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00:00:30.000 Ladies and gentlemen, we have that statement to play for you.

00:00:33.000 Here it is.

00:00:34.000 The country is in a very dark place right now.

00:00:37.000 But even after everything the deep state has done to me, I will never give up on America.

00:00:42.000 Mark my words.

00:00:44.000 In 2024, we will win back the White House.

00:00:47.000 We will make America great again.

00:00:50.000 I have no doubt about it.

00:00:52.000 They come at me from left.

00:00:53.000 They come at me from right. 0.93

00:00:56.000 The rhinos, the communists, the Marxists, the fascists.

00:01:00.000 We will not only survive, we will be stronger than ever before.

00:01:06.000 We're fighting a fight like nobody ever thought possible, and we're winning.

00:01:11.000 We won in 2016.

00:01:13.000 We had a rigged election in 2020, but got more votes than any sitting president.

00:01:18.000 We're going to win like never before, and we're going to make America great again.

00:01:25.000 I can truly say I believe Better than ever before.

00:01:29.000 Thank you for all of your support and for all of your prayers.

00:01:34.000 And that's it!

00:01:36.000 There you go.

00:01:37.000 That's Donald Trump's statement.

00:01:39.000 Well, I mean, he did do quite a service in helping wake the world up to what's actually happening in a lot of ways.

00:01:47.000 So if that's winning, then I believe him.

00:01:50.000 If winning is actually getting to become the U.S.

00:01:52.000 president again, I am not convinced.

00:01:54.000 You know why Trump lost in 2020? 0.99

00:01:55.000 Because they fucking rigged it behind the scenes. 0.99

00:01:58.000 COVID. 0.99

00:02:00.000 Yep, proprietary voting software.

00:02:02.000 I think nothing but votes.

00:02:03.000 No COVID, Trump won.

00:02:05.000 None of this would have been possible with the votes, with everything that they've done, with the lockdowns without COVID.

00:02:09.000 COVID has the see-all, end-all.

00:02:11.000 And it's partly Trump's fault.

00:02:13.000 Trump initially supported the lockdowns.

00:02:15.000 Later on, he said... Well, two weeks to flatten the curve.

00:02:16.000 Right.

00:02:17.000 And then later on, he was like, well, it's the governors that are doing it.

00:02:19.000 He could have done a lot more, and he just was... He did not understand.

00:02:24.000 They had surrounded him on the battlefield, and he was standing there being like, how lovely that all of my friends are here.

00:02:30.000 Yeah, and the riots.

00:02:31.000 The riots of 2020.

00:02:32.000 He could have used that.

00:02:34.000 They set a precedent for the riots of January 6th.

00:02:36.000 Like, people were just used to rioting at that point.

00:02:39.000 If Trump allowed them to storm the White House, he'd be president right now.

00:02:41.000 But I think if he had shut down the riots in 2020 with the National Guard, that maybe we wouldn't have had a January 6th eruption.

00:02:48.000 I don't think so.

00:02:50.000 I don't think the riots of 2020 really factored into the right's behavior and, I mean, the bad actor's behavior on January 6th.

00:02:56.000 You don't think that the right felt like, you don't think the people that went to the January 6th riot, they felt like, oh, if things get out of hand, it's kind of okay because that's kind of the way things have been?

00:03:07.000 I don't think that was their mindset going into it.

00:03:09.000 I mean, there was a feeling in the air, right?

00:03:11.000 There was an immense energy that people weren't even thinking that far.

00:03:14.000 I know I wasn't.

00:03:15.000 I know a lot of people on the ground weren't.

00:03:17.000 There was just, I would say it was like this godlike, I mean, an energy that I've never felt before all throughout.

00:03:23.000 I mean, it was the mob mentality.

00:03:25.000 You know, they didn't go there to be violent.

00:03:26.000 Yeah, you had people that did, but when you're in a group like that and you're all there for the exact same purpose, there's power behind that and they use that power.

00:03:35.000 I don't think, you know, they were thinking in the moment of being prosecuted for anything.

00:03:39.000 I don't even think that crossed most people's minds and that's why you had people walk into the Capitol and just, I mean, literally hang out on Capitol grounds and now they're sitting in prison.

00:03:47.000 I don't think they thought they were doing anything wrong.

00:03:49.000 Yeah.

00:03:50.000 Yeah, a lot of them didn't.

00:03:51.000 There were people who were fighting for sure.

00:03:52.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:03:53.000 But I think, I'll say it again, if on May 29th, The far left just ransacked all these buildings and destroyed DC.

00:04:03.000 Trump would be president.

00:04:03.000 If they allowed them to burn that church down and then storm the White House, it would have been over.

00:04:07.000 But I think you guys are right about COVID, man.

00:04:08.000 With COVID fucked everything up so bad and it gave so much power to these people behind the scenes to do what they wanted with the voting system.

00:04:14.000 Exactly.

00:04:15.000 Because of that, they were able to enact all these universal mail-in voting bullshits where they could do ballot harvesting, ballot chasing, knocking on doors, and then Trump and... This is the thing people gotta remember, man.

00:04:27.000 The fraud narrative right after the election was not, they were ballot harvesting, and that's how they won, it was...

00:04:34.000 Venezuela, Chinese hacking, Trump secretly put watermarks on the ballots, trucks driving in at 4 a.m.

00:04:42.000 secretly delivering the votes that were printed in China, all of that stuff. 1.00

00:04:48.000 Yeah, that's all- that's all- that's all bullshit. 0.98

00:04:50.000 And that was- this is what- this is what I often say when it comes to stuff like Pizzagate. 0.97

00:04:53.000 Here's what they do, and here's what y'all need to pay attention to.

00:04:55.000 This is the trick. 0.98

00:04:57.000 You will stumble upon a true conspiracy, and what they'll do is, they will chuck red meat over the fence, so you all go running after it, meanwhile they carry on their fucked up business. 0.98

00:05:08.000 In this instance, what did they do? 0.97

00:05:10.000 Changed the laws.

00:05:11.000 Changed the rules.

00:05:12.000 Chased after ballots.

00:05:13.000 Probably a lot of illegal ballot chasing.

00:05:16.000 Getting elderly people to vote and sign up on things. 0.64

00:05:18.000 In a lot of states, it was legal.

00:05:20.000 They just had to sign a waiver saying that this person's my caregiver and now you can collect the ballot from them.

00:05:24.000 James O'Keefe uncovered that guy who was holding ballots.

00:05:27.000 It wasn't that there was anything outside the country, or, you know, the machines were flipping votes.

00:05:32.000 It was actually simple.

00:05:34.000 They used COVID lockdown to take everything away from everybody, to tell them endlessly nothing, but this is Trump's fault.

00:05:41.000 Then they knocked on their door and said, sign it.

00:05:44.000 And the people did, and they collected all those ballots, and Trump and the GOP never saw it coming.

00:05:49.000 And they're still using these practices in the midterms, and that's why the Republicans did not do better.

00:05:54.000 Well, now you see Trump talking about ballot harvesting and putting together, you know, the biggest mass ballot harvesting scenario we've ever seen in the country.

00:06:02.000 But is it going to happen?

00:06:03.000 But that's how you win elections.

00:06:05.000 And that's exactly what the left did.

00:06:06.000 They played it smart.

00:06:07.000 They used this, you know, man-made disease that was created in a lab intentionally to crash the economy and to screw Trump out of everything to quite literally, I mean, take back the power.

00:06:16.000 And they still are going to maintain that power.

00:06:18.000 Yeah, it wasn't COVID that did it, and I gotta be real clear about this.

00:06:21.000 It was the way they responded to COVID that is what did it. 0.99

00:06:25.000 COVID, fuck all. 1.00

00:06:27.000 It was some threat, random threat. 1.00

00:06:29.000 Could have been anything.

00:06:29.000 Could have been volcano, super volcano, aliens.

00:06:31.000 Climate change.

00:06:32.000 Climate change, could have been flooding, could have been COVID, could have been a virus.

00:06:34.000 It was a virus this time. 1.00

00:06:36.000 Fuckin' the way they shut shit down and started to move shit around. 1.00

00:06:39.000 Well, it's always a response. 1.00

00:06:40.000 Because people can take a virus, people can take certain things to an extent, but then when the response is overdue and they over-respond, that's when the tyranny comes and that's exactly what you saw with COVID.

00:06:51.000 The reason why they are going after Trump in this way is because they don't have COVID anymore.

00:06:55.000 They know that if it comes down to a standard election, Trump wins.

00:07:00.000 They have to do something to throw a wrench in the gears because COVID ain't there anymore.

00:07:06.000 Or aliens.

00:07:07.000 Well, that's what you see also with the UFO stuff.

00:07:09.000 And you see, you know, Project Blue being with the CIA documents and everything.

00:07:12.000 It's not hard to fake something like this.

00:07:14.000 It's just projections followed by some drone strikes.

00:07:16.000 But I don't think they're going to go down that route.

00:07:18.000 There's really no reason.

00:07:20.000 They can do something significantly different.

00:07:22.000 They could start a Russian force flag.

00:07:25.000 Start a world war to say, now is not the time to change presidents, we need consistent leadership.

00:07:30.000 However, Joe Biden's not inspiring anybody, so I don't know if that strategy would work for you.

00:07:34.000 Yeah, I don't think they're going to go that route.

00:07:35.000 You look at like serial killers, like all the psyops, right? 0.98

00:07:38.000 And how controlling people through fear has developed.

00:07:41.000 Serial killers don't scare people anymore, so then you move on to war, you move on to viruses, and it's always a never-ending evolving thing to the next scary thing.

00:07:49.000 You bring out the aliens, right?

00:07:50.000 What's more scary than, you know, space invaders essentially blowing up cities?

00:07:55.000 There's nothing.

00:07:56.000 What are you gonna use to control the power dynamic after that to make people fear things?

00:08:00.000 I think that's- Oh, I wanna- I wanna- I gotta- I gotta- I gotta address this because Deez Nuts says, this dude is denying that we have video evidence of these people processing the same ballot over and over, pulling ballots out from under tables, trucks pulling up to Staples Center at 3 a.m.

00:08:14.000 How dare I believe my lying eyes?

00:08:17.000 Deez Nuts, why don't you watch the full video from, what was it, the TCF Center?

00:08:22.000 Where they pulled the ballots out from under the tables.

00:08:24.000 Because I did!

00:08:25.000 Did you?

00:08:25.000 You didn't.

00:08:26.000 I know for a fact you didn't.

00:08:27.000 Because what you'd find is, they have empty boxes, they get ballots from people, put them in the boxes, close the boxes, put them under the table, later in the day, pull them out and start counting them.

00:08:36.000 Well, and I think Gateway Pundit is being sued for that story as well, by the lady that was seen pulling out the boxes.

00:08:42.000 I think she's filed a lawsuit against Gateway Pundit because of that article.

00:08:45.000 It's amazing to me that people have fallen for this stuff so easily.

00:08:48.000 Okay.

00:08:49.000 You need- This is why I'm always like, when it came to the Covington kids, and they were like, oh, they were- Look at this video, Tim, of this kid in the face of this Native American guy. 0.79

00:08:56.000 I was like, what is this?

00:08:57.000 And they're like, look what he's doing.

00:08:58.000 I'm like, what's he doing?

00:08:59.000 And they're like, he got in the face of this guy, and I'm like...

00:09:02.000 All I see is a video of two dudes standing in front of each other.

00:09:04.000 You gotta give me something more.

00:09:05.000 So what did I do?

00:09:06.000 I went through the full two hour livestream and I was like, look at this!

00:09:10.000 Native American guy went up to him! 0.98

00:09:12.000 So sure enough, during all this election shit, people are like, look Tim, there's a video of them pulling boxes out from under the table. 0.99

00:09:17.000 I said, where did those boxes come from? 0.98

00:09:19.000 If there's surveillance footage of them doing this, certainly there's surveillance footage all day, right?

00:09:23.000 Ding ding ding!

00:09:24.000 What did we find?

00:09:25.000 You watch them put the boxes under the table themselves and pull them out later.

00:09:29.000 Well, I feel like the right wing social media ecosystem is also, I mean, I'd say they're the biggest like perpetrators of.

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00:10:37.000 I mean, this narrative, right?

00:10:40.000 You know, compared to blaming COVID and the changing his laws and the mail-in ballots, because they just keep pushing it.

00:10:46.000 They know what's wrong, but they keep pushing it and keep pushing it and keep pushing it.

00:10:49.000 It's something I've been able to dodge.

00:10:51.000 Sorry, to respond to the running the ballots the multiple times, it's the same surveillance footage where a woman puts the ballots in, presses the button, then walks over, grabs them again, and puts them in again.

00:11:00.000 Now, Ian's argument here is correct.

00:11:02.000 We need to see the code to understand what running the ballots through twice will do.

00:11:07.000 The idea that you can take a ballot, which probably has an ID number on it or something, to differentiate it from other ballot signatures and all of that, and run it through a machine and the machine won't be like, error duplicate, to me is absurd.

00:11:20.000 The reason she may have run it through twice, for all we know, the machine said, read error, please reinsert.

00:11:25.000 And then everyone in the meeting was like, aha, that proves she was double counting ballots. 0.88

00:11:29.000 Can ballots be double counted?

00:11:30.000 I don't know.

00:11:31.000 There's no argument there.

00:11:32.000 This is the problem.

00:11:34.000 You do have video of trucks pulling up in the middle of the night with ballots, and the argument they made was, these are just mail-in ballots being delivered.

00:11:41.000 Why does it matter that it was three in the morning?

00:11:44.000 Seriously.

00:11:44.000 Now I'll tell you what is weird, when they blocked the view of the people when they were counting those votes.

00:11:48.000 There was bullshit, don't get me wrong.

00:11:49.000 But the reality is, signature verification wasn't being done properly, because a lot of it was ballot harvesting. 0.97

00:11:56.000 These are ballots from real people, they went to nursing homes, and they said sign it, and a lot of these people probably just forged bullshit or got them to sign bullshit, and that's why you get mismatching signatures. 0.76

00:12:07.000 Well, and the Beto campaign did that exact same thing. 0.95

00:12:08.000 I think Alex Rosen came out with a video.

00:12:10.000 He went knocking with the door knockers, and they were ballot harvesting. 1.00

00:12:14.000 And they were getting these elderly people that clearly weren't in the right mindset to vote for Beidou.

00:12:19.000 I mean, this is a this is a wide practice thing in the Democratic Party.

00:12:22.000 It's nothing new.

00:12:23.000 But to think the idea is that, you know, the whole election was completely stolen because of, you know, ballots being stuffed.

00:12:30.000 I mean, it's just wrong.

00:12:32.000 Yeah, there was absolutely irregularities and fraud to the extent that they say it is.

00:12:36.000 But I'll tell you this.

00:12:38.000 Arizona, I believe, actually was stolen.

00:12:40.000 Absolutely.

00:12:41.000 From Kerry Lake.

00:12:41.000 Yep.

00:12:42.000 The fact that, was it hundreds of printers printed the wrong size image on the wrong size paper?

00:12:48.000 There's no way that accidentally happened.

00:12:49.000 No.

00:12:49.000 Someone went and had to physically do that.

00:12:51.000 Yeah, well it's preset in the system.

00:12:52.000 You're set to print, the aspect ratio, the font, everything is preset because legally it has to be the same and all of a sudden it changes.

00:13:00.000 There's something going on.

00:13:01.000 There was no election in Arizona.

00:13:03.000 You can't say that in all of these districts people weren't able to vote and you had an election.

00:13:08.000 Katie Hobbs oversaw her own election without recusal.

00:13:10.000 So did Raffensperger.

00:13:11.000 And then won her own election. 0.99

00:13:13.000 What in the fuck kind of process is that? 0.99

00:13:15.000 I think a Republican did that as well, though, in Georgia. 1.00

00:13:17.000 Oh, fuck that shit. 1.00

00:13:19.000 Yeah, but it was in Georgia, but no one likes him either and no one trusts him. 1.00

00:13:22.000 Did he win?

00:13:23.000 He won his own election?

00:13:24.000 And they said he stole it from Stacey Abrams and she was the rightful governor. 1.00

00:13:27.000 Fucking dirty shit. 1.00

00:13:28.000 I love how, like, What they did in Georgia first, they're now mocking Cary Lake for. 1.00

00:13:33.000 Yep.

00:13:34.000 Like, Cary Lake is like, hey, it was stolen from me. 1.00

00:13:36.000 Katie Hobbs running her own shit. 1.00

00:13:37.000 And then they're like, haha, you're crazy. 1.00

00:13:39.000 Rewind three years or whatever. 0.54

00:13:40.000 And it's like Stacey Abrams screaming and crying, I'm the real governor!

00:13:43.000 Well, it's the thing, too, is you see when a new precedent is set by either party, the other party is eventually going to use it because you've already set that precedent.

00:13:53.000 So it doesn't matter what it is.

00:13:55.000 The other party is going to use it to their advantage because they're losing if they don't.

00:13:58.000 That's why I'm talking about like, uh, pardons, why I'm trying to go the ethical route, like just holistically ethical, because I swear anything that we do or anything that anyone tries to do to the other, we'll come back around to you.

00:14:11.000 It's that's how it works with the cycle.

00:14:12.000 You give them ideas with your own behavior, if they haven't thought of it yet already.

00:14:16.000 I wouldn't be surprised if in 2020 Michigan, for example, was completely fraudulent.

00:14:21.000 I'm not saying I have reason, I have evidence that it is, but the reason why I wouldn't be surprised is because Gretchen Whitmer is like, how do you say this? 0.97

00:14:30.000 A psychopathic, evil, malignant cancer on this nation. 0.97

00:14:34.000 She's the kind of person who absolutely would murder her own grandmother for three extra votes. 1.00

00:14:39.000 Oh yeah. 1.00

00:14:40.000 She's a disgusting, despicable human being, and she should be in prison. 1.00

00:14:43.000 I pulled this video up on YouTube called American Election Hacker Testifies, and it's Clinton Eugene Curtis testifying under oath at the U.S. 0.99

00:14:50.000 House Judiciary Members in Ohio that he built software to flip votes 51-49, and that if you didn't have the code, you wouldn't know that that's what the software's doing.

00:14:58.000 And then I remember George Bush won 51-49. 0.98

00:15:01.000 You know, a lot of these people win 51-49, like, come on, shit, it's not that fucking close. 0.96

00:15:04.000 That's why seeing the code is so important. 0.97

00:15:06.000 And I will not make that mistake of claiming that it's flipping votes because Dominion sued Mike Lindell.

00:15:06.000 So important.

00:15:12.000 I think they sued him.

00:15:13.000 Mike Lindell, Tucker, Fox.

00:15:15.000 Just for claiming without the evidence.

00:15:16.000 I don't have the evidence to claim it.

00:15:17.000 I highly suspect it. 0.99

00:15:19.000 I just don't have the fucking evidence because it's hidden on purpose. 0.99

00:15:22.000 If you don't have the evidence, you can't have the evidence. 0.99

00:15:24.000 That's the way the system's built.

00:15:25.000 Unless someone breaks in and steals it, which is highly unethical and illegal. 0.81

00:15:30.000 I don't know, but it just, it feels, this guy's testifying in fucking Congress that he built software that flips votes and yet we're still allowing that to be in private? 0.93

00:15:39.000 It's not enough for me. 0.88

00:15:40.000 Well and it used to be the left that talked about electric voting machines being fraudulent and potentially having problems and being exposed to hacking and then now all of a sudden it's the right talking about it and the left has complete denial.

00:15:51.000 2024 is going to be interesting because every single Trump supporter everywhere will film literally everything.

00:15:58.000 You're gonna have 50 people standing outside of every voting area filming every person everywhere.

00:16:02.000 The left will call it voter suppression.

00:16:05.000 Well, I remember when they, I think it happened in the Cary Lake election, you had people out there filming it, and they tried to say that, pull that exact same card.

00:16:13.000 If there's like an organization tactic where people could verify who they voted for and upload their footage, like if you could somehow... Livestream.

00:16:21.000 Yeah, you could livestream, if you can, I don't know if they'll let you take a camera into the thing, but if you can somehow prove, this is the button I pushed, and then you can prove that the system has you logged as voting for someone else, and you can like... People have already proven that.

00:16:34.000 So if you could have a massive organization of people coming together to prove it together on, like, a site or some sort of website or social network or something, you might be able to catalog... But to think that that site wouldn't be taken down by a malicious DOJ attack or something like that.

00:16:49.000 I mean, if they're doing this, they're not going to allow it to stay up.

00:16:52.000 Yeah, that would be a targeted piece of data, I imagine.

00:16:55.000 I mean, one of our sites, when I was working with an organization called Stop8.com, or about the J6 stuff, Just investigating going over the footage.

00:17:03.000 They started a news site specifically to put out new news and aggregate all the news and all the videos so people could go through it and watch it themselves to see, hey, this is BS.

00:17:12.000 This isn't what happened.

00:17:13.000 Was taken down within a week.

00:17:15.000 DDoS attack.

00:17:16.000 Oh.

00:17:16.000 And where was the DDoS attack from?

00:17:18.000 It was from Virginia.

00:17:19.000 So, you know, it says a lot.

00:17:20.000 There was something going on there.

00:17:22.000 But if you go and you are using these public servers, there's no way they're going to stay up.

00:17:26.000 They have access to all these.

00:17:27.000 There's back doors to everything.

00:17:30.000 I mean, you would probably know that with your development and minds and everything.

00:17:33.000 Backdoors exist on every website, especially with Google owning everything and the Windows.

00:17:38.000 I mean, the CIA, you've seen their documents when Assange released them, basically saying that Windows is created for the CIA to have backdoor access.

00:17:48.000 That's why.

00:17:49.000 And that's how all the internet is.

00:17:51.000 Maybe on a blockchain, some sort of immutable database, if you could store the data there, it would still get tweaked and moved and changed.

00:17:57.000 And then you'd have to be like, well, when did the block get changed?

00:17:59.000 Because it's a different than what it said three weeks.

00:18:01.000 So that would be a hell on earth to try and verify.

00:18:03.000 Then like, what's the front end code that's telling you what the block used to say and what it's saying now?

00:18:07.000 And can you trust that code?

00:18:09.000 And then it's the people really have to, if they don't know how to read the code, they've literally got to trust somebody to tell them that the code is right. 0.98

00:18:15.000 And that's a fucking problem too. 0.98

00:18:17.000 Code literacy. 0.99

00:18:18.000 Let's go to callers!

00:18:19.000 Let's pull in some callers here.

00:18:21.000 I would like to... I don't fear the old Burt.

00:18:26.000 I fear the current Burt, so... You're with us.

00:18:29.000 I like that you started doing callers.

00:18:31.000 Yeah.

00:18:32.000 You don't fear the old Burt?

00:18:33.000 Okay.

00:18:35.000 Yeah, so thank you for taking my call.

00:18:37.000 This is for the panel.

00:18:39.000 Do we think that the third indictment of Trump strengthens him like the others, or does it not widen the gap between DeSantis and Trump?

00:18:47.000 I think it strengthens him.

00:18:49.000 I'm pretty sure his prediction market's already going up.

00:18:52.000 But it's a procedural attack.

00:18:53.000 They're trying to remove him. 0.99

00:18:55.000 So it may make him do better in the polls, but they don't give a shit. 0.98

00:18:58.000 They're like, his name won't be on the ballot in all these states. 0.98

00:19:00.000 How can he win if he doesn't have Pennsylvania?

00:19:02.000 He sounded flustered in that response video because he barely talked about it at all.

00:19:06.000 He just gave like...

00:19:07.000 You know, what are they called?

00:19:08.000 Not allotropes, but just basically like, we're gonna do good, we're gonna win, keep doing your best, we'll get them.

00:19:13.000 Vivek's response was better.

00:19:14.000 Yeah, I agree.

00:19:15.000 Vivek actually talked about the USV Alvarez.

00:19:18.000 Which is what knowingly says that you're legally allowed to knowingly make inaccurate statements.

00:19:24.000 U.S.

00:19:24.000 v. Alvarez.

00:19:25.000 So that was nice that Vivek actually quoted Supreme Court law.

00:19:30.000 Yeah, and I mean, I agree with Tim is I don't think I mean, polls literally don't matter.

00:19:34.000 We've seen that time and time again.

00:19:35.000 He's going to skyrocket in the polls just like he does after every single indictment after the Mar-a-Lago raid because his supporters are loyal.

00:19:41.000 Tough question to answer because strengthened has a lot of meanings.

00:19:43.000 What do you think?

00:19:44.000 He's going to continue to garner more support.

00:19:46.000 But does that really matter when you have a corrupt DOJ coming after him full force?

00:19:50.000 Because in the end, they're the ones that decide how this is all going to go.

00:19:53.000 They hold everyone responsible.

00:19:55.000 Tough question to answer because strengthened has a lot of meanings.

00:20:02.000 What do you think?

00:20:04.000 What do you think, old Bert?

00:20:06.000 Fear of the old Bert.

00:20:08.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:20:09.000 No, I agree.

00:20:10.000 I think it will definitely strengthen him because all of the other indictments have seemed to have been nothing but positive for him.

00:20:19.000 So I don't see why this would be any different.

00:20:21.000 What do you think, Phil?

00:20:22.000 I don't know what you mean by strengthen.

00:20:28.000 If you're asking, is it going to make his numbers go up?

00:20:31.000 I don't think that there's a large segment of the population that the fourth indictment is the line, right?

00:20:41.000 Like I don't think that there's going to be a lot of people that are like, well, the first three, I wasn't on Trump's team, but this fourth one here, that's the, the, the straw.

00:20:49.000 Like, I don't think that that's a big number.

00:20:51.000 I think that it, it'll reinvigorate some of the people that are already on his, uh, um, you know on his on his side that are already his voters um

00:21:01.000 but i don't see it i don't see it moving the needle i think the people that hate him already are

00:21:06.000 gonna hate him i think the people that like him are gonna like him and it's gonna be a matt 0.69

00:21:09.000 it's gonna come down to like getting the vote so it's gonna come down to you know ballot harvesting

00:21:15.000 and can you produce enough ballots that say donald trump on them well and i i think it's it's weakening

00:21:21.000 him in the aspect of his character and of his motivation and who he is as a person because you

00:21:26.000 see his first statement with the mar-a-lago raid you see his second statement with the

00:21:30.000 second indictment and now i mean you saw that last uh statement

00:21:33.000 Low energy, I mean, you look like... Vivek clearly had a better response there.

00:21:37.000 So it seems like he's just... They're battering him, and that's the entire point of this.

00:21:41.000 They're supposed to make it hurt.

00:21:43.000 They're coming after him, they're coming after his family, all his belongings, everything he loves and has worked his whole life for, and that's gonna wear you down over time, and it seems like it is wearing him down, which is understandable.

00:21:53.000 How's that?

00:21:54.000 Uh, how'd you like those answers?

00:21:57.000 Yeah, no, that was great.

00:21:58.000 Um, so it kind of sounds like, uh, he, he's kind of reached like his, uh, his ceiling of like indictments basically.

00:22:05.000 Like, uh, approval ceiling or whatever.

00:22:09.000 Like how much more of a victim can he become to get even more?

00:22:12.000 I think, yeah, I think his victim card has been played.

00:22:14.000 Yeah.

00:22:15.000 Unless there's a, unless there's a mug shot, you know, then, or a perp walk, then I think that could help, but it could also hurt him.

00:22:20.000 But who?

00:22:21.000 Like, that's the thing is I'm trying to figure out who the voter is that sees the perp walk and says, that's it.

00:22:29.000 Or who's the voter?

00:22:31.000 Like, who's the person that's informed enough that knows about the backstory and stuff like that, that hasn't already made up their mind?

00:22:39.000 And it could have a counter effect.

00:22:40.000 It could turn people off as well.

00:22:41.000 Could turn independents off seeing their, you know, I mean, their president in cuffs.

00:22:45.000 So you never know really which way it goes until it happens.

00:22:48.000 Yeah, they could see that, and then they'd be under the impression that, oh, well, you know, the judicial system and everything works still, and this is, like, legally correct.

00:22:57.000 And even though, you know, we would say, we would, you know, throw caution to that, but people could look at that and say, oh, well, you know, obviously, if he's in cuffs and he's under arrest, then he has to be guilty.

00:23:08.000 That's how a lot of people's mind works, unfortunately.

00:23:10.000 Consider a possibility.

00:23:12.000 Donald Trump gets criminally charged and imprisoned, resulting in widespread riots and protests throughout the United States.

00:23:20.000 It wouldn't take the same shape as what we saw with the far left in Antifa and Black Lives Matter, because Trump supporters tend to be in more suburban and rural areas.

00:23:28.000 But you'd see road blockades, armed groups guarding their neighborhoods.

00:23:33.000 Widespread economic shutdown.

00:23:34.000 Yeah, people pulling their money out of bank accounts.

00:23:36.000 Eight days goes by, the economy is in freefall, banks have shut down, people aren't working, and the military intervenes by arresting Joe Biden and then pulling Trump out of prison and holding an emergency referendum of some sort to try and restore democratic order.

00:23:51.000 A lot of people are probably gonna say, that's insane, that could never happen.

00:23:54.000 I'm only saying that because it's happened in multiple countries where there's been revolution and civil war.

00:23:58.000 The people think the government can't fall, it won't fall, there's a king, there's a queen, and then something happens where there's widespread unrest leading to mass economic crisis, and then ultimately someone says, we gotta do something about this.

00:24:11.000 The example I'm giving you is much more akin to what happened in Egypt, but I'm literally reading about the Spanish Civil War and the Soviet February Revolution, and there's so many similarities.

00:24:20.000 But in Egypt, it was interesting.

00:24:22.000 There were protests in Tahrir Square, and the country was basically economically stagnant.

00:24:28.000 This was putting their national security at risk.

00:24:30.000 The protests were getting out of hand, and then eventually the military said, that's it.

00:24:34.000 We're intervening.

00:24:35.000 We're taking the president out of power.

00:24:37.000 And they did.

00:24:38.000 And that was, I think it was Mubarak.

00:24:40.000 And then a year later, when the Muslim Brotherhood won the elections, the protests restarted and the military immediately said, that's it, we're taking him out of power. 0.83

00:24:49.000 So people think they can't happen in the United States, but it depends on the level of turmoil that ensues if Donald Trump gets criminally charged and it causes economic collapse or market collapse.

00:25:02.000 So here's what I think is more likely.

00:25:03.000 Not that Trump supporters waving MAGA flags go marching the streets.

00:25:07.000 What's more likely is that Donald Trump's indictment causes a shock to the market, Which causes institutions, corporations, pensions, 401ks, to collapse in value.

00:25:17.000 All of a sudden, people who are in their late 40s are screaming they have no money left for retirement, and they're demanding to know what the fuck happened to their money and why.

00:25:25.000 Now the price of food is skyrocketing.

00:25:27.000 Now people can't get water, can't get clothing, can't get food for their kids.

00:25:31.000 Now they're marching in the streets, smashing things, and it ain't BLM or Antifa. 0.70

00:25:34.000 The protests go widespread, military intervenes, Who knows what happens after that.

00:25:39.000 I could see, like, if there was economic fallout and all these people were like, I'm protesting the United States, I'm taking my money out of U.S.

00:25:45.000 banks, I'm keeping cash.

00:25:46.000 If, like, tens of millions of people did that, cause disruption and collapse of the banking establishment, that they would rush CBDCs into power and be like, you cannot, cash is no longer, you can't use cash anymore.

00:25:57.000 You can only use our central bank token.

00:25:59.000 Sign up.

00:26:00.000 Let me read just one thing for you. 1.00

00:26:00.000 Or die. 1.00

00:26:02.000 The 19th century was a turbulent time for Spain.

00:26:04.000 Those in favor of reforming the Spanish government vied for political power with conservatives who intended to prevent such reforms from being implemented.

00:26:11.000 In a tradition that started with the Spanish Constitution of 1812, many liberals sought to curtail the authority of the Spanish monarchy, as well as to establish a nation-state under their ideology and philosophy.

00:26:22.000 The reforms of 1812 were short-lived, as they were almost immediately overturned by King Ferdinand VII when he dissolved the aforementioned constitution.

00:26:29.000 Let's rewind.

00:26:31.000 The 21st century was a turbulent time for the United States.

00:26:33.000 Those in favor of reforming the U.S.

00:26:35.000 government vied for political power with conservatives who intended to prevent such reforms from being implemented, in a tradition with a constitution that started in the early days of the American Constitutional Republic.

00:26:44.000 Many liberals sought to curtail the authority of the executive branch and the U.S.

00:26:48.000 government, and to establish a nation-state under their ideology and philosophy.

00:26:52.000 Sounds like if you flip liberal-conservative, you've got the exact same situation.

00:26:55.000 You don't need to flip liberal-conservative.

00:26:57.000 You quite literally read it in the context of today and identical. 0.99

00:27:00.000 Conservatives are saying we have a constitution, you can't just override it, and the left is saying fuck your constitution. 0.66

00:27:05.000 A lot of people have been pointing out for the past 10 years that we are on track for this in exactly the same way as the Spanish Civil War. 0.97

00:27:11.000 And I was saying the similarities are right there.

00:27:14.000 The Republicans are obsessed with breaking up the CIA and the FBI. 0.99

00:27:18.000 So that was where they were like, get this, fuck the federal government. 0.99

00:27:20.000 But it's the far left that wants to destroy the U.S. 1.00

00:27:22.000 government.

00:27:23.000 I think that you could cut the bureaucracy, slice it by, you know, I believe Vivek knows what he's talking about.

00:27:23.000 With communism, seemingly.

00:27:23.000 I do.

00:27:27.000 maintain, or the conservatives are trying to maintain the Constitution in the

00:27:30.000 US tradition. I do, I think that you could cut the bureaucracy, slice it by, you

00:27:35.000 know, I believe Vivek knows what he's talking about. It would create a lot of

00:27:38.000 unemployment, but that you could slice it up and jobs and still...

00:27:42.000 There was little development of a bourgeois industrial or commercial class.

00:27:45.000 Let me read this. Until the 1850s, the economy of Spain was primarily based on agriculture.

00:27:49.000 There was little development of a bourgeois industrial or commercial class. Rewind that and

00:27:53.000 say until the 19... until the 2000s, the economy of the United States was primarily based on

00:27:58.000 manufacturing and labor, but it eventually shifted into a service sector economy and

00:28:03.000 then an influence economy, etc, etc.

00:28:05.000 The rapid changing system of economics is playing a huge role in this.

00:28:10.000 People who once held political power or just general status by being able to support their families through physical labor and manufacturing are now competing with influencer economies and the service sector.

00:28:21.000 Yeah, thank you.

00:28:22.000 Last thing I just want to say is I still have that taco ball you gave me in D.C.

00:28:25.000 We should jump to our next caller. We should indeed. There's other governments that are involved in this. Fear the old

00:28:31.000 Thank you for calling in sir. Thanks, man.

00:28:31.000 bird.

00:28:33.000 Yeah, thank you. Last thing I just want to say is I still have that taco ball you gave me in DC in February.

00:28:39.000 Ha! 0.89

00:28:40.000 Taco ball!

00:28:41.000 Yeah, we were skating.

00:28:42.000 That was fun.

00:28:43.000 What's a taco ball?

00:28:44.000 It's a... It was like a beach ball.

00:28:45.000 It had tacos on it.

00:28:47.000 Oh, nice!

00:28:49.000 Let's talk to Maximus next.

00:28:51.000 Maximus, how are you?

00:28:51.000 Maximus.

00:28:53.000 Hey, what's going on, guys?

00:28:54.000 Sorry, sir.

00:28:55.000 Did I cut you off there?

00:28:56.000 Doing well.

00:28:56.000 No, you're alright.

00:28:58.000 Hey, thanks for taking my call tonight.

00:29:00.000 Just a little pretext to my question.

00:29:03.000 Formerly hated Donald Trump until 2020, watching what happened with COVID, BLM riots, and then the 2020 election.

00:29:10.000 I did not vote in 2020.

00:29:12.000 I didn't really pay attention to politics then.

00:29:16.000 But after watching the fallout of that, Early in the show, Tim, you had said that 2024, you were laughing as Roseanne said there won't be an election, and then you said we'll have the illusion of an election, such as, you know, ballots, you'll go vote, things like that.

00:29:31.000 My question is, how is that any different than what happened in 2020?

00:29:34.000 Yeah, perhaps.

00:29:39.000 You're right.

00:29:39.000 The only difference, I suppose, will be the degree to which people respond negatively to 2024.

00:29:43.000 Yeah, I felt like that happened in 2022.

00:29:45.000 Yeah, I would agree there.

00:29:46.000 I mean, 2024, I think it'll just get intense, the response to it.

00:29:50.000 Because it's two elections in a row that they feel like they were robbed out of again.

00:29:53.000 But I should say, Donald Trump was running, and you could vote for him.

00:29:57.000 And the Democrats just played dirty.

00:29:59.000 So, you could argue that was, like, a crack in the machine of our already busted and fake elections as it is.

00:30:05.000 2024, I'm saying, like, you can't even vote for Trump.

00:30:08.000 How is it an election, then?

00:30:12.000 Agreed, agreed.

00:30:13.000 And to a point, also, 2016 was similar in that fashion, just reversed with the Democrat Party denying the election as well.

00:30:21.000 So, I agree that it's just going to continue to get worse and worse until we hit this breaking point.

00:30:27.000 So it's unfortunate that nobody has confidence in our elections.

00:30:31.000 And I know that we've always talked about what we can do to restore confidence in that.

00:30:36.000 But I appreciate you taking my call.

00:30:38.000 One last thing I wanted to add on to the civics test for the right to vote or selective service to right to vote.

00:30:45.000 I also think you should be a net positive taxpayer.

00:30:48.000 I think that's really important as well.

00:30:49.000 Thank you guys so much.

00:30:52.000 I don't have, like, no hope for the election system.

00:30:55.000 I have low amounts of it because of this behind-the-scenes tallying shit, but when Hillary Clinton got beat by Donald Trump, like, they screwed Bernie out. 0.96

00:31:02.000 And then I was like, okay, well, they're just gonna set the election for Hillary. 1.00

00:31:06.000 For sure, Hillary's gonna win because they screwed Bernie. 1.00

00:31:08.000 That's what the plan is.

00:31:09.000 Good night.

00:31:09.000 Goodbye, everyone.

00:31:10.000 I went to bed, I woke up, like, Trump fucking won like a gut punch. 0.99

00:31:13.000 So something's going on where we still have control, and I think the illusion that we have no control is how we will lose. 0.99

00:31:18.000 So you gotta maintain belief.

00:31:20.000 But don't expect it.

00:31:21.000 Don't expect it to go your way.

00:31:22.000 They want you to think you can't win so that you don't vote.

00:31:24.000 Exactly.

00:31:25.000 Yeah, they want you to be blackmailed.

00:31:26.000 Don't let them do that.

00:31:28.000 Alright.

00:31:29.000 Alright, let's talk to Olivia Claire.

00:31:31.000 How are you?

00:31:31.000 I wonder what rank you are in Bert's army now.

00:31:34.000 Hi!

00:31:35.000 I think I'm still VP.

00:31:36.000 I think.

00:31:36.000 Who's this?

00:31:37.000 I don't know entirely.

00:31:38.000 Olivia Claire.

00:31:39.000 Thanks for taking my call, guys. 1.00

00:31:41.000 First thing I want to say about Michigan is fuck Gretchen Whitmer. 1.00

00:31:45.000 Just want to get that one out there first. 0.99

00:31:48.000 But my question is for Taylor or anyone else that may have an answer.

00:31:53.000 Taylor, thanks for sharing my footage from the Kalamazoo Michigan Drag Show back in May.

00:31:58.000 I really appreciated that.

00:32:01.000 How can independent journalists get started when you at first, you know, can't rely on an income because it's not Feasible at that moment.

00:32:09.000 What's your best advice on getting started when you don't have that steady income?

00:32:12.000 You're going to have to suffer through it.

00:32:14.000 That's part of climbing the cringe mountain that I referred to earlier.

00:32:16.000 I mean, even now, I don't have a full time income.

00:32:19.000 You know, when I do this, I travel the country.

00:32:21.000 I go to shows.

00:32:22.000 I still work for, you know, I contract for news companies and I still have a side job with this.

00:32:26.000 So it's a constant grind, but eventually it will pay off, especially as you continue to do this.

00:32:32.000 I was full time in 2020 and then after 2021 with January 6th, It basically, all my income was cut because I had a lot of federal donors within the DOJ and Department of Homeland Security that supported my work with the riots.

00:32:44.000 And after that, I mean, all of that funding just essentially disappeared.

00:32:48.000 So really, it's just grinding it out, crowdfunding people that support your cause and support your journalism.

00:32:54.000 That's the biggest thing that I failed to do is monetize via crowdfunding because I feel guilty almost asking my audience for money, which you shouldn't.

00:33:01.000 You really should not.

00:33:02.000 I would go film things and say, hey, if you want to keep me doing this, go here and donate money.

00:33:06.000 Yeah, but that's the biggest way is crowdfunding.

00:33:08.000 And I've seen your work.

00:33:09.000 You do amazing work.

00:33:10.000 And of course, I'm going to share it because you're helping expose the problem that I'm passionate about.

00:33:15.000 So thank you for going to that drag show and sitting through it.

00:33:17.000 I remember speaking to you about it and the repercussions mentally.

00:33:21.000 They will stick around, of course, but you just got to keep grinding it out because you've got a lot of potential and you can do anything you want.

00:33:28.000 What's your X handle?

00:33:30.000 Oh, you mean Twitter?

00:33:30.000 Mine?

00:33:31.000 No, um, it's, um, add Olivia Clare with three A's and Olivia and two E's in Clare.

00:33:39.000 Three A's?

00:33:40.000 Looking it up now.

00:33:41.000 Yeah, Taylor, you're gonna get your Twitter, uh... So three A's and then Clare with three A's?

00:33:44.000 No, with two E's.

00:33:45.000 No, just Olivia, three A's, and then Clare, two E's at the end. 0.82

00:33:49.000 Oh, there it is.

00:33:51.000 Are you, you're posting stuff on, uh... Oh, cool, yeah, I'll follow you.

00:33:55.000 Thanks, yeah.

00:33:57.000 I think the craziest part of that was the aftermath.

00:34:00.000 We found out that one of the quote-unquote performers was posting straight sodomy on their Twitter profile and connected themselves to this event.

00:34:08.000 That's a constant reoccurrence, too.

00:34:10.000 You see this over and over again. 0.99

00:34:11.000 They're pedophiles. 0.96

00:34:12.000 They've been charged with touching children. 1.00

00:34:14.000 They're ex-sex workers or constant sex workers. 1.00

00:34:17.000 They're drug addicts. 0.99

00:34:19.000 I mean, these are the lowest of the lowest people that resort to these things. 1.00

00:34:22.000 I mean, you don't have any morals if you're shaking your penis in front of kids. 0.99

00:34:25.000 That's the easiest way to put it. 1.00

00:34:26.000 What?

00:34:26.000 No way.

00:34:27.000 Bad morals. 1.00

00:34:27.000 Crazy. 1.00

00:34:29.000 I can say this.

00:34:30.000 One strategy is to become a member at TimCast.com, submit a question, have me follow you, and then when you cover the news, if I see it, I'll retweet it.

00:34:36.000 Hey, I'm a member, Tim.

00:34:37.000 Where's my follow?

00:34:39.000 Yeah, I'm like, I want to pay you money, but I like your independence.

00:34:45.000 It's one of your most valuable attributes.

00:34:47.000 Oh yeah, absolutely, man.

00:34:48.000 You know, like I do this because I'm passionate about it and because I want to make a change.

00:34:48.000 Well, and I love it.

00:34:52.000 If I'm not making money, yeah, it sucks.

00:34:54.000 You know, I support my girlfriend at home and my dogs and the house and everything, but I'm going to make that money anyways.

00:34:59.000 I don't care how I make it as long as I can continue changing people's lives and inspiring people.

00:35:04.000 That's all that matters about this.

00:35:05.000 You're doing your Twitter subscriptions, but you said you're still in the waiting process?

00:35:08.000 Yeah, it's glitched out or something.

00:35:10.000 I don't know.

00:35:10.000 Twitter hasn't given it to me.

00:35:11.000 Sooner than later, yeah.

00:35:12.000 But when they do, hopefully, that'll start generating some. 0.99

00:35:13.000 That's the good shit. 0.99

00:35:14.000 What will you put? 0.99

00:35:15.000 Oh, are you going to put workout stuff?

00:35:16.000 Yeah, that'll be more fitness, bodybuilding-oriented, just because I don't want to post that all over Twitter, right?

00:35:23.000 It's for journalism, but my subscribers can see that.

00:35:25.000 It looks good, but yeah.

00:35:28.000 Like I said, I don't like asking for money, but you need to in this industry.

00:35:31.000 You have to.

00:35:32.000 And people are so generous on the right, they will give you money.

00:35:35.000 That's the reality of this.

00:35:37.000 If they support what you're doing, which they're going to support what you're doing, they're going to give you money.

00:35:41.000 You just can't be scared to ask like I have been.

00:35:43.000 Yeah, that's a big thing.

00:35:44.000 And everything.

00:35:45.000 If you don't ask, it'll never happen.

00:35:46.000 Yeah, it's amazing in social media how when you ask someone to click the like button, they're way more likely to just remember or ask them to subscribe to your channel.

00:35:54.000 They're way more likely.

00:35:56.000 I am too.

00:35:57.000 I am.

00:35:57.000 But yeah, Claire, thank you.

00:35:58.000 You are freaking awesome.

00:36:00.000 And I appreciate you going and covering that show.

00:36:01.000 And if you cover anything in the future, send it to me and I'll share it out.

00:36:05.000 Yeah, I'm working on that.

00:36:06.000 Thank you guys so much.

00:36:08.000 Anytime.

00:36:10.000 All right.

00:36:10.000 Last but not least, we've got RJ McDouglehime US.

00:36:17.000 How are you this evening?

00:36:18.000 Hope you're well.

00:36:19.000 All right.

00:36:19.000 How are you guys doing?

00:36:20.000 Thank you very much.

00:36:21.000 All right.

00:36:23.000 This is a good conversation you guys had earlier.

00:36:25.000 So this is probably going to pile on top of that.

00:36:27.000 But is this mostly for Ian? 0.90

00:36:30.000 Uh, especially with everything you guys talked about earlier in the after show, uh, you know, all the corruption with the elections and everything, all that bullshit that's been going on.

00:36:39.000 How can you keep saying that you don't want to go tit for tat as far as, like, retaliation goes and you want pardons, when the main reason we're in this mess is because people with power haven't had consequences?

00:36:49.000 Oh, sorry.

00:36:50.000 Continue.

00:36:51.000 Like, you know, you look at, like, Maxine Waters, you know, she incited people to do stuff. 1.00

00:36:55.000 No consequences.

00:36:56.000 All the investigations and everything that's going on with Trump right now.

00:36:59.000 Like, how do you expect it to stop unless they're held accountable?

00:37:02.000 Well, I look at it like a game board, kind of, and I'm like, alright, some moves are impossible.

00:37:07.000 Some moves you can't do.

00:37:08.000 Like, you can't use the political system to defeat political opponents.

00:37:12.000 So that's the route I'm looking at.

00:37:14.000 Oh, you mean the judicial system?

00:37:17.000 I would also agree with that.

00:37:18.000 You can't use the judicial system to defeat political opponents.

00:37:21.000 You might be able to.

00:37:22.000 I don't think you can in reality.

00:37:23.000 You should use the political system.

00:37:24.000 That's what they tell you you can do, but you can't really do it.

00:37:27.000 They control it.

00:37:29.000 So you can't, I don't want to go, I just won't try a method that I don't think can work.

00:37:34.000 So I'm looking for creative ways to bring things together, have Joe Biden and Trump sit down and talk, you know, like step forward so we can kind of look at like preserving our species.

00:37:44.000 And the pardon thing is just, I guess it's one way to do it.

00:37:48.000 I don't necessarily need to hit the hammer so hard, but it's nice to have Vivek in the room and ask him about it face-to-face, and to kind of put that out into the ethos, kind of an air of forgiveness.

00:37:58.000 And you know, I'm obsessed with the Christ, the return of Christ, and if we really could make that happen.

00:38:03.000 Christ will come when Christ is ready, when humans are ready to receive him. 0.74

00:38:07.000 So if we could present an air of forgiveness and kindness, maybe that will step on the gas.

00:38:14.000 See, I agree with that, but at the same time, we've tried this over and over again, the gentle side, that's what the right is right there.

00:38:20.000 The party of defense, that's why I got into politics and activism before journalism, because I wanted to make a difference, I wanted to go on the offensive.

00:38:27.000 You have to fight fire with fire.

00:38:29.000 When it's gone this far I feel like there's no other way because if you're not you're gonna get burnt and that's exactly what I feel like is happening at least the past few years and now you're starting to see the right engaging culture and that's the fire I'm talking about especially as the culture war is far more important than any political war I think because the culture is what indirectly and directly changes people's minds regarding politics even if they don't realize That would be an example of fighting fire with water, not with a non-fire substance, because you're using a non-political solution to solve the political problem.

00:38:59.000 Yeah, I can understand that.

00:39:00.000 I mean, I guess you can make a point of, you know, fighting fire with fire doesn't work to the extent of, look at January 6th compared to the 2020 riots, right?

00:39:07.000 That was fighting fire with fire.

00:39:08.000 But to the same extent, you need a little bit of that fire inside of you because you're going to get rolled over If they don't have morals when they're going about and they're prosecuting these J6ers, they're throwing these people in prison. 1.00

00:39:21.000 I know Daniel Goodwin, he's autistic, he's amazingly smart.

00:39:24.000 All he did on January 6th was he dropped an American flag over the inauguration stage.

00:39:30.000 And he was pictured in a video in the background of Baked Alaska's video.

00:39:33.000 And he just went back to prison.

00:39:35.000 And this is an autistic kid who is genuinely an amazing person, but they're throwing the book at him. 0.91

00:39:41.000 I mean, because these people don't care.

00:39:42.000 They want to destroy you.

00:39:44.000 They want to destroy your way of life.

00:39:45.000 So you almost have to have that same mindset, I feel like, but in a godly way, in a righteous way.

00:39:49.000 You read the Bible, God killed millions of people, right?

00:39:53.000 But it was righteous.

00:39:54.000 And I'm not advocating to kill people, obviously.

00:39:57.000 But you have to fight the righteous war.

00:39:59.000 You have to know that God is on your side.

00:40:01.000 And in this, it's very self-evident whose side God is on, right?

00:40:04.000 I'm a big fan of the meek. 0.96

00:40:06.000 I think they said the meek shall inherit the earth. 1.00

00:40:08.000 And the meek, I used to think, oh, that means that they're weak. 1.00

00:40:11.000 No, it's the people that are strong, but have restraint.

00:40:14.000 Exactly.

00:40:15.000 And so I want that people to fear me in that way, to know that I have the power to arrest them, but not, you know, so I agree with you.

00:40:23.000 You need that threat, I guess, of force available to you, but at the same time, choose the peaceful.

00:40:28.000 You don't want to, you have to use that force.

00:40:30.000 You just want it to linger and to have people think that it really exists when in reality, it's just the idea of that force that keeps people in line.

00:40:37.000 It's just a control aspect.

00:40:38.000 And I guess that would be an argument as to why you would punish someone like Joe Biden for doing all these crimes with his son.

00:40:43.000 It's because you want to preserve the essence of force or the projection of force.

00:40:47.000 It has to remain that there will be consequences of your actions.

00:40:50.000 If you do something like this, if you FAFO, that's where it applies, I think. 1.00

00:40:53.000 Fuck around and find out. 1.00

00:40:55.000 Yeah, he definitely will. 1.00

00:40:59.000 Oh man, it really feels like that going after these political people with the law is not the way.

00:41:08.000 It feels like it's the wrong way.

00:41:09.000 It is the way.

00:41:10.000 It is literally the only way.

00:41:12.000 It's like trying to go after Kim Jong-un with his own military.

00:41:16.000 The only thing we have is the law.

00:41:19.000 No, they have like personal force, you know force of will force of you and I could go build a house together We have the force the power, but if you're using this personal force, it's gonna be labeled as you're committing terrorism That's the reality.

00:41:33.000 I mean we don't carry it out.

00:41:34.000 We can build a road for someone and I mean I feel like there's a disconnect.

00:41:40.000 You talk about wanting a lot of things and I'm not sure that the goals are attainable through the methods that you're talking about.

00:41:53.000 So I'm not sure what, like you mentioned earlier, Donald Trump and Joe Biden sitting down and talking.

00:42:00.000 What does that do?

00:42:01.000 Because Donald Trump is not in a position of the power at all.

00:42:05.000 He's a former president.

00:42:07.000 And Joe Biden has no incentive to work, to do anything that Donald Trump wants.

00:42:12.000 The Democrats are entirely incentivized to be... To destroy him.

00:42:16.000 Yeah, against not just Donald Trump, but anything that anyone outside of the Democrat Party brings up.

00:42:23.000 And the Republicans are the same.

00:42:24.000 I'm not sure what the...

00:42:26.000 I'm not sure what the goal of having them sit down and talk is.

00:42:31.000 Like the direct goal.

00:42:32.000 I think to highlight the humanity of the individuals, the two of them. 0.98

00:42:35.000 Because I think nobody is a fucking robot sometimes. 0.96

00:42:36.000 I don't think there is any humanity. 0.99

00:42:38.000 That's the thing.

00:42:38.000 That's the problem.

00:42:39.000 That's what I want to solve.

00:42:39.000 Because if you really believe that there's no humanity in the humans, I want to show you that there is.

00:42:44.000 There is, but I don't think in the DOJ and the Biden administration.

00:42:48.000 I think they lack humanity and that's why they're doing exactly what they're doing.

00:42:51.000 It feels like it.

00:42:52.000 It feels very robotic and foreign, but I know people, like everyone I talk to, when you look in their eyes and you listen to them, they're all human.

00:42:59.000 Like they're all up there pretty much.

00:43:02.000 And even crazy people are still there partly, but they're not, you know, they have issues, they look away, they flick their eyes and shit, but they're still there. 0.98

00:43:08.000 Vertical blinking. 0.98

00:43:09.000 So here's the things we should watch out for.

00:43:11.000 I'm just kidding.

00:43:12.000 If the Democrats use January 6th to pass any kind of laws.

00:43:16.000 Reichstag, yeah.

00:43:17.000 And I think they will.

00:43:19.000 I mean, you look at who benefits.

00:43:21.000 It's the national security apparatus.

00:43:21.000 Come on, guys.

00:43:23.000 They are the people who have benefited the most.

00:43:26.000 And this is exactly what happened after 9-11.

00:43:29.000 And they're gonna use it.

00:43:29.000 The exact same thing.

00:43:31.000 If we're tracking it all like Weimar Germany, then...

00:43:35.000 I would say that those willing to wield power are the ones who will win.

00:43:38.000 Yeah.

00:43:38.000 Which means the Democrats are going to crush, consolidate, and take over, and strip power away from their opponents.

00:43:44.000 Yeah.

00:43:45.000 What may happen is, you know, I'm reading all this, and this is like the span of a decade plus, if Trump does get elected but doesn't have Congress, which would be really weird to be completely honest, but if something happens where Democrats try to make move to enact laws outside of the presidency, what happened in Nazi Germany was Hitler was the chancellor, he didn't have presidential authority, so they passed a bill granting them the right to pass bills without the president.

00:44:13.000 Then when the president died, they passed a law taking all the powers of the president and giving it to Hitler. 0.94

00:44:17.000 And now we have the internet, so we see these stupid laws like this. 0.99

00:44:20.000 But it could happen faster now. 0.98

00:44:22.000 Yeah, you gotta keep vigilant about these laws that they try to pass and make a lot of noise about it.

00:44:27.000 Because in Weimar Germany, the population probably didn't even know that the bill was being passed until after it was signed.

00:44:31.000 But I think the important thing to realize, too, is we often talk about Spanish Civil War, the Bolshevik Revolution, Weimar Germany, etc.

00:44:38.000 They're all similar for obvious reasons.

00:44:40.000 Similar things lead to destabilization, revolution, and civil war.

00:44:45.000 So, it's like, wow, all these similar things are happening.

00:44:48.000 Well, yeah, these are the things that happened pre-revolution and civil war.

00:44:51.000 It won't be identical to what happened in these other places.

00:44:53.000 It'll have its own unique components.

00:44:55.000 But suffice it to say, everything we've seen so far tracks alongside all of these other revolutionary periods.

00:45:01.000 It's never going to be the exact same, but it's very similar.

00:45:03.000 In every revolution, they have almost the exact same tendencies, but something else will spark it.

00:45:08.000 So all that matters is, will people look back at this as the Marxist revolution in the United States, or will they call it the Second Civil War?

00:45:18.000 And, you know, I tweeted, you are in a civil war.

00:45:20.000 Libby Emmons quoted and said, do you believe this?

00:45:22.000 And some people said no, most people are saying yes.

00:45:25.000 And the real answer is, we won't know until it's over.

00:45:29.000 Did it break out in fighting between two factions, or did the right lay down, get steamrolled, and it was a revolution?

00:45:37.000 I have a feeling it'll be economic, a lot of it.

00:45:39.000 Well, they all are.

00:45:40.000 They're all economic.

00:45:41.000 When you start printing a hundred trillion, and then they're like, you got to get your USDC now, you need it.

00:45:46.000 That inflation is a component of what happens in Germany.

00:45:50.000 In Spain, people are protesting because they don't have food.

00:45:51.000 In Russia, people are protesting because they don't have food.

00:45:53.000 In Egypt, people are protesting because they don't have food.

00:45:56.000 It goes back to teaching kids how to farm.

00:45:58.000 That high school program, I'm telling you, that would be it.

00:46:01.000 Currently, there are efforts made by organizations like the World Trade Organization and the WEF and stuff like that, trying to advance the idea of degrowth, which is shrinking the population, shrinking economies, shrinking the consumption of resources, all because of global warming.

00:46:28.000 Degrowth equals is getting rid of human beings.

00:46:33.000 Well, look at the walkable cities that they're coming out with.

00:46:35.000 I mean, yeah, but the walkable cities are one thing, but the idea of degrowth is something that people need to keep their eyes open for, because what it is literally saying is, we need to have fewer people.

00:46:46.000 That means people die, and they limit births.

00:46:49.000 Abortion, obviously, is one of the ways that they'll limit births, but it's gonna be, it'll be like, you know, People, are you qualified to have children?

00:46:58.000 In the future they're going to be like, well, are they extremists?

00:47:01.000 Do they have the wrong opinions?

00:47:02.000 Do they have, you know, because that's what happens in China now. 0.84

00:47:05.000 You know, if you, they, they did the whole one child policy for, what was it, 30 years or something like that in China?

00:47:12.000 I actually think our destabilization and the downfall of America, we're going to start, I think, almost mirroring a lot of China's policies. 0.88

00:47:20.000 You know, it's not going to be a full-on genocide right out the bat, right?

00:47:23.000 You're going to have internment camps.

00:47:25.000 You're going to have work camps slowly popping up.

00:47:27.000 The denial that those exist, and then it just continues to escalate from there.

00:47:30.000 But it's not profitable, right, to kill the whole population at once.

00:47:34.000 They see us as cattle.

00:47:35.000 They see us as money.

00:47:36.000 That's how we've always been seen to the government and to these big organizations.

00:47:40.000 WEF and you know the Bill Clintons, I mean the Bill Gates of the world.

00:47:43.000 We are nothing but money to them and if they kill us all, how are they gonna make this money, right?

00:47:48.000 No, they need control and to slowly lower the population to a point of where the economy is also sized and they can still continue making money, the same kind of money off of a smaller population, but maintain even more control.

00:48:00.000 There are people that are that are concerned about Monetarily, but I really think that the people that are going to be driving the efforts to shrink the economy and shrink global output of economic activity and shrink consumption, those people are ideologues.

00:48:17.000 Those people actually want to see people die because they believe there are too many people on the planet.

00:48:22.000 And they believe the earth can only sustain, you know, a billion or 500 million or whatever.

00:48:28.000 They're Malthusians. 0.97

00:48:29.000 But they believe wholeheartedly that people need to die and that we need to limit the amount of people that are allowed to live on earth.

00:48:38.000 Is it that they want, when you say degrowth, do they want instead of a million new people every year, they want 500,000?

00:48:44.000 Or is it that they actually want a negative net growth and they want At first it'll be a huge negative net growth.

00:48:50.000 Less people every single year.

00:48:51.000 I should say net total.

00:48:52.000 You can go to the WEF.

00:48:53.000 You can go to the WEF's forums, World Economic Forum's website, and read all the papers that they have.

00:48:56.000 You're still growing.

00:48:58.000 You can go to the WEF's forums, World Economic Forum's website and read all the papers that

00:49:05.000 they have.

00:49:07.000 These aren't secrets.

00:49:09.000 This is not hidden information.

00:49:11.000 The only thing you have to do is put the effort in to go read it.

00:49:14.000 Anyone listening, this is not secret stuff.

00:49:17.000 This isn't esoteric.

00:49:18.000 There's no grain load.

00:49:20.000 You don't have to have a special decoder ring or anything.

00:49:23.000 All you need is an internet connection and go to the world.

00:49:26.000 And Schwab has detailed this stuff, too, in his books.

00:49:29.000 In The Fourth Industrial Revolution and The Great Reset, he talks about quite literally destroying the population and cutting it more than in half.

00:49:36.000 The Great Reset books. 0.91

00:49:38.000 It's crazy, and people that haven't read it, they should read it, because it's like, holy shit, they're literally telling you they're gonna genocide you for the betterment of them. 0.94

00:49:46.000 Dude, it's crazy how they say, like, oh, The Great Reset is, like, a conspiracy theory. 0.97

00:49:50.000 I'm like, it's literally a book.

00:49:51.000 A book that you can buy.

00:49:52.000 By the dude.

00:49:53.000 The dude we're talking about.

00:49:54.000 And you're telling me it's a conspiracy theory.

00:49:55.000 It's literally a book.

00:49:57.000 Well, it's the same thing with The Great Replacement, right?

00:49:59.000 One party can talk about it, it's real when they talk about it, but when the other side, the dissenters, talk about it, you're anti-Semitic, it's conspiracy, and you're racist.

00:50:06.000 Like, there's some value to social engineering.

00:50:09.000 No.

00:50:10.000 Well, because you want to, like, make sure the houses aren't downwind from the burn pits.

00:50:13.000 So, social engineering, you're making living, and you make industrial, and you make, we protect the rivers, so I understand kind of that, but it's a slippery slope.

00:50:21.000 You gotta be real careful with trying to control people's growth.

00:50:24.000 Did you guys know that after Germany lost the war, mass suicides erupted all over Germany?

00:50:29.000 Yes.

00:50:29.000 Because they didn't want to be caught by the Soviets, because the Soviets were like, we gotta... Soviets were not chill.

00:50:34.000 Those Soviets were rough. 1.00

00:50:37.000 They were not chill. 0.92

00:50:37.000 They were no better than the Nazis. 0.92

00:50:39.000 And a large component of what allowed Hitler to rise to power was preaching against communism.

00:50:44.000 Against the Bolsheviks, in particular.

00:50:46.000 Exactly.

00:50:46.000 Blame the Communists for the Reichstag fire.

00:50:48.000 I feel like the Japanese too aren't talked nearly.

00:50:51.000 I mean, how about how savage they were, the experiments that they were doing.

00:50:53.000 Unit 781 and stuff.

00:50:55.000 It is insane.

00:50:56.000 I mean, you would say it's on par and even exceeds some of the experiments

00:51:00.000 that Nazi Germany was doing at the time.

00:51:01.000 They would freeze people's, they would stick people's arms.

00:51:04.000 And break it off.

00:51:05.000 So that it would freeze in a refrigeration unit or outside and then shatter it with a hammer.

00:51:10.000 And this is all while they're alive too.

00:51:12.000 And awake.

00:51:12.000 And they dissect them while they're alive.

00:51:14.000 It's insane the stuff they would do.

00:51:16.000 When they're alive, it's called a vivisect.

00:51:17.000 It's crazy.

00:51:18.000 That's how we know all of our stuff about frostbite, et cetera, how we'll survive in cold water, et cetera.

00:51:23.000 We gave them clemency.

00:51:24.000 We quite literally said, hey, for this information, you guys can come chill in the US, which is exactly what we did with the Nazi scientists, too. 0.82

00:51:31.000 Paperclip, right.

00:51:32.000 And it's better that.

00:51:34.000 I think the idea was better that we take the information as opposed to all those people suffering to be in vain.

00:51:39.000 But it's still the brutal reality is that's where we got the information.

00:51:44.000 Yeah, exactly.

00:51:45.000 I think Taylor and Phil pretty much summed it up really good for me.

00:51:50.000 Ian, I love you bro.

00:51:51.000 question RJ McDugan. Yeah, you guys went off on that one.

00:51:55.000 Yeah, indeed. I think Taylor and Phil pretty much summed it up really good for me. Ian, I love you bro. Sometimes you

00:52:03.000 can be super frustrated. That's the point, dude.

00:52:07.000 I'm the wrench in the spokes.

00:52:09.000 He's the nuance to the show, right?

00:52:11.000 Of course, of course.

00:52:12.000 Yeah, I love you guys.

00:52:13.000 Thank you very much for taking my call.

00:52:14.000 Thanks for calling in, man.

00:52:15.000 Cheers.

00:52:15.000 All right, everybody.

00:52:16.000 Thanks for hanging out.

00:52:17.000 It's been a blast.

00:52:17.000 Taylor, thanks for hanging out.

00:52:18.000 Thanks for having me.

00:52:19.000 It's always a pleasure.

00:52:20.000 And for everybody who's a member, we're going to have a, this Friday, I'm just going to say it, I guess, it's Mo Dean and Alex Stein on the Culture War.

00:52:26.000 Oh, yeah.

00:52:27.000 And so we, like, you know, our security company is like, hey, we want to have someone around.

00:52:31.000 Time to bring the hot dogs.

00:52:32.000 I'm like, I don't think it's that big of a deal.

00:52:33.000 I think they're going to fight each other.

00:52:34.000 I don't know who Modine is.

00:52:36.000 I gotta take a look.

00:52:37.000 They will probably try and grab each other. 0.94

00:52:38.000 But considering they destroyed the stage, the concern isn't so much that they'll fight because they may be fooling around, but like, this table weighs a thousand pounds.

00:52:48.000 I could see them grabbing at each other and doing a dance.

00:52:52.000 It's the entertainment value.

00:52:53.000 But going too far.

00:52:54.000 It's Alex Stein and it's Modine.

00:52:56.000 It's gonna be wild.

00:52:57.000 Alright, everybody.

00:52:58.000 We have a poster we made for it, too, and the plan is to start putting up posters on Monday of, like, the personalities that are coming on, like we do with Vosh and Charlie Kirk.

00:53:06.000 Sweet.

00:53:06.000 So, alright, thanks for hanging out, everybody.

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