Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Obama Referred To DOJ For TREASON, Criminal Investigation, CIVIL WAR!! | Timcast IRL

00:03:00.000 Tulsi Gabbard has announced she has referred Obama to the DOJ for a criminal investigation pertaining to treason.

00:03:09.000 Now, they're not actually saying publicly that there are formal charges, but Tulsi Gabbard has said this was a treasonous conspiracy in a years-long coup, and that now she has referred this matter to the DOJ to investigate its criminal implications.

00:03:23.000 And you know what I'm going to say about it?

00:03:25.000 Get ready.

00:03:27.000 Civil war.

00:03:28.000 I mean, I'm half kidding, but the reality is right now there's two stories, and we were trying to figure out which one was the league because the other is.

00:03:34.000 Across all the corporate press, they're saying Donald Trump is named in the Epstein files.

00:03:39.000 And remember, Elon Musk said the same thing.

00:03:41.000 The question is, is his name passively in the files like it mentions that Epstein had been to his parties or that Trump had been around for certain instances?

00:03:49.000 We don't know.

00:03:50.000 But the corporate press is running that as their major headline.

00:03:52.000 So let me just stress right now, there are two stories.

00:03:56.000 The current presidential administration of the Republican Party is accusing a previous Democratic presidential administration of engaging in treason for which the penalty is death and a coup against the United States. 0.86

00:04:10.000 At the same time, Democrats and the corporate press are accusing Donald Trump of being a child sex trafficker.

00:04:16.000 So when you have two groups at the apex of these power structures basically accusing each other of high crimes, like serious high crimes, I don't know what you'd call it.

00:04:27.000 Eric Weinstein called it an administrative civil war.

00:04:29.000 Fine.

00:04:30.000 But does this end with just political fallout?

00:04:33.000 I honestly have no idea.

00:04:35.000 All I can say is that things are getting increasingly insane.

00:04:39.000 Now, we do have a bunch of other stories.

00:04:42.000 Trump's apparently rejecting a lot of this.

00:04:44.000 CNN is claiming that Donald Trump is there these photos of Epstein from 1993.

00:04:50.000 The media is going heavy against Trump on this issue.

00:04:53.000 We'll talk about that.

00:04:54.000 And then Candace Owens got sued because she called Bridget McCrone a man. 1.00

00:04:58.000 It's the stupidest thing I've ever heard. 0.99

00:05:00.000 Candace is allowed to call whoever she wants a man. 1.00

00:05:03.000 And the funny thing about this story, the McCrones are actually suing Candace. 0.56

00:05:06.000 Accusing her of defamation.

00:05:08.000 I have a question.

00:05:10.000 What is defamatory about calling someone transgender?

00:05:14.000 There's something wrong with that?

00:05:16.000 Is someone going to be damaged by being believed to be transgender? 0.97

00:05:21.000 That's a really interesting argument you're making there, Macrones, in these United States. 0.56

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00:07:51.000 Hey there.

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00:08:46.000 Brett's hanging out.

00:08:47.000 What's going on, guys?

00:08:48.000 Normally pop culture crisis Monday through Friday at 3 p.m., but let's get into it.

00:08:48.000 Brett.

00:08:53.000 Hello, everybody.

00:08:53.000 My name is Phil LeBonte.

00:08:54.000 I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band, All That Remains.

00:08:56.000 I'm an anti-communist and counter-revolutionary.

00:08:58.000 Let's get into it.

00:08:59.000 From the post-millennial DNI, Tulsi Gabbard refers Obama to DOJ to investigate criminal implications of revelations on the Russia collusion hoax.

00:09:10.000 Earlier today, Tulsi Gabbard released documents showing that an assessment had been made that Obama knowingly ordered Brennan to release information that they knew to be bogus in an effort to smear Donald Trump.

00:09:26.000 According to this report, actually, let me just pull this straight up so you can see it.

00:09:29.000 We've got this document here, September 18th, 2020, with a couple interesting pages.

00:09:35.000 Notably on page three, they make a few points.

00:09:37.000 Let's pull this one up.

00:09:39.000 They say, so let me just summarize instead of reading through everything.

00:09:43.000 The credibility of their underlying sources was called into question.

00:09:47.000 The accusation that Russia was trying to help Trump win was based off of a sentence fragment.

00:09:53.000 I kid you not.

00:09:54.000 It never explicitly stated that Putin wanted Trump to win.

00:09:58.000 It made references to Clinton's, Hillary Clinton's ill health.

00:10:02.000 And from that, they made assumptions.

00:10:05.000 Now, what ends up happening is they go through this.

00:10:07.000 Members of the intelligence community are all basically putting their hands up being like, this doesn't mean anything.

00:10:12.000 This is not remarkable.

00:10:13.000 This is highly dubious.

00:10:15.000 And we can't include this in any kind of real report.

00:10:17.000 Which brings us to the final page, which is where it gets interesting.

00:10:21.000 On the final page, it reads, acting on President Obama's orders, DCIA Brennan directed a full review and publication of raw human intelligence source information that had been collected before the election.

00:10:36.000 CIA officers said that some of this information had been held on the orders of DCIA, while other reporting had been judged by experienced CIA officers to have not met longstanding publication standards.

00:10:47.000 That is, they had this potential tidbit from a human source that was a sentence fragment and didn't prove anything and barely insinuated anything.

00:10:56.000 They passed it around.

00:10:58.000 Many of the individuals in the intelligence community said, this is nothing.

00:11:01.000 Why are you showing me this?

00:11:02.000 And then Obama said, publish it anyway.

00:11:06.000 So that's just a small tidbit.

00:11:08.000 Additionally, in these documents, there's evidence that Russia actually wanted Hillary to win.

00:11:15.000 They viewed her as sickly and thought that if she were to win, they could take advantage of that.

00:11:19.000 Now we have this story.

00:11:21.000 Now, let me just stress as we go through this, this is interesting.

00:11:23.000 Many have said this is a distraction because Tulsi didn't say we've sent Obama this information for a criminal referral.

00:11:33.000 She said to investigate criminal implications, which is like, why the weird word games?

00:11:38.000 I don't know for sure.

00:11:39.000 At the same time, the corporate press is running the story that Trump is named in the Epstein files.

00:11:45.000 And the House is blocking this.

00:11:47.000 I spoke with Thomas Massey, and he says that Speaker Johnson doesn't want this vote to come to the floor and that people were thanking him, somewhat facetiously said this, because they're basically getting an extra day off before they go on August recess.

00:12:00.000 Now, I don't know what's going on.

00:12:02.000 I can tell you this.

00:12:04.000 The center of power of the Democratic base, the establishment, the Uniparty, is accusing Donald Trump through the corporate press and Democratic politicians of being a child sex trafficker partying with Epstein.

00:12:15.000 The sitting president and his director of national intelligence, they are accusing the former president, a former president, of engaging in treason against the United States, for which the crime is punishable by death.

00:12:28.000 I don't know how much further this could possibly escalate in the political space.

00:12:33.000 What do you guys think?

00:12:35.000 It's not even like it feels like it's about escalating.

00:12:37.000 It's like the news is always so dire all the time that, you know, the joke is nothing ever happens, but it's actually nothing ever changes.

00:12:44.000 And it's that people are desensitized to these types of over-the-top and sensationalist headlines where even if all of this is true, people have just been bogged down by so much information that they don't know how to take it anymore.

00:12:56.000 The people who have made up their minds about these people made them up long ago.

00:13:00.000 I don't buy that anybody here that thinks that Trump is a pedophile didn't already believe that there was something unfixable about him beforehand.

00:13:09.000 They already believe that.

00:13:10.000 The people that are hearing that Obama is a treasonous person already believe that Barack Obama ruined this country years ago.

00:13:17.000 Whatever your opinion is, you're not swaying anybody to a different side on these issues.

00:13:21.000 It's just more bluster for various news outlets to make money.

00:13:26.000 Well, I mean, I don't think that the motivation is to make news outlets profit, do you?

00:13:31.000 I think I'm saying that like you're like none of the people that are looking at this now are going to make anything out of this that's new.

00:13:38.000 The only thing that's really going to be gained here is news outlets are going to make money by printing stuff about this.

00:13:43.000 Nothing's going to change.

00:13:44.000 Do you think that there's any substance to any of this?

00:13:46.000 I mean, to the Barack Obama one, I have no idea, obviously, if I haven't read through that document, but as for the Trump one, I don't know.

00:13:53.000 Like, again, I don't know for all of this stuff.

00:13:56.000 I just know that most of the people that are going to consume this media have already made up their mind about these things.

00:14:01.000 I saw people talking about it in the comments section.

00:14:03.000 They said, look, I'm sick of Trump in the news.

00:14:05.000 I'm sick of this, this, and that.

00:14:07.000 But it doesn't matter.

00:14:08.000 Like, if they have that opinion, they had that opinion before.

00:14:11.000 The crazy thing is, you know, on your point, we have been sitting here for years talking about one group of criminals or another.

00:14:20.000 And the only thing that actually happened is Trump got arrested on phony felony charges in New York.

00:14:27.000 And then nothing happens.

00:14:28.000 Nothing changed.

00:14:30.000 But then nothing changed because he became president.

00:14:30.000 He became president.

00:14:33.000 Like, if he didn't become president, they would likely have continued prosecuting.

00:14:37.000 Well, indeed, the sentence, the appellate court is holding their sentence right now.

00:14:44.000 So when he's off his office, he can be prosecuted further.

00:14:48.000 Not prosecuted.

00:14:49.000 Theoretically, when Trump is.

00:14:52.000 The appellate court can then take the gavel and go guilty.

00:14:55.000 And so they're just sitting on this.

00:14:56.000 And it's been since September.

00:15:00.000 It's been almost a year.

00:15:01.000 They've been sitting on this ruling.

00:15:02.000 They haven't issued it.

00:15:03.000 And people are like, what are you doing?

00:15:05.000 I'll say the court is in New York.

00:15:05.000 You know what it is?

00:15:08.000 These judges are probably saying, if we side with Trump, the state will destroy us.

00:15:14.000 If we side with the state, Trump will destroy us.

00:15:17.000 Let's do nothing.

00:15:18.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:15:19.000 They are going to sit on it.

00:15:21.000 And, you know, to your point, people are in their silos.

00:15:26.000 They're where they're not going to move.

00:15:30.000 And, you know, I don't, and they're also exhausted.

00:15:35.000 People are so exhausted about everything that's thrown at them every day.

00:15:40.000 And the level of trust in my profession could not get any lower.

00:15:46.000 I mean, I think it's minus zero.

00:15:48.000 And by the way, that's on all sides of the aisle.

00:15:51.000 That's not just Republicans.

00:15:53.000 I think Republicans, conservatives, libertarians tend to trust the press less than Democrats.

00:15:59.000 But even Democrats have felt the implication of the press not being honest with them about Biden, right?

00:16:09.000 And about his health and about his capabilities.

00:16:14.000 So I think that to your point, your point, a lot of people are looking at these stories and saying, well, the press is going to get a lot of clicks.

00:16:24.000 They're going to get a lot of money from this.

00:16:26.000 And it's not going to move the needle.

00:16:28.000 Phil, what do you think about this?

00:16:30.000 What is your opinion between the Obama story and the Trump story?

00:16:34.000 Do you think there's substance to them?

00:16:36.000 So the Trump story, when it comes to Epstein stuff, it's all stuff that's actually out there already.

00:16:44.000 So the media is trying to put stuff out, I think, because they're trying to associate Trump with Epstein as much as possible.

00:16:54.000 Being in the files, not being on the client list, being as different things.

00:16:58.000 Well, no, I mean, just the pictures, the new pictures.

00:17:00.000 The 93 wedding photo.

00:17:01.000 Yeah, so like it's like, yes, everyone kind of already knows that Trump and Epstein were friends throughout the 90s and into the office.

00:17:08.000 Yeah.

00:17:08.000 2003.

00:17:09.000 And Trump said this guy's.

00:17:12.000 But were they friends, or was it that Epstein was in the social circles of New York and bounced around?

00:17:17.000 That's it.

00:17:17.000 That's a very New York thing.

00:17:19.000 Yeah.

00:17:20.000 That you are, it's sort of an association.

00:17:24.000 You show up in events and no one's going to turn you down because they know they've seen you somewhere and you've been to something.

00:17:30.000 I mean, you know, he could have been a wedding crasher for all we know, right?

00:17:33.000 I mean, but the point, but the point is.

00:17:35.000 Did you guys see the, I'm sorry, did you see the photos of Howard Stern with Epstein?

00:17:38.000 No.

00:17:39.000 Yeah, they have pictures of Howard Stern hanging out together with Epstein.

00:17:42.000 It is.

00:17:43.000 And I want to clarify that they're in the same room at Trump's wedding.

00:17:46.000 But you see how phrasing can manipulate people's expectations.

00:17:49.000 And it is media framing because when the first documentaries came out about Epstein after all this stuff, Break After Suicide, there was a Hulu documentary and then there was like an Amazon Prime documentary.

00:17:58.000 Don't quote me on the second one.

00:17:59.000 And both of them used the pictures of Epstein and Trump as the cover of the documentary because that's a way to frame the story a certain way that's beneficial to a particular political affiliation, right?

00:18:10.000 Right.

00:18:11.000 Absolutely.

00:18:12.000 But again, like these days, I think just the amount of evidence people would need, there would have to be video.

00:18:18.000 Okay, this actually won't exist in five years, but there'd have to be video evidence of the crime.

00:18:22.000 And even then, somebody's going to be like, it's fake.

00:18:25.000 At this point, it's all AI.

00:18:26.000 Nothing like that.

00:18:28.000 Like you said, the people that have already made up their minds have made up their minds.

00:18:31.000 And I don't think that whether it be video evidence, new pictures, testimony, someone swears they were there, people coming out saying that they were raped by Donald Trump, none of this actually matters when it comes to the people that have already made up their minds.

00:18:44.000 Right.

00:18:44.000 They've definitely made up their minds.

00:18:46.000 You know, my book, Butler, right?

00:18:49.000 I was there when the president got shot.

00:18:51.000 I'm on TV yesterday, and the interviewer says, was he really shot?

00:18:58.000 Yeah, insane.

00:18:59.000 And I'm like, a man died.

00:19:02.000 The bullets went over my head.

00:19:04.000 I was four feet away from him.

00:19:07.000 I saw the blood streak across his face. 1.00

00:19:10.000 I will not entertain a stupid question. 1.00

00:19:12.000 Also, I know more about the astronomer CEO than I know about Thomas Crooks. 1.00

00:19:19.000 That's concerning.

00:19:21.000 That's kind of the thing.

00:19:21.000 It's like everyone's waiting for like a smoking gun to be released.

00:19:24.000 But the way social media works is any damning video or photo is on social media the next 24 hours after this.

00:19:30.000 The police themselves.

00:19:31.000 So it's like, it's not like there's really much out there that could be released.

00:19:34.000 Everyone already kind of knows what's out there.

00:19:36.000 It's just the way Twitter works.

00:19:37.000 Yeah, I mean, like, well, yeah, but as it pertains to Tulsi Gabbard, she's declassifying documents that show. 0.57

00:19:42.000 So on the Trump stuff, I get it.

00:19:45.000 They could have released anything on Trump and Epstein at any point.

00:19:48.000 Instead, they falsely accused him of rape.

00:19:50.000 So I'm like, if they have to make up a rape story, I don't think they got anything on Trump and the Epstein files.

00:19:55.000 Look, they had power for four years.

00:19:57.000 If there was something in the Epstein files, it would have been out there.

00:20:02.000 They knew for a very long time there was a problem with Biden.

00:20:06.000 They knew for a very long time there was a problem with Harris.

00:20:10.000 They also understood that Biden was always a fluke and he was likely not going to win.

00:20:17.000 So if there was truly something in there, they would have released it just to do anything to put the hammer on Trump.

00:20:26.000 Look at all the lawfare that they used against him.

00:20:28.000 Well, I think the Biden admin didn't want to open the can of worms that was the Epstein files because they were confident that Letitia James was going to mop up the entire situation. 0.83

00:20:38.000 I think that was their game plan.

00:20:40.000 Why?

00:20:42.000 What would be the justification if what would be the justification to not if they had the info?

00:20:47.000 If they had the info, were aware that they had the info.

00:20:50.000 Why wouldn't they?

00:20:51.000 Look what's happening now is as soon as it gets brought up, it opens a huge can of worms.

00:20:54.000 You have your buddies on there.

00:20:55.000 You have your enemies on there.

00:20:56.000 That turns into a huge, huge situation where they were just confident they could just brush it under, have Letitia James mop it up, whoever the DA in Atlanta was.

00:21:04.000 But save for Hillary Clinton, save for the Clintons, not particularly Hillary, but save for the name Clinton.

00:21:10.000 There wasn't really a lot of people that were associated with Barack Obama or the Biden administration that have been implicated, correct?

00:21:18.000 Not that I'm aware of, at least.

00:21:19.000 But I mean, there's going to be a lot of donors on there, a lot of clandestine Hollywood buddies.

00:21:27.000 So you're assuming, right?

00:21:28.000 But the point that I'm making is you're assuming that those people would be on there, but we don't have any kind of evidence of that.

00:21:35.000 I know.

00:21:37.000 That's at least the perspective I see of why if there truly was something damning and they were insistent on getting Trump in jail, they probably, there is some names on there that would have created a huge mess for the Biden Edmund.

00:21:48.000 Let's jump to this story from CNN.

00:21:49.000 Actually, this story is across the corporate press far and wide.

00:21:52.000 Bondi briefed Trump that his name was in the Epstein files.

00:21:57.000 We have this from the New York Times.

00:21:59.000 Trump administration live updates.

00:22:01.000 Attorney General alerted Trump his name appeared in the Epstein files.

00:22:04.000 And then from Newsweek, White House reacts to report that Bondi told Trump he was in the Epstein files.

00:22:10.000 This is the corporate press headline, I'm sure on CNN's television cable channel with all 17 people watching.

00:22:17.000 This is the only thing they're talking about.

00:22:19.000 Newsweek loves to bury the story.

00:22:21.000 You had to scroll way down.

00:22:22.000 On Wednesday, the journal reported that Bondi and another top DOJ official informed the president in May that his name appeared in the Epstein files along with the names of other high-profile figures as part of what sources characterize as unverified hearsay.

00:22:35.000 Senior DOJ officials also reportedly told Trump they did not plan to release more information about the investigation to the public in order to protect victims' identities and because the documents contained child sex abuse materials.

00:22:45.000 Trump responded by saying he would defer to the DOJ's judgment on the matter.

00:22:49.000 Notice how Donald Trump said, release all credible information.

00:22:54.000 The hearsay may have been that Democrats and even Trump's own intelligence, heads of intelligence, included unsourced and unverified information.

00:23:06.000 That's going to make him look bad and he doesn't want it released.

00:23:08.000 That's why he's calling it a Democrat hoax.

00:23:10.000 It's not that Epstein isn't real.

00:23:13.000 And again, I don't want to defend Trump on this one.

00:23:14.000 I'm maybe Zen is in it.

00:23:15.000 I want to know what it says.

00:23:17.000 I think Trump is probably, the point he's making is they put unverified, unsourced BS, just like Russia Gate in the Epstein files, implicating me.

00:23:25.000 Yes.

00:23:26.000 So you notice he uses words like hoax and rigged.

00:23:30.000 And people get, you know, sometimes people get tired of it.

00:23:34.000 However, he's got his finger.

00:23:37.000 It's right on target because a lot of these things are hoaxes and a lot of events are rigged.

00:23:45.000 And we don't really see it.

00:23:47.000 We don't see what he sees.

00:23:49.000 But, you know, there are clues in the words that he uses and he gives them to us.

00:23:58.000 They should release as much information as they can.

00:24:00.000 I don't care if it incriminates Trump or if it makes Trump look bad.

00:24:04.000 I don't think there's anything actually incriminating when it comes to Trump.

00:24:08.000 I don't think there's anything illegal that he's done, but he's probably worried about looking bad or being associated.

00:24:13.000 Just put it all out there because this is only making everything worse.

00:24:16.000 I don't see, unless he's actually broken the law, which in that case, you know, then there should be criminal prosecution.

00:24:26.000 But if he hasn't, put everything out there because this is just making everything worse.

00:24:29.000 If you want to play a game of power, okay, you want to get involved in spy craft and all that stuff, Donald Trump's handling of this matter is one of the worst I have ever seen.

00:24:38.000 Literally just put out fake information.

00:24:40.000 Like, I'm not actually suggesting Trump should do this.

00:24:43.000 I'm saying if the Trump administration was competent on the matter, based on what we know about the story, if we assume it to be true, like let's just entertain a hypothetical, that hypothetical, Trump is doing this all on purpose.

00:24:56.000 It's 5D chess.

00:24:57.000 Fine, whatever.

00:24:58.000 I doubt it.

00:24:59.000 This is not how you handle if there's incriminating evidence or embarrassing information in the files.

00:25:05.000 He's drawing more attention to it, making the whole thing worse.

00:25:08.000 He could literally instruct everybody just to never talk about it again, and it would go away.

00:25:12.000 People are already bored of it.

00:25:14.000 And it's a massive story that needs to be exposed.

00:25:17.000 I'm with Massey and Rokana.

00:25:19.000 We should have these documents published.

00:25:21.000 But Trump is just fanning the flames to keep it going.

00:25:25.000 Why do you think that is?

00:25:27.000 Incompetence.

00:25:28.000 I mean, like, is the idea here that this is the most incompetent thing he's ever done?

00:25:33.000 That's fascinating because it appears that this is one of the only times he's on the backside of an 80-20 issue.

00:25:38.000 I don't think that it's incompetence because he's not a stranger to messaging.

00:25:44.000 Like, he's really good at messaging.

00:25:45.000 He's really good at marketing himself.

00:25:47.000 I don't know what the deal is.

00:25:49.000 I think the most likely scenario is that he doesn't want to be associated with it.

00:25:54.000 And so he doesn't want the information to come out because it associates him with it.

00:25:59.000 But I don't think that It's an incompetence thing because he's so good with messaging everywhere else.

00:26:05.000 I mean, he's a guy that stood up and said fight, fight, fight after he got shot.

00:26:09.000 This is a guy that understands image.

00:26:12.000 And to your point, but a little more nuance, I think, look, he is the president.

00:26:18.000 He's been the president before.

00:26:21.000 Even he has seen the damage and the consequences of a fragment of a sentence used in a CIA or in a President Obama's thing.

00:26:33.000 A fragment of a sentence, a fragment of him being associated with Epstein can turn into being blown up for months or days, whatever.

00:26:44.000 And so I suspect that that might be part of it.

00:26:48.000 I don't suspect that he's in there in a damaging way, but he is all about image.

00:26:54.000 And he's all about, I mean, remember during COVID, he never wore a mask.

00:27:00.000 He absolutely never wore a mask.

00:27:02.000 And when, and when, you know, the day after he was shot, he called me the next morning and asked if I was okay.

00:27:11.000 But I also, I talked to him seven times that day.

00:27:15.000 But he also, at the end of the day, I said, why did you say fight, fight, fight?

00:27:21.000 And he said, well, I wasn't Donald Trump in that moment.

00:27:25.000 It was, I was representing the United States of America.

00:27:30.000 I had to project strength.

00:27:32.000 I had an obligation in that role to project strength, all the grit and the exceptionalism and the never back down that we were supposed to stand for.

00:27:42.000 And so when you think that way, when you want to project a certain image, not just of yourself, but you take it to the next level and you want to project it about the country, I think that gives a little more insight as to maybe why he doesn't want this out, even if the likelihood that it's not something in there that would be damaging to him.

00:28:06.000 It would just be annoying.

00:28:08.000 Unverified hearsay could be some serious stuff.

00:28:11.000 It could be.

00:28:12.000 And they'll make the argument that you can't prosecute someone on unverified hearsay, but the hearsay could be like Trump was with underage girls in Epstein doing who knows what.

00:28:21.000 And so Trump is going to be like, you can't release that.

00:28:24.000 Even though it's not going to be strong enough evidence for any kind of prosecution, court of public opinion doesn't work that way. 0.98

00:28:29.000 But again, that being said, it doesn't explain how Trump is handling it the way he is, which is the stupidest mishandling of any kind of story I've ever seen. 0.97

00:28:36.000 Because this has been going on for how long now? 0.98

00:28:38.000 Like this is dragged out over the, like, our news cycle is so lightning fast now.

00:28:43.000 The fact that this has dominated the news cycle for as long as it has is the proof that it's being handled poorly.

00:28:49.000 Well, can I just tell you guys one thing?

00:28:51.000 And this might shock you, but this is the way I do reporting.

00:28:55.000 I don't, I go out and I talk to people.

00:28:59.000 And when this first broke, the first place I was at was a rodeo.

00:29:04.000 You can't get more centrally located with people that are Trump supporters or more patriotic.

00:29:12.000 Have y'all ever been to a big rodeo?

00:29:14.000 It's literally the best time ever.

00:29:17.000 Anyways, I asked 72 people.

00:29:20.000 Not one person cared about this to the level that you see on social media.

00:29:31.000 And I often feel as a reporter that I straddle two different worlds, right?

00:29:38.000 I straddle a world where the people that, you know, just regular people live, exist, play, and think about what's important.

00:29:48.000 And then I straddle the other world, which is very online.

00:29:52.000 And it's really a challenge to figure out, well, what is the most meaningful?

00:30:00.000 What's having the most impact?

00:30:03.000 I've been saying this a lot, and I catch a lot of hell from a lot of people that are extremely online.

00:30:07.000 To normal people, this does not register.

00:30:10.000 They do not care.

00:30:12.000 Hold on, hold on.

00:30:13.000 The things that are important are kitchen table issues.

00:30:16.000 The things that are going to matter come the midterms are kitchen table issues.

00:30:20.000 And the things that are going to matter come the next presidential election are kitchen table issues.

00:30:24.000 The economy is the most important thing to everybody all the time, whether they want to admit it or not.

00:30:31.000 The people that are online, that are seeing this stuff, that are watching podcasts, they'll make a lot of noise and they're very passionate about it, but it is a small segment.

00:30:38.000 To be fair, I pulled up the look.

00:30:46.000 I pulled up Google Trends.

00:30:48.000 And the Epstein files is trending.

00:30:48.000 Okay.

00:30:52.000 Rivaling Candace Owens. 1.00

00:30:55.000 That's another thing I bet you.

00:30:56.000 I'm the other person nobody is talking about on a rodeo.

00:31:00.000 So the top trends on Google as of right now for the United States, Brian Koberger with 500,000 searches.

00:31:07.000 Arsenal versus Milan with 100,000.

00:31:10.000 Candace Owens with 50,000.

00:31:13.000 And then the Epstein Files at 50,000, which the Epstein Files is the fourth biggest trend in the country.

00:31:18.000 So people are searching for it, but let's be honest, at 10% the rate of Brian Koberger.

00:31:25.000 That was pretty riveting too.

00:31:26.000 He's that murderer. 0.59

00:31:27.000 Oh, okay, yes, yes, yes.

00:31:29.000 That was a pretty riveting test.

00:31:31.000 Moscow item.

00:31:31.000 To be fair, so this is actually not correct.

00:31:35.000 Actually, it's number five.

00:31:37.000 Tesla Earnings Report has got 100,000 searches.

00:31:41.000 So if we go by pure search volume, Epstein files, actually it's number six.

00:31:45.000 Heat Advisory has 100,000 searches.

00:31:47.000 That's what people think about.

00:31:48.000 Well, I mean, that's why I say, like, for me, the priority is kitchen table issues, Obama conspiracy stuff, then Epstein stuff.

00:31:56.000 And it's literal political scandal triage.

00:31:59.000 If Trump doesn't get his agenda through, then people don't vote in the midterms.

00:32:03.000 Democrats gain power and Epstein gets away with it.

00:32:06.000 If Obama and his cohort aren't held accountable for crossfire hurricane Russia gate stuff, Democrats will fight and regain power and then Epstein gets away with it.

00:32:17.000 Then after those things are locked and secured, we can talk about releasing the Epstein files.

00:32:21.000 Because I will tell you this, with Trump's resistance and everything that the Trump campaign, or I'm sorry, the campaign, the administration is saying about it and Trump himself, you will get nowhere Near a single word with Democrats in power.

00:32:34.000 They were in power under Obama when this was going on.

00:32:36.000 They said nothing.

00:32:37.000 It never came up.

00:32:38.000 No activists cried about it.

00:32:39.000 You were called a conspiracy theorist if you even mentioned it.

00:32:39.000 No one brought it up.

00:32:43.000 Then Trump gets in and the story breaks.

00:32:46.000 Epstein dies.

00:32:48.000 Get a little air quote there.

00:32:50.000 Biden gets in.

00:32:51.000 Democrats don't care anymore. 0.99

00:32:52.000 Trump is back in.

00:32:54.000 He's begrudging.

00:32:55.000 He doesn't want the info released, but we are closer now than we've been before.

00:32:58.000 So choose your battles.

00:33:00.000 I want to see the Epstein list stuff come out just so that way we can put it to bed.

00:33:04.000 I would love to, you know, if there are prosecutions that are necessary, make the arrests necessary.

00:33:10.000 The people that have broken the law, put them in jail, and then the people that are completely obsessed with it can stop worrying about it.

00:33:19.000 Let them have their heads.

00:33:20.000 Put the people that have broken the law in jail.

00:33:23.000 I want to get to the bottom of this, and I don't care who's the top.

00:33:26.000 I don't care either.

00:33:27.000 We got a story from the New York Post.

00:33:30.000 House panel votes to subpoena Bill and Hillary Clinton over possible links to Gheelane Maxwell.

00:33:36.000 Oh my God.

00:33:38.000 It's all unraveling, isn't it?

00:33:40.000 And so, as I only half-jokingly say, Civil War.

00:33:43.000 Honest question, you guys.

00:33:45.000 If the power structures of the political system in this country are accusing each other of high crimes, where do we go politically?

00:33:54.000 I mean, if we as a country exist where the Democrats say Trump is a PETA who worked with Epstein and then do nothing about it, nothing happens, it's like, do you really believe that to be true?

00:34:04.000 And if Trump accuses Obama of treason and then Obama never gets arrested and then the Democrats go to jail, we're just basically all supposed to sit here and pretend that this country is in this disheveled state and just keep operating?

00:34:17.000 Are we supposed to keep living normal lives under the belief that they have told us that these crimes are ongoing?

00:34:26.000 The thing about Obama that I find most interesting, and I remember I covered him, interviewed him, and when Trump got into office, I remember how robustly my profession questioned him, pushed him.

00:34:43.000 Every day was a new scandal.

00:34:45.000 And I always thought, I don't mind, you know, he should face robust questions, right?

00:34:52.000 But that never happened with Obama.

00:34:55.000 Nope.

00:34:55.000 Never, ever happened.

00:34:57.000 You never, ever got to the bottom of anything.

00:35:00.000 He was treated very, very differently than Trump was.

00:35:05.000 And so was Biden to that matter.

00:35:08.000 And so as things are, you know, when it comes to Obama and the idea that there was some sort of conspiracy, people are more willing to believe that because they don't believe he was ever properly vetted ever.

00:35:26.000 And what do I mean by that?

00:35:28.000 Like anything that he ever did was, it's great.

00:35:30.000 It's sunshine and flowers.

00:35:32.000 We're going to, you know, everything's going to be awesome.

00:35:35.000 And so I think that there is a real curiosity out there to find out what the heck really was going on.

00:35:46.000 And what was going on with Brennan and Comey, right?

00:35:50.000 And these intricate sort of storylines that are so intertwined.

00:35:58.000 We need more intellectual curiosity in my profession to push this.

00:36:02.000 Well, but they're lying intentionally.

00:36:05.000 It's not an issue of intellectual curiosity.

00:36:06.000 It's that they're intentionally misleading on these stories.

00:36:10.000 Right.

00:36:11.000 Right, right.

00:36:13.000 So the story never happens because nobody asks the question.

00:36:18.000 The way the media works is like you'll see a headline that says Donald Trump throws dog out window.

00:36:23.000 And then you're like, oh my God.

00:36:24.000 And then your liberal aunt is going like, I can't believe he would do that.

00:36:28.000 And then when you actually read the story, it's like the building was on fire and Trump ran in, risking his life to save the dog.

00:36:33.000 But as the fire destroyed the stairs, his only option was to gently toss the dog onto a firefighter net to save it.

00:36:41.000 What happened at the last year at the assassination?

00:36:44.000 They said he fell down on stage.

00:36:46.000 After loud noises.

00:36:47.000 That was loud noises.

00:36:48.000 That was the last bit for me.

00:36:50.000 I've been so disconnected.

00:36:51.000 Outside of doing this show, I feel very disconnected a lot of the time from politics, far more than I was five years ago.

00:37:00.000 And that was just one of those things, like just threw me right back into everything that I hate about the media.

00:37:04.000 No, no, no, no.

00:37:05.000 They've never taken this down.

00:37:06.000 Here's YouTube, ABC7 Chicago.

00:37:08.000 Donald Trump whisked offstage at rally after loud noises ring through crowds.

00:37:12.000 He got tonight.

00:37:13.000 I was laying on the crowd.

00:37:15.000 He's got blood on his face in the picture in the video.

00:37:18.000 Yes.

00:37:19.000 Yeah, there's a loud noise, Tim.

00:37:21.000 I was laying on the ground.

00:37:22.000 I had only been four feet away from him when he got shot.

00:37:25.000 Really?

00:37:25.000 You were that close?

00:37:26.000 Four feet away from him when he got shot.

00:37:30.000 The firepower went right over my head.

00:37:33.000 And I'm laying on the ground and this alert comes up with the story that he's whisked away.

00:37:40.000 And I'm like, are you kidding me?

00:37:43.000 I just had two rounds gunfire go over me.

00:37:47.000 A man is dead 20 feet away from me.

00:37:50.000 And that's the story.

00:37:52.000 That is the moment.

00:37:54.000 Nopes.

00:37:55.000 Fact checked.

00:37:56.000 CNN initially published headline, Secret Service rushes Trump off stage after he falls at rally.

00:38:02.000 True.

00:38:03.000 CNN actually ran that headline.

00:38:06.000 You know what?

00:38:07.000 We were in Wisconsin getting ready for the RNC event.

00:38:11.000 The first thing is my phone's blowing up.

00:38:13.000 It's ringing off the hook and I open it.

00:38:14.000 And it was before we knew if Trump was alive.

00:38:16.000 Literally the moment the shots went out, people were texting me like, shots fired, shots fired.

00:38:20.000 And I'm getting like DMs and I pull it up and I'm watching the videos and waiting for someone to post the aftermath.

00:38:27.000 And then we start seeing these come out minutes later.

00:38:30.000 Anybody watching knew exactly what happened.

00:38:33.000 So that day I was supposed to interview him and he wanted to see me.

00:38:33.000 Yeah.

00:38:41.000 I was supposed to interview him before then.

00:38:43.000 And then it became that I was going to fly to Bedminster and do the interview on the plane.

00:38:49.000 Before he went out of the rally, five minutes before he's shot, he wants to say hi to me.

00:38:55.000 So I see, I'm like one of the last people we talked to before he went out.

00:38:59.000 And The next morning, he calls me at 0 dark 30 and asks, Selena, are you okay?

00:39:07.000 Is your daughter okay?

00:39:08.000 And gee, I'm really, really sorry that we didn't get to do that interview.

00:39:13.000 I think I know what damning information may be in those Epstein files about Trump.

00:39:19.000 It may be that Trump was actually, take a look at this, friends with Bill Clinton.

00:39:23.000 No.

00:39:24.000 Could you imagine if people found out?

00:39:27.000 I think they were friends, right?

00:39:29.000 The Trumps and the Clintons.

00:39:30.000 Wouldn't it be like the ultimate letdown if after it all ends, he gets like locked up for real estate fraud because of the Epstein files?

00:39:38.000 Like he did some shady, he wanted to buy little St. James, and that's what he goes to jail for.

00:39:44.000 Real estate is not a problem.

00:39:44.000 It's like in it, it's a quote from him saying, I knew that my private penthouse at Trump Tower was not 30,000 square feet.

00:39:52.000 That's the only quote that's in there.

00:39:54.000 It's like, oh, we got him.

00:39:55.000 Everybody knows.

00:39:57.000 It was like 04, he did have a bidding, like after the split between him and Epstein, they did have a bidding war over a property in Palm Beach 04.

00:40:05.000 So they were rivals at that point.

00:40:07.000 So it's like they went and then all of a sudden now there's these fierce rivals.

00:40:10.000 I like the idea that Trump wants to take him down just because he's mad about the bidding war.

00:40:14.000 I hate that guy.

00:40:15.000 And look, this was all coming up again because there was a clip going around of, you know, because Stephen Colbert is throwing his hissy fit about being, you know, losing $40 million a year.

00:40:25.000 And they were posting this clip from several years ago of Claire Daines on the show where she accidentally admits that like the Intel agencies are in contact with the media.

00:40:35.000 And then Stephen Colbert is trying to shut her up. 0.99

00:40:36.000 Like, let's move on.

00:40:38.000 Yeah, he changed the conversation.

00:40:40.000 Yeah.

00:40:41.000 Absolutely a media.

00:40:42.000 And that's the stuff.

00:40:43.000 It's like, I can't anymore.

00:40:45.000 I can't with this stuff.

00:40:46.000 The thing about my profession, largely in network news, is that they all live in the same super zip codes in either New York or around Washington, D.C. And they all, you know, sort of hang out.

00:41:01.000 They go to the same bars.

00:41:02.000 Their kids are on the same soccer field.

00:41:05.000 And they all intertwine and use each other as sources.

00:41:09.000 And so it is difficult to separate them from each other and not understand that they're often working together to get stories out.

00:41:25.000 I mean, that's the fact that all of them live in the same, like you said, the same zip codes, that used to be kind of the excuse for the left-leaning bias, right?

00:41:36.000 It used to be where the people that were in urban areas, they were like, well, you know, of course the media has a bit of a liberal bias.

00:41:43.000 They all live in cities, but they try to be fair.

00:41:48.000 Even though they called middle America flyover country, they're still trying to be fair.

00:41:53.000 And I think that with the election of Barack Obama and then the election of Donald Trump really is what made it clear that it's not actually about just that they have a left-wing bias.

00:42:03.000 It's that they wanted that access to the Democratic Party and to the establishment.

00:42:08.000 And they wanted to feel like they were actually part of the policymaking apparatus of the United States, unelected, but they were the mouthpiece of the Democrat Party and unofficially the mouthpiece of the administration.

00:42:22.000 Yeah, and that's the challenge being a reporter that lives out in the middle of western Pennsylvania because, you know, I have very little access to traditional power when you think of presidents and lawmakers.

00:42:38.000 But to me, the real power is the people I cover.

00:42:42.000 And it's people in Erie, Pennsylvania that decided this election.

00:42:46.000 It's not anybody that's having drinks at a bar in D.C. that decided anything.

00:42:52.000 And I think that detachment and inability to control the people in Erie, Pennsylvania is what has led to some of the things that we have seen happen to Trump because he is such a disruptor, right?

00:43:10.000 And I've never understood why we didn't think that disruption would eventually come to American politics.

00:43:18.000 Everything that we do is disruption, right?

00:43:21.000 Think about AI.

00:43:22.000 That disrupts everything, but it also pulls us together.

00:43:26.000 In Western Pennsylvania, you know, that silver you were talking about and where AI is going to be made?

00:43:33.000 Well, it's going to be made in Western Pennsylvania because we have the natural gas to fuel it, and they need so much gas, right?

00:43:43.000 So everything, that power base is actually being taken away from them.

00:43:47.000 And it's going to be the people in the middle of the country that make the AI, the data power centers.

00:43:53.000 Let's jump to this next story from the Daily Mail.

00:43:57.000 It's true.

00:43:58.000 The White House is making phone calls.

00:44:01.000 Now, at least there's a couple people who have claimed they've had private meetings with people in the administration on the issue of Epstein.

00:44:08.000 Of course, the mail buries the story, which is pertinent to the public.

00:44:12.000 But they go on to mention way down below, Tim Dylan.

00:44:16.000 Now, this story most people know, met with J.D. Vance.

00:44:19.000 And Vance said they do not have videos of any powerful person in a compromising position.

00:44:23.000 That's the party line before Market with Skepticism.

00:44:26.000 That's the party line they're going with.

00:44:27.000 What I told Vance is that if you don't disclose everything, you're done.

00:44:30.000 Nobody will support you guys.

00:44:32.000 You are fully and completely part of this cover-up if everything doesn't come out.

00:44:35.000 I think it paralyzes their presidency.

00:44:36.000 He said, Dylan, Alex Jones appeared in his podcast on Monday to say that he too has been contacted by the White House.

00:44:43.000 I've had the White House call up and be like in the last week.

00:44:46.000 What do you want?

00:44:47.000 Jones said, I want you to do what you were elected to do.

00:44:50.000 Dylan replied, they want this to go away, but it's not going to go away until they disclose the information they have.

00:44:56.000 The Daily Mail can also report that White House reached out to Charlie Kirk, the highly influential leader of the youth movement organized under TPUSA.

00:45:04.000 I am not minimizing this, Kirk said in his podcast.

00:45:06.000 I am just the messenger here.

00:45:07.000 I am simply the interlocutor.

00:45:09.000 The young men and the Gen Z audience that I represent, they are flaming mad about this stuff.

00:45:14.000 Kirk explained the conservative, the conservative people he speaks to refuse to drop the issue because they want to go after the deep state of the government.

00:45:23.000 Trump, increasingly irritated at the fixation of erstwhile allies, picked up the phone to Kirk.

00:45:28.000 A day later, Kirk appeared to backpedal.

00:45:30.000 Honestly, I'm done talking about Epstein for the time being.

00:45:32.000 I'm going to trust my friends in the administration.

00:45:34.000 I'm going to trust my friends in the government to do what needs to be done, solve it, balls in their hands.

00:45:37.000 Now, I want to clarify this.

00:45:39.000 He was referring to on the show at that one moment.

00:45:42.000 Basically, like when we talk about stories and say, okay, we're going to wrap that story up for now and move on.

00:45:47.000 They're making it seem like he was saying, I'm done with the issue.

00:45:50.000 He wasn't.

00:45:50.000 Yeah.

00:45:51.000 They're going to mention that Bondi and Blanche said in the coming days they would be speaking with Ghylaine Maxwell.

00:45:58.000 And you guys get the point.

00:45:59.000 For his part, Sanovich told the Daily Mail he had not been leaned on by anyone in the White House to stop talking about Epstein and added that he would refuse to do so if asked.

00:46:07.000 He warned this might be the only issue where the MAGA base will truly assert itself on about any other issue.

00:46:13.000 Trump can drive the train wherever he wants, not on Epstein.

00:46:16.000 I do believe the White House is probably making phone calls to various influencers.

00:46:21.000 We are not included in that.

00:46:22.000 Nobody's called me.

00:46:23.000 Why not, huh?

00:46:24.000 Why not?

00:46:24.000 I'm not an influencer.

00:46:26.000 How come they don't call me?

00:46:26.000 You say, Tim.

00:46:28.000 And I got people commenting saying Tim got the call.

00:46:30.000 And I'm like, I wish.

00:46:32.000 I thought they passed a lot a note when he was in the White House briefing or to give this to Tim.

00:46:36.000 They called Candace Omens about calling Bridget McCone a man, but they won't call me about this stuff.

00:46:41.000 Come on.

00:46:42.000 They didn't invite me to this either.

00:46:43.000 And I can't remember who I was talking to.

00:46:45.000 I was talking to another personality.

00:46:47.000 And when the story broke, literally the day of, I was talking to Cernovich as well as a couple others.

00:46:53.000 And I got some of the information that they had put out before the embargo was lifted.

00:46:57.000 And I was speaking with another journalist, and we were both kind of like, yeah, they wouldn't invite something like this because we wouldn't adhere to an embargo on something like that.

00:47:04.000 And if you didn't, it would have busted their campaign.

00:47:07.000 Because what they did was they brought everybody in, gave them binders, and said, wait until after the press conference with Kier Starmer before you talk about this.

00:47:15.000 Then they shuttled them out the door in front of all of the fawning press where they all took pictures of them with the binders.

00:47:21.000 Then they said, don't talk about it for several hours.

00:47:24.000 If those individuals took that binder and said, I will not embargo this and opened it up, they would have been like, this is all publicly available information.

00:47:32.000 You've given me nothing.

00:47:33.000 And it would have immediately spoiled.

00:47:35.000 If one person, one influencer went in there and said, this stuff is already been publicly disclosed and unredacted, all the rest of them would have been like, whoa, whoa, I'm not doing this.

00:47:48.000 So they chose the people they thought wouldn't play hardball.

00:47:52.000 Cernovich, to his credit, is actually in the photos walking away.

00:47:56.000 It appears he's trying not to be caught because he's like, I want to read this and be respectful.

00:48:02.000 And then once he did, again, he contacted me.

00:48:06.000 I think I reached out to him or he reached out to me.

00:48:07.000 I can't remember.

00:48:07.000 I think he reached out to me.

00:48:09.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:48:10.000 And was like, yo, check it out almost right away.

00:48:13.000 And we were like, okay, I don't know what's in those binders yet, but we got this letter that said that the information was being withheld by SDNY.

00:48:22.000 And then sure enough, I think the first person to post the letter was Benny Johnson almost immediately.

00:48:29.000 And everyone laughed because they're like, oh, Benny broke the embargo.

00:48:31.000 But now the embargo is broken.

00:48:32.000 It's fair game.

00:48:34.000 But I think, you know, the people they brought in, you know, I don't want to disparage any of these people.

00:48:38.000 I don't, you know, they are who they are.

00:48:40.000 I think Cernovich does great.

00:48:41.000 I'm a big fan of Cernovich actually.

00:48:43.000 He's awesome.

00:48:43.000 I respect him a lot.

00:48:44.000 But there are a handful of people that are smiling and dancing around and waving these things in the air, seemingly more excited that they're included than that they're going to be part of any kind of accountability, of which we never got any.

00:48:55.000 So it looks like, at least to a certain degree, there is evidence that the White House is making phone calls to people to try and control the narrative.

00:49:03.000 They're very upset about this.

00:49:05.000 Yeah.

00:49:06.000 I mean, the Cernovich thing, that was just such a self-own if you're like a White House press person, because that's like, if you're thinking of the Epstein story, Cernovich is like one of the top guys.

00:49:16.000 I mean, it'd be like getting Greta Van Sussen to like drop the white girl in Aruba, whatever that case was. 1.00

00:49:20.000 It's like, that's like the thing.

00:49:22.000 He's not going to drop that.

00:49:23.000 So that was like a total, total self-owned.

00:49:26.000 And then, yeah, like you said, the other guys that came along and they're smiling.

00:49:29.000 It's like, yo, this is a case about like molestation, like child crimes, crimes, you know, involving children.

00:49:36.000 And they're like smiling and just like, this is the greatest thing ever.

00:49:38.000 Like it's a red carpet.

00:49:39.000 And I'm just like, it was like an F you to the press.

00:49:41.000 It was, yeah.

00:49:42.000 Yeah, but it's like, this isn't, this is like something super heinous, which everyone knows.

00:49:46.000 That's the problem.

00:49:47.000 I was talking about this last the last week I was on.

00:49:49.000 I was like, look, people, there's like a disconnect once you start working in this medium.

00:49:53.000 Like there's a disconnect between the heinousness of crimes or the seriousness of the policies and the things that are being discussed and your ability to relay that information back in the day when it was through corporate press.

00:50:05.000 You had a guy in a suit.

00:50:06.000 It was all vetted through however many sources. 0.98

00:50:08.000 Now, most of it was narrative bullshit, as we know, that, you know, was fed to people in a certain way. 0.65

00:50:13.000 But nowadays, it's very hard for people to tell the difference between what they're looking at through social media influencers and somebody who's like a news influencer. 0.94

00:50:22.000 And it just doesn't feel like it takes that same rigorous tone, even if we know that the rigorous tone of old was all mostly just corporate approved slop as well.

00:50:31.000 But it feels different now.

00:50:33.000 And for those people who are in this sphere, sometimes you lose sight of the fact that what you're looking at affects real lives.

00:50:40.000 Real people were harmed.

00:50:42.000 Real things happened.

00:50:43.000 And like normal Americans aren't in on the bit.

00:50:45.000 They're like, we want to figure out what happened.

00:50:46.000 Like, I get it's like a middle finger to the press or whatever.

00:50:49.000 It's like, we don't really care what your relationship with the press is like.

00:50:51.000 We want to figure out what happened.

00:50:54.000 Yeah, I mean, the I don't know.

00:50:58.000 I'm still of the opinion that they've got to release as much information as they can.

00:51:01.000 So, okay.

00:51:02.000 So you were saying that the people that you talked to, you said 72 people, you asked them about it, all of them said...

00:51:10.000 Yeah, but they said that it doesn't matter to them.

00:51:13.000 They don't believe it anymore.

00:51:14.000 It's not that they don't care that kids got hurt.

00:51:19.000 They don't believe that it's true.

00:51:20.000 It's not that.

00:51:22.000 It's just that it doesn't rise to the top of...

00:51:28.000 That's really what it boils down.

00:51:31.000 You can take that as simply as why they've never bought into the whole press and push on climate change.

00:51:41.000 That doesn't affect their lives.

00:51:43.000 It's not that they don't care about the climate.

00:51:46.000 They do.

00:51:46.000 They don't want the earth to catch on fire or whatever.

00:51:52.000 It depends on, I think when it comes to climate, I'm not trying to derail who, but I think when it comes to climate change stuff, that really depends on your age.

00:51:57.000 Like, I remember when Al Gore put out the inconvenient truth in 2006 that all of the world was supposed to be underwater by now.

00:52:06.000 Like, the world was supposed to have ended.

00:52:08.000 And when I was a kid, when I was, you know, in the 80s, when I was a kid, it was the coming ice age and how bad everything was going to freeze.

00:52:16.000 So you have to.

00:52:21.000 I think Democrats should roll with the pole shift thing and just start just start being like, yes, we need more solar panels and electric vehicles because the Axis, you know, the Earth is tilting. 0.77

00:52:34.000 Yeah.

00:52:34.000 And to your point also, I imagine that if you ask those same people about the Obama scandal, they'll say, you know, maybe I think he's guilty, but it doesn't really change my life.

00:52:43.000 It doesn't put money in my pocket.

00:52:45.000 It doesn't change the economy.

00:52:46.000 And I always thought he did that anyways.

00:52:48.000 Yeah.

00:52:49.000 Right.

00:52:50.000 I always believed he did that anyways.

00:52:52.000 And I and so I'm not shocked, right?

00:52:57.000 Yeah, well, you have this thing where it's like with, you know, normal Americans, they've seen cover-up after cover-up after big story that doesn't go anywhere.

00:53:05.000 So they're at the point where they're just like, I'm sure they believe everything happened in the Epsteins, but it's like they know they're not going to get anything.

00:53:10.000 So what's the point of clamoring on about this bigger fish to fry?

00:53:13.000 Right.

00:53:14.000 And they've got real problems that they're really dealing with.

00:53:21.000 And this is something that happened far away.

00:53:25.000 And they don't trust that my profession has comported it in a way that has the intellectual vigor that it deserved.

00:53:39.000 And so they just have no trust in my profession.

00:53:43.000 I mean, it really comes down to that.

00:53:45.000 So then I have a question, and I'd like to hear everyone's input on this.

00:53:49.000 Gen Z is the generation that cares the most about the Epstein stuff if you go by polling data and stuff. 0.95

00:53:57.000 Gen Z is also the generation that has the most economic anxiety.

00:54:03.000 They have the least actual material possessions.

00:54:07.000 Why is it that Gen Z has the most significant problems when it comes to the economy, but this is also the thing that resonates with him the most?

00:54:18.000 Well, let me pull up this story real quick.

00:54:20.000 We have this story from Newsweek.

00:54:22.000 Trump has given back all gains he made with Gen Z in six months.

00:54:26.000 Now, the first thing I want to say is there's a bunch of views on this.

00:54:30.000 CBS News YouGov found that Trump's net approval among 18 to 29-year-olds has all but collapsed from 55 in February to 28% in July.

00:54:39.000 What we usually say in the news media when we're tracking things like this, if you're being honest, is that this is static.

00:54:44.000 This is a blip.

00:54:45.000 It's not something to take seriously.

00:54:47.000 When polls deviate so substantially from all other polls, mention them, but give pause because errors happen a lot.

00:54:56.000 Like Iowa.

00:54:58.000 That wasn't, I don't know if that was an error.

00:54:59.000 That being said, I don't believe Trump has lost Gen Z. And one of the arguments as to why Gen Z would be upset with Trump if this poll was correct is because he's not going far right enough.

00:55:10.000 Yes.

00:55:11.000 Yeah.

00:55:12.000 That's kind of the thing is like, A, Zoomers, much more emotional.

00:55:16.000 We'll say we love Trump one day and then it's all over the next day.

00:55:19.000 So it's like when a poll star calls you, it just depends on like what Trump said that.

00:55:22.000 It depends on what TikTok told you to watch.

00:55:24.000 Or that as well.

00:55:25.000 And then also it's like, like Tim said, like people on the left are like celebrating, like, see, finally, what happened to the conservative generation?

00:55:32.000 And I'm like, you don't understand.

00:55:33.000 These are people that are falling to the right of Trump that are like, whoa, he's like folding on like the farmer immigration raids.

00:55:38.000 Like, what?

00:55:39.000 I want a 10 million people gone.

00:55:40.000 But this is a huge point.

00:55:40.000 Yep.

00:55:42.000 Trump said numerous times, you know, the farmers or farmers are good people.

00:55:46.000 They've been here for years and they need to work and the hospitality as well.

00:55:51.000 And immediately these people are like, boo, like, no.

00:55:54.000 Literally.

00:55:55.000 Because we're talking about Gen Z's birthright being given away to non-citizens. 1.00

00:55:59.000 Yeah, we have a bit more urgency.

00:56:00.000 Okay, yes, you know, we get the label of being panican sometimes, but we do feel like our inheritance was stolen to a large degree.

00:56:07.000 So anytime that we see anything going against Trump's promise to sort of reclaim, make America great again, we take it a little bit more emotionally than older people.

00:56:17.000 You're catastrophic.

00:56:20.000 So then back to my question, why is it that they care the most about Epstein and they care when they have the most economic stuff to worry about?

00:56:28.000 Because the girls were their age.

00:56:32.000 Okay.

00:56:33.000 It's that simple.

00:56:34.000 They can see themselves in those girls' ages. 0.91

00:56:41.000 And in terms of the economy, I would say that they're happy with how things are going with the economy.

00:56:49.000 In particular, in my state, right?

00:56:52.000 You see what's happened.

00:56:54.000 I mean, people in my state are very, very happy.

00:56:56.000 Just what you see what happened with the U.S. deal.

00:56:59.000 Well, you've got a really business-friendly Democrat governor.

00:57:05.000 And two good senators and the president, like they were just.

00:57:05.000 Yeah.

00:57:10.000 Is Fetterman still popular in Poland?

00:57:12.000 Oh, wildly popular.

00:57:13.000 Do not believe what my profession writes.

00:57:15.000 He is wildly popular.

00:57:19.000 And so is McCormick, and so is Trump, and so is Shapiro.

00:57:24.000 Because these guys tend to work together with job creation.

00:57:30.000 And to your point about economic issues, economic issues always, always are the most important things to people.

00:57:38.000 Tate, why do you think it is that Gen Z cares as much as they do about this case?

00:57:41.000 I think it's because it was the first and so far the only scandal from the U.S. government that's been heavily publicized.

00:57:48.000 It's like our JFK.

00:57:49.000 Yeah.

00:57:50.000 And so I think that's the main focus on it.

00:57:52.000 And then also because of social media, we learned a lot more about it rapidly versus like in the 60s or 70s when a scandal broke out.

00:57:59.000 It took a lot of time.

00:58:00.000 The first thing I thought was like, this is their first exposure to the idea of corruption being rooted, you know, with the idea when Trump took office that they were going to bring in a new way of doing things with the government.

00:58:10.000 People who've been alive for any length of time, who know that nothing changes in the government, take that idea with perhaps more of a grain of salt.

00:58:18.000 Whereas with Gen Z, because this was like maybe their first experience with that, that they're seeing that they made these promises. 0.99

00:58:25.000 These promises aren't being met.

00:58:26.000 I don't know if it's necessary, if I, if I buy that it's necessarily that they identified with them as much, is that they identified with the message that he initially had, and they feel like they're going back on that message, and they're kind of just making the same excuses that every administration before had made.

00:58:40.000 And that, like a lot of us who may be more black pilled than others, that nothing ever changes.

00:58:45.000 And I also think Zoomers are really good at dehumanizing people that they don't know personally. 1.00

00:58:50.000 So, like with the Epstein case, I think we're overrating.

00:58:52.000 That is true.

00:58:52.000 I think we're overrating the empathy of people seeing a name and a face through a screen.

00:58:57.000 Because if you just scroll Instagram Reels for 10 minutes, you're going to see some of the most brutal criticism of strangers you'll ever see in your entire life.

00:59:03.000 So, it's like, I wish that were the case, but I really don't think it's like an empathy thing.

00:59:08.000 Cause I think even me, just because that's how we grew up, we just see like, oh, well, that doesn't happen to me.

00:59:14.000 That kind of stuff doesn't happen to me or my friends.

00:59:15.000 That's something that happens far away.

00:59:17.000 And there's not really much empathy.

00:59:19.000 It's just because we've been like your brains are just completely overcooked on social media.

00:59:22.000 You're just, you're meeting like millions of people on a daily basis through your reels, through different names appearing.

00:59:27.000 You're meeting millions of people.

00:59:29.000 You're not going to clock them all as human beings.

00:59:32.000 So let's just think about my old generation.

00:59:36.000 Think about some of the things that we've gone through.

00:59:39.000 Which generation are you?

00:59:40.000 So it's actually called the generation Jones.

00:59:43.000 It's in between boomer and X. We're not really boomers, and we're not really X. And it's called Jones generation because you want what the Joneses have.

00:59:56.000 Right?

00:59:56.000 It was that.

00:59:59.000 So in my lifetime, I saw a president shot.

01:00:03.000 I saw his brother shot.

01:00:05.000 I saw Martin Luther King shot.

01:00:07.000 I saw George Wallace shot.

01:00:08.000 Malcolm ex, Ronald Reagan.

01:00:11.000 I saw the 1960s guys.

01:00:14.000 Let me just tell you, that was some wild stuff.

01:00:19.000 And so I understand your point, but I still think there's an empathetic quality to your generation.

01:00:28.000 I see it all the time.

01:00:30.000 I mean, yeah, I think to each other, we're probably, I would even argue, more empathetic than a lot of previous generations, like to people you know personally.

01:00:38.000 The problem is we don't know that many people personally because our social structures are completely busted.

01:00:43.000 Is it true that there are Gen Zers throwing their phones away?

01:00:46.000 No.

01:00:47.000 I don't believe it's busted.

01:00:48.000 It's propaganda.

01:00:49.000 Oh, God, no, that is not happening.

01:00:51.000 They were like that there were a group of Gen Z that have started putting their phones and leaving them and going out in the world. 0.98

01:00:55.000 I'm like, no, they're not.

01:00:56.000 They don't know what the world is.

01:00:57.000 There was people, there was a thing going on for a while where influencers were buying dumb phones and then making videos about using dumb phones.

01:01:04.000 There's my phone.

01:01:05.000 Yeah, and they're like, and then they're coming back like shaking with withdrawals.

01:01:09.000 They're like, I did it.

01:01:12.000 I went three hours without my phone and holy crap.

01:01:14.000 But, you know, it was like when they did like quiet walking, which was just walking without your phone.

01:01:21.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:01:22.000 It's a grim out there.

01:01:25.000 When it comes to the way that Gen Z has matured, I think that the trauma that they've seen in their life, for lack of a better word, I mean, they saw the 2008 economic crash when they were little.

01:01:38.000 I mean, how old were you when that happened?

01:01:40.000 I was seven.

01:01:41.000 Seven?

01:01:42.000 So you may not have known the repercussions, or maybe it didn't affect you, but there was a lot of people whose families lost everything.

01:01:49.000 You had Rush Limbaugh on the car.

01:01:50.000 I was fired up.

01:01:52.000 Let's go after him.

01:01:54.000 But there's a lot of Gen Z that had really bad experiences because of that because their families had bad experiences because of that.

01:02:02.000 And then they had, you know, 10 years later, they had COVID, or 11 years, 12 years later, they had COVID, which really destroyed their, you know, their social lives.

01:02:12.000 All their social structure.

01:02:13.000 It tore, they didn't get a ton of the things that kids normally get.

01:02:17.000 You know, and I think that those, then they had the whole, then they found out that COVID was a lie or there was so much around COVID that was a lie, not the actual, you know, not whether or not COVID existed, but like all of the things that went along with COVID were a lie.

01:02:30.000 Then they then they watched the whole Joe Biden, you know, entire presidency was a lie.

01:02:35.000 So, I mean, I guess that it makes perfect sense that they're cynical.

01:02:39.000 But I don't know, I don't know why they still have so much, like, how much, they have so much, I don't know what the word for it is.

01:02:50.000 So they feel like Epstein matters to them more than anyone else.

01:02:55.000 More than any other generation. 0.99

01:02:56.000 There's no centrists in Gen Z because what I can at least respect. 1.00

01:02:59.000 All Zumerwaffen are communists. 1.00

01:03:02.000 What I can at least respect about a communist is they've also identified that the current, whatever's going on is not working whatsoever.

01:03:08.000 So it's like, okay, they're evil, you know, Marxists.

01:03:10.000 It's like they're trying to kill me. 0.57

01:03:12.000 But at least, you know, they have also identified that there's an issue.

01:03:15.000 And that's kind of the problem.

01:03:16.000 That's why people like Epstein, there's no one's going to have a moderate take on Epstein.

01:03:20.000 You're just describing the basic process by which we've got the Spanish Civil War or Russian Revolution.

01:03:26.000 It is not, people assume it's like there's a group of people sitting in a room and they're all like, we're moderates.

01:03:31.000 And then some catastrophe happens, some clickle thing happens, and they go, I've been awakened to communism.

01:03:35.000 No, what happens is younger generations start to overwrite the older generations with more and more extremist ideology until they're fighting.

01:03:41.000 When you see like a moderate, like a Zoomer moderate influencer on TikTok, you're just like, oh, here we go.

01:03:41.000 Oh, yeah.

01:03:46.000 It's like seeing a Mormon come to your door. 1.00

01:03:47.000 You're just like, oh, what do you want?

01:03:50.000 And I imagine like being Gen Z, having to hear like millennials tell you to put your mask on.

01:03:55.000 And Barack Obama was like, they're just like, I hate you.

01:03:58.000 Yeah.

01:03:58.000 Yeah, I know.

01:03:59.000 Like, I see the, and I understand the importance of like Zoron speaking directly to the voter.

01:04:06.000 That's like, that's resonating to a degree because it's like, it's kind of cutting past the overdone speeches and everything.

01:04:13.000 Because like the millennials, I think it was a generation of like the actual like high school musical, like the big speech.

01:04:19.000 And we're going to win everyone over.

01:04:20.000 I don't know if Zoomers really have that. 1.00

01:04:22.000 I think they want irony and kind of like just straight talk.

01:04:26.000 Zoomers aren't going to have anything. 1.00

01:04:28.000 They're basically like every single piece of content and culture that's been developed right now is for millennials.

01:04:34.000 Well, that's, that's, that's awesome.

01:04:34.000 Yeah.

01:04:34.000 Oh, yeah.

01:04:36.000 We were talking about this earlier.

01:04:37.000 I was like, we got Scrubs coming back, Malco in the Middle, King of the Hill. 1.00

01:04:41.000 Married with children, too.

01:04:42.000 No.

01:04:44.000 Maybe what I saw was fake, but.

01:04:45.000 I know Neil's like 900.

01:04:46.000 That's my generation.

01:04:48.000 And then, but the funny thing is, I think it was you, Tate.

01:04:50.000 You were like, we got the good video games.

01:04:51.000 Or was that Kellen?

01:04:52.000 Kellen was like, we have good video.

01:04:54.000 He was like, we got the video game.

01:04:54.000 I mean, we have Fortnite.

01:04:55.000 It was like, nah, bro.

01:04:56.000 And then I had to show them the Mario Brothers movie from the 90s and Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter.

01:05:01.000 Prime Fortnite lapse.

01:05:02.000 95 Mortal Kombat.

01:05:03.000 They're making a Fortnite movie.

01:05:05.000 They should.

01:05:06.000 I want to be in it.

01:05:07.000 It's going to be Jack Black.

01:05:08.000 They're going to roll him out forever.

01:05:09.000 Yeah.

01:05:11.000 You know what's kind of crazy is culturally, we have talked about how when Millennials grew up, we had this insane library of games.

01:05:18.000 Constant new game was coming out: Mega Man, Mega Man 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, Mega Man X, X2, X3.

01:05:24.000 And then they started making so many different games.

01:05:26.000 You're waiting for the next one to come out.

01:05:27.000 Final Fantasy, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.

01:05:29.000 And for Gen Z, it's like you've got Minecraft and Fortnite. 0.68

01:05:31.000 Have a nice day.

01:05:32.000 Yeah.

01:05:32.000 You get one GTA game every you could like start a family in between each each game.

01:05:40.000 Yes.

01:05:41.000 Yeah, no, secret family.

01:05:42.000 I have two kids that are millennials.

01:05:44.000 Very conservative.

01:05:46.000 Yeah.

01:05:47.000 How much of this causes people to just like when Phil asked me earlier, I was like, so what do you think about Barack Obama and Trump?

01:05:53.000 Like I'm just, I'm so checked out of all of it.

01:05:55.000 Like I just, I don't believe or trust that any accountability is going to happen.

01:05:59.000 I don't have any faith that anything is actually ever going to change.

01:06:02.000 So most of like for me, I've checked out and gone the other way, which is that it's like, I can't, the way that I can make the world a better place is like, I'm getting married is to be a good husband, hopefully have a family very soon and take care of the people in my life, in my corner of the world.

01:06:18.000 And the rest of this stuff, as important as it is, like when we were talking about last week, about like if you delete X off your phone, does anything really change?

01:06:25.000 Yes, it matters.

01:06:25.000 A terrorist could be in your neighborhood and somebody could be posting there's a terrorist.

01:06:29.000 But most for the most of the time, it's like you have to focus on what you can do in your corner of the world and the rest of it is just normal.

01:06:36.000 You're getting like Faraday bags for your phones and burying computers and microwaves underground for the solar flare that's coming to wipe out all of humanity.

01:06:44.000 I have Faraday bags for many things.

01:06:47.000 Just saying.

01:06:48.000 A lot of people live that life.

01:06:50.000 I run into them every day.

01:06:52.000 This may be pessimistic, but right now, the most logical outcome of what we're in is the collapse of the political system in one form or another.

01:07:01.000 It could mean that, you know, we've had this happen before in light ways and crazy ways.

01:07:04.000 The crazy way is civil war.

01:07:06.000 The light way is all the incumbents are voted out of Congress and there's like a thirst.

01:07:10.000 I've done that.

01:07:11.000 I think it was like the 50s, right?

01:07:12.000 Yeah, we've done that several times.

01:07:14.000 Several cycles we've done that.

01:07:15.000 Everyone's just like, everybody out.

01:07:18.000 But again, to the point where the Obama administration, Democrats, the Obama cohorts, and the corporate press are calling Trump a pedo or insinuating it heavily. 0.95

01:07:28.000 And then Trump is calling him a traitor. 0.88

01:07:29.000 It's like, pick one.

01:07:31.000 There's no middle ground.

01:07:33.000 Well, I mean, you know, we have to also remember a lot of this stuff has happened before.

01:07:39.000 You think about Jefferson when Washington was president. 0.82

01:07:43.000 He put in his Secretary of State office a guy that ran a newspaper and ran shit about Washington that was detrimental to him. 0.92

01:07:54.000 So we have always put it. 0.97

01:07:56.000 But to this degree?

01:07:57.000 Huh?

01:07:57.000 To this degree?

01:07:58.000 Oh, yeah.

01:07:59.000 You should look it up.

01:08:00.000 Accusing him of treason against the United States?

01:08:03.000 I'm not.

01:08:04.000 Treason may have been used.

01:08:05.000 Wow.

01:08:06.000 It was pretty bad.

01:08:07.000 Go take a look at the election between Adams and Jefferson.

01:08:11.000 That news media.

01:08:13.000 One of them called the other a hermaphrodite.

01:08:15.000 Yes.

01:08:16.000 It's like eight days to get there and they're writing very, very impassioned letters to the editor.

01:08:22.000 History doesn't always repeat itself, but it rhymes a lot.

01:08:25.000 Do you know who else was shot in Butler?

01:08:29.000 George Washington.

01:08:30.000 Oh, wow.

01:08:32.000 Trump was not the only president that was shot in Butler.

01:08:35.000 If Abraham Lincoln lost the Civil War, he would go down in history as one of the worst presidents of all time, not for losing, but for violating the Constitution and arresting his political opponents.

01:08:44.000 But he won, and Congress retroactively just agreed with him.

01:08:48.000 All the illegal things that he did to preserve the Union, which is crazy.

01:08:52.000 Yeah, I mean, we have gone through some crazy things.

01:08:55.000 We didn't, you know, sometimes we get really frustrated and we don't think things are transparent.

01:08:59.000 But honestly, the way we police ourselves on X and on social media, there's a lot of transparency out there.

01:09:06.000 And we know more about what is happening as opposed to the people, you know, in Washington's time or Lincoln's time, right?

01:09:15.000 You just didn't know.

01:09:16.000 Well, I think a lot of the kind of ambivalence that people feel, maybe this is just my own projection here, but a lot of the ambivalence that is felt just comes from the fact that there's so much information all the time.

01:09:27.000 Like back in the day, you had your three, your four trusted news outlets that people foolishly agreed with and they got their information.

01:09:33.000 If they said someone's a bad guy, they're like, oh, this is awful.

01:09:36.000 Now you're just, you're bombarded with endless information about endless people being bad guys and you can't focus on all of it.

01:09:44.000 Nobody has the time or the brainpower to do that.

01:09:47.000 Back in the day, you literally offloaded your agency to this network to say, I trust them, therefore it must be true.

01:09:54.000 Nobody's doing that anymore.

01:09:56.000 You might have like a couple of influencers or I guess correspondents or people who work in this space that you, you know, you've followed them for a period of time.

01:10:05.000 So you kind of, you're going to take them at their word because their track record has held up.

01:10:09.000 But for the most part, people aren't willing to do that anymore.

01:10:13.000 Again, this might be a projection on my own part.

01:10:15.000 So the idea is like, I just can't care at all because nobody has the time to do the due diligence on literally everything that you're being told is awful now.

01:10:24.000 Well, and just to prove how disruptive just the news or their cultural curators, right?

01:10:33.000 The power that's been dispersed.

01:10:35.000 Let's just think last week.

01:10:37.000 I become, live in the middle of Pennsylvania, went to community college, and my book becomes the number one New York Times bestseller the same day that Colbert loses that, not just he loses his job, the whole entire tonight show is gone.

01:11:02.000 The late show, right?

01:11:03.000 The late show.

01:11:04.000 The late show.

01:11:05.000 Sorry, late show, tonight show, tomorrow show.

01:11:09.000 Whatever.

01:11:10.000 I mean, that just shows how disruptive the time that we're in.

01:11:16.000 And it's all of our cultural curators.

01:11:20.000 It's not just legacy media.

01:11:22.000 Look what you guys do here.

01:11:23.000 Look how many people that you get to come to listen to this and learn something new.

01:11:29.000 It's very, very, probably got a lot more people listening to this than watching the nightly news.

01:11:37.000 Colbert needs to like.

01:11:39.000 What do you get?

01:11:40.000 What do you, what would you?

01:11:41.000 We do like 700,000, 800,000.

01:11:42.000 Colbert was getting 3 million, but it was largely 70-year-olds.

01:11:46.000 And then we get like 700,000, 800,000, and it's mostly like 30-year-olds.

01:11:46.000 Yeah.

01:11:50.000 So buying power right there.

01:11:52.000 Those are the people that and all of our culture.

01:11:55.000 The problem is that Gen Z doesn't have any money and boomers do. 1.00

01:11:59.000 18 to 49 used to be the go-to demographic because there was buying power in the upper upper half of that.

01:12:05.000 Now the problem is our demo is like 30 to 50.

01:12:11.000 We do have Gen Z watch, but they're broke. 1.00

01:12:14.000 So we can't really sell sponsorships to them.

01:12:16.000 And we don't have a lot of the older viewers the way cable TV does.

01:12:19.000 And all they're selling to them is like, to be honest, it's like that face cream for men and drugs.

01:12:25.000 That's what they do.

01:12:25.000 I'm not kidding.

01:12:27.000 Colbert needs to like, they need to go back to hating each other, like Leno and Letters.

01:12:32.000 Let's go pro wrestling.

01:12:33.000 They're like, competitive spirit.

01:12:34.000 Did you see they're all like standing in solidarity with him? 1.00

01:12:38.000 Like Kimberley, like a naive fucking loser. 1.00

01:12:41.000 She compete against each other. 1.00

01:12:43.000 Sucks to suck. 1.00

01:12:45.000 Speaking of WWE, let's jump to this story from Newsweek. 1.00

01:12:45.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:12:49.000 Candace Owens sued by Macron over claim Bridget is in fact a man.

01:12:56.000 That's the story.

01:12:57.000 What's defamatory about that?

01:12:58.000 So this is the question I had.

01:13:00.000 If in fact Bridget McCrone is a transgender woman, how is that defamatory? 0.73

01:13:04.000 Honest question.

01:13:05.000 Now, obviously, if you're a conservative and you're a female and someone says you're a guy, you're going to be like, how dare you?

01:13:10.000 That's insulting.

01:13:11.000 And you would say it's bad for my reputation.

01:13:13.000 But the argument for them is they're basically saying it is inherently damaging to your reputation and costs you money to be accused of being transgender.

01:13:22.000 And that's the story.

01:13:24.000 Yeah.

01:13:24.000 That is the story.

01:13:25.000 None of the rest of it is the story.

01:13:27.000 The catsuer.

01:13:28.000 That's the story.

01:13:28.000 Like the loss is going to get tossed in two seconds and a waste of everyone's time.

01:13:31.000 And all it does is make the story bigger and give Candace Owens more PR. 1.00

01:13:34.000 Yeah.

01:13:35.000 And there's so many elements to that story.

01:13:35.000 Amazing.

01:13:37.000 Like, it's not just like, what was it?

01:13:38.000 She was like a teacher and like she groomed him.

01:13:41.000 She? 0.98

01:13:41.000 Or he, yeah, he was a teacher. 0.98

01:13:43.000 And then like, no.

01:13:44.000 I don't know what's going on.

01:13:46.000 You're going to get sued next, man.

01:13:47.000 I could get groomed at this rate.

01:13:49.000 I mean, if, dude, if Big Manny went down, dude, any of us could be next.

01:13:52.000 I think it's funny that Big Mike has never sued anybody.

01:13:55.000 Yeah.

01:13:56.000 I was going to bring that up.

01:13:56.000 I was like, is that, does that mean that she's like, they're just keeping it secret or because It is.

01:14:06.000 No, I think Michelle Obama is just like, you can't sue for this.

01:14:10.000 And Bridget McCrone is like, I will not be defending.

01:14:13.000 Michelle Obama's podcast is like a perfect example of like why the legacy media is failing now.

01:14:18.000 It's just, it's so whiny.

01:14:21.000 And it's, I, you know, for someone who had so much and still has so much, to have that much of a chip on your shoulder against everyone who was, who gave you grace, who gave you attention, who gave, who, who.

01:14:37.000 Who's worse, Michelle Obama or Megan Markle? 0.91

01:14:39.000 Oh, that is Megan Markle, yeah.

01:14:43.000 You know, I just want to say something real quick because we got this picture of Bridget McCrone and Megan McCrone.

01:14:47.000 And part of me is like, it's just so brutal. 0.99

01:14:50.000 Imagine being this haggard, disgusting old woman. 1.00

01:14:53.000 And instead of just being called a haggard, disgusting old woman, you get called a man. 0.99

01:14:56.000 Anybody familiar with Iron Maiden's mascot, Eddie? 0.97

01:15:00.000 She kind of looks like Eddie.

01:15:00.000 Yes.

01:15:03.000 Right?

01:15:04.000 I kind of wish you could just sue people for being mean to you.

01:15:07.000 Like, I'd be in like 20 lawsuits at all time.

01:15:09.000 Oh, that's essentially.

01:15:11.000 So it's two public figures.

01:15:13.000 She is the first lady of France suing Candace Owens, one of the biggest podcasters in the world, for being called a man.

01:15:20.000 But first, how are you going to prove to a court being called a man is defamatory?

01:15:24.000 More importantly, with Times v.

01:15:25.000 Sullivan, they have to prove that she actually knows, Candace actually knows Bridget is not a man, meaning there's some evidence given to Candace.

01:15:35.000 Like, they would literally need chats from Candace being like, I know she's a woman, but this gets clicks. 0.99

01:15:40.000 That would give it, you can't get that because you'll never get to discovery.

01:15:43.000 It'll get either anti-slapped out. 0.99

01:15:45.000 I don't know if Delaware is anti-slapped.

01:15:46.000 But then they're going to go to the Times v.

01:15:47.000 Sullivan precedent and they're going to say, you're two public figures.

01:15:50.000 Get out.

01:15:50.000 Why?

01:15:51.000 You can't.

01:15:51.000 Can you prove damages?

01:15:52.000 No.

01:15:53.000 This is not defamation per se.

01:15:55.000 So thank you and have a nice day.

01:15:56.000 All the Macron's did was make sure everyone on the planet knew Candace thinks Bridget's a man. 1.00

01:16:02.000 I just don't know why her husband didn't sue her for slapping him in front of everybody.

01:16:07.000 Yeah, for me.

01:16:08.000 Unless he liked it.

01:16:10.000 Come on.

01:16:10.000 Yeah, he's into it.

01:16:11.000 You know, hey, different strokes for different folks.

01:16:12.000 I'm not going to rag out of that.

01:16:14.000 Now we're not judging him. 0.98

01:16:16.000 Then he saw that it was on video and he liked it even more and he's like, oh, crap. 0.76

01:16:19.000 Yeah, now they turn it on.

01:16:21.000 They turn it on while they're in.

01:16:22.000 He's like, I used to pay for this kind of humiliation.

01:16:25.000 Oh, my God. 0.98

01:16:27.000 Yeah, so, you know, it's kind of funny because calling Bridget McCron a man would be akin to just saying she's ugly. 0.99

01:16:34.000 Imagine suing someone for saying you look gross. 0.88

01:16:37.000 I kind of want to be honest.

01:16:39.000 I want to be able to do that.

01:16:40.000 Take a look at this picture.

01:16:42.000 Why did they choose this photo where it clearly looks like Bridget is a guy wearing a wig?

01:16:47.000 Doesn't it?

01:16:49.000 If you could sue for insults, oh, it'd be over for everybody.

01:16:53.000 You can sue a ham sandwich.

01:16:54.000 Everyone.

01:16:54.000 Oh, Michael.

01:16:55.000 The entire internet would know me.

01:16:56.000 Yeah, every lawyer in my town would know me.

01:16:56.000 You're not going to win.

01:17:00.000 I mean, I've got every 25 years of people saying they don't like my band.

01:17:05.000 Yeah.

01:17:06.000 Oh, my God.

01:17:07.000 Do you know that people hate me?

01:17:07.000 Cha-ching.

01:17:09.000 I'm sure.

01:17:10.000 I mean, I can insult it every day.

01:17:11.000 Amazon levels.

01:17:14.000 On the internet, no one knows you're 14.

01:17:15.000 Okay.

01:17:16.000 That's right. 0.99

01:17:16.000 So when someone tweets at you and they're like, you're an ugly skank, it's like, yeah, and you're a child. 0.99

01:17:21.000 I don't care what you think. 1.00

01:17:22.000 You have no money.

01:17:23.000 You're getting sued anyway.

01:17:24.000 Sorry.

01:17:26.000 Give me some Legos or something.

01:17:27.000 That's right.

01:17:27.000 Give me the Lego.

01:17:28.000 Candace wakes up and it's like Christmas morning.

01:17:30.000 She's like, I'm going to make so much money off this.

01:17:32.000 Oh, seriously, this is crazy.

01:17:34.000 It's like the Macron sat down and said, what can we do to make sure everyone in the world thinks that you're a man and give Candace Owens a million dollars?

01:17:39.000 I know.

01:17:40.000 Let's launch a frivolous lawsuit that lands in the press and everyone will talk about it.

01:17:43.000 It was really poorly thought out.

01:17:47.000 It just continues the story.

01:17:49.000 Yeah.

01:17:50.000 It just continues the story.

01:17:51.000 It's made it from like, oh, this is kind of funny that Candace is doing that to like, what's, is there something?

01:17:55.000 I want to get on this.

01:17:57.000 I think Emmanuel Macron is a man.

01:18:01.000 I'm not convinced.

01:18:03.000 I'm not sure.

01:18:04.000 Well, figuratively, like in spirit, no.

01:18:08.000 But I'm pretty sure, based on those pictures, he's a guy.

01:18:10.000 Pick somebody more novel.

01:18:11.000 Like, I think Pete Buttigieg is a man than might be a bridge too far.

01:18:16.000 So, you know, what's really funny is you guys remember transvestigations? 0.69

01:18:19.000 Oh, yeah.

01:18:19.000 Yeah.

01:18:20.000 So, so, yeah, so back in the day, this still happens all the time.

01:18:24.000 These woke leftists and gender activists find pictures of random women on the internet and then accuse them of being secretly men who transitioned.

01:18:34.000 Oh, my God.

01:18:35.000 And that's what Candace Owens did here. 1.00

01:18:37.000 She did probably the most notable trans investigation we've ever seen and got sued for it. 0.54

01:18:42.000 Oh, man.

01:18:43.000 2025 is crazy.

01:18:45.000 Well, they've been doing trans investigation for a long time.

01:18:48.000 Yeah.

01:18:48.000 At least a decade.

01:18:49.000 There's the inverse one now where like right-wingers will take like just like a 10 out of 10 woman and post it on like a trans subreddit and be like, oh, right, right. 0.99

01:18:56.000 Do I look good?

01:18:57.000 What do you think?

01:18:57.000 Three months in?

01:18:59.000 Yep.

01:18:59.000 And then dudes just be like flipping out.

01:19:03.000 I don't even pass.

01:19:04.000 That's probably what she saw.

01:19:05.000 Get over here, manning.

01:19:07.000 That's probably what she saw.

01:19:08.000 What if like the trans subreddits are literally just male zoomers? 0.95

01:19:12.000 All screwing up. 0.98

01:19:15.000 Everyone's just mentally distrained.

01:19:17.000 Just wasting time. 0.98

01:19:18.000 Well, I mean, y'all got, you got, you guys grew up dancing to that hot dog garbage from Disney, so you're weird, dude. 0.98

01:19:23.000 That's right. 0.97

01:19:23.000 You see how you're cooked. 0.97

01:19:24.000 That's a huge generational divide.

01:19:26.000 That song's a banger.

01:19:26.000 Hot dog.

01:19:28.000 I'm going to pull.

01:19:29.000 It's a dog.

01:19:29.000 Oh, my God.

01:19:30.000 Listen to that song.

01:19:31.000 They got good taste.

01:19:32.000 They got good taste.

01:19:34.000 Now it's stuck in my head.

01:19:35.000 Look at this.

01:19:36.000 Okay.

01:19:37.000 One hour longer.

01:19:40.000 Look at this.

01:19:41.000 Look, she's hitting that. 1.00

01:19:42.000 Look. 0.63

01:19:43.000 It's a goofy.

01:19:46.000 Goofy's got to go.

01:19:48.000 It's got to go in.

01:19:51.000 You know.

01:19:52.000 You've been hitting that, dude.

01:19:54.000 This video is one hour long.

01:19:57.000 Not long enough.

01:19:58.000 But then.

01:19:58.000 Not long enough.

01:19:59.000 Are you serious?

01:20:00.000 Yes.

01:20:01.000 You're pretty smart for having absorbed that kind of stuff.

01:20:04.000 What did you do?

01:20:05.000 What happened?

01:20:05.000 You locked in.

01:20:05.000 What did your parents do?

01:20:06.000 I watched this.

01:20:08.000 I didn't watch that.

01:20:09.000 My mom tried to make me watch Baby Einstein. 0.99

01:20:11.000 I was like, get this crap off of Mickey. 0.98

01:20:13.000 Where's Mickey? 0.99

01:20:15.000 Kids, yo, this is why I'm saying, like, Gen Z, Gen Alpha is going to be a bunch of, like, they can't read.

01:20:21.000 They can't read.

01:20:23.000 They can barely speak.

01:20:24.000 They don't know to answer.

01:20:25.000 Like, these teachers are talking about in school, Gen Alpha are just basically drooling at their desks. 1.00

01:20:30.000 The schools are going to be like dog shelters.

01:20:32.000 They're all just like, take me home.

01:20:34.000 It's going to be bad, dude.

01:20:35.000 It's going to be wild.

01:20:36.000 Yeah.

01:20:36.000 You know, but the conspiracy theory is that it was intentional that the globalists, they call, again, this is a conspiracy theory.

01:20:45.000 The purpose of the COVID educational stunt was to force developed nations to, you can't force the bottom up, but you can cut off the tallgrass.

01:20:56.000 So the idea is if you force a developed nation's children to be stunted by a decade, it will level them out with the rest of the nations and then force them to all start developing at the exact same time.

01:21:08.000 So it was an attempt at normalization.

01:21:10.000 So Gen Alpha are going to function like third worlders. 1.00

01:21:13.000 I don't know, because like the third world countries had the toughest crackdowns.

01:21:16.000 Like my friends were in Trinidad.

01:21:17.000 They wanted everybody to be basically like, boom.

01:21:23.000 They're like, you can't go outside all day.

01:21:25.000 Sorry.

01:21:26.000 Maybe, maybe, maybe, maybe the real story is the aliens are like, humans are developing too quickly.

01:21:31.000 Let's pull them back together.

01:21:32.000 You've seen Mickey Mouse?

01:21:33.000 They're getting pretty good.

01:21:34.000 We might need to nip it in.

01:21:36.000 Yeah, Goofy's hitting that.

01:21:37.000 It's going to nip it in the bud.

01:21:39.000 It's a possibility.

01:21:40.000 I don't know.

01:21:41.000 No, I totally agree.

01:21:42.000 Like, it's really sad.

01:21:43.000 Like, I went to my college career coincided with COVID, like, almost to a T. And it's like, I see, like, I'm learning new social skills at like 24 that I should have learned when I was 18 or 19.

01:21:56.000 But I just got like nuked right off the rip.

01:21:57.000 Like, I got spawn killed, basically.

01:21:59.000 I was just talking to a dude. 0.62

01:22:00.000 Spawn killed.

01:22:01.000 I was just talking to a guy and he was like, you know, oh, so you had a kid?

01:22:04.000 And I was like, yeah, he's like, how old?

01:22:05.000 And I was like, five months now.

01:22:06.000 He's like, I got two, 17 and 12.

01:22:06.000 And he's like, oh, okay.

01:22:08.000 I was like, 17?

01:22:09.000 How old are you?

01:22:10.000 And I was like, oh, yeah, that's normal.

01:22:10.000 And he's like, 38.

01:22:13.000 That's normal.

01:22:14.000 People were going crazy when Ilhan Omar's daughter was protesting and they were like, she's 21.

01:22:19.000 How old is she? 0.98

01:22:20.000 Like, yeah, Ilhan Omar is like 40-something.

01:22:20.000 What?

01:22:22.000 She's like, what is he, like, 43?

01:22:23.000 Yeah.

01:22:24.000 So she had a kid at a normal age, like people do.

01:22:26.000 Yeah.

01:22:27.000 And millennials are just permanent children who are like, I can't believe you had a kid at a normal age. 1.00

01:22:31.000 I'm 40 and I just had my first.

01:22:33.000 Yeah.

01:22:34.000 They were just hit with so much propaganda, so much propaganda in their early 20s to prevent them from having families, getting married.

01:22:41.000 Well, the economy, bro.

01:22:43.000 Yeah.

01:22:43.000 I ain't about to have a kid in 2008.

01:22:45.000 I don't know.

01:22:45.000 I was trying to be a dishwasher.

01:22:47.000 Like a lot of the stuff that I see about that feels like, as true as it is, like you see these intellectual think pieces about why people were the way they were during the 2008 collapse.

01:22:57.000 But it really was like you were told, you have time, just wait, you know, get your degree, do this, this, and that.

01:23:04.000 And they kind of grew up in a world where there was so much media being thrown at them that they're like, they were numbed to the idea that the world isn't as easy as like what you see on TV, where like all the boring andan stuff that takes time, like making appointments and doing all these, like, you never see that in the movies and the TV shows.

01:23:20.000 Now they get up, they're like, my mom doesn't make my appointments anymore and I'm dying. 0.97

01:23:24.000 Can I just point out that Disney turned comments off on their psycho babble garbage?

01:23:29.000 And I bet the thumbs down, there's 121 million views with only 316,000 thumbs up, implying the thumbs down it's going to be over a million. 0.71

01:23:38.000 You know, and I was like, the little kids that watch it can't like.

01:23:38.000 Oh.

01:23:41.000 No, it's because regular people are probably saying this is bad mind like brain garbage. 0.97

01:23:48.000 And Disney doesn't care because they've made probably like 10 million bucks on this or something. 0.98

01:23:53.000 They're enemies.

01:23:54.000 Hey, you got to get on this.

01:23:56.000 No, it's like China.

01:23:56.000 They're like, we can't let them have this.

01:23:58.000 You got to get on it.

01:23:58.000 You can downvote it.

01:23:59.000 You got to get on YouTube and start making some fake accounts and thumbs up.

01:24:03.000 Like to that point is like the one thing about the economy, because people always really attribute the birth rate crisis to the economy, but it's like the birth rate was going down by 1980.

01:24:12.000 Like it's been descending at America's peak economy.

01:24:15.000 And then now like a lot of these other theories are breaking down.

01:24:18.000 Like Columbia's TFR is lower than ours.

01:24:20.000 Colombia is not a developed country by any stretch of the imagination.

01:24:23.000 So it's like every theory that we had about TFR relating to the economy or even like – That's the primary 100%.

01:24:34.000 Yeah, because in the 1970s when i'm getting out of high school like half my class was married before they were 20 and had three kids by the time they were 25 and by the way the economy in 1977 sucked we used to have to wait in line to get gas and you and you pittsburgh like in what kind of building oh in my family home in oh in a house

01:25:05.000 Yeah.

01:25:05.000 Your house?

01:25:05.000 That's crazy.

01:25:07.000 Yeah, I bought-During a bad economy, people owned houses.

01:25:10.000 Yeah.

01:25:11.000 Now we have, allegedly we have a good economy, and a bungalow costs half a million dollars in rural West Virginia.

01:25:16.000 The same house that I bought in 1980, which was $34,000, I was probably making $12,000 a year at that time.

01:25:34.000 Is now, that house just recently sold for $365,000.

01:25:39.000 It's the same house.

01:25:43.000 And your parents and your grandparents are like, you can own a house too, just don't drink Starbucks, and when you apply for a job, give a firm handshake.

01:25:50.000 Yeah, and you know what?

01:25:52.000 You just had kids.

01:25:53.000 Nobody told us, oh, don't have kids.

01:25:56.000 You just had them if you didn't have a good job.

01:25:59.000 A 900 square foot house in Chicago where I grew up is $215,000.

01:26:06.000 that's that's another boomerism that's this room and it's like where they're like if you need a job have you just walk in there with a resume and i'm like yeah they call security yeah if you did that now they like tell you to kill yourself we got the so this the us these two rooms uh should be i think about a thousand square feet yeah yeah the dollar that's the size the dollar it's it's it's uh no it's a little bit more than that actually i think it's 1500.

01:26:31.000 Guys, the dollar has lost 99% of its value versus gold since 1971.

01:26:38.000 It's okay, Phil.

01:26:39.000 Pull yourself up.

01:26:40.000 Oh my God.

01:26:42.000 It's actually almost 2,000 square feet, these two rooms.

01:26:45.000 So you can sell just this top floor.

01:26:47.000 Yeah, you can rent it out.

01:26:49.000 This is it.

01:26:51.000 This is all you got.

01:26:52.000 Can you leave or don't record?

01:26:53.000 Check this out.

01:26:55.000 The federal minimum wage in 1970 was $1.60 an hour.

01:26:59.000 Gold was pegged at $35 an ounce and backed a dollar which meant one hour of work was valued at 0.046 ounces of gold in today's money that would be 150 dollars an hour versus the current federal minimum wage of 725.

01:27:14.000 it's because the government has been irresponsible with the dollar and with the value of our currency and because and the the productivity that has come with modernization from the 70s has not transferred out to the average worker yeah yeah and the thing yeah well it doesn't even i i agree about the fed but it's not even it's not even just the fed because the fed started in 1913 and from 1913 until the 70s totally you know the

01:27:43.000 responsibility and like printing that much like when i saw m1 in 2020 i said well we're gonna have a really terrible next decade you're an economist we are yeah i'm an economist and like dude we're having a really terrible decade so hopefully we can pull ourselves up by our bootstraps it was like we did the 70s i was looking at these documents i guess watching all of these documentaries about like ruby ridge or like domestic terrorists and they're all like it's all these guys who go and they have all these complaints and grievances with the government but they buy like a plot of land for like five

01:28:13.000 dollars and a pack of bubble gum yeah and i'm like if that happened today if you could have all these grievances but then somebody's like i'll sell you this land for like a thousand dollars you're like maybe it's not that bad yeah like maybe i could just build a house even worse colts are operating in like studio apartments now don't come in here well you can't come it's get evicted it's over colt's over sorry guys we missed the missed the spaceship yeah what's the price of kool-aid today anyways i don't even know how you could uh make the kool-aid they

01:28:43.000 could afford the nikes yeah yeah have you seen how expensive shoes are luke is throwing shade at you uh serge oh yeah i said you're an economist and luke goes if he's an economist i'm a gynecologist oh yikes everyone knows that luke has never seen a vagina yeah it's not clam luke i would uh old milk right now is at four bucks a gallon nationally it's kind of like think about that like um remember when eggs were just the defining factor about whether the economy was

01:29:13.000 good here like two months ago now nobody's talking about it everybody just goes from trend to trend to trend and nothing's actually real right well that's why tomorrow we're going to open the show with a review of the fantastic four film see i'm as i was telling tim like i bought my tickets today and i literally audibly sighed as i bought them because i'm because pedro pascal is in it no i just i don't care about really yep 60s retro aesthetic just doesn't interest me sure sure i got all that but pedro pascal is it it's so

01:29:41.000 he's an actor well he's just in every movie i know i get it man geez but everybody who talks about him you know he must work for cheap right no no no no he's um he comes at a high cost now i guarantee you he's an immigrant i mean he's cutting our actors remember when he played trump in wonder woman he's yeah well maxwell lord he said he just recently he's like i'll never shave my face again i look so awful in that in that movie but he's been acting since like 99 so he's actually he's one of those rare success stories where he found his fame like way later in in life 0.98

01:30:11.000 but the better question is why he's always touching the women on the red carpets because he's got anxiety watching that it's like he never gets anxiety around men it's always around women that could have been the out like harvey winds he's like sorry i get nervous it's like these red carpet events and these award shows are very very difficult sorry i was a little anxious my bad i guess robert downey jr is going to be in the after credit scene oh i never stay for the post credit scenes anymore yeah because they're meaningless yeah i just go home and somebody's put it online i just go home

01:30:41.000 and somebody's put it online yeah i just go home and somebody's put it online yeah i just go home and don't care about the celebrity gossip stuff whatever the point is our culture i think can track well alongside the mcu's unraveling into chaotic nonsense so as the marvel movies became increasingly incoherent that was tracking alongside society's increasing incoherence i mean it's because endgame was 2019 and then you know covet happened and it's that that it could be covet but I just mean like we used to follow the hero's journey,

01:31:11.000 and that was the entertaining arc.

01:31:12.000 Well, they stopped doing that just when the Lucas Story film group also stopped.

01:31:16.000 That's when every, like, I don't know if it's you call it like a woke institutional conspiracy or takeover or intentionally, but all of a sudden, movies started being about nothing, and it made no sense.

01:31:16.000 Right.

01:31:29.000 It became subversive to start telling different stories because they feel that the hero's journey is a product of a different time when there was more patriarchal ideas in storytelling.

01:31:38.000 And, you know, what they perceive as stories that these days here are white Western ideals, even though that's not necessarily true about the hero's journey at large.

01:31:48.000 So they're making my book into a movie.

01:31:50.000 Oh.

01:31:51.000 And they've already started pre-production.

01:31:53.000 And I can tell you guys here, they just filmed the ending.

01:31:56.000 Peter Pascal is in it.

01:31:58.000 He's playing Trump again.

01:32:01.000 No.

01:32:02.000 But the ending is super cool because it's not just about what happened in Butler.

01:32:06.000 It's about the death of journalism and the importance of shoe leather journalism.

01:32:12.000 And at the end, you see my cowboy boots, because I always wear cowboy boots.

01:32:16.000 I saw Urban Cowboy 1980, and I thought, Deborah Winger, she's got it rocking.

01:32:21.000 I'm going to do it.

01:32:23.000 So you see my cowboy boots get in my old Jeep, and my Jeep is, last Jeep had 400,000 miles.

01:32:29.000 This one has 300,000 miles.

01:32:31.000 I think we've largely won.

01:32:34.000 The culture where I think is, it is so tremendous what we are seeing.

01:32:43.000 I even had an interview with an Axios reporter about the split over Trump, MAGA, Epstein, what was currently going on.

01:32:49.000 And it seemed like the first time the institutional press was going, we now recognize that the right is composed of multiple different political factions and that is not a single group.

01:32:59.000 And it started to realize it.

01:33:01.000 And then I guess as an aside, we're getting profiled by the Wall Street Journal for better or for worse.

01:33:05.000 I don't know what that means, but they also, I believe they profiled Bannon.

01:33:08.000 So the corporate press is basically waving the white flag and realizing that they've lost this one.

01:33:14.000 And then you can take a look at just the general shift and how there's like how movies are starting to change.

01:33:20.000 I think people realize the Bud Light effect was dangerous and you're going to lose money and everyone's backtracking now.

01:33:25.000 Fantastic Four is getting good reviews from people that I do trust.

01:33:29.000 So, you know, despite the fact that it doesn't really interest me, I enjoyed Superman a lot and the people that I talked to liked it more than they liked Superman and they did like Superman.

01:33:38.000 Yeah.

01:33:38.000 I'm hearing it's going to be good.

01:33:40.000 I'm going to go see it tomorrow.

01:33:42.000 And apparently Robert Downey Jr. is going to be in the end or something.

01:33:44.000 And I don't like – Better that than going to see Eddington, the Ari Aster film about COVID.

01:33:55.000 Whoa.

01:33:56.000 Yeah.

01:33:58.000 I would actually, you know, they should AI, get this movie and just AI Pedro Pascal out of it and put somebody else in it.

01:34:05.000 Anyone.

01:34:06.000 I don't care.

01:34:06.000 It's so zesty.

01:34:07.000 They'll probably do it for the China release.

01:34:08.000 Yeah.

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01:34:25.000 For now, we're going to read what you guys have to say.

01:34:27.000 All right.

01:34:28.000 Incoherent Turd says, don't worry, guys, the referral is on Pam Bondi's desk.

01:34:31.000 Just 12 or 13 more Fox News interviews, and she might take a look at them.

01:34:35.000 Yep.

01:34:37.000 Flan the Man says, it doesn't matter.

01:34:39.000 They can refer anyone they want for persecution.

01:34:41.000 Prosecution, you mean?

01:34:43.000 But nothing ever happens because nobody will get arrested, even a mock arrest.

01:34:47.000 What if they were just like, we're going to send a file so we can persecute you?

01:34:50.000 And then they just literally harass you in your day-to-day life, but never actually prove it.

01:34:53.000 We have a file.

01:34:54.000 We're allowed to do it.

01:34:56.000 Misa Mori says, couldn't they open an investigation into the Epstein files as a conspiracy in the IC and then just not release anything because it's an active investigation?

01:34:56.000 All right.

01:35:03.000 Yes.

01:35:03.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:35:04.000 Trump could do so much to jam this up.

01:35:06.000 He's handling this miserably.

01:35:08.000 Where's the spy craft?

01:35:10.000 It's almost like these guys are too honest.

01:35:12.000 And Bongino's like, we don't have any evidence.

01:35:13.000 And you're like, what?

01:35:15.000 And he's like, we don't.

01:35:15.000 I don't believe you.

01:35:16.000 And then everyone's accusing me of being a spy.

01:35:18.000 I'm like, bro, if Bongino was trying to pull a fast one on you, he'd come out and be like, we're looking into it and we found some sick stuff.

01:35:24.000 So we're going to get this investigation going.

01:35:26.000 Trust me.

01:35:27.000 And that would be the last thing you ever heard of it.

01:35:29.000 Everyone would go, all right, I trust you, Dan.

01:35:31.000 So Dan's not lying to you.

01:35:32.000 They just don't have anything.

01:35:34.000 Trump may be lying.

01:35:35.000 Pam Bondi may be lying. 0.88

01:35:35.000 I don't know. 0.88

01:35:37.000 I'm just saying they're doing a pissport job of actually covering this up.

01:35:40.000 Yeah.

01:35:41.000 I operate under the premise that most politicians are lying all the time.

01:35:45.000 Yeah, I was interviewing Massey earlier, and I asked him if he thought the Obama criminal conspiracy was real.

01:35:51.000 And he just had this shocked expression.

01:35:53.000 He was like, I think all of DC and everything they're doing is an ongoing criminal conspiracy.

01:35:58.000 And I was like, yes, he's real.

01:35:59.000 Couldn't make me like him more.

01:36:01.000 Except for he's a politician, which means I can't like him based on that alone.

01:36:06.000 He's like the only real human being.

01:36:08.000 Rokana, I appreciate Rokana's efforts, but I just disagree with politically on everything.

01:36:12.000 Massey disagrees sometimes on a lot of on certain things, and it is what it is.

01:36:16.000 But it's just, it's so cringe how like Mike Johnson, what was he like, he went on Benny Johnson's show and he was like, we want transparency in these documents.

01:36:24.000 And then he's like, I'm not going to let you vote on this.

01:36:25.000 Go home.

01:36:27.000 We'll see what happens.

01:36:28.000 I think Massey was saying he's going to talk to him and they may actually get it through.

01:36:32.000 All right.

01:36:33.000 The James Black says, I feel like the reason Trump is handling this so bad is maybe his son is also implicated.

01:36:39.000 Maybe it is his son is also implicated.

01:36:42.000 I don't know.

01:36:43.000 I think it's going to be something embarrassing but not criminal.

01:36:46.000 It's going to be really bad for his reputation.

01:36:48.000 That makes the most sense.

01:36:49.000 It's going to be like tons of stuff about how he partied with Epstein and flew on his jets.

01:36:54.000 And he's going to be like, but I didn't do anything.

01:36:56.000 And they're going to say, ha, it was Trump.

01:36:58.000 It was you or something.

01:36:59.000 I don't know.

01:37:02.000 I don't believe that Trump, again, I mean, everybody said 800 million times.

01:37:05.000 If there was anything proving Trump was involved in Epstein's business, Democrats would have dumped that first thing.

01:37:12.000 Yeah.

01:37:12.000 I don't know.

01:37:13.000 I feel like what's what it is.

01:37:14.000 I think that there's probably economic information in there and that he's worried about the economic fallout from it.

01:37:19.000 That's what I've been thinking because I think Stick said that as well today.

01:37:21.000 I think that's the only thing I can think of.

01:37:23.000 I've racked my brain about this, but you know, I could be wrong.

01:37:26.000 Everyone could be wrong.

01:37:27.000 All right.

01:37:28.000 God Zomman says, no way.

01:37:30.000 the fact of it sticking around means that it's worth it because the nothing stories go away fast.

01:37:35.000 Americans are so used to fast stories, fast-paced, they can't retain the whole picture. 0.96

01:37:38.000 That's a good point.

01:37:40.000 You know, like I remember I was watching a bunch of Gen Z guys sitting outside in Virginia going like this on their phones like zombies. 0.97

01:37:47.000 If you can get a generation, and I mean like the American people, to focus on one story for two or three weeks, wow, it's kind of creepy.

01:37:58.000 A powerful story.

01:38:01.000 Yep.

01:38:02.000 God's Omen says, keep up the good work, Tim.

01:38:04.000 Been listening to you for many years while I'm building a house and appreciate that you have just been the same where all these Stephen Colberts change so quickly.

01:38:12.000 They certainly do.

01:38:14.000 Lansen says, Trump recently posted a pic of Lindsey Graham gloating about how great he is while trashing Massey for weeks.

01:38:20.000 Trump isn't our guy anymore.

01:38:22.000 We didn't turn our backs on him.

01:38:23.000 He turned his back on MAGA.

01:38:25.000 No, you're a panicking. 0.87

01:38:26.000 You're a panicking.

01:38:29.000 This has been his playbook for 10 years.

01:38:30.000 He rewards loyalty.

01:38:31.000 Trump just fired 26,000 IRS agents.

01:38:36.000 Yes.

01:38:38.000 It's hard for me to be mad at the man, okay?

01:38:40.000 Now, I want the Epstein stuff released.

01:38:41.000 I don't think he's implicated in it, so I'm not going to...

01:38:47.000 He's not implicating anything just yet, okay?

01:38:49.000 And no, if it turns out he was working with Epstein, I'm going to be like, nah.

01:38:52.000 But here's a challenge.

01:38:55.000 Honest question.

01:38:56.000 In Trump's four years, he's got a couple years left.

01:39:00.000 Let me ask you guys something.

01:39:01.000 Let's say documents are published, and it turns out Trump was working with Epstein, facilitating it financially.

01:39:09.000 Would you still support Trump?

01:39:12.000 No.

01:39:13.000 No, I mean, he'd be in jail.

01:39:15.000 You mean knowingly facilitating Epstein? 0.94

01:39:18.000 He's a pedophile, basically. 0.92

01:39:20.000 No, no. 0.99

01:39:21.000 That's not going to happen.

01:39:22.000 He's a payoff.

01:39:24.000 Agreed.

01:39:25.000 But no one's going to arrest him if he was president and stuff came out.

01:39:27.000 The issue then is it's like your options are corrupt Democrats burn the country to the ground or Epstein Trump is preventing that.

01:39:38.000 And it just seems like wash it all out.

01:39:40.000 I'm done.

01:39:41.000 See you later.

01:39:42.000 That goes back to what I was saying earlier.

01:39:44.000 I'll be in a van down by the river, just give up.

01:39:47.000 No, I feel about it.

01:39:49.000 Focus on your life, the people in your life, a world you can make better around you.

01:39:54.000 Yes, politicians are constantly trying to ruin the world for you, but you can't worry about that 24-7.

01:40:00.000 I would just go live in a van down by the river.

01:40:03.000 That's it.

01:40:05.000 Buy a little plot of land by a river in an area that won't flood, so slightly elevated off the river.

01:40:10.000 Never down by the creek.

01:40:12.000 And then just get, you know, a trailer and stick it in the ground and bring my sleeping bag in here and sing in here.

01:40:12.000 Nope.

01:40:19.000 Buy an island, maybe.

01:40:20.000 Virgin Islands.

01:40:22.000 Maybe have like an Egyptian hut on it.

01:40:24.000 I don't know.

01:40:24.000 Just spitballing, obviously.

01:40:25.000 Yeah, you know?

01:40:26.000 Glamping.

01:40:27.000 Glamping.

01:40:28.000 What?

01:40:28.000 I was just glamping down there.

01:40:30.000 I didn't do anything.

01:40:32.000 All right.

01:40:34.000 What do we go?

01:40:35.000 What do we got?

01:40:35.000 Godzoman says, I think Hillary Clinton went to Trump's wedding.

01:40:38.000 She did.

01:40:39.000 I believe she did.

01:40:40.000 Can you believe that?

01:40:41.000 I would be shocked to find if these documents prove that Trump and Hillary were friends.

01:40:45.000 That's damning.

01:40:45.000 Very damaging to Trump's reputation.

01:40:47.000 That's way worse than that.

01:40:48.000 It's like the video of him, whatever correspondence dinner it was where he roasts Hillary and she laughs along with him.

01:40:54.000 She specifically said.

01:40:55.000 She's a Smith dinner.

01:40:56.000 Yeah.

01:40:57.000 She specifically said, she's like, yeah, I went.

01:40:59.000 Trump's a fun guy.

01:41:02.000 See, that's the buddy comedy I want to see, man.

01:41:05.000 I want to see a movie about Trump and Hillary.

01:41:07.000 You're just so cool.

01:41:08.000 Like, he's so fun to be around.

01:41:09.000 Like, dude.

01:41:10.000 Remember, people only started hating Donald Trump when he got into politics.

01:41:13.000 Like, before then, everybody loved him.

01:41:13.000 Yep.

01:41:17.000 You know?

01:41:17.000 Yeah.

01:41:18.000 Actually, I like the idea that Hillary yells at Bill, like, why can't you be more like Trump? 0.98

01:41:23.000 Well, come on, babe. 1.00

01:41:24.000 Sorry, Hill.

01:41:26.000 Sorry, hell don't.

01:41:27.000 We'll go to the island.

01:41:28.000 I'll make it up.

01:41:30.000 Thank you.

01:41:30.000 It's been working.

01:41:32.000 I would imagine that Bill Clinton probably has charisma similar to Donald Trump because I think most presidents, to become the president, you have to have a lot of charisma.

01:41:44.000 You're asking a lot of people to give you money.

01:41:47.000 Arkansas Riz.

01:41:49.000 It's mildly more lecherous, though.

01:41:51.000 Yeah, it was just kind of like, you know, a little weird.

01:41:53.000 No, in the 90s it wasn't.

01:41:54.000 No, it's lecherous now.

01:41:56.000 It's like him.

01:41:57.000 It's like with the sax.

01:41:58.000 That'd be so tough.

01:41:59.000 I remember as a kid, I was like, he's kind of cool, right?

01:42:02.000 He's on MTV playing.

01:42:04.000 Whose funeral was he at where he was like staring at Ariana Grande and everybody's like, why is he doing that?

01:42:09.000 I have a dog.

01:42:11.000 Because he's Bill Clinton.

01:42:12.000 I don't remember who's.

01:42:13.000 He's like, you must not know him.

01:42:15.000 Yeah.

01:42:15.000 Right.

01:42:16.000 Aretha Franklin.

01:42:17.000 Thank you, Aretha Franklin.

01:42:17.000 Aretha.

01:42:18.000 That tan girl's like she's Mexican or something. 1.00

01:42:24.000 Not anymore.

01:42:25.000 I don't know what she is.

01:42:27.000 Italian.

01:42:28.000 I just know I want her.

01:42:30.000 Oh, God.

01:42:31.000 All right.

01:42:31.000 We got Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:42:32.000 He says the Russia hoax was more than just Trump.

01:42:35.000 It was the globalist destroyers of the West that wanted to stop the U.S. from having strong relations with a prominently white nation with traditional values. 0.78

01:42:42.000 Gee, I wonder who he's talking about.

01:42:47.000 All right.

01:42:48.000 Wyatt Kaldenberg says, how much do you think anti-Zionism plays in making Epstein a never-ending crackpot theory? 0.99

01:42:54.000 If there were a couple of Christian pedos that have two Jewish pedos with ties to Israel, would so many people care about it and make up crap? 0.97

01:43:01.000 I think this is the funny thing about the Israel derangement syndrome, is that if you attach, it's like, if there was a bank and I was like, that's the target guy. 0.99

01:43:11.000 Like, here's my heist movie, okay?

01:43:13.000 Heist movie short film.

01:43:15.000 And the team is like, here's the team.

01:43:18.000 We got a hacker.

01:43:19.000 We got the driver.

01:43:20.000 We got the strongman.

01:43:21.000 We're going to go into this bank and we're going to rob it.

01:43:23.000 What's the plan, man?

01:43:24.000 We're going to accuse the bank of working with Israel. 0.79

01:43:27.000 And then the anti-Israel people are going to storm in and go nuts and smash everything.

01:43:31.000 And we're going to walk out with the money.

01:43:32.000 I think the banks are the only organization where it wouldn't really fire people up.

01:43:39.000 But the previous chatter.

01:43:40.000 I'd be like, what?

01:43:42.000 The previous chatter literally was talking about exactly what I say.

01:43:48.000 There's two groups of people that really care.

01:43:49.000 There's the people that believe that Epstein was involved with Israel and with the Mossad and with CIA.

01:43:54.000 And if Epstein is exposed and all of the information comes out, the American people will say, oh, We have to stop being allies with Israel because Israel's controlling our government.

01:44:03.000 And then there are the people that think that Epstein had a slew of underage kids.

01:44:08.000 And those are the two people that are really passionate about it.

01:44:10.000 Figured it out.

01:44:11.000 Trump literally just needs to come out and say the Epstein files were doctored by Israel.

01:44:16.000 We can't release them because it helps them.

01:44:18.000 I was like, these documents, they were fabricated by Mossad to make Israel look good, so I won't do it.

01:44:18.000 That's better.

01:44:25.000 And then literally the story will flip overnight.

01:44:27.000 Jeffrey Epstein, he was Palestinian.

01:44:31.000 At some point, two weeks it's been in the news.

01:44:35.000 He's like, I'm going to have to bomb Iran again if we don't get this thing out of it.

01:44:38.000 It's his fault it's in the news.

01:44:40.000 It's Trump's fault.

01:44:42.000 Man.

01:44:43.000 Yeah, he's like, what are you guys whining about?

01:44:45.000 That's literally what he's saying.

01:44:46.000 He's like, dude.

01:44:47.000 It's a hoax. 1.00

01:44:47.000 Shut up. 1.00

01:44:48.000 All right. 1.00

01:44:50.000 From north of nowhere.

01:44:51.000 Is that what it says?

01:44:52.000 North to nowhere.

01:44:53.000 Sorry.

01:44:54.000 Van Life Timcast fan here.

01:44:55.000 I die a little inside each time Tim mentions his beefed up camper van that doesn't get used.

01:45:00.000 Shout out my Van Life channel.

01:45:02.000 We are trying to grow from North to Nowhere.

01:45:04.000 That's a good point.

01:45:05.000 Is that still back at the...

01:45:13.000 Clamping.

01:45:14.000 It's got enough energy to effectively.

01:45:17.000 So with the solar panels, it will run indefinitely.

01:45:19.000 So I could turn on, I could hook my computer up to it, plug it in, and it will never run out of power because it generates more from solar than it expends.

01:45:28.000 However, I think you can only do like 10 hours of max AC.

01:45:32.000 AC is insanely draining.

01:45:32.000 Okay.

01:45:34.000 Insanely draining.

01:45:36.000 Yeah.

01:45:37.000 We need to get that over here.

01:45:38.000 Yeah.

01:45:39.000 You got to do a skit where you go over there and somebody's just been sleeping in it the whole time.

01:45:39.000 Do something with it.

01:45:43.000 Ian just sleeps in it for fun.

01:45:43.000 I wouldn't be surprised.

01:45:45.000 I mean, to be honest, it's been sitting literally untouched for, I think, two years.

01:45:49.000 Wow.

01:45:49.000 Probably won't even turn out at this point.

01:45:51.000 Battery's probably cooked.

01:45:52.000 And this happens all the time.

01:45:53.000 It's like, we really need to just move it out and use it and do something with it.

01:45:56.000 I feel like I was walking by the other.

01:45:58.000 I was like, oh, there's a second trailer on the side of the building.

01:46:01.000 There's spawn.

01:46:01.000 Yep.

01:46:03.000 We have two fifth wheel trailers.

01:46:05.000 Again, I was like, I was like, is somebody's like sleeping in there?

01:46:07.000 Why is that thing over there?

01:46:08.000 So the first trailer is basically the clubhouse now.

01:46:14.000 So when we're doing this show and people they want to skate or whatever and they want to hang out, they can do it outside.

01:46:18.000 So they're not being noisy.

01:46:19.000 And the second trailer is it's set up to be another studio space.

01:46:24.000 Nobody wants to use it.

01:46:25.000 So we'll see what happens in the future.

01:46:27.000 But we have them.

01:46:28.000 They're both for mobile shows.

01:46:30.000 And we used them both.

01:46:31.000 And now we have them.

01:46:32.000 And it's like, I don't know, maybe we saw one.

01:46:35.000 The first one was like that first trip to Austin in 2021, right?

01:46:39.000 Alex Jones is.

01:46:39.000 Yeah.

01:46:40.000 Biggest show we ever did.

01:46:40.000 I still remember that.

01:46:41.000 And YouTube deleted it.

01:46:42.000 Yeah.

01:46:42.000 I still have like photos.

01:46:44.000 Joe Rogan and Alex Jones.

01:46:45.000 And then YouTube made up some fake reason to delete it.

01:46:48.000 It was wild.

01:46:48.000 I still have photos of like when that was all getting set up.

01:46:51.000 Yeah, crazy.

01:46:52.000 And that was when Kyle Rittenhouse was found out guilty.

01:46:54.000 Yep. 0.84

01:46:55.000 Crazy.

01:46:56.000 We were hanging out with Alex Jones at his studio.

01:46:59.000 Almost four years ago now.

01:47:00.000 That's crazy, dude.

01:47:02.000 Wow.

01:47:03.000 A long five years.

01:47:04.000 Man.

01:47:05.000 Well, here we go.

01:47:05.000 All right.

01:47:07.000 Let's see.

01:47:08.000 The Adaptive Outdoorsman says, Tim, thank you for your tips on business.

01:47:12.000 Thanks to your tips on business pitfalls.

01:47:14.000 The Adaptive Outdoorsman podcast is now an LLC.

01:47:16.000 Here's to more growth. 0.99

01:47:17.000 Well, shut up, brother. 1.00

01:47:19.000 There you go. 1.00

01:47:20.000 Best of luck.

01:47:22.000 What does this say?

01:47:22.000 All right.

01:47:23.000 I can't read that.

01:47:24.000 Kyle says, baby number three is on the way.

01:47:28.000 On our way to the hospital, welcome baby Scarlet Rose.

01:47:31.000 Cheers, Timcast.

01:47:32.000 More babies.

01:47:33.000 More babies.

01:47:34.000 You know, Luke Rudkowski, I see him in the chat.

01:47:37.000 Smack talking.

01:47:38.000 Where are your babies?

01:47:39.000 Huh?

01:47:40.000 Luke?

01:47:40.000 What's going on?

01:47:42.000 I don't see no baby Luke's.

01:47:44.000 You know what I mean?

01:47:46.000 All right.

01:47:46.000 Where are we at?

01:47:47.000 Zachary Rossfeld says, I think Trump is involved in a way that isn't pedo.

01:47:52.000 That's what I think is why he's against the release, maybe regular prostitution or money laundering.

01:47:58.000 I think, well, they're saying it's unverified hearsay.

01:48:02.000 So when Trump says it's a Democrat hoax, it sounds like Trump's belief is that Democrats intentionally put in a poison pill into the files, making him look bad in some way.

01:48:13.000 They can't be proven, but really bad.

01:48:16.000 And so if they get released, they basically said, if we go down, you're going down with us.

01:48:20.000 And Trump was like, oh, and now he's trying to wash it under the rug.

01:48:24.000 I don't care, man.

01:48:24.000 Reset the whole system.

01:48:26.000 Just release it.

01:48:28.000 And then let the chips fall where they lie.

01:48:30.000 Is that the saying? 0.98

01:48:31.000 I mean, if it was just like regular prostitute, like, would anybody care? 0.99

01:48:34.000 Remember when there was like the, he was getting peed on by Russian prostitutes or something like that? 0.99

01:48:39.000 He literally paid Stormy Daniels to have sex with him. 0.99

01:48:42.000 Yeah.

01:48:42.000 Like that's not going to, nobody's, that's not even going to rate with most people.

01:48:47.000 Luke says going to Smack Talk more now.

01:48:51.000 Well, you know, we always tell Luke to come on the show and then he just never does.

01:48:55.000 He's just, who knows what he's doing down there in Florida.

01:48:58.000 He's probably.

01:48:59.000 He says it's too cold up here.

01:49:02.000 It was 90 degrees.

01:49:04.000 He's not saying that he's right, actually.

01:49:05.000 That's what he says.

01:49:06.000 Is it really?

01:49:07.000 Why?

01:49:07.000 Yeah.

01:49:08.000 It keeps.

01:49:09.000 It's too hot.

01:49:10.000 Yeah.

01:49:10.000 Wow.

01:49:11.000 I think maybe we should just permanently remove it so you don't got to think about it anymore.

01:49:14.000 Just no more.

01:49:16.000 Desk fan for me, man.

01:49:18.000 Yeah, Massey was saying the reason they have the August recess is because historically August was so hot in the swamp.

01:49:24.000 They'd literally be like, just don't come here because of the malaria.

01:49:27.000 Malaria.

01:49:28.000 Yeah, people died.

01:49:29.000 The summer White – there was always – each president had a different summer White House because you would just – Yep.

01:49:40.000 God forbid politicians would have to be uncomfortable.

01:49:43.000 Well, nowadays they have to be aware of that.

01:49:44.000 That's crazy to think.

01:49:45.000 They're wearing like suits in Congress and it's 100 degrees.

01:49:48.000 Wigs. 0.82

01:49:49.000 Yeah.

01:49:50.000 I don't think they actually wore wigs.

01:49:53.000 Oh, yeah.

01:49:54.000 At least in the very early days, yeah.

01:49:56.000 They wore wigs?

01:49:57.000 Yep.

01:49:57.000 Actual wigs.

01:49:58.000 I don't believe that.

01:49:59.000 Is that true?

01:50:00.000 Did Congress ever wear wigs? 0.98

01:50:03.000 Well, they wear wigs in South Africa.

01:50:05.000 Washington did not wear.

01:50:07.000 Only some early members, though, in the late 18th century, short after the nation's founding, wig wearing was it faded very quickly, however.

01:50:14.000 The last guy wearing the wig?

01:50:15.000 It was a British custom.

01:50:17.000 Why did they wear wigs?

01:50:19.000 Like I said, they have it in South Africa and like the judges, everyone still wears these crazy little wigs. 0.98

01:50:23.000 It's like the most ridiculous thing ever. 0.85

01:50:24.000 It's like imagine being the last congressman rolling up with the wiggle. 0.97

01:50:26.000 It's fashion.

01:50:28.000 Dude, what's your name?

01:50:30.000 Go drop it.

01:50:31.000 You guys know where it came from.

01:50:32.000 That's so 1789.

01:50:33.000 They were losing their hair with syphilis.

01:50:36.000 It was syphilis.

01:50:36.000 Oh, really?

01:50:37.000 Yep, they left for French.

01:50:39.000 Louis lost all his hair because of syphilis, and then everyone was like, oh, well, that's en vogue.

01:50:43.000 Now I got to get all my, cut all my hair off and then put on this fake, like, you know, powdered up wig.

01:50:47.000 And it became a fashion statement because of how everyone had syphilis.

01:50:50.000 Syphilis caused patchy hair loss.

01:50:52.000 They would wear wigs.

01:50:52.000 Everybody was crazy.

01:50:53.000 Yep, dang. 0.97

01:50:54.000 And they would drink mercury.

01:50:55.000 Yeah.

01:50:56.000 They're like, this will cure you when they drink it and be like, I'm dying now.

01:51:00.000 Yep.

01:51:01.000 You're walking.

01:51:02.000 Oh, that's crazy.

01:51:03.000 To be fair, though, I imagine that in 100 years, they're going to be like, they used to give people literal poison to cure their disease.

01:51:09.000 Can you believe it?

01:51:11.000 They used to, yeah, it's like chemo.

01:51:13.000 No, but like today, yeah, chemo antibiotics.

01:51:15.000 Yeah.

01:51:15.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:51:16.000 I was actually surprised to read about this because there are a lot of medicines that are fundamental, like are rather rudimentary that, you know, there's like herbs and stuff and there's chemicals in them.

01:51:27.000 And we're like, oh, actually, aspirin is tree bark and you can extract it.

01:51:30.000 But modern antibiotics are extremely arduous and difficult to make.

01:51:38.000 So I was looking up like, how many people do you need to make modern antibiotics, not penicillin?

01:51:45.000 And it's like laboratory conditions that will not exist in the wild.

01:51:49.000 Antibiotics are gone if civilization collapses.

01:51:51.000 And the proper dosage is insane, too.

01:51:54.000 So if you take too much, you die.

01:51:56.000 It's like, it's literal poison.

01:51:57.000 It's crazy.

01:51:58.000 Not an easy thing for humans to have accomplished.

01:52:01.000 I do think it's kind of crazy that they never knew to pour their moonshine on their bullet wounds, though.

01:52:07.000 They were like, you got shot, your leg is gone.

01:52:09.000 And it's like, you're holding moonshine.

01:52:10.000 They probably knew, but it's just, I like moonshine.

01:52:13.000 Why waste?

01:52:14.000 You don't want to waste the moonshine.

01:52:16.000 You just drink the pain away.

01:52:18.000 The leg has to go.

01:52:20.000 Yeah, the leg.

01:52:21.000 You've seen these prices?

01:52:23.000 They're pissed on the economy.

01:52:25.000 Oh, okay.

01:52:26.000 They did.

01:52:27.000 They did know this actually.

01:52:28.000 It was done.

01:52:30.000 They didn't know germ theory, but they knew that moonshine and alcohol themselves actually could prevent loss and everything.

01:52:36.000 And they would.

01:52:37.000 They would pour alcohol sometimes.

01:52:40.000 But they wouldn't use...

01:52:44.000 They weren't sure if the alcohol was actually standard or uniform.

01:52:48.000 They also didn't know that germs existed.

01:52:50.000 They also put leeches on people.

01:52:53.000 They would do vinegar.

01:52:54.000 Wow.

01:52:55.000 Vinegar cures everything.

01:52:57.000 Yeah, they would.

01:52:57.000 Wow, that's amazing.

01:52:59.000 Alcohol was used internally as a sedative.

01:53:03.000 They still do that to this day.

01:53:05.000 Oh, look at this.

01:53:06.000 We're not talking about Tuesday nights.

01:53:08.000 Thanks to figures like Joseph Lister, doctors began to regularly use alcohol, carbolic acid, and sterilizing techniques.

01:53:14.000 Did he invent Listerine?

01:53:16.000 Listerine?

01:53:17.000 Is that really where it comes from?

01:53:18.000 I believe so.

01:53:19.000 Oh, yeah.

01:53:20.000 Are you just saying that because it sounds right?

01:53:21.000 No, no, I think he was one of those guys that sold snake oil back in the day, and they would put their name on it as Lister Ean, like whatever.

01:53:29.000 So, yeah.

01:53:30.000 Fauci Ian.

01:53:34.000 Listerine was developed by Dr. Lawrence in 1879, named after Joseph Lister.

01:53:38.000 Yeah.

01:53:39.000 Wow.

01:53:39.000 Something like that.

01:53:40.000 Would you look at that?

01:53:41.000 For treating dandruff, gonorrhea, and sore throats.

01:53:44.000 Treating three in one.

01:53:46.000 That's all about.

01:53:46.000 A little three in one.

01:53:48.000 Oh, man.

01:53:49.000 They were prevalent problems back then.

01:53:51.000 Yeah, find me one medicine that can do all three.

01:53:54.000 They're all one-trick ponies.

01:53:56.000 Well, I mean, you say that, but like, when you think of all the things that penicillin actually treats, it's like, well, you know.

01:54:02.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:54:03.000 You know?

01:54:05.000 You see all those old ads where it actually says that it'll treat all three, and it's like, weird.

01:54:13.000 All right.

01:54:15.000 Garrett Wards.

01:54:17.000 Garrett D. Wards.

01:54:18.000 The Trump administration is pulling back on the files because it's a continuation of the conspiracy of ObamaGate.

01:54:23.000 Comey's daughter was the prosecutor of the case, and they falsified evidence again.

01:54:29.000 That is an interesting point that it was Comey's daughter that was in charge of that case.

01:54:34.000 And so they may have intentionally loaded up false evidence as a time bomb because the Epstein stuff is true. 0.96

01:54:42.000 They knew they'd get exposed.

01:54:43.000 It's actually rather, rather, I wouldn't even call it that clever.

01:54:47.000 Like probabilistic thing.

01:54:50.000 We talk about how they destroyed evidence.

01:54:51.000 Why wouldn't they fabricate any?

01:54:53.000 Certainly.

01:54:54.000 They would destroy the evidence and then create fake evidence as a time bomb.

01:54:58.000 Maybe that's the challenge.

01:55:00.000 Who knows?

01:55:01.000 Yep, I don't know.

01:55:02.000 Or Trump's in it.

01:55:02.000 Who knows?

01:55:03.000 Whatever.

01:55:03.000 Release him, I guess.

01:55:04.000 Well, the key word is hoax.

01:55:08.000 He always gives us hints.

01:55:10.000 Ah, rigged hoax.

01:55:14.000 You really have to think about that.

01:55:19.000 All right, what do we got here?

01:55:21.000 Our sergeant says, what is this? 0.74

01:55:24.000 M. Effer looks like a French version of Caitlin Jenner, you know, somehow slightly more mannish looking, meanwhile, still expecting the world to go along because we are uncultured swine. 0.97

01:55:33.000 Dang. 0.97

01:55:34.000 Dang.

01:55:35.000 Look, Bridget McCrone does look like a guy. 1.00

01:55:38.000 I mean, that's it.

01:55:40.000 Bridget McCrone looks like a guy with the wig on.

01:55:44.000 I'm not saying she is a guy.

01:55:44.000 Okay?

01:55:47.000 But, you know.

01:55:49.000 What am I supposed to do about it?

01:55:50.000 Maybe.

01:55:53.000 Godzoman says, thanks for your team.

01:55:54.000 It takes a lot of work you do.

01:55:57.000 Appreciate it.

01:55:57.000 Shout out to all the Timcast crew, all of our members.

01:56:00.000 Guys, join our Discord server at Timcast.com.

01:56:02.000 It is not easy to do this every single day.

01:56:06.000 And now with the culture war this Saturday, guys, buy tickets to the culture war.

01:56:10.000 We still – it looks like we're going to have a – it – So it looks like we might have like 80 people on Saturday.

01:56:22.000 With some walk-ins, it might go a little bit more than that.

01:56:25.000 The only problem is we had already sold around the same amount.

01:56:27.000 So I don't even know how many, like what's the Venn diagram of people with their tickets canceled and don't know versus people who bought and people who re-bought.

01:56:35.000 So there's a possibility that we show up.

01:56:39.000 And it's not sold out yet.

01:56:40.000 So that, you know, we're not going to go over capacity, but they screwed everything up.

01:56:44.000 So I just say this.

01:56:45.000 Don't let them win with their tactics and trying to get us canceled.

01:56:47.000 We may have got the venue back and they agreed to let us do the show, but they screwed up all of our ticketing.

01:56:52.000 So guys, DCcomedyLoft.com, go buy tickets.

01:56:56.000 Come to DC.

01:56:56.000 If you're in the area, if you're in PA, if you're in North Carolina or wherever, New York, take the train down, come to the show, come hang out.

01:57:03.000 Because the disruption is disconcerting.

01:57:06.000 The show's going to happen, and it looks like we're going to have a decently packed house as it is.

01:57:11.000 But my concern is that, you know, they screwed up to the point where people don't know if they're going to be coming or not or what's going on.

01:57:19.000 So all I can really say is get your tickets, come down.

01:57:21.000 What happened with the tickets?

01:57:22.000 Luke Rakowski says, in racist Asian voice, she a looka like a man.

01:57:29.000 Where was my invite to this event?

01:57:30.000 Bro, you don't need any of it.

01:57:31.000 You can literally just text me.

01:57:33.000 What are you talking about?

01:57:34.000 You say, I'm going to come.

01:57:35.000 Okay, we'll put you on stage.

01:57:36.000 We have a rotating open seat for any, we're going to bring audience members up.

01:57:40.000 Do you guys want to debate Gavin McGinnis or just, you know, sit next to him and ask him a question?

01:57:44.000 Well, audience members are going to be pulled up.

01:57:47.000 Start of the show.

01:57:47.000 We're going to have everyone put their names in a hat and we're going to draw names to invite people to come debate and have their positions heard.

01:57:54.000 Names in a beanie.

01:57:56.000 Yeah.

01:57:56.000 Sure.

01:57:57.000 Is that what it is?

01:57:58.000 I think that's what I heard somebody say. 0.98

01:57:59.000 That's silly. 0.84

01:58:00.000 But they're probably going to do that. 0.87

01:58:02.000 I wouldn't be surprised.

01:58:03.000 That's weird.

01:58:05.000 Luke, you can literally just come.

01:58:06.000 We're doing three.

01:58:07.000 We have three weeks in a row of big events.

01:58:09.000 The Michael Malice Angry Cops one is I'm pretty sure going to sell out.

01:58:12.000 Considering.

01:58:13.000 So what happened was they canceled the tickets and then immediately all the preferred seats sold out.

01:58:18.000 And I'm like, okay, that's a problem because I think a lot of people had their tickets canceled and didn't know the demand was so high that as soon as they restarted the event, people rushed in and bought tickets again.

01:58:28.000 So that one might get nuts.

01:58:30.000 But Michael Mallis and Angry Cops is going to be the best show ever.

01:58:33.000 Absolutely.

01:58:33.000 It's going to be good.

01:58:34.000 And then Kat Tiff is joining us on August 9th. 0.96

01:58:37.000 That's cool.

01:58:38.000 Yeah, the subject is, is feminism destroying the West?

01:58:41.000 So it's basically going to be like four against one.

01:58:45.000 Yeah, Kyla Turner, the liberal, should be defending feminism. 1.00

01:58:50.000 She's all right.

01:58:50.000 She was good.

01:58:51.000 I'm not a fan.

01:58:52.000 She was relaxed.

01:58:52.000 I'm not a fan.

01:58:53.000 She wasn't like a screeching, irrational, you know, purple-haired, crazy person.

01:58:57.000 I'm not a fan.

01:58:57.000 You're not a fan.

01:58:58.000 You tell her, like, you're acting like your mother, and she gets really, really angry.

01:59:01.000 She usually works with one of them.

01:59:02.000 She was sweeping for Destiny when the sex pest charges came out. 0.99

01:59:06.000 Sweeping?

01:59:07.000 Trying to brush them under the rug.

01:59:08.000 Ah.

01:59:08.000 And trying to cover for him.

01:59:10.000 Well, then we will bring that up at the show and say, this is proof that, you know, feminism isn't such a great thing. 1.00

01:59:17.000 Well, I think part of the reason that, well, the reason that she was is because she's doing a podcast with Destiny or was doing a podcast.

01:59:24.000 And I think that she's not a U.S. citizen.

01:59:26.000 So her actual green card was related to working in the U.S. So she had to make sure that she could stay.

01:59:33.000 And this is just hearsay.

01:59:34.000 This is not actually me saying for sure I know, but I think that part of the reason why she was doing it was because of the fact that she was working with Destiny and it was disingenuous.

01:59:43.000 But anyways.

01:59:44.000 Miles Tyson says, thank you for all you do.

01:59:47.000 Our beloved dog, Athena, was diagnosed with cancer today.

01:59:50.000 We are humbly accepting donations at GiveSendGo at Help Athena fight, keep up the Lord's work.

01:59:55.000 Best of luck.

01:59:55.000 Sorry to hear it, man.

01:59:56.000 I hope everything works out.

02:00:00.000 What does this say?

02:00:01.000 The I don't know what that says.

02:00:04.000 The race Fraser? 0.64

02:00:07.000 It's all bred in circuses.

02:00:08.000 While we continue to be herded into a technocratic, heavily surveilled, feudalistic society.

02:00:15.000 You will live in the pod and you will eat the bugs.

02:00:17.000 Okay?

02:00:18.000 Bugs are cheap.

02:00:20.000 Kieran the meatman says, Tim, the one-hour hot dog song isn't for kids.

02:00:24.000 It is for frat hazing.

02:00:27.000 They tie you up and hang you upside down while playing this song.

02:00:29.000 Now that makes sense.

02:00:31.000 Now that just totally makes sense.

02:00:32.000 That's what all the dislikes are.

02:00:33.000 They're the guys that got hazed.

02:00:34.000 Oh, yeah.

02:00:35.000 I got to get thumbs down.

02:00:36.000 I think this content should be illegal.

02:00:38.000 I'm not joking.

02:00:39.000 I think the one-hour hot dog song should be illegal.

02:00:43.000 What amount of minutes would you be cool with?

02:00:45.000 The song playing one time.

02:00:47.000 The problem is...

02:00:51.000 It's not the only one.

02:00:52.000 There's thousands upon thousands of videos just like this.

02:00:55.000 Of one hour long.

02:00:56.000 Longer than that, three hour long. 0.69

02:00:57.000 And what they do is they put the time stamp, on the thumbnail, it'll say one hour plus, like exclamation point, so that moms will turn the table on, put it in front of their baby, and then leave their baby to be mesmerized and emptyized by psychobabble garbage. 1.00

02:01:11.000 And that's why Jen Alpha can't read. 1.00

02:01:13.000 Or it's me, too.

02:01:16.000 It's like, dude, this is true.

02:01:17.000 It's crazy.

02:01:19.000 He's dancing again. 0.98

02:01:21.000 Frying your brain.

02:01:22.000 See, this guy's making jokes, but he only watched at the end of a show.

02:01:25.000 He didn't watch it for hours upon hours.

02:01:27.000 That's true.

02:01:28.000 I mean, I'd probably get in there just to see if anything changes at any point during.

02:01:32.000 It'd be funny if, like, wait, wait, see the spike right here?

02:01:35.000 Like, what happened?

02:01:37.000 Yeah, why is this the most replayed portion?

02:01:39.000 This is the best part.

02:01:39.000 This is the best.

02:01:40.000 Get up, stretch out, sub on the floor.

02:01:43.000 Hot dog, hot dog, hot diggity dog.

02:01:47.000 So captivating.

02:01:48.000 So this is, I found this because I was trying to figure out why there are so many AI generated hot dog videos, like Spider-Man eating hot dogs and things like this.

02:01:58.000 It's because of this.

02:02:00.000 Yeah, that makes sense.

02:02:01.000 Disney did the hot dog song and they put it up.

02:02:04.000 How old is this video?

02:02:05.000 This is from eight years ago.

02:02:07.000 And so it gets so much play, and parents search hot dog song that people started making anything they could about hot dogs because what happened is after this ends, YouTube will auto-recommend to a baby Spider-Man, you know, having like a bunch of hot dogs jammed down his throat.

02:02:24.000 Every time this song ends, the kids should be redirected to man versus food and like a hot dog eating challenge.

02:02:24.000 That's wrong.

02:02:29.000 That would like train them up right.

02:02:30.000 That'd be nice.

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02:04:56.000 Daily Wire's So the Daily Wire's Michael Knowles has been debanked from Strike, Stripe over a legally binding order.

02:05:07.000 And I don't think anyone has any idea what that means.

02:05:11.000 They just don't like Michael Knowles?

02:05:12.000 I mean, what's not to like?

02:05:14.000 Yeah.

02:05:14.000 He's very friendly.

02:05:15.000 The least controversial.

02:05:16.000 He has very nice skin.

02:05:18.000 He has nice hair.

02:05:19.000 He sells nice things.

02:05:20.000 He looks like this.

02:05:21.000 He has that very clear voice.

02:05:22.000 Looked 30 since he was 15.

02:05:24.000 Yes.

02:05:24.000 He says.

02:05:24.000 He does.

02:05:26.000 This is a pretty weird story.

02:05:27.000 He's got this big, long thread that ultimately ended with Stripes saying that it's a, By way of a follow-up, we can confirm the restrictions placed on your account were not taken unilaterally by Stripe, but were the result of a legally binding order that was issued to us.

02:05:44.000 Dude.

02:05:44.000 To us.

02:05:45.000 How does that fucking happen? 0.99

02:05:47.000 So X? 0.99

02:05:48.000 Did he like quit the Daily Wire?

02:05:51.000 He's trying to I don't know.

02:05:51.000 Right?

02:05:56.000 Well, I mean, apparently it seems like it's personal, as in his own account, not the Daily Wire's account.

02:06:02.000 He does run his own X account, if I understand correctly.

02:06:05.000 Yeah, but I imagine all the revenue is going to the Daily Wire.

02:06:08.000 His X account?

02:06:09.000 Interesting.

02:06:09.000 Yes.

02:06:10.000 I mean, remember the whole fiasco with Brett Cooper's TikTok?

02:06:10.000 Maybe.

02:06:16.000 I feel like, I mean, I know that maybe there's meaningful difference between X and TikTok because of the level of work that goes into video creation as opposed to just typing something on X. That does actually make sense.

02:06:28.000 I feel like X would be likely to be your own.

02:06:31.000 Though I'm sure there's a channel, like a Michael Knowles channel on X that's different from his personal account.

02:06:38.000 I don't think that's the same thing as their TikTok account.

02:06:40.000 How does it work with the cigars?

02:06:41.000 Is that DailyWire?

02:06:44.000 Well, can you send your contract over?

02:06:48.000 It's none of our business.

02:06:49.000 None of our business, but we're going to make it our business.

02:06:51.000 Just being nosy.

02:06:53.000 I mean, like, look, man, I know everyone knows, not everyone knows, but if you don't know, I used to smoke cigarettes.

02:06:58.000 I used to smoke Marlboroughs, and I would kill.

02:07:01.000 Oh, God.

02:07:01.000 What?

02:07:02.000 I would kill for Marlboroughs.

02:07:05.000 And because of that lingering addiction to nicotine, the Mayflower cigars are a very nice treat every once in a while.

02:07:13.000 So that's about all I got to say about, you know, Michael Knowles.

02:07:17.000 He's a nice guy, and he's got nice cigars.

02:07:19.000 Yeah, we just glazed.

02:07:20.000 And nice hair.

02:07:21.000 Nice hair, yeah.

02:07:22.000 But yeah, it doesn't make any sense as to why Stripe wouldn't...

02:07:22.000 Nice hair.

02:07:25.000 And I mean, I don't know.

02:07:27.000 What did they...

02:07:36.000 But a legally binding order is very weird.

02:07:39.000 Yeah.

02:07:40.000 That's a very weird phrasing.

02:07:42.000 Legally binding order?

02:07:44.000 Like a criminal like I can only imagine what legal order could stop a company from it's got to be like a legal restriction.

02:07:52.000 Yeah.

02:07:53.000 Macaron's going after him, too.

02:07:55.000 Yeah, right?

02:07:56.000 I mean, it could be something like a court.

02:07:56.000 Yeah.

02:07:58.000 Like I'm looking at, I just put in legally binding order and see what comes up.

02:08:02.000 And I mean, it could be a court order.

02:08:03.000 It could be from a contract.

02:08:06.000 But it doesn't really give any more, give any insight as to what it could be.

02:08:13.000 Has the Daily Wire said anything?

02:08:16.000 Creepy.

02:08:18.000 The Daily Wire's like, Knowles.

02:08:21.000 I mean, he links to michaelknowls.com and not to the Daily Wire.

02:08:25.000 His jubilee.

02:08:32.000 Yeah.

02:08:33.000 Did Michael Knowles leave the Daily Wire?

02:08:36.000 No, no.

02:08:39.000 He's on the front page.

02:08:40.000 It's just, you know, the only thing that makes sense to me is that the Daily Wire said, hey, that's our money.

02:08:48.000 And he didn't know.

02:08:50.000 I mean, he would have to not know because he was complaining about it.

02:08:53.000 He's like, what?

02:08:54.000 Open.

02:08:55.000 Wow.

02:08:56.000 You know what's more interesting than this?

02:08:59.000 Bridget McCrone being a man.

02:09:00.000 Yeah, honestly.

02:09:01.000 Can we get to the bottom of that?

02:09:02.000 You mean Bridget McCrone being Iron Maiden's mascot?

02:09:05.000 Is that what she is? 0.99

02:09:06.000 Oh, that's what Eddie looks.

02:09:07.000 That's what she looks like.

02:09:08.000 That's what I'm talking about with Eddie.

02:09:09.000 So does that, like, for the case, if there's like, if there's proof needed, does that mean that he slash she just has to send in like a wild pet?

02:09:17.000 Oh, yeah, she does look like Eddie.

02:09:18.000 She really does.

02:09:18.000 Yeah.

02:09:19.000 Is that how it works?

02:09:23.000 I said, like, to prove that she's not a man, does she have to, like, send in proof?

02:09:27.000 See, this is why it's defamatory.

02:09:30.000 Actually, that's kind of insulting to Eddie, bro. 0.99

02:09:32.000 He's a killer, though. 0.90

02:09:34.000 Yeah, but to say, like, you're basically saying he looks like Bridget McCrone. 0.97

02:09:38.000 Yeah.

02:09:38.000 Might hurt his feelings.

02:09:41.000 He seems sensitive.

02:09:43.000 He's an all right guy, you know?

02:09:43.000 Yeah.

02:09:45.000 He is.

02:09:46.000 He's a space traveler, too.

02:09:47.000 He's been everywhere.

02:09:48.000 He was in ancient Egypt.

02:09:49.000 He was crazy for a little while.

02:09:51.000 He went to space.

02:09:53.000 He was a tree for a little while.

02:09:56.000 In the early 90s, he was a tree.

02:09:58.000 I heard that Iron Maidens didn't exist. 1.00

02:10:00.000 Oh, really?

02:10:02.000 Yeah, like the medieval torture devices was just fiction.

02:10:05.000 And everyone saw pictures of, did they really saw people in half.

02:10:07.000 And it's like, no.

02:10:09.000 I think they would draw and quarter people, though.

02:10:12.000 Like, they strap a horse to each limb.

02:10:14.000 Yeah.

02:10:14.000 And that was real.

02:10:15.000 That's pretty cool.

02:10:16.000 Smack them and see where they go.

02:10:18.000 I mean, not your limbs off. 0.87

02:10:19.000 I'm not endorsing it.

02:10:19.000 I disavow, obviously.

02:10:21.000 You don't?

02:10:22.000 Yeah, that'd be cool.

02:10:23.000 This is the uncensored list of names here.

02:10:28.000 This guy gets it.

02:10:29.000 This guy gets it.

02:10:30.000 It'd be funny if they use miniature ponies to do it. 1.00

02:10:33.000 Then it's kind of cute.

02:10:34.000 Oh, you're being dismembered.

02:10:36.000 So this is back to the Michael Knowles stuff.

02:10:38.000 My girlfriend is a very big fan of the Michael Knowles show, and she watches all the time.

02:10:41.000 And apparently, it has something to do with hate speech and hating on groups of people, which likely means his religious criticism of gay people.

02:10:50.000 Stripe didn't.

02:10:52.000 Stripe saying a legally binding order.

02:10:54.000 That is like Stripe has been famously on the side of against cancel culture.

02:11:00.000 Really?

02:11:01.000 Okay.

02:11:01.000 Yeah.

02:11:02.000 I've actually been able to DM with the CEO over issues, and they've been quick to correct any problems.

02:11:07.000 I think we had a problem once, and then they apologized.

02:11:08.000 They were like, that is not correct.

02:11:10.000 That was an error.

02:11:11.000 Don't worry, we got you.

02:11:12.000 And I think the CEO had even met with several high-profile conservative personalities to assure them, like, you will not get shut down for your speech.

02:11:18.000 We won't do that.

02:11:20.000 They're very specific in their answer.

02:11:22.000 Right?

02:11:22.000 Like, it's like a court order told them, shut him down.

02:11:25.000 Yeah.

02:11:26.000 Maybe what is the Daily Wire then?

02:11:28.000 Because the Daily Wire would have the authority to be like, hey, this is our money.

02:11:33.000 But even still, I can't imagine it being all that much.

02:11:36.000 Why wouldn't he just be like, okay, guys, here's the account?

02:11:38.000 Yeah.

02:11:40.000 And I mean, how many people follow Michael Lewis?

02:11:42.000 I know he's a big, he's a big one.

02:11:44.000 1.3 million, I think.

02:11:44.000 1.3 million.

02:11:47.000 Yeah, on X. I just feel like it couldn't be enough money for it to be like a big deal then, you know?

02:11:57.000 This is the point that I was making.

02:11:58.000 How do the Macron's expect to prove actual malice in a culture that insists transgenderism is normal and existed forever? 0.85

02:12:03.000 Actual malice doesn't mean malice.

02:12:05.000 It means you knew what you were saying was not true.

02:12:09.000 But either way, how does one prove that accusing someone of getting a high-quality secret sex chain surgery constituted a reckless disregard of the truth in a culture that insists that transgenderism is real simple, normal, and has been forever? 0.62

02:12:24.000 Being accused of being a tranny can't be defamatory.

02:12:28.000 I'd like them to argue that it is.

02:12:31.000 Yeah.

02:12:32.000 Anyway, shall we go to callers?

02:12:34.000 Sure.

02:12:35.000 Oh, man, this is going to be crazy.

02:12:36.000 I hear the callers tonight are going to be raucous.

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