Boeing whistleblower John Barnett has been found dead, and conspiracy theories abound as to who killed him. Also, why millennials are not allowed to assume power in this country, and why it s a good thing.
00:00:31.000Boeing whistleblower John Barnett's warning over aviation giants flagship 787 Dreamliner and 737 Max weeks before he was found dead as FAA reveals company failed 33 of 89 audits and used Dawn soap for lubricant.
00:00:50.000And we were talking, so here's the story.
00:00:52.000This guy was found dead and people are all tweeting out Arkansas as if to imply, I guess, I don't know, like Boeing had him killed or the Clintons.
00:00:59.000The Clintons, because they're from Arkansas.
00:01:01.000But I don't think they're literally saying Hillary Clinton killed a Boeing whistleblower, but they're saying Arkansas as if to imply it's an assassination or whatever.
00:01:09.000You know what I think is the bigger story here?
00:01:10.000Look, we're not going to know if this guy was assassinated, but we'll take a look.
00:01:26.000I think what we're seeing with Boeing, it's not just the DEI stuff.
00:01:30.000People are talking about diversity and all this shit.
00:01:32.000It's resulting in like low quality products.
00:01:34.000I think it's actually an artifact of Uh, boomers retaining power and refusing to transfer it.
00:01:41.000We talked about this a bit on the main show, but I do think that is largely it.
00:01:47.000That it's circular, but you infantilize a younger generation, you get infants.
00:01:54.000And then, because they're infantilized and acting like infants, you continue to treat the rest of them like infants, perpetuating the cycle of only we can be in charge.
00:02:35.000And you want to say, but who, who put, put us in this position?
00:02:38.000Why are millennials in this trap where they are not allowed to assume power, but also all, all of the resources that are needed to sort of get the app to step towards leadership in this country are withheld from them.
00:02:50.000It's kind of part of, like, the pandemic, too, and everyone just stopping doing their jobs correctly.
00:02:55.000Well, kind of both, but I mean, I'm not saying only, but I'm saying a lot of people have just kind of, like, checked out, you know, and a lot of positions in, like, if you go to a restaurant, the rest of the waiters that are just kind of like, eh, like, whatever, I could care less.
00:03:06.000I don't know if that's the exact reason for this.
00:03:07.000Imagine if they're all building the airplanes over Zoom.
00:03:10.000They're not even in the room, they're just like, who cares?
00:03:12.000Tell the robot to put the dawn over there.
00:03:15.000No, but I think part of it is, it's, I think that apathy was high during the pandemic, but I think there was a disengagement from typical societal functions before that.
00:03:24.000But it makes, to me, we were talking about the boomers before, I think a lot about the boomer feminists during this who told women, you know, put off having kids.
00:03:37.000Like, there's a level of cynicism and selfishness that was sown by an older generation who maybe they had good intentions with, like, women's lib or whatever.
00:03:48.000They ultimately created a group of people who were saying, I don't want to participate in a society that works on collaborative growth, a.k.a.
00:03:56.000having families, joining your school board, you know, participating in whatever, in volunteer organizations or churches, whatever you are interested in.
00:04:04.000Instead, it said, well, you should focus on the self entirely, and in fact, you should expect others to accommodate the self at all times.
00:04:12.000You know, there was this guy called Dan Patrick, who's the Lieutenant Governor of Texas, and he appeared on Carlson's program in May of 2020, and he put forward the idea that basically his generation should just Take the hit.
00:04:28.000You know, I mean, we should end the lockdown.
00:04:30.000Um, and, you know, we, we, this is essentially for our benefit.
00:04:34.000And he was, he was, he was viewed as a, as a, as a crank.
00:05:34.000He just, you know, it's funny because people, like, try to roast him saying that, like, he works for me and, like, Phil literally shows up whenever he feels like it.
00:05:40.000I don't even know when he's here or is not.
00:06:01.000They have a new skateboarding video game for that.
00:06:06.000It's a complex subject, which is not a very interesting answer.
00:06:09.000And the reality is there are a lot of great baby boomers.
00:06:14.000But it's just, it's hard to make an argument that, and I think generational warfare turns a lot of people off, the language of it, and understandably so.
00:06:22.000But I just, if you don't think this country has gotten worse in the last 40 or 50 years, like, I'm just not really sure that we're seeing the same reality.
00:06:30.000And you're right about- Real quick, just to clarify people who are asking, Phil- Phil is not an employee of TeamCast, I'll put it that way.
00:06:39.000Phil is a consultant and recurring guest host, and we have an arrangement with him that is- It's not an employment arrangement, it's a contract arrangement.
00:06:47.000What you're saying about the older class thing in power is going to be even crazier thinking about when I went home for Thanksgiving in New York, talking to a lot of friends who are still teachers.
00:06:56.000I was a professor for a while and I'm talking to professors and middle school and elementary school teacher teachers.
00:07:02.000They're like, all of our kids are four, four years behind.
00:07:05.000Like they're, they're supposed to be freshmen in college.
00:07:08.000They're like a freshman or a sophomore in high school.
00:07:10.000Just cause like the education was totally halted and zoom did nothing.
00:07:21.000But now, like, you know, that delay in their development, plus what you're talking about with the older people staying in power, it's gonna rip society apart.
00:07:30.000You know, I've probably told this story a couple times on the show, but I remember when I was 20.
00:07:40.000I briefly took like two college credits or whatever.
00:07:43.000And the idea was I dropped out of high school, but in order to get a job, you need a high school diploma, but I'm smarter than these people.
00:07:49.000So I took a couple of college credits.
00:07:52.000I think I did yoga, theater acting, and criminal justice.
00:07:57.000And then I dropped the yoga because I was like, this is a waste of my time.
00:08:01.000But then on every application after that, I would put some college.
00:08:04.000And the assumption is if you have some college, you've got a high school diploma.
00:08:07.000My friends who applied for jobs, they would say... You do not need a high school degree to... To go to community college, you do not need a high school degree.
00:10:59.000I would tell all my friends, I'm like, look man, why is it that all of the pro baseball players are playing baseball since they were four years old?
00:11:06.000Why is it that all the pro football players are playing football since they were four years old?
00:12:03.000I was learning basic instruments, learning like the basics of music, Playing chess when I was three, not that I was actually playing chess, but like learning how to move pieces and generally understanding the game.
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00:13:44.000And I forgot what happened, but, you know, one day she said that to me, because my mom would give us vocabulary tests, and she would homeschool us all the time.
00:14:10.000I think early like I mean this is something doesn't Jordan Peterson talk about this that you only really get the zero through four years once and they're extremely fundamental and so it is worth sacrificing to be present with your children at that time and I think I mean this is something that came up in the State of Union too.
00:14:25.000Biden cited that study that says children who are read to at home and they get books and things like that they go they enter school with a million more words than the average kindergartner.
00:15:23.000Other parents were probably giving them, and our son has a screen every now and then, but other, I saw a lot of parents, the screen became a parent.
00:16:46.000They're singing a song called Finger Family because the algorithm was feeding these videos to hundreds of millions of views.
00:16:52.000These people were making shitloads of money because parents would put the iPad in front of the baby and press play on a real Finger Family song.
00:17:03.000So the algorithm—look, this has got 557 million views.
00:17:23.000When people in India found out the algorithm was feeding this, they made those ridiculous videos with Hitler and like there's one where- Is this India driven?
00:17:32.000That one particular video seemed to be from India or perhaps Indonesia or something like that.
00:17:47.000Yeah, sticking needles in children, and children drinking urine out of urinals.
00:17:52.000Because the parents put the iPad in front of the baby and press play, and the algorithm would just autoplay, whatever, and the babies are just staring at it.
00:17:59.000We are going to have one fucked up post-alpha generation.
00:18:02.000Whatever comes after Generation Alpha is going to be a bunch of- What is that going to be called, do we know?
00:19:37.000So what happens is, you get Looney Tunes, and it's social emergence, represses anybody, so you have to be born in the 40s and 50s, not the parents, it's not like some guy who's in his 30s watches Looney Tunes and then goes, I must dress like a rabbit!
00:19:53.000Those kids watch it, but when those kids grow up, there is no community of people who do this, and so they might have an affinity for it, it's suppressed by society.
00:20:02.000But as time goes on, especially into the era of the internet, and with the expansion of these shows, there's Animaniacs, there's Tiny Toons, there's fuck-tons of shows with anthropomorphized cartoon animals, You end up with people with an affinity or an identity related to this and they go online and they can text with no one seeing their face and they can build a community around it.
00:20:23.000Now you start to see the emergence of all of these degenerate subcultures where people normally would be suppressed by the greater society out of fear of, I don't know, starvation.
00:20:34.000Now they're like, holy shit, there's a ton of people who will allow me to do this thing, and they will all one-up each other.
00:20:41.000Every time one person engages in it and produces more content, it expands it, creating more and more and more of it.
00:20:48.000It's only possible thanks to the internet, and arguably the phone, too.
00:20:55.000When people were able to... You take a look at early Christianity, the idea of the fish symbol.
00:21:01.000You weren't allowed to be a Christian, you'd be killed.
00:21:03.000So they would draw a line in the sand, the other person would draw the other line forming the fish, and you knew you were now among a Christian.
00:21:12.000It's like a political idea and a religious idea and a faith idea.
00:21:15.000But when you get to the point where it's like pedophiles putting symbols on doors and stuff, and now what's happening on the internet, pedophiles have secret meetings, they're trying to expand, gain power, and they're trying to normalize their behavior.
00:21:25.000Human society today, American society, tolerates some forms of this degenerate behavior to a degree until it starts spilling over.
00:21:33.000Case in point, you end up with like, dude, If you dress up in a fursuit 50, 60 years ago, you'd be attacked.
00:21:41.000And there likely could be a guy in the crowd who really liked what you were doing, but knew, I'd rather be on this side than that side.
00:21:47.000Now with the internet, people in these subcultures are forming communities, and they're protecting each other, and now they're forming voting blocks, and they're creating conventions.
00:21:55.000The one that's having the hardest time, for good reason, are pedophiles.
00:21:59.000But clearly they're gaining tons of traction in schools and claiming that it's all about just sex education.
00:22:05.000But you can see how they're trying to normalize this stuff.
00:22:46.000I had a question for everybody and I wanted to kind of touch back to the Rome episode that you guys did on the culture war.
00:22:56.000So I know that we rightfully often get mad at the neocon Republicans for doing nothing.
00:23:03.000However, Is it possible that they are merely adopting the Fabian strategy first used famously against Hannibal when he invaded Italy, whereby you don't directly go against your foe, but you instead kind of try to fight them in small groups, that sort of thing, while kind of evading the main force, instead of interacting head-on, to kind of play devil's advocate for it.
00:23:31.000The Left desperately needs the Right to overreact to get the Casus Belli, but they need to do a ton of the crazy far-Left stuff, like banning guns, that sort of thing.
00:23:40.000And so far, we've managed to kind of avoid being provoked in such a way that it kind of, like, gives them that Casus Belli.
00:23:48.000So, is this tactical decision-making, or just cowardice and stupidity on the part of the Yukons?
00:23:59.000I, um, I certainly don't think there's a viable path forward that involves violence.
00:24:05.000Maybe there's a conversation to be had later on in the future when other, like people always ask like, what point, you know, at what point do you grab your guns or whatever?
00:24:13.000I'm like, I don't know, like the Holocaust.
00:24:16.000I, I, I, I'm not an expert on, on that line, but I certainly don't see it right now.
00:24:21.000If we get to the point where Joe Biden gets an army of, like, black-shirted Antifa guys and gives them government authority and they go around murdering, you know, people or whatever.
00:24:29.000There's an argument they've had about self-defense or something.
00:24:31.000But my point is, conservatives don't fight at all.
00:24:34.000Like, neocons, conservatives are doing nothing to resist.
00:24:48.000I'm talking about kind of the do-nothing Republicans.
00:24:51.000You know, it seems like they'll take action on some small things here and there, but for the most part they generally just are completely absent from kind of leading the culture war.
00:25:02.000And you're asking why that's their posture?
00:25:05.000Yeah, again, playing devil's advocate, it's not actually my belief, but I hear it from my father and stuff like that.
00:25:15.000If they overreact, then it just gives more permission for people on the far left to So not to personalize it, but the figure of your father here is he's arguing that he's actually sage and savvy because he's more moderate and is unlikely to overreact and thus accordingly Republicans are more likely to win with his strategy versus the sort of young Turk approach of aggression is, while potentially well-meaning, foolhardy and reckless.
00:25:50.000I guess to put a finer point on it, his position would be that the left will continually devour
00:25:57.000and eat themselves, and so long as the right doesn't kind of engage in that same kind of level
00:26:02.000of violence and, you know, I guess overt action, they'll kind of be, you know, left by default.
00:26:10.000Yeah, I mean, look, I think it's certainly possible that, and it's happened, that the
00:26:17.000the right can overreact in a way that's highly counterproductive and lose elections.
00:26:21.000I do think, and I'm gathering this person is sort of older potentially and not just a boomer, to put too fine of a point on it, I think if you define left-wing as increasing state power in America and moving culture ever more to the left, the ratchet has been naturally in that direction.
00:26:41.000And it's not like Republicans were super overreacting, again, in this frame, 50s, 60s, 70s, 80s, 90s.
00:26:49.000So there's nothing particularly new about this.
00:26:51.000And, you know, there were left-wing victories galore without an overreaction.
00:27:01.000You got anything else to add to that, friend?
00:27:04.000No, I think that pretty much answers it for me.
00:28:14.000Are they really going to get what they want, though?
00:28:17.000I mean, if we want to operate under the assumption that Joe Biden is the strongest candidate, as Kurt was saying, then sure, impeach him, get rid of him.
00:28:28.000But I think many Democrats would be like, oh, wait, don't.
00:28:32.000Like Trump is beating Biden in the polls massively.
00:28:35.000I got, we got Gen Z siding with Donald Trump.
00:29:19.000I still don't think they have those vote- I mean, those house seats they won in, like, Southern California and in New York State, I'm not sure those people would vote.
00:29:28.000I mean, I don't want to entertain the argument, the merits of the case aside, that it actually would- I'll side more with the caller here, actually.
00:29:35.000I think it actually does make sense, politically, just if you were being totally immoral about it, to impeach him.
00:29:42.000Because there's conventional wisdom that if you don't impeach the president and he's not convicted, or you do impeach him and he's not convicted, that it actually hurts the impeaching party.
00:32:27.000So my question is, yes, so my question is basically, like, what can we do here to try and convince people that, like, do you want to end up like Haiti or do you want to end up like the Dominican Republic?
00:32:39.000You know, like, one island, two totally different countries.
00:32:43.000So that's my general question is, how can we convince the left and all these, these crazies that want to end up eating people?
00:32:51.000Or do you want to end up on a resort island?
00:33:02.000That tweet I put out where I said a vote for Democrats is a vote to make the United States like Haiti and a vote for Republicans is to vote to recover like El Salvador.
00:33:55.000And these, this nothing changed other than just crossing over a river, crossing the border.
00:34:00.000And this was, Ooh, I haven't been back in almost 10 years.
00:34:03.000It's kind of upsetting me because I've been trying to go back, but I keep running into Life problems that are stopping me, but yeah.
00:34:11.000Yeah, like people say, if you go on Google Earth and look, you can almost clearly see the border because one side's brown, the other side's green.
00:34:21.000And it's just, that country's totally been mismanaged, and you can tell.
00:35:16.000So nobody noticed it and I was just wondering, is that just like random, like whatever is like a necklace?
00:35:20.000It's like, no, there's this entire history of Freemasons in the Caribbean.
00:35:23.000Like it's, it's, it's like, that's like an actual, I've not seen a very well done piece about the linkage there.
00:35:30.000And you gotta remember that the Haiti concept is, the Haiti, uh, Dynamic is as old as this country itself the u.s.
00:35:35.000Had a revolution in 76 and and the the Haitians had a revolution 25 years later Yeah, yeah, I mean the u.s.
00:35:43.000Was extremely concerned about the precedent of a slave revolt yeah, and look obviously in no way a defense of the practice of slavery, but the Slave revolts themselves never worked.
00:35:59.000The French Revolution was bad, but on a per capita basis, the Haitian Revolution immediately descended into absolute nightmarish bloodshed.
00:36:08.000And there has been different periods that have been relatively more stable than others.
00:36:13.000Um, but we are again, just back in the abyss.
00:36:16.000I was looking at the Clinton, uh, influence over Haiti and it's just insane.
00:36:20.000I mean, uh, Bill Clinton made them basically destroy their crops to take all of like the crop of rice crops.
00:36:40.000He said it whatever this process was it helped farmers in Arkansas And I don't really know about that like beyond that but it never happened.
00:36:47.000It destroyed their crops I saw I saw a funny thing that that somebody said that uh They should install Claudine Gaye as the president of Haiti.
00:36:56.000You know, you know, you know that you ever had the the Mount Gaye rum?
00:37:12.000So the Bill Clinton and the Rice thing doesn't stop there.
00:37:13.000It's just like, then they, the Clinton foundation took over helping people out after the earthquake, totally destroyed that.
00:37:21.000Cause they sent all these trailers to help these people who are, you know, out of homes and the trailers are filled with formaldehyde, like dangerous levels and making people super sick.
00:37:31.000The same thing happened in her after Hurricane Katrina the same foundation through Clinton Foundation sent these bad trailers and then Hillary influenced a presidential election when she was ambassador went down there and helped one guy get elected and Everyone not everyone but a lot of people in Haiti believed there was lots of fraud fraudulent votes.
00:37:47.000It's a Haitian election Yeah, and then uh and then yeah, there's another thing there But I remember the funny thing when I was reading about was when the reconstruction was happening under Bill Clinton of Haiti He called it building back better Yeah, I think they forced out the Amistad guy for Bush, but it was definitely like, it was the beginning of the Bush-Clinton era.
00:38:19.000and of course Bill ran against each other in 92 and it was a very bitter campaign, but they became friends and thus accordingly the family became closer through the Haitian thing.
00:38:31.000Who knows if it's apocryphal, but like stuff like, you know, like they had like one hotel room and he let HW slept in the bed and Clintus slept on the floor.
00:38:49.000Unity to fix Haiti, but literally they were destroying it.
00:38:52.000There's a good, there's a good, um, There's a good piece to be written, I feel like, about does any of this sort of philanthropic industrial complex stuff even work?
00:39:03.000I mean, Haiti was like a sort of, you know, sort of virtue signaling thing for both sort of center-left democratic and secular types to do, but also sort of like even right-wing Christian types.
00:39:13.000Like, we're just like, send there, you take pictures of the, you know, sort of poor African American people and like, you know, like everybody feels good, they're getting drinking water, but it's like, if those are the only variables, like X, like Western Sympathy, pity, and why being the result.
00:40:00.000I remember an Uber driver in Florida telling me he was from Haiti and he was like, this is early on in Trump's presidency, he's like, I voted for Trump and I moved here because I want to be away from all Haitians.
00:40:12.000And at the time, I didn't really understand.
00:40:14.000He was not really joking, but he said it like a joke.
00:40:18.000But now looking back on that conversation, I'm like, no, that guy really didn't like Haiti and had to leave home.
00:40:23.000Yeah, I had a similar conversation in October of 2016.
00:40:26.000It was very late, like 1.30 in the morning, bar in Chelsea, New York.
00:41:37.000I believe he denies... Sources close to Kirby say... He claims that he's called barbecue because his mother was a chicken vendor.
00:41:44.000He eats people to scare people, not for the sustenance.
00:41:49.000Let's say Barbecue establishes control and sort of renounces whatever practices that are potentially untoward, and he establishes a dictatorship in Haiti, right?
00:41:59.000It's an interesting hypothetical question whether or not the US government will accept this, right?
00:42:07.000It's got to be better than what they're doing now.
00:42:08.000And so like, I mean like, if what they're doing now is zero, and a competent dictatorship is like a three or four, and like an actual functioning democracy like the U.S.
00:42:19.000like 70 years ago is like a ten, should we not accept the better?
00:42:24.000Yeah, and like, but you could see a democra- I'm just, I'm just like, you know, like, I'm not advocating for it, but if he's able to maintain control and he establishes some sort of weird, Masonic, you know, dictatorship state.
00:42:36.000How do you feel about the state of the United States?
00:42:47.000If Donald Trump gets elected and we go through standard procedures and the Democrats hang him up, cement his feet, can't really do anything, we will not resolve an existential crisis.
00:42:57.000It will just postpone for the next four years, should Trump be a mini-dictator.
00:43:04.000What I mean by that is, like, I really don't expect him to, you know, start arresting people arbitrarily.
00:43:09.000I mean, like, should he use the full weight of the Constitution and the law to start arresting corrupt politicians, shutting the border, deporting people?
00:43:18.000Yeah, I mean, I think we need to treat the border as a military problem.
00:43:22.000And I think, I'm a foreign policy reporter by training, so, I mean, I think you just make this stuff matters of national security.
00:43:28.000So trade and immigration should be matters of national security.
00:43:31.000And there, We do have an imperial presidency for better or worse.
00:43:34.000He actually does have considerable leverage, and I think he should take his chance at the Supreme Court to militize the border.
00:43:40.000Would we be better off in the United States if Trump, after getting elected four years on, says, I am suspending the next elections and will remain in office for another four years until we resolve the crisis of corruption, polarization, mass deportation, etc., etc.?
00:45:13.000That was a much more fun conversation than I'm going to have.
00:45:19.000I was calling in for Mr. Mills to ask him what does he see as, you know, in the D.C.
00:45:28.000swamp area, what does he see as the Democrats, liberals, leftists, whatever you want to call it, most effective talking point that could sway, you know, on-the-fence moderates And what is the conservative's best arguments against that?
00:45:44.000Okay, the most dangerous issue in this campaign is if the Democrats run on the IVF thing.
00:45:53.000So, I mean, if they just hammer it, like, it's not fully coherent because, you know, obviously Trump is not the most religious individual in the world, but if they just hammer it, they're gonna ban IVF.
00:46:06.000Well, I mean, I mean, like there was that Alabama Supreme Court ruling and Alabama is now protected the right in some form or another.
00:46:13.000But if the Republicans don't have their message discipline there, that this is like actually not like a key initiative of this this campaign.
00:46:20.000I mean, look, we can get in this all day.
00:46:22.000People should be having children younger.
00:46:41.000That would be the most effective way for a democratic route, in my view.
00:46:45.000The Republican argument to counteract it, I think, is very clear, which is, we're not running on that.
00:46:53.000I think the IVF topic is so fascinating and I think you're totally right.
00:46:57.000I mean in some ways the way the left-leaning media seized on this issue as soon as the ruling came out to say well because of Roe this is where we are when actually you know they're not totally related abortion and IVF I could see the parallel but They're separate issues.
00:47:15.000To me, it says that all of the, you know, I can't tell you how many NPR reports I listened to that said abortion is going to be the issue in 2024.
00:47:23.000And that's because the left believes that's what Biden can win on, which you've talked about this a couple times tonight.
00:47:28.000If you can keep the focus on the economy, on trade and on the border, I think immigration in particular, it's much better to be a Republican than it is to be a Democrat.
00:47:39.000For me, the IVF issue is so fascinating because I think it's so poorly represented.
00:47:42.000And I think basically not talking about it, but also always pointing back to the fact that the underlying case in the Alabama court was about people who had made embryos that they wanted and that the hospital and clinic allowed a patient to go into the cryogenic nursery and drop the embryos on the floor.
00:48:00.000And so they sued under a wrongful death of a minor act.
00:48:11.000That took a long time to explain, and so if they- I think they can- I mean, I'm not on the campaign trail, but if they can get it faster, if they can rebrand the issue- It's all just a waste of time.
00:48:20.000Look, if Republicans are like, we think IVF should be legal, this is a convoluted argument about someone intentionally destroying embryos, and the Democrats just go, it's too complicated, they can't answer, so just say they want to ban IVF, then what's stopping Republicans from being like, Democrats are trying to, uh, you know, rape kids.
00:48:43.000I mean, they're in favor of child sex.
00:48:45.000I think in 2020, it's, okay, 2022 is complex.
00:48:48.000So it's obviously was a law, it's actually like one of the things Republicans did well.
00:48:55.000They invested in the court over a generation.
00:48:58.000They overturned, in my view, which was a not good precedent, which was settling the abortion issue by judicial fiat, by dictatorship, as opposed to leaving it to the voters in state by state.
00:49:12.000I don't believe the question of whether or not a person in the United States has constitutional rights should be left up to states to vote on.
00:49:40.000So you would not classify the unborn as a life or human?
00:49:44.000I think it's... My personal vote is not particularly important here.
00:49:49.000Like, if I were specifically voting, I would vote for way more radical abortion laws than are currently on the books in my place of residence.
00:51:39.000There's no, but we wouldn't win, or with that.
00:51:41.000No, no, it's quite simply, I will stand on a pedestal and say, I will lose for My goal is fewer abortions in the United States, and I want to get from X to Y. I do think this is why conservatives lose all the time, to be honest.
00:51:57.000I think overturning Roe is an example of a conservative win.
00:52:04.000Well, because... Well, I don't necessarily... I don't know if I necessarily disagree on Roe specifically, but my point is, the federal government... It is a question of the federal government, and specifically the Supreme Court, whether or not the unborn are guaranteed constitutional rights.
00:52:18.000Now, just because Roe was wrong, or ruled incorrectly, doesn't change the fact the federal government, at the judicial level, should be asserting whether or not the Constitution applies to the unborn.
00:52:27.000Does the Constitution apply to humans within this country and are the unborn human?
00:52:32.000And if conservatives say, let's not tell people what we think so we can try and win, you lose.
00:52:36.000Because you're building no moral base among other people.
00:52:40.000The left comes out and says that adults should be able to have sex with children.
00:52:44.000And they should give children these books.
00:52:47.000Snapchat had a filter that said, love has no age.
00:52:50.000They have no shame whatsoever to literally come out and say, a woman should be able to destroy a baby at the point of birth.
00:52:57.000They scream it to the high heavens and conservatives are like, don't tell anyone what you really think, otherwise we'll lose.
00:54:04.000And in Colorado, all that's done is fragmented the country.
00:54:10.000The country is fragmented on this issue.
00:54:12.000So you can argue that in terms of less abortions, overturning Roe v. Wade is good, but that doesn't change the fact the argument is the federal government should, the Supreme Court specifically, must answer the question, are the unborn protected under the Constitution?
00:54:59.000No person shall be, no no no, the validity of public debt, no no no, all persons born or naturalized in the United States are subject, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States, of the state wherein they reside.
00:55:09.000No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States, semicolon, nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property without due process of law, nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the unborn person.
00:55:23.000So you want it to be interpreted under the 14th Amendment?
00:55:31.000The Supreme Court needs to answer the question, does this clause of Section 1, the 14th Amendment, that no person shall be deprived of life, liberty, or property without due process, does that apply to the unborn?
00:55:42.000I think if the court... Are the unborn persons yes or no?
00:55:44.000If the court does that in 2024, which they're not going to do, but if they were to do it, then the Democrats would sweep to power and they would pass
00:55:50.000their own constitutional amendment overriding that precedent, which in my view would be
00:57:07.000Looking at the country as a win for you, because you want to win the White House back, Is that what you're saying?
00:57:17.000Because like, in my opinion, the moral loss of knowing that parts of the country are still allowed to murder under certain states is worse off.
00:57:25.000I mean, there are obviously echoes of slavery here, but I would like to resolve the abortion question where we have very few abortions in the United States without a civil war.
00:59:06.000And I am sick and tired of weak morals among Republicans who are unwilling- But what good will it do for the conservative pro-life position?
00:59:16.000Yeah, maybe like- Maybe the issue that I see is that Republicans are centrists who say don't actually, and there's a lot of unabashed conservatives we're now seeing with like the MAGA movement, certainly like the likes of Carrie Lake, Marjorie Taylor Greene, will have no problem answering any of these questions I've asked.
00:59:35.000They would outright say it is murder, it should be stopped, all of it should be banned.
00:59:39.000Seamus Coghlan would come on the show.
00:59:41.000I mean, what good does it do if Gallego is elected and he... It's just fascinating to me that Democrats will beat the living fuck out of conservatives every single day, and they will crush them in elections, they will lie, cheat, and steal 24-7, and the argument is, well, we better lie about our positions, maybe we'll win then.
01:00:45.000So, what I see every single day is, and I'm not pro-life, I think there are nuances in the libertarian argument of constitutional limitations as it pertains to a life attached to a woman that can't survive on its own and whether a woman is obligated under the law to provide her body to it and under what circumstances.
01:01:00.000Uh, particularly if the woman shows to open her body to a life, she has effectively become a body, she has provided her body to that person, she now has an obligation for at least nine months.
01:01:09.000But if she was raped, now there's a question of, you cannot, the government cannot mandate a person give their body to another person against their will.
01:01:15.000These are very difficult questions that need to be answered.
01:01:17.000What frustrates me is, I watch the Republicans all day hemming and hawing with Robert Herr and getting nothing.
01:01:25.000And we get Robert Herr who outright admits Joe Biden's a criminal and breaking the law, and Republicans do nothing.
01:01:31.000And when Donald Trump is in office, what do we get?
01:01:33.000We're not going to go after Hillary Clinton.
01:01:34.000Would you prefer if he indicts him and the Democrats win the election because it's seen as an overreach?
01:01:59.000The polls that show immigration and economics are the number one issue.
01:02:02.000But also his poll numbers, if the X variable is the indictments and the Y variable is the polls, they shot up at the time he started getting indicted last spring.
01:02:11.000There is a loose correlation between Donald Trump's indictments and poll increases, but the number one issue... I think it's pretty severe.
01:02:19.000And when you ask people why, they say immigration economy.
01:02:35.000I mean, when the midterms happened, and we were all like, oh shit, the Republicans got a narrow majority, everyone on the show are laughing, saying, and now they will begin to do nothing.
01:02:45.000There will be no inverse January 6th committee, there will be no 529 committee, there will be no deep or serious investigations, and anything we do get will be political bickering that will be like, here's why we think Hunter Biden's bad, whereas Democrats indict condemn. They're literally hunting down grannies over
01:03:02.000January 6th. And then I'm supposed to believe that even Donald Trump, who said he was going to arrest
01:03:07.000Hillary and lock her up and then did nothing, and that's fine, arguably initially reasonable. We
01:03:12.000end up with them framing the president for treason, aiding and abetting and working with
01:03:20.000How am I supposed to make the argument that this is the right choice when Republicans are the quote, slowed down Democrats party and they're terrified to express their actual positions because they think they're going to lose when they're losing.
01:03:30.000If Trump is reelected in November after the Democrats indicted him 95 times, that is going to be a grand rebuke to these tactics.
01:03:51.0002022 happens, and so I've had this argument over and over again, and one of the funniest things about electoral politics every cycle is that if Libertarians voted Conservative or Republican, the Republicans win every time.
01:04:05.000I mean, it's 5 million more votes in all of these states.
01:04:10.000The Libertarian Party gets about 5 million or whatever votes.
01:04:13.000I think that's probably a net Republican accrual, but I think some Democrats vote Libertarian.
01:04:18.000And if the Libertarians decided to vote, it's the meme where it's like a guy says, I'm not going to vote Republican because I'm a Libertarian.
01:04:26.000And then it shows and there's like crude bit, you know, paintbrush drawings.
01:04:30.000Democrat wins by one vote and then bans guns.
01:04:32.000Because Libertarians don't want to vote Republican.
01:04:34.000Now, I understand that Libertarians don't like the Republican Party.
01:04:37.000But one of the reasons is, when we have any Libertarian on, they say, are you joking?
01:04:53.000Hemming and Hawing, Republicans siding with Democrats, the Republicans don't actually have any power, Kevin McCarthy can't get anything done, Kevin McCarthy breaking his promises, and the Republicans prove to be ineffective.
01:05:02.000Donald Trump gets elected, he hires John Bolton.
01:05:04.000How do we win over these people and convince them that Donald Trump winning actually is a net positive?
01:05:09.000I can say, I vote for Trump, no new wars.
01:05:13.000I don't know that it actually will solve the problem of abject corruption in this country, because Republicans are going to be shackled by Democrats in Deep State.
01:05:21.000As Chuck Schumer said, they got six waves from Sunday of stopping you, and I see nothing from Republicans to actually do anything about it.
01:05:27.000Entering 2024, now I say, well shit, now we can't impeach Joe Biden.
01:05:31.000Because of the economy and immigration, among other issues, Joe Biden's actually down in the polls and Republicans might actually win in November.
01:05:39.000Donald Trump may get his revenge tour, and I think the gloves are off, and that's what I'm hoping for, at the very least, Schedule F, but I do not have high hopes, and I think it would be disingenuous for me to go to any libertarian and say, trust me, this time it will change.
01:05:53.000Certainly, Donald Trump is a big change, but I don't know that I see, like...
01:05:58.000You know, it's a general net positive.
01:06:00.000There will be, sure, less abortions, and perhaps, unless there is a fundamental cultural change in this country, which is why all of the investment that we do with Tim Kass, I don't care to donate to politicians at all.
01:06:13.000It's build culture, set up the Kass brew coffee shop, get people to organize, get people to share ideas with each other, start new shows.
01:06:22.000We're doing big investment in skateboarding, and we are invading the space that the woke have tried to take over, because culture is how you win everything.
01:06:28.000Look, I trust you're very well meaning, but these debates are extremely old.
01:06:32.000I mean, if you just go back to the Civil War, similar debates were had between Lincoln and the Radical Republicans over these exact nature.
01:06:39.000And I just continue to side with Lincoln.
01:06:41.000If they had not won the elections in 1860 and 1864, the practice would have been prolonged.
01:09:12.000You could argue— Because the Union would not accept that the South would leave.
01:09:16.000Well, so the Union— And they also didn't accept that they were the lawful representatives of the people in the States, that this was an extrajudicial or an extralegal body that had claimed themselves to be the representatives of the South.
01:09:30.000Do you think that the American War for Independence was wrong?
01:09:43.000Great Britain abolished slavery in... Yeah, easy to do when you're not agricultural in nature.
01:09:47.000Ash, it is argued that if the United States lost the war for independence, the crown would have abolished slavery in the States, which likely would have resulted in a civil war.
01:09:56.000The British were unbelievably cynical in the Civil War.
01:09:59.000I mean, half the British were pro-confederate.
01:10:04.000The Crown decreed in the Commonwealth States the end of slavery, which would have resulted in conflict in the colonies in the States, where the Southern States would have been fighting against the Crown, and it would have been a different kind of war for independence, but mostly just to keep slaves.
01:10:18.000Ultimately, my point is, you know, I don't know.
01:10:22.000We bring up Abraham Lincoln, we probably should just wrap it up because we're going late, but the Union forces were Like, there's no good guys in the Civil War.
01:10:32.000There's, slavery was an atrocity, and it should have been stopped, we all agree on that, and the Union decided to commit atrocities and defend slavery in the process, which makes- The Union defended slavery?
01:11:41.000But the first thing he did when we elected was pass the 13th amendment.
01:11:44.000There was, uh... I mean, you can argue states and Reconstruction, and there's deep politics of it, but the point I'm making is not that... You know, I do think it's good that the Union won, but I don't see good guys in the fight between the North and the South.
01:11:58.000You can argue that there is good in the ending of slavery, but then you can also argue there is bad in the march to the sea, the ransacking of homes... Oh, sure!
01:12:09.000There is good and evil people on both sides.
01:12:11.000But I think Lincoln was an able statesman who won the Civil War, and he had clear anti-slavery sympathies, and was very good at achieving his ends.
01:12:21.000When I think about, you know, a lot of people like to compare what's going on now to, say, Weimar Germany, or the Spanish Civil War, or the American Civil War, it's fascinating because there's a reason why the left views themselves as the inheritors of the Republican Party of 1860.
01:12:34.000And it's because they are the ones who go around shooting people in the face.
01:13:57.000And it was only because their supplies were being destroyed by an invading North that they eventually decided to make the move on Gettysburg, which was a major catastrophe for a variety of reasons.
01:14:07.000The South had every opportunity very early on, but they kept doing the, we just wanna be left alone.
01:14:13.000And the North said- The South wanna be left alone?
01:14:35.000And so, when these states were two-to-one against secession, and Abraham Lincoln said, we're now going to call all your men to fight to go, you know, stop the rebellion, that's when sentiment flipped, and they were still, it was still like two-to-one.
01:15:14.000They didn't accept that they were lawful representatives, and they didn't represent that it was constitutional for the Union to be dissolved.
01:15:20.000And so thus, accordingly, they thought they had the North.
01:15:24.000And Ulysses S. Grant wrote, effectively, essentially, that if the South were to have won the war, it would have just been a war for independence, and they would have been right and righteous.
01:15:34.000I mean, I think they thought they were going to have to fight this country forever.
01:15:36.000They would have tried to expand into the Caribbean, have new slave republics that would have been a geopolitical foe.
01:15:43.000They're all different motivations for the Lincoln administration.
01:15:46.000Well, anyway, there's no point in debating the Civil War, but the ultimate point I'm making is... It is sort of a cliche, yeah.
01:16:11.000But maybe we can hope that within 16 years, we can see total reformation of the Republican Party and a reforming with a new generation of more based Gen Z. But for the time being, all I see is weakness.
01:16:25.000Maybe it's shows like this, you know, I grew up an angry leftist, you know, and here I am angry at much of the exact same things, the Federal Reserve's policies, war for bullshit reasons, but the path forward is with Donald Trump, not with the Democrats, and probably never was, Obama was a liar.
01:16:44.000And so I am quite frustrated at the weakness of the conservative Inc.
01:16:50.000And perhaps that's why you end up seeing people say they're going to vote for Trump because he says, I'm going to lock up Hillary and I'm going to burn all shit to the ground.
01:18:25.000Though most people in this country will tell you outright child sex changes should be banned, they will publicly, on camera, say child sex changes are a good thing.
01:18:33.000Because the Democrats rule through terror and violence, and it works.
01:19:06.000Conservatives keep playing the centrist game.
01:19:09.000They, uh, Trump was the first big ask.
01:19:12.000He came out and he said, we're gonna, we're gonna ban all Muslims coming into the country until we can figure out what the hell's really going on.
01:19:18.000And he went extremely, he actually argued A counter-position to the left for the first time I'd ever actually seen.
01:19:26.000Because, you know, usually it was just... The example I like to use is misgendering.