Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - NEW Epstein Emails Drop, Dems Claim TRUMP KNEW, Congress Forces Epstein Release Vote

00:00:49.000 We got a story tonight for you about the Epstein files, about the economy, whether it's good or bad, and whether or not we have talented enough people in the United States to not need to import H-1Bs.

00:00:59.000 I think some of us are a little bit disappointed by what we heard from the Trump administration on that, all that and more.

00:01:04.000 But before we get into it, I have something I really need to mention tonight.

00:01:09.000 It is impossible to maintain your civilization if all of the stories in your civilization are told by people who hate it and want to destroy it.

00:01:16.000 And that's why I started Freedom Tunes 11 years ago because I knew we couldn't win the culture war without producing culture, that we needed to fight back in this landscape.

00:01:25.000 And several weeks ago, I announced Twisted Plots, which is an animated anthology series, which we are going to use to tell good, entertaining, funny stories to push back against the left's dominance on entertainment.

00:01:38.000 They're going to express a right-wing perspective, not through ham-fisted monologues and not through boring preaching, but through good stories and entertaining concepts.

00:01:47.000 Well, tonight, I am humbled, proud, and excited to tell all of you that we have reached 100% in our funding.

00:01:57.000 We have reached our $500,000 goal to produce our first season.

00:02:02.000 Thank you all so much.

00:02:04.000 Any additional funds at this point, we're just going to invest into developing additional content for the show.

00:02:11.000 I want to thank you all so much.

00:02:14.000 The campaign's still going for another day.

00:02:16.000 So if you want the perks or anything like that, you still can.

00:02:18.000 We've still got a bit over a day left, but we've reached our funding goal.

00:02:23.000 We're 100% funded.

00:02:25.000 So God bless you guys.

00:02:27.000 Thank you so much.

00:02:29.000 A lot of prayers have been said.

00:02:31.000 A lot of hard work has gone into this.

00:02:33.000 I'm on the seventh day of Novena to St. Joseph right now.

00:02:36.000 So thank you, St. Mother Teresa, St. Joseph, and St. Jude.

00:02:39.000 And thank you, Sister Cecilia, for praying for this.

00:02:41.000 And thank you to my wonderful wife, who I could not have done this without, and my incredible team.

00:02:46.000 And now we're going to get into it, but I just had to issue that statement.

00:02:48.000 And I had to thank all.

00:02:49.000 And of course, thank you to Tim for giving me this platform to continue to promote it and to allow me to launch from this platform because that was huge.

00:02:57.000 Now, to dive into it, today we have with us Noah Wall.

00:03:01.000 It's great to be on.

00:03:02.000 I'm the president and founder of State Leadership Initiative.

00:03:05.000 And I'm just a guy on a mission trying to make Republican state governance match what the citizens actually vote for every single opportunity.

00:03:14.000 Oh, yeah.

00:03:15.000 You mentioned the NGOs that are behind the scenes.

00:03:17.000 You call it like a shadow government just twisting these Republican states as if they're any other state.

00:03:21.000 Like it's almost irrelevant.

00:03:23.000 It is an incredible thing.

00:03:23.000 It is.

00:03:24.000 And hopefully we get to talk about that tonight.

00:03:26.000 Man, I'm at Ian Crossland here.

00:03:28.000 I'm back from Rice University where I went down there to do a documentary on graphene.

00:03:32.000 It ended up being a wild nanotechnology documentary.

00:03:35.000 I tell you, man, you spend time around scientists at the pioneering edge of reality and you will be white-pilled over and over and over.

00:03:42.000 And if you spend time with politicians, I feel like you tend to get black pilled.

00:03:45.000 So it's important to do both and take the gray one, take the gray.

00:03:49.000 I'm happy to be back.

00:03:50.000 It is a blessing and an honor to be here with you guys.

00:03:52.000 Thank you so much for having me.

00:03:54.000 Dude, I'm so glad to have you back.

00:03:56.000 It's crazy because we used to do the show together like every single night when I was out here.

00:04:00.000 And I know you don't do the show as often.

00:04:02.000 So it's always good when you're here and rebel to chat.

00:04:04.000 Yeah, dude, I feel like you're in my pocket.

00:04:06.000 I feel like I reach in my pocket and I'm like, oh, Seamus.

00:04:08.000 Yeah, yeah, I forgot I was in my pocket.

00:04:10.000 Feels normal.

00:04:11.000 Thanks for having me, Seamus.

00:04:13.000 So glad.

00:04:13.000 Listen, I didn't make the casting decision, but if I did, you would still be here because I would have wanted to see you.

00:04:18.000 You're so nice.

00:04:19.000 Guys, what is going on?

00:04:20.000 It is Brett.

00:04:21.000 Normally, I'm doing Pop Culture Crisis Monday through Friday at 3 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.

00:04:25.000 How are you doing, Phil?

00:04:26.000 My name is Phil Labonte.

00:04:26.000 Hello, everybody.

00:04:27.000 I'm the lead singer of the Heavy Metal Van All That Rains.

00:04:29.000 I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.

00:04:31.000 Let's get into it.

00:04:32.000 All right, let's get into it.

00:04:34.000 Our first story tonight.

00:04:35.000 The Trump administration is from CNN Politics.

00:04:37.000 I've been forgetting to announce the names of the articles, so we're going to make sure that I do that.

00:04:42.000 All right, yeah.

00:04:43.000 But you guys can all see him if you're watching.

00:04:45.000 I'm not plagiarizing.

00:04:46.000 I'm not pretending I made this story up.

00:04:48.000 Trump administration holds a situation room meeting over a House effort to force release of all of DOJ's Epstein files.

00:04:56.000 The top Trump, excuse me, top Trump administration officials met Wednesday with a key GOP lawmaker about an effort in the U.S. House to force a vote on releasing Justice Department case files related to Jeffrey Epstein, according to multiple sources familiar with the meeting.

00:05:11.000 White House Press Secretary Karen Leavitt acknowledged that meeting later Wednesday when asked about reporting that administration officials were huddling up with GOP rep Lord Boebert.

00:05:22.000 Doesn't that show the level of transparency when we are willing to sit down with members of Congress and address their concerns?

00:05:29.000 She told reporters at press briefings.

00:05:30.000 Maybe not enough transparency.

00:05:33.000 Maybe not the exact kind of transparency we've all been looking for.

00:05:37.000 I'm going to turn it over to the rest of the panel.

00:05:39.000 How do you guys feel about this?

00:05:40.000 Is this what we voted for?

00:05:43.000 Well, I'll start off and tell you that that headline is the type of thing that we always find out three months later, never actually happened.

00:05:50.000 Fair enough.

00:05:52.000 So I'll just throw that bone in Trump's way.

00:05:55.000 And what reference?

00:05:56.000 Oh, just, you know, situation room meeting on Epstein.

00:06:00.000 I mean, sounds like maybe there's a situation room meeting where Epstein's name got mentioned, but that's usually the type of thing that, you know, did they actually, okay, guys, let's go talk about this right now in the situation room.

00:06:12.000 Mike got up.

00:06:13.000 I've got a steelman the situation, right?

00:06:15.000 For a steel man.

00:06:16.000 I would hope that the meeting where Epstein was discussed was the administration saying, okay, we need to get all of the information we have out there, get in front of this, because that's what an adult and responsible administration would do.

00:06:32.000 Because as long as there are questions, and there have been questions since before he took the oath of office in his second term, as long as there are questions, there are going to be people that are going to say, this is bad, blah, blah, blah.

00:06:44.000 This is going on.

00:06:45.000 And Trump's, there's all sorts of accusations being thrown around.

00:06:48.000 The only option the administration has is getting as much information out as exists.

00:06:54.000 There can be no more redactions.

00:06:56.000 There can be no more, no more trying to tell people that the topic doesn't matter.

00:07:01.000 There can be no more of that.

00:07:03.000 He has to release all of the information.

00:07:05.000 And again, this is just a steel man.

00:07:07.000 Hopefully, that's what they were talking about.

00:07:09.000 If not, this is going to continue to haunt him and people are going to continue to make accusations.

00:07:15.000 And at this point, honestly, it is kind of a situation where because they've taken so long and because they've tried to deflect and stuff, there are people out there that are never going to believe whatever comes out.

00:07:28.000 When they say, okay, all of the information.

00:07:30.000 So say all of the information, just for sake of argument, say all the information is put out, there will be a group of people that are going to say, there's more because there's no, if they don't hear what they want to hear, they're going to say, he didn't release it all.

00:07:42.000 There's blah, blah, this is blah, blah, blah.

00:07:43.000 And it's going to haunt him the rest of his presidency.

00:07:47.000 That's the nature of these types of political attacks now in a lot of ways, not an attack on him, but in general, when it comes to information needing to be released and there's a hesitancy to do so, what you'll find is that most people in these spaces, they're waiting until they hear the exact thing that they want to hear about that topic.

00:08:05.000 And if they don't do it, they're just going to keep saying that you're putting it off.

00:08:08.000 But we've had so much corruption in government for so long.

00:08:12.000 It's like when people talk about not trusting the media anymore.

00:08:14.000 There are times that the media actually tells you the truth, but nobody wants to believe it anymore because they've lied so many times.

00:08:20.000 It's like you could have gone six months without hearing a lie.

00:08:24.000 And then you see that thing on the BBC about lying about Trump in a documentary.

00:08:27.000 And you're like, you're just doing it all over again.

00:08:29.000 You can't stop yourselves.

00:08:30.000 You can't help yourselves.

00:08:31.000 And there's no way for the media to regain their credibility.

00:08:34.000 And it's fast becoming true that Trump is losing any chance he has of returning his credibility with issues like this.

00:08:41.000 And that's not even to say, like they were saying, they leaked, like Democrats leaked like, what, three pages, right?

00:08:45.000 And they crossed out Virginia Guffery's name or whatever.

00:08:49.000 And so the whole point was to tie him to it without actually putting the name out there.

00:08:55.000 If they actually wanted transparency, they wouldn't have blacked out the name at all, but they knew it didn't fit their narrative.

00:08:59.000 It's just lying all around because that's what politicians do.

00:09:02.000 And by lying, I mean half-truths, which is the worst type.

00:09:05.000 Yeah.

00:09:06.000 So was I hallucinating earlier or was there a story circulating about Trump calling the Epstein files a hoax?

00:09:12.000 Or was he saying that what is being claimed about his involvement is a hoax?

00:09:16.000 Well, that depends on who you ask.

00:09:18.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:09:18.000 It depends on what their opinion is on him.

00:09:20.000 Yeah.

00:09:22.000 If you ask people that are aligned with Trump, they're going to say that it wasn't, that Trump wasn't saying the Epstein files themselves are a hoax.

00:09:28.000 It's the way that the Democrats are framing it that's a hoax if you are a hoax.

00:09:32.000 If you ask Democrats, they're going to say that Trump is saying that the whole thing is a hoax and he's trying to lie to you.

00:09:37.000 So it all depends on who you ask and what's convenient for the argument that they're trying to make.

00:09:41.000 Yeah, well, and so this is just me musing, as they say.

00:09:46.000 But why wouldn't Trump just say that these files were destroyed by the last administration and there's no way we can release?

00:09:56.000 Because this is one argument you're hearing from a lot of people.

00:09:58.000 Well, the reason Trump doesn't have the files is because they're destroyed.

00:10:01.000 I'm sympathetic to that.

00:10:02.000 I think that's probably true.

00:10:03.000 But then why wouldn't he just say that?

00:10:05.000 This confuses me.

00:10:07.000 Meaning that you think that it would just come across as a, like I said earlier, if people don't hear what they want to hear, they're going to assume that he's lying.

00:10:12.000 So if he says they don't exist anymore, people are going to be like, the government redundancy, that doesn't sound plausible to me.

00:10:18.000 And if they're not destroyed, that's an easy one to disprove.

00:10:21.000 And if he gets caught with his pants down, oh, so you think it's possible that they actually weren't destroyed?

00:10:26.000 Okay, that's I think they were backed up and given to people and are being used as blackmail right now by Trump's administration and others to go after the deep state and prevent them from killing him, basically.

00:10:35.000 It's not the 60s.

00:10:36.000 Yeah, it's not the 60s anymore.

00:10:38.000 Like destroying is not destroying something is not putting the files themselves through a shredder.

00:10:44.000 If they existed, then there are still files on computers somewhere.

00:10:49.000 The idea that they can destroy them totally nowadays, I really don't think that it's that.

00:10:56.000 I don't think that's realistic.

00:10:57.000 I think you're right that it would be nearly impossible to completely get rid of the files, especially with the interest that people have in them.

00:11:03.000 But I do think it would be possible for them to make the files inaccessible to the administration.

00:11:08.000 Oh, he had that meeting with Gheelane.

00:11:08.000 That I could believe.

00:11:10.000 Sorry, Bob.

00:11:10.000 Yeah, go ahead.

00:11:11.000 Well, he met up with Gheelane Trump, or somebody did, about six months ago at this point.

00:11:15.000 And they, after a conversation, they moved Gheelane to a minimum security prison.

00:11:18.000 And she was like the ringleader of this Epstein operation.

00:11:20.000 They moved her to a minimum security.

00:11:22.000 And then a couple weeks later, they let some time go by.

00:11:24.000 And then she said, Trump did nothing untoward.

00:11:26.000 So maybe in that meeting.

00:11:29.000 Wait, let me say this last thing.

00:11:30.000 Maybe in that meeting, they got the keys from Gheelane, the final piece to unlock the files so that they have them.

00:11:34.000 And that's her reward as they put her in minimum security.

00:11:37.000 Virginia Guthrie said the same thing that Ghylaine said.

00:11:39.000 Virginia Guthrie said that Trump had never done anything untoward.

00:11:41.000 And there's also.

00:11:42.000 Which is why they blacked out her name in the file release.

00:11:44.000 Exactly.

00:11:45.000 And also there was, I forget, I heard it today, someone talking about the, I think it was on the morning meeting, Mark Halperin was talking about it, that the argument that Trump made, or Epstein said that he spoke to Ghillain, Trump spoke to Ghillain, and knew about the young girls.

00:12:02.000 And Trump told Ghillain, you guys have to stop this.

00:12:05.000 Yes, that did come out in the files today.

00:12:07.000 And it's one of those things.

00:12:08.000 The interesting part about this is we hear, whenever we hear something new, it usually does not transpire that it was Trump actually doing anything untoward, which is what makes the whole like, why not release such a puzzle.

00:12:23.000 Because like, again, like these files today were clearly timed by the Democrats.

00:12:27.000 The release was set up to, you know, to impact this vote that the House is going to take, put, you know, how they're going to handle the release of the files.

00:12:36.000 And in these files, Trump is like telling Ghillain, like, hey, you need to not do this.

00:12:41.000 Yeah, one thing, he might have been working with the FBI.

00:12:43.000 This has come up before in thought experiments is that he was actually turning these dudes into the FBI and like sided with them.

00:12:49.000 You heard, yeah, that he was like a secret agent man.

00:12:51.000 Yeah, and if he publicly came out with that now, how would that look?

00:12:55.000 And just as a matter of framing, all it takes is a headline that says Trump is in the files.

00:13:00.000 It doesn't matter what is actually, you know, in the actual documents themselves because it ties it to him as guilt by association for people that don't want to look deeper into whatever they're doing.

00:13:08.000 And he's already at a disadvantage right now because he's pissed off his base to cuss right there.

00:13:14.000 But he's like, with the H-1B stuff and the students from China, he's angering a lot of the people that would at least usually go to bat with a reasonable argument to the contrary for whatever people are coming at him with.

00:13:25.000 Yeah, so and the idea that he is is Trump, that he is in the files.

00:13:30.000 Again, this is something that what that means is going to depend on who you're talking to.

00:13:35.000 If you're talking to someone in Trump world, in the files means that he's referenced, he's talked about in the files, et cetera.

00:13:41.000 If you're talking to someone that doesn't like Donald Trump, in the files means he was videotaped having sex with a six-year-old is what they're going to say.

00:13:48.000 If he was secret agent man and he worked with the FBI and started turning in these dudes that were trafficking 13, 14 year old girls, and he came out and told everyone that, I feel like that would make him a superhero in the minds of most humans.

00:14:01.000 Maybe the people that he's not going to be able to do that.

00:14:02.000 Most normal people, yeah, if that were true.

00:14:04.000 But then maybe the businessmen that he had turned in or gave information on would turn on him.

00:14:08.000 Maybe they're some of his supporters.

00:14:10.000 I don't know.

00:14:10.000 The media would still find a bad way to spend that.

00:14:13.000 Yep.

00:14:13.000 If that were to have happened, which I'm not saying to me, that, listen, I would love if that were true.

00:14:20.000 I would love if that was the case, that he was secret agent man and he was turning these people.

00:14:23.000 That would be one of the most incredible stories ever.

00:14:25.000 I would absolutely love it.

00:14:27.000 I'm saying I'd have to see some evidence for that.

00:14:29.000 I would need to see some evidence.

00:14:30.000 It would.

00:14:31.000 That is something I want to have happened.

00:14:33.000 That's something that I want to be the case genuinely.

00:14:35.000 But that's also why I got to say, show me some evidence.

00:14:37.000 I just can't buy into it because it would be convenient based on my worldview.

00:14:42.000 I hope he sees this show and he's like, I was secret agent, man.

00:14:46.000 I did it.

00:14:47.000 I had a little, my watch fired a laser.

00:14:49.000 It was W8, not W7.

00:14:51.000 What else could it be that they're not, that they're, I mean, it sounds like he's lying, that he's just blatantly, or he's like trying to evaporate this thing that's obviously there.

00:14:59.000 My gut instinct from all of the information that I have is that Trump is in the files as in like he's talked about because he was friends with Epstein and Trump is running from Epstein and has been.

00:15:11.000 And that's why he's saying, no, we were not friends.

00:15:14.000 Who is he?

00:15:14.000 Blah, blah, blah.

00:15:15.000 We had a falling out.

00:15:16.000 I used to be friends with him.

00:15:17.000 He's made all of these, all of these statements to distance himself because he's referenced in the files and he knows that it looks bad.

00:15:24.000 It doesn't matter that he's, or it would not matter that he didn't do anything.

00:15:30.000 The point that he has is I don't want to be associated with it because I know it's bad.

00:15:34.000 But because he's done all this denial, it's only made it worse.

00:15:38.000 Yeah, I get what you're saying.

00:15:39.000 There's also part of me that thinks that if he was in the files, we would have known by now.

00:15:42.000 I mean, they looked into him so deeply.

00:15:45.000 They investigated him so thoroughly.

00:15:47.000 He's the most investigated.

00:15:49.000 Exactly.

00:15:50.000 I mean, if they could have got him on that, they would have got him on that.

00:15:54.000 Instead of some trumped up real estate nonsense.

00:15:56.000 Well, no, that's exactly right.

00:15:57.000 I mean, they spent, I mean, you know, we may talk about Arctic Frost later, but they spent like thousands of agent man hours finding, unturning every single rock, you know, in every possible jurisdiction to get this guy on something.

00:16:12.000 The idea that they would have this information and not use it is insane.

00:16:16.000 The craziest version of the story is they get into the files and somehow they find out that he actually did lie in his taxes.

00:16:23.000 He did lie to him.

00:16:25.000 Right?

00:16:25.000 I know, I know.

00:16:26.000 You know, he told, he direct came right out and said that he told Hillary.

00:16:29.000 Don't they say he kicked Epstein and he banned him from Mar-a-Lago?

00:16:31.000 Yeah, that's what I know from what I've heard is that Epstein, like Trump has these like young, you know, 16, 17, 18-year-old women working at Mar-a-Lago, you know, hot waitresses or whatever.

00:16:40.000 And then Epstein comes down there and mooch takes a bunch of them to go be his models.

00:16:44.000 And then Trump was pissed.

00:16:45.000 And then that was when their falling out happened.

00:16:47.000 Wouldn't surprise me then if he was like, I'm going all out on this guy.

00:16:50.000 I'm getting him busted.

00:16:51.000 I'm going to take him to court or take him to the FBI.

00:16:53.000 It's kind of a masterclass in not handling a story about your political career well, given the fact that he was able to avoid this in 2016 and 2020.

00:17:02.000 And it just doesn't seem, it seems like he's taken every wrong step when it comes to handling the situation.

00:17:08.000 And it's confirmation bias for the people that don't like him.

00:17:10.000 If anybody's seen the tweet from somebody'll quote tweet Stephen King when he said the Epstein files are fake and now he's saying release the Epstein files.

00:17:18.000 Like that's what you're dealing with.

00:17:19.000 But you're never going to convince those people anyway.

00:17:22.000 I think he described the Epstein files in his book, It.

00:17:25.000 Yeah, Stephen King's a freaky guy.

00:17:27.000 Like for him to sit there and anyway.

00:17:30.000 My point is, I don't want to hear Stephen King moralize about anything.

00:17:33.000 But yeah, I agree with you.

00:17:35.000 I have no idea why he's saying the things he's saying or taking the tone that he's taking.

00:17:39.000 Again, I don't think he's in the files, but that's also why this is so perplexing to me.

00:17:42.000 And it's not like I just don't think he's in the files because I love him so much and I couldn't believe it.

00:17:47.000 It's because we would have known by now.

00:17:49.000 They would have told us.

00:17:50.000 It doesn't make sense.

00:17:51.000 None of this makes sense.

00:17:52.000 That was like my point.

00:17:53.000 It came up earlier because we were talking about Jimmy Kimmel talking about Trump and all of these things.

00:17:58.000 I said, the reason why nobody takes you seriously is because you've never had a nuanced opinion on the man in any way, shape, or form.

00:18:04.000 And I pulled up Clint Russell's tweet about the stuff that Trump has failed with recently.

00:18:10.000 I said, if you're trying to tell me that I should take my opinions on Trump from empty suit liberals in Hollywood or somebody who was at least willing to hear him out in the past, had good things to say about him at one time and now is saying you're chalking up loss after loss after loss.

00:18:25.000 I'm going to take that guy's opinion with a lot more certainty than I am anybody from Hollywood.

00:18:30.000 But the people Trump is playing to is that he's still expecting to win over people that he used to run with.

00:18:36.000 Well, I also heard the argument made when this initially reared its ugly head when Trump got elected and first really disappointed us on this issue.

00:18:45.000 I heard people saying, well, maybe it's the case that too many powerful people were involved and society would collapse.

00:18:52.000 Now, in my mind, if your society is going to collapse when pedophiles go to jail, your society should probably collapse.

00:18:57.000 Right.

00:18:58.000 What is the argument?

00:18:59.000 Is the argument that like, what, they're the heads of every company, like there isn't some second in command that's going to just take over the company when that guy eventually goes down?

00:19:06.000 Yeah.

00:19:07.000 Well, that's why we need all the H-1Bs, Brett.

00:19:07.000 Yeah.

00:19:09.000 Exactly.

00:19:09.000 Yes.

00:19:10.000 There are just no competent Americans who aren't on the Epstein list.

00:19:13.000 And then actually wants to bring all the H-1Bs in.

00:19:15.000 We're actually bringing them in to be CEOs.

00:19:18.000 We're actually bringing them in to be CEOs, not programmers.

00:19:21.000 Tabula Rossa.

00:19:22.000 Well, we have this article here from KCRA 3.

00:19:26.000 Speaker Johnson says House will vote next week on whether to release the Epstein files.

00:19:31.000 Speaker Mike Johnson announced to reporters on Wednesday that he will put a bill compelling the Department of Justice to release all of its Jeffrey Epstein case files on the House floor next week earlier than expected.

00:19:41.000 We're going to put that on the floor for a full vote when we get back next week, Johnson said.

00:19:46.000 In the meantime, I'll remind everyone that the House Oversight Committee has been working around the clock on its own investigation, the speaker said.

00:19:53.000 Johnson is required to put the bill from Democratic rep RoCana and GOP Representative Thomas Massey on the floor soon.

00:20:01.000 Now that their discharge petition has reached 218 signatures, but he has some leeway to do so.

00:20:08.000 And Johnson suggested Wednesday he would not use that extra time.

00:20:12.000 The story's breaking and will be updated.

00:20:13.000 What do you all think?

00:20:14.000 The idea that there would be anyone at all that would vote no is just gut-wrenching to me.

00:20:21.000 There is no justification for voting no to not release.

00:20:25.000 Because at the very least, because this does nothing good for Donald Trump, and it does nothing good for conservatives and Republicans.

00:20:33.000 If Donald Trump has done something illegal or has done something wrong, better for the Republicans to put that out.

00:20:41.000 Get Trump out of office, have JD Vance finish out the term and put this behind us.

00:20:49.000 Because I don't care how many people like Donald Trump.

00:20:53.000 I don't care how many people hate Donald Trump.

00:20:56.000 The fact of the matter is, the Republicans overall are going to be better than the Democrats.

00:21:02.000 And so if Donald Trump is causing problems, get him out.

00:21:06.000 Get him out of the way.

00:21:06.000 Put JD Vance in.

00:21:07.000 JD Vance will be a perfectly fine president.

00:21:09.000 I know that he wouldn't be able to run for two more terms.

00:21:13.000 He'd only be able to run for another one.

00:21:14.000 That's fine.

00:21:15.000 But if Donald Trump has done something illegal, then get him out because it's only causing problems for the United States.

00:21:21.000 And again, like I said, I don't think he's in the files based on the reasons we discussed earlier, but it wouldn't even matter.

00:21:27.000 If he is, or if there's something that's trying to be covered up, the whole Republican Party should not let itself go down over this.

00:21:32.000 That's insane.

00:21:33.000 It's an absolute strategy.

00:21:34.000 And obviously, if the Democrats were voting for it and they voted against it, which again, I think you're going to have people from both parties who will vote against releasing the files because of how ugly the unit party is.

00:21:45.000 But it's horrifying.

00:21:46.000 And what's so horrifying about it is not just the reasons you mentioned, Phil, but also the fact that they know on some level that they could do that and still get re-elected.

00:21:55.000 That's the really scary part.

00:21:57.000 So the insane thing is the House has been basically out of session since the shutdown started.

00:22:04.000 Why?

00:22:05.000 This bill.

00:22:07.000 They have been out of session because they have not, they didn't want to swear in the new guy because once they start back up, that's why they had to force the vote on this.

00:22:15.000 It's an absolutely insane situation.

00:22:17.000 The Epstein stuff?

00:22:18.000 Yes.

00:22:20.000 They're gridlocked over the Epstein stuff, and that's what stopped them from re-that's not that's not why the government shut down.

00:22:26.000 They have used the government shutdown as an excuse.

00:22:29.000 I think it's a convenient excuse, yeah.

00:22:31.000 Because when they reconvene, they have to take this up because it's a privilege motion.

00:22:36.000 You know, I guess I'll take a devil's advocate here.

00:22:39.000 I'm not a Satanist, I promise you that.

00:22:42.000 Thinking about using evil to establish order and power to make a better world.

00:22:47.000 Like, if this is the one ring, this information, it's so powerful.

00:22:51.000 They're like, we need to release the files, which is like, destroy the one ring.

00:22:54.000 It must be cast into Mount Doom.

00:22:55.000 It's a Lord of the Rings reference.

00:22:58.000 We know it's a Lord of the Rings reference.

00:23:00.000 You might know.

00:23:01.000 But then the guy's like, no, I'm going to use the ring to destroy Sauron.

00:23:04.000 And they've got this powerful blackmail.

00:23:06.000 If they're blackmailing like the Saudi princes and the royal family of England and the Israeli government, if they have this control over foreign people diplomatically because of this tech, this technology or this info, and they were just to give that all up.

00:23:19.000 So just to push back on that, I don't think Saudi princes would care, right?

00:23:23.000 Their royalty in Saudi Arabia.

00:23:26.000 They're buying up half of America anyway.

00:23:28.000 Their culture is totally different.

00:23:29.000 So they wouldn't have the same repercussions as the United States.

00:23:33.000 And then as for the royal family in England, was it Philip?

00:23:39.000 Is the guy that got his all over?

00:23:41.000 Andrews.

00:23:42.000 Andrew's got all of his titles stripped and everything, and he's still feeling the heat currently.

00:23:47.000 So I imagine this is something that he's the royal that was involved with this.

00:23:53.000 If I understand correctly, there are no other royals that we know of.

00:23:58.000 If there were in the files, I imagine they would have come out.

00:24:01.000 But again, I'm not saying for sure, but I just don't think that I don't think that the idea that it's to protect powerful people is compelling.

00:24:10.000 No, it's to have power over the powerful people.

00:24:14.000 Yeah, you're saying it's a blackmail operation, basically.

00:24:16.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:24:17.000 So, but I don't think that I don't, I don't think that it's a blackmail operation, personally.

00:24:21.000 It's impossible to know.

00:24:22.000 I don't think it is.

00:24:23.000 I'm just wondering if that's why it seems like they're holding data and they're pretending like it doesn't exist.

00:24:29.000 I think it's all about Donald Trump doesn't want it to come out because he doesn't want his name associated with it.

00:24:33.000 You think it's purely Trump's ego in this one?

00:24:35.000 Yeah, I think so.

00:24:36.000 Trump has got a big ego.

00:24:38.000 Well, Democrats are doing everything to associate his name with it.

00:24:40.000 From Newsweek, we have Jeffrey Epstein emails Trump named in new emails released by House Democrats live updates.

00:24:47.000 Democrats on the House Oversight Committee have released a second tranche of emails on Wednesday, including communications between Jeffrey Epstein, Steve Bannon, and former Treasury Secretary Larry Summers.

00:24:57.000 The explosive emails raise a fresh question over what U.S. President Trump knew about Epstein's sexual misconduct.

00:25:03.000 The first series of emails released earlier this morning included communications showing Epstein calling Trump the quote dog that hasn't barked unquote.

00:25:11.000 Very rude.

00:25:12.000 And that the president has asked Epstein to resign his membership at the Mar-a-Lago Club.

00:25:16.000 One email sent by Epstein said, of course, Trump knew about the girls because he asked Elaine Maxwell to stop.

00:25:22.000 I don't like how much of this is broken up by the quotes.

00:25:25.000 And I'm also a little confused about the narrative here.

00:25:27.000 They're saying that Trump, they're saying that Trump knew and wanted them to stop and kicked Epstein out of his club.

00:25:34.000 So the whole point is it's media framing.

00:25:38.000 You use the most innocuous headline that uses Epstein, Trump, and files in one article title.

00:25:44.000 And you have convinced a bunch of midwits, you know, I'm a midwit, but different midwits, what to believe because they're not going to get past the headline.

00:25:52.000 This is why people hate the media now.

00:25:54.000 Yeah, this is.

00:25:54.000 One of the other reasons, yeah.

00:25:56.000 Thank you.

00:25:56.000 One of the many reasons.

00:25:57.000 You're better than your average midwip, by the way.

00:25:58.000 Thank you.

00:25:59.000 I appreciate that.

00:26:00.000 I'm like Tate, 85 IQ.

00:26:02.000 Like Midwip plus plus plus.

00:26:03.000 Well, this is part of what's confusing about this.

00:26:05.000 Like I've said, he's been extremely investigated.

00:26:07.000 We've also, there have been so many phony scandals surrounding him.

00:26:09.000 They've tried everything that they can to incriminate him or smear his name.

00:26:13.000 So I'm very hesitant.

00:26:15.000 He's just believing himself.

00:26:16.000 That's the problem.

00:26:16.000 It's him talking.

00:26:17.000 He could have said nothing.

00:26:19.000 It's his wallet or the floor.

00:26:19.000 No, I agree.

00:26:21.000 The things that bother me are the things that he says.

00:26:24.000 It's not, but whenever these accusations are made by the media, I'm like, I don't know what that means.

00:26:29.000 And the response, the absolute weariness that everybody has to this type of stuff is kind of an indictment of just how much stuff has been said about him over the last 12 to 10 to 12 years.

00:26:40.000 And people just, they don't have the bandwidth to take you at your word anymore.

00:26:44.000 If maybe you had, you know, the first time it was the, what was it, the Russian hookers, right?

00:26:49.000 Like, if maybe you gotten it right the first time or before, the steel dossier or any of this stuff, maybe more people would be willing to take you seriously.

00:26:57.000 But now you have to just beat everybody over the head with it.

00:26:59.000 And all you had to do was do a more honest title to this article, but it wouldn't sell copy.

00:27:05.000 Well, that's exactly right.

00:27:07.000 And so ultimately, they've cried Wolf many, many times.

00:27:10.000 And if this time it turns out there was a Wolf, no one's going to believe him, and it's going to be their fault.

00:27:15.000 People have picked their sides anyways.

00:27:17.000 So, I mean, that's what I like about people on the right who are calling this stuff out now, who may have voted for him in 2024 and saying, look, he's screwing up on a lot of things.

00:27:25.000 If he's bad, get him out of office.

00:27:27.000 And I appreciate, you know, don't subscribe to a party and don't subscribe to, especially to any one person, be it a politician or anybody else, because you should not hold anybody in that level of esteem, especially if they have power over you.

00:27:40.000 Just hold his feet to the fire, and if he's in the files, then get him out of there.

00:27:44.000 Any other thoughts from anyone here?

00:27:47.000 No, not really on that story.

00:27:49.000 Well, let's talk about our next story.

00:27:51.000 Trump says H-1B visas are needed because of the lack of U.S. talent.

00:27:55.000 I was told America's got talent, but I guess that's not the case.

00:27:58.000 President Donald Trump ignited a wave of MAGA criticism in defending the use of the H-1B visa program, telling a reviewer in the United States.

00:28:07.000 By the way, I disagree with him with the clips hilarious, telling an interview with the United States needs to bring in talent and pushing back on the idea that the country already has enough talented workers.

00:28:17.000 Fox News host Laura Ingram questioned Trump on H-1B visas this week, saying they hurt wages for American workers.

00:28:24.000 I agree with you, but I agree, but you do also have to bring in talent, Trump said when Ingram countered that we have plenty of talent.

00:28:33.000 Trump responded, No, you don't.

00:28:36.000 It's brutal.

00:28:37.000 But then he followed up and he said, You don't have certain talents.

00:28:40.000 So I think this is Trump being blunt, but ultimately, I don't think that that was a great thing for him to say.

00:28:48.000 He's like, Look, we're going to make America great again, but we're just going to have to start elsewhere.

00:28:53.000 Yeah, yeah, exactly.

00:28:54.000 Literally the worst thing he could have said.

00:28:56.000 Well, let me play this clip of him real quick.

00:28:59.000 Republicans have to talk about it like that.

00:29:01.000 And does that mean the H-1B visa thing will not be a big priority for your administration?

00:29:06.000 Because if you want to raise wages for American workers, you can't flood the country with tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of foreign workers.

00:29:13.000 We also do have to bring in talent when the country.

00:29:16.000 We have plenty of talent and they're not.

00:29:17.000 No, you don't.

00:29:18.000 We don't have talented people in there.

00:29:19.000 No, you don't have certain talents, and people have to learn.

00:29:23.000 You can't take people off an unemployment, like an unemployment line, and say, I'm going to put you into a factory where we're going to make missiles, or I'm going to put you in the middle of the market.

00:29:30.000 How did we ever do it before?

00:29:32.000 When you and I were in the middle of the day, I'll give you an example.

00:29:32.000 Well, let me tell you.

00:29:34.000 In Georgia, we brought in the Nazi scientists.

00:29:37.000 Because they wanted illegal immigrants out.

00:29:40.000 They had people from South Korea that made batteries all their lives.

00:29:44.000 You know, making batteries are very complicated.

00:29:46.000 It's not an easy thing.

00:29:47.000 It's very dangerous.

00:29:48.000 A lot of explosions, a lot of problems.

00:29:50.000 They had like 500 or 600 people, early stages, to make batteries and to teach people how to do it.

00:29:58.000 Well, they wanted them to get out of the country.

00:30:00.000 You're going to need that, Laura.

00:30:01.000 I mean, I know you and I disagree on this.

00:30:03.000 You can't just say a country's coming in, going to invest $10 billion to build a plant and going to take people off an unemployment line who haven't worked in five years, and they're going to start making missiles.

00:30:15.000 It doesn't work that way.

00:30:16.000 All right.

00:30:17.000 So there's a couple issues here.

00:30:19.000 Firstly, the way the H-1B issue is always framed is that we just don't have the proper talent in the United States and American workers aren't competent enough to fulfill certain duties and fill certain positions.

00:30:29.000 Here's the problem with that.

00:30:31.000 You could potentially make the argument that when you are dealing with once-in-a-generation brilliance, which yes, certain very exclusive, high-level jobs do require, that maybe in some circumstances, you might have to start hunting in other countries because the United States just doesn't have anyone who fits the requirements of this very important position.

00:30:53.000 There's a conversation there.

00:30:55.000 That is not how H-1B visas are used the vast majority of the time.

00:30:59.000 You look at these H-1B listings and they've got people driving trucks on H-1Bs who don't even speak English and they're like running their bot farm and cooking at the same time as they're behind the wheel, like running over families in their minivans.

00:31:15.000 The whole argument is ridiculous.

00:31:17.000 We can't allow them to frame it this way.

00:31:19.000 It is obvious that the purpose of H-1B visas is a handout to companies that make billions of dollars annually off of high-skilled workers, but don't want to pay them high-skilled wages.

00:31:30.000 He's a CEO at heart.

00:31:31.000 Like he really is.

00:31:32.000 And we kind of get into this a lot of times.

00:31:34.000 You think about it.

00:31:36.000 It's like what's going on in Hollywood right now, not to derail, but you know, people are losing their jobs because AI is streamlining the creative process for a lot of them there.

00:31:44.000 And you're just, I don't expect personally, I don't expect a CEO to look at the creatives and value them the ways perhaps a manager would, or somebody who worked in the creative fields before them.

00:31:53.000 The guy who went to business school isn't going to see them with the same value.

00:31:57.000 And Trump, at his heart, is a businessman and he's not going to look at the American jobs as the value that he claims to because this clearly proves that that's not true.

00:32:06.000 So, first of all, so H-1B is so there's actually a separate category of visa for exceptional talents called the O-1 visa.

00:32:14.000 Yes.

00:32:15.000 Yeah.

00:32:15.000 That's not what H-1B is.

00:32:17.000 The second problem that I have with this is all summer we were inundated with case after case of H-1B violations getting exposed.

00:32:30.000 To be able to qualify for an H-1B, you cannot have an American qualified candidate apply for the job.

00:32:39.000 We're finding out that they've been listing these H-1B positions in the back of newspapers that no one reads to technically legally qualify for having advertised the job and then just shipping it out to an H-1B.

00:32:53.000 The problem that I have with this as well is that we have public universities around the country that are hiring H-1Bs by the tens of thousands.

00:33:04.000 These are state universities that are required.

00:33:07.000 They're set up to educate the people of that state in a fiscally responsible, like make it like a cheap university for the residents of that state.

00:33:16.000 And what are they doing?

00:33:18.000 They're going out and hiring H-1Bs with state government taxpayer dollars.

00:33:23.000 I mean, this is, it's an absolutely insane problem all the way around.

00:33:27.000 But, you know, quite frankly, I think there's a lot of confusion going on.

00:33:31.000 So universities are hiring foreign workers to like work as staff and administrators.

00:33:36.000 Is that where they're coming from?

00:33:37.000 Teachers, staff, administrators.

00:33:38.000 Yes.

00:33:39.000 So in fiscal year 2025, 17,000 H1, this year, 17,000 H-1B visas were granted for universities around the country.

00:33:54.000 Man, it's an interesting combo because if they're not exceptional talent, but they're better than average, and they're not.

00:34:01.000 The teacher is like a foreign teacher.

00:34:03.000 They're getting like a Chinese teacher to come in and teach mathematics at like some private publications over the summer when President Trump came out with this announcement with Luttnick that they were going to be placing a $100,000 price tag associated to H-1Bs.

00:34:17.000 There's an article in the Houston Chronicle talking about hundreds of Houston teachers are going to be not able to qualify anymore because they have K through 12 teachers in Texas on H-1Bs.

00:34:32.000 We can't even hire teachers.

00:34:34.000 They need to end the H-1B visa program entirely.

00:34:38.000 I don't see the point.

00:34:39.000 Like for H-1Bs, if you want to talk about the O ones, that's a totally different topic.

00:34:44.000 But this has been my position for a long time.

00:34:46.000 And the H-1B visa program entirely.

00:34:49.000 Well, you don't need to keep importing people.

00:34:51.000 We need to focus on the Americans that are here, the people that are here.

00:34:55.000 We need to encourage them to have children.

00:34:57.000 We need to have policies that encourage people to have families and encourage people to stay together when they get married.

00:35:03.000 Like that should be a focus by the government.

00:35:07.000 Yeah, my problem with the H-1B program, and if you asked me four years ago, it would like I would not have told you this, but this year I've been absolutely blackpilled on the program understanding.

00:35:18.000 So you can go through the list of jobs that people have for the H-1B.

00:35:25.000 I mentioned the, you know, the universities, state governments around the country are hiring H-1Bs.

00:35:30.000 What we are seeing as well, like you can go through the list of applicants in your like area, you'll see 7-Eleven managers.

00:35:38.000 Like, we don't have people who can manage 7-Eleven.

00:35:40.000 And at the same time, what we're seeing as well, in addition to the fraud I mentioned earlier, what we're seeing is like we're seeing college graduates, American students graduating universities with technical STEM degrees unable to get jobs.

00:35:56.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:35:57.000 That's a very serious problem because we will never be able to solve the problem of Americans not being quote unquote talented enough to fill these roles.

00:36:06.000 We'll never be able to solve that problem if we're just giving those jobs away because people will stop pursuing those degrees and we're essentially going to import an upper class.

00:36:13.000 Now, another huge part of this is you mentioned that there were a lot of companies that were putting ads for jobs in the backs of obscure papers and magazines that no one was reading.

00:36:24.000 And I remember reading about this and I can't remember the name of it.

00:36:26.000 Someone either made an app or a website that was exposing this.

00:36:29.000 Do you remember the name of that?

00:36:30.000 I forget it.

00:36:30.000 I'll have to look it up, but there's an X account where they're exposing this and they've done an amazing job.

00:36:36.000 And what the backlash was hilarious because they got angry that Americans were calling and applying for it.

00:36:46.000 And so Americans, like, so you see the job will come up on the X account and you'd like, just go apply.

00:36:51.000 The second you apply, that job can no longer be filled by an H-1B person.

00:36:54.000 That's yeah, exactly.

00:36:56.000 So just the act of applying caused them to no longer be able to fill that position with H-1B because of the regulation.

00:36:56.000 You know what?

00:37:02.000 You had to call in.

00:37:03.000 The thing is, if you really wanted to get seen for an interview, you needed to call in and talk with an accent.

00:37:07.000 I'm like, yes, I want the software job.

00:37:08.000 And they bring you in.

00:37:09.000 You're like, hey, guys, how are you?

00:37:10.000 No, I am the guy who talked to you on the phone.

00:37:12.000 That's just how I sound on the phone.

00:37:13.000 Yeah, cold.

00:37:14.000 I don't know what you're talking about.

00:37:15.000 I thought I. In regards to this interview with Laura Ingram and Donald Trump, I think that Trump generally is a disagreeable personality type.

00:37:22.000 There's agreeability on a scale, and he's just made a living being disagreeable.

00:37:26.000 If you come at him, especially emotionally charged, he'll say, no, you're wrong.

00:37:30.000 No.

00:37:30.000 No, stop.

00:37:31.000 And then when she said, don't we have talent here?

00:37:33.000 He's like, no, we don't.

00:37:34.000 He's probably sitting there thinking, oh my God, of course we do and we can.

00:37:38.000 But it's not that I don't think that he's intending to stunt the growth of the town of the American people or he's not saying that just because he hasn't seen it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

00:37:47.000 The problem is to his base right now, it feels like he's chosen the donor class over actual American citizens.

00:37:52.000 I think he needs a longer platform to talk about this because that was a one-minute high-powered emotional charge that he barely got any coherent message out talking about like, why?

00:38:03.000 What's so important about the H-1Bs?

00:38:05.000 I really want to hear him go on that.

00:38:06.000 He needs to let Stephen Miller write the press relief and then sign it, Donald Trump, is what he needs to do.

00:38:13.000 That's what he should do.

00:38:15.000 He should say, Stephen, what am I going to say to the American people about this topic?

00:38:20.000 And then Stephen's going to tell him, and then he should do exactly what Stephen says.

00:38:23.000 And he and Stephen could do a press, like a conference where they sit together and talk about it.

00:38:27.000 If Miller's the guy that has the info and like Miller's the guy that he has the best idea when it the best ideas in my opinion when it comes to immigration and stuff like that basically no immigration is he not pro H1B is Miller not pro H1B I know that he's he's not pro immigration I don't Know his specific take on H-1Bs because there's not just H-1B.

00:38:45.000 It's like there's all kinds of subcategories as well.

00:38:48.000 So I don't know, he would know the specifics, obviously, better than I would.

00:38:52.000 But I know that he's very pro-American worker and he's a very anti-immigrant.

00:38:55.000 The other flip side in trying to steel man Trump's perspective is that if you bring in a Chinese teacher to a college and they're a really good teacher, they're not like exceptional 0-1, then they can teach the kids and make the American students better.

00:39:08.000 We shouldn't.

00:39:09.000 And if we didn't have a great teacher, we shouldn't take any Chinese at all.

00:39:13.000 Or then India, whatever country.

00:39:14.000 It's a big foreign country, you know?

00:39:15.000 Well, okay, fair enough.

00:39:16.000 But at least because we've talked, like, there's talk about Trump was mentioning taking 600,000 Chinese students.

00:39:22.000 Every single Chinese person that comes to the United States is a possible spy, is a likely spy.

00:39:27.000 Because if a Chinese student comes here, the Chinese government will then apply pressure to that student's family and say, you need to do this for us.

00:39:35.000 You need to do that for us.

00:39:37.000 So every single Chinese student, every single Chinese person that comes here is a liability.

00:39:42.000 There should be zero Chinese students led into the United States.

00:39:45.000 Liability doesn't mean you have to get rid of the thing.

00:39:47.000 If some things can have liabilities that are worth, they're still worth having.

00:39:51.000 It depends on the liability, though.

00:39:53.000 You're dealing with a foreign spy who try to sell your country.

00:39:56.000 And you look at the industries that China has their students focus on, right?

00:40:01.000 And you look at the way that China produces or the way that China treats intellectual property and stuff like that.

00:40:10.000 They just steal everything.

00:40:12.000 Everything.

00:40:12.000 They don't really die.

00:40:13.000 So there is no benefit to having Chinese people come to the United States, help develop things in the United States, and then send it back to China.

00:40:20.000 That's a different conversation than H-1Bs because we're talking about students.

00:40:22.000 No, but it's my experience with Chinese students.

00:40:25.000 I was just at Rice at the Nanotechnology Lab.

00:40:26.000 There's Chinese students developing material science like new batteries.

00:40:31.000 It's going back to China.

00:40:32.000 No, no, they're starting corporations in the United States and made CEOs of these corporations to hire American workers.

00:40:36.000 Maybe they're doing that, but the information is still going back to China.

00:40:39.000 But it's also going to the United States.

00:40:40.000 If they go to China, it's just going to go to China.

00:40:44.000 But that's why we don't bring them in.

00:40:45.000 And they're using our resources to develop it.

00:40:47.000 I mean, these not, these, they're not like pro.

00:40:49.000 A lot of these people are not like pro-communist dictatorships like that.

00:40:54.000 But Ian, the point isn't whether or not they're pro.

00:40:56.000 The point is they have family in China, and China will put their family in a hole that is put them in jail and say they get out when you start doing what we say.

00:41:06.000 Like China, China has, like, there are actual like police departments in America that police the Chinese population in the United States.

00:41:16.000 The FBI has actually found them and broken up some of them.

00:41:20.000 But the point is, China, if you're a Chinese student, if you're a Chinese person from China, and you have family in China, they're going to use you against whatever your host country is.

00:41:31.000 And the United States has a responsibility to prevent that.

00:41:34.000 Does it also say something about what Trump thinks about the American people's station in life?

00:41:38.000 Because I did a video this week about Trump, the Trump administration, like customs and border protection, were like using shots of the Batman advertising deportations and stuff like that.

00:41:50.000 So is the idea supposed to be that we free up lower wage jobs by deporting illegal immigrants?

00:41:57.000 Americans can have those jobs, but anything higher than that, no, we're going to import H-1B visas.

00:42:03.000 So there's no upward mobility.

00:42:05.000 You can get those jobs because we're going to deport illegal aliens fine.

00:42:09.000 But you're not going to have any upward mobility because we legally bring in people which will benefit the corporations because they can give them those jobs at a lower cost.

00:42:16.000 Exactly.

00:42:17.000 Well, and also it's just disheartening and confusing that Trump has gone back and forth on this so much.

00:42:22.000 We were all white pilling because he said, oh, actually, we're going to make them pay $100,000 for each H-1B.

00:42:28.000 And then some were saying it was going to be annually reoccurring, which, you know, if you really need to import this talent from other places in the world and you're not just doing it because you want to cut down wages, then surely you should be willing to pay a premium for that.

00:42:40.000 This is somebody who is the top 1% of the top 1% talent-wise.

00:42:44.000 Oh, but as it turns out, they're not willing to do that because we all know that that's not what they're looking for.

00:42:50.000 So I'm curious, why do you guys think Trump keeps going back and forth on this?

00:42:54.000 Is it just a question of him being caught between trying to please his base and trying to please some of the business people around him or what?

00:43:03.000 His advisors?

00:43:04.000 Is he getting bad information and input from the people who surround him?

00:43:07.000 I think he at first was idealistic and like, we're just going to go with what feels right.

00:43:11.000 And now he's being utilitarian and realizing I don't want to gut, you know, 6% of our economy by stripping out the H-1Bs.

00:43:19.000 I saw a tweet with somebody saying that Charlie Kirk was somebody who would have been able to tell him that ideas like this are bad and that your base isn't going to support it.

00:43:27.000 And without Charlie there to kind of give him that information that his administration is suffering right now.

00:43:33.000 Yeah.

00:43:33.000 And one of the good things about Donald Trump is Donald Trump is very pragmatic.

00:43:37.000 Like if there is a policy that he presents and it gets a lot of pushback, he will change.

00:43:44.000 Always change.

00:43:44.000 He's not.

00:43:45.000 What was that?

00:43:46.000 I said always change.

00:43:47.000 Always freak out.

00:43:47.000 Exactly.

00:43:48.000 That's why.

00:43:49.000 Because Donald Trump will respond.

00:43:51.000 And that is something that honestly, in my opinion, is good.

00:43:54.000 So like if.

00:43:57.000 I think that Trump has been on the road for the last six weeks in foreign countries.

00:44:01.000 I think he's been hearing from a lot of CEOs.

00:44:04.000 I think he's back.

00:44:05.000 I think we need to tell him what the American people think very clearly on this.

00:44:09.000 Totally agreed.

00:44:10.000 And one thing we got to remember about Trump, we admire him because he realizes you can just do things.

00:44:17.000 We get upset with him because he also realizes you can just say things.

00:44:21.000 And Trump will just say things sometimes.

00:44:24.000 And we got to call him out and say, not what we voted for.

00:44:27.000 Not what we're looking for.

00:44:29.000 Not what we're interested in.

00:44:30.000 He's not an ideology.

00:44:31.000 He doesn't have some kind of idea.

00:44:33.000 He doesn't have an ideological plan for what's going on.

00:44:36.000 He wants to do things that are going to make him look good.

00:44:40.000 And the things that will make him look good as a president is having a successful country.

00:44:45.000 Well, yeah.

00:44:45.000 And I'll say this.

00:44:47.000 If there's any shot of Donald Trump ever hearing this or anyone hearing this who's near him or who speaks to him, the people who are telling you that we need more H-1Bs, the people who are telling you we need more IVF, the people who are telling you that we need more immigrants, the people who are telling you to abandon your base, just remember this.

00:45:03.000 Your base loves you even when they're disappointed in you and unhappy about these things.

00:45:08.000 These people telling you to do this stuff, they hate you even when you do what they want.

00:45:12.000 You can't go along with them.

00:45:14.000 You got to give the voters what they voted for.

00:45:17.000 I don't think that American equals better.

00:45:19.000 That's not the way it works.

00:45:20.000 If you're not going to be in America with foreign workers.

00:45:24.000 No, no, no.

00:45:25.000 It's not a question of, does American equal better?

00:45:28.000 Like is in our Americans intrinsically more valuable as human beings?

00:45:32.000 It's who are you rooting for?

00:45:34.000 Are you rooting for the people who elected you and the people you were elected to govern or are you rooting for foreigners?

00:45:39.000 Well, if I get the president, if I could get you a tutor and it was the best tutor was like an Indian guy, why wouldn't I get you the Indian guy?

00:45:46.000 And we have a single precedent for it.

00:45:49.000 If you could give me the best tutorial.

00:45:50.000 Well, this is an argument for meritocracy, but the The reality is it's just not the case that you're automatically going to find a better person who's not American to do the job.

00:45:58.000 Automatically when we found all like the last six months, the amount of H-1B fraud is showing that the companies that are using this program are cheating the system that was set up to allow for H-1Bs to fill jobs that there were not Americans to do.

00:46:15.000 The fact that they have to cheat shows that there are Americans to do it.

00:46:18.000 So to be quite frank, I think that is an argument.

00:46:22.000 for, you know, if you want to change, like if you want to change the immigration system and set up, you know, there's a lot of other immigration programs other than H-1B, but quite frankly, like the fact that they're cheating on this is showing, you know, I mean, Palmer Lucky talked about the amount of fraud that he's seen in San Francisco and in Silicon Valley on this.

00:46:42.000 The fact that they're cheating on it shows that it is not as being presented.

00:46:46.000 And one thing we have to keep in mind about H-1Bs, the H-1B visa is tied to a job.

00:46:52.000 So if a person gets brought in on an H-1B visa, the employer has a lot of power over the person.

00:46:59.000 So if you're on an H-1B visa and you're like, I don't, you know, I'm, I, and your boss comes and says, we need you to work this weekend.

00:47:05.000 You're not going to say no.

00:47:06.000 You say, okay.

00:47:07.000 And that even if you're on salary, right?

00:47:09.000 You're going to do what they say because if your boss gets bummed out with you, he's going to be like, all right, well, you're fired.

00:47:14.000 Yeah.

00:47:14.000 And then you'll have to go back to wherever you're from.

00:47:16.000 Unless you're an intrinsic part of the company.

00:47:18.000 Unless you're an intrinsic part of the company, like a good software developer.

00:47:18.000 Pardon me?

00:47:21.000 No, hold on, hold on one second.

00:47:23.000 Again, you're talking about H-1Bs as if they're 0-1s.

00:47:26.000 No, no, software developers, for instance.

00:47:28.000 You can just fire your developers.

00:47:29.000 Oh, yeah, you can.

00:47:30.000 I mean, you're good luck if you want to take six months off and afford it.

00:47:33.000 You can and replace them with someone else.

00:47:35.000 If they're not skilled, it's easy, though.

00:47:37.000 Have you run a company, a software company?

00:47:39.000 Not a software company, but I've run companies.

00:47:40.000 And yes, you absolutely can.

00:47:44.000 If you're a big company, you can.

00:47:45.000 And I ran a software company for them.

00:47:47.000 Ian, even Ian, the point is it's the leverage.

00:47:51.000 It's the threat.

00:47:52.000 You're going to have this person that's like, oh, man, if I don't do what he says, I could lose my job.

00:47:57.000 And if I lose my job, I'll get sent home.

00:47:59.000 It's more than just losing the job to the person that you're talking about.

00:48:04.000 You're talking about they're losing their income and being sent out of the U.S.

00:48:07.000 And so it doesn't matter if they actually do get fired and if they have to replace them.

00:48:12.000 The point is he has far more leverage than a boss does over an employee that's already an American citizen.

00:48:18.000 And that leverage is what will make the person say, well, I got to do what they say, even whether they want to or not.

00:48:23.000 It's the same leverage they're talking about when they were talking about illegal aliens getting deported because they work for these companies under the table and they have no rights because they don't have the same protections that you or I do.

00:48:34.000 It's just giving the, it's just another layer of giving the companies power over their employees.

00:48:39.000 You're making a good point, Phil, that it does kind of put the worker at a disadvantage, even more so.

00:48:43.000 And you're also making an extremely good point, Noah, that it's being defrauded.

00:48:47.000 The system's being defrauded.

00:48:48.000 Not just shut.

00:48:48.000 That's like what?

00:48:48.000 Yeah.

00:48:49.000 I'm not just saying just shut it down, but what them?

00:48:52.000 Yeah.

00:48:53.000 My problem with all of my problem with the immigration and like the reason that I side with, frankly, the American people who keep, every time they have an opportunity, they vote for the guy who wants to restrict immigration.

00:49:05.000 And I don't think that it's the American people are xenophobic.

00:49:09.000 I don't think it's that the American people have a problem with immigrants.

00:49:12.000 I think it's the fact that they've been lied to by every person on the immigration debate for the last 40 years.

00:49:19.000 They keep getting promised, okay, we'll do this amnesty and then we'll build the wall.

00:49:23.000 We will do, you know, we'll do amnesty first and then we'll do border security second.

00:49:29.000 And they have been lied to over and over and over again.

00:49:32.000 And I think the dishonesty has led to what we have now, which is like, hey, guys, like, come on.

00:49:38.000 Like, finally, like, we've got to stop.

00:49:40.000 And it's because of the dishonesty.

00:49:43.000 And so, like, because the American people are like God, like God-loving, amazing people.

00:49:50.000 And the fact that what we're going through right now is a result of blatant dishonesty through the entire system.

00:49:55.000 And I think that's what the people want fixed more than anything else.

00:49:58.000 Not just dishonesty, but they've actually been made to be seen as bad people if they don't do this.

00:50:02.000 That's the worst way.

00:50:04.000 Not only have they been lied to for the last 40 years, now the argument has gotten so bad that if you believe in borders at all, you're a bad person.

00:50:11.000 Racist.

00:50:11.000 A racist.

00:50:12.000 100%.

00:50:13.000 That's the argument the left has done consistently.

00:50:16.000 Every policy.

00:50:17.000 And Republicans before Trump.

00:50:18.000 Yeah, fair enough.

00:50:19.000 But that's because the Republicans are afraid of step out of line because the Democrats are going to call them racists.

00:50:19.000 Okay.

00:50:27.000 The fact that the American people cannot engage in argument because the Democrats are just going to say, well, you're a bad person.

00:50:35.000 This is a moral argument, et cetera.

00:50:37.000 That's a terrible thing for the country because then you can't actually get people that will debate ideas.

00:50:42.000 It's all about just ad hominem attacks.

00:50:45.000 You don't like this policy?

00:50:46.000 You want to kill children.

00:50:47.000 You don't like this policy?

00:50:48.000 It's because you're a racist.

00:50:50.000 You don't like this policy?

00:50:51.000 It's because you're an Islamophobia.

00:50:52.000 You don't like this policy?

00:50:53.000 It's because it's always these attacks against these ad hominem attacks, as opposed to saying, well, what are the actual arguments here?

00:51:02.000 Nobody steel mans anyone's arguments when it comes to policymaking.

00:51:06.000 And that is bad for America.

00:51:08.000 You know, I think Trump went in America first this second term particularly and the first term, but then now he's more liberal economic order first.

00:51:15.000 Like he's really trying to preserve Israel, our hegemony over the Suez, that whole Middle East thing.

00:51:20.000 Not that he wants war, but that he's more global mind right now.

00:51:24.000 And this H-1B thing has been used for 40 years for the world to disrupt and destroy liberalism in the United States.

00:51:31.000 It sounds like they've really corrupted this thing, and they want to use people's compassion to be like, what do you, you can't just get rid of visas.

00:51:37.000 That would destroy our heritage, what we've built our ethos upon.

00:51:41.000 But he's more like, bro, we're a world government.

00:51:44.000 Like this is a world, the economics is everywhere.

00:51:46.000 You can't just like borders.

00:51:48.000 Yeah, you can set up machine gun nests, but like you can't, you know, it's like you can call him on the phone across the, you can video chat.

00:51:56.000 You can, you can, you know, video conference.

00:51:58.000 That's what it seems like is that he's more globally mindseted right now.

00:52:03.000 Do you think, all right, here's a question.

00:52:05.000 Do you think when some of these things come out, it's because Trump is trying to pick his battles and he doesn't think he's going to be able to achieve something or wants to focus on something else, but he needs to brand everything as a victory.

00:52:15.000 So he just says, I wanted this the whole time.

00:52:18.000 I mean, that speaks to his ego, if that's true.

00:52:20.000 Yeah.

00:52:21.000 I'm spitballing you.

00:52:21.000 No, I'm just serious.

00:52:22.000 I'm just musing as they say.

00:52:24.000 He does like saying that he's always, he does like promoting himself as not making mistakes and getting it right.

00:52:30.000 Like the COVID stuff, he did a lot of that with COVID, the way that was handled.

00:52:34.000 I mean, they printed, what, $7 trillion?

00:52:36.000 Maybe it wasn't his administration, but the stuff he had set up and kind of green lighted.

00:52:40.000 And he, he, yeah, he, he, but I don't know.

00:52:43.000 To answer your question, I can't really think for him.

00:52:43.000 I don't know.

00:52:45.000 Yeah.

00:52:46.000 Well, speaking of COVID and a lot of extra cash being injected into the economy and some of the fallout from that, Trump, according to Yahoo News, is downplaying economic woes as partisans spin saying costs are way down.

00:53:00.000 President Donald Trump said the U.S. economy is strong and insisted polls showing Americans are feeling economic pain are fake during an interview on Fox News that aired on Monday night.

00:53:09.000 Trump said bad news about the economy amounted to a conjob by the Democrats, adding Democrats feed major news network anchors with the message the economy is bad.

00:53:17.000 And then every anchor does exactly what they say.

00:53:21.000 That is cope.

00:53:22.000 That is 110% correct.

00:53:23.000 So there's, yeah, there's, well, there's two things here because he is right about the way that news is presented regarding his administration and the way news is presented regarding anything, basically anything Donald Trump touches.

00:53:38.000 But at the same time, the idea that you can argue with people that are suffering, that are struggling, people that can't pay their bills, people that can't afford groceries.

00:53:50.000 If I understand correctly, defaults are going up on credit card bills.

00:53:54.000 There's record highs on defaults on car loans.

00:53:57.000 People are starting to default on their rent and their mortgages and stuff like that.

00:54:02.000 That kind of stuff, you can't argue with.

00:54:04.000 You can't say the economy is great and then look at the numbers and say, look, defaults are going up.

00:54:08.000 People aren't able to pay their bills.

00:54:10.000 These statistics do not lie.

00:54:12.000 And so if Donald Trump is just going to say, hey, they're wrong, the American people are going to say, he doesn't give a crap about us.

00:54:19.000 We'll also know what's actually going on.

00:54:21.000 He doesn't care about us.

00:54:22.000 Well, and you also can't say the economy is great after you've been talking about the need for 50-year mortgages and 15-year auto loans and everyone receiving a $2,000 stimulus check.

00:54:33.000 Listen, the stimulus check thing, at the very least, maybe you can make the argument, well, we've been robbed by these other countries and the tariffs have delivered some of the money back to us.

00:54:40.000 So I'll give it back to the people.

00:54:41.000 Sure.

00:54:41.000 Maybe that's a separate conversation.

00:54:43.000 But when you're talking about needing to make people debt slaves to banks for far longer periods of time than they've ever had to be to purchase things that people were able to purchase without having to give that kind of interest money to banks and burn that kind of capital.

00:54:55.000 No, you can't turn around and say the economy is actually great.

00:54:58.000 Speaking of him giving $2,000 checks, stimulus checks with tariff money, that's wealth distribution.

00:55:03.000 That's him taking my money because prices have been jacked up due to tariffs and giving it to somebody else.

00:55:08.000 That's communist socialist behavior.

00:55:11.000 It's disgusting.

00:55:12.000 It's shocking that he even thought of it.

00:55:14.000 That's been the standard for ever and ever, to be honest with you.

00:55:14.000 It's crazy.

00:55:19.000 I mean, like the unemployment taxes.

00:55:20.000 Exactly what that's what they did when they started printing all the money that has created the income inequality that everyone's experiencing.

00:55:27.000 Well, you know, Ian wants to end the 20,000.

00:55:29.000 Well, you know, Ian wants to end the feds.

00:55:29.000 What?

00:55:31.000 He's going to agree with you.

00:55:32.000 But I mean, I am actually fond of the idea of ending the Federal Reserve as well.

00:55:32.000 And then suddenly.

00:55:37.000 But, you know, when they start printing money and people that have things, you know, they can take out, they have good credit, they have assets.

00:55:44.000 They can take out loans at 0%, 1%, 2%, and then they put it into the stock market and the stock market returns are 10%, 15% per year.

00:55:52.000 They're making 12%, 13% on this money that they borrowed.

00:55:57.000 And all it's doing is sitting in the stock market because they bought stock with it and they just make a bunch of money off of this loan because the government kept interest rates on cheap.

00:56:06.000 I want Noah to have a chance because he's been trying to get in here.

00:56:08.000 Yeah.

00:56:08.000 Well, so this takes me, you know, we talked, we mentioned earlier the loss of Charlie Kirk.

00:56:17.000 Charlie's last interview that he did with Tucker Carlson, he went on there with a single message.

00:56:22.000 That message was the American youth are suffering.

00:56:26.000 Yep.

00:56:28.000 They are facing challenges that no other generation has faced.

00:56:33.000 And this is a crisis and we need to make this our top priority as a nation.

00:56:39.000 And he didn't bring that because everything was going well.

00:56:43.000 He brought that because he, you know, he actually frustrated, like he, he talked about and he was visibly frustrated on that in that conversation with Tucker where he's like, I try to tell boomers this and they will not listen.

00:56:56.000 And he broke down, you know, the fact that, you know, this was just out the other day.

00:57:03.000 We had a news story.

00:57:06.000 The median age of first time, I mean, so first-time home buyers are now 40 years old.

00:57:12.000 The median age of all home buyers is 60.

00:57:16.000 And I mean, so like we're talking, like, that is an insane statistic.

00:57:20.000 The amount of debt that kids are getting into when they get out of college is, I mean, it's absolutely astonishing.

00:57:28.000 But then you go down the fact that, I mean, you know, they're doing buy now, pay later.

00:57:31.000 I'm buying, you know, Chipotle.

00:57:33.000 I mean, it's absolutely, so he brought this.

00:57:37.000 He felt that it was a critical issue.

00:57:39.000 I think that we owe it to Charlie to keep talking about that because, I mean, that crisis is not going away until we solve it.

00:57:47.000 And government caused basically every single problem that Charlie listed.

00:57:51.000 And this is one of those things that I've brought up a bunch of times: being that, like, first of all, they have a problem because they don't really have somebody to take over after Trump leaves office.

00:57:59.000 There isn't a guaranteed candidate that really feels like he's waiting in the wings.

00:58:03.000 And the youth are upset, and it feels like a race against.

00:58:06.000 So, right now, men and women are voting on party lines in a lot of ways.

00:58:10.000 Men have been voting conservative because they feel like or are voting Republican because they feel like the Democrats have absolutely nothing for them.

00:58:18.000 But that only lasts so long if the economy gets so bad.

00:58:21.000 All it takes is one very charismatic Democrat to pull men who are desperate back to that side of the aisle.

00:58:29.000 If all they do is gather enough power and enough influence within the party to be able to stave off the anti-men, anti-white part of the coalition there.

00:58:38.000 And that could happen.

00:58:39.000 Now, maybe we're talking about Mamdani in New York City.

00:58:42.000 And if you don't think that it's possible that you get another charismatic Mamdani type that can run for government, you know, can run for president because he can't, it's very much possible.

00:58:53.000 And that could happen.

00:58:54.000 And they don't have an argument against that.

00:58:55.000 I made a joke last, I'm like half joking when I say something like this.

00:58:58.000 You just run Fetterman because everybody, like, he, you know, like, I saw something today saying like he's considering switching parties, and people are like, you know, he should.

00:59:06.000 And even if he doesn't, we need at least one sane Democrat.

00:59:10.000 Like literally all they need is like one sane Democrat.

00:59:13.000 And there is a whole bunch of people in the middle who would be very willing to vote the other way because they're not getting what they want right now from the Republicans.

00:59:20.000 Well, here's the problem.

00:59:21.000 And this is something the Democrats have been wrestling with to an extent since Trump's first election, but especially since his last election.

00:59:31.000 They keep saying, how do we reach young men?

00:59:32.000 How do we reach young men?

00:59:33.000 How do we reach young men?

00:59:34.000 And of course, what they're saying is, how do we continue to treat young men this way and still get them to vote for us?

00:59:40.000 And now the right is actually starting to ask that exact same question.

00:59:43.000 This occurred to me just the other day that basically anytime you hear the question, how do we reach young men?

00:59:48.000 What you're really being asked is, how do I get young men to obey?

00:59:52.000 Not how do I give them a message that works?

00:59:55.000 Not how do I change circumstances to make the world friendlier to them so they can start families?

00:59:59.000 And not how do we genuinely change our policies in such a way that appeals to them?

01:00:04.000 But what kind of language should we use to get them over?

01:00:07.000 Like, how do we get around Joe Rogan?

01:00:09.000 How do we get someone who appeals to them?

01:00:11.000 Young men know that they're going to have more trouble starting families than their parents, that they're going to have more trouble getting homes.

01:00:18.000 As you mentioned, the median home buyer is 40 years old.

01:00:23.000 That age has only gone up and up over the years.

01:00:26.000 So the Democrats are fundamentally incapable of offering up any solutions that are going to appeal to young men because they all hate their dad a lot.

01:00:35.000 And that's actually what they see in the young men that they talk to.

01:00:38.000 I'm serious.

01:00:39.000 Any young man who wants to start a family, they see their father and him and they hate him.

01:00:42.000 And so even on an abstract political level, they have to do things that are fundamentally anti-man.

01:00:46.000 The Republicans are like 50-50 there.

01:00:49.000 We've widened the tent, so there's like a lot of dad haters in the party now, too, to be totally blunt.

01:00:54.000 And so I think we need to try to rescue the Republican Party from that mentality and from that, how do we make the green line go up, even at the expense of human well-being and new families getting started?

01:01:05.000 I think the problem is that the economy can get bad enough where it doesn't matter anymore, where they'll vote for their financial well-being in the future rather than on gendered lines if things get bad enough the way things are.

01:01:16.000 And what is the Republican solution to that right now?

01:01:18.000 50-year mortgages?

01:01:20.000 Yeah.

01:01:21.000 Lying about grocery prices going down when everybody knows that that's not true and pretending like everything's hunky-dory when it's definitely not.

01:01:28.000 Like there aren't solutions there from either side.

01:01:31.000 They're basically surviving on the fact that the left is freaking awful.

01:01:35.000 That's right.

01:01:35.000 That's speaking to men.

01:01:36.000 But that eventually won't keep if things go.

01:01:37.000 Well, and it won't keep next year.

01:01:39.000 I mean, we have midterm elections coming up.

01:01:41.000 We all know that Trump voters don't come out to vote in midterm elections.

01:01:46.000 We already know that.

01:01:47.000 They're especially not going to come out if Republicans are putting off.

01:01:51.000 You know, I mean, the problem and the reason that we have not seen Republicans take action, you know, and I'm not going to be fair to them, but I will for a second.

01:02:01.000 These, the solutions are hard, right?

01:02:03.000 So, like, why are home prices up so much?

01:02:06.000 Because, you know, New York City, where Mamdani just got elected, one-third of rented apartments in that city are price controlled.

01:02:16.000 I mean, so we are talking about either people who are part of like Section 8 housing, whatever the state and local version is of Section 8, plus rent control departments.

01:02:24.000 Those are one-third of all units.

01:02:27.000 You want to lower prices?

01:02:28.000 You got to get rid of that welfare.

01:02:29.000 I mean, like, so, you know, because the people that are suffering are the people who like are just above, you know, that, you know, being qualified for those programs.

01:02:38.000 We have got to tackle the hard problems that frankly are causing the unaffordability.

01:02:45.000 Republicans, I don't think, have the guts.

01:02:47.000 And that's what's really concerning.

01:02:48.000 Well, I think you're right.

01:02:49.000 Any problem that is going to require short-term pain to solve and will take more than four years to sort itself out is something no politician is going to actually touch.

01:02:58.000 And they'll just throw band-aids over it.

01:02:59.000 And that's the exact case with the housing market.

01:03:01.000 Look, man, this is going to be dark.

01:03:03.000 And I hate saying this.

01:03:06.000 I'm not trying to upset or offend anyone, you know, and I know I never do that, but there is basically no way to ensure that young men can buy houses and start families other than allowing for an actual market correction to happen, which on paper is going to look awful for the economy and which everyone is going to say is a bad thing, but is probably an important step in promoting the growth of new American families.

01:03:33.000 And I'm not saying, I'm not, and by the way, I'm not saying we go out of way to engineer that or do anything that would negatively affect the prices of housing.

01:03:40.000 I think we just have to let the market sort itself out.

01:03:42.000 And if the prices come down, you let them come down instead of saying, oh my gosh, we need to allow for there to be these 50-year mortgages so that we can extend buying power so that people can purchase more house than they're able to afford traditionally based on their income level.

01:03:55.000 Well, then what's the result of that?

01:03:57.000 Prices don't come down.

01:03:59.000 The other thing other than a market correction that would solve the problem is a reduction in cost.

01:04:03.000 Well, that's what a market correction is.

01:04:05.000 No, just buy cheaper fuel, like going to a hydrogen fuel system.

01:04:07.000 Something like that.

01:04:08.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, that's fair.

01:04:09.000 Free opens.

01:04:10.000 A correction would be like a market crash, and then the dollar, it requires a million dollars to buy a hamburger.

01:04:18.000 And everyone with Bitcoin now becomes the norm.

01:04:20.000 And all these other, it'd be like 120 million people on the street begging for food.

01:04:26.000 And then the Bitcoin would be the one world currency where they track you.

01:04:30.000 So the market correction would be a very bad thing for society right now.

01:04:34.000 I think reducing cost with technology and another industrial revolution, but you don't see a lot of that talk in politics because a lot of times maybe they're just not at the intellectual level or they're just too focused on getting votes.

01:04:46.000 Like you were saying, the system doesn't get people into getting, how do we get young men to vote for me?

01:04:51.000 It's rather, how do I actually inspire young men?

01:04:53.000 Well, show them the solution.

01:04:54.000 Well, that's exactly right.

01:04:55.000 And like I mentioned, we just don't have a system that's conducive to solving problems that take more than four years to solve and that require short-term pain.

01:05:03.000 And just a slight disagreement/slash correction.

01:05:06.000 A market correction wouldn't necessarily mean a crash, just a reduction.

01:05:09.000 But I think you're right that there's other...

01:05:11.000 What do you mean?

01:05:12.000 Well, it wouldn't have to be a total crash of the prices in the housing market.

01:05:16.000 It would just be a decrease.

01:05:17.000 And it could even be a gradual decrease, but it probably needs to happen.

01:05:19.000 I'm not saying it will.

01:05:20.000 I'm skeptical that a correction would not lead to a crash.

01:05:26.000 I'm just saying it's not impossible.

01:05:26.000 I agree with you.

01:05:28.000 I'm saying they're not the same thing.

01:05:30.000 Talking about a crash of just a housing market, right?

01:05:32.000 Right now, we've got a dollar bubble, like it's an everything bubble.

01:05:35.000 The stock market is in a bubble because of all of the money that's been printed.

01:05:39.000 All the people are just buying stock with free money.

01:05:42.000 Like, there's an everything bubble right now.

01:05:44.000 So, a correction in the housing market could turn into an economy-wide crash.

01:05:49.000 It's very, very dangerous.

01:05:50.000 And just for semantic, a crash would be a type of correction.

01:05:54.000 Not all corrections are correct.

01:05:55.000 Exactly.

01:05:56.000 Yeah.

01:05:56.000 I think that's fair.

01:05:56.000 Yeah.

01:05:57.000 Well, speaking of which, speaking of economic crashes, from the post-millennial, socialist Katie Wilson wins election for Seattle mayor, defeating Democratic incumbent Bruce Harrell after a late vote count.

01:06:11.000 Hilson describes herself as a socialist, and her win is a rejection of the moderate leadership that the city once saw.

01:06:18.000 Socialist Katie Wilson has defeated Democratic incumbent Bruce Harrell to become Seattle's next mayor.

01:06:23.000 The election, which occurred on November 4th, saw Harrell in the lead by seven points, but Wilson redistributed his vote.

01:06:28.000 Now, Wilson gained ground over a week later as Mallon ballots continued.

01:06:33.000 So we got, okay, so maybe she did redistribute.

01:06:35.000 No, I don't know.

01:06:37.000 That's a joke, YouTube.

01:06:38.000 We're just joshing around here, just a bunch of fellas making jokes.

01:06:41.000 The latest ballot count on November 12th showed Wilson leading by nearly 2,000 votes, enough for the race to be called for the socialist barista with 50.08% to Harrel's 49.59%.

01:06:53.000 So what do you guys think of this?

01:06:54.000 You big fans?

01:06:55.000 This just speaks to the argument that we've been making.

01:06:58.000 Like, if you don't have an economy that works for people, specifically for young people, then they're not going to think, oh, I can buy into a capitalist society.

01:07:08.000 The reason this is the second major city in this particular election season that has elected a socialist who said, you know, at least has said, I am going to institute policies that are supposed to help you.

01:07:23.000 And it's not like they defeated a Republican.

01:07:26.000 Both of them defeated Democrats.

01:07:28.000 Cuomo, even though he was running as an independent, he was a Democrat, and he'd been a Democrat, I believe, all of his life.

01:07:33.000 And the socialist defeated the Democrat in Seattle.

01:07:38.000 These elections bode very, very badly for the United States.

01:07:43.000 Young people do not buy into our system, and we need to fix that.

01:07:48.000 We need to do something.

01:07:50.000 The federal government needs to do something to make sure that young people feel like they can actually engage in our system and will come out better for it.

01:07:59.000 This is like a pendulum swing from corporatocracy where I don't know how much richer Amazon, Google got during the pandemic, how much richer Alphabet, these, you know, what is it, Nvidia, and BlackRock buying housing.

01:08:12.000 Now, these mega, you know, global mega corps own houses that should probably be owned by American citizens so that people are like, just give me some socialism to fix this.

01:08:21.000 I mean, if you can't stop corporations, what do you do?

01:08:25.000 You have to band together as a society, and that's kind of communistic, you know?

01:08:30.000 So, well, the problem is like, so for somebody like me, like I get grossed out when people talk about wealth redistribution.

01:08:36.000 I hate the idea that you think you should have any say over what somebody else does with their money.

01:08:41.000 And even worse, the idea that you can take money from them and imagine yourself the good guy.

01:08:46.000 But for a lot of these people, they don't see a way out.

01:08:49.000 And I understand, like, I'm in a lot of ways, I'm in the same boat.

01:08:52.000 I'm, it's not like I live in a world now where the idea of owning a house is almost ridiculous.

01:08:57.000 And you're like, look, I don't believe in it because at my core value, I don't believe in taking from somebody else and then imagining that I'm the good guy.

01:09:04.000 But for a lot of these people, they don't see any other path forward.

01:09:07.000 And you're going to get more elections like this in the future because they don't see a world where capitalism actually works.

01:09:13.000 Well, I guess I have a, I don't know, you know, devil's advocate question here.

01:09:19.000 What does a socialist mean in Seattle?

01:09:21.000 I mean, the city that has she the moderate.

01:09:24.000 Yeah, like like what you know Mamdani was like so we knew with him it was the he's gonna have the government grocery stores.

01:09:32.000 I think people understand like that's that seems like a pretty dumb idea.

01:09:36.000 But like Seattle, like I've visited in the last five years, like it seemed to me pretty socialist already.

01:09:44.000 So I'm actually curious what that means.

01:09:46.000 Yeah, it just means they're going to accelerate the collapse.

01:09:48.000 Sure.

01:09:49.000 I'm wondering the same thing.

01:09:50.000 When I say capitalism, I'm not even necessarily referencing that specifically because we just had a whole discussion about how government and big business get together and do things like H-1B visas, right?

01:10:01.000 That's not capitalism.

01:10:02.000 That's cronyism at best, but they don't understand that.

01:10:05.000 They don't understand that there's a difference between those ideals.

01:10:07.000 All they see is a media where a bunch of millionaires have othered the idea of the billionaire and turned them into a class of person that's worthy of disdain because that's the haves and the have-nots and they're going to keep fighting about it.

01:10:21.000 The idea that property is something that is attainable has to be an idea that's tangible and real to you.

01:10:28.000 Yes, hold on.

01:10:30.000 That's the point, right?

01:10:31.000 Young people nowadays don't ever expect to own their own home.

01:10:35.000 If you live in a city, you don't own a car.

01:10:37.000 You probably have some kind of public, rely on public transit or whatever.

01:10:40.000 So the idea of property has to be something that young people can actually.

01:10:45.000 And like, and yes, ownership.

01:10:47.000 I mean, because if you're financing a burrito, it means that you like legit, like you must not really think money's real at that time.

01:10:56.000 I think this must all be like a game.

01:10:56.000 Yeah.

01:10:58.000 You know, like, I mean, you have no investment in like accumulation in like, you know, like long term.

01:11:05.000 Like at that point, I mean, you're dealing with, you know, I think a really sad state of affairs that like we morally, like if we have the power to do it, we have got to change course, even if it's painful.

01:11:17.000 Phil, when you're talking about property ownership and how important that is to give young people hope to own property, I agree.

01:11:23.000 But the problem I'm seeing is if BlackRock owns 10 million houses, like I'm kind of open to the idea of seizing the property from BlackRock and giving it back to the American people.

01:11:33.000 And the reason I'm not is because if you seize property, you destroy investment.

01:11:33.000 I'm not.

01:11:39.000 But if you're going to seize property from either companies or from people, then people that have capital are not going to invest their capital.

01:11:49.000 And this is what happens in socialist societies.

01:11:51.000 When you nationalize things, when the government takes property from private ownership, then people that have capital are like, I'm not going to invest my money because the government will take it.

01:12:02.000 So that was the argument that was made in New York.

01:12:06.000 Kevin Leary made the argument.

01:12:07.000 Why am I going to try to build something when I know that the government is likely to just take it?

01:12:12.000 It's just a difference between, I wouldn't advocate taking it from a person or a small business or something, but a mega, these corporatocracy is like, it's a new function that is like, how do you prevent?

01:12:23.000 Because if BlackRock owned every house in the United States, what I would say about BlackRock, what I'd say about BlackRock, I know a thing or two about the company.

01:12:29.000 I've been, you know, my job, I've been going after them for years.

01:12:33.000 There are multiple federal court cases at this point that have labeled BlackRock a monopoly.

01:12:39.000 So I think that there is a strong case to be made to break BlackRock up.

01:12:44.000 BlackRock, Vanguard, State Street, those three have an absurd percentage of all of the investment, like pension fund and other investment, you know, money in this country.

01:12:56.000 We do have antitrust laws on the books.

01:12:59.000 Those are longstanding.

01:13:01.000 And if we feel that they have exceeded, you know, the scale and they are a monopolistic actor, that there are laws on the books to deal with that.

01:13:11.000 So that's like one way that you can do it legally with like within the current framework of law.

01:13:15.000 Can an American antitrust suit be brought against a global corporation with headquarters in like Mumbai or something?

01:13:21.000 I mean, it's a U.S. corporation.

01:13:23.000 Like at the end of the day, I think it's headquartered in Delaware.

01:13:25.000 Like we can, they have branches over.

01:13:28.000 I got a spicy question for you.

01:13:29.000 Was that corporation that got bought?

01:13:31.000 It got bought by Bayer, which is a British company because they had such bad press in the U.S.

01:13:35.000 To your point, Ian, I would be far more, I like the idea of antitrust laws and breaking a company up far more than I like the idea of seizing property.

01:13:46.000 The problem with breaking up a company is what they did with Standard Oil, Rockefeller, Standard Oil.

01:13:50.000 They broke it up into like six or eight other oil companies, but Rockefeller still owned all those other companies.

01:13:55.000 It just made them richer.

01:13:56.000 So if you did that to BlackRock and now there's eight companies that own 30% of the housing, what's the difference?

01:14:00.000 Well, here's the question.

01:14:01.000 But Ian, hold on, I got a spicy question.

01:14:03.000 It's owned by itself.

01:14:04.000 It's owned by its own investors, which it's crazy.

01:14:07.000 Then it's very spicy about this.

01:14:10.000 So let's say that BlackRock only has a small percentage of real estate, and a huge reason the price was driven up was because there were foreigners who were given handouts from taxpayers to be able to purchase houses.

01:14:24.000 Would you be okay with seizing those houses to bring prices down?

01:14:28.000 Say that again, foreigners do.

01:14:29.000 If it were the case that there were many people in our country who were non-citizens who were receiving specific benefits or were migrants who were naturalized by activist judges or whatever, who received houses or benefits at the expense of taxpayers and that drove the price of housing up, would you be okay with seizing their houses?

01:14:46.000 No, I'm talking about mega corporations.

01:14:48.000 So only mega corporations.

01:14:50.000 At this moment, BlackRock buying the housing in the United States is a lot of people who are going to be able to do that.

01:14:52.000 I think like 3 to 8% of homes are owned by corporations in this country.

01:14:56.000 I see absolutely no reason why a city can't, and I think they should put an ordinance in.

01:15:05.000 In my understanding, there's no constitutional barrier reason why a city, county, or even state government couldn't say that, you know, because a residential home is a particular like designation that, you know, residential homes could not be purchased by, you know, you could say an out-of-state corporation.

01:15:27.000 I mean, you could play some sort of cat.

01:15:29.000 I mean, there's no reason why you couldn't pass a law to say that.

01:15:31.000 And when you ban BlackRock from doing that or like to ban them from doing it in the future so they can't gain more.

01:15:37.000 Like those are the types of things that are completely legal and constitutional that we could do.

01:15:41.000 Would you put liquidate their assets, i.e. take their corporations and put them on like a public market for sale?

01:15:45.000 They're already publicly owned.

01:15:47.000 No, no, take the apartment, take the houses from BlackRock.

01:15:50.000 You could prevent them from buying any more, which would like, if you prevented them from buying any more, that would negate their entire business strategy and they'd probably end up selling.

01:15:58.000 And their strategy is to get like, you know, to get a massive supply.

01:16:03.000 You brought up the idea of monopoly and breaking these companies up.

01:16:06.000 Well, one of the things that David Zaslav said when the 2024 election was going on was that he, you know, he wasn't talking about who he was going to vote for, but he did say that Trump was pro-business and pro-acquisition for companies.

01:16:16.000 One of the reasons why David Ellison was able to make Skydance and Paramount a reality.

01:16:22.000 And one of the reasons they're considered a frontrunner for buying Warner Brothers is because that family has a strong relationship with Donald Trump, who is going to be pro-business and allowing them to merge their companies, even if there are actual monopolistic concerns there.

01:16:35.000 So again, that's more him playing to his donor class than his base.

01:16:40.000 And like, would you become one with the Borg?

01:16:44.000 Would you become one with the demon to preserve yourself?

01:16:47.000 Oracle, the Oracle demon, Larry, Larry Ellison.

01:16:50.000 Yeah, I mean, Ian, just the mass conglomeration as like the demon, you know.

01:16:53.000 When you talk about just, you know, just BlackRock or just the big companies, I can't help but think of the fact that like when the income tax was instituted, it was only 1%.

01:17:02.000 You were like, no, no, we're not going to worry about small businesses and stuff.

01:17:05.000 And we wouldn't take the property from them.

01:17:07.000 But when the income tax was created, it was 1% or 2% only on the top, top, top earners.

01:17:14.000 Now everybody pays 40%.

01:17:17.000 So it's not a situation where you can just say, oh, this will actually be limited.

01:17:22.000 You're saying the government is, if you allow the government to seize property just because you're going to see the government trying to seize more property.

01:17:30.000 The Intel buying into 10% of Intel, like the government just bought 10% of Intel.

01:17:34.000 That's like pure communism, right there.

01:17:36.000 No, that's not pure communism.

01:17:37.000 You don't want your communism to be all of Intel and then all of the other things.

01:17:40.000 Okay, it's a step towards pure communism.

01:17:41.000 You're saying the slippery slope.

01:17:42.000 But the government has already done that.

01:17:44.000 And the government has done that historically as well.

01:17:47.000 Taking an interest in a particular industry because of national security is different than saying we're going to expropriate all of your property because you own too much.

01:17:58.000 I think that BlackRock, State Street, and Vanguard are a unique formation on the planet that needs to be dealt with.

01:18:03.000 It's not just a corporation.

01:18:05.000 You could call it something other than corporation.

01:18:07.000 You know, they're hiding behind that term and legal function right now.

01:18:10.000 But how can three companies own 22% of the stock market?

01:18:14.000 Who owns those companies?

01:18:15.000 Who are those people?

01:18:16.000 Their names aren't even public.

01:18:17.000 People that own it.

01:18:19.000 So, yeah, I mean, so the people who, yeah, who owns them?

01:18:24.000 I mean, so if you actually look at, you know, where, like, where's, you know, they're like, they manage something like BlackRock's like 11 trillion now.

01:18:34.000 It is pension funds globally.

01:18:36.000 Like they have a massive, and pension funds are where all the biggest pools of capital on the planet are.

01:18:42.000 You know, like Republican states have like a couple trillion dollars of investment fund.

01:18:48.000 You know, you have California, New York, and other blue states are another two or three trillion dollars.

01:18:53.000 European governments, their pension funds are another five or six trillion dollars.

01:18:58.000 So, I mean, like, where the biggest pools of capital are literally public pension funds.

01:19:04.000 And the funny thing about it is because none of the individuals who have their pensions really have any idea where their money's invested.

01:19:10.000 It's just in a pension.

01:19:12.000 So it creates this thing where, like, you know, yes, it's all like invested in the stock market, but none of the individuals who own that money understand it, which is why you end up with the situation that you described with Black Rock.

01:19:23.000 Well, who owns BlackRock?

01:19:25.000 The pensioners who have no idea what they own.

01:19:28.000 It's a very weird situation.

01:19:29.000 I do think, you know, getting back to the point I made before, I think that they're like, you know, there was a Houston judge earlier this year called BlackRock, Vanguard, State Street, I mean, essentially monopolistic actors.

01:19:41.000 And I think we're in a situation where, you know, it's pretty clear, I think we do need to be calling for something like that.

01:19:48.000 We have to, because otherwise we're going to see communism and socialism in an actual seizure of properties eventually.

01:19:53.000 Like if people are homeless on the street and some corporation owns 90% of the houses on a block, those people are just going to go break into the houses and squat and take them.

01:20:00.000 So like we could do it.

01:20:01.000 If we can do it legally and peacefully, I think that's important.

01:20:04.000 I mean, if your argument is use a little socialism to prevent a lot of socialism, I do think that the I do think that the situation will eventually devolve into socialism either way.

01:20:16.000 Like anti-socialism.

01:20:17.000 You can consider anti-spring.

01:20:19.000 That makes sense.

01:20:20.000 Don't you think there's some level of regulation that's like you were saying, like, like we were saying, the idea of using existing antitrust laws, I'm comfortable with that.

01:20:32.000 Breaking up a company.

01:20:32.000 Yeah.

01:20:33.000 I think that that's something that's a multinational aspect that's new that makes antitrust laws almost malfunct.

01:20:39.000 I don't agree with you.

01:20:40.000 But domestically, they are effectively, I mean, there's like three actors that control a massive percentage of the market domestic.

01:20:51.000 I think you can make an antitrust case for it.

01:20:54.000 I'm not like an trust attorney.

01:20:55.000 Like, you know, like that's not, that's not my specialty.

01:20:58.000 But, you know, my point is there have been judges who've referred to them that way.

01:21:02.000 I think that they, you know, I think that we need to, I think the American people need to start raising the alarm on that.

01:21:09.000 And the thing is, I think what the point is, like, you're, you're talking about a fast solution.

01:21:13.000 That's a little bit of socialism.

01:21:15.000 But the problem is, is the slow solution like antitrust takes forever.

01:21:19.000 And these companies have unlimited money to bury it in lawsuits.

01:21:22.000 They're the only ones that have the possibility of taking on the U.S. government and possibly winning.

01:21:28.000 I mean, you know, so the ESG pension fund issue, like there have been lawsuits that have gone against, you know, corporations on that.

01:21:35.000 So I, you know, I'm not, I'm not a black pillar on this.

01:21:38.000 I think we can solve it.

01:21:39.000 I think, but we need to actually like we need to collectively like start saying this, you know, consistently.

01:21:46.000 We need to raise that alarm.

01:21:47.000 And there's a cultural issue around this here where, you know, the young people who are upset about all these things, they go back and forth, especially on social media, with people from older generations who tell them to drink, you know, make your coffee at home and you'll be able to buy a house one day.

01:22:02.000 Completely divorced from the reality of the world we live in now.

01:22:06.000 Even if you're going to college route, you know, what it costs to send somebody to college for debt that they're never going to be able to repay while they get their 50-year mortgage, like I said before, there's just, there is so much blackpilling amongst the youth because they're getting like every generation before them said we need to make the world better for our children.

01:22:23.000 And the kids growing up now are being told by those that came before them, deal with it and, you know, pick yourself up by the bootstraps.

01:22:29.000 And the reality is there was a time when that was good advice.

01:22:34.000 They're operating in a completely different world.

01:22:37.000 Like that, that generation is used to a completely different world where that advice made really good sense.

01:22:41.000 It's like that meme, the world you were raised to grow up in no longer exists or whatever.

01:22:46.000 I mean, that's true.

01:22:47.000 There was a time when, yes, just setting aside some extra money from luxuries you might have purchased instead could probably save you enough for a down payment for a house or whatever.

01:22:56.000 It's just, that's not the case anymore.

01:22:57.000 But we do get to go to the next story.

01:22:59.000 Okay, cool.

01:23:00.000 Sorry, we really got to go to the next story here.

01:23:03.000 A judge orders the release of 600 migrants swept up in ICE's Midway Blitz operating in Chicago.

01:23:03.000 This is a fun one.

01:23:10.000 So we just saw yesterday that Trump was informing us that crime had dropped because, believe it or not, putting the people who commit crimes in cages stops them from being able to commit crimes outside those cages.

01:23:23.000 And the socioeconomic factors didn't grab other people and force them to commit the crimes.

01:23:28.000 But some judge decided that they were going to release a bunch of the people who were swept up in that blitz.

01:23:34.000 And by the way, you might claim these things are unrelated.

01:23:37.000 And, you know, yes, this is Midway Blitz, but these are migrants and not necessarily people who are out breaking the law.

01:23:43.000 No, come on.

01:23:43.000 These are, in many cases, the same people.

01:23:45.000 People who come into the country illegally don't respect our nation's laws.

01:23:49.000 We also know that most crimes are committed by repeat offenders, or at the very least, that a huge percentage of crime is committed by repeat offenders.

01:23:56.000 And if you lock those people up, they stop.

01:23:57.000 Or if you send them out of your country, they stop.

01:24:00.000 But we're going to read the opening of this article.

01:24:02.000 More than 600 people who are arrested by ICE as part of its Operation Midway Blitz in Chicago are to be released.

01:24:07.000 A federal judge has ordered.

01:24:09.000 District Judge Jeff Cummings issued the release order on Wednesday morning following a lawsuit brought by civil rights groups against ICE and a U.S. Customs and Border Patrol.

01:24:19.000 I mean, in the civil rights regime, it is just insane.

01:24:21.000 Literally anything anyone does to try to protect the country can somehow be called racism by someone and they're going to claim it's a civil rights violation.

01:24:28.000 This idea of the left calling everything racist when they don't like it, it has broader implications than rhetorical effectiveness or ineffectiveness once the words lose their power.

01:24:37.000 This is actually something that's brought to a matter of law.

01:24:41.000 At least 615 people are to be released by Friday, November 15th, and must make bond by November 21st, the order stated.

01:24:48.000 The lawsuit brought by the National Immigrant Justice Center.

01:24:51.000 They're not immigrants.

01:24:52.000 They're illegal alien invaders, but I digress.

01:24:54.000 And the ACLU alleged that federal agents violated a 2022 settlement agreement over warrantless arrests in Chicago and the surrounding area.

01:25:02.000 What do you guys think of this story?

01:25:04.000 What do you think is going to happen to Chicago as a result of these migrants being released or these illegal aliens that ICE arrested being, I mean, alleged illegal aliens, I suppose.

01:25:11.000 To be clear, allegedly, maybe there's someone who was, or some of them were, I don't know the legal status of the people arrested is what I'm saying.

01:25:18.000 I assume that ICE goes out and arrests people who aren't here legally.

01:25:22.000 I don't know the basis for the lawsuit.

01:25:23.000 Trump has like a fantastic argument to the people calling him racist now.

01:25:27.000 They're like, you know, you're a racist.

01:25:28.000 You're having all these people arrested.

01:25:29.000 He's like, have you seen how many H-1B visas I'm bringing in?

01:25:32.000 Like, how can you like that would blow their minds, right?

01:25:36.000 The average Democrats is like, oh my gosh, he's actually bringing people in from other countries.

01:25:40.000 They must all be from Eastern Europe because he would only bring white people in.

01:25:43.000 This is the real great replacement is just replacing the people they deport with H-1Bs.

01:25:47.000 Like, all right, you go, you come in.

01:25:49.000 You were wrong the whole time.

01:25:50.000 That's right.

01:25:51.000 Yeah.

01:25:51.000 Well, what I will say about, you know, I think there's two major points.

01:25:56.000 The people who file these lawsuits, the National Immigration Justice Center and the ACLU, these people do not care one lick, you know, the status of the people.

01:26:06.000 Their point, their strategy is coordinated.

01:26:09.000 We knew what the strategy was going to be.

01:26:10.000 It's the same strategy they always have to slow Trump down, to nick at him with a thousand lawsuits in every single jurisdiction he's doing this in.

01:26:19.000 Their goal is to do this day in and day out to break down their resolve.

01:26:22.000 And I hope Tom Homan and Stephen Miller and the good people in the Trump administration wake up tomorrow more, you know, more fired up than ever to keep this going because their strategy is to use the NGO swarm on the left that I bet we could look up and see a ton of government money going to the National Immigration Justice Center.

01:26:44.000 We are funding our own demise here.

01:26:47.000 And I think that we need to do a better job of keeping up the pressure.

01:26:51.000 Well, one question I have is like when we're talking about the immigration issue and people who didn't come here legally, like, are they illegal aliens or are they just friends we haven't made yet?

01:26:59.000 They're illegal aliens.

01:27:01.000 It depends on what reality you step into.

01:27:03.000 That's right.

01:27:04.000 Different dimensions.

01:27:05.000 There's different answers.

01:27:06.000 Yeah.

01:27:06.000 I guess it's a fair point.

01:27:07.000 Well, yeah, federal judge from alternate dimension rules that Trump must halt arrests of illegal aliens.

01:27:12.000 Yeah, like you said, they're just going to do death by a thousand paper cuts.

01:27:15.000 They're going to try to prevent the administration from operating or governing with any level of effectiveness.

01:27:19.000 Very frustrating, Talos all this time.

01:27:21.000 I think I couldn't have said it better than you did.

01:27:23.000 We just hope that some of the people in his administration who are known for being bulldogs actually stand up against this and get something done because this is getting really ridiculous.

01:27:30.000 Do you think there's justification for martial law in situations like this?

01:27:35.000 I guess it depends on what you mean.

01:27:36.000 Like, do I like the idea of martial law?

01:27:39.000 No.

01:27:40.000 But also, does the federal government have a right or role or responsibility to prevent states that are literally usurping the role of the federal government by disobeying its laws?

01:27:50.000 We've literally done this before.

01:27:52.000 I mean, you know, so we had some states in the South, not West Virginia, but other states that decided that they didn't want to listen to the president of the United States.

01:28:02.000 And there were some pretty big repercussions for that.

01:28:06.000 You know, one of them being, you know, actually, you know, actually going in, you know, I mean, the entire 20, 30-year period of Reconstruction was an effort to resolve a lot of these problems.

01:28:17.000 More recently, in the 1950s and 1960s, during the civil rights era, you know, we had Eisenhower, we had JFK sent tons.

01:28:27.000 I mean, he sent, he mobilized the National Guard, sent them in.

01:28:30.000 They had cities that were doing things far less subversive than what Chicago and a bunch of these other cities have done.

01:28:37.000 There's a ton of legal precedent for the president to do exactly what he's doing.

01:28:41.000 In fact, to escalate it.

01:28:43.000 And I guess that wasn't really martial law when they were sending the National Council.

01:28:46.000 Not martial law, but I mean, but using federal authority when cities were, you know, just straight up, you know, disobeying, you know, federal law.

01:28:55.000 Martial law, I guess I shouldn't soften that term because that would be like curfew at 6 p.m.

01:28:59.000 If you're out, you might get shot if you're out after six.

01:29:01.000 I don't want that world to be like that.

01:29:01.000 That kind of energy.

01:29:03.000 I don't feel like.

01:29:04.000 It hasn't been that way since COVID when the Democrat, when Tim Walz put in a curfew in Minneapolis.

01:29:10.000 There's those videos.

01:29:11.000 Do you remember these?

01:29:13.000 Like of the cops walking down the street during COVID, telling people to get back inside.

01:29:18.000 In China, they had, I think they had China and Minneapolis.

01:29:21.000 Oh, did they?

01:29:22.000 And the hotline you could call to rat out your neighbors.

01:29:22.000 Yeah.

01:29:25.000 Yeah.

01:29:26.000 Yeah, man.

01:29:27.000 That was only a few years ago.

01:29:28.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:29:29.000 I mean, nothing that Trump could do.

01:29:31.000 I mean, I won't say nothing, all right?

01:29:33.000 And I'll end up being surprised.

01:29:35.000 But there isn't that much that Trump could conceivably do that would be more draconian than the COVID lockdowns.

01:29:41.000 Yeah.

01:29:41.000 I used to call them shutdowns because we never were forced to stay inside.

01:29:44.000 They just told us to stay inside.

01:29:45.000 You kind of stayed forced to stay inside.

01:29:47.000 Some states had curfews.

01:29:48.000 I mean, the Democrats, I mean, the Democrats, they were, I mean, Newsom was arresting people going to the beach.

01:29:56.000 They were actually doing it in the blue states.

01:29:58.000 I mean, I think lockdown was appropriate there.

01:30:01.000 Like in China, from what I heard, they would weld people into their houses, like literally lock them inside.

01:30:08.000 Britain was, I think, like, it's, you know, I mean, there's been a lot that's been said about that.

01:30:13.000 But in the UK, I mean, they had people, they had to download an app.

01:30:17.000 And if they went more than three blocks from their house, like for like, they were only allowed outside their house for like 90 minutes a day.

01:30:26.000 So would you be comfortable with that for a situation of like getting illegal immigrants out of the country?

01:30:30.000 Yeah, we wouldn't need a lot of people.

01:30:31.000 I don't think we need to do that.

01:30:32.000 No, I don't think, I don't think, no, I don't, I mean, I don't think that's appropriate.

01:30:36.000 I don't think you need to.

01:30:37.000 I think that, I think that when you do have blue states, blue city specifically, I mean, Mamdani is already talking about like refusing to comply in New York.

01:30:47.000 I think that the president has an absolute right to go in and enforce federal immigration laws.

01:30:54.000 I mean, he was elected with a mandate to do this.

01:30:58.000 I think he's being overly cautious in his implementation of it.

01:31:02.000 I don't think that martial law is necessary.

01:31:05.000 I do think that stronger use of force is absolutely appropriate.

01:31:08.000 Yeah.

01:31:09.000 And of course, any attempt Trump makes at enforcing any federal law is going to be called martial law by the left.

01:31:13.000 That's it.

01:31:14.000 Well, that's the point, right?

01:31:15.000 Like the question they keep asking is like, why does he keep half-stepping it when they're going to call him names and tell him that he's a fascist anyways?

01:31:22.000 He's got to resist it.

01:31:23.000 That's the, it's a rules for radicals, Saul Olinski.

01:31:27.000 They call you fascist until you actually become one.

01:31:29.000 They, they, you know, it's, it's a goal of theirs is to keep saying you're the demon.

01:31:33.000 And then finally, when you're like, okay, you want to play the game?

01:31:35.000 Fine.

01:31:35.000 I'll be the demon.

01:31:36.000 Yeah.

01:31:37.000 And the other aspect of this that I think is really interesting.

01:31:40.000 And I actually wouldn't be surprised if this is going on in Memphis and some of the, you know, so like there's like Memphis is an interesting case where it's clearly a Republican state, but a blue city where, you know, the president has gone in and has been very aggressive.

01:31:57.000 I think that they're, I think that what we're seeing, so, you know, we mentioned the NGOs there.

01:32:03.000 There's very clearly, you know, super strong coordination amongst these NGOs, which we saw during the Biden era and that we're seeing in tons of other areas of state governance.

01:32:14.000 You know, it's the area I like to call the shadow government of NGO networks that effectively run these state governments, whether they're red states, blue states.

01:32:26.000 These are government entities, you know, that are funded by the government, but are separate private organizations that effectively will come in and run government departments, whether you're talking about, you know, the civil rights era or whether you're talking about transportation, education, the shadow government of the states is a real thing and they coordinate very effectively.

01:32:49.000 This is like your specialty line of work, actually.

01:32:51.000 It is.

01:32:52.000 Covered a bunch of NGOs that are funding states to do what?

01:32:55.000 Get on board with like uniform thought.

01:32:58.000 Yeah.

01:32:58.000 So, you know, it's really interesting.

01:32:59.000 So, you know, we're here in West Virginia.

01:33:01.000 You have, you know, everyone knows California and New York are super liberal.

01:33:07.000 People think that, you know, Texas, Florida are super conservative.

01:33:11.000 When you actually get into it, these NGOs that I'm talking about, the shadow government, which you can find on our website, stateleadership.org.

01:33:21.000 These organizations that we itemize in here represent every single function of state government.

01:33:27.000 Local government as well.

01:33:28.000 We're focusing on the state level.

01:33:30.000 Every single department of every single state government has an organization that represents that function that is national and operates as a coordinating mechanism between all the states that ends up creating, you know, so why you have DEI in Texas the same way you have DEI, you know, in Illinois.

01:33:50.000 It's because of these national coordinating organizations.

01:33:54.000 Is it federally funding NGOs to create a problem that they can solve?

01:33:59.000 Like sometimes they say the homeless epidemic, if they you don't really want to solve it because you're making so much money.

01:34:03.000 Is it the same thing with immigration?

01:34:05.000 No.

01:34:05.000 So, you know, it's really interesting.

01:34:06.000 It's actually all, I mean, most of these are state-funded organizations.

01:34:10.000 So the state is paying membership dues, these organizations, and they end up, they end up causing this, you know, they end up coordinating and they end up furthering their radical left agenda and they end up actually like increasing, you know, funding for themselves.

01:34:26.000 I mean, it's like the self-licking ice cream cone problem.

01:34:29.000 But that's what these organizations do.

01:34:32.000 What, you know, and whenever we're clear, to be clear about this, you know, we have the organizations focused on civil rights.

01:34:37.000 They have these organizations focused on state parks, you know, making sure that state parks are welcoming to immigrants.

01:34:47.000 Like that's like an actual program that they have like an NGO focused on.

01:34:52.000 That sounds like one of those USAID programs that we were hearing about.

01:34:56.000 It's that level of silliest, most like NPR sounding thing you've ever heard in your life.

01:35:01.000 It absolutely is.

01:35:02.000 Oh, but it's state, but they've broken it apart into smaller things.

01:35:04.000 So people are like.

01:35:05.000 There are literally hundreds of separate orgs that do all of this stuff, really super niche so that you would never have any reason to ever remember it.

01:35:12.000 Oh, it's so tempting to think this stuff's boring and irrelevant.

01:35:14.000 It's actually the Hydra.

01:35:16.000 Yeah.

01:35:17.000 It's literally, there are, there's probably a thousand of them.

01:35:20.000 Like if you were to add them all up, you know, our website, we have 25 the biggest offenders, you know, transportation department, Medicaid.

01:35:27.000 No one ever thinks of like the Medicaid department, the Medicaid director.

01:35:31.000 Literally, you know, have an organization of every single Medicaid director.

01:35:34.000 You know, this is a bureaucrat.

01:35:36.000 He's not even a political appointee in most states.

01:35:39.000 Medicaid director in every single state in America, they all meet up.

01:35:42.000 They all talk about and strategize how to insert DEI racial quotas into like they actually coordinate, you know, put this stuff out.

01:35:50.000 It's all public, but it's so boring, no one ever pays attention to it.

01:35:53.000 Do they do it slow?

01:35:54.000 Like, we're going to do it in Texas this month, next month.

01:35:56.000 Let's wait two weeks and then we'll implement it over here.

01:35:58.000 It'll make it look like a lot of people.

01:35:59.000 These have been going on for 100 years.

01:36:02.000 So most of these organizations have literally been around since like Woodrow Wilson.

01:36:07.000 So this is Federal Reserve, like fat.

01:36:08.000 This is how the fascists were trying to control.

01:36:10.000 This is like, this is, this is a, this is all progressive era organizations that were created by like Woodrow Wilson.

01:36:17.000 It's like a super wacky history.

01:36:19.000 What's the website?

01:36:20.000 People are like stateleadership.org.

01:36:22.000 You can download the reports right on the banner.

01:36:25.000 You know, and if you follow us at Red States Lead, like we talk about this every day.

01:36:30.000 So like this, I nerd out on this subject all the time.

01:36:33.000 So awesome.

01:36:35.000 Yeah.

01:36:35.000 Awesome.

01:36:36.000 Definitely check that out.

01:36:37.000 And wow, did you hear my, you hear that voice crack?

01:36:38.000 Most hosts would have just glazed over that, but I'm honestly glad it was.

01:36:42.000 I was like, hey, hi, go to the webinar.

01:36:45.000 All right.

01:36:45.000 Check out.

01:36:46.000 I only know how that happens.

01:36:48.000 And look into it.

01:36:49.000 Now we've got to go over to Super Chats.

01:36:51.000 And Ian, you need to get out of here.

01:36:52.000 You need to look at it.

01:36:53.000 Screw you too.

01:36:54.000 Leave out that door.

01:36:56.000 I've had enough of you, Seamus.

01:36:58.000 Yeah, crap.

01:36:59.000 Yeah, bro.

01:37:00.000 I'm going to do Inverted World.

01:37:01.000 Shane Cashman will be taking the night off.

01:37:03.000 I'm going to be going live with Brandon Miner at 10 p.m.

01:37:05.000 It's been 30 minutes.

01:37:06.000 So check us out.

01:37:06.000 If you stick around, if you're on YouTube, it's going to kick you over to that show.

01:37:09.000 Course, you got the after show with these fine gentlemen, but I think I'm, I think, I think my charisma speaks for itself, sir.

01:37:14.000 Oh, Federal 20.

01:37:17.000 Hey, guys, catch me on Inverted World Live.

01:37:18.000 I'll see you later.

01:37:19.000 Thanks, Sheamus.

01:37:19.000 Love you, big dog.

01:37:20.000 Good seeing you.

01:37:21.000 Always love having you on, man.

01:37:22.000 Really good to see you too, Noah.

01:37:23.000 That was awesome.

01:37:24.000 It was great to meet you.

01:37:24.000 Thank you.

01:37:25.000 Thanks.

01:37:26.000 The John Falcone channel said, Yeah, we did it, Sheamus.

01:37:29.000 Congrats from the Madcap Falcone parody band.

01:37:32.000 Glad to help.

01:37:32.000 God bless you.

01:37:33.000 Thank you.

01:37:34.000 It's incredible.

01:37:35.000 I'm again, I'm very humbled.

01:37:37.000 And God bless you guys.

01:37:38.000 And thank you so much for getting us there.

01:37:40.000 I mean, this is the best audience.

01:37:42.000 I have the best audience on YouTube, and there's a lot of overlap with the Tim Cast audience here.

01:37:46.000 You guys are awesome.

01:37:47.000 You guys are awesome.

01:37:48.000 Thank you for this.

01:37:50.000 Lurch 687 says, Trump has been such a disappointment in 2.0 that I don't think Republicans deserve to maintain the majority.

01:37:56.000 At least the left shows us who they are.

01:37:58.000 So here's the thing.

01:37:59.000 Even if you feel that way right now, and I get you.

01:38:01.000 I get where you're coming from.

01:38:03.000 The Republicans kind of have us in a bind because we know that the Democrats are so much worse.

01:38:08.000 And so it's like, all right, do you want to deal with a lighter version of what they're doing?

01:38:13.000 Or do you want to have to deal with us being feckless weaklings, basically, or not doing enough?

01:38:19.000 But I hear you.

01:38:20.000 I'm certainly sympathetic.

01:38:24.000 Hold on a second.

01:38:26.000 Read both.

01:38:27.000 All right.

01:38:28.000 Love you, bro.

01:38:29.000 You need to massage, Seamus.

01:38:33.000 All right.

01:38:34.000 SANZY on the way out.

01:38:36.000 File the report, Sheamus.

01:38:39.000 Good seeing you.

01:38:40.000 SA Federale says, of course, an Arch Con silverware thief.

01:38:45.000 Let me read this.

01:38:46.000 Am I seeing this right?

01:38:48.000 Of course, an Arch Con silverware thief thinks it's possible to make files inaccessible to the executive administration of those powerful country in history.

01:38:55.000 This isn't Shimcast, it's Sheamcast.

01:38:57.000 Firstly, firstly, I'm trying to give him the benefit of the doubt here.

01:39:00.000 And I'm saying, maybe something happened.

01:39:02.000 Listen, we know that generals were lying to Trump about stuff.

01:39:04.000 We know that a lot was kept from him in his last administration.

01:39:07.000 It was almost as if there wasn't a true transfer of power.

01:39:10.000 So it's not so much the executive administration.

01:39:12.000 It's the executive himself and whether or not he's being told what he needs to be told.

01:39:16.000 But that's just one side of it.

01:39:17.000 That's just one potential explanation.

01:39:19.000 Split says, Seamus, it's the Shim Cool show.

01:39:23.000 That is, is that better than Shimcast?

01:39:25.000 That might be what we have to go with.

01:39:27.000 Shim Cool is actually better, yes.

01:39:29.000 I like Shim Cool a lot.

01:39:31.000 I do.

01:39:31.000 David Toronto says, if it wasn't for Trump, nothing would get done.

01:39:34.000 How do you guys feel about that?

01:39:37.000 Look, I mean, whether or not Trump is delivering presently doesn't change the fact that the reason that Roe versus Wade got overturned is because Donald Trump's appointments.

01:39:49.000 The reason that the Voting Rights Act is in front of the Supreme Court is because of Donald Trump.

01:39:57.000 The reason that the affirmative action stuff got overturned is because of Donald Trump.

01:40:03.000 The reason that the border is closed is because of Donald Trump.

01:40:06.000 Every single criticism that people have about Donald Trump not doing enough, I understand and I hear you.

01:40:12.000 But the idea that things would be better without Donald Trump, that is completely wrong.

01:40:17.000 So I'll take it a step further than that.

01:40:19.000 We would all be in jail if President Trump did not win.

01:40:22.000 Don't worry, we would lose.

01:40:24.000 Yeah, well, maybe we will, but we would definitely be in jail right now if President Trump was not saved by God in Butler, Pennsylvania last summer.

01:40:33.000 And like, or I guess summer before last at this point.

01:40:36.000 But, you know, God bless Donald Trump.

01:40:40.000 We have like we before Donald Trump, we went through the doldrums, man.

01:40:45.000 I mean, you remember the time of Romney, McCain, like, like, that is not, like, that was, that was a miserable time to be a young Republican.

01:40:54.000 And God bless Trump for doing everything that he can.

01:40:58.000 I believe he's trying.

01:41:00.000 Damon Walker says, I want Tim back.

01:41:03.000 He's not coming back.

01:41:04.000 He left.

01:41:05.000 You think this is a fairytale world?

01:41:07.000 Tim's gone.

01:41:08.000 Stop thinking about him.

01:41:09.000 This is Shimcast.

01:41:10.000 Now, you're watching Shim Cool.

01:41:12.000 Don't worry about it, okay?

01:41:14.000 Grow up.

01:41:15.000 Get over it.

01:41:15.000 He's gone.

01:41:17.000 He's not gone.

01:41:18.000 The truth A. You don't think he's gone?

01:41:21.000 He's not gone.

01:41:23.000 We'll just see about that.

01:41:25.000 The truth A says the 400 Koreans, 400 plus Koreans, I'm sorry, weren't building batteries.

01:41:30.000 They were building the Hyundai battery factory.

01:41:32.000 Huge difference.

01:41:33.000 Americans can build a factory.

01:41:34.000 I agree with you.

01:41:35.000 And also, I know when you say Americans can build a factory, you mean Americans.

01:41:40.000 Because you'll see these videos home inspectors will do of new builds where they show you what these alien laborers have made and you go, oh, ooh, that play's going to fall apart in a couple of years.

01:41:52.000 Guy who is nailing in the screws.

01:41:57.000 C says Kofe.

01:41:59.000 Fair.

01:42:00.000 Fair point.

01:42:02.000 I agree with that.

01:42:05.000 That was my favorite.

01:42:06.000 That was my favorite response to the 50-year mortgage.

01:42:09.000 People just started saying that.

01:42:10.000 Yeah, during that video, be hammering houses for the last 50 years.

01:42:13.000 Maybe I don't want to own a home.

01:42:18.000 I'm sorry.

01:42:19.000 I'm going through a couple more of these.

01:42:23.000 Ooh, everything.

01:42:25.000 So Kick the Ball says everything we bring up or every everything we bring up, the horrors of Epstein.

01:42:32.000 We need to bring up the 320,000 children trafficked by our tax dollars under Biden.

01:42:37.000 Fair.

01:42:38.000 And here's the thing.

01:42:39.000 We don't want to engage in whataboutism.

01:42:41.000 So we can just talk about Epstein with talking about Epstein.

01:42:43.000 And we don't want to see the territory that this is like a right versus left issue.

01:42:46.000 Like the left is one.

01:42:48.000 We know how things were under Biden.

01:42:50.000 Don't let them turn this into Epstein is Trump's dirty laundry.

01:42:53.000 Now we have to talk about Biden's dirty laundry.

01:42:55.000 It's all of their dirty laundry.

01:42:57.000 It's all of their dirty laundry.

01:42:58.000 But you're right.

01:42:59.000 We should talk about what happened with the children moved around under Biden.

01:43:04.000 I think we should get to the bottom of that.

01:43:06.000 K to the Swiss says, Seamus, why didn't you talk with Andrew Wilson about the crystal prisons?

01:43:10.000 It's a thing on the Crucible directly referencing your 2024 election outcome video.

01:43:15.000 And then he has a thinking emoji.

01:43:17.000 What is there to wonder about?

01:43:18.000 Maybe I just didn't know that.

01:43:21.000 You haven't caught me in some grand conspiracy.

01:43:23.000 I wasn't aware of that.

01:43:24.000 But thank you for watching.

01:43:26.000 Thank you for being a fan.

01:43:27.000 I'm giving you a hard time.

01:43:28.000 Yeah, I didn't know that he talked about that.

01:43:30.000 That's funny.

01:43:30.000 It's unfortunate it didn't come up.

01:43:36.000 I got something to say for this one right here.

01:43:36.000 What's that?

01:43:39.000 Right here.

01:43:41.000 Oh, sorry.

01:43:41.000 We got to refresh.

01:43:42.000 We got to refresh.

01:43:43.000 We're going to read something.

01:43:44.000 That's why I stopped working.

01:43:45.000 I couldn't figure out what I was doing.

01:43:46.000 Okay.

01:43:47.000 Yeah.

01:43:48.000 Don't worry.

01:43:48.000 Like this one here.

01:43:51.000 So should I read this?

01:43:53.000 I'm not sure what he's saying.

01:43:53.000 Eric Shaver.

01:43:55.000 He says, all these fake content creators love to hate on crime.

01:44:00.000 Yet they all skew their views for sponsorship, which is advertisement revenue flaw fraud.

01:44:05.000 Exclamation point, exclamation point, exclamation point.

01:44:07.000 Listen, you've made a pretty significant accusation against us with absolutely zero evidence.

01:44:13.000 Secondly, even if that was the case, which it's not, this is ridiculous.

01:44:17.000 But even if that was the case, when you're alone in the middle of the night at an ATM, you're not checking over your shoulder to see if someone is like violating an advertisement law.

01:44:27.000 Okay.

01:44:28.000 This is an annoying thing.

01:44:29.000 When people bring Trump, when people go, you say you believe in law and order.

01:44:33.000 Well, Trump's a felon.

01:44:34.000 Bro, when I'm talking about law and order, I'm talking about violent crime.

01:44:37.000 I'm talking about the fact that people don't feel safe walking around at night in this country.

01:44:41.000 And it's not because they are afraid that there's someone nearby potentially committing a campaign finance violation.

01:44:46.000 Possibly.

01:44:47.000 Because they don't want someone to stab them.

01:44:49.000 You're at the ATM and Tim is behind you, like talking about Beam Dream.

01:44:53.000 And you're like, I don't know.

01:44:56.000 Tim is pretending to like Beam Dream more than he actually does.

01:44:59.000 What's going on with this city?

01:45:00.000 He's going to bed.

01:45:01.000 He's drinking something else.

01:45:02.000 I don't think he's drinking the Beam Dream, and that's not good.

01:45:08.000 James Johnson says we need a federal law requiring proof of citizenship to rent our own property.

01:45:12.000 I like that.

01:45:13.000 Yeah, I like that.

01:45:14.000 I think that's pretty good.

01:45:15.000 Yeah.

01:45:15.000 And there should also be a situation where if you don't have some kind of proof that you're a citizen and you are renting property, the owner of that property loses said property.

01:45:27.000 I'm a big fan of the people that hire illegal immigrants, people that rent illegal immigrants.

01:45:34.000 They should pay a penalty as well because that is an extreme, that would be an extremely effective means of keeping illegal immigrants out of the United States.

01:45:44.000 I think that's, I think it's an underrated point, particularly in, I think that when you look at where a lot of these, you know, these ICE raids have happened, I think that like you need to make sure that it's not like small businesses paying the price and you're just letting the Home Depots of the world go or wherever.

01:46:07.000 I mean, like, you know, not that, you know, not making any accusations to any particular company.

01:46:12.000 My point being, like, you need to make sure that large corporations are not like being given protection.

01:46:18.000 You're screwing over small businesses.

01:46:20.000 That's like, that's a major problem.

01:46:21.000 Fair.

01:46:21.000 Yeah, that was the first thing I was going to say, actually, when he said that I like a law like that, but you know, certain companies are going to be able to exempt themselves from that essentially by just having better lawyers and knowing how to find the loopholes, et cetera.

01:46:36.000 Jordan Buford is a very, very nice chap.

01:46:38.000 They said, Seamus, I believe you with the spoons, man.

01:46:41.000 Thank you.

01:46:42.000 I wouldn't do that.

01:46:43.000 He says, he said, Seamus, I believe you with the spoons, man.

01:46:47.000 You wouldn't do that.

01:46:48.000 We know you.

01:46:49.000 Thank you.

01:46:50.000 I was an atheist for over 10 years and you helped steer me to OCIA and I'm currently seeking baptism.

01:46:55.000 God bless you.

01:46:56.000 Thank you so much.

01:46:57.000 Thank you so much for that comment.

01:47:00.000 God bless you.

01:47:01.000 That's huge.

01:47:03.000 This one.

01:47:03.000 Are we allowed to read this?

01:47:05.000 Is this like YouTube TOS?

01:47:06.000 I don't know.

01:47:07.000 I don't see why I wouldn't.

01:47:08.000 I know, no, listen.

01:47:09.000 I'm fine.

01:47:09.000 I just want to make sure because I don't want Tim to come back and be aware of it.

01:47:13.000 I know.

01:47:14.000 But the thing is, I would make a joke like this on my channel.

01:47:16.000 I just am being a good steward over Tim's channel and I don't want him to get in trouble.

01:47:20.000 But if you don't, if that's not a TOS violation, I'm fine.

01:47:22.000 Okay.

01:47:22.000 Coupagon says, Haitians won't feel welcome in your parks unless you keep them stocked with geese, which is, listen, that's what they, that's their personal opinion.

01:47:30.000 Tim didn't say that.

01:47:33.000 Forced name change.

01:47:35.000 Oh, no, that's not really.

01:47:37.000 Hold on a second.

01:47:38.000 Yeah.

01:47:39.000 Do we have Rumble?

01:47:39.000 Yeah.

01:47:40.000 Sorry, there's a little, there's a couple issues with the interface here as we're trying to read some of these chats.

01:47:44.000 We apologize.

01:47:45.000 What's the one came up?

01:47:48.000 Rofflo 1804 said, Rip Beanie Man, long live Shimcast, long live Spoon Man.

01:47:52.000 Well, I'm not a Spoon man.

01:47:53.000 You know me, you know I wouldn't do that, but thank you so much for the long live Shimcast.

01:47:59.000 This is not the quiet part.

01:48:00.000 How can I read this?

01:48:01.000 Libels me.

01:48:02.000 This libel me.

01:48:03.000 Expect me to read this out loud when he's accusing me of a crime.

01:48:05.000 How many times am I going to be accused of a crime by a super chatter tonight, bro?

01:48:09.000 Hold on.

01:48:10.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:48:10.000 I'll read it.

01:48:11.000 I'll read it just so you guys know what I'm subjected to when I host this show.

01:48:15.000 The quiet part pod said, it's okay.

01:48:17.000 By the way, great aim.

01:48:18.000 I love it.

01:48:19.000 It's okay to tell the truth, Seamus.

01:48:20.000 Tim is in the same place you hid the spoons.

01:48:23.000 Yeah, Tim is with his spoons in his own house there of his own volition.

01:48:29.000 You know me.

01:48:29.000 Okay?

01:48:30.000 You know I wouldn't do that.

01:48:32.000 This is crazy.

01:48:35.000 The way that I'm smeared, I just come here to bring you guys joy.

01:48:39.000 I come here to bring you guys joy, and I just get insulted and made fun of.

01:48:43.000 It's because you're a guy, Seamus.

01:48:44.000 That's true.

01:48:45.000 That's a fair point.

01:48:46.000 Women have it so easy.

01:48:47.000 That's what I always say.

01:48:48.000 That's right.

01:48:50.000 Let me draw for a second.

01:48:51.000 Yeah, I just want to read this chat here.

01:48:54.000 AJ said, I say federally, anyone who gets a driver's license must be able to speak English and also demonstrate that they have a Y chromosome.

01:49:03.000 Well, that's really sexist.

01:49:05.000 They just said the English thing.

01:49:05.000 No, they didn't say that.

01:49:06.000 They said, I say federally, everyone who gets driver and gets a driver's license must be able to speak English.

01:49:11.000 And like, maybe, maybe even not, depending on the accent they speak English with.

01:49:15.000 There's like 50 years of propaganda from Hollywood that says that if you call into question the idea that somebody would speak English in America and that you would be upset by the fact that you couldn't understand them, that you're a bad person.

01:49:28.000 You know, when in reality, the real example of that in public is like somebody doesn't speak English and you feel bad, but you're like, look, I don't know what you're saying.

01:49:37.000 But if you were to be at a store and somebody's speaking to you and you don't know what they're saying, that guy in the movie is always portrayed as like, speak English, dude.

01:49:45.000 He's bad guy.

01:49:46.000 He's just some ignorant douchebag.

01:49:49.000 Well, this is, but this is, again, this is why we're making twisted plots because you have to have stories that reinforce positive values instead of trying to destroy your society's values.

01:49:57.000 And thank you guys so much for getting us funded.

01:49:59.000 God bless you.

01:49:59.000 And this is going to make sure the guy telling you to speak English is cool.

01:50:03.000 Speak English.

01:50:05.000 So this is the thing.

01:50:07.000 Yeah, no, I agree.

01:50:08.000 And that is a huge, huge part of the problem.

01:50:11.000 It's the way that the media portrays these things.

01:50:14.000 We're all aware.

01:50:14.000 We all know.

01:50:16.000 The real ones know.

01:50:17.000 If you want a functioning country, the people there need to be able to speak the language.

01:50:23.000 Stevie Smoo says the stock market don't represent our pockets.

01:50:29.000 Again, I agree with you.

01:50:30.000 I agree with you to an extent.

01:50:32.000 Obviously, it's like, I don't like this idea that GDP and stock market prices have zero correlation to well-being, but I think you're right that it's getting increasingly out of step, and especially for young people who don't have these assets.

01:50:44.000 So I totally hear you.

01:50:45.000 And I agree with you.

01:50:47.000 A lot of young people aren't able to buy in.

01:50:51.000 They're not able to get a house.

01:50:53.000 It's true with all the things we've been talking about tonight.

01:50:57.000 Okay.

01:51:00.000 James Johnson says the economy is in a neutral state.

01:51:02.000 The bleeding is being stopped, but the blood loss from the past is still there.

01:51:06.000 People are belly up from four plus years of paying their bills on credit and can't spare more.

01:51:11.000 Well, those were very violent analogies, and I found that a little upsetting.

01:51:15.000 But I'm curious what you guys think of this idea that they ultimately, James Johnson, thank you for chatting.

01:51:20.000 I think that's an interesting thought.

01:51:21.000 I haven't really heard it expressed that way, that we're in a neutral state.

01:51:24.000 What do you guys think of that?

01:51:25.000 I mean, maybe you could look at it like that, because like I've said before, inflation is a leader, and then wages have to catch up to inflation.

01:51:33.000 And that's why inflation is such a bad, such a excessive inflation.

01:51:39.000 And I use the term excessive in the context of the Federal Reserve looks at some inflation as normal.

01:51:45.000 Whether or not it should be is up for debate, but for the purposes of this conversation, excessive inflation is very bad because it takes so long for wages to raise to the point where people feel like they can afford things again.

01:51:59.000 Yeah.

01:52:00.000 If you get 10% inflation for a couple years, you know, that's a massive increase in your spending.

01:52:07.000 And it takes time for the people that are working normal jobs to get the pay raises that they need so that way they can feel the way they felt before the inflation.

01:52:17.000 Kevin, in parentheses, syndrome six says Ian is partially right.

01:52:22.000 Reducing costs would help.

01:52:23.000 It's simpler than fuel, reduce regulation, simple as that.

01:52:26.000 Yeah, I think that's true.

01:52:28.000 There's some truth to it.

01:52:29.000 Obviously, it doesn't tell the full story, but I would agree.

01:52:33.000 We have a chat from Miss Kay saying, congrats, Seamus, on getting Twisted Plots funded.

01:52:38.000 Thank you so much.

01:52:40.000 Thank you guys so much.

01:52:41.000 God bless you all.

01:52:42.000 And this was the accomplishment of a lot of different people.

01:52:46.000 So thank all of you.

01:52:49.000 Patrick Bendig says not all corrections are crashes, but many corrections can lead to crashes.

01:52:54.000 What looks good on paper can fail in practice.

01:52:57.000 Idealism versus realism.

01:52:58.000 100%.

01:53:02.000 Interesting.

01:53:03.000 Interesting.

01:53:04.000 See if I'm over here.

01:53:05.000 Yeah.

01:53:06.000 Unrumble.

01:53:07.000 Yeah, sorry.

01:53:08.000 See, can you try to find a chat that doesn't accuse me of some kind of crime?

01:53:12.000 Change it to just fan funding on YouTube if you're still looking for super checks.

01:53:16.000 Hold on, hold on.

01:53:19.000 The quiet part pod says, it's not my fault you took it the wrong way, Seamus.

01:53:24.000 If you stole no spoons, then you clearly aren't responsible for Tim being gone either.

01:53:28.000 So this is what narcissists do when they insult you or accuse you.

01:53:34.000 They try to gaslight you into thinking that you were the problem the entire time.

01:53:38.000 Okay.

01:53:38.000 Follow me for more healthy relationship tips.

01:53:41.000 You cannot let an audience bully you like that.

01:53:44.000 It's not good for you.

01:53:45.000 It's not good for your mental health.

01:53:46.000 You got to maintain frame and stand your ground.

01:53:49.000 AJ says during a government shutdown, people about to lose their food stamps.

01:53:53.000 NYC literally voted who they voted for.

01:53:55.000 This is literally socialism failing before them.

01:53:59.000 Anyone have any thoughts on that?

01:54:01.000 I mean, if you give the government the power to provide you with all of the things that you need to survive, you're giving the government the power to take away all of the things that you need to survive.

01:54:01.000 It's true.

01:54:15.000 Yeah.

01:54:16.000 Yeah.

01:54:16.000 That's exactly right.

01:54:19.000 Trust me.

01:54:20.000 Let me see.

01:54:21.000 Yeah.

01:54:22.000 I'm curious.

01:54:22.000 I am.

01:54:23.000 The truth A says I'm a co-owner in a small construction company.

01:54:27.000 Trust me, I know what these failures do on.

01:54:30.000 They also drive down the cost of labor, but we double it when we're called to fix things.

01:54:36.000 That's right, man.

01:54:37.000 Buy once, cry once.

01:54:38.000 If you try to go for the cheapest version of something and it falls apart, you end up spending way more money in the long run.

01:54:48.000 Yep.

01:54:49.000 And we're just doing that on an entire economic scale.

01:54:53.000 Rascal1223 says Hood County, Texas veteran arrested by sheriff for posting a political meme.

01:54:58.000 Okay, I heard about this a day or two ago on Inverted World.

01:55:01.000 That's right.

01:55:02.000 I don't remember the details of the story.

01:55:05.000 I wish I had.

01:55:06.000 I wish it had come to mind earlier so we could have brought it up on air and talked about it a little bit more.

01:55:11.000 Just pull it up right here.

01:55:12.000 Yeah, this is from the Texas scorecard.

01:55:14.000 After meme arrest, Hood County Sheriff solicits more social media complaints.

01:55:18.000 Sheriff Deeds' announcement comes days after a citizen was arrested for a social media post.

01:55:24.000 Crazy, dude.

01:55:24.000 Nah, good.

01:55:27.000 He's here now.

01:55:27.000 What was that?

01:55:28.000 Let's read this home.

01:55:30.000 Well, the crime that he was arrested for.

01:55:32.000 From what I heard last night, it's actually ridiculous that this person's arrested.

01:55:35.000 But let's read this just to see if there's context in it.

01:55:38.000 But that gives me seen context.

01:55:40.000 Hood County Sheriff Roger Deeds encouraged citizens to come forward if they felt they had been victimized by social media posts.

01:55:46.000 This followed the sheriff's arrest of a citizen for posting a meme.

01:55:49.000 In his November 10th announcement, Sheriff Deeds wrote that much of what is posted online is protected by the First Amendment.

01:55:57.000 Gotta have that book.

01:55:58.000 I took a trip to the UK and was just like, let's go.

01:56:00.000 Yeah, let's do it.

01:56:02.000 Yeah, these acts may sometimes constitute a criminal offense, such as the example below from a recent notable case.

01:56:07.000 All right.

01:56:08.000 I hope you guys are ready for this because this was explained to me by a wonderful caller on Shane Cashman's show the other day, and it's wild.

01:56:16.000 Deeds cited Texas Penal Code 33.07, which criminalizes impersonating someone online without obtaining the person's consent and with the intent to harm, defraud, intimidate, or threaten any person.

01:56:25.000 Last week, his office charged local activist Colton Krottinger with felonious online impersonation.

01:56:30.000 So this is a felony.

01:56:32.000 One of his bond conditions banned him from using social media.

01:56:35.000 And from what the caller said, that's how he makes his living is on social media.

01:56:39.000 Krottinger's attorney, Robert Christian, said his client was arrested for posting a meme that he'd never seen anyone get arrested for engaging in political speech in his 25 years serving as both a prosecutor and defense attorney.

01:56:49.000 Nate Criswell, former Hood County chair, said that Krödinger's post was satirical and the arrest was politically motivated.

01:56:56.000 In his November 10th announcement, Sheriff Deeds encouraged any pay, blah, blah, blah.

01:57:00.000 This, we keep hearing about the sheriff said.

01:57:01.000 I want to find the actual crime because I remember what this was, but I want to read it from the article so I can be sure.

01:57:07.000 What I was told, again, what I was told by the caller was as a joke, this guy photoshopped some politician endorsing someone they didn't actually like, and they're calling it felony impersonation.

01:57:21.000 That's let me double-check.

01:57:22.000 Let me see if this article actually mentions basically what happens to anybody when they get caught holding up a sign and then people just write different things.

01:57:31.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:57:32.000 They just write, yeah, it's a meme.

01:57:34.000 If that's the case, then the precedent was when what's his name was arrested for the Hillary Clinton, you know, the Hillary Clinton meme.

01:57:42.000 And that is terrible.

01:57:44.000 And we're going to see more of this as time progresses because of that precedent.

01:57:49.000 That's insane.

01:57:50.000 That's like, that's actually completely insane.

01:57:54.000 Mulgara85 says, what do you think about Trump going after Massey in particular for trying to release the Epstein files?

01:58:00.000 Don't love that.

01:58:01.000 Yeah, I don't like that.

01:58:02.000 Don't love that at all.

01:58:04.000 Yeah, I've cut this right here.

01:58:07.000 Hance, 1PK, says a lot of young people would rather get a $5 Starbuck each day than invest or get a house.

01:58:14.000 I disagree.

01:58:15.000 I think that that was good advice in the past.

01:58:17.000 I think with where the housing market is at now, listen, by the way, I encourage people to save.

01:58:22.000 I encourage people to put that money in your pocket or invest it instead of going to Starbucks because it's overpriced and it's crazy.

01:58:30.000 But where the housing market is relative to inflation and where it was 40, 50 years ago, it's just ridiculous.

01:58:38.000 It's much more difficult.

01:58:39.000 The level of income you have to have and where that income puts you percentage-wise with respect to the rest of the population to buy a house today is much higher.

01:58:47.000 And it's not, so it's not just young people who are like getting $5 Starbucks.

01:58:53.000 I don't think that that's the case.

01:58:54.000 But by the way, you, I mean, it's hard for, again, I can understand that advice, even like 20, even just 10 years ago, actually, before the COVID bailouts inflated all the housing costs and interest rates went down to zero and the prices shot up.

01:59:08.000 But I'm curious how you could hold to that opinion after seeing what happened to housing prices and interest rates in just the past five years.

01:59:17.000 Because now the interest payments on a just the interest payments on your loan are significantly higher for the same house, but the house is also twice as much money.

01:59:24.000 So do I have to like not buy twice as much Starbucks?

01:59:27.000 I just, I don't get it.

01:59:27.000 I don't get it.

01:59:28.000 Yeah, well, I think, I think like the real metric that you have to look at, which really shows just the insane level of the housing market, it's income.

01:59:37.000 So median income to median house price.

01:59:40.000 So you go back to like 1980 and it was like, you know, three to four times your house costs like, you know, four years worth of salary.

01:59:48.000 Now it's like nine to 11 years salary in some parts of the country is what the median home costs.

01:59:56.000 That's absolutely crazy.

01:59:57.000 You can't not Starbucks your way out of that.

02:00:00.000 Right.

02:00:01.000 That's exactly that's that's the I think that is the technical term.

02:00:04.000 So what it is what it's done to the next generation is like the you can't even visualize a world where you can afford it.

02:00:12.000 And that's what you get with Gen Z. We've covered this on the channel.

02:00:14.000 Like it's literally called treat culture.

02:00:16.000 They're like, look, I'm never going to own a home.

02:00:18.000 My life is miserable.

02:00:19.000 So I'm going to buy a sweet treat because I have to have something to look forward to so that I don't come home and just die of depression.

02:00:27.000 Well, I think that's when people don't have meaning, they seek out these short-term pleasures.

02:00:31.000 So I don't think it's the case that these young people are spending their money in stupid ways and that's why they don't have houses.

02:00:37.000 I think they're spending money in stupid ways because they don't have houses because they know that that market is closing.

02:00:43.000 And it doesn't make the advice you gave bad.

02:00:45.000 Like it doesn't make the advice to make your coffee at home and be frugal bad.

02:00:49.000 It's not.

02:00:50.000 It's absolutely good advice.

02:00:51.000 And these young adults just got done spending $50,000 a year going to college.

02:00:56.000 That's right.

02:00:57.000 Graduating with $200,000 in debt that they have no prospect, and then they're not getting a job, you know, even though they did what every boomer in the world told them to do, which is go get a STEM degree.

02:01:08.000 I mean, somebody with an H-1BVs is going to get it.

02:01:10.000 And to be clear, it's a jet-like, I know we dump on boomers sometimes.

02:01:15.000 My parents are super awesome boomers.

02:01:17.000 The reality is, the advice that boomers are giving, it was good advice when they were growing up.

02:01:22.000 That's the only advice you can give.

02:01:24.000 You can give people advice for the world that they grew up in.

02:01:26.000 The reality is, that advice doesn't work anymore.

02:01:30.000 Some of it does, but a lot of it doesn't.

02:01:31.000 Little do you guys know?

02:01:32.000 I just showed up here one day with my resume and I gave Tim a firm handshake.

02:01:38.000 That's exactly right.

02:01:39.000 He's like, I like the cut of this guy's jib.

02:01:40.000 I'm going to hire him.

02:01:41.000 Yeah, that, my friends, is what you do in a healthy economy.

02:01:44.000 All right, guys, it was great having you all here.

02:01:48.000 We're going to head on over to the members-only section in a moment here where we use bad words.

02:01:53.000 And I know Noah is just waiting to rattle off a list of awful, awful words and swears and bad language.

02:02:01.000 But I'll let you speak for yourself first and sign out with whatever it is you want to sign out with and plug whatever it is you want people to see.

02:02:07.000 Thanks, guys, so much.

02:02:09.000 Thank you for having me.

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02:03:19.000 I'm the creator of Freedom Tunes.

02:03:21.000 I don't believe a civilization is going to continue to exist for very long if all of its stories are told by people who hate it because story is the number one way that people learn about the world.

02:03:31.000 And for decades, our culture has been chipped away with by leftist propaganda.

02:03:35.000 And that's why myself and my team decided that we were going to step out and create something new and create something larger than we'd ever made before with twisted plots, a new animated anthology series, which communicates a right-wing message, not through ham-fisted monologues or preaching, but good stories and funny jokes.

02:03:49.000 I want to thank all of you for getting us fully funded because as of today, thanks to your incredible generosity and the outpouring of support we've received, we are fully funded.

02:03:59.000 We have passed that finish line.

02:04:01.000 I believe we're at over 101% now.

02:04:04.000 So if you still want to claim perks, you can go over and watch the pilot, those kinds of things, because it's still open for another day.

02:04:11.000 But ultimately, I want to thank you guys.

02:04:13.000 God bless you.

02:04:15.000 This is huge.

02:04:16.000 I will see you on the after show to me.

02:07:06.000 Yeah.

02:07:07.000 Oh, yeah.

02:07:08.000 Yeah, we were talking about Sonic Fox, he's like a furry esports pro who Nike hired for an ad campaign.

02:07:16.000 And we had a whole argument about whether esports is a sport or not.

02:07:19.000 Is professional gaming a sport?

02:07:22.000 Phil?

02:07:23.000 What?

02:07:24.000 Is professional gaming a sport?

02:07:27.000 No, it's gaming.

02:07:28.000 There you go.

02:07:28.000 It's professional and it's legitimate, but that doesn't mean that it's actually a sport.

02:07:33.000 Mary was like, I was being the contrarian, like, you know what?

02:07:36.000 Great hand-eye coordination, strong reflexes.

02:07:39.000 It's a sport.

02:07:41.000 They're called esports.

02:07:43.000 Technically.

02:07:44.000 So I think Formula One, so like racing apparently is the most like the closest to the actual sport because you're doing the same body movements.

02:07:58.000 It's like, you know, so they've actually transitioned people from gaming to the actual sport.

02:08:05.000 There was a movie called Gran Turismo based on the real world tournament that turned somebody into a pro driver.

02:08:11.000 There you go.

02:08:11.000 That's great.

02:08:12.000 Yeah.

02:08:12.000 It's happened to me.

02:08:13.000 That's the closest.

02:08:14.000 Yeah.

02:08:14.000 Yeah, I know people are going to take issue with this, but I mean, I think that auto racing is very loosely a sport.

02:08:21.000 I mean, like, so I've talked to Cam a lot about it, and he's talked about the physical intensity of doing what he does, meaning that you have to be able to control your breathing, you have to have strong, you have to be very much Formula One drivers are Olympic-level athletes.

02:08:37.000 Yes, yeah, they are.

02:08:40.000 I mean, and like, you know, they're spending two hours at, I mean, they're going five G's lateral, you know, that entire time.

02:08:49.000 They come out, they've lost two pounds of water weight, you know, over the course of an entire race.

02:08:55.000 Like, you know, I think that is, I think, probably the rest of racing probably isn't nearly like that.

02:09:00.000 Doing incline treadmill for two hours, except for you could die at any moment going 200 miles an hour.

02:09:07.000 I have to read this chat.

02:09:08.000 Brettling said driving race cars is extremely physical and more of a sport than baseball.

02:09:13.000 And then in the parentheses, they say, which is not a sport.

02:09:18.000 Oh, my God.

02:09:19.000 I've heard a lot about this.

02:09:20.000 Like, their heart rate can go up.

02:09:22.000 Like, here it says 170 BPM.

02:09:24.000 Yeah.

02:09:25.000 This bullshit saying recovering, you shouldn't include that.

02:09:27.000 Yeah, but that's like, that's what happens when I talk to a girl.

02:09:29.000 Isn't that a sport?

02:09:30.000 Yeah, but it's not only that.

02:09:31.000 It's like it's keeping yourself focused on what you're doing and controlling the car and everything like that.

02:09:36.000 So the thing is, but here's what you guys got to understand.

02:09:40.000 I have anxiety issues, and making a phone call puts me in the same physical state that Formula One kids with some of these.

02:09:48.000 You guys don't call.

02:09:50.000 Because you don't understand.

02:09:51.000 You judge what you can't understand.

02:09:53.000 And when I have to make a phone call, it puts me in the exact same physical discomfort that Formula One earth.

02:09:58.000 And who can tell me that I'm wrong?

02:10:00.000 How on earth do you get talked into a microphone to literally tens of thousands of people here doing that?

02:10:06.000 And then talk back.

02:10:07.000 I can't make a phone call.

02:10:09.000 But it's different, you know?

02:10:11.000 Yay!

02:10:12.000 How about a sport where it's car racing, except for you're just a guy and the woman is driving, and you have to watch all the time?

02:10:20.000 It's really funny.

02:10:21.000 Oh, my gosh.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - November 13, 2025

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