Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - NBA Games RIGGED, 34 Indictments, Democrat Calls It TRUMP'S REVENGE | Timcast IRL

00:02:25.000 The NBA is rigged.

00:02:28.000 Is anybody surprised?

00:02:29.000 I don't know if the whole thing is rigged, but there's this massive scandal.

00:02:33.000 34 indictments, professional players getting wrapped up in not just rigging games and flubbing the ball, but also mafia-tied illegal poker games.

00:02:44.000 And so, you know, we actually, before the show's getting started, I'm like, does anyone here actually know anything about sports?

00:02:49.000 Unfortunately, Tate does.

00:02:50.000 So he's sitting here and we're going to have it.

00:02:52.000 But this is a crazy story.

00:02:53.000 Stephen A. Smith says this is Trump's revenge.

00:02:56.000 Despite the fact the investigation has been going on for several years and it started during the Biden administration, Democrats are still trying to find a way to make this Trump's fault that professional coaches and NBA players were ripping people off with illegal rigged poker games and rigging actual NBA basketball games.

00:03:15.000 Okay, that's how you know people have lost their minds.

00:03:17.000 So let's talk about something kind of normal for once, like the NBA being rigged, which I think most people already assumed.

00:03:22.000 So we're going to talk about that and a lot more.

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00:06:08.000 Oh man, we got a lot more to talk about than just sports because we need to hear the story of this man, George Santos.

00:06:16.000 Who?

00:06:17.000 Me?

00:06:18.000 What do you do?

00:06:18.000 Who are you?

00:06:19.000 Yeah.

00:06:19.000 Who is George Santos?

00:06:20.000 I guess it's you.

00:06:21.000 Can the real George Santos stand up?

00:06:23.000 Well, you were in jail.

00:06:24.000 You're not in jail anymore.

00:06:25.000 Thanks.

00:06:26.000 Thanks to President Trump.

00:06:27.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:06:28.000 Well, I think everybody knows who you are, but do they, though?

00:06:32.000 Well, then introduce yourself.

00:06:34.000 Well, no, it's great to be here with you.

00:06:36.000 I was actually listening to you talk about the meat sponsor, and I'm just like, oh, wow.

00:06:40.000 Like, this is something I know really well about.

00:06:42.000 So I was like, you're ordering meat.

00:06:46.000 No, it's just, it's good to be here.

00:06:52.000 It really is.

00:06:52.000 I'm speechless.

00:06:53.000 Oh, my God.

00:06:54.000 Who is a real George Santos?

00:06:56.000 I guess to some Americans, the biggest liar in Congress, which I think is hilarious because that's such a high bar.

00:07:02.000 And for me to reach that, I think that is absolutely an award for it.

00:07:08.000 Yeah, I should because it would be a fraud of an award because nobody really wants to take it.

00:07:14.000 But hey, I'll take the award.

00:07:15.000 I like shiny things on my wall.

00:07:17.000 But no, look, I just, I think I embodied, unfortunately, the worst way of doing things, which is like fake it till you make it.

00:07:26.000 And that's just not something I condone, but I did engage in it. 1.00

00:07:29.000 A lot would like you would, you would agree with that, right?

00:07:32.000 It's fascinating.

00:07:33.000 You did it to the top.

00:07:34.000 Yeah, which is you shouldn't, because then I went to prison.

00:07:36.000 And, you know, punish out of prison, 84 days in prison really humbles you.

00:07:42.000 Like, especially solitary.

00:07:44.000 41 of those in solitary confinement, which you would think in the United States of America, we would have already, you know, stopped doing that and really, really, it's an abominal practice. 0.90

00:07:56.000 And if they can do it to me, imagine what they can do to like Joe Schmo.

00:07:59.000 Like, no, I'm a privileged person, right?

00:08:01.000 I know members of Congress.

00:08:02.000 I know members of the Trump family.

00:08:04.000 And if they can do it to somebody like me who's like, quote, connected, imagine what they do to like random inmates, the torture.

00:08:11.000 Like, it's sick.

00:08:12.000 Well, it's actually a fascinating story.

00:08:15.000 So we'll definitely get into all of that and where you are now.

00:08:17.000 So thanks for joining us.

00:08:19.000 No, thanks for having me.

00:08:20.000 That's great.

00:08:21.000 Love you.

00:08:21.000 I love it.

00:08:22.000 Have so much fun.

00:08:23.000 It's going to be great.

00:08:23.000 We got a lot hanging out.

00:08:24.000 Good evening, everybody.

00:08:25.000 I'm Alad Eliyahu, the White House correspondent here at Timcast.

00:08:28.000 Also, I guess Pentagon reporter.

00:08:29.000 Santos, thank you.

00:08:30.000 Mr. Santos, thank you so much for joining us tonight.

00:08:33.000 You have such a fascinating story, and I'm excited to get into it, you know, because I've always been very curious about like who Jews run with in the pen and about the kosher meals over there.

00:08:42.000 So I'm excited to get you.

00:08:43.000 The kosher meals are actually really good.

00:08:45.000 I can imagine.

00:08:47.000 We're having some kind of stream error or is that YouTube?

00:08:49.000 Just YouTube.

00:08:50.000 Just Rumble's fine.

00:08:52.000 Yeah, so guys, people complain about YouTube.

00:08:56.000 It's YouTube.

00:08:56.000 It's not us.

00:08:57.000 It is YouTube being down.

00:08:59.000 Sorry to interrupt him.

00:09:00.000 But if you're watching on YouTube, Rumble's completely normal.

00:09:05.000 And on our end, all of our data looks fantastic.

00:09:09.000 So I'm assuming YouTube has just had this big outage.

00:09:12.000 So rumble.com/slash Timcast IRL.

00:09:15.000 But anyway, Mary's hanging out.

00:09:16.000 Hi, everyone.

00:09:17.000 My name is Mary Morgan, and you can usually find me on Pop Culture Crisis here at Timcast.

00:09:22.000 I am currently enjoying a cup of Mary's Ghost Blend, which is now available at castbrew.com.

00:09:28.000 And I am happy to say that I officially have the George Santos endorsement.

00:09:36.000 Don't run for office with that endorsement.

00:09:37.000 If we restart the YouTube stream, will it just kick back on like normal to those that are watching it?

00:09:41.000 Just to like try and see, see.

00:09:43.000 I haven't done it before.

00:09:44.000 Oh, well, let's see what happens.

00:09:45.000 So if you're watching on YouTube, you'll see maybe it's going to jump, but clearly it's not working.

00:09:51.000 We can do that.

00:09:52.000 There's some funny business going on.

00:09:54.000 Yeah, George comes on, and all of a sudden the YouTube side is just, it's broken.

00:09:58.000 I'm telling you, they're not fans.

00:10:01.000 And Rumble's totally fun.

00:10:04.000 YouTube's been effing up a lot lately.

00:10:06.000 Yeah.

00:10:09.000 This is weird.

00:10:12.000 We're not live on YouTube right now.

00:10:13.000 Yeah, I took it down because it was broken.

00:10:15.000 And we're trying to put it up, but it's not working.

00:10:18.000 I'm showing when I pull up YouTube.

00:10:22.000 I rebooted it, so for those that are watching on YouTube, I don't know.

00:10:28.000 I'm going to call Shannon's.

00:10:29.000 Anyway, Libby's here.

00:10:31.000 I'm Libby and I'm here.

00:10:32.000 I'm Libby Evans at the Postmillennial.

00:10:34.000 Glad to be here with everybody and human events.

00:10:36.000 Can't forget human events.

00:10:37.000 Glad to be here with everybody.

00:10:39.000 Right on.

00:10:39.000 And Tate's here, too, because we don't know anything about sports.

00:10:41.000 It's true.

00:10:42.000 I'm a Bread and Circuses enjoyer, I would say.

00:10:45.000 Tate Brown here holding it down.

00:10:47.000 I am a George Santos nationalist.

00:10:49.000 So whatever stunt Google's pulling right now, we're on them.

00:10:53.000 We're on their case.

00:10:54.000 We know what's going on.

00:10:54.000 Restarting it appeared to have worked.

00:10:56.000 People are saying it's working again.

00:10:56.000 Sweet.

00:10:57.000 So welcome to the show.

00:10:58.000 Perfect.

00:11:00.000 I guess we're jumping straight to the news, right?

00:11:02.000 Here we go from Muta Today.

00:11:03.000 Oh, man.

00:11:04.000 Guys, I love this story because it combines a ton of what I love.

00:11:07.000 Cybersecurity, mafia, dark side, politics, and poker.

00:11:12.000 We got it all.

00:11:13.000 From Muta Today, NBA gambling scandal live updates.

00:11:17.000 Chauncey Billops, how do you pronounce his Terry Rutsier?

00:11:20.000 Terry Rogier.

00:11:20.000 Rogier.

00:11:21.000 I don't even know how to say his name.

00:11:24.000 His nickname is Scary Terry, so you can just call him Scary Terry.

00:11:24.000 You can say scary.

00:11:27.000 I guarantee you that the amount of people who know how to say, how do you say his name?

00:11:32.000 Rogier.

00:11:33.000 Dude, even the prosecutor couldn't say it.

00:11:35.000 But there's tons of people who do, but those people also are going to be like, who's Tim Burchett?

00:11:40.000 Sure.

00:11:40.000 You know what I mean?

00:11:41.000 And then we here are going to be like, well, of course we know Tim.

00:11:43.000 Like we are all in the political space.

00:11:45.000 Can you summarize what happened?

00:11:47.000 Because you know sports.

00:11:48.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:11:49.000 Well, so there's two indictments.

00:11:51.000 Obviously, there's the poker side, the illegal poker games, and that's what Chauncey Billips was indicted on.

00:11:56.000 They're saying he was the face card.

00:11:58.000 That's what they called it in the indictment.

00:12:00.000 So he was the celebrity presence at the poker table to draw people into these games.

00:12:04.000 And then the other indictment was basically match fixing.

00:12:08.000 They were saying with the sports betting that the players were feeding information to bookies or to anybody that would be wanting to place a bet, and they would use that information to their advantage.

00:12:18.000 So Terry Rogier was the prominent player named here.

00:12:21.000 They're calling him a superstar, which is really a bit of an overstatement.

00:12:25.000 He was a backup at the Boston Celtics, started playing really well.

00:12:29.000 I think he held down the starting gig for like a year or two, and then he signed a huge contract with the Charlotte Hornets.

00:12:34.000 So that's what everyone's kind of scratching their heads here is because he's made about $160 million over his career so far.

00:12:39.000 He's only 31, so he's still got four or five years left in the league.

00:12:42.000 And so, I mean, that's the big thing everyone's kind of looking at is like, these guys, they're not short on cash.

00:12:48.000 So why would they need to go into business presumably with the mob?

00:12:51.000 That's what's being, you know, obviously speculated here.

00:12:54.000 But yeah, so there's two, there's two prongs to this criminal enterprise that are currently being investigated by the FBI.

00:13:02.000 We have that video of Terry Rogier.

00:13:04.000 Is that his name is?

00:13:05.000 Terry Rogier, yeah.

00:13:06.000 Rogier.

00:13:07.000 Oh, is this right here?

00:13:07.000 No, wait, that's not it.

00:13:09.000 And it's absolutely hilarious.

00:13:10.000 I'm pulling it up right now.

00:13:12.000 And this guy's in one game.

00:13:13.000 Anybody who doesn't play basketball.

00:13:16.000 Let me start this over.

00:13:17.000 That was the most obvious.

00:13:17.000 Just watch.

00:13:33.000 Rozier I don't play basketball But that's really bad This is like But in your volleyball experience.

00:13:45.000 Oh, yeah, no.

00:13:46.000 Yeah, no.

00:13:47.000 Like, yeah, that's really bad.

00:13:48.000 But I can play volleyball better if they play that.

00:13:50.000 Okay, so it's the second one.

00:13:53.000 This one right here.

00:13:54.000 This is the most obvious because he starts running the other way as soon as he throws the ball.

00:13:59.000 Like, what was he doing?

00:14:02.000 What was he doing?

00:14:03.000 What was he trying to fake?

00:14:04.000 There's nothing there.

00:14:05.000 I mean, look, I held down the backup point guard position for, I don't want to say the team, and I had never made mistakes like that.

00:14:12.000 And this was, you know, varsity basketball.

00:14:14.000 We're not talking a high level.

00:14:15.000 This is what you see at a lifetime fitness at like 6 p.m., like a drunk, like a drunk guy.

00:14:21.000 No, no, no.

00:14:22.000 He's going through a divorce.

00:14:24.000 You know, it's not good for one lifetime.

00:14:26.000 You know, lifetime's a great institution.

00:14:26.000 No.

00:14:29.000 Lifetime's a great institution, but you're not going to get the most high-quality basketball there.

00:14:33.000 This guy, you know, he's going through like a divorce or something.

00:14:35.000 That's the kind of pass he throws.

00:14:37.000 You don't expect that pass from the starting point guard of the Miami Heat.

00:14:40.000 Three times in one game.

00:14:43.000 What?

00:14:44.000 Right.

00:14:44.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:14:45.000 What?

00:14:46.000 I'm surprised this stuff isn't more common, frankly.

00:14:49.000 Well, there's been other players that have been speculated because they just have abhorrent games out of nowhere.

00:14:54.000 They're making very sloppy mistakes.

00:14:57.000 Malik Beasley is this famous example that people look into and they say he was throwing matches.

00:15:02.000 Terry Rogier, if you go back, there's people that were tweeting after this game specifically saying like, holy crap, dude, if you're going to match fix, you need to make it a little less obvious.

00:15:12.000 Yeah, there are viral tweets where people are saying they need to also investigate.

00:15:16.000 A ton of other people ended up getting dictated as well.

00:15:18.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:15:19.000 Well, they have that issue in soccer a lot, right?

00:15:21.000 Soccer players throw games all the time.

00:15:22.000 Brazil.

00:15:23.000 They throw themselves on the ground.

00:15:24.000 I mean, they're great actors.

00:15:27.000 The thing about soccer today, it's like you'll see like Neymar in Brazil, number one offender of like acting.

00:15:33.000 You'll see like a kick go near him.

00:15:35.000 He takes the advantage, throws himself on the floor.

00:15:37.000 Then you'll have that slow motion zoom in every angle possible.

00:15:40.000 And he's like a foot away from the kick, but he's still on the floor rolling.

00:15:44.000 Like, did a phantom kick?

00:15:46.000 Like, dude, it's like they throw themselves like they fake injure to get out of the game.

00:15:50.000 And I don't understand how they let him get away with it.

00:15:52.000 And he makes $400 million.

00:15:55.000 $400.

00:15:55.000 That's his contract.

00:15:56.000 That's crazy.

00:15:56.000 Yeah.

00:15:57.000 For how many years, though?

00:15:58.000 I think it's like whenever they sign and buy these soccer players, they're traded for a lot more money than NBA players.

00:16:03.000 Yeah, because in America.

00:16:04.000 One year at 400 million.

00:16:06.000 There's no way.

00:16:07.000 American athletes.

00:16:07.000 No, it's true.

00:16:08.000 Are you kidding?

00:16:09.000 One year, 400.

00:16:11.000 I'm not going to put money on one year, but contracts are insane.

00:16:14.000 That's more than the GDP of several small island nations.

00:16:18.000 Very true.

00:16:19.000 Haiti who?

00:16:21.000 Well, I think I might be worth more.

00:16:25.000 You can probably feed Haiti.

00:16:28.000 Actually feed Haiti.

00:16:29.000 It's true.

00:16:30.000 Not like the Clintons fed Haiti.

00:16:31.000 No.

00:16:32.000 I can throw some mud and some wheat together.

00:16:35.000 I can make some cookies for you.

00:16:35.000 I can make it happen.

00:16:37.000 But the most egregious, the most egregious indictment was John C. Porter, who was actually banned from the NBA.

00:16:43.000 He played for the Toronto Raptors.

00:16:45.000 And they busted him because he, I guess, tipped off the bookies that he was going to be injured for the game.

00:16:51.000 And someone put an $800,000 bet down.

00:16:54.000 He's going to be out for the game.

00:16:55.000 And it's just one of those things.

00:16:56.000 It's like, look, I know NBA players aren't known for their financial wisdom.

00:17:00.000 They're not really tuning into Dave Ramsey, but like 800K.

00:17:03.000 Like, what are we doing?

00:17:04.000 Well, there was, wasn't it, they said one of the best players for LA sent a text to another person saying, hey, one of our players is injured.

00:17:14.000 Go bet on the other team.

00:17:15.000 Yeah, it was, I think it was on the Cavs.

00:17:17.000 There was a player who was saying, hey, LeBron's going to be injured.

00:17:21.000 Yeah.

00:17:22.000 And then, of course, LeBron is like, thanks a lot.

00:17:24.000 Now I'm in, now my name's everywhere.

00:17:26.000 Yeah.

00:17:27.000 I mean, who knows what's going on?

00:17:28.000 But imagine you're saying, hey, go bet on the other team because we're down, you know, LeBron.

00:17:32.000 Yeah, well, because Pete Rose went down because he was betting on himself.

00:17:34.000 Last time I checked, every teacher told me to bet on myself.

00:17:37.000 Yeah, that's the problem.

00:17:39.000 Hey, I bet on myself.

00:17:40.000 It's not a good idea.

00:17:43.000 Pete Rose never bet on himself to lose.

00:17:45.000 Right.

00:17:45.000 These guys are betting on themselves to lose.

00:17:47.000 And that's really unconscionable.

00:17:49.000 I think Pete Rose loved the game.

00:17:51.000 Yeah, wait, wait, you're not allowed to bet on yourself to win?

00:17:52.000 Yeah.

00:17:53.000 No, you're not allowed to bet on yourself to win at all.

00:17:55.000 Weren't you saying all that?

00:17:56.000 I rigged the game by winning it.

00:17:57.000 Well, you know what?

00:17:58.000 Right.

00:17:58.000 You're not supposed to be.

00:17:59.000 You're not supposed to be betting at all if you're a player.

00:18:01.000 It's true, but I shouldn't be betting at all.

00:18:03.000 Let's just stop there.

00:18:04.000 I wish Polymark would have had open Will Jordanos get expelled market at the time.

00:18:09.000 I would have bet on yes. 0.99

00:18:10.000 Fuck yeah. 1.00

00:18:13.000 Wait, wait, wait, hold on. 1.00

00:18:15.000 Are there any rules against that for Polymarket?

00:18:18.000 I think this guy kids.

00:18:21.000 Do you really think I cared at that point?

00:18:22.000 I was getting fired.

00:18:24.000 I did care once upon a time. 0.73

00:18:26.000 I think it was crazy, though, because Mike Johnson told everyone to bet their conscience, which I thought was absolutely ridiculous.

00:18:31.000 Which I literally at their conscience?

00:18:33.000 No, not bet.

00:18:34.000 No, no.

00:18:35.000 Which I really had issues with those words because I called him.

00:18:37.000 I'm like, okay, I just voted my conscience and rally, helping rally the caucus to make you speaker.

00:18:42.000 And that's how you like, I talk about this a lot.

00:18:45.000 I love Matt Gates, and he was so giddy about firing the speaker at the time, McCarthy.

00:18:51.000 I could tell.

00:18:52.000 And I looked at him that night because we left and went to my office.

00:18:58.000 And I said, you know, I'm glad you're happy you accomplished what you sought out to do, but you do know I'm getting fired next.

00:19:05.000 So to me, I wish we would have been speakerless a little longer so I could make my one year mark.

00:19:10.000 But it is what it is.

00:19:12.000 Yeah, I'm pretty sure like every major sport is rigged.

00:19:15.000 Isn't the NFL rigged?

00:19:16.000 Remember, it was a couple of years ago.

00:19:18.000 You guys know better than me because I'm not a sports ball guy.

00:19:21.000 But Ravens, it was the Ravens versus some other team.

00:19:24.000 And there were a bunch of videos going viral of like the guys were intentionally not tackling the team's quarterback and stuff.

00:19:30.000 Well, at the expense of getting canceled forever.

00:19:32.000 I mean, that explains four Super Bowls for the Buffaloes, right?

00:19:36.000 For the Bills.

00:19:37.000 I mean, in a row and not winning.

00:19:39.000 I'll just look at Tay because I don't even know what those words mean.

00:19:41.000 No, it's true.

00:19:42.000 Like, you know, you know how the losing team, they have all their Super Bowl winner championship merch already printed so they can be ready to go.

00:19:47.000 Well, the Bills lost like four Super Bowls in the 90s in a row.

00:19:50.000 Right.

00:19:51.000 So it's like, I think kids in Africa probably think the Bills are like a dynasty.

00:19:56.000 Oh, these guys are good.

00:19:57.000 Or Mexico, like, you know, campaign merch goes to Mexico.

00:19:59.000 It's true.

00:20:00.000 Oh, really?

00:20:01.000 That's why you see like all these Obama t-shirts and were coming up.

00:20:04.000 Remember when Laura Loomer did it?

00:20:05.000 Like, you're wearing Obama merch.

00:20:07.000 I'm like, yeah, because that's where it's totally.

00:20:08.000 America loves female presidents. 1.00

00:20:10.000 To be fair, they did have shirts that said, Biden, please let us in, though.

00:20:13.000 That was a viral thing they were doing.

00:20:15.000 Well, that was just organized NGOs funding that, just, you know, just to, I guess, troll us at that point.

00:20:20.000 They also had thank you Biden shirts.

00:20:22.000 They did.

00:20:23.000 Oh, really?

00:20:23.000 Yeah.

00:20:24.000 Yeah.

00:20:24.000 Those were NGOs funding that with some of the USAID.

00:20:28.000 Yeah.

00:20:29.000 And you know, it almost feels like it's pro-Trump.

00:20:31.000 Like, let's get a bunch of people, people, like photos of illegal immigrants saying thank you, Biden.

00:20:35.000 I mean, it worked, didn't it?

00:20:36.000 It really hurt his campaign.

00:20:37.000 Hey, you know what?

00:20:38.000 This was in 2020.

00:20:39.000 This was 2020.

00:20:40.000 Oh, wow.

00:20:41.000 I guess it worked for him.

00:20:42.000 Yeah.

00:20:43.000 I mean, everything's fake. 0.96

00:20:45.000 Can we just, can we just all agree everything's fake and gay? 1.00

00:20:47.000 It certainly feels, you know, there's been in America, there's been this sort of reorientation of the American sports fan towards college sports.

00:20:54.000 And I think it's because they view it as like a more raw, purified version of sport.

00:20:59.000 Because at the pro level, there's just so much shenanigans going.

00:21:01.000 Even there's like been scandals with refs where, for example, in soccer, the refs are actually typically the ones getting busted for match fixing. 1.00

00:21:07.000 Oh, yeah.

00:21:08.000 And even in American sports, there's been a few probes into various refs and the NBA specifically. 0.96

00:21:13.000 Weird thought.

00:21:14.000 FIFA has a lot of issues with refs that get paid to call the worst, the worst freaking FIFA wouldn't take a bribe. 1.00

00:21:22.000 I think baseball is fixed.

00:21:24.000 Yeah.

00:21:24.000 Because we went and saw the Nats versus the Sox, and there were several blatantly bad calls by the ump that everyone was confused by, and everyone's booing.

00:21:34.000 And I'm just sitting there thinking, like, look, if you want to maximize the amount of games you play to sell more tickets, to sell more hot dogs, you need to control the outcome of the game.

00:21:45.000 And there's tens of millions and hundreds of millions of dollars on the line for a lot of these games.

00:21:49.000 Why wouldn't they just say, hey, just let them win this one, you know, however you can.

00:21:54.000 And you can't absolutely control the outcome, but you can change the direction of your sales, as it were.

00:22:00.000 I mean, the umps are not the funnest people. 1.00

00:22:02.000 And have you seen a little league game?

00:22:05.000 They make the worst calls.

00:22:06.000 It's like that type of phenotype either becomes Little League ump or like HOA.

00:22:10.000 Like one of those.

00:22:10.000 Yeah.

00:22:11.000 That's how it always goes.

00:22:13.000 That's the male care inversion in suburban America.

00:22:13.000 Another thing you can do.

00:22:16.000 It's very true.

00:22:17.000 Another thing you'll notice in the NBA specifically is the players are very well aware of the money line.

00:22:23.000 So when they're coming down to the wire, typically if you're down like six or eight points, you're going to be shooting because you're like, I don't know, maybe we hit two or three threes back to back with 10 seconds to go, like Reggie Miller's done it before.

00:22:32.000 But now, if they're right at the money line, right under the money line, they will not take any shots in the last like 30 seconds because they don't want to tick over and ruin bets or presumably their friends.

00:22:42.000 Wow.

00:22:42.000 That's to be the most crucial.

00:22:43.000 And this is like pretty wide in the open.

00:22:45.000 So let's jump to this story from Tim Cast News.

00:22:48.000 Trump is coming.

00:22:50.000 Stephen A. Smith suggests today's FBI press conference announcing widespread arrests amid their investigation into illegal gambling was politically motivated and timed to negatively impact the NBA.

00:23:01.000 Because we all know Trump's biggest enemy and rival this whole time has been the NBA, I guess.

00:23:08.000 But the Democrats are always going to find some reason to make it about Trump.

00:23:12.000 How many times for one incident after another have I said Trump is coming?

00:23:21.000 He's coming.

00:23:22.000 We'll see it on national television.

00:23:25.000 Bad Bunny is performing at the Super Bowl and all of a sudden you're hearing ICE is going to be there.

00:23:31.000 Looking to engage in mass deportations.

00:23:34.000 The Super Bowl disrupting things.

00:23:38.000 Big night for the NBA when Bianca put on a show. 0.84

00:23:41.000 That has now been smeared because we're talking about this story.

00:23:46.000 Remember, Trump has a long, long history connected to the world of sports because he had those casinos.

00:23:46.000 Okay.

00:23:52.000 Where do you think folks will come in after time?

00:23:54.000 I'm not talking about individuals.

00:23:56.000 I'm talking about the culture.

00:23:58.000 When people want to go to a casino, when people want to gamble, when people want to party, whatever the case may be, this was his kind of connection to that.

00:24:06.000 Why am I glad you're here, Monica?

00:24:08.000 Because don't be surprised if the WNBA is next on his list.

00:24:14.000 Because when you've got all of these protests that have been going out, okay, okay.

00:24:19.000 20 bucks.

00:24:20.000 This is where Stephen A. Smith jumps the shark.

00:24:23.000 He was viewed by many as a moderate Democrat personality.

00:24:28.000 Maybe he could fix the orientation of the Democratic Party.

00:24:31.000 But now he's doing exactly what everyone expects of Democrats.

00:24:35.000 A bad thing happened.

00:24:36.000 Trump did it, I guess.

00:24:39.000 They're just beyond rescue at this point.

00:24:40.000 I mean, the Democrats are beyond rescue. 1.00

00:24:42.000 If you think this idiot's going to rescue the Democrat Party, good. 1.00

00:24:46.000 It's like, please put all your chips on this idiot who's a tool. 1.00

00:24:50.000 And Trump's coming. 1.00

00:24:52.000 Like, I almost feel like, you better watch out.

00:24:55.000 You better not shout. 0.92

00:24:57.000 Like, what the hell? 0.89

00:24:58.000 He's literally the boogeyman to them. 0.53

00:24:59.000 But what they totally find.

00:25:02.000 Sorry, I stubbed my toe earlier and it was Trump.

00:25:04.000 I'm sure it was Trump.

00:25:05.000 It was Trump because it rhymes with bump and you stubbed your toe.

00:25:05.000 Yeah.

00:25:08.000 I was watching.

00:25:09.000 I wasn't paying attention to where I was going because I was watching a video of Trump.

00:25:11.000 It made me so angry.

00:25:12.000 I stubbed my toe.

00:25:13.000 Well, the thing is, though, Trump loves a bread and circus, right?

00:25:16.000 I mean, he loves a big spectacle.

00:25:18.000 He likes big sporting events because everyone goes and looks at them and then they're happy.

00:25:22.000 I mean, that's what, you know, that's like a big part of he's like a, he's like a little bit Roman in that respect.

00:25:27.000 He's going to build a giant arch.

00:25:29.000 He's building a ballroom.

00:25:30.000 You know, he likes big giant things.

00:25:32.000 He's destroying the White House, according to them.

00:25:35.000 But you know, I saw a tweet.

00:25:36.000 Well, the whole East Wing's gone now, right?

00:25:38.000 I didn't...

00:25:39.000 Yeah, the east...

00:25:40.000 That little section.

00:25:41.000 Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:25:42.000 Not that little section.

00:25:43.000 That whole east wing.

00:25:44.000 I really hope...

00:25:45.000 Well, they're going to replace it with something way better.

00:25:47.000 I really hope he just names it the Trump Annex.

00:25:50.000 I mean, I really do because I want it to live enshrined in the minds of every Democrat that will ever come after Trump.

00:25:59.000 There is the Trump annex to the White Single.

00:26:02.000 I saw a tweet and I did not look into it, but it said that Bernie Sanders and Nancy Pelosi are both older than the East Wing that was just abolished.

00:26:11.000 So, I mean, come on, like, it's really, it's not that historic.

00:26:14.000 Plus, every single president comes in and makes all kinds of changes.

00:26:17.000 Rose guarded him.

00:26:18.000 Obama made all kinds of changes.

00:26:19.000 He put in like a basketball court and moved tennis courts to somewhere else.

00:26:23.000 They all come in.

00:26:25.000 He removed the tennis court.

00:26:26.000 Right.

00:26:27.000 And that, but that's part of it.

00:26:28.000 It's like you're a steward of the White House.

00:26:30.000 You make it better for the time that you're there.

00:26:32.000 You know, like make it better for history.

00:26:35.000 And I hope that Donald Trump does put up that giant arch in Washington, D.C. And I hope that it's gold.

00:26:41.000 I just hope that the White House extension is gold.

00:26:44.000 Make it all gold.

00:26:45.000 Golden pink marble.

00:26:48.000 Trump Tower.

00:26:50.000 Kind of like what Stephen A is talking.

00:26:51.000 I mean, Trump loves like a spectacle because he goes big.

00:26:55.000 That's why he embodies America so well.

00:26:56.000 Because Americans, I love this description of Americans is that we're all just temporarily embarrassed millionaires.

00:27:01.000 And he exemplifies, that's why he's relatable.

00:27:02.000 Like people relate more with Donald Trump than like, you know, like when DeSantis puts on cowboy boots or whatever.

00:27:07.000 It's like, no, I like that guy because he's rich and famous and knows like famous people and is awesome.

00:27:11.000 It's like, yeah, that's why we like him.

00:27:12.000 And like for the record, the World Cup's coming to the United States.

00:27:15.000 That's because of Donald Trump.

00:27:16.000 Yeah.

00:27:17.000 Because he wants everything here.

00:27:19.000 He wants America to be number one.

00:27:20.000 And it's like, yeah, make the world come here and watch.

00:27:22.000 He's an entertainer.

00:27:23.000 That's why he became president.

00:27:24.000 And that's why people love him.

00:27:26.000 And I know at the risk of getting in trouble.

00:27:28.000 And that's why he's won three presidential elections.

00:27:32.000 George, did you have any correspondence with him while you were locked up?

00:27:35.000 Oh, sure.

00:27:36.000 You know, I called him on his cell.

00:27:37.000 It was really letters because I know there were people lobbying on your behalf.

00:27:41.000 He's the president getting like a bad guy.

00:27:44.000 I mean, like, can you imagine this call is from a federal correction facility to accept this call for us five?

00:27:50.000 And it's a white outside.

00:27:51.000 He's talking about pardoning Diddy.

00:27:52.000 So, I mean, why would that be out of that?

00:27:54.000 Did you know he was going to commute your sentence?

00:27:56.000 I did not.

00:27:56.000 So it's wild.

00:27:57.000 I mean, look, you're right.

00:27:59.000 A lot of people did advocate.

00:28:00.000 I have a lot of friends who went to bat.

00:28:01.000 It didn't feel like that many, like Marjorie Taylor Greene.

00:28:04.000 It was elected officials.

00:28:05.000 I mean, of elected officials, there was a lot of them behind the scenes because it's politics.

00:28:10.000 So people do, you know, take precautions.

00:28:14.000 But of the ones who were very public about it, I mean, you have Marjorie Taylor Greene, you have Tim Burchett, you have Lauren Bober and Apollina Luna.

00:28:20.000 And then you also have people like Rick Rinnell and Alice Johnson.

00:28:26.000 And then you have Matt Gates, who's a former congressman.

00:28:29.000 So there was a lot of people in the front line, but way more in the back end.

00:28:35.000 But it was like an effort.

00:28:37.000 But really, my family, my spouse, my sister, my attorney was absolutely relentless.

00:28:43.000 I mean, if you all need an attorney, get my attorney.

00:28:46.000 He goes to bat for you.

00:28:47.000 But most importantly, it's like, I didn't know.

00:28:49.000 I was actually filling out my commissary sheet for the week.

00:28:52.000 And then it came on the TV and that's how I found it.

00:28:54.000 You found out on TV.

00:28:55.000 Oh, yeah.

00:28:55.000 On MSNBC.

00:28:57.000 Were you in solitary or were you with other people?

00:28:58.000 I had just been released from solitary a couple of days before and reintegrated into the campus.

00:28:58.000 Oh, no, no.

00:29:02.000 Did everybody just like look at you?

00:29:03.000 No, they started screaming, like, bring him here.

00:29:06.000 That SOB has been holding out on us.

00:29:09.000 Come over here.

00:29:10.000 I'm like, oh, my God, what's going on?

00:29:12.000 I'm like, and I look at MSNBC.

00:29:13.000 Chiron said something along like, disgrace New York Republican George Santos coming out of jail.

00:29:18.000 Trump commuted his sentence. 1.00

00:29:20.000 I'm like, MSNBC's clearly lost their proverbial shit. 1.00

00:29:24.000 So I pick up the phone. 1.00

00:29:24.000 Sure. 1.00

00:29:25.000 I go to the phones.

00:29:26.000 I call home.

00:29:27.000 I'm like, what's going on?

00:29:28.000 And they're like, my partner goes like, I'm on my way to pick you up.

00:29:32.000 I just spoke to the president.

00:29:33.000 I'm like, wait, what?

00:29:34.000 You spoke to the president.

00:29:36.000 I've never spoken to the president on the phone.

00:29:38.000 I was like angry at that at first.

00:29:40.000 And I just lost.

00:29:41.000 I started crying. 1.00

00:29:42.000 I think this is a really good sign that Trump is done playing stupid games. 1.00

00:29:45.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

00:29:47.000 He tried to be very diplomatic in his first term.

00:29:49.000 The fact that he did not wait until the end of his second term, he was literally like, I don't care, just get him out of jail.

00:29:56.000 He's just like, we're doing this.

00:29:57.000 You know what?

00:29:58.000 Here's what I look at it.

00:29:59.000 After what Biden did, I think he, you know what? 1.00

00:30:03.000 Quite frankly, fuck you. 1.00

00:30:05.000 Like anybody who's like putching pearls. 1.00

00:30:07.000 I've gone every cable news network from Chris Cuomo, I mean, barely cable for News Nation, but I did Chris Cuomo to everyone else. 0.75

00:30:14.000 And they're all going nuts.

00:30:16.000 Like, you should be ashamed.

00:30:17.000 I'm like, wait, I should be ashamed for receiving clemency.

00:30:20.000 I thought the United States is all about second chances, but only for Hunter Biden, you know?

00:30:24.000 Oh, second.

00:30:25.000 Seventh?

00:30:26.000 Third.

00:30:27.000 I don't know, whatever.

00:30:28.000 I mean, look, I'm thankful, obviously.

00:30:31.000 And to say it's humbling, it's crazy, but it was definitely a surprise.

00:30:36.000 I did not know.

00:30:37.000 If I knew, trust me, I would totally know.

00:30:40.000 So, do you, of course, real quick, do you think you deserved seven and a half years?

00:30:44.000 Seven years and three months for essentially a campaign finance indictment.

00:30:51.000 If you look at all the elements of it, it was all campaign related from 2022 from my successful run for Congress, not my first one.

00:30:58.000 And no, I mean, Jesse Jackson Jr. went to prison for 30 months and he took three or four times what he stole outright from the taxpayer.

00:31:09.000 I put money towards, and then obviously there was misappropriation.

00:31:12.000 But the crazy part is I was the largest benefactor of my campaign because I put $700,000 of my own money in there.

00:31:20.000 So just real quick, what's your backstory as to how you were able to do it?

00:31:23.000 Do you have to run a business?

00:31:24.000 I mean, look, it's out in the public.

00:31:26.000 I mean, I've always been in the high assets market with private equity.

00:31:31.000 So working with a lot of high net worth individuals and family offices.

00:31:35.000 So I had a career in private equity for 10 years right before the campaign.

00:31:39.000 I mean, I sold a $22 million yacht with a waterfall, one of two, a Mangusta, beautiful Italian. 0.99

00:31:45.000 I'm not trying to sound like an asshole. 0.96

00:31:47.000 I know there were like allegations of you working at like Goldman Sachs and Citibank. 0.96

00:31:50.000 Did you work at these places?

00:31:51.000 I didn't work.

00:31:52.000 So that's the bigger part.

00:31:53.000 I didn't work for them, but I did do work with them.

00:31:56.000 And that was just more, that was literally more of an embellishing resume for the sake of making it look better.

00:32:01.000 But I never worked at the institutions.

00:32:03.000 That was definitely not true.

00:32:05.000 But I have worked in the private equity space since 2014.

00:32:11.000 So it's like 11 years in the space.

00:32:14.000 So like the reality is I made money.

00:32:19.000 That's clear.

00:32:19.000 I mean, you don't just people like to say, oh, those are probably stolen from campaign donors.

00:32:25.000 I'm like, dude, you guys must really think my entire life was a grift.

00:32:30.000 Why would you want to be in office? 1.00

00:32:31.000 It was the stupidest thing I've ever done. 0.99

00:32:33.000 I mean, I did it because I really thought you can change things from the inside when I got there. 1.00

00:32:37.000 I'm like, oh, this is a zoo.

00:32:39.000 This is theater, like literally theater.

00:32:41.000 I mean, I took the mat three months before going to Congress, I made $800,000.

00:32:49.000 And then I subjected myself to $174,000 a year.

00:32:54.000 Do you have any remorse for your crimes?

00:32:56.000 Of course I do. 0.99

00:32:57.000 Like, stupidest thing a human being can do is, first of all, I didn't need to do any of it. 1.00

00:32:57.000 Are you kidding? 1.00

00:33:02.000 I didn't.

00:33:03.000 I genuinely didn't need to.

00:33:04.000 You probably couldn't be rich.

00:33:05.000 Zimmerman otherwise.

00:33:06.000 Zimmerman.

00:33:07.000 I would have.

00:33:09.000 I was going to say something so bad.

00:33:10.000 Anyway, I could have curbstopped.

00:33:11.000 I was going to stop for 10 o'clock.

00:33:12.000 Yeah, I would have curb stomped Zimmerman 10 ways from Tuesdays with my freaking eyes closed because I was running against a senile candidate who's like 68 years old, fourth run, I think fourth run for Congress, if I'm not mistaken.

00:33:25.000 I was 34 years old. 0.63

00:33:26.000 I was running circles around him.

00:33:27.000 Like he was frail and old and just, you know, but I regret it because I didn't need to do it, but my ambition and my insecurities took over.

00:33:36.000 I was also fending off a primary opponent or a potential primary. 0.95

00:33:41.000 Everything just was like dumb and self, self-inflicted. 0.87

00:33:45.000 And if I could go backwards and do it again, I would do it so differently because A, people like to say, oh, he's only sorry because he got caught. 0.96

00:33:52.000 That's not true. 0.99

00:33:52.000 I'm sorry because it was A, stupid. 0.99

00:33:54.000 I caused a lot of pain, hurt, and disappointment to a lot of good people that I genuinely like that I'm probably never going to be able to square away that those relationships. 0.97

00:34:04.000 And, you know, I had a potential. 0.89

00:34:07.000 I had a really good career ahead of me and I blew it up and it was dumb. 0.96

00:34:10.000 And, you know, I have to live with it.

00:34:12.000 And not to mention the district that you were representing, New York's third.

00:34:16.000 It's like a flip district, you know, a purple district that you're looking at.

00:34:19.000 Long Island, one of these important districts on a super slim majority that the House had.

00:34:24.000 No, I get, I was part of giving the House a majority because they messed up all over the country, but then New York saved the majority.

00:34:30.000 Crucial.

00:34:30.000 And, you know, you were one of the supporting votes for Johnson, who I think was struggling to get the speakership at the time.

00:34:36.000 I was one of the ringleaders to create the consent.

00:34:39.000 The consensus was created.

00:34:41.000 Nobody likes to talk about the facts here.

00:34:43.000 The consensus for Mike Johnson for Speaker Johnson's was created by me, Lauren Boeber, and Matt Gates.

00:34:48.000 I don't care what anybody says.

00:34:50.000 Speaker Johnson was just Congressman Johnson.

00:34:52.000 We were going through Jim Jordan, Steve Scalise, Tom Emmer, and nobody would get a consensus.

00:34:58.000 Oh, you did this or you did that.

00:34:59.000 And there was like the tribes, right?

00:35:01.000 The families, as we call them, in the conference.

00:35:03.000 I went up to Johnson right off the bat and I said, you need to jump in.

00:35:07.000 He's like, oh, I can't do this.

00:35:09.000 I said, dude, you're the only person in the conference everybody likes.

00:35:13.000 Like, nobody has quarrels with you.

00:35:15.000 And he's like, I can't do this.

00:35:16.000 You know, I look up to Jim and to Steve.

00:35:18.000 They're like big brothers to me.

00:35:20.000 I'm like, sure, Mike, but you need to do it.

00:35:23.000 So I insist that I insisted after it all went to crap with Mike Johnson's, with what's his name?

00:35:30.000 Jim Jordan's three votes on the floor.

00:35:32.000 He texts me, I guess, like two or three days later in the morning after we recess and go home.

00:35:37.000 It's like, George, you know, I appreciate all the encouragement or something along those line.

00:35:40.000 I appreciate all the encouragement.

00:35:41.000 I've decided to throw my hat in the ring.

00:35:42.000 Do I still have your support?

00:35:43.000 I literally go, let's effing go.

00:35:46.000 I call Lauren Bobert.

00:35:47.000 I think it was like six o'clock in the morning because I'm that guy.

00:35:51.000 Like, I have the energy.

00:35:53.000 I'm up.

00:35:54.000 So I'm like, she's like, what happened?

00:35:56.000 Who died?

00:35:57.000 I'm like, nobody died.

00:35:57.000 Mike's in.

00:35:58.000 She starts screaming on the other line. 0.98

00:35:59.000 And that was off to the races.

00:36:01.000 Do you resent Johnson, the Speaker Johnson, after everything that passed now?

00:36:04.000 Not at all.

00:36:04.000 No, you know what?

00:36:05.000 I did for a while because I was feeding into the hatred inside of me that was really poisonous.

00:36:12.000 And I did say some things that I completely regret and take back.

00:36:15.000 And I've told him that very much personally and publicly.

00:36:19.000 I've spoken about it.

00:36:20.000 I think Mike Johnson did what he thought was the right thing to do is to let people vote their conscience.

00:36:25.000 And people thought in their conscience that, you know, they were so self-important that they were perfect.

00:36:29.000 And I had to go.

00:36:29.000 And here I am.

00:36:31.000 I'm, I can't respect it, but I'm a little disappointed.

00:36:35.000 We were talking about this a moment ago: the lack of unity.

00:36:39.000 Matt Walsh has been on the receiving end of heavy criticism for the past several weeks because he said he's willing to unite with anyone on the right to defeat the evil on the left.

00:36:47.000 And he said this after Charlie was killed and everyone praised him.

00:36:50.000 He said it again after these group chats got leaked and now he's getting flack.

00:36:55.000 And I'm just sitting here being like, okay, I hear you, moderate conservative Republicans, that you don't want to unite with, say, Nick Fundis or whoever.

00:37:03.000 But when George Santos was in Congress, all of these same people, not literally all of them, but a bunch of conservatives are like, nah, fire him.

00:37:11.000 And I'm like, they have Ilhan Omar and Rashida Talaib and these other people who say awful things and are very, very bad and they unify no matter what.

00:37:19.000 No, it's true.

00:37:20.000 I mean, look, they're backing Jay Jones in Virginia.

00:37:20.000 It's no matter what.

00:37:23.000 They're backing that guy with the Nazi tattoo in Maine.

00:37:25.000 Jay Jones.

00:37:26.000 Oh, the accidental Nazi tattoo gets covered up with dogs now.

00:37:29.000 Like, dude, you put dogs over the Nazi tattoo. 0.99

00:37:32.000 Like, you're a really bad dog. 0.99

00:37:34.000 Let's just lay that up. 1.00

00:37:35.000 Jay Jones said he wanted his rival's children to be murdered. 0.73

00:37:39.000 And if he had the option, it was that famous. 0.98

00:37:39.000 Yes. 0.98

00:37:42.000 It's what did he say?

00:37:43.000 Hitler poll pot and the Republican speaker. 0.82

00:37:45.000 And I had two bullets. 0.99

00:37:46.000 He said that he would shoot the Republican twice. 1.00

00:37:48.000 Twice. 0.95

00:37:49.000 And he lost only three points in the polls.

00:37:52.000 Stanberger still backs him.

00:37:53.000 The ACLU sent out, paid for mailers that went out, you know, and the ACLU doesn't endorse.

00:38:00.000 And you pointed out Johnson said, vote your conscience when it came to you.

00:38:04.000 And I'm like, listen, if I have to sit here and compare what you're accused of doing to the guy who called for the murder of his rival's children, I'll take the campaign finance violation guy.

00:38:15.000 Well, and the other thing, too, is the Democrats, like you were saying, they always unify.

00:38:19.000 They don't care who they're unifying around.

00:38:21.000 They will back anybody so long as they're part of their tribe.

00:38:25.000 And then all of a sudden, cult cult.

00:38:27.000 Yes.

00:38:28.000 Tribe.

00:38:28.000 We have a tribe.

00:38:29.000 They have a cult.

00:38:30.000 They have a cult.

00:38:30.000 Right.

00:38:31.000 But they're such a guy.

00:38:32.000 But they're like looking at a mirror.

00:38:33.000 So they're like, oh, Colt, it's Coltis.

00:38:35.000 You're looking at your reflection.

00:38:35.000 I'm like, I know, I know.

00:38:37.000 But the thing, but it's crazy.

00:38:38.000 And now we have people doing all this infighting among the conservative side.

00:38:43.000 And it's like, guys, they have guns.

00:38:45.000 Like, they're killing our guys.

00:38:47.000 They, they killed Charlie, you know, children.

00:38:50.000 They killed children.

00:38:51.000 They're doing all of this stuff.

00:38:52.000 And we're just like, yeah, but, you know, a bunch of kids said some goofy stuff on a text.

00:38:58.000 I'll say this about the kids in the schools.

00:39:01.000 I'm going to try to steal, man, as much as I can because when you go that direction, they'll then try and claim that white supremacists are right wing.

00:39:09.000 So I say, okay, hold on.

00:39:11.000 The alleged assassin in the killing of Charlie Kirk, the ideology is identical to Ocasio-Cortez, who went on the House floor and smeared Charlie Kirk's good name, what, like a week after he was murdered.

00:39:25.000 Absolutely.

00:39:26.000 The concern that I have is that the No Kings protesters on the street saying kill ICE agents, the far left and liberals and liberals who are shooting up Tesla.

00:39:37.000 It is the exact same ideology as the mainstream Democratic Party.

00:39:41.000 Now, when they say the right has their extremists, no, no, no, hold on there, guys, draw a minute.

00:39:46.000 There is no moderate conservative with an extremist ideology.

00:39:50.000 It doesn't exist. 0.95

00:39:52.000 If you come to me and you say, why don't you condemn the evil white supremacist? 0.98

00:39:56.000 Done. 0.91

00:39:57.000 Literally everybody does.

00:39:58.000 Charlie does, Trump does.

00:39:59.000 But when it comes to the far left extremists, they say, sure, it was bad, but he was right ideologically.

00:40:04.000 Well, they also, they also, in their studies, they say that jihad is right-wing.

00:40:09.000 You know, anti-government is right-wing.

00:40:11.000 Yeah, anti-government is right-wing.

00:40:13.000 And they don't include Tesla dealerships.

00:40:15.000 They say that's economic crime.

00:40:18.000 They say that the riots or BLM riots wasn't left-wing.

00:40:21.000 Right.

00:40:22.000 Left is only when they're marketing.

00:40:23.000 They're like nationalist or something.

00:40:24.000 Yeah.

00:40:25.000 So they're very specific about what they classify as left-wing violence because they don't want to.

00:40:25.000 Right.

00:40:29.000 Yes, exactly.

00:40:30.000 They get to cherry pick.

00:40:31.000 We don't.

00:40:31.000 Like, they pigeonhole us to their narrative, but when we try to do the same back.

00:40:35.000 No, no, no, that's not.

00:40:37.000 It's like when the transgender dude in what was that, Ohio? 1.00

00:40:42.000 No, no, no, the one from 2023 that went into the Christian school.

00:40:45.000 Nashville, the coverage.

00:40:46.000 Was that Nashville?

00:40:47.000 There you go.

00:40:48.000 That was a girl, Audrey Hale.

00:40:50.000 It was a trans person who was completely out of their rocker. 1.00

00:40:54.000 Like 99% of trans people who are like, oh my God, please accept me, me, who I couldn't accept a genitalia. 0.99

00:41:01.000 I was freaking born with, goes in there, kills kids, and they actually, not a word comes out of their mouth. 0.99

00:41:08.000 That drives me absolutely insane. 0.96

00:41:09.000 Well, it's not just that not a word came out of their mouths.

00:41:11.000 They were defending her.

00:41:12.000 They were saying, oh, it's so hard to be trans.

00:41:15.000 Yeah, so you're going to justify murder. 0.86

00:41:17.000 It's like, look, as a gay man, it stresses me out because I am being put with these people who clearly have a mental health disorder that I do not do. 0.60

00:41:27.000 I might be crazy in my own terms, but it has nothing to do with my sexual orientation, right? 0.88

00:41:32.000 These people literally fight their own body because they're so sick and we're not treating them.

00:41:37.000 Also, if you look at like statistics of, you know, homosexuality, that pretty much stays static throughout the years, throughout the decades.

00:41:46.000 Trans goes up and down. 0.99

00:41:47.000 Trans goes up and down. 0.99

00:41:48.000 Because it's a fad.

00:41:49.000 Because it's a fad.

00:41:50.000 It's like, I remember when I was in high school.

00:41:52.000 When I was in high school, I remember this year, all the girls went lesbian.

00:41:57.000 Every single girl.

00:41:59.000 I'm older than you.

00:42:00.000 Maybe the guys were just chopped that year.

00:42:01.000 No, it was just really bad.

00:42:03.000 All the girls are like dating each other. 1.00

00:42:06.000 All of them are now married with kids and children.

00:42:08.000 I'm like, I'm like, oh, okay.

00:42:09.000 So I guess it was a fad.

00:42:11.000 It was a four-year lesbian thing when I was in college. 1.00

00:42:13.000 It was like.

00:42:14.000 My point, you know, like, so it's just like, I think this is it.

00:42:17.000 But the problem with this, it's so demonic and dangerous.

00:42:20.000 Like, I literally see these videos of little boys with their mothers and like getting injections, hormone blockers.

00:42:26.000 I'm like, it is demonic.

00:42:28.000 Tim Burcher shared one the other day and he literally quipped it demonic.

00:42:32.000 I was like, bad goosebumps.

00:42:34.000 And the Charlie Kirk assassination happened so quickly after the shooting of the Catholic children in Minneapolis that people almost memory hold it.

00:42:43.000 But if you take a look at the illustrations in that man's journal, you will see that his self-portrait is that of Baphomet.

00:42:51.000 He sees himself as a demon and he was clearly possessed.

00:42:55.000 I will say the last shooting victim came home from the hospital today, the 12-year-old girl who was shot in the head and they had turbulent part of her skull.

00:43:03.000 She came home.

00:43:04.000 It's a long road to recovery, but it seems like a little bit of a miracle going.

00:43:08.000 It's actually good news.

00:43:09.000 It's really good news.

00:43:10.000 Amen.

00:43:11.000 Let's jump to the story from the Daily Mail.

00:43:13.000 Chilling messages reveal how mafia henchmen allegedly threatened and attacked victims of their rigged NBA poker games.

00:43:22.000 This is the, it's a crazy story.

00:43:23.000 It's like out of an action movie.

00:43:24.000 It's just nuts.

00:43:25.000 The FBI claims it uncovered a decades-long mafia-led poker ring.

00:43:29.000 The alleged scheme involved professional athletes, including Portland Trailblazers head coach Chauncey Billips, being used as, quote, face cards to attract victims to the table where high-tech methods were used by the mafia to rig the games, says the indictment.

00:43:45.000 And I am proud to say, for the loyal viewers of Timcast, you would not have been fleeced by this because we talked about this two years ago.

00:43:52.000 Two years ago.

00:43:53.000 In one instance, Jen Hu, 37 from Brooklyn, sent chilling messages to an alleged victim of the ring, identified as John Doe Five for not paying up.

00:44:02.000 Yeah, you not going to pay me?

00:44:03.000 Who asked in a message on November 5th, which he swiftly followed by saying another message, all right, bet.

00:44:10.000 Is that him right there?

00:44:13.000 So I guess the do mob enforcers are Asian now. 0.94

00:44:17.000 That's actually interesting.

00:44:18.000 Is it Asian mafia? 0.56

00:44:19.000 He says, watch what's good now.

00:44:21.000 You've been running your mouth unchecked, he warned.

00:44:23.000 In the days that followed, the diamond claims, who is said to have made good on his threat when he allegedly assaulted Doe Five, quote, I punched somebody in the face the other day.

00:44:32.000 Ish unraveling quick, he told the unnamed recipient.

00:44:36.000 Now, we've got this video right here from Timcast News.

00:44:40.000 This is Solve for Why.

00:44:42.000 This is, I believe this is Matt Berkey on his podcast talking about this.

00:44:47.000 He's a pro poker player talking about how these games were run and what they found.

00:44:50.000 Listen to this.

00:44:51.000 There are a lot of stories about it.

00:44:55.000 There's one that cropped up.

00:44:58.000 This must have been like five years ago, 2019-ish, I think.

00:45:02.000 Four years ago.

00:45:04.000 Where there was this game.

00:45:06.000 It started in LA and then it came to Vegas.

00:45:09.000 for a few days and it was all built around Chauncey Phillips.

00:45:13.000 And I had heard about the game and the person who told me about it was like, look, I know the game runners.

00:45:20.000 I'm telling you 100% this game is on the up and up.

00:45:24.000 And I was like, well, I know a lot of the people that are involved and I'm telling you 100% that it is not on the up and up.

00:45:32.000 And, you know, we kind of went back and forth and I agreed that like I just wasn't going to go play it.

00:45:37.000 But I had some friends who went and played it both in LA and in Vegas.

00:45:43.000 And it obviously was for sure confirmed to be cheated.

00:45:48.000 Like people who clearly didn't even understand the rules of No Limit Hold'em are just like jamming hundreds of big blinds in with like a gutty and then just thrilling it.

00:46:01.000 Only the pros are losing.

00:46:04.000 How is it figured out?

00:46:05.000 Like it just.

00:46:06.000 So that's the gist of it, where we're getting this story.

00:46:11.000 They'd invite people in and I'll translate a little bit what he said when he said hundreds of big blinds.

00:46:17.000 Just he's saying lots of money and a gutty is a very unlikely probability to win.

00:46:22.000 He was saying people who didn't know what they were doing were playing ridiculous bets and they were defeating all the pros.

00:46:27.000 The New York Times says that what they would do, this is wild.

00:46:31.000 What is it?

00:46:32.000 High-tech sophisticated technology like from the movie Oceans 13.

00:46:37.000 The machine that shuffled the cards was not just randomly mixing them up.

00:46:40.000 It had technology hidden inside that could read the cards in the deck, predict which player had the best hand and relay that information to somebody off-site.

00:46:47.000 That person would then use a cell phone to communicate the intel to someone at the table who would steer the other cheating players with secret signals like tapping certain chips or body parts.

00:46:57.000 In some of the rigged games, the poker chip trays had hidden cameras that could read the cards on the table.

00:47:03.000 That one doesn't seem to make sense to me, but we can speculate, I guess.

00:47:08.000 The cards also sometimes had markings that were visible only to people wearing specially designed contact lenses or sunglasses.

00:47:14.000 I will stress, we have those playing cards.

00:47:16.000 Really?

00:47:16.000 Yeah, they're marked with on the back of each card is a very big number that can only be seen if you're wearing UV glasses or contact lenses.

00:47:25.000 We have them as a gag because we are filming a comedy bit or something.

00:47:28.000 But legit, the sunglasses are purple.

00:47:31.000 You put them on.

00:47:32.000 Everything looks purple.

00:47:33.000 And the back of every playing card looks just like this.

00:47:35.000 You'll see a big purple number.

00:47:38.000 Yes, you'll know exactly what they have.

00:47:40.000 I would love a deck like that at Blackjack.

00:47:43.000 Wouldn't people be tipped off, though, if people are wearing the glasses?

00:47:47.000 Not if they're detectable.

00:47:50.000 But they're purple.

00:47:53.000 So how do you not tell?

00:47:54.000 Because people don't know to look for these things.

00:47:56.000 And a lot of poker players wear sunglasses when they're playing.

00:47:58.000 It's very common.

00:47:59.000 They wear the sunglasses.

00:48:01.000 Purple ones.

00:48:02.000 Today on the culture, we had Doug Polk, obviously legendary poker player.

00:48:06.000 And he said, he's like, in my entire career, I've never played a house game because he's like, there's just too many spots to look out for.

00:48:14.000 I got to challenge him, though, because I watched the interview you did with Doug Polk.

00:48:17.000 Shout out to Doug Polk.

00:48:18.000 He's probably one of the most famous, if not the most famous players right now, because he's got a big YouTube presence.

00:48:23.000 But he said, if you're playing a game, if you're playing a home game, which is like a private game, which is very, very common, and you see a shuffle machine, you should be worried.

00:48:31.000 It's incorrect.

00:48:32.000 If you see a Deckmate 2 shuffle machine, because those have cameras inside of them, this is a security feature, actually, so you can tell if someone's adding cards or changing the structure of the deck.

00:48:44.000 It'll warn you and it'll spit the deck back out. 0.61

00:48:46.000 But hackers figured out two years ago how to plug something into the USB or Ethernet port.

00:48:51.000 And that camera, it tracks the position of every card.

00:48:54.000 And then it sends the, once the deck is shuffled, it sends it out to a random person.

00:48:58.000 It can send it out to any person they want through Bluetooth.

00:49:01.000 And then we talked about this a couple years ago when it happened.

00:49:03.000 On Timcast IRL, researchers in Vegas at DEF CON, the hacker convention, said they figured this out.

00:49:10.000 And a bunch of commenters and people were saying, but they still cut the deck.

00:49:13.000 That doesn't change the order of the cards.

00:49:15.000 It changes the order of two cards.

00:49:17.000 It's true.

00:49:18.000 So long as any, so anybody who has access to the deck information from the hack machine, when they see the first visible cards that come out on the board, it's called the flop, they know what card everyone has.

00:49:30.000 And if you're in hand, meaning like you've got cards, you're playing the game and you're wearing headphones, you can look down at your cards.

00:49:37.000 You can easily relay that information in a million different ways, and then your person who's sitting a table over can tell you if you're going to win or not.

00:49:44.000 Here's what gets crazy about this is they didn't need to do it.

00:49:48.000 This is what I don't understand about this story.

00:49:51.000 It sounds like I'll put it like this. 0.98

00:49:53.000 I bet if you went to Matt Berkey or Doug Polk and said, you want to rip off a bunch of morons at a high-stakes game with Chauncey Billips and other pro athletes, how would you do it? 0.98

00:50:02.000 They'd be like, we'd invite fish to come play poker. 0.99

00:50:07.000 Like, we're going to crush them.

00:50:08.000 There's nothing they can do.

00:50:10.000 It sounds like the mob was like, let's cheat them because they didn't know how to play poker.

00:50:16.000 I feel like you go to anybody who knows how to play poker and they're going to be like, oh, we'll run a game at the table.

00:50:20.000 You get two players, play on a team, and you basically just, you can play.

00:50:26.000 I'll try to keep the example really simple, but two players at one table can do a handful of things from very, very technically above board to super illicit.

00:50:37.000 There was a cheating ring at MGM National Harbor.

00:50:40.000 This is what I was told by the people who worked there.

00:50:43.000 It was three guys.

00:50:44.000 They play at one table, and they had a way to tap information about the cards they had to each other.

00:50:52.000 So a guy looks down at his hand and he sees a hand that's very bad.

00:50:55.000 Let's say ace seven off suit.

00:50:56.000 Like, yeah, you got an ace.

00:50:57.000 That's pretty good.

00:50:58.000 But you're not suited.

00:50:59.000 You can't do any of the seven and you're facing a race. 0.99

00:51:01.000 You don't want to play it.

00:51:02.000 However, he wants to let his buddy know he's folding an ace.

00:51:06.000 So he would tap a chip.

00:51:07.000 There's a lot easier ways to cheat than using high-tech RFID scanner tables and hidden cameras and all sorts of nonsense.

00:51:16.000 And additionally, the crazy thing is you don't need to cheat.

00:51:21.000 It's very common in Vegas.

00:51:22.000 They'll invite Chinese millionaires and billionaires to play these games where they know they're going to win and the Chinese millionaires and billionaires are going to lose. 0.96

00:51:29.000 But these Chinese, like these guys from Macau, they're like, I literally don't care if I lose $5 million. 1.00

00:51:34.000 Yo, Macau is why don't they care?

00:51:36.000 How did they get so much?

00:51:37.000 They just have so much money. 0.82

00:51:38.000 I mean, Macau is just nuts.

00:51:40.000 I played Blackjack and Macau on a trip to Asia, a business trip, and it's scary.

00:51:46.000 It's very intimidating.

00:51:47.000 I only play Blackjack, for instance, in high limit rooms because it's hand-shuffled.

00:51:53.000 I will not play.

00:51:54.000 You're talking about machines.

00:51:55.000 I just don't feel comfortable because the machines can line up the cards, like you just said.

00:51:59.000 I just don't feel comfortable playing.

00:52:01.000 Only there are specific machines that can.

00:52:04.000 I don't know if the deckmate one can.

00:52:07.000 I just, I'm not interested in a machine shuffle at all.

00:52:09.000 I will not play.

00:52:10.000 Oh, bro, don't play hand shuffle.

00:52:12.000 I only play hand shuffle and it works.

00:52:14.000 That's the easiest to rig, bro.

00:52:16.000 Even I can card track.

00:52:17.000 So well for me.

00:52:19.000 I mean, if you're at a casino, you got nothing to worry about, hand shuffle or otherwise.

00:52:24.000 But if you're playing anything private.

00:52:26.000 Oh, yeah, no, that's, that's just anything private.

00:52:28.000 Not my cup of tea.

00:52:29.000 This is what I was saying about what Doug.

00:52:30.000 I would suggest if you're playing private, you want to see a deckmate one.

00:52:33.000 It just litters as deckmate on it because those, as far as we know, can't really be manipulated.

00:52:37.000 There's no internal camera to track which card's going where.

00:52:40.000 Deckmate two is a excuse me as a camera.

00:52:43.000 And bro, card tracking.

00:52:45.000 Like when you watch Penn and Tellers Fool Me or whatever, and you've got people pulling card tricks, it's not magic.

00:52:51.000 They're not doing illusions.

00:52:53.000 They're tracking cards, yeah.

00:52:54.000 It's literally, there's 52 cards.

00:52:55.000 It's extremely easy to memorize where one card is going to end up when you cut the deck perfectly in the middle and then count to where it was.

00:53:02.000 And there's a guy that I follow on Instagram.

00:53:03.000 He's one of the best, if not the best in the world.

00:53:05.000 I think you pronounce the name Jason Ladaney.

00:53:07.000 I recommend you guys check out his videos.

00:53:09.000 This guy is a master card tracker.

00:53:12.000 And people think it's an illusion, a sleight of hand, or a magic trick.

00:53:16.000 I'm not going to try and speak for him because I don't know exactly how he does all of the tricks.

00:53:19.000 Some of it is.

00:53:20.000 But I'm fairly certain this guy literally just knows the position of every card.

00:53:25.000 He's been doing it for decades.

00:53:28.000 You hire this guy to deal for you.

00:53:30.000 Not him because he's a performer, but there are people who can do this.

00:53:33.000 You sit down at one of these games.

00:53:34.000 I'm like, they don't need machines to do this.

00:53:36.000 They could have literally got a magician to deal out hands.

00:53:41.000 They don't need a machine.

00:53:42.000 And you can never trace it.

00:53:43.000 You can't prove somebody was a magician.

00:53:46.000 So why do you think they did all this?

00:53:48.000 Because the mafia didn't understand poker.

00:53:51.000 Right?

00:53:52.000 I think it's wild that the mafia is still there.

00:53:54.000 I'm actually shocked to see like Gambling.

00:53:55.000 Macosa Nostra.

00:53:57.000 I mean, Gambino.

00:54:00.000 Classics.

00:54:01.000 Yeah, the classics.

00:54:02.000 These are old names.

00:54:04.000 Who did we have on the show?

00:54:05.000 Francesi, is that his name?

00:54:07.000 Probably pronouncing his name wrong.

00:54:08.000 That sounds like a decent pronunciation.

00:54:11.000 But he was saying the mob never went anywhere.

00:54:13.000 They're just lying low.

00:54:14.000 They don't want to get, they don't want to, they want to do business.

00:54:17.000 It was a mistake when they were all John Gotti, high profile, all that stuff.

00:54:22.000 I mean, the more nuts and the Persicas and all of them, I mean, but it's crazy. 1.00

00:54:27.000 Well, the Godfather made it all so cool, you know?

00:54:30.000 And too much exposure, but reading that and seeing their names was not so many.

00:54:35.000 Let me throw this in there.

00:54:36.000 There's actually two regular jets that I think are really, really good.

00:54:38.000 One is about gambling.

00:54:39.000 One's about J.B., which I definitely want to talk about in this context.

00:54:42.000 But someone said, Tim, explain how playing poker for money isn't gambling.

00:54:45.000 It depends on your definition of gambling.

00:54:47.000 It's a stock market gambling.

00:54:48.000 We hear that all the time.

00:54:49.000 But the issue is this.

00:54:50.000 If you enter a fishing tournament, are you gambling?

00:54:52.000 Technically, in some instances, according to the IRS, it is gambling.

00:54:55.000 But you might be saying, like, hold on.

00:54:57.000 What do you mean?

00:54:58.000 I'm good at fishing.

00:55:00.000 I paid $100 to enter the tournament.

00:55:02.000 All I got to do now is catch a bigger and more fish than the other guy and I win.

00:55:06.000 And then the IRS says, can you control how many fish are in the water?

00:55:09.000 No.

00:55:11.000 Can you control the size of the fish you catch?

00:55:12.000 No.

00:55:13.000 Can you control how much money will be put in the pot that will be paid out for the tournament?

00:55:16.000 No.

00:55:17.000 So you actually can't control all these circumstances.

00:55:20.000 That's actually legally gambling in a lot of circumstances.

00:55:23.000 Gambling winnings, whether it be blackjack or tournaments, falls into the same category, which is, I think it's called W-2G or something like this.

00:55:31.000 So the question around poker has longly been debated because poker is considered social poker, like Texas Holdham, PLO, Hilo, Pineapple, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera.

00:55:39.000 They're considered to be skill games.

00:55:41.000 I'll put it this way.

00:55:43.000 If you want to play a game of war with somebody, everyone gets one card and whoever's the high card wins.

00:55:49.000 Okay, that's gambling.

00:55:51.000 You want to play blackjack?

00:55:52.000 You don't know what you're going to get?

00:55:53.000 You're gambling.

00:55:57.000 You want to play a game of PLO against me?

00:56:00.000 I guarantee you most people listening are like, I don't know what PLO is.

00:56:03.000 How can you win a game you don't know how to play against another person?

00:56:06.000 It's a completely a skill game.

00:56:08.000 Then the question is, okay, it's called Pot Limit Omaha.

00:56:11.000 You want to play a game of Pot Limit Omaha against me?

00:56:13.000 Heads up.

00:56:14.000 What's the best hand?

00:56:15.000 What cards are you looking for that you're going to wager money on?

00:56:17.000 Okay, it's a skill game.

00:56:17.000 You don't actually know.

00:56:19.000 And so professionals in Texas Holdham, which is substantially more popular, they know almost all of the math for the cards that you get and the position you're in and the likelihood you're going to win.

00:56:30.000 And that's the game they're playing.

00:56:32.000 Several studies have been done that found around 80% of all winning hands are not the game-winning hand.

00:56:38.000 It was the play of the player.

00:56:40.000 That being said, because I definitely want to answer that.

00:56:41.000 Someone brought up J.B. Pritzker, so I definitely want to talk about J.B. Pritzker.

00:56:45.000 You guys heard?

00:56:46.000 Was this this 1.4 million in black jackets?

00:56:48.000 $1.4 million.

00:56:49.000 No, no, no, not on blackjack.

00:56:50.000 He never said.

00:56:51.000 No, he didn't.

00:56:52.000 Just cards.

00:56:52.000 He said cards.

00:56:53.000 He said cards because he's clever.

00:56:55.000 But it was one trip, right?

00:56:57.000 One trip and he won $1.4 million.

00:56:59.000 So let's talk about how J.B. Pritzker, governor of Illinois, somehow made 14% of his yearly income in one weekend in Vegas.

00:56:59.000 Okay.

00:57:09.000 I'm sorry, man.

00:57:11.000 I am a card player, okay?

00:57:12.000 I play blackjack.

00:57:14.000 I play, I don't play three-card poker.

00:57:15.000 It's a terrible game with miserable odds.

00:57:17.000 I like Mississippi, Cajun, for those that don't know.

00:57:20.000 I like Texas Holdham.

00:57:21.000 I like playing some PLO sometimes.

00:57:23.000 I play cards.

00:57:24.000 And I'm going to tell you right now, I call shenanigans on this Pritzker making $1.4 million when his income was reported at $10 million.

00:57:32.000 Okay.

00:57:33.000 The Times said it was Blackjack.

00:57:35.000 So look at his actual video.

00:57:37.000 He didn't actually say it.

00:57:38.000 I'm pretty sure his quote was, I went to Vegas and got lucky on cards.

00:57:41.000 I've gotten lucky on cards, not $1.4 million.

00:57:44.000 And so pretty aggressively in the past.

00:57:46.000 So we can say if you've got to take JB to play Blackjack.

00:57:50.000 So my understanding is homie's a billionaire, right? 1.00

00:57:53.000 He's a rich man.

00:57:54.000 It's entirely possible.

00:57:55.000 It's entirely possible that he went to Vegas.

00:57:59.000 He's worth a ridiculous amount of money.

00:58:02.000 And he said, I'm going to take out $10 million to play with.

00:58:04.000 Entirely possible, right?

00:58:06.000 You see reported winnings of $1.4 million.

00:58:08.000 Maybe he lost $3 million, won $1.4 back.

00:58:08.000 Why?

00:58:12.000 And he doesn't want to tell people.

00:58:15.000 I got to be honest, if you're running for office, there's a lot of members of Congress who play poker.

00:58:22.000 And whenever I ask him, if like, would you want to play a game, maybe go on stream?

00:58:25.000 They're like, oh, no, no, no, no, I couldn't do that.

00:58:26.000 I couldn't do that.

00:58:27.000 Because it makes you look bad for re-election.

00:58:29.000 The number one cardinal rule of office is do not show people your means and your ability to go play a game and lose tens of thousands of dollars when people can't even equate sometimes the summation of $100,000 to make their bills.

00:58:43.000 You're asking, and you're saying, I need you to donate to me and I need your vote.

00:58:47.000 And can you send me five bucks?

00:58:49.000 Yeah, the asking for money when you can afford to lose thousands.

00:58:49.000 It's not a good look.

00:58:52.000 You know, I got that thrown at me a lot when I was running because I did give my campaign $700,000.

00:58:58.000 And a lot of people, like, you know, the grassroot people, they'd be like, well, if you gave yourself that much money, why do you need my $5?

00:59:05.000 It's a very, you know, it's a tight rope.

00:59:07.000 You're like, because it's not enough and I don't have any more.

00:59:10.000 Or, well, if you gave $700, that means you can put more.

00:59:13.000 Like, there's this dichotomy to it.

00:59:14.000 So the last thing you want, and you're right on the money, the last thing JB Pritzker wants is to go and say, well, this wasn't actually a winning.

00:59:22.000 I actually lost $1.6 million.

00:59:27.000 So actually, you can look at it this way too.

00:59:31.000 Here's what I think.

00:59:34.000 The most ideal situation for J.B. Pritzker would be to say, those are recorded winnings.

00:59:40.000 My recorded losses were also around 1.4 million.

00:59:44.000 I actually only ended up with an extra $100.

00:59:47.000 So, what happens in any kind of gaming is if I bet $100 on blackjack and then I win $100, I now have two.

00:59:54.000 Then I make another bet and lose, my winnings are $100, my losings are $100, and I've made $0.

01:00:00.000 The ideal circumstance for Pritzker would be to come out and say, it's actually a break-even game.

01:00:04.000 Winnings are reported, but losses were also reported.

01:00:06.000 The only thing is, that wasn't what it was.

01:00:09.000 He came out on top.

01:00:10.000 He doesn't want to come out and say, I pulled $10 million out of the bank, screwed around, willing to risk $10 million, and then ended up just coming out with another million bucks while Chicago burns.

01:00:20.000 While Chicago burns.

01:00:21.000 That's what you were just saying.

01:00:22.000 Most people cannot fathom $10 million.

01:00:25.000 But I want to say something else because I'm pretty sure he wasn't playing Blackjack, but I could be wrong.

01:00:29.000 Do you want to try and look up what he actually said in the interview, the full quote?

01:00:31.000 Yeah, I'm just seeing where the Times said blackjack, but they don't have it in quotes.

01:00:36.000 Because he said he's a card player, and that's why he does poker games.

01:00:39.000 So when someone says I got lucky in cards, I think poker, not blackjack.

01:00:43.000 Although some people were saying blackjack, maybe that's I because I, okay, we got to pull up his quote.

01:00:50.000 Let me get this.

01:00:51.000 What was anybody who played who's played cards in a casino knows that you often play for too long and lose whatever it is that you won?

01:00:59.000 I was fortunate enough to have to leave before that happened.

01:01:06.000 Okay, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.

01:01:08.000 And of the people who contributed.

01:01:11.000 Okay, quote: He said, I went on vacation with my wife, with some friends.

01:01:15.000 I was incredibly lucky.

01:01:16.000 You have to be to end up ahead, frankly, going to a casino anywhere.

01:01:19.000 It was in Las Vegas, and I like to play cards.

01:01:22.000 I've made this point a million and one times.

01:01:25.000 So for all the people out there who are like, Tim, we don't care about poker, you're now all of a sudden going, Hey, wait a minute.

01:01:30.000 Hold on there a minute.

01:01:32.000 Wasn't Tim talking about this like six months ago?

01:01:35.000 Somebody wants to bribe a politician, right?

01:01:41.000 So the lobbyist goes to a poker game at a casino with a no-max, means there's no maximum buy-in.

01:01:48.000 And he says, I want to play $100,000.

01:01:51.000 The recipient, say they're running a super PAC or a member of Congress or something like that, says, I too will play a high-stakes game with tens of thousands of dollars.

01:02:02.000 Bribe Er says, I'm going to bet $15,000 on these two really good cards.

01:02:08.000 Recipient then says, Oh, yeah, I'm all in.

01:02:12.000 The guy with the bribe now has a choice.

01:02:14.000 He can match the amount of money this guy raised or fold or fold.

01:02:19.000 And so he's trying to bribe him.

01:02:20.000 So he goes, Rats, I was bluffing.

01:02:22.000 You win.

01:02:22.000 Throws his cards into the muck.

01:02:24.000 Nobody can see what he had.

01:02:25.000 And the dealer will shuffle the $15,000 over to the person receiving the bribe.

01:02:30.000 And then when the person who got the bribe is asked, what'd you get?

01:02:32.000 He says, got lucky playing cards in Vegas one weekend.

01:02:36.000 Thank you for teaching people how to take bribes now.

01:02:38.000 Great.

01:02:38.000 Now we got to watch out casinos for politicians.

01:02:41.000 I just got to say, I question how J.B. Pritzker made a $1.4 million in a weekend.

01:02:45.000 And I want to stress, there's a very high, like, if you ever watch Dana White play blackjack, he wins millions of dollars in a weekend.

01:02:51.000 So Pritzker may just be a billionaire who pulled out 20 million bucks.

01:02:57.000 He has an infinite amount of money compared to most people.

01:03:00.000 The struggle here for me is I've played blackjack pretty aggressively in my life.

01:03:05.000 I mean, to a detriment even, and I agree with him.

01:03:08.000 If you don't know when to stop, you will give everything back.

01:03:11.000 You're going to have the luckiest night ever.

01:03:13.000 You will give every penny back.

01:03:14.000 It's happened.

01:03:15.000 I mean, I've been up hundreds of thousands of dollars only to turn around and leave at a loss.

01:03:21.000 And again, starting with like 10 grand and just getting really lucky, playing for hours, I've sat, the longest I've sat at a blackjack table was 16 hours, which is psychotic.

01:03:29.000 Gambling is degenerate.

01:03:31.000 It is a sin.

01:03:32.000 Oh, God.

01:03:33.000 All of these crowd stories should exemplify.

01:03:36.000 Wait, please.

01:03:37.000 Should exemplify why you shouldn't gamble.

01:03:39.000 Gambling in these casinos and sports betting, it acts as a regressive tax on the poorest in our societies.

01:03:46.000 There's a saying that the casino always wins, and it's true because the house always wins.

01:03:50.000 The house always wins.

01:03:51.000 And it's because they have an edge over you, and you should abstain from sin when possible.

01:03:55.000 I agree.

01:03:55.000 Now, define gambling.

01:03:57.000 So there's a spectrum to it, right?

01:03:58.000 If you're gambling with, like, say, phishing is your example, or like Pokemon cards and buying Pokemon cards is a good thing.

01:04:04.000 It's actually easily definable.

01:04:05.000 I'm not asking to play trick question.

01:04:07.000 Gambling is when you enter in a game of chance for which you can't control the outcome.

01:04:11.000 So if you're betting, do you ever have fun, though?

01:04:11.000 Yeah.

01:04:14.000 That's the question.

01:04:15.000 I don't think you have a lot of fun.

01:04:16.000 You got to have fun.

01:04:17.000 No, I think poor people struggle and then they go to casinos because they think it's easy to get.

01:04:21.000 But that's what they end up looking at.

01:04:22.000 That's more often than not.

01:04:24.000 I understand you're incorrect.

01:04:25.000 In what part?

01:04:26.000 The majority of people who are going to casinos aren't thinking they're going to hit it rich.

01:04:29.000 Some people do, and they've got an addiction.

01:04:31.000 Most people will sit down, have no idea what's going on, play, chuckle, and then leave.

01:04:34.000 Yeah, okay.

01:04:35.000 I think it's a regressive tax on the poorest people.

01:04:37.000 I'm going to push back.

01:04:38.000 I think that's regressive.

01:04:40.000 I think it's bad we have this many casinos.

01:04:42.000 I think we need substantially less.

01:04:43.000 We were better off when it was just Vegas and Atlantic City.

01:04:46.000 Completely agree.

01:04:46.000 I mean, now we have a great phones.

01:04:48.000 That's just worst.

01:04:48.000 Even worse than that.

01:04:50.000 That's the absolute thing.

01:04:51.000 Do not gamble on your phones.

01:04:53.000 Gambling is bad.

01:04:54.000 It's a sin.

01:04:55.000 I'm glad we could agree that it's degenerate.

01:04:56.000 Mary, do you have any take on that?

01:04:59.000 Well, I mean, like, it is a growing problem, especially with even teenagers that are gambling on their smartphones.

01:05:06.000 You're gambling in Fortnite.

01:05:07.000 They've noted that obviously tourism in Vegas is way down because nobody needs to go to Vegas or anything.

01:05:14.000 I like when I go to Vegas once a year in order to gamble.

01:05:17.000 They just do it in their bedrooms, and I don't think it should be legal.

01:05:21.000 I mean, to me, hold on, hold on.

01:05:22.000 There's only a handful of states that have actually legalized like online casinos.

01:05:25.000 Pennsylvania is like five states.

01:05:28.000 Sports betting.

01:05:29.000 Sporting a lot of people aren't.

01:05:32.000 I agree.

01:05:32.000 I'm saying online casinos.

01:05:32.000 No, no, no.

01:05:34.000 We should not allow these online casinos.

01:05:37.000 Not to mention that we've not decriminalized, we've legalized sports betting.

01:05:41.000 And what does that mean?

01:05:42.000 It means that there's the power of capitalism behind it.

01:05:44.000 And I don't mean to sound like socialists.

01:05:46.000 No, but Santos, let me finish.

01:05:46.000 No, no, no, no.

01:05:48.000 The issue here is that we could advertise to impressionable young kids who are watching ESPN and just like sports, but then we're, you know, we're telling them on ESPN and Sports Center that, oh, the odds, like, I don't care about the sports odd for my sports.

01:05:59.000 Sports has become tainted so much by this BS gambling.

01:06:02.000 You're correct.

01:06:03.000 That is true.

01:06:04.000 I give you that.

01:06:05.000 You should abstain from this sin, Mr. Santos.

01:06:08.000 3% of government's collective taxes come from gambling.

01:06:12.000 And that's a big deal, right?

01:06:14.000 The reason we legalize gambling in this country is to tax it.

01:06:18.000 Or else you were just going to let, I guess, the Gambino crime family keep all the proceeds. 1.00

01:06:21.000 I mean, I'm being very difference between promoting online.

01:06:24.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.

01:06:25.000 Let's go back to like prohibition era and go back.

01:06:28.000 We banned alcohol and then the entire underground movement of alcohol took all the tax revenue.

01:06:35.000 During prohibition, drinking actually did go down significantly.

01:06:39.000 Sure, but so did, and crime went up and smuggling booze went up and speakeasies were going all over the place not paying taxes.

01:06:45.000 Illegal drinking went up during the prohibition because drinking became illegal.

01:06:49.000 But like drinking overall did become less common.

01:06:49.000 Of course.

01:06:53.000 Violent crime in general increased with the trade.

01:06:56.000 So look, I'm fairly libertarian.

01:06:59.000 My attitude is society should, it should be socially unacceptable to a great degree.

01:07:05.000 Where I would disagree with you is you wouldn't you say that gambling is uncomfortable.

01:07:07.000 Oh, no, no.

01:07:08.000 I mean, I'm embarrassed.

01:07:08.000 Oh, no.

01:07:10.000 I'm like, I sit here.

01:07:11.000 I don't think I've ever publicly said on anywhere that I like gambling.

01:07:16.000 I don't have a gambling issue.

01:07:17.000 I mean, I don't gamble every day.

01:07:19.000 I don't have an issue with gambling.

01:07:20.000 It's okay.

01:07:21.000 No.

01:07:21.000 You've done worse.

01:07:22.000 Do you think that you used to have an issue?

01:07:23.000 What you would call an issue?

01:07:25.000 I never had it.

01:07:25.000 With gambling?

01:07:26.000 I'm very sober when it comes to gambling.

01:07:28.000 Like, I have a limit.

01:07:29.000 If I go to a casino, let's say I pull out $1,000.

01:07:32.000 I'm like, it's make or break.

01:07:33.000 You're not going to see me run to the ATM and rape my account of every penny I have like some people do.

01:07:39.000 So I do it for the entertainment.

01:07:41.000 It's very entertaining, but it's funny because I don't think until this very moment I've ever had this public discussion.

01:07:47.000 And I agree, it is still very socially embarrassing to admit you gambled him.

01:07:50.000 There are so many other things.

01:07:51.000 There's not a lot of teenagers who are sports betting.

01:07:53.000 They talk about it openly.

01:07:54.000 It's a hobby for them.

01:07:57.000 I'm not a teenager.

01:07:58.000 There are prominent Twitch streamers and influencers who have started gamble streaming where they play these ridiculous games online and they get millions of views from gambling money.

01:08:10.000 Isn't that like influencer?

01:08:11.000 What's his name?

01:08:12.000 Steve something.

01:08:13.000 Yeah, Steve Old Dewitt.

01:08:14.000 Didn't he get banned from for streaming?

01:08:18.000 I guess it's not socially acceptable if we're banning people.

01:08:21.000 I mean, so Elad is too moralistic.

01:08:25.000 Your point, here's my argument.

01:08:28.000 Gambling is bad.

01:08:30.000 Most people I see, the overwhelming majority, will sit down, have a free drink, play a hundred bucks or whatever, and go, oh, that's enough for me.

01:08:38.000 That was fun.

01:08:39.000 You're talking about people who have addictions.

01:08:41.000 If the problem is people drink too much, smoke too much, eat too much cake, too much of everything is bad.

01:08:47.000 The question is, when do we society decide to start banning you can't buy more cake because you're morbidly obese.

01:08:52.000 You know what I mean?

01:08:53.000 Well, Bloomberg tried that with soda.

01:08:55.000 Exactly.

01:08:55.000 So the issue is because some people have gambling problems, no one else can play a game of blackjack.

01:09:01.000 That seems silly.

01:09:02.000 So the problem is our culture, our society, and the fact that we are becoming increasingly degenerate, which is why I said we should not have casinos being opened everywhere.

01:09:11.000 We should allow for, say, Vegas or Atlantic City.

01:09:14.000 And maybe some reservation casinos are fine.

01:09:17.000 But the fact that Maryland now has, I shouldn't say just Maryland, but within two hours driving distance of us right now is like 12 casinos.

01:09:25.000 That is wrong.

01:09:25.000 I think this is part of a bigger thing, though.

01:09:27.000 Young men are struggling.

01:09:28.000 They're struggling with a lot of things.

01:09:30.000 They're struggling with alcohol.

01:09:31.000 They're struggling with porn addiction.

01:09:32.000 And now, what do we do to add to the struggles of young men?

01:09:35.000 We're adding, legalizing sports betting and sports gambling.

01:09:38.000 I have so many young male friends who are struggling with sports gambling, thousands, tens of thousands in debt.

01:09:43.000 It's extremely common.

01:09:44.000 And what do we have?

01:09:45.000 We have these pervasive ads on things that used to be, you know, used to just hang out with the boys, drink a couple of beers, watch a couple of football games, but now they're throwing this gambling stuff in your face.

01:09:55.000 Moreover, you're not allowed to be an advantage player on these facts.

01:09:58.000 If you come out a winning player, they will ban you from the app.

01:10:01.000 If you think people weren't gambling on sports until now, I got to bridge this.

01:10:04.000 No, Tim, but I'll tell you, the market exploded.

01:10:07.000 I think the market exploded.

01:10:08.000 I think you guys would be naive to think that the market hasn't exploded with legalization with how ease of access you have to this.

01:10:14.000 I think this is, I think you can't compare the black market sports betting to what people have access to nowadays.

01:10:21.000 It just doesn't compare.

01:10:22.000 I think we could look up what the numbers are.

01:10:23.000 I think this is like a $100 billion in the US.

01:10:26.000 This is a mathematical argument in government that I don't agree with because it and while obviously guns and gambling are very different things, the argument that because we have a broken culture of mentally ill people who murder does not mean I shouldn't be allowed to have a gun.

01:10:40.000 And because there is a society that is encouraging people to be degenerates doesn't mean you should be allowed to place a bet on a sports team.

01:10:46.000 If everyone in this country was of sound moral and principled mind and said, Look, I make like a $25 bet once a month for fun with my buddies just because we want to add a little excitement.

01:10:56.000 That's nothing wrong with that.

01:10:57.000 What you're describing as the problem is a culture that has become excessively degenerate.

01:11:03.000 I'm not for banning something because some people have problems.

01:11:06.000 Sure.

01:11:07.000 Well, I guess the statement that we went from was it already being banned to it being unbanned.

01:11:12.000 I preferred the way it was before.

01:11:14.000 It was always allowed.

01:11:15.000 It was always allowed.

01:11:16.000 It's just they created digital apps for you.

01:11:19.000 They expanded the scope of it.

01:11:21.000 Sports betting has been illegal.

01:11:23.000 Oh, you're just a few years.

01:11:24.000 Sports betting.

01:11:25.000 Sports betting in particular.

01:11:26.000 And there's also a lot of limits on these casinos.

01:11:28.000 But again, the ease of access for sports betting in particular.

01:11:30.000 They completely changed the laws around this.

01:11:32.000 Are you going to punish?

01:11:33.000 Are you going to punish the great majority because a few people have a problem?

01:11:37.000 It's like, are you going to punish people from drinking soda because some people are punishing people by not letting them have unlimited access to bedwater?

01:11:44.000 It's not unlimited.

01:11:45.000 No, it is unlimited.

01:11:46.000 But I mean, it's unlikely.

01:11:46.000 I think you'll be arguing.

01:11:47.000 That's a very socialist take.

01:11:49.000 Like, we control what you get to do.

01:11:51.000 Bloomberg said we're going to tax the poor because they don't know what's good for them and they're not smart enough.

01:11:51.000 Right.

01:11:55.000 So you can't buy large sodas anymore.

01:11:58.000 And I'm like, oh, hold on.

01:11:59.000 Sometimes, rarely, I'm very thirsty.

01:12:02.000 I want to have one big meal and I want a liter of cola.

01:12:05.000 And now, because there's certainly.

01:12:08.000 And because there's just massively morbid abuse people, I'm not allowed to buy a liter of cola.

01:12:12.000 That's nuts.

01:12:14.000 It's a socialistic problem.

01:12:16.000 The problem is a degenerate society, not what our acts are.

01:12:19.000 Okay, but we could take this argument to the nth degree.

01:12:21.000 Do you believe that about heroin and fentanyl?

01:12:23.000 I could make these same arguments about heroin and fentanyl.

01:12:25.000 Gambling won't kill you.

01:12:27.000 Stop saying that.

01:12:28.000 You're asking me, just to be clear.

01:12:30.000 Yes.

01:12:30.000 If I believe that we should have legal access to hard drugs.

01:12:34.000 Yes.

01:12:35.000 So there's a great difference between a hard drug, which literally kills you in small doses, like fentanyl will kill you.

01:12:40.000 And you don't trust people to make their own decisions. 0.99

01:12:44.000 Stop being retarded. 1.00

01:12:46.000 And that is fentanyl. 0.99

01:12:47.000 A single dose of a person who's ever had before can die instantly from people can't responsibly take fentanyl in their own homes.

01:12:52.000 They just need to responsibly dose themselves.

01:12:55.000 That was in New York City.

01:12:57.000 And if they can't, if they can't responsibly direct this, it should be illegal.

01:13:01.000 Maybe you should stop getting ahead of yourself because I haven't finished my point.

01:13:05.000 You know, slow down. 0.99

01:13:06.000 You're so arrogant. 0.99

01:13:08.000 Thank you. 0.98

01:13:08.000 I'm actually largely for the legalization of drugs. 0.98

01:13:11.000 Okay.

01:13:11.000 Yeah.

01:13:11.000 I think the issue is, as I've said, with abortion, it should not be illegal.

01:13:15.000 It should be unthinkable.

01:13:16.000 If you have, if everybody in this country had the same moral structure, moral worldview of Charlie Kirk, we wouldn't make drugs illegal.

01:13:24.000 But that's why we're not even doing them.

01:13:26.000 It's like simply, we're not in the middle of the day. 0.99

01:13:28.000 The problem I have with this argument is what you're telling me is people are so stupid, we have to make sure they can't get access to things that can hurt them. 1.00

01:13:35.000 And that is socialism. 1.00

01:13:37.000 I'm talking about gambling.

01:13:38.000 Online sports betting in the world.

01:13:40.000 But it's a choice that people can make.

01:13:42.000 And more.

01:13:42.000 And they should be able to have the choice to get heroin and fentanyl and prostitution.

01:13:45.000 It's illegal. 1.00

01:13:46.000 And you should be able to kill yourself. 1.00

01:13:47.000 I think hard drugs. 0.99

01:13:48.000 Give credit to the idea also that the law teaches morality oftentimes.

01:13:54.000 It doesn't always have to reflect the cultural sentiment around a certain action.

01:14:01.000 I have a lot of people.

01:14:02.000 The law is a moral teacher.

01:14:03.000 It has to be.

01:14:04.000 To a certain degree, but it has to be based in the market.

01:14:06.000 It's a law contract.

01:14:07.000 It's a fact.

01:14:08.000 It is a fact that when you have to write down your laws, your society is breaking apart.

01:14:14.000 I don't think that's true.

01:14:15.000 This is absolutely writing laws since the dawn of time.

01:14:17.000 I mean, no, no, no, no, no.

01:14:19.000 No, most countries have what's called an unwritten constitution.

01:14:22.000 The constitution, Wade Stotts, shout out.

01:14:24.000 This is his thesis.

01:14:26.000 He wrote an essay about this.

01:14:27.000 He made a video about it.

01:14:29.000 The UK has an unwritten constitution.

01:14:32.000 What does that mean?

01:14:33.000 Well, there's a thing the body politic largely agree on is acceptable and normal.

01:14:36.000 However, the problem is it's now being violated and they haven't written it down.

01:14:40.000 So in the American colonies, when they said, we'll just have an unwritten constitution, you had the anti-I believe it was the anti-federalist saying, no, no, no, no, no, hold on.

01:14:47.000 We want guarantees from you.

01:14:49.000 You better write it down.

01:14:50.000 Why?

01:14:51.000 Because different colonies had different rules.

01:14:52.000 And if there was going to be a federal authority above them connected to another, they wanted guarantees certain things could never be done.

01:14:59.000 Now we have this issue between the left and the right, where the left says the Second Amendment clearly says a regulated militia, which means government control and National Guard.

01:15:11.000 And the right says regulated meant well-serviced and militia was of the people.

01:15:16.000 Which body is correct in their interpretation of the Second Amendment?

01:15:19.000 I would argue ours is.

01:15:21.000 They would argue theirs is.

01:15:22.000 And I would, again, argue they're wrong.

01:15:24.000 When you get to the point where you have to write down you can't murder people, it's because people are being murdered.

01:15:29.000 Like we have to put a sign on the fridge in the kitchen down here that says do not take an item if it's not yours.

01:15:36.000 Why did we have to do that?

01:15:37.000 I was shocked to find people were stealing food.

01:15:40.000 Who steals lunch? 1.00

01:15:41.000 Who's the fucking lunch thief? 1.00

01:15:43.000 It would open the door. 1.00

01:15:44.000 And what would happen is.

01:15:45.000 No, no, no, no.

01:15:46.000 Let me tell you what happened.

01:15:47.000 We bought protein shakes.

01:15:49.000 We brought specific protein shakes for athletes that were coming, and we had like three of them.

01:15:53.000 And people showed up and said, these must be for everybody and drank them.

01:15:57.000 And then we did not have protein shakes for the athletes who requested them.

01:16:00.000 So then we said, we have to put a sign on the door that says, do not take the last item and do not take things if you've not, if you don't know who's in the middle of it.

01:16:07.000 Tim, can I ask you a question on that?

01:16:09.000 Working in corporate America, this was always an issue.

01:16:09.000 Go ahead.

01:16:12.000 I know it's sort of funny.

01:16:13.000 I guess some people aren't married or don't have spouses who cook well and they didn't see a more appetizing lunch.

01:16:18.000 Could it be like a lunch swap program, LP?

01:16:22.000 Look, my point is this.

01:16:23.000 So there's a lot of, like, when the Ten Commandments were written down, that was literally like a significant thing.

01:16:27.000 You're reminiscing on those citibanks days too much.

01:16:29.000 You know, that was better.

01:16:31.000 It was better for society that the Ten Commandments got written down because it gives you a guideline.

01:16:36.000 You don't have to guess.

01:16:37.000 And morality is not something that just magically emerges within individuals and within societies.

01:16:43.000 It needs to be organized and dictated to a certain extent.

01:16:46.000 Do you think that people can't know what God requests of them without someone having written it down and then told them?

01:16:54.000 No, but I think that, I mean, first of all, if you want to know what God wants you to do and you ask God, like some people are going to think they get an answer and some people are going to think they don't get an answer, right?

01:17:04.000 I mean, that's a pretty amorphous way to go.

01:17:06.000 And it's not really a way to organize a society.

01:17:09.000 But if you put down all of these things in a, you know, on some stone tablets, for example, and you have a couple of different categories of how these laws work, then I think it makes a lot more sense.

01:17:21.000 Perhaps, but we can say, okay, let's look at this.

01:17:23.000 Don't do that.

01:17:24.000 Sure, look at the First Amendment. 0.98

01:17:24.000 Don't do that. 0.98

01:17:25.000 Blasphemy was illegal in 1789.

01:17:28.000 Okay.

01:17:28.000 We didn't have free speech back then, but we wrote it down, right?

01:17:30.000 It doesn't mean anything.

01:17:31.000 What matters is it's still a social advancement to have these things written down and codified and to have codified laws.

01:17:37.000 So if the First Amendment did not protect people from arrest over blasphemy, then what was the function of the First Amendment in 1789?

01:17:46.000 I'm not arguing about that.

01:17:47.000 What was the First Amendment in 1789?

01:17:49.000 We wrote down in our constitution.

01:17:50.000 It certainly was an advancement.

01:17:51.000 It certainly became an advancement over time.

01:17:54.000 In 1789?

01:17:54.000 Why?

01:17:56.000 Why is it an advancement to have written down you have free speech when you get arrested for your speech?

01:18:01.000 Well, I think things have changed over time for sure.

01:18:04.000 What was the advancement about it?

01:18:05.000 People are released after having murdered.

01:18:08.000 What was the advancement of writing down free speech when people could still be arrested for their speech?

01:18:12.000 Because people knew what their rights were and they knew what to scream about when they were violated.

01:18:16.000 They did not because the First Amendment is unchanged, but the interpretation has changed dramatically back and forth.

01:18:21.000 And John Adams was really slammed pretty hard when he started putting into place.

01:18:25.000 Indeed, so writing it down didn't do anything.

01:18:27.000 Yes, it did because people were able to say, you can't do that.

01:18:30.000 We have the First Amendment.

01:18:32.000 And they still arrested people for blasphemy and obscenity.

01:18:34.000 Sure.

01:18:35.000 And things change over time and people can fight it.

01:18:38.000 If it was ever intended as a total free-for-all, that you can just say anything.

01:18:43.000 The point is, the founding fathers said, we must have the rights to freedom of speech.

01:18:48.000 And then everyone went, of course, the ability to express your opinion on matters political is an absolute if we're going to have a new nation.

01:18:55.000 Hence, we wouldn't have had this country because the king was shutting us down.

01:18:59.000 And then someone went, I don't like Jesus.

01:18:59.000 Agreed.

01:19:01.000 And they're like, arrest him.

01:19:02.000 Arrest him.

01:19:03.000 And they did.

01:19:04.000 So it was not free speech.

01:19:07.000 It was what they were arguing.

01:19:08.000 They can't arrest people now.

01:19:09.000 What they had argued was the First Amendment only applied insofar as your opinion was well within the Overton window of the colonies at the time.

01:19:18.000 Well, I agree with that.

01:19:20.000 If you look back, I think the way that we've interpreted the first, the second, whatever amendment you want to bring into claim, even the 10th Amendment recently with states, right?

01:19:28.000 I mean, you can go on and on on all of these, but the reality is I think culture and time also influence a lot of how we interpreted a lot of these things.

01:19:28.000 Right.

01:19:37.000 Let's just remember that these documents and these laws were written approximately 250 years ago and established to start the great idea that is the Constitutional Republic of the United States.

01:19:48.000 So the problem with it is, I mean, I'm a free speech absolutist, but I do believe we have to have guardrails and moral conscience guardrails on what we say.

01:19:57.000 For instance, the lovely, morbidly obese teacher who was doing, you know, I think that should be reprimanded.

01:20:06.000 There should be social consequences to that.

01:20:08.000 So let me tell you guys a funny story about West Virginia.

01:20:10.000 Do you know that alcohol is illegal in West Virginia completely?

01:20:13.000 Oh, it's a dry state.

01:20:15.000 It is prohibited under the Constitution.

01:20:17.000 You cannot drink alcohol.

01:20:19.000 You cannot manufacture or, I'm sorry, you can't manufacture or sell alcoholic beverages in the state of West Virginia.

01:20:26.000 Is there no alcohol here at all?

01:20:28.000 No, I'm saying, well, legally, can you buy it in stores?

01:20:28.000 There's tons.

01:20:31.000 Yeah, it's at 7-Eleven.

01:20:32.000 Now, how does this make sense?

01:20:33.000 Explain that.

01:20:34.000 Because what happened was in 1914, they said we are going to ban alcohol.

01:20:39.000 We're going to prohibit it, codified it in the Constitution of the state.

01:20:43.000 And then later on, when prohibition gets lifted, you get a bunch of politicians in West Virginia being like, but we banned it in the Constitution.

01:20:52.000 So what do we do?

01:20:53.000 We have to ratify our Constitution again.

01:20:55.000 And one member of Congress goes, actually, the Constitution says you cannot manufacture or sell intoxicating liquors.

01:21:06.000 Clearly, that doesn't mean ethyl alcohol because it's not toxic.

01:21:13.000 It just makes you bubbly.

01:21:16.000 Clearly, the intent of the Constitution was to ban wood alcohol or isopropyl alcohol, right?

01:21:24.000 Those are the intoxicating liquors.

01:21:26.000 And they went, oh, we can drink beer again.

01:21:29.000 Writing it down to the Constitution literally did nothing because the body politic of West Virginia said, now we have in beer.

01:21:34.000 And I'll get, I'll tell you this: West Virginia explicitly bans gambling.

01:21:39.000 There's a casino 15 minutes away.

01:21:41.000 Yeah, there's a Greenbrier casino.

01:21:43.000 Grainbrier has one as well.

01:21:44.000 That's not 15 minutes away.

01:21:45.000 That's a few hours.

01:21:46.000 West Virginia has five locations that were granted exempt status by the state in violation of its constitution to allow gambling.

01:21:54.000 Well, just like New York.

01:21:55.000 New York now has this huge concession.

01:21:58.000 We have three, I think, casinos: Yonkers, Catskills, and Queens, but they're just slots, right?

01:22:05.000 Oh, no, I'm sorry.

01:22:06.000 And then Jake 58 out on stuff.

01:22:08.000 It counts four downstream.

01:22:09.000 What's the Empire Empire casino?

01:22:10.000 That's Yonkers.

01:22:11.000 That's Yonkers.

01:22:12.000 And they're opening Caesars Times Square.

01:22:14.000 Now that the state got three full casino licenses, and it was just like a nightmare, a knife race.

01:22:14.000 Well, that's the thing.

01:22:21.000 I think Caesar's Times Square is the worst idea.

01:22:23.000 I think it is the worst.

01:22:24.000 You know what?

01:22:25.000 The level of loitering that is going to take place in Caesar's Times Square.

01:22:30.000 It's going to reverse all of Giuliani's good.

01:22:32.000 When they're doing Bally's Chicago on the river, I'll put it this way: it is going to literally be the epicenter of homeless drug addicts that are going to go nuts at a very Times Square, Caesars.

01:22:32.000 Let me just tell you.

01:22:46.000 Dude, Times Square Crown Plaza.

01:22:49.000 I was at a cocktail party once.

01:22:51.000 Like the homeless people were just loyal to the law.

01:22:55.000 When they bring in Caesar, they're going to be cops surrounding Times Square.

01:22:59.000 They already are.

01:23:00.000 Yes, but they're getting shot.

01:23:01.000 Yeah, but it's going to get, there's going to be a heavy hammer when Caesars is put in.

01:23:05.000 Well, not if we have Jamavara Light.

01:23:08.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.

01:23:09.000 The amount of money that Caesars is going to make for the state or for the city in general and taxes, it's going to be absolutely insane.

01:23:16.000 Let the Zoro Mondami comprehend that. 0.88

01:23:18.000 That's the bigger question.

01:23:19.000 Bro, he wants to slash the NYPD, which, by the way, is down 14,000 officers since 2020.

01:23:26.000 From 47,000 to 30, let me ask you: what do you think Zoran Mondani wants?

01:23:31.000 What he wants his own personal Avana utopia in the middle of New York City, but with nine, 10 million people.

01:23:38.000 It doesn't work.

01:23:39.000 What I see, these communists, people like Zoran, you see all these videos where he does these fake accents.

01:23:44.000 He's always talking different.

01:23:45.000 He's always saying different things.

01:23:46.000 He wants power.

01:23:47.000 So if someone says this casino is going to generate a billion dollars a year, put money in your pocket, he's going to be like, how many cops do you need?

01:23:54.000 These are the people that said defund the police.

01:23:56.000 And then when the police arrested Trump supporters, they clapped and cheered.

01:23:59.000 Well, I guess you're right because at the end of the day, then he'll have a slush fund to fund his free buses in his supermarkets in the city of the government.

01:24:06.000 But I don't think he actually cares about those things.

01:24:09.000 He's lying for power.

01:24:10.000 And just like Brandon Johnson, those things are never going to happen.

01:24:12.000 He lives in a rent-stabilized apartment and goes to $500 dinners.

01:24:16.000 So I get it.

01:24:18.000 I saw pictures of him.

01:24:19.000 I get it.

01:24:20.000 The other night on Instagram, I saw pictures from him.

01:24:22.000 $500 dinner?

01:24:23.000 That perfectly embodies, I mean, because he's from Uganda.

01:24:23.000 Yeah.

01:24:26.000 He perfectly embodies the way that the third world conducts their societies. 0.99

01:24:29.000 And that's just like the truth of the matter.

01:24:31.000 Uganda.

01:24:32.000 He will do anything.

01:24:33.000 Like you read through his policy and everyone's scratching their heads.

01:24:35.000 Like, these policies don't make any sense.

01:24:36.000 I'm like, that's the point.

01:24:37.000 It's not supposed to, there's nothing cohesive.

01:24:39.000 He just cares about power.

01:24:40.000 And this is the way that third world societies are structured.

01:24:43.000 From Africa with love, my friend.

01:24:45.000 Precisely.

01:24:46.000 Quite literally, it's insane.

01:24:48.000 Yeah.

01:24:48.000 So it's like, oh, great job.

01:24:49.000 Or immigration policy. 1.00

01:24:50.000 Now we've imported dick like eating. 1.00

01:24:51.000 So let's zoom out. 1.00

01:24:53.000 Let's zoom out.

01:24:54.000 The problem we have right now in the United States in the culture war is that there are two distinct moral worldviews.

01:24:59.000 The two parent factions I describe, or actually I should say, quote to Stephen Marsh, who said this: the multicultural democracy and the constitutional republic.

01:25:07.000 We here all represent the constitutional republic, and the left, we would describe as the multicultural democracy.

01:25:12.000 They have an entirely different moral worldview.

01:25:14.000 I believe it's a cult, and their moral worldview is literally just marching lockstep with dear leader.

01:25:19.000 But that's the issue.

01:25:21.000 What we write down in our laws doesn't matter.

01:25:23.000 Why?

01:25:23.000 Well, immigration, for instance, is heavily regulated and codified by Congress.

01:25:28.000 ICE goes to enforce the law, and Democrats do everything they can to obstruct that.

01:25:33.000 So Democrats are acting in, I would describe it as an insurrection or seditious conspiracy.

01:25:39.000 They're perversively interpreting the 10th Amendment to fit their agenda, right?

01:25:44.000 When they do all these state different policies of, oh, no, ICE, ice-free city.

01:25:50.000 Sanctuary cities are technically illegal in the Constitution of the United States.

01:25:54.000 The overarching document that I guess the supreme law of the land.

01:25:59.000 However, because of the 10th Amendment, they've been able to override that at state levels, like New York State, Sanctuary State.

01:26:05.000 It doesn't make any sense, though.

01:26:07.000 It also says federal law supersedes state law.

01:26:10.000 Exactly, which really tosses it away.

01:26:13.000 What does it matter?

01:26:14.000 What does it matter that we wrote down these laws and codified them as our formal system if Democrats are doing everything to stop it from happening?

01:26:21.000 They are aiding and abetting criminals.

01:26:22.000 They're creating ice trackers.

01:26:24.000 They are telling their police to arrest conservatives who oppose them.

01:26:27.000 And they're threatening to arrest police who are trying to enforce the laws we codified.

01:26:31.000 Shout out to Paul.

01:26:32.000 Not Nick Sorter for that, by the way.

01:26:33.000 if it wasn't for an extorter Portland, we wouldn't know what was going on there.

01:26:37.000 So this is the issue.

01:26:38.000 Credit to Katie Davis court from the post millennial who was covering it We are acting that too.

01:26:43.000 We are acting like we need to write down to make sure these laws are upheld.

01:26:48.000 But we all know why immigration must be enforced properly.

01:26:51.000 And even though we all wrote it down, the Democrats are saying, we don't care that you wrote it down.

01:26:55.000 We're going to do whatever we want.

01:26:56.000 Because the issue is, what will your culture accept?

01:26:59.000 That's ultimately what it comes down to.

01:27:01.000 And then when we get into the argument about, I make this question very simple.

01:27:05.000 If I go to your house and jump in through the window, would you find that to be acceptable or do you want me to go through the front door?

01:27:12.000 So when I was a congressman, I went to tour the border and I asked that to actually detainees in El Paso and San Diego.

01:27:19.000 Of course, you come in through the door.

01:27:20.000 I'm like, then why did you come through the back window of our country?

01:27:23.000 And like these guys looked at me like, oh, but you have to, I'm like, no, dude, this is my home.

01:27:28.000 What are you doing here?

01:27:29.000 Like, this is not how you come in.

01:27:31.000 And, well, you got to understand.

01:27:32.000 And I was running away from tigers in the Amazon.

01:27:35.000 I'm like, oh, there's tigers in the Amazon now.

01:27:37.000 It's just like, wild.

01:27:38.000 The most wildest thing.

01:27:40.000 Like, you can't equate this.

01:27:43.000 And they tell you, and they try to tell you all these sob stories.

01:27:46.000 I walked from Columbia to the United States.

01:27:47.000 I'm like, oh, you're one.

01:27:48.000 How long did it take?

01:27:49.000 Who told you to do this?

01:27:50.000 Like, nobody told you to do that.

01:27:51.000 Who invited you?

01:27:52.000 They're given scripts from NGOs.

01:27:54.000 I mean, of course they are.

01:27:55.000 Like, I saw it firsthand.

01:27:57.000 I was shout out to Vishburgh, who was my operations director, who literally, literally, we were there.

01:28:03.000 He's like, look, look, boss, those guys are instructing the immigrants on the other side of the fence, Americans in Mexico, funded by USAID.

01:28:12.000 Say danger and don't say anything else.

01:28:14.000 And we saw it with our own eyes.

01:28:16.000 It's just like nothing.

01:28:17.000 Well, there's this, there's this Eritrean migrant who went to Sweden.

01:28:21.000 I think it was Sweden. 0.99

01:28:23.000 He raped a girl. 0.98

01:28:24.000 He spent three years in prison for having raped her, and he wasn't deported because the Court of Appeals said that the rape didn't last. 0.97

01:28:31.000 The duration of the event was not long enough.

01:28:34.000 And so he's not being deported because he didn't rape her for long enough for it to be considered a serious crime under apparently a UN agreement from 1951.

01:28:44.000 There is more to the story because I was trying to find the details of the case that the way Sweden defines rape is not the way.

01:28:52.000 And the way we do, apparently, you got to correct me on this one because all I read was a cursory summary of it.

01:28:58.000 It said that there was no penetration.

01:28:59.000 So the rape.

01:29:00.000 It's like the Eugene Carroll version. 0.84

01:29:02.000 No, no, no.

01:29:02.000 Like, I want to be clear here.

01:29:04.000 Apparently, she was sexually assaulted in some way that wasn't what we would describe as rape. 0.83

01:29:07.000 But you know, I said describe it some other way.

01:29:10.000 Again, he should have never been allowed in the country in the first place.

01:29:13.000 And I'm not trying to defend him.

01:29:14.000 To say a lot of people think it's like he pinned her down, and you know, well, well, there's the case in the UK.

01:29:20.000 I think it's, I'm not sure if it's Pakistani or Bangladeshi, where he actually raped a young girl, and the courts literally slapped him on the wrist and said, Well, you know, culturally, taking women by force is okay where they come from.

01:29:33.000 Like, this literally is happening. 0.90

01:29:35.000 It is insanity.

01:29:36.000 So, I wanted to say to you earlier when you said, Well, the UK doesn't have an actual constitution.

01:29:40.000 Well, we can tell.

01:29:41.000 That's why we can't even have steak knives in London.

01:29:43.000 So, it's like it's chaotic.

01:29:45.000 Like, we ought to put the laws.

01:29:47.000 What bothers me the most is when I was in Congress, I would hear people like Tony Gonzalez, Mr. Amnesty, say, Oh, I want to pass more laws.

01:29:56.000 I'm like, dude, we already have immigration laws that are not enforced.

01:30:01.000 Like, we have all these laws on the books that are not enforced, but we continuously put more, I know it's your point.

01:30:09.000 It's just infuriating because every single thing that you hear these people pander to create profiles for themselves really stems from ignorance.

01:30:18.000 We have so many members of Congress that don't even know the laws on the books.

01:30:21.000 So, here's where we are right now.

01:30:23.000 We've opposed these laws.

01:30:25.000 We, as a body politic, recognize there are bad things happening in our country and the law is not being enforced.

01:30:29.000 We tried saying, We're going to write these things down and post the sign so you all know we're going to do it.

01:30:35.000 Democrats responded with, We literally don't care what you think is illegal. 0.76

01:30:39.000 We're going to allow drugs, we're going to create injection sites, we're going to allow illegal immigrants, we're going to arrest anyone who opposes us. 1.00

01:30:46.000 And if your law enforcement comes in, we'll arrest them too.

01:30:49.000 And that's where we're currently at right now, threatening to arrest our law enforcement for enforcing the law.

01:30:54.000 Writing it down did not change the culture of the multicultural democracy.

01:30:58.000 The only thing that's going to change it is if Donald Trump, like I got to be honest, guys, looking at everything, I think the only solution is Reconstruction.

01:31:06.000 Sending the National Guard into these blue cities and removing people from power and having new elections, rewriting this stuff.

01:31:06.000 Oh, I agree.

01:31:13.000 Because you've got corruption, people are fleeing these places, and all that's left are the ignorant communists who keep empowering communists. 0.97

01:31:22.000 And we are going to have a civil war. 0.99

01:31:25.000 Let me simplify it: California goes insane.

01:31:28.000 Conservatives leave and go to Arizona.

01:31:30.000 This creates a it skews things more and more in the direction of the left because Democrats don't leave.

01:31:36.000 This guarantees the entrenchment will be further and further left, and you will get a government that is absolutely far left.

01:31:42.000 That far left government will eventually oppose your moderate American state or federal government.

01:31:47.000 Eventually, they'll threaten to arrest or harm your law enforcement or your troops who coming in.

01:31:53.000 So, what did Abraham Lincoln do?

01:31:54.000 He suspended habeas corpus.

01:31:56.000 I want to make sure everyone understands.

01:31:57.000 I got an argument with Grok, so we got to understand this, okay?

01:31:59.000 And I got an argument with Grok intentionally because these large language models are built on the corporate press narrative machine, which are intent on lying to you.

01:32:09.000 The Civil War started at Fort Sumter in, I believe it was like March of what was it?

01:32:14.000 Was it March of might have been April?

01:32:17.000 Maybe it was April, April of 1861.

01:32:21.000 A couple weeks after that, Abraham Lincoln suspended habeas corpus.

01:32:25.000 We were still not in the actual civil war.

01:32:28.000 Historically, we say Fort Sumter started it, but it was actually two months later at the first Battle of Bull Run where people were picnicking on the hillside as Confederate and Union forces were about to fight because they were like, There's no civil war.

01:32:41.000 It's just not a real thing.

01:32:43.000 So, the question then is: under what authority did Abraham Lincoln suspend habeas corpus?

01:32:48.000 He didn't, he didn't have it.

01:32:49.000 Congress retroactively voted to approve his suspension of habeas corpus two years later.

01:32:55.000 Two years.

01:32:56.000 Yeah, pro-nunk-tunk was what they had to do, which is in lieu of this in lieu of that.

01:33:01.000 Then in Latin after it would be called George Bush a whole bunch of extra powers, too.

01:33:06.000 So, my point is this, right?

01:33:08.000 Right now, Donald Trump could suspend habeas corpus, and the precedent would be the exact same as Abraham Lincoln.

01:33:14.000 I am sending troops into states that are in rebellion against federal law, and these troops are going to make sure the law is being upheld and enforced.

01:33:22.000 And we're suspending habeas corpus to protect them from saboteurs because ICE has been terrorist has been shot, shot at, they've been rammed, they've been attacked.

01:33:31.000 The pretext for Abraham Lincoln's suspension of habeas corpus was the potential for sabotage from Confederate sympathizers.

01:33:37.000 Lincoln then arrested members of the Maryland legislature.

01:33:40.000 All of this before it was called the Civil War.

01:33:44.000 It wasn't until around 1863, people in this country said, We are in a civil war.

01:33:49.000 So, understand where we're at right now, where no one's calling it a civil war.

01:33:52.000 What it would look like is Trump goes on TV today and says, We have made several attempts to send in National Guard into these jurisdictions to aid our ICE law enforcement.

01:34:03.000 Here is here, eight USC 1324 clearly makes this illegal.

01:34:08.000 The American people voted for it.

01:34:09.000 We are sending in these troops.

01:34:11.000 However, far-left terrorists have been attacking our personnel, sabotaging vehicles, railroad tracks, and shooting at our law enforcement officers, ramming them in vehicles.

01:34:19.000 So we are going to suspend habeas corpus on the highways when these vehicles are in transport, meaning we can arrest you for any reason.

01:34:27.000 If he did that, it would be identical precedent to what Abraham Lincoln did when he suspended habeas corpus along the railways from Pennsylvania through Maryland into D.C. Two years after, two years later, when Trump wins, Congress will then say, we hereby vote that Trump was right to do it the whole time.

01:34:45.000 So I'll say this.

01:34:47.000 Look, I'm all for it.

01:34:48.000 I don't disagree.

01:34:49.000 I just feel like we're in a crossroads in this country where we can sit here and talk and ponder and demagogue all we want about it.

01:34:56.000 The reality is, when are we actually going to do all of these things?

01:35:00.000 Because Trump.

01:35:01.000 Well, it's not even just Trump.

01:35:02.000 It's like, will President Trump have the backing of a spineless Congress?

01:35:06.000 No, I mean, the Congress isn't doing anything.

01:35:09.000 It's really been horrifying to watch.

01:35:12.000 It's absolutely atrocious because unfortunately, and I'm saying this to the detriment some.

01:35:17.000 I mean, there's good members, but there's great members.

01:35:19.000 Look, Congress feels like a rubber stamp to the president's agenda.

01:35:22.000 That is absolutely insane to even say that.

01:35:25.000 The one big, beautiful bill just was totally the mixed agenda.

01:35:27.000 One bill.

01:35:28.000 One big, beautiful bill.

01:35:29.000 That's fine.

01:35:30.000 But every single president gets their marquee bill passed.

01:35:34.000 I mean, Biden did.

01:35:35.000 Obama did.

01:35:36.000 Trump did.

01:35:36.000 So he had his inflation climate.

01:35:38.000 Yeah, there's nothing.

01:35:39.000 And they're all BBBs at this point, right?

01:35:41.000 But my point is it has nothing to do with that.

01:35:44.000 That's not a rubber stamp.

01:35:45.000 A rubber stamp would be Trump calling them and saying, we're going to do martial law.

01:35:48.000 We need congressional support.

01:35:51.000 Rubber.

01:35:51.000 It's not going to happen.

01:35:52.000 He doesn't need it.

01:35:53.000 Well, he doesn't need it, but it would be, again, because then they call him a king, right?

01:35:57.000 Because he skipped the legislator.

01:35:59.000 And what did they say to Lincoln? 0.98

01:36:00.000 They're going to call him and shot him in the back. 0.86

01:36:03.000 I understand. 0.76

01:36:04.000 Well, I don't want that happening to Trump, right?

01:36:06.000 My point is Abraham Lincoln was called a dictator, a tyrant.

01:36:06.000 Agree.

01:36:10.000 He was evil.

01:36:11.000 I mean, look, seven states seceded from the Union, and there were four other states that were two to one in favor of the union until Lincoln sent troops into the South. 0.99

01:36:19.000 They said, holy crap, Lincoln is a tyrant. 0.98

01:36:21.000 We are seceding to, it's out of hand. 0.99

01:36:23.000 And then Lincoln won, and he sent in the troops for Reconstruction.

01:36:27.000 So the precedent of what happened in the Civil War with all of these liberals who would also agree, Abraham Lincoln, the greatest president we've ever had.

01:36:35.000 It's like, okay, wait till you see what that looks like.

01:36:37.000 Because we can talk about this.

01:36:39.000 Here's a question for you, George.

01:36:41.000 It's not a trick question.

01:36:42.000 Oh, go ahead.

01:36:43.000 Who are the good guys in the Civil War?

01:36:46.000 To me, the Union.

01:36:47.000 Most people are going to say the Union.

01:36:48.000 Almost all are going to say the Union.

01:36:50.000 So when Sherman, so Abraham Lincoln's suspension of habeas corpus, he threatened journalists with arrest.

01:36:56.000 He threatened Supreme Court justices with arrest.

01:36:57.000 He arrested members of the Maryland legislature.

01:37:00.000 He arrested northern sympathizers with the Confederacy.

01:37:03.000 He sent troops in, obviously we know he did.

01:37:05.000 He jailed members of Congress.

01:37:07.000 Members of Congress were expelled, right?

01:37:09.000 And he jailed members of Congress.

01:37:12.000 I agree with everything you're saying, right?

01:37:14.000 And then we had Sherman who marched to the sea, raising farmlands, massacring civilians, destroying railroads, making sure they couldn't eat. 0.53

01:37:21.000 And boy, if you go down south, nobody forgot Sherman.

01:37:25.000 And they're the good guys.

01:37:27.000 Slavery was bad, and the South was trying to secede.

01:37:30.000 So the scorched earth war tactics of Sherman, massacring civilians, burning down farms, raising, just destroying generations of homes, even among people who were not involved, was a necessary. 0.95

01:37:44.000 They said, you know what?

01:37:45.000 Punish them. 0.99

01:37:46.000 Make sure they feel the pain.

01:37:47.000 Well, they were setting examples, right?

01:37:48.000 Which I exactly agree.

01:37:50.000 And again, these are barbaric tactics of war, but then I always remind people when we talk about war and wartimes, what's the number one currency of war?

01:37:58.000 And everybody looks at me like, what do you mean?

01:37:59.000 Currency weapons.

01:38:00.000 I'm like, no, death.

01:38:01.000 Like, that's the number one currency.

01:38:03.000 That's the toll of war, right?

01:38:04.000 People are going to die.

01:38:05.000 So again, and tactics are in some cases.

01:38:10.000 We've heard a lot of testimony in Congress about Afghanistan and Iraq and some things that are reprehensible that were done by our troops that we have to sit here and be like, well, that's not good.

01:38:20.000 And I love our veterans and I love the fact that we're out there for a war for freedom and whatnot.

01:38:26.000 But I agree.

01:38:27.000 It's always going to be tough.

01:38:28.000 In war, we're always going to have people who, I mean, go back to World War II, there's people who think that, you know, Hitler was right. 0.99

01:38:35.000 And I think it's nuts.

01:38:36.000 When I hear that, I'm like, who?

01:38:39.000 Who thinks this was good?

01:38:41.000 And I have to debate this.

01:38:43.000 I've debated, I debated this in prison, actually, where somebody came and said, you know, Hitler wasn't too wrong. 0.87

01:38:48.000 I'm like, you're certifiable.

01:38:49.000 Stay away from me.

01:38:50.000 And the person continued to antagonize me.

01:38:52.000 And it was like this whole blown out debate.

01:38:54.000 So you're going to find crazier people who sympathize with wrong regardless.

01:38:58.000 My point is simply the only thing that needs to happen for Trump to win is Trump decides to escalate his tactics and then he has to succeed in his strategies.

01:39:06.000 After that, history is written by the victors.

01:39:08.000 Trump can route whatever he wants.

01:39:10.000 In the event Democrats decide to go full bore against Trump, which I believe they already did, and I believe they're losing.

01:39:15.000 But if they do succeed, they will just simply write that they were the good guys and they won.

01:39:19.000 The rest of us go to prison.

01:39:20.000 The Democrats will never be the greatest.

01:39:21.000 The Lightfoot thing.

01:39:23.000 Lori Lightfoot, you know, Chicago's former Democrat mayor.

01:39:27.000 Oh, Beetlejuice.

01:39:28.000 Yeah, she launched the ICE accountability project where she's calling basically to dox all ICE agents. 0.99

01:39:38.000 She's like, we're going to put up pictures of what they look like and what they're wearing and their shoes and their cars and where they live.

01:39:44.000 And then she had the nerve to say it wasn't doxing.

01:39:46.000 Wait.

01:39:47.000 But this is what she's doing.

01:39:49.000 And you also have, what was it like?

01:39:51.000 Some people in the house are putting together a website to track all ICE enforcement according to.

01:39:57.000 This is criminal.

01:39:58.000 Well, it is criminal.

01:39:59.000 And you also had the ICE Tracker app, which was removed from Google and Apple stores on the, you know, their app stores.

01:40:07.000 But now we have lawmakers actually doing this stuff. 0.92

01:40:10.000 And just to point, Tim, I don't think that the president has the stomach to do any of that stuff.

01:40:16.000 And I don't think the Republicans have the stomach for any of it either.

01:40:19.000 They certainly don't when it comes to the House.

01:40:22.000 They can't even get the government back open to well, that's not the House.

01:40:25.000 That's the Senate.

01:40:26.000 That's a Democrat.

01:40:27.000 That's all on shore.

01:40:29.000 We talk of accountability.

01:40:29.000 We do.

01:40:30.000 Who's going to hold Lori Lightfoot accountable for looking like an absolute mess, destroying Chicago? 1.00

01:40:35.000 And what is that on her head?

01:40:36.000 Is that hair?

01:40:37.000 Nobody's going to be there.

01:40:38.000 Where's the accountability there?

01:40:39.000 There's no accountability.

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01:41:03.000 That's the debate.

01:41:04.000 But for now, we'll grab your rants and chats from everybody else.

01:41:10.000 CB says the left worships kindness. 0.97

01:41:12.000 If you disagree with their definition of that or think we should prioritize something else, you're a Nazi. 0.60

01:41:17.000 I don't know that kindness is the right word.

01:41:19.000 It's likeness.

01:41:21.000 Do what they say or else.

01:41:25.000 Ray Jess says, if your fantasy league team isn't pulling through for you, you can just claim that the mob bribed them to throw the game.

01:41:31.000 How do we think this will affect sports betting moving forward?

01:41:33.000 It'll clean it up, I think.

01:41:36.000 Did you see where on ESPN today they were breaking the story and on their Chiron on the bottom, they have their ESPN bet, like Chiron advertisement.

01:41:44.000 And they just took it off like in the middle of the segment, and it's just like a gray box there.

01:41:47.000 Like some PA got chewed out, like, dude, no, no, get it off!

01:41:50.000 There's nothing there.

01:41:51.000 I was like, all right, guys.

01:41:53.000 Shane H. Walter says, as a sports fan, we've talked about games being rigged for ages.

01:41:57.000 The NBA is not surprising.

01:41:58.000 We see how many easy baskets are missed.

01:42:00.000 Don't even get me started on the flopping like you got fouled.

01:42:04.000 Oh, everyone's talked about football for ages, too.

01:42:06.000 I watched so many conspiracy theory videos, and they say that the NFL is sports entertainment.

01:42:12.000 That's how it's actually registered, which means they're legally allowed to rig the games.

01:42:17.000 So that explains Aaron Rodgers and the Jets first, like, what, 30 seconds?

01:42:21.000 I was there for that.

01:42:22.000 That was really painful.

01:42:22.000 You were there.

01:42:24.000 I'm sorry.

01:42:25.000 Shane H. Walter says, even I will admit my beloved Astros cheated to win the World Series with the middle name of Houston.

01:42:32.000 I can't just switch teams.

01:42:35.000 Is that what happened with the Astros?

01:42:36.000 The Astros.

01:42:37.000 So typically when you're stealing signs, it just means you have someone on second base.

01:42:40.000 Well, they had a TV in the dugout and they had a trash can and they would bang on the trash can to signal signs to the batter.

01:42:47.000 So he would know.

01:42:48.000 They were watching on TV.

01:42:48.000 Yes, they're watching on TV.

01:42:49.000 So the batter would know if it's a pitch worth.

01:42:51.000 It's the first time that happened either.

01:42:53.000 Well, I mean, yeah, I mean, it's been, there's ways of stealing signs.

01:42:57.000 So did they get in trouble for that?

01:42:59.000 Oh, as far as they didn't vacate the World Series at all.

01:42:59.000 Yeah.

01:43:03.000 There was another, there was another situation where, you know, how they started micing everybody who's on the field?

01:43:08.000 Right.

01:43:09.000 And so people were watching the game and they could hear the coaches talking about stuff.

01:43:13.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:43:14.000 But stealing signs has always been a thing.

01:43:15.000 That just means you have someone on second base and he's just sitting there because the catcher's signing pitches.

01:43:19.000 Watch it.

01:43:20.000 But this was like egregious because you could listen back through all the broadcasts and just hear boom, boom, boom.

01:43:24.000 And then Altuve would just knock a home run. 1.00

01:43:27.000 So wild stuff.

01:43:29.000 All right.

01:43:30.000 Chad's up net says, we're a few days late, but baby girl number three was born last Saturday.

01:43:35.000 Moved to Texas from California last year, bought more guns.

01:43:37.000 Keep it up, Timcast, and crew.

01:43:39.000 We appreciate everything you do.

01:43:40.000 Oh, congrats.

01:43:41.000 Welcome to the World Patriots.

01:43:44.000 Madcap Falcon says, awesome to see one of the greatest congressmen of all time.

01:43:48.000 Question for Santos.

01:43:49.000 How many Chi-Chi's you ate in prison? 1.00

01:43:52.000 You look chunky.

01:43:53.000 Chi-Chi's? 1.00

01:43:54.000 What's this?

01:43:55.000 I don't know what that is.

01:43:55.000 Jimmy Changa?

01:43:58.000 Look, no, actually, I lost weight.

01:43:59.000 So I do. 0.99

01:44:02.000 F you.

01:44:04.000 How is the food?

01:44:05.000 The food was really bad.

01:44:06.000 I mean, you know what?

01:44:07.000 There were days that it was not descriptive, non-descriptive.

01:44:11.000 I felt like they just opened like cans of friskies and dumped it.

01:44:13.000 I'm just like, yeah, Mike.

01:44:15.000 Did you get in any fights?

01:44:16.000 Like me?

01:44:16.000 Oh, yeah.

01:44:16.000 No.

01:44:17.000 Oh, no.

01:44:18.000 I mean, sharp-tongued, like, I could get into verbal arguments.

01:44:21.000 Were there a lot of fights?

01:44:22.000 No, not really.

01:44:23.000 I was in a, I, I went to a camp, right?

01:44:26.000 So it's like Camp Cupcake.

01:44:28.000 Like, I'm not even kidding.

01:44:29.000 It's like a bunch of like white-collar whiny guys and then a bunch of like old drug dealers who've been doing so much long time that they're like at the tail end of their sentences and they're not going to mess up.

01:44:39.000 It's like literally Camp Buttercup.

01:44:39.000 Right.

01:44:41.000 And then there was this one really eccentric Jewish guy there, which was very fun.

01:44:45.000 It wasn't you?

01:44:46.000 No, it wasn't me.

01:44:47.000 I'm ish.

01:44:48.000 So there's this actually really conservative Jewish guy there who really managed to get some guys to completely convert only to the kosher meal.

01:44:59.000 Okay.

01:45:00.000 And you didn't get the kosher meal.

01:45:02.000 I did not get it.

01:45:03.000 I didn't believe you in the jail.

01:45:04.000 I just didn't want to do it.

01:45:05.000 I said, I think this is going to help with my rehabilitation going on, kosher. 1.00

01:45:09.000 So I said, let's just not do that.

01:45:10.000 But it was really bad food.

01:45:12.000 Did you have to run?

01:45:13.000 You didn't have to run with a gang.

01:45:14.000 Nobody left with you.

01:45:15.000 Oh, yeah, sure.

01:45:16.000 I joined a gang.

01:45:17.000 I thought that's what you meant at all.

01:45:18.000 I have like this tattoo.

01:45:19.000 No, that's what they do in the Touch East. 0.61

01:45:21.000 Gangs that are crazy.

01:45:23.000 Praising chocolate mousse, right?

01:45:24.000 That's what they have at Camp Cupcake.

01:45:26.000 Lucas Zora says, Mary is correct. 0.99

01:45:28.000 Laws help inform morality and morality influences laws.

01:45:31.000 Giving people a structure to base their life on is actually good.

01:45:35.000 Let me phrase it like this: I don't care for laws.

01:45:38.000 I care for God's laws.

01:45:40.000 I think that a religious moral structure is a legitimate means of writing something down.

01:45:45.000 I believe that humans getting into a room and then writing down what they think is important and matters for other people won't make the other people do what they want them to do unless they already shared the intrinsic moral worldview.

01:45:56.000 But I'm also saying that the law can influence whether or not society has those common principles.

01:46:05.000 The law teaches morality.

01:46:07.000 I think the Bible teaches.

01:46:09.000 I think Christian moral tradition teaches.

01:46:10.000 And I think the laws.

01:46:12.000 Civil law also does.

01:46:14.000 I don't agree.

01:46:16.000 I think civil law is derivative of the moral worldview.

01:46:19.000 And this is a Christian nation founded by people of a Christian moral tradition.

01:46:24.000 And if you did not have that worldview, you would not care for the laws that were written because you'd view them as others, which is what we're experiencing now.

01:46:32.000 Yeah, like in order for the Constitution to make any sense, you have to be participating in the culture in which the Constitution was written.

01:46:38.000 And that's where the breakdown comes, like with the Second Amendment.

01:46:41.000 You need to be participating in the culture around the Second Amendment with the First Amendment.

01:46:45.000 Like that's just how this works.

01:46:46.000 And it's all derivative of nothing.

01:46:48.000 We gave Liberia the American Constitution.

01:46:50.000 Right.

01:46:51.000 It didn't work.

01:46:52.000 Yeah.

01:46:53.000 You have to be a participant in that original, like Aron McIntyre and Tucker talked about this recently, and Oron pointed to that sort of original sort of Anglo-Protestant culture as something that you kind of have to sort of bring it to Afghanistan as well.

01:47:07.000 It didn't work.

01:47:08.000 Vietnamese.

01:47:09.000 To the extent that we can still describe this country as having a Christian culture, it's one that's inherited, not earned by the people who enjoy it. 0.98

01:47:20.000 And we inherited laws that, of course, were written originally and codified by Christians. 0.86

01:47:26.000 Agreed.

01:47:26.000 Devout Christians.

01:47:27.000 And that's why I'm saying.

01:47:28.000 Enjoy the benefits of that.

01:47:30.000 And it informs what little we have left of Christian morality in this country, even among people who don't identify Christians.

01:47:38.000 I think that you could get rid of 99% of laws if everyone was actually a devout Christian. 0.88

01:47:44.000 Because the laws are already in the Bible.

01:47:46.000 There's already the teachings.

01:47:47.000 There's already what people know to follow.

01:47:49.000 I mean, historically. 0.98

01:47:50.000 We wrote down these laws, and in Dearborn, Michigan, the Muslims are still chopping off lady parts. 1.00

01:47:54.000 I mean, the Constitution was designed mostly lecturing the government rather than the people.

01:47:59.000 I mean, this is obviously because it stems from like the Magna Carta and like when the Magna Carta was established, that was more putting restrictions on the king because like in pre-Norman English society.

01:48:07.000 Sure, sure, sure.

01:48:08.000 It was very like free-for-all.

01:48:09.000 All right, the point, the point being that when the founding fathers were like, we all agree we have a right to free speech, you, government, you can't infringe upon it.

01:48:17.000 Clearly, we don't mean blasphemy, though.

01:48:19.000 They didn't write down, they didn't mean blasphemy.

01:48:21.000 So the point is, we wrote these laws derivative of the Christian moral tradition.

01:48:26.000 And that's why these laws don't matter to people in Dearborn, Michigan, because they're Islamic. 1.00

01:48:31.000 They follow Sharia. 0.96

01:48:32.000 So you've got all these stories of young girls getting their, you know, female circumcision is a problem in these areas.

01:48:39.000 You've got Sharia patrols. 0.90

01:48:41.000 They don't care what our laws say, and Democrats don't either.

01:48:45.000 If they don't share the moral tradition of Christianity, they're literally going to be like, you can write down whatever you want.

01:48:50.000 And here's a better way to Sharia patrols in New York City, by the way. 0.98

01:48:53.000 It's certainly.

01:48:53.000 But here's a better way to put it.

01:48:54.000 There's also just, let me ask you guys a question.

01:48:57.000 If the town you live in, Mary, it's like passed a law.

01:49:02.000 Mary, if the town you live in passed a law saying women weren't allowed to go outside without being accompanied by a man anymore and you had to wear a burqa, would you agree with that law and say, okay, or would you be like, no.

01:49:12.000 What would it mean for me to say no?

01:49:14.000 Go outside and walk around and do whatever you want.

01:49:16.000 Defy the law and then get arrested.

01:49:18.000 Maybe you'd get arrested or maybe they'd ticket you.

01:49:20.000 But you'd be would you defy the law in any way, regardless of the consequences?

01:49:24.000 Probably.

01:49:25.000 But they wrote it down.

01:49:26.000 Why isn't that informing you?

01:49:27.000 Like, why wouldn't you wait?

01:49:29.000 What I mean is, you know, historically, in, and you're right, that when people share the same religious foundation that informs their morality, they don't need to be policed.

01:49:40.000 And it's mostly self-enforced.

01:49:42.000 But historically, in societies mostly comprised of devout believing Christians, they still did codify Christian morality into law.

01:49:54.000 And it still mattered that they codified it.

01:49:57.000 So the issue that the way I see it is, largely it was not in smaller communities as their morality was already informed by the Bible and the community was small enough to where they basically knew what you could and couldn't get away with.

01:50:12.000 As society started growing and becoming when society got big, they said we're going to start writing things down, Congress, things like that.

01:50:20.000 But everyone still largely agreed with the gist of it.

01:50:22.000 That's why I say 95% of the laws because there's certainly there's like property rights and how tall can your sign be?

01:50:28.000 These are very, these are getting in the weeds.

01:50:30.000 But when you started going multicultural, writing things down did not matter. 1.00

01:50:35.000 Writing the law down to inform morality, the point where I disagree with it is the ideas of what is the true moral worldview we have come from the Christian world tradition.

01:50:46.000 Whether any atheist wants to agree or not, it doesn't matter because it's a fact.

01:50:50.000 We have a Christian world tradition.

01:50:52.000 Our amendments are rooted in things like Blackstone's formulation, the precedent set by Christians and the teachings of the Bible.

01:50:57.000 And you don't have to be a Christian to follow those things.

01:51:00.000 However, we then start getting multicultural society.

01:51:03.000 When we wrote these laws down, like your flag can only be 20 feet high, it was because people of the shared moral worldview were like, okay, I get it.

01:51:11.000 If I want to challenge this, here's the process by which we settle our disagreements and what we can or can't do pertaining to certain laws.

01:51:18.000 So we ban some things, we ban some other things, we say, okay, right?

01:51:22.000 That's minutia of morality.

01:51:24.000 That is not the overarching moral worldview.

01:51:26.000 Now you're bringing in Asian cultures, Middle Eastern cultures.

01:51:30.000 Islam is a great example. 1.00

01:51:31.000 And their moral worldview is so far at odds with the Christian world tradition, they're like, we literally don't care what you write down. 0.96

01:51:38.000 We will not follow that.

01:51:39.000 They understand we are telling these people, we, as the Constitutional Republic of America, will lock you up and throw away the key if you violate what we've written down.

01:51:49.000 So their response is, make sure they don't catch you.

01:51:51.000 Yeah.

01:51:52.000 Well, I mean, even beyond just the Christian, because we're introducing two pieces to the recipe here: the Christian component and whatnot.

01:52:00.000 But even like you said, Liberia is an example.

01:52:02.000 I mean, Liberia is a predominantly Christian country.

01:52:04.000 So there has to be that cultural element is like absolutely necessary in combination with each other.

01:52:08.000 With the Christian combination. 0.80

01:52:09.000 Right, exactly.

01:52:10.000 So it's like America fundamentally is like a Western country.

01:52:13.000 So it's like the Christian, it is true that is part of the recipe, but it has to be in combination with the cultural background of the people as well, or it won't work.

01:52:22.000 I mean, Liberia, exhibit A. And same, like Kenya. 0.89

01:52:25.000 I mean, Kenya inherited pretty much all of theirs from Britain, and they're fundamentally different from Britain, not anymore, but they used to be fundamentally different from Britain. 0.98

01:52:32.000 Let's grab some more of your chats and carry in the conversation.

01:52:36.000 Melania Mama says, heard a theory that the droning of these boats is not about narco-terrorism or regime change.

01:52:43.000 Iran and China are running operatives out of Venezuela.

01:52:45.000 They plan to activate cells in the U.S. when they're ready to take Taiwan in 2027.

01:52:50.000 I wouldn't be surprised.

01:52:51.000 Oh, that's a theory I actually espoused when I was still in the house because of the immigration. 0.94

01:52:58.000 So many Chinese nationals at the border.

01:53:01.000 It strikes me odd because they don't have a hard time getting visas to come here in China.

01:53:06.000 They don't actually need to come here illegally.

01:53:09.000 The fact that they're coming in here illegally, they were trying to be undetected, just like we've learned throughout the years that they like to be undetected in here to activate.

01:53:18.000 And I concur with that.

01:53:20.000 I don't think it's a conspiracy.

01:53:21.000 I think that's a fact.

01:53:22.000 And I just think it's a matter of time that we're going to learn the fact and it's going to be very uncomfortable.

01:53:27.000 And I love the fact that it's going to be Joe Biden's legacy that we're going to have to fix.

01:53:31.000 If you support the president drone striking these narco-terrorist boats off the coast of I wish he would hire me to do the operation. 1.00

01:53:40.000 I'd sit in a control room playing like, what's the name of that game back, like that very old game that like you would shoot?

01:53:46.000 Whatever, that you would shoot.

01:53:48.000 Battleship.

01:53:49.000 Not battleship. 0.98

01:53:50.000 I'm saying the little shooter that you shoot aliens. 0.99

01:53:52.000 A galligator. 0.99

01:53:53.000 There you go.

01:53:54.000 I would sit there in a control room literally playing alien invader, shooting every well.

01:53:59.000 I made this game.

01:54:00.000 There you go.

01:54:01.000 I'm gonna.

01:54:02.000 I'm 21% of Americans support this cartel action.

01:54:05.000 Are you kidding?

01:54:06.000 I'm shocked it's not 100.

01:54:07.000 I gotta, I gotta, I have to wait to the uncensored portion of the show to explain my video game to former representative Santos.

01:54:13.000 Yeah, you'll enjoy it.

01:54:14.000 So give us, give us eight minutes.

01:54:15.000 Let's read some more.

01:54:16.000 Dr. Rick says, $5,000 head-to-head Texas holding between you and me with a one-time $5,000 reload here in Yonkers on a Friday night, live broadcasted on your podcast.

01:54:26.000 It'll be an education in how to play poker.

01:54:29.000 I'm going to say no.

01:54:30.000 Don't go to Yonkers.

01:54:31.000 I'm going to say no.

01:54:33.000 I'm going to say no for a couple of reasons.

01:54:35.000 It's not called head-to-head.

01:54:37.000 It's called Heads Up.

01:54:38.000 And I guess reload is technically correct, but you could say rebuy.

01:54:43.000 So I'll let that one slide, I suppose.

01:54:44.000 But when you didn't say heads-up match, I fear that you may only think you're good at poker.

01:54:51.000 Don't go to Yonkers.

01:54:53.000 Heads up feels like a different game than heads up is what it's called when it's only two players.

01:54:58.000 Yeah, it feels different than like very different.

01:55:01.000 I actually love playing heads up.

01:55:01.000 Totally.

01:55:03.000 Oh, I don't.

01:55:04.000 It's a much more, much more difficult.

01:55:05.000 I'm not used to the ranges.

01:55:07.000 Heads up.

01:55:08.000 You play cards?

01:55:09.000 I fall short of the glory of God.

01:55:11.000 So yes, I'm not.

01:55:12.000 You literally patronized us for an entire moment of this.

01:55:17.000 You play cards.

01:55:18.000 You should do better. 1.00

01:55:19.000 Shut up. 1.00

01:55:20.000 You should be better than me. 1.00

01:55:21.000 Actually, shut up. 0.99

01:55:23.000 This dude literally busted our chops for like a solid 20 minutes of this show to only turn around and say he plays cards. 1.00

01:55:31.000 You are so full of say.

01:55:33.000 Oh, I didn't say I don't play poker line.

01:55:35.000 Wait, it's a skill game.

01:55:36.000 Record deep.

01:55:38.000 It's not rules for D, but nothing.

01:55:38.000 Walk away.

01:55:40.000 It's a game of skill, actually, Santos.

01:55:42.000 Can you build us a parlay for tonight?

01:55:44.000 Maybe.

01:55:44.000 I don't do.

01:55:44.000 I don't know.

01:55:46.000 I only do skill-based games.

01:55:48.000 No blackjack. 0.98

01:55:49.000 I am so mad at you right now.

01:55:51.000 I'm just kidding there, Dr. Rick.

01:55:53.000 I don't think I want to play.

01:55:54.000 So I played the World Poker Tour stream.

01:55:58.000 I'm getting invited.

01:55:59.000 I'm a pro poker player now.

01:56:00.000 I get invited to these games, but I don't like playing high-stakes poker.

01:56:05.000 So they reached out and they said they want to play a 5'10 game that's $5, $10 big blinds.

01:56:11.000 And then I said, What's the max buy?

01:56:12.000 And I said, There isn't one.

01:56:13.000 And I'm like, dude, I'm not going to sit down at the table where a guy puts 20 grand in front of me.

01:56:16.000 And like, I'm not playing.

01:56:17.000 And so they said, okay, we'll do five.

01:56:19.000 How's five grand sound?

01:56:20.000 And even then, I'm like, I guess.

01:56:23.000 I ended up losing $7,000.

01:56:25.000 I just ran as miserably as possible.

01:56:28.000 And I called shenanigans that they put Doug Paul to my left.

01:56:30.000 But that I'm just kidding about.

01:56:33.000 But now I got invited to a 2550 game.

01:56:36.000 Do you know what that is?

01:56:38.000 They think you're their whale.

01:56:39.000 That's what's going on.

01:56:40.000 Oh, bro.

01:56:41.000 I'm tiny compared to these players.

01:56:42.000 Okay.

01:56:43.000 Dude, I got invited to a game in Vegas, a show with pros, and their buy-ins are going to be like $25,000.

01:56:51.000 And they're like, you could buy in for $5 or $10.

01:56:53.000 I'm like, I'm not playing a game that big, dude.

01:56:55.000 I usually play 2.5.

01:56:56.000 2.5 is my game.

01:56:58.000 It's not the lowest stakes, but it's basically second lowest at any poker room.

01:57:02.000 And usually you buy in for like $1,000 or $2,000.

01:57:05.000 So it can be big bets, but it's a stable game.

01:57:09.000 Low stakes is insanity.

01:57:14.000 You know, the thing about poker that frustrates me is it's so easy to intimidate somebody on a bluff.

01:57:20.000 You described it perfectly earlier.

01:57:22.000 The thing I like about blackjack is I sit at the bare minimum stakes table, $50 minimum hands, but I play like an absolute 50.

01:57:29.000 Well, we got 15 out here, bro.

01:57:31.000 Well, I'm saying I play high limits because of the hand shuffle.

01:57:34.000 Less decks, you only get six decks instead of eight decks.

01:57:37.000 Right, right.

01:57:37.000 So your odds are, what, 104 cards less.

01:57:42.000 Edges lower for the house.

01:57:44.000 Exactly.

01:57:44.000 But I'm not.

01:57:46.000 I'm betting like an absolute animal.

01:57:48.000 And for me, I just find like the risk reward is better and you get a better bang for your buck when you're playing.

01:57:53.000 So I will say, if you're going to play, like roulette's a really great example.

01:57:57.000 I love roulette.

01:57:58.000 It's so toxic.

01:58:00.000 MGM has, if you go to MGM National Harbor, they have triple zero.

01:58:05.000 It's awful.

01:58:06.000 Do not play that game.

01:58:07.000 It's a waste of money.

01:58:08.000 Because your minimum bet is going to be, I think, probably $100 inside or outside.

01:58:14.000 But if you go to the high limit room, your minimum bet is $200, single zero.

01:58:18.000 Yep.

01:58:19.000 Meaning you've got like European roulette.

01:58:21.000 I mean, it used to be American until they were like, hey, we can put extra numbers in here and rip people off and they will just keep playing. 0.69

01:58:21.000 Yeah. 0.69

01:58:26.000 Yeah.

01:58:27.000 So triple zero is nuts.

01:58:28.000 Yeah, that MGM sign on the wheel like throws me off because then it changes the orders of how you play your numbers and the neighbors.

01:58:35.000 So again, relentlessly.

01:58:36.000 And if that's a great drunk game.

01:58:39.000 If you're not familiar with triple zero and you go to MGM, they've got zero, double zero, MGM.

01:58:43.000 Yep.

01:58:43.000 And you might think it's an emblem.

01:58:45.000 And then it lands on the MGM.

01:58:46.000 You're like, wait, what happened?

01:58:47.000 And they're like, you lose.

01:58:48.000 And you're like, that's a bet.

01:58:50.000 That happened to me.

01:58:52.000 My birthday in 2023, we celebrated and everybody decides, well, we haven't partied enough.

01:58:57.000 It's 11 o'clock at night.

01:58:58.000 Let's just go to MGM.

01:59:00.000 And I fell exactly for that.

01:59:01.000 Me and a bunch of people fell first.

01:59:03.000 I see a ton of people go like, oh, wait, I thought it was an emblem.

01:59:03.000 We didn't realize it.

01:59:06.000 And not to mention, you're betting completely off, right?

01:59:08.000 Because you think you're betting your numbers on your neighbors and you're just not.

01:59:11.000 I changed the order of the wheel.

01:59:12.000 It's awful.

01:59:13.000 All right.

01:59:13.000 What do we got here?

01:59:14.000 Pumpkin Spice says, Tim, what would your advice be for someone looking to get into poker?

01:59:18.000 I know the basics of the game and could afford to play with $100 of your thoughts.

01:59:22.000 The first thing I would say is.

01:59:26.000 You'll make fun of people like that.

01:59:27.000 It's awful. 0.99

01:59:28.000 Here, Tim will explain why that's dumb. 0.99

01:59:29.000 No, what? 0.72

01:59:30.000 The first thing I'd say is download the World Series of Poker app.

01:59:34.000 It's free.

01:59:35.000 It's a no-stakes game.

01:59:36.000 So they give you fake chips to play with, and then you can play.

01:59:40.000 I'd then recommend you watch Lodge Live Stream Poker and Hustler Casino live poker.

01:59:44.000 However, they play a little wild on those shows intentionally to make them entertaining.

01:59:49.000 I would recommend watching Triton series or like WPT tournament events and the World Series tournament events so you can see how people are playing, the things they're doing.

02:00:00.000 You need to watch a lot.

02:00:02.000 I wouldn't recommend sitting down with $100, having not done any of those things.

02:00:08.000 If you have a ton of money, the fast and easiest way to learn is sit at a table.

02:00:12.000 Because theoretically, if you go to a casino, it's a 1-2 game or 1-3.

02:00:18.000 Every orbit, maybe, I don't know, that could take 20 minutes.

02:00:21.000 You're going to have to put in $1, or you're going to put in $2, then $1, but you don't have to put any other money in if you don't want to.

02:00:27.000 Theoretically, you could be on the big blind and just accidentally win and take it down.

02:00:31.000 Sometimes the blinds will chop because nobody chooses to play.

02:00:33.000 And you can get a feel for the terminology, the rules, what people are saying.

02:00:38.000 And to a certain degree, people will try to help you because more players is always better for the game and they won't rip you off so long as you choose not to put money in the middle.

02:00:46.000 I would just say play free online versions first, which is not really going to teach you a lot about how advanced strategy is, but you will at least understand the basics of like, oh, I got an ace and a three, and you'll start to learn.

02:00:59.000 If you do want to play with $100, you're in a very weak position.

02:01:02.000 Typically, $100 is the lowest buy-in for any card room.

02:01:06.000 And when you are low, it's called short stacked, and you're basically going all in whenever you decide to make a bet, which it's not very fun.

02:01:15.000 I don't like that.

02:01:16.000 Then there's also Deep Stack, where you have a massive amount of money relative to the blinds.

02:01:21.000 And I'm not a big, big fan of that, but there is a lot more room for strategy.

02:01:25.000 Here's basically what's going to happen: you're going to look down at a good hand.

02:01:28.000 Maybe you have Ace Queen suited.

02:01:30.000 And so you're playing a one-two game.

02:01:31.000 You say, I'll bet $10.

02:01:32.000 Someone then goes, I'm going to raise to $50.

02:01:35.000 Well, your only option then is to call or go all in.

02:01:38.000 You know, you don't have a lot of options at that point.

02:01:39.000 So you're basically playing for $100.

02:01:41.000 You're like, I got Ace Queen.

02:01:42.000 I'm all in.

02:01:42.000 Who wants to flip for it?

02:01:44.000 And then there's no real strategy involved.

02:01:46.000 You're just, it's called flipping.

02:01:48.000 So study.

02:01:50.000 Always important.

02:01:51.000 All right.

02:01:52.000 Scott House says, George would be a fun regular on the cast.

02:01:52.000 Let's see.

02:01:56.000 More Santos, please.

02:01:57.000 George is always welcome to come back.

02:01:59.000 Where are you based out of?

02:02:00.000 For now, New York.

02:02:01.000 Okay, well, come back whenever you want.

02:02:03.000 Probably not staying there.

02:02:04.000 Not with Nami on.

02:02:05.000 Do you know Milo?

02:02:06.000 Are you friends with Milo?

02:02:07.000 Yeah.

02:02:07.000 Yiannopoulos?

02:02:08.000 I play the fifth.

02:02:11.000 No, I love Milo.

02:02:12.000 I love Milo.

02:02:13.000 An episode with me and him would be chaotic, though.

02:02:13.000 I was just saying, like.

02:02:15.000 Exactly.

02:02:16.000 Very chaotic.

02:02:17.000 I was like, we should have you and Milo on because it would just be a cacophony of.

02:02:21.000 Do you know who would be fun too?

02:02:25.000 Well, if we're doing that, then that would be fun.

02:02:27.000 But another person that I think who literally texted me said he was here, but it was the day your daughter was born, so he didn't get to meet you.

02:02:33.000 It's Kevin Smith, a buddy of mine from Long Island.

02:02:35.000 Oh, right on.

02:02:36.000 Loves you.

02:02:36.000 Very good friend of mine.

02:02:37.000 Shout out to Kevin who's watching.

02:02:39.000 But yeah, I'd love to come back.

02:02:40.000 Absolutely.

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02:04:11.000 George, do you want to shout anything out?

02:04:13.000 George, Mr. Santos NY on X, and make sure you go on cameo.

02:04:17.000 I just got Tim to join Cameo, so make sure you get your cameos.

02:04:20.000 And I said, I'm charged.

02:04:22.000 I said, I'll join, but I'm going to charge a lot of money because no, he's not.

02:04:25.000 He's going to lure it, I promise you.

02:04:30.000 I'm at Timcast on cameo.

02:04:31.000 Yeah.

02:04:32.000 How did no one take that?

02:04:34.000 I think it's because you can't.

02:04:35.000 Oh, okay.

02:04:37.000 You have to be the talent.

02:04:37.000 You can't.

02:04:39.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:04:40.000 Unless you're like an impersonator and then it's like a Tim Cass impersonator.

02:04:44.000 Eric, there is one charging $10.

02:04:46.000 Doesn't look like him.

02:04:48.000 It's not Tim.

02:04:49.000 Can people impersonate me?

02:04:51.000 I'm a hard guy to impersonate.

02:04:52.000 Well, I mean, this dude put a beanie on and thinks he looks like you.

02:04:55.000 So maybe it worked.

02:04:57.000 I might try it out.

02:04:59.000 I got to tell George about the video game that I made.

02:05:02.000 But we'll do that after we finish here.

02:05:04.000 Absolutely.

02:05:04.000 Guys, thanks for tuning in.

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02:05:08.000 Mr. Santos, thank you so much for dropping in.

02:05:10.000 Great to see you again.

02:05:11.000 It's been a minute.

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02:06:06.000 Thanks for hanging out.

02:06:07.000 Thank you.

02:06:37.000 Oh, this is what you were talking about doing in Venezuela, I think.

02:06:37.000 Thank you.

02:06:59.000 So here's my George, here's my video game I want everyone to watch.

02:07:03.000 It's called Alien Invader, and you play the little white cube, and you have to shoot the little brown cubes that are trying to get past you.

02:07:10.000 Look at assuming behind you, it's the U.S. border.

02:07:14.000 Hey, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa.

02:07:16.000 That's racist. 0.92

02:07:17.000 These are aliens.

02:07:20.000 All right.

02:07:20.000 Aliens are getting faster.

02:07:22.000 I'm going to put sombreros on them. 0.98

02:07:25.000 Hey, hey, this is Alien Invader.

02:07:28.000 I found a little white black.

02:07:31.000 So here's what's funny: if you show this game to like any liberal, they instantly, like, it took you guys two seconds to be like, hey, wait a minute, the aliens are brown.

02:07:39.000 But Gemini was like, this sounds fun.

02:07:42.000 Like, if you tell Gemini to do racist things, it won't do it.

02:07:45.000 They're just so innocent, the computers.

02:07:47.000 Yeah.

02:07:47.000 Those clankers.

02:07:49.000 So you created this game.

02:07:50.000 I literally just made it right now.

02:07:52.000 About five minutes ago.

02:07:53.000 Five minutes ago, I typed in, make a game called Alien Invader, where you move a small white cube left and right spacebar shoots up at aliens, and the aliens are little brown blocks.

02:08:00.000 That's it.

02:08:02.000 I hate AI. 0.99

02:08:04.000 I hate AI. 0.59

02:08:05.000 It's making everything.

02:08:07.000 I went to high school without AI, and I'm proud of that.

02:08:07.000 You know what?

02:08:10.000 So did I. I'm very proud.

02:08:10.000 I'm very proud.

02:08:11.000 Yeah.

02:08:12.000 That makes me unknow, though.

02:08:14.000 We should have Alien Invader contests here. 0.99

02:08:17.000 I agree.

02:08:18.000 I concur.

02:08:19.000 George, this is totally off topic, but I loved your Z-Way interview.

02:08:22.000 Oh, everybody did, right?

02:08:24.000 Do you know what I love about that interview, though?

02:08:26.000 It was like fresh out of Congress, and she had editing on her side.

02:08:30.000 It's her show, right?

02:08:31.000 Oh, I can't stand the way she does her guests so dirty editing on her side. 1.00

02:08:36.000 Yeah.

02:08:37.000 She still did not do well against me.

02:08:39.000 No, no, she didn't.

02:08:41.000 You really were one of the very few people to upstage.

02:08:44.000 Yeah, I'm not Drew Barrymore.

02:08:45.000 I'm not kneeling to you and asking for forgiveness.

02:08:47.000 You could let Drew Barrymore do that for everyone else.

02:08:47.000 Oh, yeah.

02:08:49.000 Z-Way loves that shit. 1.00

02:08:51.000 She loves it. 1.00

02:08:51.000 I love doing it. 1.00

02:08:54.000 Do you know what's my favorite troll of that day? 0.97

02:08:56.000 So she loves to talk about like, oh, forgiveness or like the black people and all of that because you've enslaved us, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. 0.99

02:09:02.000 I showed up wearing a all-black designer outfit and she was wearing Galiano.

02:09:07.000 I said, way to go for supporting black people, Z-Way. 1.00

02:09:10.000 I'm not gay enough to know who this is. 0.61

02:09:12.000 Who's Z-Way? 1.00

02:09:13.000 Okay, first of all. 0.80

02:09:15.000 Or am I not black enough?

02:09:16.000 Is that who it is? 0.89

02:09:18.000 She has this talk show where she tries to verbally corner people. 0.99

02:09:18.000 You know what? 0.99

02:09:22.000 And usually she loves having white guests who have like super bad white guilt. 0.95

02:09:28.000 She made Drew Barry more kneeling. 0.83

02:09:30.000 She likes to emphasize those awkward pauses and like thing. 1.00

02:09:35.000 She loves to kneel and cry. 1.00

02:09:36.000 She did, she kneels obsessed with like caressing Bride at Dylan Mulvaney.

02:09:41.000 Really?

02:09:41.000 It's weird.

02:09:42.000 Really weird.

02:09:42.000 Maybe she didn't cry, but she was definitely on her knees.

02:09:45.000 Yeah.

02:09:45.000 Uh-huh.

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