Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Netflix Shares TANK, Elon Says BOYCOTT After Writer MOCKS Charlie Kirk Assassination

00:01:16.000 Netflix shares are tanking.

00:01:19.000 After Elon Musk called for a boycott of the platform, a writer for a show that was promoting tr uh transgender ideology to children has mocked Charlie Kirk and the assassination.

00:01:32.000 This has resulted in many people spam blasting Twitter saying cancel your Netflix, showing all the programs that Netflix has that push gender ideology.

00:01:40.000 And I'm just sitting here being like, Y'all still have Netflix?

00:01:44.000 I canceled that to the cuties thing.

00:01:46.000 But uh now apparently they've dropped down a couple percentage points.

00:01:48.000 It's even made it to CNBC.

00:01:50.000 We have other news.

00:01:51.000 It's kind of funny, it's not as serious, but Bad Bunny got uh I guess chosen for the Super Bowl halftime show, and conservatives are questioning this choice because the dude doesn't even sing in English.

00:02:00.000 Well, he claimed he will not do shows in the USA because he's scared of ice showing up, and now we are learning the Trump admin plans to send ice to the Super Bowl halftime show.

00:02:09.000 There's speculation that maybe he will cancel and not do it out of this fear, but we'll see.

00:02:14.000 And then there is some serious news.

00:02:17.000 France has boarded a Russian vessel believing they were launching drones that was inter that was interfering with flights over Europe.

00:02:25.000 We don't know necessarily if this is gonna be an escalation, but with the article four with article four of uh NATO being called as often as it has in in recent history or in the past few uh weeks with Russia's movements in Europe and uh violation of airspace.

00:02:38.000 There's a lot of concern that this could lead to an escalation.

00:02:41.000 And then uh there's some good news though.

00:02:43.000 It looks like the Republicans have a shot at taking the governor's race in New Jersey.

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00:05:09.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is President Donald Trump.

00:05:13.000 Well, Tim, it's great to be with you.

00:05:14.000 I've been a fan for a long time.

00:05:17.000 I haven't been able to come on because I've been making America and really the world, if you look at it great again, right?

00:05:22.000 Saving us all from the N-word, right?

00:05:24.000 Which of course is nuclear.

00:05:26.000 You know that better than anyone.

00:05:27.000 But it's great to be with you, right?

00:05:29.000 Who are you really?

00:05:31.000 Who am I really?

00:05:31.000 Yeah.

00:05:32.000 Oh, you want me to break character already?

00:05:33.000 The guy you booked me, so I'm not sure.

00:05:35.000 Oh, I'm Jason Scoop.

00:05:37.000 Follow me.

00:05:38.000 Great to be here.

00:05:39.000 I think everybody gets to see who you are.

00:05:40.000 You're a Donald Trump impersonator.

00:05:41.000 That's right.

00:05:42.000 Comedian, impersonator.

00:05:43.000 I do all the impressions.

00:05:46.000 They may not realize.

00:05:49.000 We could have fooled them.

00:05:50.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:05:51.000 We could have done the whole episode that way.

00:05:52.000 Cut this out, cut it in post.

00:05:53.000 People are gonna be sending messages.

00:05:54.000 Did you actually have Trump on Leslie?

00:05:58.000 Yeah, I do a bunch of impersonations, but Trump has certainly been um the most uh I would say lucrative and uh the one that's really you know put me on the map the most.

00:06:07.000 What's the main tactic you do to get it?

00:06:10.000 Oh boy, I would just say practice makes perfect.

00:06:14.000 You know, um the I I do it so much, you know, I'm on cameo, so I'll do yeah, how many ever cameos a day?

00:06:20.000 And so really I just get better by accident.

00:06:22.000 I think no matter I think you're starting to sound like Trump naturally.

00:06:24.000 I think so.

00:06:25.000 Because you're getting too into it, and it's like you're forgetting how to be yourself.

00:06:28.000 Where are you where are you from in the world?

00:06:29.000 Um, I grew up in Long Island in Levitown.

00:06:32.000 See, there you go.

00:06:32.000 It's it's always people who are like from the area.

00:06:36.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:06:36.000 Yeah, they can do the best.

00:06:37.000 Uh, this is gonna be fun.

00:06:38.000 I'm as sure.

00:06:39.000 I'm sure it'll be funny.

00:06:40.000 But we got uh uh uh Jack's back.

00:06:42.000 Jack Sobic, I have not left.

00:06:44.000 I'm still here.

00:06:45.000 Uh just again, really appreciate everyone coming in.

00:06:48.000 Ian didn't even realize you were here, did the show yesterday, but great pleasure.

00:06:51.000 Great to uh great to have you here, brother.

00:06:52.000 You too, man.

00:06:53.000 I've been thinking about you almost every day.

00:06:55.000 Thank you, brother.

00:06:56.000 Literally a lot, man.

00:06:57.000 I love you, man.

00:06:57.000 So I'm appreciating it.

00:06:58.000 Looking forward to working on here.

00:07:00.000 And I'm Ian Crossland.

00:07:02.000 And uh Luke, of course, won't leave.

00:07:03.000 Uh we tried to even if I was, I'm not leaving.

00:07:08.000 Uh, the Russian tanker news is pretty crazy.

00:07:10.000 The US just announced that they're gonna be providing uh Ukraine intel for long-range missile strikes uh inside of Russia, so that's also happening, which is kind of troubling.

00:07:17.000 But anyway, Luk Rodowski, YouTube.com forward slash we are changed.

00:07:20.000 Jason is a great follow.

00:07:21.000 Oh, so I'm awesome to have all you guys here.

00:07:22.000 And uh Ian, good to see you too, man.

00:07:24.000 To Luke.

00:07:25.000 I love you too, man.

00:07:27.000 You're okay.

00:07:28.000 Tim, I love you the most.

00:07:28.000 We just met.

00:07:28.000 You're fine.

00:07:30.000 It's I don't know.

00:07:30.000 Just kidding, man.

00:07:31.000 No, it's I love you all.

00:07:31.000 You just kidding?

00:07:34.000 All right, let's get to the story.

00:07:35.000 We have this from CNBC.

00:07:37.000 Fast money.

00:07:38.000 Traders talk Netflix shares dropping after Elon Musk tells people to cancel.

00:07:43.000 Now, with all due respect, it wasn't Elon who started the charge.

00:07:46.000 I don't I don't believe.

00:07:48.000 Many people were calling for the boycott of Netflix because there's a writer on a show, a children's show that's promoting trans ideology to kids, and this writer had disparaged Charlie Kirk.

00:07:59.000 Let's play this from uh from CNBC.

00:08:02.000 If we can.

00:08:03.000 Welcome back to Fast Money.

00:08:04.000 Netflix shares falling over 2% today after Elon Musk urged his followers on X to cancel their subscriptions.

00:08:10.000 Musk taking issue with the presence of a transgender character on one of the streaming platform shows.

00:08:15.000 He posted cancel Netflix for the health of your kids this morning.

00:08:18.000 Our Steve Kovac has more on all of this drama.

00:08:21.000 Steve.

00:08:22.000 Oh boy, here we go.

00:08:23.000 Look at the power of an Elon Musk tweet, Mel, because the targeted rage of that tweet and of his fans and followers, they sent Netflix shares down two percent today after Mess spent part of his day tweeting about that Netflix show called Dead End Paranormal Park, which features a transgender character.

00:08:39.000 It's an animated show, by the way.

00:08:41.000 Now I think you guys can see where this is going.

00:08:43.000 Musk called on his followers to cancel Netflix and said he already did so himself.

00:08:48.000 He also criticized Netflix's DEI policies and pointed to it as another reason to cancel the service.

00:08:55.000 There's also well I just want to add, uh as you know, Elon Musk tweets this.

00:09:00.000 I'm like, y'all still had Netflix.

00:09:01.000 So uh I canceled it a long time ago.

00:09:04.000 Remember when the cuties things happened?

00:09:05.000 Yeah.

00:09:06.000 I was just like, wow, I this is messed up.

00:09:07.000 I've actually never had it.

00:09:08.000 And they they they called the advertisement uh like a mistake.

00:09:12.000 They were like, oh yeah, it was an error that this bill, like this banner went out.

00:09:15.000 And then all these liberals were like, cuties was fine.

00:09:19.000 It was the the the post that went out for it was just a mistake.

00:09:22.000 Um and everyone was like, bro, the whole movie was children in adult themed content that's that's disgusting and wrong.

00:09:30.000 It was very strange that you know liberals gargling Tylenol is one thing, but defending Netflix over this content was nuts.

00:09:40.000 Yeah, at minimum, it was predator bait, and it was extremely disturbing.

00:09:44.000 I'm gonna take a bold move today, and I'm gonna announce that I'm gonna cancel the Netflix account of my friend who I'm stealing.

00:09:50.000 Right now, that you are stealing Netflix from them.

00:09:53.000 Sorry, uh you know, well, we we have a couple of quiz.

00:09:57.000 I want to show you guys this one clip from one of their shows to give you an example of what what they're talking about.

00:10:01.000 This is actually an old clip.

00:10:03.000 This resulted in another canceling, but this is a children's show.

00:10:07.000 I believe – I could be wrong about an interracial gay couple who adopted a child, a little boy they want to be trans.

00:10:13.000 *music*

00:10:20.000 How about you break out those moves for your two biggest fans?

00:10:28.000 Oh you're not sure what to choose.

00:10:34.000 Think about all the things you like to do.

00:10:38.000 Just be here.

00:10:40.000 Just be me.

00:10:41.000 Yep.

00:10:42.000 When you try and decide, think about all the things you like to do.

00:10:50.000 Just be you.

00:10:51.000 Just be me.

00:10:53.000 You see, I'm of the mind that we need to tell kids what to do.

00:10:58.000 And it's a it's a weird reality.

00:11:00.000 This this, I guess there's another divergence between left and right.

00:11:03.000 I think you get it, yeah.

00:11:05.000 Your kid, you should you're hey, you're playing piano.

00:11:07.000 You're going to piano tutor, and they're gonna teach you how to play piano, and the kids are like, I don't want to play.

00:11:10.000 You're playing piano.

00:11:11.000 Like, you need to give your children discipline and make them do things that will be good for them in the future.

00:11:17.000 What the liberals have prescribed with this these Netflix shows, what Elon Musk is pointing out is they're saying you're a blank slate, figure it out yourself.

00:11:24.000 I think you need at least parameters because if you took a kid and put them in a uh a muddy pit with a bunch of worms, and you're like, you can do whatever you want.

00:11:31.000 The kid's gonna start eating worms, and that's gonna be his life because that's all there is available.

00:11:35.000 So have we we haven't actually played the show that Elon's talking about, though, right?

00:11:41.000 These are no let me let me search for that one.

00:11:43.000 Yeah, because I want to put that one up.

00:11:44.000 But but no, uh you're both right.

00:11:46.000 I mean, Tim, you and I were saying earlier on on my show, it's like, well, what if you're you know, what if a kid came up and said, Well, I like to eat pennies, and I I really want to eat pennies, which by the way, kids will absolutely eat just anything that you leave out.

00:11:58.000 And Play Doh Tim, you're you're you're you're Tim.

00:12:01.000 By the way, you are getting to that point.

00:12:03.000 You're not there yet.

00:12:03.000 Oh, no, we're there.

00:12:04.000 Are you there?

00:12:04.000 Oh, you're there, you are there.

00:12:06.000 Passive fire that we have has one of those clips, doesn't fall on the ground.

00:12:09.000 And she flipped it around and started putting the clip in a couple of things.

00:12:12.000 Okay, so you yeah, you can see what's coming.

00:12:13.000 You can learn so much from things by chewing on them.

00:12:16.000 Which by the way, so you can tell by the way the age of someone's kids if they have in their house by like so when you have when your kids are little, then like all the stuff goes on the counters, but then eventually as they get bigger, then stuff has to go into the cabinets, and then eventually you just have to stick stuff on your ceiling because you know, and they're teenagers because they can't reach it otherwise.

00:12:33.000 No, it's it's it's what was the name of that show?

00:12:36.000 Oh, here it is.

00:12:37.000 Here's a clip.

00:12:37.000 Here's the clip.

00:12:38.000 Let's play the clip.

00:12:39.000 Dead end.

00:12:41.000 It's not the park.

00:12:43.000 It's it's me.

00:12:46.000 I'm trans normal.

00:12:48.000 Cool knows, and everyone at home knows.

00:12:51.000 And being here, it's like a whole new place.

00:12:54.000 I can just be Barney, and I can choose if and when I tell people.

00:12:58.000 I've never been happier.

00:13:00.000 And that's saying something when I spent today chased by terrifying zombie mascots.

00:13:04.000 Bugsley reminded me of how important it is to live your life without apology.

00:13:09.000 So I think I gotta give Living Here a shot.

00:13:12.000 Don't you?

00:13:13.000 You don't need my permission.

00:13:14.000 I just wouldn't want Courtney as a roommate.

00:13:17.000 We'll be the master friends.

00:13:22.000 So here's here's this show and the other show.

00:13:25.000 This one's targeting uh kids seven plus the other show is targeting like four or five-year-olds.

00:13:29.000 What?

00:13:31.000 There's another show that's going viral from Netflix about dinosaurs, and there's there's like a teenage lesbian romance in it abruptly and for no reason.

00:13:37.000 What's creepy about this is that parents think they're turning on that one is associated with an extremely famous franchise.

00:13:44.000 Was it Jurassic Jurassic Park?

00:13:46.000 Well, so here's what happens.

00:13:47.000 Parents go on Netflix and they see a show and it's like for your kids, dinosaurs.

00:13:50.000 And they go, hey, dinosaurs.

00:13:51.000 Jurassic Park.

00:13:52.000 And then basically what you know what they're doing.

00:13:54.000 This is like a family guy joke where it's literally a family guy joke, where Lois buys our buys some like therapy video for Peter, and she's like, We're gonna teach you how to be a better husband.

00:14:06.000 Is your wife gone?

00:14:07.000 Okay, let's do this.

00:14:08.000 And just pulling your clothes off.

00:14:09.000 This is what they're doing to kids.

00:14:10.000 They're saying, let's learn about dinosaurs.

00:14:12.000 Are your parents gone gone? 1.00

00:14:13.000 Okay, let's show the lesbian sex scene. 1.00

00:14:15.000 And it's like you're the parents leave their kids watching this and not realizing what Netflix is injecting into this. 0.88

00:14:20.000 And watching this made me think back about how susceptible I was as a kid.

00:14:25.000 I mean, you remember being like five or six, you know what I mean?

00:14:28.000 You have what your parents teach you, but then you go to school, some kid says something, the cool kid, and then you like adopt that ideology because he's the cool or she's the cool kid.

00:14:36.000 So um, yeah, I mean, I think this is uh this actually has a real life impact on children.

00:14:40.000 And you're like in your house, so there's that level of comfort where you're just writing all the data.

00:14:44.000 100% I want to pull up because I believe there's another piece of this, and I I want to get the actual quotes because the creator of this show, in addition to this, also had been and it I I can see people talking about it.

00:15:03.000 Was celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk on his Blue Sky account, and saying, you know, I I want to get the actual, I don't know if it can say all of it, but you know, something along the lines of like he was a Nazi and he kind of he did uh that's it, you have it there. 0.78

00:15:22.000 And it's disgusting, and it's sick. 0.99

00:15:25.000 And you and you look at these horrible people, these absolute scum, and the things that they'll say after a man is brutally murdered, and so they'll turn around and they'll say, Oh, we need to be loving. 1.00

00:15:38.000 And you listen to the the words, the phraseology of the character in his show, the trans character. 0.99

00:15:43.000 We have to be loving, we have to be accepting, we have to be caring.

00:15:46.000 And it's like even what about Charlie Kirk?

00:15:49.000 He called Charlie Kirk a random Nazi.

00:15:51.000 And and and not just that, but why are they so vile?

00:15:55.000 I mean, like, we we understand the So but if you know what I mean, the dichotomy of when you be loving, you need to be accepting, except about those random Nazis like Charlie Kirk. 0.52

00:16:03.000 But that's what I'm saying.

00:16:04.000 Why would you even care?

00:16:05.000 These people just go online and they just rage.

00:16:07.000 They're just angry all the time, screaming at the top of their lungs, and it's like, bro, chill, chill.

00:16:12.000 And and this guy, by Alex Sense, I mean, he's he's got a show on Netflix, he's obviously quite successful to be able to do that.

00:16:19.000 You know, he's I mean, it doesn't look like a particularly interesting show.

00:16:22.000 The writing's pretty awful, the uh animation looked really cheesy. 0.99

00:16:26.000 Netflix sucks.

00:16:27.000 Like, right, so you but you'd think though, that if he's this full of rage and full of nihilism and full of resentment that, you know, at least by being successful enough to have a show on Netflix, you'd you'd perhaps you know think that the that the world has turned out for you. 0.98

00:16:42.000 No, I I understand what's going on, but I'm saying that a normal person would respond like, wow, I've got a show on Netflix.

00:16:48.000 That's awesome.

00:16:49.000 This is so cool.

00:16:50.000 Let's try and sell the show to everyone.

00:16:52.000 Let's let's let's talk about yeah, let's let's talk about how great the show is, and I want everyone to watch it.

00:16:57.000 And he's in the Hollywood bubble where everyone there thinks alike.

00:17:01.000 And he knows no one he's not gonna face any repercussions for it.

00:17:04.000 I don't think they think anything.

00:17:05.000 I think they think I'll just say what everyone else says.

00:17:08.000 It's very much like putting the the the blank black profile picture up when George Floyd died.

00:17:13.000 They don't know what's going on, someone just told them to do it so they did, and then you know, and they've got someone in their ear.

00:17:17.000 Right.

00:17:18.000 They've got someone in their ear who's like, oh, this is a good thing.

00:17:20.000 This is a good move.

00:17:21.000 You should you should do this.

00:17:22.000 Yeah, people need to understand Netflix is far more of a nefarious organization than a lot of people believe.

00:17:26.000 It was co-founded by the great nephew of Edward Bernays and Zygmunt Freud.

00:17:30.000 Really?

00:17:31.000 And it it is the propaganda machine of the establishment.

00:17:31.000 Yes.

00:17:35.000 It uses subliminal messaging in order to propagandize people in such horrible, horrendous ways. 0.52

00:17:41.000 Every time there's a there's a uh bad black guy, they make him a white guy. 0.85

00:17:44.000 Every time there's a white good guy, they make him a black guy. 0.99

00:17:46.000 Well, every one of Bernays himself is the founder of modern propaganda.

00:17:50.000 Exactly.

00:17:51.000 But but but I'm gonna push back a little bit.

00:17:52.000 I blame conservatives a lot and hear me out.

00:17:56.000 We were just talking before the show.

00:17:57.000 I love playing these songs like uh Chopsui by System of It Down because Serge is literally singing the words of Jesus Christ.

00:18:04.000 And he's Christian.

00:18:05.000 Uh yeah.

00:18:06.000 And then you also have like a stone, which they're uh Armenian. 1.00

00:18:09.000 Yeah.

00:18:10.000 Uh and I and and my point is there are a lot of songs that conservatives don't realize that in the mainstream were very much pro-Christian, and they they've not they're not familiar with these songs or otherwise.

00:18:20.000 There was a show on Netflix called The Order, and it was a werewolf vampire show or something.

00:18:25.000 I haven't seen it in a long time.

00:18:26.000 They had two seasons, and it was about communist professors being evil villains and we're the bad guys.

00:18:32.000 Really?

00:18:32.000 Yeah, legit.

00:18:33.000 Watch the show.

00:18:34.000 And I was shocked.

00:18:36.000 In season two, there is a communist professor, literally with like a communist book at a communist books on his bookshelf.

00:18:42.000 And he's I forgot what it was, but he's like, he's the villain who's trying to usurp the power of these like mystical, you know, college students or whatever.

00:18:49.000 They canceled the show because nobody watched it.

00:18:52.000 And I thought the show was fun.

00:18:54.000 I was like, look at this, they finally have a villain who's a Marxist college professor.

00:18:57.000 The problem is, like with I I I I referenced Captain America, the first Avenger movie all the time.

00:19:03.000 I'm like, guys, you had a movie that was about a uh a scrawny young man who was so desperate to join the military, he lied seven times to get in, and he fights for America.

00:19:13.000 And his name is literally Captain America.

00:19:16.000 Captain America.

00:19:16.000 I'm like, shouldn't conservatives have been like this is the greatest, and he's a Christian too.

00:19:20.000 In in the MCU, he literally makes a reference to this.

00:19:22.000 He says there's only one God, ma'am, in the Avengers movie.

00:19:25.000 Why weren't conservatives lifting that up?

00:19:28.000 Instead, I think they took for granted what was, because so much of our culture was just an overtly Christian theme, that when it fell off, they got mad about it, complained about content they didn't like, but never propped at the content they did.

00:19:40.000 There was like a backlash in the 80s against Christianity because there was this overcompensation from my perspective, being born in 79, where they were like trying to ban Dungeons and Dragons and get the F-word taken out of music.

00:19:51.000 So people kind of revolted against it.

00:19:53.000 And I think that was lingering to the point where people were so distanced from it.

00:19:56.000 But one of the things I love about Catholicism, and I'll I I'm not a Catholic person, but you are practicing Catholic jacket.

00:20:01.000 I want to ask you more about this, is like they would force people to repeat the seven virtues.

00:20:06.000 Maybe daily, if not weekly.

00:20:08.000 And so they're always remembering these seven important ways to be.

00:20:12.000 And then now that we have a free speech society without compelled speech, we don't force anyone to say anything.

00:20:16.000 And well, it was I wouldn't I wouldn't necessarily say forced, but you know, it it's it's more along the line.

00:20:22.000 So this is a big issue between like Protestants and Catholics, where you know, so yo, Catholics famously, of course, we have our rosary, right?

00:20:30.000 Here it is.

00:20:30.000 And and they'll say they'll say, Oh, those are vain repetitions.

00:20:33.000 So a Protestant will say, Well, that's a vain repetition, and you should just pray from the heart, pray directly to Jesus.

00:20:37.000 And we're we're we're we'll what we would say is, well, wait a minute, you know, these are the words of the Bible, these are words directly from the Bible, and by saying them over and over, these say we believe the prayers are sacred as well, so that when you say them uh in in tune, you're giving that to God.

00:20:53.000 And so it's it's more like it's but a Protestant would come in and say, Oh, well, that's just a repetition, but it's not vain, and that's that's the key difference.

00:21:00.000 It's not vain at all.

00:21:01.000 Do you ever we're gonna we're gonna jump to the story from Variety?

00:21:04.000 Trump's ice agents will be at Super Bowl for Bad Bunnies halftime show.

00:21:10.000 It's so shameful they picked someone who seems to hate America.

00:21:13.000 Now, this is why it's funny.

00:21:14.000 Conservatives got really angry that Bad Bunny was gonna be performing the halftime show.

00:21:18.000 You know, even speaking English, he's leftist.

00:21:21.000 He's got videos of him in drag and other things like that.

00:21:24.000 And he's even stated he won't do U.S. tours because he's he's fearful ice will show up at his events.

00:21:31.000 So now they've announced they will be at his event.

00:21:34.000 The question is, is he gonna panic and cancel out of fear that they might actually do something?

00:21:39.000 Well, by the way, doesn't I always come to Super Bowls in general?

00:21:42.000 Because there's always huge issues with like uh uh human trafficking and prostitution and you know, enforcement in general and all of this.

00:21:50.000 And right, as just you you are gonna need extra law enforcement from and homemade security because Super Bowl is of course a tier one event from a security perspective.

00:21:58.000 We obviously just held a tier one event here.

00:22:00.000 That's why I'm kind of it's fresh on my mind, uh, up at Phoenix, which we were told had higher security than the Super Bowl because the president being there and all the Secret Service, even though the president, I know he attended last year at the Super Bowl, so you he may have uh he may attend again.

00:22:12.000 Uh hopefully when my Eagles are there.

00:22:14.000 And um the, you know, it's it's it's just very common to see extra agencies augment in cases like this.

00:22:22.000 I hope they go.

00:22:23.000 I mean, they should deport him too.

00:22:24.000 Uh they're they're they're definitely gonna be there because it's not hard to be there.

00:22:27.000 Law enforcement is gonna be there.

00:22:28.000 They do security for these events, especially the Super Bowl.

00:22:31.000 I'm I I'm assuming Trump will be there as well.

00:22:34.000 And I don't know why he wouldn't go.

00:22:36.000 I mean, well, actually, he was like the first president a long time who went, right?

00:22:39.000 The first sitting, yeah.

00:22:40.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:22:41.000 It was a great game.

00:22:42.000 Great game.

00:22:43.000 How was it, Mr. President?

00:22:44.000 Did you like it?

00:22:44.000 It was fantastic, right?

00:22:47.000 Indeed.

00:22:48.000 Are you going to deport Bad Bunny, sir?

00:22:50.000 Well, well, oh, now I'm now going back to myself.

00:22:54.000 Well, we're looking into him.

00:22:56.000 We're looking into him very strongly, but I'll be Jason again.

00:22:58.000 Didn't somebody say he doesn't even uh sing songs in English?

00:23:01.000 Yeah, he doesn't.

00:23:01.000 He does not.

00:23:02.000 Oh, he's Porter Rican. 1.00

00:23:03.000 I'll take the wig off of it.

00:23:04.000 Oh, hey.

00:23:05.000 Yeah, it's all blonde anyway. 0.98

00:23:08.000 So does Bad Bunny guy is he Puerto Rican?

00:23:09.000 Yes, he is.

00:23:10.000 He's okay.

00:23:10.000 He's a citizen.

00:23:11.000 Okay.

00:23:11.000 But so if he's not doing shows in the US, where is he doing shows?

00:23:11.000 Yeah.

00:23:14.000 Latin America mainly.

00:23:15.000 So his fan base is so the the whole goal here is a marketing strategy.

00:23:19.000 And so uh Jay-Z controls the Super Bowl selection, halftime, halftime show selection process through his company Rock Nation.

00:23:27.000 Jay-Z, of course, being best friends with Barack Obama.

00:23:30.000 We were just talking about Netflix and the propaganda there.

00:23:33.000 And obviously, Netflix has signed huge deals with the Obama family uh to be producers on all this all this random stuff and predictive programming.

00:23:40.000 So Jay-Z being good friends with him.

00:23:42.000 So you just saw Bad Bunny where he was inserted into the Netflix sequel of Happy Gilmore 2.

00:23:50.000 And suddenly this guy that, you know, the the English speaking art world just is not familiar with suddenly Adam Sandler's caddy.

00:23:50.000 Yeah.

00:23:59.000 And the goal is it, and it's meant to be this sort of culture jamming, and it's very corporate and very obvious, where they're saying, Hey, uh white people like Adam Sandler and Hispanics love Bad Bunny.

00:24:10.000 We're gonna put him together.

00:24:12.000 And you're no they're doing the exact same thing with the Super Bowl.

00:24:15.000 He was I didn't even know or care or I'm pretty sure he was the caddy, yeah.

00:24:19.000 I didn't recognize I didn't even recognize like I didn't realize he was in that movie.

00:24:22.000 I could double check it out.

00:24:24.000 Because that's how I heard his name before because I remember watching it and looking, I was like, who is this guy?

00:24:28.000 Like he's this huge role, and I'm like, Bad Bunny, like what is that?

00:24:32.000 Yeah, I mean, the guy earned his spot.

00:24:34.000 I mean, he he he did the humiliation rituals, he dressed up in the dresses, he deserves to be the satanic dresses. 0.93

00:24:43.000 We deserve a demonic Illuminati drag show. 0.98

00:24:46.000 Okay, we need one necessary.

00:24:49.000 I mean, bring it back, please, for the conspiracy theories.

00:24:51.000 I'm gonna make so many videos about this.

00:24:53.000 Please make it as as demonic.

00:24:54.000 I know and also bring out Baphomet, like child sacrifices. 0.99

00:24:58.000 Let's do it.

00:24:58.000 Since since Trump got back, Luke, you've been starving for content.

00:25:01.000 Yes.

00:25:02.000 I don't know.

00:25:02.000 No, not really.

00:25:03.000 The Epstein stuff has kept me pretty busy.

00:25:05.000 So did anyone like that movie?

00:25:07.000 Happy Gilmore 2.

00:25:07.000 I thought it was horrible.

00:25:09.000 I didn't see that had some good moments.

00:25:10.000 I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna crap on it, had some moments, but it was in general pretty bad.

00:25:14.000 I yeah, it was it was not good.

00:25:14.000 Yeah.

00:25:16.000 It was it was hey, look at me.

00:25:18.000 Look at you know, Happy Gilmore.

00:25:19.000 Remember Happy Gilmore guys?

00:25:20.000 And they kept doing flashbacks in the movie.

00:25:21.000 I was just like, okay, we get it.

00:25:22.000 I've seen it.

00:25:22.000 Did they just do clips from the first movie?

00:25:24.000 Yeah, they did over and over again.

00:25:25.000 Yeah, that's what it was.

00:25:26.000 I haven't watched it.

00:25:26.000 It was on Netflix.

00:25:28.000 I didn't steal my friends' account.

00:25:29.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:25:30.000 Here's this is a big question, though.

00:25:31.000 I mean, we've seen with with Netflix with Disney and Jimmy Kimmel with Bad Bunny.

00:25:36.000 Look, we've got uh tremendous victories in the culture war.

00:25:41.000 But they're still holding on.

00:25:42.000 Woke is is still has its presence in these industries.

00:25:45.000 What do we have to do to route wokeness and get it to finally back off?

00:25:50.000 Make sure that we don't become a communist technocracy because if we if our government falls into comedy question, yes, I understand.

00:25:56.000 Otherwise, it's just gonna happen.

00:25:56.000 We're just gonna resist.

00:25:57.000 The question is how do we like do it?

00:25:59.000 Just be yourself, keep doing this, just be you.

00:26:02.000 Tim's already it's very clear to me what must be done here is that Turning Point USA needs to host a counter-programmed halftime show starring the only sincere band that has kept going with a fully Christian theme, as you say.

00:26:20.000 Celine Dion from day one, no, American band, American.

00:26:24.000 Get that Canadian nonsense out of here, Luke. 1.00

00:26:27.000 I'm talking about Creed. 0.98

00:26:30.000 I'm talking about Scotstapp.

00:26:32.000 I'm talking about taking this entire country higher to a place with golden streets.

00:26:37.000 Where blind men see. 0.97

00:26:38.000 You guys talk about that men see.

00:26:40.000 I think on your show today on Charlie's show, when you guys were so Tim, in all seriousness, that clip has gone mega viral.

00:26:47.000 Did you tweet it?

00:26:47.000 I did tweet it.

00:26:49.000 Uh Andrew tweeted it out as the like official spokesman of Turning Point.

00:26:53.000 And now the media, there has been a frenzy of media requests as well as like Sponsors and donors and all sorts of people and other artists, uh, Christian artists.

00:27:06.000 1.6 million.

00:27:07.000 Yeah, 1.6 million views.

00:27:08.000 Um, and no, I had no authorization whatsoever to start talking about.

00:27:13.000 It's gotta happen, man.

00:27:14.000 That is, and now it's like do you do this for concept?

00:27:18.000 Do you do it at the same time as the official halftime show?

00:27:20.000 Yes.

00:27:21.000 Same time as the official show.

00:27:22.000 Yeah.

00:27:23.000 So like we could watch football and then change the channel, watch Creed.

00:27:26.000 Well, we do like a live stream or like maybe do a partnership with like one of the channels that um I'm talking, man.

00:27:34.000 I am not saying that there have been conversations about uh this earlier today in this building, but uh, you know, it's it seems to have taken on a life of its own.

00:27:42.000 I wouldn't I wouldn't pay money to see that.

00:27:44.000 Dude, the last two years we came to turning point for Amfest, I've wanted to play that stage.

00:27:48.000 It's it's destined for music.

00:27:50.000 And that's that's all that anybody wanted is to see Ian open for.

00:27:50.000 There's integration.

00:27:53.000 We got songs that we like are partially rehearsed.

00:27:56.000 But it's harder.

00:27:58.000 Some of that, like the audience is hungry for that energy.

00:28:01.000 It and it deserves it.

00:28:02.000 You know, politics is a little dry sometimes.

00:28:04.000 So it's good to get Ian means to play with the case.

00:28:06.000 No, but you know, but you know why do you know why Creed is the only band from that era that that has like resurged the way that they have and is and it's because of sincerity because we've moved past postmodernism.

00:28:17.000 So postmodern music was all this like it was like super ironic and just like very biting and very sarcastic.

00:28:23.000 But I believe we've actually moved past postmodernism into meta modernism.

00:28:27.000 I think Jack's friends with Scott Stabb.

00:28:29.000 And and so, no, no, I've never spoken with him.

00:28:31.000 How do you define metamodernism?

00:28:32.000 So metamodernism is so mod modernity was this sort of like I'm genuine, like like Captain America, like I love America, I love my country, blah, blah, blah.

00:28:41.000 But then postmodernism comes in and was like, well, did you know about 1619?

00:28:45.000 What about slavery?

00:28:46.000 What about this?

00:28:47.000 What about that?

00:28:47.000 And then, and then metamodernism comes in and is like, you know what?

00:28:51.000 I love my country, and I don't care what you say about that stuff.

00:28:54.000 So it's like it's like you're combining the sincerity with the irony, and sometimes you're even being ironically sincere.

00:29:02.000 And you see this a lot with like JD Vance memes or like even like the modern crop of Trump memes, where it's like, is this an anti-meme or a or a pro meme?

00:29:09.000 It's a pro meme.

00:29:10.000 But aren't you kind of laughing?

00:29:11.000 Yes.

00:29:12.000 Sombrero.

00:29:13.000 Yeah, this with so we made a meme of like JD Vance and a Cerbrero and a mustache today.

00:29:17.000 You're like, are you mocking him?

00:29:18.000 No, we love it.

00:29:19.000 Gavin McGee or Gavin Newsom was getting him elected.

00:29:22.000 But do you get what I'm saying?

00:29:22.000 It's meta modernism.

00:29:23.000 Well, so what's happening is you got you got modernism, then meta then uh postmodernism is like the good guy's actually the bad guy.

00:29:28.000 And then post and then meta modernism is like, and I don't care.

00:29:32.000 Exactly.

00:29:32.000 He's still the good guy.

00:29:33.000 Yes.

00:29:34.000 So you you you incorporate the irony into the genuine love for the thing you have.

00:29:40.000 And so the core of this, the key of this, and this is what what Gen Z has been searching for, and this is why Gen Z, um, I don't think I say they're like embracing creed, but like one thing in general I see with a lot of Gen Z left and right, is they want sincerity.

00:29:53.000 Yeah, they want actual genuine sincerity.

00:29:55.000 And it's like even if you don't agree with Scott Sapp, if you're not Christian, you know that guy is sincere.

00:30:00.000 What that guy 100% believes what he says.

00:30:02.000 With with AI video getting crazier and crazier every single day, the new Sora 2 stuff that's coming out is nuts.

00:30:07.000 These there are a lot of young people growing up online where everyone's faking everything all the time.

00:30:11.000 Yep.

00:30:11.000 Right, and they just want something real.

00:30:13.000 So this is why, like, unfortunately, uh, this is and I I've talked about this before, but unfortunately, so like in on the right, that's why you're seeing this huge revival.

00:30:22.000 You're seeing this huge turn towards even like traditional orthodox versions of Christianity.

00:30:27.000 So, you know, if I'm going Catholic, I want Latin mass, I want the full thing, extraordinary form, um, Christianity, we're gonna orthodox, you know.

00:30:35.000 If if I'm going evangelical, I want like the most Bible-based church pastor that I can find.

00:30:40.000 And unfortunately, on the left, that pushes you towards violence and the most extreme types of violence.

00:30:47.000 Oh, this is why you would then so what's the most extreme type of violence?

00:30:47.000 Yep.

00:30:51.000 Is it marching around and holding placards like millennials would? 0.95

00:30:54.000 No, because that's like made for TV, so the technology is different now.

00:30:57.000 So they like they don't want to do that.

00:30:59.000 Smashing up a Starbucks, who cares?

00:31:01.000 That's just a Starbucks.

00:31:02.000 Unfortunately, this these types of pressures and this type of uh social tendency and social condition will lead you towards murder and assassination.

00:31:12.000 Is that because meta modernism can go too far?

00:31:14.000 Like because like the punisher, he is kind of a villain, but or or like Dr. Doom's actually a lovable villain, but like isn't it just yeah?

00:31:22.000 It's important to know, like they were still villainous.

00:31:24.000 Well, no, no, it's it's not anti-hero is a different thing.

00:31:27.000 Anti-hero is a different thing.

00:31:28.000 It's like it's like you'd like Superman, but then okay, but Superman also destroys the city, right?

00:31:34.000 That's the postmodernist take on Superman, he destroys the city.

00:31:37.000 And it's like when this one comes in, like, I love Superman.

00:31:40.000 There's got to be a a thread between the villain, the good guy's actually the bad guy, and then the next step of I don't care, I'm still gonna be him.

00:31:46.000 Because if he's actually the bad guy, you don't want to like really become the bad guy, even if he's like a good guy, bad guy.

00:31:53.000 No, you don't, but it's it's also it's it's it's seeing postmodernism face on and saying it's worth it.

00:32:00.000 And the people that are in the postmodernist brainwash don't realize that he was never actually a postmodernism is so that midwits can be convinced to do evil.

00:32:08.000 Yes.

00:32:08.000 That's that's so like pretty much it.

00:32:10.000 And and I hate I hate having you know written about this and and talked about this, and now you know it's like now I find myself in this situation where like I'm I'm like living part of it in a sense, like what happened to Charlie, because you you talk about online culture,

00:32:26.000 you talk about all of these extreme internet-based identities and things, and that's and when you look at I mean this guy was you know, this kid was on the roof, was into like furry porn and was just like LARPing and uh just just super extreme behavior, but in the opposite direction.

00:32:42.000 We do have good news.

00:32:43.000 I want to jump to this story from the AP.

00:32:45.000 Democrats wary support may be sliding among typically loyal voters in New Jersey's governor's race.

00:32:52.000 This is big.

00:32:52.000 It appears that Republicans are becoming competitive in New Jersey.

00:32:57.000 Now check this out.

00:32:58.000 We have this from Call Shi, and it does look like bad news at first.

00:33:03.000 Call Shea tweets out breaking there's a 72% chance Democrats sweep and win all four key elections in November.

00:33:10.000 The first thing I'll say, shout out to Call Shi for sponsoring this segment.

00:33:14.000 But beyond that, the New York mayor election will of course a Democrat's gonna win that.

00:33:18.000 I mean, it may be a good thing.

00:33:19.000 Maybe the question is which Democrat.

00:33:21.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:33:22.000 Exactly.

00:33:22.000 Now, where it gets interesting is Virginia governor, 94% chance, we get it.

00:33:26.000 Virginia House of Delegates, we get it.

00:33:28.000 New Jersey governor winner.

00:33:29.000 When they posted this was 78%.

00:33:30.000 Check this out.

00:33:31.000 We pull it up right now, and it's now oh, it went back.

00:33:34.000 Wait, wait, it went back to 78?

00:33:35.000 Okay, it popped back up.

00:33:36.000 Briefly dipped down.

00:33:38.000 But the trend line is what we're looking at.

00:33:40.000 Republicans are actually making gains in the prediction market.

00:33:44.000 And there's there's actually a big push now.

00:33:46.000 I think uh Scott Pressler was talking about this.

00:33:48.000 Going to New Jersey and making a big push because it's actually possible the Republican can win the governor race.

00:33:53.000 Yeah, so and if you pull up, I don't know if Kalski has a way to incorporate the most recent polls.

00:33:58.000 Um, that's you know, Call She, if you're listening, that would be a great, a great data set for you.

00:34:03.000 But there have been uh I believe three polls in a row now, separately taken of New Jersey that have the Republican um Jack Chiatarelli in with with either tied or within the margin of error in New Jersey, which is typically considered a solid blue state.

00:34:24.000 But I was doing a little digging on this, and you know, I'm from the Philadelphia area, so I'm generally familiar with New Jersey, and I remember when Chris Christie won in 2009 as a Republican.

00:34:34.000 That in the 2024 electoral race, New Jersey swung red and swung red in almost every single county of the state.

00:34:44.000 So the movement is there, the candidates are there.

00:34:48.000 Her candidacy is awful.

00:34:50.000 She's the Kamala Harris of New Jersey.

00:34:52.000 You see that you said that that stock video?

00:34:54.000 The stock Charlie, we gotta find play that video for the city.

00:34:56.000 Yeah, let's let me pull that one up.

00:34:57.000 And I'll just add that that so if you if you look at the actual mechanics of this race and the conditions on the ground, red jersey is possible.

00:35:07.000 Red jersey is absolutely possible, and then you combine that with just this outpouring that's happened in the wake of Charlie's murder.

00:35:14.000 Let's let's play this possible.

00:35:14.000 I don't know.

00:35:16.000 This is this is a Democrat.

00:35:17.000 So when Newsmax claims that you made $7 million from stock trade, what are they talking about?

00:35:24.000 News Max is first of all a very questionable organization that is.

00:35:30.000 I'm not sure what they're talking about now.

00:35:32.000 Well, did you make seven million in stock trades at all?

00:35:35.000 I I haven't I I don't believe I did, but I'd have to go see what that was alluding to again, what kind of came from so when Newsmax claimed that you made it, you know.

00:35:48.000 Listen, there's two things like that.

00:35:52.000 This is this is someone's lying, they don't answer the question.

00:35:54.000 But but but also listen, let's set politics aside.

00:35:58.000 If you're not capable of handling the heat, get out of the kitchen.

00:36:02.000 Yeah, at least first thing is like, I don't know.

00:36:04.000 I don't gotta look.

00:36:05.000 If she really didn't know, I should just said that right off the bat.

00:36:07.000 She knows she's well.

00:36:08.000 This has been this is all over the media.

00:36:11.000 This is this is like when you're going, okay.

00:36:13.000 So as a guy who used to work on campaigns, right?

00:36:16.000 You know, you know what your candidate is gonna be asked before you go up on a show, especially like the Breakfast Club, especially a show like that.

00:36:24.000 So you would prep them if you have a good team.

00:36:26.000 Like this just shows how really bad of a candidate she is, that your team would be sitting around and saying, okay, we know this is out there, we know this is in the media, uh, we know Charlemagne's probably gonna bring this up, and here's what we're gonna say.

00:36:39.000 It's an Aleppo moment. 0.90

00:36:40.000 Yeah, no, it's Aleppo, yeah.

00:36:42.000 Listen, what is Aleppo?

00:36:43.000 Whether you're guilty or innocent, you need to be able to respond, and you know they're gonna ask.

00:36:47.000 No, no, no, it's it's worse than an Aleppo. 0.99

00:36:49.000 It's worse than Aleppo because it's it's it no, because this is a personal thing.

00:36:52.000 This is a personal issue that she was involved in.

00:36:56.000 It has been a huge uh issue, and uh call a celeb on the left, by the way, from AOC talking about the personal stock trading of congressional insiders.

00:37:06.000 I I want to test Jason's metal, okay.

00:37:09.000 I would like for you to impersonate Donald Trump being asked about Aleppo, but the the context is you don't know what Aleppo is.

00:37:17.000 How would Trump answer it?

00:37:19.000 Well, look, when you when you look at Aleppo, and a lot of people are talking about Aleppo, a lot of very smart people with big beautiful brains, very respectable people, right?

00:37:28.000 And uh I can tell you that I've looked into Aleppo, and uh it's it's it's a very interesting thing.

00:37:35.000 Okay.

00:37:38.000 There you go.

00:37:40.000 But but Mr. Ms. Mr. President, the question is what would you do?

00:37:45.000 You're being rude.

00:37:45.000 Excuse me.

00:37:46.000 You're being very rude. 1.00

00:37:49.000 Nasty guy, nasty guy. 1.00

00:37:52.000 And uh say something bean easy. 0.99

00:37:54.000 And then what he would do is he'd say, we gotta talk about jobs.

00:37:59.000 We need you know what?

00:38:00.000 Aleppo, forget Aleppo. 0.99

00:38:01.000 What about the Laboo Boos? 1.00

00:38:02.000 Have you heard about these dogs?

00:38:03.000 Have you heard about these dolls?

00:38:05.000 A lot more interesting than Aleppo.

00:38:06.000 Aleppo's a little boring if you want to know the truth.

00:38:08.000 But uh yeah, you pivot that's you gotta pivot.

00:38:10.000 But Mr. President, there's so many people dying in Aleppo.

00:38:13.000 Yeah, look.

00:38:16.000 Look, Jack, Jack, this is a nasty world.

00:38:18.000 People are dying all over the place if you want to know the truth.

00:38:22.000 The the the brilliance of Trump.

00:38:24.000 He knows how to handle the media.

00:38:26.000 If he's ever asked about something he doesn't know, he'll pivot to something he does.

00:38:31.000 And that was really great. 0.97

00:38:32.000 He said, You're being a nasty guy. 0.92

00:38:33.000 Yeah, he'd say that.

00:38:34.000 Well, just completely change like when um and you'll go, why won't you talk about immigration?

00:38:38.000 This is what Americans want to talk about, not Aleppo.

00:38:40.000 Or at one of the debates like 10 years ago, the guy was like, uh, it was sort of a gotcha question.

00:38:45.000 And he goes, Well, somebody came on my show and said this, and he goes, Well, first off, nobody watches your show.

00:38:51.000 And then everybody laughed at the joke and totally forgot about the gotcha question.

00:38:56.000 When my my uh Scott Adams gave this analysis of his uh famous Rosie O'Donnell answer, which I think really something that you know, just everybody remembers. 0.83

00:39:05.000 You know, he gets this question you've called women fat pigs, and you've called women this, and he goes, uh well, you know, the line.

00:39:12.000 Only Rosie O'Donnell. 0.98

00:39:13.000 And then the crowd goes nuts because think of it.

00:39:17.000 Before she finishes the question, she he has he has assessed where she's going with this.

00:39:24.000 He's he and he's signaled out not just on a target that everyone's gonna think is funny, but all and think of this.

00:39:30.000 He was supposed he's well, who is he trying to do at the time?

00:39:32.000 Burnish his credentials among a Republican primary audience because people were saying, Oh, is he a Clinton plant?

00:39:39.000 He's not really a conservative, what's this?

00:39:41.000 So he picked a target that he knew would ingratiate himself with his audience that they would love.

00:39:47.000 And I mean, it he did all of that in a fraction of a second.

00:39:51.000 What you need for this uh Mickey Sherrill thing is to play up these kinds of elitist gaffes.

00:39:58.000 She sounds terrible, by the way.

00:40:00.000 Where's the charisma?

00:40:01.000 She so there's the two issues here is is she another crony just using DC to make herself rich? 1.00

00:40:07.000 And she really looks guilty when asked this because she didn't even have an excuse prepared.

00:40:11.000 So again, guilty on the stock thing, incapable of handling harsh political circumstances.

00:40:16.000 And her body language is terrible.

00:40:18.000 The body language is awful.

00:40:20.000 Um, well, newsmax is um uh question.

00:40:24.000 And and by the way, I don't know if they asked her as well.

00:40:26.000 So the other big uh she has another big scandal as well, and this is the Navy cheating scandal. 1.00

00:40:30.000 So in 1994 uh at the Navy Academy, there was this huge uh scandal of of cheating, particularly on this one engineering uh course, which which is known as no, I was uh I'm a former Navy officer, but I wasn't academy.

00:40:43.000 Um, but this just it's so big that everybody knows about it.

00:40:46.000 It's like every time you take a course in the Navy, like we don't need another uh 94, it's like that and tail hook are the two things.

00:40:52.000 And um she and her husband were all were both involved in this thing, and they weren't able to prove like that she directly cheated, so they couldn't get her out, but they didn't let her walk at graduation.

00:41:05.000 Because she was involved, I I forgot what it was, so I I probably I'm getting this wrong, but it was something about she would not provide like she knew who did.

00:41:12.000 Well, see, here's the thing though, is sh her records are sealed and she won't release them. 0.69

00:41:17.000 So I think that's a talking point that she's like, oh well, I just wouldn't let them, you know, it just wouldn't dime out my my buddies, and it's like, okay, well then release the records, Mickey.

00:41:25.000 Just release the records.

00:41:26.000 If there's if there's nothing to worry about, release the records.

00:41:28.000 There's there's one simple phenomenon that we can point to that just breaks down Democrats and Republicans.

00:41:32.000 Bill Maher said he could not book prominent Democrats on his own show, and he votes and supports votes for these people and supports them.

00:41:39.000 But conservatives want to come on even though they disagree.

00:41:41.000 When we try booking liberals, do you know what the first response we usually get is?

00:41:45.000 What?

00:41:46.000 How much?

00:41:47.000 Seriously?

00:41:47.000 Oh, yeah.

00:41:48.000 And it's either they'll ignore us or they'll say, My fee is X. Do you know what conservatives say when we reach out to them?

00:41:55.000 Doesn't matter.

00:41:55.000 They reach out to us.

00:41:56.000 They won't stop knocking on our door.

00:41:57.000 They say, We want to come and we want to share these ideas.

00:41:59.000 Because the right is saying we want to debate this and make the country better.

00:42:05.000 Sometimes we'll even host you in our buildings.

00:42:06.000 I know.

00:42:07.000 They're like, Tim, come to Arizona.

00:42:09.000 I'm like, it's really hard.

00:42:09.000 No, we'll we'll figure it out for you.

00:42:11.000 We'll get you here.

00:42:12.000 And then Democrats are like, it's gonna cost you this much.

00:42:14.000 I'll only do it for this amount of time.

00:42:16.000 And that I really think it's the nail on the head with the hammer with why people like this are running for office.

00:42:20.000 It's a means to get rich and put a name in the history books.

00:42:23.000 Whereas the Republicans are like, I want to help my community.

00:42:26.000 I'm not super classist, I'm not a Marxist, but there's something about this elitist class of people that are mooching off the monetary supply by printing fiat and then it's sucked in the system.

00:42:35.000 The Democratic Party.

00:42:38.000 If you're a parasitic elitist, right, then that's not being, you know, it's not communist to call that out and say you are not producing anything for like I don't want to overthrow it.

00:42:48.000 That's what Marx would have done.

00:42:50.000 If you actually have elite Elon Musk, he has elite talent.

00:42:53.000 Like everyone, like by every definition of the word, he is an elite, right?

00:42:58.000 But he's not like this.

00:43:00.000 Also, Marr gave uh Obama a million dollars.

00:43:04.000 Obama never invited him to the White House.

00:43:06.000 Amazing.

00:43:06.000 Trump.

00:43:07.000 Wow, he bashed Trump for years.

00:43:09.000 Trump said, Come on over, let's talk.

00:43:10.000 That's right.

00:43:11.000 They had dinner.

00:43:12.000 There's this idea that may like like money is what's gonna win you the game, the the election, the everything.

00:43:17.000 Because that's what it's all about for them.

00:43:18.000 And that's what they have access to.

00:43:19.000 And in the the the Republican Party, it's about charisma and about like intelligence.

00:43:23.000 Like you have to actually do something valuable to get or at least get people's attention.

00:43:27.000 Joe Biden once mentioned that when he first be, you know, was installed as president in in I guess 2021, then he was doing this tour of the residence.

00:43:38.000 He mentioned something in this one interview that has always struck me because and stayed with me because he said, Oh, this is the first time I've seen the residents.

00:43:46.000 I was like, wait a minute.

00:43:47.000 W weren't you the vice president for eight years?

00:43:50.000 So for all of those eight years, Barack Obama never once invited him to like the private areas of the White House where the where the family lives for like a cup of coffee or share a dinner or something.

00:44:02.000 That's how bad it was inside the White House for those years.

00:44:05.000 So remember the the publicly it was the bromance, and they're like jogging together with their little friendship bracelets.

00:44:11.000 It was all fake. 0.99

00:44:11.000 Dude, do you know that Obama quote never underestimate Joe's ability to F shit up? 0.99

00:44:16.000 Whatever, no, it's actually 100% true. 0.98

00:44:19.000 100% true.

00:44:22.000 No, bedroom.

00:44:24.000 Come on, man.

00:44:24.000 He's like peeing on the bushes.

00:44:26.000 How did that guy?

00:44:27.000 This is a whole other thing.

00:44:28.000 How did Biden even get selected?

00:44:30.000 How did the auto pen get selected?

00:44:30.000 I mean the autopen.

00:44:32.000 No, the autopen got selected.

00:44:33.000 Yeah, because anyone can press go.

00:44:35.000 So the go button.

00:44:37.000 Because they wanted someone they could control.

00:44:39.000 That was it.

00:44:40.000 They wanted someone they could control.

00:44:41.000 Well, Joe always wanted to be president, and they were like, you'll get your chance.

00:44:44.000 So Obama was a little too unknown.

00:44:47.000 They didn't know if they could quite control Obama, so they plugged Joe in to make sure they could control it.

00:44:50.000 I really I mean, for a lot of reasons, I think 2020 was a fluke.

00:44:53.000 I don't think they ever actually expected Joe to be president.

00:44:56.000 I don't think that was ever part of the plan.

00:44:57.000 I think that I don't know about that.

00:44:59.000 I I I think it became the plan.

00:45:00.000 Universal mail.

00:45:01.000 Yeah, okay.

00:45:02.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:45:02.000 I'm saying like in 2019.

00:45:04.000 Right, right.

00:45:04.000 Nobody, you know, prior to Booty Judge would stand out.

00:45:07.000 The COVID thing prior to the that operation getting launched that you know everybody thought that like okay, because Trump was it if you go back to 2019, Trump was a shoe-in for re-election.

00:45:19.000 He was extremely popular.

00:45:20.000 The economy is going really well.

00:45:22.000 And no real big like Gavin Newsom didn't try to challenge him.

00:45:26.000 By the way, unseating a sitting president is almost impossible in American politics.

00:45:32.000 And uh Trump not only unseated, by the way, when he came back, he not only unseated a sitting president, but he also defeated the vice president too.

00:45:39.000 So you he won twice in the same year, which no one has ever done before.

00:45:42.000 And and remember it was Barack Obama who pulled the plug on Joe Biden uh after the debate, saying, you know, call went around and called the donors and said, Joe, you then.

00:45:51.000 Let's jump to the story from the post-millennial.

00:45:54.000 FBI drops ADL partnership in split from Colly's playbook.

00:46:00.000 That era is finished.

00:46:01.000 This FBI formally rejects Comey's policies and any paid partnership with the ADL.

00:46:06.000 Okay, first and foremost, Cash didn't know about this until Twitter put I okay.

00:46:10.000 I don't know that for sure.

00:46:11.000 But people started tweeting hey, look at this old tweet where the FBI has a partnership with the ADL.

00:46:15.000 All of a sudden Cash is like, no way, shut it down.

00:46:17.000 I don't think Cash actually knew they were doing this.

00:46:19.000 This this all started with Periabasi.

00:46:21.000 Uh got shout out to Periabasi on Twitter, uh the great Pericles of Chicago, where he pulled up the fact that turning point USA, even in the wake of the insane political murder of Charlie Kirk, was still listed by the ADL as an extremist hate group.

00:46:40.000 Yep.

00:46:40.000 And then it's crazy.

00:46:42.000 Did you know that almost every single number was was considered racist?

00:46:45.000 I am not exaggerating.

00:46:47.000 It was a meaning more.

00:46:47.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:46:48.000 In the old glossary, yeah.

00:46:49.000 Yeah, you'd go to the ADL glossary and you type in one, it'd be like the number one is a racist.

00:46:53.000 The number one is racist conversations.

00:46:54.000 The okay, we do the okay side.

00:46:56.000 No, no, no.

00:46:56.000 But but I I understand that they try to put shoehorn in weird symbols, but literally saying the numbers one through ninety are racist, you're just like wasn't 311 like oh yeah.

00:47:06.000 Like 311 was a thing.

00:47:07.000 That was that always made me laugh because it's like his fist on the table.

00:47:09.000 Yeah, you're like, like, so I like 311.

00:47:12.000 Whoa.

00:47:14.000 And uh You're like, I just I just like listening to this music, man.

00:47:17.000 Why are you yelling?

00:47:18.000 And so that that started, but Perry Abbassi, what he did looking that up, just started this ball rolling uh because he's just posting, right?

00:47:24.000 Literally just posting, and then Elon hits it, and then it starts getting bigger, and then the ADL has to take down their glossary, which happened.

00:47:32.000 We we broke the news yesterday here on the show.

00:47:34.000 And and then today, boom, Cassio's wait, there's a partnership with those numbskulls. 0.99

00:47:38.000 No, ADL was training FB agents.

00:47:40.000 Yeah, but they also have a partnership with YouTube and PayPal.

00:47:43.000 PayPal was deciding that's way more going to be debanked and and who was going to have an account based on what the ADL was telling them to do, as they were literally just celebrating uh the deplatforming of Alex Jones.

00:47:54.000 So this is a a censorship type of organization that has bullied organizations and institutions and has clearly violated the first amendment.

00:48:02.000 There should be federal charges by the federal government against the ADL.

00:48:05.000 Now, if Cash is the head of the FBI and he just found out about this, how much how much is going on behind his back?

00:48:14.000 You know, on a regular basis, deep statey type stuff that uh that the head 98% more, probably I would I would imagine like that they'd probably keep the FBI head on a leash.

00:48:26.000 I mean, J. Edgar Hoover was like the guy that had compromised on everybody, and this current administration does not seem to be interested in gaining compramat on people, or if they do, they don't want to talk about it.

00:48:36.000 We need another J. Edgar Hoover.

00:48:38.000 That's that was like the Epstein thing.

00:48:40.000 They were like hoovering people with uh Gilane Maxwell was playing Hoover for her daddy. 1.00

00:48:45.000 I'm getting real close to just uh re-uploading our episode with uh Joe Rogan and Alex Jones because they claimed that oh yeah, we're gonna review these they're paying Trump 25 million YouTube, and they're claiming that they're gonna uncensor all these things.

00:48:57.000 And three years after we did the episode with Rogan, Luke, Alex Jones, Blair White, Drew Hernandez, Ian, I mean it was a it was a massive show.

00:49:05.000 They took it down, citing some nebulous medical misinformation.

00:49:10.000 It's still down today, even though they've already announced they'd be reversing this, and I've appealed it over and over and over again.

00:49:15.000 I'm getting real close to being like, I'm just gonna re-play the whole thing.

00:49:17.000 Just re-block it straight up.

00:49:18.000 There you go.

00:49:19.000 Is it on Rumble or it was our biggest show?

00:49:22.000 Uh actually it was the time now.

00:49:22.000 Yeah.

00:49:24.000 The episode we did with Darren Beattie is the biggest show we've ever done.

00:49:26.000 I don't know why, Darren.

00:49:28.000 I don't I don't know why, but we did a show with him, it has like 10 or 11 million views.

00:49:32.000 He's got that Midas touch.

00:49:33.000 he does.

00:49:34.000 Well, you know what I think it was is it was something contextual at the time that we were talking about that was big, and he shared it with his network, and then it ended up taking off on Rumble.

00:49:43.000 What's the history of the ADL?

00:49:44.000 Like who funds it, who started it, and why?

00:49:47.000 Do you think it's no?

00:49:48.000 That's anti-Semitic.

00:49:50.000 Is it off the top of your head?

00:49:51.000 Was it an anti-banking Israeli uh company?

00:49:54.000 Or was it well I don't know I don't know I don't know about that?

00:49:56.000 Is it like secret?

00:49:57.000 So it was it was it was American, it was it was it was started in in the South uh over a a disputed case uh involving an individual named Leo Frank, um who you know they claim was lynched for uh anti-Semitic purposes.

00:50:12.000 Um but he was accused of hurting a 13-year-old child.

00:50:15.000 Yes, that's right.

00:50:16.000 And um the ADL was sort of born in in a very similar vein to the SPLC um based in the South at that time.

00:50:16.000 Yeah.

00:50:26.000 Um it was ADL was earlier, and as a way for uh purportedly for uh Jews and Jewish groups to be able to defend themselves both legally and in the public sphere.

00:50:37.000 Yeah, he was convicted by a jury of Leo Frank.

00:50:41.000 Yeah, he was convicted by a jury of forcing himself and and taking the life of a 13-year-old girl.

00:50:46.000 Oh my yeah, yikes Leo Leo Frank.

00:50:49.000 It's called the anti-defamation league, but it's funny because liberals like to put anti in front of the things they do.

00:50:53.000 So when they're like, I'm anti-racist, let's segregate races. 0.99

00:50:56.000 You're like, what? 0.91

00:50:57.000 Like, I'm anti-fascist, let's brutally beat people who disagree with us.

00:51:00.000 And then the ADL is like, we're anti-defamation. 0.94

00:51:02.000 Let's smear and defame tons of people. 0.78

00:51:04.000 I'm just thinking about that anti-communist.

00:51:05.000 Where is he right now?

00:51:07.000 Are you not a communist?

00:51:08.000 I mean, by this logic, he's basically saying he's a communist now.

00:51:10.000 I hope you're not.

00:51:11.000 Yeah, that's the funny thing.

00:51:12.000 It's like, let's call ourselves anti whatever it is we do, and then people will be like, We're anti-fascist.

00:51:16.000 It's just anti-defamation.

00:51:18.000 It's like a lazy sledgehammer, man.

00:51:20.000 It does nothing.

00:51:21.000 Now, is it like a like an Al Sharpton type of operation where it's like, we'll go after Pepsi and call Pepsi racist unless you donate, you know, 500K Pepsi.

00:51:30.000 It very much became that.

00:51:31.000 Yes.

00:51:31.000 Pepsi is very racist unless they give turning point one million dollars.

00:51:36.000 And we are changed uh five thousand dollars.

00:51:38.000 So I'm trying to I was trying to pull up my old tweets about this, but the the ADL at one point, and this this is recently that this came up within the last couple of years, they had a a definition of racism that was ripped straight from uh critical race theory where they were basically saying that that race the definition you looked up the definition of racism on the ADL's website, it said a system of privileges that benefit white people.

00:52:02.000 Well, I think so.

00:52:03.000 Basically, you only white people could be racist.

00:52:06.000 There was some controversy because it they they had some definition of racism that was woke that also insulted Jews in some way or something.

00:52:12.000 And I think Yeah, that's I'm trying to pull up because I remember that too.

00:52:15.000 Yeah.

00:52:15.000 Where people are like, hey, doesn't this apply to Israel and Jews?

00:52:17.000 And they defended it real quick.

00:52:18.000 And then they had to do an interim definition of racism, which I just thought was so funny.

00:52:22.000 It's an interim.

00:52:23.000 It's like you guys are supposed to be the experts on this.

00:52:26.000 You're training the FBI.

00:52:29.000 You're working with local law enforcement.

00:52:31.000 You've been working with homeland security.

00:52:33.000 So what what they need to do is all of these groups, the ADL, the SPLC, uh, whatever, you know, little acronym organization they come up with, they need to be shunned, they need to be ostracized, they need to be kicked out of society.

00:52:44.000 Uh, it is groups like this that turned that again, put turning point USA on their hate maps, put them on the list.

00:52:51.000 This led to the smearing, censorship, canceling, ostracision, uh, and by the way, do they try to use state power to take down this organization?

00:52:58.000 The FBI placed this under or under uh investigation last year.

00:53:02.000 We're still getting the receipts on that.

00:53:03.000 And then ultimately, what and then ultimately when all of that failed, somebody took a shot at Charlie Kirk and killed him.

00:53:09.000 And it all has to go.

00:53:11.000 It all has to go away.

00:53:12.000 We have to stop this, we have to stop it now.

00:53:14.000 I think it's gonna get worse.

00:53:16.000 I I'm I'm I'm kind of at my wits and I'm trying to be everyone's being very diplomatic.

00:53:21.000 They are trying not to shock or offend.

00:53:24.000 And I'm kind of like, let's let's let's uh remove that veil.

00:53:28.000 I I think it's fine to be professional and not antagonistic, but I'm done being overly diplomatic to protect the feelings of other people.

00:53:36.000 I think it's important that we just say what we think about what people are doing.

00:53:41.000 That being said, there are a lot of people that I think are ignoring the scope of this problem.

00:53:46.000 There are a lot of prominent individuals that you know uh to get specific, Dana White, we talked about this this morning where he said.

00:53:52.000 I I went actually when you got off the show, I kind of went off my last segment.

00:53:56.000 I don't I don't want to.

00:53:56.000 Right.

00:53:58.000 I don't want to get into it, but it's like people seem to wake up.

00:54:00.000 People seem to wait, and Joe Rogan saying he was he was shocked, you know, and it it's guys, it's very urgent.

00:54:05.000 It's urgent.

00:54:06.000 Luke points up to urgent situations.

00:54:07.000 Yeah, well, he during the the moment that it happened, he was interviewing Charlie Sheen.

00:54:13.000 And during that moment, he even said himself, like people are probably gonna celebrate this.

00:54:17.000 So he's what what is the now saying I I'm shocked that this is this is happening.

00:54:21.000 And he was bigger than he thought, I guess.

00:54:23.000 I don't know.

00:54:24.000 You know, I I will cut him some slack in that I I think it's fair.

00:54:27.000 I said I was surprised to see people I knew for decades.

00:54:30.000 I'm not surprised by nurses and teachers doing these things because they've been, these teachers have been giving kids smut and defending it. 0.98

00:54:36.000 Like the weird books I can't even say on this show because try to be family friendly.

00:54:39.000 That's how disgusting it is.

00:54:40.000 Well, the celebration are and teachers' colleges are particularly Marxist.

00:54:45.000 All colleges at this point are Marxist, unless one except for the ones that are explicitly anti-Marxist.

00:54:51.000 Um but the teachers' colleges are explicitly Marxist.

00:54:54.000 They are basically like Marxist madrasas uh and and they're they're creating these domestic terrorist uh instructors and then sending them out into the world.

00:55:03.000 We we talked a little bit about this on Charlie's show earlier.

00:55:05.000 I think it's gonna get worse because uh uh throwing it out to uh uh credit to Will Chamberlain, this point is very important.

00:55:12.000 I told him I won't call for these people to be fired, but I won't defend them.

00:55:15.000 And he said, You're you're you're nicer than me, I think they should be fired.

00:55:18.000 A society that tolerates the veneration of assassination is a society that has opened the door to civil war.

00:55:24.000 These people should not be welcome in polite society.

00:55:27.000 I'm paraphrasing for the most part, but I said, you know what?

00:55:29.000 You're right.

00:55:30.000 If we continue to allow people on social media and in the workplace or wherever they are to celebrate assassinations, justify the assassinations, we are going to get more.

00:55:40.000 And I will stress this as much as we have condemned it, when and I and I don't again, I'm not saying this to be disrespectful to Dana White.

00:55:46.000 I'm saying I'm not gonna be super diplomatic.

00:55:48.000 Okay, I'm gonna call I'm gonna call it like it is and say, Dana, you need to pay attention to what's going on.

00:55:52.000 These people have celebrated Luigi Manjaone, and then Charlie Kirk is killed less than a year later.

00:55:57.000 I don't want any more people to die.

00:55:59.000 And it's particularly terrifying when it's when it comes to when it comes home.

00:56:03.000 And that's why when I see Dana White say, look, people shouldn't lose their jobs.

00:56:06.000 Okay, when these people start celebrating assassins, and then they start calling you out because you have defended Trump and helped Trump win, what are we gonna say?

00:56:15.000 I don't want that to happen to Dana White.

00:56:16.000 I love USC.

00:56:17.000 I think he's i he's uh he's a business masterman.

00:56:19.000 I love the work that he's done.

00:56:20.000 I'm a huge fan.

00:56:21.000 We should say to anybody who wants to go online and celebrate murders, political murders for political ends, you're gone.

00:56:29.000 Because we are not gonna create a path towards monetization, followers, you will not be venerated, you'll be excised.

00:56:35.000 Polite political.

00:56:35.000 That's fine.

00:56:36.000 So, Tim, you know, after you think we we talked about this last night, and as soon as I got back to my hotel, I if we finish up the show, and I get a I get a call that said, So over on the post-millennial side, we had Katie Davis court was out in the field in Portland, and they say, Hey, Katie just got assaulted.

00:56:57.000 Yep.

00:56:58.000 And it's and at first it's okay, how is she?

00:57:01.000 Is she all right?

00:57:01.000 Are we in comms with her?

00:57:03.000 And uh this Antifa uh female had basically taken a flagpole and swung it like a baseball bat and cracked her and almost almost literally almost blew her eye out. 1.00

00:57:14.000 And uh thank God, you know, it it she's gonna get medical and and checked out. 1.00

00:57:19.000 I haven't seen the actual reports, but it seems like she just got a black eye.

00:57:23.000 A couple inches to the left, a couple inches north, could have been a lot worse.

00:57:27.000 And then she was calling and posting videos saying the local police here in Portland won't even arrest her.

00:57:34.000 I chased her down the street. 0.59

00:57:36.000 I have all of this on film.

00:57:38.000 They say it's too dangerous for us to go into this Antifa safe house that she located.

00:57:45.000 So now then I'm calling up like members of DHS that I know, uh some of the higher ups there, members of the administration sending these are saying, guys, we gotta do something.

00:57:53.000 So we're using geolocation.

00:57:54.000 Okay, she's you know, she posted this on this corner, so she's in this vicinity.

00:57:59.000 If it's been this many minutes, she's gone this far.

00:58:02.000 And fortunately, we were able to locate her, she kept working, she kept going.

00:58:05.000 Tim, there's been uh complete silence.

00:58:08.000 You talked about a lot of people talked about it, but almost complete silence from conservative media, uh, complete silence from mainstream media, no journalist associations have reached out, nothing.

00:58:17.000 I I think we need federal law enforcement to stop playing games.

00:58:23.000 And and I mean political games.

00:58:23.000 Yes.

00:58:25.000 Why is it we the line has been crossed with these terror attacks on ICE facilities?

00:58:29.000 The first one, they had Antifa people outside throwing fireworks.

00:58:34.000 When ICE walked outside to say, okay, they're throwing fireworks, someone in the woods unloaded with a rifle.

00:58:39.000 It was a diversion tactic.

00:58:40.000 It was a plan.

00:58:41.000 And then we get three terror attacks.

00:58:43.000 You are allowed to peaceably assemble in this country.

00:58:45.000 We respect that.

00:58:46.000 That means you can stand outside, hold up your signs, scream all you want, but you can't throw stuff.

00:58:51.000 You can't blow stuff up.

00:58:52.000 You can't physically attack ICE officers or smash windows and attack vehicles.

00:58:56.000 I'm even willing to accept nonviolent civil disobedience, meaning if they sit down and link arms in front of the chain link fence, then they'll come up, they'll get arrested for a disorderly or something, slap on the wrist, all of that's acceptable.

00:59:07.000 But why are we allowing them to physically attack people and police and the feds are still holding back?

00:59:13.000 Now, with all due respect, I understand they've stepped things up quite a bit.

00:59:16.000 But I'm just saying the moment you get obstruction, you say, you are all going to be arrested.

00:59:23.000 We are not going to create a circumstance where terrorists can continue these attacks.

00:59:27.000 The line has been crossed.

00:59:28.000 I'm not going to play these games where it's like, well, we know there are terror attacks that have happened, but our concern is that no, no, no, no.

00:59:34.000 The left crossed the line three times with these terror attacks on ice, let alone the other attacks we've seen and the murder of Charlie Kirk.

00:59:41.000 Circumstance and context matters.

00:59:44.000 When someone comes out and says, But you can't have a protest disrupted by No, no, no, no.

00:59:48.000 You can when we have been dealing with where we have 30 to 40 terror attacks this year already.

00:59:53.000 And I mean literal, overt, shootings, firebombs uh, some of them murders.

00:59:59.000 We say extenuating circumstances have been created by the left.

01:00:03.000 We don't want to live this way, but there's a reason why we're deploying ICE, CBP, and National Guard.

01:00:08.000 If you come out to an ICE facility and you are causing these problems, you will be arrested.

01:00:13.000 I I would even go a step further.

01:00:14.000 I would say you you take a look at these networks.

01:00:16.000 They have a safe house in Portland.

01:00:18.000 Yeah.

01:00:19.000 And by the way, to you know, to the people who say, oh, they don't exist.

01:00:19.000 There's an address.

01:00:22.000 Well, they they have an address.

01:00:23.000 You know, they're not even a group.

01:00:24.000 They've merched.

01:00:25.000 Didn't Trump just sign an executive order about uh labeling them a terrorist group?

01:00:30.000 Indeed, and he then followed up a few days later, instructing all branches of of government under the executive to go after their funding sources and their organization structure, which they have.

01:00:40.000 There are leaders.

01:00:41.000 There's a hierarchy, and I point out even lobsters have hierarchy. 0.97

01:00:45.000 The the the ADL ran cover for them saying there are leaderless, decentralized network.

01:00:50.000 That is not correct.

01:00:52.000 It's fair to say that there are organized factions.

01:00:56.000 They fly the same flag and they coordinate with each other, but that does not mean leaderless.

01:01:00.000 That's a lie to defend them.

01:01:02.000 It seems like the president just one day going, and they're a terrorist organization.

01:01:06.000 Now everyone go get them.

01:01:07.000 That's a little uh hit the brakes, boy.

01:01:10.000 Okay, you know, let me ask you some questions.

01:01:12.000 But I'm glad you asked this because it is a is it is a challenge of our morals and our views that the people need to hear.

01:01:17.000 Was Abraham Lincoln wrong to suspend habeas corpus?

01:01:20.000 No.

01:01:21.000 He was also at war because he was at war with another country.

01:01:23.000 And what do you mean he was at war?

01:01:25.000 The South broke into a second country and they were fighting a conventional war he had to break off the water.

01:01:28.000 Who started that war?

01:01:29.000 The people that broke up.

01:01:30.000 Well, it depends on who you ask.

01:01:31.000 They think that Abraham Lincoln started it, they call it the war of northern aggression.

01:01:35.000 Who invaded whom?

01:01:35.000 The North invaded the South.

01:01:36.000 I mean, it just depends on how you look at it, but yeah.

01:01:38.000 And in indeed, so the point I'm bringing up is there's arguments over who started the war because the South engaged Fort Sumter, even though it was a federal, it was a union base.

01:01:47.000 So there's a there's a debate over there.

01:01:49.000 There's a question of moral clarity in that slavery was wrong.

01:01:52.000 So we're we're happy they got defeated and slavery was ended.

01:01:55.000 But Abraham Lincoln, at the start of the war, he has uh, or actually, I should I should to be fair, I'm not gonna say at the start of the war, but was it wrong of him to arrest one third of the Maryland legislature?

01:02:06.000 Including the governor, I believe.

01:02:08.000 This is uh after the Philadelphia riots.

01:02:10.000 Is this why he suspended the habeas?

01:02:11.000 I don't know if there was a Philadelphia riot.

01:02:12.000 There was a riot real close to the Capitol.

01:02:14.000 He's like, we need to lock down the area around the Capitol, is what happened.

01:02:16.000 The point I'm bringing up is you you say something very simple, and this is the point I'm making about extenuating circumstances.

01:02:21.000 The president pointed to a group that said they're terrorists go get him.

01:02:24.000 We can't have that.

01:02:24.000 No, no, no, that's not what happened.

01:02:25.000 We are dealing with a decade of precedent where Andy Noah was nearly murdered in the street, his ears had blood pouring from them.

01:02:32.000 Aaron Danielson was shot and killed by a guy with a BLM tattoo on his neck, two bullets in the chest.

01:02:36.000 Charlie Kirk was just killed by a guy, uh allegedly the I should say the assassin, the alleged assassin, espoused ideology in line with these liberal groups.

01:02:45.000 When this is the circumstance within our culture, this is when we say, okay, are we in Lincoln territory?

01:02:53.000 Now, I'm not saying that Trump should suspend habeas corpus.

01:02:56.000 I'm saying Trump pointing to Antifa with organized factions, merch leaders engaging in terror, safe houses, a legal apparatus, and three terror attacks on ice facilities, and we're still holding back.

01:03:10.000 I don't think it is fair to say Trump going, hey, as a terrorist organization, get him is a character is a correct characterization of what we've witnessed.

01:03:18.000 Because again, I'll stress.

01:03:19.000 It's more like for 10 years the far left has brutally battered people in the streets, shut down conservative events, killed people, firebombed vehicles, gotten away with it, and only after 10 years, Trump said, I think they're terrorists.

01:03:32.000 I I don't think Trump is going hard enough.

01:03:34.000 The the the um Bella Chow. 0.65

01:03:36.000 So of course, one of the bullets that was used on Charlie said Bella Chow.

01:03:40.000 One of the other ones said, Hey, fascist catch.

01:03:42.000 Bella Chow, even in addition to being a popular song in his own right, is also the sort of de facto national international anthem of Antifa. 0.93

01:03:51.000 And and let's add that there have been flyers popping up at various universities that said that say, hey, fascist catch, and they are recruiting people to kill conservatives.

01:04:00.000 It is not an exaggeration. 0.99

01:04:02.000 I'm not gonna play these stupid semantic games that liberals play, well, they're not really doing no, no, no. 0.99

01:04:06.000 They they bullets that they they were they were covered after Charlie was murdered. 1.00

01:04:10.000 One of them said, hey, fascist catch.

01:04:12.000 So what and and they use flyers saying join our gun club.

01:04:15.000 What they are saying is, do you agree with the message sent when they murdered this man in cold blood?

01:04:20.000 My question is is it the organization that's called Antifa, or is it dudes in black blocks like what's the real terrorist?

01:04:26.000 I would actually I so the way that I've kind of broken this down is I've said that Antifa itself is an ideology in the way that you would say radical Islam is an ideology.

01:04:38.000 But within that ideology, there are many groups, some of which call themselves like Rose City Antifa.

01:04:43.000 Some of them call that use like the John Brown gun club.

01:04:46.000 I gotta push back a little bit.

01:04:49.000 ISIS and Antifa are the same thing.

01:04:52.000 Like obviously ICIS is substantially more dangerous, more violent.

01:04:56.000 But within extremist Islam, you have ISIS. 0.88

01:04:59.000 Within extremist leftism, you have Antifa.

01:05:02.000 So people fly the flag of Antifa, they organize around its banner.

01:05:06.000 It means something to them.

01:05:08.000 There are organizing principles and there are leaders, much like ISIS.

01:05:11.000 100%.

01:05:12.000 It's not just an ideology.

01:05:14.000 I'm not saying it's just.

01:05:15.000 I'm I'm like, if you really want to have the discussion, you know, you could say Antifa is like the umbrella term, and there are also multiple organizations, anti-racist action, the torch network, Roe City Antifa, et cetera, et cetera.

01:05:28.000 But there are there are principal leaders that control all of it.

01:05:31.000 And and and this is the lieutenant.

01:05:32.000 Okay, so I I don't like dig into this, but if if if you want to ask, like, okay, there's a bunch where you can talk about.

01:05:38.000 But at the end of the day, it's very simple to say Antifa is a domestic terrorist organization.

01:05:42.000 They are a network, they are they do have centralization, they do and by the way, the money is how you can find them.

01:05:50.000 The money is how you can track this.

01:05:52.000 When those people know when the National Lawyers Guild, the NLG, goes out and say, Oh, well, uh, we know there's going to be Antifa action, so we're gonna be there.

01:06:02.000 How do you know to be there?

01:06:03.000 Who told you to be there?

01:06:04.000 You know, you know who's really great on this one?

01:06:06.000 Uh we we're we're booking him to come on Nate Friedman.

01:06:09.000 So guys follow him on social media on Instagram, Nate Friedman underscore.

01:06:14.000 He's been he's been exposing the paid protesters, and this just scratches the surface.

01:06:19.000 I've mentioned this time and time again.

01:06:21.000 When uh and Luke, you know this.

01:06:22.000 Yeah.

01:06:22.000 When we were on the ground covering these protests, and Luke and I, as journalists and uh, you know, people who we would travel the world, we go to various countries, we'd be in Germany, we'd be in France, we'd be in Singapore.

01:06:35.000 They were somehow in Turkey, they're somehow the same protesters we saw in New York were in Germany, in Turkey.

01:06:42.000 We called them the tourists because we're like, it's very strange that this guy who reported to be some local New York guy to protest, is here on the ground in Turkey at the exact same time.

01:06:51.000 Who's paying for this?

01:06:52.000 How are they involved in these protests?

01:06:54.000 And I've seen some of these people in France at direct action meetings, organizing, helping people craft shields by sawing uh garbage bins in half, watching them spray paint the Antifa shield, and they were protesting outside the best deal.

01:07:09.000 And I'm like, that's pretty crazy that that guy was in Turkey and New York and LA, and now he's in France.

01:07:14.000 Yeah, they're far more organized than a lot of people understand them to be organized.

01:07:18.000 And then there's you know bigger kind of figureheads like George Soros that of course pour in a lot of the money, and that money just accidentally goes to a lot of these left-wing type of organizations that uh have all this chaos in our society.

01:07:30.000 how uh coincidental.

01:07:32.000 What really concerns me hearing about Katie getting attacked is think I you I was actually thinking about Andy No, who was also attacked, and that like Nick Shirley.

01:07:39.000 I yeah, he's showing me a picture of Katie right now.

01:07:41.000 I mean I would I was attacked.

01:07:42.000 So what's happening is it you have to do that.

01:07:44.000 People start treating this like we legitimate not a I'm not saying attack.

01:07:49.000 You've been attacked too.

01:07:50.000 I'm not saying all of here have been attacked.

01:07:52.000 Yeah, literally.

01:07:54.000 It's not a cut because I haven't dangled my junk into the combat zone on purpose to get some camera footage, but that's the big part of what's the problem.

01:08:02.000 Go under if you're gonna do it, go undercover. 0.75

01:08:04.000 Otherwise, you're wearing a hunk of meat in a lions to Nick Shirley.

01:08:07.000 I love you.

01:08:08.000 Take care of yourself, man.

01:08:10.000 You Carlin Borosenko went undercover.

01:08:13.000 Do stuff like that.

01:08:14.000 Like if you if you want to expose this thing, don't pariah, please. 1.00

01:08:18.000 Ian, here's and and I agree with you to an extent.

01:08:21.000 Um, because you're right.

01:08:22.000 Like I don't I don't want something bad to happen to Nick.

01:08:24.000 I don't want something bad to happen to Katie.

01:08:26.000 Uh Andy saw what happened to Charlie.

01:08:29.000 And at the same time, we shouldn't have to be in a situation where citizen journalists are going out doing their jobs and unable to do so, or independent journalists going out and unable to do their jobs because the streets have been taken over by left-wing extreme violent forces.

01:08:48.000 Yeah by at left look at the video of Nick Shirley from that we played the other night where he's running around and the guys in his face, and it's okay, they're painting a laser on him with this with this green dot.

01:08:58.000 All right, fine.

01:08:58.000 But guess what?

01:08:59.000 He could have, he could have had a weapon. 0.98

01:09:01.000 He could have killed Nick. 0.97

01:09:02.000 Yeah. 0.94

01:09:02.000 He could have killed him. 0.94

01:09:04.000 And now, by the way, the Porton Portland police last night said, Oh, well, we can't do anything about this because it's too dangerous.

01:09:10.000 Now they've posted a picture of the girl who assaulted Katie, and they're saying, we'd like help from the public to identify this person to arrest them.

01:09:19.000 The public was being assaulted by this person, and you stood there and did nothing while the victim was begging for you to arrest her assaulter.

01:09:28.000 And then she comes on my show with a giant black eye earlier today, and I'm sitting there, and and and we got to worry about, you know, these these men, and I'm sorry, it is the men, you know, who should know better, who should be taking this more urgently, that are talking about it, oh, well, it's a both sides thing.

01:09:42.000 We shouldn't have canceled culture.

01:09:44.000 Guys, shut up, right?

01:09:45.000 We need to step up and get control of this before more people get hurt and die. 0.86

01:09:49.000 Well, this is here here's the problem I see, and this is why I was making reference to not to single out Dana White, but he did get this interview.

01:09:55.000 There are many people in this space.

01:09:57.000 They are the Trump supporting moderates, I suppose, that are saying we don't want to do that.

01:10:01.000 We don't want to be like that.

01:10:02.000 You've got these um you've got certain certain individuals like uh I think Seth Dylan was on this uh uh this this this bent where he was like we don't engage in cancel culture and all that.

01:10:13.000 And this attitude of we should not have a a line will be our downfall.

01:10:24.000 The left has been unrelenting in their censorship and their abuse of power.

01:10:30.000 Let me let me let me add this.

01:10:31.000 I just bumped into a CBP agent earlier today, and he showed us photos, and I told him you should probably go public with this, and he was concerned about getting in trouble.

01:10:41.000 I said, I don't know that the Trump administration is gonna be mad at you if you expose what's going on.

01:10:45.000 The pictures that I saw, I wish I could get for you.

01:10:48.000 Maybe we'll we'll we'll we'll press a little bit further, and maybe maybe we can work with him on this one.

01:10:52.000 Or work with the department with DHS to make sure that these can be done in a proper manner.

01:10:57.000 Photos of storerooms full of resources for illegal immigrants.

01:11:02.000 There's uh some of the stories that I was told as hundreds of thousands of dollars being spent on their health care.

01:11:08.000 As soon as they walk in, they're like, I'm sick, I need health care, and then we pay for it.

01:11:12.000 We for too long have we have the left has run roughshod.

01:11:18.000 Liberals have just done whatever they've wanted.

01:11:20.000 They opened the border and let in 10 to 20 million people while we foot the bill for all of those costs.

01:11:26.000 We elected Donald Trump and said we are concerned about immigration.

01:11:29.000 Please, Trump, we want to do this legally and lawfully, which I still believe is the appropriate way to do it.

01:11:34.000 Yet still, even after Charlie Kirk was brutally murdered, there are people who are like, now now slow down there, guys.

01:11:41.000 We need to take this one easy.

01:11:43.000 And I'm like, bro, there were four terror attacks in four weeks.

01:11:47.000 I think right now we should be talking about how seriously we need to take this and stop sitting here saying, nah, nah, everything's fine.

01:11:52.000 I've been thinking about brutality in general, how the United States really hasn't seen it.

01:11:56.000 We saw in in May 7th, what is it, May 4th, 1970, the National Guard killed four college students.

01:12:01.000 I think about China, Tianman Square.

01:12:02.000 Who were attacking them?

01:12:03.000 Yeah, they were throwing rocks.

01:12:05.000 The kids were throwing rocks at the at the National Guard and they opened fire and four guys.

01:12:09.000 Okay, so they were really attacking them.

01:12:10.000 So in China, Tian Min Square in 1992, I think it was brutal crackdown.

01:12:10.000 Yes.

01:12:15.000 You don't see street violence in China anymore.

01:12:17.000 June 489.

01:12:18.000 So what level of brutality are you guys willing to witness?

01:12:22.000 Um, Ian, I'm gonna ask you this again because you're you're uh I think it's a good point you're making in that people need to hear this from in our moral worldview.

01:12:32.000 Charlie Kirk was murdered in cold blood in front of his family.

01:12:37.000 And it was I mean, the video was, but his family is not present.

01:12:41.000 His family was not there.

01:12:42.000 They were not present.

01:12:43.000 I I was on I I was uh I know that that's kind of been out there, but they're not conflicting reports also.

01:12:43.000 Oh, okay.

01:12:52.000 They were not present.

01:12:53.000 Let's just Erica um came. 0.94

01:12:56.000 I think what happened was that because you know it Phoenix and Salt Lake City are are fairly close in proximity flight time.

01:13:03.000 So Erica got to Salt Lake City very quickly, and I think a lot of people kind of conflated that, but she had actually not been attending an event and and the kids in general don't worry about it.

01:13:13.000 Then let me then let me walk that back as it is uh unnecessary to the greater point.

01:13:18.000 When Ian, you ask, what brutality are we willing to witness?

01:13:21.000 And I'm I'm I'm like uh none, but the left has not stopped in a decade.

01:13:26.000 So if your attitude is they've killed, they'll kill again, but we don't want brutality, so we're gonna sit back and take it, you are wrong.

01:13:31.000 No, I want to know how much brutality you're willing to sit by and watch happen because there's some coming.

01:13:37.000 And Jack made this point.

01:13:38.000 And I think Jack made a very good point by saying a lot of the times police officers are complicit in many of these instances for allowing it to happen, but not allowing you to defend yourself.

01:13:48.000 And there are a number of documented cases that I went through personally where people attack me, people steal my stuff, people you know sought me, and um and the police officers are like, good luck, kid.

01:13:56.000 Uh, but but you know, or a right winger does something automatically they're they're all on top of them.

01:14:00.000 So at least allow people one to defend themselves.

01:14:03.000 Uh two, and if you're gonna enforce the laws, enforce them uh actually equally, uh, which I think is important.

01:14:08.000 Uh Jason, you were talking about you know stuff that happened to you.

01:14:11.000 I don't know if you want to share or open up about what happened to you.

01:14:13.000 I mean, you're a comedian.

01:14:14.000 You make literally exactly what you just said.

01:14:17.000 Um I I was at a uh anti-Trump protest, and I come in doing my thing.

01:14:21.000 I have a little bullhorn.

01:14:22.000 I hired a guy to play Elon.

01:14:24.000 This is right after the um the um chainsaw thing.

01:14:27.000 But you think they would like that at an anti.

01:14:28.000 It would be funny.

01:14:29.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:14:30.000 But well, well, it it's it's either or because some people think I'm making fun of them.

01:14:34.000 Yeah, but um so but they viciously they just saw somebody dressed as Trump, and they all literally ran after me, and the cops were there, and then we got kicked out.

01:14:45.000 I mean, my microphone I uh got thrown off, you know, yeah, I had to replace it.

01:14:50.000 Um but yeah, no, I was hit, I was all sorts of stuff.

01:14:53.000 It was all so fast, but it's I got it all on camera too.

01:14:55.000 You okay?

01:14:56.000 But um, yeah, but that was fine.

01:14:57.000 Okay.

01:14:57.000 But um, but then we got escorted out, and um zero repercussions for those who attacked.

01:15:03.000 Jamie Raskin.

01:15:04.000 Let me let me let me pull up this video.

01:15:05.000 Sorry, because this is in line with what we're talking about.

01:15:07.000 This is a video from Cam Higby.

01:15:07.000 Luke just sent me this.

01:15:09.000 A leftist decided to physically attack me at Union Station tonight.

01:15:12.000 I deployed Mason's self-defense.

01:15:13.000 It's an important video.

01:15:14.000 I want I want to here's a life.

01:15:20.000 Oh, okay.

01:15:21.000 Oh, hey, hey, yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

01:15:25.000 Back fuck up. 0.99

01:15:28.000 So this is Cam Higby. 0.99

01:15:29.000 He's been going to uh universities, he's been uh offering up debates, sitting down in chairs, and this is what they they they try to do.

01:15:36.000 It's antagonistic, low grade attacks.

01:15:39.000 Well, he's defending himself.

01:15:40.000 Is she like on her knees right there? 1.00

01:15:42.000 I'm trying to pushing into him and trying to grab his hat or the microphone.

01:15:45.000 Okay, and then he deploys mace.

01:15:47.000 I don't want to see any of this happen.

01:15:48.000 I I I don't.

01:15:49.000 Horrible.

01:15:49.000 But but the problem is if you if you watch every time someone like Andy No or Nick Shirley or or you know, literally anybody goes on the ground, they play this game where they know that they're they're doing enough to disrupt to lightly damage, but it's hard to get police to do anything about it.

01:16:06.000 Yeah, he might get in trouble now.

01:16:07.000 He he if if the district attorney sees this claim, and they're finance by George Soros.

01:16:12.000 They're like, oh no, he used Mace.

01:16:13.000 Why did he use Mace?

01:16:15.000 And there's a big chance, and it has happened in places like New York City where people defend themselves, you go to jail, which is insane.

01:16:21.000 So uh I was just gonna say, uh uh Jamie Raskin um ordered a hit on me at Union Station um a couple of weeks ago.

01:16:30.000 And I so I'm I'm I'm going to this pro life gala and I get off the train at union station and actually my wife uh had been there to pick me up and I happen to see that Jamie Raskin is there with like a bunch of union workers and this is when they were doing the anti-doge stuff. 0.94

01:16:49.000 And it's oh wow, Jamie Raskin, and he's got it's got a bullhorn.

01:16:52.000 So I I walk over and you know it's Jamie Raskin.

01:16:54.000 So it's I start, you know, filming and he's going and surrounded by all these union workers, and and Jamie Raskin is is is going and he's he's doing his thing.

01:17:05.000 And he's and then he starts saying, and you know something?

01:17:08.000 The people are with us.

01:17:09.000 The American people are with us, they support us, they support what we're doing.

01:17:13.000 And I and I just sit there and I'm like, well, Jamie, if the American people support you, why'd they vote for Donald Trump?

01:17:18.000 You know, if they support you so much.

01:17:20.000 And he's like, What?

01:17:21.000 What?

01:17:22.000 And then he just like gestures at me.

01:17:24.000 The entire crowd of union workers comes in and just starts beating me.

01:17:29.000 Um they they grab my my bag, which right here, but which had my tablet in it, they attack my phone, they do all of this.

01:17:37.000 I've got all this on video.

01:17:38.000 They they push me, they're shoving me a the six years from Sunday, and I go over now, they get across, Capitol Police start screaming at me.

01:17:38.000 Whoa.

01:17:46.000 Capitol Police start saying, Why did you why did you start a fight over there?

01:17:50.000 And they said that and then the union guys went over to Capitol Police and said, Hey, can you arrest that guy?

01:17:55.000 He's threatening the congressman.

01:17:57.000 Wow.

01:17:58.000 And I said, I have the entire thing on video.

01:18:00.000 I'm more than happy to show this to you.

01:18:01.000 I never made a single threat.

01:18:03.000 I never made a threatening gesture.

01:18:04.000 And then the Capitol Police Officer told me that, oh, well, I can see you moving towards him.

01:18:10.000 And I said, I'm moving towards him because the crowd is shoving me towards him after they after he pointed at me to be assaulted.

01:18:19.000 Uh I made a report about this.

01:18:21.000 Capitol Police hasn't done has never done anything.

01:18:23.000 Not a s and I pointed out exactly who it was.

01:18:25.000 They just let them all walk away.

01:18:26.000 I just, you know, look, I I can I can respect and appreciate a lot of the moves that that the executive branch is making.

01:18:31.000 But that's actually legislative.

01:18:33.000 As as an aside too, I'm wondering, like with this Alex Jones thing, like why isn't there any kind of intervention at the federal level over what a clear a clear violation of his rights?

01:18:41.000 I guess it's me with the company.

01:18:43.000 Yeah, like come on.

01:18:46.000 I mean, it's it's it's a bit egregious and insane over defamation to completely destroy a company 10 years later.

01:18:51.000 Not gonna defend what he said, but it's it's it's ridiculous that the lengths they went to destroy InfoWars.

01:18:57.000 And I'm saying, okay, look, isn't is is perhaps like a Harmete Dillon angle on civil rights being violated here or something with the courts in the in the state that they could stop this?

01:19:05.000 We should pull up the story if we haven't yet.

01:19:07.000 I don't think we pulled it up on the show yet, but uh that Alex Jones is shutting down.

01:19:10.000 Yeah, he just mentioned that the court f said today they're they're taking him down.

01:19:14.000 Yeah, what's the I haven't seen the latest?

01:19:16.000 To be fair, that the challenge on this one is, and with all just right to Alex is we've heard this quite a bit.

01:19:20.000 At least three times, yeah.

01:19:21.000 Yeah, so we we've heard quite a bit.

01:19:22.000 The judges ordered the shutdown and we've covered it, and then there's a stay of some sort.

01:19:26.000 So we have another one of these stories where he's saying Federal Judge Greenlights the shutdown, something may intervene, but isn't there something to be done now with winning the election where we have the DOJ, the civil rights division, that we can start countering these things?

01:19:39.000 Yes, I I do get that there's finite bandwidth, but we need now more than ever to see like Jack, why why did they let those guys attack you?

01:19:50.000 I mean, we know what these people are doing.

01:19:53.000 Right.

01:19:54.000 And someone who's got to split this is and I I posted the video, and and again, you know, Capitol Police never even reached out to me afterwards.

01:20:01.000 Um I did have some some good communication with the speaker's office um afterwards where where I discussed it and they they looked into it, but couldn't even get a city.

01:20:10.000 They couldn't even get rid of Paul Illyhan Omar off of her her committee.

01:20:13.000 It feels like I've been reading about the like the fascists of the 1920s, people don't get what time we're in.

01:20:19.000 And the craziness of mobs, like an um how a mob can just do some horrible thing to another human and then it's over.

01:20:26.000 And then like what then there's the mob standing around and did the mob disperses, and like just don't be that guy that in r enraged the mob.

01:20:32.000 I want you to imagine that you're standing on the gallows in front of a sea of 1,000 liberals, and the executioner is walking up to the noose and they say, Plead your case to the people.

01:20:45.000 Do you believe that there is anything you could say in any infinite amount of time that would make them say this man should be allowed to live and be free to go?

01:20:53.000 Nope.

01:20:53.000 Technically, but I doubt I'd come up with it.

01:20:56.000 That's actually a decent answer.

01:20:57.000 I mean, in in in the grand scheme of the universe, you could probably figure out something, but in all reality, it's 99.99%.

01:21:03.000 They don't know, they don't care. 0.98

01:21:05.000 They're gonna scream burn the witch. 1.00

01:21:07.000 They're gonna scream boo the throwing. 1.00

01:21:09.000 Don't be the rich, the witch, don't be the rich.

01:21:12.000 How do you did not know or care, they said off with their heads.

01:21:15.000 And and I sense bloodthirst in these mobs sometimes.

01:21:19.000 Um I don't know.

01:21:20.000 When you tell me that you were yelling, well, you didn't yell when you yell at Raskin with a big crowd, or do you regret would you do it again?

01:21:25.000 Of course they do it again.

01:21:26.000 In a heartbeat.

01:21:27.000 Why?

01:21:28.000 Why?

01:21:29.000 Because this is the United States of America, and I'm allowed to have freedom of speech, and that this guy's gonna be some leader who, by the way, threw Steve Bannon in jail, through uh Jamie or through Jamie Raskin through Peter Navarro in jail over a complete lie over January 6th, and I can't even go up and confront him in in public without having a union mob of his thugs attack me, then you know what?

01:21:52.000 Then I am gonna do that, and we're gonna continue to do that because if we cower, then they win.

01:21:57.000 Yeah.

01:21:57.000 Well, you don't have to be cowardly and technical.

01:22:00.000 And Turning Point USA, by the way, is gonna continue doing events.

01:22:03.000 And yes, to your point, we are gonna continue being tactical.

01:22:07.000 And and look, sometimes it takes those tactics to be able to force a conversation.

01:22:11.000 And look, I I did not expect a sitting member of Congress to do that, but that is how blatantly untouchable these people feel they are.

01:22:21.000 And you know what?

01:22:22.000 We're letting them.

01:22:24.000 We're the ones letting them be untouchable.

01:22:26.000 It's like that video with Cam where these these liberals assault people and get away with it all the time.

01:22:31.000 With that this only stops when police start just arresting them.

01:22:35.000 When feds go start arresting them.

01:22:37.000 So long as these cities keep saying liberals are allowed to do it, there's only there's only you know you know what I heard, Jack.

01:22:43.000 I heard that there's a lot of people from Washington moving to Arizona.

01:22:45.000 I mean, there's a lot, the left coast coming in.

01:22:48.000 Yeah, why are they leaving?

01:22:50.000 Could it be that Portland is a is a war zone?

01:22:53.000 The businesses are shut down.

01:22:54.000 Well, or was it you said Washington.

01:22:57.000 Oh, right, right.

01:22:58.000 Well, I just mean Pacific Northwest.

01:22:59.000 Yeah.

01:23:00.000 From the left coast.

01:23:01.000 And so you've got Seattle is a disaster.

01:23:04.000 Portland is a disaster.

01:23:05.000 So people are fleeing.

01:23:07.000 The end result of this obvious.

01:23:09.000 The politically appointed police and politicians that uh get elected in these places are not going to change the way they handle things.

01:23:17.000 More and more regular people will flee the anarcho-tyranny, and you will get g geographic bifurcation.

01:23:24.000 What does that result in?

01:23:27.000 Well, I mean, it depends.

01:23:28.000 You know, you you you've got I I get what you're going for, but it results in you also results in massive schisms in the United States, particularly uh on flash button issues, one of which would be because it's because of the Dobbs decision is now a states' rights issue is abortion.

01:23:42.000 So, you know, you're gonna get a situation where certain states are going to have wildly different laws from other states, but you're also gonna but here's the key difference you're gonna have a group of people who says those states aren't allowed to have those laws.

01:23:56.000 Let's let's let's let's do some math real quick, some political math.

01:24:00.000 Uh California has banned federal agents from any any law enforcement from wearing masks, which is targeting ice.

01:24:08.000 The uh DHS has instructed their agents to continue wearing their masks.

01:24:12.000 Yeah, they have no ability to instruct.

01:24:15.000 Will Gavin Newsom enforce his own laws?

01:24:18.000 So have his police go up against or like state troopers, I suppose.

01:24:22.000 State troopers, are they going to enforce the mask law against federal federal law?

01:24:26.000 He's not gonna do it.

01:24:28.000 No, I don't think he's gonna do it.

01:24:29.000 I think that's what I'm saying.

01:24:30.000 What if he does?

01:24:31.000 What if he did, then yes, you would you would absolutely get into a standoff of state and federal authority where you could have a clash.

01:24:40.000 So we so the question right now is hypothetically.

01:24:43.000 I don't think it would, but hypothetically.

01:24:44.000 The question is will Gavin Newsom seek to enforce this law?

01:24:48.000 Because, and everyone wants to say no.

01:24:50.000 Um, I'm fine with the assumption that it won't, but I'm also concerned about normalcy bias and optimism bias.

01:24:55.000 Gavin Newsom wants to win the presidency, has already stated he's he fears there won't be an election, and he's gonna do what the people in California tell him to do, and they are going to say ICE is kidnapping people.

01:25:06.000 They are blackbagging my neighbors, Newsom do something, and he's gonna be like, this is my path to victory.

01:25:13.000 That's why they have the law in the first place.

01:25:14.000 I believe there's actually a decent probability he does try to enforce this.

01:25:18.000 Now the real risk is I think the likely path of enforcement, if he does, this takes effect January 1st, 26th, is through I I believe they say that the it's a pat it's a civil fine.

01:25:27.000 It's a misdemeanor that results in a civil penalty for these law enforcement officers.

01:25:31.000 These ICE officers live in California and they work for the federalized facilities in that state.

01:25:37.000 I think the state's gonna go after their homes, their resources, their assets, and they're going to put the pressure on the ICE agents of if you obey Trump, we will take your life from you, we'll put your family at risk financially and through resource.

01:25:51.000 It's not going to be so obvious and easy as they're gonna try and have you arrested, which creates bad optics.

01:25:56.000 It's literally gonna be a sheriff's of the guy's house and says, Look, we've got uh an order for um, you know, uh, we're taking your house, you owe the state thirty, you know, thirty seven thousand dollars that you haven't paid, so we're seizing your assets.

01:26:09.000 It's not going to be an overtly political issue.

01:26:12.000 It's gonna be the story of a guy who owes money to the state for some reason.

01:26:15.000 This is the the conflict that results in federal agents saying we can't we can't do this job anymore.

01:26:21.000 There there is going to be a muddy conflict between the state and the federal government.

01:26:26.000 We've already seen one of the more terrifying things of Gavin Newsom asserting authority or the National Guard, Trump asserting his authority, it going to the courts, it's bouncing back and forth.

01:26:34.000 Now Oregon is doing the same thing, suing the federal government over whether or not Trump has the actual authority to command the National Guard.

01:26:40.000 What happens when the constituents of California or Oregon demand of their governors stop listening to Trump what he's doing is illegal.

01:26:48.000 They've already asserted it's illegal, they believe it's illegal.

01:26:51.000 They're going to say Trump packed the courts.

01:26:54.000 Let's let's let's go uh to why I think the Jedi are the bad guys.

01:26:54.000 You know what?

01:26:58.000 And I'm I mean somewhat jokingly.

01:26:59.000 But the line in Revenge of the Sith, when may when when uh Anakin says we can't kill the Emperor, which put him on trial, and he says, he controls the courts, he controls us, and he must be stopped now.

01:27:10.000 That line of thinking, these people think that they are the fictional heroes who are saying Trump controls the courts, he controls the Supreme Court.

01:27:18.000 He's it it's it's corrupt and illegal what they're doing.

01:27:20.000 They must be stopped.

01:27:21.000 I I I I the only I just want to preface my response to this by saying the prequels are not canon.

01:27:26.000 Uh there are three Star Wars movies and there's a whole bunch of fan fiction.

01:27:30.000 So beyond that, uh, except for the EU, which is canon.

01:27:33.000 Um shout out to all my base star was EU enjoyers.

01:27:36.000 Um, but that's exactly right.

01:27:38.000 So what you're saying is is and and bec and but take it back a second, because Tim, you and I were talking earlier.

01:27:44.000 Why do they have this fervor?

01:27:46.000 It's theological.

01:27:47.000 It is a sort of anti religion, if you will, where they have the theological fervor that they believe conservatives typically do not.

01:27:56.000 A conservatives will a conservative will say, I don't want to be too conservative.

01:28:00.000 Leftists never say that.

01:28:01.000 Leftists will say, guys, whoa, let's we don't want to go too far here, getting too many people fired, we're canceling too many celebrities.

01:28:07.000 They never say that.

01:28:08.000 They never say that at all.

01:28:09.000 They only get stopped by the ballot box or by market share or something like that.

01:28:13.000 They never ever stop because they have the courage of their conviction.

01:28:17.000 They actually do, by the way.

01:28:18.000 And that's something that a lot of conservatives lack.

01:28:21.000 And you know why, and Charlie Kerr will tell you why.

01:28:23.000 Because he did a video before he died where he said the reason that so many Republicans and conservatives are terrified of going on offense is because they see what happens because of people like Jamie Raskin, and they see what happens to a Steve Bannon or a Jack Pasobic who gets this you know union thug after him in the same spot where Cam Higby's at right now,

01:28:44.000 or a Peter Navarro gets sent to jail, or Donald Trump getting almost shot at, or now, and you could you could even add a piece in, you know, where and I'm I'm not gonna edit Charlie's video, but I was like, wow, you could even at edit that video and have someone say you know, just maybe like a scrolling text, right?

01:29:01.000 And have it say, you know, three weeks after this video was taken, Charlie Kirk was shot dead on campus.

01:29:06.000 I I think you are right about people, there's a chilling effect about the individuals standing up to power and getting arrested or their lawyers getting arrested.

01:29:14.000 And so and people are like a lot of people are very happy that the government seems to be doing it in the harshest way possible, as fast as possible, because they feel powerless.

01:29:24.000 They feel like if they did try it, they would just get arrested, or in four years they'd get arrested.

01:29:29.000 Um and I don't I hope I I don't know that relying on the government to solve the problem is the answer.

01:29:36.000 Well, Ian here's the thing, right?

01:29:37.000 You just mentioned Mussolini.

01:29:38.000 So when the government doesn't step up and protect your people, when the government collapses, when the government shows itself to be ineffective, people start seeking other means.

01:29:50.000 With Mussolini, they they basically Italy destroyed itself in World War One.

01:29:55.000 They they killed all their men trying to take the Asanzo River to the to the east.

01:29:58.000 So they were a wrecked monarchy and they they the fascists marched on the Capitol, they took like 500,000 men and the government.

01:30:05.000 And that's what I mean.

01:30:06.000 That that monarchy, right?

01:30:07.000 That monarchy was a government was seen as a government in collapse, and it was seen as an illegitimate government.

01:30:12.000 And the government didn't want to any bloodshed.

01:30:14.000 They were like, just let him have the country.

01:30:15.000 The king was like just to have him advocate if you don't give them the country.

01:30:18.000 That when people don't get relief from the violence from government not failing to do its job, then they will start seeking other means.

01:30:29.000 In indeed, the question is confidence.

01:30:31.000 Why, why is someone willing to accept a dollar bill for a good or service is because there's confidence that they will be able to exchange that later for something they needed.

01:30:39.000 I see a dollar and I say, I want that.

01:30:41.000 Why?

01:30:42.000 I can go buy a candy bar with it.

01:30:43.000 Luke says, okay, well, I want you to, you know, clean the floors.

01:30:46.000 And I say, Oh, great, I'll get a dollar for this.

01:30:47.000 Same thing is true for government.

01:30:49.000 Government only exists through confidence.

01:30:51.000 And it's the fear of the monopoly on violence that largely keeps people in line.

01:30:54.000 It wasn't always that way.

01:30:56.000 It wasn't supposed to be that way.

01:30:57.000 But a point that I've made over the past several years is the the the thought experiments is to Imagine you're at home, Jack, and you hear your doorbell ring.

01:31:05.000 Maybe you got a ring doorbell, whatever.

01:31:07.000 And you walk up and you look outside, and there's a clown, a literal clown in a full clown outfit. 0.59

01:31:12.000 And you go, uh I didn't order the clown today, he was supposed to come tomorrow.

01:31:15.000 You go, can I help you?

01:31:17.000 And he goes, Clown police, open up, I have a warrant.

01:31:20.000 And you go, huh? 0.54

01:31:21.000 I'm not opening my door for you.

01:31:22.000 I have a warrant.

01:31:23.000 And he holds it up. 0.91

01:31:24.000 Then three clowns come up behind them with vests on, and they're like, open your door, clown police. 0.54

01:31:29.000 What would you be like, what is going on? 0.91

01:31:32.000 Clowns are not coming in my house. 0.93

01:31:34.000 The reason I say something so ridiculous is that when we get to the point where a police officer of any of law enforcement of any faction is not recognized by the individual in their home, they will behave as though a clown shut up on their doorstep, and their warrant is as meaningful as a clown warrant. 0.96

01:31:52.000 That's what happens when there's no confidence in government. 0.84

01:31:54.000 Meaning, if a clown shows up, I have no confidence they can enforce anything, nor do they have any authority. 0.67

01:31:59.000 I have no fear of any retribution or reprisal if I defend myself from clowns trying to break into my house.

01:32:04.000 But if a cop says he's got a warrant, he's coming in your house, you know that all you can do is comply.

01:32:09.000 So we had like the the the force is the government, and then we just have different people in charge.

01:32:14.000 So when Biden was in charge, they arrested all those people for Jan six.

01:32:17.000 It felt like people were getting the raw end of the deal, that they weren't being protected for these four years.

01:32:22.000 Before that, it never really happened.

01:32:24.000 And after that, it well, I mean, whatever you want to think about today, different people tell you different things, but that lack of confidence only seemed to have built over that four-year period.

01:32:32.000 So I don't think it's so lost that it's been like 20 years of hopelessness that the government's thinking.

01:32:37.000 I think there's a chance right now, and that chance really cannot be squandered because if they don't get it right, they will and and so you know, you mentioned talking about clown police.

01:32:47.000 Um, you know, and and and Luke, you know this as well, you know, having grown up in eastern Europe, Tanya, my wife growing up in the collapse of the Soviet Union, and would tell you that, you know, it we and we've talked about it.

01:33:00.000 There's a whole TV show about it that just came out, and we were we were talking, and it's like the police so what ends up happening is that you get gangs and gangs and criminals really rise up, and some gangs might control a whole city, but other gangs, it's typically like a street or a neighborhood or a couple of streets or something, and they're always beefing, and then the police just become they're sort of like another gang.

01:33:21.000 And so there's so much violence and so many reprisals and no authority to stop any of it, that if you don't join the gang, I mean, you're your fair game, basically.

01:33:33.000 And so everyone is forced into these situations because your entire government, your entire society is collapsing all around you.

01:33:40.000 This is why I ask what what level of brutality you're willing to allow to create order.

01:33:43.000 I mean, and there's gonna be some evil done to create some order because our country's been floundering in the state of chaos.

01:33:49.000 It can't happen.

01:33:50.000 If China has a more ordered country than we do, then it's gonna show the world that they have a better system than we do, and we're all going communist if that happens.

01:33:56.000 Defined better.

01:33:58.000 Less violence on the street, a more ordered system.

01:34:00.000 That's it.

01:34:01.000 At what cost, of course?

01:34:02.000 At what cost?

01:34:02.000 But if you look on the street, people aren't screen we don't see Antifa riding on the streets of China right now.

01:34:08.000 And always has been.

01:34:09.000 Yeah, because the Antifa took over China.

01:34:10.000 As I stated earlier, if everybody in this country had the same moral worldview as Charlie Kirk, you'd need no police, not a single law enforcement officer.

01:34:18.000 That is true, obviously, but it's impossible to be an impossibility to have that kind of uniformity.

01:34:22.000 Except in the early days of this country, we didn't have police forces.

01:34:25.000 Just militias.

01:34:27.000 Well, it was just the local guys, and the militia was just the local guys who had weapons.

01:34:31.000 And the police department, I think police uh came into be in the in the 18th century, they started to emerge.

01:34:36.000 And now we've got internet videos.

01:34:37.000 So when there's a riot in Portland, the the federal government knows within three minutes and they can get federal troops there within two an hour.

01:34:45.000 But 10, 30 years ago, they wouldn't even hear about the riot until the next day or so.

01:34:49.000 Today is the – Requiring written laws is a horrible sign for your civilization.

01:34:53.000 The fact that we have to write down what people should not do – like you ever see a sign and you're like, that sign is there because someone did it.

01:35:01.000 Imagine there's a sign on the wall here that said don't take a dump on the floor.

01:35:04.000 Yeah, I got a couple of those in the Navy.

01:35:05.000 Yeah, you'd be like, uh that means someone did it and they had to remind everybody.

01:35:09.000 It's becoming a problem.

01:35:10.000 We have to write this down.

01:35:11.000 Another thing was that we use the word permitted.

01:35:13.000 I'm like, well, why would you have to tell me I'm I'm allowed to do everything?

01:35:16.000 Why would you have to make a sign that says I'm permitted to do that?

01:35:20.000 Basically, I'm I'm a sovereign animal human that can do anything I want.

01:35:23.000 I was like six looking at a sign that said smoking permitted.

01:35:26.000 And I'm like, why would you even tell obviously you can't tell me when it's not allowed.

01:35:30.000 Don't tell me when I'm allowed to do and assume that I can't.

01:35:33.000 When you're infringing upon someone else.

01:35:35.000 It's just a weird way to put a sign up.

01:35:37.000 Like here you can do it.

01:35:38.000 Well, like, duh.

01:35:39.000 I look at it, I look at I look at it like um, you know, like the like the the the like three states of matter in terms of population density.

01:35:49.000 You have a sphere around you that grants that that that affords you certain abilities, and uh that is if you're in the middle of nowhere, your freedom range is massive.

01:36:00.000 You can shoot a gun.

01:36:01.000 You can shoot a gun on a on a on a 2,000 meter range if you have this space around you where you're not going to cause problems and infringe upon people.

01:36:10.000 Then you move into the suburbs and now your range has dropped substantially down to maybe only like 30 or 40 feet.

01:36:16.000 You can't shoot a gun in suburbs unless it's a dedicated range area.

01:36:19.000 Then in cities, you have no freedom range.

01:36:23.000 You are all tightly packed in concrete boxes in a big block that smells like sour milk.

01:36:29.000 And you can't even play the drums.

01:36:31.000 You can't play your guitar too loud because you'd start offending, like you start in encroaching on other people and and their levels of comfort.

01:36:39.000 And so we the rules get tighter and tighter and tighter the closer we live together.

01:36:43.000 What we have in cities is you basically have limited freedom, if any.

01:36:48.000 They don't let you do anything.

01:36:49.000 Leave in the country, you can do whatever you want. 0.97

01:36:51.000 But but however, uh, and and I would just add to that, that cities also afford you the ability that they afford you a lot of benefits from living in a city as well.

01:37:02.000 So there's the convenience of living in the city, there's the communicative ability of living in the city, there's the ability to uh you do have you have culture, you have economy, you have society.

01:37:10.000 This all comes from right at the bottom of your building.

01:37:12.000 The city, right?

01:37:13.000 So uh it it it is the convenience, the accessibility, the speed of our society.

01:37:18.000 Civilization itself comes from the cities.

01:37:21.000 This is my this is my urban right thing that I've been working on where that you you you we wouldn't have any of the things that we have today if we and there are trade-offs to be sure.

01:37:30.000 And what you're describing is these trade-offs and are these trade-offs, but without those, you don't get the advances, and you don't get the so the social society and civic society that we have today.

01:37:39.000 And early on in America, I mean it was it was like frontier.

01:37:42.000 My point is, Ian, if you want to smoke wherever you want, get a boat, go out to the middle of the ocean where you'll bother nobody's gonna be able to do that.

01:37:48.000 So it was a tangent.

01:37:49.000 The reason I I'm bringing up like laws and just brutality in general and order and how to produce order through making evil, you don't always have to do evil to make order, but sometimes it works.

01:37:58.000 Um just called all the generals, uh Pete Haggseth and he were talking to all the generals, and Trump said, Well, hey, maybe we're gonna say maybe he said, We're gonna practice, you guys can practice in Chicago.

01:38:09.000 Like telling the military you're gonna go into Chicago and practice and get ready, I believe it's Chicago.

01:38:14.000 Chicago or Portland.

01:38:15.000 And uh Chicago.

01:38:16.000 Yeah, Chicago.

01:38:17.000 So so he told the troops you're gonna practice your job, which is killing people.

01:38:21.000 That's not correct.

01:38:22.000 Well, the military's main job is destroying the enemy.

01:38:24.000 Uh in Chicago, you're gonna practice that.

01:38:27.000 I I I think I I I challenge that notion quite a bit.

01:38:31.000 Destroying people and infrastructure military does a lot more than destruction, but it is fair to say that they should be effective killing machines.

01:38:37.000 I think they use force.

01:38:37.000 Yeah.

01:38:39.000 They they use force, but I and I I would I would argue that it's fair. 0.60

01:38:43.000 Uh the the military does a lot in terms of domestic support, border support, security.

01:38:47.000 It's not about destroying the enemy, yes, but I don't like that neoliberal, like that that liberal economic order worldview of sending our troops overseas to destroy enemies unseen to the American people.

01:38:59.000 And I don't think it's fair to characterize the military as killing machines or destructive forces when they're trying to protect their home.

01:39:05.000 The best thing you could do is turn your enemy into your friend.

01:39:07.000 The military's job really isn't that, though.

01:39:09.000 That's like the president and the diplomacy aspect of the governments.

01:39:12.000 The military's job is if diplomacy breaks down, they do what they do.

01:39:16.000 And to send to say go into Chicago and train that is like what kind of brutality is he anticipating?

01:39:22.000 Sorry, what you're doing.

01:39:23.000 No, I was gonna say I do I get what you're saying.

01:39:25.000 I I get what he's saying.

01:39:26.000 And and I could sit here and talk about yes, the military has humanitarian assistance and disaster relief, authorities, infrastructure, National Guard.

01:39:32.000 But but I get what you're saying.

01:39:34.000 You're saying that the point of the standing, the main and primary point of having a standing army is their ability to uh wage war, right?

01:39:42.000 Is the war department, right?

01:39:44.000 And my God, I would I don't want to live in a society where we have to talk about sending the military into Chicago.

01:39:52.000 I don't want to live in a society or or Philly or Baltimore or New York or all of these.

01:39:56.000 I don't want any of this, right?

01:39:58.000 And but but we are forced to because the situation has gotten so bad.

01:40:02.000 And we can talk about the great migration, and we could talk about all these things that have happened that have gotten us to this point, but we are facing them, and we are facing them right now.

01:40:10.000 And I've this I've I've always said this is it's funny to me mention that because I always say like this is kind of the difference between you know your your rural conservative and your urban right, whereas like the rural conservative, and we we know that guy, like we love that guy, right?

01:40:21.000 He's he's the you know, he has a pickup truck, he's got a bunch of long guns in there, he's got all that freedom, and he's fighting to conserve that.

01:40:28.000 Whereas the urban right, you know, has already sort of lived with all of these trade-offs their whole life.

01:40:34.000 And so they are fighting for their home that was stolen from them in so many of these cases, and you've seen it in all the great cities of America, and they're in some cases actually quite more reactionary and more radicalized because they've seen it happen before their eyes.

01:40:50.000 So so the issue is, Ian.

01:40:52.000 Well, to finalize that point I was making about the military.

01:40:56.000 When when we send National Guard to places, they're not just killing people.

01:40:59.000 It's it's the military does a lot in support of the interests of the United States beyond just combat, is my my principal point.

01:41:06.000 If they if we were to deploy military to the streets of Chicago or like we did in LA, they're not shooting and killing anybody.

01:41:13.000 That's that's not at all what they were doing.

01:41:15.000 So I guess ultimately, however, the question is for you, Ian would you rather get shot by a gangbanger for literally no reason just because you're a white guy in the wrong neighborhood, or have some National Guardsman on the corner wave at you as you walk past.

01:41:28.000 Oh National Guard.

01:41:30.000 The reality, you know, for me, I know what it's like to walk past National Guard.

01:41:35.000 I was in Ferguson during the riots.

01:41:37.000 They had National Guard stationed like like a two blocks down.

01:41:40.000 We walked over, let's go check out the National Guard.

01:41:41.000 We walked up, hey guys, how's it going?

01:41:43.000 They were like, it's going pretty good.

01:41:44.000 And we were like, what do you guys doing here?

01:41:44.000 How about yourselves?

01:41:46.000 And they're like, we're here in case things kick off, you know.

01:41:48.000 We've been asked to do this.

01:41:48.000 You've seen him in DC now, right?

01:41:50.000 Uh, I haven't I haven't actually interacted or no, it's the same thing.

01:41:53.000 I haven't seen him but same exactly.

01:41:54.000 So so I grew up in Chicago, I walk down the street, my buddy, he I I get mugged, I get a guy who threatens to stab me.

01:42:01.000 These are common occurrence.

01:42:02.000 I watched I got shot at for no reason.

01:42:04.000 And so you ask someone like me, like, hey, the Democrats have controlled Chicago for 100 years.

01:42:09.000 They've never dealt with this problem.

01:42:11.000 If you were to ask me, I'd say, why don't they request help from federal law enforcement to just end all of the gangs?

01:42:18.000 You know, Chicago could write a single letter to Trump, Trump and gangs in Chicago, and he'd say, done.

01:42:25.000 And I and I I'm willing to bet in a couple of months there'd be no more gangs in Chicago.

01:42:28.000 But is that because they would lay waste to like 30,000 people?

01:42:31.000 No, because they'd literally stand on street corners and go, hey.

01:42:33.000 They lay waste to themselves.

01:42:34.000 So they're playing politics.

01:42:36.000 Yeah.

01:42:36.000 Jason, how would Trump respond to Ian?

01:42:40.000 Well Ian, a little uh little hippie like, right?

01:42:43.000 A little hippie say, okay, I have hippie friends, right?

01:42:47.000 Barron hung out with one once, and that was just one time, okay?

01:42:51.000 But uh look, uh we need toughness and we need strength, okay?

01:42:56.000 You know it.

01:42:57.000 I do know it.

01:42:58.000 I believe that it's true, actually.

01:42:59.000 I think that if we don't make a show of force, that it would the creep will continue.

01:43:03.000 Why?

01:43:04.000 Why won't Chicago in over 100 years request federal assistance to end gang violence?

01:43:04.000 Yes.

01:43:12.000 They probably think that the the Marines would come in and kill a thousand people or something.

01:43:16.000 I mean, because they're in on it. 0.99

01:43:17.000 That's ridiculous. 0.97

01:43:17.000 Because they're in on it. 0.97

01:43:18.000 Maybe they're it's because they're in on it.

01:43:20.000 It's because they use these issues to get elected.

01:43:22.000 They create uniparty uh control of the city for a hundred years, and they don't want to clean it up because it's useful to them.

01:43:28.000 And also Trump could go in, and it's very, very simple.

01:43:30.000 How do you stop gang bonds in Chicago?

01:43:32.000 Uh National Guard stands on a street corner.

01:43:34.000 But then they'd have to leave eventually and then the gangs would just come back.

01:43:37.000 No, they wouldn't.

01:43:38.000 You know what Chicago did?

01:43:38.000 Well, eventually.

01:43:39.000 Chicago bulldozed the homes in the black neighborhoods and just scattered the gangs into different suburbs and said, no more gangs in Chicago because they're in Joliet.

01:43:47.000 Don't you think gangs is just a phenomenon of big cities?

01:43:50.000 Gangs a phenomenon of no law enforcement.

01:43:52.000 So a good example is the favelas in Brazil.

01:43:56.000 When the World Cup was coming to Brazil, the government decided to do what they called pacification of the favelas.

01:44:01.000 Because there was no law enforcement, the de facto government was the gangs.

01:44:05.000 In these areas in Chicago, police will not go because they're like, eh, gangs run that.

01:44:10.000 So they don't go there.

01:44:11.000 They don't deal with it.

01:44:12.000 And if they do, they're like, you got to be real careful when you go in these neighborhoods.

01:44:15.000 Chicago cops themselves are deeply corrupt and have been for a very long time operating uh allegedly operating black sites.

01:44:21.000 We had that one cop, I always forget his name, who was electrocuting people into false confessions. 0.88

01:44:26.000 The city is has been it has been mafia democrat gang control for a hundred years.

01:44:31.000 There's another reason why I'm not a default cops are always good no matter what, because I grew up in Chicago.

01:44:36.000 If Trump, Trump wanted to, and I there's political challenges to this.

01:44:41.000 He could end all the gangs in Chicago.

01:44:43.000 It would not be violence, it would not be shootouts.

01:44:45.000 There's actually some gangs that'll be very grateful that he does it.

01:44:48.000 The the the government of Illinois, Pritzker, could say, why why do we have 800 deaths per year in Chicago from gun violence?

01:44:56.000 Well, clearly our law enforcement can't handle it.

01:44:58.000 Mr. President, can you assist us?

01:45:00.000 Trump would say we'll have this taken care of in a few months.

01:45:02.000 Gun violence will be over.

01:45:03.000 In fact, you can like like you mentioned with DC, crime dropped immediately, just because they're walking around.

01:45:08.000 Bukele pre Bukele proved the answer.

01:45:11.000 Brukele ended the argument.

01:45:13.000 Bukele ended the argument completely.

01:45:15.000 He completely debunked 50 or 100 years of Democrat liberal professors and academics and academia and all the rest of it who said, Oh, well, you know, the socioeconomic factors that no.

01:45:26.000 No.

01:45:26.000 No, the worst of the worst, you put them behind bars.

01:45:29.000 How brutal was that?

01:45:30.000 I because it wasn't televised really.

01:45:31.000 Do you know much about I wouldn't have to do it?

01:45:34.000 It was mainly mass arrests.

01:45:36.000 The main, the vast bulk of it was mass arrests.

01:45:39.000 Of people with like uh gang tattoos, known gang affiliations.

01:45:43.000 Yeah, and well, and cartel, too.

01:45:45.000 Like worse than just gangs.

01:45:46.000 There are legitimate and absolute concerns about innocent people getting getting wrapped up in these things or former gang members who have abandoned those lifestyle, but they still have the tattoos and things like that.

01:45:55.000 I respect those concerns.

01:45:57.000 The challenge always is we are not looking at as at a one-for-one.

01:46:01.000 It is not so simple to say today's circumstances are the same as 30 years ago.

01:46:04.000 30 years ago, maybe well, actually, Chicago's had the problem for 100 years, so it need to be cleaned up.

01:46:09.000 But it's one thing 10 years ago to be like, well, we don't want cops to go around and arrest everybody.

01:46:14.000 We need to make sure forces go.

01:46:15.000 Okay, well, they they they shot and killed Charlie Kirk.

01:46:17.000 They killed Aaron Danielson.

01:46:19.000 There have been numerous terror attacks on ice.

01:46:21.000 We've had 30 plus this year.

01:46:23.000 There is a time when you're going here's the example I give.

01:46:26.000 Don't take your garden hose and spray down your your your living room floor, right?

01:46:31.000 Why would you ever do that, Ian?

01:46:32.000 Is there any reason crazy to do something like that?

01:46:34.000 Is there any reason you'd ever grab your garden hose and just start spraying?

01:46:36.000 What if your floor is on fire?

01:46:37.000 If their floor is on fire, yeah, yeah.

01:46:39.000 Or wash the pee off or something.

01:46:41.000 The water damage will be pretty bad, but the fire damage is worse.

01:46:44.000 And I don't want to live in a burning home, but sometimes you spray your house down with water.

01:46:49.000 Hey man, and Ella, you're anti here.

01:46:51.000 Um, I'm gonna raise your bet because also there's a global insurgency inside the United States right now.

01:46:56.000 The world does not like free speech, it's an aberration to the function of the planet.

01:46:59.000 Uh property rights don't make a lot of sense to most of the planet.

01:47:03.000 So they would love to see this country fall over and adopt communist technocracy.

01:47:07.000 And we have to stop that and then redirect the course.

01:47:12.000 We have to protect what this country is and meant to be and go to Super Chats. 0.93

01:47:17.000 So smash the like button, share the show with everyone you know.

01:47:20.000 We uh we are doing the uncensored shows this week just because logistics is very difficult to pull off, but we are gonna read your uh super chats now.

01:47:26.000 So uh again, smash the like button, share everything always.

01:47:30.000 Let's see what we got.

01:47:31.000 Elite oh two K says best case scenario, Netflix complete D-gays the service. 1.00

01:47:37.000 Worst case scenario, they half the price of the service and somewhat de-gay the service. 0.99

01:47:40.000 Win-win situation, to be honest.

01:47:42.000 Well, if they lose all their conservative customers, they're going to double up the game.

01:47:46.000 That that's why it's it's it's a it's a Chinese finger trap problem. 1.00

01:47:50.000 As conservatives boycott, Netflix goes, okay, well, look, we've invested heavily in these programs.

01:47:55.000 Conservatives are leaving.

01:47:56.000 To win them back, we have to lose X amount of dollars.

01:47:58.000 Why don't we just try and increase the price on the liberals and go activists route?

01:48:02.000 So you never know which way it's gonna go.

01:48:03.000 Double edged sword.

01:48:04.000 Shout out to uh Brave Books, Brave Plus, uh, who has a great uh service.

01:48:10.000 If you have kids, you want to check out Brave Books.

01:48:12.000 People know I'm involved with that.

01:48:13.000 Kevin Sorbo, Kirk Cameron.

01:48:15.000 Uh it's just a just a great way.

01:48:16.000 And they've they have other um, if you get the down to get their app, they have other um, you know, lots of just like old like Sonic cartoons and like Red Wall and different things that are just Spector Gadget, just good shows.

01:48:26.000 I love that cartoon.

01:48:27.000 All right.

01:48:28.000 We got Dank Promathia says Pope came out as pro-choice.

01:48:31.000 Is that is that true?

01:48:33.000 Uh no, the the uh no, that's not true, but he there with the Pope had was embroiled in this controversy regarding Senator Dick Durbin, who uh funny enough, actually would have been his senator if he still lived in Chicago, uh, because he's a senator for Illinois, where Dick Durbin was going to receive an uh acknowledgement,

01:48:50.000 the sort of like uh, you know, uh proclamation from a local diocese, the Arch Isaac of Chicago, and uh they asked uh the Pope about it, and they and he he basically said, Well, even though he's a huge abortion supporter, you know, should we do this?

01:49:03.000 And he said, Well, I think we have to look at the totality of of what he stands for, and and uh it wouldn't necessarily be against it and have to look at all that.

01:49:10.000 And so even though uh the Pope basically kind of you know, absolved him of his pro-abortion stance, um Durbin actually did step down and say and did not and uh you know is not gonna be going forward with this uh celebration.

01:49:26.000 Interesting.

01:49:27.000 All right, we got Scribbly Berry says, Luke again, isn't that guy in a list for going to a certain island?

01:49:32.000 That's right.

01:49:34.000 I love when I introduce Luke to people and they're like, oh, nice to meet you all back.

01:49:37.000 He's been Epstein Island. 0.86

01:49:38.000 And I'm like, I wasn't invited.

01:49:39.000 Like I they didn't ask me to go.

01:49:41.000 So we have to we have to find out where the new island is to figure out where Bad Bunny went to.

01:49:45.000 So I'm gonna check the travel.

01:49:47.000 Do you think that Trump was an informant for the FBI?

01:49:49.000 And that's why they won't release it.

01:49:51.000 Uh no, but it Trump did help out some of the victims.

01:49:54.000 Yeah, I think that was a misdeed.

01:49:57.000 But the whole situation now, him calling it a hoax is super weird.

01:50:02.000 All right, let's see.

01:50:03.000 We got uh Leah Wolf the Red, he says, We need the GOP to win in New Mexico too.

01:50:08.000 Dems have ruined my state and preventing oil and gas development, not to mention MLG banning 2A in Bernalillo County.

01:50:17.000 New Mexico is conquered.

01:50:21.000 New Mexico, I mean, there's like I I love Santa Fe.

01:50:24.000 I think Santa Fe is gorgeous.

01:50:26.000 It's actually America's uh either oldest or one of its oldest cities.

01:50:26.000 I think it's beautiful.

01:50:30.000 Um I think it's a great town.

01:50:31.000 I've been there a bunch of times, and uh I've just huge, huge fan.

01:50:35.000 I used my old blog used to have a connection to Santa Fe uh before I was in politics, and uh I love Meow Wolf.

01:50:42.000 I love going to the Jacques Cousteau theater there, and it's just really sad.

01:50:45.000 It's just really really sad.

01:50:46.000 Let's say New Mexico's being held.

01:50:48.000 It's only conquered if the war ends and it's seated.

01:50:51.000 We get retakes our it's occupied.

01:50:53.000 Yeah, but we can we can we can win it back.

01:50:56.000 We get by the way, all of these things can be done with willpower.

01:50:59.000 We can we can we could flip California Red.

01:51:01.000 We could fix, we could fix New Mexico.

01:51:03.000 We could flip New Jersey Red, and by the way, we're going to in four weeks.

01:51:06.000 Uh, we are going to flip New Jersey Red.

01:51:08.000 All it takes is willpower.

01:51:09.000 I think the polls don't matter as much.

01:51:11.000 What the bigger question I have is how much work has ICE done in the district.

01:51:16.000 Maybe IC should go out there on what is it, November 5th?

01:51:21.000 Maybe we should make sure that ICE is out there.

01:51:23.000 I'm just saying, I'm sure I'm saying the voters.

01:51:26.000 And the criminals and the liars and to make sure that no illegals are voting, because obviously that's illegal, right? 0.83

01:51:32.000 So indeed.

01:51:33.000 We're just gonna make sure we're enforcing the law in New Jersey on election day.

01:51:35.000 All right, here's a good one.

01:51:36.000 Mike Ross says, I just came up with a theory.

01:51:38.000 Does changing the name of the Department of Defense to Department of War potentially cancel contract with NGOs or other third-party activist agencies?

01:51:45.000 I hate to tell you the answer is no, but could you imagine like Hag Seth and Trump?

01:51:49.000 They're like, we got all this debt.

01:51:50.000 How do we get out of it?

01:51:51.000 I know, just change your name.

01:51:52.000 Let's try it anyway.

01:51:54.000 That's true.

01:51:55.000 That's not me.

01:51:57.000 Atlantis Lions says the fact that Jimmy Kimmel got his show back is the definition of nothing ever happens.

01:51:57.000 All right.

01:52:02.000 I'm with Mary Morgan on that.

01:52:04.000 We are all Charlie.

01:52:06.000 Amen.

01:52:07.000 I mean, I think the last part proves that things happen and sometimes it's terrifying and not good.

01:52:15.000 All right.

01:52:16.000 Unisole says Captain America is uh the story based on based off Audi Murphy.

01:52:22.000 I mean, maybe there's an inspiration there, obviously.

01:52:25.000 You know the story of Audi Murphy.

01:52:26.000 I do, and uh single-handedly.

01:52:29.000 There's a great Sabaton song about him.

01:52:30.000 Oh yeah.

01:52:32.000 Uh Let's see.

01:52:33.000 Tex Ray says Tom McDonald halftime show.

01:52:36.000 Okay.

01:52:37.000 Yeah.

01:52:38.000 I I gotta tell you, I've gotten a lot.

01:52:42.000 And you know, the there's I can't get into like any of the conversations, but there's been a lot of interest in this Creed show.

01:52:49.000 Bro, I'd be so down.

01:52:50.000 There's been a creepy creed.

01:52:53.000 Everybody loves it.

01:52:54.000 Sell out a stadium, hundred thousand people watching Creed can't speak for everything.

01:52:58.000 Actually, one thing that came up is that, you know, we might not be able to get a stadium because the NFL, right, would not want another stadium to be used to like counterproduct.

01:53:08.000 And the stadium owners might be in a bad position.

01:53:10.000 Okay.

01:53:11.000 So we'd have to do an arena more of a underground.

01:53:13.000 So if you can't we even get arena, we can get an arena.

01:53:16.000 But our arena is what, like 12,000 seats?

01:53:19.000 I mean, it's a range, yeah, something like that.

01:53:22.000 It's gonna be so hot.

01:53:23.000 Okay.

01:53:24.000 Bro, Scott's that's still good.

01:53:26.000 But and and by the way, I would want to set it up so that it's you know, if we're putting on a totally separate event, my thinking would be that we don't because typical halftime shows, what, like a half hour, like max.

01:53:36.000 Like, I would want to do more than 30 minutes of content.

01:53:39.000 So maybe you have like a lineup and then the show and then like a finale be maybe the finale is the halftime show.

01:53:48.000 Maybe maybe we um we have a uh Magic the Gathering tournament with a halftime show that is Creed, right, Ian?

01:53:54.000 That sounds like a actually a very good idea.

01:53:55.000 Yeah, we're just we're just totally there for the great Magic the Gathering halftime show.

01:54:00.000 If we get James to play black, J Vance JD Vance would come and JD Vance would roll everybody in there. 0.99

01:54:08.000 The people on people were asking me it was in the binder.

01:54:11.000 Yes, it was JD Vance's uh third edition gathering binder.

01:54:14.000 He's got he's got a five body.

01:54:16.000 Sure wasn't the Ep Scene files.

01:54:17.000 It sure wasn't that.

01:54:19.000 Still don't have those.

01:54:20.000 Nope.

01:54:22.000 All right, what do we got here?

01:54:24.000 Um Ligma says, Poso is correct.

01:54:28.000 The only band that should play halftime shows from this point out is Creed.

01:54:32.000 It's the American thing to do.

01:54:33.000 Amen.

01:54:33.000 Just forever.

01:54:34.000 Amen.

01:54:35.000 Since it every Super Bowl is just gonna be Creed.

01:54:39.000 All right, what do you got here?

01:54:41.000 When we win.

01:54:43.000 The hat and beard show says meta modern is just the core millennium being forefront in the zeitgeist.

01:54:49.000 We haven't always hate posers.

01:54:51.000 Most left lists are clearly play acting.

01:54:54.000 Well, I I think liberals I don't think they have ideology.

01:54:59.000 I think they say what they have to say to make money.

01:55:00.000 That's why they don't come on shows and debate because it doesn't make them money unless they get paid.

01:55:04.000 Have you noticed when when certain conservative or right-linking podcasts pay people to come on, they just kind of agree with everything.

01:55:04.000 And they get paid.

01:55:11.000 There's certain certain liberal personalities who've been hired or paid to go on shows, and they just go, Oh, you know what?

01:55:15.000 Yeah, I didn't think about it.

01:55:16.000 Like you're right. 0.99

01:55:17.000 A lot of the liberal people I know they're ignorant, and to get humiliated to like learn to get in to show your ignorance on TV is a rough ask. 0.98

01:55:25.000 But if you tell them in private, they're always they'll do it for money. 0.99

01:55:28.000 It's one of their kids.

01:55:30.000 It's a it's a shame fetish.

01:55:31.000 Yes.

01:55:31.000 Yeah.

01:55:33.000 Public shame fetish. 0.88

01:55:34.000 Brushy honey says Snoop Dogg Creed duo.

01:55:37.000 Wow.

01:55:38.000 Snoop Dogg did play Trump's inauguration.

01:55:40.000 He played the crypto ball.

01:55:41.000 And then he apologized for it, didn't he?

01:55:41.000 I was there.

01:55:42.000 Or he backtrack it.

01:55:45.000 I don't recall.

01:55:45.000 I mean, I was there that night.

01:55:46.000 It was a pretty wild performance.

01:55:49.000 He was extremely high when he came out.

01:55:52.000 That's all I'll say.

01:55:54.000 Chronic Seed Chronic Seeds Inc.

01:55:54.000 All right.

01:55:57.000 I wonder what he's up to.

01:55:59.000 Says, what's this doorbell footage of Tyler with a female right after the shooting in the neighborhood?

01:56:03.000 And why did FBI withhold this information?

01:56:06.000 Uh I'd like to take this opportunity to just like make a few points.

01:56:08.000 We did we did a culture war debate on this one.

01:56:10.000 First thing I'll say is I want any and all answers.

01:56:14.000 Who knows?

01:56:14.000 But for the record, same, obviously.

01:56:16.000 Like I said last night.

01:56:17.000 Absence of evidence is not evidence of absence.

01:56:19.000 And it is obvious the FBI is not going to release every bit of information they have, if especially if it could compromise their investigation.

01:56:27.000 So people are asking questions like, why didn't the FBI do this?

01:56:30.000 Why didn't they do that?

01:56:31.000 No, honestly, you'd have to ask cash.

01:56:33.000 But one simple example is when it comes to investigations, confessions, or if they're trying.

01:56:39.000 I'll put it like this.

01:56:40.000 Let's say they're looking for something very specific that they saw in footage.

01:56:44.000 Uh let's say it is a bag of in and out with you know, like a happy face drunk on it.

01:56:51.000 Why won't they put out the footage?

01:56:52.000 Because they don't want people to go out and just start buying a bunch of bags that in and out drawing happy faces on them and then littering the country and taking pictures of them and giving them noise and static.

01:57:00.000 Certain information you want to keep close to the chest so that when you're looking for it, no one can fabricate or manipulate.

01:57:07.000 So uh we deal with this in security where what what we once had a credible threat.

01:57:12.000 I'll just tell you guys.

01:57:14.000 I I probably should, but I'm gonna say it anyway.

01:57:16.000 We had a credible threat, and we were forced to evacuate.

01:57:20.000 Now, often when we get swatted, we didn't have to evacuate.

01:57:22.000 Why?

01:57:23.000 In this instance, someone knew something specific they should not have known.

01:57:28.000 So when we got SWAT, security said, I need to ask you if X is true.

01:57:33.000 Is X true?

01:57:33.000 I said, X is true.

01:57:34.000 Okay, we're evacuating the building, everyone out.

01:57:36.000 How would someone have sentenced a threat known as specific detail?

01:57:40.000 Well, it compromised our security.

01:57:42.000 So there are reasons why the FBI will collect information and not literally release everything in the public because it could compromise the investigation.

01:57:49.000 I am not defending anything the FBI has done.

01:57:51.000 I'm giving you a rational explanation.

01:57:53.000 And there are people saying, like, they should give us this piece of information.

01:57:56.000 I say, well, for all you know, that piece of information could actually help the shooter escape.

01:58:00.000 Uh and I will stress the one thing that's really disconcerting about these conspiracy theories is by all by all means, I'm not gonna tell people not to speculate, ask questions, do that.

01:58:08.000 But I will also stress boy are people drumming up a lot of reasonable doubt for the defense.

01:58:14.000 I have to bring this up.

01:58:15.000 This has been on my mind a lot.

01:58:17.000 When when a tragedy happens, part of the human brain wants to know what caused that, why did that happen, and understand it so that it doesn't happen again.

01:58:23.000 We're better defended against it, but you have to keep moving.

01:58:26.000 If you get distracted by what happened in the past, new avenues of attack open up in front of you in all sorts of ways you don't see coming.

01:58:32.000 But when when when people are hurting and they don't know why, they develop what's called madness, and it is either gonna take you to sadness or anger. 1.00

01:58:40.000 So if you don't feel the sadness and you don't let yourself, it's it's the this this hatred to figure out and to take control of the situation makes people come up with this fucking bullshit. 1.00

01:58:50.000 So lay off. 1.00

01:58:51.000 Let them do their jobs.

01:58:52.000 I appreciate it.

01:58:53.000 Thank you.

01:58:54.000 You know, uh, you know, today's the uh eight-year anniversary of the Las Vegas shooting.

01:59:00.000 Wow.

01:59:02.000 We still have no idea what happened, and they never told us, and I'm upset about that.

01:59:05.000 Yeah.

01:59:06.000 I I'm I'm I'm I'm I want to make sure this is clear.

01:59:08.000 Like, I think journalism is important.

01:59:09.000 I think the I I'll say this with respect to conspiracy theorists is always a smear against people who are actually trying to figure out what's going on.

01:59:17.000 And any good journalist is a conspiracy theorist.

01:59:19.000 That being said, I think a lot of people are milking this for clicks, and they're putting out exaggerated claims, palm gun stuff, and that's just silly.

01:59:29.000 And all and it's like it falls apart really quick.

01:59:32.000 But I see people with there are people who have channels like 10,000 subs and they got like a million views, and so they're gonna keep pushing these things and they're just muddying it, making it difficult for those of us that are trying to figure out what actually happened.

01:59:42.000 Look, I I don't I don't have an issue with anyone who's who's trying to figure out what happened to Charlie, you know, in the sense that if that's really where they're coming from.

01:59:49.000 Agreed.

01:59:50.000 Yeah, and that's and that's and that's the way I look at it.

01:59:52.000 If you're really coming from a place where you've got questions, and who wouldn't, right?

01:59:56.000 I've got questions, so many questions.

01:59:58.000 I I sit up at night asking questions.

02:00:01.000 And at the end of the day, though, if if you are doing that in good faith, then good on you.

02:00:06.000 Like that's what that's what America's all about.

02:00:08.000 I I I can't tell you how many people I've met who go, You you knew Charlie, right?

02:00:12.000 I'm like, yeah, like did it really happen?

02:00:15.000 And I'm like, brother.

02:00:16.000 I get that too.

02:00:17.000 I I was on the I was like the amount of phone calls I got of people screaming and crying when this when this was going down.

02:00:25.000 Yeah, I'm just like, dude.

02:00:27.000 Dude, when Ian Carroll, the day after it happened, said that Israel did it, or the day two days after, I'm like, it was literally day after.

02:00:33.000 This is a form of real deep psychosis that needs to be addressed because you become so vulnerable when you forget what's in front of you, and also it can be used against people.

02:00:44.000 They don't let tragedies go to waste.

02:00:45.000 If you don't let it go, it will get used against you.

02:00:49.000 I I kind of completely stopped talking to a guy because he's like, he didn't actually die.

02:00:54.000 And I'm like, I can't I can't.

02:00:55.000 I just can't.

02:00:56.000 It's like where do you where do you think he's he's at?

02:00:58.000 Honest question.

02:00:59.000 Like we're here in the you know I will say is the weirdest thing, Luke.

02:01:03.000 Did you ever think that you'd be in the conspiracy theory?

02:01:07.000 It's just it's uh it's it's wild to have I I have bumped into people, I have people ask me, legitimately there are people who think Charlie's still alive.

02:01:16.000 And I'm like, bro, I will say this.

02:01:19.000 I walk into this building, I look at these pictures, I look at the people working here, I have I have all the memories.

02:01:25.000 Some days I wake up and my brain is telling me he he this can't have happened.

02:01:29.000 Like, But my view of it is not that there's a deep conspiracy.

02:01:32.000 My view is we have warned about the assassination culture, the violent left.

02:01:36.000 This has been something we it's been underwriter.

02:01:37.000 I've personally dealt with attacks, uh, death threats, security issues.

02:01:42.000 I don't I I I don't even know if I can bring I can't bring up some of these things, but we've had we've had security threats at our at our studio.

02:01:49.000 I feel like fate broke.

02:01:52.000 Like the path we were supposed to be on and the future we were heading toward towards was shattered.

02:01:57.000 So I understand that feeling like you can't believe it, but to bring it to a place where you then push theories or these these I call it denial.

02:02:06.000 The idea that Charlie escaped on a trapdoor is one of these things.

02:02:10.000 I'm like, guys, I I I'd give everything if that were true.

02:02:13.000 I would you could take all my followers, every dollar in my bank account.

02:02:18.000 Take it all.

02:02:19.000 I had one moment for it to be true.

02:02:21.000 I please do.

02:02:23.000 But sorry, I I mean I I think there are there always is going to be conspiracies.

02:02:27.000 I mean, there's always people saying I was a part of some kind of other conspiracy.

02:02:30.000 Because you met Bernanke.

02:02:32.000 That that that we we did a whole bit about this uh back when we were still in my basement.

02:02:32.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:02:38.000 We we were like doing a conspiracy video about me and Ben Bernanke being in on it and and all that.

02:02:43.000 So there's always going to be uh conspiracies, but I I I think there are deranged people that have lost their minds, right?

02:02:48.000 And I I think we should not give those people any attention, but I do believe that there are also some very serious legitimate questions, and the way to beat out those questions is just by asking serious questions and demanding transparency and accountability.

02:03:01.000 I do believe the FBI could have done a way better job.

02:03:04.000 I think there are still some things that they could do better, and I think we need to focus on making sure that this never ever happens again.

02:03:09.000 I think a lot of people genuinely are coming from a good place in their heart who care about Charlie, who love Charlie, who don't who didn't want to see this to happen.

02:03:17.000 There are crazy people.

02:03:18.000 Don't give them any attention. 0.98

02:03:20.000 Don't give the fire any fuel.

02:03:22.000 I agree.

02:03:22.000 I think it's fair to say that there's uh there were individuals posting on social media that indicated a foreknowledge in a larger group of people.

02:03:30.000 Exactly.

02:03:30.000 The FBI is investigating those.

02:03:32.000 And Cash has even tweeted about this.

02:03:35.000 I think it's absolutely fine to ask these questions.

02:03:38.000 And I think it's obvious the FBI has not given us all the information they have, so we don't know just yet.

02:03:43.000 So I'll wrap that up.

02:03:44.000 And also, uh, the community that I run in is a bunch of investigative journalists.

02:03:48.000 So I understand that if you're listening and you have espoused conspiracy theories, I understand that's your programming.

02:03:53.000 That's the way you've worked.

02:03:54.000 I'm not condemning conspiracy theorists or conspiracy theorists because every good journalist is conspiracy theory.

02:03:58.000 I'm saying the people out there, like like you were saying, Jack, who genuinely are trying to figure out what happened and legitimately mean it, whatever ideas they may have, I'm totally okay with and I encourage and by the way, it's the people who are exploiting it.

02:04:09.000 Like if people uncover something, uh a video, a a picture, you know, Candice came up with some actual pictures that she got a lot of information and information that we that hadn't been out before.

02:04:21.000 And and like shout out for that, obviously.

02:04:24.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:04:24.000 And we want as much of that as possible.

02:04:28.000 As much as possible of more direct information on what happened to Charlie.

02:04:34.000 As as much as much flack as she's gotten, um, because the people have been saying that she's insinuating Israel did or whatever.

02:04:40.000 In terms of the actual reporting, she's done one of the best jobs.

02:04:43.000 And but but there are people who are putting out these wacky, like there was one video that's got millions of views, and they were like, Charlie was shot from behind.

02:04:52.000 And then they show a picture of in front of Charlie, and I'm like, guys, you like come on, man.

02:04:52.000 Here's proof.

02:04:56.000 But I we are we are going out, we are going over.

02:05:02.000 We've gone over some.

02:05:04.000 It's also a form of delusion to try and just put it to bed.

02:05:07.000 No, that's also another weird thing for me to have done.

02:05:09.000 So I'm sorry to tell people to stop thinking about it and just let it go.

02:05:12.000 But let's do both.

02:05:13.000 We're over time.

02:05:13.000 Let's wrap it up there.

02:05:15.000 So, you know, it is what it is.

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02:05:24.000 Uh Mr. President, would you like to shout anything out?

02:05:26.000 Sure.

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02:05:48.000 Well, uh uh Jack at Jack Pasobic and uh make if you want to get involved with Turning Point USA, uh you check out TP USA.com if you want to if you want to find a chapter, you can find a chapter.

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02:06:07.000 That will be in December.

02:06:08.000 So lock your tickets in now if you can.

02:06:11.000 Um it's it's gonna sell out.

02:06:13.000 Like it's gonna sell it beyond sell out and the the interest is through the beyond beyond the roof.

02:06:19.000 In fact we we may have to be expanding into like other we're gonna take over all of downtown Phoenix basically.

02:06:24.000 Yeah that we can I don't know what I'm supposed to say or whatever but just the scuttle butt is buy your ticket literally right now.

02:06:30.000 Yeah buy it right now.

02:06:31.000 Yeah no joke no joke.

02:06:33.000 The the past few years have been amazing.

02:06:34.000 James O'Keeffe's parties are nuts and there were already conversations of this being the biggest ever now I'm just gonna I'll just the scuttle button you're gonna very little time left to get tickets.

02:06:46.000 Word of the wise it's gonna sell out like real I I'd love for you to be there and you know is what it is.

02:06:51.000 Don't don't come crying to me if uh you know dude it's we're there's I I'm not you were warned he Jack's right about taking over of downtown it's gonna be the biggest ever and the tickets are gonna sell it really quick.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - October 02, 2025

Netflix Shares TANK, Elon Says BOYCOTT After Writer MOCKS Charlie Kirk Assassination

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