Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Rob Reiner MURDERED, Son Arrested, Trump Faces Backlash Over Comments | Timcast IRL

00:02:19.000 It's a particularly tragic weekend.

00:02:22.000 We had the murder of Rob Reiner and his wife.

00:02:25.000 It's a horrifying story.

00:02:26.000 They were found with their throats slit, reportedly, and it was their son who was arrested.

00:02:32.000 We also have the shooting in Bondi Beach, horrifying attack on a Hanukkah celebration.

00:02:37.000 We have the shooting at Brown University, where the suspect is still at large.

00:02:42.000 They had a person of interest who was released.

00:02:44.000 And then, of course, the FBI has announced that they had thwarted a terror attack, a plot planned for New Year's Eve.

00:02:51.000 So when it rains, it pours, they say.

00:02:54.000 Now, Donald Trump has made some insensitive statements, as they described it, about Rob Reiner following his death.

00:03:00.000 And a lot of people are upset about it.

00:03:02.000 I think it's fair to say Donald Trump has a reason to be upset with Rob Reiner, who donated a lot of money going after him, accusing him of working for Russia and like being part of this Russian attack, as he described it on the United States.

00:03:15.000 But Rob Reiner was a Hollywood legend.

00:03:18.000 He's friends with many conservatives.

00:03:19.000 He was very gracious when Charlie Kirk was murdered.

00:03:22.000 My understanding is that James Woods had pointed out that they are very good friends and have been for a very long time.

00:03:26.000 And so this is a man who he had Trump derangement syndrome, sure, but he was a legend.

00:03:31.000 And I will tell you this.

00:03:32.000 I know most of you can.

00:03:34.000 I can recite probably from memory many of his movies.

00:03:37.000 Princess Bride, hands down, I can probably just recite the whole movie from memory.

00:03:41.000 So this is horrifying.

00:03:42.000 And I think it's an opportunity for people to kind of, you know, lay down your sword and come together.

00:03:46.000 We're going to talk about that.

00:03:47.000 A lot of people are criticizing Donald Trump.

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00:06:02.000 Hey, Tim.

00:06:03.000 It's good to be here.

00:06:04.000 Who are you?

00:06:04.000 Thanks for coming.

00:06:05.000 What do you do?

00:06:05.000 Yeah, it's great to be here in Las Vegas, sitting at a poker table.

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00:06:10.000 Some of the most dangerous headlines, I think, of the year.

00:06:14.000 Indeed.

00:06:16.000 What do you do?

00:06:16.000 What's your well, my big thing is making sure there's transparency in science and health.

00:06:22.000 I was a director of communications for Robert Kennedy Jr., so it was a big part of getting him the HHS secretary.

00:06:28.000 And I'm pretty stoked to see what the sort of maha thing has got going on. 0.98

00:06:33.000 And bringing transparency to very, very, I think it's the most controversial issues really there is when you talk about, you know, looking into vaccines.

00:06:42.000 Are they effective?

00:06:42.000 Are they safe?

00:06:43.000 Are we giving too many, not enough?

00:06:46.000 And reanalyzing that.

00:06:48.000 It should be that we could reanalyze anything in science.

00:06:50.000 But if you're not sure if this one is really there's big news on the Hep B vaccine for kids, too.

00:06:55.000 They're pulling that off.

00:06:55.000 Is that what's happening?

00:06:56.000 Well, they're not pulling it off, which is, I mean, which is what the critics of Bobby said he would always do.

00:07:00.000 You're going to get rid of all the vaccines.

00:07:01.000 The truth is he's doing what I think most Americans would want, which is hepatitis B, sexually transmitted disease.

00:07:08.000 You can only get it if you're sleeping with prostitutes or sharing heroin needles.

00:07:12.000 99.95% of mothers are not hepatitis B positive or negative.

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00:07:20.000 So all they said was, if a mother's hepatitis B negative, they just had these meetings at CDC last week.

00:07:26.000 If they're hepatitis B negative, they've tested negative, then it's shared decision making between them and their doctor.

00:07:32.000 Let them and their doctor decide if they want to get that vaccine.

00:07:34.000 So nobody yanked the vaccine out of existence.

00:07:37.000 They just said forcing it, you know, recommending it by the CDC, which turns into mandate.

00:07:42.000 And the work I do, I get called all the time by people that are at the hospital.

00:07:47.000 They don't want to get the hepatitis B vaccine to their baby, and the hospital's calling child protective services on them, threatening to take the baby away, threatening to take all their kids away.

00:07:56.000 I mean, it's really obscene for a disease that their child has no risk for if they're negative.

00:08:01.000 So I think that culture is about to shift quite a lot with Robert Kenny Jr.

00:08:05.000 Well, it's going to be interesting.

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00:09:13.000 So, yeah, let's get into the news there, my friends.

00:09:16.000 We've got this from CNN.

00:09:16.000 We'll start with this.

00:09:18.000 Trump doubles down on his criticism of slain director Rob Reiner.

00:09:23.000 First, let me give you the quick news.

00:09:25.000 For those that have missed this story, I think everybody's seen it.

00:09:28.000 Rayner's son, arrested in the deaths of his parents, they say Nick Reiner, 32, is being held without bail on suspicion of murder after the bodies of the director Rob Reiner and his wife Michelle were found in their home.

00:09:40.000 They say his son, we know this, the arrest came Sunday.

00:09:43.000 The arrest on Sunday came the day after the father and son were seen arguing at a party at the home of the comedian Conan O'Brien, according to a party attendee who recalled Rob Reiner telling his son that his behavior was inappropriate.

00:09:54.000 The attendee, who asked not to be named to maintain relationships, did not speak to any of the Reiners at the party and added that it was unclear what the argument was about.

00:10:02.000 The son, Nick Reiner, 32, was arrested Sunday night and was being held in jail in LA County, the police said.

00:10:07.000 Jail records viewable online initially indicated that bail had been set at 4 million, but those records had since been modified.

00:10:13.000 He was being held without bail, the police said.

00:10:16.000 So, according to numerous reports, they were saying that they were found with stab wounds or their throats slit.

00:10:23.000 Horrifying story.

00:10:24.000 We've got this from CNN addressing Donald Trump's statements.

00:10:28.000 Let's play it.

00:10:29.000 Trump has already come under criticism for what he has said on his true social platform about Rob Reiner.

00:10:37.000 He accused him of having Trump derangement syndrome.

00:10:40.000 He said he was known to have driven people crazy by his raging obsession with Donald Trump.

00:10:45.000 He called him tortured and struggling, but once very talented.

00:10:49.000 This is what he had to say, of course, upon learning that Rob Reiner and his wife Michelle had passed away.

00:10:55.000 Trump then, just a few moments ago, had this to say in a QA with reporters.

00:11:01.000 Let's take a look.

00:11:04.000 Well, I wasn't a fan of his at all. 0.92

00:11:06.000 He was a deranged person as far as Trump is concerned.

00:11:09.000 He said he liked it. 0.52

00:11:11.000 He knew it was false.

00:11:12.000 In fact, it's the exact opposite that I was a friend of Russia controlled by Russia. 0.86

00:11:17.000 You know, it was the Russia hoax. 0.67

00:11:18.000 He was one of the people behind it.

00:11:21.000 I think he hurt himself in career-wise. 0.72

00:11:23.000 So he became like a deranged person, Trump derangement syndrome.

00:11:28.000 So I was not a fan of Rob Reiner at all in any way, shape, or form.

00:11:32.000 I thought he was very bad for our country. 0.92

00:11:35.000 Homie, it sounds like Trump has Trump derangement syndrome. 0.81

00:11:38.000 Like this. 0.98

00:11:39.000 Trump has Trump derangement syndrome.

00:11:41.000 He even talked about himself in the third person when they followed up and asked him to clarify.

00:11:44.000 Do you really?

00:11:45.000 Are you really going to stand behind the comments earlier?

00:11:47.000 He's like, yeah, that's something Trump would think.

00:11:49.000 Like, something like that.

00:11:50.000 Like, dude, what?

00:11:52.000 They didn't ask him if he was a fan of Rob Reiner.

00:11:54.000 I don't know what their lead-in question was there, but I'm sure it wasn't that.

00:11:57.000 It's just really gruesome.

00:12:00.000 This is why people hated him in 2016 and didn't want to vote for him.

00:12:03.000 It's why people hated him in 2020 and didn't want to vote for him.

00:12:06.000 This is why, is because he says stuff like this.

00:12:09.000 You know, I talked to a fair amount of folks, and the sentiment is fairly universal that this is not the way to handle it.

00:12:21.000 Donald Trump, of course, I think his points are valid, but there's a time and a place.

00:12:26.000 You know what I mean?

00:12:27.000 Rob Reiner was a Hollywood legend, and we want to go back to a time when we disagreed.

00:12:32.000 And this is what I was saying this morning.

00:12:34.000 The disagreements are actually how we solve problems in this country.

00:12:38.000 When one person on the left says, I want this tax policy, and the person on the right says no, and then we work out what is the best way to go about it.

00:12:44.000 And then people vote for the reps.

00:12:46.000 The reps will come and then backstab the American people and then cater to the big banks, the corporations, and big pharmaceuticals, and nothing ever gets done.

00:12:52.000 And we all get screwed together.

00:12:53.000 Anyway, I'm on a tangent now. 0.94

00:12:54.000 My point is, this was an opportunity for Trump to be magnanimous.

00:13:00.000 Everybody's basically saying, I know Rob was, you know, Trump derangement or whatever.

00:13:06.000 But that era of movies, those movies are the American culture we want to remember.

00:13:11.000 Princess Bride, it's one of the greatest films of all time.

00:13:14.000 Even though the story's a little wonky, it's weird, but it's just so good, so memorable.

00:13:19.000 And I can probably recite the whole thing from memory.

00:13:22.000 Trump had an opportunity to actually say, I know the guy hated me.

00:13:26.000 I know the guy had said bad things about me, but I'm truly sad to see this happen.

00:13:30.000 He did that with Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

00:13:33.000 So.

00:13:34.000 I was thinking, you know, even just a couple of weeks ago with Zoran Mondani with the way he brought him in and put his big arm around him.

00:13:40.000 I mean, those were attacks going both ways, but it's not like Trump doesn't understand how to do that.

00:13:45.000 It doesn't, you know, in that moment, I thought that was amazing.

00:13:47.000 He makes it like he's his best friend, even though he's like the most liberal, you know, slash communist person ever grabbed office in New York.

00:13:54.000 But Donald Trump brings him in, is totally friendly, congratulates him, amazing job.

00:13:59.000 And so when I saw this, I was like, it's not like Trump doesn't understand the power of sort of playing the nice card, right?

00:14:06.000 I'm in the power position.

00:14:08.000 I can say whatever I want.

00:14:09.000 And in this situation, he just seemed to let it go and decide to let his, it seems like, you know, I don't want to say rage, certainly anger towards everything he's been through.

00:14:19.000 He's been through a lot.

00:14:20.000 I get it.

00:14:21.000 But, you know, these are the last statements made.

00:14:24.000 Why not play nice and take the upper hand?

00:14:27.000 I think that this is, I mean, it's typical Trump.

00:14:31.000 I do think that it was bad.

00:14:32.000 I think that he should have been magnanimous.

00:14:34.000 But at the same time, this is going to go away in like one news cycle.

00:14:38.000 No one's going to remember what he said about Rob Reiner.

00:14:40.000 It's a horrible story, the way that Rob Brownie died and his wife died.

00:14:45.000 It's allegedly his son that did it.

00:14:48.000 Obviously, we have to see what comes out, and I don't have any kind of inside information about that.

00:14:52.000 I'm only going by reports.

00:14:53.000 But it's a terrible, terrible tragedy to hear that a family was murdered like that by their own kid.

00:15:02.000 The poor daughter is going to be absolutely devastated, of course. 0.96

00:15:05.000 So it's a terrible thing.

00:15:08.000 Like I said, I wish Trump had been a little more magnanimous, but honestly, it's going to go away because people are going to find the next thing to be outraged at Trump.

00:15:15.000 And to your point, Ian earlier, I do think that you have some point when you're like, oh, this is one of the things that people hated about Trump was the way that he would behave.

00:15:26.000 But I don't think that if he were a magnanimous person all the time and spoke softly and was kind, I don't think the left would have a significantly different opinion on him if his policies were the same, right?

00:15:38.000 The idea that we have to build the wall, the idea that we need to deport illegals, those kind of things are just a total affront to what the left stands for.

00:15:48.000 And I think that no matter how he delivers those messages, they're going to call him a Nazi.

00:15:52.000 They're going to call him all the names.

00:15:54.000 I understand what you're saying.

00:15:55.000 And to a degree, I think you have a bit of a point.

00:15:57.000 But I think overall, it doesn't matter what Trump says, the policies that Trump wants to have, the left are going to act like he is the worst thing ever.

00:16:06.000 Remember what they called George Bush?

00:16:08.000 Remember what they called Mitt Romney?

00:16:10.000 And Mitt Romney was the most milquetoast, soft-spoken, polite, politically correct guy you could possibly find in the Republican Party.

00:16:18.000 Yeah, but I mean, I will say it's really hard to take criticism.

00:16:22.000 From and browbeating from, people who dunked all over Charlie Kirk when he died, people that ran cover for a candidate in Virginia who threatened to kill Republicans.

00:16:32.000 I mean it's like it's one thing if it's an internal discussion among MAGA like okay, was this appropriate, was it not?

00:16:36.000 But the seeing the left come out and, you know, try to hold Trump's feet to the fire.

00:16:42.000 I mean we had, uh we had multiple people coming out saying Trump's been given the off ramp at every moment, or Trump supporters been given the off ramp at every moment.

00:16:49.000 And it's like when is enough enough?

00:16:50.000 And it's like Trump was brought in to disrupt the status quo.

00:16:53.000 You got to take the good with the bad.

00:16:54.000 I mean it is what it is.

00:16:55.000 I mean Ben Spiro makes this point all the time and it's a good point.

00:16:58.000 It's like look, sometimes Trump Um hits the nail on the head, sometimes he hits a baby.

00:17:02.000 It is what it is.

00:17:03.000 Uh, but there's truth.

00:17:04.000 It's like i'm not gonna take criticism and lectures from people that want me dead.

00:17:08.000 I mean that's just the reality of the situation.

00:17:10.000 The point is we're we're trying to present the American people with an alternative to what the left has been doing, and if Charlie Kirk is murdered.

00:17:16.000 And then they're jumping up and down dancing.

00:17:18.000 You guys see that viral video of that woman Uh, with the fake like dress, like Erica Kirk, dancing around while wiping her eyes to music or whatever.

00:17:24.000 Yeah just, they're gonna keep celebrating the murder, they're gonna keep Uh, mocking the the, the widow, because she's not grieving the way they want her to.

00:17:33.000 And Trump has an opportunity to come out and say, that's not us, we don't do that.

00:17:36.000 And this is the point when all of the weird woke cancel culture stuff was happening, the point was the right was saying, guys, if you're scared of losing your job because those wackos are telling you you can't speak, come to our side where we allow you to speak, where no one's going to fire you from your job because you said naughty words or a joke. 0.96

00:17:54.000 The position now is, well, I do agree, i'm not gonna, i'm i'm not gonna listen to any one of these wacko lefties who are dancing on Charlie's grave. 1.00

00:18:02.000 But I will then say, this is an opportunity for Trump to be like, we're not gonna do what they do.

00:18:07.000 We are, we are going to be the side where you know that people will genuinely feel bad if you were to die.

00:18:13.000 When he was said, uh started saying well, Rob Riner had Tds, I I don't know.

00:18:17.000 He didn't say he had it coming, but he was basically saying well, this guy had all these problems, so he's kind of justifying why he got murdered.

00:18:24.000 That was what they were doing about Charlie Kirk.

00:18:26.000 Well, he was a Trump guy, so he had it coming.

00:18:28.000 You know like it's the exact same state of mind.

00:18:30.000 You start victim blaming or like describing how they and I think it is a cycle and if you do it, next guy's gonna do it again, and then, if you don't have someone that shuts the door, it's gonna do it again and again and again.

00:18:41.000 I've, i've i've heard these stories over and over again.

00:18:43.000 And it was uh, the great dancer who I referenced recently over things like this with trump derangement syndrome it's.

00:18:49.000 It's perfect now that we're in Vegas, because the story he told us on the show was he really believed Trump was all the things they, they accused him of doing until his buddy actually made him watch the very fine People hoax video and he thought he knew And that's why he hated Donald Trump, because Trump was doing all these things.

00:19:09.000 He watched the full video finally, and that's when it clicked that Trump never called Nazis fine people.

00:19:15.000 He realized he was wrong and opened up the door, and he was like, Maybe I'm wrong about some other things, too, and started looking into it.

00:19:20.000 My point is, we have to, for a lot of these people, create that opportunity to come open, come over, show them the door, right?

00:19:28.000 And I'll put it like this: guys, you know, to be honest, this is actually rather tepid on Trump's part.

00:19:34.000 I don't think he said anything super egregious.

00:19:37.000 He's like, well, you know, yeah, TDS, Trump doing, I was no fan.

00:19:40.000 It's like, eh, he could be nicer.

00:19:42.000 But it's nothing compared to what the left has been doing.

00:19:45.000 So I still do think we capture a little bit of that.

00:19:47.000 We're nicer.

00:19:48.000 It's just that I think it's a better opportunity to say, you know, come hang out with us.

00:19:52.000 We're not going to dance on your grave.

00:19:53.000 Does he have a comms director?

00:19:55.000 I mean, I don't know if he would drown him.

00:19:56.000 Not one that he loses.

00:20:00.000 No one would want that job.

00:20:01.000 You certainly don't want your name on that job.

00:20:03.000 Look, I don't think he said what you said.

00:20:05.000 I don't think he said he had it coming or anything like that.

00:20:07.000 I mean, I haven't really dissected the information down, but it's basically this guy's been an a-hole my entire existence here.

00:20:15.000 We're not friends.

00:20:17.000 And, you know, I'm going to just have one last statement about that.

00:20:21.000 It lacks, you know, but everyone that says, you know, I wish that Donald Trump spoke better.

00:20:26.000 If he just spoke better, I mean, even in 2020, when he didn't take the presidency, that was the whole thing.

00:20:32.000 Like, if he just spoke better, the way he speaks got the largest vote in Republican history.

00:20:38.000 And I want to make this point too, clear about Joe Biden, that 2020 election, that not only did he get more Republican votes than anyone in history, I don't believe anyone that year voted for Joe Biden.

00:20:49.000 They voted against Donald Trump.

00:20:50.000 We have never seen anything like this human being ever on this planet where 100% of the vote was about one guy.

00:20:57.000 And, you know, I know something.

00:20:59.000 I get a lot of negative energy in what I do.

00:21:01.000 And you get used to either you're going to get crushed by it or you start using it as fuel and you start using it to wake people up and, you know, get, you know, get more sound bites and go viral or whatever it is.

00:21:11.000 I think these are those moments where he gets so used to any attention is good attention.

00:21:17.000 And I don't know what he's trying to distract us from this week.

00:21:19.000 There might be something out there, but I think this is a moment where he just misplayed it.

00:21:24.000 But I agree, it's just lax taste. 1.00

00:21:27.000 Yeah, I mean, it's just stupid. 0.99

00:21:28.000 You're seeing a lot of people on the right, like really pearl clutching over this. 0.99

00:21:31.000 And I'm just like, to your point, I mean, with Trump, if he succumbs to the demands of people on the right, they're like, oh, he just needs to speak better.

00:21:39.000 He's a tone it down.

00:21:41.000 He would just perform as well as every other Republican that gets walloped when it's a non-Trump year.

00:21:45.000 All these people that are perfect consultant class.

00:21:47.000 He's like, Trump's rough around the edges.

00:21:49.000 You got to take the good at the bat because when he's on, he's on and no one else is there.

00:21:53.000 He's a tone setter.

00:21:54.000 I just kind of take the JD Vance position that he had with the political article where that group chat leaked where he was just like, look, it's really hard to get worked up over a statement like this.

00:22:03.000 Like Tim said it's tepid at best.

00:22:05.000 Same thing with the political group chat leak.

00:22:06.000 It's really hard to get worked up over that when, can we take a look at what they're doing, where they're actively, you know, wishing the death of their political rivals?

00:22:14.000 I mean, like, what are we doing?

00:22:15.000 Let's go to this next story.

00:22:16.000 We got this from Fox News, ladies and gentlemen.

00:22:18.000 FBI arrests four alleged members of radical pro-Palestinian group accused of plotting New Year's Eve bombings.

00:22:25.000 Individuals self-identified as members of the Turtle Island Liberation Front.

00:22:29.000 So the quick gist here is they were planning to use IEDs, according to the FBI, on New Year's Eve.

00:22:34.000 And apparently their motivation is anti-imperialism.

00:22:38.000 It's not really about pro-Palestine.

00:22:39.000 They are just general leftists who think that the United States is a colonizing force and they want to decolonize.

00:22:45.000 And for this, they wanted to blow people up, according to the FBI.

00:22:49.000 So I can't say that I'm surprised, but what I am, again, not surprised, I guess I'll add this, is that it's not being framed as leftist when it clearly is.

00:22:59.000 The quote, free Palestine, free Hawaii, free Puerto Rico, freeing the world from American imperialism.

00:23:04.000 This is not a right-wing position.

00:23:06.000 And I'm using right-wing in the way the left uses it.

00:23:08.000 When they said the right is nationalistic, authoritarian.

00:23:11.000 Okay, this is the opposite of that.

00:23:13.000 It's anarcho-tyrannical, anti-American.

00:23:17.000 It is clearly aligned with leftist, anti-colonial, decolonized, whatever.

00:23:22.000 But I guarantee you, they're going to put it under right-wing anti-government extremists, and they're not going to classify it as leftist.

00:23:28.000 I can't imagine.

00:23:29.000 I mean, I don't think you're wrong, but I can't imagine how you can twist yourself into saying that it's right-wing.

00:23:36.000 And to this point, it's a good thing that Donald Trump has actually started focusing on homegrown terror from the left.

00:23:45.000 This plot right here, obviously, was one of the things that one of the reasons why the DOJ should be focusing on this stuff.

00:23:53.000 But you can go back and look the past year at how many leftist attacks on whether they be individuals or businesses or what have you, how much violence they're actually carrying out in the United States.

00:24:05.000 And to think that they're not planning more, considering how they've been essentially marginalized politically, the left does not have the power that it used to.

00:24:14.000 They've been losing over and over and over.

00:24:15.000 And this is how they lash out.

00:24:17.000 So it's good that the DOJ is doing this stuff, and I just want to see more.

00:24:22.000 Well, you know, some advice to all you anti-imperialists out there.

00:24:26.000 I'm not the biggest fan of what I think is the least worst global system we've ever had.

00:24:30.000 You know, we haven't had a world war in 80 years.

00:24:31.000 That's really cool.

00:24:32.000 If you want to end empire, you've got to replace it with something better.

00:24:37.000 Don't just try and destroy what we got.

00:24:38.000 You're going to prison if you do that, and you're going to be seen as a villain.

00:24:41.000 You've got to think bigger, make better.

00:24:44.000 They're going to say they want to replace it with communism or some kind of socialism.

00:24:46.000 That's the goal.

00:24:47.000 Oh, shall we talk about Animal Farm in the movie?

00:24:49.000 I really hate what I'm hearing.

00:24:51.000 I saw you text a tweet about it that they're doing it.

00:24:53.000 We'll get it in a second.

00:24:55.000 Ultimately, well, yeah, yeah, I don't know. 0.96

00:24:57.000 That's what I'm thinking is like these foolish radicals that want to blow things up and they think that that's the step forward. 0.96

00:25:03.000 You just got to, I don't know how to wake them up exactly. 0.97

00:25:06.000 But if you're a kid, if you're listening now, don't do that path.

00:25:09.000 Build better things because we can improve on this imperial system and probably we might even be able to decolonize and de-imperialize the world in a better way for everybody.

00:25:19.000 But that's by creating new things.

00:25:21.000 I just think I think the political violence is going to keep getting worse.

00:25:25.000 And it's not just this left-right divide, these principal left-right factions, but the internet is creating pockets of tons of different factions.

00:25:34.000 I mean, you only really need 100 whackaloons of any crazy ideology to get political violence to a great degree. 0.99

00:25:44.000 This is four people.

00:25:45.000 You've got the Zizians. 1.00

00:25:47.000 You've got 764.

00:25:48.000 You don't need a left versus right.

00:25:51.000 You've just got whack-aloon groups popping up all over the place. 1.00

00:25:54.000 That's what's got me worried about the political violence moving forward to next year.

00:25:57.000 But aren't we playing into this?

00:25:58.000 I mean, we're calling this left or this right.

00:26:00.000 Oh, they're going to say, you know, we're saying it's left.

00:26:02.000 They're going to try to make it right. 0.76

00:26:04.000 I mean, when are we going to get to the place where we're back to just these are some crazy people that are against America?

00:26:10.000 I mean, I'm really, I am very concerned, actually, because we're all doing it.

00:26:14.000 I mean, I know we talk about how Charlie Kirk was talked about.

00:26:17.000 I mean, I think about this a lot, but we're all carrying hatred for the other side.

00:26:21.000 We're, you know, if you're a conservative, you're terrified of communism in this country.

00:26:25.000 And it's, it's, I mean, when they say, oh, there's a civil war.

00:26:28.000 I mean, we are.

00:26:28.000 I mean, I don't know how a civil war would ever happen with the laziest society the world's ever seen.

00:26:33.000 I mean, that's only 3% of Americans fought in the revolution.

00:26:36.000 Right.

00:26:37.000 But, you know, we are all playing this.

00:26:39.000 And I think that's part of like, not to go back to the Trump story, but it's what's bothering us is so many of us are going back for the holidays to visit with our families.

00:26:46.000 And we're going to try and like really finally get our liberal brothers, sisters, relatives to understand, look how much good is happening here.

00:26:53.000 And a line like that by Trump doesn't help.

00:26:56.000 But, you know, I mean, we have to, if we do not figure out how to reach across the aisle somehow, we keep calling each other names.

00:27:04.000 It does feel like it's coming one direction, but, you know, here we are.

00:27:07.000 Left.

00:27:08.000 Is it right? 0.99

00:27:09.000 It's a bunch of pro-Palestinians that want to kill Americans for no reasonable reason.

00:27:14.000 But I would posit that there actually is an underlying ideology to what's going on here because leftism fundamentally is deconstructionist. 0.64

00:27:21.000 They want to take apart what brings order to the world, these sorts of things.

00:27:25.000 That's where the ideas of decolonization come out. 0.86

00:27:28.000 That's why they specifically harp on about Hawaii, harp on about Puerto Rico.

00:27:31.000 So what's happening here is it's wise from the FBI to keep an eye on these sorts of groups because fundamentally they do want to take apart what is the United States.

00:27:38.000 And leftism and its natural conclusion is going to result in things like this because once they feel like they can't achieve means, Oron McIntyre me and Phil were talking about his interview with Amy Aiden Paladin, where people with a strong outgroup preference are never going to be satisfied with whoever's in office.

00:27:58.000 They're going to continue to lash out because they're in constant rebellion.

00:28:01.000 So what you're seeing with these people here, this is leftism at its natural conclusion.

00:28:04.000 These are people that are always in a constant rebellion and nothing, no sort of bone that we can throw to them will ever fully satiate them.

00:28:12.000 When you bring up decolonization, you have to talk about Franz Fannin, the guy that wrote this book called The Wretched of the Earth.

00:28:18.000 And in the book, it specifically says that decolonization is an inherently violent process.

00:28:24.000 Yes.

00:28:25.000 You don't get to have a peaceful change of the guard when you're talking about decolonization.

00:28:31.000 When you're talking about decolonization, you're not talking about just voting in the people that you like.

00:28:36.000 There's always violence associated with it.

00:28:38.000 And so if you've got a group that's saying we want to decolonize, we want to, you know, we want to decolonize Hawaii.

00:28:44.000 We want to decolonize, you know, we stand for decolonization of Palestine or what have you. 0.99

00:28:49.000 These people aren't looking for a peaceful solution.

00:28:51.000 These people are not going to be debated.

00:28:54.000 These people are violent by their nature.

00:28:57.000 That's why they're attracted to books like The Wretched of the Earth by Franz Fannin.

00:29:01.000 They were attracted to ideologies like the decolonized whatever ideology.

00:29:07.000 This stuff is all leftist violence that you can't reason with.

00:29:12.000 It's inherently violent.

00:29:15.000 You have to put these people in jail.

00:29:16.000 I want to put it like this because you're saying we keep pointing the finger at each other.

00:29:21.000 That's why the challenge that we have is the left-right distinction doesn't make any sense.

00:29:26.000 And it's a point we've talked about quite a bit.

00:29:28.000 Right doesn't mean lower taxes.

00:29:31.000 It doesn't mean go to church.

00:29:35.000 To every conservative, I'm a liberal.

00:29:37.000 To every liberal, because liberal doesn't even mean liberal, I'm a conservative or far right.

00:29:43.000 So what we're talking about when we say left is there is an ideological zealotry that exists specifically in a group of people.

00:29:52.000 And the right, when we talk about the right, it's actually just what the core of America has been for the past 30 years.

00:29:58.000 So how we call out those who dance on the grave of Charlie Kirk, the right doesn't really have that.

00:30:04.000 Certainly there are some people that they exist and you're going to have fringe wackos.

00:30:08.000 So you made this point saying, when are we going to go back to just saying that these are extremists?

00:30:11.000 That is what the right is.

00:30:13.000 On the right, almost everybody is always saying violence is wrong, and sometimes there's wackos. 0.95

00:30:18.000 The quote-unquote left is largely just a bunch of wackos. 0.96

00:30:22.000 So it's fair to say these are just all extremists, but there is a uniqueness to what the left has harbored, what the Democrats are harboring and the ideas they espouse when they align themselves with, I mean, there's thousands upon thousands of videos of people celebrating the murder of Charlie Kirk.

00:30:40.000 Yeah, but I just, I mean, I grew up in Boulder, Colorado, so I come from like the crystal cathedral of liberalism, right?

00:30:46.000 I mean, it doesn't that Aspen, Berkeley, you know.

00:30:50.000 And so what I can say is this: I'll go home.

00:30:52.000 I'm going to have arguments with friends and family because they all have a different perspective than I do.

00:30:58.000 But what I will not hear is that they believe in decolonization.

00:31:02.000 You know, I mean, and then this is what I struggle with: is what is, I mean, when we say left, but there's, there's, there's, I agree that there's this globalist, authoritarian, communist, whatever you want to take it, you know, rush our borders, destroy, like water down our society, make us demand that the National Guard come in and take away our rights because we're, we can't handle ourselves and we vote in the nanny state.

00:31:26.000 But what is what I think is difficult about this time is that I really think that they're, it's more like they're brainwashed or that they're they're hypnotized, right?

00:31:36.000 They don't actually know what they're fighting for.

00:31:38.000 When we say left, sure, if you're talking about the whoever's in charge, whatever the they is, but the people that are watching CNN, MSMBC, they don't actually know what they're a part of.

00:31:47.000 And if they did, if you could write them up, I think they'd be with us.

00:31:50.000 I think they'd be in the right that you're talking about.

00:31:52.000 I was one.

00:31:53.000 Agreed.

00:31:53.000 You know?

00:31:54.000 Like there are many people who are formerly FTDS.

00:31:57.000 And this is the issue.

00:31:59.000 There is a left.

00:32:00.000 And then there are people who have aligned themselves ignorantly, and I mean that derivatively, but ignorantly with these people.

00:32:05.000 And I have these conversations typically with these boomers who are voting Democrat.

00:32:10.000 And then I mention one Democrat policy and they say, I'm lying.

00:32:13.000 I made it up.

00:32:14.000 There's no way.

00:32:15.000 Do you think that there should be abortion up to the point of birth?

00:32:18.000 They go, no one's doing that.

00:32:20.000 I'm like, let me pull up a list for you of all the Democrats.

00:32:23.000 They don't believe it.

00:32:24.000 They won't listen.

00:32:25.000 And so when you have fringe leftists.

00:32:27.000 You're making my point.

00:32:29.000 You're exactly where I'm going.

00:32:30.000 And so the point is this.

00:32:31.000 When we point out that there are fringe leftists who are extremists, standing in front of them are a bunch of doofy boomers who are protecting them and voting in their policies. 0.96

00:32:42.000 We have a problem.

00:32:44.000 But it's the banality of evil. 0.96

00:32:45.000 Just because they're ignorant doesn't mean they're excused for what they're doing. 0.98

00:32:48.000 But they're hypnotized. 0.99

00:32:49.000 It's really like trying to crack someone out of a zombie trance.

00:32:53.000 You still got to put them in the middle of the world.

00:32:54.000 But I agree.

00:32:55.000 But if we're going to get through to people that we care about, then we're going to have to understand how they think.

00:33:01.000 And they are not thinking as like they're not carrying strong leftist values.

00:33:05.000 To your point, when you lay them out to them, they're like, no, that's not true.

00:33:08.000 Oh, that's not true.

00:33:09.000 No, that's propaganda.

00:33:10.000 That's what the Trumpers say.

00:33:12.000 They really don't get that.

00:33:14.000 That's what the driving force of what they're voting for is.

00:33:18.000 So somehow, if we keep calling them and labeling them with this ideology that they don't even actually adhere to, I don't think we're going to win this game.

00:33:27.000 There's got to be a better way to get to the people and say, you're being led by people you would not agree with if you could wake up.

00:33:33.000 I'm just, you know, it's semantics in a way.

00:33:36.000 I think you're underestimating exactly how pervasive this ideology is on the to young people.

00:33:42.000 If you go to colleges, you have to take some kind of humanities courses to graduate.

00:33:48.000 And the humanities are where this stuff is absolutely prevalent, right?

00:33:54.000 It is everywhere.

00:33:55.000 The idea that the right is imperialist and based on evil, that is pervasive throughout all of the, all of colleges.

00:34:04.000 It's not just a handful of colleges, and it's not just a handful of classes.

00:34:09.000 There was a time a couple years back where there was an argument that was coming that you heard actual mathematicians making the argument that sometimes two plus two equals five.

00:34:19.000 This kind of ideology is seeping out of the humanities.

00:34:22.000 It's all over the English classes.

00:34:24.000 It's all over, it's getting into STEM and stuff like that.

00:34:28.000 So I understand your point, and I do think there is a bit of truth to it because it's not something that everybody is really committed to.

00:34:36.000 But I do think there are a lot of young people that really believe that the West is overall evil.

00:34:42.000 They believe the things they've heard in their humanities classes, their women's studies classes, anything in the humanities, really.

00:34:51.000 But it's basically saying that the West is evil.

00:34:54.000 And if you ascribe to anything that the West does, you're saying that you accept evil.

00:34:59.000 And I think that it's important that we notice that this is not just a very fringe right.

00:35:06.000 It's a lot of people that really have moved out of the colleges and moved into broader society.

00:35:12.000 I think you're pointing out a generational issue, which is I see it as dealing with my parents, my brother, sister, you know, and my kids, you know, I went to school with, they're not quite.

00:35:22.000 But what you are talking about, you're right.

00:35:24.000 I am sort of blind to, I do see what they're teaching in college, and the young people are coming out much more radicalized against it.

00:35:31.000 Probably closer to your age than anybody else here.

00:35:32.000 But you're surprised.

00:35:33.000 It's a good point.

00:35:34.000 No, I'm not saying you're not.

00:35:36.000 I think it is a generational issue.

00:35:37.000 If these people truly, a bunch of them are hypnotized and you fall into, like, Phil, to respond to you, and you fall into saying, I think you really believe what you're saying.

00:35:46.000 In their hypnotic state, you're like, no, that's really who you are.

00:35:49.000 That's going to mean you lose to them and you lose to the hypnotist.

00:35:52.000 You have to shatter through that.

00:35:55.000 Well, it's not as simple as just, you know, having a conversation or two, right?

00:35:59.000 Like, the people that believe that the West has colonized the world and has oppressed the entire world.

00:36:06.000 You're not going to sit them down and show them the Trump video where he says, no, there were, you know, the verifying people hoax and have someone say, oh, well, I didn't know that he said that.

00:36:17.000 Now I'm going to change everything.

00:36:18.000 These people have this ideology ingrained in them, and they have for four, eight, you know, whatever years that they're in college.

00:36:26.000 Their post-grad studies, like it's all over the place.

00:36:28.000 So it's not just the situation of, hey, we got to talk to our family members, not saying that that doesn't work or that's not important.

00:36:35.000 It's just that this is something that we have, it's a societal problem that we have right now.

00:36:40.000 And we can't just say, oh, well, you know, if we just sit down and talk to people, they'll change their opinion.

00:36:45.000 These are, you're going to have to end up putting the violent people in jail, take them out of society because they're looking to destroy society.

00:36:54.000 Yeah, I mean, because people, we were going on, to Phil's point, the college campuses are where a lot of this is occurring.

00:37:00.000 We went to the college campuses and they shot us for our trouble.

00:37:03.000 So, I mean, it's like at a certain point when you're dealing with people who fundamentally do not accept the pretense of debate, then we have to believe them when they say these things.

00:37:12.000 We have to accept their presupposition that they just simply don't believe in debate anymore.

00:37:16.000 Let's jump to this next story.

00:37:17.000 We got breaking news, ladies and gentlemen.

00:37:19.000 The meeting between Candace Owens and Erica Kirk has concluded, and Candace and Erica have both tweeted with Candace saying that it was an extremely productive meeting.

00:37:27.000 And again, I know there's a lot of people out there.

00:37:28.000 They always say this is just silly drama.

00:37:30.000 It doesn't matter.

00:37:30.000 It certainly does matter when the right is being torn apart at the beginning of a midterm year, and we have to win.

00:37:37.000 Otherwise, Trump doesn't get the back half of a second term.

00:37:40.000 This means that all of the gains get erased.

00:37:43.000 It means Trump's going to get impeached on some nonsense reason.

00:37:46.000 We have a story from the post-millennial.

00:37:48.000 A report, podcaster Candace Owens met with TPUSA CEO Erica Kirk on Monday after weeks of tension.

00:37:55.000 As a result, Owens said tensions were thawed.

00:37:57.000 The meeting went on for four and a half hours, and Owens reported that she would give a full rundown on Tuesday, saying, Erica and I had an extremely productive four and a half hour meeting that I think we both feel should have taken place a lot earlier than it did.

00:38:11.000 We agreed much more than I anticipated.

00:38:13.000 Of course, we also disagreed on various points and people as well.

00:38:17.000 Most importantly, we were able to share intel and clarify intent.

00:38:20.000 I will, of course, have a full rundown for you all tomorrow as I am currently exhausted.

00:38:26.000 But I wanted to quickly let you guys know that absolutely nothing was held back.

00:38:29.000 And the immediate result was that tensions were thawed.

00:38:32.000 Now, I think this is interesting, as a moment ago, we were talking about the left and the right and people who are brainwashed in these factions.

00:38:39.000 And I think Candace certainly represents another form of zealotry. 0.64

00:38:42.000 It's not necessarily a right-wing thing.

00:38:44.000 I know a lot of people say that she's on the right or woke right or whatever it is.

00:38:47.000 But if you look at the young Turk's comments, you can see that Candace has a very, very massive liberal audience. 0.98

00:38:53.000 These are regular people who don't know a whole lot about what is going on.

00:38:58.000 And it's really easy to trick people into thinking insane things by quote unquote asking questions.

00:39:04.000 The thing is, however, as for Candace and many of these other people that are questioning the assassination of Charlie Kirk, is they're asking questions about things that aren't actually things that have ever happened.

00:39:13.000 They seem to be just making Egyptian planes.

00:39:17.000 Why are there so many Egyptian planes flying around? 0.95

00:39:19.000 Can someone answer this?

00:39:20.000 No, because it's not real.

00:39:22.000 And so when you ask that, and then someone asks for an answer on the Egyptian planes and you explain to them it never happened, they don't believe you.

00:39:28.000 They say, no, I don't know.

00:39:30.000 There's been debunk after debunk after debunk.

00:39:32.000 But what do you do when you have large factions of people who don't know what's going on lining up in this weird, in this weird world and dragging everybody down with them?

00:39:42.000 Usually make better, make a louder, more bright thing for them to look at so that you can realign them and show them the path forward.

00:39:49.000 I think because these people, madness, they talk about madness.

00:39:52.000 Do people experience, I've gone mad.

00:39:54.000 Like, it's kind of funny.

00:39:55.000 It's cliche because it's such a small, but madness is when you're sad or you're in pain and you're confused.

00:40:01.000 When you're hurting and you don't know why.

00:40:03.000 And that's what happened when Charlie was killed.

00:40:05.000 Candace devolved into madness. 1.00

00:40:06.000 I've been watching it for three months.

00:40:08.000 She's been scrabbling, trying to figure out why.

00:40:10.000 She wants to know why because she's been confused.

00:40:12.000 No, Ian, that's wrong.

00:40:15.000 Well, tell me how.

00:40:16.000 Okay, I'll say things that I probably shouldn't say, but I'm going to say, because I always get super heated on this.

00:40:21.000 Candace Owens has the same security team as Turning Point and Charlie Kirk did.

00:40:27.000 She's lying.

00:40:28.000 She has the same security people.

00:40:30.000 I've been digging into this.

00:40:31.000 I've been meeting with people and talking with them.

00:40:32.000 And I shouldn't say too much because there's more that's going to be coming out soon.

00:40:35.000 Because rest assured, people are filing legal paperwork against her. 0.89

00:40:38.000 Candace has the same security team or has used the same security companies and the same security personnel as Charlie and Erica did. 0.71

00:40:45.000 So when she comes out and is questioning them, she is lying outright.

00:40:50.000 Now, I've invited many of these people to come on.

00:40:52.000 We'll see what happens.

00:40:53.000 We'll see when they can.

00:40:55.000 The issue is the moment Candace goes on her show to millions of people and lies, litigation begins. 1.00

00:41:01.000 And what happens when litigation begins?

00:41:03.000 People don't do interviews about it.

00:41:05.000 She is exploiting this, and she knows she is, to keep people wrapped up in this insanity. 0.97

00:41:11.000 Then there might be a middle ground here because it is insane.

00:41:13.000 And Candace.

00:41:15.000 Maybe she's lying, but it doesn't.

00:41:17.000 Maybe she hasn't gone mad in some sense.

00:41:18.000 And I think a lot of, that's why I don't know.

00:41:20.000 She outed her own lawyers. 1.00

00:41:23.000 She said Egyptian planes were landing at airports where black government SUVs were driving to an address in Delaware, and then she read the address to her own lawyers.

00:41:32.000 She does not vet anything she's talking about.

00:41:35.000 There was a leaked video that came out.

00:41:37.000 Steven Crowder put this out.

00:41:39.000 It is a meeting at the Daily Wire where Jeremy Boring is explaining why they are severing ties with Candace Owens.

00:41:46.000 And one of the things he said was that when he sat down with her, she said, I believe, Candace says this, what the people believe.

00:41:53.000 That's it.

00:41:55.000 She's outright saying she doesn't care what's true and she doesn't believe anything.

00:42:00.000 She is going to say whatever people want her to say so she gets traffic and gets clicks.

00:42:05.000 That's why she flips around and she has this lost-esque podcast that never concludes a single thought.

00:42:10.000 Now, guess what, ladies and gentlemen?

00:42:12.000 What did she just tweet two or three days ago?

00:42:15.000 That we think Tyler Robinson didn't act alone.

00:42:19.000 But hold on a minute, Ian.

00:42:21.000 You said she wasn't lying, but who's that?

00:42:23.000 No, no, she already said Tyler Robinson didn't do it.

00:42:25.000 So why is she now saying he didn't do it alone?

00:42:28.000 You think she's telling you the truth?

00:42:30.000 I don't know.

00:42:31.000 She's lying to her personally.

00:42:33.000 And Milo played this game where he said, you're doing mind reading. 0.76

00:42:36.000 No, no, that applies to Donald Trump being a bloviating blowhard when he says things that are not true.

00:42:42.000 And then we're asking, did he actually know that?

00:42:44.000 Or is he just saying things because he just does it?

00:42:46.000 Because he's wrong.

00:42:46.000 Right.

00:42:48.000 You can be wrong.

00:42:49.000 When Candace insinuates the security team that tended to Charlie Kirk didn't provide aid or were in on it and she hired those very same people, she's lying.

00:43:01.000 Now, I will say this.

00:43:03.000 I will say this.

00:43:05.000 I have spoken with security sources who have informed me of this.

00:43:10.000 We will see what this turns into.

00:43:12.000 And I am working on getting these people to come on the show to explain all of this.

00:43:16.000 But one thing I want to add for everybody out there who doesn't know this, there is one big company that does security for everybody.

00:43:24.000 I forgot the name of it.

00:43:25.000 And we always get asked if we use them.

00:43:27.000 We don't.

00:43:28.000 But there's one company that does security for basically everybody.

00:43:31.000 So this has come up before.

00:43:32.000 I'm the first one to bring it up.

00:43:34.000 But I recently had a conversation, and there are people right now, and there are moves being made because Candace is overtly lying. 0.96

00:43:42.000 So it'll be interesting when it comes out who these security guys are and who she's and who she has worked with to then make claims about them.

00:43:51.000 It is possible that she is can't, I don't, you know, I try not to talk about people behind their back.

00:43:56.000 Candace, if you were here, it'd be easier to say this to your face. 1.00

00:43:58.000 It's possible that you're a lying grifter piece of shit and you always have been. 1.00

00:44:02.000 It's possible. 1.00

00:44:03.000 I don't know.

00:44:03.000 I saw some humanity in you.

00:44:04.000 I think you really love Charlie.

00:44:06.000 And this is the same thing.

00:44:08.000 Why was she going around telling people she hated him?

00:44:10.000 I don't know.

00:44:10.000 I don't know, man.

00:44:11.000 Did you see she loved him and he rebuffed you, Candace?

00:44:14.000 Maybe you loved him and he didn't want to be with you.

00:44:16.000 was going around in the months before assassination privately telling people how much she hated him all i know is this is what's really unfortunate about this is we're watching a renaissance right now in this country watching real change happen that's never happened before We're seeing a government moving quickly to right a bunch of wrongs that have been piled upon us.

00:44:41.000 And whether you want to call it the right, conservatives, Republican, whatever, it's a movement, right?

00:44:46.000 And this is something I deal with, you know, if I'm like, you know, one of the voices of the medical freedom movement, all the infighting and all these talking about, you know, is it controlled opposition?

00:44:55.000 Oh, is Candace controlled opposition?

00:44:57.000 And I get, I've been called controlled opposition.

00:44:59.000 I mean, I always say, whether or not you're a controlled opposition, if you're acting like it, this is tearing apart a movement right now.

00:45:06.000 And I think we all have to check in with ourselves.

00:45:08.000 Our desire for drama, our desire to have like this, you know, Kim Kardashian experience or real housewives moment or Charlie's really not, you know, we want to bring down, you know, those that did great things.

00:45:20.000 Charlie Kirk did amazing things.

00:45:22.000 I mean, I worked very closely with him in helping.

00:45:24.000 He was great in helping me get Bobby Kennedy with Donald Trump and bringing all that together.

00:45:29.000 And to think that, you know, if you got Maha movement is a powerful movement.

00:45:34.000 It's going to be huge in the midterms.

00:45:35.000 But Charlie's ability to reach the young people and college students was this other powerful factor.

00:45:41.000 These two groups, Bobby, you know, Maha and Charlie and the work at Turning Point, I think are why Donald Trump is in the position that he's in.

00:45:48.000 And I would say, why would anyone's motivation be to tear down any one of these movements right now?

00:45:53.000 Even there's always problems.

00:45:55.000 There's always bad leadership.

00:45:56.000 There's also always bad people in and around.

00:45:58.000 You're trying to clean them out when you're doing the work yourself.

00:46:01.000 But this is so detrimental to such a powerful movement.

00:46:04.000 And it's undermining now where the kids should have been in college campuses having debate with Charlie Kirk brought to this. 0.99

00:46:12.000 Candace Owens is just turning this into a disgusting, you know, mud wrestling, you know, shitfest. 1.00

00:46:21.000 It's really, I'm sure the money is great, but not, I don't know what her motivations are. 0.98

00:46:26.000 I just am always trying to speak to the people.

00:46:28.000 Don't follow people that tear us apart.

00:46:30.000 Like, you know, maybe they're having a bad day.

00:46:32.000 Maybe she's off a rocker.

00:46:34.000 She might even have the truth, but what good is it doing?

00:46:34.000 I don't know.

00:46:37.000 Even if it was true, what good is it doing?

00:46:40.000 It's tearing apart great work that's been done and kids and students that believe in an idea.

00:46:45.000 What is true?

00:46:46.000 You said, even if it's true, what?

00:46:48.000 I mean, even, I mean, even if whatever she's saying, she's never said anything.

00:46:51.000 She's never said anything.

00:46:53.000 Every single thing she does asks a question about something that's unrelated.

00:46:56.000 She's never concluded anything.

00:46:58.000 Except that Charlie Kirk was betrayed by Turning Point.

00:46:58.000 Yeah.

00:47:00.000 What does that even mean?

00:47:01.000 When you come out and say, clearly she's insinuating that Turning Point killed Charlie, she goes, I never said that.

00:47:06.000 Yeah.

00:47:06.000 But they betrayed it.

00:47:08.000 Even if someone says something that's true, but they use the truth in a way to divide and destroy a movement that's actually helping us, then that person that's speaking that truth is bad for society in that moment.

00:47:08.000 What does that mean?

00:47:18.000 And you should avoid that truth right now.

00:47:21.000 That can happen.

00:47:22.000 Some truths are not, it's not time, you know?

00:47:24.000 I completely disagree.

00:47:25.000 It's not always time to say what you're thinking that's real.

00:47:28.000 No, I think people should always tell the truth.

00:47:31.000 With discernment.

00:47:32.000 Like for security clearance issues, you don't reveal certain information.

00:47:35.000 If someone gets killed the next day, you don't go out and say, this is how I feel about that person.

00:47:38.000 And these are all the things they said to me.

00:47:41.000 I suppose you can have timing on your feelings.

00:47:45.000 And we're talking about the idea of like a white lie.

00:47:47.000 The idea is don't call your wife fat because you don't want to hurt her feelings.

00:47:51.000 We're not talking about that.

00:47:52.000 We're talking about a coalition that is fighting against very, very dangerous forces.

00:47:57.000 Mask mandates, lockdowns, mandated medications.

00:48:02.000 And the Republicans have not been great, but they've been better.

00:48:07.000 And I will take speed bump for the machine state over voting for the machine state.

00:48:12.000 And Candace will take throwing a stick of dynamite at the speed bump, allowing the machine state to carry on at full speed.

00:48:20.000 Yeah, I mean, well, Candace fundamentally, she's, in my opinion, I don't know you guys may disagree, but in my opinion, she's downstream from the larger issue, which is the incentive structure that has been set up and polemics, quite frankly, because Tim makes this point all the time is that political commentary in many ways is dead because it's just about how can you generate the most unbelievable narratives, that sort of thing.

00:48:43.000 Hard-hitting reporting, analysis, these sorts of things, these are boring people.

00:48:47.000 You need to shock and all and these sorts of things.

00:48:50.000 So all Candace is fundamentally doing here, among other things, is just responding to the incentive structures that are currently set up in political commentary. 1.00

00:48:57.000 I'll put it like this.

00:48:58.000 I consider where we are right now the offseason.

00:49:01.000 That's how we describe it.

00:49:02.000 It's the holiday season.

00:49:03.000 So it's the offseason for the year.

00:49:04.000 And then we're after a presidential election.

00:49:06.000 So there's no big politics happening right now.

00:49:09.000 Political and news shows are not the forefront.

00:49:12.000 Currently, we have around 40,000 people watching concurrent viewers.

00:49:16.000 10 months ago, we had 80.

00:49:18.000 So our concurrent viewership is much lower today.

00:49:21.000 Likely, again, to the holidays, but also who cares about politics at this moment?

00:49:24.000 Candace is having a renaissance herself. 0.88

00:49:27.000 How?

00:49:28.000 Look, if you want to increase viewership, you have to create the interest.

00:49:34.000 And if we just talk about what is, people eventually say, I get it, I get it.

00:49:38.000 When the elections are coming up, I'll pay more attention.

00:49:41.000 Candace goes, Bridget McCrone's a man. 0.99

00:49:44.000 They're trying to kill me.

00:49:45.000 Israel's taking over and Charlie was killed by the French Foreign Legion.

00:49:48.000 It's like just throwing the most psychotic things out there because it will get you those views at a time when people aren't really that interested.

00:49:57.000 When has Candace ever really talked about politics?

00:50:00.000 She dances around political people and talks about drama, but she's not talking about politics.

00:50:06.000 She was at the Daily Wire, she did.

00:50:07.000 Yes, but I'm talking about, well, fair enough.

00:50:09.000 But since she started her own show, she hasn't been a political person.

00:50:13.000 She's been a drama person.

00:50:15.000 She's been talking about, you know, nothing that she's been talking about is actually about policy.

00:50:20.000 She hasn't brought up any kind of, I don't think she talks about the border or any kind of political issue at all.

00:50:26.000 It's all about drama.

00:50:29.000 Here's the game she plays. 0.94

00:50:30.000 It doesn't work with an audience like the one that we have, which is higher brow news discerning individuals who are trying to fill in the gaps for things they largely know about and get the latest information up to date.

00:50:42.000 But for a general audience, you can make a real interesting show by saying something like, I heard Israeli planes have been flying around Candace's house, flying around her house.

00:50:53.000 Why?

00:50:55.000 What's Candace doing with Israel? 1.00

00:50:57.000 Why is she doing that? 1.00

00:50:59.000 You start saying things like that, and what happens?

00:51:01.000 People go out and they go, whoa, why is Candace working with Israel? 0.98

00:51:04.000 I never said that.

00:51:06.000 I never even said that it was true.

00:51:07.000 I just said I heard from who?

00:51:09.000 There was a bum in the alley on my way here who was screaming about it.

00:51:12.000 I heard it.

00:51:12.000 Now I can say it, and she can't sue me.

00:51:14.000 This is the game that she's playing.

00:51:16.000 And for regular people, they're entertained by it.

00:51:18.000 But it is some of the most dangerous and vile political content there could be.

00:51:24.000 That is, if you want to talk about Sasquatch, I really don't care.

00:51:27.000 If you want to claim that UFOs came and abducted your grandma and replaced her with Sasquatch, that sounds actually pretty funny. 1.00

00:51:32.000 I'd listen to that.

00:51:33.000 But if you're altering the voting patterns of people so that the machine state can take back over and do the things they did to us and engage in the evil they engaged in, I got problems with that.

00:51:44.000 I'm always amazed who keeps listening to someone that never finishes.

00:51:48.000 I mean, I dealt with this a little bit with Bobby and the Olivia Nootsy story, which she kept, Candace kept saying, I've got the facts.

00:51:55.000 I'm dropping them on dropping tomorrow.

00:51:56.000 Here it comes.

00:51:57.000 Never came.

00:51:57.000 Here it comes.

00:51:58.000 You know, how does our audience put up with that?

00:52:01.000 I mean, I don't even understand that.

00:52:02.000 Like, if you've never done that, it's lost.

00:52:04.000 The goods.

00:52:05.000 It's just lost.

00:52:07.000 They're just caught up in the never-ending story.

00:52:10.000 You've got lost.

00:52:11.000 You've got from.

00:52:13.000 Have you heard of the show from?

00:52:14.000 No.

00:52:14.000 I am so offended by that show because even the name is lowbrow.

00:52:19.000 Like, lost still insinuates something.

00:52:22.000 It's like people are lost on an island.

00:52:24.000 They don't know what's going on.

00:52:25.000 Every episode was just random nothing.

00:52:27.000 Then you make the show from, and now it's like, it references literally nothing.

00:52:32.000 It's just doesn't mean anything.

00:52:33.000 And the show literally is meaningless.

00:52:35.000 And then my least favorite of all is Severance.

00:52:38.000 It's another one of these shows.

00:52:39.000 And it's funny when I talk to people about it.

00:52:41.000 And they're like, this is not a mystery box show.

00:52:42.000 I'm like, then what were the sheep for?

00:52:43.000 The lambs.

00:52:44.000 What was the room full of lambs for?

00:52:46.000 It's all nothing.

00:52:46.000 Answer the question.

00:52:49.000 So that's why we're going to wrap up every Timcast IRL now with a cliffhanger to make people yearning to come back for more.

00:52:57.000 So just don't forget, every time the show ends, we need to make a lot.

00:53:01.000 We should choose a random noise.

00:53:03.000 Just like a random noise of some loud car crash or a clown or a shrieking woman.

00:53:10.000 And then we'll go, oh my God.

00:53:12.000 And you'll play a noise of like dogs barking.

00:53:13.000 And we'll go, oh, and then we'll just turn the show off.

00:53:15.000 And then everyone's going to be like, oh, man, tune in next time to Timcast IRL to see what happened.

00:53:19.000 I think we did a show where it was all empty chairs and it got more views.

00:53:23.000 It had like 50,000 live viewers just watching an empty studio.

00:53:26.000 Well, that was because we got swatted.

00:53:27.000 Yeah, we all exited the building, but we left the show running for like an hour.

00:53:30.000 And it was so people love the drama.

00:53:33.000 They're like, I want to see if they come back.

00:53:34.000 I want to know what's happening.

00:53:35.000 And then the police walked in with the dog and walked around and everybody was the viewership was going up.

00:53:41.000 That's the human brain.

00:53:42.000 They want to know.

00:53:43.000 I don't know.

00:53:43.000 There's definitely some mammalian thing in there.

00:53:46.000 Let's talk about this.

00:53:47.000 We got this story from the AV Club.

00:53:49.000 The trailer for Andy Serkis's Animal Farm won't help you with your book report.

00:53:53.000 The trailer for Andy Circus's animated adaptation of Animal Farm gets stranger as it goes.

00:53:59.000 In its defense, even as Portugal, the bands feel it still blares over the soundtrack.

00:54:03.000 We can see the bones of Orwell's novella within the updates.

00:54:07.000 The pigs reject slaughter, run off their farmer, and briefly find peace.

00:54:10.000 Okay, here's the point.

00:54:12.000 Angel Studios has acquired distribution rights for a film called Animal Farm.

00:54:16.000 And the reason I say it's called Animal Farm, because it has almost nothing to do with the book, Animal Farm, which was allegory for the rise of Stalin and the faults of communism.

00:54:26.000 This movie is about communists who succeed until an evil capitalist corrupts some of the pigs and then weasels their way back in.

00:54:36.000 And it's the capitalism that disrupts the communist utopia.

00:54:40.000 And mark my words, I'm willing to bet the end of this film, the communist animals will succeed and have their successful communist utopia. 0.92

00:54:49.000 This is actually reminiscent of a tweet that I saw, and I don't know if it was because of this show coming out or what, but there was a guy that was saying, actually, the original meaning of Animal Farm was that capitalism is bad because the pigs become like the farmer.

00:55:06.000 And so it's actually a critique of capitalism.

00:55:08.000 It's not a critique of socialism, which is totally retconning.

00:55:11.000 Even what's his name?

00:55:14.000 I forget the guy that wrote it.

00:55:15.000 George Orwell.

00:55:16.000 Even Orwell wrote that this was specifically a critique of communism, a critique of Stalinism, and how the corrupting, you know, the corrupting feature of Stalinism is the people that are in power become better than all of the rest of the people.

00:55:16.000 Orwell.

00:55:33.000 There's never a true communist utopia, and it can't ever happen.

00:55:37.000 But that fact is totally lost on this, it seems like it's totally lost on this new show because this is just going to totally spin the meaning of the original story.

00:55:49.000 Communism generally devolves into Vanguardism, which is what happens in Animal Farm.

00:55:53.000 They say, hey, we're all in this together.

00:55:54.000 And then a small group of them take over, and they are capitalists, those guys.

00:55:58.000 They're oligarchs, and they trade with the people in the other farms that you don't ever see in the book. 0.99

00:56:02.000 So you might want to blame, hey, they're capitalists, those pigs. 0.95

00:56:04.000 No, they used communism, the idea of communism, to trick people into allowing their vanguard to take totalitarian control. 0.97

00:56:11.000 That's what that book is about.

00:56:13.000 And yes, of course they served in the capitalist monetary system.

00:56:16.000 Why wouldn't you at that point?

00:56:17.000 It's the best, at least worst system we have.

00:56:20.000 Yeah, I think that the different opinion on what the Vanguard is because the Vanguard was, according to Lenin, the Vanguard was necessary to show basically the plebs that you need to have the socialist utopia ushered in. 0.79

00:56:40.000 The Vanguard were a small minority that made everybody, basically made everybody else become communist. 0.89

00:56:45.000 Those are the pigs in the book. 0.99

00:56:48.000 Okay. 0.99

00:56:49.000 All right.

00:56:50.000 The communists.

00:56:51.000 So this is, once again, we're on track for, I'll put it this way, like every villain in every media is just Hitler.

00:56:59.000 You know, not literally all the time, but most of the bad guys are always one-dimensional, and they try to have it be some kind of like supremacy problem.

00:57:07.000 When you actually have media that would be great to show young people communism is bad, they turn it into capitalist bad.

00:57:15.000 And some of the critiques are that the billionaire seems to be driving a cyber truck.

00:57:19.000 Uh-huh.

00:57:20.000 And the story now, apparently, is that a big evil corporation runs factory farms for profit, and the animals are going to be slaughtered, fight back, and take over and create a utopia where they get to sell their own services.

00:57:32.000 The animals then begin selling their services to humans who are interested.

00:57:36.000 And there's a scene where a chicken takes money from a human.

00:57:38.000 They're like, yay.

00:57:40.000 Then the evil corporation tries to take the farm back and corrupts the pigs.

00:57:46.000 The point is, they have taken a book that is explicitly anti-communist and turned it into purely anti-capitalist because communists run Hollywood.

00:57:55.000 It sounds like they're identifying problems in corporatocracy, which is interesting.

00:57:58.000 Not what Animal Farm really was about, but the farmer was like the corporate autocrat.

00:58:03.000 And so the corporatocracy is very dangerous.

00:58:05.000 It's one of the downfalls of capitalism is unchecked.

00:58:08.000 Corporations can become their own governments and have their own territory and militaries.

00:58:12.000 So you got to find a middle ground between pure corporatocracy and pure communist.

00:58:18.000 Well, not pure, you know, totalitarian, I guess you call it vanguardist, because real communism cannot feasibly exist, as far as I can tell.

00:58:26.000 Do you think Angel Studios just didn't do any research into this and acquired the rights because they thought it was actually Animal Farm?

00:58:32.000 I mean, that's kind of what I would hope because I would hope that Angel Studios wouldn't put this out if it's basically retconning Animal Farm.

00:58:40.000 You know, the story in Animal Farm was pretty clear, and it was a great critique of communism, you know, and Stalinism more to the point.

00:58:50.000 But to retcon it and allow the story to create a pro-communist message to be twisted, it's exactly for kids.

00:58:57.000 It's just we're in Las Vegas right now, of course, as everybody knows.

00:59:02.000 And I've been hearing a lot about how Vegas is dying.

00:59:05.000 And year over year, tourism is down and just general attendance to shows and things like that.

00:59:11.000 And I don't actually think it's because people don't want to go to Vegas.

00:59:14.000 We had talked about this, and I was like, maybe it's probably because they're opening casinos everywhere.

00:59:18.000 Why go to Vegas when you've got a casino down the street from you, right?

00:59:20.000 I actually think it's because there's no kids.

00:59:22.000 I think it's because we are in a major fertility crisis and population is shrinking.

00:59:27.000 So everything population related is going to shrink too.

00:59:30.000 And it's going to shrink in these associated ways.

00:59:32.000 I bring this up because I don't know how concerned I am with them making a kids movie for people who don't exist, right? 1.00

00:59:39.000 Yeah, right.

00:59:40.000 No kids to watch it.

00:59:42.000 We have many other problems with our country.

00:59:46.000 And that is what's going to happen next year as we're entering our, technically, it's the second full year of no new labor market entrants, or I should say minimal.

00:59:58.000 So we talked about how last year, actually, no, yeah, I think 2025.

01:00:04.000 So this year, was supposed to be the year that 2007 finally hit.

01:00:10.000 Financial crisis happens, nobody has kids.

01:00:13.000 18 years later, we don't have kids entering universities.

01:00:15.000 We don't have kids entering the job market.

01:00:18.000 So now, of course, the Democrats are like, open the borders and flood the country with new people who are going to fill these roles, but you can't because those 18-year-olds were going to be going to college for specialty degrees.

01:00:28.000 You can't replace management education and training with Honduran farmers. 1.00

01:00:37.000 So now, with Trump and the deportations, I don't even know where we go next year in terms of property values, the economy in general.

01:00:45.000 I think the economy is very, very bad right now.

01:00:48.000 And I think it's reflected in ad rates across the board on YouTube, which in December should be massive.

01:00:54.000 And they're not.

01:00:55.000 They're stagnant.

01:00:56.000 And this means that small businesses are not advertising.

01:01:02.000 Yeah.

01:01:02.000 I mean, I don't have any way to poke holes in that theory.

01:01:06.000 You know, it is true that a lot of people have been putting off having kids for so long.

01:01:11.000 I mean, I'm 50 and I just had my first kid.

01:01:13.000 So what do you do?

01:01:15.000 What do you do if next year the market's going to implode?

01:01:17.000 Buy a house after it employed.

01:01:19.000 Is it gold?

01:01:20.000 Put your crypto.

01:01:21.000 I can't, this isn't advice, but you put your crypto, you would put your crypto in like Tether and hold like a stable coin.

01:01:27.000 So when the value of Bitcoin goes down $40,000, you buy the Bitcoin back and you basically double your money.

01:01:33.000 But if gold is at $4,342, that's crazy.

01:01:40.000 That's a lot of money.

01:01:41.000 I mean, when I first moved down to West Virginia to start coming on the show, I was buying gold coins at $2,000 a piece.

01:01:48.000 Yeah.

01:01:49.000 Like, what was it trading at five years ago?

01:01:51.000 Five years.

01:01:51.000 It was like 2000.

01:01:53.000 Gosh, it stayed very stable from like 2000.

01:01:56.000 Look at that.

01:01:57.000 12 to it was 18.

01:01:59.000 1800, right?

01:02:00.000 And that was with the COVID instability.

01:02:03.000 Oh, yeah.

01:02:04.000 Look at this, dude.

01:02:05.000 2016 was 1,000.

01:02:06.000 Yeah.

01:02:08.000 That's wild.

01:02:09.000 2020 was crazy.

01:02:11.000 Well, it's 2020, we printed a boatload.

01:02:13.000 The price, it's the last year of Biden, really.

01:02:18.000 The last year of Biden, it went from 2,000 to 3,000.

01:02:22.000 And now Trump's been for a year.

01:02:24.000 It's skyrocketing.

01:02:25.000 I don't think people realize how cooked we are.

01:02:28.000 Year was the first year that we started that we had to start paying a thousand or I'm sorry, a trillion dollars in interest debt and interest payments last year.

01:02:35.000 So I think that I honestly think that the number, the $1 trillion in interest payments per year to service our debt, I think that that kind of started resonating with people.

01:02:45.000 That number, they were like, whoa, silver is at $64. 0.94

01:02:49.000 Holy crap.

01:02:51.000 I think that resonated with people and they were like, wow, I need to go ahead and save my money on something that's not going to lose value the way that everything else had. 0.97

01:02:59.000 Bro, this is crazy.

01:03:01.000 63.

01:03:01.000 Silver peaked at 65 on Friday.

01:03:06.000 This is a lot of money for nuts.

01:03:08.000 Yeah, I've been like, what technology, what could we do that would really heal things?

01:03:11.000 And I think of plumbing.

01:03:12.000 I'm like, okay, what technology helps everybody?

01:03:14.000 Plumbing helped everybody.

01:03:15.000 We actually, we mentioned this on the green room earlier.

01:03:18.000 You were like, that was like the greatest technology of the 20th century was plumbing.

01:03:21.000 So the roads, that's our like sociological plumbing.

01:03:24.000 We can fix the roads, which is particularly thousand libertarians when you start brought up the roads.

01:03:28.000 The roads are going to be.

01:03:28.000 Well, I'm going to put graphene in the asphalt so they're going to last one and a half times longer.

01:03:33.000 And that will then help the economy because less construction means more time for trucks to get their goods to the business.

01:03:41.000 What about the people that won't be working on the roads right now?

01:03:43.000 I mean, if there's always people fixing the roads, there's always economic activity paying the people to fix the roads.

01:03:49.000 I think some people will lose their job, but the cost benefit will be higher.

01:03:54.000 Like the value of having a more robust transportation system outweighs the loss of those people out there pouring asphalt and stuff.

01:04:02.000 Well, yeah, in theory, too, when the population retracts, then labor becomes more valuable.

01:04:06.000 If therefore, people's labor demands more in the market.

01:04:09.000 But the big problem in the West is that we've been backfilling the losses in population with immigration. 0.94

01:04:14.000 So this is why the Trump administration is going to be a really interesting test for economists because it'd be the first time where the labor market will properly retract.

01:04:20.000 We won't have as many working-age adults introduced into the economy. 0.81

01:04:23.000 Therefore, in theory, Americans will have more money in their pockets to spend.

01:04:28.000 It's all going to be one big test, like you were saying.

01:04:30.000 I mean, debt interest payments hit a trillion.

01:04:33.000 Our military budget's a trillion.

01:04:34.000 So we're already paying our military budget's worth.

01:04:36.000 It's 10% of America's GDP.

01:04:39.000 There's other countries that have a similar interest to GDP ratio: Canada, Italy, unfortunately, Argentina, which probably doesn't put us in great standing, but it's true.

01:04:49.000 I mean, we'll see.

01:04:51.000 We'll see as the labor market retracts.

01:04:53.000 I'm going to tell you how crazy things are.

01:04:55.000 So I just pull this up on Google.

01:04:56.000 Top 1% salary.

01:04:58.000 It says to be in the top 1% of U.S. earners in 2025, you generally need over $700,000 to nearly $1.1 million annually, depending heavily on the state.

01:05:09.000 With cost to areas like Connecticut, Massachusetts, and California requiring the most, around a million, the national average is closer to $731,000, but varies.

01:05:17.000 So they say maybe $731 to about $794,000.

01:05:22.000 Five years ago, it was about $500,000.

01:05:24.000 10 years ago, it was about $375,000.

01:05:28.000 This is not that people are making more money and succeeding.

01:05:33.000 It is that we are experiencing rapid inflation.

01:05:36.000 I'm going to say hyperinflation because it's a literal term, but inflation is absolutely insane over the past five years that we are now looking at in order to be the top 1%, your salary must be doubled.

01:05:48.000 They are not saying the 1% are doing better than ever.

01:05:51.000 They're saying your money is worth nothing.

01:05:54.000 Your buying power is gone.

01:05:56.000 Right.

01:05:56.000 Well, that's where they're like 7% inflation.

01:05:58.000 And everyone that makes 15 bucks an hour is looking at the McChicken go from $1 to $4 in like five years.

01:06:03.000 And they're saying, well, even if it's 7% on the whole, in the places where it matters to me, that's where my wallet's being hit and people are feeling the pinch.

01:06:10.000 And then you look at numbers like this, where it's skyrocketing.

01:06:13.000 I mean, it's getting rough out there.

01:06:15.000 I think there have been a lot of predictions that we're going to face a major market crash next year.

01:06:21.000 I don't know if you've heard anything like that, but it looks mathematically like it's going to happen within the next two years.

01:06:27.000 Yeah.

01:06:28.000 And you know, they say that like every eight to 10 years is a major crash.

01:06:33.000 You can look at the market.

01:06:35.000 And I don't know how you sustain these housing prices.

01:06:39.000 They're absolutely insane right now.

01:06:41.000 And these salary numbers.

01:06:44.000 You know, it freaks me out when I come to somewhere like Vegas or go to these casinos, and I'm wondering how it is that people can spend the money they spend.

01:06:51.000 We were actually at the MGM a couple weeks ago in Maryland.

01:06:55.000 And I can't remember who I was saying out with.

01:06:57.000 It might have been Brandon.

01:07:00.000 But I was saying, I was looking around all these people.

01:07:02.000 I'm like, how can these people afford to gamble like this?

01:07:04.000 You know, they go to MGM and they got these table games where it's like three-card poker, for instance.

01:07:10.000 For those that don't know, it's $50 to play for your auntie.

01:07:13.000 They'll give you three cards.

01:07:15.000 Then you got to pay $50 again to see the dealer's card, see if you win.

01:07:18.000 Then they got bonus bets, which is they've got the pair bonus and the six-card bonus, and that's $50 as well.

01:07:26.000 So if you're playing a full hand of this, you're looking about $250, $200, $250.

01:07:31.000 And I'm like, who is sitting at this table with $10,000 to play consistently this amount of money?

01:07:36.000 How does it make sense?

01:07:37.000 I think it was Brandon who pointed out that there's like 8% of the U.S. population are millionaires.

01:07:43.000 One in 10 or something like that.

01:07:44.000 One in 10.

01:07:45.000 And then I realized it's not that they're millionaires.

01:07:49.000 It's that they're just middle class.

01:07:52.000 It used to be that middle class people had disposable income and would go to casinos and play games and be like, well, you know, now the wealthy are being called wealthy, but their buying power is like these people that we are looking at, they might make like 300K a year.

01:08:08.000 So they're pulling in, you know, 20, maybe like 17, 1800 taxes or whatever every month.

01:08:13.000 And they only need about 10, so they have a couple grand.

01:08:15.000 And then they go to the casino once every few months, maybe, and they play a grand or two or something like that because they have disposable income.

01:08:21.000 Now, like we look at these people and we look at them as wealthy.

01:08:26.000 Basically what I'm saying is it is skewing so dramatically from poor to rich.

01:08:30.000 The divide is getting so massive that what was once the middle class now looks to be the wealthy elites.

01:08:35.000 Yeah.

01:08:35.000 I just saw something today that said that Elon Musk is the first person ever to be worth $600 billion.

01:08:43.000 And it's a big number, but he's worth that much money, not just because he's got valuable companies, but because the dollar has been losing value for so long.

01:08:54.000 You know, Andrew Tate has actually a pretty good video on this where he explains wealth.

01:08:59.000 And he said, if you know how much money you have, you're poor.

01:09:02.000 He said, rich people don't know how much money they have.

01:09:05.000 He was like, he goes, for me, I've got $50 million in a stock account.

01:09:09.000 I don't even know what it's worth.

01:09:10.000 And if I can even take it out, it's just there.

01:09:11.000 And I don't know what the number is.

01:09:12.000 So it's like, I don't even know how much money I have.

01:09:14.000 My investments are all over the place.

01:09:16.000 My properties are various values.

01:09:18.000 I don't even know.

01:09:18.000 And he's like, so if you open your bank account and you know how much money you have, you're not rich.

01:09:22.000 And that's basically what he's describing.

01:09:24.000 So when you mention, you know, Elon Musk and 600 billion, there's a certain level where you stop thinking of money as money.

01:09:30.000 Like, I'm saying like, we as people should look at someone like Elon and say, he's not rich.

01:09:34.000 He's just in charge.

01:09:35.000 Yeah.

01:09:36.000 He will never be poor.

01:09:38.000 He will never lose his money.

01:09:39.000 Nothing you can do about it so long as he's in the system.

01:09:42.000 And what that really means is not that he is rich.

01:09:45.000 It doesn't mean he can buy something.

01:09:46.000 It means he can do whatever he wants.

01:09:49.000 And not only that with his media reach, people will basically, most people, even those who claim to hate him, I bet if you went to them and said, oh, I have a million dollars of their name on it, if you just stop saying that, they'd be like, done.

01:09:59.000 Whatever you say, Elon.

01:10:01.000 That's what it means to have that kind of money.

01:10:03.000 Well, that's what Trump said famously.

01:10:04.000 He said, it's not even about the money.

01:10:06.000 It's about keeping score.

01:10:07.000 So it's like, it's true.

01:10:08.000 I mean, you have these like Saudi princes where who knows how much money they have.

01:10:11.000 Like, they probably are just like, I'm about three and a half Latvias worth.

01:10:14.000 Like, it's insane the amount of wealth that they have.

01:10:18.000 As far as your point with Zoomers and Casino, I think part of it is just because Zoomers are inherently really risk-averse for a variety of reasons.

01:10:27.000 That's why you see – They aren't risk-averse?

01:10:28.000 They aren't.

01:10:28.000 They are risk-averse.

01:10:29.000 Zoomers are gambling like crazy, bro. 1.00

01:10:32.000 It's not like traditional gambling, though.

01:10:34.000 It's a lot of sports gambling, these sorts of things.

01:10:37.000 But generally, temperamentally, they're very risk-averse.

01:10:39.000 Like, this is why the marriage rate's very low, among other reasons, is because it's just, it's a big lift to jump into something like that.

01:10:47.000 There's benefits.

01:10:48.000 The divorce rate's never been lower, which is an upside.

01:10:52.000 No, it's true.

01:10:52.000 Like, literally, the divorce rate has never been lower in the United States because Zoomers are so hesitant to get married that when they finally decide to get married, they're like, this is the one.

01:11:01.000 This has to be the one.

01:11:02.000 Yeah, but dude, Zoomers are gambling like crazy.

01:11:06.000 Maybe risk-avers, but they're gambling like crazy.

01:11:09.000 As far as like in casinos?

01:11:11.000 They're all trying to be gambling influencers.

01:11:14.000 Yeah, you have a set.

01:11:15.000 Yeah, you have a segment, but I think like among the general Zoomer population, they're just, you don't see them.

01:11:19.000 And this is, again, there's some benefits and there's also downsides is they're not, their alcohol consumption is down dramatically, nicotine consumption, a variety of factors, which just indicates, again, it's good and bad.

01:11:32.000 Like there was recently, there was this bust, I think it was like in Arizona, where the police came and they shut down this party that had like 800 Zoomers there because they're all underage drinking. 1.00

01:11:40.000 And everyone made the point, like, we're not celebrating underage drinking, but you also arrested the only Zoomers in the state of Arizona that like have any propensity to take on risk. 1.00

01:11:49.000 Or to actually engage in social activities.

01:11:51.000 That as well.

01:11:52.000 So it's like, that's part of the reason Zoomers are so atomized is because of the risk aversion because it's risky to go out in public. 0.99

01:11:57.000 Like you could make a fool of yourself. 0.96

01:11:58.000 Who knows? 0.99

01:11:59.000 These things happen, but that's like part of life.

01:12:00.000 And for a variety of reasons, I'll use the word people point out use this word too much, but it's because Zoomers didn't properly matriculate. 1.00

01:12:08.000 It's obvious.

01:12:08.000 I mean, my micro generation, which is like 99 to 04, became adults during COVID.

01:12:13.000 They didn't properly pick up on social cues, conventional ways of socializing, these sorts of things.

01:12:19.000 And as a result, you're just seeing people not really pushing for what they want in life because, again, they're just afraid of what if I fail.

01:12:26.000 So what does this country turn into then?

01:12:28.000 And I think this is a component of the hyperinflation.

01:12:31.000 I think I'm willing to bet a lot of this is we don't have the tax income anymore.

01:12:37.000 So the purpose of the income tax is not to fund services.

01:12:42.000 It's to offset inflation.

01:12:43.000 The U.S. government just prints money, takes on debt, and then taxes you to pay that down and pull money from the system.

01:12:51.000 Basically, it's a circuitous way of saying, yeah, they're taking your money so they can fund programs, but they're buying a deficit.

01:12:58.000 I think this inflation is very obvious.

01:13:00.000 Following the COVID lockdowns, they just pumped money in the system saying, if people have money, they'll buy stuff.

01:13:06.000 Well, we know what happens with inflation.

01:13:08.000 I think what we're looking at right now is without young people, without that tax base, the government is pumping money into a system that's not putting labor into the system.

01:13:17.000 So we are seeing massive inflation.

01:13:20.000 It's going to get a very difficult election cycle and probably for maybe even decades to come because I think you're right.

01:13:28.000 At this point, no one coming out of college thinks there's any future for them.

01:13:32.000 I mean, I'm trying to think of, I have a 17-year-old kid.

01:13:35.000 I got one more year with him in the house.

01:13:38.000 I've been really self-focused on my own career and what I'm doing.

01:13:40.000 And now all of a sudden I'm thinking, what am I supposed to tell you to start focusing on?

01:13:45.000 He wants to be a lawyer.

01:13:46.000 Lawyers are gone.

01:13:46.000 AI is going to wipe out lawyers.

01:13:50.000 It's also going to wipe out doctors. 1.00

01:13:51.000 All the good jobs are going to disappear.

01:13:53.000 But are you really going to, I mean, honestly, you can talk about it.

01:13:56.000 You can wipe.

01:13:57.000 Mike Rowe, I just did his podcast recently.

01:13:59.000 Great guy.

01:14:00.000 But when you're sitting there, am I going to tell my 17-year-old kid to take on like a blue-collar job?

01:14:04.000 Like go learn how to be a plumber or a carpenter?

01:14:07.000 I mean, are we, you know, it takes, I mean, you can say it.

01:14:11.000 You know that there's a future there.

01:14:12.000 You know, in some way, that's where this country's going.

01:14:15.000 But I'm the first generation that's looking at a kid.

01:14:17.000 Am I going to actually tell him that's what I want you to do?

01:14:20.000 That's what I think you should do.

01:14:21.000 Don't forget your brain.

01:14:22.000 You're doing great.

01:14:23.000 You got straight A's.

01:14:24.000 It didn't mean anything because that's going to take you nowhere.

01:14:26.000 We had Gary the Numbers guy on the show, was it like a week or two ago?

01:14:30.000 And a week ago.

01:14:31.000 And, you know, I know a lot of people goofed on him because the numerology stuff goes, they think it's silly, but he was right when he said AI is coming.

01:14:38.000 You got about three years to get your bag and then you're out.

01:14:41.000 And he's like, the rich are going to live in gated communities where they own and control things and the poor will never have a means of doing anything.

01:14:47.000 And it's not just about AI.

01:14:49.000 It's about population collapse.

01:14:50.000 You need new low-skill labor coming in, and we don't have it. 1.00

01:14:55.000 The Democrat solution was just open the borders.

01:14:58.000 The Republican solution is not talk about it, I guess.

01:15:01.000 Yeah.

01:15:02.000 Yeah.

01:15:03.000 I mean, you see, you see these moments of, it's actually kind of interesting.

01:15:07.000 You'll see throughout history these moments of intense innovation when people can sense that a great filter is sort of coming down.

01:15:15.000 Like a good example is like apartheid South Africa in the 80s.

01:15:18.000 You actually saw a lot of like technological development because people feared that when the regime was turned over, it was changed, that there would be this rift where the middle class would eviscerate and people would either retreat into gated communities or they would be in these kind of these slums or have to leave the country.

01:15:35.000 And this happens like throughout history.

01:15:36.000 And I think in the United States, you're seeing this great filter being set up where we're going to be atomized, upper class, and then the lower class.

01:15:42.000 There won't really be a middle class.

01:15:44.000 And that's causing people to, that's why you're seeing some of these get-rich schemes.

01:15:49.000 That's why you're seeing people scamming each other because I think a lot of people are that are paying attention are very keenly aware that the hammer is coming down.

01:15:56.000 Again, if the Trump administration is successful, then we won't have to deal with this.

01:16:00.000 But I don't know.

01:16:02.000 I think people are fully aware of what's coming.

01:16:04.000 I don't think there's a way.

01:16:06.000 There's no solution to this problem.

01:16:07.000 There is only preparing for what's going to come and then preparing how we resolve the next 20 years.

01:16:13.000 Well, I think there are solutions, though.

01:16:15.000 I think there are economic solutions.

01:16:18.000 Don't say graphene.

01:16:19.000 All right, let's start with this.

01:16:19.000 Material science.

01:16:20.000 There is a massive lack.

01:16:21.000 If you cut me off, you'll never hear the solution.

01:16:24.000 Right, so we're going to start with the premise of the conversation because I'm trying to make you don't derail.

01:16:27.000 That's the point.

01:16:28.000 I'm trying to solve the problem.

01:16:29.000 So the problem right now is a massive lack of entry-level training, trainees, and labor.

01:16:35.000 What is your proposed solution?

01:16:37.000 Import them. 0.97

01:16:38.000 So, okay, so the Democrat solution.

01:16:39.000 I'm open to that.

01:16:40.000 I'm open to the version of that.

01:16:41.000 Right.

01:16:41.000 Yeah.

01:16:42.000 So import menial labor if you need it.

01:16:44.000 That was stated.

01:16:45.000 Have more babies.

01:16:46.000 Right.

01:16:47.000 Having more babies won't actually solve the problem because it takes 18 years.

01:16:50.000 Import the labor.

01:16:51.000 If you drastically need human labor, you import the labor.

01:16:54.000 They used to attack countries and conquer them and take them because they needed them. 0.99

01:16:57.000 They're coming here free will.

01:16:58.000 They took them as slaves.

01:16:59.000 But it's also, let's, let's both.

01:17:02.000 But really.

01:17:03.000 Well, let's grant the argument even that there's no downsides to immigration.

01:17:07.000 Like it's literally just free labor.

01:17:08.000 Or slavery. 0.95

01:17:09.000 Sure, sure.

01:17:10.000 Let's just grant.

01:17:11.000 Let's grant that.

01:17:12.000 Let's say there's no societal implications or even other external economic factors.

01:17:16.000 The birth rate across the developing world is dropping precipitously as well.

01:17:20.000 Like Mali was at nine kids five years ago. 0.96

01:17:23.000 Now they're at like five.

01:17:24.000 India's gone sub-replacement. 0.97

01:17:25.000 So it's like at a certain point, we're going to have to look to technology to backfill labor because you can't, even if, again, you were to just grant every neoliberal argument about immigration, you're going to run out of people in the next 50 to 100 years to bring in anyway, just speaking like math-wise.

01:17:40.000 There is, there's a, what was the documentary called?

01:17:44.000 We talked about on the show.

01:17:45.000 It's called like the birth gap or something like that.

01:17:47.000 There is no civilization in the history of this planet that has recovered from a birth rate at this level.

01:17:52.000 The reason is once it goes underneath replacement, you cannot produce enough to get out of that hole.

01:18:00.000 So the civilization collapses and then people scatter and then slowly make a different civil, a different society or different civilization out of it.

01:18:08.000 Yeah.

01:18:09.000 So I don't know.

01:18:10.000 Maybe we all plug our brains in and eat the bugs and live in the pods.

01:18:13.000 Well, I'm not as black-pilled as some other people are about robotics and about basically AI and stuff like that.

01:18:21.000 I do think that there's going to be a lot, a lot of jobs that essentially robots are going to do.

01:18:27.000 And I'm talking about humanoid robots because we live in a humanoid-shaped world, right?

01:18:30.000 Like a man-shaped world.

01:18:32.000 It's the world that we've designed.

01:18:34.000 So the idea that right now your car can drive you places.

01:18:37.000 They're doing the Tesla taxis and they're doing the Waymos and stuff.

01:18:41.000 And of course, they're imperfect, but that technology is going to improve.

01:18:45.000 But when you have the ability to have a robot that costs you $30,000, $25,000, $30,000 or whatever, that can be trained to do something that a human can do now.

01:18:56.000 You're going to see a lot of companies that are going to say, I can buy this robot for $30,000, even if it's $50,000, right?

01:19:02.000 You're buying that robot for $50,000.

01:19:04.000 That's less than you're going to have to pay a human being to do it for a year, right?

01:19:07.000 So you make your money back in one year.

01:19:09.000 You're not going to have to pay health insurance for the robot.

01:19:12.000 Obviously, there might be repairs and stuff like that, but you can have robots do a lot of the jobs.

01:19:16.000 And I know a lot of people are like, oh, you know, you're just asking for Skynet and et cetera.

01:19:20.000 I don't think that that's the future that we're in for, but I do think that robotics will be able to do a lot of the things that humans do now.

01:19:28.000 And this is basically like whether you like them or not, this is basically the argument that Musk makes.

01:19:31.000 He's like, look, in the future, there's going to be some displacement and there's going to be growing pains to get to this point.

01:19:38.000 But in the future, you're going to have robots doing things that human beings do now.

01:19:43.000 And there's going to be a lot more free time for humans.

01:19:45.000 And I understand that there's the possibility of a crisis of meaning.

01:19:49.000 What are people going to do?

01:19:50.000 Because a lot of people keep them alive.

01:19:52.000 Like I've.

01:19:52.000 This argument blows my mind.

01:19:54.000 We're all going to sit around a lawn channel, smoking weed and video games, and then the elite 1% are going to get together once a while and say, I want to vote a raise to all the people that aren't working.

01:20:03.000 Because I've seen that happen throughout society for centuries.

01:20:07.000 And there's no way. 0.99

01:20:08.000 It's going to be a planet of useless eaters. 1.00

01:20:10.000 And that's how they're going to be seen. 0.99

01:20:12.000 I don't imagine.

01:20:13.000 And AI will be a part of the conversation of how quickly can we get rid of them because they're just draining on the system.

01:20:19.000 Like, I don't imagine.

01:20:20.000 Well, first of all, I don't think that the Earth can't support the number of people that we have.

01:20:25.000 And if we're talking about a birth crisis, right?

01:20:28.000 We're not having enough kids and that's global, then the problem of supporting human beings isn't actually a problem of tapping the resources or stressing the resources that the earth has.

01:20:40.000 There will actually be fewer human beings because we have had fewer children.

01:20:45.000 And again, I'm not saying that it's going to be without its growing pains or whatever, but I do think that a lot of the problems that we're seeing now or that we're concerned with can be filled by robots.

01:20:54.000 Well, yeah, the whole birth rate conversation has to be reframed because it's mostly focused around economics.

01:20:59.000 And I do agree that to a certain extent, like people aren't having kids because of housing prices, et cetera.

01:21:05.000 But there's countries like Hungary, Japan, South Korea who have incentivized people to have children with economic incentives.

01:21:13.000 Like Hungary, they'll buy you a minivan, they'll give you tax breaks, these sorts of things.

01:21:17.000 And it hasn't really moved the needle on the birth rate in any meaningful way.

01:21:21.000 So you really have to address, you have to address a crisis of meaning.

01:21:25.000 That's not to say that economics don't have an impact.

01:21:27.000 Like one of my favorite stats is that South Korea has a birth rate, I think like 1.2 around there.

01:21:32.000 In Seoul, it's like 0.6.

01:21:33.000 I mean, it's devastating.

01:21:34.000 And North Korea has a birth rate of 3.2.

01:21:36.000 So it's like, you also can't evaluate economics entirely because if you were to contrast and compare those two systems just from like the position of birth rates, you would conclude that the North Korean system is a better system.

01:21:48.000 It's obviously not true.

01:21:49.000 But at the same time, you do have to sort of address the deeper problems that cause the birth rates to go negative.

01:21:56.000 The most common stat, obviously, is that when women are educated at a certain level, the birth rate drops precipitously because they are able to enter the workforce. 0.61

01:22:03.000 They're able to provide an income for themselves.

01:22:05.000 So they lose the need for a male to be a provider.

01:22:09.000 But I think you even got to look at teen pregnancy.

01:22:10.000 I mean, sexuality is down, right?

01:22:13.000 I mean, we have an asexual society.

01:22:14.000 We're on the verge.

01:22:15.000 I mean, you talk to pediatricians.

01:22:17.000 There's kids that are coming in that aren't choosing any side.

01:22:20.000 They're just completely asexual. 0.66

01:22:21.000 So, I mean, this thing is chemical.

01:22:24.000 It's physical.

01:22:25.000 It's like it's not just housing prices and things like that.

01:22:28.000 I mean, our kids aren't even deciding to drive a car.

01:22:30.000 I mean, I can't believe it.

01:22:31.000 I have friends who's, you know, teenagers like 18, still don't have a driver's license.

01:22:35.000 Everyone in my generation, as soon as you could drive, you were the hell out of it.

01:22:39.000 Like never to be seen again.

01:22:41.000 And instead, they're living at home.

01:22:42.000 They're not going anywhere.

01:22:44.000 They're watching, you know, I guess they're playing video games and stuck on X and YouTube and living a life like they're not alive.

01:22:53.000 I looked up the top 1% over the past 15 years.

01:22:58.000 In 2010, $221,000 a year or higher puts you in the top 1%.

01:23:04.000 That's hard for me to believe.

01:23:06.000 That is.

01:23:06.000 That's kind of crazy.

01:23:07.000 1%.

01:23:08.000 But by 2012, it was 434.

01:23:10.000 These are the 2012.

01:23:12.000 By 2012.

01:23:14.000 So this is coming off of the $221,000 is probably because of the financial crisis.

01:23:20.000 Everybody lost their jobs.

01:23:21.000 Salaries plummeted.

01:23:22.000 But it remained somewhat stable, about half a million for several years.

01:23:26.000 2021, after COVID, it went to 682,000.

01:23:28.000 2022 dropped down to 560.61.

01:23:32.000 2023 went to 794, dropped down to 660.

01:23:36.000 2025 was 731.

01:23:38.000 But I asked Google AIY, Gemini, and it also mentions executive pay.

01:23:43.000 And I think this is another big component of why we are seeing salaries go up.

01:23:47.000 It's not just that there's inflation.

01:23:48.000 Look at gold, price, and silver.

01:23:49.000 That's true.

01:23:50.000 I think we're looking at a lack of capability.

01:23:54.000 So you mentioned these young people are sitting around playing video games, not doing anything.

01:23:58.000 Yep.

01:23:58.000 They're not getting skills and they're not figuring out how to make money or do anything meaningful.

01:24:02.000 And there's no job to even learn how to pour a Starbucks because grandma's in there because her retirement's not coming through for whatever reason. 1.00

01:24:09.000 I mean, everywhere you go, all the jobs that used to be, the job I got at McDonald's at 15 years old or 16 when you could finally get your first job, it's all like elderly people that are taking themselves because they're great workers. 1.00

01:24:20.000 They know how to do it.

01:24:21.000 They're going to show up.

01:24:22.000 They're not difficult to work with.

01:24:23.000 And so you got no entry point for these.

01:24:26.000 I mean, I know I'm sounding like a dad, totally a dad right now.

01:24:29.000 Like I'm stressed.

01:24:30.000 I got a teenager.

01:24:31.000 I'm like, what the hell are you going to do?

01:24:32.000 This world is totally jacked.

01:24:34.000 Well, you know, Dale, your point earlier is it's so salient because you were talking about how the entire conversation and the way we understand sexuality in the West has been completely inverted.

01:24:46.000 Like, it's a bit of a joke, but it's true. 0.98

01:24:48.000 It's like horny men do build civilization. 0.94

01:24:50.000 Like, they do these things because of women. 1.00

01:24:53.000 They want to provide for women.

01:24:54.000 They want to attract women, these sorts of things. 0.93

01:24:56.000 But the way that sexuality is presented to America, young American men is like the most degenerate aspects of sexuality are celebrated and promoted, like pornography, stripping, like OnlyFans. 0.95

01:25:06.000 So low-T, huh?

01:25:08.000 Well, and but then the most valuable aspects of sexuality are punished.

01:25:12.000 Like women that want to stay at home and work or men that have a healthy attraction to women, these sorts of things are punished.

01:25:19.000 And so it's like when you completely invert and invert our understanding of sexuality, completely invert the incentive structures, men are going to become demoralized.

01:25:26.000 Men won't want to work hard because, you know, like I said earlier, horny men build the West.

01:25:31.000 If you're not actually seeking to build a place for a family and to provide for your family, then what's the point of working?

01:25:38.000 What's the point of working really hard and then coming home to an empty apartment?

01:25:40.000 But they do also destroy the world because the internet was made by horny men.

01:25:43.000 That's true.

01:25:44.000 So early internet was not.

01:25:46.000 And then one day some guy was like, hey, I know how our computers can do email and stuff, but I want to see a picture of a naked woman. 1.00

01:25:52.000 And they were like, we got to make faster internet. 0.97

01:25:55.000 Put boobs on it. 1.00

01:25:56.000 So they were like, how can we increase the speed of internet so that we can show boobs? 0.98

01:26:02.000 And they figured it out.

01:26:03.000 And now we're all being cooked because our culture is breaking down and people are just on the internet. 1.00

01:26:07.000 You just got to talk about your penis more, man. 1.00

01:26:09.000 You're a man. 1.00

01:26:10.000 Be vocal about it.

01:26:12.000 You got to be comfortable with sex.

01:26:13.000 We need to make sexuality normalized to talk about.

01:26:16.000 And I'm not talking about grotesque, x-rated conversations.

01:26:19.000 We're just talking about your sexy body, your ripped abs.

01:26:22.000 Phil knows what I'm talking about.

01:26:23.000 He's laughing at this.

01:26:24.000 Your giant member, all that stuff.

01:26:25.000 Man, make her pregnant. 1.00

01:26:27.000 Get that woman fertilized. 0.99

01:26:28.000 Have your baby.

01:26:30.000 But women don't want to be with guys, and guys have low testosterone because they don't chop lumber anymore. 0.99

01:26:35.000 Got to run that infrared light on your nutsack, apparently. 0.99

01:26:38.000 According to John Otto last week, it increases sunning your balls. 0.99

01:26:41.000 Testosterone. 0.96

01:26:42.000 That's right.

01:26:43.000 So also chopping wood apparently is like in boosts your testosterone more than anything else.

01:26:47.000 Hanging from a tree branch, too, particularly tree branches.

01:26:50.000 Guys, hanging from a tree branch.

01:26:51.000 Deadlift.

01:26:52.000 Deadlifts.

01:26:53.000 I don't know.

01:26:54.000 I like the idea of chopping wood.

01:26:55.000 Yeah, wood.

01:26:56.000 Or strange Chinese peptides.

01:26:58.000 If you just want to skip all the hard work, you could just do that.

01:27:02.000 Doesn't that mess you up, though?

01:27:03.000 Oh, especially the strange Chinese ones. 1.00

01:27:05.000 Yeah.

01:27:06.000 That's a big problem.

01:27:06.000 Is that what's going on, people?

01:27:08.000 These Gen Z guys.

01:27:10.000 What's going on?

01:27:11.000 The internet is making everybody go insane, right?

01:27:13.000 Like that clavicless guy or whatever.

01:27:16.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:27:16.000 Yeah, he's getting a lot of attention now because he's nuts. 0.99

01:27:18.000 Crystal meth for hollow cheeks. 0.98

01:27:21.000 That's what he said, right?

01:27:22.000 You know, not medically.

01:27:24.000 Bro, y'all need church.

01:27:26.000 No, that's a very salient point.

01:27:27.000 We do need church because it provides structure for our lives.

01:27:30.000 Otherwise, we're just in the wind.

01:27:32.000 Community.

01:27:32.000 We need community, man.

01:27:33.000 I was a theater kid.

01:27:34.000 That's where I got my love for people.

01:27:36.000 Age 14 to 20.

01:27:38.000 It was every day, 10 hours, not every day, but three hours a day.

01:27:41.000 Let's get together.

01:27:42.000 Let's do this.

01:27:43.000 It wasn't about you.

01:27:43.000 It was about the group.

01:27:44.000 And that's part of the reason relationships, marriage formation is breaking down is because young people don't have the touch points to interact with the opposite sex.

01:27:51.000 It just never occurs.

01:27:53.000 And so for men, again, when it's like when there's no, there's no available partners, like I've said it before, where the hoes at is a very salient question in today's society. 1.00

01:28:02.000 Like men are just going to hang it up.

01:28:04.000 They're just going to say, well, it's easier to just like take the buyout and like smoke.

01:28:08.000 We can play video games all day because it's like, what else?

01:28:11.000 What's on offer?

01:28:12.000 Like they college really is.

01:28:13.000 This is why college actually is valued so much in American society is it's not even really valued for the education anymore, obviously.

01:28:19.000 It's valued because it's the last instance in a young person's life where they're going to be surrounded by young people entirely.

01:28:25.000 Because after that, you go into the workplace, you're probably going to be the youngest person in the workplace by my first corporate job.

01:28:29.000 I was like, the second youngest person was like 15 years older than me.

01:28:33.000 So it's like, that's part of the reason college is so worshipped as a part of American civic life is because for young people, it's their last time being around other young people.

01:28:41.000 And you ask boomers, like when they first entered the workplace, they were surrounded by young people and they're probably equally as ambitious, the same interests, these sorts of things.

01:28:48.000 And that's just not occurring for young people anymore.

01:28:50.000 It is, it is, you know, it's really funny about Vegas is that when you drive down, there was a Sammy Hagar ad I saw, and I was like, wow.

01:28:57.000 You know, and David Copperfield.

01:28:59.000 I know.

01:29:00.000 Wow.

01:29:01.000 And the picture told one he had 40 years ago.

01:29:04.000 I want to go see it just to see what the hell does he look like.

01:29:04.000 What does this guy look like?

01:29:06.000 Look, Sammy sounds great.

01:29:07.000 He's got to be like 75 or something.

01:29:09.000 But the point is, why isn't Vegas like it's not a real question rhetorical, but the question would be, why is Vegas not having younger musicians and celebrities and stars?

01:29:21.000 Because there aren't any because there aren't young people.

01:29:23.000 Or Bo Burnham is like, why would I go to Vegas?

01:29:25.000 I can just perform here.

01:29:28.000 Young people don't have the money to come see it. 1.00

01:29:30.000 Like the only people that have money is the boomers that are the last. 1.00

01:29:34.000 I mean, this whole town is designed to entertain those that still have Vegas will cease to exist in 15, 20 years.

01:29:40.000 I think you're right about that.

01:29:41.000 You will see young people turn out in huge numbers for artists like Taylor Swift, for artists like Sabrina Carpenter.

01:29:48.000 In correct on the Springer Carpenter.

01:29:49.000 I'm not even sure that.

01:29:50.000 But aren't you doing that with their own money?

01:29:52.000 Well, yeah, I'm just saying you will see moments where like young people will gravitate towards an artist, but they're just not this like magnanimous cultural touchstone where everyone's on the same page.

01:30:02.000 Most of these artists that, like my entire Spotify rap, is going to be completely different from someone my age with the exact same background, versus just if they existed in the 80s or Spotify rap, it's probably going to be the same, like 80% of Americans are probably the same lineup.

01:30:15.000 Yeah, but these Vegas shows aren't stadiums yeah, so it's like it's impossible to generate an artist large enough to even like Taylor Sweat's the last one, and even then she still kind of comes from that monoculture era. 0.89

01:30:25.000 But Sabrina Carpenter was selling out arenas like 10k tickets right yeah, and Metallica does stadiums with like 90,000 seats, and so Vegas.

01:30:34.000 But those tickets were like $25.

01:30:36.000 They're like $600 now right, so again, it's all so elitist.

01:30:40.000 We're killing it all the way around arenas that that are like 90,000.

01:30:44.000 They just play.

01:30:44.000 They played so far a couple years ago and I was there and it was.

01:30:47.000 I'm saying that Sabrina Carpenter could play in Vegas, but she's not. 1.00

01:30:50.000 Yeah, because young, at your point, young people aren't.

01:30:53.000 They don't come here and I just I think the reality is there aren't young people.

01:30:57.000 Young people don't really go anywhere. 0.99

01:30:59.000 There's not really like a town in America that's like the young people pilgrimage spot.

01:31:03.000 May maybe Nashville, and that's pushing it?

01:31:05.000 Um, it doesn't really exist outside of that New York City to some degree, but now New York City.

01:31:09.000 So what you're saying is, the business opportunity right now is to create a physical place that young people want to be at.

01:31:15.000 Good idea, I mean, in theory yeah, but it's like I imagine we have the brightest strategic marketing minds trying to crack that question.

01:31:22.000 No way no, because we talked about this a while ago.

01:31:25.000 If, if you are a uh, if you, if you own a venue, let's say you got 90,000 seats and someone comes to you and says, I'm a promoter, I work with these big labels.

01:31:34.000 We got a bunch of artists we want to do these, this tour.

01:31:37.000 We've got Metallica, Beyoncé and you know what.

01:31:41.000 You know Sammy Hager, I don't know whatever.

01:31:43.000 He's probably gonna sell an arena but say, we got Metallica, we got Beyonce, we got Taylor Swift.

01:31:46.000 They go, okay, that sounds fantastic.

01:31:48.000 You know, Taylor Swift is now what she's like 37, and so they go, oh, that's great, we'll sell those seats.

01:31:53.000 Gen Z, this company's not gonna pitch Gen Z to the stadium because they're gonna go. 1.00

01:32:00.000 No one's gonna buy those tickets.

01:32:01.000 Yeah, so the issue is, there's a tremendous market opportunity to target Gen Z, but if you are a mainstream promoter looking to book out big shows, you're not bothering with it yeah.

01:32:13.000 So right now, for the entry level, if you're a Gen Z person, your opportunity is to start doing shows and make a space or venues that Gen Z wants to be at, because you're getting neglected, because people are like look, boomers are living to 500 years old.

01:32:29.000 Now we're gonna sell tickets to them.

01:32:30.000 They've got, they've got three houses, they own all the corporate equities.

01:32:33.000 They can afford it.

01:32:34.000 Why bother?

01:32:35.000 Shifting our business model to gen z?

01:32:38.000 Yeah, and it's being run by boomers themselves. 0.66

01:32:40.000 Gen z needs to actually start building and cultivating these spaces and that's where you're gonna make your money. 0.99

01:32:46.000 Well, you're gonna make not as much money as you like.

01:32:48.000 Boomers have all the cash right now, but in 10 years, whoever builds the gen z space will have all the cash.

01:32:54.000 The problem with gen z is you can only appeal to half of it, so it's an increasingly small population and then within that, it's completely stratified by by gender, like by sex rather um like, if you look at like a Michael Jackson concert, it's going to be fairly mixed, it's going to be men and women, but with gen z there's not really any artists that have crossover with both sexes Sexes and mass scale.

01:33:15.000 Like with Taylor Swift, it's or Sabrina Carpenter, it's 95% women and Connor Tomlinson, as he demonstrated on Twitter.

01:33:22.000 So it's like you're appealing to half of the population at best, and it's already infinitesimally compared to the.

01:33:31.000 Yeah, I blame the internet.

01:33:32.000 It's bifurcating.

01:33:33.000 Yeah.

01:33:34.000 It's not just bifurcating.

01:33:35.000 It's trachagillion burcading.

01:33:41.000 It's stratifying.

01:33:43.000 It is granularizing everything into its most basic, unique little snowflake form where no one will agree on anything.

01:33:51.000 Everyone's going to live in an AI bubble.

01:33:53.000 And they're going to be like, my music is so indie, I made it myself, and you'll never hear it.

01:33:58.000 Yeah.

01:33:59.000 That's where we're going.

01:34:00.000 But that is what the geniuses are all focused on.

01:34:02.000 That is the total globalist system.

01:34:03.000 It's not designed to put them in stadiums.

01:34:05.000 They don't want them out and about.

01:34:06.000 They want them in a 15-minute city, a five-minute city.

01:34:09.000 Then they want to just dip them.

01:34:10.000 I mean, I keep thinking the matrix.

01:34:12.000 I keep looking at life as how close am I to the tub of jelly they're going to lower me into where I'm vicariously living a life.

01:34:18.000 To be honest, we're like a week away from Joe Rogan advocating the tub of jelly rejuvenation.

01:34:24.000 You don't try to say it's good for your bones.

01:34:27.000 Like growing up in Boulder, like I grew up with, you know, we're environmentalists.

01:34:30.000 I still am.

01:34:31.000 I still want like clean water.

01:34:32.000 I want to go fishing with my kid.

01:34:33.000 I want conservation.

01:34:34.000 I want things like that.

01:34:35.000 I don't want an authoritarian government.

01:34:37.000 I don't want carbon credit scores.

01:34:38.000 But all of this, like, and the Democrats, the party that used to carry and tow that line don't realize they're about to make national parks illegal.

01:34:46.000 They're already starting up in Canada.

01:34:48.000 I mean, this, this hatred of ourselves and human beings and separating ourselves from nature and hide us in housing is getting so severe that it is only going to be elitists that are going to go to Yellowstone and be like, you're not allowed in here because human beings are bad for nature.

01:35:02.000 So this idea, they're totally taking us and our kids, they don't want them in a stadium.

01:35:08.000 They don't want them out and about.

01:35:09.000 They don't want them in a town.

01:35:10.000 They want them in their houses in front of their computers and don't ever leave.

01:35:14.000 I mean, that is what they're being designed to do.

01:35:16.000 And then, you know, if they figure out how to make money doing that, great.

01:35:20.000 If they don't, you know.

01:35:21.000 Well, it's like, I mean, it goes back to my earlier point where when you're seeing these metrics like alcohol use these, and I'm a Christian, like I don't encourage these things for lifestyle, but this isn't a result of like Christian prudishness.

01:35:34.000 This is a result of really just fear and improper matriculation.

01:35:38.000 I use the word again, but it's true. 1.00

01:35:39.000 And it's like, yeah, this is, there's something fundamentally broken here.

01:35:45.000 Fundamentally, I think to your point, there's an attempt to basically turn people, rob them of their identity, every identity that God gave them, and turn them into a consumer fundamentally.

01:35:55.000 Like, I want your identity to be in what TV shows you consume or what NFL team you support.

01:36:01.000 Being American, Christian, et cetera, like that's not important. 1.00

01:36:05.000 You can get rid of that, cut that loose. 0.94

01:36:06.000 Even your sex, like you can cut, you could change that. 0.99

01:36:09.000 But are you a Captain America fan?

01:36:11.000 Okay, well, you should be wearing your Captain America t-shirt everywhere you go because that's fundamentally what they want to reduce it down as purchasable identities.

01:36:18.000 Yeah, I think your identity, it's not, there's an attempt to make people believe that your identity is what you think you are.

01:36:23.000 That's who you are.

01:36:24.000 But the reality is your identity is what you've done.

01:36:27.000 Well, I think a lot of your identity is intrinsic and they're trying to rob that because it debases you and it derasinates you and there's market incentive for that and also the self-hatred.

01:36:36.000 Like they hate people that are secure in their identity and strong and these sorts of things.

01:36:41.000 And it's actually really effective to just destabilize them because, I mean, not to get conspiratorial, but if you're trying to ensure your control over a system, your regime's control over the system, the last thing you'd want is renegades.

01:36:52.000 And someone that's really secure in their identity is inherently going to be a renegade because they're going to look at everything around them that's slop and be like, I don't fit with this.

01:36:59.000 This isn't cohesive for me.

01:37:00.000 So I'm going to up and figure it out.

01:37:02.000 We got to.

01:37:03.000 Tent, you're using big words.

01:37:05.000 You got to shrink those words down.

01:37:05.000 My bad.

01:37:07.000 The average person has no idea what's going on when we use these.

01:37:10.000 Who knows what is mercenary?

01:37:12.000 Matriculate.

01:37:13.000 You use matriculate twice.

01:37:14.000 What does matriculate? 1.00

01:37:15.000 It means like as you become, like, for example, a kid matriculates into an adult.

01:37:21.000 It's becoming, it's absorbing into the new way of life, the system, that sort of thing.

01:37:26.000 Is it because the internet, because people are like consumed on the internet, that is it the internet?

01:37:31.000 I can't just wholly blame the internet.

01:37:32.000 No, I actually, yeah, I can't wholly blame the internet either.

01:37:35.000 I think it's just the conventional institution.

01:37:37.000 Matriculate means to be formally enrolled in university.

01:37:40.000 Well, that as well, yeah.

01:37:41.000 So it's like, I think it's also because of these institutions that would facilitate that have broken down. 1.00

01:37:45.000 So stupid word. 0.99

01:37:48.000 Yeah, for young people, I mean, the sort of thing. 1.00

01:37:52.000 What percentage of kids play school sports?

01:37:54.000 Does that change at all?

01:37:55.000 Because it seems like they're all just on video games.

01:37:57.000 Yes, they're not out there doing it, are they?

01:37:58.000 Anecdotally, I've noticed everywhere I move that batting cages are closing down, which is really tragic because A, that's going to cause problems because that's how you develop throwing mechanics.

01:38:07.000 So we're going to see a bunch of limp-wristed men ultimately that can't throw a baseball. 0.76

01:38:13.000 It's going to be a big problem.

01:38:15.000 So you're seeing that.

01:38:16.000 And yeah, every indicator for youth sports, it's grim.

01:38:19.000 It's increasingly small.

01:38:21.000 And the youth sports that do exist are becoming more and more expensive.

01:38:24.000 Like when I played high school basketball, it wasn't high school musical type of basketball.

01:38:28.000 It was like AAU, travel, basketball is very expensive for the parents.

01:38:32.000 It's high intensity.

01:38:34.000 Kids are like, I'm either going to play college basketball or bust.

01:38:37.000 When typically, like for young people that want to play high school basketball, like, I don't know, it's fun.

01:38:40.000 I get to play with my friends.

01:38:41.000 I like playing basketball.

01:38:42.000 Probably won't go to play college ball.

01:38:44.000 I mean, it'd be cool.

01:38:45.000 But now it's like, it's all or nothing.

01:38:46.000 And I think that's putting off a lot of young kids from sports as well.

01:38:49.000 We need, you know, we need re-education centers.

01:38:52.000 We need to physically and forcefully take children and make them play baseball.

01:38:57.000 And when I say re-education centers, I mean like we take them from their parents to put them into schools where they learn about baseball.

01:39:02.000 Yes.

01:39:03.000 And, you know, you got to learn about you.

01:39:05.000 The military will invest in this because the way the grenade was designed was designed as the same shape as a baseball because kids understand how to throw a baseball.

01:39:11.000 And Americans have some of the best throwing mechanics in the world.

01:39:14.000 And I do think the military would have an incentive in these baseball re-education camps.

01:39:17.000 You go to the house?

01:39:17.000 These kids can't throw grenades anymore.

01:39:19.000 Mandatory baseball camp for the money.

01:39:20.000 I mean, like the latest stats, I mean, health, they say health, like 75% of kids, you know, this was Bobby Kennedy's line, can't qualify to join the military on health reasons.

01:39:29.000 I wonder if it's straight health, though. 0.96

01:39:30.000 It may just be they can't throw a ball or run or do a damn thing. 0.97

01:39:33.000 I mean, is it really that they have diabetes? 0.99

01:39:36.000 I don't know.

01:39:36.000 I'm questioning.

01:39:37.000 I want to dig deeper to that data because how many kids are actually actively able to run up a mountain or you know?

01:39:43.000 I mean, this isn't data-driven, but the idea that you would send your kids out into the world during the day, that's gone.

01:39:52.000 You'll get DSS or something at your house with your kid being like, why is your kid out?

01:39:57.000 And I'm going to sound totally like a boomer now, but when I was a kid, it was, you know, go outside and play and don't come back until the streetlights come on.

01:40:03.000 And granted, I live in the suburbs or lived in the suburbs, but like that was a way for me to go out and be physically active.

01:40:10.000 As soon as I could ride a bike, I was riding my bike all around the neighborhood and I was out in the woods playing and take chances, make mistakes, get jacked up, had to figure out how to lie your way out of a problem you created.

01:40:21.000 All the things are going to be useful further out in life.

01:40:24.000 Nowadays, kids are actually actively discouraged from doing that.

01:40:29.000 And parents are discouraged from allowing their children to do that.

01:40:33.000 So even if the parents are like, oh, I would like my kids to be more independent than the typical kid, you're risking some kind of interference from the government or from the local authorities because your kid was out doing something.

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01:42:40.000 We got KO 7776.

01:42:42.000 Either these cameras add 10 pounds or the Timcast ones subtract 10 pounds, or it could be the USA government working with the French Foreign Legion Egyptians to manipulate the stream.

01:42:51.000 Correct.

01:42:52.000 These are the exact same cameras.

01:42:54.000 Right?

01:42:55.000 Different lenses for different focal lengths.

01:42:57.000 They got us.

01:42:58.000 We all pre-gamed at the Heart Attack Grill.

01:43:01.000 They're on our case.

01:43:02.000 I don't know how they figured that out.

01:43:05.000 I identify as Taxes app says Trump will talk-ish about a dead guy he had beef with, but is oh-so nice to borderline treasonous chicken-ish Republicans in Congress.

01:43:15.000 You know.

01:43:16.000 Matt Low Baby says, Tim, I'm sorry I gave you a hard time.

01:43:19.000 Just want you to stop being a shill. 1.00

01:43:21.000 I liked you better when you had fun and talked about your chickens.

01:43:23.000 I don't know what that was a reference to.

01:43:25.000 Did you make a different post?

01:43:26.000 We talk about the chickens still all the time.

01:43:28.000 Yeah, and how we will beat you if you don't buy chickens. 1.00

01:43:28.000 Indeed. 1.00

01:43:32.000 Tim steers every conversation behind the scenes back to his chickens.

01:43:35.000 He loves his chickens very dearly.

01:43:36.000 I can confirm.

01:43:37.000 That's right.

01:43:38.000 Astro Fox G says, Welcome to my City Tim and Crew.

01:43:41.000 Any plans for West Coast members to get a meet and hang while you're all here?

01:43:45.000 Unfortunately, we miss out on a ton of live events.

01:43:48.000 You can go to the World Poker Tour where I'm milling about and filming.

01:43:52.000 And maybe I'll see you there.

01:43:54.000 It's hard to do because, you know, security stuff, but there's a lot of people all over the place.

01:44:00.000 Grip Lit Production says, if it was a different Democrat, what Trump did would be unacceptable.

01:44:04.000 Rob wanted Trump dead and said horrific stuff about his family.

01:44:07.000 Trump was way more reserved than I would have been.

01:44:10.000 Well, I get it.

01:44:13.000 It's fine.

01:44:14.000 Demos says, Phil, to your point, the left's booze mean nothing.

01:44:17.000 We've seen what makes them cheer.

01:44:19.000 Yes, clearly.

01:44:20.000 Indeed.

01:44:22.000 JM says, per tradition, we are watching from the delivery room, welcoming our fourth kid.

01:44:27.000 Rob.

01:44:28.000 Let's go.

01:44:29.000 Well, I commend you.

01:44:30.000 You're going to need four more.

01:44:32.000 We need people.

01:44:33.000 Babies.

01:44:34.000 You got to have more.

01:44:35.000 We needed battery farm patriots. 0.86

01:44:36.000 Keep going.

01:44:38.000 NNY says, related to nothing being discussed, but the lighting tonight is awesome.

01:44:41.000 Maybe Ian can investigate.

01:44:43.000 He's good at rabbit holes.

01:44:44.000 Shout out to the PokerGo studios because the first thing I noticed is I was like, these lights are absolutely incredible.

01:44:49.000 How do we get them?

01:44:50.000 Yeah, the whole time.

01:44:51.000 So they're on that.

01:44:52.000 They even have like purple lights up here, kind of giving some nice bounce when you have a lot more money than we do.

01:44:52.000 They got it.

01:45:00.000 And more, probably lighting technicians have been doing it for 30 years, lighting technicians.

01:45:04.000 Apparently, I guess like each individual light is five grand or something.

01:45:07.000 I guess it's nothing.

01:45:08.000 Serge, lighting was never your like, your more audio is like your main gig.

01:45:12.000 I don't think we've ever looked into hiring like a lighting guy.

01:45:16.000 We did.

01:45:16.000 We dramatically improved the lighting from the from the, I guess technically the third studio.

01:45:21.000 I used to have lighting in college in the theater.

01:45:24.000 I'm not like the first time.

01:45:26.000 The first studio, we just had these lights we bought off Amazon.

01:45:29.000 The second studio was also just lights we bought off Amazon.

01:45:32.000 We moved them.

01:45:33.000 That was winning to the castle.

01:45:34.000 Studio number three had LED strips surrounding the whole room so the light was perfectly even.

01:45:40.000 The problem was the temperature.

01:45:41.000 So everyone looked really pale like they were zombies.

01:45:44.000 And then the next room upgrade is where we are now, which that would be what studio number four.

01:45:51.000 And we have actual studio lights facing everybody as well as LEDs to balance.

01:45:55.000 You got backlights hitting your backs so it doesn't look like you're it looks kind of makes you pop out.

01:45:55.000 So this is cool.

01:46:01.000 That's really nice.

01:46:02.000 Pop.

01:46:04.000 Indeed.

01:46:05.000 Pop.

01:46:07.000 All right, let's see.

01:46:08.000 Kyle West says, you want viewership back, question mark.

01:46:11.000 No, actually, we're way up.

01:46:13.000 This is rather fantastic.

01:46:15.000 In the same time after the election in 2020, we were averaging around 27,000 concurrents per night.

01:46:22.000 We average around 40 in the offseason now.

01:46:24.000 So shows actually bigger.

01:46:26.000 I fully recognize after every presidential election, a political show sees a decline in viewership.

01:46:31.000 I am not crying about it, nor am I going to make things up to try and get viewers.

01:46:36.000 But he goes on to say, acknowledge you ignored Israeli influence.

01:46:40.000 Oh my God.

01:46:40.000 You needed a White House correspondent.

01:46:42.000 Then highlight that China and Israel are working to balkanize the U.S. What I will say is Israel, like many other countries, exerts influence in the United States.

01:46:52.000 They have a lot of influence among a lot of populations, largely as they pander to American Jewish individuals, like in New York with a large Jewish population.

01:47:01.000 And all the mayors said, I'd go to Israel, which is just cringe.

01:47:04.000 And then Mamdani had the only right answer, and I didn't even like the guy.

01:47:07.000 And he said, I'd stay here and just help the people of my city, which helped him out a lot.

01:47:12.000 But man, man, there's a special kind of retardation that thinks Israel runs the world. 1.00

01:47:18.000 And there's nothing you can do about it.

01:47:21.000 I'm not going to play games.

01:47:22.000 I'm not going to pander to you people.

01:47:24.000 Yes, you people.

01:47:24.000 Okay.

01:47:26.000 The people who think Israel is hiding around every corner. 1.00

01:47:28.000 Benjamin Netanyahu plays stupid games and it's patently obvious when he's doing these things. 0.99

01:47:34.000 And then I get these people and people, Tim, why would you go meet with Benjamin Netanyahu dare you paid by Israel? 1.00

01:47:39.000 Because I was going to tweet this out, but you know what?

01:47:44.000 I should get around to it.

01:47:44.000 I shouldn't.

01:47:45.000 I said, wait a second, I shouldn't listen.

01:47:48.000 Not too long ago, I was invited to the White House to meet with a controversial political figure.

01:47:52.000 And this angered a lot of people.

01:47:54.000 They accused me now of being paid by these people, of having my opinions influenced by them, of corrupting my show, and of sacrificing everything that made this show unique.

01:48:07.000 But I will tell you this.

01:48:08.000 I will never turn down a meeting with any world leader just because they're controversial.

01:48:14.000 And I will say this of that meeting.

01:48:17.000 If invited again, I absolutely would meet with Trump twice.

01:48:23.000 Real.

01:48:23.000 Was that?

01:48:24.000 My mic went out?

01:48:26.000 Yep.

01:48:26.000 Oh, it died.

01:48:27.000 I'd say it's likely that Tim would meet with Kim Jong-il if he got the chance. 0.97

01:48:34.000 If you didn't hear the last thing with Tim was saying, he was like, yeah, I was serving Israel the whole time and it was filming.

01:48:39.000 Still serving them right now.

01:48:40.000 Oh, did my mic go out?

01:48:41.000 Oh, my bad.

01:48:42.000 This one's still working.

01:48:44.000 The point is, I go and I meet with Trump and all these leftists are like, we treat you anymore.

01:48:50.000 And then I get an email and they're like, Benjamin Netanyahu is coming to the White House.

01:48:54.000 Would you like to attend?

01:48:55.000 And I said, yes, I would.

01:48:56.000 Because I'll meet with any world leader.

01:48:58.000 And that's the thing, you know, it's because people, there are people and they're just saying things like, Tim, you know, you're saying I can't follow you anymore because you want to acknowledge Israel. 0.54

01:49:07.000 Happens every time.

01:49:09.000 I told this story before I'll tell it again.

01:49:11.000 I'm at Occupy Wall Street, and all these people at Occupy Wall Street love me until they started vandalizing police cars and attacking people.

01:49:19.000 And then, as I filmed that, the same as everything else, they said, Why are you filming me?

01:49:22.000 Because I've been filming everything the whole time.

01:49:24.000 Then all of a sudden, they're like, Okay, we don't like them anymore.

01:49:27.000 And here we go.

01:49:28.000 The Israel people were content until they started demanding everybody just talk about Israel and nothing else.

01:49:35.000 But you know what?

01:49:36.000 I'm going to tell you something.

01:49:36.000 I'm not retarded.

01:49:38.000 Okay.

01:49:38.000 So, because of that, I don't care.

01:49:41.000 And then I get these messages from backstabbers, betrayers, and mutineers being like, Why won't you wake up to the truth about what's going on in this country?

01:49:49.000 Donald Trump works for Israel. 0.81

01:49:51.000 Pretty sure when Donald Trump goes to the Saudis and tries to offer them up every deal in the world to re-up the petrodollar contract, that's not Israel. 0.66

01:49:59.000 It's Saudi Arabia.

01:50:01.000 But you know what?

01:50:02.000 To the people who live in crackpot reality, and every time they turn a corner, there's an Israeli standing around, what are you going to do? 1.00

01:50:07.000 You can't convince them of anything.

01:50:09.000 All right.

01:50:10.000 Pinochet says, Animal Farm was made by the CIA in 1954 under Operation Touchstone.

01:50:15.000 CIA first went to Walt Disney, but he did not trust Hollywood Kami Animator, so it was made in the UK. 0.85

01:50:22.000 Interesting thing.

01:50:23.000 I don't know if it's true, but that's interesting.

01:50:25.000 Yeah, I've never heard that.

01:50:28.000 Beastevin says, everyone acting like Angel Studios Animal Farm is betraying their Christian values is incorrect.

01:50:32.000 Angel Studios was never Christian.

01:50:33.000 They are Mormon.

01:50:34.000 Mormons don't believe in Jesus, don't believe Jesus is God. 0.93

01:50:38.000 This is communism, though.

01:50:39.000 I'm not even talking about Jesus.

01:50:40.000 We're talking about communism.

01:50:44.000 Mythos says, Tim, Zoomers don't want to even get driver's licenses because they are so risk averse. 1.00

01:50:49.000 They are so full of anxiety.

01:50:50.000 I'm betting a massive increase of heart disease in 10 years among them.

01:50:54.000 You know what, man? 1.00

01:50:56.000 Man, Gen Z sucks. 1.00

01:50:58.000 What? 1.00

01:50:59.000 My nephews are 17 and 21 now.

01:51:04.000 And the 21-year-old just in the past couple years got his license.

01:51:08.000 And the 17-year-old has no interest in actually getting his license and stuff.

01:51:13.000 Well, the nice thing about being a Zoomer is because so many of my generation are so risk-averse that if you have any degree of risk tolerance, you're going to inherit the world.

01:51:23.000 Like it's totally like an open playing field.

01:51:26.000 This is why you're seeing some Zoomers just become immensely successful very quickly. 1.00

01:51:30.000 It's just because they're willing to take on an exorbitant amount of risk.

01:51:34.000 It's an open playing field.

01:51:35.000 Now, if it takes out the world with us, then I suppose the success won't really matter in the long run.

01:51:42.000 I like this one.

01:51:42.000 Oh, but we got to go.

01:51:43.000 Velesco says, if Euthanos snapped the boomers and all that money went into the economy, how would affordability and debt be looking?

01:51:51.000 This is really interesting.

01:51:52.000 Probably what would happen is a ton of properties would become vacant overnight and then fall into disrepair within a few weeks.

01:51:58.000 Houses can't be empty.

01:52:00.000 They fall apart.

01:52:02.000 So anybody who owns property knows this, and you need to have a management company checking in on it.

01:52:07.000 You need to have tenants.

01:52:08.000 It's real simple.

01:52:10.000 At the castle, we had a, what was it?

01:52:12.000 Like a, I don't think it was a pipe burst.

01:52:14.000 I think it was something related to the air conditioning.

01:52:18.000 And it was condensation formed and it started dripping in the same spot into the drywall, rotting it and destroying it.

01:52:25.000 And we noticed right away.

01:52:27.000 Were we not there because it was an investment property we weren't at, that would have just destroyed everything like very, very quickly.

01:52:34.000 There was, I'll put it like this.

01:52:37.000 Anybody who's owned a home knows this.

01:52:40.000 Spill maybe like a couple buckets of water on the floor and don't clean it up and then figure out how much how much thousands of dollars in damage you're going to have in repairs and in the floor and the wood and everything.

01:52:52.000 It's insane.

01:52:53.000 So let's do this.

01:52:55.000 If all the boomers were gone overnight, no one would be able to track whose houses were what or where. 0.99

01:53:01.000 There would be some people who start businesses to do deed searches to figure out which houses are now vacant and available for sale.

01:53:07.000 Property values would collapse because there'd be a massive supply of houses all of a sudden just onto the market.

01:53:13.000 They would have no value, but people would own homes.

01:53:17.000 They'd go and they'd move into them.

01:53:18.000 I think ultimately it would be very bad for the economy because the people who still own homes would see their net worths get wiped out overnight.

01:53:26.000 And it's going to happen.

01:53:28.000 Boomers are at the mortality shelf. 1.00

01:53:31.000 I am not saying this to mock boomers or to insult them, but boomers now are at mortality.

01:53:36.000 So that's around 79 years old.

01:53:38.000 And then I think Trump is like the oldest of the boomers.

01:53:41.000 This means the next 10 years, they expect a massive, massive death rate.

01:53:46.000 This is what the mortality shelf or the mortality cliff is.

01:53:49.000 When a generation reaches the average age of mortality, the amount of death skyrockets because they're all reaching the mortality rate or the age of mortality.

01:54:00.000 So we're going to start seeing all the corporate equities get released.

01:54:03.000 Boomers do have kids, but these kids don't want to live in these hometowns. 1.00

01:54:08.000 So we've already seen this happen quite a bit where there's a property, like old people own a property, they died. 0.78

01:54:15.000 The kids inherit it.

01:54:16.000 Then the three kids are fighting over who gets what and how they're going to deal with it.

01:54:19.000 They argue.

01:54:20.000 No one can agree.

01:54:20.000 So they say, just sell it and sell it quick.

01:54:22.000 Then a house that would have been worth 500K sells for 300K and the price start coming down and they don't want to go live in it.

01:54:28.000 So it's going to get crazy.

01:54:31.000 Yeah.

01:54:32.000 Absolutely bankish.

01:54:33.000 I'm going to start building new houses with the materials revolution, like lightweight housing.

01:54:38.000 It's going to be awesome.

01:54:39.000 They're already building lots and lots of houses.

01:54:41.000 And the question is, who's going to live in them?

01:54:43.000 They're building tons of houses by us, and we don't know why.

01:54:45.000 Yeah.

01:54:46.000 We're like, who's going to live in these houses?

01:54:48.000 They've got big shipping centers by us.

01:54:50.000 They've got an Amazon shipping center and two vacant shipping centers.

01:54:54.000 And so we're sitting there being like, who do you think is going to come and work in these places?

01:54:59.000 Who is going to live in these houses?

01:55:01.000 Why do you need shipping in this area?

01:55:04.000 They are planning something.

01:55:05.000 Yeah.

01:55:06.000 Well, also, one interesting dynamic is that since the marriage rate has broken down, the housing demand hasn't actually responded to that because people are single, but they're still living in entire homes that were meant for single families in the past.

01:55:19.000 So even as the population retracts because people are not married, they're splitting up and they're just like a man and a woman that would be together sharing a home can now buy two homes.

01:55:29.000 Yeah, they're more money than us spending it on kids.

01:55:31.000 I mean, the salaries actually go straight to gambling and buying houses.

01:55:35.000 Yeah.

01:55:36.000 Yeah.

01:55:37.000 Yeah, like Tim said.

01:55:38.000 Yeah, I mean, like Tim said, life expectancy in the U.S. is 79.

01:55:41.000 1946 is the first year of the boomers.

01:55:43.000 That was the year Trump was born.

01:55:45.000 So mortality cliff is here.

01:55:47.000 TPZ says, fake mourning Rob Reiner dying to appease the left will not keep the left from trying to harm you and collapse your country.

01:55:55.000 Okay, sure.

01:55:56.000 I guess the point is Trump shouldn't say nice things about him because that would be fake mourning.

01:55:59.000 But I genuinely do mourn Rob Reiner because Princess Bride is one of the greatest movies of all time.

01:56:04.000 And I kid you not, I can recite the whole thing from memory.

01:56:07.000 Everybody knows it's a great movie.

01:56:08.000 And it's remarkable.

01:56:09.000 Its box office was like, was like 30 million or something.

01:56:12.000 Like insanely low.

01:56:13.000 Yeah, I heard that.

01:56:14.000 Misery?

01:56:15.000 Come on.

01:56:16.000 A few good men.

01:56:17.000 Yeah, Rob Reiner had a ton of classic American cultural films.

01:56:21.000 It is a shame he had TDS, but we want those things.

01:56:25.000 Princess Bride, we want that movie. 1.00

01:56:28.000 We want our culture to be doing things like that.

01:56:30.000 He was just working on Spinal Tattoo.

01:56:31.000 This is Spinal Tattoo.

01:56:33.000 And it was no good.

01:56:34.000 But this is Spinal Tap was legendary.

01:56:34.000 Oh, it's already out of it.

01:56:36.000 Yeah.

01:56:36.000 Legendary.

01:56:37.000 We all still say turning it up to 11.

01:56:39.000 It's an anime.

01:56:40.000 It's in your Tesla.

01:56:41.000 We live in the 1990s.

01:56:43.000 The volume on your Tesla goes to 11.

01:56:45.000 It goes to 11.

01:56:49.000 Yo, man, come on.

01:56:51.000 Yeah, look, we're going to.

01:56:53.000 I mourn his TDS. 0.95

01:56:56.000 It sucks that he was so politically left.

01:57:00.000 But at the same time, like, look, the guy did some stuff that was, that has helped shape what American culture is. 0.88

01:57:08.000 And so you can say, all right, well, I didn't agree with him and I didn't like some of the things that he said.

01:57:12.000 Do you think he was into decolonization?

01:57:16.000 I think that he, no, I don't think.

01:57:17.000 It's a legit question.

01:57:18.000 No, no, I don't think that he, I don't think that he was particularly well-versed in leftist ideology.

01:57:24.000 I think that he had TDS.

01:57:25.000 I think he found Donald Trump particularly distasteful.

01:57:29.000 Probably didn't like Trump before Trump was elected.

01:57:31.000 Probably didn't like him when he was on The Apprentice.

01:57:33.000 Probably thought he was boorish and stuff.

01:57:36.000 And then when Trump was elected, he was probably, oh, this guy's the worst.

01:57:43.000 I would propose that being against Donald Trump fundamentally is a form of this sort of anti-colonial sentiment, not directly, but because Trump was a reaction to Obama specifically.

01:57:55.000 And Obama cited Nelson Mandela as one of his greatest inspirations.

01:57:58.000 And Nelson Mandela is kind of the forerunner of this kind of anti-colonial decolonization sort of way of thinking.

01:58:05.000 And so being against Trump, maybe not directly, but I will say that opposition come to its conclusion would be in support of these sort of decolonial ideas.

01:58:16.000 All right.

01:58:16.000 TT says, watching the Republican House majority pass a $906 billion package for Ukraine makes me not fear communism anymore.

01:58:24.000 Whatever corrupt system we currently live in won't be worse for a slave like me in either system.

01:58:30.000 But you know what I will say is, would you rather be Ukraine or the United States?

01:58:37.000 I'd rather.

01:58:39.000 Live in the United States. 0.53

01:58:41.000 I wish I could be a country, Tim, but I'd rather.

01:58:43.000 If I could, I would be the United States.

01:58:45.000 All of them.

01:58:46.000 Everybody would rather be the United States.

01:58:47.000 The United States is the unipolar power now being displaced by an emerging multipolar world with China appearing alongside the U.S. seeking to displace it as the economic powerhouse.

01:59:00.000 Do you want to live in a second or third world country, or do you want to be the empire? 0.65

01:59:06.000 So the things the U.S. does overseas, it does to maintain the petrodollar so that Americans don't have to do any work.

01:59:12.000 The problem is Americans don't have baseball and apple pie anymore, so I don't know what you're fighting for.

01:59:16.000 The idea that we're going to go conquer foreign lands and steal their oil, I say, wow, for what?

01:59:22.000 Honest question.

01:59:23.000 For what?

01:59:24.000 Yeah.

01:59:24.000 There's no more baseball and apple pie.

01:59:26.000 So I don't know what the point of spending all our money in Ukraine is, what's the point of going to Ukraine or Venezuela when they're stealing it to then open the borders and flood everybody into this country who they bombed. 0.95

01:59:37.000 Yeah.

01:59:37.000 Trump literally asked about the Iraq war.

01:59:40.000 He didn't go into these intellectual breakdowns or geopolitical discussions.

01:59:43.000 He just said, where's the oil?

01:59:45.000 But it's such a good point because it's like, if we are conducting these, why are we not reaping the words?

01:59:49.000 We are this empire, and I don't really think there is a way to go back to being a republic.

01:59:52.000 It's like, but where's the benefit?

01:59:54.000 The benefit is the petrodollar.

01:59:56.000 Right, but it's like, why is gas more expensive even falling?

02:00:00.000 That's the way a lot of Americans think and conceptualize these things.

02:00:02.000 The issue is we don't have people.

02:00:04.000 So there's, I'm not going to go, you know, I put it like this.

02:00:08.000 You live in a house by yourself.

02:00:09.000 You got pizza every night.

02:00:11.000 You got beer.

02:00:12.000 You got movies.

02:00:13.000 You don't need to rob anybody.

02:00:15.000 You've got everything you need.

02:00:16.000 The United States enforcing the petrodollar and all these other countries, but it doesn't have any children.

02:00:22.000 So it's like, okay, in 40 years, none of this will matter anyway.

02:00:26.000 It's going tits up and China's going to take over. 1.00

02:00:28.000 Like the whole point of having this empire is that you're able to source goods to bring back to your people that wouldn't otherwise be there.

02:00:28.000 Yeah.

02:00:35.000 But the American empire is the first time probably in human history where we have an empire that's at the expense of the people that are at home.

02:00:42.000 It's like, this is completely inverted.

02:00:44.000 It is very literally get resources, healthy foods, import them, make your populace the healthiest, most intelligent populace on the planet to further dominate.

02:00:52.000 And because of the toxins of the last hundred years of industrial waste that we've been pumping through our society, it's like undermining that intention.

02:01:00.000 Yeah.

02:01:01.000 The British used to topple civilizations for tea. 1.00

02:01:03.000 Like they had very, they had a very like raw understanding of like what empire meant.

02:01:07.000 It meant bringing home like resources and value to your people.

02:01:11.000 The American empire, like I said earlier, it's just completely inverted.

02:01:14.000 Do you think that that is because of the end of World War II with the advent of nuclear bombs, nuclear weapons?

02:01:21.000 No, I just think it's the post-war consensus is like, look, the people that are poised to benefit from the American empire are very far removed from the middle class.

02:01:33.000 Typically, like the British Empire, for the elite, if they would gain these resources and these sort of things, it would trickle down to the people.

02:01:40.000 Everyone would reap the benefits.

02:01:41.000 Where American society is so stratified that the elite reap the rewards and then it isn't really trickled down to the American people.

02:01:48.000 Trump posited like, hey, what about the oil?

02:01:50.000 That's like something tangible that middle-class Americans can grasp.

02:01:53.000 It's like, okay, I can see the benefit of this, but my gas got cheaper.

02:01:57.000 But I mean, the post-war consensus is obviously a contributing factor of that.

02:02:01.000 Yeah, so we're like, you know, we're looking at the war in Venezuela.

02:02:04.000 And I think a lot of it has to do with the petrodollar.

02:02:07.000 I think a lot of it has to do with Trump wants the economy to do better.

02:02:11.000 So here's how you go about doing it.

02:02:13.000 And it's not that we're seizing the oil.

02:02:14.000 It's that we're reintegrating their oil into our market system, which will create, will increase energy output, which will lower prices, et cetera, et cetera.

02:02:23.000 It's not that we're seizing your stuff.

02:02:24.000 We're just reintegrating it into our system.

02:02:26.000 The United States military is not taking their oil.

02:02:30.000 They go in and shut down Venezuela and then companies from Europe, the Middle East, and the United States are going to go and start divving that up.

02:02:36.000 The U.S., we are not seizing their oil.

02:02:39.000 You just break their government.

02:02:41.000 Corporations go in for it.

02:02:42.000 And let other countries and other corporations go and do whatever they want.

02:02:46.000 Yeah.

02:02:47.000 It's called an invasion by force.

02:02:47.000 Certainly.

02:02:49.000 There you go.

02:02:50.000 My point is, the U.S. military is not going in and taking oil.

02:02:54.000 So we are not doing it.

02:02:55.000 Yeah.

02:02:56.000 And like, that's historic American policy.

02:02:58.000 Like, we did that to Japan in the late 19th century.

02:03:01.000 We went there to open up their market by force.

02:03:03.000 Like, these things, we didn't declare war, obviously, but these things happen.

02:03:06.000 Like, this is the way that empires conduct affairs.

02:03:08.000 It's like, no, everyone, if you're going to be in our sphere, which is the Western Hemisphere is outlined specifically by the National Security Strategy.

02:03:15.000 It's like, yeah, we're going to go in and impose our will.

02:03:18.000 Granted, I think Venezuela also, like, a factor no one's talking about is that a lot of it, too, is because there's a huge component of the Trump administration that came from Florida.

02:03:26.000 And in Florida, much of the constituents there are Cuban.

02:03:29.000 They have this long-standing beef with Maduro.

02:03:32.000 And so a huge component of that is them settling that score as well, in addition to the petrodollar opening the market, that sort of thing.

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02:03:59.000 Just want to say, go out and check out this film, An Inconvenient Study.

02:04:02.000 If vaccines are so great, then we should be able to compare vaccinated to unvaccinated kids and show that they're healthier.

02:04:09.000 Henry Ford did that study because I challenged them to do it.

02:04:12.000 Now they're threatening to sue because I put out a film about it.

02:04:16.000 So you may want to check it out, an inconvenience study.com.

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02:09:49.000 Welcome to the uncensored portion of TimCastIRL, the Rumble and Discord exclusive.

02:09:57.000 Tonight we're going to talk a little bit about Dell's movie, An Inconvenient Study.

02:10:01.000 We've got the website pulled up, and this is the trailer, right?

02:10:06.000 How long is the trailer?

02:10:07.000 The trailer's like three months.

02:10:08.000 I'm Del Bigtree.

02:10:10.000 Oh, no, that's the movie.

02:10:11.000 Oh, that's the actual movie.

02:10:13.000 It's an hour and a half.

02:10:14.000 So that's what we'll have for you.

02:10:15.000 We're going to watch tonight.

02:10:17.000 But we're going to have Del talk a little bit about the study.

02:10:19.000 It's about the story of the story.

02:10:22.000 I think it's about the biggest story there is.

02:10:25.000 I was a producer on the CBS Talks with the doctors, and then I started investigating vaccines and vaccine safety.

02:10:31.000 I made a movie called Vax back in 2016, which is credited with igniting the medical freedom movement around the world.

02:10:38.000 But while I was on tour in 2016, someone said to me, hey, I know the head of infectious disease at Henry Ford Health, which is one of our biggest research institutes in the world.

02:10:48.000 And would you like to have dinner with him?

02:10:50.000 I said, sure.

02:10:51.000 So I sat down to dinner with him and a guy named Dr. Marcus Zervos, and he sat down with me and he said, you know, I watched your film, very compelling.

02:11:00.000 It was nice that he was even sitting there.

02:11:02.000 Most doctors were calling us baby killers at the time.

02:11:05.000 But he said to me, you know, you've been saying something as I'm seeing on this tour.

02:11:09.000 I knew I was going to have dinner with you.

02:11:11.000 You keep saying that they've never done the proper safety studies to establish that vaccines are safe.

02:11:17.000 He says, obviously, I take issue with that.

02:11:18.000 I sit on the biggest database in the world.

02:11:20.000 So I went and did my research so I could bring it to you to show you.

02:11:24.000 And he said, and I'm shocked that I have to sit across this table and tell you, you're right.

02:11:28.000 There have never been, this is the work that I've got a nonprofit.

02:11:31.000 I've sued the government.

02:11:32.000 I've won against FDA, CDC, Health and Human Services, NIH.

02:11:36.000 This is the biggest fraud and the biggest lie in the history of the world.

02:11:40.000 I could go into the numbers and why I'm saying that.

02:11:42.000 There's not a bigger issue, I don't think, in this world or a bigger cover-up than the vaccine issue.

02:11:47.000 But what I said to him at that moment, I said, look, if vaccines are, you love vaccines, he said, I'm pro-vaccine, obviously.

02:11:53.000 I said, would you ever do a comparative study that compares the health outcomes of vaccinated kids with unvaccinated kids?

02:11:59.000 And he said, sure, I would do that study.

02:12:01.000 This is something that we've, you know, the movement, anti-vax, whatever you want to call the medical freedom movement, has been asking for for decades, if not a century, since these things were created.

02:12:11.000 So here's this top scientist, infectious disease, so he would do it.

02:12:16.000 I hounded him.

02:12:17.000 It took him all the way till 2020, so four years.

02:12:19.000 He finally did the study.

02:12:20.000 And I had only had one rule.

02:12:22.000 I said, whatever you find, publish it.

02:12:24.000 And I'm assuming he's going to be on the side of vaccine, so probably going to manipulate that study as best he can.

02:12:29.000 These are all assumptions, of course.

02:12:30.000 I have to be very careful because I have a cease and desist letter that's been sent to me.

02:12:34.000 So I'm trying to represent their side as best as I can.

02:12:38.000 But ultimately, he said, I can't publish this study.

02:12:42.000 I said, why?

02:12:42.000 And he said, I, Del, when I agreed to do this study, I did not agree to end the vaccine program.

02:12:47.000 I was like, what do you mean?

02:12:48.000 He's like, this study is really bad.

02:12:50.000 And so he wouldn't publish it.

02:12:52.000 By 2022, I finally was going to, I actually had a speaking engagement up in Detroit.

02:12:56.000 And I said, hey, I'm going to be up in Detroit.

02:12:58.000 Let's get dinner.

02:13:00.000 And nice guy.

02:13:01.000 I like him.

02:13:02.000 I'm sure he's done great work, some great science throughout his life.

02:13:07.000 But I thought the world should probably see this study.

02:13:09.000 So I brought hidden cameras and recording equipment when I went to dinner with him and recorded that whole conversation.

02:13:15.000 That's the body of this film.

02:13:16.000 It's fascinating.

02:13:18.000 More than just what the study shows, it's just seeing how conflicted this scientist is, how terrified he is for his career should this study get out.

02:13:28.000 And so the heart of it, really, what the study found, it looked at 18,500 kids.

02:13:33.000 2,000 of them are unvaccinated.

02:13:34.000 So it's the biggest study of its kind.

02:13:37.000 And it found that the conclusion in the study is that a child that's vaccinated was 2.5 times more likely to suffer chronic disease in their life, six times more likely to have neurodevelopmental disorder, six times more likely to have autoimmune disease.

02:13:52.000 And they looked at a time-to-date, you know, sort of graph.

02:13:56.000 And within 10 years, what was the likelihood a vaccinated child would have a chronic disease versus an unvaccinated child?

02:14:03.000 And they found that 57% of kids that were born into that Henry Ford system that were vaccinated were going to have chronic disease, and only 17% of the unvaccinated.

02:14:13.000 So the study is a mind-blower.

02:14:15.000 They didn't publish it.

02:14:16.000 I want to make it clear.

02:14:17.000 This is a film about an unpublished study, has not gone through peer review, but scientists around the world are looking at it.

02:14:23.000 Guy like Peter Gutcha, who was a Cochrane collaboration founder, that's like the biggest scientist, one of the most prestigious scientific bodies we have.

02:14:34.000 He looked at the study and said, I see what Henry Ford's complaining about.

02:14:38.000 It cannot explain this big a signal.

02:14:41.000 And I just want to say, lastly, this study has been done four or five times, but with like home school groups, like small groups, not an establishment like Henry Ford, every single time it's showing the same thing.

02:14:51.000 The vaccinated are chronically sick compared to the unvaccinated.

02:14:55.000 And I would just say this, it's the question I ask in the movie.

02:14:58.000 If vaccines are actually making our children healthier, why is not a single government in the world, not a single regulatory agency, and not a single mainstream medical establishment able to show us a study that compared vaccinated kids to unvaccinated kids and showed us that the vaccinated are actually healthier.

02:15:17.000 I think that's shocking.

02:15:18.000 In the 100 or whatever years we've been using these things, you cannot prove to us that they're making us healthier.

02:15:25.000 And the only studies that are being done show the exact opposite.

02:15:27.000 Of course, they're tearing down, they tear down the studies, but why won't they do one of their own?

02:15:31.000 When you say that kids are having more chronic disease, does that mean that the vaccinations are not preventing the diseases?

02:15:42.000 No, totally different story.

02:15:43.000 Totally different story.

02:15:44.000 Can you get into that?

02:15:45.000 Yeah, so what's interesting is we talk about a study that really set this conversation off in the 1980s in Guinea-Bissau, Africa, a guy named Peter Abe did a DTP vaccine program where he was vaccinating all of Guinea-Bissau.

02:16:03.000 So 30 years later, he realized, you know what?

02:16:06.000 I only got to half the kids because it was all very specific on age and difficulty getting to areas, but they have really good records who said, let me compare the health outcomes of the children 30 years later that got the DTP vaccine program I ran versus those that didn't.

02:16:21.000 And he was shocked to discover that the kids that received the DTP vaccine died at five times the rate of those that didn't receive it.

02:16:29.000 They did not die of diphtheria, tetanus, and pertussis.

02:16:32.000 They did better with that.

02:16:33.000 But they died of all the other things: malaria and encephalitis, all sorts of river blood, like all the things that.

02:16:40.000 So, what he discovered, and they've done this study multiple times now, looking at it, and it's the problem with the vaccine program.

02:16:46.000 All we looked at is it's stopping the disease that we're trying to stop, but what did it do to your overall health?

02:16:53.000 And what it looks like is destroying the immune system so they couldn't protect themselves against other diseases.

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