Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Siaka VS Brian Shapiro Debate on J6, TRUMP, & COVID | Timcast IRL

00:01:12.000 Ladies and gentlemen, welcome to this special episode of Timcast IRL.

00:01:16.000 I know that many of you, it is the day before the greatest holiday, the 4th of July, Independence Day.

00:01:22.000 And you're probably out cooking burgers and having a good time, but we still do have an episode for all of you, despite the fact that you're going to be chilling with family.

00:01:28.000 Maybe you'll get around to the show.

00:01:30.000 And so we're not going to be talking about the hard news of the day.

00:01:33.000 We're going to be debating the hard news of the past week, as it is a holiday.

00:01:37.000 And, you know, we want to give you guys an opportunity to spend time with your family, maybe come back and watch this.

00:01:41.000 So the big questions that we have.

00:01:43.000 In the past couple of weeks, have to do with immigration, have to do with, of course, insurrection.

00:01:49.000 We have a Democrat who won her primary race in New York, but she has been a part of organizations explicitly stating they want to end Western civilization, they want to end America and bring violence to America.

00:02:02.000 The question then is Is this insurrectionist eligible to hold office in Congress?

00:02:09.000 And as we've discussed this before, people have brought up, but what about Donald Trump?

00:02:13.000 And his insurrection, and the argument that both sides point the fingers at each other.

00:02:19.000 So, we will be starting off this debate, this discussion, on the issue of the latest temporary protected status ruling, which will see maybe around half a million to 600,000 people being deported.

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00:02:58.000 We got a couple people joining us to have this heated and hopefully hilarious discussion.

00:03:03.000 I hope we can make it funny.

00:03:04.000 Brian, what's going on?

00:03:05.000 Who are you?

00:03:05.000 What's up, man?

00:03:06.000 I feel like you need to buy me a studio apartment right down the street now.

00:03:09.000 That's what I think.

00:03:10.000 Brian Shapiro.

00:03:11.000 I've been called worse.

00:03:13.000 I do a show called Pushing the Limits.

00:03:16.000 And yeah.

00:03:17.000 That's who I am at PTL radio show.

00:03:19.000 Before the show starts, he's like, How much of a raging lib should I be?

00:03:22.000 Should I go all the way through 11 or just be calm and nice?

00:03:25.000 And I'm like, Brian's great.

00:03:27.000 He's nice to you in person, but you get him on the internet and he can crank it up.

00:03:30.000 He turns on the show.

00:03:31.000 I mean, in person, I'm not always nice.

00:03:32.000 Did you see any of the videos I did?

00:03:33.000 Ian was hanging out with me.

00:03:35.000 Ian, am I always nice in person?

00:03:36.000 No.

00:03:40.000 All right, gentlemen, who's next?

00:03:41.000 What's up, guys?

00:03:42.000 Siaka here.

00:03:43.000 Siaka Massaqua, father.

00:03:45.000 I'm lead with that first.

00:03:47.000 Actor, producer.

00:03:48.000 And as you can see, I got my little ones with me.

00:03:51.000 Always in my heart.

00:03:52.000 And yeah, I am not a raging lip.

00:03:55.000 So let's go.

00:03:57.000 I'm just raging.

00:03:57.000 And then Ian.

00:03:58.000 Fair enough.

00:04:00.000 I mean, sunglasses on the Morrison look going.

00:04:00.000 Let's go.

00:04:03.000 Bloodshot eyes.

00:04:04.000 It's so early in the morning for me.

00:04:05.000 Ian's tagline says, smarter than everyone in Congress.

00:04:09.000 Oh, perfect.

00:04:10.000 I mean, Ian literally said that he was smarter than everyone in Congress.

00:04:13.000 I got to start talking myself up more.

00:04:15.000 But the funny thing is, pragmatically, we're like, that's not true, Ian.

00:04:19.000 They're smart people.

00:04:20.000 But emotionally, I think, screw everyone in Congress.

00:04:23.000 Yeah. 0.78

00:04:24.000 All of them.

00:04:24.000 It's the Point across whether it's true or not.

00:04:26.000 My cat is smarter than everyone.

00:04:28.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:04:29.000 My dog's pretty smart.

00:04:30.000 Hey, we also got Talon on the bus.

00:04:32.000 On a side note, I always wanted to debate an insurrectionist.

00:04:35.000 Oh, yeah.

00:04:35.000 So nice to be here.

00:04:36.000 Well, I don't, I'm still, then you're still going to be waiting because I don't have anything.

00:04:41.000 That is true.

00:04:41.000 I was never, here we go.

00:04:43.000 Misdemeanors.

00:04:43.000 Right?

00:04:44.000 I don't know.

00:04:45.000 Why were you there?

00:04:46.000 I was there because I wanted to be.

00:04:47.000 I'm an American.

00:04:48.000 I know, but why?

00:04:48.000 Why were you there?

00:04:49.000 Because I wanted to see his.

00:04:50.000 Do you think the election was stolen?

00:04:51.000 Yeah, I did.

00:04:52.000 And I still do.

00:04:53.000 Okay, so you're a tinfoil hot conspiracy theorist, then.

00:04:56.000 I mean, you think it's not.

00:04:57.000 So why were you not?

00:04:58.000 Where's the evidence of widespread voter fraud?

00:05:00.000 Well, so you start off with California when they changed the rules so they could make it.

00:05:04.000 Where's the evidence?

00:05:04.000 No, no, no.

00:05:04.000 That's the evidence.

00:05:05.000 That's the evidence.

00:05:06.000 Can I start the evidence?

00:05:06.000 Where's the evidence?

00:05:07.000 Can you let me finish my sentence to continue the sentence?

00:05:09.000 So Trump lost California.

00:05:10.000 Is that what you're saying?

00:05:11.000 No, I didn't say that.

00:05:12.000 Where's the evidence?

00:05:13.000 The evidence was in my house when, for four to five years in my own house, I was getting ballots for people who were dead and didn't live there.

00:05:20.000 That's not evidence of widespread voter fraud.

00:05:22.000 That's part of the evidence.

00:05:23.000 If you let somebody finish the sentence, instead of cutting them off when they finish it, I'm going, hey.

00:05:27.000 Semantic point that is evidence, it's not proof.

00:05:29.000 Right.

00:05:30.000 Well, so we're going through evidence.

00:05:31.000 So let me give you guys a quick little breakdown of this is important for all the people who are probably mad at me saying, what do you mean?

00:05:37.000 So here's a scenario I like to give a store clerk gets shot and killed.

00:05:41.000 The police find nine millimeter bullet casings.

00:05:46.000 They then hear someone say, Oh, his next door neighbor hated him and they were fighting all the time.

00:05:50.000 I heard him screaming.

00:05:51.000 They go to the neighbor's house and they find nine millimeter bullet casings in front of his house.

00:05:54.000 That's evidence.

00:05:55.000 Then turns out the guy actually just dropped them when he was leaving and he's been out of town for two weeks, so he couldn't possibly have done it.

00:06:01.000 Not proof, but is evidence.

00:06:02.000 So when you're getting, you know, 10 mail in votes to someone's house, someone says, This is evidence there could be voter fraud because these are not requested, they're lying around.

00:06:13.000 Does it prove widespread voter fraud?

00:06:15.000 Well, so that's correct.

00:06:16.000 The statement is where is the evidence that could prove.

00:06:20.000 Widespread voter fraud that could have changed the outcome of the 2020 election.

00:06:23.000 Hold on.

00:06:24.000 It's been six years. 1.00

00:06:25.000 The two idiots that keep, not you, that keep talking about this are Dinesh D'Souza, who is an imbecile, and the My Pillow idiot. 1.00

00:06:33.000 Okay. 1.00

00:06:33.000 No, he's not a smart guy. 1.00

00:06:35.000 2000 Lies was a bullshit documentary. 1.00

00:06:35.000 I disagree. 1.00

00:06:38.000 So, where is your evidence that could prove that there is widespread voter fraud that Donald Trump won the 2020 election?

00:06:46.000 So, is illegally changing the rules of voting in multiple states?

00:06:49.000 That's not widespread voter fraud.

00:06:50.000 That's not widespread voter fraud.

00:06:52.000 How is it not?

00:06:53.000 How is it not?

00:06:54.000 Hold on.

00:06:55.000 I mean, because you say the sentence and you complete it, and I start with three words and then you cut off.

00:07:00.000 Go ahead.

00:07:01.000 Go ahead.

00:07:01.000 Let me talk.

00:07:02.000 So it works out this way.

00:07:03.000 If you have two to three states that change their constitution from a judicial order, which is illegal, that's part of evidence that pushes that illegal voting to the other thing.

00:07:15.000 I would argue that's proof of widespread voter fraud.

00:07:19.000 Never been proven in a court of law.

00:07:20.000 No, no, no, no.

00:07:21.000 No, no.

00:07:21.000 Hold on.

00:07:21.000 There's two different things to consider.

00:07:23.000 So.

00:07:25.000 If your position on this is, were people fraudulently making or filling out ballots?

00:07:31.000 That's a different question from, did executives and judiciaries violate the law and constitution to create a mechanism by which people were legally capable to do these things?

00:07:40.000 Well, we were, why did they do that?

00:07:42.000 They did it.

00:07:42.000 It doesn't matter.

00:07:43.000 Why?

00:07:43.000 That's illegal.

00:07:44.000 It was illegal.

00:07:44.000 Why did they do it?

00:07:45.000 So does that mean Donald Trump won?

00:07:46.000 It was illegal.

00:07:46.000 It doesn't matter.

00:07:47.000 That means Donald Trump won.

00:07:48.000 I don't know, but it was a cheating.

00:07:50.000 That's the whole thing.

00:07:50.000 Okay.

00:07:51.000 That's the whole point, brother.

00:07:52.000 The thing that you guys always miss is that you go, whoa, if we find there was cheating, that meant Trump won.

00:07:57.000 That's not what the argument is.

00:07:58.000 The argument is, why do you change the rules illegally?

00:08:01.000 That's not what Donald Trump said.

00:08:02.000 I don't care.

00:08:03.000 I'm talking about me.

00:08:04.000 Well, great.

00:08:04.000 I do.

00:08:05.000 That's why a lot of idiots were there on January 6th. 1.00

00:08:06.000 You know, when you get Donald Trump to sit down with you and talk to him, then that's the argument you can have with him. 1.00

00:08:11.000 But you said you were there because you were a murderer.

00:08:14.000 Yes, I do.

00:08:14.000 And I did again three times.

00:08:16.000 Okay, well.

00:08:16.000 But the point of what I'm looking at, what I look at, Donald Trump can say what he wants.

00:08:21.000 I'm my own man.

00:08:22.000 That's the part you guys also miss.

00:08:24.000 You think everyone's just the same person and think, well, Trump said it, so I'm going to say it.

00:08:28.000 No, I look at it from the standpoint of, If a judge sits there and bypasses the Constitution of three states that allows mail in voting when they shouldn't have, we have a problem.

00:08:40.000 We have to address it.

00:08:42.000 Nobody even wanted to.

00:08:43.000 Why didn't they?

00:08:44.000 They didn't want to because their guy won.

00:08:46.000 Okay, so let's talk about this.

00:08:47.000 Then you go.

00:08:48.000 So you're your own man.

00:08:49.000 Okay, fine.

00:08:50.000 Well, guess what?

00:08:51.000 You're not a judge.

00:08:52.000 Donald Trump had 61 opportunities in court.

00:08:56.000 They all said that there was no merit.

00:08:57.000 Some of those judges were actually.

00:08:59.000 Hold on, let me finish now.

00:09:00.000 Let me finish now.

00:09:01.000 Some of those judges were actually Republican appointed judges.

00:09:04.000 He was 0 and 61 in the courts.

00:09:07.000 You had a bunch of people that showed up there on January 6th.

00:09:09.000 I would assume you were one of those people that believed in the lies that the election was rigged or stolen.

00:09:15.000 You can say that until the council comes.

00:09:16.000 Hold on a second.

00:09:17.000 I just point out what was rigged.

00:09:18.000 We are six years later.

00:09:19.000 I find it very interesting that when Donald Trump loses, it was rigged.

00:09:24.000 When he won in 2016, that seemed to be just fine.

00:09:27.000 When he won in 2024, that seemed to be just fine.

00:09:31.000 I got to fact check.

00:09:31.000 Now, I understand.

00:09:32.000 Hold on.

00:09:33.000 I understand that Donald Trump said there was still cheating involved in 2016.

00:09:37.000 I know what you're going to say, Tim.

00:09:38.000 But the fact of the matter is that Republicans still say nothing to see here.

00:09:42.000 Donald Trump won.

00:09:43.000 Same thing in 2024.

00:09:44.000 We have a fact check.

00:09:45.000 Trump and his campaign filed four to six lawsuits in 2020 over the election.

00:09:50.000 And how did that work out?

00:09:51.000 Between four and six.

00:09:52.000 There were over 60 court appearances.

00:09:55.000 Those were PACs.

00:09:57.000 It's different.

00:09:57.000 Those were.

00:09:58.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:09:59.000 So there was no merit.

00:10:00.000 The judges were the no merit.

00:10:01.000 That's actually not correct.

00:10:02.000 But for the Trump and the Trump campaign, it was between four and six.

00:10:05.000 The issue was not merit.

00:10:06.000 The issue was moot.

00:10:09.000 The issue was, in the instance of many of these suits, they said the amount of ballots that would be overturned would not change the results.

00:10:15.000 Therefore, it's moot.

00:10:17.000 Case dismissed.

00:10:17.000 Well, the bottom line is in our entire history of this country, Donald Trump's the only president that has not conceded an election.

00:10:26.000 And I understand that you were not one of.

00:10:29.000 That's also incorrect.

00:10:30.000 Come on.

00:10:31.000 Who did it in 1876?

00:10:33.000 Okay, well.

00:10:34.000 No, no, I mean, this is civil. 0.55

00:10:35.000 This is the end of Reconstruction.

00:10:37.000 The presidency was determined by a panel because a similar thing happened where states turned in dueling sets of electors.

00:10:45.000 And then the Democrats and Republicans sit down like, okay, this is it.

00:10:47.000 Civil war. 0.99

00:10:48.000 All right, so let's just say that's 150% correct. 0.95

00:10:50.000 Let's say in the.

00:10:51.000 Past 150 years.

00:10:52.000 Donald Trump is the only president to not concede an election.

00:10:55.000 Now, I understand, and I know this is getting into other territory, but I did a little bit of study on you, and I understand you're not a violent criminal.

00:11:02.000 I understand you weren't one of those people that beat police officers, but this is a really important question because I don't know what your answer is going to be on this.

00:11:09.000 Are you a hostage and a patriot if you beat a cop on January 6th?

00:11:13.000 It depends on the circumstances.

00:11:15.000 Okay, so let's go with Daniel Rodriguez, who assaulted Michael Fanone.

00:11:21.000 Michael Fanone had a stroke because of that.

00:11:23.000 Next day.

00:11:23.000 And no, you're talking about Brian Sitnik.

00:11:25.000 I'm talking about Michael Fanone.

00:11:27.000 This is a question.

00:11:28.000 The next day question mark?

00:11:30.000 We'll talk about it.

00:11:30.000 I know.

00:11:31.000 Okay, I didn't know that.

00:11:31.000 I thought that was a statement.

00:11:32.000 No, no, no.

00:11:33.000 Sitnik got hit with the.

00:11:35.000 Yeah, and I'm happy to get into that with you as well.

00:11:37.000 I'm a different guy.

00:11:40.000 But Daniel Rodriguez got 12 years in prison.

00:11:44.000 Because of him attacking Officer Fanone, he had a stroke.

00:11:48.000 Is that man a hostage and a Patriot?

00:11:51.000 Well, again, it depends on the situation.

00:11:53.000 I just gave What are you talking about?

00:11:56.000 What happened before?

00:11:57.000 He assaulted a cop.

00:11:58.000 What are you talking about?

00:11:59.000 Like, for example, did you see the videos, which I have, when they were standing there peacefully, DC Metro comes in, starts firing pepper balls at everyone and forced them back.

00:11:59.000 What happened?

00:12:10.000 So you're saying Michael Fanon deserved to be physically assaulted?

00:12:13.000 I'm not saying this.

00:12:14.000 I'm saying scenarios are different for every situation and we have to talk about it clearly.

00:12:19.000 When they are attacking people and someone's like, what am I doing?

00:12:22.000 And they fight back.

00:12:23.000 So hold on.

00:12:24.000 Real quick, real quick.

00:12:24.000 Let me get this right.

00:12:26.000 We got to go back to the chain of events for January 6th before we even get to that point.

00:12:31.000 The barricades are set up around the Capitol building, and at some point, protesters tear them down.

00:12:37.000 I've seen the video.

00:12:37.000 They move them outside.

00:12:38.000 Well, they knock the barricades over, push them aside, and enter into a closed property.

00:12:44.000 By the way, on that, the individual in the video I've seen with my lawyer when I was in DC for my case, there's a man removing those barricades.

00:12:53.000 They have yet to even identify.

00:12:55.000 Of course, of course.

00:12:57.000 Okay, but the point I'm making is, you know, you're bringing up that the police.

00:13:02.000 So, this is true.

00:13:04.000 The people are all standing on the Capitol.

00:13:06.000 Nobody's smashing it if nobody's fighting.

00:13:07.000 And the police start shooting pepper balls and throwing flashbangs.

00:13:10.000 However, they've already bypassed the barricades into a closed space and are now swarming around the Capitol.

00:13:16.000 So it's not surprising.

00:13:17.000 No, no, that's not.

00:13:18.000 But here, Tim, that's not true.

00:13:19.000 The group that went there was about 25 people who removed the barricades.

00:13:23.000 I understand, but that's the point.

00:13:24.000 No, the point is if you don't know you're breaking the law and then people are attacking you, you're like, what's going on?

00:13:29.000 The point I'm making is a lot of people say the police started attacking the crowd, inciting violence, but you have to look at it holistically.

00:13:29.000 That's not the point I'm making.

00:13:37.000 I understand, and I make this argument all the time.

00:13:39.000 There are tons of people who did not know.

00:13:41.000 There was any crime or anything wrong with walking up to a public building.

00:13:44.000 The barricades had been removed.

00:13:45.000 And, you know, Jenk Uger screamed at me about this because he didn't know the law.

00:13:49.000 He didn't know what happened.

00:13:50.000 I said, you cannot legally charge someone with trespass without having given them a warning of trespass.

00:13:56.000 And if barricades have been physically removed from public grounds and you're walking your dog and you walk on the sidewalk, you can't trespass that person.

00:14:03.000 But hold on.

00:14:03.000 My point is, when you have, we're not talking about people that have just are walking around the grounds.

00:14:10.000 We're talking about the specific area where you have what appears to be about a thousand.

00:14:14.000 Or so individuals, and they are protesting and have.

00:14:19.000 Someone removed these and they all came in.

00:14:21.000 It is true, a lot of these people, I'd say most of them, did not expect the police to start firing pepper balls or throwing flashbangs.

00:14:27.000 Now let's talk about what the police are experiencing.

00:14:30.000 The police are seeing a crowd of a thousand people having knocked the barricades down, coming up to the front of the building, and they say, We have to disperse this crowd.

00:14:37.000 They're going to use crowd control in that regard.

00:14:39.000 I don't blame either side.

00:14:41.000 I don't blame the individuals who did not know.

00:14:43.000 I blame the individuals who tore the barricades down.

00:14:46.000 But listen, We look at like Antiva protests or ICE protests.

00:14:51.000 I was just going to say that.

00:14:51.000 Yep.

00:14:53.000 Police are going to initiate crowd control against a group.

00:14:56.000 Right.

00:14:57.000 So, no, I don't understand that.

00:14:58.000 But the crowd control in front of an ICE facility stopping people from coming and going, and people at this time, with the understanding, like myself, that this is okay for you to be walking over here, it doesn't sit in the same mindset when you're sitting there and you're standing there peacefully protesting, as the left was saying, while the fires were behind them for a whole summer.

00:15:18.000 Who said that?

00:15:19.000 But, but, CNN, I think you're taking it completely out of context. 1.00

00:15:23.000 That video, that's bullshit. 0.98

00:15:25.000 What you said is mostly peaceful protests over Ferguson. 0.99

00:15:29.000 Okay, so, first of all, when the buildings were burning, so first of all, there was one CNN anchor that used similar verbiage like that.

00:15:38.000 I think it was, I think there were tens of millions of people that were protesting.

00:15:41.000 Of the tens of millions of people that were protesting across the country, yes, most of those people were not violent.

00:15:46.000 I would even go as far as to say January 6th, there were about 50 to 100,000 people that were there that day, 1,500 people.

00:15:53.000 250,000.

00:15:54.000 Was it that much?

00:15:54.000 Okay, more than that.

00:15:55.000 That proves my point even better.

00:15:55.000 Great.

00:15:57.000 Let's just say 250,000.

00:15:58.000 Of those people, 1,500 people were arrested.

00:16:01.000 About 600 of those people were violent.

00:16:05.000 And when you see a guy like Andrew Paul Johnson, for example, who Donald Trump pardoned, he just got life in prison for sexually molesting two children.

00:16:13.000 Bradley Tyler Dykes, who did a Hitler salute while he was physically assaulting police officers. 0.98

00:16:18.000 So, this bullshit narrative that all these people were getting hit with these pellet or whatever balls or whatever. 0.99

00:16:24.000 They died from that. 1.00

00:16:25.000 It was bullshit. 1.00

00:16:26.000 What bullshit narrative? 1.00

00:16:27.000 There's many. 1.00

00:16:28.000 You're saying the 600 people that assaulted cops, they all were antagonized.

00:16:32.000 So, will you say right now?

00:16:33.000 I said people.

00:16:34.000 So, will you say right now that some of these people that I have listed, like the officer who put Fanon in a stroke, like Tyler Dykes, who did a Hitler salute while he was assaulting cops, these are people who Donald Trump pardoned, the man who you voted for three times?

00:16:47.000 Yes.

00:16:47.000 Will you call these specific people out and say, no, these are not hostages and patriots?

00:16:53.000 They were violence.

00:16:54.000 They were violent people.

00:16:55.000 Are they hostages and patriots?

00:16:57.000 I don't know their full case.

00:16:58.000 I can't say that.

00:16:59.000 But they're violent individuals that.

00:16:59.000 Christ.

00:17:01.000 You can't.

00:17:01.000 Hold on.

00:17:02.000 There's violent individuals that deserve to get the full extent of the law for their violence.

00:17:06.000 I do agree with that.

00:17:07.000 They were pardoned.

00:17:07.000 They served a couple years.

00:17:09.000 They deserve to be pardoned.

00:17:10.000 So, wait, 100%.

00:17:12.000 Well, you're under the law morally wrong.

00:17:14.000 Yeah, under the law, what is the law for assaulting a cop?

00:17:17.000 And then when they went to court and they got that, and they were sentenced to their time?

00:17:22.000 Let me, let me, let me, let me.

00:17:23.000 You want to bring up the war?

00:17:24.000 Ian, what was that thing where.

00:17:26.000 I'm going to bring up something else.

00:17:27.000 What was that thing where that president pardoned all those insurrectionists that you always like to talk about?

00:17:30.000 That was Shea's Rebellion.

00:17:31.000 That was.

00:17:32.000 Tell me about that.

00:17:33.000 After the Civil War, the farmers that had gone off.

00:17:35.000 The Great Civil War?

00:17:36.000 I'm sorry, the Revolutionary War, the farmers that had gone off to fight in the war now came back and they were all, all their farms were in debt.

00:17:42.000 Because they hadn't been working for years fighting the war.

00:17:45.000 So the government, the city, was like, well, we're not going to take your soft currency anymore, which is like your barter, your trade. 0.53

00:17:51.000 We need hard currency to pay back the French.

00:17:54.000 So, farmers give us money.

00:17:56.000 And the farmers are like, we don't have silver.

00:17:57.000 So they're like, then we're going to take your farms.

00:17:59.000 And all the farmers then go to the Capitol.

00:18:02.000 I think this is up north in Massachusetts or something in that area.

00:18:05.000 And they revolt, they surround the Capitol, the courts, massive violence.

00:18:09.000 All these people get arrested.

00:18:11.000 And then.

00:18:12.000 Yeah, one of the presidents, I think it was John Adams.

00:18:14.000 I thought it was Jefferson.

00:18:15.000 Might have been Jefferson.

00:18:16.000 He pardoned.

00:18:17.000 And they just, no, it's actually John Hancock, the governor at the time, decided the only way out of this is through it and pardoned everybody.

00:18:23.000 He's like, look, this is past trauma, it's past injury, and there's no way forward if we harm half the country right now.

00:18:32.000 So we're pardoning everyone and moving forward.

00:18:33.000 So I'm going to bring in leaders.

00:18:36.000 The issue with the first thing I'm going to say you name these specific individuals and they sound like bad people.

00:18:41.000 But I don't think it's fair to ask someone to condemn an individual they don't know anything about just on your word.

00:18:49.000 If you said, will you condemn John Smith and be like, look, I don't know who the guy is.

00:18:52.000 Give me a little context on who John Smith is. 0.55

00:18:53.000 And if you tell me John Smith did a Hitler salute and then he assaulted police officers to him, I don't have to know him personally to say that is an awful human being and he deserves everything he gets.

00:19:03.000 You won't say that. 0.85

00:19:03.000 But you are so impressed. 0.85

00:19:04.000 Every scenario is different.

00:19:05.000 I'm not going to just trust what you're saying is true and insult another person.

00:19:09.000 Look it up.

00:19:09.000 No, no, no, I understand that.

00:19:11.000 My point is not on this specific individual.

00:19:12.000 By all means, we can say, don't do these things.

00:19:14.000 They're bad things to do.

00:19:15.000 But I'm just saying, in a debate, to be like, here's one specific individual, here's another.

00:19:18.000 I'm not giving you one.

00:19:18.000 I can give you plenty.

00:19:19.000 And I'm going to explain why.

00:19:21.000 Why did these people need to be pardoned?

00:19:24.000 The first question that anyone needs to ask is what is the amount of time an individual typically gets on a first offense for assaulting an officer?

00:19:31.000 Is it three years in solitary?

00:19:33.000 Solitary is considered torture by many countries.

00:19:35.000 Depends if they have a record, it's a case by case basis.

00:19:37.000 Right.

00:19:38.000 Depends. 0.78

00:19:39.000 Now I can give you my personal opinion on what I think about assaulting police officers, whether it's Black Lives Matter or January 6th. 0.51

00:19:45.000 I would say, in my personal opinion, if you assault a police officer, which is a horrific crime, first offense, At a protest, I think it should be a minimum of three to four years in jail.

00:19:54.000 Well, this guy.

00:19:55.000 Well, this guy.

00:19:55.000 But this guy did.

00:19:56.000 Very serious crime.

00:19:57.000 So this guy did serve that time.

00:19:59.000 And so the issue with the pardons is there are people that probably should not have been pardoned.

00:20:04.000 But the problem is that I have personally met individuals.

00:20:08.000 Her and her husband got 18 months in prison, in federal prison, for misdemeanors because around like three or four o'clock, I can't remember the exact time.

00:20:08.000 I met a woman.

00:20:19.000 This is after this all violence. 1.00

00:20:20.000 Everything's cleared out.

00:20:21.000 People are already leaving.

00:20:22.000 Mm hmm.

00:20:23.000 They were walking through D.C.

00:20:25.000 They come to the Capitol building where there are no barricades.

00:20:28.000 They're on the other side where there was no violence.

00:20:30.000 They walked up the stairs where the doors are open and they walked inside and asked people what was going on.

00:20:36.000 And the police said, There's a protest.

00:20:38.000 I know what you're talking about.

00:20:39.000 They've done this story.

00:20:40.000 They then left.

00:20:42.000 And then a year later, feds kicked their doors in front of their children and arrested them.

00:20:46.000 And the judge refused to allow them to present evidence that was exculpatory.

00:20:50.000 So, Tim, that's wrong.

00:20:52.000 Indeed.

00:20:52.000 And I, hold on.

00:20:53.000 The majority of those things are wrong.

00:20:55.000 I'm not, and I, Listen, I've been very consistent on my opinions on this.

00:20:58.000 I'll even take your circumstance.

00:21:01.000 I believe that there's no question that there were people that were overcharged.

00:21:04.000 There's no question that there are certain situations where it was politically motivated.

00:21:08.000 And in those specific situations, completely agree with everybody in this room.

00:21:11.000 So here's the issue.

00:21:12.000 But I'm talking about the most violent criminal.

00:21:15.000 But again, did I not just say violence that he deserved to get punished for his violence?

00:21:18.000 Did I not just say that? 0.98

00:21:19.000 Trump called all those people prostitutes. 0.92

00:21:21.000 Yes, yes, but now we have to. 0.97

00:21:21.000 I don't care. 0.97

00:21:23.000 Here's the thing.

00:21:24.000 Yeah, you were going to go on the point, sir.

00:21:25.000 My point is when you have a mass prosecutorial event that is proven malicious, we just wipe it out.

00:21:33.000 You have no choice.

00:21:34.000 That's why I brought up Shay's rebellion.

00:21:35.000 Owen Schroyer.

00:21:37.000 Was permitted to be there.

00:21:39.000 He and the InfoWars guys had a permit to be outside the Capitol doing a rally.

00:21:43.000 He never entered the building.

00:21:45.000 He was walking around with a bullhorn.

00:21:47.000 When they convicted him and sentenced him to federal prison, I think, right, for two or three months.

00:21:53.000 When he went to prison, when they were sentencing him, they explicitly stated that because in the interim after conviction, he went on his show and spoke politically about his views and support for Trump, he deserved extra time in prison.

00:22:06.000 So when something like that happens, and you know the prosecution has said, We will target you for your politics and we'll punish you for supporting Trump.

00:22:13.000 The only thing you can do is say, we are wiping the slate off.

00:22:16.000 Now, with all that being said, these bad guys who hit cops and everything went to prison for three years.

00:22:23.000 I don't think it's enough.

00:22:24.000 And some got solitary confinement.

00:22:26.000 Well, change the law.

00:22:28.000 And the biggest problem.

00:22:29.000 It wouldn't matter if you changed the law because you would have pardoned them.

00:22:31.000 The biggest problem that I have with where people like you come with your arguments is that you focus on those and you don't focus on the innocent people who didn't.

00:22:39.000 Oh, I have.

00:22:40.000 The grandmother.

00:22:41.000 No, you don't do it with them.

00:22:42.000 You're wrong.

00:22:42.000 You don't listen to my show.

00:22:43.000 I know Pam Hempel.

00:22:44.000 I've interviewed her.

00:22:45.000 You don't do it with this passion.

00:22:46.000 You don't.

00:22:46.000 You're wrong.

00:22:47.000 I've watched enough of you that you don't do it with passion.

00:22:47.000 You're wrong.

00:22:49.000 You're wrong.

00:22:50.000 What people have I interviewed on January 1st?

00:22:51.000 You don't go out and go, hey, you know what was wrong?

00:22:54.000 The fact they didn't let them use their own evidence off their phone to sit there and prove themselves.

00:22:58.000 The exculpatory evidence was barred.

00:23:00.000 They wouldn't let them use evidence, man.

00:23:02.000 It's like the judicial wouldn't do that.

00:23:02.000 So, for that matter.

00:23:04.000 And no one, so many people on the other side of the fence sat there and go, I don't care.

00:23:08.000 You're a problem because you're a trust.

00:23:09.000 You got to understand that.

00:23:10.000 That's the problem. 0.96

00:23:11.000 First of all, you got to understand Brian's a fascist.

00:23:14.000 And he believes that in judicial proceedings, the government should be allowed to bar individuals from bringing in exculpatory evidence.

00:23:20.000 Can I ask you, what did you say about?

00:23:21.000 I'm definitely not a fascist.

00:23:23.000 What did you say about Brian Sitnick?

00:23:25.000 He did die the next day.

00:23:26.000 You don't think it had anything to do with the death?

00:23:27.000 No, no, no.

00:23:28.000 I said he died the next day.

00:23:29.000 Did you feel like what happened that day might have played a role?

00:23:29.000 Right.

00:23:32.000 I don't know.

00:23:32.000 He died of a stroke.

00:23:33.000 Yeah.

00:23:34.000 That's what I do know.

00:23:35.000 Are you aware of what the coroner said?

00:23:37.000 The coroner said that January 6th did have something to do with it.

00:23:40.000 Right.

00:23:40.000 But when you talk about strokes and you talk about plaque going into your brain, that doesn't happen in a day.

00:23:46.000 Wait.

00:23:46.000 What about the plaque?

00:23:47.000 That happens in the lifetime of a man.

00:23:49.000 But hold on, hold on.

00:23:50.000 Okay, well, so we can't just say, oh, it's natural.

00:23:52.000 Here's what I'm going to say.

00:23:53.000 They said natural causes.

00:23:54.000 Okay, but yeah, but here's what he also said.

00:23:57.000 He also, the medical examiner noted, and you're correct, that the violence and what he endured that day, including getting assaulted with a chemical substance, played a role in his condition.

00:24:07.000 Yeah.

00:24:08.000 Now. 0.99

00:24:08.000 What about eating like crap? 0.99

00:24:09.000 Does that play a role? 0.99

00:24:10.000 Okay, so.

00:24:11.000 Look, Ashley Baba got shot and killed, so it's like, I don't think we play the racist.

00:24:15.000 Absolutely.

00:24:15.000 But how many protesters died that day?

00:24:18.000 There was another five.

00:24:18.000 How many persons?

00:24:19.000 It was Ashley Babbitt.

00:24:20.000 There was a woman, I believe, that had a heart attack and she was trampled that day.

00:24:23.000 One guy fell off his bed.

00:24:25.000 One guy was.

00:24:26.000 Listen, it was a horrible day.

00:24:30.000 But there's nobody on the other side going, wow, these people who didn't know what was going on, she shouldn't have been beaten to death. 1.00

00:24:37.000 This one woman shouldn't have her brain scrambled and then get kicked out of her apartment because she can't work because she was in a tunnel. 0.51

00:24:43.000 It's a horrible day. 1.00

00:24:46.000 That's the part we're waiting for.

00:24:47.000 Because all you guys want to do is sit there and go, you beat cops, you beat cops.

00:24:51.000 What about everyone else who had their life ruined? 0.98

00:24:53.000 What about the fact that I was on a list that I couldn't fly for three years and not charged with a damn crime? 0.86

00:24:58.000 That's fascism, and no one ever talks about that. 0.52

00:25:00.000 Why don't we ever talk about that?

00:25:01.000 Why don't we ever care about that?

00:25:03.000 Here's what I'll say.

00:25:04.000 They beat the cops, and that's it.

00:25:05.000 They beat the cops.

00:25:06.000 Here's what I'll say.

00:25:07.000 Our career was ruined because I just was standing someplace and they painted your career.

00:25:11.000 Your career was ruined?

00:25:12.000 No, was.

00:25:13.000 Until I got pardoned, right?

00:25:15.000 Until I just leaned all hard in.

00:25:17.000 Okay, right.

00:25:17.000 So here's what I'll say to that.

00:25:20.000 Here's my number one concern, okay, beyond somebody's career.

00:25:25.000 I think about the families who have lost loved ones.

00:25:28.000 I think about the officers who have traumatic brain injury.

00:25:32.000 I think about people who have, you know, injuries that they have to suffer through for the rest of.

00:25:37.000 Of their lives. 1.00

00:25:38.000 A lot of them were J Sixers. 0.77

00:25:39.000 A lot of them were J Sixers that were just standing there, bro.

00:25:42.000 Again. 1.00

00:25:42.000 You don't think about them. 1.00

00:25:43.000 And this is proof of my point because as you're bringing out who you think about, you didn't know what I just said.

00:25:48.000 You didn't think about the 106 police officers that you were going to go down the list that had injuries, but you didn't open a word about the guy who was pushed off the stairs and was arrested.

00:25:56.000 You're not listening to my words, so I'll repeat myself once again.

00:25:59.000 The people who were injured, yes, there were officers that had traumatic brain injury, but anybody who was injured that day that didn't commit any crimes, I absolutely feel for.

00:26:07.000 So why, then why?

00:26:08.000 Let me ask you, why do you not?

00:26:10.000 See the government go after these people in a way that was not even, it wasn't even reasonable.

00:26:16.000 And they ruined their lives, bro.

00:26:18.000 And I don't hear a word.

00:26:20.000 I don't hear a word from the other side about average people having the weight of the most powerful government.

00:26:26.000 Who, and the other side I don't hear is the fact that the lack of security, no one goes, huh, how did these random people just get in here?

00:26:33.000 As opposed to, it's supposed to be the most protected areas.

00:26:36.000 Yet if you had your bodyguard who you said was awesome, if he dropped the ball, you're not going to just be mad at the person that attacked you.

00:26:42.000 You're going to be mad at that.

00:26:43.000 This individual that you hired to do a certain job.

00:26:48.000 That's not the job.

00:26:49.000 Do you know the law?

00:26:50.000 Who controls the security?

00:26:51.000 Who controls the security?

00:26:53.000 Who controls the security at that point?

00:26:55.000 I understand a couple things there.

00:26:56.000 First of all, Donald Trump had the power.

00:26:58.000 He has the power to call in the National Guard.

00:26:58.000 Who controls?

00:27:00.000 Did he not?

00:27:01.000 Who controls?

00:27:02.000 I'm asking you.

00:27:03.000 Did he not try to?

00:27:04.000 I'm asking you.

00:27:05.000 What did he do?

00:27:05.000 Did he not try to?

00:27:06.000 Did he not try to?

00:27:06.000 What did he do that day?

00:27:07.000 He asked them, Do you guys want this?

00:27:08.000 The January 6th Commission asked him, Do you want this?

00:27:10.000 All right, guys, guys.

00:27:11.000 He said he wanted.

00:27:12.000 Who controls the security at the Capitol?

00:27:14.000 Donald Trump is the president of the United States.

00:27:17.000 Donald Trump had the power to call in the National Guard.

00:27:18.000 That's not the question I asked you.

00:27:19.000 He did that for you.

00:27:20.000 It's been proven.

00:27:20.000 That's not the question I asked you.

00:27:21.000 You're not doing that.

00:27:22.000 What you said is incorrect.

00:27:22.000 No, it's not.

00:27:23.000 Can you please answer my question before we move on?

00:27:25.000 Can he answer that question?

00:27:26.000 Who's in charge of security for the war?

00:27:28.000 Well, obviously, you could point the finger as well at Nancy Pelosi.

00:27:31.000 Okay.

00:27:32.000 But, Tim, what are you going to say?

00:27:32.000 Thank you.

00:27:34.000 That proves it.

00:27:35.000 Yeah, that's it.

00:27:36.000 Thank you.

00:27:36.000 But, Donald Trump called in the National Guard within the flip of a couple months back.

00:27:41.000 Did he not?

00:27:42.000 I want to bring this into the modern era.

00:27:43.000 I'm surprised he didn't do that.

00:27:44.000 Because there's a couple things that are going on since then, so we'll move forward.

00:27:47.000 Yeah.

00:27:47.000 But the last thing I'll just say on the issue, because you made a point, is I'll use one example.

00:27:51.000 There's a woman who lives in Alaska. 0.98

00:27:53.000 The feds raided her home because she looked like somebody who was in the Capitol. 0.99

00:27:58.000 So they raided her home.

00:27:59.000 I mean, this is pretty crazy.

00:28:01.000 That's not evidence.

00:28:01.000 That's shocking.

00:28:03.000 So I think the issue that Sackett brings up, that I often bring up, is I sit down with somebody and they say, Someone punched a cop.

00:28:12.000 I'm like, Those people all deserve prison.

00:28:14.000 Assaulted an officer, first offense.

00:28:16.000 Not hostage and patriots.

00:28:17.000 They don't deserve money.

00:28:18.000 Hold on.

00:28:18.000 That's a different question.

00:28:20.000 The people who are violent, the people who turn on barricades and smash windows all deserve prison.

00:28:23.000 But here's the issue.

00:28:25.000 When I pointed out the majority of people who are actually charged, largely with misdemeanors, you have more than half of the people on the other side of the building where there's no riot.

00:28:35.000 The rioters on one side of the building get in and they go and open doors on the other side.

00:28:39.000 Internally, the police themselves open doors.

00:28:41.000 Then there's a bunch of people walking around and what do they see?

00:28:41.000 Right.

00:28:44.000 The doors were opened and this is a public building.

00:28:46.000 In my video, you hear me go, is this where they're letting people in?

00:28:49.000 Where people.

00:28:50.000 Yep.

00:28:51.000 No, you have made statements that are incorrect.

00:28:53.000 First of all, how many officers let people in and how many officers were working that day?

00:28:58.000 The one that I saw, there were two cops right there, and then there was a line of cops.

00:29:02.000 There was a line of cops sitting there.

00:29:04.000 Can I just respond to what he just said?

00:29:06.000 So, some of those.

00:29:07.000 Some of those cops. 0.94

00:29:08.000 Yeah, kicking it.

00:29:09.000 Some of those cops testified under oath.

00:29:12.000 And some of those cops said, which I completely agree with, makes complete sense to me.

00:29:16.000 If you have one cop per, say, 100 people, and you have an armed officer there, you basically have two choices.

00:29:22.000 Choice number one, you take out your gun, you point it, and maybe start shooting at people, which I think everyone here would agree we didn't want them to do.

00:29:29.000 Number two, you let them in.

00:29:31.000 You have two choices in that situation.

00:29:33.000 Why would you do this?

00:29:34.000 Are you done?

00:29:35.000 Yeah, okay, tell me.

00:29:35.000 Okay, okay, okay.

00:29:36.000 The third choice is what they did to me.

00:29:38.000 Hey, go back the other way.

00:29:39.000 Okay, officer.

00:29:40.000 Thank you.

00:29:41.000 You don't think they tried to do that?

00:29:43.000 They did it for me.

00:29:44.000 I literally lost.

00:29:44.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

00:29:46.000 The point I'm bringing up, once again, guys, stop.

00:29:49.000 This is what I'm trying to get to.

00:29:52.000 We have already concluded the portion of violent rioters are bad and deserve prison.

00:29:56.000 Now, there's some contention there, but we largely agree, so we're moving past that.

00:30:00.000 My question is when the doors have been opened, And a fine gentleman over here is walking around with no idea what's going on on public grounds, and they put him in prison, put him on a no fly list.

00:30:11.000 You didn't go to jail, did you?

00:30:12.000 No, I didn't go to jail.

00:30:13.000 Only for one night, but they terrorized me for a few years.

00:30:15.000 But again, right, right.

00:30:16.000 So there are people who went to jail for a year or two, having been walking around doing nothing.

00:30:22.000 This is prosecutorial overreach, and it's malicious.

00:30:25.000 I got a question about assault.

00:30:27.000 Because if you spit on an officer, that's considered assault, but also if you grab him by the hair and pull him on the ground, the battery too.

00:30:34.000 So typically, And there are some jurisdictions where this is different.

00:30:37.000 Assault is putting someone in reasonable fear of harm.

00:30:39.000 Battery is taking an action, a physical contact that results in either harm or embarrassment.

00:30:45.000 So, are there levels of assault where, like, a guy spit near a cop and then he got three years in solitary and a guy, like, pushed a cop and got in his place?

00:30:52.000 Typically, assault on an officer doesn't mean you're spitting near a cop.

00:30:55.000 Assault on an officer means usually attacking a police officer.

00:30:58.000 It's a little nuanced.

00:30:58.000 Okay.

00:30:59.000 About the doors being open.

00:31:01.000 And by the way, when you have one officer and hundreds of people there, An officer, if you told them, just tell people to go the other way, some of those, hold on, some of those officers would laugh at you.

00:31:12.000 That wasn't working.

00:31:14.000 When you have hundreds of angry people that are trying to storm the Capitol, it works with some people, sure.

00:31:18.000 It worked with other people.

00:31:19.000 It worked with you.

00:31:19.000 Okay, guess what?

00:31:20.000 Because they talked about it.

00:31:21.000 Hold on.

00:31:22.000 And you know what?

00:31:23.000 Again, the problem is.

00:31:24.000 You shouldn't have came to my house with 15 agents and guns in my face.

00:31:24.000 It worked with you.

00:31:27.000 That's a different problem.

00:31:28.000 That's the problem.

00:31:30.000 That's the ultimate problem, bro.

00:31:31.000 I'll get to that in a moment.

00:31:32.000 That's the thing.

00:31:32.000 I'll get to that in a moment.

00:31:33.000 So when you're talking about it, there were cops standing around.

00:31:35.000 I was talking to them.

00:31:36.000 That's a different thing.

00:31:37.000 Hold on a second.

00:31:38.000 Hold on.

00:31:39.000 He's already been swearing.

00:31:40.000 I didn't even know.

00:31:41.000 That's what you're talking about.

00:31:43.000 I'm happy to talk about that with you, but that's not what I'm referring to right now.

00:31:46.000 All I'm simply saying is maybe with somebody like you, when an officer says, you can't go in here, leave, maybe it would work with somebody like you.

00:31:53.000 I guess it did.

00:31:54.000 But there were people that they were violent people, some of them.

00:31:57.000 They weren't listening to Capitol Police.

00:31:59.000 So I'm going back to what I said earlier.

00:32:01.000 You have two choices.

00:32:03.000 When you have people that appear to be a threat to you, that could hurt you, that appear to be violent people, you have two choices if you're an officer with a gun.

00:32:13.000 Hold on.

00:32:13.000 You either take out your gun and start shooting them or you let them in.

00:32:17.000 By the way, if you're in a bank, okay, and there's a security guard at the safe and he says, come right in, does that give you the right to go in there and steal money from the safe?

00:32:26.000 No, of course not.

00:32:27.000 Your thing's wrong.

00:32:28.000 Well, actually, hold on.

00:32:29.000 That does create interesting legal problems.

00:32:31.000 Maybe, perhaps, but does it give you the right to go in there and just steal all the money?

00:32:35.000 No, no, no.

00:32:36.000 Actually, depending on the circumstances, you may have a hard time prosecuting that case.

00:32:39.000 Right.

00:32:39.000 Because the cops.

00:32:40.000 An individual standing in a bank and the security guard says, no, you're free to enter.

00:32:43.000 And they go, oh, Okay.

00:32:44.000 The security guard would be breaking the law.

00:32:47.000 So here's, I got something for you.

00:32:49.000 And the first thing I'm going to tell you is I'm about to say something.

00:32:54.000 You're going to give me an incorrect response.

00:32:56.000 Okay?

00:32:57.000 So, the first thing I'm going to say is get ready for it.

00:33:00.000 January 6th is proven to have been an inside job.

00:33:02.000 Yep.

00:33:03.000 Confirmed.

00:33:04.000 Yep.

00:33:05.000 And I'm going to prove it to you.

00:33:06.000 I can prove it to you.

00:33:08.000 Now, give me your response first.

00:33:10.000 So, and then I'm going to explain to you why it's true, actually.

00:33:13.000 So, claims that the FBI.

00:33:15.000 I didn't say that.

00:33:17.000 Orchestrated January 6th.

00:33:18.000 I never said that.

00:33:19.000 Okay.

00:33:19.000 You never said that.

00:33:20.000 I said it was inside job.

00:33:21.000 By who?

00:33:21.000 Okay.

00:33:22.000 By police.

00:33:24.000 So, there was an investigation in 2021 of it allegedly being.

00:33:24.000 Okay.

00:33:28.000 An inside job that was debunked.

00:33:30.000 The report came out in 2024.

00:33:33.000 I know you didn't, there were no undercover agents that were there.

00:33:37.000 There were zero full time undercover FBI employees that were present in the protest.

00:33:51.000 Okay, wait, You have changed the definition of inside job to fit this narrative.

00:34:02.000 Well, who was it?

00:34:02.000 Tell me.

00:34:03.000 Okay, so hold on.

00:34:05.000 The next thing I want to ask people is what is your understanding of what an inside job is?

00:34:10.000 Well, let's start with a bank robbery.

00:34:13.000 When there's a bank robbery and the police are investigating and they say this appears to be an inside job, does this mean that they were undercover federal agents?

00:34:20.000 Does it mean that the head of the bank was in on it?

00:34:23.000 Does it mean that the head of the bank brought in a bunch of like seven or eight security guards to orchestrate a big robbery?

00:34:28.000 It does not.

00:34:29.000 It could.

00:34:29.000 But typically, it refers to a single low level employee who provided aid to the criminals in some capacity.

00:34:36.000 So, an inside job at a bank, almost 80% of the time, 90% of the time, they're not usually referring to the CEO of the bank setting up a robbery.

00:34:44.000 They're referring to a janitor propping open a back door with a broom so that the bad guys can sneak in the back.

00:34:50.000 An inside job just means someone working within this bank aided those criminals.

00:34:54.000 I understand what your definition is.

00:34:55.000 So, there are a few things to consider.

00:34:58.000 First, did you know that a man was acquitted specifically because the police fanned him into the building?

00:35:05.000 No, I'm unaware of it.

00:35:05.000 There is a man who was acquitted.

00:35:08.000 This is early on. 1.00

00:35:09.000 Black kid, right? 0.99

00:35:11.000 I think he's the only one. 1.00

00:35:12.000 He's the gay kid. 1.00

00:35:13.000 He showed video where the police officer waved him into the building and he points and he's like, and he walked in. 0.51

00:35:20.000 They then criminally charged him and he says, This officer invited me into the building.

00:35:24.000 That's an inside job.

00:35:25.000 I'm not suggesting the FBI orchestrated a genuine.

00:35:27.000 Do you think the FBI orchestrated it?

00:35:29.000 It was an inside job with the FBI?

00:35:31.000 No, I don't.

00:35:31.000 You don't?

00:35:32.000 Matthew Martin was that guy's name who quit.

00:35:34.000 And this was a big deal.

00:35:36.000 And this is when I brought up the point.

00:35:38.000 That, you know, Cenk Uger snapped on a show screaming and ranting about.

00:35:41.000 I said, when a cop waves you to come on in, you can't trespass a person who was just asked to enter.

00:35:47.000 Now, there's more.

00:35:48.000 Inside the building, whatever your argument is as to who is violent, we know that there are a lot of violent people.

00:35:54.000 We know that some people entered the other side of the building, and that's why they weren't charged with felonies.

00:35:58.000 They were charged with misdemeanor trespass.

00:36:00.000 However, there is surveillance footage showing the shaman being walked with the police, and they opened the door.

00:36:09.000 That is the definition of an inside job.

00:36:11.000 Now, hold on.

00:36:12.000 I've heard your argument about you have two choices a gun or you let him in.

00:36:16.000 And the shaman was by himself, surrounded by seven or eight police officers who said, Come with me, sir, right this way, and walked him into the Senate chambers.

00:36:25.000 Yeah, I saw that video.

00:36:26.000 That is an inside job.

00:36:27.000 Okay, so let me respond to that real quickly.

00:36:31.000 So, as you know, Tim, there are a lot of people on the extreme right that say it was an FBI inside job.

00:36:37.000 I know you're not saying that.

00:36:38.000 Right.

00:36:40.000 But here's the deal, right?

00:36:41.000 Kash Patel, about six months ago, made statements.

00:36:45.000 Saying that there were going to be arrests, that it was an inside job.

00:36:48.000 They literally have made statements like that within the Trump administration.

00:36:52.000 If in fact there are people that broke the law and there's some sort of inside job, then where are the arrests?

00:36:59.000 Let's present that evidence in a courtroom.

00:37:01.000 Yeah, I saw the, what is it, the shaman?

00:37:04.000 Is that how you pronounce his name?

00:37:05.000 Shaman? 1.00

00:37:06.000 Whatever the fuck his name is. 1.00

00:37:07.000 That's Michael Jackson's interlude. 1.00

00:37:09.000 I've interviewed that clown. 0.97

00:37:10.000 Jacob Chancellor. 0.99

00:37:11.000 Yeah, Jacob.

00:37:12.000 He's not a Trump guy, by the way. 1.00

00:37:13.000 I know, but he's a clown living in his mom's basement. 0.99

00:37:15.000 I've interviewed him before. 1.00

00:37:16.000 He ran for office.

00:37:17.000 He got destroyed.

00:37:18.000 He's got an IQ of about 20.

00:37:18.000 He got embarrassed.

00:37:20.000 But anyway, That was weird.

00:37:22.000 That was weird video.

00:37:24.000 I did see that, and I'm hearing you.

00:37:26.000 All I'm simply saying is we keep hearing from the Trump administration inside job, inside job.

00:37:31.000 There's going to be arrests.

00:37:32.000 Well, Cash, where the hell are the arrests?

00:37:34.000 I keep hearing arrests are coming.

00:37:36.000 Agreed.

00:37:37.000 So, like, you think you keep hearing it like that?

00:37:40.000 Who do you think is more frustrated about that, you or me?

00:37:43.000 Well, let's let.

00:37:45.000 We all agree we want to see action under the presumption that they're making these claims.

00:37:50.000 But the point I make on that is the fact that, dude, those arrests. 1.00

00:37:54.000 Vindicate and the belief that we have in so many nonviolent, especially nonviolent, even some that killed themselves, J6ers want to see. 1.00

00:38:02.000 What do you guys think about arresting and then pardoning those people? 1.00

00:38:05.000 The ones that, the inside.

00:38:07.000 Yeah, yeah, after three years of solitary, maybe we'll.

00:38:09.000 Yeah, maybe we'll talk about it.

00:38:10.000 But here again, and we were talking about this earlier. 1.00

00:38:13.000 I personally think J6ers more than just like, oh, hey, let's present it as insurrection for one side and let's like freedom fighters for others. 1.00

00:38:22.000 To me, part of it was. 1.00

00:38:24.000 Government working on technology to be able to come and find all of us in a certain way.

00:38:28.000 And everyone that crossed that border of onto the grass got their phone pings that we talked about before.

00:38:34.000 A lady who was pregnant at the time just got pregnant. 0.99

00:38:37.000 She was standing on the grass.

00:38:39.000 She was put under nine months of house arrest because she was an insurrection by January 6th.

00:38:43.000 She also then they were threatening to take her baby away because they were just, they were being terrorists.

00:38:48.000 Let me ask you a question.

00:38:49.000 They're being terrorists.

00:38:49.000 Did Donald Trump's behaviors that day bother you at all?

00:38:52.000 Four hours he did nothing. 1.00

00:38:53.000 He sat on his ass and he did nothing. 1.00

00:38:56.000 His behavior, he said, He said peacefully and energetically. 1.00

00:39:01.000 I'm not talking about the state.

00:39:03.000 Hold on.

00:39:04.000 I'm not talking about just the statements he made before.

00:39:06.000 I'm talking about the three and a half to four hours when he was asked and begged by members of his administration to put out a video.

00:39:13.000 Okay, wait, hold on.

00:39:13.000 He did nothing about the video.

00:39:15.000 Three hours later.

00:39:17.000 Let's pull this into the future. 1.00

00:39:18.000 Why does Nancy Pelosi get in here?

00:39:21.000 So, guys, he's in charge, dude. 0.95

00:39:23.000 She's not in charge of the campaign.

00:39:23.000 Okay, guys, guys.

00:39:25.000 We're going to move forward and we're going to try and make.

00:39:28.000 We're going to move forward because.

00:39:28.000 This is the tip.

00:39:30.000 Wait, wait, real quick.

00:39:30.000 Real quick, please.

00:39:31.000 This is the problem.

00:39:33.000 It's everything's Trump's fault, but the people who actually can be held responsible for it.

00:39:36.000 Which is what I'm trying to set up.

00:39:38.000 I called the National Guard in five minutes a couple months ago.

00:39:41.000 Guys, why did you have five people?

00:39:42.000 We're going to mute you guys in three seconds because you're starting to debate something we debated 20 minutes ago again.

00:39:47.000 He brought that up.

00:39:48.000 Yeah.

00:39:49.000 So the next question we have is on the merits.

00:39:51.000 Censor me.

00:39:52.000 I will censor you, brother.

00:39:56.000 The insurrection question, the behaviors of Donald Trump and eligibility for office, which brings us halfway to today.

00:40:02.000 So, one of the big issues we have right now that's up for debate is this woman, Daria Liza, Chevalier.

00:40:08.000 She has just won her primary, which is a de facto win for Congress because she's in a Democrat district.

00:40:14.000 She is part of two organizations CUAD, it's been reported.

00:40:19.000 CUAD, which she's reported as a founder of, which is Columbia University Apartheid Devest, as well as its sister organization, I believe it's the National Society for Justice for Palestinians, NSJP.

00:40:30.000 Both of these organizations have put out statements saying that their goals are to destroy either Western civilization.

00:40:36.000 Or to destroy America by bringing violence to America.

00:40:40.000 So, this is a stated insurrectionist, I guess, intent and rebellious, as you'd call it.

00:40:51.000 And now there's a question of whether or not she should be allowed in Congress.

00:40:54.000 How can you swear an oath to the Constitution having explicitly stated you intend to destroy this nation?

00:41:01.000 Before we get to that, though, we're going to go halfway with the question of Donald Trump's eligibility.

00:41:06.000 Did Donald Trump incite an insurrection and participate?

00:41:10.000 Thus, making him ineligible for office?

00:41:12.000 It's a good question.

00:41:13.000 Jack Smith might have something to say about that when he leaves office.

00:41:16.000 I think Jack Smith has a pretty good case.

00:41:19.000 But it's a very slippery slope.

00:41:23.000 As I ask Trump supporters all the time, and I understand you and I disagree on the 2020 election, but I always ask people if Donald Trump doesn't lie, and I consider it a lie, that the election was stolen, does January 6th happen?

00:41:35.000 Obviously, the answer is no.

00:41:36.000 Did he incite it?

00:41:37.000 Well, I go back to if he's not lying about the election every day, months before January 6th, That day does not happen.

00:41:45.000 Now, we'll have to wait and see what happens when he leaves office.

00:41:47.000 My understanding is they did not charge him with incitement, but I would certainly say that if not for Donald Trump lying, saying the election was rigged every day for like almost two months before January 6th, it doesn't happen.

00:42:00.000 But that's not legal incitement in any capacity.

00:42:01.000 It's a slippery slope, it's a gray area.

00:42:03.000 I don't know.

00:42:04.000 But it's not even a gray area.

00:42:05.000 If I said that, if I publicly defamed you in the most egregious of ways, accusing you of violent crimes against children or whatever, that's not incitement.

00:42:14.000 That's defamation.

00:42:15.000 I would say dereliction of duty would probably be easier on the day that it happened than incitement.

00:42:19.000 I think that's a better case you could make.

00:42:21.000 But he's not an insurrectionist.

00:42:22.000 I understand that.

00:42:23.000 But I'm just saying, I could probably make a better case for that based on his inaction that day.

00:42:28.000 So, again, by all means, if you want to accuse Trump of some kind of wrongdoing, the principal question is is he eligible for office?

00:42:36.000 And Democrats tried in several states to bar him from running for office again under this argument that he incited an insurrection intentionally with the purpose of overthrowing the U.S. government.

00:42:46.000 Now, again, I'm stressing this.

00:42:47.000 This was a principal mainstream liberal position that was held by prominent Democrats across the board in multiple states, and they spent millions, if not tens of millions, to actually try to implement that strategy.

00:43:00.000 I mean, listen, you could make the same argument about Republicans and Benghazi and the aid investigations that were led by Republicans into Hillary Clinton.

00:43:06.000 It happens on both sides, they waste money.

00:43:09.000 And I think we should be talking about, you know, more.

00:43:11.000 What we know is that didn't happen, obviously.

00:43:13.000 Donald Trump is the president of the United States.

00:43:15.000 By all means, you can rag on Hillary or rag on Trump for going after Hillary.

00:43:18.000 The question is.

00:43:19.000 If we want to have a debate on Benghazi, we can.

00:43:21.000 But the question is, did Donald Trump orchestrate and incite an insurrection for the purpose of overthrowing the U.S. government?

00:43:29.000 Nope.

00:43:30.000 No, who, how many people?

00:43:31.000 Yeah, no, I look at Trump like a sausage fingers guy.

00:43:33.000 You know what I mean? 0.91

00:43:34.000 Well, his fingers do look like sausages.

00:43:36.000 This is my point. 0.86

00:43:36.000 When he's dialing the phone, like Kafifi, everybody, like, what is Kafifi? 0.86

00:43:40.000 Trump sausage fingers his phone and accidentally pressed send.

00:43:44.000 That's it.

00:43:45.000 You and I know some of the same people, very prominent people on the right that I've had private conversations with.

00:43:51.000 And in some of those private conversations, Donald Trump has admitted he lost the election.

00:43:56.000 So, in private.

00:43:58.000 But so there's an issue there, right?

00:44:01.000 I feel like a lot of the conversations, the left likes to play a semantic game.

00:44:07.000 The question is, what is the context of what is being said?

00:44:11.000 So, if Donald Trump behind the scenes says, I've lost, what does that mean in full?

00:44:18.000 Well, legally, it doesn't really mean anything, but.

00:44:20.000 But is he saying, they have out procedured me in a way that is illicit and wrong, but I cannot.

00:44:26.000 No, I think we're getting in the weeds here.

00:44:28.000 Or is he saying the people of America don't like me and have voted against me?

00:44:31.000 I think we're getting in the weeds here, Tim.

00:44:32.000 I think it's very simple with Donald Trump. 0.53

00:44:34.000 I think we all know that the man can't admit he loses at anything, he's a narcissist.

00:44:37.000 I think that's what this comes down to.

00:44:39.000 He doesn't care about election integrity.

00:44:41.000 He doesn't care about any of this stuff.

00:44:42.000 He just can't admit that he lost.

00:44:44.000 That's fine.

00:44:44.000 That's what it comes down to.

00:44:45.000 But there is a question of what is he referring to?

00:44:48.000 What did he lose?

00:44:49.000 Did he lose a procedural game against Democrats or did he lose the will of the American people?

00:44:53.000 There are two different questions.

00:44:54.000 I think you can make the argument maybe perhaps both.

00:44:56.000 I mean, listen, I'll take myself, for example.

00:44:59.000 My vote for Joe Biden was an anti Donald Trump vote.

00:45:01.000 Joe Biden wasn't my first, second, or third choice.

00:45:03.000 I'll say the same thing about Kamala Harris.

00:45:06.000 Going back to 2020.

00:45:08.000 Going back to 2020, I always hear the same argument for MAGA Republicans who claim that Trump won.

00:45:13.000 He got 81 million votes.

00:45:15.000 Well, let me tell you something.

00:45:16.000 A lot of those votes were anti Donald Trump votes.

00:45:19.000 Now, I don't think Joe Biden was a horrible president.

00:45:22.000 I don't think Joe Biden is a bad guy.

00:45:24.000 But I can tell you a lot of people voted for Joe Biden, especially in the pandemic during that time, because he was an anti Trump voter.

00:45:31.000 Let's come to today.

00:45:33.000 Trump doesn't spread any propaganda.

00:45:35.000 Well, he doesn't have six different stations on your face all day. 1.00

00:45:38.000 He doesn't have musical artists talking shit all day. 1.00

00:45:40.000 He doesn't have the actors talking shit all day. 1.00

00:45:42.000 Okay, okay, okay. 0.99

00:45:43.000 Kid Rock is one person.

00:45:44.000 You're going to count Kid Rock or an entire Capitol Records?

00:45:47.000 I've been on Fox News, Newsmax, or OAN.

00:45:48.000 You've been on Fox News.

00:45:49.000 So you have three.

00:45:50.000 I've been on Fox News, OAN.

00:45:51.000 I've been on all of them, too.

00:45:52.000 I've been on all of them, too.

00:45:53.000 Fox News is a joke of a network.

00:45:55.000 I've been on all of them.

00:45:56.000 But you're talking the number one.

00:45:56.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:45:57.000 Okay.

00:45:58.000 The number one that everyone.

00:45:59.000 It doesn't matter.

00:46:00.000 You don't think Fox News is not a joke?

00:46:00.000 CNN's not a joke.

00:46:02.000 You don't think SBC is not a joke?

00:46:02.000 What are you talking about?

00:46:04.000 What are you talking about?

00:46:05.000 You don't think SBC is not a joke?

00:46:06.000 And you know what?

00:46:06.000 What are you talking about?

00:46:07.000 Didn't they just drop their lawsuit against the MyPillow guy?

00:46:10.000 No, no, no, no.

00:46:11.000 But didn Fox didn't admit any guilt.

00:46:12.000 They settled.

00:46:14.000 Why did they settle? 0.98

00:46:15.000 Because they were scared cowards. 0.94

00:46:18.000 They were scared cowards. 0.96

00:46:19.000 If they had waited like Mike Lindell, they would have dropped. 1.00

00:46:22.000 They were cowards too. 0.94

00:46:22.000 Did OAN settle? 0.94

00:46:23.000 Wait, wait, wait.

00:46:24.000 But Mike Lindell wasn't.

00:46:25.000 Did they drop it against Mike?

00:46:27.000 What happened to Mike?

00:46:28.000 Did he have to pay him?

00:46:29.000 Did he stand tall?

00:46:30.000 I'll answer that.

00:46:31.000 Did he stand tall and they dropped it? 1.00

00:46:32.000 I find it very interesting that the MyPillow drug addicted idiot that you're defending. 1.00

00:46:39.000 Oh, so now it matters when. 0.99

00:46:41.000 Did they drop the lawsuit against Mike?

00:46:43.000 Wait, I got to stop you there.

00:46:45.000 I got to stop you there.

00:46:46.000 I'm going to give credit to Hunter Biden for getting clean, and Mike Lindell deserves the exact same respect.

00:46:50.000 Fair point.

00:46:51.000 I still think Mike might be on something.

00:46:52.000 But anyway, with that being said, I don't think Lindell TV is at the level of some of the bigger networks.

00:46:58.000 I don't care about what I'm talking about, right?

00:47:01.000 I wouldn't say.

00:47:01.000 I'm talking about him personally.

00:47:03.000 All right, well, congratulations.

00:47:04.000 They went after him, so.

00:47:05.000 They ate people watching Lindell TV.

00:47:06.000 The point is.

00:47:07.000 Him personally stood tall, and then they dropped it.

00:47:10.000 Hold on.

00:47:10.000 The point that I was trying to make.

00:47:10.000 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

00:47:12.000 Lindell won.

00:47:12.000 Okay.

00:47:13.000 The point that I was trying to make is you use the term.

00:47:16.000 Propaganda.

00:47:18.000 I just interviewed Hunter Biden last week, okay?

00:47:20.000 The propaganda about his laptop and that he was with underage girls.

00:47:24.000 The propaganda we talk, you guys talk about barisma, but you don't want to talk about the billions of dollars that Donald Trump has made in a crypto scandal.

00:47:31.000 You don't want to talk about the $600 million government contract with Don Jr.

00:47:35.000 You don't want to talk about that stuff.

00:47:36.000 You can't.

00:47:37.000 But talk about Hunter Biden's paintings. 0.98

00:47:38.000 So if you want to hear the bullshit about propaganda, that's all you guys do. 0.81

00:47:42.000 Was Hunter Biden's laptop suppressed or no during the 2020 election? 0.97

00:47:46.000 What's in the laptop?

00:47:47.000 What did he do?

00:47:48.000 Don't answer a question for a question.

00:47:48.000 That's not what I asked you.

00:47:50.000 Tell me. 1.00

00:47:50.000 That's a women's question. 1.00

00:47:51.000 No, I'm asking you what that was. 0.98

00:47:53.000 No, no, who suppressed it?

00:47:53.000 So you don't think it was at all?

00:47:54.000 No, wait, hold on, hold on.

00:47:56.000 You don't think it was at all then?

00:47:57.000 Okay, tell me.

00:47:58.000 Facebook, FBI.

00:48:00.000 Facebook suppressed it.

00:48:01.000 I think.

00:48:02.000 Which would include Instagram.

00:48:03.000 Twitter at the time.

00:48:04.000 Twitter at the time, man.

00:48:05.000 Which was in the Twitter files.

00:48:06.000 So what's in the New York Times?

00:48:08.000 It doesn't matter, man.

00:48:09.000 It's about suppressing information to try to craft a narrative.

00:48:11.000 You could say the same thing.

00:48:12.000 You could say the same thing about the Epstein files?

00:48:14.000 Hold on.

00:48:15.000 No, they do matter because I was screaming about the Epstein files before it became cool for your side to actually care about people apparently.

00:48:21.000 Not true.

00:48:21.000 What are you talking about?

00:48:23.000 Not true.

00:48:23.000 You have to say it.

00:48:24.000 Give me all the leftists.

00:48:25.000 Give me the prominent leftists that talked about FC files before Trump said it was over.

00:48:29.000 I will gladly.

00:48:30.000 First of all, I don't speak for the left, okay?

00:48:33.000 I'm not, okay, but I'm going to tell you my personal.

00:48:36.000 Well, no, you're a far right wing person.

00:48:38.000 No, no, no.

00:48:39.000 You want me to speak for the right.

00:48:40.000 So I'm going to give you my personal opinion on the Epstein files, okay?

00:48:43.000 Here's what I will say every single Democrat voted to release the files recently.

00:48:48.000 Every single one.

00:48:49.000 Here's what I will say my personal opinion is on the Epstein files.

00:48:52.000 And I've been very consistent on this.

00:48:54.000 Even when Maxwell was facing trial, I said, I don't care whether it's somebody on the left or the right.

00:49:00.000 I don't care if it's Bill Clinton or Donald Trump.

00:49:03.000 Here's what we know right now.

00:49:05.000 All right, let me tell you guys.

00:49:06.000 The right was literally.

00:49:08.000 They were campaigning on this.

00:49:09.000 Remember the binders? 1.00

00:49:10.000 Remember Jack Vasobic and all these idiots with the binders out there? 1.00

00:49:10.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:49:13.000 How did that work out?

00:49:14.000 I want to make sure.

00:49:16.000 Okay, guys, let me throw some knowledge out there for the average person there who can learn about that Hunter Biden laptop and why I think it's very likely the man will not do a sit down interview with me.

00:49:25.000 I disagree.

00:49:25.000 I think he will.

00:49:26.000 We'll see.

00:49:27.000 What was relevant in the Hunter Biden laptop?

00:49:29.000 I did not care all that much about the illicit photos.

00:49:32.000 I mean, those call into question his character.

00:49:35.000 People made fun of his teeth because he was getting his teeth redone.

00:49:38.000 Initially, I will fully admit.

00:49:40.000 I did not know that that was actually dental work getting done.

00:49:43.000 I thought his teeth were actually just bad and he had messed them up.

00:49:45.000 And then people explained to me that photo of his teeth, it's because he's actually getting teeth work.

00:49:49.000 I was like, ah, okay.

00:49:50.000 A few things.

00:49:51.000 A crack would be good.

00:49:52.000 There was an email about a China deal in which he made a reference to 10% held by H for the big guy.

00:50:00.000 Tony Bobulinski did an interview where he basically said, this is money being held for the vice president at the time.

00:50:06.000 This is basically, we're doing backroom deals with these corporations.

00:50:11.000 The next issue, of course, is the issue of charisma.

00:50:13.000 Where we learned about Hunter Biden receiving money to be on the board of Burisma.

00:50:16.000 Now, the interesting thing is, this is deep political stuff that I think the American people need to reconcile and they don't want to.

00:50:25.000 And that is, the response from liberals over the Burisma issue was that this was all in line with U.S. foreign policy.

00:50:32.000 The fact that Joe Biden went to the president and said, if you don't fire the prosecutor, you're not getting a billion dollars, which is illegal.

00:50:39.000 But it didn't matter if it was legal or illegal because U.S. special interests, CIA, military, et cetera, wanted this to happen.

00:50:47.000 Big story.

00:50:48.000 It connects to everything, including Iran.

00:50:50.000 So I will keep it succinct.

00:50:52.000 Russia runs Gazprom gas pipelines through Ukraine.

00:50:55.000 They control about 20% of natural gas into Europe.

00:50:58.000 The past 20 years of conflict have largely been centered around getting cheaper gas into Europe for economic expansion.

00:51:03.000 We have been hindered, the West has been hindered in quite a many ways.

00:51:07.000 Assad blocked the Qatar Turkey pipeline.

00:51:09.000 Russia was controlling prices through Gazprom.

00:51:12.000 When we could not alleviate the pressures, Russia then starts running gas through Nord Stream.

00:51:19.000 And so the CIA blows that up. 0.80

00:51:22.000 It was actually a Ukrainian guy.

00:51:23.000 He's been indicted by the German authorities and is believed to have been at the behest of the US, the CIA, to stop Russia from winning favor over in Europe and putting them in a sphere of influence where Russia has more control.

00:51:35.000 We didn't like that.

00:51:36.000 Bashar al Assad, ousted largely because he aligned with Russia, would not allow these gas pipelines.

00:51:41.000 So, Hunter Biden, there's a former director of counterterror for the CIA on the board of Burisma as well.

00:51:46.000 People need to ask these questions.

00:51:48.000 Mykola Zlatchevsky is the founder of Burisma.

00:51:49.000 It's an energy company in Ukraine.

00:51:51.000 The purpose of this company.

00:51:53.000 It is to create a competitive mechanism by which the US can fight Russian gas power in Europe.

00:52:01.000 Hunter Biden's position on this was I would argue, of course, there's nepotism.

00:52:06.000 This guy's not getting this job without his dad being the vice president, but it's because they want to put in a high level American aligned insider in a foreign company so that Western and US influence over energy in Ukraine is controlled.

00:52:20.000 They can't put Joe Biden in there.

00:52:21.000 He's literally an elected official.

00:52:23.000 So they need people who are outside of government.

00:52:26.000 But are loyal to government and proven so that the West can control this influence.

00:52:30.000 So, you get a former director of counterterrorism and you get Hunter Biden.

00:52:35.000 Now, I'd love to talk to him about this because I'm sure he might just say something like, Well, I got a job and that's all it was.

00:52:40.000 Well, I did talk to him about it.

00:52:41.000 He gave me a different time frame as to when his father was not the president or the vice president.

00:52:46.000 But here's what I'll say in general terms about this I think there need to be laws and stricter laws put in place so that family members can't take advantage of who their father is or who their mother is in certain positions. 0.94

00:52:59.000 With that being said, yes, of Of course, he got the Burisma gig.

00:53:02.000 I think it was $50,000 a month, something about a month.

00:53:04.000 No, no, no.

00:53:06.000 Well, it's been reported at $80,000 a year.

00:53:09.000 Of course, he got that gig because of who his father is, of course.

00:53:12.000 With that being said, the levels of corruption that we've seen under Donald Trump are immeasurable.

00:53:19.000 I got to stop.

00:53:20.000 Jared Kushner $2.1 billion from the soundbites.

00:53:22.000 I'm going to stop you.

00:53:23.000 Because I'm bringing up this so that we can have a through line of this conversation around, like we're moving forward.

00:53:28.000 We absolutely can talk about Trump and all those things you want to say.

00:53:31.000 I don't want to get off this subject because we're talking about the Hunter Biden laptop.

00:53:34.000 Why it was relevant.

00:53:36.000 In the Hunter Biden laptop, and I even spoke to him about this.

00:53:39.000 This was when he was suffering from drug addiction.

00:53:41.000 Yes, there's stuff on there, some pictures that make him look great.

00:53:45.000 I'm trying to say this.

00:53:47.000 The reason why I don't want to derail instantly into what Trump has done to Kushner.

00:53:50.000 Okay, I'm happy to.

00:53:52.000 But again, I want to make the point, and I hope the American people understand this.

00:53:55.000 Well, not literally every single person, but those watching.

00:53:57.000 The U.S. government is doing these things all of the time.

00:54:00.000 Yes.

00:54:01.000 They're doing it under Obama, they're doing it under Bush, even Trump.

00:54:07.000 There is going to be.

00:54:08.000 Western operations that you will despise, that they are going to do, and it's going to make things better for you.

00:54:16.000 Now, here's the funny thing where I can wrap this up with a neat little bow. 0.93

00:54:20.000 The principal reason that people are pissed off, like this issue with Biden, and I gotta be honest, if they didn't bring gay communism into institutions, schools, movies, and otherwise, people are gonna be like, if you said, I'm saying literally, I'm not. 0.76

00:54:39.000 You're not wrong, but it's just.

00:54:41.000 Listen, listen.

00:54:44.000 If you go to a Trump supporter and the question you've got to ask yourself is, do people genuinely understand their own feelings?

00:54:50.000 And the answer is no, absolutely not.

00:54:52.000 This is why people don't have this ability to be introspective.

00:54:57.000 So when I talk to somebody and they say, I can't stand Joe Biden, I'm not going to listen to the words they're saying.

00:55:03.000 I'm going to look at their actions and I'm going to try and find the underlying causes of stress in their lives.

00:55:09.000 And typically you'll find that most people want to strike at a symbol of what they feel is causing them strife or oppression or something to that effect.

00:55:15.000 The left does it, the right does it.

00:55:17.000 So when you ask a Trump supporter and they're complaining about the Hunter Biden laptop, I'm going to pause.

00:55:22.000 I'm going to say to you, sir, do you really care that the United States deployed special assets and interests to control natural gas in Europe?

00:55:29.000 I think the answer is no.

00:55:31.000 So why are you mad at the Bidens?

00:55:32.000 They're going to find any reason to point out impropriety.

00:55:36.000 I agree. 0.95

00:55:36.000 And I'll say this it comes down to I went to watch my favorite movie and they made my favorite story and Anne Boleyn's novel, Black Gay Woman. 0.95

00:55:46.000 Star Wars sucks. 0.98

00:55:47.000 Why is everyone yelling at me? 0.99

00:55:48.000 I can't watch basketball anymore.

00:55:50.000 So, what happens is when someone watches the BLM riots, they say, Why are these people smashing and burning things down and no one's getting arrested?

00:55:58.000 These are the things that affect them on their daily life.

00:56:00.000 They want to play a video game, they're told they can't.

00:56:02.000 So, they built up this anger they feel because of what was directly impacting them. 0.91

00:56:08.000 Then, when someone comes to them and says, Those Bidens, they're all woke.

00:56:11.000 You know what Hunter Biden did too?

00:56:13.000 He was in Burisma.

00:56:14.000 And they're going to say, They are my enemies.

00:56:16.000 They have made things that I do not like.

00:56:18.000 So now I'm going to latch on to something that normally would not matter to me because it makes them my enemy.

00:56:22.000 But you would.

00:56:23.000 Similarly for Trump.

00:56:24.000 Going back to the Hunter Biden laptop real quickly and then we can move on.

00:56:27.000 But you had mentioned again the word propaganda. 1.00

00:56:29.000 I interviewed a woman who is a lunatic by the name of Tina Peters who just got out of jail. 0.99

00:56:34.000 Tina Peters, when I interviewed her a few weeks before she went to jail, claimed she had the hard drive of the Hunter Biden laptop. 1.00

00:56:40.000 Now, she is an absolute freaking lunatic. 0.90

00:56:43.000 But if you want to talk about propaganda, all the people out there, and listen, there are people that say things on the right and the left, obviously, that are not true, but that Hunter Biden was with underage Asian girls. 1.00

00:56:55.000 And I heard all this weird bullshit, okay? 0.96

00:56:58.000 I'm going to tell you something about Hunter Biden. 0.99

00:57:00.000 He's not a perfect man.

00:57:02.000 I've gotten a little chance to get to know him over the last few months or so.

00:57:06.000 And he is a smart guy who struggled through drug addiction.

00:57:09.000 And what he is doing now is admirable.

00:57:11.000 He is helping people that struggle with addiction.

00:57:14.000 He's admirable.

00:57:15.000 He's not perfect.

00:57:16.000 I'm sick of people calling them the Biden crime family.

00:57:19.000 But yet, the same people who go after Hunter Biden and go after the laptop and talk about Joe Biden are the people that don't want to talk about the $2.1 billion that Jared Kushner took.

00:57:28.000 But what about the levels of corruption?

00:57:31.000 I want consistency.

00:57:32.000 As do I?

00:57:34.000 That's the point.

00:57:35.000 Consistency.

00:57:37.000 When January 6th happened, everyone was an insurrectionist.

00:57:40.000 No one wanted to look into it.

00:57:41.000 This is all.

00:57:41.000 Hold on.

00:57:42.000 No, I'm going through the whole thing.

00:57:44.000 This may not have been you, but I'm telling you from sitting on this side of the fence, when you're looking and everything, everything was negative for Trump and something just like the laptop to go, at the very least, the lowest level, why are they censoring this stuff?

00:57:59.000 Let's go back to COVID.

00:58:00.000 Hey, man, I heard before everything came out, I heard like these Indian doctors had a report.

00:58:06.000 Taken off the internet because it was showing what really happened and you couldn't say anything.

00:58:10.000 And one side was like, well, as long as I wear the mask and take the shot, I'm the good guy.

00:58:14.000 You guys don't deserve to go to restaurants.

00:58:15.000 Operation Warp Speed, is that a good thing?

00:58:18.000 I don't really care because I don't care.

00:58:20.000 You voted for Donald Trump.

00:58:20.000 No, I know.

00:58:21.000 I'm just curious what you're an anti vaxxer, right?

00:58:23.000 Yeah.

00:58:23.000 Well, not a necessary anti vaxxer.

00:58:25.000 I just didn't believe in that thing that came out of nowhere and didn't isolate the virus itself.

00:58:29.000 So don't take it.

00:58:29.000 I didn't.

00:58:30.000 So what's the problem?

00:58:30.000 Okay.

00:58:31.000 You shouldn't have just been inside something because I didn't take it.

00:58:34.000 But wait, wait.

00:58:34.000 It was mandated.

00:58:35.000 Well, I was, first of all, did they force J6ers in jail to get it? 1.00

00:58:39.000 In jail, they did. 1.00

00:58:39.000 Yeah, they made it this crazy. 1.00

00:58:41.000 In general terms, I almost died of COVID, but in general terms, I've never been pro mandate.

00:58:46.000 I've also, my personal opinion, tell me if you disagree with this personal opinion.

00:58:49.000 I know we're getting into another topic here, but I've always said this should be a personal decision between your personal physician who knows your medical history.

00:58:56.000 As you know, in this country, two thirds of people in this country have comorbidities.

00:59:00.000 It's horrible.

00:59:00.000 A lot of people that are very unhealthy.

00:59:02.000 I've never said that you should be forced to be vaccinated.

00:59:05.000 But here's my issue, and I think we will agree on this.

00:59:08.000 You shouldn't be telling other people what to do.

00:59:10.000 Don't chastise someone because they are vaccinated.

00:59:12.000 I'm a type 1 juvenile diabetic.

00:59:14.000 And again, I'm not saying you did that.

00:59:15.000 No, but.

00:59:16.000 But I almost got.

00:59:17.000 He blamed you personally for his diabetes, yeah.

00:59:20.000 That's the debate.

00:59:21.000 I've been called diabetic before.

00:59:21.000 I did.

00:59:23.000 Wait, wait, you got to be careful.

00:59:24.000 What if he finds a time that goes back?

00:59:25.000 By the way, I'll give this pickup line to Ian.

00:59:28.000 Ian, good pickup line.

00:59:30.000 You're so sweet, you gave me diabetes.

00:59:31.000 Thank you.

00:59:31.000 Very good pickup line.

00:59:34.000 Anyway.

00:59:34.000 Taking that one home with me.

00:59:35.000 Listen, I've been very concerned on that, right?

00:59:38.000 You know, nobody should have been forced to have taken the jab.

00:59:40.000 However, don't chastise others for getting vaccinated.

00:59:43.000 You know, I've debated Trump supporters before.

00:59:46.000 Get the vaccine, you liberal.

00:59:46.000 But the chastisers.

00:59:49.000 And I said, Well, guess what? 1.00

00:59:50.000 Trump got vaccinated, you idiot. 1.00

00:59:51.000 I mean, these people are so bad. 1.00

00:59:53.000 Here's the difference.

00:59:54.000 Here's the difference.

00:59:55.000 People lost their jobs because they didn't.

00:59:58.000 And no support from the average person, the average person who should be like, Dude, you can't fire Joe.

01:00:04.000 Joe's one of my workers.

01:00:06.000 He's my homie.

01:00:07.000 If he doesn't want to take it, that's his right.

01:00:09.000 That's not what happened.

01:00:10.000 It was get them out of here. 0.96

01:00:11.000 They're pariahs, people holding signs, put them in gas chambers.

01:00:14.000 So if you own a business.

01:00:15.000 This is the thing that was going on.

01:00:16.000 So if you own a business, you don't think you should have the right to do that.

01:00:20.000 You should have the right if you own a business.

01:00:21.000 No, no, if you own a business.

01:00:22.000 No, I don't think you should.

01:00:23.000 Not for employees because that's.

01:00:24.000 I'm just asking you.

01:00:25.000 No, not for employees because under most state constitutions, including ours, you can't discriminate based on what you're wearing.

01:00:30.000 So during the pandemic, when I was at a radio station, I had to do my show out of my apartment and nobody was allowed in the radio station.

01:00:38.000 My personal opinion is if you own a restaurant, you can kick somebody out for wearing a MAGA hat if you want to.

01:00:44.000 Not in D.C.

01:00:45.000 Well, in certain places.

01:00:46.000 No, no, but D.C. is the one place.

01:00:47.000 It's wild.

01:00:48.000 But for the most part, you can kick someone out if you don't like their shirt.

01:00:51.000 Yeah, yeah, you can not sell service.

01:00:52.000 Yeah.

01:00:53.000 So I'm kind of like.

01:00:54.000 Not employment.

01:00:55.000 My opinion is if you're running your own business, you can do things the way you want to do as long as you're not like.

01:00:59.000 Discriminate.

01:01:00.000 Wait, wait, wait.

01:01:01.000 This is where the propaganda came in, though.

01:01:03.000 All the major news stations, except even Fox, jumped in there.

01:01:07.000 If you take this, then this will happen, will be good for society.

01:01:11.000 Those who don't take this is getting in the way.

01:01:14.000 CNN, MSNBC, Fox News.

01:01:16.000 I can, Fox News even said that.

01:01:17.000 Ben Shapiro.

01:01:18.000 There was Ben Shapiro, who at the time I was like, what the hell is this?

01:01:21.000 So here's the thing.

01:01:21.000 Here's my response to that.

01:01:22.000 Okay, real quickly.

01:01:23.000 Let me get the vaccine.

01:01:24.000 Let me just. 1.00

01:01:25.000 He's like, you're stupid if you don't. 1.00

01:01:26.000 And I'm like, wait a second, bro. 1.00

01:01:27.000 Benjamin Netanyahu could bomb every country in the world and I'll support it.

01:01:30.000 What are we doing?

01:01:31.000 Anyway, let me get the vaccine.

01:01:33.000 I love you, Ben.

01:01:34.000 Listen, you're coming.

01:01:35.000 You know, your experience on January 6th, you're obviously very passionate about.

01:01:38.000 Okay, I'm giving you my experience on COVID, right?

01:01:41.000 And there's a reason why I'm saying this.

01:01:42.000 You know, before the first vaccine came out, I almost died.

01:01:45.000 I was in the ICU for two weeks.

01:01:47.000 I got the vaccine after that, got COVID a couple more times.

01:01:49.000 I had the sniffles, right?

01:01:50.000 It saved my life.

01:01:51.000 That's my personal, you know, story on it.

01:01:55.000 But here's what I've been very happy for you, guys.

01:01:56.000 Thank you.

01:01:57.000 I've been very consistent on this.

01:01:58.000 You paralyzed, Brandon.

01:02:00.000 This, the world wasn't ready for this, okay?

01:02:02.000 I had a problem with the way Donald Trump handled it.

01:02:05.000 Example, Herman Cain.

01:02:06.000 Let's talk about him for a moment.

01:02:07.000 I've interviewed Herman Kane, he was a really nice guy.

01:02:10.000 So, Donald Trump was holding these rallies when we were losing 2,000 to 3,000 people a day.

01:02:14.000 He made, or his people in his group, made people sign waivers basically saying that if you got COVID, you can't sue us, right?

01:02:22.000 Herman Kane is a guy who suffered through cancer and survived it.

01:02:25.000 He wasn't wearing a mask, went to one of his rallies, got COVID, died a week or two later.

01:02:31.000 I believe during that time that was very irresponsible.

01:02:34.000 Now, I'm not saying everything was perfect, I'm not saying masks were, but here's the last thing I'll say on this and I'll land my plane here. 0.96

01:02:41.000 I don't listen to idiots on CNN or Fox News that don't have any medical credentials at all telling me what I should do with my life when it comes to that stuff. 0.96

01:02:51.000 No, no, hold on, hold on. 1.00

01:02:51.000 A lot of them did have medical. 1.00

01:02:52.000 Hold on.

01:02:53.000 A lot of them sent people off.

01:02:54.000 Okay, okay, hold on.

01:02:55.000 But no, no, no, no.

01:02:56.000 But guys, guys, guys, okay, okay.

01:02:58.000 The problem is not Donald Trump making statements.

01:03:01.000 It's Dr. Peter McCullough.

01:03:03.000 It is Dr. Drew.

01:03:05.000 It is Robert Malone. 1.00

01:03:06.000 Who's that African chick that was literally like ruined her career? 1.00

01:03:10.000 There are medical doctors. 1.00

01:03:12.000 That came out, and guess what we've learned since then?

01:03:14.000 They were correct.

01:03:15.000 In fact, Nature.com.

01:03:17.000 So, this is a Nature.com article that caused a splash back in April.

01:03:21.000 mRNA vaccine immunity is enhanced by hepatocyte detargeting and not dependent on dendritic cell expression.

01:03:28.000 In layman's terms, there were a few questions that came out during COVID pertaining to the vaccine around myocarditis, pericarditis, immunity itself.

01:03:37.000 One of the big areas of contention was that I think, you know, the famous Rachel Maddow clip where she goes, What we know now is that if you get this thing, it stops with you.

01:03:44.000 That's it.

01:03:45.000 Well, that was wrong.

01:03:46.000 This is important because it evolved from the vaccine will stop it to it's 90% effective, it's 80% effective.

01:03:46.000 Indeed, it was wrong.

01:03:52.000 When it turns out, actually, this study shows it was not effective at all.

01:03:56.000 What this study shows is a couple of things.

01:03:59.000 The mRNA vaccine technology could not target, it's called addressing.

01:04:03.000 So the idea is this.

01:04:05.000 Initially, they were hopeful.

01:04:07.000 We got a lot to talk about.

01:04:08.000 Let's go back in time.

01:04:09.000 They've been researching mRNA technologies for decades.

01:04:11.000 They've never been able to figure out what's called addressing.

01:04:14.000 That is, if you're going to deliver RNA sequences through fatty lipid particles, you need them to target specific cells so that they work, but they don't know how to do it.

01:04:26.000 That's why they've never actually rolled this technology out, and they've been working on it since the 80s.

01:04:31.000 So, what happens is, initially, they say you get the vaccine in your arm, the vaccine stays in your arm, targets the muscles.

01:04:38.000 The muscles will receive RNA, which programs them to produce spike protein.

01:04:42.000 White blood cells will then attack those cells, destroy them.

01:04:45.000 And create an immunity to the spike protein, which will then, when the coronavirus comes into your system, the white blood cells will see the spike proteins and attack them.

01:04:52.000 The problem they couldn't actually guarantee addressing of the mRNA vaccine.

01:04:57.000 What happened?

01:04:58.000 The vaccine would spread through the body.

01:05:00.000 One big outcome, according to Stanford, was that it would target heart muscle cells.

01:05:04.000 And this would then cause heart muscle cells to produce spike protein, and then it would cause the body's immune system to attack heart cells, resulting in myocarditis and pericarditis.

01:05:14.000 According to Stanford, the rate at which we now know Men 30 and under received myo and pericarditis was one in 16,750.

01:05:23.000 That is not a rare side effect.

01:05:24.000 Common side effects are called one in 300,000.

01:05:27.000 That's common.

01:05:28.000 So, what is it when it's one in 16,000?

01:05:32.000 So, we were seeing a wave.

01:05:33.000 Now, here's the scary thing myo and pericarditis are typically believed to shorten lifespan by about seven years on average per person.

01:05:42.000 So, we saw massive amounts of this.

01:05:45.000 I have family members personally affected by this.

01:05:48.000 Now, it gets scarier.

01:05:49.000 Brian, this one's important for you with nature.com.

01:05:52.000 What they found was if the mRNA vaccine traveled out of the muscle, which it did in most people because they could not address it properly, if it got into the liver, it did the inverse and made you more likely to get COVID multiple times.

01:06:09.000 When the mRNA hit liver cells, it told the body to tolerate the spike protein.

01:06:15.000 And thus, people kept getting COVID over and over again.

01:06:17.000 Now, the crazy thing is there was a conspiracy theory that people had these people who were these doctors who were called crazy whack jobs.

01:06:26.000 If you got the vaccine, you were more likely to get COVID.

01:06:29.000 And they said, that's insane.

01:06:31.000 Now, they made the argument first it was going to stop it.

01:06:33.000 Then they said it was 90% effective, 80%.

01:06:36.000 There were doctors saying, no, if you get this, you're going to get COVID more.

01:06:39.000 And they said, now that's just crazy.

01:06:41.000 It may not stop it perfectly for everybody, but they said it would reduce the severity of symptoms.

01:06:45.000 We now know Nature.com.

01:06:48.000 This is a huge, huge study that freaked everybody out.

01:06:51.000 If the mRNA went into your liver, you are going to get COVID more forever.

01:06:56.000 Yeah, but that Stanford study, I believe that you are.

01:07:00.000 Referring to also said in that study that if you get COVID, you are 10 times more likely to get myocarditis.

01:07:06.000 That is what they also said.

01:07:07.000 Now, combine it with this you are more likely to get COVID if it affects your liver cells.

01:07:07.000 100%.

01:07:15.000 Which is more likely to cause myocarditis.

01:07:17.000 Here's what I would say in general terms, right?

01:07:20.000 And I think we all could agree on this.

01:07:22.000 Every vaccine that you take has its risks, perhaps some more than others.

01:07:27.000 Completely agree.

01:07:28.000 But we're talking about media and government lying to the American people.

01:07:30.000 Yes.

01:07:31.000 That's the part, bro.

01:07:32.000 Well, again, that's the big part.

01:07:33.000 Like all the people that said, Hey, I don't trust this thing.

01:07:37.000 So many from doctors to our own government.

01:07:41.000 So you can't even participate.

01:07:43.000 Like, you guys, let's throw the science out the window.

01:07:43.000 Can I just say something else?

01:07:46.000 Let's, let's, we're sitting here arguing hepatocyte detargeting.

01:07:49.000 Like, what does it even mean?

01:07:50.000 Let me just tell you a story.

01:07:51.000 My wife and I went to Frederick, Maryland to get some sushi.

01:07:55.000 Now, the crazy thing is, we, so COVID starts, we're in Jersey, and I largely, you notice it a little bit, but I'm in the suburbs.

01:08:03.000 So we have a backyard, I go outside.

01:08:05.000 When I want to go to Walmart across the street, we go to Walmart across the street.

01:08:08.000 There's weird lines, but for the most part, nothing's really going on.

01:08:11.000 We end up moving out here.

01:08:13.000 So, and this is like 2021, I think.

01:08:15.000 It's crazy how long this went on.

01:08:17.000 We go to get sushi.

01:08:18.000 It is a very small sushi restaurant in Frederick.

01:08:21.000 You walk up the side of the building up a ramp.

01:08:23.000 We walk in the front door.

01:08:24.000 We're not wearing masks.

01:08:26.000 And there is, right when you walk in to the host stand, there is a table three feet next to us, and no one is wearing masks eating their food.

01:08:35.000 And I walk up and I say, two.

01:08:38.000 And then he goes, okay.

01:08:39.000 And he grabs menus and goes, you need to put your masks on.

01:08:41.000 And I said, Nobody's wearing masks.

01:08:44.000 And they were like, No, you have to wear a mask.

01:08:45.000 And I said, I'm sorry, I don't understand.

01:08:47.000 Like, just us or like genuinely confused?

01:08:51.000 And he was like, You have to wear a mask.

01:08:54.000 And I said, Can I just sit right down in this chair next to me and not wear the mask?

01:08:59.000 And then they were like, No, you have to put the mask on.

01:09:01.000 And then I said, Are you kidding me?

01:09:04.000 And all of the staff went, No.

01:09:06.000 And then I was like, We're leaving. 1.00

01:09:09.000 How fucking retarded was this country? 1.00

01:09:14.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:09:14.000 And this is the Democrat, this is the media. 1.00

01:09:17.000 What is going on?

01:09:18.000 Guys, there was no one wearing masks sitting down.

01:09:21.000 Not a single person.

01:09:22.000 And there was a chair next to me that said, I will sit down right now.

01:09:25.000 I don't want to put a mask on and take it off.

01:09:26.000 What am I going to do like that?

01:09:28.000 That makes literally no sense.

01:09:29.000 That's the problem.

01:09:30.000 This was psychotic. 0.93

01:09:31.000 Psychotic.

01:09:32.000 And the fact that there is one side that doesn't seem to want to go, yeah, that was messed up.

01:09:36.000 Like, we shouldn't have done that.

01:09:37.000 I mean, I could give you examples of the other side as well.

01:09:40.000 You're saying one side.

01:09:42.000 Are there chips in the vaccines that the government put chips?

01:09:44.000 Did the government put chips in the vaccine?

01:09:47.000 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

01:09:47.000 Hold on.

01:09:48.000 On the other side of USC, I think.

01:09:49.000 That's not an argument because nobody was mandating you not get the vaccine because they had chips in the vaccine.

01:09:54.000 I want to walk the floor.

01:09:54.000 This is a private business while I disagree with their behavior and sanity.

01:09:59.000 No, stop.

01:10:01.000 This was an unconstitutional mandate by executives in Frederick and Maryland.

01:10:06.000 It was not a law.

01:10:08.000 I'm sorry.

01:10:09.000 It was not a law and it wasn't a private business.

01:10:11.000 The business didn't want to do this.

01:10:14.000 They were forced to under duress by threat.

01:10:16.000 And this is what you've got to understand.

01:10:18.000 This was.

01:10:19.000 Executive, this was executive mandate, not law.

01:10:23.000 This was a governor saying, do it or else.

01:10:26.000 So here's my opinion on that.

01:10:29.000 First of all, I actually.

01:10:32.000 Is that just wrong?

01:10:33.000 Before we get into it, is that just wrong?

01:10:35.000 I think it's wrong to attack people and businesses for being cautious.

01:10:39.000 No, no, no.

01:10:40.000 Is it wrong to.

01:10:41.000 I am not attacking a business.

01:10:43.000 Hold on, wait, wait, wait.

01:10:44.000 I am not.

01:10:45.000 It's not a law.

01:10:46.000 It wasn't a law.

01:10:47.000 I am not attacking a business.

01:10:48.000 Who made the decision then?

01:10:49.000 The governor, they put the weight on the governor of Maryland mandates.

01:10:53.000 Yeah, so this is what we saw.

01:10:55.000 They said, state of emergency mandate.

01:10:57.000 I am not blaming the business because the police threatened them. 1.00

01:11:00.000 I am blaming the fascistic government that said, do stupid things. 0.98

01:11:04.000 How California would shut down businesses, they would sit there and find businesses who didn't want to follow their covet mandates and then tell them and then shut them down. 0.99

01:11:13.000 And so, if they try to open up, they would come back and go, wait, wait, wait, wait, hold on.

01:11:16.000 Do you remember there was a restaurant in California?

01:11:16.000 Do you remember?

01:11:18.000 Yes, the guy who's parked his truck in front of the no, no, no, there was a woman who had a restaurant, she made a video.

01:11:24.000 She said, they told us we can't allow people inside.

01:11:27.000 So we set up tents outside in our parking lot.

01:11:29.000 And they said, you can't do that either.

01:11:31.000 And then across the street, Hollywood Production had craft services tents for their family.

01:11:35.000 Let me ask you both the questions.

01:11:36.000 Insane.

01:11:37.000 Let me ask you both the questions.

01:11:38.000 I will.

01:11:38.000 Everyone will.

01:11:39.000 To try to figure out where we stand here, okay?

01:11:40.000 Because I think we can go to extremes on both sides.

01:11:43.000 Not in the end.

01:11:43.000 Hold on a second.

01:11:44.000 Let me ask you both the questions.

01:11:45.000 So at the time when the peak of this, when I think we were losing somewhere around 4,000 to 5,000 people a day, that was the peak, do you think that would have been an appropriate time to have 60,000 people in a stadium watching a football game, not wearing masks?

01:11:57.000 Nothing.

01:11:58.000 If they so choose.

01:11:59.000 If they chose.

01:12:00.000 Okay, well, I disagree with you.

01:12:01.000 It's a choice.

01:12:01.000 I disagree.

01:12:02.000 What was the death?

01:12:03.000 What was the morbidity rate, mortality rate for COVID?

01:12:06.000 Those who died in COVID.

01:12:07.000 No, In general, what is the mortality rate?

01:12:09.000 So, obviously, these were usually older people, not younger people, people that had comorbidities.

01:12:14.000 No, no, what was the mortality rate?

01:12:15.000 I don't know.

01:12:16.000 I don't have the exact stat in front of me.

01:12:17.000 I don't know.

01:12:17.000 It was twice that of the flu.

01:12:19.000 Wasn't that zero or something?

01:12:19.000 Yeah.

01:12:22.000 So, 0.03.

01:12:22.000 It was 0.2 or 2.

01:12:24.000 I thought it was a lot more than that.

01:12:25.000 No.

01:12:26.000 And initially, what are y'all doing?

01:12:28.000 That's the perfect thing.

01:12:28.000 That's right there.

01:12:30.000 I thought it was a lot more, but that's what they were doing.

01:12:32.000 So, how many people did we lose?

01:12:33.000 0.3.

01:12:34.000 How many people did we lose from the flu every year on average?

01:12:38.000 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

01:12:38.000 Hold on.

01:12:39.000 I got you.

01:12:40.000 Just to get the facts straight.

01:12:43.000 For the, I don't know what they call this, the age stratified, meaning if you are above a certain age or below a certain age, the mortality rate was between less than 0.01 for people under 40, upwards of 0.1.

01:12:58.000 For those that were over 70, it was between 5 and 20%.

01:13:02.000 Right. 0.85

01:13:03.000 So this was largely a virus of the elderly.

01:13:06.000 Oh, that would be with the flu as well.

01:13:08.000 And that would be in general with any sickness.

01:13:10.000 If you're under the age of 40, you have a much better chance.

01:13:13.000 By the way, the doctors told me.

01:13:15.000 They said this to me when I was in the ICU.

01:13:17.000 They said, Brian, if you weren't in your 30s, I think I was like somewhere around 40, late 30s.

01:13:23.000 They told me, they said, if you were in your 60s, you would not have made it.

01:13:26.000 So I think that's rather obvious, right?

01:13:27.000 Your immune system is going to be stronger.

01:13:30.000 So that doesn't surprise me at all.

01:13:32.000 But this was a, let's just be clear here.

01:13:34.000 This was a very deadly virus that killed millions of people.

01:13:37.000 That's not the point.

01:13:38.000 So just real quick, Brian, the point was like when someone, anyone said opposite the narrative, you were cut out of polite society.

01:13:45.000 That was the problem.

01:13:47.000 That's it.

01:13:48.000 I'm not saying that if somebody wanted, if you wanted to get shot up all day, dude, go ahead.

01:13:52.000 If I go, you know what?

01:13:53.000 I don't know if I trust this thing they just came out with last week and they hadn't isolated the virus.

01:13:58.000 Here's the point.

01:13:58.000 Should I still be able to go to the movie theater?

01:14:00.000 If I want to, shouldn't Gavin Newsom not sit there and go, we're shutting you down?

01:14:03.000 Shouldn't San Francisco not allow 74% of all population to die?

01:14:06.000 Never.

01:14:07.000 How many more people do you think would have died if everything was open?

01:14:07.000 Never.

01:14:10.000 I don't know.

01:14:10.000 Honestly, it probably, honestly, it probably been more like Sweden where they did herd immunity and they let people be and their death rate was, Completely plummeted.

01:14:19.000 We had one of the worst death rates, correct me if I'm wrong, in the world.

01:14:23.000 Because we kept people away from the sun.

01:14:26.000 Vitamin D was a big fighter of this.

01:14:28.000 And we told people to stay inside and cover your face and breathe into your own.

01:14:32.000 It's not.

01:14:33.000 That's insane.

01:14:35.000 That's insane.

01:14:35.000 Is it not?

01:14:36.000 I've maintained the same opinion that I always have, which is this infectious disease doctors, my personal physicians, while they're not always going to be right, I will certainly listen to those that have the medical experience and idiots on them. 0.96

01:14:50.000 In the media, people that have no medical experience at all. Doesn't mean they're always going to be right. 0.75

01:14:55.000 Clearly, there were mistakes made.

01:14:56.000 And by the way, if you want to go toward politically the mistakes that were made and people that were saying things or using COVID press conferences and using them as campaign rallies, I'm happy to go into that with you as well and Donald Trump's failings.

01:15:08.000 But I will say this there were a lot of mistakes made all over the world, including the United States.

01:15:13.000 We were not ready for a global pandemic.

01:15:16.000 A lot of mistakes were made.

01:15:17.000 A lot of lives were lost.

01:15:18.000 I think we all know somebody that died of COVID.

01:15:20.000 And it's tragic.

01:15:21.000 It's horrible.

01:15:22.000 I don't.

01:15:22.000 We know people.

01:15:24.000 And states, we saw the results and decided not to follow that.

01:15:27.000 We saw what Sweden did, and they came out with papers.

01:15:29.000 Who was the person who left it up to the states?

01:15:32.000 They're like, nah, it was Trump.

01:15:33.000 No, that's not true.

01:15:35.000 That's not true.

01:15:36.000 You're wrong.

01:15:38.000 Thomas Jefferson.

01:15:40.000 I'm not kidding.

01:15:42.000 Had a couple of fact checks.

01:15:43.000 The federal law doesn't have the ability to go in and tell a state how their executive is supposed to handle things like that.

01:15:48.000 The doctor that I've mentioned earlier, the African American physician that was banned across, Dr. Stella Emanuel.

01:15:53.000 Is that the demon sperm doctor? 0.54

01:15:55.000 I don't know. 0.99

01:15:56.000 Yes, I believe so. 0.93

01:15:57.000 Is that the one who believed in demon sperm? 0.97

01:15:58.000 Yeah, yeah. 0.98

01:15:59.000 Hopefully.

01:15:59.000 Very credible.

01:16:00.000 The United States also did have the highest raw number of COVID deaths annually, upwards of 900,000.

01:16:05.000 Most of it was from two years into the pandemic.

01:16:08.000 The United States had the highest raw number of COVID deaths globally, surpassing 180,000 by 2020 of August and approaching 900,000 two years into the pandemic.

01:16:18.000 However, when adjusted for population, it was about equivalent to global deaths.

01:16:22.000 We had more than China. 0.90

01:16:24.000 Well, according to the numbers, China didn't really really trust the nation properly. 0.52

01:16:27.000 Here's the question about that.

01:16:28.000 How many, and I would love for you to check it out, how many had to revise that number of deaths because they were targeting multiple deaths?

01:16:34.000 People with.

01:16:35.000 Yeah.

01:16:35.000 There was a famous case with that you died.

01:16:37.000 You got in a motorcycle accident.

01:16:38.000 Exactly.

01:16:39.000 A motorcycle accident in Illinois.

01:16:41.000 This was publicly stated by their chief medical officer and the governor.

01:16:44.000 They said, You need to understand the listed COVID deaths are not from, but with.

01:16:49.000 And they explicitly stated, A man died in a motorcycle crash.

01:16:53.000 He tested positive for COVID.

01:16:54.000 That is a COVID death.

01:16:56.000 Well, again, if you want to talk about propaganda in the network that you've been on Fox News, Peter Navarro was just on Fox News the other day and just blatantly said, Dr. Fauci created COVID.

01:17:09.000 Now.

01:17:10.000 Yeah, didn't that come out in Tulsi Gabbard?

01:17:12.000 But he did.

01:17:12.000 No, yeah.

01:17:13.000 Yeah, but he did.

01:17:14.000 He's the one.

01:17:15.000 Not from Tulsi.

01:17:16.000 This was three years ago.

01:17:17.000 Yeah, the news came out.

01:17:18.000 Intentionally created this virus.

01:17:21.000 You didn't know that.

01:17:22.000 Well, listen.

01:17:22.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

01:17:23.000 This is not three years ago.

01:17:26.000 This is testified by people working in NIH, is it?

01:17:32.000 No.

01:17:33.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:17:33.000 Am I in NIH?

01:17:34.000 Outright.

01:17:34.000 Should he go to jail?

01:17:36.000 No, because, okay, first of all, Fauci should go to jail for lying to Congress.

01:17:41.000 That's been stated.

01:17:42.000 Newsweek reported that.

01:17:44.000 Years ago, this story was already confirmed.

01:17:47.000 The US was providing funding to the Wuhan Coronavirus Laboratory, which ultimately resulted in the creation of COVID.

01:17:53.000 Now, there's a question of did Fauci intentionally create what is called COVID 19 for the purpose of.

01:17:58.000 No, no, no, no.

01:17:59.000 They were doing gain of function.

01:18:00.000 This is what we have definitively.

01:18:02.000 They were doing gain of function research.

01:18:04.000 It resulted in the creation of various coronaviruses.

01:18:07.000 One of them was accidentally leaked from that lab, which becomes COVID 19.

01:18:11.000 This was intentionally created.

01:18:13.000 Now, the question is did they make a biweapon to kill people? 0.85

01:18:16.000 Was there a big conspiracy?

01:18:17.000 We're not anywhere there.

01:18:18.000 We're not anywhere there.

01:18:19.000 Where we are is Dr. Fauci oversaw NIH providing funding to EcoHealth and these other organizations, which were then helping to fund when.

01:18:28.000 So it's circuitous.

01:18:29.000 That is the language that is a little bit different than the language that Navarro used on Fox News.

01:18:33.000 Okay, listen.

01:18:34.000 Wait, wait, real quick. 0.96

01:18:35.000 When Fauci was asked, and this is what I really, really love, I love this because it's just semantic retardation. 0.98

01:18:41.000 When he was asked by Rand Paul, Did you fund gain of function research? 0.99

01:18:45.000 Fauci goes, We did not fund gain of function research in Wuhan.

01:18:49.000 What we did was we.

01:18:51.000 Brought in viruses and gained them functions.

01:18:54.000 I'm not kidding.

01:18:55.000 Imagine this.

01:18:57.000 And literally, watch his statement.

01:18:58.000 That's why people are saying you should go to jail.

01:19:00.000 Imagine if someone said, If you ask me, Tim, is there a door to this studio?

01:19:05.000 And I would, There's absolutely no door to this studio.

01:19:08.000 What this studio has is a porthole with a wooden obstacle and a hinge that prevents it from being moved without someone activating a mechanical device.

01:19:17.000 That's what Fauci did.

01:19:18.000 He said, We didn't fund gain of function research.

01:19:20.000 What we did was we fund the isolation of viruses through various species.

01:19:24.000 And then had those viruses be gained functions by reproducing those viruses.

01:19:28.000 And Rand Paul was like, You are literally describing gain of function research.

01:19:33.000 In fact, he held up a piece of paper that said, Here's you in your paperwork saying you are funding gain of function research.

01:19:39.000 And Fauci's like, I remember that.

01:19:41.000 And then Rand Paul campaigned off of that and fundraised off of it.

01:19:44.000 I do remember that.

01:19:45.000 And the DOJ can't do anything because Joe Biden pardoned that man for everything for 11 years.

01:19:52.000 So here's the point all the deaths you're talking about, whether he meant to do it or not, who's responsible?

01:19:58.000 You think that he, well, I'm asking you, do you think he wanted to do that?

01:20:01.000 That's not the case.

01:20:03.000 Yes.

01:20:03.000 If he did, that's, again, not the case.

01:20:05.000 No, no, but let me clarify.

01:20:05.000 I would say.

01:20:06.000 What is the purpose of creating a Frankenstein virus?

01:20:10.000 I am not suggesting Fauci was like, I'm going to release this and kill millions.

01:20:13.000 I'm saying he was like, I'm going to make a virus that'll kill millions. 0.99

01:20:16.000 Oh, crap, it got leaked. 0.99

01:20:17.000 There's a difference between I want to kill people, but I'm going to make a virus. 0.99

01:20:20.000 If you are responsible, if you create the thing and it kills millions, shouldn't we all call for that person to be held responsible?

01:20:27.000 Or lie to Congress about it?

01:20:29.000 Isn't that just a rational position? 0.87

01:20:31.000 Depends on who the millions are, because the H bomb, we didn't put those guys in jail. 0.81

01:20:35.000 That's what you're talking about. 0.95

01:20:36.000 They just killed the right millions.

01:20:38.000 We're in war.

01:20:39.000 No, no, I like that.

01:20:40.000 Who was in the war, you know? 0.75

01:20:42.000 They just killed the right millions. 0.80

01:20:43.000 I want to ask you a question.

01:20:44.000 I knew we were going into this, obviously, talking about Donald Trump, right?

01:20:44.000 Yeah, but that one was.

01:20:49.000 And we're talking about the coronavirus.

01:20:51.000 Yeah.

01:20:52.000 I believe that what he did when he was in office, I'd give him probably an F, maybe a D. What would you have done different?

01:20:59.000 I wanted to pick your brain on that.

01:21:00.000 What would he have done?

01:21:01.000 So I'll list a number of things and mistakes that he made.

01:21:05.000 Now, I mentioned the rallies he held, which I thought was inappropriate.

01:21:08.000 And they knew it was inappropriate because that's why they were having people sign waivers because they didn't want to be sued.

01:21:12.000 And people did die because of that.

01:21:15.000 When I was watching his coronavirus press conferences, and I believe probably we all were, right?

01:21:18.000 We were all locked up here.

01:21:21.000 Most of those press conferences were not giving people advice or telling people the seriousness of the virus, most of which he was just bitching and complaining about Joe Biden.

01:21:29.000 It felt like a campaign rally at those press conferences.

01:21:33.000 That's not what I saw.

01:21:34.000 That's not what you saw.

01:21:35.000 When I saw those, he was like, hey, did you inject yourself with disinfectant?

01:21:39.000 No, because he didn't say to.

01:21:40.000 Tell me to go do that.

01:21:41.000 He didn't tell me to go do that.

01:21:41.000 What did he say?

01:21:42.000 Ultra rays.

01:21:43.000 He's like, wait, wait, wait, wait.

01:21:46.000 Hold on, hold on.

01:21:47.000 No, no, I just can't do this.

01:21:49.000 Brian, you really got to use Google before you say stuff like this.

01:21:51.000 What did he say?

01:21:53.000 There is a UV device that they put in your lungs that fries viruses and bacteria.

01:21:58.000 And he used the term disinfectant. 0.90

01:21:59.000 And Trump is what I would describe as a sausage finger.

01:22:04.000 So when he said, when they said, what were they talking about?

01:22:08.000 They said, bleaching surfaces will kill these things.

01:22:08.000 Hydrogen, the bleach.

01:22:11.000 And you've realized he's like, I wonder if there's some kind of like light or disinfectant, maybe someone could take internally or inject that would blast you.

01:22:17.000 You see, Dr. Burks and the look she was giving when he was talking about it.

01:22:20.000 He did not literally say, You should go out there and inject it into your body.

01:22:23.000 I thought I was being facetious, but I remember that press conference very, very well.

01:22:28.000 And then the next day, Tim, what did he say when he was asked about it?

01:22:28.000 But here's the funny thing.

01:22:31.000 I don't know.

01:22:32.000 No, I know.

01:22:33.000 You should Google it.

01:22:33.000 Hold on.

01:22:34.000 The next day, he said he was just joking. 0.51

01:22:36.000 Because he's a sausage finger.

01:22:36.000 Why?

01:22:37.000 He was joking.

01:22:38.000 Okay, no, no, no, no.

01:22:39.000 That's very appropriate.

01:22:40.000 No, Because he was trying to keep things calm instead of getting, oh, He said it because he's bad at PR, okay? 0.99

01:22:51.000 Because what he should have said was because he asked a, I would call it a half stupid question. 0.97

01:22:57.000 I don't think it's stupid to ask a question when someone's talking about UV light therapy and disinfectants. 0.99

01:23:04.000 Can I respond to that?

01:23:05.000 Let me finish this point.

01:23:06.000 It's not stupid to say, is there a way we can use that inside the body? 0.61

01:23:11.000 And someone can say two things.

01:23:13.000 One, there are technologies that are being tested.

01:23:16.000 For throat viruses and lungs, where they will put UV light to kill the surface.

01:23:22.000 Donald Trump should have responded with, I was just asking a question.

01:23:25.000 I don't know. 1.00

01:23:26.000 Okay, so here's the stupid part. 0.99

01:23:27.000 First of all, if he wants to ask that question, you don't do it at the press conference. 0.99

01:23:31.000 You do it in private with Dr. Burks.

01:23:33.000 That's number one. 0.98

01:23:34.000 That's silly. 0.92

01:23:34.000 Number two. 0.92

01:23:36.000 That's not silly. 0.99

01:23:37.000 When he knows he says something stupid or maybe I shouldn't have said that, what does he do? 1.00

01:23:42.000 Sounds stupid. 1.00

01:23:42.000 I was just joking. 1.00

01:23:43.000 I agree. 1.00

01:23:44.000 He sounds stupid. 1.00

01:23:45.000 To your point, okay, to your point. 1.00

01:23:47.000 He was just joking, you just said.

01:23:48.000 He was not.

01:23:49.000 There was not one person in that room that smiled, including Donald Trump.

01:23:53.000 It wasn't meant as a joke. 1.00

01:23:55.000 He said something stupid, okay? 1.00

01:23:57.000 Now, if we want to argue it wasn't stupid or there was nothing wrong with him saying that, okay, fine. 1.00

01:24:01.000 That wasn't a joke. 0.99

01:24:02.000 That was him lying.

01:24:04.000 He wasn't lying.

01:24:04.000 He was literally like pointing out when he goes, Hey, isn't it a joke?

01:24:09.000 And you know why he came and said it was a joke?

01:24:11.000 Because you know why he went and said it was a joke?

01:24:11.000 Let's go with that.

01:24:13.000 Let's go with that. 1.00

01:24:13.000 Because low tease came out and started crying that he even wouldn't mention anything. 1.00

01:24:17.000 Instead of taking a moment and going, You know what?

01:24:19.000 That can't be real.

01:24:20.000 I'm just going to move on from it, dude.

01:24:21.000 I'm just going to move on from it.

01:24:23.000 I find this interesting.

01:24:24.000 This is what he does.

01:24:24.000 He says crazy stuff.

01:24:26.000 Trump was right.

01:24:29.000 Here we go.

01:24:29.000 Let me respond.

01:24:30.000 NIH, I got it for you.

01:24:31.000 Trump was right.

01:24:31.000 Let me just.

01:24:32.000 So hold on.

01:24:33.000 While you mock Trump, I will absolutely mock Trump for going.

01:24:37.000 I was just joking. 1.00

01:24:38.000 Shut up, Trump. 1.00

01:24:39.000 No, you weren't. 0.98

01:24:39.000 That being said, wow, I just pulled this up from 2021, where they literally did application of UV light in critically ill patients with severe acute respiratory syndrome, where they found that it did result in a reduction in respiratory SARS COVID 2 viral burden. 0.98

01:24:56.000 So Trump is mocked and made fun of.

01:24:59.000 And then instead of being, instead of just going, well, I was just, I'm not a doctor.

01:25:04.000 I was asking a question.

01:25:05.000 And Or even having the appropriate advisors to say, Mr. President, this therapy does exist.

01:25:10.000 When it comes up, show them. 1.00

01:25:12.000 It's five years later, and libs are being like, huh, Trump's so dumb. 1.00

01:25:15.000 They fucking did it. 1.00

01:25:16.000 Okay, well, I'd love to see the study on how COVID was cured from this. 0.99

01:25:19.000 But going.

01:25:20.000 No, stop.

01:25:22.000 UV light destroys virus and bacteria.

01:25:25.000 Yes, bro, understand that.

01:25:26.000 It wasn't a cure for COVID.

01:25:28.000 There's no overall understanding when it comes to Trump or Trump supporters.

01:25:32.000 Endotracheal, this is wild.

01:25:33.000 You say he says this directly, and the way he said it, it's because.

01:25:37.000 Because he said it this way.

01:25:38.000 I don't understand.

01:25:38.000 There's no context to it.

01:25:39.000 I don't understand the stuff that's going on.

01:25:41.000 Guys, guys, guys.

01:25:43.000 Whoa.

01:25:44.000 Yes, UVC light effectively kills COVID.

01:25:47.000 Of course.

01:25:48.000 I could go on and on.

01:25:49.000 That's why I would say he said it like that.

01:25:50.000 But here's the thing.

01:25:51.000 He said it like that, and look at the response.

01:25:53.000 I would love to see that.

01:25:54.000 Look at the response the guy.

01:25:55.000 Instead of going, is that?

01:25:57.000 Let me go look. 0.99

01:25:57.000 It was like, you're crazy. 0.99

01:25:59.000 Because that's what I thought. 0.93

01:26:00.000 I heard him go, I'm not even joking.

01:26:03.000 Instead of being like, actually, I was right about the whole thing, he goes, no, I was joking.

01:26:06.000 He wasn't right about the whole thing.

01:26:07.000 Between 200 and 280 nanometers damages the genetic material of the virus.

01:26:11.000 I mean, here's a proof.

01:26:12.000 Right.

01:26:13.000 What happened?

01:26:13.000 Dangerous for human species.

01:26:14.000 What happened when he mentioned ivermectin and HCQ?

01:26:17.000 What happened in the media when he mentioned it?

01:26:19.000 No, no, no, hold on, hold on, hold on.

01:26:20.000 Let me pause.

01:26:20.000 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

01:26:21.000 I'm going to start from the beginning.

01:26:22.000 TechCrunch ran a story that the French were investigating the use of hydroxychloroquine to treat the symptoms of COVID and reduce viral load.

01:26:22.000 Yeah.

01:26:30.000 Yeah.

01:26:30.000 Donald Trump, this is what I love, I love, love, love.

01:26:33.000 And I mean that ironically.

01:26:35.000 Trump would see something in the news.

01:26:38.000 Then say it, and then the news would immediately invert their position on it.

01:26:41.000 TechCrunch ran the story because we covered it, and they said they're investigating the use of hydroxychloroquine.

01:26:41.000 Yes.

01:26:47.000 I went, wow.

01:26:48.000 Then a day later, Trump goes, You hear about this thing they're doing in France with the hydroxychloroquine or whatever it's called. 1.00

01:26:54.000 And then also the media goes, Trump's an idiot telling you to put fish cleaner in your body. 1.00

01:26:58.000 Well, there were a few people that died doing that. 1.00

01:27:01.000 That's not what he told.

01:27:02.000 But hold on. 0.98

01:27:03.000 Indeed, there are many people who do dumb things.

01:27:05.000 Did you know the story about the executive in Canada who ran full speed out of his window and fell to his death because he was trying to prove that his Glass, his skyscraper window was bulletproof.

01:27:15.000 So when you come to me and say somebody ate fish cleaner, I'm going to be like, yeah.

01:27:18.000 And three women took a selfie in front of a train and the train hit them too. 0.84

01:27:24.000 They're absolutely, what do we call these Darwin Awards?

01:27:27.000 Darwin Awards.

01:27:27.000 Yeah.

01:27:28.000 There's a lot of people.

01:27:29.000 Again, it goes back to, Brian, all I think a lot of us want on the right is a kiss and a pat on the head from Trump.

01:27:38.000 Yeah, that's it.

01:27:39.000 That's it.

01:27:39.000 Finally, that's it.

01:27:41.000 All right, well, thank you for coming, Rosalind.

01:27:42.000 We've got another good one. 0.77

01:27:43.000 Go to bed.

01:27:44.000 You want to kiss you on the forehead.

01:27:45.000 It's like be.

01:27:47.000 Be fair.

01:27:48.000 All right. 0.99

01:27:48.000 Since that went down in COVID, there was clearly one side that couldn't say shit. 0.99

01:27:52.000 Let's move on from COVID. 0.99

01:27:53.000 You would lose your whole system.

01:27:54.000 I don't even know if it was just a side. 1.00

01:27:56.000 It was just a way of saying shit. 1.00

01:27:57.000 Let's move on. 0.99

01:27:58.000 I just want to touch on the low T statement real quickly.

01:28:00.000 Okay, okay.

01:28:01.000 Let's move on from the COVID stuff.

01:28:02.000 I want to talk about something modern because we were trying to get to it and the COVID thing happened.

01:28:07.000 So, Daria Liza Chevalier has.

01:28:10.000 Is that a drink?

01:28:12.000 What is that?

01:28:13.000 Oh, I'm sorry.

01:28:14.000 We mentioned her.

01:28:14.000 I forgot.

01:28:15.000 Indeed. 0.73

01:28:16.000 She's a Dominican from Florida.

01:28:19.000 I believe this is her.

01:28:19.000 She converted to Islam.

01:28:21.000 She has complained that brown men are seduced or whatever by colonizer women. 0.93

01:28:27.000 She is. 0.93

01:28:28.000 CUAD and NSJP have said they want to destroy America, bring violence to America. 0.95

01:28:34.000 Should she be allowed. 0.88

01:28:36.000 To swear into Congress.

01:28:37.000 I think that should be disqualifying when you make a statement like that.

01:28:40.000 Certainly, I wouldn't vote for somebody like that.

01:28:42.000 I wouldn't want somebody representing me.

01:28:43.000 Whether that should be put into law or not is another story.

01:28:46.000 I'm not so, but just me, my personal opinions.

01:28:49.000 No, I don't think she should be allowed to serve.

01:28:51.000 No, I don't.

01:28:52.000 Tim, I completely agree with you, buddy.

01:28:55.000 So the question would be: what do we do?

01:28:58.000 Should the Republicans in Congress refuse to swear her in?

01:29:02.000 I think so.

01:29:03.000 I do.

01:29:03.000 I think it's disqualifying.

01:29:04.000 Yeah, I think it is.

01:29:05.000 To make a statement like that.

01:29:06.000 It's disqualifying in a way.

01:29:07.000 It's like, hey, if she threatened the Execution of six elected Democrats.

01:29:10.000 I think that should be discussed. 0.92

01:29:11.000 Who called for what?

01:29:13.000 Treason for military?

01:29:14.000 No, that's not what they did.

01:29:16.000 Do you know what was said in that video?

01:29:18.000 What was said?

01:29:19.000 Hey, if there was a legal order, you cannot.

01:29:21.000 Hey, make sure. 1.00

01:29:23.000 What they said was nobody should listen to Trump because he's dumb. 0.99

01:29:27.000 And everyone should wage rebellion against the United States. 0.99

01:29:30.000 And then they all started doing it.

01:29:33.000 Just like they asked the general, they go, so what's the legal order?

01:29:38.000 You're doing it against Trump at the same time.

01:29:40.000 When they were supposed to.

01:29:41.000 Unreal.

01:29:41.000 So actually, hold on, hold on, hold on.

01:29:43.000 Wait, wait, wait.

01:29:43.000 Let's clarify this one.

01:29:44.000 They're playing games awards like the left like to do because I used to be on the left.

01:29:47.000 What did he say?

01:29:48.000 So I can understand that they like to play games.

01:29:50.000 All right, let's pause for a second.

01:29:51.000 Let's pause, guys.

01:29:52.000 Trump should not have said that these people deserve the death penalty.

01:29:55.000 He should not have.

01:29:56.000 He said it was sedition.

01:29:57.000 Military sedition does carry upwards.

01:30:00.000 So I didn't know this at first.

01:30:00.000 When the story came out, I said the penalty for sedition is not death.

01:30:04.000 The penalty for treason is death, and treason is providing aid and comfort to the enemy in a time of war.

01:30:08.000 Sedition is trying to overthrow a war.

01:30:10.000 Why can't you just say what you're doing?

01:30:11.000 Hold on, hold on, hold on.

01:30:12.000 I don't understand that.

01:30:13.000 How so so so can I just finish?

01:30:15.000 Because you're not gonna like what's coming next.

01:30:15.000 Can I just finish?

01:30:17.000 Uh, because here we go.

01:30:18.000 Military sedition that is, if you uh if you have served or do serve, so I think it's what UCMJ sedition does carry the penalty of death because it's considered much more egregious if you are in a position of military.

01:30:29.000 Uh, now what those six uh Democrats did is explicitly illegal, but not anywhere near warranting a death penalty.

01:30:37.000 That is, it is explicitly codified that if you instruct members of the military or federal law enforcement to question their orders.

01:30:45.000 That is a crime.

01:30:47.000 That's not specifically what they said.

01:30:49.000 They didn't say question order.

01:30:50.000 It doesn't matter.

01:30:51.000 You get an illegal order.

01:30:53.000 Laws don't abide by an illegal order.

01:30:55.000 If it's a legal order, Brian, contract law and criminal law do not exist under this idea of textualism.

01:31:02.000 They exist under intent.

01:31:04.000 So if you go to someone and say, Do you have the thing?

01:31:09.000 And they go, I have the thing.

01:31:10.000 Do you want to trade a pina colada for the thing?

01:31:13.000 And you go, Yes.

01:31:14.000 And then you hand them a stack of money. 0.98

01:31:15.000 They don't go, Damn, he bought meth, but he was buying piña coladas, so we can't arrest him. 0.94

01:31:19.000 They say the language you used had an intent, and the intent will be interpreted by this court, and we will ask a jury to make the determination. 0.96

01:31:26.000 So let me just finish.

01:31:27.000 When the intention of those Democrats explicitly was built around, there were billboards put up all over the country telling people, and these were illegal too, saying, do not follow these orders explicitly.

01:31:38.000 That is illegal.

01:31:40.000 And there's a nonprofit doing it.

01:31:41.000 When you have the media and everyone around saying, one, we call this the tweedledy tweedledum death threat.

01:31:47.000 The first thing that happened was a bunch of people, a bunch of Democrats came out and said, Trump's orders are illegal.

01:31:53.000 Right.

01:31:53.000 Explicitly.

01:31:54.000 Then, after that was in the media cycle for a week, these Democrats came out and said, do not follow illegal orders.

01:32:00.000 You cannot play a tweedledee tweedledum defense.

01:32:02.000 It doesn't work.

01:32:03.000 The point is, the question of the court is what was the intent of these politicians?

01:32:08.000 The intention was playing on the context that Trump's orders were illegal on billboards, on TV, on talk shows, was to tell ICE agents and Marines to defy their active orders.

01:32:19.000 That's it.

01:32:20.000 That's a crime.

01:32:21.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:32:21.000 End of story.

01:32:22.000 Now, the death penalty is not correct.

01:32:23.000 But come on, man.

01:32:24.000 Like, I feel like sometimes people act like they're not just like the reality of things.

01:32:31.000 Like they're sitting there and they're going out and you see billboards around.

01:32:34.000 People are always saying everything is orders that he's putting out are unconstitutional, it's illegal, it's legal.

01:32:39.000 Then you see the video, it's like, don't you like hear the music?

01:32:43.000 They're all trying to paint a certain picture, even if it's not true.

01:32:47.000 Even if it's not true, it's like, that's Donald Trump's entire life.

01:32:50.000 See it go down this direction.

01:32:51.000 Like, how do we not see that?

01:32:53.000 How do we not see when you have billboards, then you have uh, later on a video comes up?

01:32:57.000 They're literally describing Donald Trump's entire life.

01:33:00.000 Okay, fine, I'll grant you that.

01:33:01.000 How do you not see this, bro?

01:33:03.000 How do you not see when COVID they were sitting there going?

01:33:06.000 If you sit there and you go against the narrative, you're out of some polite society.

01:33:09.000 How do you not see these things?

01:33:10.000 How?

01:33:11.000 When they're sitting, the music is going in this direction.

01:33:13.000 You want to answer so many questions, and you're like, wait a minute.

01:33:15.000 You want to talk about not being able to see things?

01:33:17.000 How do we not do that?

01:33:18.000 You want to be able to talk about not being able to see things?

01:33:21.000 You want to talk about Donald Trump?

01:33:22.000 I would love to do that with you.

01:33:24.000 I'm talking to you.

01:33:25.000 I'm talking ultimately to the people on the left and how they treated average people like myself in their career.

01:33:31.000 I got to stress this too.

01:33:33.000 Wait, stop.

01:33:35.000 I got to bring this up.

01:33:36.000 I got to bring this up because, Brian, you are.

01:33:39.000 Is abject wrong.

01:33:41.000 This is not what you signed up for.org.

01:33:43.000 These billboards were all across the country.

01:33:45.000 What am I wrong about?

01:33:45.000 This is explicitly a crime.

01:33:47.000 Wow.

01:33:48.000 So here's what they did.

01:33:50.000 They had billboards that said a couple of things.

01:33:52.000 One, they said only obey lawful orders.

01:33:56.000 And then a link.

01:33:57.000 Others said, are you loyal to the Constitution or to ICE?

01:34:00.000 Because this was over National Guard and Marines working with ICE.

01:34:02.000 Who put up those billboards?

01:34:04.000 Private NGOs and PACs.

01:34:06.000 Okay.

01:34:07.000 It resulted in this.

01:34:08.000 Now hold on.

01:34:09.000 Explicitly illegal.

01:34:09.000 This is explicitly.

01:34:12.000 And by all means, I can say, where are they at with arrests?

01:34:14.000 Instructing military members to use encrypted communications is a crime, 100%.

01:34:21.000 Not penalty of death, but this is overtly illegal.

01:34:24.000 Look at this.

01:34:25.000 Be sure to access resources outside the military or government computer.

01:34:28.000 They throw it out in court when Donald Trump tried to kill them illegally.

01:34:31.000 No, no, no, no.

01:34:32.000 Democrats specifically.

01:34:34.000 Because we are in.

01:34:34.000 What about the death stuff?

01:34:35.000 Because there are two countries, there are two nations existing in the borders of this country, and there's something called venue selection.

01:34:43.000 I think you would agree that if it goes before, if you have a proceeding in West Virginia, 86% Trump supporting, you are likely going to get a pro Trump outcome.

01:34:54.000 Do you know why Watson v. RNC, the lawsuit over mail in votes, is happening in, I think it's Mississippi?

01:34:59.000 Is it Mississippi?

01:34:59.000 I think so, yeah.

01:35:00.000 Do you know why it's happening there?

01:35:01.000 No.

01:35:02.000 This is a strategy put in place by Republicans to overturn California's laws.

01:35:06.000 But if you sue in California, you'll get California judges who will rule in their own favor and their own interests.

01:35:11.000 So you target the federal issue.

01:35:13.000 In a Republican state with Republican federal judges, so you guarantee you get the outcome that you want.

01:35:18.000 Didn't they just sue the DOJ and the DOJ settle with them?

01:35:18.000 Right.

01:35:22.000 Who did?

01:35:23.000 Oh, man.

01:35:24.000 So let me put it like this.

01:35:25.000 It was a group, they sued them.

01:35:27.000 DOJ was like, all right.

01:35:28.000 So.

01:35:28.000 Just gave up because that's what.

01:35:29.000 Watson v. RNC probably already came down by the time people are watching this.

01:35:33.000 It may not have.

01:35:34.000 This could effectively end mail in voting or, in the broad sense, likely just you will not be able to count votes after Election Day, which would mean Republicans would not have lost the 2018 midterms.

01:35:46.000 With this ruling, in 2018, the Democrats ended up winning because two or three weeks after the election, late arriving ballots flipped it for the Democrats.

01:35:54.000 If they rule in Watson v. RNC that you cannot do that, Democrats are not going to win this midterm.

01:35:59.000 That's going to be nuts.

01:36:00.000 I don't think they're going to win for a lot of it.

01:36:01.000 The point ultimately is with now I'm losing my train of thought.

01:36:06.000 With this story, you have Democrats explicitly telling the military to question their orders.

01:36:16.000 Again, saying obey lawful orders is on the line.

01:36:19.000 The court is going to interpret this on the intent, not on those statements.

01:36:23.000 To the point of venue selection, they go to Mississippi to file this claim against Republicans because what they would do in California is they would refuse to appeal.

01:36:35.000 They would intentionally throw the case so that they can do one of two things.

01:36:39.000 They can get favorable judges to defend them, but they don't want to go to the Supreme Court.

01:36:43.000 So they might give a narrow ruling that you can't appeal or let it die.

01:36:47.000 Trump has used this tactic.

01:36:48.000 I forgot which case it was.

01:36:49.000 We covered it.

01:36:50.000 Where there were two or three people filed a lawsuit against the federal government over something pertaining to the military.

01:36:56.000 And the Trump administration went, you win, preventing their ability to appeal to the Supreme Court so they can't get a national lemon roll.

01:37:02.000 In general terms, obviously, there's a difference between questioning an order and believing that.

01:37:07.000 You've been asked by a superior for an unlawful order.

01:37:10.000 If you're asked and you believe it's an unlawful order, it is your duty to speak to another superior to question that if you believe it's an unlawful order.

01:37:18.000 Wait, wait, wait, wait.

01:37:18.000 That's not a good thing.

01:37:19.000 Let me ask you a question.

01:37:20.000 Let me ask you a question.

01:37:21.000 Do you think, let's say Ian and I are standing outside and there's a big, raucous mob screaming and smashing things. 1.00

01:37:30.000 I scream to those people, we must kill all Nazis on site. 1.00

01:37:35.000 And then Ian points at you and goes, he's a Nazi. 1.00

01:37:39.000 So they run at you with pitchforks and molotovs and murder you.

01:37:41.000 Should Ian and I get in trouble for what we said individually?

01:37:44.000 Well, it could be incitement.

01:37:46.000 You could make the case that you incited something to happen.

01:37:49.000 It's possible.

01:37:50.000 Well, I knew that.

01:37:51.000 It's not because legally, hold on, legally, I created no imminent threat.

01:37:55.000 So the law for speech becoming incitement is when you say, I want you to do this thing at time.

01:38:01.000 So go do this now. 0.99

01:38:03.000 I said, we must kill Nazis. 1.00

01:38:03.000 I didn't say that. 1.00

01:38:05.000 Ian then pointed you and said, you're a Nazi.

01:38:06.000 Neither of us told them to do it.

01:38:09.000 I think it's a gray area. 0.94

01:38:10.000 We call it the Tweedlede Tweedledums F.

01:38:12.000 It's a gray area.

01:38:13.000 Listen, I don't know how much time we have left here because I know we were going to debate a little bit about Trump's 18 months.

01:38:18.000 I think that's what we agreed to do a little bit.

01:38:19.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:38:20.000 If that's okay, I don't know if that's if we could let's just go for it.

01:38:24.000 Yeah.

01:38:25.000 So there's two parts for me when it comes to Donald Trump.

01:38:29.000 Number one is personal, number two is policy, right?

01:38:32.000 I, you know, and I vote a little bit differently than maybe some do.

01:38:37.000 I think if you've lived a chaotic life, you're probably going to be a chaotic president.

01:38:41.000 So we can start with the personal stuff and maybe then go.

01:38:43.000 To not you and me, I'm talking about Trump, and then go and then go to a nice guy.

01:38:47.000 No, I think you're a nice guy, but and then maybe go to some policy stuff because we don't have a lot of time left.

01:38:52.000 You have kids.

01:38:53.000 I'm wondering how you can vote for a man with his personal stuff the cheating, the lying, everything.

01:39:04.000 Stuff that he says.

01:39:04.000 What's the best part?

01:39:05.000 He's an alpha.

01:39:06.000 He's an alpha.

01:39:07.000 Well, I wouldn't. 0.94

01:39:08.000 I think he's a liable sexual abuse, for example.

01:39:11.000 The, you know, the.

01:39:13.000 You know, attacking Gold Star families, the John McCain statement, which I thought was.

01:39:16.000 I don't believe you actually believe that sexual assault claim against Trump.

01:39:20.000 Yeah.

01:39:20.000 E. Jean Carroll, you're talking about?

01:39:21.000 You know, you know, let me just say this.

01:39:21.000 Yeah.

01:39:22.000 You know how I know you don't actually believe it?

01:39:25.000 Because I saw you lay down the second nuts yesterday to a guy who had.

01:39:30.000 You had a queen high flush against the.

01:39:32.000 I'm a good poker player.

01:39:33.000 So hold on, hold on, hold on.

01:39:34.000 And this is funny, but it matters.

01:39:36.000 This is a.

01:39:36.000 This was a.

01:39:38.000 This was a.

01:39:39.000 I made a professional lay down.

01:39:40.000 He's got.

01:39:41.000 It went runner, runner, meaning like.

01:39:43.000 Extremely hard for the two diamonds to come out on the turn in the river, right?

01:39:48.000 So it's very unlikely.

01:39:49.000 He has the second best possible hand, and the others got the best possible hand, which is flush over flush is extremely rare.

01:39:57.000 And he literally said, I know what you have, you would never do this, you've got the nuts.

01:40:01.000 He shows the queen high flush.

01:40:03.000 And then he's like, I'm laying this down.

01:40:05.000 And the guy was like, You were right.

01:40:06.000 And he flips over the king high flush.

01:40:07.000 The ace is on the board.

01:40:08.000 Brian.

01:40:09.000 So, how could you see through?

01:40:11.000 My point is this.

01:40:12.000 Yeah.

01:40:13.000 And I've watched you make similar hands, seeing through the obvious deceptions and plays.

01:40:17.000 You've made good folds.

01:40:19.000 You've made excellent calls.

01:40:21.000 And then in the E.G. Carroll thing, you're just like, I just believe this one.

01:40:23.000 By the way, on a side note, I lost a bet to Tim and he's making me wear a Donald Trump hat and he's putting me in the World Series of Pokers.

01:40:29.000 So, I figured I'd have to wear a MAGA hat while I was playing.

01:40:31.000 Hey, for 10 grand.

01:40:32.000 At least we start at 10 grand.

01:40:34.000 I'm glad you brought that up.

01:40:35.000 Because now you made my point for me.

01:40:36.000 Oh, yeah.

01:40:37.000 In poker, we have something called a read, okay?

01:40:41.000 It's history.

01:40:42.000 No, no, no, hold on.

01:40:43.000 Hear me out on this, Tim.

01:40:43.000 You'll appreciate this.

01:40:45.000 So, the read on this individual was he's a tight player.

01:40:49.000 He's not a foolish player.

01:40:50.000 He's not gonna be betting with a crazy hand.

01:40:52.000 I think he's a pretty good player.

01:40:53.000 He's a tight player.

01:40:54.000 Here's my read on Donald Trump it's a poker read. 0.92

01:40:57.000 He has all these women that have accused him of rape or sexual assault. 0.99

01:41:00.000 He's a womanizer, okay? 0.99

01:41:02.000 His own ex wife in court documents in a deposition said that he raped her, and then she dropped it when he paid her off. 0.99

01:41:08.000 Hold on. 0.93

01:41:08.000 The poker player, hold on, hold on, hear me out. 0.93

01:41:11.000 30 seconds.

01:41:11.000 The poker player has a history, okay?

01:41:14.000 This wasn't somebody who I just sat down at the table with and I don't know anything about him.

01:41:19.000 If that was the case, I make that call. 0.99

01:41:21.000 Donald Trump, this isn't just somebody that randomly a woman said, hey, he raped me 30 years ago. 1.00

01:41:27.000 No, this is a guy who has a history of womanizing. 1.00

01:41:30.000 It's my read.

01:41:31.000 It's my read on Donald Trump.

01:41:33.000 Can I?

01:41:33.000 Can I say this?

01:41:34.000 Does that not make sense?

01:41:34.000 Real quick.

01:41:36.000 I want people to understand this.

01:41:38.000 Does that not make sense to him?

01:41:40.000 But let me just say this.

01:41:41.000 For people who don't play poker, they need to understand how good of a laydown that was.

01:41:45.000 And this is why I don't believe you.

01:41:46.000 This is why I don't believe you.

01:41:47.000 And I want to explain some things.

01:41:49.000 Stop bluffing, Tim.

01:41:49.000 So, first.

01:41:50.000 I'm not bluffing.

01:41:51.000 So, hold on.

01:41:52.000 Hold on.

01:41:53.000 On the flop, there's already a straight present.

01:41:56.000 Correct.

01:41:57.000 So, it was 6 4 3 on the flop.

01:41:57.000 There are sets.

01:42:00.000 Correct.

01:42:01.000 With one diamond.

01:42:02.000 The turn is an ace.

01:42:04.000 So, this means ace of diamonds.

01:42:04.000 Diamond.

01:42:05.000 I have the second nut flush draw.

01:42:07.000 So, this is what this means.

01:42:09.000 Someone could have pocket sixes for a set.

01:42:11.000 They could have six fours, a limp pot, meaning tons of players are in.

01:42:14.000 There are so many hands that might actually try and make a heavy play by jamming.

01:42:18.000 So to fold the second nuts, where you could be looking at two pairs with an ace combo, you could be looking at someone who had a straight but now doesn't believe the other guy's got the flush.

01:42:28.000 The point is, when it comes to players and you're mentioning their play history, when you were good at poker, you also recognize their play history includes trying to manipulate you based on their play history.

01:42:40.000 That is.

01:42:41.000 By all means, you can say that Trump did everything you accuse him of in terms of rape and that history.

01:42:48.000 But the E. Gene Carroll case is like watching a guy.

01:42:53.000 I don't want to get too esoteric with poker so people don't understand.

01:42:57.000 But the E. Gene Carroll case doesn't make sense.

01:43:02.000 It just doesn't add up.

01:43:03.000 This would be where you would have an ace high.

01:43:06.000 Can I ask a question?

01:43:08.000 Real quick, my point is this to use a little poker analogy.

01:43:11.000 The E. Jean Carroll case with everything she described it and how she outlined it. 1.00

01:43:15.000 She was wearing a dress that didn't exist.

01:43:17.000 Hold on, hold on.

01:43:17.000 Donald Trump.

01:43:18.000 She was wearing a dress that didn't exist.

01:43:20.000 No one saw the most famous man in New York go to the sixth floor of a building.

01:43:24.000 They somehow found an unlocked room, even though they're all locked.

01:43:26.000 Like nobody stopped them on the way there.

01:43:28.000 They changed the law to be able to bring the.

01:43:31.000 And that, too, none of that adds up.

01:43:33.000 In a traditional poker game, and I know you would do this, it's the moment where you hero call with ace four offsuit because you know he's got six, seven, and he missed his straight draw. 0.93

01:43:42.000 He's got junk.

01:43:43.000 That's the E. Jean Carroll case. 0.99

01:43:45.000 Now, by all means, accuse Trump of everything else.

01:43:46.000 But this case is insane.

01:43:48.000 And yes, that was a world class laydown.

01:43:49.000 Thank you for mentioning it.

01:43:51.000 But I appreciate that, Mr. Cole.

01:43:53.000 I was surprised.

01:43:54.000 I was like, wow.

01:43:55.000 Second nuts.

01:43:56.000 I'm a good poker player.

01:43:58.000 Tim's actually a pretty good poker player, too.

01:44:00.000 It's fun playing poker with Tim.

01:44:01.000 But real quickly, and that was true, by the way, I will be wearing a MAGA hat in the main.

01:44:05.000 I got him, boys.

01:44:06.000 I cannot believe I'm going to be doing this.

01:44:08.000 And aren't I wearing a shirt?

01:44:10.000 You know what, though?

01:44:10.000 No, that's your choice.

01:44:11.000 You know what, though, Brian?

01:44:12.000 Like, that says something more about your character that it's, even though you see the videos I've watched.

01:44:18.000 I have a lot of friends.

01:44:19.000 Anybody who knows me can attest to this.

01:44:21.000 I have a lot of friends on the right.

01:44:23.000 Well, wait, but here's the other thing, too.

01:44:24.000 Let's be like, I'll be like.

01:44:25.000 That's the difference between, I think, even you holding these positions and how I've even interacted with some people personally that I know who go.

01:44:33.000 Right?

01:44:33.000 A maga hat.

01:44:34.000 We got him, boys.

01:44:35.000 I got George Santos a paid gig last week.

01:44:39.000 Putting money in people's pockets.

01:44:39.000 Oh, wait, wait, wait, wait.

01:44:41.000 In all honesty, though.

01:44:42.000 Yeah, you're right about Trump.

01:44:43.000 What's going on?

01:44:44.000 We all know that forcing Brian to wear a maga hat actually is going to generate a lot of buzz.

01:44:48.000 I know.

01:44:49.000 It's going to be hilarious.

01:44:50.000 He's a smart media guy.

01:44:51.000 We got him.

01:44:52.000 I ask you that.

01:44:53.000 And then the last point is he's going to wear the maga hat, and the left is going to go after him like crazy. 0.99

01:44:57.000 Oh, they go after me because I was criticizing Kamala Harris last month, and I said, if she runs again, we're fucked. 0.98

01:45:02.000 Sorry, excuse my language. 0.99

01:45:03.000 But I was called a racist for that.

01:45:05.000 But anyway, The E. Jean Carroll thing, real quickly, and I know we're not really going back into that case too much here, but E. Jean Carroll had the dress that she was wearing, that she claimed she was wearing.

01:45:16.000 And that dress did not exist.

01:45:18.000 Donald Trump refused to take a DNA test.

01:45:21.000 Why?

01:45:22.000 Wait, wait, wait.

01:45:23.000 Hold on.

01:45:23.000 No, no, no.

01:45:24.000 Because this is America.

01:45:25.000 I got to pause because there's a procedural argument against the fact that you should just submit.

01:45:30.000 Right.

01:45:32.000 So I'll give you the really generic example if you have nothing to hide, why don't you just let them spy on you or read?

01:45:40.000 So, the very simple argument, surface level, we can talk specifics on the DNA stuff, but the surface level is this.

01:45:47.000 When there's a guy named Moxie Marlinspike who I interviewed about, I think he started Signal actually.

01:45:52.000 And the question is if you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to hide, what are you worried about?

01:45:57.000 And he said, the problem is there are many things that we as a culture believe should be legal but are illegal.

01:46:02.000 And he says, marijuana is a really good example.

01:46:04.000 At the time I interviewed him, he said, marijuana is rapidly becoming legal across the country, but how would people know they wanted it to be legal unless they were doing something illegal?

01:46:13.000 And so the government is procedural.

01:46:15.000 It does not care what you did or why you did it.

01:46:18.000 They will just say, if we can find the crime, we're going to put you in prison for it.

01:46:22.000 So we cannot live in a society that forces people to capitulate to the demands of surveillance or evidence gathering if you've done nothing wrong.

01:46:31.000 The burden has to be on the other party.

01:46:33.000 And I know it's a viable case. 1.00

01:46:33.000 I understand. 1.00

01:46:35.000 And it's not a viable case.

01:46:36.000 And I get all that.

01:46:36.000 Hold on.

01:46:37.000 You cannot force a person to submit to your accusations against them.

01:46:41.000 I didn't say that.

01:46:41.000 I'm not saying you.

01:46:42.000 I'm saying this is the argument presented.

01:46:43.000 I understand.

01:46:44.000 But just to bring it down quickly.

01:46:45.000 Wait, wait, real quick.

01:46:46.000 So when it comes to Trump, That dress did not exist at the time of the allegations, and they were trying to use it to get a DNA sample against Trump.

01:46:53.000 The most honorable thing Trump should and could do is deny and refuse to be submitted to a DNA test over an accusation that is dubious.

01:47:01.000 Quickly, the point that I was making earlier let's just say, for argument's sake, you're right.

01:47:05.000 I don't agree.

01:47:06.000 I actually do think it did happen.

01:47:08.000 I'm telling you the truth. 0.88

01:47:09.000 But let's just say, for argument's sake, it didn't, and E. Jean Carroll's a liar.

01:47:12.000 I look at the man's history.

01:47:15.000 So you wanted to go down the line of what?

01:47:17.000 I look at the womanizing, I look at raw dogging a Porn stars, they're off $130,000, cheating on everyone that I've ever been with, bragging about going into teenage girls' locker room pageant without their permission on the Howard Stern show. 0.71

01:47:29.000 There is a reason why.

01:47:30.000 It was a room in a pageant that he ran.

01:47:33.000 It was a room in a pageant that he ran. 0.81

01:47:36.000 So you're allowed to go in there when they're half naked and you're okay with that?

01:47:39.000 And brag about it sexually on the Howard Stern show?

01:47:41.000 You have kids, man.

01:47:43.000 You should actually pull up the clip because it's not.

01:47:45.000 Are you putting it together?

01:47:46.000 Are we laughing and joking about it?

01:47:50.000 Wait, wait, wait.

01:47:52.000 Any point made about the Howard Stern show is instantly just disqualifying.

01:47:52.000 I think.

01:47:56.000 There were three women that I interviewed that said that that's exactly what happened.

01:48:00.000 They were half naked and he walked in.

01:48:01.000 Howard Stern's show is intentionally meant to be lewd, lascivious, and antagonistic. 0.98

01:48:06.000 Gross. 0.96

01:48:06.000 And so people go on there and say the craziest things. 0.96

01:48:09.000 I just say, the Howard Stern show isn't disqualifying.

01:48:12.000 Even before that. 0.93

01:48:13.000 The women that were interviewed, were they disqualifying when they actually did that?

01:48:13.000 Things done.

01:48:16.000 On the Howard Stern show.

01:48:18.000 No, they were not on the Howard Stern show.

01:48:18.000 Yep.

01:48:20.000 No, no, no.

01:48:21.000 I'm not talking about those interviews.

01:48:22.000 And I'm talking about that incident.

01:48:24.000 If you want to throw away the Howard Stern show.

01:48:25.000 You are talking.

01:48:26.000 That's one thing. 1.00

01:48:27.000 But there are women that can say that that did happen. 0.99

01:48:30.000 That's fine. 0.99

01:48:30.000 The argument we're having right now is you mentioned that Trump went on the Howard Stern show and said things. 0.99

01:48:35.000 Bro, Howard Stern, what did he do? 0.99

01:48:36.000 Like launch hot dogs at women's tits? 1.00

01:48:37.000 Yeah, but that doesn't mean. 1.00

01:48:38.000 It's meant to be insane.

01:48:39.000 But it doesn't mean that what people say is automatically untrue.

01:48:42.000 They may be.

01:48:43.000 Oh, but it's not credible.

01:48:45.000 All right.

01:48:46.000 What would you say about a guy who says he doesn't respect somebody because they were captured in John McCain?

01:48:51.000 What'd you think about that statement?

01:48:53.000 I didn't really care to be.

01:48:54.000 You don't care.

01:48:55.000 I thought that was.

01:48:55.000 You don't care?

01:48:56.000 I didn't care.

01:48:57.000 This is a guy who was five years in BOW.

01:49:00.000 You don't care?

01:49:02.000 I didn't tell you why.

01:49:04.000 Because the things that I heard about what he was doing while he was tortured and how he had connections with the people he didn't want to leave his people behind, what he had connections with, though, running the camp and how he let other people go through more situations. 0.55

01:49:17.000 The guy dodged the military five times, and you're okay with him shitting on someone who was a POW?

01:49:21.000 No one, I didn't say I was okay with it. 0.94

01:49:23.000 I said, I don't care.

01:49:24.000 You don't, no one cares.

01:49:25.000 Well, I do, no, no, people do.

01:49:27.000 There's a lot of people in the military.

01:49:28.000 Can I tell you why I decided to vote for him over Kamala Harris or anyone else?

01:49:32.000 Does any of this stuff bother you at all?

01:49:33.000 Can I tell you?

01:49:34.000 Can I tell you why?

01:49:35.000 I want to hear you, but I can I tell you why?

01:49:37.000 I know, but I just.

01:49:38.000 Because Trump is not my God.

01:49:40.000 Trump is a part of policies.

01:49:41.000 The left has killed more people that look like me in the womb than World War II.

01:49:46.000 Hold on.

01:49:47.000 Than in the womb.

01:49:48.000 His policies of pro life actually help. 0.84

01:49:50.000 His policy, yeah, oh, geez.

01:49:52.000 Babies dying.

01:49:53.000 Oh, my God.

01:49:54.000 13% of the population actually sick, doing 40% of the killing of babies, bro.

01:49:59.000 That's a big deal to me.

01:50:00.000 The fact that I'm a Christian with kids and want my religion to be out there.

01:50:04.000 That's why.

01:50:05.000 So it's not just about Donald Trump because I don't worship a man.

01:50:08.000 We don't worship men.

01:50:10.000 On the left, they worship Obama.

01:50:12.000 They worshiped Biden.

01:50:13.000 And then it tried to worship Kamala, but it wouldn't carry.

01:50:15.000 Let me respond to that.

01:50:16.000 No, wait.

01:50:16.000 You, you put up your whole thing.

01:50:18.000 I'm going to tell you why over and over and over.

01:50:20.000 I want less government in my life. 0.99

01:50:22.000 Biggest reason is because I lived for four years under Biden, took my shit that was in my house without charging me. 0.98

01:50:30.000 I couldn't fly even to come on his show twice. 0.98

01:50:33.000 I couldn't fly without people following me.

01:50:35.000 That's why I didn't vote for them, even though you can go down the list of how Trump is this.

01:50:40.000 They were coming after me. 0.95

01:50:41.000 They were killing babies. 0.89

01:50:42.000 They were promoting death in a community that needs help. 0.99

01:50:45.000 They're not sitting there having the dumbest people in their public schools because they've been sitting there lying to them about everything's racist. 1.00

01:50:52.000 Now, everybody in California, in Chicago, where I'm from, in New York, all these people are dumb. 1.00

01:50:58.000 We've lost generations of young men and young boys and young girls to this dumb thing. 1.00

01:51:03.000 That's why I didn't vote for the left, and that's why I voted for Donald Trump. 0.93

01:51:06.000 I can raise my voice too, and I can say, Yeah, you do.

01:51:09.000 It's passionate.

01:51:09.000 You do.

01:51:10.000 And the fact that this guy, I don't have my mask.

01:51:13.000 He's not my God.

01:51:14.000 It's working out.

01:51:16.000 It's great.

01:51:17.000 Please go ahead.

01:51:17.000 May I respond?

01:51:18.000 Half the time that you just spurged out.

01:51:20.000 Go ahead.

01:51:20.000 Thank you.

01:51:20.000 For the minute and a half.

01:51:22.000 Go ahead.

01:51:22.000 Hold on.

01:51:24.000 Hold on a second.

01:51:25.000 So, first of all, let me start by saying this.

01:51:27.000 Okay.

01:51:28.000 You're anti abortion.

01:51:29.000 Okay.

01:51:30.000 I don't call it pro life. 0.94

01:51:32.000 I call it anti abortion.

01:51:33.000 But if we're going to talk. 0.97

01:51:34.000 It's pro life because they're killing life, bro.

01:51:36.000 They're killing life.

01:51:36.000 Five seconds.

01:51:37.000 They're killing life. 1.00

01:51:38.000 I don't play about that shit. 1.00

01:51:39.000 I don't play about that shit. 1.00

01:51:40.000 I lost a son myself. 1.00

01:51:42.000 So, you know what?

01:51:44.000 Go ahead.

01:51:45.000 Taking health care away from millions of Americans.

01:51:47.000 Taking food.

01:51:48.000 How are you taking it away?

01:51:49.000 After five seconds, are you taking health care away?

01:51:51.000 Are you going to stop interrupting me?

01:51:53.000 Are you taking it away?

01:51:54.000 Let him finish.

01:51:55.000 Every other word you're introducing me, bro.

01:51:57.000 Right now, right now, because I'm tired of waiting.

01:51:59.000 Well, guess what?

01:52:00.000 Stop talking and let me finish now.

01:52:02.000 You can have your spur got again about talking about abortion. 0.59

01:52:05.000 That's fine.

01:52:07.000 I disagree with you.

01:52:08.000 They take away food stamps from millions of Americans.

01:52:12.000 He takes away health care from Americans.

01:52:14.000 It seems to me very interesting that after the baby is born, he's against maternity leave.

01:52:19.000 After the baby is born, you're against all these government programs that can help poor people.

01:52:23.000 I don't want bigger governments.

01:52:24.000 I don't care about that.

01:52:25.000 I don't want bigger governments.

01:52:26.000 You've made it.

01:52:27.000 Very clear.

01:52:27.000 Yeah, so I don't care about that.

01:52:29.000 So your point doesn't matter.

01:52:30.000 You voted for the left.

01:52:32.000 You voted for the left.

01:52:33.000 Good.

01:52:33.000 We're both bored, but we have different votes.

01:52:36.000 The thing is, I don't care about those things because those are bigger government.

01:52:40.000 At the end of the day, everything you're talking about is putting people to rely on it.

01:52:43.000 It doesn't matter.

01:52:44.000 Wait, wait, wait.

01:52:45.000 It doesn't matter because.

01:52:47.000 No, because he started with.

01:52:48.000 He's got to finish.

01:52:48.000 How did you vote for this guy who I'm going to list?

01:52:50.000 And I go, you know why?

01:52:51.000 Because of these things.

01:52:52.000 Okay, brother, brother.

01:52:53.000 He's going to bring back up his presence from the left.

01:52:55.000 And I'm like, I don't care about another guy.

01:52:56.000 He's got to be able to say something.

01:52:58.000 It doesn't matter from my point that I made basically going, why'd you vote for him?

01:53:02.000 Dude, you got to let me finish.

01:53:03.000 I've talked for like 10 seconds, dude.

01:53:04.000 Okay.

01:53:05.000 There are a lot of government programs out there for talking about policy that Donald Trump has taken away from Americans.

01:53:12.000 The biggest tax breaks for the top 1%.

01:53:15.000 If you care about poor people and people that are living paycheck to paycheck, look at where the economy is at right now.

01:53:21.000 He promised that he would lower all our prices on day one.

01:53:25.000 By the way, this is pro life, right?

01:53:26.000 We want, no, he didn't.

01:53:27.000 And you're not even going to do it.

01:53:28.000 Let me finish.

01:53:29.000 No, from the time that he took office.

01:53:32.000 Are you going to?

01:53:32.000 Okay, okay, okay.

01:53:33.000 I've got something I'm trying to say, but I can't until he finishes.

01:53:36.000 Please, 30 seconds if you want to talk about the economy, okay?

01:53:40.000 Based on almost every metric, from the time Donald Trump took office to right now, inflation was up 0.6%.

01:53:46.000 It's 4.2%.

01:53:48.000 It was 3% when he took office.

01:53:50.000 He said he was going to end the war in Ukraine in 24 hours.

01:53:53.000 All I have to do is pick up the phone.

01:53:55.000 There are still people dying.

01:53:56.000 The war is still going on in Ukraine.

01:53:58.000 He said he was going to be a peace president.

01:54:00.000 He said he wasn't going to start a war. 0.99

01:54:02.000 How the fuck did that work out? 0.98

01:54:03.000 Look at this mess in Iran right now in the Strait of Hormuz. 1.00

01:54:06.000 It's open, it's closed, it's open, it's closed. 0.93

01:54:08.000 So I want consistency from you.

01:54:10.000 I will respect your opinion when it comes to abortion.

01:54:12.000 We can have a decent conversation about abortion and what I think maybe we can do to work together.

01:54:17.000 But if you care so much about that topic, you should all care about innocent people that are dying.

01:54:22.000 They don't have access to health care, they don't have access to food stamps and government programs that can help these people live.

01:54:29.000 So I want you to have that same passion after the baby is born, not just before the baby is born. 1.00

01:54:34.000 Because you're a hypocrite. 0.99

01:54:35.000 No, here's the thing I don't think those things work. 1.00

01:54:37.000 Why?

01:54:38.000 Because I actually live in those communities, homie. 1.00

01:54:40.000 I watched that shit tear people down for decades. 1.00

01:54:43.000 So, you want more programs, more government programs that have been destroying the black community? 1.00

01:54:47.000 That's what you're sitting here screaming at me about when I've watched it not work. 1.00

01:54:50.000 The healthcare doesn't work for them like that.

01:54:53.000 Yes, it does, dude.

01:54:54.000 What are you talking about?

01:54:55.000 What are you talking about?

01:54:57.000 The government run healthcare, number one, has inflated the price.

01:55:00.000 Did they take it away? 0.88

01:55:01.000 That's what they're supposed to do.

01:55:02.000 Who took it away?

01:55:03.000 They didn't vote for Obamacare.

01:55:06.000 They didn't vote for Donald Trump.

01:55:07.000 What's his healthcare plan?

01:55:08.000 Donald Trump did not take it away from him.

01:55:11.000 What's his healthcare plan?

01:55:12.000 Take it away.

01:55:13.000 What is his replacement plan?

01:55:14.000 They didn't vote for it.

01:55:17.000 Ultimate replacement plan?

01:55:18.000 He said it in his first debate back in 2016.

01:55:20.000 Where is it?

01:55:21.000 He hasn't presented it to anybody.

01:55:21.000 Where's the plan?

01:55:23.000 Where's the plan?

01:55:23.000 What do you want me to go and get it for him?

01:55:25.000 No, I want you to admit that the guy that you voted for is a moron. 1.00

01:55:27.000 He said it in the first debate back in 2016. 1.00

01:55:30.000 Do you know what he said?

01:55:31.000 What did he say?

01:55:32.000 He said, What we should do that the government doesn't want to do, it goes, We should put it on the open market and let the market go.

01:55:38.000 Where's the plan?

01:55:39.000 That's all it is.

01:55:40.000 But these guys won't vote for it because it puts money into the government's pocket.

01:55:43.000 What are you talking about?

01:55:44.000 Collects more taxes.

01:55:45.000 He hasn't presented a I said this in his first debate.

01:55:50.000 I'm having the time of my life, dude.

01:55:52.000 I want to go another hour.

01:55:53.000 We're not in a rush.

01:55:54.000 You're talking about, you go, why don't he give them the health care?

01:55:56.000 He didn't, he had nothing to do with them voting good.

01:55:59.000 Okay, wait.

01:55:59.000 That's the plan.

01:56:00.000 The free market is the plan.

01:56:02.000 You sit there, you go, put them on more government programs. 0.98

01:56:05.000 We literally have watched communities go to the crap because of these government programs. 0.98

01:56:09.000 And you're screaming for more of it? 0.99

01:56:09.000 I figure that's it. 0.99

01:56:11.000 Are you insane? 1.00

01:56:12.000 The first big government program destroyed the black family. 1.00

01:56:15.000 But you want more of that? 0.99

01:56:17.000 You want them to sit there and go destroy Medicaid, destroy the family. 0.97

01:56:20.000 What the hell are you talking about? 0.95

01:56:21.000 Are you listening? 1.00

01:56:22.000 The first government program that they were given, which was called the welfare program, homie. 1.00

01:56:28.000 That destroyed the black family. 1.00

01:56:30.000 That's what we're seeing right now. 1.00

01:56:31.000 And then you want to give these obese individuals who have lower education more crap food. 0.98

01:56:37.000 Yeah, those are the people who voted for Donald Trump. 1.00

01:56:39.000 More crap food. 1.00

01:56:40.000 I agree. 1.00

01:56:41.000 The black community voted for Donald Trump at 85%.

01:56:43.000 85%. 0.69

01:56:44.000 No, I understand.

01:56:46.000 85%.

01:56:47.000 And they're in the squalor.

01:56:48.000 They're at the bottom of the barrel.

01:56:50.000 They decided to partner up with the left. 0.82

01:56:52.000 You're saying that health care has raised the black family? 0.89

01:56:55.000 Government run health care does like the rest of the world. 0.82

01:57:00.000 I did.

01:57:00.000 Oh, my God.

01:57:01.000 Did you not hear me say something?

01:57:02.000 Where can I find it?

01:57:03.000 Hold on.

01:57:04.000 Can you hear me say it?

01:57:04.000 Wait, wait, wait.

01:57:05.000 Where can I find his plan on the internet right now?

01:57:07.000 I kind of want to.

01:57:08.000 Where can I find the other plan?

01:57:10.000 He has concepts of a plan. 0.96

01:57:11.000 You said that welfare destroyed the black family.

01:57:14.000 Explain an example of what that means.

01:57:16.000 I meant they started to incentivize the women to not have the men in the homes in order to receive money.

01:57:26.000 And the more kids they had, the more money they were going to get without the man being in a home. 1.00

01:57:29.000 The home is the first form of government.

01:57:31.000 If you don't have the father who is the leader, Be there now, it's run by those who shouldn't be running to home on their own.

01:57:36.000 Now, this is not the same thing as situations a guy leaves, he dies, or anything like that.

01:57:41.000 They literally the government came in and now the government has become the father. 0.63

01:57:45.000 I know police officers in Chicago and LA they get called for by single moms all the time because the dad isn't there to rear the children.

01:57:51.000 That has been a problem for 60 plus years.

01:57:54.000 And all I hear you screaming and those on the left is more of the same as if we're not looking and going, Hold on, if we're not looking and going, you just said more government programs and food stamps, bro, That these policies haven't worked for the black community.

01:58:10.000 I understand that the black family has been destroyed, but when will you learn to shut up and do as you're told? 0.96

01:58:16.000 Welcome to my life, brother. 0.98

01:58:18.000 Now, regarding the food stamp thing, you said he took people off food stamps.

01:58:21.000 Are you, I've heard that they've made it so like Pepsi isn't on food stamps.

01:58:25.000 When we're wrapping up, bro.

01:58:26.000 Unless you guys want to go for another two hours because it's a Friday night.

01:58:29.000 We party.

01:58:30.000 It's a Friday night, dude.

01:58:31.000 Let me just speak in general terms.

01:58:34.000 As we know, where the economy is at right now in most metrics, This is the point that I was trying to make.

01:58:40.000 We are worse off now than we were a year and a half ago.

01:58:43.000 We can talk about GDP growth.

01:58:44.000 We could talk about the Dow Jones and the SP 500.

01:58:49.000 There's a lot of different metrics that we can go through.

01:58:51.000 We can talk about inflation and in prices.

01:58:54.000 As I mentioned, 4.2%, it was 3%.

01:58:56.000 I agree. 0.95

01:58:57.000 Hold on a second.

01:58:57.000 But the point I'm trying to make is, and the GDP, which I had mentioned, the point I'm trying to make is we are worse off now economically than we were a year and a half ago.

01:59:06.000 Now, do I think it's great when people are on welfare?

01:59:08.000 No, I think most people would tell you they'd like to be working.

01:59:11.000 What I don't want in a society.

01:59:13.000 Do you remember the delivery driver, the food delivery grandma who went to the White House? 0.55

01:59:19.000 I don't want that grandmother to have to work two or three jobs.

01:59:22.000 I don't want to live in a country where that woman has to work two or three jobs to try to save her husband's life who's dying of cancer.

01:59:29.000 I don't either.

01:59:30.000 And the problem we have right now yes, a lot of people are struggling.

01:59:33.000 I know.

01:59:33.000 I want people to have access to government programs, especially now, to help them.

01:59:39.000 Hold on, hold on.

01:59:39.000 Let me just land my plane here.

01:59:40.000 Yeah, I'm leaving in the middle.

01:59:42.000 So I took my hat off.

01:59:43.000 I can't believe I did that.

01:59:44.000 Hey, so out of character.

01:59:46.000 You got me to take my hat off.

01:59:47.000 Yeah.

01:59:48.000 Listen, the bottom line is when we get into a war, all of a sudden, $2 billion a day, we can just print money for a war.

01:59:55.000 Republicans have no problem printing money for a war, but yet we give the biggest tax breaks to the top 1%.

02:00:00.000 And then the people that, as you said, are on the bottom of the barrel, I want those people to succeed.

02:00:04.000 I would assume you do too.

02:00:06.000 And yes, I don't want them to be on government programs their entire life.

02:00:09.000 But when you have a diabetic that needs to get insulin, okay, Donald Trump signed an executive order.

02:00:15.000 Barack Obama, or I'm sorry, Joe Biden, now I'm forgetting presidents.

02:00:19.000 Biden allowed under Plan B and Plan D of your medical coverage, millions of Americans getting insulin capped at $35.

02:00:25.000 Day one, Donald Trump signs an executive order, abolishes it, okay?

02:00:29.000 The problem I have is I want people in this country, in one of the richest countries in the world, to be able to afford health care.

02:00:36.000 49% of people right now that are working, 49% of people can't afford the health care that they are offered.

02:00:43.000 And I think it's something around 36 or 37% of people that are working.

02:00:46.000 These are not lazy people, aren't even offered health care.

02:00:50.000 So the point I was trying to make to you is this.

02:00:52.000 We've heard for 10 years, I'm going to have a plan in two weeks and a month.

02:00:56.000 We heard it in Donald Trump's first administration.

02:00:58.000 By the way, Trump got us $8.2 trillion in debt his first go around.

02:01:02.000 If you want to talk about fiscal responsibility, it ain't Republicans and it's not Donald Trump.

02:01:07.000 And I'm not saying Democrats are perfect either.

02:01:09.000 I never said they were perfect.

02:01:10.000 Not perfect, but Republicans get us more in debt if we're talking about our debt.

02:01:15.000 I want struggling Americans to be able to have a safety net and I have no problem paying taxes so that they have that safety net.

02:01:22.000 Do I want people on welfare their whole life?

02:01:24.000 Of course, I don't.

02:01:25.000 Are there going to be a small percentage of people that are going to take advantage of Medicaid?

02:01:30.000 Of course, there are.

02:01:31.000 But that doesn't mean I don't want those people having access.

02:01:34.000 Trump has said a plan is coming.

02:01:37.000 You can say all you want to that he said this, this, and this.

02:01:40.000 The bottom line is there has not been a replacement plan that has been shown to politicians in D.C.

02:01:46.000 He doesn't have a plan.

02:01:48.000 You think that part of the reason why healthcare, much like the college system, Once government got involved, inflated the prices.

02:01:58.000 And this goes back into the hand of government.

02:02:00.000 So a lot of those politicians.

02:02:01.000 I don't disagree with that.

02:02:02.000 So both right and left, well, hold on. 0.56

02:02:04.000 So both right and left, when this guy said on that debate stage, we just put it on the open market, the first thing I said in 2016 was, they're going to try to kill him.

02:02:12.000 And what have we seen since?

02:02:14.000 I would argue, with no evidence, that both sides do not want government health care to move away from government because they've been making money off it.

02:02:22.000 Can I give you a support to that corporate health care?

02:02:25.000 You can disagree with Obamacare.

02:02:25.000 Obama.

02:02:27.000 There's a lot of Americans that don't like it.

02:02:28.000 That's fine.

02:02:29.000 Okay, it's a plan that is not perfect, however, I want a replacement plan.

02:02:36.000 You have kids, right?

02:02:37.000 If your kid came up to you and said, Dad, uh, I have a problem, this is going on, blah As a responsible father, you would say, Okay, let's come up with a solution, right?

02:02:47.000 Okay, Donald Trump is the president of the United States, even when he was out of office, he could have brought people together and said, Let's actually come up with a replacement plan, let's present it to the American people, let's present it to Congress, and let's see what they think.

02:02:58.000 I would argue that's not.

02:03:00.000 He hasn't done that.

02:03:01.000 Honestly, I would argue again that the government on this subject, just like college, there is no will, just like the Save America Act on both sides.

02:03:09.000 Because I think it benefits, honestly, I think it benefits.

02:03:11.000 There's probably a cure to cancer, right?

02:03:12.000 There's probably a cure for diabetes right now.

02:03:14.000 I've had conversations.

02:03:15.000 There's a lot of money involved in this industry.

02:03:15.000 There's no will.

02:03:17.000 That's, I think, in the long run, that's where it comes to us.

02:03:20.000 We have a lot of problems in this country.

02:03:21.000 Wait, wait, hold on.

02:03:22.000 I heard, I agree.

02:03:23.000 Everyone's voices came down.

02:03:24.000 We're smiling at each other.

02:03:26.000 I think we're good.

02:03:28.000 I almost threw my hat at them, but I didn't.

02:03:30.000 Yeah, I would have caught it, though.

02:03:31.000 I've been working on my reflex.

02:03:33.000 You know, the thing with the debate shows is that obviously we're never going to be.

02:03:35.000 That's why people are so upset with me.

02:03:36.000 I'm always so calm.

02:03:37.000 There's never going to be a conclusion, any of the debates, other than we're out of time.

02:03:41.000 And so, but thanks to everybody who hung out for this passionate, heated, and entertaining Friday special. 0.98

02:03:41.000 Damn it. 0.98

02:03:48.000 You got me spitting today, bro. 1.00

02:03:49.000 Spitting everywhere, yelling. 0.53

02:03:51.000 That's assault. 0.90

02:03:51.000 You said that's assault. 0.90

02:03:52.000 It is.

02:03:53.000 Remember that?

02:03:53.000 Battery action.

02:03:54.000 I got to show you guys.

02:03:55.000 Next time you see us, I'll be wearing a Trump hat at the World Series of Poker with Tim Bull.

02:03:58.000 And I'll be taking a selfie with him next to him and all that good stuff.

02:04:01.000 Indeed, my friends.

02:04:03.000 But, you know, the only way to really wrap things up is just say thanks for hanging out.

02:04:06.000 We're out of time for this show.

02:04:08.000 Smash the like button, share the show with everyone.

02:04:09.000 You can follow me on X and Instagram at TimCast.

02:04:12.000 We'll play the trailer for you in a second.

02:04:14.000 But before we play, since we're running low on time, I brought some gifts.

02:04:17.000 I brought some gifts.

02:04:17.000 Oh, okay.

02:04:18.000 Well, let's have everybody go around and then we'll give you the final spot. 0.63

02:04:21.000 So, shout it out.

02:04:22.000 What do you got to say?

02:04:23.000 I'm always fun doing the show.

02:04:25.000 Always appreciate it.

02:04:26.000 And can't wait to hang out in Vegas.

02:04:28.000 And my name is Brian Shapiro.

02:04:31.000 I've been called Leprechaun, among other things.

02:04:33.000 I'm Ben.

02:04:34.000 Yeah, I've been called Lion Crying Brian is another one.

02:04:37.000 No, no, but you got called Brian.

02:04:38.000 Brian bought me that when I saw it.

02:04:39.000 That's where I heard on the screen.

02:04:40.000 Brian, yeah.

02:04:41.000 Lion Crying Brian.

02:04:42.000 At PTL Radio Show on YouTube.

02:04:45.000 The Pushing the Limits Facebook fan page.

02:04:49.000 And I do a show Monday through Friday, noon to two, Pacific Standard Time, YouTube and Facebook.

02:04:54.000 And I have a new Substack, Pushing the Limits, and then the number one.

02:04:58.000 And always fun kicking it back with you guys and having a good time.

02:05:01.000 Love it.

02:05:01.000 And love, I live for this.

02:05:03.000 Thank you for having me, everyone.

02:05:03.000 Thank you for coming.

02:05:05.000 Good time.

02:05:05.000 This is wonderful.

02:05:06.000 This is so cool.

02:05:07.000 He's such a cool dude.

02:05:07.000 Look at this guy.

02:05:08.000 He's such a cool guy.

02:05:09.000 He's sitting there today.

02:05:09.000 Look at him.

02:05:10.000 Look like a rock star, man.

02:05:11.000 Super cool.

02:05:11.000 Take it.

02:05:12.000 Keep it easy, baby.

02:05:13.000 Could you imagine if Phil was here today?

02:05:14.000 Oh my God.

02:05:15.000 That would have been great.

02:05:16.000 That would have been great.

02:05:18.000 We would have been playing.

02:05:19.000 We would have been double teamed.

02:05:20.000 When you guys got hit, yeah, um, Siaka Massequa, um, follow me on Instagram X and uh, where's there just one more, uh, YouTube at Siaka underscore Massequa or underscore Siaka Massequa.

02:05:33.000 Um, thank you guys always for being here, and actually, it was enjoyable because Brian is not as crazy on camera as off camera.

02:05:41.000 So, this I had to go in a well a few times, and that made me know he's not as crazy off as he is on.

02:05:46.000 I think he meant what he said.

02:05:47.000 Hold on, that's a lie, he's not as crazy off camera than not, right?

02:05:51.000 Yeah, he's right.

02:05:52.000 Both of you, that's a lie.

02:05:53.000 First of all, and you saw me.

02:05:55.000 At the UFC fight interviewing people, I was crazy.

02:05:58.000 Yes, yes, yes.

02:05:58.000 I've seen you at your.

02:05:59.000 Tim has seen me lose punk.

02:06:00.000 It's true.

02:06:02.000 And then they told him his Phil Halmuth is perfect.

02:06:04.000 They were like, wow.

02:06:06.000 But I will stress before the show starts, Brian's like, how far should I go?

02:06:11.000 I think people need to understand this.

02:06:14.000 I wouldn't call it that he's being fake.

02:06:16.000 It's that he's willing to be more polite if you request that he be.

02:06:19.000 Well, it's his show.

02:06:20.000 It's Tim's show.

02:06:21.000 There's personas too.

02:06:22.000 We're people, but we also have a persona and a role to play when the TV's on, which.

02:06:27.000 Like, people don't know this about me, but I'm actually Chinese and I normally speak with Chinese accent.

02:06:30.000 I talk like this outside.

02:06:31.000 That's true.

02:06:32.000 I like you so much.

02:06:33.000 I'm going to do that next person who walks up to me and says they know me. 0.59

02:06:36.000 I'm going to do a Chinese egg right here. 0.92

02:06:37.000 This right here is honestly going back to the 2020 real quick.

02:06:41.000 This right here is what I was wishing we did more of because they just shut it down.

02:06:45.000 That's my point. 1.00

02:06:46.000 But last thing before I go, you guys, I helped produce one Daily Wire's newest movie called Run, Hide, Fight Infidels. 1.00

02:06:53.000 Think you guys some crazy Islamic terrorists decide to. 0.99

02:06:57.000 Take over a college campus, and you know, we got some action pack stuff happening, it's like diehard on the college campus. 0.98

02:07:02.000 So, I brought hats for everyone.

02:07:04.000 Nice, oh, I'll definitely wear this, except for Brian because I knew he wouldn't like it.

02:07:09.000 But, no, just kidding, I had to give him one.

02:07:11.000 And, Brian, I think you're gonna like this movie because we actually have, and I just watched it recently, we have nothing but 90s music all over the world.

02:07:19.000 I love alternative, oh, yeah, it was playing, and you were telling me in the event.

02:07:23.000 I go, He's gonna play the trailer, we gotta be the only person probably in like, I don't know, I feel like I've only done it one other time in the last 10 years where I took my hat off.

02:07:31.000 Didn't that tell you?

02:07:31.000 That's what I do.

02:07:32.000 I kind of know how to disarm you.

02:07:33.000 I'm the only person who's ever given Brian a gift, actually.

02:07:35.000 That's true.

02:07:36.000 That wasn't herpes?

02:07:37.000 No, I was playing.

02:07:38.000 Gotta unmute it. 0.78

02:07:38.000 Ah! 0.78

02:07:40.000 The tab itself.

02:07:41.000 Yeah.

02:07:43.000 We got a trailer.

02:07:43.000 You go to Vegas, stay at Circus Circus.

02:07:45.000 If you lie in the bed, you might get herpes. 0.98

02:07:48.000 Radical Islam has designs openly on the West. 0.96

02:07:50.000 The FBI thwarted a terror plot on New Year's Eve. 1.00

02:07:53.000 Violent attack over the Halloween weekend in Michigan.

02:07:56.000 Protests on college campuses showing no signs of stopping.

02:08:01.000 And you

02:08:55.000 may even recognize a sheriff getting shot somewhere in the movies. 0.99

02:09:01.000 So it's a pro Muslim movie that is. 1.00

02:09:02.000 Oh, yeah.

02:09:03.000 Yeah.

02:09:03.000 It starts, we open up the Quran and just start with.

02:09:05.000 Man, you know what I'm excited for?

02:09:07.000 Spider Man.

02:09:09.000 I'm excited for Spider Man.

02:09:11.000 Spider Man?

02:09:12.000 Yeah.

02:09:12.000 Wait, no.

02:09:13.000 You're not excited for him?

02:09:14.000 I want one.

02:09:15.000 You're not excited for him?

02:09:16.000 You're not excited for him?

02:09:18.000 You're excited for him.

02:09:27.000 You're excited for him.

02:09:29.000 on Monday, and we'll see y'all then.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - July 03, 2026

Siaka VS Brian Shapiro Debate on J6, TRUMP, & COVID | Timcast IRL

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