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00:04:16.000 So as you can tell, Tim Pool is out today.

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00:04:23.000 We've got some great guests tonight, starting with John Doyle.

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00:04:37.000 What's going on, man?

00:04:38.000 Wish Tim were here, but he is getting all of his teeth replaced with cybernetic implants.

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00:05:00.000 What's up, guys?

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00:05:03.000 So, you know, I'm your Tim Cast News producer.

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00:05:13.000 And Mr. Brown is holding it up.

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00:05:27.000 And I've been hosting the On the Culture War channel across the pond with Connor Tomlinson.

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00:05:44.000 So like we were saying earlier, Bijan Robinson has said a no-no word.

00:05:49.000 I got to pull up.

00:05:50.000 Where's the over here?

00:05:52.000 Yeah, okay.

00:05:52.000 So, oh, we're going to start with the Epstein stuff.

00:05:55.000 Yeah.

00:05:56.000 So they have released, I'm not sure who it has, who's released these photos, but more photos from Epstein Estate has been released.

00:06:04.000 And as usual, they're trying to smear Donald Trump.

00:06:07.000 The BBC is reporting.

00:06:08.000 BBC Verify has been analyzing the 19 photos from the estate of convicted sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, published today by the Democrats on the House Oversight Committee.

00:06:18.000 Using reverse image search, an online tool which matches an image to any previous versions on the internet, we've been able to confirm that at least three of the photos have been seen before.

00:06:26.000 One photo shows President Donald Trump alongside Epstein and a woman at an event.

00:06:31.000 This was taken at a Victoria's secret party in New York in 1997 and has been published by U.S. media.

00:06:36.000 Getty Images has different photos of Trump and the woman at the event and it identified her as model Ingwind Sainivan?

00:06:43.000 I can't pronounce that.

00:06:44.000 Anyways, another photo shows Andrew Mountainbat, Windsor, and Bill Gates.

00:06:49.000 We found the same photo on Getty Images and it was taken in 2018 at a summit in London.

00:06:53.000 King Charles can also be seen in the original image, but it was cropped out of the version published by Democrats.

00:06:58.000 Oh, dropped the king.

00:07:02.000 Dropped the king.

00:07:03.000 It seems to me that this is just more effort to smear Donald Trump.

00:07:07.000 Well, I mean, the fact that they crossed, so it's funny how it's so BBC, right?

00:07:12.000 They're under like official naming conventions here.

00:07:14.000 So you can't say Prince Andrew anymore because he's no longer Prince Andrew.

00:07:17.000 So you get Andrew Mountainbaton Windsor, but then King Charles is still King Charles.

00:07:23.000 But the Democrats actually cropped the photo of King Charles.

00:07:28.000 And this just reminds me, if you go back, that when James O'Keefe, and I always say this was the best scoop that James O'Keefe ever got, was that ABC.

00:07:38.000 Remember this ABC anchor when she was off air, but they had the footage of it because somebody leaked it to him where she was just saying, oh yeah, you know, we've got this whole story on Epstein.

00:07:48.000 We've got everything.

00:07:48.000 We've got the files.

00:07:49.000 We've got the Clintons.

00:07:50.000 We've got it all.

00:07:52.000 But then the royal family called and shut it down.

00:07:56.000 What do you mean the royal family called and shut down your story on Epstein?

00:07:59.000 And yet, once again, we get this protection of the royal family.

00:08:03.000 And yeah, you look at the, oh, we got a picture of Donald Trump from two decades ago.

00:08:09.000 Like literally before any of this came out, before the same story we've heard over and over and over, but suddenly they sit and play that, oh, it's a news picture.

00:08:17.000 It's like, okay, well, we knew that Trump was at the party that's already out there.

00:08:21.000 And okay, we found a picture of him and another guy at the party.

00:08:24.000 And what does that actually mean?

00:08:26.000 But they play this very low IQ game where, oh, this guy and this guy, and they act like it's all part of the same circle when it's two decades prior.

00:08:34.000 So I got a nephew that's 20, I think he's 21 now, and he actually just texted me a few minutes ago saying that they put on NBC and they were watching the news during lunch and that this release was talked about and they were talking about Donald Trump the entire time.

00:08:49.000 The whole point of this psychological operation.

00:08:51.000 Exactly.

00:08:52.000 It's just to link Donald Trump to Jeffrey Epstein in an effort by Democrats, clearly, to just to slime the president.

00:08:59.000 And what do you think, John?

00:09:00.000 I think that's absolutely correct.

00:09:01.000 You know, he became a household name in 2019 because that was, of course, during the first Trump administration and Democrats suspected that they'd be able to, as they're trying to now, tie it to Donald Trump, his friends, his administration.

00:09:13.000 And I think that we just need to give ourselves permission to understand that these people are not like accidentally moral.

00:09:18.000 They're not like accidentally like doing the right thing one time.

00:09:20.000 Like the same party infrastructure that wants to groom your children, that wants them to be, you know, undergoing these surgeries.

00:09:26.000 Totally fine with like everything evil, like the most evil things we've ever seen manifest politically in this country.

00:09:31.000 But this one time we're supposed to believe they're like actually getting it right and they really have their heart in the right place as they're going to, you know, release the freaking Epstein files or whatever, specifically because they view it to be correctly a vector of attacking Trump in language that his base is sympathetic to. 0.91

00:09:45.000 You know, you can call Trump a racist every day.

00:09:47.000 It's not going to work. 0.97

00:09:48.000 But all of a sudden you start talking about pedophilia.

00:09:50.000 That's something that we are obviously very concerned about because we see what happens in this country with child abuse.

00:09:55.000 Much of that, by the way, occurring because of who floods into the country through the southern border, which they couldn't, you know, care less about.

00:10:00.000 And so, yeah, it's completely disingenuous.

00:10:02.000 I don't buy any of it.

00:10:03.000 And I don't think that anything that these people are saying is true.

00:10:06.000 Yeah, the Democrat constituent, the base, they tune into Stranger Things.

00:10:10.000 The first episode watched like a child rape scene. 1.00

00:10:12.000 And they're like, by the way, yeah, Trump's a pedophile. 1.00

00:10:14.000 Yeah. 0.97

00:10:14.000 Yeah, we don't sit there and defend when I went on like a jihad against Netflix and Stranger Things when this all dropped. 0.97

00:10:21.000 And I'm like, it's very obvious.

00:10:23.000 This is hentai tentacle porn that has been put into Stranger Things.

00:10:27.000 And remember, that's a retcon.

00:10:29.000 So they're going back to season one, which means the age of the child is like, I think he's like 10, 11 when that season is supposed to take place.

00:10:36.000 And, you know, they used, you know, CGI to make him to de-age him.

00:10:39.000 And so you just see it going into his mouth and he's like sucking down the dark juices of Gay Darth Vader, who's the new bad guy in Stranger Things. 0.99

00:10:47.000 But apparently it turns him into, apparently it turns him into Gay Luke Skywalker later on in season five because he gets powers because of, again, he drank the juices. 0.98

00:10:54.000 But it's so disgusting.

00:10:56.000 And it's just like, it's just an obvious sense of, do you have that high disgust factor or not?

00:11:03.000 Like, are you actually clued into what you're watching?

00:11:05.000 And so I wanted to, I want to just respond to what John said because it was genius.

00:11:09.000 That what the Democrats are doing here doesn't actually mean that they are better.

00:11:16.000 It actually means that they are cynical because they're so cynical that they'll use this.

00:11:20.000 And they'll always skip over the fact, and everybody skips over this fact, that it was Donald Trump who arrested Jeffrey Epstein.

00:11:26.000 It was Donald Trump's administration that put him in jail.

00:11:29.000 And if you believe certain theories, you might even think that Donald Trump had him killed in prison because, again, he was the one who did it.

00:11:36.000 He was the president when all of this happened.

00:11:38.000 Not saying he did.

00:11:39.000 I'm just like, if you are on that side, wouldn't it then follow by your own internal logic?

00:11:45.000 But there's also something really interesting that John said that I wanted to get to because this came up recently with Elon, when he was tweeting about this, that in in the sense of that Cinnabon worker who got fired and like oh, she said the n-word, she did this.

00:12:00.000 But then Elon was pointing out well, it's just a word and this is.

00:12:04.000 And then so one of the Democrats, one of these lib accounts, was coming at me talking about this saying, oh well, it's not, it's not acceptable under any context.

00:12:13.000 But the discourse on top of that was, well, wait a minute, you know, is a thought crime actually higher than an actual, real physical crime like pedophilia?

00:12:24.000 To the Democrats, it is.

00:12:26.000 To the liberals, it is.

00:12:28.000 In their moral infrastructure, their moral superstructure, they believe that saying a word that they don't like, a no-no word, which we're going to talk about in a minute, is actually worse than rape, murder, or pedophilia.

00:12:42.000 And this kind of gets into like the heat map meme where they try, which they constantly try to, this study where they try to debunk it and they try to claim that it's not true.

00:12:52.000 But it actually is true that they don't care about things that actually happen to people.

00:12:56.000 They care about thoughts and they care about feelings.

00:12:59.000 Well, the crazy thing about this is if there was a smoking gun, they would have dropped that years ago.

00:13:05.000 The Biden administration would have never let that go.

00:13:08.000 If they had anything on Trump about this, it would have been front and center.

00:13:12.000 It would have been an extra charge to the rest of his charges that they hit him with when he was running for president back in the day.

00:13:17.000 And even now, you know, they keep dropping photos from days past.

00:13:21.000 If there was any legitimate, any legitimacy to these allegations about Trump, we would have seen it by now.

00:13:28.000 No Democrat would have ever dropped this and let that down.

00:13:31.000 So, you know, I don't know what's going on with this, but it's just like you have nothing.

00:13:35.000 And even Trump says that you have nothing because you would have used it against me.

00:13:39.000 Yeah, to the, Serge, if you could bring up the picture again, the headline, the only point I want to make is, you know, the BBC has blocked out, what is it, six women in this?

00:13:49.000 And the whole point of doing that is to imply that they're underage.

00:13:54.000 If it wasn't for the fact that they're trying to, you know, make the viewer feel a certain thing, they would just put these people in, put their faces on there without a problem.

00:14:05.000 Right.

00:14:06.000 Yeah.

00:14:06.000 What is actually happening here, like the, the op that we are all witnessing is you've got a very big problem if you're a Democrat.

00:14:12.000 If you're Tim Walz right now, like you're shaking in your boots, right?

00:14:15.000 Because you're seeing polling where young men have shifted something like, what, 40 points to the right in just the last few years.

00:14:20.000 If you're a Democrat, you're not putting that toothpaste back in the tube.

00:14:23.000 You're not going to convince these young guys that they actually should go back to being like peak woke 2020, posting black squares.

00:14:30.000 It's never going to happen.

00:14:31.000 All the bad stuff happened in their formative years.

00:14:33.000 Exactly.

00:14:33.000 So how do you solve that problem?

00:14:35.000 Well, perhaps you should consider because you're still the Leviathan, right?

00:14:38.000 You still have all this money, all this institutional power.

00:14:41.000 You just can't keep running the same play.

00:14:43.000 It's clearly not working.

00:14:44.000 Okay, so now what do you do?

00:14:45.000 You use their momentum against them.

00:14:46.000 You push them over their own skis, which is to say, I'm not going to censor you anymore because that clearly didn't work.

00:14:51.000 What I'm going to do is I'm going to say, you're so right about all these crazy things.

00:14:55.000 Actually, you're more right than you even think.

00:14:57.000 You are so correct that Donald Trump is actually one of these Epstein guys.

00:15:00.000 Donald Trump is actually a slave to that Israel thing you just found out about five minutes ago.

00:15:04.000 And so now you are actually so based and red-pilled that you shouldn't support Donald Trump and you shouldn't support JD Vance. 1.00

00:15:11.000 You should keep talking shit on Instagram. 0.99

00:15:13.000 And then I'm going to be so mad at you and defeated and I'm going to melt down about it on CNN. 1.00

00:15:17.000 Oh no, I'm so scared of young men.

00:15:18.000 And then you're there like, yeah, I'm really owning these people.

00:15:20.000 Meanwhile, the actual political project, which has achieved for us, every success we've had in the last 10 years, every deceleration of bad things in the last 10 years, they have convinced you to not support that because you're so freaking based and you know how the world works so well right now.

00:15:33.000 And then what is the manifestation of that?

00:15:34.000 You are opting out of the only political process that in your lifetime has ever actually worked for you.

00:15:38.000 That is the op right now that is afoot.

00:15:40.000 They're not worried about ideas.

00:15:42.000 They're worried about those ideas having consequences.

00:15:44.000 We've all gone through the YAF reading list.

00:15:46.000 Ideas have consequences, right?

00:15:48.000 If your ideas are not making it so that you cannot have consequences because you think the whole thing is corrupt, we just have to wait until the people wake up, man.

00:15:55.000 How's that working in South Africa?

00:15:57.000 How is that working in Brazil?

00:15:58.000 The people are not going to wake up.

00:16:00.000 We need to actually be the ones to enact political change.

00:16:02.000 And so insofar as social media trends, censorship, all that stuff is going on, these headlines, again, it is about appealing to Trump's base in language that they understand and saying, well, actually, Trump isn't bad because of these reasons that we made up in our head. 0.96

00:16:15.000 He's racist. 0.99

00:16:16.000 He's a xenophobe. 1.00

00:16:17.000 Now he's bad because of things that you agree with.

00:16:19.000 And people are falling for it.

00:16:20.000 And it is very bad.

00:16:21.000 Yeah.

00:16:21.000 Well, they also have these boomer NGOs that they can use basically as cannon fodder, like the royal family in this instance.

00:16:28.000 The left globally hates like the idea of a royal family funding.

00:16:32.000 They're against monarchy and it's totally.

00:16:34.000 And the royal family has been trying to basically gesture to them.

00:16:37.000 Like, no, no, no, we're innocent.

00:16:38.000 We're boomer NGO.

00:16:39.000 Like, you can pray.

00:16:40.000 You can tear up the Canterbury Cathedral.

00:16:41.000 It's not a big deal.

00:16:42.000 like don't worry about it we're good and it's like as soon as it means they can get at trump they'll like chuck the entire royal family under the bus because it's like convenient for them Meanwhile, BBC is like platforming like kneecap, who their entire, they're like LARPing like they're these like Irish revolutionaries and they're like going to war with the queen.

00:16:57.000 It's like, hey, the royal family hasn't been relevant in 100 years.

00:17:00.000 It was like, what are we doing here?

00:17:01.000 This is just an example of like they can just like totally grind these guys and they're just total cannon fog.

00:17:06.000 And the royal family would say that they agree with everything kneecap says except for the fact that the royal family shouldn't be the royals.

00:17:13.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:17:14.000 Well, and this goes to show you that no matter how much control the left has over a certain society, like they have over the UK, for example, and this is BBC.

00:17:23.000 And that's, you know, it gives us a window into this, the way that they're very specific about the titles and which words they use, that they will still act as if they are the victims.

00:17:32.000 So they will still act.

00:17:33.000 They could have total control.

00:17:34.000 And you see this in the Soviet Union, right?

00:17:36.000 They had total control of society.

00:17:38.000 They had total control of every single apparatus of society, the secret police, every stratosphere of society.

00:17:43.000 They use terrorism as a tactic against their own people to control their people. 0.90

00:17:47.000 And yet they would still say, oh, we're fighting the oppressive forces of tyranny.

00:17:51.000 We're fighting the oppressive forces of communism or capitalism.

00:17:54.000 We're fighting these oppressive forces from overseas when ultimately they aren't actually fighting anything.

00:18:00.000 You're the ones in control.

00:18:01.000 This is kind of like, I think, John, you and Aaron were talking about it on the Thanksgiving episode.

00:18:07.000 And this line that you guys did, and John is a great new podcast, which he has not promoted yet.

00:18:12.000 But I will.

00:18:14.000 But no, it's so good because it was that line about Christopher Columbus.

00:18:17.000 And they were like, I forget exactly, but they were like, every time a teacher brings up Christopher Columbus, they say, you know, I'm not supposed to say this.

00:18:24.000 And it's like, but he was actually a bad guy.

00:18:25.000 It's like, no, literally every teacher says that.

00:18:27.000 And like every show about him says that.

00:18:29.000 It reminds me exactly what he said.

00:18:30.000 Yeah, it's in, you know, I remember this very well because I just got out of the public school system like, I don't know, eight years ago or something.

00:18:36.000 But every iteration of American history, whether you're learning about it in third grade, eighth grade, or in high school, they always begin it by saying, now in America, we typically don't teach this, but, and then they teach it.

00:18:45.000 And so it's like, because if you're a liberal, you have to ignore the fact that all the most powerful people in the world pretty much agree with you and what you would like the world to look like or what they've convinced you that the world should look like.

00:18:56.000 You have to like rationalize how you want to be the revolutionary fighting the man while also controlling like every major institution, you know, the United States government, et cetera.

00:19:05.000 So the way they do that is just by telling themselves that like, oh, actually, we aren't allowed to teach this.

00:19:10.000 We have banned books.

00:19:11.000 You can get them at Barnes and Noble.

00:19:12.000 There's a big sign that says banned books.

00:19:14.000 You want to know how banned books go on the right?

00:19:16.000 They cost $1,000.

00:19:18.000 You don't even know if you're going to get them in the middle of the book.

00:19:19.000 A banned banned book is like, will I catch charges for having that?

00:19:26.000 Can I answer the EU with this?

00:19:28.000 That's a banned book.

00:19:29.000 My unhumans, parts of my unhumans book got banned in Spain.

00:19:32.000 Yeah, really.

00:19:33.000 No way.

00:19:34.000 He's doing something right.

00:19:35.000 It's all a lie.

00:19:36.000 And they have to frame it that way.

00:19:37.000 Happy Franco Friday, by the way.

00:19:38.000 Oh, there we go.

00:19:39.000 You need a Protestant Franco. 0.98

00:19:41.000 I think it's Trump, actually.

00:19:42.000 I digress.

00:19:42.000 Perhaps easy.

00:19:43.000 Yeah, my bad.

00:19:45.000 I'm a little fired up.

00:19:46.000 Some say Cromwell, but as a Catholic, I can't cosign.

00:19:49.000 I'm a Cromwell guy.

00:19:50.000 As a Catholic.

00:19:52.000 The hats were cool.

00:19:53.000 That buckle, everything was great.

00:19:56.000 So I think we're going to jump to this next story now.

00:19:59.000 And this is a little bit lighter fare.

00:20:01.000 B. John Robinson has said a no-no word. 0.94

00:20:05.000 I believe he was doing an interview and he said, smear the queer.

00:20:09.000 And then, of course, the Longhouse made him apologize.

00:20:12.000 Bijan Robinson tweeted, Hey, everyone, I want to apologize for the insensitive comment I made in the broadcast.

00:20:17.000 It was a football game we used to play as a kid, but that's not an excuse.

00:20:21.000 I recognize the mistake and make sure to do better in the future.

00:20:25.000 It was not reflective of my beliefs, and I am so sorry to those I offended seriously.

00:20:29.000 Now, you think the left and specifically the LGBT crew, they really do embrace the phrase queer, right?

00:20:38.000 Like it is a political identity.

00:20:40.000 It's more than just about your sexual or it's the cue.

00:20:43.000 Yeah, it's the cue in LB.

00:20:44.000 Every time this is the cue, it's right there.

00:20:46.000 Yeah.

00:20:47.000 So how is it that this is wrong for one side and right for another?

00:20:52.000 And I know I know the answer, but I'm interested in hearing your thoughts.

00:20:57.000 I don't know.

00:20:58.000 I just think that like whoever got mad at that is making a very betraying confession that they themselves were, you know, the queer. 0.91

00:21:04.000 They were the smeared.

00:21:04.000 Batman could not beat that confession out of me.

00:21:07.000 I would never have like a problem with that and indicate that I was the one being smeared in this circumstance.

00:21:12.000 So yeah, it's so much, I really am of the opinion, and this is not my idea.

00:21:15.000 I read this on Twitter and I'll regurgitate it because that's where all the best content is.

00:21:18.000 But someone said something like, you know, whether or not you had fun in high school is like the greatest predictor, not perfect, but the greatest predictor of how adjusted you're going to be in the real world.

00:21:26.000 And that's like when I see stuff like this where people are like, you know, you can't use that word to talk about this.

00:21:30.000 Like, again, it makes you wonder, what was their experience like?

00:21:33.000 Were they the one being smeared?

00:21:34.000 You know, were they sort of in that situation?

00:21:36.000 So I don't know.

00:21:37.000 It's all good.

00:21:37.000 Well, the queer.

00:21:39.000 And the way that we played Smear the Queer is the queer was actually like usually the top dog because you would have to win the ball over. 0.88

00:21:44.000 And then the longer you would hold the ball, that meant the better player you were.

00:21:48.000 So you actually wanted to be a queer for the longest time. 0.92

00:21:52.000 I'm one of the best.

00:21:53.000 Hey, San Antonio, Texas, I was one of the best queers in town.

00:21:56.000 The goal of the game was to be the queen. 1.00

00:21:58.000 In San Antonio, that's, you know.

00:22:00.000 Because there's some big old women down there. 1.00

00:22:02.000 They get involved.

00:22:03.000 It's over.

00:22:03.000 Yeah.

00:22:04.000 Yeah.

00:22:04.000 That river.

00:22:05.000 Yeah.

00:22:05.000 You still go down the river walk and you hear the name Tate Brown is just said over and over on everyone's lips.

00:22:10.000 That's that queer. 1.00

00:22:11.000 Oh, he's awesome.

00:22:12.000 Oh, yeah, Tate.

00:22:13.000 But he's one of the best.

00:22:15.000 They brought him queer. 1.00

00:22:15.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:22:16.000 We tried to smear him for years.

00:22:18.000 It couldn't be done.

00:22:18.000 Yeah.

00:22:20.000 I do want to point out that there was a time where people like to say that woke is dead, right?

00:22:24.000 They like to say woke is dead.

00:22:25.000 It's done.

00:22:26.000 And I think that this is actually a great example of the fact that it's never done, right?

00:22:32.000 The fight against the left doesn't end.

00:22:35.000 It's great to have victories.

00:22:36.000 You celebrate your victories.

00:22:37.000 You want to acknowledge them.

00:22:39.000 And when the right has power, you want to see them executing it.

00:22:43.000 But that doesn't mean that the left just says, is going to turn tail and say, oh, I guess we were wrong, guys.

00:22:48.000 And just crawl into a hole somewhere.

00:22:50.000 They're going to regroup.

00:22:51.000 They're going to push back.

00:22:53.000 And you need to make sure that you're holding your politicians accountable.

00:22:56.000 And you want to make sure that you're holding organizations like the NFL and like Netflix, like whoever.

00:23:01.000 You want to make sure that you're holding them accountable and saying, look, these are our values.

00:23:06.000 Stop crapping on our values and stop making it seem like we're wrong for having these values.

00:23:11.000 Yep.

00:23:12.000 Yeah.

00:23:12.000 I mean, it's certainly less insane than it was at the peak in 2020, but I think about it like, you know, you're conquering a city and in the process of conquering, you're seeing some pretty ugly stuff and it's like pretty intense.

00:23:22.000 But once it's settled down and they're just kind of peacefully governing the city, they're still in power and there's still consequences for stepping out of line, but you're not seeing guys get like, you know, executed or something in public.

00:23:31.000 So it's certainly not as bad as it used to be, but it's still, you know, well, yeah.

00:23:36.000 But I mean, I think that that's a great point.

00:23:37.000 Like, we've talked about how the left has been kind of pushed back, but in their, it's not their death throes, but as they lose ground, they become more aggressive and more feral.

00:23:46.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:23:47.000 And I think Charlie was a great example of that.

00:23:48.000 I always thought that, and I actually said that on the show a lot, but actually, Ornin McIntyre bring him up again.

00:23:52.000 He actually, he had a show yesterday.

00:23:54.000 I forget her name.

00:23:55.000 She does studies of political pilots.

00:23:57.000 Amy Powell.

00:23:58.000 I tweeted about it and listened to that too.

00:24:00.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:24:00.000 And she actually made the cases like, no, it's just ramping up, ramping up.

00:24:03.000 Whether there's a leftist in power, whether or not it's actually people with an in-group preference, when their person's in charge, they take it all.

00:24:08.000 They take it easy.

00:24:09.000 They're like, okay, we're good.

00:24:10.000 He's adhering to what we want.

00:24:13.000 But people with an out-group preference, they believe they're in constant rebellion no matter what.

00:24:16.000 It doesn't matter if their guy's in charge or not.

00:24:18.000 They're always perpetually in rebellion.

00:24:20.000 You should definitely.

00:24:20.000 So leftist violence is just no matter who's in charge, it's going to continue to get worse and worse until the state comes down.

00:24:24.000 It's not going to stop.

00:24:26.000 You always have to keep fighting back.

00:24:27.000 And if you give them an inch, they'll take a mile back, just like we see here.

00:24:30.000 So it doesn't matter how much we keep pushing back.

00:24:33.000 We can't settle down.

00:24:34.000 You have to keep on fighting.

00:24:35.000 That's what they do.

00:24:36.000 I want to point out that it's Arn McIntyre's podcast he does with The Blaze.

00:24:41.000 And the guest was Aiden Paladin.

00:24:43.000 And the overall show was about who's more violent, whether it be the left or the right.

00:24:47.000 And the overall synopsis is the left is actually more frequently violent.

00:24:52.000 They're less successful.

00:24:53.000 And that could be because they're less competent.

00:24:57.000 But you should watch the show and make the decision yourself.

00:24:59.000 Before we move subjects on this, on the Smear the Career story, that I was, so I've gone back and knows my wife wasn't born in this country, but so that also just means there's a lot of media that like she doesn't know about because she didn't, she wasn't here in the 90s.

00:25:16.000 She wasn't here.

00:25:17.000 Like she didn't know who Will Farrell was until like recently.

00:25:19.000 Lucky.

00:25:20.000 She just didn't know.

00:25:21.000 She just had no idea.

00:25:21.000 I had to show her stepbrothers.

00:25:22.000 You know, no, we've gone through like the entire cat.

00:25:24.000 We've gone through the canon.

00:25:25.000 It was great.

00:25:26.000 She loved it.

00:25:27.000 And so I'll go back and just find like older shows to say, oh my gosh, you've never seen this.

00:25:32.000 Let's sit down and watch it.

00:25:33.000 We did like Alf Seinfeld, Simpsons.

00:25:36.000 She had never seen Simpsons.

00:25:38.000 And the one we're on right now is Reno 911.

00:25:42.000 Oh, right.

00:25:43.000 And so I actually hadn't realized how long ago Reno started.

00:25:49.000 You know, Reno 911 is older than Tate.

00:25:52.000 A lot of things are older than Tate, but that does surprise me.

00:25:54.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:25:55.000 No, it started 2003.

00:25:56.000 That's right.

00:25:57.000 I'm a new gen man.

00:25:58.000 2003.

00:25:59.000 And those guys had shows that were even older, a lot of the same comedy troupe, those same actors.

00:26:05.000 And so the episodes that they made, which people remember this, that was not a controversial show.

00:26:14.000 That was not a show that there was ever this buzz around, like, oh, we should cancel Reno 911.

00:26:19.000 And they're like dropping N-bombs. 0.72

00:26:21.000 They talk about like literally everything under the sun.

00:26:24.000 There's swastika jokes. 0.96

00:26:26.000 There's jokes about Israel, Jewish people, like all obviously homosexual jokes and transvestite jokes, like all over the place. 0.95

00:26:36.000 In one episode, they have a they get two tickets to an execution. 0.84

00:26:41.000 And so everybody, everybody wants them.

00:26:44.000 So in order to win the tickets for the execution, they set up a scavenger hunt.

00:26:50.000 But there's a point system and you have to arrest.

00:26:52.000 Like they're like, they're like, okay.

00:26:53.000 And I'm just, I'm just going to say this because this was a normal like 10 p.m. comedy show in the mid-2000s or early 2000s, which was not, again, yeah, it was considered raunchy, of course, but it wasn't something that was considered like, oh, we need to pull that off the air ever.

00:27:10.000 Well, raunchy was allowed.

00:27:12.000 Raunchy was allowed.

00:27:13.000 And yeah, I'm watching it.

00:27:15.000 I'm like, there's my culture.

00:27:17.000 And there it is.

00:27:20.000 I wasn't making it up.

00:27:21.000 It was real.

00:27:22.000 It was all real.

00:27:23.000 And you were there.

00:27:24.000 And you were too.

00:27:26.000 And so in the scavenger hunt, it was like, okay, you have to get someone.

00:27:30.000 And they have to have an animal tattoo is like five points.

00:27:33.000 And then, you know, and if they have a racial tattoo, that's like 10 points.

00:27:37.000 And if it's a transvestite, that's 20 points. 1.00

00:27:41.000 And they go, best looking hooker in town, and that's 20 points. 1.00

00:27:44.000 And then at the bottom, they have the star at David. 0.88

00:27:46.000 And they're like, what's that for?

00:27:47.000 And it's, you know, it's dangled.

00:27:48.000 It's like, oh, it's double points if they're Jewish. 1.00

00:27:52.000 Oso starts a vintage aesthetics account on Twitter, but it's just like slurs from Reno.

00:27:57.000 Double points.

00:27:58.000 Double points.

00:27:59.000 And at the very end, it's, of course, Garcia.

00:28:00.000 He's got this, you know, this one suspect.

00:28:02.000 And they're like, they're like, okay, okay, I think that's, oh, wait, no, he's still under.

00:28:05.000 He's still, wait, wait, wait, pull it off.

00:28:07.000 And they've got a necklace of the star at David.

00:28:09.000 They're like, no, double points. 0.99

00:28:11.000 They're like, screw you, Garcia. 0.99

00:28:12.000 That tattoo is fresh. 0.99

00:28:13.000 That is fresh ink.

00:28:15.000 You just got that.

00:28:15.000 That's a ringer.

00:28:17.000 And then he ends up taking the hooker to the execution. 0.99

00:28:19.000 Oh, there you go.

00:28:20.000 But I mean, like, again, like, it's, it's hilarious. 1.00

00:28:23.000 It's, it's, like, stupid, funny. 1.00

00:28:26.000 Like, you know what I mean? 1.00

00:28:27.000 Like, it's, it's just poking fun at all the little differences between everybody.

00:28:31.000 And people would call it, some people call it casual racism or whatever.

00:28:35.000 But the idea that the idea that like an old Chris Rock bit, you know, that comp that this used to be the way that we sort of like lived in society together.

00:28:47.000 Like we have differences and we just laughed about it.

00:28:50.000 Yeah.

00:28:50.000 Casual racism implies the existence of ranked competitive race.

00:28:53.000 Everyone gets dished off.

00:28:56.000 Well, Carl Benjamin, Sargon of Akkad, he's made this point multiple times.

00:28:59.000 It's just bants, right?

00:29:00.000 It's just banter.

00:29:01.000 And it's banter.

00:29:02.000 Yeah.

00:29:02.000 Exactly.

00:29:02.000 It's how you can relate to someone that's actually different from you.

00:29:07.000 You make jokes.

00:29:07.000 Everybody gets their turn.

00:29:09.000 Everyone gets a little.

00:29:11.000 And I'm Polish.

00:29:12.000 So like, you know, like I grew up with it, you know?

00:29:14.000 But this is something that society used to embrace.

00:29:17.000 And our society, because the United States has so many different people from so many different backgrounds, even if you're only talking exclusively about white people, right? 0.98

00:29:26.000 It used to be the Italians and the Irish would give crap to the English and blah, blah, blah. 1.00

00:29:31.000 And it was totally fine. 0.98

00:29:32.000 It was, again, how you relate to each other and it was how you made sure that you could get along in a society where there were very different backgrounds.

00:29:40.000 And nowadays, the left has made that so toxic that you see people actually alienating more.

00:29:47.000 And you see people looking at each other's differences as something bad and something that you don't want to involve yourself with, as opposed to saying, okay, we're a little bit different, but we all kind of want the same things and we're all very similar in a mindset.

00:30:00.000 Well, they twist you up because it's like you can't say anything about the differences, but also you have to celebrate diversity.

00:30:07.000 Yeah.

00:30:08.000 Like, which is it?

00:30:09.000 And you wonder why people go nuts.

00:30:11.000 Yeah, a great example is Vince McMahon's World Wrestling Federation.

00:30:16.000 Like, think about like peak American unity in like, you know, 2002, 2000, 2001, where like Eddie Guerrero, like, everybody loved that guy.

00:30:24.000 John Cena put out a rap album.

00:30:26.000 Like, everybody was just like, everything was on the table.

00:30:29.000 Everything was fine.

00:30:30.000 And now you look at WWE and it's, I'm still, I'm not following it, but I understand that its audience has stopped being like just normal Americans.

00:30:37.000 And now there's a huge liberal presence in the fans.

00:30:40.000 They really have no tolerance for like the old Vince McMahon style of running.

00:30:43.000 I mean, he's not even at the company yet.

00:30:45.000 They're called the IWC, the internet, or was it Internet Wrestling Fans or something like that?

00:30:49.000 Yeah.

00:30:50.000 Yeah.

00:30:50.000 But like Vince McMahon, if he was going to say like, okay, I want to incorporate a foreign market, not because I care about foreigners necessarily, but because I'm a ruthless capitalist, we're going to bring in a guy from Japan.

00:31:01.000 Oh, is he going to be just like, what?

00:31:02.000 No, he's going to be like Yokozin. 0.76

00:31:03.000 He's going to be a big fat sumo wrestler.

00:31:05.000 We're going to bring in a guy from Iran.

00:31:07.000 It wasn't Japanese. 0.89

00:31:08.000 Oh, he wasn't?

00:31:09.000 No.

00:31:09.000 Okay.

00:31:09.000 So even better.

00:31:10.000 Like, yeah, we're just going to like, we're going to have Hulk Hogan, rest in peace, come out and he's going to be the big American.

00:31:17.000 He's going to go up against like this Iranian guy and it's going to be this huge like clash of worlds or an Irish guy. 0.96

00:31:21.000 He's going to come out and literally just be like the, so it was like acknowledging these stereotypes, not because it's like, hey, we don't, I mean, there probably was a little bit of nativism there.

00:31:29.000 There probably was a little bit of nativism there like in the American audience.

00:31:31.000 It's like, you know, we hate you.

00:31:32.000 But it was like part of it, you know, and you could acknowledge those differences.

00:31:35.000 And ultimately, it was fun, it was entertaining, and it was a good like pressure release valve from what otherwise is gonna, you know, be some serious headbutting when you're not allowed to do it.

00:31:43.000 When the rock for Dwayne Johnson, like when he first came out, wasn't he part of like what do they call that thing?

00:31:48.000 It was like a nation of Islam kind of thing.

00:31:50.000 You probably rocking my via.

00:31:54.000 And I can't remember off the top of my head, all the internet fans are going to be mad at me.

00:31:58.000 But like, but yeah, he was like one of the enforcers in this group.

00:32:03.000 And he came up.

00:32:04.000 My um, so my uh, the at Human Events, our executive producer, Angelo Fazio, and um, he's kind of said this publicly.

00:32:11.000 We've we've mentioned a few times.

00:32:13.000 He was um one of Vince McMahon's top um writers for like 10 years.

00:32:19.000 So I mean, he was very, very up in that, used to be the head writer raw, um, did like three WrestleManias, um, just worked with Vince very closely.

00:32:29.000 And, you know, I remember asking him, like, what do you think about the Netflix documentary?

00:32:32.000 He's like, I'm not watching that.

00:32:33.000 You know, it was awesome.

00:32:34.000 But I mean, he's uh, I've heard a lot of the tea.

00:32:36.000 I'll just put it that way.

00:32:37.000 I've heard a lot of the tea.

00:32:38.000 You know, to your point about the way that we relate to each other, you could watch WWE or WWF.

00:32:44.000 And one of the interesting things is even when like Sergeant Slaughter turned heel, right?

00:32:49.000 Like the guy that was supposed to be perfect American kind of like Americana military guy, and he still turned heel.

00:32:56.000 So it could, it was the situation where anybody could do anything at any time, whether it was, you know, it didn't matter what their back.

00:33:04.000 I'm still upset about Sergeant Slaughter betraying his country.

00:33:08.000 Name-dropping.

00:33:09.000 I didn't know we were with ball knowers here.

00:33:10.000 I know.

00:33:11.000 I mean, like, man, who's that?

00:33:12.000 That's an old guy.

00:33:13.000 I'm an old about like the heel turn is because you know, there's only so many ways you can do it.

00:33:18.000 Like, there's maybe like two ways, and you ultimately you want the audience to hate you.

00:33:21.000 So either you betray like a baby face and you out of nowhere, or you come out and you let your ego and you're like, you know, I did this all by myself.

00:33:27.000 There's like two ways you can do it.

00:33:29.000 And so now I'm seeing AI video audience where you'll have Martin Luther King come out and he's the WWE champion and he's got a mic and he'll be like, you know what?

00:33:37.000 I don't have any more dreams.

00:33:39.000 And everyone's like, what?

00:33:40.000 He's like, I am the dream now.

00:33:41.000 And they're like, and Michael Cole's like, he's turning heel.

00:33:47.000 Like, he's a bad guy or something like that.

00:33:49.000 He's so good.

00:33:51.000 It is.

00:33:52.000 But I do think that it speaks to the way that we used to be able to relate to each other and the fact that that's kind of gone away because of all the wolves.

00:33:59.000 Nation of Domination.

00:34:00.000 I just looked at it.

00:34:01.000 It was called the Nation of Domination.

00:34:03.000 And they were like a nation of Islam kind of, you know, look it up.

00:34:07.000 Look at front of picture Nation of Domination. 0.55

00:34:09.000 There's also a whole like slew of those WWE rules.

00:34:13.000 Like there's one where Rosa Parks comes out jingling keys.

00:34:17.000 It's insane, bro.

00:34:19.000 When I saw Stephen Hawking from the top rope on his wheelchair, I was like, all right, I can't.

00:34:25.000 There was one which I almost feel bad even reiterating, but I laughed at it where a certain basketball player who is unfortunately no longer with us was in the ring and he was talking about like, who gonna stop me?

00:34:35.000 Who gonna stop me?

00:34:36.000 And then a helicopter sending.

00:34:39.000 But dude, the blades weren't even spinning.

00:34:41.000 It was just like gliding down the lines and everything.

00:34:43.000 And you know, oh my God, here it comes.

00:34:47.000 All right.

00:34:48.000 There's something so bad.

00:34:49.000 There's something to that, though.

00:34:50.000 It's sort of that like, it's like a, it's like a low culture kind of, you know, it plays on human nature.

00:34:59.000 It plays on human stories.

00:35:01.000 It plays on the hero's journey in many cases.

00:35:04.000 And it plays on these meta-narratives that we tell each other that we can sort of see throughout society and throughout the world.

00:35:10.000 And when you play with that, and that gets you into the, you know, the idea of Kay Fabery, right?

00:35:17.000 And, you know, as a writer for, you know, for wrestling, they'll say like, like, you, you have to, you have to keep it within the spectrum of the, you know, the real, like, in the sense of, you know, will this betrayal make sense?

00:35:30.000 Will that make sense?

00:35:31.000 If this person wins, would that make sense?

00:35:33.000 And when it doesn't, because the audience gets to vote on this stuff, is what I'm trying to say.

00:35:36.000 So, like, even if, you know, yeah, we know, okay, like it's written.

00:35:40.000 Like, yes, it was like Marvel and Star Wars, people like that too.

00:35:43.000 But, like, if you don't like it, if it doesn't get over with the crowd, yeah.

00:35:47.000 And if it, and so, like, the Montreal screwdriver is a great example of this with Bret Hart and stuff where people will just be like, that's so obviously fake that, you know, the audience just starts.

00:35:57.000 And then, so there are stories of like Vince McMahon going in and like editing out the booze and like different master reels and stuff and sweetening, you know, the cheers and or like something doesn't get a cheer, so he just adds it in later.

00:36:11.000 Let's go.

00:36:11.000 I wish we could do that for IRL.

00:36:13.000 Add in a laughing post.

00:36:14.000 Yeah.

00:36:15.000 Just got rid of Tate.

00:36:16.000 That'd be awesome.

00:36:18.000 All right.

00:36:19.000 So we're at Rosa Parks there.

00:36:22.000 We're going to jump to this story, and I imagine everyone has a lot to say about it.

00:36:24.000 Reddit is suing the Australian government over social media ban for under 16s.

00:36:30.000 So Australia has decided that they're going to protect the kids in Australia.

00:36:35.000 And they're going to say that you have to be 16 years old to access social media.

00:36:40.000 And Reddit has, oh, we don't have this article.

00:36:44.000 And Reddit has taken to, you know, has a problem with it.

00:36:48.000 So from the Wall Street Journal, they were saying Reddit is taking the Australian government to court to block its social media ban for children under the age of 16, saying the ban infringes on the freedom of political discourse.

00:36:58.000 I imagine most of the guys here kind of feel like it's a good idea to limit the social media diet of young people.

00:37:07.000 And I personally, I think it's a good idea too.

00:37:09.000 Now, I think that it should be something that parents do, but I don't think, and I don't think that the government should be doing it.

00:37:15.000 But I do think that, especially considering Australia's government, they're really worried about, you know, right-leaning.

00:37:22.000 Right.

00:37:23.000 Because the government is so progressive.

00:37:24.000 It goes so left-leaning.

00:37:25.000 It goes back to the earlier point.

00:37:26.000 It's like when the left is throwing you a bone, you should be very suspicious of what's going on here.

00:37:31.000 This has happened in the past.

00:37:32.000 And like, I might get some flack for this, but it's true.

00:37:34.000 Is like you would see left-wing cities loosen up gun restrictions from time to time. 0.99

00:37:39.000 And they weren't doing that because they were like 2A absolutists.

00:37:41.000 They were doing that so they could get people off of gun charges.

00:37:43.000 Because if the DA was desperate and he got a guy on a crime and he didn't have anything else, it'd be airtight.

00:37:48.000 He'd chuck a gun charge on there and guarantee he'd put away this guy.

00:37:51.000 And this is obviously before like a big influx of like Soros DAs came in, is they would basically lax gun law so that way they could let so it's the same what I'm getting at is it's the same idea.

00:38:00.000 It's like when the left throws you a bone on something like this, there's a huge ulterior mode of not to mention getting sued by Reddit has to be the most embarrassing thing ever.

00:38:09.000 It's how bad you have to call out to get sued by Reddit.

00:38:11.000 I mean, what are we doing?

00:38:12.000 I mean, I don't blame them banning kids off Reddit because, you know, why are you on Reddit in the first place?

00:38:16.000 You know, for Reddit Karma or whatever.

00:38:18.000 But, you know, like you said with the gun thing, now all of a sudden leftists are pro-Second Amendment because they have these, what is it, the Pink Pony Club, all these weird groups that are now showing up with guns.

00:38:30.000 And like even Tyler Robinson, maybe like we're looking into, you know, they're becoming extremists with these and they're starting to embrace this, which is, you know, it doesn't be, it's kind of different.

00:38:39.000 They always say the right is always the gun nuts, but you know, the left has started to embrace these, you know, guns.

00:38:45.000 And that's scary.

00:38:47.000 Yeah.

00:38:47.000 Because they name their gun clubs after like guys like John Brown.

00:38:51.000 Oh, yeah.

00:38:52.000 And I mean, maybe we know the story there.

00:38:53.000 Like they fetishized this guy who was like literally insane who just went around just like killing normal white people because he thought that would cause a slave uprising.

00:39:00.000 You know he was hung just like right down the street here. 0.84

00:39:02.000 Oh, yeah.

00:39:03.000 We are we are in sacred land.

00:39:05.000 You're on occupied Confederate land.

00:39:07.000 Let's do a landing.

00:39:10.000 You know, Reagan, I'm not like the biggest Reagan guy, but a lot of stuff that people criticize Reagan for one of the things like a lot of 2A absolutists get mad at Reagan because one of the things he did as governor of California was crack down on open carrying.

00:39:22.000 And so if you're just looking at that on paper, you're like, what the frick, Ronald Reagan?

00:39:25.000 We want to be able to open carry. 0.97

00:39:26.000 The reason he was doing that is because Black Panthers were showing up like with rifles trying to intimidate like normal just white American Christians. 0.98

00:39:31.000 Following cops. 0.93

00:39:32.000 Yeah.

00:39:32.000 And Reagan was like, okay, we're probably going to stop that given that you people have been like, shouldn't say you people, given that members of your organization and affiliates have been like killing police officers, trying to incite violence and things of that nature.

00:39:43.000 So, you know, and you saw that too, to your point about the throwing the bone with Zoran Mandani recently when he did that thing where he's talking about deregulating.

00:39:50.000 Dude, all these people are so desperate to think that we can finally just like talk our way out of this with the left that they're like, ha, the pendulum's swinging back, and they've learned that they're going to have to deregulate because of market economics and reading, you know, Henry Hazlitt or whatever.

00:40:05.000 And it's because the deregulation he's referring to, as he mentions, is specifically stuff pertaining to fines when you've got like, I don't know, fecal matter in the kitchen.

00:40:13.000 Things that you would expect from third world people coming over and trying to exist in civilization for the first time. 1.00

00:40:18.000 And they just wouldn't think to do stuff like that, like maintain clean standards, not have you know, child labor. 0.99

00:40:23.000 And so the American government would come in the New York City government and be like, okay, well, you're probably going to have to like pay a fine for that.

00:40:27.000 And so when he's deregulating, removing red tape, it's not because he's like some pro-market, like based capitalist or whatever.

00:40:33.000 It's specifically because he's trying to help these people, these foreigners in New York, who are who elected him because native-born New Yorkers went for Cuomo.

00:40:40.000 It was only the foreign population that installed Mamdani into becoming mayor.

00:40:44.000 And so I tried to explain that to people.

00:40:45.000 They're getting very angry with me.

00:40:46.000 I was like, you need to be 200 IQ enough to understand that in this instance, deregulation is actually Marxist.

00:40:52.000 Yeah, well, there's like it's people and people that I know and respect, and I think they're really smart people.

00:40:56.000 They're desperate to like intellectualize what's happening with Mamdani.

00:40:59.000 They're like, oh, this is like wholesome Chungus populism. 0.92

00:41:01.000 And it's like, they're desperately trying to like retcon what is obviously just an instance of third worldism that's come to this come to this country. 0.96

00:41:09.000 And yeah, they're trying to backfell and be like, no, he's actually speaking about like housing.

00:41:13.000 And like that's, he's really like prying deep into these concerns that New Yorkers have.

00:41:16.000 I'm like, the New Yorker you have in your head is in Florida right now.

00:41:20.000 He left like 10 years ago.

00:41:21.000 What we're dealing with is an entirely different composition of people.

00:41:24.000 The entire population half of Queens is foreign-born.

00:41:26.000 When Trump was growing up there, it was certainly not the case.

00:41:29.000 And by the way, Trump's keenly aware of that.

00:41:31.000 But yeah, this like trying to intellectualize Mamdani when it's very straightforward what he's doing.

00:41:36.000 This is just how politics is conducted in his homeland of Uganda.

00:41:40.000 Like that, that the wholesome Chungus populism stuff needs to stop. 0.99

00:41:45.000 So when I confronted Mandami in the White House, in the Oval Office, and I knew that I would get a question and, or at least have the opportunity to kind of get a question in.

00:41:58.000 And I knew he was coming in.

00:42:01.000 And I was actually at the White House for a totally separate thing, but it was on the same day.

00:42:05.000 And then Mandami showed up early.

00:42:07.000 And it was funny because Trump was actually like, he's like, oh, he made a big mistake.

00:42:11.000 You don't show up early because he's like sitting in the lobby for the Oval.

00:42:16.000 And he goes, Should I let him in?

00:42:18.000 Should I let him in?

00:42:18.000 I said, Make him sweat, Mr. President.

00:42:21.000 He's out in the hallway, stupid over bull eating with his hands. 0.99

00:42:24.000 Well, no, so I actually, my, it's funny you mentioned that because my original thought was that I wasn't going to ask him a question. 0.99

00:42:30.000 Originally, I was like, I was like, I want to give him a question.

00:42:33.000 I just want, I was like, I looked around, I was like, Dan, you guys have a fork.

00:42:38.000 I was like, I said, because I just want to take a fork.

00:42:40.000 Give me a plastic fork.

00:42:42.000 What are you going to do?

00:42:43.000 And I was like, well, I just want to walk over and hand it to him.

00:42:46.000 And then the answer, of course, I got was like, we don't actually, I don't think you're allowed to do that.

00:42:51.000 Like, bring things like that into the Oval Office.

00:42:54.000 But no, it's for, okay, fine.

00:42:56.000 You know, so I didn't.

00:42:57.000 So I think, okay.

00:42:58.000 So I'm trying to, I'm thinking about this.

00:42:59.000 Okay, I've got a question.

00:43:01.000 I've got maybe only a chance to get one question in.

00:43:03.000 And what is it? 0.89

00:43:04.000 And because I wanted to specifically pierce this like stupid idea that people have that he's trying to do something to help the city. 0.93

00:43:15.000 He's not trying to help the city. 0.98

00:43:16.000 He's trying to help his people.

00:43:17.000 And he's doing that by specifically targeting one group of people that he has designated as the enemy class, the Kulaks, that he wants to then take what they have built and give it to others. 0.99

00:43:28.000 And it's so key, by the way, that he said white neighborhoods.

00:43:31.000 And that's why I brought that up to him.

00:43:33.000 I said, these are your words.

00:43:34.000 No, they're not.

00:43:34.000 Yes, they are.

00:43:35.000 No, they're not.

00:43:35.000 Yes.

00:43:36.000 He denies it.

00:43:37.000 It's like denying Jesus three times.

00:43:38.000 Like he denies it three times and says, No, I didn't.

00:43:41.000 No, I didn't know.

00:43:41.000 It's your words.

00:43:42.000 Why'd you say that?

00:43:43.000 Well, that was descriptive.

00:43:44.000 That was a, those were words of description, not words of intent.

00:43:48.000 So you intend to tax the neighborhoods you described as white more.

00:43:55.000 How does that change?

00:43:57.000 And he was getting like really, he was like kind of quivering.

00:43:59.000 His legs were bouncing, which you're not allowed to do here.

00:44:02.000 There's all these signs.

00:44:03.000 Tim has all these signs around that say, Do not bounce your legs.

00:44:05.000 Logan Hall, Logan Hall, Logan, Logan Hall, Logan Hall, Logan Hall, Logan.

00:44:10.000 Man, what an anti-patriot.

00:44:12.000 And so true.

00:44:14.000 Patriotism is lacking a traitor.

00:44:16.000 And so, so we, and I just, I square up on this.

00:44:21.000 And you could see that nobody had ever really challenged him on this topic before.

00:44:27.000 And, you know, I don't know why anyone in New York hadn't tried to actually just call him out on this to his face.

00:44:32.000 And you've got to do that, though, when you call out somebody.

00:44:35.000 Don't let them play these linguistic games.

00:44:39.000 Just stick on the point.

00:44:40.000 You said this.

00:44:41.000 Why did you say this?

00:44:42.000 Why I didn't make it racial.

00:44:43.000 You brought up race.

00:44:44.000 Yeah.

00:44:45.000 Why did you say white people?

00:44:46.000 Because what he's doing, and that's where he slipped up.

00:44:49.000 Because to John's point, all of this is done with a wink and a nod to, and you saw it, of course, in his victory speech as well.

00:44:58.000 And I mentioned it.

00:44:59.000 I said, you didn't thank white people.

00:45:01.000 You didn't thank Christians.

00:45:02.000 You didn't say the word America once.

00:45:04.000 But we hear that, what was it?

00:45:05.000 Like the Bangladeshi cab drivers and the Abuelas. 1.00

00:45:11.000 And he's very clear.

00:45:12.000 He's very clear.

00:45:13.000 These are my constituents, right?

00:45:14.000 The South Asians, the immigrants, the non-New Yorkers. 1.00

00:45:17.000 These are my constituents.

00:45:18.000 And I will take the things that the actual New Yorkers have made and built and constructed for all these years.

00:45:25.000 And I will give it to you.

00:45:26.000 And it's key, by the way, and I'll just end on this: that he said the white neighborhoods.

00:45:30.000 Notice he didn't necessarily say the rich.

00:45:32.000 Yeah.

00:45:32.000 Notice that?

00:45:33.000 He didn't say it like a quote-unquote traditional Marxist would.

00:45:37.000 That's how you know he's a cultural Marxist.

00:45:39.000 Well, that's what he's thinking.

00:45:40.000 In his head, he's not thinking of the Upper East side.

00:45:42.000 He's thinking of like Masspeth.

00:45:43.000 He's thinking of Staten Island, like actually just like normal middle-class white people because he said in his own words in college that he resents white people because he was rejected by white women growing up.

00:45:52.000 Yep.

00:45:53.000 Every such day. 0.93

00:45:54.000 He couldn't pull any white women. 1.00

00:45:55.000 So now he's like going to just take it out on these like middle-class Irish people and Masspeth. 0.98

00:45:59.000 They're going to be on the receiving end of this resentment.

00:46:01.000 And then, yeah, to your point, like where you can just read them their words.

00:46:04.000 I mean, this happened the other day.

00:46:05.000 If you go watch Jasmine Crockett, it was on Jake Tapper's show.

00:46:08.000 And Jake Tapper didn't press her. 0.87

00:46:10.000 All he did was just read her quote where she was basically saying that Hispanics and black people that voted for Trump in Texas were slaves.

00:46:18.000 And he literally read her quote verbatim and she's like, that's not what I was saying at all.

00:46:22.000 I don't know what you're talking about.

00:46:24.000 But what would you predict if you had said that?

00:46:27.000 I know.

00:46:27.000 So it's just like the new strategy is just read these people's words back to them and then just watch them quiver.

00:46:33.000 And it's really frustrating because at the point that the stage that the left is at, I don't even know if that really even works anymore.

00:46:39.000 I mean, like, legitimately, they just, it's so over.

00:46:42.000 Well, it doesn't, it doesn't work on them, but what you can hopefully do is try to find people in the middle who may be kind of trapped up in this like pretzel logic that John's talking about of, no, no, it's, it's really good, actually, that our enemies are winning, you know, and you just say to them, no, it's, it's very clear what he's doing.

00:47:02.000 This isn't some deregulation, like based libertarian kind of thing. 0.62

00:47:05.000 He's, no, it's, it's still just gay race Marxism, terrorist communism over and over and over. 0.95

00:47:11.000 And no, you know, to your point, and the other people who have this take, like, oh, Mamdani is going to be so bad that like it's going to change people's minds and they'll rise up.

00:47:19.000 It's like, when has that happened exactly?

00:47:21.000 Like, when, when does that happen?

00:47:22.000 When did the people just rise up on their own?

00:47:25.000 Doyle's point, I mean, never seen it.

00:47:26.000 This time last year, I was in South Africa.

00:47:27.000 I saw it firsthand.

00:47:29.000 Like, the people there know exactly what's going on.

00:47:32.000 Everyone there is radicalized.

00:47:34.000 Everyone there is awake.

00:47:35.000 It's just like once power is stripped away from you and they cut off your avenues to power, it's over.

00:47:41.000 That's why Elon is so good on a lot of these issues because he's already lost a country.

00:47:47.000 And he's, I feel like he's never come out and just said it, but you can tell that's why he fights so hard against this stuff.

00:47:57.000 But not like he's called out the South African government plenty of times, but I don't know if he's ever just specifically said this, what we did was wrong, right?

00:48:06.000 When we turned the country over and wrote wokeism and DEI and critical race theory into our, when Bill Clinton went with Nelson Mandela and wrote his critical race theory into the Constitution of South Africa, it destroyed our country.

00:48:19.000 Yep.

00:48:20.000 So true.

00:48:21.000 Yeah.

00:48:21.000 So I'm going to try to, I think we've got this piece here.

00:48:25.000 We're going to bring up this story here from the Daily Mail, an exclusive Charlie Kirk shooting suspect twisted courtroom remarks revealed.

00:48:32.000 From the Daily Mail, the Utah man accused of murdering Charlie Kirk made a series of upsetting remarks about the late conservative and his family, as well as his own mental health and loved ones during his first in-person court hearing.

00:48:44.000 Tyler Robinson 22 told attorney Catherine Nestor, I think about the shooting daily, every morning, all the time.

00:48:50.000 Forensic lip reading expert Nicole Hickling revealed after watching footage filmed at Thursday's proceedings in Provo, Utah.

00:48:59.000 You know, I can imagine that Jack has the most to say about this.

00:49:03.000 But before we jump to Jack, it's my sense that this guy, if he is the actual murderer, he's behaving as if he's totally remorseless.

00:49:16.000 I mean, I would too, if you have, you know, if you have half the people that want him on trial, if even that put even if even Charlie's fans are divided now, now after the whole Candace thing, you know, his chances at a mistrial or hell even getting off are pretty high right now.

00:49:32.000 I mean, he could potentially have jurors on the trial that are like, I don't know if he even did it too.

00:49:38.000 You know, you would think conservatives would have them, you know, be the most ardent to put him behind bars for life, but that's not even true.

00:49:45.000 I mean, I've seen a poll online, you know, Twitter where it's someone's asking, I think it was you, Jack, who asked, you know, who, who do you think killed Charlie Kirk?

00:49:54.000 You know, there was like I've talked about it, but I didn't do the poll.

00:49:58.000 No.

00:49:58.000 Oh, gotcha.

00:49:59.000 Well, it was somewhere online.

00:50:00.000 Someone asked it and it was asking, you know, was it Tyler Robinson or was it someone else?

00:50:05.000 And it was split 50-50.

00:50:07.000 And, you know, if I was Tyler Robinson, you know, I'd be smiling too because his chances of getting away from, you know, with, you know, the shooting of the century right now are, you know, remarked completely high.

00:50:18.000 So.

00:50:19.000 Well, so let's just go and Phil, do you want to actually read the piece there?

00:50:25.000 Because there's that video that went viral, I think, yesterday of, you know, Tyler in the Tyler.

00:50:36.000 I mean, it's kind of hard to say, but just smirking.

00:50:40.000 And, you know, some people said he was laughing.

00:50:42.000 I would say grinning is probably a better word.

00:50:45.000 But yeah, smirking, grinning, looking smug, just looking really, really smug.

00:50:51.000 And, you know, I said, well, no wonder they want to pull the cameras out because they can't stop their defendant, their client, from smirking and cracking up and cracking jokes while There's a guy who's not going to be going home to his family on Christmas and his little children and his wife.

00:51:11.000 And you're sitting in the courtroom just laughing it up with your lawyers.

00:51:15.000 Of course, they want the cameras off.

00:51:16.000 That's why they're pulling that.

00:51:18.000 But then I don't know, Phil, if you wanted to read that line.

00:51:20.000 So I guess Daily Mail hired a lip reader.

00:51:23.000 Yep.

00:51:24.000 And the lip reader said that, according to her, she believes this is what he was saying to his attorney.

00:51:30.000 Yeah, I think about the shooting daily every morning, all the time.

00:51:34.000 The expert Nicole Hickling said she watched the footage and that's what she saw Tyler saying.

00:51:42.000 I mean, look, if this is the guy, which it's my personally, I think that they probably got the right guy.

00:51:51.000 He turned himself in, and there is an abundance of evidence that points to him.

00:51:56.000 And if it is, he's not doing himself any favors.

00:52:00.000 I mean, even down to Jack, you pointed this out, even down to the colors that he was wearing the first day, the tie color.

00:52:07.000 If you're unfamiliar, it's the same color as the trans flag.

00:52:10.000 I haven't agreed.

00:52:11.000 His transgender boyfriend turned him in or something.

00:52:14.000 No, no, the parents.

00:52:15.000 His parents turned in.

00:52:16.000 I remember there were rumors when it first happened that the transgender partner turned him in.

00:52:21.000 And I remember tweeting something.

00:52:22.000 It was cooperation about the boyfriend.

00:52:25.000 Imagine, you know, you see what happens with Luigi Maggion, and you think that you're going to have that same kind of fangirl energy or something.

00:52:33.000 And then your transgender partner turns you in. 0.88

00:52:35.000 And it's like, dude, how can you be surprised that Z switched up on you when Z switched up on himself first?

00:52:42.000 Well, and if you actually, so there's another line on there where it says, the forensic lip reading expert also said, so he had a wife.

00:52:52.000 Yeah, the Utah man accused of murdering Charlie Kirk made a series of upsetting remarks about the late conservative and his family, as well as his own mental health and loved ones during his first in-person court hearing, court hearing.

00:53:02.000 Tyler Robinson, 22, told attorney Catherine Nestor, I think about the shooting daily every morning, all the time.

00:53:09.000 Forensic lip reading expert Nicola Hickling revealed after watching footage filmed at Thursday's proceeding in Provo, Utah.

00:53:17.000 So he had a wife, Robinson was then filmed saying in reference to 31-year-old Kirk's widow, Erica 37.

00:53:24.000 So can, like, all right, before I even comment on this, does that sound like something a normal person would be saying in court to their lawyer?

00:53:34.000 You know, can you, can anyone actually think that a lawyer would sit there and give their client advice, say, hey, make sure you talk about the shooting when we're sitting there and definitely talk about his wife?

00:53:44.000 Like, like you would, you would probably sit there, and I'm not a defense attorney, but and I don't think any of us are lawyers, but you would just think basic common sense would be like, sit there, don't show any emotion, look serious, be respectful, be respectful of the judge, respectful of the process.

00:54:02.000 And he's babbling.

00:54:03.000 He's just babbling about, again, if you know, if this is we kept going.

00:54:09.000 Oh, wait, I didn't even seen this part.

00:54:11.000 Hickling, who runs lip reader.

00:54:12.000 You know what I mean?

00:54:13.000 Like he's babbling like someone who is just totally radicalized.

00:54:17.000 Hickling, who runs lip reader, told the Daily Mail that Robinson's reflections turned inward and that he gestured lightly as if trying to express exhaustion.

00:54:25.000 Nestor's responses to Robinson accused of shooting Kirk dead in Orem, Utah in September, were not visible.

00:54:31.000 But Robinson continued to bear her soul, to bear his soul to her, just smoking a lot, not sleeping at night.

00:54:38.000 It's driving me mental, he said, according to Hickling.

00:54:40.000 Unfortunately, it's doing my head in.

00:54:42.000 I'm not good for anything.

00:54:44.000 I mean, I'm not particularly swayed by any kind of stress that he's under.

00:54:53.000 Again, he was turned in by his parents.

00:54:57.000 So he's talking about his mother, too.

00:54:58.000 Yeah, actually.

00:54:59.000 Next, Robinson began speaking about his mother, Amber Robinson.

00:55:02.000 My mother goes away to see friends to be away from the media, which I think makes sense.

00:55:06.000 After another back and forth, he then said, What I would like to do is make it as easy as possible by answering all of their questions so there's no comeback.

00:55:14.000 It is unclear about what comeback Robinson was referring to.

00:55:18.000 Comeback.

00:55:19.000 It goes on.

00:55:20.000 He and Nestor then discuss procedural issues, which offered no further insight into the shooting, Robinson's state of mind, or his questions about Charlie and Erica Kirk.

00:55:28.000 Thursday's appearance was the first time Robinson was seen in person after making previous court appearances via video or audio feed from jail.

00:55:36.000 As he entered the courtroom, he smiled at the people sitting in a row reserved for family, where his mother teared up and wiped her eyes with a tissue.

00:55:44.000 Robinson's father, Matt, was the one who handed him in to the authorities after recognizing his son in surveillance footage shared from the assassination that shocked the world.

00:55:53.000 Robinson's legal team in the Utah County Sheriff's Office have asked Judge Tony Graff to ban cameras in the courtroom.

00:55:59.000 Shortly after proceedings started, Judge Graff ordered all press and public to leave the room.

00:56:03.000 The defense asked the judge to allow Robinson's parents to stay, which was quickly denied.

00:56:08.000 Gaff had already made allowances to protect Robinson's presumption of innocence before the trial, agreeing that the case has drawn extraordinary public attention.

00:56:16.000 The judge held a closed hearing on October 24th, in which attorneys discussed Robinson's courtroom attire and security protocols.

00:56:23.000 Under a subsequent ruling by the judge, the suspect is allowed to wear street clothes in court during his pretrial hearings, but must be restrained for security.

00:56:31.000 Graf also prohibited media from filming or photographing his restraints after his attorneys argued images of him shackled and in jail could prejudice the jurors.

00:56:42.000 Michael Judge, an attorney for the media coalition, has urged Graf to let news organizations weigh in on any future requests for closed hearings or other limitations.

00:56:51.000 The media presence at Utah hearings is already limited, with judges often designating one photographer and one videographer to document a hearing and share their images with other news organizations.

00:57:02.000 Additional journalists can typically attend to listen and take notes, as can members of the public.

00:57:06.000 Judd wrote in recent filings that an open court safeguards the integrity of the fact-finding process while fostering public confidence in judicial proceedings.

00:57:14.000 All right, so just and of course, you know, I think all of us here want cameras, no question.

00:57:21.000 You know, we don't want to, we don't want to impede on the proceedings, but we want the proceedings to be full.

00:57:26.000 My analysis, just looking at reading this for the first time and hearing this for the first time, they've completely lost control of their client.

00:57:34.000 They have no control over this guy, his actions, his statements whatsoever.

00:57:38.000 There's no world where you'd want someone talking like that at a trial.

00:57:43.000 I mean, I remember Derek Chauvin's trial, who I believe is innocent, certainly of murder, that he doesn't really speak, you know, and then Kyle Rittenhouse, same idea.

00:57:53.000 He doesn't speak until he goes on the stand.

00:57:55.000 But this guy is, he's just babbling. 0.95

00:57:57.000 He's just, it's diarrhea of the mouth.

00:57:59.000 And it almost sounds like that line where he's talking about the comeback, right?

00:58:05.000 I want to answer all their questions so there's no comeback.

00:58:08.000 And this is the way I read it.

00:58:09.000 You know, you guys might have a different opinion, but it sounds to me like he wants to talk to the media, right?

00:58:14.000 He's saying it in the context of my mom's trying to get away from the media, so maybe I can go and talk to them and answer all their questions so they don't come back on my mom.

00:58:23.000 And let him.

00:58:25.000 Just let him.

00:58:27.000 Go right ahead.

00:58:27.000 No, let's hear it.

00:58:29.000 Let's hear it up.

00:58:31.000 Let's hear it.

00:58:32.000 Let's hear every word because he's sitting there smiling, laughing, grinning.

00:58:38.000 And again, that he's talking about, oh, what's my mom going to be up to?

00:58:42.000 It's like, well, I know a guy who's not going to be with his family this Christmas.

00:58:47.000 I know a guy who's not going to be, I know two kids that aren't going to be with their dad this Christmas.

00:58:54.000 For Charlie's son, this is what, it's his second Christmas.

00:58:57.000 He only had one Christmas entire life with his dad.

00:59:00.000 One, which at an age that, you know, he's not going to remember.

00:59:02.000 There's going to be photos.

00:59:03.000 He won't remember that.

00:59:04.000 And their daughter, I mean, hopefully she does, you know, maintain some actual memories of their father beyond three, right?

00:59:13.000 Yeah.

00:59:13.000 So beyond the, you know, photos and images.

00:59:17.000 And, you know, I'm, I'm sure, obviously we'll all tell them stories and be there.

00:59:24.000 But my God.

00:59:27.000 And to think that there are people who like, okay.

00:59:34.000 Sorry, it's looking at this picture of him smiling really bothers me.

00:59:37.000 And I know, yeah.

00:59:40.000 If your logic, if your thesis is that this guy was a Patsy and he's been wrongfully accused, all right?

00:59:49.000 How do you fit that with all of this?

00:59:51.000 How do you fit that with this?

00:59:53.000 How?

00:59:53.000 Just explain to me that.

00:59:55.000 How does that make any sense?

00:59:56.000 And by the way, they said his mom's right there.

00:59:59.000 So if his mom's right there, the media's right there.

01:00:00.000 She doesn't say anything to them.

01:00:02.000 She doesn't say, my son is innocent.

01:00:04.000 What mom doesn't say my son is innocent?

01:00:06.000 Yeah.

01:00:07.000 Just walk me through that.

01:00:09.000 You imagine hollering at even like just leaving the courtroom.

01:00:12.000 Make it make sense.

01:00:13.000 He's innocent or what have you.

01:00:14.000 Somewhat.

01:00:15.000 Yeah.

01:00:15.000 Well, and when she left the meeting, when she left the courtroom, because Brian Etton, who works for a news nation, who's a fantastic, he's, you know, does a lot of these crime cases.

01:00:23.000 He did Brian Koberger, similar situation.

01:00:26.000 Brian Koberger, by the way, physiognomy identical, by the way, physiognomy check never fails.

01:00:32.000 And that at one point they went to speak.

01:00:37.000 So it was the lawyers and the judge were getting into these motions regarding the cameras.

01:00:42.000 And so everybody had to leave the courtroom.

01:00:44.000 And that included his family.

01:00:45.000 They said, can your family say?

01:00:46.000 Judge said, no, I just want it to be, you know, the legal teams.

01:00:50.000 Okay.

01:00:51.000 So the mom's out there in the hallway with Brian Etton, with media.

01:00:56.000 They're all there for hours.

01:00:58.000 And she doesn't once say, my son's innocent.

01:01:01.000 Come on.

01:01:02.000 Just really?

01:01:03.000 Like, really?

01:01:04.000 Like, we're really supposed to believe that this guy who's sitting there laughing, smug, smiling, coking and joking, having a good time, is wrongfully accused.

01:01:13.000 He's entered a plea of not guilty, correct?

01:01:15.000 No, not yet.

01:01:16.000 He hasn't been arraigned.

01:01:17.000 Okay.

01:01:17.000 No, he has not.

01:01:18.000 He has yet to actually been arraigned.

01:01:19.000 This is all, this not even pre-trial.

01:01:21.000 This is pre-arraignment.

01:01:22.000 Okay.

01:01:23.000 So I believe the way that Utah works, I totally could be getting this wrong, but I believe there's a presumption of that.

01:01:28.000 But even this is just all preliminary because it is a capital case.

01:01:32.000 And in a capital case, they, you know, there are so many steps you have to go through.

01:01:37.000 And it's a lot slower.

01:01:38.000 It's not like TV, you know, drama.

01:01:41.000 They were scheduling things out to June of next year.

01:01:44.000 I understand.

01:01:44.000 Yeah.

01:01:44.000 And I think the next hearing isn't for two months.

01:01:48.000 So it's going to be February 3rd is, if I remember correctly, when they're going to actually, we're actually going to hear on this question of whether or not there'll be cameras.

01:01:57.000 And again, so this is what we have to go off of.

01:02:01.000 This lip reader, and he's very close to the camera, by the way.

01:02:04.000 So this isn't like some pseudoscience where he's like, you know, all the way across the room and you're like zooming in and pixelating.

01:02:11.000 He's right next to the camera, which, and the judge actually called that out and made them move the camera because it was so close.

01:02:16.000 But yes, you could see what he's saying.

01:02:18.000 And I actually was trying to kind of read his lips a little bit too.

01:02:21.000 And so here's the professional lip reader saying all this.

01:02:24.000 I think about the shooting every day.

01:02:25.000 So do I.

01:02:27.000 Yeah.

01:02:28.000 So do I.

01:02:29.000 So do I.

01:02:30.000 Yeah.

01:02:31.000 Um, I'm not sure that that there, you know, does anyone else have anything to add?

01:02:35.000 I mean, this is.

01:02:35.000 I mean, here's, here's, here's, I guess, the, the question, and, and, you know, yeah, I'm a little emotional about this, but it's like, how do you, how do you fit this with the idea that this guy is like totally like set up and he wasn't the one who pulled the trigger and all this?

01:02:53.000 Like, how does that, I don't get it.

01:02:54.000 I just don't get it.

01:02:55.000 He would just like choose to believe that it's all Kfabe, and he's out there giggling on direct orders from his handlers because then people like us are like, wait, he's giggling like he got away with something. 0.71

01:03:05.000 And then you can do this like mental gymnastics where you're like, yeah, but it's because he's supposed to do this.

01:03:09.000 Because if I choose to believe this, it makes it all so much more entertaining.

01:03:12.000 And it's just like completely selfish.

01:03:13.000 I mean, you're discounting not only a guy's entire like body of work, but a body of work that he died doing further that he died doing specifically for you.

01:03:21.000 And people who are claiming to be on the right and who believe in these things are willing to set all that aside because they personally find it more entertaining to think that something is afoot.

01:03:30.000 There's some kind of op, which again, like they there, and this is, we were talking about this upstairs, actually, how dishonest that framing is.

01:03:36.000 Again, with this, like, I have to perpetually believe I'm, you know, a revolutionary or whatever.

01:03:41.000 You are convincing yourself that it is not the most popular thing in the world right now to celebrate this guy's assassination and to deny, more importantly, that it was a leftist who did it.

01:03:50.000 You're not going to get censored for that.

01:03:51.000 In fact, you'll be platformed on all the mainstream platforms.

01:03:53.000 You can do epic collabs with other influencers to just spread this pollution out there.

01:03:58.000 Because what the left would like more than anything, they're not going to tell you that you have to, you know, necessarily celebrate the assassination, but they will tell you that you can't say it was a leftist.

01:04:07.000 You can say it was whoever you want, but do not allow for that ire to be directed at the leftist political project.

01:04:11.000 Yeah, right immediately upon hearing that Tyler had family that were conservative, then the narrative online became, well, you know, his parents were this, so of course he wasn't on the left.

01:04:24.000 Of course he didn't, he didn't believe these things.

01:04:27.000 He was a MAGA guy.

01:04:28.000 And that's still, I've seen polls that's still very popular among fairly normal people.

01:04:36.000 They think, oh, no, he wasn't a leftist.

01:04:38.000 He was just a disturbed kid, or he was actually a conservative, et cetera.

01:04:45.000 And that kind of poisoning the well that the left has managed to do.

01:04:51.000 Sure.

01:04:51.000 They hear that and they amplify these ideas.

01:04:54.000 They amplify this.

01:04:56.000 When if you talk to people around him, Tyler, they would say that he was definitely a leftist.

01:05:03.000 He was a left-leaning guy.

01:05:05.000 There were messages prior to Charlie's murder that were talking about Charlie being murdered on that day.

01:05:12.000 So the preponderance of evidence is that he was a left-leaning guy and that he was dating a trans guy.

01:05:20.000 And that this is based on politics, based on the fact that Charlie disapproved of his lifestyle.

01:05:28.000 And so he felt the need to, you know, to violently react to that.

01:05:31.000 And that's why I hate it because they think that they're being so edgy because they're rejecting the narrative of like the FBI or whatever.

01:05:38.000 But you're not being edgy because you don't want the fight.

01:05:40.000 You want to make it a conversation about, oh, he's a disturbed kid, which is to say, let's talk about mental health.

01:05:45.000 Disturbed kids do a lot of stuff.

01:05:47.000 They torment animals.

01:05:48.000 They do whatever.

01:05:49.000 A political assassination is not the first thing I would expect from a disturbed kid.

01:05:53.000 Is he disturbed?

01:05:54.000 Like, clearly, yes, but this is specifically political in context.

01:05:57.000 And it's because he responds to social incentives that are created by the media, whether that's, you know, the mainstream media or, you know, your alt media streamers who spend decades or years just inciting this kind of violence specifically against normal conservative activists.

01:06:10.000 So yeah, it is actually like a left versus right thing.

01:06:13.000 And you're not smarter.

01:06:14.000 You're not being more honest by like polluting that.

01:06:16.000 And that's why I hate so much of the conspiracy theorizing.

01:06:19.000 And I don't use that word, by the way, as a pejorative, the way the left says, oh, you're just a conspiracy theorist.

01:06:23.000 I mean, like, literally, the whole idea with talking about conspiracy theories is that it's supposed to take the shackles off and we can all finally be more honest and we can understand the truth more accurately and we can maybe make some progress.

01:06:34.000 But actually, all that's happened is it's completely like ruined people's ability to think about things accurately.

01:06:38.000 And now everybody is more dishonest and they lie and they're more treacherous than ever.

01:06:42.000 But they say that I'm just asking questions.

01:06:43.000 I'm telling you the truth.

01:06:45.000 But when you push back on some of this stuff, like, and I, and by the way, you know, I get it, right?

01:06:51.000 I get it.

01:06:53.000 Why suddenly believe the government after like, you know, all these years?

01:06:57.000 Sure, fine.

01:06:58.000 Okay.

01:06:59.000 But you don't have to do that to just look at evidence and actually follow the inherent logic of a case.

01:07:06.000 So we know that there were specific phrases etched onto these bullets.

01:07:11.000 What do they refer to?

01:07:12.000 Oh, look, the gay community, the trans community, the Furity community. 1.00

01:07:18.000 Funny how the LGBT guys don't call this great moments in LGBT history. 0.98

01:07:23.000 You don't see, yes, Charlie was shot by a gay guy. 0.98

01:07:26.000 So nobody seems to frame it that way at all.

01:07:29.000 Yet we know he was in a homosexual relationship and nobody challenges this. 0.95

01:07:34.000 So we know that.

01:07:34.000 And yet, no one ever frames it.

01:07:36.000 But so they're left-wing, they're homosexual, and obviously involves trans. 0.84

01:07:43.000 And beyond that, though, when you ask, start getting into just the basic evidence that we already know, people say, oh, well, he hated guns, right?

01:07:51.000 See, this is where the magical thinking goes beyond just, well, what if this happened?

01:07:56.000 It's not just asking questions because you're introducing facts that either aren't in evidence or facts that just aren't true.

01:08:02.000 You say, well, I heard he hated guns, but there's pictures of him shooting guns his entire life.

01:08:08.000 There's reporting from his coworkers that he used to say, I'm a great shot.

01:08:13.000 I love shooting at long range.

01:08:15.000 I can shoot at long range.

01:08:16.000 So you're just going to discount all that because that hurts your narrative.

01:08:21.000 Again, that's the magical thinking.

01:08:24.000 And the biggest one for me on all of this, right?

01:08:26.000 Well, two biggest ones.

01:08:28.000 And the biggest one is his parents.

01:08:32.000 I keep coming back to that.

01:08:33.000 What parent would turn their kids in and pick up that phone if they didn't think they had to?

01:08:40.000 And everybody wants to say, oh, Fed slopped, Fed narrative.

01:08:44.000 And it's like, but it wasn't the feds that caught him.

01:08:47.000 In fact, the feds looked really bad because they announced a wrongful arrest and this guy was running around screaming that he was the real shooter, but he wasn't.

01:08:58.000 And then they looked really bad.

01:08:59.000 And I remember all this because obviously I was very close to it at the time that Trump calls in Cash and Dan and says, you need to get out there and figure this out and like unscrew this situation.

01:09:10.000 So they go out there and then they put out the pictures and then it's the parents who identify their son.

01:09:15.000 Then they look at the gun and they say, wait a minute, isn't that grandpa's gun that we gave to Tyler?

01:09:21.000 And I believe if you read the affidavit, the father calls or texts the son and says, can you send me a picture of grandpa's gun right now?

01:09:30.000 Because he had already known that it had been, you know, it had been captured.

01:09:34.000 So that was sort of like his check on it.

01:09:35.000 Again, so that's just the facts.

01:09:38.000 And you would have to ignore all of that or assume somehow, to John's point, that all of these people are in on it, right?

01:09:46.000 All like the parents, the mom, the brother.

01:09:50.000 And for some reason, they don't, they never break character for, again, like because of these mysterious forces that seem to be surrounding them. 0.94

01:10:00.000 Or, or it's just a gay communist. 0.95

01:10:03.000 Yeah. 0.86

01:10:04.000 Well, and also like his classmates have to be on it who gave statements to the press literally right after the shooting saying, yeah, his politics did not mesh with his family.

01:10:12.000 They had to be like, and this is to John's point, is it's this like LARPing, it's like shadow boxing these powerful institutions that really are shells of what they used to be in many ways, where they're like attributing it to like the French government and the Israelis.

01:10:26.000 It's literally shadow boxing because it's like the only thing that's clearly indicated if you really wanted to threaten power would be directly addressing the issue that trans people are increasingly violent. 1.00

01:10:36.000 That's actually a threat.

01:10:37.000 Because after the shooting, when everybody in the GOP was focused for like five days, everyone on the left was coming out like, no, we denounce all political violence, but like this is separate, this, that, and the other.

01:10:46.000 Like they felt the heat coming down their necks.

01:10:48.000 And then as soon as everybody comes unglued and starts spurging, starts blaming everybody else that was not involved whatsoever.

01:10:55.000 You see it.

01:10:56.000 It's just larvae.

01:10:58.000 And I don't know if it's on the show much, but Nick Fuentes had a great point about the gun.

01:11:04.000 And he was saying, so, all right, let me just get this straight that if the FBI planted all of these things, but Charlie wasn't actually shot with a 30 out 6.

01:11:16.000 Why would they leave a different gun in the woods than the actual caliber of the gun that shot him?

01:11:23.000 If they're so super powerful or Mossad or whoever it was, if they're so super powerful, why did they get the caliber of the gun wrong?

01:11:31.000 Because we knew about the caliber of the bullet in Charlie and we knew about then we got the rifle, the rifle that was found.

01:11:40.000 So if you get what I'm saying, if they were lying about one, why wouldn't they also lie about the other?

01:11:46.000 Why would they have public flight logs?

01:11:48.000 Like, like, what is this, amateur hour from these like shadowy figures?

01:11:51.000 Like, they're just like, yeah, we're going to, we're going to get a jet and escape, but make sure it's on flight radar.

01:11:55.000 Make sure it's still on the, like, what are we doing here?

01:11:58.000 Yeah.

01:11:58.000 What are we doing here?

01:11:59.000 So I want to bring this up in this context because I think that it's related.

01:12:05.000 Governor Newsom was doing an interview with Ezra Klein, and he specifically said, I want to see trans kids.

01:12:12.000 There's no governor that's done more pro-trans legislation than I have.

01:12:16.000 Listen, there is no such thing as a trans kid. 1.00

01:12:18.000 Okay.

01:12:19.000 I don't care what anyone says.

01:12:20.000 There is no such thing as a trans child that is, that is, that is just like there is no such thing that's a kid. 1.00

01:12:27.000 That's also a truck.

01:12:29.000 Okay.

01:12:29.000 It just doesn't exist.

01:12:31.000 But we'll go ahead and listen to that.

01:12:32.000 Dubwend get into trans sports.

01:12:34.000 That's an issue no one wants to hear about because 80% of the people listening disagree with my position on this.

01:12:39.000 But it comes from my heart, not just my head.

01:12:42.000 It wasn't a political evolution.

01:12:45.000 The position being that I don't think it's, I want to see trans kids. 1.00

01:12:49.000 I have a trans godson.

01:12:50.000 There's no governor that signed more pro-trans legislation than I have, and no one has been a stronger advocate for the LGBTQ minute.

01:12:57.000 That's just child abuse.

01:12:59.000 And I don't care that people think that, you know, I'm sure that I'll catch flag from the left for saying that, but that's pure child abuse, right? 0.60

01:13:06.000 Like there's no such thing as a trans child.

01:13:09.000 Like you can have your opinions about transgender adults, but trans kids is a total fabrication. 1.00

01:13:17.000 And it's because these children are confused and their parents are pushing this stuff on their kids.

01:13:23.000 Yeah, obviously.

01:13:24.000 And I mean, look, at the end of the day, right?

01:13:28.000 No one, like, we should just get back to actual basics on this and stop and like just deny the frame completely.

01:13:34.000 No one can actually turn themselves into another gender. 0.52

01:13:38.000 It's not possible.

01:13:40.000 It's biologically impossible to do that.

01:13:42.000 You know, we're all, we're all guys around here.

01:13:44.000 And guess what?

01:13:44.000 Our genetic code is male, which means that it will always be male.

01:13:50.000 So you can make these cosmetic changes.

01:13:52.000 And I think there's a new form of surgery that talking about someone.

01:13:56.000 Someone was talking on Twitter about having their pelvis reshaped in order to go from a masculine skeleton to a feminine skeleton.

01:14:06.000 So this is like Turkish heightening. 0.99

01:14:08.000 Yeah.

01:14:08.000 And to that, to that point, it's not pelvis, right?

01:14:11.000 People on the left and people that are LGBTQ advocates, they will say that men and women are the same.

01:14:18.000 And then you'll reply, well, you know, an archaeologist is going to look at your bones in a thousand years and they're going to know if you were a man or a woman.

01:14:24.000 And they will deny it.

01:14:26.000 They will say, no, you're wrong.

01:14:27.000 They can't.

01:14:28.000 But there are people out there that are going and saying, I'm going to have my skeleton adjusted in order to be more feminine.

01:14:36.000 But again, it's still cosmetic because you could still pull that person.

01:14:40.000 So by the way, the reason they're talking about that is because there's like a meme about this, right?

01:14:45.000 That you could still pull someone's skeleton.

01:14:47.000 You can tell the gender.

01:14:48.000 Well, guess what?

01:14:48.000 Even if you get your pelvis elongated, whatever you talk, widened or whatever.

01:14:54.000 Yeah, even if you get your pelvis restructured, guess what?

01:14:57.000 You could still pull the bone marrow.

01:14:59.000 And guess what?

01:15:00.000 From the bone marrow, we can tell your chromosomes and we can see the XY. 0.52

01:15:05.000 And guess what?

01:15:06.000 It's still there.

01:15:07.000 That would still not award. 0.91

01:15:08.000 Because if the archaeologist, a thousand years from now, like sees your skeleton, he knows that you were a male, but he didn't know that you were like an insane male.

01:15:14.000 But then if you had the surgery, he's like, as a male, it's worse, actually. 1.00

01:15:19.000 Yeah.

01:15:20.000 It's way worse than we could.

01:15:22.000 Imagine if we found one of those.

01:15:23.000 Imagine if we found one of those now.

01:15:24.000 I'd be like, oh my gosh, what kind of battle was this person in?

01:15:30.000 You scarring on the skeleton. 0.99

01:15:31.000 Yeah, museum for all history, like your skeletons up there in a museum and you're just like gay male. 1.00

01:15:36.000 They're going to dig it up and be like, the Trump regime was brutal. 0.94

01:15:39.000 They were breaking men's pelvises in half. 0.94

01:15:41.000 They were just barbarians. 0.60

01:15:42.000 Ah, yes.

01:15:42.000 A form of T, a form of torture.

01:15:45.000 Is that one Navy Seal?

01:15:46.000 He was like, he was, you know, putting power into the Trump admin.

01:15:48.000 He was making these guys at his concubine and he was widening their hips.

01:15:53.000 Dude, that's going to be like, no, they're going to have those TikToks where the welders are judging other guys' welds.

01:15:58.000 They're going to be looking at like, that weld is terrible, dude.

01:15:59.000 I would have never stitched a pelvis together like that.

01:16:01.000 Like, what are we doing?

01:16:02.000 The hip to waist ratio is not quite at the point six, seven.

01:16:05.000 That flavicle guy goes, oh, no.

01:16:08.000 Oh, no.

01:16:09.000 I do want to, I do want to.

01:16:10.000 Wait, Up high, down low, in heaven, six, seven.

01:16:18.000 So I do want to, I have, I have kids.

01:16:21.000 Listen, I want to point out, though.

01:16:23.000 My five-year-old taught me that.

01:16:25.000 Really?

01:16:25.000 Yeah.

01:16:26.000 My five-year-old.

01:16:27.000 I want to point out Gavin Newsom is leading in the polls for the Democratic election.

01:16:34.000 Now, granted, I mean, obviously it's super far out.

01:16:36.000 I understand it.

01:16:37.000 And a lot of things will change.

01:16:38.000 And usually the person that's leading this far out isn't actually the person that gets the nomination.

01:16:44.000 But the point remains, this stuff is still alive and well on the left.

01:16:50.000 People that say that the midterms don't matter and elections don't change anything and nothing ever changes, et cetera, they are wrong.

01:16:58.000 Okay.

01:16:59.000 And if, yeah, you want to bring that up by Kaulchi, it looks exceedingly likely right now.

01:17:05.000 Again, I know it's early and things change and this will change as well.

01:17:10.000 But Gavin Newsom is in the lead to be the Democrat nominee.

01:17:14.000 And if he becomes president, all of the bad things that people hated about the Biden administration, all of the LGBT stuff that will be, that will return tenfold. 0.91

01:17:26.000 The guy is saying that he wants to see trans children when there are no such thing as trans children.

01:17:32.000 Okay.

01:17:33.000 This guy, you don't want this guy to be the president.

01:17:36.000 We don't want Democrats to be in power.

01:17:38.000 We don't want this kind of insanity to come back.

01:17:41.000 This is one of the reasons why the Democrats lost.

01:17:45.000 Like, yes, of course, it's an economic issue.

01:17:48.000 Those kind of things matter a lot.

01:17:49.000 But these kind of cultural issues, going after kids, the idea that if you were, if you and your wife break up and your wife's like, no, my kid's trans and I'm going to run to California and have and have genital mutilation that's paid for by the state.

01:18:06.000 Like that's a reality.

01:18:09.000 So I actually know someone in real life who is getting divorced over politics.

01:18:16.000 And, you know, he's, it was sort of like they were both, I'm trying to say this without, you know, revealing anything, but like sort of like they were both on the left before, but then he became more on the right.

01:18:27.000 And then she just can't can't handle that.

01:18:32.000 They have three kids.

01:18:34.000 And that's the very first thing I said is you got to be careful with all this gender stuff because she will try to take your little boy and trans him to get back at you. 1.00

01:18:45.000 She will.

01:18:46.000 Yeah.

01:18:46.000 I mean, it's possible.

01:18:48.000 It's a real.

01:18:49.000 I think it's likely.

01:18:50.000 Well, I mean, always the little boys.

01:18:52.000 Yeah.

01:18:53.000 Yeah.

01:18:53.000 Why is it always boys?

01:18:58.000 Well, if I understand correctly, I think that actually women do more transitioning than boys than or girls transition more often than boys.

01:19:07.000 No, no, no, but I'm saying when it's moms.

01:19:09.000 Oh.

01:19:10.000 Yeah.

01:19:10.000 Okay.

01:19:10.000 Fair enough.

01:19:11.000 Yeah.

01:19:13.000 But again, John, I was saying like this guy is the guy that's in the lead.

01:19:17.000 And if the Democrats get back into power, for all the people that say the midterms don't matter, that say that, you know, elections don't change anything, et cetera.

01:19:25.000 If this guy becomes the president, all of the bad things that you saw about, you know, about the LGBT stuff from the White House, like dudes pulling out fake boobs on the White House lawn, like that stuff will come back with a vengeance. 0.60

01:19:40.000 Yeah. 0.97

01:19:41.000 You know, in my old age, I don't really, I know that I'm not going to on my deathbed wish that I'd spent more time conversing with the retarded. 1.00

01:19:49.000 And so I've really tried to give myself permission to just like not engage with people who are fundamentally unserious.

01:19:54.000 And if you didn't get it, that this is like a real thing, like up until the Kirk assassination and now you get it, like that's fine.

01:20:00.000 I don't hold grudges.

01:20:01.000 But if you still like don't get it, then you're just like, you're off the team, man.

01:20:05.000 And you saw this a lot with like the Gavin Newsom thing where because, you know, JD Vance has an Indian wife.

01:20:10.000 And so people were saying very seriously that like, we need Gavin Newsom to be president because look at his beautiful family.

01:20:14.000 I saw this.

01:20:15.000 I saw the real.

01:20:16.000 You're pro-family.

01:20:17.000 You're pro-Gavin Newsom.

01:20:18.000 This is your Gavin Newsom administration, right?

01:20:20.000 Literally convincing through propaganda organs, be that social media, mainstream media influencers, convincing the minds of young, convincing young children that they are like not the gender that they actually are. 0.91

01:20:30.000 Their parents are against them.

01:20:31.000 They're evil.

01:20:31.000 The state should come in and confiscate them.

01:20:33.000 That's your guy because what?

01:20:35.000 Because you, oh, dude, wouldn't it be funny if because Gavin Newsom's a Democrat, I'm so edgy for wanting to support Democrats.

01:20:40.000 This is a real thing.

01:20:40.000 This obviously has real consequences.

01:20:42.000 We're not playing with action figures, right?

01:20:44.000 So it's just like a fundamentally unserious thing.

01:20:46.000 He's obviously like evil.

01:20:47.000 And again, Democrat, like this is their guy, right?

01:20:50.000 The only talent they have insofar as he's talent, that's their guy.

01:20:53.000 These are not, this is not a party of people who are even capable of being accidentally moral or correct on one issue.

01:20:58.000 Like this is how they exist.

01:21:00.000 That's the kind of guy who ascends in their ranks.

01:21:02.000 Anybody who would have done right is outcast.

01:21:05.000 And if it's not, and if it's not him, I think everything is an option.

01:21:09.000 No, I know, but I mean, no, I'm just, I'm just going to pick your brain.

01:21:11.000 Do you think it's an op to target, you know, the sort of like elements of the right to pull their support away from JD Vance?

01:21:22.000 Absolutely.

01:21:22.000 Yeah.

01:21:22.000 And say, oh, look, actually, Gavin Newsom, his family is all white.

01:21:27.000 Yeah.

01:21:28.000 And, you know, this, this is what you should be for.

01:21:31.000 You know, see, he's got white children and therefore you should be for him. 1.00

01:21:36.000 And like, do you actually think there are people that are pushing that who, you know, maybe not work directly for Newsom, but, you know, have that intention?

01:21:44.000 Absolutely.

01:21:45.000 I mean, that's like what we talked about, you know, earlier with how do you get young men to not support the Trump Vance political project.

01:21:50.000 That is, I was thinking.

01:21:51.000 You push them over the skis and you say it's not based enough for you because Vance is married to an Indian woman and XYZ. 0.99

01:21:56.000 And it's like, okay, dude.

01:21:58.000 And half these guys, too, they claim to be Catholic.

01:22:00.000 So it's like, okay, you know, he's raising the kids Catholic.

01:22:02.000 We're all one under God.

01:22:03.000 Like, so what is the issue?

01:22:05.000 And then the other half are like not even white themselves. 0.96

01:22:07.000 I have like Pakistanis who are like JD Vance made an idea. 1.00

01:22:09.000 So I'm like, his kids are going to be more Anglo than you. 0.92

01:22:11.000 So like, what's the problem?

01:22:13.000 I think this is one of the problems with totalizing white identitarianism. 0.57

01:22:17.000 Because if you're just a white identitarian and you look at JD Vance with his, you know, his mixed race kids and you look at Gavin Newsom, then the choice would be, well, Gavin Newsom is white. 0.53

01:22:27.000 So he must think like me.

01:22:28.000 But it doesn't matter because obviously Gavin Newsom will allow your wife to take your son into California and mutilate him. 0.99

01:22:36.000 But I would even say to that, who do you think is going to have better policies?

01:22:41.000 Yeah.

01:22:41.000 For people, if this is what you want, Gavin Newsom's entire career has been anti-white.

01:22:47.000 Gavin Newsom's entire policy, his entire governance, whether it's in San Francisco where he was mayor, whether it's in statewide where he's governor, and now that he's kind of on the national stage, he's obviously anti-white.

01:23:00.000 He says it all the time.

01:23:01.000 He says these things all the time.

01:23:02.000 And his policies would be as well.

01:23:04.000 So when we're talking about someone for elected office, you want someone whose policies are going to be the ones that you support and that benefit you and benefit your agenda and your side.

01:23:17.000 And it's proof that like these movements are just purely like aesthetic based and there's no actual serious strategy.

01:23:23.000 There's no serious direction in moving, as you say, all the time moving the football down the field.

01:23:28.000 It's purely aesthetics.

01:23:29.000 And then so leftists can capitalize on that and be like, see, see, doesn't he match your like keynesthetic posting? 0.95

01:23:34.000 It's like, it's so ridiculous.

01:23:36.000 And then beyond that, like the attacks on his wife don't even make any sense because it's like, again, a lot of these guys are like supposedly like trad casts. 0.91

01:23:42.000 And it's like, what do you want him to do?

01:23:43.000 Like divorce his wife?

01:23:44.000 Is that like their girlfriend or significant other?

01:23:47.000 And it would be so jealous.

01:23:49.000 And it's like to posto's point earlier, how it's actually worse than that in the sense that they're not only just like doing this mental gymnastics, they're denying reality because the argument is like, well, how do, and this is so simple.

01:23:59.000 I wish that I were like ADIQ so I could be like, yo, this is tough.

01:24:02.000 It's like literally the argument is, okay, well, how can we expect JD Vance to be against H-1Bs if his wife is Indian? 1.00

01:24:09.000 Because he's against H-1Bs. 1.00

01:24:11.000 Everything he says is against that.

01:24:12.000 He's the best guy's on that.

01:24:14.000 Yeah.

01:24:14.000 So he's been perfect on that issue since the issue.

01:24:17.000 He's known about that and fought for that before you even knew about it because it was put into your head, which is a sandbox for the CIA.

01:24:23.000 So he's perfect on that issue.

01:24:24.000 He's our guy.

01:24:25.000 And it's like, but what if one day he's not our guy? 1.00

01:24:27.000 Because it's like, okay, you're just an idiot. 1.00

01:24:31.000 Like you need to, you know, I've been doing this thing recently on Twitter. 1.00

01:24:34.000 I've been DMing people links to DraftKings gift cards.

01:24:39.000 I feel bad for them because they are fundamentally normies who are now running like a based OS on their normie hardware and it's confusing them.

01:24:47.000 And it's actually cruel.

01:24:48.000 You have to treat these people like they're animals who like wandered off the reservation and now they're like in politics and everything is very confusing to them and there's all these ideas.

01:24:57.000 They were never meant to have to understand these things.

01:24:59.000 They would be better off if they were sports betting.

01:25:02.000 Yeah, I know.

01:25:02.000 They were, you know, one of these like sports.

01:25:04.000 So I'm sending them gift cards.

01:25:04.000 I'm like, here, I'm trying to get you home.

01:25:06.000 Okay.

01:25:06.000 I know.

01:25:07.000 That's why like Trump needs to make it a national imperative to like improve the quality of the NFL.

01:25:11.000 Because as the NFL has gotten worse, these guys are now like acting like they're politicos and it's ruining everything.

01:25:15.000 It's like, just improve the product, get rid of the kickoff rule so they can just go back to watching like the Cowboys.

01:25:20.000 They're always just like the bread and circuses are meant to distract us.

01:25:23.000 You are always going to be distracted and it would be better for you if it were the bread and circuses rather than like things that actually matter.

01:25:29.000 Yeah, so we can focus on governing.

01:25:32.000 Asmund Gold has made a great point.

01:25:34.000 There are some people that are born just to make big rocks into smaller rocks.

01:25:38.000 That should be a good thing.

01:25:42.000 That's all they're going to be able to do.

01:25:44.000 And I think that there's a lot of people that those people that are born to make big rocks into little rocks, they shouldn't be allowed to vote.

01:25:52.000 Phil, are you denying the tabula rasa right now?

01:25:54.000 Are you denying the blanks?

01:25:56.000 Oh, yeah.

01:25:57.000 Oh, yeah.

01:25:57.000 Yeah.

01:26:00.000 I reject the idea that there is a thing called gender.

01:26:04.000 You are either male or you are female. 0.95

01:26:06.000 Gender is like your sex spirit. 0.99

01:26:08.000 Like it's all just BS.

01:26:10.000 Like to me, I totally reject the idea of gender.

01:26:13.000 You're a man or you're a woman. 0.96

01:26:15.000 You are male or you are female. 0.63

01:26:17.000 Gender was created by some dude that just wanted to diddle kids. 1.00

01:26:22.000 You don't know what's funny about money.

01:26:23.000 So I was I was out to dinner one time with a young lady about five or six years ago, and she was like one of these like leftists, you know, gender. 0.74

01:26:31.000 And I literally asked her like, what do you mean?

01:26:33.000 Because she was talking about like why she doesn't believe in gender and everybody can have their subjective non-binary experience. 0.94

01:26:38.000 I was like, what does that even mean?

01:26:39.000 And she was like, Well, I was looking at myself in the mirror one time and I thought, What does it even mean to be a woman?

01:26:46.000 And I was like, Oh, what do you mean?

01:26:47.000 Because she was like, My experience as a woman is different from someone else's experience as a woman, therefore it doesn't even exist as a concept.

01:26:52.000 And so, I immediately like repudiated that. 0.96

01:26:53.000 I was like, You're insane.

01:26:54.000 And she ended up now becoming like a far-right Catholic or whatever, because that's like five seconds to just like impart reality to her. 0.74

01:27:00.000 But you're totally right about that.

01:27:02.000 Even the word gender, look at like the etymology of it.

01:27:05.000 Where do we see gen generates genesis in reference to you know creation, dir, dermatology, taxidermy, flesh, creating flesh?

01:27:14.000 Right?

01:27:14.000 The word itself is linked to the act which creates, you know, being like normal sex between like a man and a woman.

01:27:20.000 And it is, it is not possible to separate that concept from the reality of biology being something that is binary between men and women.

01:27:28.000 So, you can't say, Well, sex is biological, but gender is obviously different.

01:27:31.000 Literally, no, dude, the word comes from that act itself, which is, of course, rooted in biology and God's plan.

01:27:37.000 Yeah, so yeah, I just think that the more we can kind of push the idea that gender is a total fabrication, and obviously, you know, the left and the left agrees because they say gender is a social construct.

01:27:50.000 And so, they agree that it's just something that's created.

01:27:53.000 And if it was created by man, then man can just stop using it and just leave it behind in the dustbin of history.

01:27:59.000 But, but even what you said before is even, I would say it goes a little bit beyond that because you're saying that people have a specific purpose in life as well.

01:28:08.000 And so, it's like, like, you know, for example, like John Doyle's not going to be a basketball player.

01:28:14.000 Like, well, listen, neither am I. I'm yeah, Phil, neither are you.

01:28:18.000 Yeah, like, like, it just like it is what it is.

01:28:20.000 There's still some eligibility left of any recruiters.

01:28:22.000 And so, we, we can all, we can all laugh about that, but at the same time, that also lends itself to other areas and other fields as well.

01:28:32.000 And so, for people to just deny that and say, you could be whatever you want.

01:28:37.000 And we hear these little lies that are told all throughout our society.

01:28:40.000 You can be whatever you want.

01:28:41.000 You can do it.

01:28:42.000 Actually, no, it's actually not true.

01:28:44.000 There's this specific set of, and you want to go back.

01:28:47.000 Like, the Bible actually talks about this, right?

01:28:49.000 Everyone is given certain talents, certain talents, and certain gifts and certain abilities.

01:28:55.000 And by the way, like, if your talent is, you know, being a miner and turning small, big rocks into smaller rocks, then that's amazing.

01:29:03.000 Go be the greatest at that of all time.

01:29:05.000 And by the way, so people want to, and there's nothing wrong with that.

01:29:08.000 People want to knock on that.

01:29:09.000 Go to the royal salt mines of Krakow and you will see that the Polish miners, what they would do down there is every single day when they would get off shift, they would chisel things into the walls of the mines and of the tunnels, and they would build elaborate cathedrals and they would build chapels and statues and mosaics. 0.97

01:29:30.000 And there's a giant one bigger than this room of the Last Supper that one miner did every single day when he got off shift and he never finished it.

01:29:40.000 And then after he died, it was completed by his son.

01:29:44.000 So yeah, you know, like sit there and tell me that like that's not a good purpose.

01:29:49.000 So guess what?

01:29:50.000 He, that was the purpose that he found in his life and he used it to enrich his family, to go home and have kids and to glorify God.

01:29:58.000 What's wrong with that?

01:29:59.000 Yeah.

01:30:00.000 I was saying we're quick as well.

01:30:01.000 It's like the one thing that's frustrating with the gender debate as we're, you know, we're pontificating on is actually my gripe's kind of with the right because it feels like the GOP, because they know that it's like, you know, at best a 60-40, probably even 70-30 issue.

01:30:14.000 Like the only people really pushing this is like the Democrat core base.

01:30:18.000 Is that we've expended a lot of political capital on this fight, on this sort of debacle.

01:30:24.000 But the thing is, the gender thing is actually downstream from the actual issue, which is fundamentally like the blank slate and that sort of thing.

01:30:30.000 And that's what they adhere to.

01:30:31.000 And the GOP, a lot of these guys aren't ready to touch that yet, but they know that the gender thing is where they can score a lot of points in XP farm.

01:30:39.000 And so it's kind of frustrating.

01:30:40.000 It's like we've expended a lot of time and a lot of political capital on this issue, and we've danced around what it's downstream from.

01:30:47.000 It's like, look, if you knock out one leg, there's still like four legs left of this thing instead of actually attacking at the top.

01:30:52.000 Well, that's why I brought it up, though.

01:30:54.000 Right.

01:30:54.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:30:55.000 That's the big reason that I said, and I mean, Phil's the one who made the point, but that there is no such thing as a tabula rasa, right?

01:31:01.000 Genetics is real.

01:31:02.000 Biology is real. 0.73

01:31:04.000 All of the reality is real.

01:31:05.000 Reality is just real.

01:31:07.000 And we have to stop pretending that these made-up concepts that don't comport with what we actually see as reality can be true because that's what leads you to the place where you're getting bone pelvis surgery.

01:31:24.000 Literally.

01:31:25.000 Because you've so convinced yourself that this is what I need.

01:31:29.000 And guess what?

01:31:30.000 You're not going to be happy.

01:31:32.000 You're not going to be satisfied.

01:31:34.000 You're not going to be fulfilled.

01:31:35.000 If you want to be fulfilled, accept who you are and accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior because Christ is king.

01:31:42.000 It's just going to be one more.

01:31:43.000 It's going to be one more lie that you're going to have to tell everybody for the rest of your life.

01:31:47.000 And deep down, they all know it.

01:31:49.000 Deep down, they all know it.

01:31:50.000 While you're lying to yourself about it, you're going to have it there.

01:31:53.000 And look yourself in the mirror and say, no, actually, I am this.

01:31:56.000 But in the back of your mind, you're going to know you're not. 0.96

01:32:00.000 And that's why we see this is the community, the transgender community is the most, it is the most violent. 1.00

01:32:05.000 They have the most violent tendencies. 0.95

01:32:07.000 And in fact, they have the most suicidal ideation of any single group in America.

01:32:11.000 Yeah, it's true.

01:32:11.000 That's why.

01:32:12.000 Yeah.

01:32:12.000 I mean, I do kind of want to drop back into is like, and that's why you have to root this out at the top.

01:32:18.000 Because like, like I was saying earlier, where at this point is almost like a safe edgy issue for the GOP to some regard, because I remember when the arena Zarutska situation happened, it was like a day after the video came out and everyone was outraged.

01:32:31.000 And then I can't remember, I got to find it.

01:32:32.000 I can't remember which Republican congressman it was.

01:32:35.000 He just tweeted out, like, by the way, there's only two genders.

01:32:38.000 And it was like, oh, yeah, we know.

01:32:41.000 It's like, whoa, truth to it.

01:32:44.000 And it's like, hey, that lady just got stabbed. 0.96

01:32:46.000 And like, we're trying to address black crime right now. 1.00

01:32:48.000 And it's like, okay, yeah, you got that.

01:32:51.000 We got that down.

01:32:52.000 It's like, hello, this is, there's something above here.

01:32:54.000 There's something like controlling this specific apparatus.

01:32:57.000 Frankly, you know, if we want to be a little cynical, they don't even really have a good answer to the way the left is presenting the argument because like the way the left like sort of confronts the issue is to say like, you know, what is gender?

01:33:08.000 What is like the essence of male and female experience behavior?

01:33:12.000 And the right's answer to that is just like, what are you talking about?

01:33:14.000 Read a biology textbook.

01:33:16.000 And it's like, okay, yes, like you are correct.

01:33:18.000 But if they're having a higher level conversation about like social constructs, what is womanhood? 0.99

01:33:24.000 That is frankly a question that many on the right are afraid to confront because they don't want to get into trouble with their wives and make the claim that women have a way that they tend to behave and maybe should even ought to behave because they're afraid to get, you know, crap from a lot of the feminists that we have on our on our side, a lot of girl bosses and a lot of wives who are married to guys who are basically like Ned Flanders.

01:33:43.000 And so they'll, they'll take it there and say, like, of course there are two genders, you know, whatever.

01:33:46.000 And it's like, okay, what does that mean?

01:33:48.000 What does it mean to be a man?

01:33:49.000 And more importantly, maybe right now, what does it mean to be a woman?

01:33:52.000 How should women behave? 1.00

01:33:53.000 We know how men behave.

01:33:54.000 We have sort of known that for a while, actually.

01:33:56.000 I don't think that my behavior is much different from my grandfather's behavior.

01:34:00.000 However, my sister's behavior, and she's a good girl, but she is behaving much differently from the way that like, you know, our grandmother behaved because women, because of feminism, we've seen that experiment in the last hundred or so years of what it looks like when women all of a sudden have, you know, no expectations of their behavior because any expectations of their behavior would be patriarchy, civilization, whatever you want to call it.

01:34:19.000 Whereas men, we've learned a little bit about what men will sort of, how they will respond to being like completely domesticated, you know, having the state really just like impose itself upon them and feminize them and do stuff like that.

01:34:29.000 So, anything we've learned in the last 60 or 70 years about like human behavior between the sexes, it's been far more illuminating about like what women will do when they don't have traditional society sort of imposed upon them the way that you know this country was built on.

01:34:42.000 Yeah, well, I mean, that's the possibility point.

01:34:44.000 It's like a lot of this is like the essence.

01:34:47.000 Like, there was that video of like a trans it was like a male to female or whatever, and or no, it's a female to male, and he had like this beard that he grew with all these chemicals and everything. 0.96

01:34:56.000 Or she was girl, because it's so confusing with all the chemicals and everything.

01:34:59.000 I can never do it.

01:35:00.000 I know it's tough, and but she was having like a mental breakdown about like whatever.

01:35:05.000 And I was like, it's still a woman, like it's still obviously a woman because it's like John's saying, Is this goes beyond just like, oh, read a biology textbook?

01:35:12.000 It's like, no, how should women, how ought women conduct themselves and to be in the fullness of a woman? 0.99

01:35:18.000 There was like they naturally gravitate towards that in some way.

01:35:22.000 There was a line where it's a little bit morbid, but do you remember Aubrey Hale, who was the Nashville Christian shooter?

01:35:30.000 Well, she went and she, because biological female, a lot of people get that one wrong. 1.00

01:35:34.000 That was a she. 1.00

01:35:36.000 And one of the rare times you actually do see a female conducting a mass shooting, which is rare, certainly is. 1.00

01:35:42.000 And hopefully, we don't see more of those.

01:35:45.000 When she wrote this manifesto, but when she uploaded it online, it was a PDF and she left it, she left it password locked.

01:35:56.000 And I remember a bunch of people saying, Well, you know, who wouldn't have made that mistake?

01:36:00.000 A man.

01:36:01.000 Oh, literally.

01:36:02.000 Oh, like you can look at like the suicide success story.

01:36:06.000 Oh, dude, no.

01:36:07.000 Like, women attempt it a lot and it never works. 1.00

01:36:10.000 Because, yeah, women will be like going through something and that's awful. 1.00

01:36:13.000 And they'll just have a moment where they're like, meh.

01:36:15.000 And then guys are much more rational.

01:36:16.000 Like, okay, I'm not getting out of this.

01:36:18.000 We got to commit to it.

01:36:19.000 Literally.

01:36:20.000 Yeah.

01:36:20.000 That's so true.

01:36:22.000 Unfortunately.

01:36:22.000 All right.

01:36:23.000 We're going to go to some questions from the Discord here today.

01:36:27.000 Let's see.

01:36:28.000 I'm going to bring up.

01:36:29.000 Let's find.

01:36:31.000 Yeah, I'll go back to the beginning one second here.

01:36:33.000 Let me just go back to where we started.

01:36:37.000 I found the emoji you were talking about as well.

01:36:40.000 Okay, cool.

01:36:40.000 Yeah.

01:36:41.000 Just so everyone knows, let them know why we're reading from Discord.

01:36:46.000 All right.

01:36:47.000 So just bring it down.

01:36:49.000 Yeah, there it is.

01:36:49.000 Somewhere here.

01:36:50.000 All right, here we go.

01:36:52.000 Let's see.

01:36:53.000 So, question for the panel from Crimson.

01:36:58.000 Crimson Catnip.

01:36:59.000 Question for the panel: How can we as Americans celebrate Christmas with so many people on the left and specifically Muslims calling for its abolition?

01:37:07.000 You just do.

01:37:08.000 You ignore them and you do.

01:37:10.000 And then when they get to the point of it.

01:37:12.000 Think about how much it angers you, just angers them to celebrate Christmas.

01:37:16.000 Right?

01:37:16.000 You just think, you sit there and go, Hey, hey, buddy, hey, Merry Christmas.

01:37:21.000 Christ is Lord.

01:37:22.000 Christ was born on this day on December 25th, 2025 years ago, and there's nothing you can do about it because God so loved the world, He sent His only son so that people who believe in Him may have eternal life.

01:37:34.000 Let's go.

01:37:35.000 Christ, Protestants, literally, what are you gonna do? 0.99

01:37:38.000 Christ literally descended and shattered the timeline in half, BC to AD.

01:37:42.000 Yeah, let's go.

01:37:43.000 Unbelievable.

01:37:44.000 Patriot.

01:37:44.000 So just do.

01:37:46.000 Total patriot.

01:37:47.000 Jesus Christ.

01:37:47.000 Jesus is a patriot.

01:37:48.000 Jesus Christ.

01:37:49.000 He's awesome.

01:37:50.000 Patriot.

01:37:50.000 I love him.

01:37:52.000 All right.

01:37:53.000 Let's see.

01:37:54.000 I don't know who this person is.

01:37:59.000 I'll just like, there's always going to be negativity, right?

01:38:01.000 There's going to be, there's always going to be negative things in the world.

01:38:05.000 And, you know, even when I think about like Charlie and Erica and the family and how horrific, you know, this is and everything they're going through, you know, I still know that she's going to do everything she can to have a great Christmas with the kids because, and certainly, right, that she hasn't lost her faith or anything.

01:38:29.000 It's actually faith that helps us through the suffering.

01:38:32.000 It's faith that helps us through as a crutch, as a cradle for you.

01:38:37.000 If you don't, like, I feel bad for people that don't have faith, you know what I mean?

01:38:40.000 That don't have that.

01:38:41.000 And that's, of course, why they go nuts when something like this happens.

01:38:44.000 But, you know, you might think, like, well, how could, you know, why would God let bad things happen?

01:38:49.000 Right.

01:38:49.000 And it's, and it's, it's one of those deals where you sit back and say, no, no, this is all a test.

01:38:54.000 This is all a testing ground.

01:38:56.000 And yeah, we don't know what's going to come up next.

01:38:59.000 And yeah, I'll just say that it's one of those things that makes you realize that, you know, we're not in control.

01:39:05.000 We're so not in control.

01:39:07.000 And if you don't just give yourself up to God and realize that like he's the boss and you're just like nothing, you know, but he still loves you anyway.

01:39:14.000 And that's the, you know, the great, the greatest joy of it.

01:39:17.000 Mr. Somber Joe says, what does the panel think about the Maryland man being free due to our great justice system?

01:39:26.000 He's he's making a joke, but the Maryland man is Breo Garcia from what's the actual update?

01:39:37.000 Yeah, he was he was released.

01:39:38.000 Yeah.

01:39:39.000 Yeah.

01:39:40.000 Released by who?

01:39:42.000 Obama judge.

01:39:43.000 Obama judge.

01:39:44.000 So in Mara, so at the federal level.

01:39:46.000 Yeah.

01:39:47.000 And he was released on what grounds?

01:39:49.000 I don't know what the grounds were.

01:39:51.000 It was the original injunction, which was that he could not be released or he could not be deported.

01:39:56.000 Liberia wasn't good enough.

01:39:58.000 Which is insane.

01:40:00.000 The initial initial injunction, that was basically giving him a stay.

01:40:02.000 Right.

01:40:02.000 Which was incorrect because if I remember correctly, that the initial injunction was that he could not be deported to El Salvador.

01:40:08.000 Right.

01:40:08.000 And so, and what the Trump administration came back and said they were going to do was we're going to deport him to another country then.

01:40:14.000 And we're like, yeah, and that injunction never said that.

01:40:17.000 And yeah, they're going to go to Liberia. 0.62

01:40:19.000 And so, I mean, that sounds, I mean, as ridiculous as this is, there's two things, right?

01:40:24.000 Number one, obviously, I think that can and should be appealed. 0.69

01:40:27.000 There's no question.

01:40:28.000 And number two, it goes to show you that we don't live in a world that's like controlled by the CIA and controlled by like all this stuff.

01:40:36.000 Like, are they out there?

01:40:37.000 Are the nefarious actors out there?

01:40:38.000 Sure.

01:40:39.000 But ultimately, the correct way to view the world is that there are liberal Marxists who actually believe everything Antifa says, and they are in control of almost every single institution.

01:40:50.000 We don't have to invent new conspiracies.

01:40:52.000 We're already living through one. 0.57

01:40:55.000 If you want to reassure yourself of that, just think of CIA as standing for clowns in action, right? 0.75

01:41:01.000 They are imperfect people. 0.58

01:41:02.000 They make mistakes.

01:41:03.000 They are not some kind of nefarious string pullers.

01:41:08.000 And if they were, then the Bay of Pigs would have worked. 0.96

01:41:10.000 Yeah.

01:41:10.000 I mean, look, I've been to CIA's offices, been to the new building, I've been to the old building, I've been to Langley, I've been to like every three-letter agency in the government, right?

01:41:19.000 There's no magical powers that they have.

01:41:22.000 Like these are mostly just office buildings.

01:41:24.000 There's no, no, do they do shady stuff?

01:41:26.000 Are they involved in operations covert?

01:41:28.000 Of course, yes.

01:41:29.000 But the idea that there's some like magical shadow world that like all that stuff you see on TV, the, you know, Jack Ryan, oh, it's all, you know, the black cops going on and, and all those like, like, it, I'm not for book banning, but if I was, it would be like Tom Clancy and Jack Carr.

01:41:46.000 Literally.

01:41:47.000 It's just, it's just literal airport brain rot.

01:41:50.000 No, it is.

01:41:51.000 It's airport brain rot, right?

01:41:53.000 Right next to that Prince Harry book.

01:41:55.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:41:55.000 It's just like, it's like these guys read, it's like, right, so they do the Prince Harry book for the women and then they do Jack Carr for men and to make you a moid, to make you a moid.

01:42:05.000 And they're like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, we gotta, we gotta invade Venezuela.

01:42:10.000 Yeah, we gotta invade Lebanon and Iran. 0.99

01:42:12.000 We, we gotta knock over the molas. 1.00

01:42:13.000 Yeah, it's like, it's like, meanwhile, what's actually going on is that a breago Garcia, who's a human trafficker, was just released. 0.94

01:42:20.000 There's like black people just stabbing white people in high schools or on subways every single day.

01:42:27.000 And all of this is going on, like probably not far from your house. 0.96

01:42:31.000 And if you actually just looked into what's really going really happening in your area, you would be shocked.

01:42:36.000 But the only TV, and this is why I talk about mass media so much, Strange Things, et cetera, because this is where we get our view of the world from our worldview.

01:42:43.000 So if you're sitting there just consuming this airport brain rot, you're thinking, oh my gosh, we've got to worry about all these things.

01:42:50.000 You're not actually paying attention to the very real things that can and will get you and your family killed if you don't pay attention to it. 0.50

01:42:59.000 And to your point, one of the things that the government continually shoves down people's throat or prior to the Trump administration was the idea that the most dangerous people in America and the most, the biggest threat to America was young white men.

01:43:14.000 And that's something that you, we just, we just had a piece on it last night.

01:43:18.000 I forget what the, what her name was, but she was a state senator talking about how she wants white kids to think about how bad it is to be white. 1.00

01:43:26.000 And it's like, this is something that the government has been, you know, shoving down your throat.

01:43:32.000 And you get it from mass media. 0.89

01:43:34.000 There was a piece where I think it was on the tonight show or whatever, making jokes about how bad it is to be, how bad white men are.

01:43:42.000 And this is totally, if it was any other race, obviously, and this has been said a million times, but if it was any other race, obviously everyone would be up in arms.

01:43:50.000 You've got a whole generation of young kids that have grown up hearing this stuff and they're rejecting it out of hand.

01:43:58.000 And personally, I think it's good that they're rejecting it.

01:44:00.000 Now, what narrative they decide to internalize, I think is it, that does matter.

01:44:06.000 But you can't expect young guys to sit there and say, yeah, I'm the problem.

01:44:11.000 And I feel bad for it.

01:44:12.000 That's just not going to happen. 0.96

01:44:14.000 It's also, by the way, on the spy agencies thing, like, how many times does James O'Keefe have to just put on a pair of glasses and he fools all of these homosexuals that are running our spy agencies? 0.96

01:44:26.000 It's KDR on grinders. 0.97

01:44:27.000 You know what I mean?

01:44:28.000 He just hops on Grinder and they're like, they're like, hi, I'm like this whatever CIA agent.

01:44:33.000 Let's go on a date.

01:44:35.000 That's actually the new joke.

01:44:36.000 Because you remember the old thing used to be the pizza monitor of the Pentagon.

01:44:42.000 You could see that if the pizza plays were busy around 10 p.m., they might think there's military activity.

01:44:46.000 Well, now the new one is if the gay bars have low activity around like Northern Virginia, that that means like there's an operation going.

01:44:54.000 They're getting paid somewhere.

01:44:55.000 They're like, wow, the gay bars are really quiet. 0.81

01:44:57.000 And then suddenly it's like, kaboom, massive bombing goes off. 0.70

01:45:01.000 Like, oh my gosh.

01:45:01.000 But like, it's real because they'll sit there and they don't even realize it's James O'Keefe with a pair of glasses and doing a little bit of a voice, you know.

01:45:12.000 And he kind of does that like up talk, lifty kind of thing.

01:45:16.000 And suddenly they all fall for it. 0.98

01:45:18.000 But like, that's gay officials, by the way. 0.98

01:45:20.000 That's reality. 0.92

01:45:21.000 Dude, it's not Jack Carr.

01:45:23.000 Those are the people running the intelligence agent.

01:45:25.000 1960s Batman level gadgets where it's like glasses. 1.00

01:45:29.000 And then the CIA is like, oh, fuck. 0.99

01:45:31.000 Don't know who that is. 1.00

01:45:33.000 He's not gay. 0.63

01:45:34.000 He's with O'Keeffe Media, bro.

01:45:35.000 Trust me, trust me. 0.51

01:45:36.000 He's not gay. 0.63

01:45:36.000 Wait, it's so funny you mentioned that about Batman because there's that there in the 1960s Batman movie where he's where Catwoman just like takes on a Russian accent. 0.63

01:45:45.000 And it's obviously obviously her, but he's like, oh, Miss Kitka.

01:45:50.000 Which Batman was it where the Joker goes into Too Faces Hospital Room without the mask on?

01:45:53.000 He doesn't recognize him and he has the makeup on.

01:45:55.000 He's takes the mask off.

01:45:55.000 He's like, oh, it's literally O'Keefe.

01:46:00.000 No, it's like the Pentagon.

01:46:01.000 I was like, because I was.

01:46:03.000 Yeah, we were there.

01:46:03.000 We were there.

01:46:04.000 Yeah, I'm an airport American.

01:46:05.000 So I went in and I was expecting it to be like this high-tech.

01:46:08.000 Like everyone's running around with clipboards.

01:46:10.000 And I walk in.

01:46:11.000 They're like, so where's the missile button?

01:46:12.000 I know.

01:46:12.000 I was like, where's like the kill, like everyone button?

01:46:14.000 And it was like, there wasn't one, unfortunately.

01:46:16.000 And also, it's like a mall.

01:46:18.000 Like, I just walked in.

01:46:19.000 I was like standing in Starbucks line.

01:46:20.000 It's not like five.

01:46:21.000 It's not like Black Ops zombies.

01:46:24.000 Can you take me to the five room, please?

01:46:25.000 Yeah, it was just a bunch of wage.

01:46:27.000 I was like, what is this?

01:46:28.000 It's just literally a Pentagon-shaped wage cage.

01:46:31.000 Brother, I'm here to tell you that's every single intelligence agency like that.

01:46:35.000 That's the thing that's annoying, too, is the people who are like the biggest, like, dude, it's the CIA.

01:46:38.000 The stuff they believe about the CIA is like that it put like crack into black neighborhoods or that we were toppling communist governments throughout the latter half of the 20th century, just like Reddit mind slopped that's even real.

01:46:50.000 That's the consoling idea for communists, right? 0.99

01:46:54.000 They say, well, you know, communism would have worked if it wasn't for the damn CIA. 0.99

01:46:58.000 That's right. 0.99

01:46:58.000 That's exactly McCarthy vindicated, by the way. 0.99

01:47:00.000 You'll see this like on Instagram.

01:47:01.000 Even the Russians admitted it. 0.94

01:47:03.000 You'll see this on Instagram when it's like a black guy like huffing galaxy gas or like little black kids like singing a really explicit rap song. 1.00

01:47:10.000 And then the comments will be like, CIA doing backflips right now. 0.88

01:47:13.000 Oh, the CIA.

01:47:14.000 And I'm like, the CIA has done what is the CIA in 2025? 0.91

01:47:18.000 Look, let's demonize the black community. 1.00

01:47:20.000 Like, what is going on? 0.98

01:47:21.000 They're calling that dude who hands out the machetes and alcohol to these guys.

01:47:24.000 CIA agents.

01:47:25.000 That guy's a patriot. 1.00

01:47:27.000 Yeah, that guy's sick. 1.00

01:47:28.000 Like I said, clowns in action. 0.98

01:47:29.000 So we're going to go to some more questions from the Discord. 0.93

01:47:32.000 Kevin Adele says, Do you guys know about DE abortions?

01:47:36.000 It's just delivering a baby and killing it in the process.

01:47:38.000 I never want to hear about a medically necessary abortion again. 0.73

01:47:41.000 P.S. Is that Connor Tomlinson without the glasses or hair gel?

01:47:44.000 No.

01:47:45.000 People have been saying that.

01:47:46.000 John Doyle.

01:47:47.000 My brother across the pond.

01:47:49.000 Yeah.

01:47:50.000 But yeah, look.

01:47:51.000 Look, it's.

01:47:53.000 Are you Irish Catholic?

01:47:54.000 I think most of the guys around the table here agree that, and I don't want to speak for anyone, but I get the sense that everybody kind of agrees that abortion is murder.

01:48:02.000 And so, as much as the DE abortions are graphic and conceptually horrific, you know, abortion's abortion.

01:48:13.000 It's killing an unborn human being, regardless of whether the baby is full-term or not.

01:48:21.000 For a lot of people who, you know, maybe don't have the religious backing on this or, you know, just don't have various belief structures on abortion and will say, well, I don't really care, whatever.

01:48:34.000 Let me posit this.

01:48:36.000 Do you know the very first country to legalize abortion?

01:48:40.000 It was the Soviet Union.

01:48:41.000 Yeah.

01:48:42.000 All right.

01:48:42.000 It was literally the Soviet Union was the first country.

01:48:45.000 And Tucker was talking recently about how it was the UK's embrace of abortion that made them just sort of hate themselves as a people.

01:48:54.000 Because what you're doing is that you're devaluing your own life.

01:48:58.000 It's you're devaluing the life of your own people and devaluing the life of Americans in our sense, devaluing the life of fellow Russians in the Soviet Union sense. 0.90

01:49:06.000 And this is something where, you know, I actually, so I was over and the Polish election was held earlier this year, and this became a huge issue because abortion is still a criminal act in Poland.

01:49:16.000 It's like the only country in Europe where this is true.

01:49:19.000 And gay marriage, still not respected in Poland.

01:49:23.000 And no migrants, by the way, Poland-based.

01:49:26.000 And patriots.

01:49:28.000 And so it made me think about it that, you know, this all stems from a place.

01:49:33.000 Now, yes, Poland is also religious, but it also stems from a place where they've faced serious repression and serious, like actual oppression from invading forces and actual communism.

01:49:44.000 And so their response has been this: we need to protect our people.

01:49:50.000 And these are the steps we're going to do to put that in action.

01:49:53.000 And one of those, of course, is increasing the birth rate, doing a lot of social policies in order to increase the birth rate.

01:50:01.000 But I never really thought of abortion just outside of moral terms in the sense of what does it do to a country when, and this is the obvious person, you know, thinking where, well, you know, I don't have to have that kid if I don't want to.

01:50:15.000 Yeah.

01:50:15.000 There are options.

01:50:16.000 And then you pull that out at scale that it will lead to a lower birth rate.

01:50:21.000 It simply does.

01:50:21.000 Yeah.

01:50:22.000 Well, in Britain, Literally, the latest NHS data is that one in three pregnancies ends in an abortion.

01:50:28.000 So 33% of British fetuses are being aborted.

01:50:34.000 Babies, right?

01:50:34.000 Yeah.

01:50:35.000 I know what you mean.

01:50:36.000 The Mayans.

01:50:37.000 The Mayans.

01:50:37.000 Everyone knows in the child sacrifice, very infamous, the Aztecs.

01:50:41.000 There was an estimate with the Aztec Empire that the human sacrifice was 1 to 2% of the population.

01:50:48.000 So you can extrapolate that about 2% of their children were sacrificed and whatnot.

01:50:54.000 And the Spanish exterminated them off the face of the planet. 1.00

01:50:57.000 So you're saying that our people sacrificed more children than the Mayans and Aztecs. 0.50

01:51:02.000 By exorbitantly higher.

01:51:04.000 And so it's the Spanish completely exterminated three different civilizations off the face of the planet for far less than what's being conducted in the West at scale, at volume right now. 0.73

01:51:13.000 Again, Catholic. 0.95

01:51:16.000 Point for you guys.

01:51:18.000 Let's see.

01:51:20.000 Luther was still speaking.

01:51:22.000 Can't sleep easy.

01:51:25.000 He says, with all this Charlie thing and how the left reacted to it, do you believe that could give the Somalians and Afghans the thought that violence is okay to stop the deportations?

01:51:35.000 Yes, man.

01:51:36.000 I think they already think the Somalians about violence. 0.95

01:51:41.000 Yeah, that's kind of where I'm at.

01:51:43.000 I think that the Afghans and the Somalians already would imagine that violence is acceptable. 1.00

01:51:48.000 Yeah.

01:51:48.000 Trump was saying like they're not good at anything in Somalia except like pirates.

01:51:53.000 It's like pirating.

01:51:55.000 Yeah.

01:51:55.000 Just look.

01:51:56.000 They are pretty good at that.

01:51:56.000 I'll give them that.

01:51:57.000 They're good at that.

01:51:58.000 Just look at the levels of violence in those countries compared to the United States.

01:52:02.000 Yeah.

01:52:02.000 You know, and I think that it's, it's, it goes without saying that violence is something that those cultures are far more comfortable with than your average American.

01:52:15.000 It's a PVP server over there.

01:52:16.000 Yeah.

01:52:17.000 It's great.

01:52:18.000 No, I mean, and Trump was right when he said, name anything functional out of that country.

01:52:24.000 Anything at all whatsoever.

01:52:25.000 Nothing.

01:52:26.000 Just no.

01:52:26.000 And so this, you know, to your point about certain, you know, certain people and certain, you know, have certain talents, right?

01:52:33.000 That's, that's, there you go.

01:52:35.000 And their piracy is like really dysgenic.

01:52:36.000 Like, you know, you think about like European pirates and the golden age of American pirates.

01:52:41.000 They had like swag on.

01:52:42.000 They had like a cool hat.

01:52:43.000 Like, you know, they had like a code, too.

01:52:45.000 They were like rules too.

01:52:46.000 They had some.

01:52:47.000 They just had aura.

01:52:47.000 You look at the small, they're rolled up with like sweatpants with like a gun that barely works.

01:52:50.000 It's like, what are like sloppy?

01:52:53.000 Nothing.

01:52:54.000 Haven't cleaned the AK and grandfather around it. 0.69

01:52:57.000 They're wearing like sweatpants and like drinks.

01:52:59.000 That's the point.

01:53:00.000 It's like the most wild thing ever.

01:53:02.000 All right.

01:53:04.000 Let's see.

01:53:04.000 We got SF Camp.

01:53:07.000 C, was it?

01:53:08.000 SF Campbell, actually.

01:53:09.000 SF Campbell says, POTUS National Security Strategy, allegedly leaked, proposes a core five alliance between the U.S., Russia, China, India, and Japan, identified as civilizational populist cultures.

01:53:21.000 This is to choke out the European Union and downgrade global influence of the far leftist European countries.

01:53:26.000 Let's talk about abolition of EU.

01:53:28.000 It's not my business what the EU does.

01:53:32.000 And I don't think that it's good for the United States to believe that that we can align with China or Russia.

01:53:38.000 But I do think that it is good to focus on the Western Hemisphere, really put some effort into the Monroe Doctrine and to do our best to root out Russian and Chinese influence in South America. 0.77

01:53:50.000 But I don't know what you guys.

01:53:52.000 I mean, I'll put it this way.

01:53:53.000 I don't know that there was a call for an alliance between those five countries.

01:53:57.000 That may be a little bit maximalist.

01:54:01.000 But I think the idea would be more, hey, what if we stop provoking these countries?

01:54:07.000 What if instead of having a policy of we want to provoke Russia into war and we want to provoke China into war?

01:54:13.000 What if we'd rather say, okay, we're simply separate countries with separate interests, but perhaps, perhaps we have areas where our interests might align with, like, for example, space exploration, which is something that the United States and Russia do on a regular basis and have continued to do so, by the way, or Arctic exploration, which, again, energy, there's so many things that, and we're able to do so because at the end of the day, right?

01:54:37.000 This is something neocons will never tell you, but you're not just going to like eliminate these countries from the face of the planet.

01:54:43.000 Like China will always be there. 0.98

01:54:44.000 Russia will always be there. 0.98

01:54:46.000 India will always be there. 1.00

01:54:47.000 So you have to figure out a way to deal with it and just be adults about it.

01:54:51.000 Just be adults.

01:54:53.000 You're smirking.

01:54:54.000 What do you got?

01:54:55.000 Don't why are you smirking what I said? 0.65

01:54:56.000 Biggest black pillow of the night. 0.68

01:54:57.000 India will always be there. 1.00

01:54:59.000 India will always be there. 1.00

01:55:00.000 Oh my God.

01:55:02.000 John, did you have something you wanted to add to the class?

01:55:04.000 I am a big fan of everyone here, and I'm just soaking it all in.

01:55:08.000 Happy to be here.

01:55:09.000 All right.

01:55:09.000 Hello.

01:55:10.000 Mrs. Kateriffic says, and this is a long one, but it's good.

01:55:13.000 How are we supposed to not feel demoralized by everything right now when critical thinking shows us Trump has decided to mesh with the swamp?

01:55:20.000 I have three family members who were hardcore Trump voters the last three elections and they've been disillusioned.

01:55:25.000 Not because of Candace, but because Trump himself has fumbled a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.

01:55:30.000 To normal people, we see him going after Thomas Massey while sucking up to Lindsey Graham.

01:55:34.000 He went after MTG, but he's silent on rhinos.

01:55:38.000 When has he ever gone after rhinos like this?

01:55:41.000 This administration is gaslighting us just like the last one was and people are sick of it.

01:55:46.000 And despite influencers saying it doesn't matter, the handling of Epstein does matter because when you see that behavior along with no Doge, no Elon Musk, no spending cuts, it feels like we've been fooled.

01:55:56.000 Long-winded, but that's my question.

01:55:57.000 Also, I'm one of the Discord members who met my husband on here, married one and a half months ago.

01:56:01.000 So thanks, staff.

01:56:02.000 Oh, wow.

01:56:03.000 Congratulations.

01:56:03.000 That's great to see.

01:56:04.000 Congrats.

01:56:05.000 That's awesome.

01:56:06.000 Look, I say this a lot.

01:56:08.000 A lot of the things that people hope for Trump to do, the president himself doesn't have the ability to do or maintain because it's done through executive orders.

01:56:17.000 Nobody likes to look at how the sausage is made in D.C.

01:56:20.000 And it is disheartening.

01:56:21.000 I understand and I agree.

01:56:23.000 But in my opinion, Donald Trump has done the best that he can with most of the issues.

01:56:30.000 I do agree that the Epstein stuff has been a has been a fumble and it was bad overall.

01:56:36.000 But I do think that if you look at the grand scheme of things, Donald Trump has done far better than any president in the past 15, 20 years.

01:56:44.000 And I know that John Doyle has some thoughts on this.

01:56:46.000 I respect your opinion so much, and I'm so glad you have it.

01:56:50.000 And, you know, I understand what you're saying, but like at a certain point, I saw this yesterday or something.

01:56:54.000 Like the first term for president, whether it's like Trump, you know, in 17, Obama, Bush, the amount of bills they pass in their first term was like in the excess.

01:57:03.000 It was like 80, 90, 100 or something.

01:57:04.000 Trump now, like Trump 2.0 in his first year has passed five bills.

01:57:08.000 Do we not have like majority in chambers of congress?

01:57:11.000 Like, so what's going on?

01:57:12.000 And, you know, going after like MTG rather than someone like Lindsey Graham, I'm not the biggest Lindsey Graham fan.

01:57:17.000 You're not going to see me like, you know, casting this guy as like the ideal Republican or something.

01:57:21.000 But because he's been around longer in the swamp, he knows how the game is played.

01:57:26.000 And Trump is somebody who likes it when people are loyal to him and likes it when they don't cause problems for him, which is, I guess, a really weird temperamental characteristic of his.

01:57:34.000 And someone like MTG has gone out of her way to like cause problems for Trump and for his administration, even like Thomas Massey.

01:57:41.000 Like I have to hear all the time about how Thomas Massey is this based America first patriot.

01:57:46.000 This is a guy who co-sponsored bills to increase the amount of immigrants who are coming in here on visas.

01:57:51.000 This is a guy who voted against Trump's wall and he says it's because he's a fiscal conservative.

01:57:54.000 So it's like on paper, this guy has allied himself when it mattered most with Democrats.

01:58:00.000 It can be for whatever little principle he wants it to be, but do you think Democrats care about that?

01:58:04.000 It's like, hey, do we want this guy to impede Trump's agenda?

01:58:06.000 Well, is he doing it because he agrees with us or because he's got his own little reason?

01:58:08.000 Like, do you think they actually care about that?

01:58:10.000 Or even the BBB actually providing spending to enact the or the funding to enact the agenda that is going to outline Trump's second administration.

01:58:18.000 We needed Republicans on board.

01:58:19.000 Where was Thomas Massey?

01:58:20.000 He was against it because we shouldn't be spending more money.

01:58:22.000 Let me let you know a little secret.

01:58:24.000 If we don't like win, the money's not going to matter.

01:58:27.000 The currency is not going to matter.

01:58:28.000 We're going to lose.

01:58:29.000 Well, we're racking up more debt.

01:58:31.000 We are going to have to solve that at a later time, unfortunately, because we basically need to just like take money and use it to fund our agenda to prevent communists from being in power again.

01:58:40.000 If we fail at that, debt, I mean, you're going to get all of that anyway.

01:58:45.000 So I understand what you're saying.

01:58:47.000 Like, is the second Trump administration exactly what I want it to be?

01:58:50.000 No.

01:58:51.000 Am I frustrated that Trump is like fighting off young staffers every day who are rushing in trying to push the fix everything button and he's like gatekeeping it?

01:58:57.000 Like, yeah, I wish he wouldn't do that.

01:58:59.000 However, this is politics.

01:59:00.000 You know, you were talking about the Leviathan that is the global left.

01:59:04.000 And we have Donald Trump in the White House.

01:59:07.000 That's it. 1.00

01:59:08.000 We are trying to write a shit. 0.99

01:59:09.000 We're cold starting something that has never been meant to function as a representation of the will of the American people. 0.99

01:59:15.000 And actually, when it is functioning, it's working directly against those interests.

01:59:18.000 So frankly, 11, 12 months in, this is beyond.

01:59:21.000 I'm probably, well, no, I mean, Jackson, I am one of the biggest Trump shills working today.

01:59:26.000 And even I am frankly like far more optimistic about what we've seen just in year one than I would have realistically expected like prior to that, you know?

01:59:36.000 So I understand what you're saying, but at the same time, you know, we have to understand.

01:59:40.000 You saw that clip that was going around the other day.

01:59:42.000 It was a hot mic where Trump is like, I can't get my confirmation.

01:59:45.000 Well, like, what's going on?

01:59:46.000 You have to understand there are all of these swamp creatures who are like, I'm just going to bide my time, dude, because I saw what they did to you.

01:59:53.000 I saw what they did to Charlie Kirk.

01:59:55.000 I saw what they did to your allies, indicting them, your supporters, putting them in prison.

01:59:59.000 I rather like my, you know, four-star hotels, my black car service, my millions of dollars a year for book deals, speeches where I get to go around and say, we need to do the right thing.

02:00:09.000 And all these beautiful-hearted people, right, are saying, so true, so true.

02:00:13.000 Okay, well, they're saying the right thing and there's doing the right thing.

02:00:16.000 And the only reason that anything good has been done in the last 10 years is because of Donald Trump.

02:00:20.000 Unfortunately, that just happens to be the case for better or worse.

02:00:22.000 That could be why they, I don't know, mugshotted him.

02:00:25.000 That could be why they tried to assassinate him.

02:00:28.000 And so it's very easy to tell ourselves that now that he's back and he's trying to right this ship, that he finally betrayed us.

02:00:34.000 It's like, dude, he could have betrayed us at any point.

02:00:36.000 You think there weren't deals for this guy where it's like, hey, just drop out and we'll like let your cultural status remain.

02:00:41.000 You can keep your money.

02:00:42.000 We won't go after you.

02:00:42.000 We won't go after your family.

02:00:44.000 Just like stop.

02:00:45.000 That was always on the table for this guy up until the arrest, up until the assassination attempt.

02:00:49.000 And he never quit.

02:00:50.000 So insofar as we have like 10 years of his behavior in that direction, the idea that what we're seeing now being like underdeveloped fruits would be because of some betrayal or that he's meshing with the swamp, like you say, at a certain point, you have to decide, has this guy earned your loyalty?

02:01:04.000 Has this guy earned your trust?

02:01:05.000 Well, no politician has.

02:01:07.000 Okay, dude.

02:01:08.000 Like at a certain point, I made a personal decision to like pledge loyalty to this guy, someone who I think actually does have my best interest at heart.

02:01:14.000 Not because he's a politician, but because he like took a bullet for me, because the guy who died for our country believed that about Trump and believed that about Vance, Charlie Kirk.

02:01:24.000 So at a certain point, like you just have to make that decision whether or not you want to throw your weight behind this guy or you just want to be like, you know, no, he's a part of it.

02:01:31.000 I'm going to wait for what?

02:01:33.000 Who's the other game in town?

02:01:34.000 We have nothing.

02:01:35.000 True, yeah.

02:01:36.000 Oh, it's all these people are like, yeah, ankle biting and everything.

02:01:39.000 And same thing, like, I'm like Trump show, et cetera, et cetera.

02:01:42.000 That's what people say.

02:01:43.000 And I agree.

02:01:43.000 It's a good assessment.

02:01:45.000 I don't shill him to shill him.

02:01:46.000 I shill him because he's good.

02:01:47.000 Because he's good.

02:01:48.000 It's like, if you, but if you told me on January 20th, we'd be at net negative migration by the end of the year, I'd be like, I mean, that'd be nice.

02:01:53.000 Yeah.

02:01:54.000 Like, this is this is policy.

02:01:55.000 And like five years ago, if you advocated for net negative migration on a conservative panel, you gotta tossed off.

02:02:00.000 Now it's policy of the United States.

02:02:02.000 Just read through the NSS unbelievable stuff.

02:02:06.000 I mean, it's a complete reorientation of the State Department in a year.

02:02:10.000 I mean, look, there's criticism, et cetera, et cetera, but it's like, look at the bigger picture.

02:02:15.000 We're not just advancing the ball down the field.

02:02:17.000 We're breaking 10-yard, 20-yard runs.

02:02:18.000 Yeah.

02:02:19.000 Yeah.

02:02:19.000 I think that that's really one of the things that people get hung up when you bring up the NSS.

02:02:23.000 The policy side of it, right?

02:02:25.000 That's the thing that people have a difficult time kind of digesting.

02:02:28.000 They want to see immediate results.

02:02:30.000 They want to see, they assume that President Trump is the emperor, the God Emperor of Donald Trump.

02:02:36.000 And whereas there are some people that would love to see that, that's just not realistic when you think about the way that DC works and how our system is set up.

02:02:44.000 I would just add to all of this that specifically when you mentioned Massey, that Trump is a counterpuncher.

02:02:50.000 So if you come at him, he's going to come back.

02:02:53.000 That's the one thing that we've known about him since even before he was in politics. 0.94

02:02:57.000 And Thomas Massey has been going around saying that Trump is a pedophile who's part of Epstein's pedophile ring and just doing this over and over and over.

02:03:07.000 So I remember that this happened with Ron DeSantis when people, when he first started running and people were like, why is Trump attacking Asantis? 0.56

02:03:17.000 Why is he doing this?

02:03:18.000 Like, well, he's running against him.

02:03:20.000 So to run against the man who put you in office, to run against the man who built your political career, took you from a congressional backbencher and made you governor of Florida is, again, it's just a huge betrayal.

02:03:33.000 It's a matter of like we were talking about heel turns earlier, right?

02:03:35.000 Right?

02:03:35.000 Massive heel turn.

02:03:37.000 So why would you not expect him to respond once you've done something like this?

02:03:42.000 But I noticed something that's interesting from a lot of people who say this is they never once look at the behavior of the like the initial person, right?

02:03:50.000 The actual person who initiated.

02:03:52.000 They only look at the response from Trump.

02:03:54.000 It's like, I can't believe he's saying that.

02:03:55.000 I can't believe he's saying that.

02:03:56.000 But if you just put it in context, then okay, like maybe you realize he's responding to something that possibly didn't have to happen, but did.

02:04:05.000 And so he's responding in kind.

02:04:07.000 Yeah.

02:04:07.000 Well, it's like, yeah, because Trump was an ardent supporter of MTG.

02:04:10.000 What?

02:04:10.000 He just changed his mind one day.

02:04:11.000 Is that it's like, no, go analyze her behavior and you'll see very clearly why he's disgruntled.

02:04:16.000 Yeah.

02:04:16.000 And a lot of people don't remember the first admin.

02:04:18.000 I mean, the first admin, we couldn't even get funding for the wall.

02:04:20.000 We were getting funding for goat farming in Nepal.

02:04:24.000 I mean, what the hell?

02:04:25.000 You know, and that's why even now, when people criticize him now, it's like, dude, this administration is 20 times better than it was back in the first term.

02:04:34.000 The first term, we couldn't get anything done except for corporate taxes.

02:04:37.000 Now, we're giving DHS a freaking military budget to get out there and deport people and try to achieve that MAGA agenda. 0.98

02:04:45.000 So, you know, when people try to anchor bite and say, oh, he's nothing.

02:04:49.000 He hasn't done anything.

02:04:50.000 It's like, no, he's done a lot of things.

02:04:51.000 He stopped the mass migration that was happening under Biden where you were getting, what, 5 million illegals in a year?

02:04:58.000 Now it's at net zero and we're deporting people.

02:05:01.000 And it's like, yes, we've stopped the bleeding and we have a lot more to do, but it's only been what?

02:05:06.000 We're coming up at one year.

02:05:08.000 We still have three more years to get things done.

02:05:10.000 So in January, in January, all the hiring kicks in.

02:05:13.000 So all that, all the goat farming and apologies, quick, quick note.

02:05:17.000 I don't think we're actually fun, like doing that just to fund goat farming in Nepal, like all those little like random things.

02:05:22.000 That's money laundering.

02:05:23.000 Okay.

02:05:23.000 That's money laundering.

02:05:24.000 And that's just the name on top.

02:05:26.000 You know what I mean?

02:05:26.000 You know, Trump, when he was like, we invaded Iraq and he was like, all this, it's like, where's the oil?

02:05:30.000 It's probably the same thing as like, where's the goats?

02:05:32.000 Yeah, but where are the goats?

02:05:33.000 That would be the USAID stuff, and it's okay.

02:05:36.000 This is very obviously just money laundering.

02:05:38.000 Yeah, got it.

02:05:39.000 All right.

02:05:39.000 So, we got one more quick one that I'm just going to read off.

02:05:42.000 I don't think that there's a whole lot to say about it, but what is it?

02:05:46.000 Valkyrus from, he's a Dane.

02:05:49.000 He says, So, Trump promised you'd take Greenland off our hands.

02:05:52.000 Do you guys still think that's on the table?

02:05:54.000 Are we going to continue to have to waste resources?

02:05:56.000 We should.

02:05:57.000 We certainly should.

02:05:58.000 We certainly should.

02:05:59.000 Big Greenland guy.

02:06:00.000 Greenland in spirit, Greenland is already ours.

02:06:03.000 We have a base there.

02:06:05.000 It's in the northern, it's in the northern North America.

02:06:07.000 It's in our hemisphere.

02:06:09.000 It's on North America.

02:06:10.000 So, in spirit, it's America.

02:06:13.000 Yeah, I would even say it was ours by right of conquest in World War II because which country deployed their military there to defend Greenland.

02:06:21.000 Oh, was it any of Europe?

02:06:23.000 Was it the British? 0.76

02:06:24.000 No, it was the United States of America. 1.00

02:06:26.000 To your point, we're stupid for putting our military there and not declaring sovereignty over it. 0.93

02:06:31.000 So, yeah, according to when it comes to Greenland, the EU is already BTFO. 0.96

02:06:34.000 And literally, we already have military control of it.

02:06:37.000 So, listen, share the show with your friends, smash the like button.

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02:06:43.000 We're going to wrap it here.

02:06:44.000 John Doyle, you got anything you want to go ahead and shout out?

02:06:46.000 Yeah, I do a show called The John Doyle Show, which you should go listen to.

02:06:50.000 And it's on YouTube, Apple, Spotify, all that stuff, where we talk about politics and all sorts of interesting stuff.

02:06:56.000 So, Patriot.

02:06:57.000 Charlie Kirk wrote one book before he died.

02:07:01.000 It was called Stop in the Name of God.

02:07:03.000 I have a copy of it right here.

02:07:04.000 Erica Kirk wrote the foreword after Charlie's murder.

02:07:07.000 And this book is not about politics.

02:07:09.000 This book is about the importance of taking a day, get off your phone, reset.

02:07:15.000 He talks about health, talks about spirituality.

02:07:18.000 You connect with your family, connect with yourself, connect with God.

02:07:20.000 It's a great thing Charlie did this throughout his life.

02:07:23.000 He took one day off per week.

02:07:25.000 We're called to do this, by the way.

02:07:27.000 God did this.

02:07:27.000 On the seventh day, God rested.

02:07:29.000 And Charlie really believed that.

02:07:31.000 And he talks about, by the way, how he, you know, he went from this guy who would never sleep and pull all-nighters.

02:07:38.000 And, you know, I'm just going to say, man, there's some images that you could see of Charlie when he was a little bit getting a little unhealthy there, where he was, you know, the seed oils were winning.

02:07:48.000 And then he switches.

02:07:51.000 And this book kind of talks about how he regained control of that by reformatting his thinking to understanding that if you take that rest isn't a sign of weakness.

02:08:03.000 It's not like, oh, I'm being lazy.

02:08:04.000 It's actually understanding how your body works, how your soul works, how your life works, and it's investing in yourself so that you can do more.

02:08:12.000 So the book is called Stop in the Name of God.

02:08:15.000 And you can should go check it out.

02:08:17.000 There we go.

02:08:18.000 Yeah, you can follow me on X and Instagram at Realtate Brown.

02:08:21.000 Culture channel this weekend across the pond with Connor Tomlinson.

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02:08:26.000 Tomorrow, we covered the Tyler Robinson situation, kind of what creates these Tyler Robinson types.

02:08:30.000 So we break that down.

02:08:31.000 And then on Sunday, we got Aura McIntyre.

02:08:33.000 Great interview. 0.99

02:08:35.000 We discuss why the GOP are so retarded. 0.99

02:08:37.000 So go check that out. 0.98

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