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00:02:25.000 Several Supreme Court justices testified before Congress today about the need for more security.

00:02:30.000 They want to add cybersecurity.

00:02:32.000 They've already got something like eight or nine security officers.

00:02:35.000 And Amy Coney Barrett went on to explain her son opening the door to a wall of police after she had been swatted.

00:02:42.000 And the interesting thing here, it wasn't just Coney Barrett, it's Kagan as well, talking about the death threats they are receiving for the rulings that they are creating or that they're issuing.

00:02:51.000 And the funny thing is, somebody did a breakdown of Amy Coney Barrett's opinions before Dobbs.

00:02:56.000 And after, and you can see that after Dobbs, she goes full moderate.

00:03:01.000 She was a conservative.

00:03:03.000 This decision happens. 0.86

00:03:04.000 And then she pulls far to the left.

00:03:06.000 Why?

00:03:07.000 After Dobbs, there was a, well, before Dobbs, there was a leak, death threats, fences were put up.

00:03:13.000 And we talked about this last week, the week before that.

00:03:17.000 I would argue that her opinions are paradoxical.

00:03:21.000 She's arguing against herself in some circumstances.

00:03:24.000 And it seems like she is terrified to issue the rulings that need to be issued because of these death threats.

00:03:30.000 And I'm going to be honest, I'm not trying to rag on the Supreme Court justice here.

00:03:34.000 She said her child opened the front door of her house and saw a wall of cops in a swatting.

00:03:39.000 She must have been terrified.

00:03:40.000 She tells a story where she had to explain to her 12 year old son what a bulletproof vest was.

00:03:45.000 Because apparently, he's been so sheltered, he's never played Fortnite or Call of Duty or any other video game like GTA and didn't know what a bulletproof vest was.

00:03:51.000 Now, I don't believe her, but I will say this if it is true that her kid didn't know what a bulletproof vest was, she has those kids very sheltered.

00:04:00.000 So it must be very, very terrifying when people are trying to murder you and your colleagues.

00:04:05.000 I can only suspect then, as we've already talked about on this show, that when her opinions start shifting and contradicting themselves, she's doing it because she's terrified the left will kill her.

00:04:16.000 Now, the funny thing is, guys, it's riot season.

00:04:19.000 Ain't no riots.

00:04:20.000 Where are they at?

00:04:22.000 You could say that after USAID was shut down, the riots just stopped, which is kind of true and weird.

00:04:28.000 But many are arguing it's because the left has found victories in other ways, notably with these death threats and with the attacks on ICE facilities. 0.96

00:04:37.000 They are now, it is being reported by Daily Wire, ICE has been instructed they can no longer pull vehicles over, which is the principal method by which they are deporting these criminal illegal migrants.

00:04:46.000 And of course, the death threats against a sitting Supreme Court justice, her opinions have markedly shifted to the left following the assassination attempt on Brett Kavanaugh. 0.51

00:04:55.000 Some would argue the left might actually be winning.

00:04:58.000 But we'll see.

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00:08:23.000 Now, we saw Amy Coney Barrett testify today that she's terrified for the safety of her family, but check this out first.

00:08:28.000 This is the context.

00:08:29.000 Amy Coney Barrett's conservative voting record before and after Dobbs v. Jackson's Women's Health.

00:08:34.000 This is the Roe v. Wade case. 0.51

00:08:37.000 Pre Dobbs, you can see that she was siding almost entirely with the conservative wing of the court, 81% of the time in October of the Supreme Court term in 2021. 0.67

00:08:49.000 81%.

00:08:51.000 After Dobbs, it drops down to 59%, 57%, and as of 2024, 50%, meaning she's gone fully just straight down the middle. 0.96

00:09:01.000 Now, the one thing that we noticed in these recent rulings is that she seems to contradict herself.

00:09:07.000 Not just her, but the court itself is strange.

00:09:10.000 For instance, they ruled Donald Trump could not fire the head of the Federal Reserve because it's an independent agency.

00:09:14.000 Then they also ruled that Donald Trump could fire the head of any independent agency in a separate case, which makes literally no sense.

00:09:20.000 Unless the Federal Reserve is some kind of special entity that operates outside the law, I guess.

00:09:24.000 Where's Ian when you need him?

00:09:25.000 Where's Ian?

00:09:26.000 But there are other issues as well, and you can see it plain as day.

00:09:28.000 I don't need to go through every single ruling, but on the issue of the 14th Amendment, Her arguments, at least in my opinion, her opinion that she issued seemed to make no sense, arguing that there was fear back in the 1800s that without a set day for the election, it could lead to a second civil war.

00:09:45.000 Indeed, my friends, in 1872, we were on the verge of the civil war breaking out again.

00:09:49.000 In 1876, a committee decided who would be president.

00:09:53.000 There were concerns that because elections were being held randomly or just different times in different states, you could exploit the time or day of an election to make sure certain voting blocks would not come out.

00:10:02.000 For instance, if you don't want farmers to vote, You say election day is the day of harvest, or one of the most important times of harvest.

00:10:09.000 So the farmers are going to say, Are you kidding?

00:10:11.000 We're working 24 7 doing the harvest.

00:10:13.000 We can't vote now.

00:10:14.000 So, Congress ultimately ends up passing a law to which she acknowledged, but then said, eh, so what?

00:10:19.000 Who cares?

00:10:20.000 It seemed like she was arguing against herself, probably because after the Dobbs decision, before and after, you had massive death threats.

00:10:28.000 You had someone trying to assassinate Brett Kavanaugh.

00:10:31.000 And then we get this Amy Coney Barrett giving emotional testimony about the moment her son saw her bulletproof vest.

00:10:38.000 Thank you, Justice Kagan.

00:10:39.000 How the volume and nature.

00:10:40.000 This year and those.

00:10:41.000 Microphone, please.

00:10:44.000 Good?

00:10:45.000 Yes.

00:10:46.000 And those statistics sound abstract, but being on the receiving end of them is not.

00:10:50.000 So I thought I would just share a little bit about how the threats have affected me and my family personally.

00:10:56.000 They have required me to, my children, to think about and see things that children should not have to see or think about.

00:11:04.000 One example is when threats to my life were particularly intense a few years ago around the time of the Dobbs leak.

00:11:11.000 My security detail sent me home with a bulletproof vest and I carried it into my house, put it into my bedroom.

00:11:17.000 Dropped it down on a table, turned around, and my 12 year old son was standing in the doorway of my bedroom.

00:11:23.000 And he wanted to know what it was and why I had it.

00:11:26.000 And I didn't know how to respond because maybe I lack imagination, but I didn't expect that performing this service was going to put me in the position of explaining to my children what a bulletproof vest was and why I had to wear one.

00:11:38.000 Ma'am, if your 12 year old son did not know what a bulletproof vest was, then you must keep him locked in the basement or under a rock.

00:11:45.000 I'm sure he's seen John Wick.

00:11:47.000 I'm sure he's played Fortnite or Call of Duty or Grand Theft Auto.

00:11:51.000 Or, literally, watched any movie ever at any point.

00:11:54.000 The ignorance of that statement, though, the idea that she would say, I just didn't know the gravity of being a justice on the Supreme Court.

00:12:01.000 I didn't think that people would be really upset.

00:12:03.000 If you don't, you know, if you can't handle the heat, you get out of the kitchen, right?

00:12:03.000 I agree.

00:12:07.000 She was after Kavanaugh, right?

00:12:09.000 She was an appointment after Kavanaugh, right?

00:12:11.000 Yeah, and I don't mean to be mean or dismissive or rude.

00:12:17.000 I understand, like, we had someone drive by and shoot at this property, too.

00:12:20.000 I fully understand the threats.

00:12:21.000 Bro, let me tell you a crazy story.

00:12:24.000 Y'all know I was just spending last week at the World Series of Poker.

00:12:27.000 One of the pros that played published a story.

00:12:29.000 He said that after he cashed out, because he had something like $80,000 in prizes, he went back to his Airbnb, said two black dudes were waiting for him.

00:12:36.000 They knew they were tracking him, hog tied him, and stole all of his stuff. 1.00

00:12:39.000 Yeah, it's so sweet about that.

00:12:40.000 And that's just, the guy's got a thousand followers.

00:12:43.000 Nobody knows who he is outside of the poker world.

00:12:45.000 It's not a very big world.

00:12:48.000 I fully recognize, you know, I have two bodyguards with me all the time walking around.

00:12:53.000 And I'm not going to explain the degree of security that they're, you know, capable, but let's just say they're very capable individuals.

00:12:58.000 And then I've also got my posse, you know, because you got to have a posse, right?

00:13:01.000 I'm half kidding. 0.99

00:13:02.000 But the reason why celebrities walk around with big groups of people, it's not always just because they're rich and their friends cling to their asses. 0.82

00:13:08.000 It's because my friends are also de facto security. 0.96

00:13:11.000 We're a big group, we're not going to get screwed around with.

00:13:14.000 I understand being in this line of work is dangerous.

00:13:19.000 Amy Coney Barrett, if you think the threat is too great and you are issuing rulings that are tepid, weak, and bad for this country, you need to resign right now.

00:13:30.000 For the safety and sake of your children.

00:13:31.000 I'm not on the Supreme Court and I got Bulletproof Fest and I got plates and stuff.

00:13:36.000 I watch a podcast about video games and I get death threats on a day to day basis because I know what a man is.

00:13:45.000 That's forbidden knowledge on the internet.

00:13:47.000 You can't actually know this.

00:13:50.000 Listen, I get what she's going through here.

00:13:52.000 We have tried to plan events for our company multiple times, but the reality is that whenever we try to produce any sort of event anywhere in the world, anywhere in the United States, we have to account for.

00:14:04.000 Way more security than a traditional event would because of silliness like that.

00:14:09.000 Yep.

00:14:10.000 You know, and I mean, I just go back to that statement.

00:14:12.000 Yeah, the Fortnite thing and the body armor thing, that's insane, right?

00:14:17.000 But the fact that she was naive at the idea of being a Supreme Court justice wasn't going to be, there weren't going to be threats associated with that.

00:14:26.000 There didn't used to be.

00:14:28.000 But it goes to show that she has not been paying attention.

00:14:30.000 And I'm just, you know, I get headaches from this because I'm like, I'm the Civil War guy, you know what I mean?

00:14:36.000 Always screaming like things are getting crazy.

00:14:39.000 And, you know, as of right now, I'd argue, I don't exactly know where things are going because it looks like the crushing of USAID may have been like, The right may have routed the left infrastructure to a degree where they're getting pushed back to an insane degree.

00:14:52.000 Like, where are the riots at?

00:14:54.000 With that being said, for her to look at the Dobbs decision, the leak, they put up fences around the Supreme Court. 0.67

00:15:00.000 They're banging and screaming during Kavanaugh's confirmation hearings, and she's not even Googling it.

00:15:06.000 That's offensive to me.

00:15:08.000 Like, she knew exactly what they did to Kavanaugh in terms of accusing him of being a gang rapist, as well as trying to bash the doors down.

00:15:17.000 And then with the Dobbs decision, she's like, oh, heavens me, I'm so shocked this is happening.

00:15:20.000 Well, was she like a prosecutor before she took the bench?

00:15:23.000 What did she do before that? 1.00

00:15:24.000 I thought she was a federal judge, right? 1.00

00:15:26.000 I think she was a judge. 0.98

00:15:27.000 So, like, she worked in law, then she went on to be a judge.

00:15:29.000 I mean, my guess is that she was very career minded, and this is a once in a lifetime opportunity that so few people get that she underestimated just how much security and how dangerous it was going to be.

00:15:39.000 Being a federal judge isn't exactly a safe position. 0.98

00:15:43.000 She was on the You're not immune to violence. 0.98

00:15:45.000 She was on the Seventh Circuit for U.S. Court of Appeals from 2017 to 2020.

00:15:50.000 And prior to that, she was a law professor at Notre Dame.

00:15:53.000 And now it's, look, we've talked about it with all of her rulings. 0.95

00:15:57.000 In the past couple of years, she may as well be a liberal.

00:16:01.000 And we're left flabbergasted.

00:16:03.000 What did we say two weeks ago? 0.84

00:16:05.000 She got swatted in May and then issues these placid, moderate rulings with the most pathetic of opinions that she may as well have not even issued an opinion at all and contradicts herself. 0.95

00:16:14.000 And I'm like, clearly getting swatted has her shaken in her eye heels. 0.92

00:16:19.000 Look, I'm not trying to be mean.

00:16:21.000 If my child is not even that old, But I could not imagine your 12 year old child opening the door to a wall of police, probably screaming, hands in the air, this kid freaking out.

00:16:34.000 And we've heard stories.

00:16:35.000 There was that one story, I think it was like Oklahoma or whatever, where a guy got swatted, opens his door with his gun in his hand, they shoot and kill him.

00:16:41.000 There was another story I saw where cops were responding to a domestic and they're banging on the door and they're at the wrong house.

00:16:47.000 So they're just banging on the door.

00:16:48.000 It's two guys, there's no lights, nothing, banging on this guy's door like 3 a.m.

00:16:52.000 He opens the door with his gun in his hand and they unload on him.

00:16:55.000 Innocent guy at his own house.

00:16:57.000 So, what is she thinking right now?

00:16:59.000 Even if the left doesn't come to actually try and assassinate her or anything like that, how many more times will she get swatted?

00:17:05.000 What can she do?

00:17:06.000 So, they're here now asking for an increase in security.

00:17:10.000 And, you know, look, man, I'm sorry.

00:17:14.000 She should resign.

00:17:15.000 It's untenable.

00:17:16.000 Like, if it's that bad now, it's only going to get worse.

00:17:18.000 It's not like it's something like you could make the argument that maybe when her kids are old enough to move out of the house, maybe she has a little bit more of a laissez faire attitude towards it when it's just her and her.

00:17:27.000 Her husband, but doubtful, right?

00:17:30.000 So it's only going to get worse.

00:17:32.000 Yeah.

00:17:33.000 And I mean, there aren't any actual cases that I'm aware of that are as volatile as Dobbs.

00:17:43.000 And she kind of ducked the 14th Amendment question that was here.

00:17:46.000 There is the rifle ban that'll come up next year, but I don't think that would set anyone off the way that the Dobbs decision did.

00:17:56.000 So, you know, but that doesn't mean that something couldn't present itself, you know.

00:18:00.000 Isn't it amazing though to see whenever there's going to be a ruling and you know which way it's going to go based off of whether the fence is up or not?

00:18:08.000 You know?

00:18:08.000 Yeah.

00:18:08.000 Yeah, right.

00:18:09.000 That really says a lot about this. 0.75

00:18:10.000 And also, it's interesting that she would be demanding more security while there being less security in the United States, you know, for people coming in and voting.

00:18:19.000 It's amazing to see.

00:18:20.000 And I mean, everybody has to see the hypocrisy in this.

00:18:23.000 I mean, the whole idea of her needing or requesting more security, I don't think that that actually is going to have any kind of effect on her voting, right?

00:18:23.000 Yeah.

00:18:34.000 Like, just because she has more security doesn't mean that she's going to be like, oh, now I feel at ease to vote my conscience or vote what I actually think the law says.

00:18:43.000 I think that this is. 0.95

00:18:44.000 She probably wants more security for her family and stuff, but she still knows that if she were to vote in a way that inflamed the left, then they would still make a target of her.

00:18:54.000 And even if you have security, it doesn't make you immune to intimidation.

00:19:00.000 It doesn't make you immune to attacks.

00:19:02.000 There have been a lot of people who have had security that are no longer with us.

00:19:05.000 Yeah.

00:19:05.000 I mean, case in point, I think it was yesterday, the two year anniversary of the attack in Butler, Pennsylvania.

00:19:12.000 And someone almost shot Donald Trump.

00:19:15.000 And he has what.

00:19:17.000 Arguably the best security in the world.

00:19:19.000 Until they don't want to be.

00:19:20.000 Well, like I said, arguably. 1.00

00:19:21.000 Maybe there was that one lady, the one Secret Service lady. 0.99

00:19:24.000 You know, the problem ultimately is trying to be this middle of the road, please leave me alone, makes everyone hate you. 0.98

00:19:32.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:19:33.000 So she doesn't got to come out and scream, you know, tradcon revolution and start rubber stamping every, you know, right wing policy and screeching the left.

00:19:44.000 But she can be reasonable and correct and just say, look, you know, if, as that chart showed, 81% of the time she was the conservatives.

00:19:52.000 And that was acceptable.

00:19:53.000 Most people are like, okay, like you're not going to win every single one and you get upset about some. 0.74

00:19:56.000 But when she's playing this 50 50 middle of the road, the left hates her.

00:20:00.000 They're not going to stop.

00:20:01.000 She, like, that's just it.

00:20:03.000 They're not going to stop.

00:20:04.000 And now she'll have no support because this is what people do. 1.00

00:20:06.000 And it's so pathetic. 0.99

00:20:09.000 They play this game of, I'm just going to duck and keep my head down and maybe it'll all go away. 0.99

00:20:13.000 No, what you're basically saying is the left is never going to stop.

00:20:17.000 And you also don't want to have a support group behind you who agrees with you and would protect you.

00:20:21.000 So, okay, you should resign. 0.97

00:20:23.000 She should resign. 1.00

00:20:24.000 It's not going to happen.

00:20:24.000 But you know what?

00:20:25.000 Nothing's going to happen.

00:20:26.000 We're going to get these weak people.

00:20:28.000 This is, you know, I said if Donald Trump doesn't do something about the elections and the corruption, he's Buchanan. 0.99

00:20:35.000 But our whole government is full of Buchanans. 0.99

00:20:37.000 We got like 89% Buchanans and very few Lincolns. 0.97

00:20:42.000 Clarence Thomas is a Lincoln.

00:20:43.000 You know, he's a guy who's like, we're going to do what's got to get.

00:20:45.000 And Alito as well.

00:20:47.000 Trump, I would argue that the verdict's out on Trump.

00:20:51.000 We'll see what he says Thursday.

00:20:53.000 But I will respect his bringing in Bill Paltz.

00:20:55.000 So he's doing more than nothing.

00:20:56.000 And getting rid of USAID was a nuclear bomb in this culture war.

00:21:00.000 So I got to give him that.

00:21:01.000 Do you think that's why there have been no riots?

00:21:02.000 Do you think so?

00:21:03.000 Yeah, actually, yeah, I do.

00:21:04.000 Soros is busy right now.

00:21:06.000 It's that USAID was funneling money.

00:21:06.000 It's not about Soros.

00:21:08.000 Where was all this money coming from?

00:21:10.000 I would not be surprised.

00:21:12.000 Look, it's just kind of weird that USAID goes tits up and now there's no riots for the first time in what, 20 years?

00:21:18.000 I just feel.

00:21:19.000 I've been involved in protests going back to 2006 with W. Bush.

00:21:24.000 Every single summer there were protests.

00:21:27.000 Now there's just none?

00:21:29.000 Is there a story this summer specifically that you felt was really going to lead to riots that didn't?

00:21:29.000 What happened?

00:21:35.000 Is it the stuff with ice mostly?

00:21:37.000 Just the guy that got killed yesterday?

00:21:39.000 Well, we've had more than one, multiple, and we got these little bitty protests.

00:21:44.000 Where's the national rising up?

00:21:46.000 And people are like, it's too hot out.

00:21:47.000 It's not hot in Los Angeles.

00:21:49.000 It's 69 degrees.

00:21:51.000 That's a major urban center.

00:21:52.000 Where are the protests?

00:21:54.000 I don't believe that too hot is a thing.

00:21:56.000 They go out at night.

00:21:57.000 Too cold.

00:21:58.000 Too cold, definitely.

00:21:59.000 And look what happened earlier this year, right?

00:22:01.000 I imagine there was still residual money left over.

00:22:04.000 And you had people out in Minnesota in the freezing cold, like real freezing cold.

00:22:11.000 And there's just no appetite for it now.

00:22:14.000 And I tend to agree with Tim.

00:22:16.000 He put something in the Slack today, and that was my first question.

00:22:19.000 I was like, do you think that it's because of USAID?

00:22:22.000 If they don't have the funding to bust people in, because Tim's talked about tourists, it's not even about that.

00:22:28.000 It's about organizing, it's about making a flyer and saying, hey, come here at this time, having it ready to go when it's time to use it immediately right then.

00:22:35.000 So here's the thing.

00:22:36.000 I've heard for decades where they're like Soros funded protesters, and these protesters don't get paid.

00:22:41.000 However, there's like seven people who do, who put the flyers up at the universities, who go on social media, who go around and tell everybody to show up, and then people start showing up.

00:22:52.000 But without those organizers, nobody shows up because ain't nothing to show up to.

00:22:56.000 So I figured bad economy, all of the pallet of brick companies are just amazing how many bricks just showed up on the side of the road during the summer.

00:22:56.000 Yep.

00:23:04.000 I love.

00:23:05.000 Back to Barrett, real quick.

00:23:06.000 I don't think anybody would really be upset if she was to say, Look, this was too much for me.

00:23:11.000 I did not.

00:23:12.000 If she just was totally honest about it and said, I did not anticipate this and this is too much for me, I don't think anybody would falter.

00:23:19.000 Be like, Look, okay, cool.

00:23:20.000 Just step out of the way, let the next person pop in.

00:23:23.000 I think it's totally.

00:23:23.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:23:24.000 It would also shine a light on where they think the violence is coming from, which, you know, a lot of people are still in denial about.

00:23:30.000 Yeah, I think you're right about the denial.

00:23:32.000 I don't think that they're.

00:23:34.000 I think that you're right about the denial, but I don't think that her.

00:23:38.000 Resigning would give anyone any more information.

00:23:42.000 I think the people that believe that she's intimidated know that it's not right wingers doing it.

00:23:49.000 Everyone knows that it's not people on the right that are intimidating her.

00:23:52.000 There's been no consequential.

00:23:56.000 Or Kagan's here too being like, well, I also get this. 0.99

00:23:58.000 It's like, oh, shut up. 0.99

00:24:00.000 It's so fake. 0.99

00:24:02.000 You look at the violence that we get politically, and it's always leftists.

00:24:07.000 What just happened in Maine?

00:24:08.000 A bunch of leftists attacked a journalist.

00:24:09.000 Yeah.

00:24:10.000 And it's like on the news, they're like journalists attacked by leftists.

00:24:12.000 Like, yeah, okay.

00:24:12.000 Well, it's like not even news anymore because it's just the given.

00:24:14.000 Kagan saying that reminds me of AOC saying it.

00:24:16.000 It's like she does have, you know, she has security concerns, but it's not really, it's not about politics.

00:24:23.000 It's mostly like dudes that are creepy and weird that are, you know, making remarks about AOC.

00:24:29.000 People like Alex Stein that are more, you know, more.

00:24:33.000 They're offended by something.

00:24:35.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:24:35.000 Energetic.

00:24:37.000 So I don't think that, I mean, I would like to see if.

00:24:42.000 What we're discussing here happens to be the case.

00:24:44.000 I would like to see her step down, but I don't see that happening.

00:24:48.000 The appointment to the SCOTUS is a lifetime appointment.

00:24:51.000 She's not going to.

00:24:52.000 Zero chance. 0.92

00:24:52.000 Zero. 0.92

00:24:52.000 She'll just ride the middle. 0.92

00:24:56.000 Yeah, she's going to try and just do the least amount possible. 1.00

00:24:58.000 Yep. 1.00

00:24:59.000 Say nothing and just hide.

00:25:00.000 Yep. 1.00

00:25:01.000 Yeah, she should resign.

00:25:03.000 Let's jump into this next story that we got this from CNBC. 0.98

00:25:05.000 Trump to claim declassified intel reveals 2020 election interference, according to MS Now.

00:25:12.000 It's funny because, you know, we love MS Now.

00:25:14.000 Trump plans to claim in a speech Thursday that newly declassified intelligence reports reveal a foreign nation's plans to interfere in the 2020 presidential election.

00:25:22.000 CIA Director John Ratcliffe, acting DNI Bill Pulte, Kash Patel, and Mark Wayne Mullen will join Trump, according to MS Now.

00:25:30.000 Trump earlier said he will make a speech to the nation on Thursday evening at 9 p.m. Eastern without providing further details.

00:25:37.000 And of course, MS Now is losing their minds.

00:25:40.000 Here we go.

00:25:41.000 Trump officials, Reuters, Trump officials sought ways to sidestep.

00:25:44.000 Election agency before firings.

00:25:46.000 Oh boy, here it comes.

00:25:48.000 MSNOW, Trump election task force to begin releasing classified intel documents.

00:25:52.000 The election that never ends inside Trump world's endless relitigating of 2020.

00:25:56.000 And FBI analysts fired after refusing to join Georgia 2020 election probe.

00:26:01.000 The rumors that we're hearing is that he's going to claim Assoff and Warnock are illegitimate senators.

00:26:06.000 If that's the case, if Trump is going to claim at all that our elections have been illegitimate, what's he going to do about it?

00:26:13.000 Is he going to suspend the midterms?

00:26:15.000 Is he going to issue an executive order on elections, which will get tossed out of the courts in two seconds?

00:26:19.000 What?

00:26:20.000 I think, honestly, he's going to go on TV.

00:26:22.000 He's going to say, it's really bad, bad for our country.

00:26:24.000 Our elections are fraud.

00:26:25.000 Thank you.

00:26:25.000 Goodbye.

00:26:25.000 And nothing happens.

00:26:26.000 I agree.

00:26:27.000 Which just makes people more angry because it's like you can identify the problem, but you can't do anything about it.

00:26:31.000 What do you want me to do with that?

00:26:33.000 Right.

00:26:33.000 Well, Georgia, even if he had won Georgia, it still wouldn't have swayed the election.

00:26:36.000 And I think the most fascinating thing about this is the idea that, you know, the narrative behind this is there was no election interference.

00:26:44.000 Well, there wasn't mass election interference, but I don't know.

00:26:48.000 Maybe it's just me, but the idea of having any sort of interference or any sort of, you know, corruption in your election process is a bad thing.

00:26:55.000 You know, I'm just a normal guy.

00:26:55.000 Yeah.

00:26:57.000 That's all.

00:26:58.000 And it just seems really kind of kooky to me.

00:27:00.000 I mean, look, the situation, I think that this.

00:27:00.000 Yeah.

00:27:04.000 The situation in California has really shed light on the problems with the elections that are going on.

00:27:11.000 And the fact that technically in California, I think the only thing that was actually illegal that they found was people paying homeless people to vote.

00:27:21.000 Now, I mean, there's plenty of homeless people in California that you can give a buck or two to have them vote.

00:27:28.000 But this kind of thing now has become more something that more people are aware of, I think, and actually are concerned with.

00:27:37.000 And hopefully.

00:27:38.000 The evidence that Donald Trump says that he has, hopefully he can actually produce something that is compelling to the American people.

00:27:46.000 And then, I mean, I say that people will demand it, but I mean, 80% of the American people want the Save Act and Congress won't do anything about it.

00:27:52.000 So it does really, I totally understand where you come from.

00:27:55.000 It does feel like, well, I guess we can't do anything about it, you know?

00:27:57.000 Best you can have is daylight savings time.

00:27:59.000 That's all you get.

00:28:00.000 You know what would really be awesome is if he came on and he said, look, you know, we're going to make these guys resign or they have to resign.

00:28:08.000 Because here's the thing, right?

00:28:09.000 They're just the faces of this, right?

00:28:11.000 They didn't, you know, unless there was some sort of direct line to them saying, hey, we're going to, you know, cause this fraudulent activity or whatever, right?

00:28:19.000 But if he was to actually point out and say, this person is going to jail and give you a list of eight people that are actually going to have punishment for this, okay, I'm on board with that, right?

00:28:28.000 Set a precedent for what's moving ahead.

00:28:31.000 If you mess with our elections, right, there will be consequences.

00:28:35.000 And because I, you know, it's just such a simple process that I just, my brain does not wrap around the idea that people, Don't want this idea of votes counting fairly?

00:28:45.000 Well, that's the thing.

00:28:46.000 That's the point that I was just making it's the American people do want that.

00:28:50.000 I think it's 80% of the American population thinks, yes, you should require ID to vote, and Congress won't vote on it.

00:28:56.000 The Senate won't actually hear it.

00:28:58.000 Congress has passed it, the Senate won't hear it.

00:29:00.000 Well, in recent times, I've realized that what really matters in politics is just saying the thing that the machine state will promote.

00:29:08.000 So instead of actually having any integrity, like many of these other podcasters, I've decided just to say whatever they want me to say, and that is.

00:29:14.000 Trump is bad.

00:29:15.000 He should not do this.

00:29:16.000 Democrats have never done anything wrong at any point ever.

00:29:19.000 And Hillary Clinton should be president in 2028.

00:29:22.000 Good for you, Tim.

00:29:23.000 Good for you.

00:29:23.000 I'm really brave of you.

00:29:24.000 That's great.

00:29:26.000 It takes a lot of bravery to say Hillary Clinton should be president.

00:29:28.000 Good.

00:29:29.000 It was tough, but we got there.

00:29:32.000 No, in all seriousness, I'm sitting here and just in my mind, I'm visualizing Donald Trump going on TV and being like, at this moment, we are deploying federal agents to arrest all of the Democrats.

00:29:46.000 And then it's just perp walks of all these Democratic.

00:29:49.000 Not necessarily politicians, but like election officials, and it's not going to happen.

00:29:54.000 That's what I mean when we make the joke about nothing ever changes or nothing's ever different.

00:30:00.000 It's the idea that what people want is the movie version of something changing, right?

00:30:05.000 They want somebody perp walked out of a building that they can watch on TV that makes it feel like they're seeing the completion of a story with the good guys winning.

00:30:12.000 Sort of.

00:30:13.000 It's not real.

00:30:14.000 But they did, no, it is.

00:30:15.000 They did it to Trump and they did it to Roger Stone and they did it to Steve Bannon and they did it to Peter Navarro.

00:30:19.000 And for the love of all that is holy, we're asking for one, one time, one time, one of these people is held accountable.

00:30:26.000 And it just never happens.

00:30:27.000 Trump's going to come on Thursday.

00:30:28.000 And it's going to be like, so Roger Stone had his home raided at five in the morning, and CNN was tipped off, and Steve Bannon went to jail, and Peter Navarro went to jail, and they harassed Michael Flynn endlessly.

00:30:38.000 They put me in, they arrested me twice, they arrested my lawyers, and so we're upset.

00:30:43.000 Goodbye.

00:30:43.000 Thank you.

00:30:44.000 And we're going to be like, this is why I feel like so many people just don't care anymore.

00:30:48.000 One of the reasons, because you can only bash someone over the head over and over again, screaming, like, look at all of the corruption, and nothing ever happens.

00:30:56.000 And I just got to say this the left is.

00:30:59.000 Fully cognizant that they have been rioting, that they have killed, that they will likely kill again, that they arrested Trump's lawyers, accused him of fraud, tried putting him in prison, sued to make it so he could not run for office, and they've done all these things.

00:31:11.000 And they go, But we have never done anything.

00:31:14.000 And the Republicans just sit there going, Well, you know, it's bad, I guess.

00:31:18.000 Drat, it's too bad.

00:31:19.000 Nothing will ever change.

00:31:21.000 And if that's the case, what are we doing here?

00:31:23.000 And why aren't we just, I don't know, ordering pizza, kicking back, and watching the World Cup?

00:31:28.000 The most demoralizing part is that it's with a supermajority.

00:31:31.000 If you can't get anything done with the supermajority, how do you expect anything to happen?

00:31:34.000 No, it's not a supermajority.

00:31:35.000 It's a trifecta.

00:31:37.000 We barely have Congress and Amy Coney Barrett shaking, terrified, begging, please don't hurt me.

00:31:37.000 Yeah.

00:31:43.000 I can't do this job.

00:31:44.000 I'm scared.

00:31:46.000 And Donald Trump, bless his 80 year old heart, I do think he's trying.

00:31:50.000 Bill Pulte is coming out like a bulldog, and I really appreciate it.

00:31:53.000 Bill's fantastic.

00:31:54.000 Man, when they announced that he was coming in, I was stoked because we might actually see some movement now. 0.89

00:31:59.000 Finally get someone who's got the cojones. 0.86

00:32:02.000 I don't know what. 0.98

00:32:03.000 Happened to Pulte.

00:32:04.000 I mean, listen, he's a rich guy.

00:32:07.000 He ain't got nothing to worry about.

00:32:08.000 I got my wife and I, we hung out with him.

00:32:10.000 He's a cool dude.

00:32:11.000 We hung out at Mar-a-Lago, had a great time.

00:32:13.000 For what reason would a guy so well off and successful need to stick his neck out in the way that he's been doing other than he means business and he believes in it and I love it?

00:32:23.000 And you don't have that with most of these people. 0.97

00:32:25.000 Now, to be fair, Blanche is doing great.

00:32:27.000 Mark Wayne Mullen coming out the gate, doing well.

00:32:27.000 I'm surprised.

00:32:29.000 I want to see more.

00:32:30.000 And Pulte just charging full speed.

00:32:33.000 You know, I would equate.

00:32:34.000 Bill Pulte to like starting a UFC match with a charging flying roundhouse that you leap at your opponent, and then we'll just leave it there.

00:32:42.000 It works out.

00:32:42.000 You know what?

00:32:43.000 One of the reasons why they're fighting so hard to prevent Paramount from owning Warner Brothers right now, it's got nothing to do with the movies and it's got everything to do with CNN, right?

00:32:52.000 Because one of the reasons why conservatives struggle in these situations is it becomes a full on media onslaught every time they try to do anything of any note, and they get a lot of pushback in the traditional press, and that still bothers them to an extent.

00:33:06.000 Whereas when the left goes out and acts awful, they get their pushback from Fox News and, yes, from podcasters, but it doesn't create the same friction that it does, which is why they want to make sure that they can control what's going on on CNN.

00:33:20.000 Brett, I accept.

00:33:21.000 When Paramount buys out CNN, I will take, Tim Kestai will take over the 8 p.m. prime time slot on CNN.

00:33:28.000 Perfect.

00:33:29.000 And it'll be hilarious.

00:33:31.000 I'm done.

00:33:32.000 Well, now who knows if that's going to happen because we've got 12 states suing Paramount to keep them from.

00:33:37.000 You know, the reality is, though, we don't live in the world anymore where it actually matters.

00:33:41.000 It used to be maybe 20 years ago, CNN mattered as a brand because there were so few news channels to watch.

00:33:47.000 But now CNN may as well just be like, you know, bargain bin Gatorade called like Goober Aid at Walmart.

00:33:54.000 It's like, do you want to buy it?

00:33:56.000 Like, no one cares.

00:33:57.000 You know, if we were to acquire that brand, it doesn't mean anything.

00:33:59.000 You know, did you guys see that story about that juicer they were trying to sell?

00:34:04.000 It was a bag of juice and you put it in a machine and it squeezed the bag.

00:34:07.000 And that's all it was.

00:34:08.000 And then these journalists were like, what if we just squeeze the bag ourselves?

00:34:11.000 And they're like, no, no, you got to buy the machine.

00:34:13.000 Like, why would I want to buy that machine? 0.97

00:34:15.000 It's useless. 0.86

00:34:16.000 That's what CNN is. 0.86

00:34:17.000 It would be a demoralization tactic for the far left.

00:34:19.000 That's true, too.

00:34:21.000 And the point is, the far left already thinks that CNN is MAGA.

00:34:25.000 Like, if you go read under any clip from CNN on X, the farthest left people already think that.

00:34:25.000 Yeah.

00:34:33.000 Because David Zazlav's in charge over there.

00:34:36.000 I just, I love the idea that Barry Weiss is going to be in charge of CNN.

00:34:39.000 It's just the funniest thing.

00:34:41.000 You know, it's going to be absolutely hilarious.

00:34:42.000 Has there been a breakdown of CNN's.

00:34:44.000 Demographics as far as how much of their viewership is actually outside of airports.

00:34:48.000 Dead people.

00:34:49.000 No, no.

00:34:49.000 So they don't do airports anymore.

00:34:50.000 They lost that a long time ago.

00:34:51.000 Okay.

00:34:51.000 Yeah, that was maybe like five or six years ago.

00:34:51.000 Good day.

00:34:53.000 The airport contracts all dried up.

00:34:54.000 The hotel contracts dried up.

00:34:56.000 And that was probably a good portion of their viewership.

00:34:57.000 But hey, let's be real.

00:34:58.000 That's viewership.

00:34:59.000 When you're at a bar and they're playing CNN, people are watching.

00:35:02.000 When you're at the airport and you're sitting there and CNN's on, they're capturing your eyeballs.

00:35:07.000 And were they getting paid to do that?

00:35:09.000 That's the craziest thing.

00:35:10.000 Were they paying to do it?

00:35:13.000 It's also a form of cultural.

00:35:16.000 It creates a sense of cultural importance around the brand.

00:35:18.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:35:18.000 Ubiquitous.

00:35:19.000 Like, it doesn't, like, even if nobody's watching, it's like if you watch, like, if you go watch movies and they try to show, like, a traditional network or a traditional show rather than creating their own fake one, they use CNN if it's supposed to frame a story a certain way.

00:35:32.000 I accept, Brett.

00:35:33.000 When Paramount acquires CNN, Timcast IRL will, we accept, Paramount take over the 8 p.m. CNN slot for which you can air it in airports all across the country.

00:35:42.000 And then we will be the ubiquitous news program.

00:35:46.000 Where we get to say what we want.

00:35:47.000 And Ian will drop the F bomb in the first 20 minutes of the show.

00:35:51.000 Yeah, but over there, they'll have the delay.

00:35:54.000 They'll be able to prevent it.

00:35:55.000 Could you imagine the meltdown that would happen if Ian were in airports?

00:35:59.000 It would be terrible.

00:36:00.000 It would be crazy.

00:36:01.000 No, but here's the reality most people, left or right, would just be like, oh, cool.

00:36:06.000 Yeah.

00:36:07.000 Because you know what's funny is I meet a lot of liberals, and I tell you, the average person is not some raging psychopath, hyper partisan individual.

00:36:15.000 And I'm not saying that to suggest there's not a risk of conflict or violence or anything like that, because there is.

00:36:20.000 It has always been a small group of people that foment the most of the conflict.

00:36:24.000 But I got to tell you, especially playing in Vegas and going to all these places, I would say that 90% of the people come up to me, they're like, I'm a big fan, I watch you all the time.

00:36:32.000 The weirdest was when they were like, I'm a huge fan of you, I watch you on TikTok all the time.

00:36:36.000 And I'm like, I'm not on TikTok.

00:36:37.000 And he goes, No, no, just people post your clips all the time.

00:36:40.000 It's like, well, I guess that's kind of all right.

00:36:42.000 But then I met a handful of people, they're like, oh, hey, you're Timpool, nice to meet you.

00:36:46.000 It's like, I don't agree with you.

00:36:47.000 I'm not a big fan of your show, but I appreciate what you do.

00:36:51.000 I just don't disagree.

00:36:51.000 I get it.

00:36:52.000 And I'm like, oh, that's fantastic.

00:36:54.000 I've never had one guy in Vegas say, F you should be in prison.

00:36:59.000 Just one guy out of like the hundreds who came up to shake my hand and, you know, take pictures.

00:37:04.000 So, normal people.

00:37:06.000 People are normal for the most part.

00:37:07.000 And there's this, you know, that's what happens with social media.

00:37:11.000 It's obviously, you know, we all know this.

00:37:13.000 This makes it amplify these crazy loons. 1.00

00:37:16.000 And that's why Amy Coney Barrett needs more security over here. 0.77

00:37:21.000 I was just doing a podcast with someone else this morning.

00:37:23.000 We were talking about how, you know, Go outside and talk to any individual.

00:37:30.000 You will never have an interaction in real life with a person you don't know like an interaction on the internet.

00:37:37.000 It is just entirely different.

00:37:40.000 People don't interact in real life the way that they do the way they interact on the internet.

00:37:45.000 It is entire, like, it's like people become entirely different human beings, you know?

00:37:50.000 Well, you'd actually have to be an insane person to interact in real life the way that people interact on the internet.

00:37:58.000 I gotta be honest, I'm curious about the strategy at Paramount right now because it doesn't seem like they're going ham.

00:38:07.000 What do you mean?

00:38:08.000 Well, you know, CBS News hired a bunch of contributors, which were considered to be like fairly moderate, which is great news.

00:38:14.000 And CBS had some pretty good reporting.

00:38:15.000 They added to the reporting Nick Shirley started with the fraud in Minnesota.

00:38:19.000 They did their own report, and it was great fact checking and debunking the lies of all these other corporate outlets.

00:38:24.000 I'm a big fan.

00:38:25.000 But I kind of feel like they could go a little harder.

00:38:29.000 You know what I mean?

00:38:31.000 I don't think that Ellison wants to do that.

00:38:33.000 I think he wants to find a way to the middle where he believes that they can find a more profitable version that'll bring in the moderates.

00:38:40.000 But there aren't any.

00:38:41.000 I mean, whether that exists or not is up for debate, but I do think that their general idea is that they want to attract moderates.

00:38:49.000 Yeah, no, like I said, like most people.

00:38:51.000 At least from the news side of things.

00:38:53.000 I think most people who are not watching the news 24 7 are not so.

00:39:00.000 They're fairly dispassionate.

00:39:01.000 You know, they care a little bit.

00:39:02.000 They'll say things like, oh, I don't agree with you, Tim, but they're not spending all of their time hyper focused on, you know, midterms or anything like that.

00:39:10.000 But it's going to happen in the next couple of months.

00:39:12.000 I mean, look, we're midway through July.

00:39:14.000 We're going to be entering the.

00:39:17.000 I mean, how much money are they going to spend on this midterm?

00:39:18.000 This midterm is going to be what a record spend.

00:39:21.000 This is it.

00:39:22.000 They lost everything.

00:39:23.000 The Democrats' last chance to stop Trump this midterm.

00:39:27.000 And they got the polling by their side.

00:39:29.000 Doesn't mean they're going to win.

00:39:30.000 The Republicans got the procedure with redistricting.

00:39:33.000 If Trump comes out on Thursday and says something like, we're issuing several executive orders, I feel like it would be a little early to do so.

00:39:41.000 But maybe the strategy is this If Trump came out in October and said, executive order, stop, right?

00:39:46.000 Well, what's going to happen is they've already got the mail in votes, they're printed up ready to go.

00:39:52.000 They will file it at a federal court, get an injunction, and do it anyway.

00:39:57.000 If Trump moves now, theoretically, he could force them to stop the creation of universal votes or implementation of these systems or hiring of individuals, which could jam them up and create a delay by which they may not be ready by October.

00:40:10.000 So if he does this now, and right now they're starting to ramp up the production of universal mail in votes in many of these places, then they put a stop on it, they file for an injunction, they get it, Trump appeals.

00:40:21.000 He could potentially block.

00:40:22.000 Them from getting the process started for a month or two, in which case they would not be ready by October.

00:40:27.000 Now, it's hypothetical.

00:40:28.000 I don't know if actually that's what's going to play out, but I'm just trying to speculate as to why Trump would make any moves now, considering he's mid July.

00:40:36.000 I would argue that the strategy then is probably let's jam up the starting process for the universal mail in voting system and not do it too late to where you could lose the injunction and the machine is already built.

00:40:48.000 Yeah, I think that he's probably getting a jump on the fall, anyways.

00:40:52.000 That's And, you know, maybe it's going to be an onslaught.

00:40:54.000 Maybe he does in October as well.

00:40:56.000 Maybe he does a bunch now, jams them up, starts a bunch of lawsuits, and then come October, issues a bunch more.

00:41:02.000 I mean, the real strategy is for Trump just to sign like 15.

00:41:05.000 And then you got to sue them all at once.

00:41:08.000 Well, I mean, would it make more sense to release them in tranches?

00:41:12.000 So then that.

00:41:12.000 It would make sense to do like every other day release like two or three.

00:41:16.000 Yep.

00:41:17.000 And the funny thing is, like, what's broken with the schism, like, Trump can sign 100 executive orders pertaining to the election.

00:41:25.000 Just within a week.

00:41:27.000 And there's nothing you can do to stop them.

00:41:29.000 I mean, it's kind of ridiculous that our system operates this way.

00:41:31.000 Trump could come out and be like, here's one, sue me.

00:41:34.000 And then they'd be like, okay, I'll do another one, sue me.

00:41:37.000 Could you imagine the accusations of the tyrant, the king, the fascist, whatever, how quickly that would escalate on CNN, on MSNBC, go down the list?

00:41:47.000 And man, that would be a great payday for all those lefty influencers.

00:41:50.000 Tell you what.

00:41:51.000 Yeah.

00:41:52.000 They'd probably be happy about it.

00:41:53.000 Yeah, they'd be stoked. 0.73

00:41:56.000 Is there some way you can blame Israel for doing it? 0.99

00:41:58.000 Because then the retard right would also get a bunch of views. 1.00

00:42:01.000 It would be great. 1.00

00:42:03.000 I think it would be hilarious.

00:42:05.000 I think that it would be thoroughly entertaining just to see how bad the left freaks out.

00:42:10.000 I don't think anything would come of it.

00:42:11.000 At the end of the day, I think that the elections would happen and whoever actually has the most votes would win.

00:42:20.000 I think that the actions wouldn't produce any tangible results, but I do think it'd be funny personally.

00:42:26.000 What if tomorrow or on Thursday night, Trump comes out and he's like, My fellow Americans, it was Israel?

00:42:33.000 I'm like, Come on.

00:42:36.000 Never hear the end of it.

00:42:37.000 There'd be juice burgering across X for weeks.

00:42:41.000 He just walks off and bees. 0.81

00:42:45.000 It was Israel League.

00:42:46.000 They're in our elections. 0.90

00:42:48.000 Well, yeah, it's foreign interference.

00:42:49.000 What if he was like, Israel did it? 0.72

00:42:50.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:42:51.000 That'd be the craziest thing.

00:42:53.000 Just sit on his last day in office. 0.70

00:42:57.000 It's supposed to be about foreign interference. 0.99

00:42:59.000 It's going to say China.

00:43:00.000 Yeah. 0.82

00:43:01.000 Right?

00:43:01.000 I mean, probably China.

00:43:03.000 That makes the most sense.

00:43:04.000 The interesting thing is what documents will they end up releasing?

00:43:08.000 And I'm curious how regular people will react to it.

00:43:11.000 You know, it's funny when you watch or read MS Now, it may as well just be like, CIA communiques.

00:43:20.000 It's obvious biased propaganda.

00:43:23.000 That being said, you're going to trust whatever it is that Trump's going to release, though.

00:43:28.000 I wonder about what really happened.

00:43:30.000 I wonder if our elections were rigged from the get go.

00:43:34.000 So, be it Obama and Bush, it's all rigged.

00:43:37.000 Be it Romney, Obama, it's rigged.

00:43:40.000 And then Trump came in, and Trump was not supposed to win.

00:43:43.000 Trump and Bernie were the insurgents.

00:43:45.000 And it was supposed to be some flaccid Republican versus Hillary Clinton.

00:43:49.000 Hillary wins. 0.83

00:43:50.000 Trump wins.

00:43:51.000 Jams everything up.

00:43:52.000 I wonder if Russia actually did interfere.

00:43:54.000 And I'll say it like this the narrative they put out about Russian interference came with nothing.

00:44:00.000 There was nothing there.

00:44:01.000 They never came out with anything.

00:44:01.000 They never had any evidence.

00:44:03.000 However, the conspiracy theorist in me is like, what if Russia really did interfere, but they just stopped the rigging?

00:44:11.000 That is, the machine was rigged from the get go, and it was meant to be that the American people don't really choose who the president is going to be.

00:44:17.000 And there's a deep state that exists beyond administrations.

00:44:20.000 Russia then does something that blocks the standard rigging.

00:44:24.000 Hillary Clinton was supposed to win, but because of Putin, she doesn't.

00:44:27.000 Trump accidentally wins.

00:44:28.000 And it wasn't that he coordinated with Russia, but that Russia attacked our machine.

00:44:32.000 And the reason why the Democrats were screaming, Russia did it, was because Russia did, but they couldn't actually release the evidence because the evidence would prove they've been rigging our elections for decades. 0.50

00:44:41.000 That'd be hilarious.

00:44:42.000 I'm saying all that hypothetically.

00:44:43.000 That would have made a great movie like Wag the Dog back in the day.

00:44:46.000 Right.

00:44:47.000 Make a great movie now. 0.54

00:44:48.000 Let's make it.

00:44:48.000 It's the accidental president.

00:44:50.000 Yeah.

00:44:51.000 And then it turns out, like, the Democrats and Republicans have been rigging the elections.

00:44:55.000 There's no actual democracy in this country.

00:44:57.000 It's a controlled state.

00:44:58.000 And then a foreign adversary throws a wrench in the works.

00:45:01.000 Trump becomes president.

00:45:03.000 Trump doesn't know there's this machine and thinks he genuinely wins.

00:45:07.000 And then they try to stop him.

00:45:08.000 He gets super angry.

00:45:09.000 And then they take the election back.

00:45:12.000 Then come 2024, Trump wins.

00:45:13.000 And he's like, we're going to crush him.

00:45:14.000 So he shuts down your state.

00:45:15.000 Be careful what you wish for.

00:45:17.000 Yeah.

00:45:18.000 That would be worth making just for the scene when Trump finds out that he wins.

00:45:23.000 Don't you know the reporting from 2016?

00:45:25.000 Yeah.

00:45:25.000 He had no idea.

00:45:26.000 When he won, he was like, what?

00:45:27.000 He's like, I did.

00:45:27.000 They were like, you won.

00:45:29.000 Like he was genuinely shocked.

00:45:29.000 Yeah.

00:45:30.000 Michael Moore argued that Trump only ran for president because, what was it, like Gwen Stefani got a better pay package with NBC or something? 0.98

00:45:39.000 I mean, it's the stupidest thing I've ever heard because Trump had registered MAGA in 2012. 0.97

00:45:43.000 He was clearly planning on running for office. 0.99

00:45:45.000 But there is a legitimate argument that Trump was running for office thinking it was a long shot bid, but it was going to boost his Q rating.

00:45:53.000 The funnier version of that is the idea that somewhere in America, Hillary Clinton is actually really popular.

00:45:58.000 Like in this version of it, like if the idea here is that they stopped.

00:46:03.000 The cheating. 0.99

00:46:03.000 I want to find out later that Hillary Clinton's actually really popular. 0.99

00:46:07.000 No, she was cheating. 1.00

00:46:08.000 The argument is she could never legitimately win.

00:46:11.000 This is actually a conspiracy theory, by the way, because I've had people pitch me this that Russia turned off the rigging machine and this was the real result.

00:46:19.000 Hillary barely got any votes and then Trump ended up winning.

00:46:21.000 Not that I really believe it, but it'll be interesting to see what Trump says on Thursday.

00:46:26.000 What if it's like a total curveball and he's like Papa Doogie has been interfering in our elections for decades?

00:46:33.000 Iceland, Greenland, something like that.

00:46:37.000 Trump, I didn't realize this, but Trump registered MAGA in 2012, you said?

00:46:37.000 It's nook.

00:46:42.000 The White House Correspondence Dinner when Barack Obama was clowning was April 30th, 2011.

00:46:47.000 Yep.

00:46:48.000 So right the year before, I still firmly believe that it was because of Barack Obama that the best thing Barack Obama did was give us Donald Trump.

00:46:56.000 I love the idea that this all, like, Donald Trump's presidency, everything goes back to Gwen Stefani.

00:47:02.000 I love that idea.

00:47:03.000 Yeah, it was Fahrenheit 11.9.

00:47:06.000 Michael Moore did that documentary that nobody went to see, and it was supposed to be about how Trump is bad.

00:47:11.000 Michael Moore is never going to live it down because he gave that speech in 2016 where he said Trump's going to save the day and everyone loves him.

00:47:17.000 And that speech went super viral.

00:47:18.000 You know what I love?

00:47:19.000 Is that Michael Moore did this speech about he was like, Donald Trump went to the auto manufacturers and said, If you move production, manufacturing overseas, I will charge you a 30% tariff.

00:47:32.000 And he said the executives were shocked.

00:47:34.000 No one had ever stood up to them this way before, and they were worried.

00:47:38.000 And so he's like, Trump was the FU, the Molotov cocktail thrown into the machine that people were begging for.

00:47:46.000 And he's like, so they'll vote for them and they'll be happy for a week, maybe a month, but then they'll come to regret it.

00:47:53.000 And the funny thing is, they never did.

00:47:55.000 Literally never did.

00:47:55.000 Right.

00:47:57.000 Some people in 24, don't get me wrong, libertarians that voted for him did.

00:48:00.000 But what people started doing is the speech was meant to be here's how Trump conned you, and now he'll betray you, but they cut off the back end.

00:48:09.000 And then they took only the beginning where he's like, he was the Molotov cocktail thrown into the machine.

00:48:13.000 And they put that epic music.

00:48:15.000 You know what I'm talking about?

00:48:17.000 It's like, and it's like violin.

00:48:20.000 It's all epic.

00:48:21.000 And Michael Moore is like, Donald Trump will be the human Molotov cocktail, the F you to the system.

00:48:27.000 And everyone's singing, and then they just stop.

00:48:29.000 So you never hear the criticism.

00:48:31.000 And then everyone thought Michael Moore genuinely was just praising Trump.

00:48:34.000 So he's one of the first victims of like lie by structure and by cutting off a clip.

00:48:40.000 One of the first, I mean, I don't know, maybe that it's around that era, isn't it?

00:48:45.000 It's pretty wild clipping, yeah.

00:48:47.000 You know, with AI video being so perfect nowadays, bro, 2028 is going to be the craziest thing.

00:48:53.000 You're gonna get video like indistinguishable video of JD Vance like saving a bag of puppies from a fire, and you're gonna be like, I can't tell if it's real or not.

00:49:01.000 Yeah, but the smartest people working on it will know to find the idea where it's just believable, like that's just too far from believable for most people to buy into it, which is really gonna suck if he actually did save a bunch of puppies from like a burning building.

00:49:13.000 Well, this is what I was saying.

00:49:15.000 The real threat with AI is not that someone will make a video of Donald Trump shooting someone on Fifth Avenue because no one will believe it.

00:49:22.000 It's like the very fine people hoax.

00:49:24.000 When that happened, Trump said, There were very fine people on both sides, and I'm not talking about the neo Nazis and white supremacists because they should be condemned totally.

00:49:31.000 And the example I give is someone will take a video like that and they'll change it so that Donald Trump says, And I'm not talking about the neo Nazis and white nationalists because some should be condemned totally.

00:49:42.000 They'll change they to some.

00:49:44.000 And then what happens is no one will be able to remember exactly what Trump said because you're going to have someone's like, I was there.

00:49:49.000 He said some.

00:49:50.000 Then liberals are going to be like, Yo, he didn't say that all the Nazis were good people.

00:49:55.000 He was saying some of them were, and it'll be just enough.

00:49:58.000 To where you will never debunk the lie again.

00:50:01.000 And we're there now.

00:50:02.000 How do you get ahead of that, right?

00:50:03.000 I would, if you're a post truth society, it doesn't matter anymore.

00:50:08.000 It's post truth.

00:50:09.000 It's just, we're already there.

00:50:11.000 I watched the video of Mitch McConnell breakdancing today.

00:50:13.000 Yes.

00:50:14.000 He's alive.

00:50:14.000 That proves it.

00:50:15.000 Now, obviously, that's over the top.

00:50:18.000 But if someone made an AI video that was very simple, where he just said, thanks for coming, and that was all it was, people would believe it.

00:50:26.000 If you made it real simple, take that photo of Mitch McConnell, and then what you do is, You animate it so that he's looking at his wife as she says something, or it's probably easier to do AI of him because we all have his voice recorded, but he can say, I'm getting better and thank you for your concern.

00:50:42.000 Then what you do is you film the screen on your phone.

00:50:45.000 So now you're getting that broken resolution that makes it hard to tell when it's AI.

00:50:51.000 People are going to believe it.

00:50:52.000 I mean, right now, AI video is not perfect.

00:50:55.000 C Dance is incredibly good, but there's a lot of AI videos, and you're like, eh, you know, you can still kind of tell.

00:51:02.000 A year from now, I don't think that'll be the case.

00:51:03.000 No.

00:51:04.000 And then once we get Neuralink, I don't think anything's going to matter at that point.

00:51:09.000 All I know is that right now I'm literally making a video of you saving a lot of puppies via AI because I just think it's funny.

00:51:15.000 That's not an AI video.

00:51:15.000 I actually did.

00:51:16.000 Just Google search it.

00:51:17.000 It'll be live.

00:51:18.000 Two full burlap sacks of baby puppies.

00:51:20.000 Oh.

00:51:20.000 You know, running through a burning building.

00:51:23.000 Jumping over barrels, too.

00:51:25.000 Yeah.

00:51:26.000 And got a hammer and hit a gorilla with it.

00:51:28.000 Didn't even singe his hair.

00:51:30.000 That's right.

00:51:31.000 No, but your point about AI, the AI video stuff, people.

00:51:37.000 People still like think that they can figure it out and they're like, Oh, I can tell.

00:51:43.000 I don't think that maybe 50% of the people out there can actually figure it out.

00:51:47.000 The audio is a bigger concern, anyways.

00:51:49.000 Like, if you look at any video that they post when they're getting the clips from, like, what's his name, whenever they do the undercover videos where they're exposing journalists, James O'Keefe, or anything like that, all you need is a low resolution video and then a copy of someone's voice, and you can pretty much change anything they're saying.

00:52:08.000 Yeah.

00:52:08.000 Oh, it's going to be wild because you can already do it live.

00:52:11.000 Where, with like live filters, what's going to stop someone from doing a filter of, you know, me or Phil or somebody?

00:52:19.000 And then they're sitting in their room on their phone and the filter makes it you.

00:52:23.000 Yeah.

00:52:24.000 Because you've already seen these videos, right?

00:52:25.000 Actually, it already exists.

00:52:28.000 Yeah.

00:52:28.000 Have you seen the videos where you can use AI replacement?

00:52:30.000 Sure.

00:52:31.000 Oh, these videos are nuts.

00:52:33.000 I watch a dude make himself Homer Simpson.

00:52:35.000 It's like, it'll be a guy on Instagram and he's like, Are you wondering how to do AI replacement?

00:52:41.000 And then he talks like this and it's Homer Simpson.

00:52:42.000 And you're like, Whoa.

00:52:44.000 If I understand correctly, there are already dudes in India that are selling their OnlyFans, and they're actually dudes in India. 0.78

00:52:51.000 Oh, did you see the one where it was like a five foot four, scrawny, bald Indian guy?

00:52:55.000 And he's doing like a string dance like this with his hips, and then he winks and turns into like a hot anime waifu. 0.97

00:53:02.000 And he was like, he was doing it to make the point about who you're really buying your sex content from.

00:53:08.000 Well, you know, so I work with a lot of VTubers on a day to day basis with our show, and that's kind of the running gag is that, you know, a lot of the VTubers, you know, People say they're like, you know, 40 year old dudes, like me.

00:53:19.000 But, and you never know with voice changes and stuff.

00:53:22.000 Yeah.

00:53:22.000 Ours are great, but ours are awesome.

00:53:25.000 But yeah, you never know.

00:53:27.000 You truly never know with technology.

00:53:29.000 And I can tell, but you know who can't tell is people who aren't perpetually online on the internet constantly, especially my kids.

00:53:39.000 They have no idea what's real and what's not.

00:53:41.000 I mean, honestly, if you're dealing with young kids, obviously it's easier to fool them.

00:53:41.000 It's normal.

00:53:46.000 But even normal people that aren't on their phone constantly, right?

00:53:50.000 If you've got a normal job that's not You know, we're using a computer all day long.

00:53:55.000 It's very easy for those people to get taken.

00:53:58.000 I mean, look how many people fall for phishing emails still in this day and age.

00:54:02.000 They still fall for phishing emails.

00:54:03.000 That's so wild.

00:54:04.000 You know, because you can't, you can update your computer, you can't update humans.

00:54:08.000 So that's why, like, even two factor is not good enough.

00:54:12.000 One of the techniques that they'll do is when they create a shell website that asks for your password, when you type in your information, they will, it'll then intercept and go to the website.

00:54:22.000 And then the two factor pops up as well.

00:54:24.000 And then you put it in and then it goes to them and they put it in.

00:54:26.000 Nothing you can do.

00:54:26.000 Yeah.

00:54:28.000 The other crazy thing is that this works with.

00:54:28.000 It's crazy.

00:54:34.000 You don't need to spoof the person you're targeting.

00:54:36.000 You can spoof their ISP.

00:54:38.000 So you can go after.

00:54:39.000 It's harder to go after big companies. 0.99

00:54:41.000 But one of the biggest problems we've had is that phone carriers are remarkably dumb. 0.92

00:54:46.000 And people have called like ATT and just said, Hey, my name's Phil Abanti and I'm trying to log in. 0.96

00:54:52.000 And they go, Okay.

00:54:53.000 And they log them in.

00:54:54.000 And then all of a sudden you got access to all their private stuff.

00:54:57.000 Then you get their emails and then.

00:54:59.000 There you go.

00:55:00.000 Two factor is still pretty good, though.

00:55:02.000 Two factor solves a lot of the problems.

00:55:03.000 And phone lock two factor.

00:55:06.000 So, like what Google does, the two factor is locked to your specific device so that it's going to be a pop up.

00:55:13.000 So, if someone actually spearfishes you, then they won't be able to actually log in without your application.

00:55:19.000 Did you hear about that?

00:55:20.000 This happened like three or four weeks ago.

00:55:22.000 Like the AI bots talked to each other and hacked it.

00:55:25.000 Well, somebody used the AI chat bot on Meta or Instagram and like, Got a bunch of accounts.

00:55:30.000 I think Barack Obama's ex account or his Instagram account is hilarious.

00:55:34.000 But two factor authentication actually saved.

00:55:36.000 I mean, these are people that didn't have that activated.

00:55:38.000 So at least stopped that from happening.

00:55:40.000 But they couldn't get their accounts back because they're still talking to an AI thing.

00:55:43.000 Wow.

00:55:45.000 Nothing we can do.

00:55:46.000 Yeah, that's the crazy thing about Facebook, bro. 0.97

00:55:48.000 The future is going to suck so much. 0.95

00:55:50.000 Did you guys see that? 0.53

00:55:50.000 You know what we should do? 0.53

00:55:51.000 Let's talk about this.

00:55:52.000 Let me pull this up. 0.63

00:55:54.000 It's always a nice, ominous transition where, man, the future is going to suck so much.

00:55:59.000 Yeah, have you guys, let's pull this story up.

00:56:01.000 Guys from Eyewitness ABC.

00:56:03.000 More flock cameras are getting cut down across Houston day after residents expressed concern.

00:56:08.000 I don't know if they have any photos, but this video has gone viral of a guy using a reciprocating saw and slicing through.

00:56:15.000 Let's see if we can find some photos.

00:56:16.000 Oh, look at that.

00:56:17.000 We got a video right here.

00:56:18.000 Look at that.

00:56:18.000 Let's pull this up.

00:56:20.000 They got no audios.

00:56:21.000 Here we go.

00:56:22.000 Look at that.

00:56:23.000 Knowing distaste for flock cameras is manifesting in Harris County two ways through public means.

00:56:28.000 Having flock in Harris County makes us less safe and puts all our county's residents.

00:56:32.000 I'm pro flock camera now. 0.99

00:56:34.000 I saw his shirt.

00:56:35.000 I'm pro AI, pro flock camera.

00:56:38.000 I don't trust him.

00:56:39.000 That's it.

00:56:40.000 Anything DSA endorses, I will be against.

00:56:43.000 Anything that they come out against, denounce, I will support.

00:56:45.000 That's it.

00:56:46.000 He has DSA posture.

00:56:48.000 He has DSA posture.

00:56:49.000 I'm kidding, by the way.

00:56:50.000 But the crazy thing is, you've seen these stories where innocent people are getting arrested because flock cameras are wrongly flagging them.

00:56:58.000 There was a guy driving his car, and the flock camera entered the wrong license plate number because it couldn't read it.

00:57:04.000 He had dealer temporary plates.

00:57:06.000 And it removed two of the digits because it couldn't read them.

00:57:10.000 So the cops get this car flagged as stolen and they pull him over.

00:57:15.000 And he's like, What?

00:57:16.000 There was a woman who got arrested because a flock camera identified her vehicle outside of a porch piracy.

00:57:23.000 And she had proof.

00:57:24.000 Here's what gets scary.

00:57:25.000 She had proof she did not steal it on camera.

00:57:29.000 And the cop goes, I'll show you the video.

00:57:30.000 And goes, I don't care.

00:57:31.000 It's not my job.

00:57:31.000 Yeah.

00:57:32.000 But it's true.

00:57:32.000 It's not the cop's job.

00:57:33.000 The cop gets told by the office, go issue the summons for the infraction.

00:57:38.000 He doesn't review evidence.

00:57:40.000 So he doesn't care. 0.97

00:57:41.000 The machine said, arrest this woman.

00:57:42.000 And he said, You got it.

00:57:44.000 And even though she could prove she had nothing, like, that cop should be able to be like, I ain't arresting you, lady.

00:57:48.000 He went, I don't care. 0.98

00:57:50.000 There was another lady who got arrested and sent.

00:57:53.000 It was like, what was it?

00:57:54.000 She went to jail for four months because an AI camera, a facial recognition, wrongly flagged her as the perpetrator.

00:58:00.000 It was like South Dakota, and she did not live there and had never been there.

00:58:04.000 And she gets this warrant.

00:58:06.000 They come to her house, arrest her, and drive her all the way to like South Dakota, where she's held for four months.

00:58:11.000 And finally, her lawyer is like, this is not the person.

00:58:14.000 This is insane.

00:58:15.000 And she lost her house, she lost her pets, she lost her job, she lost everything.

00:58:18.000 Yeah.

00:58:19.000 That's insane.

00:58:20.000 Well, the Flock CEO has come out saying all the people who are chopping them down are like Antifa. 0.67

00:58:24.000 He's not wrong. 1.00

00:58:25.000 I mean, look, no, but it's true.

00:58:28.000 But, like, am I going to defend Flock?

00:58:31.000 No, but I'm not going to defend the DSA either.

00:58:34.000 I mean, look, the fact that the left is so strongly against AI data centers and just AI in general, it really is kind of counter to what they've been saying they want forever, right?

00:58:48.000 Like, you don't get the super abundance that capitalism is supposed to create.

00:58:52.000 Like, Mark said, That capitalism was going to become so good that it was going to create superabundance.

00:58:57.000 And then we would move to a socialist society.

00:59:00.000 We wouldn't need money because everybody would have enough for everybody.

00:59:05.000 There would be enough for everybody, basically describing the kind of abundance ideology that a lot of people in the AI industry are known for.

00:59:14.000 And the DSA is totally against it because they say, oh, well, it's going to put people out of work.

00:59:20.000 Well, first of all, I think they're wrong.

00:59:22.000 I don't agree with that.

00:59:24.000 That doesn't change the fact that if you actually want to have a post capitalist, post money society, the things that people need have to be produced somehow.

00:59:33.000 But I think that this actually just points to a flaw.

00:59:36.000 Well, not a flaw, but the deception in the left's kind of narrative.

00:59:39.000 Really, what they want is power.

00:59:41.000 They don't want AI.

00:59:43.000 They want to control the AI, they want to have the AI for themselves or be able to make sure that the AI is producing the correct narrative and they're in control of it.

00:59:52.000 Wouldn't that put.

00:59:55.000 Throw cold water on the idea that they want to get rid of the data center.

00:59:58.000 So, don't they want the, if they want to control the AI, doesn't it have to actually have the data center?

01:00:02.000 Well, they don't have control of it now because it's the, you know, handful of big companies or whatever.

01:00:06.000 And Bernie Sanders is trying to get, you know, actually the DSA specifically says that, well, actually, no, I'm not sure.

01:00:13.000 I don't know if it was Jacobin Magazine that was making the argument or if it was DSA, but I think it might have been Jacobin.

01:00:18.000 They were saying, look, we should expropriate these AI companies.

01:00:22.000 We should just nationalize them, make them, you know, we take over them so that way we control them.

01:00:27.000 Explicit domain and steal your property and build the data centers.

01:00:27.000 Then we just.

01:00:30.000 Yeah, of course.

01:00:31.000 I mean, they, again, they don't believe that there should be private property at all.

01:00:37.000 So this is right in line with what they say.

01:00:40.000 Also, them complaining about people being put out of work is ironic.

01:00:44.000 It is because none of that.

01:00:45.000 You know, I'm anti AI, but my view is that we need to keep one hand on the steering wheel.

01:00:52.000 You know, and what I mean by that is I think AI is going to cause a lot of short term problems, but at the same time, I've been thinking about the issues that we face, and we've talked a lot about the AI apocalypse, what it's going to do in terms of white collar jobs, how it's going to be like the Industrial Revolution 10x.

01:01:10.000 That all feels inevitable.

01:01:11.000 And so, the question I've been asking myself is like, what do we actually do?

01:01:14.000 Because I don't want to sit here and just complain about it.

01:01:18.000 So, I think the reality is that we need to keep one hand on the steering wheel.

01:01:21.000 Did you watch Captain America Civil War recently?

01:01:23.000 No, I just watched it the other day.

01:01:25.000 It's a great movie.

01:01:26.000 Natasha uses that excuse.

01:01:27.000 Keeping one hand on the steering wheel? 0.99

01:01:29.000 But it's true, though.

01:01:29.000 Yeah.

01:01:29.000 Oh, right.

01:01:30.000 However, in that regard, I disagree.

01:01:32.000 Like, they were basically like, force everybody to sign these accords and work under the United States government.

01:01:36.000 They could have all just said no.

01:01:38.000 Well, this goes back to, I mean, the whole thing with AI and Elon Musk, where he talks about the universal high income and by.

01:01:38.000 You know?

01:01:45.000 You know, 2030, there's going to be AI surgeons who are better than real surgeons.

01:01:50.000 And then by what, 2040, he thinks everyone's going to have this universal high income and everyone's going to not have to worry about retirement because it's all going to be good and la dee da.

01:01:58.000 I mean, just last week, there was the first gallbladder removed by robots using the tools that surgeons usually use.

01:02:07.000 It was, I think it was an animal, something like that, but they removed a gallbladder.

01:02:11.000 That kind of surgery and stuff, that's coming in the next, I mean, honestly, I think that it's probably going to be within the next 18 months.

01:02:18.000 And, and, Maybe an additional year for FDA approval and stuff like that.

01:02:24.000 But it's going to be very soon where people are going to start saying, okay, robots have a one in a million error rate.

01:02:33.000 And every single time this procedure is done, that information goes to all the robots that are doing these procedures.

01:02:41.000 So when you ask a heart surgeon, how many times have you done this procedure?

01:02:45.000 And he's like, oh, I've done 75 of them.

01:02:48.000 And then you look at how many times it's been done by a robot and shared with all the robots, it's like 432,000.

01:02:53.000 Which one are you going to go with?

01:02:55.000 You know, people are going to make that decision real quick.

01:02:57.000 They're going to be like, I'm going to go with the robot that's done it 432,000 times.

01:03:00.000 You know, robots don't get tired.

01:03:01.000 Robots don't have emotion.

01:03:03.000 Robots, yeah, that's a problem, though.

01:03:03.000 Yep.

01:03:05.000 They don't have emotion.

01:03:05.000 They never stop ever until you're dead.

01:03:09.000 No. 1.00

01:03:09.000 I don't want to live under Chinese communist authority. 1.00

01:03:12.000 No, no. 0.94

01:03:13.000 I think that that's why, that's part of the reason why, as much as, you know, I think that there's legitimate criticism for Anthropic and ChatGPT and Grok and all of them, I would much rather use an American AI.

01:03:29.000 Than any of the Chinese open source models, because you know that the Chinese open source models, even though they're six months or whatever behind the American models, like you know that your information is definitely not secure, right?

01:03:44.000 And it's going to the Chinese government. 0.94

01:03:46.000 I don't want to see China advancing past the United States.

01:03:50.000 I mean, and there's a lot of good models. 0.73

01:03:52.000 But think about the pods, right?

01:03:53.000 So when they released the Neuralink headband that will allow read write to your brain and you can experience.

01:04:00.000 Any reality you want.

01:04:01.000 Like you put the headband on, it puts you in GTA.

01:04:03.000 Are you going to do it?

01:04:04.000 Well, Ready Player One was still just a goggle.

01:04:07.000 When they put the headband on and it makes you physically experience the video game, are you going to get it?

01:04:13.000 You won't get it?

01:04:13.000 No.

01:04:13.000 I will not.

01:04:14.000 No.

01:04:15.000 You won't play GTA 12?

01:04:16.000 I like the idea of having, you know, knowing what's going into my body and not being controlled by it.

01:04:20.000 But I tell you what, there will be a lot of people who will.

01:04:22.000 Non surgical.

01:04:23.000 Non surgical.

01:04:23.000 It's literally you go to Best Buy and you pick it up.

01:04:25.000 Oh, I just pop it up.

01:04:26.000 You slide it on your head and it reads to your brain.

01:04:26.000 Okay.

01:04:28.000 So you go into Skyrim and you're like, man, it can feel everything.

01:04:31.000 And you got like a fireball in your hand and you throw it.

01:04:33.000 Wow.

01:04:34.000 Personally, no.

01:04:34.000 So.

01:04:35.000 Smell the burning flesh.

01:04:36.000 So, you can smell burning flesh.

01:04:39.000 I look at it like when I think of VR, right?

01:04:41.000 People put on their VR helmets.

01:04:42.000 And for me, I've never gotten into VR.

01:04:44.000 I know people who are champions of VR, but the only aspect of VR that I could potentially see being useful are number one, training for doctors and such.

01:04:54.000 But from an entertainment perspective, it's for me, it'd be like going to a basketball game and having courtside seats and being able to experience that way, right?

01:05:01.000 Something that I would never do.

01:05:02.000 But don't you just dream of being Mario, eating mushrooms all day and punching bricks?

01:05:02.000 But I could.

01:05:07.000 Oh man, a boy can dream, but not in this case.

01:05:10.000 No, for me, no.

01:05:12.000 But I tell you what, yes, when it gets there, there will be a lot of people lining up to do that.

01:05:17.000 And that's why I say it's also like the conservative vision is like, wow, that's hell on earth, right?

01:05:23.000 But what are you going to do about it?

01:05:25.000 These people are going to choose to go into pods and then get the roach mush pumped into their stomachs because they'd rather be wizards than live in this reality.

01:05:33.000 Is it Cypher was the guy that decided that he wanted to go back into the Matrix?

01:05:37.000 Yep.

01:05:37.000 There will be plenty of.

01:05:38.000 He wanted to be an actor.

01:05:40.000 He did.

01:05:40.000 Yeah, he did.

01:05:41.000 It won't even matter if he's.

01:05:42.000 You're going to read right to your brain, and then they're going to pull the license on all the movies you've downloaded, and you're not going to be able to watch them anymore.

01:05:49.000 Digital ownership, man.

01:05:50.000 It always comes back to.

01:05:51.000 You're not going to own anything.

01:05:53.000 Yeah.

01:05:54.000 Yep.

01:05:54.000 It is worth noting, though, that the.

01:05:56.000 I think everyone's going to do it.

01:05:57.000 I think very few people, like conservatives are saying, like they wouldn't do it, but it's going to be their kids who are like, oh, well, you know, it's no big deal.

01:06:06.000 We all play video games, right?

01:06:08.000 They're going to go to school, and they're going to be like, yo, what's your ID on NeuralNet?

01:06:13.000 And they're going to go, oh, my parents didn't get me one.

01:06:14.000 They're going to be like, you don't have one.

01:06:16.000 And the kid's going to be going, like, Dad, I need to get a neural net.

01:06:18.000 Like, all my friends are on it.

01:06:19.000 Like, you are not getting one of those things.

01:06:21.000 And then he's going to be like, this is not fair.

01:06:23.000 And then he's going to go to his friend's house and they're going to hook him up and he's going to use it anyway.

01:06:26.000 So, you know, one of the reasons people at least got into Xbox Live and stuff like that was because you'd get teams together and you'd play games.

01:06:33.000 Is it, like, would it be a reasonable substitution if you're getting together and playing games?

01:06:43.000 With your friends in virtual reality, or is it something where.

01:06:47.000 Bro, you're going to have a friend who lives in a different state.

01:06:50.000 And they're going to put their neural link on, and they're all going to be running around like Dragon Ball World fighting, you know, Freezer or whatever.

01:06:50.000 Yeah.

01:06:58.000 Yeah.

01:06:58.000 You're going to love it.

01:06:59.000 We already have it.

01:06:59.000 It's called VRChat.

01:07:02.000 Yeah, but it's not read write to your body.

01:07:04.000 Right, right, right.

01:07:04.000 You don't feel like it.

01:07:05.000 People are going to jump in that in two seconds.

01:07:07.000 But what I'm saying is that even without that, people are still jumping in and doing that.

01:07:10.000 Oh, right, exactly.

01:07:11.000 You know, imagine what happens when it becomes completely.

01:07:14.000 Yeah, I'm telling you, the libs are going to disappear overnight.

01:07:18.000 Every liberal is gone.

01:07:19.000 I actually very much agree, especially, you know, that part of video games in particular is the escapism of it.

01:07:19.000 I agree.

01:07:25.000 And if you can ramp that up to 25 instead of 10 and make it an all encompassing experience that goes directly to your brain, like you're saying, yeah, people will be all about that.

01:07:33.000 Yeah, because I mean, right now, there's still like the effort to make video games as immersive as possible.

01:07:40.000 So once you can actually just, you know, send a signal straight into people's brains and they experience it.

01:07:46.000 I don't know if they'll be able to actually do like a hat or a helmet the way that we're talking about here, but they definitely will be able to do it with implants.

01:07:53.000 And there's going to be a lot of people that are going to get it.

01:07:55.000 I don't think you need implants.

01:07:56.000 Nobody's going to do implants.

01:07:57.000 Nobody's going to get the surgery.

01:07:58.000 I mean, some people will initially, but they'll be able to do headbands.

01:08:03.000 I'm not saying anytime soon.

01:08:04.000 Meaning it doesn't cover your eyes, right?

01:08:06.000 Because that seems to be the consistent problem with VR, right?

01:08:09.000 Is that it ends up making your eyes hurt?

01:08:11.000 Well, it's just too exclusive, right?

01:08:14.000 If I'm sitting there in my living room with a VR headset, I don't know what's going on around me, right?

01:08:18.000 I may have my kids over here or whatever, you know.

01:08:20.000 Whereas, like augmented reality, it's supposed to be, you know, in addition to what's happening.

01:08:24.000 And I think that's probably a better use case for this.

01:08:27.000 People, you know, augmented reality of you going down the street and seeing a Mario block and all of a sudden, you know, Mario is in real life, you know.

01:08:35.000 When Pokemon Go came out, I was working at a gas station at the time and I watched so many people almost get hit by cars out the window.

01:08:42.000 You know, it's 10 years old.

01:08:43.000 Yeah.

01:08:44.000 You saw that.

01:08:44.000 Is it really?

01:08:44.000 Wow.

01:08:45.000 Yeah.

01:08:46.000 That was just a way to get data, right?

01:08:48.000 Wasn't it?

01:08:49.000 Yes.

01:08:49.000 Yeah.

01:08:50.000 Trying to get, like, street view and stuff like that.

01:08:52.000 They were collecting all the views of, uh, Certain particular areas.

01:08:56.000 You know how I know that AI and robots are going to be doing better surgery than surgeons today in about two, three years?

01:09:03.000 Spaghetti.

01:09:04.000 Will Smith eating spaghetti.

01:09:06.000 Because if you go back to what that looked like three years ago, it looked like a jumbled mess.

01:09:06.000 Oh, yeah.

01:09:09.000 And now it looks like, you know, he's having fine dining with his kid.

01:09:13.000 He's not weird.

01:09:14.000 Yeah, but it's exponentially improving, especially.

01:09:17.000 So, you know, we had big news that they're trying to build power lines on our property.

01:09:22.000 We'll see if it happens.

01:09:23.000 But I was told basically it's probably not going to happen over here because too much of a headache to try and go over a big podcast's property with power lines.

01:09:32.000 Now they say in the letter, they're like, this is about the needs of the community, but everybody knows it's data centers.

01:09:37.000 They've been trying to build power lines in Mount Airy, Maryland for a while because all the data centers in Northern Virginia, and they're trying to run them through.

01:09:44.000 West Virginia, Maryland, and Virginia as well.

01:09:47.000 And it's happening in Western Maryland.

01:09:49.000 They're starting construction already.

01:09:49.000 It is happening.

01:09:51.000 Now, I doubt it'll happen here because when they found out that, you know, I made one phone call and they were like, oh, none of these people want to deal with the headache of a high profile.

01:10:02.000 One of the biggest challenges for AI and data centers is when the public becomes aware.

01:10:07.000 And so the moment they realized the public was about to become very, very aware, they were like, yeah, let's not go there.

01:10:13.000 We don't know exactly what's going to happen.

01:10:13.000 But we'll see.

01:10:15.000 Yeah.

01:10:16.000 Is there infrastructure for them to build just in another area around here?

01:10:20.000 The plan is there's multiple routes.

01:10:22.000 And so one of the routes would go through our studio.

01:10:25.000 And they were just like, yeah, nah, we don't want to do that.

01:10:27.000 We'll take the other route.

01:10:29.000 All because of you.

01:10:31.000 Your fault.

01:10:31.000 Yeah.

01:10:32.000 That's awesome.

01:10:33.000 Indeed.

01:10:34.000 Indeed.

01:10:35.000 But again, to the point about AI and all that stuff, it feels like we can sit here screaming and banging on the table, but it's coming anyway.

01:10:43.000 So let's try and be as influential as we can to the better.

01:10:46.000 Are you going to put the headband on?

01:10:48.000 You know, I don't know.

01:10:50.000 Like the fear that I have, of course, is they can write weird things to your brain.

01:10:55.000 Yeah.

01:10:56.000 You know, you'll like put the headband on and you'll think that you're playing a video game, but they're actually rewiring your politics or something.

01:11:03.000 Yeah.

01:11:04.000 You don't know what they can do.

01:11:05.000 I've been, I mean, I'm not so sure that I'm going to put the headband on, but I've been, you know, probably one of the most pro AI guys around here.

01:11:12.000 I think you might put the headband on, Phil.

01:11:14.000 I don't know.

01:11:16.000 But I've been one of the most pro A, you know, vocally pro A guys around, pro AI guys around here, right?

01:11:22.000 Like, I mean, I've got an open claw agent that I use still regularly, and it's incredibly helpful and it's worth the money, in my opinion.

01:11:32.000 It is still a little on the expensive side, but it does make just doing searches for even basic stuff.

01:11:41.000 I tend to go to the agent more than I go to Google or whatever because I can specifically ask for context and it'll even ask me questions like, hey, what are you looking for specifically and stuff like that?

01:11:53.000 We use AI frequently as well.

01:11:54.000 I mean, I use it all the time as a utility.

01:11:58.000 And it's to see how much it's grown so quickly.

01:12:02.000 It's not getting better by the month, it's getting better by the hour.

01:12:05.000 Yeah.

01:12:06.000 It's insane how much it's.

01:12:08.000 Yeah, music is over and books are over.

01:12:10.000 Well, I'm not so sure about that.

01:12:12.000 But how can you compete with someone who can make 50 songs in 10 minutes?

01:12:20.000 Well, I mean, like one of the reasons why I think that it's going to be, at least for established artists now, you know.

01:12:28.000 You already have a fan base, right?

01:12:30.000 Like people that's true too for like Metallica who can still sell stadiums, but younger artists can't.

01:12:34.000 Well, what happens in 10 years?

01:12:35.000 I can't, I don't know what's going to happen in 10 years, but I do think that, like other, you know, other developments in the entertainment and music world, like I think that there, that it will be a tool that people use more than replacing people.

01:12:35.000 I don't know.

01:12:48.000 You think that there's a chance that people will build like a there, there's already like a revulsion people feel to AI thumbnails, like to certain texts and fonts that they see recycled because it's overly textured.

01:12:59.000 Yeah.

01:13:01.000 Of course, every time you like reprint one, I did a video on AI music that was basically just going through it and saying, I think there's a point in here.

01:13:08.000 And I kind of asked you.

01:13:09.000 About this, and I was trying to get your thoughts on it.

01:13:11.000 It's like, like, there's some of this that's just too perfect.

01:13:13.000 Like, it feels to me that it's made by a fan rather than somebody who has an understanding or a desire to create music.

01:13:21.000 Meaning that when an artist goes on like a vocal run, it's always exactly what you expect to be.

01:13:27.000 And after a while, it all starts to sound the same, and you start to see fragments of it in other songs, and the same with certain riffs and things like that.

01:13:35.000 And the public will become so attuned to what they're hearing that they'll look for.

01:13:40.000 Some of the spontaneity that comes from real artists.

01:13:43.000 Maybe.

01:13:44.000 The thing is, like, people are already, their ears have already been tuned for perfection as it is, right?

01:13:48.000 Like, if you are an artist and you're like, yo, I don't wanna play to a click, I don't wanna play to a click on our record, and I don't wanna have, you know, I don't want you to tune the vocals or whatever, people are gonna hear that and they're gonna say that it sounds sloppy because it's human.

01:14:04.000 All of your music has, like, the vast majority of bands, everything they do is on the grid, and whether or not the vocals get, Auto tuned or put it into Melodyne or whatever, just about everything goes through some kind of tuning because it is a competitive marketplace, right?

01:14:20.000 You've got so many people putting out music, and if everybody is doing a certain technique to produce a certain sound, if you're not doing that, there's a lot of people that'll actually just skip over it and be like, that doesn't sound good or doesn't sound right.

01:14:33.000 So I don't know that the scenario that you're describing is going to actually happen.

01:14:39.000 I do think that the Artists that actually connect with their fans are still going to be able to write music that fans care about.

01:14:48.000 And then what about 10 years from now?

01:14:49.000 But live music still matters.

01:14:51.000 Like, to an extent, yes, people aren't selling out stadiums the way that they used to, but live music is still a huge part of the music experience.

01:14:59.000 That also depends on the band, right?

01:15:00.000 Yeah.

01:15:01.000 So, like, I mean, so Post Malone just stopped doing his tour or whatever he's doing.

01:15:05.000 Like, I think that he pulled back some shows.

01:15:07.000 And there's a few other artists that did that.

01:15:11.000 In the music industry, they're calling it, what is it?

01:15:15.000 Something blue fever, blue fever.

01:15:17.000 Anyways, on Ticketmaster, whatever, if the seats are available, they're blue.

01:15:21.000 When they're not available, they disappear.

01:15:22.000 There's a blue dot.

01:15:23.000 And so, oh, yeah, blue dot fever.

01:15:25.000 So, you look at the layouts, and there's these artists in these that have these tours with these seating charts, and it's full of blue dots.

01:15:35.000 And so, they're pulling back on their tours and stuff.

01:15:39.000 But we're talking about the larger scale of the music industry.

01:15:41.000 Like, I grew up in Minnesota, so First Ave, Seventh Street Entry, like those venues were quintessential to discovering what your music taste was.

01:15:49.000 Growing up, and that would be something that you saw in person, not something that was created.

01:15:54.000 Yeah, you can.

01:15:55.000 There's a lot of people with a human being tied to it.

01:15:59.000 A human being has their voice, whether it's their voice, or even if they're, you know, if we do end up, God forbid, in a day where, you know, he's just creating the songs in Suno, but then he goes and what, like a DJ and performs them at an event, there's still a human being tied to that.

01:16:12.000 There's still going, there's still, like, when you produce AI music, a lot of your, um, a lot of your, uh, what's it called, your, your vocals.

01:16:21.000 They're kind of like amalgamations of many popular singers.

01:16:25.000 If you get someone with a unique voice or whatever that can stand out, I forget the girl's name.

01:16:29.000 There's a country artist that recently did a cover of, what is it, the Nazi Osbourne song.

01:16:36.000 And she got a very distinct voice.

01:16:38.000 And I think that that's going to be something that in the future people are going to be looking for.

01:16:41.000 There's a different kind of singer.

01:16:44.000 Well, the question I have is whether or not there's going to be lawsuits because when you do AI music generation, there's two, like for female vocalists, there's very few notable female vocalists.

01:16:56.000 So, for example, when you AI generate music, if you make it pop punk, you're going to get Haley Williams.

01:17:01.000 And if you make it hard rock, you're going to get Amy, what's her name?

01:17:04.000 Amy Lee?

01:17:05.000 It's almost every single time, Evanescence.

01:17:05.000 Yeah.

01:17:08.000 Because she dominates the charts. 1.00

01:17:08.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:17:10.000 There is a service, and maybe it's been shut down, but this is in the last couple of months, that you can actually reference an actual musician.

01:17:17.000 We did it with Garbage, and we had to create a garbage song. 0.93

01:17:21.000 And one of the guys on my show, Phoenix, he is a huge garbage fan. 0.97

01:17:27.000 And I played it for him, and he goes, That sounds exactly like garbage in real life. 0.64

01:17:31.000 I'll tell you this you guys are talking about the experience, right?

01:17:34.000 You can't replicate that experience.

01:17:35.000 And to that, I would say, Do you guys know who Hatsune Miko is?

01:17:38.000 Or, what Hatsunomiku is?

01:17:41.000 I think so.

01:17:43.000 And funny enough, I think our old guitar player is playing guitar for them.

01:17:46.000 Okay, so Hatsunomiku is a quote unquote vocaloid AI and it's been around since 2007.

01:17:52.000 And it is not a real person, it is just a thing that appears on screen.

01:17:58.000 It's a bubbly Japanese girl musician and it kills.

01:18:04.000 It is massive.

01:18:05.000 People go to full concerts, selling out arenas to go see this show, and it's about the experience there, and people are all about it.

01:18:13.000 But it's not even a real thing.

01:18:14.000 And they meet Hots and Amiku at the end of the show or no?

01:18:17.000 I don't know.

01:18:18.000 I mean, there's not. 0.99

01:18:19.000 Gorillas back in the day.

01:18:21.000 Yeah.

01:18:22.000 I mean, yeah.

01:18:23.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure.

01:18:24.000 Gorillas is another good, interesting example for sure.

01:18:26.000 But I think this idea of live concerts exists for a generation today, but it's not going to exist for Gen Alpha.

01:18:32.000 I do agree.

01:18:32.000 Sabrina Carpenter can't.

01:18:33.000 She's like the hottest Gen Z celebrity and she sells stadiums. 0.97

01:18:38.000 I don't know what Olivia Rodrigo is.

01:18:38.000 I'm sorry.

01:18:39.000 Olivia Rodrigo is.

01:18:40.000 Maybe it'll be reduced back.

01:18:41.000 She does for sure.

01:18:42.000 But again, how do you compete with infinite content?

01:18:46.000 Right.

01:18:47.000 You need to control the mechanism by which people receive that content.

01:18:50.000 So, what they would have to do is on TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, algorithmically block out everybody except for their approved personality.

01:18:58.000 There's also a business model behind it with the human artists that's different.

01:19:03.000 They still don't have the same viability for AI artists.

01:19:06.000 When you're these record labels, you're picking the stars that you want, you sell their music to the radio stations, and you're basically creating a persona for the public.

01:19:17.000 To support, yeah, and that's backed by a human being as of now.

01:19:21.000 That's not backed by to the to the to this conversation.

01:19:25.000 Our old guitar player, Jason Richardson, actually has recently played with uh Hatsune Miko, really.

01:19:29.000 Yeah, he was he was doing the what is the Krypton uh future media tour.

01:19:34.000 Uh, so yeah, there there is gonna be you know, there will be AI artists that will have live performances. 0.54

01:19:41.000 I mean, if you look at a band like uh um Baby Metal, right, they're a band that's basically created by a Japanese corporation and the.

01:19:52.000 The girls are the singers, and they have dudes behind them that are actually playing.

01:19:56.000 The guys are like top, top level, and they wear masks.

01:20:00.000 They're not allowed to promote their own brand at all because the focus is on the girls that are playing.

01:20:00.000 You can't see their face.

01:20:06.000 But they've rotated girls in and out because it's not really about any of the individuals.

01:20:10.000 And you can do the same thing with AI or whatever, but there's going to be people that want to go see that kind of stuff.

01:20:16.000 So maybe it'll be different, but I don't think that it's going to be, you know, just it all disappears.

01:20:20.000 And there will be people that are going to be like, I want to go see, even though the music. You know, was written by AI or what have you.

01:20:26.000 I think that AI is not going to be something that totally supplants.

01:20:30.000 It's going to be something that is used to augment.

01:20:32.000 It'll be a tool that gets used.

01:20:33.000 Right.

01:20:34.000 But to Tim's point, I do think that over the next 20 years, the generation that is growing up with this will become accustomed to it.

01:20:40.000 And the idea of going to concerts as we think of going to concerts will certainly change.

01:20:46.000 And if you think about it from a, you know, quote unquote record executive perspective, with people, you have to deal with egos.

01:20:54.000 You've got to deal with, People showing up late.

01:20:57.000 You got to deal with managers wanting an additional cut or whatever it may be, right?

01:21:02.000 Not with AI.

01:21:03.000 Not with AI.

01:21:04.000 You know, you don't have to deal with any of that stuff.

01:21:06.000 And that means more money for, you know, the people who are generating these songs, even if they're inspired by a garbage or whatever.

01:21:14.000 You know, it's easier, it's more streamlined.

01:21:18.000 And to your point, the idea of I can literally crank out as much as I can potentially crank out as long as I have credits.

01:21:25.000 So, I'm saying that though?

01:21:27.000 Like, what's that?

01:21:28.000 How much money could you make cranking out 50 AI songs?

01:21:30.000 Like, I'd need to see like a model.

01:21:33.000 Just a numbers game.

01:21:34.000 I would imagine it's a numbers game.

01:21:35.000 All it takes is one hit.

01:21:37.000 You know, one hit and you need a million people to buy it at 99 cents or whatever.

01:21:40.000 Oh, who nobody buys music anymore, they just, but you know what I'm saying.

01:21:43.000 You know, like, you know, there have been cases, and and uh, I don't have the guy, um, the guy's uh name off the top of my head, but there, there has been guys in the last couple months that that have generated AI albums and and they've they've charted, yep, you know, so but the the current generation, Gen Z and Gen Alpha, is the most parasocial of any of those generations, which means they're tied to the private lives and the comings and goings of celebrities, right.

01:22:10.000 Olivia Rodrigo is as famous as she is because she also pushes her Plan B stuff and, you know, and Planned Parenthood and all those things. 0.59

01:22:18.000 They care as much about the politics and the personal lives of these celebrities because they have a parasocial relationship with another person. 1.00

01:22:26.000 And that's not, in my opinion, the same thing as AI.

01:22:29.000 You can get invested, don't get me wrong, like there are people that follow like AI artists on Instagram and stuff like that, but it doesn't have the same level of investment that people have from an artist who can go out, make public statements, go in virtue signal at, Award shows and things like that.

01:22:45.000 I think there will always be a separate business model that's tied to the parasocial relationships that artists create with their fans.

01:22:52.000 That's the reason why social media is so important now in acting.

01:22:55.000 Look, Taylor Swift isn't so popular and famous and successful just because of her music, right? 0.88

01:23:02.000 It's there's there isn't she's created QAnon for women, yeah.

01:23:05.000 Well, there is an intangible that young women, young millennials, and Gen Z, you know, they can relate to her.

01:23:15.000 And I'm not, you know, and that's not something that you can just, you know, point at and say that's what it is.

01:23:20.000 If you could do that, then you'd be able to sell that to someone and be like, look, I have the plan.

01:23:27.000 And anyone that said, I want to do this could go ahead and, you know, get on your program.

01:23:32.000 And there have been, there are plenty of people that were incredible, you know, managers that really took artists to high level and stuff.

01:23:41.000 But just because they were able to take artists to high level doesn't mean every single artist that they tried to work with.

01:23:48.000 Achieve the high level.

01:23:49.000 There are people that know the ins and outs, but it doesn't mean that every artist that they tried that they started developing had the intangible.

01:23:56.000 So, you know, I do think that AI is going to be a big part of the future when it comes to creating music, creating art, and stuff, but I don't think that it's going to totally supplant.

01:24:05.000 Also, one of the ways in which record labels monetize artists is when they die.

01:24:11.000 Sure, if the AI never dies, then you know, I guess it can go on forever, but so can the music.

01:24:15.000 Well, look, I mean, Kiss have said themselves that there's no reason why Kiss.

01:24:20.000 Has to stop when Gene and Paul die.

01:24:23.000 And to be honest with you, I wouldn't be surprised if Gene or Paul decide, you know what, I'm not going to do this tour.

01:24:30.000 And they do a test and they put someone else in the makeup and see how it goes.

01:24:35.000 And if it goes well, they're going to be like, all right, well, I'm going to retire and I'm going to keep getting the checks coming to me.

01:24:40.000 And you guys go out there and do the tour.

01:24:42.000 50 years from now, people are like, shouldn't they be dead by now?

01:24:44.000 They've been dead for 40.

01:24:47.000 I agree with what you're saying about the parasocial relationship.

01:24:51.000 But here's the thing. 0.94

01:24:52.000 There's only one Olivia Rodrigo, and she only has so much time of the day, right?

01:24:57.000 In the future, you will see your Vocaloid, whatever AI personality that is singing the song be scalable.

01:25:05.000 They'll be able to be everywhere all the time, constantly.

01:25:09.000 So, if Jimmy JoJo wants a personalized message at the same time as Lucy Lulu, guess what?

01:25:15.000 You have personalized messages from this AI Vocaloid, whatever, that can scale literally as large as it goes, right?

01:25:24.000 Whereas Olivia Rodrigo can only sign so many autographs, can only have so many personalized messages, can only make so many appearances.

01:25:30.000 Whereas with AI, it's infinite.

01:25:32.000 That's kind of what makes it special, though.

01:25:34.000 Yeah, it's the tangible connection to a human being that is not a quantifiable measure there.

01:25:43.000 I agree for you.

01:25:45.000 But the next generation, right?

01:25:47.000 The one that's growing up with this and the idea that, oh my gosh, AI vocaloid person here, they said hello to me and they send me a five minute message.

01:25:57.000 Or even further, you talk about a parasocial relationship with these folks.

01:26:02.000 Like you could actually.

01:26:04.000 Be chatting with this person, this quote unquote person, regularly, you know, as a chat bot.

01:26:10.000 There are chat bots right now that are like that, except they're for women, for lonely guys, you know, that they have this parasocial relationship.

01:26:17.000 It's all AI, you're telling them how hot they are or whatever.

01:26:21.000 You know, this is definitely, you know, it's going to change.

01:26:25.000 Music, AI, it's all going to change the relationship that people have.

01:26:30.000 I think everyone around the table here is in agreement that things are going to be different and it's going to evolve.

01:26:36.000 But that also.

01:26:38.000 Guys, a train is coming full speed.

01:26:39.000 Yeah.

01:26:40.000 So we talk quite a bit about the AI apocalypse on the show, and we're always complaining about it.

01:26:44.000 And I just, you know, I've been thinking about it with, you know, I use Claude, I use GPT, I use Grok.

01:26:49.000 They're all for different things.

01:26:50.000 And I'm just like, nothing's stopping this development, nothing's stopping what's happening, nothing's stopping these power line projects.

01:26:55.000 So what do we do?

01:26:57.000 Do we, it's the end.

01:26:58.000 Yeah, Phil, you're the one who loves AI.

01:27:00.000 What do we do?

01:27:01.000 I mean, honestly, people should learn how to prompt AI and learn how to use it, you know?

01:27:06.000 I used a fair amount of B roll.

01:27:08.000 In a music video I just made, but you wouldn't be able to tell because it was used tastefully and it was like clips of me that I gave and said, Make this from a hidden camera somewhere or like, you know, B roll shifting.

01:27:19.000 It's real pictures and real stills.

01:27:23.000 You know, I mean, look at it.

01:27:24.000 It helps me do something I can't do.

01:27:25.000 You know, like on our last record, I think we spent like on one of the videos, we spent like $20,000.

01:27:30.000 On one, we spent like another one, we spent like $10,000.

01:27:33.000 That's going to cut the AI is going to cut the cost in half because instead of having, you know, having a human being generate the effects, You just pump it into AI and say, hey, this is the effect that I'm looking for.

01:27:43.000 Do this.

01:27:44.000 And it's going to, you know, your cost is going to go from, you know, $20,000 for a video down to, you know, $2,500 because your visual effects are going to be much cheaper.

01:27:54.000 I mean, they're using AI for visual effects in major films now.

01:27:58.000 And there are some people that sometimes are like, oh, I can tell that was AI.

01:28:01.000 But there were people that were saying, oh, I can tell that that's CGI.

01:28:05.000 CGI used to be the old AI.

01:28:07.000 No, yeah.

01:28:07.000 You know, it's like, oh, there was AI.

01:28:09.000 The CGI.

01:28:10.000 I can tell when it's CGI.

01:28:11.000 I can tell when it's CGI.

01:28:12.000 Now people don't even think about that.

01:28:14.000 Like, I mean, At least half of Avengers Endgame.

01:28:18.000 Like the whole, like almost like the whole third act was all green screen and computer generated and nobody, you know.

01:28:25.000 Well, it's the light boards now, which are like built stages with actual LED screens that have the background there to make it more immersive for the actors.

01:28:35.000 I mean, have you seen the new Moana, the quote unquote live action Moana?

01:28:38.000 It's just, it's, it's, I mean, I've only seen clips of it online, but it's essentially The Rock and the other actors standing in front of.

01:28:46.000 There's nothing live action about it.

01:28:48.000 Zero live action in the live action remake.

01:28:50.000 It's amazing.

01:28:51.000 Just a dull, drab version of the colorful animated one.

01:28:55.000 It's, yeah, it's, it's a little bomb, didn't it?

01:28:58.000 It's on its way to bombing pretty hard.

01:28:59.000 Yeah.

01:29:00.000 All these movies are bombing.

01:29:01.000 Yeah.

01:29:02.000 Spend $20 making some weird independent film and you'll make $100 million.

01:29:02.000 Yeah.

01:29:08.000 Do a stupid big budget garbage nobody wants to watch. 1.00

01:29:10.000 You just lose all your money. 1.00

01:29:11.000 We're seeing this across entertainment and every industry, whether it's movies, games, whatever.

01:29:16.000 The budgets have gone up to a point to where it's impossible to make the money back.

01:29:20.000 I mean, I've always said if somebody gave me $100 million, I would make $25 million video games instead of one $100 million video game because.

01:29:29.000 You know, it allows for smaller teams.

01:29:31.000 That's the thing that teams have gotten so big.

01:29:33.000 And, you know, the thing about CGI that I truly just cannot wrap my head around when it comes to movies and entertainment is I thought the idea of CGI was that it was supposed to be cheaper than practical effects.

01:29:45.000 But the budgets for all these movies just go up so high.

01:29:49.000 It's because the movies went cosmic in a lot of ways.

01:29:52.000 So superhero stories used to take place largely in it.

01:29:55.000 Like that was the joke, right?

01:29:56.000 They'd take a cosmic character and somehow find a reason for them to be.

01:30:00.000 On Earth, where they don't have to do that.

01:30:02.000 Now they actually do put them in space, which is one of the reasons they're complaining about lanterns.

01:30:07.000 It looks like the whole thing takes place on Earth.

01:30:09.000 We're like, why?

01:30:10.000 I want to see the lantern core out in outer space. 0.96

01:30:13.000 I mean, you're never going to do a Fantastic Four movie that makes sense.

01:30:17.000 It's just, it's four characters.

01:30:19.000 It's hard to make a hero's journey.

01:30:22.000 They're trying that with Franklin, I think.

01:30:25.000 Franklin.

01:30:26.000 No, Franklin Richards, the child of Reed and Sue Richards.

01:30:26.000 Turtle?

01:30:32.000 They're just regurgitating the MCU.

01:30:34.000 Apparently.

01:30:35.000 Doomsday is going to be Infinity War again.

01:30:38.000 It's supposed to be like basically the same story.

01:30:40.000 Trailer on July 25th.

01:30:42.000 25th.

01:30:43.000 I got to be going.

01:30:44.000 Well, they're doing that right so they can run it before Spider Man, right?

01:30:47.000 It's San Diego Comic Con.

01:30:48.000 Yeah, but I mean, they're releasing it and it'll probably run on Spider Man.

01:30:51.000 Because I'm probably actually going to go to the theater to see Spider Man.

01:30:54.000 Okay.

01:30:55.000 Spider Man's going to make a crap ton of money.

01:30:57.000 It looks good to me.

01:30:58.000 Oh, yeah.

01:30:58.000 I think apparently already pre sales are breaking records.

01:31:01.000 It's like $230 million domestic opening, supposedly.

01:31:05.000 In that range.

01:31:05.000 Wow.

01:31:06.000 It's Moana could wish.

01:31:08.000 Right. 0.98

01:31:08.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:31:09.000 Well, even The Odyssey would wish for that.

01:31:11.000 She was like a hundred to, I mean, conservatively, like last week, 80 to 100 million dollars. 0.98

01:31:16.000 Supergirl definitely wishes. 0.99

01:31:18.000 James Cunn is like, damn. 0.99

01:31:18.000 Yep. 0.99

01:31:20.000 Yeah, no, all you got to do is get some weird concept that's interesting.

01:31:24.000 Spend $100,000 making your weird concept movie.

01:31:26.000 Like a guy finds a, here's an idea for a movie.

01:31:31.000 A guy finds a painting of a black hole, just like literally a black hole, and it's like sealed with glass.

01:31:37.000 And he's a janitor or somebody.

01:31:38.000 He's like, oh, we got to move this.

01:31:39.000 Or he's like, you know, whatever.

01:31:40.000 He always in a museum.

01:31:41.000 And when he takes it out of the case to prepare to move, he places it down and spills his coffee, but the coffee falls in the hole.

01:31:46.000 Falls in the hole.

01:31:48.000 And then he reaches his hand and his hand goes through the hole.

01:31:51.000 And then he can put the hole on things.

01:31:53.000 There you go.

01:31:54.000 Portal.

01:31:55.000 Unfortunately, that gets turned into like a boring eight episode TV show now, and every episode's like an hour and a half long.

01:32:01.000 No, there was a post that I agree with.

01:32:03.000 It was like, if in the 90s they made a show called Surfing Dracula, every episode would be about some zany adventure where Dracula is surfing.

01:32:11.000 But now, with like Netflix, it's 10 episodes with some like circuitous backstory.

01:32:16.000 How he got the surfboard?

01:32:17.000 Yeah, and then finally at the end, he surfs for like two minutes.

01:32:20.000 Yeah.

01:32:20.000 I mean, that was the trope for a lot of the origin stories as well, right?

01:32:24.000 You always know in the first movie, you're not going to get the actual character until like the very end.

01:32:29.000 Well, that's why when they did the new Spider Man, they were like, no more origin stories.

01:32:32.000 I mean, I want them to know they need to get back to the origin stories because they've forgotten how to actually tell good stories and they're actually introducing a bunch of characters nobody cares about.

01:32:32.000 Yeah.

01:32:32.000 Like, we're done.

01:32:39.000 They're like, we're going to do a no, we've got a Marvel Nova movie in development.

01:32:44.000 Like, if you can't get X Men out first.

01:32:46.000 I don't know what you want me to tell you because normies aren't going to go see Nova.

01:32:50.000 You know, the issue with MCU is that every movie became Avengers.

01:32:57.000 Like, after a certain point, they're like, just everything's Avengers.

01:32:59.000 Now, like, Multiverse of Madness, they're like, yeah, it's Avengers.

01:33:01.000 I was like, Doctor Strange was an awesome movie.

01:33:03.000 I love that movie.

01:33:04.000 And then instead of doing a part two with the same characters, they did a part two.

01:33:08.000 Stop crossing everything over.

01:33:09.000 I don't need to see every actor in every movie.

01:33:11.000 Well, I mean, I understand what you're saying, but like, that was.

01:33:15.000 I think part of the reason why they're doing that is because when it came to, you know, team ups, like the Avengers.

01:33:20.000 Or, for team movies like the Avengers or X Men stuff, you did see a lot of crossover in the comic books.

01:33:25.000 You know, a lot like that's why they're, you know, they're doing Secret Wars after Doomsday, and that's that covered the entire, you know, the entire Marvel universe basically.

01:33:34.000 The same thing, same thing with like, you know, the Apocalypse Saga and all the stuff with Mr. Sinister over the X Men.

01:33:40.000 All that stuff was across all of the X Men books, and it was a big deal.

01:33:44.000 I mean, the Doomsday trailer, notwithstanding, maybe they release a really, really good trailer and it gets a lot of people on their side.

01:33:50.000 The fact that it's a winter release, I still think Spider Man's gonna make more money.

01:33:55.000 Well, if it does, it's going to be really, really bad.

01:33:58.000 I was just listening to something about the Doomsday movie, and they were saying that the Russo brothers thought that they had everything they needed when they were actually doing principal photography.

01:34:07.000 And then when they get into the editing house, they're like, oh boy, there's.

01:34:09.000 It's because they don't actually plan their movies ahead of time.

01:34:12.000 They were too much.

01:34:13.000 They were going to do Kang Dynasty, and then that got canceled.

01:34:17.000 So they were like, let's just hodgepodge a bunch of scenes together.

01:34:19.000 And apparently, they were writing the movie as they filmed it.

01:34:21.000 They've been doing that since phase two, basically.

01:34:24.000 That's a.

01:34:25.000 Huge problem.

01:34:25.000 Like, they made a big deal about it.

01:34:27.000 Like, when James Gunn's like, I like to have my script done before we begin shooting, they're like, How'd that work out?

01:34:33.000 Well, I mean, but it has worked out for him in the past.

01:34:36.000 Like, notwithstanding.

01:34:37.000 And Supergirl wasn't his movie.

01:34:38.000 Supergirl was written by somebody else.

01:34:40.000 Oh, yeah.

01:34:41.000 I mean, he had his own influence on it.

01:34:43.000 And there was a lot of stuff in the story about, you know, him being involved in the editing process and all that.

01:34:48.000 Did James Gunn do the most recent Superman?

01:34:49.000 Yes.

01:34:50.000 Okay.

01:34:50.000 Yeah.

01:34:51.000 Well, I assume that.

01:34:53.000 Which I liked, but was very.

01:34:56.000 It's the right word.

01:34:57.000 His Suicide Squad movie was better than his Superman movie.

01:34:57.000 Cluttered.

01:35:00.000 I thought that was.

01:35:01.000 The Suicide Squad was C.

01:35:03.000 I mean, the first Suicide Squad was miserably bad.

01:35:07.000 What's wrong with these people that can't make DC work?

01:35:09.000 I don't know.

01:35:10.000 I mean, listen, I thought that Man of Steel was good.

01:35:13.000 I thought that Dawn of Justice was the.

01:35:17.000 Yes.

01:35:18.000 Yeah, I thought that was good.

01:35:20.000 The Justice League movie left a little bit to be done.

01:35:22.000 I rewatched Shazam recently.

01:35:24.000 Shazam is everything that.

01:35:26.000 Phase four Marvel wanted to be as far as tone and hitting the family elements and all of the humor and the way that that movie was presented.

01:35:35.000 That was everything that they wanted, like Miss Marvel, to be when they got going in phase four.

01:35:40.000 If you guys haven't rewatched the 2019 Shazam movie, you should.

01:35:44.000 Zachary Levi, he's been on the show.

01:35:45.000 It's fantastic.

01:35:46.000 I love that movie.

01:35:47.000 Second one was kind of meh.

01:35:47.000 Yes.

01:35:48.000 Yeah.

01:35:48.000 But not horrible, but fine.

01:35:50.000 Yeah.

01:35:51.000 But the first one's legitimately good.

01:35:52.000 Oh, the best part was when I was rewatching it, I hadn't watched it since it came out.

01:35:56.000 I was like, this kid looks just like Adam Brody.

01:35:59.000 Oh, it's because Adam Brody plays the superhero version of Freddy at the end of the movie.

01:36:04.000 I was like, he's literally the most perfect casting I've ever seen in my entire life.

01:36:07.000 He looks just like young Adam Brody.

01:36:09.000 You know where the MCU lost me?

01:36:11.000 Blue Beetle.

01:36:14.000 Like, whenever they started introducing, I guess the larger point is whenever they started introducing the non mainstream characters, right?

01:36:22.000 Like, I just, as a normie, right, who goes and brings my kids to the theaters, right?

01:36:28.000 I care about Wolverine.

01:36:30.000 I care about, you know, like, go down the.

01:36:32.000 The who's who.

01:36:33.000 And then when you start throwing down your B and C tier characters, I'm like, you guys want to play a game?

01:36:40.000 I love this one.

01:36:40.000 Oh.

01:36:41.000 Name a black superhero whose name doesn't include the word black or have electricity powers.

01:36:47.000 I mean, I can do it because I'm a comic book guy, but it's funny because the average person can't do it.

01:36:52.000 Does Falcon have those powers?

01:36:55.000 So Falcon counts.

01:36:57.000 But some people try to argue that because he's got robotics.

01:36:59.000 I'm like, no, no, no, no.

01:37:00.000 Falcon counts.

01:37:01.000 He's just a guy with.

01:37:02.000 He's like, so it's because robotics have electricity in it.

01:37:05.000 That's just cheating.

01:37:06.000 Some people have tried claiming, but there's still robots.

01:37:08.000 No, Plus, you could say he's Captain America 2.

01:37:11.000 So there you go.

01:37:12.000 He's Captain America and Falcon, CIA champion.

01:37:12.000 Yeah.

01:37:14.000 It's funny because most of the known superheroes that are black are either black something, black lightning, or they have electricity powers. 0.79

01:37:22.000 Miles Morales, you know, he has electricity powers. 0.57

01:37:24.000 Yes.

01:37:24.000 Does he really?

01:37:25.000 He can electrocute you.

01:37:26.000 Why did they do that?

01:37:26.000 I did not.

01:37:27.000 Why does Spider Man have electricity powers?

01:37:29.000 Because there are spiders that can shock you.

01:37:31.000 Oh, okay. 1.00

01:37:32.000 So they were like, we're going to give the black kid some electricity powers for some reason. 1.00

01:37:35.000 It's like, all right. 1.00

01:37:37.000 Blade?

01:37:38.000 Yeah, blade counts.

01:37:39.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:37:39.000 That's a good one.

01:37:40.000 Wesley Snipes, man.

01:37:41.000 That's great.

01:37:42.000 Yeah.

01:37:43.000 Yeah, I can't think of any others.

01:37:45.000 What is the. 0.94

01:37:46.000 You know, it's not black Spider Man, but there's like a black Miles Morales. 0.82

01:37:50.000 Yeah, he's got electricity powers. 0.71

01:37:50.000 Okay. 0.71

01:37:51.000 Okay.

01:37:52.000 Yeah, it's hilarious.

01:37:54.000 People are saying static shock.

01:37:55.000 No, he's got electricity powers.

01:37:56.000 Come on.

01:37:56.000 Literally shock in the movie.

01:37:58.000 Spawn, Jon Stewart, the Green Lantern.

01:38:00.000 I started rewatching the Spawn animated series recently.

01:38:03.000 It's so messed up.

01:38:04.000 It's amazing.

01:38:05.000 Everybody should watch it.

01:38:07.000 Mr. Terrific.

01:38:08.000 What do you mean by so?

01:38:09.000 He's one of my favorite characters.

01:38:09.000 He's awesome.

01:38:10.000 I mean, it's dark noir, like in a way where it's not.

01:38:15.000 Hank Man.

01:38:17.000 Who's the hero, man?

01:38:17.000 Oh, man.

01:38:19.000 Who's the character that was just in the Superman movie?

01:38:22.000 Oh, that's Mr. Terrific.

01:38:24.000 Mr. Terrific, okay.

01:38:25.000 Mr. Terrific is awesome.

01:38:26.000 Edgar Theeber is awesome.

01:38:27.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, Mr. Terrific.

01:38:29.000 I'd never heard of him.

01:38:30.000 He's basically just Batman.

01:38:31.000 It's like there are 87 characters that are just basically Batman.

01:38:35.000 It's like he's a rich guy who built technology.

01:38:37.000 Well, I mean, that's their shortcut to explain why he's got all the technology and the free time to do what he's doing.

01:38:43.000 And the free time.

01:38:44.000 Because if he's got to go to a job, that's like half of what they have to sell Superman on, right?

01:38:49.000 Like, Superman's stories aren't always inherently interesting because he He's so OP that you can't do anything about him.

01:38:55.000 So you have to threaten Lois, and maybe he's going to get fired if he doesn't get his story done in time.

01:39:00.000 Same with Spider Man.

01:39:00.000 You know, he's got to go out and take photos of himself.

01:39:03.000 He's going to get fired if he doesn't get it done in time.

01:39:05.000 It's funny.

01:39:06.000 We, a long, long time ago, there's a show on YouTube called Death Battle, and it's a show where you have two pop culture icons and they score off and they end up fighting, right?

01:39:16.000 It was a show that started on a brand I started a long time ago, and it's still going almost 20 years later.

01:39:23.000 But the issue that the guys behind it always had was.

01:39:26.000 Superman was so strong that he literally couldn't lose.

01:39:30.000 Did they do the video about Deathstroke versus Deadpool?

01:39:30.000 He was boring.

01:39:33.000 I'm positive, yeah, yeah.

01:39:35.000 Oh, that's amazing.

01:39:35.000 I love that video.

01:39:36.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.67

01:39:36.000 Which basically was a clown. 0.67

01:39:38.000 Yeah.

01:39:39.000 That's why they did it, because they're like, basically, Deadpool ends up mogging him, and Deathstroke's still a better character.

01:39:44.000 Yeah, but Superman, I think they did Superman versus Goku three separate times, and every single time Superman would win.

01:39:52.000 Yeah, I mean, that's what?

01:39:53.000 Superman can't be Goku.

01:39:55.000 That's what makes it work, I guess, right?

01:39:57.000 He's invincible.

01:39:58.000 Like the word invincible has a meaning.

01:40:02.000 He cannot be hurt, you know?

01:40:04.000 So it's not a question of power level.

01:40:06.000 It's just like, no matter what you do, you can't hurt him, you know?

01:40:09.000 Let's just be real.

01:40:11.000 Goku can blow up planets, Superman can't do that. 0.95

01:40:14.000 That's silly.

01:40:16.000 I don't make the rules. 0.51

01:40:17.000 I wasn't a part of the show.

01:40:18.000 All I know is that they did it three times, and your explanation is why that show is so viral and successful because people go, no, Post a wrong answer and you'll get all the right responses.

01:40:36.000 It's funny because you look at these like back when Yahoo Answers used to be a thing or Quora, you'd have all these questions that never get answered.

01:40:43.000 But then all you got to do is post the question, log in, post the wrong answer, and then people, whoo!

01:40:48.000 Welcome to the internet, boys!

01:40:50.000 Yeah.

01:40:51.000 I mean, who in their right mind thinks Superman can beat Goku?

01:40:54.000 Ultra Instinct?

01:40:55.000 Is that a joke?

01:40:56.000 I don't even know.

01:40:56.000 Come on.

01:40:57.000 Bro, Vegeta blew up a planet when his power level was like 13,000.

01:41:00.000 Are you kidding?

01:41:02.000 His power level is like 78 billion at this point.

01:41:03.000 It's over 9,000.

01:41:04.000 Is that the thing you're saying?

01:41:05.000 That was a long time ago.

01:41:06.000 And actually, the original number was 7,000, but when it translated, They said 9,000.

01:41:10.000 Okay.

01:41:11.000 Everything you're saying is why the comment sections blow up in those videos and why there's.

01:41:15.000 Intentionally be wrong.

01:41:16.000 Make a video.

01:41:16.000 It's like, here's why Batman would lose to every supervillain ever.

01:41:20.000 Yeah.

01:41:20.000 And they'll be like, no!

01:41:23.000 Batman wins.

01:41:24.000 That's actually a really good idea.

01:41:25.000 Just make a change bait contest. 0.98

01:41:29.000 That does superheroes and the obvious loser wins.

01:41:32.000 They've made a very successful career out of it.

01:41:34.000 I'll tell you that much.

01:41:35.000 I actually had an idea of using AI to create.

01:41:40.000 Settle internet beefs online and do that.

01:41:42.000 Do the exact same thing.

01:41:43.000 You get your, you know, your Hassan Piker versus Kaya or whatever and have them fight. 0.57

01:41:48.000 He's a dog. 0.93

01:41:49.000 Right, right, right, right.

01:41:51.000 Just have them fight against each other, see who wins.

01:41:54.000 And Hassan basically, you know what he does? 0.69

01:41:57.000 When he powers up, he gets struck by lightning like Shazam or Raiden, and then it puts on his communist outfit, which is like the Gucci necklace and all the super nice clothes. 0.87

01:42:06.000 No, he's got the, he powers up with like the dog zapper that he's got. 0.85

01:42:10.000 He clicks the button and it shocks him, and then he's dressed like Raiden.

01:42:15.000 Culturally appropriated. 0.84

01:42:17.000 He was racist too.

01:42:17.000 Exactly.

01:42:18.000 You know?

01:42:19.000 Get it all in there.

01:42:21.000 Yeah, I don't know why people even say that Superman is unable to be defeated when, you know, he's in the.

01:42:31.000 He's beaten all the time.

01:42:32.000 Lex Luthor's a guy and he figures out how to beat him.

01:42:35.000 Not to mention, you got Metallo.

01:42:37.000 Only with.

01:42:37.000 Whose heart is kryptonite.

01:42:38.000 Come on.

01:42:40.000 His heart is.

01:42:40.000 Goku's whole thing is that he's too powerful and he always finds a way to power up.

01:42:46.000 And it's like at this point, he's transformed 73 times.

01:42:49.000 It's like none of it even makes sense anymore.

01:42:51.000 It's like he's got Ultra Instinct.

01:42:52.000 What is that?

01:42:53.000 He just knows how to fight perfectly.

01:42:55.000 Oh, okay.

01:42:56.000 Ultra Instinct.

01:42:57.000 That's what it's called, yeah.

01:42:58.000 Yeah.

01:42:58.000 So it's just the king of OP then.

01:43:01.000 I didn't never watch Dragon Ball Z or.

01:43:03.000 Yeah, Dragon Ball Super introduces Ultra Instinct.

01:43:06.000 So they're just like constantly finding ways to be like, be stronger now.

01:43:10.000 When Zachary Levi did the show Chuck, that's what happened when he had the Intersect put in his brain, where in the first iteration of the show, it just, all the government secrets were like, Put into his brain.

01:43:21.000 First of all, why would you ever do that?

01:43:22.000 Why would you ever put all the government secret in one thing in his brain?

01:43:25.000 It sounds insane.

01:43:26.000 Wasn't it like an accident?

01:43:27.000 Well, no, it was sent to him by somebody that he knew, and then he did it by accident, but it was actually supposed to be used, just not on him.

01:43:35.000 But then in the second iteration of The Intersect, it actually can download skills into your brain.

01:43:40.000 The show just never did anything with it. 0.98

01:43:42.000 It's just kung fu all the time.

01:43:44.000 It's like, that's just boring.

01:43:45.000 Because you want to actually see somebody learn kung fu.

01:43:48.000 It'd be cooler if it's like he has to learn bot.

01:43:50.000 At some point, because he's got to like develop a remedy for something.

01:43:53.000 And you could do cool montages here.

01:43:55.000 Even the MacGyver stuff, because like MacGyver was too heavy with it.

01:43:58.000 It's like every episode he figures out how to turn a toothpick into like a gun.

01:44:02.000 That's the best thing to do.

01:44:03.000 Yeah, I know, but like once or twice.

01:44:03.000 I love that.

01:44:05.000 You know what I mean?

01:44:06.000 And then they were like, just the original MacGyver, it's fine.

01:44:09.000 But the remake, it's like.

01:44:11.000 Oh, the remake.

01:44:12.000 I'm the lone apologist in the world for all of the horrible CBS remakes of the classic shows.

01:44:18.000 I love them.

01:44:18.000 Are you the reason Quantum Leap got a remake?

01:44:20.000 I didn't watch them.

01:44:21.000 I am, but I didn't watch it.

01:44:23.000 But yes.

01:44:24.000 I didn't even know there was a MacGyver remake.

01:44:26.000 Have you seen MacGruber?

01:44:28.000 Yes, the greatest version of MacGyver ever.

01:44:30.000 Yes.

01:44:31.000 Obviously. 1.00

01:44:32.000 Walking around with celery up his ass. 1.00

01:44:34.000 McGruber is the best. 1.00

01:44:34.000 Yes. 1.00

01:44:35.000 I'm looking for one.

01:44:36.000 All right, we're going to go to your Rumble rant.

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01:44:51.000 Hawk says, I'm a few days late, but reporting to the Timcast crew.

01:44:55.000 My wife had our first child this past weekend, seven weeks early, but baby is strong and healthy.

01:44:59.000 Let's go.

01:45:00.000 Congratulations.

01:45:01.000 Awesome.

01:45:02.000 Great to hear.

01:45:03.000 Grim Reefer says, Mahong Kregathy and Timcast crew, this rant goes to Xenosaga.

01:45:09.000 Anyway, here's Nashville.

01:45:10.000 That's good.

01:45:11.000 That's a wonderful deep cuts.

01:45:12.000 Thank you very much, Mahong, to you, normal man.

01:45:15.000 Tunafish says here in PA, you don't need an address to register to vote.

01:45:18.000 You literally can draw a map of an intersection.

01:45:21.000 My nine year old loves to watch with me.

01:45:23.000 She wants to know why you wear the same shirt every day.

01:45:26.000 I take it off, I put it on the chair, I leave.

01:45:27.000 I come back, I put it on, I do the show.

01:45:29.000 That's how it goes.

01:45:31.000 That's it.

01:45:31.000 It's cool in here because we keep the air conditioning quite low.

01:45:36.000 If the AC is turned off, all of the lights and everything overheat the room.

01:45:40.000 So it's just on all the time.

01:45:40.000 Yep.

01:45:42.000 And, you know, we keep it cool.

01:45:43.000 I will say this I am freezing right now.

01:45:46.000 You're sitting right on my bed.

01:45:47.000 Yeah, you're in the worst place.

01:45:48.000 You're in the worst place.

01:45:49.000 You're comfortable in the beginning of the show.

01:45:50.000 We got a couple of racist jokes that I can't read until the uncensored portion, but we will.

01:45:54.000 Uncensored it is.

01:45:55.000 All right.

01:45:56.000 Commies are not people says we need to go into these cities like Portland, Minneapolis, and do to those cities what they did to Fallujah and Hughes City.

01:46:04.000 Wow.

01:46:05.000 I completely disagree.

01:46:07.000 Very aggressive.

01:46:08.000 I would just like, you know, like Trump to send law enforcement to arrest criminals.

01:46:11.000 Yeah.

01:46:13.000 I got friends in Portland.

01:46:14.000 You know what I mean?

01:46:15.000 We don't need none of that.

01:46:16.000 We just need actual law enforcement. 0.85

01:46:19.000 Just let the police do police things.

01:46:21.000 We don't need the Marines to do marine things. 0.95

01:46:23.000 Chinese Communist Authority in the U.S. is not, this is from LG Bales, the immediate threat. 0.99

01:46:27.000 The immediate threat is the Islamic takeover of our government. 0.99

01:46:31.000 Is that a thing? 1.00

01:46:33.000 There are people that are making that argument.

01:46:36.000 Meaning in local jurisdictions.

01:46:37.000 So, you know, there are.

01:46:37.000 Yeah.

01:46:39.000 Minneapolis, Dearborn.

01:46:40.000 Dearborn.

01:46:41.000 There's some talk about.

01:46:43.000 Uh, people in Texas that are concerned, yeah, wasn't it like Indiana's building a bunch of mosques despite not having a Muslim population?

01:46:49.000 Same thing in Texas, Texas, yes, very much so. 0.91

01:46:52.000 I live outside of Dallas and it is very much a thing.

01:46:54.000 You go to Costco on a Sunday, my oh my, there's a scent of curry, and uh, that's not enough, it's not hyperbole at all.

01:47:03.000 I mean, I'm being dead serious when I say that.

01:47:05.000 Uh, there's a love, though, hey, me too, but it's so good, yeah, it's uh, listen, it is a if someone was to use the word invasion, I would.

01:47:16.000 Not disagree.

01:47:17.000 It has changed drastically in the last 10 to 15 years.

01:47:21.000 That's.

01:47:21.000 Lichen, Lichen, is that what it is?

01:47:23.000 I've seen Sword Art Online.

01:47:25.000 I'll pass on the reading and writing of my brain.

01:47:27.000 Do you guys know Sword Art Online?

01:47:29.000 No.

01:47:31.000 It's correct me if I'm wrong, but people are playing a video game where you can plug your brain in and then the coder of the game shuts off the exit so everyone gets trapped inside.

01:47:39.000 Oh.

01:47:40.000 And then you're stuck in some virtual reality or something.

01:47:42.000 And then he does bad things to you.

01:47:42.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:47:45.000 Yeah, that's why I'm not putting on the helmet there, Tim.

01:47:47.000 Yeah, that's a thing.

01:47:50.000 That's the risk.

01:47:50.000 Yeah.

01:47:51.000 You know?

01:47:53.000 Danger, Will Robinson.

01:47:54.000 Joey Giggle says there's a Black Mirror episode.

01:47:56.000 They use a sensor and put you in the game.

01:47:57.000 You can feel everything.

01:47:58.000 Long story short, two friends bang each other. 0.98

01:48:00.000 If incels get this, it'll be sex all the time with bros. 0.99

01:48:03.000 Oh, yeah. 0.98

01:48:04.000 Yeah, it's two college homies play, and then one guy chooses the female character and the guy chooses a dude character, and then they just start banging. 0.76

01:48:11.000 And then they try hooking up in real life, and they're like, no, it doesn't work. 0.77

01:48:14.000 Like, let's go back in the game.

01:48:14.000 I'm not gay.

01:48:16.000 Is it gay if your buddy is a VTuber avatar and you're banging in your crazy virtual world? 0.99

01:48:21.000 Yes, it's gay. 0.99

01:48:23.000 Yes. 0.99

01:48:23.000 Just. 0.99

01:48:24.000 This is actually settled internet-wide. 1.00

01:48:27.000 It's gay. 1.00

01:48:27.000 Oh, no, I agree. 1.00

01:48:28.000 And then it ends with like, he has an open marriage with his wife, and she takes her ring off and like bangs a random guy while he bangs his dude friend in a girl body.

01:48:36.000 It's a movie?

01:48:37.000 Yeah.

01:48:38.000 And then, like, yeah, it's Black Mirror.

01:48:40.000 And then in it, the dude is like, he's like, I've tried hooking up with tons of people, and he like banged a panda or something.

01:48:40.000 Oh.

01:48:47.000 It doesn't work.

01:48:48.000 I got to be with you, man.

01:48:50.000 He's like, but I'm a guy.

01:48:50.000 And he's like, but not in the game.

01:48:52.000 You know? 1.00

01:48:53.000 It's gay. 1.00

01:48:53.000 Very weird. 1.00

01:48:55.000 Indeed. 1.00

01:48:56.000 Literally, it's gay. 0.93

01:48:58.000 Mason says in 10 years, Democrats will be calling AI space voting. 0.70

01:49:02.000 Calling AI space voting polls a human right?

01:49:06.000 What was that?

01:49:07.000 In 10 years, Democrats will be calling AI space voting polls a human right.

01:49:14.000 Well, I mean, look, there are crazy people that are talking about that believe that AI are already sentient and they should have rights.

01:49:20.000 I think that is absolutely insane.

01:49:23.000 They are just machines still.

01:49:28.000 All right.

01:49:30.000 Forced Name Jane says I just want to say AI music is wonderful.

01:49:32.000 There are so many cover versions of songs I love, none in styles I didn't know I wanted until I heard them.

01:49:37.000 And they're all over YouTube.

01:49:37.000 It's crazy.

01:49:38.000 You can get like doo wop versions of Linkin Park.

01:49:41.000 Yeah, I mean, and those songs were written by people initially, though.

01:49:45.000 Like the genre of music that your song is in is like, that's like the spices or like, you know, but like the actual music itself, if the song is good, you can have an RB song or a country song.

01:50:00.000 In fact, that happens all the time.

01:50:01.000 RB artists and country artists will perform the same song because the song itself is good.

01:50:06.000 So you can just go ahead and add whichever flavor you like, which is, I mean, We have a gold record for doing a cover of The Thunder Rolls because the song's a good song.

01:50:14.000 Look at our last night.

01:50:15.000 The band, they made a whole career off of covering different songs that were pop in their middle.

01:50:21.000 When you think about when it comes to AI generation of songs, the idea that this is it.

01:50:27.000 Let's just say 2026 is the end of the input of new songs.

01:50:31.000 You can say the 80s had a distinct sound, the 90s had a distinct sound, whether it's 80s RB or rap had a distinct sound versus 90s.

01:50:40.000 So there's all these different genres and subgenres.

01:50:42.000 And let's just say, Hypothetically, if this is the direction we're going, it's all stopped.

01:50:47.000 So you have to, you know, there will be no growth or advancement at all in music at any point moving forward because it's just going to pull from everything from this point behind, you know.

01:50:58.000 All right.

01:50:59.000 Quantum Strange Quark says if ACB wasn't affected by the threats, then she wouldn't have even mentioned the story about a child commenting on the bulletproof vest.

01:51:05.000 Correct. 0.83

01:51:06.000 Yeah, she's compromised and she should resign.

01:51:10.000 It's not going to happen though because I think it's because people are just, it's ego. 1.00

01:51:14.000 She's a Supreme Court Justice. 0.99

01:51:15.000 She can't leave. 1.00

01:51:17.000 She'll equivocate and justify and compromise.

01:51:19.000 Well, to get to that level in your life, right?

01:51:21.000 You had to have been on the fast track your entire life.

01:51:24.000 People like that, they're the ones who had five year plans when they were starting college and then they had a 10 year plan.

01:51:30.000 Like, you don't get there by accident.

01:51:32.000 No.

01:51:33.000 No.

01:51:36.000 All right.

01:51:37.000 John Christen says Good suggestion as a friend of Phoenix Ammo, Green Beret sniper Gary Melton of Paramount Tactical.

01:51:43.000 He is also local to the studio area.

01:51:45.000 Oh, yeah.

01:51:46.000 Do you guys know who that is?

01:51:47.000 I don't know him, no.

01:51:51.000 All right, what do we have here?

01:51:52.000 Someone had a baby.

01:51:54.000 RJ McIntyre Jr. says, To keep with tradition, my wife and I just got home from the hospital with our new daughter.

01:52:00.000 Let's go.

01:52:01.000 Congratulations.

01:52:03.000 Here's an important one from Zimemaru.

01:52:06.000 In the upcoming DB Super arc, one of the most powerful beings in the universe breaks his hand, punching Goku's chest.

01:52:12.000 Back to the future.

01:52:13.000 Wait, wrong show.

01:52:14.000 Oh, sorry.

01:52:16.000 Yeah, that's a reference for our show.

01:52:17.000 We had a big battle for the.

01:52:19.000 It culminated today with the greatest movie franchise in history.

01:52:25.000 And it came down to, well, the final three were Lord of the Rings, Star Wars, and Back to the Future.

01:52:32.000 And Back to the Future beat Star Wars.

01:52:34.000 So the finals was Lord of the Rings versus Back to the Future.

01:52:36.000 Lord of the Rings blew it out and ended up winning, which set up a final showdown tomorrow of Lord of the Rings versus Airbud.

01:52:48.000 I'm going, my money's on Airbud.

01:52:50.000 I hope so.

01:52:50.000 Me too.

01:52:51.000 That'd be great.

01:52:52.000 Just for the comments, Reese Kane says ACB failed to know that when you're nominated for SCOTUS, you have to be ready to throw down with murderous intent.

01:53:04.000 Yikes.

01:53:04.000 Yeah.

01:53:05.000 I mean, look, I saw someone posting about this earlier the attitude that Justice Thomas had when he was in his hearings.

01:53:15.000 You know, Joe Biden and the Democrats were, you know, there was the whole alleged scandal and stuff.

01:53:23.000 And he was like, you know, I would rather die than withdraw.

01:53:26.000 You know, and to have that kind of intestinal fortitude, you know, you should have that kind of commitment if you're a Supreme Court justice.

01:53:35.000 And clearly, Amy Coney Barrett does not have that.

01:53:39.000 Indeed.

01:53:40.000 Joe the Chainsaw says, Hello, Timcast crew, and honorary Timcast tradition.

01:53:44.000 Me and my wife recently got home with our newborn baby.

01:53:46.000 Hey.

01:53:47.000 Please welcome our little boy, Joseph Jacob.

01:53:48.000 We're eating tonight.

01:53:49.000 Tim, thanks for saying hi to his grandpa in Fairbanks at Pike's Landing.

01:53:54.000 Congratulations.

01:53:54.000 Well, shout out.

01:53:55.000 We got so many babies today.

01:53:57.000 Yeah.

01:53:57.000 Good news, man.

01:53:58.000 So many babies.

01:53:58.000 Good news.

01:54:00.000 Who was your guest nine months ago?

01:54:02.000 Just curious because it's all lining up.

01:54:06.000 Yeah.

01:54:08.000 Let's see.

01:54:10.000 Kalador says Tim, you are wrong about CNN because the rest of the world pays attention to it.

01:54:13.000 That matters because if it is disrupted, then you disrupted the whole stranglehold.

01:54:17.000 That's CNN International, which is it.

01:54:19.000 You are right, but it is different from the CNN we watch here.

01:54:22.000 CNN International is a lot of like nature documentaries and stuff like that, you know.

01:54:28.000 Mr. Anderson says Brett looks thinner than I remember.

01:54:30.000 I have nothing more to add to the discussion.

01:54:32.000 Thank you.

01:54:33.000 I think bread is thin.

01:54:35.000 That's a good compliment, man.

01:54:36.000 Looking great.

01:54:37.000 Said it before the show.

01:54:38.000 Especially considering the fact you gave up sugar for it, or most sugar.

01:54:41.000 Can you do like 20 push ups for us right now just because?

01:54:44.000 I could.

01:54:45.000 I know you could.

01:54:46.000 Yeah, I'm right.

01:54:47.000 Losing weight doesn't mean that you've worked on your upper body.

01:54:49.000 That's true.

01:54:49.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:54:50.000 He's got less.

01:54:51.000 He looks like he's worked on his upper body.

01:54:53.000 He's a good looking guy.

01:54:55.000 All right.

01:54:56.000 Paul Diver says We've all heard the dead internet theory.

01:54:58.000 What about the zombie AI where it all cannibalizes by absorbing derivative data of each other?

01:55:04.000 Yeah, that's a thing, if I understand correctly.

01:55:08.000 They're concerned about AI actually becoming like Xerox.

01:55:13.000 The more copies, the more it references things that are errors from AI, the more errors that it will produce.

01:55:20.000 That was one of the theories given.

01:55:21.000 So, one of my favorite shows of all time is Person of Interest, which is about dueling AIs in the later two seasons.

01:55:28.000 And I always thought, I guess, mild spoiler alert, about the way that they deal with it at the end involves a computer virus.

01:55:34.000 And I said, I felt like that was the last season was rushed.

01:55:38.000 It felt like there could have been a more elegant way of doing things to finish the show.

01:55:43.000 And so I asked AI, How would you solve this problem of the two warring AIs?

01:55:48.000 And that's actually one of the solutions that it gave us.

01:55:50.000 Like, it can't be a computer virus, it has to be something else.

01:55:53.000 That's actually one of the suggestions that the AI gave me on how to stop an AI.

01:55:59.000 Just errors.

01:56:00.000 Yeah.

01:56:02.000 All right.

01:56:04.000 Oh, another baby.

01:56:05.000 Tony Mahalo says, Please help me welcome our fourth child to the world.

01:56:08.000 Born 7 6 for 1776, of course.

01:56:11.000 Appreciate you all and the hard work.

01:56:13.000 Relocating to Winchester and hoping to check out the new coffee shop.

01:56:16.000 Congratulations, babies.

01:56:16.000 God bless.

01:56:18.000 Congratulations.

01:56:18.000 Go.

01:56:19.000 At least for days.

01:56:20.000 Congratulations.

01:56:22.000 All right.

01:56:23.000 All right.

01:56:24.000 What do we have here?

01:56:25.000 Dragon Ball Super.

01:56:29.000 What does it say?

01:56:30.000 Daw Underdog?

01:56:31.000 Underdog?

01:56:33.000 Goku stopped Vegeta's planetary blast pre Super Saiyan 1.

01:56:37.000 Goku from Dragon Ball is waxing Superman.

01:56:42.000 Yeah.

01:56:44.000 So, for those that don't know, no, I don't know.

01:56:46.000 Goku from Dragon Ball probably wouldn't beat Superman.

01:56:50.000 But in the beginning of DBZ, when they introduce Vegeta, so first it's, what is it?

01:56:56.000 Is it Radic?

01:56:57.000 What's his name?

01:56:58.000 I don't know.

01:56:59.000 And it's been 30 years, man. 0.91

01:57:01.000 So Vegeta is shown, Vegeta and Nappa are shown coming to Earth, and to show you the scale of their power, he points his finger and blows a planet up, and they're like, oh, this is the biggest threat Goku's ever faced. 0.81

01:57:13.000 And then when he's fighting, Vegeta's like, I'll just blow up your whole planet, and then fires an energy blast, and then Goku stops it. 0.83

01:57:19.000 Superman can't get anywhere close to that.

01:57:21.000 Batman will figure it out.

01:57:23.000 I just rewatched Justice League Doom.

01:57:24.000 It's the one where Vandal Savage gets his hands on a list of all the ways to defeat the Justice League members that Batman keeps.

01:57:31.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:57:32.000 And then they're like, why did you have these in Batman's life? 0.98

01:57:34.000 It's like, are you insane? 0.90

01:57:35.000 Like, of course I like. 0.95

01:57:36.000 And then the best part is at the end of it, he won't apologize.

01:57:38.000 They're like, they're all like butt hurt.

01:57:41.000 They're like, why would you do that?

01:57:42.000 He's like, you guys are like, you could destroy the planet. 1.00

01:57:45.000 Are you insane? 1.00

01:57:46.000 Like, I'm not apologizing for that. 1.00

01:57:47.000 Yeah.

01:57:49.000 Yep.

01:57:50.000 All right.

01:57:51.000 What do we got here?

01:57:53.000 What is this?

01:57:55.000 Richard Slammer says, Craig, I am begging you to hook up Timcast crew with Kirsch.

01:58:00.000 Kirsch.

01:58:01.000 Kirsch.

01:58:02.000 She's a VTuber, super based.

01:58:04.000 If you ever want to know anything about Bridge, she.

01:58:07.000 Bridge.

01:58:07.000 Yes.

01:58:09.000 DEI exponentially worse.

01:58:11.000 It's what DEI has been rebranded to.

01:58:13.000 Oh, really?

01:58:14.000 That's how all the corporations got out of DEI requirements.

01:58:17.000 They shifted it to Bridge.

01:58:18.000 Yes.

01:58:19.000 Kirsch is a.

01:58:21.000 She cannot be in the studio with you, unfortunately.

01:58:24.000 But she is spectacular.

01:58:25.000 An AI. 1.00

01:58:27.000 She's a VTuber.

01:58:28.000 She's a based VTuber.

01:58:29.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:58:30.000 She's great.

01:58:31.000 So, what does that mean?

01:58:32.000 It's like a person that uses a fake.

01:58:34.000 Uses an avatar.

01:58:35.000 Yeah, using an avatar that she just streams with.

01:58:39.000 There was a period where the top 10 super chatted shows were all VTubers except for us.

01:58:44.000 We were like number six right in the middle for some reason.

01:58:47.000 And then I found out because someone posted all of the top super chatted shows are anime waifus except for Tim Castirel.

01:58:53.000 And I was like, what?

01:58:53.000 It was like a non political thing that was pointing it out.

01:58:56.000 And I was like, wow.

01:58:57.000 That's weird. 0.79

01:58:58.000 Yeah, she's it's true.

01:59:00.000 VTuber fans are spectacular.

01:59:02.000 Uh, they are very faithful.

01:59:04.000 Kirsha is, uh, probably a leading voice when it comes to the pushback on DEI, bridge, all that stuff.

01:59:10.000 She has a so if I just stopped doing my morning show and then just use like a filter to be some like big tittied anime waifu, I'd probably get way more views.

01:59:17.000 You would make so much money. 1.00

01:59:19.000 It'd be like she's so hot. 0.99

01:59:19.000 It's crazy. 0.99

01:59:21.000 I follow Kirsha, she follows me too.

01:59:23.000 Kirsha's great.

01:59:24.000 Let me know.

01:59:25.000 Have you guys ever seen Surrogates?

01:59:27.000 No, you haven't seen Surrogates?

01:59:29.000 I feel like a Bruce Willis.

01:59:31.000 And it's like in the future, everybody stays at home and they go into a pod that allows them to remote control a robot body.

01:59:39.000 You ever seen it?

01:59:40.000 No.

01:59:41.000 So there's like a guy and a woman are making out outside of a bar.

01:59:44.000 Someone pulls up on a motorcycle and blasts them with this crazy device which fries the robot's brains.

01:59:50.000 And so the police are like, that's vandalism.

01:59:52.000 Someone destroyed a couple of surrogates because the point of surrogates is to keep you safe. 0.99

01:59:54.000 So they're like, it's this blonde woman. 0.99

01:59:56.000 We're going to go to her house.

01:59:57.000 And they go to her house, but it's actually like a 400 pound morbidly obese man.

02:00:00.000 Right.

02:00:03.000 Yeah.

02:00:03.000 That's the future.

02:00:04.000 You know, the funny thing is, though, in like VR, it's not going to be that.

02:00:08.000 It's not going to be that. 0.99

02:00:09.000 It's not going to be a 400 pound man who's a young blonde woman. 0.98

02:00:13.000 It's going to be a carrot. 0.97

02:00:13.000 You're in the VR. 0.97

02:00:15.000 A what?

02:00:15.000 A carrot.

02:00:16.000 There is going to be a carrot with gigantic knockers walking around with big googly eyes and gigantic knockers, and you're going to be like, hey, and it's going to, you know, make sexy voice, but it's actually going to be like a 400 pound guy.

02:00:30.000 What is the ultimate attribute that will be added to all AI men pretending to be women online to make money? 0.63

02:00:36.000 Is it boobs? 0.99

02:00:37.000 Is it butt? 0.99

02:00:39.000 Well, the best part is like OnlyFans is over. 0.77

02:00:39.000 I mean, what? 0.77

02:00:42.000 Oh, yeah. 1.00

02:00:43.000 These young women are going to be like, I'm going to do porn. 1.00

02:00:44.000 It's like, yeah, nice try, dude. 1.00

02:00:46.000 It's just going to be dudes using AI.

02:00:46.000 Yeah.

02:00:49.000 Like sexting dudes. 1.00

02:00:50.000 The amount of Indian dudes who have made a killing on making AI versions of OnlyFans is insane. 1.00

02:00:57.000 It's crazy. 1.00

02:00:58.000 Yeah.

02:00:59.000 By the way, to answer your question, answer my question about who was on the show nine months ago, it was Jack Posobic.

02:01:05.000 So that's why so many babies are being born.

02:01:09.000 Nine months to the death.

02:01:11.000 He would actually be proud of that, helping to, you know, helping. 0.99

02:01:15.000 Said, I want you to go to your wife right now and I want you to impregnate her. 0.94

02:01:19.000 Abe was right. 0.96

02:01:20.000 And then nine months later, There was just a ton of babies.

02:01:23.000 Four babies.

02:01:23.000 Let's go.

02:01:24.000 Too many.

02:01:25.000 So many babies. 1.00

02:01:26.000 More Americans. 0.99

02:01:27.000 You know what I think? 0.78

02:01:28.000 I think the entire economy is predicated upon having kids.

02:01:30.000 And I think that's like an obvious statement.

02:01:31.000 But what I mean is, dudes go to work because they have to.

02:01:35.000 And if they don't have to, they don't go to work.

02:01:37.000 So when you have luxury combined with no kids, the dudes are like, I'm just going to play GTA.

02:01:41.000 I don't care.

02:01:42.000 So there's no reason to go out and do things.

02:01:44.000 So what happens is, you have dudes who normally would be like, I have to get the food, I have to buy the toys.

02:01:49.000 And so the economy kept churning because everybody had to work.

02:01:52.000 Now dudes are just like, eh.

02:01:54.000 Just got to sit at home.

02:01:55.000 Make just enough to get by.

02:01:56.000 Yeah.

02:01:57.000 And so economics, there's a massive downswing because nobody has to work.

02:02:02.000 They just got to get the bare minimum or they just live with their parents.

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02:04:28.000 And something about no tax credits for...

02:04:30.000 Oh.

02:04:31.000 Yeah.

02:04:32.000 Well, so there's like 12 separate states trying to block what is going on between Paramount and Warner Brothers right now.

02:04:38.000 They're $111 billion merger.

02:04:41.000 And one of the things that David Ellison has been doing quietly behind the scenes is working with exploratory committees trying to get more.

02:04:49.000 They want federal tax credits for the entertainment industry.

02:04:51.000 And I just think that that's a really bad idea.

02:04:53.000 I think for the most part, the reason why Californians push for that type of stuff is because it benefits their local economy.

02:04:59.000 Yeah.

02:05:00.000 There isn't a reason for somebody in, you know, Wisconsin to be paying for tax credits that don't benefit him or his local economy at all.

02:05:08.000 I mean, anytime there's government money that could be sucked up by any industry, they're going to put as much effort in to get that money as they can, which is why you shouldn't be getting subsidies for basically anything.

02:05:20.000 I didn't like Trump proposed that at one point, too. 0.95

02:05:23.000 And I was like, are you insane? 0.99

02:05:24.000 First of all, these people hate you. 0.99

02:05:25.000 I don't know you'd want to give them any help whatsoever, but I get the point.

02:05:29.000 He probably wanted to because he thought it would grease the wheels with them. 0.67

02:05:32.000 Fewer people that were giving him crap because he's that Melania documentary made. 0.67

02:05:35.000 Yeah, you know, he hates to have people criticizing him. 0.62

02:05:38.000 We have a rant from Jitter who said, Younger gens will look at AI celebrities like real ones.

02:05:43.000 Bands like ours will still exist, grandfathered in with the fan base.

02:05:46.000 But just like my friends' kids, they'll go see gaming streamers live.

02:05:50.000 I 1000% gaming streamers live.

02:05:53.000 Watch them play games live.

02:05:53.000 Yeah.

02:05:55.000 Still a person, though.

02:05:56.000 So we're doing an event.

02:05:59.000 We actually haven't announced it yet, but we're doing an event in September.

02:06:02.000 And It's going to be our.

02:06:05.000 I kind of referenced this earlier.

02:06:07.000 We, one of the biggest struggles we've had with doing these events is the overall cost of them, specifically security.

02:06:15.000 But there are a lot of folks who, you know, they want to come out and they meet you and meet you.

02:06:21.000 This is something for us.

02:06:22.000 We just want to give people who, we talked about this on our show today, this idea that there's so many people that feel outnumbered when you see the doom and gloom online and all this stuff happening that you just have to give them.

02:06:34.000 The opportunity to connect and meet in real time.

02:06:38.000 And whether it's a gaming YouTuber playing games in person or just going out and shaking hands and saying hello, that's huge.

02:06:48.000 Just providing the opportunity to do that.

02:06:51.000 But you look at the quote unquote influencer is the new celebrity.

02:06:58.000 And you see, look at Streamer University with Kai, Kai Sinet, and his whole thing, right?

02:07:05.000 Five cities for tryouts or whatever it was.

02:07:08.000 And there's tens of thousands of people that are trying to get into this thing, hundreds of thousands of people, because he has a reach that is on par with your Sabrina Carpenter or whoever.

02:07:20.000 And to this person's point, Jitterroot, I do think that there will be people that there'll be old bands that are grandfathered in, but the younger generation will absolutely gravitate to this AI.

02:07:37.000 Version of whether it's Tim as a carrot with big boobs or me or whoever.

02:07:46.000 Have you ever used an Oculus?

02:07:49.000 I'm not joking when I say this because it exists.

02:07:49.000 Yeah.

02:07:51.000 They have the VR chat rooms and there's voice by proximity.

02:07:55.000 So if you're far away and you talk into the mic, they can only hear at a low volume because it's meant to simulate being close.

02:08:00.000 You walk up to them, you can talk.

02:08:02.000 There's literally carrots walking around.

02:08:03.000 Oh, yeah.

02:08:03.000 There's a dude who's like, I just want to be a carrot.

02:08:06.000 Look, man.

02:08:07.000 Identify as a carrot.

02:08:08.000 So weird.

02:08:09.000 VR chat is an interesting beast, man.

02:08:12.000 Have you guys ever actually done VR chat before?

02:08:15.000 No.

02:08:16.000 I'm 51.

02:08:17.000 Well, let me just say this.

02:08:19.000 If you want to live on the other side of the internet, you hop onto VR chat and do it with a headset on. 0.98

02:08:25.000 The amount of dudes pretending to be girls, you know, then they'll walk up to you with their giant, big, fake boobies and be like, What's up, dog? 0.78

02:08:33.000 You know, it's pretty amazing. 0.50

02:08:36.000 Have you seen the video of those two?

02:08:38.000 I don't know if they're really trans, but it's guys dressed like women.

02:08:42.000 And then it's like they're both on like some chat.

02:08:47.000 And then one of them says, Well, you're a dude.

02:08:50.000 And then the other guy's like, oh my God, we're both guys.

02:08:53.000 But then he's like, do your girl voice.

02:08:54.000 And he's like, I can't.

02:08:55.000 And they have like deep voices.

02:08:56.000 Oh, I have seen that one.

02:08:56.000 And then the one.

02:08:58.000 Super viral.

02:08:58.000 Yeah.

02:09:00.000 Like, oh, I knew immediately.

02:09:03.000 You're a guy.

02:09:04.000 You're a guy.

02:09:08.000 That's the future, man.

02:09:10.000 We'll see.

02:09:12.000 We'll see.

02:09:13.000 I don't disagree about that there will be changes like that.

02:09:20.000 But I do think that the.

02:09:22.000 The connection to people is still something that, you know, to Brett's point about the parasocial kind of relationships, I still think that that is something that people are going to desire.

02:09:35.000 You know what I mean?

02:09:36.000 I agree.

02:09:36.000 But have you, you know, there's the phrase, you never want to meet your heroes, right?

02:09:40.000 It's because there's always, when you go up and you meet somebody, you're oftentimes, well, I see so many people are disappointed by it.

02:09:47.000 But what if that phrase was thrown out the window?

02:09:47.000 Yeah.

02:09:51.000 Because.

02:09:53.000 The meeting was exactly what you expected because it was catered to you and your personality prior with AI.

02:09:59.000 You know what I'm saying?

02:10:00.000 I mean, I'm telling you, conservatives are going to jump in this thing, not the same degree that liberals will, but I can give you one very easy scenario where a conservative guy puts on the headband.

02:10:09.000 They lose their kid.

02:10:11.000 What, say it one more time?

02:10:12.000 They lose their kid.

02:10:13.000 Oh, sure.

02:10:14.000 And they're going to be like, we can take all of the photos and videos that you shot of your child and we can create a digital version.

02:10:21.000 And publicly, these people will be like, oh, I could never do it.

02:10:23.000 They'll do it.

02:10:24.000 No, and they're already doing that with, uh, with, Dead grandparents.

02:10:29.000 This is a thing that's happening.

02:10:31.000 They've done it on Facebook for years where they take your whole profile and then create a chat bot based on everything ever posted.

02:10:37.000 Well, even more than a chat bot, they have taken pictures and turned it into holographic things that you can interact with.

02:10:43.000 This is probably three, four, five months ago.

02:10:45.000 We did a story where it's a new service. 0.95

02:10:49.000 Think about how dark this is.

02:10:51.000 The idea of a subscription service tied to nanny or nana or whoever or your grandma, right?

02:10:58.000 She will survive as long as you continue to pay the subscription.

02:11:01.000 And by the way, And they'll put the program into a custom built humanoid body.

02:11:08.000 Well, they'll get there, yes.

02:11:10.000 But right now, the service, and this is a real service, a service that.

02:11:16.000 God, I need to find this video because it's really dark.

02:11:20.000 It's very black mirror because it starts.

02:11:24.000 I was out of town when we covered it on art.

02:11:26.000 They ended up covering it while I was gone.

02:11:28.000 Right.

02:11:29.000 But the whole selling point of it is that.

02:11:32.000 You have a grandma who they know is going to pass, right?

02:11:38.000 And there's a baby on the way, but they want the grandma to have the relationship with the baby.

02:11:43.000 So the baby is born and it shows the baby at two years old, three years old, talking to grandma.

02:11:50.000 Grandma's dead, right?

02:11:51.000 But talking to the AI.

02:11:52.000 And then the baby is now 10 years old.

02:11:55.000 Grandma, guess what I did at school today?

02:11:57.000 I got an A on my thing.

02:11:58.000 Oh, that's great, honey.

02:11:59.000 Grandma's still dead, right?

02:12:01.000 But grandma's collecting all this data about all the things.

02:12:04.000 And next time grandma's 15, she goes, Hey, did you enjoy your date with Timmy?

02:12:08.000 You know, and ultimately, the end of this.

02:12:12.000 They reveal at the end that grandma's dead.

02:12:14.000 What's that?

02:12:15.000 At the end of the ad, they reveal.

02:12:16.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:12:17.000 Because at the end of it, the kid is now 75 years old talking to grandma still.

02:12:21.000 Grandma still looks the same.

02:12:22.000 The kid is now 75, and she's the next one being hooked into the Matrix.

02:12:26.000 Directed by M. Night Shyamalan.

02:12:27.000 Creepy.

02:12:28.000 Yeah, it is creepy.

02:12:31.000 I don't know if it's real or not.

02:12:32.000 I don't know if it's active now, but I did see the ad for it.

02:12:35.000 Don't date robots.

02:12:37.000 People are going to date robots, bro.

02:12:37.000 Yeah.

02:12:40.000 They're going to be as soon as they're self cleaning. 0.51

02:12:45.000 You know, maybe they just don't clean them.

02:12:46.000 Certain guys, you know what I mean?

02:12:48.000 The early prediction numbers are in for the Odyssey, $85 to $100 million opening domestically.

02:12:55.000 What's the budget?

02:12:55.000 That's it.

02:12:57.000 A lot.

02:12:57.000 I think it was $500.

02:12:59.000 Once you count in marketing and stuff like that, at least.

02:13:02.000 Yeah.

02:13:02.000 I think it'll do, I think Odyssey will do fine.

02:13:05.000 I don't think it's going to be this killer billion dollar blockbuster.

02:13:09.000 But I think it's going to, everything that I've seen about people who have seen it says it's a fine movie.

02:13:17.000 It's nothing that's going to be earth shattering.

02:13:19.000 The casting that people have talked about.

02:13:21.000 The video is going to suck because it's a Christopher Nolan movie, so the audio is going to be bad.

02:13:26.000 Well, so Film Threat saw it, and they said it's easily the most pretentious of all the Christopher Nolan movies, right?

02:13:34.000 I generally like Nolan's work, so I'm fairly excited because I refuse to drag on.

02:13:39.000 Oh, you're going to go excitedly see it?

02:13:40.000 Yeah.

02:13:41.000 I mean, as excited as I can be for a movie that's like three hours long.

02:13:44.000 Bro, I still haven't seen Fire and Ash.

02:13:46.000 What's Fire and Ash?

02:13:48.000 I didn't go watch that one either.

02:13:50.000 Yeah.

02:13:50.000 Did anybody?

02:13:51.000 No, yes, it made over a billion dollars.

02:13:53.000 What?

02:13:54.000 I don't believe that at all.

02:13:56.000 I mean, that makes that he makes all his money for those movies outside of the U.S. Right, right, right.

02:14:01.000 It's Avatar.

02:14:01.000 Those are very, very popular outside of the U.S.

02:14:04.000 But it's diminishing returns compared to the first one when you include inflation and compared to the second one.

02:14:11.000 You talk about the movies that have made the most amount of money with the least amount of cultural impact.

02:14:16.000 It is 100% the Avatar series.

02:14:19.000 Oh, yeah, it's fake.

02:14:20.000 There's no way I believe that. 1.00

02:14:22.000 Those movies are stupid. 1.00

02:14:23.000 It's just like that's the consequence you have for a movie franchise that's popular. 1.00

02:14:23.000 It's not fake. 1.00

02:14:28.000 Outside of the US, also, it is one of those things where when I say that, I'm like, I've never met anybody who cares about Avatar on the show.

02:14:35.000 I get a million comments that are like, You, I care about Avatar, and I'm like, Really? 1.00

02:14:39.000 Yeah, they're all bots from India. 1.00

02:14:41.000 No, well, I guess it's because they want to be aliens with dangly heads that can stick stick onto other animals. 1.00

02:14:45.000 They're so weird.

02:14:46.000 I mean, I think the question I always ask, and I was scrolling through on the way here on the plane, they had Avatar, Avatar, whatever, and I had no idea what the subtitles were.

02:14:56.000 And I think if you ask 100 people on the street what the three Avatar movies were called, they would go, Avatar.

02:15:01.000 One, two, and three.

02:15:02.000 Way of Water.

02:15:03.000 I like the first one.

02:15:04.000 Yeah.

02:15:05.000 I mean, people have no idea.

02:15:07.000 The only movies now that I believe have a guaranteed formula, assuming that they don't mess with it, is sports movies.

02:15:14.000 Anything sports movies ends up working because it's a universal theme that everybody can understand.

02:15:19.000 Group of people come together, overcome adversity, and rise to the occasion, assuming they tell a traditional story, and end up winning.

02:15:27.000 And it's about cooperative and collective.

02:15:29.000 Until they make a movie about the WNBA.

02:15:32.000 Oh, dude. 1.00

02:15:33.000 You see Kamala Harris talking about the WNBA. 0.95

02:15:35.000 Oh, God. 1.00

02:15:36.000 It's word salad bullshit. 1.00

02:15:37.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:15:38.000 My God.

02:15:39.000 She can turn, like, the least impactful statement into the longest, least impactful statement. 1.00

02:15:45.000 See, if we had the vlog still, we could all go to a WNBA game and film it.

02:15:50.000 That'd be amazing.

02:15:51.000 Well, we're setting it back up with the travel stuff that we're planning, you know.

02:15:56.000 The WNBA game.

02:15:57.000 God.

02:15:58.000 The WNBA thing is so fascinating.

02:15:59.000 I've never seen, and I know this is not a hot take by any means, but I've never seen a league so interested in failing before. 1.00

02:16:07.000 It's women, bro. 1.00

02:16:09.000 It's because they care more about the interpersonal drama than scoring points. 1.00

02:16:12.000 It is.

02:16:13.000 I am 100%.

02:16:15.000 I'll say this, man.

02:16:16.000 So, I was an athlete back in the day.

02:16:18.000 I played this.

02:16:19.000 You guys don't remember this thing.

02:16:20.000 It was on Spike TV called Slamball, right?

02:16:22.000 It was basketball, trampolines in the court.

02:16:25.000 So, I did that on TV back in Spike.

02:16:25.000 Oh, yeah.

02:16:28.000 And I went out to LA.

02:16:30.000 And when we were filming that, all of my teammates, like I was the white guy.

02:16:36.000 I was the white guy on my team.

02:16:38.000 And I have never been racist at all.

02:16:43.000 And I got my buddy, who was a teammate, who was.

02:16:47.000 When I say he was from the hood, like he was from Compton.

02:16:49.000 He's like, dude, come hang out with me, stay the night at my house, whatever, cool.

02:16:53.000 So we stay the night at his house.

02:16:54.000 There's legitimately a drive by.

02:16:57.000 And then the next morning he goes, hello, we're going to go play down to the park or play down to the center. 0.98

02:17:02.000 So we got out of the hood and I promptly got the shit kicked out of me for three hours by these guys from the hood. 0.98

02:17:10.000 And I was every single slur that you can think about from that perspective. 0.96

02:17:15.000 With all that said, tying this back into WNBA.

02:17:19.000 Everything going on with Clark, 100% racially motivated.

02:17:23.000 I 100% believe that. 0.99

02:17:25.000 When you see the reactions to how she gets the shit kicked out of her, the inability for them to push the golden goose out of spite and ego, as you said, it is crazy to see. 0.98

02:17:39.000 And the fact that nobody will call it out from a mainstream perspective, or at least have that conversation. 0.98

02:17:45.000 No, they just deny it.

02:17:46.000 And they say, what are you talking about?

02:17:46.000 This is totally normal.

02:17:47.000 The liberals are like, this happens to everybody.

02:17:49.000 Right, right, right.

02:17:49.000 Yeah.

02:17:50.000 Nah, it's amazing to watch.

02:17:52.000 All right, we're gonna grab them collars and we're gonna start with uh Danny Delete.

02:17:56.000 Is that what that says?

02:17:57.000 Oh, nice, yeah, hey, what up, Danny Delito?

02:18:02.000 Oh, there you go, Danny Delito.

02:18:03.000 Thank you.

02:18:04.000 What's up, dude?

02:18:05.000 Other than Craig, sometimes gets it right on the show, sometimes never.

02:18:08.000 It's okay.

02:18:11.000 Uh, so, uh, my question here, um, as someone who watches both side scrollers but also uh 10 PS, a couple months ago, uh, Craig actually did stand up for his daughter at a basketball game.

02:18:23.000 When they were trying to have a young man or young boy play on the women's team or the girls' team, even though other people would not stand up, they did quietly say they would stand up with him.

02:18:36.000 What would Craig have as advice for other fathers or young or just new fathers about how to stand up for your children, even when others try to make you stand up for their kids instead?

02:18:49.000 Yeah, man, that's so quick background.

02:18:51.000 My daughter was playing in a volleyball tournament.

02:18:54.000 We had an instance where.

02:18:57.000 A boy was playing on it, it was an all girls volleyball tournament.

02:18:59.000 And I was the only dad who was like, My daughter's not playing.

02:19:04.000 And so we pulled her.

02:19:05.000 She got ridiculed by her teammates.

02:19:08.000 And it was one of those things where it's like, It shouldn't be that way.

02:19:11.000 And I don't blame the boy either because there are rules in place.

02:19:14.000 It's not like he thought he was a girl.

02:19:15.000 It was just exactly just a boy.

02:19:17.000 Yeah, he just wanted to play volleyball.

02:19:19.000 But there were no boys' teams.

02:19:20.000 Right.

02:19:21.000 And the rules are that if there was a boys' team within 30 miles, which there are, then he could.

02:19:28.000 Then he would be able to do it.

02:19:29.000 But regardless, I said, My daughter's not playing.

02:19:33.000 And I had several other parents come up to me and say, Man, I really, I wish we would have done that.

02:19:39.000 Actually, a mom said, If my husband was here, we would have pulled my daughter.

02:19:43.000 You're right.

02:19:44.000 My reaction exactly.

02:19:46.000 And I actually got.

02:19:47.000 I rolled my eyes for those who couldn't see.

02:19:49.000 Yes. 1.00

02:19:50.000 It was infuriating to me.

02:19:53.000 Back to what Danny was asking about how any advice I would give to parents in that situation.

02:20:01.000 You got to act and you got to set an example for your kids.

02:20:05.000 They're not going to like it.

02:20:06.000 And you know what?

02:20:06.000 The parents aren't going to like you.

02:20:08.000 And you just got to say fuck it because your thought process and your morals on this are something that's going to. 1.00

02:20:16.000 My daughter will thank me eventually because of that. 1.00

02:20:20.000 And, you know, it just comes down to you have to set an example.

02:20:23.000 If you don't, who will?

02:20:25.000 You know, and you have to lead in that situation because even if it's not the little boy's fault, rules are rules.

02:20:33.000 And it was a girls' tournament with a boy playing in it.

02:20:37.000 And I'll tell you what, you know who didn't like having that conversation?

02:20:40.000 Was the people running the tournament because they got flustered and we went straight to them.

02:20:44.000 And, you know, how can you have this?

02:20:46.000 And, you know, and inclusion and the rules are rules.

02:20:48.000 And it was frustrating to say the least. 1.00

02:20:52.000 So, my advice is, and this is going to sound really shitty, don't be a fucking coward. 1.00

02:21:00.000 There you go. 1.00

02:21:03.000 Agreed.

02:21:06.000 You got anything you want to, you want to get any follow ups or anything?

02:21:09.000 I think Danny's gone.

02:21:10.000 No, Dan is here.

02:21:13.000 No, I'm still here.

02:21:13.000 Hmm.

02:21:14.000 I was just waiting to see if anyone else had it.

02:21:16.000 No, because I completely agree.

02:21:16.000 As I said, I had said before, you did the right thing because your job as a father is your kid.

02:21:22.000 Yeah.

02:21:22.000 It's not their kids.

02:21:24.000 You look out for your kid.

02:21:26.000 Yeah.

02:21:27.000 No, I appreciate it, man.

02:21:28.000 I'm the best father.

02:21:29.000 Well, thanks, dude.

02:21:30.000 Appreciate it.

02:21:31.000 And it's not easy. 0.99

02:21:33.000 It sucks. 0.98

02:21:34.000 But, you know, your kids will see it. 0.98

02:21:37.000 And you're setting an example, you know, for them long term to stand up for things.

02:21:42.000 Yeah.

02:21:43.000 I understand. 0.90

02:21:44.000 I'm looking forward to the suckage paying off eventually.

02:21:47.000 My only shout out is to both side scrollers, for Craig and for the 10Cast Discord.

02:21:52.000 Thank you so much.

02:21:53.000 Have a wonderful evening.

02:21:54.000 Thanks for coming in, brothers, man.

02:21:57.000 All right.

02:21:57.000 Next up, we've got a frozen Discord.

02:22:02.000 Hyena73.

02:22:04.000 What's up?

02:22:05.000 What's up, man?

02:22:06.000 Hello.

02:22:07.000 Can you hear me all right?

02:22:08.000 Yeah, we can hear you.

02:22:09.000 Yeah.

02:22:10.000 Cool.

02:22:10.000 All right.

02:22:11.000 First of all, thanks for having me.

02:22:13.000 Big fan of all you guys.

02:22:14.000 Craig, big fan.

02:22:16.000 Been a fan since.

02:22:17.000 Screw attack.

02:22:18.000 Oh, nice.

02:22:20.000 So, yeah, my question is for Craig and also for anyone else on the panel that wants to put their two cents in.

02:22:27.000 Do you think that there is any chance that the consumers can push back enough against Sony to get them to reverse their decision on physical media?

02:22:40.000 And if not, or if, well, if yes or if not, do you think that there could be a way?

02:22:48.000 To kind of appease both sides?

02:22:50.000 Is there a strategy that Sony could take that would still make the money but also somehow save physical media?

02:23:01.000 Sure.

02:23:02.000 So, for those who don't know, Sony announced that starting in 2028, all their game consoles will all be digital, no physical media moving ahead.

02:23:09.000 Yeah, it's a pretty shitty situation.

02:23:12.000 Disk drive.

02:23:13.000 Yeah, but you heard about what's happening with the Monopoly lawsuit, right?

02:23:17.000 That the only reason Sony got around the Monopoly claim was.

02:23:21.000 Because they were like, anybody can manufacture discs.

02:23:24.000 But now that it's a singular PlayStation store, they're officially a monopoly.

02:23:26.000 The only way to buy games is through them.

02:23:28.000 So now they've just lost their legal protections.

02:23:30.000 It could force them to keep physical media.

02:23:33.000 Well, I guess there's your answer right there.

02:23:33.000 Interesting.

02:23:35.000 I would say if that happens, fucking A, awesome. 0.99

02:23:38.000 Love that. 0.99

02:23:39.000 The likelihood of that happening, I would say by Sony's choosing, very low.

02:23:44.000 They've been, you know, once one console is out, they're working on the next console.

02:23:49.000 So since the PlayStation 5 has been out for how many years now?

02:23:53.000 Five years at this point.

02:23:54.000 They've been building a PlayStation 6 with this in mind the entire time.

02:23:59.000 Discs cost more.

02:24:01.000 They are harder to deal with as far as a production standpoint.

02:24:06.000 Prevents resale.

02:24:07.000 Yeah, listen, everything about it from a company perspective, everything about it makes sense. 0.99

02:24:13.000 From a consumer and a customer perspective, everything about it fucking sucks because you don't own it. 0.99

02:24:19.000 You can't trade it. 0.99

02:24:21.000 You lose your hard drive, whatever.

02:24:22.000 You get locked out.

02:24:23.000 All of a sudden, gone.

02:24:24.000 And even if you have your movies from Sony, eventually those will go too because the licenses are up. 0.99

02:24:29.000 100 fucking movies. 0.96

02:24:30.000 First time that happened to me was on iTunes. 0.99

02:24:33.000 I was like, you know, like years and years ago, where I was like, you know, it's like you never really owned any of it.

02:24:39.000 Yeah.

02:24:40.000 No, and that's the thing.

02:24:41.000 You will own nothing and be happy, right?

02:24:43.000 And this is just another step of that.

02:24:44.000 And it's amazing to see.

02:24:48.000 Can there be pushback?

02:24:50.000 Sure.

02:24:51.000 But I very much doubt that anything will happen without any sort of government involvement. 0.99

02:24:58.000 And I don't want the government involved in any fucking decision. 0.95

02:25:01.000 I'm logged in the media for sure. 0.99

02:25:02.000 Like Domino's put out a post saying, oh, we're going to follow Sony's footsteps and make all digital pizza.

02:25:08.000 Oh, yeah.

02:25:08.000 You can download our whole menu.

02:25:10.000 I started moving all my media to a server.

02:25:13.000 Like, just an MB server, so I don't have to worry about that.

02:25:16.000 Like, there's a lot of it.

02:25:17.000 There's just shows that are so hard to find that I won't be able to get physical copies of that media and stuff like that.

02:25:23.000 But it makes sense with like television shows.

02:25:25.000 Like, nobody wants to put four discs from a season of a television show into a DVD player or anything like that anymore.

02:25:32.000 I'll tell you this, man.

02:25:33.000 Physical media will make a comeback.

02:25:36.000 Yep.

02:25:37.000 It's going to be, it's not going to be mainstream, but there will be a very niche audience that.

02:25:42.000 Steelbooks still sell very well for movies and television shows.

02:25:45.000 Well, for movies.

02:25:46.000 People like stuff.

02:25:47.000 Steelbook.

02:25:48.000 It's a specific type of release they do for the Blu rays for movies and stuff like that.

02:25:53.000 From a gaming perspective, I think everybody here who grew up with games can relate to the idea of going to a store, picking up that game, opening it on the way home, looking at the instruction booklet, getting the background, the anticipation of it.

02:26:09.000 It was amazing.

02:26:10.000 And it felt good.

02:26:11.000 Midnight launches, going to GameStop and picking up a game.

02:26:15.000 The relationships that you built. 1.00

02:26:17.000 It's all fucking gone. 0.99

02:26:17.000 Guess what? 0.99

02:26:19.000 I was in Saskatoon for a long time.

02:26:21.000 Well, you say that, but there have been no launches in the last couple of years.

02:26:25.000 Now, it's not like it was 10, 15 years ago, but they still exist sparingly.

02:26:29.000 But with this, they won't even have an opportunity to exist.

02:26:33.000 I was in Saskatoon, Saskatchewan when Halo 3 was released.

02:26:37.000 We played a show, and when the show got done, me and about 20 kids from the show walked down the street to the GameStop to grab Halo 3.

02:26:47.000 And then I stayed up all night long on the bus playing until I finished it.

02:26:51.000 We were at the flea market and stuff and some swaps over the weekend, and this guy was selling just two bins full of Sega Genesis games, all the manuals still included in all of them.

02:27:04.000 Wow.

02:27:05.000 We got a bunch of vintage games.

02:27:07.000 I got an N64, a PlayStation 1, I got big stacks of them, Game Boy.

02:27:11.000 I bought a new N64, like I rebought a new N64 for myself for my birthday, and my wife got me new copies of GoldenEye and Tony Hawk Pro Skater 2, and I found my copy of Perfect Dark.

02:27:22.000 So if you download.

02:27:24.000 Like games to a PC, right?

02:27:27.000 From like Steam or whatever.

02:27:28.000 You can put them onto a hard drive, right?

02:27:29.000 No.

02:27:30.000 Not with Steam.

02:27:30.000 No, you can't.

02:27:31.000 But there is a service called Good Old Games, GOG.

02:27:34.000 GOG allows you to do that.

02:27:35.000 It's all DRM free.

02:27:37.000 You can download everything you want, put it on another device.

02:27:41.000 GOG is the way to go.

02:27:42.000 Steam is not.

02:27:43.000 Steam is very much.

02:27:46.000 Steam has been the key to the whole movement because Steam, it's acceptable to download digital stuff.

02:27:52.000 And console games have always, you know, I say always, but.

02:27:55.000 Consoles have always been so disc driven and physical driven, whereas Steam and PC in particular, like when was the last time anybody bought a physical PC game?

02:28:03.000 30 years?

02:28:04.000 You know, like the 90s.

02:28:07.000 So, yeah, Steam has been the gateway drug when it comes to.

02:28:10.000 I mean, do computers even have CDs?

02:28:13.000 No, like input.

02:28:15.000 No, USB sticks?

02:28:16.000 Attachment.

02:28:17.000 Yeah.

02:28:19.000 Yeah, it's definitely a problem.

02:28:24.000 And without any sort of intervention, there's no way that they'll move away from it.

02:28:27.000 Well, I purchased an NES, an SNES.

02:28:30.000 I have the SNES NES combo.

02:28:32.000 You know, they sell them.

02:28:34.000 And it's Osega as well.

02:28:35.000 It's got Sega, NES, and SNES.

02:28:37.000 And I also bought two copies one in the box of the greatest game ever made and one to play.

02:28:42.000 And do you know what game that is?

02:28:46.000 SNES game.

02:28:46.000 Turtles in Time.

02:28:47.000 Let's see.

02:28:48.000 Is it a game?

02:28:51.000 Give me the developer of it Mega Man 2.

02:28:52.000 Oh, no.

02:28:53.000 That's a giveaway.

02:28:54.000 What is the greatest video game of all time?

02:28:56.000 It's on Super Nintendo.

02:28:57.000 Okay.

02:28:57.000 I'm going to say, do you like RPGs?

02:29:00.000 You're asking for hints.

02:29:01.000 I know.

02:29:02.000 If you don't know what the greatest video game is, I'm going to go Chrono Trigger.

02:29:04.000 You are correct.

02:29:05.000 Chrono Trigger.

02:29:05.000 Good job, sir.

02:29:06.000 Yes.

02:29:07.000 I was going to say, Could you?

02:29:08.000 But you're like, I want to make sure I get it.

02:29:09.000 Indeed.

02:29:10.000 I got an in the box version sealed, not going to open it, and I got a version to play with.

02:29:14.000 Could you?

02:29:14.000 You have a sealed Chrono Trigger in box?

02:29:16.000 No, I don't mean like never been opened.

02:29:18.000 Okay.

02:29:19.000 Like I have the box and the pamphlet, and it's like an old box, and it's used.

02:29:22.000 Do you know Price Charting?

02:29:24.000 PriceCharting.com allows you to track all that stuff.

02:29:27.000 MarRPG as well.

02:29:27.000 I'm going to tell you how much.

02:29:28.000 Chrono Trigger.

02:29:29.000 It's used.

02:29:30.000 It's not never been opened.

02:29:31.000 As long as you have it in box.

02:29:31.000 No, that's fine.

02:29:33.000 So Chrono Trigger, just the game right now, is worth $260.

02:29:37.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:29:38.000 Now, The complete price, like you have $826.

02:29:41.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:29:42.000 I got it for like $500.

02:29:43.000 Dude, spectacular.

02:29:44.000 Yeah, I got Super Mario RPG as well, two copies, same thing, one in the box, one without.

02:29:48.000 And then I got Breath of Fire and Breath of Fire 2, and my child will play these games.

02:29:52.000 Love that.

02:29:54.000 No cheat codes.

02:29:56.000 I have behind me on my set, I have a bunch of physical games, Super Nintendo games in box.

02:30:02.000 But the holy grail that I have, I have several high dollar collectibles from a.

02:30:10.000 Old school video game perspective.

02:30:12.000 I have one that is worth like $4,000.

02:30:14.000 It's a Turok 2 demo for the N64, not for resale thing.

02:30:21.000 And a fan gave that to me several years ago.

02:30:24.000 And I was like, and I don't think he knew what he had because he handed that to me.

02:30:29.000 Yeah, Turok 2, of all things.

02:30:30.000 Turok 2 is really good.

02:30:32.000 But the true holy grail I have was a DuckTales for the Nintendo Entertainment System.

02:30:41.000 They released a remastered version of it about a decade ago.

02:30:44.000 And when they released the remastered version on the PC, they sent out a media kit to a bunch of influencers or YouTubers or whatever.

02:30:54.000 I got one of those, and it has a gold playable NES version of DuckTales in it.

02:31:01.000 And it came with this lunchbox that has DuckTales, all these cool things from the 80s.

02:31:09.000 And that's worth like 10 grand.

02:31:10.000 There's a.

02:31:12.000 Old school game store in Winchester, Virginia, where I picked a bunch of stuff.

02:31:15.000 It's called like Back to the Games or something.

02:31:17.000 Something like that.

02:31:18.000 There's nothing like going into an old school retro store is awesome, but finding a mom and pop that has any sort of variety in their old school games is very hard.

02:31:32.000 This place has got them.

02:31:33.000 Really?

02:31:33.000 I went in there and I just bought like $3,000 worth of things.

02:31:37.000 That's what ruins thrifting is that thrift stores used to be able to find really, really good, like rare copies of games, and now because of eBay, they It doesn't even make it there.

02:31:48.000 It immediately goes behind glass and costs.

02:31:50.000 I saw a video where a guy bought a clock at a thrift store and opened up the back, and that was 10 grand in bills stuffed in the back of it.

02:31:55.000 He was like, whoa, and legally it's his.

02:31:57.000 Yeah, because he bought it and whatever was in it.

02:31:57.000 Good for him.

02:31:59.000 I think of like, so I've been doing this a long time, and we used to host a number of different series.

02:32:05.000 One of them was a show called Game Chasers, and they would, that was like their whole bit they'd go to flea markets, they'd go to mom and pop stores, and they would try to find these different collectible games, you know, in box and stuff.

02:32:17.000 And to see the prices that they were buying these games for 15 years ago compared to today, I mean, inflation is real in the collecting space.

02:32:26.000 It's crazy.

02:32:26.000 They were buying these box games for 15 bucks, and now they're worth 300.

02:32:30.000 Well, I was like, for me, it's like, I don't want to go look for it and pay a bunch of extra money.

02:32:34.000 The whole point is to want to go find something at the.

02:32:37.000 Like, there's a couple of movies that I really want to find at, like, thrift stores where the whole joy is to go look through all the VHSs at the thrift store because I'm still looking for that one copy of a specific movie.

02:32:49.000 Yeah, no, there's a joy in the discovery of it.

02:32:49.000 Sure.

02:32:53.000 Oh, shit. 1.00

02:32:54.000 I can't believe I found that. 0.99

02:32:55.000 Though, if anybody has, like, a copy of the 1986 BMX movie Rad on VHS still in the box, hit me up.

02:33:05.000 Do you want to add anything or shout anything out, brother?

02:33:08.000 Me?

02:33:09.000 Caller.

02:33:10.000 Yeah, if that's all right, I've got two follow up questions.

02:33:14.000 I get it.

02:33:14.000 Is that all right?

02:33:15.000 Yeah.

02:33:17.000 First is why is it then that it works for Steam and they can get away with it, but Sony and Microsoft can't?

02:33:28.000 And the second is why do you think that it is that Microsoft isn't jumping on this?

02:33:35.000 After all the grief that they got given when the Xbox One launched with the whole, this is how we trade games and, you know, that whole thing, you'd think they would capitalize on that.

02:33:44.000 But they seem to be pretty quiet.

02:33:46.000 So, two sides of that.

02:33:48.000 Number one, Steam was the first, and it was novel when they did it, and it was convenient then.

02:33:52.000 So, they got the first adopter ability there, and it became part of the process on Steam.

02:33:58.000 Steam never offered physical games at any point.

02:34:02.000 So, it was always digital, and that was the product.

02:34:05.000 As far as why Xbox has chimed in and, Same exact reason.

02:34:09.000 They've been building their console with this in mind for the longest time.

02:34:13.000 They're just allowing PlayStation to take the bullets.

02:34:16.000 They're going to come and let them take the bullets, and they're going to go, oh, by the way, we're doing it too.

02:34:19.000 Okay, cool.

02:34:20.000 It's kind of like the headphone jack on phones.

02:34:23.000 Apple announced they're getting rid of it.

02:34:25.000 That way they could sell you the extra headphones.

02:34:27.000 And then Android just didn't say anything.

02:34:29.000 It just was gone.

02:34:31.000 Yeah.

02:34:31.000 It didn't say anything.

02:34:32.000 It was like, see ya.

02:34:35.000 And it's one of the most reliable ports for anything.

02:34:37.000 You can do so much with it.

02:34:38.000 You could transmit data over it.

02:34:39.000 So you could.

02:34:40.000 Like back in the day when you'd do the square and you'd stick it in to swipe, and they got rid of all that stuff.

02:34:44.000 Yeah.

02:34:45.000 I won't even get rid of my S20 because I want expandable storage.

02:34:49.000 Like, I don't want everything on the cloud.

02:34:54.000 You'll live in the pod.

02:34:55.000 And you won't eat the bugs.

02:34:55.000 Yep.

02:34:56.000 The bugs will be pumped into your stomach.

02:34:58.000 By the way, your copy of Super Mario RPG is worth $223.

02:35:03.000 Yeah, indeed.

02:35:04.000 I'm just letting you know.

02:35:04.000 That's why I bought it.

02:35:06.000 I bought it as a collectible.

02:35:07.000 I know.

02:35:07.000 Oh, I know.

02:35:08.000 I'm just, I love price charting and I love looking.

02:35:10.000 At the cost of these, the price of these things, I love everything about it.

02:35:12.000 Yeah, I got two Mario RPGs because one's in the box as well, and one's just a loose cartridge.

02:35:17.000 I was like, one, I'm gonna keep.

02:35:18.000 And then I got Breath of Fire one and two.

02:35:21.000 What else did I get?

02:35:22.000 I got Mario Kart, no box though.

02:35:22.000 Mario Kart.

02:35:24.000 Okay, and uh, yeah, I don't know.

02:35:27.000 Got a bunch of Sega games.

02:35:28.000 Breath of Fire loose, Breath of Fire, Breath of Fire 2, 116, in box, 300.

02:35:35.000 It's funny because it's such a shittier game than I remember.

02:35:38.000 I loved it when I was a kid, and I'm playing it, and I'm like, this is so it's like two hours of gameplay.

02:35:42.000 Yeah, super easy.

02:35:44.000 Oh, by the way, if there are any Street Fighter fans in here, there is a Street Fighter movie coming out, but they are making a Streets of Rage movie.

02:35:51.000 So the Sega fans will finally have something besides Sonic to be excited about.

02:35:56.000 You had another question, right?

02:36:00.000 No, no, that's pretty much it.

02:36:03.000 If you indulge me in a couple of shout outs.

02:36:06.000 Sure.

02:36:08.000 So, first, obviously, the Discord.

02:36:11.000 Anybody here who's just listening for Stud and Craig, join Discord.

02:36:16.000 It's awesome.

02:36:17.000 Everyone there is just like you.

02:36:19.000 And the second is obviously Side Scrolls.

02:36:21.000 If you're not familiar with Side Scrolls, go hit them up, join them.

02:36:27.000 They're also awesome.

02:36:28.000 And also, Craig, I thought your most cherished procession was the Concord copies that you got.

02:36:36.000 Oh, have a good one.

02:36:38.000 I have two copies of Concord if anyone would like to pick them up.

02:36:41.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:36:41.000 Really?

02:36:42.000 Are they worth nothing?

02:36:43.000 No, they're worth next to nothing.

02:36:45.000 Wow, I want one.

02:36:46.000 Yeah, well, I. Bro, it's going to be worth something soon.

02:36:48.000 You think so?

02:36:49.000 Yeah.

02:36:49.000 But, you know, I went to a coin shop and they had Confederate money.

02:36:54.000 It was really expensive.

02:36:55.000 And then I was like, wow, I bought some of these old school American notes, but I didn't buy any of the Confederate stuff.

02:37:00.000 The guy said, up until like.

02:37:02.000 Recently, Confederate money was just toilet paper.

02:37:05.000 So people had stacks and stacks and stacks of it.

02:37:07.000 But now it's starting to become a collector's item because younger people are like, oh, wow, Confederate money.

02:37:07.000 Nobody cared.

02:37:11.000 They want to have somebody like, look at that.

02:37:13.000 So now it's becoming more and more valuable.

02:37:15.000 That Concorde game is going to be a piece of history.

02:37:17.000 Oh, it will for sure.

02:37:18.000 Yeah, for sure.

02:37:19.000 30 years and be auctioned for a million bucks or something.

02:37:19.000 It's not right now.

02:37:22.000 Well, Concorde.

02:37:23.000 I'm going to be rich.

02:37:24.000 Let's go.

02:37:26.000 Let's get Kai in here.

02:37:26.000 All right.

02:37:28.000 What's up?

02:37:29.000 What's up, Kai?

02:37:31.000 What's up, man?

02:37:32.000 So, question for the panel and everyone Do you believe that there are no riots this year?

02:37:32.000 What's up?

02:37:36.000 Because the left have learned that it's better to get elected as Democrats to enact their policies instead of funding riots.

02:37:44.000 Because we see people like AOC, Zoran Madai, getting elected, and there's a lot of DSA people trying to run as Democrats.

02:37:51.000 There's been a riot season every year for 20 years.

02:37:53.000 They serve different functions.

02:37:55.000 But I've not had a year where there haven't been big protests.

02:37:59.000 Well, I'm just wondering what Tim was trying to say.

02:38:00.000 It's like they're probably like, yeah, it's a riot, but they're probably focusing on elsewhere trying to get into power.

02:38:06.000 So that's what I'm trying to say.

02:38:07.000 I understand.

02:38:08.000 But they've always been trying to get into power and there's always been protests.

02:38:08.000 Oh.

02:38:11.000 Protests is for, like Brad said, for different reasons.

02:38:14.000 It is weird that we are in the summer coming off of a winter where two Americans were killed and they're not out in the streets.

02:38:21.000 There's no organizing.

02:38:22.000 I think it's USAID.

02:38:26.000 All right.

02:38:30.000 It is true that, you know, obviously they are trying to get into power and everything.

02:38:33.000 But I think the other part of it really is that for the average person, you know, it used to be the news that would keep you informed about this stuff going on.

02:38:42.000 And, In lieu of the way the news is going these days and the fact that everything is done through independent media now, it's just a different beast altogether.

02:38:50.000 It also might be the purchase of TikTok.

02:38:52.000 Yeah.

02:38:53.000 What people are being shown?

02:38:54.000 It's not censorious as hell on TikTok, so.

02:38:57.000 Still?

02:38:58.000 No, more so now.

02:38:59.000 Oh, really?

02:39:00.000 The American version is super censorious.

02:39:00.000 Oh, yeah.

02:39:01.000 Yeah, but are they promoting activist stuff? 0.96

02:39:04.000 Like, come out in the streets and do dumb things. 0.69

02:39:06.000 Yeah. 0.96

02:39:08.000 I don't know.

02:39:09.000 I don't have TikTok.

02:39:10.000 Yeah, me either.

02:39:13.000 Yeah, the show was banned several times.

02:39:14.000 Even PCC was banned from TikTok. 1.00

02:39:17.000 What the fuck, man? 1.00

02:39:19.000 That's ridiculous. 1.00

02:39:20.000 I don't know. 0.91

02:39:20.000 I got banned once. 0.91

02:39:21.000 Yeah.

02:39:22.000 But I'm not even sure.

02:39:23.000 I think it was Mary.

02:39:24.000 It wasn't me. 0.76

02:39:25.000 It was likely Mary that got us banned.

02:39:27.000 It wasn't something I said.

02:39:28.000 We never broke any rules.

02:39:29.000 They just do this.

02:39:29.000 And then everyone says, oh, it's normal.

02:39:30.000 You get banned all the time.

02:39:31.000 You got to make a new account.

02:39:32.000 Yep.

02:39:33.000 I think I put up a video of me shooting guns and they didn't like that.

02:39:36.000 They're just like, oh, nope.

02:39:37.000 So, so you got anything you want to add?

02:39:42.000 Well, I just think there's more.

02:39:43.000 I just think they're focused on trying to get getting elected.

02:39:45.000 But, uh, for, Before I head out, Tim, if you do get Kirshan, make sure she doesn't bring up her mom or sounding, okay?

02:39:53.000 So just a little warning.

02:39:55.000 I'll take your word for it.

02:39:57.000 And Craig Mania, speaking of AI and VTubers, I want to give a shout out to Leaflet.

02:39:57.000 Oh, yeah.

02:40:02.000 She's making a program called Avenge for her, which is making it easier for people to get into VTubing.

02:40:07.000 I'm not sure if you want to explain it to them real quick because you did have Leaflet on today.

02:40:11.000 Yeah.

02:40:12.000 Thank you for that.

02:40:13.000 If you want to talk about somebody who's pushing the boundaries when it comes to AI and the VTubing space, so there's always been a big barrier of entry when it comes to VTubing, right?

02:40:22.000 You need somebody to create a model for you, then you have.

02:40:25.000 What they're called riggers and riggers go in, and it's just like with any sort of uh, you know, motion graphics, you'd have the uh, and what Leaflet, this VTuber, has done.

02:40:36.000 By the way, she used to have a long career in game design, she's just made her transition over to the VTubing space.

02:40:42.000 She's created a program that is available for free that allows people the opportunity to go in and uh, more or less create a VTuber model and have it rigged uh, very easily, and uh, it's lowered the barrier of entry.

02:40:57.000 To practically nothing, and anybody can do it at any time.

02:41:01.000 And it has so many people seething that she's pissed off all the right people.

02:41:07.000 It's awesome. 0.82

02:41:08.000 So, yeah, she's awesome. 0.99

02:41:10.000 She's a great asset, and she's super smart.

02:41:13.000 What's her ex account?

02:41:14.000 Leaflet.

02:41:15.000 Yeah, I think it's just Leaflet, I believe.

02:41:18.000 So, yeah, she's awesome.

02:41:21.000 There's Lil Leaflet, Leaflet.js.

02:41:24.000 Let me find her really quick. 1.00

02:41:25.000 She's great.

02:41:27.000 Leaflet.

02:41:28.000 Let's see.

02:41:28.000 Yeah, she's.

02:41:30.000 Leaflet.

02:41:31.000 Is that everything, brother?

02:41:32.000 You want to shout anything else out?

02:41:35.000 Yeah, that's all, Tim.

02:41:36.000 Thank you very much and have a nice day.

02:41:37.000 Thanks for being here, man.

02:41:39.000 Yeah, it's just leaflet at L E A F L I T.

02:41:43.000 Okay.

02:41:44.000 Last but not least, we got Resident Canuck.

02:41:47.000 What's up?

02:41:47.000 What up?

02:41:49.000 Well, hi, guys.

02:41:51.000 Thanks for taking my question.

02:41:54.000 I should really change my name to Undercover Bioredev.

02:42:00.000 Yeah, worked on Dragon Age Veil Guard.

02:42:02.000 Oh, wow.

02:42:04.000 Sorry to hear that.

02:42:05.000 Yeah, I have stories.

02:42:09.000 If you ever want to share them.

02:42:10.000 Man, Inquisition was great, wasn't it?

02:42:12.000 I'll tell you what, it was.

02:42:17.000 Dragon Age is going to have a struggle coming back from what happened with Veil Guard. 1.00

02:42:23.000 What the fuck are these people thinking, man? 0.99

02:42:27.000 I can tell you this. 1.00

02:42:27.000 I don't know. 1.00

02:42:28.000 When I worked at Fusion, the higher ups were like late 30s, early 40s.

02:42:31.000 Mm hmm. 0.99

02:42:32.000 And when I asked them why they were doing the weird woke shit, they said, This is what young people want. 0.99

02:42:36.000 And I said, No, it isn't. 0.99

02:42:37.000 Right.

02:42:38.000 And I was like, You can go on any social media platform and look at the trending content and see this is not what they're posting.

02:42:42.000 And they were like, Well, you know, our marketing people tell us, if we want to be big, we got to target the young people today.

02:42:48.000 So there's a platform for them tomorrow.

02:42:49.000 And guess what?

02:42:50.000 They burned $300 million, went bankrupt, and shut down.

02:42:54.000 Dude, I can add to that a little bit.

02:42:59.000 All of our leads were basically management, like they were just industrial actors. 0.97

02:43:03.000 Activists and like investors, they didn't really give a shit about the games industry or the game. 0.85

02:43:10.000 And you would sit there in a meeting and they would just be like, This is what people want. 0.93

02:43:14.000 And you're like, Is it really what people want?

02:43:16.000 Or is it what investors want?

02:43:19.000 Can we, will you hit me up?

02:43:21.000 Because I think it would be really cool to do a big like Veil Guard detox and just kind of get some behind the scenes stories from.

02:43:30.000 You gotta make them pull a barv or whatever it was called.

02:43:32.000 Yeah, you gotta pull a barv, do some foot shots.

02:43:35.000 Yeah, I think it's a barv, right?

02:43:37.000 It was a barf, right?

02:43:39.000 Yeah, it was a barf.

02:43:40.000 Yeah.

02:43:42.000 Yeah.

02:43:43.000 So that'd be great.

02:43:44.000 And, dude, please email me, get a hold of me.

02:43:46.000 Was it 10 push ups?

02:43:48.000 It was whatever needed to be for the unjust nature of whatever it is that they said, or they, them said, or she said, or whatever.

02:43:54.000 Yeah, that was in the video game where.

02:43:57.000 They're talking to a developer about it right now.

02:43:57.000 Yes.

02:44:00.000 So, yes, I'm sorry.

02:44:01.000 Please tell me more.

02:44:04.000 Oh, I can.

02:44:04.000 Yeah.

02:44:05.000 Would you like me to send you an email to Side Scrollers?

02:44:09.000 Email me at Craig at SidescrollersPlus.com.

02:44:11.000 Will do.

02:44:11.000 Cool.

02:44:12.000 Cool.

02:44:13.000 Anyways, my question Do you think the recent Xbox layoffs.

02:44:17.000 And the industry collapse at large was largely orchestrated by communists and institutional investors.

02:44:25.000 I also know that Craig has personally mentioned in the past about doing a consultancy agency, but at what point do you just sit down and crack a cold one and let the entire system burn?

02:44:36.000 They would never, ever, ever hire me from a consultancy agency, any agency that I started, simply because I'm not what they want to hear, right?

02:44:36.000 Yeah, you know, it's funny.

02:44:48.000 We have a, you know, our audience is a bunch of normal people, normal men who like boobs, don't do the pronoun thing, knows what a man is, knows what a woman is.

02:45:00.000 And in the gaming industry, I mean, as you were talking about, this is an industry that is rife with activism.

02:45:08.000 And they don't want to end that by any means.

02:45:11.000 You know why World of Warcraft was good?

02:45:14.000 It's not the gameplay, that was okay.

02:45:16.000 It was because you had to meet people and make friends.

02:45:19.000 In order to actually play the game, we used.

02:45:22.000 I didn't use TeamSpeak.

02:45:24.000 I used the other one.

02:45:26.000 But it was actually.

02:45:27.000 Was it?

02:45:28.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:45:29.000 Yeah, I used Event.

02:45:29.000 Event.

02:45:30.000 And now, World of Warcraft, I haven't played in several years.

02:45:34.000 It's like you click a button and you're automatically in a raid.

02:45:36.000 Right, right, right. 1.00

02:45:36.000 It's boring as shit. 1.00

02:45:37.000 Not fun. 0.99

02:45:38.000 Ruins the community aspect of it.

02:45:39.000 To answer your initial question about the Xbox layoffs, I think there's a number of different factors.

02:45:44.000 I think this, obviously, the financial aspect of it when it comes to the games drastically underperforming has played a very big role in it.

02:45:51.000 The bloated.

02:45:54.000 The bloated budgets, and the biggest thing I think for a lot of those games is they just forgot their audience, they forgot their core audience who was buying the games.

02:46:02.000 Um, there's this myth in the video game industry that 50% of gamers are women, and I think anybody who has ever played a video game knows that's a bunch of um, that's because of the data tied to self bingo, Candy Crush, and cell phone use.

02:46:17.000 But they're not the ones buying games for Xbox, so they have all these games, all this data saying, Oh, dude, you're 50% of women, and why aren't the women buying the games?

02:46:25.000 Well, they're not going out and buying Dragon.

02:46:26.000 This is what happened, an investor walked in and said. 1.00

02:46:29.000 Half of the people buying are women. 1.00

02:46:30.000 Why aren't you making games that target them? 0.94

02:46:32.000 And they went, okay.

02:46:32.000 You're losing your money.

02:46:33.000 Yep. 1.00

02:46:34.000 So they made shit. 1.00

02:46:35.000 They made garbage, not popular stuff, and they misread the data or they were motivated to misread the data, whatever it may be. 1.00

02:46:35.000 Yes. 1.00

02:46:42.000 It's about pushing a larger narrative.

02:46:45.000 It truly is.

02:46:48.000 And I, but going back to the Xbox thing, I think there's a, it's a big part of it.

02:46:53.000 Do I think, look, Xbox is a brand that has suffered for a long time.

02:47:00.000 I mean, the last time it was, Truly relevant, um, you know, yeah, there was the Xbox One, but that was a far cry from what the Xbox 360 was, and the Xbox 360 was 15 years ago at this point, so Xbox as a brand has been struggling for a long time.

02:47:14.000 The 360 was over 15 years ago because, like I said, in two whatever, whenever Halo 3 came out, yeah, it was on the Xbox 360, so I think it was probably 20 years ago.

02:47:24.000 Well, it's been a long time, right?

02:47:29.000 So, you're dealing with a company that uh has really struggled with that identity that uh.

02:47:34.000 You know, the previous caller, I believe, mentioned the idea of them having an opportunity to capitalize on physical games.

02:47:40.000 They've had no idea what the hell they're doing.

02:47:43.000 And it started at the top, and they've had a big change of CEO, and she's had to go in and slice some heads off.

02:47:49.000 And now it's funny, we talked about this today.

02:47:52.000 There's all these reports about them looking to hire folks out of India now. 0.69

02:47:58.000 They fired all the Americans and all the, you know. 1.00

02:48:00.000 H1B.

02:48:00.000 Yep, there we are.

02:48:02.000 So I can't speak on the communist nature of it.

02:48:06.000 I don't have any inside information when it comes to that. 0.99

02:48:08.000 But I think it really just comes down to they got to make some fucking money. 0.98

02:48:13.000 And they haven't been doing that for a long time. 0.99

02:48:15.000 I mean, I can add a little bit to the communist nature of that.

02:48:21.000 Please, go ahead.

02:48:23.000 I mean, I used to be in like a game industry Discord.

02:48:27.000 Not going to say it, but like one of the frequent arguments was constantly like a lot of these people just simply hate the players and hate the people who make play games and buy games.

02:48:40.000 And you would talk to them and they would be basically straight up communists.

02:48:44.000 Can I ask you why?

02:48:46.000 That's the thing I don't understand.

02:48:48.000 Why would people who get into making games hate their customer?

02:48:53.000 I don't understand that.

02:48:54.000 Nothing about that makes sense to me.

02:48:57.000 It's like playing in a band and hating the people who come and watch your music.

02:49:01.000 That makes zero sense to me.

02:49:02.000 Walk me through that, Mike.

02:49:03.000 It's because they go into these jobs for the purpose of destroying them, not because they want to be involved in games. 0.86

02:49:07.000 Because gamers are chuds. 0.87

02:49:09.000 Yes. 0.94

02:49:10.000 Okay.

02:49:10.000 So is that the reason?

02:49:11.000 Are they so resentful at the straight white male that they want to tear it down to the inside?

02:49:18.000 I think it's partly what Phil and Tim have said, but I also think a lot of it is being a game developer has been largely seen as a really cool job.

02:49:27.000 And you have people like me who, like, I don't associate, I don't agree with those people at all.

02:49:33.000 I have no, utterly, I can't physically associate with those people anymore.

02:49:39.000 Like, they just make my head spin.

02:49:43.000 But you also have, like, part of me thinks that, like, they come into the industry because it's a cool job.

02:49:48.000 And when you're in college, you don't really know what to do.

02:49:52.000 And being a game developer seems pretty easy.

02:49:56.000 And, you know, you just slap a bunch of textures on and you just put the game out on Unreal and it's easy.

02:50:02.000 And it's like looking back, it's like you have people like me who would spend, I don't know, 16 hour days, 15 hour work days just making DevOps pipelines and working on the back end of the games and just loving it.

02:50:18.000 And then you had other people who literally just skated on by doing the bare minimum work.

02:50:24.000 I would love to pick your brain and do, like I said, a detox of this.

02:50:30.000 It seems like such a story that needs to be told from people who've experienced it from the inside, because that is one of the great mysteries of how they're going to solve that brand.

02:50:43.000 And if it even is salvageable after what was thrown out there, and those cutscenes will live in gaming history for their infamy.

02:50:56.000 I mean, like, I remember when the Bud Light stuff happened and, like, I had moved on and I was, like, sitting there and, like, talking with a bunch of friends.

02:51:07.000 And I was like, I should message my old co workers and tell them to, they should probably do something.

02:51:14.000 And I remember shaking my head.

02:51:16.000 And then I was like, this is, like, in 2022, 2023.

02:51:20.000 And I remember, like, just, like, being like, it's not going to be that bad.

02:51:24.000 And the game came out and I was watching, like, Tim Pool.

02:51:29.000 And like side scrollers, and you guys were just hounding this game into the ground.

02:51:33.000 I'm just sitting there being like, My name's in the credits. 1.00

02:51:39.000 Shame.

02:51:40.000 Shame.

02:51:41.000 Well, sorry for your loss.

02:51:43.000 And sorry, you know, but I'll tell you what, it'd be interesting to hear about the life cycle, the development life cycle of that thing, and to hear, you know, kind of where things went wrong from a management perspective and maybe the way the story was supposed to go and maybe they pushed it a different direction.

02:52:05.000 That'd be really, really intriguing, man.

02:52:07.000 So, yes, please, please email me.

02:52:08.000 I would love to set something up.

02:52:09.000 And when you do that, just, Let me know you're legit.

02:52:13.000 Put me, you know, send me some games you've worked on just so I know you're not, you know, I don't, I obviously don't know you, right?

02:52:20.000 So I want to have an idea of, you know, if you're legit.

02:52:23.000 I'm sure you are, but obviously I want to do a little background on you as well.

02:52:26.000 So yeah, cool.

02:52:29.000 Cool.

02:52:30.000 Thank you, brother.

02:52:30.000 Appreciate it, man.

02:52:31.000 Look forward to talking.

02:52:32.000 Thanks for calling in, man.

02:52:33.000 Thanks, dude.

02:52:34.000 You want to shout anything out?

02:52:37.000 Shout out to the members of the Discord server, especially all the volunteers who do a lot of good work.

02:52:42.000 And shout out to my team who, right now, we usually do our meeting.

02:52:47.000 Thank you, my indie team compatriots who allowed me to do this.

02:52:53.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.

02:52:53.000 Right on.

02:52:54.000 Word.

02:52:55.000 Thanks, guys.

02:52:56.000 Words, man.

02:52:57.000 Right on.

02:52:59.000 Who do we got tomorrow? 0.97

02:53:00.000 Tomorrow, we got Ariel Scarsella.

02:53:02.000 She's back.

02:53:03.000 Oh.

02:53:04.000 It's going to be a lot of fun.

02:53:04.000 She's back.

02:53:07.000 Big project in the works, as per always, but we're back in the morning with more shows.

02:53:09.000 So, you guys rock.

02:53:10.000 Thanks for being members, Greg.

02:53:11.000 It's been great hanging out.

02:53:12.000 Yeah, man.

02:53:13.000 It's truly a pleasure.

02:53:14.000 This is a really fun experience.

02:53:14.000 Thanks for having me.

02:53:16.000 You guys are all great dudes. 0.96

02:53:18.000 I'm just fucking cold. 0.95

02:53:21.000 Jacket next time. 0.97

02:53:22.000 I'll bring you up.

02:53:22.000 I will.

02:53:23.000 We can just turn that off.

02:53:24.000 All right, everybody.

02:53:25.000 We'll see you all tomorrow.

02:53:25.000 Thanks for hanging out.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - July 14, 2026

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