Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - September 17, 2023


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In this episode of Sunday Uncensored, we discuss the controversial topic of transgender students in public school, and whether or not they should be allowed to attend public school. We also discuss the growing number of conservative parents who are raising their kids the same way as their liberal friends.

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00:00:01.000 Welcome to our special weekend show, Sunday Uncensored.
00:00:04.000 Every week we produce four uncensored episodes of the TimCast IRL podcast exclusively at TimCast.com, and we're going to bring you the most important for our weekend show.
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00:00:20.000 Now, enjoy the show.
00:00:22.000 I'm going to be doing a little bit of a commentary on the stream.
00:00:29.000 I'm going to be doing a little bit of a commentary on the stream.
00:00:32.000 So, I don't know what the deal is, but it's taking a long time for Rumble to pick up our stream over the past couple
00:00:40.000 It's really annoying.
00:00:40.000 of days.
00:00:41.000 So what happens is when we start the live stream, we actually can't see if we're live or not for a long time.
00:00:48.000 And so that means, like, it's weird.
00:00:51.000 Well, we just waited like three or four minutes with the stream going, like, and nothing was responding.
00:00:55.000 So, I don't know, whatever.
00:00:57.000 It is what it is.
00:00:58.000 I love the Rumble guys.
00:01:00.000 They're making things better and better and better.
00:01:01.000 But I just wanted to let you guys know the reason why it took a few minutes longer is because they're probably working on make it better.
00:01:07.000 So it is what it is.
00:01:08.000 But let's talk about this.
00:01:09.000 During the main show, Katie, you mentioned that your liberal friends have no kids and your conservative friends have 12.
00:01:15.000 I know, I know, I'm taking the extreme ends.
00:01:17.000 But no, I really do have friends with 12 kids.
00:01:19.000 Yeah, we've talked about this quite a bit.
00:01:22.000 In the 2000s, there was a study that said liberals were having, I think, 1.5 kids and conservatives are having 2.03 kids.
00:01:31.000 Now, we see the Pew research from a few years ago showing that while Gen Z is almost identical to Millennials politically, in some areas they actually tick slightly more conservative.
00:01:42.000 And I think that's probably because... You're now seeing the first wave of conservatives that are very serious about training of their kids.
00:01:49.000 If you have, if liberals have a hundred kids and conservatives have a hundred and fifty kids, And then indoctrination stuff is influential.
00:01:58.000 You'll end up with 110 liberal adults and 140 conservative adults.
00:02:05.000 Like, there will be some pull in the other direction, we can expect, if we expect that.
00:02:09.000 But conservatives will have an edge just because they're making more people.
00:02:13.000 Yeah, well, and I will say that something has happened among conservative parents, even in the last 10 years, which is where like, they were like, well, it's okay, like, I'm going to be able to now.
00:02:24.000 And now conservative parents are like, it's war.
00:02:27.000 I know it.
00:02:27.000 And I'm going to equip my kids.
00:02:28.000 So like we there really has been, you know, a red pill.
00:02:31.000 I mean, even among kind of non-political adult.
00:02:35.000 The culture has gone that crazy that it has radicalized a lot of ordinary parents to say, I'm going to get very, very serious about either homeschooling, pulling them out, or just, you know, moving, leaving the state.
00:02:46.000 I mean, like, there has been an exodus from, I say, like, not through the Red Sea, but to the Red States.
00:02:52.000 There has been an exodus, right?
00:02:54.000 We have people call in on occasion saying, I want to leave where I am to be in a different state.
00:02:59.000 I was going to ask, Sorry, just to address that.
00:03:02.000 There was a story that I read.
00:03:04.000 I don't want to move on from the subject, but put a pin in that.
00:03:07.000 There was a story a guy wrote that his daughter was trans, that the school kept telling her she was a boy, changed her pronouns, cut her hair, she was depressed, she attempted suicide, and so he moved her out of the state to a rural area, and within a few months she was totally better.
00:03:23.000 Yes, yeah.
00:03:24.000 One of the stories, a similar one, was a guy saying that when his school came to him and said that his daughter was trans, he immediately agreed completely and was like, really?
00:03:34.000 He's like, okay, let me know what I need to do.
00:03:36.000 We're gonna make sure we affirm her and keep her safe.
00:03:39.000 And then, a couple weeks later, he went to the school and said, job's transferring me.
00:03:43.000 I really do appreciate all your help.
00:03:44.000 We'll make sure she gets her treatment.
00:03:46.000 Moved to the middle of nowhere.
00:03:48.000 Cured.
00:03:48.000 Yeah, no, I have had friends whose kids have come out as trans or had very serious issues.
00:03:53.000 The state is not on your... I mean, Washington state, it's nuts. 0.85
00:03:55.000 They're not on your side.
00:03:57.000 And they have left the state because they could lose their kid.
00:04:00.000 Yeah, it's dangerous.
00:04:01.000 Yeah, they'll sterilize your kid. 0.99
00:04:02.000 They could.
00:04:03.000 But if you want to... Oh, yeah, I was just gonna ask, because you mentioned before that you encourage people to have people who are slightly ahead of them in parenting.
00:04:10.000 Yes.
00:04:11.000 Who was that for you?
00:04:12.000 And also what do you advise to give to parents when you are that person for them?
00:04:16.000 Oh, so you find them.
00:04:16.000 Yeah.
00:04:18.000 We actually chose our house because it was a couple of houses down from a mom that I admired and she had kids that were a little older than my kids.
00:04:23.000 And I thought, I just want to watch her.
00:04:24.000 I mean, that was one of the reasons why we chose our house.
00:04:27.000 So go to church, find the people, right?
00:04:29.000 Do this with your marriage too.
00:04:31.000 Like my husband and I both came from divorced homes and we didn't know what it looked like to work through problems and have healthy disagreements and be faithful to one another.
00:04:40.000 In the midst of challenges.
00:04:42.000 And so the church discipled us.
00:04:43.000 Yeah.
00:04:44.000 I mean, when we got married, they were like, well, you know, what's marriage?
00:04:48.000 I'm like, I don't care.
00:04:49.000 Everything's going to be okay.
00:04:49.000 He's totally hot.
00:04:50.000 I was like, we were idiots. 1.00
00:04:51.000 We were totally idiots. 1.00
00:04:52.000 How old were you when you got married? 1.00
00:04:53.000 So you were like, it doesn't matter.
00:04:53.000 22.
00:04:53.000 Yeah.
00:04:56.000 And you know, we'd never seen it modeled for us.
00:04:59.000 And so we needed the church to show us how.
00:05:01.000 So do it with marriage.
00:05:02.000 Do it with parenting.
00:05:02.000 Find people you admire who have worked through the issues.
00:05:07.000 And all serious, don't listen to people that tell you that you need 50 body counts before you should.
00:05:11.000 Oh my God.
00:05:12.000 Yeah.
00:05:12.000 I got lots of issues with the single people online giving relationship advice.
00:05:17.000 So that's right.
00:05:19.000 Don't listen to relationship advice from people that have not built, maintained thriving marriages and have kids that you admire.
00:05:26.000 It's crazy to me that people have been able to make a career, single guys and women. 0.87
00:05:30.000 Esther Peral, the divorced therapist, she's one of the top podcasts that people go to.
00:05:36.000 And you want to be like, not that your heart is not in the right place, but if you don't have the outcome that I'm looking for, why would I take your instruction manual?
00:05:42.000 To be fair, I often look to the people who lost their sporting events for the best advice, you know, instead of going to the people who are currently winning.
00:05:49.000 You know, losing love, it does wake you up to what not to do.
00:05:52.000 That's for sure.
00:05:53.000 I've been through that.
00:05:54.000 I know how not to fuck it up again.
00:05:55.000 You know, I think it's actually really simple.
00:05:57.000 I think that human pair bonding typically occurs in younger ages than we actually expect.
00:06:05.000 And so this is like high school age into college is when you are high school sweetheart, you date, you're older, then you get married.
00:06:13.000 And what happens is if you are 18 and you are in a relationship, That is a tiny portion of your life.
00:06:23.000 And if you remain in that relationship and get married by the time you're in your 30s, half your life is built with and around this person.
00:06:30.000 You share so much.
00:06:31.000 You experience a lot of the same things.
00:06:33.000 You have so much in common. 1.00
00:06:35.000 What's happening now is they're saying, fuck around, do whatever the fuck you want. 1.00
00:06:39.000 And now you've got 30 year old women being like, I can't find a husband or someone to be with me and men as well. 1.00
00:06:44.000 And it's like, well, yeah, your whole life is this track.
00:06:48.000 His whole life is this track, and they are incongruous.
00:06:50.000 So this is cornerstone versus capstone marriage, okay?
00:06:53.000 So we used to have cornerstone marriages, where you would meet when you were 18, date for a while, get married when you're 20, 22, 24, and it was the cornerstone of your life.
00:07:02.000 And then you would build around that cornerstone together.
00:07:05.000 You'd form a foundation together, and you would build your home together.
00:07:09.000 Now, I mean, sorry, fit and fresh.
00:07:12.000 Fresh and fit.
00:07:13.000 Fresh and fit.
00:07:14.000 They were saying, don't do that.
00:07:16.000 First, build your career, get your dating prowess on, get enough money.
00:07:21.000 So they're thinking about marriage as a capstone.
00:07:23.000 First, I'm going to put my life in place, and then I'm going to ding, put a cherry on top.
00:07:28.000 Like you said, Tim, that's not how we're wired.
00:07:30.000 That's not how our bodies are wired.
00:07:31.000 And if you are going to hit all the body counts, with the good dad that he was debating against, he was talking about sort of the chemicals.
00:07:38.000 That guy was cool.
00:07:39.000 He was awesome.
00:07:40.000 That's the kind of guy that you should follow.
00:07:42.000 And what he was talking about is you can't mess around, especially with sex, without it chemically impacting you, right?
00:07:50.000 You can't hug for more than 20 seconds without increasing oxytocin levels in your body.
00:07:54.000 That is a chemical response that is conditioning you that is going to develop pathways for future behavior.
00:08:00.000 So if you are doing that, especially with sex, which disproportionately it affects women more, right, that oxytocin Both men and women have the oxytocin release.
00:08:10.000 Men's testosterone dampens it. 0.65
00:08:12.000 Estrogen levels in women increase it. 0.70
00:08:13.000 Women are more likely to feel connected. 1.00
00:08:15.000 They have to kill that connection to be, you know, the feminized icon. 1.00
00:08:20.000 Yeah, part of hookup culture.
00:08:20.000 Part of hookup culture.
00:08:22.000 But they have to kill a big part of themselves to do that.
00:08:24.000 So you really are messing with your chemical wiring and your emotional wiring if you think that you're going to And they're like, well, test drive the car, right?
00:08:33.000 That was their big analogy, test drive the car.
00:08:35.000 No, like, the more you hook up and the more you shack up, the less likely that marriage, that relationship is to lead to marriage, the more likely it is to break up if it leads to marriage.
00:08:44.000 Well, I'll tell you this.
00:08:46.000 When Chelsea Handler made that video about how she wakes up at six in the morning, smokes pot, masturbates and goes back to bed. 0.99
00:08:54.000 You had a bunch of conservatives being like, you know, Ben Shapiro's like, that woman is miserable. 0.99
00:08:57.000 She's miserable, absolutely miserable. 0.98
00:08:59.000 And I was like, no, she's not. 0.99
00:09:01.000 Like, you could make the argument, fine. 0.99
00:09:05.000 But in her mind, in her world, I'm pretty sure smoking pot, doing drugs and masturbating feels pretty good. 0.98
00:09:11.000 Happiness is different than fulfillment. 0.65
00:09:13.000 However, when she's in the hospital, after suffering a sudden cardiac event, and the doctor comes in and says, I'm sorry, Ms.
00:09:23.000 Handler, There's nothing we can do.
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00:10:29.000 I was going to say, well, okay, we're here if you need us.
00:10:29.000 No.
00:10:32.000 And then she's going to be sitting in this sterile room, staring at a dark blue wall, just thinking nothing, alone, fading out of existence.
00:10:40.000 The thing about marriage and children is it is high investment in the short term.
00:10:45.000 Well, it takes a while, right?
00:10:46.000 But it is, it is costly, right?
00:10:49.000 To commit to one person, to have To bear children, have children, raise children.
00:10:55.000 It is high investment.
00:10:56.000 It does cost you something.
00:10:58.000 But the long-term return...
00:11:00.000 What if those kids become Hollywood movie stars?
00:11:02.000 Well, what if your kids are just awesome teenagers like mine who are, you know, soccer stars and raising chickens and, you know, drawing- Raising chickens!
00:11:11.000 That's my language.
00:11:11.000 Yes.
00:11:12.000 Yes.
00:11:12.000 No, well, and that's what happened.
00:11:13.000 The pandemic happened and my daughter was like, I want chickens.
00:11:16.000 I'm like, fine, you're going to be home all day.
00:11:18.000 So we got chickens.
00:11:19.000 Typical.
00:11:19.000 I think this happened to you.
00:11:20.000 She like hand selected nine chicks, her precious chicks, and five of them were roosters. 1.00
00:11:27.000 So she is like a frontier woman, so she learned to slaughter them. 1.00
00:11:31.000 She's like a frontier woman. 0.96
00:11:33.000 She was 14 when we got her.
00:11:34.000 She's a frontier woman.
00:11:35.000 It's amazing.
00:11:36.000 And raised in Seattle, our frontier woman.
00:11:38.000 Oh my gosh, we were so over the limit of number of chickens you could have in your yard.
00:11:42.000 The fact that there's even a limit, gross. 0.83
00:11:44.000 We were, they shut the bridge down to Harper's Ferry, basically to West Virginia, and it's fucked everything up. 0.53
00:11:50.000 I tried the detour. 0.99
00:11:51.000 Holy shit. 0.99
00:11:53.000 It was like two miles of cars not moving. 0.99
00:11:54.000 It's crazy because it's a rural back road.
00:11:56.000 Anyway, though, as we were sitting there in traffic, not moving for 10 minutes, I looked to my right and there were just chickens along the side of the road.
00:12:03.000 And it was because the person who lived there just opens the door and lets the chickens go do their thing.
00:12:06.000 It's whatever.
00:12:07.000 Yeah, chicken life, chicken life.
00:12:09.000 Why do they cross the road?
00:12:11.000 They don't, they actually never will.
00:12:12.000 Because the bridge is closed, that's why.
00:12:14.000 Yeah, they're desperate to get somewhere.
00:12:16.000 But what were we just talking about before chickens took over the conversation?
00:12:19.000 Jason Howerton, that's the guy that was on the Fresh and Fit podcast that was dropping the mad dad knowledge.
00:12:25.000 I read, I listened to this, do you know NPR's Hidden Brain?
00:12:29.000 They do the sociology podcast.
00:12:30.000 They had an episode on, and I listened to it a long time ago, talking about parenting and saying their different styles.
00:12:35.000 But one of the things I found most interesting was someone who's on made the observation that And I think this applies to you because you are writing a parenting book that parenting books exist in the modern culture because we left a culture where you were around younger children.
00:12:50.000 You were around, first because of birth control, right?
00:12:52.000 People had fewer children.
00:12:54.000 So you're not seeing your younger siblings being raised.
00:12:56.000 You're maybe not around nieces and nephews as much as people would have been.
00:12:59.000 And we have a more transient culture.
00:13:01.000 You're not necessarily raising them in a A compound, right? 0.99
00:13:05.000 With this extended family.
00:13:06.000 Or even a small town where you grew up, yeah.
00:13:07.000 Right, right, right.
00:13:08.000 And so you don't have the aunts around you, the grandmas, the cousins, all of that.
00:13:10.000 And I mean, you listen to people who maybe had one or two siblings when they were growing up.
00:13:14.000 I think most of us grew up in the era where there was like two parents, sorry, two kids.
00:13:19.000 A lot of people don't hold babies and they're not around babies a lot anymore.
00:13:22.000 And so then you have babies and you're like, I don't really know how I know multiple men who have told me the first diaper they ever changed was their own child's diaper.
00:13:30.000 They had never interacted with an infant like that before.
00:13:33.000 They'd never been caring for one like that.
00:13:34.000 I don't even like holding other people's babies.
00:13:36.000 Because you think you're going to drop them?
00:13:36.000 Yeah, they cry.
00:13:38.000 What's the fear?
00:13:40.000 It's a tremendous amount of responsibility for the most important thing in that person's life.
00:13:43.000 Yeah, that's true.
00:13:43.000 And people will be like, hold my baby.
00:13:45.000 And I'm like, it is the most important thing in the world to you.
00:13:48.000 And I cannot have that responsibility in my hands.
00:13:50.000 I'm sorry.
00:13:50.000 Well, sit on the floor with him then.
00:13:52.000 Yeah, that's fine.
00:13:53.000 Like, I like, kids are awesome.
00:13:54.000 Yeah.
00:13:54.000 And it's fun to teach kids and stuff like that.
00:13:57.000 But like, I don't, I, oh man, it would be like a nightmare scenario to screw up holding someone's baby.
00:14:02.000 Yeah.
00:14:02.000 And you know what?
00:14:03.000 Dads don't hold them anyway.
00:14:04.000 They toss them.
00:14:05.000 That's right.
00:14:05.000 You throw them in the air.
00:14:06.000 Bill was holding his daughter on his knee and she was like bending.
00:14:11.000 Allie was like, what are you doing?
00:14:12.000 He's like, it's okay.
00:14:13.000 And she was like, just stretching like full.
00:14:15.000 It is okay.
00:14:16.000 Yeah.
00:14:17.000 Do you find that with your liberal friends, there is a fear of having children or does it lean more selfish?
00:14:23.000 Cause I think there are a lot of people who are fearful.
00:14:26.000 I'm going to mess it up.
00:14:26.000 I'm not with the right person.
00:14:28.000 Like they haven't either reached the capstone or there's some internal fear of children.
00:14:32.000 No, not as much fear, more selfishness.
00:14:34.000 Some of that is like, I don't want this to interrupt.
00:14:36.000 But a lot of it really is, this is not good for the planet.
00:14:39.000 Like, this is bad for the planet.
00:14:41.000 And do you think that's Seattle-specific, or do you think that's liberal?
00:14:43.000 No, I think that's liberal-wide, that this is bad for the planet.
00:14:46.000 And they're like, overpopulation.
00:14:47.000 I'm like, over?
00:14:48.000 What are you talking about?
00:14:49.000 That is so like a 30-year-old narrative.
00:14:51.000 We are heading for a demographic winter.
00:14:53.000 Do you understand?
00:14:56.000 South Korea probably will not be able to pull themselves out. 0.77
00:14:59.000 Japan is better. 0.92
00:15:00.000 They were there at 9.91.
00:15:03.000 South Korea shocked everybody came in at .79.
00:15:06.000 And so that is actually a population trajectory that they really may not be able to reverse.
00:15:11.000 Like we were talking about the elimination of nations.
00:15:13.000 Well, yeah, but like, I don't really care that liberals aren't having kids.
00:15:18.000 Well, I will tell you the whole ideology is an anti-life ideology.
00:15:21.000 Yeah, I agree.
00:15:22.000 And so they're sterilizing, aborting and just outright not having kids.
00:15:26.000 And my attitude is I'm not a conservative.
00:15:28.000 I am not one of these like, oh, these poor people are so misled.
00:15:32.000 And I'm more libertarian. 0.99
00:15:33.000 So I'm like, guys, they can live the life they want to live and wake up at six in the morning, do drugs and masturbate. 0.98
00:15:39.000 And then in 20 years, they won't exist anymore. 0.99
00:15:41.000 And it will just be you.
00:15:42.000 So you know what it you know what it takes to be a conservative these days is living in reality.
00:15:46.000 Oh, I know, I know.
00:15:47.000 They call me conservative.
00:15:48.000 That's why we call our book Raising Conservative Kids in a Woke City, teaching economic, biological, and historical reality.
00:15:55.000 That is literally what it means to be a conservative.
00:15:57.000 So you're a conservative, Tim.
00:15:58.000 Welcome.
00:15:59.000 No, I agree.
00:15:59.000 I think at this point, conservative means fact-based and liberal means cult-based.
00:16:04.000 That's just, because they're like, you know, far right, Tim Pugh.
00:16:07.000 I'm like, the headlines, someone mentioned this earlier in the Super Chat, that media-biased fact check, it's a website, calls us like far right, almost extreme right.
00:16:16.000 And if you look at our headlines to articles, it's like, you know, impeachment inquiry opened it to Joe Biden.
00:16:22.000 And then you look at the Daily Mail and it's like, Hunter Biden smokes crack, buys gun, caught lying.
00:16:28.000 It's like, okay, you know, whatever.
00:16:29.000 I'll spice up my headlines, Tim, I promise.
00:16:34.000 Actually, I would say a lot of the outlets have slowly stopped doing that because it's this weird thing that doesn't work anymore, accusing someone of being far right.
00:16:39.000 But they will call TimCast IRL a conservative or a right-wing podcast.
00:16:45.000 And I'm just like, that just proves they've never seen it.
00:16:47.000 Yeah, for sure.
00:16:47.000 They've never watched a single episode.
00:16:49.000 And it's this simple.
00:16:52.000 Joe Biden did commit crimes.
00:16:54.000 Period.
00:16:54.000 End of story.
00:16:55.000 Have a nice day.
00:16:56.000 They don't believe these things, they don't investigate these things, and pointing out facts is conservative.
00:17:02.000 It's not about what your politics are.
00:17:03.000 Allegedly.
00:17:04.000 It's reality.
00:17:05.000 They call Jimmy Dore far-right.
00:17:06.000 Jimmy Dore is an outright socialist. 0.96
00:17:08.000 We talk about the topics that the far-right talks about, but it's not a far-right fucking... None of us are far-right on this show. 0.94
00:17:16.000 We have guests on that would be on far-right shows. 0.65
00:17:18.000 That is framed incorrectly.
00:17:19.000 We talk about the biggest stories of the day correctly.
00:17:24.000 When we start Timcast IRL, I don't say, what are the right-wing people talking about today?
00:17:28.000 Oh, that's true. 1.00
00:17:28.000 I'm not looking for the deep, weird, Jewish shit like the... I'm not talking about that. 1.00
00:17:36.000 I am not saying, what have the conservatives talked about today?
00:17:38.000 I'm saying, what's the headline on the New York Times, the Wall Street Journal, the Washington Post, and the Daily Mail?
00:17:44.000 What are the biggest stories today?
00:17:45.000 And it's like, an impeachment inquiry was opened into Joe Biden.
00:17:48.000 There's our headline.
00:17:49.000 That's the big news.
00:17:51.000 Everyone's talking about it.
00:17:52.000 We cover it.
00:17:53.000 We then say, hey look, here's a video of Joe Biden engaging in a quid pro quo.
00:17:57.000 Ah, they're conservative.
00:17:58.000 I'm like, but the video exists!
00:18:00.000 Simply by reporting on it, we're conservative.
00:18:03.000 This is the thing.
00:18:04.000 It's conserving reality.
00:18:05.000 Jeez, dude, Washington Post is all about the Bidens today.
00:18:08.000 We do not talk about conservative issues.
00:18:12.000 No, we don't.
00:18:12.000 You don't think so?
00:18:13.000 We talk, no.
00:18:14.000 We talk about family and God.
00:18:16.000 No, no, no, no, I'm not saying that.
00:18:17.000 I'm saying the premise of Timcast IRL is not, what's the big conservative story today?
00:18:22.000 The premise is, what is the big story today?
00:18:25.000 That's it.
00:18:26.000 And so you'll often find the headline of the Daily Mail, not always, because sometimes it's like Kanye or something, Typically, what's the big trend on Google Trends?
00:18:36.000 And that's what we're talking about.
00:18:37.000 The only problem is, we tell the truth, we break it down, and we discuss and debate the issue.
00:18:42.000 The left is a cult.
00:18:43.000 So if they say, there's no evidence of an impeachment, and we say, here's a big list of evidence that literally exists and has nothing to do... You can come on this show and be like, I love Joe Biden, and he did all of those things.
00:18:55.000 You're conservative.
00:18:56.000 Well, and there are stories that we talk about that are big and meaningful, like Owen Troyer, right?
00:19:01.000 We were talking about him and what he's experiencing, the fact that he's getting charged with convicted of trespassing but going to jail because of his speech, and the mainstream media is not talking about that.
00:19:11.000 No, no, no, I disagree.
00:19:12.000 That was a huge story for the day that all of the leftists and liberals were talking about.
00:19:16.000 I feel like it was a big story, but just from my perspective in the writer's room, it's not something that CNN is talking about as much.
00:19:23.000 NBC was covering it a little bit more.
00:19:24.000 We're talking about things that are meaningful and powerful.
00:19:26.000 Oh, right, but the liberal journosphere was obsessed with the story.
00:19:30.000 Right, but the journosphere doesn't always reach mainstream Americans.
00:19:33.000 But my point is that if liberal journalists like Ryan Reilly are going on Twitter and saying, Owen Schroer, Owen Schroer, and they won't shut up about it, and I say, let's talk about that, That is my point.
00:19:45.000 We do not just cover stories that are something conservatives are talking about.
00:19:50.000 This is big political news and cultural news and we talk about it.
00:19:54.000 But the point I'm bringing up is, if you tell the truth, conservative.
00:20:00.000 So I say, Joe Biggs did not commit a crime that warrants two decades in prison.
00:20:04.000 I think he deserves some jail time for tearing down a fence and going in the building.
00:20:09.000 What does that look like?
00:20:10.000 I mean, reasonably, a couple months.
00:20:11.000 He got two and a half years.
00:20:13.000 Let's call it a day, conservative.
00:20:15.000 I'm like...
00:20:16.000 I'm pro-choice and pro-progressive tax.
00:20:18.000 Don't matter.
00:20:19.000 Don't even matter.
00:20:20.000 Conservative doesn't mean that anymore.
00:20:21.000 It's like, okay, whatever.
00:20:22.000 One of the things we got to do is not call Joe Biden a criminal, because he's technically innocent until proven guilty.
00:20:28.000 He's admitted to crimes.
00:20:29.000 That doesn't mean that he is a criminal.
00:20:31.000 He's corrupt, but it doesn't mean that he's a criminal.
00:20:33.000 But I do want to stress, not to get too far off the beaten, too far away from the subject is, Yeah, I think we're two generations away from this current iteration of liberalism ceasing to exist.
00:20:45.000 And people keep saying, that's not true, Tim, they're indoctrinated kids.
00:20:47.000 And I'm like, no, you're wrong.
00:20:49.000 Look at the pushback we're seeing in Loudoun County.
00:20:51.000 Look at the pushback in Florida.
00:20:53.000 Parents are, this is why they're freaking out.
00:20:55.000 Their indoctrination isn't working, and they don't have kids of their own.
00:20:58.000 Bye-bye.
00:20:59.000 How did you do it?
00:21:00.000 How did you navigate four kids in Seattle?
00:21:03.000 At least vaguely, generally, how did you do it?
00:21:04.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:21:05.000 Well, so there's a book.
00:21:07.000 But basically, you need to apply age-appropriate strategies to inculcate your worldview in developmental ways.
00:21:14.000 That's the bottom line.
00:21:14.000 So we sort of break it down like, what are you going to do in elementary school?
00:21:17.000 What are you doing in middle school?
00:21:18.000 What are you doing in high school?
00:21:21.000 You know, we talk a lot about how you can teach what you know, but you replicate what you are.
00:21:25.000 And so if you want your kids to be knowledgeable, to be able to stand firm, to be able to push back, to be able to sort fact from fiction, you'd better be able to do that, right?
00:21:34.000 You need to be an expert enough on the topics that need to be conserved.
00:21:38.000 Like we didn't call it raising anti-woke kids or anti-left kids.
00:21:41.000 We said raising conservative kids because there are specific things that are under attack right now that need to be conserved.
00:21:46.000 They're not new ideas.
00:21:47.000 They're old ideas.
00:21:48.000 They're the best ideas from economics and biology and history that need to be conserved.
00:21:52.000 What are those things right now that are under attack that you need to be an expert on?
00:21:55.000 You need to know enough about the founding of America, male-female, parent-child relationships, the nature of rights, religious freedom.
00:22:04.000 Protections, that kind of thing.
00:22:05.000 These are the things under attack.
00:22:07.000 These are the things you need to fortify your kids in.
00:22:10.000 You need to be an expert on this.
00:22:11.000 And I want to say one thing before we go to callers.
00:22:14.000 I am not Christian.
00:22:15.000 I believe in God.
00:22:16.000 But I actually think the Ten Commandments are pretty important.
00:22:18.000 You are correct.
00:22:20.000 You now get another 1000 points.
00:22:22.000 We talked about it a bit with Seamus.
00:22:23.000 We went through them and I said, if you think about what the commandments are outside of a religious context, try and view them secularly.
00:22:30.000 Overwhelmingly, they can be applied to a good moral life regardless of whether you believe in God or not.
00:22:35.000 Right.
00:22:36.000 But I don't want to rehash that.
00:22:37.000 We're going to go to callers now.
00:22:38.000 So let's do that.
00:22:39.000 And maybe we'll have that conversation tomorrow morning.
00:22:40.000 Okay.
00:22:41.000 It's a good one.
00:22:41.000 We're on mute.
00:22:43.000 Let us speak to... I have to shoot your name here. 0.95
00:22:45.000 Are we on mute?
00:22:46.000 Crondor.
00:22:47.000 I was on mute for a second there.
00:22:48.000 Crondor! 1.00
00:22:49.000 He's back!
00:22:50.000 How are you?
00:22:50.000 Good to talk to you again.
00:22:52.000 Hey, good evening, everybody.
00:22:53.000 How are you guys doing?
00:22:55.000 Very fun.
00:22:56.000 Here he is.
00:22:59.000 So my question was, so what are your thoughts on what the state of the nation is going to be between November 2024 and January 20th, 2025?
00:23:10.000 And as a result of like what happened last time, Do you think we need to kind of, like, revamp that period of time where- or give it more time so that people can do their legal processes or maybe even shorten it so that they can't?
00:23:24.000 I mean, what do you guys think?
00:23:25.000 Nope, because whoever wins will say no. 1.00
00:23:28.000 If Trump wins, the Democrats will file suit, and the right's gonna be like, fuck you, no. 1.00
00:23:31.000 And if the left wins, the right's gonna be like, we should sue, and the left's gonna be like, fuck you, no. 1.00
00:23:35.000 It is gonna be crazy as fuck. 0.99
00:23:38.000 And I just- I just gotta say, guys, like, tell me a reasonable scenario. 0.71
00:23:44.000 Just, please.
00:23:45.000 Where there is not chaos following the results of the 2024 election.
00:23:48.000 If Biden wins, if Trump wins, I think Biden drops out.
00:23:53.000 I am of the strong position right now, I believe that Biden will drop out.
00:23:57.000 And I do have a piece of me being like, man, I don't know for sure, but I just cannot, two things I can't see.
00:24:04.000 I can't see Biden actually running, because if he does, it's a sure shot to losing, period, end of story. 0.84
00:24:10.000 If he does remain in, this overlaps the other scenario in that they pull Trump's name off the ballot, there's some fuckery, and then... But let's just say, right now, the election's totally normal.
00:24:23.000 Trump runs, Biden wins, everyone smiles, shakes hands.
00:24:26.000 Then the results come in. 0.99
00:24:28.000 Everything burns to the fucking ground, no matter who the winner is. 0.99
00:24:30.000 Democrats won't accept Trump, Trump supporters won't accept Joe Biden or Democrats. 1.00
00:24:34.000 I just, I don't see it.
00:24:35.000 Yeah, it's almost better that neither one of those guys runs for president, but... No, no, that doesn't even matter either.
00:24:40.000 Make him go away isn't the way to look at it.
00:24:42.000 If they're calling Viveka 9-11 Truth-er, they call Ron DeSantis, they imply he's like with young girls and stuff like this.
00:24:51.000 What is Truth-er?
00:24:52.000 What does that mean?
00:24:52.000 I've heard it for years, but what does it mean?
00:24:54.000 It means you believe that- False truth?
00:24:56.000 9-11 is an inside job.
00:24:58.000 So it's just about 9-11?
00:24:59.000 They don't go- Truth-er means you reject the official narrative of thing.
00:25:03.000 Yeah.
00:25:04.000 It comes from 9-11 Truth-er.
00:25:05.000 Oh, okay.
00:25:06.000 But now, you know, people have applied it to other things.
00:25:08.000 But, uh, yeah.
00:25:11.000 Bro, I gotta be honest, I think your question's fairly obvious.
00:25:14.000 You know, there are a lot of people who are like, Tim, you need to go touch grass. 0.94
00:25:16.000 And I'm like, dude, I go out all the fucking time. 0.90
00:25:19.000 I was in Portland, Maine. 0.98
00:25:20.000 I was in the Outer Banks.
00:25:21.000 I go to National Harbor in D.C.
00:25:23.000 and hang out with regular old people at a poker table. 1.00
00:25:25.000 And I am telling you, fuck me, dude, it's gonna be nuts. 0.99
00:25:28.000 You know, the closest I see to normalcy is when a dude at the poker table says, you know, I don't really follow any of that stuff. 1.00
00:25:35.000 I have no idea.
00:25:36.000 And I'm like, yeah. 0.97
00:25:37.000 And then three of the other guys at the table are talking shit about Joe Biden and the Democrats and like, I don't know, man. 0.99
00:25:44.000 Politics is pop culture. 0.98
00:25:47.000 And come 2024, the results come in.
00:25:52.000 I do not, I cannot envision a clean scenario.
00:25:55.000 Trump's name gets pulled from a single ballot, wrong size ballot images, videos of people covering up the windows.
00:26:02.000 You need one.
00:26:04.000 All it takes is one, and then people are gonna be like, I refuse, and it's gonna be nuts.
00:26:08.000 Peaceful transition of power.
00:26:10.000 Yeah, I don't see that happening.
00:26:11.000 Yeah, me either.
00:26:12.000 Suddenly also all the lefties start saying bootlicker again.
00:26:15.000 Yeah, but Grondor, do you wanna elaborate on that, or was that sufficient?
00:26:20.000 No, I agree with you.
00:26:22.000 I can't see anything playing out without someone throwing a brick through a window and just having the domino effect of everything burning down to the ground after that.
00:26:32.000 Get away from cities.
00:26:35.000 Here's what I would do, and I don't want to give anyone advice because you've got to be responsible for your own safety because your circumstances are unique, but if it were me, I would not be in a city, and I just have some emergency supplies.
00:26:47.000 Yeah, get to know your neighbors.
00:26:48.000 Get to know your neighbors.
00:26:49.000 Because worst case scenario is that there's chaos outside your house, and if you know your neighbors, you guys will be ready for it, and it won't happen.
00:26:55.000 But I do think it's fair to say it's not going to be immediately after the election is called, like the early morning hours.
00:27:02.000 It could be two months later, like we saw with January 6th. 0.96
00:27:06.000 I mean, it could be fucking crazy.
00:27:08.000 I mean, look, look, in 2020, the Democrats envisioned a scenario where West Coast states would be pressured to secede from the Union if Trump wins. 0.87
00:27:18.000 There's a John Podesta thing.
00:27:19.000 Yep, yep, Boston Globe reported this, so y'all get ready.
00:27:22.000 But, uh, was that good?
00:27:24.000 Should we advance the concern?
00:27:27.000 No, that was great.
00:27:27.000 I appreciate it.
00:27:29.000 I was wondering if I could ask a question maybe after everybody else is done or if there's time.
00:27:34.000 You should just ask it now.
00:27:37.000 Yeah, so it's faster.
00:27:39.000 Sure.
00:27:40.000 I wanted to ask you this yesterday, because you were talking about people, you know, plugging into the metaverse and then just being fed bugs.
00:27:46.000 But what were your thoughts about the holodeck on Star Trek?
00:27:51.000 And, you know, and its parallels too, so I'm plugging into it.
00:27:54.000 Because even, like, Picard at times would, like, you know, escape into, like, one of his Sherlock Holmes, you know, things.
00:28:00.000 And I mean, what are your thoughts on those parallels?
00:28:03.000 So, the holodeck, amazing.
00:28:05.000 If we ever had anything like that.
00:28:07.000 It's funny because they didn't understand VR and computer brain interface.
00:28:10.000 What is a holodeck?
00:28:11.000 It's like a room.
00:28:12.000 A room that can become anything.
00:28:14.000 And it's infinite space when the room becomes the jungle, you're actually in a jungle.
00:28:19.000 You don't like walking through a wall.
00:28:20.000 Because it's a treadmill, actually.
00:28:21.000 It's like what you guys are describing in your video games.
00:28:23.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:28:24.000 But like, you walk into a room, you say, computer, Sherlock Holmes, and all of a sudden you are Sherlock Holmes.
00:28:29.000 The thing about that is, let's be real.
00:28:33.000 It's a publicly accessible room on a ship full of your peers and colleagues.
00:28:39.000 People wouldn't do all that crazy of stuff with it. 0.99
00:28:42.000 Now, in their homes back on Earth, It would be the most fucked up psychotic porn machine ever devised. 0.99
00:28:50.000 Dude, that should be an episode of Star Trek where, like, Riker's like, yo, you see the shit that Picard was doing in the fuckin' holodeck at his house? 0.98
00:28:56.000 No, no, it's gotta be like, that's a parody we could do, where it's like, no one's gonna go on, like, let's say you're on a military ship, and they have a video game console or computer with a big screen that anyone can look at, no one's gonna blast porn on it unless they're doing it as a gag where they're, like, trying to prank and be like, ah, look what we just pulled up. 0.92
00:29:14.000 But in their own home.
00:29:15.000 So you could do a bit where it's like, yeah, I'm gonna pick up Picard for the meeting we got and he shows up and he's like, Jean-Luc, are you in here?
00:29:23.000 And then he walks in and then he's like, he must be playing holodeck and he opens it and there's just like lizard people banging Sasquatch.
00:29:31.000 They prank him on his birthday, they put a virus in the deck and he's like, Holodeck.
00:29:35.000 Computer, take me to the front lines of the Battle of- and then he's in a brothel and he's like, no I said slow down, computer, slow down! 0.68
00:29:41.000 The virus would be him being like, play porn scenario 14.
00:29:46.000 And then he sees a beautiful woman and he's like, perfect.
00:29:49.000 And then all of a sudden the woman turns into Sasquatch and he's like, no, no! 0.76
00:29:52.000 But anyway, yeah.
00:29:54.000 Yeah, I just I just remember that one episode where Jordy makes a copy of this girl he likes and he's trying to date her in there.
00:29:59.000 And I'm like, that's just that's so on the surface.
00:30:02.000 One of the episodes was he creates a he has the computer create using a personnel, the Starfleet profile of the scientist.
00:30:12.000 He needs help designing or fixing some engineering problem.
00:30:15.000 The scientist is a woman.
00:30:17.000 The computer makes her agreeable and amicable and to work with him, and then he gets attracted to her, meets her in real life. 1.00
00:30:25.000 She's a bitch, and she's married. 1.00
00:30:27.000 She finds out that he created this thing of her and she's like, you are a bitch. 1.00
00:30:33.000 It's easier to have feelings for people that can't argue with you. 1.00
00:30:36.000 Thanks guys.
00:30:37.000 Thanks for calling in.
00:30:38.000 Cheers.
00:30:39.000 This is literally why you've got Japanese men that are marrying anime characters. 0.97
00:30:41.000 You know that in Japan, they have like business chains of masturbation stations. 0.96
00:30:47.000 Yeah.
00:30:48.000 When I was in Japan, I kept seeing this like logo, like a sign that I didn't know what it was.
00:30:54.000 And then finally I was like, what is that thing we see all over the place? 0.97
00:30:56.000 And they're like, oh, it's for masturbating. 0.98
00:30:57.000 And I was like, what? 0.99
00:30:59.000 Like, yeah.
00:30:59.000 And they're like, let's go check it out.
00:31:01.000 And so we went in and they have dirty women's panties. 1.00
00:31:05.000 They have rooms. 0.98
00:31:06.000 Some of the rooms are on camera.
00:31:09.000 You can watch because some people get off on being watched on camera while they do it.
00:31:13.000 There are stained clothes.
00:31:15.000 So is this just like, here's some relief so you can go back and focus on your job kind of thing? 0.98
00:31:19.000 It's like in the middle of work, you go to the masturbation station. 0.96
00:31:22.000 Instead of doing it in public. 1.00
00:31:23.000 Yeah, Japanese people would be crazy. 1.00
00:31:24.000 So you don't get caught on camera, tubing? 0.92
00:31:26.000 People want to be on camera.
00:31:28.000 Anyways, Panda-ish, how are you? 0.99
00:31:30.000 Hey, what's going on, Serge?
00:31:33.000 How you doing?
00:31:34.000 Um, you know, just listening to interesting conversations.
00:31:37.000 So I want to white pill people a little bit.
00:31:41.000 Please do.
00:31:43.000 It's more for Tim on Trash House Records.
00:31:46.000 So imagine a year and a half from now, you know, Trump's president, Vivek's vice president, and Cass Cafe is going, your stage is up and running, and you're running a show like The Voice.
00:32:02.000 Brett's your host, like Ryan Seacrest, and Ian, Phil, and Carter are your judges.
00:32:08.000 Now you're in fantasy land.
00:32:10.000 Well, I mean, Brett has blonde hair now, so he could be.
00:32:13.000 He's kind of grown out, I guess.
00:32:14.000 He could be a good Ryan Seacrest.
00:32:17.000 I'm more likely to build a carbon fiber graphene wingsuit and try and fly off the top of my building than to do what you described.
00:32:25.000 I gotta be honest, a carbon fiber graphene wingsuit, we should do that.
00:32:31.000 My goal is to have one of your songs play at the inauguration or whoever.
00:32:37.000 I don't care who wins.
00:32:38.000 I just want to hear Tim Cass music performed at a live event.
00:32:41.000 We'd have to write a song.
00:32:43.000 I think we got a million to one.
00:32:45.000 I don't think we need a bridge either.
00:32:46.000 Oh actually that could theoretically work.
00:32:48.000 That's a good political message because like you're up against the mass.
00:32:51.000 But it works for Trump's style of the music he kind of plays.
00:32:53.000 It's not too aggressive.
00:32:54.000 It's like Survivor kind of.
00:32:56.000 Vivek could use it at one of his rallies.
00:32:57.000 I just want to, I don't know.
00:32:58.000 I think it's cool that like there are many branches of this company that span lots of cultural interests that you could be hearing something that's attached to this podcast, but it could just be a song that you like.
00:33:09.000 It doesn't have to be because you like this candidate or because whatever.
00:33:12.000 You just like what we're producing.
00:33:14.000 Was it Pandish's suggestion that you didn't like?
00:33:17.000 Is it just the contest of the voice itself you don't want anything to do with?
00:33:21.000 Or do you not want... I mean, the whole thing about the voice is just awful in my opinion.
00:33:25.000 The voice.
00:33:26.000 Yeah, who wants to do that? 0.62
00:33:27.000 Those reality shows, those reality competition shows, they're pretty new in human culture, like 20 years new.
00:33:34.000 And I think it's done massive disservice to these people that want the I mean, it's like Eurovision, isn't it?
00:33:39.000 Yeah, it's not like Eurovision.
00:33:40.000 Yeah, it's just, they make karaoke contests.
00:33:43.000 Yeah, where you, like, come out of obscurity.
00:33:45.000 What was it, Pandesh, was that your question?
00:33:47.000 That you would suggest we would do something of this sort? 0.86
00:33:50.000 Well, I mean, because if anything, you guys would be able to push out actual, like, rock and alternative people actually playing music instead of all this friggin' auto-tune crap.
00:34:00.000 I would end up being like Simon Cowell. 0.75
00:34:01.000 I would really criticize... I would have to be honest.
00:34:04.000 And if they're not... We just have three Simon Cowells back to back to back.
00:34:09.000 These shows are covers.
00:34:11.000 It's not original music.
00:34:13.000 It's taking existing pop culture music, having someone sing it, and profiting off of it.
00:34:17.000 I wouldn't want to do something like that.
00:34:18.000 Well, no, you'd have them do their actual music instead.
00:34:21.000 But then it's just like... But then we might as well just sign bands that are good and just have them do shows.
00:34:28.000 You'll have us as members be able to vote for people that we think would actually help you because you'll be signing them, but we'll be like, oh yeah, that person's music or that band's music.
00:34:39.000 I think doing anything like The Voice would tarnish the credibility of the bands that were involved in it.
00:34:44.000 What if you did a music festival?
00:34:45.000 What if Trash House gets so big you guys can have an annual music festival?
00:34:48.000 I mean, that'd be great.
00:34:49.000 That'd be so cool.
00:34:50.000 Yeah.
00:34:50.000 I like the idea of white-pilling.
00:34:52.000 I'm not trying to discourage this.
00:34:53.000 Yeah, definitely.
00:34:53.000 And I think there are lots of cool things that our various projects could grow into, including Trash House.
00:34:58.000 White pills all around.
00:34:59.000 We could probably get like a field and set up a bunch of benches.
00:35:02.000 We have a field.
00:35:03.000 Yeah.
00:35:04.000 We do.
00:35:04.000 We have 50 acres.
00:35:05.000 Just get a bunch of fencing and then giant stadium, like not stadium seating, but benches, like, I don't know, benches.
00:35:12.000 I would, I would.
00:35:13.000 Sermon on the Mount, baby.
00:35:14.000 I would just do a show.
00:35:16.000 I would never do a voice kind of thing.
00:35:17.000 No judges.
00:35:18.000 None of that.
00:35:19.000 Not worth it.
00:35:19.000 You know, I would have a show and be like, that was great.
00:35:22.000 Like, if we had our own tiny desk, you know the NPR thing, where people come play their music?
00:35:26.000 That would be cool.
00:35:26.000 Yeah.
00:35:27.000 Well, I mean, we're setting up the music thing for here for Fridays.
00:35:28.000 Yeah, I think that would be cool.
00:35:29.000 The only reason we didn't is because we thought we were gonna be at Freedomistan by now, but we're just not because government takes forever.
00:35:35.000 Mm-hmm. 0.99
00:35:35.000 Dammit. 0.99
00:35:36.000 Yeah. 1.00
00:35:37.000 Panda-ish?
00:35:38.000 Anything else to add?
00:35:41.000 Yeah, real quick, Orville already did the HoloPorn, if you remember, if you watched Orville.
00:35:47.000 Yeah.
00:35:49.000 Also, you said you want to promote other shows.
00:35:52.000 Have you actually watched Carnival Row?
00:35:54.000 Nope.
00:35:54.000 Season two literally destroys communism, so I'm pretty sure Phil would like that.
00:35:59.000 Nice.
00:36:00.000 I watched the latest season of It's Always Sunny. 0.98
00:36:02.000 It's fucking great. 0.98
00:36:04.000 They're brilliant. 0.98
00:36:05.000 I love it.
00:36:06.000 Really good.
00:36:07.000 Well, Pandesh, thank you very much.
00:36:09.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.
00:36:10.000 Cheers.
00:36:11.000 Is Always Sunny still running?
00:36:12.000 Yeah.
00:36:13.000 Latest season was great.
00:36:14.000 It was hilarious.
00:36:16.000 Uh, R.O.R.
00:36:18.000 How are you?
00:36:19.000 You're with us.
00:36:21.000 Hello, Timcast crew and guests.
00:36:23.000 It's amazing to finally be able to call in and talk to all of you.
00:36:28.000 Question for you.
00:36:28.000 Is the O a zero or is that an O?
00:36:31.000 It is.
00:36:32.000 So it's Roar, and I kind of stole it from Warhammer.
00:36:35.000 It's Regiment of Renown.
00:36:37.000 Cool.
00:36:39.000 So I do apologize if this is a little long-winded, but I'm a New York resident, lifelong, and I was never really into politics.
00:36:48.000 I was just your default Democrat until around 2018, the fiasco that was the Trump impeachment.
00:36:55.000 It kind of fired me up a little bit and I started diving deep, researching and seeing what was going on in our country and our culture.
00:37:02.000 Shortly after, I found your show, Tim, and this is my home.
00:37:08.000 So I've been watching for a couple of years now.
00:37:11.000 I've been a member.
00:37:12.000 I watch every single night.
00:37:14.000 I've tried to get people involved.
00:37:16.000 In my hometown in New York we have a little project going on.
00:37:20.000 We're really really close to launching for cultural projects and we're trying to get our community more involved.
00:37:27.000 I'm doing things on my own along with three other people.
00:37:30.000 What are some resources that are available to kind of get ourselves out there fast hitting the ground and more involved into the community to bring more people together?
00:37:45.000 Do you have any ideas?
00:37:46.000 Oh, no.
00:37:48.000 You know, what I love about what you're doing, though, is and really there were some clues in what you were saying that, again, women just tend to connect.
00:37:59.000 Right.
00:37:59.000 But you're coming to Tim because you're saying you've built something and I want to know how you built something.
00:38:05.000 And actually, like what you're doing, I think, is deeply masculine, like men.
00:38:11.000 Men don't just need good ideas.
00:38:14.000 They need to see maleness embodied by a man. 0.99
00:38:17.000 You cannot disembody manhood.
00:38:19.000 It has to be embodied, right?
00:38:21.000 So that's why, you know, you're like, you said, this is my home, right?
00:38:25.000 You have found a place where formation is happening, right?
00:38:29.000 That's what happens at home is you're formed in a home.
00:38:32.000 And Tim is helping you form a new way of looking at the world.
00:38:36.000 But it's not just ideas.
00:38:38.000 It's he's built something concrete, and that is also deeply masculine.
00:38:42.000 And you are also building and taking responsibility for other people in your world.
00:38:46.000 So I just applaud you.
00:38:48.000 I love it.
00:38:48.000 Aurora.
00:38:50.000 And I just think that that is fantastic, right?
00:38:53.000 That that's how men roll. 0.74
00:38:54.000 They look at what men are doing men that they admire, They don't just need the men to take responsibility for themselves.
00:39:01.000 They need to see a man taking responsibility for other people, and that is what inspires them.
00:39:05.000 That's what calls them to greatness.
00:39:06.000 That's why you love watching, you know, Sound of Freedom, and why you love watching William Wallace fight the Scottish tyranny.
00:39:15.000 Like, everything that calls men... Thank you.
00:39:19.000 He is the Scot, right?
00:39:21.000 But everything that, what it is that calls men to greatness is other great men.
00:39:26.000 Yeah, I think that's interesting.
00:39:27.000 I think it's cool that you're- To get to his question, sorry.
00:39:30.000 I was going to say, I think if you want to grow, I think to your point, the best thing to do would be to have, in my opinion, events with people in your area that celebrate whatever you're interested in or that have your values and then you just invite other people to them.
00:39:45.000 I mean, this is a typical sorority recruitment tactic where you're saying, please bring someone to this event that we're having.
00:39:51.000 Everyone has to bring someone, but it's a way to quickly show people kind of your values, have them at an event, and then also have them connect with other people.
00:39:59.000 I think that's one of the reasons our Discord is so successful is that people want to keep the conversation going among their friends, and it gives them a place to say, these are people to talk to with your values.
00:40:08.000 So that's my advice.
00:40:09.000 Always just find someone, or if you're having events, make it mandatory that people bring someone new.
00:40:15.000 I want to know a little bit more about what it is that you're promoting exactly.
00:40:21.000 So we are starting our own podcast.
00:40:23.000 We've already gotten a couple of channels up and running.
00:40:26.000 We built our studio.
00:40:27.000 We're about $3,500 in.
00:40:31.000 We're just going to be talking about cultural stuff like you guys do.
00:40:35.000 Try to keep politics out of it a little bit in the beginning because we don't want to be pushed into a camp, but we're already collaborating with a bunch of local businesses because there's just a lot of people in my town, in my community.
00:40:50.000 They have so much to talk about, but they feel like nobody's listening and it's just driving us to want to do this.
00:40:58.000 I think it's cool that you're doing something.
00:40:59.000 It's good that you are.
00:40:59.000 Yeah.
00:41:00.000 You have to, you have to, there has to be action at some point.
00:41:02.000 You can't just sit idly by.
00:41:04.000 When I first started doing internet video, I would go to videos of people that I respected and wanted to emulate and look at all the comments.
00:41:10.000 And then I'd open each of the commenters page and message them individually with my newest video with a message.
00:41:16.000 This is my newest video.
00:41:17.000 I really truly, I believe in this.
00:41:18.000 I really think we can communicate.
00:41:20.000 And, and so I would do that like a thousand times a day or like, cause it's free.
00:41:25.000 You can market yourself for free that way.
00:41:26.000 And that'll get you from zero to like a thousand subscribers right off, you know, right away, meaning like 60 hours of work or 40 hours or whatever.
00:41:34.000 That's a good way.
00:41:34.000 I don't know if you can still do it as easily.
00:41:36.000 Snowball rolling down a hill.
00:41:38.000 You gotta put the work in.
00:41:40.000 But especially if you think it's for people in your town, like, if you have someone on who lives locally, have them send it to their five brothers or, you know, send it to a local newspaper or whatever you want to do.
00:41:51.000 Like, there are ways to, especially if you're already in a physical community, to distribute there and grow from that.
00:41:59.000 We definitely need to get on the next call.
00:42:02.000 I'm looking forward to seeing the show, man.
00:42:04.000 I wish I had a better answer for resources that you could use to help everything go faster, but I think the reality is you are digging through a tunnel made of pure stone.
00:42:14.000 You're digging a mountain path like that dude who, what was it, his wife died because she couldn't get to the hospital?
00:42:19.000 Thank you so much.
00:42:20.000 It's a big honor.
00:42:20.000 I hope you guys all have a wonderful night.
00:42:22.000 I'm honored that you're a member, my friend.
00:42:25.000 Thank you, man.
00:42:25.000 Seriously.
00:42:26.000 Mad respect.
00:42:27.000 And thank you so much for the support and for calling in.
00:42:29.000 Yep.
00:42:29.000 Cheers.
00:42:30.000 Good night.
00:42:30.000 Keep it up.
00:42:30.000 Good night.
00:42:31.000 All right.
00:42:31.000 Thanks for calling in, buddy.
00:42:32.000 St.
00:42:33.000 Thank you so much.
00:42:34.000 It's a big honor.
00:42:36.000 I hope you guys all have a wonderful night.
00:42:37.000 I'm honored that you're a member, my friend.
00:42:39.000 Thank you, man.
00:42:40.000 Seriously.
00:42:41.000 Mad respect.
00:42:42.000 And thank you so much for the support and for calling in.
00:42:44.000 Yep.
00:42:45.000 Cheers.
00:42:46.000 Keep it up.
00:42:47.000 Good night.
00:42:48.000 Good night.
00:42:49.000 All right, St. Miles, how are you?
00:42:51.000 Hi, thank you for taking my call.
00:42:53.000 Of course.
00:42:53.000 You got it, man.
00:42:56.000 My question is, sorry, I'm still reading some of the chats from the holodeck earlier.
00:43:03.000 It's all good.
00:43:04.000 But my question is, with the latest court decision on DACA, what are your thoughts, and for your guests especially, about Anchor Babies?
00:43:16.000 What was the latest ruling?
00:43:18.000 Uh, a judge just ruled that it's invalid, that DACA doesn't stand as a... Good.
00:43:23.000 Yeah, that's what I thought.
00:43:25.000 I mean, the thing is, DACA, they're gonna battle for DACA for the rest of eternity.
00:43:30.000 It's gonna be something that we fight on for years and years and years.
00:43:35.000 The thing about anchor babies, and I can say this because my brother is one, no I'm just kidding, well he kind of is, is that I don't believe in birthright citizenship.
00:43:43.000 So the idea of an anchor baby doesn't seem valid, right?
00:43:48.000 I don't think that we should have it be, I mean this was true, I can't remember his name, but one of the heads of a Mexican drug cartel So I don't think this ruling is the end of it.
00:43:56.000 It's not like we're just like, and they're done with DACA now because it's such a point of contention among the two parties.
00:44:02.000 If you have a child who is born in the US but their parents aren't here, there are different
00:44:07.000 ways for them to get, their extended family, to get into the country.
00:44:11.000 So I don't think this ruling is the end of it.
00:44:13.000 It's not like we're just like, and they're done with DACA now because it's such a point 1.00
00:44:16.000 of contention among the two parties.
00:44:18.000 But I think the real solution is ending birthright citizenship. 0.73
00:44:22.000 Agreed!
00:44:22.000 It's not what it's supposed to be.
00:44:25.000 And also, the times have changed.
00:44:27.000 It used to be that there was no real border and people walked back and forth, and being a citizen meant more to do with, did you have access to communal funds and voting and national defense and things like that.
00:44:37.000 Now it means something different because we have people ripping us off, murdering us, smuggling drugs, and I'm not okay with loopholes.
00:44:46.000 I just, I think we've got to have rules.
00:44:47.000 Yeah, I agree.
00:44:48.000 Did you see that Italian island of 6,000 citizens was just 7,000 immigrants came in?
00:44:53.000 Yep, trying to break through the barricades.
00:44:55.000 It's crazy. 0.99
00:44:56.000 Fucking hell. 1.00
00:44:57.000 I mean, that's like set up a machine gun, defend your territory kind of shit, man. 1.00
00:45:01.000 Yeah, seriously. 1.00
00:45:02.000 It is terrifying.
00:45:02.000 We're getting to like, listen, back in the day, if a horde of a thousand people carrying flags tried to rush into your town or country, it was all military.
00:45:12.000 It's like military age men, too.
00:45:14.000 It's not just women and children. 0.85
00:45:15.000 It's not women and children. 1.00
00:45:16.000 It's just a bunch of men.
00:45:17.000 That's called a barbarian horde. 0.99
00:45:20.000 Yep, literally.
00:45:21.000 I have a lot to learn about the subject, but I will say that the loophole of birthright citizenship is absolutely being exploited in big fertility right now.
00:45:28.000 You've got these Chinese couples that are coming over, renting the wombs of largely Californian women because it's Wild West in terms of reproductive technologies there. 1.00
00:45:36.000 Custom order a baby very often.
00:45:38.000 Well, maybe not often.
00:45:39.000 We don't know because big fertility doesn't track any of the children that they are purchasing, selling, and exporting. 0.99
00:45:45.000 But they will have two or three.
00:45:46.000 They'll implant two or three.
00:45:47.000 Then they'll abort the one or two that they don't want.
00:45:50.000 And then the child is Chinese, born to an American woman, and then has American citizenship, flown back to China.
00:45:57.000 And so, like, now we have added this commercial aspect, this customizing commercial aspect to birthright citizenship.
00:46:04.000 And countries, we are unique.
00:46:07.000 I mean, This is not a standard thing.
00:46:09.000 It's not every other country in the world.
00:46:11.000 If I had a child in Germany, it wouldn't automatically have German citizenship.
00:46:15.000 I think America doesn't understand.
00:46:18.000 I think it's wrong for America to assume this is an effective way just because we've always done it this way.
00:46:23.000 Yeah.
00:46:24.000 It used to be that we needed citizens when we were a birthing country, when we were young as a nation.
00:46:30.000 Now we're oversaturated, apparently.
00:46:32.000 Well, and also, if we needed citizens, why wouldn't we encourage people to have families?
00:46:35.000 That's great.
00:46:36.000 Also legal.
00:46:36.000 We never encouraged illegal immigration.
00:46:39.000 Instead of allowing birth tourism and open borders, we should be incentivizing having families.
00:46:45.000 I like the idea of cutting taxes for people if they have a certain number of kids, things like that.
00:46:51.000 And liberals seem to agree with that.
00:46:52.000 They do that in Hungary, I think.
00:46:54.000 Yeah, that's right.
00:46:54.000 If you're 25% off your income tax, up to four kids and you have none.
00:46:57.000 A lot of Eastern European institutions, it's to fight the decline in birth rate, right?
00:47:02.000 Fighting the decline of birthright isn't solved by opening your borders.
00:47:05.000 That's not the same thing at all.
00:47:07.000 I am so terrified of what could— St.
00:47:09.000 Miles, was that good?
00:47:11.000 I hate to go too abruptly, but I want to try and get to these other callers.
00:47:16.000 No, that was very on point.
00:47:17.000 Thank you very much.
00:47:18.000 And to Ian, my avatar is the Order of St.
00:47:22.000 John, not the Multiscope.
00:47:25.000 Oh, thanks, man.
00:47:26.000 Right on.
00:47:27.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.
00:47:28.000 Thank you.
00:47:29.000 Thank you, St.
00:47:29.000 Miles.
00:47:31.000 Alright Sammy Football, you're with us.
00:47:33.000 How are you?
00:47:35.000 Hey, can you guys hear me?
00:47:36.000 Yes.
00:47:37.000 Loud and clear.
00:47:38.000 So, um, I'll make it as quick as possible.
00:47:41.000 Cause I do have my little, uh, after show plug for the end, but, um, my question is actually for Katie.
00:47:46.000 Um, so once in a tweet, you had said adoption begins with loss, which disadvantages children.
00:47:55.000 And as someone who's adopted, I respectfully disagree.
00:47:57.000 And I truly consider me being adopted as a blessing in my life.
00:48:02.000 life compared to the life that I would have had, especially now that I know what I know.
00:48:09.000 I wish I had all night to share my story.
00:48:11.000 However, my question is, what needs to be reformed in the adoption process, in your
00:48:15.000 opinion, to make it easier for families who long to have children?
00:48:18.000 Yeah, I'd love to hear your story.
00:48:20.000 I wish we had time for it.
00:48:22.000 The reality is that adoption does not exist for adults.
00:48:24.000 It's not about giving kids to people who want to complete their family. 0.69
00:48:28.000 Not infertile adults, not gay adults. 1.00
00:48:30.000 Adoption is not for adults. 0.87
00:48:32.000 Adoption is for children.
00:48:33.000 Adoption is for kids whose parents could not or would not give them the life that they deserved.
00:48:39.000 And so the goal is to place children with the parents that are best going to be able to meet their needs, both in terms of safety and development, kinship bonds, wherever it's best and appropriate.
00:48:50.000 But adoption does begin with loss.
00:48:51.000 The child has to lose their first family to find their adoptive family.
00:48:56.000 The mother has to lose a relationship with her child, either because she's not fit or because she feels like she can't offer the child the life that the baby deserves.
00:49:05.000 And so adoption, as it's properly understood, is a child-centric institution.
00:49:09.000 It is a just society's response to children who have lost their parents.
00:49:13.000 It is not a means for adults to get kids.
00:49:15.000 That's not what it is.
00:49:16.000 And we fall into an awful lot of error in an awful lot of ways if we think that this institution exists for adults.
00:49:22.000 It doesn't.
00:49:23.000 It exists for you.
00:49:24.000 Adoption is for you.
00:49:25.000 It is to serve you.
00:49:28.000 Have you watched 30 Rock?
00:49:30.000 No.
00:49:31.000 Liz Lemon wants to have it all. 0.98
00:49:33.000 It's her character.
00:49:34.000 She's the head writer of a show. 1.00
00:49:35.000 It's a funny show.
00:49:36.000 I love the show.
00:49:37.000 But when they talk about how having it all means being the boss and having a family, they center her adoption around what she wants to be fulfilled, not around helping the baby.
00:49:50.000 They don't talk about the baby at all.
00:49:52.000 It's just she's trying to get a baby because she wants one. 1.00
00:49:55.000 Yeah.
00:49:56.000 And, you know, I'm an adoptive mom.
00:49:57.000 I used to be the assistant director at the largest Chinese adoption agency in the world.
00:50:01.000 I was responsible for compliance with international, state, and federal standards to make sure that the best interest of the child was upheld.
00:50:07.000 The way that adoption is set up is to restore what has been lost.
00:50:12.000 And so that's what adoption should be.
00:50:15.000 But that does not negate the fact that the child has to lose something to then find that redemptive position.
00:50:22.000 Does that help sort of correct?