Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - March 19, 2023


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If a nuclear attack on the United States were to happen, what would life be like underground? How many feet of concrete would you need to be buried to survive? How long would it take to build a nuclear bunker? And what would you do in the event of a nuclear strike on your home or business? We talk all about it in this weekend's episode of Sunday Uncensored.

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00:00:00.000 Welcome to our special weekend show, Sunday Uncensored.
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00:00:32.000 We were going to talk a little bit about Elon Musk and Steve Bannon as well.
00:00:36.000 But Ian started asking about how, what do you say, like how much feet of concrete do you need and how long do you got to be underground if a nuke hits?
00:00:43.000 Yeah, we're talking about Fortitude Ranch and how how life underground would be there.
00:00:46.000 You were saying it's not, I don't know, you don't go too deep on it.
00:00:49.000 Yeah, I mean, people have a conception kind of from the Cold War that you needed these deep underground bunkers to survive, and you don't.
00:00:56.000 I mean, you're a deep underground in the Air Force at an ICBM silo because, you know, the Russians are shooting penetrating high-yield nuclear weapons.
00:01:04.000 If you're in a remote area, you're very unlikely to have any nuclear weapon go off near you, and if you do, there's probably a ridge or something in between.
00:01:11.000 And the blast wave, I mean, a building might get knocked down, but a shallow underground shelter like we use basements, they're gonna be just fine.
00:01:20.000 When I went to Kiev, to go onto the subway is the most fucking insane thing ever.
00:01:27.000 You have to go down hundreds of feet, or like a thousand feet below the earth. 0.88
00:01:31.000 DC's like that too.
00:01:33.000 Is it?
00:01:33.000 Yeah, DC's got a really deep subway system.
00:01:36.000 Really?
00:01:36.000 They're probably trying to avoid water, and you know, there's so much stuff underground, they're going way under that.
00:01:41.000 But DC's like a swamp.
00:01:43.000 Like, I don't know how you dig deep into the earth there.
00:01:45.000 I could be wrong about that.
00:01:46.000 I think DC's kind of deep.
00:01:47.000 It would make sense, considering it's DC.
00:01:50.000 But the reason Ukraine's stations were built so deep is because it's all communists, and the communists were like, we're gonna make everything as efficient as possible. 0.91
00:01:57.000 So they were like, we need bomb- we need nuclear shelters.
00:02:00.000 We need trains.
00:02:02.000 Make it both.
00:02:03.000 Dig the trains extra deep.
00:02:04.000 That way, in the event of a nuclear strike, the trains don't stop running.
00:02:08.000 But again, a city is a nuclear target.
00:02:10.000 Rural areas, you don't have to worry about being deep underground.
00:02:13.000 And you don't want to be.
00:02:14.000 If there's a pandemic, the last thing in the world you want to be is deep underground, sharing air with other people.
00:02:20.000 So at Fortitude, you guys, the main concern is airbursts, nuclear airbursts that would drop fallout particles, dust particles on the ground.
00:02:27.000 Yeah, or nuclear reactors.
00:02:28.000 I mean, if there's a pandemic, the threat's not just the virus, so people aren't coming to work.
00:02:33.000 So imagine you work in a nuclear power station, avian flu, H5N1 is spreading, 60% lethal, maybe only 20% lethal.
00:02:40.000 You don't come to work.
00:02:41.000 What happens if there's an operating nuclear power plant and none of the people come to work?
00:02:47.000 Shitty bad things happen.
00:02:48.000 I mean, you can't just turn the switch off of a nuclear power plant.
00:02:51.000 It takes a lot of people and a lot of time to safely shut those things down.
00:02:57.000 So in a pandemic, you're going to have things like nuclear power meltdowns and radioactive fallout from that as well.
00:03:04.000 So you've got to be able to deal with fallout wherever you are.
00:03:07.000 So at 14 Ranch, we have multiple radiation detectors.
00:03:10.000 If it's fallout from a nuclear explosion, you'll see it.
00:03:12.000 I mean, it looks like ashes and dust.
00:03:15.000 So what we'll do is, you know, we'll put people inside, underground, but it's low-level radiation.
00:03:20.000 It's not going to kill you quickly.
00:03:22.000 It basically kills you by increasing your cancer rates over time if you're exposed for long periods of time.
00:03:27.000 But we won't be.
00:03:28.000 What we'll do is we'll put our masks on, gloves, chem-bio suits go out, and basically shovel up the ash.
00:03:35.000 Just a little bit into wheelbarrows, cart it off the property, and remove the radiation.
00:03:41.000 Use our radiation detectors to make sure there's not high levels of radiation.
00:03:44.000 Does the rain wash it away?
00:03:46.000 Well, rain washes it into the soil, so you still got it.
00:03:49.000 Wow.
00:03:49.000 So you have to shovel it right away.
00:03:51.000 You best want to get it off as soon as you possibly can.
00:03:54.000 Where do you take it?
00:03:55.000 Where do you do it?
00:03:55.000 Off our property.
00:03:58.000 What about some kind of like emergency canopy system to catch it?
00:04:02.000 Would that be easier?
00:04:03.000 No, because again, now it's catched in water.
00:04:06.000 You want to get it away from you.
00:04:07.000 So, you know, there's a ditch or ravine, dump it in there.
00:04:11.000 Radiation, again, it's all over radiation.
00:04:13.000 A couple feet of earth will shield you.
00:04:15.000 That's all you need.
00:04:17.000 My PhD dissertation was underground nuclear defense shelters and field fortifications for NATO troops.
00:04:23.000 And three feet of earth is all you need.
00:04:25.000 It'll stop the vast majority of radiation long-term.
00:04:28.000 And if you're removing it, then you don't even have to worry about being underground after that.
00:04:32.000 People don't understand this too, but water.
00:04:34.000 Water blocks radiation.
00:04:36.000 A lot of things, you know, a lot of things.
00:04:38.000 You can, uh, you can, if you dig, like if you had like a concrete block and then you filled the outer perimeter with water, that water is going to block a lot of radiation.
00:04:47.000 But if you're talking about, I imagine, um, blasts, then earth is way better.
00:04:51.000 Cause that's going to help stop the shock wave as well as the radioactivity or the, yeah, the radiation.
00:04:58.000 So you can deal with radiation and fallout.
00:05:00.000 If you know what you're doing, you've got the equipment, you've got the radiation detectors and the expertise, it's not that big of a threat.
00:05:05.000 You can handle it.
00:05:06.000 Do you have Faraday cages?
00:05:08.000 We do, but they're really... the threat from EMP, especially to cars, is really exaggerated.
00:05:14.000 And for radios as well.
00:05:16.000 The big threat to your radios, your ham radios, people leave their antennas connected.
00:05:20.000 Your antenna is a huge collector.
00:05:22.000 Any kind of EMP almost anywhere near you is going to fry your radio.
00:05:27.000 If you do, simply first just unplug the cables from your HF ham radios.
00:05:32.000 That will protect you a lot.
00:05:34.000 Now if you want to take that radio now and put it in a Faraday cage, a metal cage, but it doesn't have to be fancy.
00:05:40.000 You buy the metal trash cans at Walmart or Tractor Supply, that's a Faraday cage for you too.
00:05:46.000 Really?
00:05:47.000 Those work?
00:05:48.000 They do work.
00:05:49.000 Wow, I didn't know that.
00:05:50.000 So the EMP threat to cars, you know, people read the book one second after and they think, oh, my car is going to be ruined.
00:05:56.000 And I'm not talking about a Tesla electric car, but a normal fuel-injected car.
00:06:00.000 I've worked with Air Force engineering companies who work on EMP protection for the Air Force and Strategic Command, and they assure me that it is very difficult to knock a car out.
00:06:11.000 Why?
00:06:11.000 It's in a metal cage.
00:06:13.000 You know, so it's a metal cage shielding all its parts, so it's very, very difficult for EMP to take out a car.
00:06:19.000 So cars will work, even if there's an EMP effect and if they're affected.
00:06:24.000 The engineer told me that they had such a hard time, the only way they could get a car to be hit by EMP was if they connected a cable to the exhaust pipe and zapped it.
00:06:32.000 That's the only way you could get them.
00:06:34.000 And even then, it knocked the car off and it restarted.
00:06:37.000 So, the threat to cars, people are...
00:06:40.000 movies preppers even there it's it's greatly exaggerated your cars will work
00:06:44.000 in any is it just like a solar a giant solar flare that would
00:06:48.000 annihilate and fry every car no it uses any kind of computer
00:06:53.000 think back to the uh the carington event that was one in the 1800s
00:06:57.000 that was really bad and it affected telegraph poles So antennas, wires, they'll collect it.
00:07:03.000 That's why the electric system is so vulnerable.
00:07:05.000 All those big wires, they collect the solar flare EMP and it all comes into that big transformer and it literally blows them up.
00:07:13.000 It fries them.
00:07:15.000 So big antennas, that's your real threat.
00:07:18.000 If you're not connected to a big antenna or a wire, you probably aren't going to be fried by EMP.
00:07:23.000 So, like, your computer stuff, is it better to have it unplugged from the wall?
00:07:26.000 Is it more resilient if it's unplugged from the wall?
00:07:29.000 Much better to be unplugged from the wall, yes.
00:07:31.000 Okay.
00:07:32.000 But, you know, back up your system, back up your computer.
00:07:35.000 You know, most people aren't going to do that.
00:07:36.000 You're not going to think of it.
00:07:37.000 So, back up your computer system, keep that backup dry.
00:07:41.000 As Tim said, in a Faraday cage, simple trash can.
00:07:43.000 Now, putting it in the basement is better than, you know, on an upper floor.
00:07:47.000 But you put a backup computer, put your ex... if you got more than one HF radio, ham radio, stick all that extra electronic stuff in a trash can in the basement.
00:07:57.000 We got a lot of basements and underground shelters at Fortifood Ranch, so that's where we keep stuff.
00:07:57.000 And that's what we do.
00:08:03.000 But even if you've got a radio upstairs, as long as you disconnect the antenna.
00:08:06.000 And by the way, just one last detail.
00:08:09.000 On an HF radio, you normally have multiple antennas to select from.
00:08:12.000 You buy a selector switch.
00:08:14.000 You know, if you've got two antennas or three, buy a selector with four.
00:08:17.000 Then all you do is you switch to the there's no antenna there thing.
00:08:21.000 And so rather than having to unscrew your cables, you just switch to there's no antenna there.
00:08:26.000 And your radio is going to be pretty safe.
00:08:28.000 Bow fangs are cheap too, though.
00:08:30.000 Yeah.
00:08:30.000 Yeah.
00:08:31.000 30 bucks even for one of those cheap handheld ones.
00:08:33.000 Get a bow fang.
00:08:34.000 Yeah, but that's VHF, that's not HF, so that's not long range.
00:08:37.000 What's the best shortwave radio on the market, or a really good one?
00:08:42.000 Because I'm looking to get one.
00:08:43.000 Well if you're just listening, if all you're going to do is listening, you can buy cheap things, almost anything will work.
00:08:48.000 And that's another good thing to keep in your metal trash can in the basement.
00:08:52.000 If you want to transmit and operate, now you're going to spend $1,000 at least on a decent HF radio.
00:08:58.000 We use the ICOM 7300 is what Fortude Ranch has standardized.
00:09:04.000 It's a really nice 100 watt HF radio.
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00:10:09.000 I've got to look that up.
00:10:12.000 3700, sorry.
00:10:12.000 Does that have the Motorola connector?
00:10:15.000 Because I've got like, I've got like comms and like headset.
00:10:17.000 Yeah, it should.
00:10:18.000 It should have all that.
00:10:19.000 But the nice thing is it's got an auto tuner in it and you know, HF radio, you're bouncing out the atmosphere.
00:10:25.000 It's not automatic, but we've got it at Fort Hood Ranch with all our different locations is we're gonna have a net.
00:10:31.000 So at different times of the day we'll be trying on different frequencies to connect.
00:10:35.000 And we'll never get all of our locations to talk at the same time.
00:10:39.000 You can't do that.
00:10:40.000 It's just not feasible when you're scattered across the U.S.
00:10:43.000 But we should get times or frequencies of the day where everyone in the western U.S.
00:10:48.000 can reach Fortitude Ranch, Colorado.
00:10:50.000 Everyone on the east can reach Fortitude Ranch, Tennessee.
00:10:54.000 And now if they can connect, we can relay and do it.
00:10:56.000 And that's important because we've got doctors and clinics at every locations, but you know, we've got like one gynecologist at Fort Ranch, Texas.
00:11:04.000 So if there's some doc somewhere else has a patient and can't get a hold of the rest of the world, we can collaborate that way.
00:11:11.000 What about helipads and airstrips?
00:11:14.000 Airstrips are near us.
00:11:15.000 Helipads, you could land a helicopter at any of our locations.
00:11:18.000 You know, we got plenty of open area for that.
00:11:21.000 I won't tell you what airfields because we keep our locations secret, but most of our locations are near one.
00:11:27.000 14 inch Nevada is big and flat.
00:11:30.000 We actually have an airstrip under construction there.
00:11:33.000 Now, it's an airstrip where tail draggers can land easily.
00:11:36.000 It's a dirt field.
00:11:38.000 I fly a Diamond Star.
00:11:39.000 I might be able to land and take it off there.
00:11:41.000 There's a good chance I'm going to damage my undercarriage, but I can do a safe landing there.
00:11:46.000 I might not be able to take off with a normal plane.
00:11:49.000 Do you guys use handheld commo at all?
00:11:52.000 Yeah, for short range, for VHF and UHF, absolutely, you know, for guards to talk back and forth.
00:11:58.000 Is H5N1 your biggest concern when it comes to the 50 categories of collapse or whatever?
00:12:02.000 Pandemics are my biggest concern because they're so bad in effect.
00:12:06.000 I mean, if it's, you know, if China launched a nuclear attack on Los Angeles, that's a lot less threat to us than a pandemic.
00:12:14.000 A pandemic can, you know, look at this.
00:12:17.000 Can I get back this on?
00:12:18.000 This is Ray Kurzweil.
00:12:19.000 He's an artificial intelligence expert.
00:12:21.000 He's probably one of the most brilliant scientists of our era.
00:12:24.000 He was on an army science advisory group, and this is what he warned.
00:12:28.000 Pandemics, bioengineering is so easy to do, it's so widespread, and he compares it to nuclear weapons and he says it's far more destructive.
00:12:37.000 In a nuclear war, even a big Soviet or Chinese-U.S.
00:12:41.000 nuclear exchange, maybe we lose 10 million people.
00:12:44.000 When you've got a pandemic, no one's coming to work, there's no food production, that's where you get to these 90% fatality levels.
00:12:52.000 So pandemic's worse than a nuclear, big nuclear war, in terms of people who will die.
00:12:58.000 And is that assuming that there's no clean water?
00:13:00.000 It's just because there's no food production and people will be killing the marauding.
00:13:06.000 You'll either starve or you're going to be shot if you don't have the supplies and the ability to defend your supplies.
00:13:12.000 Like one of the things about COVID, the pandemic, I put it in air quotes, is because like, yeah, if there was no soap 0.96
00:13:18.000 and water, we all would have fucking died. 0.98
00:13:20.000 It would have been horrible. 0.99
00:13:21.000 But we all had clean water, and we were all able to clean ourselves up.
00:13:23.000 It was a non-event.
00:13:24.000 It was not a collapse event.
00:13:25.000 We said from the day one, COVID-19 is not a threat.
00:13:29.000 This is not going to cause a collapse.
00:13:31.000 You get banned on YouTube for saying that.
00:13:32.000 Well, I'm sorry, but the worst damage was from government restrictions and rules that they did.
00:13:38.000 It was not from the pandemic.
00:13:39.000 There was no collapse. 0.95
00:13:41.000 So speaking of government restrictions being a problem, if some shit hit the fan, there was like, people were trying to use their shortwave radios. 0.82
00:13:47.000 I think you're supposed to have a license. 0.96
00:13:49.000 Yeah, and a collapse, you don't need it.
00:13:50.000 Now, to practice on our net, yeah, we have all our ranch managers with their licenses, but in a collapse, no, there's no law.
00:13:57.000 You were talking about hunting or so earlier, you know.
00:14:00.000 You have to have a license to hunt.
00:14:02.000 Well, and a collapse, I'm sorry.
00:14:03.000 Oh, you're talking about following an animal to water.
00:14:06.000 Most animals are going to be wiped out in the first few days.
00:14:08.000 I mean, we're poaching every living creature around us.
00:14:12.000 Oh, pigeon's gone.
00:14:13.000 You know, we're shooting them, we're making deer jerky, we're shooting turkeys, we're shooting wild hogs in Texas.
00:14:19.000 People in New York are going to eat all the pigeons in one day.
00:14:22.000 They'll be gone very quickly, yeah.
00:14:24.000 And the rats.
00:14:24.000 Oh my god, Phil saw a rat the other night in D.C.
00:14:27.000 They're gonna go outside with a big net, they're gonna put a bunch of garbage on the ground, the pigeons will come, and they'll just chuck the whole net, it'll land on top of the pigeons, then you scoop it up, and then they'll just drag the pigeons, and they will eat pigeons.
00:14:37.000 So, are there situations where people are like, bets are off, I'm using my shortwave radio without a license, I'm hunting without a license, and then the government will still be like, no, it's over when we say it's over, we're gonna come find you.
00:14:48.000 There'll be no one to enforce that.
00:14:50.000 Hold on, the crazy thing that no one talks about, when you watch a show like The Last of Us, is the weapons innovation that's going to rapidly occur with no government regulations.
00:15:00.000 Everything we've been doing with our weapons, like I got the Sig M400 from Crowder, it's a 5.56.
00:15:06.000 Yeah, imagine if these companies and gunsmiths could do whatever they wanted without fear of the government coming after them.
00:15:15.000 There's going to be some crazy-ass innovation, rapidly!
00:15:18.000 We have all this knowledge on how to use these guns, how to make these guns, and restrictions, because they will throw you in a box. 0.99
00:15:25.000 But people are going to do some crazy-ass fucking shit the moment they get an opportunity to. 0.99
00:15:30.000 People are doing crazy-ass shit right now, and it'll come out as soon as there's nobody looking. 1.00
00:15:35.000 Yep. 0.99
00:15:36.000 I mean, the fact that 3D-printed guns... What was it?
00:15:39.000 The Liberator?
00:15:39.000 Was it the first one?
00:15:40.000 FG, uh, FG-9, uh, the fuck gun, FG-9C, fuck gun control. 1.00
00:15:45.000 Fuck gun control? 1.00
00:15:46.000 Yeah, FGC-9. 1.00
00:15:47.000 FGC, and it could shoot like one bullet and it would get damaged.
00:15:50.000 You can maybe get one or two.
00:15:51.000 Now they're really sophisticated in their, they got full auto.
00:15:54.000 Imagine what they can do with guns. 0.95
00:15:57.000 Yeah, but the problem is almost every company they source from all over the world and there is no sourcing from all over the world and it collapsed.
00:16:05.000 You may not be able to source locally.
00:16:06.000 So unless you got stuff stockpiled, your company's probably not going to produce.
00:16:11.000 No, for sure.
00:16:12.000 But once the government's out of the way, I'm saying, I'll put it this way, in Egypt during the 2013 revolution, they were making Pistol shotguns themselves. 0.97
00:16:23.000 They manufactured these break-action guns that you'd open up, put a shell in, and close, and then... People are gonna be doing crazy-ass shit with the stuff they find. 0.72
00:16:34.000 I'm just gonna pull that up. 0.64
00:16:35.000 You're gonna see stuff like grease guns, you know?
00:16:37.000 Things that are gonna be, like, fashioned from other things, that are gonna become a regular occurrence, that are gonna be easy to produce, that don't necessarily need, like, a forge.
00:16:44.000 Shinzo Abe was killed with a hand, you know, homemade gun in Japan. 0.99
00:16:50.000 And they're essentially... Yeah, check this shit out. 1.00
00:16:53.000 Look at this. 1.00
00:16:53.000 Local Egyptian guns. 1.00
00:16:55.000 12-gauge revolving shotguns made from bits of air rifles. 1.00
00:16:59.000 Look at this shit. 1.00
00:17:00.000 These people were just like, I am going to find a way to fucking shoot you. 1.00
00:17:04.000 Exactly. 1.00
00:17:05.000 Well, I think in a collapse, there'll be guns aplenty.
00:17:08.000 It's more the ammunition, the other stuff that'll be short.
00:17:11.000 I think people don't realize that you can't just put any, it's like video games.
00:17:14.000 You can't just walk and go on an ammo box and put in whatever ammo.
00:17:17.000 Y'all have seen the pipe shotguns too, right?
00:17:19.000 Yeah.
00:17:19.000 Zip guns and stuff.
00:17:20.000 I think things like potato guns, things like that, they're going to be, you know, way easier to just quickly build and that are pretty devastating, you know?
00:17:28.000 Yeah.
00:17:28.000 Like this thing.
00:17:29.000 Yup.
00:17:29.000 Grease gun.
00:17:31.000 Grease gun.
00:17:31.000 I mean, not really, but it's like the grease gun from World War II, or like this Bren gun.
00:17:35.000 It's a really simple design.
00:17:38.000 Lasts forever.
00:17:39.000 There's a video of a guy, he takes two pipes, and you put a tack in the back of one, and he just goes, boom!
00:17:45.000 And then it hits the tack, and then... Literal boomstick.
00:17:48.000 Yep.
00:17:48.000 Yeah.
00:17:49.000 Great.
00:17:49.000 Are there like levels of breakdown of where it's like one could be the power goes out and communications are down for two weeks or for unknown, but like the government's still fully operational or maybe like some areas of the country are down and they're like, we're going to act as if the power's out.
00:18:06.000 We're using our radio waves without licenses.
00:18:09.000 And then, but in DC, they're like, no, it's not, it's not down.
00:18:13.000 If, if, if the, if something goes down like that, you can use you.
00:18:17.000 You can use whatever you want, essentially, because the police are not going to be concerned with small-time people.
00:18:24.000 If you're using your walkie-talkie, UHF, and you don't have a license, no one cares.
00:18:32.000 No one's going to care.
00:18:33.000 You don't think they'd be like, we're going to we're going to find them and bring them to justice.
00:18:36.000 No, it's just such a little small potatoes.
00:18:38.000 Yeah, it's it's it's such a using a radio or something you're talking about.
00:18:43.000 Is that what you're talking about?
00:18:44.000 Shortwave radio, that kind of stuff.
00:18:46.000 Those laws, you know, it's no one's going to get no one's going to get Sighted for jaywalking.
00:18:51.000 You know, no one's gonna get sighted for using a Radio that's in the wrong frequency.
00:18:55.000 Yeah, like if the power goes out.
00:18:57.000 No, they're too worried about power lights No one's gonna get sighted.
00:18:59.000 They're too worried about continuity of government.
00:19:01.000 That's their focus Their focus is the government surviving.
00:19:06.000 They're all gonna go to Mount Weather and what's the other one?
00:19:09.000 Raven Rock.
00:19:11.000 Here's your point on continuity government, and that's one of the reasons why a collapse is worse for us, because that is a priority of government.
00:19:19.000 And they're number one priority.
00:19:21.000 So that means that, you know, a mayor of New York City who has a small security deal and a collapse, he gets augmented, because you've got to keep the mayor alive, right?
00:19:29.000 And now the city council.
00:19:31.000 And the governor always has state patrol people following him for security.
00:19:37.000 In a collapse they'll get more because they'll be worried about keeping the governor alive and the governor's worried about it.
00:19:42.000 And so there's going to be a lot more policemen, state patrol that are assigned to protecting the government authorities and it extends to the heads of agencies.
00:19:51.000 So FEMA's not just, FEMA's not focused on protecting you.
00:19:55.000 They're focused on running Mount Weather and protecting top government officials.
00:19:59.000 So there's less police and certainly less military and National Guard forces available to help you at a time where the threats are way up.
00:20:08.000 Your best bet is... And a collapse, no one, if you call the police, don't waste your time in a collapse calling the police.
00:20:13.000 They cannot help you.
00:20:14.000 They've got to protect all the local authorities.
00:20:17.000 They've got to protect hospitals and critical resources from looting that they don't want to lose.
00:20:21.000 Protect the police headquarters from being looted.
00:20:25.000 And there's no way in hell they're going to ever respond to a call from you for help.
00:20:28.000 Get to know your local sheriff.
00:20:31.000 Get to know your sheriff and, like, be an asset to your community.
00:20:37.000 So if you know the sheriff and the sheriff knows you, likely the sheriff's gonna be like, yo, we need bodies.
00:20:43.000 Ian, come down here.
00:20:45.000 And the sheriff's gonna deputize a shitload of people.
00:20:47.000 Right?
00:20:47.000 Because the sheriff's department doesn't have enough manpower to keep order if society breaks down.
00:20:56.000 Like if there's a lot of looting and stuff like that.
00:20:58.000 So if you're in a small town or a small area, you should know your local sheriff, not your police department.
00:21:05.000 Know your sheriff, because your sheriff will deputize.
00:21:08.000 Cops aren't the same thing as sheriff.
00:21:10.000 A lot of sheriffs are elected, so they're more beholden to the population.
00:21:16.000 They're more interested in what their constituents think and their opinions.
00:21:22.000 Get to know your sheriff.
00:21:23.000 Those are your law enforcement that you want to know.
00:21:25.000 Are there things that sheriffs don't have that we could provide in a situation like that?
00:21:31.000 Bodies. 0.57
00:21:33.000 Other than my own body?
00:21:34.000 Like, I got the radios.
00:21:35.000 They're stocked.
00:21:36.000 They're ready to go.
00:21:37.000 Like, I got the water.
00:21:38.000 I got the food.
00:21:38.000 Well, even just reporting.
00:21:39.000 Like, if you see a threat at your place and you can report that to them.
00:21:43.000 Hey, there's a marauder group.
00:21:44.000 They didn't bother us, but they're headed towards, you know, Moorfield or whatever.
00:21:49.000 And you can pass that on.
00:21:50.000 That would help.
00:21:51.000 Maybe video surveillance then?
00:21:53.000 That kind of thing would help.
00:21:53.000 Yeah, the thing is like you want to be, you want to be an asset to the community for what they already have planned.
00:22:01.000 So your best bet, again, talk to your sheriff, find out what your local, what your sheriffs are going to say.
00:22:09.000 Asking me what a hypothetical or asking someone else what a hypothetical, you know, what you would be, what would be needed in a hypothetical situation?
00:22:18.000 Who knows?
00:22:19.000 But, If you go and you get some first aid training, and you can do emergency services stuff, you can put on tourniquets, you can patch, you know, plug holes and stuff, that kind of stuff is valuable.
00:22:31.000 And those are things that you should know how to do.
00:22:33.000 That's one of the things, like every year I go and do handgun classes, or at least one firearms training class, and there's almost always first aid stuff included in it.
00:22:43.000 You should make sure that you have like, First aid, like you saw what I have in my bag or my jeep.
00:22:49.000 There's a bunch of, I've got like 10 tourniquets in my jeep at all times.
00:22:53.000 I've got a bunch of blowout kits.
00:22:56.000 And it's not just for like gunfights or whatever.
00:23:01.000 If there's an accident and someone has a bleed, that's a serious bleed, you need compression bandages.
00:23:07.000 You need tourniquets.
00:23:08.000 And all that stuff, like if I happen across a car accident, And someone has a compound fracture where their bone's sticking out, I can be of service to someone with that stuff.
00:23:18.000 It's valuable in like a real world scenario.
00:23:22.000 Like even taking like a woofer class, like a wilderness first responder class, you still have to take those to be a RAF guide.
00:23:26.000 If you don't take, if you don't know really simple things, you can lose somebody really quick.
00:23:32.000 It doesn't take long.
00:23:33.000 Hostile environment training, one of my favorite stories.
00:23:35.000 Another one.
00:23:36.000 And what they would do is they would use the trainees as Subjects in the training exercise we did one where I think the first one we did he was like we're gonna break you up onto groups and then groups are gonna go in one at a time and then Basically every they have a bunch of people standing in a market And they say your task is to go and meet up with your contact at this marketplace Figure out what this what what your source has to tell you because we're journalists or whatever and then report back to your boss
00:24:06.000 What they would do is, we would walk into this marketplace, and then randomly at some point, they would kidnap one of the members of the group, and invariably, no one noticed a member of their group went missing.
00:24:19.000 So for me, I was actually the guy who got kidnapped.
00:24:23.000 So we walk into the market, and then I hear a, And then I look to my left and the guy is on the other side of the building goes, come over here.
00:24:28.000 And I walk over and he goes, Hey, we're going to kidnap you.
00:24:30.000 All right, let's go.
00:24:31.000 And I was like, all right, cool.
00:24:32.000 And then I walked with him behind the building and he pulled out a cigarette smoke.
00:24:35.000 And he's like, so what are you doing?
00:24:36.000 I'm like, Oh, I work for this company.
00:24:37.000 He's like, Oh, that's cool.
00:24:38.000 And I was like, so what's going on?
00:24:38.000 He's like, we're going to see if they notice you're gone.
00:24:40.000 And I was like, Oh, okay.
00:24:42.000 And then he went over there and sure enough, they were like, who's gone?
00:24:45.000 Because they were like, we don't, they don't know me.
00:24:47.000 But that's the point.
00:24:47.000 When you're out with people, you don't know everybody.
00:24:50.000 Personally, you're not thinking about, my camera guy's name is John, I've known him for 50, no, you're like, they sent a camera guy.
00:24:55.000 Who was with us?
00:24:57.000 My favorite was when we went to a village, there was a disaster.
00:25:02.000 So you've been called in to provide aid, you're the closest people nearby, you got a first aid kit. 0.98
00:25:06.000 And so they told me to do whatever the fuck I wanted. 0.50
00:25:10.000 So what I did was when all of the people were yelling, like, so they have the journalists come in and the security forces and then the villagers were in on the gag. 0.99
00:25:20.000 They're all yelling.
00:25:21.000 I stayed away from everybody and was leaning up against the wall.
00:25:25.000 As they all started fighting, I walked up to one of the trainees, and I pickpocketed the radio from him, and then just left.
00:25:32.000 And went to the boss, and I was like, gave him the radio, I was like, here you go.
00:25:35.000 And then he started laughing, and he was like, yup.
00:25:37.000 And then, with the trainees, they were supposed to call in in the case of an emergency, and the guy goes, starts filling his pocket, and he's like, my radio's gone!
00:25:47.000 The radio's gone!
00:25:48.000 The radio's gone!
00:25:48.000 And then they're like, yeah, you're all dead.
00:25:50.000 You weren't paying attention.
00:25:51.000 Your communications are cut out.
00:25:53.000 You're surrounded by hostile.
00:25:54.000 That's it, you're done.
00:25:56.000 And like the location they set it up was on a mountain with only two points of entry because there was a building.
00:26:04.000 And then you had to walk through a narrow path into this back area where it's almost a sheer cliff down.
00:26:10.000 And then one path in and out.
00:26:12.000 Now like, you are now cornered, trapped with no communications.
00:26:15.000 It sounds like you're talking about situational awareness, and like the buddy system.
00:26:19.000 Is that something that's encouraged?
00:26:22.000 100%!
00:26:23.000 Everyone has one other person.
00:26:24.000 And you hold hands.
00:26:25.000 And you sing.
00:26:27.000 But like, that way, if one guy goes missing, someone at least knows who that one guy was.
00:26:32.000 In the military they call it battle buddies.
00:26:34.000 You've got a person that's with you.
00:26:36.000 Or wingmen.
00:26:37.000 Air force, yeah.
00:26:39.000 But yeah, like, it's super important to have people that, someone that knows you.
00:26:45.000 Right?
00:26:46.000 You and one other person that you know him, he knows you, and situations like Tim's saying, like, they tend to tell people to count and just know the number.
00:26:56.000 And you do a count all the time, right?
00:26:58.000 So if there's 10 of you, everyone has a number and everyone goes, just count down.
00:27:01.000 Just so long as there's 10, then okay, all the bodies are here.
00:27:05.000 Like, I was talking about, like, have stuff.
00:27:07.000 This stuff right here, this is a blowout kit.
00:27:10.000 This is a tourniquet.
00:27:11.000 And then these for, for, for getting into people's clothes and stuff.
00:27:14.000 This stuff stays with me all the time.
00:27:16.000 This everywhere.
00:27:18.000 This goes everywhere.
00:27:19.000 What's the blowout?
00:27:21.000 What's the blowout kit?
00:27:22.000 Blowout kit is, is for, it's for if there's like a gunshot or an arterial bleed.
00:27:26.000 So if you're bleeding out.
00:27:27.000 So this is for a tourniquet.
00:27:29.000 Pack the wound. 0.72
00:27:30.000 And then this has got the stuff you have to shove gauze and stuff.
00:27:33.000 They got bandages nowadays that have the blood clotting agent.
00:27:37.000 You just put that on and it's not just gauze and pressure, it's got the blood clotting agent right in it.
00:27:43.000 It's really, really nice.
00:27:44.000 And they're not that expensive.
00:27:45.000 You can buy them in bulk.
00:27:47.000 This stuff right here costs less, like all this stuff here costs less than 100 bucks.
00:27:52.000 Right?
00:27:52.000 And it's, if someone, if there's an accident or something like that, I've got this with me
00:27:57.000 on top of, again, the stuff that you saw in my Jeep.
00:28:00.000 And it's like, that's the kind of stuff that you should do if you're thinking about like,
00:28:04.000 I'm gonna be a prepared kind of guy.
00:28:06.000 I think this stuff is necessary.
00:28:07.000 If you carry a gun, you should have this stuff.
00:28:09.000 If you're going to put, if you're going to say that I'm prepared to put bullet holes in someone, then you should be prepared to fix holes.
00:28:14.000 On a, on another note, I carry a battery in my car, like an external charging battery to jump cars with.
00:28:21.000 I think they say careful with those.
00:28:22.000 Cause if they get too hot, they can explode.
00:28:24.000 But like the value of having one just to be able to jump my own car.
00:28:28.000 Or other people's like, whoa, maybe that's a good idea.
00:28:31.000 You should be as self-sufficient as you can be because at the very least, then you're
00:28:35.000 not relying on somebody else.
00:28:37.000 If you take that woofer training, for instance, you'll know how to help yourself in the case
00:28:40.000 that you get hurt.
00:28:41.000 You know, if you are injured or whatever, you are a liability for everybody.
00:28:46.000 Like they say, the easiest way to cripple an army is not to kill troops.
00:28:49.000 That means they have one less person to worry about, one less head to feed, but to wound and injure and maim. 0.52
00:28:54.000 That's how you cripple an army, because you have to take care of the next guy.
00:28:56.000 You know, it makes it so much worse.
00:28:58.000 So if you can take care of yourself, even to a little degree, you know, yeah, that's going to help a lot.
00:29:02.000 Back to your point on sheriffs, I mean, I don't know if you've talked about it on the show, but have you been noticing all the sheriffs in rural county areas have been saying, we're not going to enforce the state gun control laws?
00:29:12.000 I don't know if you've had the Constitutional Sheriffs Association on your show, but you might want to get someone from them to come on your show.
00:29:20.000 Because they understand that you want to have your citizens having a lot of arms, because that's part of your force to help protect you.
00:29:28.000 And these people are going to die so fast.
00:29:29.000 I mean, outsiders from the big cities are going to have to get out, they're going to 0.98
00:29:30.000 Yep.
00:29:33.000 have to go into the rural areas to survive, and they survive by stealing, looting, and
00:29:38.000 killing the local residents.
00:29:41.000 And these people are going to die so fast. 0.99
00:29:44.000 These urban liberal types who are going to start starving and suffering, what they're
00:29:48.000 going to do is they're going to have meetings and be like, we need food, and they're going 0.99
00:29:51.000 to be like, we don't have any, and they're going to be like, well this is bullshit, where 0.98
00:29:55.000 They're like, we're gonna have to go and take it from somebody. 0.98
00:29:58.000 And then you're gonna have a bunch of weak, limp-wristed people getting guns from the police, morbidly obese police officers, okay, a bit of exaggeration, but out of shape and obese officers being like, Well, I guess we can go try.
00:30:11.000 Then you're gonna have rural police and rural country folk who chop wood all day, who have guns.
00:30:16.000 Not all of them, but more likely.
00:30:18.000 So when the, you know, former military, the veterans, are guarding, say, Fortitude Ranch, and they see some waddling fat, you know, urban liberals who are desperate and starving, I'm pretty sure who's gonna win that gunfight. 0.90
00:30:31.000 Well, the dumb people will die early, but you know, eventually if the collapse lasts a long time, it'll be smart marauder groups. 0.95
00:30:39.000 Right. 1.00
00:30:39.000 I just mean like in the immediate after the city's fall, you're gonna have morons. 1.00
00:30:44.000 Then I think you'll see the prisoners will, they already have gangs. 0.99
00:30:48.000 The gangs will operate as gangs and they will use the prisons.
00:30:51.000 Here's the thing.
00:30:52.000 You know what keeps these prisoners in, Ian?
00:30:53.000 Chain-link fences.
00:30:55.000 But like three layers of them and guard posts where guys have guns.
00:30:58.000 If the guys with the guns are no longer there, now it's just a chain link fence.
00:31:02.000 Now they go in and they grab bolt cutters and they just go snip, snip, snip, and now there's no fence anymore.
00:31:06.000 They probably wouldn't want to destroy the fences though.
00:31:08.000 Family members would likely just get them out or gain access to the building. 1.00
00:31:12.000 Some guard is going to leave behind a bunch of shit and flee when shit hits the fan. 1.00
00:31:15.000 Someone will walk in, open all the doors, and the prison becomes a fortress. 0.99
00:31:19.000 I don't, I haven't spent a lot of time in jails, but, or prisons really, one in particular that I visited, and that was, if they're out in the yard, it's only just a fence, but if they're in the cells, it's like maglock doors into a, into an area that's like a common area, into their maglock cells, so like if they're in there, there's no coming out, unless someone has keys.
00:31:39.000 And so what happens is, of the thousand plus people in this particular jail, Who all have on average five immediate family members.
00:31:47.000 You have 5,000 people who are saying, I want my son, my brother, my dad out of prison.
00:31:52.000 They're not just going to be like, my dad's in that jail.
00:31:54.000 I guess he's dead.
00:31:56.000 They're going to be like, I'm going to run a bulldozer through that wall and get my dad out.
00:32:00.000 Prison breaks would be something.
00:32:01.000 I wouldn't even call it a prison break.
00:32:03.000 The system collapses.
00:32:04.000 And then the dude walks up and just opens the door.
00:32:08.000 Is it that easy?
00:32:09.000 Of course it's that easy.
00:32:11.000 I don't know how one's stopping you.
00:32:12.000 Yeah, but is it like you need two keys?
00:32:15.000 Prison break when there's no prison system anymore. I don't know how one stopping you. Yeah, but is it like you need to
00:32:19.000 do it?
00:32:20.000 Do you know the guards just press the button you probably need a key card
00:32:23.000 You might need a physical key, but if there's no one guarding it, bro, you can kick a door open
00:32:27.000 You can kick a window open. So it's like Prisons are gonna be a bit more secure
00:32:32.000 But somebody who wants their dad out of jail is going to accomplish that in 45 minutes
00:32:39.000 I feel like- With no resistance.
00:32:41.000 It's more likely that marauders are gonna come upon a prison where everyone's dead because they starved, and then they're gonna take it over.
00:32:47.000 You think it'd be the other way around?
00:32:50.000 Ian, you think, how many people do you think are in Rikers?
00:32:55.000 I have no idea.
00:32:56.000 Let's just say, no, no, the West Virginia Correctional Facility down the road.
00:33:00.000 Let's say there's 1,000 men in there.
00:33:02.000 It's a male correctional facility.
00:33:03.000 You think they have no families and their families will leave them to die?
00:33:06.000 You think their families don't know they're in there?
00:33:08.000 Oh no, they all know.
00:33:09.000 I'm sure they all know.
00:33:10.000 And so Rick's dad is going to be like, my son's in jail.
00:33:14.000 Guess he's dead now. 0.99
00:33:16.000 Or do you think he's going to be like, I will fucking ram my car at 100 miles an hour to get my son out of that building. 0.99
00:33:20.000 Do you think a son is going to be like, my dad went to jail. 0.97
00:33:24.000 He's on a three month stint in the correctional facility because he got caught pumping gas and didn't pay for it.
00:33:30.000 Guess he's dead now!
00:33:31.000 They're gonna be like, I'm gonna steal the keys to that bulldozer that are probably sitting in it already because some of the construction guys leave it there, and I am going to crush the wall of that building and get my dad out.
00:33:41.000 It doesn't even take that.
00:33:41.000 I mean, it takes 50 guards to, let's say, run that facility.
00:33:45.000 Well, and this collapse is going on, there aren't 50 guards, there's 30, there's 10.
00:33:50.000 By the time they're down to 10, the prisoners will be out.
00:33:53.000 It's not just that.
00:33:53.000 There's going to be one guard in the building and he's probably going to go, guys, everything's collapsed.
00:33:58.000 Here are the keys.
00:33:59.000 Yeah, the guard has no reason to stay there.
00:34:01.000 Think about it.
00:34:01.000 Like I said earlier, it's going to be a situation as soon as cops stop going to work, as soon as EMS stops going to work, as soon as fire departments stop going to work.
00:34:09.000 You think that your security guards at a prison are going to work?
00:34:15.000 They ain't going to work.
00:34:16.000 They're staying home to protect their families. 0.91
00:34:18.000 It's all about, like, the collapse of society happens, like, it sounds stupid to say it like this, but the collapse of society happens when society collapses.
00:34:28.000 Like, so, like, when society collapses, that means things don't happen like they normally do.
00:34:33.000 People stop going to work.
00:34:35.000 That means that all the people that were keeping the things together stop being there to keep the things together.
00:34:41.000 So things start falling apart.
00:34:43.000 Not just that. 1.00
00:34:44.000 Prison guards smuggle shit in for prisoners. 1.00
00:34:47.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:34:48.000 So that means you're gonna have John the prisoner, who's somewhat friends with a handful of the guys in the jail, he's gonna show up and be like, hey, the warden's gone. 0.98
00:34:56.000 Like, I don't know what the fuck's going on. 0.96
00:34:57.000 I'm opening the door. 0.99
00:34:58.000 Yeah. 0.97
00:34:59.000 I need to be like, guys, let's get the fuck out of here. 0.88
00:35:00.000 Yeah, because they know them. 0.88
00:35:01.000 They're like friends.
00:35:02.000 They're people.
00:35:02.000 They realize that.
00:35:03.000 Yeah, it's like, as close as friends as they can probably be. 0.99
00:35:06.000 But when you, like I watched a video of a guy who's like talking about all the shit he has and how the guards don't care. 0.92
00:35:11.000 He's like, I'm not supposed to have a cook, a frying pan in here, but I do, I have a hot plate. 0.99
00:35:15.000 The guards don't really care.
00:35:16.000 And he's got video games, he's got a Nintendo Switch, and he's like playing, he's doing that stuff.
00:35:19.000 He's like, you're not supposed to have any of this stuff, guards are chill.
00:35:22.000 The guards aren't gonna be like, I will leave all of them to die. 0.98
00:35:25.000 Like, I'd imagine most prison guards, at least one, is gonna throw the keys to a guy and be like, get everybody out of here, I'm fucking gone.
00:35:31.000 Yeah, I think we lead the world in, you know, prisoners per capita of the United States, but most, you know, the vast majority are not hardened criminals or even horrible people.
00:35:40.000 They're people who use drugs or got caught with something and, you know, and for short term, they're not really wretched people.
00:35:47.000 So they're not going to kill them.
00:35:49.000 Not to mention, you're talking specifically about maximum security.
00:35:53.000 Yeah, I was.
00:35:54.000 Minimum security prisons for financial crimes, the doors will just pop open.
00:35:57.000 Yeah.
00:35:58.000 It's not monolithic.
00:35:59.000 There will be situations where people get stuck in prison cells.
00:36:02.000 It happened in Katrina.
00:36:04.000 In Katrina, when the storm hit, everyone fled.
00:36:06.000 So that wasn't an issue of leave them to die.
00:36:09.000 It was, I'm not going to risk my life for prisoners. 0.99
00:36:12.000 And then people were like, holy shit, there's people trapped in the flood. 0.98
00:36:15.000 Like, we got to get them out of there. 0.96
00:36:18.000 Anyway, though, this was, I don't know, depressing.
00:36:22.000 Thanks for hanging out with this special depressing members only show.
00:36:25.000 I don't know, when banks start collapsing, your mind goes to dark places. 0.99
00:36:28.000 Drew Miller's the guy you want to be with when shit hits the fan. 0.98
00:36:31.000 But I think we're good, so Drew, thanks for hanging out, it's been a blast. 0.95
00:36:34.000 Are you wrapping up real fast?
00:36:35.000 We're wrapping up, wrapping up.
00:36:36.000 What do you got?
00:36:37.000 You guys are always accusing me of being paranoid and not being optimistic, but I believe in wishes and good things, so I brought you this poster.
00:36:45.000 It says, when you wish upon a falling star, your dreams come true.
00:36:48.000 And then it says, unless it's really a meteor hurling toward the earth, which will destroy all life, then you're pretty much hosed no matter what you wish for, unless it's death by meteorite.
00:36:57.000 Just lift it up a tiny more, yeah, it's alright.
00:37:00.000 That should go on the wall. 0.67
00:37:01.000 We should put it downstairs.
00:37:02.000 That should definitely go on the wall.
00:37:03.000 Unless it's death by meteorite.
00:37:06.000 That's what I was hoping for.
00:37:07.000 All right, man, thanks for hanging out.
00:37:09.000 Thanks for having me.
00:37:09.000 And for everybody who's a member.
00:37:11.000 The mobile app is done.
00:37:13.000 The issue is now getting it approved.
00:37:15.000 The first one is iOS and they have to manually approve it. 0.99
00:37:19.000 So this is the problem with all companies trying to do apps is like they might be like, go fuck yourself. 0.99
00:37:24.000 So we'll see. 0.96
00:37:26.000 And then the Discord is being completed literally right now, and I think it should be done soon.
00:37:32.000 I know it's funny I say that, but I guess the issue is if unless I'm doing it personally, it takes 27 years to get anything done.
00:37:37.000 So all I can do is just every day whinge and be like, I thought I told you guys to do this.
00:37:42.000 Why isn't it getting done?
00:37:43.000 What am I paying for?
00:37:44.000 But hopefully it'll get done, because you guys are the ones paying for it.
00:37:47.000 So we'll make it happen for you.
00:37:49.000 Thanks for hanging out.