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James Fishbeck joins the show to talk about the South Parkland shooting, Birthright citizenship being struck down by an appellate court, and why you should short companies that hire on merit. Plus, a new ETF that invests in S.&P 500 companies that only hire based on merit!


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00:02:16.000 After Colbert got canceled, it was announced that CBS Paramount was going to be giving $1.5 billion to the creators of South Park, which kind of seemed insane to anybody who knows anything about numbers.
00:02:29.000 $300 million a year.
00:02:31.000 Well, they put out their first episode, and it is mocking Donald Trump.
00:02:35.000 I'm going to give you my opinion right away.
00:02:37.000 I know a lot of people thought the episode was funny.
00:02:39.000 That's fine.
00:02:40.000 The jokes were old, 10 years old.
00:02:41.000 They don't make fun of Trump.
00:02:42.000 They don't make fun of administration.
00:02:43.000 They don't make fun of politics.
00:02:44.000 They literally just have Trump be Saddam Hussein, and then they say he has a tiny wiener.
00:02:49.000 That's the whole episode, except for the fact that they show it for real.
00:02:52.000 Just they show it for like 30 seconds.
00:02:55.000 That's what they're going for.
00:02:56.000 But in all seriousness, I think the strategy now of the anti-Trump left, the liberals, is going to be they got to go dirtbag left.
00:03:04.000 Woke was broke.
00:03:05.000 It didn't work.
00:03:06.000 But if you can be dirtbag offensive while being anti-Trump, that's the edgy that they're looking for.
00:03:12.000 So they give the South Park creators $1.5 billion, which seems to be the big story to talk about the current strategy of the anti-Trump media.
00:03:20.000 But there is actual big news.
00:03:22.000 Birthright citizenship, Trump's executive order, was struck down by an appellate court.
00:03:26.000 A brick of Garcia has been ordered, released.
00:03:29.000 Wow.
00:03:30.000 So we're going to talk about that.
00:03:31.000 Plus, we've got a lot more.
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00:04:42.000 We are joined today by James Fishbeck.
00:04:44.000 Great to be here, Tim.
00:04:45.000 Who are you?
00:04:46.000 What do you do?
00:04:46.000 I started an investment firm.
00:04:48.000 It's an anti-DEI investment firm called Azoria.
00:04:51.000 And we started an ETF that we launched two weeks ago that invests only in S ⁇ P 500 companies that hire on merit.
00:04:57.000 Crazy idea.
00:04:58.000 Oh, wow.
00:04:59.000 There was talk about this like a decade ago.
00:05:02.000 Companies that were introducing DEI policies.
00:05:05.000 I heard investors saying short those companies right away because any company that's going to prioritize ideology over the function of their business will lose money.
00:05:12.000 That's exactly right.
00:05:13.000 And so think of it this way, Tim, is if you knew a friend was going to start a coffee shop and you knew they were going to only hire a certain race or a certain gender, you would bet, right, Phil?
00:05:23.000 You'd bet against that coffee shop.
00:05:24.000 Oh, well, I walk into the coffee shop and you're about to hand them a check to buy a part of their business.
00:05:30.000 And they say, well, we don't hire everyone here.
00:05:34.000 We only hire black lesbians.
00:05:36.000 We only hire transgender dwarfs.
00:05:39.000 What would that do to the business model?
00:05:41.000 You wouldn't just not want to belong that business so as to profit from it.
00:05:45.000 You would actually want to go short and profit from its decline.
00:05:47.000 And so what the Azuria Meritocracy Fund does, the ticker is SPXM, it's an ETF that buys the same 500 stock as your S ⁇ P 500 ETF, but it does not buy Intel, Starbucks, Airbnb, Nike, and others that have just doubled down on these DEI quotas that say, look, we're not hiring on skill and merit anymore.
00:06:05.000 We're hiring on race and gender.
00:06:06.000 That hurts stock performance, and our investors don't want no part of it.
00:06:10.000 Right on.
00:06:11.000 It should be fun.
00:06:11.000 Thanks for joining us.
00:06:12.000 We'll talk about this, of course, the stock park stuff.
00:06:14.000 Mary is here.
00:06:15.000 Hi, everyone.
00:06:16.000 You can usually find me on Pop Culture Crisis here at Timcast.
00:06:19.000 I'm glad to be here.
00:06:20.000 And I would definitely support a coffee shop staffed just by white, straight males.
00:06:28.000 And six feet tall, six figures, and six pick.
00:06:31.000 No, that's not necessary.
00:06:32.000 I got a hand at all.
00:06:33.000 Yeah.
00:06:34.000 Is there a dress code at all?
00:06:36.000 I don't really accept the word cis.
00:06:38.000 That's not a real thing.
00:06:39.000 They could be straight white males.
00:06:41.000 What if they used the word cis?
00:06:43.000 That would be a deal breaker.
00:06:44.000 Okay, there you go.
00:06:45.000 Actually, you'd have to get like two weeks unpaid to leave your offer to be used to be like cis.
00:06:52.000 Hello, everybody.
00:06:53.000 My name is Phil Abante.
00:06:54.000 I'm the lead singer of the Heavy Metal Band All That Remains.
00:06:55.000 I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.
00:06:57.000 Let's get into it.
00:06:58.000 James, I'm going to actually...
00:07:06.000 I started that one, and what it does is it excludes.
00:07:09.000 So it excludes them because they're going to underperform.
00:07:12.000 The research we did, Phil, is the 38 companies in the S ⁇ P 500 that have these woke DEI policies, Nike, Airbnb, Starbucks, they've underperformed the stock market by 20 points over the last two years.
00:07:23.000 And so what that means is your S ⁇ P portfolio, your S ⁇ P ETF, whether it's from BlackRock, Vanguard, or State Street, it could have been doing a lot better had those 38 not been in there.
00:07:32.000 And so our goal at Azoria with SPXM is kick them out and let your portfolio ride just based on the companies that hire the best and brightest and never apologize for it.
00:07:42.000 If you hire a white male for the job or an Asian male, don't apologize for it.
00:07:46.000 Just do the right thing.
00:07:47.000 And by the way, the right thing oftentimes will be to hire someone who looks a little bit darker than us.
00:07:53.000 That's a meritocratic system is to stand up for the dignity of every American.
00:07:57.000 My mom's a legal immigrant from South America.
00:07:59.000 And one thing that she always told my sister and I is that she would never apply to a job that had a big flashy affirmative action program, Mary, because when she came home, she wanted to look us in the eye saying, I got the job for the right reason, not because I checked some arbitrary Cornell liberals checkbox for diversity arbitrariness.
00:08:17.000 Let's jump into that story from Variety.
00:08:19.000 White House bashes South Park after Trump parody.
00:08:23.000 This show hasn't been relevant for over 20 years and can't derail Trump's hot streak.
00:08:29.000 Okay, look, this was a clever play.
00:08:32.000 I literally don't care.
00:08:35.000 It's pretty obvious that the idea was we're going to make fun of Trump and put the anti-woke crowd and the edgy influencers and the podcast circuit in a bind.
00:08:44.000 You're allowed to make fun of Donald Trump.
00:08:46.000 They're going to do it poorly.
00:08:47.000 And you have no choice but to just accept it because it's just playful banter, right?
00:08:52.000 So I already had a lot of people telling me, oh, Tim, like, but come on, if you come out and say it was bad, you know what the left is going to say?
00:08:58.000 They're going to say, ha, ha, ha, you're, I don't care what they say.
00:09:02.000 This episode was garbage.
00:09:02.000 They're psychotic.
00:09:04.000 I watched the episode.
00:09:05.000 It's one of the worst episodes of South Park.
00:09:07.000 Not the worst.
00:09:08.000 Remember when, I don't know how familiar you guys are with South Park, Scott Tennerman ate his parents?
00:09:14.000 Like, ate his parents.
00:09:14.000 Yeah.
00:09:16.000 Cartman tricked his parents into being killed by a farmer, chopped their bodies up, and fed them to their own son.
00:09:24.000 South Park was crazy.
00:09:25.000 Now they did an episode where it's literally Donald Trump and because they had Mr. Garrison as Trump and they just, there's no jokes.
00:09:34.000 Now, to be fair, there are jokes, but they're not about Trump.
00:09:37.000 It's just they show naked cartoon Trump and everyone keeps saying he's a tiny penis.
00:09:41.000 And then he goes, come on, I'm going to seal you gang.
00:09:44.000 It's the same joke they made about Saddam.
00:09:46.000 They don't make any jokes about the administration, about Trump's policies.
00:09:51.000 It's jokes from 15 years ago.
00:09:53.000 Here's my bet.
00:09:54.000 Colbert gets canceled because they were spending $40, $50 million a year on anti-Trump commentary.
00:10:00.000 But this straight-laced, goody two-shoes BS does not work.
00:10:05.000 They've been talking about how they need a liberal Joe Rogan forever.
00:10:08.000 I'm willing to bet that these prominent liberal billionaires and corporate types were like, listen, why do people like Joe?
00:10:15.000 Because he's edgy.
00:10:16.000 He's off the cuff.
00:10:16.000 He'll say things you're not allowed to say.
00:10:18.000 How do we do this?
00:10:19.000 Well, Colbert ain't it.
00:10:21.000 Colbert is straight-laced and boring.
00:10:23.000 It's on the nose.
00:10:25.000 The South Park guys, $300 million per year they got in this deal.
00:10:30.000 Wow.
00:10:31.000 How does something like that happen?
00:10:34.000 Here's my vision.
00:10:35.000 They go to Matt and Trey and they say, we want you to go full-time South Park, mock Donald Trump, make him look bad.
00:10:43.000 And they went, why?
00:10:46.000 And they were like, we will pay you a lot of money.
00:10:48.000 What's a lot of money?
00:10:49.000 We will give you 30 million a year.
00:10:51.000 We don't need 30 million a year.
00:10:53.000 50 million a year.
00:10:54.000 Guys, we're rich.
00:10:55.000 We don't need 50 million a year.
00:10:57.000 Okay.
00:10:59.000 100 million a year.
00:11:00.000 And they're like, honestly, what am I going to do with that?
00:11:02.000 How about we give you 1.5 billion over five years?
00:11:05.000 And then Matt and Trey were like, really?
00:11:09.000 I imagine they were like, what do you want to do it?
00:11:12.000 We want shock content that mocks Trump.
00:11:15.000 Give me a billion dollars.
00:11:15.000 I don't know.
00:11:16.000 Done.
00:11:17.000 And they gave him a billion dollars.
00:11:19.000 Now, I don't know if that's actually what happened, but it seems pretty obvious.
00:11:22.000 The only problem is they're phoning it in.
00:11:24.000 They're phoning it in.
00:11:25.000 Here's my pitch.
00:11:26.000 I would have laughed my ass off if the episode started with Trump being asked about the Epstein files, panicking and shuffling all the press out of the room and banning them saying, you're banned.
00:11:34.000 I'm going to sue you.
00:11:35.000 And then runs to a bookshelf, pulls a book.
00:11:38.000 The shelf opens up.
00:11:40.000 He gets in an elevator, goes down to the basement, and there's Tulsi Gabbard, Rubio, and Trump trying to resurrect Mecca Epstein because they want to use the files and use the blackmail or something like that.
00:11:49.000 Instead, Trump's banging Satan.
00:11:52.000 That's it.
00:11:53.000 There's no jokes about anything that's happening.
00:11:56.000 Yeah, it's funny that you mentioned that because I feel like Trump is doing enough to make a fool out of himself lately that Matt and Trey don't need to do any work on that front.
00:12:05.000 And for 10 episodes a year at that, they scammed the shit out of it.
00:12:10.000 Paramount?
00:12:10.000 What was it?
00:12:11.000 Is that what it is?
00:12:11.000 10 episodes?
00:12:12.000 10 episodes a year.
00:12:13.000 I would take that check.
00:12:14.000 That is crazy.
00:12:15.000 I would take that check.
00:12:18.000 I didn't watch the episode, or I haven't watched the episode yet.
00:12:21.000 The fact that it's just, like, redoing the Saddam bit is kind of like...
00:12:26.000 You know, because they are generally like South Park has been really funny and really creative.
00:12:31.000 It's kind of like how bands sell out.
00:12:34.000 I mean, maybe.
00:12:35.000 They just lose that creative touch that they used to have for no explicable.
00:12:40.000 I mean, these guys have been doing it for now, what, 25 years or something?
00:12:42.000 You burn out.
00:12:43.000 Since 97.
00:12:44.000 So, I mean, 330 episodes in the show.
00:12:47.000 Last time I watched it, I was in middle school.
00:12:49.000 $30 million an episode.
00:12:51.000 Think about that.
00:12:51.000 $30 million an episode, Tim.
00:12:53.000 And that's all they could pull together.
00:12:55.000 The real way to think about a joke is if you can take that joke about Trump's penis or this, that, And the other, and you can swap out Trump with any other person you want to mock.
00:13:04.000 And it even remotely makes sense.
00:13:04.000 Yep.
00:13:06.000 It can't be funny.
00:13:06.000 They did a great job.
00:13:07.000 That sketch that he just brought up, that sketch.
00:13:09.000 That's a perfect sketch because it won, it only would apply to Trump.
00:13:12.000 You couldn't put anybody else in that sketch and it'd still be funny.
00:13:14.000 It's what they used to do.
00:13:15.000 Right.
00:13:15.000 It's what they used to do.
00:13:16.000 They've had their moments in the past few years.
00:13:18.000 They did a really good job making fun of Kathleen Kennedy at Lucasfilm.
00:13:23.000 And it was kind of nice to see that they were willing to punch at both sides.
00:13:27.000 But this is, you're making a good point based on what you're saying, James, is that the joke only applied to Kathleen Kennedy.
00:13:33.000 Cartman is sitting in a room and they're like, we want to do a movie about dogs.
00:13:36.000 Make it gay.
00:13:37.000 Make it a chick and make it gay.
00:13:39.000 And it's like, that's what she was doing.
00:13:41.000 That's what she was doing.
00:13:42.000 Having Trump just shake around a tiny wiener and try to bang Satan, it was literally just Saddam Wussy.
00:13:47.000 I think I was accused of that in seventh grade of having a tiny wiener and trying to bang Satan too, right?
00:13:51.000 It wasn't funny then to me because it was so tired.
00:13:53.000 What the?
00:13:54.000 But no, but I mean, like, that is the insult that gets tossed around, right?
00:13:58.000 Your mom is so fat, that kind of thing.
00:13:59.000 It can't be funny because it's so cliched.
00:14:02.000 So I actually think they're trying to bait Trump into criminal charges because they've published to YouTube and in the episode AI video of Trump total nudity.
00:14:14.000 Correct.
00:14:14.000 Like full frontal.
00:14:16.000 And he's looking down at his tiny wiener and then the penis talks.
00:14:22.000 And that's a violation of, what is it called?
00:14:24.000 The Take It Down Act.
00:14:25.000 Yeah.
00:14:26.000 To make sexual images using deep fake and publish it.
00:14:30.000 It was illegal.
00:14:30.000 It was bipartisan.
00:14:31.000 Usher by the First Lady.
00:14:32.000 Yeah, I think they're intentionally trying to bait Trump to get him to take action against him.
00:14:37.000 Instead, Trump just insults him and says, I don't know.
00:14:39.000 Yeah.
00:14:40.000 But I do think it should be illegal to publish AI-generated pornography of someone regardless of whether it's a politician.
00:14:49.000 Well, you got to be careful.
00:14:50.000 And this argument, they'd say it's not pornography.
00:14:51.000 Trump's just naked.
00:14:54.000 Take it down X says intimate images.
00:14:56.000 So it covers what they did.
00:14:58.000 Intimate images, meaning...
00:15:03.000 Okay, well, there you go.
00:15:04.000 But the left would argue pornography is something different.
00:15:08.000 What makes it different?
00:15:09.000 Pornography is implied to be sexual acts, not just nudity.
00:15:13.000 The implication is.
00:15:13.000 I mean, most OnlyFans pages these days are actually just naked photos.
00:15:18.000 So, I mean, it's still pornography.
00:15:20.000 Yeah, the difference is the intention for sexual titillation.
00:15:24.000 And if you argue that nudity, the intention with this was not to get people off.
00:15:27.000 It was mockery.
00:15:28.000 Right.
00:15:28.000 I understand that, but still.
00:15:31.000 I agree.
00:15:32.000 I mean, I don't know if Trump should take action against them.
00:15:36.000 I'd actually say like this.
00:15:38.000 This is the law.
00:15:39.000 It was bipartisan.
00:15:40.000 Democrats and Republicans agreed on it.
00:15:41.000 So why would Trump not enforce the law?
00:15:45.000 He's not banning TikTok and he should.
00:15:47.000 If he's going to have personal reasons for not enforcing the law, I guess.
00:15:51.000 On the TikTok front, I thought they were buying out the U.S. assets and making it into MDT.
00:15:56.000 Who's they, though?
00:15:58.000 I forget who the list of buyers included.
00:16:01.000 The point is that Trump has continually given them extensions, despite the fact that it should have been shut down.
00:16:06.000 The decision was made, though.
00:16:07.000 It was only a couple of weeks ago.
00:16:09.000 And when the law was first enacted, Trump said, I'm not going to enforce the law.
00:16:09.000 Right.
00:16:13.000 And then when the month was up, he says, I'm not going to enforce the law.
00:16:16.000 And now they have a decision.
00:16:19.000 Right.
00:16:19.000 So Trump makes decisions when he should or should not enforce the law.
00:16:22.000 It's what the executive does, I guess.
00:16:24.000 In this regard, it violates the Take It Down Act.
00:16:27.000 Trump could just say, take it down.
00:16:29.000 Fine them.
00:16:31.000 But then they're going to be like, when you offended conservatives?
00:16:34.000 But that's what they want.
00:16:36.000 They wanted to bait us in that, Phil.
00:16:37.000 They wanted to bait us into that.
00:16:38.000 Same people that yelled Snowflake cancel culture trying to cancel a comedy show.
00:16:43.000 That's why the episode's not funny.
00:16:45.000 Correct.
00:16:46.000 There were a few chuckles.
00:16:48.000 Cartman is upset that Woke is dead and he has nothing to do anymore.
00:16:51.000 So I guess they're mocking anti-woke media or something.
00:16:56.000 And then he says, you know, he threatens to kill himself and Butters.
00:17:00.000 And so there were a little bit of chuckles there, but it's kind of weak.
00:17:03.000 But I will give him that.
00:17:04.000 Cartman being upset that Woke is dead was an actual joke on satirizing the current state of affairs.
00:17:10.000 That he had nothing to do anymore.
00:17:10.000 Yeah.
00:17:11.000 His activism was over.
00:17:13.000 The Trump stuff was literally just, it was dejected.
00:17:16.000 It jumped from scene to scene that made no sense.
00:17:18.000 Like one scene is at a party, and there's a weird song saying, Christ makes money, Christ makes money.
00:17:24.000 And like a big component of the show is they're mocking Jesus.
00:17:29.000 The issue that the citizens of South Park are angry with at Trump, the reason why they want to riot, is because Trump mandates prayer in school.
00:17:37.000 And Stan won't, he says, we don't have any room at our table for Jesus.
00:17:42.000 So politically correct principal is now power Christian principal.
00:17:47.000 And they ask him why he's a Christian, and he says it feels right.
00:17:50.000 Then they show Trump at a pool where it's singing a song where they're going, Christ makes money, Christ makes money.
00:17:55.000 And then for seemingly no reason, Trump is now inside the White House where Pam Bondi says your supporters are mad.
00:18:01.000 Then he, Saddam Hussein voices, gets on the phone.
00:18:04.000 They threaten him for some reason, but none of it really makes sense as to why they're mad at him because it's not about Epstein.
00:18:08.000 They don't say anything.
00:18:09.000 It's almost like the episode was made before, like this week, and they knew what was going on in the news cycle.
00:18:16.000 You know, South Park, Notorious, was famous for getting all their episodes done in four days or something like that.
00:18:22.000 This one didn't address anything or mock anything in particular.
00:18:27.000 They just kind of, and then at the end, Jesus shows up and stands on a giant loaf of bread and then is talking under his breath about how he has no choice but to come to the people of South Park and perform a sermon because Trump's threatening to sue him.
00:18:41.000 And then the people of South Park panic because Jesus tells them Trump will sue him.
00:18:45.000 So they agree to settle with Trump.
00:18:48.000 And in the settlement, they have to make a PSA about how great Trump is.
00:18:51.000 And it's just an AI video live action of Donald Trump fully naked.
00:18:54.000 And you watch him walking buck naked to the desert.
00:18:57.000 And then he stares at his penis for like 30 seconds.
00:18:59.000 This sounds like a fever dream.
00:19:01.000 Sounds like they didn't actually want to do anything and got $30 million.
00:19:04.000 So here's a question for you guys.
00:19:06.000 If they offered you $1.5 billion to do this, would you do it?
00:19:11.000 To do what?
00:19:11.000 To make South Park?
00:19:13.000 I mean...
00:19:18.000 Oh, no.
00:19:19.000 $1.5 billion.
00:19:19.000 No.
00:19:22.000 There are plenty of better ways to mock Trump.
00:19:24.000 So, yes.
00:19:26.000 How would you mock Trump?
00:19:27.000 I mean, I think that he's making a fool of himself lately, and there are plenty of opportunities to write jokes out of that.
00:19:34.000 I mean, I don't know, not Matt and Trey, but.
00:19:37.000 Amnesty on Farm Workers.
00:19:38.000 Do you disagree?
00:19:39.000 No, I do disagree, yeah.
00:19:41.000 So the Amnesty on Farm Workers point, I think we can talk a little bit about that, but I think look at what Salazar tried to do a week and a half ago with the so-called Dignity Act, right?
00:19:48.000 You've seen this, of course, right?
00:19:49.000 Maria Salazar, the Republican congresswoman from Florida.
00:19:52.000 She's trying to pass a bill that says that if you've been in this country for even upwards of 30 years illegally, you only have to pay a $7,000 fine and you get to stay here indefinitely.
00:20:03.000 The president's opposed to that.
00:20:04.000 And so the idea that we would give amnesty to anyone to be allowed to stay here to continue to take American jobs, take American benefits, whether it's Medicaid or education or healthcare, I think the president's against that.
00:20:17.000 Well, I was trying not to say the E-word, but I was more so referring to the Epstein-related concept.
00:20:24.000 What would you want him to do on Epstein a little bit differently?
00:20:27.000 Literally everything.
00:20:28.000 How about not lie?
00:20:29.000 What did he lie about?
00:20:30.000 He's outwardly lying to the American people, saying that it's a hoax, and then telling them that they are traitors to his movement for asking very reasonable questions.
00:20:43.000 Do you really feel like totally okay with the way he's handled this situation?
00:20:46.000 Look, I think that I would lay the blame at Pam Bondi for setting expectations a certain way when she said, they're on my desk and handed out a bunch of phony binders to a bunch of influencers.
00:20:56.000 That's laughable.
00:20:57.000 I think Pam Bondi is getting scapegoated.
00:20:59.000 Like, okay, sure, she looks idiotic, but the buck stops with Trump.
00:21:03.000 And he overpromised and knew that he was overpromising on this.
00:21:07.000 When did he overpromise?
00:21:08.000 Prior to the election, he was asked, are you going to unseal the JFK documents?
00:21:13.000 Are you going to unseal the MLK files?
00:21:16.000 And then once it got to Epstein, he said, yeah.
00:21:21.000 But like, you know, there might be some innocent people in there.
00:21:24.000 You know, we want to kind of, you know, have a common sense approach, you know, and then I could tell from that moment on that he wasn't going to follow through on that promise.
00:21:34.000 And it's gotten worse than just not following through because they shouldn't have even addressed it if they weren't planning to follow through.
00:21:40.000 It shouldn't have even been mentioned.
00:21:41.000 It's also not a popularly, like, it's not a voting issue.
00:21:45.000 No one voted on it.
00:21:48.000 And now we've gotten to the point where they are just piling lie on top of lie on top of lie.
00:21:55.000 And it's kind of pathetic to watch Trump doubling down every single day, as well as his supporters, some of whom are trying to maintain the access they have to him and the rest of the White House, people who either have jobs there already or want jobs there.
00:22:13.000 Sure.
00:22:14.000 Look, I get where you're coming from.
00:22:16.000 It's frustrating.
00:22:17.000 What I will say is this, though.
00:22:19.000 When we say what the, and by the way, that interview was Fox News.
00:22:22.000 Rachel Campo-Stuffy asked President Trump in that interview.
00:22:24.000 He went Fox, went JFK, MLK, and then asked about the Epstein files.
00:22:29.000 Here's the issue with the Epstein files for just a moment.
00:22:32.000 You have grand jury transcripts, you have FBI transcripts where all things, all sorts of things were said.
00:22:38.000 I'll give you just one example.
00:22:39.000 Matt Gaetz, as we all know, was investigated by the Department of Justice and the FBI for allegedly sex trafficking teenagers across state lines, federal sex trafficking law.
00:22:51.000 He was not charged.
00:22:53.000 Do you believe that they should release the Matt Gaetz files, the DOJ?
00:22:56.000 Okay.
00:22:57.000 Are you saying that those are comparable situations?
00:22:59.000 No, I'm not saying at all.
00:23:00.000 I'm not saying at all.
00:23:01.000 But what I am saying here is that in both of those cases, one is not being charged.
00:23:07.000 The other is beyond the statute of limitation.
00:23:09.000 So give me an example.
00:23:10.000 If we had video right now that conclusively proved that Bill Clinton, who was an absolute sick man, did in fact sex trafficking young girls, the statute of limitations on that is eight years.
00:23:23.000 Yeah.
00:23:24.000 Right?
00:23:25.000 You cannot bring a case against that individual for that.
00:23:28.000 Then they should publish the videos.
00:23:30.000 No one was really expecting that.
00:23:34.000 Bill Clinton charged past statute of limitations without proper evidence.
00:23:39.000 The reason for wanting the files to be released is for exactly this point.
00:23:43.000 Yeah.
00:23:44.000 So if there's video of Clinton abusing girls, yeah, we're not going to release that.
00:23:48.000 If there's video evidence of him doing some kind of business transaction and loading girls into a van or whatever, you blur it and you release it.
00:23:48.000 Sure.
00:23:56.000 Absolutely.
00:23:56.000 So that's why people want the Epstein stuff released.
00:23:59.000 Also, the child abuse aspect of it obviously is horrific, but I almost think that it is being used as the salacious tabloid version of what we're really talking about, which is a blackmail ring that allegedly controls the policies and statements and votes of all of our leaders.
00:24:22.000 And child abuse just happens to be the vehicle for it.
00:24:28.000 So I think there's maybe a little bit too much focus on the salacious nature of it and not on the substance of the issue, which is a blackmail operation run by Epstein, who is allegedly an intelligence asset for some government, probably Mossad.
00:24:47.000 That's the substance of the issue.
00:24:48.000 So that, well, that, I mean, that's what people believe, or that's part of what people believe, but is that what you believe as well?
00:24:56.000 I don't know.
00:24:57.000 I'm not going to claim to know.
00:24:58.000 I'm not going to sit here and claim that I know anything, especially because they haven't released these details, and they won't.
00:25:04.000 That's why I asked if that's what you believe, not what you not.
00:25:07.000 I'm not asking.
00:25:08.000 I believe there's strong evidence for it, but I'm certainly no expert, but neither are any of the people who are rightfully demanding this information.
00:25:15.000 But what if the FBI interviewed a Democratic operative, someone who hated Trump in, say, 2015, 2016, who lied, knowingly lied to the FBI about all these salacious allegations?
00:25:28.000 That would be released under the Epstein files as well as an FBI interview that was undertaken by someone who was knowingly lying, right?
00:25:35.000 And look, the president asked this grand jury transcript to be released in the Southern District of Florida.
00:25:40.000 The judge denied that from being unsealed.
00:25:43.000 I'm with you on this.
00:25:45.000 We need to get to the bottom of it.
00:25:46.000 But I think the question is, what do we mean by the Epstein files?
00:25:49.000 What does that actually mean?
00:25:50.000 So if we drop that PDF on your computer, what's going to be in there?
00:25:54.000 What type of documents?
00:25:55.000 Okay, no one thought that Epstein had an Excel spreadsheet on his computer That had like my clients, number one, Bill Clinton, number two, Donald Trump.
00:26:05.000 Like, nobody thought there was a spreadsheet of clients.
00:26:08.000 But this guy was inviting politicians and public figures and celebrities to his home and had cameras rolling the entire time and had prostitutes there who were underage.
00:26:22.000 This is a point that I made the other night or whatever.
00:26:25.000 Like, when people say Epstein list, what they're conceptualizing differs significantly from one person to the next and to the next.
00:26:33.000 Correct.
00:26:33.000 Some people believe that it's a list of people that actually engaged in sexual activity with minors.
00:26:40.000 Some people think it's a list of people that are being blackmailed.
00:26:43.000 Some people think that it's just a list of people that have been to the island and a list.
00:26:47.000 And some people think it's just a list of people that have flown on his jet.
00:26:51.000 And that's actually even already been disclosed.
00:26:54.000 I don't know which one is right, but I do know that there's a wide variety of what people conceptualize when it comes to Jeffrey Epstein.
00:27:04.000 We should have the unredacted files of each one of those categories that you mentioned.
00:27:11.000 I don't think there is unredacted files of all of those.
00:27:16.000 I think that there's some kind of list of associates, but I don't know that they're a list of people that he was blackmailing.
00:27:22.000 I don't know if it's a list of people that had engaged in sexual activity with minors.
00:27:28.000 I don't, you know, rape of minors.
00:27:29.000 I don't know what it is.
00:27:30.000 I'm just saying that people have a different conception of what has actually happened.
00:27:37.000 And I think that there are two groups of people, and I've said this before, but there are two groups of people that are really passionate about it.
00:27:43.000 And they're small groups of people, but they're extremely vocal.
00:27:45.000 There are the people that...
00:27:54.000 And sorry to interrupt, but it's fine.
00:27:56.000 The question I was having is, would you accept $1.5 billion in order to insult Donald Trump?
00:28:01.000 Mary said yes.
00:28:02.000 The question was, what could you mock him for?
00:28:05.000 And then it turned into a debate over the Epstein files again.
00:28:09.000 I would mock him for that, yes.
00:28:11.000 I agree.
00:28:12.000 I agree.
00:28:13.000 Trump could be mocked over the Epstein files.
00:28:15.000 And that's my principal complaint with the South Park episode is that they didn't mock him over anything.
00:28:18.000 I mean, I think that's low-hanging fruit.
00:28:18.000 Correct.
00:28:20.000 I think I would have mocked Pam Bondi for having these binders that information that was six, seven years old, and having influencers pose with them.
00:28:26.000 That would be a really funny scene to mock.
00:28:28.000 They could have made fun of the lists on my desk.
00:28:31.000 Yes.
00:28:32.000 They could have had Eric, Stan, Kyle, and Cartman go to the White House and walk out holding up the binders.
00:28:37.000 Exactly.
00:28:38.000 And inside the binders, it's just pictures of crudely drawn crayon cats like Trump made.
00:28:38.000 That'd be hilarious.
00:28:44.000 They could have done a bunch of stuff.
00:28:47.000 You could have had the Wall Street Journal so-called letter, right?
00:28:50.000 And joked about that.
00:28:51.000 But Mary, I see where you're coming from, and I share the frustration.
00:28:54.000 But if you care about, and I know that you do, about this issue of transparency, we have a president who's taken more questions in the last 48 hours than it seems like Joe Biden did in four years.
00:29:05.000 We have a president who shut down the southern border where tens of thousands of women every single week were being trafficked into sex slavery.
00:29:12.000 This has been a president who stood up for women.
00:29:14.000 I want to see more done on the Epstein files, but I agree with Phil.
00:29:17.000 We have to understand first and foremost what that means.
00:29:20.000 I grew up in South Florida.
00:29:21.000 There is a world in which I could have easily crossed paths with Epstein and had lunch with him as I was soliciting a donation for my nonprofit or my hedge fund.
00:29:29.000 He was, you know, had I not, I don't run background checks on folks before I meet with them.
00:29:33.000 So I think there's a world in which we're going to end up hurting people who end up getting lumped into these files.
00:29:38.000 Oh, the files are anybody who ever emailed with Epstein over the last 10 years prior to him being killed.
00:29:44.000 And make no mistake, he was killed.
00:29:46.000 Jeffrey Epstein was killed.
00:29:47.000 There's no doubt about that.
00:29:50.000 I mean, if you ask Captain Town.
00:29:51.000 Since we're talking about South Park, though, my question is, is that something they wanted to write?
00:29:58.000 Is that an episode that they wanted to write, but were told explicitly by executives at the network that they were not allowed to write?
00:30:06.000 Because I think that's plausible.
00:30:09.000 I mean, maybe it was, but I take, I will, like, Tim's point is well taken.
00:30:18.000 They did have a plethora of things that they could have talked about.
00:30:22.000 Seamus does it all the time.
00:30:23.000 Every, what, once a week?
00:30:25.000 Seamus is independent.
00:30:26.000 They are not.
00:30:27.000 They are under the drum of this network that probably wouldn't want them to touch certain subjects.
00:30:34.000 I think they're lazy and checked out.
00:30:36.000 And these old boomer fogies, I'm not blaming all boomers.
00:30:40.000 I'm saying there's a bunch of boomers who are like, we don't know how to be funny and edgy.
00:30:40.000 Calm down.
00:30:44.000 Let's hire the South Park guys.
00:30:45.000 They're young and fun.
00:30:46.000 It's like they're 60 or whatever.
00:30:49.000 What are they 50s?
00:30:49.000 I don't know.
00:30:50.000 They're in their 50s.
00:30:51.000 They're probably, I think they're older than me, so they're in their 50s.
00:30:53.000 And they were like, they're funny.
00:30:54.000 They were funny in the 90s, dude.
00:30:57.000 When did that show start 94 or something?
00:31:00.000 97 or something like that.
00:31:01.000 96.
00:31:02.000 97.
00:31:03.000 97.
00:31:04.000 And they had a good run in the early 2000s, and it's been all downhill since then.
00:31:11.000 They've got some good episodes.
00:31:13.000 The Obama Diamond Heist was funny.
00:31:15.000 Yeah.
00:31:15.000 Remember Kanye?
00:31:16.000 Yeah.
00:31:17.000 Fish sticks.
00:31:18.000 Hilarious sticks.
00:31:19.000 Yep.
00:31:20.000 They had a bunch.
00:31:21.000 And the point of that was that he couldn't understand what they were saying in the joke, and he was taking everything personally.
00:31:28.000 They don't mock Trump.
00:31:29.000 And you know what?
00:31:30.000 At most, it was a unique joke to Yay.
00:31:34.000 Yeah.
00:31:35.000 With Trump, they were just like, I don't know.
00:31:37.000 He's got a small dick.
00:31:39.000 Just show it.
00:31:40.000 Yeah.
00:31:40.000 It's like, guys, you could be funny.
00:31:44.000 But let's jump to this next story.
00:31:46.000 We got this from Politico.
00:31:47.000 Judge orders Kilmar Obrego Garcia released from criminal custody.
00:31:51.000 Well, that's insane.
00:31:52.000 Though immigration enforcement officials signaled that he's likely to be redetained when he arrives in Maryland.
00:31:56.000 I love this because my question is just like, look, guys, I don't want to be pessimistic.
00:32:02.000 I do know that we have a lot of great victories to the Trump administration, but holy crap.
00:32:05.000 Come on.
00:32:06.000 Well, I mean, to be fair, this can't be laid at the feet of the Trump administration.
00:32:12.000 Well, because this is...
00:32:13.000 They brought him back.
00:32:14.000 No, these are the people that are releasing him.
00:32:17.000 I'm talking about this particular thing, the release of him.
00:32:19.000 Trump brought him back.
00:32:20.000 Yes, fine.
00:32:21.000 That can be laid at the feet of the Trump administration.
00:32:23.000 But the release of him can't be.
00:32:26.000 They should have left him at Seacot or whatever it is down in.
00:32:30.000 Of course, this is his fault.
00:32:32.000 The immediate assumption is: if you return the Maryland man to the United States, they're going to release him.
00:32:37.000 Trump's DOJ knew that.
00:32:39.000 Are they this weak that they can't deport a guy charged with human smuggling, a known member of MS-13?
00:32:45.000 They can't deport a guy back to his home country.
00:32:47.000 This is absolutely insane.
00:32:48.000 This is what's so frustrating.
00:32:49.000 It's like nothing can be Trump's fault and nothing can be Trump administration's fault.
00:32:53.000 That's how it feels these days.
00:32:54.000 So it's scrolling through the timeline is all of these people making excuses.
00:32:59.000 I disagree.
00:33:00.000 I think that most people that are talking about specifically the Epstein file stuff, like that's everyone is calling it Trump, the Trump administration's fault.
00:33:08.000 But when it comes to like, when it comes to this, yes, okay, so fine.
00:33:11.000 If you want to lay this at Trump's feet, the Garcia stuff, fine.
00:33:15.000 But it's not like they're not deporting people.
00:33:18.000 Now, I understand that you have a problem.
00:33:20.000 I know, roll your eyes because you don't think they're deporting enough.
00:33:22.000 But like they've done really, really significant work at the border.
00:33:29.000 There were like no crossing last week.
00:33:31.000 My point was always just 14,000 in a month is not mass deportations.
00:33:38.000 And it's not even like a fraction that if we kept going with numbers like that, that would be way less than a million in his entire term.
00:33:49.000 We have a million self-deportations.
00:33:50.000 Yeah.
00:33:51.000 A million people logging onto the CBP home app at CBP1, taking the $1,000 check and saying, I'm going to take my trip back.
00:33:58.000 You know why?
00:33:59.000 Because they've not learned.
00:34:00.000 That's not what anyone voted for.
00:34:02.000 We voted for them to leave.
00:34:03.000 We didn't vote for them to leave in a certain way.
00:34:05.000 They've not formally published that.
00:34:08.000 I think only Trump has said it.
00:34:09.000 Trump and Christine Noam.
00:34:11.000 They've not formally, through records in the DHS, drafted the report of like the total.
00:34:16.000 I don't think ICE is published.
00:34:18.000 We tried fact-checking this and we couldn't find anything other than a quote from, I think, like Christine Omen Trump.
00:34:22.000 No, like, everything Trump does is so great.
00:34:25.000 No, no one's saying that.
00:34:26.000 Like, it's just no, no one's saying that.
00:34:28.000 Trump can't do anything wrong.
00:34:29.000 When will you understand this?
00:34:31.000 I need to understand this.
00:34:32.000 I need to go to the re-education camp.
00:34:34.000 I need to go to Alligator Alcatraz.
00:34:36.000 Well, the point of Alligator Alcatraz is truth and good incarnate.
00:34:40.000 And that means if he does it, it's true and good.
00:34:42.000 Maybe, look, maybe I have a different perspective because I am looking at what is going on in comparison to what the option was, right?
00:34:51.000 Like if the option is Donald Trump or Kamala Harris and four more years of Democrats and four more years of unlimited immigration and four more years of more DEI programs in the government, the things that have changed since Donald Trump has been elected are massive and it is significantly better than the option.
00:35:12.000 And we only had two options.
00:35:14.000 It's not like there was a third option that we could have gone with.
00:35:17.000 We should compare Trump and the actions of his administration, not to what could have been if Kamala won, but what he promised.
00:35:28.000 We should compare Trump to Trump.
00:35:30.000 We should compare Trump's actions to Trump's words.
00:35:32.000 He should be compared realistically.
00:35:35.000 Realistically, considering you're talking about politics in Washington, D.C., he should be compared to every single president before him.
00:35:42.000 How much has any other president gotten done in the first six months?
00:35:47.000 And they're all on the Epsde list.
00:35:49.000 Fine.
00:35:50.000 But like, legitimately, like, I understand that you're saying, well, Trump made all these promises and he hasn't done enough to make me feel like he's actually following through.
00:36:01.000 Fair enough, okay?
00:36:02.000 But you also have to deal with the fact that like there is a way that things get done in D.C. Like no one wants to look at how sausage is made.
00:36:11.000 And this is something that I've talked about prior to Trump getting elected or early when he got elected.
00:36:15.000 Like we only have a narrow majority in both the House and the Senate, right?
00:36:21.000 You have to, you can't get a bunch of stuff passed if you don't have 60 senators.
00:36:26.000 And there are not 60 senators.
00:36:28.000 They have three, it's 53 with J.D. Vance and two of them are as wishy-washy as it comes, right?
00:36:35.000 And then in the House, I think they have like 10.
00:36:37.000 I'm not sure what the lead is, but eight.
00:36:39.000 So there is a process that must happen in the House and in the Senate before things can get done.
00:36:46.000 Trump has done a significant amount of stuff through executive order.
00:36:51.000 The government has not been smaller in 30 or 40 years, I think, since the creation of Homeland Security and since 9-11 at least.
00:37:02.000 There are significant things that have happened.
00:37:03.000 Now, I can totally respect the idea that he's not doing as much as you want or as much as he promised.
00:37:10.000 But to say that he's not doing things or to say that there's like he's a failure when he's six months in and has done more than any other president in this amount of time, I think that's not, I just don't think that's.
00:37:22.000 He's hired 26,000 IRS agents.
00:37:24.000 Yeah, that's one of the things that he's done.
00:37:25.000 So again, you can be, I understand people that are critical and saying that, oh, he needs to do more, but the idea that, oh, he's not done anything, he's terrible, blah, blah, blah, like that is just not true, especially when you compare him to the reality of what other presidents have done and the resistance that he's getting in Washington, D.C. I don't know if I'm even saying he's terrible, he fails at everything, blah, blah, blah, as you were saying.
00:37:54.000 I just want to consider that six months is a longer time than you seem to be framing it, especially considering that as soon as the clock strikes 12 for 2026, all anyone is going to be thinking about is the midterms.
00:38:12.000 And then by the time those are over, all anyone's going to be thinking about is who's running in 2028.
00:38:16.000 You're 100% right.
00:38:17.000 And that's something that we've talked about here.
00:38:21.000 That's all he's got.
00:38:21.000 18 months.
00:38:23.000 And I've said multiple times.
00:38:24.000 If he's going to go after Obama, it has to be in the next couple of months.
00:38:28.000 When it comes to the Obama stuff, I've been reading some of this stuff, and I'm not 100% sure that there's an actual crime.
00:38:34.000 It's immoral and it's bad.
00:38:36.000 There is.
00:38:37.000 I'm not sure what the actual statute they charge him on.
00:38:40.000 So I'll tell you, Phil.
00:38:42.000 It is Trump looks at the statutes, figures out which one makes the most sense, tells a jury to pick the crime that they want, and they charge Obama with it like they did to Trump.
00:38:50.000 The standard that was created by Democrats is they can bring anybody they want to court and tell the jury, we have no evidence of any underlying crimes.
00:38:58.000 You decide if a crime was committed and then tell if it's guilty or not.
00:39:01.000 And then when they do it in West Virginia and everyone goes, sure, he's guilty of, I don't know, jaywalking and murder and whatever else.
00:39:09.000 It doesn't matter what the crime is.
00:39:11.000 All that matters is you agree Obama's guilty.
00:39:13.000 I'm completely comfortable with that.
00:39:15.000 Because that was the standard set by the Democrats.
00:39:17.000 So, first, as Mike Davis pointed out, you have potentially conspiracy against rights.
00:39:21.000 That is, in the documents that were released, let me tell you what CNN has been doing.
00:39:26.000 There's two IC assessments.
00:39:28.000 There's a 2016 Russia interference assessment and the 2020 post-Russia Gate assessment.
00:39:36.000 The 2020 assessment says that Barack Obama knew that the intelligence they had was raw and bad and did not meet the standard for publishing as it was uncorroborated and it was a sentenced fragment they could not corroborate, but ordered Brennan to publish it anyway.
00:39:52.000 What did Brennan do?
00:39:54.000 Despite all of everything they were saying, now you can make the argument, oh, okay, well, you know, never attribute to malice that which can be explained by incompetence.
00:40:01.000 Nobody's going to believe that.
00:40:01.000 Obama is just dumb.
00:40:02.000 Nobody's going to believe that.
00:40:03.000 No sane, rational person is going to go, Obama was just a bumbling moron.
00:40:08.000 No, Obama intentionally had them release information as a predicate for the RussiaGate hoax, which resulted in the arrest of several of Trump's associates, falsified evidence against Carter Page, Ukraine leaking damning information against Manafort, and then not to mention Flynn, Papadopoulos, and Trump himself, who they targeted him for three years as a potential traitor to this country.
00:40:32.000 If that's not a crime, you want to tell me that there's some dude who like bashed an ATM up and is going to jail?
00:40:37.000 I got to tell you, the dude who grabbed $73 out of a cash register at Bodega did substantially less damage to this country than Barack Obama did.
00:40:46.000 The Jay Sixers who peacefully walked around the Capitol for 20 minutes.
00:40:49.000 In the velvet ropes.
00:40:51.000 Exactly.
00:40:52.000 They behave themselves unlike BLM.
00:40:53.000 Conspiracy against rights is the easiest if you're trying to be a paladin.
00:40:59.000 If you want to be a rogue who wins, it is, I don't know, pick and choose.
00:41:03.000 We can probably get them on a lot of things.
00:41:06.000 But look at that.
00:41:06.000 The nature of politics is what irks me about the Republican Party.
00:41:11.000 The Republican Party pretends that the nature of politics is, well, let me take a look at this here piece of paper.
00:41:18.000 Let's see what we got here.
00:41:19.000 It says here that we can't charge Obama.
00:41:22.000 Dratz after everything he did.
00:41:25.000 Looks like he got away with it.
00:41:27.000 Democrats go like, the law says that, anyway, arrest him.
00:41:33.000 That's how the Democrats run.
00:41:35.000 I'm in 100% agreement with if they can come up with something, then I'm perfectly fine with it.
00:41:43.000 Because go ahead.
00:41:44.000 What they can do, Phil, right away is they can subpoena Obama to appear before Congress.
00:41:49.000 Obama will lie under oath, as he has time and again, and then hit him with the same thing he hit everyone else with.
00:41:54.000 All the jury traps.
00:41:55.000 All the perjury traps.
00:41:56.000 By the way, Fauci, we know he perjured himself before the House committees on the question of gain of fighting.
00:42:02.000 Why aren't they arresting him?
00:42:03.000 Why is Cash Patel not at Fauci's door in Glover Park with an FBI squad taking him into custody?
00:42:09.000 How many conservatives have they thrown in prison because of that?
00:42:11.000 Right?
00:42:12.000 And so Fauci, charge him tomorrow, but Obama just subpoena him.
00:42:16.000 Can you imagine, by the way, House Republicans and Senate Republicans grilling Obama the optics of that, having to explain himself?
00:42:23.000 It'll be the most watched congressional testimony.
00:42:25.000 The second one says something.
00:42:27.000 Have cashed him.
00:42:28.000 Have cash and Dan Bongino take him into cuffs right after the campaign meeting's over.
00:42:33.000 They won't do it.
00:42:34.000 Why?
00:42:34.000 They won't do it.
00:42:35.000 Mike Cernovich made a great point today.
00:42:36.000 He said with, you know, Thomas Massey, he's got this picture of him with this binder on the Epstein files.
00:42:42.000 How come none of these people, these Democrats or Republicans who want the Epstein files released, have had any hearings on Epstein and called in the prosecutors, Comey's daughter, perhaps, or even people like him to testify as to what Epstein was doing?
00:42:55.000 That's right.
00:42:56.000 So I forgive me if I'm going to be a little pessimistic.
00:42:59.000 I know Trump has done a lot of really great things, and I still think he's the best president of my lifetime because he's gotten things done.
00:43:07.000 But I don't think the system is going to change.
00:43:10.000 I don't think they're going to go after the corruption.
00:43:12.000 I think it's you got two high-profile, powerful, you know, high seats of power in politics.
00:43:20.000 And they're basically saying, I don't feel like the fight.
00:43:23.000 Fauci should be in jail.
00:43:25.000 Even Newsweek published he lied to Congress and lied under oath.
00:43:28.000 Rand Paul has reiterated numerous times and referred him to the DOJ.
00:43:33.000 It is the simplest case.
00:43:35.000 It's the simplest case.
00:43:36.000 It is in public.
00:43:36.000 He did this.
00:43:38.000 And he lied about gain of function research.
00:43:40.000 He said they weren't doing it.
00:43:41.000 They were doing it.
00:43:42.000 Great.
00:43:42.000 Pam Bondi could have a warrant for his arrest overnight, and they won't do it.
00:43:47.000 Why?
00:43:47.000 Well, the reason is because that, just like Aaron McIntyre, our friend says, is they just don't have the courage, right?
00:43:54.000 Like if you don't exercise power when you have it, which is what the Republicans should do, but if you don't exercise power when you have it, your enemies absolutely will.
00:44:04.000 And that's what the Democrats have shown over and over and over.
00:44:07.000 They arrested Trump.
00:44:08.000 They arrested all of his lawyers, or they, you know, prosecuting all of his lawyers, et cetera.
00:44:12.000 All these people, they've got the mug shots and stuff.
00:44:16.000 They will do it if they get back into power.
00:44:18.000 So the Republicans absolutely have to do this stuff or else the American people are going to totally lose faith that they have the ability to actually make changes.
00:44:29.000 Correct.
00:44:29.000 And make no mistake, Barack Hussein Obama is a treasonous criminal, but Anthony Fauci is a murderer.
00:44:36.000 Anthony Fauci's death count is well over five to 10 million people because of the gain of function China virus, right?
00:44:43.000 He lied about that.
00:44:45.000 And so the time they spent, Tim, that little intern of Pam Bondi's printing those binders and putting them together and bringing them to the east wing of the White House, they could have written the four-page indictment.
00:44:54.000 That's all you need is four pages.
00:44:56.000 On this date, he said this.
00:44:58.000 That was a lie according to Exhibit A. Therefore, we are charging him with U.S. Code Title 18.
00:45:03.000 Boom.
00:45:04.000 Take him into custody, bring him before the court.
00:45:06.000 Indeed.
00:45:07.000 Let's jump to this next story.
00:45:08.000 This is from the New York Times.
00:45:10.000 Appeals court blocks Trump's attempt to restrict birthright citizenship.
00:45:14.000 The ruling from the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Ninth Circuit brings the White House's theory of citizenship closer to a full Supreme Court review.
00:45:20.000 In the meantime, of course, Trump is being blocked.
00:45:23.000 And you know what I was thinking?
00:45:25.000 We have another story here.
00:45:27.000 J.D. Vance pushes for automation of agricultural industry, no amnesty for illegal immigrant farm workers.
00:45:34.000 I'm going to put on my conspiracy cap for a second.
00:45:37.000 If you knew the history of, say, like the Luddites, how automation took their jobs away, this was largely what they opposed: the automation taking away their work and leaving them destitute.
00:45:49.000 You would plan for AI and automation.
00:45:52.000 What's a clever way to deal with it?
00:45:54.000 Mass migration.
00:45:57.000 Create the problem.
00:45:59.000 The people react to it.
00:46:00.000 And then you offer them the solution.
00:46:02.000 You know what we're going to do?
00:46:03.000 We're going to deport all of those people who took your jobs.
00:46:05.000 And you know what?
00:46:06.000 We're going to replace them with robots.
00:46:09.000 If you just said, we are going to fire our farm workers and replace them with robots, you'd have riots.
00:46:14.000 But if you replace the workers slowly over time with illegal immigrants, piss off all the people about the jobs being taken away, then J.D. Vance says, we're going to get rid of them and replace them with robots.
00:46:14.000 Yes.
00:46:27.000 Now there's no one to protest.
00:46:28.000 Correct.
00:46:29.000 So maybe that was the play.
00:46:30.000 I don't know.
00:46:31.000 Conspiracy theory.
00:46:33.000 Well, it's an interesting one, right?
00:46:34.000 Because they're both bad.
00:46:36.000 But to your point, the way it was sequenced out, right?
00:46:38.000 You have Kilmar picking the strawberries and more appropriately, the 10-year-old who's forced to pick Chelsea Handler's weeds so she can pick up the picture.
00:46:43.000 Kilmar was picking the people.
00:46:44.000 He was picking the people and transferring them in his trunk.
00:46:48.000 Look, automation should not be opposed for automation's sake.
00:46:52.000 The reason, though, we've automated car factories for the past 70, 80 years is that actually in some agricultural spaces, like strawberries, for example, it doesn't make sense to automate.
00:47:01.000 These are delicate fruits that humans need to pick.
00:47:03.000 You don't need migrants to do that.
00:47:04.000 You don't need slaves to do that.
00:47:05.000 You can pay Americans a dignified, living, fair market wage, and they'll gladly do that work, Tim.
00:47:11.000 Yeah, I mean, I've heard that part of the reason why they don't haven't automated strawberries is because the low-pay workers are an option.
00:47:23.000 They're cheaper.
00:47:24.000 Yeah.
00:47:25.000 Cheaper than the robots.
00:47:26.000 Well, not only that, but they haven't made the robots because they have robots that can do all sorts of things.
00:47:32.000 Agrobot, Octinian, and Harvest Crew pick strawberries.
00:47:37.000 But it's cheaper to have slave labor.
00:47:39.000 Well, it's cheaper to have slave labor.
00:47:40.000 There's no question about that.
00:47:41.000 The question is whether it makes sense for some places to make that large upfront capital investment for robotics versus even paying folks $20, $25 an hour.
00:47:52.000 So it's not a clear-cut thing.
00:47:53.000 Sure.
00:47:54.000 Some places have kiosks like McDonald's.
00:47:55.000 Some places actually like In N-Out Burger, you walk up and you order your burger and fries.
00:47:59.000 So how far out do you think like automated, like, you know, humanoid robots like Optimus, how long do you think until those could do the job that like immigrant workers are doing now?
00:48:12.000 So I spent a lot of time thinking about this because I run an investment firm and Tesla is among our largest positions.
00:48:16.000 So we have to think about and model out Optimus.
00:48:18.000 So as we speak right now, Optimus is serving popcorn at the Tesla diner in LA.
00:48:23.000 Yes.
00:48:23.000 Really?
00:48:24.000 Serving popcorn totally autonomously.
00:48:26.000 You go up to it, hands you the thing, puts it in there, hands it over.
00:48:30.000 That's incredible.
00:48:31.000 I don't believe it.
00:48:32.000 They had that party with the Optimus bots and it turned out they were remote control.
00:48:35.000 But they admitted that.
00:48:36.000 What they've said now is this is actually an autonomous Optimus.
00:48:39.000 That was eight months ago.
00:48:40.000 It's now been trained on the model even better.
00:48:42.000 Now, it's not talking to you in a coherent way, but it's just, it's all it's doing is grabbing the popcorn, putting it in hand.
00:48:48.000 They know they have Grok.
00:48:49.000 I mean, they can add Grok to it.
00:48:50.000 They now added Grok to the Tesla.
00:48:52.000 To your question, no, because I have Android, and it used to be the Big Speed digital assistant.
00:48:59.000 I would just press the button and say weather.
00:49:01.000 And then it would just, it would pull up a window showing the weather.
00:49:04.000 Now it's some weird guy going, hi, Tim.
00:49:06.000 The weather for today is going to be, I'm like, shut your mouth.
00:49:09.000 Just give me the weather.
00:49:10.000 Just give me a picture I can look at.
00:49:12.000 Correct.
00:49:13.000 Now it just goes, today's weather is going to be a high of.
00:49:15.000 And I'm like, it takes longer.
00:49:17.000 That's why ChatGPT is really impressive with their building under OpenAI is because they have what's called memory and they have context.
00:49:23.000 So if you tell ChatGPT once, Tim, I only want you to give me the weather or show me an image, it will remember that across all your devices.
00:49:29.000 Well, do you guys know who Gunther Eagleman is on X?
00:49:32.000 Yeah, I do, yeah.
00:49:33.000 Rock says that he killed the guy.
00:49:35.000 Yeah, something like that.
00:49:37.000 Well, Robbie Starbuck was defamed apparently by a chatbot.
00:49:40.000 Yeah, I think, who was he?
00:49:42.000 Was it GPT?
00:49:43.000 It was a Meta.
00:49:43.000 Oh, it was Meta.
00:49:44.000 It's Meta.
00:49:44.000 He said that he stormed the Capitol.
00:49:45.000 Yep, yep, yep.
00:49:46.000 And so I saw this thread.
00:49:48.000 Gunther Eagleman is like, you were wrong.
00:49:49.000 I did not kill anybody.
00:49:50.000 And it was like arguing with him.
00:49:52.000 It was like, I don't know.
00:49:53.000 It was like a police report saying you did.
00:49:55.000 And then he posted a picture of the police report.
00:49:59.000 It was a different guy with a similar name.
00:50:01.000 Interesting.
00:50:02.000 And then Grok was like, I hereby retract all statements.
00:50:04.000 I was wrong.
00:50:05.000 Oh, wow.
00:50:06.000 And I thought, that's really interesting.
00:50:08.000 Like, what, why would it just assume whatever he sent was real?
00:50:12.000 So I opened up the Grok app and then I typed it in.
00:50:15.000 Did Gunther Eagleman kill a guy?
00:50:16.000 And it said, yes, he did.
00:50:19.000 It said, there are conflicting reports.
00:50:21.000 However, a man of the same name did slash someone in the neck, killing him or something like that.
00:50:25.000 I don't know if he killed him.
00:50:26.000 And it was like, though, he has disputed this in the past.
00:50:28.000 And I'm like, whoa, whoa, wait.
00:50:30.000 You can't just say that about somebody.
00:50:32.000 Yeah.
00:50:33.000 Now, he's a public figure to a certain degree.
00:50:35.000 I don't know what the law would be in that regard, but it is wild that two things in this.
00:50:41.000 We know they lie about everybody and we know that they hallucinate and make things up.
00:50:46.000 But it was really rather shocking to me that on X, he posted an image of the police report and it immediately rewrote its own memory and backtracked everything it was saying.
00:50:56.000 And I'm like, so anybody can just make fake stuff and feed it into the AI?
00:51:01.000 Yeah.
00:51:03.000 There was an article written about me claiming that Tim Cast IRL makes $175 million a year because I was mocking Colbert and made a joke.
00:51:12.000 A news article gets written about it and now it's a fact.
00:51:15.000 The AI is going to ingest that news.
00:51:17.000 And so then I went to, I think like GPT and I said, how much does Tim Cast IRL make?
00:51:23.000 And it said, conflicting reports.
00:51:25.000 One report suggests he makes $175 million per year, although that number seems very high for a podcast.
00:51:32.000 Typical ranges are estimated between $5 and $8 million a year or something like that.
00:51:36.000 And I'm like, no joke.
00:51:37.000 Somebody literally saw a gag tweet from me, wrote a story about it.
00:51:41.000 It got ingested by the training models because they're online.
00:51:45.000 And now it is legitimately telling people that it's possible we make $175 million.
00:51:50.000 It's amazing.
00:51:51.000 Imagine what an investment algorithm would do.
00:51:54.000 And if you had a stock and then all of a sudden it knew you made $175 million, it could bid your stock higher on that False information, right?
00:52:01.000 But I think this goes to the point, Tim, that we are not automatically inferior to AI because we would look at that at first blush and say, Tim's smart, he's wealthy, but that doesn't make a lot of sense.
00:52:11.000 Except there were tons of people responding, being like, Whoa, you make 175 million.
00:52:19.000 And then people responding with, Wow, what do you spend that money on?
00:52:21.000 And it's just like, oh my God.
00:52:24.000 Yeah.
00:52:24.000 That's crazy.
00:52:26.000 I mean, it is still hallucinating, but it's still like an infant technology.
00:52:32.000 You know, whether it be AI or whether you're talking about robotics.
00:52:32.000 It is.
00:52:35.000 Robotics actually are not infant, but having robotics that can train themselves on its own neural net where you go to Optimus and Optimus has never picked up books and put them on a bookshelf before, but knows through its training, through the neural networks.
00:52:49.000 Wow, dude.
00:52:49.000 Dude, ChatGPT says Gunther Eagleman stabbed a guy.
00:52:55.000 Wow.
00:52:56.000 Even though he wasn't.
00:52:58.000 Yo, this is crazy.
00:52:59.000 Gunther, you got to sue.
00:53:01.000 This is a crazy story.
00:53:01.000 I got to pull this up.
00:53:02.000 Gunther.
00:53:03.000 I'm sorry to hear that.
00:53:07.000 But yeah, so you're saying that Optimus actually is able to train itself?
00:53:11.000 Because I know that some of the ways that they have been working with the AI is basically they would put Optimus in a room with toys and it would literally play with toys.
00:53:23.000 So they've gotten to the point where it can actually interpret, like put these on the shelf and it'll do that stuff.
00:53:30.000 Exactly.
00:53:30.000 And so the idea is use those model experiments to build out the physics engine of Optimus to train itself.
00:53:36.000 But for example, if we had an Optimus here, it would never have been necessarily trained on putting books and taking the covers off and putting them on a bookshelf.
00:53:44.000 Never have been explicitly trained on that, but could still render that task.
00:53:49.000 That's the power of it.
00:53:50.000 Yeah.
00:53:50.000 Is you never have to train it to take out your trash or to pick something off the lawn, but it intuitively knows how to do that.
00:53:57.000 That's impressive because I was under the impression that essentially they were training it to do things.
00:54:03.000 And then once you trained one optimist how to do things, then all of the optimists would know how to do this one task.
00:54:10.000 But it's actually able to learn in the real world.
00:54:14.000 So train it to do, say, 5% of all things.
00:54:17.000 So for example, I have never had to do the task of taking a book that is hardcover and putting the covers back on it.
00:54:25.000 I've never done that in my life on a large enough task, but I know how to do it, right?
00:54:30.000 And so the point is, how do you get Optimus' aggregate intelligence to be able to do tasks that it's never done before, but it can intuitively iterate and figure out how to do it on the fly?
00:54:39.000 This is actually smarter than the plug-in in the Matrix, where you plugged in and learned a certain task or whatever.
00:54:46.000 Correct.
00:54:46.000 And I have, you know, I have a Tesla car, and it's the same thing.
00:54:49.000 That Tesla car, I live in rural Florida, about 20 miles south of the Georgia line.
00:54:52.000 That car has never been trained to drive in rural Florida.
00:54:55.000 Never.
00:54:56.000 It's never trained on my block, but it's been trained in San Francisco and other places as well to where it's built out this end-to-end neural net that even if it's never driven on those roads at those intersections on those roundabouts at those U-turns, it intuitively, neurally knows what to do next.
00:55:13.000 That's how you scale it.
00:55:14.000 Now, Waymo, that's the Google technology that they have.
00:55:16.000 It's fixed to a geofence.
00:55:18.000 So that same Waymo that can drive brilliantly in San Fran or LA or Phoenix, you put it here in West Virginia, it could not move 10 feet because it has not been expressly trained.
00:55:28.000 So they give Waymo the map.
00:55:30.000 It knows where it is on the map, but it knows nothing else.
00:55:30.000 Exactly.
00:55:34.000 And so now what you're seeing play out is Waymo and Tesla's RoboTaxi in Austin in a very similarly sized geofence, but Tesla can scale like that.
00:55:44.000 Think of it this way.
00:55:45.000 Austin has 1,500 Uber drivers in the Austin metro area.
00:55:49.000 Tesla produces in its Texas factory 1,500 Model 3s and Model Ys every single day.
00:55:56.000 That means that in one day, Tesla could totally take over and be bigger than Uber in just Austin.
00:56:04.000 And then you have the fact that there are millions of Teslas all over the country that with a software update fill could become this robo-taxi and pick people up.
00:56:11.000 That is a massive deflationary force.
00:56:14.000 I'm also excited about it because it means that rural Americans can actually have a real form of transport to get around.
00:56:20.000 They need to get around.
00:56:20.000 A third of the country lives in rural America, but Uber doesn't exist out there.
00:56:23.000 Public transit doesn't exist out there.
00:56:25.000 And RoboTaxi can help getting people to church, to jobs, increase labor mobility, wages, et cetera.
00:56:31.000 You know, the funny thing is there was a viral post where a guy worked for Lyft.
00:56:35.000 He posted how much money he made.
00:56:37.000 And then he posted his yearly maintenance and repairs.
00:56:37.000 Yeah.
00:56:40.000 He lost money.
00:56:41.000 You cannot make money on Lyft.
00:56:41.000 Yep.
00:56:42.000 Yeah.
00:56:43.000 You literally cannot make money on Lyft.
00:56:44.000 Yeah.
00:56:44.000 Any of them.
00:56:45.000 The driving apps, what they've basically done is trick people into stripping the equity out of their vehicles, thinking that they're getting money, but they're actually losing.
00:56:45.000 Yeah.
00:56:45.000 You cannot.
00:56:54.000 Correct.
00:56:54.000 You'd be better off just selling half your car to somebody and then using that money and then owing them or something.
00:56:59.000 That's right.
00:57:01.000 Do you think that robotic taxis will be profitable or can be profitable?
00:57:06.000 Absolutely.
00:57:07.000 Absolutely.
00:57:07.000 So can you go ahead and can you unbox that?
00:57:10.000 Sure.
00:57:10.000 So the biggest reason why is because they can run 24 hours a day, right?
00:57:15.000 The second reason why is that it's cheaper to power an electric car than it is to power a gas car.
00:57:20.000 It's about 80% cheaper.
00:57:22.000 So a lot of that cost is going to come out.
00:57:24.000 The third is the maintenance.
00:57:25.000 The average internal combustion engine car, ICE car, has over 10,000 moving parts.
00:57:31.000 The average Tesla has 90.
00:57:34.000 So think about the maintenance cost, the energy cost, the scaling cost going down by a factor of 1,100.
00:57:43.000 It's 100 times.
00:57:44.000 So you're saying buy Tesla stock?
00:57:46.000 They're saying buy Tesla stock.
00:57:47.000 I'll go even further.
00:57:48.000 That is financial advice.
00:57:48.000 That's financial advice.
00:57:49.000 I want to be careful there.
00:57:51.000 I believe you should buy Tesla stock, but I'll take it a step further.
00:57:55.000 We are launching at Azoria, my investment firm, Tim.
00:57:58.000 You're familiar with call options, right?
00:57:59.000 Yeah.
00:58:00.000 So we are launching a Tesla fund, the first of its kind, ETF, that buys both Tesla stock and call options on Tesla stock.
00:58:07.000 We think Tesla's going to $1,800 a share.
00:58:09.000 It's $330 right now.
00:58:10.000 It's going to $1,800 by $2030.
00:58:12.000 Can you explain long, short call?
00:58:16.000 What's that ETF called again?
00:58:17.000 People don't understand this thing.
00:58:18.000 It's called TSLV.
00:58:19.000 It's coming out in two weeks.
00:58:20.000 Very simply, to your point on what a call option is, a call option allows you to own more of a stock than you want to put money into.
00:58:28.000 So if a stock like Tesla were to go up 20%, you could buy a call option that would only risk 1 20th of that amount of the Tesla stock, but your call option would go up 30%, 40%, 50%.
00:58:41.000 What is the mechanism of that?
00:58:42.000 It's an option.
00:58:43.000 So it's a listed option where you're essentially going to another person saying, I want to pay you X amount of money to be able to buy Tesla above a certain price.
00:58:52.000 You will sell me that because you're short, because you think Tesla is going to go down.
00:58:54.000 There's a lot of people who think Tesla is going to go down, a lot of short sellers.
00:58:57.000 That allows you to get leverage on the Tesla stock.
00:59:01.000 And so what you've seen, and Kathy Wood, I met with her about this recently.
00:59:05.000 She's the big investor.
00:59:06.000 She's been along Tesla for a decade now.
00:59:08.000 She made so much of her money early on just by buying Tesla call options.
00:59:11.000 Because if you told me right now, you guaranteed to me that Tesla was going to go up 40% in the next 12 months, I could put together a portfolio of options on Tesla call options that would go up 400% if I knew that it was going to go up 40%.
00:59:26.000 When Elon started flirting with buying Twitter, the stock plummeted.
00:59:30.000 And I'm reading the news.
00:59:31.000 And we always talk about this on the show that we read the news the moment it happens.
00:59:35.000 And then the stock is actually behind because most people don't learn as quickly as we do because we're on the forefront.
00:59:35.000 Yeah.
00:59:40.000 So when the Tesla thing happened, I thought to myself, how insane that Tesla stock would go down because people are political about Elon.
00:59:47.000 So I bought a bunch and doubled my money.
00:59:50.000 That was very smart.
00:59:50.000 Nice.
00:59:52.000 And the same thing happened with the Doge stuff very, very early on.
00:59:52.000 Yeah.
00:59:55.000 Stock got down into the low 200s.
00:59:58.000 The thinking was that he was going to somehow hurt his brand.
01:00:01.000 Now, that's the case, Mary, if you believe that the company actually sells EVs as a business, that their job is to sell cars.
01:00:08.000 Their job is to sell their AI, is to license out their AI to build out the Optimus program.
01:00:13.000 No one's going to own a car probably in 20 years.
01:00:16.000 You have the right to, right?
01:00:18.000 But why own a car when you can have a robo-taxi pick you up for $3 and take you across town?
01:00:24.000 Because my Model S is sick.
01:00:25.000 It's a great freaking car.
01:00:27.000 Yeah, the planned feature for RoboCars, there was a viral video about this like a decade ago.
01:00:33.000 Is that nobody owns a car?
01:00:33.000 Yeah.
01:00:36.000 You think to yourself, we're going to go to a restaurant.
01:00:38.000 And then you take your phone and you just hit the ride share button.
01:00:41.000 And then you walk outside and literally within two minutes, the car is there because every car everywhere is automatic.
01:00:47.000 There will never be traffic again because as your car is about to enter the highway, it's communicating with the entire network of cars and they all can adjust, they can accelerate and decelerate at the exact same time and they can space out to make room for you to merge in perfectly.
01:01:00.000 So it's seamless.
01:01:01.000 Yes.
01:01:03.000 The funny thing is that there was a MythBusters episode on traffic where they had a bunch of cars drive in a circle and they created traffic jams and it was unavoidable because at a certain, you can't, you have a reaction time.
01:01:14.000 So when the car in front of you stops, you stop.
01:01:16.000 When they start, it takes a second to start again.
01:01:19.000 If all the cars are synchronized, they can all start at the same time and stop at the same time.
01:01:23.000 Never be trafficked again.
01:01:24.000 Never.
01:01:25.000 Think about how much time that's going to save people, right?
01:01:28.000 This sounds deeply unappealing, though, because it means that people are going to have less self-determination if their ability to get transportation is controlled by a corporation.
01:01:39.000 You mean when you say a naughty word and they ban you from driving?
01:01:42.000 Yeah, or who knows what else?
01:01:44.000 It's not de-banking, it's de-driving.
01:01:45.000 Yep.
01:01:46.000 Yes, yeah.
01:01:47.000 So you're right, Mary.
01:01:48.000 I mean, there's reason to be concerned about it.
01:01:50.000 I think as long as you willingly partake in the system, now you should still be able to have the right to drive, of course.
01:01:57.000 No one should be subjected to this clauschwab, you know, the year is 2030, you own nothing, and you're very happy, right?
01:02:03.000 But if you go out of your way, and like tell my grandmother, she passed in September, she didn't have a means to transport herself for the last 10 years of her life.
01:02:09.000 She would have killed to be able to have a car pick her up and take her out.
01:02:12.000 And I think a lot of people are like that as well, who want to have a better job, who want to earn a better wage, but don't have a means to get across town or even the next county over surge and say, look, I want to be able to do that.
01:02:23.000 And for $2, $3, I can do that in the Tesla Robotaxi Network.
01:02:27.000 Now, there's going to be competition.
01:02:28.000 It won't just be one company.
01:02:29.000 Google will be in it.
01:02:30.000 Tesla will be in it and others.
01:02:31.000 But that's a really exciting future for a lot of people, I think, Phil.
01:02:35.000 Look, I'm not particularly put off by AI or robotics or anything like that.
01:02:41.000 I think that it's extremely exciting, and I think that it's going to be obviously disruptive, but I don't have like a doom and gloom outlook on it.
01:02:50.000 I think that there will be benefits that outweigh, significantly outweigh the cost and the negative factors.
01:02:57.000 Yeah.
01:02:58.000 Let's jump to this next story.
01:02:59.000 We've got this viral video going around.
01:03:01.000 Law enforcement in Florida is warning of extremely dangerous door kick challenge.
01:03:07.000 Check this out.
01:03:10.000 So he's a bunch of people.
01:03:11.000 They walk up to the door.
01:03:13.000 Ring camera.
01:03:14.000 With airsoft guns.
01:03:16.000 Yep.
01:03:17.000 So damn at night.
01:03:23.000 I, uh.
01:03:26.000 Guys, you know, whenever I bring up social discohesion or whatever, people always go, this stuff always happens.
01:03:33.000 It's been happening forever.
01:03:34.000 It has never happened that rogue bands of teenagers took fake guns that sound, I don't want to say real, but to someone who doesn't know what's going on.
01:03:44.000 They look real.
01:03:45.000 Yeah.
01:03:45.000 They look real and they sound like something.
01:03:48.000 And for the average untrained person, it has never existed that this kind of stuff was happening and so frequently and so commonly.
01:03:54.000 Yeah, people will say, oh, well, you know, everyone knows Ding Dong Ditch and et cetera.
01:03:58.000 And I mean, even I have played that when I was a teenager, when I was a kid.
01:04:02.000 But we weren't going with masks on and we weren't going with toy guns trying to scare people.
01:04:10.000 And we weren't doing it in Florida, right?
01:04:14.000 The worst, my state, the worst state to do it in.
01:04:16.000 The location does matter.
01:04:18.000 Like if you're doing that in Massachusetts, you will get one reaction from people.
01:04:22.000 If you're doing that in Florida or in West Virginia or in any other red, any other of many red states, you will get a totally different reaction.
01:04:30.000 And the results for the homeowner will not be as catastrophic because even if they did, God forbid, they actually shot a kid.
01:04:40.000 If the defense is, look, these kids were banging on my door and I saw them outside with a gun, even though they didn't know, even though it was airsoft, nobody would get convicted for that.
01:04:50.000 It's likely that they would not be found guilty of homicide.
01:04:54.000 Or they would consider it justifiable.
01:04:57.000 So don't do this.
01:04:58.000 This is dumb.
01:04:58.000 Don't do it.
01:04:59.000 It's like the YouTube pranks, Phil, where they pull out a little fake revolver.
01:05:01.000 Yeah.
01:05:02.000 except it looks real.
01:05:03.000 How would you know?
01:05:04.000 And they try to rob somebody on the New York subway.
01:05:07.000 Yeah, there's been videos of this done, right?
01:05:07.000 Are they doing that?
01:05:10.000 And one guy shot.
01:05:11.000 What was that one prank in New York?
01:05:13.000 He shot and he was acquitted, right?
01:05:16.000 Because in that moment, there's no expectation that you can differentiate between an airsoft gun.
01:05:22.000 It's not a toy gun, right?
01:05:23.000 A Nerf gun is a toy gun.
01:05:24.000 It's yellow and it's purple.
01:05:26.000 It looks like a real gun.
01:05:27.000 And so it's going to end in tragedy.
01:05:29.000 Sadly, probably one of those kids was going to have to get shot for this whole thing to end.
01:05:33.000 I hate to say it.
01:05:35.000 But you don't even need a gun.
01:05:36.000 There was the story out of the mall just down here.
01:05:40.000 The Dullest Town Center.
01:05:40.000 Which one was it?
01:05:42.000 Where some YouTube prankster was getting in the face of some guy holding up a phone.
01:05:47.000 So the dude drew his gun and shot him in the stomach.
01:05:49.000 And when that kid ended up in the hospital, he came to his senses and told everyone he's going to keep chasing his YouTube dreams.
01:05:49.000 Yes.
01:05:58.000 He doesn't care.
01:05:59.000 Good lord.
01:06:00.000 And YouTube should have banned him.
01:06:01.000 It should have banned him.
01:06:02.000 But remember, if you questioned the 2020 election on YouTube, you were literally banned.
01:06:06.000 Well, for a while, it was that way.
01:06:08.000 That jury got acquitted.
01:06:09.000 That was several years ago.
01:06:10.000 Yeah.
01:06:11.000 I mean, it's a poor delivery driver, dude.
01:06:15.000 Yeah.
01:06:15.000 I mean, look, Canner Cook.
01:06:18.000 That dude should be banned from all social media.
01:06:20.000 As a very pro-Second Amendment guy that carries a gun and stuff, I cannot emphasize more strongly, do not do this stuff.
01:06:31.000 Do not.
01:06:32.000 It is only going to end with bad things for everyone involved.
01:06:38.000 Because even if you're the person that, God forbid, shoots a kid, your life is going to be hell for two years.
01:06:46.000 And it's going to cost you $250,000 to half a million dollars to defend yourself.
01:06:52.000 You're going to have to.
01:06:53.000 It looks like this dude did quit YouTube.
01:06:55.000 I hope so.
01:06:56.000 Yeah.
01:06:57.000 Well, that's a positive update.
01:06:59.000 I mean, no one who would do something like this would hear someone say, don't do it and not do it.
01:07:05.000 That's the problem.
01:07:06.000 They don't think.
01:07:08.000 That's 100% right.
01:07:09.000 I know.
01:07:09.000 They just act.
01:07:10.000 They're just.
01:07:11.000 This is the social decay is all of these people who are desperate for attention.
01:07:17.000 They want to be seen and they don't know how to be seen.
01:07:20.000 And it's driven by these short algorithms, these TikTok, Instagram, YouTube algorithms.
01:07:25.000 So they're just trying to figure out how to be crazier and crazier and crazier, like the people who go to Walmart and dump milk on their heads.
01:07:31.000 These kids weren't even filming and posting any of this.
01:07:34.000 This was just the sheer thrill of making someone think that they were about to get shot.
01:07:40.000 This is behavioral sync.
01:07:41.000 You know, idle hands, the devil's playground.
01:07:44.000 When you're worried about winter coming and you starving to death, you don't do this.
01:07:47.000 No, well, if you have a father in the home, you don't do this either.
01:07:50.000 Let's be honest.
01:07:51.000 Let's be honest.
01:07:52.000 If you have a two-parent household, if I would have pulled something like that.
01:07:54.000 I don't know.
01:07:54.000 I think that Tanner Cook guy might have two parents.
01:07:57.000 Like, bad people do bad things sometimes.
01:07:59.000 Well, that's true.
01:08:00.000 I think we want to easily say two parents is an important thing.
01:08:04.000 But I think socially, regardless, we're behavioral sync.
01:08:04.000 It is.
01:08:09.000 We are at the point where we don't struggle anymore.
01:08:12.000 And so people are sitting around thinking, what gets me attention?
01:08:15.000 Well, you know what got you attention back in the day?
01:08:17.000 Doing something heroic?
01:08:19.000 You guys know the story of the Iditarod?
01:08:22.000 That people were dying, needed medicine.
01:08:23.000 And so they were like, we have no choice.
01:08:24.000 And they're like, you'll never make it.
01:08:25.000 You're crazy.
01:08:26.000 Those dogs can't make it that far.
01:08:28.000 And then they did.
01:08:29.000 They did it because it was about saving lives.
01:08:31.000 Now it's like, oh, we'll just get a helicopter.
01:08:34.000 Okay.
01:08:35.000 Yeah, we got tons of them.
01:08:36.000 We got too many actually.
01:08:37.000 You know, we'll leave one there.
01:08:38.000 And so people are sitting around being like, where's my great journey, adventure?
01:08:43.000 How do I prove myself?
01:08:45.000 Well, the only way to do it on social media nowadays, not the only, but the fastest and easiest way is to be a nut job.
01:08:50.000 Yeah.
01:08:51.000 There was a whole separate case of this in a different area in Florida with two teens caught on camera kicking in a neighbor's front door and one hiding in an attic and the other admitting, we were just being stupid.
01:09:06.000 Clearly.
01:09:06.000 Wow.
01:09:08.000 They're all visibly black, by the way.
01:09:10.000 And that should be noted because their levels of violent crime are absolutely out of control and we need serious law enforcement response to it.
01:09:22.000 It's outrageous.
01:09:23.000 Well, I mean, look, the idea that this is entertainment, you know, that this is something fun, I understand your point.
01:09:33.000 Like the people that are likely to do this are not going to be the people that are going to be listening to me or take my advice.
01:09:39.000 But, you know, this is so, I just can't emphasize enough.
01:09:46.000 Like, this is so dangerous and such a stupid idea.
01:09:49.000 Just don't do this.
01:09:51.000 Don't do it.
01:09:52.000 And there's not really a whole lot.
01:09:54.000 And they should be tried as adults and – Oh, absolutely.
01:09:56.000 Probably locked up for life because – What is the charge?
01:09:59.000 This is the type of behavior you see early on in someone who ends up being a serial murderer.
01:10:03.000 Do we charge them with like aggravated – When you bring a fake gun to someone's house, well, the fake gun is something entirely different.
01:10:10.000 Attempted murder?
01:10:11.000 Well, it's certainly attempted burglar trying to break into someone's house.
01:10:14.000 Yeah.
01:10:15.000 Right.
01:10:16.000 I wonder what the charge is for make.
01:10:20.000 So in Illinois, it's interesting because assault is, I forgot how they phrase it, but it's making someone believe they face an imminent threat.
01:10:27.000 Sure.
01:10:28.000 That means in Illinois, in New York, assault is actually touching someone and causing damage.
01:10:34.000 If there's no damage or visible injury, they don't charge.
01:10:38.000 In Illinois, assault would be flinching at you, walking up to you.
01:10:42.000 Yep.
01:10:42.000 And battery is when they make contact in a way that injures or embarrasses.
01:10:47.000 So I'm curious if Florida has a charge about what would you charge someone with if they point a gun at your head, right?
01:10:54.000 Would you get attempted murder?
01:10:56.000 Because you're making someone fear they're about to die, and that's what these guys are doing.
01:10:59.000 Yeah, I'm not sure what the actual statute would be.
01:11:01.000 And I imagine that it would probably be different depending on which state you're in.
01:11:05.000 Well, let's put it this way.
01:11:05.000 Sure.
01:11:07.000 Right now, you should expand the reckless display of a firearm statue to include anything that a reasonable person would perceive to be a legitimate firearm, right?
01:11:16.000 So, search, if you come up and you pull out an airsoft gun and try to rob someone and carjack them, we're going to charge that as if it's armed carjacking.
01:11:24.000 Absolutely.
01:11:24.000 End of story.
01:11:25.000 In Florida, it would be aggravated assault.
01:11:27.000 It would be.
01:11:28.000 If the victim reasonably believes The weapon is real, it will be felony to the third degree, up to five years in prison.
01:11:34.000 Right.
01:11:34.000 And in the meantime, unless the AI is just hallucinating and making it all up, but it probably is.
01:11:39.000 Yeah, I mean, but look, I mean, Tim, you've mentioned this yourself.
01:11:43.000 Like, kids that might do this kind of stuff, like, oftentimes they're looking to go to jail or they'll go to jail and they'll only get, you know, they'll look at, okay, well, I'll get my street cred and I'll come out and I'll have people that will look at me as if I'm a tough guy or whatever.
01:12:01.000 So I mean, that's why I'm saying that.
01:12:02.000 It's like the 15-year-old and the 13-year-old were arrested facing felony burglary charges.
01:12:08.000 That's in Florida, too.
01:12:09.000 13 is crazy.
01:12:10.000 That's why I've been saying you make them wear diapers and baby bonnets and march down a main thoroughfare while saying I'm a big baby boo-boo.
01:12:19.000 Oh, deputies said the girl's mother was furious after learning what her daughter had done.
01:12:25.000 And you didn't know where your 13-year-old girl was in the middle of the night.
01:12:29.000 It was 10.30.
01:12:30.000 One of them was a 15-year-old boy and a 13-year-old girl in DeBarry.
01:12:30.000 It was 10.24.
01:12:35.000 One of those commercials?
01:12:36.000 Parents.
01:12:36.000 10 o'clock.
01:12:37.000 Do you know where your kids are?
01:12:40.000 And there's a personal responsibility aspect to this as well.
01:12:42.000 There's no question.
01:12:43.000 Right?
01:12:44.000 But I mean, just, and, you know, you touched on it, Mary, but there are obviously implications in particular racial subsets.
01:12:53.000 When you don't have two parents in the household, you tend to see more reckless behavior.
01:12:58.000 It's just the truth.
01:12:59.000 I've scrolled through every ring camera video that is available.
01:13:04.000 Literally every kid doing this is black.
01:13:07.000 So that should be talked about.
01:13:08.000 Well, you've got to be honest about it.
01:13:09.000 And that probably has something to do with the fact that 70% of black kids growing up in America right now don't have a dad.
01:13:15.000 And that's not because of marijuana life.
01:13:16.000 I don't think that the dad issue is the reason why across the board we see all sorts of action like this.
01:13:24.000 No, I don't disagree with you on that at all.
01:13:26.000 But what I would say is this, is that if you have a black kid who's got two parents and a black kid with just a mom, who is more likely to pull this crap?
01:13:34.000 The person without two parents.
01:13:35.000 Right, right.
01:13:36.000 But that being said, the trend of psychotic internet pranks is being done by literally everybody.
01:13:41.000 It elevates this sort of black culture.
01:13:42.000 It's unacceptable.
01:13:44.000 I don't disagree with you on all.
01:13:47.000 So here's the first thing I would say.
01:13:49.000 You're looking at all the videos that have come out about it and everyone doing it is black.
01:13:53.000 But I'd like to actually see the reports, the actual hard data on who's doing it.
01:13:57.000 I don't think you're wrong to bring it up.
01:13:59.000 I'd say before we start taking enforcement action or looking into cultural and social issues as to what's going on, is it the videos we have are showing black people doing it?
01:14:07.000 Or is it statistically like we have the data that it is only black people doing it?
01:14:11.000 Well, it's the former, but we also have crime statistics to help us out here with context clues.
01:14:17.000 Don't bring up 1350, Mary.
01:14:21.000 And it's not even 1350 because it's actually mainly the males who are committing violent crime.
01:14:28.000 6%, really.
01:14:29.000 So the question then is, in what neighborhoods are they doing it?
01:14:33.000 Are they doing it in their neighborhoods?
01:14:34.000 Are they going to other neighborhoods?
01:14:35.000 Oh, because they would get shot in the neighborhoods if they did it.
01:14:36.000 I don't know.
01:14:37.000 Do you know these neighborhoods?
01:14:39.000 I don't know.
01:14:39.000 That doesn't look like If we're talking about general crime, the question is, this is a specific kind of weird crime that they don't get money from, and they're not filming.
01:14:51.000 Behavioral sync?
01:14:51.000 What do you call it?
01:14:52.000 They're calling it a TikTok challenge, but I'm not seeing any of these kids holding phones up and supporting it or posting it.
01:14:59.000 I haven't seen any examples of that.
01:15:01.000 It's literally all just ring footage.
01:15:04.000 So it's literally just for the sheer thrill of making someone believe that they're in danger for their life.
01:15:10.000 That's it.
01:15:10.000 Yeah.
01:15:11.000 And who knows what would have happened if the homeowners tried to confront them and how it would have escalated.
01:15:18.000 Well, the homeowner would have argued it de-escalates.
01:15:20.000 It's not even about the homeowners either.
01:15:22.000 It's sooner or later, someone's going to be walking down the street in Florida strapped as they're allowed to.
01:15:27.000 And they're going to see two guys wearing masks with guns come to a house and they're going to scream and draw their guns and say freeze.
01:15:35.000 And those guys are going to start and they're going to get shot.
01:15:38.000 Well, that would solve that problem.
01:15:38.000 Yeah.
01:15:39.000 There's a...
01:15:42.000 I think it would seriously deter that kind of behavior.
01:15:44.000 I don't think so.
01:15:44.000 Yeah.
01:15:45.000 This is suicide.
01:15:47.000 I don't think so because in Chicago, it never has in 50 years.
01:15:50.000 I just put a link in the Slack about an 18-year-old Virginia high school senior died in a shooting early Saturday that may have resulted from a TikTok prank.
01:15:58.000 Wow.
01:15:59.000 This is back in May.
01:16:00.000 We covered this back in May.
01:16:01.000 Oh, was it the May?
01:16:02.000 Yeah, okay, May 6th.
01:16:03.000 What was the context there?
01:16:03.000 All right.
01:16:04.000 It was a Ding-Dong Ditch.
01:16:05.000 Oh.
01:16:06.000 Yeah, we covered this back when it happened.
01:16:08.000 It was they were doing a Ding-Dong Ditch, and I think they arrested the guy.
01:16:13.000 Yeah, they arrested the guy.
01:16:14.000 And we called it out like, what?
01:16:16.000 That makes any sense.
01:16:17.000 Yep.
01:16:18.000 There's crazier stuff.
01:16:19.000 I wonder what happened to this guy.
01:16:19.000 I think there's a lot of stuff that's more overtly suicidal, like the Subway Surfer challenge.
01:16:24.000 Like they're trying to recreate the mobile game and run on top of trains in the subway system in New York.
01:16:31.000 And I think at least one kid died.
01:16:33.000 Yeah.
01:16:34.000 You see, now, look, I got to tell you that the kid who was doing the 3 a.m. ding-dong ditch was white, and the homeowner who shot him was black.
01:16:44.000 And this was in May.
01:16:45.000 This was back in May.
01:16:46.000 And this homeowner should not have been charged.
01:16:48.000 It is sickening that he was charged.
01:16:50.000 He was drawn?
01:16:51.000 I don't know yet.
01:16:54.000 This is from May.
01:16:56.000 Let me see if I can find the guy's name, actually.
01:16:58.000 Like, you're at home.
01:16:59.000 It's 3 in the morning.
01:17:00.000 Oh, I'm shooting.
01:17:02.000 And strange people are doing something on your property.
01:17:05.000 Now, I don't know the full context, but apparently it wasn't a ding-dong ditch.
01:17:05.000 You know what?
01:17:11.000 It was some other kind of prank.
01:17:12.000 So it's been a while since we covered this story, so I need to pull it back up.
01:17:18.000 They're saying they were recording ding-dong ditch pranks for TikTok videos, but there was something about it where it wasn't.
01:17:23.000 It was like you try to open their door.
01:17:24.000 You check to see if doors are open or something like that.
01:17:26.000 It was something like that.
01:17:27.000 Let me see if I can get it.
01:17:29.000 God, it's fine to play pranks and stuff like that, but trying to enter people's houses or whatever.
01:17:38.000 It was an attempted home burglary.
01:17:39.000 Yeah.
01:17:41.000 I guess the question too, Tim, is this a convenient excuse when you're trying to charge a bunch of juveniles?
01:17:46.000 No, it was just a joke when they were actually trying to break in to steal property.
01:17:50.000 It was just a TikTok joke.
01:17:52.000 Is that just the excuse afterwards to not charge us?
01:17:52.000 Right?
01:17:55.000 And in the context that Tim's talking about, even if they weren't trying to steal anything, The fact that they were trying to open the door, that's attempted burglary.
01:17:55.000 Yeah.
01:18:04.000 Yes, if you try, if you go through any barrier, Tim's mentioned it before because of the barriers that are set up around here.
01:18:12.000 If you go through any barrier, that's burglary.
01:18:15.000 You know, you've committed the act of burglary just by entering in a place where you're not supposed to be.
01:18:20.000 So the idea of trying to pull on a door, you're trying, it's attempting to burglarize out.
01:18:24.000 Correct.
01:18:25.000 Or what if the next challenge is, try to steal your kid in the mall?
01:18:28.000 Our goal is to go grab a table.
01:18:30.000 Are we doing that too?
01:18:32.000 Yeah, the kids who survived said they were just doing a ding-dong ditch, but the homeowner called 911 to report a burglary.
01:18:38.000 So I don't believe a 3 a.m. ding-dong ditch.
01:18:41.000 I wouldn't be surprised if they were.
01:18:42.000 It was actually a burglary.
01:18:43.000 So one of the pranks is you try and open doors because people leave their doors unlocked.
01:18:48.000 There was one video out of the UK where they were entering homes that were open.
01:18:52.000 You see that video?
01:18:54.000 Yeah.
01:18:54.000 You just walk up to a house and then go inside and the people would be like, whoa, geez, what are you doing?
01:18:59.000 Bro, if you're in West Virginia and you walk in the house, no one's going to ask you what you're doing.
01:19:02.000 They're going to scream at the top of their lungs and point a rifle at your face.
01:19:05.000 Let me make it a race thing again because the guy who was doing that was a streamer named, I think, Mizzy, and he ended up going on Pierce Morgan's show to interview about what happened and him literally jumping people, going in their houses.
01:19:20.000 And he tells Pierce, like, you're racist.
01:19:24.000 You're criticizing me for committing crimes.
01:19:26.000 That means you're racist and you just hate black people.
01:19:30.000 I have a former police officer friend of mine just texts me and he's like, they're training for home invasion, which is completely realistic to think, you know, attempting to see if they can get inside and where the line is drawn for that kind of behavior, you know?
01:19:46.000 Yeah.
01:19:46.000 It's like car picking, you know.
01:19:48.000 Well, and just think about it.
01:19:48.000 Yep.
01:19:49.000 They were at the sliding glass door of his house.
01:19:51.000 It was not a prank.
01:19:52.000 It's not a prank.
01:19:53.000 That was their excuse.
01:19:54.000 We got caught, so we're going to cry TikTok, right?
01:19:56.000 This is why people are hiring Uber for personal security.
01:20:01.000 Not Uber, but basically the USA.
01:20:02.000 Oh, yeah, LA or Texas or whatever.
01:20:04.000 We're going to get to the point where you're going to have to have the purge-style home security systems that you mean like South Africa.
01:20:11.000 Yes, like South Africa, yeah.
01:20:13.000 Right, but like leveled up even more.
01:20:16.000 Like metal barrier over every entrance to your home overnight.
01:20:21.000 Yep.
01:20:22.000 And even in interior.
01:20:26.000 There's no updates on this guy.
01:20:28.000 That's, dude.
01:20:31.000 That's messed up.
01:20:32.000 It's just a terrible idea, you know, and it can only end in tragedy.
01:20:40.000 To your point, even if the person to put the defendant through that, lose his job, lose his family.
01:20:47.000 They issued a statement.
01:20:48.000 They said, our family is united in support of Tyler Chase Butler, who acted out of genuine fear for his safety and for the safety of his mother.
01:20:56.000 Tyler found himself in an unimaginable situation, forced to protect his home and his loved ones in the early hours of the morning.
01:21:01.000 We are aware of the profound loss experienced by the loved ones of the young man who lost his life.
01:21:06.000 Our thoughts are with them during this difficult time.
01:21:08.000 We urge the public immediately avoid speculation and allow the facts to be fully examined.
01:21:11.000 Tyler is a young man who responded to an immediate threat, and we stand by him as the truth of the situation comes to light.
01:21:17.000 This is a challenging time for our family, and we respectfully ask for privacy as we continue to support one another.
01:21:21.000 I want to know what the details were, because apparently some details came out.
01:21:25.000 People online are saying that they were at a sliding glass door.
01:21:27.000 They weren't just doing a ding-dong ditch.
01:21:28.000 They were three people.
01:21:29.000 You don't go to the house, ring the doorbell, and then stand there and wait for a guy to come to the door.
01:21:34.000 They were doing something.
01:21:35.000 I've heard some rumors that the prank that people were doing is they go to houses and try and open the doors and then see if they can get inside.
01:21:41.000 You can get shot for that.
01:21:41.000 Wait a minute.
01:21:42.000 Yeah, he'll die.
01:21:43.000 West Virginia, man, is no joke.
01:21:45.000 By the way, it doesn't matter if you're black, white, Asian, if you do that in West Virginia, you're going to get shot.
01:21:49.000 West Virginia is one of the few states that allows you to defend open property.
01:21:53.000 So in Maryland, if you are, let's say in Maryland, you have 10 acres of farmland or something, and someone crosses onto your property and screams that they intend to kill you, you are legally required to flee to your home.
01:22:07.000 Once in your home, if they try entering your home, you're allowed to defend yourself with lethal force.
01:22:11.000 In New Jersey, you're never allowed to do it.
01:22:14.000 In West Virginia.
01:22:15.000 You have to run into Pennsylvania.
01:22:18.000 In West Virginia, if they enter your open property and are threatening you, you're allowed to defend yourself with lethal force.
01:22:23.000 What that turns into is a lot of cases in West Virginia is the police are called.
01:22:28.000 There's a dead guy, a living guy, and the living guy says, it's my property.
01:22:31.000 And he threatened to kill me.
01:22:32.000 End of story.
01:22:33.000 End of story.
01:22:34.000 There's no one, there's no witnesses.
01:22:35.000 It doesn't matter.
01:22:36.000 So the issue then becomes you can't just kill anybody if they're on your property because a lot of property is open.
01:22:42.000 For instance, like we have a big open field and nobody's got, it's 50 plus acres.
01:22:46.000 So there's no fencing around the other properties.
01:22:49.000 And sometimes people will cross through ours.
01:22:49.000 Some do.
01:22:51.000 You can't just shoot them.
01:22:52.000 Unfortunately for the people who do this without realizing it, if you die, there's no crime.
01:22:58.000 The police are going to come to the homeowner and they're going to say, they threaten me.
01:23:01.000 And the cop's going to say, okay, what are they going to do?
01:23:04.000 It's your property.
01:23:05.000 That person isn't supposed to be there and you were threatened.
01:23:08.000 End of story.
01:23:09.000 Don't trespass.
01:23:11.000 Be very careful.
01:23:12.000 I've had people come out to West Virginia and I can't remember where we were, but there's a big open field that was clearly private property, but like you could walk through it.
01:23:21.000 And I can't remember, it was like two years ago.
01:23:23.000 They were like, let's just cross through here.
01:23:25.000 I think we were somewhere near Berkeley Springs.
01:23:27.000 I don't know.
01:23:28.000 And I was like, nope.
01:23:31.000 That's not a public thoroughfare.
01:23:32.000 And they're like, yeah, but it's like, we're just going to cross it.
01:23:34.000 No, we're going to drive around because you walk through that field and someone might be like, what are you doing on my property?
01:23:43.000 And then you say, I'm just trying to cry.
01:23:44.000 No, you go back the way you came.
01:23:46.000 Yeah.
01:23:47.000 It's the only option when someone has a rifle pointed at you.
01:23:52.000 Let's jump to this story, my friends.
01:23:54.000 We got one more for you.
01:23:55.000 Fox News, one year after Biden's unprecedented exit from 2024 race, Democrat poll numbers hit rock bottom.
01:24:04.000 That's it, man.
01:24:06.000 I don't know how the Democrats come back from this.
01:24:08.000 You know, we were talking about South Park earlier, and it seems like they're going to try and be anti-woke edgy and mocking Trump, and they want to belittle Trump.
01:24:16.000 They're trying to win back the podcast comedian circuit.
01:24:19.000 They're trying to win back the Joe Rogan types.
01:24:20.000 That's why they went for South Park.
01:24:22.000 But I don't think Democrats can recover this unless they abandon gender ideology and critical race theory, which I don't think they can.
01:24:31.000 The more progressives have been trying to double down on that kind of stuff.
01:24:35.000 I heard Ayanna Presley talking about DEI and how DEI was extremely important.
01:24:40.000 This is just today.
01:24:41.000 I heard a clip of her talking about DEI and how it's super important, and that without DEI, we won't make any quote-unquote progress and stuff.
01:24:50.000 The progressives are going to double down on it.
01:24:52.000 The smart Democrats like Fetterman, like Josh Shapiro, they will actually, they seem to be moving away from this stuff.
01:25:01.000 Buddha Judge, dare I say, not as big as a fan, but he can own a reader room a lot better than these Democrats can.
01:25:05.000 Yeah, and I don't think, personally, I don't think the Buddha Judge has much of a chance, but it is a good point to point at him about this stuff.
01:25:13.000 The smarter Democrats are moving away from this stuff because it's not popular with the American people overall.
01:25:20.000 Again, this is something that's a small group of people are very passionate about it.
01:25:26.000 But the rest of America is like, man, I don't even care.
01:25:29.000 I'm worried about, and I've said this a bunch of times, I'm worried about kitchen table issues.
01:25:34.000 Is the economy good?
01:25:35.000 Can I pay my bills?
01:25:37.000 Can I buy a new home?
01:25:37.000 Can I get a mortgage?
01:25:39.000 After all the inflation that we've had, wages still have not caught up.
01:25:43.000 And, you know, people don't under, people seem to not understand that wages are a lagger and inflation is a leader.
01:25:49.000 That's part of why there was such a massive wealth transfer.
01:25:53.000 That's part of why there's such income inequality that people talk about.
01:25:57.000 People that have money can get loans when there's 0% interest rates or 1% interest rates.
01:26:04.000 Those people have businesses.
01:26:06.000 The people that don't have money, the people that have, you know, that took the Biden bucks or the money that Donald Trump handed out, they take that money and they spend that money.
01:26:18.000 Who are they buying things from?
01:26:19.000 The people that have money.
01:26:21.000 This is not super complex, but it takes a while for wages to catch up.
01:26:26.000 Exactly.
01:26:27.000 For the same reason, like the same reason why a lot of regulation, a huge corporation can easily absorb the costs of new regulation and they use regulation and granting new regulation in the government in order to squeeze and destroy small businesses and medium-sized businesses because they can't absorb just massive cost increases or irregulatory increases, et cetera.
01:26:49.000 They can't stomach that.
01:26:49.000 They can't handle it.
01:26:50.000 They'll just go put it.
01:26:52.000 It happens all the time, happened in 2022.
01:26:54.000 If you didn't see it happening in your own towns, you're lying to yourself.
01:26:57.000 Like it happened all the time, happened in LA.
01:26:59.000 I saw it happen personally.
01:27:00.000 But yeah, you're exactly right on.
01:27:02.000 And, Serge, one of those regulations that's popular even amongst Republicans is what's called occupational licensing.
01:27:08.000 I got my hair cut a couple weekends ago.
01:27:10.000 Crazy.
01:27:10.000 It's insane.
01:27:11.000 1,800 hours to become a barber, that benefits the super cuts and the haircutteries of the world.
01:27:17.000 Regulation is always the friend of big corporations.
01:27:20.000 It is always the enemy of small businesses and entrepreneurs.
01:27:24.000 Louisiana, Tim, it wasn't just until two years ago that in Louisiana, you needed a license to pay a fee and to pass a test to be a florist, to assemble the daisies and the tulips.
01:27:37.000 But again, that was the big floral lobby.
01:27:39.000 But I mean, think about how hard it is.
01:27:41.000 If you were just your run-of-the-mill old, you know, I don't know, biologist or scientist trying to take viruses from one animal and then contaminate other animals to force the virus to become more potent.
01:27:54.000 You can't even do that in the United States.
01:27:55.000 You can't even do that.
01:27:56.000 You have to go to Wuhan, China to do something like that.
01:27:58.000 Can you believe this?
01:27:59.000 And then when you do it, blame it on the bat soup because that's definitely not racist.
01:28:03.000 Right.
01:28:03.000 Right.
01:28:04.000 Yes.
01:28:05.000 But it's racist to say it came from a lab.
01:28:07.000 And to come full circle, arrest Fauci.
01:28:10.000 What are we waiting for?
01:28:10.000 Arrest him.
01:28:11.000 Well, we were talking about regulation, and I made a joke, but now we're on Fauci.
01:28:15.000 But anyway, to regulation, I think a lot of people don't realize how insane regulation really is.
01:28:21.000 Yeah.
01:28:22.000 And how some of it's good.
01:28:25.000 I'd say most of it's bad.
01:28:26.000 Most of it's bad.
01:28:28.000 It is psychotic how insane regulations are.
01:28:33.000 Which would you say are good?
01:28:35.000 Like you can't put lead in people's water.
01:28:40.000 They do that anyway.
01:28:41.000 Some places do.
01:28:43.000 There's pretty simple ones that we think some are good.
01:28:46.000 We think some are bad.
01:28:47.000 Like, you know, liberals don't like the regulation of marijuana.
01:28:50.000 So if you're a business and, you know, you're going to be serving food to people and they say the content of rat feces and the food must be below a certain number, I'm actually okay with that.
01:29:00.000 But when they say in order to get certified to clear your restaurant of rat feces, you first have to go, we're only open once a month.
01:29:07.000 Correct.
01:29:08.000 You can come down with your paperwork.
01:29:10.000 Unfortunately, if you make any mistake, it'll come back next month.
01:29:14.000 And then once you come in, we'll submit your files to the rat feces assessment bureau, who will then give them a few months to go through this.
01:29:21.000 They'll get back to you.
01:29:22.000 And then once you have that paperwork, you can then go to City Hall and file for your tax permit to get your certification because it has to go through the tax office to get the final certification.
01:29:30.000 And then once you have that, you can apply for the display permitting, which is required to open your business, which takes another six months.
01:29:36.000 Thank you and have a nice day.
01:29:38.000 Closed.
01:29:39.000 Worst part is that person also is earning a salary and they're also getting all these benefits and they're going to have, what's the word for like a stipend at the end of the year or the end of their service?
01:29:47.000 I forget what that's called.
01:29:49.000 Basically, the issue we had with the building for our coffee shop was it's a historic building.
01:29:55.000 So any changes has to go to the historic society, which meets once a month.
01:29:58.000 Interesting.
01:29:59.000 And we were like, okay, well, that shouldn't matter because we don't have much to change, right?
01:30:02.000 Well, unfortunately, the fire escape door that you have connects to the, it connects into a back portion of the building with stairs, which now means that it's a single floor as far as occupancy goes.
01:30:13.000 Oh.
01:30:14.000 And that means you need access for the handicap to get to the second and third floors.
01:30:20.000 And so we said, okay, we'll just close that door off and do a new door.
01:30:24.000 Ah, okay.
01:30:25.000 Well, then you have to go to the historic department to alter the building to that degree.
01:30:28.000 So we said, well, then we will because we don't want anyone going to the second floor.
01:30:32.000 And they said, okay.
01:30:33.000 And then unfortunately, the Stork Society said, first month, we're going to have to take a look at this and figure it out.
01:30:38.000 The next month, you know, the dude who was supposed to be here to work with us on this isn't here next month.
01:30:44.000 And it went on and on and on until we said, okay, can we just use the elevator in the building to qualify for the handicap requirements?
01:30:51.000 And they said, well, actually, the elevator is a historic elevator.
01:30:54.000 And it's not up to code because it's from 1908.
01:30:57.000 And if you want to get it up to code, you got to go to the historical society.
01:31:01.000 And so we said, okay.
01:31:03.000 And then after basically like two years of all of this, we just sold the building.
01:31:08.000 Yeah.
01:31:09.000 Bye.
01:31:09.000 Think about the employees you could have employed there, the wages they could have earned, the money they would have spent in their local community.
01:31:15.000 And the locals told us it was all the same thing.
01:31:16.000 The people who are there and who have businesses like worked full-time for years to get final approval.
01:31:22.000 Martinsburg is now saying we're going to relax a lot of this probably because I've been complaining about it and people are mad at me.
01:31:27.000 But we did, we are still partnering on the shop.
01:31:31.000 So we don't own it anymore, but there will be a shop.
01:31:33.000 That's awesome.
01:31:34.000 That's exciting.
01:31:34.000 What are you going to call it?
01:31:35.000 Casper Coffee.
01:31:36.000 Oh, cool.
01:31:37.000 Yeah, it's our coffee company.
01:31:38.000 Awesome.
01:31:38.000 We have a bunch on the way.
01:31:39.000 I can't speak too much, but this stuff takes forever.
01:31:43.000 Like if you want to start a franchise company, it's like a year of federal regulation before you're allowed to do anything.
01:31:48.000 It's psychotic.
01:31:49.000 And I don't think it's an accident.
01:31:52.000 I think the U.S. government intentionally uses regulation to stifle business on purpose.
01:31:56.000 Agreed.
01:31:56.000 I think that the government's attitude is we don't want too much growth.
01:32:01.000 And I'd imagine the argument is if we grow too rapidly, we can create a period of instability where if we can't sustain that growth, we can retract too rapidly.
01:32:11.000 So let's sludge everything up so we can make sure it only grows a little bit over time.
01:32:18.000 I think they do it to, I think they won't tell you this.
01:32:21.000 They'll constantly talk about how they want to hit good numbers, but they want to slog up the system intentionally.
01:32:27.000 Yeah.
01:32:27.000 Well, they definitely, they want growth, but they don't want high volatility growth.
01:32:31.000 They don't want GDP of 10%, then GDP of negative 9, GDP of 20%.
01:32:35.000 So they want to control it.
01:32:36.000 Correct.
01:32:36.000 Federal Reserve.
01:32:37.000 They want to control the flow of money.
01:32:38.000 They want to control population.
01:32:42.000 So, you know what happens to any species when they reach the maximum point of resource distribution?
01:32:49.000 They become sickly and starve.
01:32:51.000 So if you take a look at the deer population in our area, last year, the deer were all starving.
01:32:56.000 Because people weren't hunting them, you ended up with this massive deer population.
01:33:01.000 They ate all the food.
01:33:03.000 And then although they had this massive population, they were all sickly and starving.
01:33:08.000 So the idea is if humanity grows to the point where we strain all of our resources, we reach parity with resource, we all become angry, sickly, and starving because there's enough to get to that population.
01:33:20.000 So powers that be in the US government are like, no, no, no, we should always make sure growth can't exceed a certain amount of excess.
01:33:27.000 So they will restrict you intentionally.
01:33:29.000 And I believe they use regulations for that on purpose.
01:33:32.000 They definitely do it because businesses want them to do it too, because they want to get rid of their competition.
01:33:36.000 You know, I was going to say when I got my haircut in college, I got my haircut from a roommate who lived down the hall, and he charged eight bucks.
01:33:45.000 The barber shop charged $60 that was down the street.
01:33:49.000 And so, of course, you want to create a regulation that says that that guy's going to charge eight bucks, has to go through 1,800 hours of barber training and all sorts of nonsense.
01:33:57.000 I want to do a quick review for The Fast and the Furious.
01:34:01.000 For The Fantastic Four.
01:34:03.000 I don't know why I said that.
01:34:08.000 Okay.
01:34:08.000 And I'm a huge fan.
01:34:09.000 I'm not going to get this one, do you?
01:34:10.000 Oh, this was one of the worst ones I've ever seen.
01:34:13.000 It is one of the worst movies I've ever seen.
01:34:16.000 Pedro Pascal was the worst casting choice imaginable.
01:34:20.000 It is the most miserable acting I've ever seen.
01:34:23.000 I like Pedro Pascal in a lot of stuff.
01:34:24.000 I didn't really know.
01:34:26.000 And they overuse him.
01:34:27.000 So I'm not going to spoil the film for you.
01:34:30.000 It's mostly spoiled already because there's no story.
01:34:33.000 The movie is a two-hour long trailer.
01:34:34.000 And what I mean by that is when you watch the trailer and it jumps from plot to plot, like because they're not trying to tell you the full story, that's two hours of this.
01:34:43.000 So without spoiling, I'll give you an example.
01:34:46.000 The movie starts with a montage explaining who they are.
01:34:50.000 The next scene is a minute of them being like, we're having a baby.
01:34:54.000 I'm not spoiling it.
01:34:55.000 That's actually in the trailer.
01:34:57.000 Then it's a montage of superhero nonsense, unrelated plot points.
01:35:02.000 Then you get a scene where in the trailer, like I'll put it this way, everything of the movie that you've seen in the, like the movie is the trailer.
01:35:09.000 What you saw in the trailer is the movie.
01:35:11.000 There's nothing else.
01:35:11.000 Thank you.
01:35:11.000 Have a nice day.
01:35:13.000 Shala Ball arrives.
01:35:15.000 That's the name of the Silver Surfer, which is again in the trailer.
01:35:18.000 She says, I herald his beginning.
01:35:20.000 I herald your end.
01:35:22.000 I herald Galactus.
01:35:24.000 And then they go, oh man, montage.
01:35:27.000 Basically, every time something happens, you get a voiceover showing a bunch of stuff happening in a time shift.
01:35:34.000 There's probably 20 or 30 voiceover montages stringing the movie together because there's no actual movie.
01:35:40.000 Reed Richards never uses his power one time at the end.
01:35:44.000 The Thing uses his powers one time at the end.
01:35:47.000 Human Torch uses his powers quite a bit.
01:35:49.000 Sue Storm does quite a bit, but usually for just like I'm Being a Woman moments.
01:35:54.000 So like, I don't want to spoil plot points, but basically mostly when you see her use her powers, it's because of some like she's embarrassed about something or angry and she turns invisible, like not actually fighting.
01:36:08.000 And then a good example is basically it's like Galactus is coming.
01:36:13.000 What do we do?
01:36:13.000 And Reed's like, I don't know.
01:36:15.000 And then all of a sudden it goes, the Fantastic Four did a bunch of stuff and things happened.
01:36:19.000 And then it shows him getting on a spaceship.
01:36:21.000 And they're like, let's go faster than light.
01:36:24.000 Then they go faster than light.
01:36:25.000 And it's like, okay.
01:36:27.000 Then they're at Galactus.
01:36:28.000 Again, this is all in the trailers.
01:36:30.000 Then Galactus is like, I'm evil.
01:36:32.000 And they go, run.
01:36:33.000 And like, I'm like, why?
01:36:35.000 What's happening?
01:36:37.000 Why is any of this going on?
01:36:38.000 And then they go back to Earth and they're like, we are going to die.
01:36:42.000 And it's like, I don't know.
01:36:42.000 And everyone's like, why?
01:36:44.000 And I was like, okay.
01:36:45.000 And then they're like, how do we stop Galactus?
01:36:48.000 And then he's like, I have a plan.
01:36:49.000 And then they have a plan that makes no sense.
01:36:51.000 It has nothing to do with the movie.
01:36:53.000 And then it time skips and it goes, all of the nations of the world had a plan for Galactus.
01:36:58.000 And then the Silver Surfer fights and doesn't make sense.
01:37:02.000 Then Johnny is like, I don't want to get too spoilery, but he like is talking to the Silver Surfer for some reason, which has no impact on the plot.
01:37:10.000 And then at the end, they never defeat Galactus and the movie ends.
01:37:16.000 And you don't really know what happened or why.
01:37:18.000 There's a movie coming up, you think?
01:37:19.000 They set it up.
01:37:20.000 Yes.
01:37:20.000 And then there's an after credit scene in which you see a green cloak and that's it.
01:37:24.000 So the green cloak part, Reed Richards is supposed to be the new leader of the new Avengers.
01:37:30.000 and the green cloak is Doctor Doom, who's played by Robert Daniel Jr.
01:37:35.000 If this is a flop, if this movie doesn't go, I don't see how they're going to have Pedro Pascal.
01:37:41.000 It's getting great reviews.
01:37:42.000 Is it getting great reviews?
01:37:44.000 This is part of MCU?
01:37:45.000 Yes.
01:37:46.000 But they're in a standalone universe, Universe 828, which is Jack Kirby's birthday, I guess.
01:37:52.000 But it's the end of the movie, though.
01:37:54.000 They're in the studio, though?
01:37:55.000 Yes.
01:37:56.000 And they put together that crap?
01:37:57.000 This is, like, I'd love to spoil it to a certain degree, but the easy way I could explain it is that, you know, like in a lot of movies, like, Fast and the Furious is a good example.
01:38:08.000 Dom is washing his car, and then, like, The Rock pulls up and he goes, Dom, a super spy has stolen a submarine.
01:38:14.000 And he's like, we're on it.
01:38:16.000 And you're like, oh, okay, a thing happened.
01:38:18.000 And then he gets in the car.
01:38:19.000 Then he goes to the airport.
01:38:20.000 Then he gets on a plane.
01:38:21.000 Then he meets the CIA and Mr. Nobody.
01:38:24.000 And Mr. Nobody's like, we're going to use you, Dom, to stop this bad guy.
01:38:27.000 And you're like following a chain of events.
01:38:28.000 This movie was a thing happens and then a voiceover montage explains something else happens.
01:38:34.000 And then a thing happens.
01:38:35.000 Like, why did they go to outer space?
01:38:37.000 None of it makes sense.
01:38:39.000 There's no story whatsoever.
01:38:41.000 Okay, I'm going to partially spoil this because it's the key plot element from the comics, which is already well known and is already on all the forums.
01:38:50.000 Galactus wants their baby.
01:38:52.000 They don't explain why.
01:38:53.000 It makes literally no sense.
01:38:55.000 And it's just like Galactus is like, I will have your baby.
01:38:58.000 There's only one point in the film that I really liked.
01:39:01.000 And it was just one line from Vanessa Kirby when Galactus is trying to take the baby and Silver Surfer is there.
01:39:09.000 She goes, Johnny, kill her.
01:39:12.000 And I was like, wow, that was awesome.
01:39:13.000 That's the only thing I liked in the whole movie when Sue Storm orders Johnny Storm to kill the Silver Surfer.
01:39:19.000 Because I'm like, you don't get that in the superhero movies from Marvel.
01:39:23.000 Like the superhero saying, like the way she said, kill her.
01:39:26.000 And then he actually shoots her in the face.
01:39:28.000 I was like, all right, you know, okay.
01:39:30.000 It doesn't do anything to her, but, you know.
01:39:31.000 Is that the only redeeming scene you think?
01:39:33.000 because she's like, the only thing redeeming about the film is that one point where she's like, I have a baby and I will kill you if you touch it.
01:39:39.000 The rest of the film is just It's so bad.
01:39:43.000 It's so insanely bad.
01:39:44.000 Anything woke?
01:39:45.000 No.
01:39:46.000 No, it's just really bad.
01:39:49.000 I don't know.
01:39:50.000 So we're starting to remember that we used to have like movies that were just bad.
01:39:55.000 Yeah, as opposed to bad.
01:39:56.000 This is Daredevil Ben Affleckbed.
01:39:59.000 Okay.
01:39:59.000 Oh, wow.
01:40:00.000 A little bit worse, actually.
01:40:02.000 I wanted to walk out.
01:40:03.000 No joke.
01:40:04.000 You did not leave.
01:40:05.000 You watched me.
01:40:05.000 I didn't catch your thoughts on Superman.
01:40:08.000 I liked it.
01:40:08.000 You liked Superman?
01:40:09.000 Yeah, Superman, I give like a B, I think.
01:40:12.000 It was a generic Superman story.
01:40:14.000 And if you like Superman and Lex stuff, it was very basic.
01:40:17.000 Wasn't woke, wasn't political, wasn't about immigration.
01:40:20.000 It was literally Lex being Lex and being like, Superman!
01:40:23.000 I mean, James Gunn said it was an immigrant story, so I know.
01:40:27.000 But that was they baited him into it.
01:40:29.000 I know, but it's like, shouldn't you be smarter than that by now?
01:40:32.000 Yeah.
01:40:33.000 Born yesterday.
01:40:34.000 This movie.
01:40:35.000 Okay, let me just stress this again.
01:40:37.000 It's not a superhero movie at all.
01:40:39.000 There's no superhero stuff in it.
01:40:42.000 The only superhero stuff is the opening montage where they're like, it opens with a fake TV show documentary about the Fantastic Four to prep the audience for who they are.
01:40:53.000 And then the whole movie is like, there's a weird plot element where, dude, this is the creepiest thing.
01:40:59.000 The thing like is walking down the street for some reason and then meets a school teacher briefly and then leaves and then is in love with her for the rest of the movie.
01:41:06.000 Makes no sense.
01:41:07.000 Was Pedro Pascal believably heterosexual?
01:41:11.000 No.
01:41:12.000 It was, he was awful.
01:41:13.000 It was really bad.
01:41:14.000 And again, I was a fruit.
01:41:17.000 Well, I don't know about that, but he's not Reed Richards, and it was poorly, poorly done.
01:41:23.000 Like, it was like watching...
01:41:27.000 Oh, I can't even...
01:41:31.000 Like when he's fighting Elektra, at least something is happening.
01:41:35.000 He talked like this the whole time.
01:41:39.000 I was like, what is he doing?
01:41:41.000 He's also in Eddington, which is at the moment.
01:41:44.000 He's everywhere.
01:41:45.000 He doesn't, they don't use their powers ever.
01:41:47.000 I'm like, when will Mr. Fantastic actually be Fantastic?
01:41:51.000 Never.
01:41:52.000 Dr. Doom is not in it.
01:41:54.000 The end credit scene makes literally no sense because Sue Storm does like a lightsaber thing with her powers.
01:42:00.000 I was like, why is she doing it?
01:42:02.000 What is this?
01:42:02.000 What?
01:42:03.000 Yeah.
01:42:03.000 Like Sue's powers, she makes force fields.
01:42:06.000 And then at the end, when they're doing the end credit scene, she's like walking into the living room and then she goes with her hand.
01:42:12.000 And then you see a green cloak and it just ends.
01:42:14.000 And like, we get it, you're stupid.
01:42:16.000 You don't see Robert Downey Jr.'s face because you can't pay for that.
01:42:19.000 They could have just used a scene from Doomsday they've already shot with Robert Downey Jr.
01:42:23.000 They're in the middle of shooting it.
01:42:25.000 It's supposed to come out in December next year and that's after a delay.
01:42:29.000 It was supposed to come out next spring and they're currently in the process of writing it while filming it.
01:42:35.000 And they don't have it.
01:42:36.000 They're not done writing it and they're filming it.
01:42:37.000 It's bad.
01:42:38.000 And the second after credit scene is a waste of your time.
01:42:40.000 Don't even bother watching it.
01:42:42.000 It's not.
01:42:43.000 I can't believe people even.
01:42:44.000 Like, that's just terrifying that like you can brainwash people into sitting there past the credits twice.
01:42:50.000 You know what's remarkable to me is you can just look at what they did with Iron Man, Hulk, Captain America Thor, and understand why it worked and how the MCU was working.
01:43:00.000 You make a standalone movie about the character.
01:43:03.000 It is an origin film.
01:43:05.000 And then at the end, the after credit scene promos the next movie.
01:43:09.000 They then realized with Guardians of the Galaxy, they were like, hey, James Gunn recently did an interview where he said, I was like, can we just say other things in the movies are Infinity Stones?
01:43:19.000 And they were like, oh, okay.
01:43:21.000 And so we have these after credit scenes.
01:43:23.000 We can now combine them and do the Infinity Gauntlet thing.
01:43:26.000 And they had all these standalone movies and they brought them together.
01:43:31.000 Now every single movie is just like the end credit scene is fan service.
01:43:35.000 That doesn't mean anything for any other movie.
01:43:38.000 They're not previewing anything.
01:43:39.000 But I just got to say, I wanted to walk out.
01:43:46.000 I would argue that it's worse than Last Jedi.
01:43:50.000 Really?
01:43:51.000 Yeah.
01:43:54.000 Was it was it Last Jedi?
01:43:55.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:43:55.000 Last Jedi was where Holdo did the Holdo maneuver, and it was like, you know, What was it, Admiral Gender Studies?
01:44:01.000 Yep.
01:44:02.000 Yep.
01:44:02.000 Like the thing about that.
01:44:04.000 The whole second act was completely and totally unnecessary.
01:44:07.000 They went to the casino planet and they were just crapping on capitalism and rich people.
01:44:14.000 I gave this a three out of 10.
01:44:16.000 I think that's probably being generous.
01:44:18.000 The reason, so the thing about Last Jedi is that Snoke dies, but there's a story that you're following.
01:44:26.000 This movie has no story.
01:44:28.000 It's nothing.
01:44:29.000 Did you find the Palpatine thing believable, though, at the very end?
01:44:32.000 No, that was Rise of Skywalker.
01:44:33.000 It was Rise of Skywalker.
01:44:34.000 Which is also really bad.
01:44:36.000 It was worse than both of them.
01:44:37.000 Okay.
01:44:38.000 Yeah.
01:44:39.000 I can't believe how bad it was.
01:44:41.000 I know Killing Snoke was a good scene, though.
01:44:41.000 Just reading it.
01:44:43.000 It made no sense.
01:44:45.000 And it kind of ruined it.
01:44:46.000 But to be fair, the sequel movies were garbage anyway that made no sense.
01:44:49.000 So whatever.
01:44:50.000 But I don't recommend this film.
01:44:52.000 I recommend you wait till it comes out if you truly want to see it.
01:44:55.000 It's not a Fantastic Four movie.
01:44:57.000 Johnny doesn't even burn his clothes.
01:45:00.000 Yeah, one of the things about Johnny Storm is that he's on fire.
01:45:03.000 Nope, not in this movie.
01:45:05.000 Like he picks people up.
01:45:06.000 They're not burned.
01:45:07.000 What?
01:45:08.000 Yeah.
01:45:08.000 While he's on fire, this is ridiculous.
01:45:11.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:45:12.000 No, he's on fire and he's like carrying kids around and saving people.
01:45:16.000 But there's no real superhero stuff.
01:45:18.000 Yeah, it's so bad.
01:45:21.000 It's remarkably bad.
01:45:23.000 They did Galactus Dirty.
01:45:24.000 They did Galactus real dirty.
01:45:26.000 man he's Galactics is Galactus in the movie is is is like I Oh, wow.
01:45:34.000 Room temperature.
01:45:35.000 Yeah.
01:45:37.000 Did you watch Thunderbolts?
01:45:38.000 Yes.
01:45:39.000 Why do you keep going back to the MCU like a battered housewife?
01:45:44.000 Like, why do you keep expecting it to be good?
01:45:46.000 It's we also saw Superman, and it's because depending on the films, we go see them.
01:45:52.000 The ones we didn't see was Final Reckoning, which I wanted to see.
01:45:54.000 I'll see that when it comes down on video.
01:45:56.000 But I go see big movies that are culturally relevant and expected to be significant.
01:46:01.000 With Doomsday coming out, this is supposed to...
01:46:08.000 Not in the movie at all.
01:46:10.000 Nothing.
01:46:11.000 And everyone's going, but the ship in that movie has three, you know, three, what you call it, nacelles.
01:46:21.000 And in the Fantastic Four trailer, it's got four.
01:46:23.000 So what is this ship?
01:46:25.000 And then people are showing like the chalkboard in Fantastic Four, where you can see diagrams of wormholes.
01:46:30.000 And they're like, whoa, Reed Richards develops interdimensional travel, and this is what's going to lead to – no.
01:46:38.000 The movie was miserable.
01:46:40.000 I thought what was going to happen is Galactus is going to destroy the planet.
01:46:45.000 And again, this is in the trailers.
01:46:47.000 So in the trailers, Galactus wants their child and he refuses to give them up.
01:46:53.000 What I thought was going to happen is Dr. Doom was going to be in the film, Robert Henny Jr., and he was going to say, you have to give up your child.
01:47:01.000 Don't destroy our earth.
01:47:02.000 And I thought that we was going to end with Galactus destroying the planet and Dr. Doom chasing after him being like, you let our entire planet die for yourselves and then tried escaping to another earth where you could live out your lives.
01:47:14.000 I thought that would be his motivations.
01:47:15.000 Nope.
01:47:16.000 Nope.
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01:47:34.000 Shades Wilder says, do we think anything is going to come of the DOJ strike force investigation of Obama?
01:47:40.000 Or is it going to be a case of, as Mary would say, nothing ever happens, which is to say that nothing ever changes?
01:47:44.000 Yes, Mary's correct.
01:47:46.000 I'm glad everyone's coming around.
01:47:49.000 Feels good.
01:47:51.000 I don't know if I actually would give that 100% because Trump got arrested and nobody believed that could happen.
01:47:57.000 Nobody believed that.
01:47:58.000 So there's a possibility, especially if the argument is Trump is in the Epstein files and he's becoming desperate, then wouldn't the liberal argument be that Trump will do anything to prevent the release, including a mass distraction of, say, arresting Obama?
01:48:11.000 Maybe.
01:48:13.000 That's what I was thinking, actually.
01:48:16.000 I don't have a lot of faith that Obama will get arrested, but I do think that it's more likely that someone like Clapper or Brennan or Comey might see some kind of ramifications, but I don't know what, and I don't think that it's going to be jail time.
01:48:31.000 I believed it was just a rhetorical distraction.
01:48:36.000 I don't see Obama getting arrested in our future.
01:48:39.000 Matt Taibbi seems to believe that there's a lot of there there.
01:48:42.000 And Matt Taibbi's not particularly partisan.
01:48:46.000 He's not a guy that would be a Trump cheerleader.
01:48:51.000 But yeah, I'm still of the opinion that because there's no specific statute that they can point to that was broken or violated, the Republicans don't have the gumption to do, like Tim was mentioning earlier and actually create something, which, I mean, if you believe that what's good for the goose is good for the gander, they absolutely should.
01:49:21.000 No one's above the law, right?
01:49:22.000 No one's above the law.
01:49:23.000 Every single Democrat said it.
01:49:23.000 Obama said it.
01:49:25.000 If he committed a crime, he should be charged and convicted.
01:49:27.000 It's that simple.
01:49:28.000 Yeah, I'm not just not sure what the crime is.
01:49:30.000 You know, what the statute is.
01:49:30.000 Yeah.
01:49:32.000 The FBI could always call him in and have him just interrogate him for eight hours and he'll lie to a federal agent at some point.
01:49:36.000 There's a statute for that.
01:49:37.000 We'd love to see it.
01:49:38.000 I don't know that it will, but I'd love to see it.
01:49:40.000 Let's grab this.
01:49:41.000 We got Jay Huigi.
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01:49:44.000 I've had five lung collapses in 1.5 years.
01:49:47.000 Surgery is in September, but can't afford it.
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01:49:55.000 Please help.
01:49:56.000 Love the show, y'all.
01:49:57.000 Best of luck.
01:49:57.000 That's H-U-I-G-H-E.
01:50:00.000 Sorry to hear about it.
01:50:01.000 Roughly.
01:50:02.000 All right.
01:50:02.000 Guardian says California Kaiser Insurance is not covering sex changes anymore.
01:50:07.000 But how many kids are going to die?
01:50:09.000 Oh, okay.
01:50:09.000 Zero.
01:50:11.000 Well, I'm not mad anymore.
01:50:13.000 I identify as tax exempt says the new South Park is a fine example of the difference between forced and organic creativity.
01:50:20.000 Yeah.
01:50:20.000 I think I got to call Seamus and be like, can we do a parody of the South Park parody where we actually make fun of Trump in a way that's funny that people will get?
01:50:28.000 Do it with AI.
01:50:29.000 Make music With it, right?
01:50:29.000 It's really easy.
01:50:30.000 Well, Seamus does this every week.
01:50:32.000 Oh, it's true.
01:50:33.000 Yeah, they just make one.
01:50:35.000 All right, Sheamus Wilder says, Matt and Trey aren't stupid.
01:50:37.000 When you're given $1.5 billion to democrat, you'll do it, even if it's the tired humor of a 12-year-old boy, even if it tanks, they get paid.
01:50:45.000 You know, it's easy for me to say that I wouldn't do it because we're successful here.
01:50:50.000 I've got money or whatever.
01:50:51.000 But I think, man, $1.5 billion, I think I'd have to do it.
01:50:56.000 You know what I mean?
01:50:57.000 Because with $1.5 billion, seriously, $10 million can fund a massive newsroom, which would greatly benefit this country in a positive way.
01:51:05.000 Run it into the ground, I'm sure.
01:51:07.000 The show, because I have no idea how to make a South Park comedy.
01:51:12.000 But he had a better sketch with some of that stuff with the files and going out into the basement.
01:51:16.000 Sim's got an incredible imagination.
01:51:17.000 Mecca Epstein.
01:51:18.000 Yeah.
01:51:19.000 Or just Epstein's alive.
01:51:21.000 Yeah.
01:51:22.000 And then they could have made Epstein and Trump friends.
01:51:26.000 And then, you know, like, that's the whole play in the press that they were buddies.
01:51:30.000 And then Trump says no one can find out that I smuggled Epstein out of the jail and I'm keeping him alive.
01:51:35.000 Or something like this.
01:51:36.000 There's tons of things to make fun of.
01:51:36.000 I don't know.
01:51:38.000 Cartman waving the binder would have been cute too.
01:51:40.000 Right.
01:51:41.000 Yep.
01:51:41.000 Having Stan, Colin Cartman, like holding up the binders.
01:51:43.000 I'm going to look for the Epstein files on her desk where she said they were.
01:51:47.000 Uh-huh.
01:51:47.000 And her desk is a mess.
01:51:49.000 Yeah.
01:51:49.000 And a bunch of makeup and lipstick and Fox News scripts, right?
01:51:53.000 Yeah, Fox News.
01:51:54.000 It'd be hilarious.
01:51:56.000 Yeah.
01:51:56.000 Yep.
01:51:57.000 Or her desk is just a, he goes into her office and her desk is literally just a makeup desk.
01:52:01.000 There's no files at all.
01:52:01.000 That's it.
01:52:02.000 Yeah, it's just a giant mirror.
01:52:04.000 Yeah, all she's doing is just pruning herself.
01:52:07.000 They weren't even trying.
01:52:09.000 The funny thing is like even Trump supporters would laugh at that.
01:52:12.000 What if Matt and Trey were like, we like Trump, so we're going to take the money and then just do a really bad job?
01:52:15.000 Yeah.
01:52:17.000 All right.
01:52:19.000 What else do we got here?
01:52:20.000 Crash Bandit says, show me the list, then show me the bank records.
01:52:24.000 Then let us figure it out for ourselves.
01:52:26.000 Is that too much to ask?
01:52:28.000 Indeed.
01:52:29.000 L Smith says, South Park could easily make a bromance makeup breakup saga with Elon and Trump.
01:52:35.000 Town can be mad about milk and eggs and solve it on their own.
01:52:38.000 Easy 30 million, please.
01:52:40.000 I mean, so look, if they're going to keep doing this where they keep making fun of Trump, they did it with Garrison.
01:52:45.000 Now they're doing Trump directly conveniently after being given $300 million a year.
01:52:50.000 There's so much stuff to make fun of that's not tiny penis and full frontal.
01:52:54.000 It's like, maybe the idea was if they show the full frontal, nobody would want to watch it.
01:53:01.000 Well, they also mock him for his weight too.
01:53:02.000 We didn't talk about that either.
01:53:03.000 They made this giant fat Trump guy.
01:53:05.000 I can't play the video on YouTube.
01:53:07.000 Because they have a morbidly obese, 300-pound Donald Trump, fully nude and crawling through the desert, and then he looks down at his dick for 30 seconds.
01:53:07.000 I know.
01:53:14.000 Just listening to you talk about it is funnier than the actual question.
01:53:18.000 Yeah, think about that.
01:53:19.000 Think about that.
01:53:20.000 But the joke here is how pathetic it is.
01:53:22.000 You know what I mean?
01:53:23.000 When you actually watch it, you're like wincing the whole time.
01:53:25.000 Like, well, I don't want to see this.
01:53:27.000 Like, Trump gets naked and then goes, come on, Satan.
01:53:29.000 And Satan's like, it's too small.
01:53:31.000 He goes, hey, hey, I'll sue you.
01:53:32.000 It's like, we get it.
01:53:33.000 He said, I'm Hussein.
01:53:35.000 This is the joke you did in 2003 or whatever.
01:53:39.000 Just they should have CBS should give Seamus $1.5 billion.
01:53:44.000 I agree.
01:53:44.000 Yeah.
01:53:46.000 All right.
01:53:46.000 Identify as Tactics Exempt says, that's not the first ring video from that porch.
01:53:50.000 It was in another one a few months ago, but I don't remember the context.
01:53:53.000 I recognize the architecture in the background.
01:53:57.000 Fox 463 says, I'm in the hospital with my wife and baby boy three.
01:54:01.000 Please welcome Luke Thomas Fox to the world.
01:54:04.000 Right on.
01:54:04.000 Congratulations.
01:54:05.000 The one thing that I liked about only the one scene in Fantastic Four is when...
01:54:13.000 Reed Richards is like, he wants my child, but I won't give it up.
01:54:17.000 That's literally the trailer.
01:54:18.000 So when Sue Storm is like, kill her, it was the only actual believable acting in the whole movie where I was like...
01:54:28.000 That's why.
01:54:29.000 She is?
01:54:29.000 Yeah.
01:54:30.000 Now she is, yeah.
01:54:31.000 Oh, really?
01:54:32.000 And she already knew when she was acting?
01:54:33.000 I believe she was pregnant in first of the scenes.
01:54:37.000 Maybe some of them.
01:54:38.000 It's pretty remarkable how like...
01:54:43.000 The plot is they have to give their son to Galactus, otherwise the earth is destroyed.
01:54:48.000 Someone we know is actually staying at the same hotel as Pedro and Vanessa Kirby at the moment, and there are rumors flying that they've got some sort of thing going on.
01:55:00.000 And I'm like, who's going to tell her?
01:55:04.000 Pedro Pascal is the worst, worst choice for Reed Richards.
01:55:08.000 What were they thinking?
01:55:10.000 And for pretty much everything.
01:55:11.000 I assume they tried to make What's Her Face, Brie Larson, the next Robert Downey Jr., and that was stupid.
01:55:18.000 They're probably thinking we need the lead guy who's going to replace Robert Downey Jr.
01:55:24.000 And the reason they chose Pedro Pascal for Reed Richards is because Pedro Pascal is so big in Hollywood right now, and they thought we're going to get the big name to be the lead who can carry the franchise after Robert Downey Jr.
01:55:35.000 But he's not it.
01:55:36.000 He's not it.
01:55:37.000 Mentioned the question of like why Galactus wants the child.
01:55:41.000 I know why.
01:55:42.000 What is...
01:55:45.000 What's their reason in the movie?
01:55:47.000 Okay, spoiler alert.
01:55:48.000 He says, the only thing he says is, he has the power cosmic and can feed and satiate my eternal hunger.
01:55:59.000 In the movie, it makes no sense.
01:56:01.000 And it's like Galactus is going to destroy the Earth.
01:56:04.000 Then only because they went to Galactus does he find out about Franklin Richards and then tries extracting it from her body.
01:56:11.000 The child has the ability to create universes.
01:56:14.000 That's the comic.
01:56:16.000 Okay.
01:56:16.000 And Galactus wants his universe back.
01:56:18.000 And none of that is explained.
01:56:20.000 No.
01:56:21.000 In the movie.
01:56:21.000 In the movie, he simply says, he basically says, he will inherit my throne and end my insatiable hunger.
01:56:30.000 It's stupid.
01:56:31.000 It was pathetic.
01:56:32.000 It would have actually been good if they filed the comics and he said, my universe was destroyed and now I am this thing.
01:56:40.000 Your son can bring back my universe.
01:56:44.000 They could have done so much clever stuff that it was just miserably bad.
01:56:50.000 It was bad.
01:56:51.000 Anyway, I'd love to spoil more because of how bad the ending was.
01:56:56.000 Like the ending is so bad.
01:56:57.000 It's just ridiculously bad.
01:57:00.000 I wanted to leave so bad, man.
01:57:03.000 All right.
01:57:04.000 One evil chef says: Update for Culture War: The Fat Electrician is coaching angry cops on how to beat arguments about communism and anarchy from Michael Malice.
01:57:12.000 Though, if you open the invitation, Nick, the fat electrician, would probably make it more entertaining.
01:57:17.000 Oh, if he wants to come, sure.
01:57:19.000 Absolutely.
01:57:21.000 Who do we get him in touch with?
01:57:23.000 How should we?
01:57:24.000 Sean, you got him?
01:57:25.000 All right.
01:57:25.000 Absolutely.
01:57:25.000 I'll shoot him.
01:57:27.000 Donny Rock says, Tim, turtles need skateboards.
01:57:30.000 Ask the ninja ones.
01:57:32.000 Little turtles, they put them on a fingerboard and then they slide it across the ground.
01:57:36.000 Yeah.
01:57:38.000 Wicked Freebird says, Tim, please read this in the Hulk Hogan voice.
01:57:41.000 Well, rest in peace, Hulk Hogan.
01:57:43.000 People are saying it always comes in threes, but haven't we had five deaths now?
01:57:47.000 Yeah.
01:57:48.000 Chuck Bangioni, that, right?
01:57:51.000 Yeah.
01:57:52.000 I can't do a Hulk Hogan voice.
01:57:54.000 I got to be honest, though, I did just see him.
01:57:56.000 I think I saw him in December when I was at UFC.
01:57:59.000 He didn't look good.
01:58:01.000 He was having a hard time walking.
01:58:04.000 If he was walking a little bit better, I would have tried to meet him, but I didn't want to bother him because he seemed ill.
01:58:09.000 Yeah, there was a video of him yesterday saying he was really tired.
01:58:11.000 He'd been flying between the coasts and whatever.
01:58:14.000 And then apparently that was one of the last videos you put on the internet.
01:58:16.000 But yeah, rest in peace.
01:58:17.000 His heart stopped.
01:58:18.000 Yep.
01:58:18.000 Trump thinks that your body is like a battery.
01:58:22.000 And if you work out too much, you'll die earlier because you're draining your energy.
01:58:27.000 Donald Trump is wrong.
01:58:29.000 He's wrong.
01:58:30.000 So I knew this dude who was morbidly obese once.
01:58:34.000 And I said something like, you know, a candle that burns twice as bright lasts half as long.
01:58:39.000 And then he was like, whoa, really?
01:58:41.000 And I was like, this is a saying.
01:58:42.000 And he was like, oh, yeah.
01:58:44.000 Like, he was thinking, wow, by being lazy and overweight, you know, I'm saving my, and that's not what I was saying, dude.
01:58:51.000 That's not what I was saying at all.
01:58:53.000 And so people have asked this question, if your heart has only a certain amount of beats till you die, wouldn't exercising with a really high heart rate make you die faster?
01:59:02.000 And the answer is no.
01:59:04.000 Because a fit heart beats less.
01:59:06.000 So when you exercise, you increase your heart rate and do diminish a certain number of beats.
01:59:11.000 But then for the rest of the week, your heart is beating very slow.
01:59:14.000 I don't know if I should be alarmed by this, but like three days ago, my resting heart rate was 38.
01:59:19.000 Nice.
01:59:19.000 Is that good?
01:59:20.000 That's very good.
01:59:21.000 Again, really.
01:59:21.000 Very, very low.
01:59:22.000 Very low.
01:59:23.000 What is it supposed to be?
01:59:24.000 The average person, I think, is 60.
01:59:27.000 The average, but then the ideal is 40.
01:59:30.000 40?
01:59:31.000 Yeah, that means you're fit.
01:59:32.000 And so 40 was normal for most of humanity, for men, because they were always working and being fit.
01:59:39.000 Now it's like getting upwards of 80, which is crazy because people are fat.
01:59:44.000 Right now, AI says the average resting heartbeat for adults is typically between 60 and 100 BPM.
01:59:49.000 Jeez.
01:59:50.000 However, a healthy resting heartbeat for most adults falls between 55 and 85, with the lower end of this range being more favorable.
01:59:55.000 For highly trained athletes, the resting heartbeat can be as low as 40 BPM due to increased cardiovascular efficiency.
02:00:03.000 Being fat is harder.
02:00:04.000 Yesterday I was 46, and it gave me a warning because it's above 45, and it's atypical for me.
02:00:10.000 Wednesday was 41, 44, and then I got pretty worried because it was like 40.
02:00:18.000 Yeah.
02:00:19.000 There was this funny thing online where everybody was posting their watches showing their resting heart rates.
02:00:24.000 Yeah.
02:00:25.000 And they were like, look at mine.
02:00:26.000 Look at mine.
02:00:26.000 I'm fit.
02:00:27.000 I'm in shape.
02:00:28.000 The Michael Malice and Angry Cops is on the second, correct?
02:00:31.000 Okay.
02:00:31.000 Yes.
02:00:32.000 Just want to make sure.
02:00:33.000 And we've got, I think for Gavin McGinnis and Matan Evan, we have Pisco, the liberal lawyer, who'll be joining us.
02:00:43.000 And if you guys know anything about Pisco and his last appearance, you're going to very much enjoy him versus Gavin McGinnis.
02:00:48.000 This is going to be very, very funny.
02:00:49.000 I don't know what Matan's going to do.
02:00:51.000 I imagine it'll be very funny as well.
02:00:53.000 But this Saturday, DC, and then, do you guys know if we have the after party set up or is that set up?
02:01:00.000 Supposed to be like 100 people only, Timcast members.
02:01:04.000 Yeah, it's going to be fun.
02:01:05.000 Let's grab one more D's here.
02:01:08.000 What do we got from DZOSUPC?
02:01:10.000 Ledlaw says South Park bit.
02:01:12.000 Trump refuses to release the Epstein files because there's a picture of Trump bald in them and they try to find it but then figure out that Trump's Toupe is an alien that was controlling Epstein the whole time.
02:01:20.000 I mean, honestly, that's better than what they did.
02:01:23.000 Not particularly funny, but it's way better than what they did.
02:01:26.000 Yeah, it actually would be funny if the Epstein files has, it was like Epstein at a party that Trump was at and Trump's fake hair fell off.
02:01:34.000 And that's the only reason he doesn't want it released and they find out.
02:01:37.000 And then Trump complains that if people find out that his hair isn't real, you know, it'll ruin his chances in the midterms.
02:01:42.000 They could have made fun of him for any one of these things.
02:01:44.000 And said they were like...
02:01:47.000 You can't.
02:01:48.000 You can't even visualize it, really.
02:01:50.000 He's trying to polo, though.
02:01:50.000 I don't think Trump.
02:01:51.000 Polo a lot.
02:01:52.000 Do you think Trump has ever walked a mile?
02:01:55.000 Yeah.
02:01:55.000 Wait, what?
02:01:56.000 Do you think Trump has ever walked a mile?
02:01:58.000 Probably not.
02:01:59.000 In New York.
02:02:00.000 Yes.
02:02:00.000 Sure, golfing.
02:02:03.000 golf carts.
02:02:03.000 I'd be willing to bet that Trump...
02:02:08.000 Yeah, continuous mile.
02:02:09.000 Straight.
02:02:11.000 Because people have debated this before because he's been wealthy his whole life.
02:02:11.000 It's probably harder.
02:02:15.000 And so he probably walks out of a building in New York and gets right into a car.
02:02:18.000 Sure.
02:02:19.000 But of course he's walked a mile.
02:02:21.000 I mean, how is it possible that he didn't?
02:02:22.000 Well, he has.
02:02:22.000 It's just a question of when's the last time he did it.
02:02:24.000 Right.
02:02:25.000 Last 10 years?
02:02:26.000 No.
02:02:28.000 Miles straight.
02:02:30.000 Walking through New York, maybe?
02:02:34.000 That's right.
02:02:35.000 A svelte.
02:02:36.000 Smash that like button.
02:02:36.000 All right, everybody.
02:02:38.000 Share the show with everyone you know.
02:02:39.000 We're going to go to rumble.com slash Timcast IRL for the uncensored call-in portion of the show.
02:02:45.000 You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.
02:02:45.000 You don't want to miss it.
02:02:48.000 James, you want to shine anything out?
02:02:50.000 So we just launched our anti-DEI ETF, SPXM.
02:02:50.000 Yeah.
02:02:54.000 It's available anywhere you buy stocks.
02:02:56.000 As I mentioned earlier, Phil, it's a way to buy the S ⁇ P 500 minus the 38 companies, Nike, Starbucks, Airbnb, and Intel that are doubling down on DEI hiring quotas that are stupid, but also hurt your portfolio.
02:03:07.000 So we're proud to launch SPXM.
02:03:09.000 And we sued the Fed today.
02:03:11.000 Oh, yeah, that's cool.
02:03:12.000 We sued the Federal Reserve in federal court today.
02:03:13.000 I just got on the way over here.
02:03:14.000 I learned that we have a hearing first thing Monday morning.
02:03:18.000 We sued them, Mary, because they are hiding behind this weird exemption that says they don't have to actually conduct their business in public.
02:03:26.000 Every other federal agency, FTC, FCC, CFTC, Is required to conduct official business with public observation.
02:03:34.000 The Fed doesn't do that.
02:03:35.000 They have a meeting next week.
02:03:36.000 Phil, they've been, as President Trump has said, too late.
02:03:39.000 They're refusing to lower rates from 20-year highs.
02:03:41.000 So we sued them in federal court this morning.
02:03:43.000 Azoria v.
02:03:44.000 Powell is the lawsuit, and we're suing them to make clear that next week's meeting, to demand that next week's meeting be happened, happen in public, in public view.
02:03:53.000 I have a question that I'll ask you after when we get to the uncensored part.
02:03:59.000 Sure.
02:03:59.000 All right.
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02:04:35.000 Thanks for hanging out.
02:04:36.000 Thank you.
02:04:37.000 Thank you.
02:05:07.000 Thank you.
02:05:31.000 We are gonna.
02:05:33.000 For all of you All That Remains fans, I'm gonna uh play Is this the right one?
02:05:41.000 No, no, no, wait, which one is it?
02:05:43.000 I can show you the link in a sec if you want.
02:05:46.000 Is it the l the link that I sent you?
02:05:48.000 Place on the link.
02:05:51.000 Yeah.
02:05:52.000 No, is that that's not the right one, is it?
02:05:54.000 Hold on.
02:05:54.000 I'll get it.
02:05:57.000 Oh, I think it's this one.
02:05:59.000 Is it this one?
02:06:02.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:06:05.000 This is not it?
02:06:05.000 Nope.
02:06:06.000 No, that's not the one.
02:06:07.000 This is the last one that I sent you.
02:06:09.000 The latest one.
02:06:10.000 Is that the one I think that had the ad in it?
02:06:11.000 I'm putting this one into the Slack, the right one right now as soon as I find the Slack link.
02:06:17.000 Here we go.
02:06:20.000 That's it's on my X page, but that link that I just put in the IRL Slack has it.
02:06:30.000 There's no ad in this one?
02:06:32.000 Nope.
02:06:33.000 Why is it not making sound?
02:06:37.000 Uh there we go.
02:06:39.000 Let's try that instead.
02:06:40.000 That's what I do live.
02:06:52.000 It's crazy.
02:07:04.000 And you neglected I called you out.
02:07:07.000 Don't please.
02:07:09.000 I said we're stronger than this now.
02:07:13.000 You resurrected mistakes.
02:07:15.000 Years past it seemed.
02:07:18.000 And they exist to still haunt you.
02:07:22.000 And still you feel like the loneliness is better replaced by this.
02:07:27.000 I don't believe it this way.
02:07:31.000 And I can see the fear in your eyes.
02:07:34.000 I've seen it materialize.
02:07:37.000 Growing stronger each day.
02:07:40.000 I can see it as you turn to stone.
02:07:42.000 And still clearly I can hear you say.
02:07:45.000 Don't leave, don't give up on day.
02:07:47.000 Two weeks and you ran away.
02:07:49.000 And I remember the light of night.
02:07:51.000 You couldn't see that it was nothing.
02:07:53.000 I swear I never gave up on you.
02:07:56.000 I wanted nothing but for that just again.
02:08:03.000 And brick by brick you would take it.
02:08:07.000 You feared of phantoms and none exist.
02:08:10.000 But you, you still stopped it to destroy it.
02:08:16.000 And still you feel like the loneliness is better replaced by this.
02:08:22.000 I don't believe it this way.
02:08:25.000 And I can see the fear in...
02:08:27.000 So for those that are wondering, that is one of Phil's hit songs, Two Weeks, that I you normally you can't do this because it's copyrighted and the AI won't let you do it, but I'm a wizard and Phil owns it.
02:08:40.000 So, well, actually, he doesn't, but it's the juice.
02:08:46.000 So what you were listening to was basically Paramour covering two weeks, and it took 30 seconds to make.
02:08:54.000 And I keep hearing from people that AI music is not going to take over.
02:09:00.000 It doesn't have soul.
02:09:01.000 And I'm like, y'all are wrong.
02:09:03.000 Like, this is insane.
02:09:05.000 The craziest thing about this is that my assumption is because there is only one prominent pop punk female singer, and that is Haley Williams, the majority of the training data for AI is based off of her songs.
02:09:22.000 So whenever I do a song and I would say pop punk with female vocals, it almost always sounds like Paramore singing it.
02:09:30.000 I think you should sue them, to be honest.
02:09:33.000 I think that you can believe it is going to take off in some form or fashion and also believe that it has no soul because it has no soul.
02:09:41.000 But people keep telling me, like, Richie McC., I think Richie was arguing.
02:09:45.000 No, I'll know.
02:09:46.000 I won't.
02:09:47.000 Nope, not me.
02:09:48.000 I mean, to be fair, like the vocaloid on that track as you were playing it, it was noticeable.
02:09:56.000 Remember, there was a time when people were like, oh, I can tell when things have auto-tune.
02:10:03.000 Yep.
02:10:03.000 Okay, now you cannot, if you're not.
02:10:05.000 Why does it matter?
02:10:07.000 if the person that's doing the editing doesn't want you to know that it's tuned, you cannot tell it's tuned.
02:10:14.000 So everything is tuned nowadays.
02:10:16.000 Everything.
02:10:18.000 This is the end result of Bob's song.
02:10:22.000 Tell me where you went in another story You'll never, you'll never cry, cry, cry again Tell me where you went.
02:10:37.000 A shadow stretched across your face like they just went to the city.
02:10:56.000 I called you once, the wind replied But you were already lost inside You traveled so
02:11:15.000 far, but never You never smiled, smiled, smiled again Tell me where you went In another story You'll never, you'll never Cry, cry, cry again Tell me where you were.
02:11:38.000 So that's a real song that I wrote, and I recorded 30 seconds of it on my guitar sitting here this morning into my phone, shitty microphone, uploaded to Suno, and then I prompted DreamPop indie female vocals, and it made that.
02:11:54.000 It is insane to me that I can write a melody just like right now.
02:11:59.000 I can come up with a melody, and it will make a full song.
02:12:02.000 So what's going to happen for commercials when you're like, okay, we've got a, ooh, Spotify.
02:12:02.000 It's incredible.
02:12:10.000 They come to a marketing company and they're like, we need a song for our commercial.
02:12:15.000 And so you go, okay, let's try this.
02:12:18.000 This is my music.
02:12:20.000 I take it everywhere I go.
02:12:23.000 Load that into the AI.
02:12:24.000 You don't got to be a good singer.
02:12:25.000 And then say, give me a full song and give me a good hip-hop beat and some solid like indie male vocals.
02:12:32.000 And in 30 seconds, you've got a track for your commercial and you don't got to pay Rotis anymore.
02:12:36.000 Right.
02:12:38.000 So why is there any reason to be excited about that?
02:12:41.000 Who's that excited?
02:12:43.000 I said, this is crazy.
02:12:44.000 I mean, a lot of people.
02:12:44.000 We're fucked.
02:12:45.000 I think AI is going to fucking destroy everything.
02:12:46.000 A lot of people say that this is a good thing.
02:12:50.000 Well, I mean, I can imagine a time where all that remains is say, okay, we want to have a female vocalist on this.
02:12:57.000 And instead of paying someone to do it, you could just have write the lyrics, give AI the melody, and then it'll just generate the vocals.
02:13:05.000 If you did a collaboration with Haley Williams, more people would give a shit about it than that.
02:13:11.000 But you also have to pay Haley Williams.
02:13:15.000 Okay, paying a singer is a good thing to do.
02:13:18.000 Well, yeah, I mean, you're a singer and you get paid for it.
02:13:21.000 If you have the money, do you know how much money it costs to pay Haley Williams to do a song?
02:13:25.000 And also, Haley Williams has to agree to doing it.
02:13:27.000 Honestly, I'd imagine not as much as it did 10 years ago.
02:13:30.000 Probably true.
02:13:30.000 But again, a lot of it is like, look, if you went to like the singer of Spirit Box now and you said, hey, we've got this track.
02:13:36.000 I'd love to have you sing on it.
02:13:39.000 Like a lot of times they're just like, no, because they're too busy.
02:13:44.000 Our second biggest song, What If I Was Nothing, we offered that to, we were like, hey, we said to Lizzie Hale from Hailstorm.
02:13:50.000 We were trying to get her to sing on it, but she was too busy and she wasn't going to, she was like, no, I can't do it.
02:13:55.000 I mean, and it was, it was like I said.
02:13:55.000 Wow.
02:13:55.000 Yeah.
02:13:57.000 Is two weeks your biggest?
02:13:58.000 Two weeks is our biggest.
02:13:59.000 What if I was nothing is our second.
02:14:00.000 And it's a, you know, it's a, it's a huge song.
02:14:02.000 You know, it's, it's a great song, and, but she just didn't have the time.
02:14:06.000 So the, to get a big star to do it is more than just money.
02:14:11.000 It's like they, they're like, well, is this, is this going to help my career?
02:14:15.000 Is it, is it, do I like the song?
02:14:17.000 Am I available?
02:14:18.000 There's a lot of things that go into it.
02:14:19.000 If you can just be like, well, you know, just get the AI to do it, not only do you not have to worry about a human being saying yes or no, you don't have to pay them.
02:14:26.000 And honestly, what is going to happen with this scenario where it sounds like Haley Williams singing two weeks, if Phil wanted to, he knows he can't afford to pay her.
02:14:39.000 So what you do is a shadow campaign.
02:14:41.000 You have your marketing people create a bunch of sock puppets, leak the song, and then go on forums being like, holy shit, dude, this song just leaked.
02:14:49.000 And I think Paramore just did a cover with all that remains.
02:14:51.000 Listen to this.
02:14:52.000 This wasn't supposed to come out.
02:14:53.000 And everyone's going to be like, holy shit, it goes massively viral.
02:14:57.000 And then after the attention generates a ton of press for Paramore and for Phil, he goes, guys, that's not real.
02:15:02.000 I think that's AI.
02:15:04.000 And then you're going to be interviewed.
02:15:06.000 Whoa, what is this crazy?
02:15:08.000 Fan must have made it and claimed it.
02:15:10.000 And it went viral.
02:15:11.000 And, you know, we're glad people like it.
02:15:14.000 I understand what you're saying, but it literally gives artists a lot more options.
02:15:18.000 You know, they can license out their voice.