Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - SCOTUS Ruling Just Gave GOP THIRTY SEATS, This Is NUCLEAR IN Politics | Timcast IRL

00:02:59.000 The Supreme Court just dropped a political nuclear bomb with their ruling on the Voting Rights Act, a 6 3 conservative ruling saying you cannot have racially gerrymandered congressional districts.

00:03:15.000 What this means as of right now, it means that two congressional districts that are Democrat based on race in Louisiana are going to have to be redrawn, likely eliminating the Democrat seats in Louisiana, giving Republicans plus two.

00:03:30.000 The bigger picture.

00:03:32.000 There are around 30 congressional seats nationwide that are drawn up due to the VRA based on race.

00:03:41.000 With the ruling from the Supreme Court that it is unconstitutional, we could see a cascade with all of these red states now technically being required to redraw their congressional maps, not just gerrymandering, but eliminating long Democrat held seats under the VRA.

00:04:02.000 This could swing things for the Republicans between 30 and 40 congressional seats. 0.80

00:04:09.000 The big question is will the Republicans actually have the balls to do it?

00:04:14.000 Well, the good news for Republicans is that it doesn't actually require that much effort from Republican governance because individuals in these states or in these districts specifically can file lawsuits now that the attorneys general of these states would not be able to defend because the Supreme Court already said no. 0.83

00:04:34.000 It's like the end of Roe v. Wade almost.

00:04:35.000 They didn't overturn the VRA.

00:04:37.000 They effectively said, you can use this now against these districts.

00:04:42.000 Meaning, if you live in one of these districts that's gerrymandered based on race, you can sue saying it's racially discriminatory against me to have a district drawn up based on other races.

00:04:55.000 This is a nuclear bomb.

00:04:56.000 The Republican Party winning the midterms is now in play if this happens.

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00:07:42.000 What is going on, guys?

00:07:43.000 It's been a very long time since I've been on here, but normally I am doing Pop Culture Crisis Live Monday through Friday at 3 p.m. Eastern Standard Time, which is, of course, noon Pacific.

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00:07:52.000 How are you doing again?

00:07:53.000 I'm pretty good, man.

00:07:55.000 I'm drinking coffee right now.

00:07:56.000 Casper and myself.

00:07:57.000 Alex Stein in the house, too.

00:07:58.000 You have the Morpheus glasses on tonight.

00:08:00.000 Red pill, blue pill.

00:08:01.000 I'm wearing them a lot, Louis.

00:08:02.000 I'm dark.

00:08:03.000 What button would you take, Ian, if he read or I would take the red pill, dude?

00:08:07.000 Yeah, yes.

00:08:07.000 You would.

00:08:08.000 Which button would you press?

00:08:09.000 The red button or the blue button?

00:08:11.000 What if you took both of them at the same time?

00:08:13.000 The red buttons?

00:08:14.000 I'm going to say this right now.

00:08:15.000 If you're ever applying for a job, here you say red button, you're not going to.

00:08:18.000 What's the red button do?

00:08:19.000 We'll talk about it in a little bit.

00:08:21.000 Harder banks.

00:08:21.000 What's up?

00:08:22.000 What's up, man?

00:08:23.000 Let's get into it.

00:08:24.000 Here's the news from The Guardian U.S. Supreme Court rules Louisiana must redraw its congressional map in landmark case.

00:08:32.000 The decision effectively guts major section of the Voting Rights Act.

00:08:36.000 The last remaining provision of the 1965 civil rights law that prevents racial discrimination in voting.

00:08:41.000 Let me just set the record straight and give you the quick gist.

00:08:44.000 The 1965 precedent basically said, hey, look, there's a lot of black people there, systemic racism, so they should have congressional representation.

00:08:52.000 So they drew up these maps for the purpose of correcting past injustice.

00:08:56.000 By today's standard, the Supreme Court's basically said that's discriminatory against other races now.

00:09:02.000 In fact, Alito made the argument that it seemed like the framers of this law intended for some kind of sunsetting.

00:09:02.000 We're well past this.

00:09:09.000 That it was to deal with something specific at the time that we are not dealing with today.

00:09:15.000 So, that being said, they have issued their ruling.

00:09:18.000 You cannot have congressional districts based on race.

00:09:24.000 Why does that matter?

00:09:25.000 Well, my friends, we've got this from the persistence, Scott Pressler.

00:09:29.000 He says two of Pennsylvania's congressional districts were drawn as a result of the unconstitutional race based Voting Rights Act requirements.

00:09:38.000 The RNC should not just focus on Southern states.

00:09:41.000 But must also sue Pennsylvania for its illegal maps. 0.94

00:09:46.000 Sue Pennsylvania.

00:09:47.000 Where's the thing? 0.99

00:09:49.000 You don't need the RNC to do it.

00:09:51.000 Anyone who lives in these districts will have legal standing because you are being impacted by this.

00:09:58.000 And here's where it gets really crazy.

00:10:01.000 I asked Grok, break it down for me, brother.

00:10:03.000 Nearly all 20 to 30 of the VRA mandated congressional districts in Republican leaning states are held by Democrats.

00:10:12.000 That means if we go on the high end, Imagine a Congress with only 180 Democrat votes, 230 or some odd Republican ones.

00:10:23.000 And I'm going to lay it out there a little bit more.

00:10:25.000 It's actually upwards of 40, but I will throw a wrench in the spokes for the Democrat or purple states.

00:10:31.000 The issue here is that if you sue to change, to redraw these racist maps, if the state is held by Democrats, they will take the opportunity to redistrict right now and they will make more Democrat districts.

00:10:46.000 So they'll say, okay, we won't use race as the basis.

00:10:50.000 We'll use something else.

00:10:51.000 And this could result in every single state in the country being redrawn right now in the most insane of ways.

00:11:00.000 Now, the end result, I think, is because the VRA largely affects Democrat districts in red states.

00:11:06.000 That was the point.

00:11:07.000 This is going to put the Republican Party back in play. 0.98

00:11:10.000 Polls be damned.

00:11:12.000 And the funny thing to me is I'm going to pull up here we got from Kalshi 2026 midterms balance of power has not adjusted for this. 0.94

00:11:20.000 I'm not recommending anybody do anything.

00:11:22.000 Don't spend the money on that.

00:11:23.000 Don't listen to me.

00:11:24.000 I'm just saying.

00:11:25.000 I am surprised we have only seen a two point jump in Republican control of the House and Senate.

00:11:31.000 Poll wise, Republicans are set to win the Senate.

00:11:35.000 Poll wise, it is leaning Democrat.

00:11:38.000 So right now, we don't know for sure if it's going to be a Democrat House and Senate or a Democrat House with a Republican Senate.

00:11:45.000 But I actually believe, based on this move from the Supreme Court, if these lawsuits get filed across the board in every one of these districts, these states have no choice.

00:11:55.000 The Supreme Court has already said it is unconstitutional.

00:11:58.000 How would they not take this action?

00:12:00.000 What's their argument?

00:12:01.000 What could they possibly do?

00:12:03.000 Maybe.

00:12:03.000 Delay?

00:12:04.000 But six months is a long time.

00:12:06.000 And then, if they don't respond, this could call the election itself into question.

00:12:11.000 If they move forward with elections in what has been determined to be unconstitutional congressional districts, then you're going to have way more lawsuits.

00:12:19.000 And I don't know how that ends up, but this is going to be a wacky and wild midterm.

00:12:22.000 So all I can say is typically, Well, I'll put it this way.

00:12:26.000 This is particularly esoteric, right?

00:12:29.000 When you're reading the news and someone says something like, you know, Trump announces this guy will head the Fed, everybody runs to buy in the prediction market to try and get it in before it flips 99% and they can make a profit.

00:12:43.000 I don't think people who normally buy understand the ramifications of this SCOTUS ruling and how it is the domino being knocked over that will result in Republicans having a much, much better chance of winning.

00:12:55.000 Not to mention, guys, The latest poll from Harvard Harris X is that Republicans are tied with Democrats.

00:13:00.000 So I'm curious what you think.

00:13:03.000 I mean, I think it is a big deal.

00:13:04.000 We know that every congressional district is probably race based. 0.83

00:13:07.000 So I don't know what Pandora's box is open from this.

00:13:10.000 But I would say also at the same exact time, you know, if we want to win elections, it's always the left that uses all these redistricting and gerrymandering.

00:13:18.000 I feel like that's kind of what they're an expert in.

00:13:21.000 And if we want to win, we got to win because we are the more popular opinion.

00:13:25.000 We're the populist movement.

00:13:27.000 Like we don't need to worry about.

00:13:28.000 Gerrymandering, and we just have to overcome it.

00:13:32.000 I know that sounds whatever cliche or too anecdotal.

00:13:35.000 I just don't think this is as big a deal for some reason because I feel like the district's already gerrymandered anyway.

00:13:39.000 And I just don't know if they change that much if we lose how many different seats.

00:13:43.000 Do you think it'll be 30 seats?

00:13:44.000 Have you looked at Louisiana's map, bro? 0.99

00:13:47.000 Well, I figured it's probably all race based, but I mean, you're gonna.

00:13:50.000 So, Louisiana, this case alone has just eliminated two Democrat districts right now.

00:13:55.000 It's done. 0.98

00:13:56.000 Well, that's good.

00:13:57.000 That is good.

00:13:58.000 Then it seems like it's a good thing, but I also know that.

00:14:00.000 You know, they try to redistrict part of California and now they're going to get more Democrat seats in Congress.

00:14:05.000 Indeed.

00:14:07.000 What we might end up seeing right now is a cascade effect where every blue state.

00:14:13.000 Actually, let me put it like this.

00:14:13.000 Here's the problem.

00:14:14.000 I'd say blue states will redistrict, but the problem is blue states are almost already gerrymandered to the point of giving Democrats extra seats.

00:14:22.000 You take a look at Massachusetts 36% Republican, zero Republican seats.

00:14:27.000 That didn't make any sense.

00:14:28.000 You take a look at Illinois.

00:14:30.000 Let me pull up Illinois's Matt.

00:14:31.000 For you.

00:14:31.000 It does happen in the conservative side more, where it's a more conservative state, but then they have less, you know, less representation.

00:14:38.000 Well, no, because the VRA, the red states, have weird race based gerrymandered districts.

00:14:43.000 Look at Illinois 13.

00:14:46.000 They intentionally created a strip.

00:14:47.000 Could you imagine you live in like some rural middle of Illinois town, but they just have this line of fire going over your house to put you in a Democrat district?

00:14:58.000 Look at this Rockford and Bloomington and Peoria.

00:15:00.000 They create this weird strip that wraps around so they can get these Democrat districts and make a fake congressional district.

00:15:07.000 Let me show you what Louisiana looks like.

00:15:10.000 This is what ultimately lost.

00:15:12.000 Look at the sixth and the second district. 0.99

00:15:15.000 Is that not the dumbest district you've ever seen? 0.97

00:15:17.000 And they got the biggest cities, Trueport, Baton Rouge, and New Orleans. 0.99

00:15:20.000 Indeed. 0.98

00:15:21.000 These were drawn up based on race and they have to eliminate them.

00:15:24.000 And now the expectation is when they redraw this, there will be no Democrat districts in Louisiana.

00:15:30.000 Obama tweeted out about this.

00:15:32.000 He has kind of the counter opinion about protecting minorities and making sure they still have a voice in the Republic.

00:15:38.000 Because back in the day, I think that a lot of this stems from back when they would block bust and all the rich white dudes, because they came from money in the 1890s or whatever, and the black people had been mostly descended of slavery, so they didn't have as much money.

00:15:50.000 The white rich dudes would get together and be like, No one can move in. 0.90

00:15:53.000 We're not, it's technically, we're not doing it on purpose, but we'll just say no to any black people that want to move in. 0.98

00:15:59.000 So they would make them all, it's called blockbusting. 1.00

00:16:01.000 They make them all move out.

00:16:02.000 So then the district is this 15 block radius of rich white dudes controlling.

00:16:07.000 And so they had to like carve out, or they felt like they had to empower the people that lived in the dregs on the outskirts.

00:16:14.000 But it's been, it's like the balloon's been inflated and bubbled so many times that it just popped.

00:16:19.000 Like that, the insanity is observant at this point.

00:16:23.000 If they eliminate.

00:16:26.000 VRA districts.

00:16:27.000 This is what the South will look like.

00:16:29.000 Wow.

00:16:30.000 That's huge.

00:16:31.000 Do you think this is likely to happen because an everyday citizen can put forth the lawsuit as opposed to expecting Republican operatives to do it?

00:16:38.000 That's the key right there is that anybody.

00:16:41.000 So if you live in a racially gerrymandered district, you have standing.

00:16:46.000 You are aggrieved now under this unconstitutional action.

00:16:49.000 It still will come down to how the state responds.

00:16:51.000 The attorneys general are going to be presented with an interesting conundrum.

00:16:54.000 So for those who are not familiar how this works, If you go to a state, or if you live in a state that you have a problem with, let's say you have a problem with your state, and you're like, I'm going to sue the state.

00:17:05.000 The lawsuit goes to the attorney general of that state, who then determines whether or not he's going to defend the state from the action.

00:17:11.000 There are many instances where the attorney general might say, you know what?

00:17:16.000 I actually can't win this case.

00:17:18.000 And so let's say you sue your state's power agency or whatever, and you've got something like, hey, the fees that they've put forward on electric.

00:17:30.000 Or regulatory fees they've added to electric bills from these private companies.

00:17:33.000 They're unconstitutional.

00:17:34.000 The attorney general reads it and goes, Okay.

00:17:37.000 He then goes to the regulatory agency and says, I will lose if I try to defend you on this one.

00:17:43.000 I can try to defend you on it, but I'm going to tell you, we will just waste money and it's not going to happen.

00:17:48.000 More importantly, if the governor tells the attorney general not to defend it, it's just done.

00:17:53.000 So if various political action groups or individuals file lawsuits in these districts saying they are known racially gerrymandered VRA districts, there is still the prove it.

00:18:04.000 What is the grounds by which these are determined to be?

00:18:07.000 And they may try to make that argument in court.

00:18:09.000 Okay, you got to prove it in court.

00:18:10.000 This district came about because of this.

00:18:12.000 May actually be very easy to prove, considering Democrats' attempts to defend them have already created this pretext where they've said, We did it for this reason.

00:18:22.000 Obama's quote right now about how this is about fighting back against Jim Crow. 0.92

00:18:25.000 Okay, agreed. 0.99

00:18:27.000 Now you got to get rid of him.

00:18:28.000 If the governors, the state legislatures just say, You're right, they tell the attorney general, We're not going to defend it.

00:18:35.000 More importantly, The state could just do it.

00:18:38.000 The state could then, the governor could say, look, we just heard what the Supreme Court said.

00:18:41.000 We have no choice.

00:18:42.000 We're redrawing these maps.

00:18:44.000 So, I do think that this is more likely to happen because private individuals now have standing to take action.

00:18:53.000 Whether or not it'll happen fast enough, I don't know, but I kind of think the reason this is happening is intentional in the Republican playbook.

00:19:00.000 They went after the VRA intentionally because they want to win the midterms based on redrawing maps.

00:19:07.000 That's why Trump told Texas to redraw.

00:19:09.000 Democrats are responding.

00:19:12.000 The issue for Democrats is many of The blue states are already gerrymandered to oblivion, like I showed you with Illinois.

00:19:17.000 So they won't be able to gain as much as Republicans can in this war if Republicans go all the way.

00:19:24.000 So, timing wise, you think they picked now for that specific reason or should they have waited longer?

00:19:29.000 I think they chose now for the specific reason that there is very little time to reverse any decision.

00:19:36.000 You've got six months, meaning it's a rush job to flip these states and go plus 12.

00:19:44.000 By the time this is resolved, the election will be right in front of us.

00:19:47.000 I do think we have an interesting conundrum in what happens if someone files a suit right now, it is not resolved by the time the election happens, and then after the election, a court issues a ruling that it was an unconstitutional district and must be redrawn.

00:20:03.000 They'll have to have special elections.

00:20:05.000 So, hypothetically, there's a scenario where in February of next year, we're having another series of 20 or 30 congressional races due to the resolution coming after the election.

00:20:15.000 I think that helps the conservatives.

00:20:17.000 I agree because it.

00:20:20.000 How do you induct a new member of Congress when they're like a judge just issued a ruling that your seat is unconstitutional?

00:20:28.000 Then what ends up happening is the existing Congress says, We're not going to swear you in because you're not a member of Congress.

00:20:33.000 Your seat's unconstitutional.

00:20:35.000 This is going to be a weird scenario.

00:20:37.000 Now, there is still the very high probability, literally nothing happens.

00:20:41.000 Yeah.

00:20:41.000 I mean, maybe I'm just jaded, but that's, I'm just, you know, I'm not a nothing ever happens person.

00:20:45.000 I'm a nothing ever changes person.

00:20:47.000 And I understand that, like, For a lot of time, when you're jaded about this type of stuff, I'm like, it just doesn't seem like we're going to see plus 12.

00:20:53.000 Except for the fact that Texas already did, California already did, and Virginia just voted on it.

00:20:59.000 So to say I don't think it's going to happen when we are currently in the war.

00:21:03.000 Texas was Republicans gerrymandered.

00:21:06.000 But the idea here is that most of the left is already on it.

00:21:06.000 Indeed.

00:21:10.000 Republicans.

00:21:11.000 Well, take a look at this.

00:21:12.000 This is a viral meme.

00:21:14.000 Massachusetts, 36% Republican, no seats.

00:21:16.000 Connecticut, 42, zero seats.

00:21:18.000 Maine, 46.

00:21:19.000 Actually, Maine has one district.

00:21:23.000 New, uh, uh, was that New Mexico?

00:21:25.000 None.

00:21:26.000 New Hampshire?

00:21:26.000 None.

00:21:27.000 These are these states are all one third to one half Republican with no congressional seats.

00:21:31.000 So California is able to squeeze a few out.

00:21:34.000 Virginia, of course, is trying to put five congressional districts in Fairfax County, which would eliminate the state's going to eliminate four Republican seats. 0.50

00:21:42.000 But Republicans can gain upwards of 30.

00:21:44.000 Democrats can gain, I think, like 10.

00:21:46.000 Yeah.

00:21:46.000 So ultimately, we end up with on the in the middle of the road Republicans being plus 20.

00:21:53.000 There was just something always so depressing to me about being like the Republicans in California and they're like, We're going to squeeze a few more seats out of you as if they haven't already been beaten down enough out there.

00:22:04.000 That Virginia, they really showed the vulnerability and the way it had been being legalized in Virginia, what they tried to do.

00:22:13.000 How did they split the, was it Alexandria?

00:22:16.000 Fairfax County.

00:22:16.000 They tried to split it into five.

00:22:17.000 Fairfax?

00:22:18.000 Yeah. 0.96

00:22:18.000 They tried to split it into five different districts. 0.96

00:22:20.000 Yeah.

00:22:20.000 They did.

00:22:21.000 Then their own Supreme Court.

00:22:21.000 They have five districts with thin, tiny strips stretching into just Fairfax County.

00:22:26.000 I think you're right.

00:22:27.000 It's going to be hard to prove that it's done for race.

00:22:29.000 The thing that's not true.

00:22:30.000 How do you prove that?

00:22:31.000 Because historically, it's in the historical record.

00:22:33.000 That's the point.

00:22:34.000 They were literally saying this.

00:22:36.000 So the issue is that when these states drew these maps, they were told explicitly you must draw them based on race.

00:22:41.000 Based on that precedent, they're going to say, we have to redraw.

00:22:44.000 And how are you going to challenge yourself?

00:22:45.000 They're just reversing the precedent that was already set.

00:22:47.000 We used to call, in fact, they're turning it.

00:22:49.000 They're not only reversing it and undoing it, they're like turning it around and forcing a different direction, I think.

00:22:53.000 We used to call affirmative action in like high school.

00:22:57.000 This is like in the mid 90s.

00:22:58.000 We'd be like, isn't that reverse racism?

00:23:00.000 That if a guy who's not as qualified as me, but as a black guy, gets the job instead of me, who is better, isn't that?

00:23:07.000 And they're like, no, no, no.

00:23:08.000 It's not reverse racism, bro.

00:23:09.000 It's racism.

00:23:10.000 And like, I do understand like lifting up people that didn't have.

00:23:15.000 Much growing coming up, but like you want to help out marginalized communities, but to a point, like I'm not going to stomp on my own foot to make my other foot, you know, run faster.

00:23:24.000 Like, I agree.

00:23:26.000 I mean, I feel like that's a lot of what it is.

00:23:28.000 It's toxic empathy, basically.

00:23:30.000 Like, we're just trying to help people to hurt ourselves, you know.

00:23:33.000 If Republicans pull this off and actually flip the VRA seats, the makeup of Congress will be Republican 247 to Democrat 182 and one independent.

00:23:43.000 What makes me when you said nothing happens, that was a weird kind of I was like, it just seems such an extreme change that it can't.

00:23:49.000 Like the way the world seems to work is slow change from my perspective.

00:23:53.000 Oh, it's gradual then sudden.

00:23:55.000 I've heard that too.

00:23:56.000 In fact, what's his name from Black?

00:23:57.000 Look at cell phones.

00:23:59.000 Yeah, stuff, it does happen like that.

00:24:01.000 The internet emerges in the late 80s and enters into common parlance in the early 90s, but not particularly ubiquitous.

00:24:10.000 By the late 90s, everyone I knew was online every time they weren't out doing something.

00:24:14.000 You came home, you went on the computer.

00:24:16.000 By 2008, the internet was in everyone's pocket all at once.

00:24:19.000 Over the span of one year, the internet went from something that took 15 years.

00:24:23.000 To see adoption to instantly, everyone had it 247.

00:24:26.000 I mean, wasn't that like closer to 2012?

00:24:28.000 Like with the iPhone 4?

00:24:30.000 Like 2007 was the introduction.

00:24:32.000 The iPhone 3, but like it wasn't mass adopted until people had like the iPhone 4.

00:24:36.000 No, that was the iPhone was the introduction of ubiquitous internet.

00:24:40.000 3GS was when it started kicking.

00:24:42.000 But that's not every, I guess I'm just, it's a semantic.

00:24:44.000 It's like not everybody.

00:24:46.000 The term being used is ubiquity.

00:24:48.000 Literally everybody had one.

00:24:48.000 Yeah, we were like.

00:24:50.000 Community online with the internet.

00:24:50.000 That was the beginning, at which point mass adoption skyrocketed.

00:24:56.000 In one year, it's a jump of double digit percentage year over year.

00:25:00.000 And over the course of 15 years, I mean, going to 2008, you have the course of about 15 years of people slowly adopting the internet and arguments being made it will not take over.

00:25:10.000 To then, within the span of two years, everybody has it.

00:25:12.000 This, oh, go ahead.

00:25:14.000 Oh, this seems like a situation where people are like, what, nine people are trying to decide for 100, 500,000 people how to live their life.

00:25:23.000 You mean one person decides for 775,000?

00:25:26.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:25:27.000 Well, with the Supreme Court, because I often think like, Okay, I like the Supreme Court. 1.00

00:25:31.000 I like that it exists, but at the same time, six stodgy bastards can't just like decide that I have to go smell poop. 1.00

00:25:37.000 It's nine. 0.99

00:25:38.000 It's nine, but six of them can make a decision.

00:25:39.000 You're ignoring the appellate courts and the lower district courts, in which there are thousands.

00:25:44.000 Not ignoring, but like these top down authority does make like nine people.

00:25:48.000 That's a very small number of people that can get corrupted, you know?

00:25:51.000 So it's you're putting a lot of faith in these nine people to make the right decision.

00:25:55.000 But again, it's not nine, it's thousands.

00:25:57.000 I'm just talking about the Supreme Court.

00:25:59.000 But the Supreme Court doesn't hear every single case ever.

00:26:01.000 Mm hmm.

00:26:01.000 No, but when it does and it makes a drastic decision that changes society, I think if you have a grievance with that, you're okay to investigate that grievance.

00:26:10.000 What would be the appropriate number of people to make that decision?

00:26:13.000 He wants to pack the Supreme Court, I can tell already.

00:26:16.000 Oh, man.

00:26:16.000 I do.

00:26:17.000 You do want to pack it?

00:26:18.000 Of course.

00:26:19.000 If they can work fast enough to do it with just conservative judges.

00:26:22.000 Yeah. 0.80

00:26:23.000 Just clone.

00:26:24.000 Honestly, you don't got to be conservative.

00:26:26.000 It's just not communists.

00:26:27.000 Yeah.

00:26:28.000 If you're not a communist, it's fine.

00:26:29.000 And the argument made for why is that there are 13 federal districts.

00:26:35.000 They're not called districts.

00:26:36.000 They're called something else.

00:26:39.000 When we created the Supreme Court, there were nine.

00:26:41.000 So we created a Supreme Court justice for each of the nine.

00:26:43.000 Then when we added four more, we never added any new justices.

00:26:46.000 We just doubled some up.

00:26:47.000 So that's the argument that's been presented for a long time as to why we need to add new justices because the country got bigger and we never did.

00:26:53.000 Democrats are going to do it.

00:26:54.000 We better do it before them.

00:26:56.000 Can I ask you a question?

00:26:57.000 So you mentioned Roe v. Wade earlier.

00:26:59.000 How has abortion in this country changed? 0.90

00:27:02.000 It's completely illegal in Oklahoma now. 0.98

00:27:05.000 Texas, too.

00:27:06.000 Yeah, Texas.

00:27:07.000 But I'm saying, like, people's attitudes towards it have changed.

00:27:10.000 I still see people give statistics saying, like, People are aborting babies at just as high a rate before.

00:27:15.000 You can't do it in Texas, Oklahoma, or I think what, Louisiana and Arkansas.

00:27:20.000 It was under the Supreme Court ruling of Roe v. Wade, they could not make it illegal.

00:27:24.000 They could put certain restrictions on it.

00:27:26.000 Roe v. Wade is overturned, and overnight, there were several states that had, what are they called?

00:27:32.000 Texas had the Harvey Bill.

00:27:34.000 There are laws that are in place that as soon as the Supreme Court precedent changed, they instantly went into effect.

00:27:39.000 Okay, so that, I guess, my point is more so is there something similar that was kind of my?

00:27:43.000 Point, I was drawing comparison to what just happened here.

00:27:46.000 Is there something similar that could happen in like the span of just one night that will happen?

00:27:51.000 Yeah, right now, someone can file a lawsuit.

00:27:53.000 A regular fat, middle aged guy.

00:27:55.000 Yes, absolutely.

00:27:56.000 I bet as soon as the news broke, there were a bunch of NGOs that already had the lawsuits drafted and ready to go because this is a very obvious GOP play to win the midterms.

00:28:06.000 Like the strategy is obvious.

00:28:08.000 We want to get rid of the VRA.

00:28:09.000 Now, it's funny as Republicans are cheering for SCOTUS not getting rid of the VRA because under this opinion, it's narrow.

00:28:17.000 What's being argued is now the Republicans can actually use the VRA to get rid of any districts that they feel is racially gerrymandered.

00:28:26.000 So if they got rid of it, then it's okay, well, just don't do it again.

00:28:30.000 But with it still intact, you can now have some middle aged, you know, fat white guy who makes $30,000 a year say he can go to a nonprofit and be like, yeah, sue on behalf of me because they're discriminating against me for being white.

00:28:41.000 Okay, well, VRA says you can't do that.

00:28:45.000 There it is.

00:28:46.000 Yeah, I mean, honestly, race shouldn't impact how you vote.

00:28:49.000 It shouldn't.

00:28:50.000 Can we just pause real quick and just think about the degree of absurdity that at some point in this country they said we should have members of Congress whose standing in Congress is based just on their skin color?

00:29:05.000 That's like the antithesis of this country.

00:29:07.000 That's the antithesis of what civil rights was supposed to be.

00:29:10.000 It's the antithesis of civil rights. 1.00

00:29:11.000 We had a vice president based on the fact that she was multicultural and a woman. 0.91

00:29:16.000 She was a Supreme Court justice. 0.99

00:29:17.000 Multicultural. 1.00

00:29:19.000 I don't want to call her black because she's not really black. 0.98

00:29:22.000 She was a woman, of course. 0.99

00:29:26.000 The Supreme Court doesn't hear every single case.

00:29:29.000 Sometimes, when a case goes for the Supreme Court, they look at it and go, We have nothing to say about this and reject it.

00:29:35.000 Are the other courts beholden to states or are they like federally bound?

00:29:39.000 It's federal for federal law.

00:29:40.000 Do they all work out of D.C.?

00:29:42.000 They're in states, but they do federal stuff.

00:29:42.000 No.

00:29:44.000 They're all over the country.

00:29:45.000 New York.

00:29:46.000 Yeah, so the big controversy with the initial birthright citizenship suit to the Supreme Court, Trump's administration argued not on the citizenship question.

00:29:57.000 But on the universal injunction question, because for a long time, judges in this country had insane authority.

00:30:05.000 You could be a lower court federal judge who handles specifically the Washington area.

00:30:11.000 And what actually happened is that the Trump administration said no more transgenders in the military.

00:30:18.000 They get sued by three transgender individuals in different jurisdictions.

00:30:24.000 The result is they get an injunction.

00:30:28.000 So there's an injunction issued saying, Trump, you can't bar transgenders.

00:30:32.000 So, your executive order no longer applies.

00:30:35.000 Trump then appeals the higher court, the appellate court says, No, Trump has final say on who can.

00:30:42.000 His ban on transgenders will stand.

00:30:45.000 Instantly, another judge in a lower court issued another injunction, at which case, now you've got two separate injunctions one appeal staying that injunction, but another judge being active.

00:30:57.000 And the Trump administration asked the Supreme Court, How can we have 400 plus lower court judges?

00:31:04.000 All issuing injunctions on literally every single person in the class without establishing class.

00:31:10.000 And the Supreme Court said, correct, they cannot.

00:31:12.000 This means that if you sue, and this is actually a nuclear bomb as well, if you sue because Trump says no long haired freaky people in the military, and then Ian goes, well, I'm a long haired freaky person, so I'm suing.

00:31:25.000 Remedy can only apply to you.

00:31:27.000 They can no longer issue injunctions for anyone who's like you.

00:31:31.000 Oh.

00:31:31.000 Yep.

00:31:32.000 Only the Supreme Court, technically. 1.00

00:31:34.000 So the transgender people that would be. 1.00

00:31:36.000 Kicked out of the military due to his rule, then they win. 0.99

00:31:38.000 Congratulations.

00:31:38.000 They could get some money from themselves, but they wouldn't show up.

00:31:40.000 They wouldn't get money.

00:31:41.000 They get admitted.

00:31:41.000 So those three people would be allowed to go in if they win, but nobody else.

00:31:45.000 Which there was another interesting case that happened, which is really funny based on that ruling.

00:31:49.000 I forgot what the case was.

00:31:49.000 It was a few months ago.

00:31:51.000 Some libs sued the Trump administration and won on something that should be precedent setting.

00:31:56.000 And the Trump administration said, okay, you win.

00:32:01.000 They refused to issue an appeal, meaning that the three plaintiffs in the case got their remedy, but no one else did.

00:32:07.000 Oh, this was an immigration issue.

00:32:09.000 Some people were suing over birthright citizenship, I think, won their case.

00:32:13.000 Normally, what would happen is the government would then appeal to bring it to the higher court.

00:32:17.000 They said, okay, you three people can have your immigration status.

00:32:22.000 But nobody else.

00:32:23.000 Because if they had appealed it, then everyone could have gotten it.

00:32:25.000 Because it could get to the Supreme Court, which would then issue a nationwide precedent.

00:32:30.000 Yeah.

00:32:31.000 Good strategy.

00:32:31.000 Yep.

00:32:32.000 So they're just like, okay, every single one of you will not have to sue unless a class is established.

00:32:38.000 And that's what they're trying to do.

00:32:40.000 So, they have to establish a class and justification for why that class exists.

00:32:43.000 So, could people that are suing their states be like, hey, we as white people demand you redress these or redraw these gerrymander lines?

00:32:54.000 Yes. 0.62

00:32:55.000 And the class would be white people?

00:32:57.000 Well, literally be a thing?

00:32:58.000 I don't know. 0.99

00:33:00.000 White people are already a protected class under the 1964 Civil Rights Act. 1.00

00:33:05.000 Better be. 1.00

00:33:06.000 The issue right now is if you live in a district that is known to have been protected, Created specifically under the VRA, you have legal standing to sue because it's violating your constitutional rights.

00:33:16.000 I, this is spectacular information, but I want to hear Alex Stein talk about aliens all night.

00:33:23.000 I don't know about you guys.

00:33:24.000 I still want to talk about this more.

00:33:25.000 Elon and Ashley St. Clair and like baby.

00:33:29.000 What are we doing here?

00:33:30.000 Pull up Alex.

00:33:31.000 Well, we got one more story to get to before we talk about Elon making babies on Mars.

00:33:34.000 We got this from the Washington Post.

00:33:36.000 Florida has approved its redistricting plan intended to give GOP four more seats.

00:33:42.000 So let me do something really interesting.

00:33:44.000 I want to pull up 270 to win.

00:33:46.000 And show you where it gets real weird, real weird.

00:33:50.000 We pull up the house interactive map and we can take a look at this.

00:33:54.000 270 to win is already using Virginia's map.

00:33:58.000 Even though, oh, I got to reset this.

00:33:58.000 Oh, Jesus.

00:34:01.000 Even though, can you reset for me?

00:34:03.000 A court has already ruled they're not allowing it.

00:34:07.000 270 to win still considers these to be the official districts of Virginia.

00:34:11.000 Can we just do this?

00:34:12.000 Can you just look at this?

00:34:14.000 Five districts.

00:34:14.000 Look at this.

00:34:16.000 Look at this pathetic little thing right here. 1.00

00:34:18.000 Look at that. 0.99

00:34:18.000 It's probably like two feet. 0.99

00:34:20.000 There's like two feet of district right there.

00:34:22.000 Isn't that amazing?

00:34:24.000 It's all water. 0.53

00:34:25.000 So, you've got all of these thin strips stretching into Fairfax County, so they can artificially create five Democrat seats.

00:34:35.000 Now, Florida is going to redistrict, and that's just the first step.

00:34:39.000 That map we showed in the previous segment, I don't know if I have it pulled up still.

00:34:44.000 Do we have, maybe it was, where was it?

00:34:47.000 Here we go.

00:34:49.000 This map includes Louisiana and Florida.

00:34:51.000 So, if we eliminate two and four, this means between these other states, there are six seats that can be flipped.

00:34:58.000 So, what do you guys think?

00:35:01.000 Is this hypocrisy?

00:35:02.000 We're all complaining about Virginia, but Republicans are doing it all the same?

00:35:06.000 I mean, technically, yes.

00:35:06.000 Yes.

00:35:07.000 I mean, but this is literally, yes.

00:35:09.000 Isn't this the argument that happens every time whenever they talk about ending the filibuster?

00:35:13.000 They say, do it now, otherwise they're going to do it to you.

00:35:16.000 See, the thing is, Democrats do do, and Republicans don't do.

00:35:21.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:35:22.000 Like, the conservatives concern themselves with concepts like hypocrisy, and political operatives do not concern themselves with stuff like that.

00:35:29.000 Like, going to the Comey thing, too, is like, Wrapping all this lawfare and war into one big picture.

00:35:35.000 We talked about it last night.

00:35:37.000 Donald Trump was charged with a crime because his lawyer claimed he could read Trump's mind.

00:35:44.000 Cohen's like, I thought Trump wanted me to do bad things, so I did.

00:35:48.000 And then they're like, okay, Trump, you're under arrest.

00:35:51.000 If that's the standard Democrats are using, I say just run them over.

00:35:54.000 All that aside, the one you showed with like the 48% of people were Republican, but they had zero seats in the state. 0.79

00:36:02.000 It was kind of ridiculous to look at.

00:36:04.000 Yeah. 0.64

00:36:04.000 Just off of the stats a little bit. 0.64

00:36:05.000 There you go.

00:36:06.000 Kind of wild.

00:36:06.000 This is what Democrats do when they have power and Republicans don't.

00:36:10.000 Are there inverse situations where there's 38, 48% Democrats and they have no seats in certain states?

00:36:16.000 Just because big cities.

00:36:17.000 No, to be fair, probably.

00:36:18.000 But the thing about Republicans, red states, is that they're less populated, so you don't have major urban centers.

00:36:24.000 The issue with Massachusetts, the example that I'll give you is in Illinois, they intentionally connect urban centers to create districts.

00:36:32.000 In Massachusetts, they intentionally do not.

00:36:34.000 So, they can take out the political voice of the rural Republican.

00:36:41.000 So, with Massachusetts, you have dense urban pockets.

00:36:44.000 So, they take all the rural areas and connect them to the urban pocket so it turns blue.

00:36:50.000 In Illinois, you have small urban pockets.

00:36:53.000 So, they create thin strips to create, to combine them to create one Democrat district.

00:36:58.000 If the Democrats did the same thing in Massachusetts, they would connect the cities, creating rural Republican districts, but they don't do that.

00:37:04.000 They intentionally do this.

00:37:07.000 So, maximum warfare, right?

00:37:09.000 So, Hakeem Jeffries said. 0.62

00:37:10.000 And when asked if he shouldn't have said that, he says, I don't give a damn. 0.57

00:37:15.000 Oh, he's lost his patience. 1.00

00:37:17.000 That's a stupid question. 1.00

00:37:18.000 I don't think these people had patience to begin with. 1.00

00:37:20.000 I think they are, I think they're communists.

00:37:26.000 And I'm not saying literally every Democrat voter is a communist.

00:37:28.000 I'm saying when you look at the ethos of communists, Democrat politicians hold it.

00:37:33.000 And this is funny.

00:37:35.000 I was watching a video about the original Animal Farm, considering all the Animal Farm hubbub.

00:37:38.000 Oh, Angel Studios.

00:37:39.000 Shout out Angel Studios.

00:37:41.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:37:42.000 But the original Animal Farm, it's really interesting. 0.98

00:37:45.000 The reason Orwell chose the pigs to be the leaders is that pigs are smart.

00:37:48.000 The reason he chose the dogs to be the guards is because dogs are not as smart, but smart.

00:37:52.000 And then the pack animals are hard workers, but not very smart. 1.00

00:37:56.000 The point he was making was that in a communist takeover, the smarter people steal power to manipulate the stupid. 0.99

00:38:04.000 And he brought up the point of Boxer, the horse representing the industrious working class who truly believes in the revolution and just does whatever they're told. 0.99

00:38:13.000 Then the moment they are no longer useful, instead of getting their just desserts, they're sold off to a glue factory. 0.94

00:38:21.000 Well, Machiavelli, he said it best, is that most people are good, but the people in power, most of the time, are not good because they had to do something to get in power.

00:38:30.000 Like they had to do something, cut throat, or something bad.

00:38:33.000 Like the deal I did with Netanyahu. 0.78

00:38:34.000 You know, to actually kiss the wall.

00:38:36.000 You haven't kissed it yet, but I know you're going to get close to it.

00:38:39.000 That's sort of an argument for monarchy or at least hereditary rule.

00:38:43.000 The child that didn't ask for it receives the power.

00:38:46.000 He's like, I don't want this, but I'll do my best with it.

00:38:48.000 Like Kim Jong Un, for instance.

00:38:50.000 Yeah, or his daughter.

00:38:52.000 Pretty sure he wanted it.

00:38:53.000 Did he?

00:38:54.000 He had to have his uncle for 99.9% of the vote. 1.00

00:38:57.000 Can you imagine a 12 year old chubby little Korean guy being like, kill him? 1.00

00:39:01.000 The crazy thing is, if you were 12 and your dad died and all his buddies come with you, you're like, your uncle's going to kill you if you don't have him killed right now. 1.00

00:39:08.000 And you're like, I'm 12.

00:39:09.000 And they're like, trust us.

00:39:11.000 And you're like, okay.

00:39:11.000 Oh, that's the way it always was.

00:39:12.000 And if he fled, they'd kill him wherever he went. 0.98

00:39:15.000 Yep. 0.90

00:39:16.000 And so they turn this 12 year old into a forced maniac essentially to survive. 0.81

00:39:20.000 That's why they kill Tsar Nicholas.

00:39:22.000 Because he tried to run away?

00:39:24.000 No. 0.81

00:39:25.000 At first, the Bolsheviks lock them up and they're like, listen, we're taking over. 0.67

00:39:31.000 We don't want to kill you or hurt you. 0.94

00:39:33.000 So just chill here. 0.95

00:39:34.000 We're in charge now.

00:39:35.000 And then it was some time later, they shut up and said, the people are worried that if you're still alive and your kids are alive, they may try to make a claim for rightful governance. 1.00

00:39:45.000 So bang, bang, kill this kid, kill this whole family. 1.00

00:39:50.000 That's what commies do. 1.00

00:39:52.000 Commies do it. 1.00

00:39:53.000 Yeah, they had them sequestered.

00:39:54.000 You know what else communists do?

00:39:56.000 They wear. 0.64

00:39:57.000 Your traditions and institutions like skin suits. 0.94

00:40:00.000 Yuri Bezmanov warned us about this. 0.99

00:40:02.000 They will infiltrate your institutions, they will twist them and burn them down.

00:40:07.000 They will do things like they will reimagine your traditional art in ways that is shockingly offensive and then infiltrate your conservative institutions to push that pro communist message upon you.

00:40:20.000 And they'll pay your own friends to promote it, and your friends will do it with a smile on their face. 0.63

00:40:25.000 Was Hitler just like, really? 0.88

00:40:27.000 His main thing was, I hate communists.

00:40:29.000 Was that his main thing?

00:40:30.000 It was anti communism.

00:40:31.000 We were talking about this before.

00:40:32.000 He didn't like gypsies very much.

00:40:33.000 He thought gypsies communists.

00:40:35.000 Part of it is that they were occultists who thought that they were part of some other race of people or something.

00:40:39.000 There was a lot there, dude.

00:40:41.000 The Red Scare was permeable in Germany, though.

00:40:44.000 They were really afraid and angry at communists. 0.77

00:40:46.000 They were a lot of that.

00:40:47.000 Well, they thought that one group of people would never be satisfied with enough and they needed to get rid of those people for their own.

00:40:56.000 This is the thing, though.

00:40:57.000 The communists and the fascists.

00:41:00.000 The principal difference between these groups, and I don't mean any specific fascistic political organization with an ethos or a mandate.

00:41:07.000 I'm saying the general idea is progressivism versus traditionalism.

00:41:12.000 They're both authoritarian groups that generally believe you must eliminate the undesirables.

00:41:18.000 The question is the structure of culture.

00:41:20.000 So the communists want to eliminate tradition and blank slate everything, and the fascists want to uphold tradition and have, you know, like traditional human.

00:41:30.000 Force people to say the Pledge of Allegiance, for instance.

00:41:32.000 No, that's not really it. 0.95

00:41:35.000 It's more like no porn, no gambling, men and women get married, no gay stuff. 0.96

00:41:40.000 And communists are like, humans are blank slates that can be or do anything you program them to be. 1.00

00:41:46.000 Both groups ultimately want to kill. 0.65

00:41:49.000 You remember that?

00:41:49.000 All the books about transgenderism he burned?

00:41:51.000 That one night they did a huge book burning.

00:41:54.000 But you mean just in general in society?

00:41:56.000 I'm just saying, like that was.

00:41:57.000 I know. 0.72

00:41:58.000 Hitler, if you identify him with the modern era, a lot of the puritanical mindset was like, In that guy, and like, how pure do you want your society? 0.58

00:41:58.000 That's the thing. 0.58

00:42:10.000 Only a little dirty, are only a little bit, yeah.

00:42:12.000 I know.

00:42:13.000 So, I always say, I hate communism, I don't hate communists. 0.99

00:42:15.000 Oh, I hate communists. 1.00

00:42:16.000 Are you nuts? 1.00

00:42:16.000 Like, they're misguided and can easily see the light if you show them. 1.00

00:42:19.000 We need to watch Animal Farm.

00:42:22.000 Well, the old one, not the old one.

00:42:24.000 Sometimes the kids that identify as communists are not that bad.

00:42:27.000 They're just kind of like, you know, brainwashed, I would say.

00:42:30.000 I think Ian has actually a point.

00:42:32.000 My question then to Ian, because I don't think you'd understand it, is Ian, when the Lich King stands atop the mountain, you can point to him and say, that is the Lich King, correct?

00:42:43.000 And you say, he is evil.

00:42:43.000 Yes.

00:42:44.000 I think so, yeah.

00:42:45.000 Right. 0.99

00:42:46.000 Now, when he turns the townspeople into mindless undead, Ravenous zombies that will kill you and the curse cannot be undone. 0.97

00:42:54.000 Do you just go, well, let them be? 0.67

00:42:57.000 I mean, I don't got a problem with them.

00:42:58.000 Remember, it's not Arthas that was the one, it was the Lich King himself. 0.62

00:43:02.000 Arthas is only subsumed by the people.

00:43:04.000 Arthas raised Stratholm because the people in it were converted to undead and they couldn't be saved.

00:43:10.000 Don't you forget it.

00:43:12.000 I think all souls can be reunited. 0.86

00:43:14.000 Let me just whittle through the esoteric garbage.

00:43:18.000 The story is that there was a kingdom. 0.50

00:43:21.000 Where the people had been poisoned with a disease and it was spreading.

00:43:27.000 So the king, well, it was the scourge.

00:43:31.000 But we don't want to get esoteric.

00:43:32.000 The point is this the story is a kingdom had been infected, the people were dying, and it was spreading.

00:43:37.000 So the king raised the whole world.

00:43:40.000 It was also, they were turning them into zombies.

00:43:42.000 I know, but we don't need to be overly specific.

00:43:44.000 They were becoming evil.

00:43:44.000 My point is this.

00:43:45.000 So he was like, I need to purge the town. 0.99

00:43:47.000 And the paladin's like, don't do it. 1.00

00:43:49.000 You can't do that. 1.00

00:43:50.000 That's too far, dude.

00:43:52.000 He's like, we're doing it.

00:43:52.000 And he's the king's son.

00:43:54.000 No, it is.

00:43:54.000 So they sacrifice these dying people so they don't.

00:43:57.000 That's why it's called the lynch pen. 0.76

00:43:58.000 Well, the lynch king.

00:44:00.000 Basically, that act of utilitarian evil, you might call it. 0.99

00:44:04.000 To protect reality made him become this.

00:44:04.000 The point is this.

00:44:08.000 In basic fantasy lore, there is a lich.

00:44:11.000 It is a conscious, undead entity, and it converts people to undead or makes them undead.

00:44:17.000 Like a zombie, just a zombie.

00:44:18.000 Well, so a zombie is mind control zombies, perhaps.

00:44:20.000 So the point I'm making with this, outside of the joking with Ian about fantasy stuff, I'm sure many people understood the fantasy reference.

00:44:26.000 If it doesn't, don't.

00:44:27.000 There are people in the Democratic Party that know full well what they're doing.

00:44:31.000 They understand they're manipulating people and they're lying and cheating for power. 0.69

00:44:34.000 And then there are regular working class people who have no idea what's going on, but believe in the cause and become NPC mindless zombies. 0.98

00:44:42.000 Some of them become violent, they become cogs in the machine. 0.98

00:44:45.000 The point I'm making is that we know the Democrats, allegory Lich King, are evil, intending to do evil things.

00:44:53.000 Not every single one of them.

00:44:54.000 I like Rokhana, I like Fetterman.

00:44:55.000 But the zombies on the ground are mindless.

00:44:58.000 You're not convincing them of anything.

00:45:00.000 You can't go to them and say, listen to me.

00:45:02.000 They're going, can't reason with them.

00:45:04.000 No.

00:45:05.000 Yeah.

00:45:06.000 Well, if you played Age of Empires, you know that a priest can.

00:45:09.000 A priest can turn you over to our side.

00:45:12.000 So glad you mentioned Federman.

00:45:13.000 Federman 2028.

00:45:14.000 I'm still on board.

00:45:15.000 I want to jump to this story right here.

00:45:18.000 And this is in light of.

00:45:19.000 Is it Ashley Sinclair?

00:45:19.000 Ashley Sinclair?

00:45:20.000 Is it Ashley Sinclair?

00:45:21.000 Ashley Sinclair?

00:45:22.000 Ashley, come back on, Ashley.

00:45:23.000 This story is in light of a recent report from the Wall Street Journal that claimed left wing violence only slightly.

00:45:30.000 Outpaced right wing violence.

00:45:32.000 Batya Unger Sargon addressed this in a long post as well as on News Nation, pointing out that these studies, like CSAS, Cato, and others, will claim that, let's say, like a white supremacist in his trailer in Arkansas gets up one day and goes to his next door neighbor to buy meth, and then a fight breaks out and he shoots him.

00:45:52.000 They call that right wing violence.

00:45:54.000 It's not.

00:45:56.000 They will claim, they did claim, that a white supremacist who punched his wife and was arrested for domestic abuse was right wing violence.

00:46:03.000 Well, I don't care about that because it's not meaningful to me.

00:46:06.000 That does not explain to me what is going on politically in this country.

00:46:11.000 So here's what I did.

00:46:12.000 Using Grok, ChatGPT, and Google, I searched for, and I did this over a couple of hours, all instances of political violence in the past 10 years where the motivations are known, clear, and commonly held political beliefs.

00:46:31.000 Boy, let me tell you, ChatGPT basically insulted me, attacked me, and refused to cooperate.

00:46:41.000 It kept saying things like, but Nazis are.

00:46:43.000 It was like, so the first thing it does is.

00:46:45.000 It's like, here's a list of politically motivated attacks, and it lists a bunch of neo Nazi violence, things that were not even well known or in the press.

00:46:53.000 And then I just simply asked, is neo Nazism a commonly held political belief?

00:46:57.000 And it went, no, it is not.

00:46:59.000 And then I said, okay, then we shouldn't include that in a graph talking about commonly held political beliefs that motivated people towards violence.

00:47:08.000 And it goes, right.

00:47:09.000 But if you do that, there is no right wing violence, literally what it told me.

00:47:13.000 And I said, well, I guess that's the case then.

00:47:16.000 So, I went through a huge list.

00:47:18.000 I had both Grok and ChatGPT pull up.

00:47:22.000 I personally fact checked.

00:47:24.000 I had some removed where I thought it was ambiguous on the left.

00:47:28.000 There are some instances of left wing violence where I don't know the motivation was clearly cut in a mainstream way.

00:47:34.000 However, as you all know, overwhelmingly, it's going to be the right wing attacks they claim that get removed.

00:47:41.000 In response to this, leftists have said, Why aren't you including neo Nazis?

00:47:45.000 To which I responded, No mainstream political personality or politician endorses those views and advocates for them.

00:47:54.000 So I don't care about the fringes that we've already condemned.

00:47:59.000 So we pulled up a list, and what do you get?

00:48:01.000 In the past 10 years, there have been 460 plus commonly held left aligned politically motivated attacks, and only one right wing aligned politically motivated attack.

00:48:13.000 Some people on the left say, What about that guy in Minnesota who killed those Democrats?

00:48:19.000 The motivation was not political.

00:48:21.000 It was interpersonal.

00:48:22.000 And even then, there is no clear cut, commonly held political belief that motivated him to do it.

00:48:29.000 The argument from the left is but he had some of those views.

00:48:33.000 That's great.

00:48:34.000 Did those views lead to the attack?

00:48:36.000 Some have mentioned the attack on Paul Pelosi.

00:48:39.000 DePap was not motivated by commonly held political views.

00:48:43.000 If a lunatic commits an act of violence, I don't care.

00:48:46.000 I didn't include in the left the killing of Irina Zarutska, but I could have. 1.00

00:48:51.000 It was a black guy who said, I got that, white bitch. 0.99

00:48:53.000 That would qualify the same as the neo Nazi attack. 1.00

00:48:56.000 I did not include those.

00:48:58.000 This is specifically, is the motivation something a Democrat or mainstream liberal pundit has said?

00:49:06.000 When the attack happened, was that their motivation?

00:49:08.000 Okay, well, then we include it in the list.

00:49:09.000 This means things like the George Floyd riots.

00:49:12.000 This means the killing of Charlie Kirk.

00:49:14.000 This means the ICE attacks.

00:49:16.000 This means the attack on the ICE facility in the Tacoma ICE facility where the guy yelled, I am Antifa.

00:49:23.000 So long as mainstream Democrats Defend Antifa and say they're just peaceful protesters or mostly peaceful protests, it's in the list.

00:49:33.000 Key takeaway from 2017 to 2026, verified politically motivated violence is overwhelmingly driven by left aligned extremist activity.

00:49:41.000 Right aligned violence is limited to a single major incident in the entire period.

00:49:46.000 What was it, by the way?

00:49:47.000 January 6th.

00:49:48.000 I suppose the big problem would be that the people on the left that don't really understand the way people on the right think because they see them as caricatures would assume that the people on the right do see neo Nazis as a Typical part of the political. 0.99

00:50:01.000 Well, they're retarded. 0.94

00:50:02.000 The point is this list is not for liberals. 0.98

00:50:04.000 This list is not to convince liberals.

00:50:07.000 This list is because I am sick and tired of conservatives arguing with liberals, and I hear the liberal go, the right wing's responsible for way more political violence.

00:50:17.000 And then the conservative goes, but that changed recently.

00:50:20.000 No, it didn't.

00:50:22.000 You can't take Cato's data and claim a meth head with no teeth, who no one's ever heard of, getting into a fight over meth is right wing violence.

00:50:30.000 More importantly, Charlie Kirk famously kicked white nationalists out of his events, all on camera saying, you are not welcome here.

00:50:37.000 So when they say right wing violence, what they Imagine there's a guy who believes that the moon is made of cheese and that NASA is importing all the cheese. 0.98

00:50:49.000 That's retarded, right? 0.98

00:50:51.000 Now imagine if he went to a school and kidnapped the principal and said he secretly works for NASA administering the cheese distribution from the moon and kills him. 0.99

00:51:01.000 Then Cato goes right wing violence.

00:51:03.000 That is not meaningful to me in any way to solve these problems.

00:51:08.000 The issue is conservatives keep using that as the basis for yes, the right.

00:51:13.000 Used to be violent.

00:51:14.000 Incorrect, they have not been. 0.70

00:51:16.000 If you used neo Nazis and you made another infographic with them, I'd be interested to see. 0.51

00:51:21.000 It would be, well, I could call neo Nazis left aligned because Graham Plattner is running as a Democrat. 0.92

00:51:26.000 Really?

00:51:26.000 It's like whenever this.

00:51:27.000 He had a Tottenham on his chest for 20 years.

00:51:29.000 Kind of like extremism is responsible for it, regardless of what side.

00:51:32.000 It's like that.

00:51:33.000 How about we do this?

00:51:34.000 Sorry, just real quick. 0.94

00:51:35.000 Racial identitarianism is more dominant on the left. 0.86

00:51:39.000 So neo Nazism should be included in left aligned because that's where racial identitarianism is. 0.79

00:51:46.000 Is pushed for in government. 0.70

00:51:47.000 They also, like, a lot of those studies would include, like, Islamist violence as right wing.

00:51:52.000 Indeed.

00:51:53.000 And they would include anti anything that was pro Palestine was removed from the list, but anything that was Islamist in general was right wing. 0.56

00:52:03.000 Yeah.

00:52:04.000 So if it was Islamist anti Israel, it's removed, but if it was Islamist general against the West, it was right wing. 0.61

00:52:11.000 Yeah. 0.86

00:52:11.000 Plus, we know that there's one side that makes excuses for Islamist violence. 0.86

00:52:15.000 I'm going to make this argument. 0.96

00:52:16.000 I'm going to ask you a question.

00:52:18.000 Which political party pushes for race based policies?

00:52:24.000 Which political party?

00:52:25.000 Generally, the Democratic Party has been.

00:52:27.000 Indeed. 0.59

00:52:28.000 So, when you're looking at the Democrats' push for POC only spaces, right?

00:52:35.000 They did this at the UC system in California. 0.92

00:52:37.000 They wanted race based dorm housing.

00:52:40.000 Do you think a Nazi would agree or disagree with the Democrats' plan for racially segregated dorm housing? 0.94

00:52:45.000 They would agree with it. 0.88

00:52:46.000 Then we should put every neo Nazi in left aligned. 0.75

00:52:48.000 Mm hmm.

00:52:50.000 Well, I mean, if you look at the Proud Boys, they think they're like the, you know, next coming of the actual Nazis.

00:52:57.000 And it was created by Gavin McInnes, a guy you've had on the show a bunch.

00:52:59.000 It was a joke.

00:53:00.000 Based on what Aladdin, right?

00:53:02.000 Yeah, or no, it was a different play.

00:53:03.000 It was called, like, Proud of Your Boy.

00:53:05.000 Yeah, it was a song from Aladdin, I think.

00:53:06.000 Is that what it was?

00:53:07.000 But I'm saying it started off as a joke, and they literally thought it was the biggest domestic terrorist organization in America.

00:53:13.000 So I don't know.

00:53:14.000 It can't be.

00:53:14.000 It wasn't funded by the SPLC.

00:53:17.000 I don't know if it was.

00:53:17.000 I don't know.

00:53:18.000 I know that they didn't.

00:53:19.000 Allegations that they were the ones that went after Gavin the most.

00:53:22.000 So, but I don't know.

00:53:24.000 Did you see F 37?

00:53:25.000 Do you see who that was?

00:53:27.000 Got paid like $300,000, maybe?

00:53:29.000 They identified him.

00:53:30.000 Well, no, but they said he was organized.

00:53:32.000 F 9 became an informant to the DOJ, snitching on.

00:53:37.000 So, this is where things get crazy in the SPLC.

00:53:39.000 In their response, apparently they said that their F 9, that's what they're calling the person, their source informant, has flipped and is now an informant for the DOJ.

00:53:52.000 Indicating the criminal case is predicated upon a neo Nazi telling the feds they were actually getting me to do these crimes.

00:53:59.000 So, when they say, and all the Democrats are like, no, no, it's just an informant.

00:54:03.000 Actually, the informant told the DOJ apparently that they were paying him to commit the crimes and to do the hate.

00:54:08.000 So, this indictment doesn't come from nothing.

00:54:12.000 Do you think it was Richard Spencer or Nick Fuentes?

00:54:15.000 People are speculating on the internet that that was one of the names.

00:54:18.000 Nah.

00:54:19.000 You don't?

00:54:19.000 No, I don't think Fuentes is a Fed or anything like that.

00:54:22.000 Oh, you don't?

00:54:22.000 No, I don't think Spencer is either.

00:54:24.000 A lot of people do.

00:54:26.000 A lot of people like it.

00:54:27.000 I'm not even saying.

00:54:28.000 I'm not saying that, but I mean, that's a common.

00:54:30.000 You think it's weird that Nick and Candace abruptly just traveled to Rome at the same time?

00:54:33.000 That was kind of weird.

00:54:33.000 Italy?

00:54:34.000 But Nick's talking about it.

00:54:35.000 That's the exact same thing.

00:54:36.000 It's funny, though.

00:54:36.000 Do you see that guy trying to get him to move his car?

00:54:38.000 I saw it, but I didn't watch the video.

00:54:41.000 Yeah.

00:54:42.000 So Nick's got a video where he's like, no one's going to believe it.

00:54:45.000 Like, what are the chances that I go to Rome?

00:54:48.000 And on the same day, Candace abruptly just announces she's taking an impromptu vacation to Rome.

00:54:53.000 You didn't hear what Laura Loomer said.

00:54:54.000 It was because the Vatican invited them, because the Pope's beefing with Trump.

00:54:58.000 And so that's why the Pope is trying to get.

00:55:01.000 Candace and Nick are anti Trump.

00:55:03.000 Yes, that's what Laura Loomer said.

00:55:06.000 She speculated that.

00:55:07.000 Well, to be fair, I mean, Nick does live in Chicago, and this is.

00:55:07.000 I don't.

00:55:10.000 I know he is a Chicago Pope, and I think his brother still lives in the area.

00:55:14.000 And Nick would have to address it because everybody wants to know why they both went to Rome at the same time.

00:55:19.000 And the only thing he could say is it's a coincidence, I swear.

00:55:23.000 It is a weird coincidence.

00:55:24.000 I mean, no way, I don't believe it.

00:55:26.000 You think they're having a meeting with the Pope?

00:55:27.000 Oh, I don't know about me with the Pope.

00:55:29.000 I'm just saying it's not random that Nick and Candace both went to Rome at the exact same time abruptly.

00:55:36.000 Yeah, that's it.

00:55:36.000 I'm sorry.

00:55:37.000 I don't look.

00:55:38.000 And then, Candace, did you love that true social post from Trump of the AI image of her face looking horrible?

00:55:44.000 That was AI?

00:55:46.000 I mean, it wasn't a real picture.

00:55:46.000 Oh, yeah.

00:55:47.000 I don't think it was her, actually.

00:55:48.000 It was someone else.

00:55:49.000 It was just some woman, wasn't it? 0.96

00:55:50.000 I think it was her from when she had a lawsuit and her apartment was in the house.

00:55:55.000 Oh, right.

00:55:55.000 I think it's a real picture.

00:55:56.000 But I mean, I know Candace is your favorite podcaster, so I don't want to say anything to piss you off.

00:56:02.000 I think it's an op.

00:56:03.000 I think the Democrats realized they couldn't get their left wing Joe Rogan.

00:56:08.000 And we had predicted this back in 2024 that they were going to be dumping tens of millions of dollars.

00:56:13.000 Like they pulled the contract from Rachel Maddow.

00:56:16.000 These powerful interests have billions of dollars to spend.

00:56:19.000 George Soros has billions of dollars.

00:56:20.000 They're not going to sit there and be like, we lose the media game.

00:56:22.000 But you're not going to get a left wing Joe Rogan because they want authenticity.

00:56:25.000 So, what happens?

00:56:27.000 The interesting thing that I've brought up time and time again is that the RPMs on the search term Erica Kirk is comparable to finance, indicating there's either an algorithmic push or someone has put a ton of money on Google.

00:56:40.000 To pay people indirectly to make content about Erica Kirk.

00:56:45.000 Hmm.

00:56:47.000 I don't know.

00:56:47.000 I don't know if Google is manipulating it like that.

00:56:50.000 You think so?

00:56:51.000 You think YouTube is sure?

00:56:52.000 I said either algorithmically or someone put money on Google ads.

00:56:57.000 Any person in the world can go on Google ads, set up a series of ad buys, put a million bucks per month, and say, target these search terms.

00:57:07.000 And then what that does is the algorithm will promote that to sell inventory.

00:57:12.000 And that search term will see a higher return for the person who created the video.

00:57:15.000 Why Erica Kirk's volume is so high makes literally no sense.

00:57:20.000 Typically, if you have high content volume, you get low RPMs.

00:57:25.000 If the inventory is massive, then the advertiser can get cheap space.

00:57:30.000 They don't got to bid for it.

00:57:31.000 If there's limited space like finance, the cost goes way high because there's not enough content to purchase.

00:57:36.000 Well, to be fair, there are a lot of people that are newish content creators that are getting tons of views just talking about Erica every day because there's money behind it.

00:57:46.000 Why the algorithm is promoting it and why the RPM is so high does not make sense in the real world.

00:57:54.000 Yeah, it's totally.

00:57:55.000 I mean, it's a military tactic, dude.

00:57:58.000 If you can get your adversarial nation's citizenry to go at each other, you've basically won the war.

00:58:05.000 Let me frame it like this for you.

00:58:06.000 I was arguing about them.

00:58:07.000 So, in like 2008, the most valuable search term, do you guys know what it was?

00:58:13.000 You want to take a stab at what the most valuable term?

00:58:16.000 I know that the thing that Walmart sells the most of is bananas.

00:58:20.000 That is a product they sell the most of.

00:58:21.000 So, I'm guessing something.

00:58:22.000 So, the way Google ads work for websites is if your website.

00:58:27.000 Has a bunch of instances of a word on it.

00:58:30.000 Google Ads will scrape it and then deliver ads based on those words on your website.

00:58:34.000 It's a little bit different now, but this is 2008.

00:58:37.000 Mesothelioma.

00:58:39.000 It was number one?

00:58:40.000 Number one because of lawsuits.

00:58:42.000 A lot of commercials back then.

00:58:43.000 There were a lot of class action commercials like crazy.

00:58:45.000 Exactly.

00:58:46.000 It was the number one CPM.

00:58:49.000 So what happened is tons of people started making mesothelioma blogs and they would compete for the top search engine spot.

00:58:57.000 If someone searched mesothelioma and you were number three on the list, you were probably making a million bucks a month.

00:59:03.000 All your website was, was one page saying, here's what mesothelioma is, here's a list of people, and then Google Ads would appear and people could click to find a lawyer.

00:59:12.000 The lawyers were paying insane amounts of money to find these clients.

00:59:17.000 The point is, economically, when it comes to ads, the money comes from somewhere.

00:59:22.000 So finance has a high RPM because there's a limited content space, but the people who purchase financial services tend to be wealthy.

00:59:30.000 Poor people ain't buying wealth management for the most part.

00:59:32.000 This means that a banker can spend $100,000 on an ad because one client might net him over three years half a million dollars.

00:59:40.000 If you are selling politics, for instance, right now, RPMs are between $5 and $8.

00:59:46.000 Why?

00:59:47.000 Ain't nobody advertising in politics right now.

00:59:49.000 Not a single politician is buying.

00:59:51.000 But come October, come September, maybe even August, RPMs on political content is going to go up to $10 to $15 and then peak at $20.

01:00:01.000 During a presidential election, Political content is going to be around $20.

01:00:05.000 That's usually the high point.

01:00:06.000 And that's because every single political institution is buying to have an impact.

01:00:12.000 Right now, what money is made by an advertiser on Erica Kirk?

01:00:17.000 Nothing.

01:00:19.000 There is nothing you can buy.

01:00:21.000 There is no politics behind it other than to destroy Turning Point pre midterms, indicative of a political play to prop up content that will burn Turning Point down because they're rallying young people to vote for Trump.

01:00:34.000 I think it's even more Republican.

01:00:36.000 Although it is tied with Turning Point, that it's a hot button topic that'll get the Republican Party's following to rip itself apart. 0.92

01:00:43.000 Happens to be Erica.

01:00:44.000 Indeed.

01:00:44.000 The only problem is no one cares about politics in the offseason.

01:00:47.000 So RPMs are low, except on anti Turning Point content.

01:00:52.000 So Charlie's dead, and seven months later, you will make bank by making videos attacking Turning Point for some reason.

01:00:59.000 Have you noticed comparable value to things just straight up attacking Charlie Kirk or Turning Point without mentioning Erica Kirk?

01:01:05.000 Or is it the name Erica Kirk that's getting the only.

01:01:09.000 Nobody's making seven months on incessant long form videos about in support of Charlie Kirk and opposing the conspiracy theories.

01:01:17.000 The conspiracy theories get tons of views, but specifically Erica Kirk, which is why so many shows have started Kirk posting.

01:01:23.000 So many people have. 0.99

01:01:24.000 Why that is, the only guess I have is that someone is dumping money right now to destroy Erica Kirk.

01:01:34.000 They're definitely coming after Turning Point right now because they can kind of smell blood in the water.

01:01:38.000 Are you still doing stuff with Turning Point?

01:01:39.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:01:40.000 Wrapped up the semester is great.

01:01:41.000 We just did Missouri, University of Missouri, had a bunch of great debates.

01:01:45.000 And Turning Point, I love them.

01:01:46.000 I have no complaints.

01:01:47.000 But right now, a lot of the goodwill that Turning Point had after Charlie's death, it's kind of the tide is changing a little bit.

01:01:54.000 Why is it changing?

01:01:55.000 Well, part of the reason is Charlie's not there.

01:01:58.000 Right, but.

01:01:59.000 And the Iran war, I think, is a big thing because a lot of people know. 0.94

01:02:01.000 Charlie was in favor of it.

01:02:03.000 He was loosely in favor of it.

01:02:05.000 Well, when Trump struck, so before the 12 day war, Charlie said, no, no, no.

01:02:11.000 When Trump struck, he said, I stand by my promise.

01:02:13.000 Charlie was going to go with whatever the administration wanted.

01:02:15.000 Exactly.

01:02:16.000 You know, he was a diehard.

01:02:17.000 So listen, Charlie Kirk, a lot of people are doing revisionist history when it comes to Charlie and changing his political viewpoints.

01:02:24.000 One thing I know that he might have had some criticisms about Israel, but he would never stop defending them or.

01:02:28.000 Supporting them.

01:02:29.000 I don't think that was. 0.59

01:02:29.000 A month before he did a video with Colvet where they're trying to convince Gen Z to back Israel. 0.59

01:02:33.000 Exactly.

01:02:33.000 Well, I think that was actually a couple months before.

01:02:36.000 But yeah, that video actually blew up where he had the Turning Point students kind of talk about the elephant in the room, you know, Israel's influence, which you don't think they have any.

01:02:44.000 But I do think that.

01:02:45.000 I never said that.

01:02:46.000 You said that they don't have any influence and that they're the good.

01:02:48.000 This is what I. I'm going to say this about the Israel people.

01:02:50.000 I have a couple of dollars in my pocket.

01:02:52.000 So the problem that we have right now in this country is, you know, I told this to Myron Gaines.

01:02:59.000 Like, I'm like, bro, when you post happy merchants, you lose any goodwill you might have to convince people.

01:03:05.000 And so, if you look at like Dan Bilzerian's fans, if I say something on the show, like if I tweet right now, the U.S. should stop funding Israel, they will just attack me like crazy and then make videos insulting me and calling me a Zio shell, even if I agree with them.

01:03:20.000 Now, the question I have is, what is the function of that?

01:03:24.000 Do they want me to agree with them or to disagree?

01:03:26.000 Most people, when attacked, take the inverse position.

01:03:30.000 So, the Right.

01:03:32.000 As I explain with persuasion, social engineering, the first thing you have to do to convince someone is build rapport.

01:03:37.000 Rapport, extreme turn.

01:03:39.000 The first thing you do is you go to somebody, let's say you find a lib, you want to try and change their mind.

01:03:43.000 You have to agree with them and say, I hate Trump, you know, Kamala Harris all the way, right?

01:03:47.000 Actually, Bill Maher inadvertently does this on Club Random all the time.

01:03:50.000 You then present an extreme circumstance they can't agree with.

01:03:53.000 And in fact, Bill Maher does this inadvertently all the time.

01:03:56.000 And then it forces the other person to change their mind.

01:03:58.000 So, you know, good examples are when Seth Green was on Bill Maher's show and He's like, I'm a lib, I hate Trump.

01:04:04.000 Seth Green goes, Okay, cool, we're friends.

01:04:07.000 Then Seth Green goes, Trump made me think about thought crime and like how we're getting there.

01:04:11.000 And then Bill Maher says, Hate speech laws are a thought crime.

01:04:15.000 He creates a circumstance where he's like, Actually, look at this extreme position.

01:04:19.000 And it's not that heavy, but because it's inadvertent.

01:04:21.000 Seth Green goes, Wow, I never considered that.

01:04:24.000 That's how you change your mind.

01:04:25.000 And Ross at a very viral clip last week.

01:04:27.000 Same thing.

01:04:28.000 So the point I'm making about the Israel people is like, I'm going to throw up my buddy Clint Russell as a really great example.

01:04:34.000 I have continually made the point that Israel derangement syndrome is when you associate Israel with things that it's totally unrelated to.

01:04:40.000 Assassination of JFK, 9 11.

01:04:40.000 Like the opiate.

01:04:43.000 Well, I'm not even going to hear that stuff because conspiracy theories are conspiracy theories.

01:04:46.000 No, I'm talking about the opiate trade in West Virginia.

01:04:48.000 Okay. 0.99

01:04:49.000 That's Israel derangement syndrome. 0.70

01:04:50.000 Well, the Sackler family was Jewish, though, right? 0.72

01:04:53.000 And therein lies the issue that they find one morsel to connect the threads, even though the issue of opiates in West Virginia is more closely tied to China if you want to make a political argument.

01:05:02.000 Clint Russell then makes a video called Israel.

01:05:04.000 Israel Derangement Syndrome debunked with a picture of me in the thumbnail yelling at the camera where he criticizes me for things I never said.

01:05:11.000 So, what is the function of that?

01:05:12.000 Is that to convince me that I'm wrong or is that to just lie for views on the internet to pander to people who don't care one way or the other?

01:05:19.000 I think it's more of the lies just trying to make money, just trying to critique you because people do, you know, Tim, you are very popular, but the more popular you get, the more haters you get.

01:05:28.000 You know that.

01:05:29.000 So, people are just going to try to, I guess, clout chase or try to make money off that.

01:05:33.000 So, I mean, I think that's more of it than it is like them trying to convince you or make you feel guilty for not being.

01:05:38.000 Agreeing with them.

01:05:39.000 The interesting thing, though, is the end result of, like, in response to having Randy Fine on the show, the end result of this is massive support for Israel.

01:05:48.000 The response that I've seen.

01:05:49.000 Well, I would argue that Laura Loomer and Mark Levin actually create more anti Semitism than about anybody.

01:05:53.000 Oh, yeah, Daniel Zahn or Jake Shields could ever imagine doing.

01:05:56.000 Mark Levin, I get.

01:05:57.000 Laura Loomer is not Mark Levin level, in my opinion.

01:06:00.000 Laura Loomer is pro Trump. 0.89

01:06:01.000 She takes the Trump thing on everything.

01:06:03.000 Mark Levin is the Israel thing, and he is insufferable.

01:06:05.000 But my point is the response that I've gotten from normies after having Randy Fine on is why are they so crazy about Israel?

01:06:14.000 Oh, my God, dude.

01:06:16.000 So I go play poker all the time.

01:06:18.000 Randy Fine comes on the show.

01:06:19.000 I talk to some random guy who's not big in politics. 0.99

01:06:22.000 He sees the Twitter posts, he sees the comments, and he's like, what the fuck? Is wrong with those people. 0.99

01:06:28.000 The visceral psychotic reaction to me having a conversation with a guy they don't like resulted in regular, uninitiated people being like, wow, the anti Israel people are insane lunatics. 0.99

01:06:38.000 So, this is my point. 0.99

01:06:39.000 So, I told Myron Gaines this.

01:06:40.000 I'm like, bro, if you have an argument about Israeli government policies, military action, US involvement, AIPAC, and all that stuff, posting a happy merchant creates a repulsion.

01:06:51.000 Well, Kurt Metzger had a really good advice to me because we were just talking and he's very critical of Israel.

01:06:56.000 But he said, you can never say the Jews.

01:06:58.000 You can never say that.

01:06:59.000 He goes, if you want to critique Israel, just never say the Jews and you'll be okay. 0.98

01:07:03.000 Dave Smith does a great job because he never does any of these ridiculous things.

01:07:06.000 He has legitimate criticisms over Israeli policy and influence in the US government.

01:07:10.000 And that's what I told these guys.

01:07:12.000 I said, you should be more like Dave be fun, be funny, and be smart and accommodating.

01:07:18.000 But when you're antagonistic, people who watch that take the side of the person who's victimized. 0.57

01:07:23.000 So it's almost like these people are pro Israel inadvertently because. 0.75

01:07:23.000 Yeah, of course. 0.75

01:07:29.000 You know, the argument is.

01:07:30.000 Well, because they care about Israel so much that it's like they're obviously a little bit of a fan if you know about Israel.

01:07:35.000 That's not what I mean.

01:07:36.000 What I mean is, if you walk up to two people and they were both, and one guy had his hands up being, please, dude, just stop, just stop, and the other guy punched him, you would say, the guy swinging is the bad guy.

01:07:46.000 And you would rush to the fence of the guy who got hit.

01:07:49.000 What if it turned out the guy who got hit was a pedophile who had just been caught with a child?

01:07:54.000 This actually happened with Luke Rikowski's friend who there was a shooting in a mall.

01:07:59.000 His friend, Came in to stop the shooter and drew his weapon.

01:08:02.000 When the police came in, they saw him with the gun and shot and killed him.

01:08:05.000 Oh, wow. 0.99

01:08:06.000 The point is when it comes to issues of persuasion, if you really do have a legitimate criticism of Israeli influence because they've done something wrong, but you were online saying fat Jews, you piece of trash, regular people walk up and see you being crazy and take the side of the person who's being attacked. 0.98

01:08:27.000 Well, you just made $7,000 in the chat, so congrats. 0.98

01:08:31.000 Sure. 1.00

01:08:32.000 Ching. 0.99

01:08:33.000 If they really paid 7,000 bucks, I probably would be pro Israel, honestly, if that was.

01:08:33.000 7,000.

01:08:37.000 Let's talk about Animal Farm.

01:08:39.000 Did you promote them?

01:08:39.000 Oh, my gosh.

01:08:41.000 But I've done a lot of Seven Angels videos.

01:08:41.000 No, no, I haven't.

01:08:43.000 Did they try offering you money to promote Animal Farm?

01:08:45.000 I don't think so.

01:08:46.000 They might have reached out to Rad, but I feel like we are promoting some Angel Studios, but not Animal Farm.

01:08:50.000 A bunch of people deleted their tweets.

01:08:51.000 Funnily enough.

01:08:52.000 Wait, wait, take that back.

01:08:53.000 The tweets that.

01:08:55.000 About Animal Farm.

01:08:56.000 There were a handful of paid Animal Farm promos from prominent right personalities, and they deleted them because they started getting attacked for it.

01:09:03.000 I don't think Riley Gaines deleted hers.

01:09:05.000 But hers looked like a copy and paste.

01:09:07.000 And I got to tell you, Alex, it is fairly demoralizing to see all these right wingers promote welfare soda, India, gambling websites, and a pro communist movie for money.

01:09:19.000 These people didn't watch the movie.

01:09:19.000 No.

01:09:19.000 They don't care.

01:09:22.000 They make these posts, and you're supposed to believe the person you're following is expressing a genuine thought or opinion.

01:09:27.000 Yeah.

01:09:28.000 And I'm going to say this again.

01:09:30.000 I told my wife the reason why I made an announcement we will not accept this money from Angel Studios is because I know.

01:09:36.000 This offer went up to a bunch of conservatives, and they're all going to start promoting this.

01:09:40.000 They're going to promote, like, bro, let me tell you, conservatives are promoting communism for pay.

01:09:45.000 Yeah, they are.

01:09:46.000 And I mean, to be fair, you know, everybody gets attacked and accused of being a grifter.

01:09:51.000 And sure, we got to pay our bills.

01:09:52.000 We got to sell a t shirt here and there, sell a little coffee.

01:09:55.000 But when it comes to paid advertising ads like that, people are just trying to make ends meet and they're going to go, they don't care about the movie.

01:10:01.000 They don't care about the.

01:10:02.000 But this is indicative of the rest of their opinions.

01:10:05.000 Typically, these people, when they're not selling, they want clicks because they want engagement, they want ad dollars or otherwise.

01:10:11.000 So I can only presume any one of these individuals who is willing to take money to promote welfare soda, India, gambling, specifically fly by night foreign gambling, and, uh, uh, uh, Pro communism films wearing our traditions like skin suits, they're probably lying about all of their opinions because they're saying the things they think will get them clicks.

01:10:30.000 Well, we're going to find out very soon when MAGA is over and we're going to see if JD Vance or Rubio can just take the MAGA coalition and carry it.

01:10:40.000 I don't think either of them necessarily can.

01:10:43.000 I mean, if Hillary Clinton couldn't do it with Obama, then I don't think they're going to be able to do it.

01:10:46.000 But that's where we'll know who's going to be clicking and who's going to be on the side of politicians that aren't popular because people are going to have to go to Ted Cruz or they're going to have to go.

01:10:54.000 Thomas Massey, and I think that's going to cause a lot of.

01:10:57.000 Massey's neck and neck right now, apparently.

01:10:58.000 We were talking to Ed.

01:11:00.000 I mean, he should win.

01:11:01.000 He acts like he's not scared of, you know, AIPAC spending all that money, but obviously it's a lot.

01:11:07.000 It's very scary if they're doing that.

01:11:08.000 Yeah, I got to be honest, though.

01:11:09.000 I think Massey's got a bright future ahead of him.

01:11:11.000 I think if.

01:11:12.000 You think he's going to run for president?

01:11:12.000 How do you say that?

01:11:14.000 I think if Massey leaves, his gravitas is tremendous and he can have way more persuasive power in the political space as a free agent as opposed to being in Congress.

01:11:14.000 No, he doesn't need to.

01:11:25.000 I don't know if that's true.

01:11:26.000 I mean, not having a position, the next administration is not going to hire him.

01:11:30.000 Do you think the left is going to hire him?

01:11:31.000 No, I'm saying he's going to be a prominent personality leading the charge in the populist right.

01:11:39.000 Yeah, I mean, he kind of is.

01:11:41.000 But I look at Marjorie Taylor Greene stepping down from Congress.

01:11:45.000 It feels like all the people that are, you know, actually have the balls to speak out against.

01:11:50.000 Alex, let me tell you what's going on. 0.64

01:11:51.000 Okay.

01:11:52.000 We're in the political dead season.

01:11:52.000 Yeah, you tell me.

01:11:54.000 I've been there, done that.

01:11:54.000 Yes.

01:11:55.000 We've been talking about this a lot.

01:11:56.000 It's very dead.

01:11:57.000 And so these people.

01:11:59.000 Are trying to figure out how to remain relevant when it's the only thing they have.

01:12:02.000 Well, that's true because there's, I think, 452 congressmen and women, and only about 25 of them are famous.

01:12:08.000 So they're all trying to, you know, say that.

01:12:10.000 It's the pundits, it's the grifters, it's the conservative personalities.

01:12:10.000 But it's not just that.

01:12:14.000 Right now, as the outsider, Democrats have a ton of attention.

01:12:18.000 Everything Trump is doing is evil, so they are the resistance.

01:12:22.000 But if you're a conservative voter or a moderate right leaning voter, you don't care about anything.

01:12:26.000 You voted for Trump and you left, just like the Obama voters who were anti war left as soon as he got in office.

01:12:32.000 This is.

01:12:32.000 Is every single political cycle.

01:12:35.000 But what if you're a grifter who needs to sell ads?

01:12:38.000 What if you need to post on X, get a million views so you can go to an advertiser who's willing to have you promote communism for pay?

01:12:46.000 How do you do it if you're not getting the retweets?

01:12:48.000 Well, secretly.

01:12:48.000 Anti Trump, anti Kirk, anti Israel generates clicks.

01:12:52.000 Those three topics do, but generally, Fox News got their best ratings when Obama was president.

01:12:58.000 Agreed.

01:12:58.000 So it's easier to grift, quote unquote, if the opposite person is in power.

01:13:02.000 So here's the issue.

01:13:03.000 When you are massively underwritten like Fox News with carriage fees and you're getting 80 to 100 million per year, no matter what, you can withstand an off year where no one is talking.

01:13:15.000 I mean, you turn on Fox News right now and what are they talking about?

01:13:17.000 They're talking about largely cultural issues.

01:13:19.000 You turn on MSNBC.

01:13:19.000 The ballroom.

01:13:20.000 They won't shut up about the ballroom.

01:13:21.000 You turn on MSNow and they're like, Trump is Hitler.

01:13:25.000 The world is ending.

01:13:27.000 They're kidnapping children.

01:13:28.000 They're the resistance.

01:13:29.000 So views for liberal content still remain high.

01:13:32.000 Yeah.

01:13:33.000 For exactly the reason you just described.

01:13:34.000 Here's the thing though. 0.78

01:13:36.000 If you are a working class influencer who makes maybe $60,000, $70,000 a year posting YouTube videos and X posts, you lost all your views.

01:13:46.000 Your numbers just went in the gutter.

01:13:49.000 Why?

01:13:50.000 Because when Obama was running for office, all of the anti war people were on the streets every day.

01:13:57.000 As soon as he wins, they disappear.

01:13:59.000 There's no Trump wins for that side.

01:13:59.000 Oh, yeah.

01:14:01.000 This is what happens every political cycle.

01:14:04.000 The president wins.

01:14:05.000 Sounds like we won the culture war.

01:14:07.000 And so what happens is after a presidential victory, you have the first hundred days.

01:14:07.000 Right.

01:14:12.000 Viewership declines a bit for the season, but people kind of stick around to see what the president is going to do, and there's a lot of attention around it.

01:14:19.000 But into the next holidays, Before the midterm spending cycle and after a presidential election, no one is following politics anymore.

01:14:28.000 Right now, with the culture war, Democrats are glued to it because Republicans control everything.

01:14:33.000 Republicans don't pay attention because they control everything.

01:14:37.000 So there's very little to say.

01:14:38.000 Trump secured the border, he got the domestic issues.

01:14:40.000 There are still the diehards paying attention.

01:14:42.000 But if you were a guy who was making 70K a year, posting X on X and making videos and doing memes, you're not getting those anymore.

01:14:50.000 So what are we seeing?

01:14:51.000 Right wing meme accounts are now posting generic viral videos.

01:14:55.000 Or they're anti Trump now.

01:14:57.000 Because you go anti Trump, you get clicks.

01:14:59.000 You go Erica Kirk, you go Israel, you get clicks.

01:15:03.000 This trend is going to be interesting as we get into the midterms.

01:15:07.000 Like with the DeSantis cycle, we might see many of these people come back together.

01:15:12.000 Do you remember like the DeSantis?

01:15:14.000 I don't think there's a possibility where everybody comes back together.

01:15:17.000 Well, they sold their audience like CNN did.

01:15:19.000 CNN had a moderate audience.

01:15:21.000 Trump gets elected, they attack Trump and create a liberal audience.

01:15:25.000 A few years later, they try to back away under Biden.

01:15:28.000 Their ratings are gone forever.

01:15:29.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:15:30.000 Because the moderates used to watch are like, I don't want to watch that lib crap. 0.98

01:15:33.000 I was one of them. 0.99

01:15:34.000 I used to watch CNN 24-7.

01:15:36.000 I still kind of watch it just for the opposition research.

01:15:38.000 But it's not news anymore.

01:15:40.000 Yeah.

01:15:40.000 That's the problem.

01:15:41.000 Well, I mean, Fox News is not really news.

01:15:43.000 No, Fox News is news.

01:15:44.000 Brett Baer talks about what's going on in the news.

01:15:46.000 You watch The Five, you watch Laura Ingram or Hannity, you're not getting news.

01:15:50.000 But you watch, you know, America Report.

01:15:50.000 Yeah.

01:15:53.000 There's some news on there, but there is a lot of bias.

01:15:55.000 Let's not act like they don't have a huge conservative slant.

01:15:58.000 That's right.

01:15:59.000 I'm not arguing they're pundits.

01:16:01.000 I'm arguing Brett Baer and America's Newsroom general news coverage is news.

01:16:05.000 You turn on CNN, you don't get it.

01:16:07.000 You turn on MSNI, you don't get it. 0.62

01:16:08.000 So, my point is what we're seeing now when we get back into the political cycle, I'm looking at all these people that have turned themselves into Israel channels.

01:16:17.000 Like my dude, that is a small market share.

01:16:20.000 It may be bigger right now than politics because politics is the offseason.

01:16:23.000 But if you just decide to be an Israel poster and you abandon your base, what are you going to be when politics is mainstream and $10 billion is spent in the cycle? 0.95

01:16:31.000 And regular people look at you like you're retarded. 0.92

01:16:33.000 Well, let me tell you why I think you're wrong, sadly. 0.90

01:16:35.000 And I think it was Randy Fine that said it on this podcast there's 9 million Jews in Israel.

01:16:41.000 I think there's 15 million Jews in America.

01:16:43.000 And there's.

01:16:44.000 No, no, no, 15 million diaspora worldwide.

01:16:45.000 Okay, so there's 15 million worldwide, but there's 1.8 billion Muslims.

01:16:51.000 So there's always going to be a Muslim audience that is probably not going to be very pro Israel.

01:16:54.000 So you could argue that, yeah, maybe your domestic audience might get smaller, but your international audience could blow up. 1.00

01:16:59.000 Completely agree.

01:17:00.000 My point is that you're not going to have your audience back.

01:17:04.000 They may make money off Pakistan and Indonesia or Malaysia or something.

01:17:08.000 But in two years, when we're in the full throes of the presidential cycle and $7 billion is likely, I think the projection is what, $8 billion for 2028 expected to be spent?

01:17:21.000 I think Obama was the first billion, and now it's expected to be exponential.

01:17:26.000 You are going to have every facet of mainstream American culture focused on this upcoming election.

01:17:32.000 We have a dual primary for the first time in what, 10 years?

01:17:36.000 So we had the Republican Democrat primary in 2016.

01:17:39.000 But then with 2020, we only had a Democrat one.

01:17:42.000 And technically in 2024, we didn't have any primary at all.

01:17:46.000 Because although there was technically a Republican one, or I'm sorry, in 2023, it didn't really matter because everyone knew it was going to be Trump.

01:17:52.000 For the first time, we're going to have Democrats and Republicans in a primary season dumping billions of dollars.

01:17:58.000 That amount of money is going to be focused on economics.

01:18:01.000 Israel is not going to matter to your run of the mill plumber or teacher when it comes to how they're paying their health care bills.

01:18:08.000 By all means, the Israel posters, the channels are dedicated to nothing but Israel content, may still get Malaysian viewers or a certain sect of American viewers, but it's small market share.

01:18:17.000 My point is this.

01:18:18.000 If you were a political channel that received a general political audience, you have growth potential.

01:18:22.000 But the focus on Israel is limited domestic potential.

01:18:26.000 By all means, you can do what Jackson Hinkle did, move to Russia or whatever.

01:18:29.000 Is that where you went?

01:18:30.000 You went to Russia?

01:18:31.000 I don't know.

01:18:31.000 I mean, I know he's doing that like American communism gimmick.

01:18:34.000 But I just, when it comes to this content, there is going to be an audience for the anti Israel crowd.

01:18:41.000 And so I just don't think it's just going to die after the midterms.

01:18:44.000 No one said that.

01:18:45.000 Well, you just said Joe Plummer and stuff, the people are not, you know, the uneducated voters are not going to be that.

01:18:50.000 I didn't call him uneducated either.

01:18:51.000 Okay, what you insinuated.

01:18:53.000 My insinuation is a regular working class guy doesn't care. 0.65

01:18:58.000 He wants to know how to get into politics. 0.77

01:18:59.000 If we actually, and that's the one thing, though, if you made a podcast talking all about American domestic issues, nobody's going to listen.

01:19:04.000 But if you made a podcast talking about our foreign issues, people will listen.

01:19:07.000 No, my point is during a political cycle, everyone is listening because they want to know who to vote for.

01:19:15.000 They're dialed in, yes.

01:19:16.000 Right now, no one is because nothing's happening and there's nothing you can do about it.

01:19:19.000 I think even during political cycles, 70% of the population is tuned out.

01:19:24.000 Yeah.

01:19:25.000 That's actually, well, you know, I flip a coin on that one.

01:19:28.000 Maybe, maybe you're half right.

01:19:30.000 The issue is that politics right now in our generation is pop culture.

01:19:34.000 When Jimmy Kimmel does nothing every day but talk about politics, I would largely disagree.

01:19:39.000 I would say right now, if you look at search trends, it's all sports.

01:19:43.000 People don't care.

01:19:45.000 And it's gambling that's driving a lot of the sports stuff.

01:19:48.000 Yeah.

01:19:49.000 People right now are like, look, there's no elections.

01:19:51.000 No money's being spent.

01:19:51.000 I don't care.

01:19:52.000 No one's focused on it.

01:19:54.000 In the next couple of months, we're going to start getting all of this crazy primary action.

01:19:58.000 Congressional primaries don't matter all that much, but about a month or two before the election, they're going to be spending billions of dollars on ads, and that's going to mandate that media shift.

01:20:08.000 Put it this way let's say CNN.

01:20:11.000 Advertiser comes to them and says, I want to run a commercial in my district on CNN saying, vote for me.

01:20:19.000 But you guys only talk about sports, so I'm not going to buy from you.

01:20:22.000 CNN goes, no, we're doing special election coverage.

01:20:25.000 Okay, I'll buy from you now.

01:20:27.000 These guys.

01:20:28.000 Who do these ad buys are going to put a decent chunk onto ESPN.

01:20:33.000 You will see political ads in every space possible, but the biggest chunk of ad spending appears in political spaces.

01:20:39.000 Notably, when Bloomberg bought his half a billion in ads, it appeared on political channels because he's trying to capture the people who are folks in politics.

01:20:46.000 He wants that name recognition.

01:20:47.000 More importantly, he was targeting opposition.

01:20:50.000 So my channel had an insane amount of Bloomberg ads on it.

01:20:53.000 Like that dude basically funded my entire, what, 2018, 2019?

01:20:58.000 It was later than that, too.

01:20:59.000 I was in the room.

01:21:00.000 It was happening.

01:21:00.000 It was 19.

01:21:01.000 It was nuts.

01:21:02.000 Like, people would be like, bro, I watch your videos.

01:21:04.000 I only get Bloomberg ads.

01:21:05.000 And I'm like, because Bloomberg knows you guys who watch don't like him.

01:21:10.000 He knows I'm criticizing him.

01:21:12.000 And this is his opportunity to put his message in front of my content.

01:21:15.000 It's like how Ben Shapiro's ads all pull up.

01:21:18.000 If you look at Tucker, I have YouTube Premium, so I don't see this, but I've seen screenshots.

01:21:22.000 If you go look at Tucker's YouTube page, you're going to get targeted ads from Ben Shapiro.

01:21:26.000 Is it like a commercial being like, hey, guys, come watch?

01:21:28.000 Yes.

01:21:28.000 Yeah, but I don't think.

01:21:30.000 He definitely wants his audience to get some of Tucker's.

01:21:33.000 I do not.

01:21:34.000 Don't play Dom.

01:21:35.000 I don't.

01:21:35.000 Think that Ben Shapiro went on Google Ads and said, run my ad on Tucker content?

01:21:35.000 Come on.

01:21:39.000 Somebody at Daily Wire did.

01:21:40.000 No, they probably went to Google Ads and said, if it's conservative, right leaning, or in the space, run my ad on it, which includes Tucker.

01:21:47.000 I mean, go look at Ben Shapiro.

01:21:48.000 He makes a Tucker video every other day.

01:21:50.000 So I don't know.

01:21:51.000 I mean, I have a Google Ads manager, and I'll tell you how it works.

01:21:55.000 So I think you're being naive.

01:21:58.000 I think you don't know how Google Ads works.

01:21:59.000 You don't think anybody at Daily Wire that works on Ben Shapiro's social media said, hey, we're making tons of Tucker Carlson content.

01:22:07.000 We should probably advertise it to the people that like Tucker, whether they change it or they.

01:22:13.000 Well, the majority of people that I'm saying, when you go to Tucker's YouTube page, you want to watch a Tucker video.

01:22:17.000 I get it.

01:22:17.000 You're going to get it.

01:22:18.000 Alex, the insinuation you're making is that Daily Wire is not profit motivated.

01:22:21.000 They are.

01:22:22.000 Then they wouldn't run the ads on Tucker content if they hate Tucker.

01:22:25.000 Well, you know, it's funny we say they're profit motivated.

01:22:27.000 But at the same time, I think you could argue that Ben Shapiro probably does work for Israel. 0.55

01:22:27.000 They want to make money. 0.55

01:22:31.000 And it's probably.

01:22:32.000 I mean, honestly, I think you could make that argument.

01:22:34.000 But. 0.99

01:22:35.000 And your argument is he's really dumb. 0.99

01:22:38.000 Well, no, because if they're just trying to get. 0.98

01:22:40.000 If they care more about getting a certain message out than how many people actually see the message, that's not an effective way to do it. 0.99

01:22:46.000 So that's really dumb. 0.96

01:22:47.000 I think they're targeting Tucker fans. 0.98

01:22:49.000 I don't know.

01:22:49.000 I mean, I don't think it's as big a conspiracy.

01:22:51.000 I don't think it's a big action.

01:22:53.000 I think the problem I have with it is you're making too many leaps.

01:22:56.000 The way Google Ads works, so I'll tell you because I have an ads manager, is they do it for you.

01:23:01.000 Well, you can search a certain demographic, a person that is.

01:23:04.000 Indeed.

01:23:05.000 And you typically, you can, but you usually don't say Tucker Carlson.

01:23:09.000 You say conservative, right leaning, nationalist, foreign policy, and that will include Tucker Carlson.

01:23:16.000 The insinuation that the Daily Wire intentionally runs their content on Tucker's ads.

01:23:20.000 I don't want to say conspiracy, but that means they're not profit driven because that would just lose them money.

01:23:27.000 They wouldn't build an audience that actually hurt their audience by doing so.

01:23:30.000 I don't know.

01:23:31.000 It's not a horrible tactic.

01:23:33.000 I mean, we ran an ad on Sam Cedar's page, I think.

01:23:36.000 Yeah.

01:23:37.000 Well, to be fair, we ran an ad on Sam Cedar's channel saying, don't watch Sam Cedar.

01:23:41.000 I actually like that, but Israel is fighting an eight front war and they've spent billions of dollars.

01:23:41.000 It was kind of a gag.

01:23:47.000 I mean, that's what they say, a thousand million on trying to create more positive influence.

01:23:52.000 Oh, yeah.

01:23:53.000 Has that worked out for them?

01:23:54.000 No, it's actually her.

01:23:55.000 But TikTok, you know, you can't even like post a juice post on TikTok anymore. 0.57

01:24:00.000 Yeah, except now the Ellisons announced that 49.5% of Paramount will be owned by the Saudis and the Qataris. 0.99

01:24:07.000 What the fuck? 0.99

01:24:07.000 They own a bunch of movies and stuff. 0.99

01:24:09.000 No, they own a bunch of our media.

01:24:10.000 I don't know.

01:24:11.000 Barry Weiso getting a $100 million deal, Tim Carter.

01:24:13.000 $150. 1.00

01:24:14.000 You know, she sucks. 1.00

01:24:15.000 And her free press gets no views, Tim. 1.00

01:24:19.000 I mean, if she got $150, you deserve a billion.

01:24:22.000 That's correct.

01:24:22.000 Yes, I do deserve a billion.

01:24:23.000 $50 million for a year?

01:24:24.000 No, no, no, for a buyout.

01:24:26.000 To basically just. 1.00

01:24:27.000 Have her company be the one that is running.

01:24:30.000 But I think you're missing the big picture.

01:24:32.000 I think you're missing the big picture on this one.

01:24:32.000 Yes.

01:24:34.000 Here's what I think happened I think Paramount, CBS, Elson, they went to Barry and they said, We want you to run news at CBS.

01:24:42.000 And she said, I'm rich and I own my own company.

01:24:44.000 I don't need to do it.

01:24:45.000 And they said, How much do you want to come and work at CBS?

01:24:48.000 She's like, I'm not going to do it.

01:24:50.000 They said, Okay. 0.68

01:24:53.000 How about we buy you out and then you come and work for us?

01:24:55.000 And she said, I've got 100,000 paying subscribers.

01:24:59.000 I do eight figures.

01:25:00.000 I don't need this job.

01:25:02.000 Why should I?

01:25:03.000 Like, here's the question for a buyout when you're generating that kind of money.

01:25:08.000 If you make 10 million profit per year, do you need to go work for somebody?

01:25:12.000 The only way they could have got Barry Weiss is to buy her out for a ridiculous amount of money.

01:25:16.000 Yeah, but what they were buying is not worth that money.

01:25:18.000 So I feel like they bought her because she's influential and they know what her bias is going to lean.

01:25:23.000 And they got mad at CBS.

01:25:24.000 No, no, no.

01:25:25.000 Stop, stop, stop.

01:25:26.000 Wait, I got to address what you said.

01:25:28.000 What they're buying wasn't worth the money. 0.87

01:25:32.000 They're buying a Zionist editor in chief. 0.97

01:25:34.000 It's worth every penny to them. 1.00

01:25:34.000 Yes. 1.00

01:25:36.000 Well, probably so.

01:25:37.000 But there you go.

01:25:37.000 That's why they spin it.

01:25:39.000 So it makes sense.

01:25:40.000 Well, and also, you know, there was this unfavorable news clip from CBS, it was 60 Minutes specifically, where they talked about, you know, Gaza and said how it was bad.

01:25:49.000 And they also covered the pager bombing and kind of showed a not super pro Israel side of the pager bombing.

01:25:55.000 You know, they were a little more.

01:25:56.000 Free press has called, has said Israel's got an extremist problem and highlighted the West Bank.

01:26:01.000 Well, I think that you can't really debate that.

01:26:02.000 I mean, it's pretty bad.

01:26:03.000 Even the free press is saying it.

01:26:05.000 I'm saying you look at the pictures before October 7th and it was a nice, you know, flourishing city on the water.

01:26:10.000 And now you look at it and it's flattened like a.

01:26:12.000 You mean Gaza?

01:26:13.000 Gaza. 1.00

01:26:13.000 I'll send them to the West Bank. 1.00

01:26:15.000 The free press wrote that the Israeli settlers are extremists attacking Israel. 0.98

01:26:20.000 And they are. 0.93

01:26:20.000 They'll just go into Palestinians' houses and kick them out, literally. 0.93

01:26:24.000 Those videos go really viral. 0.95

01:26:24.000 Indeed. 0.95

01:26:26.000 They'll hit them with their shoes.

01:26:28.000 It's a bad situation.

01:26:29.000 They're definitely violent in the West Bank.

01:26:31.000 I think they're definitely violent in Gaza, too. 0.54

01:26:33.000 Right.

01:26:33.000 So ultimately, I think Arn McIntyre said if your political elites aren't willing to drop billions of dollars to buy a media organization to support their cause, then what are you actually even doing?

01:26:42.000 Something like that.

01:26:43.000 And.

01:26:45.000 I'll put it this way. 0.69

01:26:47.000 What I love about the Israel conspiracy stuff is that Israel's just really, really bad at it.

01:26:53.000 It's like they're.

01:26:57.000 You make tons of money on X being anti Israel. 0.88

01:27:00.000 Yeah, but I think this is the problem, though, is that in the 80s and 90s, even Howard Stern, he's Jewish, he'd make all these Jew jokes. 0.54

01:27:07.000 But now it's gotten where everybody's keeping score in the pro Israel crowd. 0.53

01:27:11.000 And then if you even just make fun of them, you're an anti Semite.

01:27:13.000 So they're creating more anti Semitism by accusing everybody of being a Nazi and anti Semite.

01:27:18.000 I think that's what's hurt them in the public relations.

01:27:21.000 And they've always done that.

01:27:22.000 There's a famous Seinfeld episode about this.

01:27:24.000 I mean, actually, of course. 0.59

01:27:25.000 But I'm saying we used to kind of have a sense of humor about Jewish jokes back in the 90s and early 90s.

01:27:30.000 George's dad? 0.99

01:27:32.000 Oh, well, they do festivals.

01:27:33.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:27:34.000 He's like, everyone's anti Semite.

01:27:36.000 And they're like, Frank, not everyone's an anti Semite. 0.85

01:27:38.000 He's like, it's anti Semitism, I'm telling you. 0.96

01:27:40.000 No matter what it was, he was because he was a Jew. 0.98

01:27:43.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:27:44.000 So my point is, I think that we've gotten where we can't have a sense of humor about this stuff anymore.

01:27:49.000 And I saw, I do think your argument is correct.

01:27:51.000 And I was trying to agree with you with the Kurt Metzger thing.

01:27:53.000 When Myron does post the happy merchant, it is funny, but it gets him a lot of negative attention, which he can't really rectify right now.

01:28:02.000 Hopefully, you can't debate that.

01:28:04.000 There is a guy who woke up this morning and he threw some melon into a blender with some yogurt and then he put a little almond milk in it and drank that.

01:28:14.000 Sounds like you.

01:28:15.000 He opened up his sports betting app and then he was looking at the games that were going on and he turned on the news and then he heard something about a shooting with the White House and he's like, wow.

01:28:25.000 He's like, I don't even.

01:28:26.000 But do you think the correspondence thing was real or fake?

01:28:28.000 One second.

01:28:29.000 And he goes, I don't even know what this is.

01:28:31.000 I have no idea what's going on.

01:28:33.000 In the next few months, as we get into the political cycle, he's going to see more and more advertisements.

01:28:37.000 And this guy generally just doesn't know or care.

01:28:40.000 Okay. 0.84

01:28:41.000 Then he sees Myron Gaines start dressing up like a Jew and doing Jew dancing. 1.00

01:28:46.000 And then he goes, These people are assholes. 1.00

01:28:50.000 And then he bumps into a Jewish guy at a diner who, or like a Hasidic Jew. 1.00

01:28:55.000 And then he just thinks, Well, that guy wouldn't mean to me at all.

01:28:57.000 That's the normal interaction that human beings have.

01:29:00.000 If you live in New York.

01:29:01.000 Or he goes into a bank and they deny him for a bank loan and he's like, I don't like that.

01:29:05.000 That's just not realistic for a regular person. 0.91

01:29:07.000 If you live in New York, you've probably bumped into an Orthodox or Hasidic Jewish guy who was nothing but nice to you.

01:29:13.000 So I lived on Myrtle and Nostrand and one block over, there was like a Jewish supermarket and they were the nicest people in the world to be.

01:29:20.000 I would say generally, most Jewish people are actually secular and not even super religious and very laid back. 0.93

01:29:25.000 And this is the point.

01:29:27.000 Not that Israel is good or bad or that. 1.00

01:29:29.000 You know, Jews are in Hollywood controlling what you mean.

01:29:31.000 None of that.

01:29:32.000 My point is, the regular interactions of a person tend to be not in the news cycle.

01:29:38.000 Just, I got a friend who's Jewish.

01:29:40.000 He's very nice to me.

01:29:41.000 And then I saw this guy insulting him and accusing him of things on the internet. 0.87

01:29:45.000 I hate those people.

01:29:47.000 So I'm like, Dave Smith is a comedian.

01:29:49.000 Yeah, he's great.

01:29:50.000 He goes into venues and makes everybody laugh and then has legitimate criticisms of US military possible and Israeli influence. 0.56

01:29:57.000 And that regular guy laughs the whole time, busts a gut, and then says, That was interesting.

01:30:02.000 I didn't know that, Dave.

01:30:04.000 He's smiling and happy.

01:30:05.000 And Dave will say to him, Don't be mean to your neighbor.

01:30:08.000 And he goes, I agree.

01:30:09.000 Dave gets the message through to people.

01:30:11.000 And these other people, they don't.

01:30:15.000 But your Wiles Correspond Center, yeah, of course it happened.

01:30:18.000 Yeah, but didn't you?

01:30:19.000 You saw the video where, you know, Oz is on stage and then you see Trump has like a normal face and then Melania looks very scared.

01:30:25.000 And in the video, you hear like the boom, boom, boom, boom.

01:30:28.000 You hear four booms.

01:30:29.000 I don't know.

01:30:29.000 And there's every camera.

01:30:31.000 I'm not saying it's fake, but you know, I'm a big conspiracy theorist.

01:30:34.000 I just, it seems like.

01:30:35.000 The coordinated effort where everybody's tweeting about the ballroom, too, after that seemed kind of inorganic.

01:30:41.000 So, some of it was obviously coordinated.

01:30:43.000 Not all of it was.

01:30:44.000 Ballroom tweets, you have to get.

01:30:45.000 Yeah, Mike Cernovich was ruptured into this.

01:30:47.000 I'm like, that dude's not coordinating messaging the way these other people are.

01:30:50.000 Well, there's some people that hop on it organically, right?

01:30:52.000 But you only need a few big accounts to kind of.

01:30:54.000 So, you think it was inorganic?

01:30:55.000 You think it was because of the ballroom?

01:30:56.000 Well, I think.

01:30:57.000 I mean, I think it's a possibility.

01:30:59.000 I don't think Trump would actually do a false flag at this event.

01:31:02.000 He could just trust the main benefit for the ballroom, right?

01:31:06.000 I don't think that.

01:31:07.000 And what's the benefit?

01:31:08.000 A Kamala Harris voter did not just put himself in prison for the rest of his life so that they could introduce legislation for a ballroom.

01:31:08.000 I don't know.

01:31:15.000 Well, but what I think is the more likely scenario is it's not that Trump is like playing 5D chess and telling Cash Vertel, hey, do this, but it's that they have these like sleeper cell people that are mentally ill that they've radicalized with the internet.

01:31:27.000 And at some point, they could just do something that activates him.

01:31:30.000 This guy was not your typical mentally ill guy.

01:31:33.000 Well, he kind of was. 0.98

01:31:34.000 He was a teacher, he was a nerd. 0.77

01:31:36.000 Yes.

01:31:36.000 That's the type of person that can.

01:31:37.000 Hold on, hold on.

01:31:38.000 Let me finish my point.

01:31:39.000 The scary thing about this guy was that by all.

01:31:42.000 Modern sensibilities, he looked normal.

01:31:44.000 Yeah, he looked like he was pretty sexy.

01:31:46.000 He isn't some guy who had, like, you know, pictures of, you know, upside down Rush Limbaugh with, like, a knife in the wall or anything like that. 1.00

01:31:53.000 He was a teacher who then traveled nonchalantly and coherently drafted a message saying Trump is an evil pedophile rapist. 0.99

01:31:53.000 You think they're. 0.99

01:32:01.000 Those are common mainstream Democrat views.

01:32:04.000 Those are, and those are talking points I've had to debate all semester.

01:32:07.000 But at the same exact time, he's a guy that's probably against the Second Amendment, probably not a gun nut, but there are liberal gun nuts.

01:32:14.000 So, somebody had to radicalize him somewhere to be like, hey, get the gun, drive across state lines, you know, go in there.

01:32:19.000 What do you mean, like a specific individual had to do that?

01:32:22.000 It's called Every Day Nonstop.

01:32:24.000 Bro, we've talked about this.

01:32:26.000 He's radicalized by this stuff.

01:32:28.000 They can make an algorithm.

01:32:29.000 You have been on the show with us where we have said, after Charlie was killed, the rhetoric from all of these libs is an avalanche that is normal.

01:32:37.000 Actually, we said after Luigi Mangione.

01:32:39.000 Yeah, because you made it.

01:32:40.000 When they celebrate assassins, it only takes one guy out of 70 million to decide to be the quote unquote hero the left has asked him to be.

01:32:49.000 So, who had to radicalize this guy?

01:32:50.000 How about 70 million Kamala voters who were on TikTok saying who's going to do it?

01:32:54.000 But you're in a room with like thousands of people and he didn't even hit one person.

01:32:58.000 Never got in the room.

01:32:59.000 What are you talking about?

01:33:00.000 You said he shot four rounds.

01:33:02.000 We did hear misinformation that he was taken out by the Secret Service and you're like, what?

01:33:02.000 Okay, wait, hold on.

01:33:06.000 But you know, he never got anywhere near the ballroom.

01:33:09.000 Well, he got like in the hallway.

01:33:10.000 There's a hallway that leads to stairs, which go down to the ballroom, and he got tackled in the hallway.

01:33:14.000 Well, if he shot four times in a packed hallway, you think it would have hit one person as well.

01:33:18.000 He hit the Secret Service agent.

01:33:19.000 Is that true?

01:33:20.000 The official story is he fired and hit a Secret Service agent in the chest, and then they subdued him.

01:33:25.000 There was a camera every inch of that place, and we don't have footage of him running.

01:33:29.000 We do.

01:33:30.000 They posted footage of him riding.

01:33:31.000 There's security footage of him kind of running, but you just think we'd have him shooting the gun.

01:33:35.000 All I know is it's probably real, but now we've lost so much trust in the government that I'm not surprised at everybody on the internet saying it's fake.

01:33:41.000 Actually, I think this is a really good example of how the left is organizing to win politics.

01:33:41.000 I think that's what we're going to do.

01:33:47.000 So, like the example that I like to use is Rumble, for instance.

01:33:51.000 The narrative early on when Rumble launched was that the views were fake.

01:33:55.000 And this was pushed by libs who wanted to censor people on YouTube primarily.

01:34:01.000 And it's pushed today by people who don't like, primarily, Dan Bongino.

01:34:05.000 The only issue is, like, for us, all I can say is, like, I track the analytics and it's the same analytics we've always had.

01:34:09.000 We've seen minor growth.

01:34:11.000 Our viewership, same.

01:34:11.000 In fact, we've had the best sales numbers we've ever had in terms of ad sales in a political offseason because our viewership has been increasing with Rumble and we sell ads to that audience.

01:34:20.000 So, where is this narrative that people put out that Rumble views are not real?

01:34:24.000 It's intended to say, stay on YouTube, stay on YouTube where we can ban you.

01:34:30.000 And then when you go to a platform that's saying, we won't ban you, the narrative emerges, your views aren't real, and the advertisers pull out.

01:34:36.000 Well, guess what?

01:34:37.000 We've sold more in ads in the past two months than we ever have on Rumble.

01:34:42.000 We've made more money on Rumble than on YouTube.

01:34:44.000 Rumble is definitely disrupting the social media hosting video sites.

01:34:48.000 I mean, it's definitely one of the biggest.

01:34:49.000 I'm saying.

01:34:50.000 I think you could argue the kick in.

01:34:52.000 The narrative around the White House shooting being fake is all part of, in my opinion, either it could be emergent, but the libs, the left, the Democrats have been desperately trying to figure out how to shatter the right.

01:35:05.000 So, what do you do?

01:35:06.000 There's a handful of things you can do lie, cheat, and steal.

01:35:09.000 Put money into Google for content that is anti Trump and anti Erica Kirk, destroy Turning Print USA, kill Charlie Kirk, spread lies about your political enemies, and ban them off YouTube.

01:35:18.000 People are pissed that I said that that was a conspiracy.

01:35:20.000 I didn't know everybody here was a conspiracy.

01:35:22.000 What was a conspiracy?

01:35:23.000 The White House Correspondence Center.

01:35:24.000 I didn't know everybody was a conspiracy.

01:35:25.000 Because most people don't think this.

01:35:27.000 And what we're seeing online is mass formation psychosis.

01:35:32.000 That's part of it.

01:35:33.000 When it happened, I'm at a bar and everyone walks over to the TV and they stare at the screen as Trump was giving a dress and they show the security footage and the guy subdued and they're just going, wow.

01:35:41.000 Well, it's like every protest. 1.00

01:35:42.000 Trump is a pedophile. 1.00

01:35:43.000 Trump is a pedophile. 1.00

01:35:44.000 Yet the last four years of Biden was in office, they didn't spend any time or resources trying to throw him in jail for being a pedophile. 1.00

01:35:49.000 So I think it just proves that he was.

01:35:51.000 My point ultimately is you've got a lot of people saying things like, man, I'm seeing online, everyone thinks the shooting was staged.

01:35:57.000 It's like, no, you saw a video with 500 comments claiming that you thought that was everybody.

01:36:02.000 Yeah.

01:36:03.000 Well, we've lost trust in the government, too.

01:36:04.000 Well, you shouldn't have had it.

01:36:06.000 Let's talk about Elon Musk.

01:36:07.000 From the New York Post Elon Musk set for major SpaceX payday if he settles 1 million people on Mars. 0.99

01:36:14.000 This has to be the stupidest thing I've ever heard. 0.99

01:36:17.000 It got approval in January. 0.99

01:36:18.000 He would get 200 million super voting restricted shares of stock as long as the colony is permanent, has at least 1 million residents, and SpaceX has hit a market valuation of $7.5 trillion.

01:36:29.000 The time frame on this that it has to happen by?

01:36:32.000 I don't know.

01:36:33.000 Bro, how do you even ferry 1 million people?

01:36:37.000 Well, I mean, it's going to take.

01:36:40.000 Are we going to even act like this is real?

01:36:42.000 That's my point.

01:36:43.000 Type in Devon Island, NASA. 0.87

01:36:43.000 It's ridiculous. 0.87

01:36:45.000 You can look it up right now, Tim, on your computer. 0.95

01:36:47.000 Oh, no.

01:36:48.000 Yes, dude.

01:36:49.000 I don't believe that we have anything on Mars right now, dude.

01:36:51.000 There's no way we're on Mars sending a video live feedback.

01:36:55.000 What is Devon Island?

01:36:56.000 Devon Island, type in Devon Island, NASA.

01:36:58.000 That's where they expose them filming.

01:37:00.000 They expose all of this quote unquote Mars rocks.

01:37:03.000 It's the exact same as Devon Island.

01:37:05.000 Type in Devon Island, NASA.

01:37:06.000 You mean this Mars researchers rendezvous on a remote Arctic island?

01:37:09.000 Are you saying that the Curiosity probe wasn't real?

01:37:12.000 Are you saying there's nothing on Mars right now, dude? 1.00

01:37:15.000 If you believe that, you're an idiot. 1.00

01:37:16.000 And I know that's going to be mad disrespectful to a lot of people in the chat, maybe Tim. 1.00

01:37:20.000 But yeah, dude, I don't think that they have a freaking thing on Mars right now.

01:37:23.000 Alex, Alex.

01:37:25.000 Alex.

01:37:25.000 I don't believe it.

01:37:27.000 I'm from Mars.

01:37:28.000 Yeah, I know.

01:37:29.000 Maybe you probably are a Martian.

01:37:31.000 Elon Trump and I came here at the same time together.

01:37:33.000 Barron actually was already here.

01:37:34.000 He left early.

01:37:35.000 And there's already a Mars colony.

01:37:37.000 So this is actually a setup because now Elon's going to pretend like he builds it.

01:37:42.000 We've been there the whole time.

01:37:43.000 Us Martians have been around on Earth for a while.

01:37:46.000 And you see what happened is our peoples terraformed Earth a long time ago.

01:37:50.000 And we moved our base to Mars for the past 10,000 years. 0.97

01:37:54.000 And we're now going to take back over the government of Earth.

01:37:56.000 But we need a one world government so we can control everybody.

01:37:58.000 Well, Ronald Reagan did say it, and other presidents have said it.

01:38:01.000 The only unifying Force that would unify the entire world would be an outside alien threat, and that's how they would start the one world order.

01:38:07.000 A new world order would be a fake alien invasion.

01:38:10.000 They're trying.

01:38:11.000 So, what is this Devon Island you're talking about?

01:38:14.000 I'll find it right now.

01:38:15.000 I know, but NASA said that they do research on Devon Island in 2002.

01:38:18.000 Yeah, so there's a bunch of images where they actually took a real picture of Devon Island and they took images of quote unquote Mars, and it's exactly the same.

01:38:26.000 So, all I'm saying, just type in Devon Island exposed.

01:38:28.000 It's just, I don't believe that something's on Mars right now, and then they make all these stories.

01:38:32.000 Oh, Elon's going to put a million people there and get $7.5 trillion. 1.00

01:38:35.000 It's all fake, it's all gay. 1.00

01:38:36.000 Yeah, shout out, Candace. 1.00

01:38:39.000 I just don't like it.

01:38:40.000 Why are you shouting her out in that?

01:38:41.000 Just to troll you, just a little bit.

01:38:42.000 I thought you'd get mad. 0.96

01:38:43.000 But I figured.

01:38:44.000 I didn't know if she'd said something about Mars being.

01:38:46.000 No, she's a flat earther, big time. 0.57

01:38:48.000 So. 0.95

01:38:49.000 Well, no one ever accused her of being smart.

01:38:51.000 Well, to be fair, I did call her smart, so.

01:38:53.000 You did win. 0.89

01:38:54.000 Yeah, I said, I think she is super smart. 0.99

01:38:56.000 I think she's a genius.

01:38:57.000 Oh, okay.

01:38:58.000 Well, I've only heard you say the C word, and that wasn't very nice.

01:39:00.000 Well, that's different.

01:39:01.000 I think she's a genius.

01:39:02.000 I think everything she's doing is intentional.

01:39:04.000 I think her mispronunciations are intentional, too.

01:39:07.000 Those are funny.

01:39:08.000 Right, because it's like George W. Bush.

01:39:11.000 It's relatable to regular people to be an everyman.

01:39:14.000 And Candace, she does the Stanley Cup.

01:39:16.000 She says debacle and kerflaffle and things like that.

01:39:19.000 And so people view her as relatable and like them.

01:39:23.000 Yeah, I think there is an argument to that.

01:39:25.000 But yeah, Devin Island, I think that Mars, give me a break.

01:39:28.000 And dude, the Artemis mission that they just did, they showed us the one picture of the backside of the moon.

01:39:32.000 We got 4K cameras on our cell phones.

01:39:34.000 They couldn't put a camera on the outside of it and give us like a good video of it.

01:39:37.000 And outside of what?

01:39:39.000 Artemis, the dark side of the moon, the part of the moon that no human being has ever seen.

01:39:42.000 We've never even taken a picture of it.

01:39:44.000 That's not true.

01:39:45.000 The dark side of the moon?

01:39:46.000 So, first, there's no such thing as a dark side of the moon.

01:39:49.000 The back side of the moon.

01:39:50.000 We have photos of it from satellites.

01:39:52.000 You have fake photos.

01:39:52.000 Oh, my.

01:39:53.000 So, once again, no, By all means, generated images.

01:39:56.000 If you want to argue we've never gone there, fine.

01:39:58.000 But to first start by saying we've never gotten a photo, and then, like, we have, you go, yeah, well, it's fake then.

01:40:03.000 Pick one, bro.

01:40:04.000 No, it's consistent.

01:40:04.000 It's probably a fake photo on some satellite that's probably on a balloon anyway, because it doesn't even make sense how satellites work.

01:40:10.000 Here's the truth, Alex.

01:40:11.000 See, that is more likely.

01:40:13.000 I'm not. 0.98

01:40:14.000 I know that, oh, Alex is so dumb, but I'll tell you, there's Parts of the earth that is unexplored. 0.97

01:40:19.000 I'm not saying there's all these extra outer lands, but. 0.98

01:40:21.000 Bro, you know how awesome that would be if this was true?

01:40:23.000 You know, there's, I think it's the 60th parallel.

01:40:26.000 There's no independent investigation of the.

01:40:26.000 No, let's do it.

01:40:28.000 Let's get a plane.

01:40:29.000 I can afford it.

01:40:29.000 And we will fly over the ice wall.

01:40:31.000 I know.

01:40:32.000 And we'll look up General Admiral Byrd in this long shine.

01:40:35.000 We're going to make it to Atlantis, bro.

01:40:37.000 Well, it's not that it's hollow earth, but he did say this is one of the first generals in American history to go explore Antarctica, said that it was so big and that it wasn't just ice.

01:40:46.000 There's actually tropical areas.

01:40:48.000 You can type in General Admiral Byrd talking about how.

01:40:51.000 Antarctica was not exactly how people thought, and that there's enough resources in just Antarctica enough to supply the land.

01:40:56.000 That's where we all live, actually.

01:40:57.000 Wait, so does this mean like me, Trump, and Elon are from southern Antarctica where it's all tropical and abundant?

01:41:02.000 Is this the stuff about the ice wall?

01:41:04.000 Elon, because he's just knocking up Ashley St. Clair and she won't shut her mouth up on the internet.

01:41:08.000 I mean, so his judgment can't be that good. 0.98

01:41:10.000 He's getting a space nutting in any crazy girl. 0.52

01:41:14.000 Shout out Ashley St. Clair.

01:41:15.000 I'm on Team Ashley.

01:41:16.000 But you know what I mean? 0.96

01:41:17.000 If he's so smart, why is he just having all these baby mamas and signing NDAs and not expecting that to backfire?

01:41:22.000 Because he's from the future. 0.78

01:41:24.000 Trump is probably from the future.

01:41:26.000 You know what's really funny is that you saw those pictures?

01:41:28.000 Yes.

01:41:29.000 From 18 something, whatever, that were golden buses that said Trump on them.

01:41:33.000 No.

01:41:34.000 You saw those, right?

01:41:34.000 Dude, okay.

01:41:35.000 Well, I know about the book.

01:41:36.000 No, no, you didn't see those?

01:41:37.000 No, no, no.

01:41:38.000 But then, if you actually look at the storyline of Back to the Future, it actually coincides exactly with Donald Trump because you have Biff has the big casino.

01:41:38.000 Oh, wow.

01:41:47.000 And I always thought that was a lot like Donald Trump.

01:41:48.000 And they base it.

01:41:49.000 They admit that they base it.

01:41:50.000 Look at these images.

01:41:52.000 Some guy in the 1800s drew these golden buses that say Trump on them, and there's a blonde guy driving them. 0.96

01:41:57.000 What are the chances? 0.94

01:41:58.000 And it says $45.99.

01:42:00.000 And so, what I'm saying is, Trump's in his time machine, right?

01:42:03.000 And he lands in like 1892, where this Charles Delshaw is sitting there, like drawing a picture.

01:42:09.000 And he looks up, and then this vehicle appears in front of him.

01:42:12.000 And then Trump gets out and looks around.

01:42:14.000 He goes, Baron, you put in the wrong date.

01:42:16.000 We're in 1892.

01:42:18.000 We need to go to 1992.

01:42:19.000 Let's get back in.

01:42:20.000 And then they disappear again.

01:42:22.000 And then this guy starts drawing the sketch of this golden.

01:42:25.000 Okay, I got to tell you, if Trump was going to build a time machine, it would look like that.

01:42:29.000 You know, Trump is actually known as being an artist, and he actually loves to draw and supposedly drew.

01:42:34.000 I've seen a picture.

01:42:34.000 I don't know if that's real.

01:42:35.000 I'm telling you, Trump is the kind of guy who would put his name on the side of his time machine.

01:42:38.000 Dude, type in the book about Barron.

01:42:39.000 I know, yeah.

01:42:40.000 So that, and then.

01:42:42.000 The Underground Adventures of Barron Trump.

01:42:43.000 And then you look at the connection of his uncle was the guy that went through Tesla's, you know, when Tesla died, it was actually his uncle that supposedly went through his safe.

01:42:50.000 So I know it's highly unlikely that he is a time traveler, but then also if you look at a thing called Mandela effects, where we remember things wrong, like Chick fil A or Shazam.

01:42:59.000 Well, you know what I'm saying, right?

01:43:01.000 Trump went back to the 80s on accident because they got the date wrong.

01:43:05.000 And while they were trying to get fuel, they had to get liquor to put back in the time machine.

01:43:11.000 He accidentally bumped a glass of coffee, which spilled on the manuscript.

01:43:15.000 The butterfly effect.

01:43:16.000 It spilled on the manuscript for the Berenstein Bears and it smudged the E into an A.

01:43:20.000 Well, we're on a different timeline.

01:43:22.000 And that's how it was.

01:43:22.000 And then he's like, oh no, we turned the Berenstein into Berenstein.

01:43:25.000 Nobody will notice.

01:43:26.000 And then all of a sudden everyone's like, my memory, what's going on?

01:43:29.000 And now it's spelled with an A instead of an E. Root of the Loom had a cornucopia, dude.

01:43:33.000 They said that the logo never had a cornucopia.

01:43:35.000 Do you know this Mandela effect?

01:43:37.000 Yeah, of course.

01:43:38.000 My favorite is the people who started making their own Fruit of the Loom shirts with the cornucopia and putting them in thrift stores.

01:43:44.000 They had the cornucopia.

01:43:46.000 Dude, they had the cornucopia.

01:43:47.000 I don't know what I'm saying.

01:43:48.000 But now, people, because of that, people have actually screen printed their own version of it.

01:43:52.000 That is part of how it happens.

01:43:54.000 There's recreated famous movie lines in other media, and so then they recreate it incorrectly, right?

01:44:02.000 Explain this.

01:44:08.000 And it's got a bunch of meat and veggies, and it's a flute making the cornucopia, which many people said was meant to be a play on Fruit of the Loom in 1973.

01:44:20.000 And so people are like, how did a guy satirize Fruit of the Loom with Fruit of the Loom if it never had a cornucopia?

01:44:26.000 I agree.

01:44:27.000 I think it's like, if you build it, he will come, but it's if you build it, he will come, not if you build it, they will come.

01:44:34.000 No, I think there was something with the cornucopia that was like that, but it wasn't Fruit of the Loom.

01:44:39.000 No, no, listen, listen.

01:44:40.000 The CIA is trying to see if they can mass formation psychosis people.

01:44:46.000 They're trying to see who will believe it and who won't.

01:44:48.000 So everybody knows a thing is true for the Lumetacornucopia.

01:44:52.000 They then go on to the network database.

01:44:55.000 They tell the AI to delete all instances and rewrite everything they claim it never did.

01:44:59.000 And then they want to see who accepts the new reality and who doesn't.

01:45:02.000 They're finding who's deviant.

01:45:04.000 Well, when they took out, excuse me, when they found the guy that the pilot that crashed in Iran.

01:45:12.000 They even said that they ran a disinformation campaign on the citizens there so they wouldn't know where the guy was.

01:45:17.000 Like, they actually put out fake media hits as if, oh, he's in this area and he wasn't.

01:45:22.000 So, if they're running disinformation campaigns at the snap of their fingers in foreign countries, you don't think they're running one right now, though, Tim?

01:45:29.000 You don't think the CIA is probably cooking the books and trying to influence us to think a certain way?

01:45:34.000 In what, like the CIA is manipulating everybody?

01:45:36.000 Yeah, because they have.

01:45:36.000 Of course they are.

01:45:37.000 No, I'm just saying.

01:45:37.000 What do you say?

01:45:38.000 Yeah, they're dumping millions into social media to make everybody anti Trump because they're trying to win.

01:45:43.000 You think they're making them anti Trump?

01:45:45.000 That's what they're.

01:45:46.000 Yeah, I know that the CIA doesn't like Trump, but.

01:45:48.000 What Trump is doing right now, it appears, surface level, low probability, but decent probability.

01:45:53.000 Choking off the Strait of Hormuz is shutting down OPEC and shifting oil production and oil controls directly to the United States, which disrupts the liberal economic order.

01:46:00.000 It's cut China off. 0.75

01:46:01.000 That is the benefit of this war the fact that Europe and these Asian countries are going to have to be more reliant on America.

01:46:05.000 And what did it used to be? 0.75

01:46:06.000 It used to be that the U.S. had to plead with Saudi Arabia to control oil levels.

01:46:11.000 And what was Joshua Lesser was calling it supranationalism?

01:46:16.000 It's not so much one world government, but the structure of the world was the U.S. is the military, OPEC produces the energy, right?

01:46:23.000 There are certain hubs.

01:46:24.000 They were creating economic blocks.

01:46:26.000 Trump is.

01:46:27.000 Making everything US centric, so they're desperately trying to stop him.

01:46:31.000 USAID got shut down and they're trying to recenter in Virginia.

01:46:33.000 That's what they've been doing with all these laws and all these changes.

01:46:37.000 And now they're dumping money into big tech to shift the political opinions.

01:46:42.000 I think there's an elitist civil war happening where powerful elites are fighting each other in the, you know.

01:46:48.000 Now you're going to have to go to Saudi Arabia and ask them to make Rush Hour 4 because they're going to own almost all of Paramount.

01:46:54.000 Well, they do own a bunch of the old movies and stuff.

01:46:57.000 But listen.

01:46:59.000 Is Tucker being paid by Qatar?

01:47:00.000 I don't know if there's any evidence for that, but I do think that Tucker realizes that young people, Tim, whether you want to admit it or not, whether you think it's like this, you know, things that's just going to change after the midterms, young people are very disenfranchised with the support of Israel and just blindly supporting it.

01:47:15.000 So I think that the tide is kind of turning and there's probably going to be an attention economy dedicated to anti Israel content that is probably going to get bigger, I would argue.

01:47:23.000 My concern with the funding of Israel.

01:47:25.000 You're saying there's going to be more anti Israel content? 0.90

01:47:27.000 I think so. 0.85

01:47:27.000 Why wouldn't Israel dump billions into pro Israel content? 0.85

01:47:30.000 They have.

01:47:30.000 No, but all they have to do is go into Google Ads.

01:47:32.000 Mm hmm.

01:47:33.000 So, what Israel could do is.

01:47:34.000 It's a little harder than that because you can't.

01:47:35.000 Oh, it's not.

01:47:36.000 Organically, yes, they can do that inorganically.

01:47:39.000 Let me explain it to you.

01:47:40.000 I asked before.

01:47:41.000 Okay.

01:47:41.000 But it doesn't have the same organic.

01:47:43.000 Let me explain it to you.

01:47:44.000 If you go on Google Ads and you say, I want to advertise on content that is pro Israel.

01:47:48.000 Yes.

01:47:49.000 YouTube will increase the viewership to sell the inventory.

01:47:52.000 So, what will happen then is if you make a video that is anti Israel, you'll get 100K.

01:47:57.000 Pro Israel gets 200K as long as the money in the inventory exists.

01:48:02.000 YouTube can flux their inventory based on what.

01:48:05.000 What they promote to make more money.

01:48:06.000 Yeah.

01:48:07.000 So if Israel said, let's put 10 billion on Google ads and put it onto content that is favorable towards Israel, the algorithm would put it on the front page.

01:48:15.000 Yes.

01:48:15.000 People are going to see it.

01:48:16.000 Cannabis would disappear overnight.

01:48:18.000 That content, regardless of how much it's recommended to people, probably will not change your mind.

01:48:22.000 It doesn't matter.

01:48:23.000 It'll be auto plagued to normies. 0.65

01:48:24.000 I don't know if you just, through osmosis, you hear a clip in the background, all of a sudden you become pro Israel.

01:48:29.000 I don't know if that's a reality.

01:48:31.000 So there was this woman, she has a viral video where she said she used to be a big fan of Turning Point until she realized. 0.93

01:48:37.000 Until she learned that the United States was under the control of a foreign nation. 0.99

01:48:41.000 That person who made that video and went viral has no idea what the fuck she's talking about. 0.98

01:48:45.000 She never would have known any of this had it not been for the YouTube videos that she watched about Erica Kirk and Israel. 0.94

01:48:52.000 Like, if this was not true, do you think Coca Cola would be buying advertisements the way they do?

01:48:57.000 The literal background Coke ad in Times Square generates a positive effect on Coca Cola.

01:49:03.000 Yeah, that's how we know the Artemis mission was fake on the moon because we'd already have a big sign on it.

01:49:07.000 It would be the best advertising spot in the world.

01:49:09.000 They'd have a huge.

01:49:11.000 Coca Cola sign on it or Nike sign.

01:49:13.000 So that's how I think the Artemis mission was fake.

01:49:15.000 Yeah, I just, with the Erica Kirk stuff too, you know, you look at the Drewski sketch, and I know Erica addressed that.

01:49:21.000 That thing was so big.

01:49:22.000 That's probably, you know, the sketch I'm talking about.

01:49:24.000 I mean, just saying.

01:49:24.000 Yeah.

01:49:25.000 So, because maybe that's not an organic, is all I'm trying to say.

01:49:28.000 Because it's being promoted.

01:49:31.000 That was definitely promoted.

01:49:31.000 Yeah, it is.

01:49:32.000 Right.

01:49:33.000 So, who's promoting Erica Kirk content and why? 1.00

01:49:35.000 She's not a politician. 1.00

01:49:36.000 She doesn't affect policy. 1.00

01:49:38.000 She really doesn't matter at all. 0.98

01:49:40.000 She does matter.

01:49:41.000 Why? 0.81

01:49:42.000 Because she's one of the most influential people in America now, whether people want to admit that or not.

01:49:45.000 No, she's not.

01:49:46.000 Erica Kirk?

01:49:47.000 Yeah.

01:49:48.000 How?

01:49:48.000 Yeah, she is.

01:49:49.000 What does she do? 1.00

01:49:49.000 She runs the biggest young political action group in the world. 1.00

01:49:54.000 And who showed up to their event in Georgia?

01:49:57.000 Well, I mean, that was kind of a goofball situation.

01:49:59.000 But regardless, Turning Point is still the biggest.

01:50:02.000 Erica is not on the show promoting it.

01:50:05.000 Colvitt is. 0.96

01:50:07.000 She's a figurehead that does very little. 0.78

01:50:09.000 She's probably not even running. 1.00

01:50:10.000 She does a lot.

01:50:11.000 I don't believe it for a second.

01:50:12.000 You don't see.

01:50:13.000 I think one of the biggest things you know that she's done.

01:50:16.000 Name something you know that she's done.

01:50:18.000 She goes and speaks at every high school that wants to have her.

01:50:22.000 That wants to ever. 0.98

01:50:23.000 So, how many has she done?

01:50:24.000 A lot.

01:50:24.000 What is a lot?

01:50:25.000 I don't know.

01:50:25.000 Give me the number.

01:50:26.000 I'm telling you, bro.

01:50:26.000 20?

01:50:28.000 Once a week, it looks like.

01:50:29.000 I don't know.

01:50:29.000 This is the example I try to give to people.

01:50:30.000 I'm just saying she does work.

01:50:32.000 When the Covington kids, when the video went viral, the Covington kids on the Lincoln stairs, and everybody said this kid got in the Indian's face, the Native American's face, conservatives were condemning him.

01:50:43.000 Philip DeFranco condemned him.

01:50:45.000 And then I got sent this video and I said, What is it?

01:50:48.000 And they said, Look what the kid is doing.

01:50:50.000 I said, I don't know what he's doing. 1.00

01:50:51.000 And they're like, He's in the face of that Indian guy. 1.00

01:50:52.000 And I'm like, I just see two people standing in front of each other. 1.00

01:50:55.000 Turns out.

01:50:57.000 I did some digging with some help from the audience. 1.00

01:50:59.000 The Native American got in his face. 1.00

01:51:01.000 So my video was like, you are all wrong. 0.97

01:51:05.000 This guy got in his face.

01:51:06.000 Why are people attacking him? 0.95

01:51:07.000 And then the narrative flipped because people realized, oh crap, we were wrong.

01:51:11.000 All I do all day is watch videos, research, and fact check stories.

01:51:15.000 And for the life of me, there is no coherent argument that Erica Kirk is influential.

01:51:20.000 I don't mean that to be disrespectful to her.

01:51:22.000 She's obviously a well known person, but she is only well known externally, meaning.

01:51:28.000 You don't watch her go do things.

01:51:30.000 You hear about her from someone else.

01:51:33.000 She's pretty influential with Vance, with. 0.95

01:51:35.000 She's not passing laws. 0.98

01:51:37.000 She's not a CEO of a Fortune 500 that's functioning in the Chinese infrastructure. 0.70

01:51:40.000 Organizing door knocking campaigns for.

01:51:43.000 She is not doing these things.

01:51:44.000 She's a CEO of a company.

01:51:45.000 The point is, this narrative that she must be important comes from other people.

01:51:54.000 Apple, Tim Cook, is known because he goes on stage to sell a product.

01:51:58.000 Yeah.

01:51:59.000 Erica Kirk.

01:52:00.000 Has done interviews about Charlie, but her public appearances are relatively minimal for the organization she is involved in.

01:52:06.000 She'll get millions of views.

01:52:09.000 Her public perception, like her public presence, is minimal compared to comparable organizations.

01:52:17.000 I don't know.

01:52:18.000 Bro, what's a comparable organization?

01:52:20.000 What's the Fortune 500 company?

01:52:22.000 What's a, well, I mean, I don't know if because part of their company is a non profit, right?

01:52:28.000 So I don't know if they're really competing on a for profit company, but I know they have Turning Point Action, which is a non profit company, but 95% of Of Erica Kirk appearances are external, not her.

01:52:41.000 95% of the videos you will see about Erica Kirk are coming from externalities.

01:52:45.000 Somebody is comparing it, not from her.

01:52:47.000 It's not her.

01:52:48.000 Someone will take a screenshot of Erica Kirk and then make a video about it.

01:52:51.000 You will see.

01:52:52.000 Everybody that saw Charlie's assassination had a visceral response and they were affected by it.

01:52:57.000 So now in the legacy of Charlie.

01:52:59.000 Yeah, Candace said that Erica killed Charlie Kirk.

01:53:03.000 I don't know if she said it like that.

01:53:04.000 She literally did.

01:53:04.000 She did.

01:53:05.000 They leaked a text message.

01:53:05.000 She said that.

01:53:07.000 I'm just.

01:53:07.000 I'm not saying she did.

01:53:08.000 Let me stop you right there.

01:53:09.000 They leaked a text message.

01:53:10.000 But she said she shot the gun.

01:53:11.000 I don't think that.

01:53:12.000 A woman who was texting with Candace released a screenshot of the message where Candace said, My first question, why did you kill your husband?

01:53:20.000 Did she say that on the podcast or was that a leaked text?

01:53:22.000 It's a leaked text message.

01:53:23.000 Well, that's a little different than saying on her podcast.

01:53:25.000 I mean, you're asking that.

01:53:26.000 Well, on her podcast, she said, Jail, right to jail.

01:53:31.000 There is no way that I can believe she wasn't complicit in this.

01:53:34.000 Yeah, I don't think Erica Kirk had anything to do with Charlie's death.

01:53:36.000 I'm just saying, I think Candace has been a little more nuanced with what she says.

01:53:40.000 I think she says that she had prior knowledge that she didn't actually.

01:53:43.000 You're wrong.

01:53:44.000 Okay, maybe she did say Erica Kirk. 0.91

01:53:45.000 She said jail. 1.00

01:53:46.000 I don't watch Candace. 1.00

01:53:47.000 Indeed.

01:53:48.000 My point is this the only time a regular person hears about Erica Kirk is when someone else brings her up for an unrelated reason.

01:53:56.000 That's my point.

01:53:57.000 There is no instance where Erica Kirk does a press release. 0.99

01:54:02.000 We're doing a new campaign in front of 10,000 people.

01:54:05.000 She speaks at some events, but there's a ton of prominent people who speak at events no one talks about.

01:54:11.000 Right?

01:54:13.000 And Shapiro, Michael Knowles just spoke at an event.

01:54:13.000 Yeah.

01:54:16.000 Is anybody talking about that?

01:54:18.000 Nobody's talking about that.

01:54:19.000 Maybe not in the real world.

01:54:20.000 A lot of people aren't talking about, oh, Michael Knowles and Matt Walsh.

01:54:23.000 Erica Kirk is not passing laws.

01:54:26.000 She is not doing anything of substantive consequence right now.

01:54:28.000 I think they did pass some laws where they're putting Turning Point USA, the high school organization, in all high schools.

01:54:33.000 But regardless, I get it that you don't think she's as big of a political force as Charlie.

01:54:37.000 It's not that I believe it. 0.98

01:54:38.000 It's factually shitty. 0.93

01:54:39.000 And I think that's fair because Charlie was unlike anybody else. 0.85

01:54:42.000 The question then becomes why is she promoted in the algorithms on all of these platforms?

01:54:47.000 Well, one thing.

01:54:48.000 Look, I'll tell you this.

01:54:50.000 You want some conspiracy theories?

01:54:51.000 First and most obvious who killed Charlie Kirk?

01:54:53.000 If it wasn't Tyler Robinson, or maybe it was, who stands to gain the most?

01:54:58.000 Deep state, liberal economic order, Democrat, uniparty.

01:55:01.000 He was the one who got people to vote for Donald Trump.

01:55:03.000 He stood by him no matter what.

01:55:05.000 Why then are all these big tech platforms now destroying Turning Point going after Erica?

01:55:09.000 It's to character assassinate and kill his legacy and make sure Turning Point can't be effective.

01:55:13.000 That is the most likely conspiracy.

01:55:16.000 Yeah, it could be. 0.60

01:55:17.000 Tyler Robinson, from all accounts, was in a gay relationship.

01:55:20.000 Like he might have been quote unquote conservative when he was a little younger, but it looks like he was a left leaning motivated attack.

01:55:26.000 And there were people with foreknowledge, but we got to get Rumble rants and super chats in because I'm having too fun arguing with Alex over here.

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01:56:55.000 Now let's grab Yo Rumble Rants to the Jets. 0.92

01:56:58.000 Jailer says Alex, what was it like to be sexually assaulted by that trans person in Chicago? 0.78

01:57:05.000 It was kind of fun, honestly, because it was a biological female to male, so it's not gay, so I'm okay with it. 0.94

01:57:13.000 Oh, good. 0.98

01:57:14.000 I don't have like a great fantasy.

01:57:16.000 Oh, man.

01:57:16.000 What's I'm just someone just mentioned, mentioned, uh, mentioned, uh, messaged me.

01:57:22.000 Tucker Carlson's promoting Animal Farm now, too.

01:57:24.000 Oh, man.

01:57:26.000 Tucker's a communist now, busted. 0.99

01:57:28.000 It's, it's, it's as simple as this if you accept money to promote that film, you're a grifter with no integrity. 0.98

01:57:36.000 But, real quick, you watched the whole movie.

01:57:38.000 It wasn't there.

01:57:39.000 It didn't have like a conservative slant at all.

01:57:42.000 Okay.

01:57:42.000 And I trust you.

01:57:43.000 I don't think you.

01:57:43.000 Let me tell you what the film's about.

01:57:45.000 Yeah.

01:57:45.000 The film starts.

01:57:46.000 It's about the book.

01:57:47.000 It's not about the book.

01:57:48.000 It's completely unrelated.

01:57:49.000 Old Major is not in the film.

01:57:50.000 Oh, really?

01:57:51.000 I don't know.

01:57:51.000 So, Old Major is an extremely important character in the book.

01:57:54.000 He's the old, I remember how good it used to be.

01:57:57.000 He rallies people and says it can be better.

01:57:59.000 Doesn't exist in the film.

01:58:01.000 The animals are happy and they like their farm.

01:58:03.000 They're going on vacation.

01:58:04.000 Turns out Farmer Jones couldn't pay his mortgage.

01:58:07.000 So, Elon Musk's mom purchased the animals in the farm.

01:58:10.000 Purchase the debt so that when the bank was coming in the actual movie, Elon Musk.

01:58:14.000 Oh, that's.

01:58:15.000 Well, no, it's Frieda Pilkington, but she drives a cyber truck and she looks like Mae Musk. 1.00

01:58:18.000 Yeah, that's what they're trying to insinuate.

01:58:20.000 Everybody agrees when you see this.

01:58:20.000 Indeed.

01:58:22.000 She's in the trailer.

01:58:23.000 So Farmer Jones can't pay his mortgage. 0.99

01:58:25.000 So Frieda Pilkington goes to the bank and acquires the property after they go to liquidate. 0.81

01:58:29.000 The animals, fearing death, chase off her employees.

01:58:33.000 But the bank says, no, no, no, someone's got to pay the mortgage.

01:58:37.000 So he's like, I'll be back in a week.

01:58:39.000 The animals team up and hold a big market to raise money together.

01:58:43.000 When they go to pay the banker, he says, This is too much.

01:58:46.000 I'm taking this, you keep the rest. 0.98

01:58:48.000 The pigs then get to keep the profit.

01:58:50.000 So, what do we do with it? 0.96

01:58:51.000 He says, Go spend it.

01:58:53.000 So, they go to the mall and they buy a bunch of stuff.

01:58:55.000 The animals get mad that they're doing all the work, but the pigs are taking all the profit.

01:59:00.000 So, Napoleon wants to buy a car, but doesn't have enough money.

01:59:04.000 Elon Musk's mom helps him get a credit card, but then he can't pay off his credit card debt.

01:59:09.000 So, he cuts a deal with her to sell the farm in a private equity acquisition.

01:59:12.000 So she can liquidate the animals and the farmland and use the farm properties and use the land to build the hydroelectric dam. 0.97

01:59:19.000 She can monetize turnkey.

01:59:20.000 The animals decide to revolt to keep their land to stop the corporation from taking it over.

01:59:25.000 So they plant explosives in a hydroelectric dam, blowing it up, killing her and all her employees.

01:59:29.000 Is that really what happens?

01:59:30.000 Yes. 0.92

01:59:30.000 The pig, the new character, Lucky, then kills Napoleon, swims out of the floodwaters, and says, We should not be forced to work. 0.92

01:59:40.000 We should just work for each other because we want to. 0.94

01:59:42.000 And then it pans up and says, The end.

01:59:45.000 Yeah, it looks like it's like anti big business, anti capitalism.

01:59:48.000 Andy Serkis explicitly stated he wanted to target themes of capitalism and overconsumption.

01:59:54.000 The funniest part about making an anti capitalist movie in Hollywood for that particular film is that they're not willing to.

02:00:00.000 Hollywood adjacent.

02:00:01.000 They're not willing to.

02:00:02.000 Well, no, this was made traditional Hollywood.

02:00:05.000 It was distributed by Angel Studios.

02:00:05.000 Oh, it was?

02:00:07.000 But the point is that Hollywood is one of those capitalist industries in the world.

02:00:12.000 And one of the reasons they'll make movies like this, even though they'll change the story completely, Is they're not willing to let Andy Serkis write a movie.

02:00:19.000 But you know more than anyone.

02:00:20.000 We got to try and read some more of these.

02:00:22.000 The capitalist thing is kind of not true. 1.00

02:00:23.000 Sorry to cut you off because they put a gay character in every movie and ruin it. 1.00

02:00:26.000 You know that. 1.00

02:00:27.000 You cover that up.

02:00:28.000 Here's the other issue, too.

02:00:29.000 There's not a single reference to Marxism or a single action of government in the whole film.

02:00:35.000 Not a single one.

02:00:36.000 The most egregious is that in the book, the pigs take the eggs from the chicken by force.

02:00:41.000 The chickens then complain, and Napoleon has the chickens executed by the dogs.

02:00:46.000 In the film, the chickens agree to sell their eggs in a big fundraiser, but then get mad because the pigs are taking the profit.

02:00:52.000 Literally, they're like, why are we doing the work, but they're spending the money on stuff at the mall?

02:00:59.000 It's like, bro.

02:01:01.000 We'll talk a little more in a second.

02:01:01.000 Anyway, let's read some more of these.

02:01:04.000 HS Disturbed says, What do you guys think?

02:01:05.000 Ballroom should be named after Charlie Kirk.

02:01:08.000 He could have been president, but never got the chance.

02:01:09.000 Agreed.

02:01:10.000 The Charlie Kirk Ballroom.

02:01:14.000 What was his middle name?

02:01:15.000 I don't know.

02:01:17.000 I don't know either.

02:01:18.000 Demetrius.

02:01:19.000 Kevin.

02:01:20.000 I don't know.

02:01:21.000 But, Brett, I'm sorry to cut you off.

02:01:22.000 I don't know.

02:01:23.000 I think they should name it after Charlie Kirk.

02:01:25.000 James.

02:01:27.000 Charles.

02:01:28.000 J. Kirk.

02:01:29.000 They tried to name a highway after Charlie, and that got shut down.

02:01:32.000 I think it's, you know, People kind of use it as a political rallying point, too, like how you said, the momentum of the left.

02:01:37.000 They use it to have somebody to attack.

02:01:39.000 Pinochet says, Alex, as an informed plumber in Massachusetts, I take offense to your comment.

02:01:44.000 Well, I didn't say that you weren't uninformed just because you're a plumber, but I were kind of using.

02:01:48.000 Because I said plumber, and then you said you added uninformed.

02:01:50.000 Well, because I was trying to go with like the old Joe Plummer slant, where the guy's just kind of an everyday American, not worried about who's in power, just trying to pay his bills.

02:01:59.000 The Fallen says, Martian colonist, quote, Earth was promised to us 2,000 years ago.

02:02:04.000 It'd be really funny if Martians actually exist and they come to Earth and they were like, a long time ago, we were chased off of Earth by you. 0.55

02:02:13.000 And that voice I'm doing is, in fact, not Native American.

02:02:15.000 It's a reference to Futurama.

02:02:17.000 That was a good cartoon. 0.86

02:02:18.000 The Martians and Futurama talk like this and they have headdresses because they're literally Native Americans.

02:02:23.000 They're called the Native Martians.

02:02:25.000 There's something weird about the pyramids. 1.00

02:02:26.000 How were they able to build that without any power tools?

02:02:29.000 I agree.

02:02:30.000 You don't know?

02:02:31.000 You're going to say slavery?

02:02:31.000 Slaves?

02:02:32.000 No.

02:02:33.000 Alex.

02:02:34.000 What?

02:02:35.000 When Earth was being terraformed, the original colonists had a mechanical failure on their ship.

02:02:41.000 And so they could not contact the homeworld.

02:02:43.000 So they created three large beacons with gold tips to blast a signal up to Orion's belt where the homeworld is located, and then they were rescued.

02:02:51.000 However, some of the colonists were left behind because there was infighting that led to the destruction of their, caused the mechanical failure.

02:02:58.000 And so those people left behind, that's who we are.

02:03:02.000 I mean, it's crazier things have happened.

02:03:04.000 All right.

02:03:05.000 Yeah, but Trump says Admiral Byrd never claimed that it was his daughter.

02:03:11.000 That proves it. 0.60

02:03:11.000 Well, that proves it. 0.60

02:03:12.000 Admiral Byrd is one that saw different tropical climates in Antarctica.

02:03:16.000 Neglectful sausage says WTF is welfare soda.

02:03:19.000 A bunch of conservative personalities all simultaneously posted on X. Why are they trying to ban soda?

02:03:26.000 If I get government benefits, I should be allowed to buy whatever drink I want.

02:03:30.000 This is communist to tell me that I can't buy soda with welfare benefits.

02:03:34.000 Well, to be fair, there is diet soda, so not all sodas are unhealthy.

02:03:38.000 How about this?

02:03:40.000 If you get welfare, you're only allowed to buy rice and tuna fish.

02:03:45.000 You would lose weight.

02:03:47.000 You'd get protein and starch and nothing else.

02:03:50.000 You get one chicken breast.

02:03:51.000 No, no seasoning.

02:03:53.000 Why do you get seasoning, bro?

02:03:53.000 Cheese.

02:03:53.000 Why would we?

02:03:54.000 Come on.

02:03:55.000 I get a little seasoning.

02:03:56.000 No, no.

02:03:57.000 Luxury is not for people being given free stuff salt.

02:04:00.000 They get salt and black pepper.

02:04:02.000 My friend's been down and out, and he lost his apartment, so I'm going to give him the master bedroom.

02:04:05.000 I think so.

02:04:06.000 No, you can sleep on the basement floor, bro.

02:04:08.000 I don't know if seasoning's a master bedroom, but okay.

02:04:10.000 I still believe that they deserve seasoning.

02:04:12.000 But why people don't even use it?

02:04:13.000 It anyway, but they probably use the least amount of social services.

02:04:15.000 But Brown Bear says, I can't wait to see how Republicans use the Supreme Court ruling to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

02:04:22.000 Yes, but intentionally.

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02:05:04.000 That's true.

02:05:05.000 Man, Alex, thanks for coming out.

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02:05:10.000 I like Admiral Bird.

02:05:11.000 How he flew over the whole hollow earth theory and got abducted into the earth by aliens.

02:05:16.000 I don't know if that's really true, but there's a lot of weird stuff.

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02:06:40.000 We actually had a good show today.

02:06:41.000 It was pretty big.

02:06:43.000 Viewership numbers were up something like 30, 40%, maybe.

02:06:46.000 No, I mean, no, probably 20, like, let's say 30% is probably a fair number.

02:06:51.000 Total concurrence peaked between platforms probably at like 40 to 42,000 because something big politically happened.

02:06:58.000 Supreme Court issued a ruling.

02:07:00.000 It's a landmark case.

02:07:01.000 It's going to reshape the structure of government.

02:07:03.000 People tuned in to watch.

02:07:05.000 And so our viewership is slightly higher.

02:07:07.000 When Swalwell was accused of rape, we got over a million views on that episode.

02:07:12.000 It was massive.

02:07:12.000 It was.

02:07:13.000 I think we got like 1.2 million total.

02:07:17.000 So it was huge. 0.99

02:07:18.000 I'm actually fairly optimistic, especially with all the conspiratar bullshit like the Israel posting. 1.00

02:07:18.000 And that's what I'm saying. 1.00

02:07:25.000 So I was just saying, Alex, our reachup was very high for this episode because there's big politics.

02:07:29.000 So we had between 40,000 and 42,000 concurrent viewers.

02:07:32.000 When Swalwell was accused of rape, we had like 1.3 million for the total show.

02:07:36.000 Oh, wow.

02:07:37.000 And this is my point nothing politically is happening right now that no one cares about.

02:07:41.000 Swalwell being accused of rape is salacious, and the Supreme Court ruling is landmark.

02:07:45.000 People tune back in, our viewership jumps.

02:07:48.000 What's going to happen in November?

02:07:49.000 We get the midterms.

02:07:51.000 Then, immediately after we go into primary season, then a presidential cycle.

02:07:54.000 So, we have three years of hot, escalating political action, just real hot and raunchy.

02:07:58.000 Well, it is going to get really hot. 1.00

02:08:00.000 What I was going to say is, I'm actually excited for the cycle because the retards that have shifted away from politics and into Erica Kirk conspiracy, they're going to lose that audience. 1.00

02:08:12.000 When people start tuning back into politics, we're going to capture that audience. 1.00

02:08:16.000 From them, it's like your election night streams had over 100,000 live viewers.

02:08:20.000 I mean, way more than that, but yeah, we did we did we did like three million on election night, yeah, uh, extended stream.

02:08:26.000 But having 100,000 live viewers is strong as it gets.

02:08:29.000 I mean, that's literally one of the highest.

02:08:31.000 They consider 100k like the barrier, yeah, consistently breaking it is big.

02:08:34.000 Candace breaks it every day when they charged Trump that one time.

02:08:36.000 We had over 100k. 0.99

02:08:37.000 I'm pretty sure you think Candace used bots, you know. 0.75

02:08:40.000 I think they're probably going to use I don't know, I don't know, I don't know if he does.

02:08:44.000 I'm not trying to call him out, but here's the thing say they're using bots.

02:08:50.000 The way the easiest way to brain fry somebody is I can just promote, I can go on Fiverr and say, Give this tweet 10,000 retweets.

02:09:00.000 Yeah.

02:09:01.000 And like, I can literally turn an Israel poster into a chef.

02:09:04.000 No joke. 0.55

02:09:06.000 Just sit there and wait for Ian Carroll to post something about what he had for lunch and then pay two Indian guys to give him a thousand retweets. 0.98

02:09:12.000 He's going to go, Wow. 0.97

02:09:12.000 Yeah. 0.97

02:09:14.000 I'm going to make another one of these.

02:09:15.000 Then he's going to make another post where he's like, I decided to do a Ruben today.

02:09:20.000 Sauerkraut, it's really good.

02:09:21.000 Then I pay a couple of Indian guys to give it 2,000 retweets. 0.96

02:09:25.000 That's what Barstool Sports allegedly does. 0.66

02:09:27.000 If you look at their tweets, it'll have like 10,000 likes, but like 100 retweets.

02:09:32.000 You know, the numbers don't even match up, or it'll have 1,000 likes and four retweets.

02:09:35.000 I don't know about that.

02:09:36.000 I try to be cautious on that because there was this period where people were using bot or not trackers on people's accounts.

02:09:44.000 They'd take your account, load it into an AI that would be like, it's 20% real and 80% bots.

02:09:50.000 The only problem was they kept saying celebrities had bot followers.

02:09:55.000 When in reality, celebrities had suggested user list followers, meaning there are a lot of accounts of people who never post.

02:10:02.000 They just log on to Twitter and read the feed and then close it out.

02:10:06.000 And these programs were calling those bots because they were inactive users that were following somebody.

02:10:12.000 So for Barstool, if you have a guy who signs up to read sports threads but doesn't post himself, they're going to be like, how come there's so many likes?

02:10:19.000 Well, these people are not active Twitter users, they're just followers of Barstool Sports.

02:10:23.000 Additionally, if they embed tweets on the website and people just hit like, Yeah, I know there are ways where it can kind of look funny and it's not artificial.

02:10:29.000 But again, more importantly, using Fiverr is the easiest way to do it. 0.94

02:10:34.000 All you have to do is just, I mean, you could literally, bro, you just call two Indian guys and say, so don't want you to do it. 1.00

02:10:40.000 You asked her to turf it. 0.99

02:10:41.000 No, no, no.

02:10:41.000 I want you to follow Ian Carroll anytime he makes a post about food.

02:10:47.000 I want you guys to give him a thousand likes, 500 retweets every time. 1.00

02:10:53.000 And then you pay, bro, you know what you got to pay an Indian guy to do this? 0.99

02:10:56.000 $20? 0.99

02:10:56.000 $5, yeah. 0.99

02:10:57.000 I'm saying you put him on a salary for $10K per year.

02:10:57.000 No, no, no.

02:11:00.000 You say, I'll pay you $800 a month to do this.

02:11:02.000 They're going to be like, I'm rich.

02:11:04.000 And then Ian Carroll.

02:11:05.000 Is going to notice all of his engagements coming from food related content.

02:11:09.000 And in his brain, he's going to be like, people love food content.

02:11:12.000 And then you give it a month and he's going to be posting videos making food in the kitchen.

02:11:16.000 Not an exaggeration, it's a known technique.

02:11:20.000 But I do want to rag on Animal Farm because people have deleted their comments.

02:11:28.000 Wall Street Mav deleted their post promoting it.

02:11:30.000 See, they did this completely wrong.

02:11:32.000 Instead of paying right wing people to say it was great, they should have paid left wing people to say it was awful.

02:11:37.000 They would burn their guild members.

02:11:41.000 I guess leftists right now are defending it.

02:11:44.000 Yeah.

02:11:44.000 Saying that what the left is saying is that it is anti communist.

02:11:49.000 How dare you?

02:11:50.000 Oh, they're saying the opposite.

02:11:51.000 They have totally.

02:11:52.000 Leftists are like, this movie is anti communist.

02:11:54.000 What are you talking about?

02:11:56.000 Yep.

02:11:57.000 So the question, I guess, is well, I don't know.

02:12:03.000 I'm just hung up on the Tucker's promoting it now.

02:12:06.000 Tucker promotes it.

02:12:08.000 He's old.

02:12:08.000 He does everything.

02:12:09.000 He's like, yeah, but it's one thing to promote communism.

02:12:12.000 I really want money. 1.00

02:12:13.000 But to be fair, I call that gay for pay. 0.77

02:12:16.000 It is a little gay for pay, but at the same exact time, Angel Studios, would you agree, and maybe you don't, that a lot of their past projects did have the right messaging, and maybe they've earned enough goodwill with the people that they pay, the influencers that they pay, that even though this might not ideologically align with what they're posting, because they've been. 0.51

02:12:35.000 Oh, wait, Emily Saves America just promoted it.

02:12:37.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:12:38.000 You're just, I mean, she's a huge account, so she got paid to do it. 0.85

02:12:42.000 But is she really a shill?

02:12:44.000 Because Angel Studios overall is probably a net positive for society.

02:12:49.000 They're better than Warner Brothers. 1.00

02:12:51.000 I am not going to risk the safety of my family for a bunch of fucking scumbag con artists. 1.00

02:12:56.000 I like your dedication. 1.00

02:12:57.000 I'm not even trying to call you out.

02:12:58.000 I'm just saying I think they have earned goodwill with some of these people that are present. 0.91

02:13:02.000 No, Angel Studios should have come out and said, we fucked this one up instead of lying incessantly.

02:13:08.000 Andy Serkis has given multiple interviews where he's outright said it's anti capitalist.

02:13:12.000 And they wouldn't come on the show.

02:13:14.000 And they scheduled it and then bailed.

02:13:17.000 And then rescheduled and bailed.

02:13:18.000 Like a drip.

02:13:18.000 Because they know the moment they sit down in the chair and I say, here's a quote from Andy Serkis, he wanted to be about capitalism, they're going to go, oh.

02:13:26.000 Yeah, but I'm surprised they wouldn't want that publicity like you were joking about how you would pay the left to.

02:13:30.000 Listen, my point is this Emily Saves America is promoting the film now. 0.82

02:13:34.000 These people are all liars. 1.00

02:13:37.000 I am not about to get in a boat with a bunch of fucking scumbags who saw a paycheck and said, I'll promote communism for money. 1.00

02:13:46.000 Do you know how much money we got offered to promote Animal Farm? 1.00

02:13:47.000 Mm hmm.

02:13:49.000 20,000, I don't know.

02:13:50.000 Five figures, I'm not gonna get into hard numbers, but it was much, much more than that. 0.60

02:13:55.000 And I said, no, I am not gonna take money to promote a film that besmirches Animal Farm, wears our traditions like a skin suit, and promotes communism.

02:14:06.000 Well, to be fair, though, you are able to be a little more picky and choosy because you are financially stable. 0.98

02:14:06.000 Not fucking happening. 0.98

02:14:12.000 You're wrong. 0.99

02:14:13.000 I am where I am because I have never taken bullshit from anybody. 0.66

02:14:18.000 And that's part of it, I think that's true.

02:14:19.000 I don't wanna debate you on that.

02:14:20.000 This is what the left likes to say.

02:14:22.000 During Occupy Wall Street, when I was broke and sleeping in a tent, they said, You're the perfect example of why capitalism has failed.

02:14:28.000 You're smart, you're hardworking, why don't you have money? 0.99

02:14:30.000 And then two months later, when I was featured in Time magazine, they started coming out saying Tim Poole was born rich and had a silver spoon up his ass. 1.00

02:14:38.000 They just flip because they're fucking scumbags. 1.00

02:14:41.000 There is nothing that would ever get me to take money to promote communism. 1.00

02:14:45.000 I would rather sleep in the fucking woods. 1.00

02:14:48.000 I love that. 1.00

02:14:49.000 Yeah, well, we're in a space where I'm expected to take shit from Merrick Garland being accused of being a Russian, where I get shit on by these fucking Israel lunatics, where these people drive by my house shooting at me for these. 1.00

02:15:02.000 Fucking scumbags who took a paycheck to promote a communist film. 1.00

02:15:08.000 I'm just sitting here saying, Why would I stick my neck out for these pieces of shit? 1.00

02:15:13.000 Well, I mean, I'm just playing devil's advocate, but nobody's really asking you to stick your neck out for them, though, right? 0.99

02:15:19.000 Like Emily Saves America is not looking for Tim Poole.

02:15:22.000 Tucker Carlson and all the rest of them, they're on the blacklist.

02:15:25.000 And I don't mean like they can't come on and debate.

02:15:27.000 I'm saying they are in the doghouse.

02:15:31.000 These people are identical to Democrats in my eyes.

02:15:35.000 Yeah, I mean, it's the influencer economy.

02:15:37.000 I mean, influencers aren't that.

02:15:39.000 No, the problem is, it is influencer economy, and you're being sold on somebody believing what they're saying.

02:15:44.000 So, if the idea here is that every other viewpoint that they have is anti communist and they share this movie, and to be fair, it could be subjective and maybe they don't see it in that movie, and that's fine.

02:15:54.000 But people aren't willing to give them the benefit of the doubt when it looks like they're reading from a script.

02:15:58.000 So, the problem is, if your word is everything because people are following you because they believe that you're saying what you believe, then paid advertisement is always risky.

02:16:08.000 Yeah, I mean, that's why they put the laws in where they have to say on Twitter whether it's a paid ad. 0.84

02:16:13.000 But I think people now are hip enough to know that if anybody's promoting something and doing an ad for it, it doesn't really mean that the people give a shit about the product that they're promoting. 0.62

02:16:22.000 I mean, and that's what it should be.

02:16:23.000 It should be that way, but it isn't always.

02:16:25.000 I do got to walk back a little bit and just say this.

02:16:28.000 As I search the hashtag on X, I'm actually not angry.

02:16:31.000 I'm filled with hope because the response from everybody is they are ripping these people to shreds for promoting it.

02:16:37.000 Because I'm going to just stress this.

02:16:40.000 You know, I had someone ask me, they told me that Angel had offered them a promo and they didn't, you know, they were like, I trust you.

02:16:47.000 You said you watched it.

02:16:48.000 And I said, Look, ask for a screener and see the movie yourself because maybe I'm wrong, right?

02:16:54.000 I stand by what I said and what I believe.

02:16:57.000 But here's the thing everyone who saw the trailer when it first came out knew right away that it was not Animal Farm.

02:17:05.000 And then when I watched it, Old Major, not in the film, snowballs in the film for maybe 10 minutes.

02:17:10.000 For people who don't know what that means, Old Major was supposed to repre. 0.99

02:17:13.000 Oh, fuck. 0.99

02:17:15.000 Old Major represented Lenin and Marx. 1.00

02:17:17.000 Idealistic, not violent or revolutionary, just basically saying, like, the people can have it better.

02:17:22.000 And he tells all the animals, you shouldn't tolerate this.

02:17:25.000 Farmer Jones was Tsar Nicholas. 1.00

02:17:27.000 They rebel against him, take over, and then the pigs, Napoleon is a fucking evil psychopath. 1.00

02:17:34.000 In the old movie in the 50s, he's like, all nasty looking. 1.00

02:17:39.000 In Animal Farm, the new movie, he's comic relief.

02:17:43.000 Who is tricked by the corporatist into getting credit card debt? 1.00

02:17:48.000 And then he gets mad, like, how am I supposed to give him magic paper every month for this stupid card? 0.90

02:17:53.000 And then she goes, well, if you sell the farm to me, then you'll have more than enough magic paper forever to pay off, to give the magic paper for the card. 0.98

02:18:04.000 And then they list all the animals they're going to sell off.

02:18:06.000 And the animals in Act Three is the first time there's a revolution.

02:18:11.000 Revolution is supposed to happen in the first page.

02:18:14.000 Act three.

02:18:15.000 The other thing about it, the point I was making earlier, is Hollywood is a very capitalist industry.

02:18:19.000 They do screw up and they do, but I would argue that the fact that Disney has paid lip service now to actually wanting to make changes and walking back a lot of the stuff that they were doing means that they are for profit entities and that's what they want.

02:18:31.000 But the thing is, this movie doesn't get made or it doesn't get the amount of attention it's getting if it doesn't have the name Animal Farm.

02:18:40.000 If they truly, if they were truly anti capitalist, they would make it under some other name.

02:18:44.000 They'd call it Pig Pen and let the chips fall when they met.

02:18:47.000 That's the issue.

02:18:48.000 They said, Andy Serkis probably said, I want to make an anti capitalist movie.

02:18:52.000 And they said, eh, no one's going to buy it.

02:18:54.000 And he said, What if we get a piece of literature that we can put the name on for branding?

02:18:59.000 You know, he's been trying to make this since 2012? 0.99

02:19:02.000 Fucking wild. 0.96

02:19:03.000 It's the most cynical form of capitalism to sell the anti capitalist movie in a way that could only be done because they had to wear the skin suit of a much more important property. 0.99

02:19:12.000 Well, and the fact that it's for kids, right? 0.70

02:19:16.000 You know, that kind of adds a little.

02:19:18.000 If this was like a live action thing where it's more adult oriented, maybe, but it's like they do want to indoctrinate young people by them watching a cartoon that is anti capitalist.

02:19:27.000 So it's like very subversive.

02:19:29.000 I'll tell you what's going to happen.

02:19:31.000 If any of these individuals ever come on my show or a show like it, the first question I have for them is how much did you get paid to promote an anti capitalist film?

02:19:39.000 They're going to say $1,500 or something.

02:19:40.000 Probably.

02:19:42.000 And then I'm going to say have there been other instances where you've promoted communism, anti capitalist, or attacked conservative values for pay?

02:19:51.000 I don't know.

02:19:52.000 All they had to do was pay Ed Krasenstein some money to say it was a great movie or to say that it was a bad movie, and then all the conservatives loved it.

02:19:58.000 Yeah.

02:19:59.000 Well, the funny thing is, what I'm hearing now is that they're selling, they're buying the promo spots, but not giving screeners.

02:20:05.000 So I don't know how true this is because I've only heard a little bit in the background.

02:20:08.000 Typically, what they do with it for us is they sent us a script, they committed to a large sum of money, and then sent us a screener to watch the movie.

02:20:15.000 The script they sent to me, they wanted me to explicitly state I was wrong about my opinion on the film, and that after watching it, I realized it was actually anti communist and good.

02:20:25.000 Did they raise your offer after you had the drama?

02:20:27.000 No.

02:20:28.000 No, that was the first mistake.

02:20:30.000 I think that would be kind of bad.

02:20:31.000 Well, actually, the first thing I said to my wife was like, How about I go back to them and say, I'll do the ad read for $5 million?

02:20:35.000 Yeah.

02:20:36.000 Only if I'm allowed to say they paid me $5 million for the ad read.

02:20:40.000 No, so instead I said, I'm going to post about this, that I'm rejecting the money outright.

02:20:44.000 And my wife was like, why don't you just call them and tell them?

02:20:46.000 And I said, because I know they're going to other conservatives, other right personalities who are accepting this deal right now.

02:20:51.000 And I want to make sure that my statement about rejecting this is before anyone starts promoting it.

02:20:56.000 Principally because, one, I don't want it to be that a bunch of people promote it.

02:21:02.000 Then I come out and say, hey guys, don't promote it.

02:21:04.000 And they're like, well, I already did.

02:21:06.000 And you're sour grapes.

02:21:07.000 No, no, I rejected it the moment they sent me the script because I wanted to preempt anybody doing promos for it.

02:21:13.000 So let's grab callers and see what the callers have to say.

02:21:17.000 We're going to start with Sinosky.

02:21:18.000 He's a caller.

02:21:21.000 Howdy, howdy.

02:21:22.000 What up, dude?

02:21:22.000 What up?

02:21:24.000 Oh, you know, lots of stuff. 0.93

02:21:26.000 So, Tim, I mean, we got to point out that the only successful thing communism has ever done is kill more communists. 0.92

02:21:32.000 Agreed.

02:21:32.000 So make sure you put that out there loud and proud.

02:21:36.000 Make sure everyone knows how great it is for that reason.

02:21:40.000 But more importantly, you know, Tim, I got to push back on you today.

02:21:44.000 Okay.

02:21:45.000 I got to push back on you today because, you know, you said something that kind of rankled the feathers a little bit.

02:21:51.000 This is interesting.

02:21:51.000 What is it?

02:21:52.000 I said be gay for pay only sometimes. 0.99

02:21:54.000 Let's see what. 0.99

02:21:56.000 No, no, no. 1.00

02:21:57.000 You're fine to be gay for pay. 1.00

02:21:58.000 That's fine. 0.98

02:21:59.000 You all got to make a living.

02:22:00.000 Yeah.

02:22:03.000 Oh, so what a day we've had with SCOTUS.

02:22:05.000 I mean, a lot of good things came out of there today.

02:22:09.000 Only one story really got the traction that it deserved, but there was so much.

02:22:13.000 And it's that one story that I got to push back on you, Tim.

02:22:16.000 Which earlier, like every outlet, you talked about the redistricting war and you said the wrong thing.

02:22:24.000 You said it was kicked off by Trump asking the red states to do a thing.

02:22:29.000 And that's partially true, but it's not.

02:22:33.000 So it started with Texas, which we all know.

02:22:36.000 And everyone is claiming that they did it at the behest of Trump.

02:22:40.000 When in reality, this stems from a 2022 DOJ case against.

02:22:46.000 Texas from the Biden administration, who said, you can't redistrict in the way that you want to.

02:22:52.000 Ironically, you know, going completely against what this ruling today said.

02:22:57.000 They were gerrymandering for that purpose.

02:22:59.000 And the Biden DOJ said, no, you can't do that.

02:23:01.000 You can't do that.

02:23:03.000 Last year, it ended up being ended in the DOJ.

02:23:07.000 The case was dismissed.

02:23:08.000 And Texas decided, okay, we did not get the opportunity to put out our map in 2022, like everyone else.

02:23:15.000 So now is the time that we have to do it.

02:23:17.000 And it was updated.

02:23:18.000 To account for approximately 3 million people moving to Texas.

02:23:22.000 Yeah, I did look that up and did not find that.

02:23:27.000 I mean, I've seen it reported countless times that the Biden DOJ case started in 2022.

02:23:33.000 I don't know the exact name of it, but that's when it kicked off.

02:23:37.000 It was by the Biden administration.

02:23:43.000 The DOJ sued Texas over its 2022 census, and the case was withdrawn by the Trump DOJ.

02:23:50.000 Yes, you are correct.

02:23:51.000 It wasn't 2022.

02:23:52.000 All right.

02:23:53.000 You are correct.

02:23:53.000 No, no, no.

02:23:54.000 It's just not listing 2022.

02:23:55.000 That was my era. 0.75

02:23:56.000 You are correct, in fact.

02:23:58.000 Well, for that, I apologize.

02:24:00.000 So I just want to point out I mean, while it all kicked off because of that, you know, being dismissed by the Trump administration, hey, happy days, you know, we can't put this disinformation out there.

02:24:12.000 We can't let, especially from creators like yourself who have a large voice, be allowing that narrative to be put there.

02:24:20.000 And that's my main pushback.

02:24:22.000 You know, I realize there's a distinction without it.

02:24:25.000 Difference, but it's important to say what the real discussion actually is.

02:24:29.000 I actually have the article.

02:24:30.000 It's from March of this year, actually.

02:24:32.000 It's from one month ago, well, a month and a half ago.

02:24:37.000 Indeed, when I first looked it up, I couldn't find anything.

02:24:41.000 I think what happened was someone had sent it to me and I looked for 2022 ruling and couldn't find anything.

02:24:48.000 The story is in 2021, the DOJ sued and it was on hold until 2025.

02:24:54.000 So I think my mistake was trying to look for 22 and 23, which It wasn't the functional years, as it were.

02:25:04.000 So I missed it.

02:25:06.000 Interesting.

02:25:07.000 It's important.

02:25:08.000 Like I said, I wanted to make sure you were aware because, again, misinformation is just as bad as disinformation and the facts need to be what they are.

02:25:17.000 Agreed.

02:25:18.000 Thank you for the correction, sir.

02:25:19.000 Thank you for the correction.

02:25:19.000 I appreciate it.

02:25:22.000 Anytime.

02:25:23.000 Yeah, don't be like that.

02:25:24.000 Don't be like that.

02:25:26.000 But, you know, I do got to do my shout out. 0.97

02:25:30.000 Good job on hiring Olivia. 0.97

02:25:32.000 She's doing great in the Discord.

02:25:33.000 And Brett, why no babies?

02:25:35.000 Smug face.

02:25:35.000 Come on, man.

02:25:36.000 Babies, babies.

02:25:37.000 Every time you ask, it gets delayed another month.

02:25:42.000 If you want her to have kids, you should stop asking because every time you guys ask, we're going to put it off another month.

02:25:46.000 I know we do need to have kids, but people always say that, like, have kids, have kids.

02:25:49.000 I know Tim having a baby was really incredibly good for Tim.

02:25:52.000 I think it matured him.

02:25:54.000 But I will say that the world that we live in is so just volatile right now.

02:25:58.000 I just can't think of it that way.

02:26:00.000 I know you got to not think about it like that.

02:26:01.000 You got to have more kids.

02:26:02.000 You got to have two.

02:26:03.000 I know, but it's just.

02:26:03.000 How old are you, Alex?

02:26:05.000 How old are you?

02:26:05.000 Old enough.

02:26:06.000 39.

02:26:07.000 39?

02:26:08.000 I turned 40, yeah.

02:26:09.000 When are you turning 40? 1.00

02:26:09.000 Damn. 1.00

02:26:10.000 I'm the same age as you. 1.00

02:26:11.000 Wow.

02:26:12.000 I thought you were a couple.

02:26:13.000 Years, I thought you were like 37.

02:26:14.000 No, I wish.

02:26:15.000 No, oh, bro, you gotta start knocking up some.

02:26:17.000 Well, I have a couple kids, I don't claim them, I don't pay child support.

02:26:17.000 I know.

02:26:21.000 Um, well, you're doing your part, you're just doing the bare minimum.

02:26:23.000 Yeah, I'm doing less than the bare minimum.

02:26:25.000 Legally, I owe money, I'm in debt, I've done uh, less than that.

02:26:28.000 So, I'll just put it this way I do want to have kids, I do need to be in a hurry, Tim, to have kids.

02:26:33.000 But there is kind of that side of me, an idiocracy, where at the beginning of the movie, where like the rich white family are like, Oh, we're not ready to have kids, we're not ready to have kids, and all of a sudden, the guy's sperm stops working because he's gotten so no, he dies.

02:26:44.000 Or he dies. 0.90

02:26:44.000 Yeah, he has a heart attack. 0.90

02:26:45.000 And there is something where it's like, yeah, I just have this kid.

02:26:49.000 And even if I can financially support him, the world is so crazy.

02:26:52.000 I'm just worried about them getting addicted to drugs.

02:26:54.000 The world is always crazy.

02:26:55.000 That's true.

02:26:56.000 In every circumstance, the world's crazy.

02:26:57.000 Like when I was a little kid, interest rates were like 20%.

02:27:01.000 Okay, well. 1.00

02:27:02.000 Yeah, it was like shit has always been. 0.99

02:27:04.000 Bro, there's a Cold War where they were like ducking covering because of nuclear bomb drops. 0.99

02:27:08.000 But I would argue the Cold War is probably safer than having these dating apps and these, you know, there's all these weird.

02:27:14.000 Cults where 304s, bro. 0.71

02:27:16.000 Well, they try to get young kids to commit suicide, you know. 0.61

02:27:18.000 Yeah, that's seven, six, four.

02:27:19.000 Cult, yeah, that crew where they'll get young people to.

02:27:21.000 And because I was on AOL, I typed age sex location when I was young, you know, when I was uh first getting on it.

02:27:27.000 But my point is, we should have kids, but the internet has created such a dark world, I'm worried about them becoming a you know victim to some sort of tragedy.

02:27:36.000 But I need to have kids, I need to knock somebody out.

02:27:38.000 Yeah, yeah, don't aren't you, aren't you, you know, you got a significant other you're ready to knock up?

02:27:44.000 Yeah, I got a couple, I'm gonna.

02:27:46.000 I'm in a polyamorous thing.

02:27:48.000 My wife's boyfriend's in jail right now.

02:27:50.000 Well, not your chance.

02:27:51.000 At Don Terrius?

02:27:52.000 Yeah, Don Terrius is in jail. 1.00

02:27:54.000 Alex, save yourself a couple big booty Latinas and get it done. 1.00

02:27:57.000 You're right. 1.00

02:27:58.000 You can do this.

02:27:59.000 You're exactly right. 1.00

02:28:00.000 Plus, if everything hits the fan, the big booty Latina will protect you. 1.00

02:28:04.000 And you can use her big booty as a flotation device to escape the waterway. 1.00

02:28:09.000 And I could go get Mexican citizenship, potentially.

02:28:12.000 And then we could be with Ethan Ralph, who's in Mexico right now.

02:28:15.000 I don't know.

02:28:15.000 Shout out to Ethan Ralph.

02:28:16.000 But my point is.

02:28:18.000 I think I do need to have kids.

02:28:21.000 I'm just not super motivated.

02:28:22.000 It's not my number one focus.

02:28:24.000 And I know that.

02:28:24.000 Never will be.

02:28:25.000 Yeah.

02:28:26.000 You got to decide to do it.

02:28:28.000 Yep.

02:28:28.000 You're right.

02:28:29.000 I have a hard time.

02:28:30.000 I want you to imagine this, Alex.

02:28:33.000 I want you to close your eyes.

02:28:34.000 Well, I'm imagining my kid always being the principal's wife.

02:28:36.000 I want you to close your eyes.

02:28:38.000 You're in a hospital bed.

02:28:39.000 Oh, great.

02:28:40.000 The TV is on.

02:28:41.000 It's CNN.

02:28:42.000 Oh, hello?

02:28:43.000 The doctor walks in and he says, Mr. Stein, I have your lab results.

02:28:49.000 It is terminal.

02:28:50.000 Is there anyone you'd like me to call right now? 0.70

02:28:50.000 I'm gay. 0.70

02:28:53.000 And you say, uh, no.

02:28:55.000 Okay, well, press the button.

02:28:56.000 Tim Poole.

02:28:57.000 I say, call my friend Tim.

02:28:58.000 He says, uh, I'll see if I can get Tim Poole on the phone.

02:29:01.000 He's gonna, but Tim doesn't have a phone, so he can't.

02:29:04.000 And then he comes back in and he says, Tim Poole said, Remember that time on the show when I told you to have kids?

02:29:08.000 I told you to close your eyes.

02:29:10.000 That's what you remember. 0.99

02:29:12.000 Alex, you're dead. 0.81

02:29:13.000 You're dying. 0.99

02:29:14.000 You didn't have any kids. 1.00

02:29:15.000 You loser. 1.00

02:29:15.000 Don't fucking call me. 1.00

02:29:17.000 He said, and I'm sorry, Alex. 0.99

02:29:19.000 I'm playing with my grandkids right now.

02:29:21.000 Having a blast.

02:29:22.000 We're on vacation with my grandkids.

02:29:23.000 You can hear clapping.

02:29:24.000 I'm at my grandkids' birthday.

02:29:26.000 Woo!

02:29:28.000 I feel so loved right now. 1.00

02:29:31.000 Have fun in hell, Alex.

02:29:33.000 Oh, Tim, the irony of telling Alex to picture anything when you've got your number one NPC on the call right now.

02:29:43.000 Oh, my God.

02:29:44.000 Wow.

02:29:46.000 Well, thank you for being an NPC, I guess.

02:29:46.000 What?

02:29:48.000 Yeah.

02:29:50.000 That joke went over our heads, but we get it.

02:29:51.000 You're calling in.

02:29:52.000 You want anything or shout anything out, brother?

02:29:55.000 Check me out at the Quiet Heart Pod Monday through Friday.

02:29:58.000 I'm moving to a new time next week, but you know, find me on Rumble.

02:30:02.000 Have a good night, guys.

02:30:03.000 Thanks for calling in, brother Keith.

02:30:04.000 Thank you.

02:30:05.000 Next up, we've got Asfera.

02:30:09.000 What's up?

02:30:10.000 What's up, man?

02:30:13.000 Good evening, ladies and gentlemen. 0.93

02:30:15.000 There's no ladies here, but I'm not going to take. 0.99

02:30:17.000 Oh, sorry. 1.00

02:30:18.000 I'm sorry.

02:30:18.000 Ian belongs here.

02:30:19.000 My mistake. 1.00

02:30:20.000 Are you gay? 1.00

02:30:21.000 He might be a little. 0.99

02:30:23.000 Only for Elad.

02:30:24.000 Only for Elad.

02:30:24.000 I was always a lot.

02:30:25.000 Oh, my God.

02:30:26.000 You're an Elad D-rider?

02:30:27.000 Is this caller really an Elad D-rider?

02:30:29.000 Oh, bro.

02:30:30.000 They love Elad, bro.

02:30:31.000 Oh, my.

02:30:32.000 He's the one that got Randy in here.

02:30:34.000 Elad. 1.00

02:30:35.000 Fuck Elad. 1.00

02:30:36.000 Okay, go ahead. 1.00

02:30:37.000 Sorry.

02:30:39.000 Sam, Elad.

02:30:40.000 Narrowly missed it. 1.00

02:30:42.000 I'm actually an Ian fan and an anti-Eladist. 1.00

02:30:44.000 I love it. 1.00

02:30:46.000 I'm not too loud. 0.96

02:30:47.000 This guy had half a brain. 0.52

02:30:48.000 Well, that's why Randy Fine came on. 0.58

02:30:48.000 Okay. 0.58

02:30:49.000 A lot got him.

02:30:50.000 I know.

02:30:50.000 That's what I heard.

02:30:52.000 I had a lot on with you tonight.

02:30:53.000 And then.

02:30:54.000 Oh, thank God.

02:30:55.000 You should have been fighting, dude.

02:30:57.000 I know.

02:30:57.000 I've literally been fighting.

02:30:58.000 Last minute mind change.

02:31:00.000 Thank God.

02:31:01.000 I appreciate that, Corey. 0.91

02:31:02.000 Well, you two fighting is one thing, but if there's a third person fighting with all of you together, it just fucking works. 0.69

02:31:07.000 We fight off camera, too, like this. 0.79

02:31:07.000 Tim and I are friends. 0.79

02:31:09.000 You know, it's not personal.

02:31:10.000 I'm saying Tim and I argue all the time, but it's not personal.

02:31:13.000 You know what I love doing?

02:31:14.000 Whenever I hit a jackpot in a slot machine, I send a picture to Alex.

02:31:17.000 Dude, Tim did the worst thing ever.

02:31:17.000 Oh, my God.

02:31:19.000 We were playing at the casino.

02:31:21.000 I put in like 200 bucks in a machine.

02:31:23.000 I go to go pee.

02:31:24.000 I come out, and Tim has a check from the casino.

02:31:27.000 Oh, it's great.

02:31:28.000 So the story is it's so it's, you know, me to Mrs., Alex to Mrs., and he goes to this dumb machine and he puts in a couple hundred bucks and loses it all.

02:31:35.000 And then he's like, I want to go to the bathroom.

02:31:37.000 I put in 100 bucks.

02:31:37.000 I hit the button one time and hit a jackpot.

02:31:40.000 Then he comes back over.

02:31:41.000 I'm like, hey, look at me.

02:31:42.000 Like 3,200 bucks.

02:31:44.000 I was so pissed.

02:31:45.000 It was like, I won $5 bet.

02:31:48.000 So whenever we go out, it's funny because like we went to Maryland Live.

02:31:51.000 And then I was like, I just hit jackpots all the time.

02:31:53.000 Watch.

02:31:54.000 And Alex is like, no, you're not.

02:31:55.000 And there was this machine with a frog on it.

02:31:57.000 And my wife loves frogs.

02:31:58.000 And I was like, let's play the frog game.

02:32:00.000 And you're like, Tim, you're not going to hit it.

02:32:01.000 It's not going to happen.

02:32:02.000 I hit a jackpot.

02:32:03.000 He plays the machine right next to it and loses.

02:32:06.000 He gets off the machine.

02:32:06.000 I switch to it and he goes, let's go play something else.

02:32:08.000 You're not going to hit a second jackpot right there on the spot.

02:32:10.000 Because you were waiting to get better on the first one.

02:32:10.000 Oh, yeah.

02:32:12.000 You can always.

02:32:13.000 I was waiting to get better on the first one.

02:32:15.000 I had a second one.

02:32:16.000 I'm spending like $10 to spend.

02:32:17.000 I'm betting like 50 cents.

02:32:18.000 So it's more likely to hit because you're betting big.

02:32:20.000 We used to go to the casino all the time.

02:32:22.000 Like, you can usually tell where Tim is in the casino when you.

02:32:25.000 Follow the sound of winning.

02:32:26.000 Yeah, Tim does have good luck.

02:32:29.000 I don't know if it's the.

02:32:30.000 I've got a witness to Tim.

02:32:31.000 I actually have right here a.

02:32:35.000 Not this.

02:32:36.000 What is this?

02:32:36.000 Is this a.

02:32:37.000 They're all checks from different.

02:32:39.000 Yeah, all of them.

02:32:39.000 This is a.

02:32:41.000 What is this?

02:32:43.000 $2,351 jackpot from last Friday.

02:32:47.000 Well, that's good that they changed the threshold for $1,000, Tim.

02:32:50.000 I bet you like that.

02:32:50.000 It's really funny.

02:32:51.000 A lot of $1,500. 0.74

02:32:53.000 Friday, I walked into the casino and I went to the Huff and Puff with the pigs and you blow things down.

02:32:58.000 And they give me free play.

02:32:59.000 So it's like you get like bonus slots.

02:33:01.000 I have to use it, yeah.

02:33:03.000 I bet $3.75 and won $2,351.

02:33:07.000 Yeah.

02:33:07.000 Wow.

02:33:08.000 Have they ever given me a game?

02:33:10.000 I got an ultra mansions and got a bunch of palaces.

02:33:12.000 Oh, that's sick.

02:33:13.000 You got the ultra mansion.

02:33:14.000 Yeah.

02:33:14.000 You get palaces.

02:33:16.000 You need to make gambling content, dude, because that is blowing up and that's non political.

02:33:21.000 So it gets to a totally different audience.

02:33:22.000 I know you and I have talked about that, but.

02:33:24.000 I've been winning poker tournaments like crazy.

02:33:27.000 I probably win like six or seven per week at this point.

02:33:29.000 Well, you do the predictive market, and I know there's people that are coming out with shows.

02:33:32.000 Based on just the prediction markets, which I think is an interesting idea where like they'll just cover on whatever trending prediction market they're you know is popular, but I don't want to encourage gambling.

02:33:42.000 But at the same time, gambling is so fun.

02:33:44.000 Well, poker's not, I'm saying it's well, I'm just saying like a slot machine video, it's actually fun though to watch other people gamble because then you don't lose any money.

02:33:50.000 So we do have a caller side of it, he was trying to ask a question.

02:33:54.000 What's going on, brother?

02:33:54.000 Not all bad.

02:33:56.000 Oh, Tim, that was great.

02:33:58.000 Um, so I'm getting on to the gerrymandering thing with Massachusetts because I think you kind of missed out some part of it earlier.

02:34:05.000 When you were talking about Massachusetts, if you take a look at the map, if you could pull it up, I don't know if you could pull it from the Collins section or you just have to pull up the voting map versus the 2024 election map.

02:34:16.000 You can see how they fishtailed Brighton, which is the most Libbyist place on the planet, straight down into all of the red section.

02:34:29.000 Then they cut out the central part, which is Springfield, all the way up the Merrimack Valley and gerrymandered those into Worcester and stuff. 0.72

02:34:38.000 It's like, These entire areas are pushed in.

02:34:42.000 You get an area, the red area is cut in half.

02:34:45.000 It gets swallowed up by Boston and brought in.

02:34:47.000 So if you look at Area 4 right there, you'll see that it fishtails up, and then there's that little teeny oval section right next to Cambridge.

02:34:57.000 Yeah.

02:34:58.000 It's just, it's everything from the 4 over on that map is all deep red, and they split it.

02:35:09.000 50 50 and bring it up into Boston and down through Brockton just to cut people out.

02:35:15.000 They take District 1 and gerrymander it so that 90% of Springfield is cut off. 0.55

02:35:20.000 Then Worcester, the other Democrat stronghold, takes the other half of the Republicans.

02:35:25.000 And then when you get up into the Lowell area, you wipe out the last little bit of conservatives in Massachusetts and you take a 40% voting block and turn it into a zero block.

02:35:38.000 What can we do?

02:35:42.000 This is the future, bro.

02:35:44.000 That's it.

02:35:46.000 There's nothing you can do.

02:35:48.000 Look at this mistake right here.

02:35:51.000 All the states are now gearing up to do this.

02:35:54.000 The result is people who are right lean are going to leave these states and go to red states where they find sanctuary because it's going to get crazier. 0.91

02:36:02.000 When they ice out conservatives and get a supermajority, they're going to cut off kids' balls, they're going to seize your property. 0.50

02:36:08.000 It's going to go commie. 0.97

02:36:09.000 Republicans will leave. 1.00

02:36:11.000 Yeah, mass abortions.

02:36:12.000 Republicans are going to leave. 0.90

02:36:14.000 Then it's going to hyper polarize geographically, and everyone's going to shoot each other.

02:36:19.000 So, good luck.

02:36:19.000 Yeah.

02:36:21.000 I guess I'll say it for you.

02:36:22.000 Civil war is coming, but I don't want it.

02:36:25.000 I need my kids.

02:36:27.000 I know, Tim, and you've talked, obviously, you're one of the biggest proponents, the Civil War is almost inevitable.

02:36:34.000 But I would think that the only way that people actually start shooting each other, and I know that you could argue like January 6th was the start of it, but is if they turn off the Internet.

02:36:43.000 And do you think that'll happen?

02:36:44.000 No, the Internet's making it happen.

02:36:45.000 What do you mean?

02:36:46.000 Well, I'm saying, I think that if they really wanted people to start shooting each other, it's like how during the pandemic people were fighting over toilet paper.

02:36:53.000 They have to do something like that, right?

02:36:55.000 If you turn the internet off, no one talks about Erica Kirk ever again.

02:37:01.000 It would probably de radicalize people.

02:37:04.000 Yeah, I think it would radicalize people.

02:37:05.000 Now, if you stop the food subcalvings with your neighbors and people would start to become more like each other.

02:37:10.000 Well, wouldn't that create more of a civil war, though?

02:37:13.000 It would become more tribalistic if the internet was.

02:37:16.000 There would be no cohesive factionalization.

02:37:18.000 How they would cut off the internet, I don't think it would just be like.

02:37:21.000 They would say that it was cyber attacked in certain areas, have service for X amount of time.

02:37:21.000 On than off.

02:37:25.000 You need scale, cohesive factionalizing.

02:37:29.000 So the internet escalates it.

02:37:31.000 Turning off the internet would slow it down.

02:37:33.000 Yeah, I mean, there is a.

02:37:33.000 Yeah.

02:37:34.000 Talk of civil war in the United States happened first in 1820.

02:37:38.000 It took 40 years.

02:37:39.000 Yeah.

02:37:40.000 Right now, talk of civil war happened in 2018, and now eight years later, you've got hyper.

02:37:45.000 That's 2016, but that's two years.

02:37:47.000 No, people were shocked about Trump, but the first articles had to emerge about the Cold Civil War.

02:37:52.000 It might have been 17, but I think it was 2018.

02:37:54.000 Because I had been covering, like, the first article that came out, like, whoa, and started talking about it.

02:37:58.000 So now we're getting hyperpolarization in only eight years instead of 40.

02:38:02.000 Yeah, you're right.

02:38:04.000 The internet is like a tool for acceleration.

02:38:07.000 What is it?

02:38:08.000 Acceleration?

02:38:09.000 Accelerationism.

02:38:12.000 Indeed.

02:38:12.000 I think we should ban the internet.

02:38:15.000 Landline phones only by law.

02:38:18.000 The world was a better place when you had to call your friend on a landline.

02:38:20.000 It's true.

02:38:21.000 I know.

02:38:23.000 It was more mystery.

02:38:24.000 It was more adventure.

02:38:25.000 People text each other like they send mail to each other, like it's 1860. 1.00

02:38:30.000 You fucking text? 1.00

02:38:31.000 Are you kidding me? 1.00

02:38:32.000 It's insane.

02:38:33.000 It's such a degradation of communication.

02:38:35.000 It is.

02:38:36.000 Even the pagers, when the pagers people are starting to put messages on pagers, like the world is simpler. 0.97

02:38:40.000 When the page, I can't relate to people that are under the age of 42. 0.98

02:38:44.000 Like, I cannot fucking relate to these people that are like tech just blown, their minds are machine. 0.99

02:38:49.000 It's crazy. 1.00

02:38:49.000 Is it because they're all gay? 1.00

02:38:50.000 Because they fucking think that texting is normal, it's crazy. 1.00

02:38:53.000 Well, and young people, they don't like to have phone conversations, they really don't. 0.99

02:38:57.000 Yeah, they just won't answer the phone.

02:38:58.000 Yeah, and I'm not trying to be like, you know, in the room, all you young kids don't want to have phone calls, but it does that is like a real thing where young kids would rather.

02:39:05.000 Oh, you do.

02:39:05.000 I sat around memorizing.

02:39:07.000 Phone numbers when I was little.

02:39:08.000 Oh, yeah, dude.

02:39:08.000 I knew everybody.

02:39:09.000 80 phone numbers, and I would call my friends, talk, talk for a minute.

02:39:12.000 Yeah, I only know one phone number.

02:39:13.000 It's my mom's.

02:39:15.000 Dude.

02:39:15.000 Actually, no, I know my mom's and my wife's.

02:39:17.000 Mine have vastly decreased. 0.99

02:39:19.000 The fucking text, dude. 1.00

02:39:20.000 Texting is insane. 1.00

02:39:22.000 Texting, people think it's a real combo. 0.99

02:39:24.000 It's fucking crazy to me. 0.98

02:39:26.000 It's just devastating. 0.99

02:39:27.000 You know what?

02:39:27.000 You've been calling this out for 20 years, too.

02:39:29.000 Ian, you know you should do.

02:39:30.000 I'm oblivious to it.

02:39:31.000 You know what you should do? 0.99

02:39:33.000 You got to burn them. 0.99

02:39:34.000 Burn what? 0.92

02:39:35.000 All the texts? 0.96

02:39:35.000 Burn them all. 0.96

02:39:36.000 Well, actually, I'm about 8% away from it. 0.93

02:39:38.000 You can joke about that, but I love the idea of Fight Club where.

02:39:41.000 They wanted to fly planes into the building of the credit card companies to wipe everybody's debt.

02:39:46.000 Like, if you were.

02:39:47.000 They blew them up.

02:39:47.000 They bombed them.

02:39:48.000 Wanted to bomb the building.

02:39:50.000 They did bomb them.

02:39:51.000 They didn't want to.

02:39:52.000 At the end, it was great.

02:39:52.000 They did.

02:39:53.000 Well, I don't know the plot, but it's a great movie.

02:39:55.000 My point is 30 years ago.

02:39:56.000 I was like a villain.

02:39:57.000 I don't know if I would be.

02:39:59.000 I'm not even saying Elon Musk is 100% a villain.

02:40:01.000 I don't know if I'd want to buy Twitter, but I would like to do something illegal and crazy like blow up all the credit card companies and try to get rid of the debt.

02:40:07.000 Like, I'm saying there is something evil you could do that would benefit society.

02:40:11.000 Well, I mean, I got to be honest.

02:40:11.000 And.

02:40:12.000 Like, The reason why I'm unimpressed with the deep state is because my presumption is either they're very, very smart and this is the intended condition or they're really bad at what they're doing and they're fucking it up. 0.64

02:40:23.000 The reason why I don't think the White House shooting was a false flag is because if I was going to do a false flag, I'd have done it way better.

02:40:28.000 Yeah.

02:40:29.000 And so I can't imagine the people who are professionals are worse than me at it.

02:40:32.000 You know what I mean?

02:40:33.000 That's fair.

02:40:33.000 You think he would have taken out somebody.

02:40:35.000 You know what I mean?

02:40:36.000 Like, you just think they would have.

02:40:37.000 Did you see the picture of him?

02:40:38.000 Like, this is the real problem.

02:40:39.000 There's like a picture of this dude taking like an aweshuck selfie where all.

02:40:44.000 Like, no dude who's going after the president should have a selfie that looks like a millennial saying, I just did a thing.

02:40:52.000 Well, but dude, now everyone becomes a hero.

02:40:54.000 Luigi Mangione is like the biggest dude ever.

02:40:56.000 And I think part of it is the fact that he's decently attractive, you know?

02:41:00.000 I think that's part of the reason he's such a big celebrity.

02:41:02.000 But at the same exact time, politically, they don't have a lot of Charlie Kirks on their side, right?

02:41:07.000 So that's why they're able to take a guy like Luigi Mangione and be like, he's a hero.

02:41:10.000 We do add some more collars.

02:41:11.000 You want to shout anything out, brother? 1.00

02:41:13.000 Yes, if it's okay, I'd like to shout out the Boonies, obviously.

02:41:17.000 They've made some great.

02:41:18.000 I finally got my Step on Snake number one gold posted on the wall.

02:41:23.000 That being said, the Discord and hey, Tim, Ian, anybody, I have two of the only three Chandra skateboards that were made in 2013 for the Grand Prix.

02:41:36.000 Really?

02:41:37.000 And I was wondering how I can get one to you guys.

02:41:40.000 I don't know.

02:41:41.000 Do we have a P.O. box?

02:41:44.000 We used to.

02:41:46.000 Is there somebody in the Discord who can handle lazing that?

02:41:50.000 Yeah, because this thing is freaking amazing.

02:41:52.000 I could send some photos or something over, but like I said, there were only three made for the 2013 Grand Prix circuit.

02:41:57.000 That's amazing.

02:41:58.000 Did the ticket wall where you can win prizes, and a friend of mine had so many tickets.

02:42:03.000 I gave him some expensive magic cards and had him pick them both up for me.

02:42:07.000 Wow, yeah, we'll put it on the big magic card shop that we got.

02:42:10.000 Olivia could probably handle that, right?

02:42:12.000 Olivia, if you're listening, which I think you are, you should.

02:42:14.000 Well, I'll bug her in a few.

02:42:16.000 I'll send her a message.

02:42:17.000 Ian, you helped me out, by the way.

02:42:18.000 My wife, she was just texting me about how she wants to get Taco Bell after dinner, and I didn't want to.

02:42:24.000 I said, This isn't even a real convo.

02:42:26.000 Yeah, you're like, how could you not call me?

02:42:26.000 We're texting.

02:42:28.000 Leave me a message.

02:42:29.000 I think that's the guy's fault.

02:42:30.000 He's got to call.

02:42:31.000 Leave a voicemail.

02:42:32.000 You got to call in Discord.

02:42:33.000 You don't even have to call to leave a voicemail anymore.

02:42:35.000 You just hit the button and hold it down while you talk.

02:42:37.000 True.

02:42:37.000 But I think.

02:42:38.000 Brett.

02:42:38.000 I think.

02:42:39.000 That's because Shane's going to be a man.

02:42:41.000 If there is one thing a man can do for a woman that proves he is a man and a provider, it's get Taco Bell.

02:42:48.000 It's akin to going out and hunting and then bringing.

02:42:50.000 Yeah.

02:42:52.000 And I recommend that.

02:42:52.000 God, I was surprised.

02:42:53.000 She made like meatloaf, which is at home ready to eat.

02:42:57.000 So I'm like, you got to get the Cantina chicken.

02:43:00.000 They're like, it's a real corn tortilla and they press it with cheese with chicken in it.

02:43:04.000 I just get.

02:43:05.000 The same thing every time.

02:43:06.000 Got frozen Doritos, Locos, Tacos, and very salty.

02:43:10.000 Yeah, you want to share anything out?

02:43:11.000 Before you kick me out, just a friendly reminder for all you Taco Bell lovers out there.

02:43:16.000 I'm one of them myself.

02:43:17.000 Get yourself some Chipotle away.

02:43:19.000 That being said, have a wonderful night.

02:43:21.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.

02:43:23.000 Next up, we've got Mo Farmer.

02:43:27.000 What is up?

02:43:27.000 What's up, Mo Farmer?

02:43:28.000 I think Alex is dropping a deuce or something.

02:43:31.000 How are you guys doing tonight?

02:43:32.000 Well, he's locked himself out, so I'm happy to go.

02:43:35.000 Did he?

02:43:36.000 I'll go.

02:43:36.000 Alex has stepped away, so he's not here at the moment, but what's happening, bro?

02:43:40.000 Well, I have to agree with you, Ian, on the texting thing.

02:43:44.000 But here's my real question for the panel.

02:43:47.000 And I want an answer from Brett first because I don't think he spoke enough tonight.

02:43:52.000 I do not find this right wing divide to be very organic.

02:43:57.000 Agreed.

02:43:59.000 I see there's a lot going on in the background.

02:44:03.000 And what do you think is behind these leftists propping up these against the Republicans?

02:44:09.000 I found a link with a guest on Mario Naufall.

02:44:13.000 From the Quincy Institute on Iran today, and Massey and Rokhana received rewards from the same Quincy Institute, which I understand is Soros funded.

02:44:24.000 Is there a link there?

02:44:28.000 I think the deep state is paying prominent conservatives to not be conservative anymore, and it's lucrative and there's easy money.

02:44:36.000 Well, like, what would you do? 0.97

02:44:37.000 Like, Alex, what would you do if, like, a wet works guy working for the machine came to you and said, You're going to turn on Trump or we're going to kill you. 0.99

02:44:47.000 I would turn on Trump. 0.99

02:44:48.000 Most people would.

02:44:50.000 Yeah, but you wouldn't.

02:44:52.000 I don't.

02:44:53.000 Well, turn on Trump, I don't know what that means.

02:44:55.000 Like, I had a guy come up to me.

02:44:56.000 I was at the casino and he was like, Hey, are you Tim Pool?

02:44:59.000 And then I said, Yeah.

02:45:00.000 And he goes, I got a question for you.

02:45:01.000 Like, what do you think about Tucker and Candace and them?

02:45:03.000 And I said, I think they're.

02:45:05.000 I said, I think Tucker's all right.

02:45:06.000 This was two weeks ago.

02:45:08.000 I was like, He's got opinions I don't like, but people are allowed to have opinions I don't like. 1.00

02:45:11.000 I think Candace is a total lie. 1.00

02:45:12.000 She's lying about everything.

02:45:13.000 And he's like, What would it take to get you to turn on Trump?

02:45:15.000 And I said, Turn on him.

02:45:17.000 I mean, I've never been like die hard, 100% form. 1.00

02:45:19.000 I call them a retard. 1.00

02:45:20.000 Yeah, I think you are pretty fair with Trump. 1.00

02:45:22.000 I called him retarded. 1.00

02:45:23.000 I tweeted that he was a retard. 1.00

02:45:25.000 I said, for a second there, I thought Trump really thought he was Jesus, but it turns out he was just retarded. 1.00

02:45:29.000 How do you do all these shit posting? 1.00

02:45:31.000 It's hard to tell what's real and fake with you on Twitter anymore. 1.00

02:45:33.000 Dude, when Trump deserves to be ragged on, he gets ragged on.

02:45:39.000 But that's always been the case.

02:45:40.000 And then he went, oh, okay.

02:45:41.000 And then he walked away.

02:45:42.000 And I was like, it's kind of weird.

02:45:43.000 I was like, well, you don't like him.

02:45:44.000 He's like, I hate him. 1.00

02:45:46.000 If someone came to me and said, turn on Trump or die, I'd be like, go fuck yourself. 1.00

02:45:51.000 Well, and I think there are fair criticisms of Trump and his administration, but at the same time, Trump is always going to be on the side of trying to save babies in the womb. 1.00

02:45:58.000 Trump is always going to be against immigration.

02:46:01.000 So even if he's not perfect and he's not as far right as people want, he's always going to be the lesser of two evils.

02:46:06.000 And I know that that's not always the best option, but I think that that is where we really need to kind of have this debate where now you see the right is totally divided and they're kind of anti Trump.

02:46:16.000 It's like, if you're anti Trump, does that mean you're pro Kamala?

02:46:18.000 Does that mean you're pro Gavin Newsom?

02:46:19.000 Wait, wait, I figured it out.

02:46:21.000 If somebody came to me, like a wet works guy, like a deep state guy, and he was like, Mr. Poole, you are going to be a prominent anti Trump voice.

02:46:29.000 You're going to defend Democrats. 0.97

02:46:30.000 You are going to change your opinions slowly over time, or we're going to kill you. 0.76

02:46:35.000 I'd say, no, that's not what's going to happen. 0.89

02:46:36.000 I'll tell you what's going to happen.

02:46:38.000 I will criticize Trump.

02:46:40.000 I will promote trans in the kids, and you're going to give me $75 million per year to do it.

02:46:46.000 Otherwise, I would do it.

02:46:47.000 I would have to.

02:46:50.000 I'm only saying that because in the event they do try to, Strong army, they now have to come with money instead of threats of violence.

02:46:56.000 Everybody has a price. 1.00

02:46:57.000 I don't mean trying to act like we don't, but if they were going to pay you 70 million bucks, you'd say fuck Trump. 0.99

02:47:01.000 I mean, if they're going to. 1.00

02:47:03.000 Well, I don't mind saying fuck Trump if Trump deserves to say fuck Trump. 1.00

02:47:05.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 1.00

02:47:06.000 The issue, however, though, is I think what we've seen with Animal Farm and with Israel, they'll just kill me on the spot.

02:47:11.000 They won't ask questions.

02:47:13.000 I'm not the kind of guy that they're going to be able to negotiate with.

02:47:17.000 Yeah.

02:47:17.000 I have shown to be obstinate and willing to reject money to go against my values.

02:47:23.000 There is no safe way a deep state person could come to me and make me a deal without exposing themselves or having me go on my show and say, These motherfuckers tried to pay me off. 0.99

02:47:31.000 Well, let's just. 1.00

02:47:32.000 So they would just heart attack gun me.

02:47:34.000 That's, yeah, with the ice.

02:47:35.000 And it's a needle that has a poison in it, and the needle's made of ice, and then it goes in your body and it melts.

02:47:40.000 It's real.

02:47:40.000 It's from the 70s.

02:47:40.000 It's been it forever.

02:47:42.000 When Randy Fine said, What about you if you had on Dan Bilzerian?

02:47:45.000 Because I think if you had it on a guy like Dan Bilzerian.

02:47:47.000 Wait, we said, What?

02:47:48.000 What did Randy Fine say about Dan Bilzerian?

02:47:50.000 It was conveyed to me, because I don't know exactly what he said, that his team said, the congressman wants.

02:47:56.000 To him to know that if he has Dan Bilzerian on the show, he won't be coming back.

02:47:59.000 This is after his appearance or before?

02:48:01.000 It's after.

02:48:01.000 And then my response was like, whoa.

02:48:04.000 I know.

02:48:04.000 Now all the friends trying to curate your guests.

02:48:06.000 It's kind of like, dude.

02:48:07.000 I thought he was going to come back.

02:48:08.000 Well, I thought you were fair with him.

02:48:10.000 I thought he wanted to come back.

02:48:12.000 Yeah, he said he wanted to come back.

02:48:13.000 Because I told him that I said, since we announced we're having you on, Dan Bilzerian wants to come on.

02:48:17.000 He goes, I wouldn't do it.

02:48:19.000 And I said, well, I think it'd be worse to not have him than to have him.

02:48:22.000 I was like, you can't do that.

02:48:25.000 Like, listen, if you are super pro Israel like Randy Fine and your attitude is, Tim, don't have Dan on.

02:48:31.000 It's bad.

02:48:32.000 He's an anti Semite. 1.00

02:48:34.000 My response is literally not having him on will do more damage to you than having him on. 0.98

02:48:39.000 And when I said, oh, hey, FCC regulations, we got to have Dan Blazarian on now, that fucking commenter that aggravated you and me didn't get that I was being sarcastic. 0.94

02:48:49.000 We're talking about people that are being sarcastic. 0.97

02:48:50.000 You never do that.

02:48:51.000 You don't understand sarcasm.

02:48:52.000 It wasn't even in text.

02:48:53.000 I said it with my words and he still didn't get that I was being sarcastic.

02:48:55.000 Dude, you got to be careful with what things you say, dude.

02:48:58.000 People, even people that are watching right now won't get sarcasm sometimes.

02:49:02.000 No.

02:49:03.000 Yeah, if uh, just doesn't convey it now, what I will say is this even words something.

02:49:07.000 That's true.

02:49:07.000 Let me ask you this question.

02:49:08.000 If Hillary Clinton personally came to your house, and then like in the dead of night in secret, you like wake up and she's standing in your living room, and there's like two guards, and then you like you hear the noise, you come out, and you're like in your boxers, and your wife beat her, and you're like, What's going on?

02:49:22.000 Oh my god, Hillary Clinton!

02:49:23.000 And they go, Alex, calm down.

02:49:25.000 So you need to sit down, we need to talk to you, and you're like, What the is going on?

02:49:29.000 She sits you down, she pulls out a laptop, and she shows you a whole bunch of information proving she is right the whole time about everything.

02:49:37.000 Real convincing, top secret stuff about Iran, showing Trump, like real evidence that Trump is working with Putin and trying to burn down the United States.

02:49:46.000 If she showed you all the proof and then said, we need you on our side, would you do it?

02:49:50.000 If she had all the evidence, yes.

02:49:52.000 I mean, I agree.

02:49:53.000 If they came in and they were like, this is proof that actually Trump is bad and here's what's really going on, I'd be like, oh, wow, I was wrong about all that.

02:49:59.000 Well, and people think, you know, I obviously am an open conspiracy theorist, but if there's new evidence that ever comes up, I'm always willing to change my position and change my opinion.

02:50:07.000 And I think that's the problem is people are just.

02:50:08.000 Too afraid to change their opinion.

02:50:10.000 It's actually just like, you know, you've always told me that if new information about your attraction to men ever came up, you'd switch sexualities.

02:50:19.000 It's actually probably the least time you'd actually take their evidence because they're like, what are they showing you a laptop that could be 110% fake with entirely fake documents?

02:50:30.000 No, because my hypothetical is that they prove it to you.

02:50:33.000 Okay.

02:50:33.000 Yeah.

02:50:34.000 Yeah.

02:50:34.000 Not that they're showing you a laptop.

02:50:36.000 It doesn't necessarily have to be a laptop, you know, in this hypothetical. 1.00

02:50:38.000 It's just they have the fucking gun. 1.00

02:50:40.000 Wait, wait. 1.00

02:50:40.000 Now, this one. 1.00

02:50:42.000 You wake up hearing a noise, and you come in your living room.

02:50:44.000 There's Hillary Clinton standing there in the dark with two Secret Service guys.

02:50:47.000 And she goes, Alex, you need to listen to me.

02:50:50.000 Donald Trump is wrong.

02:50:50.000 I'm going to show you all of the classified proof.

02:50:53.000 And then all of a sudden you hear a crash and turn around.

02:50:55.000 And in your kitchen, there's Trump.

02:50:56.000 And he goes, Don't listen to her.

02:50:58.000 She's lying.

02:50:59.000 Alex, listen to me.

02:51:00.000 I would listen to Trump.

02:51:01.000 I would listen to Trump in that situation.

02:51:02.000 Oh, you say, First, when to give me a bottle of hot sauce, I will take their position.

02:51:07.000 What if Hillary then pulled a bottle of hot sauce out of her purse, going, It was true the whole time, Alex? 0.80

02:51:11.000 She's so relatable. 0.99

02:51:12.000 She has to bring her hot sauce.

02:51:13.000 I love that picture of her when she's in the apartment.

02:51:16.000 Oh, she looks like I've never seen her before.

02:51:18.000 She's out of water.

02:51:19.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. 0.97

02:51:21.000 From that New York kitchen.

02:51:22.000 We do got to get one more caller.

02:51:24.000 Caller, you want anything or shout anything out?

02:51:27.000 Yeah, I just want to thank you for taking my call and shout out AP for Liberty and Gary Meldon with Paramount Tactical.

02:51:35.000 They're doing the good fight.

02:51:37.000 And also a shout out to Andrew Wilson's debate with Owen Schroyer.

02:51:42.000 I thought that was very good.

02:51:43.000 Who do you think won?

02:51:44.000 Thank you and happy.

02:51:45.000 Who do you think won that debate?

02:51:47.000 Owen Schroyer.

02:51:48.000 I thought Owen did good.

02:51:49.000 I.

02:51:50.000 I thought Wilson won the debate.

02:51:53.000 Andrew's a good debater.

02:51:54.000 I actually was kidding.

02:51:55.000 I actually only saw clips, so I don't know.

02:51:59.000 Yeah, I didn't watch it.

02:51:59.000 Thank you, guys.

02:52:01.000 Thanks, man.

02:52:01.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.

02:52:05.000 All right.

02:52:06.000 Next up, last but not least, we have Real Zacchaeus.

02:52:11.000 Dude, thank you for having me.

02:52:13.000 You got my name correct and everything. 0.51

02:52:15.000 I was just thinking of Hillary Clinton.

02:52:18.000 It's me chilling in Cedar Rapids.

02:52:22.000 Yeah.

02:52:22.000 Classic.

02:52:24.000 So, with the Section 702 surveillance up for renewal, do you think the government can realistically protect national security without violating Americans' privacy?

02:52:33.000 You mean FISA?

02:52:34.000 Or is mass.

02:52:36.000 Sorry, go ahead.

02:52:37.000 You mean FISA?

02:52:39.000 Yeah.

02:52:39.000 They did renew it for what, three years?

02:52:43.000 Yeah.

02:52:44.000 Yeah, three years.

02:52:44.000 So, the question on that would be is mass surveillance just the new normal that we.

02:52:51.000 I don't know.

02:52:51.000 I remember.

02:52:53.000 I don't think the mass surveillance is the issue.

02:52:54.000 I think they're collecting data for AI.

02:52:59.000 Yeah, that does make sense, too.

02:53:00.000 I just remember at a time, today is my 33rd birthday, and I remember a time when we had a.

02:53:08.000 Thanks, guys.

02:53:08.000 Appreciate it.

02:53:09.000 Seriously.

02:53:10.000 The boys.

02:53:12.000 I remember a time when there was a camera installed above a light near our house, and we were like, where does that go to?

02:53:20.000 And it was way more suspect.

02:53:23.000 And it just feels so normalized now.

02:53:25.000 And, you know, with we have cameras that are staring at me right now, know exactly what I look like.

02:53:31.000 And there doesn't seem like much of an avoidance.

02:53:33.000 Here's a secret if we do a show in this studio and the stream goes down and the computer goes down, the whole show is still recorded on the other camera.

02:53:44.000 We have backups upon backups.

02:53:46.000 There's a camera in this room recording video and audio 24 7.

02:53:50.000 The audio would be.

02:53:51.000 Yes, I remember.

02:53:52.000 Yeah, I mean, so massively.

02:53:52.000 Yeah.

02:53:54.000 I remember when you guys had them on when there was like the cops running through your.

02:54:00.000 No, that was actually just one of the normal cameras at the old studio.

02:54:03.000 Now we have actual.

02:54:04.000 We have security cameras all over the place.

02:54:06.000 One of the reasons we can't publish the footage of the shooting from December is because it shows where the cameras are and how to avoid them.

02:54:13.000 But we played the audio when it happened.

02:54:13.000 So we don't want to reveal that.

02:54:15.000 But we thought we were actually going to move to a new location.

02:54:18.000 Instead, we took some security changes.

02:54:21.000 We have a guy with an AK 47.

02:54:23.000 That's new.

02:54:24.000 It's not new.

02:54:25.000 Well, he didn't usually walk around with a gun out like that.

02:54:27.000 Maybe he puts a gun out.

02:54:28.000 I'm just saying, you have a guy.

02:54:29.000 It looks like he's going in Kandahar.

02:54:31.000 Wait, more than one.

02:54:34.000 There's a guy. 0.97

02:54:35.000 I don't want to talk too much stuff, but there's a guy with an AK 47 right at the freaking gate. 0.97

02:54:38.000 When you walk in, you said, Yeah, we got robot dogs. 0.92

02:54:42.000 There's about 17 of them that patrol the property.

02:54:44.000 I'm not kidding about the guy with the AK.

02:54:46.000 That's real.

02:54:47.000 We got about 17 robot dogs.

02:54:48.000 They were five grand each, and they're mounted with sirens.

02:54:52.000 They don't have weapons.

02:54:54.000 I'm kidding.

02:54:54.000 Chicken City is a polite society.

02:54:56.000 We actually just have a bunch of chickens that were trained to murder. 0.99

02:55:00.000 You will die.

02:55:01.000 You said, You think that the point of the surveillance is to train AI?

02:55:07.000 Yeah, they don't need to steal everyone's private data.

02:55:11.000 For surveillance, it makes no sense.

02:55:13.000 In the show Person of Interest, which is about the creation of an AI, it literally the creator of the program creates social media to get information to gather on citizens.

02:55:23.000 That's probably what it is.

02:55:24.000 Yeah.

02:55:24.000 They've been working on AI since the 70s.

02:55:26.000 And that is what social media is because if it's free, that means we're the product, right?

02:55:30.000 Did you guys see the Elon Altman stuff?

02:55:33.000 Yeah, we did.

02:55:34.000 Where the dude literally is saying, we're going to fleece Elon and take all his money.

02:55:38.000 Yeah. 0.99

02:55:38.000 Well, fucking wild. 0.99

02:55:40.000 Well, Sam Altman said it was supposed to be a nonprofit organization, and then. 0.99

02:55:44.000 Right.

02:55:44.000 There's an email where the guy's like, We'll get Elon to bring his money in, then kick him out and go for profit.

02:55:50.000 But we won't be able to go for profit if Elon's still involved, so we got to kick him out.

02:55:54.000 And that was revealed in court, something to that effect.

02:55:57.000 Yeah, it's like a slam dunk.

02:55:59.000 That's crazy. 0.99

02:56:00.000 Yeah, it's fucking wild. 0.98

02:56:01.000 I thought it was just a lot of nothing, but now I really want to know. 0.98

02:56:03.000 No, they were like, we're going to steal his money, basically.

02:56:06.000 But you did see where Elon, they're kind of accusing him, and it's not necessarily a scam, but whatever the parent company of Grok is, that is actually the company that owns Twitter.

02:56:14.000 So it's not that Twitter owns Grok.

02:56:16.000 XAI.

02:56:16.000 Yeah, XAI just owns Twitter.

02:56:19.000 Yeah, Elon bought Twitter.

02:56:20.000 Because he wanted the data stream for artificial intelligence.

02:56:23.000 That was always the point.

02:56:24.000 I'm super excited for XPay, though, because.

02:56:28.000 My last payout was down.

02:56:30.000 My last payout was 30% up, $6,500.

02:56:34.000 Usually I do 4K.

02:56:35.000 Yeah.

02:56:36.000 So it's up.

02:56:37.000 I figured that if I just post the word Israel, I'd make like 100 bucks.

02:56:40.000 Yeah. 0.67

02:56:40.000 Yeah, it's wild. 0.67

02:56:41.000 These retards, like, dude, imagine a bunch of just like monkeys in a pen. 1.00

02:56:47.000 Well, there's an attention economy on both sides. 1.00

02:56:49.000 And it looks like I'm just.

02:56:52.000 If you want to generate engagement, it's funny because I posted something like the Israel cast thing.

02:56:57.000 And then this anti Israel guy's like, You're not funny.

02:56:59.000 You just do this for money and engagement.

02:57:00.000 And people are like, Bro, you're giving it to him. 1.00

02:57:02.000 What the fuck? 0.99

02:57:04.000 When you did the A B test, it was like Israel, Israel, Israel. 1.00

02:57:06.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:57:07.000 I had a video and then you could do A B test titles.

02:57:10.000 And so I put like thing happens.

02:57:12.000 Then I put shorter, all caps, thing happens.

02:57:14.000 And then I was like, I don't even have one.

02:57:15.000 I was like, Israel, Israel, Israel.

02:57:17.000 And that won by like 10%.

02:57:18.000 No, it did that much better of 10%. 0.58

02:57:20.000 Israel, Israel, Israel. 0.71

02:57:23.000 Yeah. 1.00

02:57:24.000 People are fucking dumb, dude. 1.00

02:57:26.000 My God. 1.00

02:57:27.000 I don't know.

02:57:28.000 Anyway, man.

02:57:29.000 Yeah.

02:57:29.000 What else is there?

02:57:30.000 You want to add anything or what's going on?

02:57:33.000 No, yeah.

02:57:33.000 And I love the double entendres you'll throw at them.

02:57:36.000 Like, one of my all time favorites is Trump, We Don't Deserve You.

02:57:41.000 Yes, yeah. 1.00

02:57:41.000 And have the bullshit. 1.00

02:57:42.000 That's Michael Malice's, We Don't Deserve Trump. 1.00

02:57:47.000 It plays both sides.

02:57:49.000 Yeah, Malice is a genius.

02:57:49.000 Yeah.

02:57:52.000 He's a good guy.

02:57:53.000 Yep.

02:57:54.000 We don't deserve Trump.

02:57:57.000 I did want to shout you out, man.

02:58:00.000 Like, just on a real level, like man to man, man.

02:58:03.000 I. In 2020, I found you.

02:58:06.000 I think it was 2019.

02:58:07.000 I found you.

02:58:08.000 You were off doing your videos.

02:58:10.000 And I was living in Portland, Oregon.

02:58:13.000 Oh, wow.

02:58:14.000 About a year goes by, and they really started to ramp up the George Floyd protests. 1.00

02:58:20.000 And having you scream in my face every single day, what kind of fucking retard would live in this city? 1.00

02:58:29.000 There's fires all over the place. 1.00

02:58:31.000 I was, I was, I never graduated from high school, but just through tenacity, I ended up as an executive at a pretty large company. 0.94

02:58:40.000 And the final day, my wife was stopped for her white fragility to reject it. 0.87

02:58:45.000 And she didn't even know what that meant. 0.78

02:58:48.000 And I sold everything.

02:58:50.000 Wow.

02:58:52.000 I didn't have a whole lot of money.

02:58:54.000 I didn't own a house.

02:58:55.000 This is, you know, I'm mid 20s, but I sold everything and I went and I started my own business.

02:59:02.000 I started with a rake and a bucket and I had a couple hundred dollars to throw at marketing.

02:59:07.000 And I, Have built that to a six figure revenue.

02:59:14.000 Whoa.

02:59:16.000 I've got multiple businesses.

02:59:19.000 And in January, I'm like, you know, I get emotional about it, man.

02:59:24.000 Like in January, we purchased the farm.

02:59:27.000 We've got 10 acres.

02:59:29.000 I've got 100 chickens outside.

02:59:31.000 100 chickens.

02:59:33.000 Yeah, I built the coop. 1.00

02:59:34.000 Those guys are so dumb. 1.00

02:59:36.000 I found a gardener snake and I tossed the gardener snake in there. 1.00

02:59:38.000 They're all chasing for it.

02:59:39.000 It's hilarious. 1.00

02:59:40.000 Those guys are so dumb, man. 1.00

02:59:42.000 But they're funny. 1.00

02:59:43.000 But yeah, man, I just wanted to say thank you because that's amazing.

02:59:48.000 Yeah, I think that there's all that.

02:59:51.000 What I've found is that any excuse will do if you don't think that you can get out of where you're at.

02:59:56.000 I moved to a red area.

02:59:57.000 I'm still in Oregon, but I'm in the country.

03:00:02.000 I know all my neighbors. 0.83

03:00:05.000 And if the worst push comes to shove, I've got a very valuable asset that can be sold off to move to a red state.

03:00:11.000 But yeah, man, that's kind of what I wanted to shout out to you, Bill. 0.54

03:00:17.000 I wish more people would get off their butts and realize they can do it.

03:00:21.000 You just got to do the work, you know? 0.98

03:00:23.000 Yep.

03:00:24.000 Do the work. 1.00

03:00:26.000 My wife hasn't worked a job for the last four years because of it.

03:00:29.000 And so it's like.

03:00:30.000 Nice.

03:00:31.000 Yeah.

03:00:31.000 It's been really cool.

03:00:32.000 So I appreciate it, dude.

03:00:33.000 Oh, well, good job, dude.

03:00:35.000 Congratulations.

03:00:35.000 Yeah, congratulations.

03:00:36.000 That's awesome.

03:00:37.000 Well, thanks for calling in, man.

03:00:38.000 I appreciate it.

03:00:39.000 Absolutely.

03:00:40.000 Talk to you guys soon.

03:00:41.000 Have a good one, brother.

03:00:43.000 Right on.

03:00:44.000 Well, that about does it for tonight's.

03:00:45.000 Who do we have on tomorrow?

03:00:46.000 Tomorrow we've got Theo Wold.

03:00:51.000 There we go.

03:00:52.000 Theo Vaughn?

03:00:53.000 No.

03:00:54.000 It's always great to have you, Alex.

03:00:56.000 Oh, I love coming here, Tim.

03:00:57.000 One of my good friends.

03:00:59.000 I'd do anything for you.

03:01:00.000 And it's always a pleasure when you give me the opportunity.

03:01:02.000 Anything, huh? 1.00

03:01:03.000 I mean, this has been a very gay centric episode. 1.00

03:01:06.000 I try to straighten it up. 1.00

03:01:09.000 Not anything, but almost anything. 1.00

03:01:11.000 I was going to say kiss Ian, but, you know, that's still gay. 1.00

03:01:15.000 I know, just not with me. 1.00

03:01:16.000 I'm married.

03:01:17.000 All right, everybody.

03:01:19.000 Thanks for hanging out.

03:01:20.000 It's been a blast.

03:01:21.000 We're back tomorrow, of course, and we'll see you all then.

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