00:03:37.000All of the kind of drama behind the scenes in the political world, what's really going on.
00:03:41.000I only say I was here to talk to Tim because I'll be honest, the last episode of Tim Cast I watched was the episode where he reviewed my book and said I was lying about everything.
00:03:50.000So I wanted to confront him on the show and show him all the evidence that I was telling the truth, not just for myself, but for the 40 plus other victims of the Tate brothers and their human trafficking campaign.
00:04:15.000So we're going to start off with this story from Fox News about the Wisconsin judge, and then we'll get into the drama.
00:04:22.000So, former Wisconsin Judge Hannah Dugan avoids jail time for obstructing the arrest of illegal immigrants.
00:04:28.000Former Wisconsin Judge Hannah Dugan was ordered Wednesday to pay a $5,000 fine for obstructing the arrest of an illegal immigrant at a courthouse, but will not serve any prison time at all.
00:04:39.000I think this is a situation where an otherwise good person Upset by immigration policies in this country, made a bad decision in the moment, said U.S. District Judge Lynn Edelman.
00:04:50.000Dugan, 66, was convicted of felony obstruction last year after federal agents attempted to serve a warrant to Eduardo Flores Ruez on April 18, 2025.
00:04:58.000She was acquitted of concealing an individual to prevent an arrest, a misdemeanor she faced up to five years in prison.
00:05:05.000Prosecutors had asked that Dugan be sentenced to between 15 and 21 months.
00:05:10.000Look, if you are actually aiding and abetting a criminal, And you get charged with a felony, you should go to jail, right?
00:05:18.000Like that shouldn't, you shouldn't be able to avoid jail time just because you're a judge.
00:06:58.000I really respect that when we were talking, you were like, we've been going over the same 10 topics on this show over and over again for the last decade.
00:07:09.000I was complaining that, like, I don't maybe not have enough anything to really contribute because we've been having the same conversations about the same topic.
00:07:17.000It's a dialogue tree where you can't watch political content anymore because you can predict every single thing that every commentator is going to say.
00:07:23.000Because if you go off the plantation of the 20 potential talking points, you could get kicked out of the small pool of commentators that exists right now.
00:08:54.000Because I wrote it for me when I was younger.
00:08:56.000I actually just got an email two days ago from a young girl who said, I used to watch your videos when I was younger, and I fell into kind of believing everything in the media world was real.
00:09:04.000It almost ruined my life, and I read your book, and it helped me get out of that.
00:09:07.000That's right, but it also helped people understand.
00:09:09.000I felt bad for you when you wrote that because you got a lot of backlash, right?
00:09:26.000I've already testified in the Romanian court case.
00:09:28.000My information was going to be leaked.
00:09:30.000The Tate brothers already have actually just recently got pulled into court on 11 separate charges of trying to intimidate and destroy the reputations of witnesses.
00:09:39.000The second I joined those cases, there was going to be a mass campaign against me.
00:09:44.000My name was going to be all over the place, and the Tate brothers were going to be able to just slander me all over the board.
00:09:49.000They already paid Milo Yiannopoulos, his firm Tarantula, to try to destroy my reputation before.
00:09:54.000He came out with articles about me in 2019 post the incident that.
00:10:00.000So it was kind of a I can come out with my story and then join the cases and testify, or they can come out with their campaigns and bots to try to destroy my reputation.
00:10:10.000Either way, my reputation is getting dragged through the mud.
00:10:13.000But I was the only one with medical evidence from the time.
00:10:15.000If you own it, then it's your, then you own it.
00:10:19.000So I had medical evidence from the time.
00:10:21.000Somehow I was able to predict years before they were famous that his MO was strangulation.
00:10:26.000Three years before the, um, Vice article came out saying that's what he did to all the other victims in the UK.
00:10:32.000It would be literally impossible for me to get a DeLorean and come back in time and decide to make up all this and make a medical report and know the MO just to sell a book that I've made barely any money off of in 2025.
00:10:47.000Can you give a little context for the viewers that aren't familiar with the situation about what you're talking about?
00:10:51.000Because there are people in the chat that are talking.
00:11:04.000He ran a webcam industry where he brought girls in, convinced them they were in love, he was going to marry them, took their passports, and made them do sexual content.
00:11:12.000The charges are against 40 plus victims, both in the UK and Romania.
00:11:20.000They just recently, actually, it was just the last week that it came out that they made over a million dollars on a 17 year old that they were sexually trafficking and sleeping with.
00:11:27.000And I didn't know at the time in 2018, but Tommy Robinson brought me out to meet Tate, claiming he was going to be a business investor for a kind of right wing company we would make.
00:11:37.000And I went to a, it's all very convoluted, but we went and had this business meeting.
00:12:10.000I don't want to make it a big media deal.
00:12:12.000And then years later, he starts going viral online for having human trafficking, mass assault, rape cases, all these things.
00:12:19.000And I'm feeling guilty as hell because I know I have contemporary medical evidence and text message evidence that I can give to the courts.
00:12:25.000But I don't want to deal with the online shitstorm that's going to come from that.
00:12:28.000I'm literally the girl who built her career on, you know, I'm not a feminist.
00:12:32.000All these women are lying, da, So I sit on this evidence for years and years and years.
00:12:37.000And eventually, after various kind of career incidents, including the tenant media scandal, My text messages with Steven being released, all this kind of stuff.
00:12:45.000I'm like, why am I sitting here on this pile of lies that I'm telling that make me miserable?
00:12:51.000I need to just tell the truth about all of it, join the court cases, take a step back from media, and get my head back in order because I think all of this is kind of built on bullshit.
00:15:11.000You said in one of your books or your things that Kaylin and like Tommy was really angry because Kaylin and George were working with you in your documentary and you guys were down.
00:15:33.000But so what I'm saying is like, You were upset that, you know, like you, I said to you, like, no, no, no, they were there because, um, I know because I saw them at a bar or whatever and they were with Tommy and getting married.
00:16:42.000Maybe it's, you know, he got the information wrong.
00:16:44.000But, like, the other day, he reported that I worked for Hope Not Hate, which Hope Not Hate then responded to and said, not only has she never worked for us, we got her banned from the UK, which is true.
00:16:54.000And Tommy's met with us multiple times.
00:16:57.000I published multiple responses to Tommy's lies about me, which he will never respond to.
00:17:05.000He won't be able to give one because he's lying, Lisa.
00:17:09.000And he's lying to protect his ass because he brought me out there knowing full well who Tate is because they worked together in Luton when they were gangsters when they were younger.
00:17:17.000Listen, I've been working with Tommy for a really long time.
00:17:19.000I don't see him trying to protect his ass.
00:18:31.000I'm helping him get his lawyers because I was involved in a lot of that stuff because I was there when we first met Bailey and interviewed Bailey.
00:20:21.000But I will tell you right now, those people were being rounded.
00:20:24.000Like, we had to go get their clothes out of a building.
00:20:27.000And there were Muslim gangs people riding around in a circle in Huntersfield, okay, riding around us to threaten those people.
00:20:36.000I don't deny that there was not only threats going on, there was threats going on on both sides.
00:20:39.000The family, the Hijazi family had to get CCTV, they had to pull the kids out of school, they had to move neighborhoods, and I'm sure the other way around because politics is incredibly radicalized with insane people on both sides who don't read court cases, who don't care about the facts, who are willing to make up things.
00:21:02.000We had stacks of, and we brought them with us to meet them for that interview, stacks of Facebook documents, like printouts of people saying that this is how this guy behaves.
00:21:12.000Including the woman who said that she lied and she made the decision.
00:21:28.000I would encourage people to go read the case themselves or go read my article on Substack about it because it's the evidence is pretty compelling if you read it.
00:21:35.000But this is like, we are now in the weeks.
00:21:38.000The synopsis, my point is that we wanted to know why she read the book.
00:21:42.000Yeah, this is kind of a right now, this is actually kind of one of the reasons that I'm not even smoking on, dude.
00:22:55.000You guys are kind of against the Candace Owensification conspiracy stuff.
00:22:58.000I think the way that the right wing ecosystem is formed right now, just trying to get hot takes as quick as possible, is resulting in the dumbest stuff being amplified.
00:23:08.000Do you think that that's just the right wing ecosystem?
00:23:10.000Of course, but it's like this tit for tat.
00:23:12.000Everyone was like, well, the left wing media lied, so now we have to be retards to it.
00:23:16.000No, that's not really what I'm thinking.
00:23:17.000The point that I'm making is not about the right wing or the left wing or who's worse or whatever.
00:23:23.000Right now, the way that people get their information is all hot takes, right?
00:23:27.000That's the entire design of like X. People's Facebook feeds are very rarely are they actually, you know, they don't actually lay out stories or if they do, they have like a, you know, a headline and then a, you know, a link to an article that they likely haven't read.
00:23:42.000And I mean, I'll be, look, I'll be the first person to admit that there have definitely been times where I'll see an article on X or something like that and I'll retweet the article without reading the whole thing.
00:23:52.000I'll like, you know, just read the headline or whatever.
00:23:54.000It's just how the media ecosystem works now.
00:23:56.000So, do you think that's just kind of the way that modern information is disseminated?
00:24:34.000Now, it doesn't economically make sense to go and do journalism.
00:24:37.000It makes sense to steal stories from other people and comment on them.
00:24:41.000And then we're stealing stories from people who weren't there, from people who weren't there, from people who weren't there that are sitting in their basements and not experiencing real life.
00:24:47.000And we're having a collapse of any legitimate conversation.
00:24:50.000Like, all of the people online are talking about phenomenons that no one in day to day life cares about for the most part.
00:26:21.000Things and people have their own versions of things, and then there's the truth.
00:26:26.000A lie is, this is maybe semantics, but lies are motivated, and if you get something wrong, you get something wrong.
00:26:31.000But the question is, do people actually want to push a narrative regardless of whether or not it's true, or are they actually just getting something wrong?
00:26:40.000See, I'd be okay with accepting that Tommy just made a mistake if he responded to any of my, like I just retweeted, you can go to my Twitter and check out my response to him, Power to Free Speech.
00:27:02.000I'm going to look into this a little further.
00:27:04.000But the problem is he's friends and he's complicit and he's in too deep.
00:27:08.000The funny thing is, is like when you say he's friends with the Tate Brothers, I have texts with him where he was irritated with the Tate Brothers.
00:27:14.000Of course he's irritated because their connection is wrecking his reputation with them.
00:27:18.000No, he was irritated with them because of their like, Turn to Islam for a while or whatever, like going to.
00:27:27.000But whatever, my point is, like, he was irritated with them.
00:27:29.000So, like, to blindly defend them for whatever, like, I don't want to get into the Tommy stuff, but to blindly defend them, like, I don't think that that's like his motivation there because there's times where he's been increasingly irritated with them.
00:27:42.000He's like, you know, they're encouraging people to, you know, turn to Islam and things like that.
00:28:38.000And you know, I'm not even saying, I'm not saying, I'm not saying that as like some, oh, the Jews, blah, blah.
00:28:42.000I'm saying this as in like everyone in this space is being foreign funded or corporate funded right now.
00:28:47.000Like it's over 50% of the people in, like I do believe there are political groups.
00:28:53.000Like I think Tim Cass, they came from kind of the original crew of political influencers, made money organically for sure.
00:28:58.000Daily Wire, you know, they're American funded.
00:29:00.000But like, All of the tons of the dissident media, which were supposed to be attacking the mainstream as being controlled, are now entirely foreign funded and controlled.
00:29:10.000Like the amount of money coming, I mean, look at the Russia stuff.
00:29:13.000Okay, let me talk about the Tenet Media thing.
00:29:31.000The idea of pulling funding isn't we're going to tell you what to do.
00:29:35.000It's they find people who are against the mainstream media because the mainstream media are against Russia, and they try to amplify those people.
00:29:44.000Just because this is what I had to say in my parliament hearing with the Canadian government, they're like, well, you were paid to say that.
00:30:00.000But there is a truth that when Russia or China or Israel fund certain people, even if they don't know, I think most of the time they do, there is a purpose behind what they're doing.
00:30:11.000I've heard this argument, though, that it's like.
00:30:13.000You think they just did it for no reason?
00:31:47.000If you rely on ad revenue, you're basically compelled to the core.
00:31:50.000Well, no, but that's not what we're talking about, though.
00:31:54.000We're not talking about like actual foreign influence from countries.
00:31:57.000Even for tweets people send, like there are people that work within the political space that are given large sums of money just to talk to influencers and say, hey, tweet out that you like this candidate.
00:32:07.000And I've been contacted by these people.
00:32:09.000I know people who get tons of money doing this all day long.
00:32:12.000And none of it is ever going to be discovered until maybe like 10 years from now.
00:32:17.000You find out the CIA was doing XYZ like 50 years later when they release the documents or do the actual studies.
00:32:22.000And when you're in it and you've I've lived in the media ecosystem for 10 years.
00:32:26.000Like, it's so scary because I see it and I see all of the stuff that the public don't see, and no one's going to talk about it because we're all benefiting too much.
00:32:56.000If China is somehow involved in, or China or Cuba are somehow involved in giving Hassan Piker money, they're not giving Hassan Piker money to change his opinion.
00:33:05.000He already has these opinions and they're just trying to promote him.
00:33:10.000So, the point that I'm making is how disingenuous is it if people are like, oh, this person has these opinions, so let's promote them and we'll work?
00:33:18.000I think it's more convoluted than people even give it credit to.
00:33:21.000Because I remember in 2018, I was invited to Russia and I went there that summer.
00:33:26.000And I was invited there by a Belgian politician who, like, I paid for everything, but he just kind of made little suggestions here and there.
00:33:35.000And he kept insisting go to the Donbass and do a story on the Russian oppression there.
00:33:52.000And not only that, years later, I find out, oh my goodness, Russia has invaded the Donbass based on this exact reason he wanted me to do a documentary on.
00:34:28.000And it affects, we're all psychologically prone to be affected by this.
00:34:33.000And then the mass follows what the influencers and the bots say.
00:34:36.000So you'll get not only a foreign influencer that's funding a creator that they agree with, but then they'll also potentially be funding bot campaigns to get that creator to change their opinions.
00:34:45.000And also about foreign money, like, How deep does the inception go?
00:34:48.000Because if I take a contract from an American business that's 20% owned by some guy that owns like 19 companies, one of them's a Russian company.
00:34:56.000It turns out that his grandpa owns like a Russian oil rig and he's got like a trust.
00:35:15.000We're not talking about direct funding from like a British oligarch.
00:35:19.000But it's like you got to kind of lay it if you don't.
00:35:21.000But the thing is, also, you kind of have an obligation to do diligence where you have to kind of be like, hey, where did you get your money?
00:35:51.000Basically, commit political suicide to not be playing these games.
00:35:54.000I think crowdfunding is where it's at.
00:35:56.000If you can get people don't trust crowdfunding anymore because there's been so many scams.
00:36:00.000I used to do crowdfunding back in the day, and then it was like scam after scam after scam.
00:36:03.000Crowdfunding is getting more difficult unless you have like massive media backing already, like a monthly fee, like nine bucks a month for your website.
00:36:12.000Yeah, but that's where I think stuff like Timcast and others have managed to build themselves a little more organically from the beginning, but then even.
00:36:21.000Tim got caught up in the tenant stuff, and even audience capture is still there.
00:36:25.000And then you have to acquiesce to the culture of clickbait to remain relevant.
00:36:29.000So it's everything is leaning in the direction of we're intellectually screwed.
00:36:35.000Like become part of the machine or fade away.
00:36:38.000Or start an entirely new technocracy that, I mean, I do have faith in Elon's X movement with X. Do you have faith in Elon's X?
00:37:01.000Graham Plattner drops out of Senate race, allowing Maine Democrats to replace him.
00:37:05.000His decision comes within days of a key deadline allowing Maine's Democratic Party to select a new candidate to face Republican Senator Susan Collins in a critical contest for Senate control.
00:37:15.000Hey, Carter, let me have this here for a second.
00:38:51.000What do you guys think of this, though?
00:38:52.000What do you think of the accusations and everything?
00:38:54.000I think it's weird that the left didn't care about them when it came from a Republican woman, but as soon as it came from a socialist lefty woman, now they care, and now it's believe all women, and now they believe them, and now they want them out.
00:39:04.000But that's really only because he's losing.
00:39:12.000Well, I think, look, I mean, honestly, like, he has enough.
00:39:15.000Any of the individual allegations against him were probably enough to tank a candidacy, you know, 10 years ago or so, whether it be sexting or whether it be the.
00:39:29.000Well, I mean, honestly, to be fair, honestly, before Donald Trump, right?
00:39:34.000Before Donald Trump, this was kind of the thing that would end a career, or at least any one individual allegation was enough to end a career.
00:39:42.000And now, you know, it takes significant, continuous.
00:39:49.000Allegations for him to finally step down.
00:39:52.000But like this kind of thing is nowadays, it takes so much to get someone to be booted from a campaign, you know?
00:40:01.000And I honestly, I do think that a lot of that is because of Donald Trump, just because Donald Trump has always been so like, you know, I don't care what people say, I'm going to keep doing it.
00:40:09.000Partially, it's because I think partially it's because of Donald Trump, and also partially because the left has been so good at sliming even people like Mitt Romney, right?
00:40:18.000Like Mitt Romney was called a Uh, Nazi, they were saying that Mitt Romney intentionally killed a dog, and Republicans just kind of got to the point where they were just like, No, we don't care what you say because you're going to say all these things, anyways.
00:40:29.000And that's a sentiment that you see online a lot, right?
00:40:32.000A lot of the people that are like, Oh, you know, you're a racist, blah blah blah.
00:40:36.000And people are just like, Look, unless you have something, some actual thing that I've said or whatever that's actually racist, I don't care what you, what accusation you throw at me.
00:40:44.000Just because you say, Oh, you, this policy means that you're a racist, I'm just going to disregard what you say, that's kind of where we've gone, and that means that.
00:40:53.000Like the ones against Platner and stuff, they get kind of taken with a grain of salt, and it takes things mounting over and over.
00:40:59.000Before we were talking about the show, we were talking about male and female ways of tearing each other apart.
00:41:05.000And one of them is, I said, female version is like character assassination.
00:41:08.000This is a very feminist, this whole cancel culture thing is a very feminist, it's not necessarily feminist, more is feminine way of dismantling your opponent.
00:41:18.000You can't expect people to be like, oh, I'm going to go physically get into a confrontation with this guy.
00:41:23.000It's like when you're dealing with posting things on the internet, you don't have any other recourse other than to say, well, This person is making these accusations, so I'm going to respond to these accusations, etc.
00:41:35.000The internet kind of fosters that kind of interaction.
00:41:57.000I mean, they're a little more critical of this, whereas, like, I. Once again, there's like a lot of people on the right that have way worse.
00:42:04.000Accusations than him that get endlessly defended on the right.
00:42:06.000That's kind of like the thing right now.
00:42:22.000People immediately kind of turned to like the right wing culture because obviously they're going to be a little more skeptical because there was the whole 2015, 2016 anti feminist stuff, which I think there was a lot of fair critique there about, you know, the Me Too going too far, everything.
00:45:07.000We've gone out and sang karaoke and had some beers.
00:45:11.000But here's the thing I haven't seen you do that, right?
00:45:13.000But that's the problem with the internet they're like, well, I haven't seen my favorite influencer do these things, so it must not be true.
00:45:24.000And the problem with the right is that there is more of a, you know, A pressure to keep up a certain image, and people really kill themselves and bend over backwards to try to keep that image publicly.
00:45:37.000And it's sometimes like the I think there's a virtue in wanting it, wanting to live this way.
00:45:41.000And then, yeah, people fall short because they're human and they're they, you know, we are sinners and we are all there's a difference.
00:45:48.000There's a difference between falling short and going out for a weekend and raging, just railing lines of coke, right?
00:45:54.000Like, there's a distinct difference between that.
00:45:56.000Like, I mean, it depends on like you have some psychological trauma and like there's something wrong with you, and like you know, you've had something.
00:46:07.000But I just don't think that if they're trying to live their life righteously and then they fall off the wagon, that they're irredeemable and that what they're saying is now no longer true.
00:46:17.000The internet isn't the right place to have these conversations often because it's just a bunch of sharks waiting for blood.
00:46:22.000But also because the internet isn't the place to have these conversations, but post COVID, we've all been forced to have our reality on the internet.
00:46:29.000I don't think we're having a lot of honest conversations about what life really is like because I agree with that.
00:46:34.000It's just no one, everyone wants to put their best foot.
00:47:53.000But people are, and I've been saying this for a long time, craving authenticity, right?
00:47:57.000Like, just like there are so many, like you look at the Fox News types or the buttoned up people right in front of their things, just reading a teleprompter.
00:48:05.000Like, people don't want to see that anymore and they want you to be real and they want to feel like they can trust you.
00:48:08.000And if you say things like, I don't shower for a couple of days, you seem more authentic and honest, right?
00:48:14.000Like, that's, It's admissions against your own interest that I believe, right?
00:48:18.000If you're saying something that it's like, oh, you're going to lose money, followers, or reputational status, I'll believe that.
00:48:23.000Anything that's not an admission against interest on the internet, you can, it's like, do you believe it?
00:48:36.000They could be playing underwater backgammon.
00:48:37.000I mean, I'm just saying, like, I've seen that, too.
00:48:41.000I just think that what people need to realize is that everybody is human, everybody is flawed.
00:48:45.000We all have, Issues that we deal with.
00:48:48.000And I, but I really believe, and maybe I don't believe this, but I, I guess I'm torn.
00:48:52.000I do think that for a lot of the times that people are saying the things that they really do believe, I don't think anybody is in here saying things that they don't agree with.
00:49:03.000Do I think they do it for the right intentions?
00:49:05.000I think this is where the problem, like when we were arguing earlier, and this is what I always try to stress with political arguments, like I'm frustrated and that wasn't political.
00:52:56.000So from NBC News, Graham Platter announced Wednesday he's ending his Senate campaign, capping a chaotic few days of uncertainty and Democratic infighting, and leaving the party without a candidate in the vitally important Maine race this fall.
00:53:09.000The announcement by the populist progressive came after a woman he dated accused him of sexual assault in 2021, causing his support to hemorrhage even among top Democrat allies.
00:53:19.000Who rescinded their endorsement and called on him to drop out.
00:53:22.000In a video message posted on X, Platner denied the allegations as false, but he said he has placed an immense amount of weight on him, and as he only has until Monday to decide whether to continue his candidacy.
00:53:34.000He said if he continued, he'd lose his ability to fundraise, access voter data, and run a campaign.
00:53:40.000What comes next needs to come from the people, needs to come from the people of Maine, Platner said.
00:53:44.000It needs to be open, transparent, and democratic.
00:53:46.000It needs to be reflecting the will and the values of the people that.
00:53:49.000Built this movement, which is actually kind of funny considering he said that he wants to select who is going to be replacing him.
00:53:56.000So, do you guys feel like Platner has his finger on the pulse of Maine, or do you think that he's just looking for someone that is going to be?
00:54:04.000And look, I'm an open partisan, I make no bones about it.
00:54:07.000Like, I'm anti leftist, so just so we all know here.
00:54:12.000Do you think that he's just looking for someone that would actually be approved by the DSA or the far left?
00:54:19.000Because he tends to be a fairly far left candidate.
00:54:22.000I don't know if he's actually looking for approval.
00:54:29.000I bet this is like both giving him a chance to kind of get his, you know, his feelings involved in the process, but also giving him, the party's giving him a chance to save face and look like he's not a dog getting kicked out in the middle of the night.
00:54:44.000I mean, everyone, but I mean, to say that giving him a chance to save face, I mean, like, literally everybody has come out and said he needs to drop out.
00:55:26.000Well, like, like, why would I care, like, what who he thinks he's going to appoint?
00:55:31.000Like, they're going to put up a leftist anyway, right?
00:55:34.000Like, does it matter if it's like a Democrat socialist or a communist or what they're all the same to me, right?
00:55:40.000It's going to matter if the person can be elected because Susan Collins, whether or not she's an actually good Republican, and people will argue about that.
00:55:52.000That's totally wrong because, look, on it, I am not a fan of. fan of Susan Collins, but she does hold the seat and prevent an actually, say, active Democrat from sitting there.
00:56:02.000I'm just saying that, like, the question that you asked were, like, do you think that he wants to, he has his finger on the pulse and he, you know, he wants to elect a Democrat, like a real far lefty person.
00:56:16.000Like, well, why are we speculating about what his status is?
00:56:18.000Well, it matters because if they put someone that's actually far left, then it makes Susan, it would ostensibly, it would make, it would ostensibly make Susan Collins' chances better because she's, Considered a moderate.
00:56:29.000They're going to put a far lefty in there because if you look at all the candidates that are coming out, popping up all over the left wing of the party, they are all further and further to the left than they have been in 20 years.
00:57:00.000Well, no, they're saying that the Republicans have a worse chance because Susan Collins has.
00:57:05.000She kind of underperforms the polls or overperforms the polls.
00:57:09.000Historically, she polls at X and she does better than the polls kind of.
00:57:14.000That's because it's hard to meet an incumbent, like I said yesterday, because of all the resources that they have that come out of the MRA.
00:57:55.000She outperforms polls because she's the incumbent and she has extra touches.
00:57:59.000And, you know, there's people in Maine that are not motivated by, I don't know, the internet.
00:58:05.000Like, there's, you know, older people that are not in there, that are just like getting their mailers and happy with their constituent services.
00:58:12.000Like, if you look at the election with Rupert Lowe in the UK, everyone, if you were on X, you would have thought he had stolen that election.
00:58:20.000You know, at least he was going to go past Nigel Farage.
00:58:41.000That's like the only reason he's a normal person.
00:58:44.000He was out doing like retail politics.
00:58:46.000He was actually going out doing the work.
00:58:48.000Yeah, there's a lot of people that think that they're going to get like all their Facebook likes and that's enough and that's going to move the needle and it's not.
00:58:54.000I mean, we see it in smaller districts too.
00:59:33.000You know, it's that, that is all, and that's why, like, you look at the influencers of old, and someone made a video, everyone watched it that month.
00:59:59.000His fame has diffused in the last five years or six years?
01:00:01.000I think it's a lot of young people hitting like.
01:00:06.000Yeah, it's just the people that vote are not young people generally, right?
01:00:10.000The people that are voting are boomers.
01:00:11.000They're maybe some of the maybe Gen X, older millennials.
01:00:15.000Those are the people that are reliable voters.
01:00:16.000So if you see people on the internet that are getting a ton of likes, that still tends to be younger millennials, Gen Z, maybe Gen Alpha, especially when you're dealing with something like Mr. Beast, right?
01:00:26.000Like that's probably Gen Alpha, maybe younger Gen Z.
01:00:30.000So like that doesn't translate into actual votes because getting people out to vote when they're young people is.
01:01:15.000He said they're going to devolve into these, like, Tip for tat party politics things where people are like, I value the party, whatever the party.
01:01:21.000And it's like, bro, look for the best people.
01:01:22.000Look, the point that I mean, at the same time that you're saying you don't need a political party to win, you consistently say, oh, but look at the money, look at the money.
01:01:30.000Like that, the money is reflected through the party.
01:01:34.000It's what you do with the money that I talk about, which is the fame.
01:02:13.000Like, I think Spencer Pratt might have some mojo to be able to get into, like, National politics, but not like at the president, like he might be able to win a congressional seat.
01:02:22.000But like, that's like the only guy that I can think of that has a level of fame.
01:02:27.000And he doesn't, he wasn't even like particularly famous.
01:02:30.000Like, he was on a, like, on a, like, on a reality show, right?
01:02:33.000But he's got, he's got a very good team when it comes to social media.
01:02:37.000And his policies right now seem to be, you know, fairly friendly to be, seem to be being received by the right fairly friendly.
01:02:47.000So he, that's something he might be able to turn into.
01:03:11.000The reason I brought this up is you were saying, like, the tit for tat behind the scenes that she's got connections with her, what is it, MRA?
01:03:29.000She's got year, like, she doesn't have to spend campaign money up until 90 days before the election.
01:03:36.000So she has, like, our tax dollars to fund reaching out to people and talking to constituents all year, except for the 90 day blackout period right before the election.
01:03:47.000That's when she has to spend her money.
01:03:48.000Now, he has to spend his money the whole entire time to make the same amount.
01:04:11.000But if you send a postcard to somebody and tell them, like, we, you know, our office fixed 872 passports this year and we fixed blah, and talk about and highlight all the things that you've already done to help people in your thing while it's communicating with your constituents and not, quote, campaigning.
01:04:29.000It still is a touch and it still affects how the citizens of your district are spending all this time talking about your accolades as a representative or as a senator.
01:04:41.000And it's not saying, oh, you should vote for me in the fall.
01:04:44.000But you're reminding them, consistently reminding them, these are the good things that I've done for our district.
01:06:14.000And they're the biases that the people have.
01:06:16.000It really has nothing to do with, you know, how much they like a candidate.
01:06:21.000And again, this is another thing where I say that Donald Trump is an anomaly because Donald Trump was able to say, look, you know, I have this business experience.
01:06:28.000And that tends to be, at least with the right, the right says, well, you know, he knows how to run businesses.
01:06:33.000He's got experience in the business world and et cetera.
01:06:38.000Remember when he came down and he was like, oh, we're going to get rid of the illegals.
01:06:42.000They're sending their blah, blah, blah.
01:06:43.000Like that was something that was shocking to people.
01:06:46.000And there were people that, and myself included, I didn't have a concept of illegal immigration being a significant problem in 2016.
01:06:52.000And then the more he pointed at it, the more he shed light on it, the more I was like, oh, wow, this is actually something real.
01:06:57.000I think why he really won is because I remember like older people, my parents, that generation, that demographic were like, oh, he's saying the things that we always say to ourselves out loud or at the dinner table.
01:07:26.000Like, Spencer Pratt's very authentic, and I think, yeah, I think that was stolen from him, but like, it is a thing where if that narrative surfaces of like, he doesn't have enough experience, it would surface through the media in some fashion, whether articles written or TV shows.
01:07:42.000Counter media with a YouTube channel of 80 million subscribers and you're getting 60 million views per episode every week, you can counter that non experience argument very easily.
01:07:52.000Well, I don't know that you can counter it.
01:07:54.000I mean, if there's a narrative out there that says that you don't have experience, you have to convince people that you can still do the job even without experience.
01:09:28.000From CBS News Roommate of suspect in Charlie Kirk's assassination, given immunity in exchange for recorded statements.
01:09:35.000The preliminary hearing for the man charged with killing conservative activist Charlie Kirk resumed Wednesday afternoon with defense attorneys questioning the reliability of DNA testing that prosecutors say links the defendant to the suspected murder weapon.
01:09:47.000Prosecutors also reveal that the suspect's roommate was given immunity in exchange for providing recorded video statements to investigators about the case.
01:09:55.000Prosecutors are trying to convince state district judge Tony Graff that they have enough evidence to bring Tyler Robinson to trial on an aggravated murder charge.
01:10:03.000After the hearing concludes, which is expected to happen Friday, Graff must Determine if the case should be proceed, which experts say is likely.
01:10:11.000Robinson, 23, is charged with aggravated murder in Kirk's September 10th assassination on the Utah Valley University campus, for which prosecutors are seeking the death penalty.
01:10:20.000Robinson had no prior criminal record before his arrest in Kirk's shooting death.
01:10:24.000Look, this, the idea that they don't have enough evidence, I think that that is pretty, pretty absurd.
01:10:33.000They definitely have enough evidence to proceed past this point.
01:11:23.000I think that this guy knew exactly what was going on.
01:11:26.000Is there a chance that they're just delivering enough evidence to get the grand jury to say yes, and then they're saving evidence for the trial where they're like, oh, and by the way?
01:11:34.000If anybody wants to watch somebody break this down, like totally non political, whatever, the lawyer you know is covering this really well, and he's doing it from a completely neutral and just legal perspective.
01:11:52.000I'm like, you know, it's impossible that there's a conspiracy behind this.
01:11:57.000Of course, it's not impossible, but you have to have evidence.
01:12:01.000And the thing with the Candace stuff that I'm seeing online, like every right wing commentator is like, please, people, please, you have to side with reason right now.
01:12:12.000Like, I don't know what's happened with Candace.
01:12:14.000And it's like, what do you mean you don't know what's happened to Candace?
01:12:17.000Like Candace has been insane since she started her new show.
01:12:21.000But the problem is that the initial thing she was insane about was the Macron case.
01:12:25.000And the Macron case is not politically convenient for the right to talk about because it's funny to say that Macron's wife is a man.
01:12:32.000And no one is friends with Macron's wife, whereas people are friends with Erica Kirk.
01:12:36.000So no one was calling out this insanity back when.
01:12:38.000And I would recommend everyone watching this go and actually read the defamation suit against Candace because it is some of the most insane content to read.
01:12:47.000Like, it is insane how much she has been debunked, how badly her evidence, like, oh, it's her brother.
01:12:53.000Her brother literally showed up to court in person, has been seen in recent.
01:12:56.000Photographs with her, like all of this stuff to debunk this nonsense.
01:14:09.000There's a lot of really small issues that are not affecting us at a mass level that get addressed because they're politically fun to address.
01:14:16.000But when it's like, ooh, someone on my political team is spreading massive misinformation, and the left do this too, don't get me wrong.
01:14:22.000I think the right's doing it in the opposite way of what you're saying right now.
01:14:26.000Well, what I'm saying is I know a lot of regular wine moms, as you call them, or I call them baseball moms, or whatever, just people that are not political.
01:14:37.000Questions about the Charlie Kirk thing, like, you know, about how certain people behaved or how, you know, the type of wound or whatever their things are.
01:14:50.000And to just blow them off and to say that that's like the reason that they're doing it is because they're into true crime or whatever and ignore that Candace has like this, you know, six million people following her for this because they don't see anything weird about what happened with the thing is disingenuous, I think.
01:15:10.000I see what you're saying about Candace and being hyperbolic and throwing out crazy evidence and things like that.
01:15:16.000And I'm not saying that, I'm just talking about regular moms who don't even watch Candace say something doesn't feel right about the situation.
01:15:23.000And I feel like the right wing, let me just say this, because I've been getting it from a lot of people I know.
01:15:27.000I feel like the right thing, the right people say to me, people on the right, well, why can't it just be that a leftist did it?
01:15:33.000Why can't it just be that a leftist did it and they're the problem and they're bad and that now we got to attack each other and now we got to blame?
01:15:49.000And I've heard it from a bunch of people.
01:15:51.000But the problem is if you are someone that is genuinely concerned, and this is where my frustration comes in, if you actually care that much that you're watching like hours and hours of this stuff, go read the actual court cases.
01:16:04.000And this is how I felt about the Macron thing.
01:16:06.000It's like, okay, if you're so invested, you're going to watch a five to six part series about this, go read the court case.
01:16:11.000And you're going to feel like an effing moron after you do, unfortunately.
01:16:14.000And that's not your fault because a lot of people have.
01:16:17.000I felt like a moron after realizing a lot of stuff I've promoted sometimes has been inaccurate, or this is every time I've been like, oh my gosh, not only have I been wrong, I've spread this to a bunch of people because I have a platform.
01:16:27.000But it's like you have to be willing to rebuild your platform of reality and deciding like one influencer is your person.
01:16:35.000One, they're making so much money off this.
01:16:38.000Candace is making so much money off this.
01:16:41.000But you have to, but you do have to acknowledge that there are people that are actually genuinely.
01:16:56.000The people that are on the internet that are like amplifying her, like you're talking about the people that are like just the regular people that don't have a platform on their own, like they are committed to.
01:17:24.000The the I I constantly run into this on X because people love to go ahead and say, Oh, well, you know, you're just an Israel shill because you don't believe Candace and Sarah.
01:17:31.000And the point or the thing that they always say is, Oh, you believe the FBI.
01:17:35.000It is, it is when you're dealing with people that are totally conspiracy brained, it is always the next conspiracy.
01:17:43.000So, like, it's not just that it was Israel.
01:17:46.000If you believe the official narrative, then you probably got multiple shots or so the the.
01:17:54.000It's like if we're found innocent, then we're innocent and we were right all along.
01:17:58.000But if we're found guilty, then it's the Matrix attacking us.
01:18:00.000No matter what happens, it's always going to come out in your favor because that's the best way to gamble it.
01:18:07.000It's not that it's the best way to gamble it, it's that they're committed to that narrative.
01:18:12.000And there's a lot of people out there that are very, very anti Israel.
01:18:15.000So anything that would cast Israel in a bad light, they're like, oh, it must have been Israel that killed Charlie Kirk.
01:18:23.000Even though if you look at it, it's really, really, really.
01:18:26.000Ridiculous to think that it was Israel.
01:18:28.000And looking at the actual evidence, the evidence they have against Tyler, it is very likely that at the very least it is a legitimate prosecution because all the evidence that they have does point to him.
01:18:42.000But as soon as you say the evidence they have points to Tyler, they're like, oh, you believe the FBI now?
01:18:52.000There's other things going around too.
01:18:53.000I know a lot of people that are in the business that have issues or don't like.
01:18:58.000You know, some of this stuff around the court case about like what's going on with or TPUSA people, and they won't say it because they don't want to get hurt in the business for doing that too.
01:19:10.000Having criticism about TPUSA is not the same thing as taking a personal opinion.
01:19:33.000Well, that a lot of the Tyler Robinson stuff, there are a lot of people on the inside that say, Hey, this is suspicious, or I know this, or I've seen this, or I've heard this, or whatever.
01:19:41.000And they're like, But I'm not going to go out and say anything against Turning Point USA because I either work for them, or we're friendly with them, or we don't want to ruin a relationship with them.
01:21:29.000But if the FBI reports something they like, like if the FBI reported like mass immigration is destroying America, they'd be like, yes, you see, you see, you see people saying things like, you know, oh, the way that they interact with it, it's always as if, you know, they're the brilliant ones that are plugged into the real story.
01:21:48.000And if you believe anything other than them, You know, you're the schmuck.
01:22:46.000Because if you make a claim and Lisa's like, no, no, no, and claim something opposite, and I'm like, actually, Lisa, I don't know about that, but I believe you.
01:23:00.000But if you're not, but the people that are sure that it was like, you know, the people that are sure that it was Erica or the people that believe that it was someone involved in TPUSA that actually did it or the people that think that it was Israel or whatever, those people are not skeptical.
01:23:14.000They just reject your narrative and they say, no, no, no, I'm right.
01:23:39.000But I also think it feels so much better.
01:23:42.000Conspiracies and having hidden knowledge and listening to people talk about really inflated versions of topics, it feels better than actually reading boring information.
01:23:51.000And the problem is, too, is all of the topics people care about are going to be solved by the people reading the boring information and doing the boring things and going through the bureaucracy.
01:24:00.000That's where I see a lot of online political activism just being this black hole.
01:24:03.000Where it's like, I'm going to hit like and subscribe and amplify.
01:24:06.000Where it's like the people that are going and working at their school board and doing the boring paperwork that are actually having the biggest change.
01:24:13.000And then we all wonder, oh, why isn't society moving in our direction?
01:24:16.000Well, because no one wants to do the boring work.
01:24:18.000And actually, the far left people that you super hate and criticize, well, they're willing to sit for 10 years on a board that you said was bullshit.
01:24:27.000Yeah, that's a real problem that the right has.
01:24:30.000Honestly, I think that is a more significant problem on the right than any kind of online BS.
01:24:36.000It's the fact that people on the right don't want to go and do the.
01:24:46.000The fact that you do it or have done it just goes to show that you actually have done more than most of the people that on the right have done it.
01:25:13.000You know, that's my one of my life's goals.
01:25:15.000I think there will be, like, I am seeing, especially in young people, there is this pushback where it's like, actually, you're cooler if you don't have an Instagram.
01:25:21.000You're cooler if you're not spending all day on your phone.
01:25:23.000But it's like, once you've been programmed that way, like, I grew up on the internet.
01:25:28.000I was playing video games at three years old.
01:25:30.000You know, I'm programmed to be addicted to my phone, and so many young kids are being programmed that way.
01:25:34.000But if you can undo that programming and be one of the few people who can read books, who can be in person and be silent and think and not be constantly on the feedback loop of the online world, man, that's powerful.
01:25:47.000But It takes a lot of effort if you've already been programmed one way.
01:25:49.000If you're someone that's listening to shows all day, it's going to be like getting off of crack, literally.
01:25:55.000Have you guys gone through the phases where, because I went through phases where I listened to no podcasts, I was just creating stuff.
01:26:30.000It's also nice not to be alone because it brings a sense of community, right?
01:26:34.000You know, like there's a lonely, if you're alone, if you sit alone and you don't have a girlfriend or a wife or a husband or whatever, and then there's two guys hanging out and they're like friends, Joe Rogan and Ari Shafir, you know, and I'm like, God, somebody's there talking, I can be in the room with.
01:26:53.000And I'm not, not that I'm like, you know, Ian's the hippie at the table, if I understand correctly, but like stuff like meditation and just putting the phone down or just sitting with yourself, that does wonders for you.
01:27:06.000Like, I mean, I got a kid and so I spend time with my kid and stuff, but like if you can just put your device down and actually just sit with yourself for half an hour a day, you're probably miles ahead of all the people that are constantly on their phone, you know?
01:27:19.000And not that I'm not, like, I do listen to a lot of podcasts, I listen to a lot of stuff, I've, you know, I listen to a lot of YouTube stuff, but like, If you can just sit the thing down and just focus on something else, that's a big deal for your mental health.
01:27:50.000As long as you recognize it's not real life, this is why I think video games are healthier than online politics because you're aware that it's fake.
01:28:10.000I think this is where, like, a lot of young people, the 2008 financial crisis, everyone's parents were getting divorced and we were playing Just Dance, you know, in our bedroom or whatever.
01:28:18.000It's like everything when we were younger and shit was going wrong, you went on the internet to go make your Neopets character or your RuneScape character, and that was more fun.
01:28:28.000And now the grown up version of that is online politics.
01:29:11.000But it's like we're going, so like before the internet, we were having all these conversations about how material reality wasn't real life because it was actually spiritual reality and what was going on in our minds that was real.
01:29:23.000And we're like seeing, and the material world is like a separation from God.
01:29:26.000And now we're like multiple degrees of separation from the video game world.
01:29:29.000Well, you're talking about like that sounds like Beauregard's, I think Beauregard's simulacrum.
01:29:34.000So like there, he wrote a book, I think the Iraq War was not a real war, right?
01:29:38.000Like at one point, at some point in history, like a war had like an unpredictable outcome.
01:29:46.000We went into World War II and no one knew who was going to win.
01:29:50.000But then you look at the Iraq War, that wasn't a real war.
01:29:58.000But in a war, there's an unpredictable outcome.
01:30:02.000But everyone knew what was going to happen with the Iraq War.
01:30:05.000And this philosopher, his name is Borgia Gardia, in the 90s, he wrote the book, I think it was called The Iraq War Wasn't Real or something like that.
01:30:12.000But the point is reality has consequences.
01:30:37.000It's like people who keep rewatching TV shows.
01:30:40.000You want to rewatch reruns of The Office because you know what's going to happen and it's very comfortable.
01:30:44.000And that's why when you keep going back to the same political influencers, you know what they're going to say, you know what they're going to do.
01:31:03.000And the point about discomfort is a really big deal.
01:31:05.000Like the idea that you want, and that's, we talk about like the fact that young people, you know, they kind of like, they live like lives that have been made, you know, snowplow parents and stuff.
01:31:16.000They just kind of push all of the hardships away from their children so that way they don't ever have to struggle and you end up with a, a, A society of young people where things like opinions on the internet that they disagree with become quote unquote traumatic because they've never had to deal with discomfort and things like that.
01:31:37.000And look, I mean, not that I'm some kind of fucking big tough guy or whatever, but it's like I try to go to the gym and I exercise and I understand that like you get progress at the gym when it sucks.
01:31:48.000You know, it's like if there's a lot of people that I'm friends with that you know that never go to the gym or they have gone and they're like, oh, but it hurts so bad, and it's like that's the point.
01:32:36.000Not only that, but the idea, like, you look at the, and I know that this is going to be a partisan statement, and I fully admit that I'm a partisan.
01:32:44.000I don't care if Lauren looks down to me for it.
01:32:46.000But the fact of the matter is, you look at people on the left that don't want to exercise, they're out of shape, or they don't try to make themselves look presentable.
01:32:55.000The people that want to look good, usually that is a reflection of trying to put your best foot forward.
01:33:00.000And it is a good thing to put your best foot forward.
01:33:02.000But there's a realm where that goes too far, which is where you see the looks maxing praise on the right, where it's pure materialism.
01:33:24.000So, like, they've done studies where people that work from home, if they work in their pajamas, they are less productive than if they get dressed like they're actually going out and going to work.
01:33:58.000I can just wear, you know, just wear, because Pantera was super cool, and they just look, you know, they just look like they rolled out of bed and blah, blah, blah.
01:34:04.000And it affects the way, it affected not just the way that I felt, but it actually affected our performance.
01:34:10.000When I try to make sure that I'm clean shaven or at least don't have like scraggly beard and stuff, and I go on stage, I feel better about myself.
01:34:17.000I go on stage and I don't want to wear like ratty looking stuff.
01:34:21.000There are times where I wear stuff that is, that you know, like has strategic rips in it because it's a look I'm trying to get, but I don't go up there and look like I'm disheveled.
01:34:30.000I don't go up there with like looking like I haven't showered.
01:34:33.000I haven't done that in years and years.
01:34:34.000And it does make me feel better about being on stage and it makes me feel better about performing.
01:34:40.000And that's the kind of thing that like if you get up out of bed, When people talk about people that have depression, one of the things that they say about people with depression is get up and get dressed.
01:34:50.000If you just sit around in your pajamas all day.
01:34:53.000Oh, plus all those microorganisms seeping into your skin through the cotton.
01:35:00.000Because the point that I'm making is get up and get out of bed and brush your hair, brush your teeth, take a shower, and put on normal clothes as if you're going to go out and do something.
01:35:11.000So that way you're not laying around in pajamas.
01:35:13.000This is one of the reasons why I hate people that go to the airport dressed in pajamas.
01:35:18.000But you're saying just even putting your shoes on in your house, clean your shoes on in your house, like it will create you to feel like you're going somewhere, and then you'll start doing chores.
01:35:34.000You want to obviously not be a scumbag that lays around their own filth for three days, but you also don't want to put on airs to like trick people into thinking you're the second coming when you're like a demon.
01:35:52.000And so when they get those things, it doesn't fulfill because they actually want someone to love them for who they are and they're going about it the wrong way, right?
01:35:58.000Even Clavicular has come out and said, like, my life is a horror movie.
01:36:01.000I did this to try to be loved and have attention, but now all he has is attention for his outward image.
01:36:07.000I remember the first time I moved out of my house when I was like 19, 20 to Toronto.
01:36:11.000I had this feeling of something was wrong.
01:36:15.000And I realized that life doesn't have a soundtrack.
01:36:18.000And I thought life had a soundtrack because every morning my parents would wake up early and they'd put on Supertramp, they'd put on The Beatles, they'd put on Frank Sinatra, whatever it was, and make pancakes.
01:36:27.000And I was like, oh my gosh, life doesn't just automatically have a soundtrack.
01:36:30.000They had to do things to create a beautiful childhood for me.
01:36:34.000They had to do things to create a beautiful environment for me.
01:36:37.000And that's putting in effort to make life beautiful for family, for love of others.
01:39:09.000But that's not even where they were going with that.
01:39:11.000Like, they're saying that if you're, if you're, like, alarm-saving for intent, if you're doing it for the wrong reasons, that'll show, though.
01:43:42.000Trump admin launches its first major H 1B visa fraud investigation.
01:43:47.000The Trump administration is escalating its crackdown on immigration related fraud, launching its first major investigation into alleged H 1B and perm visa abuse, labor trafficking, and the displacement of American workers.
01:44:01.000Labor Department Inspector General Anthony D'Esposito told Fox Business on Wednesday.
01:44:06.000D'Esposito announced that the probe exclusively on Mornings with Maria, calling it the latest step in the administration's expanding anti fraud campaign ahead of Vice President JD Vance's nationwide fraud initiative.
01:44:19.000Event in Milwaukee set for later in the day.
01:44:22.000This is another example where fraud is fueling violent crime, he said.
01:44:25.000Much of the visa and human trafficking that we see when it comes to this foreign labor is tied to cartels.
01:44:32.000And this is the work that we should be doing, not only to make America safe again, but to make America more affordable again.
01:44:39.000I think that's an actual step in the right direction, but I don't think that the people that are most critical of the H 1B visa program are connecting it to crime.
01:44:50.000I think they're connecting it to the fact that people can't find a job.
01:44:53.000They're connecting it to big companies that will fire American workers so that way they can bring foreign workers in cheaper on H 1B visas.
01:45:01.000And the part of the reason why they do that with H 1B visas is because the visa itself is tied to employment.
01:45:06.000So you get a person from another country into the U.S. that has an H 1B visa and the company has leverage over them.
01:45:12.000They can say, look, if you don't want to work Saturday, maybe we'll fire you and you know, maybe you'll have to go back to the home to your home country because your visa is tied to your employment.
01:45:22.000And so it makes people afraid to turn down demands by their employer.
01:45:28.000So, I mean, Lisa, do you think that we should look at H 1B visas in totality and just get rid of all of them like I do?
01:45:37.000Oh, yeah, I would get rid of them all.
01:45:38.000I mean, they also have these like big farm, like, you know, H 1B visa farm things where like, you know, somebody in like, say, India will get a bunch of, apply for a bunch of visas and then farm them out for contractor work here and they will be beholden to them.
01:45:54.000And there's a lot of fraud and abuse in those too.
01:46:54.000I just think that you're kind of pathetic if you're sitting there hating on people and like writing things like, oh, these people care so much about me in a chat.
01:47:04.000Sorry for all our super chatters and all that, but the comment on somebody's YouTube channel to me is wild.
01:47:11.000We forget that there are crackheads on the internet.
01:47:13.000Like, we forget that half the people yelling at us, like, we would cross the street and be like, oh, that person's insane.
01:47:20.000Think about how you get like a nasty DM.
01:47:21.000Think about how you get like a nasty private DM from somebody you don't know saying like some horrific thing.
01:47:26.000Like, what a loser you have to be to message somebody, care enough to mess, take time out of your day to message somebody you don't know about.
01:48:11.000But my point is to even, like, write that, like, there's something wrong with you.
01:48:18.000For sure, it's a projection of emotional distress.
01:48:21.000It's really weird, and we don't care that you say those things because we think you're their ex girlfriend, you're their mom, you're their dad.
01:48:29.000It's like you're just a stand in for someone they can't get business, but like, I'm telling, I think it's weird.
01:48:34.000I'm just curious as to why you were like, Oh, we should start talking about the next topic when you're just like, As soon as we start talking about the topic, you're just gonna derail it.
01:49:22.000But I have a lot of respect for Lauren because whenever I have said something to her or confronted her or said, Hey, I don't like this, she actually, instead of talking shit behind my back, she will address it with me.
01:49:31.000There are very few people who do that.
01:50:41.000I like, I showed up here and I'm like, I'm not going to do a video about Tim disagreeing with me, I'm not going to do a video about Lisa disagreeing with me.
01:51:01.000Like, if Candace ever wanted to talk, I don't think I'm big enough for her to care, but I'd talk to her.
01:51:05.000So, as long as I think there's that aspect of, like, I'd talk to you instead of I'm going to talk shit and then I'm going to run when you want to actually have a conversation with me, cool.
01:51:13.000It's tough because if you've talked shit in the past, then you kind of got to own it when you see him face to face.
01:51:17.000Like, Dave Rubin, you're a coward if you don't.
01:51:19.000If you don't, like, I've written about having frustrations with the way this show is constructed.
01:51:25.000I've written about having frustrations about that episode.
01:51:27.000I'm not going to come on here and pretend I haven't done that.
01:51:32.000It's just like, Like you said, you have to be able to say it to their face when you're there.
01:51:36.000That's what authenticity and honesty is.
01:51:38.000If you want to actually heal, if you want to harm, you can scream about it into the void when they're not around and let other people pay you for it.
01:51:44.000But, like, if you really want to solve the problem, direct face to, you know, you know what I'd say about that, Ian?
01:51:50.000Smash the like button, share the show with all your friends, head on over to timcast.com, become a member so you can join our Discord, and head on over to rumble.com so you can watch the after show where Lisa and Lauren are actually going to fist fight because they like to.
01:52:15.000Marusha Dark says, I'm as anti war as Dave Smith, but the more Iran jerks us around, the more I'm okay with a coalition of boots on the ground to wipe out the IRGC.
01:52:25.000Not sure why Trump doesn't call for Israel, GCC, Kurds, Persians to do this.
01:52:30.000Because Iran is literally a mountain stronghold.
01:53:05.000You're also looking at media from the U.S., from the liberal economic order.
01:53:09.000So, like, I read this media about Iran attacked three.
01:53:13.000Tankers going through the Strait of Hormuz two days ago.
01:53:15.000Therefore, the US is totally in the right to bomb the shit out of that country.
01:53:19.000And I'm like, okay, that's all liberal media, like liberal economic, that's Western media.
01:53:24.000I just quit, and I'm Team America all the way.
01:53:26.000I don't want to be like, I don't want to question our government to the point that we lose a war because I would rather have American hegemony than Israeli hegemony or Chinese hegemony.
01:53:36.000But also, you got to understand that this media is being manipulated and coming through funnels.
01:53:40.000So, like, just be careful about jumping on the blow up Iran bandwagon.
01:53:46.000Based on the media you read, let's see.
01:53:50.000Quantum Strange says, Keep the booze away from Lauren.
01:54:55.000Everyone's just mad at me for being a woman in a male dominated field.
01:54:58.000All these guys in the right wing sphere will go after the BPD blue haired, like, art hoe from college, and then I do it, and I'm in trouble.
01:56:25.000And Ash says, I don't super chat often, but when Lisa brought up the Lisa Lauren thing, I thought she'd finally address the elephant in the room.
01:58:01.000Now you're getting into reading all the bad ones.
01:58:03.000Hence, One Pack says if only these influencers would stop having sex with each other, then complain later like anyone cares about their sex lives.
01:58:11.000You guys act like, I will say this, though, people act like that doesn't happen in other fields.
01:59:41.000So if he drops out, Collins should win by default.
01:59:44.000The general is for the people that were elected in the primaries.
01:59:47.000I mean, look, I am, like I've said a bunch of times, I'm an open partisan.
01:59:52.000I would like to see anything happen that would prevent Democrats from getting into positions of authority because I think that they're a terrible, terrible bane on the American people.
02:00:02.000But I don't think that that's actually going to happen.
02:00:04.000In the way that Democratic, first of all, the Democratic Party is a private company.
02:00:22.000And those seven, so basically you vote as a Democrat and then you get these electors, these 4,000 electors go and they're supposed to vote for who you voted for.
02:00:30.000But then there's 700 of these electors that are just like Joe Biden, Hillary Clinton.
02:11:41.000So, what's the actual value of women being involved in the voting process?
02:11:47.000Being that since involving them in the process, the social and economic fabric of the country has collapsed to the point that everything is kind of seen as faking gay.
02:12:41.000Like mass communism across China, across Russia.
02:12:44.000Like there's been so many movements that have killed millions and millions of people that women did not have control over.
02:12:51.000Like it's just the idea that it's also like this idea that I see from the right wing where, oh, we got to remove the female vote because they vote Democrat, which, first of all, you shouldn't remove anyone's vote because they vote Democrat.
02:13:03.000That's part of a, you know, constitutional process.
02:13:06.000But Minorities are more likely to vote Democrat than women.
02:13:09.000Like, white women vote like majority right wing.
02:13:12.000So, if you actually cared about, oh, we want to remove people's vote because they vote Democrat and they're too emotional, well, then you'd be advocating removing minorities' vote, black people's votes.
02:13:20.000But they don't do that because the Manosphere grift is anti women and they've actually got a massive black audience, massive minority audience.
02:13:27.000So, it's like, I don't take these critiques seriously.
02:13:38.000The idea of just taking the vote away from anybody is honestly as much as I would love, like I said, I would love to see the pool of people that are voting to be shrunk, you know, probably less than, for federal elections, probably less than a million people, to be honest with you.
02:14:13.000In reality, you know, we're not getting rid of the police, we're not getting rid of women voting to that point.
02:14:19.000Like, look, if you get enough of the people that are on the far left into positions of authority, they will do a significant amount of defunding.
02:14:27.000But you can't, like, you can't get rid of the police, they'll have the shitty results.
02:14:49.000Normal people's votes are being displaced.
02:14:51.000But what happened was the women got the universal suffrage, and then the Federal Reserve took over our country right around the same period.
02:15:21.000I was, I thought, I mean, I've said over and over, it's not, I agree, it's not about women.
02:15:25.000It's about too many people overall voting.
02:15:28.000People that don't understand civics, that don't understand how our government works, people that vote, people that are saying, oh, and I said this last night, it's a problem that Montana has two senators and California has two senators.
02:15:39.000Look at how many more people are in California.
02:15:41.000It's like, that's not how it's fucking supposed to work, you moron.
02:15:44.000You don't even know how our system's supposed to work.
02:15:46.000So you're not in a position to be voting, in my opinion.
02:16:13.000But, like, you know, that's not the answer.
02:16:14.000Clearly not because, no, there's people that are educated that still vote for things that are unconstitutional, things that the federal government shouldn't be doing.