Charlie Kirk is dead, Benny Johnson is in custody, and the FBI has no idea who fired the shots that killed Charlie. Is it Antifa, or is it something else? And what does it mean for the future of the show?
00:02:59.000And so we left the show that night thinking everything was-I don't know if normal is the right word because it's hard to describe anything in the past year or a couple years or even decade as normal, I guess.
00:03:13.000And the simple version of the story, which we'll get into in a little bit more detail, obviously later on, but a vehicle was slowly approaching the property when it got.
00:03:22.000I got to keep some of the details vague just for security reasons, but shot one shot was fired.
00:03:27.000It then picks up speed, and then once it lines up at the studio, two more shots are fired.
00:03:36.000It's based on the threats that we had already received, threats to shoot up the studio and to kill us.
00:03:42.000We're just operating under the presumption it's targeted.
00:03:47.000But all we really know is: be it an attempt at intimidation or actually just a weak, you know, I guess what do we call it, antifa, terrible aim attempts to kill us.
00:03:58.000We don't know who did it or, you know, or why.
00:04:03.000But the presumption is, again, we had received threats months ago, some of them were credible, threats to come and shoot up the studio.
00:04:12.000One thing that I've never talked about, but as of today, I have, is we routinely get people pulling up to the property in the middle of the night and just sitting there, just literally idling their cars in front of our property.
00:04:52.000And we also have this other story that interestingly, and I don't know if interesting is the right word, but Benny Johnson posted that a man had been arrested for stalking him, Laura Loomer, Matt Walsh, Katzard, threatening to kill Matt Walsh and his family.
00:05:07.000And oh boy, as we enter a political year, things are just getting crazy.
00:05:19.000And I believe what the most terrifying thing about the political environment that we are in is that Turning Point USA, Charlie Kirk's organization, lost its founder, its leader, its greatest advocate.
00:05:33.000And somehow, a section of our political population has turned Turning Point into the perpetrators of the crime they were victims of.
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00:09:46.000And I think you're probably right about astrology.
00:09:49.000You know, if radiation is refracting through our bodies and through planets and stuff, it could easily be imprinting on us and creating, you know, fractals of ways of behavior.
00:10:08.000Well, we're just going to start with the, you know, what happened over the weekend.
00:10:11.000And I talked about it a bit this morning.
00:10:13.000I'm interested to hear what the crew thinks.
00:10:15.000But, you know, back in October, I was in Phoenix.
00:10:18.000I went to Turning Point to do the show with the Turning Point crew and the Charlie Kirk show crew.
00:10:24.000We had received a threat that I don't know if we described at the time in detail because we often refrain from exposing some of the finer details because it will make your security worse.
00:10:35.000It will increase the threat and the risk.
00:10:38.000And the threat was to come and shoot the place.
00:10:47.000And we got in touch directly with some great people at the FBI who said that they were working on this and they were in touch with our crew.
00:10:54.000And they believed that it was credible because it fit a pattern of other shootings based on the information that was conveyed in it.
00:11:00.000And so I believe they're currently tracking that down.
00:11:03.000I believe it's an ⁇ I don't know what the deal is going on with it, but I think it's an open case maybe.
00:11:08.000And it's not the only one we've received.
00:11:10.000We've received a lot of veiled threats and general death threats.
00:11:16.000And then Saturday between midnight and 1 a.m., a vehicle slowly approaching the property opens fire.
00:11:24.000Then it drives past our driveway to where our studio is.
00:12:42.000I think based on the threats that we had received, I think, and escalated quite a bit in recent history in the past couple of weeks, that it was, my thoughts are intimidation.
00:12:53.000This is, it's like that old story where they said, you know, a guy hears a gunshot in his neighborhood and he runs out into his backyard and he sees an old man firing a gun to the ground and he's like, what are you doing?
00:13:04.000And he's like, keeping the property taxes down.
00:13:06.000So the idea is just the shot itself can disrupt an area.
00:13:11.000It can cause serious problems with, it can cause problems with our guests.
00:13:31.000It's not, I wouldn't call it impossible, but I'm trying to be, I'll try to be vague on security, but it's difficult to come here with weapons because we have a security perimeter.
00:15:14.000But at the end of the day, like the actual attacks, I mean, whether it be the attempts on Donald Trump's life, you know, what happened to Charlie Kirk, Steve Scalise a few years back, the shooting at the congressional baseball game, that was intended to target, you know, Republicans.
00:15:32.000Generally, the attacks that lately have actually resulted in maimings and loss of life, they've all been attacks against Republicans, against conservatives.
00:15:43.000And whether or not you think it was actually politically motivated target and was targeted, or if it was just people that knew that they don't like Tim Poole or the stuff that we do here, so they went to try to send a message.
00:15:56.000That doesn't matter, really, because at the end of the day, you know, the next one might actually be someone that's trying to get a person, you know, whether or not they're targeting Tim or just anyone here.
00:16:08.000You know, that's something that's a real tangible threat now.
00:16:12.000What's one of the first things you guys told me when I came here?
00:16:14.000No talk of political violence whatsoever.
00:16:18.000We need the leftists to start doing the same thing.
00:16:40.000What more could he have expected, I suppose?
00:16:42.000And it's something that even people in Congress, I think specifically when it comes to Charlie and the assassination of the assassination of Charlie Kirk, people in positions of power, they generally had the right, they sent the right message.
00:16:59.000They weren't notable Democrats that were saying, oh, this is good.
00:17:04.000But the rank and file were celebrating, first of all.
00:17:07.000And then if you look back to the summer of the summer of riots in 2020, there were plenty of people in Congress egging on the rioters, saying things like, we need to be out in the streets.
00:17:30.000There needs to be Democrats that are actually standing up and saying this is something that we disavow.
00:17:37.000And they need to do it more often because I think that the people on the ground, they hear a totally different message than the one that the major players are playing.
00:17:48.000I believe this is more of a symptom of the times than anything else.
00:17:52.000We live in an era of political assassinations.
00:17:54.000People feel as though they feel emboldened to take action into their own hands and they feel as though they're justified in taking that action.
00:18:03.000It isn't only shots on the President Trump's President Trump that we saw.
00:18:08.000In Japan, there was a very effective, I hate to use that word, political assassination of Shinzo Abe.
00:18:14.000I listened to Tim's show earlier today where he put it extremely succinct, but it was so morbid.
00:18:19.000It was an effective, the most effective political assassination I think that you of our generation of Charlie Kirk.
00:18:25.000Because what happened following the death of Charlie Kirk, the right is in complete disarray.
00:18:31.000And I think these people are emboldened by things like that.
00:18:34.000And Turning Point has become the perpetrator of the crime in which they were the victim.
00:18:39.000That is probably one of the most terrifying things out of all of this.
00:18:45.000Charlie Kirk built an organization that registered young people to vote, convinced young people to support a populist, pro-American nationalist, all these, you know, this big coalition.
00:19:47.000I think that the evidence we have seen thus far, Occam's razor, suggests Robinson is the likely culprit.
00:19:52.000We will see what happens in the trial when evidence is presented, but there's literally no other story.
00:19:58.000Just a bunch of fucking retards on the internet saying stupid shit.
00:20:02.000And what that does is the organization that helped get Donald Trump elected, which needs to persist.
00:20:09.000You're going to be a fan of it, but it certainly will help get individual congressional candidates elected and stop Democrats from launching new committees and putting more people in prison like Steve Bannon and Peter Navarro.
00:20:20.000Instead, it's being gutted by fucking psychopaths telling people to pull their donations.
00:20:25.000So when this organization burns to the ground or whatever the fuck happens to it, maybe they're fine.
00:20:31.000The organization that's rallying young people, causing a shift in the political leanings of a generation for the first time in history, is now in dire straits.
00:20:39.000Their leader and founder murdered and prominent pieces of human trash are trying to destroy it.
00:20:49.000When someone pulls in front of my property and fires on it several times, I'm sitting here looking at these vile pieces of shit and thinking to myself, for what purpose will I stick my neck out if this is what happens after Charlie Kirk is killed?
00:21:03.000Candace Owens is a fucking evil scumbag.
00:21:39.000I'm not going to take credit for that.
00:21:40.000But don't fucking DM me like I did something for you as you cower, as you fucking cower, scared that she'll put you on her thumbnail and claim you benefited from Charlie Kirk's assassination, which she's doing to me right fucking now.
00:21:53.000Yeah, that was the, I'm fucking done with these people.
00:21:57.000She has security just now on the level of you.
00:21:59.000Oh, yeah, the one fat guy you mentioned with no wall and no barrier in a suburban neighborhood with neighbors.
00:23:01.000The most effective political assassination in history.
00:23:03.000And thanks to the likes of the vile cunt, Candace Owens, she has turned Turning Point into the perpetrators of the crime that was against them.
00:23:10.000I don't get paid by any of these people.
00:23:12.000I'm not on good terms necessarily with Turning Point USA.
00:23:15.000They didn't invite me to their stupid event.
00:24:09.000And now she is, when you look at what's stopping us from winning in 2026 right now, what the biggest threat and the biggest fear we have is it is the disarray on the right.
00:24:20.000It is the fracturing of the coalition of all the different voices that came together and stopped the neoliberal bullshit liberal economic order machine that was that was coming out and telling everybody to chop their dicks off and that you had to get fucking injected or get locked in your house.
00:24:36.000And here we have a coalition resisting and rejecting that.
00:24:40.000Charlie Kirk dies and he's not perfect.
00:24:44.000Some people don't like that, but he certainly did organize a movement that brought people together that helped get Trump elected, helped Republicans win, and resisted what the Democratic Party had been doing and these psychopath institutions.
00:24:58.000Does everybody remember what that was like?
00:25:00.000When you were locked in your home and to wear two masks and you couldn't go anywhere unless they stuck you in the arm and the only resistance we had was these feckless loser Republicans who've got nothing done over the past year.
00:25:13.000And now Charlie Kirk was murdered and we say, holy crap, what do we do?
00:25:27.000Polly's your donations because they work for Israel.
00:25:30.000Even Nick Fuentes calling it out saying this is psychotic.
00:25:33.000So when we lose in the midterms and the Democrats bring back their panels and their subpoenas and they start arresting people like they had already done in the past four years and then we get whatever the equivalent of lockdowns is going to be and you get President Gavin Newsom.
00:25:47.000You can mark it all back to this moment when you had evil stand, scream and cowards refuse to do anything.
00:25:54.000With all due respect, always every single president loses in midterms.
00:27:35.000Like, I understand we all work for each other.
00:27:37.000Saying, I remember when I was younger, I wanted to, I was like, we're in Chicago, I skateboard, but there's nowhere to skate in the winter.
00:28:12.000And then she can say whatever she wants.
00:28:13.000She can do whatever wackaloon shows she wants.
00:28:15.000The fact that she put me on her thumbnail today, titled, Who Benefited from Charlie Kirk's Death, whether she's retarded, I don't think she is, or doing intentionally, it doesn't matter.
00:28:44.000Like when Ben Shapiro was on with Megan Kelly and Megan Kelly deferred and then said, all right, well, and demured, and then later came out and said, Candace never said that.
00:29:25.000Now, the problem is the one thing we talked about in October was, I think we're one of the few shows that actually invites the public to come.
00:29:32.000Not like literally anyone of the public, but we probably send out address, location, five times a day to various people who are booking on this show.
00:29:40.000Well, for that, we are more likely to get doxxed.
00:29:45.000I don't know how we continue doing a show like this.
00:29:49.000And that's the conversation we were having earlier.
00:29:51.000So it's possible the 19th is the last Tim Cast IRL.
00:29:54.000I'm not going to stop doing content, but the general thought is if I only do a solo VOD show like I used to before we did IRL, then there's no other guests.
00:31:46.000Back in the day when you were at this level of political influence, you could afford security.
00:31:52.000But the issue now is I would argue that maybe, I don't know what number I gave earlier today, but I was like, maybe what, 80% of the content we produce is not seen.
00:32:04.000on our platforms with our advertisers and our members.
00:32:08.000It's clipped and redistributed through massive networks, which all make money off the content we produce, and we can't get that money.
00:32:15.000So we have the influence that reaches 50 million people and half of them want to murder me, but we don't have the 10 million viewers per night that would afford us the ability to have a secure facility.
00:32:26.000And you look at Fox News and they have a big skyscraper in New York.
00:32:33.000You can't get anywhere near those studios and the glass is probably bulletproof.
00:32:37.000That's Fox News with carriage fees and big cable networks and I guess long-standing position in the market with billions of dollars and probably an endowment that generates money.
00:33:08.000Obviously, you're at a whole different level.
00:33:10.000But listen, if you get a penthouse in some place in Miami or they say Sunny Isles or someplace in Florida where you have real top-notch security, like the Porsche Tower in Sunny House, you cannot get in that building.
00:33:21.000It's literally the FBI guarding that building.
00:35:57.000And we will be doing the show down there as we attempt to figure out how we navigate this.
00:36:03.000And, you know, the mistake I think we all make, I think we make, is we should have done this three months ago.
00:36:12.000The moment they killed Charlie, we should have immediately had an emergency meeting and said, we're changing how we do everything.
00:36:19.000It should not have come down to a shooting to make us start freaking out and being like, okay, now we're on, now we're on, you know, highest, highest alert.
00:37:48.000No, the idea is the way I look at it, it's like I could be wrong.
00:37:54.000I don't track every single show, but while there's a lot of shows with guests, we do like the function of this show is an in-person sit-down every day.
00:38:04.000And, you know, a couple of years ago, it's really funny.
00:38:07.000One prominent leftist we invited on cased our property before knocking on the door.
00:38:53.000And so now the idea is any kind of public location that's a studio has to be in some kind of compound with guards and it can't just be us.
00:39:04.000Like the way this works is if there's like 15 companies in one corporate complex, like you were mentioning, like a skyscraper penthouse or something like that.
00:41:06.000There's no other place you can have penthouses with that level of security unless you're in Miami or you don't want to go to homosexual LA and stuff like that.
00:44:38.000So we don't know what that was, but this was before we officially moved into the new studio.
00:44:46.000I tweeted a photo of that bullet hole and said our guy fired a shot.
00:44:52.000So, you know, now people are taking only one of the tweets out of the series and then making it seem like we got shot then because they're manipulating you because people are stupid and they fall for it.
00:45:02.000You got to be used to people taking things out of context by now.
00:45:07.000So I got to say, the incentives, Tim, almost don't seem like they're there for you.
00:45:12.000I mean, I deeply appreciate the work that you do.
00:45:15.000And I think a lot of other people in the media space think you're an invaluable asset in the media space for people who actually seek truth and don't just pretend to.
00:45:22.000But like from your perspective, you are sacrificing so much.
00:45:25.000You have a wife and daughter, and I don't think it's breaking news to anybody that they're probably scared shitless as well.
00:45:30.000And, you know, there are serious threats to your life.
00:45:32.000This isn't the first time that you've been swatted or there's been an attack against you.
00:45:35.000And you have every position and right to just say, F it, I'm a multi-millionaire.
00:45:40.000I don't need to work another day in my life.
00:45:41.000I have a hundred vans and I have a hundred beaches that I could go drive by to.
00:45:45.000And Tim, you literally don't have to do this at all.
00:45:48.000And, you know, it kind of begs the question: what continues to motivate you?
00:46:39.000I think people understand that that is actually, Tim, the future of the Republican Party.
00:46:42.000People like Candace Owens, people like Tucker Carlson, who, again, make excuses for people like Candace Owens.
00:46:48.000And then I get, and I think people like Megan Kelly, too, who probably know better, but are going to shut their mouth because they're scared of, you know, getting the wrath of Candace Owens put on them.
00:50:13.000I find that to be a very, very plausible explanation for his views, as George Santos even pointed out, that Milo was slandering people involved with Turning Point, largely siding with Candace because he is personally, I guess, offended by what Charlie Kirk said about him.
00:51:56.000She immediately seeks to burn Turning Point down.
00:51:59.000I would argue that I don't play the games that she does, but following the assassination of Charlie Kirk, she had every reason to destroy Turning Point USA.
00:52:10.000And I don't think she's actually trying to investigate Charlie's death.
00:52:13.000I think she's saying, now's my opportunity that Charlie's gone to burn down TP USA.
00:52:56.000I'm making that argument because I'm mocking Candace Owens because that's how she makes her arguments only based off circumstantial evidence.
00:53:36.000So anyway, the question I asked was, he said, why do I think that she put me on her thumbnail today with a title of the billion dollar question, who stands to gain?
00:55:28.000If you're willing to call me out on what you think is bullshit, I don't give a shit, is what I think her message is.
00:55:33.000You know, these people, these people, they have tried to control me for so long and they just have never been able to do it.
00:55:40.000When we had Milo on Friday, it was funny because I pointed out like, there are a lot of people that have come to me and said, Tim, we will make you very rich.
00:55:58.000We can get you subject matter that will hit better and trend tracking.
00:56:02.000And then I said, I have this really funny story where I said, what if I want to do the, well, I don't want to conflate these stories and imply one person said something when they didn't say something.
00:57:06.000I sat down with the president of Fusion and he said, I've told a story a million times, but it's like, it was something to the effect of, I said something like, if there is a story that would offend our audience, are you saying we will not cover it?
00:57:25.000And he says, yeah, I think that's fair.
00:58:39.000They had a black and brown forum is what it's called, where they had presidential candidates come and they were going to have their top talent, you know, and interview these presidential candidates.
00:58:49.000I'm one of their senior correspondents, highly paid, well-respected.
00:58:55.000And they contracted a black man from New York instead of me.
00:58:58.000Now, I don't know who this guy is, but I mean, he's a great talent.
00:59:02.000I don't want to ran his parade or anything.
00:59:05.000However, they had their top talent and then one guy they contracted.
00:59:08.000So I went to the president and I was like, I was like, you know, I'm not trying to be a dick and like, you know, cause any issues or anything, but why did you guys bring in a contractor instead of having me?
00:59:18.000I'm one of your senior correspondents.
00:59:19.000And they said, well, you look too white.
00:59:21.000And then I was like, I'm second generation.
01:00:44.000I think that was them being like, come on, Tim, the money's good.
01:00:49.000And then, you know, I didn't do anything.
01:00:52.000So come August, they were just like, I got the phone call again, and they're like, we're calling to let you know that we will not be renewing your contract.
01:01:06.000No, I think the money was fall in line and it'll be good.
01:01:10.000And when they gave me the money and I still didn't, I was like, I'm not doing it.
01:01:14.000I'm not making the weird woke garbage.
01:01:16.000Like, one of the things I talked about at that company is when the Ghost in the Shell movie came out, they were having an editorial meeting and they were like, This is whitewashing.
01:01:25.000They're having Scarlett Johansson play a Japanese woman.
01:02:57.000And instead of saying, guys, we have a political violence problem and it's coming from the left, the conversation on the right, half of it at least, is Turning Point is the murderer.
01:03:10.000Their organization is the victim in this.
01:03:12.000So I like what's going on, and it screams op that so many people are coming out and claiming that Turning Point are the perpetrators of the crime against themselves.
01:03:20.000Well, if your goal was to destroy the right coalition, you'd take out Charlie Kirk and you'd destroy his organization.
01:03:40.000But if we're talking about building a future and winning midterm elections and winning presidential elections and making this country better and securing our border and fixing our grocery price problem, which Trump has not been good on, if we're going to do all of that, we need to have a we need we need to discuss what will the outcome be if this action is taken.
01:03:59.000And the assassination of Charlie Kirk has destroyed the right coalition.
01:04:04.000And the actions of Candace Owens, Ian Carroll, and others is now destroying what's left of what Charlie built.
01:04:09.000They're erasing what Charlie built that helped win Donald Trump elections.
01:04:20.000I can only look at the work her, people like Ian Carroll, these other smaller podcasters do and say the only outcome of their action will be to destroy Turning Point, which helps Donald Trump and the Republicans win.
01:04:31.000The outcome will then be Democrats winning the midterms.
01:04:41.000So when the Democrats win and they start locking up more lawyers and media personalities, and like Steve Bannon said, he'll be going to prison, then we can say, thank you, Candace Owens, for helping the Democrats win.
01:04:53.000And if you're a Democrat, you'll say yes.
01:04:55.000I mean, look at the, you know, I recommend you guys go to the comment section of the Young Turks.
01:04:59.000Their audience is, the audience is indistinguishable.
01:05:06.000And Marjorie Taylor Greene fans, though.
01:05:08.000I mean, we live in an era where the far left and the far right agree on one thing, their hate for Israel.
01:05:14.000I mean, that's the era we live in right now.
01:05:16.000Yeah, I don't want to make this, but many times a lot of Candace's beef seems like a proxy for Israel.
01:05:24.000And I can't help but feel like her and Ben Shapiro had a falling out, and politics is deeply, deeply personal for 90% of the people involved.
01:05:33.000And she's just going scorched earth as a result of that, as a result of the deal that fell through between them.
01:05:39.000There is that phenomena where you want to help someone, but they don't want your help, but you try and give it to them anyway, and it ends up hurting them.
01:05:45.000And I think that's what Candace is doing to Turning Point.
01:05:48.000I don't think she, it's impossible to say what's in her head, but it doesn't seem, her actions don't seem to show.
01:05:54.000Why don't you expand on how would you figure this could be helping or how would you think that this is helping Turning Point?
01:06:02.000Potentially, she thinks that there was more to the assassination and that she want because Turning Point can't do it, they can't say anything about it because they're kind of in it.
01:06:10.000Is that why she said people should pull their donations from Turning Point?
01:07:00.000Just like no one knows her intention about her.
01:07:03.000I think one of the most unfortunate things about this is that there's a ton of things, but one of the things that comes to mind is that, like, the part of this new media and independent media, the promise of the independent media was that we were going to cover stories unbiasedly and we were going to do it with the conviction.
01:07:18.000And then we're going to get to the bottom of stories that the mainstream media didn't want to do.
01:07:22.000But what I see more often than not coming out of independent media is just like unconfirmed rumor and hearsay.
01:07:30.000Like in recent history, it's a lot of just, I love, man, you go, I gotta, I gotta shout out Nick Fuentes of all people.
01:07:37.000He had such a great, it was like an eight-minute video went viral where he was talking about what's currently going on.
01:07:42.000And he was like, Ian Carroll, he's like, Ian Carroll tweeted at Charlie Kirk on September 7th, you work for the Jews that are destroying America.
01:07:55.000Four days later, he said he was sure that Israel killed Charlie Kirk.
01:08:00.000What happened in those four days, Ian?
01:08:07.000There's another line where he goes in regards to Candace Owens, where he was just saying about Charlie Kirk, like the most pro-Israel guy, right, Candace Owens?
01:11:54.000We'll pull up like the darkest liberal economic order, BRICS, Alliance, geopolitical nightmare scenarios and have pretty intelligent conversations about it generally.
01:12:02.000And it does bring people up, but it doesn't discount what you're saying about least common denominator slop.
01:12:08.000So this is where we announce that going forward after this year, we're bringing the soundboard back.
01:12:13.000We're going to play more clips of Eric Swallwell farting and the how dare you because even though it's like 10 years old at this point, it's still funny.
01:12:20.000Yeah, it's going to be more reminiscent of like the early morning drive time.
01:14:28.000And I'm just like, man, that poor guy.
01:14:30.000Could you imagine like your wife is like, I'm going to die, so I'm going to leave you to go begin with me like that's the worst thing I've ever heard.
01:14:35.000And by the way, your dying wish to get fucked by the state of society right now where a woman who has a few months left to live doesn't want to spend it with her husband, doesn't want to spend it with her family.
01:15:57.000This comedian, I forget his name, so forgive me for not giving you credit, but it's a really great joke.
01:15:59.000And he said that he had some buddies that he hadn't seen in a long time.
01:16:03.000They were in town, and they were going to go hang out, play around a golf.
01:16:06.000And he comes, I guess he was saying, like, yeah, you know, like, you know, Jim got divorced or something, and we haven't seen him in a long time.
01:16:14.000He comes back, and his wife was like, so how was it?
01:16:52.000The interesting thing is, like, when I was growing up, there was pretty much no real big female voices because there was no internet back then.
01:16:59.000At least at this point, there was only radio.
01:17:02.000And the reason women are so big now and they weren't on a radio is because they're using their looks.
01:17:07.000When it came to radio, they couldn't use their looks to exploit anything.
01:17:11.000So if you want to eliminate women off the internet when it comes to their influence, all you got to do is eliminate filters.
01:17:55.000And I'm curious your thoughts on not just to say like, hey, everything that's going on we're talking about, but just like where we're going.
01:18:01.000I just feel compelled to say, rejoice in the Lord always.
01:18:37.000I think personally, and again, I'm not trying to offend anyone, but I think anyone who thinks they have a relationship with God has an extremely huge ego.
01:18:46.000I think we're all specs of Sanda, the real prime creator.
01:18:49.000And the only time he's going to deal with us is when we pass on to the next lifetime, then he judges us.
01:19:23.000Brother, for 2,000 years, people thought Jesus was coming back and he still isn't there.
01:19:27.000So, what does that make all those people who died waiting for him?
01:19:29.000I will say, Behold, I have given you authority to tread on serpents and scorpions and over all the power of the enemy, and nothing shall hurt you.
01:19:38.000Was there a date given for when that was going to happen?
01:19:41.000I mean, they keep saying he's coming back.
01:19:43.000So, I mean, like, we've had billions of people.
01:19:45.000I thought that wasn't until like the red heifer thing happened.
01:19:47.000I think it's the internet that's going to make it happen, and it's going to be the Christ-likeness to what Jesus is, the people embodying Christ.
01:19:53.000I think it's going to be Project Bluebeam.
01:19:56.000There's going to be a critical mass of people that embody Christ-like behavior, and then it's going to pulse out, and all these people are going to start acting like it.
01:20:03.000I thought that there were only a few people or a small group of people that were going to be chosen and saved.
01:20:11.000I think the story says there's one guy is going to appear, but I think it's when there's a critical mass of humans.
01:23:16.000When was the last time there was deflation?
01:23:17.000Because deflation, yeah, I mean, deflation can lead to a deflationary spiral where nobody spends because the value of their dollar keeps going up.
01:23:27.000Yeah, I understand what deflation is, and I'm telling people that I think the property markets are going to go down.
01:23:33.000The housing market's going to go down next year.
01:23:35.000And I do expect the big crash for the stock market to be 2000.
01:24:54.000And I look at numerology and astrology, the cheat coast.
01:24:57.000I actually look at numerology as God code.
01:25:00.000I believe that is the system that the Prime Creator gave us to be able to see somewhat into the future, be able to make good decisions, know when bad years are coming, know when good years are coming.
01:25:13.000Because the name of the game is really timing.
01:31:34.000So if you start looking at this stuff from a pattern recognition standpoint, you'll see certain consistencies there.
01:31:41.000I think if you look for certain trends that you can find the ones that you want to find with the examples that you want to find, given the rich history that we have on this planet, well, the thing about it is when you look at history, it will tell you if it's I'm not making this stuff up.
01:31:57.000I'm just looking at pattern recognition.
01:31:59.000I think if people want to find a pattern, they'll find a pattern.
01:32:46.000Rihanna and Adele exploded into pig, ox, tiger.
01:32:49.000Dragon year was it was too early for a dragon year, and in 2012, they were already famous.
01:32:54.000Of the monkeys, you've got Selena Gomez, Miley Cyrus, Demi Lovato, and Cardi B all became famous in pig and rooster years.
01:32:59.000And then among rat years, you have Scarlett Johansen, Katie Perry, Mark Zuckerberg, LeBron James, and their breakthroughs were in sheep to tiger years.
01:34:10.000America's founded 1776, the year of the monkey.
01:34:15.000People who are tigers, they usually have a lot of issues with getting banned or, you know, being one of those guys who are on government watch list and things like that.
01:34:26.000So let's go through four of the most banned people in the internet and you tell me if you agree.
01:34:31.000Alex Jones, Andrew Tate, Nick Fuentes, Sneeko.
01:34:38.000I would say, well, he's the smallest name there, but those all are tigers and they all got banned in a monkey nation.
01:34:44.000What I'm basically trying to tell you is this stuff works if you look at it.
01:34:58.000I kind of subscribe to the magnetic universe theory.
01:35:03.000A lot of scientists talk about Thunderbolts Project and that we are connected through some sort of force.
01:35:09.000Weather planets and the position of the planet when the radiation is passing through it that causes a refraction through our planet and our bodies as our babies are coming out of the womb, no longer protected by the radiation protection of the mother's stomach, and they're exposed to this radiation for the first time, that it might have something to do with the numbers that we've derived from the position of things.
01:38:03.000So, what we have there is someone who is one of the top guys who was ever in tech field, was using numerology because he went to India, he learned it, and then he incorporated Apple and it became the richest cash-rich company in the world.
01:38:18.000And by the way, Steve Cook's another 28 and he took over his job.
01:38:21.000So, what I'm basically trying to tell you is this might sound like nonsense to you, just like the Bible and the Quran sounds like nonsense to me and a lot of people, but you have to understand, I am looking at this from a logical standpoint.
01:38:32.000When you see something that keeps coming up over and over and over, at some point it has to stop being a coincidence.
01:38:38.000But if I make like a prediction, are you able to look at that prediction and then say, oh, that's false because of this, and then come up with another way to change that specific thing?
01:38:46.000You have to be able to be able to falsify someone using the system incorrectly, correct?
01:42:06.000I mean, let's bring 100 random people, 50, whatever you want.
01:42:09.000I'll be blindfolded, and I would just give them a reading based off their birthday.
01:42:12.000They say whatever I need a reading, like, what do you ask them?
01:42:15.000I'm not going to ask them anything except their birthday, and then it's going to go into their life, and they'll tell me if I'm right or wrong.
01:43:02.000I think you've just been describing the person you've seen in front of you during the day.
01:43:04.000Well, you could think that, but you could put a blindfold in front of me and I'd say the same goddamn thing without seeing you without ever talking to you.
01:44:46.000You gotta kick out that big ag, that big agriculture garbage.
01:44:49.000They got feed lot, mystery meat, chemicals and hormones and I have you guys heard this they glue meat together now gross fake steaks where they use an enzyme to stick a bunch of pieces of meat so it looks like a filleter disgusting.
01:45:05.000So you got to go to Backyardbutchers.com, you got to get your.
01:45:09.000Look at this, this steakhouse box man, I want to get me a ribeye now, new York strip, Just, you know, I want each and every one, each and every one.
01:47:19.000And then I guess the question is, what's is the conversation literally just this with her in person?
01:47:26.000I mean, I think you find out when you get in the room together, but I do know this.
01:47:31.000It'll probably be one of the most viral podcasts of 2025.
01:47:34.000Not that you care, but no, I just think it's crazy that, you know, the one clip she posted that was a fake clip was Elad saying, you said something like, I think she respects your show and she'll comment on it.
01:47:45.000I was like, no, like, she's, her show's always been bigger than mine.
01:47:54.000I mean, I'll have a conversation with anybody.
01:47:55.000I just, I think that she is a sophist and a manipulator, and she's doing a true crime drama show.
01:48:01.000So it's just like, I can't say no to that, but I kind of roll my eyes like, oh, you know, more drama, more true crime, more, more nonsense.
01:48:11.000At the end of the day, the people decided that you're one of the top guys in the field and she is too.
01:48:14.000So maybe it'll be good training to handle like an eight-year-old daughter.
01:48:18.000You just learn to gently have a conversation with a female that you've got some agitation with, and then, you know, you'll help your kids with that when they freak out when they're eight and they drop their fork on the ground and you'll be like, I know how to talk to you.
01:48:29.000I like how her own lawyers work in a federal building and none of her audience questioned it.
01:49:39.000You don't sound half as ridiculous as he is.
01:49:40.000Well, but here's the thing: like, I'm not a Christian, and we've had tons of debates with Christians, and there's no reason for me to debate Christianity, which we've done 1,700 times.
01:49:48.000Oh, I did never had a numerologist on.
01:50:34.000I'm surprised you don't use Kabbalah instead of the Chinese stuff.
01:50:38.000Chinese stuff seems a little bit gematria.
01:50:40.000I mean, it's all the same letterology.
01:50:42.000No, but I mean, I guess the difference for religion is like, for example, there's the Ten Commandments, and you're supposed to do that to abide by God's laws.
01:50:49.000And they're real-life applications for those commandments as opposed to one is the father.
01:51:46.000The point that I well, let me finish and I'll go ahead and I'll get there.
01:51:49.000If you were raised there and it was said it's okay and it's actually good to sacrifice people, you would think that it's good to sacrifice people.
01:51:56.000No, you are a product of the society that you've grown up in.
01:52:00.000I'm a product of the society where in 2004, Muslims were being demonized and I married one.
01:52:06.000I don't give a damn what society thinks.
01:52:10.000And there were plenty of people that were saying that we should not demonize Muslims in 2004.
01:52:14.000So it's not like you were the only guy that was saying that many.
01:52:18.000But the idea that human beings create their own morality when their moral structure is entirely similar to Christianity or in some cases, Judaism.
01:53:41.000Yeah, we're talking about the first week back after the holiday is going to be in Florida as we reassess how to handle the security issue because, you know, I'll just give a little bit more details, but I'm talking obviously with a Rumble crew, and we're like, how do we make this work?
01:53:55.000Because it's not just me who's getting threats or, you know, shots fired at our studio.
01:53:59.000Most conservatives just don't ever talk about this stuff because you're constantly told it'll make things worse.
01:54:05.000And so there's been a lot going on behind the scenes.
01:54:09.000There are prominent personalities privately talking about retiring early, quitting.
01:54:44.000It's one thing to be watching these shows and being like, man, things are getting crazy.
01:54:49.000But for the people that are all in the line of fire privately behind the scenes, they're talking about getting out of the business straight up.
01:55:03.000Like a lot of these personalities are doing solo shows.
01:55:06.000We don't do a solo show, so we have people coming and going all the time.
01:55:10.000So we can't do it the way we're doing it now because it's just gotten so crazy.
01:55:14.000So the conversation we're having is we need to have, yeah, office building.
01:55:19.000I think a pet house is better because then you're on top of the building.
01:55:23.000Whereas the office building itself can be targeted, the top of the building is much harder to target depending on the height of the building.
01:55:28.000I don't know about $10 million, though, but it's worth it.
01:55:32.000Well, maybe if someone else buys it and we use it, I don't know.
01:55:54.000I hope this doesn't come across as the wrong way, but like, do you have any thought process about how these people are trying to terrorize you and are effective in doing it?
01:56:05.000The question is that the terror isn't even the most relevant thing.
01:56:08.000The question is, what is the purpose of what we do?
01:56:12.000What is the outcome and where will we end up?
01:56:14.000And I'm looking at right-wing grifters shilling for big soda and snap benefits, praising India and other foreign countries for money, promoting foreign gambling sites.
01:56:26.000Then you've got the likes of Candace and her crack pottery.
01:56:29.000And I'm just sitting here being like, it's one thing when there's a coalition leading a charge saying we will make this place better for the children to come.
01:56:37.000It's another thing when it's a bunch of people hiding knives behind their backs, ready to just stab each other.
01:56:41.000And I'm just like, I'm not sticking my neck out for y'all.
01:56:44.000And I don't want to say that literally every single person on the right or disaffected liberals or moderates or whatever are backstabbing disloyal mutineers or anything like that.
01:56:53.000But way too many are exposing themselves as solely being interested in being famous and making money.
01:57:00.000And it's like, bro, go play video games.
01:57:07.000For the time being, when you look at these prominent personalities, and I love this, how Nick's pointing out that Ian Carroll said, Nick, we're all here.
01:58:34.000And we're having that meeting when we go down to Florida.
01:58:37.000And we're going to be doing the show there for the week to figure out how do we do a show in a way where it alleviates these security issues.
01:58:48.000The challenging thing is, someone did have a chat where they were like, and what happens when you leave the building?
01:58:54.000But some of these buildings have secure loading docks where the vehicle pulls in the back, there's guards, you get in the car, and then the vehicle leaves.
01:59:02.000So people still might know where your building is, but they can't shoot up to the top of the building and they can't get into the building where the car pulls in to pick you up.
02:00:27.000And the only reason we can say that is because people watched it affect the show.
02:00:31.000But when other security issues have happened, we've largely just not talked about it.
02:00:35.000Crowder said that he wished he did because maybe Charlie would have taken security a lot more seriously had Crowder been saying what was going on, the attempts to murder him.
02:00:44.000And, you know, maybe people would have thought they would have taken it more seriously.
02:00:50.000Right now, because the left cries about every single thing that happens to them, the general perception that is delivered to the American people is that the right are a bunch of Nazis that are terrorizing and killing the left and the left are a bunch of angels, when in fact it's the inverse.
02:01:27.000Right now, a large portion of the right wants to see Turning Point burn.
02:01:32.000So you've got the left celebrating, but elements of the right and the left in agreement that Turning Point is the true perpetrator, which is the weird coalition between the Turning Point.
02:01:41.000I'm sorry, the Candace Owens and the Young Turks audience, which I find very interesting.
02:02:49.000We're going to have conversations about how we move forward, what we have to do, and how we have to do it, what this means for the show going forward.
02:02:58.000Like I mentioned, we'll be in Florida.
02:08:07.000Well, all I can tell you is the ruling 13 families, they basically have a system in place to pay homage, and no one even pays attention to it.
02:08:17.000Like, for instance, you have a team called the 49ers, 4 and 9 is 13.
02:08:21.000You have a team called the 76ers, 7 and 6 is 13.
02:10:32.000I'm saying if you want to have a successful marriage, do not get married on the 7th, 16th, 25th, because you might as well invite your divorce attorney to the wedding.
02:17:45.000I think math is religion because if you believe one plus one equals two, then you've already accepted that you're in something other than binary.
02:17:51.000If you're in binary, one plus one equals one, zero.
02:17:59.000And again, when you look at the first vowel in the word male, it's a when you look at our argument into the day, when you look at the English language, like for instance, a lot of people who are attorneys tend to be one of life paths.
02:18:09.000Attorney starts with A, first vowel and lawyer, A, A is the first letter of the alphabet.
02:18:14.000So you have to start looking at the whole pattern.
02:18:17.000And no one's going to get this in 15 minutes.
02:18:19.000No one's going to get this in an hour because, quite frankly, I didn't believe in this stuff until I start seeing example after example after example.
02:18:26.000And at the end of the day, listen, you guys want to talk about you guys being hated.
02:23:01.000In like the political, like online spaces, do you guys like, what is your guys' opinion when it comes to like, do you think the majority of the people in the space are just like grifters, or do you think that they're more like that they actually believe in the things they advocate for?