Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - January 21, 2024


Sunday Uncensored: Breanna Morello Members Only Podcast


Episode Stats

Length

58 minutes

Words per Minute

196.85355

Word Count

11,470

Sentence Count

988

Misogynist Sentences

11

Hate Speech Sentences

62


Summary

On this week's episode of Sunday Uncensored, the boys talk about the Iowa shooter, the Oregon Nazi suspect, and why they think racism is a thing. Plus, a new segment called "Blindspotting" where the boys try to figure out if racism is real or not.


Transcript

00:00:01.000 Welcome to our special weekend show, Sunday Uncensored.
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00:00:20.000 Now, enjoy the show.
00:00:26.000 Oh man, this story's fucking nuts!
00:00:28.000 FBI arrests Oregon trans Nazi who threatened blacks and Jews.
00:00:28.000 Look at this.
00:00:33.000 Can we just- I mean, look.
00:00:36.000 There might be a mental illness.
00:00:37.000 The Iowa shooter was trans.
00:00:40.000 Okay, NBC just talked about this shooter was non-binary.
00:00:42.000 I think there's a correlation between, like, being crazy and being trans.
00:00:49.000 I am not saying that every single trans person is this kind of crazy.
00:00:55.000 But I do think that mental disorder, DSM-5, I think that there's a strong likelihood that you have violent, racist tendencies because your brain is fractured.
00:01:04.000 I'm not saying everyone who's racist has a fractured brain.
00:01:06.000 I think most of them are wrong.
00:01:08.000 And I say most because some people, like, I'll just put it this way.
00:01:12.000 I'm not an absolutist.
00:01:13.000 The left will accuse everybody of racism, so we'll just leave the door open to a certain degree.
00:01:17.000 But I believe racism is wrong.
00:01:18.000 I don't think you're crazy if you're racist.
00:01:19.000 I think you're wrong.
00:01:20.000 But some people who are absolutely insane hold violent, psychotic views.
00:01:25.000 And with psychosis comes this.
00:01:30.000 Do whatever this is.
00:01:32.000 Comedy?
00:01:34.000 Racism is like there are different races are different people like genetically because of the way our ancestors lived we have different genetics but that doesn't make you a racist to acknowledge that.
00:01:45.000 That's why I'm saying like the left will accuse everyone of being a racist so I'm not gonna say absolutely everyone who's racist is wrong on every single thing but Yeah, IQ is inheritable, largely.
00:01:55.000 Not absolutely.
00:01:56.000 And just because someone is of a race doesn't mean they're going to be stupid.
00:01:59.000 I think that's the point.
00:02:00.000 And the media will call you a racist and white supremacist for pointing out that you think Koreans are smarter than your average European.
00:02:06.000 On average.
00:02:07.000 Which is the stupidest shit in the fucking world.
00:02:09.000 And I'm allowed to say that because I'm Korean.
00:02:11.000 And uh... I don't know if I'll get in trouble for calling myself a mixed-race supremacist.
00:02:16.000 Oh, I did.
00:02:16.000 I did.
00:02:17.000 I called myself a mixed-race supremacist as a joke.
00:02:20.000 And I got attacked by the left for it.
00:02:21.000 And I was like, I don't understand.
00:02:23.000 Like, there's nothing you can say no matter what you say.
00:02:25.000 Yeah, racial purity, what are you doing?
00:02:26.000 You're Tim Pool, they're just gonna attack you.
00:02:27.000 I made a whole video talking about hybrid vigor and jokingly referring to myself as a mixed race supremacist.
00:02:34.000 Well, the science shows that the further apart humans are in terms of their genetic lineage, the higher likelihood of, it's called hybrid vigor.
00:02:43.000 Oh, okay, right.
00:02:44.000 Yeah, like, if you selectively breed dogs, they eventually become, like, what was the royal family that were retarded?
00:02:51.000 The Habsburgs.
00:02:52.000 Yeah, the Habsburgs.
00:02:53.000 Right, everything does that.
00:02:54.000 But I was making a joke.
00:02:56.000 I was like, oh yeah, so because I'm, you know, part Asian and white, that means I'm gonna be even smarter.
00:03:01.000 And they actually claimed it was a white supremacist thing to say.
00:03:04.000 And I was like, these people are fucking retarded.
00:03:07.000 We brought that word back.
00:03:08.000 For the record, I'm vibrating the room at 174 hertz right now.
00:03:11.000 Is that why I feel like shit right now?
00:03:12.000 No, I had it off the whole show.
00:03:13.000 That's probably why you felt like shit.
00:03:14.000 No, right now.
00:03:15.000 Did you just feel it?
00:03:17.000 Yeah.
00:03:17.000 It felt like someone just punched me in the face.
00:03:19.000 Whoa.
00:03:21.000 Yeah.
00:03:22.000 Maybe it was.
00:03:22.000 You asshole.
00:03:24.000 That shit's wild.
00:03:25.000 This is one of the solfeggio frequencies.
00:03:27.000 It's going to go up.
00:03:27.000 It'll be at 230.
00:03:28.000 Like more punch.
00:03:31.000 Yeah, there's nine of them.
00:03:33.000 It felt like sulfage, like doramine, phospholipido.
00:03:35.000 It felt like I inhaled... Eight octaves.
00:03:38.000 You ever inhale wasabi?
00:03:39.000 Yeah.
00:03:41.000 Weird.
00:03:43.000 It probably killed stuff.
00:03:44.000 It was probably killing some sort of weird organism that lives in you.
00:03:48.000 Okay, bro.
00:03:48.000 I might buy one.
00:03:49.000 Yeah, these things are great.
00:03:50.000 I got some real, what is it, rife machine.
00:03:54.000 This thing's $420 for the little guy.
00:03:56.000 The big one was like $5,500.
00:03:56.000 I want to know why.
00:04:00.000 Just in the right room.
00:04:01.000 This reminds me of It's Always Sunny.
00:04:04.000 Remember when they started taking supplements?
00:04:06.000 Yeah, I remember that.
00:04:08.000 And then he's like, I've been shitting a lot.
00:04:11.000 And he's like, well that's your body flushing out the toxins.
00:04:13.000 Me on the other hand, I haven't shit for a week.
00:04:15.000 Because my body's running at peak efficiency.
00:04:17.000 Like no matter what happens, there's a reason for why it's good.
00:04:20.000 So you're like, it's probably killing things.
00:04:21.000 Yeah, it's probably killing me.
00:04:22.000 No, I doubt it.
00:04:23.000 It's making you healthier.
00:04:24.000 I don't think so.
00:04:25.000 I don't know what it's doing.
00:04:26.000 Our cold lunch came today.
00:04:28.000 Oh, good.
00:04:28.000 Is it set up yet?
00:04:29.000 No.
00:04:30.000 Dude, that thing's gonna be awesome.
00:04:32.000 You gotta do it in the morning.
00:04:33.000 Apparently, yeah.
00:04:35.000 You should have mandatory Monday cold plunges.
00:04:37.000 Everyone has to be here at 8 a.m.
00:04:39.000 on Monday.
00:04:40.000 We bought a cold plunge, but it's like, there's snow everywhere, it's the middle of winter, it's 16 degrees outside.
00:04:44.000 Just fill up the horse trough with water.
00:04:46.000 It's actually a warm plunge.
00:04:47.000 Rogan, did you see his Instagram videos?
00:04:48.000 Did you ever watch him go in his cold plunge at his house?
00:04:51.000 And he was like, it's fucking 22 degrees in Austin.
00:04:53.000 The water's 36, so.
00:04:54.000 It's gonna be warmer in his head.
00:04:57.000 He's like, my head is so fucking cold right now.
00:05:00.000 Yeah, I do want to give a shout out to the FBI, though.
00:05:02.000 For arresting- What?
00:05:04.000 Definitely.
00:05:04.000 For doing their job.
00:05:06.000 The FBI arrested a trans Nazi who was threatening to kill blacks and Jews.
00:05:10.000 Holy shit, it's about time they fucking did their job.
00:05:13.000 It's funny how they did that for that particular audience.
00:05:15.000 They're like, oh, this one can't happen.
00:05:16.000 They had to make sure they stepped in.
00:05:19.000 Seems like they didn't do it for schools, didn't do it for anything else, on the watch list and everything, but... But it's because it's a Nazi.
00:05:23.000 Right.
00:05:24.000 They were like, uh-oh, this trans person's gonna make other trans people look like Nazis, better arrest them.
00:05:27.000 What was the threat that they made, and was it real, or are they just using trans Nazi to mask that they arrested someone for being like, I hope that guy gets hurt one day.
00:05:37.000 Trans women support group.
00:05:40.000 Uh, what is this?
00:05:40.000 Supposed to call an office, wondering what lies are gonna spew to justify firing me, blah blah blah.
00:05:46.000 Oh, they're going out in a blaze of glory, preparing this.
00:05:49.000 There's a picture of guns.
00:05:50.000 Oh, shit.
00:05:50.000 Yeah, that's someone.
00:05:52.000 That's a person of interest.
00:05:53.000 They might have not been serious, that's why the FBI got involved.
00:05:57.000 If they were serious, the FBI would have let them do it.
00:05:59.000 Is crazy the right word in general for trans people?
00:06:02.000 It's a very vague term.
00:06:03.000 Would you say all trans people are crazy?
00:06:05.000 I just don't understand.
00:06:06.000 Sometimes they're like, I have a mental illness and you should respect me for it.
00:06:10.000 Mental disorder.
00:06:11.000 Disorder, right.
00:06:12.000 I felt like disorder is more offensive.
00:06:15.000 On YouTube, you get banned for saying they're mentally ill for being trans, but if you say they have a mental disorder, it's fine.
00:06:19.000 And I'm like, that sounds more offensive to me.
00:06:24.000 Illness implies you got sick, you can get over it.
00:06:27.000 It can be fixed.
00:06:28.000 Disorder sounds like your brain is... Yeah, it's out of order.
00:06:30.000 Like, imagine a bridge with damage to it.
00:06:33.000 That's illness.
00:06:34.000 You get sick, we fix it, the bridge is good again.
00:06:37.000 A bridge that was built in disorder can't be fixed, it has to be torn down and rebuilt.
00:06:40.000 Built incorrectly, yeah.
00:06:42.000 Right, so it's like, when YouTube's like, you can't say they're mentally ill, that's mean.
00:06:45.000 I'm like, okay, but that's kind of nicer.
00:06:48.000 Saying they're mentally disordered is like a permanent fuck-up in their brain that can never be solved.
00:06:52.000 I think that it is.
00:06:54.000 It's definitely mental illness.
00:06:56.000 Like, I mean, it's been classified as mental illness.
00:07:00.000 No, no, no.
00:07:01.000 It's classified as mental disorder.
00:07:02.000 Disorder?
00:07:03.000 Yes.
00:07:03.000 DSM-5 mental disorder.
00:07:05.000 That's why I'm saying like... Illness you can recover from, right?
00:07:08.000 Well, the implication is that if you're ill, typically referring to like, I got sick one day and then you got better.
00:07:13.000 People who are trans aren't being made better.
00:07:16.000 They're getting their balls chopped off.
00:07:18.000 There's a large desistance rate, people that, I don't know, 85% of people that feel trans when they're young and their teens eventually come out and they're like, ah, I was going through a phase.
00:07:29.000 That's like 85%?
00:07:30.000 So that's a huge number actually.
00:07:33.000 I think when you talk about crazy, disorder, sick, ill, whatever these terms are, it's really about How you use it.
00:07:42.000 I don't know.
00:07:42.000 Cause the word crazy is so vague.
00:07:45.000 Like who's crazy.
00:07:45.000 People told me I was crazy.
00:07:47.000 Like for the last 20 years.
00:07:48.000 Cause I would talk about consciousness.
00:07:49.000 Yeah.
00:07:50.000 But doesn't it, you say it's how you use it, but really it's how.
00:07:56.000 Someone else wants to say you've used it because the reason that we're even having this conversation about whether or not it is offensive or not is because of the possible repercussions for saying it.
00:08:06.000 So it's not about how you're using it.
00:08:09.000 It's about if someone else hears you use it and sees a benefit or an incentive for them to attack you.
00:08:17.000 I think it's because- I got a solution.
00:08:20.000 I know how to win the culture war instantly.
00:08:24.000 I should say, relatively quickly, to restore traditional values, make men men again.
00:08:29.000 Make women women again.
00:08:31.000 Get rid of all the woke garbage.
00:08:32.000 Real easy.
00:08:33.000 You know what the solution is?
00:08:34.000 What?
00:08:35.000 World War III.
00:08:37.000 I don't think that's gonna work.
00:08:38.000 After the majority of food has been wiped out, international shipping lanes have been destroyed, and cities are reduced to rubble, only those strong enough to survive will, and all the people who are wanting to do weird-ass goofy bullshit in basements and chop their balls off will not survive, won't reproduce, and won't eat.
00:08:56.000 The people who don't like working and think they're entitled to everything will starve to death and eat each other, and then give it a good hundred years, and, uh, well, there you go.
00:09:03.000 Hard times make strong men.
00:09:05.000 Right.
00:09:05.000 You needed the, uh, Black Death to get the Renaissance, they always say.
00:09:08.000 If you didn't have the Black Death, you're not gonna have that revolution in art and travel.
00:09:12.000 Yo, that's fucking crazy.
00:09:13.000 I was thinking that the people that are releasing these viruses, assuming that COVID was released from a lab or got out of a lab and now they're working on this virus X, gonna get out.
00:09:22.000 It's like these people, these psychotic people, yeah, it's like illness X or something.
00:09:26.000 They're actually like, let's let out viruses, it'll kill the weak, only the strong will survive, and then we'll have a stronger race of humans.
00:09:33.000 Let's create, here's my idea.
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00:10:37.000 Worst people that got affected by it for instance.
00:10:38.000 What if we were to like build a society somewhere where it was really difficult to get to
00:10:43.000 unless you were super good or wealthy or like capable?
00:10:46.000 Maybe we could, like, I don't know about an island.
00:10:48.000 I don't think an island would work because anyone could do it.
00:10:50.000 But what if we built it underwater?
00:10:52.000 We could build structures underwater that you could only get to if you can afford to.
00:10:57.000 And underwater.
00:10:58.000 It's a new bio-shock.
00:11:00.000 And we can give it a good biblical name.
00:11:03.000 Rapture.
00:11:04.000 Bioshock was a great game.
00:11:05.000 That was a good game, dude.
00:11:07.000 I can't believe Luke's never played it.
00:11:08.000 I can't either.
00:11:09.000 It was really, really fun.
00:11:10.000 Yeah.
00:11:10.000 I tried to play it on hard, dude, and I couldn't get through it.
00:11:13.000 It was too hard.
00:11:13.000 That game's so good.
00:11:14.000 I lost interest.
00:11:15.000 It's the plot, really, is what makes it good.
00:11:16.000 You know what sucks?
00:11:17.000 Is that Bioshock Infinite, they were like, you no longer are injecting yourself, you're drinking a soda.
00:11:23.000 Oh god.
00:11:24.000 Oh.
00:11:24.000 Yeah.
00:11:24.000 Addictive programming.
00:11:25.000 It's gross.
00:11:25.000 Dude, how awesome was it in Bioshock, you get the needle and go into your arm and then fire comes out?
00:11:31.000 Super cool.
00:11:32.000 For those that don't know Bioshock, it's basically someone read Atlas Shrugged and then was like, how can I make a video game like this?
00:11:38.000 And so the main villain, like the final boss, is literally Atlas.
00:11:45.000 But I guess Galt's Gulch is what we want to make, right?
00:11:48.000 Where we build a holographic emitter to hide us in the woods and all the wealthy, successful, smart people can go live free from the retarded invalids.
00:11:57.000 I called a guy an invalid on Twitter and Twitter yelled at me.
00:12:00.000 An invalid, huh?
00:12:03.000 So, Vivek Ramaswamy drops out, endorses Trump.
00:12:07.000 Ashley St.
00:12:08.000 Clair quote tweet saying like, this is amazing, Vivek Ramaswamy has announced that he is dropping out, and then immediately endorses Donald Trump and will be joining him on the campaign trail.
00:12:17.000 And so I quote tweeted that saying like, fuck yeah, let's go.
00:12:20.000 And so this guy says, you were just sucking his dick like five minutes ago, because he didn't read the tweet.
00:12:25.000 He thought I was, the first tweet was Vivek Ramaswamy drops out.
00:12:28.000 If you don't actually read the tweet, you don't know the context.
00:12:30.000 So he thought I was cheering him dropping out.
00:12:32.000 And then I said something like, you fucking, I was like, LOL, you fucking invalid.
00:12:37.000 Can you even read WTF?
00:12:39.000 And then Twitter, this thing popped up and it was like, people don't like it when you say these things.
00:12:43.000 I was like, fuck you.
00:12:44.000 That's why I said it.
00:12:45.000 That's why I said it, you fucking invalid.
00:12:49.000 It's the word invalid.
00:12:50.000 I love that.
00:12:51.000 I know!
00:12:51.000 And it literally means the person is invalid.
00:12:54.000 So great.
00:12:55.000 Yeah, you know, I can say whatever.
00:12:56.000 Fuck you, you know?
00:12:57.000 Elon Musk has given us... People need to understand this, man.
00:13:01.000 What Elon Musk did actually was massively impactful.
00:13:03.000 It's huge.
00:13:05.000 Yeah, like saying retard again.
00:13:07.000 Well, I mean, that's like, you know, just like the icing on the cake.
00:13:10.000 But like the fact that there are so many people that get wrapped up with like, oh, I can't say this particular word.
00:13:18.000 There's a lot of people that get wrapped up when it comes to censorship about I said this and I got censored for saying this word and blah, blah, blah.
00:13:25.000 And whereas I understand that people get frustrated and that if you're going to be a pure free speech platform, you can't censor words.
00:13:33.000 But the actual important thing about the freedom of speech is to not censor ideas.
00:13:39.000 So you can articulate ideas in a vulgar way, or you can articulate the same idea in a non-confrontational, non-antagonistic way.
00:13:49.000 And if you're going to articulate ideas that are not antagonistic, And you get banned for that that's a problem and that's what old Twitter was doing with under you know new Twitter with with Musk or under X you know it's like you can talk about anything and you don't get the ban just for talking about it just so long as you're not you know insulting people or you're not
00:14:11.000 Trying to be overly vulgar or you know attack me.
00:14:15.000 I want to believe that and I do and in some ways but the n-word I'm not even gonna say the word right now on the after show where nothing's gonna get banned because if it gets clipped and I that's Until we as a species can override that fear of that sound that that word makes I feel like we're doomed It's a species.
00:14:31.000 We need to overcome this bullshit.
00:14:33.000 We've had people use the n-word on IRL and we've not been banned for it No, it's been used in a variety of contests even contexts even spoken by a white man And there's been no negative impact.
00:14:43.000 Yeah, because as long as you're not, it's like you're saying the way you're using the words, as long as you're not insulting someone with the term, it's, it's valid to, to talk about the term.
00:14:52.000 That's, that's, that's not really, that's like missing the point of my, my comment.
00:14:57.000 Cause the, it, it is still a vulgarity, like the N word, you know, if you're, it is considered a vulgarity by most people, unless you're a black person rapping, you know?
00:15:08.000 Um, so, Nuclear?
00:15:11.000 That was Trump, right?
00:15:13.000 You're not supposed to say that!
00:15:14.000 We don't say the n-word!
00:15:15.000 Nuclear.
00:15:15.000 And everyone laughed.
00:15:16.000 Nuclear.
00:15:17.000 Nuclear.
00:15:18.000 But the thing is, like, now it's like that being a vulgar word, yeah, that might cause problems.
00:15:25.000 But it doesn't cause problems for everybody.
00:15:26.000 You're only going to get pushback.
00:15:28.000 You're not going to get pushback from the platform.
00:15:29.000 You're going to get pushback from other people that said, oh, you know, you're too white to be saying that.
00:15:33.000 Yeah, I'm going to make this clear for the Discord right now, too, because people were arguing about this.
00:15:38.000 Saying things that they have, like it's free speech, they have a right to use vulgarities and slurs.
00:15:43.000 And I'm like, dude, we don't own Discord.
00:15:45.000 So the reason we don't allow it is because I'm not gonna let someone, one person, wipe out what thousands of people are trying to build because we're operating on Discord right now.
00:15:56.000 And I know people have mentioned alternatives that we can use, and we're working on that.
00:15:59.000 But it's like, dude, the Discord server is a place to build culture, expand ideas, and address issues, not to just be vulgar because you want to be.
00:16:09.000 And we have limitations.
00:16:11.000 We're doing the best we can.
00:16:12.000 But I don't see a reason to cede this ground and lose the Discord server because people just feel like they should have a free speech right to say it.
00:16:19.000 Because it's, especially when it's about vulgarity, you're not, it's not about an idea or a controversial idea or anything.
00:16:26.000 And I, I feel like people get so wrapped up in the, I want to be able to be vulgar whenever I want, that they miss the actual important, valuable thing about the protection of the freedom of speech, which is the ability to exchange controversial ideas.
00:16:44.000 So the first Discord server I launched, I was like, it's a moderately free speech place, say whatever you want so long as it's within the context of the news we're discussing.
00:16:53.000 And all that happened was a bunch of people came in and started screaming Jews non-stop.
00:16:56.000 So I just deleted the whole thing.
00:16:57.000 And I was like, people got really mad, like, why did you get rid of the Discord server?
00:17:00.000 And I was like, Because the point was to be like, hey, here's the big news.
00:17:06.000 So we as a community could address these issues.
00:17:08.000 And people were just like, I want to talk about Jews all day.
00:17:10.000 And I was like, who the fuck are these people coming in and talking about this?
00:17:13.000 And what happened was it was like four people.
00:17:15.000 I'll be honest.
00:17:16.000 I'd like to talk about Jews a lot.
00:17:18.000 Right.
00:17:19.000 And so what happens is it's an obsession where there would be like four people out of a thousand that no matter what would happen, would start posting about Jews and causing problems.
00:17:29.000 And I'm just like, I can't do this.
00:17:31.000 The people that are obsessed about Israel and stuff... I don't know if you guys noticed how it works.
00:17:37.000 This is what would happen.
00:17:39.000 I would be talking about Donald Trump passing a bill and it would be related to like, you know, like school lunches or something.
00:17:46.000 And then someone would be in this court being like, here's a big story.
00:17:49.000 Donald Trump just signed the school lunches bill.
00:17:50.000 It's going to lower costs for everybody.
00:17:52.000 Woo, Trump, he's great.
00:17:53.000 And then someone else would be like, Yeah, man, Trump's doing a really good job bringing down the cost of food for everybody.
00:17:59.000 I think it's going to generate a lot of support for him.
00:18:01.000 Then someone else would go, yeah, I think lunch is really, really important because a lot of people don't eat enough food and getting kids proper nutrition matters a lot.
00:18:08.000 Yeah, man, I once went on a trip and I skipped lunch and it was really bad.
00:18:13.000 I was foggy and yeah, me too.
00:18:14.000 I remember I went on a trip to Israel once and I didn't have a lot of food.
00:18:18.000 Yeah, you know the thing about Jews?
00:18:21.000 My favorite though was when someone, we're talking about news, and then someone was like, oh man, it's really crazy what this bank said.
00:18:28.000 And then someone else was like, oh man, I don't even want to think about this.
00:18:30.000 I'm going to order pizza.
00:18:31.000 And then right away someone went, I once had pizza in Israel.
00:18:33.000 And the next person went, yeah, but Jews do this.
00:18:36.000 And I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with you people?
00:18:39.000 It was percolating.
00:18:40.000 They were doing it on purpose, coming in and intentionally trying to get us banned by doing this shit.
00:18:45.000 What would happen is the word Zionism was getting downranked and arguably banned off certain networks 15, 10 years ago.
00:18:52.000 And it was called conspiracy theorist, if you use that word.
00:18:56.000 And then I remember stuff getting downranked.
00:18:59.000 And then so it was under the surface, people were like, what the fuck?
00:19:02.000 I want to criticize Zionism.
00:19:04.000 What the fuck?
00:19:05.000 So then they started doing it in these weird chats and like forcing it in.
00:19:08.000 And it's like, this isn't the place.
00:19:09.000 But now since this October 7th attack, It's become, like, mainstream talking points.
00:19:15.000 People are talking about Zionism almost every day on the radio and on the news.
00:19:18.000 I find it refreshing, personally.
00:19:20.000 Someone asked, why would talking about Jews get you banned?
00:19:22.000 First, it's not about talking about Jews.
00:19:24.000 It's about the fact the point of the Discord was to talk about news and culture, and all that happened was four people kept spamming Jew over and over and over again, so it didn't work anymore.
00:19:32.000 And then I'd be like, okay, I'm gonna ban you if you keep doing this.
00:19:35.000 And they would be like, oh my God, Tim's censoring us.
00:19:37.000 I'd be like, yes, because all you do is say Jew nonstop, 24 seven.
00:19:40.000 And we're trying to talk about foreign policy in like China and the cost of food and shit like this.
00:19:46.000 The other issue as to why you get banned is because these people are posting anti-Semitic shit and that will get you banned.
00:19:52.000 And free speech doesn't mean you can say as much as you want all the time.
00:19:55.000 Like if you walk into a room where there's a thousand, a hundred people talking and you start screaming, You're gonna get kicked out.
00:20:01.000 You're gonna get censored because you're disrupting people's ability to speak freely.
00:20:05.000 So there's, you know- Dude, I- I- I cannot stand- Just because you can doesn't mean you should.
00:20:09.000 Israel Derangement Syndrome, dude.
00:20:12.000 Israel matters.
00:20:13.000 It's in the news.
00:20:14.000 The Houthis are doing a bunch of shit because of the Israel- Israel-Palestine conflict.
00:20:18.000 But some people just, like, you're hanging out with them, and they're like, oh, did you, uh, watch the- the UFC fight?
00:20:24.000 The 296?
00:20:25.000 It was really crazy.
00:20:25.000 I'm like, yeah, that was really crazy.
00:20:27.000 Yeah, you know, that's wild.
00:20:29.000 What else is going on in the news?
00:20:30.000 Oh, Israel.
00:20:31.000 Then the guy starts bashing his face on the wall over and over again.
00:20:34.000 There's blood everywhere and I'm like... I'm going through right now in my mentions.
00:20:38.000 What are you going through?
00:20:39.000 Just people that don't like Israel.
00:20:41.000 It's, I don't like the conquistadors.
00:20:45.000 I get kind of turned off by conquest and like taking over.
00:20:48.000 And this whole, the way the British set up Israel is like, you know, we are in the empire.
00:20:53.000 And that's like a hard cognitive dissonant.
00:20:56.000 What about it?
00:20:57.000 What do you mean, what about it?
00:20:58.000 What about it?
00:20:58.000 Aren't you concerned about how these countries have been set up by foreign powers?
00:21:01.000 No, I'd love to talk about Sudan.
00:21:02.000 Let's talk about it.
00:21:02.000 This is my problem!
00:21:03.000 I can't stand the selective Jew-hating, and they say it's not anti-Semitic, and I'm like, I understand that not everybody critical of Israel hates Jews.
00:21:12.000 I'm saying there's a large sect of people that just hate Jews, and they don't know or care about anything else, and they use arguments of colonialism specifically to talk only about Israel.
00:21:20.000 I'm like, my guy, please criticize Israel all day and night.
00:21:24.000 Criticize Israel bombing civilian areas.
00:21:26.000 Criticize their military tactics.
00:21:27.000 Please do it, and do it a lot.
00:21:29.000 But when you ignore every other country that does this, that the U.S.
00:21:33.000 has supported, that empire has built, and when I ask you about it, you say, I don't know, you are full of shit.
00:21:40.000 That's just it.
00:21:40.000 I guess, but not everyone knows, but the Israel thing is a big deal.
00:21:43.000 It's the British Empire's, like, foothold in the Middle East.
00:21:46.000 I actually don't think so.
00:21:48.000 I mean, I think it's a big deal, but relative to everything else, not really.
00:21:51.000 It's the reason of most of global conflict is because Britain's... No.
00:21:55.000 No, it actually isn't.
00:21:57.000 And the amount of Uighur Muslims being tortured and murdered right now, and let's just talk about India and Pakistan.
00:22:02.000 Let's talk about Iran and Pakistan.
00:22:04.000 Those are all on the border of Israel, dude.
00:22:06.000 All on the border of the American military.
00:22:08.000 Not literally, but Pakistan, and Iraq, and Iran, and Syria.
00:22:13.000 That China shit's fucked up, no doubt.
00:22:15.000 And the obsession over Israel, which is this tiny nation of nuclear power.
00:22:22.000 India's a nuclear power, China's a nuclear power.
00:22:24.000 And there's several million people.
00:22:25.000 They're not tiny, though.
00:22:28.000 So this is the thing about foreign policy.
00:22:30.000 You want to talk about not funding Israel?
00:22:31.000 Agreed.
00:22:32.000 Not funding war and conflict in any of these countries.
00:22:34.000 Anti-intervention 100%.
00:22:36.000 But people are obsessed with Israel, and it's because there is Israel Derangement Syndrome.
00:22:42.000 And then what happens is someone says, Israel's really important, why aren't people talking about Israel?
00:22:45.000 And I'm like, my guy, there are so many things going on in the world that are larger, more funded, more dangerous, more insane than just Israel, and you don't know anything about it.
00:22:54.000 Makes me wonder about what your motivations are.
00:22:56.000 Well, I think something you said earlier about Jew-hating, I think the conflation of Israel and Judaism is a big psyop.
00:23:02.000 Like, it's a defense mechanism that people in the Israeli bureaucracy will use to protect their vicious actions.
00:23:08.000 But, like, taking a little tiny piece of sliver of land and making them a nuclear power was fully intended by the British.
00:23:14.000 They did that on purpose.
00:23:15.000 The British didn't give them nuclear weapons.
00:23:18.000 They funded the creation of the state, is what I'm saying.
00:23:20.000 That was long before they had nuclear weapons, though.
00:23:23.000 What's your issue with...
00:23:27.000 I don't know, the Koreas.
00:23:28.000 What about it?
00:23:29.000 What do you mean?
00:23:29.000 What aspect of it?
00:23:31.000 That the U.S.
00:23:32.000 created the South Korean state.
00:23:34.000 And they have THAAD missiles, and they've got a militarized border with landmines everywhere.
00:23:39.000 Are we going to talk about Korea now?
00:23:43.000 What aspect?
00:23:43.000 I'd be happy to.
00:23:45.000 But why don't you care?
00:23:47.000 Well, I do care about Korea.
00:23:48.000 What about it?
00:23:49.000 Why don't you talk about it in the same way we talk about Israel?
00:23:51.000 Because Israel's a nuclear power.
00:23:54.000 It's like a new British colony that turned into a nuclear power.
00:23:57.000 It's crazy, like, intense.
00:24:00.000 There are multiple other countries that are nuclear powers.
00:24:02.000 Why is it that it's a problem that Israel has nuclear weapons?
00:24:05.000 Because it's a tiny piece of land in South Africa, another British colony.
00:24:08.000 That's not an actual reason, though.
00:24:10.000 Or Lichtenstein.
00:24:11.000 You're like, oh, it's too small?
00:24:12.000 It's purely funded by the liberal economic order.
00:24:15.000 They just pump money and weapons into that place.
00:24:18.000 This is every country.
00:24:20.000 IMF funding for all of these South American and African nations?
00:24:24.000 Ian, why is Israel bad though?
00:24:27.000 I didn't say it's bad.
00:24:28.000 But that's the tone that you're coming across, that it's bad that Israel has nuclear weapons.
00:24:33.000 I don't like that we invaded Iraq.
00:24:35.000 But yeah, but you're talking about Iraq, not Israel.
00:24:37.000 It's one and the same.
00:24:38.000 The Israel lobby and the American military industrial complex are like one big unit.
00:24:41.000 I talked to Scott Horton about this for like an hour and a half, man.
00:24:45.000 The guy knows everything about this stuff.
00:24:46.000 Yeah, but Scott Horton has a perspective, and Scott Horton has a narrative that he's telling, and this isn't a nod to him, but you can't just be like, everything Scott says is perfect and right.
00:24:58.000 Yeah, that's hyperbolic.
00:25:00.000 But Scott's very knowledgeable on it, and I was like, what is it, tail wagging the dog?
00:25:03.000 Is the American military-industrial complex forcing Israel policy, or is the Israeli policy what's moving?
00:25:09.000 Let's talk about Ethiopia.
00:25:13.000 I don't know much about Ethiopia.
00:25:14.000 This is the problem I have, because I've done this bit right here before.
00:25:18.000 Do you know the largest, what country do you believe, I'm going to hide this actually, receives the most foreign funding, the most military weapons and power, and has the most amount of death?
00:25:31.000 I don't know.
00:25:33.000 Who?
00:25:34.000 Probably who our enemy will be in 20 years, but who is it?
00:25:37.000 I'm surprised that you don't actually know, considering your concern over Israel.
00:25:40.000 I don't know.
00:25:41.000 What's my favorite pizza topic?
00:25:42.000 Is it Ukraine?
00:25:42.000 It's Ukraine.
00:25:43.000 Ukraine receives substantially more money, and this is really obvious.
00:25:47.000 Almost 200 billion.
00:25:49.000 So far.
00:25:50.000 And more people have died, and are dying, and there's no reason for us to be involved at all.
00:25:54.000 And it is a colony of the liberal economic order, more so than Israel.
00:25:58.000 We have basically conquered this nation.
00:25:59.000 We ousted President Yanukovych.
00:26:02.000 The West is trying to subvert Ukraine, and it's like, but Israel.
00:26:05.000 I don't give a fuck.
00:26:06.000 Okay, Israel matters.
00:26:08.000 It's an Internet.
00:26:08.000 It is part of all of this stuff.
00:26:11.000 But my point is, there are a bunch of countries.
00:26:13.000 What's going on in Ethiopia?
00:26:14.000 Why is the U.S.
00:26:15.000 funded Ethiopia to nearly the same degree as Israel?
00:26:21.000 You're asking me on my face.
00:26:22.000 It's like I'm talking about a book and you're like, well, what about all these other books?
00:26:24.000 Like, okay, we can talk about any one of these books if you want to.
00:26:27.000 And you are right.
00:26:28.000 And it's quite literally my point.
00:26:29.000 That there, for some reason, people are like, Israel!
00:26:32.000 And I'm like, okay.
00:26:33.000 It's not for some vague, nonsensical reason.
00:26:36.000 You know, the British formed that colony.
00:26:37.000 What about Ukraine?
00:26:40.000 What about any of these other countries?
00:26:41.000 There's lots of other countries too we can talk about, but the Israel formation is a big fucking deal on the global stage right now.
00:26:46.000 Why?
00:26:47.000 After World War I, Arthur Balfour... Saying whataboutism is a deflection of quite literally my point is there is an obsession with Israel that is not explained because there are other identical or worse conflicts and my question is why only this?
00:27:04.000 It is a specific question on the issue of what Israel does and I am wondering why it is.
00:27:08.000 The focus is on it and not other countries and they say that's whataboutism.
00:27:11.000 No, I'm asking for a literal answer on a specific issue.
00:27:14.000 Okay.
00:27:15.000 What about the region matters more than other regions functioning the exact same way you described?
00:27:19.000 It's not just about the region, it's also about the bureaucracy.
00:27:21.000 It's a nuclear-armed state that was formed in like 19... 20... I don't know, by the British setting up the British Mandate for Palestine there.
00:27:30.000 Then they seized it from the Arabs, and then with the Balfour Declaration created, you know, what would soon, 30 years later, become the Israeli state.
00:27:37.000 And then they armed it with nuclear weapons, and then they use it like...
00:27:41.000 It's a big deal.
00:27:42.000 And then they invade all around it and then... Why?
00:27:45.000 Because they want the Suez Canal.
00:27:46.000 No, no, no.
00:27:47.000 Why is it a big deal?
00:27:49.000 Because it's a nuclear-powered aggressor state.
00:27:52.000 Who's it aggressing against?
00:27:54.000 It's all the land around it over the last 70 years.
00:27:56.000 Israel's been invaded by its neighbors.
00:27:59.000 Israel has not invaded anyone else.
00:28:01.000 It was an invasion.
00:28:02.000 Israel was an invasion to start.
00:28:03.000 It was created as an invasive system.
00:28:06.000 They took it from the Arabs and put a country there.
00:28:09.000 That's actually not what Scott Horton said.
00:28:11.000 Oh, you're right, you're right.
00:28:12.000 The Muslims invaded ancient Judea and forced by threat of death.
00:28:16.000 Yeah, and the ancient Jews invaded Canaan, man.
00:28:18.000 It used to be before Israel.
00:28:20.000 I'm talking about what Scott Horton said.
00:28:22.000 This is the obsession I'm talking about.
00:28:24.000 You don't know anything about the region.
00:28:25.000 Do you know what the capital of Russia was in like 1000 A.D., like a thousand years ago?
00:28:32.000 Yeah, it was St.
00:28:36.000 Petersburg?
00:28:36.000 No, no, that's wrong.
00:28:38.000 Kiev?
00:28:39.000 It was Kiev.
00:28:40.000 Yeah, Rus.
00:28:41.000 They were Kiev and Rus in the beginning.
00:28:42.000 I don't understand why you're not so passionate about the Eastern European region and the exact same conflict.
00:28:47.000 Because I live in the United States and I'm part of the British Empire whether I want to be or not.
00:28:51.000 And we've funded Ukraine substantially more than Israel.
00:28:53.000 In the last 10 years, Ukraine is a big deal, yeah.
00:28:55.000 You consider the United States still a part of the British Empire?
00:28:57.000 The liberal economic order, I kind of consider this the amalgam.
00:28:59.000 It's like the evolution of the British Empire is now the liberal economic order.
00:29:03.000 Okay.
00:29:03.000 Afghanistan.
00:29:05.000 What about Afghanistan?
00:29:06.000 It's horrific what we did there the last 20 years.
00:29:07.000 What's going on in Afghanistan is worse than what's going on in Israel.
00:29:10.000 Because that was an active invasion in our lifetime that's been funded with more death and more funding, more money than we've seen through Israel.
00:29:18.000 It's all connected, man.
00:29:20.000 So my question is literal.
00:29:23.000 It's not, what about us?
00:29:24.000 It's, what about Israel is deserving of you knowing the history, going back thousands of years, but not Afghanistan?
00:29:30.000 Yeah, that's what I keep saying.
00:29:35.000 You recited some things, but none of them are a reason as to why you don't like, or why you have strong feelings about Israel.
00:29:44.000 What is your question exactly?
00:29:46.000 So you're like, I'm saying, why do you have such strong feelings about Israel?
00:29:51.000 The liberal economic order invaded and deposed, removed the governments of Iraq and Afghanistan in our lifetime, spending substantially more money in these countries and killing substantially more people.
00:30:01.000 I think it would make sense to me if you were like, the history of the Afghanistan region going back a thousand years was that the people who were there were conquered.
00:30:08.000 Now the U.S.
00:30:08.000 is, but you don't know anything about it.
00:30:10.000 But Israel, for some reason you do.
00:30:11.000 Despite the fact that Israel, the conflict is substantially lighter than Afghanistan and Iraq was in our lifetime, and even right now.
00:30:19.000 I appreciate though, you are concerned about Joe Biden's withdrawal from the region.
00:30:24.000 But it would make more sense, your argument, if you knew about the history of Iraq, for instance.
00:30:27.000 Well, what do you want to know about it?
00:30:28.000 It used to be the Assyrian Empire, way long ago.
00:30:32.000 My point is, I do not believe the argument that I, when someone says, I care about Israel because the liberal economic order colonized it and weaponized it, blah blah blah, and I'm like, okay, well, Iraq would be worse then, right?
00:30:44.000 Worse than what?
00:30:45.000 What do you mean?
00:30:45.000 Iraq is a substantially more serious issue pertaining to the idea of a liberal economic order invading a country, removing its government, setting it up as a colony, killing hundreds of thousands if not millions of people in the process, but you don't know anything about it.
00:30:58.000 About what?
00:31:00.000 The history of the region, who its leaders are.
00:31:03.000 What was the plan of the liberal economic order in Iraq?
00:31:06.000 Why did they do it?
00:31:07.000 What's going on right now?
00:31:08.000 Because something is currently going on right now.
00:31:10.000 How many troops are there?
00:31:11.000 How many weapons have been delivered?
00:31:12.000 Who's currently in charge?
00:31:14.000 Not as much as I thought, apparently.
00:31:16.000 I thought that we were using it as a puppet state, but apparently it didn't go so well there.
00:31:19.000 My point is that you're- it's not that you're not allowed to care about these things, it's that whenever I ask people a basic question, they give a fake answer.
00:31:26.000 Well, when I talk about Israel, don't talk about Ukraine.
00:31:29.000 Like, just focus on Israel with me for like 20 minutes.
00:31:31.000 So, that's my point.
00:31:33.000 This is my point.
00:31:34.000 Someone will be like, I'm concerned about Israel.
00:31:35.000 I'll say, oh wow, that's really interesting.
00:31:36.000 And they'll say, Israel does bad things.
00:31:37.000 I'm like, oh wow, that's really interesting.
00:31:39.000 And then they'll say, I'm critical of the Israel government for this reason.
00:31:41.000 I say, oh wow, that's really interesting.
00:31:43.000 And then I'll say, what do you think about Ukraine?
00:31:44.000 I don't know anything about it.
00:31:45.000 And then I'll say, why don't you know anything about Ukraine?
00:31:48.000 What's your interest in Israel?
00:31:49.000 And they'll say, Israel is, as you mentioned, liberal economic order.
00:31:52.000 And then my response is, of course, they did this in Afghanistan, Iraq.
00:31:58.000 Libya, Syria, Ukraine, the list goes on.
00:32:02.000 And I don't know anything about those places.
00:32:03.000 What do you mean they did this?
00:32:05.000 What do you mean by that?
00:32:06.000 They did this in Ukraine, Iran?
00:32:08.000 Conquering, taking over, colonizing, and weaponizing.
00:32:10.000 No, no, no.
00:32:10.000 They did not create a new country in any of those places.
00:32:12.000 They're using them as puppet states, some of them.
00:32:14.000 But Israel was a... They legitimately created a new country there.
00:32:18.000 That's unheard of.
00:32:19.000 It doesn't happen that often.
00:32:20.000 No, it's not.
00:32:20.000 That happens all the time.
00:32:21.000 But this is a semantic argument.
00:32:22.000 That's a vague... That happens all the time.
00:32:23.000 It's a semantic argument.
00:32:24.000 That's a vague hyperbole.
00:32:25.000 It doesn't happen a lot of times.
00:32:26.000 It's a semantic argument.
00:32:27.000 What is?
00:32:27.000 You're talking about a hundred plus years ago, there was mandatory Palestine, and people moved there, and then there was a conflict from neighboring countries, it became Israel, and it's funded by the international liberal economic order.
00:32:42.000 Just because the U.S.
00:32:43.000 said, hey guys, if we change the name of Afghanistan, people are going to lose their shit and bomb us.
00:32:47.000 Let's just pretend like it's the same place.
00:32:49.000 Yo, they removed the governments of these countries and then claim it's the same country.
00:32:53.000 That's bullshit.
00:32:54.000 The president of Ukraine was removed in a U.S.A.
00:32:59.000 style western psyops coup.
00:33:02.000 Then you have Iraq and Afghanistan, which was literal U.S.
00:33:05.000 invasion and conquering of a place for decades, which resulted in substantially more civilian death.
00:33:10.000 My point is, there is an irrational obsession with Israel, and the explanations ignore every other country involved in the exact same complication.
00:33:18.000 My question then becomes, not of you, but of anyone else, why is it that people in general Get roped into the Israel argument, but ignore the greater military-industrial complex argument, which is the bigger picture.
00:33:29.000 It's something specifically about Israel for some reason I don't understand.
00:33:32.000 I think there's a lot of people feel like they're not allowed to talk about it, so they do it with fervor, and that's a mistake.
00:33:39.000 Like, if it's like, oh, I can't do it, well then I'm gonna do it twice as hard.
00:33:41.000 Let's go to callers.
00:33:43.000 Alrighty, I was gonna jump in there, but I wasn't very sure how to do it.
00:33:47.000 Anyways, Bertard, Serge, Dil, O, Wayfair, I think.
00:33:53.000 Is that English?
00:33:54.000 I have no idea.
00:33:55.000 They got their own language on Discord.
00:33:56.000 I'm cult maxing, give me a break.
00:33:59.000 Cult maxing, I love it.
00:34:01.000 You have to do that to survive the Discord, trust me.
00:34:02.000 You do, indeed.
00:34:03.000 No, you don't actually.
00:34:05.000 But yeah, guys, thanks for taking my call.
00:34:07.000 So I've called in a couple times at this point about the whole, I want to write software to help the culture and information war thing.
00:34:17.000 And I came to realize that, honestly, this very show is a goldmine of potential project ideas.
00:34:23.000 Anytime you say something like, you know, if people really wanted to stand up and make a difference, they would X, Y, and Z, like suing companies for DEI discrimination, Gathering evidence and bugging sheriffs or DAs or AGs to press charges, etc.
00:34:39.000 If you had a platform to bring that together and catalyze it, people might actually be able to do that.
00:34:46.000 Along those lines, my spoiler question tonight is about Billboard.com.
00:34:52.000 On the show that ironically got Epstein'd, you mentioned that Billboard.com has changed their metrics such that they no longer report a lot of sales except the ones through big tech platforms.
00:35:07.000 But they get their information directly from Luminate.
00:35:09.000 So if somebody were to make a Billboard.com clone using Luminate's data with the old metrics, how impactful do you think that would be?
00:35:17.000 If you didn't have to build it, how much would you like to see that become a reality?
00:35:20.000 We actually talked about doing that.
00:35:21.000 So, the issue is that Luminate data shows all the sales and everything.
00:35:26.000 Billboard is just a magazine.
00:35:28.000 But Billboard is the institution that everyone wants to get recognition from.
00:35:32.000 So, we actually are signing up.
00:35:34.000 I believe we signed up with Luminate.
00:35:36.000 So we now have all that data.
00:35:37.000 And we were thinking to ourselves, why don't we just publish it?
00:35:41.000 Like, there you go.
00:35:43.000 Luminate says, here's how many sales you have.
00:35:44.000 Billboard goes, we don't care.
00:35:46.000 We'll just make our own charts.
00:35:48.000 So, that's there.
00:35:51.000 We could.
00:35:53.000 It's Illuminate 700 bucks a month.
00:35:55.000 Not even that much in terms of a business getting access to the data of all music everywhere.
00:36:00.000 The issue for Billboard, and I can respect this to a certain degree, is part of it's political.
00:36:05.000 Fuck that.
00:36:06.000 I don't agree with that.
00:36:07.000 But part of it is also people are constantly trying to find ways to scam the data.
00:36:11.000 So let's say you, a fan, will buy a song on iTunes, then Amazon, and then your website.
00:36:18.000 One person gets you three sales.
00:36:21.000 And of course they're all playing this game.
00:36:23.000 So you could set up 50 websites for direct sales, one person could buy the song 50 times through each of the different websites, and then claim 50 sales.
00:36:33.000 Part of the reason why I think Billboard's like, we don't count this shit anymore because people are cheating.
00:36:37.000 I think it's bullshit, however.
00:36:39.000 I think a lot of it, because I've talked to Tom MacDonald about it, absolutely is political because they've actually eliminated certain charts for no reason.
00:36:48.000 It's like, if you had the chart, why get rid of it?
00:36:49.000 Well, Tom MacDonald was trending, so we don't want that to happen.
00:36:53.000 But yeah, if you want to build it, build it.
00:36:55.000 We're thinking about it.
00:36:57.000 Cool, yeah, I mean Surge was on the Discord the other day and we were talking about how you guys had thought about that and how cool it would be.
00:37:03.000 So yeah, that's cool.
00:37:06.000 Glad that that's just to kind of get some clarity on what kind of things might be desired.
00:37:11.000 That's fantastic.
00:37:12.000 If I could just ask one tiny follow-up question.
00:37:16.000 If someone else were to build it and maintain it, right, do all the coding work on, like, and keep it running in that capacity, is this something that you think Either Timcast or Trash House Records or even Based Records.
00:37:32.000 Is that something that the alt music industry might want to support?
00:37:40.000 Like the hosting and the data?
00:37:42.000 It's time for a parallel economy music system.
00:37:46.000 So yeah, it depends on what the rules of Luminate are.
00:37:50.000 I'm pretty sure that Luminate has no rules pertaining to the charting system because you don't publish the data, you just rank them.
00:37:57.000 I don't think they would give a shit about our editorial approach to it.
00:38:00.000 So you could even automate it.
00:38:02.000 You could automate a system likely through Luminate's API that doesn't expose their data because they're selling their data.
00:38:06.000 They don't want that being given away, but you could at least say 1, 2, 3, 4, 5.
00:38:11.000 We could create a bunch of charts.
00:38:11.000 Right, you're just doing whatever aggregation.
00:38:13.000 Yeah, to be fair, what Billboard does, their charts, they have to hire people to do.
00:38:18.000 So one of the reasons they make it rid of charts is because they don't want to hire people to do it.
00:38:21.000 I can track through Illuminate, name a band.
00:38:23.000 Someone has to go in and search all of those bands and then basically generate the list of those bands.
00:38:31.000 There's analytical work that has to go into it, it's not so easy to do.
00:38:35.000 Oh yeah, for sure.
00:38:37.000 With a little effort you could automate it, like you say.
00:38:40.000 So yeah guys, that's fantastic.
00:38:42.000 Thank you so much.
00:38:44.000 I don't really have anything else to shout out.
00:38:46.000 Well besides, if you're interested in working on projects like this, hit me up on the Discord whenever.
00:38:53.000 I love talking about this.
00:38:55.000 Sweet.
00:38:55.000 Awesome, man.
00:38:56.000 Oh, yeah.
00:38:56.000 Appreciate it, man.
00:38:57.000 I wish you the best with it.
00:38:58.000 It's always good to... It's always hard to find ideas, but when you find a good one, it's nice and, uh, what's the word, rewarding when you finish it.
00:39:03.000 So, best of luck.
00:39:05.000 100%.
00:39:06.000 All right.
00:39:07.000 Dave, the LEGO guy, you are live.
00:39:10.000 How are you?
00:39:10.000 Yes.
00:39:13.000 Uh, first time calling in.
00:39:15.000 Uh, I've been watching IRL since the early, early days.
00:39:18.000 So, it's nice to finally get in here.
00:39:20.000 Oh, yeah.
00:39:21.000 Welcome, man.
00:39:22.000 All right.
00:39:24.000 So, my, um, My question is for specifically Phil, since he responded to the question mostly, but also for them.
00:39:35.000 What are the arguments against nationalizing the Lockheed Martin and all that stuff, the weapons manufacturers?
00:39:43.000 Why would nationalizing those things be a bad thing?
00:39:47.000 They should be nationalized.
00:39:49.000 Right now.
00:39:51.000 Well, Phil earlier, he said no to nationalizing.
00:39:56.000 Phil, do you want me to tell you why they should be nationalized?
00:39:58.000 Sure.
00:39:59.000 Because government bureaucracies fail, government-run businesses fail, and if the government nationalized the weapons manufacturers, they would crumble under the weight of their incompetence.
00:40:08.000 Yeah, maybe, maybe.
00:40:11.000 The investors would revolt, money would be lost, warmongers would lose all of their money when it gets shut down by the government, basically takes it over.
00:40:18.000 Yeah, I mean, I, yeah, I just, there's so many weapons manufacturers that are international, it would be something.
00:40:26.000 Right, and there are small weapons manufacturers too.
00:40:29.000 Lockheed Martin, so if we're talking about just the big ones, shut them all down, fuck them.
00:40:34.000 But then there are like, there are small companies that make guns, you know what I mean?
00:40:37.000 But the reality is you don't want to do it because you don't want to centralize that kind of power with the government.
00:40:42.000 There's got to be a barrier.
00:40:43.000 It's not perfect.
00:40:44.000 Our system is totally fucked, by the way, but I don't know.
00:40:46.000 We just want to do less nationalization.
00:40:48.000 Mm-hmm.
00:40:50.000 Okay, so follow-up question.
00:40:52.000 What about, so with, like, the weapons manufacturers, what about, like, utility companies, like, you know, electrical and phone lines and stuff like that?
00:41:00.000 Well, I mean, there's already some type of collusion between government and most of those infrastructure providers.
00:41:13.000 There's some type of government-okayed monopoly, whether it be on your landlines or your cable companies.
00:41:22.000 A lot of times your Sewer lines whoever put those those installs.
00:41:26.000 That'll be something that the state will or town will will You know bid out and stuff.
00:41:32.000 So those kind of things already have some amount of government monopoly or nationalization, but I did personally I mean, I'm I'm the kind of dude that likes when the government doesn't stick their nose in things.
00:41:43.000 So that's just my take Okay.
00:41:48.000 Well, I was just curious, because with the conversation earlier, you said no to nationalization.
00:41:55.000 Yeah, because government sucks.
00:41:56.000 And I was wondering what the argument against it is.
00:41:59.000 But mostly the, the argument against nationalization in most contexts is the, the pressures that markets provide or the feedback that markets provide, uh, are not provided to the government.
00:42:12.000 So like, if you have a product that is not selling, the fact that it's not selling is information being given to the manufacturer.
00:42:19.000 They need to get rid of the product or lower the price or change it.
00:42:22.000 But that data is coming back when it's the government, they don't, things don't fail.
00:42:27.000 The government just throws more money at it.
00:42:28.000 So they don't have that.
00:42:29.000 That loop of data letting you know, letting them know what is and is not You know being supported by the market or or what the market wants, you know Okay, that makes sense.
00:42:42.000 And I I was undecided on the issue.
00:42:45.000 I didn't really have an argument for or against it, but no that makes total sense and Yeah, that's generally the libertarian argument against nationalization is, for the most part, markets provide information and data that government mandates could never get because they don't have the same feedback that a market does.
00:43:08.000 Cool.
00:43:08.000 Well, that about answers my question.
00:43:11.000 Can I just shout out something real quick?
00:43:13.000 Fuck yes.
00:43:16.000 Okay, so I am Dave the Lego guy.
00:43:19.000 For anybody who's not in the Discord server, you can find me on Instagram as MatteoThePlagueDoctor to see all the cool Lego stuff that I build.
00:43:28.000 If you are in the Discord server, if you go over to the showcase tab and just type in Lego in the showcase tab, my showcase shows up and from there you can see some of the cool stuff I've built and it links to my Instagram and my YouTube channel.
00:43:44.000 Where I talk about me building cool Lego stuff.
00:43:47.000 So if Legos are your jam, check out the showcase and you can come find me.
00:43:51.000 Man, you really are the Lego guy.
00:43:54.000 Thanks, Dave.
00:43:54.000 I used to build so much shit with Legos.
00:43:56.000 Cheers, man.
00:43:57.000 I was like, what I did, what I did.
00:43:58.000 Likewise.
00:43:59.000 That's what we used to do.
00:44:00.000 We played with our hands when we were little.
00:44:03.000 Yeah, true.
00:44:03.000 Legos were awesome.
00:44:05.000 Legos are the best.
00:44:06.000 I am trying to read the name here.
00:44:09.000 You're with us, JC Kramer.
00:44:12.000 Yeah, JC Kramer.
00:44:12.000 Hey guys.
00:44:13.000 Hi.
00:44:14.000 Howdy.
00:44:16.000 Did you ask what's going on?
00:44:17.000 Yeah, I've been listening to all these conversations and they relate very much to my occupation, so if you end up needing anything answered in the realm of utilities or anything like that, hit me up.
00:44:30.000 But my question for you guys was, along the lines of the Trump and Ramaswamy news, Do you think that if Trump was unalived, natural or not, there would be a major response?
00:44:48.000 Or do you think the Republicans would rally to back some other candidate at the last minute because of the absolute insane measures of the deep state?
00:44:59.000 My initial thoughts, since Vivek has joined Trump now, is that That might not be the case anymore.
00:45:08.000 Like, it's a bit more towards the first half of the answer rather than the second.
00:45:15.000 Your question was if Trump was unalive, if who would throw their support behind Vivek?
00:45:22.000 Is that what you're asking?
00:45:23.000 Or someone else?
00:45:24.000 Yeah, I was thinking, like, would there be, like, a major response, civil war?
00:45:30.000 Or do you think that the Republicans would No, I don't think it would be peaceful.
00:45:39.000 It would be crazy, crazy, crazy town if someone did that.
00:45:42.000 Maybe not.
00:45:43.000 Here's the most likely scenario if it is going to be Trump losing his life.
00:45:47.000 Russia terror attack.
00:45:49.000 Oh, they'll blame it on some bullshit?
00:45:51.000 Yeah, there'll be a cyber attack which causes some kind of disaster that will cause harm to Trump.
00:45:57.000 They'll then come out and be like, I mean, what do you think would happen if, overwhelmingly, it appeared, even to Trump supporters, that Russia killed Donald Trump?
00:46:08.000 Yeah, there'd be a lot of anti-Russia stuff.
00:46:09.000 It'd be insane.
00:46:10.000 It would be demands among the MAGA base to retaliate.
00:46:14.000 And I know this because when the issue came up of potential assassination, we asked on the show, if the president was assassinated, should the U.S.
00:46:22.000 declare war and retaliate?
00:46:23.000 And a lot of people said no, but most conservatives across the internet when addressing this issue said, if you do not retaliate and declare war on a country that killed your president, you have no country.
00:46:34.000 And I actually agree.
00:46:36.000 A foreign nation executes one of your principal leaders.
00:46:41.000 We have more than one, but the president is our principal executive branch leader.
00:46:46.000 If he was assassinated, that is the most egregious act of war imaginable.
00:46:50.000 And if we don't retaliate in any way, we're basically saying, we're fair game, do whatever the fuck you want to us.
00:46:55.000 So imagine...
00:46:56.000 You want to get rid of Trump?
00:46:57.000 Oops, Russia did it.
00:46:59.000 And then what happens if it appears so overwhelming that while many Trump supporters say, I don't trust the government, they're lying.
00:47:05.000 There's a video, multiple videos, multiple angles.
00:47:09.000 Or how about Trump goes on a peace mission in Europe and is killed during a meeting with Russia by one of the Russian envoys.
00:47:17.000 And it's all set up, a guy in Russia as a turncoat working for whatever, insert bad agency you want it to be.
00:47:25.000 Russia isn't aware, maybe they are, who knows?
00:47:27.000 If it appears as though Trump was killed by Russia, the U.S.
00:47:30.000 will get its World War III, and Trump supporters will agree with it.
00:47:32.000 Oh, and then people like Hillary would be able to be like, you know, I never liked him, but it was unacceptable what they did, and we have to avenge his death.
00:47:40.000 And it would be like, oh God, and they're profiting off of it.
00:47:43.000 They'll do that thing where it's like, you know, do you have siblings?
00:47:46.000 I do, sister.
00:47:47.000 You have siblings?
00:47:48.000 Yeah.
00:47:48.000 You have siblings?
00:47:49.000 Yeah, okay.
00:47:50.000 Serge?
00:47:51.000 Hey, brother.
00:47:51.000 All right, so like if a stranger insults your sibling, you say, fuck you, motherfucker, I'll fuck you up, but you insult your sibling all day, every day.
00:47:59.000 I'm allowed, we're allowed to rib on each other, but someone else, like getting in a fight with a family member is your business, but someone else insulting your family is an attack on all of you.
00:48:07.000 So Hillary and them would be like, Donald Trump was not a good man.
00:48:13.000 He was dangerous for our country, but we handled things here through a legal process.
00:48:18.000 And an attack on an American citizen and a political leader is an attack on this country.
00:48:23.000 And then Nikki Haley is going to be like, I think that's why we have to go blow up Russia.
00:48:28.000 And then Trump supporters would be like, I don't care.
00:48:31.000 Russia did it.
00:48:31.000 We want we want war.
00:48:33.000 Oh, man.
00:48:33.000 I wonder if Don's just like all day, if he thinks about assassination like daily now.
00:48:38.000 I would like Nikki Haley to not have teeth.
00:48:42.000 They're huge.
00:48:44.000 I want Nikki Haley to get the grill that Kanye just got.
00:48:49.000 That's what I want.
00:48:50.000 Do people know that he just had his teeth removed?
00:48:52.000 This is fucking insane, by the way.
00:48:54.000 I know, and it's not even a good, like, it's garbage.
00:48:56.000 He got cheap garbage.
00:48:58.000 So they're saying it's like it's an $850,000 grill.
00:49:00.000 Motherfucker, dental implants already cost a quarter million dollars.
00:49:04.000 For real, like, a full set of dental implants is like $100,000 to $200,000.
00:49:07.000 Kanye got an $850,000 titanium grill.
00:49:07.000 I'm like, The way I describe it is, if I bought a Honda Civic, and you bought a Honda Accord.
00:49:17.000 Ain't nobody driving on a Honda Accord being like, yo look at my ride!
00:49:20.000 You'd be like, Honda Accord's nice.
00:49:22.000 It's an upgrade from the Civic.
00:49:23.000 Is it a Touring?
00:49:25.000 Okay, so it's got heated seats and it's got the... It's a sensible car, though, you know?
00:49:28.000 It gets me where I gotta go.
00:49:30.000 Like a Touring could cost 60 grand.
00:49:32.000 Yeah.
00:49:32.000 I mean, hey, no joke.
00:49:33.000 Honda Civic, 20 to 30.
00:49:35.000 But no one's driving the Civic being like, yeah, it's two or three times the cost of... No one's driving the Accord being like, two to three times the Civic.
00:49:42.000 No, you get like a Lotus or a McLaren.
00:49:44.000 You want to get a fancy car, you drop a million bucks.
00:49:46.000 So if you wanted to get a hot grill, he's gotta spend at least two or three million, but otherwise he's basically just doing a goofy upgrade on standard.
00:49:54.000 But like, your teeth are priceless.
00:49:56.000 Did his teeth fall out?
00:49:57.000 I don't understand.
00:49:58.000 They looked good to me.
00:49:59.000 No, they were fine.
00:50:00.000 They just look normal teeth, from what I could tell.
00:50:02.000 And he literally, this is confirmed, we're confirming it in real time, he had this teeth pulled the fuck out of his head, is that what happened?
00:50:08.000 I think they do the same thing you do when you get veneers, like they shave them down and then put the thing on it.
00:50:17.000 And if you get veneers, one of the good things, I looked into getting veneers, and when you get veneers, you never have to do dental work ever again.
00:50:26.000 That's the last dental work you ever have to get.
00:50:32.000 Connelly denied the teeth removal, telling The Complex, this is from page6.com, he did not have his teeth removed, he still has a full dentition, healthy and happy.
00:50:43.000 Yeah, I was thinking it could be like a grill.
00:50:45.000 I don't know.
00:50:45.000 Dude, leave it to Kanye to pull some shit and just put some fake things over his teeth and be like, yo, motherfucker.
00:50:51.000 Yeah, and then people probably ran with it and he's like, yeah, sure, I'm not going to stop it.
00:50:53.000 Yeah, because he's like free merchandising.
00:50:56.000 Not merchandising, but free press, you know?
00:50:59.000 Yay, new grill.
00:51:00.000 He wanted to look like Jaws.
00:51:02.000 He was comparing himself to Jaws from 007.
00:51:04.000 That's pretty cool.
00:51:06.000 What?
00:51:06.000 That guy's wild.
00:51:07.000 The villain, Jaws, from 007, he would like, bite, he had like a real strong bite.
00:51:10.000 Did you ever see that movie?
00:51:12.000 No, yeah, I did, I did.
00:51:13.000 That was a wild movie.
00:51:15.000 Didn't he like bite steel or something?
00:51:16.000 Maybe, yeah.
00:51:17.000 He could bite through stuff.
00:51:18.000 Anyway, shall we, uh, move on?
00:51:21.000 Anything else to say, my friend?
00:51:24.000 Yeah, just real quick.
00:51:25.000 I am trying to develop a game for Temcast IRL.
00:51:29.000 It's going to be a card game that's a mix between trivia and poker.
00:51:34.000 If anybody's interested in testing that with me, I would love for you to reach out to me.
00:51:38.000 Do it on Discord.
00:51:39.000 Thanks.
00:51:39.000 We've got our first set for, um... Cheers, man.
00:51:43.000 Uh, Debate Me is the name of the game.
00:51:45.000 Did I describe Debate Me already?
00:51:46.000 Uh, briefly.
00:51:47.000 It would've been a couple months ago if you did.
00:51:49.000 Yeah, it was a while ago.
00:51:50.000 I think we need to hire a standard, like, game master.
00:51:53.000 Oh, okay.
00:51:53.000 We were talking with one company about having them take control of it, but for a variety of reasons, it has to be internally, mostly because we've already done a lot of work on the game, and so we can't just hand that off.
00:52:04.000 But, um, we probably need to hire someone who's gonna oversee that development and production.
00:52:10.000 Yeah, I agree.
00:52:11.000 Someone who knows the culture war.
00:52:12.000 I work well with gamers in general, but someone that's dedicated to it, like, every day.
00:52:17.000 The idea is to make a game, if you've ever played Texas Hold'em, it's the same game.
00:52:23.000 Decks are 52 cards, 13 power levels, there's left, right, center, and establishment, those are the factions, and the purpose of the game is to build the best debate team.
00:52:32.000 So if you have two level two debaters, you beat a prime debater because you have two of them, and that's the way it works.
00:52:38.000 So, it's the same as poker.
00:52:40.000 There's a brigade, which is a flush, all the same side.
00:52:44.000 If everyone in your hand is left wing, you have a brigade.
00:52:47.000 That's a flush.
00:52:48.000 And, uh, the stronger brigade wins.
00:52:49.000 If you have, like, a straight, we'll call it something else.
00:52:53.000 But then the goal is, cards, rare cards, and special cards will have different abilities that affect the game, but they'll all be optional.
00:53:00.000 So we're building that right now.
00:53:01.000 We have the first base set.
00:53:02.000 We just need someone to manage it so it can get done faster.
00:53:06.000 Brianna, do you have any experience with games?
00:53:07.000 No, none.
00:53:08.000 I have zero to contribute to that one.
00:53:10.000 Neither do I. So I kind of just let everyone go.
00:53:12.000 Did you play video games back in the day?
00:53:14.000 Did you guys?
00:53:15.000 Not really, no.
00:53:17.000 So the game is everybody starts with 200 followers.
00:53:17.000 No.
00:53:21.000 If you think your debate team is good, you invite your followers to the debate.
00:53:24.000 If you win the debate, you gain everyone's followers.
00:53:27.000 So the loser of the debate loses their followers, the winner gains the followers, and whoever wins all the followers in the end is the winner.
00:53:32.000 Or however you want to do it.
00:53:33.000 And that way we bypass all the rules around poker being illegal because we're playing a collectible trading card game.
00:53:40.000 Anyway, let's grab that next caller.
00:53:41.000 Yep!
00:53:42.000 Last, but certainly not least, Farm Graceful... I can't read the rest of it.
00:53:47.000 Farm Graceful Swan, I'm assuming, SW?
00:53:49.000 Swan Fatale.
00:53:51.000 Farm Graceful Swan Fatale.
00:53:52.000 Oh, Swan Fatale, how are you doing?
00:53:54.000 I'm doing well, how are you guys doing?
00:53:56.000 Doing well as well.
00:53:57.000 Being in there just having a good time.
00:53:59.000 Happy to finally call in.
00:54:00.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:54:01.000 I'm just graceful swan because I fell off a ladder and broke my leg.
00:54:03.000 Oh no!
00:54:04.000 Damn Stereo.
00:54:08.000 Anyway, so my question is, I actually noticed today that my official election mailer from the state of Nevada doesn't have the right date or doesn't have the date at all for the GOP primary caucus on there.
00:54:22.000 It has primary listed and it has the date for the Democrat caucus and in the state you have to go caucus with where you're registered and I actually also got my sample ballot today out of the mailbox and it's the same thing.
00:54:35.000 It says February 6th No mention of February 8th on either side of the card.
00:54:39.000 and the second side doesn't mention February at all.
00:54:43.000 So, let's just see what guys thought would be possibly our outcome from that.
00:54:48.000 Are you a registered Republican?
00:54:50.000 Yes.
00:54:51.000 That's crazy.
00:54:54.000 I'm not surprised.
00:54:54.000 It sounds like election interference.
00:54:56.000 What else do you expect?
00:54:59.000 Yeah, it kind of proves the point of that doctor that was on Culture War with you about his notifications.
00:55:04.000 Yep.
00:55:05.000 What was that?
00:55:06.000 He said that the way they cheat is really simple.
00:55:09.000 Facebook will send Democrats a reminder to vote, and they won't send Republicans one.
00:55:13.000 Oh yeah, it's insidious.
00:55:14.000 Yep, and they're saying it's free speech, I can say what I want.
00:55:18.000 Yeah, I even looked at Politico, which I hate to confirm that I wasn't crazy, that the date is February 8th, and it lists both the 6th and the 8th.
00:55:27.000 Yeah, it's frustrating.
00:55:29.000 Well, that's what I heard when I was still living in California about bringing these random mail-in things for people that weren't alive, that didn't live there.
00:55:35.000 I think I probably got a mail-in thing for someone that didn't live in the house anymore, just like a random thing.
00:55:42.000 And the idea is that you'll be going to the right person or whatever, but you could easily have just filled it in and sent it in and no one would know.
00:55:48.000 And a lot of these problems could be solved if the RNC was run, you know, by someone that had half a brain.
00:55:57.000 Right now, Rhonda McDaniels.
00:55:58.000 Yeah, Rhonda McDaniels is an absolute train wreck.
00:56:01.000 And a lot of these, there are things that could be repaired and band-aids that could be placed over stuff if you had a competent Republican party, but you don't.
00:56:13.000 Yeah, shout out to my father.
00:56:15.000 See, I told you we're talking about her.
00:56:16.000 She sucks.
00:56:18.000 Your father?
00:56:18.000 Yeah, he doesn't like Ronald McDonald.
00:56:20.000 Oh, really?
00:56:21.000 Yeah.
00:56:22.000 Who does?
00:56:23.000 Yeah, I can't stand her at all.
00:56:25.000 I totally stopped donating to them because the money doesn't go where it's supposed to.
00:56:30.000 I told Charlie Kirk I thought that Turning Point was taking the role of the RNC.
00:56:35.000 Yep.
00:56:36.000 Yeah, pretty much.
00:56:37.000 It does kind of feel like that, at least the excitement of the Republican Party is at Turning Point.
00:56:41.000 Or AmFest.
00:56:42.000 Yeah.
00:56:46.000 Right on.
00:56:47.000 Well, I don't know, I suggest you talk to a local rep.
00:56:50.000 Ask them about it.
00:56:51.000 Yeah, and best of luck with your leg.
00:56:52.000 Yeah, I've been trying to find out information.
00:56:54.000 Thanks, I'm almost out of my boot.
00:56:56.000 Nice.
00:56:56.000 What are you gonna do first when your leg's healed?
00:56:59.000 Scratch the leg.
00:57:00.000 Scratch.
00:57:01.000 We're gonna go probably shoot some shit, because I'm one of those little small manufacturers that would not like the nationalization to happen.
00:57:09.000 Nice.
00:57:10.000 Hell yeah.
00:57:10.000 Oh, sweet.
00:57:11.000 What do you manufacture?
00:57:11.000 Right on.
00:57:13.000 Um, suppressors and then just different NFA items.
00:57:17.000 Cool.
00:57:17.000 I have a 22 suppressor called a Gopher Gator, which is my favorite.
00:57:20.000 Nice.
00:57:21.000 Sweet.
00:57:21.000 Right on.
00:57:22.000 Yeah, well, cheers.
00:57:23.000 Thanks for calling in.
00:57:24.000 Thank you.
00:57:26.000 You guys come see us in the discord and searcher hair gives me life every day.
00:57:34.000 Well, Brianna, thanks for hanging out.
00:57:35.000 Thank you for having me.
00:57:36.000 I appreciate it.
00:57:37.000 Absolutely.
00:57:38.000 And for everybody who's a member, uh, I'm texting over here about our super Tuesday plans, which is going to be in West Virginia.
00:57:45.000 And I think it's going to be a long show.
00:57:46.000 It might even, I think it'll be like, it could be really long.
00:57:49.000 It just depends because super Tuesday is going to be wild.
00:57:51.000 Like how much was it?
00:57:52.000 16 States I think are voting, but here's the crazy shit.
00:57:56.000 What if Hayley and Ron drop out?
00:58:00.000 Then there's no Super Tuesday.
00:58:02.000 So we have to plan the event well in advance.
00:58:05.000 We may have a Super Tuesday event plan with tickets sold and then they drop out and there's a Super Tuesday.
00:58:10.000 We'll just call it Tuesday.
00:58:11.000 We'll just call it regular Tuesday event live.
00:58:13.000 Tim Guest IRL.
00:58:14.000 Alright everybody, we're gonna wrap it up there.
00:58:15.000 Thanks for being members.