Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - January 28, 2024


Sunday Uncensored: Derrick Evans Members Only Podcast


Episode Stats

Length

47 minutes

Words per Minute

205.4071

Word Count

9,839

Sentence Count

804

Misogynist Sentences

30

Hate Speech Sentences

21


Summary

In this week's episode of Sunday Uncensored, we discuss a woman who stabbed a man to death while high on marijuana and why she should get the same punishment as a murderer. Plus, we talk about how pot should be legalized in the United States.


Transcript

00:00:01.000 Welcome to our special weekend show, Sunday Uncensored.
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00:00:32.000 We gotta- We gotta- Change your- Oh.
00:00:34.000 Yep.
00:00:34.000 Change your thing.
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00:00:36.000 It's live already.
00:00:37.000 Just- Just roll with it.
00:00:38.000 Just- Just fix it.
00:00:39.000 Yeah.
00:00:40.000 Cause everyone's watching this now.
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00:00:42.000 Hello, everyone!
00:00:43.000 Welcome!
00:00:44.000 The member's only when the stream deck isn't changed properly and it pulls up the wrong set of, uh, video.
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00:00:49.000 Uh, we can't switch it ba- The chat and everything.
00:00:51.000 We gotta s- Can we switch it back?
00:00:53.000 Uh, profile-wise?
00:00:54.000 No.
00:00:54.000 Like this- My steam- My- My stream deck also didn't change either.
00:00:56.000 Uh... I don't understand how that would've...
00:01:02.000 What the hell, dude?
00:01:04.000 Right, so let me just, uh... Oh, that's it?
00:01:07.000 It didn't change?
00:01:08.000 Yeah, I don't know.
00:01:09.000 I'm trying to figure out why that did that.
00:01:11.000 See, that's the correct thing.
00:01:12.000 Oh, okay, great.
00:01:13.000 Then I'll press... There we go!
00:01:17.000 See?
00:01:17.000 Problem fixed!
00:01:19.000 Okay, so here's the story.
00:01:21.000 Some 32-year-old woman smoked pot and then instantly just grabbed the knife and started screaming and just stabbed a guy a hundred times to death and then started stabbing herself.
00:01:32.000 And she said that after smoking weed she thought she was dead and that the only way to come back to life was to murder the other guy.
00:01:39.000 She got no jail time.
00:01:42.000 Cannabis induced psychosis.
00:01:46.000 You shouldn't get off for that, like you chose to get super fucked up and then you killed somebody.
00:01:52.000 Wow.
00:01:52.000 It's crazy.
00:01:54.000 I am no longer in favor of legalized marijuana.
00:01:58.000 I'm actually not either, but I was never really in favor of legalization.
00:02:01.000 Did they purchase this from a legalized place or was this something on the street that was laced with something?
00:02:06.000 I don't know, she was smoking with her friend.
00:02:08.000 But so, I want to clarify.
00:02:10.000 I am still in favor of heavily regulated, circumstantial...
00:02:15.000 I should probably clarify that.
00:02:17.000 I don't think you should go to jail for pot.
00:02:20.000 I think it should be heavily regulated because of that reason.
00:02:22.000 I just think we should have heavy weights on it to make it almost impossible to do.
00:02:26.000 And I think you should go to jail for murder.
00:02:28.000 Regardless of what the reason was.
00:02:30.000 I agree with going to jail for murder, especially if you stab someone a hundred times.
00:02:35.000 I went to jail for protesting.
00:02:37.000 Marijuana is a deep state plot to weaken and shatter the minds of people in this country and turn them into retards.
00:02:48.000 I think that's a big part of it.
00:02:50.000 When you walk around also in American cities where weed is legal, it's really disgusting and gross.
00:02:54.000 Like everyone's just walking around getting stoned Pooping in the streets of San Francisco.
00:02:58.000 Pooping, yeah.
00:02:59.000 I saw, when I lived in Brooklyn, I looked out my window and I saw people pooping on my car.
00:03:06.000 Goodness.
00:03:07.000 On your car?
00:03:07.000 On my car, yeah.
00:03:09.000 And then you're like, I'm moving to West Virginia.
00:03:11.000 No, it was years before.
00:03:12.000 Birds do that in West Virginia.
00:03:16.000 I've never known a human being.
00:03:18.000 No, I mean, what I find interesting about the conversations around marijuana is, I remember it all started with medical work.
00:03:25.000 If you're going through chemo, you should be able to smoke weed because it helps the nausea or like whatever else.
00:03:29.000 And I can understand like empathy for me.
00:03:32.000 I'm one of the things that disturbs me most that it's also regularly linked to like the first appearance of psychological disorders like schizophrenia or whatever else and so you don't know what your risk factors are until you just start using weed and like there's there's or like any kind of drug and so It's hard because I can recognize that for us to study the effects of marijuana in some capacity, at least the way our government works right now, it has to be acknowledged as something that has to be regulated in some way and permitted in some capacity for study.
00:04:02.000 Because that's the only way we get answers about it.
00:04:04.000 On the other hand, being like, it's recreational and it could potentially be totally fine for you, but also potentially really ruin your life, it seems weird that we're sort of like rolling out recreational marijuana.
00:04:16.000 I think everybody can agree with removing it from the Schedule 1.
00:04:19.000 Yeah, that makes sense.
00:04:20.000 I don't know anyone who says, no, it needs to stay at Schedule 1.
00:04:23.000 I don't know anyone who's beating that drum.
00:04:27.000 If I may, there's a huge difference between weed now and post-legalization and the weed that used to be available, just street weed.
00:04:37.000 So if you perhaps were buying things like dime bags in the 90s, You would get seeds, there'd be seeds in there, there'd be stems.
00:04:48.000 It would not be like heavy-duty potent weed.
00:04:52.000 And I remember talking to my cousin years and years later, like after, you know, weeds leak and he still smokes a lot of weed and whatever.
00:04:59.000 And it's like really, it's really strong.
00:05:03.000 It's way stronger than it used to be.
00:05:05.000 My mom told me about that too.
00:05:06.000 She used to smoke weed in the sixties or whatever.
00:05:09.000 And she used to tell me about taking mescaline and like going to the park with her friends.
00:05:15.000 Those people took like 500 doses of LSD in like a bowl though, so like, let's be very clear about that.
00:05:20.000 But the weed is way stronger now than it used to be.
00:05:24.000 500 doses of LSD is very strong.
00:05:25.000 Well, it's not stronger than 500 doses of LSD, but you wouldn't take 500 doses of LSD at once.
00:05:31.000 People back then did.
00:05:31.000 No, no, that's ridiculous.
00:05:33.000 They had little bowls.
00:05:35.000 Like what, blotter?
00:05:36.000 Like little blotter?
00:05:37.000 No, no, no.
00:05:38.000 I'm not talking about that.
00:05:39.000 This is for people in the early days.
00:05:41.000 It would be like liquid LSD?
00:05:42.000 What would be the form?
00:05:44.000 Liquid LSD is really strong.
00:05:46.000 I'll show you some videos of it in a little bit if you want to.
00:05:49.000 Have you guys seen this stuff about Charlotte's Web, the strain of weed for Charlotte's Web?
00:05:53.000 It's named after this little girl named Charlotte, and what they did is they bred this cannabis to be very low in THC and high in something else.
00:06:01.000 Remember what it is?
00:06:01.000 It combats seizures.
00:06:03.000 Yeah this little girl was having massive seizures and the parents didn't know what else to do so they go to this guy and say hey we want to give this to our little girl and at first he was like no and finally the mom was like just come spend a day with us and see this and he saw what the family's going through so he said okay.
00:06:19.000 And then it, you know, obviously didn't cure her completely, but it was a drastic change in that.
00:06:24.000 And so they started breeding this cannabis specifically to be low in THC and high in the other stuff for that.
00:06:29.000 And so that's why it's like, I don't know how anyone could argue for it, and no one here is, but to stay on schedule one and to where there's definitely medicinal benefits to this in some aspect or another.
00:06:38.000 I'll clarify.
00:06:40.000 I think it should be legal because, but heavily regulated.
00:06:43.000 Yeah.
00:06:43.000 And the issue with legality is that it created hyper potent psycho strains.
00:06:49.000 It used to be like exactly what you're saying.
00:06:51.000 Yeah.
00:06:51.000 Even the 90s, my friends have told me the same thing.
00:06:53.000 It's gone nuts because now, oh, it's legal.
00:06:56.000 Now they're breeding and making the craziest shit imaginable and you're getting this super ultra dense drug.
00:07:01.000 Yeah.
00:07:02.000 How you regulate it, It's gotta be something about THC levels, things like that.
00:07:08.000 And, uh, it's tough.
00:07:09.000 But I think it should be heavily discouraged.
00:07:12.000 Uh, I don't think people should smoke.
00:07:14.000 And I think it's funny that people try to make the argument that it's, you're fine, it's, you know, whatever.
00:07:19.000 And I'm like, dude... The people I know who are potheads are obviously potheads.
00:07:25.000 And they are not high-functioning people.
00:07:27.000 They didn't have to tell you that they were a pothead.
00:07:28.000 That's right!
00:07:29.000 You kind of just figured it out.
00:07:31.000 Yeah, I think it can have a really negative effect.
00:07:32.000 And again, if- because I generally like, you know, natural medicine or whatever else, there's a- there's an instinct to be like, well, if this could benefit you, how do we cultivate it?
00:07:41.000 So your story about Trellis, that's like a perfect example.
00:07:44.000 But people who I know who smoked early and often, Their lives and personalities change because of it.
00:07:51.000 I know people say it's not addictive, but anything could be habit-forming, and I think that that is something that we really have to guard against, especially in a society of young people who feel- consistently report feeling uninspired, feeling hopeless, feeling like the world's against them, the environment's getting too hot, they're never gonna be able to get a house, like this, uh, I must just retreat into myself and sort of detach from the world because it's all going down the drain is- is Real enough, we don't need to add anything else to discourage people from being ambitious and from taking care of themselves and going out.
00:08:19.000 Let's clarify, too.
00:08:20.000 I'm talking about recreational use.
00:08:22.000 Yeah.
00:08:22.000 You know, people are saying, like, I have pain and stuff.
00:08:25.000 Like, no, no, no, that's fine, that's fine.
00:08:26.000 And I think, like, it's, in some ways, you know, of course, there are times I want to compare it to alcohol.
00:08:30.000 Like, there are people who can handle alcohol, there are people who cannot.
00:08:33.000 There are ways to drink responsibly.
00:08:35.000 There are ways to be reckless and put other people in danger.
00:08:38.000 And I think that could be true too of marijuana, but it's just the fact that with marijuana, we live in this weird thing where it's recreational in some places, but also we are not totally aware of all of the long-term effects.
00:08:51.000 Okay, now this guy's got potato here.
00:08:53.000 He says, thank God Tim sells coffee.
00:08:55.000 Shitting on vaping now weed.
00:08:56.000 I have absolutely zero issues with vaping.
00:08:59.000 I don't care if you vape.
00:09:01.000 Go vape.
00:09:02.000 In fact, go smoke.
00:09:04.000 Go smoke a cigar.
00:09:05.000 Go smoke marijuana.
00:09:07.000 I think vaping is bad for you.
00:09:09.000 I think smoking cigarettes is bad for you.
00:09:10.000 I think cigars are bad for your gums and your teeth.
00:09:12.000 I think marijuana is bad for you, but whatever, go do it.
00:09:14.000 I think marijuana should be regulated because it is a highly potent drug, and there are regulations even on coffee.
00:09:19.000 We just saw Panera get sued into oblivion.
00:09:22.000 But my point about vaping is not the vape.
00:09:27.000 It's assholes.
00:09:30.000 Like, if you got in my car, and I'm driving, and you went, and then spat on the back of my chair, I'd be like, what the fuck, dude?
00:09:38.000 Yeah, what the fuck indeed.
00:09:39.000 We're driving in a car down the highway.
00:09:41.000 We're going to get lunch.
00:09:43.000 The windows are rolled up.
00:09:44.000 And then all of a sudden, the whole car fills with vape.
00:09:46.000 And I was like, who the fuck just did that?
00:09:48.000 And they're all my bad.
00:09:49.000 I'm like, are you joking, dude?
00:09:51.000 Roll down your window.
00:09:52.000 I don't care that you're vaping.
00:09:54.000 Just blow the fuck out the window.
00:09:55.000 That's what I'm talking about.
00:09:56.000 Well, not only that, and to your point, I mean, we were talking a second ago, I mean, it's your insurance here.
00:10:01.000 And it's very well stated in the email that I received before coming here.
00:10:04.000 There's signs out, you know, out there to not vape here on the property.
00:10:09.000 And that's not even your rule.
00:10:10.000 That's the insurance rule regardless.
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00:11:20.000 It's not like to your point.
00:11:21.000 It's not just the vaping.
00:11:22.000 It's that we got that's the only rule I was actually given when I was coming on the show was don't smoke or vape.
00:11:29.000 Well, this is like I think just generally the idea of common courtesy and being like if someone has a rule about their house, right?
00:11:36.000 I'm like you have to take your shoes off before you come into my house.
00:11:39.000 I hate that rule, but I do abide by it.
00:11:41.000 But if it's someone else.
00:11:41.000 You know why?
00:11:42.000 Because I'm sorry go ahead.
00:11:43.000 Oh, I was gonna say, like, I personally get frustrated when people just, like, leave trash in my car, you know?
00:11:49.000 Like, if you have to put it down, not a big deal, but if you just continuously always leave trash in my car, that feels disrespectful to me, right?
00:11:56.000 Like, you are ultimately saying I have to clean up after you.
00:11:59.000 I think that there are things that people do that, you know, they're like, oh, it's not that big a deal because they don't think about the consequences or basically what they're communicating to the other person.
00:12:07.000 You want to talk about the shoes-off rule?
00:12:09.000 I think everyone can be more courteous, you know?
00:12:11.000 They can be part of your outfit, for sure.
00:12:13.000 But if you felt like, I always have to clean this floor and whatever else, like, I'm not gonna freak out at you, you know, maybe I'll just suggest we hang out outside your home.
00:12:20.000 If you live in a city, though, and you walk around with your shoes inside your house, it's disgusting.
00:12:24.000 Know what I mean?
00:12:24.000 For sure.
00:12:25.000 Yeah, that's pretty good.
00:12:25.000 Or, like, people have the, like, no shoes on the bed rule.
00:12:27.000 Like, why?
00:12:29.000 It would be annoying if someone was like, oh, okay, but I'm just gonna make an exception for myself to this rule.
00:12:35.000 Like, why?
00:12:36.000 This is what we've had people do.
00:12:38.000 There's big signs on the door, no smoking, no vaping.
00:12:41.000 On the inside, the same thing.
00:12:43.000 And then, literally, they try to hide their vape, go in the bathroom, and I'm just ready to be like, Get the fuck out of my house.
00:12:51.000 Yeah.
00:12:52.000 Get the fuck out, you fucking asshole.
00:12:54.000 Like, bro, we will give you an escort.
00:12:57.000 I will carry you.
00:12:58.000 You can vape.
00:12:59.000 I don't care.
00:13:01.000 But the fact that you're trying to hide it after we asked you not to do it?
00:13:04.000 Like, I don't care if it's vaping, I don't care if it's your shoes, I don't care if you're taking a dump, whatever.
00:13:08.000 We told you not to do it.
00:13:10.000 Like, just don't.
00:13:11.000 Well, and no one who smokes a cigarette who's been on the show has just, like, sat in here and whatever.
00:13:16.000 Like, why is it that with vaping you feel like it's okay, but you wouldn't, like, sit in here?
00:13:19.000 Because they can hide it.
00:13:21.000 Yeah, they can hide it, except we see the smoke, right?
00:13:23.000 You used to think that with, um, with cigarettes.
00:13:25.000 I mean, I used to, like, when you go on planes in the 80s, people would be smoking.
00:13:30.000 The back was the smoking section.
00:13:32.000 And you'd end up, like, sitting there.
00:13:34.000 Which seems like a weirdly, obviously, like, not effective thing.
00:13:37.000 It was terrible.
00:13:38.000 I remember that.
00:13:38.000 And we were going to restaurants, smoking or non.
00:13:40.000 And then you sit right beside of the, there's like an imaginary wall, apparently it's supposed to stop.
00:13:44.000 And it didn't work.
00:13:44.000 Oh, I fucking hate it, dude.
00:13:45.000 I always was in the smoking section with my parents, cause they, my, my dad and stepmom, they smoked.
00:13:51.000 And so wherever we were, we were in the smoking section and like, it wasn't until years later that I realized, oh, when you hang out with a lot of smokers, uh, your hair starts to smell really bad.
00:14:02.000 So at the Hollywood casino, it's an all, it's basically all smoking except for the poker room.
00:14:07.000 It's crazy.
00:14:08.000 And it's funny how everyone hates it.
00:14:10.000 Everyone.
00:14:11.000 Very few people like and want smoking, but a very small amount of people like smoking.
00:14:16.000 So it's funny, when you're in the poker room, the moment someone smells smoke, everyone's like, what the fuck?!
00:14:20.000 What the fuck?!
00:14:22.000 Because the poker room's no smoking, and the slots next to it are no smoking, and they'll actually call security and be like, get that guy out of here.
00:14:28.000 The rest of the casino, you'll be sitting down playing like a table game, playing blackjack or something.
00:14:32.000 Someone will sit down- Oh, it's the worst thing ever.
00:14:35.000 They'll sit down right next to you, and they'll light up a cigarette and just hold it right next to you, and they're like, fuck off, we're allowed to do it.
00:14:40.000 And I'm just like, ah, leave.
00:14:43.000 But that's like a dick move.
00:14:44.000 Back when they were banning smoking in public places, back in Chicago, I was pro-smoking in businesses.
00:14:49.000 I said, if a business wants smoking, that's their business.
00:14:52.000 Don't tell them they can't have it.
00:14:53.000 That makes no sense.
00:14:54.000 And I'm like, if I go to a restaurant, everybody's smoking inside, I'll leave.
00:14:58.000 I got no beef.
00:14:59.000 You guys like it.
00:15:00.000 You want to be here.
00:15:01.000 Who the fuck am I to come here and tell you not to do it?
00:15:03.000 If I'm sitting down at a restaurant, at the bar, eating a cheeseburger, and you show up, sit down next to me, and then light a cigarette next to me, you're a dick.
00:15:10.000 Agreed.
00:15:10.000 That's it.
00:15:11.000 So, you know, that's my thing.
00:15:13.000 Now, my thing is, I love vape.
00:15:14.000 Vape is awesome.
00:15:15.000 You guys go vape.
00:15:17.000 Get your vapes, get your whatever you want.
00:15:18.000 Have vape parties.
00:15:19.000 That's cool, man.
00:15:20.000 You do you.
00:15:21.000 You ride your motorcycles while vaping.
00:15:23.000 But when you come to this place, and we say, hey, you can't vape inside, and then you go, fuck you, I'm gonna do it anyway, I'm gonna kick you out.
00:15:30.000 Well, it's rude if somebody asks you not to.
00:15:33.000 I like those restaurants though, or bars or whatever that are smoking.
00:15:37.000 You go in and everybody's smoking.
00:15:39.000 There's this bar in New York that's like that.
00:15:41.000 And you go in and everyone's having a cigar and drinking a scotch.
00:15:45.000 Cigar bars can be really cool.
00:15:46.000 You don't want to hang out there all night necessarily, but I kind of like it.
00:15:49.000 If you know what you're going for, then go for it.
00:15:52.000 It's not like eating a cheeseburger though.
00:15:55.000 It was funny, when they started banning smoking in public places, in Arizona, there was a bar that had cut out something like a one square foot hole in their ceiling, because that made it legally outside.
00:16:07.000 Oh, how about that?
00:16:09.000 Clever, clever.
00:16:10.000 It was something like that, and a bunch of places were doing things like that.
00:16:13.000 They would create, like, indoor-outdoor, and they'd be like, okay, what's the legal requirement for outdoor?
00:16:17.000 And it's like, well, I guess a roof has to be this, and I do love the creativeness of people when the government does start infringing on people in whatever aspect it is and people get creative and find loopholes and ways around it which is always fun.
00:16:31.000 Well in New Hampshire you still don't have to wear a motorcycle helmet when you're on your motorcycle.
00:16:36.000 Oh, I fucking hate all these laws.
00:16:37.000 Seatbelt laws.
00:16:38.000 I always wear a seatbelt.
00:16:39.000 I was driving with my son and he was like, whoa, that person has no helmet on and they're going 80.
00:16:44.000 You don't have to in Kentucky either.
00:16:45.000 You don't have to wear a helmet in Kentucky.
00:16:46.000 So I live right on the border and people stop, get off their motorcycle, put their helmet on, and then go around.
00:16:51.000 You know why we got seatbelt laws?
00:16:53.000 Insurance companies lobbying it.
00:16:54.000 Because it does reduce physical body damage in car accidents, which means insurance companies were looking at their bottom line and they were like, if everybody wore a seatbelt, we would save 17% on our payouts.
00:17:07.000 Okay, let's make it illegal to not have a seatbelt on so that we can make more money.
00:17:11.000 No, I thought it was because the insurance companies cared about us deeply.
00:17:15.000 They were deeply worried about my personal safety.
00:17:17.000 I thought it was the federal government that cared about us deeply.
00:17:19.000 They do, they do.
00:17:20.000 You ever see those t-shirts that have fake seatbelts on them?
00:17:22.000 Yeah.
00:17:23.000 Those are great.
00:17:23.000 That's hilarious.
00:17:24.000 No, I'm just kidding.
00:17:25.000 That is amusing.
00:17:26.000 I remember during the whole COVID stuff, you had to wear a mask on airplanes and such.
00:17:32.000 But you didn't have to if you were eating something.
00:17:33.000 So I found that loophole and like the whole way to Florida, I ate a pretzel.
00:17:38.000 I just nibbled on it.
00:17:39.000 We had these helmets this guy made.
00:17:42.000 I forgot what they were called, but they were like space helmets with air filters in them.
00:17:46.000 And it was like advertised as not having to wear a mask and being on a plane and wearing this plastic dome helmet with a filter.
00:17:54.000 The only problem is they weren't allowed on airplanes.
00:17:56.000 That's crazy.
00:17:57.000 So, I actually ordered some because I thought they were funny.
00:17:59.000 And, uh, I used them when gardening because it would give me fresh air and the bugs wouldn't get in my face.
00:18:05.000 Oh, clever.
00:18:06.000 That was the best use case for it, honestly.
00:18:07.000 I'd love to see what your neighbors thought of you out there.
00:18:09.000 We don't have neighbors.
00:18:10.000 In the garden.
00:18:10.000 We live in the middle of nowhere.
00:18:11.000 That's true.
00:18:11.000 So, I'm out in the garden and I'm, like, grabbing tomatoes and shit.
00:18:15.000 Or I was, like, cleaning something or watering something.
00:18:17.000 And the flies are everywhere and they're just... You go out there without it and they're in your eyes.
00:18:21.000 You're like, God, every time.
00:18:23.000 They are like that.
00:18:23.000 The chickens, too.
00:18:24.000 With these space helmets.
00:18:25.000 But anyway, we were gonna travel, and I was like, oh, let's use the space helmets.
00:18:28.000 And then I checked the websites, and they're like, these are banned.
00:18:31.000 They're not masks.
00:18:33.000 They're like, there's a federal mandate as to what a mask is.
00:18:36.000 That's not a mask.
00:18:37.000 So you actually couldn't even use them.
00:18:39.000 They were acquiring masks in schools at the time, and I found these masks that were basically mesh.
00:18:45.000 They looked like masks, but if you got up close, they were just basically not at all.
00:18:49.000 It was just very porous.
00:18:51.000 And my son was having so much trouble going to school with the mask, and they were like, They were everywhere.
00:18:55.000 It was all over.
00:18:56.000 It couldn't stay on.
00:18:57.000 He couldn't see.
00:18:58.000 It ended up in his eyes.
00:19:00.000 I got him these mesh ones and no one ever figured it out.
00:19:02.000 That's awesome.
00:19:03.000 But gators were not allowed.
00:19:04.000 Gators?
00:19:05.000 Gators were not allowed.
00:19:06.000 That wasn't allowed.
00:19:07.000 Even though that's stupid.
00:19:09.000 Yeah.
00:19:09.000 Yeah.
00:19:10.000 I thought the rules for restaurants were the weirdest thing during COVID.
00:19:12.000 Especially in New York, right?
00:19:14.000 They'd be like, oh, well, outdoor.
00:19:16.000 But now it's cold, so we'll build some walls.
00:19:17.000 Now we'll put a heater in.
00:19:18.000 It's like, you're just making brooms outdoors.
00:19:20.000 You had to wear a mask all the way to sit down.
00:19:24.000 And after you sat down, it was safe to take it off.
00:19:26.000 And there was a sushi restaurant in Frederick, Maryland, where I was standing literally five feet from the table, and they put the mask on.
00:19:34.000 So I'm at the door.
00:19:36.000 Five feet from me is the table and I'm like, I would like to sit down.
00:19:38.000 You got to put a mask on.
00:19:39.000 And I was like, no one else here is wearing a mask.
00:19:41.000 And they're like, yeah, they're eating.
00:19:42.000 And I'm like, that person's not eating.
00:19:44.000 Well, they're sitting down to eat so they can take the mask off.
00:19:46.000 And I was like, I'll go low right now.
00:19:49.000 And they said no.
00:19:51.000 In the time that it took them to have this conversation with you, you could have just sat down and been without the mask.
00:19:56.000 They wanted me to take a mask, put it on, and literally, in one second, take it off and throw it in the garbage.
00:20:00.000 I'm like, what the fuck is wrong with you retards?
00:20:03.000 It's so weird.
00:20:04.000 It's because they care.
00:20:05.000 It's because they care.
00:20:06.000 It's true.
00:20:07.000 Well, that's the scary part about the whole shutdown stuff, is at first it was like, you know, you gotta do these mandates and you gotta take all these shots or whatever to save yourself.
00:20:16.000 And then it became, well, now you gotta do it to save your grandmother and your neighbor.
00:20:20.000 And if you don't do that, you're a terrible person.
00:20:22.000 Meanwhile, Andrew Cuomo killed all the grandmas.
00:20:24.000 He did it.
00:20:25.000 He did.
00:20:25.000 And so did Rachel Levine in Pennsylvania, who is now- It was different though.
00:20:29.000 Yeah, it was different because for Rachel Levine, it was his mom who was in the- Which he was fine with.
00:20:36.000 And he took his mom out and then imposed the thing that said, you know, you have to take everybody back after they've been in the hospital so they all die.
00:20:43.000 And for that and for being trans, Rachel Levine has a Biden administration appointment in HHS.
00:20:52.000 Yeah.
00:20:52.000 What about murder hornets?
00:20:53.000 Did everybody just forget about the murder hornets?
00:20:55.000 Murder hornets?
00:20:56.000 I forgot about that!
00:20:59.000 Real quick, I think the sushi place went out of business.
00:21:03.000 They were refusing to have customers because they wouldn't wear masks.
00:21:06.000 You would know this.
00:21:08.000 Is West Virginia going to get hit with the cicada blitz?
00:21:10.000 We are.
00:21:10.000 I'm really excited.
00:21:11.000 Can't wait.
00:21:12.000 It's like a 200 year cicada event. 17.
00:21:15.000 Oh, you're talking about the two things at the same time?
00:21:18.000 The two things at the same time.
00:21:19.000 Yeah, coming at the same time.
00:21:21.000 The last time they did it, I remember we were out with tennis rackets.
00:21:24.000 They're going to be falling out of trees.
00:21:25.000 You were out with tennis rackets.
00:21:27.000 Yeah, that's what we were doing.
00:21:28.000 I remember my other soccer one was just covered in them.
00:21:30.000 We should go to Collar's.
00:21:31.000 Gross.
00:21:32.000 We should, indeed.
00:21:33.000 It was gross.
00:21:34.000 So before I say anything, before I go anything callers, do you remember the guy that called in yesterday?
00:21:39.000 Or was it the day before?
00:21:40.000 I think it was yesterday.
00:21:41.000 He was talking about that story that he uncovered.
00:21:44.000 I can't remember his name.
00:21:45.000 It was like Jimmy something.
00:21:47.000 He was banned off X, apparently.
00:21:49.000 If anyone could get me his name.
00:21:51.000 I forget what his name was.
00:21:52.000 Jimmy Trimmer.
00:21:53.000 Jimmy Trimmer, the guy you told us to get in touch with because he was breaking that story.
00:21:57.000 But yeah, I guess he got banned on X for posting the stuff he was posting.
00:22:01.000 Yeah.
00:22:02.000 We used to go cockroach stomping in my mom's apartment on the Upper West Side.
00:22:07.000 So much nature in New York.
00:22:08.000 Yeah, it was very nature-y.
00:22:10.000 We'd go down to the laundry room, be a bunch of cockroaches.
00:22:13.000 Sounds like good times.
00:22:14.000 We'd stomp them.
00:22:15.000 Joseph Trimmer, that was his name.
00:22:16.000 We'd stomp them.
00:22:18.000 Three if by treachery.
00:22:20.000 You are live.
00:22:22.000 Hey, can you guys hear me?
00:22:25.000 Alright, thanks for taking the call.
00:22:28.000 I really enjoy listening to you guys pretty much every night.
00:22:32.000 You mentioned at the start of the show, I think Tim was mentioning it, that the elites, or the powers that be, or the theys that we like to refer to them, they're really losing narrative control on a variety of big issues.
00:22:47.000 You can think of Epstein, or vaccines, or election integrity, or globalism.
00:22:53.000 And it's, if you look at this loss of narrative control, it's happening faster than ever.
00:22:59.000 And my question is, when did this start?
00:23:03.000 Like, when did the seeds of this narrative control, when were they planted?
00:23:08.000 When did it really start in earnest?
00:23:11.000 Did it happen before Trump?
00:23:12.000 Something like the Tea Party Revolution?
00:23:14.000 Did it happen during Trump's candidacy and then his presidency?
00:23:18.000 Or did it happen really after the stolen election, right?
00:23:22.000 Because I think You know, people are really getting off their behinds right now.
00:23:27.000 That's what you're saying.
00:23:29.000 When did the narrative control start?
00:23:30.000 Is that the question?
00:23:32.000 When did the loss of the narrative control happen, right?
00:23:38.000 At what point did we start saying, and in mass, people start saying, hey, no, we're not buying this anymore.
00:23:44.000 We're not buying what you guys have to sell.
00:23:48.000 I feel like Trump was the big awakening call.
00:23:52.000 That's definitely been what I can see in my lifetime, right?
00:23:55.000 And I think Trump is the leader of a lot of ideas that were bubbling for a long time.
00:24:00.000 So I think probably someone else who's older than me might have a different point.
00:24:04.000 It's the internet and it starts with people like Alex Jones and a lot of these alternative media channels that found a way to get a message out through the internet.
00:24:14.000 And those were the seeds.
00:24:15.000 The seeds of Alex Jones eventually turned into the presidency of Donald Trump.
00:24:20.000 Interesting.
00:24:20.000 Got it.
00:24:21.000 Do you think it's and I had a second part to the question, which was, is it, you know, and you mentioned it there.
00:24:27.000 It's not necessarily with Trump.
00:24:29.000 It's it's it was before that.
00:24:32.000 Do you think it's sustainable?
00:24:34.000 Right.
00:24:34.000 Because I worry about the future of the country.
00:24:37.000 And obviously, if Trump was the cause, then when the candidate goes away, does this, you know, does kind of this peeling back of the Trump is the result.
00:24:47.000 Trump is the result.
00:24:49.000 Right.
00:24:49.000 So you can't erase the memories of an entire generation.
00:24:53.000 Yeah.
00:24:54.000 That's why when you look at Gen Z and all their weird woke bullshit, there's no curing these people.
00:25:00.000 This is what they are.
00:25:01.000 They're programmed.
00:25:06.000 Got it.
00:25:08.000 Yeah.
00:25:10.000 Civil war, because Gen Z has a weird crackpot one third of their generation, which is a bunch of retards.
00:25:16.000 And most of them are normal, and then a lot of them are based.
00:25:20.000 But they're not going to stop having these views.
00:25:23.000 And so there is going to be a bifurcation in American culture to an extreme degree that results in far left violence.
00:25:28.000 But yeah.
00:25:30.000 I've never really thought about that question before, though, until just now, and I think, all excellent points, and I would maybe even argue it started with social media, in terms of people having a voice and doing that, and that's why they started censoring people.
00:25:43.000 You've got to remember, in the early days of social media, there was no censorship.
00:25:46.000 If you had 3,000 followers, 3,000 people saw your stuff, or however many they shared and everything, and so they started the censorship because I feel like we were getting our alternative views out there, if you will.
00:25:58.000 I think it was mostly just fear of advertisers.
00:26:01.000 There were things that were deemed socially acceptable and things that weren't.
00:26:04.000 And they were looking at what generated the most algorithmic boost, which included white nationalism and intersectional feminism.
00:26:11.000 But white nationalism generates fear from advertisers, so they all opted to go woke.
00:26:16.000 At the same time, Websites across all countries saw a massive explosion in woke concepts, racism, privilege, in all countries.
00:26:25.000 And it was because it was socially acceptable, advertisers would pay for it, and it generated rage.
00:26:30.000 There you go.
00:26:31.000 Alright, well, thanks for calling in, buddy.
00:26:32.000 Cheers, mate.
00:26:34.000 Thank you, guys.
00:26:35.000 Of course.
00:26:36.000 Alright, Bush Doctor.
00:26:38.000 Bushmon, how you doing?
00:26:44.000 Nope, he's still muted.
00:26:45.000 Oh, did I unmute?
00:26:46.000 Oh, there you go.
00:26:47.000 Oh, there you go.
00:26:48.000 Sorry about that.
00:26:48.000 I thought I clicked it.
00:26:53.000 Hey, thanks for taking my question.
00:26:54.000 This is actually a mash-up question from myself and Bree Hawk for the entire panel.
00:27:00.000 She had to go to bed, so we combined our questions.
00:27:02.000 Right on.
00:27:04.000 So you touched on the subject a little bit earlier in the show.
00:27:07.000 Tim has discussed Dent Internet Theory before.
00:27:09.000 We got proof of big tech collusion during the 2020 campaign from the Twitter files.
00:27:14.000 Long history of intelligence agencies destabilizing foreign governments using social media sock puppets.
00:27:20.000 It seems to be ramping up to a level that we couldn't have even imagined with the swarm of AI-driven propaganda bots that we're already seeing in 2024.
00:27:29.000 So here's a question.
00:27:32.000 It seems that the average American is tragically unaware of social media engineering, uh, both in elections and overall public opinion.
00:27:40.000 What can we possibly do to drag these bad actors, who are so much more well-funded and better organized, into the light for John Q. Public to see what's really going on?
00:27:51.000 I mean, how do we psy-op the psy-op?
00:27:53.000 We're doing it, though.
00:27:54.000 Like, the narrative control is breaking.
00:27:56.000 It's not working anymore.
00:27:58.000 I don't know what else to say other than keep on keeping them.
00:28:01.000 So posting on social media, sharing stories, the human culture has broken their narrative machine and they're in
00:28:09.000 free fall.
00:28:10.000 I mean, do you think we're going to be able to keep up with the fact that they're now using AI to drive their
00:28:17.000 narratives?
00:28:20.000 The A.I.
00:28:20.000 thing is not an issue of any one person.
00:28:22.000 is an apocalyptic scenario for everybody.
00:28:22.000 The A.I.
00:28:25.000 But the fact that Elon Musk bought Twitter and turned it into X, I'm not concerned about narrative control.
00:28:31.000 A.I.
00:28:32.000 is not about narrative control.
00:28:33.000 A.I.
00:28:33.000 is that no one will be able to do anything.
00:28:34.000 Everyone will be paralyzed.
00:28:35.000 Maybe that's a good thing, to be honest.
00:28:37.000 If everything is fake, then there's no narrative control, and there's no machine, and it's just... The internet is dead, and you'll have to go outside and talk with your neighbors.
00:28:47.000 The horror of talking with your neighbors.
00:28:51.000 Yeah.
00:28:51.000 I totally agree.
00:28:53.000 Yeah, go ahead.
00:28:53.000 Sorry.
00:28:55.000 No, I didn't mean to interrupt.
00:28:56.000 I mean, I'm with, you know, I'm with you on the fact that civil war is like sadly inevitable.
00:29:04.000 I agree that we can't reach most of these people who are already programmed, but, you know, I want to pull as many over to our side as possible.
00:29:11.000 And I think last time I was on the show, I asked Libby, like what we can do to reach out to women more.
00:29:17.000 to bring them over and for those people who can be deprogrammed.
00:29:21.000 So, I don't know Libby if you want to follow up with that and how like from the women's
00:29:26.000 perspective of how we're Bring women over?
00:29:29.000 I mean, this is going to sound sexist, but basically marry them and have families with them, and then they will be conservative.
00:29:40.000 Or they'll be a lot closer to conservative than they would be as single, weed smoking, vaping, masturbating, late sleeping.
00:29:51.000 Chelsea Handler-inspired women.
00:29:53.000 Chelsea Handler-inspired women, exactly.
00:29:56.000 But that's the way to do it.
00:29:58.000 You know how you become conservatives?
00:29:59.000 You grow the fuck up.
00:30:01.000 So all these women need to grow up, just like so many of these men do.
00:30:05.000 And put down the bong.
00:30:08.000 Put down the knives.
00:30:09.000 Put down the bong.
00:30:11.000 Yeah.
00:30:13.000 That's what I would say.
00:30:16.000 I think it's going to be funny when there's like this wave of women who discover like trad wife living and then we've already seen some of them where they're like, I was told to be a feminist and it sucked.
00:30:27.000 What the fuck?
00:30:28.000 I want to be a wife and like have kids and have my husband work and wow, that sounds so amazing.
00:30:33.000 It's going to be funny when that's just the dominant Instagram trend.
00:30:36.000 I think there is a huge movement, especially on social media.
00:30:39.000 There are a lot of, you know, homemaker kind of content creators who talk about the fact that the labor they do at home is valuable, not only emotionally, psychologically, but also, you know, if you have to pay to put your kid in daycare, that's an expense, right?
00:30:53.000 I mean, I had a co-worker at a previous job who this was the conversation, right?
00:30:58.000 Well, basically my job covers all of daycare for our one kid, plus a little bit extra.
00:31:03.000 So if we have a second kid, it's not going to cover that, it's actually going to be more expensive.
00:31:07.000 At some point, all of the things that women do in the domestic space, like homemaking, balancing budgets, grocery shopping, whatever, That's actually valuable and should be treated that way.
00:31:17.000 And there was a time, I mean, remember that we had the Bureau of Home Economics when that was the case.
00:31:21.000 And I think women are waking back up to the fact that they have inherent value and they don't have to seek it through corporate affirmations and a paycheck if they're able to swing that.
00:31:29.000 Not all families can have a wife.
00:31:31.000 Well, and that the lifestyle is worthwhile.
00:31:33.000 It's a worthwhile lifestyle.
00:31:34.000 I had such a, I had a different upbringing.
00:31:37.000 I had a step-mom who was basically wanted to be a stay-at-home mom.
00:31:42.000 She wanted to have kids.
00:31:43.000 She was unable to have children and so there was me and there was my brother who was adopted and then I had my mom who was like very successful, you know, corporate attorney, high-powered, lived in New York, you know, and I grew up living with my dad and my stepmom until I moved in with my mom later and her like whole separate family, new family and stuff because Cause that's the 20th century.
00:32:05.000 That's what we got.
00:32:07.000 But they had very, they both thought that they were, they both felt that they were feminist to a large degree.
00:32:14.000 And my stepmom was constantly infuriated at how the homemaker's work was undervalued and was looked down upon.
00:32:23.000 And my mom was always kind of like, I don't know how to cook and I would never stay home.
00:32:29.000 And you know, I eat out at late kitchens and whatever else.
00:32:33.000 And it was very interesting to see, as a young woman, as growing up, as a kid, knowing how much I valued my stepmom being home with me and taking care of me and always making a birthday cake on my birthday, which was in the early, it was like early in the school year before you really got to make friends and stuff, because I was always switching schools, whatever.
00:32:57.000 But it was so important to me that she was there.
00:32:59.000 She was there to, like, tell me to do my homework and, like, you know, make sure that I was taken care of and make sure that there was dinner.
00:32:59.000 Yeah.
00:33:06.000 And treat you like a priority, right?
00:33:08.000 Treat me like a priority.
00:33:09.000 And I'd go to my mom's and, you know, it was like, go to summer camp, I'm going to work, this and that.
00:33:14.000 You were an inconvenience the whole way.
00:33:15.000 It was very different.
00:33:16.000 And I know my mom loves me, but... We should get to the next car.
00:33:19.000 Sorry.
00:33:20.000 Indeed.
00:33:21.000 Thanks again.
00:33:22.000 Yeah.
00:33:23.000 I just want to give a quick shout out to my wife, who is that awesome trad con lady.
00:33:28.000 I don't even know where the silverware is in my house, so.
00:33:32.000 Right on.
00:33:33.000 Hell yeah, brother.
00:33:35.000 That's a very manly thing to say.
00:33:37.000 I don't know where the silverware is.
00:33:38.000 A real Bushman.
00:33:40.000 That's cool.
00:33:41.000 Go ahead.
00:33:41.000 I'm sorry.
00:33:42.000 That's all I'm saying.
00:33:44.000 Okay, let's start.
00:33:45.000 The manliest thing you can say is I have no idea where my washing machine is.
00:33:50.000 I couldn't make a sandwich if my life depended on it.
00:33:53.000 I mean, that's kind of pathetic, though, yes?
00:33:56.000 We really have created a toxic culture, though, to where women, they feel like they have to be independent, and to the point of, like, I don't need a man, you know?
00:34:05.000 Well, there's being independent, and then there's I don't need a man.
00:34:07.000 They're not the same thing.
00:34:08.000 Correct.
00:34:08.000 And I'll just say, for me, I don't think there's anything more valuable than a woman who is motherly and wants to do that.
00:34:15.000 And people forget, they hear this thing, oh, I don't need a man, I don't want to submit to a man or whatever, but they forget the other side of that is a good man who's has a wife like that, they are putting her on a pedestal and treating her the way that she needs to be treated.
00:34:26.000 I gotta give a warning to Vlasic, okay?
00:34:29.000 The pickles?
00:34:30.000 They need to be lobbying right now for masculinity because if it really does become an I-don't-need-no-man world, Vlasic goes out of business overnight.
00:34:41.000 Pickle industry is starting because women can't open the jars.
00:34:44.000 Okay, I do ask my 13-year-old son to open jars.
00:34:47.000 That is true.
00:34:49.000 No women are going to be like, I don't need no man.
00:34:51.000 And they're going to sit there trying to open the pickle jar and then go, I didn't want pickles anyway.
00:34:54.000 Then they're going to be anti-pickles.
00:34:59.000 Every feminist knows that pickle jars were made by men to uphold the patriarchy.
00:35:06.000 It's true.
00:35:07.000 Let's grab this next caller.
00:35:08.000 Oppressive jars indeed.
00:35:11.000 Liam the Censor.
00:35:12.000 Hello.
00:35:13.000 My brother's name is Liam.
00:35:14.000 How are you?
00:35:15.000 I'm well, good to be back on the show.
00:35:17.000 I kind of wish Phil was here so I could throw the Christian nationalist thing in, but we'll get there when we get there.
00:35:24.000 So I have a question for Derek Evans.
00:35:27.000 So I read on your website, among the issues that you advocate for, you want to strengthen our NATO alliances and also combat Chinese aggression and infiltration.
00:35:40.000 So my question is, why should we continue to support NATO, something that, in my opinion, for what little that's worth, is obsolete at this point, when we could instead withdraw funding from Ukraine and seek to mend relations with Russia, who honestly would probably serve as a better check against China.
00:35:57.000 Well, first of all, I'm glad you brought that up.
00:35:58.000 And honestly, I haven't looked at that in a really long time.
00:36:01.000 And I think we need to update that because I agree with you.
00:36:03.000 I think we do need to.
00:36:04.000 And as far as China, man, we've got to, we have China right now buying land in our country.
00:36:10.000 I don't think they should be allowed to buy land.
00:36:11.000 I think we need to get ahead of them.
00:36:13.000 Attempting to own natural resources, so they should be owning coal or oil or natural gas and it's not just China for that matter.
00:36:20.000 No foreign country should be allowed to own any sort of land or any natural resource in America.
00:36:26.000 It's a matter of national security and I think that we need to do this at the federal level and take this land back from China or any other country for that matter who's purchasing land in our country.
00:36:36.000 Yeah, I think you're right.
00:36:37.000 In the 80s, it was a big deal that the Japanese were buying stuff in New York, and everyone was like, no, you can't do that.
00:36:42.000 And now we're just letting China buy up swaths and swaths of land.
00:36:46.000 Well, you don't want to be racist, of course.
00:36:47.000 They want to buy it for totally benign reasons, and you're just crushing their ability to have the American dream.
00:36:53.000 Yeah, this is kind of anti-Sino of you.
00:36:54.000 Right, you realize the Roosevelt Hotel where New York is housing so many migrants, actually, the city of New York is leasing that From the Pakistani government or maybe Pakistani Airlines, which is probably backed by the government.
00:37:10.000 But anyway, we're leasing the Roosevelt Hotel to house migrants in from Pakistan.
00:37:15.000 Well, and people are not really discussing the farm issue either.
00:37:18.000 So, I mean, unfortunately, I don't really agree with the GMOs and all this stuff, but I mean, The seeds are technology at this point, and China is buying up farmland and buying up food, infrastructure, technology.
00:37:31.000 I don't either, but the fact that China is doing it should be another concern for us as Americans.
00:37:36.000 Why are we letting?
00:37:37.000 I would love to know why we're allowing this to happen.
00:37:39.000 Once again, why are we sending money to Ukraine, is the gentleman who just called and said.
00:37:43.000 Why'd we collapse our own border?
00:37:44.000 Yeah, we shouldn't be sending any.
00:37:46.000 I'm America first, 100%, and so I think that Americans are charitable people.
00:37:51.000 We're a Christian nation, charitable people.
00:37:54.000 The greatest grift and scam of all time is Zelensky, as far as I'm concerned.
00:37:58.000 But if they wanted to start a GoFundMe account, a lot of these bleeding-heart leftists could donate their own personal money to this if they wanted to do so, and I would support their freedom to do that.
00:38:08.000 But don't steal my money and then send it to another country when we have our own people who are hurting.
00:38:13.000 We have roads and bridges and infrastructure that's fallen apart, our own borders being invaded.
00:38:18.000 And we're over here, we have homeless veterans sleeping on the streets, we have people who are struggling in this country, and we're sending money to other countries.
00:38:24.000 It's absolutely despicable.
00:38:25.000 Yep, it is.
00:38:26.000 100%.
00:38:27.000 I don't know why we even let people buy so much property in New York, for instance, Libby.
00:38:31.000 They own all these buildings and then lease them back out to New Yorkers.
00:38:34.000 And a lot of times it's just empty buildings owned by one Saudi prince, and there's one person who's in the bottom who's a tenant, and it's really just there to make sure that it's legally within the rules of being a residential building.
00:38:43.000 It's insane, because it's made New York completely unaffordable.
00:38:46.000 You can't live in the cities anymore.
00:38:47.000 At all, anyways.
00:38:48.000 Just anyways.
00:38:49.000 And it's a travesty.
00:38:51.000 Like, this doesn't happen in other countries.
00:38:53.000 Like, not to the same degree.
00:38:54.000 It's only happening in America, really.
00:38:56.000 I mean, in London as well.
00:38:57.000 It happens in London, too.
00:38:57.000 People go to London and buy these places and don't live in them.
00:38:59.000 It's just... I don't understand it.
00:39:01.000 It's like the new way of invading.
00:39:04.000 It's a new way of colonizing, if you will.
00:39:06.000 Well, it is.
00:39:06.000 I mean, what if they... I mean, as of right now, they technically could.
00:39:09.000 What if they bought the entire state of West Virginia?
00:39:11.000 China did.
00:39:13.000 Would you sell it to them?
00:39:14.000 No, I mean, I wouldn't sell anything.
00:39:15.000 I'm just saying, I'm just saying like, you know what I mean?
00:39:18.000 Like for instance, or an entire county or an entire, I mean, what would happen?
00:39:21.000 I mean, we're letting these people sit here and own land in our, in our country.
00:39:25.000 And this is, I mean, it's honestly mind blowing that we're even having this conversation right now.
00:39:31.000 Like, I mean, it's really crazy.
00:39:33.000 We're having a conversation where, I mean, it's like, to your point, instead of them invading us, they're just purchasing it.
00:39:37.000 Yeah, that's what they're doing in Africa, too.
00:39:38.000 They're buying all these different places, especially in South Africa.
00:39:41.000 They're building basically like a classic Chinese walk-up, and it doesn't fit into the architecture.
00:39:48.000 It doesn't sit in the same place.
00:39:49.000 It's a completely different thing.
00:39:50.000 It's just everyone in Africa, the continent of Africa, can agree like, The Chinese are here, suddenly, and they're just building stuff.
00:39:58.000 I mean, it's more cost-effective.
00:39:59.000 Wars are expensive.
00:40:00.000 They can just come over and buy the land.
00:40:02.000 And that's what they're doing right now.
00:40:02.000 It's just the Belt and Road Initiative, you know, just make friendships as opposed to... Well, and that comes back to the other thing, is we've got to start bringing back our own manufacturing here in this country.
00:40:11.000 We're so dependent.
00:40:12.000 I mean, if for some reason we were to get into a war with China, do you think that they would see how they're going to make stuff and send it to us?
00:40:20.000 Of course not.
00:40:21.000 So this is a bigger issue, and that's one of the good things that came out of COVID was was kind of showing the supply chain issues that we're dealing with right now and how we're dependent on our enemies for so many different basic ways of life in our country.
00:40:34.000 Yeah.
00:40:35.000 Anything else to add to that, Liam?
00:40:39.000 No, I appreciate you all taking my call.
00:40:43.000 Real quick, I just want to shout out College Republicans at Marshall.
00:40:45.000 I am the chair of Marshall at West Virginia.
00:40:49.000 Marshall University.
00:40:50.000 Yes.
00:40:50.000 Yep.
00:40:51.000 Yeah.
00:40:51.000 So if you guys ever want to come down, host any events, feel free to reach out to me.
00:40:55.000 I try to be as much of an open door as I can.
00:40:57.000 Leo, man.
00:40:58.000 Um, I don't know if you follow me on social media or see me at a DM or something or, uh, fill out the thing on our website and we'll reach out to you, man.
00:41:04.000 I'm right there in your backyard, just 30 minutes or so from, from Marshall and would love to come down and chat sometime.
00:41:09.000 And you're an alum, right?
00:41:09.000 Absolutely.
00:41:10.000 For sure.
00:41:10.000 Yeah.
00:41:11.000 Go heard, man.
00:41:11.000 We are Marshall.
00:41:13.000 Thank you so much.
00:41:14.000 Right on, thanks for calling in.
00:41:16.000 Alright, cheers.
00:41:17.000 Let us talk to Rocket Gamer.
00:41:21.000 How are you today?
00:41:22.000 I'm doing pretty well, thanks for taking my call.
00:41:25.000 I'm a first-time caller and I've been consistently listening to you guys since the Whoistheythough incident.
00:41:31.000 Nice, nice.
00:41:33.000 I was watching that last night, it was a great moment.
00:41:34.000 You were watching it last night?
00:41:35.000 Yeah, I had to watch it last night, I don't know why I was watching it again, but great moment.
00:41:41.000 My question is, you know, according to the recent polls we've been all talking about, Gen Z males are becoming conservative at a rapid rate comparatively with previous history.
00:41:52.000 This question I have is, do you think that the male preference for playing video games, especially during their developmental period around 2010, Playing games like multiplayer shooters, MOBAs, MMOs, and other multiplayer games isolated males in their own communities and environments that was not politically correct and somewhat meritocratic because, you know, I have to be good at playing video games.
00:42:17.000 And that's what's contributing to the political shifts we're seeing as, you know, modern woke leftist culture is completely against, you know, The older games we've been playing that we grew up with.
00:42:30.000 I think it's just male versus female.
00:42:33.000 Dudes found dude spaces.
00:42:34.000 You don't have to be the best gamer to be on Call of Duty saying you're gonna fuck some guy's mom.
00:42:38.000 People were just, that's what they were doing.
00:42:40.000 And it was because it was a male-dominated space.
00:42:42.000 These gaming companies got mad because they were like, women don't want to be in a space where guys are yelling at them all the time.
00:42:47.000 And women would post videos where they're like, if you're playing a shooter and they find out you're a woman, It just gets all weird and they start saying nasty shit or then one guy white knights and then it's just you're not playing the game anymore.
00:43:00.000 I think the reality is a lot of politics is like Democrats are women and Republicans are men.
00:43:05.000 You look at the voting patterns and that's just typically the way it is.
00:43:08.000 It's like, not absolute, obviously there are some women who are Republican and some men who are Democrats, but voting patterns are basically women vote Democrat, men vote Republican.
00:43:18.000 A lot of the women who are Republicans that I've talked to, who are young, younger women who are Republicans, their dads were Republicans and they were raised conservative in a conservative household.
00:43:28.000 So if you have a weak, spineless jellyfish of a father, you're going to get a slutty, drug-addicted daughter.
00:43:35.000 And if you have a strong, you know, moral, hardworking man who rolls up his sleeves, you're going to have a wholesome, successful family.
00:43:45.000 In general.
00:43:46.000 Pretty hard to argue.
00:43:47.000 No, but there are a lot of women who escaped bad families and find the light figuratively and literally.
00:43:52.000 And there are people who are raised in deeply conservative homes.
00:43:54.000 Who become drug addicts.
00:43:55.000 Whatever, yeah.
00:43:56.000 But I think it's a tendency.
00:43:58.000 You know, daddy issues is the trope.
00:44:00.000 Women with daddy issues end up becoming all weird and, you know.
00:44:03.000 Yeah, I think I think there's mommy issues too for guys I think we talked about this before we often talk about how if you don't have a dad You'll be a criminal.
00:44:11.000 You'll be a drug addict I think there's issues of not having a mom that we don't track properly because it's it's we don't care to see the results like nobody cares if a dude is Like, emotionally cold, distant, but he's a great runner and he makes a lot of money.
00:44:28.000 He doesn't do drugs, he doesn't break the law, and we're like, what a good guy.
00:44:31.000 And then you try and talk to him and he's a block of ice.
00:44:34.000 Like, nobody tracks that and says that's bad, but it is bad for society if people are not getting the motherly qualities from the other side of it.
00:44:40.000 Well, and I think for men, I talked to Seamus about this one time on his Podcast, I think for men, they there is a natural biological instinct to sort of guard against emotions to have, you know, to show signs of aggression, but not necessarily anything else.
00:44:56.000 And, and the mother figures help regulate emotions.
00:44:59.000 That's what they're there for.
00:45:00.000 It's good to have that.
00:45:01.000 And eventually, like, When you're dating someone, if you're dating a guy and he is okay with showing you his emotions, that's a good thing.
00:45:08.000 That's a healthy bond.
00:45:09.000 And I think we have a society that has sort of confused what men are supposed to be doing at times where, like Tim is saying, we don't acknowledge that, like, there are appropriate times and places for men to feel very deeply and, you know, have whatever.
00:45:24.000 And so you have the opposite, which is like this desire for masculinity, but a not...
00:45:31.000 You have corrupt people saying like well this is the only way to be masculine, you're supposed to act like this, you're supposed to treat people like this and that's how you show dominance and that's the only version of masculinity and so to a certain extent the internet tries to fill the voids that really strong parents, you need strong parents to fill.
00:45:48.000 I almost wonder if, you know, my generation, they pushed everybody into college, right?
00:45:52.000 And so we went into college and we know we got the indoctrination and stuff going on, but I think it's deeper than that.
00:45:57.000 The current generations, there's a big gap right now in the skills, like in the trades, jobs.
00:46:03.000 And when people who are working in the trades, by nature, are probably going to be more conservative.
00:46:07.000 They're going to be a little bit more masculine.
00:46:08.000 They're getting calluses on their hands, if you will.
00:46:10.000 They're actually working and doing stuff.
00:46:12.000 And so I think that leads to being more conservative, more masculine.
00:46:17.000 And I don't know if that's the answer, but I would love to see a little bit of more research on that.
00:46:22.000 Because like I said, in my generation, everybody had to, you were told you had to go to college.
00:46:25.000 You can even flip burgers if you want to go to McDonald's.
00:46:27.000 And now we create this huge gap in the trades.
00:46:30.000 And now you've got a lot of younger people in the, you know, 18, 19 to 24 year range, a lot bigger percentage of them are just stepping into jobs in the trades, which are actual blue collar, hardworking jobs.
00:46:39.000 Yeah, that's interesting.
00:46:42.000 Yeah, thank you for your input.
00:46:43.000 I mean, personally, what I've seen when I was growing up, because I'm obviously Gen Z, a lot of people who played video games did not participate in social media early on.
00:46:53.000 So I think that may have helped a little bit, but thank you guys for taking my call.
00:46:59.000 Glad to glad to call in and have a nice night, everyone.
00:47:02.000 Thanks for calling in.
00:47:03.000 Cheers, brother.
00:47:04.000 Appreciate you.
00:47:05.000 Woo.
00:47:06.000 That was fun.
00:47:07.000 Yeah.
00:47:07.000 Thanks for hanging out.
00:47:08.000 It's been a blast.
00:47:08.000 Yeah, man.
00:47:09.000 Thank you guys for having me.
00:47:09.000 Really appreciate it.
00:47:10.000 It's been awesome.
00:47:10.000 Right on.
00:47:11.000 And for everybody who is a member, thank you all for making it possible.
00:47:14.000 Pick up your cast brew coffee.
00:47:16.000 We've got a new promo code for... I should just say the promo code.
00:47:21.000 Yeah.
00:47:22.000 Should I just say it?
00:47:23.000 Should the promo code, yeah?
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00:47:26.000 It's not for us, it was for somebody else.
00:47:27.000 I can't say it, I can't, I can't, I can't.
00:47:29.000 The promo code is for tracking purposes, so I can't actually shout it out.
00:47:32.000 Oh, I see.
00:47:33.000 Tim's a promo code tease.
00:47:35.000 I'm sorry, guys.
00:47:36.000 Yeah, I was thinking like, oh, I'll just shout it out because people can start doing it, but I can't because the purpose of the promo codes, like basically it works.
00:47:43.000 We want, yeah, we, so we've, we've got some, some sponsor stuff.
00:47:46.000 Like Casper's going to be sponsoring some people.
00:47:48.000 So I, they have to shout it out.
00:47:50.000 So I, I, okay.
00:47:51.000 You know, I apologize.
00:47:52.000 Bye Casper anyway.
00:47:53.000 Thanks for hanging out.