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00:00:29.000 Elon Musk has responded to the suspensions.

00:00:33.000 Mike Solana says, so far I've been able to confirm about half the accounts suspended posted links to the jet tracker thing in violation of the new doxing policy.

00:00:40.000 Unclear just yet about the rest, but I think it's safe to say the rule is for real.

00:00:44.000 Elon says, same doxing rules apply to journalists as to everyone else.

00:00:50.000 They posted my exact real-time location, basically assassination coordinates, in obvious direct violation of Twitter terms of service.

00:00:58.000 I agree with Elon.

00:00:59.000 Good job.

00:01:00.000 I'm sick of the doxing.

00:01:02.000 It is weaponization.

00:01:03.000 And the left agreed with this until he took over.

00:01:06.000 They said it was stochastic terrorism.

00:01:08.000 It was right-wingers saying, here's the address.

00:01:10.000 I hope no one hurts them.

00:01:12.000 They wouldn't shut it down?

00:01:13.000 Elon's shutting it down?

00:01:14.000 Good. 0.99

00:01:15.000 Good fucking riddance to these people who thought they were above the rules. 0.99

00:01:18.000 End of story. 1.00

00:01:19.000 I don't care.

00:01:19.000 These journalists have always thought they were above everyone else.

00:01:22.000 Let me tell you a story, because this one gets me fired up.

00:01:25.000 I'm in Ferguson.

00:01:27.000 Rioting!

00:01:28.000 Bricks, fire, all that stuff.

00:01:30.000 Eventually, things start calming down.

00:01:33.000 The police are sweeping the West Florissant Avenue and they're saying, disperse!

00:01:38.000 You must disperse!

00:01:40.000 Guess what?

00:01:41.000 The local residents and activists and protesters and rioters dispersed.

00:01:45.000 But there was still a large gaggle of about 30 reporters with cameras walking backwards very slowly taking pictures of the police MRAP or whatever.

00:01:55.000 And the police, so I see this and I go, guys, so my camera crew.

00:01:59.000 Over here, we cross the street, I say, film that. 0.99

00:02:02.000 30 journalists and no fucking protesters. 0.99

00:02:04.000 Right. 0.99

00:02:05.000 And the police go, media, we are talking to you!

00:02:09.000 You must disperse. 1.00

00:02:10.000 These motherfuckers were blocking a major road and they don't give a shit. 1.00

00:02:16.000 Of course. 1.00

00:02:17.000 Because they want to get that perfect picture of the police vehicle so they can frame their bullshit story and then claim the police cleared protesters when there were none. 0.93

00:02:25.000 I'm with you that I'm glad there's sort of an authoritarian crackdown on some of this dissent. 0.92

00:02:30.000 It's not authoritarian.

00:02:30.000 Well, Elon banning people is a form of it.

00:02:33.000 No, no, no, no, come on.

00:02:34.000 The thing is, we need it.

00:02:35.000 It's not authoritarian to be like, don't post people's addresses, and then they do, and they say, okay.

00:02:41.000 Well, what he did was he banned someone, and then he created a term of service after the fact to justify the banning.

00:02:46.000 I mean, that's dirty.

00:02:47.000 Technically, he didn't.

00:02:49.000 You weren't allowed to post people's locations.

00:02:51.000 He tolerated it until someone tried to kill his family and he said, guys, you can't post someone's location.

00:02:55.000 My point is I'm glad it's happening, whatever you want to call it, but I do think that there could be a tendency for the pendulum to come swinging back really hard on this and that I'm concerned with is like, Overly aggressive authoritarianism, purity kind of thing?

00:03:09.000 Well, you know, what you seem to be fearing is capricious enforcement of rules, you know, this arbitrary kind of dictatorial enforcement.

00:03:18.000 So then I think we have to look at what he is doing and say, OK, is what he's doing just or is it unjust?

00:03:23.000 And in this case, you know, they try to kill his family and it's bad for everybody.

00:03:26.000 And it's obvious.

00:03:27.000 I think it's quite just to get rid of the the doxxers.

00:03:31.000 But, you know, can I say something controversial?

00:03:34.000 I don't know.

00:03:35.000 No, I'm not on this show. 0.99

00:03:36.000 You actually like kicking babies. 0.96

00:03:38.000 I wasn't going to admit it on the real show. 0.90

00:03:41.000 I don't think the word authoritarian means anything.

00:03:45.000 I don't think it means anything.

00:03:47.000 You know, because we're all here saying, this is authoritarian.

00:03:49.000 No, this is authoritarian.

00:03:50.000 No, this is.

00:03:50.000 And I just think, yeah, the authority always exists and power is always exercised in political communities.

00:03:57.000 So what does it even mean?

00:03:58.000 So I'll clarify what I think of authoritarianism.

00:04:00.000 Authoritarianism is the arbitrary wielding of authority.

00:04:03.000 Okay.

00:04:04.000 So if Elon Musk said, you know what? 1.00

00:04:07.000 I plum just don't like you, motherfucker. 1.00

00:04:09.000 Ban. 1.00

00:04:09.000 I'd say that's authoritarianism. 1.00

00:04:11.000 If Elon says, I told you guys do not post my location.

00:04:16.000 You are now banned.

00:04:16.000 That's an exercise of authority.

00:04:19.000 You know, think about what is a good, free-loving society?

00:04:25.000 The opposite of, say, communist Uruguay, maybe, right?

00:04:30.000 It's very chill.

00:04:31.000 I hear it's a great place to start a business.

00:04:33.000 President Mojico was a little guy.

00:04:35.000 He wasn't super wealthy or whatever. 1.00

00:04:37.000 In the freest country, if you shit on the floor, you will be arrested. 0.99

00:04:42.000 Well, not in the United States, apparently. 0.99

00:04:43.000 Not in San Francisco.

00:04:46.000 But if you go into a nursery and punch a baby, it is not authoritarian that they arrest you.

00:04:53.000 Of course.

00:04:53.000 It is just the exercise of authority.

00:04:56.000 If you're walking outside a nursery, and you wave and say, what cute babies, and a cop goes, eh, fuck you, and punches you, and then arrests you, and then the machine says, we don't care about your rights, that's authoritarian, and we do have that problem here in the U.S. 1.00

00:05:10.000 Elon saying, you doxed me, motherfucker, you're banned, an exercise of authority. 1.00

00:05:15.000 Okay, good. 0.99

00:05:16.000 So it's definitely not the extreme.

00:05:18.000 Elon's not a very extreme guy from what I can tell, but I am concerned about the extreme.

00:05:23.000 We talked about it on the show earlier about, I don't know if we call them purity laws, but you were saying like morality laws.

00:05:28.000 I don't know.

00:05:29.000 Well, I think all laws are morality.

00:05:31.000 So, like, I'm concerned that because things have gotten so derogatory that someone like Kanye actually said to Gavin McInnes on his show a few weeks ago, we need to implement the Bible in the Constitution.

00:05:41.000 We need to bring the Bible to the Constitution.

00:05:43.000 Yes!

00:05:43.000 And I'm like, that's what the Nazis were trying to do.

00:05:45.000 They were trying to implement moral authority on the government.

00:05:48.000 No, but the Nazis were enemies of the church and persecuted the church.

00:05:51.000 So whatever the Nazis did, they weren't trying to enshrine the Bible.

00:05:53.000 The Catholic Church was, like, an enemy of Christianity. 0.87

00:05:56.000 It tried to—it, like, eradicated all the other Christians and then tried to, like, have the only one. 0.98

00:06:03.000 Let me read this.

00:06:05.000 Just to answer that.

00:06:07.000 The Catholic Church, you know, the One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church, the organization, the divinely instituted church that compiled the Bible, the scripture that we're talking about.

00:06:19.000 ...did not try to eradicate the Christians, the Catholic Church, instituted by our Lord and Savior, who gave the keys to the Kingdom of Heaven to St.

00:06:29.000 Peter and gave him the power to loose and to bind.

00:06:32.000 The Church has exercised her authority throughout the millennia to represent Christ on Earth through our Lord's Vicar and the Episcopacy and the Sacred Tradition and the Magisterium in... But what about the Catholic Church?

00:06:47.000 Hold on, that's a great point.

00:06:48.000 But I just need to point out... Yeah, thank God that the Cathars were destroyed.

00:06:52.000 They would have ruined civilization.

00:06:54.000 But see, this is all like... Okay, we're told this... Hold on.

00:06:57.000 The Cathars almost destroyed Christendom. 1.00

00:06:59.000 This is...

00:07:01.000 Deviating a bit too much.

00:07:02.000 Oh yeah, this is where I want to go.

00:07:03.000 I know.

00:07:04.000 I went there right away.

00:07:04.000 So I just need to point out, throughout the show, I have been sipping on a double shot of espresso with heavy cream.

00:07:10.000 My god, it is so delicious.

00:07:13.000 It is just pure ecstasy.

00:07:15.000 James Lindsay made an excellent point on this. 0.99

00:07:17.000 He says, so I tweeted just now, Fuck around and find out achieved. 1.00

00:07:21.000 Don't fuck with people's families. 1.00

00:07:23.000 He said leftists seem perfectly incapable of distinguishing between harassment and abuse and free speech, except Taylor Lorenz, who proved she knows what she's doing is wrong because she deleted her tweets. 0.99

00:07:33.000 What about her messages?

00:07:35.000 I mean, what all her messages are in Elon's hands now.

00:07:38.000 That's the DMs.

00:07:40.000 That's right.

00:07:40.000 Can't get rid of those.

00:07:41.000 I mean, everything she deleted is still on Twitter servers.

00:07:45.000 You know, she maybe just wants to hide it.

00:07:46.000 She must know that she's said crazy stuff.

00:07:48.000 Or maybe she thinks she'll get banned for something that she doesn't remember exactly when she typed it.

00:07:52.000 Yeah.

00:07:55.000 Okay.

00:07:55.000 Let's, uh, you guys down to talk about purity laws and the danger of purity laws.

00:07:58.000 What do you want?

00:07:59.000 I mean, to, to, you know, I, I do think we should, we can segue into, you mentioned, you know, Yay said we should put more Bible in the constitution.

00:08:07.000 I'm not a, uh, uh, I'll say it again.

00:08:10.000 It's really weird.

00:08:11.000 People, my detractors, On the right, we'll be like, Tim's an atheist.

00:08:15.000 And it's the weirdest thing because I've never said that.

00:08:18.000 And I've had deep arguments with people about the existence of God.

00:08:22.000 I'm just not, like, overly theistic in terms of Christianity or anything like that.

00:08:26.000 But, uh, I think the country needs religion.

00:08:29.000 Of course, and by the way, I mean, you know, of all the things that Kanye has ever said that one could take issue with, saying that our public life ought to be informed by the Bible, is like the most basic, obviously true thing he's ever said.

00:08:43.000 And I go back to someone like John Jay, who wrote, and this is a founding father,

00:08:48.000 saying, you know, thank goodness that our country is a country of Christians,

00:08:52.000 established by Christians, for Christians, on the basis of Christianity, right?

00:09:00.000 And you see this expressed even by the more liberal Founding Fathers and Framers, people like Thomas Jefferson, who phrase this differently, and in language that's a little more liberal or a little more Lockean, but it's the same thing.

00:09:12.000 I mean, the idea of natural rights come from the natural law, and the idea of the natural law exists objectively, but it was also articulated by the Church.

00:09:19.000 The traditional political order of the United States is national rather than imperial and is christian rather than liberal so i know it's a naughty phrase but it's a it's christian nationalism the one thing i always bring up is uh and this is a good example first i will stress i do not think that taking like every law say like leviticus and then saying like that is now the constant that no um i do think it's important to point out my favorite thing to harp on is that blackstone's formulation which eventually becomes benjamin franklin's

00:09:52.000 So, Blackstone says it is better that ten guilty persons escape than one innocent suffers.

00:09:57.000 Benjamin Franklin says it's better that a hundred guilty persons escape than one innocent person suffer.

00:10:01.000 Which is the basis for, I think, the Fifth and Sixth Amendments.

00:10:05.000 That our system of governance must provide for you a speedy trial, a jury of your peers, the right to confront your accusers, the right not to testify against yourself.

00:10:15.000 All of these are informed by the idea of protecting the innocent.

00:10:20.000 Over punishing the guilty, as more important, which is quite literally traced back to Blackstone being a Christian and knowing the story of Sodom and Gomorrah.

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00:11:35.000 I, growing up as this, like, urban liberal guy, believed in the Constitution, and I said, this is a free country, man, fuck you, I got free speech, I can say what I want. 0.98

00:11:42.000 Where did those rights come from? 0.98

00:11:44.000 I've heard these arguments where, you know, or these debates where people would say, you know, our rights are not granted by the government, they're created by God, and things like that.

00:11:51.000 And so when I get older, I start thinking about it.

00:11:54.000 And I'm like, why did the Founding Fathers decide these principles were the good ones, and then they failed to properly articulate the Second Amendment?

00:12:01.000 Maybe they didn't realize they needed to better articulate it.

00:12:04.000 So I started looking into the basis for this ideology, and the Fifth Amendment was the most enlightening to me.

00:12:10.000 When I read about the Founding Fathers' writings, how they talk about Blackstone's formulation, how they agree with this idea, and it was logical.

00:12:18.000 If a society is comprised of people who fear that no matter what they do, they can be inappropriately imprisoned, then they have no incentive to be good stewards towards the community. 0.97

00:12:29.000 If an individual feels, whether I do something right or wrong, the government is going to fuck me over anyway, then fuck the system, what's the point? 0.95

00:12:36.000 Why follow the law? 0.99

00:12:37.000 Why should I?

00:12:40.000 You know, and this actually ends up happening with the Civil War.

00:12:42.000 The South says, the Fugitive Slave Act is not being upheld by the government.

00:12:46.000 Why should we be subject to your other laws if you won't uphold these laws?

00:12:49.000 And we're getting dangerously close to that now.

00:12:52.000 The logic was, there must be an opportunity for individuals to be proven innocent and protected so that the innocent who are wrongly accused have a reason to defend the system. 0.99

00:13:01.000 Hey, don't fuck this shit up. 1.00

00:13:03.000 It's better than the king. 1.00

00:13:05.000 This was basically going back to the story where I believe it was God talking to Abraham a lot in Sodom and Gomorrah.

00:13:11.000 Prager corrected me on this one.

00:13:12.000 Abraham saying, if there's but one righteous person, I will not destroy the city. 0.99

00:13:16.000 They got the people out of the city, then God blows the fuck up. 0.99

00:13:20.000 A pretty good pair of brains. 0.99

00:13:22.000 Pretty close, you know.

00:13:24.000 But it was only after they knew there were no innocent people to be harmed did God decide to pass judgment, which brings us to our modern interpretation of protecting individual rights that we all agree with.

00:13:35.000 Why I got concerned when Kanye said that he wanted to instill Bible, Christian Bible, on U.S.

00:13:40.000 government is because I feel like God channels Information, depending on the moment, relative to the moment, and it will channel different things in different situations.

00:13:49.000 Well, this is a very good insight, Ian, because some people say, and you alluded to this, Tim, that, well, you know, we don't want some Leviticus dietary law to become a federal statute.

00:14:00.000 But there are three types of laws that we find in the Old Testament.

00:14:05.000 You find the laws pertaining to the political nature of the tribe of Israel.

00:14:11.000 You find laws, which, and these sort of rich and ritualistic laws, and these laws disappear with the destruction of the temple.

00:14:22.000 But you also find this third category, which are moral laws, and those laws are eternal.

00:14:26.000 Thou shalt not commit murder.

00:14:28.000 Honor thy father and mother.

00:14:30.000 And you see this articulated again by Christ in the Gospels, and when he says that love the Lord your God above all things, and love your neighbor as yourself, and he's distilling the spirit of the law.

00:14:41.000 So those laws remain true eternally, whereas you are quite right to say certain laws are for specific people with a specific time.

00:14:51.000 Matt Bender got banned!

00:14:52.000 Snap.

00:14:53.000 Who did?

00:14:54.000 Matt Bender got banned!

00:14:55.000 Like, um, the...

00:14:56.000 Aw, look, man, I disagree with Matt, but I don't know what he could have posted to...

00:15:02.000 I don't think he posted the jet, to be honest.

00:15:04.000 Is it not just all about the jet?

00:15:06.000 Is it not just all these libs are kind of jumping on the bandwagon?

00:15:09.000 I want to see what they tweeted.

00:15:10.000 I want to see what was the reason.

00:15:11.000 It's not just that.

00:15:12.000 I'm willing to bet that they've got a history of tweets they got away with. 1.00

00:15:15.000 He went through their accounts and said, fuck that, you're gone. 0.99

00:15:18.000 Bender was loud the last couple of days, too. 1.00

00:15:20.000 Very angry and vocal, it looked like.

00:15:22.000 I don't know if he's angry.

00:15:22.000 It was coming off sounding that way.

00:15:24.000 I think Elon's mad that they're posting bullshit. 0.94

00:15:27.000 They said something that Elon Musk is banning links just like they did with the Hunter Biden laptop. 1.00

00:15:33.000 It's the same thing, and that's bullshit. 0.76

00:15:35.000 It's not the same thing. 0.99

00:15:36.000 There's an argument to be made.

00:15:37.000 I think Elon's gone full on Philosopher King. 1.00

00:15:40.000 He's just like, you are fucking our shit up. 1.00

00:15:43.000 I'm not a fan of that. 1.00

00:15:44.000 I'm a fan of banning the people doxing him, but as I've stated time and time again, I am not okay with just living under the whims of a billionaire.

00:15:51.000 I recognize it's a private company.

00:15:53.000 They can do what they want.

00:15:53.000 I will continue to argue for principles-based rulemaking.

00:15:56.000 Well, he said specifically, uh, criticizing me all day long is totally fine, but doxing me, my real-time location, and endangering my family is not.

00:16:04.000 That's the statement he made, uh, just moments ago, according to Fox News.

00:16:08.000 He's speaking for a lot of people, because it's not cool.

00:16:10.000 Yeah, but, uh, CNN's claiming that Donny O'Sullivan did not post anything related to his location. 0.97

00:16:17.000 Aaron Ruppar, I don't trust the motherfucker, he's denying it saying he didn't post anything about the Jets. 0.98

00:16:22.000 That guy I don't trust. 1.00

00:16:23.000 I don't trust him for a while.

00:16:24.000 But Donny O'Sullivan, I could imagine maybe, I mean it's a CNN guy so it's a little cringe, but he's not that bad.

00:16:31.000 Donny O'Sullivan's very vanilla.

00:16:33.000 I could imagine he posted something without thought like, I would say I want to see what got them banned, but that's really not my business.

00:16:39.000 But I hope that they're able to see what got them banned.

00:16:42.000 They should have full transparency on this.

00:16:43.000 At the very least, because I agree there are some concerns.

00:16:45.000 Seven-day suspension, sorry.

00:16:47.000 He said seven-day suspension for doxxing.

00:16:49.000 Big difference.

00:16:49.000 Good.

00:16:50.000 Because, you know, the one thing I will say on all of this, even if we think that maybe Elon could go too far, hypothetically, I do like the libs getting a taste of their own medicine.

00:17:01.000 Oh, well that reminds me, sadism.

00:17:02.000 We were talking about this earlier.

00:17:04.000 Do you think that sadism has a place in the future of, you know, humanity?

00:17:09.000 Well, it has a place in the entirety of humanity after the fall.

00:17:12.000 But, you know, sadism comes from the Marquis de Sade.

00:17:15.000 And actually, I was just discussing the Marquis de Sade with our pal Andrew Klavan the other night.

00:17:19.000 I guess it was last night over cigars and drinks.

00:17:21.000 Because the Marquis de Sade, he was a philosopher who wrote pornography. 0.81

00:17:26.000 And you can only understand his philosophy, really, through the medium of pornography, because it's so obscene and so wicked.

00:17:33.000 But I always sort of think of the Marquis de Sade as the only honest atheist.

00:17:36.000 The Marquis de Sade is the man who asks, why is your pain any more important than my pleasure?

00:17:43.000 And so, in a world that strips away the moral order, or denies the moral order, The logical conclusion of that is going to be sadism.

00:17:52.000 Do you think that if we start instituting, like, biblical righteousness on modern society, that—I agree with you that there are some, like, innate law, natural law, and then there's, like, real—there's, like, actual law, like, or whatever you want to call it, where, like, don't eat pork.

00:18:06.000 Because back in the day, pork had trichinosis.

00:18:09.000 They'd get sick, they'd die.

00:18:10.000 So, like, don't eat it.

00:18:11.000 But now that we have cleanliness, you can, like, make sure it's clean, it's not disease-ridden, and you can eat it.

00:18:15.000 Sorry, I had to keep interrupting you guys, but Aaron Ruppar has now admitted he did link to the Jet.

00:18:20.000 He lied?

00:18:21.000 He didn't?

00:18:21.000 No, no, no.

00:18:22.000 He said, it just occurred to me that yesterday I did link to the Facebook Elon Jet account.

00:18:27.000 Perhaps that did it.

00:18:29.000 I think seven days is righteous.

00:18:30.000 You do seven days, they come back.

00:18:31.000 If they do it again, they get a 30-day ban.

00:18:33.000 If they do it again, they're permanent.

00:18:34.000 That actually is making me think that Elon is a merciful philosopher king.

00:18:38.000 More merciful than I would be.

00:18:39.000 Some guy tries to dox me and my family, I would be inclined to give him worse than a Twitter ban.

00:18:44.000 Yeah, doxing is weird.

00:18:46.000 But to your point, yeah, because there is a distinction between those kinds of laws.

00:18:52.000 I don't think anyone is pushing for a pork ban.

00:18:53.000 I like prosciutto very much.

00:18:55.000 But when you say, should we bring back biblical morality into our law, our whole law is derived from that already.

00:19:04.000 All law derives from moral Except there's one.

00:19:06.000 I keep trying to wrap my head around is, do not worship false idols.

00:19:10.000 It's the second commandment from God to Moses. 0.89

00:19:12.000 And Jesus was down with that.

00:19:14.000 He was like, don't worship false idols.

00:19:16.000 That's one of the main commandments.

00:19:18.000 And then as soon as he died, they start worshiping him like a false idol.

00:19:22.000 No, no.

00:19:23.000 Christ says, I am God, right?

00:19:25.000 Christ says, before Abraham was, I am. 0.92

00:19:27.000 I don't know.

00:19:27.000 I'm thinking about the debate you guys were having on the show.

00:19:30.000 somewhat a human but he's actually did point something out real quick too I

00:19:33.000 think like you know sorry to interrupt you know cuz I don't I don't know where

00:19:37.000 you guys were at but I just philosophy something hit me in the head I'm

00:19:39.000 thinking about the debate you guys were having on the show you know and Luke's

00:19:43.000 it seems like one element of Luke's problem is the Satanists and the Moloch

00:19:47.000 worshippers and then we're talking about like religion and government and I'm

00:19:51.000 just thinking like I think most the people Luke is complaining about whether 1.00

00:19:55.000 Whether it's tangential or direct are like demonic motherfuckers. 1.00

00:20:00.000 Of course. 1.00

00:20:00.000 Spirit cookers and baby killers. 1.00

00:20:01.000 They're Satanists. 0.97

00:20:02.000 They're Satanists that have hijacked government for their own personal benefit.

00:20:05.000 Right.

00:20:06.000 What would you think about if... I don't know if... They're Satanic pedophiles.

00:20:09.000 Right. 1.00

00:20:10.000 What if Christians who imprisoned pedophiles got control of government? 0.77

00:20:16.000 I think if we truly lived in an anarchist society, there'd be a lot less pedophiles. 0.99

00:20:21.000 Because there would be a lot of other people saying, you're fucking hurting children, we're gonna deal with you on a local level. 0.99

00:20:27.000 And we wouldn't have any of this fucking bullshit that's happening in our society right now, like the minor attracted children, like persons, like all this other bullshit that's happening right now. 0.99

00:20:38.000 Don't we already have local laws and local enforcement against pedos, too? 1.00

00:20:42.000 But, like, people can't do anything about it.

00:20:45.000 And in many times and in many instances, especially right now in California, they're passing laws that are essentially allowing a lot of pedophilic behavior.

00:20:52.000 They're essentially just easing the line.

00:20:54.000 Don't you think in the anarchist society that occurs in California that those people would continue to promote pedophilia?

00:21:00.000 No, I think you have very little faith in humanity and people.

00:21:04.000 No, I'm just observing the human behavior that you're describing.

00:21:06.000 No, I think a lot of this has been brought on because of the censorship that has been orchestrated and correlated by the government, not allowing these larger bad ideas to be pushed back against.

00:21:16.000 I think the FBI interfering and pushing and promoting a lot of this nonsense, especially when it comes to like genderqueer, especially when it comes to a lot of these drag queen stuff, especially when it comes to this larger ideology.

00:21:26.000 This ideology hasn't been put in check because any criticism of it is automatically banned.

00:21:32.000 Hi!

00:21:32.000 Hi there!

00:21:34.000 We're going to a customer presentation tomorrow.

00:21:36.000 Yes!

00:21:37.000 How do we do it with transport now that we don't have our own cars anymore?

00:21:41.000 You can just hire.

00:21:43.000 You can just hire?

00:21:44.000 Then they get access to hundreds of cars, while the company cuts costs.

00:21:48.000 Find out how at Hyre.no.

00:21:52.000 And, therefore, a lot of these people feel like it's okay.

00:21:54.000 It's not okay.

00:21:55.000 But, you know, it's not... Look, I'm all for booting Maya Kababi out of the schools and all this other nonsense, but it isn't... The criticism of transgenderism and transing the kids is not banned. 1.00

00:22:07.000 Daily Wire's biggest piece of content we have ever put out is a movie making fun of all of this, right?

00:22:11.000 That's all any conservative ever talks about.

00:22:14.000 What happens if you misgender someone on YouTube? 0.64

00:22:16.000 I do it every day in my shows.

00:22:18.000 What happens if you say trans on YouTube?

00:22:20.000 Well, I do these things every day, and I have a thriving show.

00:22:23.000 Do you say trans?

00:22:25.000 Yeah.

00:22:26.000 We say trans all the time.

00:22:27.000 I say trans all the time. 0.94

00:22:27.000 Tranny. 0.94

00:22:28.000 You can't say tranny. 0.88

00:22:29.000 Do you say tranny? 0.63

00:22:30.000 Yeah. 0.97

00:22:30.000 Yeah, I've said tranny. 0.97

00:22:31.000 And I also exclusively refer to Richard Levine, you know, the guy who pretends to be a woman.

00:22:36.000 I exclusively use male pronouns for men.

00:22:38.000 So I hate to defend the libs who are trying to censor us, but we transgress these things all the time, and at least we don't face a ton of consequences for it.

00:22:50.000 I would disagree.

00:22:51.000 I would say that there's been a lot of pushback, maybe not against the major channels, because Daily Wire has a lot of connections with Facebook.

00:22:58.000 It's a big player.

00:22:59.000 But let's be fair, you guys get away with a lot more than the average person does.

00:23:02.000 Because when we look at censorship, a lot of people have been censored for the smallest ideas of saying tranny, or on the smallest level.

00:23:09.000 I'm just saying there's no censorship.

00:23:11.000 And in other countries, people go to jail for misgendering people.

00:23:14.000 Luke, you would enforce your morals on other people.

00:23:17.000 That's just not a question, that's a fact.

00:23:20.000 It depends if it affects me, my family, my community.

00:23:22.000 I think a lot of it is based on contracts. 0.96

00:23:27.000 There was an image that I don't have pulled up here of a drag performance for kids where the guy was wearing fake tits with nipples showing actual fake tits. 1.00

00:23:37.000 This is the hard question of law. 0.50

00:23:40.000 Is there a law explicitly stating that an adult man cannot do a drag performance for a child?

00:23:46.000 The answer is literally no.

00:23:48.000 However, the judges will interpret, a sexual performance for children is exploitation of a minor.

00:23:55.000 Or public indecency.

00:23:56.000 Exactly.

00:23:57.000 So, the issue I come to in questions of ultimate liberty is, Yeah, if I was going to, like, we need the government to enforce contracts.

00:24:08.000 We need the government to enforce social contract issues. 0.90

00:24:11.000 I am not a big fan of large government.

00:24:13.000 I think, you know, smaller for the most part.

00:24:16.000 But there needs to be an arbiter of when we say, hey, those adult men dropping it low and twerking for two-year-olds and having little girls put money in their bikinis and thongs, we shouldn't allow that. 0.95

00:24:26.000 And that means someone has to go in and actually say, guys, you can't do this anymore.

00:24:29.000 But, you know, even to use that word you just mentioned, and that I can't believe we actually haven't talked about yet, is liberty.

00:24:34.000 I mean, what's really at issue is a disagreement over the nature of liberty, because the modern conception of liberty put forward by the libertarians and the liberals is that liberty is being able to do whatever you want, when liberty, it would seem to me, and I'm quoting Lord Acton here, actually, whom libertarians still seem to like, is that liberty is not the right Is not the ability to do whatever you wish to do, but the right to do what you ought to do.

00:24:58.000 And so, this is where actually bringing in your questions on religion, Ian, you see that it's not really a debate between slavery and liberty.

00:25:09.000 The man who sins is a slave to sin.

00:25:12.000 If you become addicted to heroin, you are a slave.

00:25:14.000 You are not really free.

00:25:15.000 Even if you can go out and there's no law against buying heroin, you really are a slave.

00:25:19.000 And so the question is, who will we be obedient to?

00:25:22.000 Will we be obedient to vice and evil and addiction?

00:25:26.000 Or will we be obedient to God and the true moral order?

00:25:29.000 Who controls the food, usually?

00:25:31.000 That's who we're obedient to.

00:25:34.000 Bill Gates.

00:25:35.000 Hopefully not, but yeah. 1.00

00:25:38.000 And then when I see they say you can't have raw milk, like fuck you. 1.00

00:25:42.000 I can have whatever I want in life. 1.00

00:25:44.000 But no, you're right.

00:25:45.000 I can't have whatever I want.

00:25:46.000 You're not.

00:25:46.000 You can't have whatever you want.

00:25:49.000 So Liberty is the right resource that I can possibly use as a journalist to be able to find people from different marginalized communities that I want to reach out to for different stories and things like that.

00:26:02.000 Speaking of things in the media, Brian Stelter, what do you think about banning journalists?

00:26:09.000 You know, Katie and I was at a holiday party tonight.

00:26:11.000 It's not the most sober CNN, Brian. 0.99

00:26:14.000 Fucking love Brian. 0.99

00:26:17.000 This is like a New Year's Eve Don Lemon, Brian. 1.00

00:26:23.000 Wait, are you gonna get your nipples pierced? 1.00

00:26:26.000 Come on, Brian. 0.99

00:26:27.000 Somebody's gotta get something pierced if this is really a holiday.

00:26:30.000 Alright, alright.

00:26:31.000 This is a Twitter space with, um...

00:26:34.000 All of these lib journalists and the Krasensteins, you know, with their back. 0.58

00:26:40.000 I like the Krasensteins, to be honest.

00:26:42.000 I like them all.

00:26:42.000 I get a kick out of them.

00:26:44.000 I think they engage.

00:26:46.000 I don't know about back in the day just being Trump reply guys, but I'm looking at their stuff now and the engagement that they give is, in my opinion, valuable.

00:26:54.000 I don't agree with them.

00:26:55.000 Yeah.

00:26:56.000 But the fact that they're going to actually argue with you is good, as opposed to just shitpost and just waste time.

00:27:02.000 I mean, I shouldn't post and waste time, but if I address someone, I'll make a point.

00:27:02.000 Right.

00:27:08.000 They're allowed to disagree.

00:27:10.000 I don't know if you can pull this up, Calum.

00:27:12.000 This is what I pulled up when I saw this wild stuff happening in here.

00:27:15.000 It's leftist activists, Alejandra Caraballo, for instance, someone who advocated for violence on Twitter and then cried when called out for it.

00:27:23.000 I'm saying cried figuratively.

00:27:25.000 And a bunch of these other, like Ben Smith, Oh, the best.

00:27:30.000 The best.

00:27:31.000 There was a verb, Ben Smithing.

00:27:33.000 You know Ben Smithing, which is when you try to appear reasonable enough to give you credibility before just behaving like an absolute leftist journo hack?

00:27:43.000 And Ben Smith perfected the art.

00:27:45.000 You know, the last time I saw him was boarding the same flight to Davos for the World Economic Forum.

00:27:49.000 As you?

00:27:50.000 As me.

00:27:51.000 So, I can't say I'm surprised, you know.

00:27:55.000 I was going there because I had friends who were doing a crypto village thing.

00:28:00.000 The World Economic Forum, the global elites love crypto.

00:28:04.000 It's a big, I think they want a global currency, I think they see crypto as a path, they want to do FedCoin, but I had friends who are wealthy, politically connected people who wanted to do a crypto village thing, and they invited me to come hang out.

00:28:17.000 I went for about a day before I just, I'll describe it as like an unsettling feeling, and decided to leave.

00:28:23.000 And then my videos that I recorded there, which were not about Davos, got deleted. 0.99

00:28:28.000 Weirdest fucking shit. 1.00

00:28:29.000 Off YouTube? 1.00

00:28:30.000 Yeah.

00:28:30.000 What?

00:28:31.000 And someone pointed it out to me and I was like, huh?

00:28:33.000 And I looked and I saw that there's a gap of three days on my channel from the time that I got on a plane and flew there.

00:28:39.000 And I did like two or three videos when I was in Dallas.

00:28:41.000 I was at a ski resort.

00:28:43.000 I wasn't actually able to go in anywhere near the forum.

00:28:45.000 I was just in the city.

00:28:46.000 It was a blizzard.

00:28:47.000 But I saw Ben Smith at the airport and I was like, Ben Smith!

00:28:50.000 And I sat down and we talked for a little bit.

00:28:53.000 And he said something to me about being on the other side or something like that, and I was like, what are you talking about?

00:29:00.000 Because I went to Sweden and I covered what was going on, all of a sudden he was like, you know.

00:29:05.000 But I don't know what he was doing there, but I'm not surprised to see that in this Twitter space right now, the speakers are left-wing activists.

00:29:13.000 Overt left-wing activists. 0.98

00:29:15.000 Not commentators, like actual non-profit advocacy people who make up bullshit. 0.98

00:29:21.000 You know, I was thinking about going to Davos this year. 0.84

00:29:24.000 I still haven't totally made up my mind, but I don't know that I could get in.

00:29:29.000 I really want to, but I want to see it.

00:29:33.000 When is it?

00:29:34.000 It's in mid-January, I think.

00:29:34.000 It's coming up.

00:29:37.000 Would you just go cold and stand outside and try and get in?

00:29:41.000 I don't know.

00:29:41.000 I would try to get in.

00:29:42.000 I mean, I don't know how many libs would take my phone call anymore. 1.00

00:29:45.000 I mean, I know people who go to it, but I don't know that they would help me out.

00:29:48.000 I don't think of you as conservative, really.

00:29:50.000 I mean, you're pretty liberal.

00:29:51.000 You're like kind of middle, like normal.

00:29:53.000 I find myself to be very reasonable and moderate.

00:29:55.000 Thank you.

00:29:55.000 Oh yes, and very modest.

00:29:57.000 And very modest, and very handsome.

00:29:58.000 But you don't strike me, you're working with a very, Daily Wire's got a reputation for being a conservative organization, but you strike me as like, I mean, you were like a liberal guy until you were like 28 or something, right?

00:30:07.000 I was not quite that late.

00:30:08.000 I went through a little bit of a lib phase, and I went through a big libertarian phase, which I now consider to be a lib phase, but I was an atheist for 10 years.

00:30:15.000 So yeah, you know, I've seen it all, man.

00:30:17.000 I've seen it all, I've thought about a lot, but I appreciate that you think I'm very modest.

00:30:22.000 How long did you stare into the demon?

00:30:24.000 I, you know, the demon abyss of atheism?

00:30:26.000 Yeah.

00:30:27.000 Like, like a decade almost.

00:30:29.000 I mean, it kind of came out of it a little slowly, but it, yeah, it's, when you come out of it, you get the zeal of a convert, you know, that's kind of why I'm so... That's where I'm at right now.

00:30:37.000 Against the Davos people and all that.

00:30:39.000 I'm so on board that we need God, but I'm not down with the religions that we have. 0.99

00:30:43.000 The Abrahamic stuff, I like the stories they have because it's their key to understanding, like, channeling God information.

00:30:49.000 And I know, I feel God is real.

00:30:51.000 It seems like the microwave background radiation is like the sentient part of God.

00:30:56.000 You say that, and I have a certain degree of respect for that attempt to understand, but microwave background radiation is confined within the universe, and God is beyond.

00:31:07.000 Well, all we see of it is what we see in the universe.

00:31:09.000 It may be beyond as well.

00:31:14.000 You know, for the longest time, humans thought that what they could touch, smell, see, and hear was reality.

00:31:20.000 You know, to quote the Incubus song where they put that line in.

00:31:23.000 But then after the initial publication of the Charged Electromagnetic Spectrum, we learned that what we can touch, smell, see, and hear was less than one millionth of reality.

00:31:30.000 So we can see now using tools to interpret energy and then convert it into something visible to us.

00:31:37.000 So our tools, for instance, can detect Ultraviolet, X-ray, gamma, and then put it on a screen that is translatable into the visible spectrum for us.

00:31:47.000 We are peeking through a tiny little hole.

00:31:49.000 And furthermore, it's even teenier than it would seem because you're still only talking about the physical universe.

00:31:55.000 Exactly.

00:31:56.000 But there's obviously a metaphysical universe like mathematics and hopes and dreams and loves, right?

00:32:01.000 And so I talk about this The way I convert atheists into agnostics is, but I'm neither, I believe in God, and the simplified version is you can actually see the code and system of the universe and how it functions and the purpose of life.

00:32:01.000 Exactly.

00:32:20.000 Whether you want to call it intelligent or not, it is a machine functioning and it has been functioning rather perfectly without error as far as we know.

00:32:28.000 That is, there is entropy and then there is entropy.

00:32:31.000 There's negative entropy and there's entropy, but negative entropy only exists so long as there is greater entropy, so it looks like a golden ratio.

00:32:38.000 Simple version.

00:32:39.000 Free energy organizes itself into complex systems over time, so long as entropy is greater than the negative entropy produced by that system.

00:32:48.000 You get particles that collide, become denser materials, become atoms, becomes compounds, become molecules, become self-replicating proteins, organic matter, which becomes single cellular life, which becomes multicellular life, which becomes an organism in an ecosystem, symbiotic.

00:33:04.000 Now you've elevated from energy connecting, that ecosystem is an abstract system.

00:33:11.000 It exists only in the metaphysical, as you were saying.

00:33:14.000 So a squirrel planting a nut, So that, you know, a tree drops a nut, the squirrel plants it because it wants food for the winter, the squirrel forgets where it is, a tree grows next year.

00:33:24.000 That is a system.

00:33:25.000 There is a system there that we can clearly see, but only in our minds, because it doesn't physically exist.

00:33:31.000 You can't grab a box of Squirrel tree ecosystem, but we know the system is there.

00:33:37.000 Math, for instance.

00:33:38.000 We know it's there.

00:33:40.000 We can actually chart these things, but you can't physically grab it.

00:33:43.000 That is the next degree of complex dynamic systems.

00:33:47.000 We have taken free energy and now we are in our minds Seeing things that don't actually exist in the world, but we know are real.

00:33:55.000 Yeah, they exist, but they're not physical.

00:33:57.000 Just like, you know, this is a glass, but the matter, it's just the same old, you know, electrons and protons and stuff.

00:34:03.000 So the thing that gives the glass its glassness is the form of the glass.

00:34:08.000 But, is it a cup?

00:34:10.000 Or is it a glass?

00:34:10.000 Well, it's both a cup and a glass.

00:34:11.000 Is it a receptacle?

00:34:13.000 And a receptacle.

00:34:13.000 Exactly.

00:34:14.000 These words represent a complex system that we can decipher that don't exist in physical space.

00:34:20.000 And without the human mind, those systems are lost to the visibility of the universe.

00:34:24.000 Meaning, if every single human was gone right now, the cup concept exists somewhere in the metaphysical reality, but there's no human to translate that to you.

00:34:24.000 Right.

00:34:35.000 So my point is this, if we can see the physical coalescing of free energy into complex systems, we as humans are the highest level of organization that we know of.

00:34:46.000 I do not believe humans are the last. 0.86

00:34:48.000 That would be really stupid to think all of reality comes to humans and then stops.

00:34:52.000 Yeah, and we can't be the highest created being in as much as... These things would not be intelligible, right, if there were not A higher intelligence, and ultimately a highest intelligence, right? 0.96

00:35:08.000 Yes.

00:35:08.000 That's the only reason that we can even discuss these things.

00:35:11.000 So like, I watched this great documentary, I was watching a presentation by a Christian scientist guy, and he was talking about how perfect the solar system is, that Jupiter is a filter, Jupiter and Saturn filter out larger objects to protect the inner planets.

00:35:26.000 And he was talking about how an ant can build a colony next to a superhighway, and they will never comprehend what a superhighway is.

00:35:34.000 In fact, they don't even know it's there.

00:35:37.000 A dog may know it's there, but will never comprehend.

00:35:41.000 That means to a human, we don't even know what's there.

00:35:46.000 To think that we are the end-all be-all and there's nothing greater than us is... So with this argument, I usually get atheists to become agnostic because they're like, you know, that's a good point. 1.00

00:35:56.000 Humans, because we are wet robots, it would be arrogant to think we're the end-all be-all, right?

00:36:00.000 That would be too faith-based to think humans are paramount.

00:36:00.000 Certainly.

00:36:03.000 So there's something beyond us, right?

00:36:05.000 Now they can start entertaining the possibility that there's...

00:36:07.000 No, and this is so important, but then there is the next question, which, Ian, you bring up, and you say, well, I believe in God, basically, but I have all these questions, but I'm skeptical of religion.

00:36:18.000 But religion, because this would be the next point, after Tim converts everybody to stop being atheists, then the next point is, okay, well then, if God exists, or at least I'm open to the possibility that God exists, I guess I should probably try to figure something out about him, shouldn't I?

00:36:35.000 That seems more important than me just rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic.

00:36:40.000 I should probably figure something out about this.

00:36:41.000 And so religion, though it gets a bad rap, religion is the virtue by which human beings are disposed to render to God the service and worship that he deserves.

00:36:52.000 That's the definition of religion.

00:36:53.000 And so, you know, theology is faith-seeking understanding.

00:36:58.000 So it's not some fantastical thing and just wish-casting, but it's actually applying the rigors of logic and intelligence to making some sense of this guy, this sort of higher being that we all are acknowledging may or very likely does exist.

00:37:15.000 Yeah, I think religions are massively important, and I don't—I've been degrading, I think, with things I've been saying about Catholicism and things like this.

00:37:22.000 I don't intend to degrade, but— You're going to be a Catholic someday, so it's all right.

00:37:24.000 Well, I'm concerned about monopolies, and that—and religious institutions are not, you know, void of monopoly power, like— No, they—I mean, even you say religions, but if—by the definition of religion, and by Who God is.

00:37:39.000 There can really only be one religion, right?

00:37:42.000 One God.

00:37:43.000 Many ways to describe it.

00:37:44.000 Let me, let me, let me tell you.

00:37:45.000 But one way to serve him.

00:37:46.000 I think so.

00:37:47.000 I think that might be, well, they seem to have pieced together some basics in the Old Testament, in the Quran, and in the New Testament.

00:37:53.000 They're like, yo, you should be fasting.

00:37:55.000 Two-thirds of that is true.

00:37:56.000 Like, they should be fasting.

00:37:56.000 Fasting in the Quran is key.

00:37:58.000 You get in touch with God when your gut is clear.

00:38:00.000 Michael, the greatest thing ever gifted to Catholics? 0.99

00:38:04.000 Video games.

00:38:06.000 You know why?

00:38:07.000 Tell me.

00:38:08.000 When I was growing up, I went to Catholic school briefly, and we were told that, you know, we had some of the arguments from religious folks that the earth is 5,000 to 7,000 years old, varying dates or whatever, that days meant eons, not literal days, so the earth is 7,000 years old.

00:38:23.000 Dinosaurs were put there by God to test our faith, things like that.

00:38:28.000 And then I'd hear from secular, science-based individuals saying, like, well, that's patently absurd, right?

00:38:39.000 I mean, the bones are there.

00:38:40.000 You don't think God just did that to trick you, did you?

00:38:43.000 Then you get to the advent of advanced video games.

00:38:47.000 I can tell you definitively that the world of Skyrim did not exist 5000 years ago.

00:38:53.000 I can tell you definitively that the creator of that universe did put the bones in the ground specifically for your experience.

00:38:59.000 That's great.

00:39:00.000 So when you hear arguments from people like Elon Musk about how In 30 years we will be able to create virtual simulations that are indistinguishable from real life, therefore there's a great potential.

00:39:09.000 We are in one now.

00:39:10.000 I simply say, as you know Seamus and I would often discuss, the root, the basics of simulism are things that Christian and Catholic theologians and philosophers talked about thousands of years ago.

00:39:23.000 And the point of view you're describing right now is so sophisticated because there is a 20th century writer and philosopher who was really not appreciated, but he's kind of coming back.

00:39:34.000 His name is Owen Barfield.

00:39:35.000 He was an inkling.

00:39:37.000 He helped convert C.S.

00:39:38.000 Lewis.

00:39:38.000 And Owen Barfield has this idea of representations.

00:39:43.000 that we just, you know, we have different ways of representing things and understanding the world.

00:39:49.000 And one of the problems with science, the scientific revolution, is science forces us

00:39:53.000 to focus only on phenomena, only on matter, and not on the meaning of matter, you know,

00:39:58.000 what the symbols symbolize. And that's just so we can operate on the people and measure

00:40:04.000 where the stars are going or whatever.

00:40:05.000 But the problem is we make idols out of that then and we pretend that those are the only things that exist.

00:40:10.000 And so it brought to mind this idea that now we say, what is man's place in the universe?

00:40:16.000 The old view is man is at the center of the universe.

00:40:19.000 Right?

00:40:19.000 That was the pre, that was the geocentric view.

00:40:22.000 The new view is, no, no, no, the earth revolves around the sun and the sun is in the Milky Way and the Milky Way is in the galaxy supercluster in the middle of nowhere.

00:40:31.000 Which is the more accurate description of reality?

00:40:35.000 Man is at the center of the universe in the sense that man is the meeting of the physical and the metaphysical world through our rational soul.

00:40:42.000 In a... yes, we're floating on some rock or whatever, somewhere in the middle of nowhere, but in a much deeper sense, man is at the center of the universe.

00:40:49.000 Women are either 2x chromosomes, like the scientists tell us, or women are sugar and spice and everything nice, like I was told as a kid. 1.00

00:40:57.000 It is a more accurate description of reality to say women are sugar and spice and everything nice. 1.00

00:41:00.000 That's closer to what woman really means. 1.00

00:41:04.000 If simulism is true, that Abby woman made that pyramid, the conspiracy pyramid, you saw that one? 0.99

00:41:11.000 We live in a simulation was we have questions.

00:41:14.000 This is secular atheists entertaining the possibility that the dinosaur bones were placed there by a higher power for their experience or for some unknown reason.

00:41:25.000 But if we're in a simulation, we could be 5,000 years old.

00:41:29.000 The bones could be fake.

00:41:31.000 And it's like, what they're doing is, I feel like simulism, which is becoming popular among a lot of these people, is like the fish coming out of the ocean for the first time.

00:41:42.000 And it's like, I want you to imagine this scenario.

00:41:45.000 The fish crawls out of the water and goes, And you're watching this going, wow, it's finally emerging.

00:41:52.000 And then the camera pans and there's humans walking around looking at it going like, we've been here for thousands of years.

00:41:57.000 What are they doing?

00:41:58.000 But simulism really is like religion 101.

00:42:01.000 It's like the introductory concept to, you know, a creator, intelligent design and all that stuff.

00:42:05.000 It's atheism of the gaps.

00:42:06.000 They used to call it God of the gaps.

00:42:08.000 It's really atheism of the gaps.

00:42:09.000 We can't explain these things.

00:42:10.000 So we'll just kind of make something up.

00:42:11.000 It's like the first time an atheist, you know, I really do think a lot of these people just They do this thing where they're like, I became an atheist because I read the Bible.

00:42:20.000 It's like, you can read the Bible and not understand philosophy and have no wisdom.

00:42:24.000 It's like simulation theory is the first step of a person who doesn't understand the philosophical getting the first grain of sand to make the heap to go, hey, wait a minute.

00:42:34.000 Dude, when you see what looks like sentient movement from like plasmoids, these plasma fields, or when you start to study quantum physics and these physical effects where you're like, I can't replicate that.

00:42:45.000 What is that?

00:42:45.000 I think that that's evidence.

00:42:47.000 And dude, I was just looking at an embryo, a human embryo, dividing from the beginning, from single cell, and it like, it vibrates, and then it splits, and it's like vibrating, and then it splits again.

00:42:56.000 It looks like one of those chymatic things. 1.00

00:42:57.000 Have you ever watched chymatics where they vibrate a membrane with sand on it? 1.00

00:43:01.000 And depending on the frequency, it changes?

00:43:03.000 That's what the embryo looks like it's doing.

00:43:04.000 So there's like this vibrate, it's like a resonating frequency.

00:43:08.000 Vibrations, man.

00:43:09.000 Vibrations, man.

00:43:09.000 We gotta wrap it up, but this was absolutely great.

00:43:12.000 We didn't even yell about individualism.

00:43:14.000 Tell me about it. 1.00

00:43:15.000 You damn commies! 1.00

00:43:17.000 No government! 1.00

00:43:18.000 Michael, thanks for hanging out.

00:43:19.000 Pleasure as always.

00:43:20.000 Thank you gentlemen for having me.

00:43:22.000 And for everybody who is a member, I just want you to know that I really do mean it when I say thank you so much.

00:43:26.000 You do make it possible.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - December 18, 2022

Sunday Uncensored: Michael Knowles Members Only Podcast

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