In this episode of the Stock Market Movers podcast, host Ryan Henderson talks about the latest in the Epstein scandal, Tulsi Gabbard's treasonous tweet, and why silver and gold are a great investment right now.
00:03:00.000Tulsi Gabbard has announced she has referred Obama to the DOJ for a criminal investigation pertaining to treason.
00:03:09.000Now, they're not actually saying publicly that there are formal charges, but Tulsi Gabbard has said this was a treasonous conspiracy in a years-long coup, and that now she has referred this matter to the DOJ to investigate its criminal implications.
00:03:23.000And you know what I'm going to say about it?
00:03:28.000I mean, I'm half kidding, but the reality is right now there's two stories, and we were trying to figure out which one was the league because the other is.
00:03:34.000Across all the corporate press, they're saying Donald Trump is named in the Epstein files.
00:03:39.000And remember, Elon Musk said the same thing.
00:03:41.000The question is, is his name passively in the files like it mentions that Epstein had been to his parties or that Trump had been around for certain instances?
00:03:50.000But the corporate press is running that as their major headline.
00:03:52.000So let me just stress right now, there are two stories.
00:03:56.000The current presidential administration of the Republican Party is accusing a previous Democratic presidential administration of engaging in treason for which the penalty is death and a coup against the United States.
00:04:10.000At the same time, Democrats and the corporate press are accusing Donald Trump of being a child sex trafficker.
00:04:16.000So when you have two groups at the apex of these power structures basically accusing each other of high crimes, like serious high crimes, I don't know what you'd call it.
00:04:27.000Eric Weinstein called it an administrative civil war.
00:05:30.000My friends, you know, the more I think the numbers, the more I get why so many financial individuals, experts are calling silver one of the most undervalued assets.
00:05:39.000I mean, here I am talking about the apocalypse, the political apocalypse.
00:05:42.000And indeed, I've got a stack of silver here on me as well because I do believe that silver and gold are good.
00:06:00.000They're talking about building these massive data centers all over the planet.
00:06:04.000Facebook's building, I think Meta's doing massive data centers.
00:06:07.000In order to operate all of this, silver is a key component.
00:06:10.000Not to mention, they want to replace all cars with self-driving cars.
00:06:13.000In my opinion, I mean, I recommend you guys reach out to Lear Capital to learn more about this and get a trusted expert to talk to you about it.
00:06:20.000My opinion, I think this is going to drive the price way up, and especially with talk of electric Uber and the wait modes and all that stuff taking over.
00:06:30.000Right now, we're in a multi-year deficit.
00:08:15.000I always take the back road because that's how I find out what's really going on in the country, in particular in the places that decide election cycles, like places like Erie, Pennsylvania, Luzern County, Pennsylvania, or in Wisconsin.
00:08:30.000And it just gives me a better understanding about how people feel about whether it's the issues you were just talking about right now or how people felt in the lead up to the election cycle.
00:08:59.000From the post-millennial DNI, Tulsi Gabbard refers Obama to DOJ to investigate criminal implications of revelations on the Russia collusion hoax.
00:09:10.000Earlier today, Tulsi Gabbard released documents showing that an assessment had been made that Obama knowingly ordered Brennan to release information that they knew to be bogus in an effort to smear Donald Trump.
00:09:26.000According to this report, actually, let me just pull this straight up so you can see it.
00:09:29.000We've got this document here, September 18th, 2020, with a couple interesting pages.
00:09:35.000Notably on page three, they make a few points.
00:10:15.000And we can't include this in any kind of real report.
00:10:17.000Which brings us to the final page, which is where it gets interesting.
00:10:21.000On the final page, it reads, acting on President Obama's orders, DCIA Brennan directed a full review and publication of raw human intelligence source information that had been collected before the election.
00:10:36.000CIA officers said that some of this information had been held on the orders of DCIA, while other reporting had been judged by experienced CIA officers to have not met longstanding publication standards.
00:10:47.000That is, they had this potential tidbit from a human source that was a sentence fragment and didn't prove anything and barely insinuated anything.
00:11:47.000I spoke with Thomas Massey, and he says that Speaker Johnson doesn't want this vote to come to the floor and that people were thanking him, somewhat facetiously said this, because they're basically getting an extra day off before they go on August recess.
00:12:04.000The center of power of the Democratic base, the establishment, the Uniparty, is accusing Donald Trump through the corporate press and Democratic politicians of being a child sex trafficker partying with Epstein.
00:12:15.000The sitting president and his director of national intelligence, they are accusing the former president, a former president, of engaging in treason against the United States, for which the crime is punishable by death.
00:12:28.000I don't know how much further this could possibly escalate in the political space.
00:12:35.000It's not even like it feels like it's about escalating.
00:12:37.000It's like the news is always so dire all the time that, you know, the joke is nothing ever happens, but it's actually nothing ever changes.
00:12:44.000And it's that people are desensitized to these types of over-the-top and sensationalist headlines where even if all of this is true, people have just been bogged down by so much information that they don't know how to take it anymore.
00:12:56.000The people who have made up their minds about these people made them up long ago.
00:13:00.000I don't buy that anybody here that thinks that Trump is a pedophile didn't already believe that there was something unfixable about him beforehand.
00:13:10.000The people that are hearing that Obama is a treasonous person already believe that Barack Obama ruined this country years ago.
00:13:17.000Whatever your opinion is, you're not swaying anybody to a different side on these issues.
00:13:21.000It's just more bluster for various news outlets to make money.
00:13:26.000Well, I mean, I don't think that the motivation is to make news outlets profit, do you?
00:13:31.000I think I'm saying that like you're like none of the people that are looking at this now are going to make anything out of this that's new.
00:13:38.000The only thing that's really going to be gained here is news outlets are going to make money by printing stuff about this.
00:13:44.000Do you think that there's any substance to any of this?
00:13:46.000I mean, to the Barack Obama one, I have no idea, obviously, if I haven't read through that document, but as for the Trump one, I don't know.
00:13:53.000Like, again, I don't know for all of this stuff.
00:13:56.000I just know that most of the people that are going to consume this media have already made up their mind about these things.
00:14:01.000I saw people talking about it in the comments section.
00:14:03.000They said, look, I'm sick of Trump in the news.
00:15:53.000I think Republicans, conservatives, libertarians tend to trust the press less than Democrats.
00:15:59.000But even Democrats have felt the implication of the press not being honest with them about Biden, right?
00:16:09.000And about his health and about his capabilities.
00:16:14.000So I think that to your point, your point, a lot of people are looking at these stories and saying, well, the press is going to get a lot of clicks.
00:16:24.000They're going to get a lot of money from this.
00:16:26.000And it's not going to move the needle.
00:17:43.000And I want to clarify that they're in the same room at Trump's wedding.
00:17:46.000But you see how phrasing can manipulate people's expectations.
00:17:49.000And it is media framing because when the first documentaries came out about Epstein after all this stuff, Break After Suicide, there was a Hulu documentary and then there was like an Amazon Prime documentary.
00:17:59.000And both of them used the pictures of Epstein and Trump as the cover of the documentary because that's a way to frame the story a certain way that's beneficial to a particular political affiliation, right?
00:18:28.000Like you said, the people that have already made up their minds have made up their minds.
00:18:31.000And I don't think that whether it be video evidence, new pictures, testimony, someone swears they were there, people coming out saying that they were raped by Donald Trump, none of this actually matters when it comes to the people that have already made up their minds.
00:19:57.000If there was something in the Epstein files, it would have been out there.
00:20:02.000They knew for a very long time there was a problem with Biden.
00:20:06.000They knew for a very long time there was a problem with Harris.
00:20:10.000They also understood that Biden was always a fluke and he was likely not going to win.
00:20:17.000So if there was truly something in there, they would have released it just to do anything to put the hammer on Trump.
00:20:26.000Look at all the lawfare that they used against him.
00:20:28.000Well, I think the Biden admin didn't want to open the can of worms that was the Epstein files because they were confident that Letitia James was going to mop up the entire situation.
00:20:56.000That turns into a huge, huge situation where they were just confident they could just brush it under, have Letitia James mop it up, whoever the DA in Atlanta was.
00:21:04.000But save for Hillary Clinton, save for the Clintons, not particularly Hillary, but save for the name Clinton.
00:21:10.000There wasn't really a lot of people that were associated with Barack Obama or the Biden administration that have been implicated, correct?
00:21:37.000That's at least the perspective I see of why if there truly was something damning and they were insistent on getting Trump in jail, they probably, there is some names on there that would have created a huge mess for the Biden Edmund.
00:22:22.000On Wednesday, the journal reported that Bondi and another top DOJ official informed the president in May that his name appeared in the Epstein files along with the names of other high-profile figures as part of what sources characterize as unverified hearsay.
00:22:35.000Senior DOJ officials also reportedly told Trump they did not plan to release more information about the investigation to the public in order to protect victims' identities and because the documents contained child sex abuse materials.
00:22:45.000Trump responded by saying he would defer to the DOJ's judgment on the matter.
00:22:49.000Notice how Donald Trump said, release all credible information.
00:22:54.000The hearsay may have been that Democrats and even Trump's own intelligence, heads of intelligence, included unsourced and unverified information.
00:23:06.000That's going to make him look bad and he doesn't want it released.
00:23:08.000That's why he's calling it a Democrat hoax.
00:23:17.000I think Trump is probably, the point he's making is they put unverified, unsourced BS, just like Russia Gate in the Epstein files, implicating me.
00:23:49.000But, you know, there are clues in the words that he uses and he gives them to us.
00:23:58.000They should release as much information as they can.
00:24:00.000I don't care if it incriminates Trump or if it makes Trump look bad.
00:24:04.000I don't think there's anything actually incriminating when it comes to Trump.
00:24:08.000I don't think there's anything illegal that he's done, but he's probably worried about looking bad or being associated.
00:24:13.000Just put it all out there because this is only making everything worse.
00:24:16.000I don't see, unless he's actually broken the law, which in that case, you know, then there should be criminal prosecution.
00:24:26.000But if he hasn't, put everything out there because this is just making everything worse.
00:24:29.000If you want to play a game of power, okay, you want to get involved in spy craft and all that stuff, Donald Trump's handling of this matter is one of the worst I have ever seen.
00:24:38.000Literally just put out fake information.
00:24:40.000Like, I'm not actually suggesting Trump should do this.
00:24:43.000I'm saying if the Trump administration was competent on the matter, based on what we know about the story, if we assume it to be true, like let's just entertain a hypothetical, that hypothetical, Trump is doing this all on purpose.
00:27:32.000I had an obligation in that role to project strength, all the grit and the exceptionalism and the never back down that we were supposed to stand for.
00:27:42.000And so when you think that way, when you want to project a certain image, not just of yourself, but you take it to the next level and you want to project it about the country, I think that gives a little more insight as to maybe why he doesn't want this out, even if the likelihood that it's not something in there that would be damaging to him.
00:28:12.000And they'll make the argument that you can't prosecute someone on unverified hearsay, but the hearsay could be like Trump was with underage girls in Epstein doing who knows what.
00:28:21.000And so Trump is going to be like, you can't release that.
00:28:24.000Even though it's not going to be strong enough evidence for any kind of prosecution, court of public opinion doesn't work that way.
00:28:29.000But again, that being said, it doesn't explain how Trump is handling it the way he is, which is the stupidest mishandling of any kind of story I've ever seen.
00:28:36.000Because this has been going on for how long now?
00:28:38.000Like this is dragged out over the, like, our news cycle is so lightning fast now.
00:28:43.000The fact that this has dominated the news cycle for as long as it has is the proof that it's being handled poorly.
00:28:49.000Well, can I just tell you guys one thing?
00:28:51.000And this might shock you, but this is the way I do reporting.
00:28:55.000I don't, I go out and I talk to people.
00:28:59.000And when this first broke, the first place I was at was a rodeo.
00:29:04.000You can't get more centrally located with people that are Trump supporters or more patriotic.
00:30:13.000The things that are important are kitchen table issues.
00:30:16.000The things that are going to matter come the midterms are kitchen table issues.
00:30:20.000And the things that are going to matter come the next presidential election are kitchen table issues.
00:30:24.000The economy is the most important thing to everybody all the time, whether they want to admit it or not.
00:30:31.000The people that are online, that are seeing this stuff, that are watching podcasts, they'll make a lot of noise and they're very passionate about it, but it is a small segment.
00:31:48.000Well, I mean, that's why I say, like, for me, the priority is kitchen table issues, Obama conspiracy stuff, then Epstein stuff.
00:31:56.000And it's literal political scandal triage.
00:31:59.000If Trump doesn't get his agenda through, then people don't vote in the midterms.
00:32:03.000Democrats gain power and Epstein gets away with it.
00:32:06.000If Obama and his cohort aren't held accountable for crossfire hurricane Russia gate stuff, Democrats will fight and regain power and then Epstein gets away with it.
00:32:17.000Then after those things are locked and secured, we can talk about releasing the Epstein files.
00:32:21.000Because I will tell you this, with Trump's resistance and everything that the Trump campaign, or I'm sorry, the campaign, the administration is saying about it and Trump himself, you will get nowhere Near a single word with Democrats in power.
00:32:34.000They were in power under Obama when this was going on.
00:33:00.000I want to see the Epstein list stuff come out just so that way we can put it to bed.
00:33:04.000I would love to, you know, if there are prosecutions that are necessary, make the arrests necessary.
00:33:10.000The people that have broken the law, put them in jail, and then the people that are completely obsessed with it can stop worrying about it.
00:33:45.000If the power structures of the political system in this country are accusing each other of high crimes, where do we go politically?
00:33:54.000I mean, if we as a country exist where the Democrats say Trump is a PETA who worked with Epstein and then do nothing about it, nothing happens, it's like, do you really believe that to be true?
00:34:04.000And if Trump accuses Obama of treason and then Obama never gets arrested and then the Democrats go to jail, we're just basically all supposed to sit here and pretend that this country is in this disheveled state and just keep operating?
00:34:17.000Are we supposed to keep living normal lives under the belief that they have told us that these crimes are ongoing?
00:34:26.000The thing about Obama that I find most interesting, and I remember I covered him, interviewed him, and when Trump got into office, I remember how robustly my profession questioned him, pushed him.
00:35:08.000And so as things are, you know, when it comes to Obama and the idea that there was some sort of conspiracy, people are more willing to believe that because they don't believe he was ever properly vetted ever.
00:39:57.000It was like 04, he did have a bidding, like after the split between him and Epstein, they did have a bidding war over a property in Palm Beach 04.
00:40:15.000And look, this was all coming up again because there was a clip going around of, you know, because Stephen Colbert is throwing his hissy fit about being, you know, losing $40 million a year.
00:40:25.000And they were posting this clip from several years ago of Claire Daines on the show where she accidentally admits that like the Intel agencies are in contact with the media.
00:40:35.000And then Stephen Colbert is trying to shut her up.
00:40:46.000The thing about my profession, largely in network news, is that they all live in the same super zip codes in either New York or around Washington, D.C. And they all, you know, sort of hang out.
00:41:02.000Their kids are on the same soccer field.
00:41:05.000And they all intertwine and use each other as sources.
00:41:09.000And so it is difficult to separate them from each other and not understand that they're often working together to get stories out.
00:41:25.000I mean, that's the fact that all of them live in the same, like you said, the same zip codes, that used to be kind of the excuse for the left-leaning bias, right?
00:41:36.000It used to be where the people that were in urban areas, they were like, well, you know, of course the media has a bit of a liberal bias.
00:41:43.000They all live in cities, but they try to be fair.
00:41:48.000Even though they called middle America flyover country, they're still trying to be fair.
00:41:53.000And I think that with the election of Barack Obama and then the election of Donald Trump really is what made it clear that it's not actually about just that they have a left-wing bias.
00:42:03.000It's that they wanted that access to the Democratic Party and to the establishment.
00:42:08.000And they wanted to feel like they were actually part of the policymaking apparatus of the United States, unelected, but they were the mouthpiece of the Democrat Party and unofficially the mouthpiece of the administration.
00:42:22.000Yeah, and that's the challenge being a reporter that lives out in the middle of western Pennsylvania because, you know, I have very little access to traditional power when you think of presidents and lawmakers.
00:42:38.000But to me, the real power is the people I cover.
00:42:42.000And it's people in Erie, Pennsylvania that decided this election.
00:42:46.000It's not anybody that's having drinks at a bar in D.C. that decided anything.
00:42:52.000And I think that detachment and inability to control the people in Erie, Pennsylvania is what has led to some of the things that we have seen happen to Trump because he is such a disruptor, right?
00:43:10.000And I've never understood why we didn't think that disruption would eventually come to American politics.
00:43:18.000Everything that we do is disruption, right?
00:43:58.000The White House is making phone calls.
00:44:01.000Now, at least there's a couple people who have claimed they've had private meetings with people in the administration on the issue of Epstein.
00:44:08.000Of course, the mail buries the story, which is pertinent to the public.
00:44:12.000But they go on to mention way down below, Tim Dylan.
00:44:16.000Now, this story most people know, met with J.D. Vance.
00:44:19.000And Vance said they do not have videos of any powerful person in a compromising position.
00:44:23.000That's the party line before Market with Skepticism.
00:44:26.000That's the party line they're going with.
00:44:27.000What I told Vance is that if you don't disclose everything, you're done.
00:44:47.000Jones said, I want you to do what you were elected to do.
00:44:50.000Dylan replied, they want this to go away, but it's not going to go away until they disclose the information they have.
00:44:56.000The Daily Mail can also report that White House reached out to Charlie Kirk, the highly influential leader of the youth movement organized under TPUSA.
00:45:04.000I am not minimizing this, Kirk said in his podcast.
00:45:09.000The young men and the Gen Z audience that I represent, they are flaming mad about this stuff.
00:45:14.000Kirk explained the conservative, the conservative people he speaks to refuse to drop the issue because they want to go after the deep state of the government.
00:45:23.000Trump, increasingly irritated at the fixation of erstwhile allies, picked up the phone to Kirk.
00:45:28.000A day later, Kirk appeared to backpedal.
00:45:30.000Honestly, I'm done talking about Epstein for the time being.
00:45:32.000I'm going to trust my friends in the administration.
00:45:34.000I'm going to trust my friends in the government to do what needs to be done, solve it, balls in their hands.
00:45:59.000For his part, Sanovich told the Daily Mail he had not been leaned on by anyone in the White House to stop talking about Epstein and added that he would refuse to do so if asked.
00:46:07.000He warned this might be the only issue where the MAGA base will truly assert itself on about any other issue.
00:46:13.000Trump can drive the train wherever he wants, not on Epstein.
00:46:16.000I do believe the White House is probably making phone calls to various influencers.
00:46:47.000And when the story broke, literally the day of, I was talking to Cernovich as well as a couple others.
00:46:53.000And I got some of the information that they had put out before the embargo was lifted.
00:46:57.000And I was speaking with another journalist, and we were both kind of like, yeah, they wouldn't invite something like this because we wouldn't adhere to an embargo on something like that.
00:47:04.000And if you didn't, it would have busted their campaign.
00:47:07.000Because what they did was they brought everybody in, gave them binders, and said, wait until after the press conference with Kier Starmer before you talk about this.
00:47:15.000Then they shuttled them out the door in front of all of the fawning press where they all took pictures of them with the binders.
00:47:21.000Then they said, don't talk about it for several hours.
00:47:24.000If those individuals took that binder and said, I will not embargo this and opened it up, they would have been like, this is all publicly available information.
00:47:33.000And it would have immediately spoiled.
00:47:35.000If one person, one influencer went in there and said, this stuff is already been publicly disclosed and unredacted, all the rest of them would have been like, whoa, whoa, I'm not doing this.
00:47:48.000So they chose the people they thought wouldn't play hardball.
00:47:52.000Cernovich, to his credit, is actually in the photos walking away.
00:47:56.000It appears he's trying not to be caught because he's like, I want to read this and be respectful.
00:48:02.000And then once he did, again, he contacted me.
00:48:06.000I think I reached out to him or he reached out to me.
00:48:10.000And was like, yo, check it out almost right away.
00:48:13.000And we were like, okay, I don't know what's in those binders yet, but we got this letter that said that the information was being withheld by SDNY.
00:48:22.000And then sure enough, I think the first person to post the letter was Benny Johnson almost immediately.
00:48:29.000And everyone laughed because they're like, oh, Benny broke the embargo.
00:48:44.000But there are a handful of people that are smiling and dancing around and waving these things in the air, seemingly more excited that they're included than that they're going to be part of any kind of accountability, of which we never got any.
00:48:55.000So it looks like, at least to a certain degree, there is evidence that the White House is making phone calls to people to try and control the narrative.
00:49:06.000I mean, the Cernovich thing, that was just such a self-own if you're like a White House press person, because that's like, if you're thinking of the Epstein story, Cernovich is like one of the top guys.
00:49:16.000I mean, it'd be like getting Greta Van Sussen to like drop the white girl in Aruba, whatever that case was.
00:49:47.000I was talking about this last the last week I was on.
00:49:49.000I was like, look, people, there's like a disconnect once you start working in this medium.
00:49:53.000Like there's a disconnect between the heinousness of crimes or the seriousness of the policies and the things that are being discussed and your ability to relay that information back in the day when it was through corporate press.
00:50:06.000It was all vetted through however many sources.
00:50:08.000Now, most of it was narrative bullshit, as we know, that, you know, was fed to people in a certain way.
00:50:13.000But nowadays, it's very hard for people to tell the difference between what they're looking at through social media influencers and somebody who's like a news influencer.
00:50:22.000And it just doesn't feel like it takes that same rigorous tone, even if we know that the rigorous tone of old was all mostly just corporate approved slop as well.
00:51:46.000They don't want the earth to catch on fire or whatever.
00:51:52.000It depends on, I think when it comes to climate, I'm not trying to derail who, but I think when it comes to climate change stuff, that really depends on your age.
00:51:57.000Like, I remember when Al Gore put out the inconvenient truth in 2006 that all of the world was supposed to be underwater by now.
00:52:06.000Like, the world was supposed to have ended.
00:52:08.000And when I was a kid, when I was, you know, in the 80s, when I was a kid, it was the coming ice age and how bad everything was going to freeze.
00:52:21.000I think Democrats should roll with the pole shift thing and just start just start being like, yes, we need more solar panels and electric vehicles because the Axis, you know, the Earth is tilting.
00:52:34.000And to your point also, I imagine that if you ask those same people about the Obama scandal, they'll say, you know, maybe I think he's guilty, but it doesn't really change my life.
00:52:57.000Yeah, well, you have this thing where it's like with, you know, normal Americans, they've seen cover-up after cover-up after big story that doesn't go anywhere.
00:53:05.000So they're at the point where they're just like, I'm sure they believe everything happened in the Epsteins, but it's like they know they're not going to get anything.
00:53:10.000So what's the point of clamoring on about this bigger fish to fry?
00:53:45.000So then I have a question, and I'd like to hear everyone's input on this.
00:53:49.000Gen Z is the generation that cares the most about the Epstein stuff if you go by polling data and stuff.
00:53:57.000Gen Z is also the generation that has the most economic anxiety.
00:54:03.000They have the least actual material possessions.
00:54:07.000Why is it that Gen Z has the most significant problems when it comes to the economy, but this is also the thing that resonates with him the most?
00:54:18.000Well, let me pull up this story real quick.
00:54:58.000That wasn't, I don't know if that was an error.
00:54:59.000That being said, I don't believe Trump has lost Gen Z. And one of the arguments as to why Gen Z would be upset with Trump if this poll was correct is because he's not going far right enough.
00:55:25.000And then also it's like, like Tim said, like people on the left are like celebrating, like, see, finally, what happened to the conservative generation?
00:56:00.000Okay, yes, you know, we get the label of being panican sometimes, but we do feel like our inheritance was stolen to a large degree.
00:56:07.000So anytime that we see anything going against Trump's promise to sort of reclaim, make America great again, we take it a little bit more emotionally than older people.
00:56:20.000So then back to my question, why is it that they care the most about Epstein and they care when they have the most economic stuff to worry about?
00:58:00.000The first thing I thought was like, this is their first exposure to the idea of corruption being rooted, you know, with the idea when Trump took office that they were going to bring in a new way of doing things with the government.
00:58:10.000People who've been alive for any length of time, who know that nothing changes in the government, take that idea with perhaps more of a grain of salt.
00:58:18.000Whereas with Gen Z, because this was like maybe their first experience with that, that they're seeing that they made these promises.
00:58:26.000I don't know if it's necessary, if I, if I buy that it's necessarily that they identified with them as much, is that they identified with the message that he initially had, and they feel like they're going back on that message, and they're kind of just making the same excuses that every administration before had made.
00:58:40.000And that, like a lot of us who may be more black pilled than others, that nothing ever changes.
00:58:45.000And I also think Zoomers are really good at dehumanizing people that they don't know personally.
00:58:50.000So, like with the Epstein case, I think we're overrating.
00:58:52.000I think we're overrating the empathy of people seeing a name and a face through a screen.
00:58:57.000Because if you just scroll Instagram Reels for 10 minutes, you're going to see some of the most brutal criticism of strangers you'll ever see in your entire life.
00:59:03.000So, it's like, I wish that were the case, but I really don't think it's like an empathy thing.
00:59:08.000Cause I think even me, just because that's how we grew up, we just see like, oh, well, that doesn't happen to me.
00:59:14.000That kind of stuff doesn't happen to me or my friends.
00:59:15.000That's something that happens far away.
00:59:40.000So it's actually called the generation Jones.
00:59:43.000It's in between boomer and X. We're not really boomers, and we're not really X. And it's called Jones generation because you want what the Joneses have.
01:00:30.000I mean, yeah, I think to each other, we're probably, I would even argue, more empathetic than a lot of previous generations, like to people you know personally.
01:00:38.000The problem is we don't know that many people personally because our social structures are completely busted.
01:00:43.000Is it true that there are Gen Zers throwing their phones away?
01:00:57.000There was people, there was a thing going on for a while where influencers were buying dumb phones and then making videos about using dumb phones.
01:01:25.000When it comes to the way that Gen Z has matured, I think that the trauma that they've seen in their life, for lack of a better word, I mean, they saw the 2008 economic crash when they were little.
01:01:38.000I mean, how old were you when that happened?
01:01:54.000But there's a lot of Gen Z that had really bad experiences because of that because their families had bad experiences because of that.
01:02:02.000And then they had, you know, 10 years later, they had COVID, or 11 years, 12 years later, they had COVID, which really destroyed their, you know, their social lives.
01:02:13.000It tore, they didn't get a ton of the things that kids normally get.
01:02:17.000You know, and I think that those, then they had the whole, then they found out that COVID was a lie or there was so much around COVID that was a lie, not the actual, you know, not whether or not COVID existed, but like all of the things that went along with COVID were a lie.
01:02:30.000Then they then they watched the whole Joe Biden, you know, entire presidency was a lie.
01:02:35.000So, I mean, I guess that it makes perfect sense that they're cynical.
01:02:39.000But I don't know, I don't know why they still have so much, like, how much, they have so much, I don't know what the word for it is.
01:02:50.000So they feel like Epstein matters to them more than anyone else.
01:03:16.000That's why people like Epstein, there's no one's going to have a moderate take on Epstein.
01:03:20.000You're just describing the basic process by which we've got the Spanish Civil War or Russian Revolution.
01:03:26.000It is not, people assume it's like there's a group of people sitting in a room and they're all like, we're moderates.
01:03:31.000And then some catastrophe happens, some clickle thing happens, and they go, I've been awakened to communism.
01:03:35.000No, what happens is younger generations start to overwrite the older generations with more and more extremist ideology until they're fighting.
01:03:41.000When you see like a moderate, like a Zoomer moderate influencer on TikTok, you're just like, oh, here we go.
01:05:47.000How much of this causes people to just like when Phil asked me earlier, I was like, so what do you think about Barack Obama and Trump?
01:05:53.000Like I'm just, I'm so checked out of all of it.
01:05:55.000Like I just, I don't believe or trust that any accountability is going to happen.
01:05:59.000I don't have any faith that anything is actually ever going to change.
01:06:02.000So most of like for me, I've checked out and gone the other way, which is that it's like, I can't, the way that I can make the world a better place is like, I'm getting married is to be a good husband, hopefully have a family very soon and take care of the people in my life, in my corner of the world.
01:06:18.000And the rest of this stuff, as important as it is, like when we were talking about last week, about like if you delete X off your phone, does anything really change?
01:06:25.000A terrorist could be in your neighborhood and somebody could be posting there's a terrorist.
01:06:29.000But most for the most of the time, it's like you have to focus on what you can do in your corner of the world and the rest of it is just normal.
01:06:36.000You're getting like Faraday bags for your phones and burying computers and microwaves underground for the solar flare that's coming to wipe out all of humanity.
01:06:52.000This may be pessimistic, but right now, the most logical outcome of what we're in is the collapse of the political system in one form or another.
01:07:01.000It could mean that, you know, we've had this happen before in light ways and crazy ways.
01:07:18.000But again, to the point where the Obama administration, Democrats, the Obama cohorts, and the corporate press are calling Trump a pedo or insinuating it heavily.
01:07:28.000And then Trump is calling him a traitor.
01:08:32.000Trump was not the only president that was shot in Butler.
01:08:35.000If Abraham Lincoln lost the Civil War, he would go down in history as one of the worst presidents of all time, not for losing, but for violating the Constitution and arresting his political opponents.
01:08:44.000But he won, and Congress retroactively just agreed with him.
01:08:48.000All the illegal things that he did to preserve the Union, which is crazy.
01:08:52.000Yeah, I mean, we have gone through some crazy things.
01:08:55.000We didn't, you know, sometimes we get really frustrated and we don't think things are transparent.
01:08:59.000But honestly, the way we police ourselves on X and on social media, there's a lot of transparency out there.
01:09:06.000And we know more about what is happening as opposed to the people, you know, in Washington's time or Lincoln's time, right?
01:09:16.000Well, I think a lot of the kind of ambivalence that people feel, maybe this is just my own projection here, but a lot of the ambivalence that is felt just comes from the fact that there's so much information all the time.
01:09:27.000Like back in the day, you had your three, your four trusted news outlets that people foolishly agreed with and they got their information.
01:09:33.000If they said someone's a bad guy, they're like, oh, this is awful.
01:09:36.000Now you're just, you're bombarded with endless information about endless people being bad guys and you can't focus on all of it.
01:09:44.000Nobody has the time or the brainpower to do that.
01:09:47.000Back in the day, you literally offloaded your agency to this network to say, I trust them, therefore it must be true.
01:09:56.000You might have like a couple of influencers or I guess correspondents or people who work in this space that you, you know, you've followed them for a period of time.
01:10:05.000So you kind of, you're going to take them at their word because their track record has held up.
01:10:09.000But for the most part, people aren't willing to do that anymore.
01:10:13.000Again, this might be a projection on my own part.
01:10:15.000So the idea is like, I just can't care at all because nobody has the time to do the due diligence on literally everything that you're being told is awful now.
01:10:24.000Well, and just to prove how disruptive just the news or their cultural curators, right?
01:10:37.000I become, live in the middle of Pennsylvania, went to community college, and my book becomes the number one New York Times bestseller the same day that Colbert loses that, not just he loses his job, the whole entire tonight show is gone.
01:13:11.000And you would say it's bad for my reputation.
01:13:13.000But the argument for them is they're basically saying it is inherently damaging to your reputation and costs you money to be accused of being transgender.
01:14:21.000And it's, I, you know, for someone who had so much and still has so much, to have that much of a chip on your shoulder against everyone who was, who gave you grace, who gave you attention, who gave, who, who.
01:14:37.000Who's worse, Michelle Obama or Megan Markle?
01:15:25.000Sullivan, they have to prove that she actually knows, Candace actually knows Bridget is not a man, meaning there's some evidence given to Candace.
01:15:35.000Like, they would literally need chats from Candace being like, I know she's a woman, but this gets clicks.
01:15:40.000That would give it, you can't get that because you'll never get to discovery.
01:17:34.000It's like the Macron sat down and said, what can we do to make sure everyone in the world thinks that you're a man and give Candace Owens a million dollars?
01:18:20.000So, so, yeah, so back in the day, this still happens all the time.
01:18:24.000These woke leftists and gender activists find pictures of random women on the internet and then accuse them of being secretly men who transitioned.
01:18:49.000There's the inverse one now where like right-wingers will take like just like a 10 out of 10 woman and post it on like a trans subreddit and be like, oh, right, right.
01:20:36.000You know, but the conspiracy theory is that it was intentional that the globalists, they call, again, this is a conspiracy theory.
01:20:45.000The purpose of the COVID educational stunt was to force developed nations to, you can't force the bottom up, but you can cut off the tallgrass.
01:20:56.000So the idea is if you force a developed nation's children to be stunted by a decade, it will level them out with the rest of the nations and then force them to all start developing at the exact same time.
01:21:08.000So it was an attempt at normalization.
01:21:10.000So Gen Alpha are going to function like third worlders.
01:21:13.000I don't know, because like the third world countries had the toughest crackdowns.
01:21:43.000Like, I went to my college career coincided with COVID, like, almost to a T. And it's like, I see, like, I'm learning new social skills at like 24 that I should have learned when I was 18 or 19.
01:21:56.000But I just got like nuked right off the rip.
01:22:47.000Like a lot of the stuff that I see about that feels like, as true as it is, like you see these intellectual think pieces about why people were the way they were during the 2008 collapse.
01:22:57.000But it really was like you were told, you have time, just wait, you know, get your degree, do this, this, and that.
01:23:04.000And they kind of grew up in a world where there was so much media being thrown at them that they're like, they were numbed to the idea that the world isn't as easy as like what you see on TV, where like all the boring andan stuff that takes time, like making appointments and doing all these, like, you never see that in the movies and the TV shows.
01:23:20.000Now they get up, they're like, my mom doesn't make my appointments anymore and I'm dying.
01:23:24.000Can I just point out that Disney turned comments off on their psycho babble garbage?
01:23:29.000And I bet the thumbs down, there's 121 million views with only 316,000 thumbs up, implying the thumbs down it's going to be over a million.
01:23:38.000You know, and I was like, the little kids that watch it can't like.
01:23:59.000You got to get on YouTube and start making some fake accounts and thumbs up.
01:24:03.000Like to that point is like the one thing about the economy, because people always really attribute the birth rate crisis to the economy, but it's like the birth rate was going down by 1980.
01:24:12.000Like it's been descending at America's peak economy.
01:24:15.000And then now like a lot of these other theories are breaking down.
01:24:18.000Like Columbia's TFR is lower than ours.
01:24:20.000Colombia is not a developed country by any stretch of the imagination.
01:24:23.000So it's like every theory that we had about TFR relating to the economy or even like – That's the primary 100%.
01:24:34.000Yeah, because in the 1970s when i'm getting out of high school like half my class was married before they were 20 and had three kids by the time they were 25 and by the way the economy in 1977 sucked we used to have to wait in line to get gas and you and you pittsburgh like in what kind of building oh in my family home in oh in a house
01:25:43.000And your parents and your grandparents are like, you can own a house too, just don't drink Starbucks, and when you apply for a job, give a firm handshake.
01:25:56.000You just had them if you didn't have a good job.
01:25:59.000A 900 square foot house in Chicago where I grew up is $215,000.
01:26:06.000that's that's another boomerism that's this room and it's like where they're like if you need a job have you just walk in there with a resume and i'm like yeah they call security yeah if you did that now they like tell you to kill yourself we got the so this the us these two rooms uh should be i think about a thousand square feet yeah yeah the dollar that's the size the dollar it's it's it's uh no it's a little bit more than that actually i think it's 1500.
01:26:31.000Guys, the dollar has lost 99% of its value versus gold since 1971.
01:26:55.000The federal minimum wage in 1970 was $1.60 an hour.
01:26:59.000Gold was pegged at $35 an ounce and backed a dollar which meant one hour of work was valued at 0.046 ounces of gold in today's money that would be 150 dollars an hour versus the current federal minimum wage of 725.
01:27:14.000it's because the government has been irresponsible with the dollar and with the value of our currency and because and the the productivity that has come with modernization from the 70s has not transferred out to the average worker yeah yeah and the thing yeah well it doesn't even i i agree about the fed but it's not even it's not even just the fed because the fed started in 1913 and from 1913 until the 70s totally you know the
01:27:43.000responsibility and like printing that much like when i saw m1 in 2020 i said well we're gonna have a really terrible next decade you're an economist we are yeah i'm an economist and like dude we're having a really terrible decade so hopefully we can pull ourselves up by our bootstraps it was like we did the 70s i was looking at these documents i guess watching all of these documentaries about like ruby ridge or like domestic terrorists and they're all like it's all these guys who go and they have all these complaints and grievances with the government but they buy like a plot of land for like five
01:28:13.000dollars and a pack of bubble gum yeah and i'm like if that happened today if you could have all these grievances but then somebody's like i'll sell you this land for like a thousand dollars you're like maybe it's not that bad yeah like maybe i could just build a house even worse colts are operating in like studio apartments now don't come in here well you can't come it's get evicted it's over colt's over sorry guys we missed the missed the spaceship yeah what's the price of kool-aid today anyways i don't even know how you could uh make the kool-aid they
01:28:43.000could afford the nikes yeah yeah have you seen how expensive shoes are luke is throwing shade at you uh serge oh yeah i said you're an economist and luke goes if he's an economist i'm a gynecologist oh yikes everyone knows that luke has never seen a vagina yeah it's not clam luke i would uh old milk right now is at four bucks a gallon nationally it's kind of like think about that like um remember when eggs were just the defining factor about whether the economy was
01:29:13.000good here like two months ago now nobody's talking about it everybody just goes from trend to trend to trend and nothing's actually real right well that's why tomorrow we're going to open the show with a review of the fantastic four film see i'm as i was telling tim like i bought my tickets today and i literally audibly sighed as i bought them because i'm because pedro pascal is in it no i just i don't care about really yep 60s retro aesthetic just doesn't interest me sure sure i got all that but pedro pascal is it it's so
01:29:41.000he's an actor well he's just in every movie i know i get it man geez but everybody who talks about him you know he must work for cheap right no no no no he's um he comes at a high cost now i guarantee you he's an immigrant i mean he's cutting our actors remember when he played trump in wonder woman he's yeah well maxwell lord he said he just recently he's like i'll never shave my face again i look so awful in that in that movie but he's been acting since like 99 so he's actually he's one of those rare success stories where he found his fame like way later in in life
01:30:11.000but the better question is why he's always touching the women on the red carpets because he's got anxiety watching that it's like he never gets anxiety around men it's always around women that could have been the out like harvey winds he's like sorry i get nervous it's like these red carpet events and these award shows are very very difficult sorry i was a little anxious my bad i guess robert downey jr is going to be in the after credit scene oh i never stay for the post credit scenes anymore yeah because they're meaningless yeah i just go home and somebody's put it online i just go home
01:30:41.000and somebody's put it online yeah i just go home and somebody's put it online yeah i just go home and don't care about the celebrity gossip stuff whatever the point is our culture i think can track well alongside the mcu's unraveling into chaotic nonsense so as the marvel movies became increasingly incoherent that was tracking alongside society's increasing incoherence i mean it's because endgame was 2019 and then you know covet happened and it's that that it could be covet but I just mean like we used to follow the hero's journey,
01:31:12.000Well, they stopped doing that just when the Lucas Story film group also stopped.
01:31:16.000That's when every, like, I don't know if it's you call it like a woke institutional conspiracy or takeover or intentionally, but all of a sudden, movies started being about nothing, and it made no sense.
01:31:29.000It became subversive to start telling different stories because they feel that the hero's journey is a product of a different time when there was more patriarchal ideas in storytelling.
01:31:38.000And, you know, what they perceive as stories that these days here are white Western ideals, even though that's not necessarily true about the hero's journey at large.
01:31:48.000So they're making my book into a movie.
01:32:34.000The culture where I think is, it is so tremendous what we are seeing.
01:32:43.000I even had an interview with an Axios reporter about the split over Trump, MAGA, Epstein, what was currently going on.
01:32:49.000And it seemed like the first time the institutional press was going, we now recognize that the right is composed of multiple different political factions and that is not a single group.
01:33:01.000And then I guess as an aside, we're getting profiled by the Wall Street Journal for better or for worse.
01:33:05.000I don't know what that means, but they also, I believe they profiled Bannon.
01:33:08.000So the corporate press is basically waving the white flag and realizing that they've lost this one.
01:33:14.000And then you can take a look at just the general shift and how there's like how movies are starting to change.
01:33:20.000I think people realize the Bud Light effect was dangerous and you're going to lose money and everyone's backtracking now.
01:33:25.000Fantastic Four is getting good reviews from people that I do trust.
01:33:29.000So, you know, despite the fact that it doesn't really interest me, I enjoyed Superman a lot and the people that I talked to liked it more than they liked Superman and they did like Superman.
01:34:56.000Misa Mori says, couldn't they open an investigation into the Epstein files as a conspiracy in the IC and then just not release anything because it's an active investigation?
01:35:16.000And then everyone's accusing me of being a spy.
01:35:18.000I'm like, bro, if Bongino was trying to pull a fast one on you, he'd come out and be like, we're looking into it and we found some sick stuff.
01:35:24.000So we're going to get this investigation going.
01:36:08.000Rokana, I appreciate Rokana's efforts, but I just disagree with politically on everything.
01:36:12.000Massey disagrees sometimes on a lot of on certain things, and it is what it is.
01:36:16.000But it's just, it's so cringe how like Mike Johnson, what was he like, he went on Benny Johnson's show and he was like, we want transparency in these documents.
01:36:24.000And then he's like, I'm not going to let you vote on this.
01:38:02.000God's Omen says, keep up the good work, Tim.
01:38:04.000Been listening to you for many years while I'm building a house and appreciate that you have just been the same where all these Stephen Colberts change so quickly.
01:41:32.000I would imagine that Bill Clinton probably has charisma similar to Donald Trump because I think most presidents, to become the president, you have to have a lot of charisma.
01:41:44.000You're asking a lot of people to give you money.
01:42:32.000He says the Russia hoax was more than just Trump.
01:42:35.000It was the globalist destroyers of the West that wanted to stop the U.S. from having strong relations with a prominently white nation with traditional values.
01:42:48.000Wyatt Kaldenberg says, how much do you think anti-Zionism plays in making Epstein a never-ending crackpot theory?
01:42:54.000If there were a couple of Christian pedos that have two Jewish pedos with ties to Israel, would so many people care about it and make up crap?
01:43:01.000I think this is the funny thing about the Israel derangement syndrome, is that if you attach, it's like, if there was a bank and I was like, that's the target guy.
01:43:42.000The previous chatter literally was talking about exactly what I say.
01:43:48.000There's two groups of people that really care.
01:43:49.000There's the people that believe that Epstein was involved with Israel and with the Mossad and with CIA.
01:43:54.000And if Epstein is exposed and all of the information comes out, the American people will say, oh, We have to stop being allies with Israel because Israel's controlling our government.
01:44:03.000And then there are the people that think that Epstein had a slew of underage kids.
01:44:08.000And those are the two people that are really passionate about it.
01:45:14.000It's got enough energy to effectively.
01:45:17.000So with the solar panels, it will run indefinitely.
01:45:19.000So I could turn on, I could hook my computer up to it, plug it in, and it will never run out of power because it generates more from solar than it expends.
01:45:28.000However, I think you can only do like 10 hours of max AC.
01:48:02.000So when Trump says it's a Democrat hoax, it sounds like Trump's belief is that Democrats intentionally put in a poison pill into the files, making him look bad in some way.
01:50:07.000Only some early members, though, in the late 18th century, short after the nation's founding, wig wearing was it faded very quickly, however.
01:51:16.000I was actually surprised to read about this because there are a lot of medicines that are fundamental, like are rather rudimentary that, you know, there's like herbs and stuff and there's chemicals in them.
01:51:27.000And we're like, oh, actually, aspirin is tree bark and you can extract it.
01:51:30.000But modern antibiotics are extremely arduous and difficult to make.
01:51:38.000So I was looking up like, how many people do you need to make modern antibiotics, not penicillin?
01:51:45.000And it's like laboratory conditions that will not exist in the wild.
01:51:49.000Antibiotics are gone if civilization collapses.
01:53:20.000Are you just saying that because it sounds right?
01:53:21.000No, no, I think he was one of those guys that sold snake oil back in the day, and they would put their name on it as Lister Ean, like whatever.
01:55:24.000M. Effer looks like a French version of Caitlin Jenner, you know, somehow slightly more mannish looking, meanwhile, still expecting the world to go along because we are uncultured swine.
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01:56:10.000We still – it looks like we're going to have a – it – So it looks like we might have like 80 people on Saturday.
01:56:22.000With some walk-ins, it might go a little bit more than that.
01:56:25.000The only problem is we had already sold around the same amount.
01:56:27.000So I don't even know how many, like what's the Venn diagram of people with their tickets canceled and don't know versus people who bought and people who re-bought.
01:56:35.000So there's a possibility that we show up.
01:56:56.000If you're in the area, if you're in PA, if you're in North Carolina or wherever, New York, take the train down, come to the show, come hang out.
01:57:03.000Because the disruption is disconcerting.
01:57:06.000The show's going to happen, and it looks like we're going to have a decently packed house as it is.
01:57:11.000But my concern is that, you know, they screwed up to the point where people don't know if they're going to be coming or not or what's going on.
01:57:19.000So all I can really say is get your tickets, come down.
01:57:47.000We're going to have everyone put their names in a hat and we're going to draw names to invite people to come debate and have their positions heard.
01:58:13.000So what happened was they canceled the tickets and then immediately all the preferred seats sold out.
01:58:18.000And I'm like, okay, that's a problem because I think a lot of people had their tickets canceled and didn't know the demand was so high that as soon as they restarted the event, people rushed in and bought tickets again.
01:59:34.000This is not actually me saying for sure I know, but I think that part of the reason why she was doing it was because of the fact that she was working with Destiny and it was disingenuous.
02:00:57.000And what they do is they put the time stamp, on the thumbnail, it'll say one hour plus, like exclamation point, so that moms will turn the table on, put it in front of their baby, and then leave their baby to be mesmerized and emptyized by psychobabble garbage.
02:01:48.000So this is, I found this because I was trying to figure out why there are so many AI generated hot dog videos, like Spider-Man eating hot dogs and things like this.
02:02:07.000And so it gets so much play, and parents search hot dog song that people started making anything they could about hot dogs because what happened is after this ends, YouTube will auto-recommend to a baby Spider-Man, you know, having like a bunch of hot dogs jammed down his throat.
02:02:24.000Every time this song ends, the kids should be redirected to man versus food and like a hot dog eating challenge.
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02:05:27.000He's got this big, long thread that ultimately ended with Stripes saying that it's a, By way of a follow-up, we can confirm the restrictions placed on your account were not taken unilaterally by Stripe, but were the result of a legally binding order that was issued to us.
02:06:16.000I feel like, I mean, I know that maybe there's meaningful difference between X and TikTok because of the level of work that goes into video creation as opposed to just typing something on X. That does actually make sense.
02:06:28.000I feel like X would be likely to be your own.
02:06:31.000Though I'm sure there's a channel, like a Michael Knowles channel on X that's different from his personal account.
02:06:38.000I don't think that's the same thing as their TikTok account.
02:09:08.000That's what I'm talking about with Eddie.
02:09:09.000So does that, like, for the case, if there's like, if there's proof needed, does that mean that he slash she just has to send in like a wild pet?
02:10:36.000So this is back to the Michael Knowles stuff.
02:10:38.000My girlfriend is a very big fan of the Michael Knowles show, and she watches all the time.
02:10:41.000And apparently, it has something to do with hate speech and hating on groups of people, which likely means his religious criticism of gay people.
02:11:12.000And I think the CEO had even met with several high-profile conservative personalities to assure them, like, you will not get shut down for your speech.
02:12:05.000It means you knew what you were saying was not true.
02:12:09.000But either way, how does one prove that accusing someone of getting a high-quality secret sex chain surgery constituted a reckless disregard of the truth in a culture that insists that transgenderism is real simple, normal, and has been forever?
02:12:24.000Being accused of being a tranny can't be defamatory.