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00:04:22.000 Hello, everybody.

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00:04:29.000 Hi, it's Suleiman Ahmed.

00:04:30.000 I'm an independent journalist on X. You can find me on X and on YouTube.

00:04:34.000 On YouTube, I'm Suleiman Ahmed X. Alex Stein is Marty McFly, and I am Doc Brown.

00:04:40.000 So when we get together, dude, the show goes off the rails.

00:04:43.000 Are you ready to?

00:04:44.000 I just want to talk about conspiracy theories.

00:04:47.000 By the way, I'm at Ian Crosswoods where you can follow me, dude, Alex.

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00:05:05.000 All right, with that being said, guys, we have Suleiman on here, and he said something very interesting before we started the show: he's kind of libtarded and that he disagrees with what ICE is doing currently in America. 0.76

00:05:16.000 So I think this would be a great time and great place to start.

00:05:19.000 With personally, people are mad at Donald Trump because he's not doing enough when it comes to protecting ICE in Minneapolis.

00:05:26.000 Me, I'm kind of of the opinion.

00:05:27.000 It's like, you know, I don't love people getting shot in the face, but I don't love women driving over people either. 1.00

00:05:34.000 So I guess my point is, Suleiman, what do you think about Donald Trump and his support or not support of ICE?

00:05:43.000 Yeah, I think the way the entire situation has been handled has been extremely incompetent and extremely bad.

00:05:48.000 So there's two ways of dealing with this issue.

00:05:50.000 Either you just leave it or you deal with it in a very systemized, harsh manner.

00:05:56.000 And what harshness means is not shooting someone in the face, right?

00:05:59.000 So just think about it when you deal with a kid.

00:06:02.000 You can either, so my children, like they, like, I've never had to hit them because they know what the rules are, they understand what it is, and then they know they won't break the boundaries.

00:06:10.000 But when you basically deal with the issue that you did, where you're basically sending ICE agents in and you're basically doing it based on some kind of propaganda that Nick Shirley's put out or whatever it may be, it's just going to foment the situation and make it a lot worse.

00:06:21.000 So therefore, you have to either go in harshly or light.

00:06:24.000 In addition to that, what happened was with the ICE situation of shooting Renee Good, again, I think it was done intentionally in order to foment these riots and ferment hatred by both sides because a very easy way to de-escalate the situation was you wouldn't have JD Vance coming out and fighting with a lawyer on X. You would just be, look, we need to work out what's happened.

00:06:44.000 We're going to investigate the situation.

00:06:45.000 There'll be an independent inquiry and I think everyone will be happy with it.

00:06:48.000 What's happened is what it seems to suggest is that what's happening is the people in charge, whether it's the Vice President of the United States of America or DHS or whoever are trying to hide or take cover for the ICE officer and therefore people are like seeing this as a state-sanctioned hit.

00:07:04.000 What did the ICE agent do wrong? 0.97

00:07:07.000 Shoot her. 1.00

00:07:08.000 Well, why did he shoot four times? 1.00

00:07:11.000 I can kind of understand.

00:07:12.000 No, it's actually now it came out.

00:07:14.000 Now they said there's four shots.

00:07:14.000 Look it up there.

00:07:15.000 I only saw three two.

00:07:16.000 I only saw three.

00:07:17.000 I only saw three.

00:07:17.000 Supposedly, I just read today that there was actually four shots.

00:07:20.000 But I guess, you know, was one shot not enough, Tate?

00:07:22.000 No, it doesn't.

00:07:23.000 Well, when you're dealing with the use of force issue, it doesn't matter.

00:07:25.000 Like the number of times that he shoots is totally irrelevant.

00:07:29.000 Like it's not a situation.

00:07:30.000 That's not true.

00:07:32.000 When a cop shoots somebody, they actually have to put a specific report for actually each bullet when it's shoot.

00:07:38.000 Yeah, but when it's in this, when it's in that span of time, it's considered the same use of force.

00:07:42.000 Yeah, all three shots were dispatched in like a single second.

00:07:45.000 Yeah, but I'm saying typically in law enforcement, they have to do reports for each separate shot.

00:07:49.000 But from different terms, but still part of it.

00:07:51.000 It doesn't matter because it's a use of defensive force, right?

00:07:54.000 The police officer is moving across the front of the car.

00:07:57.000 There's a lot of people that make us think about him being in the car.

00:07:59.000 He was walking around the car.

00:08:00.000 He wasn't posted up in front of the car.

00:08:02.000 He was moving across the car.

00:08:04.000 As soon as she accelerated, wherever the wheels were pointed, it doesn't matter. 0.98

00:08:08.000 As soon as she accelerated, he is in a position where he's like, I have to be, I'm in defense of my life, and he's authorized to use defensive force.

00:08:16.000 That's the long and short.

00:08:17.000 I mean, I think one shot maybe was justified, but at the same exact time, you saw Donald Trump say that the guy was in the hospital.

00:08:23.000 Did you see that?

00:08:24.000 He got hit.

00:08:25.000 Yeah, well, they bring him to the hospital because he was actually hit by the car.

00:08:28.000 And he's alleged to have had, at least a government official said that he's had an internal bleeding.

00:08:34.000 According to that, so that's according to CBS.

00:08:36.000 Okay, so if you don't want to believe the stuff that the government says, that's fine, right?

00:08:40.000 But we can only go by with the information that we're going to be talking about.

00:08:43.000 But we have to look at who the reporting is from.

00:08:44.000 So the reporting's from CBS, Barry Weiss.

00:08:46.000 That's an important point to note.

00:08:48.000 In addition to that, you basically got another issue, which is when you look at what happened, look, his life wasn't threatened.

00:08:54.000 The car was at a standstill.

00:08:55.000 No, it doesn't matter.

00:08:56.000 But his life wasn't threatened.

00:08:57.000 And the first shot.

00:08:58.000 Yes, it was.

00:08:59.000 The car was moving towards him.

00:09:00.000 The car is a deadly weapon.

00:09:05.000 Two miles an hour is not yet.

00:09:06.000 So the argument that you're making would be the same argument if you said, well, the gun, the perpetrator had a gun, but he wasn't pointing it at the officer.

00:09:14.000 Police don't have to wait until you're pointing at a gun at them or you're shooting at them.

00:09:19.000 As soon as the person's in the car refuses to get out and hits the accelerator, as soon as the car starts moving towards him, he doesn't have to be like, oh, I know what the car is going to do to defend his guy.

00:09:27.000 So there's two points.

00:09:28.000 One thing is her wheel was completely turned up.

00:09:30.000 Doesn't matter.

00:09:31.000 Doesn't matter.

00:09:31.000 We already talked about that.

00:09:32.000 The second thing is he's going at two miles an hour.

00:09:34.000 And why that's important?

00:09:34.000 Doesn't matter.

00:09:35.000 Why that's important is because, for example, I just saw a video yesterday.

00:09:38.000 Like, Neo-Nick Sortor, me and him came up together on X.

00:09:41.000 But that being said, so like I like him.

00:09:42.000 But that being said, there's a video of him literally going faster than that.

00:09:45.000 Does that mean all their lives are in danger?

00:09:47.000 They could have just murdered him.

00:09:48.000 It's craziness. 0.94

00:09:48.000 It doesn't matter. 0.94

00:09:49.000 It's two miles an hour.

00:09:50.000 There was no police officer.

00:09:51.000 No, but his life in danger.

00:09:52.000 Your argument is his life was in danger.

00:09:53.000 No, no.

00:09:54.000 What about it?

00:09:55.000 If there is someone in front of the car, if Nick Shirley's driving down the street, he's not endangering people on the street.

00:10:00.000 Nick Sorting.

00:10:01.000 No, no, no, there was people in front of him.

00:10:02.000 No, so my question to you is this.

00:10:03.000 But that's not even a problem.

00:10:04.000 That's also not a police officer.

00:10:05.000 That's not an officer.

00:10:06.000 I'm just pointing out it's a false equipment.

00:10:07.000 We're talking about two different people.

00:10:08.000 Okay, let me ask you a question.

00:10:09.000 So if for because you said the cop's life was in danger, if there's a civilian and his one question on the corner, if there's a civilian whose life's in danger, are you allowed to shoot the person?

00:10:23.000 Yes.

00:10:23.000 In defense.

00:10:24.000 Depending on your argument.

00:10:26.000 So based on your argument, when Nick Sawter was driving his car, any of those left-wing people could have shot him.

00:10:31.000 No, because those people were not conducting law enforcement operations.

00:10:34.000 No, but your argument isn't whether it's law enforcement.

00:10:36.000 Your argument is whether it's self-defense.

00:10:37.000 Whether your life's in danger.

00:10:39.000 No, and I want to make this point as a graduate of the Dallas Citizens Police Academy.

00:10:42.000 And this is true.

00:10:43.000 You can look it up.

00:10:44.000 But in law enforcement training, one of the main things that they teach them is to use your strength.

00:10:49.000 That is one of the most important things that when you're in a high-tense situation, you do not overreact.

00:10:54.000 Literally, that is part of the training.

00:10:56.000 If I'm just looking at it, I would assess that he overreacted a little bit.

00:11:01.000 I mean, I know he got hit by a car, but it looked like he was still on his feet.

00:11:05.000 If he would have got knocked off his feet, then I could have been like, oh man, he really was worried.

00:11:08.000 But he was never off his two feet.

00:11:10.000 As a matter of fact, I'm saying he had enough of a stable ground. 0.74

00:11:14.000 He shot her right in the head. 1.00

00:11:16.000 And then when she died, he's saying, fucking bitch. 1.00

00:11:19.000 He didn't know that she was dead then, first of all. 1.00

00:11:20.000 Second of all, he just got hit by a car.

00:11:22.000 Why not let them get aid?

00:11:23.000 I know, but when a doctor came out.

00:11:24.000 He didn't prevent her from getting aid.

00:11:25.000 That was other police.

00:11:26.000 That was other police officers.

00:11:28.000 I know.

00:11:28.000 Well, if somebody gets shot and you prevent them from getting aid, your job is to protect himself.

00:11:32.000 Okay, so no, what they were doing is they were protecting the crime scene because the police and fire authorities were there.

00:11:39.000 The police had their own EMTs and they were on their way down there.

00:11:42.000 The people that are on the side of the road that are saying, I'm a doctor, you don't know that person.

00:11:46.000 You don't know what they are.

00:11:46.000 You don't know what they're doing.

00:11:47.000 So what you're saying is they should have allowed a bystander to go in contaminated crime scene.

00:11:52.000 You're not going to do that.

00:11:53.000 The police will never do that.

00:11:56.000 Contaminated a crime scene.

00:11:57.000 I mean, somebody's dying in a car.

00:11:58.000 I think that you would try to do anything to save their life.

00:12:00.000 But the point is, there were already EMTs on the way down the street, right?

00:12:04.000 There were already EMTs on the scene.

00:12:06.000 They would have the EMTs from the police department go down there and say, hey, look, we're going to take care of it because if you let someone else go down there, you actually contaminate crime.

00:12:13.000 And whether or not, whether or not that is something that we like, that is policy with police departments nationwide.

00:12:19.000 How far would the EMTs?

00:12:20.000 Because none of us saw them.

00:12:21.000 I don't know.

00:12:22.000 I never saw them either.

00:12:24.000 That doesn't change the fact that the police will have state officials go to render aid as opposed to bystanders.

00:12:31.000 Well, Philip.

00:12:31.000 Because you don't know.

00:12:33.000 If a bystander says, oh, I'm going to go down there and I'm going to help.

00:12:36.000 You don't know that guy's an actual EMT.

00:12:37.000 You have no idea who this random person is.

00:12:38.000 What about during the next pandemic?

00:12:40.000 They say that you can't go to go play in your band because you're not vaccinated.

00:12:46.000 And then an ICE agent tries to prevent you from doing whatever you legally feel like you could do.

00:12:51.000 And then they shot you.

00:12:52.000 Because this is the problem is that we say that in this instant, because she's a libtard, oh, we can celebrate it. 1.00

00:12:57.000 It's not a big deal.

00:12:58.000 But very easily, this could be turned against us that are either anti-vax or anti-government.

00:13:04.000 So if you can't see that.

00:13:05.000 I'm not coming from this.

00:13:07.000 I'm not coming from this from a political perspective because I'm a gun guy.

00:13:10.000 I have a gun on me right now.

00:13:12.000 Okay.

00:13:12.000 I carry a gun.

00:13:13.000 I've gone to multiple gun classes.

00:13:14.000 And the things that you go over in the classes generally are the legalities of what happens if you get into a self-defense situation.

00:13:21.000 And I'm telling you the policies of the police station or the police department, or actually the feds in this case, but because that is what they're going to go by.

00:13:30.000 We can pick it apart and say, well, he should have this or that person should have that or look at where her wheels were pointing, blah, blah, blah.

00:13:35.000 None of that stuff actually matters when it comes to what the feds are going to say.

00:13:40.000 That's why he hasn't been charged.

00:13:41.000 He hasn't been charged.

00:13:42.000 And this is one of the things that I said day one.

00:13:44.000 I was like, he's not.

00:13:45.000 He's not charged.

00:13:47.000 But when he's not charged, that doesn't provide proof because the claim from the left is the reason he's not being charged because this was state supported.

00:13:55.000 So it doesn't matter what they claim from the left is because they're going to claim.

00:13:57.000 They're going to claim that it was the fact that the government did everything wrong in the future.

00:14:00.000 But if it was the other way around, you guys would.

00:14:01.000 If Leslie Biden was in charge, you got to be like, oh, Biden basically is allowing the murder of Republicans.

00:14:07.000 You can say you guys, because I wasn't one of the guys out there screaming about it.

00:14:11.000 And the second point is, when you look at what he did, he shoots, then allegedly the car hits him, and then he shoots maybe two or three times more.

00:14:20.000 Three times a total.

00:14:21.000 Okay, so two times more.

00:14:23.000 So it means, like, for example, his hit clearly wasn't bad enough that he still managed to shoot through the side mirror two more times.

00:14:30.000 Yeah, I want to know about that.

00:14:31.000 If he's got to explain every bullet, I heard pop, pop, pop, pop, is what I heard.

00:14:35.000 He shot her once.

00:14:36.000 She drove and started to drive away, and then he fired three more at her while she was driving away. 0.92

00:14:40.000 Is that to protect so she didn't pull out a gun and turn around and shoot at him?

00:14:43.000 Is that why he finished?

00:14:44.000 No, it was all within a second.

00:14:45.000 Like, we're expecting superhuman level.

00:14:47.000 Like, the entire argument is, like, look, we're not expecting perfection.

00:14:51.000 Like, of course, every time there's going to be a police-involved shooting, it's not going to be like this beautiful, perfect incident.

00:14:55.000 Like, these things are messy.

00:14:57.000 The reality is when you accelerate towards a police officer, you need to understand that they do have the right to return fire because you're using your, you're using your vehicle as a deadly weapon.

00:15:05.000 If a cop thinks you're coming at him and they shoot you, and then you turn and run away, and they shoot you three more times while you're running away, is that murder?

00:15:14.000 It all depends on what the situation is.

00:15:15.000 If it was like five seconds gone by, there could be a conversation.

00:15:17.000 Again, we're talking about like in the space of a second, this is all going on.

00:15:20.000 To your exact point, if the police, if the police believe that you are going, so if you're running away with a gun, right?

00:15:26.000 They'll finish you off because they think you could choose a gun.

00:15:28.000 No, Hold on, let me finish.

00:15:29.000 If you're running away with a gun, the police can shoot you in the back because there is a reasonable fear that you are going to cause harm to someone else.

00:15:36.000 And that car is a 2,000-pound bullet.

00:15:39.000 Hold on, let me finish.

00:15:40.000 If you don't have a gun, then the police cannot shoot you in the back if you're running away.

00:15:44.000 If you have a gun, because the situation is, is there a reasonable fear that you're going to harm someone else after the engagement?

00:15:51.000 So is someone driving the car away reasonable?

00:15:54.000 A reasonable fee was going to even be able to do that.

00:15:57.000 That's why the police shooting with that.

00:15:59.000 The context I'm talking about with Ian is different from the one that we're talking about.

00:16:02.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:16:03.000 With the car, he didn't see the gun.

00:16:06.000 Wait, hold on, let me finish this.

00:16:07.000 She didn't see, the cop didn't see a gun.

00:16:09.000 He had no reason to think that a car driving away from him was going to cause immediate threat to anybody.

00:16:14.000 So why did he fire those extra three-shots? 0.99

00:16:17.000 He already had decided he's going to kill her.

00:16:18.000 A car that's being pursued by the police, that's why they have pit maneuvers.

00:16:22.000 Because, again, a car on the loose, you know, being pursued by police, that is going to be considered a threat against the public.

00:16:27.000 And that's why the police have the authority to conduct pit maneuvers. 0.58

00:16:30.000 So if you're going to say, well, he has zero right whatsoever, again, this is all in the space of a second.

00:16:35.000 So I think this is a moot point anyway.

00:16:37.000 But even in that instance, then you have to be against like pit maneuvers.

00:16:39.000 I mean, these are things that the police do.

00:16:42.000 You're shooting the driver in the head.

00:16:43.000 That's different.

00:16:44.000 It's still like, there's still a threat of way to definitely get them.

00:16:48.000 Pit maneuver is absolutely lethal.

00:16:50.000 It is intended to be non-lethal.

00:16:51.000 You're supposed to run their car off the road and arrest them with a pit maneuver. 1.00

00:16:54.000 If you want to kill him, you could kill him. 0.97

00:16:55.000 The pit maneuvers are done at like 60 miles per hour. 1.00

00:16:57.000 Yeah, the police are making the calculations to probably kill them or severely incapacitate.

00:17:02.000 The purpose of the tape is to your point.

00:17:04.000 They actually make it in some states, it's not, you're actually not, cops are not even legally allowed to chase people on motorcycles because they don't want the person to die on the motorcycle.

00:17:12.000 So you got somebody, a serious felony crime, but they're on a motorcycle and they don't want to chase him so that person dies.

00:17:12.000 Yeah, I know.

00:17:17.000 So why do they try to respect his life in that situation, but we don't respect Renee's good life?

00:17:21.000 Well, it's more about the point of these operations are about incapacitation.

00:17:24.000 So you're trying to incapacitate the criminal in whatever manner that's going to be. 0.86

00:17:27.000 Well, kill, though, right? 0.93

00:17:28.000 You're supposed to do it in a non-lethal way. 0.95

00:17:30.000 No, you need to do whatever you can do to incapacitate the criminal, whether that's death, whether it's not.

00:17:33.000 That's besides the point.

00:17:34.000 The point is.

00:17:35.000 Well, wouldn't you say that they should err on the side of non-lethal?

00:17:38.000 No, because this is the shoot him-in-the-leg argument that you're making.

00:17:40.000 You can't, when you're using a gun in a defensive situation, you shoot to stop the threat.

00:17:47.000 You don't shoot to.

00:17:48.000 Well, then why didn't you shoot your tire out? 0.99

00:17:50.000 Well, why didn't you shoot him in the leg? 0.55

00:17:51.000 I mean, that would have ramboated probabilities of the point is that is well, when you choose to be a cop, and I know you're not going to be able to do that. 0.86

00:17:56.000 No police officer.

00:17:58.000 But I don't think anybody's asking him to be superhuman.

00:18:00.000 I just think that if you just look at it, and I get it, everybody can watch the same clip and have a different interpretation of it.

00:18:06.000 It's like if you're standing across the room from somebody and I draw a six, it's going to look like a nine to somebody else.

00:18:10.000 So people can look at the same exact thing and have a totally different interpretation of it.

00:18:13.000 But when it comes down to it, Tim Dylan did say it best.

00:18:16.000 This is an ICE agent.

00:18:17.000 This guy's like basically a fake cop.

00:18:19.000 You know what I mean?

00:18:20.000 He probably signed on for the $50,000 bonus.

00:18:22.000 I don't know how much time he spent.

00:18:24.000 How much time did he spend in this?

00:18:25.000 He deployed to Iraq.

00:18:27.000 Even yours.

00:18:28.000 So you got a guy with PTSD.

00:18:31.000 No, no, no.

00:18:33.000 You're just giving him PTSD.

00:18:34.000 No, no, no, no.

00:18:35.000 He's been a kid.

00:18:36.000 No, that's not.

00:18:36.000 Have you ever seen that?

00:18:39.000 It is not true that everybody's.

00:18:40.000 To answer my question, if you're not going to be able to do that, Caleb Hammer's not going to be able to do that.

00:18:43.000 What happens whenever he has a military vet on?

00:18:45.000 What do they say?

00:18:47.000 They're on disability. 0.98

00:18:48.000 Every veteran is on disability. 0.83

00:18:50.000 You can look it up.

00:18:51.000 Over 90% of veterans are not going to be able to do it.

00:18:53.000 If you've been to a disability, so he has PTSD.

00:18:56.000 No, I'm not saying that.

00:18:57.000 I'm making it fun of you.

00:18:58.000 No, I can't.

00:19:00.000 Look it up.

00:19:00.000 I'm just saying.

00:19:01.000 The majority of people that go serve in the military, they get disability for the rest of their life.

00:19:05.000 Because they say that they were near a bomb and they have PTSD.

00:19:05.000 Why do they say that?

00:19:08.000 So we're giving a guy a gun that probably was shot at, that probably does have some damage.

00:19:08.000 So that's even worse.

00:19:13.000 And so now he's shot at the same time.

00:19:14.000 He's totally fabrication.

00:19:16.000 And really, it's something that's not a problem.

00:19:16.000 It's a total fabrication.

00:19:18.000 Totally fabrication.

00:19:19.000 He had additional PTSD because six months earlier, what he did was there was a criminal whose window he smashed into.

00:19:26.000 He smashed into the guy's window and then the guy drove off and dragged him around the street and he had a lot of injuries.

00:19:31.000 So he already added PTSD from that as well.

00:19:33.000 And I think that's why he acted in a kind of injury.

00:19:35.000 So you're thinking this ICE agent is scared of a car driving at him because he's a drug.

00:19:39.000 Yeah, it's like two miles an hour right now.

00:19:40.000 Everybody's got a scared of a car driver.

00:19:43.000 Does he have PTSD and he was afraid or was it not?

00:19:46.000 So he had PTSD.

00:19:46.000 Which one is it?

00:19:47.000 He shouldn't have been that.

00:19:48.000 It was irrational to be fearful of a two-mile an hour.

00:19:50.000 So you're saying, this reminds me of that time I got hit by a car.

00:19:53.000 You just admitted that he's not a two-year-old.

00:19:56.000 I would not be afraid of the city.

00:19:59.000 You should be in two trains.

00:20:01.000 Run right on the train.

00:20:03.000 How about answer this question?

00:20:04.000 If he was just totally justified, why didn't other ICE agents shoot at the car?

00:20:08.000 Because he was the one that was in the car.

00:20:09.000 There was no other way to get there.

00:20:11.000 He wasn't in front of the car.

00:20:12.000 Oh, so he's not allowed to mitigate the threat?

00:20:13.000 So the other cop's not allowed to mitigate the guy.

00:20:15.000 Because the whole argument is based on that.

00:20:17.000 Oh, so you're telling me another cop couldn't protect another cop?

00:20:19.000 Is that what you're saying?

00:20:20.000 That's illegal.

00:20:21.000 I'm making the argument of the city. 1.00

00:20:22.000 No, you're retarded. 1.00

00:20:23.000 No, what I'm saying is if you're a cop, you're supposed to enforce the law. 1.00

00:20:26.000 So if you see another cop potentially getting hit by a car, you pull out your gun and you can shoot him.

00:20:30.000 And he would be just as justified as the person that's getting hit by the car because he's a law enforcement agent.

00:20:33.000 So if you're going to tell me that a cop can't prevent somebody, another cop from dying, you're wrong.

00:20:38.000 That doesn't make the guy that's in front of the car.

00:20:41.000 That doesn't mean that he's not allowed to use force.

00:20:43.000 I know, but I'm saying, why didn't the other guy start shooting as well?

00:20:46.000 I don't know, but just because the other guy didn't start shooting doesn't mean that the guy that's actually in front of the car doesn't have the right to use force.

00:20:54.000 You know, Suluman, you said that the car is going to two miles an hour.

00:20:57.000 I think it's important to realize the car was accelerating at the guy.

00:21:01.000 So he didn't know how fast it was going to hit him at, and it was a couple of thousand pounds. 0.99

00:21:04.000 And it's like if you flag a cop with your gun, you pull out a gun and you wave it past him, he's going to shoot and kill you. 0.98

00:21:11.000 It doesn't matter. 0.96

00:21:11.000 That's accelerating a car towards a cop is flagging them with a gun. 0.96

00:21:15.000 But Ian, he wasn't accelerating towards her first time.

00:21:18.000 He fell down, though.

00:21:19.000 He was in front of the car.

00:21:21.000 I know, but the car went so slow, it didn't even knock him off his feet.

00:21:24.000 I wasn't referring to you.

00:21:25.000 I was referring to the colours.

00:21:26.000 I'm just saying, he didn't even fall on the ground.

00:21:28.000 And when you flag a cop, you didn't even shoot him with a bullet.

00:21:30.000 You didn't even intend to.

00:21:31.000 No, but you got a gun.

00:21:33.000 This one, she was just driving off.

00:21:34.000 And he actually came from the unside because he came from the right. 0.96

00:21:37.000 So it's highly likely she didn't even see him.

00:21:39.000 That means she shoots right at him in the video. 0.85

00:21:41.000 If you look at the shots.

00:21:42.000 Sorry, she was dead.

00:21:42.000 Oh, yeah.

00:21:44.000 And then when the first shot was fired, his tires were not going to be awesome.

00:21:46.000 No, no, Yeah, you're right.

00:21:47.000 She didn't see her again.

00:21:48.000 But she turned the sorry, I meant she turned the wheel.

00:21:50.000 She was turning the wheel as the shot, but when the shot was. 0.99

00:21:52.000 No, she turned the fest. 0.99

00:21:53.000 She turned the fastest.

00:21:54.000 When the first shot was fired, you can look in the video.

00:21:55.000 The tires are pointed directly forward.

00:21:57.000 The cop doesn't see the wheels.

00:21:58.000 The cop is looking at her.

00:22:00.000 What happens is skids, and then basically she turns it to the right, but the wheel she's turning right from the beginning, top of the wheel, not the actual wheel, but the actual shot.

00:22:06.000 Getting into the granular things like where the wheels are pointed doesn't matter.

00:22:10.000 He was in front of the car and he felt like she was going to hit him because the car was coming at him.

00:22:16.000 That is what justifies a use of force.

00:22:19.000 Like all of the other stuff, like all this, like, you know, why didn't this guy do this and what happened?

00:22:24.000 For two miles an hour.

00:22:25.000 And what you're saying is, I'm going to say it again.

00:22:28.000 He felt like he was in danger.

00:22:31.000 And so he used force.

00:22:33.000 That's how the law is written.

00:22:35.000 And based on what you're saying, right?

00:22:37.000 Because we have just already had this conversation.

00:22:39.000 If a normal civilian feels like they're in danger, he accepted you can also shoot.

00:22:45.000 You're saying in Minnesota now, people like Nick Soto, when they're using their car in the same manner, they all could be shot.

00:22:49.000 Only a human could be shot.

00:22:50.000 In a use of force, listen, no, in a use of force situation, the person that is defending themselves does make the decision as to if they believe they are in threat of death or serious bodily injury.

00:23:04.000 Just because there's a difference between a mob surrounding a car and chucking stuff out at trying to reach to the windows, break the windows.

00:23:08.000 There's a difference between that and an actual law enforcement operation.

00:23:12.000 But two completely different situations.

00:23:13.000 No, no, but the situation is different, but the similarity of the same thing is where you believe that your life is in danger.

00:23:19.000 That's the point I'm holding in.

00:23:20.000 Right, if you're standing in front of a car and Nick Sortor stomps in the accelerator, then yes, you shoot him.

00:23:25.000 But if you're with a mob attacking his car and then he accelerates, that's not a self-defense situation.

00:23:30.000 If there's more than two people you engaged in it, so if there's more than one, but the police engage as well, but if there's more than one person in front of the car, then it's no longer your life's in threat.

00:23:39.000 No, if you're in a mob attacking a car.

00:23:40.000 Let me ask you this question.

00:23:41.000 Was Ashley Babbitt, was her death, was it justified?

00:23:46.000 So I don't, this is Phil.

00:23:47.000 I don't know the intricate question.

00:23:48.000 I don't know the intricacies.

00:23:49.000 It's a very good question, but she's asking me.

00:23:49.000 It's a very good question.

00:23:52.000 No, he should actually not aim.

00:23:56.000 This is my problem.

00:23:57.000 This is my problem.

00:23:58.000 I can't see. 0.58

00:24:00.000 You're not smart enough to realize that what's happening with ICE can be done to you.

00:24:03.000 It can happen to you. 0.99

00:24:04.000 It doesn't matter if you're a libtard. 1.00

00:24:05.000 It doesn't matter if you're conservative.

00:24:07.000 The government can do something wrong to you.

00:24:09.000 So the government's not perfect.

00:24:10.000 That ICE age is not perfect.

00:24:11.000 And we should be held to a higher standard as a law enforcement.

00:24:15.000 Okay, but was Ashley Babbitt justified to be murdered?

00:24:17.000 So she was going into a place that she shouldn't be.

00:24:19.000 The cop was actually justified in shooting. 1.00

00:24:21.000 Okay, you're a piece of shit. 1.00

00:24:22.000 I mean, there you go. 1.00

00:24:22.000 I'm just saying. 1.00

00:24:23.000 But this is not a good idea.

00:24:24.000 I'll give him credit.

00:24:25.000 No, I'll give him credit.

00:24:26.000 I'll give you credit.

00:24:26.000 He's consistent and consistent.

00:24:26.000 I'll give you a good idea.

00:24:29.000 I don't think Ashley's sheared and dead.

00:24:30.000 I think Ashley should be a little bit of a bad. 1.00

00:24:32.000 I heard Ashley Babbitt, but I'll kill that bitch. 1.00

00:24:36.000 Just shoot another one. 1.00

00:24:36.000 Kill that bitch. 1.00

00:24:37.000 Or like pull the cars off for a second. 1.00

00:24:42.000 Okay, do the dance and yell. 1.00

00:24:44.000 She's shooting white women. 1.00

00:24:45.000 Well, listen, the point is, you asked me, was the cop justified? 0.96

00:24:49.000 And by the standard of the law, yes.

00:24:52.000 Do I think that she should have been?

00:24:57.000 No.

00:24:58.000 But yes, by the legal standard, Ashley Babbitt, it was a justified shooting.

00:25:02.000 She didn't have a weapon.

00:25:04.000 She wasn't doing something aggressively, so I don't think he should have, but it was justified, just like in the situation with law enforcement in Minneapolis, they were justified.

00:25:15.000 I'm telling you by the law, I think that the cop was right.

00:25:19.000 So this is my opinion, was right to shoot the woman in the car, but I don't think the cop was right to shoot Ashley Babbitt because he just said you didn't know.

00:25:28.000 No, no, let me finish.

00:25:29.000 I said, by the law, not my opinion.

00:25:32.000 I told you.

00:25:32.000 So they're both legally justified.

00:25:34.000 They're both legally justified.

00:25:35.000 My opinion is different.

00:25:36.000 I think that Ashley Babbitt was different because Ashley Babbitt, he couldn't see if she had any weapons on her and she did not.

00:25:43.000 Okay.

00:25:43.000 So the car is all wet.

00:25:46.000 But in Jan 6, there was people who were aggressive.

00:25:49.000 Remember, they were on walkie-talkies.

00:25:50.000 For example, one guy who I had a debate with, Jake Lang, literally had a baseball bat and he was smashing people.

00:25:55.000 By that standard.

00:25:56.000 So that means, would you think if I would say he's probably got more of a chance of believing from these guys?

00:26:00.000 By that standard.

00:26:01.000 No, we're going to be taking it.

00:26:02.000 No, by that standard, it would be justified.

00:26:04.000 If that was actually your standard, and I'm not saying that this is the standard that we should go or by that standard, it would be justified to all the people down with a machine gun that were in the hallway.

00:26:13.000 And no, no, that's not.

00:26:16.000 Because, again, Ashley Babbitt was trying to go through the window. 0.93

00:26:20.000 She put her head through.

00:26:21.000 Now, she may not have been trying to climb through or whatever. 0.61

00:26:23.000 Maybe she was. 0.97

00:26:24.000 But she put her head through the window into a secured area. 0.82

00:26:24.000 She was climbing through. 0.82

00:26:27.000 That's why legally, not my opinion, legally, it was.

00:26:31.000 How was the window smashed?

00:26:32.000 I don't know.

00:26:34.000 The window smashed then.

00:26:34.000 You're thinking window smashed up.

00:26:36.000 Someone comes through.

00:26:37.000 Like, I'm saying, if you be consistent, which you are, you're basically legally they were justified, but I don't say the kind of opinion.

00:26:43.000 I don't see the disconnect.

00:26:44.000 My opinion is because you couldn't see if she had a weapon in her hand.

00:26:48.000 And so, but then that's according to your opinion of the first one.

00:26:51.000 That would be good enough to be a threat.

00:26:52.000 That you don't know, like, the mob's attacking her.

00:26:54.000 No, windows.

00:26:56.000 She might have a weapon on her. 0.91

00:26:56.000 She comes through. 0.91

00:26:58.000 No, no, because if you can't see that she has a weapon, the one in Minnesota, the car is the weapon.

00:27:03.000 So she obviously has a weapon.

00:27:05.000 She's behind the wheel of a car.

00:27:06.000 She's in control of the weapon. 0.99

00:27:08.000 The one when it comes to Ashley Babbitt, she's only putting her head through and he shoots her in the neck.

00:27:13.000 So you can't see if she has anything in her hands or if she has a weapon.

00:27:17.000 So that's the difference.

00:27:18.000 So your position is if a mob is attacking you or one person from a mob attacks you, then you can only shoot if you see a weapon.

00:27:26.000 If they're attacking you, you can shoot to defend yourself, but they're attacking you.

00:27:31.000 That's the difference.

00:27:32.000 Well, that's what the police thought, didn't he?

00:27:34.000 That's why he shot.

00:27:36.000 There was standoff distance.

00:27:37.000 He didn't know that she was attacking him.

00:27:38.000 Anyways, I don't want to sit there and pick apart the Ashley Babbitt thing.

00:27:42.000 That's like this is a very important thing.

00:27:42.000 That's pointless.

00:27:43.000 I think I'm justified in not having a position because it happened like four years ago.

00:27:47.000 And then we're comparing it to something that happened last year.

00:27:48.000 You have opinions on stuff that is much older than four years.

00:27:51.000 I know, but this is a specific shooting from four years.

00:27:53.000 I was like a freshman in college.

00:27:54.000 I don't, I wasn't there.

00:27:55.000 I'm sure if I was a political activist.

00:27:57.000 None of us were there.

00:27:58.000 I'm sure if I was politically active at the time, I would have like a hot take on it.

00:28:01.000 But you just didn't have an opinion on it because you're young when that happened.

00:28:05.000 I'm just thinking, I mean, if he had legal activity, do you have an opinion on the Holocaust?

00:28:09.000 Yeah, I do.

00:28:09.000 I have some very good idea.

00:28:10.000 I was just saying, you weren't alive there, and you got some hot takes on there.

00:28:13.000 So, I mean, it's just like, well, let's not act naivete because you want to try to, oh, you have to pretend to be MAGA or else you're going to get in trouble.

00:28:19.000 It's like, you can actually just say how you feel.

00:28:21.000 You don't have to worry about it.

00:28:23.000 I legitimately don't know anything about the Ashley Babbitt case.

00:28:26.000 So you have no opinion whatsoever?

00:28:28.000 I mean, I kind of take Phil's position.

00:28:30.000 If he had a legal use of force, then he had legal use of force.

00:28:33.000 I mean, what are you going to do about it?

00:28:34.000 I guess what it comes down to is I'm just worried the government overstepping how much power they have.

00:28:38.000 I get that.

00:28:39.000 Well, I literally get that.

00:28:40.000 If that's what you're worried about, I have good news for you.

00:28:43.000 They're gonna, and they've got all the guns.

00:28:47.000 I know.

00:28:48.000 That's why the Second Amendment is so important.

00:28:49.000 But I just, you know, I guess when it comes to this incident, I do think that he was probably justified in shooting one time.

00:28:55.000 Then he shot four times. 1.00

00:28:56.000 And then after, and he calls her a fucking bitch. 1.00

00:28:57.000 I thought that's a little unnecessary. 1.00

00:28:59.000 It shows that he was actually very angry.

00:29:01.000 And you guys say he got hit by this dangerous car.

00:29:03.000 He never even fell on the ground.

00:29:04.000 So people getting punched in the face get hit harder.

00:29:07.000 You can see his feet skid back because it's on ice.

00:29:09.000 Yeah, but he didn't even lose his balance.

00:29:10.000 He never lost his balance.

00:29:11.000 So he got hit so hard that it didn't even knock him off.

00:29:14.000 There's this like a very, like, almost the exact same situation happened in Baltimore like three months ago when the lady got completely crushed by the wheel.

00:29:20.000 But I'm saying he didn't.

00:29:21.000 I know, but that might have heard, but he did not.

00:29:24.000 Because he didn't know if he was going to have to. 0.96

00:29:25.000 He barely got dinked and then was able to scoot around, get in a shooting stance and blow the girl's brains out between her eyes. 1.00

00:29:32.000 He did with like one hand and his feet were standing. 0.84

00:29:34.000 And he was holding a cell phone at the same time.

00:29:35.000 So he was, listen, he had a cell phone in one hand, a gun in the other.

00:29:39.000 He's getting hit by a car that's going so fast that he didn't get knocked off.

00:29:41.000 Is he supposed to hit a tire then?

00:29:43.000 No, I'm saying he probably shouldn't have shot.

00:29:46.000 He probably shouldn't have hit his gun.

00:29:47.000 He's got a guy sent to school.

00:29:50.000 We're expecting like James Bond levels of management.

00:29:53.000 He's just running interference for the future.

00:29:55.000 No, I'm not trying to run intersections.

00:29:56.000 That's what you should say.

00:29:57.000 360 ladder stalls. 0.99

00:29:59.000 I'm running interference now for libtards because I don't think a guy that didn't know health on his feet shouldn't have blown some lesbian's head off. 1.00

00:30:06.000 I mean, give me a freaking break. 0.99

00:30:07.000 Who's got three children? 0.97

00:30:08.000 I'm anti-violence.

00:30:09.000 Like, I'm not one of these people that's ever going to cheer for somebody dying.

00:30:12.000 I think dying is bad.

00:30:13.000 I think when people kill people, it's a tragedy.

00:30:15.000 It doesn't sound like it.

00:30:17.000 I've never, once I've never really disappeared, a lot of people are.

00:30:22.000 I'm not here to defend those people.

00:30:22.000 A lot of people are not going to be able to do that.

00:30:23.000 I'm just here to say we shouldn't just throw this guy in jail for self-defense.

00:30:26.000 I didn't say she got to jail.

00:30:28.000 There should be an independent inquiry.

00:30:30.000 There should be an independent FAC inquiry.

00:30:30.000 That's the thing.

00:30:33.000 I mean, they'll find the same thing.

00:30:34.000 It's literally a signal.

00:30:36.000 That's fine, but right now it looks like state-sanctioned murder.

00:30:39.000 No, it's not.

00:30:40.000 I mean, you believe that, but that's what it looks like.

00:30:43.000 I'm just worried because there's going to be another pandemic.

00:30:45.000 There's going to be another time that they lock us down where we disagree.

00:30:47.000 This is definitely going to happen.

00:30:49.000 And maybe it's not an ICE agent, but it could be a Department of Homeland Security.

00:30:52.000 It could be martial law in our own city.

00:30:54.000 And I don't want to live in a city.

00:30:55.000 I think the left, like, the way that they use force is depending on what the right used.

00:31:00.000 No, but I'm saying.

00:31:01.000 It's escalation.

00:31:02.000 It's escalation.

00:31:03.000 It's not.

00:31:04.000 Oh, actually, I actually wrote this down.

00:31:06.000 To your point earlier, and I wanted to get back to this.

00:31:08.000 You mentioned how they were carrying this out, right?

00:31:11.000 And it was because of Donald Trump and JD Vance were escalating.

00:31:15.000 That escalation is what brought it back to my mind.

00:31:17.000 Oh, that's it.

00:31:18.000 So that was one of the first things you said.

00:31:20.000 If that were the case, then why is that cities like Memphis and New Orleans, who have police forces that work with the administration, have no riots like this, right?

00:31:30.000 So the police force doesn't inhibit the federal government from doing its job.

00:31:35.000 They don't have the mayor and the governor getting out saying, we need to be out there and resist and blah, blah, blah.

00:31:42.000 It would be my opinion that the reason that this is happening is because the governments in the states and the cities are not helping the federal government because they're sanctuary cities.

00:31:53.000 That, I mean, that's illegal in the first place.

00:31:56.000 There is no right for a city to be a sanctuary city and to ignore federal law.

00:32:00.000 They're supposed to help.

00:32:01.000 So if your point actually held water, then Memphis and New Orleans and other cities that have had ICE go in and help and remove illegals.

00:32:13.000 Those places wouldn't have had smooth operations that you didn't hear about on the news.

00:32:17.000 So actually, what you said actually adds to the argument that this is a possibility because in reality, if you've got the mayor who's against you, you've got people in authority who's against you, you've got Waltz against you, you've basically got a standoff between the two, and then it does become a politicized situation.

00:32:30.000 Now it's just become left v right.

00:32:32.000 There's a battle.

00:32:33.000 Everyone's going out on the left and protesting.

00:32:35.000 Everyone's going on the right.

00:32:36.000 No one sees it anymore.

00:32:37.000 No one's going out on the right and protesting.

00:32:38.000 You've got reporters, you've got Nick Sartre and a few people.

00:32:41.000 So they're opinion journalists, but they're not out there protesting.

00:32:44.000 No, no, but they're escalating the situation is what I'm trying to say.

00:32:46.000 So in reality, when I say the other side, you've got ICE and reporters.

00:32:50.000 We're escalating the situation.

00:32:51.000 And so in reality, ICE is a fight between the left and right.

00:32:56.000 And the reason they want that is because of this separation.

00:32:58.000 They want people to be able to do it.

00:32:59.000 This does not have to be political.

00:33:01.000 There have been...

00:33:01.000 It's been politicized with a lot of people.

00:33:02.000 No, Listen, no, this is not.

00:33:05.000 It's not political than the vice president.

00:33:07.000 This does not have to be unpresidential.

00:33:08.000 It does not have to be political because there was a time in the United States where the entire country agreed that we didn't allow illegal aliens to just come and stay in the country. 0.51

00:33:19.000 And I agree with that, but not murdering people.

00:33:20.000 Everyone agrees about the illegalism.

00:33:22.000 No, everyone doesn't agree.

00:33:23.000 They don't agree anymore.

00:33:26.000 He said everyone here agrees with me about the American people.

00:33:27.000 But the people that are making America are not abolished ICE.

00:33:32.000 No, no, that's fine.

00:33:33.000 There are people who abolish ICE.

00:33:34.000 That's not what I'm saying.

00:33:34.000 I'm saying this issue isn't solely about immigration.

00:33:37.000 The larger issue is that they believe on the left.

00:33:39.000 I know you guys are on the right, but they believe that this is state-sanctioned murder.

00:33:43.000 So you need to get out of your kind of MAGA box and see what the other situation is.

00:33:46.000 But it doesn't matter what this is.

00:33:47.000 Because they're just going to say that no matter what.

00:33:49.000 Look, they called Donald Trump.

00:33:50.000 They weren't the president of the New York Times.

00:33:51.000 No, they were calling Donald Trump a Nazi before he did anything. 0.95

00:33:55.000 George Bush was a Nazi. 0.55

00:33:56.000 Mitt Romney, they called a Nazi. 0.96

00:33:58.000 The most vanilla conservative.

00:34:02.000 Anyone who disagrees with you is a commie on the left.

00:34:04.000 Like, everyone does it.

00:34:04.000 You're both.

00:34:05.000 Listen, deflecting from the point doesn't change.

00:34:07.000 It's not demonstrating that you do the same thing.

00:34:09.000 No, it's not.

00:34:10.000 It's not the same thing at all because the left has been, like I said, the left called Mitt Romney the most vanilla politician in America, the most inoffensive conservative there is.

00:34:21.000 They called him a Nazi when he was running.

00:34:22.000 They called John McCaze.

00:34:23.000 And you guys call him a Roger a leftist.

00:34:25.000 They called John McCain.

00:34:26.000 They called John McCain a Nazi.

00:34:28.000 And then when Donald Trump came on the scene, they were like, oh, we love John McCain.

00:34:31.000 They don't believe the things that they say.

00:34:33.000 You guys literally do the same thing.

00:34:34.000 For example, you guys call Momdani an Islamist when he believes in LGBTQ and all these kind of left and liberal war things.

00:34:40.000 I called Mamdani Brown.

00:34:40.000 Correctionality.

00:34:42.000 That's much different.

00:34:43.000 Yeah, that's you, but I don't know.

00:34:46.000 They call Mamdani a communist.

00:34:46.000 I want to make this point too.

00:34:48.000 It's pretty discouraging.

00:34:50.000 And if they call him a communist community, if someone is a member of the DSA, if someone is a member of the DSA, is it out of bounds to call them a communist?

00:34:58.000 Democratic Socialists of America.

00:35:00.000 They're not communists now.

00:35:01.000 Socialism is different to communism.

00:35:04.000 Only because the goal of socialism is communism.

00:35:07.000 No, it's not.

00:35:08.000 You couldn't.

00:35:09.000 Lenin said that.

00:35:09.000 What are you talking about?

00:35:11.000 What?

00:35:11.000 Lenin said, Vladimir Lenin said the goal of socialism is communism.

00:35:17.000 Yeah, that's what Lennon.

00:35:18.000 Lenin doesn't speak for socialism.

00:35:19.000 That was his idea.

00:35:20.000 Yeah, that was his own position.

00:35:21.000 And you've got different forms of communism as well.

00:35:23.000 But the point being, socialism is a very different structure to communism.

00:35:28.000 That's like saying that Hitler doesn't speak for Nazism.

00:35:32.000 If Hitler said something, it's okay to not say it's not. 0.89

00:35:37.000 No, it's not.

00:35:38.000 If Hitler said something, it is reasonable to say the Nazis say, right? 0.98

00:35:43.000 And if someone says, I'm a national socialist, it's reasonable to say, well, you're a Nazi.

00:35:48.000 For example, my friends, like Jackson Hinkle, a part of the ACC, the American President.

00:35:53.000 Jackson Hinkle.

00:35:54.000 That's communism.

00:35:55.000 You're socialist.

00:35:56.000 Yeah, he's a legend.

00:35:57.000 He's not a legend.

00:35:59.000 No, I like him.

00:36:01.000 No, no, no, I didn't know you were one of these guys.

00:36:03.000 Future president.

00:36:04.000 Future president.

00:36:05.000 Jackson Inkel's.

00:36:07.000 He's going to get bombed in Yemen.

00:36:10.000 If the Zayas let him in, there'll be Fuente Jackson Hinkle and a future presidential. 0.62

00:36:13.000 Jackson Inkel is being held back.

00:36:16.000 By anyway, that's a communist, American Communist Party, not like a DSA.

00:36:20.000 When we talk about communism, what do you think is going to happen in the midterm, so?

00:36:23.000 Do you think that it's going to go the Republicans away or do you think it's going to go?

00:36:25.000 I think the Democrats will probably get the edge.

00:36:28.000 I think they'll get the House and the Senate.

00:36:30.000 I think they'll get the House.

00:36:30.000 I think the Republicans will hold the Senate.

00:36:32.000 Yeah.

00:36:33.000 Just based on, because polling is actually pretty accurate, despite what a lot of people in the audience believe.

00:36:37.000 It's like, no, actually, polling overcomes vibes on the bank.

00:36:41.000 And we think it's just a guarantee that JD Vance is going to be the next president.

00:36:44.000 But what happens if we get a president of the United States?

00:36:45.000 What happens if we get president AOC?

00:36:47.000 It would be bad.

00:36:48.000 I mean, it'd be bad either way.

00:36:49.000 I don't think they're going for retribution.

00:36:51.000 I think they're going for total victory.

00:36:52.000 And so I don't think it matters what we do.

00:36:54.000 They're going to enact the same policies no matter what.

00:36:56.000 No, but I'm saying, when the people that we don't like are in power, they can use the federal government to come after us like they did during the pandemic or like they did on January 6th.

00:37:04.000 And that's, I guess, what I'm saying.

00:37:06.000 It's not that I'm against Rene Goode or for Renee Goode or against the cop or for the cop.

00:37:11.000 I can just see that this being used against us on the other side.

00:37:14.000 And I can see how they flip the script.

00:37:16.000 So that's why when we cheer this on, we're cheering on our own demise.

00:37:19.000 Well, no, they're going to use power anyway because they want to win and they want it more than we do.

00:37:23.000 No, but they'll use escalation. 0.95

00:37:25.000 They'll use escalation.

00:37:26.000 So when you guys are escalating anyway, when you guys are supporting state-sanctioned murder, they're going to be like, okay, we can do worse than that.

00:37:32.000 It doesn't matter what the left says because they're going to say the most extreme thing about the conservatives.

00:37:39.000 Anyways, if your argument is we should not exercise power because the left is going to exercise power, you have to get past that because they're going to exercise power regardless of what you're doing.

00:37:51.000 No, my position is.

00:37:52.000 No, I'm not allowed to go.

00:37:53.000 My position is neither the left or the right should be exercising dystopian power because when that happens, you lose your right.

00:38:00.000 It's not about dystopian.

00:38:01.000 The first thing I thought was if a cop puts his hand on my hood of my car and I touch my gas pedal, he has a right to shoot me and everyone's like, yep. 0.99

00:38:08.000 I'm like, well, that's fucking crazy. 0.99

00:38:10.000 Why would you do that? 0.99

00:38:11.000 Why would you watch five years?

00:38:13.000 I'm driving down the road and a guy walks out on the street and he put his hand on my car.

00:38:16.000 He's like, this is an official zone.

00:38:19.000 We're studying a crime.

00:38:20.000 And I'm like, who are you?

00:38:21.000 He's like, don't move your car.

00:38:22.000 And I'm like, show me a badge.

00:38:24.000 He's like, don't move your car.

00:38:26.000 Now I can't touch my gas.

00:38:27.000 And you're not going to be able to get a random.

00:38:29.000 You're changing the context so much where it's not.

00:38:31.000 I'm voting against escalation because it's not right.

00:38:33.000 This is a contingent possibility of escalation.

00:38:36.000 No.

00:38:36.000 Random dudes walking out in the middle of the road with their AR.

00:38:38.000 Ian, Ian, it's not random dudes.

00:38:40.000 Those guys were clearly identified as ICE.

00:38:44.000 As a new form of military branch or some heavily militarized form of political.

00:38:48.000 You keep changing the militia.

00:38:50.000 You're changing the context.

00:38:52.000 She knew they were.

00:38:53.000 First of all, she knew they were.

00:38:54.000 Second of all, if there's a police officer that says police or says ICE and they all wear very clear identification that says they're ICE.

00:39:04.000 So if I do watch that with someone, she's a clear band.

00:39:06.000 She's an American citizen.

00:39:08.000 She's an American citizen.

00:39:09.000 So she's probably thinking ICE probably doesn't have any authority on this.

00:39:13.000 ICE is like Gestapo.

00:39:14.000 Exactly.

00:39:15.000 Right.

00:39:15.000 It doesn't matter what she's saying.

00:39:16.000 But it's not for American citizens.

00:39:17.000 She's probably thinking as an American citizen, she can do that, but they're going after the city.

00:39:20.000 No, no, no.

00:39:21.000 She thinks ICE are literally like a Gestapo going around, like they're some sort of Nazi death.

00:39:26.000 Yeah, against illegals. 0.97

00:39:27.000 No, against everyone.

00:39:28.000 That's the messaging that they get.

00:39:29.000 Well, now it is because she's murdered an American citizen. 0.78

00:39:31.000 No, they trust me, they believe that ICE are these just like loose cannons and they're these crazy Trump death squad megatrons or whatever, which would be kind of base against illegals.

00:39:42.000 But to your point, Ian, like you can't change the context of what happened.

00:39:46.000 If there's someone that doesn't have anything, any identifying markers, and they come out and put their hand on your car and you speed away, no one is going to say you did anything wrong because they don't have any identification.

00:39:59.000 What if your shirt says police on it?

00:40:01.000 If the shirt says police, like if it just says, what do you mean?

00:40:04.000 Is it like an official?

00:40:05.000 What if they have a badge and a shirt that says policia on it or whatever the shirt?

00:40:05.000 What do I mean?

00:40:10.000 What if they identify they look like a cop?

00:40:13.000 If they're dressed like a police officer, you should probably do what they're saying.

00:40:17.000 There are cop impersonators that people like just people over that have fake cop stuff.

00:40:22.000 What if it's a local militia, man?

00:40:23.000 Like, think five years in the future of what you know, you gotta because we're not dealing with hypotheticals.

00:40:28.000 We're dealing with women driving cars. 1.00

00:40:31.000 It's already like, okay, what if, you know, what if they like develop laser guns and then like start evaporating illegals? 0.93

00:40:37.000 It's like, well, I'd be base, one, but two.

00:40:39.000 No, it wouldn't be base.

00:40:40.000 Like, what to evaporate illegals? 1.00

00:40:41.000 This is what I mean.

00:40:42.000 You're right-wing.

00:40:43.000 We're making a joke.

00:40:44.000 We're making fun of the college.

00:40:46.000 We're making fun of it.

00:40:48.000 So, I mean, you said that at the top of the show, you said that this operation, this whole removing the illegal, you agreed that illegal immigration wasn't good.

00:40:55.000 I think you had to do it.

00:40:56.000 That's for the work.

00:40:57.000 I asked for the working group.

00:40:58.000 We need to either stop trying to get rid of them or do it harshly.

00:41:01.000 What was the word you used?

00:41:02.000 Yeah, usually the tough measures, because what's happened at the moment is what they've done is they've fermented, they've allowed this incident to occur.

00:41:08.000 Now he may not bring the National Guard in, then he'll bring it in, and then things will escalate.

00:41:12.000 And what's happened is that you've allowed this major escalation to occur by doing it so slowly in a very small escalation manner, like a little bit and a little bit and a little bit.

00:41:20.000 I think the way he should have dealt with this, saying, look, I'm targeting this city.

00:41:23.000 I'm going in harsh.

00:41:25.000 All these people are going to go in.

00:41:26.000 Whereas the ICE and National Guard, whoever it is, will find all the illegal immigrants, will bring them in, and will be very tough that people can't go there and protest.

00:41:34.000 You can't have this escalation that occurs.

00:41:35.000 And you just go into the city and you completely sort the issue out.

00:41:38.000 You know, this escalation factor is that what happens is things ferment.

00:41:41.000 And when things ferment, they become worse, worse, worse, worse.

00:41:44.000 And now you lose control.

00:41:45.000 And then it's like, for example, you know how a father ends up hitting the kid because the kid's not listening.

00:41:48.000 But you already got in that situation because you didn't put the rules and requirements in first.

00:41:51.000 You weren't tough in the past.

00:41:52.000 So when you say harsh, like when I think harsh, I mean, are you talking about martial law?

00:41:59.000 It's a very good question.

00:42:00.000 Not martial law, no.

00:42:02.000 But what I mean is you would basically, let's just take one city as an example.

00:42:04.000 You'd go into, let's say, Florida.

00:42:07.000 There'll be a specific area in Florida, whatever the area that there's a lot of illegal immigrants.

00:42:11.000 I don't know what it is.

00:42:12.000 And then you'd basically send in ICE and the National Guard, immediately go in, find everyone, do the operation in a very small period of time.

00:42:20.000 You don't even have time to get the protests and the gatherings done.

00:42:22.000 You completely sort the whole issue out in a very systemized way.

00:42:26.000 It means escalation much more than just expecting local authorities to collaborate with the federal government.

00:42:31.000 I said that would contribute to a much higher degree of escalation than if we just expect these local authorities to collaborate with the federal government.

00:42:37.000 Yeah, I think I see what you're saying, but it's just that fermenting part, isn't it?

00:42:40.000 Because what's happened now is what I predicted.

00:42:42.000 But why was this escalation that was going to occur?

00:42:45.000 Now what you'll see is even more protesters are going to be coming.

00:42:47.000 Even more people, now Trump's going to send in the National Guard, then they'll send more protesters.

00:42:51.000 Then Trump might be the Insurrection Act.

00:42:53.000 It's going to be, that's just escalation.

00:42:54.000 Why is the impetus on the federal government to disengage when it's the local authorities that are not collaborating with the federal government, not collaborating with the law that, again, the president is sort of trying to enact here?

00:43:03.000 Do you mean engage or disengage?

00:43:05.000 Well, I'm saying, why is the impetus on the right in the President Trump and the USA?

00:43:11.000 You know, some states believe they have state rights.

00:43:13.000 The same reason why the federal government has marijuana is illegal, but in some places it's illegal.

00:43:17.000 So sometimes the states and the government can disagree.

00:43:19.000 There's nowhere where it's legal for illegals to come in. 0.96

00:43:21.000 We're trying to conduct a federal operation.

00:43:23.000 So why is the impetus on us to disengage?

00:43:26.000 Oh, no, I didn't say disengage.

00:43:27.000 I said the opposite.

00:43:28.000 I know, I agree with you.

00:43:29.000 I think Trump should go way harder.

00:43:30.000 You're saying, if the goal is to mitigate escalation, no, no, I fear that situation.

00:43:36.000 So, if you're talking about this specific shooting of Renee Goode, I'm saying that was handled really badly because you had the vice president, the president, come in and basically in support of the guy without an investigation.

00:43:47.000 What would have been smart, basically, management, which is what the president is, is basically to say, look, we're going to look into it.

00:43:54.000 This is the information we've got.

00:43:56.000 There's going to be an independent inquiry.

00:43:57.000 Then the left acting mentor would have actually made them look mental.

00:44:00.000 Right now, no matter what you say, because you guys are in your kind of like right-wing echo chamber, both sides, the left, do think this is a state-sanctioned murder.

00:44:07.000 And you guys are like, yeah, she got murdered because she was going to murder him with a weapon.

00:44:12.000 So, whatever it may be, this is major escalation.

00:44:14.000 I want to make this point there, real quick.

00:44:16.000 So, when it came down to this specific thing, I don't think this, you know, Renee Good's death was planned, but the people that are really in power, whether you want to call it the deep state, they knew there's been multiple deaths now.

00:44:16.000 I just want to make this point.

00:44:29.000 Portland, two people died.

00:44:30.000 I think there was another person that got choked to death.

00:44:33.000 They knew when they put the federal government and they put ICE in these cities that there was going to be something that happens, like a George Floyd-esque situation.

00:44:40.000 They love that this is happening.

00:44:41.000 They love that we're fighting about it, especially after Charlie's death, where all the left cheered that on, and now you have all these right, you know, right-landing people cheering on her, you know, Renee Good's death.

00:44:50.000 It just shows the hypocrisy in the situation, and this is all done on purpose in order to divide us.

00:44:54.000 And if we can't see that, and I would say have just kind of a, I mean, you don't want to admit it, but I'm saying, I guess, have a neutral take on this, then you're just kind of feeding into the propaganda.

00:45:05.000 My question would be: why would the deep state be in favor of immigration?

00:45:08.000 Because they want more federal government control.

00:45:10.000 They want more ICA.

00:45:11.000 They want to put Palantir in place.

00:45:14.000 They want to put a social credit system.

00:45:15.000 For the last 60 years, every deep state sort of incentive structure has been put behind mass migration.

00:45:20.000 Well, of course, exactly.

00:45:22.000 In order to divide us and to make our country have, you know, I guess.

00:45:25.000 Agreed.

00:45:25.000 No, you know, Germany or a hegemon or whatever you want to call it.

00:45:29.000 Like, the more diverse society gets, it's actually easier for ruling powers.

00:45:32.000 It's like a homogenous society is actually what it's about anarchy.

00:45:35.000 It's causing anarchy in the country.

00:45:37.000 It's causing chaos.

00:45:38.000 And therefore, what this does is ferments that.

00:45:40.000 Then you have basically these, I know you think it's whatever, but then you have these extra like palantir.

00:45:44.000 You have these other situated things where people are being tracked, people are being checked.

00:45:48.000 Then you have social credit score for your safety.

00:45:50.000 When things get worse, what happens is you manufacture, you know how COVID, hold on.

00:45:54.000 Everyone got manufactured consent.

00:45:56.000 People, when someone tells you someone on the left and someone on the right, guess what?

00:45:59.000 You're going to be murdered.

00:46:00.000 Like the best way to be able not to die on the streets is to allow them to do that. 0.57

00:46:03.000 Hold on a second.

00:46:04.000 You guys remember Jordan Peterson, right?

00:46:06.000 Everybody knows Jordan Peterson.

00:46:07.000 Yes.

00:46:07.000 Yeah, he's left.

00:46:08.000 One of the things that he did.

00:46:10.000 One of the points that he made that enough.

00:46:12.000 One of the things that he said was like, hey, you know, people have inherent opinions, right?

00:46:19.000 Like, they're really based on their personality.

00:46:22.000 He wasn't.

00:46:23.000 I definitely do.

00:46:25.000 I've always been pretty right-wing.

00:46:27.000 Even when I was a libertarian, I was a right-wing libertarian, right?

00:46:29.000 And so the idea that there needs to be this top-down division, I think that's totally wrong.

00:46:36.000 Even in the French Revolution.

00:46:38.000 Yes.

00:46:41.000 Let me divide.

00:46:42.000 Let me divide and conquer.

00:46:43.000 Let me divide it.

00:46:44.000 Let me finish.

00:46:45.000 You guys made your point.

00:46:46.000 Let me finish.

00:46:47.000 The point that I'm making is people are inherently right-wing or left-wing generally.

00:46:52.000 Like, people do have a certain, you don't think that the people who are.

00:46:54.000 I would disagree.

00:46:55.000 I would say that we're more populous country.

00:46:57.000 Yeah.

00:46:58.000 Yeah.

00:46:58.000 I don't think people are in the middle.

00:47:00.000 The average person would probably be a normal person if they weren't manipulated by group would have a mixed left. 1.00

00:47:06.000 No, I don't think so at all.

00:47:07.000 I think that there are people, because you go and look back at the French Revolution, right?

00:47:12.000 The people very easily split between the people that wanted revolutionary change, which is like the Jacobins and the people on the left, and the people that said, no, we need to stick with tradition.

00:47:20.000 There are people that just have these kind of opinions.

00:47:23.000 And so they got powerful.

00:47:26.000 Hold on, hold on.

00:47:27.000 I'm starving. 1.00

00:47:27.000 What's this bitch doing? 1.00

00:47:28.000 Let's just go to the house. 1.00

00:47:28.000 Hold on. 1.00

00:47:29.000 I mean, that's totally different.

00:47:30.000 Hold on.

00:47:31.000 There were peasants that did side with the left, and there were peasants that sided with the right. 0.91

00:47:36.000 They retarded peasants. 1.00

00:47:37.000 I'm serious. 0.99

00:47:38.000 I mean, it was a long time ago.

00:47:42.000 Just right now. 1.00

00:47:44.000 Well, shit, they went out. 1.00

00:47:45.000 Listen, listen. 1.00

00:47:47.000 I'm not saying that there aren't people that benefit from the division in the U.S.

00:47:51.000 And there are people that will foment it because they want to see certain ends.

00:47:55.000 But the idea that if it wasn't for the people above kind of pulling the strings that we wouldn't have division, I totally disagree, particularly when you have a country like ours that is basically multicultural nowadays. 0.99

00:48:10.000 Well, no, you are activistic for sure, but I would say that our tribes do get along.

00:48:14.000 That it's not, I disagree.

00:48:16.000 That's definitely not true.

00:48:16.000 I disagree.

00:48:17.000 No, you disagree.

00:48:18.000 You can't even be friends with a leftist.

00:48:20.000 It's not about friends, but we're talking about national-level cultural cohesion.

00:48:23.000 It's just not possible.

00:48:24.000 Everywhere you look on planet Earth, multicultural, diverse societies are dysfunctional. 1.00

00:48:29.000 Singapore is maybe the only exception.

00:48:30.000 Yeah, so it's not impossible to have a cohesive.

00:48:32.000 Well, Singapore requires extreme authoritarianism, which you've said you're against.

00:48:35.000 I am against it, but I'm just saying, I just think that what is being done is a coordinated attack on us so that we're fighting each other, so that we don't actually solve our problems.

00:48:44.000 When you see our government, we have a uniparty.

00:48:45.000 What was it? 0.58

00:48:46.000 45 senators just voted to give 300 million to Planned Parenthood, but they call themselves conservative and they want to go kill babies and give to these left-wing organizations. 0.97

00:48:54.000 It's all a lie. 0.50

00:48:55.000 How do you agree on that?

00:48:56.000 Well, I'm saying these politicians, it's all fake, Tate. 0.91

00:48:59.000 I know, I'm just telling you, it's a uniparty, and we get the impression that it's right-wing versus left-wing Macho Man, Randy Savage versus Hulk Hogan, and it's all bullshit because they're on the same team because they're going to the locker room at the end of the day, and they're having a beer together, and they're laughing because they get all the money. 0.90

00:49:12.000 And that's why Elaine Omar goes into office, has $100,000 in her bank account, and now she's got $30 million. 1.00

00:49:16.000 That's why Dan Crenshaw has become rich being a politician.

00:49:20.000 These people do not have a lot of people who are going to be able to do that. 1.00

00:49:20.000 Donald Trump shit. 1.00

00:49:21.000 You're talking about the business. 1.00

00:49:22.000 With a right-wing populace and a left-wing populace, what overlapping goals would they even have?

00:49:26.000 I think a lot of goals.

00:49:28.000 I think most of the goals are.

00:49:30.000 Besides like vague, like eat the rich or get her reach for jobs. 1.00

00:49:34.000 That's not big.

00:49:34.000 That's huge.

00:49:36.000 It's a lot of people.

00:49:37.000 So you don't think we have an affordability crisis that affects huge?

00:49:40.000 Right, yes.

00:49:41.000 So would you say that the leftists and rights are the targets that we were talking about earlier in the French Revolution?

00:49:46.000 Those were the ones that were saying eat the rich.

00:49:46.000 That's true.

00:49:48.000 The idea of eat the rich would destroy the government. 0.99

00:49:51.000 Well, and what I'm saying is, okay, the target is.

00:49:53.000 But the reason I say they're vague is because the times that vague goals overlap, they have two completely different ideas, policies that they're proposing to achieve that.

00:50:00.000 Really, other than trans and abortion, a lot of leftists and right-leaning people actually agree on a lot of self-defense.

00:50:08.000 These are not the only two divisions.

00:50:10.000 They have fundamentally different worldviews.

00:50:11.000 Also, anti-war gay stuff.

00:50:13.000 People on the left-wing view people as blank slates, and then people on the right view people as part of larger hierarchy.

00:50:18.000 This is like the foundations of political.

00:50:20.000 I don't know if I agree with that.

00:50:22.000 People on the left are typically not religious.

00:50:22.000 That's right.

00:50:24.000 People on the right are typically religious.

00:50:25.000 Well, there are people on the right that aren't religious.

00:50:27.000 I know there's exceptions, but they don't disprove the norm.

00:50:29.000 Well, I don't even know what the majority breakdown is.

00:50:34.000 But if you do look at like, you know, we talk about Israel a lot, you know, they're all left-leaning, and now that the conservatives support Israel, and now they've all become conservative.

00:50:41.000 Doesn't that seem kind of weird?

00:50:42.000 Like, they obviously didn't have a political party if they donated to all these left-leaning places.

00:50:46.000 And then now Donald Trump is, you know, sympathetic to their support of Israel.

00:50:51.000 Now they're all becoming conservatives.

00:50:52.000 You don't think that that's the same thing?

00:50:53.000 People from Silicon Valley, Bill Ackman, Elon Musk, he's talking about those people.

00:50:56.000 Did you just see how they can flip-flop?

00:50:57.000 So it's all right.

00:50:58.000 And you can be a leftist one day, and the next day you can donate $20 million to Trump's.

00:51:02.000 Well, because they have one issue.

00:51:03.000 But that's separate from like...

00:51:03.000 Exactly.

00:51:05.000 Well, they don't have one issue.

00:51:06.000 Like, Elon Musk, it's not just the Israel issue.

00:51:08.000 He's got the H1.

00:51:09.000 Elon Musk and Bill Ackman have two completely different end goals.

00:51:12.000 True.

00:51:12.000 So I'm talking about Elon Musk and Silicon Valley.

00:51:14.000 issues are basically cheap labor even within well to a degree yeah cheap labor israel um basically zionist control of the united states of america implanting implanting like this attack into into the country making sure ai and they have the basically control over what happens with ai AI is the future.

00:51:32.000 That's very important.

00:51:32.000 Having control of the data centers, hence why Greenland, all these things when we shoot.

00:51:35.000 So them moving.

00:51:36.000 Greenland is geopolitical, not about AI.

00:51:39.000 It is about AI.

00:51:41.000 It's about the trade routes that are opening up.

00:51:43.000 It's probably both.

00:51:46.000 Do you think Venezuela is a part of the Silicon Valley cabal that's running?

00:51:49.000 So Venezuela, I think, is first of all, I think it's Zionists. 1.00

00:51:55.000 Is the Zionists? 0.98

00:51:56.000 Even all the people went on there and said, oh, this is so good because Iran won't have oil, Russia won't have oil.

00:52:01.000 I mean, you can't see that China won't have oil.

00:52:03.000 That's why we went there so that we can, our adversaries- It's a geopolitical move.

00:52:06.000 I know.

00:52:07.000 To punish our adversaries.

00:52:08.000 That's why we're going into the world.

00:52:09.000 I don't think it is.

00:52:11.000 China's still getting the same amount of oil.

00:52:12.000 You're getting the same amount of deal.

00:52:14.000 The reason for that was...

00:52:15.000 I ran my knot.

00:52:16.000 Iran might be getting less.

00:52:16.000 Sorry?

00:52:19.000 No no those deals are still in place Iran exports oil But the point is Sorry go ahead Well, I'm just saying.

00:52:25.000 What happens in Venezuela does affect Iran because they drop Hezbollah.

00:52:29.000 I'm saying, and they have Hezbollah there.

00:52:30.000 So, you know, the main thing is that it won't even drop oil prices because we just were dumping oil on the market now, very cheap oil.

00:52:36.000 No, but the point is they can't dump it because what's going to happen is they've got a large reserve of oil.

00:52:40.000 But to be able to penetrate into that oil and use it is going to take a long time.

00:52:44.000 That's why a lot of like now. 0.98

00:52:45.000 And it's funny you say that because in California, oil and gas is still expensive as shit. 0.98

00:52:49.000 That's California. 0.99

00:52:50.000 I know, but it's a state.

00:52:51.000 Why is it cheaper in Texas?

00:52:53.000 Because California has their own regulation. 1.00

00:52:54.000 There's a bunch of bullshit regulations. 0.99

00:52:55.000 Does that make it more expensive? 1.00

00:52:58.000 That's a whole different thing.

00:53:00.000 Let's put aside Paul Single.

00:53:01.000 Probably he's going to get quite a lot of the Venezuelan oil.

00:53:03.000 But yeah, I think there's multiple factors when it comes to Venezuela.

00:53:06.000 I think it's primarily a geopolitical play.

00:53:08.000 What do you say?

00:53:09.000 It's primarily a geopolitical place.

00:53:09.000 That's it.

00:53:12.000 Yeah, I mean, that's the long and short of it, right?

00:53:15.000 It's good in multiple ways for the United States.

00:53:15.000 It's good.

00:53:18.000 Yeah, that's what I don't think they're going to do.

00:53:20.000 I don't think it's good to steal someone's oil personally.

00:53:21.000 You get the Panama Canal, too.

00:53:23.000 I mean, we basically sort of started it when they nationalized all of the oil that they nationalized.

00:53:29.000 They cut deals with these, again, private American enterprise that cut deals with these different Venezuelan organizations to basically go to war with countries for private companies.

00:53:39.000 I don't know.

00:53:39.000 Sounds a bit commy to me.

00:53:40.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:53:45.000 Yeah, but of course we're going to protect American property.

00:53:47.000 Sound like pirates, man.

00:53:48.000 We're going to protect American property.

00:53:51.000 Real quick, to your point, though, these multinational corporations, Exxon doesn't just operate.

00:53:55.000 So you call it an American company.

00:53:56.000 Yeah, a lot of that money goes to Americans, but it doesn't just go to Americans.

00:53:59.000 It actually goes to other countries' benefit for the US.

00:54:00.000 And by the way, it doesn't go to no American working class people.

00:54:03.000 Let's look at the Apple iPhone.

00:54:04.000 The Apple iPhone is made in Shengdong, China, where the conditions are so bad for the workers, they have suicide nets.

00:54:10.000 And the reason they do that is to save money.

00:54:12.000 So these corporations don't care about us.

00:54:14.000 They actually care about their bottom line more than killing their own employees. 0.89

00:54:17.000 So I do think it's a problem when we have a country that's being run by multinational corporations.

00:54:21.000 And I think it is obvious that that happens when these politicians are all getting funded by whether it be APAC or even these oil and gas industries or the farming industry, whatever industry it is, they can buy these politicians for pennies on the dollar.

00:54:33.000 I just don't like multinational corporations encouraging us to go start wars on their behalf.

00:54:37.000 And if you say that doesn't happen, I just think you're being, you know, a little dull.

00:54:40.000 Well, that's the difference between America and China. 0.61

00:54:42.000 In America, multinational corporations and companies run the country with China is the other way around. 0.60

00:54:48.000 It's the country that runs the corporations, but they're very similar models.

00:54:51.000 Yeah, it's corporatocracy is what we're in right now.

00:54:53.000 And then the Chinese have a communist state where the corporation owns 51.

00:54:56.000 They're both dangerous because the corporations can become governments of their own.

00:54:59.000 They basically are now.

00:55:00.000 It's very dangerous.

00:55:01.000 They can hire a standing army.

00:55:02.000 They literally went to Venezuela.

00:55:03.000 That's just propaganda.

00:55:05.000 That's why it's vital to identify, okay, what policies specifically would undercut those MNE networks, so to speak.

00:55:13.000 That's obviously, yeah, that is true that they do have a lot of influence in Washington and probably a plurality of influence.

00:55:19.000 Control.

00:55:20.000 So, the question is: okay, what policies that the Trump pursuing, the Trump administration is pursuing that would undercut the goals, again, of multinational corporations, et cetera, these very varied interests.

00:55:29.000 And again, mass deportations is something that is absolutely petrifying to multinational.

00:55:34.000 I would argue that legal immigration is almost worse than the illegal immigration. 0.67

00:55:38.000 The fact that you have H-1B visas, these people, and then look this up.

00:55:41.000 Indians, people are going to fact-check me, are more likely to lie on a college acceptance application or a work application.

00:55:48.000 You even had Minnie Kaling's brother is famous for saying that on a medical school application, he put that he was black.

00:55:53.000 So, we actually have a system that all these college kids, you're a young college-aged guy, you go and you spend $100,000 on a college degree, and you get your job stolen by an Indian guy that lied on his resume because he's companies put in legislation that benefits them, that lets them hire them and get tax breaks. 0.99

00:56:08.000 So, that's bullshit. 0.89

00:56:09.000 And that is being done by multinational corporations. 1.00

00:56:11.000 And you know what?

00:56:12.000 Trump's not, I don't know if he stopped that.

00:56:13.000 I think he gave 300,000 visas to more Chinese people.

00:56:16.000 So, I would just like it if we actually had a government that cared about American citizens, or maybe the affordability crisis that you say is, oh, right-leaning people and left-leaning people have, you know, not the same problems.

00:56:25.000 I would argue that most of our problems are very similar.

00:56:27.000 Yes, true.

00:56:28.000 Again, if that were the case, people that are on the left, that again, if they are truly prioritizing kitchen table issues, they'd be all in favor of mass deportations.

00:56:34.000 But the problem is they have another, they have another guiding North Star, which is ultimately they have self-hatred and they're totally okay with like, again, eradicating the cultural foundation of the United States.

00:56:44.000 That's not what it is.

00:56:45.000 So, what it is is the people on the left have been people have taken control of them.

00:56:50.000 And in reality, what's happened is they care more about liberal work issues rather than real left-wing issues.

00:56:56.000 So, you're right.

00:56:56.000 If you were a real left-wing person, you would support deportations.

00:57:00.000 You would also support the tariffs, not the way Trump did it because he did it in a full-on mental, made-no-sense way, which destroyed small businesses.

00:57:06.000 But if they did proper tariffs, they should be supporting it.

00:57:09.000 The reason they don't support is A, because they're anti-Trump, and B, because they don't know what left-wing is.

00:57:12.000 They think left-wing is actually being liberal and woke.

00:57:14.000 But that being said, you have the same thing on the right.

00:57:17.000 Like, on the right, they'll only support policies if Trump tells them.

00:57:20.000 So, a lot of people on the right were like, oh, why are you somewhat?

00:57:23.000 I know it was 50-50, but even on the H-1B visa, a lot of them were supporting Trump.

00:57:27.000 But when in reality, that was harming working-class Americans.

00:57:30.000 So, this is the problem you have when people fall out as part of a group.

00:57:33.000 They'll just follow the group irrespective of what the actual political ideology of that group is.

00:57:37.000 I would think, yeah, expanding H-1B is like the entire system should be completely gutted.

00:57:40.000 But the Trump administration has, in the year of 2025, like the data has come out, we are at net negative migration.

00:57:45.000 So, again, more foreigners have left the country than have arrived.

00:57:48.000 That has never happened in 60 years.

00:57:50.000 So, really, since the Hart Seller Act passed, which was really a nuclear bomb in the United States in many ways, we have not been able to achieve net negative migration.

00:57:56.000 So, it's like, no, I'm going to give them a message to their flower.

00:57:59.000 How many deportations has he done?

00:58:01.000 I think right now it's around like 600 to 700,000.

00:58:04.000 And then like one and a half million, one and a half million self-deportations.

00:58:09.000 Allegedly.

00:58:10.000 Well, again, if we're at net negative migration, I'm going to look.

00:58:14.000 This is the problem.

00:58:15.000 No, I'm genuinely asking you as someone who's slow.

00:58:18.000 Because I know you're like that.

00:58:19.000 But I think like you're like very much a MAGA guy.

00:58:22.000 And also, what it is, I think it's a fact because you've been very strong about this conversation about how much you don't like illegal immigration.

00:58:29.000 All immigration. 0.95

00:58:30.000 Yeah.

00:58:30.000 But okay, all even better.

00:58:32.000 All immigration. 0.95

00:58:34.000 So in terms of the number of 600,000, when you've got what, 20 million, 11 million illegal immigrants.

00:58:39.000 I think 80 to 100 million need to go.

00:58:42.000 What?

00:58:42.000 80 to 100 million people need to be out of the country.

00:58:45.000 100 million people need to leave the United States.

00:58:46.000 We need a lot of denaturalization.

00:58:49.000 Okay, please explain to me how you're going to go about.

00:58:50.000 So, okay, let's listen to it.

00:58:52.000 No, no.

00:58:52.000 That's my goal.

00:58:53.000 I want to hear this.

00:58:54.000 I always see some of these far-right guy sends.

00:58:55.000 I want to hear it.

00:58:56.000 So explain to me how you're going to, what's going to be your criteria of deporting, what is it, 30% of the population?

00:59:03.000 Yeah, I think achievable is probably like 30 to 40 million.

00:59:06.000 I think that's achievable.

00:59:07.000 No, you said 100 million.

00:59:08.000 That's what he said.

00:59:09.000 My pie in the sky.

00:59:10.000 My pie in the sky.

00:59:11.000 That's what I want to know.

00:59:11.000 No, no, no.

00:59:12.000 That's what I want to know.

00:59:12.000 But if you think you would know, so illegal is about 11 million.

00:59:15.000 What else?

00:59:16.000 Yeah, you would take anchor babies. 0.51

00:59:17.000 Much pretty much anyone that's Vivek Ramaswamy's gone.

00:59:21.000 Okay.

00:59:21.000 Yes.

00:59:23.000 Laura Luma.

00:59:24.000 Her mom's buried. 0.50

00:59:26.000 Yeah, I think generally anybody that came, I think the Hart Seller Act was just a massive mistake.

00:59:30.000 And so anybody that came in because of the Hart Seller Act, again, we should probably pursue denaturalization.

00:59:35.000 Could there be exceptions?

00:59:35.000 Sure.

00:59:35.000 I don't know what that would look like.

00:59:36.000 No, but no, because we need to, like, unless you're like, okay, if someone's white enough, I want them in. 1.00

00:59:41.000 It depends on the industrial position.

00:59:42.000 Well, I think white and black Americans are heritage Americans, and so they should be prioritized.

00:59:42.000 I want to know.

00:59:47.000 So FBA definitely stay.

00:59:50.000 Foundational black Americans.

00:59:52.000 I agree with the and culture analysis that like this is fundamentally a white and black country. 0.73

00:59:55.000 Like the first man killed in the American Revolution was a black man.

00:59:58.000 Like there's no question that they're distinctly American.

01:00:01.000 So basically, and when you say white Tejanos, like they were here for I'm only giving this example because I know them. 0.93

01:00:06.000 So like Jackson, his parents came on the Mayflower.

01:00:09.000 Jackson.

01:00:09.000 Jackson Hinkle.

01:00:10.000 And then Nick Fuentes, they came through Ellis Island.

01:00:13.000 Would they get to stay?

01:00:14.000 Well, yeah, again, that's pre-Hart and Seller Act.

01:00:16.000 It's like 1965.

01:00:17.000 And even Ellis Island had a lot of problems, too.

01:00:20.000 But like, how would you get your 100 million?

01:00:23.000 This is the thing I'm not getting.

01:00:24.000 Because we were at like 200 and I don't think I think we're at 180 million during the time of the Hart and Seller Act.

01:00:30.000 There'll have been births as well, isn't there?

01:00:31.000 Yeah, again, births to a lot of people from the Hart Seller Act.

01:00:34.000 I mean, if you look at the proportion.

01:00:35.000 Anyone who came after 1965, you would depart them.

01:00:37.000 So they get in a pie in the sky scenario.

01:00:39.000 Whoa, so they could have been in this country for three generations, but they're gone.

01:00:42.000 Elon Musk.

01:00:43.000 It would be about two to three.

01:00:44.000 Elon Musk.

01:00:45.000 Elon Musk out.

01:00:46.000 Maybe, yeah.

01:00:47.000 No, maybe according to the money.

01:00:48.000 Pie in the sky.

01:00:49.000 I'm just saying, yes, pie in the sky.

01:00:50.000 Okay, what about your non-pie in the sky?

01:00:52.000 Well, like, I think what's actually cracking.

01:00:55.000 It'd be like 30 to 40 million.

01:00:56.000 Oh, what would be in that?

01:00:58.000 What would be in that?

01:00:59.000 Who would be deported?

01:01:00.000 Well, I mean, alone, 30 million illegals.

01:01:02.000 That's easy.

01:01:02.000 And then a lot of people that have like fudged paperwork to get here, people that have immigrated here, but they're on welfare, people that are like net negative.

01:01:09.000 What about people who've not been born here, but have been, you know, got citizenship?

01:01:13.000 Again, we're looking at like what a feasible immigration policy is.

01:01:16.000 Yeah, they would stay if their paperwork is here and they're net contributors to the American tax base.

01:01:19.000 Okay, so just as long as you include his son Piker, I'm fine with it.

01:01:22.000 Yeah.

01:01:23.000 Whatever we need to do to get this on Piker out as well.

01:01:26.000 Let's touch a topic that is not controversial at all.

01:01:29.000 Donald Trump not bombing Iran.

01:01:32.000 Now, a lot of people expected it was going to happen on the 16th because I guess the first Ayatollah stepped down on January 16th, like 30 years ago, I guess.

01:01:40.000 So this date is very important to these people.

01:01:42.000 And it looks like I'm seeing on the Israel Fursers on Twitter getting mad that Trump hasn't done anything yet.

01:01:48.000 So I guess, you know, we can just go around the room. 0.98

01:01:50.000 I think that if we start a war with Iran, it's probably going to be a big cluster fuck and it's going to cause us a bunch of problems. 0.99

01:01:57.000 So I'm obviously, you know, I'm a conflict interventionist. 0.95

01:02:00.000 I don't want to go and fight these wars for other countries.

01:02:04.000 But, you know, I'd like to see maybe MAGA Tate wants to freaking blow up the Aatolla. 1.00

01:02:08.000 No, I do not want war with Iran.

01:02:10.000 I think it would be a quagmire.

01:02:11.000 Again, Venezuela, the goals were clear. 0.60

01:02:15.000 Again, the outcomes were clear even before the operation happened.

01:02:18.000 What if Maduro actually surrendered?

01:02:20.000 Have you heard that conspiracy?

01:02:21.000 Is that that Maduro had surrendered and was going to turn himself in?

01:02:24.000 Well, I mean, probably because he knew what we were capable of. 0.98

01:02:27.000 And he looked around and he saw that the people guarding him were fat retards. 1.00

01:02:31.000 So probably the best decision possible is to give himself up. 0.98

01:02:34.000 Saddam had given himself up too, but they were like, we don't want you. 0.99

01:02:37.000 We want the country.

01:02:38.000 Yeah, I'm just very allergic to intervention in the middle.

01:02:41.000 What about bombing?

01:02:42.000 What about the bombed?

01:02:43.000 I don't even, I just don't want to get involved.

01:02:45.000 I don't want to get involved in Iran. 1.00

01:02:47.000 It's just a mess.

01:02:47.000 Again, the intro.

01:02:48.000 You want to bomb Iran. 1.00

01:02:49.000 I didn't say I want to.

01:02:50.000 I said I'm fine.

01:02:51.000 There's a difference between there's, I'm not pro intervention in Iran, but if they did, I wouldn't lose any sleep. 0.65

01:02:58.000 It takes too young for this, but there's a thing called the PEANAC Project for a New American Century, where they actually wrote a whole doctrine about how they're going to take the seven biggest threats to Israel and the Middle East.

01:02:58.000 I get for sure.

01:03:07.000 And Iran is the last country on that list.

01:03:09.000 And we went there and we destabilized all these countries.

01:03:12.000 We basically went to Afghanistan.

01:03:14.000 Not only do you say Donald Trump is killing all these people because they have drugs, but in Afghanistan, we actually protected the poppy fields so that we didn't mess up their economy of selling heroin.

01:03:23.000 So, obviously, that's a lie.

01:03:24.000 Obviously, the government does, you know, want to sell drugs.

01:03:27.000 I think the Iran contrary, the government got caught shipping in cocaine, trading them.

01:03:30.000 But it wasn't about cocaine.

01:03:31.000 Well, they were giving Nicaraguans guns, and then we were taking the cocaine.

01:03:35.000 It was about fighting the communists.

01:03:36.000 Whatever.

01:03:37.000 I'm saying we were flying into Mean, Arkansas, and then Hillary Clinton, two boys, died on a train track, and they said they smoked weed and fell asleep on it.

01:03:42.000 And she covered all that up.

01:03:43.000 My point is: if you look at drugs, they don't care about drugs.

01:03:48.000 That's all why.

01:03:49.000 So, you know, just America is not.

01:03:53.000 We say we're so perfect.

01:03:54.000 I don't know.

01:03:54.000 I think we have a skeleton in our country.

01:03:56.000 On your question, you said you're fine with bombing Iran. 0.86

01:03:58.000 Are you fine with Iran bombing U.S. military sites in the GCC countries?

01:04:03.000 Why would I be fine with that? 0.98

01:04:04.000 That's a ridiculous question. 0.81

01:04:06.000 So, why are you fine with the first? 0.98

01:04:09.000 No, I'm an American and I like America.

01:04:12.000 So I'm on America.

01:04:13.000 I'm on America's side.

01:04:15.000 Okay, you can stop putting words in my mouth.

01:04:18.000 I'm on America's side.

01:04:19.000 How is that on America's side to bomb? 0.58

01:04:21.000 Because I said, if the United States does it, I'm not going to lose sleep over it.

01:04:25.000 Like, because it's, it's, the government does a lot of things that I wouldn't be out there saying we should go do this.

01:04:31.000 There's a lot of things that don't have significant impact on my life.

01:04:34.000 And if it doesn't have a significant impact on my life, I'm actually not going to go out and protest.

01:04:37.000 I'm not the kind of guy that's going to go and protest.

01:04:39.000 No, no, I'm not asking protest.

01:04:40.000 I'm asking because you could be like, look, I don't really agree with it, but it's fine.

01:04:43.000 Or you could be like, look, I'm neutral about it.

01:04:45.000 But when you say you're fine, I said I'm fine with that.

01:04:46.000 So that's a neutral.

01:04:48.000 I'm like, okay, fine, whatever.

01:04:49.000 Like, fine, would be neutral.

01:04:51.000 I'm not like, we should go do it.

01:04:53.000 In fact, I specifically said that.

01:04:55.000 Yeah, I think the problem with being neutral on the issue is that what is the consequence?

01:04:59.000 So there's only a couple of possibilities.

01:05:01.000 One possibility is you're okay with America bombing another country, which I'm just like a Muslim and I think ethically just harming anyone is not a good thing.

01:05:09.000 But okay, I know we've got different morals and ethics.

01:05:11.000 But that being said, separate to that, there's always consequences for your action.

01:05:15.000 So when you bomb Iran, inevitably there's going to be a reaction.

01:05:19.000 Hence why Israel, who knows that if they bomb Iran and the GCC countries, pleaded with Trump to say, look, don't do it.

01:05:26.000 And that's the reason he didn't do it because they knew that they would be targets.

01:05:28.000 The U.S. military bases would be targets.

01:05:30.000 Israel would be target. 0.91

01:05:32.000 And the issue you've got is that basically what it does is cause escalation.

01:05:35.000 Iran isn't a weak country.

01:05:36.000 I'm not so sure.

01:05:37.000 I'm not so sure that it actually would have significant consequences.

01:05:40.000 And the reason I say that is because there was everybody, so many people were saying, look, if we strike Iran, if we strike the nuclear sites in Iran, there's going to be all these consequences.

01:05:48.000 There's going to be a ground invasion.

01:05:49.000 There's going to be this.

01:05:50.000 And so far, we've not seen any of the consequences that people were predicting.

01:05:50.000 There's going to be that.

01:05:56.000 I'm not saying that there couldn't be things in the future.

01:05:59.000 I'm saying up to this point, we have not seen any of the stuff that the doomsayers were saying.

01:06:03.000 No, no, because that's because it seems like that was kind of like an agreed-upon situation where they were saying that all this stuff is definitely nothing.

01:06:10.000 Yeah, because it was agreed upon.

01:06:11.000 Because what actually happened in that war was, which has kind of been proven now, based on the fact that Israel said it in already, is it was a 12-day war.

01:06:18.000 Iran dominated Israel. 0.81

01:06:20.000 The very first day, Israel hit Iran really well. 1.00

01:06:22.000 Iran didn't expect it because they manipulated. 1.00

01:06:24.000 Trump told Iran, Israel is not going to hit you.

01:06:28.000 So he believed him and thought there's going to be negotiations on Sunday.

01:06:31.000 On the Friday, they hit.

01:06:32.000 Iran was doing military exercises.

01:06:33.000 So on the first day, they succeeded within Iran. 0.56

01:06:36.000 And after that, Iran dominated Israel. 0.83

01:06:38.000 Israel didn't have any defense missiles.

01:06:41.000 And this is the reason they don't want to do that.

01:06:42.000 They haven't got enough defense missiles to stop the attacks.

01:06:44.000 And so that's why they went to Trump and made sure that they stopped the war.

01:06:47.000 Trump's way of stopping the war was he had an agreed thing with Iran.

01:06:50.000 In my view, this is our last speculation.

01:06:52.000 Agreed in thing with Iran to say, look, you take your whatever nuclear bits you've got in Iran.

01:06:56.000 We're going to bomb.

01:06:57.000 And then you can do the thing in Qatar. 0.96

01:06:58.000 And they both bombed each other.

01:06:59.000 And that's the end of it.

01:07:01.000 But now Israel's not ready for the basically the war. 0.65

01:07:04.000 So I don't think that that was escalation.

01:07:06.000 Now, Iran doesn't want it because it would be significant escalation.

01:07:09.000 Then it would be GCC attacked, Israel attacked and Israel and GCC and already. 0.86

01:07:14.000 And I want to make this point because the first during the 12-day war, why did we bomb Iran? 0.51

01:07:18.000 Because they had nuclear capabilities, allegedly.

01:07:20.000 But now you see Donald Trump tweeting that we're going to bomb them to help the protesters.

01:07:24.000 So that's what we're going to do.

01:07:25.000 We're going to go destabilize countries because people are protesting because there's so many countries where that's happening.

01:07:29.000 I mean, in Israel.

01:07:30.000 The United States of America just someone got killed.

01:07:31.000 Yeah, we just protested against him.

01:07:33.000 Should another country bomb us for protesting our president?

01:07:36.000 No, countries are not saying nothing.

01:07:38.000 I don't think we should bomb Iran.

01:07:39.000 I mean, I guess it's just where it's like, what is the objective?

01:07:39.000 I'm just saying.

01:07:42.000 It's kind of like the war in the Middle East.

01:07:44.000 The objective is not clear.

01:07:45.000 So that's what.

01:07:46.000 The objective is solely for Israel. 0.59

01:07:47.000 If you're America first, you listen, let's be clear on this.

01:07:50.000 It's quite evident from the Middle East that these countries actually want deals with America.

01:07:56.000 As soon as Qatar, UAE got opportunities, they've got deals with the United States of America.

01:08:01.000 Worse than that, they've given the United States America $5 trillion.

01:08:04.000 That's the level of love they actually have for America.

01:08:07.000 And that's actually how they do.

01:08:08.000 Let's be clear on this.

01:08:09.000 Arabs psychologically and Asians as well, they look up to the United States of America.

01:08:13.000 They look up to the white man.

01:08:14.000 And so that's why they'll give $5 trillion to America.

01:08:18.000 And so my point about that is these countries want to make deals.

01:08:21.000 The issue you have is the only reason they're not making deals with America, for example, the only reason Iran has issues with America is because of Israel.

01:08:27.000 I'm not so sure I agree about Iran.

01:08:29.000 I understand what you're saying about the rest of the Middle East, though, because for the most part, most of the countries in the Middle East do have fairly good relations with the U.S.

01:08:38.000 And I think that a big part of the reason why the U.S. and Iran are hostile is because the U.S. is basically meddling in the Middle East according to Iran and Iran.

01:08:49.000 Iran would have far greater influence over other countries in the Middle East if it wasn't for the United States. 0.97

01:08:56.000 Saudi Arabia and Iran don't particularly get along.

01:08:59.000 And the Saudis have a significant interest in Iran not getting nuclear weapons.

01:09:04.000 I think that as much as it is true that Israel doesn't want Iran to get nuclear weapons, I also think that there are a lot of the countries.

01:09:12.000 Iran doesn't want nuclear weapons in the first place.

01:09:13.000 If they wanted it, they would have got it a very long time ago.

01:09:16.000 And they've got a basically, well, you can not believe it, but we've seen the actions.

01:09:19.000 I think that's one of the failures Iran's done, that they should have got nuclear weapons, but they've not got it because a fatwa made by Ayatollah Hamane, who basically said that you're not allowed to have nuclear weapons according to their religious law. 0.88

01:09:29.000 They're Shia, I'm Sunni.

01:09:30.000 So I have different religious beliefs to them.

01:09:32.000 That being said, they're quite clearly saying that they don't believe in nuclear proliferation.

01:09:36.000 In terms of Iran, I do actually think that if Iran didn't have an issue with Israel, because Saudi Israel and the United States have always kind of been aligned, they would have good relations with that, with all those countries.

01:09:46.000 And you see that by the fact that, for example, Hamas is Sunni, Iraq is a Shia, sorry, Iran is Shia. 0.68

01:09:52.000 So in reality, these people will get along.

01:09:54.000 When it comes to bigger geopolitical situations, they'll get along.

01:09:57.000 I believe there's only one impeding issue, and that is Israel. 0.94

01:10:00.000 Well, what's the issue exactly?

01:10:01.000 Israel.

01:10:02.000 Well, Israel wants control of the area. 0.63

01:10:05.000 They want to do expansion within the region.

01:10:07.000 And they themselves want to make sure that they don't have existential threats.

01:10:11.000 So they believe that in the future, there could be a scenario where maybe these countries could be a threat.

01:10:14.000 And so what they want to do is basically weaken all these countries so they're no longer a threat.

01:10:18.000 It's kind of like psychological damage after what happened according to them for a thousand years up until the Holocaust, where they think you can't trust the whites and you can't trust the Israelites.

01:10:26.000 It happened after the Holocaust as well, though, because there was the seven-day war and stuff like that.

01:10:32.000 Or when the Sixth Day War, a bunch of countries.

01:10:32.000 What do you mean?

01:10:36.000 Yeah, that was Israel.

01:10:37.000 That was, again, America lying to LBJ got on the phone with Nasser. 0.69

01:10:41.000 So what happened?

01:10:42.000 The Egyptians didn't want to go to war with Israel.

01:10:46.000 What happened was Nasser, the leader of Egypt, was actually fighting a war in Yemen.

01:10:51.000 He gets on a call with LBJ and he says, the Israelis are not going to attack us, are they?

01:10:54.000 Once again, he lies and says, no, they're not.

01:10:56.000 And then they do a blitzkrieg and attack them.

01:10:57.000 So that was Israel again. 0.90

01:10:59.000 Real quick, I just want to bring this up.

01:11:01.000 These letters from JFK where he was talking, you can look this up, where he was saying that he couldn't believe every single night that Israel was bombing themselves and then calling.

01:11:01.000 It's so crazy.

01:11:09.000 Thank you, we're talking about JFK.

01:11:11.000 Well, I'm saying it's just kind of weird that they were doing that.

01:11:14.000 You can find the article somewhere else, but in his own notes, he was saying that.

01:11:17.000 What happened to JFK?

01:11:18.000 Well, he was shot in the head. 0.98

01:11:19.000 The Jews killed him.

01:11:20.000 You said the Israelis were bombing themselves?

01:11:22.000 JFK wrote a note, and he said it, and we can find it.

01:11:25.000 And maybe this isn't a good one.

01:11:26.000 Hold on now.

01:11:27.000 They're kind of the masters of subterfuge, you know, the Israeli Mossad.

01:11:30.000 But when I look at the Balfour Declaration, the way Israel was set up after World War I and the betrayal of the Arabs, it seems like the liberal economic order's attempt at bulwarking the Suez Canal and controlling trade hegemony in the region.

01:11:43.000 They split up the Soviet Union and took Sevastopol and Black Sea port access away from the Russians on purpose after the fall of the Soviet Union.

01:11:50.000 Like, that's all Israel. 0.98

01:11:51.000 It seems like it's just a militarized outpost of the liberal economic order.

01:11:56.000 Even if it was, which I can see slightly where you're coming from, especially when you look at 67.

01:12:02.000 But then when you look at, for example, what happened to JFK and then you look at the fact that after that, you basically had a scenario where when the Soviet Union weakened.

01:12:10.000 Remember, Israel also was working on both sides.

01:12:12.000 They were given military, U.S. military secrets to the Soviet Union.

01:12:15.000 They were given Soviet Union's secrets to the United States of America.

01:12:19.000 So even in that situation, they weren't an ally.

01:12:20.000 They were actually an impediment.

01:12:22.000 They were going to just go with whichever side did well.

01:12:24.000 But in terms of the Suez Canal, in terms of what you're talking about, I guess that is a good, decent point.

01:12:30.000 But it became less of an issue over time, which you see when Egypt fully just basically became part of the American homogeneity.

01:12:36.000 Well, and this is the quote right here.

01:12:37.000 There were 13 bombs set off my last evening. 0.88

01:12:39.000 They're all in the Jewish quarter and all set off by Jews. 1.00

01:12:41.000 The ironical part is that the Jewish terrorists bombed their own telephone lines and electric connections.

01:12:46.000 The next day, frantically phoned up the British to come and fix them up. 1.00

01:12:49.000 So that's what we call a false flag attack. 0.72

01:12:51.000 Jesse said Jewish terrorists.

01:12:56.000 Is that what it says in there? 0.99

01:12:57.000 No, it says the set off by Jews.

01:12:58.000 Nothing about terrorists. 0.99

01:12:59.000 Yeah, Jewish terrorists bombed their own telephone.

01:13:02.000 Oh, well, I mean, so that, I mean, typically, and this might be splitting hairs, but typically terrorists are people that are not part of the government, and false flags are set up by the government.

01:13:13.000 Well, no, I mean, he's just saying we don't know.

01:13:16.000 Again, like I said, I'm only splitting hairs.

01:13:18.000 No, no, because no, because the problem is that what you've got is you're right.

01:13:21.000 Like, Israel has always been, United States of America has always been kind of linked and or subservient to Israel. 0.52

01:13:28.000 Subservient.

01:13:29.000 Yes.

01:13:30.000 No, that's why I said and are.

01:13:30.000 Always?

01:13:32.000 But always?

01:13:33.000 No, that's why I said and are.

01:13:35.000 Well, and or.

01:13:36.000 As in, because the U.S. was a country for, what, 150 years before?

01:13:43.000 I said the U.S. and Israel have always been linked and are.

01:13:47.000 So all been subsidized.

01:13:48.000 So it's either linked or subservient.

01:13:51.000 So you said, but you're not, you're.

01:13:53.000 The point that I'm making is the U.S. existed a long time before since 49.

01:13:56.000 Yeah, I know.

01:13:58.000 That's why I said and or.

01:13:59.000 So, but there were two key incidences I can just think about, which is, for example, the Brits.

01:14:04.000 Do you remember when they bombed the King David Hotel?

01:14:06.000 They called them terrorists then as well.

01:14:07.000 And then obviously, GFK always never had a good relationship with them and always seen them as extremists, as did the Queen of England.

01:14:13.000 You know, I have kind of this utilitarian take on supporting Israel and supporting military in the Middle East because I was really anti-war in Iraq.

01:14:21.000 It was just seemed like nonsense.

01:14:22.000 But now I think if we just pulled out of the Middle East and just said, you're on your own, Iran, take nuclear weapons. 0.84

01:14:29.000 I feel like Russia and China would take over the world, take over the Suez Canal. 0.97

01:14:33.000 America would become third bitch, and then we would be spending $700 on coffees and speaking Mandarin. 0.99

01:14:40.000 So it's like I'm a little more bullish on military authority and control now to protect American religious, you know, republicanism, essentially. 0.97

01:14:50.000 Where does your taking power?

01:14:52.000 So I'll just state your position back and tell me if I said it wrong.

01:14:55.000 So your position is that America should subjugate the world so you can have cheaper goods.

01:15:01.000 And it's beyond me.

01:15:02.000 Because freedom of speech, because of gun rights, property rights, these ethics that are inherent in our country, I think is the best on earth or the least worthy.

01:15:09.000 Do you think that's a good ethic to subjugate the earth to murder, kill, and cause mayhem so that you can have cheaper coffee?

01:15:18.000 I know I'm kind of being reductive in what I'm saying, but I do think America should behave like an empire.

01:15:23.000 Let me answer.

01:15:25.000 But there's different ways an empire.

01:15:26.000 Yeah, so you don't have to change it. 0.95

01:15:29.000 Because initially you were like, they should kill and bomb and do all these terrible things.

01:15:33.000 Then he says, well, you know, like they should behave like an empire. 0.95

01:15:36.000 And then you're like, okay, well, there's different ways to do it.

01:15:39.000 So the way that you set up the question is should they be the worst empire imaginable?

01:15:45.000 So that way you can do this.

01:15:45.000 But that's what they're saying.

01:15:47.000 No, absolutely not.

01:15:48.000 No, absolutely not.

01:15:49.000 The United States is not the worst ever, the worst empire imaginable.

01:15:52.000 If China or Russia were in actual global power, I'm not saying they are.

01:15:58.000 I said if they were, it would be totally different.

01:16:01.000 No, China is expanding.

01:16:02.000 Economic.

01:16:02.000 But China is expanding.

01:16:04.000 China now, when you look at it from a military perspective, when you look at it from a technological perspective, they're massively advanced.

01:16:11.000 And they're advancing so much.

01:16:12.000 And I don't want China to take past it. 0.96

01:16:13.000 But this kind of understanding that you believe that China is not advancing in the way they are and that they're not building an empire is just certainly not. 0.98

01:16:19.000 They're certainly trapping third world assholes with horrible trade deals. 1.00

01:16:24.000 That's different than exercising military power. 0.95

01:16:27.000 so you prefer the military where they build that's how empires should operate No, but they're actually building an empire as well, but they're just doing it economically.

01:16:34.000 But they're doing it in like fairly inconsequential places and very sloppily, like Sri Lanka. 1.00

01:16:39.000 And the United States, the United States, absolutely is.

01:16:42.000 Look, all you have to do is look at how many countries have McDonald's to know that the United States did it economically.

01:16:47.000 Right?

01:16:47.000 Like the United States has built a liberal economic border since World War II.

01:16:54.000 Venezuela is one of the few countries that doesn't have a Rothschild bank.

01:16:57.000 Iran, another country that doesn't have a Rothschild bank.

01:16:59.000 And it's very important to these people that all these countries do have Rothschild banks.

01:17:03.000 I mean, that's just a fact.

01:17:05.000 So my thing is this.

01:17:06.000 You're right, by the way.

01:17:06.000 But my thing is this.

01:17:08.000 I want America to be in charge.

01:17:10.000 I just want it to be done peacefully.

01:17:11.000 Well, I don't think it can.

01:17:13.000 I mean, I understand peace through strength and determining.

01:17:16.000 China showed you a mode where it can be.

01:17:18.000 Well, the problem is Trump is kind of showing you a mode where it can be because Syria, he's kind of created an agreement now where he looks like he's bringing them into the empire. 0.64

01:17:26.000 He's not going to kill anyone.

01:17:28.000 So Trump is starting to show in certain aspects you can't do.

01:17:31.000 And the way Trump negotiates these things is he sets up these convoluted activities.

01:17:33.000 I don't want to protest Trump.

01:17:34.000 He's going to be on board.

01:17:37.000 Well, I'm saying the way that Trump sets up these things is he sets up these trade deals.

01:17:41.000 So then it makes it much more difficult for these countries to, again, like dissolve their relationships with each other because they're...

01:17:45.000 So economically?

01:17:46.000 Yeah, he's trying to develop economic cooperation.

01:17:48.000 I think that's better.

01:17:49.000 I think it's way better than George Bush.

01:17:50.000 George Bush's solution is just like bomb and then hope for the best.

01:17:53.000 Exactly.

01:17:54.000 Because George Bush's situation, what does it do?

01:17:56.000 It creates the military-industrial complex to be wealthy, the billionaire class, desire, become richer, and my poor old Uber drivers on to work 60, 70 hours.

01:18:05.000 I would love for it to be peaceful and for it to be emergent where everybody's like, you know what?

01:18:09.000 Republicanism is the best.

01:18:11.000 I like free speech.

01:18:12.000 We're going to overthrow our governments and do it.

01:18:13.000 I just don't, you know, you have a totalitarian system preventing that, like the CCP that wants, you know, total authority or whatever.

01:18:21.000 How's that going to happen peacefully?

01:18:22.000 And also, when you go in and you...

01:18:24.000 What do you mean?

01:18:25.000 How would the Chinese people overthrow the Communist Party and take their country back peacefully?

01:18:25.000 How...

01:18:29.000 No, they wouldn't.

01:18:30.000 I don't think they would either.

01:18:30.000 I don't get it.

01:18:31.000 I don't think it can happen peacefully.

01:18:33.000 No, but why would they want to?

01:18:34.000 The country is doing so well. 1.00

01:18:36.000 So that they can say, fuck the government and not get that bullet in their head. 1.00

01:18:39.000 Ooh, yeah, that's an overstatement. 1.00

01:18:41.000 No, no, they couldn't.

01:18:43.000 I think that is a significant issue, but they are doing well.

01:18:43.000 I'm not pro-China.

01:18:46.000 Well, they have the LEDs on the side of the building.

01:18:48.000 It's pretty cool.

01:18:50.000 If you look at the military advancement, American military is still the best, by far.

01:18:54.000 But if you look at their technological advancement now, because basically they came to the U.S., they stole a lot of U.S. technological secrets.

01:19:00.000 Took them back, but now what's happening?

01:19:01.000 Now you're making arguments for deportations.

01:19:03.000 Sorry?

01:19:04.000 Now you're making arguments for deportations.

01:19:05.000 Well, there's actually a guy that just got sentenced to 20 years.

01:19:08.000 I've been against CCP infiltration.

01:19:10.000 I've been talking about it for 10 years.

01:19:11.000 Awesome.

01:19:12.000 Well, guys, just went to jail for 20 years for giving secrets to China.

01:19:15.000 Let me finish the question, Sula.

01:19:16.000 You said doing it peacefully.

01:19:18.000 So if you take someone's food supply away, technically that's peaceful according to the CIA because there's no kinetic violence.

01:19:24.000 Of course, then they start to starve and die.

01:19:26.000 You've economically strangled and killed them. 1.00

01:19:29.000 True. 0.98

01:19:29.000 That could be a peaceful way that we take over the world. 0.98

01:19:32.000 Technically.

01:19:33.000 Or I wouldn't agree with that.

01:19:35.000 Because that's oppressive.

01:19:36.000 It is oppressive, but it's peaceful.

01:19:38.000 So it's non-violent.

01:19:38.000 Oh, yeah.

01:19:39.000 Yeah, I appreciate you saying that's all.

01:19:41.000 It has to be peaceful and non-oppressive.

01:19:43.000 That's a big glass of Phil I'm open to talking about that.

01:19:46.000 And because I feel like you are changing your stance a little bit, because I think in your heart, you know that as human beings, we are evolved.

01:19:53.000 We should be able to solve our problems.

01:19:55.000 Well, just let me make a point.

01:19:57.000 This is why, the fact is, we've been desensitized to violence.

01:20:00.000 We've seen 9-11.

01:20:01.000 We've seen Charlie's death.

01:20:03.000 So now we think it's okay because we've seen other people die.

01:20:05.000 But in a real, you know, utopia society, and I know we're never going to have a utopia, we wouldn't be killing each other over lines in the sand.

01:20:12.000 Humans, like, we have two parts of us.

01:20:14.000 This is the person, the name.

01:20:15.000 That's why the laws are not.

01:20:17.000 But then we have the animal that needs to eat.

01:20:18.000 And when that thing starts to suffer, it goes haywire.

01:20:22.000 And we have to plan for that.

01:20:23.000 And that's where military force comes in.

01:20:25.000 Well, people also just have like people, depending on where you are from in the world, you just have completely different perspectives on morality too.

01:20:31.000 Like morality is universal, but people have differentiating views on it.

01:20:35.000 And that's why immigration is so flawed because you're just bringing people into a country that just have a different conception of morality and different conception of ethics. 0.98

01:20:41.000 And then it breaks apart.

01:20:43.000 Would you say Switzerland is a country that's ran well?

01:20:46.000 Yeah, Switzerland.

01:20:47.000 The United States can't be Switzerland.

01:20:49.000 Because it's a total.

01:20:49.000 Why not, though?

01:20:50.000 Switzerland is like three European people groups that are neighbors.

01:20:54.000 So you're telling me America cannot copy Switzerland?

01:20:56.000 No, it's impossible.

01:20:57.000 No, Switzerland's not aware of it.

01:20:58.000 That's because you guys are.

01:20:59.000 And that's propaganda.

01:21:00.000 You guys have fallen for war propaganda.

01:21:02.000 It's like when you watch Savior Clarvell Ryan, the owner, like, oh, Switzerland is only Switzerland because the world is a violent place.

01:21:08.000 If everyone were Switzerland, then no one would have to go. 0.95

01:21:11.000 If everything was Switzerland, especially if you did everyone's self-interested.

01:21:11.000 Yeah, it would be great.

01:21:15.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:21:16.000 The idea that we're desensitized to violence, this is a totally novel period in human society.

01:21:22.000 There's people that were drafted.

01:21:22.000 What are you talking about?

01:21:23.000 Vietnam was incredibly violent.

01:21:25.000 Every era of the American history has been violent.

01:21:27.000 The Civil War is violent.

01:21:30.000 American history was not violent.

01:21:31.000 That's the point that I'm making.

01:21:33.000 Like, we are less violent now in this point in human history than human beings have ever been in all of human history.

01:21:42.000 In the last hundred years.

01:21:43.000 Well, in the last hundred years, because of governments, probably 200 million.

01:21:47.000 But the point that I'm making is the average.

01:21:51.000 The average person in the Western world is far less likely to engage with violence than other people in other points in history ever.

01:22:04.000 Absolutely.

01:22:05.000 we're definitely like because of because of industrialized war not because not because Not because there's more war.

01:22:11.000 Like, war was a constant prior to World War II.

01:22:16.000 It's been a constant throughout all of human history.

01:22:18.000 And war existed before human beings.

01:22:21.000 We're conditioned to less battlefield deaths.

01:22:23.000 But as far as the culture of violence, I would agree that we are desensitized to it.

01:22:27.000 I mean, because you look across the West, like what we tolerate, abortion is just murder at the highest degree that's just occurring.

01:22:34.000 We're just battery farming it.

01:22:36.000 You have like just cities are just, we just accept like insane levels of violent crime.

01:22:41.000 I mean, like in the UK, you have like these grooming games going everywhere.

01:22:43.000 So it's like, no matter where you look, we are just conditioned to accept just like carnage, just right below our very noses.

01:22:50.000 So it's like, okay, it doesn't manifest on the battlefield, but the West is still an exceptionally, we still accept an exceptional level of violence.

01:22:57.000 I think the rooming guys are talking about that some propaganda.

01:23:00.000 I think that we know the problem.

01:23:02.000 No, no, so what it is is there is grooming gangs in the UK, right?

01:23:06.000 And there is grooming gangs in specific areas, which were largely Muslim and Pakistani, Rotherham being one, Rochdale being one, Talford being another one, and maybe one or two others.

01:23:14.000 But if you look at it holistically in the entirety of the UK, when it came to, I don't know if you like to say the P word, the P word, if you look at the Peter and PDF.

01:23:26.000 PDF and abusing women, you know what I mean by that. 0.85

01:23:30.000 Then if you look at the entirety of the UK, it's actually proportionate.

01:23:33.000 Well, I want to say this point, it's actually, this is why America, this is why I have problems and I love this country, but this is why I do have problems with the country. 0.91

01:23:38.000 And you might get offended at this, but during the war in the Middle East, there's a thing called the Bakabazi Boys, where there's men in Afghanistan, where they have sex with little boys. 0.95

01:23:47.000 They'll be their little servant. 0.99

01:23:50.000 They have sex with children. 0.99

01:23:51.000 And the United States military walked in on this.

01:23:53.000 And instead of killing, instead of hurting the PDF file, what they did was they protected him because they were our allies.

01:23:59.000 So we have instances where our government is not only protecting Jeffrey Epstein right now, but we've actually protected pedophiles in the Middle East.

01:24:07.000 That's what's happened in the UK with the grooming gangs.

01:24:09.000 The civil service just completely justified.

01:24:11.000 I'm anti-violence, but if somebody does deserve that violence done to them, I would say it would be somebody that harms children.

01:24:16.000 And yet our country protects pedophiles.

01:24:18.000 No, but they didn't justify.

01:24:19.000 What was there was serious failures amongst the government.

01:24:23.000 And this happened throughout the board.

01:24:24.000 So for example, now, like Tommy Robinson, if you look at it, I did a thread of like 100 people that were either his friends, connected to him, had the same position as him, or was part of his group that all partook in this PDF and all that kind of stuff.

01:24:37.000 So what I'm trying to say is, when you look at it, of course, there was massive failures within the institutional level in terms of protecting any of those children or women.

01:24:45.000 Well, yeah, but like, I mean, even in the, like, it was the Jay Roberts report where it's like, even in that, the Jay Robert report, that was the report that exposed in Rotherham, like, the massive grooming, levels of grooming that was going on.

01:24:57.000 It was like 1,400 kids that were taken advantage of.

01:25:00.000 And the police and other civil servants were literally afraid to report it because they want to be perceived as Islamophobic.

01:25:06.000 No, but that's my point I'm trying to say, that you're right about Rotherham.

01:25:09.000 But I'm saying if you look at the UK as a whole, if this issue and this problem, because what you're basically saying is, I have an issue with Rotherham because it was Muslims, which is, but I'm saying I have a problem with every single town, irrespective if it was Muslim, Christian, Jew, white. 0.94

01:25:24.000 So I think where we differ is I'm saying I have a problem with all of them doing it.

01:25:26.000 You're focused on it.

01:25:27.000 I totally agree.

01:25:28.000 I'm saying failures happen across the board, but you're saying I only care about Rotherham.

01:25:28.000 I'm just saying.

01:25:31.000 Well, it's like saying, okay, instead of just addressing like aggravated assault, theft, these sorts of things, we should just focus on the same thing.

01:25:37.000 No, I'm talking about PDF.

01:25:39.000 I'm talking about PDF.

01:25:39.000 Well, I agree, but I'm just saying there's a difference between like an institutionalized like system of grooming gangs.

01:25:45.000 That needs to be broken up.

01:25:46.000 And that is a separate issue from like, yeah, like pedophilia writ large.

01:25:50.000 No, no.

01:25:50.000 So it was institutionalized.

01:25:52.000 It was happening across the board.

01:25:53.000 Now, in terms of those specific grooming gangs, what Tommy Robinson did was he created a new category where he said, if it's three people are higher doing the abuse, then we'll create a new category.

01:26:03.000 And it'll be for only over 14 year olds.

01:26:06.000 And it'll only be because they want to take the children out because that becomes just proportionally not them.

01:26:10.000 And we want to take the children out because we don't care about pedophilia. 0.76

01:26:13.000 And we want to do it where it's three or more because we don't want to care about two or one.

01:26:17.000 So what he did was create this fake category to maybe say, look, everybody falls into that category. 0.86

01:26:21.000 And I'm saying that's ridiculous.

01:26:22.000 You abuse someone, you do it, you know, whether it's a PDF and it's someone, and I think we've done it to children's worst, but obviously may disagree. 0.95

01:26:28.000 But the thing is, all of that is bad.

01:26:31.000 All of that was covered up in an industry level.

01:26:33.000 And all of it should be called out, irrespective of who it is.

01:26:35.000 And I think this has been done intentionally in order to cause like wars between people.

01:26:40.000 Well, I think it's just like there's a difference between, again, like just your, that sounds weird, but like your everyday sort of grooming situation, which happens all the time.

01:26:48.000 There's no question about that.

01:26:50.000 And actual groups, actual roving bands that have operated for dozens of years.

01:26:54.000 So you think, like, for example, let's say One guy abused a five-year-old.

01:27:00.000 Right.

01:27:01.000 That's less worse than, let's say, three guys who abused a 16-year-old.

01:27:05.000 No, I'm saying those are two separate things.

01:27:07.000 I mean, that warrants execution.

01:27:09.000 There's no question about that.

01:27:09.000 Which one?

01:27:10.000 Well, both.

01:27:11.000 So you said they're both the same.

01:27:13.000 Well, the actual individual instance, but I'm saying when you have gangs, like so his category of gang is three or higher.

01:27:19.000 So I'm getting again three guys within a specific community as well.

01:27:23.000 Okay.

01:27:23.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:27:23.000 So three Pakistani communities.

01:27:24.000 Let's do a community thing. 0.85

01:27:25.000 Three Pakistani guys who abuse a 16-year-old and two white guys who abuse a five-year-old. 0.95

01:27:32.000 Which one's worse? 0.99

01:27:33.000 They're both equally bad.

01:27:34.000 Exactly.

01:27:35.000 That's my point.

01:27:35.000 But he doesn't believe that.

01:27:37.000 No, we're saying I'm talking about specific grooming gangs.

01:27:39.000 And it's like because we've brought massive amounts of Pakistanis into the UK. 0.79

01:27:43.000 We wouldn't have these if it weren't for the mass migration to the UK. 0.99

01:27:46.000 So what you're saying is...

01:27:48.000 There's not grooming gangs of, like, scousers running around.

01:27:51.000 I just explained to you.

01:27:53.000 Professionally, it's all the same.

01:27:54.000 Why do Muslim women real quick? 1.00

01:27:56.000 Yes, it is. 1.00

01:27:56.000 No, Pakistanis are outsized in sexual crimes in the United States. 1.00

01:27:59.000 No, it's not. 0.99

01:27:59.000 No, they're not. 0.99

01:28:00.000 No, they're not.

01:28:01.000 I've actually done the evidence to prove it.

01:28:02.000 Because I'm saying, if you say in Rotherham, then it's the case.

01:28:06.000 But for the entirety of the United Kingdom, it's not.

01:28:07.000 We just need to pull up the data because you just said yes, no.

01:28:12.000 And this is going outside Islam.

01:28:15.000 Why do women have to cover their face? 1.00

01:28:18.000 Why do they have to cover their face?

01:28:20.000 Why do they have to cover their face, Suleiman?

01:28:23.000 But let's do what this is.

01:28:26.000 So no one can see it.

01:28:27.000 Well, no.

01:28:30.000 Because it's a sexual thing.

01:28:31.000 No, no.

01:28:32.000 So the reason women, first of all, I don't agree with covering the face. 1.00

01:28:35.000 So I think it's not within Islam.

01:28:37.000 But those who believe it, so I don't believe in it, by the way.

01:28:39.000 But those Muslims who do believe in it, like, why don't women have the freedom of choice to wear it? 0.87

01:28:44.000 Well, I guess if a woman wants to wear it, I think they can. 1.00

01:28:46.000 I mean, if they want to choose to wear it.

01:28:47.000 But my point is, there's a reason why, because in some cultures, if a woman does that, they They're saying that the woman is asking for it by even showing her face. 0.61

01:28:56.000 So I think culturally that is.

01:28:58.000 What are the topics?

01:28:59.000 I'm trying to get data, though.

01:29:01.000 Suleiman, do you think that Islam is due for a reformation?

01:29:06.000 Oh, that's America though, yeah.

01:29:07.000 Yeah, this is the U.S.

01:29:08.000 I mean, and also like the thing with Rotherham specifically, it was like.

01:29:11.000 So you remember you're saying one specific town, but yeah.

01:29:13.000 Well, I mean, that's just the biggest, most high-profile case.

01:29:16.000 And this was the case with some of the other, like Rochdale and the other gangs, is the Pakistani grooming gangs were targeting white children. 0.68

01:29:22.000 And then there's no instances of white grooming gangs to begin with, but then let alone white grooming games targeting like Pakistani girls. 0.98

01:29:28.000 Okay, so first of all, there was white grooming gangs.

01:29:30.000 This is what I'm trying to tell you.

01:29:31.000 And the second thing is...

01:29:33.000 Even if there was, which I'd say, we would have found out, but were they targeting Pakistani girls?

01:29:33.000 Were they targeted...

01:29:37.000 So it's like, no, these Pakistanis came here and then they had this weird sexual fixation where they were. 1.00

01:29:41.000 No, no, that wasn't it. 0.51

01:29:41.000 What actually happened, I don't think you read the report. 0.51

01:29:43.000 So what actually happened was, unfortunately, what these evil people were doing, these Pakistanis, was they were going to, you know, people who were in social services and people who'd lost their pet, like people who went with their parents maybe because of drugs or whatever it may be. 1.00

01:29:56.000 So they were going for these vulnerable 14, 15, 16, 17 girls.

01:30:00.000 Yeah, like people who were in social services.

01:30:02.000 Like, I don't know if you have the same thing in the US, but in the UK.

01:30:05.000 It's the CPS here.

01:30:06.000 Where the kids are taken away and they're living in childcare.

01:30:08.000 Yeah, protective service.

01:30:09.000 So they were basically there.

01:30:09.000 Yeah, that's it.

01:30:11.000 And then what that is, is those social services, largely speaking, it is white girls. 1.00

01:30:15.000 And that's why they were targeting them.

01:30:17.000 Yes.

01:30:17.000 So the Pakistanis were, again, the results was it was primarily white girls.

01:30:22.000 Victimized by Pakistani grooming gangs. 0.94

01:30:23.000 And the other one was white guys victimizing white girls because, again, they were easy access.

01:30:27.000 Yeah, again, I don't know of any instances of this occurring.

01:30:31.000 I mean, if you have, I'm happy to look it up if you have any questions.

01:30:32.000 Yeah, real quick, put my name in.

01:30:34.000 Put my name in on X. Go Tom Robinson.

01:30:36.000 You'll get 100 people on the 10th.

01:30:38.000 I thought there's a third party.

01:30:40.000 Yeah, it's not the abuse.

01:30:41.000 It's got the data.

01:30:42.000 Totate, though.

01:30:43.000 Do you agree with Donald Trump that the Epstein files are a total hoax?

01:30:48.000 the epstein files were real but i just don't i think all the why would he say it was a hoax Because it's just politics.

01:30:54.000 I think the reality is any incriminating information on the Epstein files, there's none.

01:30:58.000 Because any powerful people, like, do you think Bill Clinton did this or whoever did this?

01:31:02.000 And then they don't release all the information related to it.

01:31:05.000 Well, I think there's evidence.

01:31:06.000 I think with any crime in this modern era, there's always going to be a residue of a crime.

01:31:10.000 Well, the problem is that you can kill the people that would testify.

01:31:13.000 Well, they couldn't.

01:31:14.000 You know, Hillary Clinton has a lot of people that are associated with her that have died under mysterious circumstances.

01:31:19.000 So I'm just saying.

01:31:20.000 Well, you think the Epstein files are fake?

01:31:22.000 Oh, well, what's your position?

01:31:22.000 No.

01:31:24.000 My position is that any incriminating information is probably gone by now.

01:31:27.000 You think it's just destroyed by the FBI?

01:31:29.000 See, that's where I disagree because I get frustrated when people tell me that, you know, Jeffrey Epstein, you know, killed himself, even though he was like at the vending machine, you know, buying M ⁇ Ms or I-B-4.

01:31:38.000 I think that, you know, he just met with his attorney, his attorney said he was in great spirits.

01:31:42.000 So I just think it's odd that a billionaire that probably did have inside information and probably could have been a witness to these people dies by killing himself.

01:31:50.000 I think that, like you said, they would cover their tracks and they would kill him.

01:31:54.000 But yet we have people that lead the FBI or leaving the FBI telling us, oh, no, the official story is right.

01:31:58.000 Like, do you believe the official story?

01:31:59.000 Do you think he hung himself by jumping off the second story of a...

01:32:02.000 No.

01:32:02.000 No, I'm the first person.

01:32:03.000 Yeah.

01:32:04.000 I think, especially the Trump-led DOJ fumbled the Epstein.

01:32:06.000 I mean, they couldn't have fumbled it any worse.

01:32:08.000 They gave those fake binders. 0.98

01:32:09.000 So it just sucks because it gives me the impression that they're protecting pedophiles. 0.97

01:32:12.000 And people think, like, oh, Pizza Gate is some QAnon thing. 0.97

01:32:15.000 No, it wasn't.

01:32:16.000 These were the wiki leaks when we got Hillary Clinton's emails and we see all these weird emails about pizza and maps and just a lot of weird stuff.

01:32:23.000 James Elephantis, maybe he wasn't doing a child sexuring out of a pizza shop, but they were doing weird stuff on islands with children.

01:32:30.000 And I just get a little frustrated that they're not going to give us transparency because it feels like they're protecting pedophiles.

01:32:35.000 Do you know how young the youngest victim was by any chance?

01:32:38.000 Well, if you're going to do the Nick Fuentes argument that they're like pre-teens, I heard this. 0.98

01:32:41.000 Yes, Precubescent is pedo. 0.70

01:32:43.000 Otherwise, it's hepophilia, I believe. 0.97

01:32:45.000 But I heard this rumor, and you know, is this true or not, that people would ask Jeffrey Epstein that was in his circles his favorite sexual conquest.

01:32:52.000 And supposedly, Jean-Luc Brunel, who was a modeling talent agent that had, you know, a bunch of models, is that Jeffrey Epstein would tell people that his favorite sexual conquest was how he slept with three 11-year-old triplets and then flew them back.

01:33:03.000 And that's that, you can look that up.

01:33:05.000 That's not slept with.

01:33:06.000 I don't know if it's.

01:33:07.000 Whatever.

01:33:08.000 You know what I mean?

01:33:09.000 He just did the deed with three 11-year-olds.

01:33:10.000 He abused them.

01:33:12.000 And yeah, I just get frustrated because it's so obvious that there are important people that are doing stuff.

01:33:17.000 And maybe they have to do it.

01:33:19.000 Maybe, you know, it's part to get in the club.

01:33:21.000 You have to do it.

01:33:21.000 You know, you have to touch a kid or whatever it is.

01:33:24.000 But we're not going to get transparency.

01:33:26.000 And I love Donald Trump, but he campaigned on transparency.

01:33:29.000 I'm going to give you transparency.

01:33:31.000 And then they totally flipped the script.

01:33:32.000 It's just making me kind of lose faith in ever actually finding the truth. 0.97

01:33:36.000 And that sucks. 0.90

01:33:37.000 It's the one ring. 0.90

01:33:38.000 They can't, I mean, they can get rid of it, but it's the data so valuable.

01:33:42.000 All that blackmail data.

01:33:43.000 They're using it right now, I think.

01:33:45.000 That's part of it, probably.

01:33:46.000 Wonder who it's for?

01:33:47.000 It's probably keeping Trump alive.

01:33:49.000 Well, I would say that, you know how we do want to blame everything on Israel? 0.77

01:33:53.000 But if you look at Mossad and you look at our CIA, and you're going to say Mossad controls the CIA, but they work in concert together.

01:33:58.000 They share all information.

01:34:00.000 As a matter of fact, they fought because supposedly Israel held information from America and vice versa.

01:34:04.000 So when both agencies are basically tied together like that, same within the US.

01:34:09.000 How do they work together?

01:34:10.000 I'm saying, so they protect their own agency as well because there's probably the CIA involved in Jeffrey Epstein as well.

01:34:16.000 So we've got instances of Israeli spies stealing American secrets and either giving it to Israel or taking Russia.

01:34:22.000 But there's a website.

01:34:24.000 Hold on, there's one thing that I want to put in there.

01:34:27.000 The idea that it's only Israel stealing from the United States, that is a naive perspective.

01:34:32.000 Every country does everything they can to spy on every other country.

01:34:36.000 They thought they're the greatest ally, a special relationship.

01:34:39.000 I don't care.

01:34:40.000 Every country does everything they can to spy on every other country.

01:34:45.000 So that's why it's pertinent that you don't make claims that a specific country has a special relationship or they are given special access because when you do, then you're right.

01:34:55.000 Yeah, I disagree with that.

01:34:57.000 I think that, and not that I think that Israel should be a special country.

01:34:59.000 I do think the United States, the UK, Canada, New Zealand, and Australia have a unique relationship because we all spawn from the UK.

01:35:07.000 So I think that the United States is the Five Eyes is what they call it.

01:35:11.000 English speaking countries.

01:35:12.000 Yeah, I think that English speaking countries.

01:35:14.000 Israel is not part of the Five Eyes.

01:35:16.000 That's exactly what I said.

01:35:17.000 But the point that I'm making.

01:35:18.000 Oh, you said not Israel.

01:35:19.000 Not Israel. 0.99

01:35:20.000 The five countries that basically respond from the United States.

01:35:24.000 No, because in my opinion, the United States is actually the fruition of what was started with the Magna Carta in the UK.

01:35:29.000 I mean, that's fine.

01:35:30.000 So I think that the United States.

01:35:31.000 But the interests have changed so much now.

01:35:34.000 Yeah, definitely.

01:35:35.000 But I still think that the United States and the countries that, you know, basically are sister countries or brother countries, whatever you want to call them, I think that we do have a special relationship that should be held above all other countries in the world.

01:35:48.000 Anyhow.

01:35:49.000 Well, we do let them have nuclear weapons, and I think that's kind of the UK, they actually kind of, you know, if I'm really going to go crazy, people are going to call me Candace Owens.

01:35:56.000 I think nuclear weapons are totally fake.

01:35:57.000 The idea that they split the atom and this big bomb goes off.

01:36:00.000 And if you look up Hiroshima and Nagasaki, you can basically tell that those were firebombs. 0.77

01:36:04.000 You can look at it.

01:36:05.000 And there's a lot of documents.

01:36:06.000 So what do you think the Castle Bravo test was?

01:36:09.000 It was fake.

01:36:10.000 Why did a house fall down, but the car is sitting there perfectly?

01:36:13.000 That wasn't the Castle Bridge.

01:36:13.000 I'm just saying the footage that they gave us.

01:36:15.000 I understand.

01:36:16.000 I understand what you're talking about.

01:36:18.000 That was edited.

01:36:19.000 I'm not making the argument that it wasn't.

01:36:19.000 I understand.

01:36:21.000 All of a sudden, everything's different.

01:36:23.000 There are multiple tests where there's footage.

01:36:25.000 I'm saying we have big bombs, but it's funny because Donald Trump, he's dropped the Moab, the mother of all bombs, which is arguably the second biggest bomb besides a nuclear weapon.

01:36:32.000 It just seems like in order to scare the civilians, and this is what they tell us in school, and they told me this.

01:36:37.000 I don't know if you guys agreed, but maybe Tate was in school sooner than all of us.

01:36:41.000 But they told me in history class that we have enough nuclear weapons to blow up the earth 10 times over.

01:36:46.000 That's just provably false.

01:36:47.000 It doesn't matter if we set up every bomb that we had, the earth is going to outlive humanity, and we can't just blow up the world like that.

01:36:52.000 That's just fake news.

01:36:54.000 So they use the threat of nuclear weapons to scare us.

01:36:57.000 And the idea that you split the atom and everything blows up, I actually think he goes, it's such a lie.

01:37:02.000 It goes back to like the Bible.

01:37:03.000 It's kind of like how they're trying to, you know, play like their kids.

01:37:05.000 Do you believe in atoms?

01:37:06.000 I believe in atoms, but I don't believe if you split an atom, it causes this mushroom cloud accidental.

01:37:10.000 So you think that Einstein is wrong?

01:37:12.000 I think Einstein had some crazy theories.

01:37:14.000 I think some was right.

01:37:15.000 He talked about the ether.

01:37:16.000 Now, you probably don't believe in the ether.

01:37:18.000 He talked about the ether, and now that's been totally taken out of science.

01:37:21.000 So I think there is energy that we cannot see around us.

01:37:24.000 And yeah, so I think Einstein was right about some stuff, probably wrong about other stuff.

01:37:27.000 But the idea that the Manhattan Project, they just built this bomb. 0.58

01:37:31.000 Do you think that basically all matter and energy are the same thing?

01:37:34.000 They're just different manifestations of the same thing.

01:37:38.000 That's the question again.

01:37:38.000 Do I think matter?

01:37:39.000 Do you think matter and energy are the same thing?

01:37:41.000 Because the essential argument in E equals MC squared is that matter and energy are actually the same thing.

01:37:47.000 It's just they're different manifestations.

01:37:49.000 I think matter has energy, but I don't know if it, yeah, I mean, I guess I could say that energy has matter because if there is an ether, like we can't see it, but there's oxygen in the air.

01:37:57.000 There's stuff that is, you know, the ether.

01:38:00.000 Now natural science has taken it away.

01:38:00.000 He believed in it.

01:38:02.000 It's like, what is it?

01:38:03.000 They say, what are the fire, rain?

01:38:06.000 What are the elements?

01:38:08.000 Water, metal.

01:38:09.000 But there's really six ether, and they took that off.

01:38:11.000 According to Einstein, you can look this up.

01:38:12.000 He thought ether was the six elements.

01:38:14.000 Nassim Herrmann seems to believe it's the vacuum.

01:38:16.000 He calls it the vacuum of space-time itself.

01:38:18.000 It is equally dense.

01:38:19.000 So I think Einstein was right that there is what we think is nothing is actually something, even though we don't necessarily classically determine it with our tools yet.

01:38:28.000 So in 1905, the special theory of relativity, Einstein rejected the classical ether as unnecessary and undetectable.

01:38:33.000 Well, he changed his opinion on it when it became not scientifically accepted.

01:38:38.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:38:39.000 I just want to figure out how happened is essentially when he says when Einstein said ether, what he's talking about is space-time.

01:38:47.000 So the ether was thought of as, but now we just call it the field, right?

01:38:52.000 So things that you're saying.

01:38:53.000 So we agree that there is an electromagnetic field.

01:38:56.000 Well, no, it's not electromagnetic.

01:38:57.000 It's basically like, so you can go forward, backward, up or down, left, right?

01:39:00.000 That's a field, right?

01:39:01.000 That's that's talking about an energy that we cannot see.

01:39:05.000 No, he said, he says, he says, however, at least this is what the AI says.

01:39:09.000 However, in his general theory of relativity, Einstein reintroduced the concept of an ether, not as a material medium, but as space-time itself endowed with physical properties.

01:39:17.000 So basically space, you know how like.

01:39:19.000 Like they're saying space-time.

01:39:20.000 I understand that, but well, I would just argue that we're all in the ether.

01:39:24.000 I had a fact check on nuclear bombs.

01:39:25.000 This internet says nuclear bombs work by releasing massive amounts of energy through nuclear reactions, either fission or fusion.

01:39:32.000 Yeah.

01:39:33.000 So I guess that's what the, I mean, the evidence that nuclear bombs are.

01:39:37.000 Listen, the evidence that nuclear bombs are real is stars.

01:39:39.000 I mean, the internet said it.

01:39:41.000 Stars?

01:39:43.000 Stars are that it's possible at the very least because stars fuse together atoms into heavier elements.

01:39:49.000 They fuse hydrogen in the middle.

01:39:50.000 If the nuclear bombs are real, Israel would have already dropped. 0.54

01:39:52.000 When a neutron hits the nuclear body.

01:39:54.000 If that's your evidence, then we can move on.

01:39:57.000 Do we have colors today?

01:39:58.000 Let's dig into it.

01:39:58.000 Yeah, we do.

01:39:59.000 We got the Discord.

01:40:00.000 We got some great chats from you guys in the Discord watching live right now.

01:40:04.000 Oh, this is rough.

01:40:05.000 Okay, I like this.

01:40:06.000 Question for you, Suleiman.

01:40:07.000 What is your perspective on abortion?

01:40:09.000 If you are pro-choice, do you believe it's a bad thing, but women need the option because of their situation?

01:40:15.000 Yeah, I'm anti-abortion, so I've got the Jewish position on it. 0.92

01:40:18.000 I'm like full-on against it.

01:40:20.000 Well, Margaret Sanger created Planned Parenthood and she was Jewish. 0.99

01:40:23.000 Oh, damn, sure. 0.99

01:40:24.000 I guess they do both sides. 0.99

01:40:25.000 But anyway, but I'm talking about in terms of like the theological, the actual legal position.

01:40:29.000 So I, yeah, I believe it's like life from conception.

01:40:33.000 Yeah, I agree, too.

01:40:33.000 Based.

01:40:34.000 I think abortion is murder. 0.96

01:40:35.000 And what is it?

01:40:36.000 I saw this viral TikTok where they were talking about, you know, how many people in Gen Z had died and they asked everybody.

01:40:42.000 30%.

01:40:43.000 Yeah, it was 30%.

01:40:45.000 Suleiman, the Christian-Muslim Alliance is back. 0.56

01:40:47.000 Yeah, it's back.

01:40:48.000 Believe it or not, there's a lot of similarities with Christianity and Islam.

01:40:53.000 All right, let's not get crazy.

01:40:55.000 Real quick, Islam speaks of Jesus very highly.

01:40:57.000 They don't consider him just a magician like some other religions do.

01:41:02.000 And so the fact that they respect Jesus, I think that Orthodox Protestant.

01:41:09.000 Evangelical.

01:41:10.000 Kitschy, evangelical, yeah. 0.88

01:41:13.000 Listen, the amount of LARPers.

01:41:16.000 Like, I'm an OG American.

01:41:17.000 The amount of abortion that we've that have been performed in the United States dwarfs the amount of children sacrificed by the Aztecs.

01:41:24.000 Yeah, that's what I pointed out.

01:41:27.000 So the Spanish literally exterminated the Aztecs from the face of the globe for a child sacrifice level of about 2%.

01:41:33.000 Meanwhile, like in Britain, not to pick on Britain here, but in Britain, a third of all children conceived in Britain are aborted.

01:41:39.000 So a magnitude higher degree, the Spanish literally exterminated the civilization. 1.00

01:41:44.000 What's the percentage in the U.S.?

01:41:46.000 I think it's about 25% as well.

01:41:47.000 2025.

01:41:48.000 You're saying one out of every four conceptions is terminated?

01:41:50.000 I want every three.

01:41:51.000 I think it's even more.

01:41:52.000 This is last year's number.

01:41:53.000 It's in the UK.

01:41:54.000 Then America is one border.

01:41:54.000 UK is one third.

01:41:56.000 And then it's projected to hit half in Britain at this rate in the next 20 years.

01:41:59.000 Are those including miscarriage abortions?

01:42:02.000 No, these are just abortion. 1.00

01:42:03.000 Those are terminations of pregnancy.

01:42:06.000 Those are considered involuntary terminations, involuntary abortions.

01:42:09.000 I don't know what the number is on the.

01:42:10.000 This is just talking about gone into an abortion clinic and aborted the children.

01:42:13.000 Remember, UK has almost become like an atheistic country.

01:42:15.000 It's grim.

01:42:17.000 It used to be 75% Christian.

01:42:18.000 And the last census, which was five years ago, went down to 45%.

01:42:22.000 Church of England's asleep at the wheel, too.

01:42:23.000 They basically all turned atheist.

01:42:25.000 There has been a little resurgence of Christianity in America.

01:42:28.000 In America, for sure.

01:42:29.000 But Europe is not.

01:42:30.000 Europe's conception.

01:42:31.000 It's just got to be real Christianity. 0.94

01:42:33.000 I believe in it.

01:42:35.000 Like you abide by the tenets of the faith, the virtues.

01:42:38.000 Actually, embody the seven virtues of Catholicism, humility.

01:42:42.000 Well, Ian, this is the problem: I think that modern Christianity has been hijacked because if you look at, even though that's not in the, you know, they don't consider it a book of the Bible, but the Book of Thomas.

01:42:50.000 And even though it says in the Bible, in order to follow Jesus, you had to get into heaven.

01:42:55.000 You would give every basically Jesus had a lot of socialism views because you have to give up everything to follow him.

01:42:59.000 He even said it's easier for a camel to get through the eye of a needle than a rich man to get into heaven.

01:43:03.000 So, what we've done now is we have a lot of these prosperity gospels.

01:43:07.000 Druski had a great sketch.

01:43:09.000 You should pull up the Druski sketch.

01:43:10.000 We should watch that.

01:43:11.000 And modern-day Christianity has been hijacked.

01:43:13.000 It is not what Jesus taught.

01:43:15.000 It's an it's exactly, I would say that it's the opposite of what Jesus taught.

01:43:19.000 I thought Islam also, and this would be interesting to get your take, had been hijacked at some point in the history of the faith by government and it got twisted.

01:43:27.000 It used to be let's watch this video.

01:43:29.000 This is like, this is why Christianity, and this is what it has become. 0.97

01:43:33.000 And sadly, this is not what Jesus taught.

01:43:35.000 This is the opposite of Jesus.

01:43:37.000 But there is a church like this, multiple churches in every city in America.

01:43:41.000 So, let's watch.

01:43:42.000 Get ready for the revolution.

01:43:53.000 I'm going to have Wanda stand up here. 1.00

01:43:55.000 Wanda, please.

01:43:56.000 Wanda told us earlier this month that she could not have a baby anymore. 0.97

01:44:00.000 So I impregnated her with the word of God. 0.91

01:44:05.000 I'm going to impregnate everyone with the word of God. 0.85

01:44:11.000 You're going to get pregnant with the word of God. 0.97

01:44:13.000 You're going to get pregnant with the word of God. 0.97

01:44:21.000 Somebody in the congregation has to be aware of the people who are like the crazy world can be very dangerous.

01:44:26.000 Where a bunch of people can get it.

01:44:28.000 And I walk in the blood of the vision that's doing it, but it's just give them some pain.

01:44:33.000 I'm a Christian first.

01:44:35.000 And I walk in the blood of Nathan.

01:44:38.000 Give them some pain.

01:44:42.000 But I just don't think this is what Jesus is taught.

01:44:44.000 Not according to what he says.

01:44:46.000 Islam has been made. 1.00

01:44:47.000 I don't know enough about it.

01:44:48.000 It got taken, used by government for purposes just like the one who wants to holy Roman ever. 0.95

01:44:53.000 And then they got militarized all over.

01:44:56.000 So I don't think Islam militarized, but the thing is, I mean, my opinion is too controversial on this.

01:45:00.000 Muslims are not going to like it. 1.00

01:45:01.000 But I do think that Islam was going to get probably getting canceled.

01:45:06.000 But I do think Islam was Judified a while ago.

01:45:08.000 Yeah.

01:45:08.000 Judaified?

01:45:09.000 Yeah.

01:45:10.000 I've been saying for years that Islam is Judaified. 0.73

01:45:13.000 It is.

01:45:14.000 I mean, if you're really looking to, there are a lot of connections.

01:45:18.000 So I believe that when it comes to original Islam, whether it's the Quran, it's not. 0.98

01:45:23.000 But I think all the time, because Islam isn't just the Quran, obviously.

01:45:27.000 Because Muhammad didn't write the Quran, it was written after.

01:45:29.000 No, no, no.

01:45:30.000 In my view, he wrote it.

01:45:31.000 Okay, well, whatever.

01:45:31.000 Yeah.

01:45:32.000 He wrote part of it.

01:45:33.000 But I'm just okay.

01:45:34.000 Let's just say, okay, let's just say he wrote it all.

01:45:37.000 There were a lot of connections.

01:45:39.000 Everybody needs to go watch these videos.

01:45:40.000 There's some great videos on it.

01:45:42.000 If you look at the origins of Islam, it has a lot of Jewish connections.

01:45:46.000 Let's get some more Discord colors.

01:45:47.000 Okay, yeah, we'll get some.

01:45:49.000 Let's get some more.

01:45:49.000 Let's get some more Discord callers.

01:45:51.000 Okay, we'll get here.

01:45:52.000 You don't think so?

01:45:52.000 I'm an afterlife, but not.

01:45:54.000 So you don't think before?

01:45:55.000 I think I would say Christianity, if you look at Paul, he was Jewish.

01:46:00.000 And I would say Christianity is kind of a hijacked version of I think Christianity is so different to Judaism as well. 0.76

01:46:05.000 Well, I think there's a lot of people.

01:46:06.000 The way I see it is like the Jesus in the New Testament is very different to like Jesus God in the Old Testament.

01:46:12.000 Well, Jesus, I mean, I guess we can argue about it, but Paul, you know, is basically the author of Christianity.

01:46:17.000 And Paul never even met Jesus.

01:46:19.000 Okay, all right.

01:46:20.000 If Alex is in a plane crash, like the movie Alive, would he eat a paralyzed person in order to survive since they are both a vegetable and meat?

01:46:20.000 Keeping his own destruction.

01:46:27.000 I want to know where he stands. 0.99

01:46:29.000 Also, would his answer change if the person was also gay, since they would be a vegetable, a fruit, and a meat? 0.92

01:46:33.000 Ooh, man, this guy's a comedy Russian. 1.00

01:46:36.000 I need to steal this one.

01:46:37.000 Who's that?

01:46:38.000 Who was that by?

01:46:39.000 That was Avid.

01:46:40.000 That was very good, Avid.

01:46:41.000 You know, actually, well, I think about this all the time, like, because I don't eat meat.

01:46:46.000 Well, no, I get no, not eating people, but I'm talking about eating meat.

01:46:48.000 And I always think, like, you know, if we do have another pandemic and they turn off the internet and they turned off our power and my cats died, maybe I would eat my cat if it was already dead, but I wouldn't kill my cat to eat it.

01:46:58.000 So if I was in the movie Alive, I saw that when I was a young kid.

01:47:00.000 Have you guys seen that movie?

01:47:01.000 Tate, you're too young.

01:47:02.000 So it's about the soccer team.

01:47:03.000 I think they're in Buenos Aires or wherever they were.

01:47:05.000 They crashed.

01:47:06.000 And they were stuck in a mountain.

01:47:06.000 Oh, in the mountains.

01:47:07.000 And what time was people started to die and they were all starving?

01:47:10.000 So they had this moral conundrum.

01:47:13.000 They had no food.

01:47:14.000 They could start a fire.

01:47:15.000 And there was a couple dead bodies.

01:47:16.000 So what they did to survive, they ended up eating the bodies.

01:47:19.000 None of them want to do it.

01:47:20.000 They're like eating in the movie, crying while they're eating their friend.

01:47:23.000 So like two survived, right?

01:47:25.000 Or something?

01:47:26.000 Yeah, no, I think it was maybe more than two people survived.

01:47:28.000 But yeah, I think it was only two.

01:47:31.000 Yeah, it was more than two.

01:47:31.000 I think it was like five or six, but they ate each other and it was like a day and then they give up.

01:47:35.000 What'd you guys do?

01:47:37.000 So my point is: if I was on a mountain and that's the only way I could survive and I had to do it, I watched that movie.

01:47:42.000 Yes, but I mean, not unless that was in that situation where it was life or death.

01:47:47.000 I mean, I'm not a cannibal.

01:47:48.000 What's that?

01:47:48.000 I'm not.

01:47:49.000 Chrissy Teigen said, oh, I'd like to try human meat. 0.99

01:47:51.000 Now, I'm not like that crazy, but as a vegetarian, if the person is paralyzed already and they're brain dead, that's technically vegetable.

01:47:59.000 So in that weird circumstance, stuck on a mountain, trying to survive, I would eat the person.

01:48:05.000 Would you still tell people you're a vegetarian?

01:48:07.000 Because they were like, yeah, I wouldn't count as a violation.

01:48:11.000 All right, next question: Prioralizer to baby daddy.

01:48:15.000 Okay, well, that's great.

01:48:16.000 This is for you, Sula, man.

01:48:18.000 Should law enforcement enforce laws?

01:48:20.000 If so, what difference does it make if they do it in one city or all?

01:48:24.000 No, so law enforcement should definitely enforce laws.

01:48:27.000 I think they're referring to the point I made earlier about being a bit more harsher.

01:48:30.000 I just don't think that the U.S. has the capability to go into every single city at the same time and basically round up all the illegal immigrants without causing the issues that happen in Minneapolis. 0.84

01:48:43.000 That's why I'd make it targeted, but I'd target a specific area first and then build from there.

01:48:47.000 What do you say to that, Tate?

01:48:49.000 What do you think that law enforcement should enforce the law?

01:48:52.000 I agree.

01:48:53.000 I agree.

01:48:53.000 I think it's a name.

01:48:55.000 If it's an evil law, law enforcement has a duty to defy the order.

01:48:59.000 But see, they won't.

01:48:59.000 During the pandemic, we learned that they won't.

01:49:01.000 They'll arrest you for not wearing a mask.

01:49:02.000 They'll literally not let people go.

01:49:04.000 People will join them.

01:49:05.000 And people will join.

01:49:06.000 And people will be like, well, now my opinion is that's an evil law.

01:49:09.000 So I'm going to ignore that.

01:49:10.000 And it's like, that's a slippery slope.

01:49:12.000 But Thomas Jefferson was very clear about it.

01:49:15.000 The Founding Fathers were very clear about tyrannical law and evil law, but it's like, who decides, you know, the masses of the community, essentially.

01:49:23.000 Well, we're looking up some more questions.

01:49:25.000 Thank you guys in the Discord.

01:49:26.000 Please give us some questions right now.

01:49:28.000 You know, this has been an interesting Tim Cast IRL.

01:49:31.000 We just want to say that we love Israel so much.

01:49:33.000 Thank you for all the support you have given us, Bibi Netanyahu.

01:49:36.000 You are justified in everything that you do.

01:49:38.000 And I hope that you get pardoned very soon by what you're doing.

01:49:40.000 We talked about the Abrahamification of society. 0.80

01:49:43.000 I think society's got pretty Abrahamified over the last four or five thousand years. 0.82

01:49:49.000 Christian, got Jew, got Islam to get just got so we got the secret sauce, Abraham, man. 0.99

01:49:49.000 All of it. 0.99

01:49:55.000 What about Taoism?

01:49:56.000 I mean, ain't that the one?

01:49:57.000 Oh, there's a lot of Hindus now. 1.00

01:49:58.000 It's kind of part of the problem in America. 0.91

01:50:00.000 Big monkey statues.

01:50:01.000 They got their action figures that they pray with.

01:50:03.000 I don't know what's going on.

01:50:03.000 It's getting crazy.

01:50:04.000 Hinduism aside, I think. 0.98

01:50:06.000 What is it about Taoism you like?

01:50:07.000 The flow of nature.

01:50:08.000 I think they figured out what magnet, they were talking about the flow of magnetism in the universe, but they didn't have the tools to measure that magnetism was actually a thing.

01:50:15.000 So they just talked about it, but it's flowing through you.

01:50:19.000 You can feel it even, literally.

01:50:20.000 So we have that in Islam.

01:50:22.000 So we have like there's three components of Islam.

01:50:24.000 And it might be similar.

01:50:25.000 I don't know about Semin Christian.

01:50:26.000 It's definitely Seman Judaism. 1.00

01:50:27.000 But basically, it's what you call it again.

01:50:30.000 You've got the theology.

01:50:32.000 So like believing in God, how is God or theology?

01:50:35.000 Then you've got the law, which is the legal aspect.

01:50:37.000 And then you've got the spiritual aspect.

01:50:38.000 And the spiritual aspect of Islam is that type of stuff, like meditation and doing these type of like meditated acts and trying to become spiritually elevated and becoming one with the world and one with God.

01:50:50.000 Is that I got more questions.

01:50:50.000 Okay.

01:50:53.000 So there's three like just vector or three like areas of Islam. 0.77

01:50:57.000 There's law, the theology, and then the actual spirit, the spiritual practice itself.

01:51:03.000 Okay.

01:51:03.000 Yeah.

01:51:04.000 Yeah.

01:51:05.000 It's interesting.

01:51:06.000 I like the spiritual practice.

01:51:07.000 What?

01:51:08.000 Yeah, let's go with more.

01:51:09.000 We got another one.

01:51:10.000 We need to have a Supreme Court case on gun-free zones since the Supreme Court ruled twice.

01:51:15.000 The police have no duty to protect.

01:51:17.000 How can they also make it illegal for you to protect yourself and others?

01:51:20.000 Who is that?

01:51:21.000 It's good to shut up their names. 0.65

01:51:22.000 They're. 0.93

01:51:23.000 E. Greger.

01:51:24.000 E. Greger.

01:51:25.000 Sorry, Alex.

01:51:25.000 Thank you.

01:51:26.000 Can you say that?

01:51:26.000 No, I need to shout out the name.

01:51:28.000 I. Greger, E. Greger.

01:51:29.000 I don't know.

01:51:30.000 E-I-G-R-E-G-O-R. 1.00

01:51:33.000 Yeah, I mean, obviously Phil believes that we should have a right to carry guns.

01:51:36.000 I mean, gun-free zones, I think, are just dangerous for people that are law-abiding citizens because there's always going to be people breaking the law that have a gun in a gun-free zone.

01:51:44.000 My experience in Florida, I've spent months here, is I feel so much better walking around outside, looking around, thinking all these people could have guns on them.

01:51:51.000 And they all think I could have a gun on me.

01:51:52.000 And it's really peaceful.

01:51:54.000 So obviously random bursts of crime are always possible.

01:51:58.000 It feels very secure believing everyone's armed, walking down the street.

01:52:02.000 New Hampshire has one of the highest per capita gun ownership, and they've got a murder rate that's lower than Canada.

01:52:10.000 Same thing with Maine.

01:52:11.000 In fact, not only that, there are more machine guns in the civilian population in New Hampshire than any other state, and their murder rate's lower than Canada.

01:52:20.000 Suma probably disagrees, but I would argue the more guns you have, the safer you are, because people are more afraid of actually using their gun because somebody returns.

01:52:28.000 Let's not beat around the bush, too.

01:52:29.000 I mean, it's the demographics of New Hampshire certainly help with the murder rate.

01:52:33.000 That definitely helps.

01:52:34.000 Let's not, you know, let's be honest here.

01:52:36.000 I mean, okay, let me answer that one because that one I disagree with.

01:52:39.000 But in terms of the first one, the guns, yeah, I think irrespective.

01:52:41.000 Yeah, I'm going to answer that one second.

01:52:43.000 But irrespective of what the mode is, people are violent.

01:52:48.000 So I don't think there's any sugar gunning.

01:52:49.000 In the UK, like we don't have guns, but we've got knife crime instead.

01:52:52.000 So it just ends up being a substitute.

01:52:53.000 And I do agree, actually, I think guns, well, as being a smaller guy, I mean, I'd much prefer having a gun if someone's going to come at me, right?

01:52:59.000 Now, in terms of same, brother.

01:53:02.000 Same.

01:53:03.000 That's why it's carrying guns. 0.54

01:53:05.000 In terms of what you said, look, I obviously don't agree.

01:53:07.000 I don't think it's just because of race.

01:53:08.000 I think there's a multitude of factors.

01:53:11.000 It's a factor, you know, a factor.

01:53:13.000 It's not everything, but it's not nothing.

01:53:15.000 Well, you know, they always say, like, Betty White, you know, when there's like a mass shooting, and I'm sure, you know, maybe there are, you know, white people that do shootings, but I would argue that lately it's been more transparent.

01:53:25.000 Same thing in the UK.

01:53:26.000 It's like knife crime by whom?

01:53:27.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:53:29.000 The term mass shooting, though, has been twisted out of it.

01:53:33.000 It has been twisted outside of what it really means.

01:53:35.000 It used to be in the 90s, there was this phrase that you might not remember.

01:53:39.000 Going postal, of course.

01:53:39.000 Yeah, going postal.

01:53:40.000 Because it was people that would take a gun to work and kill multiple people.

01:53:44.000 Then the left has taken the idea of a mass shooting and say, well, anytime there's a shooting and more than two people are shot, it's a mass shooting.

01:53:51.000 But they don't do that.

01:53:52.000 That's the problem.

01:53:53.000 If they did do that, then we would have like it would be like a distinctly because they say it's like, oh, only white people commit mass shootings, but it's like, it has to be like potentially ideologically driven.

01:54:03.000 But they flip-flop on it because they'll, when they're arguing against guns.

01:54:06.000 Well, because like in Chicago, there's mass shootings all the time, but it doesn't make the news headlines the same way as if it was like at a workout.

01:54:13.000 Who put the small school shootings?

01:54:15.000 Well, if you can, if you factor.

01:54:16.000 Trans people now. 0.91

01:54:17.000 No, a lot of it's black. 0.98

01:54:19.000 Like a lot of it's black. 1.00

01:54:20.000 No, I mean actual school shooting, not mass shootings. 0.95

01:54:22.000 Because you said mass shootings are just too oh.

01:54:24.000 That's what I mean.

01:54:25.000 So I'm saying, but the left, when they're trying to say like it's only white people that commit mass shootings, it's because they have a very narrow definition where it's like they don't count their ideas.

01:54:31.000 The definition of a mass shooting is just multiple people shot.

01:54:33.000 No, but that's that's the point.

01:54:35.000 So they'll use the phrase mass shooting when they're talking about gun violence or when they're actually talking about we want to strengthen gun laws because they'll say anytime it's more than two people.

01:54:45.000 But there's a distinct difference between a mass shooting at a school and the term mass shooting brings to mind Columbine, Parkland, people, you know, a bunch of kids getting shot.

01:54:55.000 That's what people think of when you hear mass shooting.

01:54:57.000 But what they're talking about is people at a party at night.

01:55:00.000 Someone shoots at someone at a party and two people get hit because there's a dude behind them.

01:55:05.000 And they say, well, that was a mass shooting because multiple people got hit.

01:55:07.000 There was one intended target, right?

01:55:09.000 Or maybe it was gang violence, but they say that's a mass shooting when it's convenient.

01:55:14.000 But then when it's not convenient in your context, they'll switch the meaning to two groups.

01:55:19.000 Sorry, two groups and they shoot at each other and three people get hit.

01:55:23.000 They would call that a mass shooting because again, but it depends on the context.

01:55:27.000 If it's in the context of we want to pass laws, we want to pass gun control laws, then they'll use that as a mass shooting.

01:55:35.000 I just want to answer your point.

01:55:36.000 I think it's because of social.

01:55:38.000 I think it's based on poverty and a few other reasons.

01:55:41.000 Everybody exhibits violence, but in different ways.

01:55:44.000 We have a question for you.

01:55:45.000 Somebody said, if you're not American, why do you feel like you have the right to tell us how to run our country?

01:55:50.000 I'm going to tell you because I teach you a better.

01:55:52.000 But now, jokes aside, I think it's what I said in the last thing is why I want to focus on the UK.

01:55:56.000 Yeah, so I do focus on the UK, but I think what it is with the United States of America, it is just so important from a number of perspectives.

01:56:03.000 Whatever America decides impacts the whole world.

01:56:05.000 America has decided to value Christianity a lot more.

01:56:08.000 UK starts following suit.

01:56:10.000 America starts speaking about illegal immigration.

01:56:12.000 UK is copying them.

01:56:13.000 Anything America does, the world follows.

01:56:16.000 In addition to that, so that's from a cultural perspective.

01:56:18.000 Then from a political perspective, anything that America decides, whether it goes to war, whether it doesn't, UK follows suit.

01:56:24.000 UK is basically America's puppy dog. 0.89

01:56:26.000 And then the third thing is, whatever decisions America makes impacts the global market and we're all part of the global market.

01:56:33.000 All right.

01:56:33.000 Good answer.

01:56:34.000 All right.

01:56:34.000 Last question is somebody said, Alex, can we get more videos of you at city councils?

01:56:38.000 And what is it, school board meetings?

01:56:40.000 Yes, I'm the Pimp Von Ablam. 0.70

01:56:41.000 I got a new show on Real America's Voice where I'll be going all over the country, city councils, school boards, you name it.

01:56:46.000 I'll be there in my tug-friendly bathing suit going and saying for the Ukraine. 0.96

01:56:49.000 All right, guys, this has been the episode so far.

01:56:52.000 You know, I think we've had some spirited debates, you know, but I would like to, I guess, give all of us a chance to kind of wrap things up.

01:56:58.000 So with that being said, Suleiman, you have the floor.

01:57:01.000 Yeah, thanks for having me.

01:57:01.000 I really appreciate it.

01:57:02.000 It's been enjoyable.

01:57:02.000 It's been fun.

01:57:03.000 Really good conversation.

01:57:05.000 You can find me on YouTube.

01:57:07.000 I've started like a new YouTube channel, quite new anyway.

01:57:10.000 I've only been doing it for a few, like a month, I think, or two months.

01:57:12.000 Suleiman Ahmed X, where I give the latest geopolitical news.

01:57:15.000 And obviously Ruma Space is on there as well.

01:57:18.000 Yeah, so find me on there.

01:57:19.000 That'd be brilliant.

01:57:20.000 Well, thank you, Suleiman.

01:57:21.000 What do you got?

01:57:22.000 I got graphene.movie.

01:57:23.000 If you haven't been there yet, go to graphene.movie and check out the trailer for the upcoming nanotechnology documentary I'm working on, graphene movie.

01:57:29.000 That's graphene.movie.

01:57:31.000 Also, sign up for the mailing list if you haven't yet put your email address in there.

01:57:34.000 And follow me at Ian Crossland.

01:57:36.000 It has indeed been a spirited debate.

01:57:38.000 Here's to many more to come.

01:57:39.000 Wait, why is graphene bad again?

01:57:41.000 It's on the table.

01:57:43.000 What?

01:57:44.000 It's dark.

01:57:45.000 You've been around with the sky too long.

01:57:46.000 Graphene?

01:57:46.000 It's really graphite.

01:57:47.000 Graphene is the red herring.

01:57:49.000 Graphite is really where it's at right now.

01:57:52.000 It's all hot, though.

01:57:52.000 Well, you know what?

01:57:53.000 Didn't Tim have on that Augustus Dorico guy that, you know, they're just spraying in a soda and people thought.

01:57:58.000 He was hanging out.

01:57:59.000 I really like that guy.

01:58:00.000 Oh, he's a billionaire.

01:58:01.000 You see, I can already tell why it takes because he's so young.

01:58:04.000 Because first of all, let's talk about ginger.

01:58:06.000 Well, that's part of his primary.

01:58:08.000 He's kind of a globalist, which I'm not sure.

01:58:09.000 I had a lot of anesthesia doesn't work on you guys.

01:58:11.000 Yeah, also our temperature sensitivity is much higher.

01:58:14.000 So I can't handle hot plates or cold.

01:58:17.000 I mean, I'm not.

01:58:18.000 I've been, well, you might not know this about me, but I'm the biggest advocate of gingers because they get a lot of abuse and a lot of hit.

01:58:23.000 I kind of like it.

01:58:24.000 They say the solace.

01:58:25.000 Some chicks are kind of hard. 1.00

01:58:26.000 I'm sorry.

01:58:27.000 Thank you for going to bed.

01:58:27.000 I'll lighten up my Pakistan.

01:58:30.000 Real quick because it shows up.

01:58:32.000 Well, how do you like a guy spraying stuff into the sky?

01:58:35.000 You don't know about chemtrails?

01:58:36.000 You think that's cool?

01:58:39.000 Well, I'm just saying he was cloud seating less than 24 hours after a horrible flood that killed a bunch of children.

01:58:43.000 And he went on a podcast tour saying, oh, we had nothing to do with it.

01:58:46.000 We were just cloud seating right before it.

01:58:47.000 It's like, dude, I don't want anybody manipulating the weather.

01:58:50.000 I don't want Israel doing it. 0.98

01:58:51.000 I don't want Augustus to Rico.

01:58:53.000 I don't want anybody doing it.

01:58:54.000 So, yeah, I mean, he's not based on it.

01:58:57.000 Augustus is doing it so then Israel doesn't have it. 0.95

01:59:00.000 He's supplanting Israeli cloud seating.

01:59:02.000 I think he's very bass.

01:59:03.000 Yeah, by name.

01:59:03.000 He's attacking Israeli dominance.

01:59:05.000 You know, it's funny because if you're anti-Israel, you have to be better for you.

01:59:08.000 I'm a lot older than you, but I remember in the summers in Texas when I played high school football, it didn't rain for like 70 days.

01:59:14.000 And then now the summers in Texas, it's raining like crazy.

01:59:17.000 So something that sounds about people messing around.

01:59:19.000 They're definitely manipulating the weather, and I think that that's very dangerous for human beings to play God.

01:59:23.000 Yeah, true.

01:59:24.000 Phil.

01:59:24.000 Agree.

01:59:25.000 Oh, it's a Tate.

01:59:25.000 Tate.

01:59:26.000 X and Instagram at RealTate Brown.

01:59:29.000 We got two installations of Across the Pond coming up for the weekend with Connor Tomlinson.

01:59:32.000 And on Sunday, we had Nathan Halberstadt join us, and we discussed sort of general Zoomer nihilism, especially with the discussion of Trump, obviously, you know, barring institutional buyers from the housing market, potentially.

01:59:45.000 So we broke that down and sort of the fact that Zoomers can't actually feel like they can own homes, the implication that has on Zoomers and contributes to nihilism that's just plaguing our generation. 0.92

01:59:55.000 So be on the lookout for those two episodes.

01:59:57.000 Again, they're going up on the Culture War channel.

01:59:58.000 Tomorrow, the episode goes up on Connors, and then Sunday goes up on the Culture War channel.

02:00:02.000 So do not miss it.

02:00:03.000 It's going to be great.

02:00:04.000 I am Phil that remains on Twix.

02:00:05.000 The band is all that remains.

02:00:07.000 We are going on tour this spring in May, or in April, we start April 29th.

02:00:12.000 We'll be in Albany.

02:00:13.000 We're going to go out with Born of Osiris and Dead Eyes.

02:00:16.000 The band is all that remains.

02:00:17.000 Check us out on Apple Music, Amazon Music, Pandora, Spotify, YouTube, and Deezer.

02:00:21.000 Don't forget the left lane is for crime.

02:00:23.000 And we want to thank our sponsors, Bearskin.

02:00:25.000 Is that correct?

02:00:26.000 Yeah, Bearskin.

02:00:27.000 I said, Bearskin. 0.96

02:00:27.000 Everybody, go by Bearskin. 0.96

02:00:28.000 And I just want to say thank you to BBNet one last time for everything you do for our country.

02:00:33.000 I'm sorry we haven't started that war with Iran.

02:00:35.000 I hope we turn into a parking lot very soon for you.

02:00:37.000 And, you know, maybe you guys do run the world, but hey, you guys are the ones that deserve to do it because you're the smartest, most beautiful, and the most talented.

02:00:44.000 So we love you, Israel.

02:00:45.000 Say you love Israel, Suleiman.

02:00:47.000 We'll never ever say it.

02:00:47.000 One.

02:00:48.000 Why not?

02:00:49.000 You can't say I love Israel.

02:00:50.000 Bruv.

02:00:51.000 Dude, we're going to get canceled.

02:00:52.000 Just say it.

02:00:54.000 We're going to get canceled.

02:00:56.000 Cut the people who loves Israel. 1.00

02:00:58.000 Galgodonto loves Israel.

02:01:00.000 Galgodonto.

02:01:01.000 We're going to go touch the wall.

02:01:02.000 You need to go to the cloud wall.

02:01:05.000 Go to Hadrian's wall and pray on that.

02:01:07.000 That's the middle ground.

02:01:08.000 It's a great wall.

02:01:09.000 Galgado is very proud.

02:01:10.000 Go to the one in Jerusalem or Tel Aviv or wherever.

02:01:12.000 I don't even know where the hell it is.

02:01:13.000 Go to it.

02:01:14.000 Your soul loves us.

02:01:15.000 No, your soul gets into heaven by kissing it.

02:01:17.000 Or do they believe in heaven?

02:01:18.000 I don't know.

02:01:18.000 I forget.

02:01:18.000 But I'll say this much.

02:01:19.000 You got to have a soul.

02:01:20.000 Galgodo.

02:01:21.000 But I'll tell you what I do have is I have love for you, the viewer at home.

02:01:24.000 Make sure to hit that like button, hit that subscribe button.

02:01:26.000 And Tim is in jail when he gets bonded out.

02:01:29.000 He's going to be back on this show.

02:01:31.000 He's in jail for murder.

02:01:32.000 Somebody was in front of his car and he actually ran him over. 1.00

02:01:34.000 Unlike that bitch, Renee, good. 1.00

02:01:36.000 Tim doesn't mess around. 1.00

02:01:37.000 He hits the gas hard and he does not stop till the person is smashed like a bug.

02:01:41.000 So with all that being said, thank you for watching, Tim Cast RO.

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