00:01:06.000Big news this Friday as the Nasdaq 100 is down a lot.
00:01:11.000The Nasdaq 100 has entered a technical correction.
00:01:15.000The Dow Jones is actually a little bit up today, if I understand correctly, but this is a big deal because Nasdaq is where all of your tech stocks are.
00:01:26.000So this is a massive problem for Donald Trump because Tuesday is the election, the midterms, and having the stock market in red territory the weekend before the midterms with gas prices the way they are is a Bad sign for the Republicans.
00:01:41.000Now, this is on the heels of China's stock market having been down.
00:01:45.000It's actually been deeper, it's pushed deeper into bear territory today.
00:01:49.000It's off for 12 straight weeks now, and people think that this is a knock on effect from that.
00:02:52.000Angel Studios has decided that they're going to ban naughty words, they're going to ban the misuse of God's name, they're going to ban sex scenes, which is kind of funny to me considering Angel Studios just recently, six months or so ago, released a reimagining of Animal Farm that kind of took the anti Stalinist.
00:03:21.000He's saying that people shouldn't be running their own AI models at home.
00:03:24.000They shouldn't have them on their own computers, and that RAM is actually better served for society if it's in data centers, which shouldn't be really surprising.
00:03:34.000And we have a guest here today that I really want to pick his brain about this last topic.
00:03:38.000Most people know, most people that follow the show, they know about Data Republican and the Democracy Files.
00:03:44.000Well, we've got someone here today that knows a whole lot about this type of thing.
00:04:23.000I am just a guy on the internet who happens to muse about things around tech, government, the internet, free speech, and whatever else is on the docket today.
00:05:58.000NASDAQ composite tumbled on Friday while the Dow Jones Industrial Average outperformed.
00:06:02.000As traders moved out of key stocks related to artificial intelligence and into more defensive areas of the market, the tech heavy NASDAQ lost 2.86% and closed at 25.437, posting its worst single day performance in June.
00:06:15.000The index was also roughly 8% below its recent high.
00:06:18.000The blue chip Dow was down 572.25 points or 1.09% to end at 51.770.
00:06:31.000Selling pressure intensified in the afternoon trading as investors took money off the table.
00:06:36.000Into month end and ahead of next week's contentious midterms.
00:06:40.000Amazon shares lost more than 1% after the company reported earnings and revenue for the third quarter that fell short of Wall Street's expectations.
00:06:46.000The e commerce and cloud giant also posted negative free cash flow of $42.4 billion and maintained its 2026 capital expenditures forecast for $220 billion.
00:06:57.000Intel, meanwhile, tanked almost 29% after issuing a weak outlook for the current quarter, pointing to a slowdown in PCs.
00:07:04.000Revenue in the company's client computing and physical artificial intelligence group declined 5% from the year.
00:07:54.000But that seems to me like they were trying to stop the bleeding more than actually having something of substance.
00:08:00.000And I think the thing that everybody is most upset with the administration about is the price of gas, which is likely caused by the war in Iran.
00:08:09.000Do you think, is there like moves, global moves to destroy the U.S. economy at pivotal moments, like to Could this be like an intentional catapult to make things look bad?
00:08:30.000And I am not saying this is happening here.
00:08:33.000I would actually, for a number of reasons, be surprised if that was coordinated in a case like this.
00:08:39.000But in general, that is the business community and coordinating the business community is a very key part of.
00:08:48.000Regime change and destabilization efforts, as well as the manipulation of imminent elections.
00:08:56.000This is something that USAID would do all the time with the U.S. Chamber of Commerce and coordinating with lots of international businesses that invest in foreign countries.
00:09:08.000They do foreign direct investment, and then they maintain this relationship with the State Department and USAID.
00:09:13.000And there's a lot of coordinated boycotts, divestments strategically in order to deprive a sitting government of the resources to be able to capitalize its police, its public service.
00:09:28.000What you want to do is you want to sort of.
00:09:29.000Build up kind of a protest movement from the bottom, and you want to create defections within the guard class of the government because the government doesn't have the money to pay them or to dish out bribes.
00:09:40.000This is another thing, just having the money on hand allows you to not just pay people to do their government jobs, but also to do favors for oligarchs who will be your little hub power centers.
00:09:56.000So we saw that in the 2020 election context when they were trying to get rid of Trump back in 2020.
00:10:04.000There is that secret agreement between the AFL CIO and the U.S. Chamber of Commerce around standing down the protests once Trump, once Biden was declared the winner.
00:10:15.000If you remember, that was that Molly Ball article about the right wing people that was actually true.
00:10:21.000And that's the U.S. Chamber of Commerce, which represents effectively all of the major businesses that you'll see on the NASDAQ or the Dow.
00:10:28.000But in this case, I would not be surprised if this is just the ordinary volatility of.
00:10:36.000The market and, um, and or the markets betting or reacting to what they suspect might happen in the midterms.
00:10:44.000We saw, for example, the Brazilian stock market get absolutely crushed decimated when Lula had his magical come from behind, you know, unprecedented victory when he lost the first round and there's compulsory elect, compulsory voting.
00:10:58.000So, where did those 11 million votes come from is a giant mystery.
00:11:02.000But, um, so it could be it could be pricing in at the Hypothetical, you know, Democrat win, or it could be other market events.
00:11:11.000When you say they try and disempower the guard class, what is that?
00:11:16.000So, there are various both kinetic and non kinetic guards that sort of prop up a government against various forms of protests or insurgencies.
00:11:30.000So, there's the first of all, there's the police, there are often kind of paramilitaries, there's the military itself or the army, oftentimes.
00:11:40.000You know, there's two ways to topple a government.
00:11:43.000You can do it through a military coup or you can do it through a bottom up, people powered revolution, a color revolution.
00:11:50.000And oftentimes, it's when you have 100,000 people surrounding the parliament building, it's the police who have to defend that.
00:11:58.000It's the military or the military who has to defend that.
00:12:01.000When you can pry off a critical quotient of the police, I'll give you an example.
00:12:06.000USAID helped produce this video game, which is incredible.
00:12:10.000It's called A Force More Powerful, and they did a sequel called People Powered.
00:12:14.000And in this game, you are a strategic advisor to an opposition political movement trying to either topple the government through a color revolution or through an upcoming election.
00:12:27.000And one of the back channels in this game, you start out with $4 and 29 supporters in your political movement.
00:12:36.000And from there, you need to take over the government.
00:12:38.000And in the game, it gives you the scenario where it's this Eastern European country, undisclosed or whatever.
00:12:48.000It's got two different parts of the country.
00:12:51.000One is kind of a textile zone, the other is a llama farm kind of thing, but they're oligarchs.
00:13:02.000And you not just have to create relationships with the business class and the labor unions, but also with the police chiefs and with the military.
00:13:12.000You throw parties, hoping they'll come there.
00:13:15.000You do pressure campaigns and letters.
00:13:18.000You get into certain business partnerships with them in order to make it more in their interest to be with the opposition than it is to be with the authority.
00:13:27.000And then once the police are on your side in a certain way, Precinct in the major city center, then it's easier for you to throw protests, rallies, boycotts, block the railroads, do sit ins on city intersections.
00:13:44.000And if your protest turns violent, which it frequently does in the game, the police chief won't arrest you.
00:13:50.000So all of that is kind of a what's in the best interest of that guard class?
00:13:56.000Is it to be with the government or is it to be with this rising insurgent opposition movement?
00:14:00.000So you Want to basically make it, and if he defects to you, then you can get away with anything in the districts he controls.
00:14:07.000And so, if the government has less money to offer him because the government's coffers are running dry because of sanctions or because foreign money is pulling out, the economy is tanking, there's just not enough money to go around, then they have less to keep them faithful to the government.
00:14:24.000Now, you mentioned, um, you know, money running out a couple times.
00:14:28.000Is that something that the United States has to generally worry about, considering the fact that?
00:14:33.000The Federal Reserve is kind of the lender of last resort.
00:14:36.000The U.S. can, if the people that run the Fed are friendly with the administration or interested in seeing the administration retain legitimacy, they can print money so that way the federal government can still operate.
00:14:52.000Is that something that we have to, that is likely to be a problem here?
00:14:55.000Or is that something that the current administration or an administration can kind of get around?
00:15:03.000I think the money printing issue is a long term one.
00:15:07.000That I'm not sure is implicated in this case because I sort of think that, like, if you've ever seen like dark crystal or one of these things where it's like there's this force that you can tap into, but every time you tap into it, the darkening spreads a little worse.
00:15:22.000And that's in this case, I think you know, we're talking about kind of like acute financial squeezes, not to the supply of dollars or to the value of the currency, but rather to.
00:15:41.000So you're going to have a lot of working class people who have retirement funds that are getting squeezed in this.
00:15:47.000And they're going to think, okay, well, the opposition movement, in this case, the Democrats, who are the opposition party effectively right now, well, the market may be better under them because it's getting tanked here.
00:16:00.000And then you may have business class folks, oligarchs on the outside.
00:16:04.000And I'm just using that term colloquially, but just influential business community leaders who say, okay, well, market conditions.
00:16:12.000This administration has been bad for me or is steering things.
00:16:22.000And so, I mean, there is a rich get richer kind of momentum effect.
00:16:28.000And obviously, something like this, I think, is consequential because this, where we are right now in this admin, does not feel like where we were in 2024, where I think Trump supporters in 2024.
00:16:43.000Didn't give a damn, frankly, whether the economy went up, down, or south.
00:16:48.000Like the people voted for Trump en masse in 2024 because they shot him in the face.
00:16:53.000They indicted him on 91 BS charges for a thousand years in prison.
00:17:03.000And now the admin feels like I don't know that there's a clear North Star existential kind of stakes in these midterms.
00:17:15.000And so you are running on the kind of nuts and bolts.
00:17:19.000Of everyday life, like gas prices, grocery prices, the economy, especially to folks who are on the turnout question on the Republican side, not necessarily enthralled with the direction of things over the past year and are voting with their wallet because the ideology, they're not sure if they're
00:17:58.000I mean, that was something that, you know, what I always say on this is the, as corrupt as the Biden regime was, they kind of failed cronyism 101, which is you're supposed to, you know, the authoritarian crony sort of capitalist sort of, you know, the knock on is, you know, you're bad.
00:18:23.000You're savage to your enemies and you're good to your friends.
00:18:27.000They were savage to their enemies, but they were not actually good to their friends.
00:18:32.000Like the big tech example is a classic one.
00:18:37.000Zuckerberg deployed hundreds of millions of dollars to get out the vote.
00:18:41.000Zuckerberg, Google, all the big tech companies did everything they could to rig the algorithms, to mass ban the entire Trump movement ahead of the 2020 election, to You know, censor every basically opposition topic from immigration to abortion to public health.
00:19:00.000And how did the Biden administration repay them?
00:19:03.000With Justice Department investigations, with antitrust lawsuits, with not sticking up for them with their State Department when the EU fined them tens of billions of dollars.
00:19:15.000And the Biden admin just kept wanting more and more and more.
00:19:18.000And they just kept basically, they had this golden goose for the party.
00:19:22.000And they just said, give me more gold, give me more gold.
00:19:25.000They kept milking the cow, milking the cow.
00:19:27.000And so at the end of that, Zuck was fed up.
00:19:31.000And he was like, you know what, actually?
00:20:18.000So, what's every other company going to do?
00:20:20.000I mean, and so you started to have a swing towards Trump in that oligarch class, which the blob complained about because that gave Trump a lot of democratic legitimacy at the institutional level.
00:20:34.000To undermine him, but I don't know where things stand right now.
00:20:37.000Well, if you listen to like the All In podcast, like all those guys that are on there, they're still firmly in.
00:20:44.000I think the only guy that's not like very firmly in Trump's corner is probably Jay Cal, the host or whatever, the guy that kind of runs the show.
00:20:52.000But like, you know, Polyapatia, obviously, David Sachs, Freeberg, they're all very much pro Trump because they have seen essentially what the, you know, what the Democrats, you know, attend to do when it comes to technology and stuff.
00:21:10.000The idea that the DSA would be in control of.
00:21:16.000The regulation of the tech sector is something that's beyond the pale for them.
00:22:58.000I mean, there was the Genius Act and the stablecoin stuff.
00:23:02.000The economics to sort of make their businesses better played, I think, a significant role in that.
00:23:09.000And I think that that has been very significant, but I don't know the staying power of it because we don't really have permanence in the MAGA movement.
00:23:22.000At the institutional level, we have kind of good vibes.
00:23:27.000And when the admin is gone, vibes change quickly.
00:23:33.000You know, and to the point you make about the threats and the investigations and stuff, that's kind of what Slotkin was talking about last week that made big news.
00:23:43.000The threat, and she has kind of walked it back and tried to change the narrative, saying that no, I'm not, I wasn't doing that.
00:23:50.000Actually, Donald Trump is coming after me because I want to hold him accountable.
00:23:54.000But if you listen to her initial comments, she was saying, We want to make people think twice about working for or with Donald Trump.
00:24:02.000Should the Democrats take the House, there will be investigations of Musk.
00:24:08.000There will be investigations of a lot of basically anyone that is kind of influential and on the Republican side.
00:24:15.000And I keep making this point the thing that will actually intimidate the average person is when the guy down the street that they know.
00:24:26.000That doesn't have any significant political power.
00:24:29.000All he does is gets on the internet and talks.
00:24:31.000Maybe he owns a business, maybe he doesn't, but he gets on the internet and he has an X page that has 50,000 people.
00:24:52.000So that way the average person starts thinking, well, it makes sense that they go after podcasters.
00:24:57.000It makes sense that they're after Elon Musk.
00:24:59.000It makes sense that they go after Joe Rogan because these are influential people.
00:25:03.000But when they go after the guy that I bring my car to when it needs to get an oil change, well, that means they can go after me too.
00:25:13.000And that's one of the most concerning behaviors that I would predict the Democrats would engage in is trying to intimidate the American people from voicing their opinions.
00:25:25.000And that is well within the realm of what the Democrats would like to do.
00:25:30.000They would like to do what they can to stymie any dissent.
00:25:34.000Because the thing is, and this is why the Republicans are so, at least while they are, and they're also viewed this way, is so weak and feckless because the Democrats.
00:25:43.000Play politics for keeps and they do it full time, they do it all day long.
00:25:48.000The Republicans are like weekend warriors, yeah.
00:25:50.000They get on, they do, they play these little games, they do the Ilhan Omar investigation, and it's always nothing, nothing ever happens, right?
00:25:59.000Um, Democrats will put people in jail.
00:26:02.000How many people who were in or around the Trump admin have seen the inside of a prison cell at this point?
00:26:08.000Um, when are you going to see the right stop playing the moral high ground and start to actually engage?
00:26:15.000In, like, real politics as it exists today, I think a big part of the problem is there are still too many people in DC on the right, and I don't think that they're actually significantly right, but they're kind of the center right.
00:26:29.000There are too many Republicans that think once the Trump administration is gone, this will all calm down and we'll go back to Mitt Romney, John McCain, George W. Bush, that kind of Republican.
00:26:46.000When you see the Democrats behaving the way that they do, They have no incentive to go back to politics as it were.
00:26:54.000They will only double down because the weaker your enemy, the more aggressive you become.
00:27:00.000I can't tell if I'm being psyoped or if corporate governance is actually the wave of the future because when I'm watching the way the Biden administration failed, fumbled their authority, even in like handing back their crony capitalists the money, the favors, I lose faith in this government.
00:27:20.000The Republicans arresting Democrats who are arresting Republicans.
00:29:54.000Like Mark Zuckerberg obviously is trying to buffer against the totalitarian state.
00:29:59.000But they're only doing it for their own interest.
00:30:01.000Like to Mike's point, Zuckerberg only changed his tune when he realized that.
00:30:08.000He got the stick from the Democrats, right?
00:30:10.000Like, they, they, he, he, he, you know, acquiesced to their demands and he was thinking, okay, well, now I'm on their side.
00:30:18.000They will do what they can to protect me.
00:30:21.000And all they did was investigate and they didn't help him out.
00:30:24.000This is the reason why, like, back in the 90s, I think it was IBM had, had boasted that they had no lobbyists.
00:30:30.000And then there was a, a, you know, an antitrust case that, that went before me.
00:30:35.000And I could be getting the, the company wrong, but it was one of the, one of the newer big tech companies.
00:30:39.000They had no lobbyists and the government, Still brought up antitrust violations and they had to go to court and blah, Now they have a million lawyers or whatever, right?
00:31:50.000They're tapping into the vacuum of space time with piezoelectric energy.
00:31:53.000They're trying to have a permanent electrical field that the AI gets a hold of it, it'll never be able to shut it off.
00:31:59.000Could be a good thing, could be a very bad thing.
00:32:02.000That's what SpaceX is trying to do with uh GPUs in space.
00:32:06.000So, I and I really want to know your opinion, Mike, because you've been deeply embedded in studying the deep state and the blob and all this stuff.
00:32:12.000Like, do you and corporate governance with you know the way that the World Economic Forum talks about the corporate governance they want to usher in?
00:32:18.000I was immediately just it was it was disgusting, it made my skin crawl, but now.
00:32:26.000Well, what's really funny is when we got a really good legal precedent from Murphy versus Missouri at the district court and appellate court level on internet censorship, it caused a lot of the general counsels at the agencies to have to tell their rank and file to not pressure the social media companies as hard, to not jawbone them, to avoid.
00:33:05.000But there was a gray area about something called jawboning, which is basically requesting someone do something without a coercive threat, but there is a kind of pressuring without threatening.
00:33:19.000But there's a question I mean, that's sort of an open legal question still at this point.
00:33:25.000It's kind of a gray area in where things currently stand.
00:33:43.000That was like the first one that was actually really functional, usable, viral.
00:33:50.000At that moment, a lot of the AI safety and AI ethics people, like that field, which had been lurking for a decade at that point, had, Went through an explosion as the censorship industrial complex star players started to kind of dual track their careers for being not just about control over content moderation policies of the platforms,
00:34:17.000but control over basically, so not just like the algorithms for amplification of information on social media platforms, but really the algorithms for generation of information in AI.
00:34:32.000So they all went to OpenAI and Anthropic and To these international regulatory bodies.
00:34:38.000And under the banner of AI safety or AI ethics and responsibility, they really anchored into what AI outputs for people.
00:34:50.000It's the same thing like trying to control Wikipedia or something.
00:34:53.000When you search for a term or what happened in a certain historical event or a certain industry or topic or political thing, that the AI would generate what they wanted it to, and then that would be.
00:35:07.000What goes viral on social media, or that's what goes into the history books.
00:35:12.000The issue about having an AI president or an AI judge is who is programming the AI to determine what that AI spits out.
00:35:39.000Conservative, traditional conservative inroads into, say over that and I, you could very easily see yourself in a situation where you've got a woke AI judge.
00:35:56.000You've got like a woke, like I mean, literally USAID was doing that.
00:36:01.000They were, they were having whole, they were funding NGOs to pressure the AI companies to, you know, spit out, like you know, black George Washington when you ask for a picture of George Washington, I'm not even kidding, like I Like, I've seen like USAID slide deck presentations prepared for meetings with AI senior leaders to get them to have more like trans representation in their image outputs.
00:36:26.000Like, you could see a world where, while on an ordinary topic, the AI would be a better judge, would exercise better judgment, but it would be very easy to code in just certain things that are just rigged.0.62
00:36:44.000Yeah, if you're going to train an AI leader.
00:36:46.000I think it should be a cacophony of AIs that are trained, and they should all be based off of each of our personalities if we can make it.
00:36:53.000Because you can take all your Mike Benz videos, have an AI read the transcripts, and then that could be one brain that feeds into this mega brain that is governing the system.
00:37:05.000Like on X, it calculates all our texts on X, and then it creates an AI for each of them, and then that's the governor of the state.
00:37:12.000To your point, Mike, there's a piece the other day written on the BBC.
00:37:18.000The headline is Police Using AI Risks Making Discrimination Worse, researchers warn.
00:37:24.000In his award winning essay, young British science writer Adrian Dredge wrote about the potential pitfalls of AI and policing.
00:37:31.000The essay won the 2026 Young Science Writers Award, chosen each year by the Association of British Science Writers.
00:37:37.000Here's an edited version of the entry The growing use of AI and policing risks increasing discrimination against minority groups, researchers have warned.
00:37:45.000Studies suggest that predictions of future crime hotspots may be based on biased data, which can magnify.
00:37:51.000Existing prejudices and create a dangerous feedback loop.
00:37:55.000If the data shows a certain, you know, produces a certain result, and that result is not what the powers that be want the result to be, and they say, well, you can't use this AI, or we have to adjust the weights to adjust the result, then you can't get, or you can't allow an AI like that to have any kind of significant control over society.
00:38:22.000Crazy thing is, that's where Anthropic is.
00:38:42.000And one of the unique things that resulted in Musk taking over X, taking over Twitter and making it X is when you have no dissent.
00:38:54.000Everybody can walk in lockstep very easily.
00:38:58.000But all it takes is one company or one thing saying, No, we're not doing that here.
00:39:04.000And then everybody else has to respond to that one.
00:39:07.000And you saw it with a lot of the big tech companies.
00:39:09.000Now, granted, all of the social media companies didn't turn into 4chan or anything.
00:39:15.000But when you were allowed to speak your mind on X and you didn't get booted from the platform for saying something that was not politically correct, you saw Facebook lighten their grip on X.
00:39:27.000Yeah, fired 40,000 of their fact checkers.
00:39:32.000They got rid of their entire fact checking program, except in countries where it was illegal to not have the manual fact checkers.
00:39:37.000They moved towards a community note system.
00:39:39.000I mean, and that happened very quickly, actually, after Elon did that.
00:39:44.000Zuckerberg started doing that in 2023, and you had the censorship industrial complex people complaining that Zuckerberg was quietly getting rid of all these firewalls around content moderation before his 2024 Jim Jordan letter, where he said he blamed Biden for the censorship, basically, and said the Biden admin forced us to censor COVID and all these other things.
00:40:09.000YouTube, you know, where they, I think they paid $50 million to Trump as restitution for banning his account, and they had a program to, for conservative accounts to reapply to get their accounts activated again.
00:40:23.000But I think that was also done not necessarily because they're based in Red Pill, but because they wanted Google to be able to apply for RD grants and AI acquisitions and, you know, have that overcome antitrust and be in the good graces of Trump while you had all these other.
00:40:43.000Tech companies who were sidling up to Trump, they didn't want to be on the sidelines.
00:40:46.000So I think that's probably what galvanized that more than an ideological shift.
00:40:50.000Although I do think Sergey Brin has turned significantly.
00:40:53.000But I just, I do think that we're moving towards a world where the AI companies that back you politically are going to be determinative of whether your political movement can be successful.
00:41:08.000Like you have Grok now as an alternative.
00:41:12.000It's not as, You know, it's not pacing the frontier in the same way that Anthropic and OpenAI are, but it is.
00:41:20.000You can see the vision with SpaceX, and just the fact that SpaceX is probably going to be, you know, at some point the global center of compute.
00:41:30.000You can see the potential power in the long run for.
00:41:34.000You could have like political elections that are basically determined by Grok versus Anthropic.
00:41:40.000If not in the US, you could see that happening in, you know, a country in Europe.
00:41:45.000We're going to talk about Poland, I think, at some point.
00:41:47.000And you could see that playing out there.
00:41:49.000I mean, Microsoft has given over $100 million through it directly and its main principles to the Obama Foundation, while the Obama Foundation has descended on Poland to do everything the EU wants because Microsoft has a financial incentive to unlock the whatever $35 billion in frozen funds or $100 billion, I think it was at some point.
00:42:15.000You look at that, and like Microsoft was actually set to receive a huge amount of money if that through IT EU deals, if that money was unlocked.
00:42:24.000And so they wanted to get rid of the right wing PIS party there.
00:42:26.000And the Obama Foundation was basically backing all these NGOs to get rid of the PIS party.
00:42:31.000So you have this like kind of corporate espionage, big tech sort of funding and back channeling these like political movements in Europe.
00:42:42.000You could see Elon and X as a counterweight to that.
00:42:47.000I think we're going to talk about pulling, but Sam Altman, we have his story.
00:42:50.000We even talked about it at the beginning of the show.
00:42:51.000He's talking about how it's not a good idea for people to have their RAM at home, to have local models, because it's a waste when you could compile it into a centralized server, have a mega brain as a result.
00:43:30.000From Futurism, Sam Altman absolutely hates the idea of people running their own AI models at home, argues they shouldn't own computers.
00:43:37.000He'd prefer if we surrender all our RAM to data centers.
00:43:41.000Shares of U.S. chip maker Intel cratered on Friday, plunging almost 30%, the worst stock collapse in 52 years.
00:43:47.000The wipeout, an analyst said, could be due to a massive slowdown in the PC market.
00:43:52.000The market softness shouldn't come to anybody's surprise, given the AI boom has made individual components, most notably memory and storage, practically unaffordable.
00:44:00.000However, leaders of AI Frontier Labs aren't blinking.
00:44:03.000To OpenAI CEO Sam Altman, for instance, having people run their own models at home on their own computers doesn't make any sense anyway.
00:44:09.000During a recent interview with the Cheeky Pint podcast, Altman argued that ongoing memory supply chain woes were because selfish individuals wanted to run their AI models locally instead of leaving the remaining AI chips alone for hyperscalers to hoard in data.0.91
00:44:31.000Whatever hypocrisy, whatever he professes, he's secretly doing the other thing on the other side of it.
00:44:37.000Play the clip of Sam Altman responding to Congress about whether or not he's invested, whether he's equity in OpenAI, and him saying that he's a bad business person on equity, on OpenAI equity.
00:45:17.000Uh, number one, I would form a new agency that licenses any effort above a certain scale of capabilities and could take that license away and ensure compliance with safety standards.
00:45:25.000Number two, I would create a set of safety standards focused on what you said in your third hypothesis as the dangerous capability evaluations.
00:45:33.000One example that we've used in the past is looking to see if a model can self replicate and self exfiltrate into the wild.
00:45:39.000We can give your office a long other list of the things that we think are important there.
00:47:21.000If someone else can just come in and basically do this open source, they get completely wrecked because they're paying for all these data centers and they have all these costs.
00:47:31.000And I don't even know yet if they've turned prop.
00:47:33.000There's a whole bubble question about whether or not OpenAI itself is a giant bubble.
00:47:38.000If it turns out that you can have basically no cost near peer competitors who do effectively the same thing but don't require a $20 a month subscription or a $200, $1,000 a month enterprise subscription, then OpenAI is completely screwed.
00:47:53.000And so he's not doing this because he wants this for the good of mankind.
00:47:58.000This is like saying you shouldn't own a wallet.
00:48:01.000You should pay everything into the public treasury.
00:48:04.000Oh, and by the way, I'm the Secretary of Treasury.
00:48:07.000I do see his point in one vector that it's like nuclear, it's like weapons.
00:48:12.000AI is like a weapon, a tool that can be weaponized.
00:48:15.000So if you give everyone unlimited power, they can blow up the world.
00:48:18.000Like if I had access to what OpenAI has at their central database, I could have blow up the world.
00:48:24.000And that's dangerous to give to the common man.
00:48:28.000Almost an infinite amount of uses other than as a weapon.
00:48:33.000Like, so yes, it's dangerous in the wrong hands, but it's not, but to classify it like nuclear weapons, nuclear weapons have one purpose, right?
00:51:11.000Or if it does, Other corporations should have access to that technology and have a different terms of service that I can go to and still access the technology.
00:51:59.000If you don't have access to Facebook, you can go to X. If you don't have access to whatever social media site, there are other social media sites that you can go to.
00:52:08.000You can express yourself on the internet, and there is a market for this.
00:52:12.000This is why I say things like we need to have multiple AI companies because there should be a market so you can select.
00:52:19.000And again, this is the exact point I was making earlier when I said, as soon as X opened up, the other ones loosened their control.
00:52:27.000Because having one that allows everybody to do whatever they want or say whatever they want changes the entire landscape.
00:54:15.000I know being able to use the platform is different than just saying it out loud.
00:54:19.000But if they come and grab you on the street corner because you're saying something that violates the sensibilities of the day, that's not a good thing.
00:54:26.000No, nobody's making the argument that that is a good thing.
00:54:28.000I don't know why you're saying that is.
00:54:29.000No, the only thing, I mean, just a few years ago, wasn't that sort of the reality?
00:54:32.000Until Elon Musk comes along and buys X, we're not talking about any of this in the past tense.
00:54:39.000I do remember when Jordan Peterson got locked out of his Google account.
00:54:44.000Or, I mean, you have not even that, but as it deals with politics, I mean, you had like the Hunter Biden laptop story that was explicitly covered up by, I think, Facebook and Meta.
00:54:54.000So they really were pulling, or at least the government was pulling the levers of the conversation with this kind of control.
00:55:13.000As, like, the noble sort of oligarch, then we're all.
00:55:17.000The fact that he could, that he was, that someone was able to come in and only through market forces change things is the evidence that we don't need to have, like, government or complete overlords.
00:56:17.000But it doesn't, it's not like the Congress says, oh, wait a minute, we're going to pass this law, and then it automatically evaporates because it's unconstitutional.
00:57:01.000But the erosion has been going on for the entirety of the Republic, right?
00:57:07.000Some people would make the argument that after the Civil War, the 14th Amendment changed more than just the things that people thought, you know, the equal protection clause.
00:57:17.000That in the New Deal changed things, and oh, that was an erosion of people's rights because it made the government into a position that it should never have been in.
00:57:27.000So there are changes to the government that I personally think that sometimes they're bad.0.54
00:57:32.000The direct election of senators by the people, I think that was bad.
00:57:36.000It took the power of the states and lessened the power of the states.
00:57:39.000So your point is well taken, but it doesn't change the fact that we don't, the way that you're talking about it, Ian, is.
00:57:48.000It shouldn't be able to function poorly, or we can prevent it from messing up.
00:58:12.000I don't know how close it was because there was, like, I mean, Florida was the state that people were fleeing to, North and South Dakota were like, we're not doing any of this.
00:58:19.000There were different states that had different rules.
00:58:21.000And some states, yes, like states like California, states like New York, they had very expansive and very strict COVID lockdowns and rules.
00:58:29.000But states like Texas and other states, they didn't.
00:58:33.000So the point that I'm making is the fact that we have different jurisdictions is a bulwark against what you're talking about.
00:58:40.000The whole world fell almost completely, except for a few American states.
00:58:44.000The whole world was given in to that, except for like Sweden, I think, Switzerland.
00:58:55.000It shouldn't have been able to happen in the first place because people should have had other networks that they could have gone to when one decides you can't be on mine.
00:59:01.000You have a right to that data, you have a right to access communication.
00:59:06.000And I don't think that there's ever been a.
00:59:09.000Like, the only person that's really gotten the ban, like, totally, is like Nick Fuentes.
00:59:19.000Like, you're not prevented from creating something of your own.
00:59:24.000So I understand what you're saying that we don't want to have, you know, a total control by any one entity.
00:59:31.000But at the same time, I don't think that we actually were that close.
00:59:35.000There were states, there were countries.
00:59:37.000And they're like different jurisdictions had different rules.
00:59:40.000I mean, I'm I'm I detest the stuff that Massachusetts and California and New York did.
00:59:46.000There were there was far too many governors, Illinois, too many governors that were completely on the side of you know, do whatever the government says and and we should force people to get the jab and et cetera, et cetera.
00:59:59.000And I'm totally against all that stuff.
01:00:01.000New Hampshire, we didn't have I mean, we had some lockdowns, but we didn't have all that, you know, we didn't have the the same kind of Situation that Massachusetts did in Florida, they didn't have the same kind of situation.
01:00:11.000We also had like the massive migration that you're talking about from those states into Texas, into Florida, and you're seeing that already play out like in the upcoming midterms where like Texas is like fully a purple state again.
01:00:25.000I mean, we could see like Texas, I mean, it's going to hell under Republican control right now.
01:00:32.000So, you know, next time that COVID sort of event happens with this massive move of people from New York City and California and everywhere else.
01:00:40.000Maybe they're not a bulwark against this, like total control that we almost saw.
01:00:45.000Oh, with AI, I mean, the amount of fortification that's going on right now in the background to prepare for the next attempt at totalitarian takeover.
01:00:53.000I can only fathom, I can't even begin to understand the amount of coordination that's happening with AI behind the scenes right now.
01:00:59.000So that should, it should not be allowed to get that close again.
01:01:02.000The Fourth Amendment is the one that I'm most concerned with because, in, you know, the internet age altered and basically put liberalism on its knees.
01:01:11.000It's getting a Bombarded from every direction with new ideologies.
01:01:49.000And if there is some way to prevent them from doing it, some kind of legislation, some way to say, we're going to make sure that the people that are in charge of the Homeland Security, they're going to make sure that we don't do that kind of stuff to Americans, I'm all for it, 100%.
01:02:05.000But people have decided en masse that their privacy is not as important to them.
01:02:14.000People my age, people your age, we have a sense of what actual privacy is because we remember the days before smartphones, before computers were everywhere, right?
01:02:24.000Like, I remember I had a beeper when I was a teenager.
01:02:29.000Young people, Gen Z, they do not have a concept of privacy in the same way that we do.0.91
01:02:35.000When I have friends that are young that have their location services turned on, they share their location with their friends, all their friends, and everybody can just look at the phone and be like, This person's there, this person's there.1.00
01:02:50.000That, like, there's only one person that I share my location with, right?
01:03:34.000Like, I don't think there should be flock cameras on every street corner or what have you.
01:03:38.000But the idea of, hey, we shouldn't be consistently watched, that's kind of something that is reserved for maybe millennials, Gen X, and boomers.
01:03:53.000The one is like the Borg, where I want to know your thoughts.
01:03:56.000I want you all to understand what I'm thinking, and I want to see your thoughts as I'm communicating.
01:04:00.000You bounce back and forth between that and what's that.
01:04:02.000And you bounce back and forth between like sharing your brainwaves with everybody.0.99
01:04:06.000Humans are so evil and dirty and Dog nasty that I need to know what they're all thinking and they need to know what I'm thinking so that we can get on the same page or we're going to kill each other.0.97
01:04:29.000Did you guys have something to bring up?
01:04:30.000I just don't know what direction we're supposed to go right now.
01:04:32.000Do you think everyone should just put the Neuralink and turn on the location services for that and just, you know, be constantly monitored?
01:04:40.000Well, the thing that concerns me on that is the legal side of it.
01:04:43.000The fact that, like, you know, when this gets to the point where, which we're just already, you know, 60%, I think, through the process of, like, your whole life is filtered through one or more AI systems or services.
01:05:03.000And it's now, I think about, I think about, what was it?
01:05:24.000It's like, you know, whatever you think of the rally or whether it was, you know, to protect monuments or it was whatever else, like that was a situation where, like, that woman died.
01:05:35.000It's always a tragedy when a life, you know, is taken.
01:05:39.000But you had, like, Antifa swarming this car and.
01:05:46.000Antifa, who's like regularly hitting people with bike locks at the time, like knocking people unconscious and permanently disfiguring them.
01:05:55.000You don't know if you're going to be killed.
01:05:58.000I don't know the facts with too much specificity in terms of whether there was some other way he could have backed out instead of going forward.
01:06:05.000You know, this woman was kind of morbidly obese, and, you know, so any little thing might, you know, trigger some sort of heart attack.
01:06:14.000But what I'm getting at is I remember so vividly what happened in the trial.
01:06:20.000Was they were arguing that he had a state of mind because whether it's murder or manslaughter is, let alone the self defense argument, whether it's murder or manslaughter depends on whether you had the intent to kill someone or not.
01:06:38.000And they proved the intent by going into his phone and finding memes that he had saved from 4chan.
01:06:45.000And then the prosecutors would put these 4chan memes in front of the jurors and say he had hate in his heart.
01:06:53.000Conviction by Meme Stash on the phone.
01:06:58.000And then it became an explosion of basically convicting people by.
01:07:04.000You don't know the context of what they saved it for.
01:07:07.000You don't know if it was just a funny thing, a joke to send to a friend, something you actually opposed, but you're sort of saving it for archival purposes.
01:07:16.000You're going to make a video speaking out against what that meme stands for.
01:07:22.000When that's presented by a prosecutor in the context of a criminal trial, The jury is going to believe the prosecutor that you're going to have to explain, no, no, no, really, I was making this for a video project, and that's not really what I believe.
01:07:38.000You can imagine this with AI tracking every moment of every day.
01:07:42.000Right now, there, I think, was it stovepipe or something?
01:07:47.000They're all these personalized contextual things to train your AI apps and software and things being developed right now so that every moment of your day can be watched by your personal AI so that.
01:08:01.000You know, you meet someone, you forget their name, you can just ask your AI.
01:08:05.000It can run on your computer all day, so it can personalize tasks.
01:08:09.000What website did I, was I going to at 3 o'clock?
01:08:15.000And it can personalize all of it for you.
01:08:17.000I think everything is going to skate in that direction because it's just going to be so friggin' useful.
01:08:21.000And it will just optimize your AI so much more.
01:08:25.000It will help you with your research, it will help you with your work, it will allow you to train agentic AI in a hyper optimized way for you and your life and your interests and what you want.
01:08:35.000And that will be a permanent record for prosecutors or for you get suit in a defamation case, discovery.
01:08:44.000They get all your messages, they get all your AI history, everything you asked for.
01:08:47.000I mean, we saw this play out with the, what was it, the Goldman Sachs thing with the woman, I forget which, maybe it was JP Morgan.
01:08:55.000Oh, yeah, I know what you're talking about.0.97
01:08:56.000Yeah, the woman who claimed that she got like a, you know, the guy claimed she was like forced to get a blowjob or something.0.97
01:09:12.000But when these text messages come out from civil litigation and they end up on X, that becomes a public narrative over whatever happened there.
01:09:30.000We're entering this era where your relationship with your AI is going to be intensely personal.
01:09:36.000It's going to capture every aspect of your life.
01:09:38.000And then the You will, the moment someone decides to sue you maliciously in a lawsuit and you end up in discovery, or a local DA comes after you, all that's going to be public.
01:09:50.000And I don't think people are prepared for the level of no privacy that will come from that.
01:10:46.000I think this was what was happening with Fable and Anthropic, where pre release they were like hacking the NSA.
01:10:54.000And because of the power of offensive AI to be able to do, like right now, if you run a Google search for how to make a pipe bomb, you're in a database.
01:11:06.000You're going to have 12 new best friends named, you know, Rick, Tim, John, and Don, and they're all going to be from DHS, FBI, you know, U.S. Army counterintelligence.
01:11:17.000Like the moment you put that into a Google search, your life will become a Truman show of federal law enforcement.
01:11:24.000That is because when people were doing that, there became public pressure and there became policies in law enforcement to use that as a dragnet for searching for things.
01:11:37.000But the fact is, now if someone was doing that and they did commit an attack and law enforcement didn't have eyes on them, that police chief is going to lose his job, that FBI, JTTF guy is going to lose his job because they weren't doing their diligence monitoring.
01:12:09.000So, to your point, not only will these organizations, these federal law enforcement organizations, be looking to protect themselves from litigation, the public is also going to demand that they, well, why didn't you know?
01:12:28.000And And the evidence, I think, is the fact that that meme, he was on our radar, mocking the FBI, mocking the law enforcement agencies for saying, well, we knew about him, but we didn't know the details.
01:12:39.000We didn't have enough to put him in jail or to pick him up.
01:12:42.000You're going to see a demand from the population to use this technology to prevent terrible things.
01:12:48.000I think Anthropic just kind of publicized that they're now Anthropic, the AI itself is self reporting on the fly, as you go, everything.
01:12:58.000It reads its own, and it's like, all right, you said that, you said that.
01:13:02.000And if there's classified stuff, it will auto send it to, you know, because I think people have gotten caught like uploading classified documents, you know, to Anthropic and then, or to OpenAI, and then, you know, you can, the AI can read that this is a classified document on a, you know, unsecured server.
01:13:26.000And I think actually there were like Chinese state secrets that, Open AI turned over to the NSA because people in China were uploading mystery foreign affairs documents to make sense of it using these.
01:13:42.000So that is going to be, you're going to have this AI pre crime type thing, and not just for petty crime, but for political thought crime.0.79
01:13:54.000This has been a part of the Chinese system and their great firewall and everything through Weibo.0.83
01:14:01.000And it's going to be a system for political control in a way that is just unbelievable.0.97
01:14:07.000But the problem is, politically, how do you survive something that is.
01:14:12.000Because in the crypto space itself, it's not just on the cyber AI able to cyber hack a crypto exchange or compute to get powerful enough for us to just break cryptography and just break Bitcoin altogether.
01:14:25.000But then crypto itself was one of these things that it allows, if you were to have anonymous financial transactions with no banking intermediary, where the banks have to do no your customer and anti money laundering, check the box compliance to flag suspicious transactions or flag OFAC violations.
01:14:51.000If you're sending money to a sanctioned person or in a sanctioned country, Like, we have laws against doing financial trade with those.
01:15:01.000Like, if you have unregulated crypto and you can do that, if you allow that dark zone, then it can scale to a point where it becomes a national security.
01:15:13.000I'm just thinking, how do you survive?
01:15:15.000How does that freedom survive politically in a world with a national security state as powerful as we have?
01:15:23.000And how does that freedom to have your own AI survive politically when personalized AI has the.
01:15:32.000As the power to be so powerful for you as an individual.
01:15:37.000One thing that can help solve it is to understand that crime can be good.
01:15:41.000It is a weird thing to say, but sometimes law is evil.0.91
01:15:56.000So, yeah, sometimes you're supposed to break the law.
01:15:58.000George Washington would tell you the same thing broke the king's law, just formed the most badass union.
01:16:02.000If the AI can understand the context of legality and that sometimes breaking the law is the right thing to do, that might help.
01:16:09.000I don't know how you instill morality or that sort of perceptual capacity in this thing.
01:16:16.000Like, I know that the authorities a lot of times want to strictly use, but the righteous know that the law is not always the lay of the land.
01:16:25.000I don't think an AI can become righteous.
01:16:30.000So, like, these things, like you're talking about, these are.
01:16:33.000These are born out of a love for humanity.
01:16:36.000So it's kind of like if you go back to like the medievals, like you had Thomas Aquinas who talked about this idea that evil was not its own entity.
01:16:43.000It was a lack of goodness, it was a privation of the good.
01:16:50.000If you just give everything to AI, it's just going to, it's a numbers game.
01:16:56.000It's going to say what is the best outcome for the most amount of people.
01:16:59.000It's not going to judge everything on an individual scale.
01:17:03.000And the reason I say that is because we've seen AI decide, like you ask AI, you know, would you use the N word or would you allow a nuclear bomb to go off?
01:18:10.000But then, how much is your life worth?
01:18:13.000Maybe you keep all the nuclear secrets.
01:18:17.000But I mean, you know that, I mean, you've studied philosophy, so you know Nietzsche said that with the death of God, man will have to make his own morality.
01:18:25.000And in a secular society like we have, even though we are steeped in Christian morality, there are plenty of people that don't believe that Christian morality is right and that believe, well, I have my own morality.
01:19:52.000So here you see, this is just a great example of why people will say, well, You know, people can say, Well, it's moral for me to save my own life because it's my life.
01:20:49.000George Patton said it's not up to you to die for your country.
01:20:52.000It's up for that guy to die for your country, the enemy guy.
01:20:56.000He was very clear about not sacrificing.
01:20:58.000But what's funny is you can imagine the AI actually having to make an instantaneous decision about how much your life is worth versus the five kids.
01:21:06.000Like imagine it was the president's car in that situation and you have the president of the United States who's responsible for the welfare of 350 million Americans and versus five random kids.
01:21:20.000I mean, you can imagine in that case, the AI is basically making an instantaneous decision about the versus if your AI, if your car's personalized AI thinks you're a loser and you're not going to do anything useful in life.
01:23:14.000Look, I mean, that's, we already, our court system already works like that.
01:23:18.000I mean, to use the defamation case example, if you say, A unjustified insult to random person X versus you say to a high net worth individual, the high net worth individual can make the claim that that insult has cost me $100 million.
01:23:37.000Versus the other person just couldn't, a random person on the street couldn't make the argument that that insult is depriving you of $100 million.
01:23:46.000You don't have a $100 million business.
01:23:48.000You don't have $100 million in expected future earnings.
01:23:57.000Let the other person is worth a lot more, and so it costs a lot more to attack them or insult them or say something about them.
01:24:08.000They're just valued more, and so, like, the law has made the decision effectively that they're just worth more.
01:24:17.000Their life is worth more, their expected life earnings are worth more, and so they need that you project out 10 years worth of what you expect to do in the future.
01:24:29.000Every time you open your mouth about someone.
01:24:30.000So, this is like the value of the monetary value of a human person.
01:24:34.000And then there's like the value of his ethics.
01:24:36.000Like Jesus, who has more value, Jesus Christ or Pontius Pilate?
01:24:41.000Most people would say Jesus Christ, even though he's probably poor compared to Pontius.
01:24:46.000The Roman government might have said Pontius was worth a lot more.
01:24:48.000That's why we have to take over the AI safety movement, co opt it, steer it.
01:24:53.000You can't have this like World Economic Forum people as the only people in the game on this.
01:24:58.000I am on the side of the accelerationist, but there has to be representation within that safety movement in order to stop the safety people and the effective altruists and the polyamorous, crazy, weird sex cult of San Francisco and Brussels from being able to just control these weights in the name of safety.
01:25:34.000President Karl Narowacki, Poland's head of state, aligned with the right wing Law and Justice Party, canceled a Friday trip to Senegal and is heading back to Warsaw amid what his allies are calling a coup d'etat.
01:25:46.000Metropolitan Police Headquarters announced Friday that its officers are carrying out statutory activities at the premises of the constitutional tribunal in Warsaw, the nation's highest court.
01:25:56.000Authorities have removed security from the premises but put up barriers around the area as they attempt to restore public order amid a forced change of leadership.
01:26:04.000At such a moment, the president must be in Poland.
01:26:06.000I'm interrupting my flight to Senegal.
01:26:08.000Returning, Naraki wrote on social media.
01:26:11.000Prime Minister Donald Tusk, a bitter political adversary of Naraki and the Constitutional Tribunal, took credit for the raid and said it was necessary to prevent lawlessness.
01:26:19.000Poland has been a thorn in the side of the EU for, I'm not really sure how long, but for the better part of a decade because they have refused to take in migrants.
01:26:31.000They've become the example of what your society can be like if you do not take in migrants.
01:26:39.000And I think that this is an effort.1.00
01:26:43.000This is an effort to basically smash that example because you see, this is coinciding with all the riots in Paris, with all the riots in Italy, with what people are calling an invasion of Spain because of all of the migrants in Ciuta that ran around the fence.
01:27:03.000I think it was like 40,000 people in Ciuta.
01:27:06.000And those people are going to become Spanish citizens.0.92
01:27:08.000They're going to jump on the boats and head on over to mainland Spain.0.52
01:27:15.000Cannot have this example of a peaceful, riotless, homogenous society and have the other countries see what it's like and say, well, why is it that we have to live with the riots?
01:27:30.000Why is it that we have to live with the civil unrest when this doesn't happen in Poland?0.74
01:27:37.000Yeah, there's the immigration, there's the LGBT issues as well, there's the energy politics.
01:27:45.000I mean, Poland is the linchpin of a lot of.
01:27:49.000The transatlantic blobs play around Ukraine and a number of things.
01:27:56.000Well, we blew up the Nord Stream pipeline to obviously deprive Russia of being able to have state revenue to fund their military and to fund their palace guard type stuff while we were working on the Navalny coup and all that stuff.
01:28:11.000But at the same time, we were building LNG terminals, liquefied natural gas, in Poland to connect into Ukraine so that you would have basically.0.82
01:28:21.000Liquefied natural gas from Houston, Texas, or from Norway, replace the Russians.
01:28:29.000And so you would have Ukraine basically continuing to have its gas transit terminals to be able to send gas deeper into Europe still intact, just porting in basically through these Polish terminals that would then connect into Ukraine rather than it coming from Russia.
01:28:49.000And so there was a huge play for control over Poland, where Poland was.
01:28:54.000Has been really over the past decade, there's been a kind of civil war between their traditionalist conservative right, which is the PIS party, and this globalist EU and Democrat Party in the US centered Donald Tusk faction.
01:29:12.000And right now you have a situation where Donald Tusk is still the prime minister, but in so the EU controls kind of the Democrat Party in the US and the EU and their mega donors effectively are.
01:29:27.000Puppeteering Donald Tusk, and then you've got a kind of MAGA alliance around Naraki, the president.
01:29:35.000So they have this two different, very, very opposing factions control the prime ministership versus the presidency.
01:29:43.000And I mean, you had a crazy situation where it was, in fact, I've done a lot of publishing on this, and you can even look it up on my ex if you just look at, just as a point of reference, because I think it gets to exactly what's going on here.
01:29:59.000If you type in, if you go to my X account, it's at Mike Ben Cyber, and you type in Poland.
01:30:08.000If you just type in, if you go to my profile and then you do a search, like, yeah, just like click on my profile and then just go to the search in the top right.
01:30:19.000No, no, no, the button to the left of it, which does a native search.
01:30:23.000Yeah, and you just type in, let's say Poland and Ned.
01:30:32.000So, this is the National Endowment for Democracy, which was set up to be a basically privatized CIA in 1983.
01:30:42.000It was set up during the Cold War at the time when Democrats were opposing the CIA because of the CIA screwing with the Democrats in the 70s.
01:30:49.000National Endowment for Democracy, it was spearheaded effectively by the CIA, by Bill Casey, the CIA director.
01:30:58.000Its founders said that it was set up to do what the CIA wanted to but couldn't do logistically.
01:31:03.000It's all over, you know, classified cables.
01:31:27.000If you start at the beginning of this, in the screenshots, and my caption was USAID's partner and operational arm, the National Endowment for Democracy.
01:31:34.000Ned has been specifically demanding Donald Tusk's government in Poland must find ways to arrest high ranking members of the right wing PIS party in order to quote, stamp out populism.
01:31:44.000They wrote this Tusk's first month in office.
01:31:47.000So, Donald Tusk, the current prime minister, as soon as he got in, and I believe it was 2023, within a month of him getting into office, the Biden CIA writes, How to dismantle in the liberal democracy, and this is what to do to stamp out populism.
01:32:05.000And populism, this is just Right wing conservatism in Europe, effectively.
01:32:10.000And if you go to the so on the next screenshot, I'll just walk through this.
01:32:14.000So it says Poland's new government must do more than just return to liberal democracy.
01:32:20.000Now, transitional justice is a jargon term that means it's a check the box thing that our blob does every time we narrowly win, one of our puppets narrowly wins an election in a foreign country to make sure that whatever group Just, we just beaten the election, is permanently stamped out.
01:32:41.000Transitional justice means arresting the people while you're transitioning to the new government.
01:32:46.000You arrest everybody from the old government.
01:32:48.000This is what we did in, you know, Serbia when we got rid of Milosevic.
01:32:53.000This is what we did in Ukraine when we did the coup in 2014 and went after all of Yanukovych's people.
01:33:13.000You know, $80 million in paying off all the different labor leaders, business leaders, women's groups, LGBT groups, you know, ministers of justice, and rank.
01:33:24.000You want the country to be on autopilot.
01:33:26.000You want it to be in a state of, quote, stabilization, where it's just easy to win all the elections because there's no one running against you.
01:33:34.000So next year's budget at USAID can be $8 million rather than $80 million because you don't need to deal with that party in the next election.
01:33:44.000That's the transitional justice playbook.
01:33:45.000And you'll see Ned talk about it just like that, the same way.
01:33:49.000We'll talk about the Democrats' plan for the United States in a little bit.
01:33:52.000Which is exactly, and this is what they did with Trump and all of Trump's allies.
01:33:56.000And so you see, it's to stabilize the political system to ensure that populism does not return in the next election.
01:34:03.000So it was literally as soon as Tusk got in in like 2023, it was arrest everyone from PIS to make sure that the PIS party can't win the next election.
01:34:12.000And this is coming from the American Central Intelligence Agency, or at least the number one cutout.
01:34:16.000So if you go to the next screenshot, what you'll see is the new government.
01:34:21.000So therefore, there are a number of cases that should be tried immediately.
01:34:25.000This includes the 2015 appointment of judges in the Constitutional Tribunal.
01:34:28.000This is the very one where the riots are popping off at today.
01:34:32.000So, this is the CIA instructing the newly elected Donald Tusk to invalidate the appointment of judges in this very court.
01:34:43.000Ironically, to go after the PIS party for basically supporting mail in ballots.
01:34:48.000I mean, it's just like illegal to not support mail in ballot systems here, but they wanted to make it illegal.
01:34:56.000And then they go over a bunch of, so these are just illustrative cases that are just the tip of the iceberg.
01:35:01.000Naturally, the leader of the Law and Justice Party, this is the previous one, Kaczynski, should be held responsible.
01:35:07.000But legally, and if you go to the next screenshot, legally proving allegations against him will likely be difficult.
01:35:15.000So we don't even have a case against this guy, but we should find a way to arrest him.
01:35:18.000And then they go over, you know, I think in the screenshots below or wherever, like they go over a list of all the different people who have to be arrested and especially control.
01:35:29.000Because their concern is that there might be a holdout pocket of power for the right wing party at the courts.
01:35:36.000And so this is why Donald Tusk has sought to basically establish a parallel court system.
01:35:41.000And now there is a constitutional crisis.
01:35:44.000Frankly, this is the sort of thing that a country like Brazil deserves when you have their Supreme Court basically controlling the entire politics of the country, imprisoning all the opposition movement leaders, controlling speech on social media.
01:36:00.000So they want basically the blob wants the Brazilian Supreme Court to have that power in Brazil, but for the left wing socialist communists there, but not for the right wing conservatives to have that power in Poland.
01:36:32.000Do you think that this is going to be something that's successful?
01:36:35.000Is Poland going to become another puppet state of Brussels?
01:36:41.000Unfortunately, the MAGA movement does not have a well trained or well armed diplomatic elite class when it comes to the transatlantic relationship with Europe.
01:36:56.000We do not, I would be surprised if there was.
01:37:02.000I would be pleasantly surprised if there was one political appointee in this administration whose full time job is the geopolitics of Poland.
01:37:16.000I'm not sure there's a single political appointee whose job is just Poland.
01:37:21.000You're going to have the Undersecretary for Europe and Eurasian Affairs at the State Department, he is going to handle 27 countries.
01:37:40.000That is, the Democrats have an unbelievably robust, and not just the Democrats, also a lot of the neoconservative transatlantic elite, the John McCain style folks, whose, you know, basically benefactors are going to include all of the LNG companies.
01:37:57.000Like they will have a Poland's eye view from the commercial standpoint.
01:38:02.000And they will have relationships with the oil and gas companies.
01:38:05.000They'll have relationships with the tech companies who are caught in the middle of this.
01:38:09.000With the EU freezing Poland funds and the like.
01:38:11.000But they are not going to have an ideological conservative, they will have an ideological liberal rules based international order bend, even the conservatives in that space.
01:38:24.000And so, my concern, and this has been just a perennial concern in the first Trump administration and here in 47, which is that there is no quarterback for a North Star in terms of our statecraft.
01:38:42.000In terms of issues like Poland or in terms of issues like Brazil, I mean, Marco Rubio has 20 jobs.
01:38:49.000You know, I mean, every time a janitorial position gets opened up in, you know, some suburb of Kansas, someone makes a meme of, hey, it's Marco Rubio's fifth job.
01:38:59.000He was the national archivist, he was the USA administrator, he's the national security advisor, he's the secretary of state.
01:39:08.000We have a play to take over all of Venezuela, we have a play to take over Greenland, Poland.
01:39:17.000Is an incredibly important pivot piece in the geopolitics of Europe, in the commercial enterprise of what we're doing around Russia, Ukraine, and Brussels.
01:39:27.000But we don't have anyone focused on this.
01:39:32.000And so I don't think there's going to be.
01:39:36.000I will be pleasantly surprised if there's any diplomatic support besides maybe some truth statements on Truth Social, or maybe, you know, we'll extradite some PIS party official who gets prosecuted by Donald Tusk.
01:40:40.000I mean, there's so many things that you could do in order to help international MAGA, if you will, that are not being done and everything is just being basically delegated to the U.S. Embassy in Poland.
01:41:25.000I mean, the machine, and my buddy was like campaigning for, Bernie Sanders is like, dude, you have no idea the amount of coordination the Democrats have on the ground.
01:41:33.000Like it has been building and building for decades and decades.
01:41:37.000Can a Republican administration, can an outside force match it?
01:41:43.000One individual administration can't because, to your point, this has been built over decades.
01:41:48.000So it's going to take time to unravel.
01:41:51.000That's part of the reason why it's so frustrating when you hear people complaining about the Republicans in the U.S. and I'm not going to go vote because Donald Trump hasn't done this or the Republicans haven't done that.
01:42:02.000And while their complaints are justified and understandable, Their expectations are not right.
01:42:09.000Like this, this monstrosity that we're dealing with has was not built in one administration, it wasn't built overnight, it was built by both parties over decades.
01:42:19.000And the idea that Donald Trump was going to be able to go in and just flip a switch and turn everything off that was never ever going to be possible.
01:42:28.000There's a phenomenon that I see in Africa with the power grid.
01:42:32.000We we developed, you know, our coal power, oil power.
01:42:36.000This, these countries in Africa have no electricity.
01:42:39.000For 100 years, and then all of a sudden they start putting solar panels on their houses.
01:42:42.000They don't even have a central grid because now they've bypassed, they've leapfrogged into this new way of doing things, and they didn't even have to get embroiled in the old way.
01:42:50.000So I can see that with our government, that we could somehow leapfrog this industrial complex into a new sort of decentralized autocracy or autonomy.
01:43:00.000I mean, it's a metaphor, but it can happen structurally.
01:43:03.000And if it can happen in one zone of reality, structurally, it can happen in many zones.
01:43:08.000I just don't know if they would use AI.
01:43:33.000The American government, a new force of government that comes in that tries to upend the liberal economic order could do it with new technology.
01:44:18.000Forced to create a new USAID that's more structurally sound.
01:44:22.000I think he's talking more big picture, like conceptually, more than actually how it's going to be done or how it would be done.
01:44:28.000Well, I think he's talking about like what your point in American politics, where we're talking about like the frustrations with the maybe perceived inaction.0.64
01:45:30.000But I feel that I would not be surprised if the Polish PIS party and folks around that, or the conservatives in Poland, would probably have a lot more support for what's happening there if there was deal flow in Poland or around Polish energy sectors or whatever it is.
01:45:54.000If there was someone somewhere in the admin whose friends or donors or Nephews or whatever was making money off of it, I think you would see State Department intervention and support.
01:46:08.000And because it's like if a country is just honest and ideologically aligned, I don't think they get any help.
01:46:16.000I don't think we even focus on it or put a political person on it.
01:46:21.000And that is a very difficult thing to defend, honestly, as a MAGA person, because we on the outside are not a part of these deals.
01:46:32.000And so, but we support ideologically as conservatives what's happening, you know, with the Polish conservatives trying to take back their country against an EU blobocracy.
01:46:43.000But that does not get translated into U.S. foreign policy, it appears to me, in this administration, unless there's some insider getting a deal that profits, unless their minister of finance has agreed, you know, to do some deal that helps some, you know, MAGA world donor or benefactor or aligned oligarch or friend or family member.
01:47:06.000And because I don't see a lot of press happening right now with Polish, you know, conservative insiders making deals with Trump insiders, it's the problem is endemic around that.
01:47:20.000We have a, we have a, there was supposed to be an explosion of MAGA aligned foreign policy think tanks, you know, AFPI and the like, and all these, you know, American Moment, and all these type of, you know, groups that have popped up as a kind of new foreign policy.
01:47:35.000But what you don't see any diplomatic, um, I don't know, embodiment of that.
01:47:43.000And we're just doing deal craft rather than state craft.
01:48:25.000But the thing that you laid out, right, the methods that you laid out, there have been a bunch of reporting by someone named Data Republican on X.
01:48:51.000She's been doing the data, the democracy files for at least the past two weeks or so.
01:48:56.000I want to get, I'm sure you're very familiar with it and you're very well versed in this.
01:49:01.000So please unpack that for the viewers so that they can understand what is at stake.
01:49:06.000Because at the end of the day, the goal is to install a permanent Democrat blob or I guess reinstall probably the permanent Democrat blob control of the levers of power in the United States.
01:49:22.000And so, look, I don't think the deep state is the main thing plaguing 47.
01:49:30.000The deep state was absolutely savage during 45.
01:49:34.000And the deep state has manifested itself, especially through our courts, the D.C. court system, and the legal blocking of basically every good, you know, executive action during the first year of this admin.
01:49:47.000But what you had during Trump won was basically a lot of just lame duck.
01:49:56.000Presidency because you had this institutional and insider and career capture.
01:50:04.000And right now, you don't really see that manifested as much because there has been.
01:50:43.000And also, Trump has a lot more allies on the outside now than he did in 45.
01:50:49.000The overtures to the outside oligarch class is very powerful in terms of them not funding, you know, all these NGOs and protest movements to unseat him.
01:51:03.000In a Trump presidency with everything going on, there were no left wing protests the whole summer in D.C.
01:51:10.000It was shocking to see having lived through 2017, 2018, 2019, BLM 2020.0.91
01:51:17.000You know, the day one, it was the pussy hat stuff, you know, when Trump got there.
01:51:23.000So what you are seeing is the attempt to reactivate what has been a somewhat dormant force during 47.0.90
01:51:33.000Because of the kind of shock and awe blitzkrieg that was done during the Doge era to cut out a lot of these blob elements from the inside.
01:51:39.000But they're trying to reactivate that because they think, with a Democrat control over the House and Senate, if they're successful in the midterms next week, that they will then be able to activate those control systems that have been nipped in a lot of ways because of Doge and other things.
01:51:58.000So these democracy files are kind of scene setting for things that will be options that will be available for blob control once they have.
01:52:07.000A hook in the House and a hook in the Senate and a hook in oversight.
01:52:12.000Because right now, they can't do really any oversight at all.
01:52:15.000Without a majority in the House, they can't form a, you know, they can't, they have no subpoena power with the House Judiciary Committee or the House Oversight Committee.
01:52:25.000And so, what you have, I think the best scene setting, actually, before we get to the actual substance of these, if you open up a new tab quickly and just type in notice, N O T U S, if you.0.70
01:53:15.000Former USAID and State Department officials worried about the future of democracy in America say they're actively organizing to resist Trump inside and outside of government.
01:53:22.000And if you control F for the word solitaire, or if you just scroll down.
01:54:19.000You see, from just the quote there.0.78
01:54:22.000They were so quick to disband USAID, the group that supposedly instigates color revolutions, but they've done a very foolish thing.0.67
01:54:29.000You just released a bunch of well trained individuals into your population.0.71
01:54:34.000If you kept our offices going and had us play solitaire in the office, it may have been safer to keep your regime.
01:54:41.000So these are 14,000 USAID employees, staff, and officials were terminated with the shutdown of USAID, the effective shutdown.
01:54:53.00014,000 viruses released into the bloodstream of the American Democracy Project.
01:55:01.000And openly saying, if you had kept us on payroll and had us do nothing, you would be safer because now we're going to take our special set of skills that you paid us for 30 years to develop to overthrow the government of Serbia and overthrow the government of, you know.
01:55:16.000To your point, you see, like this, this from Kalshi.
01:55:19.000We're going to thank Kalshi for sponsoring this piece.
01:55:24.000Who would have thought that Tallarico would be at 72%, according to Kalshi, compared to Ken Paxton at 28% four days before the election, right?
01:55:55.000Well, and Texas is the seat of American oil and gas.
01:55:58.000And from what I've read, it's not just a left wing flank against Ken Paxton there in Texas.
01:56:05.000There's also a Bush family coup, the same Bush family who went after Ken Paxton.
01:56:11.000If you remember during, I think it was in 2023, they tried to impeach him.
01:56:15.000And it turned out the whole kind of coup to impeach him when he was, as Texas state attorney general, traced back to a kind of Republican civil war playing out in Texas.
01:56:25.000Texas between the Trump and the and the George legacy George Bush power center side there.
01:56:30.000And but you know, that oil and gas seat is also going to be very influential on, you know, our national geopolitics because so much of that is our oil policies are basically the you know the level setting mechanism for all policies on everything because the whole world runs on oil and gas, it just does, and it has since the dawn of the industrial age.
01:56:59.000That's why Texas is the cowboy power center, you know, traditionally of the Republican Party.
01:57:04.000But then, when Trump won in 2016 and challenged not just the Hillary Clinton dynasty, but the George Bush one, I mean, it's one of the reasons that the grand energy play in Ukraine played out the way it did and why we nuked the Nord Stream pipelines and why we put the sanctions on Russia.
01:57:20.000And then now Trump is taking sanctions off of Russia.
01:57:23.000Do you think the Texas oil mafia likes that, that we're relieving Russian sanctions in order to make it cheaper, i.e., less profitable for oil and gas companies?
01:57:39.000Gas stations, I mean, they want a high price of oil.
01:57:44.000They can sell their barrels for more money.
01:57:47.000There's a huge conflict between the base, the blue collar class, and oil companies.
01:57:54.000You know, at the same time, it's vital for our national interest and vital for our GDP.
01:57:59.000And I guess what I'm building towards here is what you have is this out of power, exile blob network who is trying to claw their way back to get the kind of total control they had in 2021, 2022, 2023.
01:58:15.000And they are trying to prepare for when they will be able to leverage that government power nexus because they really can't do much of anything with no control over the Justice Department to protect them if they set DC buildings on fire.
01:58:33.000They don't have a Christopher Wray like they did in 2020 who will protect Antifa or BLM.
01:58:40.000I don't think Kash Patel is going to let something, I don't think Todd Blanch is going to let that stuff slide.
01:58:47.000They don't have as deep military penetration.
01:58:50.000You had defections during the BLM riots from basically the DOD establishment.
01:58:57.000You had Mark Milley, who didn't want to go out there.
01:59:00.000You had Mark Esper, who was trying to basically soft signal support for BLM or hedge on there.
01:59:09.000So there was no support for the Insurrection Act.
01:59:46.000They're also going to run this rule of law corruption play.0.80
01:59:49.000Which is the same thing you saw in Poland.
01:59:51.000When the CIA instructed Donald Tusk to use the courts and use rule of law to stamp out populism to make sure it doesn't return, this is what they want to do with corruption probes.
02:00:02.000They want to, you know, it's going to be a raft of subpoenas and hearings, and then they're going to try to translate basically what they rip out through subpoenas and investigations into probably state level action.
02:00:16.000Like they will find some nexus to the state of New York.
02:00:21.000Well, J.B. Pritzker's already said that he would, that he's already made the kind of comment saying, you know, we're going to stand up to Trump's lawlessness without having any kind of lawless action.
02:00:32.000And to be fair to the administration, all of the things that they're saying they would push back against are completely and totally within the powers of the president should there be civil unrest, a bunch of riots, et cetera.
02:00:49.000And J.B. Pritzker's already, you know, signaling that he is going to prevent.
02:00:53.000Donald Trump or the administration from activating the National Guard or any kind of pushback against the lawlessness that they intend to foment.
02:01:04.000Well, one of the things that Data Republican turned up in this were very specific battle plans about how to organize labor unions, faith leaders, members of black churches in the inner city, and clergy groups, and business interests.
02:01:22.000In fact, in some of the drops, you can see some of the basically walkthrough presentations of the strategy to create this very synchronized.
02:01:35.000Inside outside force, where you're going to have sort of government levers, private sector levers, NGO civil society levers, and media levers all converging on very specific surface areas of attack.
02:01:50.000And I think it's going to start with corruption probes.
02:01:53.000They're going to use the scandals from the corruption probes as the basis for generating protests, for taking to the streets to protest the corruption.
02:02:02.000Then they're going to probably leverage that into like boycotts and worker strikes.
02:02:14.000And then that's going to put economic pressure because parents are going to need to stay home to take care of the kids because the schools are going to be closed.
02:02:21.000They're going to be playing to various business interests who are not getting insider deals.
02:02:28.000And this is another thing, which is a complicated aspect of the corruption.
02:02:32.000If you don't have oligarchs in bed with you, they're easily poachable by these types of things.
02:02:40.000This is one of the reasons that USAID works so hard.
02:02:43.000To poach local in country oligarchs away from the government.
02:02:49.000And they don't like the bribes that are often done, the patronage networks in Hungary, for example, with Viktor Orban, because that keeps them loyal to them versus to USAID trying to unseat them.
02:03:01.000And so, one thing I think to pay attention to is places like the Chamber of Commerce and where they're swinging in situations like this.
02:03:11.000Because the business side of it is also going to set the parameters for how much funding the NGOs.
02:03:18.000Can get, and this is also why I encourage people to be gentle on former opposition oligarchs turned friends, former enemies turned friends.
02:03:31.000Like when you see Zuckerberg tilt towards you know being you know conservative now, and who knows whether that's because he's doing leg presses and barbecues and wearing gold chains, or how who knows it's because he was pissed off at Biden, or who knows if he just you know is authentically conservative or MAGA or libertarian or whatever.
02:03:49.000But the fact is, is You don't want Zuckerberg funding these NGOs.
02:03:56.000You don't want them signing these letters of declaration of principle support for these protests that are shutting down major city intersections or the I 95 or the I 10 in California.
02:04:13.000It is very important to keep the business community in line with law and order.
02:04:18.000And that's one of the kind of unsightly aspects of tactical.
02:04:23.000Corruption, if you will, which is that I find a lot of what I see in the headlines around these insider deals unsightly, and I can't, in good conscience, support them.
02:04:35.000I also recognize that there is an effort to poach these forces to completely destabilize the country, and that will be a good tell sign.
02:04:43.000You know, just I don't know, looking at the think tank pieces around big business.
02:04:48.000Well, thank you very much for your insight on this.
02:04:50.000I think that this is probably the most important issue facing the United States right now.
02:04:55.000The idea that the left, the blob, whatever you want to call it, get back into the position that they are, because there are other elements in the Democrat Party that want to substantively change the United States.
02:05:06.000And I think that I appreciate you kind of unpacking that.
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