Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - SHOCK Report PROVES Trump Right, 15,000 Migrant MURDERERS AT LARGE w-Riley Moore | Timcast IRL

00:00:00.000 It's a crazy new report.

00:00:21.000 15,000 killers, 20,000 sexual assault convicts, 60,000 robbers are among the illegal immigrants that were released into this country and are currently at large, proving Donald Trump was right. 1.00

00:00:32.000 We knew he was right the whole time because we pay attention to the news, but the media is acting like it's not true.

00:00:37.000 And now we've got the horrifying report which has been going viral all day, just about All of the at-large criminals, serious criminals, and it's no surprise that when you hear about Trendé Aragua and these other gangs and the crime that is happening in these, you know, various cities, it's no surprise the media is trying to lie about it.

00:00:55.000 We've got another story that the National Crime Victimization Survey says, guess what?

00:00:59.000 Crime is way up.

00:01:01.000 So when they go and ask people about crime, yeah, crime's up.

00:01:03.000 The FBI report says crime's actually down, technically, because no one's reporting their crimes to us anymore.

00:01:10.000 So we'll break all that down.

00:01:11.000 We got big news about, you know, Israel reportedly killing the leader of Hezbollah.

00:01:17.000 You know, I imagine most people don't care as much about foreign policy because it's less likely to affect you, but considering we're looking at World War III over here and it's right before an election, this may actually be extremely important.

00:01:28.000 So we'll talk about that.

00:01:29.000 And then I'm really excited for this one because Nate Silver and Alan Lichtman are going at it on X.

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00:01:43.000 Now he's claiming Harris will win.

00:01:45.000 Nate Silver's also given Harris a 58% chance to win.

00:01:48.000 But Nate Silver's pointing out that Alan Lichtman's prediction model, the keys, it favors Donald Trump.

00:01:55.000 Trump should be winning based on his model.

00:01:56.000 But Lichtman is like, no, I'm right.

00:01:58.000 You're wrong.

00:01:59.000 So we'll talk about that, my friends.

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00:03:14.000 We got a massive panel tonight.

00:03:15.000 Joining us to talk about this and so much more is Riley Moore.

00:03:18.000 Tim, thanks for having me on.

00:03:20.000 Riley Moore, State Treasurer, West Virginia, also Republican nominee for Congress in West Virginia.

00:03:26.000 And quick shout out to Jay over at True Performance Fitness.

00:03:31.000 He's a big listener.

00:03:32.000 He loves this show, watches it every night.

00:03:34.000 So I just want to say, Jay, what's up, dude?

00:03:36.000 Right on.

00:03:37.000 And I think you're the only member, well, you're about to be a member of Congress.

00:03:41.000 I think it's a foregone conclusion.

00:03:43.000 I think you're probably the only member who can do a kickflip.

00:03:45.000 I guarantee I'm the only member, so right now I am the number one-ranked skateboarder state treasurer in West Virginia.

00:03:52.000 I'm looking forward to being the number one-ranked congressional member in skateboarding.

00:03:57.000 Unless somebody really good shows up, then I'm going to be pretty bummed.

00:03:59.000 I think maybe in ten years or so, we're going to start seeing more members of Congress who skate.

00:04:05.000 It's just a generational thing.

00:04:06.000 Yeah, I think you're right about that.

00:04:07.000 Cool, we have that video where you landed a kickflip to fakie on the bank.

00:04:10.000 Yeah!

00:04:12.000 Yeah, yeah, we got Clint hanging out.

00:04:13.000 Yo! 1.00

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00:04:16.000 I also do The Best Political Show with Luke Grodowski, former co-host of This Fine Program.

00:04:20.000 And by the way, I can confirm, I saw him doing kickflips when I got in here.

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00:04:23.000 Alright.

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00:04:25.000 Thanks.

00:04:26.000 What else?

00:04:27.000 Dude, Tower Gang.

00:04:28.000 Don't watch that.

00:04:28.000 We got Josie in the building, too.

00:04:31.000 Hi, I'm Josie.

00:04:32.000 I'm the redhead of the Libertarian on X. I do outside media work here at TimCast.com, and I also host a show on X called Spaces with Josie, where I interview some of the coolest people on the planet.

00:04:41.000 I just had Rob Schneider on my show this week.

00:04:43.000 Wow.

00:04:44.000 Libby's hanging out.

00:04:44.000 I'm Libby Emmons.

00:04:45.000 I'm hanging out.

00:04:46.000 I'm with the Postmillennial and Human Events.

00:04:47.000 Glad to be here, everyone.

00:04:49.000 Here we go, let's jump into the news from the Washington Times.

00:04:53.000 This is a headline, I tell you, this is a headline.

00:04:56.000 15,000 killers, 20,000 sexual assault convicts, 60,000 robbers among illegal immigrants at large. 0.97

00:05:03.000 The Department of Homeland Security knows of at least 660,000 illegal immigrants at large in the U.S.

00:05:09.000 with criminal records.

00:05:11.000 Including, as they say, why is the number different than the headline?

00:05:14.000 It says 13,000 convicted killers, nearly 16,000 convicted of sexual assault, and 56,000 involved in dangerous drugs.

00:05:20.000 Thousands of other migrants have been charged but not yet convicted of those and other crimes.

00:05:24.000 Ah, I see.

00:05:25.000 They are part of U.S. 0.58

00:05:26.000 Immigration and Customs Enforcement's non-detained docket.

00:05:29.000 ICE provided the data to Congress and the House Homeland Security Committee released it Friday, just as Vice President Kamala Harris was to land in Arizona for her first visit to the border in more than three years.

00:05:39.000 It may be shocking to hear that the Biden-Harris administration is actively releasing tens of thousands of criminal, illegal aliens into our communities, but their own numbers conclusively prove this to be the case, said Rep.

00:05:51.000 Mark Green, committee chairman.

00:05:52.000 On social media, former President Donald Trump said the new data should force Ms. 1.00

00:05:57.000 Harris to cancel her border appearance.

00:05:59.000 Kamala should immediately cancel her news conference because it was just revealed 13,000 convicted murderers entered our country during her three and a half years as borders are. 1.00

00:06:08.000 That's crazy.

00:06:09.000 These numbers are absolutely nuts, but all they're doing is quantifying what we already knew.

00:06:13.000 I think the really funny thing about it though is how they... I don't know how you look at this and you would agree that crime is down.

00:06:21.000 No, the fact that there are criminal aliens in this country at all is inherent that there are criminals in this country and being here is illegal.

00:06:31.000 Just the act of being here is illegal.

00:06:33.000 I'm appreciating that talking point, getting more air time.

00:06:35.000 I think I saw Nancy Mace and someone else, some other member of Congress saying the first thing they did was break the law.

00:06:41.000 They're all criminals, right?

00:06:43.000 They've all committed a criminal act.

00:06:45.000 Yeah, and every state now is a border state, including West Virginia.

00:06:49.000 Just not far from this studio that we are at in the eastern panhandle of West Virginia, an illegal immigrant from Venezuela this year murdered a woman, turns out was also a convicted murderer in Venezuela, and then set her on fire.

00:07:05.000 Oh my goodness.

00:07:05.000 Wow.

00:07:06.000 That happened here.

00:07:07.000 That's horrifying.

00:07:09.000 It's happening everywhere.

00:07:11.000 It's happening everywhere.

00:07:12.000 Every state is a border state.

00:07:14.000 What I find really interesting about these numbers is that these are people who were already convicted of crimes.

00:07:20.000 It's not just that they are suspected of crimes or that they did these crimes when they came here necessarily.

00:07:26.000 These are people who were convicted in their own countries and then came here.

00:07:32.000 My question is, how do they know this?

00:07:34.000 And if they did know this, why were they not immediately deported? 0.92

00:07:37.000 Dude, these people are coming in, and CBP is like, hold on there a minute, are you a murderer, rapist, robber? 0.93

00:07:43.000 I'm a murderer, okay, and right this way, sir, come on in. 0.74

00:07:46.000 Well, one thing that happens, though, is that part of the questions that the Border Patrol asks are, are you afraid to go home?

00:07:53.000 Do you fear for your life in your own country?

00:07:55.000 And if you answer yes to those questions, that you're afraid, for your life in your own country, they say, okay, we can

00:08:00.000 mark you down as an asylum seeker, come on in. And because they removed the wait in Mexico 0.76

00:08:05.000 policy, everyone is just waiting here.

00:08:08.000 But what's interesting too, is if you talk to immigration attorneys, most people who apply for

00:08:13.000 asylum are not actually eligible for it, and they are not approved for their asylum cases. But the

00:08:18.000 cases happen so many years down the road, that it's very difficult to get them out. And we have

00:08:23.000 a DHS secretary who does not believe in the policy of deportation, even for one person.

00:08:28.000 Well, if there's any list of people that ought to be deported, it'd probably be the 15,000 killers,

00:08:33.000 20,000 sexual assault convicts, and 60,000 robbers. Like, at a...

00:08:37.000 At this point, you have to assume this is cloud pivot, that they are in fact trying to overthrow the system.

00:08:43.000 I'm trying to be nice.

00:08:44.000 And I say, on the surface, you look at the jobs report, you look at the mass spending, how are they going to deal with the mass spending for Ukraine and Israel and Taiwan?

00:08:56.000 They gotta bring in as many workers as possible and just flood the system because you gotta get the jobs numbers up, right?

00:09:02.000 That's me being nice.

00:09:03.000 When I see reports like this, I'm like, these people aren't working.

00:09:09.000 You cannot explain.

00:09:11.000 If their real goal was simply, we gotta get more workers, fast-track work visas and all of these things, they wouldn't be bringing in murderers and rapists.

00:09:22.000 They'd say, no, no, no, you can leave.

00:09:23.000 But the people who are going to go, you know, get jobs can stay.

00:09:26.000 They're not.

00:09:26.000 They're letting them all in.

00:09:27.000 Well, you bring up the funding for Taiwan, Ukraine and Israel.

00:09:31.000 And of course, that was a huge part of the border bill that was rejected in June.

00:09:35.000 It was the majority of funding for all of these foreign things.

00:09:39.000 And there was like way less funding for the border.

00:09:42.000 And the funding that there was for the border, and I'm glad that, you know, you're going to be our congressman because I think you'll fight against this kind of stuff.

00:09:48.000 Well, thank you.

00:09:48.000 It's like the first thing Riley does when he gets in is he just funds Israel like a hundred million dollars.

00:09:54.000 But the thing is that in this bill, the funding that was for the border was for more judges and for more agents so that they could process people into the country faster.

00:10:04.000 It wasn't for border security.

00:10:06.000 It wasn't to prevent illegal immigration.

00:10:08.000 It wasn't to make sure That the people who get away and aren't even, you know, quantified get deported and get sent home.

00:10:16.000 It wasn't to find the, what, like 300,000 missing children.

00:10:20.000 It wasn't to actually perform proper vetting on the sponsors who are bringing people in.

00:10:26.000 It wasn't for any of those things.

00:10:27.000 It was to allow for more people to come in.

00:10:29.000 And it still facilitated, what, like 5,000 some people a day, 1.8 million, which is already far more than Trump had in 2021.

00:10:37.000 It was 480,000.

00:10:39.000 Yeah, and let's not forget there have been—and to their own admission, so who knows what the real number is—hundreds of people on the terror watch list that have made it into this country.

00:10:52.000 Terrorists.

00:10:53.000 Terrorists that they will admit to us that have come into the country. 0.72

00:10:58.000 God knows what the actual number is.

00:11:00.000 I do think the current polling though is also interesting too because where do most of these illegal immigrants go?

00:11:07.000 They go to communities where there's already people from Venezuela or whatever country they're coming from.

00:11:14.000 More than half of the Hispanic population in the United States are saying they're going to vote for Trump.

00:11:20.000 Right?

00:11:20.000 Because it's making their neighborhoods more dangerous.

00:11:23.000 They don't want this.

00:11:24.000 Nobody wants this.

00:11:25.000 Wasn't it Matt Gaetz that just said, I think it was yesterday or two days ago, that there's shoulder-fired missile launchers that are being- What?

00:11:33.000 You didn't hear about this?

00:11:34.000 No.

00:11:35.000 Yeah.

00:11:35.000 Where?

00:11:36.000 He's pretty reliable.

00:11:37.000 I'll tell you.

00:11:37.000 That's according to Matt Gaetz.

00:11:38.000 They said they came across the border.

00:11:39.000 There's those teams that are that are trying to take out Trump.

00:11:42.000 They in fact have shoulder fired missiles to try and take out Trump force one or whatever

00:11:47.000 they call it.

00:11:48.000 I have no idea if this is true.

00:11:49.000 This is according to Matt Gaetz, though.

00:11:50.000 So it's like he's pretty reliable.

00:11:51.000 I'll tell you the Iranians. 1.00

00:11:54.000 I find it hard to believe that it's in fact happening from the Iranians without there being some sort of permission. 1.00

00:11:59.000 Like, why would you allow these people into the country if you're not also working in tandem with the people that are doing this?

00:12:05.000 It doesn't really add up to me.

00:12:07.000 They arrested the Pakistani guy.

00:12:10.000 Yeah, but they didn't arrest the people with the... I mean, they know that there's a bunch of strike teams with shoulder-fired missiles, but they don't have them arrested, detained, stopped, prevented?

00:12:18.000 How did you get those missiles over the border?

00:12:19.000 I mean, it's not like a suitcase where you're like, oh, here's my missile.

00:12:23.000 Like, how did they get across the border?

00:12:25.000 I mean, have you guys ever been to Tijuana?

00:12:27.000 Oh yeah, I've been to Tijuana.

00:12:29.000 That's where I pick up all my shoulder-fare missiles.

00:12:34.000 You can walk across, that's true.

00:12:37.000 You can swim!

00:12:38.000 Apparently there are people, because I'm hanging out in Tijuana and I'm on the beach, and you walk to the fence and there's a big hole in it.

00:12:45.000 You can literally just walk through the hole.

00:12:47.000 And then there's nothing on the other side.

00:12:49.000 I guess it is pretty porous.

00:12:50.000 I mean, there's literally a gigantic hole in the fence that I was like, I could, you know, a fat person couldn't squeeze through it, but I could.

00:12:57.000 And then if you look way down, there was one CBP guy just standing there.

00:13:00.000 And I'm like, I guess if you climb through, he sees you.

00:13:02.000 But what they do is they have those things that you go underwater with.

00:13:06.000 You ever see them?

00:13:06.000 You like hold it and then you, you, you like press, you pull the trigger and then it's got jets and it pulls you.

00:13:12.000 And they're, they're like fun.

00:13:13.000 I don't know.

00:13:13.000 But they have a, they'll put on scuba gear and they'll go underwater.

00:13:17.000 They go not that far up into Tijuana and they just go underwater and they go, I don't know, you know, 500 feet into the U.S.

00:13:24.000 and then pop up and walk right in.

00:13:25.000 That just sounds amazing.

00:13:27.000 Like, let them in the country if they went through all that trouble.

00:13:29.000 Yeah.

00:13:29.000 But, you know, I was when I was down there, I was talking to a guy.

00:13:32.000 I had an Uber and I was kind of kind of scary, really.

00:13:35.000 We're in this Uber and the guy is like, he's like, oh, you are from America.

00:13:40.000 And I'm like, yeah.

00:13:40.000 And he's like, I used to live in America.

00:13:42.000 I had to leave.

00:13:44.000 And he basically said that he lived in San Fran for a decade illegally.

00:13:47.000 He was an illegal immigrant working in a legal job.

00:13:49.000 And then he had to come down because his mom got sick or something.

00:13:52.000 So when he tried to come back, he went with the cartels who put up a 40-foot ladder

00:13:56.000 and he climbed the fence.

00:13:57.000 And then when CBP came, they pulled it from him and he fell down and broke his legs.

00:14:00.000 And he was just like, I'm going to go back.

00:14:02.000 And I'm like, geez, dude.

00:14:06.000 That's like, it's so messed up.

00:14:08.000 I don't know.

00:14:08.000 The sentiment they have there is like, whatever it takes to get into the United States.

00:14:12.000 Well, that's the thing about our natural rights.

00:14:14.000 Everything in the Bill of Rights applies to anybody with feet on our soil. 0.99

00:14:18.000 So they get in two feet on the soil, and then they're entitled to have a hearing, to be entitled to the Fifth Amendment, to be entitled to the Sixth Amendment.

00:14:28.000 to be entitled to the First Amendment. So that's what's so important about them getting in here,

00:14:33.000 and they get in here and they get processed and then they can go missing and they never show up

00:14:36.000 for their trial four years later, you know, because that's what happens.

00:14:39.000 Joe Biden's dismissing them.

00:14:41.000 So like his move for mass amnesty, which they keep sort of hinting at.

00:14:48.000 And if Kamala gets into office, I'm sure that it's going to be an executive order of mass amnesty or something.

00:14:54.000 So Congress is in charge, per the Constitution, Congress is in charge of the naturalization process.

00:14:59.000 But they need to have a uniform naturalization process for everybody.

00:15:02.000 They can't just say, oh, the southern border goers can just get amnesty and everybody else has to go through a process.

00:15:09.000 It has to be one general thing.

00:15:11.000 So what they're trying to do is, in order to completely change the fabric of our country, They want to put these immigrants into these little towns in Ohio and in Pennsylvania and, you know, just install these immigrants into those places. 1.00

00:15:24.000 And what that does, eventually, if they're naturalized, they go into the census, and the census is what determines the electoral college.

00:15:31.000 So they're like, all right, well, these blue states are going to have more electors.

00:15:34.000 And this is a very long game.

00:15:35.000 And this is what they're doing.

00:15:37.000 And that's why that border bill that they tried to push through would have codified everything happening now and offered amnesty to all these people.

00:15:43.000 That's what Elon Musk has been warning about for about a year now.

00:15:46.000 So Josie, just to put a finer point on it.

00:15:52.000 The apportionment of congressional districts is not made up of citizens.

00:15:56.000 It is made up of residents, people, just people there, right?

00:16:01.000 So it could be, you know, if you have, just like you said, massive amounts of illegal immigrants living in a... There are some congressional districts where maybe half of them can't vote.

00:16:13.000 But you still get a congressional district out of it.

00:16:15.000 That's crazy.

00:16:15.000 Something also interesting with this, I actually interviewed Chip Roy on my show, and we were talking about this because he had come up with the SAFE Act.

00:16:23.000 And the SAFE Act was essentially to not let illegal immigrants vote. 0.85

00:16:28.000 So we were talking about that, and I had told him, and the Constitution, and under every amendment added to the Constitution about voting, which are 15, 19, 24, and 26, it all says it is the right of citizens And then they go on and they want to kind of amend the Constitution, make it the right of residence.

00:16:45.000 So this is very important to look at.

00:16:48.000 This is why they were changing the language several years ago, and I think they kind of dropped the campaign.

00:16:54.000 But when they're saying, don't call them illegal immigrants, call them migrants, they started calling them undocumented citizens.

00:17:00.000 This was a big... Google search the phrase, undocumented citizen.

00:17:04.000 That's sneaky.

00:17:05.000 Yeah, because if you change the language, you change the laws.

00:17:08.000 And so that's why they're saying woman means whatever you want it to mean, because then it changes all of the laws underneath. 0.94

00:17:14.000 Well, that's a big thing, too.

00:17:15.000 Like I just saw in The Intercept the other day, and I posted about this, they now don't want you to say migrant.

00:17:20.000 They didn't say exactly what they don't want you to say, but at first they said, don't say illegal alien because that's dehumanizing.

00:17:28.000 No one is an alien.

00:17:29.000 And then they said, you know, say illegal immigrant instead.

00:17:33.000 And then they said saying illegal immigrant, you know, that's... No one is illegal.

00:17:37.000 That's villainizing.

00:17:38.000 People aren't illegal.

00:17:40.000 Oh my goodness.

00:17:40.000 So now you say migrant, and now they don't want you to say migrant anymore.

00:17:43.000 And the next thing is just going to be mass amnesty for everybody.

00:17:47.000 Everybody in the world is a citizen of the United States, and Americans get no rights. 0.99

00:17:51.000 Yeah.

00:17:51.000 And look, the word alien we've been using since the beginning of this country, the Alien and Sedition Act, right?

00:17:56.000 Yes.

00:17:56.000 It's still on every federal piece of paper.

00:17:59.000 Right.

00:18:00.000 Are you an alien?

00:18:00.000 Yeah.

00:18:01.000 Right.

00:18:01.000 Yeah.

00:18:01.000 I mean, so... They changed the law when they stopped using the word.

00:18:05.000 Yep.

00:18:05.000 Yeah.

00:18:06.000 Just like they entirely changed Title IX and all of the civil rights legislation when they changed the word woman and when they conflated biological sex with gender identity, which totally changes the entire definition of those terms.

00:18:23.000 I think we got to come up with words.

00:18:25.000 You know, what are we doing over here?

00:18:27.000 They're saying newcomer.

00:18:29.000 They keep changing language in this weird way.

00:18:30.000 We got to go the other direction.

00:18:32.000 What's a word?

00:18:33.000 I don't want to be mean, but we want to be descriptive. 0.97

00:18:36.000 I just call the illegals criminal aliens. 1.00

00:18:40.000 That's what they are. 1.00

00:18:42.000 Criminals and they're aliens. 0.92

00:18:43.000 And I just put the two words together.

00:18:45.000 I suppose that's good.

00:18:46.000 That's legally what it's called.

00:18:48.000 That's what they are.

00:18:48.000 A criminal alien is an individual who came to the country illegally.

00:18:51.000 Yeah.

00:18:52.000 I've never been a big fan of illegal immigrant.

00:18:54.000 And I'm like, the immigrant himself is illegal?

00:18:57.000 Like, he's a contraband?

00:18:59.000 Nah, no.

00:19:00.000 I don't like it because it takes up too much space in a headline.

00:19:03.000 It's like a lot of real estate.

00:19:06.000 It makes them sound based.

00:19:07.000 But I say this to the progressives and they're like, don't say illegal immigrant.

00:19:10.000 I'm like, I agree.

00:19:11.000 I say criminal alien. 0.97

00:19:11.000 Yes, me too. 0.97

00:19:12.000 And to Chip Roy's bill there, which is very important, they're like, oh, that's already illegal.

00:19:18.000 They can't vote in elections.

00:19:20.000 Don't forget, in New York City, they do allow.

00:19:24.000 People who are not here legally in this country, who are non-U.S. 0.99

00:19:28.000 citizens— I think that got struck down.

00:19:30.000 Yeah.

00:19:30.000 It did get struck down, but they're going to try again, and they're trying again in other municipalities across the country as well.

00:19:36.000 But they did pass it.

00:19:37.000 Yeah, and it got struck down at the—yeah, the high court struck it down.

00:19:41.000 Right.

00:19:41.000 They want them to vote in local elections, local school board elections, city council elections, anything that affects them directly.

00:19:48.000 But then we see like what happened in Oregon, where because of the motor voter laws, they registered, you know, I think 1,300 or something, maybe it's more than that, people who are not actually eligible to vote.

00:20:01.000 They just automatically defaulted to you have a U.S.

00:20:03.000 passport and you're eligible to vote.

00:20:05.000 I can tell you why the SAVE Act is so important.

00:20:07.000 It's because In the Constitution, or the Bill of Rights, you have the Ninth and the Tenth Amendments, and that says anything that we didn't write down in the articles, it goes to the states or to the individuals.

00:20:17.000 And the founders left voting to each state.

00:20:20.000 That was important to them, that how you want to vote in your state is how it's going to be.

00:20:25.000 We're not going to do a uniform thing for this.

00:20:26.000 And that's why there's no voting aside from the Electoral College process written into the Constitution.

00:20:33.000 So they started, though, started regulating it.

00:20:35.000 They did first with the 15th Amendment with the slaves, and then they're like, all right, well, women, you know, we shouldn't discriminate against them either. 1.00

00:20:40.000 And they, you know, kind of kept elaborating.

00:20:41.000 They gave federal power of a sense to the federal government when it came to regulating elections.

00:20:47.000 So under the 9th Amendment, Early on, before any of this, there were states that were having freed slaves vote in their election.

00:20:58.000 There were states that were having women vote in their elections. 0.87

00:21:00.000 Colorado and Wyoming, I believe.

00:21:03.000 So now they're at a point where the states are like, well, it is our right, you know, because we agree with states' rights when we want to.

00:21:11.000 It is our right.

00:21:11.000 We can hold these elections.

00:21:12.000 If we want to have illegals vote in our elections, then hey, we can do that. 1.00

00:21:15.000 And you know, they technically can under the founders, but there is precedent now for the federal government to regulate states when it comes to something huge like that, and as they kind of already did with putting citizens in each of the voting amendments.

00:21:34.000 I'm about as strong a state's rights guy as you can find, but I still think that if it's a federal election, there probably has to be federal guidelines on who's allowed to vote.

00:21:42.000 Yes.

00:21:43.000 Because otherwise it's total madness.

00:21:45.000 In the end of the day, what all of this is doing, whether it's California giving them a driver's license, health care, or whatever else, it's the erosion of what it means to be a citizen.

00:21:58.000 Literally, what can you do as a citizen that a resident cannot?

00:22:02.000 That list grows smaller and smaller and smaller.

00:22:07.000 Sometimes.

00:22:07.000 Constantly, it's shrinking.

00:22:09.000 A legal resident of this country is paying the same taxes.

00:22:11.000 You just can't vote.

00:22:12.000 Oh, a legal resident.

00:22:13.000 Right, right, right.

00:22:14.000 Yeah, no, no.

00:22:14.000 If you're here illegally, it's like – a lot of – the left always says, oh, illegal immigrants, they pay their taxes and when they buy stuff, but they're not going to file because they're going to get deported.

00:22:23.000 What do you mean?

00:22:23.000 Exactly.

00:22:24.000 Yeah.

00:22:25.000 So essentially the rights that you have, the difference in between somebody who's a resident here and a citizen is continually shrinking, which, I mean, erodes literally kind of the sanctity of citizenship in a country which it comes with

00:22:40.000 rights but also comes with responsibilities like you just talked about like taxes

00:22:44.000 right kind of civic duty some things that are supposed to come along with

00:22:48.000 rights it's rights and responsibilities but you know those things are kind of set

00:22:52.000 aside with all these giveaways that were and you saw in California here

00:22:56.000 recently they're gonna have a hundred fifty thousand dollar giveaway I got vetoed

00:23:00.000 but a hundred fifty thousand dollar giveaway on first-time homebuyers for

00:23:04.000 people are here illegally it's like okay if they came out and they 1.00

00:23:08.000 said permanent residents who are non-citizens we're gonna give you a house 1.00

00:23:11.000 I'd still be like oh wow that's crazy what about citizens no it's illegal

00:23:15.000 immigrants yeah what did what is it was it common or is a Pelosi I think was Pelosi

00:23:19.000 and she's like well people want the American dream yeah 1.00

00:23:22.000 It's like, yeah, people who were born here... And keep in mind, too, I spent the first 35 years of my life in California.

00:23:28.000 Over half of my friends that I grew up with have never bought a house because in California it is so cost prohibitive they just simply can't do it.

00:23:35.000 Well, I had to leave the state.

00:23:36.000 I had to leave my home to buy a house.

00:23:38.000 Well, exactly.

00:23:39.000 And that's what most people born in California end up doing.

00:23:43.000 But my point is, if you're going to turn around as you have all of the domestic-born population fleeing to cheaper pastures, and then you're going to offer a $150,000 forgivable loan or whatever you want to classify it as to allow illegal immigrants to purchase homes, that's unbelievably unjust. 0.93

00:23:58.000 I figured it out.

00:24:00.000 All Gen Z has to do is crumple up their ID, throw it away, go to the border, and be like, I'm here illegally. 0.99

00:24:06.000 Right.

00:24:06.000 I'd like a house.

00:24:06.000 And then they'll be like, right away, sir.

00:24:08.000 Yeah, it's literally- You get a house, healthcare, driver's license, you know.

00:24:11.000 Well, I think there's a long game there, too.

00:24:13.000 I mean, they default on their mortgage, and who buys it up?

00:24:16.000 BlackRock?

00:24:17.000 State Street?

00:24:18.000 Vanguard?

00:24:19.000 Yeah, it's not just with mortgages either though, it's with rental income.

00:24:22.000 Like I was reading about, you know, the recent kerfuffle over Springfield, Ohio, which a lot of people were talking about, nobody had ever heard of before really, but including myself, you know, I never paid attention really to Springfield, Ohio.

00:24:35.000 I was reading about it, and in a lot of cases what happens is the illegal migrants are illegal aliens, criminal aliens, what are we coming up with?

00:24:41.000 I don't know. 0.85

00:24:42.000 They're criminal aliens. 0.96

00:24:43.000 The border crossers who came in, these are mostly people on Joe Biden. 0.89

00:24:47.000 That's not fair.

00:24:48.000 They're illegal border crossers. 1.00

00:24:50.000 This is the parole program.

00:24:52.000 These are people who came in on Joe Biden, Kamala Harris's parole program, primarily from, you know, Haiti, Venezuela, Cuba, Nicaragua.

00:24:59.000 What happens is, as part of that program and as part of their temporary protected status, they get all of this money for housing.

00:25:06.000 So they come to landlords, building managers, and they say, I have all this money for housing.

00:25:11.000 So all of the rents jack up to meet that.

00:25:14.000 So people are paying like $3,000 a month for apartments in Springfield, Ohio.

00:25:19.000 And then you have some landlords who are saying, okay, well, since I know that if you pay $3,000 a month, you're going to cram 20 people in this apartment.

00:25:27.000 I'm now going to charge you per person." 0.83

00:25:29.000 So they're charging rent per person in these apartments, making it very difficult for people who just want to live without being crammed into an apartment with 30 different, you know, people.

00:25:41.000 Very impossible.

00:25:42.000 It makes it very impossible.

00:25:42.000 And the same thing when the government got involved with education.

00:25:45.000 Same thing happened.

00:25:46.000 The prices jacked up when they got involved.

00:25:47.000 For tuition.

00:25:48.000 Yes, exactly.

00:25:48.000 Same thing when they got involved with... Or health care.

00:25:52.000 Exactly.

00:25:53.000 They jacked the prices up because they're essentially getting a blank check from the government.

00:25:56.000 It's a crazy thing, too, when you need health care and if you look at your bill when insurance pays it, it's like $600.

00:26:03.000 But if you say, listen, I don't have my insurance or my insurance doesn't cover this, I'm going to pay out of pocket, it's like $100.

00:26:08.000 It's so bizarre.

00:26:11.000 We had Michael Franzese on The Culture War this morning.

00:26:13.000 Do you guys know who he is?

00:26:14.000 Yep.

00:26:15.000 And he was talking about the racket he was involved in where he ultimately went to prison.

00:26:18.000 And he said he was running gas stations where he was committing tax fraud against the government.

00:26:23.000 One point eight million dollars a week.

00:26:24.000 And I started laughing and I'm like, I think all the libertarians are probably clapping right now.

00:26:29.000 Pay your taxes, everybody.

00:26:32.000 I know the libertarians were cheering.

00:26:33.000 Yeah, I'm yeah, tax evasion is kind of based.

00:26:37.000 Anyways, I wanted to give a quick look at a prison though.

00:26:39.000 Yeah, I know.

00:26:40.000 Don't do it, but I'm just saying.

00:26:42.000 It's cool though, otherwise.

00:26:42.000 I want to give a quick shout out to Thomas Massey, who absolutely nailed it on this prediction that the SAVE Act would ultimately be dumped by Speaker Mike Johnson.

00:26:53.000 It's exactly what he did.

00:26:54.000 They ended up with a continuing resolution, I think it's called, to continue the spending for another couple months, and they allow the elections to still be basically wide open.

00:27:03.000 This dude is a disastrous mistake.

00:27:05.000 I am not pointing the blame at... Yeah.

00:27:08.000 Well, I mean, it's like, is he better than McCarthy or... I don't know.

00:27:12.000 Who cares?

00:27:13.000 Watching Kevin McCarthy get ousted was hilarious.

00:27:15.000 I agree with that.

00:27:16.000 I agree with that.

00:27:17.000 It was almost as hilarious as watching him try to get in.

00:27:20.000 Remember those moments?

00:27:21.000 That was insane.

00:27:23.000 I agree with all of that.

00:27:23.000 However, it would be nice if we stopped spending to oblivion, because we are really on the precipice.

00:27:28.000 As Thomas Massey highlights all the time, $35 trillion, we're racking another trillion every 90 days or so.

00:27:34.000 That's truly the definition.

00:27:36.000 If you open up a dictionary and you look at it, it's like, that's unsustainable.

00:27:40.000 That's how we're living right now.

00:27:41.000 And Speaker Mike Johnson is not going to remedy that.

00:27:44.000 I would say this, though.

00:27:45.000 To me, I'd rather shut the government down over the border than the budget at this point.

00:27:50.000 That makes sense.

00:27:51.000 I would rather shut the government down over the border than the budget because it's— Well, you had an opportunity to do both.

00:27:58.000 Yes.

00:27:58.000 If Mike Johnson had just done what he was promising to do, that would have been the pathway.

00:28:03.000 Well, I imagine you're in a tough spot, Riley, because you're going to be coming in in a few months.

00:28:09.000 And they know who you are.

00:28:12.000 And you're gonna be, I imagine, more along with a lot of the Freedom Caucus guys.

00:28:16.000 And so I imagine they're probably gonna be making plans.

00:28:18.000 Like, how do we deal with this guy?

00:28:20.000 Just like all these other guys, you know what I mean?

00:28:22.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:28:23.000 We're gonna see.

00:28:24.000 Dude, you gotta squad up with Massey.

00:28:27.000 But that's my thing.

00:28:31.000 Let's say we got the budget fixed somehow.

00:28:35.000 Let's say, wave a magic wand, you got the budget fixed.

00:28:39.000 If you lose the country, does it matter if we got two million people pouring over the border?

00:28:45.000 It doesn't matter.

00:28:47.000 It doesn't matter.

00:28:48.000 We've got to fix the border or you're going to lose the country.

00:28:51.000 You're just going to.

00:28:52.000 Well, the other thing, too, that's part of the border problem is that we are not seeing people come in who want to be Americans.

00:29:02.000 We're seeing people come in who want to take what Americans have or take from the government or create their own enclaves.

00:29:11.000 At the height of immigration, when it was Ellis Island and it was like that great age of immigration and all of that stuff, even when you had a million people come in, Which I think the highest year was a little over a million.

00:29:23.000 It was either 1912 or 1907.

00:29:25.000 I looked it up the other day, now I forget.

00:29:26.000 Those figures seem quaint nowadays.

00:29:28.000 Right?

00:29:29.000 You had people who were coming in who wanted to be American, and the people who came in and didn't like it and didn't want to be American, they went home.

00:29:37.000 We no longer have a situation where you – we do not have the ruling class saying, Come in, be American, you know?

00:29:46.000 Send your kids to public schools, learn how great America is, assimilate. 0.99

00:29:52.000 We now have a situation where people hate the concept of telling people to give up their culture and become American.

00:30:00.000 And if that's what we had, if we had two million people coming in saying, like, I want to be American, I want to learn about America, I want to be a patriot, that would still be way too many people.

00:30:11.000 But it would at least be people who wanted to integrate into the fabric of our life, and that is not what we have.

00:30:19.000 The ruling class hates our culture and doesn't want it, and doesn't want anyone to be part of it, and wants to overturn it.

00:30:25.000 So it's not just that they want to destroy the borders, they want to destroy the culture that we have created.

00:30:30.000 Real quick, I just want to freak everybody out.

00:30:33.000 I pulled up the debt clock.

00:30:34.000 This is 1980.

00:30:36.000 As of this day, 1980, the U.S.

00:30:38.000 national debt was just shy of $1 trillion.

00:30:40.000 It was $994 billion.

00:30:42.000 Alright, well let's do this.

00:30:43.000 Let's, let's, why don't we jump to 1990.

00:30:45.000 Ten years later.

00:30:46.000 Ten years?

00:30:47.000 $3.4 trillion.

00:30:49.000 So, triples.

00:30:50.000 Let's go, that's in ten years.

00:30:53.000 1990, let's jump another ten years.

00:30:55.000 2000, it was $5.5.

00:30:57.000 Didn't even double.

00:30:58.000 Alright.

00:30:59.000 Now let's go from 2000 till 2012.

00:31:03.000 16 trillion.

00:31:03.000 It jumps three times again.

00:31:05.000 And then if you go from 2012 to today, 35.4 trillion.

00:31:10.000 More than doubles.

00:31:11.000 More than doubles.

00:31:11.000 That's a huge number.

00:31:12.000 But just to, if we rewind to 1980, it was less than a trillion in 1980.

00:31:16.000 That means the nation had existed for over 200 years to get to a trillion.

00:31:20.000 We now do that every 100 days, ladies and gentlemen.

00:31:22.000 200 years versus 100 days.

00:31:24.000 So the reason why the powers that be want more immigrants in here, because what that does, that waters down people who believe in the American values, which are the Bill of Rights, which are the Constitution, which are, you know, kind of our founding principles. 0.96

00:31:37.000 And once they have people that aren't going to die for their country, they're going to die to get, you know, like into the country maybe, but they're not going to die for the principles of America.

00:31:48.000 Then they're able to kind of change the Constitution.

00:31:50.000 They're able to get those votes to change the Constitution, to amend the Constitution, and get rid of the Bill of Rights, and pass laws that nobody's going to fight against, and going to assimilation. 0.92

00:32:00.000 People were assimilating with their values, but they were still able to... We had Little Italy.

00:32:04.000 We had Chinatown.

00:32:05.000 We had... You were still able to have your culture, but you were an American because you assimilated with the values that were America.

00:32:12.000 And there was a trade-off.

00:32:13.000 We got pizza, and they got the Bill of Rights.

00:32:15.000 Exactly.

00:32:16.000 Cultural extremes.

00:32:17.000 I mean, what we're doing now is we're essentially treating this country like an economic free trade zone.

00:32:24.000 And if you want to come here and work illegally and undercut the wages of hardworking Americans, The corporate elites are more than happy to give you a job.

00:32:36.000 There's a reason why E-Verify passed a very, very long time ago.

00:32:41.000 And in many states, they've not been able to implement it.

00:32:45.000 It didn't pass in West Virginia.

00:32:47.000 We don't have E-Verify in West Virginia.

00:32:49.000 It got killed by Chamber of Commerce and these other guys. 0.92

00:32:52.000 E-Verify—oh, it's so costly to business, we can't—that's bullcrap.

00:32:59.000 To verify that somebody is legally working in this country should be one of those, in the category of citizens' rights, things that we should be doing.

00:33:10.000 If we're just in the economic free trade zone, then what's the point of all this?

00:33:15.000 Yeah, there's no point to that.

00:33:16.000 I think the problem too is that, yes, they would assimilate, but what do they assimilate to today?

00:33:23.000 What is the shared cultural framework by which we operate?

00:33:26.000 This doesn't even have to do with immigration.

00:33:29.000 Domestically, we are incredibly divided on what it means to be an American.

00:33:32.000 Oh, sure.

00:33:33.000 So I think that is the other reason that it's a bigger challenge for migrants or illegal immigrants or legal immigrants to assimilate to our culture because there's a lot of dispute, just domestically, as to what that culture is.

00:33:45.000 I mean, honest question.

00:33:49.000 New York's got pizza.

00:33:50.000 Philly's got cheesesteak.

00:33:51.000 Chicago's got hot dogs.

00:33:53.000 Is that it?

00:33:54.000 Florida has Florida Man.

00:33:56.000 Florida, man.

00:33:57.000 But you know, what is the... God bless Florida.

00:34:01.000 What is the strong culture of our regions?

00:34:05.000 You know, off the top of your head, it feels like they're intentionally diluting what it means to be American.

00:34:10.000 Yeah.

00:34:11.000 Yes.

00:34:11.000 It feels that way.

00:34:11.000 And their original identities are being diluted as well.

00:34:14.000 Yeah.

00:34:14.000 I mean, just listen to accents.

00:34:17.000 The Southern accent is disappearing, you know?

00:34:19.000 A lot of it's just being replaced with, like, the standard American speech.

00:34:23.000 There's still a little Midwestern accent, but for the most part, they're pretty homogenous.

00:34:28.000 We gotta start calling- We're keeping it real West Virginia with the accents.

00:34:31.000 I love the accents around here, yeah.

00:34:33.000 Well, you know, that's the thing.

00:34:35.000 There's a lot of parts of West Virginia where people live rurally and locally, and so they're not getting the propaganda.

00:34:42.000 The propaganda is telling them how to speak, what to like, what to listen to.

00:34:45.000 I gotta tell you, Riley, it's pretty crazy when I go to like, what is it, Shepherdstown?

00:34:49.000 Shepherdstown, yeah.

00:34:50.000 And it's got the pride flags everywhere.

00:34:51.000 It's a bit much up there.

00:34:53.000 It is a bit much.

00:34:54.000 So many of the people that move into Shepherdstown are former World Bank employees.

00:35:00.000 What?

00:35:00.000 Really?

00:35:01.000 Yes.

00:35:01.000 Are they affiliated with the college there?

00:35:03.000 No, they just retire out there.

00:35:05.000 Some of them retired.

00:35:06.000 The property's on the river, man.

00:35:08.000 Yes.

00:35:09.000 It's beautiful.

00:35:09.000 It's beautiful, and a lot of them are retired.

00:35:12.000 You could walk to the little stuff.

00:35:13.000 Oh, yeah.

00:35:14.000 Retired World Bank employees.

00:35:15.000 Could afford it.

00:35:16.000 Some CIA guys are retired out there, too.

00:35:20.000 World Bank is basically the financial arm of the CIA, along with IMF.

00:35:23.000 That's basically what they do.

00:35:24.000 It's a liberal economic order.

00:35:26.000 And the CIA is intelligence and action and IMF is economic mechanisms.

00:35:31.000 So of course they all retire and they live next to each other.

00:35:34.000 Well, they come here because they don't want to live in the squalor and disgusting garbage that they've implemented or helped implement. 0.53

00:35:41.000 True. 0.86

00:35:42.000 Yeah, well, the way that we find our cultural values is we look at what the communists want to overthrow.

00:35:48.000 What have the communists always wanted to overthrow?

00:35:50.000 Family, religion, history, truth, logic, borders.

00:35:53.000 Good books.

00:35:54.000 Yep, yep.

00:35:55.000 Being beautiful, because that was part of 1984.

00:35:57.000 It's like, you won't be able to tell the difference between what's ugly and beautiful.

00:36:01.000 When we're omnipotent, we're not going to need any need for science.

00:36:04.000 You know, we're going to be able to make things up as we go along.

00:36:06.000 And a lot of that's coming true.

00:36:07.000 So our whole cultural identity is disappearing into, you know, ugliness and kind of like not knowing if you're a boy or a girl and just this this kind of blob of just it was a melting pot and now it's like all the stuff got mixed together in the melting pot where it's not its own little gray goo.

00:36:28.000 Yeah, it's gray goo.

00:36:29.000 I've actually seen the clips that like libs of TikTok will post and it will be like some

00:36:33.000 TikTok person who shows pictures before and after and before they look sort of nice.

00:36:39.000 They dress nicely.

00:36:41.000 They have clear skin.

00:36:42.000 They look nice.

00:36:43.000 They look healthy.

00:36:44.000 And then they go through gender transition and they look butchered and beaten up. 1.00

00:36:48.000 And their eyes are dead.

00:36:49.000 Right.

00:36:50.000 Their eyes are dead or like even they have tattooed their eyes and now you can't even

00:36:53.000 see the color of them anymore.

00:36:54.000 It's very disturbing and it is part of this destruction of.

00:36:57.000 of what's beautiful. And I think to a certain extent, destroying what's beautiful is part

00:37:02.000 of the cultural destruction, because Western civilization has created some absolutely unbelievably

00:37:07.000 beautiful art, like from the cathedrals to the paintings to the books to, you know, beautiful

00:37:13.000 walkable towns, all of these things.

00:37:15.000 And now they're just being destroyed.

00:37:16.000 Wait, Libby, you're from New York? I mean, look at the buildings they used to build in

00:37:19.000 New York to the ones they build now.

00:37:21.000 Yeah. If you look at the old masonry structures.

00:37:24.000 And now you look, there's this building that sometimes comes up on my Instagram, which randomly I look at Instagram to like relax, which is, I think it's because it's like all architecture and art and stuff on my Instagram.

00:37:36.000 But there's this building that's right on Central Park South.

00:37:39.000 It looks like a needle, practically.

00:37:41.000 It just looks, it's this straight up sort of stick. 0.93

00:37:44.000 It's hideously ugly.

00:37:45.000 The views are spectacular.

00:37:47.000 The apartments are ridiculously, you know, expensive.

00:37:51.000 They're millions and millions of dollars.

00:37:52.000 But it's not a beautiful building.

00:37:54.000 No.

00:37:54.000 It looks like a scar.

00:37:56.000 And when you look at it from an aerial view or with the park in the background, it looks like a scar on the park.

00:38:01.000 It looks like a big ditch.

00:38:02.000 And it doesn't look like, you know, City Hall is this giant, beautiful masonry structure.

00:38:07.000 There's buildings in Brooklyn Heights.

00:38:09.000 I used to work in one of them that have these beautiful copper roofs, absolutely spectacular buildings.

00:38:15.000 And we don't build them anymore.

00:38:17.000 I think to a large degree, we no longer have the technical capability to do that kind of work.

00:38:25.000 We don't have the workmanship.

00:38:27.000 We don't have the trades that do that kind of work.

00:38:31.000 We have these big unions that do glass and steel and engineering.

00:38:36.000 And there's certainly some beautiful things you can do with that, but it's nothing compared to what we used to build and the way that we used to I want to jump to this story.

00:38:47.000 We got this.

00:38:47.000 This is CNBC bringing up Alan Lichtman's prediction that Harris will beat Donald Trump.

00:38:54.000 Now, this story came out September 5th, and since then, Nate Silver has had wildly different predictions.

00:39:00.000 And just recently, Alan Lichtman and Nate Silver got into it on X. This is very interesting because it looks like, I'm going to say this right at the beginning so we don't bury the lead.

00:39:08.000 Trump's going to win.

00:39:09.000 And we'll break this down and I'll explain why.

00:39:11.000 But Nate, Ellen Lichtman is the professor who has what he calls the keys to the White House.

00:39:15.000 He says that he's been right on every election except for Bush v. Gore going back to the 80s.

00:39:21.000 Nate Silver has a forecast model which says, based on what we're seeing today, here are your probabilities.

00:39:25.000 Nate Silver also weighs the bias of each of these polls. 0.75

00:39:28.000 Now, Nate Silver's calling out this professor, saying his keys are ridiculous.

00:39:33.000 Trump's favored to win by his own methodology, and Lichtman's just like, nah. 0.63

00:39:38.000 But I agree with Nate Silver.

00:39:39.000 Let me show you what they're saying, and then we'll get into why Trump's gonna win.

00:39:42.000 Lickman says Nate Silver has finally seen the light.

00:39:45.000 Weeks after I predicted a Harris victory, he has come down from a two-third probability of a Trump victory to a 58% probability of a Harris victory.

00:39:54.000 Nate Silver says the funny thing is, if you actually apply his keys correctly based on how he's applied them in the past, they predict a Trump victory.

00:40:02.000 More about this soon, lol.

00:40:05.000 Lickman says, Nate, you don't have the faintest idea about how to apply my keys.

00:40:08.000 You are neither a historian or a political scientist or have any academic credentials of any kind.

00:40:15.000 You got him there!

00:40:16.000 Nerdfight! 0.99

00:40:18.000 Everybody knows in debate when the guy says, I'm in Mensa, you know who's losing.

00:40:23.000 He says, remember you were wrong when you said the keys could early predict Obama's re-election.

00:40:30.000 And Silver responded, I've spent way too much time on this and have a lot of receipts from how you've applied your keys in the past.

00:40:35.000 At least seven of the keys, maybe eight, clearly favor Trump.

00:40:38.000 Sorry, brother.

00:40:39.000 That's what the key says.

00:40:40.000 The keys say, unless you're admitting they're totally arbitrary.

00:40:44.000 And he may as well.

00:40:45.000 You know, I look at this guy and I'm like, what does the CIA go to elect a man and say, hey, here's who's going to win.

00:40:50.000 You know, just say it.

00:40:52.000 Because when you look at the keys to the White House, which we've got right here, I'm going to go through them as quick as I can, because we do this periodically, and we're going to ask the panel about this, and you guys watching at home live, get your superchats in, and then we'll see what people think.

00:41:05.000 So he's got 13 criteria.

00:41:08.000 What do they say?

00:41:08.000 If more than six are false...

00:41:11.000 Let me see how they break this down.

00:41:12.000 Is it six?

00:41:14.000 Or is it eight?

00:41:15.000 I want to make sure I get the numbers right here.

00:41:18.000 They say the results are in.

00:41:19.000 He's saying Harris is going to win.

00:41:20.000 Lincoln revealed his decision on Thursday.

00:41:21.000 The Democrats hold the White House.

00:41:23.000 His forecast is based on the historical index model.

00:41:25.000 He developed it, analyzed the political landscape through the lens of 13 true or false statements.

00:41:29.000 If six or more of the statements are false, Trump will win.

00:41:32.000 All right, number one, party mandate.

00:41:34.000 After the midterm elections, the incumbent party holds more seats in the House of Representatives.

00:41:39.000 Okay, clearly, that's false.

00:41:40.000 The Republicans are winning.

00:41:41.000 So that's one for Trump.

00:41:43.000 Contest.

00:41:44.000 There is no serious contest for the incumbent party nomination.

00:41:47.000 He put true.

00:41:48.000 Which is false.

00:41:49.000 Which is false.

00:41:50.000 That is false.

00:41:52.000 Biden's gone.

00:41:53.000 Harris was put in, Dean Phillips, RFK Jr.

00:41:57.000 There were many people who were, like Marianne Williamson, but he said, no serious.

00:42:03.000 The only reason it wasn't serious is because the Democratic Party used their lawfare to destroy the candidates who were pushing back against Biden.

00:42:12.000 So that's two for Trump.

00:42:13.000 Hold on.

00:42:14.000 Let's take it at face value and he's saying it doesn't matter if they cheat or otherwise.

00:42:18.000 If there's no contest for the incumbent party nomination, that's it.

00:42:22.000 And so the argument I've heard is he applies this only to the convention.

00:42:25.000 Is the convention in disarray?

00:42:28.000 All right.

00:42:28.000 No, no, no.

00:42:28.000 That's fine.

00:42:29.000 That's fine.

00:42:29.000 I'm going to say I take that away from Trump.

00:42:31.000 It's true.

00:42:32.000 Okay.

00:42:33.000 Incumbency.

00:42:34.000 The incumbent party candidate is the sitting president.

00:42:36.000 False.

00:42:37.000 Yeah, it's Kamala Harris.

00:42:40.000 The next one is third party.

00:42:40.000 There's no significant third party campaign.

00:42:43.000 That is true.

00:42:44.000 Well, RFK's out.

00:42:46.000 Alright, so it's only two for Trump.

00:42:47.000 He needs four more.

00:42:48.000 Short-term economy.

00:42:48.000 The economy is not in a recession during the election campaign.

00:42:51.000 True.

00:42:52.000 Are we in a recession?

00:42:54.000 We've technically been in a recession for a while.

00:42:56.000 Chief Economist for Bloomberg, I think it was, said that based on these indicators, we use a conservative model of determining when we're in a recession, but based on where we're at now, this is a recession.

00:43:06.000 Yeah, they've changed the definition of the word recession.

00:43:08.000 It used to be two back-to-back quarters of minus 1.5.

00:43:11.000 Not to mention, we've got this from Postmillennial, Big Lots is shuttering 350 stores, and I know you guys I'm glad you're sitting down for this, because I'm worried about you when I tell you this, but Hooters shut down 40 locations.

00:43:22.000 Oh no!

00:43:22.000 Oh God.

00:43:23.000 I know, I know.

00:43:24.000 No! 0.97

00:43:25.000 When Hooters, now look, we can joke all day about Hooters, but they got wings and they got boobs. 1.00

00:43:30.000 And if you can't sell those, holy crap! 0.80

00:43:33.000 Okay, so I don't know how, his argument is the government has not asserted a recession is happening. 0.62

00:43:40.000 So there's a question there, and mine is, are you asking Is there a recession, or are you asking what the government is saying?

00:43:48.000 Right.

00:43:49.000 But he says the economy is not in a recession.

00:43:51.000 Okay, he did not put, the government says the economy is not in a recession.

00:43:54.000 I give that to Trump.

00:43:56.000 I think based on the metrics, based on the fact that you can go around asking everybody, the prices are really high, what do you guys think?

00:44:01.000 Yes.

00:44:01.000 Yeah, I mean, 100%.

00:44:02.000 So the Fed has acted, right, to try to throttle inflation for one, right?

00:44:07.000 That's why we have interest rate hikes all over the place, which has made the real estate market tight, which has then made everything else tight, because real estate is usually a leading indicator out there as it relates to the economy.

00:44:18.000 So yes, I mean, and not to mention we hit the inverted yield curve a few years back when this whole thing started kicking off with Biden.

00:44:26.000 So all the indicators have been there.

00:44:29.000 We've had two negative quarters in terms of, or not negative, but smaller quarters in terms of growth for GDP.

00:44:39.000 Which, yes, all those things indicate... And also, your rate of income growth has not exceeded the actual inflation rate, so in fact people are getting poorer in real terms, and I think that's what matters most.

00:44:51.000 Alright, so I think we agree.

00:44:54.000 The economy is not in a recession, but wages are down, prices are up, and people are struggling.

00:45:02.000 I think that favors Trump.

00:45:03.000 For sure.

00:45:04.000 If it doesn't, that'd be crazy.

00:45:06.000 But you know what?

00:45:07.000 Let's just, we'll put a pin in that and come back to it.

00:45:09.000 We'll put a pin in that one.

00:45:10.000 Long-term economy.

00:45:11.000 Real per capita economic growth during the term equals or exceeds mean growth during the two previous terms.

00:45:15.000 True.

00:45:17.000 Well, that's a very academic thing.

00:45:18.000 I'm going to ignore it.

00:45:20.000 We're going to come back to five.

00:45:22.000 Look, because Trump's still going to win.

00:45:24.000 Policy change.

00:45:25.000 The incumbent administration affects major changes in national policy.

00:45:28.000 True.

00:45:29.000 She's been the vice president for three and a half years.

00:45:32.000 She's the one who signed 33 tie-breaking votes in the Senate to make what is happening now happen.

00:45:37.000 How is she affecting major change when for the past three and a half years everything happening is her? 0.72

00:45:41.000 Nothing's going to change?

00:45:42.000 You even had Joe Biden recently saying that Kamala Harris had been involved in every decision he's made and that she was involved in everything foreign and domestic policy.

00:45:52.000 She said she was in the room as it related to Abby Gate in Afghanistan.

00:45:56.000 She was the last one in the room for that. 0.79

00:45:59.000 Oops.

00:45:59.000 So for this one, the incumbent administration affects major changes in national policy.

00:46:04.000 No, they don't.

00:46:05.000 Absolutely not. 0.98

00:46:06.000 That's ridiculous.

00:46:07.000 In fact, I think Gallup and a bunch of other polls show that people view Trump as the change candidate. 0.80

00:46:12.000 Yes.

00:46:12.000 And so that's three for Trump.

00:46:13.000 Next is social unrest.

00:46:15.000 There is no sustained social unrest during the term.

00:46:17.000 We have had ongoing anti-Israel protests on the campuses.

00:46:21.000 It's going on for over a year, and it just happened again the other day.

00:46:24.000 Well, it happened in protest of Netanyahu in New York.

00:46:28.000 And of course, you can't forget that that followed directly the BLM protests in 2020 that continued, you know, through the election, that there were a lot of There's been a lot of civil unrest for years, and it's not just civil unrest on the left.

00:46:42.000 We've seen civil unrest on the right.

00:46:44.000 As soon as the COVID lockdowns came in, there were a bunch of Michiganders who went to Lansing and said, give us our jobs back. 0.64

00:46:51.000 You can't destroy our businesses like this.

00:46:52.000 All right.

00:46:53.000 And so the argument I've heard is that the anti-Israel, pro-Palestine protests are not sustained social unrest.

00:46:59.000 They're localized protests.

00:47:00.000 So we don't count those.

00:47:01.000 I don't think that's accurate because they are funded internationally.

00:47:04.000 I know, I know.

00:47:04.000 What I'm saying is they're making arguments for why it does or does not count.

00:47:08.000 So you know what?

00:47:09.000 Let's come back to number eight and number five and just say right now there are three for Trump.

00:47:13.000 Number nine, scandal.

00:47:15.000 The incumbent administration is untainted by major scandal.

00:47:20.000 He put true.

00:47:24.000 Let me just start by saying, Abbey Gate was like four scandals in one.

00:47:29.000 The failure of the Afghanistan withdrawal is a massive failure, was a major scandal.

00:47:34.000 They gave up Bagram Air Force Base in the middle of the night, abandoned the Afghan security forces.

00:47:39.000 These guys were landing helicopters and running and fleeing.

00:47:42.000 The Taliban comes and seizes all the weapons.

00:47:44.000 Regular Afghani citizens were raiding and looting Bagram Air Force Base. 1.00

00:47:50.000 On top of all of this, 13 American servicemen and women were killed in a bombing, and that's still just one scandal, right?

00:48:00.000 And then, when they were bringing the bodies home, Joe Biden checks his watch, and the media lies about it.

00:48:06.000 The Abbeygate scandals, and then the scandal continues, in which the families invite Trump to Arlington Cemetery, he agrees to come, and then the media and the Democrats attack Donald Trump, and then all the families, one by one, start coming out and saying, we invited you, you didn't come, this is your fault.

00:48:25.000 And that's just a chain of events in numerous scandals stemming from the Afghan withdrawal scandal.

00:48:30.000 When the Afghan withdrawal botch happened, that's when Joe Biden's approval rating actually started going down.

00:48:37.000 So now...

00:48:38.000 What are we looking, is that four?

00:48:40.000 That's four for Trump we're counting?

00:48:42.000 Alright, here we go.

00:48:42.000 We got a couple more.

00:48:43.000 He only needs two more, and we're ignoring number eight and number five.

00:48:47.000 We are siding with Lichtman on this one.

00:48:49.000 And I'm still, guys, I'm going to show you proof that it looks like Trump is going to win.

00:48:54.000 I want to be very careful when I say this, but there's a better indicator.

00:48:57.000 Alright, the next one is incumbent charisma.

00:48:58.000 The incumbent party candidate is charismatic or a national hero.

00:49:02.000 False.

00:49:03.000 Not a chance.

00:49:03.000 Agreed.

00:49:04.000 If he said true to that, I would have walked out of the room.

00:49:07.000 I would have just been like, I'm out of here.

00:49:09.000 So that makes five for Trump, right?

00:49:10.000 I'm keeping a tally.

00:49:11.000 Yep.

00:49:11.000 Okay.

00:49:12.000 Now we still got a couple more and Trump needs only one more to win.

00:49:15.000 Challenge your charisma.

00:49:16.000 The challenging party candidate is not charismatic or a national hero.

00:49:21.000 What?

00:49:21.000 Donald Trump, reality TV celebrity, is not charismatic?

00:49:26.000 Look, he got shot and he stands up after getting shot going against every biological urge that we have in ourselves to say, hey, I'm okay.

00:49:38.000 You guys need to fight.

00:49:40.000 I'm gonna give this to Lichtman.

00:49:42.000 You know why?

00:49:43.000 Because I don't need it.

00:49:45.000 I don't need this to make his model say Trump will win.

00:49:48.000 If Trump's anything, he's charismatic though, my goodness.

00:49:52.000 Okay, but the argument they make is Trump is divisive and half the country hates his guts.

00:49:55.000 Yeah, that's true.

00:49:56.000 Okay, because he's not a Reagan, you know, where he's a movie star.

00:49:59.000 So fine, fine.

00:50:00.000 I'm gonna ignore number eight, number five for right now.

00:50:03.000 We're gonna ignore that, even though we think we have an argument for why it should be true.

00:50:06.000 No, no, you can have it, Lichtman.

00:50:08.000 Because we got five points for Trump and he needs only one more, and the next one is 12.

00:50:11.000 Foreign military failure. 0.66

00:50:13.000 The incumbent administration suffers no major failure in foreign or military affairs.

00:50:17.000 Abigail and the Afghanistan withdrawal.

00:50:20.000 Six.

00:50:20.000 Trump wins.

00:50:21.000 Next up, 13.

00:50:22.000 Foreign military success.

00:50:24.000 The incumbent administration achieves a major success in foreign or military affairs.

00:50:27.000 False.

00:50:28.000 That is 7 for Donald Trump.

00:50:30.000 And then if we want to be nice and go back and look at number 8 for social unrest, and we want to look at short-term economy, Trump's got 9.

00:50:37.000 9 of 13.

00:50:37.000 That predicts a Trump victory.

00:50:40.000 But let's just get rid of economy.

00:50:42.000 We can get rid of charisma.

00:50:44.000 We can get rid of social unrest.

00:50:46.000 Trump still wins.

00:50:47.000 And then I'll throw you the very last one. 0.94

00:50:49.000 Shout out to pro-American politics on Axios says, this is way more predictive than Lichtman's Keys model.

00:50:55.000 It's predicted every election accurately since 1952.

00:50:58.000 And what is this?

00:50:59.000 Party affiliation for every presidential election going back to 1948.

00:51:04.000 And the only incorrect assessment was 1948.

00:51:08.000 Every time party affiliation was favored, every time, There was an election.

00:51:17.000 The party that was favored won.

00:51:20.000 So in 1952, Republicans were favored, they won.

00:51:22.000 1956, Republicans were favored, they won.

00:51:25.000 1960, Democrats were favored, they won.

00:51:27.000 You can go all the way down the list.

00:51:28.000 Even 2020, Democrat party affiliation, Democrats won.

00:51:33.000 Right now, as of 2024, Republicans have a five-point party affiliation advantage.

00:51:38.000 Predicting, along with all of these going back to 1952, that Donald Trump will win.

00:51:43.000 That being said, you guys better go out and vote.

00:51:45.000 Yeah, for sure.

00:51:46.000 When you're saying party affiliation, is that the amount of people that are registered for this party or favorability towards the party?

00:51:52.000 So let me clarify.

00:51:53.000 It says, which political party do you think can do a better job of handling the problem you think is most important?

00:51:58.000 The Republican Party or the Democratic Party?

00:52:00.000 Okay.

00:52:00.000 The pushback they've given is, well, this is arbitrary.

00:52:02.000 Who cares?

00:52:03.000 Blah, blah, blah.

00:52:04.000 Gallup asks people, what is the most important problem in the country?

00:52:07.000 They then show the issues mentioned as the most important problem.

00:52:11.000 In 2020, COVID-19 was considered the most important problem, and when asked, majority of people favored the Democrats on the most important problem. 0.51

00:52:20.000 Lunatics.

00:52:23.000 Anyway, though, right now, economy and immigration are the top issues.

00:52:27.000 Yeah, of course that's gonna go to Trump.

00:52:29.000 Boom.

00:52:29.000 For sure.

00:52:30.000 Trump wins.

00:52:31.000 Yep.

00:52:31.000 Now go vote because the shadow campaign.

00:52:33.000 Yeah, and just everybody listening and watching, let me tell you one reason it is so important to vote.

00:52:42.000 Yeah, like a state like West Virginia or Wyoming or one of these other big Republican states.

00:52:46.000 Of course he's gonna win.

00:52:47.000 Yes, he's gonna win these states.

00:52:49.000 But the popular vote, we gotta bank popular votes because if he can get over the hump on the popular vote too, then it's gonna be harder for them to delegitimize the election just like we did in 2016.

00:53:04.000 You gotta bank votes.

00:53:06.000 If he won West Virginia by Almost 70% last time, let's get to 75 or whatever that number is.

00:53:12.000 Was it 86%?

00:53:13.000 Yeah, I think it was about 70.

00:53:15.000 70?

00:53:15.000 Yeah, it was about 70.

00:53:16.000 Maybe it was Wyoming that was 86.

00:53:17.000 Yeah, Wyoming was the only one ahead of us.

00:53:20.000 To go back to the litmus test that basically decides the outcomes of this predicted model, for me, my biggest concern is the escalatory trap that we're in with Russia. 0.99

00:53:31.000 So for people like me that are paying attention, the obvious answer to who is most likely to de-escalate it is Donald Trump.

00:53:39.000 So, I think that you go down the line of important questions like that for people like, what's your highest priority?

00:53:44.000 I think you're going to get, as they said, a five-point lead.

00:53:46.000 I'm surprised it's not higher, to be honest, for Donald Trump.

00:53:49.000 Oh, dude, this Israel stuff right now is freaking me out. 1.00

00:53:53.000 Me too.

00:53:53.000 And the Russia stuff, obviously.

00:53:56.000 You've got Trudeau being like, by all means, fire American artillery shells and long-range missiles into Russia.

00:54:00.000 And Putin's like… Nuclear war.

00:54:03.000 If American missiles land in sovereign Russian territory, that's war.

00:54:08.000 And they're just like, okay.

00:54:10.000 Biden said, they eventually said, apparently, that Ukraine was not to use the new long-range weapons that were sent to go deep into Russia, which I thought was interesting.

00:54:22.000 But he also said he would never give them F-16s, and he did. 1.00

00:54:26.000 Many promises.

00:54:27.000 Every single promise that was made was broken.

00:54:29.000 I mean, we already have troops on the ground in Ukraine.

00:54:32.000 Anyway, we have guys in Kiev who are… They were there before Russia invaded.

00:54:36.000 Yeah, now they're helping.

00:54:40.000 The Wall Street Journal had a bunch of this stuff.

00:54:42.000 But yeah, now they're helping the targeting systems and all of that kind of stuff.

00:54:47.000 Any other sign that would be classified as a co-belligerent?

00:54:51.000 There was that whistleblower, is it Tejera?

00:54:53.000 T-E-X-I-E-R. 1.00

00:54:54.000 Tejera. 0.90

00:54:55.000 Tejera. 0.90

00:54:56.000 Yeah, he whistleblew that.

00:54:57.000 In Massachusetts, that guy.

00:54:58.000 Yes, yes, and he said that there was boots on the ground in Ukraine and now he's like in jail.

00:55:03.000 I think the concern that I have is that the Biden-Harris administration is going to try and concoct more ways that the U.S.

00:55:11.000 is at war before the election, because a wartime administration usually wins.

00:55:17.000 Yes, you're right.

00:55:17.000 Well, and then you've also seen the Israeli strikes in Tehran, now in Lebanon.

00:55:23.000 It seems as if they're also fomenting a wider war right before the election.

00:55:27.000 Let me pull this up.

00:55:30.000 Let's get this story going.

00:55:33.000 We have this story from CNN.

00:55:35.000 Israel says it targeted Hezbollah leader in strikes on Lebanese capital.

00:55:39.000 So this is the breaking news.

00:55:41.000 It's been going on all day.

00:55:42.000 Explosions continue to rock southern Beirut.

00:55:45.000 And, uh, it's getting crazy out there.

00:55:47.000 Beirut authorities urge displaced people to seek shelter.

00:55:50.000 This is, uh, this was in response, I believe, to, uh, we have a video here.

00:55:54.000 Take a look at this.

00:55:54.000 I don't know when this is from, but this is, uh, reportedly a video of the Iron Dome intercepting Lebanese missiles.

00:56:02.000 Yo, this stuff is wild.

00:56:04.000 Look at this barrage.

00:56:05.000 I'm pretty sure, is this, this is the Iron Dome that's firing in the air right like that?

00:56:09.000 I think so.

00:56:10.000 Because I'm like, I don't think that's Lebanon firing right there in Tel Aviv or whatever.

00:56:13.000 Or Hezbollah.

00:56:14.000 Right.

00:56:18.000 Yeah, that's them knocking, that's them intercepting everything in mid-flight.

00:56:22.000 That's crazy, man. And so this stuff's been going on, what, like non-stop for decades basically, or what?

00:56:33.000 Well, it's escalated tremendously as of late.

00:56:37.000 They took out the lead diplomat for Hamas in that Tehran strike, and now, allegedly, the reports are that they took out the leader of Hezbollah within the past few hours.

00:56:52.000 No love lost for any of these people, but I'm just saying, from my vantage point, the fact that we are arming and funding one side very heavily, and they seem to be taking pretty extreme measures to go after their enemies, I'm very concerned that the U.S.

00:57:06.000 military will also get kind of sucked into this conflict.

00:57:09.000 You know, I see an impasse.

00:57:11.000 I see, you know, for me, I'm largely anti-intervention.

00:57:15.000 Actually, part of the dossier that they leaked of J.D.

00:57:17.000 Vance was him.

00:57:18.000 They said that when they did research on him, like, he's very anti-interventionist, and I'm like, I like this guy.

00:57:22.000 Me too.

00:57:23.000 That dossier was actually pretty good in my support for J.D.

00:57:25.000 Vance.

00:57:26.000 The problem I see now is we're in it.

00:57:29.000 That's it.

00:57:30.000 Like, we can sit here and daydream all night about what it would be like if we weren't funding what was going on, but We're in it.

00:57:36.000 That's it.

00:57:37.000 We are in it in terms of funding, but you know it's a big increase to have troops.

00:57:43.000 We sent troops to Gaza to build a beachhead.

00:57:46.000 I know.

00:57:46.000 And they were getting shot at.

00:57:48.000 And we also have troops going to Cyprus to help get people out of Lebanon.

00:57:51.000 Yeah.

00:57:51.000 Exactly.

00:57:52.000 And we've had U.S.

00:57:53.000 troops in Israel for a long time.

00:57:54.000 So as much as it's not the same as Ukraine in that regard, I feel like we're at an impasse.

00:57:59.000 Weren't there also?

00:58:00.000 It's begun.

00:58:01.000 I don't know.

00:58:02.000 Weren't there also U.S.

00:58:03.000 teams involved in helping the hostage rescue teams?

00:58:07.000 Yes, I believe that.

00:58:08.000 There was reports of that.

00:58:09.000 I mean, there were Americans being held.

00:58:12.000 They've since been, you know, murdered by the terrorists, but I think the Americans were helping with that. 0.99

00:58:17.000 And the challenge I see, basically what I'm saying is, I want to sit back and be like, why are we involved in this?

00:58:24.000 Why is this our issue?

00:58:26.000 And then it's like, we've got troops there and tens of billions of dollars.

00:58:31.000 But it's like the conflict with Iran and with these surrounding countries, the involvement we've had in Iraq and Afghanistan.

00:58:39.000 Like, we're entrenched.

00:58:39.000 I also find it confusing why we're not helping, like, there's three Americans who were imprisoned for allegedly attempting a coup in the Democratic Republic of Congo, and I don't know why we're not helping those guys.

00:58:52.000 It was like three guys- Well, if they tried to overthrow the government of Congo, should we help them?

00:58:58.000 It was an allegation, and there's not really evidence that that was their intention.

00:59:02.000 I'm saying you would think that they probably know.

00:59:06.000 They were college kids who went with their friend to the Congo to visit their dad.

00:59:11.000 On the subject of Israel, I'm curious, your thoughts?

00:59:13.000 Yeah.

00:59:14.000 One of the things to keep in mind here, and a long time ago I worked on the Hill, too, Pervy to, at one time, a little more intelligence than I am now, which I'll probably have access to again here soon.

00:59:28.000 But a lot of the guys and the bad guys that they're dealing with, Hezbollah, Hamas, whoever it is, Every time they say, death to Israel, what's the next word out of their mouth?

00:59:41.000 Death to America. 0.96

00:59:41.000 Death to America, right. 0.96

00:59:43.000 So they are kind of on the leading edge of a lot of this stuff.

00:59:47.000 Now, I don't think anybody wants U.S.

00:59:50.000 troops involved in some kinetic conflict in Israel or anywhere in the Middle East at this point.

00:59:59.000 But they're about the size of New Jersey and can be overrun very easily.

01:00:06.000 And I do think it is in our interest to have a country like Israel in existence in the Middle East. 0.98

01:00:14.000 I think it serves us well and our security.

01:00:17.000 They are a democracy.

01:00:19.000 They're Western-leaning.

01:00:22.000 They're a Western nation in my book.

01:00:25.000 And, you know, I think it is in our interest to stand with Israel.

01:00:31.000 I do think it is in our interest.

01:00:32.000 It is unique.

01:00:33.000 Is there a limiting principle to that claim at which you would say, OK, this is too far?

01:00:37.000 If they were to launch a nuke on Iran tomorrow, Yeah, I mean, that's, you know, obviously that hypothetical is always kind of out there.

01:00:46.000 Yeah, that's disavow.

01:00:47.000 Yeah.

01:00:48.000 I think it was Samson.

01:00:49.000 Yeah, see, that's, but that means there is a limiting principle.

01:00:52.000 For many people in Congress, there is no limiting principle.

01:00:54.000 Like with abortion. 1.00

01:00:56.000 No limiting.

01:00:56.000 Well, you know, look, my thing is, I hate it when I see these people.

01:01:03.000 They go on TV and they're like, we should not be funding Ukraine.

01:01:07.000 Ukraine is not our conflict.

01:01:08.000 And then they're like, what about Israel?

01:01:10.000 Oh, Israel. 0.98

01:01:11.000 I mean, Israel is different.

01:01:12.000 And I'm like, well, articulate it.

01:01:14.000 It's fine.

01:01:15.000 I think there's a difference between the two countries.

01:01:17.000 I think we've had a longstanding alliance and relationship with Israel.

01:01:20.000 Ukraine...

01:01:22.000 To be fair, the best argument I've heard for Ukraine is that we do have a treaty with them that stated if they were to be invaded, we would come to the defense.

01:01:28.000 It's not a treaty, it's just a memo from 1992.

01:01:30.000 I know.

01:01:30.000 It's just a memo.

01:01:32.000 But the best argument is the assurance... It's not ratified by Congress or anything.

01:01:35.000 Right, right, right.

01:01:36.000 And that's why I'm typically... Oh, then it's just a piece of paper.

01:01:39.000 But that's why I'm still pretty much, we shouldn't be involved, but that's the best argument I've heard, is that we said, you get rid of the nuclear weapons, we will defend you, and then we were like, later suckers.

01:01:46.000 Yeah, we promised super duper hard.

01:01:48.000 What was it like, the Budapest memo?

01:01:49.000 We said, yeah, give up your nukes and we'll protect you. 0.99

01:01:53.000 Which, by the way, is like the worst incentive ever, because we did that with the Libyans. 1.00

01:01:58.000 Like, yeah, hey, how'd that work out for Qaddafi?

01:02:04.000 We killed Gaddafi right when he was really boosting the African continent and bringing everybody together for manufacturing and all of these things. 0.98

01:02:12.000 Gold-backed currency, though.

01:02:13.000 Big mistake.

01:02:14.000 Yeah, he was going to do all of that stuff for Africa and lift the continent up.

01:02:19.000 My point is, I would appreciate if people could articulate an actual reason why they think Ukraine no funding, Israel yes funding, and then Taiwan's never even mentioned.

01:02:28.000 And I think you could make the argument, like I said, we've had a long-standing relationship with Israel to help them defend themselves from the onslaught they've been receiving from these neighboring nations.

01:02:37.000 And it's an ongoing act of conflict over, what are we doing, 70 some odd years?

01:02:41.000 And Ukraine is, the Soviet Union collapsed in the beginning of the 90s.

01:02:46.000 And we have no business?

01:02:48.000 What's going on?

01:02:48.000 Why are we there?

01:02:49.000 I don't know.

01:02:50.000 Yeah.

01:02:50.000 And I guess one of the frustrating parts though is, you know, and President Trump says it like, what do you want?

01:02:57.000 What are you going to do, President Trump?

01:02:58.000 I want peace.

01:02:59.000 I want the killing to stop in Ukraine.

01:03:00.000 That's what I want.

01:03:01.000 And it feels like That's not what they want, right?

01:03:04.000 Because as Bobby Kennedy's pointed out very clearly that there was a deal on the table, right?

01:03:09.000 To broker some type of peace deal.

01:03:11.000 Over a year and a half ago.

01:03:13.000 Right.

01:03:13.000 And that was completely scuttled.

01:03:16.000 And certainly, look, I'll take their point.

01:03:19.000 Do we want Russia on the border of Poland? 0.86

01:03:22.000 No, probably not.

01:03:24.000 But to that, the issue of Israel is quite a bit different because we're not talking about like territorial gains, we're talking about like extermination of a country that is aligned with us as it relates to anti-terrorism activities and things like that.

01:03:37.000 This is my question then, right?

01:03:38.000 So, you know, Trump comes in, you got Ukraine, Russia, and right now there could very easily be, you keep Crimea, you've got a naval base there and a massive industrial port.

01:03:49.000 The Donbass, we're not going to let that go. 0.99

01:03:51.000 The fighting stops.

01:03:52.000 And then there's some concessions.

01:03:53.000 Maybe Russia gets certain access via a land bridge to Crimea, but it ultimately ends the conflict.

01:03:59.000 That doesn't exist with Israel. 0.84

01:04:02.000 Trump comes in and says, I want the fighting to stop.

01:04:04.000 They're screaming to Israel. 0.86

01:04:05.000 Yeah. 0.96

01:04:06.000 Hamas has, they removed it, but in their charter was the line from the Hadith about how they are required by their religion to kill Jews.

01:04:15.000 The thing with Israel is, and it's a question I have for you guys, because I don't know that I have a good one. 1.00

01:04:21.000 What do we do?

01:04:22.000 Clint, this one's for you because I'm genuinely curious about the libertarian perspective on this.

01:04:27.000 What should the U.S.

01:04:28.000 do right now?

01:04:29.000 Let's say you woke up tomorrow and they said, Clint, you are 897,426 in line for the presidency and it's you, baby, somehow.

01:04:33.000 born on 26, in line for the presidency and it's you baby somehow, what would you do?

01:04:39.000 And I preface this...

01:04:40.000 So my first day on the job I have to bring peace to the Middle East?

01:04:44.000 That's right.

01:04:45.000 Well, no, no, no.

01:04:47.000 My point is just, if, you know, I look at Ukraine and the attitude they give Trump is, do you want Ukraine to win?

01:04:54.000 And I'm just like, I don't care.

01:04:56.000 My genuine response, if someone was like, do you want Russia to win or Ukraine to win?

01:05:00.000 I'd be like, I don't care.

01:05:01.000 Well, you heard what Trump said.

01:05:02.000 He wants less dead people.

01:05:03.000 And that's a good answer.

01:05:04.000 That's a good answer.

01:05:04.000 And I'd give a better answer than I don't care.

01:05:06.000 I'm just being a kind of a dick. 0.90

01:05:07.000 But with Israel, it's like, If we cut ties to Ukraine and tell them, you're on your own, it's like, well, like, good luck, buddy. 0.97

01:05:14.000 If we do that for Israel, Israel ceases to exist. 0.94

01:05:17.000 Like, they get bound into oblivion.

01:05:19.000 Well, maybe.

01:05:20.000 I mean, if it's true that, in fact, they have nuclear weapons, then they can probably defend themselves.

01:05:24.000 And then if we detach and say, you're on your own, and then Iran has blown up Hamas?

01:05:29.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:05:31.000 It's not easy.

01:05:31.000 It's funny because Ben Shapiro brought this up and I think it's a terrible, it's a real argument that's actually not a bad argument, but it's a terrible prospect.

01:05:39.000 He said that if we do not provide the support to Israel and they go Samson option and launch a nuke, like World War III, we don't want that. 0.71

01:05:46.000 So it's better that the U.S. 0.91

01:05:47.000 remains involved, keeps these boundaries drawn.

01:05:52.000 And I'm like, that's a terrible prospect. It is. And there's so much going on. It's

01:05:57.000 better than nuking somebody.

01:05:58.000 I mean, there's so many like regional conflicts that we're not super familiar with, like the

01:06:02.000 Sunni versus Shia, you know, all of this sort of interpersonal cultural stuff that we don't

01:06:08.000 really know about. Real quick, sorry guys, I'm just curious.

01:06:10.000 Clint, like if you could implement a policy, would it be Israel on your own or do we go in and

01:06:15.000 say we need peace?

01:06:16.000 Well, I think at minimum there needs to be a phase-out into them being their own autonomous nation that no longer takes aid from us.

01:06:21.000 But I apply this principle to every country all over the world.

01:06:24.000 I don't think that if you aren't able to exist without America being your benefactor in perpetuity, That's a problem that you need to figure out at some point, and it has to stop.

01:06:35.000 And that applies to Ukraine.

01:06:36.000 I mean, we are actively funding basically the entirety of Ukrainian governmentality.

01:06:43.000 And money's getting stolen.

01:06:44.000 Yeah, of course.

01:06:44.000 And it was corrupt, it maintains, or it continues to be corrupt.

01:06:48.000 So that needs to end.

01:06:49.000 I just apply the same principle across the board.

01:06:53.000 same thing with Taiwan. Like it's got to figure out its own security at

01:06:58.000 some point or it has to negotiate some sort of agreement with China where they

01:07:02.000 either bring them in or they allow them to have their full independence. So I

01:07:05.000 think that the the same rule applies. What I don't like is when—and I like you

01:07:10.000 a lot and I hope you end up in Congress—but I will say I don't like when

01:07:13.000 people argue that Israel has in fact benefited us in terms of foreign policy.

01:07:19.000 I'd like to hear that argument laid out more explicitly in that.

01:07:23.000 From my vantage point, after the Clean Break document in the mid-90s, all of the wars that we fought in the global war on terror seemed to have been to the benefit To the detriment of Israel and very much to the detriment of not just the American people, but most importantly, American soldiers.

01:07:39.000 That is where I find it to be most wrong.

01:07:42.000 I think that Israel is basically a large pro-West American weapons manufacturer.

01:07:50.000 Security, cyber security.

01:07:52.000 The liberal economic order comes into existence around the same time that, you know, Israel is basically, you've got, well, the liberal economic order came a little bit before.

01:08:02.000 But the Israel-Palestine stuff started erupting, I think, like 10 years later.

01:08:05.000 So you have the... After World War II, all these, you know, world leaders are like, we don't want World War III to happen.

01:08:11.000 If World War III happens with nuclear bombs now, it's game over, man.

01:08:15.000 So here's what we're gonna do.

01:08:17.000 Lo and behold, we now have the IMF, the International Monetary Fund, the World Bank, the Swift Payment System.

01:08:22.000 We've got the CIA.

01:08:24.000 The Council on Foreign Relations brags about the machine they've built.

01:08:26.000 And so when it comes to the Middle East, Iraq and Afghanistan, Gaddafi, what are the big talking points there?

01:08:33.000 Saddam Hussein wanted to do trading outside of the petrodollar, Gaddafi wanted to do trading outside of the petrodollar, Gaddafi wanted to create an African Union, he wanted to bring a bunch of countries together and strengthen, much like BRICS, and so we came, we saw, he died.

01:08:45.000 I see Israel as, what do they do? 0.99

01:08:46.000 They make weapons, they do cyber security, they're developing crazy missile guidance systems, things like that.

01:08:53.000 And for the U.S.

01:08:54.000 to have this hub of operations that allows them intelligence in a region they are trying to disrupt, and long have been, you know, the Mujahideen in Afghanistan, the United States, then you've got issues— I think the premise is flawed, though, because has that disruption throughout the Middle East been to our benefit, or has it created a sustained peace in the Middle East?

01:09:12.000 The answer is no on both accounts.

01:09:13.000 But you misunderstand.

01:09:14.000 The liberal economic order does not want peace.

01:09:16.000 Oh, okay.

01:09:17.000 Then you're right.

01:09:18.000 Your premise is correct.

01:09:19.000 Yes, yes.

01:09:19.000 My point is, we're looking at this like, why are we engaged in this?

01:09:22.000 It's leading to war, conflict.

01:09:24.000 U.S.

01:09:24.000 men and women are dying.

01:09:25.000 And the liberal economic order is not a conspiracy theory.

01:09:27.000 It's on the CFR's website.

01:09:28.000 They talk about this.

01:09:29.000 You can read the whole history of it.

01:09:31.000 Their attitude is petrodollar supremacy.

01:09:34.000 That means we're going to take over Iraq. 0.99

01:09:36.000 We're going to take over Afghanistan, which is a pincer strike on Iran to get Iran to fall in line. 0.98

01:09:41.000 Sanctions.

01:09:42.000 Iran has not been falling in line.

01:09:43.000 Why?

01:09:44.000 The conflict is real, Iran. 0.97

01:09:46.000 I largely view Israel as... It's funny because the people think that the U.S.

01:09:51.000 is the craziest thing to me.

01:09:53.000 They think that Israel controls the United States.

01:09:55.000 And I'm like, I think it's much the other way around.

01:09:57.000 I think the United States has vested interests in the operations in the Middle East and Eastern Europe.

01:10:04.000 There is a large conflict going on for decades over getting cheap energy into Europe to expand the European economic bloc because we're competing with the BRICS nations, which are now getting stronger and rising in power.

01:10:15.000 So I think The principal reason why the U.S.

01:10:18.000 is so hell-bent on Israel, yeah, we're trying to basically flatten the Middle East, and it's Iran, specifically. 0.96

01:10:26.000 Well, we give so much money to Middle Eastern countries.

01:10:30.000 You know, Ukraine, of course, is the top.

01:10:32.000 We give a lot of money to Israel.

01:10:33.000 And then there's Afghanistan, Yemen, Egypt, Jordan.

01:10:37.000 These are all places we give money to.

01:10:38.000 Syria.

01:10:39.000 It's like every place we go to and end up with.

01:10:43.000 Yeah, well we give Israel, we have like a deal to give them some certain amount of money every year that Obama signed.

01:10:48.000 But we've given... And we sure, yeah, I mean they are an ally, but all of these other places aren't even allies.

01:10:54.000 We've given Ukraine more money than Israel has received in five decades. 0.87

01:10:58.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:10:59.000 But it's so crazy that we're giving so much money to places that are not our allies, where you have people chanting, death to America, in the streets.

01:11:06.000 But do you know why?

01:11:07.000 In my opinion, is that the reason that they give these large sums of money to these nations actually goes into what Trump was doing in negotiating peace between Israel and those enemy nations.

01:11:19.000 Is that, yeah, you're right, they're not our allies.

01:11:21.000 We were buying their go along with Israel. 0.97

01:11:25.000 Like that's really what we were witnessing, and I don't support that.

01:11:28.000 The strategy of giving U.S. dollars to these countries is to get them to use the dollars.

01:11:33.000 That's true, too.

01:11:34.000 To strengthen confidence in the petrodollar.

01:11:37.000 To a certain extent.

01:11:38.000 We do need that.

01:11:39.000 If we're not isolationists, we need that.

01:11:40.000 At what cost, though?

01:11:42.000 And so remember, that money to Egypt, which is, if I remember correctly, just over a billion

01:11:46.000 dollars a year, that came in after Sadat cut the deal with the Israelis.

01:11:53.000 And back when we weren't giving any foreign aid to Israel, remember you had Yom Kippur, Seven Days War, I mean, and it was Nixon that came in and was like, They're either going to be gone, or we're going to jump in here, or we're going to do something.

01:12:07.000 But my point about Israel, in terms of our cooperation, is the intelligence sharing is helpful.

01:12:15.000 It is helpful to us.

01:12:17.000 And just from a cultural standpoint, I'm just going to say this, is I would much rather have these culturally very significant Christian places in the hands of the Israelis than Hezbollah or Hamas.

01:12:32.000 Why does it matter, do you think, in terms of like… I don't think Hamas is going to give me a visa to visit the Holy Sepulcher.

01:12:41.000 I understand.

01:12:42.000 Yeah, I think that's 100% right.

01:12:43.000 Well, I'm sure that's true.

01:12:44.000 I mean, the UN just recently put together a thing where they were saying to get rid of all the Jews in certain parts of Jerusalem.

01:12:50.000 I mean, this is the problem with creating a nation out of whole cloth, which is essentially what happened in 48.

01:12:56.000 And now, because of that, you have a people that have a very different cultural framework that are surrounded by people that don't like them.

01:13:03.000 And that's really the issue.

01:13:04.000 And it's going to be an issue until there's some sort of catastrophic resolution, is what it appears like.

01:13:09.000 The problem is that it seems as if we are edging ever closer to that catastrophic resolution as opposed to a peaceful one.

01:13:16.000 And you asked me to start off this whole segment, what would I do?

01:13:20.000 I think that ultimately the main reason that Israel is able to behave in the way that it has as of late—taking out, like, doing, you know, head-of-the-snake strikes in Tehran, I mean, in the capital of Iran, doing it against the leader of Hezbollah just a few hours ago—is that they know that we are the big guy on the block, and we are going to have their back. 0.57

01:13:40.000 And unless you actually signal that there is a limiting principle to our allyship, well then they have no reason to ever go to the negotiating table and treat their neighbors with any sort of respect either.

01:13:51.000 You're saying the U.S.

01:13:52.000 should just send a strong example to Iran and Lebanon right now and say, stop the war because we got Israel's back?

01:14:01.000 No, that's not what I'm saying.

01:14:04.000 But they do know that, though.

01:14:06.000 Don't forget the others.

01:14:07.000 We're not doing anything.

01:14:07.000 I mean, we give Israel funding, but now Lebanon's been firing rockets at Israel endlessly since October 7th, and long before that as well, and now Israel is firing back.

01:14:17.000 And I just want to make clear, it's Hezbollah, and Lebanon itself used to be a very peaceful country when it was run by Maronite Christians not that long ago.

01:14:30.000 What has happened is there's funding on the other side.

01:14:33.000 Who funds Hezbollah and Hamas?

01:14:35.000 It's the Iranians. 0.99

01:14:36.000 Who's funding the Houthis down there in Yemen right now, right on the border of Saudi Arabia?

01:14:41.000 It's the Iranians. 0.99

01:14:42.000 They're funding conflicts all over that region.

01:14:47.000 And to bring it full circle, President Trump was the only guy who was able to come in with the Abrams Accords and get Arab nations to recognize Israel and actually try to bring peace to the extent you can.

01:15:00.000 The Iranians aren't going to come to the fold of that. 0.99

01:15:02.000 Obviously, there's a Shia-Sunni split in between those Arab nations and this Persian nation that happens to be Shia over there in Iran.

01:15:10.000 But at least you could have some counterbalance there where it's not some tiny little nation of Israel on its own and have some type of alignment with the greater Arab world in that region, which I think actually would have made it a lot safer.

01:15:24.000 And then the Biden administration just basically did nothing and left the whole Saudi part of it on the table.

01:15:30.000 And he should have got a Nobel Peace Prize for it.

01:15:32.000 I mean, Obama got one just for being elected.

01:15:34.000 Right, that was crazy.

01:15:36.000 Yeah, I'm with you on the Abraham Accords. 0.99

01:15:38.000 I think Trump did a really good job with that, and for the first time there was, you know, a level of peace happening in that region.

01:15:48.000 I could be wrong about this, but doesn't Barack Obama hold the record for most children killed by a Nobel Peace Prize holder?

01:15:56.000 I think that has to be correct.

01:15:58.000 By a large margin.

01:16:01.000 By an infinite margin, actually.

01:16:02.000 Yeah.

01:16:02.000 I mean, I don't know.

01:16:03.000 I mean, who've won the— Nobel Peace Prize-droned U.S.

01:16:07.000 citizen.

01:16:09.000 That too.

01:16:11.000 I mean, maybe there's a list of Nobel Peace Prize laureates.

01:16:16.000 There might be someone in there and you're like, oh, that guy was a monster.

01:16:21.000 Going back a whole long time.

01:16:22.000 So he may not, but I think he probably does.

01:16:26.000 I think that has to be true, right?

01:16:28.000 Yo, he's, of course.

01:16:29.000 Oh, Yasser Arafat's got one.

01:16:31.000 I saw Yasser Arafat had one.

01:16:33.000 Does he really?

01:16:33.000 Yeah, here, scroll.

01:16:34.000 Yasser Arafat has a Nobel Peace Prize.

01:16:37.000 Okay.

01:16:38.000 That's really funny.

01:16:39.000 You think he's killed more children?

01:16:41.000 I don't think so.

01:16:43.000 Then Obama?

01:16:43.000 Not a chance.

01:16:44.000 Eight years of bombing the Middle East, that adds up. 0.98

01:16:47.000 I don't know, the first Intifada was pretty bad.

01:16:50.000 The UN got one? 0.95

01:16:51.000 That's silly. 0.68

01:16:52.000 Ah, Jimmy Carter. 0.94

01:16:53.000 Great.

01:16:53.000 Well, he's still building houses, right?

01:16:54.000 He's very old.

01:16:55.000 Yeah.

01:16:56.000 Where's Obama?

01:16:58.000 For his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples.

01:17:01.000 What is that?

01:17:04.000 He promised super duper hard that he would bring world peace and then he bombed.

01:17:08.000 It's such a great participation trophy.

01:17:11.000 Thank you for being here.

01:17:14.000 We don't really pay attention all that much.

01:17:16.000 Does anybody know who Narges Mohammadi was?

01:17:21.000 Never heard of her.

01:17:21.000 Yeah, I mean, she's fighting against the oppression of women in Iran, promoting human rights.

01:17:25.000 You know what's interesting about fighting against the oppression of women in Iran is you've had a lot of women who are Muslim who live in Oppressive countries who are forced to wear certain types of clothing, forced to do head coverings and all like that.

01:17:40.000 And they're always like, where are the American feminists? 1.00

01:17:42.000 Where are the Western feminists trying to help us overthrow our oppressors so that we can live in a free way? 1.00

01:17:50.000 And the American and Western feminists are like, oh, that's just your culture. 1.00

01:17:53.000 Your culture is to be oppressed.

01:17:55.000 So we're okay with that because you're minorities. 0.76

01:17:58.000 We've got to recognize diversity here.

01:17:59.000 Right.

01:18:00.000 You've got to recognize diversity, and some diverse cultures oppress their women, and that's just okay. 1.00

01:18:04.000 They don't want to come off as Islamophobic.

01:18:06.000 There's a hierarchy of what you're allowed to be.

01:18:08.000 Yes, exactly.

01:18:09.000 In the oppression Olympics, there is.

01:18:10.000 We must respect that culture.

01:18:12.000 And then also, they're also busy oppressing, actually, women in our own country through the trans movement. 0.94

01:18:17.000 So that's kind of tied up in that.

01:18:20.000 We do have a number.

01:18:21.000 It's the Bureau of Investigative Journalism estimated between 380 to 801 civilians, including 64 to 116 children, killed in drone strikes in Pakistan, Yemen, and Somalia between 2009 and 2016.

01:18:34.000 Which seems like a conservative estimate.

01:18:36.000 That seems conservative.

01:18:37.000 I think that beats George Bush.

01:18:40.000 In terms of drone strikes, doesn't it?

01:18:42.000 Well, I know he dropped more. I don't know if there was more. I think he was just doing

01:18:45.000 civilian casualties. Keep in mind, we keep in mind, statistics are manipulated heavily on this

01:18:50.000 because they say civilian casualties, like they say enemy combatants was basically any fighting

01:18:55.000 age male. Yep. Obama did that.

01:18:58.000 He changed it because they were getting beat down in the press by the civilian deaths and then they said, ah, it's a military-age male.

01:19:06.000 So it's literally a guy carrying a couple of water buckets to his home from the river.

01:19:09.000 But he could have been headed back to get his rifle, you don't know.

01:19:12.000 Not to mention Obama, he killed Abdulrahman Al-Awlaki and that one is like... 0.63

01:19:16.000 That's like cold-blooded murder.

01:19:17.000 Egregious.

01:19:18.000 I'm going to say this because my opinion on that is the Obama administration intentionally targeted a civilian restaurant to kill Abdulrahman Al-Awlaki to send a message to terrorists that the United States will murder your children if you stand against us.

01:19:30.000 That's what I believe.

01:19:31.000 Even the mafia doesn't do that.

01:19:33.000 They don't go after women and children.

01:19:34.000 Yeah, no.

01:19:35.000 And the wild thing, there wasn't anybody really on his side, political party-wise, saying a word.

01:19:40.000 They're just, okay.

01:19:41.000 Yeah, well, it's like it never even happened.

01:19:42.000 If you bring it up, they would probably accuse you of, you know, disinformation or something.

01:19:45.000 I mean, some of these migrants that are coming over the border, it's like, maybe if you can't beat them, join them. 0.99

01:19:50.000 And they're just like, well, we can't beat the United States, might as well move there.

01:19:53.000 Yeah, well, they're moving.

01:19:56.000 Yep.

01:19:56.000 Well, I think a lot of what's happening is... Mother Teresa got one.

01:20:00.000 There we go.

01:20:02.000 You know, in Venezuela, the reason why so many criminals are coming in, Trump is right. 1.00

01:20:05.000 They're people who are in prisons and the government's being like, we're going to let you go, but go to America.

01:20:11.000 And so they're clearing out their prisons, reducing crime by telling their criminals to go to the United States.

01:20:16.000 But I thought Trump was making that up, Tim.

01:20:19.000 Oh, definitely not.

01:20:20.000 Just to go back to the Ukraine example, contrasting that with the Israeli relationship, I view it very much the same way.

01:20:26.000 Trump's proposal mirrors mine when it comes to what I was talking about with Israel is that the only way you're going to get Zelensky to the negotiating table is when you When you actually tell him, there is a limit to the aid that you will receive.

01:20:37.000 There is a limit to the munitions you will receive.

01:20:39.000 Trump is saying that, and you look at Zelensky walking behind him today, and going up to the podium, he looks like a beaten dog.

01:20:44.000 He's like, yes, we will find peace.

01:20:47.000 You're correct, Mr. Trump.

01:20:48.000 I love how Trump's like, I have a very good relationship with President Putin.

01:20:53.000 Also with President Putin.

01:20:56.000 This is the thing, okay?

01:20:57.000 Ukraine and Russia's conflict is over primarily access to the Crimean Peninsula, and where Russia has their naval base at the home of their Black Sea fleet, a massive industrial port, and they had a bridge going from Russia into Crimea and it got bombed.

01:21:15.000 It's exactly why Russia wants the Donbass and the regions going into Kremlin.

01:21:18.000 He wants land control.

01:21:20.000 And a lot of people are like, he can build on the Black Sea anywhere, and it's like, he's not going to give up a multi-hundred million dollar industrial center and port where his navy currently is, and just say, here you go, NATO, you can have it.

01:21:32.000 That being said, those negotiations can happen.

01:21:35.000 Israel? 0.53

01:21:36.000 There is in the Hadith, which is, correct me if I'm wrong, is this the words of Muhammad, or what is that?

01:21:43.000 What is it?

01:21:44.000 Clerics wrote about it.

01:21:45.000 Clerics wrote about it, okay. 0.91

01:21:46.000 Where it literally says something to the effect of, the end will not come until all the Jews 1.00

01:21:51.000 are killed and the rocks and the trees will scream out, oh child of Allah, come there 1.00

01:21:56.000 is a Jew hiding behind me and kill him. 0.99

01:21:57.000 But there are Muslim and Arab neighbors that do not have constant warfare with Israel. 0.97

01:22:02.000 So I think that to argue that because of their religious doctrine you could never see peace.

01:22:08.000 I'm not saying that.

01:22:08.000 Well, that seems like what you're saying.

01:22:10.000 No, I'm saying that it's easy to negotiate land.

01:22:13.000 It's difficult to negotiate ideological conflict.

01:22:16.000 You're right.

01:22:17.000 Of course.

01:22:17.000 And so, right, you've got the West Bank and Jerusalem, you've got serious conflict there.

01:22:23.000 It's an almost intractable issue.

01:22:25.000 It really is.

01:22:26.000 And I mean, this is why we've seen decades and decades of, you know, very high level diplomacy trying to seek peace.

01:22:33.000 The issue is that I think that simultaneously there are financial interests, particularly the military industrial complex in America, that benefits tremendously by there being continued warfare.

01:22:42.000 So I don't think that— That is the purpose of it!

01:22:44.000 Yeah, well I agree, but my point is, I think that there's this argument that we cannot find peace.

01:22:50.000 My argument is that peace is very challenging, however, I think that there are financial imperatives domestically that make it basically impossible.

01:22:56.000 I'm going to tell you one thing that's really interesting, is that 20% of the population of Israel is Arab.

01:23:03.000 They're Arab-Israeli.

01:23:04.000 Very peaceful people that are living a very good existence there.

01:23:09.000 Can you imagine being a Jew living in Gaza?

01:23:13.000 Or any one of these other countries, they have challenges.

01:23:16.000 Yeah, it's just not possible.

01:23:17.000 It's just not possible.

01:23:18.000 There's nowhere else in the world they can go.

01:23:20.000 And look, it's been said many times, if Hamas and Hezbollah put down their arms tomorrow, there would be peace. 0.94

01:23:28.000 If the Israelis do it, there will be no more Jews. 1.00

01:23:31.000 Well, this is a question I ask of a lot of people.

01:23:35.000 And this is not, for me, this is not me saying, like, we should give Israel infinite money.

01:23:41.000 The question is, what would happen if Israel took down the barriers around the Gaza Strip and said, free movement for all peoples?

01:23:48.000 What would happen?

01:23:49.000 Well, they would get massacred.

01:23:50.000 Yeah, and they did that before.

01:23:52.000 That's why they built walls. 0.69

01:23:53.000 Oh, walls work! 0.71

01:23:54.000 Shockingly.

01:23:56.000 They built walls as it relates to the West Bank after the Intifada, right? 0.66

01:23:59.000 It's like, we're not going to do this anymore.

01:24:01.000 We have to have some control.

01:24:03.000 And after October 7th, I can't remember who I was talking to, but it was someone who was

01:24:06.000 very anti-Israel.

01:24:07.000 And they were saying that these people were going to where their ancestral homes were,

01:24:12.000 these little villages, and attacking them to take them back.

01:24:16.000 And it was their land, and the land was taken from them by Israel and all that. 0.98

01:24:20.000 And so I asked that question.

01:24:21.000 If they took down all the barriers around Gaza and said, you are now all free to move 0.98

01:24:24.000 about all of this land, what would happen?

01:24:28.000 Wouldn't they write of return?

01:24:30.000 Wouldn't they go back to the land they claim to be theirs? 1.00

01:24:33.000 And then when they find, I don't know, like a little old Jewish lady living there, how does that go down? 1.00

01:24:37.000 I think we saw what goes down on October 7th.

01:24:39.000 The issue is that you see the inverse of that when it comes to Gaza, when it comes to people that are in their properties also being purged because of settler activity from the Israelis.

01:24:50.000 Sorry, West Bank.

01:24:51.000 But actually, I think it has happened in Gaza as well.

01:24:53.000 They're out of Gaza now.

01:24:54.000 Yeah, they pulled out of Gaza 20 years ago.

01:24:56.000 I know, I know.

01:24:57.000 But I'm saying, historically.

01:24:58.000 But regardless, I'm just saying, this issue is occurring on both sides all the time.

01:25:03.000 That's why I don't want to be involved.

01:25:05.000 That's why I think America needs to get the F out of there.

01:25:07.000 And I think the same principle applies to Taiwan and to Ukraine.

01:25:12.000 I agree on the, we don't want to be involved, America first, secure our borders.

01:25:19.000 But if we were to say right now, at least, I think it's a fair assessment, if we were, like, right now, like, you know what, the U.S.

01:25:24.000 is done with this Israel thing.

01:25:26.000 You guys are fighting all the time, you've got land disputes between your own borders, West Bank, you haven't figured it out, so we're out.

01:25:33.000 What, in like a year, Israel is just flattened?

01:25:36.000 I don't think so.

01:25:37.000 I mean, Israel is a legit military, and I do believe they have nuclear weapons, so I find it very hard to believe that they would just be conquered.

01:25:46.000 But then, I mean— Their enemies don't have nukes.

01:25:50.000 They do.

01:25:50.000 If we're not funding— Don't you think Iran has nuclear weapons at this point?

01:25:54.000 Not at all.

01:25:54.000 No, no, no.

01:25:56.000 I don't think they do.

01:25:58.000 Lindsey Graham would be screaming it into my face 24-7 if they had nukes. 1.00

01:26:03.000 We have declared war the moment they had actionable intelligence that they could convince the public of.

01:26:09.000 I think it's reasonable to conclude, if we're not providing military aid to Israel, Iron Dome withers.

01:26:15.000 They've got David's Sling.

01:26:16.000 What do they have?

01:26:17.000 The names of the various defensive systems?

01:26:20.000 Look, I understand your concern, and a phase-out is fine.

01:26:25.000 I don't know that they can sustain their defense, which you make a really great point.

01:26:29.000 If you can't exist outside of the U.S., then you shouldn't.

01:26:32.000 Yeah.

01:26:33.000 I mean, not forever.

01:26:34.000 Right, right, right.

01:26:35.000 We have to pay them forever?

01:26:38.000 That's nuts.

01:26:38.000 And so that's why I said I feel like we're entrenched, because if we say we're done, then it is... Look, my fear is I don't want to see Israel wiped out.

01:26:48.000 Not at all.

01:26:49.000 I want them to defend themselves from the chaos.

01:26:52.000 But if they have a nuke, and if we're like, we're gonna phase this out, and they just say, okay.

01:26:58.000 And then when Hezbollah, Iran, and, you know, Hamas, and whoever else are attacking from all fronts, they just say, you know what?

01:27:05.000 Nuke Beirut. 0.64

01:27:07.000 Wipe it out.

01:27:07.000 Turn it to glass.

01:27:08.000 And then we get World War III.

01:27:09.000 You're right.

01:27:10.000 It's a risk.

01:27:11.000 It's absolutely a risk.

01:27:11.000 But there's another risk that Maintaining this current trajectory leads us towards continuing escalations, keeping in mind that Iran is also allied with Russia.

01:27:20.000 We're already in a very significant proxy war with Russia through Ukraine.

01:27:26.000 I feel like we're entrenched.

01:27:27.000 I don't know there's a good answer for anybody.

01:27:29.000 I think that the answer is to have better leadership that's actually interested in peace.

01:27:33.000 Donald Trump seems to be that guy.

01:27:35.000 So if we're going to have a chance at peace, we're going to need people that are interested in at least proposing it.

01:27:41.000 Yes.

01:27:41.000 You are right.

01:27:42.000 Donald Trump is the peacemaker, the dealmaker, and our best path forward.

01:27:49.000 He is the peace and prosperity president.

01:27:51.000 That's what he was.

01:27:52.000 So when did the Russians try to mess around in Ukraine in the last You know, decade. 0.94

01:27:58.000 When Obama was president, they went and took Crimea, and then when Biden comes back in— When Trump is president, they stop.

01:28:05.000 They stopped, right?

01:28:07.000 And you remember they were screaming, oh, when he moves the embassy to Jerusalem, it's going to be another intifada, things are going to go crazy.

01:28:12.000 But nothing happened.

01:28:14.000 Nothing happened.

01:28:15.000 Because when other nations in the world see strength, right, and you can negotiate peace from a point of strength, I mean, it says something. 0.96

01:28:23.000 When China said to Blinken, you are not negotiating from a position of strength, I'm like, holy crap. 0.93

01:28:29.000 What is this administration on, man? 0.60

01:28:32.000 So you send Blinken in and they're like, Biden, Kamala and you?

01:28:36.000 Good luck.

01:28:37.000 Trump walks in and they're going to be like, you're not negotiating from a position of strength.

01:28:40.000 And he goes, I'm going to nuke you right now.

01:28:42.000 I'm going to make a phone call. 0.94

01:28:43.000 Give me my phone.

01:28:43.000 Where's the phone?

01:28:44.000 And they're going to be like, wait, where's the football at?

01:28:46.000 Calm down, calm down.

01:28:47.000 You want to see strength?

01:28:49.000 Did you hear this great story?

01:28:51.000 I'm sure y'all have seen it, but where Trump's negotiating with the head of the Taliban and says, I don't want one hair on any American's head to be harmed.

01:29:02.000 We're going to leave Afghanistan. 0.98

01:29:04.000 But if you harm one hair on the head of any American service member and he pulls out a picture of the guy's house, And says, I'm gonna kill you. 1.00

01:29:14.000 And then walks out. 0.99

01:29:15.000 He didn't say that, apparently.

01:29:17.000 He said, do not harm a hair, and then he pulled out a picture of the guy's house, and the guy looked at it and said, why are you showing me a picture of my house?

01:29:22.000 And he said, you'll have to figure that one out.

01:29:24.000 That's right, that's right.

01:29:27.000 And I've already now given a lot of good air time to Donald Trump, and I agree that he is our best hope at avoiding a hot war with Russia.

01:29:35.000 Simultaneously, he is also signaling over the past week that he's basically buying into this narrative, and perhaps it's true.

01:29:41.000 I haven't seen any evidence of it.

01:29:42.000 We'll see.

01:29:43.000 But he is buying into the narrative that, in fact, it is the Iranians that are making multiple attempts on his life. 1.00

01:29:48.000 Gates backed him up on that.

01:29:51.000 He killed Soleimani.

01:29:52.000 It makes sense.

01:29:53.000 There's absolute incentive and imperative and motive.

01:29:55.000 I agree with all of that.

01:29:56.000 However, if you look at the two assailants that actually were responsible for the two first attacks, do they strike you as in the employ of Iran?

01:30:05.000 No, they do not.

01:30:05.000 They do not strike you as that.

01:30:07.000 I would like more information is all I'm saying.

01:30:08.000 We don't know anything.

01:30:10.000 Before he starts fist-pumping and going, we're gonna nuke Tehran, I want to actually know that's what's going on. 0.97

01:30:15.000 We don't know anything about the first guy.

01:30:16.000 Second guy was a pro-Ukraine crackpot. 1.00

01:30:18.000 Lunatic. 0.96

01:30:19.000 And he was also funneling passports to former Afghan soldiers to go and fight in the Foreign Legion of Ukraine.

01:30:26.000 Do you know what CIA looks like?

01:30:28.000 Look me in my eyes, CIA!

01:30:29.000 I see what you're doing!

01:30:31.000 I'm sorry, but that is a straight-up CIA operation all day.

01:30:35.000 This guy is tweeting out in Farsi and Arabic to try and recruit people.

01:30:39.000 This guy, I mean...

01:30:40.000 Come on.

01:30:41.000 You know intelligence.

01:30:42.000 You tell me. 0.99

01:30:42.000 Is he just a lunatic or what is this? 0.99

01:30:44.000 Could you imagine being one of these Afghans? 1.00

01:30:46.000 They hand you a passport and you're like, you wanna go fight another war?

01:30:48.000 It's like, God bless me.

01:30:49.000 You're like, I've been doing this.

01:30:51.000 I've been doing this for 40 years, man.

01:30:52.000 That's right.

01:30:53.000 You're good at it, you know?

01:30:54.000 It's like, you fought the Russians in the 80s.

01:30:56.000 You wanna do that again?

01:30:57.000 I think this is a really great segue to tell everybody about the Rage Against the War machine.

01:31:02.000 You nailed it!

01:31:03.000 Rally tomorrow.

01:31:04.000 It'll be on the lawn by the Washington Monument.

01:31:07.000 It goes from 12 to 5 tomorrow.

01:31:09.000 We still need a little bit more money for that.

01:31:11.000 If you want to donate, you go to RageAgainstWar.com slash donate and help us kind of reach our target.

01:31:17.000 There's that tomorrow.

01:31:18.000 And then on Sunday, there's Rescue the West rally, and that one's going to have some Major players are going to be there.

01:31:25.000 Both are going to have a lot of congressmen.

01:31:26.000 This one's going to have Russell Brand, Tulsi Gabbard, Jordan Peterson.

01:31:30.000 It's going to be completely— Brett Weinstein, James Lindsay.

01:31:33.000 I mean, the list is crazy.

01:31:34.000 Is it Rescue the Republic?

01:31:36.000 What did I say?

01:31:36.000 Rescue the—it was originally Rescue the West, and now they changed it to Rescue the Republic, yeah.

01:31:41.000 So my apologies for that.

01:31:42.000 But rallies are so important, especially this one, because the powers that be need to see how large the anti-war movement is.

01:31:48.000 I'm anti-war, which is why I have nothing to do with this conversation.

01:31:51.000 I'm pro-war now. 1.00

01:31:54.000 I am pro defense.

01:31:56.000 I'm non-intervention.

01:31:57.000 So when it comes to 1776, I'm 100% behind that.

01:32:01.000 Yeah, I'm a non-interventionist.

01:32:02.000 I'm not a pacifist.

01:32:03.000 Actually, I do think this is worth clarifying.

01:32:06.000 What does it mean to be pro or anti-war?

01:32:08.000 You know what I mean?

01:32:09.000 You guys say you're anti-war, but there are certainly situations for justified warfare?

01:32:13.000 Yes, yes.

01:32:14.000 So I'm constitutional.

01:32:16.000 So per the Constitution, Article 4, Section 4 of the Constitution says that the federal government's responsibility is to protect the states from invasion.

01:32:24.000 And that's really, you know, the war clause.

01:32:26.000 And then Congress has to declare war.

01:32:30.000 But question, is there any circumstance in which you think it is justified for Congress to declare war on a foreign nation, say, in the Middle East and send U.S.

01:32:37.000 troops there?

01:32:39.000 I think that there are.

01:32:41.000 If it could be proven that in fact they were responsible for bringing in shoulder fire missiles to try and take out Donald Trump, that can't go without a response.

01:32:51.000 Let me ask you this.

01:32:52.000 If there is definitive proof, let's say everyone always argues, don't trust the government.

01:32:56.000 I know.

01:32:56.000 Let's say.

01:32:57.000 And I'm not trusting them for the record.

01:32:59.000 Let's say Clint stumbles upon, you know, absolute proof, whatever it may be, that Iran is making attempts on Trump's life and bringing in missiles and assassination teams. 0.77

01:33:11.000 That's what Gates says is happening.

01:33:12.000 You would say definitive—like, if you knew definitively they were doing it, you'd say, we have to declare war?

01:33:17.000 I don't know if I would say declare war, but certainly I would say there has to be a consequence, if that means surgical strikes on the leadership of Iran, something to that effect. 0.81

01:33:24.000 But no, I'm being honest.

01:33:25.000 Because you can't allow for foreign nations to be taking out our leadership structure and do nothing. 0.99

01:33:31.000 Another question.

01:33:33.000 If Iran were to have actually succeeded in assassinating Donald Trump, do you think we should declare war on Iran?

01:33:39.000 I will just tell you right away, yes.

01:33:40.000 My opinion is yes.

01:33:41.000 I am anti-intervention, and just give me my opinion first because I don't want to make it seem like I'm setting you up for anything.

01:33:47.000 Sure.

01:33:48.000 I do not believe a nation can stand its treaties can be valued if they allow their leader to be killed by an adversary and they do nothing.

01:33:54.000 I think you're right.

01:33:55.000 Every single treaty we have after that, they're going to say, you can't even protect your own president.

01:33:58.000 What makes you think you're treaty? 1.00

01:33:59.000 That's garbage. 0.99

01:34:01.000 No, I understand the rationale and the logic is sound. 0.99

01:34:04.000 You know, principally, morally speaking, I still would find it to be a tragedy because so many innocent people would die as a consequence.

01:34:12.000 However, yes, probably.

01:34:14.000 I think it's a terrifying prospect because, you know, War, everybody loses.

01:34:23.000 But if Iran were to take Donald Trump's life, the damage to this nation would be insurmountable and irreparable. 0.99

01:34:31.000 It's not just about targeting our frontrunner, a nominee for the president.

01:34:38.000 It's going to unleash a whole bunch of chaos in the streets.

01:34:41.000 Militia groups are going to go nuts.

01:34:43.000 It would be insane.

01:34:44.000 That's an attack on our country.

01:34:48.000 That would qualify under Article 4, Section 4.

01:34:52.000 And this is what I'm deeply worried about, because after the first attempt on Trump's life, they immediately come out and say, oh, by the way, Iran's trying to kill Trump.

01:34:58.000 And if that bullet had been a millimeter...

01:35:00.000 You know, closer, we would be in a full-scale mass mobilization, absolute constitutional crisis.

01:35:08.000 Who would we get for our election?

01:35:10.000 I mean, this would be disastrous.

01:35:11.000 I think it would be J.D.

01:35:14.000 Vance, because we technically elected him.

01:35:17.000 No, this was before the RNC.

01:35:19.000 Nikki Haley would have been swapped. 1.00

01:35:24.000 And she would have said, what with Tehran?

01:35:26.000 Tehran is gone.

01:35:27.000 Tomorrow.

01:35:28.000 You're right, because it was before the convention.

01:35:29.000 It was two days before the convention.

01:35:33.000 So this last attempt, because we have more than one, so this last attempt would have been sent over.

01:35:39.000 J.D.

01:35:39.000 Vance would have been the guy.

01:35:40.000 And now they've got the media.

01:35:42.000 You know, Merrick Garland did that Iranian malign influence campaign press conference, and they're just, they're like, Iran is doing these things, man. 0.94

01:35:50.000 And I gotta tell you, I don't think Iran is not doing these things, but I do think there's selective prosecution, right?

01:35:56.000 I think China is probably doing similar things.

01:35:59.000 Iran has been doing these things. 0.99

01:36:01.000 Iran absolutely wants revenge on Trump for the killing of Soleimani, and they've publicly said as much.

01:36:07.000 And so to hear these stories, I'm kind of like, you know, I don't trust the DOJ.

01:36:11.000 But this aligns with their goals, and it probably is true, but it also probably means there's other things going on they're not telling you about.

01:36:17.000 Yeah, and why are they allowing, like, if they have intel that these teams are on the ground, and that's it?

01:36:24.000 You don't have them, like?

01:36:25.000 Well, I mean, maybe they do, we just don't know.

01:36:27.000 My concern, though, is that they're basically, like, the public is being made aware that this is happening.

01:36:32.000 Right.

01:36:33.000 And so there's two scary thoughts.

01:36:35.000 If it happens, people will be like, we know who did it, we know why it happened.

01:36:39.000 But more importantly, Already people are saying the fact that this guy, this Pakistani national with ties to Iran, was organizing the assassination of Trump, and we've had two attempts, the fact that Trump is already locked down, he said he's surrounded by more guards and cops than he's ever been surrounded by, it's already an act of war against us.

01:36:57.000 We have to make sure that we know who's responsible.

01:36:59.000 This is my whole issue with Trump's loud proclamations that, like, we will take out one of your major cities if this continues or if this is successful.

01:37:09.000 They have to know that that'll be a response.

01:37:11.000 And I'm like, Trump, you are giving the deep state, who is, as far as I'm concerned, equally probable to be responsible for one or both of those attacks that have already occurred on you.

01:37:22.000 You're now priming your base to then support a war against Iran when in fact it was your own government that took you out.

01:37:29.000 Just be very cautious with any declaratory statements.

01:37:33.000 I would say this, I entertain the possibility that there are official elements that want Trump to lose his life and have said as much as it pertains to the Butler PA incident because You know, look, the Feds announced they arrest this guy on July 12th, who was organizing the assassination on Donald Trump.

01:37:51.000 He said he was offering up to a million bucks.

01:37:53.000 A day later, Secret Service had been informed of this plan.

01:37:56.000 They said that they were going to increase their security.

01:37:58.000 A day later, Secret Service stands down.

01:38:00.000 And I don't mean that, I'm not being cute, I'm not being sarcastic, I'm not being hyperbolic.

01:38:04.000 They literally, in every instance, when they identified Crooks as a threat, they stood down.

01:38:09.000 When Trump was in the holding, that's what they do, they keep Trump in a special area to make sure they clear the threats, they said not, let him out anyway.

01:38:16.000 That's an effective stand-down.

01:38:17.000 When they were told by the local law enforcement four days in advance to put counter-snipers up on the rooftop, they stood down.

01:38:23.000 When the Secret Service saw, 27 minutes in advance, they saw this guy Crooks identified as a threat, stood down.

01:38:30.000 A law enforcement were running full speed towards the AGR building with their guns drawn.

01:38:34.000 They did nothing every single time they stood down.

01:38:38.000 That being said, we can talk about the Butler PA incident quite a bit.

01:38:43.000 You do have Iran publicly declaring their intention to do this.

01:38:46.000 And so, I think Iran is trying to go after Trump.

01:38:52.000 And to bring it a little bit full circle, there's nobody out there that has more intelligence on what's going on inside of Iran than Israel.

01:39:01.000 I'm sure you're right.

01:39:02.000 It's either Israel or the CIA. 0.59

01:39:04.000 Let's go to Super Chat!

01:39:05.000 Smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share this show with your friends.

01:39:08.000 Become a member at TimCast.com and make sure you go to that rally.

01:39:11.000 What's it called?

01:39:12.000 The anti-war rally tomorrow?

01:39:13.000 Resist or something?

01:39:14.000 In the Dam Wars is tomorrow and Rescue the Republic is Sunday.

01:39:20.000 And both are going to be incredible, so I really do hope you show up.

01:39:23.000 And the best thing is, after the anti-war rally, Clint, MGM National Harbor's got a big poker room just 20 minutes away.

01:39:29.000 Let's do it, brother.

01:39:33.000 Tim's got VIP passes to both events, so hopefully he'll be at one.

01:39:37.000 I was asked to speak at one, but I can't.

01:39:39.000 No, no, they don't want you to speak anymore.

01:39:40.000 They took it away.

01:39:42.000 Honestly, I was supposed to speak, he was supposed to speak, and they're like, you guys just come in, you know, do a podcast thing and just have fun, you know, so we're just...

01:39:51.000 So you don't have to speak?

01:39:51.000 It's not stressful at all anymore.

01:39:54.000 Yeah, I just wanted to hang out.

01:39:55.000 I think it was Angela asked if I wanted to do a couple minutes about anti-war stuff and I was like, I don't think I should.

01:40:02.000 I don't want to do that.

01:40:03.000 No, no, you just come, you have fun, you meet Jordan Peterson, you meet other cool people that you want to develop a relationship with.

01:40:08.000 And we'll get Jordan on the show because we've never had him on and he's brilliant.

01:40:11.000 He's a brilliant guy.

01:40:12.000 My dream when we were talking about doing poker with the boys was to have me, you, Alex Jones, and Jordan Peterson playing poker.

01:40:17.000 I'm suing West Virginia.

01:40:18.000 I heard, man.

01:40:19.000 I hope you prevail.

01:40:21.000 I'll talk about it a little bit.

01:40:22.000 Let's grab some Super Chats and then I'll come back.

01:40:23.000 By the way, it's Rage Against the War Machine, not End the Dem Wars.

01:40:26.000 I apologize.

01:40:29.000 All right, let's grab some.

01:40:30.000 We got Barely a Millennial saying, if people can vote now, they should be counting and showing, I'll say, a running tally now.

01:40:35.000 We know why Dems don't want to, but should it be the right push for this?

01:40:39.000 Yes.

01:40:40.000 They should count the mail-in votes right now.

01:40:42.000 Yeah.

01:40:42.000 Bring them in and count them.

01:40:44.000 Someone made a good point a while ago on the Super Chits.

01:40:46.000 They said that no numbers should be released at all until all mail votes are counted first.

01:40:52.000 So if they want to say mail-in votes are going to be counted later because it takes too long, okay, we're going to withhold all of our numbers until you count mail-in votes, then we're going to release them.

01:40:59.000 That way they can't do any games where they find votes.

01:41:03.000 All right, Jason Swank says, last night you spoke about Helene.

01:41:07.000 Tomorrow is the two-year anniversary of Ian, a Category 5 hurricane.

01:41:10.000 I was in the eye wall winds for nine hours that day.

01:41:14.000 Wow.

01:41:14.000 I've been in the eye of Ian many times.

01:41:17.000 That's kind of weird.

01:41:21.000 I just miss Ian, that's all.

01:41:22.000 I was in Sandy in New York, and it was crazy to hear the woooooo the whole time.

01:41:28.000 Yeah.

01:41:28.000 I was in the financial district, and all you heard was a woooooo.

01:41:33.000 The flight yesterday when we were coming out, oh, it was so insane.

01:41:36.000 The plane literally tilts like this, and we get off the plane afterwards.

01:41:40.000 By the way, I nearly had a heart attack while this was happening.

01:41:43.000 We get off the plane once we finally land, and I walk up to the pilot.

01:41:45.000 I'm like, come on, dude, be honest.

01:41:47.000 You were a little bit nervous with that one, right?

01:41:48.000 He's like, nah, bro, I got that.

01:41:52.000 So, I'm still in West Virginia, because poker is regulated by the Lottery Commission, but Pokemon, Yu-Gi-Oh, and Magic the Gathering are not, despite the law saying card games cannot be played, cannot be hosted, and you cannot make wagers against them to win cash or cash-valued prizes.

01:42:10.000 Crazy.

01:42:10.000 So the law literally says Pokemon, Magic, and Yu-Gi-Oh, and Lorkana, which is Disney's, illegal.

01:42:16.000 Yet all over West Virginia, children are playing card games for money.

01:42:21.000 They put money down, they sit down, they play a card game, and then they win cash.

01:42:25.000 And so when I called, at first I talked to A.G.

01:42:27.000 Morrissey, and he just, I don't want to put words in his mouth, but he said, interesting, well, like, if you're going to go a legislative route, if you're going to go a lawsuit, we'll see what happens when it happens.

01:42:38.000 Because one of the plans was first, let's just get legislation, where we can talk to a local rep and be like, let's just draw it up.

01:42:44.000 It's extremely difficult.

01:42:45.000 It really is hard, because you have to define... I think the end result is going to be there may be a period where poker becomes legal pending litigation, and then litigation changes the shape of how poker is in the state.

01:42:57.000 But I called the Lottery Commission, and I was like, I need to speak with somebody who's in charge, and I got this guy.

01:43:03.000 I said, I had a question that I'm trying to understand.

01:43:07.000 There are card shops all over the state.

01:43:10.000 Where children and adults will play card games for money.

01:43:14.000 They'll wager money, play a card game, and try and win money.

01:43:17.000 That, my understanding, is illegal under West Virginia law.

01:43:20.000 And I was told those are collectible card games.

01:43:23.000 That's legal.

01:43:24.000 And I said, a collectible card game is different from a card game.

01:43:26.000 Yes.

01:43:27.000 And I said, okay, so hold on.

01:43:28.000 Let's just play poker with collectible cards.

01:43:30.000 Exactly.

01:43:30.000 So we started making two versions of a game.

01:43:34.000 One is called Magical Wizard Crisis.

01:43:36.000 And there are four elements.

01:43:38.000 There's earth, wind, water, and fire.

01:43:40.000 And there's 13 power levels.

01:43:42.000 You combine them to make powerful spells.

01:43:45.000 Now here's the thing.

01:43:46.000 The wizards, they use their monastones as a means of casting their spells.

01:43:53.000 And the other wizard is like, oh no, his spell is too powerful.

01:43:56.000 He put in 100 monastones.

01:43:57.000 I also have to put in 100 monastones.

01:43:59.000 But if my spell wins, I get all the monastones.

01:44:02.000 And I'm like, is this what I have to do?

01:44:03.000 We have to recreate No Limit Hold'em.

01:44:05.000 All right, let's do it.

01:44:05.000 But the point is, the law does not say collectible card games is exempt.

01:44:09.000 It says, defined card games, they are illegal in this state.

01:44:12.000 So I asked him to clarify.

01:44:14.000 I said, there are children gambling, and that is allowed in this state?

01:44:20.000 He said, yes, sir.

01:44:21.000 And I said, okay.

01:44:22.000 An adult's game.

01:44:23.000 And so I called my... so we first tried to go on a legislative route, but it's very difficult

01:44:27.000 to do.

01:44:28.000 I was talking with some big poker pros about... they wanted to build... some of the biggest

01:44:33.000 pros in poker wanted to build a card club in Jefferson County.

01:44:37.000 It's so close to D.C., Pittsburgh, Philly, that you'd basically create, considering it's

01:44:42.000 easier to get legislation through in West Virginia, a massive hub and secondary locations

01:44:47.000 outside of where they normally play, which is big in Texas.

01:44:50.000 Because Maryland, D.C.

01:44:52.000 and Virginia, you are not getting anything done in those states.

01:44:55.000 You're going to need billions of dollars, West Virginia, but it was too difficult.

01:44:58.000 And the challenge was rake and, you know, are you allowed to take rake or time rake?

01:45:04.000 Is it going to have to be private memberships?

01:45:05.000 If we draft legislation, it's going to get bogged down, waste everybody's time.

01:45:09.000 And so then just recently I said, let's go lawsuit.

01:45:12.000 Because now what I'm going to say is that the state either has to ban Pokemon or deregulate poker.

01:45:20.000 Poker right now can only be played in one of five historical hotels, of which only, I think, four actually have poker rooms.

01:45:27.000 So you've got Charlestown Races, Mardi Gras, then you've got, I think, in the Western Panhandle, the Northwestern Panhandle, whatever you call it, and then there's the Greenbrier, but they got rid of it.

01:45:38.000 My understanding is there's not even a poker room there anymore.

01:45:41.000 I think they just got blackjack.

01:45:43.000 They've got table games, and it's a dress code, and it's very fancy.

01:45:47.000 I've wanted to go there for a long time.

01:45:48.000 Is it worth it?

01:45:49.000 Oh yeah, it's cool.

01:45:50.000 I hear it's fantastic.

01:45:50.000 Yeah, it's really cool.

01:45:51.000 If they go against you and they end up banning Pokemon, you're gonna have a bunch of 15-year-olds that hate your guts.

01:45:56.000 No, I don't think it's politically possible for the AG and the Lottery Commission to stand up and publicly announce they will be banning Pokemon.

01:46:08.000 I don't know anything about poker, but your wizard game made me start to understand it.

01:46:12.000 You've explained it to me like I'm a fictional character.

01:46:14.000 She finally gets no limits. 0.99

01:46:15.000 I finally get it!

01:46:17.000 So we do have a game that we're about to come out with called Debate Me.

01:46:22.000 And the way it works is everybody starts the game with 200 followers.

01:46:27.000 Everybody gets two cards from the same deck.

01:46:29.000 There's four factions, left, right, center, and establishment.

01:46:33.000 And the goal is to create the best debate team.

01:46:36.000 If you think you have a good starting debate team, you invite your followers to the debate.

01:46:42.000 And then we reveal three cards.

01:46:45.000 You then look at the two cards you have.

01:46:47.000 I got Jordan Peterson.

01:46:48.000 I got Alex Jones.

01:46:49.000 On the board is Antifa, the Proud Boys.

01:46:51.000 And then you're like, OK, my debate team is looking pretty good.

01:46:53.000 I'm going to invite more followers to the debate.

01:46:55.000 Then we flip over one more card.

01:46:57.000 Then everybody can invite more followers.

01:46:59.000 And then there's one more card.

01:47:01.000 And then it ends with whoever has the best debate team wins the debate and gets all the followers.

01:47:05.000 So this is, at its core, literally just Texas Hold'em.

01:47:08.000 However, what we're doing is Collectible cards.

01:47:11.000 So there's going to be a golden God Emperor Trump card.

01:47:14.000 He's basically the ace of the right, and it'll be foil, and he'll be held.

01:47:17.000 And we're allowed to do, anyone who's been a politician, we have the right to use their name and likeness.

01:47:21.000 For everybody else, we'll do gag names.

01:47:23.000 However, the game is actually meant to be a customizable expansion on what poker is, and it's meant to be played not necessarily for money, just with followers and for fun.

01:47:31.000 Yeah, that's cool.

01:47:32.000 But it could be.

01:47:33.000 And then, so we have Corinne Jean-Pierre.

01:47:36.000 She's a jack, but can only be played as a six. 0.52

01:47:42.000 Only played as a six.

01:47:43.000 Right, so, you know, in poker if you have a pair of sixes, if you have a six and a six, you have a pair of sixes.

01:47:48.000 With Corinne Jean-Pierre's card, if you have, she's labeled as a jack, equivalent of a jack, but can only be paired up with other six cards.

01:47:55.000 Which means you can get five of a kind if you have six.

01:47:57.000 The implication being she's not good at her job. 1.00

01:48:01.000 Yeah.

01:48:01.000 And then, like Trump, we're playing around this idea where if you get golden gun emperor

01:48:07.000 Trump, at any point in the game, you can reveal that you have the Trump, instantly granting

01:48:12.000 – it's going to be something like if after or before the second round of invites, you

01:48:20.000 reveal that card to all the players, it can act as though it's a pair of aces.

01:48:26.000 And so you lose the advantage of the information.

01:48:28.000 It may end the game immediately.

01:48:29.000 You might win the followers.

01:48:30.000 Some people might challenge you to it, but that means a single card is better than any

01:48:34.000 other card.

01:48:35.000 So we're playing around with abilities and things like that.

01:48:38.000 But we'll see what happens.

01:48:39.000 My understanding is that if we file this lawsuit, the attorney general's office may read it

01:48:46.000 say, we can't win in court, therefore we will not fight it.

01:48:53.000 And then basically what happens is social poker, which is playing with your friends,

01:48:58.000 becomes legal, and then it would require the legislative – the reps to come in and try

01:49:03.000 and solve any issues.

01:49:05.000 And I imagine the casinos are going to demand the issue gets solved immediately, but this

01:49:09.000 would – I don't say that can win because it would require the state to regulate Pokemon

01:49:13.000 under the Lottery Commission.

01:49:15.000 And you're going to have every 15-year-old in the state.

01:49:18.000 And Lorkana too.

01:49:19.000 Lorkana's Disney.

01:49:20.000 So now Disney, the weight of Disney coming into West Virginia and saying, if you shut us down, we're losing 3-7% of our sales, which go through West Virginia.

01:49:29.000 We're not going to stand for that.

01:49:30.000 We're going to lobby with this guy.

01:49:31.000 We don't care about poker being legal.

01:49:34.000 But you're going to put Lorcana and Pokemon, I mean, these are massive, massive multi-billion dollar brands that they're not going to allow to be regulated in that way.

01:49:43.000 You're going to pit the casinos up against Hasbro.

01:49:45.000 It'll be wild.

01:49:46.000 For real.

01:49:46.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:49:48.000 But I mean it's all, in all honesty, it's a legitimate problem.

01:49:51.000 No, I get it, yeah.

01:49:52.000 So I think what may happen is that the legislative branch may have to repeal the existing law, which says card games.

01:49:59.000 It could be simple that within a year they just say, any trading card game for any company is excluded.

01:50:04.000 The problem then becomes, okay, debate me is released and now we're playing poker in the middle of the street, but we got Alex Jones instead of an ace.

01:50:10.000 It's meaningless.

01:50:12.000 Right, you can't separate, you can't do it.

01:50:15.000 All right, we gotta grab a couple more superhits. 0.99

01:50:17.000 I've been ranting.

01:50:18.000 Putagirlon says, Happy 700 to Pop Culture Crisis.

01:50:22.000 Brett and Mary, let's go.

01:50:23.000 My friends, you really gotta subscribe to Pop Culture Crisis.

01:50:26.000 You can go to popculturecrisis.com.

01:50:29.000 It's in the TimCast family, of course.

01:50:32.000 Brett Dasovic and Mary Morgan, 700 episodes.

01:50:34.000 They got like 130-some thousand subscribers.

01:50:37.000 It's a big show now, but it's pop culture entertainment.

01:50:41.000 And you guys, if you're into that stuff, Subscribe and watch it.

01:50:44.000 If you're not into entertainment, music, pop culture, movies, video games, then you don't don't don't go there and subscribe just for the sake of it.

01:50:51.000 But the reason why I think PCC is important is, it's not that it's right-wing, it's just that it's not woke.

01:50:58.000 Right?

01:50:59.000 So, you wonder why nobody reviewed Am I Racist?

01:51:01.000 Because these institutions are all woke left.

01:51:04.000 And so Pop Culture Crisis is just regular people.

01:51:06.000 Okay?

01:51:07.000 I think Mary's very conservative, but that's fine.

01:51:09.000 The show's not about that.

01:51:10.000 You know, if you want to get an honest take on what's going on, it's Pop Culture Crisis.

01:51:14.000 And then shoutout to Tales from the Inverted World as well.

01:51:16.000 Alright, let's go!

01:51:18.000 Shake Theater says, Hey Tim, I work in IT supporting hospitals in the Northeast Tennessee.

01:51:22.000 We have two hospitals shut down and evacuated safely due to flooding.

01:51:26.000 Part of I-40 at MM3 has collapsed into the river.

01:51:29.000 I can't imagine Florida right now.

01:51:31.000 Wow.

01:51:31.000 Sorry to hear, man.

01:51:32.000 Hope everybody's okay.

01:51:33.000 That's crazy.

01:51:34.000 Yeah.

01:51:34.000 And we're going to get hit by the hurricane as well.

01:51:36.000 Yep.

01:51:37.000 Yes.

01:51:37.000 I'm sorry.

01:51:38.000 It followed me here.

01:51:40.000 My apologies.

01:51:41.000 It could have went west, and it decided to turn around and come straight up, and it's gonna slam into Appalachia.

01:51:48.000 Yeah, so I'm glad my family was out of the direct path, but I really, I mean, right in the big bend, got just obliterated.

01:51:58.000 There was actually a sheriff of that central county where it really got hit.

01:52:03.000 It said, listen, I know a lot of you are gonna Stick around and try to wait it out, but write your name and your birthday.

01:52:10.000 We need to be able to identify you.

01:52:11.000 Write it with a permanent marker on your arm because you're not getting out of this.

01:52:14.000 Yeah, the sheriffs are pretty base, but that was really, really, really over the top.

01:52:18.000 Domogod says, I kind of want Trump to pull off the presidential hat trick.

01:52:22.000 To be the first president to win, lose, win without the popular vote both times.

01:52:27.000 No other president has won the second term without the popular vote, even Grover Cleveland.

01:52:33.000 Trump is the first sitting president to gain votes and lose.

01:52:39.000 Yeah.

01:52:41.000 Normally what happens is... Yeah, I didn't realize that.

01:52:44.000 Yeah, it was a big deal.

01:52:44.000 I mean, so usually if a sitting president, you know, let's say he gets 100 votes in the first time.

01:52:51.000 For the first time ever, a president got more votes than their first run and lost.

01:52:55.000 And that was Trump.

01:52:55.000 Wow.

01:52:56.000 Yeah, because he went from like 64 to like 74.

01:52:59.000 He gained like 10 million new votes.

01:53:00.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:53:01.000 But Democrats got that procedural game. 0.98

01:53:04.000 You know what I mean?

01:53:05.000 They know how to get the mail-in ballots.

01:53:06.000 And Republicans... And if I remember correctly, it's the second most votes anybody's ever gotten.

01:53:13.000 It's the most votes a sitting president has ever gotten.

01:53:15.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:53:15.000 And it's the second most vote a candidate has ever gotten.

01:53:18.000 Wow.

01:53:18.000 And to win by... to gain such a large percentage of votes and still lose is wild.

01:53:27.000 To say the least.

01:53:27.000 Yeah, well, quick shout out, though, to Watley, who's the new chairman of the RNC.

01:53:31.000 This guy has lawyers on the ground like crazy.

01:53:35.000 Go look at his work in North Carolina when he put five lawyers in every county around the state of North Carolina.

01:53:42.000 Really, miraculously, the Republicans picked up seats when votes were getting casted correctly.

01:53:51.000 All right.

01:53:51.000 Zod says, when it comes to Springfield, you need to look into the properties that the migrants are occupying.

01:53:55.000 Mayor Rob Rue owns Littleton Properties of Springfield, LLC.

01:53:58.000 I'm sure there's a lot of wheels getting greased in a poor, poor town.

01:54:03.000 Indeed.

01:54:03.000 Yeah.

01:54:03.000 And someone else is mentioning Logantown again.

01:54:05.000 I guess they're having a scandal now.

01:54:06.000 It popped up in a super chat.

01:54:07.000 Yeah, that was yesterday.

01:54:09.000 I started looking into that and there have been concerns about migration in that town.

01:54:15.000 They're eating the dogs.

01:54:16.000 They're eating the cats.

01:54:18.000 Are they eating the dogs and the cats?

01:54:19.000 I don't know if they're eating the dogs and the cats, but I think that that speaks to the concerns about assimilation. 0.94

01:54:25.000 Eat the cat.

01:54:26.000 Eat the cat.

01:54:27.000 Yeah, have you heard the song?

01:54:29.000 Hold on a second.

01:54:30.000 Why did Seamus kill me?

01:54:31.000 Did you guys watch the Freedom Tunes?

01:54:34.000 No.

01:54:34.000 Seamus, this was absolutely arbitrary.

01:54:36.000 Just in the middle of the episode, I get shot.

01:54:40.000 What?

01:54:40.000 Are you his Kenny?

01:54:41.000 It's because you besmirched his good name with the whole spoon stealing thing.

01:54:47.000 So he made a cartoon, this is Freedom Tunes by the way, where it was if Kamala had survived an assassination attempt and like all the press are saying how brave she is and everything and then abruptly and randomly they're like we should ban Tim Pool from living and then just shows me and I'm sitting here and I go bang and I was like what?

01:55:04.000 Seamus?

01:55:06.000 Shame he's sitting there laughing like, ha ha ha.

01:55:08.000 Judas.

01:55:10.000 Judas.

01:55:12.000 All right, all right, all right.

01:55:13.000 Let's grab, uh, what do we got here?

01:55:15.000 Korowag says, the building Libby was talking about is night and day if you search for the interiors of McDonald's from the 90s and now side by side.

01:55:23.000 Well, I'll tell you one thing that's scary.

01:55:25.000 Somebody posted a meme and it said, when did we go from this to this?

01:55:28.000 And it was the McDonald's with a play place to a sterile McDonald's.

01:55:31.000 And I was like, when y'all stopped having kids.

01:55:33.000 Yep.

01:55:34.000 Exactly.

01:55:35.000 The market provides.

01:55:37.000 That's a good point.

01:55:39.000 Okay, this is a good one.

01:55:40.000 The Truth A says, the U.S.

01:55:42.000 went from a melting pot and became a chamber pot.

01:55:48.000 Nailed it.

01:55:48.000 That's beautiful.

01:55:49.000 Yeah, I know, but it sucks. 0.99

01:55:50.000 It does suck. 0.98

01:55:52.000 I don't want to do that. 0.91

01:55:53.000 No, don't want to be that.

01:55:55.000 No, we don't.

01:55:57.000 Nah.

01:55:59.000 All right, here we go.

01:56:00.000 Berkeley Bossard says, had to drive from Youngstown to Martinsburg today and then drove back.

01:56:04.000 Could have used a freshly brewed Timcast coffee.

01:56:06.000 Well, hopefully next time.

01:56:08.000 We're getting there.

01:56:09.000 We're getting there.

01:56:10.000 And we're going to be doing this big election party.

01:56:14.000 And so I don't know if you're going to be around.

01:56:15.000 I am coming by.

01:56:16.000 Oh, that's right.

01:56:17.000 Perfect, perfect.

01:56:18.000 After you win and you do your thing.

01:56:21.000 Where's it going to be?

01:56:22.000 In Martinsburg.

01:56:23.000 Oh, it's going to be there.

01:56:24.000 Great.

01:56:24.000 Yeah, it's members only.

01:56:25.000 So what we're doing is there's going to be tickets.

01:56:28.000 It's going to be for elite members first.

01:56:29.000 They're going to get a week to decide if they want to buy the tickets.

01:56:33.000 And I imagine it'll probably sell out then for elite members.

01:56:37.000 We, uh, because we're only doing 30 tickets because it's limited space and it's meant to be a private party, not a big public event.

01:56:42.000 We originally wanted to do a big public event.

01:56:44.000 The problem is no one's going to sit in a theater for nine hours or whatever.

01:56:47.000 Right.

01:56:48.000 We can't do it.

01:56:48.000 And because it's going to be all election day tracking the polls that we're going to be live from like 5 to 2 a.m.

01:56:54.000 rotating guests, hanging out, whoever feels like coming in.

01:56:57.000 So we did in the last election.

01:56:59.000 And, uh, it'll be fun.

01:57:00.000 I think we're doing, uh, I don't know if I should say this, I'm supposed to, but we're going to do a crossover with Crowder.

01:57:03.000 So I'll be, I'm going to do it.

01:57:05.000 Yeah, Crowder's going to, we're going to call in and join each other's shows and we're going to talk.

01:57:08.000 It's going to be fun.

01:57:09.000 And then we have a couple other shows.

01:57:11.000 It's going to be, it's going to be wild.

01:57:12.000 It's going to be a big party.

01:57:14.000 And we're going to have food, catering.

01:57:15.000 We will probably play Magic the Gathering.

01:57:17.000 I imagine that will be a big thing, because right next door is a Magic the Gathering collector's.

01:57:22.000 Oh yeah, yeah, that's right.

01:57:23.000 Mamba.

01:57:23.000 Yeah, those guys are really cool.

01:57:25.000 Mamba Collectibles, shout out.

01:57:26.000 Shameless plug, Luke Rudowski and myself, we've been doing crossovers during big events.

01:57:32.000 We'll have Roger Stone in studio and we will go live with Alex Jones and his team over at InfoWars and do basically a simulcast.

01:57:39.000 It's really neat.

01:57:39.000 But not next month.

01:57:41.000 No, no, no.

01:57:41.000 I'm not conflicting with yours.

01:57:42.000 No, no, no.

01:57:43.000 I'm saying you won't be able to next month.

01:57:46.000 Don't make it sad, man.

01:57:48.000 Because they're shutting Alex Jones.

01:57:50.000 I'm kidding, though.

01:57:50.000 You can never stop Alex Jones.

01:57:53.000 Some seven-year-old kid's going to pull out a cell phone and Alex is going to rant and he's going to go viral.

01:57:56.000 Alex is welcome to come and move in with me and we'll record and go live every night on camera.

01:58:01.000 All right.

01:58:02.000 Scrotty Johnson says, we are in a recession and it's going to get worse.

01:58:05.000 Stellantis is trying to move Dodge Durango production to Mexico, breaking UAW negotiations, causing a major strike.

01:58:12.000 And there's also rumors BYD bid is eyeing Chrysler to break in.

01:58:17.000 This is what you get with the Cameliers. 1.00

01:58:21.000 Cilantro Industrial Complex says, could you reach out to Snake Farm or have Boonies get Riley Moore a guest elected official board? 0.99

01:58:28.000 Happy Friday.

01:58:31.000 What are the restrictions on that?

01:58:33.000 If we made a board that was like a Riley Moore guest board but you didn't receive anything from it?

01:58:37.000 Oh yeah, you can do that.

01:58:38.000 But there's no benefit to having your name?

01:58:41.000 I mean, other than my dream since I've been 12, yes.

01:58:45.000 I guess it's the same thing with the cards.

01:58:47.000 You're a public figure, we're allowed to use your likeness.

01:58:50.000 Oh, we should totally do that then.

01:58:52.000 Yes!

01:58:53.000 Dream accomplished.

01:58:55.000 The member of Congress has a pro board he does not benefit from in any way and makes my company money.

01:59:02.000 I think that one would sell like hotcakes, to be honest.

01:59:04.000 Oh, it'd be awesome.

01:59:07.000 I'd have to take down pictures at my house.

01:59:09.000 My wife will hate it, and I'm just going to put boards up everywhere. 0.70

01:59:11.000 I'll buy most of them.

01:59:14.000 We'll see how it goes, but we're all pretty much expecting you to be hanging out with Massey every day.

01:59:19.000 He's squatting up with Thomas Massey, and then you're basically going to have all the libertarians buying your board just because, you know, we'll make a Massey board.

01:59:29.000 Maybe we should just do that, make a Thomas Massey board and it'll have the Klux capacitor on it and chickens. 0.96

01:59:34.000 One of the boards we're releasing soon is the 20th Amendment, which states chickens being necessary to the security of a free state.

01:59:41.000 The right of the people to keep, bear, and breed chickens shall not be infringed.

01:59:44.000 I like it.

01:59:44.000 And what's funny is a bunch of states are recognizing this now.

01:59:46.000 Arizona, I think, just passed a law saying you cannot ban chicken ownership.

01:59:50.000 That's right.

01:59:50.000 Nice.

01:59:51.000 So, in cities, they ban chickens.

01:59:53.000 Really?

01:59:54.000 Yeah.

01:59:54.000 Because they're like, oh, we don't want the animals.

01:59:57.000 Roosters are yelling.

01:59:58.000 And Arizona was like, you can't do this.

02:00:00.000 People have a right.

02:00:01.000 People have a right to grow food.

02:00:04.000 I would ask you Josie, I believe that there is a, you don't need a 20th amendment from this, you just need the Supreme Court to rule in the Third Amendment, which the Third Amendment's greater interpretation is the government has no right to restrict you on your property or to interfere with your rights.

02:00:20.000 I believe the right to grow and develop your own food is included in that.

02:00:25.000 I love it.

02:00:26.000 I like that extension.

02:00:27.000 I'm not going to argue that extension to that.

02:00:29.000 That would basically get rid of all zoning laws, too.

02:00:31.000 You know, the Third Amendment has never been ruled on by the Supreme Court, so I think that this will be a good opportunity to do that.

02:00:37.000 So the Third Amendment is no-quartering, but the broader argument that scholars have brought up is, like with free speech or with the Second Amendment, the country evolves.

02:00:47.000 And the true intention of the Third Amendment is that you are secure in your home from government interference.

02:00:52.000 Which should mean that, to a certain degree, there's greater freedoms within your own property to do what you need to do to live your life, pursue happiness, etc.

02:01:02.000 That would be pretty interesting, though they do regulate guns, so they'd still have zoning laws.

02:01:06.000 Alright everybody, smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with everyone you know.

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02:01:18.000 Riley, do you want to shout anything out?

02:01:19.000 Yeah, so I'm going to be in Pennsylvania tomorrow with Senator J.D.

02:01:23.000 Vance campaigning.

02:01:25.000 I'm going to come on the show.

02:01:26.000 Yeah, I will.

02:01:27.000 I want to see him tomorrow.

02:01:28.000 I'm going to see him tomorrow.

02:01:30.000 So we're going to be in Monroeville, right outside of Pittsburgh.

02:01:33.000 We're going to win Pennsylvania.

02:01:36.000 And you can follow me at Riley Moore WV on Twitter, Instagram, Facebook, all that stuff.

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02:01:51.000 Just being honest with you.

02:01:53.000 I also do, all one word, We Heart Change on Rumble.

02:01:57.000 Luke and I go live three nights a week over there, and I also do Tower Game, which you should never, ever watch.

02:02:02.000 And we got Josie, which everybody already follows on X, but you should follow her if you haven't.

02:02:06.000 I'm Josie, I'm TRHL official over on X, and you can go ahead and follow me over there.

02:02:12.000 Or you can become a member at TimCast.com and help support our work here.

02:02:15.000 Or you can watch my show, Spaces with Josie.

02:02:18.000 I have Dinesh D'Souza on with me next week.

02:02:20.000 And the following week, I have Ian Carroll, which is going to be a really fun show.

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02:02:34.000 We will see all of you tomorrow at Rage Against the War Machine in Washington, D.C.

02:02:38.000 Let's go.

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