Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - January 29, 2023


Sunday Uncensored: Joe Kent Members Only Podcast


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On this week's episode of Sunday Uncensored, we have a special guest on the show to talk about the latest scandal surrounding Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-GA) and his affair with a male staffer. We also have a new segment called "The White Nationalist" where we get to hear from the man in charge of the white nationalist wing of Antifa, Joe Kent.

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00:00:00.000 Welcome to our special weekend show, Sunday Uncensored.
00:00:04.000 Every week we produce four uncensored episodes of the TimCast IRL podcast exclusively at TimCast.com, and we're going to bring you the most important for our weekend show.
00:00:15.000 If you want to check out more segments just like this, become a member at TimCast.com.
00:00:20.000 Now, enjoy the show.
00:00:33.000 What we know. 1.00
00:00:34.000 Holy fucking shit. 1.00
00:00:37.000 Let me swear right when we start. 1.00
00:00:39.000 Right off the bat. 0.99
00:00:39.000 The Blue Anon conspiracy theories are the greatest fucking thing ever. 0.99
00:00:44.000 It is crackhead soap opera drama. 1.00
00:00:48.000 It is nourishing.
00:00:53.000 If a headline asks a question, the answer is no.
00:01:00.000 Did Matt Gaetz have an affair with a male staffer?
00:01:02.000 No.
00:01:03.000 So here's the story. 0.97
00:01:05.000 Rebecca Jones, this crazy lady, apparently she's like a liar, She said that she observed... Oh, that's the girl from Florida, right? 0.98
00:01:12.000 That's right, that's right. 0.99
00:01:13.000 She ran against him.
00:01:14.000 That's his political opponent.
00:01:15.000 Right.
00:01:16.000 She's claiming she observed them in a moment of intimacy they thought was private.
00:01:20.000 Yo.
00:01:21.000 It's so weird to me that she thought a political attack would be Matt Gaetz's gay or bi.
00:01:27.000 It's like, first of all, literally don't care.
00:01:29.000 These people clearly do not know who we are and what we really care about.
00:01:33.000 Matt Gaetz stood up to the establishment and told an F off on numerous occasions.
00:01:38.000 Like, I'm not going to get mad that he's secretly hooking up with some dude that has nothing to do with anything. 0.99
00:01:41.000 I don't give a shit. 0.99
00:01:42.000 I'd be more mad that he was cheating on his wife. 0.99
00:01:43.000 Yeah, I was going to say, the only person who would be mad is Ginger. 1.00
00:01:45.000 I feel like that's when you talk about it. 1.00
00:01:48.000 Yeah, but she just made this shit up and the media picks up the story and they run with it because how stupid these people are. 1.00
00:01:55.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:01:55.000 I don't know. 1.00
00:01:56.000 I don't know what you're talking about.
00:01:57.000 I think this is great, important journalism.
00:01:59.000 I think we need more of this. 0.91
00:02:01.000 No, it's obviously ridiculous. 0.92
00:02:02.000 I mean, the last time the media came after Matt Gaetz, I mean, two years ago, they were saying all kinds of horrible things about him, big sex scandal. 0.88
00:02:09.000 Of course, they never materialized any evidence whatsoever.
00:02:11.000 Then we come to find out that people from, you know, the FBI and the people that tried to extort Matt Yates and his family, they concocted the entire thing just to try and bring down Matt.
00:02:22.000 Have you experienced... I don't think anyone accused you of having a gay affair or anything like that, but have you experienced... Not yet.
00:02:28.000 The cycle's young.
00:02:29.000 Cycle's young!
00:02:30.000 No, but like outright overt lies.
00:02:33.000 Oh, certainly.
00:02:33.000 Yeah.
00:02:33.000 Yeah.
00:02:34.000 We had all the typical stuff where they're like, this guy's a white supremacist. 0.81
00:02:37.000 He's a neo-Nazi.
00:02:38.000 And they made it very obvious, too, because when they wrote this expose about how I had ties to the radical right, their source document, I'm not kidding, was from Rose City, Antifa.
00:02:47.000 AP said, according to Rosa De Antifa, who tracks white nationalists, Joe Kent is a white
00:02:53.000 nationalist. And then the crazy, the chain reaction happens from there because then like
00:02:56.000 the New York Times, Polico, they all say, well, it's AP, it's the Associated Press.
00:03:02.000 How do you deal with that? I mean, look, I can understand what we do.
00:03:06.000 We kind of ignore it.
00:03:07.000 Yeah.
00:03:07.000 But you're running for office.
00:03:09.000 Yeah.
00:03:10.000 Can you ignore it?
00:03:10.000 I mean, well, unfortunately, you can't.
00:03:12.000 I mean, a lot of folks that are in the I think that, you know, the right wing space, they're so used to it that they're immune to it.
00:03:16.000 But those those voters that you're trying to win over that swing elections, They want to hear your side of the story.
00:03:22.000 Now, the AP did make it easy for people who are willing to do the research.
00:03:24.000 I'm like, because everybody knows what Antifa is, where I live.
00:03:27.000 So I could say, hey, this is where this came from.
00:03:30.000 But they do have to be willing to do a little bit of work or come hear me out.
00:03:33.000 So unfortunately, you do spend a lot of time on a campaign having to address this nonsense.
00:03:37.000 So a lot of it is just a diversion tactic to kind of stall you and weigh you down a little bit.
00:03:41.000 You know what I would do if I was you?
00:03:42.000 As soon as they ran the story, I would immediately announce we're holding an end white supremacy rally.
00:03:47.000 Whoa, what's this story?
00:03:50.000 Oh, that's weird.
00:03:50.000 We're doing an end white nationalism story.
00:03:52.000 That's so strange.
00:03:53.000 Why are they saying that we support that?
00:03:55.000 We're literally working against that.
00:03:56.000 It's interesting.
00:03:57.000 I actually had some of the Fuentes kids come out to my events to heckle me. 1.00
00:04:03.000 Because I at one point said, these guys are idiots like that, and they're disgusting, and nobody should have anything to do with them. 1.00
00:04:08.000 So he sent some of his trolls to some of my town halls to yell and make some noise. 1.00
00:04:13.000 The Gripers? 0.88
00:04:13.000 The Gripers, yeah. 0.88
00:04:15.000 So at a time when they're like, Joe Kent's a neo-Nazi, I'm like, actually, the neo-Nazi kids are spending money and effort and resources against me.
00:04:21.000 So the hatred of me formed this alliance between Rose City Antifa and the Gripers. 1.00
00:04:27.000 That's crazy.
00:04:28.000 I was going to say, the neo-Nazis are like, he is not getting out of here!
00:04:32.000 I feel like, you know, the reason I wanted to talk about this Matt Gaetz thing is because, come on, man. 1.00
00:04:37.000 It's such the most stupid bullshit ever, but it seems like we have Long ago, got into the bottom of the barrel of political bullshit. 1.00
00:04:47.000 And now, they're scraping it so hard, they're pulling up wood chips. 1.00
00:04:51.000 We're about to hit dirt.
00:04:52.000 I think your average person that was politically aware, at least, during Donald Trump's presidency and since, I feel like they kind of understand that the far left, the activist left, Calls literally everybody white supremacists, literally everybody Nazis, I think.
00:05:12.000 I'm hoping that your average person has kind of picked up on that undisputable fact, but maybe it's just me being an optimist.
00:05:21.000 I'm just wondering where we go. 1.00
00:05:23.000 Is it going to get to the point where people just start saying shit like, oh, this candidate fucked the pig, and then people just go like, shut the fuck up, dude. 1.00
00:05:31.000 I hope so. 1.00
00:05:32.000 Hopefully.
00:05:34.000 That's the hope, I think.
00:05:35.000 That's the best outcome, is people just get tired Oh, that actually happened. 1.00
00:05:39.000 Holy shit. 1.00
00:05:39.000 Oh no. 1.00
00:05:39.000 Wow. 1.00
00:05:39.000 and then they just start disregarding it. 1.00
00:05:41.000 But I don't know that that, I don't know that that means that they're gonna go
00:05:44.000 and find reliable information. 0.98
00:05:46.000 Oh, that actually happened, holy shit. 0.99
00:05:47.000 Oh no. 1.00
00:05:48.000 Wow. 1.00
00:05:50.000 British prime minister reveals he put his penis in a dead pig's mouth. 1.00
00:05:53.000 What? 1.00
00:05:54.000 Well, okay, David Cameron dismissed the claims about his pig fucking days as a university student. 1.00
00:05:59.000 Holy shit. 1.00
00:06:00.000 This was seven years ago. 0.99
00:06:02.000 Eight almost.
00:06:02.000 What?
00:06:03.000 Oh my goodness.
00:06:04.000 My people are so strange.
00:06:05.000 The Brits.
00:06:07.000 I mean, there's David Cameron too.
00:06:08.000 He's a pretty big deal.
00:06:08.000 Yeah, he is.
00:06:09.000 I thought this was a TV show.
00:06:10.000 That's why I was making a show.
00:06:11.000 That was like a Black Mirror episode, right?
00:06:13.000 Where you were like, I don't know. 0.94
00:06:14.000 They kidnapped the princess and then they said, you have to bang a pig, otherwise they're going to kill her or something. 0.99
00:06:19.000 Inspired by true events. 0.99
00:06:20.000 No, I'm just kidding. 1.00
00:06:21.000 That line definitely says this is what the pig fucker looks like. 1.00
00:06:25.000 Wait, what? 1.00
00:06:26.000 Right above the pig screen. 1.00
00:06:27.000 In case you didn't know, here's what the pig fucker looks like. 1.00
00:06:30.000 I wonder if they have a favorable opinion of David Cameron. 0.99
00:06:35.000 Tell us what you really think.
00:06:37.000 I'm curious.
00:06:38.000 That's so crazy.
00:06:40.000 It's funny how they say this is basically the pilot episode of Black Mirror.
00:06:43.000 Yeah, it was, wasn't it?
00:06:44.000 Yeah, I believe so.
00:06:45.000 I thought about it and I was like, that was the thing, wasn't it?
00:06:48.000 Oh yeah, Black Mirror. 1.00
00:06:49.000 That must have been... Wow, what the fuck? 1.00
00:06:52.000 This is so gross. 1.00
00:06:53.000 Yeah.
00:06:55.000 I just kind of feel like we're done.
00:06:56.000 I was wrong to even bring up the Medicaid story.
00:06:58.000 It's like we're already well past that.
00:06:59.000 To be fair, this was seven years ago.
00:07:01.000 We had to pick something current to lead off.
00:07:03.000 You know what the real issue is, though, is that young people are inexperienced and exploited by Democrats.
00:07:08.000 Yeah.
00:07:08.000 So when Vosh was on the show, I like to bring this point up.
00:07:11.000 I said, look man, how could you vote for Joe Biden?
00:07:13.000 We know what he did as VP.
00:07:15.000 We know about the corruption.
00:07:16.000 And he goes, I was in high school.
00:07:17.000 I don't know anything about that. 0.99
00:07:18.000 And I'm like, holy shit. 0.99
00:07:20.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:07:20.000 It's like, so you're, I totally get it now. 0.99
00:07:23.000 Yeah.
00:07:23.000 And they want to lower the voting age too.
00:07:25.000 Explains everything.
00:07:26.000 Absolutely. 1.00
00:07:27.000 Democrats rely on stupid people. 1.00
00:07:30.000 So when they come on and say Matt Gaetz is banging some dude, I go, shut the fuck up. 1.00
00:07:34.000 But then these people are like, whoa. 0.98
00:07:37.000 The real story is probably a little more complex and the actual solutions for the problems probably are not the feel-good solutions that people are hoping for.
00:07:47.000 So it's easy to get people that are politically inexperienced to vote for you if you tell them, no, check it out.
00:07:53.000 I got it.
00:07:53.000 Just give me give me your vote and I'll get you all the good.
00:07:55.000 Well, so this is the alternate scenario. 1.00
00:07:58.000 Then the question for you is how do you get people who are smart to believe you and people who are stupid to trust you? 1.00
00:08:04.000 Yeah. 0.99
00:08:05.000 I mean, that's the, that's the question.
00:08:06.000 I mean, I feel like the smart people are actually fairly easy to get, like, cause they'll put in the work, they'll do the research, they'll come ask you hard questions.
00:08:13.000 And, you know, I feel like most of those folks are, are gettable.
00:08:16.000 And then there's the ideologues on the other side who are just never going to vote for a Republican.
00:08:20.000 Like they're not gettable, but there's all, I think there's a lot of people out there who are legitimately, You know, they've got too much going on in their lives.
00:08:25.000 Maybe politics doesn't interest them.
00:08:26.000 And that's where stuff like this, this saturation bombing of negativity that especially the left specializes in, it does sway them.
00:08:34.000 Because maybe they don't believe.
00:08:35.000 If they read the Matt Gaetz headline, they'd be like, no, that probably didn't happen.
00:08:38.000 But if they keep hearing negative things about Joe Kent, about Matt Gaetz, I mean, that does play a role.
00:08:43.000 And that's why it's challenging.
00:08:45.000 That's why we spend so much time fundraising, because that's how we fight back.
00:08:48.000 Man, that's crazy.
00:08:49.000 And the Democrats have a massive narrative machine in the corporate press, but they also have organizational power that Republicans just don't have.
00:08:57.000 I don't know.
00:08:57.000 Why is that?
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00:10:00.000 You know, I think a lot of it is Republicans for a really long time were playing a completely different game than Democrats.
00:10:04.000 doesn't emerge for a few years.
00:10:07.000 Like why are the Republicans so consistently behind organizationally and technologically?
00:10:10.000 You know, I think a lot of it is Republicans for a really long time were playing a completely different game than
00:10:16.000 Democrats. We said, hey, we're going to have the best candidates. We're going to have the best messages.
00:10:19.000 We're going to get out there and we're going to earn people's votes, gosh darn it.
00:10:22.000 And you know, that works with a certain percentage of people.
00:10:24.000 And the Democrats were like, cool story, bro.
00:10:26.000 What we're going to do is we're going to go put ballots in people's hands.
00:10:30.000 And then we're going to control how those ballots are adjudicated.
00:10:33.000 And so their ground game is spectacular. 1.00
00:10:36.000 It's fucking evil. 1.00
00:10:37.000 We're going to offer them the world as well. 0.99
00:10:39.000 The Republicans are going, we need to convince as many people as possible to vote for our guy, we need good policy, and the Democrats are like, we need to alter the laws to make sure we can fill out as many ballots as possible. 0.88
00:10:50.000 Fuck actually convincing people, just get the numbers. 0.96
00:10:55.000 And when they have to convince people, it's only emotional, right? 0.99
00:10:58.000 I feel like Republicans spend a lot of time, maybe honorably, being like, here is why my policy makes sense, and here, whatever, and they're like, Trump is going to ruin our country.
00:11:09.000 Trump wants to take away your women's rights, and this, that, and the other. 1.00
00:11:12.000 It's just fear-mongering.
00:11:13.000 But it wasn't even that with Trump. 1.00
00:11:15.000 It was just like, isn't Trump nasty and gross and ugly? 1.00
00:11:18.000 Like, yeah, he is nasty, gross, and ugly. 1.00
00:11:20.000 Fuck Trump. 1.00
00:11:20.000 Would you believe he said this? 1.00
00:11:22.000 Have you seen that he's been divorced a bunch?
00:11:23.000 It doesn't make any sense.
00:11:26.000 But it wasn't actual.
00:11:27.000 What the Democrats did with Trump was all they were really saying was be like me, be like me over and over again.
00:11:33.000 Because the points they bring up, no one actually cared about.
00:11:36.000 Like, did you know that Trump had five bankruptcies? 0.99
00:11:40.000 Like, no one gives a shit about his bankruptcies. 0.98
00:11:42.000 Trump had over 500 companies and five went into bankruptcy. 0.98
00:11:45.000 And then the Democrats came out and said, look at all these bankruptcies.
00:11:47.000 And then all these activists were like, Trump, and they're posting memes.
00:11:50.000 I'm like, none of them actually know or care about whether or not Trump's business succeeds or fails.
00:11:55.000 They're just virtue signaling to each other.
00:11:56.000 It's safe to ignore when communists talk about bankruptcy.
00:12:01.000 It's very safe to ignore them.
00:12:02.000 Fair point.
00:12:03.000 But then when they actually go through Trump's financials, it's like, this is the only guy that's ever been a president that lost money.
00:12:10.000 I suppose maybe if you go back in time, you know, a couple hundred years, you might find some of the early presidents who were very, very poor.
00:12:16.000 Not a modern president though.
00:12:17.000 We have a Trump, Trump lost millions of dollars during his presidential term, his tax returns show.
00:12:21.000 Yeah.
00:12:22.000 And then they're all like, we got his tax returns and they release them.
00:12:24.000 And it's like, Oh, Trump lost a lot of money.
00:12:26.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:12:27.000 $20 million a year or some shit. 0.94
00:12:29.000 It's funny how that story kind of died. 0.93
00:12:30.000 As soon as that information came out, the story just dropped off.
00:12:32.000 Well, they tried running it, but everyone kind of realized, like, you realize it makes Trump look good, right?
00:12:37.000 Exactly. 1.00
00:12:37.000 He sacrificed for this country and destroyed his fucking life. 1.00
00:12:41.000 I don't know where we go if this is the case, though. 1.00
00:12:42.000 If, like, the media is willing to entertain this absolute psychotic garbage, I suppose the issue is it gets clicks, right? 0.99
00:12:51.000 Newsweek's probably thinking, like, yo, you know, we can get some people to click on a story if we write this bullshit. 0.99
00:12:56.000 They're like, it works for TMZ. 0.99
00:12:57.000 We can do it too.
00:12:58.000 There's just totally unsubstantial to claim this is not Gates' first affair, nor is it his first with a man.
00:13:04.000 There's nothing to back it up.
00:13:06.000 Says the person who opposed him politically.
00:13:09.000 Just his political opponent just saying it in a tweet.
00:13:11.000 It's like, okay, okay.
00:13:13.000 Didn't she serve time in jail too? 0.99
00:13:15.000 I think she's about to go to jail. 1.00
00:13:17.000 Because she just made up a bunch of fake bullshit. 1.00
00:13:19.000 And then Democrats are like, we're the party of fake bullshit, so we'll follow this. 1.00
00:13:23.000 Which is exactly why I love George Santos. 0.99
00:13:26.000 Oh man, what's up with that guy?
00:13:28.000 What's his deal?
00:13:28.000 So last night, a reporter by the name of Natalie Johnson, she met up with him at some place and got a selfie with him.
00:13:45.000 And it's the best selfie that I've seen in ages.
00:13:47.000 Where is it?
00:13:47.000 I'm trying to find it.
00:13:48.000 I lost it here. 0.99
00:13:51.000 She was out and people were giving her crap. 0.99
00:13:53.000 And I'm like, that's the best idea. 0.98
00:13:54.000 There's a little, little video of it and everything.
00:13:56.000 She's, uh, he's just out partying and being awesome.
00:13:59.000 And I love it.
00:14:00.000 I love the guy.
00:14:02.000 I know there are people all upset with him.
00:14:04.000 I think it's hilarious.
00:14:05.000 He conned his way into Congress.
00:14:07.000 Did he really though? 0.99
00:14:07.000 Because I hear the media accusing him of lying, but like, I don't fucking trust the media. 0.99
00:14:11.000 Not that I trust Santos either. 0.93
00:14:13.000 I don't know.
00:14:14.000 I want him to have lied his way in.
00:14:16.000 The stories are hilarious.
00:14:17.000 It's hilarious.
00:14:19.000 Absolutely.
00:14:20.000 Is he really a drag queen? 1.00
00:14:21.000 Allegedly.
00:14:23.000 Wouldn't they like that though?
00:14:24.000 Wouldn't that be good?
00:14:25.000 She took a picture while they were playing I Will Survive intentionally as his karaoke song.
00:14:32.000 There's a photo that people claim is Santos as a drag queen. 0.85
00:14:35.000 Yeah.
00:14:35.000 And I've seen even like centrists posting it.
00:14:37.000 And I'm just like, I can't tell that's him.
00:14:39.000 Yeah.
00:14:40.000 Like drag queens covered in makeup and a costume. 1.00
00:14:42.000 It could be any anybody.
00:14:43.000 Well, and I feel like all of this is just bigger because he's become sort of a political talking point.
00:14:46.000 Like Hakeem Jeffries, when he wrote to McCarthy and was like, you need to get Swallow and Schiff on the committee and it's important.
00:14:55.000 He was like, how could you give George Santos committees and not these guys?
00:14:59.000 Like, it's just a quick shorthand way of saying like, you favor your own people and we don't like them.
00:15:06.000 It's sort of pointless.
00:15:07.000 I have a question.
00:15:09.000 Like cuz I don't know it like, you know, I called my Twitter handle is Tim cast made it in 2009 and Because it was just like broadcast Tim cast Is that a common thing people do cuz like I'm seeing tons of people do that and I'm wondering if they're just copying off Me or copying off of you.
00:15:24.000 It is like Krazen cast.
00:15:26.000 It's like the real everybody does like the real Joe now because Donald Trump did the real I think you did get the casting going Yeah.
00:15:34.000 I didn't think it was anything.
00:15:36.000 When I took the name, I was like, Broadcast.
00:15:38.000 Timcast.
00:15:39.000 Well, Seamus started it with the Shimcast, right? 1.00
00:15:41.000 He's been ripping off your brand for a while.
00:15:43.000 I just saw this when I was looking at Rebecca Jones, Krazencast.
00:15:47.000 And I was like, is that derivative?
00:15:49.000 Yes.
00:15:49.000 Yes.
00:15:50.000 Are they doing that because it's like... Bring them back on and make them answer for this.
00:15:54.000 You know, we had the Krasensteins on and the thing about them was that they just didn't know anything.
00:15:58.000 No.
00:15:59.000 I was surprised.
00:16:00.000 They were rarely even dark.
00:16:02.000 Yeah.
00:16:02.000 They had no information.
00:16:03.000 They're like, oh, we don't know anything about that.
00:16:04.000 So you're familiar with the Krasenstein brothers?
00:16:06.000 Yeah.
00:16:06.000 We had them on and when I started going off about Ukraine, the Qatar Turkey pipeline, Gazprom, which I do often, they're just like, We have no idea what you're talking about.
00:16:14.000 Really?
00:16:14.000 Yeah.
00:16:14.000 And so I'm like, so you don't know the reason why we're at war in Ukraine?
00:16:17.000 And they're like, well, because Russia invaded.
00:16:19.000 I'm like, well, why did Russia invade?
00:16:21.000 Because Putin's bad.
00:16:22.000 Because Putin's bad. 0.75
00:16:23.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:16:23.000 Because Putin's an evil guy. 1.00
00:16:25.000 And it's like, it's because they want a land bridge to Crimea. 0.93
00:16:28.000 It's because the U.S.
00:16:29.000 wants to offset the gas problem.
00:16:30.000 Gas monopoly.
00:16:31.000 That's why the Brits probably blew up Nord Stream 2.
00:16:33.000 We assume it may be Britain.
00:16:34.000 We don't know for sure. 0.99
00:16:35.000 Certainly wasn't Russia blowing up their own fucking pipeline. 0.99
00:16:37.000 That makes no sense. 0.99
00:16:38.000 No, not at all.
00:16:39.000 But the media tried to sell that story so intensely, like, Putin is so evil, he'd blow up his own gas pipeline. 1.00
00:16:49.000 Sometimes I'm just like, I wish I could be evil, because holy fuck would it be easy. 0.99
00:16:54.000 You don't even have to know anything, apparently. 0.99
00:16:56.000 But knowing everything, it would be so much easier.
00:17:00.000 Because then I could actually be like, ain't nobody's gonna be able to argue with me because the sophistry is way up, you know, above the level, man.
00:17:07.000 Don't you think there are people that actually think that?
00:17:09.000 That are doing that right now?
00:17:10.000 That have realized that and are doing it?
00:17:12.000 The Young Turks, maybe?
00:17:12.000 That's, yeah.
00:17:14.000 Good point.
00:17:15.000 There's no way, like, they've taken so many videos of mine and then lied about what I was actually saying.
00:17:22.000 True.
00:17:23.000 You can't, you can't accidentally do that.
00:17:25.000 Yeah, totally.
00:17:26.000 Not to mention when they made the video where they said Tim Pool's ugly.
00:17:28.000 And it's like, wait, what?
00:17:29.000 It's the equivalent of this article over here from Newsweek.
00:17:34.000 We talked on TimCastIRL about how conservatives tend to be more attractive.
00:17:37.000 There's like five prominent studies in the past ten years that say conservatives are more attractive.
00:17:42.000 And the segment we were doing was talking about privilege.
00:17:44.000 I said a person who's attractive goes through life and has it easier.
00:17:47.000 They assume then, if life is this easy, anybody can do what I did.
00:17:52.000 And people who are ugly have it harder and think, life is really difficult, we have to band together and fight oppression.
00:17:57.000 Thus, you'll get this natural bias emerging. 1.00
00:18:00.000 They cut all that out, took a clip of me just being like, conservatives are naturally more attractive, and then they called me ugly, and started shit-talking my appearance, and I'm like, okay, these people are fucking evil, man. 0.99
00:18:11.000 I'm ugly and I'm not tall, and I'm still a rock star. 0.99
00:18:17.000 I mean, hard work, perseverance, talent, the willingness.
00:18:22.000 Hard work.
00:18:24.000 The number one factor in success.
00:18:26.000 Hard work.
00:18:27.000 Perseverance.
00:18:28.000 It's not even necessarily hard work, but for the most part, it's the unwillingness to give up.
00:18:34.000 No matter how smart you are, no matter how talented, how attractive, how tall, how short, as long as you don't give up, you become successful.
00:18:41.000 All That Remains was a band for like eight years before the record that put us on the map came out.
00:18:46.000 Eight years.
00:18:47.000 So how did that happen?
00:18:48.000 Break that down.
00:18:49.000 What were you doing for eight years?
00:18:50.000 Working at a gym or something?
00:18:51.000 No, I was working odd jobs or working in the mall and stuff and doing part-time jobs and put out a couple records and just got in the van and destroyed my credit and did everything that bands do.
00:19:02.000 I lived in my mom's basement.
00:19:04.000 We wrote a record that Put us on the map in my mom's basement.
00:19:10.000 And then the next record we wrote in my mom's basement is the one that was the first platinum record that we got.
00:19:16.000 But it was because we never quit.
00:19:18.000 We just kept doing it.
00:19:19.000 There was never a time where I was thinking, I want to make this my job.
00:19:26.000 It's just was I'm in I'm a band guy.
00:19:28.000 You know what I mean?
00:19:29.000 It was it wasn't like I want to do this.
00:19:31.000 It was like it's a life.
00:19:32.000 This is just what I do it to me.
00:19:33.000 It didn't seem like there was like you didn't think about I want to do this.
00:19:37.000 You were like, I just got a camera and I'm bummed out about this stuff and I want to make, you know, make videos about it.
00:19:41.000 It's it's not like There was a big plan for All That Remains to do this and be this successful metal band and stuff.
00:19:49.000 When I started, we weren't playing stuff that was ever going to get played on the radio.
00:19:53.000 No one was thinking, oh, you're in a heavy metal band that maybe you'll have hit singles.
00:19:59.000 That was never even on the table.
00:20:01.000 That didn't even become an option until 2008.
00:20:04.000 We'd already put out four records and stuff.
00:20:06.000 So it really does matter.
00:20:08.000 If you're working on something and You're getting down, believe me.
00:20:12.000 I have been as down as down gets.
00:20:14.000 We did our first tour, came back, and our drummer broke his arm, and our guitar player, we kicked him out, and then our bass player quit.
00:20:21.000 I had to build the whole band, and that all happened within a two-week period.
00:20:25.000 Had to rebuild the whole band.
00:20:27.000 So, don't quit.
00:20:28.000 Just keep working.
00:20:29.000 What else you got to do?
00:20:31.000 Says the guy who's running for Congress again.
00:20:32.000 He's like, I'm back at it, don't worry!
00:20:36.000 Don't overthink it.
00:20:37.000 Just keep going.
00:20:37.000 Well, yeah.
00:20:38.000 So, I mean, what was it like for you?
00:20:40.000 My understanding is that you didn't get enough support from the establishment.
00:20:43.000 Is that a lot?
00:20:44.000 Yeah.
00:20:45.000 So we, I mean, we had a hard-fought primary.
00:20:47.000 I took down a 10-year or 12-year incumbent.
00:20:49.000 She had $10 million they spent against us. 0.95
00:20:51.000 Nobody thought we were going to win.
00:20:52.000 I mean, Matt Gaetz is one of the only sitting members who endorsed me because that would be most of the party wouldn't endorse against an incumbent.
00:20:58.000 But we took her down and we outworked her. 1.00
00:21:00.000 We knocked on 130,000 doors, did 300 in-person town halls.
00:21:01.000 So, but at the end of the 300?
00:21:02.000 Yeah, 300.
00:21:02.000 in person town halls. So but at the end of the 300 Yeah, 300
00:21:06.000 but but yeah, cuz it was two year campaign essentially.
00:21:10.000 So we just hit it hard and that really resonated with people.
00:21:14.000 We were hitting it hard.
00:21:17.000 And so at the end of the primary, we had to spend pretty much our entire war chest.
00:21:21.000 We raised $3 million.
00:21:22.000 No PAC would touch us.
00:21:23.000 So that was all from people giving us, you know, 10, 15 bucks here and there.
00:21:27.000 But we arrived in the general election after a bloody primary with With no money.
00:21:32.000 And the conventional wisdom coming from the RNC, the NRCC, was that, hey, this is a Republican seat.
00:21:37.000 You're already the congressman.
00:21:39.000 You got it.
00:21:39.000 And we were like, no, I don't think so.
00:21:41.000 And then the incumbent I took down, unfortunately, she decided not to endorse me.
00:21:45.000 The party stayed fractured.
00:21:47.000 We have a really late primary.
00:21:48.000 So our primary is in August.
00:21:50.000 The ballots get mailed out in mid-October.
00:21:51.000 We didn't have the resources at the time.
00:21:53.000 And so the Democrats smartly were like, you know what, the Republicans just beat the crap out of each other.
00:21:57.000 Like we can come in here and we can probably pull this off.
00:22:00.000 And so they marshaled all their resources around one candidate.
00:22:03.000 Do you have a primary coming up next year?
00:22:08.000 August 24th.
00:22:09.000 Is the old incumbent coming back to come for you?
00:22:12.000 I don't think that she will, but if she does, she's not going to be able to get the support.
00:22:16.000 She doesn't have a compelling case to make.
00:22:17.000 She got taken down when she was an incumbent on the Appropriations Committee with $10 million and some dude beat her. 1.00
00:22:24.000 You know, and so now it's hard for her to make that case. 0.99
00:22:26.000 So I don't think she'll come back.
00:22:27.000 I mean, we're really trying to keep the Republican Party in the district united, which I think most folks realize that we weren't able to do that.
00:22:34.000 And if we want to flip the seat, we've got to be united.
00:22:36.000 How does the party feel about that?
00:22:37.000 Are they, like, on board with the strategy?
00:22:39.000 Yeah, I mean, I feel like they are.
00:22:41.000 Like, 22 was disappointing.
00:22:42.000 Everybody wanted the big red wave.
00:22:44.000 And so one of the big hard lessons learned was that we need to, especially at the end of the primary, we've got to unify.
00:22:50.000 And if we don't, the Democrats just exploit it.
00:22:51.000 Because you don't see the Democrats have these internal fights.
00:22:54.000 I think it's healthy for us to have them sometimes.
00:22:56.000 I think the process that played out with that Matt Gaetz letter, I think that was very, very helpful.
00:23:00.000 It showed the American people just like, hey, the Republican Party, like, They're actually out there, they're having these hard conversations.
00:23:05.000 But yeah, I think the unity's gonna be key, especially our local parties, our county and our state party.
00:23:10.000 They're 100% behind flipping the seat.
00:23:12.000 Yeah.
00:23:12.000 Your story's making me think of Edward Durr.
00:23:14.000 I just pulled a story.
00:23:15.000 He's a commercial truck driver from New Jersey who like unseated an incumbent and he spent like $150 and it was mostly on Dunkin' Donuts for like people who, he just went door to door and passed out flyers and was like, you should vote for me.
00:23:28.000 And like, I think There is a certain level of boots on the ground work that really is effective.
00:23:34.000 They can hand people a lot of ballots, but if you have already put your name in their mouths, it's different.
00:23:40.000 I haven't met a ton of politicians, but the handful of them that I have met, when you meet them, they if they win, they tend to be very charismatic.
00:23:50.000 Even people that I disagree with, like or whatever.
00:23:52.000 It's like if I've met them or whatever, it's like you're like, all right, I see why people can get behind that
00:23:56.000 person.
00:23:57.000 I met Glenn Beck and I know he's not a politician, but like meeting him for just like a brief second.
00:24:03.000 And he looks you in the eye, the handshake.
00:24:06.000 It's like you're the only person there.
00:24:08.000 And I've heard people talk about Bill Clinton that way.
00:24:10.000 And and there's a few other people like you.
00:24:13.000 If you meet successful politicians, there is something about them That makes them extremely charismatic.
00:24:19.000 And so getting in front of people and pressing the palms and shaking the hands, like that stuff pays the bills, man.
00:24:26.000 I mean, I noticed this, too.
00:24:27.000 If you think about general pop stardom, some people just exude this attractive force.
00:24:33.000 One hundred percent.
00:24:34.000 For whatever reason, for whatever reason, you know, some people like to think about Taylor Swift.
00:24:40.000 Yeah.
00:24:40.000 Like she could she could Chicken balk. Yep
00:24:43.000 And people are gonna buy that album and they're gonna give her whatever she wants cuz they just want to see her for
00:24:48.000 whatever reason Our guitar player Mike Martin is the he is he is the most
00:24:53.000 unassuming kind of dude like bald head shaved head not like Doesn't know not flashy
00:24:59.000 He kind of stays in the back when we're playing on stage.
00:25:02.000 He doesn't do a whole lot of playing to the crowd and stuff.
00:25:05.000 But when people meet him and start talking to him, he's the guy in the band that people remember the most as, like, I want to talk to him.
00:25:12.000 He's the guy that people are like, what's the crew?
00:25:15.000 What's Mike doing?
00:25:16.000 Are we going to get lunch?
00:25:17.000 Get Mike.
00:25:17.000 Those kind of things.
00:25:18.000 And you can't You can't put a finger on it.
00:25:21.000 No.
00:25:21.000 Yeah, it's weird.
00:25:22.000 It's weird because- X-factor.
00:25:23.000 Yeah, they're just some people you're drawn to.
00:25:25.000 Yeah, he's not like a pretty man.
00:25:27.000 He's not an attractive guy or whatever.
00:25:29.000 Like, he's a normal looking dude.
00:25:30.000 Trump- But there's something about him that people just want to
00:25:32.000 talk to him and be around him.
00:25:32.000 Trump has more than any other human ever.
00:25:36.000 For whatever reason.
00:25:37.000 It's not charisma.
00:25:39.000 He has charisma.
00:25:41.000 But it's attractive power.
00:25:43.000 I'm not saying he's attractive.
00:25:44.000 I'm saying he has some kind of gravitational force where even the people who hate him can't stop looking at him being like, I can't stop looking at him. 0.99
00:25:52.000 I fucking hate him, I fucking hate him, but I can't stop looking at him. 0.99
00:25:55.000 I can't stop. 1.00
00:25:55.000 He has main character energy, as the Zoomers say. 1.00
00:25:58.000 I guess that's it.
00:25:59.000 We're in a simulation and Donald Trump is the main character, I guess.
00:26:03.000 Yeah, I think so.
00:26:04.000 People can't stop looking at him.
00:26:06.000 How do you generate that kind of energy, I guess?
00:26:08.000 That's what you need to win an election, you know?
00:26:09.000 I know, yeah, we do.
00:26:10.000 I think getting out and being authentic is the biggest thing, because people want to see the authenticity, like they're kind of sick and tired of the canned talking points and all that.
00:26:18.000 You know, people will say things like, he's not presidential.
00:26:22.000 It's like, Gavin Newsom is not presidential.
00:26:26.000 Why?
00:26:27.000 He kind of comes off plastic and generic, I guess.
00:26:29.000 Yeah, plastic is exactly the word I think of.
00:26:31.000 For sure.
00:26:32.000 But neither was Joe Biden, so they figured out how to fix that.
00:26:35.000 But Joe Biden, this is going to sound really cruel, but he won his seat in the Senate when his family was going through a really big tragedy, right?
00:26:44.000 His wife had been in the car accident, his daughter had died, his son.
00:26:47.000 He got sworn in standing next to his son's hospital bed.
00:26:51.000 Maybe he is plastic in personality, but he was a memorable launch into American politics, and in a way that is really sort of, I mean, heartbreaking and tragic, right?
00:27:00.000 I can't imagine what that's like.
00:27:02.000 And I think in some ways that had altered the trajectory of his political career.
00:27:06.000 And then you hear the stuff about the trains, like, I don't get why he's so obsessed with trains.
00:27:10.000 He rode the train back and forth to Delaware.
00:27:13.000 But then you hear the other part, which is like, to be with my kids every night from Washington.
00:27:17.000 I would hope it's authentic.
00:27:20.000 I don't know at this point.
00:27:21.000 But he made himself someone you remember with this backstory that he built in tandem with his political career.
00:27:29.000 True.
00:27:30.000 A lot of plagiarism on Joe Biden's part, you know.
00:27:32.000 A lot of his life wasn't real.
00:27:35.000 You know, when you take the best parts of other people's lives and you tell other people that's your life, they tend to like you.
00:27:39.000 That's the Instagram method, right?
00:27:41.000 I remember when Friendster came out and, you know, Myspace and all that.
00:27:44.000 Do you remember those?
00:27:45.000 Myspace, yeah, definitely.
00:27:46.000 And I would see people post these photos that made their lives look so fucking awesome.
00:27:52.000 And this was early on and people would be like, You know, I learned this really quickly.
00:27:56.000 It's like, their life is nothing like that.
00:27:59.000 That was one photo for one second of their day where in the morning they got up and sat on their couch, drinking a coffee in their boxers, watching TV.
00:28:07.000 And then like, they went out to the movies and took one photo with their friends and it looks like they're on this great adventure outside and it's like, then they said peace out and went back to sitting on their couch in their boxers.
00:28:15.000 Yeah, I like, there was this influencer I followed, not followed, but she had a blog and she faked going to Disneyland for her birthday. 1.00
00:28:22.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:28:24.000 Photoshop photos like she was home.
00:28:25.000 She even to her family.
00:28:26.000 She was like, yep I'm having this super cool adventure so glamorous and like it's all a Manipulation and then she wrote about it and was like I I didn't go anywhere Like I made it up because like your life is a lot more.
00:28:38.000 I'll tell you what's creepy.
00:28:39.000 Is that Actually, I just pulled up Instagram.
00:28:43.000 I don't want to click this because not it's gonna keep showing me this garbage What time would you think about that photo?
00:28:50.000 I don't know, that girl seems uncomfortable.
00:28:53.000 Why?
00:28:53.000 Can you see it?
00:28:55.000 Oh, is that an AI?
00:28:57.000 Is it real?
00:28:58.000 It's AI?
00:28:59.000 It looks like it's AI.
00:29:00.000 I follow a couple AI people that are completely fake.
00:29:03.000 Pop Culture Crisis, our pop culture show, talked about this, where there are several major influencers that are completely developed by marketing companies, and they're fake people.
00:29:12.000 Terrifying.
00:29:13.000 And people follow them.
00:29:14.000 That makes me crazy.
00:29:16.000 Of course there are influencers in the world who are completely fake, right?
00:29:20.000 But I also think that at least they're human, right?
00:29:24.000 I'd rather have a human person faking it than an actual fake person existing.
00:29:28.000 Dude, these photos all look fake, but they're like... But is it fake or is it... No, like an AI human, not a real person.
00:29:36.000 There's a ton of them out there.
00:29:37.000 It's crazy that we've gotten so conditioned that the fake people are more appealing than the real people.
00:29:43.000 This might be a real person, I can't tell.
00:29:45.000 I mean the other thing is because a lot of people photoshop their photos or face tune them, their photos start to have the AI effect without it actually being AI.
00:29:55.000 That's what I was worried about with all the filters.
00:29:56.000 At least this is when deepfake was coming out where everyone was doing all the filters.
00:29:59.000 If everyone was doing filters over their face, eventually the deepfake is going to be really difficult to tell from reality.
00:30:05.000 You're not going to be able to differentiate deepfake from filter covers.
00:30:10.000 Yeah, it's like they're ruining all the sense-making, you know, methods that we have.
00:30:14.000 And then to your point, like when you actually go, you have a town hall, you meet someone in person, like that is what they actually remember, right?
00:30:22.000 If you're only, especially people who are like really busy, whatever, they spend a lot of time on social media, like those fake human interactions fade away in comparison to interacting with a real human.
00:30:31.000 Yeah, exactly. 0.99
00:30:32.000 Yeah, we're fucked. 1.00
00:30:36.000 Young girls are already getting depressed because they don't look like Snapchat filters. 1.00
00:30:39.000 They're getting plastic surgery to look like Snapchat filters.
00:30:42.000 The craziest thing, man, is to see so many young women, plastic surgery. 1.00
00:30:47.000 What the fuck? 1.00
00:30:48.000 Tim, do you know who Vocal Distance is? 1.00
00:30:50.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:30:50.000 Do you ever follow, do you ever read his thread about the simulacrum?
00:30:53.000 About, like, a strawberry?
00:30:55.000 No.
00:30:55.000 So back, like, he has this big long thread, and I'm not gonna go through the whole thing, but essentially what he said is like, imagine back in the day, A hundred years ago, a kid has a strawberry, right?
00:31:05.000 That's a strawberry.
00:31:07.000 Then take that same strawberry and then you extract the juice and sugar out of it and you concentrate it and you put it into a candy and give it to the kid.
00:31:16.000 And it's the strawberry on 10.
00:31:17.000 And then you take that, you take that candy and then you put it into a soda drink with caffeine and with extra sugar and blah, blah, blah.
00:31:25.000 And then, and it gets to a point where the kid doesn't know what a real strawberry tastes like.
00:31:31.000 And what's going on on Instagram is Especially with young ladies, it is becoming basically a simulacrum, an imitation. 0.62
00:31:42.000 A copy of a copy of a copy.
00:31:45.000 But it's a sexualized thing.
00:31:47.000 Girls aren't girls, they're girls that are scantily clad and they're face-tuned. 1.00
00:31:53.000 And they're virgins! 1.00
00:31:54.000 That's the funny thing. 0.87
00:31:56.000 Increasingly, young people are not having sex.
00:31:59.000 So you're having all these hyper-sexualized young women on OnlyFans, but they've never had sex. 0.99
00:32:03.000 There was a viral video where a woman who was arguably attractive was saying things like, I don't have any friends.
00:32:10.000 I stay at home all day.
00:32:11.000 I've never had a boyfriend.
00:32:12.000 And it was like, she was like an influencer with a shillet of followers and like an attractive young woman.
00:32:16.000 Bizarre.
00:32:17.000 I was just gonna say that the most significant proof of what you're talking about is Kylie Jenner, who told all the girls that she followed, no, I don't have lip fillers, no, I don't have lip fillers, I just overline my lips.
00:32:30.000 She's a billionaire for a makeup company.
00:32:32.000 She profited off giving girls something that is completely unrealistic and being like, but if you just overline your lips with my specific products, you too can finally have this look.
00:32:43.000 I mean, it's crazy.
00:32:44.000 Remember the glass jar thing they would do?
00:32:47.000 Kylie Jenner challenge? 0.98
00:32:48.000 Yeah, they would suck their lips or whatever. 1.00
00:32:50.000 What have I done? 0.99
00:32:51.000 You know, the thing that sucks is a friend of mine, like there was a girl that I'd gone on a couple of dates with and she committed suicide earlier this year.
00:32:59.000 And she was one of those, you know, she was a, her name was niece and she was an Instagram, you know, and she had had some challenges with mental health, obviously.
00:33:07.000 And there was one of the posts she put up like right before she passed away.
00:33:11.000 She put up a picture of herself that she had photoshopped and then her in the same spot without the Photoshop and the difference was so slight.
00:33:22.000 And it really bothers me when I think about it because she was really pretty and she was really cool and she just had the worst self-image.
00:33:30.000 There's a story I covered today where this 37-year-old woman was like, I don't recognize myself anymore. 0.99
00:33:35.000 And it's funny because what we're seeing is the normal process of aging for women.
00:33:41.000 Now they're talking about it amongst themselves publicly for everyone to see, whereas they used to just not do that.
00:33:46.000 A woman would be 37 going there and be like, I'm getting crow's feet. 1.00
00:33:50.000 Now they take pictures of themselves every single day.
00:33:53.000 They take their highlights and their Photoshops and put them as their profile pictures.
00:33:56.000 And then one day they look at their picture and look in the mirror and go, huh?
00:33:58.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:33:59.000 What the fuck? 0.99
00:34:00.000 That's not me. 1.00
00:34:00.000 And they're starting to lose it. 1.00
00:34:02.000 Yeah.
00:34:03.000 Yeah.
00:34:04.000 I don't know if I am just gonna sound like the old guy here, but I feel like I'm probably older than you.
00:34:08.000 The social media, I'm 42.
00:34:10.000 I'm older than you!
00:34:10.000 Are you?
00:34:11.000 Okay, cool.
00:34:13.000 Tell me if I'm super old.
00:34:14.000 I mean, I feel like the whole social media thing, it's really affecting the way people communicate with each other.
00:34:17.000 Because I feel like there's a difference when I talk to like really young folks, like the zoomers or whatever, just going door to door and getting out there more in the community and talking to folks that are, you know, 20, 25 years younger than me. 1.00
00:34:28.000 I feel like there's a difference between 20 year olds and me.
00:34:30.000 The communication is just, it's not there.
00:34:32.000 I didn't, I don't feel that way about the millennials.
00:34:34.000 I don't know if that's because it's one removed.
00:34:35.000 No, no, no.
00:34:36.000 I feel the same.
00:34:37.000 Yeah.
00:34:37.000 It's just the, the basic social interaction stuff of like, hi, how are you doing?
00:34:40.000 Oh, I'm doing fine.
00:34:41.000 Good.
00:34:41.000 More like those types of things.
00:34:42.000 It's just, it's quickly fading.
00:34:44.000 And I think a lot of it's because of the, just the, the Instagram culture or the lockdowns.
00:34:48.000 I don't know.
00:34:48.000 Texting, cell phones, social media.
00:34:51.000 It's the lack of looking people in the eye.
00:34:53.000 Yeah.
00:34:53.000 Yeah.
00:34:53.000 They're not communicating with humans.
00:34:55.000 Humans are weird.
00:34:56.000 Yeah.
00:34:57.000 Avatars for your online entity.
00:35:00.000 Yeah.
00:35:00.000 But we're gonna we're gonna get this one up.
00:35:02.000 So I don't want to go too late.
00:35:03.000 But so I'll just hard segue wrap up.
00:35:06.000 Joe, thanks for hanging out.
00:35:06.000 It's been a blast.
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00:35:11.000 And we'll see y'all next time.