Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - December 24, 2023


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The Daily Mail is reporting that Trump is fuming over Kanye West s dinner with white supremacist Nick Fuentes at Mar-A-Lago, and former President Bill Clinton says he would have rejected the controversial guest if he showed up.

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00:00:33.000 The Daily Mail is reporting that Trump's fuming over Kanye bringing white supremacist Nick Fuentes to dinner.
00:00:41.000 Ex-president also says Fuentes' views wouldn't have been accepted at Mar-a-Lago dinner if they were brought up.
00:00:46.000 Maybe.
00:00:47.000 I mean, Michael, you brought up the point earlier that, like, how did this guy get in?
00:00:50.000 Yeah, I'm sorry.
00:00:51.000 Like, you don't get a plus three to meet a president.
00:00:54.000 So, like, and it's your fault for trusting someone that you shouldn't have trusted.
00:00:59.000 And it's just crazy.
00:01:00.000 You have to.
00:01:01.000 Here's the thing.
00:01:03.000 I'll defend Trump in the broad sense.
00:01:05.000 He shook hands with Kim Jong-un, right?
00:01:08.000 So this is someone who has more blood in his hands than any literal Nazi, white nationalist, you know, KKK person in America.
00:01:16.000 To this day, this is why they both wrote the book on North Korea, dear reader, because the atrocities going on there are unimaginable.
00:01:23.000 And that was something where you could wrap your head around it because he's trying to liberalize them and advocate for the North Korean people. 0.92
00:01:28.000 So when you're president, you're going to be meeting with lots of very many screwed up people.
00:01:33.000 Maybe that was a mistake, maybe not.
00:01:34.000 But the point is, you're certainly handshaking with lots of demonic figures, which I don't think Nick is demonic to that level.
00:01:41.000 Point being, even when you're a CEO, Right? If you're something like an I shook all their hands. 1.00
00:01:47.000 Yeah, in a politically. No, but if you're a CEO, and you're in a politically sensitive
00:01:50.000 position, and you're having dinner with someone, they ask you, hey, I'm bringing these people like if when
00:01:56.000 they show up, you have to have your guy vet them. But Trump doesn't have assistance. It makes no
00:02:02.000 sense. And if it and if he's that sloppy, he deserves whatever blowback he gets. So I agree with
00:02:07.000 fresh.
00:02:08.000 So, Milo's texted me.
00:02:10.000 Wait, can I say one more thing?
00:02:11.000 Hold on, this is something that just reminded me.
00:02:13.000 The biggest criticism about Trump for all his years was his staffing decisions.
00:02:18.000 He has Fauci, he's bringing the head of Exxon to be the Secretary of State, he's bringing in swab creatures. 1.00
00:02:27.000 He tried to hire Bill Gates as a science advisor.
00:02:29.000 The person that he asked for advice to who should be Secretary of State was Condoleezza Rice.
00:02:34.000 That was the first person he asked.
00:02:35.000 This was before he was even inaugurated.
00:02:37.000 She is the queen of the neocons. 0.98
00:02:39.000 She was behind the Iraq war. 0.56
00:02:40.000 This is who you're calling?
00:02:41.000 So the point being, if your issue with staffing has been a concern through your presidency, and this is something even your strong support is like, alright, they kind of ran the table about you, and they're saying you've learned your lesson, Well, what, now people are just showing up, and you're like, okay, cool, whoever he is, I'm fine with it.
00:02:55.000 Like, this should be your biggest issue to fix, and like, I'm gonna surround myself with people that I've thoroughly vetted.
00:03:01.000 This was a tremendous smackdown of Trump in so many ways.
00:03:07.000 This dinner, he's reeling from it, everyone's coming after him about it, and even people on the right are going after him, and that's what was important. 1.00
00:03:13.000 The left has tried to demonize Trump, but the right always says, oh, shut up with this bullshit. 1.00
00:03:19.000 But the right does not like Fuentes. 1.00
00:03:21.000 So this was something more.
00:03:23.000 I want to say, Milo's been texting me.
00:03:27.000 Adamant.
00:03:28.000 They did not plan for this.
00:03:30.000 That he feels really bad.
00:03:32.000 Didn't mean for it to happen.
00:03:35.000 Looking up some of the details from the flight they got.
00:03:38.000 Entirely possible that Ye is wealthy enough that he can command hot crews to pull flights like that.
00:03:43.000 And Ye ain't one of the richest guys or whatever in the world.
00:03:47.000 And so, you know, Milo's just like, we didn't want that to happen.
00:03:49.000 And I just want to make sure I say that at least here, because, you know, it was right towards the end of the show he mentioned, like, look, I did not expect that to happen.
00:03:57.000 They left because they worked for him, and then, like, he's out, he's the boss.
00:04:00.000 And full belief, I agree, I think that he's being honest, because what he didn't do is drama.
00:04:05.000 He didn't go online and make a video about it.
00:04:07.000 Milo's not trying to grope off this, he's just genuinely concerned.
00:04:11.000 He's not trying to grape off this ship, but he obviously cares about you, and that's why he contacted you directly.
00:04:17.000 Oh, I don't know if I believe that.
00:04:20.000 I think... He doesn't want to sleep with you or anything.
00:04:24.000 You don't want to burn bridges.
00:04:26.000 You're not trying to make enemies.
00:04:27.000 But I think he likes you, too.
00:04:27.000 He's a cool guy.
00:04:28.000 to make enemies when you're...
00:04:29.000 But I think he likes you too.
00:04:30.000 He's a cool guy, you know, he's got...
00:04:31.000 Here's what I want to say, because I said this right before we started streaming, or
00:04:36.000 sorry, right before we started recording.
00:04:39.000 Milo came on a couple days after the midterms.
00:04:41.000 I think it was, right?
00:04:41.000 The 7th was the midterms, or was it the 8th or whatever?
00:04:43.000 It was the 8th.
00:04:44.000 So he came on the day after.
00:04:45.000 What a day to come on.
00:04:47.000 We were hoping to get him and Marjorie Taylor Greene at the same time, to be honest.
00:04:49.000 But we couldn't.
00:04:50.000 She's busy. 0.52
00:04:50.000 I mean, the midterms happened. 0.52
00:04:52.000 Milo basically monologued for an hour and a half.
00:04:54.000 Yeah, about.
00:04:55.000 And there were a few points where Luke and I butted in, but mostly let him speak because he had five years of this pent-up Worldview.
00:05:02.000 He is a talker.
00:05:04.000 That was his thing.
00:05:05.000 He was a character personality.
00:05:06.000 He was a speaker, a commentator.
00:05:08.000 And they shut him out for years.
00:05:10.000 And here he was coming back saying, here's what I've seen.
00:05:12.000 Here's what I think.
00:05:12.000 Here's how I feel.
00:05:14.000 Here's how people like me feel.
00:05:15.000 And the chat was like, he's nailing it.
00:05:16.000 He's hitting that head on the nail.
00:05:18.000 He's hitting the nail in the head with the hammer.
00:05:20.000 We want revenge.
00:05:21.000 We feel played.
00:05:22.000 Trump was our sign of hope.
00:05:23.000 And I was like, this is really, really interesting stuff.
00:05:26.000 At that point, we got hit up by a bunch of people, prominent conservative speakers, saying that was the best podcast I've ever seen.
00:05:35.000 No joke, literally that quote.
00:05:36.000 I'm not gonna say what it was.
00:05:37.000 Big, big names.
00:05:38.000 And they were like, wow. 1.00
00:05:40.000 Then, I find out a couple weeks later, Milo's now working with Ye and Fuentes, and they're saying some, you know, stupid-ass shit. 1.00
00:05:48.000 And I feel kind of bad. 1.00
00:05:49.000 I'm like, man.
00:05:50.000 If Milo did not throw in with them, he'd be on not just a redemption arc, but he'd be a rising star based on that show he did where he explained his feelings.
00:05:59.000 Wait, to clarify, so earlier he said in the press that he was the one who brought Nick to the dinner with Trump?
00:06:06.000 Yep.
00:06:06.000 Not Kanye?
00:06:07.000 He did.
00:06:08.000 Okay.
00:06:08.000 And he even said it on the show the other day.
00:06:10.000 He said, after he got banned for the DEFCON tweet, Okay.
00:06:16.000 Kanye said he brought Fuentes.
00:06:17.000 because he was told Milo wanted to reach out to him, then Milo connected him with Fuentes to bring
00:06:21.000 to the dinner. And that Milo, I think he said he decided not to go. I can't remember what he said.
00:06:25.000 It's on the show. Kanye said he brought Fuentes. He met him.
00:06:28.000 He liked him. So he brought him to the dinner. My point is Milo teaming up with this group was,
00:06:36.000 I don't get it.
00:06:38.000 It was just this three of them, like yesterday, I've never seen a bunch of gay men so upset since Stonewall. 1.00
00:06:44.000 You think Ye is gay?
00:06:45.000 Well, you saw those rumors online.
00:06:47.000 Milo saying that.
00:06:48.000 rumors online. Milo, Milo saying that. Yeah. Milo. There's like screen. I don't like screenshots.
00:06:53.000 Like I want to see the source, but there's screenshots going around where Milo is allegedly
00:06:59.000 calling yay gay. 0.86
00:07:00.000 And threatening to cause harm to him. 0.98
00:07:04.000 Like a legitimate call to harm or something? 0.95
00:07:06.000 I think he said he was going to kill him, didn't he?
00:07:08.000 But that's the screencap, so we don't know if this is real.
00:07:10.000 I call shenanigans on screencaps. 0.99
00:07:12.000 It's hard to say, because if it's true, it's fucked. 0.98
00:07:13.000 But like, I'm not going to believe a screengrab, bro. 0.99
00:07:16.000 Did you see MTG disavowed Nick Fuentes?
00:07:19.000 Oh, did she?
00:07:19.000 Yeah, just before the show.
00:07:21.000 And Nick and Myla works for her, correct?
00:07:24.000 Yeah, it's all on Twitter, yeah.
00:07:25.000 Wow.
00:07:26.000 Yeah, so just look up MTG and Nick Fuentes, and she came out and publicly disavowed him. 1.00
00:07:32.000 It's so wild when you look in Nick's eyes.
00:07:34.000 Not her Twitter, but there's news articles about it.
00:07:36.000 I don't think she's tweeting about it.
00:07:37.000 Oh.
00:07:37.000 But there's a bunch of corporate media articles about it.
00:07:40.000 And Trump refused to.
00:07:42.000 Refused to disavow him?
00:07:44.000 Yeah.
00:07:44.000 See, that's the thing.
00:07:45.000 Disavow him or disavow the things he said in the past?
00:07:47.000 What's the... Hold on, I'm looking at the news.
00:07:50.000 She spoke at an event.
00:07:51.000 I think the purpose is... And she did disavow him.
00:07:53.000 Yeah.
00:07:54.000 You want racist people to become not racist.
00:07:56.000 Yeah, she spoke at his event.
00:07:57.000 Right.
00:07:59.000 Oh, okay, seven hours ago she tweeted, Of course I denounced Nick Fuentes and his racist, anti-Semitic ideology.
00:08:04.000 I can't comprehend why the media is obsessed with him.
00:08:07.000 Do you actually report real news or just use CNN for your political activism?
00:08:10.000 Have you questioned Democrats that denounce Israel hating Ilhan Omar?
00:08:15.000 Nice clapback.
00:08:15.000 Yeah, it's right here, seven hours ago, yeah.
00:08:19.000 Yeah, you know, I don't know, man, but I know Milo's extremely smart.
00:08:24.000 Yes.
00:08:25.000 Extremely driven.
00:08:25.000 And if this was all revenge, this is why I don't like vengeance.
00:08:29.000 Milo came on the show and had everyone cheering for him.
00:08:32.000 So after everything that happened to him with the cancellation and being abandoned, This was a rising moment.
00:08:38.000 He could have taken this high road.
00:08:41.000 He could have stood up for something that mattered, but instead he decided to go behind that and just throw himself back into the mud.
00:08:45.000 I think he felt like it was the high road.
00:08:47.000 He has the opportunity to create a great candidate in Kanye.
00:08:51.000 Obviously, he must have been disillusioned with Trump.
00:08:52.000 Or maybe he thought Kanye and Trump could come together, and he thought, this is the high road.
00:08:57.000 And Nick has been wronged by this I can't speak for Milo, but I would bet a significant amount of money that he feels that he had, he, this part he said explicitly that he was responsible for Trump's presidency, which is not entirely crazy.
00:09:09.000 He really was a critical figure and he had nothing to show for it.
00:09:13.000 And there was no sign of gratitude.
00:09:14.000 You have, you know, Trump basically saying, I don't know who this guy is.
00:09:17.000 So I'm sure for him, it feels hurtful and humiliating.
00:09:23.000 If Milo.
00:09:26.000 He made a mistake, period.
00:09:28.000 And it's unfortunate, because either his mistake was letting his emotions drive him towards vengeance when he had an opportunity for re-emergence, or he thought the path towards this was going to be to lining up with Ye.
00:09:41.000 Or maybe he thinks this is the truth, and he's fighting for what he views as the truth.
00:09:45.000 I think so, because he's become deeply Christian lately, deeply religious, and Kanye is also, and so is Nick.
00:09:50.000 Like, they talk a lot about Christianity.
00:09:52.000 Or is this because he got cast out and was desperately trying to find something to be a part of again?
00:09:59.000 And so, look, I can't speak for his experiences.
00:10:04.000 But imagine you're a gay man who aligns with Trump.
00:10:08.000 You've already cut your market share in half, your social circle.
00:10:12.000 You're now in the Trump space.
00:10:14.000 You're going to have trouble going to cities and going to your traditional gay club, which are going to have pride flags and be very, you know, leftist. 0.99
00:10:20.000 Then the right casts you out, calling you a pedophile. 0.85
00:10:24.000 Where does he go?
00:10:26.000 So what happens?
00:10:27.000 He says he renounces being gay.
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00:11:30.000 He still is attracted to men, but he's not going to act upon it.
00:11:33.000 He is now sodomy free because he wants to follow the Lord.
00:11:36.000 That sounds to me like he was like, humans need something.
00:11:40.000 Am I allowed to use vulgar language on this?
00:11:42.000 Of course.
00:11:42.000 You can say whatever you want.
00:11:43.000 You can't like unsuck those dicks. 1.00
00:11:46.000 Yeah, but you don't have to label yourself. 0.99
00:11:48.000 I think that's what he's kind of getting away from, like, identifying as a certain way.
00:11:52.000 No, no, no.
00:11:52.000 He said he was still very much gay.
00:11:54.000 Yeah.
00:11:54.000 He said the media saying he wasn't gay anymore was not true.
00:11:56.000 He said he was no longer going to act upon it.
00:11:58.000 He was going to try and follow Christ.
00:11:59.000 Restraint.
00:12:00.000 That was a big... Yeah.
00:12:01.000 He said he doesn't like women. 0.98
00:12:03.000 He still very much likes men, but he is sodomy-free. 0.96
00:12:05.000 Is he still married? 0.91
00:12:07.000 I don't think so.
00:12:08.000 He basically said it didn't work out for him.
00:12:10.000 He tried that, and that's how he's learned that he is gay, and this is like his struggle.
00:12:13.000 Like, his struggle in life that he views as a Catholic is that he is gay, and that's the thing he must overcome in his struggle. 0.94
00:12:19.000 He came out as very genuine with that, because I thought he was going to literally pretend he's a hick. 0.94
00:12:24.000 And he's going to be like, Hey, y'all, I'm straight now.
00:12:28.000 And I think there's a video of him coming out of straight where he kind of played into that a little bit.
00:12:33.000 But that was a couple of months ago.
00:12:35.000 But on the show, he was like, Hey, guys, you know, I'm being real.
00:12:37.000 And it came off very genuine.
00:12:39.000 Yeah, it did.
00:12:40.000 I feel like a lot of this, like, what do you do when you have nowhere to go, when you have no one, when there's no community for you anywhere?
00:12:47.000 You find one.
00:12:48.000 Blame the Jews? 0.96
00:12:49.000 Apparently.
00:12:50.000 Start blaming people for it?
00:12:53.000 I mean, he was interning for Marjorie Taylor Greene after being basically the dude who, one of the most prominent figures in Trump's presidency.
00:13:00.000 Yeah.
00:13:01.000 And then he gets, like, you made a really great point that He was abused as a kid, and he's talking about it, and everyone attacked him for being the victim.
00:13:09.000 Like, you know, his view of it, they're like, how dare you support that?
00:13:12.000 And it's like, well, he was a victim of it.
00:13:13.000 And that's because he said he liked it?
00:13:14.000 Is that the big problem?
00:13:15.000 He said something like it helped him to understand.
00:13:17.000 Do you remember what's the exact verbiage?
00:13:19.000 The thing is, the interview was like a year before it came out.
00:13:21.000 They became a big thing.
00:13:23.000 It was clearly pretty nuanced.
00:13:24.000 Like, maybe people didn't like that he was being glib about it.
00:13:28.000 But the point being, it was, at the very least, He was someone who had things done to him that should not have been done to him, and even if his views were skewed, they were still informed by being someone who is the victim of abuse.
00:13:42.000 I'm just saying, after that show he did, and the response that we got from people, he probably could have found a really, really high-paying job, or at the very least was months away from, I mean, look, he could be back on Twitter tomorrow. 0.99
00:13:55.000 But what the fuck has he done? 0.99
00:13:56.000 Look, Ye is a very powerful guy, but Ye is imploding. 0.99
00:14:02.000 And Fuentes has always struggled because of the things he said, and the cancellations and everything.
00:14:06.000 Why would Milo decide that, After all this, like, I don't know, man.
00:14:12.000 I think he, because he was such a victim of cancel culture that he wants to help other people that he sees as victims of cancel culture.
00:14:18.000 And so he's gravitated to those two guys because of recent, you know, in the last couple of years, they've been pretty stomped out.
00:14:24.000 Maybe he really is bummed because he thought this was going to work out for him or something.
00:14:27.000 Maybe it will.
00:14:28.000 Maybe I'm wrong.
00:14:28.000 I don't know.
00:14:29.000 But I, you know, this idea that they were bringing up on the show the other day that people are finally rejecting the hypocrisy of who we're allowed to call out.
00:14:38.000 When Yeh brought up the Jews again, and then made this point about how, why is it that we can say the black vote, but we can't say Jewish people? 0.95
00:14:48.000 It's hypocrisy, you know, we can say there's white people here, but we can't say Jewish people are in the banks. 0.94
00:14:53.000 Milo said it's a hypocrisy that people are starting to call out, and they're wondering why they can't say these things. 0.99
00:14:59.000 And I'm like, Bro, you can say the black vote, and you can say the Jewish vote, and you can say the Mexican vote, and you can say the white vote, and you can say the female vote, but we're not saying black people secretly run the planet and are trying to kill us or destroy our lives. 0.89
00:15:10.000 But also, I'm sorry, there's a little bit of disingenuousness, because whether you agree or not, and there's reasons to disagree, you can't pretend you don't understand why people are especially sensitive about antisemitism. 0.97
00:15:20.000 Now, you could say that the time has passed, or it's ridiculous, or whatever, but like, well, I don't know why this is such a taboo.
00:15:26.000 You do know why.
00:15:27.000 So there's a meme.
00:15:28.000 Someone said, if you insult Muslims, you fear for your life. 0.74
00:15:32.000 If you insult the Jews, you fear for your job. 0.93
00:15:34.000 If you insult Christians, you fear nothing.
00:15:36.000 This was going viral on Twitter.
00:15:38.000 I can't remember who posted this.
00:15:39.000 Maybe an ALX or something.
00:15:40.000 I don't want to drag anybody. 1.00
00:15:41.000 But I always do this.
00:15:43.000 People are like, why are you shilling Tim?
00:15:44.000 Why are you shilling Tim?
00:15:45.000 Let me ask you a question, Mr. Michael Maus.
00:15:47.000 How many Muslims are there on the planet? 0.98
00:15:50.000 Oh, was it a billion?
00:15:52.000 1.6 maybe?
00:15:53.000 Yeah.
00:15:53.000 How many Christians are there?
00:15:55.000 Is there one?
00:15:55.000 Two billion?
00:15:57.000 Wait, I thought there's more Muslims than Christians.
00:15:59.000 No.
00:16:00.000 I'm 90% sure.
00:16:01.000 You want to pull it up?
00:16:02.000 I believe there are.
00:16:02.000 Yeah.
00:16:03.000 Yeah, I don't think it's even close.
00:16:05.000 Let's get the hard numbers.
00:16:06.000 The number's also going to change really rapidly with the rise of India in general.
00:16:09.000 Do you have the number?
00:16:11.000 No, I'm Muslim country.
00:16:13.000 You guys look for Christian, I'll look for Muslim. 1.00
00:16:16.000 Okay, I'll get it in two seconds.
00:16:17.000 Thanks.
00:16:18.000 1.97 billion Muslims.
00:16:20.000 Okay.
00:16:21.000 Let's do global Christian population.
00:16:26.000 2.2 billion Christians.
00:16:27.000 Oh, wow.
00:16:28.000 I was wrong again.
00:16:29.000 Do you know how many Muslim countries there are with a state religion?
00:16:33.000 Is it 20?
00:16:34.000 Around there.
00:16:35.000 Do you know how many countries have a state religion of Christianity?
00:16:38.000 Probably like two.
00:16:39.000 Five?
00:16:40.000 No, it's a lot.
00:16:40.000 Zero?
00:16:41.000 Vatican's gonna have them.
00:16:42.000 No, a lot.
00:16:43.000 A lot have their state religion as Christianity.
00:16:45.000 Okay.
00:16:46.000 Or they're considered nominally Christian nations due to their population.
00:16:48.000 Okay.
00:16:49.000 How many Jews are on the planet?
00:16:51.000 It's gonna be like 10 million?
00:16:54.000 If you want to do the diaspora and expand, how many Jewish countries are there?
00:16:57.000 There's one.
00:16:58.000 You mean there's like one that's in conflict?
00:16:58.000 Is there?
00:17:00.000 Israel? 0.53
00:17:01.000 Right, but it's in active conflict consistently, and before its creation, how many were there?
00:17:01.000 Israel, yeah.
00:17:06.000 Zero. 0.98
00:17:07.000 So what I tell people is, I think one of the reasons why people are sensitive to this is because, for one, obviously, World War II and all that shit, but also, you're talking about a very, very small population, and, like, why aren't Christians—look, maybe it sounds woke or leftist, but Christians are all over, they're everywhere. 0.98
00:17:31.000 Muslims, they're all over, they're everywhere. 1.00
00:17:33.000 Jewish people, are microscopic relative to these other Abrahamic religions. 0.51
00:17:38.000 So that's, whether you agree with that idea or not, I'm basically pointing out, like, that's the disparity as to why people are like, hey, don't get me wrong, you shouldn't fear for your life because you insulted a Muslim.
00:17:47.000 You shouldn't fear for your life because you've insulted anybody.
00:17:49.000 But this is why, to your point, some people are sensitive to these issues.
00:17:53.000 But it's also the idea that there's lots of groups that if you insult, you have to fear for your job.
00:17:59.000 Like, if you insult gays, you fear for your job.
00:18:03.000 There's lots of populations.
00:18:04.000 Yeah.
00:18:04.000 Black people!
00:18:05.000 Well, my question- Well, let me just point that out.
00:18:08.000 Ye saying this about Jewish people, you know- Like Roseanne is a great example. 1.00
00:18:12.000 I thought the bitch was white. 1.00
00:18:13.000 She makes one joke about Valerie Jarrett. 1.00
00:18:15.000 The show is called Roseanne, and they kicked her off. 1.00
00:18:18.000 And then the Conners, they had her die.
00:18:20.000 Yeah, they literally killed her. 0.95
00:18:22.000 There's that saying that people try and claim was Voltaire, but it wasn't, it was a white supremacist.
00:18:27.000 That if you want to learn who rules over you, look to who you cannot criticize.
00:18:32.000 And then they put Voltaire on it, but it's actually that white supremacist.
00:18:34.000 I think Voltaire would love that. 1.00
00:18:36.000 No, he wouldn't because seven year old disabled children don't run shit. 1.00
00:18:40.000 If you go around saying, fuck those burn ward children, people are gonna be like. 1.00
00:18:43.000 Or crib death. 1.00
00:18:44.000 Yeah, get the fuck out of here. 1.00
00:18:45.000 Like you can't criticize child burn victims or child cancer patients. 1.00
00:18:51.000 So I want to talk about the Jewish, this, this thing, like, is there a Jewish mafia? 0.59
00:18:55.000 Hold on.
00:18:56.000 There was, but I didn't want to cut it off because the Jews, but it's like, look at, look at Sandy Hook. 0.99
00:19:02.000 Yeah.
00:19:02.000 You can't go after those.
00:19:03.000 You know what I mean?
00:19:03.000 Like, I think all of us would agree, regardless of what you think about Alex, it's not a good thing to be like, you guys are lying.
00:19:09.000 Your kids never died.
00:19:10.000 And, and, and they're like, why is it that, that, you know, you, Tim, people were chatting, they were like, Tim bends over backwards to defend, you know, Jews, but he calls out this group.
00:19:19.000 I'm like, bro, I don't like anyone being disparaged based on immutable characteristic.
00:19:25.000 I believe in meritocracy and individualism.
00:19:27.000 That means you can be a gay, black, disabled, lesbian, Jewish woman, and all that matters to me is do you support free speech, are you gonna fight, are you gonna defend the rights of individuals, or are you going to be a cultist who wants violence against other people?
00:19:42.000 I've heard that people say in Judaism that there's... Judaism!
00:19:47.000 I'm gonna be visualizing your face in my dream tonight. 0.91
00:19:51.000 That they say the goyim, which are the non-Jewish people, are they, like, dirty?
00:19:56.000 Like, is there really a thing where they think that they are there to serve the Jewish faith and the Jewish people?
00:20:00.000 Okay, so this is what—they're talking about the Talmud.
00:20:03.000 The Talmud is—so, in the Bible, the Torah, the Jewish Bible, there's 613 commandments?
00:20:11.000 I forget how many there were.
00:20:12.000 It's a crazy number.
00:20:14.000 And they really break it down in insane ways.
00:20:19.000 Like, for example, on Passover, you're not allowed to have bread in your house, okay?
00:20:24.000 What if you're sitting in your house and you see a mouse grab a crust of bread and go into the wall?
00:20:29.000 Does this still count as not having bread in your house?
00:20:31.000 Well, what if you see a white mouse run into the wall with a crust of bread and then a black mouse with a crust of bread runs out of your house?
00:20:37.000 Does that count?
00:20:38.000 So they break down these laws in extreme minutia. 0.97
00:20:42.000 And there's shit in the Talmud apparently, I have not read it, because you have to read it in Aramaic, which isn't even Hebrew, the contemporary language. 0.95
00:20:48.000 So there are these Talmudic scholars, which apparently these anti-Semites also regard themselves as being, and I guess there's things in there that are against the Christians, because this was written during the captivity, and you're kind of this slave population. 0.98
00:20:59.000 I don't know what's in there.
00:21:00.000 I'm going to assume for the sake of argument that all that stuff is in there.
00:21:03.000 I went to Yeshiva Jew School.
00:21:05.000 I have never in my life, and they're going to accuse me of lying, heard any of this idea that people who aren't Jewish are going to be my slaves or my servants or anything like this.
00:21:15.000 This is just, to me, from my personal lived experience, Bunker stuff.
00:21:21.000 I'm sure it's probably in there.
00:21:22.000 You want to hear a friend? 1.00
00:21:23.000 Just like in the Bible, God tells people to literally eat shit. 1.00
00:21:26.000 Go to BiblePoopQuiz.com. 1.00
00:21:27.000 You want to hear a joke?
00:21:29.000 A joke?
00:21:29.000 Sure.
00:21:30.000 A priest, a rabbi, and a mom.
00:21:32.000 And a mom, a priest, and a rabbi walk into a bar because they were friends.
00:21:40.000 I love that joke.
00:21:41.000 I'm still laughing.
00:21:43.000 Serge is laughing.
00:21:46.000 I'll ask the question from earlier again.
00:21:47.000 Is there a Jewish mafia you said there used to be?
00:21:49.000 So the mafia used to be heavily Jewish.
00:21:51.000 Like people think it's the Italian mafia.
00:21:53.000 It was like Meyer Lansky, all these organizations that they were the ones behind organized crime.
00:21:57.000 It's called Murder Inc.
00:21:58.000 So I can title this segment Malice Talks About the Jewish Mafia Says It's Real. 0.97
00:22:03.000 But sure.
00:22:04.000 Now, I guess the question is, is there a Jewish mafia running the banking industry?
00:22:08.000 I went down this rabbit hole, because someone's like, look up who runs the banks.
00:22:12.000 And I'm like, that's a good question.
00:22:14.000 So I looked up the 10 biggest banks in America, and I looked up who all their CEOs were.
00:22:19.000 And I thought, all right, it's going to be like nine of them are Jews. 0.96
00:22:21.000 Everyone reading this should go for themselves.
00:22:24.000 I don't remember how many it was, but it was not a huge number.
00:22:26.000 Not a huge number.
00:22:27.000 No.
00:22:28.000 Is James P. Gorman?
00:22:28.000 Interesting.
00:22:31.000 Jewish?
00:22:31.000 Probably.
00:22:33.000 Look at his Wikipedia.
00:22:34.000 Go look at the 10 biggest banks.
00:22:36.000 This is Morgan Stanley.
00:22:38.000 He's from Melbourne, Australia.
00:22:40.000 He's the CEO and chairman of Morgan Stanley.
00:22:44.000 He's a dual citizen, lives in Manhattan.
00:22:47.000 I don't think it says anything about whether he's... It'll say under upbringing.
00:22:51.000 It'll be at the very top.
00:22:52.000 Early life.
00:22:53.000 Early life?
00:22:53.000 Yeah, right there.
00:22:56.000 Xavier College, bachelor's from... Xavier's Catholic.
00:22:59.000 Uh-oh.
00:23:00.000 Is he Jewish?
00:23:01.000 It's the Catholics!
00:23:02.000 Seamus!
00:23:04.000 Seamus has been pulling the strings the whole time. 0.96
00:23:06.000 It's not the black Israelites, they're the real Jews. 0.99
00:23:08.000 Seamus does have very shifty eyes.
00:23:10.000 Another issue is that you could be born Jewish, culturally, to Jewish parents, bloodline, but not practice the Jewish religion, and so I think that they're different things, they should have different names.
00:23:21.000 Brian Moynihan is the CEO of America and Moynihan, that's a Jewish name, right? 0.90
00:23:25.000 Yiddish, Moynihan. 0.66
00:23:30.000 He's Irish.
00:23:31.000 I think he went to Notre Dame.
00:23:33.000 Yeah, but I don't think it's the CEOs of the banks that are running the banks.
00:23:36.000 I think he's Irish Catholic.
00:23:37.000 I really think the CEOs are the ones running the banks.
00:23:39.000 They're hired to run, I guess you could say run them, but they're not like in control of them.
00:23:45.000 They're in control of it, dude.
00:23:45.000 I don't know how much of it they own.
00:23:47.000 That's what the E stands for. 0.99
00:23:47.000 The CEO even has authority over, like, It could be complicated, but the owners of the shareholders, the shareholders elect board members, board members hire CEOs, and that means if you're not in a voting period, CEOs, the board can do shit. 0.99
00:24:04.000 The CEO's like in charge.
00:24:06.000 But the CEO's hired by the owners to run the company.
00:24:08.000 No, they're hired by the board.
00:24:10.000 There is no owners.
00:24:11.000 The board is part of the ownership.
00:24:12.000 They're shareholders.
00:24:13.000 Right, it's not like there's 10 owners.
00:24:15.000 Well, it's the board.
00:24:17.000 The board is the main ownership of the company.
00:24:18.000 No.
00:24:19.000 The board represents the shareholders.
00:24:21.000 The shareholders are the owners.
00:24:23.000 The shareholders have nothing to do with the day-to-day operations of the company and where they put money.
00:24:27.000 The board doesn't either.
00:24:29.000 The board will appoint, will hire a CEO, and then, that's when they vote. 0.97
00:24:34.000 And then the CEO, for the year, does whatever the fuck they want. 0.85
00:24:37.000 Ian, what does the E stand for? 0.96
00:24:39.000 Executive.
00:24:40.000 Right, so he's the one who executes the business.
00:24:41.000 Yeah, but if the owner doesn't like it, they can fire him.
00:24:43.000 There's no owner!
00:24:44.000 Well, you hired, like for Subverse, you had a different CEO than you.
00:24:48.000 You were the owner, someone else was the CEO.
00:24:51.000 I was the CEO.
00:24:52.000 Until you hired another person to become the CEO.
00:24:54.000 Ian, Tim is in a multinational bank!
00:24:56.000 Or at some point you were considering doing that, and then you could have fired them at any moment's notice, because you're the owner of the company.
00:25:00.000 You can always hire someone else to be your CEO.
00:25:02.000 Ian, Ian, Ian.
00:25:03.000 You are wrong.
00:25:04.000 No, I'm not! 1.00
00:25:04.000 You can hire someone to be your fucking CEO in a company. 1.00
00:25:07.000 Of course you can. 1.00
00:25:07.000 You're the owner. 1.00
00:25:07.000 You are changing the subject. 1.00
00:25:08.000 I'm saying just because the guy's a CEO doesn't mean he runs the company. 0.52
00:25:11.000 He might be executing current mandates and shit, but the owners are the people that- Who owns Bank of America? 0.85
00:25:16.000 I don't know. 0.97
00:25:17.000 I don't know.
00:25:17.000 How deep do you go?
00:25:18.000 BlackRock?
00:25:19.000 Yeah.
00:25:19.000 And what percentage do they own?
00:25:21.000 Like 18, 19.
00:25:22.000 They can't affect operations.
00:25:25.000 They can vote to elect board members.
00:25:27.000 The board then convenes, and it may be ten or so people, it could be less, it could be five people.
00:25:33.000 Then they vote on who they're going to hire as CEO.
00:25:36.000 The chairman of the board may have more power, it depends on the corporate structure. 0.96
00:25:39.000 But when the CEO is hired, they can't do shit about it until they vote. 0.88
00:25:44.000 The board does... Let me pause. 0.90
00:25:47.000 It's very possible That Bank of America's corporate bylaws specifically say the chairman has supreme authority to fire the CEO at a moment's notice.
00:25:55.000 Maybe.
00:25:56.000 But it's very, very unlikely in most corporate structures.
00:25:59.000 The board... Especially when you're dealing with an organization the size of like Citigroup.
00:26:04.000 It's going to be... they want stability.
00:26:06.000 Right.
00:26:06.000 So what happens is the board will convene at certain points in the year.
00:26:12.000 Sometimes they're not even paid.
00:26:13.000 They will then say, I think we should have this person be the CEO.
00:26:16.000 And they do.
00:26:17.000 The CEO then is the chief executive officer who has final say on everything.
00:26:22.000 In fact, the person who actually runs the company is not the CEO.
00:26:26.000 Do you know who it is?
00:26:27.000 Who?
00:26:28.000 The COO.
00:26:28.000 Oh, right.
00:26:29.000 Okay.
00:26:29.000 The chief operating officer actually takes all the actions to execute the vision of the CEO.
00:26:35.000 But the CEO typically might not even be involved in day-to-day operations.
00:26:40.000 They usually are, but it's probably like this. 0.99
00:26:43.000 The COO says, here, we're gonna do all these things, I'm gonna go meet with these managers, you, get off your ass, start filing those paperworks. 0.98
00:26:50.000 Hey, over here. 0.97
00:26:51.000 Then he calls up the CEO and says, we got this done, we got this done, we got this done, we got this done, looks good, see you tomorrow for golf.
00:26:57.000 Yeah, the CEO's been delegated to make decisions for everybody, basically.
00:27:00.000 As long as they have that role.
00:27:02.000 Has the final say on everything.
00:27:04.000 The chief operating officer actually takes the actions of the CEO and the CEO runs it.
00:27:12.000 The board members can eventually vote to fire the CEO later. 0.99
00:27:16.000 And then the shareholders can say that was a huge fuck up. 0.98
00:27:20.000 We're voting the board out. 0.99
00:27:22.000 The shareholders are the owners of the company.
00:27:24.000 Board members are there to represent the shareholders and decide who should be running management, things like that.
00:27:30.000 Twitter, for instance, Dorsey, I think they rehired him as the CEO at some point.
00:27:33.000 And he didn't do anything.
00:27:34.000 Yeah, he only owned like 3% of the company at the time.
00:27:36.000 He had no power.
00:27:37.000 He was the CEO, but he had no power.
00:27:38.000 So don't look at Dorsey's race or religion and say that Twitter's that race company because the CEO is that race.
00:27:44.000 That's my point.
00:27:45.000 Oh, I completely agree.
00:27:46.000 And I think it's insane that they're like, Elon Musk works for the Jews. 1.00
00:27:49.000 So who owns BlackRock, State Street?
00:27:50.000 Wait, wait, wait.
00:27:51.000 No, no, no.
00:27:51.000 Okay.
00:27:51.000 So if you can't look at the CEO or COO of Twitter to determine whether or not this person is Jewish, who would you want to look at to determine that the Jews are running Twitter?
00:28:07.000 Oh, that the company is a Jewish company, you mean?
00:28:08.000 Yes.
00:28:10.000 I made a point about cancellation or something.
00:28:13.000 I can't remember exactly what was said.
00:28:14.000 And then Ye immediately went like, that's just like what the Zionist Jews do. 1.00
00:28:18.000 And I went, you mean the woke SJWs?
00:28:21.000 Because these are white people.
00:28:22.000 They're like white secular city people.
00:28:26.000 And then he just like shrugged it off, I guess.
00:28:28.000 But I immediately was like, Is that what he thinks?
00:28:32.000 He thinks that the white American secular people are Jewish people.
00:28:36.000 But there's a lot of overlap.
00:28:38.000 He's not entirely wrong.
00:28:39.000 You're going to have a lot of Jewish population in these cities.
00:28:41.000 So you're going to have a lot of Jewish representation when it comes to wokeism. 0.58
00:28:46.000 But to have those things be regarded synonymous is not true.
00:28:49.000 My point is that when we talk about the woke cult, There's black people. 0.95
00:28:53.000 Yes.
00:28:54.000 There's people of all different backgrounds.
00:28:56.000 When he hears that, he just hears, it's all Jewish people. 0.84
00:28:59.000 That's the problem with what he's saying.
00:29:01.000 He can't understand.
00:29:02.000 In their worldview, there's three types of people.
00:29:07.000 There are people like them who understand the Jewish problem. 0.96
00:29:10.000 There are the Jews who are running everything. 1.00
00:29:13.000 And there are people who are Jewish controlled. 0.63
00:29:14.000 So only of those two groups, of the three, only two really understand or have minds of their own.
00:29:20.000 And it's like, this is not falsifiable.
00:29:23.000 Did you hear what he said?
00:29:23.000 He was like, look at Obama, Rahm Emanuel's right there.
00:29:26.000 Trump, Jared Kushner's right there.
00:29:28.000 And I'm like, congratulations, you've played Where's the Jew, I guess.
00:29:32.000 What does that mean?
00:29:32.000 But they also didn't have equivalent positions.
00:29:34.000 So it would make more sense to compare Rahm Emanuel, who's chief of staff, to Rens Priebus, who was chief of staff.
00:29:41.000 You know what I think.
00:29:43.000 I also love the idea that Obama and Trump each had like one person that they listened to, and that one person would happen to be the Jewish person in the White House.
00:29:53.000 Like what?
00:29:54.000 There was no cabinet, there were no advisors, Trump never hired Bolton, Bolton must be Jewish, Sheldon Adelson was secretly in control of everything the whole time. 0.83
00:30:06.000 I get concerned that thinking that there could possibly be a group of people that control and own Black Rock State Street, like literally like a small group, 10 people, and that to think that they might be of a certain religion and then they're like, no, if they're not of our religion, get them out of here.
00:30:21.000 We don't want them. 0.97
00:30:21.000 Like, that's disgusting. 0.97
00:30:22.000 But then I'm hearing all these crazy conspiracy theories and they're like, Last week's conspiracy theory is tomorrow's news, and I'm like, am I gonna find out that there was like a religious cabal that was excluding people of the non-religion?
00:30:34.000 Like, I don't want that to be the case.
00:30:36.000 But the people that you're worried about, these kind of internationalist globalist Jews, they are much more concerned with this kind of progressive internationalist globalist ideal than with their kind of Jewish identity.
00:30:49.000 That's the kind of another thing that people like Kanye get wrong.
00:30:52.000 When you look at, you know, the people who go to Davos and the World Economic Forum, their allegiance isn't to someone who's orthodox, you know, someone who's got the yarmulke on or the Ben Shapiro's of the world.
00:31:03.000 It's not at all.
00:31:04.000 Their allegiance is to their own power and to their internationalist cult.
00:31:08.000 Is this like when Jesus went into the temple and started flipping tables? 0.99
00:31:10.000 Because he's like, you're fucking Jewish, but you're trying to make money off people? 0.99
00:31:13.000 Kind of, yeah. 1.00
00:31:14.000 Yeah, he should be coming out saying the women are after him.
00:31:16.000 Yo, it's women, man. 1.00
00:31:18.000 It's women. 1.00
00:31:19.000 Because the media is dominated by females. 1.00
00:31:22.000 Journalists tend to be female. 0.88
00:31:24.000 Democrats tend to be female. 0.63
00:31:25.000 So all that stuff that's coming out, I guarantee you, written by women. 0.99
00:31:28.000 Hey, Kanye, you want to know who they are?
00:31:30.000 Women. 1.00
00:31:30.000 I think you were right when you were saying that identity politics is bullshit. 1.00
00:31:34.000 At one point, identitarianism or something came up. 0.98
00:31:36.000 Not completely.
00:31:36.000 There's a place for it.
00:31:38.000 I don't throw identity politics out the window completely.
00:31:41.000 I'm saying, identitarianism is a problem in a lot of ways.
00:31:45.000 Identity politics, in some ways, are good.
00:31:47.000 Here's the thing.
00:31:48.000 The biggest, most effective anti-immigration nationalist politician was Stephen Miller.
00:31:54.000 who is Jewish.
00:31:55.000 The biggest critic of Israel, by far, in the Senate is Bernie Sanders.
00:32:00.000 So if you're going to make the argument that all Jews, or powerful Jews, all have the same worldview, you can't reconcile that with these two figures. 0.87
00:32:08.000 I said before the show, and this might be a bigger deal than I thought, is that the people that are doing this, that happen to be Jewish, and they're trying to run the world's economics, are just saying they're Jewish. 0.91
00:32:17.000 They're just using that as a mask.
00:32:19.000 They're not even saying it, they're hiding from it.
00:32:21.000 And they're betraying the faith with their actions?
00:32:23.000 Like, is it against the faith?
00:32:25.000 Say you're not a scholar.
00:32:27.000 I'm not a Jewish scholar.
00:32:27.000 I know that.
00:32:29.000 Look at Obama, right?
00:32:30.000 Obama claims that when he was in university, he found Christ, and that's why he was proselytizing all this time in the churches.
00:32:37.000 If you ask most Christians, do you think Obama is someone who lives his life in a godly manner, and who is someone who's sincere in his belief in Christianity, and that informs his worldview?
00:32:49.000 I think most of them would say, okay, that's very much secondary to his vision of progressivism, and it's the exact same phenomenon, in my opinion.
00:32:56.000 What'd you get?
00:32:57.000 No, I was just looking up the CEOs of other companies.
00:33:00.000 I think so, too. 0.95
00:33:01.000 I think it happens to be greedy people that are, maybe they're Jewish or not, I don't know, and that it's getting conflated, and they're like, the Jews are the problem, but we gotta have this conversation publicly. 0.89
00:33:08.000 What he's being tricked into doing is saying, when he says Jewish people are after him, This is what I thought from the Lex Fridman episode, what I had heard.
00:33:20.000 That he was saying, there are people after me who happen to be Jewish.
00:33:25.000 That was, so when that first came out, that he said this stuff, I was like, is that what he was trying to say?
00:33:32.000 Someone, I think I saw online somewhere, people were like, they were saying, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's actually what he clarified.
00:33:36.000 That's what he said, and he even said on the podcast, I mean, it seemed as though there were particular owners of particular media companies that happen to be Jewish, that I'm angry with, and that's why he's using the word, they're Jewish, so he's attacking the Jews in saying so.
00:33:48.000 But then he kept saying, who are they? 0.98
00:33:49.000 And I was like, the corporate press, and he's like, I'm like, bro, Vice, I said this to him, but this is why I think it's bullshit, I think he staged it. 0.89
00:33:57.000 Because before the show, I said, Shane Smith, the billionaire CEO of Vice Media that is woke, leftist, writing smears about you, that dude's Irish from Canada, and he is a billionaire. 0.73
00:34:10.000 Like, how do you explain he has all this power in media? 1.00
00:34:12.000 He's the one that everyone, they were sucking his dick. 0.99
00:34:15.000 Disney, Hearst, all of these companies were going to Vice saying, please tell us how to run the show. 1.00
00:34:20.000 And they gave Vice whatever they wanted.
00:34:21.000 He's not Jewish! 1.00
00:34:23.000 Do you guys think we could have this conversation on YouTube?
00:34:28.000 The reason I can't have this conversation is because I can't win.
00:34:36.000 So if I agree with something that one of these people says, then they like me and I'm a cool dude.
00:34:41.000 But as soon as I say something that they disagree with, oh, should have known better, he's Jewish. 1.00
00:34:46.000 So I don't have space to have my own opinion except insofar as I see things as they do and agree with things as they do.
00:34:54.000 So it's like there's no place for me to go.
00:34:56.000 You were saying you thought there could be a Reformation where you treat the religion of Judaism differently than the culture of Judaism?
00:35:02.000 It's not a reformation, but I mean this is a big conflict among Judaism, meaning like there are people who are nominally Jewish, but it doesn't inform their worldview at all.
00:35:14.000 They use it as a shield when necessary, and it's like, what are you bringing to the table in terms of this informing who you are as a person and being a good person?
00:35:23.000 Let's wrap it up there.
00:35:24.000 Let's do it.
00:35:25.000 Michael, it's always a blast having you around.
00:35:27.000 Next year in Jerusalem.
00:35:29.000 We're looking forward.
00:35:29.000 Yeah.
00:35:30.000 I want to go to the wall, man.
00:35:30.000 Yes, absolutely.
00:35:32.000 The wailing wall.
00:35:33.000 Yeah.
00:35:34.000 Feel that energy.
00:35:35.000 Right on.
00:35:35.000 Yeah.
00:35:36.000 Talk to Taylor.
00:35:37.000 Yeah.
00:35:37.000 All right, everybody.
00:35:38.000 Thanks for hanging out, making it all possible and being a member.
00:35:42.000 We'll see you all next time.