On today's episode of the show, we discuss the latest in the latest political news, including Missouri AG suing New York, Alvin Bragg suing Donald Trump, and Van Jones saying it's game over for Joe Biden if he cannot perform at a debate. We also discuss the new song, "I Was Gonna Be," by pro-life singer Rachel Holt, and how she came up with the idea for it.
00:00:54.000Donald Trump made big news today when he said he wanted to give green cards to college graduates, and people are really They're debating this one.
00:01:02.000There's a lot of people who are upset.
00:01:28.000I don't want to go too much into it myself, because I'm going to leave it to Rachel to describe this, but this is, it's an anti-abortion song.
00:01:34.000It's a song about protecting life, being in support of life, and you guys should go to song.link slash Rachel.
00:01:43.000You can buy it on Amazon too, but I say buy it on iTunes, because like all the songs we've released, like the songs Tom McDonald released, or the one he did with Ben Shapiro, We want to prove that there's a market for this, that people care about this, and more importantly, whether you care about charting on Billboard or not, it's just, it's kind of funny when the corporate press, which is overly woke, and these institutions are forced to reconcile with the fact that conservative songs, right-wing songs, liberty songs, anti-establishment songs are actually making it up the charts.
00:02:12.000Now I will say, They are trying to change the rules every single day to prevent people like us or Rachel from making it on the charts.
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00:02:45.000We've got a couple guests joining us tonight to talk about this and more.
00:05:46.000Missouri AG sues New York prosecutor Alvin Bragg over Trump hush money case.
00:05:52.000Quote, we have to fight back against a rogue prosecutor who is trying to take a presidential candidate off the campaign trail.
00:05:58.000Attorney General Andrew Bailey tweeted, I will be filing suit against the state of New York for their direct attack on our democratic process through unconstitutional lawfare against President Trump.
00:06:58.000We need red state prosecutors from across the country doing stuff like this.
00:07:04.000It's really egregious to continue to see just the blue states going after conservative pundits and politicians.
00:07:11.000Why do you think that red state AGs don't act?
00:07:15.000I think there's sort of a disconnect going on.
00:07:17.000This is something I was talking to Jack Posobiec about recently.
00:07:20.000There's like this disconnect, this idea that, you know, you have to play by the rules, you have to have very specific principles, and he's always like, power without, you know, principles without power is basically just totally useless, you know what I mean?
00:08:48.000So this morning, we had a very fun conversation on the Culture War podcast over at Tenement Media, and you know, normally we go two hours, but the third hour just went into it.
00:08:57.000Andrew Wilson and I were fiercely debating the prospect of social collapse, decay, Civil War, Civil Strife, etc.
00:09:08.000And I don't know how much was accomplished with the arguments that were made, but the arguments that I usually make are things like this, interstate lawfare and interstate conflict, are indicative of the breakdown of social order.
00:09:21.000I mean, let's do the time travel test.
00:09:25.000If you went back to 2017 and said in 2024, right before the election, Missouri will be suing New York for unconstitutional prosecution of the presidential front runner, accusing them of trying to stop him from being able to win the election through state level criminal action.
00:09:45.000I mean, Trump is guilty, they said, in New York.
00:09:49.000We haven't even had the election yet and we're already getting interstate legal conflict.
00:09:53.000Well, and at the end of the, after the 2020 election, we had interstate legal conflict, but the Supreme Court refused to take it up when Texas teamed up with some other states and sued Pennsylvania because Pennsylvania wasn't following their constitutional, constitutionally written obligations with regard to like, you know, how voting should be conducted.
00:10:13.000And the Supreme Court refused to take that up, which was lame.
00:10:25.000You know, like Andrew Wilson's premise was, he said Biden will get elected, Trump supporters will grumble and do nothing, and Democrats will expand their control, and that will be it.
00:10:36.000And we had Richard Spencer on as well, and he said that he thinks it will be the last election.
00:10:42.000Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of that, and it definitely does feel like we're at this crisis moment, and there are so many clashes that are looming ahead of us.
00:10:53.000But there's also the propensity of human beings to want to be at the end times, to want to imagine that they are at the most essential crux of history.
00:11:03.000So are we at the most essential crux of history?
00:11:11.000I mean, and there's a lot of arguments to be made about whether we should have or should have not been involved in World War I. But as Norm Macdonald put, hey, the good guys have won every war.
00:11:23.000Now his point is, you know, the people who win will declare themselves the good guys.
00:11:27.000But the point is, there's a resolution to a mass conflict when those conflicts happen.
00:11:32.000And at the time, it is the biggest problem.
00:11:34.000You know, if there's a hostage situation, that's the most important thing in the world to that community where it's happening.
00:11:42.000Where it's happening, but nobody notices.
00:11:43.000For example, Darfur is about to explode again.
00:11:46.000And no one's paying any attention to what's going on.
00:11:48.000My point is, for the United States, with lawfare, criminal actions against the frontrunner for the presidency, We are in the most dire time.
00:12:11.000We can entertain the idea that this is the beginning of it becoming normal, and now every four years it is whoever's in power arrests all their political opponents.
00:12:23.000And that leads to something, doesn't it?
00:12:25.000So if the next stage of this collapsing empire is we get 40 years of every four years the dominant power that's arresting as many of their opponents as possible, We see that happen in other nations.
00:12:40.000I think some people feel as though it's justified.
00:12:43.000There are people who feel as though this empire is bad, it's systemically racist and horrible things all the time.
00:12:49.000We should probably see the end of this version of America.
00:12:52.000There are people who don't like the country the way it is or they don't like any of the traditional values or customs that we have.
00:13:01.000Emboldening them to hasten on the chaos, hastening decay actually works to, again, a certain ideological, I would say, progressive faction's advantage.
00:13:11.000I think this is one of the things about being on the moment of end times.
00:14:12.000It seems like, too, as Americans, we have this bubble that we're in that everybody thinks that it's never going to happen to us.
00:14:21.000We look all around the world and we're like, nah, that can't happen here.
00:14:25.000Yeah, because we have built our civilization up so big and so high.
00:14:29.000I was thinking about this during COVID, you know, when we just started watching things start to collapse.
00:14:35.000And it was like, I started to think, like, why isn't it collapsing faster?
00:14:38.000And it's like, oh, because we have built it really big.
00:14:40.000Like, it would take a lot to collapse it.
00:14:44.000Even just the little things, you know, it's a massive cascade effect.
00:14:47.000But we're seeing increased, what, in home foreclosures, you know, it's like harder for people to buy homes, harder for people to stay in their homes.
00:14:54.000And that is such a huge component of what the American Dream is all about.
00:14:58.000You know, like, you can buy a home, you can live there with your family, you can raise a family in a secure and safe place.
00:15:03.000And when that's what's crumbling, I always think for Americans, if you can get dinner on the table, that's what you're going to do, and you're not going to worry about the rest of it.
00:15:11.000But at the point when you don't have a table to put dinner on, then you're going to have trouble.
00:15:15.000So real quick, I do understand, people can hear, the issue is that Carter's mic isn't coming through the headphones.
00:15:22.000No, I was just going to say, yeah, the idea of the American dream everybody talks about is not the same today, especially for young people.
00:15:54.000We have talked about this because I remember when I talked to all of my friends and it became increasingly more common for them to be like, I don't think I want any kids.
00:16:02.000And now I hear my younger sister's friends talking about how kids are inconvenient or whatever else.
00:16:07.000There's obviously a conversation going on about having a family is a burden. I think that you hear that
00:16:14.000Obviously, housing prices are crazy expensive. I think they just hit an all-time high today.
00:16:17.000But there's interest rate. I mean, there are obstacles, but also the idea that you would
00:16:23.000have things that you buy, build, and make better, right?
00:16:27.000You buy a house, you add value to it, you maybe pass it down, you maybe sell it. That helps your
00:16:31.000family, which you have also put time into cultivating.
00:16:33.000These are all part of building blocks of a society.
00:16:37.000And when everyone around you is saying, well, kids are bad for the environment, and you'll never own a house, so don't even think about it.
00:16:42.000And also, probably your job is useless, so quiet, quit that.
00:16:45.000Like, there is no momentum to move forward.
00:16:48.000And again, somebody benefits from that.
00:16:50.000No one just promotes this idea unless they're getting something out of it.
00:16:54.000I do think the idea of the American Dream today, what young people think it is, is wrong.
00:17:01.000The American Dream was getting a job, working really, really hard, and moving up.
00:17:40.000He moved here and had to work his fingers to the bone So that his kids could live better.
00:17:45.000Now it's like the Gen Z and millennial American dream is, I want to be rich off of Instagram and make half a million dollars a year.
00:17:53.000There was this Julia Fox interview where she's like, I mean, nobody likes working.
00:17:59.000I just want to stay home with my snacks and scroll on my phone.
00:18:02.000And like, while it is always nice to take a break, right?
00:18:05.000On the other hand, work gives you purpose, right?
00:18:07.000Having a family gives you purpose, having a religion can give you purpose, and then ultimately that helps you enrich the community around you.
00:18:13.000When we are all just living for ourselves as individuals, you know, in societies where we're treated like our cultures are interchangeable and you can just move wherever in whatever country and it's all exactly the same, you are...
00:19:07.000He gets his muscle definition and he comes out and he's like, let me show you how to do this.
00:19:11.000And he's got the best, fastest technique.
00:19:13.000And the people who scroll on Instagram don't know nothing else.
00:19:16.000Well, and their brains are wired differently.
00:19:17.000They are seeking the dopamine hit of each video, right?
00:19:20.000It's the same thing with, like, iPad kids.
00:19:22.000Like, their brains are wired differently to want to seek out the blue light, to have, you know, different kind of content to entertain them.
00:19:31.000That's what I've always heard and like I've heard parenting experts say don't put your kid in front of a tv until they're three years old because you otherwise you're suppressing a certain amount of like problem solving and creativity you know people get really scared about things and other people like that's totally wrong but ultimately all of these things all of the devices that you have are designed so you are constantly using them they're sucking you back in you know you get a notification the video's faster YouTube's about to end whatever it is and children are particularly vulnerable to this.
00:19:58.000There's an episode of Star Trek, I know everyone's very excited to hear about Star Trek, where they go to a planet where the planet is managed by an AI, and none of the people know how the AI works or what it is.
00:20:10.000Because for generation after generation after generation, the machine has taken care of everything.
00:20:15.000So it's like, I don't know, it's just there, it does its thing.
00:20:18.000And then when it breaks, they're freaking out like, we don't know what it is!
00:20:37.000We're seeing stores close down because shoplifting is going crazy.
00:20:40.000We are seeing planes with engines burst into flames.
00:20:44.000And when they say it's just because it's being reported in the press, I've actually talked to, I shouldn't say talked to, but I've heard from a man, he was telling a bunch of people this story in public, hanging out, saying he used to work for the airlines and they've started doing Removing safety features, like switching out how they used to maintain these planes, and I'm keeping it kind of light.
00:21:05.000And then we saw there was a story about an investigation into counterfeit titanium being used in planes.
00:21:11.000Now we're hearing they're saying that broken parts were being put in planes.
00:21:15.000What's happening is... Yeah, that was crazy, the broken parts thing.
00:21:17.000People don't know how these machines work, don't care to learn how they work, and the companies that are hiring people are going further and further down the merit ladder to find people based on race and identity instead.
00:21:30.000And so we are going to end up as a society where sooner or later people are just like, Brondo's got what plants crave, so we're gonna pour Gatorade on our crops, and then the crops die, and they're like, why'd that happen?
00:21:41.000I look at that with my house, and there's like a broken thing on my porch, and I was like, I need to get someone to fix that, and I was like, no, you gotta figure out how to fix that.
00:21:51.000So now I'm figuring out how to fix the broken thing on my porch.
00:21:54.000Well, I think sometimes it comes down to just old-fashioned work ethic sometimes too.
00:22:00.000Like when we first, well I'll just go back to Rachel, when we first started talking to Rachel, you know, we see a lot of people, we see a lot of artists come in, but Rachel, her dad told me this story.
00:22:16.000I don't even know if you know that he told me this, but you know, she at 16, Rachel, I mean, had her own band, was out playing, you know, was out playing places, making what most people, more than what most people make at a job when she was 16 to 17 years old, doing it herself, getting her own band together.
00:22:58.000So if you get a kid who grows up and they see someone play a song, get paid either tips or sell a CD, they're learning how you do that and they will imitate that.
00:23:09.000So it's not so much like going to someone saying, here's how you do it.
00:23:11.000It's just in modern society, parents are putting their kids in front of iPads, TVs before that, computer screens.
00:23:18.000And so the kids aren't actually watching how functioning adults build networks, build machines, generate value, build wealth and survive.
00:23:26.000This next generation growing up, it's going to be wild how many people are- already they are, but we're going to start seeing just how incapable they are of basic tasks.
00:23:37.000Yeah, I think the environment makes a big difference because we used to have cultures that had kids around people of multiple ages, right?
00:23:44.000Whether it's slightly older children, maybe siblings that are 10 years older than you, young adults, parents, families were bigger, and everyone
00:23:51.000learns to model behavior that they see.
00:23:54.000Obviously, that could be problematic if you have a family that's maybe dysfunctional,
00:23:56.000but also if you have an ambitious cousin who's slightly older than you, you are learning
00:24:01.000If your parents are doing daily tasks in a certain way, you're observing it.
00:24:04.000But now we have kids, you know, in school for a large amount of the day, so their parents
00:24:09.000can both work different jobs in different places, totally separate.
00:24:11.000Kids are with kids of their own age and they kind of only socialize in that very, very insular environment with maybe a teacher who they have around but doesn't necessarily model social behavior always.
00:24:24.000It's a challenge that we have created and also will not give up.
00:24:28.000I do want to give a shout out to Reven's Padawan Superchat.
00:24:30.000He said, Tim, the Star Trek episode with the AI isn't applicable able as the episode with the hypnotic game.
00:24:38.000Another episode... Yeah, that's a really good game too.
00:24:40.000I was thinking about that game the other day.
00:24:44.000There's this headset that people get, and it's an augmented reality game.
00:24:48.000And this is a show from 89, by the way, 1989.
00:24:51.000And so it's early 90s when this episode comes out.
00:24:53.000You put the headset on, and you can see a game where you're trying to throw a disc into a hole, and then it triggers a dopamine release that makes you high.
00:25:02.000In the show, the actual story is that it's used to mind control you.
00:25:06.000But it's amazing how they nailed that well before, I mean, I think this came out at the same time as Super Nintendo.
00:25:12.000They didn't realize we were actually going to have Apple Vision Pro glued to our heads and we were going to have people wanting the Neuralink to go into the Matrix.
00:25:33.000Because it's designed to make you want to scroll endlessly forever.
00:25:36.000The other thing too about it is like, it's sort of, when you spend all your time online and doing social media, it's like your life is just good enough so that you don't question it.
00:25:58.000It's sad that 200 years ago, A woman would walk into the barn and churn butter and be very happy and satisfied, and the man would go out and chop wood and then be like, oh, I got a little extra done.
00:26:42.000They have to make half a million dollars.
00:26:44.000That's actually, that's the millennial number where they say, in order to be happy, they need half a million dollars a year, and they gotta be influencers.
00:27:08.000Yeah, sometimes I think influencer culture, again because we're a less religious society, means that for a lot of people that's the only way to feel valued, right?
00:27:18.000That's the only way to feel like you have any kind of moral platform, that people will remember you.
00:27:22.000There's sort of this race to be a part of something and to be seen by so many people so that you stay relevant.
00:27:27.000Whereas, you know, when we lived in a less mobile society, meaning people didn't travel the way we could, we didn't necessarily see as many faces because social media wasn't around, To be important in your community, you'd have to actually go out and do things and be engaged.
00:27:41.000I know there are a lot of influencers who have careers and things that they're passionate about, but the fact that so many young people say that's their number one goal, I don't think it's about, oh, I really love doing this.
00:27:52.000It's about filling a hole that they have because they're sort of looking for meaning in a world where they feel like they're going to be forgotten.
00:28:01.000Yeah, there isn't a lot of meaning because people don't know where to find it.
00:30:20.000So there can be fire inside spaceships where there's oxygen and the chemical reaction can happen with a fuel source of some sort, but they had a scene where, like, they're in space and the woman steps out and the engine's on fire and it's crackling.
00:30:32.000You're just being a man using science to oppress women's creativity and I think that... The comment was, this is what happens when you get rid of mansplaining.
00:31:08.000She said, I love President Trump, but I don't agree that you can get a green card if you graduate from an American college.
00:31:13.000Millions of illegals here in America are on overstayed visas and green cards.
00:31:16.000She goes on to say... I'm just loading.
00:31:19.000Giving green cards to college graduates from foreign nations is a policy that the base opposes.
00:31:23.000How can we trust that any vetting of foreigners on campuses would be done adequately when vetting in other areas like personnel has failed?
00:31:30.000It's no shocker that billionaires and big tech approve of importing immigrants to fulfill jobs in tech.
00:31:34.000I'm sure that big tech billionaires think the Indians in the call centers who handle our customer service and don't speak English are brilliant too.
00:31:42.000These foreigners just take jobs away from Americans.
00:31:44.000It's also why Big Tech was able to get away with stealing the election in 2020, as I wrote about in my book.
00:31:49.000She goes on to mention that many of the employees at Big Tech are foreigners, as Big Tech is no friend to MAGA.
00:31:55.000No more visas till every single illegal alien is deported.
00:31:57.000I gotta tell you, when Laura Loomer comes out in disagreement with Trump, that's a policy Trump... I mean, she is the tip of the spear for Trump's base.
00:32:11.000But let's argue it, and we'll get into the nuance.
00:32:15.000Well, I don't agree with it, but if you guys want to stay, you're welcome.
00:32:19.000I mean, I think in large part, Laura's right.
00:32:21.000I think the policy of saying that if you come to America, you know, great, get your education and we'll also let you stay here is harmful to both America and to the countries that students are coming from.
00:32:32.000If you have a student that is looking to be ambitious, to get an education, and to potentially
00:32:37.000develop skills in a career, I think it's also important that we don't siphon off the potential
00:32:41.000middle class of a country that could then fall into economic collapse and become more
00:33:13.000I also agree that ultimately it's very easy to stay in America on an expired visa.
00:33:18.000I think we should move towards a net zero migration policy and so it's hard for me to sign off on a green card policy when ultimately we have unchecked immigration.
00:33:28.000I think we have to address illegal immigration first but we have to address the fact that The question is how many?
00:34:31.000Because then the goal is you make it extremely, extremely difficult.
00:34:34.000You hit up Japan, India, Russia, any country, and say, only the top 10 of your country will ever be allowed an American university, and then we get their best scientists, we get the best of their researchers, and then they can come here, come to our colleges, it would represent .0001% of our education base, but then we don't have to compete with people when they want to be here, we basically buy them out.
00:35:01.000But what if the top 10% just come here and, you know, end up in woke indoctrination centers and then we just end up with a bunch of woke immigrants with green cards and a lot of UBI?
00:35:13.000And that's another issue that doesn't actually argue Trump's point.
00:35:17.000So when Trump says this, and he says, I actually think we should give green cards with college degrees, my thought was that statement alone isn't enough for me to say Trump is wrong because it's too vague.
00:35:33.000Because a lot of institutions in America, especially smaller private universities, need a certain amount of foreign students who can pay complete full cash tuition, they don't have to offer financial aid to, to be able to stay alive.
00:35:44.000You've seen so many colleges shutter over the last couple years.
00:35:47.000This also happens with private high schools too.
00:35:49.000But you'll see, towards the end when there's a financial problem, you'll see the increase in the enrollment of foreign students, in large part because they are relying on them for money.
00:36:30.000We secure our borders, we bring our jobs back, and then we brain drain our adversaries across the world, so if they want the flying car, we're the only one who makes it.
00:36:38.000The better America becomes, the more the smartest people from insert country want to be here instead, and that will make it impossible for anyone to compete.
00:36:46.000They'll have to come here, and then we get it.
00:37:37.000And limits on chain migration, like it can work if basically what we're saying is we don't want to give a dude who's going to invent the next like the flying car, we don't want to give that away.
00:37:47.000My thing is just our immigration system is really broken and so I don't think we should promise potential path to citizenship towards or permanent residency, whatever.
00:37:55.000But if you get permanent residency then you can move on.
00:37:58.000I mean ultimately there are all kinds of doors open when you have the green card.
00:38:01.000But I just don't think that we should open this door until we have sealed the windows and you know shored up our foundation so to speak.
00:38:09.000I think we have enough issues and I don't know that it would even benefit people who come here on a green card if we continue to have a country that's going into crisis because we cannot keep track Did you guys see how Alvin Bragg, who prosecuted Trump for 34 times of invoices and checks, he dropped all charges against all the agitators at Columbia who broke in and did graffiti and were violent and all that stuff.
00:38:34.000Because the system is completely broken.
00:38:35.000Yeah, it's completely broken, which is why I don't think there should be any kind of promises, regardless of how many caveats we could come up with.
00:38:41.000I gotta just go back to what we were talking about a little moment ago because, you know, I had this big debate on The Culture War about social order decay and breakdown and I'm just like, for the life of me, I cannot grasp how someone could be aware of what's going on in this country over the past ten years and think we are not on a crash course with collapse.
00:39:00.000Because you go back eight years and The things I was saying, people were like, you're crazy.
00:39:07.000I'm like, I read an article that says civil war is possible in the United States.
00:39:59.000It basically says, yeah, can you use, you know, the congressional obstruction thing against protesters?
00:40:05.000And if they just issued their ruling on presidential immunity and obstruction, we would actually be able to move forward quite... We can't.
00:40:13.000And it's going to be what, we have decision days, what, Wednesday and Thursday next week?
00:40:17.000Yeah, it's going to be an October surprise or something.
00:40:18.000But looking at all this, I think it'll come next week, because the term ends next week, but I bet it'll be Thursday, you know, the wait as long as we can.
00:40:48.000The going again on the Chevron case is interesting.
00:40:51.000So I don't see how when you look at all of this over the past eight years, where it's just escalated nonstop to the point where we're now looking at the man who is the frontrunner to win, the favorite in the polls, the favorite in the fundraising, the celebrity superstar is facing prison time in numerous jurisdictions at the federal level and the state level.
00:41:11.000And people are saying, no, no, everything's fine and this is normal.
00:41:15.000I'm just like, man, at a certain point you have to be like, something weird is happening to this country.
00:42:10.000But that, you know, you used to be able to do that.
00:42:12.000You know, my grandfather would be of one opinion, my mom would have a different opinion.
00:42:17.000They would argue and then we'd have dinner.
00:42:19.000And now it's like if you disagree with your parents, you're supposed to go no contact and never speak to them again.
00:42:24.000If your best friend is like, you know, dating a Republican, you're not supposed to talk to her and you're supposed to tell her to break up with that guy.
00:42:31.000You know, there's like all of this kind of stuff that's very different from when I was a kid.
00:42:35.000There's also this thing where we used to have cultural similarities.
00:42:40.000When I was a kid, we'd all watch the same shows on Thursday night.
00:42:45.000Like it was the Cosby show. We all watched the Cosby show, you know, like come into school.
00:42:49.000Everyone had watched the same thing. You'd all talk about, you know, what did you guys have for
00:42:53.000dinner last night? Because for the most part, we all sat there at a dinner table with whatever was
00:42:59.000left of our families and like ate together. You know what I mean? And that kind of stuff is very
00:43:04.000different. And I think that there's a lot more cultural fragmentation. So there's a lot of things
00:43:17.000It's amazing to think that, you know, you can't compromise with your friend who thinks about anything differently than you politically.
00:43:23.000We talked at a poll somewhat recently.
00:43:26.000Back in the day, parents, if you were Catholic or religious or whatever, you would rather have your child marry someone of a different political party than of a different religion, and now that's not the case at all?
00:43:37.000Well, now there's no religion, and we also have a weird homogenization, right?
00:43:40.000It used to be that if you went to different parts of the country, people had different accents.
00:45:12.000I feel like, um, it hasn't been the media, do you think in the legacy media in the form of like, Like, clinging to the last, you know, their death now is like, we put Trump on trial, we've done all these things, and they're kind of, are they using this, like, political stuff as, like, a way to keep people watching?
00:45:31.000And also, is that stuff making people hyper-polarized?
00:45:36.000So I think it's a combination of factors, one of which is, you know, a lot of people think MSNBC, for instance, is intentionally just Democrat.
00:45:47.000But not it is, but it is in that they started looking at their viewership.
00:46:07.000They were sitting in a big old, well, I'll keep it family friendly, they were sitting around a table patting each other on the back about how good they were and how awesome the story was and everybody wanted to watch.
00:46:19.000Trump gave them this endless cycle where they're thinking like, wow, we're getting ratings, we're making money, keep going, keep going, keep... But you can't keep going.
00:46:52.000What if he's a misogynist and a racist?
00:46:54.000What if he's a rapist because of some random thing in Bergdorf Goodman with an unspecified name?
00:47:00.000Well before that, that's the politics and the lawfare of it.
00:47:03.000What I'm saying is in the media, in order to keep writing the same thing that's A-B tested pot, it's proven it's going to get hits, they can't run the same story twice, so they keep adding to it.
00:47:15.000And Trump said a racist thing, turns into Trump is a racist, turns in he's the most racist guy we've ever seen, too.
00:47:20.000I can't believe our president is racist.
00:47:40.000The media in Jackson and Jackson keeps upping the dosage until finally people go numb.
00:47:45.000And they just OD on Donald Trump as Hitler, and it doesn't work anymore.
00:47:49.000It reminds me of when you have a show that you like, the first couple seasons are good, and then by the seventh season it's just off the rails.
00:47:55.000Every character's plot, like, character arc is totally messed up, and everyone's interdated, it's very horrible, and whatever.
00:48:02.000Like, it went so far that they kind of ran out of scene, but they cannot end the show.
00:49:08.000He's the principal, he lives with his mom, and then one day they were like, let's just make it like he's a different guy, I guess?
00:49:13.000It's like, we got nothing left to write about.
00:49:16.000Grandpa Simpson is gay, and Bart hates feminists.
00:49:20.000The opposite of this is Law & Order SVU, which I think is on season 45, if I'm not mistaken?
00:49:24.000It's been on for so long, but also now you can predict everything they're gonna say, right?
00:49:29.000Do you know why SVU, all of them, have been able to last so long?
00:49:32.000Because they're just based off of criminal records.
00:49:34.000You don't need writers to be like, what did he do now?
00:49:37.000When you can just be like, pull up the records, let's get a story.
00:49:39.000Yeah, but now, back in the day, you know, all kinds of different plot points, maybe it was kind of crazy, maybe not super accurate law enforcement, but now I bet every time you watch the show, you know exactly who's gonna be the criminal because it has gotten so woke.
00:49:50.000Like, it's adopted the plot points that everyone else has.
00:50:29.000But the bad guy is this white, stodgy, academic guy with glasses, and he grooms a mass shooter by telling him he's gotta be a man, and he hates women, and women are bad.
00:50:38.000He tells him, this is your red pill moment.
00:50:41.000He tells them to go on 4chan, and it's like... I wonder who that writing room is voting for.
00:50:47.000And then, uh, I mentioned this in the Culture War, it was really funny.
00:50:50.000The episode I'm watching, because there's four seasons of it, on season three, one of the main characters is a woman, she has four kids, and she's telling her daughters, like, basically saying, don't lie to me.
00:50:59.000So she's like, I'm gonna write down the ten commandments of the family, and commandment number one is, thou shalt not lie to mom.
00:51:04.000And then one girl goes, can we lie to other people?
00:51:45.000And they presented this like, this is a serious, you know, psychoanalytical show.
00:51:48.000Well, that's like the Acolyte star who put out her little diss track on Instagram was talking about how she wasn't going to let herself be one of the people that gets sick from being oppressed.
00:52:42.000That was the point of Critical Race Theory, and that was the point of Woke.
00:52:45.000The entire point was to demand that everyone wear racism-colored glasses so that you see racism and oppression every single place that you look.
00:52:55.000Wealthy American liberals with moderate to high incomes in big cities complaining that they're being oppressed.
00:53:02.000And then they make the argument, they actually make the argument, that Oprah Winfrey is more oppressed than a white homeless veteran begging for change.
00:53:10.000Well, she's oppressed by the diet industry because she has always felt so bad about her weight and it's always been such a, you know, such a noose around the neck for her, like an albatross.
00:53:38.000And I was sort of thinking like, no, I don't think that you are having the same problems
00:53:43.000as like people who live in major cities that cannot accommodate,
00:53:46.000that are dependent on subway transportation, like New York City.
00:53:49.000but there are very few elevator shafts where you can get your wheelchair down.
00:53:53.000I don't think you're on their level of needing the society to pay attention to something that might make you able to live there.
00:54:01.000Yours is maybe somewhat self-inflicted, I would argue, but who knows.
00:54:04.000You were saying something earlier, too, about how people are kind of addicted to attention online.
00:54:12.000Do you think that's feeding into it as well, as far as the political stuff?
00:54:16.000Because, like you said, if you say something about Trump, You know you're going to get more views if you say something that this is oppressive when everybody knows it isn't.
00:54:30.000It's going to get more views and it all kind of goes into the same tank if you think about it.
00:54:35.000It's going into the attention Also, Trump broke everybody, right?
00:54:41.000I remember it was like the day after the election and I was in like a fairway market, which is woker than Whole Foods in Brooklyn, and people were crying, you know?
00:54:53.000And you know how the music plays at the grocery store?
00:54:55.000So Sweet Home Alabama was playing and this older white lady walks up to a staff person who like had a hijab on or something and was like, don't you think this is in poor taste?
00:55:15.000I think it's funny because I read a story about how Ray Bradbury was giving a college lecture or something and they were talking about Fahrenheit 451 and the question of like...
00:55:26.000And when he explained that it's about how when everyone is offended, the censors have to censor everything, the students argued with him saying, no, it's about government censorship.
00:57:38.000They find ways to say that the Abraham Accords were bad, you know, even though that was like a really major peace agreement in a place where there's now war.
00:57:46.000Do you think it makes people more emboldened to speak positively about Trump or other, you know, conservative figures they admire?
00:57:58.000I grew up in Connecticut and I was always conservative.
00:58:00.000You know, I've been this way for a long time, I guess.
00:58:03.000And it was something that I kind of, you always teeter on the edge of, especially when you're young and, you know, in school and you're trying to navigate that and be like, I don't, I don't know if I'm trying to start conflict all the time, but also that, Was a very different culture than if the media is up against you all the time, all of your co-workers are against you, you know what I mean?
00:58:22.000Like people withdraw from talking about it or do they talk about it more?
00:58:26.000I think it really depends on the person.
00:58:27.000I think some people will talk about it more where other people will just be like, I'm going to keep that to myself or maybe stop having opinions.
00:58:37.000We were talking about that before the show because your song came out and you had people that you know from your hometown who were like, what were they saying?
00:58:45.000You were telling me that they were like offended that you released the song.
00:58:50.000It was just like, we shouldn't care what she thinks.
00:58:57.000Just like people that you wouldn't like suspect to say such things like, They can have their own opinion, but the second that I do, it's terrible.
00:59:09.000Yeah, I mean, that's the kind of thing that happens when you put yourself out there and you take a chance.
00:59:13.000You're always going to have people who are just instantly instant detractors and saying that you shouldn't have a right to like, you know, speak your mind or make the artwork that you want to make.
00:59:22.000And if they disgrace you on one issue, everything about your character is bad.
00:59:26.000Yeah, they judge your whole character based on one thing you believe in.
00:59:29.000Like back then, like you were talking earlier, it never used to be like that.
00:59:32.000Like, a Democrat could be married to a Republican and they talk about it at dinner and it would be over with.
00:59:38.000But now it's like, like some people commenting on my song, it was just like, I completely don't like her character anymore just because of that and they don't know me.
00:59:46.000Just because you wrote a song defending the unborn.
00:59:49.000Right, me and Chris were talking about this before the show, but like it used to be you just wrote songs and released them and that was called art.
00:59:57.000Yeah, we were saying that it was, you know, when an artist actually would put out a song that just reflected who they were as a person and who they were as an artist, that was just called an artist.
01:01:33.000Yeah, and I think as conservatives, you know, we're more of the, you know, let me do you, you know, let me do me and you do you and let's go on with it, you know.
01:01:44.000But I think on the other side sometimes, like just for instance, I was doing this show, it's been a few years ago, and I was waiting in the back of the show, you know, in the green room and there was other people who worked there.
01:02:03.000But there was this people getting married and there was at this booth and I was just tuning up and it wasn't my show I was actually asked to be on the show so it wasn't my thing anyway so This girl was being married.
01:02:18.000She goes, didn't you get something online to be a preacher?
01:03:26.000But he had no idea how deep that went with me.
01:03:31.000Do you think it's because he was around a lot of people who were like, yeah, most Republicans are bad, so he felt like it was a socially normal thing to say?
01:03:37.000Yeah, and I think that that happens a lot.
01:03:40.000On the left, you're more emboldened because you're surrounded by people who you have to think like that.
01:04:55.000I mean, a lot of things changed, too, when you had the progressive left really embrace Obama, because what you had was a political movement that had been anti-authoritarian suddenly finding a leader who they rallied around.
01:05:12.000And so then they were like, oh, now we adore the president.
01:05:15.000We love the establishment, love everything that he's telling us to do, and so now we're going to do it.
01:05:20.000So the group of people who had been saying their whole time, you know, the boomers and the hippies and whatever, question authority, changed their minds and said, you know, embrace authority.
01:05:32.000And the Obama administration really You know, really grabbed power, grabbed power that way, grabbed power over people, not even necessarily just institutionally, but power over people.
01:05:44.000And so then when Trump came in, it was such a betrayal because these were the people who wanted to love the White House.
01:05:49.000They wanted to love the, you know, leader.
01:05:52.000And suddenly they couldn't love the leader.
01:06:23.000Indicative of the herd mentality that so many of the institutions in America right now want people to rely on.
01:06:30.000They don't want you to think critically about like, oh, well, I like this policy from this one guy, but, you know, on the other side of the aisle, this guy's policy is pretty good, you know, because it's much easier for them to work.
01:06:40.000Everyone says, oh, bipartisanship and we need the bipartisanship.
01:06:43.000They want their party to be completely in power and every single one of their bills to pass with no help from the other side because it's easier for them.
01:06:51.000They want—Democrats want one token Republican like Adam Kinzinger or Liz Cheney so they can call it a bipartisan bill.
01:09:05.000And I think ultimately this is the real issue which is like no one wants to be like, we made a mistake, we went too far on that one because they have built this narrative that electing Trump for a second term would be the end of the nation as we know it and no one's lives would get better and they have to keep that door closed to keep anything that they have said in the last decade legitimate.
01:09:43.000Look, they're liars and illogical, but we still have to deal with them because they're there.
01:09:47.000They think like, you know, 12 year old girls should be able to get abortions without telling anybody about it or, you know, without telling their parents.
01:09:55.000They think illegal immigrants should just be able to hang out in the country until their court date when they won't be able to find them or deport them anyway.
01:10:03.000I thought they gave them phones though so they'd get hold of them.
01:10:05.000Yeah, but you know what's been going on is people are ditching these phones so that they can't be tracked.
01:13:36.000And, you know, it's like reverse brain drain, which I think is great.
01:13:39.000I mean, I would love to see South America really, you know, have a whole bunch of buffalo, wild wings.
01:13:46.000If asylum was really like, hey, your country's going through a rough time and eventually, you know, in two years we could relocate you back, you need a safe space now, I would maybe possibly consider being open to it.
01:13:56.000But the way asylum works right now is like, let's bring in a lot of people under asylum who are just staying here.
01:14:01.000Who are not actually qualified for asylum.
01:14:04.000Immigration attorneys will tell you is once they get to the court date, turns out that, you know, those who actually end up in court are not qualified.
01:14:11.000And also everything remains chaotic abroad.
01:14:15.000And then we were like, bye, we got it.
01:14:16.000We got to be involved there and probably send some money.
01:14:18.000And maybe we should send some secret troops there.
01:14:20.000And, you know, it's just what point are we saying?
01:14:23.000Don't we have guys in Ukraine now, basically?
01:14:26.000I mean, we have 3,000 people in Jordan.
01:17:12.000I want to jump to one last story before we get to the music and everything, because this one I just found really funny.
01:17:16.000From Mediaite Plus, AOC hits back at neo-Nazi Nick Fuentes after he praises her claim that Democrats only support Israel out of fear of AIPAC.
01:17:27.000Okay, well, what actually happened is really funny.
01:17:29.000Nick Fuentes tweeted, okay, we got to start at the beginning.
01:17:33.000Also, I also don't believe that Nick Fuentes is a neo-Nazi.
01:17:37.000I believe they're just attacking him over that.
01:17:39.000He's an America First, anti-Israel personality.
01:17:42.000I think that's, you can just call him what he is.
01:17:43.000So, AOC tweets, an unspoken secret in Congress is that much of the reflexive, blind, unconditional vote support for nearly any Israeli government action isn't from actual agreement, it's from fear.
01:17:54.000Reps are terrified of this, of AIPAC, so they don't vote their conscience, they vote their fear.
01:17:59.000Fuentes says AOC is more America First than 99% of Republicans.
01:18:04.000You cannot deny Nick Fuentes complimented AOC over her position on Israel.
01:18:09.000We have even had people who have superchatted to us that they would vote for Joe Biden if Joe Biden came out opposed to Israel.
01:18:15.000That is how many of these people feel when it comes to Israel.
01:18:18.000But being called America First is not a compliment for AOC.
01:18:20.000She said, you are a white supremacist and I want nothing to do with you nor the world you imagine.
01:18:25.000I believe in a multiracial democracy, one of economic rights, civil liberties, and that affirms the working class and the rights of women and LGBTQ people.
01:18:31.000These are not small differences, they are irreconcilable.
01:18:34.000White supremacy is a scourge and must be disavowed in all places.
01:18:38.000What's really funny is, all Nick said was that she was right.
01:18:54.000So she's not comfortable being supported by someone that, you know, she perceives of in these terms.
01:19:00.000Yeah, I'm going to reference Gilmore Girls here, but she says, get off my side.
01:19:03.000Like, I don't want you to be the person supporting me because I Think that you will make me look less appealing to my own voters regardless of what the statement is, right?
01:19:13.000She opted to respond because one, she thinks dunking on Nick will, I don't know if you can call this a dunk, but like responding to Nick like this will make her seem even more like this wonderful person.
01:19:22.000She's gonna, you know, talk down to this terrible, terrible guy from the internet.
01:19:28.000She could have let it just roll off her.
01:19:30.000Instead, she is so afraid to be associated with him that she has to respond like in hysterics.
01:19:34.000She gave her virtue signal bona fides, but it won't matter because she criticized Israel, and she will continue, and Fuentes will praise her for doing so.
01:19:43.000Look, Fuentes has his views, and AOC criticizing Israel and AIPAC aligns with what Fuentes, his worldview, and America First individuals, Groebers or otherwise, are not afraid of being aligned with AOC.
01:19:57.000AOC is terrified of being aligned with Nick Fuentes, however, because they are tribalists who care more about what their tribe thinks of them than what they actually are concerned with politically.
01:20:08.000Well, and this also speaks to what we were talking about before, where it used to be that you could share some views with a person and not others, and now it's like if you don't subscribe to a person's entire program, you don't want anything to do with them.
01:20:21.000You don't even, you know, you don't even want to Share a tweet with them.
01:20:24.000She probably reported him to X for harassment.
01:20:26.000She was like, this is bullying, he has to get away from me, I'm not associated with this.
01:20:34.000This is probably an emergency meeting for her staff, right, while they all sat there and drafted this, and she was like, we cannot let this down.
01:20:40.000There were tears, there was like, scarrow down the face.
01:20:43.000This is why there's a lot of people who claim Fuentes is a fed, which I don't think is true, but it's because the positions that he take to any marketing person Okay, you go to anybody who works in marketing and they're going to be like, well, if you were trying to hurt your cause, do what Nick is doing.
01:21:00.000Coming out and saying this about AOC puts AOC in panic mode.
01:21:05.000If Nick's real plan was to harm the democratic position, you would do exactly that.
01:21:13.000The idea of coming out and saying... So, like, one of the criticisms is that he calls himself America First.
01:21:19.000That's the name of, like, his group, his conference.
01:21:25.000It means America spends money on itself, it doesn't go to foreign wars, it takes care of its own borders before dealing with anyone else around the world.
01:21:32.000Then Nick Fuentes gets up on stage, you know, figuratively, and he yells, independence from Israel.
01:21:39.000And instantly now, the idea of supporting America is now attached to the brand that is just Israel bad.
01:21:47.000Well, there are a lot of people in America who don't really care all that much about Israel, and they care about America, but what Fuentes does merges the PR campaign.
01:21:55.000Again, not saying it's intentional, but it's fairly obvious this is detrimental to the efforts of protecting America.
01:22:19.000And I mean, it works for Nick to be able to point out, like, hey, this is actually an American first position because any one of her supporters that was like, I believe in this, you know, I think they'll probably panic and freak out.
01:22:29.000But there might be someone who is like, oh, is that what America first means?
01:23:57.000No, I think that this is all sort of a similar thing, like bringing up Melania and the fact that these designers are like, I can't be associated with you because your husband is terrible!
01:24:08.000Even though, actually, if they had stayed private citizens, they would have begged to dress her, right?
01:24:17.000I think this is something Americans get tired of, though, this sin by association.
01:24:23.000I think people start to say, like, it's too complicated and everybody is a target at all times, and I just want to be able to move forward with my life.
01:24:30.000We were opposed to it at our founding.
01:24:31.000That's why you don't go to prison for your parents' debts.
01:24:35.000We had Richard Spencer on the Culture War today.
01:24:38.000They called him the most prominent white nationalist back in the first Trump era or whatever.
01:24:45.000And I think it's funny because he never really was that big.
01:25:12.000And I'm like, I am so sick of the far left and the stupid games they play of like, you hosted this person, that means you support him.
01:25:21.000There was a, I interviewed some alt-right guys back in like 2016, and there's a picture of me at a restaurant where they were all eating, and I'm sitting there.
01:26:24.000Let's have this conversation and understand what's going on.
01:26:27.000But instead, especially mainstream media is so afraid that if they have anyone come on that doesn't fit their narrative, and any of their points make sense, that they are then going to face some sort of backlash, or that they are emboldening whatever thought crime that person is committing.
01:26:44.000I think it's actually a threat to them.
01:26:46.000I think it's actually, I mean, shows like this, shows like Joe Rogan, that actually sit down with both sides, doing the thing that they don't do, it's actually journalism the way that it used to be, and now it's gotten so far away from that, and like we were saying before, it's gotten so one-sided that shows like this, and shows like Joe's, It's killing them because it's showing both sides and they can't say, well he said this.
01:27:20.000Well if you're talking to someone for two hours straight instead of getting a three second clip, then you actually know the whole story.
01:27:33.000Do you think that people want their news to expose them to new information or to confirm their own bias though?
01:27:40.000Yeah, well, I think they want to go further on.
01:27:44.000Journalism used to be different, where it was about, like, here's this brand new take, here's another site, here's something you've maybe never heard of or seen before, or here's a difficult conversation I'm having with someone who I don't see eye-to-eye with.
01:27:54.000But more and more, you know, I think MSNBC, right?
01:27:58.000They don't want their viewers to click away when they're like, oh, I don't think that person's saying something they should.
01:28:02.000So they'll just say, well, what do you want to hear?
01:28:04.000And we'll play it for you all day long, 24-7.
01:28:07.000And it's just a, you know, um, when, when their jobs actually should be like, like what I said before, hear both sides and you make up your own mind instead of, you know, the bias thing that we have now on both sides.
01:29:53.000I think people get passionate about things, too.
01:29:55.000That's what I noticed during COVID and the pandemic and everything.
01:29:58.000People started to be like, well, I don't really understand, so I have to do some of my own research.
01:30:02.000And I think that made people begin to say like, oh, maybe I should do this about more things.
01:30:06.000Maybe the information I'm getting is something I need to more critically look at and pursue what's actually going on.
01:30:15.000The remnants of institutional trust really were shaken and destroyed during that time because people got so much conflicting information and felt like the sources they were relying on led them in the wrong direction.
01:30:26.000But there was even a poll out from Rasmussen the other day that said most people now don't trust graduates of Ivy League schools.
01:31:28.000Right, so these are the old studio cameras, and you can tell, like, the main studio cameras we use for the show have been a massive upgrade.
01:31:35.000And then these were the old music studio cameras.
01:31:39.000I've had so many people say to me... Are these mine?
01:31:46.000Wow, that sounds great Can you hear me?
01:31:56.000So pretty cool thing we actually got a sponsorship for this song called Patriot Mobile and it's really cool thing because like they support pro-life and this song just goes hand-in-hand with that so I think y'all really like it.
01:34:02.000The first thing I was gonna do Was breathe and fall in love with you But a couple of weeks before I saw the light My mind flickered out when you changed your mind All I wanted was a chance To learn to love and laugh and dance.
01:35:02.000Well, I'm more than just someone I stand Or some burden that you think I am And there ain't no man who's ever gonna be What I was gonna be Some don't believe I'm a living soul Just a bad mistake that needs to go
01:39:58.000And I was like, dude, it would be based.
01:40:00.000I think the song that we have definitely lines up very strongly with a lot of conservative messaging.
01:40:07.000I don't want to say too much about it.
01:40:09.000I think I may have mentioned it, what it was about in the members only show or whatever.
01:40:14.000That's why you should become a member at TimGuess.com!
01:40:16.000Well yeah, I mean when you're watching the member show I say a lot of stuff that I don't say on the main show because I'm not supposed to and then I get yelled at later.
01:40:22.000Because I'm like Joe Biden, I have handlers.
01:40:26.000He's like, this is the thing we're doing and everyone's like, that was supposed to be a secret.
01:40:29.000Well, because like the people who are like, you know, especially with like, I'll talk to Phil and I'll be like, should I just come out and say it?
01:40:34.000And Phil's like, dude, dude, dude, come on.
01:41:26.000Did you guys co... Chris wrote the song and then you... Yeah, Chris was like halfway through it when he met me and then he ended up finishing it.
01:41:53.000Um, so my dad growing up played bluegrass music, along with like my grandpa and everything, so... He actually, he played at the Opry, didn't he?
01:42:02.000But, anyway, my dad grew up with this buddy, his name is Jamie Johnson, not the one with the big beard, but, you know.
01:42:08.000He started a band down here forever ago, so he's been, or in Nashville, he's been there for about 20 years, and he ended up meeting Chris one night at, was it a bar?
01:43:10.000Just as a musician, the structure, the melody, I don't want to disrespect anybody publicly on their music, but I was listening to some other music earlier and I was like, what is wrong with these musicians?
01:43:22.000I'm talking to my girlfriend and we're both in agreement that like, there's like the song that came on the streaming and we're just like how does this stuff make it on the it's a melodic it's like as generic as it comes uh i'm saying this because that second one was great like i put on my playlist right now awesome to it right i was i wanted to be like when is that coming out you know i feel like people that even don't listen to country just because it has such a good groove to it yeah that's like i don't yeah yeah it's cool
01:58:52.000One of the things we're talking about doing is that Friday's trying to aim for guests that play music so that we could do the jams and have them play.
01:59:00.000Cause otherwise it's like, we just play the same songs every Friday.
01:59:18.000Do you guys want to shout anything out as we wrap up?
01:59:20.000Your socials, where they can find the song?
01:59:22.000Yeah, like I said earlier, you can find this song on all streaming platforms, but also the mobile company that sponsored it, Patriot Mobile.
01:59:31.000You can use my code, it's just PatriotMobile.com slash Rachel, and you can get a free month.
01:59:37.000And also, yeah, you can find socials at Bass Records, and then my Instagram, Rachel Nicole Holt, the Chris Wallen.
01:59:45.000Well, and she also, I was going to say too, we also have merch and everything for the song as well on basedrecords.com to go there and, and, and, uh, you know, buy and, and look at the merch and, and check us out.
01:59:58.000And we're also going to start a membership.