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00:00:24.000 So we have this story that I find particularly disturbing, and it's part of a series of stories that have hit in the past couple of days.

00:00:31.000 Boston Children's Hospital Director Calls for Drastic Increase in Capacity for Gender Surgeries for Minors.

00:00:37.000 That's the headline.

00:00:38.000 Yeah, that was a crazy story.

00:00:39.000 And then we also have this one.

00:00:41.000 Here we go.

00:00:42.000 Drag Queen Performs Lap Dance on Student and Gyrates in Front of Cheering Children at Pride Event in North Carolina.

00:00:48.000 There's an image that I think nobody wants to see and people need to see because on Bill Maher, I don't know if I have the tweet up right here.

00:00:57.000 That's not it.

00:00:57.000 Is this one?

00:00:57.000 That's Matthew Iglesias complaining about being verified.

00:01:00.000 No, there was a tweet where Winsome Sears was on Bill Maher.

00:01:04.000 She was great.

00:01:05.000 And she said, I don't want drag queens doing lap dances on my kids. 1.00

00:01:09.000 And Bill Maher goes, well, I don't think that's happening.

00:01:11.000 And she goes, it is happening.

00:01:12.000 Didn't you see this?

00:01:13.000 And he goes, well, I don't see this.

00:01:14.000 And she goes, Bill, you gotta read more.

00:01:17.000 And it was a brilliant... Oh, I gotta look at that.

00:01:19.000 Brilliant!

00:01:20.000 And Bill goes, I guess I do.

00:01:21.000 Yeah.

00:01:22.000 Oh, good for him.

00:01:23.000 So he was humble about it. 1.00

00:01:24.000 Yeah, the problem is... Because usually he's an arrogant jerk with that stuff. 1.00

00:01:27.000 Yep. 1.00

00:01:28.000 Well, I think he's learning his lesson that he does not read.

00:01:30.000 And this is the kind of stuff that is happening right now in schools.

00:01:33.000 Oh, good for him.

00:01:34.000 Everybody... That's actually... That's progress.

00:01:36.000 Yes.

00:01:37.000 And I might end up going on there on real time.

00:01:39.000 I don't know.

00:01:40.000 That would be great.

00:01:40.000 I think you should.

00:01:41.000 Well, there's...

00:01:42.000 I don't want to drag other people into it, but high-profile conservative individuals who know Bill Maher have been asking me, like... Yeah, you'd be excellent.

00:01:49.000 You have a lot to say.

00:01:50.000 That's like a thing I can watch lots and lots.

00:01:52.000 Because you're not an ideologue, you have a lot to say.

00:01:55.000 Well, I would just simply be like, you're allowed to not like Trump, that's fine, but...

00:02:00.000 Yo, their drag queens are giving lap dances to kids. 1.00

00:02:02.000 Like, here's the video.

00:02:03.000 Just watch it.

00:02:04.000 I would like to represent- Real quick.

00:02:06.000 When they're on this show, do they not have phones?

00:02:08.000 Are they made to, like, leave their phones behind?

00:02:10.000 Because I would just be like, you don't believe me?

00:02:12.000 Here you go, Bill!

00:02:13.000 And then Bill's going to be like, I am looking at a drag queen giving a lap dance for a child in a school. 0.96

00:02:19.000 You said he backed down, which is a development because old Bill Maher would have been snarky and been like, I read plenty.

00:02:26.000 Like Dennis Prager when he said tampons in the men's room and he started laughing at him.

00:02:30.000 Yes, the whole place erupted.

00:02:31.000 I think Bill Maher might be learning the world has gone a little more insane than he realizes.

00:02:36.000 So, I think most people listening, who listen to this show, know all this is happening.

00:02:40.000 I think this image, for those of you who want to Google search it, would be helpful if you're trying to explain to loved ones, friends, and family who don't believe you.

00:02:48.000 My recommendation is always, don't be angry, don't be agitated, don't be adversarial, just be alike.

00:02:53.000 Would you, just, here you go.

00:02:54.000 Curious.

00:02:55.000 Just look at this.

00:02:56.000 Now, people have told me it doesn't matter, they still don't care.

00:02:59.000 And that's when you have to realize they like it, okay?

00:03:03.000 They're into it, yeah.

00:03:03.000 No, no, no.

00:03:04.000 If you go to someone you know and say, I think this is wrong, and they say, why do you care?

00:03:08.000 I don't care.

00:03:09.000 You need to recognize they don't care.

00:03:12.000 Conservatives keep projecting too much and thinking that these evil people can be convinced by sound arguments and reason.

00:03:20.000 They cannot.

00:03:21.000 Some people can. 0.99

00:03:22.000 A lot of people will see that and go, no fucking way. 0.97

00:03:24.000 Yeah, you gotta plug in other, like, okay, what if it was me? 0.98

00:03:28.000 Forget about, what if I went up to a kid in a public park and did this to them? 0.99

00:03:32.000 And then they're like, whoa, that's fucking crazy. 1.00

00:03:35.000 That, for my own mother, is helpful because, like with Trump, I'm like, what if it was me getting put through this bullshit? 1.00

00:03:41.000 She's like, well, then I would fucking hate it! 0.99

00:03:42.000 I'm like, you gotta like disassociate from the emotions. 0.97

00:03:45.000 I think that's right. 0.95

00:03:47.000 And also what I'd love to do is stop calling this drag queen gets all grindy on a guy and start being like sexual deviant. 0.99

00:03:53.000 I totally agree. 0.95

00:03:54.000 I think that's exactly right. 1.00

00:03:56.000 Rubs cock on child. 1.00

00:03:57.000 Yes. 1.00

00:03:58.000 No, seriously.

00:03:58.000 That's that's what I think that's right in the vocabulary matters.

00:04:01.000 There's so many trans people that are awesome, and I don't want to just pigeonhole... Drag is not trans. 1.00

00:04:05.000 And there's so many people that wear drag that are awesome.

00:04:05.000 Drag isn't trans.

00:04:07.000 There's also great drag queens. 1.00

00:04:08.000 I mean, the issue is not... Like, I did theater for years.

00:04:12.000 I had someone who was in drag who was...

00:04:16.000 Who was the emcee of my show, who's actually now a very well-known trans activist on social media, and you'd know who it was if I said it.

00:04:26.000 But he was doing our show for years and years and years.

00:04:29.000 He was a drag queen. 1.00

00:04:30.000 We had a lot of drag at the show.

00:04:31.000 We had a lot of You know, we had, like, trans playwrights, we had trans performers, all this kind of stuff.

00:04:37.000 And it was totally—we had a great time.

00:04:39.000 It was good artwork.

00:04:40.000 It was for adults.

00:04:41.000 The club was for adults.

00:04:43.000 The whole thing was for adults.

00:04:44.000 I wanted to bring this up, because I think it's actually a good segue into religion.

00:04:48.000 Because I know that we were going to talk about that, and this, to me, is Beyond moral degradation.

00:04:55.000 I got to talk about this has been burning my mind.

00:04:57.000 Are you can you consider yourself Catholic?

00:04:58.000 I'm Christian Christian evangelical Christian, but I have a great respect for Catholics One of the things about Catholicism that I think is getting me right now Is that okay people like Matt Walsh and I don't want to call you out by name Matt because you're not here But let's talk about it when I see you is that saying boys can't be girls boys or boys girls or girls?

00:05:13.000 Okay, let's live in reality I'm into that but don't tell me that a spirit impregnated a woman because we're in this reality game now and I can't take Reality advice from someone that is trying to tell me that a ghost got a girl pregnant 2,000 years ago.

00:05:29.000 Charlie looks at me, I think it's a gross oversimplification of what people believe.

00:05:31.000 And I have a feeling if people start to admit that that is fantastical, that people from the other side or whatever, people that are trans are like, you know what, okay, I can start to take maybe boys are boys, and we can be trans women too, but boys are boys.

00:05:45.000 I can see like, if people start to all kind of accept reality at once, that it might Bring some people together.

00:05:51.000 Okay, so your question is with the incarnation?

00:05:54.000 Of Mary getting impregnated by, she said, a spirit.

00:05:56.000 It was probably a Roman guy and it would have been executed. 0.99

00:05:58.000 His family would have been killed. 1.00

00:05:59.000 Mary would have been killed. 0.99

00:06:00.000 So they're like, well, let's, we gotta, we gotta, can't be honest about this.

00:06:02.000 We gotta tell Jesus his dad was the God.

00:06:06.000 I do think that there are things that we have to take on faith.

00:06:08.000 So I think it's also very unrealistic to believe that a man rose from the dead after being crucified and hung out and, you know, Suffocating to death over a period of hours.

00:06:18.000 I think it's very unlikely to believe that someone rose from the dead after experiencing that after being, you know, like put in clothes, you know, wrapped up in a shroud and put behind a rock.

00:06:30.000 But we have to take things on faith.

00:06:31.000 We have to believe in order to believe everything that comes with it.

00:06:35.000 And I wanna, real quick, just I wanna say, there's a big difference between someone being like, there are things that exist beyond our understanding in reality, and things that exist beyond our capabilities and power, and that may have a factor in our existence. 0.75

00:06:50.000 There's a difference between that, and then saying something like, surgically removing a child's penis makes him a girl.

00:06:56.000 Yeah, there's a difference between saying there are things greater than my understanding, and that for sure a spirit impregnated a woman. 0.98

00:07:01.000 Right, but Ian, listen.

00:07:02.000 But there's more to it than that as well.

00:07:04.000 Surgery and hormones does not make a boy or a girl, or a girl a boy.

00:07:07.000 That is not physical reality.

00:07:09.000 Arguing about something faith-based supernatural is an entirely different area.

00:07:12.000 But there's also, there's also, we do know that there are people who are more comfortable presenting as the opposite sex and being seen as much as possible as the opposite sex, right?

00:07:24.000 And that's, that is something that we've seen throughout history, but that does not mean The entire Christian faith and everything we believe, especially this Easter week, all hinges on the Resurrection.

00:07:34.000 That's the whole ballgame.

00:07:35.000 Yeah, so the entire Christian faith and everything we believe, especially this Easter week, all hinges on the

00:07:42.000 resurrection.

00:07:43.000 That's the whole ball game. And so there's two things that make Christianity. Genesis 1, 1, and the resurrection.

00:07:50.000 If those two things are true, everything else in the Bible can be true, from the incarnation to Jonah and the whale.

00:07:56.000 And so, the Resurrection is the most, by ancient historical standards, the most documented event we have ever seen.

00:08:04.000 Right?

00:08:05.000 Most eyewitnesses, least to gain.

00:08:07.000 People do things for sex, money, and power. 0.52

00:08:09.000 The people that wrote about it did not gain sex, money, or power.

00:08:13.000 In fact, they all died a rather brutal death because of the documentation.

00:08:17.000 A couple possibilities.

00:08:18.000 One is his body was stolen.

00:08:19.000 to the eight extra-biblical accounts.

00:08:21.000 And so I guess my question, Ian, would be for you, what do you think happened with the

00:08:26.000 resurrection?

00:08:27.000 Because in some ways it's the most celebrated, most documented event.

00:08:30.000 I'm just curious, what do you believe?

00:08:32.000 A couple possibilities.

00:08:33.000 One is his body was stolen.

00:08:34.000 But did they say they saw him walking around?

00:08:36.000 Yes, that's correct.

00:08:37.000 So it's possible that they buried him when he was still alive?

00:08:39.000 They thought he was dead?

00:08:40.000 Okay, that one, I could respond to that, but Roman crucifixion is almost impossible to survive.

00:08:45.000 That's like ancient zombies, that was the idea, that they would throw people in the grave without knowing that they were real, and they'd climb out and be like, I'm not quite dead!

00:08:52.000 And they'd be like, oh my god!

00:08:53.000 The Romans were really good at making sure the person on a cross was dead. 1.00

00:08:59.000 But the second one is a stolen body, right?

00:09:02.000 That doesn't explain then the people who saw him after the event.

00:09:06.000 So those are two separate things, right?

00:09:08.000 Was he not actually killed when he was put in the tomb, or was the body actually stolen by his A beach trip turned breakdown is a drag.

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00:10:18.000 Also, hearsay could be part of it, like someone thought they saw a guy that looked like him and said they saw him, and then someone else is like, yeah, actually, me too, and then it spreads.

00:10:26.000 So in order for that to be true, why then would the people closest to him then die voluntarily based on a hearsay?

00:10:36.000 Because everyone around him, including his half-brother, died a brutal death based on the testimony following. 0.98

00:10:41.000 Yeah, imagine it like, you see these movies where they're torturing a guy, being like, tell us where you hid the money, and the guy really doesn't know, and it's like, I don't know, and they're like, then I'm going to electrocute your balls. 0.96

00:10:51.000 But they could have avoided the torture, and they didn't. 0.84

00:10:55.000 That's my point.

00:10:56.000 Which makes it compelling, in the very least, right?

00:10:59.000 Well, I'll put it this way.

00:11:00.000 I'm not Christian, I believe in God, but my attitude is simply this.

00:11:05.000 I think if somebody, you know, right now we have all these liberals talking about simulation theory and you've got these powerful prominent thinkers saying the likelihood that we exist in a simulation is probably near one.

00:11:16.000 And it's like, okay, well, if you can believe that.

00:11:20.000 Then you can certainly believe that the person who made the simulation clicked resurrect on the body of Jesus Christ.

00:11:20.000 Yes.

00:11:26.000 I tend to believe that there is a God watching quantum physics in action, seeing the cosmic microwave background radiation, looks like a web of energy, like there's something going on.

00:11:34.000 This universe seems to be sentient.

00:11:36.000 But the man-made stories about it, I am very cautious about.

00:11:41.000 And I hear the caution, right?

00:11:42.000 And what I would just challenge you to think about and to meditate is that The resurrection was not an isolated incident that just one person turned into a mythological narrative, right?

00:11:55.000 You have Josephus that talked about it, who was a Roman historian.

00:11:59.000 You have Maimonides, who was also known as Ramban, who was one of the main authors of a Talmudic commentary who talked about it.

00:12:09.000 The Babylonian Talmud talks about Jesus and his testimony, so you have all these extra biblical accounts.

00:12:15.000 But you also then have the core canon—Matthew, Mark, Luke, and John—that all support the same story with different details, so it didn't come from the same spot, right?

00:12:24.000 And so the question is, then, why?

00:12:25.000 I have another theory.

00:12:26.000 Yeah, go ahead, please.

00:12:27.000 A lot of drugs were used back then, and they're not really in the texts, unfortunately.

00:12:31.000 But there's a lot of hallucinogenic activity.

00:12:32.000 If that's true, then why did Paul directly call out pharmakia as being that from Satan?

00:12:37.000 Oh, interesting.

00:12:38.000 Not all of them.

00:12:39.000 But isn't that a revelation as well?

00:12:39.000 Not all of them.

00:12:41.000 And Jesus declined opiates at his death.

00:12:43.000 That's correct.

00:12:44.000 Yeah, so if that's true and they were under pharmacological influence, then Paul would be rejecting a tradition of people in Jesus' close circle.

00:12:54.000 He said that pharmakia, which is the Greek term for drug use, was a gateway to...

00:13:00.000 There's people who say like, I don't do drugs, but they drink coffee.

00:13:03.000 Caffeine's a drug, but they don't consider it a drug.

00:13:05.000 Sure.

00:13:06.000 So the question is what would be, and here's, here's, here's the counter argument to the drug argument is that if you're on drugs and Tim's on drugs and I'm on drugs, we're all going to have separate hallucinogenic experiences.

00:13:06.000 So maybe.

00:13:17.000 Possibly.

00:13:18.000 But have you heard this phenomenon?

00:13:19.000 Sorry to interrupt, do you have more to say?

00:13:21.000 No, but tell me how we would all be hallucinating the same thing.

00:13:25.000 There's a phenomenon called the phantom DNA experiment that they've done, where they take a piece of DNA in a vacuum and they bombard it with electrons for a while, or photons, photons for a while.

00:13:34.000 Then they remove the DNA and the photons stay there revolving around it as if the DNA was still there.

00:13:40.000 So that's a real scientific experiment where maybe the perception of Jesus' spirit was still there, and they're able to kind of visualize it.

00:13:49.000 I was thinking we were going to talk about morality, religious morality.

00:13:51.000 Yeah, I wanted to talk about that too, and I wanted to talk about Jesus coming to Jerusalem, which is my thing.

00:13:56.000 We could just turn the page on it, but it is Holy Week, so I think it's important, is that we must acknowledge that the Resurrection, the belief of the Resurrection, is the most important event that built the West, right?

00:14:08.000 People's belief in it, because it built modern Christianity.

00:14:11.000 And you might not agree with it or disagree with it, so at least studying it and looking at all the angles of it and all the arguments and counter-arguments I think is really healthy, because whether Jesus was stolen from the tomb or rose from the dead, our entire civilization hinges on the answer to that question.

00:14:27.000 Our entire concept of the difference between good and bad.

00:14:31.000 How to treat other people.

00:14:32.000 That is also correct, yes.

00:14:34.000 And again, like I said, I'm not Christian, I do believe in God, but I think you'll notice a lot of people recognizing that the decline in religion is coinciding with the rise in... I completely agree. 0.68

00:14:46.000 Histrionic personality disorder, social...

00:14:52.000 Drag performers giving lab nets to kids. 0.82

00:14:54.000 This is what Nietzsche warned us about in Beyond Good and Evil.

00:14:59.000 This right here is what Nietzsche tried to warn us about.

00:15:01.000 You can go too far into the order side and you can go too far into the chaos side.

00:15:05.000 Look at the Islamic world. 1.00

00:15:07.000 So the lack of belief in God probably is what's leading people to this weird finding, trying to find pleasure on earth.

00:15:13.000 They think they are God.

00:15:15.000 That's the problem.

00:15:15.000 It's not necessarily the lack of religion, but the lack of belief in God.

00:15:18.000 I think a lot of human religions have twisted God to make it about the pastor.

00:15:23.000 And you're like, I have to listen to you to get in touch with God now.

00:15:25.000 And it's like, yes, now pay your tithe and keep coming here so I can keep telling you what God is.

00:15:31.000 And you're like, dude, God is real.

00:15:32.000 It's like vibrating me right now.

00:15:34.000 think you're right in some sense, but the Christian claim is not that the past—let's

00:15:38.000 put that aside—the Word is the centerpiece, right? As we say, it's the Logos in John 1,

00:15:44.000 and so we believe the Word never returns void, but absent a structure or a narrative,

00:15:51.000 which we believe is the truth—the 66 books of the Bible with one author, the divine—then

00:15:56.000 it all falls apart.

00:15:58.000 But your belief in God being, you know, let's just say, in every crevice and every vibration, or being in nature, is that a fair way to say?

00:16:08.000 Through everything, it seems.

00:16:09.000 Yes, that is not traditional Christian theology.

00:16:13.000 Do you think it's more important that a huge amount of people think that God, like, define God the same way, or more important that everyone has a relationship with God?

00:16:23.000 Well, I think that you must have a relationship with the true God, not a fake God.

00:16:27.000 But I think for society, you must have ethical monotheism.

00:16:31.000 The way I see true God is that you can look at God as a monotheistic thing.

00:16:35.000 You can see it as one, or you can divide it into segments and see it as three.

00:16:38.000 See, I think that's a mistake, and I think the founders would agree.

00:16:41.000 So you have polytheism, you have multiple moralities.

00:16:45.000 Monotheism, you have one agreed-upon general morality.

00:16:47.000 Now, you can have a lot of flex in those joints.

00:16:49.000 But the Founding Fathers, when they wrote the laws of nature and nature's God, they defied God by four different characteristics—above nature, moral, personal, and holy.

00:16:59.000 Every Founding Father believed God were those four things.

00:17:02.000 Sorry, I keep riffing on that.

00:17:05.000 We don't have enough time.

00:17:09.000 I can keep going, but yeah, the abuse by Christians does not mean that the standard set by Christianity is untrue.

00:17:15.000 That's a separate issue.

00:17:16.000 I agree.

00:17:16.000 That's a great point.

00:17:17.000 We should jump to callers.

00:17:19.000 I speak into that. 0.98

00:17:20.000 Tim's right on that, of course, because I could agree with Christian hypocrisy and abuse all day long. 1.00

00:17:25.000 That doesn't mean that the ideal is wrong.

00:17:26.000 I'm sorry, Tim.

00:17:27.000 No, no, I don't want to... I love you guys out there, by the way.

00:17:30.000 Thank you for listening.

00:17:31.000 Give an opportunity to our Discord members to follow up on these questions and conversations, too.

00:17:36.000 So let's grab somebody.

00:17:38.000 Right on.

00:17:39.000 I hope you guys are ready.

00:17:40.000 We're going to take a Burtman58 first. 0.56

00:17:42.000 A Burtman, huh?

00:17:43.000 Yeah, I see a lot of Burtchat in the chat.

00:17:46.000 That meme was good.

00:17:47.000 I think they are muted themselves.

00:17:50.000 I thought the little mute here was unmuted.

00:17:52.000 Burtman58, you're with us right now.

00:17:52.000 There you go.

00:17:54.000 What's going on?

00:17:55.000 Awesome.

00:17:55.000 How's it going, guys?

00:17:56.000 Pretty good.

00:17:58.000 Alright, so my question for Tim is, what is your vision for this community, like this whole Discord chat, and how much do you think we can realistically achieve by connecting not only here on the Discord, but, you know, having meetups together and whatnot.

00:18:12.000 You know, so I'm an Elite member, and I mean, we've already started talking about doing local meetups and whatnot within the states.

00:18:19.000 You know, what more can we do to grow the culture?

00:18:21.000 And what can we do to reach the people who are on the far left or far right that won't join something like this?

00:18:27.000 but how can we reach out to them and connect with them?

00:18:29.000 That last one is tough. I will say that, um, if you saw me tweet, we just, I've been, we've been

00:18:35.000 working with the government to try and figure out in West Virginia how to do a poker club,

00:18:38.000 which is, we've been talking about the elite social club, we want to do poker with the boys,

00:18:43.000 and we might be able to combine the two now and actually have poker with the boys filmed on

00:18:47.000 location where elite members can actually hang out while we're doing the production and potentially

00:18:52.000 even play in these games if they're interested.

00:18:54.000 Not everybody plays poker, I know, but the idea, it was a great idea.

00:18:59.000 Where someone asked about having Troy Nails, these members of Congress, play Among Us like AOC did.

00:19:05.000 And that's like, you know, that's not really the vibe for like a middle-aged Republican politician.

00:19:10.000 But imagine you guys who are elite members are hanging out in this private space.

00:19:14.000 You're interacting with people like Bertman or you're there while Poker with the Boys is being filmed live on a Friday night, Saturday or Sunday, however many shows we do.

00:19:25.000 Or you actually hang out to the point where we're like, why don't you come play on the show and we will stake you, we will sponsor you to play here so you don't have to worry about buying or however end up able to legally do it.

00:19:37.000 I can't speak for... I would love to do that.

00:19:39.000 I love playing poker, and that's one of the things, like... There you go.

00:19:42.000 I would love to do that.

00:19:43.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:19:44.000 And I think this will be huge, because it will be like when AOC played Among Us.

00:19:50.000 Having, like, Charlie Kirk playing Texas Hold'em against AOC... Hilarious.

00:19:54.000 If we could ever get someone like AOC, but having, like... I'm sure we could probably get someone like Ro Khanna, you know, maybe?

00:20:00.000 And we'll say it's meant to be a friendly game that's more unifying and fun and silly and not overtly... Political.

00:20:06.000 Right.

00:20:06.000 That could be interesting for sure.

00:20:07.000 It'd be hilarious.

00:20:08.000 I'll do it in a second.

00:20:09.000 I don't know if they would.

00:20:10.000 But, you know, I think for someone like Ro Khanna and Troy Nails, like they see each other every day, they'd probably be like, OK, let's do this.

00:20:15.000 We might be able to get some Democrats.

00:20:17.000 And then we would just be like, we're not going to make it overly political.

00:20:19.000 We're going to play a friendly game that brings us together.

00:20:22.000 And I think that's healing.

00:20:24.000 So that's one thing.

00:20:25.000 That's one thing.

00:20:25.000 Obviously, I'm really excited about it.

00:20:27.000 As for the community, I think, first, the idea from last week that we do Fridays as This Friday sponsor spot pre-show is for the members.

00:20:37.000 One of the most brilliant things I've ever heard.

00:20:39.000 So being a member and then submitting like, here's my company, here's what we do.

00:20:43.000 Like maybe you're an artist, maybe you're a musician.

00:20:46.000 You're a member, you're already sponsoring the show.

00:20:49.000 We shout out one person every Friday.

00:20:51.000 That's our dedicated spot to shout somebody out from the membership.

00:20:53.000 That right there is huge because then the right, everyone else who watches the show is gonna hear about your business.

00:20:59.000 And it's like a media version of what Public Square is doing.

00:21:02.000 So the more we can shout out and help build culture and through this community, the better off we are.

00:21:07.000 And then the other simple thing is we're just going to try for like the elite club, try and find more ways to just keep all of you involved in the things we're doing.

00:21:16.000 So probably what we'll do when we're in Austin is I'm not going to say anything publicly, but for the people who are in Austin, I'll put a message in the elite club and be like, this is where we're hanging out.

00:21:27.000 Come hang out with us.

00:21:28.000 Ooh.

00:21:28.000 So it's like, and it's like the monetary gate of being the elite club is a combination of factors of

00:21:34.000 we don't want crazy weirdos to come and harass us and we want to build something of value for the company with

00:21:39.000 the value proposition, allocate those resources towards building more things, and

00:21:43.000 then make it worthy valuable for all of you guys who are members.

00:21:46.000 That's one of the things I love about what you're doing is you're creating a community, like it's actually real people talking to each other, hanging out, you know?

00:21:56.000 I got a really good idea.

00:21:57.000 I love that.

00:21:58.000 Well, so we're going to be in Austin this next weekend.

00:22:01.000 I'm going to be in Austin, too.

00:22:03.000 I will not be.

00:22:04.000 We're getting there this weekend, and then the whole week we're doing our shows from Austin, and then we're doing Friday Night IRL Live.

00:22:12.000 But this weekend, we're going to have a special elite member meetup, and I think it's going to be one of the most fun things ever, but I'm only going to say where it's going to be once we're already there for security reasons.

00:22:23.000 These people are out of control.

00:22:24.000 You've got to be careful.

00:22:25.000 Well, just for security reasons, we're gonna go to the location, then I'm gonna post in the Elite Club, like, this is where we're hanging out, come hang out with us.

00:22:33.000 Cool.

00:22:34.000 And I think when we do, people are gonna be like, that's the coolest shit ever, so if you happen to be in the Austin area... 0.72

00:22:39.000 Hopefully it all works out. 0.89

00:22:40.000 You never know with these things, but yeah.

00:22:43.000 I love what you guys are building here.

00:22:45.000 As an entrepreneur, it's really special and it's self-sustainable.

00:22:48.000 You guys need to grow and make it bigger.

00:22:49.000 One thing I've noticed about how to create culture, grow culture, Bert to answer your question a little bit more, is to make YouTube videos, make videos, make Rumble videos, make videos.

00:22:56.000 Because it's like when you look at a culture, a sport culture in a Petri dish, You'll notice it starts to grow and expand in one area, and then all of a sudden, a spore will land in another area of the dish, and another community will begin to grow from that single spore.

00:23:09.000 And it'll start to happen all over, and then synergistically, you'll see all these different cultures growing at once, creating a megaculture.

00:23:17.000 And that's what I've found happens when the people that watch YouTube videos start to make YouTube videos.

00:23:22.000 And it compounds... Say again?

00:23:24.000 I don't know if you guys have seen on the Discord, but...

00:23:29.000 There's currently a Burtoning that is happening, and Burt is now the leader of the Discord.

00:23:33.000 Good!

00:23:33.000 I mean, it's spreading to Twitter, and it's spreading other places, but yes, Burt is now our leader.

00:23:38.000 You see?

00:23:38.000 That's great, and just the idea that other people who are working here are talking with you guys, so you're getting a direct connection with the crew and the team, is helping spread the influence, you know?

00:23:48.000 Like, if you guys share stories in the Discord that our staff and crew end up seeing, it just networks us better, so we're on the same page a lot more, and we learn things faster.

00:23:57.000 I think it's...

00:23:58.000 I don't know if I mean you've talked to Bert about it but I mean there's a story that I sent him about you know some stuff that is going on around me and you know he's working on trying to get the story published about it but it's just cool to be able to actually have these connections and get things to start moving and go.

00:24:16.000 Yeah.

00:24:17.000 Yeah, that's very cool.

00:24:18.000 And I think we've already got this building and we are working on licensing for this club.

00:24:23.000 I think it's going to be lit.

00:24:26.000 It's going to be like a redneck social club. 0.99

00:24:29.000 I want to come hang out there.

00:24:30.000 And you, and you're, yeah.

00:24:31.000 I mean, how cool is that?

00:24:32.000 You know?

00:24:33.000 And so, you know, third floor of this building, we're going to have, I think it'll be cool if we have video games.

00:24:39.000 We have Can we have Ms. 0.87

00:24:41.000 Pac-Man?

00:24:41.000 Ms.

00:24:42.000 Pac-Man?

00:24:43.000 I was thinking more like PS5 or something, you know, Overwatch.

00:24:45.000 I just want one of those old time, you know, I love those.

00:24:48.000 But also a couple poker tables.

00:24:49.000 Can't wait for that.

00:24:51.000 Where hopefully we're trying to get actual licensing for legitimate poker stakes so you can actually buy in and do all that stuff.

00:24:57.000 I think that's the first step towards community building, but then we're hoping to expand these and have, you know, clubs and coffee shops all over the place.

00:25:06.000 I used to be in residence at this poetry club, downtown New York City, and they closed in 2012, which was like the beginning of the end of New York City, as far as I'm concerned.

00:25:16.000 But I'm stoked to get to hang out somewhere with people where there's like, you know, maybe art and coffee and drinks and doing stuff.

00:25:24.000 It's going to be cool.

00:25:25.000 Booze will be another story.

00:25:26.000 Create new community.

00:25:28.000 Absolutely.

00:25:28.000 I love it.

00:25:29.000 So all of us are looking forward to it.

00:25:31.000 But one last thing is, you know, like with the topic of policing and whatnot, I am a

00:25:35.000 police officer and I would love to be able to talk to you guys about like all the different,

00:25:39.000 you know, all your guys' different views on police work and whatnot, since I kind of have

00:25:43.000 an inside view into it.

00:25:45.000 That would be awesome.

00:25:46.000 And just imagine, hopefully in the next couple of months we get this space set up, and you're hanging out in the third floor, and you're playing a poker game with Michael Malice, and you're explaining to him the things he doesn't understand about policing, and then hearing him make his political ideological arguments.

00:26:00.000 I think that would be brilliant.

00:26:01.000 And Burt in the chat just shouted out, Liberty Emmons.

00:26:04.000 I'm sorry, say it?

00:26:05.000 Liberty Emmons?

00:26:06.000 Liberty Emmons.

00:26:07.000 All right.

00:26:08.000 That's great.

00:26:09.000 Well, let's, uh, Burtman, hopefully we, we gave you, you know, I always try to make sure we give everyone adequate time, but I appreciate you, you, uh, calling in.

00:26:16.000 We're going to try and get to more people because I don't know how much time Charlie has.

00:26:18.000 You tell me, man.

00:26:19.000 All right, well, so, uh, thanks for calling in, brother.

00:26:22.000 Thank you.

00:26:23.000 And we're going to, we're going to jump forward.

00:26:24.000 Awesome.

00:26:25.000 Thanks, guys.

00:26:26.000 Thanks for having me.

00:26:28.000 All right.

00:26:29.000 Jeff, the handyman.

00:26:30.000 I like the handle.

00:26:32.000 That's quite good.

00:26:33.000 Handle.

00:26:33.000 Handy.

00:26:34.000 Nice.

00:26:34.000 You're with us, man.

00:26:35.000 How are you?

00:26:37.000 Doing good.

00:26:38.000 Handyman is what I do for a living, so it kind of fits, too. 0.97

00:26:43.000 Oh, yeah.

00:26:43.000 Nice to meet you, man.

00:26:44.000 What's going on?

00:26:46.000 So, I had a question.

00:26:47.000 You guys were talking about getting things back down to the state and local level, and that's great, but I live in the Pacific Northwest.

00:26:57.000 Seattle, Portland dominate the whole state.

00:27:01.000 The state has something, there's enough voters there, they make it happen.

00:27:05.000 How do we stop that from happening to where we don't have these whole western states that are just two big city centers controlling all this territory?

00:27:14.000 You secede!

00:27:15.000 Yeah.

00:27:15.000 Join Greater Idaho!

00:27:16.000 That's what you gotta do.

00:27:16.000 Join Idaho, man.

00:27:17.000 We want you in Idaho.

00:27:19.000 Please join.

00:27:20.000 Unfortunately, I'm about an hour south of Seattle, so that's hard to do.

00:27:24.000 I don't know what to do about that.

00:27:25.000 Seattle's a disaster.

00:27:27.000 I'll take my own personal story.

00:27:29.000 Tim, you will resonate with this.

00:27:31.000 We're both Chicago guys, right?

00:27:33.000 I would love to live in Illinois still, what it used to be.

00:27:37.000 I would live in the Midwest in a second, but I had to leave to be in a place that was consistent with my values, so I live in Arizona now.

00:27:43.000 And so I think moving is tough.

00:27:46.000 It's pain in the tail.

00:27:47.000 It's not ideal.

00:27:48.000 Libby, I don't know if you're comfortable sharing your story.

00:27:50.000 I moved right after Christmas.

00:27:51.000 I left New York after being there for 20-something years.

00:27:56.000 After literally never wanting to live anywhere else, ever.

00:27:58.000 Honorary right-wing nutjob now.

00:27:59.000 And now I'm an honorary right-wing nutjob.

00:28:02.000 I'm a New York expat and, you know, I miss the city but I'm pretty happy about it.

00:28:06.000 Yeah, I mean, I miss parts of Chicago, but most of it's gone.

00:28:09.000 But you just gotta go build a life in a new place, and find people that you love, and lean into it.

00:28:14.000 Seattle's not gonna become a right-wing paradise anytime soon.

00:28:18.000 Ever, yeah, really.

00:28:19.000 Kinda sad.

00:28:20.000 But I mean, I was just in Miami, and I was just in Fort Lauderdale.

00:28:24.000 I mean, there's so much amazing pro-freedom activity happening down there.

00:28:27.000 It's refreshing, it's beautiful, it's organic, it's authentic, it's bottom-up, it's patriotic.

00:28:32.000 I feel like I'm back in America when I'm in Florida.

00:28:34.000 I really do.

00:28:35.000 I'm like, wow, this is amazing.

00:28:36.000 I feel that way when I'm in parts of Arizona, too.

00:28:40.000 I'm not telling you to move, but it's not going to happen based on your current geographic situation.

00:28:46.000 We're moving.

00:28:47.000 So we're doing a half a house picked act.

00:28:50.000 My wife's job is 100% remote and I can start a new business wherever we land. 1.00

00:28:53.000 So it's just a matter of finding the right place to set down roots.

00:28:58.000 We'd love to have you in Phoenix, Arizona.

00:29:00.000 It's the fastest growing city in America.

00:29:02.000 So consider that.

00:29:03.000 Yeah, it was so nice.

00:29:05.000 And that's actually a good point because Arizona needs more.

00:29:07.000 We need more right wingers.

00:29:09.000 Freedom loving individuals, I put it, you know.

00:29:11.000 Because, I mean, you can... Liberty lovers. 0.90

00:29:13.000 Jimmy Dore is a good dude.

00:29:15.000 He would help fix Arizona.

00:29:16.000 All the same.

00:29:17.000 We would open anybody that believes in the promise of the founding.

00:29:20.000 Come to Arizona.

00:29:21.000 I liked Phoenix the couple times I've been there.

00:29:24.000 I've been there for your events.

00:29:26.000 I've traveled all 50 states twice over.

00:29:28.000 I've traveled 2,907 days in the last decade.

00:29:31.000 I've been to over 12 countries.

00:29:32.000 My favorite place in the world is Arizona.

00:29:35.000 There's no place I'd rather live.

00:29:38.000 Right on.

00:29:39.000 All right, man.

00:29:41.000 Get all your questions in?

00:29:43.000 Yeah, that's cool.

00:29:44.000 I've been a member since day one and listening since you were doing like ten shows a day.

00:29:51.000 I mean, I'm starting to pick it back up, you know.

00:29:54.000 Hey, anyways, Jeff.

00:29:55.000 You're just perfect now.

00:29:57.000 Appreciate it, man.

00:29:58.000 Thanks for calling in, man.

00:29:59.000 Thanks, Jeff.

00:30:01.000 Later.

00:30:01.000 See you, man.

00:30:03.000 We got Patriot.

00:30:05.000 Yes, we do.

00:30:06.000 Coming up next.

00:30:06.000 How are you, Patriot?

00:30:07.000 With a zero, I'm assuming.

00:30:09.000 Or a capital O. It looks like a zero, though.

00:30:11.000 It's a zero.

00:30:12.000 Cool.

00:30:13.000 Okay.

00:30:13.000 Wasn't sure.

00:30:14.000 How are you, bro?

00:30:16.000 Hi, guys.

00:30:16.000 How you doing?

00:30:17.000 Undistinguished lady. 0.58

00:30:18.000 Good.

00:30:19.000 All good.

00:30:19.000 Thanks for asking.

00:30:20.000 Thanks.

00:30:22.000 What's happening, man?

00:30:23.000 Like the call before, my state of PA is pretty much going the same way as Illinois, so I can feel for him.

00:30:30.000 Even in the middle?

00:30:31.000 I thought just on the edges.

00:30:35.000 Yeah.

00:30:36.000 Yeah.

00:30:36.000 It's the eastern.

00:30:37.000 It's the eastern portion in Pittsburgh.

00:30:40.000 Well, I mean, West Virginia's right there.

00:30:42.000 West Virginia's calling.

00:30:43.000 Country roads.

00:30:44.000 Yeah, man.

00:30:45.000 It's pretty close.

00:30:46.000 Yep.

00:30:46.000 You got to drive through that awful strip of Maryland, though.

00:30:49.000 But, you know, then you make it.

00:30:51.000 And it's pretty good.

00:30:56.000 What's your question, caller?

00:30:58.000 What's going on?

00:30:59.000 I think we still got a handyman in here.

00:31:03.000 No, just you.

00:31:04.000 No, we don't.

00:31:05.000 Thanks for checking me though.

00:31:06.000 No, but we don't have him.

00:31:07.000 It's just you.

00:31:08.000 Oh, there isn't?

00:31:08.000 No, no, no.

00:31:09.000 It's just you.

00:31:09.000 What's up?

00:31:10.000 Oh, okay.

00:31:10.000 I could hear somebody else.

00:31:13.000 So my question actually was, how do we convince the Republicans, Conservatives, the disaffected, non-woke people?

00:31:20.000 How do we get them to stay peaceful after all this has been happening?

00:31:24.000 Because a lot of them are getting tired of being beat down.

00:31:28.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:31:29.000 That's one of the things I was talking to Charlie about earlier.

00:31:31.000 It's like...

00:31:33.000 You know, he was saying that we have a lot of pull in making sure people stay calm and remain calm.

00:31:37.000 We need to.

00:31:38.000 And I agree we need to, because they want the violence so they can weaponize it.

00:31:42.000 That's correct.

00:31:43.000 But I don't know how... But if people are losing it because they're angry and they've lost faith, it's like, you can... I don't know, man.

00:31:50.000 So how do we keep people peaceful?

00:31:52.000 Those of us that have platforms have a moral obligation to continue to communicate a pursuit of dialogue and speech as the answer.

00:32:02.000 I disagree a little bit with what Tim said.

00:32:03.000 You said that if they remanded him, we would go to a civil war.

00:32:06.000 I don't agree with that.

00:32:07.000 I think we have—Americans are actually really reluctant to go to a full-blown civil war.

00:32:12.000 I think that has been a pattern we've seen.

00:32:14.000 I mean, if COVID didn't bring us to that, then I don't think remanding Donald Trump would.

00:32:18.000 Do I think there would be rolling Trump riots?

00:32:20.000 Maybe.

00:32:21.000 I'm not saying riots.

00:32:22.000 I'm saying we go to civil war because confidence in law enforcement wouldn't exist anymore, and that would be the point at which— It's too many speculative steps for me, but you could be right. 1.00

00:32:31.000 I think once confidence in the system is shattered, and we've already seen it without Donald Trump, the snowball has already started rolling down the hill with these videos of people rampaging through grocery stores and through department stores, stealing whatever they want.

00:32:43.000 Just like the garbage bag people?

00:32:45.000 Exactly.

00:32:45.000 That pisses me off.

00:32:45.000 Yeah.

00:32:48.000 Confidence in government is, a person knows in their heart, if they do something like that, they go to prison.

00:32:54.000 But now no one believes that.

00:32:56.000 When you see a video of a person with a garbage bag loading up at a store, they are telling you, there is no order to the system.

00:33:03.000 If Donald Trump goes- It's worse than that, I'll tell you what in a second.

00:33:06.000 But if Donald Trump gets remanded, or this escalates, the right will no longer believe the same thing.

00:33:12.000 It's worse.

00:33:13.000 It's Sam Francis' term, anarcho-tyranny, where it's one of the great essays ever written, and he was kind of blacklisted for years, and it's too bad because it's a fabulous essay.

00:33:23.000 We're living through what he really foresaw and he prophesied, which is anarchy in the streets of the order of society, tyranny on the petty political stuff.

00:33:34.000 I believe that still in the states that we have the opportunity if many of the states band together and try and curtail the federal power anyway, we still have that within our legislatures.

00:33:47.000 Even in my state, we're still at 50-50.

00:33:51.000 Without the governorship and our state has mechanisms that the legislature can use if they gain just a little more power from one side for constitutional amendments and things like that.

00:34:00.000 But the southern states have even better opportunities.

00:34:03.000 But once those checks and balances fail, I don't think we're going to be

00:34:09.000 able to hold that many people back anymore. And the final thing that I'll say that

00:34:12.000 we didn't really touch on as much in this whole program, we talked very

00:34:16.000 briefly, is you just have to be really focused on what you are doing. Your own moral

00:34:21.000 action, your life journey towards the pursuit of the good. Are you getting

00:34:26.000 Are you having children?

00:34:26.000 married?

00:34:27.000 Are you working?

00:34:28.000 Are you earning?

00:34:28.000 Are you doing things that reflect eternal purposes?

00:34:33.000 A lot of the politics stuff is so incredibly frustrating, I'll be honest, and even those of us that talk about it all day long, you have to always ask yourself the question, am I becoming a stronger person?

00:34:42.000 Am I reading more?

00:34:43.000 Am I becoming more knowledgeable?

00:34:44.000 Am I becoming wiser?

00:34:45.000 Am I diving deeper?

00:34:46.000 Am I developing spiritually?

00:34:49.000 Am I maturing in other ways?

00:34:51.000 I think you would agree, Tim.

00:34:52.000 That is actually what will save the country and save yourself.

00:34:55.000 If you just think it's a political salvation, I think that's dangerous.

00:34:59.000 That's what I keep saying.

00:35:00.000 It's not that people became radicalized.

00:35:02.000 It's that children were radicalized already and they're growing up and we're seeing their influence as adults.

00:35:07.000 Yes, that's been a huge deal.

00:35:08.000 If you get away from cities, homeschool your kids, have a bunch of kids, make money... We're gonna homeschool, yeah.

00:35:13.000 Then, in 20 years, there won't be a conflict because your kids will be the ones running the entire machine.

00:35:20.000 Become self-sufficient.

00:35:21.000 You have to.

00:35:21.000 You gotta buy land.

00:35:22.000 You gotta get out of the cities.

00:35:23.000 You have to build community.

00:35:26.000 I believe, join a church or a synagogue or whatever.

00:35:29.000 You have to teach your kids self-sufficiency as well.

00:35:31.000 Yes.

00:35:31.000 Teach them how to be reliant.

00:35:33.000 I agree.

00:35:33.000 I mean, one of the, yeah, like one of the things I'm always telling my son is, you know, you're going to grow up to be a resilient and strong and capable man who takes care of himself and the people that he loves.

00:35:44.000 Like I just, that's the expectation.

00:35:46.000 The expectation doesn't like about his job or his influence or anything else.

00:35:49.000 The expectation is that he will be a good and strong man.

00:35:53.000 Amen.

00:35:53.000 Yeah, right on, man.

00:35:54.000 I love the purpose, having purpose.

00:35:56.000 When I get disillusioned and think like that, I think about the space elevator and how I have to build one.

00:36:02.000 I have to be a part of this process.

00:36:04.000 That just gives me something else to focus on, other than anger.

00:36:06.000 Space elevator is good, I suppose.

00:36:08.000 The Greeks had a great word for purpose.

00:36:09.000 It's called telos.

00:36:10.000 We get the word telescope from it, which means far out in the distance, that which we aim for.

00:36:15.000 Everyone needs to think about what is your telos.

00:36:17.000 All right, we should definitely jump on to the next call, though.

00:36:20.000 So Patriot, thanks so much for hanging out.

00:36:22.000 Thank you, guys.

00:36:23.000 Have a good one, man.

00:36:25.000 You too.

00:36:26.000 Cheers.

00:36:27.000 Last, of course, we have Redimir Sol.

00:36:30.000 I believe that is how you say it.

00:36:32.000 How are you?

00:36:33.000 I can't tell if you're female or male.

00:36:35.000 No idea.

00:36:36.000 I'm a guy.

00:36:38.000 What's up?

00:36:38.000 How you doing?

00:36:40.000 I'm doing well.

00:36:40.000 How are you?

00:36:41.000 Just chilling, man.

00:36:42.000 Chilling.

00:36:43.000 All right, first shout out to Charlie.

00:36:45.000 I grew up in Arizona, grew up in Buckeye.

00:36:48.000 Oh, awesome.

00:36:49.000 Great state.

00:36:51.000 Yeah, I moved here a sophomore year to Tennessee, where I live now, and I was actually at an early Easter dinner on Sunday, and I was talking to my fiancé's brother, who's a police officer in Hendersonville, which is the city right next to Nashville, and he was telling me that they got an intel briefing about the I've heard this from three or four sources too.

00:37:18.000 You've heard this already?

00:37:20.000 I've been careful to say it publicly.

00:37:21.000 No, continue, it's my fault, please. 0.92

00:37:23.000 in there, stuff like, you know, Christians are committing a transgenocide. 0.96

00:37:27.000 Whoa. 0.90

00:37:28.000 This is not any way to fight back.

00:37:29.000 I've heard this from three or four sources, too.

00:37:31.000 You've heard this already?

00:37:32.000 I've been careful to say it publicly.

00:37:35.000 No, continue, it's my fault, please.

00:37:37.000 It's very important.

00:37:38.000 Yeah, just that the Nashville DA and mayor are very left-leaning, and they're doing their

00:37:45.000 best to not get it released because of what they think the optics are going to be afterwards.

00:37:51.000 And my question, because I'm very dissatisfied with our representation here, Blackburn especially.

00:37:57.000 I actually called their office about robbing Starbucks.

00:38:00.000 I didn't get a reply.

00:38:01.000 But what can we do to put pressure, like y'all over here, wire us as individuals to put pressure on the state to try to get this released?

00:38:12.000 Could do like a Freedom of Information Act type request, the state level ones?

00:38:16.000 That's an interesting, yeah.

00:38:17.000 I mean, it's very, I think it's simple.

00:38:19.000 I think, not simple, but I think one of the victim's families just has to sue if we don't get it anytime soon.

00:38:25.000 Yeah.

00:38:25.000 And they will probably get it.

00:38:27.000 And so.

00:38:28.000 They said they're going to release it.

00:38:29.000 The FBI did?

00:38:31.000 Yeah, after they complete a profile.

00:38:32.000 Wait, so why does the FBI have jurisdiction if they haven't opened a hate crime investigation?

00:38:37.000 Why has no one asked that question?

00:38:37.000 Right.

00:38:39.000 I think you just did.

00:38:40.000 I didn't ask because I didn't know.

00:38:42.000 I don't know the technicals about it.

00:38:43.000 Well, the FBI doesn't have jurisdiction over- It's a local crime.

00:38:47.000 It's a local crime unless there's a hate crime.

00:38:50.000 But what was weird is, that's interesting, because the Nashville police said that they would release it after the FBI did a review.

00:38:55.000 Yeah, so somebody- So why is the FBI doing a review?

00:38:57.000 Somebody in DC knew what this was.

00:38:59.000 Here's my guess, and it's a speculation.

00:39:01.000 I was wrong about Maggie Haberman, so I could be wrong about this.

00:39:04.000 But here's my guess.

00:39:05.000 You have to finish that water.

00:39:06.000 Yeah, and I'm going to.

00:39:08.000 My guess is that they were tracking and communicating with this girl on Discord or one of the chat servers.

00:39:14.000 Radicalizing?

00:39:15.000 They do say that she was planning it for months.

00:39:17.000 Maybe, but I think they had her spotted.

00:39:19.000 I think they had her on a list.

00:39:21.000 And my very dark, I hope I'm wrong theory, please pray I'm wrong, is that this got mucked up in the bureaucracy because she was a trans person.

00:39:29.000 So do you think this would then be a hate crime, so that's why they're trying to keep it on federal law?

00:39:33.000 Well, it would be.

00:39:35.000 They're resisting a hate crime call, because then that would then justify a narrative they don't like, which is that Christians are being slaughtered, because hate crimes against Christians are not exactly in vogue right now.

00:39:49.000 No, very much so.

00:39:51.000 Have there been any American hate crimes against Christians?

00:39:54.000 Well, they're all the time.

00:39:55.000 Right, but I mean, has it been prosecuted like that?

00:39:57.000 I'm sure there has been. 0.90

00:39:59.000 Most of it's against Muslims or blacks. 0.57

00:40:01.000 Well, because hate crimes themselves, it's only a relatively recent crime designation. 0.95

00:40:05.000 It's a recent phenomenon, yeah.

00:40:08.000 And also to prosecute a hate crime is a much higher standard.

00:40:11.000 Yeah, you have to have total intent.

00:40:13.000 Right.

00:40:13.000 If I could, I do remember, I don't know if this happened, I doubt it, in the United States, but I remember seeing stories about Canada and the UK about people burning churches down.

00:40:25.000 Yeah, in Canada, that's a whole big thing in Canada.

00:40:28.000 Yeah, no one got charged with a hate crime for the burning of St.

00:40:30.000 John's Church outside of the White House.

00:40:33.000 I think they lied about Notre Dame.

00:40:35.000 Do you think it was the Islamic?

00:40:38.000 I don't know about that, I'm just saying, what did they say, like a cigarette was lit or something?

00:40:44.000 And I'm like, we're seeing waves of churches get burned down.

00:40:48.000 I don't know who's doing it, but I don't want to blame, you know, Islam.

00:40:53.000 I blame the left.

00:40:54.000 Like, if I was gonna have a conspiracy theory, it would be that leftists are the ones doing it.

00:40:58.000 But I don't know for sure.

00:40:59.000 All I know is if there's a bunch of churches starting on fire, and then Notre Dame starts on fire, my immediate assumption isn't another accident happened.

00:41:08.000 Super quick, if I could, my phone is about to die, but I have a request for y'all.

00:41:16.000 So, I haven't heard this talked about too much exactly, but there's this whole, you know, what people are talking about, a wave of anti-Semitism and whatnot, and what I've noticed, and I ask this of y'all because I know that you've had We have.

00:41:33.000 Jesus on before? We have. I've seen it's pretty prevalent in the rap community and he has a lot of videos

00:41:39.000 pushing the idea that black people are the real Jews and the whole black Hebrew

00:41:46.000 Israelite ideology and it's Growing and growing and growing from what I've noticed. 0.96

00:41:51.000 Yeah He's been on all these people's shows and nobody's asked

00:41:55.000 him about it We're not allowed to.

00:41:56.000 I'm pretty sure that's what Kanye started getting into.

00:41:59.000 We'll get banned from YouTube in two seconds.

00:42:01.000 You can't ask somebody about their views?

00:42:01.000 Oh, is that right?

00:42:03.000 If Hotep Jesus starts talking, this is what YouTube protects.

00:42:08.000 This is what YouTube protects, this is what Twitter protects, this is what Facebook protects.

00:42:11.000 It's a cross-examination of bad ideas.

00:42:15.000 Not that, I'm not super familiar with Hotep Jesus on this one. 0.57

00:42:18.000 That, so that I'll own up to.

00:42:20.000 And maybe we should know that if that's what he's pushing.

00:42:22.000 Cause I would absolutely push him out on this.

00:42:23.000 There's a bunch of videos of him talking about it.

00:42:26.000 There are quite a few.

00:42:27.000 Yeah, cause I didn't know that.

00:42:28.000 I never get really offended.

00:42:28.000 I know that he was like inching towards it last time I was in the show.

00:42:31.000 And I was like, what's he trying to get at here?

00:42:32.000 Like, I didn't know that he, but my point is this.

00:42:35.000 The most, it drives me absolutely fucking insane that YouTube protects people

00:42:41.000 who have the most abhorrent views.

00:42:42.000 Because if I challenge them, YouTube will ban us.

00:42:45.000 Yeah.

00:42:46.000 They let them be.

00:42:47.000 I appreciate the clarity on that.

00:42:50.000 Like Kanye obviously I pushed back on.

00:42:52.000 In reference to Hodeb Jesus, I did not know he held those views.

00:42:55.000 I don't even find him that offensive.

00:42:57.000 Like Kanye, obviously I pushed back on him. 0.99

00:42:59.000 If there were black people that are descended from Israelites, fuck that's cool. 1.00

00:43:02.000 Well there's the 12 tribes. 0.99

00:43:04.000 Yeah, Levi's one of them, Judah was one of them, and the Jews came from Judah's tribe. 0.63

00:43:08.000 Judah sold his brother into slavery.

00:43:10.000 He was the one that sold Joseph into slavery. 0.77

00:43:13.000 Interesting.

00:43:13.000 But you know what's fascinating about being—the fascinating part to me about Joseph being sold into slavery is that if Joseph wasn't sold into slavery, the Israelites all would have starved to death in that famine.

00:43:24.000 He wouldn't have gone to Egypt, and then his brothers wouldn't have come back for Right, because he ended up going to Egypt, he ended up getting very powerful, and so when his brothers came to, like, look for food in Egypt, he was able to give it to them.

00:43:36.000 That's right, and there's this long dialogue in four or five chapters where they don't even know it's him.

00:43:39.000 It's fascinating.

00:43:40.000 He decides not to tell them.

00:43:41.000 Yes, that's right.

00:43:42.000 It's very dramatic.

00:43:43.000 And he's not sure what to do.

00:43:44.000 Yeah, and they're weeping, and it's unbelievably beautifully written.

00:43:47.000 The people, so it was Joseph?

00:43:49.000 Well, so Joseph had 11 brothers.

00:43:51.000 He was the youngest, right?

00:43:52.000 So Joseph could interpret dreams, and it wasn't him.

00:43:54.000 It was God interpreting dreams through him.

00:43:56.000 He was very clear about that.

00:43:57.000 And he was the favorite of Yaakov, Jacob, Israel, right?

00:44:01.000 And it says in the original Hebrew, he was a child of Jacob's old age, which means it was just, he was a child of delight.

00:44:08.000 He just found a lot of joy in him.

00:44:10.000 And he had favoritism towards Joseph.

00:44:12.000 Gave him this really nice jacket.

00:44:14.000 Nice jacket.

00:44:15.000 Like a grandfather.

00:44:15.000 Yeah.

00:44:16.000 So then his brothers basically plod and be like, we're taking this guy on the road

00:44:19.000 and threw him into a ditch.

00:44:21.000 And then basically didn't know what was going to happen of him.

00:44:24.000 They lied, obviously, to his father.

00:44:26.000 They said, oh, something happened to him.

00:44:27.000 And he got then sold into slavery to Egypt, got into the throne of the prison in Egypt,

00:44:31.000 won favor by interpreting dreams in Egypt, grew close to Pharaoh.

00:44:35.000 And then he basically has a dream about a famine, predicts the famine, makes Egypt survive. 0.93

00:44:40.000 Wow.

00:44:40.000 And then his 11, his 10 brothers, because there's one brother that was missing that I think was Benjamin.

00:44:46.000 Yeah, and Benjamin was the same brother as his mother.

00:44:49.000 The rest of the brothers were his half-brothers.

00:44:49.000 That's right.

00:44:51.000 Yeah, were 10 half-brothers.

00:44:52.000 They come back, and the book of Genesis basically ends with Joseph and his brothers basically taking over the Egyptian government.

00:45:00.000 And Pharaoh was really cool, and then the turning point verse in the Torah is in Exodus 1-7 where it says, and then a king came over Egypt who did not know Joseph.

00:45:08.000 It was a bad pharaoh who showed up. 1.00

00:45:09.000 Yeah, basically it's like we forgot about what Joseph did for us.

00:45:13.000 But don't forget, Joseph was metooed before he ended up in Pharaoh's palace.

00:45:16.000 He was falsely accused for sleeping and trying to commit adultery with Pharaoh's wife.

00:45:16.000 That's right.

00:45:22.000 No, it was like the soldier guy.

00:45:25.000 Remember?

00:45:25.000 It wasn't Pharaoh yet.

00:45:26.000 Oh, is that right?

00:45:27.000 He was in the house of like the guard No, you're right.

00:45:30.000 And the guard's wife was hot for him.

00:45:34.000 You're right.

00:45:35.000 It actually goes out of its way to say Joseph was a good-looking man in the Hebrew.

00:45:39.000 What a life.

00:45:40.000 He was a stud.

00:45:42.000 So he ended up getting me too.

00:45:44.000 That's when he got thrown into prison.

00:45:45.000 And then he interpreted the dreams.

00:45:47.000 Yeah, I skipped over that part.

00:45:48.000 I just always think that's interesting.

00:45:50.000 But the claim of the anti-Semitism, though, is that they think that the line of Judah, which is actually where you get the word Jew, is a false line, and that basically they're calling all the Jews liars.

00:46:02.000 And so that is a rather anti-Semitic belief.

00:46:05.000 That's to complete the point.

00:46:07.000 We are just about nearing end of time, so want to make sure if you have anything else you want to add.

00:46:14.000 Nothing, just that I've been watching y'all since I was 16, 23 now.

00:46:18.000 I have a kid.

00:46:20.000 Really appreciate the work that you guys are doing.

00:46:24.000 And Ian, I love you, but sometimes you piss me off.

00:46:28.000 Welcome to my world, man.

00:46:29.000 That's how my mind thinks about myself.

00:46:31.000 Right on, man.

00:46:32.000 Thanks for calling in, dude.

00:46:33.000 Thanks for being a member.

00:46:33.000 Really appreciate it.

00:46:34.000 Make videos, too.

00:46:35.000 You're inspirational.

00:46:36.000 And next time you come to Nashville, come and see, do a fan meet-up or something.

00:46:39.000 I took off work to go to the Redneck Riviera. 0.81

00:46:42.000 Didn't end up happening. 1.00

00:46:44.000 I said, fuck these guys. 1.00

00:46:44.000 I was going to do it. 1.00

00:46:46.000 But they said to me, there are kids here walking around.

00:46:49.000 If someone does show up, you're putting them in danger.

00:46:52.000 And I was like, okay, man, I can't do it.

00:46:53.000 I would love to do like a heavily secured show.

00:46:55.000 Yeah, I've got family in West Virginia.

00:46:56.000 So I hope to figure it out, man.

00:46:58.000 Yeah, dude, the club, once we have it up and running, it's going to be lit.

00:47:00.000 All right, man.

00:47:01.000 Thanks for calling in.

00:47:02.000 Cheers.

00:47:02.000 Absolutely.

00:47:03.000 Thank you, guys.

00:47:04.000 And we'll wind things up.

00:47:06.000 Went a little bit longer than I wanted to because I know you've got to bounce, Charlie, but thanks for hanging out.

00:47:09.000 I love hanging out with you guys.

00:47:10.000 Really special thing you've gone.

00:47:12.000 I love the religion talk.

00:47:13.000 That was absolutely fascinating.

00:47:14.000 Oh, thank you.

00:47:15.000 Yeah, absolutely. 0.98

00:47:16.000 And I'm not saying that the Spanish Inquisition shits on Christianity.

00:47:19.000 I'm just saying that consolidating the power of religion in one place can allow for things like the Spanish Inquisition. 0.75

00:47:24.000 I agree with that.

00:47:24.000 That's why I believe in the small d democratization of the word.

00:47:28.000 More people reading the word, the better the world.

00:47:31.000 Alright, man.

00:47:32.000 Thanks for hanging out with us, Charlie, and for everybody who's a member, seriously.

00:47:34.000 God bless.

00:47:35.000 Thank you all so much. 0.98

00:47:36.000 I can't tell you how excited I am for this poker club, because I was talking shit. 0.89

00:47:41.000 I got really pissed off Saturday. 0.99

00:47:42.000 Basically... I'm gonna build my own!

00:47:45.000 Exactly!

00:47:46.000 The long story short of it is...

00:47:48.000 I- I- I hang out at this local casino all the time in the poker room and at the table games.

00:47:52.000 It's a- it's a one-two game.

00:47:54.000 It's a $300- $60 to $300 buy-in.

00:47:56.000 I like to buy it at the bottom at 60 bucks and just see if I can earn my way up.

00:47:59.000 Some days I do really well.

00:48:00.000 I basically do- do well enough.

00:48:02.000 And some guy got mad that I beat him. 1.00

00:48:04.000 Started talking insane shit. 0.99

00:48:05.000 They wouldn't do anything about it, and I'm like... 1.00

00:48:08.000 I'm going to make my own poker club.

00:48:10.000 And we're going to make our elite social club.

00:48:12.000 And it's going to be close by.

00:48:13.000 And we're going to attract all the cool people.

00:48:15.000 I'm going to come hang out all the time.

00:48:16.000 And it's going to be fun.

00:48:17.000 So that's what we're doing.

00:48:18.000 And I hope to see you all there.

00:48:19.000 So thanks for hanging out.

00:48:20.000 The floor plan has just been drawn up.

00:48:22.000 They're doing plumbing on the first floor.

00:48:24.000 We have one of the tables for the games already under construction.

00:48:27.000 I'm talking with local government about what we need to do to get a license.

00:48:30.000 It is happening.

00:48:31.000 Thanks for hanging out.

00:48:32.000 We'll see you all next time.

00:48:33.000 Happy Easter.

00:48:33.000 Thanks, guys.

00:48:37.000 Hi!

00:48:38.000 Hi there!

00:48:39.000 We're going out to present to our customers tomorrow.

00:48:42.000 Yes!

00:48:42.000 How do we do it?

00:48:43.000 But what about transport?

00:48:45.000 We don't have our own cars anymore.

00:48:48.000 You can just hire.

00:48:50.000 You can just hire?

00:48:51.000 Then they get access to hundreds of cars, while the company cuts costs.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - April 09, 2023

Sunday Uncensored: Charlie Kirk Members Only Podcast

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