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00:00:23.000 I know who's responsible for the wildfires in Maui. 0.96

00:00:27.000 White people! 0.98

00:00:27.000 Ah! 0.98

00:00:29.000 That's right.

00:00:30.000 Did you read that in the news?

00:00:32.000 I did, in the New York Times apparently.

00:00:34.000 They have this, this is from townhall.com.

00:00:38.000 We were all waiting for the left to voice this terrible opinion on the Maui wildfires from Matt Vespa.

00:00:44.000 And he says, you knew this opinion piece would bubble up at some point.

00:00:47.000 The Maui wildfires, etc, etc.

00:00:50.000 The cause of the fires yet to be determined.

00:00:51.000 I guess they're saying it's power lines.

00:00:53.000 But for some, the Maui wildfires, which have destroyed communities and shattered families, was an opportunity to bash Americans and America and blame the real culprit of these fires. 0.96

00:01:02.000 White people. 0.97

00:01:02.000 Whitey! 0.97

00:01:03.000 Now is not the time for pseudo-intellectual lectures about the perils of colonialism.

00:01:08.000 That's basically what they're saying. 0.90

00:01:09.000 White people came in and took over. 0.99

00:01:11.000 If you type in what caused the fires, it's ideas from the article. 0.88

00:01:15.000 Intergovernmental panel says climate change blah blah blah.

00:01:18.000 When Christian missionaries transformed an area that was mostly wetlands into large-scale sugar plantations that required the digging of tunnels in the buildings blah blah blah.

00:01:24.000 The sugar and pineapple industries led to the deforestation etc etc.

00:01:28.000 I had to stop here.

00:01:29.000 What the hell is this?

00:01:31.000 To understand the fires, we must look to the 19th century.

00:01:33.000 No, we don't.

00:01:34.000 There are more pressing matters at hand, like finding the hundreds that are still missing.

00:01:37.000 But you get the point.

00:01:38.000 They're saying it's colonization. 1.00

00:01:41.000 It is that white people came, and you know, they're bad. 0.99

00:01:44.000 So colonization of Hawaii, like, so first of all, like, it was bad that, you know, they were, they kind of, you know. 0.97

00:01:50.000 It was an invasion.

00:01:51.000 They kind of took over the island.

00:01:52.000 And I think it was in violation of some, like, conventions or something.

00:01:55.000 Sorry we brought you power, man.

00:01:57.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:01:59.000 That's not it.

00:01:59.000 Because the thing is, because of Hawaii's location, there was never, because Hawaii is so small and it is so remote and located, In the middle of the biggest ocean on earth, there was never a chance for it to avoid being gobbled up by some massive power.

00:02:16.000 You can't be an island nation with that kind of strategic value and think that Russia or Japan or the United States or someone isn't going to go ahead and say, we're going to come here with our military infrastructure and put something here.

00:02:30.000 Now you can say it's wrong, you can disapprove of it, but that you are not gonna, there is nowhere on earth that's insulated from the rest of earth the way that it needs to be to make sure that it doesn't, like North Sentinel Island's the only place, you know?

00:02:44.000 What's going on there?

00:02:44.000 But they're protected.

00:02:45.000 What?

00:02:46.000 What's going on in North Sentinel Island?

00:02:47.000 Nothing.

00:02:47.000 What do you mean they're protected by what?

00:02:49.000 You will be speared if you show up.

00:02:51.000 The natives have never been made contact with. 0.99

00:02:54.000 When people show up, they kill you.

00:02:55.000 And it's protected by, I think, like India or whatever? 0.86

00:02:58.000 India, yeah.

00:02:59.000 It's actually a part of India.

00:03:00.000 They run their own stuff. 0.94

00:03:02.000 And if you go there, they're going to shoot arrows at you.

00:03:04.000 And a couple years ago... Yeah, a helicopter flew by and they were shooting arrows at it.

00:03:08.000 A couple years ago, a guy got killed because he tried to go there.

00:03:11.000 You ever seen Cannibal Holocaust before? 0.91

00:03:13.000 Anybody ever watch that?

00:03:14.000 No.

00:03:14.000 I won't bring it up.

00:03:15.000 There's a visual, like a video simulation of the colonization of the Pacific that's fucking wretched. 0.96

00:03:20.000 You guys gotta watch it at some point. 0.95

00:03:21.000 I just gotta say, Phil, I'm sorry.

00:03:23.000 You've just proved them right.

00:03:24.000 What?

00:03:25.000 North Sentinel Island hasn't burned down.

00:03:27.000 That proves it!

00:03:30.000 But North Sentinel Island is not remote like Hawaii.

00:03:33.000 It doesn't have power lines on it, does it?

00:03:36.000 No, there are no power lines on North Sentinel Island.

00:03:38.000 Guys, I have to say this.

00:03:40.000 It is difficult for me.

00:03:42.000 Without Luke or Serge here, I'm the only person of color.

00:03:45.000 That's not true.

00:03:46.000 I'm Polish.

00:03:47.000 Oh, you are?

00:03:47.000 Congratulations!

00:03:49.000 And it's not one-sixteenth, it's a quarter, okay?

00:03:52.000 I'm only a quarter Korean, so that counts. 0.97

00:03:55.000 Oh, so we can rag on these white dudes. 1.00

00:03:57.000 Yeah, I do it all the time. 0.96

00:03:59.000 I've been called the blackest member of the Libertarian Party several times.

00:04:03.000 I never 23 and meed myself, so I don't know if I'm black or white or colored or not. 0.88

00:04:09.000 I'm confident that you're white. 0.99

00:04:12.000 I'm Spanish.

00:04:13.000 I'm mostly Spanish.

00:04:14.000 I think I might be Neanderthal.

00:04:16.000 Spanish is white. 0.99

00:04:18.000 Polish is a person of color.

00:04:19.000 What if I'm 5% Neanderthal? 0.95

00:04:21.000 Then you're still white. 0.92

00:04:22.000 Then you're not human, actually.

00:04:23.000 Then you count as an animal.

00:04:25.000 That's what I'm talking about.

00:04:28.000 Yeah, and you have actually less rights.

00:04:29.000 You gotta go with the communists, buddy.

00:04:31.000 I'm gonna side with the white colonists. 0.98

00:04:34.000 Not that they're white, but that the colonists did cause this. 0.99

00:04:36.000 Joe Biden tweeted today that he's laser-focused on the Maui recovery.

00:04:41.000 He should probably be a little less focused, considering the situation.

00:04:47.000 Dude, we had Nick Sorter on the show last night, and I mean, he's basically almost explaining what we're talking about right now, that people came in, they set up power lines, they kind of modernized and colonized the island, and then they don't take the wood out of the- they don't, like, keep up the forest.

00:05:02.000 You're supposed to go in and remove the dead wood from underneath the trees so that these brush fires don't happen, and they haven't been doing that.

00:05:07.000 It is not white people that are doing that, though.

00:05:09.000 White people are not the people in charge of the island.

00:05:11.000 It's the Democrats.

00:05:12.000 On the West Coast, it's the Democrats.

00:05:14.000 And I'll tell you, I grew up on the West Coast, all up and down Oregon and Washington and California.

00:05:18.000 Progressive deforestation policies have created all the wildfires on the West Coast, period.

00:05:22.000 They've stopped clearing the underbrush, they stopped taking down trees, so there's trees growing right next to trees.

00:05:27.000 It's like a giant tinderbox.

00:05:29.000 Why did they stop?

00:05:30.000 Because of the push from the left for you know conservation.

00:05:34.000 Oh to leave it natural?

00:05:35.000 Yeah.

00:05:36.000 I mean part of our natural survival is our ability to go in from the beaches, into the forest, get the dead wood out, go back to the beaches to set up life.

00:05:44.000 The natural thing is forest fires.

00:05:45.000 The logging?

00:05:45.000 The natural thing is to let the forest fires go and... Never.

00:05:48.000 There was never forest fires when I was a kid.

00:05:50.000 There were, but they were nothing.

00:05:51.000 Like there's 150 of them in Oregon every year now.

00:05:54.000 There's power lines going through all those forests now and if you're gonna do that you need to do management of the forest.

00:05:58.000 It's white people, man. 0.67

00:05:59.000 So...

00:06:01.000 I agree with Phil, and I also agree with you.

00:06:03.000 It's progressive deforestation policies have led to giant tinderboxes all up and down the West Coast.

00:06:07.000 There's no doubt about it.

00:06:09.000 And anybody who's arguing that at this point is just a Democrat or doesn't understand what they're talking about.

00:06:14.000 And those policies have bled into Hawaii?

00:06:16.000 I'm sure, yeah.

00:06:17.000 Well, the stuff that's on Hawaii is a little different.

00:06:20.000 I don't know what their policies are, but I know that the stuff that caught on fire was grasslands.

00:06:28.000 I believe that Hawaii was on purpose.

00:06:31.000 The fire was on purpose?

00:06:33.000 If not that it was set, that it was allowed to happen?

00:06:36.000 Here's the thing, if it wasn't on purpose, they still used it to make sure that they could get really cheap real estate.

00:06:44.000 The government.

00:06:45.000 And there's a story about one of the residents was arrested for trying to go back to his house.

00:06:51.000 And they're blocking off all the destruction?

00:06:53.000 They were blocking off people trying to get out!

00:06:55.000 Right.

00:06:55.000 There's a guy, he's 39, he was trying to go back to his property apparently.

00:06:58.000 They said they saw him leaving so they arrested him and said that was trespassing, you're not allowed in there.

00:07:04.000 And when they reported on the arrest, most outlets did not mention that he was actually a resident trying to go back to his property.

00:07:11.000 Perhaps because there's like valuables that are hard metal.

00:07:15.000 Like imagine you've got, I don't know, let's say you have a couple hundred bucks worth of silver.

00:07:19.000 That silver's still there.

00:07:20.000 It's not destroyed in the fire.

00:07:21.000 You wanna go get it?

00:07:21.000 Nope, sorry.

00:07:22.000 Oh, and there's safes that are fire- Oh, totally.

00:07:26.000 Absolutely.

00:07:27.000 So dude's got, like, a photo album or something, or some memory cards, or hard drives, or money.

00:07:32.000 Probably money.

00:07:33.000 Yup.

00:07:34.000 And he wants to go get it back, so they arrest him. 0.99

00:07:36.000 Like, what the fuck is going on? 0.98

00:07:37.000 That they're keeping these people out? 0.98

00:07:38.000 Well, and they're offering to buy that property for pennies on the dollar now, and...

00:07:43.000 Oprah and Hillary are sitting there up on the mountain having coffee, watching it, going, we're gonna get some new property.

00:07:48.000 It's literally some of the most valuable property in the world, too.

00:07:51.000 Oh, yeah, no doubt.

00:07:53.000 Like I said, Hawaii is really, really unique.

00:07:56.000 It's one of the most remote places in the world.

00:07:58.000 The value of the shoreline there, you know, it's beyond astronomical.

00:08:05.000 There have been developers trying to get the local owners of the property, who've owned it for generations, offering them tens of millions of dollars for a lot, and they're not selling because they don't want to, you know, they don't want to lose the property.

00:08:21.000 It's literally priceless because there's nowhere else in the world like it.

00:08:24.000 It's their family's property too, they got it.

00:08:26.000 I think Nick quoted it as one square acre, one acre squared, is that how you say it?

00:08:31.000 Is ten million?

00:08:32.000 One lot.

00:08:32.000 That would make sense.

00:08:33.000 One lot, I think he said.

00:08:34.000 One acre?

00:08:34.000 Or was it five acres?

00:08:35.000 I think it was one acre.

00:08:36.000 It was ten million.

00:08:36.000 It's a tiny piece of land for how much money it was.

00:08:39.000 I know that.

00:08:39.000 I think it was like one lot, he was saying.

00:08:41.000 Like waterfront, one lot in Lahaina.

00:08:44.000 He's like ten mil.

00:08:45.000 Easy.

00:08:46.000 Worth every cent.

00:08:47.000 Worth every cent.

00:08:48.000 Without a property.

00:08:49.000 Just the land.

00:08:50.000 If I had the money to buy property in Hawaii, again, I would buy property in Hawaii again because they're not making any more.

00:08:56.000 It's the most valuable piece of land that you could probably get your hands on.

00:08:59.000 The volcanoes are making more.

00:09:01.000 Yeah, they're only making them on the big island though.

00:09:03.000 They're not making any more property on the other islands.

00:09:06.000 Yeah, it's so sad.

00:09:09.000 And I've heard, I don't know if this is true, but apparently Maui was supposed to be a candidate for like a smart island.

00:09:15.000 So they're supposed to do all this like green renovations anyway.

00:09:20.000 And I think this is going to definitely speed up the process.

00:09:22.000 Well look, I went up on Zillow and 2.3 million for 15 acres.

00:09:26.000 Where?

00:09:30.000 Lina.

00:09:30.000 Coastal.

00:09:31.000 Really?

00:09:31.000 What?

00:09:32.000 Yeah.

00:09:33.000 Buy it, Tim.

00:09:34.000 How much?

00:09:36.000 2.3 million.

00:09:36.000 Here's a $1,000,000 lot.

00:09:38.000 Oh, it's also... They're like semi-coastal because it's a road.

00:09:43.000 But yeah, $1,000,000 for 15 acres.

00:09:46.000 Buy it.

00:09:47.000 In Lahaina?

00:09:48.000 But why?

00:09:48.000 Does it say that in Lahaina right now?

00:09:50.000 Lahaina, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:09:51.000 Lahaina, Hawaii.

00:09:52.000 There's a photo of one house in the middle of all the fire that survived.

00:09:55.000 50 days on Zillow.

00:09:57.000 So these are old listings, obviously.

00:10:00.000 But they've frozen sales, so you can't buy them.

00:10:01.000 3.5 million.

00:10:02.000 What do we got here?

00:10:03.000 This has got to be a property, I'd imagine.

00:10:04.000 This has got to be, like, an actual building.

00:10:06.000 This one is, uh... Nope.

00:10:08.000 25 acres.

00:10:08.000 Wow.

00:10:09.000 Lot land.

00:10:10.000 Oh, it's all just land.

00:10:11.000 What's going on?

00:10:13.000 Is it just, like, vertical?

00:10:14.000 Like, 60 degree angles?

00:10:16.000 Maybe that's it, though.

00:10:17.000 Uninhabitable.

00:10:18.000 There's no houses for sale.

00:10:19.000 No, they're there.

00:10:20.000 I just have to select.

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00:11:29.000 Taking a long time.

00:11:31.000 These are apparently old listings, though.

00:11:34.000 Okay, here we go.

00:11:35.000 That didn't add much.

00:11:36.000 What is this?

00:11:37.000 Maybe if I turn the Wi-Fi on... Oh, here we go.

00:11:40.000 Two-bedroom, two-bath, 3.5 million.

00:11:41.000 Wow.

00:11:41.000 Here we go, two bedroom, two bath, 3.5 million.

00:11:44.000 Wow, 13, it's on a, so these houses are on like, you know, 15 acres is big.

00:11:52.000 So this is a two bedroom, two bath, thousand square foot, it's 3.5.

00:11:54.000 It's 3.5 million.

00:11:55.000 Beautiful house.

00:11:56.000 Probably no longer exists.

00:11:57.000 It's been on the market for 118 days.

00:11:59.000 I don't think this house is there anymore.

00:12:00.000 Whoa.

00:12:00.000 Yeah, that's crazy.

00:12:02.000 I'll tell you this.

00:12:03.000 Oh, wait, no.

00:12:04.000 There's a lot of land, uh, two towns away from me in Iowa right now.

00:12:04.000 What happened?

00:12:10.000 71 acres with a seven bedroom old school farmhouse on it.

00:12:13.000 Bunch of farms and other stuff comes with a tractor for the cornfield.

00:12:16.000 I think $1.1 million.

00:12:17.000 71 acres.

00:12:17.000 Wow.

00:12:20.000 $11,000,000 for a 5 bedroom, 5.5 bath, 5,777 square feet on 5 acres.

00:12:21.000 Geez.

00:12:22.000 How much was that, Josh?

00:12:22.000 71 acres in Iowa right now for sale for $1.1 million.

00:12:22.000 $11,000,000.

00:12:24.000 777 square feet on five acres 11 million you can get that Josh

00:12:30.000 71 acres in Iowa right now for sell for 1.1 million dollars.

00:12:34.000 Yeah, I bought what 70 Yeah, that's terrible.

00:12:38.000 You can get 130 acres in West Virginia in like Morgan County.

00:12:45.000 This has a seven bedroom farmhouse farm, comes with the corn tractor, all the irrigation.

00:12:52.000 I think that's expensive.

00:12:53.000 77 acres?

00:12:53.000 I'm from California, easy $20 million deal where I'm from.

00:12:53.000 That's cheap.

00:13:00.000 If it's a functional farm, then it's not bad because you can literally go in and start producing a profit.

00:13:07.000 So we got 50 acres with two standing structures, one in need of renovation but still sound, one brand new building, and the 50 acres was $750.

00:13:21.000 That's really nice.

00:13:23.000 That's West Virginia.

00:13:24.000 Yeah, that is really nice.

00:13:24.000 That's normal.

00:13:25.000 I didn't know it was that cheap here.

00:13:26.000 Yeah, and we're, and we're, you're an hour from the airport.

00:13:29.000 So that's why when you were like a million for seven, I'm like, that's not that good.

00:13:29.000 Yeah.

00:13:34.000 I think it's like 71.2 acres.

00:13:34.000 71.

00:13:35.000 I have a much easier to clear the land.

00:13:38.000 Yeah.

00:13:39.000 I have a feeling he's talking about an actual farm and what you got was like property with a stroke with structures.

00:13:43.000 He's got like the infrastructure.

00:13:46.000 It's got a full cornfield and you get, you know, you've got a cornfield in Iowa, you get them corn subsidies, man.

00:13:51.000 Yeah, if you got cornfield, that means you grow the food that you can give to your dairy cows.

00:13:57.000 So we were talking about doing this out here of, um, there was like a hundred acre lot.

00:14:03.000 Let me, uh, let me try and look.

00:14:05.000 Hundred acres is a lot.

00:14:06.000 Are you talking about the reserve?

00:14:08.000 Yeah, we were talking about making like a public Let's do this.

00:14:11.000 Let's I remember the name 100 acres is a lot of acres we were gonna buy and just be like come build whatever you want And we'll like we're not gonna charge rent or anything, but there's gonna be like it's not for you to live and whatever it's still like have fun things make a little fur trader hut or something and then you'll have you'll have that piece of land and For as long as you decide, and then if you leave and don't come back after a certain amount of time, we take it and we'll give it to somebody else, but it's basically like a park where people can do fun stuff.

00:14:38.000 That's a pretty cool idea.

00:14:39.000 Yeah, it was right around when Elon took over Twitter, and those two guys memed the internet, Ligma Johnson.

00:14:44.000 Yes, yep.

00:14:44.000 And so we were having fun with the different names we can make with a preserve.

00:14:49.000 That was a good couple weeks there.

00:14:49.000 That was a lot of fun.

00:14:51.000 I really enjoyed that.

00:14:53.000 Time flies, man.

00:14:54.000 It seems like it was not that long ago.

00:14:55.000 It was over a year.

00:14:56.000 It was a while ago, yeah.

00:14:57.000 Yeah, because I've had my Twitter back I was kicked off Twitter for over a year.

00:15:02.000 I got kicked off in, I want to say it was October of 2020.

00:15:07.000 Why?

00:15:08.000 I never got a reason.

00:15:10.000 Were you talking about COVID?

00:15:11.000 No, I was talking about pedophiles, I think.

00:15:13.000 Oh, October 2020, good timing.

00:15:15.000 Yeah, I think it was that map.

00:15:18.000 The teacher who was saying that we had to normalize the term minor attracted person and that De-stigmatized the word pedophile, and I was just like that's really nice now face the wall and I think I think it was that was the last straw, but I had already had a bunch of strikes talking about kovat and the Products and stuff all the vaccines now.

00:15:36.000 We're on the after-show fucking vaccines Yeah, I was talking about I was talking about kovat a lot.

00:15:43.000 I read maybe it was 2021 when I got kicked off and I don't remember. 0.98

00:15:48.000 But I was off for over a year.

00:15:49.000 I know I was over a year.

00:15:50.000 And then I had sent an appeal every single day for 365 days.

00:15:55.000 And then all of a sudden one day I woke up and my Twitter was back.

00:15:58.000 What day?

00:15:59.000 I don't remember.

00:16:00.000 But within the last six months or before that?

00:16:03.000 No, I feel like it's been a while now.

00:16:04.000 It's been over six months for sure.

00:16:06.000 After Elon bought it?

00:16:07.000 Right after Elon bought it.

00:16:08.000 Within a couple of weeks, yeah.

00:16:09.000 Because I was already at almost a 20,000 follower.

00:16:13.000 Here you go.

00:16:14.000 260 acres in Morgan County, West Virginia.

00:16:17.000 That's crazy.

00:16:17.000 1.5 million.

00:16:17.000 Wow.

00:16:18.000 Got a big old barn on it.

00:16:18.000 That's beautiful.

00:16:20.000 Got water access.

00:16:21.000 Look at this.

00:16:21.000 Is that a deer barn?

00:16:22.000 That's crazy.

00:16:22.000 So forests like that, that's why Appalachia is a stronghold if anyone invades us.

00:16:26.000 Yeah, it's going to be hard to get through there.

00:16:27.000 But these things are basically everywhere.

00:16:28.000 You ain't riding tanks through there very easy.

00:16:30.000 No.

00:16:31.000 116 for a mil.

00:16:32.000 That's pretty wild.

00:16:34.000 What do we got here?

00:16:35.000 How much is this one?

00:16:35.000 2.9... 1,000!

00:16:36.000 Look at that view!

00:16:40.000 936 acres for 2.9 million.

00:16:41.000 Jeez, dude.

00:16:41.000 That's a ranch, my friend.

00:16:43.000 That might be worth getting.

00:16:44.000 Yeah.

00:16:44.000 Yeah, that's a ranch.

00:16:45.000 Oh, you get that river access is... Yeah.

00:16:48.000 Especially in the future, man.

00:16:49.000 You're gonna control resources in that area, for sure.

00:16:51.000 There's no doubt.

00:16:52.000 Yeah.

00:16:52.000 You can build cities and stuff.

00:16:54.000 105 acres for $290,000.

00:16:55.000 I could buy something like that.

00:16:56.000 A whole lot to clear.

00:17:00.000 Wow.

00:17:00.000 That would be... That's crazy.

00:17:02.000 That's really cool, yeah.

00:17:03.000 That's wild for 2.9.

00:17:05.000 That's wild.

00:17:05.000 It's only $290,000.

00:17:05.000 $290,000.

00:17:05.000 Wait a minute, what?

00:17:06.000 $290,000 for 100 acres.

00:17:06.000 What?

00:17:06.000 No way.

00:17:06.000 It's only 290,000.

00:17:08.000 290,000?

00:17:08.000 Wait a minute, what?

00:17:09.000 290,000 for 100 acres?

00:17:12.000 What?

00:17:13.000 No way.

00:17:14.000 Yeah, put down 5%.

00:17:16.000 Does it say that you can't build there or something?

00:17:18.000 There's gotta be some kind of caveat. 0.98

00:17:19.000 No, it's just in the middle of fucking nowhere, dude. 0.91

00:17:22.000 Land is, yeah, land out, like, when you got, like, land with, like, nothing on it, it's not super expensive. 0.93

00:17:27.000 Does it cost so much to renovate?

00:17:29.000 Well, I mean, yeah, you gotta clear it, and you gotta build on it and stuff.

00:17:32.000 I thought it was 2.9 million for a minute, and then I looked closer.

00:17:35.000 I can't see that far away.

00:17:37.000 As I got a little data about Hawaii, it was first colonized by the United States in 1900.

00:17:37.000 I got bad eyes.

00:17:42.000 How far away from the airport is that?

00:17:43.000 About an hour?

00:17:44.000 If you start going further out to like the Maryland Panhandle.

00:17:47.000 Yeah, that's wild.

00:17:48.000 276 acres for 900.

00:17:50.000 How far away from the airport is that?

00:17:52.000 So...

00:17:52.000 About an hour?

00:17:53.000 This is Cumberland. It's basically super close to Cumberland.

00:17:55.000 You're further than an hour away.

00:17:57.000 You're gonna want to do some kind of puddle jumper from a small airport. 0.96

00:18:01.000 But from...

00:18:02.000 Martinsburg has one.

00:18:03.000 Pittsburgh's like an hour, like probably two hours from here.

00:18:05.000 Oh, that's not far, okay.

00:18:06.000 Right, and then you're, the air, like, you're gonna, hour and 45, maybe two hours to one of the DC airports.

00:18:12.000 Pittsburgh?

00:18:13.000 Pennsylvania's only that, is that close to here?

00:18:15.000 Oh, yeah, dude.

00:18:16.000 Gettysburg is like, what, like 45 minutes away?

00:18:19.000 Oh, wow.

00:18:20.000 We get Steelers games out here.

00:18:21.000 Really?

00:18:21.000 Yeah, Gettysburg's right over here.

00:18:24.000 I just, uh... You want to stay away from Maryland, but here you go.

00:18:27.000 In Maryland, which is like 30-40 minutes from the airport, 590,000 for 150 acres.

00:18:33.000 Thurmont's good, though.

00:18:34.000 Thurmont is MAGA country, definitely. 0.99

00:18:37.000 Yeah, but who cares, because Baltimore is not, and Baltimore's gonna send state troopers to beat the fuck out of you if you have a gun. 0.98

00:18:42.000 Yeah. 0.97

00:18:44.000 Yeah, I won't go anywhere that doesn't allow me constitutional carry, that's for sure. 0.99

00:18:49.000 You just gotta go all the way out to the middle of nowhere here and get... That's more expensive, shit. 0.88

00:18:55.000 I love the middle of nowhere stuff, but the problem is we couldn't do the show. 0.96

00:18:58.000 We wanted to, we wanted to go to like Wyoming or Montana.

00:19:00.000 It's hard with the internet, right?

00:19:01.000 Someone said make sure the land is not perked.

00:19:04.000 They may not let you build.

00:19:05.000 Perked or they may not let you build, I don't know what that means.

00:19:07.000 That's the hardest part about being in Iowa too, is we only got like one gig.

00:19:11.000 And it's... I can't multi-stream my show.

00:19:15.000 You need to get like five star links and then bond to them.

00:19:18.000 Yeah, I gotta do something crazy.

00:19:20.000 Because I use OBS to put the show out, and so if I try to restream to three or four different platforms, we'll start dropping frames right away, and then we'll drop the whole show.

00:19:33.000 I only stream to YouTube, and then Otto uploads to Rumble and other places.

00:19:39.000 Here you go.

00:19:41.000 113 acres for $1,000.

00:19:42.000 No.

00:19:42.000 In Iowa.

00:19:45.000 What?

00:19:46.000 Yeah.

00:19:46.000 Is that Iowa?

00:19:47.000 Yep.

00:19:47.000 Where?

00:19:48.000 Westgate.

00:19:50.000 Dude, buy it right now.

00:19:54.000 Can you put a buy now in for me, please?

00:19:56.000 No, these are fake.

00:19:57.000 It's like $1.

00:19:57.000 It's not real.

00:19:59.000 I think that's auctions.

00:20:00.000 They'll do that.

00:20:00.000 Look around Adele.

00:20:03.000 We live in West Des Moines.

00:20:04.000 They might have that property in Adele.

00:20:07.000 Here you go.

00:20:07.000 156 for Adele.

00:20:11.000 It's right outside of Des Moines somewhere.

00:20:13.000 They're all basically a million bucks.

00:20:14.000 I live in West Des Moines.

00:20:15.000 Oh, here you go, dude.

00:20:16.000 118 for 200k.

00:20:17.000 Yeah, that's not bad.

00:20:18.000 Oh, it's an auction.

00:20:18.000 It's an auction.

00:20:19.000 Of course.

00:20:19.000 Yeah, dude.

00:20:20.000 Iowa's expensive, man.

00:20:21.000 You know why?

00:20:22.000 It's because Chicago's right there.

00:20:23.000 Yeah, we're about five hours away from Chicago, where we live.

00:20:26.000 Minneapolis too.

00:20:27.000 Yeah.

00:20:28.000 That's the coolest.

00:20:28.000 That's the coolest part about Iowa is you can get so many places in 10 hours.

00:20:32.000 You can get to like 20, 20 states in 10 hours, either way.

00:20:35.000 It's crazy.

00:20:36.000 See, that's the thing.

00:20:37.000 I drive everywhere.

00:20:38.000 Not like anyone's going to go buy a hundred acres, but yo, seriously, let's like, let's, let's, let's do this.

00:20:44.000 Let's, uh, let's do a lot size of one acre to five acres. 0.99

00:20:51.000 And then let's set the price way down 200.

00:20:53.000 Yeah.

00:20:54.000 There's tons of land to be had.

00:20:57.000 Five acres for $200.

00:20:58.000 That's a Tumwa too. 0.96

00:20:59.000 That's a pretty cool spot.

00:21:01.000 Yeah, that's the thing, like, people need to understand about buying properties.

00:21:05.000 We don't have any mountains, though.

00:21:06.000 You don't need $200,000.

00:21:07.000 You save up for a few years until you get a down payment, and then you buy it, but you gotta figure out what your income is to pay that loan off or whatever.

00:21:13.000 Phil, do you- We're gonna go to callers.

00:21:16.000 Sweet.

00:21:16.000 Are you in the middle of nowhere, your place?

00:21:19.000 Not particularly middle of nowhere.

00:21:20.000 I mean, it's a small town.

00:21:21.000 Do we have an order request?

00:21:22.000 No particular order tonight, however you want to do it.

00:21:24.000 Alright, Liam the Censor, we're starting with you!

00:21:27.000 Welcome to the show.

00:21:29.000 Thank you all so much for having me on.

00:21:31.000 So, my question for the panel, given that World War III seems to be pretty likely, I wanted to see if you all, like if Article 5 was triggered, do you all think that there's a possibility that the U.S.

00:21:50.000 might not even send troops and that we'd essentially act as a manufacturing base for the rest of NATO so that they could deal with the... We already sent troops!

00:21:59.000 I mean, like, large scale.

00:22:00.000 I'm talking, like, you know, not just special forces.

00:22:04.000 I'm, you know what I mean?

00:22:06.000 Because I mean, like, at that point, you're kind of... Nah, we, we, but, but, so, yes, definitely boots on the ground.

00:22:12.000 No question.

00:22:13.000 But I reject the premise of the question that World War III is likely.

00:22:17.000 I don't.

00:22:19.000 At least, I think that the Ukraine thing, it's not unlikely. 0.99

00:22:22.000 I think we're pushing Russia into the arms of China, and we're messing with China at the same time. 0.95

00:22:27.000 It's a little worrisome for sure.

00:22:29.000 I don't know if it's imminent, but it's definitely worrisome.

00:22:32.000 It should be worrisome to everybody.

00:22:35.000 For sure.

00:22:36.000 And Taiwan is a tripwire for war.

00:22:38.000 Right.

00:22:40.000 And considering we have troops already in Europe and we have special forces already in Ukraine, more support is going to be sent.

00:22:50.000 You could maybe make the argument that we're not going to see heavy combat from our personnel in the immediate But we send, you know, tech support and supplies, and we have a large amount of soldiers on military bases throughout Europe, but yeah.

00:23:02.000 And Article 5 means every member of NATO.

00:23:05.000 Yep.

00:23:05.000 But that's, the thing is, if you got a defensive pact, and then one of the, and then someone's in a war, and then they join your defensive pact after they're already in the war, it doesn't trigger your defensive pact.

00:23:15.000 I mean, I don't know that you can really say that.

00:23:20.000 Not historically it didn't.

00:23:21.000 I don't know what they would do though.

00:23:23.000 I personally, I'm anti-Ukraine and NATO.

00:23:26.000 There's absolutely no reason for Ukraine to be NATO.

00:23:29.000 Take that a step further, Phil.

00:23:30.000 To be anti-NATO.

00:23:31.000 Well, yes, I am.

00:23:32.000 Fair enough, I am.

00:23:33.000 But for this context, I'm absolutely against Ukraine being a part of NATO.

00:23:40.000 100%.

00:23:40.000 There is no reason to have a Ukraine Uh, join NATO.

00:23:45.000 All it does is make conflict with Russia more likely.

00:23:48.000 Ukraine and Russia have, like, a long, real deep history.

00:23:52.000 Russia comes from Ukraine.

00:23:54.000 Like, the Ukrainian Rus were the people that started Russia.

00:23:57.000 So, like, that, that history, we don't want to stick our nose in.

00:24:01.000 Like, we don't, I don't, I don't, there's no reason for the United States to do that, like, at all, so.

00:24:07.000 That's my take.

00:24:07.000 I just don't think that we should be defending Ukraine from Russia.

00:24:12.000 That's beyond our scope.

00:24:14.000 Or Taiwan from China, for that matter.

00:24:17.000 But Liam, did you want to elaborate any more on that one?

00:24:19.000 It was a simple answer, which I guess.

00:24:23.000 Yeah, like if you guys are okay with my elaborating on it.

00:24:26.000 Absolutely.

00:24:27.000 So like the reason I kind of thought about that was because, you know, despite us offshoring a lot, we still have a large manufacturing base.

00:24:35.000 We have a large population.

00:24:38.000 Plus, you have other countries where it'd probably be more likely that they'd be involved and be easier to logistically.

00:24:46.000 Not saying that we couldn't, because like you said, we do have military bases over there and troops in Europe already.

00:24:51.000 But in my opinion, the main reason I would think that that's a possibility, however likely, is because the American public, for all intents and purposes, is not wanting to get involved in a war here.

00:25:04.000 So it would almost be like, oh, well, we like we're at war with Russia, but we're not going to send troops over there.

00:25:11.000 Don't worry, guys.

00:25:12.000 We're just going to.

00:25:13.000 Here's what's going to happen.

00:25:14.000 Pittsburgh is going to have a major outage and there's going to be people screaming and rioting and the government's going to come out.

00:25:21.000 Joe Biden's going to say a cyber attack launched from Moscow took out a main water reclamation plant in Pittsburgh, resulting in a loss of water for three million people.

00:25:32.000 Females responding immediately, but my fellow Americans, this is an act of war, make no mistake. 0.92

00:25:38.000 And I'm now going to confer with my colleagues in Congress, or you know, with members of Congress, as to the appropriate response to how the United States deals with this overt act of war.

00:25:47.000 And then we're going to war.

00:25:48.000 And then you're going to have the media being like, they killed people!

00:25:54.000 10,000 dead in Pittsburgh and you're saying let them get away with it, you love Putin! 0.92

00:25:58.000 And it could even be worse than that.

00:26:01.000 They'll basically be Chris Christie all over the news.

00:26:03.000 Absolutely.

00:26:04.000 There will be an explosion and then they'll say that the Russians have taken credit for it, that it was an attack on our infrastructure because we manufacture a component in this area that was being used by the Ukrainians and then, you know, Russia's gonna deny it and they're gonna say we know they did it and they're targeting us because we believe in freedom.

00:26:24.000 And then they're going to say, we have to stop this.

00:26:26.000 But it may even be worse than that.

00:26:28.000 I imagine that if they want us to go to war, you'd need something more substantive than 9-11.

00:26:35.000 What that would be, I don't know, but cutting off the water or blowing up some kind of refinery or some kind of cyber attack that results in the deaths of several thousands.

00:26:45.000 Yeah, it'd have to kill a lot of people for sure.

00:26:47.000 Several thousand people?

00:26:48.000 What if it's something like they're sending Biden over there for peace talks and he gets kidnapped?

00:26:53.000 Or killed.

00:26:54.000 He's assassinated.

00:26:55.000 Replace Biden and you get your war.

00:26:57.000 Yeah, that's true. 1.00

00:26:58.000 Holy shit. 0.99

00:26:59.000 So, although most of them could be like, see you later pops. 1.00

00:27:04.000 Yeah, you need large-scale death.

00:27:07.000 So maybe Biden's vitting, here you go, Biden goes to visit some kind of, he's on the campaign trail visiting some union shop, and then something happens, they blame it on Russia.

00:27:19.000 They could assassinate Biden and blame it on Russia.

00:27:21.000 That wouldn't be enough.

00:27:23.000 In conjunction with a nuclear, I mean, I'm just, I don't even want to say it, because it's like, what am I saying?

00:27:27.000 They could, we would need mass death, like those words coming out of our mouths is not healthy. 1.00

00:27:34.000 That's stupid. 1.00

00:27:35.000 But being aware of false flags, it's not stupid. 1.00

00:27:37.000 It is. 0.98

00:27:37.000 In order for the United States... The plane to the darkness, you gotta expose it, but don't become it. 0.98

00:27:40.000 No one is doing that.

00:27:42.000 We're saying that's what they have to do.

00:27:44.000 It's what they would do and have done, and there's no reason they won't do it again. 1.00

00:27:47.000 And this idea that we better not just say it is stupid. 0.99

00:27:50.000 Just be careful with saying it over and over again. 1.00

00:27:53.000 We need mass death. 0.95

00:27:54.000 Be careful of saying that over and over again. 1.00

00:27:55.000 That's a ridiculous, weird, hippie notion. 0.93

00:27:58.000 Calling out the establishment because they engage in false flag attacks like the Gulf of Tonkin, and we all know about Operation Northwoods. 0.94

00:28:06.000 So, right now, we know they want to escalate the war.

00:28:09.000 If it comes to it, they will need U.S.

00:28:10.000 troops on the ground, and the only way to get that is if you get mass public support.

00:28:15.000 It's gonna be incredibly fucking difficult to pull off, considering the culture wars.

00:28:20.000 Especially with Biden, because he's not convincing. 0.94

00:28:22.000 So it's gonna have to be some kind of serious attack.

00:28:26.000 Like a Pearl Harbor.

00:28:28.000 You know, I... I mean, I...

00:28:30.000 I don't know that I am uncomfortable saying that I wouldn't put it past him, but once you pointed that out, like, if they smoke Biden, right?

00:28:37.000 Say, we're gonna get real conspiracy theory.

00:28:40.000 The feds or the CIA decides they're gonna smoke Biden, right?

00:28:43.000 They take care of the problem with Ukraine and his kid. 0.82

00:28:46.000 They take care of the problem of Biden.

00:28:49.000 I mean... He becomes a martyr.

00:28:52.000 He becomes a heroic image in history.

00:28:55.000 The Biden investigation no longer exists in the public space.

00:28:58.000 And Gavin Newsom can now run And then Kamala Harris was with Biden when the whole thing went down.

00:29:02.000 I think that's the plan, is Gavin Newsom. 0.92

00:29:05.000 And that scares the shit out of me.

00:29:08.000 Now that we've kind of gone very deep on this one, Liam, was that sufficient? 0.84

00:29:13.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:29:14.000 Thank y'all so much for having me on.

00:29:15.000 If I can just give a shout out, I think y'all should have JB McCuskey on.

00:29:19.000 He's West Virginia's auditor.

00:29:21.000 He's running for Attorney General.

00:29:23.000 He'd be a great guest.

00:29:24.000 Right on, man.

00:29:25.000 Also, if y'all ever want to come to Marshall, I'm Chair of College Republicans there.

00:29:29.000 We'd love to have you.

00:29:31.000 Word!

00:29:31.000 We are Marshall.

00:29:32.000 That's cool.

00:29:33.000 What is it?

00:29:34.000 You say Marshall?

00:29:34.000 Yes, sir.

00:29:34.000 Yeah, we are Marshall.

00:29:36.000 It's good.

00:29:37.000 I know from the movie.

00:29:38.000 Is that Ohio?

00:29:40.000 Marshall?

00:29:40.000 West Virginia.

00:29:41.000 All right, man.

00:29:42.000 We'll take a look.

00:29:43.000 Thanks, dude.

00:29:43.000 Thanks for calling in.

00:29:44.000 Thank you so much.

00:29:46.000 All right.

00:29:46.000 Next up, we have Larkin.

00:29:49.000 Larkin, you are on the show.

00:29:51.000 Larkin Rose?

00:29:51.000 You must unmute yourself.

00:29:53.000 Howdy.

00:29:56.000 How's it going?

00:29:57.000 I really appreciate you guys having me on.

00:30:00.000 I had a question for Ian because, Ian, I couldn't disagree with you more, but I love you, man, and I respect your openness to change and the same reason why I really have been watching Tim for the past, like, 10 years or so.

00:30:16.000 But for me, I was very much when it came to the abortion question, right?

00:30:21.000 Like, I used to be very libertarian on it and, you know, It's not really my position and who am I to say when life began and I used to be in the military and I worked in intelligence and we used to do kind of like a fun thing on the weekends where we would do like debates and we would force each other to take like the opposite opinion and I was talking to this guy and I heard my own argument coming from his mouth and as I heard it

00:30:51.000 Like, something just clicked in me, and I saw it as, like, and I'm not saying anyone is evil, but like, the argument and the mindset in itself is evil.

00:31:00.000 And it was, you know, like, who can say when life begins?

00:31:04.000 So what does it matter?

00:31:05.000 You know, why not just, you know, like, do you know when life begins?

00:31:09.000 And so my question for you is, is like, for me, my epiphany in that moment was like, If I can't say when life begins, why would I possibly take the chance of killing a child?

00:31:25.000 And, like, being someone that grew up taking care of my little brothers and stuff like that, and being, you know, in the military and stuff, you protect.

00:31:32.000 That's what a man does, you know?

00:31:34.000 And it completely changed, in that moment, it absolutely changed my mind and how I view it.

00:31:41.000 And I was just wondering, does that argument make any sense to you?

00:31:45.000 Well, I don't argue that it's not alive.

00:31:47.000 Like, sperm and egg are both alive.

00:31:50.000 And I just don't think it's a human when it's in zygote form.

00:31:52.000 That's about nine days.

00:31:53.000 Takes a while for it to start to develop into what we consider human.

00:31:56.000 And like, yeah, not all life is sacred.

00:31:58.000 Well, you were in the military.

00:32:01.000 There's a time and a place for life.

00:32:03.000 There's a time and a place for destruction of life, to consume it, to survive.

00:32:05.000 You eat animal.

00:32:06.000 You destroy plants.

00:32:07.000 Whoa! 0.71

00:32:08.000 Hold on here.

00:32:10.000 Let me finish.

00:32:10.000 Sorry.

00:32:11.000 Sorry, I made it a minute.

00:32:11.000 I got you.

00:32:14.000 I'm sorry, what?

00:32:15.000 Oh, I was saying, I understand that argument, it seems a little, kind of, somewhat misplaced.

00:32:21.000 I understand, like, I took fire, friends of mine were buried, you know, and I returned fire.

00:32:28.000 And I never blamed a lot of the people, some of them, that were doing it because, like, they didn't really have a choice, right?

00:32:35.000 And if I was them, I'd be doing the same thing.

00:32:37.000 But it still doesn't mean I wouldn't, there is right and wrong, I'm gonna protect the people around me, and I'll do what I have to do.

00:32:42.000 But, As someone that recently, I never thought I would have kids.

00:32:47.000 I'm 37, I was single, and then I met my wife and I kind of couldn't take the chance to like, have it.

00:32:53.000 To like, just do the jump.

00:32:55.000 And now she's like, the best thing that ever happened to me, I just had to let go of like... And we have a kid that's 5 months old, and I can tell you, every step of the way, there's no freaking question.

00:33:08.000 Like, every step of the way.

00:33:11.000 That, like, this is life.

00:33:13.000 You know what I'm saying?

00:33:13.000 And I understand.

00:33:15.000 We all have our own way of looking at things, and we have our own experiences.

00:33:20.000 For me, if I'm looking at it, like I said, it's just like, why would I take the chance?

00:33:25.000 Even if you'd, like, you just don't think it's life at all.

00:33:29.000 Like, at inception.

00:33:30.000 No, it is alive when it's a sperm and an egg.

00:33:32.000 It's not a human at inception.

00:33:34.000 But is there a chance that it is?

00:33:37.000 And if there is, why would you allow it?

00:33:40.000 I mean, it's a zyko, it's not a human. 1.00

00:33:45.000 I'm very pro-life, and that's why I'm obsessed with revolutionizing our energy grid.

00:33:49.000 People that say they're pro-life, but they don't talk about actually fortifying our electrical system, but the virtue signal about what some woman over there has to do, you want to protect her?

00:33:59.000 You want to protect life?

00:34:00.000 Protect the woman. 0.75

00:34:03.000 What part did you want to respond with?

00:34:06.000 I just have a problem with that because that is just changing the subject.

00:34:11.000 What subject?

00:34:12.000 When you said no, if you're pro-life and you change, you're changing the subject.

00:34:16.000 Yeah, but they don't think it's murder.

00:34:17.000 We talked about this last night for like an hour.

00:34:19.000 No, but the point that I'm making is I have a problem with saying that because you're changing the subject to avoid the conversation.

00:34:24.000 The point that he's making is it's life.

00:34:27.000 And the stuff that you're saying, like when you're like, it's not a zygote, it's not a human life, it's human DNA.

00:34:32.000 Like, I get what you're saying about being like, you know, or I understand why people could be pro-choice and stuff, but I just feel like... Well, let's try this.

00:34:41.000 Ian, what's a human?

00:34:42.000 There's a meme.

00:34:43.000 I'll answer your question, but there's a meme of, protect the baby in the womb, protect it, protect it, protect it, and then as soon as the baby's born, you're on your own, kid.

00:34:49.000 That's a meme about the right-wing conservative movement.

00:34:52.000 That's not real.

00:34:52.000 That's not true.

00:34:53.000 That's a lie from leftists.

00:34:55.000 They don't want social services to protect the single mother. 1.00

00:34:58.000 Social services don't protect families.

00:35:00.000 They cause poverty and fatherlessness.

00:35:02.000 That's the argument that's made.

00:35:03.000 But in the womb.

00:35:04.000 What's a human?

00:35:06.000 The idea that the only solution for helping a baby is for the government to take money from other people and then put kids in state institutions makes no sense.

00:35:14.000 But anyway, define human so we can figure this one out.

00:35:17.000 I'll go with the definition in the dictionary.

00:35:19.000 I'd read it.

00:35:19.000 Look it up and read it if you want.

00:35:21.000 Do you know what it is?

00:35:22.000 I don't know.

00:35:23.000 It's an animal from the hominid.

00:35:24.000 Homo sapien.

00:35:26.000 How technical do you want to get?

00:35:30.000 You said a zygote is not a human, so I'm asking you what you think a human is.

00:35:33.000 It's an evolved hominid. 0.98

00:35:34.000 The most evolved hominid that we know of.

00:35:36.000 A member of the primate genus Homo.

00:35:38.000 Especially a member of the species Homo sapiens.

00:35:40.000 Distinguished from other apes by a large brain and capacity for speech. 0.99

00:35:43.000 A person.

00:35:44.000 Large brain.

00:35:46.000 So, no, those little things in the womb don't have large brains. 1.00

00:35:48.000 Distinguished body.

00:35:48.000 That's what it said.

00:35:48.000 Distinguished body.

00:35:49.000 Compared to the size of its body, Ian.

00:35:51.000 That's not what that says, does it?

00:35:53.000 I mean, what?

00:35:53.000 what? So my question is, like a dog, like a turtle and an egg, isn't a turtle? Because

00:36:05.000 a turtle is defined as like an amphibious reptilian, an aquatic reptilian with two arms,

00:36:14.000 two legs, and it retracts into a shell.

00:36:18.000 So if the turtle is in the egg, it's not actually a turtle, it's something else.

00:36:22.000 If a turtle is in an egg, it's a turtle, because it's a turtle in an egg.

00:36:25.000 If it's a zygote in an egg, it's not a turtle yet.

00:36:29.000 Ian, I feel like you're playing Schrodinger's cat with life.

00:36:31.000 No, I think you're making excuses to justify a nonsensical position.

00:36:34.000 No, I think people are insane if they look at a zygote and say it's a human. 1.00

00:36:36.000 They're fucking insane. 1.00

00:36:36.000 Well, what else would it be? 1.00

00:36:38.000 Like, if you leave it alone, it is definitely going to become a human.

00:36:41.000 So why can't it be a human?

00:36:42.000 A baby born with no arms and no legs is a human.

00:36:44.000 It's not going to be a refrigerator.

00:36:46.000 It might not survive at all.

00:36:47.000 A baby born with no arms and no legs is a human.

00:36:49.000 Yeah, but a baby can't survive outside the womb. 0.92

00:36:51.000 A baby born with no arms and no legs is a human.

00:36:53.000 Without him?

00:36:54.000 It is.

00:36:55.000 But humans have two arms and two legs, and this thing doesn't. 1.00

00:36:58.000 No, I don't think that's part of the definition. 0.98

00:37:00.000 You can have deformities and shit and still be a human. 0.99

00:37:03.000 So, then what defines a human? 0.99

00:37:05.000 Phil just read the definition. 0.84

00:37:07.000 Large brain, hominid species, homosexual. 1.00

00:37:09.000 A baby born with a diminished brain. 0.99

00:37:11.000 Not human?

00:37:12.000 Ian, when you say large brain, I want to point this out.

00:37:16.000 Ian needs to answer this.

00:37:18.000 There have been babies born with diminished brains.

00:37:21.000 If they're human babies born with deformities, then they're human.

00:37:24.000 But there's no brain.

00:37:24.000 They're probably still human, like, partway through.

00:37:27.000 I believe they become human at some point along the gestation process.

00:37:30.000 But if it doesn't have a large brain, you're saying it's not human?

00:37:32.000 When do you think they start to feel pain?

00:37:33.000 If it doesn't have a large brain, you think it's not human?

00:37:34.000 I don't know, I'd have to look into the science.

00:37:36.000 Is that what you're saying?

00:37:37.000 No.

00:37:38.000 But you just said a human is defined as having a large brain, right?

00:37:40.000 Yeah, it's part of Phil's definition.

00:37:43.000 Okay, so if a baby is born but it does not have a brain, is it human?

00:37:47.000 If it has no brain, it's not a human.

00:37:50.000 It's not a human. 1.00

00:37:50.000 It's a husk of a meat sack if it has no brain. 1.00

00:37:52.000 These things exist, you know, right? 0.98

00:37:54.000 There are babies that are born without brains.

00:37:56.000 Yeah, I would not consider that a human, dude.

00:37:57.000 And they have a cerebellum, which regulates the involuntary processes.

00:38:01.000 So then, the question then becomes, do you think, so the question then becomes, do you think the physical mass of the brain or the conscious entity defines a human?

00:38:10.000 I think both.

00:38:12.000 And if, so if someone's body dies, they're no longer a human.

00:38:15.000 So here's the issue.

00:38:18.000 The issue I take is not whether or not you're right or wrong, it's that you're not making any logic at all.

00:38:23.000 Pull us a picture of a zygote.

00:38:25.000 And I'll explain.

00:38:25.000 Do that for me.

00:38:26.000 A baby born with nothing but a cerebellum can regulate its involuntary functions.

00:38:31.000 It can breathe, and it has a heartbeat, and its eyes move around.

00:38:34.000 But it doesn't have higher functions.

00:38:36.000 You say that's clearly not a human.

00:38:37.000 You said no brain.

00:38:39.000 It's not a baby born with a cerebellum.

00:38:41.000 That's part of the brain.

00:38:42.000 That means they have a brain.

00:38:43.000 So I did say babies with a cerebellum can regulate.

00:38:46.000 So, okay, so that is a human then?

00:38:49.000 Yeah, sounds like it, yeah.

00:38:50.000 So it has a small, so it's not a large brain though?

00:38:54.000 But you said a large brain.

00:38:55.000 That's what Phil read.

00:38:56.000 Okay, so do you agree it's a large brain or just some component of the brain?

00:38:59.000 I mean, I think his point of it being relative to body mass, is that what you were... Well, the point is, like, when it says large brain, like, your brain is not large compared to the sun.

00:39:08.000 And that was the comparison you made earlier.

00:39:10.000 Yeah, but those zygotes don't have brains. 1.00

00:39:11.000 No, but it's not taught... The zygotes are... They're building the brain. 0.99

00:39:15.000 It's a diploid self-construction.

00:39:16.000 It is building the brain.

00:39:18.000 It is becoming a human... It is becoming a person.

00:39:20.000 But so is the sperm before it impregnates the egg. 1.00

00:39:22.000 Like, what's the fucking... 0.99

00:39:24.000 How esoteric do you want to get? 0.99

00:39:26.000 It's DNA, man.

00:39:27.000 That's a good way to define it.

00:39:30.000 So as soon as the sperm fertilizes the egg, that's new DNA, independent from the DNA from the father and the mother.

00:39:40.000 That's a human being.

00:39:41.000 That's a new human being.

00:39:43.000 That's a leap of logic to say that it's mother DNA, father DNA, therefore it's a human.

00:39:49.000 No, no, no, no.

00:39:51.000 Mother DNA, father DNA, third, new DNA.

00:39:55.000 Yes, that doesn't mean it's human.

00:39:56.000 That means it's human.

00:39:58.000 That's human DNA! 1.00

00:39:59.000 Can I just say that I hate this fucking debate so much. 1.00

00:40:03.000 Here's the issue. 0.99

00:40:03.000 There's a very simple and clear definition of human. 0.99

00:40:08.000 And it pertains to what Phil described.

00:40:10.000 A unique set of DNA of the hominid, whatever you want to call it, homo sapien order.

00:40:17.000 Your definition makes no sense.

00:40:19.000 And I'm not saying you are wrong about abortion, I'm saying, when you say, a zygote is not a human, and I say, what's a human?

00:40:25.000 You say, I don't know! 0.99

00:40:27.000 I go, okay, then how the fuck are you defining zygote? 1.00

00:40:28.000 Well, a human has a brain, it has a fucking heart, it has fingers. 0.99

00:40:31.000 So, if a human is born with no brain, and they're, okay. 0.99

00:40:35.000 I already answered this question, it's not human if it doesn't have a brain, dude.

00:40:38.000 So then, so then what makes a human who is a full adult?

00:40:41.000 Consciousness.

00:40:42.000 Okay, so when someone goes into coma, they're not human anymore.

00:40:46.000 Yes, they're human and in a coma.

00:40:48.000 But they don't have a brain and no consciousness! 1.00

00:40:49.000 If they have no brain, then they're no longer fucking human. 1.00

00:40:52.000 What about when you go to sleep and you're not conscious? 1.00

00:40:54.000 You're still a human.

00:40:55.000 You're a sleeping human.

00:40:56.000 But you just said that if you don't have consciousness, that's part of the definition of being human.

00:41:01.000 Okay.

00:41:02.000 There are babies born with what they describe as not having a brain.

00:41:06.000 And it has a brain stem which can regulate involuntary functions.

00:41:11.000 You are saying that is not human.

00:41:14.000 If it has a brain, cerebellum.

00:41:16.000 Is that your point?

00:41:17.000 Talking about brainstem cerebellum?

00:41:18.000 A brainstem, not a brain.

00:41:19.000 Like, what do they have?

00:41:20.000 You pull it up.

00:41:21.000 Let's define it.

00:41:22.000 Let's look into it. 0.99

00:41:24.000 I fucking hate this debate so bad. 0.99

00:41:25.000 Me too, man. 1.00

00:41:26.000 People, they look at a fucking die plate cell and they're like, that's a human! 1.00

00:41:29.000 I'm like, what in the fuck world has this come to? 1.00

00:41:31.000 Anencephaly. 0.99

00:41:32.000 A serious birth defect in which a baby is born without parts of the brain installed.

00:41:35.000 Okay, they still have some brain.

00:41:36.000 That's still human. 1.00

00:41:37.000 If you have no brain, you're dead. 1.00

00:41:39.000 You're not! 1.00

00:41:40.000 There are many babies that are born- Maybe they can pump blood through a piece of meat, but what the fuck? 0.99

00:41:43.000 Okay, I'll just simplify this and we'll wrap it up. 0.99

00:41:45.000 Yeah, humans are still humans.

00:41:47.000 Phil has a very simple definition.

00:41:49.000 A new set of DNA of the genus whatever, homo sapien, etc.

00:41:53.000 It's human DNA.

00:41:55.000 Okay, and there is a living structure that is growing.

00:41:57.000 Ian, your definition is just a bunch of random hodgepodge that doesn't make any sense.

00:42:00.000 Dude, high intelligence, bipedalism, hairlessness. 1.00

00:42:03.000 These zygotes don't have that shit. 1.00

00:42:05.000 Neither do people with alopecia. 1.00

00:42:09.000 Neither do people with serious birth defects.

00:42:12.000 You cannot define human based on anomalous developments within the human race, and you cannot define human based on chosen characteristics that you deem worthy.

00:42:20.000 I'm pulling from the definition.

00:42:21.000 Cognitive skills that enable them to thrive.

00:42:23.000 Cognitive skills.

00:42:24.000 Psychics don't have those yet. 1.00

00:42:26.000 I mean, it's a developing human that will have all of those things.

00:42:31.000 We already talked about chimeras. 0.98

00:42:32.000 You can take a male and a female and fucking tweak the genes in her little zygote and turn it into a non-human. 1.00

00:42:38.000 If you can kill a zygote, and Ian, the problem with your worldview is that if you can kill a zygote, you can kill a retard. 1.00

00:42:45.000 That's a horrible thing to say. 1.00

00:42:46.000 Yeah, well, that's your fucking belief. 1.00

00:42:47.000 No, it's not. 1.00

00:42:48.000 Yes, it is.

00:42:49.000 No, it's not.

00:42:49.000 You sit here and said that a baby born with encephalitis is not a human.

00:42:53.000 No, you said a baby born without a brain.

00:42:55.000 Ian, you're qualifying who gets to You're making qualifiers as to who is and is not a human, and you're still talking about human beings, human DNA, human children.

00:43:09.000 All of the things that you're talking about come from humans.

00:43:12.000 They're all biological matter that comes from human beings.

00:43:16.000 They all have chromosomes.

00:43:18.000 They all have DNA.

00:43:19.000 They're all things that come from humans.

00:43:22.000 Why don't you all just be a little more responsible with who you have sex with?

00:43:28.000 The issue that I'm looking to answer is the question of human rights and when does the government have the right to determine someone does or does not have rights.

00:43:36.000 So that's why we need to have a very clear set definition.

00:43:40.000 This is not an argument about abortion in any capacity.

00:43:42.000 Life begins at conception.

00:43:43.000 That's when a unique set of human DNA is created and begins to grow. 0.96

00:43:47.000 It doesn't matter if you can think, feel, smell, fart, shit, or otherwise, because there are some people who can't, some people who can. 0.76

00:43:54.000 There are some people who can jump real high, some people who can't jump. 1.00

00:43:56.000 Some people are born and they're fucking retarded, some people are super smart, some people have no legs, some people have heads. 1.00

00:44:00.000 We don't define what grants you human rights based on if you were born with the right amount of arms, eyes, ears, face, or otherwise. 0.99

00:44:07.000 So, what I say is, Looking at the issue of abortion, because it's where it arises, my position is simple.

00:44:14.000 The government does not have the right to mandate one person provide their body to another.

00:44:18.000 End of story.

00:44:19.000 Now, in the event that a woman grants a man the right to inseminate her, resulting in another human now being attached to her body, that was a choice she made to allow that, and now she is obligated to not terminate because she welcomed that in.

00:44:34.000 In the instance of rape, I believe the government has no authority to mandate a woman carry the baby. 0.83

00:44:39.000 Even though the baby is a unique human life that does have human rights, as defined by 30 states, which, if you kill the woman and the baby dies, it's a double homicide.

00:44:47.000 To say something like, whether you're smart, or have a brain, or have arms, or are bipedal, that's what makes you human, is the justification for eugenics and genocide. 0.91

00:44:58.000 Yeah, that's a big problem is when you're when you're making a qualifier about this person This isn't a person and that is a person and this this you know entity doesn't qualify because they don't have these arbitrary Features or whatever they don't like all of that stuff.

00:45:14.000 That's the same kind of idea that justified Killing off thousands and or tens of thousands or hundreds of thousands of people in Nazi Germany.

00:45:22.000 It's it's it is saying that these entities do not I'm not gonna say you're wrong.

00:45:30.000 And once you start doing that is like, well, you know, the zygotes don't,

00:45:33.000 and then the people that are mentally deficient don't, and then the people that are blah, blah, blah, 0.84

00:45:37.000 that's all eugenics. 0.96

00:45:39.000 It's all, it all leads down to a path of devaluing human life, all of it.

00:45:45.000 I'm not gonna say you're wrong.

00:45:47.000 I don't know if you're right or if you're wrong, but killing a zygote that early in the process of pregnancy,

00:45:53.000 two days, a day after the impregnation is vastly different than eugenics.

00:46:00.000 No, it's not.

00:46:01.000 I mean, if a woman wants to terminate a one-day-old zygote, Look, I'm pro-choice up to the end of the first trimester, but my issue right now is the way you're articulating it.

00:46:12.000 Because like I said, I'm pro-choice up to the end of the first trimester.

00:46:18.000 I think that the fetus is not cognizant yet, it doesn't experience the way that a developed human being experiences.

00:46:29.000 The fetus is not viable at like, you know, 10 weeks or whatever.

00:46:33.000 So that's where you can have a reasonable, in my opinion, where you can reasonably say this is moral to end the term.

00:46:39.000 We definitely got to get these other callers.

00:46:41.000 So Larkin, thanks for calling in. 0.98

00:46:43.000 Oh shit, we got a call out this whole time, I forgot. 0.98

00:46:46.000 Thanks for getting me out of it. 0.99

00:46:48.000 One thing, I do homesteading and I would look into miniature cattle,

00:46:52.000 because 40% of the feed you get 70% of the beef, and instead of 7 gallons a day, you get about a gallon,

00:46:57.000 gallon and a half.

00:46:58.000 Cool.

00:47:00.000 Thanks for calling in.

00:47:01.000 See you, man.

00:47:01.000 It's far more manageable.

00:47:02.000 Now for everybody else has been patiently waiting.

00:47:05.000 We have Mion Plan B. Welcome to the show.

00:47:07.000 Fitting.

00:47:08.000 Great.

00:47:08.000 Here we go.

00:47:09.000 Hey guys, thanks for having me on.

00:47:11.000 Uh, Mion, I'm very glad that your mother was pro-life.

00:47:17.000 It's good to have you on the planet, buddy.

00:47:19.000 She's pro-choice.

00:47:20.000 My question is for the panel, and I'm in emerging technologies and wanted to ask what everybody thought about the idea of if we were able to get off an oil economy into something else, something other than electric, how do you think that would change the political equation?

00:47:42.000 But what do you mean, something other than electric?

00:47:45.000 Like steam-powered cars?

00:47:46.000 Well, like, for instance, no, um, the project I'm working on would be the first hydrocarbon that could go toe-to-toe with electric cars in California.

00:47:57.000 Oh, okay, like an alternate fuel.

00:47:58.000 Something similar to, like, Porsche.

00:48:00.000 Yeah, like the Porsche's e-fuel would be similar to it.

00:48:03.000 If we could make an engine that could run gasoline and hydrogen.

00:48:06.000 Did he bring up getting off the OPEC dollar, too, is that what he said?

00:48:11.000 Well, I'm thinking in terms of the subject line of the game of money, because they were talking about the petrodollar.

00:48:19.000 Yeah, I thought he brought up the petrodollar in the beginning.

00:48:22.000 Yeah, I mean, that'd be really interesting.

00:48:23.000 I think it's probably one of the reasons why the U.S.

00:48:26.000 does not want alternate forms of energy because of the petrodollar.

00:48:28.000 The LPEC, yeah.

00:48:30.000 I'm working with an economist on this for my campaign who's come up with this Great scheme of he's he's mapped it all out.

00:48:37.000 It would only take 40 Gen 4 Reactors to power the entire country nuclear reactor.

00:48:44.000 Yeah.

00:48:44.000 Wow small.

00:48:45.000 They're very safe They have a way to burn all the waste very easily and actually turn it back in Is he talking thorium or is he talking?

00:48:53.000 I think I think it's plutonium but anyways, he's come up with a way something that he calls the kilowatt dollar and And essentially the way this would work is we'd be making, first of all our energy would be pennies on the dollar, but this energy would be so abundant that we could actually put them in batteries and sell battery banks to other countries and our dollar would be backed off that, what he calls a kilowatt dollar.

00:49:19.000 Those nuclear waste batteries are pretty cool.

00:49:21.000 Right, but the problem is the storage.

00:49:23.000 When it comes to vehicles you can't get the energy density high enough.

00:49:27.000 Right, in a vehicle.

00:49:28.000 Solid state batteries?

00:49:32.000 Actually, mechanical storage is probably one of the better options.

00:49:35.000 For instance, the fuel I'm working on would be a green fuel that would be three to five times more efficient than gas or diesel with a similar energy density.

00:49:46.000 Have you guys seen air batteries?

00:49:47.000 I've seen them at airports and train stations.

00:49:56.000 How do they work?

00:49:59.000 You compress air into a liquid and then you can release it later to spin a turbine.

00:50:04.000 Oh, it just evaporates as soon as you expose it to the pressure density?

00:50:08.000 As soon as you release the valve, the pressure forces the air out at a slow rate.

00:50:15.000 Does it just take a lot of energy to compress it?

00:50:17.000 It takes, uh, so the idea is that they would use solar power or some, uh, uh, I forgot what they called it, but there's ways to actually manipulate atmospheric energy to store the energy, to induce the compression, and then store liquid air.

00:50:34.000 And then they use the release of liquid air as it rapidly cools.

00:50:38.000 I think that's what it is.

00:50:40.000 It rapidly cools as the gas is being released, which spins a turbine.

00:50:44.000 Causes, you know, another effect that they, like, they found a way to, there's like a really great little mini video I watched explaining how they do air compression batteries.

00:50:51.000 That pressure change probably generates heat, too.

00:50:53.000 At least a little bit.

00:50:54.000 The pressure change absorbs heat.

00:50:56.000 Oh, does it?

00:50:57.000 The liquefied air has to absorb ambient energy.

00:51:00.000 The heat is taken care of when you compress it.

00:51:02.000 Yeah.

00:51:03.000 Yeah, right, right, that's what it is.

00:51:04.000 When it's being compressed, the heat comes out.

00:51:06.000 They use that heat for one process.

00:51:07.000 Yeah, it's a crazy, crazy way to store energy, but it's brilliant.

00:51:11.000 Question for you, me on plan B.

00:51:12.000 Oh, I got it.

00:51:13.000 I remember.

00:51:14.000 They were talking about how to store energy for solar.

00:51:17.000 And they said what would happen is that if the grid was ever at peak capacity, excess solar would compress air into liquid air tanks.

00:51:26.000 Did you see the tweet that I pinned on my Twitter profile?

00:51:30.000 It's James Tour from Rice University talking about how they're converting, I think it's methane, into hydrogen fuel.

00:51:36.000 Unfortunately, Unfortunately, unless your Twitter comes across my Gmail, I don't see it.

00:51:43.000 I tried to talk to you about gravity about two years ago.

00:51:47.000 Yeah, check out James tours breakthrough with hydrogen fuel because they're able to flash like, like carbon based like plastics and stuff and get Oh, I Yeah, and the stuff that I've been working on, they've had viable hydrogen cells ready to go.

00:52:02.000 Yeah, but the people that had held the patterns would not work with the Big three.

00:52:09.000 My mom's a true investor.

00:52:17.000 We got to jump to these other callers.

00:52:18.000 Is there anything else you wanted to wrap up on?

00:52:20.000 Thanks for your time guys.

00:52:22.000 We already talked about pizza, so I ain't worried.

00:52:28.000 Yeah, Giordano's or Gino's.

00:52:31.000 Oh, I've never had either one.

00:52:33.000 Patrick from Ohio.

00:52:35.000 Chicago deep dish.

00:52:35.000 Oh, come on.

00:52:37.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:52:37.000 It's so much cheese.

00:52:38.000 Oh, you know, I did have Gino's while I was there in Chicago.

00:52:40.000 That's good.

00:52:41.000 Right.

00:52:41.000 There you go.

00:52:42.000 Patrick, what's up?

00:52:44.000 How are you guys doing?

00:52:44.000 Nothing much.

00:52:45.000 Pretty good.

00:52:46.000 Chilling.

00:52:47.000 Thanks for taking my question.

00:52:48.000 Absolutely.

00:52:50.000 For Joshua Smith, I wanted to talk about his candidacy for libertarian president.

00:52:57.000 I typically vote Libertarian, and in 2016, my 90-year-old grandmother and myself also voted for Gary Johnson.

00:53:05.000 So we had a span of quite a few years between the 30-some-odd-old me and my 90-year-old grandmother.

00:53:13.000 So what's your strategy to unite these generations and gain their votes to break that 5% target?

00:53:18.000 Quick question.

00:53:19.000 Well, I think that we brought it up in the original show, but we've got to fight the culture war.

00:53:23.000 I think it's really, really important that we're a brazen, brash, brave, principled campaign and not one that just kind of capitulates on principle to try and win over the Republicans and Democrats.

00:53:38.000 I think, unfortunately, Like I said in my campaign video at the top of my Twitter if you check it out.

00:53:45.000 A very large percentage of people in the United States did not vote for a presidential candidate in 2020 or 2016.

00:53:55.000 We're talking one year it was more than half, one year it was around half.

00:54:00.000 And we had to find a way to ignite those people, because we're not going to get the sycophants from the Republicans.

00:54:05.000 Yeah, we're not going to get the sycophants from the Republicans and the Democrats.

00:54:08.000 So really, you know, I think that five is a low, I think for me it's a low goal.

00:54:13.000 I want ten.

00:54:14.000 But I think 5 is an attainable goal for the Libertarian.

00:54:16.000 Like I said, it changes the political landscape in the United States.

00:54:19.000 How do you convince Democrats, or maybe moderate Democrats, to vote Libertarian?

00:54:24.000 You don't.

00:54:25.000 You think there's no way?

00:54:26.000 You think it's an absolute losing battle?

00:54:28.000 They'll never vote Libertarian.

00:54:29.000 Yeah, what do you mean?

00:54:30.000 I think that you gotta try somehow. 0.98

00:54:32.000 Well, that's what Chase Oliver is doing right now, the other candidate from Atlanta who's all about like, oh yeah, no, dude, it's totally fine to bring your kids to these gay men shaking their butts in the street stuff. 0.94

00:54:43.000 Wait, the other Libertarian candidate is doing that? 0.95

00:54:45.000 Yeah. 1.00

00:54:46.000 Holy fuck. 1.00

00:54:47.000 There are progressives in the Libertarian Party. 1.00

00:54:49.000 Spike also supported it when he was running for Vice President.

00:54:52.000 He has recanted though because there was stuff that he wasn't aware of.

00:54:57.000 Jorgen Cern said it's not enough to not be racist when we must be.

00:55:02.000 And I thought it was really funny the Libertarian Party telling me what I must do.

00:55:05.000 No, no, I'll say this.

00:55:07.000 I'm not going after the Democrats because, listen, the Democrats would put all Libertarians up against the wall if they got the opportunity. 0.69

00:55:13.000 Hands down.

00:55:15.000 100%. 1.00

00:55:15.000 I'm not a stupid Libertarian. 1.00

00:55:17.000 I'm not an idealistic Libertarian. 0.99

00:55:19.000 I know who our base is.

00:55:21.000 And I'm going after our base.

00:55:22.000 I'm trying to get them fired up on the ideas of Ron Paul, basically.

00:55:26.000 It's the Ron Paul revolution and I'm trying to revive it.

00:55:28.000 That's really what it is.

00:55:29.000 And if you're not going to do that, don't run as a Libertarian.

00:55:32.000 Run on.

00:55:32.000 Did you want to add any more, Patrick?

00:55:35.000 No, I just wanted to shout out that this Discord community is great, Tim.

00:55:37.000 Thank you so much for getting this together.

00:55:39.000 We've had so many great conversations, and we're setting up so many events, and we're getting engagement left and right.

00:55:44.000 Right on.

00:55:45.000 So just remember, please check out the events, and try to participate in some of the After Dark and other shows.

00:55:51.000 There's a lot of people out here with great opinions.

00:55:54.000 Right on, man.

00:55:54.000 Thanks for calling in.

00:55:55.000 Hardcore.

00:55:57.000 All right, and last but not least, we got Rogue.

00:56:00.000 Roguez350, what up?

00:56:03.000 You're muted, Rogue.

00:56:04.000 Hello, Rogue.

00:56:05.000 You're in stealth.

00:56:07.000 You have to unmute your mic.

00:56:09.000 Rogue must have fallen asleep.

00:56:10.000 You took too long.

00:56:10.000 Oh, there you go.

00:56:11.000 Can you hear me?

00:56:13.000 Yes, sir.

00:56:15.000 Okay, my emoji disappeared, so I thought I was off.

00:56:19.000 Ruh-roh. 0.99

00:56:19.000 Thanks for taking my call, guys. 0.99

00:56:22.000 Absolutely.

00:56:23.000 I'll try and make it quick.

00:56:25.000 So, I grew up thinking we should allow everybody to do what they're gonna do You know, we have freedom.

00:56:33.000 Allow them to do what they want to make their lives happy.

00:56:37.000 But it's gotten to the point where I think this country is pushing that so far that our morals are degrading to the point where it's pushing our society in a negative direction.

00:56:54.000 Where do we draw the line between allowing people to have freedom But also, you know, making them think of things that should cause a little bit of shame so that we keep our societal fabric together.

00:57:13.000 That's just how we keep on without.

00:57:16.000 Going into tyranny.

00:57:17.000 Well, that's just it.

00:57:18.000 It's freedom plus shame.

00:57:20.000 As Ron Paul said, abortion should not be illegal, it should be unthinkable.

00:57:24.000 So we can tell people you can do what you want, but if people find out, then you might as well leave town because no one's going to want to work with you or be near you or be around you.

00:57:32.000 And that's the cultural element of this.

00:57:35.000 The fact is our culture has been destroyed and completely evaporated.

00:57:40.000 That's why you have laws. 0.52

00:57:43.000 You wouldn't need laws if everyone agreed on the basic premise and rules of their civilization, but society gets really, really big, culture breaks down, and then people are forced into living next to each other because there's an overarching monopoly on violence that tells them what they can and can't do. 0.95

00:57:57.000 We gotta stop using the fucking term normalize.

00:58:00.000 Legitimately, please stop using that term. 0.98

00:58:03.000 We're not just in a culture war, we're also in a moral war.

00:58:06.000 Yeah.

00:58:07.000 100%.

00:58:08.000 And when we're like, oh, well, we just need to normalize sex work. 1.00

00:58:11.000 No, the fuck we don't. 1.00

00:58:13.000 There's no reason for it to be normalized. 0.99

00:58:14.000 There's a reason why it's not normal.

00:58:16.000 And here's the thing.

00:58:19.000 The only reason people advocate for normalizing sex work is because they want to do sex work.

00:58:23.000 Yeah, of course.

00:58:24.000 Or watch it.

00:58:26.000 Or they want an agent.

00:58:27.000 But if you eliminate sex work from the economy, then no one's advocating for it.

00:58:32.000 People who are engaged in sex work should have other means of generating income.

00:58:36.000 Yes.

00:58:36.000 It's a cultural problem.

00:58:38.000 OnlyFans.

00:58:39.000 Yeah, stop saying OnlyFans. 0.99

00:58:41.000 Stop fucking saying normalize. 1.00

00:58:42.000 Stop normalizing shit. 1.00

00:58:43.000 We don't have to normalize shit that's not supposed to be normal. 1.00

00:58:46.000 It can be legal, but shame the fuck out of them. 0.99

00:58:49.000 What about OnlyFans? 0.99

00:58:50.000 Shame them. 0.54

00:58:51.000 I shame every OnlyFans girl that comes across me. 1.00

00:58:53.000 Did you see my tweet?

00:58:54.000 Uh, was it about the CEO making a million a day?

00:58:56.000 Oh yeah.

00:58:57.000 Yeah, I wanted to talk about that because I didn't agree with it.

00:59:00.000 Well, so what really happened was I said to Fresh and Fit, you guys are complaining about women sleeping around tons of guys.

00:59:07.000 If you have a problem with it, then start shaming them.

00:59:09.000 Right.

00:59:10.000 But what happens is the leftists, because they're grifters, took the clip out of context, so it's me just saying, a guy pulls up in a Bugatti, he should look to the window and say, what's your body count? 1.00

00:59:20.000 And if she says, you know, what the fuck, fuck you, he says, fuck, I don't wanna hone my car. 1.00

00:59:24.000 Oh, okay. 1.00

00:59:24.000 What I actually said was, why, I said, I literally said, you guys, why don't you do that? 1.00

00:59:29.000 They were like, women be sleeping with 50 guys, so guys gotta be prepared and sleep with 50 women. 0.87

00:59:34.000 And then I said, well, why don't you, as high value men, just shame the women then? 0.98

00:59:38.000 Right.

00:59:38.000 If that's your argument.

00:59:39.000 And they turned it into, so my response to them, because they're pieces of shit, was, all these, you know, people are saying, are mad at me for saying that you should slut shame, slut shame sluts. 1.00

00:59:48.000 Why the fuck would I care what these sluts think? 1.00

00:59:50.000 Proving a point. 1.00

00:59:51.000 They got so fucking angry about being called sluts. 1.00

00:59:54.000 One woman, she was like, Tim Paul's got a small dick! 1.00

00:59:56.000 And it's like, lady, clearly you're upset. 1.00

01:00:00.000 That you're a slut. 1.00

01:00:01.000 This is the issue. 1.00

01:00:04.000 If you come to me and you said, Tim, you're fucking bald. 0.99

01:00:08.000 I go, yes, that's true, I am. 0.99

01:00:10.000 I wear a beanie. 1.00

01:00:10.000 And they're gonna be like, yeah, well, you got nasty-ass fucked-up crooked teeth. 1.00

01:00:13.000 I'll be like, yeah, they've been crooked my whole life. 1.00

01:00:15.000 I'm actually genetically missing a tooth. 1.00

01:00:16.000 And they'll be like, well, fuck you! 1.00

01:00:19.000 I'm like, bro, you're not making me mad by saying things I know, but... 1.00

01:00:23.000 When you say women are sluts and they get really, really angry, it's because deep down there is shame in being a slut. 1.00

01:00:29.000 And they know it! 1.00

01:00:30.000 It's not that deep down.

01:00:31.000 That's why the anger comes out so easily.

01:00:33.000 Very easily.

01:00:34.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:00:35.000 It's because... I don't want to put shame back into the... Just do it!

01:00:39.000 Just shame people! 0.99

01:00:41.000 It's the same thing with being fat.

01:00:43.000 It's the same thing with morbid obesity.

01:00:45.000 There is a problem we all recognize with overt promiscuity, we can easily simplify, STDs, and overeating.

01:00:54.000 You die.

01:00:55.000 You get cancer, you get heart problems, you get high cholesterol, you die.

01:00:58.000 So people know they're doing something bad, but it feels good! 0.99

01:01:04.000 And you say, I am not going to sit here and compliment you as you fuck your life up and they get angry about it. 0.96

01:01:11.000 But when you shame and you want to introduce shame into our culture, you want to do it subversively because if it's an angry guy yelling at people, you're bad, you're wrong, they're going to reject it and get angry. 0.99

01:01:19.000 But if you put it in a movie where the villain has that ass attribute, you realize little kids will see it and they'll be like, I don't want to be like that. 0.98

01:01:27.000 But also tell your fat friends they're fat. 0.97

01:01:29.000 Shouldn't- isn't it better to articulate why it's a bad idea than to try to be subversive?

01:01:35.000 Because like subversive implies not letting people know what you're doing.

01:01:38.000 Ian's only wrong on the first half.

01:01:39.000 It's true about our cultural- our films, our music, and our movies are influencing children.

01:01:44.000 Subversively, that's what I meant. 0.82

01:01:45.000 And it is more effective to have a villain be like, I'm going to destroy the world and have tons of sex while 0.99

01:01:51.000 eating Krispy Kremes! 0.98

01:01:53.000 I don't want to be like that.

01:01:54.000 That's true. 1.00

01:01:54.000 But also, I think it is good to literally say something like, hey, I'm not interested in working with you because you're a prostitute. 1.00

01:02:03.000 By all means, you go do your thing and live how you want to live. 0.99

01:02:06.000 I will have no part in it. 0.97

01:02:08.000 Personally, I have way, way more of a problem with the sloots than with prostitutes. 1.00

01:02:13.000 If you're just giving it away and you're banging dudes, those are the ones that are spreading diseases. 1.00

01:02:20.000 Those are the ones that are out there ruining people's lives. 0.98

01:02:23.000 If you're actually a sex worker, do your thing, get your bag. 1.00

01:02:25.000 If you're a sloot, just tossing it around, then you should probably put a dime in between your knees and keep it. 1.00

01:02:32.000 But did you always feel like that as a rock star? 1.00

01:02:34.000 I don't know a lot about you personally, you don't have to talk about it, but did you fuck tons of chicks? 1.00

01:02:37.000 Were you just like, whatever, let's just bang for 20 years? 0.99

01:02:40.000 So there was a time in my life when I was more adventurous?

01:02:46.000 Answer the question, Phil, come on, we know.

01:02:48.000 No one's going to believe that a rock star is passing it up. 0.99

01:02:53.000 There's a reason that I'm not big on the slut shaming and giving sex workers trash and blah blah blah. 1.00

01:03:00.000 Because I am in no position to actually judge someone else. 0.98

01:03:06.000 My life up until I quit drinking Was different.

01:03:10.000 So I'm in no position to be like, oh, that person's bad or blah, blah, blah, or cast judgment on someone.

01:03:14.000 Do your thing.

01:03:15.000 It is a good idea to practice monogamy and to try to date with intent.

01:03:22.000 Like if you're dating, it's a good idea to date with intent.

01:03:25.000 Like I get it.

01:03:26.000 There are people that are young that are going to go out and and, you know, they think it's a good idea to go party and stuff.

01:03:31.000 And fair enough, if you want, fine.

01:03:33.000 I don't think it's a problem, but I think that it's something that we should not And we should not, as a society, be like, this is how you want to live your life.

01:03:41.000 It is a problem.

01:03:42.000 As society... And, you know, like, growing up in Chicago... 0.99

01:03:47.000 My upbringing was fucking sex-positive liberal across the board. 0.99

01:03:51.000 Everyone's banging each other. 1.00

01:03:53.000 Everyone's doing crazy-ass shit. 1.00

01:03:54.000 Tons of drugs all over the place. 1.00

01:03:55.000 Obama was smoking crack and having gay sex. 1.00

01:03:57.000 Exactly! 1.00

01:03:58.000 And it's a problem that it got to this point where young people are like, it's totally fine if we go out and do this because now in Brooklyn you have super chlamydia.

01:04:07.000 Have you guys heard about super chlamydia?

01:04:08.000 No.

01:04:08.000 Can't get rid of it.

01:04:10.000 Yeah, incurable. 0.99

01:04:11.000 Onion, garlic, red wine, you're gonna have to do some old school shit. 0.99

01:04:14.000 You're gonna have to go to the old school. 0.98

01:04:16.000 Like apparently the antibiotics aren't working anymore.

01:04:18.000 Because what's happening is, these people in Williamsburg, in Brooklyn, they'll have sex, get it, spread it to somebody else. 1.00

01:04:26.000 Then one guy goes, fuck, my dick hurts. 1.00

01:04:28.000 He goes to the doctor and the doctor says, take this medication, don't have sex, Until you've completely finished it, and then you come back and get tested again to make sure it's gone. 1.00

01:04:38.000 And they go, you got it, doc!

01:04:40.000 And then once they got halfway through whatever their bottle or whatever their prescription is, they start banging again, and now it's a more resistant strain that's spreading. 0.98

01:04:47.000 It's literally super fucking chlamydia spreading. 0.98

01:04:49.000 That's a problem. 0.98

01:04:51.000 This guy James Tuer, the scientist, this graphene scientist, talks about that.

01:04:54.000 He talks about his fear of antibiotic-resistant viruses as one of the biggest threats to humanity.

01:05:00.000 Well, we already have bacterias that are I'm gonna have to put a hard stop in.

01:05:04.000 Rogue, did you want to do any final thoughts because we're way over?

01:05:06.000 I don't know if you're a fan of or know much about them, but if you would check out 21 Pilots lore from their second album on.

01:05:10.000 up in Rogue, did you want to do any final thoughts because we're way over?

01:05:32.000 It's fairly relevant to our times today.

01:05:36.000 It's called Lower?

01:05:37.000 I know what he's talking about.

01:05:38.000 I can remind you later.

01:05:42.000 It's very relevant to everything that's going on today.

01:05:46.000 And they've been writing this for 10 years.

01:05:49.000 Awesome.

01:05:50.000 Right on, man.

01:05:51.000 Thanks for calling in.

01:05:52.000 Thanks for all, guys.

01:05:55.000 All right.

01:05:56.000 That was a fun one, huh?

01:05:58.000 Josh, thanks for hanging out.

01:05:59.000 It's been a blast.

01:05:59.000 Yeah, of course, man.

01:06:00.000 I had a good time, too.

01:06:01.000 I didn't tell people about my show earlier, but I do have a show called Break the Cycle with Joshua Smith, if anybody ever wants to check it out.

01:06:07.000 We're live on Thursday evenings.

01:06:09.000 When will we know if you're the candidate?

01:06:11.000 May of next year is our nominating convention.

01:06:16.000 I've got a lot of time.

01:06:17.000 Where do people see your show?

01:06:19.000 On YouTube.

01:06:20.000 If you look up youtube.com backslash fight the death spots it'll take you right to my show.

01:06:24.000 But we're also on Rumble and Odyssey and BitChute and some other ones too.

01:06:32.000 Right on, man.

01:06:33.000 Thanks for hanging out.

01:06:33.000 It's been a blast.

01:06:34.000 No, I had a blast.

01:06:34.000 Thanks for having me.

01:06:35.000 And thank you guys for being members and keeping this thing going.

01:06:38.000 And it's so cool what you guys are doing in the Discord server and building it up and making a community.

01:06:43.000 It's the coolest show ever.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - September 03, 2023

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