Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Super Tuesday LIVE, Trump To End Haley's Embarrassing Waste Of Time w-Dave Smith | Timcast IRL

00:00:00.000 It is Super Tuesday and we are all here gathered in Martinsburg, West Virginia for our first

00:00:23.000 We're in the actual Cass Brew Coffee building, on the third floor.

00:00:26.000 We've got a great live audience with us today.

00:00:28.000 And we're here to waste time and pretend like there's actually an election happening, because everybody knows Joe Biden's gonna win all the Democrat primary, Donald Trump's gonna win all the Republican primary.

00:00:37.000 But I can't help but think there's something they're doing with Nikki Haley?

00:00:41.000 They've got some kind of plan, maybe?

00:00:42.000 I have no idea.

00:00:44.000 I don't know what she's thinking is going to happen and we're going to go track the exit polls and take a look at who won, I guess.

00:00:54.000 I'll be honest, it's better than what these cable news networks are doing where they're like, we're here to give you real-time results as if there's an actual election happening.

00:01:00.000 But hey, maybe we'll eat crow and Nikki Haley will somehow end up winning something. 0.99

00:01:04.000 Sure.

00:01:05.000 So we're gonna talk about that, plus we've got, uh, we've got other stories to talk about, of course, in politics.

00:01:08.000 I think the exit polls are actually really interesting, because what we are learning, immigration is the number one issue for, uh, for most people right now.

00:01:15.000 Overtaking the economy, which is actually kind of shocking, but I do think it's because immigration ties into the economy, so. 0.89

00:01:21.000 That would make sense.

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00:02:39.000 What's up?

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00:02:54.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else is Dave Smith.

00:02:58.000 What's up?

00:02:59.000 How are you?

00:03:00.000 Ladies and gentlemen, wonderful audience, it's good to be here.

00:03:03.000 This is a...

00:03:04.000 TimCast is filmed in front of a live studio audience.

00:03:09.000 This is a big night for me.

00:03:10.000 I put a hundred grand on Nikki Haley to sweep.

00:03:15.000 Listen, the odds must be amazing.

00:03:17.000 I'm richer than Rogan if I win tonight.

00:03:20.000 But, fingers crossed.

00:03:21.000 Yeah, big one.

00:03:22.000 How many states are there in the Super Tuesday?

00:03:25.000 Fifteen.

00:03:25.000 Fifteen?

00:03:26.000 Yeah.

00:03:27.000 So, you just gotta get fifteen out of fifteen?

00:03:30.000 All I gotta get is fifteen lucky breaks.

00:03:33.000 You had Haley for like a hot second in Vermont, but it switched back the other way. 0.78

00:03:37.000 A hot second.

00:03:38.000 The funny thing is... Oh man, I can't go home to my wife tonight.

00:03:41.000 Yeah, put it all on the line.

00:03:42.000 There probably are betting odds for Nikki Haley to win. 0.99

00:03:45.000 I'd imagine, right? 0.99

00:03:47.000 700,000 to 1 kind of crap? 0.99

00:03:48.000 Yeah, like insane odds. 0.99

00:03:50.000 I gotta be honest.

00:03:51.000 I don't know about 100 grand, but like 10... Now that I think about it, like 10 bucks on Haley to win, why not?

00:03:55.000 If she does, you win 20 bucks.

00:03:56.000 I'm just gonna say, if you threw 10 bucks down on Nikki Haley to win every single primary tonight, I genuinely think, Tim, if it hit, You must be worth more money than Elon Musk.

00:04:08.000 What odds would they give you?

00:04:11.000 You would bankrupt all of these.

00:04:14.000 Actually, you'd get nothing because they'd all just go out of business.

00:04:17.000 You've been in litigation for years.

00:04:19.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:04:20.000 You know, and actually to elaborate, I thought you were going to say if you even placed $10 1.00

00:04:26.000 on Nikki Haley to win all these races, you're an idiot. 1.00

00:04:31.000 Well, yes. 1.00

00:04:32.000 That's true.

00:04:33.000 I would also say that.

00:04:34.000 Yes.

00:04:35.000 That's $10 you can buy a cheeseburger with.

00:04:36.000 Otherwise, you throw it in the garbage.

00:04:38.000 Dave, thanks for hanging out.

00:04:39.000 We're going to have fun.

00:04:39.000 We're going to make fun of Nikki Haley a lot, so that's going to be great.

00:04:41.000 Sure is.

00:04:42.000 Libby's hanging out.

00:04:43.000 I'm hanging out.

00:04:44.000 Glad to be here, you guys.

00:04:45.000 This is really a lot of fun.

00:04:46.000 Gotta love a live show.

00:04:48.000 Yeah.

00:04:49.000 Nana Claire's hanging out.

00:04:50.000 Everyone clap whenever it's like, it's live!

00:04:52.000 There's an audience.

00:04:54.000 Yeah, I'm so psyched to be... I can't talk at all.

00:04:57.000 Do it.

00:04:58.000 I'm so excited to be here.

00:04:59.000 I cannot speak.

00:05:00.000 Really great for my podcasting career.

00:05:02.000 You know, I think it's going to be a very quick night, and really it's just the time zones that are holding us up.

00:05:07.000 That is what's going on.

00:05:08.000 I'm watching this roll in on the New York Times.

00:05:11.000 It's like, next we're going to have Texas.

00:05:13.000 The entire primary so far has been like, all right, polls are open.

00:05:17.000 Trump won.

00:05:18.000 Yep.

00:05:19.000 How is that even possible that we know that already?

00:05:22.000 Our numbers are overwhelming.

00:05:23.000 They called Iowa and it was like point three.

00:05:25.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:05:26.000 Yeah.

00:05:27.000 Trump is good.

00:05:28.000 The poll workers are like, finally a night off early.

00:05:30.000 We'll get out of here.

00:05:31.000 We'll see you guys in four years.

00:05:33.000 We were planning on doing this Super Tuesday event a long time ago, and then Vivek dropped

00:05:38.000 out and then I was like, well, it's still DeSantis.

00:05:41.000 And then he dropped out and I was like, all right, I guess.

00:05:45.000 Yeah, we just called it Tuesday.

00:05:46.000 Uh, Ian's hanging out.

00:05:47.000 Introduce yourself, sir.

00:05:48.000 Hi, everyone.

00:05:49.000 Good to see you guys.

00:05:50.000 I don't know if we got a shout out of this crowd.

00:05:51.000 You have this beautiful, amazing crowd.

00:05:54.000 Good to see you, Ian Crosland.

00:05:55.000 And I'm getting some feedback that there is a lot of echo on these microphones.

00:05:59.000 You may already know.

00:06:00.000 I don't know if that's a problem or not.

00:06:02.000 I think one of my favorite moments from the night already was when one of the members of the audience asked Ian what his astrological sign was.

00:06:07.000 Yeah.

00:06:08.000 Dave Smith commented that you better be in for a long conversation, then Ian asked which, which tropic or something?

00:06:14.000 Tropical zodiac and the sidereal zodiac, they're different.

00:06:17.000 The one's based off the stars, the position of the stars, that's the sidereal zodiac.

00:06:21.000 It was giving, uh, Tucker interviewing Putin, who was like, just give me 30 seconds to explain Russian history.

00:06:26.000 But let me start from the beginning, Hannah Clare, if you would.

00:06:28.000 Right, yeah, in 2000 BC.

00:06:30.000 Alright, let's jump into the news.

00:06:32.000 The big story right now, of course, is it is Super Tuesday, and we've already got a bunch of projected winners.

00:06:40.000 Okay, so I'll just, I'm not going to read any of them, I'm just going to say Biden won all of the Democrat ones already.

00:06:45.000 And, okay, there we go.

00:06:47.000 Is there anything else to add to that?

00:06:48.000 Is there anything else anybody wants to add?

00:06:50.000 No, we don't really have much else to add.

00:06:51.000 Did anyone bet on Dean Phillips?

00:06:53.000 Do we think he's going to have like a breakthrough state tonight?

00:06:55.000 I didn't.

00:06:55.000 He's going to come through?

00:06:56.000 Or is it just Nikki Haley?

00:06:57.000 Who is that guy?

00:06:58.000 I don't know who Dean Phillips is.

00:06:59.000 Who is he?

00:07:00.000 Dean Phillips was running for a second, trying against Biden.

00:07:03.000 Yeah, he's a congressman from Minnesota, and he declared a run against Biden.

00:07:07.000 He's running as a Democrat, and he said basically he's been positioning himself as a moderate.

00:07:11.000 At one point, he was saying, maybe Nikki Haley will be my VP so we can have a unity ticket, which sounds terrible to me, but... Okay, Dave.

00:07:19.000 All right.

00:07:19.000 Nikki Haley is winning in Massachusetts with 0.1% reporting.

00:07:25.000 You're going to be sorry.

00:07:26.000 This band is looking good.

00:07:27.000 You're looking good.

00:07:28.000 Isn't it so funny too that she, uh, she just, she's lost everything except DC, which like if you were working for Trump's campaign, you'd be like, yeah, please give her DC.

00:07:41.000 Yeah.

00:07:41.000 Like, that couldn't paint a better narrative for our guy that everywhere in the country picks Trump except D.C.

00:07:48.000 picks Nikki Haley.

00:07:49.000 I wouldn't be surprised if Trump people were whispering to D.C.

00:07:52.000 Republicans like, vote for Nikki. 0.94

00:07:54.000 Oh yeah, yeah.

00:07:54.000 We want her to win D.C.

00:07:56.000 Because it just says it all.

00:07:57.000 Exactly.

00:07:57.000 By the way, it should be pointed out, I mentioned this before we started recording, but look, the DNC, which is The most corrupt organization in the universe, perhaps?

00:08:08.000 We haven't explored the entire universe, but I think it's safe to say.

00:08:11.000 They, by rigging the whole thing, really robbed us of what could have been a really interesting night if RFK was actually allowed to have a primary with Joe Biden and wasn't forced to go run independent.

00:08:24.000 And I was very interested in RFK's campaign before he went on his national Give a handjob to every rabbi in the country tour.

00:08:35.000 But at the time, nothing?

00:08:37.000 I thought that was pretty good.

00:08:40.000 But I would just say they totally drove him out and that would have actually been, this would have been a really interesting night if it was RFK versus Joe Biden and seeing where the chips fell on that one.

00:08:51.000 I think it might be still comparable to Nikki Haley.

00:08:56.000 Not Nikki Haley.

00:08:56.000 It would have been more than that.

00:08:58.000 He was polling around 20 to 30 percent in a lot of polls, so he wouldn't have been like, you know, I think he would have done something.

00:09:03.000 We have the Republican results map.

00:09:05.000 This is going to shock all of you.

00:09:07.000 Is it?

00:09:08.000 Trump has won every state so far that's got enough that's in.

00:09:12.000 No, that can't be right.

00:09:13.000 And here's the best part.

00:09:14.000 OK, here's the best part.

00:09:15.000 They actually have a color code for Haley and a color code for Trump.

00:09:20.000 Wait, why are they the same color?

00:09:21.000 No, they're different.

00:09:22.000 But they're too close.

00:09:24.000 But it just would have been so amazing if they did not include a color for Haley winning.

00:09:28.000 And they were just like, if it's red, Trump won.

00:09:31.000 Because, let's see, Idaho is in.

00:09:32.000 Trump wins with 85%.

00:09:33.000 Nevada, Trump wins with 99%.

00:09:37.000 Oh, I'm sorry, that's actually not from today.

00:09:40.000 So we're still waiting on a bunch.

00:09:40.000 What we have here are the results so far from all of these other states.

00:09:43.000 So these aren't just now, but Haley's got nothing.

00:09:45.000 I guess DC?

00:09:47.000 There you go.

00:09:49.000 I guess they needed that color one time for Nikki Haley.

00:09:51.000 She's got one.

00:09:52.000 And look at this.

00:09:53.000 Okay, so here we go.

00:09:54.000 Virginia, projected winner is Trump.

00:09:56.000 North Carolina is Trump.

00:09:57.000 And we're still waiting on the rest of the results where they will call it all for Donald Trump.

00:10:01.000 And then we're going to pretend like we're surprised, I guess.

00:10:04.000 I really wish I had, like, an insider scoop from her war room right now of what state they're like, I really, really think we can get Colorado.

00:10:10.000 Like, what state does Nikki Haley's team seriously think they could secure?

00:10:14.000 It's not even to be mean, like, what are the odds here?

00:10:17.000 So many states are backing Trump.

00:10:19.000 I think they could get Vermont, but I don't, I mean, it also doesn't matter if you get Vermont.

00:10:24.000 They could potentially get Massachusetts, right?

00:10:26.000 So they're going to get the East Coast?

00:10:30.000 They could get like a little New England, a little bit of New England.

00:10:33.000 That's what they could get.

00:10:34.000 But it also doesn't matter.

00:10:35.000 It's not enough.

00:10:36.000 Nothing's going to turn the tide.

00:10:38.000 I also don't think the goal of her campaign is to win.

00:10:40.000 The goal of her campaign I think is to pull support from Trump, pull money from Trump, and get in the way of a Trump landslide.

00:10:50.000 I think that's the whole point.

00:10:52.000 I disagree with that.

00:10:52.000 I mean, I think that... You think she has a real point here?

00:10:55.000 I think that the goal of the Nikki Haley campaign, and I think she's actually even made this quite clear, where she's kind of said the quiet part out loud.

00:11:03.000 Like, didn't she say, I think over the last week, she said, like, well, if there are going to be legal cases against Donald Trump, they shouldn't wait till after the election.

00:11:10.000 Well, yes, she did say that for sure.

00:11:12.000 Look, there's been a whole... Obviously, look, as I'm sure almost everyone here knows, Our government is not actually run by elected representatives.

00:11:23.000 What?

00:11:24.000 I'm sorry to shock everyone here, but there are unelected, shadowy figures who have far more power than even the President of the United States has.

00:11:33.000 The head of the Federal Reserve has far more power than the President of the United States has.

00:11:41.000 The head of the CIA has far more power than the President of the United States has.

00:11:44.000 And all of the really powerful people have signaled That under no circumstances will Donald Trump be allowed to be President of the United States again.

00:11:54.000 And Nikki Haley is playing the game of let me hang out here and see if by some other forces Donald Trump is removed and then I get the nomination.

00:12:03.000 But that's the only game.

00:12:05.000 So I don't completely disagree with you.

00:12:07.000 I'm just making the point that I do think she sees a path.

00:12:10.000 It's not an electoral path to victory, but she sees a path of something happens to Trump.

00:12:15.000 He's taken out of the equation and I get the nomination.

00:12:17.000 A procedural path.

00:12:18.000 I love making this reference because it's from a children's show, but I think it's Justice League.

00:12:25.000 Lex Luthor, the comic book supervillain who hates Superman, is running for president, and when one of the heroes confronts him, Luthor says, do you have any idea how much power I would have to give up to be president?

00:12:38.000 It's fascinating to me that even children's programming thinks ten, twelve-year-old boys who watch superhero shows are smart enough to understand your government is not run by politicians but by powerful corporate interests.

00:12:49.000 Yeah, it's unbelievable.

00:12:50.000 And not just, look, obviously there's corporate interests and money interests who have tremendous influence over our government.

00:12:57.000 But I'm saying even within the government apparatus itself, Look, Chuck Schumer famously said the quiet part out loud when he was in an impromptu way on Rachel Maddow's show.

00:13:08.000 This was in 2017.

00:13:10.000 It was, I believe, in January, either December 16 or January 17.

00:13:13.000 It was when Trump was president-elect, before he had been sworn in.

00:13:18.000 And Rachel Maddow, if you ever watch it, she kind of interrupts and she goes, look, this wasn't on the program, but Donald Trump just tweeted this.

00:13:25.000 Have you seen what he tweeted?

00:13:26.000 And he tweeted something criticizing the CIA.

00:13:29.000 And Chuck Schumer, the Senate majority leader, with no hesitation went, 0.99

00:13:33.000 I mean, man, that's really stupid to criticize the CIA because you have, 0.97

00:13:38.000 they have six ways from Sunday to get back at you. And so he just let you know that the 0.99

00:13:43.000 commander in chief dare not criticize his intelligence agencies who work for him

00:13:51.000 because they will ruin you.

00:13:53.000 But by the way, what happened?

00:13:54.000 Oh, yeah, they framed him for treason for three years after that.

00:13:58.000 So that's and then look, just think about the whoever runs the Federal Reserve.

00:14:02.000 I mean, You want to get re-elected or something like that, they could just be like, okay, I'm jacking interest rates up by two points.

00:14:09.000 You're done.

00:14:10.000 You have no shot.

00:14:11.000 That's it.

00:14:12.000 So, look, we all talk about politics and government all the time, and it's like if we're talking about it and you don't recognize this reality, we're almost not even really talking about the thing that we're talking about.

00:14:24.000 This government is not run by the politicians who we elect.

00:14:29.000 That's even right.

00:14:30.000 But whatever.

00:14:31.000 I'm not questioning any elections.

00:14:33.000 I would never do that.

00:14:33.000 Not on YouTube.

00:14:35.000 Every election is legitimate.

00:14:38.000 Are we allowed to now?

00:14:40.000 Don't make claims about it that you can't back up.

00:14:42.000 I'm not making any claims.

00:14:43.000 I'm saying that if elections are even legitimate, Doesn't really matter because none of those people run the government.

00:14:50.000 I think this is really interesting because Nikki Haley, when she gave that speech, you know, her, I am not dropping out speech, which bad luck that you have to even make that.

00:14:59.000 But she said, if, if I were to drop out right now, this would be the longest general election in American history.

00:15:05.000 And I think that's good, right?

00:15:07.000 Like if we stopped worrying about who's going to be the president of families, if we accept that it's going to be a Biden, Trump matchup, any conservative, libertarian, independent

00:15:16.000 could really demand that you hear more specifically who is going to be in your cabinet, who

00:15:20.000 are you going to appoint to these positions of power, what are you going to do to change. We

00:15:23.000 don't want it to just be, oh yes, we'll talk about it later, we need specific names. Because

00:15:27.000 we basically already know these people's platforms. We don't need to go over this again, we need to

00:15:31.000 know what your staffing policy is.

00:15:32.000 Yeah, and I'd like to see more of a matchup between Biden and Trump. Like,

00:15:36.000 we saw them both at the border. I thought that was really fascinating to see both of them and

00:15:40.000 how they both handled that. One was effective and well-spoken and seemed conscious, and the

00:15:45.000 other one did not seem like any of those things. And I think that during the 2020 election,

00:15:51.000 we had a situation where Joe Biden was living in his basement.

00:15:54.000 And spending absolutely no time actually on the campaign trail.

00:15:58.000 When he was on the campaign trail, do you guys remember this?

00:16:00.000 It was like, he would be on a stage, six feet separated from a bunch of Jeeps that were six feet separated. 0.97

00:16:07.000 There were no people, he was debating, you know, he was debating before an audience of Jeeps. 0.95

00:16:11.000 And it was like, there was nothing to, he didn't have to prove anything.

00:16:16.000 But actually standing next to Trump, he would clearly have to prove something.

00:16:19.000 And I think, I'd love to see just more debates between the two of them.

00:16:23.000 How much do you think Jeep paid for that?

00:16:24.000 Probably a ton, right?

00:16:25.000 Yeah, but they were like, hey, can we buy the empty audience area and just put a bunch of cars there?

00:16:30.000 And that's what it was.

00:16:31.000 And it was all Jeep commercials, too, during that event.

00:16:33.000 That's so weird.

00:16:35.000 Biden brought you by Jeep.

00:16:36.000 But look, to your point, I mean... I think we should start remembering what they did to us in 2020.

00:16:41.000 God, I completely agree with that.

00:16:43.000 But to your point, I mean look, what a ridiculous rationalization from Nikki Haley, because the reality is that you're asking people to continue to donate money, to donate their time, to volunteer for your campaign, to come out and cast ballots for you, and there's only really two reasons you could possibly ask for that.

00:17:04.000 Number one is that there's a path to victory, and number two is that Our campaign is spreading some type of message that is important, that is necessary.

00:17:13.000 And what is Nikki Haley's... First of all, there's no path to victory, other than Donald Trump gets arrested or something like that.

00:17:18.000 Or convicted, I should say.

00:17:19.000 He's been arrested.

00:17:21.000 And the message she's spreading is like, hey, you know, the military-industrial complex makes a point.

00:17:26.000 They need our help!

00:17:28.000 Yeah, what is the point of you staying in here? 0.99

00:17:30.000 It's all just, like, completely ridiculous. 0.89

00:17:32.000 That's what concerns me big, big time about it. 0.87

00:17:34.000 Because, like, why would she choose to stay in?

00:17:37.000 There's no reason.

00:17:38.000 She's lost.

00:17:39.000 So someone's chosen for her to stay in.

00:17:41.000 That's exactly right.

00:17:42.000 And why?

00:17:42.000 Not because of the message.

00:17:43.000 They're not given a message.

00:17:44.000 They're just waiting in the wings for something to happen.

00:17:47.000 Maybe it is.

00:17:47.000 Which makes me nervous.

00:17:48.000 Maybe it is what Dave was saying.

00:17:50.000 Maybe they're just waiting for Trump to lose on these lawsuits.

00:17:52.000 But now, at this point, we see that so many of them are going to be delayed.

00:17:56.000 They're not going to be able to decide this stuff before the election at all.

00:17:59.000 You know what I mean?

00:18:00.000 If she dropped out and then Trump were removed from the ballot, could she go back in?

00:18:05.000 Or are you, once you're out, are you out?

00:18:10.000 Theoretically, if nobody reaches the, uh, whatever the 1200 or whatever delegates you need, the RNC gets to pick who the nominee is.

00:18:17.000 There's no like inherent democratic process forced into primary processes.

00:18:24.000 So like they can, the RNC can decide whoever they want the nominee to be at the convention if nobody meets the threshold.

00:18:33.000 I gotta ask Dave a question because we've had many people speculate on this show, but what you said a moment ago is that they will not allow Donald Trump to be president.

00:18:43.000 These people have substantially more power.

00:18:45.000 The question then is, what happens?

00:18:48.000 Is it really simple?

00:18:48.000 Is it Trump gets convicted?

00:18:51.000 It's looking like his trials are going to be delayed well beyond the election, so that's not going to matter.

00:18:55.000 You know, look, we still have... It's a weird thing in the United States of America, right?

00:19:00.000 Like, you have, say, like, the Constitution, and you could read the Constitution and then look at the government that we have right now and recognize that it bears no resemblance to this document.

00:19:11.000 And the truth is that it's a very kind of uniquely American idea.

00:19:14.000 There's lots of countries out there that don't have written constitutions.

00:19:17.000 They just kind of have, like, norms and precedents and things like that.

00:19:23.000 We do still have like these ancient dying structures of some degree of separation of powers of some of these institutions.

00:19:34.000 And you saw this with the Supreme Court the other day, like it was unanimous.

00:19:38.000 Everyone's like, no, there's just, there's no way you can interpret from the constitution that you can just scream insurrectionist and then take someone off the ballot. 0.87

00:19:47.000 You know, like even the liberal justices were like, this is too ridiculous.

00:19:50.000 And so you do still have this process.

00:19:52.000 Look, they can't just bring a charge of insurrection against him and then bring that to court.

00:19:58.000 Because there's no way...

00:19:59.000 He was acquitted of it.

00:20:00.000 Well, but there's...

00:20:01.000 They know.

00:20:02.000 No, he was an acquitted...

00:20:03.000 He was acquitted of...

00:20:04.000 Of insurrection?

00:20:05.000 Yes, he was.

00:20:06.000 When was he ever charged?

00:20:07.000 No, he was charged.

00:20:08.000 He was impeached in Congress.

00:20:09.000 Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:20:10.000 I'm sorry.

00:20:11.000 I'm not talking about being impeached.

00:20:12.000 I know, I know, but this is arguably for a president under the immunity argument.

00:20:16.000 The process goes, an impeachment is effectively the indictment, and then if you are convicted by the Senate, it opens you up to criminal prosecution.

00:20:22.000 Sure, so I was just, I was referring to criminal.

00:20:24.000 I'm saying they couldn't even get him on the impeachment over it, let alone the idea of they could actually bring criminal charges.

00:20:29.000 My point is, double jeopardy might actually apply.

00:20:32.000 Oh, you think because of the impeachment?

00:20:34.000 An argument that's been made is he's already been effectively charged and tried and acquitted.

00:20:40.000 Okay.

00:20:41.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:20:41.000 I'm not a lawyer.

00:20:42.000 I don't know whether that's right or not, but that's interesting.

00:20:44.000 But I'm just making the point that, look, there are these things that they're trying to go through clearly to get him removed from the race. 0.64

00:20:54.000 I don't know exactly how this plays out.

00:20:56.000 I will say that Donald Trump's enemies are the most powerful people in the history of the world.

00:21:08.000 And if you're betting on who wins that bet, that fight?

00:21:11.000 Donald Trump.

00:21:12.000 You know, look, you're saying, yeah, but a lot of the American people support him.

00:21:17.000 Yeah, Dave, but Trump's playing 5D chess.

00:21:20.000 Well, yes, that's what people say.

00:21:21.000 So I would just say that it's certainly, look, if we're just going by democracy, then obviously Donald, look, Donald Trump is clearly going to win the nomination.

00:21:32.000 If we're just going by democracy, it seems like a pretty good bet that he would beat Joe Biden in an election right now.

00:21:38.000 Right now.

00:21:39.000 But there's lots of other factors other than the democratic process.

00:21:42.000 Let me pull up this, this is from NBC News' live tracker.

00:21:46.000 Which of these four issues mattered most in deciding your vote today?

00:21:49.000 And this is for Virginia, Virginia GOP primary voters.

00:21:52.000 Immigration is the most important for Virginia Republican voters.

00:21:56.000 I find that to be particularly interesting.

00:21:59.000 And of course, they're two to one supporting Donald Trump. 1.00

00:22:02.000 We've seen these polls already over and over again that immigration has become the principal issue in this election, which is crazy because of the famous saying, it's the economy, stupid. 1.00

00:22:11.000 Who was it? 1.00

00:22:11.000 Was it Carville who said that? 1.00

00:22:13.000 I don't know.

00:22:15.000 Yeah, I think so. 1.00

00:22:15.000 It's the economy, stupid. 1.00

00:22:17.000 It always comes down to money. 1.00

00:22:18.000 The issue now is immigration is an economic issue and a crime issue. 0.79

00:22:23.000 And, you know, I was talking to a young business owner, I mentioned this the other day on the show, a young business owner said, he's Gen Z, he runs his own business, he works hard every day, and he can't afford rent, he can barely afford to live.

00:22:33.000 And then I said, and these non-citizens they're bringing in, they're being given debit cards, luxury hotels, and he was like, exactly. 1.00

00:22:40.000 Not only that- He said he voted for Biden last time, he's gonna vote for Trump this time.

00:22:44.000 In California, they're getting, uh, you know, houses with no payments down, no interest for a year, no interest loans, all of this stuff.

00:22:51.000 It's absolutely ludicrous.

00:22:53.000 All of this we're doing for people who are coming here from around the world to are taking advantage of the system.

00:22:57.000 We've seen that too.

00:22:58.000 People are like, Oh, I came here cause I could get a whole bunch of free stuff.

00:23:02.000 We don't give free stuff to all of the Americans and Americans for the most part, don't want free stuff.

00:23:06.000 They want the opportunity to work for a living and raise their families and do right.

00:23:10.000 This is actually wild, because I'm talking to this dude, and he was like, you know, the thing is, when they started giving all these illegal immigrants these hotel rooms, they kind of just explained they could have solved the homeless crisis overnight. 0.97

00:23:21.000 But they chose not to.

00:23:22.000 But they chose to give it to the non-citizens instead of solving the homeless crisis.

00:23:25.000 And I was like, don't vote for Democrats!

00:23:27.000 Well, it does, it seems like, look, from my perspective, like, I'm like a radical libertarian, and basically my My philosophical position is that governments are criminal gangs by their very nature and that they're always screwing over their own people.

00:23:42.000 But at least historically, they try to mask that.

00:23:45.000 You know?

00:23:46.000 Like, they try to convince you they're not doing it.

00:23:49.000 And it seems like our government is actively making sure that you know.

00:23:55.000 Like, it's not just that we're screwing you over, but you're going to know and be humiliated by it.

00:24:01.000 And that's a great example of it.

00:24:03.000 Of course, the other example is, look, in San Francisco, when they cleaned up The streets because she was coming in to meet with Biden and they just let you know that they can clean up San Francisco like that if they want to, but they don't care to do it.

00:24:22.000 They even said it because people were like, oh, you're doing this because the fancy people are coming down and Newsom was like, yeah, that's right.

00:24:27.000 We want to look good.

00:24:28.000 Our citizens don't matter.

00:24:29.000 What a slap in the face to the taxpayers in San Francisco.

00:24:32.000 But that's what I think immigration is generally.

00:24:34.000 Yes, it's the same thing.

00:24:35.000 Number one, the reason it's a big issue is because Americans feel disenfranchised with a government that does not care about them.

00:24:41.000 It's criminal, it's economic, but it's also just civic, right?

00:24:44.000 You're saying that people who come here illegally, who do not participate or share the burdens that you do, both ethically, morally, philosophically, are able to take advantage from a system that you helped build, right?

00:24:56.000 You aren't given the same passes that they are.

00:24:58.000 I mean, one of the stories that always comes back to me is I know someone out here in West Virginia who got into like a minor traffic accident and he hit a piece of government property and he was facing jail time and he was standing in front of the judge and the person in front of him was an illegal immigrant and the judge said, hold on, before we go, do you know that you can contact this non-profit organization and they'll set you up with a lawyer and they'll help you and this, that, and the other.

00:25:22.000 Meanwhile, the American citizen who made a mistake, you know, whatever else, Uh, was having to pay for his own legal services.

00:25:29.000 The judge was not nearly as lenient or supportive.

00:25:32.000 And it's this direct comparison of, well, you broke the law, but it's okay.

00:25:36.000 But if you are here and we, as a country, have a duty to serve one another, you are treated as though you're the other, you are the wrong.

00:25:43.000 So the term that, I believe it was Sam Francis who coined the term, but is anarcho-tyranny.

00:25:49.000 That's exactly right.

00:25:50.000 And this is, it perfectly sits, and by the way, you know, I was just, I was on the phone with Michael Heiss, but who's been on the show before too, he's the founder of the Mises Caucus and the Libertarian Party, great guy, totally brilliant.

00:26:01.000 And he literally said this to me, and I never even really made this connection before, but he said to me, he goes,

00:26:05.000 you know, the whole immigration thing, it's just another example of anarcho-tyranny. 0.99

00:26:09.000 It's like, look, if, by the way, for anyone who doesn't know the term, the idea is like,

00:26:13.000 anarchism and tyranny, and even though they seem kind of like opposites,

00:26:17.000 but we kind of live under an anarcho-tyrannical system, where, okay, if you're a homeless guy who wants to do

00:26:25.000 heroin on the street and live there, no one's gonna stop you from doing that.

00:26:29.000 But if you, citizen, want to start a business, there's 5,000 regulations that you will be forced to pass.

00:26:35.000 You know what I mean?

00:26:36.000 It's anarchy for criminals and tyranny for citizens.

00:26:39.000 Right, the worst of anarchy.

00:26:41.000 and the worst of tyranny.

00:26:42.000 And what Michael was pointing out to me when we were on the phone, he goes,

00:26:45.000 look, if you wanna immigrate to this country legally, there's seven million hoops you have to jump through,

00:26:52.000 an impossible bureaucracy, this whole crazy system, but if you just sneak over the border,

00:26:57.000 you're welcomed in and given free stuff.

00:26:59.000 And you're like, that's really the thing.

00:27:00.000 And you get a court date like five years later.

00:27:03.000 So they encourage people in this weird way.

00:27:05.000 It's this crazy perverse incentive where they encourage you to do the thing

00:27:09.000 we don't want you to do, rather than the civilized thing.

00:27:12.000 I think a portion of anarcho-tyranny, like the immigration stuff seems on purpose, like they open the border up, but for a lot of regular crime stuff what I think is police officers Have to confront a violent murderer.

00:27:27.000 Screw that.

00:27:29.000 I'm not taking that risk.

00:27:30.000 Or, a guy who is speeding.

00:27:31.000 Oh, easy.

00:27:32.000 Pull him over, he takes a ticket, then he's on his way.

00:27:35.000 So, for the regular person, it's very much in tune with the gun argument.

00:27:41.000 So, if we were to ban all guns, then of course criminals would still have guns for two reasons.

00:27:46.000 Anybody with a gun becomes a criminal, and criminals never cared in the first place.

00:27:49.000 Right.

00:27:50.000 Now when it comes to the crimes we're seeing at the street level, these people who are looting these stores know the cops are gonna be like, I'm not going in there, there's 20 people looting a store, you want me to fight those guys? 1.00

00:27:59.000 You're nuts! 0.96

00:28:00.000 But then if there's someone who's driving his car and he goes over the lane or whatever on accident, the cop's like, I got him now! 1.00

00:28:07.000 He's going to pull you over and be like, Ooh, I'm going to wag my finger at you.

00:28:10.000 Well, that's definitely true.

00:28:10.000 I got you.

00:28:12.000 That's, there's always been an incentive problem with cops in that way that it's, it's always kind of like, obviously they'd rather deal with the non-threatening criminal than the threatening criminal.

00:28:23.000 Right.

00:28:24.000 But the other thing that you deal with is like, so if you think about like, say, I mean in California and some of their major cities, it's like the most clear example of it, but where they'll D they'll essentially decriminalize shoplifting.

00:28:37.000 Yet if you own the store and you go, okay cops fine You don't want to deal with my shoplifting problem, but I will hire armed security to deal with it myself They go.

00:28:47.000 Well, he's not allowed to have that gun.

00:28:49.000 He's not allowed to deal with them He's not allowed to grab that guy and they will come in and prosecute you if you protect your own property So it's it's like coming at regular people from both angles, intentionally to ruin our

00:29:04.000 society.

00:29:05.000 But why?

00:29:06.000 And I think it's fairly obvious.

00:29:07.000 You saw AOC get hounded by those activists earlier.

00:29:10.000 That was fascinating.

00:29:11.000 Can I just say, by the way, pro-Palestine activist, thank you.

00:29:16.000 Keep it where it belongs.

00:29:17.000 Harass AOC.

00:29:19.000 Stop blocking roads and just harass AOC.

00:29:22.000 That's a better way to deal with the problem.

00:29:24.000 We'll keep it verbatim.

00:29:25.000 I'll keep it literal.

00:29:26.000 They followed her.

00:29:28.000 They didn't even harass her.

00:29:29.000 They followed her and said, will you call what's going on in Palestine a genocide? 0.97

00:29:33.000 And she was like, you're a liar or whatever.

00:29:36.000 I totally forgot what I was going to say because you made that point. 0.96

00:29:38.000 So now we're talking about that.

00:29:38.000 I'm sorry.

00:29:40.000 We were talking about narco-tyranny and crime and stuff.

00:29:42.000 Why?

00:29:44.000 Here we go.

00:29:44.000 I got it.

00:29:44.000 We're back.

00:29:45.000 We're back, baby.

00:29:47.000 Conservatives don't do this.

00:29:49.000 Conservatives will not walk behind.

00:29:52.000 Mitch McConnell walking down the stairs being like, Mitch, why did you do this?

00:29:56.000 Mitch, why did you do that?

00:29:57.000 They fear nothing.

00:29:59.000 In fact, the only thing conservatives fear is leftists.

00:30:01.000 Because you get, what's her face, Maxine Waters?

00:30:04.000 Whatever, being like, confront them, get in their face.

00:30:07.000 And so you'll end up with, you know, Marco Rubio or Ted Cruz at a restaurant.

00:30:10.000 Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

00:30:11.000 Sarah Sanders.

00:30:12.000 And a bunch of leftists will come screaming.

00:30:14.000 If you are on the right, the left will scream at you.

00:30:16.000 If you're on the left, the left will scream at you.

00:30:18.000 And if you are on the right, the right just says, Well, okay, I guess.

00:30:21.000 So what ends up happening?

00:30:23.000 When it comes to enforcement of law, it is really simple.

00:30:27.000 It is conservatives roll with the punches and say, okay, I guess.

00:30:30.000 And the only threat factor for any politician comes from left-wing activists.

00:30:34.000 So you look at this, allsides.com has a really great breakdown of media.

00:30:38.000 All of these news organizations, these aggregators, even Drudge, Are aggregating from left-wing sources.

00:30:45.000 Drudge was the funniest.

00:30:46.000 Because they do pull from some right-wing sources.

00:30:48.000 They do pull stories that tend to be more right-leaning.

00:30:51.000 But it's almost all from left-leaning publications.

00:30:53.000 So, it's a story that's somewhat beneficial to Trump.

00:30:55.000 It's still coming from CNN.

00:30:57.000 And then you look at everybody else.

00:30:58.000 All these other aggregators.

00:31:00.000 Google.com, obviously.

00:31:02.000 Skewing 64% of its results to the left.

00:31:04.000 Why?

00:31:05.000 If any one of these social platforms, you search for it, and they put out a right-wing story, left-wing activists will complain.

00:31:12.000 The analogy I like to give is, it's really, really simple.

00:31:16.000 Back when Twitter was censoring everybody.

00:31:19.000 The way to understand why Twitter put in place a misgendering policy, and why it even comes back, the question is this.

00:31:25.000 Will Dave Rubin lead a band of classical liberals with crowbars and torches to burn down Twitter HQ?

00:31:31.000 No.

00:31:32.000 That will never happen.

00:31:34.000 Will Antifa on the far left.

00:31:36.000 It's already, they've already been attacked several times.

00:31:39.000 They've already protested universities, they've already firebombed buildings.

00:31:43.000 So, anyone who's making a threat assessment is going to be like, these conservatives don't do anything, why do I care?

00:31:49.000 These libertarians don't do anything, why would I care?

00:31:51.000 Yeah, but if we do this, the left's going to get mad, and they'll literally come here with crowbars.

00:31:55.000 Just give them whatever they want.

00:31:57.000 That all piles up.

00:31:58.000 It piles up into policy, it piles up into law enforcement.

00:32:01.000 There's a video of a cop, there's a guy backing away with his hands up from Antifa.

00:32:06.000 Antifa guys are pointing weapons at him.

00:32:07.000 The cops run up and grab him and arrest him.

00:32:10.000 The victim who's backing away.

00:32:11.000 Why?

00:32:11.000 Because the cops are thinking something really simple.

00:32:14.000 If I arrest one Antifa guy, the rest will throw stones at me.

00:32:18.000 If I arrest this one guy who's backing away, they'll cheer for me.

00:32:21.000 We saw this in Canada with Dan Dix.

00:32:24.000 He was filming, far leftists attacked him.

00:32:26.000 He's a journalist.

00:32:27.000 And the police said, you need to leave.

00:32:28.000 And he goes, me?

00:32:29.000 I'm the victim.

00:32:29.000 And they were like, so what?

00:32:31.000 Because the cops are like, if you stay and we try to enforce the law, they will attack all of us.

00:32:37.000 So we'd rather target you.

00:32:38.000 And the warning I've made, which we've already seen, is that if these riots expand into the summer again, because it wanes in the winter and comes back in the summer.

00:32:46.000 Granted, Summer of Love was something else.

00:32:48.000 But when riots come, eventually they come to your house, and the police are going to be standing there looking at rioters outside your home, and you and your family inside, and they're going to be thinking to themselves, how do we stop the chaos?

00:33:01.000 And they're going to come to the easiest conclusion ever.

00:33:04.000 They're going to say, arrest the guy in his home, because it's one arrest, he won't resist, and then the rioters will not act out.

00:33:12.000 This happened in, I think it was in Wisconsin.

00:33:14.000 I believe it was outside of Milwaukee.

00:33:17.000 Far leftists had been protesting in front of a guy's house.

00:33:21.000 This same group of people had set fire to another house.

00:33:25.000 The guy in his home brandished a shotgun.

00:33:28.000 I don't recommend you do that, but he did.

00:33:30.000 So the police showed up, to the cheers of Black Lives Matter, and arrested the man from his own home.

00:33:36.000 This will only get worse unless we recognize... I certainly don't recommend doing what the left does in terms of violence and extremism.

00:33:44.000 Absolutely not.

00:33:45.000 They would seek to weaponize those actions.

00:33:46.000 But organization is what needs to happen.

00:33:48.000 Yeah, well look, I mean, so, I think you're right about everything.

00:33:52.000 Right?

00:33:52.000 And so... Always.

00:33:53.000 Thank you, Dave.

00:33:53.000 Well, I'm not going to say always, but that last rant was totally right.

00:33:58.000 Well look, this has always been true to some degree, right, that there is an advantage inherently when it comes to activism that the left-wing has over the right-wing.

00:34:08.000 Because right-wingers have things that left-wingers don't have.

00:34:12.000 Silly little things like jobs and families.

00:34:15.000 And so they don't have, they're not just going to go protest all day, you know?

00:34:19.000 Of course.

00:34:20.000 But specifically in this situation, I think for anybody who's not a left-wing progressive, you know, not a woke progressive or whatever, you have to recognize that like, okay, this is the situation.

00:34:31.000 The system is rigged against you.

00:34:33.000 If you try to, part of the reason why you're saying you don't advocate that the right embrace the tactics of the left is number one, we don't stand for that, it's wrong.

00:34:44.000 But number two, because you'll just be treated like January 6th, not like the summer of love.

00:34:51.000 They'll use you as an excuse to crack down on all of our civil liberties and they'll put you down with force, so it won't work anyway.

00:34:58.000 So what you have to do is recognize that and then go, OK, well, what is the strategic way to fight this battle?

00:35:04.000 And are we winning?

00:35:05.000 Well, I will say there's been a few, particularly last year, there were a couple of major successes, which I do consider major successes, with Bud Light and Target.

00:35:16.000 And that organized boycotts are very powerful, despite the fact that this whole economy is run off fiat money and all of this kind of fake, you know, Nonsense, they still do need customers a lot of these big and the right half of America has a lot of purchasing power And so that's a very powerful way to do it So why did those boycotts work in a way that other efforts haven't I think there just haven't been like strategic efforts like that before

00:35:44.000 I don't think there was actually a line where almost every influential right winger was like, hey, we're just... And look, by the way, there's been a million things that were affronts to right wingers and their liberty and their decency more than putting Dylan Mulvaney on that Bud Light.

00:36:00.000 But the gender thing is really what... No, no, no, but for whatever... I'm not saying the gender thing in general.

00:36:05.000 I'm just saying that thing...

00:36:07.000 just happened to like strike a nerve enough that it was it was such a thing that Bud Light was not

00:36:13.000 for those people and you were coming into their space and it just struck a nerve that they were

00:36:18.000 like you know what we're making this our thing and they've got Bud Light is sponsoring Sean Strickland

00:36:24.000 and Shane Gillis now. That's how much they backed off. One quick correction or context,

00:36:29.000 it was not that Bud Light put Dillmulvaney in a can.

00:36:32.000 It was that Bud Light hired Del Moveni to promote a sporting event to sell beer to children and paid six figures reportedly.

00:36:39.000 Yes, you're right, and that it was like a few specialty cans.

00:36:43.000 Mocking March Madness.

00:36:45.000 Yes, it was just too much of an intentional, like, we're just trying to poke at you, that it elicited that reaction.

00:36:53.000 I think it's really simple.

00:36:55.000 The right had been truly the silent majority, as many people had said.

00:36:59.000 And so, when people look to culture, the only thing they see is wokeness.

00:37:05.000 And so they assume, that's the game we gotta play, and then, whoopsie, turns out most people are sick of it.

00:37:11.000 Yeah.

00:37:12.000 So Bud Light, they lost $10 billion in sales, $30 billion in market cap.

00:37:18.000 A lot of money to lose because you hired some millennial woman to run your marketing and then she decided the fret bro days of Bud Light are over. 1.00

00:37:26.000 And she was so proud of herself.

00:37:27.000 She was so excited about it.

00:37:29.000 But she precipitated it.

00:37:30.000 Yes.

00:37:31.000 Yeah.

00:37:32.000 She got fired. 0.97

00:37:34.000 She got fired for sure. 1.00

00:37:36.000 She got put on leave.

00:37:37.000 Well, I mean, I was going to say, the majority of presidents have been a member of fraternities. 0.98

00:37:41.000 I mean, if you think of all those guys in downtown New York City and they were like, you know, stealing British cannons and blowing shit up. 0.98

00:37:47.000 It's a boys club. 0.86

00:37:48.000 Okay, so guys, we do have a bunch of results and I don't want you to look at that.

00:37:52.000 I'm curious.

00:37:53.000 So we've got Virginia, North Carolina, Oklahoma, Tennessee have been called for Trump.

00:37:57.000 I'm curious, Tennessee, what's the margin you think Trump won by?

00:38:01.000 98%.

00:38:01.000 That's a bit high.

00:38:02.000 No, I'd say... Wait, it's 72%?

00:38:05.000 It's been called?

00:38:06.000 It's been called, but all... So as of right now, what do you think the margin is they've called Tennessee for Trump?

00:38:11.000 30 points.

00:38:12.000 30 points?

00:38:13.000 It is 80% to Haley's 16.4.

00:38:13.000 Yeah, that's what I'm looking at.

00:38:17.000 A bit more than 30 points.

00:38:19.000 To be fair, to be fair, only 4% is in.

00:38:23.000 But she has been losing by wider and wider margins ever since she made that I'm not dropping out speech.

00:38:28.000 I mean, it was, it was like, what, just over 50, Trump got just over 50% in New Hampshire, or Iowa, then New Hampshire, and now, what was South Carolina, like 68%?

00:38:39.000 Hold on, Vermont is too close to call.

00:38:41.000 They're separated by one vote in Vermont.

00:38:46.000 And I just want to take the time to point out to Luke Rutkowski who kept saying New Hampshire is the place to be.

00:38:52.000 And New Hampshire, Nikki Haley got 43% and Vermont is next door and I said, I don't trust New Hampshire because it's surrounded by the far left.

00:39:01.000 And then Luke, sure enough, moves to Florida instead.

00:39:04.000 So, Luke.

00:39:07.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't, listen, I don't want to, my New Hampshire people are going to get mad at me.

00:39:11.000 I think they have an open primary there where, like, Democrats and Independents can vote.

00:39:14.000 And they outright said they were Democrats.

00:39:16.000 Yeah, yeah, so it's a little, you know, like, tricky to see what exactly was going on there.

00:39:21.000 I will say that, look, there's been a lot of governors who have run for president.

00:39:25.000 There's been governors that have won the presidency before.

00:39:28.000 It's a It's a really rough sign if you can't carry the state you were a governor of.

00:39:34.000 Oh yeah.

00:39:34.000 It's pretty bad.

00:39:36.000 Even John Kasich, who had no other claim, he could at least say, hey look, the state where I governed them, they liked me, and they picked me, and that could kind of at least let you leave without being totally humiliated.

00:39:51.000 A little bit of dignity.

00:39:54.000 Finish that thought.

00:39:55.000 No, no, that was it.

00:39:56.000 When you lose by double digits the state you were a governor of, it's... And I think that's your point, why the margins widened after that.

00:40:06.000 NBC News, with 0.2% reporting in Arkansas, it says it's too early to call, but they've still, they just called it for Trump.

00:40:13.000 Yeah, there it is.

00:40:15.000 With 0.2% in, Arkansas has been called for Trump.

00:40:17.000 I want to point out, they gave him the delegates before even calling the race.

00:40:20.000 That was pretty funny.

00:40:21.000 Trump's getting them.

00:40:22.000 But they still haven't called Texas, even though, you know, it's going to go for Trump.

00:40:27.000 Well, 0.2% is just so early.

00:40:28.000 Texas wants to get up to at least 1%.

00:40:30.000 Right, they want to go.

00:40:31.000 How can you call it for a guy at 0.2%?

00:40:33.000 Yeah, listen, this has been happening a lot.

00:40:36.000 Ian, we called it for Trump before the show started.

00:40:37.000 That's true, too.

00:40:39.000 Yeah, we did.

00:40:39.000 I will say, um, and maybe I did take AP statistics, but it was a long time ago, man.

00:40:45.000 And I don't, I will say, I don't exactly understand how you could possibly call races where there's 1% in.

00:40:50.000 They rely on exit polling.

00:40:52.000 I know it's a, well, it's a mix of the exit polling and what the, um, what the, the districts that haven't come in yet and what they kind of know the numbers already, but it does seem a little bit ridiculous.

00:41:02.000 You would think if you're being a professional, you could never with 1% in just call a race off.

00:41:08.000 Look, the overwhelming narrative here is that Donald Trump is incredibly popular amongst Republican voters.

00:41:19.000 The majority, somewhere between the majority to the overwhelming majority, depending on what poll you go by, of Republicans believe that the last election was stolen from Donald Trump.

00:41:34.000 I'm not saying that's the case.

00:41:35.000 I like Glenn Greenwald's framing.

00:41:37.000 I think it was rigged more than it was stolen, but whatever.

00:41:41.000 They think the election was stolen.

00:41:43.000 So you have a Republican base where the majority of people believe that he is the rightful president of the United States of America.

00:41:52.000 And in that, and there are a couple of them here, and in that scenario, how you're going to beat somebody in a primary is a near impossible task.

00:42:03.000 She would get substantially more respect from Trump voters if she came out and when they were like, what is your policy position and why are you better than Trump?

00:42:11.000 And she went, I'm not better than Trump.

00:42:13.000 I'm just, he's going to go to prison and then it's my turn.

00:42:16.000 People would be like, well, you know, okay, I guess that makes sense.

00:42:19.000 Instead, she's lying and insulting Joe.

00:42:21.000 She's saying that she may not honor the RNC pledge, the loyalty pledge.

00:42:25.000 But she didn't say that.

00:42:26.000 She said, I can't think about it right now.

00:42:28.000 No, she could have said she couldn't.

00:42:29.000 There's no way to say that she's going to honor the pledge without admitting that she's already lost.

00:42:34.000 She could have said, that's what I pledge and I will stand by my word no matter what happens, although I expect to win and every state and make Dave Smith very rich.

00:42:43.000 I do think that you're right.

00:42:44.000 I think it's weird that she didn't take a more definitive stance.

00:42:46.000 She was like, I can't think about that right now.

00:42:48.000 But what she did say was that the RNC then is not the same RNC as it is now, which I do think that that was pretty telling, that she's basically admitting that the Republican Party is moving entirely away from Her establishment neocon set up and it's moving, you know, fully definitively toward the populist MAGA movement.

00:43:07.000 What I'm really interested in in this general election is I think that we have Biden voters and we have Trump voters who have completely different visions for the country and I don't think like when I was a kid.

00:43:21.000 I think there was a lot of cases where you had disagreements between Republicans and Democrats, like my stepmom was a Democrat, my dad was a Republican, they would sit there at the dinner table and argue about Ronald Reagan or whatever else, but they had the same idea of what the country should be.

00:43:36.000 You know, the country should be, you know, there should be God in the country.

00:43:40.000 There should be good public schools.

00:43:42.000 There should be, you know, reasonable border.

00:43:44.000 We should have a strong military.

00:43:46.000 They thought all that stuff.

00:43:47.000 Mostly what they were arguing about was like, how much social safety net should there be?

00:43:51.000 You know, that was basically the question.

00:43:53.000 How much should we defend other countries?

00:43:55.000 That kind of stuff.

00:43:56.000 But I think we're in a situation now where the left and the right do not have any kind of unified vision for what the nation should be.

00:44:03.000 And I would like to see Biden say what he thinks, or whoever's pulling his strings, say what he thinks the future of the country should look like and what Trump says the future of the country should look like, and let the American people decide what vision of the future for our nation, because it's our nation, that we want to see.

00:44:22.000 I was just saying, it's not even that we have different visions for what the future should be.

00:44:26.000 I mean, I totally agree with you, but it's that we're living in different realities.

00:44:32.000 I believe the reality I'm living in is actual reality, but did you see just the other day when Dr. Phil was on The View?

00:44:41.000 And he just mentioned at one point how closing the schools was totally obviously not the right move in hindsight, and it had all these negative externalities for little kids, and they were never really at risk of getting them.

00:44:51.000 And the ladies on The View were like, they had never come in contact with this argument. 0.97

00:44:56.000 Right.

00:44:56.000 Like, they still at this point don't recognize that, oh yeah, the lockdowns were a total mistake.

00:45:01.000 But you have.

00:45:02.000 Yeah.

00:45:02.000 This is the frustrating thing about the reality.

00:45:07.000 It's flowing in one direction.

00:45:09.000 Democrats have not been exposed to arguments being made on shows like this, and people on shows like this have been exposed to it all. 0.94

00:45:17.000 One of the best examples, holy crap, this Bill Maher clip.

00:45:20.000 I gotta pull this clip up.

00:45:22.000 Let's do a segment on this because I gotta rag on Bill Maher more for the day.

00:45:25.000 I didn't rag on him enough.

00:45:28.000 He needs to retire.

00:45:29.000 He is 68 years old.

00:45:30.000 He's been doing the show for a long time.

00:45:32.000 Shout out and congratulations to all your success.

00:45:34.000 I'm scrolling down looking for this clip.

00:45:36.000 And this is just, this is obscene.

00:45:38.000 Let me play this clip for you guys and you're gonna laugh.

00:45:42.000 CPAC.

00:45:43.000 Do you know what that is?

00:45:44.000 Is this playing out there too?

00:45:45.000 Conservative... What is it?

00:45:46.000 Unfortunately.

00:45:47.000 Political Action Committee.

00:45:48.000 Political Action Committee.

00:45:49.000 Okay.

00:45:50.000 It's their big convention every year.

00:45:52.000 It's like corporations have a big convention.

00:45:54.000 They have their big convention.

00:45:55.000 I've made jokes about it every year.

00:45:57.000 I can't remember the last time we did it.

00:45:59.000 It goes way back.

00:46:00.000 I remember once calling it the Woodstock for the Mentally Impaired.

00:46:08.000 I'd just like to take a quick moment and make sure we put a pin in that. 0.55

00:46:11.000 He said, Woodstock for the mentally impaired. 0.77

00:46:13.000 That's CPAC.

00:46:14.000 And now, enjoy the rest of the clip.

00:46:18.000 But in years past, it was like the most conservative commentators and senators and governors and... Okay, this year, there's a guy, I've heard this name, I don't know who he is, Jack Prozobic.

00:46:31.000 He's doing sort of like a roundtable discussion, you know, it's a convention, they have these things.

00:46:37.000 This is a quote.

00:46:38.000 Welcome to the end of democracy.

00:46:40.000 We are here to overthrow it completely.

00:46:43.000 We didn't get all the way there on January 6th.

00:46:46.000 But we will endeavor to get rid of it.

00:46:48.000 Am I missing an irony here?

00:46:49.000 Am I missing a joke?

00:46:52.000 Or is it, it seems now, they are saying the out, the quiet part out loud?

00:46:58.000 Yeah.

00:46:59.000 That they are not, this is SIPA, this is their big, this is Republican, Conservative, their big convention, and you have a guy like this and the crowd is loving it.

00:47:08.000 Welcome to the end of democracy, we're here to overthrow it.

00:47:11.000 January 6th was good, now we're gonna finish the job?

00:47:15.000 Thoughts?

00:47:15.000 It's scary.

00:47:16.000 Thoughts on that?

00:47:18.000 Bill, that was a joke about Trump making a joke about being a dictator day one in office.

00:47:23.000 That is an ironic take on how the liberal media sees conservatives.

00:47:27.000 Well, that was my question.

00:47:28.000 Am I missing the irony?

00:47:29.000 I think so, yes.

00:47:30.000 It's a joke.

00:47:31.000 Really?

00:47:31.000 He's so embarrassed.

00:47:32.000 I mean, more to the point.

00:47:34.000 Tim, Tim, don't stop it.

00:47:35.000 Play it to the end.

00:47:36.000 Keep your day job, Jack.

00:47:38.000 That's the worst part.

00:47:39.000 That's it.

00:47:40.000 By the way, to keep your day job is the worst part of the whole thing. 0.97

00:47:43.000 Because even after he's exposed, he still tries to go, well, your joke sucked.

00:47:49.000 And you're like, no, dude, you didn't get it. 0.54

00:47:51.000 You got it totally wrong.

00:47:53.000 You should feel bad about yourself.

00:47:55.000 I think the response from me is, Bill, quit your day job.

00:47:58.000 Okay, you're past your prime.

00:48:00.000 It's a huge blunder.

00:48:03.000 But I'll tell you what happened, is Jack Posobiec made a very obvious joke Where he was mocking the liberal press's interpretation of January 6th, he was laughing while he said it, the audience laughed, and then CNN ran it as if it was a real quote without showing the clip.

00:48:21.000 You get a guy on TV being like, and now they're saying, did you see this?

00:48:24.000 The guy's saying they want to overthrow democracy, and that they want to finish the job they didn't get done on January 6th.

00:48:29.000 Then some research intern for Bill Maher writes it down on a card and hands it to him.

00:48:35.000 Bill Maher never saw the clip, never googled the clip, reads it and goes, am I missing something here?

00:48:39.000 They're just saying the quiet part out loud.

00:48:41.000 And Bhatia Angarsargon goes, it's a joke. 0.96

00:48:43.000 And he goes, oh. 1.00

00:48:45.000 Whoa, it's a stupid joke. 1.00

00:48:46.000 Well, and that's the worst part. 1.00

00:48:48.000 I mean, shout out to Batya. 0.53

00:48:50.000 She's great, Batya's fantastic.

00:48:52.000 Two quick points right here, okay?

00:48:54.000 Okay, number one, it goes exactly to the point that you were just making about how people who watch shows like this are familiar with the progressive argument, because how could they not be?

00:49:04.000 It's the dominant argument.

00:49:05.000 We made fun of them all the time.

00:49:06.000 Right, right, we couldn't not be.

00:49:07.000 And by the way, if you don't believe, Jonathan Haidt has actually done like academic studies on this where the left-wingers will like they cannot tell you what the right-wing argument is whereas the right-wingers can tell you what the left-wing argument is and this just proves the point that just imagine what a caricature you would have to have in your mind that even if someone were to say to you hey someone at CPAC got up and said January 6th was great and we're gonna go further and we're gonna overthrow democracy you'd be like

00:49:36.000 My eyebrows raised by that?

00:49:38.000 Like, that doesn't sound like that could have been what happened.

00:49:41.000 Number two, just a personal story very quickly about Jack, who I do not know very well.

00:49:47.000 But I will say this.

00:49:48.000 I had this, uh... So, about last year at some point, there was a video of Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

00:49:56.000 Again, this is back before all the Israel stuff, when I really liked him. 0.96

00:50:00.000 And...

00:50:01.000 He, there was this video that was totally taken out of context of him when he made his speech that he was announcing he was running for president.

00:50:08.000 He talked about the war in Ukraine, and he basically kind of like, he had like a disclaimer up front, and then talked about why the war was a total sham, and why we shouldn't be supporting them.

00:50:19.000 And people just clipped the disclaimer.

00:50:22.000 and didn't play the second part, and that it was making it seem like he was supporting the war in Ukraine,

00:50:27.000 whereas really he came out totally against the thing.

00:50:30.000 And Jack tweeted the clipped portion.

00:50:34.000 And I quote tweeted him, and I was like, this is totally taken out of context, this is not at all

00:50:39.000 what happened, and here's the full version.

00:50:41.000 And Jack, who I've never met before, direct messaged me, and went,

00:50:46.000 dude, I got it wrong.

00:50:47.000 I fell for it.

00:50:48.000 I saw the full version.

00:50:49.000 You're absolutely right.

00:50:51.000 He deleted his tweet.

00:50:52.000 He retweeted my quote tweet and then said, Dave was right.

00:50:57.000 I got this wrong.

00:50:57.000 I'm going to delete my tweet and leave this one up here because this reflects accurately what he said.

00:51:03.000 So we're all wrong sometimes.

00:51:05.000 But the thing to do is just go, oops. 0.99

00:51:08.000 OK, I just kind of made a jerk out of myself. 0.99

00:51:10.000 I got that wrong. 0.98

00:51:11.000 It's OK.

00:51:11.000 But Bill Maher's reaction is, well, don't quit your day job.

00:51:14.000 Like, nah, dude, come on.

00:51:16.000 You got this wrong.

00:51:17.000 He got caught with his pants down.

00:51:19.000 So just admit it.

00:51:20.000 Everybody got it wrong, and they wanted to get it wrong.

00:51:22.000 I mean, Bill Maher wanted to get it wrong.

00:51:24.000 No, no, no.

00:51:25.000 For Bill, it's worse than CNN.

00:51:27.000 With CNN and MSNBC, they know what they're doing.

00:51:30.000 Bill Maher is sleeping till 2, smoking pot.

00:51:34.000 He wakes up and they go- I meant Chelsea Handler and Seth Rogen.

00:51:37.000 Yeah, and they hand him his cards and he goes, oh wow, someone said that, huh?

00:51:40.000 And then he goes on his show and goes, wow, can you believe they said this?

00:51:43.000 And you see how embarrassed he looks.

00:51:45.000 And when she's like, that was a joke about Donald Trump saying he was going to be a dictator for a day and how the liberal media responds.

00:51:52.000 And Bill's like, well, that's what I was asking.

00:51:53.000 I was asking if there was an irony there. 1.00

00:51:54.000 I mean, it's a stupid joke anyway. 0.91

00:51:56.000 See, it makes me think his staff is, like, trying to keep him from the clips, and they're like, just read the card, no context, don't look at Twitter, don't look at anything, don't look at this at all, because there is someone malicious saying, oh my gosh, this quote is so crazy if we say it like it's serious. 0.98

00:52:10.000 He might fire somebody over this.

00:52:11.000 He should! 1.00

00:52:12.000 They set him up to look like an idiot. 1.00

00:52:14.000 But it's his fault! 1.00

00:52:14.000 Otherwise, he's just an idiot. 1.00

00:52:15.000 Dude, you have to be so uninformed and so not engaged with what the other side is actually saying for you to even, like, if you got that card, You'd be like, wait, hold on. 1.00

00:52:27.000 They actually said that?

00:52:29.000 Like, that doesn't make sense.

00:52:31.000 If someone came to me and said that, like, Cenk Uygur of the Young Turks came out in a show screaming, saying Donald Trump should be sent to a Soviet gulag so he can spend time with his Russian buddies, I'd be like, was he joking?

00:52:43.000 Because even though I disagree with the guy, that's so over the top.

00:52:47.000 That I wouldn't immediately assume he was being literal that there are Soviets in Russia right now.

00:52:51.000 And if someone said to you, they go, no, no, he was being literal, take this on the show.

00:52:57.000 You'd go, I'm gonna have to see this clip before I go on my show and declare that this was literal.

00:53:03.000 When people told me that Keith Olbermann claimed to urinate from his eyes, I did not believe that he would actually say that.

00:53:09.000 Well, that was actually sort of amazing though, wasn't it?

00:53:12.000 And so I looked up his tweets, And he didn't literally say that he urinates from his eyes.

00:53:16.000 Yeah, but he did imply it.

00:53:17.000 Someone said, you're crying.

00:53:18.000 He says, those aren't tears, that's urine.

00:53:20.000 And people went, so you're pissing from your eyes. 0.67

00:53:22.000 And it's like, a new meme has been born.

00:53:24.000 Why would that be better?

00:53:25.000 I was sort of joking that someone had peed on Keith Olbermann.

00:53:28.000 Again, none of it is good.

00:53:30.000 There's no good saying for that. 0.77

00:53:32.000 There's no good scenario where you have a bunch of pee on your face.

00:53:35.000 Let's be real. 0.97

00:53:36.000 When I was first told, for the first time, That Cenk Uygur made a defense on his show for engaging in intercourse with animals.

00:53:45.000 I did not believe it!

00:53:47.000 And I'm like, come on!

00:53:48.000 And then I watched the clip to verify it, and it is correct.

00:53:52.000 Cenk Uygur, at some time, I think 10 years ago, made a full-throated defense of people having intercourse with animals.

00:53:59.000 It was a different time.

00:54:01.000 Yeah!

00:54:02.000 There are different norms.

00:54:03.000 And I don't know the point he was trying to make, but even his old staff groan or whatever.

00:54:09.000 I'm not trying to bring this all up and just drag Jenk again. 0.97

00:54:12.000 My point is, there have been many absurd claims that have been made, and we fact check them.

00:54:17.000 We get the clips, we get the receipts.

00:54:19.000 But this is, I think, indicative of... It's an example of how this culture war happens.

00:54:25.000 We're always sharing clips and memes and photos.

00:54:27.000 They're just saying things and agreeing with each other.

00:54:30.000 They'll just say it.

00:54:31.000 Bill Maher will say, yeah, that thing happened, and they'll all just laugh.

00:54:33.000 I mean, look at the reaction.

00:54:34.000 Who's the guy?

00:54:35.000 Who's the other guy?

00:54:36.000 I don't know who the other guy is sitting there right there.

00:54:38.000 He looks familiar.

00:54:38.000 Who is that?

00:54:39.000 He does look familiar, but I don't know him either.

00:54:41.000 Who is that?

00:54:43.000 Tim Ryan, right?

00:54:44.000 Yeah.

00:54:45.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:54:45.000 I thought that's who it was.

00:54:46.000 And he's just like, it's scary.

00:54:48.000 It's like, my dude, even if like Bhatia clearly knows what the segment was and understands.

00:54:54.000 But Bhatia always knows what's going on.

00:54:55.000 She's very smart.

00:54:56.000 No, that's my point.

00:54:57.000 She knows.

00:54:58.000 If I was sitting there and someone made the claim that a leftist called for burning down the White House or something, I'd be like, what?

00:55:04.000 Like, Cenk, you could really say that?

00:55:06.000 I'm gonna have to check that one because I don't know if I believe that.

00:55:07.000 Show me the clip.

00:55:09.000 Like, if I was Tim Ryan there, and Bill Maher said they want to overthrow democracy, I'm like, isn't that a little on the nose, Bill?

00:55:15.000 Sounds kind of like he's being sarcastic.

00:55:17.000 Why is he reading off a card?

00:55:19.000 Why don't they just split?

00:55:21.000 Look, we've been kind of... They're not as advanced as shows like us.

00:55:24.000 Oh, I understand.

00:55:25.000 Look, the United States of America, for the last 20 plus years, okay, has been living in what Glenn Greenwald called at one

00:55:35.000 point an emergency legal climate.

00:55:39.000 Right? So when you think about that in the wake of September 11th, they passed things like the

00:55:44.000 Patriot Act. And even in the immediate wake of 9-11, the Patriot Act was still considered somewhat

00:55:52.000 controversial.

00:55:53.000 There were still some people who were like, wait a minute, we're kind of signing away very basic constitutional protections.

00:56:00.000 And so what they said was like, oh, there'll be like a sunset.

00:56:04.000 Clause in this, and it will expire in a few years, and then Congress will have to come back and argue that the emergency is still going on and that's why we need to extend it.

00:56:15.000 But that, it just gets extended.

00:56:17.000 Sometimes it's put under a different name, but it still just gets extended.

00:56:20.000 The TSA is still here.

00:56:22.000 The Department of Homeland Security is still here.

00:56:24.000 We're still, so we're in this constant kind of emergency Governing mode.

00:56:29.000 And in order to do this, there always has to be a constant threat that's built up.

00:56:36.000 And that's why Scott's response immediately is, like, terrifying.

00:56:40.000 Because in the same way that they had to say that, like, listen, Saddam Hussein is best friends with Al Qaeda, and he's about to give them the weapons of mass destruction that he doesn't have. 0.66

00:56:50.000 You know?

00:56:51.000 Like, he wasn't friends with them, and he didn't have the weapons, this was all lies, but they would make that threat.

00:56:55.000 And then they would always create whatever the threat is, that Qaddafi's about to go genocidal, or Assad's killing his own people, or Putin's gonna reconstitute the Soviet Union, or... And in this case, the threat that they're trying to use is January 6th represents this attempt of the right half of America to overthrow democracy.

00:57:15.000 And the commonality in all of these threats is that they're all pure lies.

00:57:21.000 None of them exist.

00:57:22.000 None of them are actually threats to the United States of America.

00:57:25.000 But they need this in order to kind of justify how even your, look, you see, because if you watch Bill Maher sometimes, he'll rail against woke-ism, he'll rail against the insanity of the COVID restrictions and what California's come to and all of this, and he'll get big applause in his audience, but then it always returns back to, but This other side is such a bigger threat.

00:57:49.000 They have to keep that going or there's no way they can justify their authoritarianism.

00:57:53.000 I want to pull up this story from the Postmonial.

00:57:55.000 Kyrsten Sinema will not seek re-election in Arizona.

00:57:58.000 And I really don't care if she does or doesn't.

00:58:00.000 She won her seat as a Democrat, switched to Independent.

00:58:03.000 What's the real story here?

00:58:06.000 Is that you said, I believe in my approach, but it's not what America wants right now.

00:58:09.000 I love Arizona, I'm so proud of what we've delivered, because I choose civility, understanding, listening, working together to get stuff done.

00:58:16.000 I will leave the Senate at the end of this year.

00:58:17.000 Is that like a dig at Cary Lake or something?

00:58:19.000 No, the issue here is that you have the enlightened centrist types, and they are fewer and far between as of late, but they still exist, where they argue that you're either on the left or the right.

00:58:31.000 There's no middle ground anymore.

00:58:32.000 I would argue that this show actually is fairly moderate, But there is reality.

00:58:36.000 And the reality is Joe Biden was involved in the Burisma scandal.

00:58:40.000 Joe Biden flew to Ukraine and said, if you don't fire the prosecutor, you're not getting the billion dollars.

00:58:44.000 It was testified, I believe it was Devin Archer, that Hunter Biden called D.C.

00:58:50.000 and said, we need help with this.

00:58:50.000 The prosecutor is investigating us.

00:58:52.000 And then Biden flies out at the end of the year and then basically says, fire this prosecutor.

00:58:57.000 Matt Taibbi has done great reporting on that as well.

00:58:59.000 And Biden admitted that.

00:59:00.000 And the point is this.

00:59:04.000 The left will argue it's not true, when it is, and the enlightened centrist cinema types will say, can't we all just get along?

00:59:12.000 Now the left has this meme where there's the Klan, and there's black people, and there's a guy in the middle with this smirking face holding up a sign saying compromise. 0.81

00:59:21.000 That's how the left wants to frame this, as if they are right, and you're trying to compromise with crazies.

00:59:27.000 Now, I agree with the general idea of the enlightened centrist types like Sinema, who are arguing, you need to be more moderate, you're too conservative, you're supporting the right, you're supporting Trump, and blah blah blah, and it's like, some things are just true.

00:59:39.000 Some things are reality.

00:59:41.000 Joe Biden did these things.

00:59:42.000 We now know from Hunter Biden that he was the big guy in these emails getting these kickbacks, influence peddling, granted that was after he left the vice presidency.

00:59:50.000 But if you look at things that are true, and then you look at, say, Adam Schiff and Jamie Raskin, they are lying about everything.

00:59:55.000 Nancy Pelosi, she is lying about everything.

00:59:57.000 There is a reality, and there is a propaganda manipulation.

01:00:00.000 And if you are on the side of reality, they will call you right-wing no matter what, because it is not your policy positions that make you left or right, it's what you know to be true that makes you right-wing or conservative.

01:00:10.000 Well, essentially, the definition from their perspective is anyone who is not lockstep with the woke agenda is right-wing.

01:00:20.000 And to your point, there's this, look, there's almost, it's like we're living in like a funhouse mirror version of reality, if you watch like CNN or something like that.

01:00:28.000 So there's, there's almost two types of centrism.

01:00:32.000 So one type of centrism is like, hey, I don't think we should be way too far to the left or way too far to the right.

01:00:39.000 We should just meet in the middle with Hillary Clinton and John McCain.

01:00:44.000 You know, but then you're kind of like, wait a minute, but you're the most radical people on the plate.

01:00:49.000 You're the guys who want to, uh, you know, bankrupt the country fighting every war around

01:00:53.000 the world. And then there's also a different type of kind of like

01:00:57.000 centrist some are like moderate position. That's just like, Hey, I'm not like some crazy right

01:01:05.000 winger. Who's saying that like all women need to be in the kitchen and never speak in public. 1.00

01:01:10.000 And I'm not some crazy left-winger who's saying, like, little kids should have genital mutilation surgery. 0.91

01:01:16.000 I'm just saying, like, hey, let's talk about this.

01:01:19.000 What's the middle ground between the two?

01:01:20.000 The middle ground between the two is just kind of like off.

01:01:23.000 But this sort of goes back to what you were talking about with regard to ruling through crisis, right?

01:01:28.000 And leading by crisis.

01:01:29.000 How can you have a moderate position when you have a crisis?

01:01:32.000 Like what's the moderate position on do we put the house fire out or not?

01:01:39.000 No, and we've had several major crises that have been like sort of fabricated and pushed on us.

01:01:44.000 And there are some real ones.

01:01:46.000 So what you have is like you have the immigration crisis, but you also had the Biden, you know, Biden and Harris going on about how racism was a crisis and the environment's crisis and all of this.

01:01:55.000 So once you once you are instilling in people that it is life and death, what is the middle ground between life and death?

01:02:01.000 The issue that we're facing in this country is that Donald Trump represents centrists, and Democrats and Biden represent the fringe far left.

01:02:09.000 And I can exemplify this very, very simply.

01:02:12.000 The right-wing position on misgendering would be, if you were born female, and you tell people to call you a male, to do so would be to misgender you because your gender is female.

01:02:23.000 The left-wing position is, if you were born female and wish to be called male, you have to call this person the pronoun they want.

01:02:31.000 So that's the left and the right position.

01:02:33.000 The right, under Donald Trump, is asking social media platforms to take the middle approach and just not ban anyone.

01:02:39.000 That is the centrist position.

01:02:41.000 How about we go full right-wing on this one and say, Elon, right now I'd like you to institute a policy that says, if a person has a preferred pronoun and you use it, you will be banned.

01:02:51.000 That's the right-wing position, right?

01:02:52.000 Don't use people's preferred pronouns.

01:02:54.000 How about we take the centrist approach that we've all been arguing for and just don't ban anyone.

01:02:58.000 People can block whoever they're pissed off by.

01:03:00.000 This is the issue right now.

01:03:01.000 When you brought up the right wants women to never speak again and be in the kitchen, and I'm thinking to myself, you know, if I had to make a choice between... I had no choice.

01:03:10.000 It was one or the other.

01:03:11.000 It was child sex change operations happening en masse, or women in the kitchen. 0.98

01:03:15.000 I'm going to agree with you on this choice, yes.

01:03:17.000 I think even women would agree, like, I'd rather be in the kitchen than have that happen. 1.00

01:03:20.000 Yes.

01:03:21.000 But that's not even a reality.

01:03:22.000 Because the right is not actually arguing for women to be in the kitchen. 0.99

01:03:25.000 Some people are, but here's the question I have.

01:03:28.000 What is the most extreme mainstream Trump supporter position?

01:03:33.000 I mean, I'm talking about in the mainstream, in the press, among Trump supporters, what is their most extreme right-wing position?

01:03:40.000 Maybe just shutting down the border entirely.

01:03:42.000 Shutting down the border?

01:03:42.000 No, no, no, not shutting down the border.

01:03:44.000 If you want to be fair about this, what is the most extreme right-wing position that Trump supporters have had?

01:03:50.000 Mainstream.

01:03:50.000 Well, look, I'll say... Popular among Trump supporters.

01:03:53.000 Mainstream meaning prominent Trump supporters, prominent people have advocated this.

01:03:57.000 I'd say it's deportation of every illegal immigrant and cutting off all trade with China, which I both do think are like, look... On a scale of 1 to 10, Where would you put that in terms of extremism?

01:04:12.000 I mean, look, cutting off... If you were actually... And by the way, I'm completely for complete border control and all of that, but if you're talking about actually... At this point, we've got... We don't actually know what the numbers are.

01:04:27.000 I mean, it's probably... Upward of 10 million?

01:04:30.000 No, oh, it's north of 20 million for sure.

01:04:32.000 Yeah, for sure.

01:04:33.000 If you're talking about... Well, since 2021, I think it's 20.

01:04:37.000 Well, it was twelve was the number they always used forever, and then the government admits that over seven have come in since I've been there.

01:04:44.000 We're getting off on a tangent.

01:04:45.000 No, I'm trying to get to the point.

01:04:47.000 If you're talking about a police action that is going to attempt to be deporting north of twenty million people in this country... They're not making that argument, you are.

01:04:59.000 No, no, no.

01:04:59.000 The estimates are 10 to 15.

01:05:01.000 Okay, fine, fine.

01:05:02.000 Let's say it's 10.

01:05:03.000 Let's say it's 10.

01:05:04.000 Sure.

01:05:04.000 If you're saying that your argument is to deport them all, I'm saying that you are going to have to form a Gestapo-like police force in order to do that.

01:05:15.000 We don't know who these people are.

01:05:17.000 We don't know where to track them.

01:05:18.000 You're going to have to be kicking down doors.

01:05:20.000 You're going to have to be checking papers.

01:05:21.000 I get it, I get it, I get it.

01:05:23.000 And cutting off any other argument.

01:05:24.000 My question is, How extreme on a scale of one to ten do you believe it is?

01:05:27.000 Okay, so the point that I'm just making is if you actually... These are kind of bumper stickers.

01:05:31.000 I don't think most of them have actually thought this through, but if you actually think through the ramifications of what it would take to enact these policies, they are pretty extreme.

01:05:41.000 I'd put that one pretty high.

01:05:43.000 Like, that's... Okay, now let's... So my point is this.

01:05:46.000 If we were to actually assess the most extreme position held under Trump supporters, which is deport all of the people who have broken the law, which is to simplify it in, we need to enforce the law as it was written and actually hold accountable the criminals in this country, right?

01:06:03.000 I don't disagree with you on that.

01:06:04.000 And I will give you, you would need to create a massive police force to do so.

01:06:09.000 Agreed.

01:06:10.000 Compare that to what is happening now.

01:06:12.000 Okay, so let's say that's the proposal from Trump supporters, and we believe the most extreme position, and I think it's a fair assessment, is a massive deportation system, a massive expansion of government power to track down and deport 10 to 15 million people.

01:06:27.000 Right now, Not even an idea, not even a proposal.

01:06:31.000 The left has an open border, bringing in tens of millions, bringing in ten plus million people and child sex change operations.

01:06:37.000 So this is, but I was about to say this.

01:06:40.000 I think you're right.

01:06:41.000 I think the asymmetry here is that that's just kind of like a bumper sticker that Trump supporters throw out.

01:06:47.000 Right.

01:06:47.000 But if they were to just be offered, hey, we'll build the wall and the influx will stop.

01:06:51.000 They very clearly settle for that.

01:06:53.000 Exactly.

01:06:53.000 If we're talking about what's actually happening in reality versus what just their imagined, desired positions are, yes.

01:07:01.000 There's really no comparison.

01:07:02.000 And so the issue we're facing is moderate Americans may be slightly right leaning.

01:07:08.000 I don't even know if it's fair to say.

01:07:09.000 I don't know.

01:07:10.000 Colin Wright's meme about the left moving further and further left and forcing the middle to be called the center right is a great point.

01:07:16.000 Yes.

01:07:16.000 When, I'm going to stress this again.

01:07:19.000 When the Trump base, the far right, simply says, hey, can we not have a rule banning people for speech?

01:07:26.000 That is not even the right wing position on misgendering.

01:07:29.000 It's not.

01:07:29.000 It's a centrist compromise.

01:07:31.000 And the far left says, no, ban anyone who doesn't agree with my ideology.

01:07:35.000 Well, look, I mean, when the right, I'm old enough to remember when the right wing had real power.

01:07:42.000 Over not just the not just the political collapse, but also just over the culture and it was immediately in the wake of 9-11 Oh, and they and they weren't just trying to say hey everyone say what you want to say.

01:07:54.000 That's very different from Trump though No, no, I'm not saying it's the same as Trump Well, look, I'm just saying, at that point, the Dixie Chicks were getting- they were the victims of cancel culture, and Bill Maher- They got cancelled again by the left.

01:08:10.000 Well, yes, I know, because now it's for chicks, not Dixie, but whatever.

01:08:14.000 No, no, no, it was Dixie.

01:08:15.000 Oh, I thought it was a reference to antebellum, you know, whatever. 0.95

01:08:19.000 It's too stupid for me to keep up with, but look, Bill Maher got fired from ABC and it wasn't from being canceled from the left. 0.91

01:08:26.000 It was from being canceled from the right. 0.99

01:08:27.000 I'm just saying that there is something that it's very easy when the other side, I don't even disagree with what you're saying.

01:08:35.000 I'm just making the point that it's very easy when one side has all of the power For the other side who has less power to go, hey, we shouldn't impose power on the other one.

01:08:46.000 Right.

01:08:46.000 You know, but like, so that's part of the reason why right wingers are just saying like, hey, let's just not ban anyone because they know all of the institutions are controlled by their enemies.

01:08:55.000 So we got some updates, Texas.

01:08:56.000 Trump has won.

01:08:57.000 I don't even know why I'm reading it.

01:09:00.000 Alabama.

01:09:01.000 Maine.

01:09:02.000 Arkansas.

01:09:03.000 Maine's interesting because they try to remove him from the ballot.

01:09:03.000 Maine.

01:09:05.000 Yeah.

01:09:06.000 Well, that was obvious because they wanted to disenfranchise their own voters and prevent them from voting for Donald Trump.

01:09:11.000 To protect democracy.

01:09:12.000 That's right.

01:09:12.000 To protect democracy.

01:09:13.000 It's George W. Bush!

01:09:14.000 Trump is up 28 in Colorado with 32% in, so that's going to come next.

01:09:14.000 Colorado.

01:09:20.000 Nikki Haley.

01:09:21.000 Massachusetts. 0.99

01:09:22.000 I mean, it's really, yeah, Haley is still, Haley's projected 2% in Vermont, but, you know, Vermont is stupid anyway.

01:09:28.000 In this map made by NBC News, where they have Trump and Haley with different colors, I'm willing to bet that they actually did not even have a color code for Haley, and then when she won DC, the graphics guy's like, All right, I'll make it.

01:09:43.000 That's why it's so similar.

01:09:45.000 So it doesn't look like she's getting massacred the way she is.

01:09:48.000 I mean, this is this is rough.

01:09:49.000 This girl is not pulling off whatever victory.

01:09:52.000 What is she doing?

01:09:54.000 I don't.

01:09:54.000 Other than just wasting donor money that could go down.

01:09:57.000 She's wasting Democrat money primarily. 1.00

01:09:59.000 I mean, it's mostly Democrat money.

01:10:00.000 Listen, she's gonna walk out of this and go get some job on the board of a finance company or a weapons company. 1.00

01:10:00.000 That's okay, I guess. 1.00

01:10:09.000 Maybe they're gonna make her a university president. 1.00

01:10:12.000 Yeah, she's gonna walk into millions and millions of dollars for doing this. 1.00

01:10:18.000 That's the game.

01:10:19.000 Unfortunately, that's the actual game.

01:10:21.000 Look, Vivek called her out all the time for it, right?

01:10:23.000 She left the UN being, like, not having that much money.

01:10:28.000 She went, she got put on the board of Boeing, and I think was getting paid something from another weapons company.

01:10:32.000 She got paid, now she's doing their bidding, and she will be handsomely rewarded for it.

01:10:37.000 As sad as that is.

01:10:38.000 She represents the MSNBC right.

01:10:42.000 The people who used to be conservative, but only watch MSNBC.

01:10:46.000 No, but just and just even like the Republicans who come on MSNBC all day every day to go, hey, I'm a Republican and even I'm fed up with Donald Trump.

01:10:56.000 And that's just their whole that's their whole role is to be like, look, even the conservative admits that the liberals are right.

01:11:03.000 That's kind of the game here.

01:11:06.000 And that's really what.

01:11:08.000 At least we should understand what needs to be attacked.

01:11:12.000 This isn't really a left-right divide or a question of who's in the center or who's in the extremes.

01:11:18.000 The question is that how do we deal with this incredibly corrupt system that is anti all of us?

01:11:28.000 Whether you identify as left or right, you're still getting ripped off by this system.

01:11:33.000 It doesn't even matter.

01:11:34.000 You could be some champion in what you think is the left-wing's culture war.

01:11:40.000 You're like, I'm out here protesting for trans rights. 0.99

01:11:43.000 You're just a dupe. 0.99

01:11:44.000 You're being ripped off by inflation just like everyone else is. 1.00

01:11:47.000 You're just a useful idiot. 1.00

01:11:48.000 Do you remember when there were anti-mask protesters and Antifa came and attacked them? 1.00

01:11:55.000 Yeah.

01:11:56.000 There was also a protest in D.C.

01:11:59.000 where it was stop corporate censorship, and Antifa came and attacked them.

01:12:02.000 And I'm like, what about defending massive corporations makes you like anti-establishment? 0.98

01:12:07.000 I was at a skate park like two years ago, and it's a skate park, and there's a big Black Lives Matter spray painted on the ramps, and some kids were sitting by it, and I started busting out laughing, and I was like, which one of you idiots spray painted Amazon's corporate logo on the ramp? 0.99

01:12:20.000 Oh, punk rock, Walmart, woohoo! 0.96

01:12:22.000 There is something really funny about, like, the fact that it doesn't even give any of them pause, that all these giant corporations are on their side.

01:12:32.000 Like, from your own ideological view, wouldn't that be like, wait, they're supposed to be against us, no?

01:12:38.000 They're not suppos- And the other funny thing was in 2020, when the BLM riot, like, got out of control and they went and smashed up the CNN building, and then it was like the first time CNN went, hey, wait!

01:12:50.000 Like, but we're on your side!

01:12:52.000 And you're like, yeah, they're just smashing stuff, dude.

01:12:56.000 They're not really thinking about it.

01:12:57.000 Do you think Tom Morello, like, rationalizes, or do you think he just lies to it?

01:13:02.000 Like, he just lies.

01:13:04.000 Or I should say, do you think he rationalized it to himself, or do you think he knows what's really going on and is lying to everybody else?

01:13:12.000 I mean, my guess is he knows what's going on and is just lying.

01:13:15.000 But I don't know.

01:13:16.000 I'm not inside anyone else's head.

01:13:18.000 You know it's funny because on the way here we're listening to 90s Alternative and System of a Down comes on and they have Prison, what's it called, Prison Song.

01:13:26.000 And I'm just like, I like System of a Down.

01:13:28.000 I don't know them personally.

01:13:29.000 They're not as bad as, I don't know them to be bad actually.

01:13:31.000 I know Rage Against the Machine is Rage on behalf of the machine because they've been very active in supporting the machine.

01:13:36.000 But isn't it kind of funny that we have these bands that are extremely wealthy Massively supported, internationally famous, and they claim to oppose the machine?

01:13:47.000 It's almost like the machine actually supported them the whole time.

01:13:52.000 Well, or at least they got sucked up into that thing that was the machine, you know?

01:13:58.000 And, like, you know, it was so, like, comical.

01:14:01.000 Well, the machine does manufacture things.

01:14:03.000 Well, but, like, they had these, like, these bands who have these songs, you know, and they're like, SHUT UP!

01:14:09.000 I WON'T DO WHAT YOU TELL ME TO DO! 0.82

01:14:11.000 HEY GUYS, MAKE SURE TO GET YOUR COVID VACCINE!

01:14:13.000 No, no, no, no, did you see, uh, which band was it?

01:14:16.000 Where they were like, CLEAN HANDS!

01:14:18.000 We all have clean hands!

01:14:20.000 And everyone's cheering for it.

01:14:21.000 There was this venue in Brooklyn.

01:14:22.000 Who was that?

01:14:23.000 It's a band I don't like.

01:14:25.000 It's a German word in it.

01:14:28.000 Kaiser, yeah.

01:14:29.000 Do you guys remember that clip?

01:14:29.000 Kaiser Cheese.

01:14:31.000 Aren't they like an Irish band or something?

01:14:33.000 It was so disturbing.

01:14:33.000 I don't know.

01:14:35.000 The line is, F you, I won't do what you tell me.

01:14:38.000 And I'm like, they really need to change that to, F you, you better do what we tell you.

01:14:41.000 Please give me direction, because I don't know what to do without it.

01:14:44.000 There was this venue in Brooklyn that I was trying to go see something at at one point, and they had this whole, basically, manifesto that you had to sign off on about social justice, and if you don't feel this way, then don't come to the venue.

01:14:57.000 And I was like, okay, then I totally won't come to the venue.

01:14:59.000 That's also fine.

01:15:01.000 And I hate this band now for playing here.

01:15:03.000 I don't even remember what band it was.

01:15:04.000 They're off the playlist.

01:15:05.000 But isn't there, you know, there's something so interesting to me about how, like, all of this stuff, like, even if you trace it back to its actual, like, origin, and people can argue about whether this is, like, from the Frankfurt School or critical theory or, like, where exactly the intellectual kind of roots of all of this wokeism comes from, but there is something so interesting about how it did, at least to some degree, start as this really radical left-wing thought.

01:15:35.000 And then yet was embraced by every rich capitalist and every powerful government, you know, official in the country and is now kind of being pushed on people and that they took this thing and they realized how powerful it was to like divide everybody and insist that you sign up with their views and turn this, it's just, there's something like so interesting about that.

01:16:02.000 That was the compromise.

01:16:04.000 It's not just... Their compromise was like, we get to do capitalism, and sure, we'll hire extra people.

01:16:11.000 I don't even think it was... I don't even... Yeah, I guess to some degree that's true, right? 0.97

01:16:15.000 Like the compromise was like, almost like in the wake of Occupy Wall Street, the compromise was that JP Morgan goes, okay, look, Here's the deal.

01:16:26.000 We get to do everything we've been doing, and we will send our white executives to diversity training. 0.99

01:16:33.000 And we'll pay for your abortions, and we'll cut your kids' dicks off. 1.00

01:16:36.000 That's fine. 1.00

01:16:36.000 Yeah, I guess that's the thing, right? 1.00

01:16:38.000 And we'll add extra diverse people to our board, per the law in California.

01:16:43.000 And in this kind of weird, sick compromise, which by the way, if you're really interested in this, go read The Progressive Era by Murray Rothbard because this is actually the story of the original Progressive Era as well.

01:16:58.000 This is the whole story, is that there were these kind of good At least possibly well-intentioned leftists who were like progressives and they were like, hey, we should have a managed economy so it does more for the little guy and less for the big guy.

01:17:14.000 And then basically all of the robber barons were like, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, we totally should have a managed economy.

01:17:19.000 We'll be the ones to manage it.

01:17:20.000 And then they just basically took it over and made it, it was like a right-wing coup against the left-wing idea in some sense, broadly speaking.

01:17:29.000 And But today, think about how much that is literally what led to the transformation.

01:17:35.000 Let me just say that that's what led to the transformation of the left wing being the pro-war group.

01:17:42.000 That they're now all going, well, we have to put Ukrainian flags up or we have to, you know what I mean? 0.98

01:17:48.000 And like, because it's like, because they got trained to just follow orders and be obedient.

01:17:54.000 But that's what our schooling was doing.

01:17:55.000 Our schooling for decades has been teaching people to be managed.

01:17:59.000 It teaches people how to like follow instructions, how to sit quietly.

01:18:03.000 Like I'll never forget when my son got in trouble in like kindergarten at circle time and the teacher called me in and it was like super serious and the teacher was like, uh, your son won't sit still during circle time.

01:18:15.000 And I was like, okay, what's he doing?

01:18:16.000 Well, he's running in circles.

01:18:18.000 And I was like, so.

01:18:19.000 Like, he's doing... Like, it is circle time.

01:18:21.000 What's the problem?

01:18:22.000 You know what I mean?

01:18:23.000 Like, he is taking circles, and it's part of his activity, and he's running around.

01:18:26.000 Like, he's a little boy.

01:18:27.000 That's what little boys do.

01:18:29.000 I gotta... I gotta make sure I get a correction here.

01:18:29.000 They run around.

01:18:30.000 Sorry, real quick.

01:18:31.000 Uh, because someone super chatted this.

01:18:33.000 John, uh... How do you pronounce his name?

01:18:36.000 Okay.

01:18:36.000 Dolemayan. John Dolemayan, the drummer for System of a Down, is a vocal Trump supporter.

01:18:40.000 So shout out to him for standing up for his beliefs. It's not even about being a Trump

01:18:44.000 supporter while I shout him out, but he's said people have attacked him over it.

01:18:48.000 He's getting a lot of heat for it. So I have respect.

01:18:51.000 But I do think that, I do think that like, on the sort of On the sort of conservative side, or the more thoughtful side, or even if you want to call it centrist or whatever, we spend so much time trying to dig into where these ideas came from, and tracking the history of it.

01:19:06.000 You know, Chris Rufo does that, he's excellent at it.

01:19:08.000 James Lindsay does that, like really stellar at digging into that stuff.

01:19:11.000 Jordan Peterson.

01:19:12.000 Social media.

01:19:12.000 You know, figuring all out exactly where it came from.

01:19:15.000 We can isolate it and we can pinpoint it, but why can't we just rip it out by the roots?

01:19:19.000 And why can't we make a stand and say what it is we do believe in and what we do want going forward?

01:19:24.000 Well, I would just say, I think the much more interesting question,

01:19:29.000 and I'm not saying it's not an interesting question, like where the ideological roots of this come from.

01:19:35.000 I just think, and this is my big push, I think a much more interesting question is not, where did it come from?

01:19:41.000 My question is, why did every major corporation, every political class, Hollywood, like, why did every powerful... Because we didn't Bud Light them.

01:19:52.000 We didn't Bud Light them.

01:19:53.000 But that's not the point.

01:19:55.000 That's a totally different question.

01:19:56.000 That's a question of why didn't we stop it?

01:19:58.000 I'm saying why did every powerful person in the United States of America embrace it at the same time and start jamming it down our throats?

01:20:08.000 There's an answer.

01:20:09.000 Social media.

01:20:10.000 I don't think that's the answer.

01:20:12.000 You look at LexisNexis data, in every country on the planet with the rise of social media, these terms began to take hold.

01:20:18.000 Now there's a root to why these ideas in particular, but these weren't the only ideas getting spread.

01:20:24.000 I've done this rant a million times so I'll keep it quick, but when Facebook first switched to an algorithmic model, the number one form of content was police brutality videos.

01:20:32.000 Several websites emerged that just started publishing nothing but... Cop block and free thought project.

01:20:38.000 And these were some of the most trafficked websites in the world.

01:20:42.000 Because Facebook said, whatever people share, we show more of.

01:20:45.000 And it was rudimentary.

01:20:47.000 YouTube, you know what the number one content was on YouTube in the early days?

01:20:51.000 As long as the thumbnail was a woman in a bikini, I'm not joking, it would get more views because YouTube said, if it gets clicks, show it to more people, it'll get more clicks. 0.87

01:20:59.000 People said, okay, whatever my video is, make the thumbnail a bikini woman, and it'll get clicked on, and then YouTube promotes me. 0.93

01:21:05.000 They started to refine their algorithms.

01:21:07.000 Some ideas got deleted.

01:21:09.000 There was, around this time, a rise in white nationalist content alongside intersectional content, and advertisers went, AHH!

01:21:16.000 We can't be next to white nationalists!

01:21:18.000 We're taking our ads! 0.56

01:21:19.000 They said, okay, they said, we'll get rid of that content.

01:21:22.000 No advertiser cared about justice, and responsibility, and caring about our neighbors.

01:21:29.000 So around 2008 was when we saw the emergence of Facebook, Twitter, and all these other platforms, and the rise of the algorithms.

01:21:35.000 LexisNexis data shows us the emergence of words like white privilege, racism, et cetera, colonizer, appeared in every newspaper in every Western country around the exact same time in a massive hockey stick.

01:21:50.000 Okay, so let me just give you a counter to the fact that it's just social media and algorithms, okay?

01:21:55.000 So it's really around 2012 when those nexus charts shoot up.

01:22:00.000 And it's not just what was going on on YouTube or other social media.

01:22:04.000 We're talking about the New York Times, the Washington Post, the Los Angeles Times, major, major newspapers.

01:22:10.000 And you know why?

01:22:12.000 For the New York Times to get shares on Facebook, they needed these search terms.

01:22:16.000 Vice famously had an article that said something like, Trans women of color victims of police brutality exemplifies the Black Lives Matter movement.

01:22:24.000 And it crammed as many of these words as possible into a single headline and everyone laughed.

01:22:28.000 Listen, this is why I don't agree with this, okay?

01:22:31.000 So, I do not believe that the goal here was clicks and views and likes.

01:22:37.000 And think about it like this.

01:22:39.000 Who was the number one show in cable news before he got fired?

01:22:44.000 Tucker Carlson.

01:22:46.000 And there are all of these stories that he would touch that nobody else would touch that we get.

01:22:51.000 Listen, just imagine this, right?

01:22:53.000 You're a cable news show.

01:22:55.000 Let's say you were going to do a show all about what really happened with Jeffrey Epstein and who's really covering it up.

01:23:03.000 Let's say you were going to do a show about who's been vaccine injured from the COVID vaccine.

01:23:09.000 You would get enormous views.

01:23:10.000 Amy Robeck on ABC News wanted to do the story, it was shut down.

01:23:13.000 Yes, I know, right.

01:23:14.000 But I'm saying, so there are stories that would get an enormous amount of clicks, an enormous amount of views, but they're shut down because they go against the powerful.

01:23:23.000 So my point is just that the reason why the New York Times and the Washington Post and these major publications started pushing this stuff, I do not believe was because it was getting more views.

01:23:35.000 I think this was an intentional distraction campaign that was following Occupy Wall Street, the Tea Party movement, and the fact that Barack Obama was up for re-election and had continued the George W. Bush policies for his entire administration.

01:23:49.000 And they had to make something that would go like, look, people are very upset with this failure.

01:23:55.000 This is what we have to throw at them.

01:23:57.000 It's too reductive.

01:23:58.000 I don't think so.

01:23:59.000 So when I worked for Fusion, when they said, we are going to be nice, so when they pitched me, this is ABC News Univision, they said, we want to be nice vice.

01:24:09.000 Will you come and work with us?

01:24:10.000 I said, what will you give me?

01:24:11.000 They said, we're going to give you a ridiculous amount of money and a massive budget.

01:24:15.000 And they said, everything you already do, do it here.

01:24:15.000 What's your goal?

01:24:19.000 We don't like that Vice does the weird sex drug stuff, but we like the rock and roll, so you bring that edgy, on-the-street journalism to us, and we're good.

01:24:27.000 Six to eight months later, they were full woke, they brought in a new editor-in-chief, and he changed his Twitter profile photograph to a picture of a black fist that said, down with whiteness.

01:24:37.000 If someone tells you they like rock and roll.

01:24:39.000 And the reason why they did it, explicitly, in the meetings I was at with the executives of this company was, young people are progressive, and if we don't adhere to what they want, we will get erased.

01:24:51.000 In order to succeed as a media company, you target the young people, and you age with them.

01:24:56.000 By the time they're 35, we're the dominant media.

01:24:58.000 And I said, you're wrong.

01:25:00.000 You're being tricked into thinking these things are what young people want, and I can prove otherwise.

01:25:05.000 And so we did a marketing campaign.

01:25:07.000 We helped them get some non-woke content, massive amounts of views.

01:25:10.000 The president told me explicitly, you're the only person in this company who actually gets the views.

01:25:14.000 The issue is, you're too old.

01:25:17.000 How old was I at this time?

01:25:18.000 This is 10 years ago.

01:25:21.000 You must have been in your 20s, right?

01:25:22.000 So I'm 28, 29.

01:25:23.000 And they said, we're looking at 18-year-olds.

01:25:26.000 And so, I'll give you another example.

01:25:29.000 Mike.com, MIC.

01:25:30.000 Do you know what they started as?

01:25:32.000 Ron Paul.

01:25:33.000 Really?

01:25:33.000 It was two libertarian brothers started a Ron Paul libertarian site and they posted police brutality.

01:25:37.000 Why did they shift their business model?

01:25:39.000 Well, I happen to know this because I actually went to their office headquarters and met with their one of their heads of development who said, this gets traffic.

01:25:47.000 We need the views.

01:25:49.000 So when we switch, when we're doing police brutality, and we're all libertarian, and she wasn't talking about, like, the company at the time, but this is their founding, she's like, when we do anti-racist social justice and feminism, it gets shared on Facebook.

01:26:05.000 When you do conservatism, Facebook was deleting it.

01:26:10.000 We learned this from Gizmodo's reporting in 2016, that employees at Facebook were actively removing this stuff.

01:26:16.000 So you have what I refer to as Jack Dorsey plugging his sewer system into his own mouth.

01:26:23.000 They created these algorithms that promoted social justice.

01:26:26.000 The first content to go viral was police brutality because no one likes police brutality.

01:26:30.000 Then you combine... What we ended up seeing was, if you have a video that says racism bad, you get X views.

01:26:36.000 If you have sexism bad, you get Y views.

01:26:39.000 But if you have racism and sexism bad, you get XY. 0.55

01:26:41.000 It's exponential.

01:26:43.000 So a company like Mike.com shifted their narrative in line with what was getting them traffic.

01:26:49.000 And the best example of how this works is you look at Dylan Mulvaney.

01:26:52.000 Dylan Mulvaney's early TikTok content?

01:26:55.000 Safaris with animals.

01:26:57.000 Why now?

01:26:58.000 What happened to Dylan Mulvaney that it turned into day 900 of being a woman? 0.99

01:27:02.000 Because that's what people were responding to.

01:27:03.000 Chasing after the views, so evolved the content and created this as algorithms pushed it.

01:27:08.000 You then end up with people like Jack Dorsey who said this is the free speech wing of the free speech party, but after he builds this community on social media promoting only one ideology and downranking anything else like conservatism because it was offensive to him and his friends, it was offensive to him and his friends because they were gargling on the sewage of their own network.

01:27:26.000 Okay, so first of all, you brought up Ron Paul, and so it's incumbent on me to say that he is the greatest living American hero, and everybody should go Google him and look him up, and if you're not familiar with him, go read everything he's ever written and listen to everything he's ever said.

01:27:41.000 So that part I will concede.

01:27:43.000 I'm just saying, my argument is not that nobody online has ever put out content that will just get more clicks, or that even like going woke, crazy woke, or crazy anti-woke won't increase views.

01:27:56.000 So what you're talking about was absolutely a part of this transformation.

01:28:01.000 I'm just saying that it's also true that the New York Times, and the Washington Post, and by the way, the CIA, and the Federal Reserve, and the Obama administration, which in this year, in 2012 it was, passed their first big DEI initiative or whatever, it wasn't just coming from the bottom up.

01:28:24.000 It was also coming from the top down and that there was this weird convergence there.

01:28:29.000 And my question is just like, why the top down part?

01:28:33.000 And I'm saying that there was also, while there wasn't, there's no, listen, you still see it today.

01:28:38.000 Every day since Twitter, like people are monetizing their Twitter under Elon Musk, you see them just kind of post the most provocative thing that's going to get them more clicks.

01:28:48.000 But I'm saying there's something else at work here also, which is that the top the top down. I believe there was a targeted campaign that

01:28:57.000 Obama had come in and promised a repudiation of the Bush policies. He had failed on them.

01:29:03.000 He had continued all of them and he pivoted toward a culture war.

01:29:07.000 I believe that is hyper focused on one particular element.

01:29:11.000 The fact that Obama wanted this narrative would imply that powerful Democrats went to their allies

01:29:17.000 and said, focus on this.

01:29:18.000 Which does not have the effect of shifting everything overnight.

01:29:21.000 The overnight shift came from algorithms.

01:29:23.000 And the reason why the executives at, this is an ABC-Univision joint venture with $300 million behind it.

01:29:30.000 I worked in the ABC News building alongside all of them, and the president of the company said, we're going after young people. 0.99

01:29:38.000 Their marketing people came to them.

01:29:40.000 These meetings are fascinating.

01:29:41.000 One time the marketing guy said, women share more. 1.00

01:29:45.000 Women share more than men, and anger generates more shares than anything else. 0.94

01:29:50.000 So what do we need? 0.99

01:29:51.000 We need to piss off women. 1.00

01:29:52.000 We need angry women! 1.00

01:29:53.000 That's what America needs!

01:29:55.000 100%.

01:29:56.000 Women are more likely to share content on Facebook, and anger is what drives them. 1.00

01:30:00.000 What makes women angry? 1.00

01:30:02.000 Social justice.

01:30:03.000 So they hyper-focused and prioritized it.

01:30:07.000 This is a $300 million media company with the president and their head of marketing telling me, like, look man, look at the data.

01:30:14.000 We do a video on trans issues, we get a lot of views.

01:30:16.000 And I'm like, you do a video on any other hot topic issue, you'll get the same amount of views.

01:30:21.000 I got more views talking about Fukushima when the Fallout video came out.

01:30:26.000 When the Fallout video game came out.

01:30:28.000 Then you got on all your social justice stuff.

01:30:30.000 Your marketing people are telling you young people are wanting this, but you're eating your own refuse.

01:30:35.000 That's right.

01:30:35.000 Look, I went to Vice, before I left Vice, I told all of these companies the exact same thing, and it's obvious now why Vice completely collapsed in on itself.

01:30:45.000 It's obvious why Fusion collapsed in on itself.

01:30:48.000 They were convinced that the screeching activists who didn't actually care about this stuff were the future.

01:30:54.000 They were convinced that these buzzwords that were appearing on social media represented what young people wanted.

01:30:58.000 And I kept telling them they were wrong.

01:31:00.000 And so what happens now?

01:31:01.000 Both those companies basically don't exist.

01:31:03.000 Vice is a skeleton limping around, struggling to breathe.

01:31:07.000 Well, it can't. 0.52

01:31:08.000 It's a skeleton.

01:31:08.000 And Fusion went bankrupt.

01:31:10.000 I think they went bankrupt.

01:31:11.000 I don't know.

01:31:11.000 They ended up laying everybody off and shutting down.

01:31:13.000 And then what was left was some skin of a website.

01:31:16.000 And then they got rid of that, too.

01:31:17.000 Well, also, that whole thing did something really bad for women. 1.00

01:31:20.000 I mean, that didn't help women at all, marketing to them that way, because it was the redirection of, you know, a maternal instinct toward a compassion in social justice that has been completely destructive for American women across the board, so.

01:31:33.000 In, in like 20, what was it, 2018.

01:31:36.000 There was a report that came out accusing a bunch of people who are like moderate and conservative and libertarian of being far-right.

01:31:43.000 YouTube panicked because they had lost ad revenue, and then immediately nuked the recommendations for all of these channels.

01:31:50.000 But it wasn't ideological, it was specific channels.

01:31:53.000 They didn't downrank terms, immigration was still just fine, but it was specific channels that all of a sudden found they weren't getting recommended anymore, and the analytics dropped off entirely.

01:32:03.000 Well, okay, but there's another huge element that happened in there, right?

01:32:06.000 So, in, basically, the internet very quickly went from being, in terms, forget the algorithm point that you were making, which I do think there's a lot of truth to what you're saying, but the internet very quickly went from being, social media went from being kind of the Wild Wild West, where people could kind of say whatever they wanted to say, broadly speaking, not completely, there were some people who got banned, but it was very rare.

01:32:31.000 And what happened was, after Donald Trump won the presidency in 2016, there was this mad scramble from the establishment to explain away why he had won.

01:32:42.000 And they landed on a few ridiculous answers. 0.58

01:32:47.000 One of them was the insane Hillary Clinton op ed lies that he was involved in a conspiracy 0.84

01:32:55.000 with the Russian government, which then the set, the intelligence agencies jumped on and

01:33:00.000 ran with for years.

01:33:02.000 And then that kind of connected to how Putin had interfered in the election and spread

01:33:08.000 fake news.

01:33:09.000 By the way, this is something a lot of people forget.

01:33:11.000 Fake news was not a term Donald Trump made up.

01:33:15.000 This was a term they made up and then he re-appropriated it and turned it around on them.

01:33:21.000 But they were the ones who said there's fake news, fake news, fake news.

01:33:25.000 And the Congress hauled all of the big tech execs in front of them for the

01:33:32.000 first time ever.

01:33:33.000 Now this is a regular thing, but this was the first time this has ever happened before

01:33:36.000 in 2016 when they made Jack Dorsey, who was running Twitter at the time, and Mark Zuckerberg

01:33:42.000 and all these guys come up and they explicitly threatened all of them if they didn't crack

01:33:49.000 down on fake news that they were going to regulate these companies and break up these

01:33:55.000 companies and ruin everything they have.

01:33:58.000 The United States of America's federal government forced this kind of censorship regime on big tech platforms.

01:34:05.000 And I'm not claiming that a lot of these big tech platforms didn't agreeably go along with that.

01:34:11.000 But that is where the origin of it was.

01:34:14.000 I will say, I think it is algorithmic.

01:34:17.000 That being said, it is a fact that, and we now know this, CIA, FBI, intelligence agencies were giving instruction on a weekly basis to these big tech platforms.

01:34:27.000 What was that thing called?

01:34:28.000 What was the operation?

01:34:29.000 What is it called?

01:34:30.000 I don't remember the operation name, but I remember when... Are you talking about back in the day?

01:34:32.000 Mockingbird?

01:34:34.000 No, no, no.

01:34:35.000 That's a long time ago.

01:34:35.000 I'm just saying.

01:34:36.000 Recently, we discovered that, like, Vijaya Ghate was in regular communication with intelligence agencies.

01:34:40.000 Oh, with, like, the Twitter files and all that kind of stuff?

01:34:42.000 The one big regret I have from doing that show with Rogan is I often say, like, I didn't really prepare for anything.

01:34:48.000 Rogan asked me to come and do the show, and I just knew this stuff and was able to talk to them.

01:34:51.000 But, man, if I really sat down, researched, and thought about it, it would have been very obvious for any journalist to say, Tim, ask them if the government is working with them in any way.

01:34:59.000 Oh yeah.

01:35:00.000 And by the way, dude, for the record, you did an incredible job on that show.

01:35:03.000 I still think that's one of the best moments you've ever had in your career.

01:35:06.000 It was amazing to watch.

01:35:08.000 It was amazing.

01:35:10.000 Well, it was.

01:35:10.000 It was.

01:35:11.000 Look, dude, it was incredible.

01:35:12.000 It was incredible to watch them totally crumble over your very basic, you know, just being like your obvious bias.

01:35:18.000 But just imagine, like imagine Imagine if I said...

01:35:22.000 Tim Pool from today could take a time machine and go back and just give Tim Pool from that

01:35:28.000 show a few notes, just like, hey dude, just so you know, it's going to come out in a few

01:35:32.000 years that they're totally in bed with the CIA and the FBI and they're getting money

01:35:37.000 from these organizations and being instructed.

01:35:40.000 And then you could just go in there and you could ask them the direct question and get

01:35:44.000 them on the record, so to speak.

01:35:46.000 It would be amazing, dude.

01:35:47.000 It was really amazing how unprepared they were for the conversation.

01:35:51.000 They assumed Joe was going to bring in some like MAGA guy and then they were just like,

01:35:55.000 well, Carl Benjamin said this and I was like, yeah, he should probably be banned for that.

01:35:58.000 And they're like, oh, and I'm like, yeah, like, I get it.

01:36:00.000 People break the rules.

01:36:01.000 But the, I think one of the big takeaways was when they said, we have this misgendering policy and I pointed out conservatives have an inverted view of misgendering.

01:36:09.000 So you've sided with one of them.

01:36:11.000 Well, because, because the way it went down, if you guys remember this is that they said, no, we don't have a left-wing bias.

01:36:17.000 And then Tim goes, well, you have this misgendering policy and they go, well, yeah, it's wrong to misgender people.

01:36:21.000 And Tim was like, that's a left-wing bias.

01:36:25.000 That is a lie.

01:36:26.000 Because the right-wing perspective is that this would be misgendering.

01:36:30.000 Just to stress, the one regret I have is, I did not ask, the first question is, do you as a business entity have communications with government officials?

01:36:42.000 Yeah.

01:36:42.000 I wouldn't have thought to ask that question.

01:36:45.000 They say, well, of course we do.

01:36:46.000 All companies do.

01:36:47.000 I mean, there's regulators.

01:36:47.000 Okay.

01:36:48.000 My next question is, do you have communication with officials working out of Washington DC?

01:36:52.000 And they say, yes.

01:36:54.000 Okay.

01:36:54.000 Do you have conversations with law enforcement?

01:36:56.000 Then they'd say, well, law enforcement will contact us periodically.

01:36:59.000 And then we would, that would open up the, so law enforcement is giving you instruction on removing certain posts for certain reasons.

01:37:05.000 And the answer is absolutely yes.

01:37:07.000 Okay, so let me, again, and it's not, I don't disagree with a lot of what you're saying, but I just think there's this other element, and I just want, like, two very quick points, okay?

01:37:15.000 Number one, and I think we could all see this, where there are these accounts, like, say, Alex Jones, um, Andrew Tate, um, You know, like a lot of these guys... Nick Fuentes.

01:37:29.000 Yeah, yeah, listen, sure, Nick Fuentes, Gavin McGinnis, a lot of these guys who were enormously popular, who drove the algorithm, but they get plucked out of it.

01:37:41.000 Right.

01:37:41.000 Okay?

01:37:42.000 So it's not just the algorithm driving this, there's also then this bigger hand that comes in, that then picks who the algorithmic winners and losers are going to be.

01:37:52.000 And I would also point out that, by the way, Vivek Ramaswamy's book, Woke Inc., I believe it's called, he goes through a lot of this stuff where it's not, look, they have these, there's this weird thing where like with BlackRock, you know, they'll be pushing like all the DEI stuff, but then you have these state governments, and basically the state governments control the pensions For every government worker in the state.

01:38:17.000 So if you think about every government, the only ones who have pensions anymore, you know, government workers, they're controlling hundreds of billions of dollars.

01:38:25.000 And then they will put these rules that say, we will only invest it with this financial company.

01:38:32.000 If you insist on DEI regulations and all this stuff, my point is that it's not just coming from the bottom up.

01:38:38.000 There's a huge amount of pressure from the top down.

01:38:41.000 I agree.

01:38:41.000 One quick, one quick point before we go to super chats.

01:38:44.000 Riley Moore, the state treasurer for West Virginia, has cut off banks that have ESG policies because one of the reasons is they've shut down investing in fossil fuels, which is a huge economic driver in West Virginia.

01:38:57.000 So he was like, you will no longer get government contracts from us.

01:39:00.000 Well, good for him.

01:39:00.000 I think he said it was a US bank that went, OK, then we won't do it because your money is more important to us.

01:39:05.000 So that's, by the way, you were talking about before, how to fight back.

01:39:08.000 That's a good way of how to fight back.

01:39:10.000 We're gonna go to Super Chats, so if you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends, head over to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member, because we're gonna have a members-only show coming up for you at 10 p.m.

01:39:21.000 tonight, but for now, we will read your Super Chats.

01:39:24.000 Christopher Lambert says, nope, well, you actually were first, so you need to give yourself more credit.

01:39:30.000 Alright, Tim.

01:39:31.000 Yeah, that's a very low confidence first place super chat.

01:39:34.000 Just not gonna get it.

01:39:34.000 You got it.

01:39:35.000 I don't know why I'm in the mood to argue.

01:39:37.000 I disagree.

01:39:37.000 Yeah.

01:39:38.000 Yes.

01:39:39.000 Tim Jake says Louisiana became the 28th state with constitutional carry yesterday when the governor signed the bill.

01:39:45.000 Shout out.

01:39:46.000 I have another.

01:39:46.000 Hell yeah.

01:39:47.000 I have another regret on one of my appearances on Rogan, and it's when I correctly said that half the country is now constitutional carry, and Joe said something like, that can't be correct.

01:39:58.000 Jamie pulled that up.

01:39:59.000 And Jamie pulled up a wrong source, which said 13 states, and I was like, what?

01:40:03.000 I was like, was I wrong about that?

01:40:04.000 I was like, I guess I was wrong about that.

01:40:06.000 I guess I must have been assuming, like, geographic size or something.

01:40:09.000 I don't know.

01:40:09.000 I missed it.

01:40:09.000 Dude, I fact checked myself.

01:40:12.000 As soon as the show was over and I was like, I was right the whole time!

01:40:15.000 28 states.

01:40:16.000 I've been on Rogan a few times where like I say something and then Rogan goes, Jamie pull that up and you just have this thing where you're like, Jamie don't you screw me on this one man.

01:40:25.000 Like you make sure you get the right source on this.

01:40:28.000 Good guy, though.

01:40:28.000 Well, I think what happened was he Googled it.

01:40:30.000 You have to say that, otherwise I'll make you look bad.

01:40:31.000 Yeah.

01:40:32.000 He Google-searched constitutional carry states, and the default Google box said 13, instead of him actually going to the wiki for constitutional carry and seeing the breakdown of all the new states that it signed on.

01:40:44.000 Okay.

01:40:44.000 It was an old source.

01:40:46.000 And so I regretted that, because I'm like, it's very important that people know, at the time it was 25 states and Florida was about to sign their bill, which would have made 26.

01:40:53.000 Now we're at 28.

01:40:54.000 Shoutouts.

01:40:55.000 That's, that's, listen man, we're searching for white pills here, that's pretty awesome.

01:40:59.000 To clarify, Florida's bill is, uh, permit lists concealed, I believe?

01:41:04.000 I believe, I don't know.

01:41:05.000 It is concealed in Florida as far as I know.

01:41:06.000 Permitless concealed, but not open carry.

01:41:09.000 Alright, listen, I will say that open carry, look, from my perspective, it's your absolute right to open carry, but I will also say concealed is so much more important.

01:41:19.000 Like, just strategically, it's more important.

01:41:21.000 Open carry, listen, it's your right to open carry anywhere you want to.

01:41:24.000 It's just kind of like, I don't really recommend it, and it can lead to a lot of different... Why not?

01:41:29.000 You got situations like, if you remember with, um, uh, what was the guy's name out there in, uh, Texas?

01:41:36.000 I believe it was in Austin.

01:41:37.000 Foster?

01:41:38.000 Garrett Foster?

01:41:39.000 Right.

01:41:39.000 I think it was his name, right?

01:41:40.000 So there, he's a Black Lives Matter protester and he's got an AR-15 on his, uh, Yes.

01:41:46.000 So he's got an AR-15 on his shoulder and a car turns around the road and the Black Lives Matter protesters are blocking the road and the car starts honking and starts trying to drive into the crowd.

01:41:57.000 So he runs over, gets his gun in low ready position, and the military, former military guy in the car

01:42:04.000 shoots him and kills him dead, you know?

01:42:07.000 But don't, look, if you're open carrying, don't hold your weapon at low ready at someone. 0.99

01:42:12.000 I'm not saying you should, I'm just saying that there is this problem where,

01:42:16.000 hey look, okay, before holding it at low ready, right?

01:42:20.000 Technically, it is your right to walk with these people and have an open... But once you're in a mob of people, and you have a gun, you do kind of create this situation for someone coming up to you where they're like, I have to treat you like you might be about to aggress on me.

01:42:35.000 I'm just saying personally, I'm not saying what your right is.

01:42:37.000 I disagree.

01:42:38.000 Okay, well, I'm just saying, not what you're right is, I'm saying what I personally like is concealed carry.

01:42:42.000 If anything goes down, I can pull this out and be ready to use it.

01:42:46.000 I don't have to pull it out until I'm ready to use it.

01:42:48.000 That's just my feeling.

01:42:49.000 Regardless of whether or not, Black Lives Matter had shot several people. 0.75

01:42:52.000 I mean, in Provo, Utah, a driver got shot.

01:42:54.000 So anybody who's approaching Black Lives Matter must approach it as if they are concealed armed. 0.58

01:42:58.000 That's, well, that's true.

01:42:59.000 And that being said, you're not, you know, I love how they have these, uh, when they do these legal breakdowns of concealed versus open carry, they put not applicable for long guns, and I'm like, you can absolutely conceal a long gun, like, spare me, dude.

01:43:11.000 But, uh, in the event he did, say, have a trench coat, with his rifle underneath one of the sides, it was concealed, when he decided to grab it and bring it to low-ready, that changed everything.

01:43:24.000 Well, I believe the guy did, uh, get convicted. 0.84

01:43:26.000 Yeah, it's ridiculous. 0.94

01:43:27.000 Which is crazy. 0.91

01:43:29.000 Which is crazy.

01:43:30.000 Because a mob surrounds your car, and a guy comes... With a history of killing people.

01:43:35.000 And a guy comes at you with a gun.

01:43:37.000 Even if there wasn't a history of killing people, that's a good point, too. 1.00

01:43:40.000 But a mob surrounds your car, and a guy has an AR-15 at low-ready, and you got a handgun on you.

01:43:45.000 I think it was an AK.

01:43:46.000 Maybe you're right.

01:43:47.000 Yeah.

01:43:48.000 But you kind of almost have no choice at that point.

01:43:50.000 Like, you cannot... I mean, dude, from low-ready to do-do-do is nothing, right?

01:43:56.000 Low-ready is like... This is a split second.

01:43:58.000 He was holding the weapon.

01:43:59.000 Yes, yes.

01:44:00.000 It's a split second before you're dead.

01:44:02.000 They call it zipping up your target.

01:44:04.000 You don't actually start shooting.

01:44:05.000 You start shooting right away.

01:44:08.000 It's totally unreasonable to say that you have to sit here and trust that that person isn't about to murder you, rather than say, I can't- It's almost like- Wait, wait, wait.

01:44:18.000 All you gotta do to make the argument to say, when a police officer is facing someone holding a rifle at low ready, and then the average person goes, you're right.

01:44:26.000 Well, not the average person in that group.

01:44:28.000 Right, right, right.

01:44:29.000 But yeah, the rest of us probably do.

01:44:30.000 We gotta read more Super Chats though, so let's grab some more, let's see what we got here.

01:44:35.000 Hi Guy, Superfly says, every single problem we are having is the result of government being way too big.

01:44:39.000 Love you, Dave.

01:44:40.000 God bless you.

01:44:41.000 That's such a good point, man.

01:44:43.000 And by the way, listen, I'm not going to go off on it for too long, but it is absolutely, totally true that the whole Donald Trump drain the swamp thing.

01:44:50.000 It's like, well, what is the swamp?

01:44:52.000 The swamp is that our centralized federal government spends over six trillion dollars a year and that all the richest people in the world are connected to the political class.

01:45:02.000 If you want to drain the swamp, the answer is drastic cuts in government spending.

01:45:07.000 Alright, I'm not your buddy guy, says MuchRespectDaveSmith, but right now is all-hands-on-deck moment to save not just the US but the world with Trump.

01:45:16.000 We're walking a fine line with chaos.

01:45:19.000 You gonna vote for Trump?

01:45:20.000 No. 1.00

01:45:23.000 First of all, voting is ridiculous. 0.99

01:45:26.000 It's all an illusion. 0.97

01:45:26.000 So you're not gonna vote? 0.97

01:45:29.000 No, I might.

01:45:31.000 But I'll vote for the, as of right now, I'll vote for the Libertarian Party candidate.

01:45:36.000 But look, I know people will be like- So R.K.

01:45:37.000 Jr.?

01:45:37.000 No.

01:45:42.000 No, uh, but look, I know everyone say right now is an all hands on deck moment.

01:45:46.000 I'm not disagreeing with you about the severity of the moment.

01:45:50.000 I'm disagreeing with you about participating in this ridiculous ritual of the state that is democracy and pretending like that's actually you having an effect in the moment.

01:46:01.000 It's not.

01:46:02.000 Listen, Donald Trump, if you're saying Donald Trump's going to save us, like, I know we've argued about this on the podcast before.

01:46:11.000 Donald Trump needs to demonstrate to me that he's actually learned something from the last time around.

01:46:16.000 Fair point.

01:46:17.000 But I know it's going to happen.

01:46:18.000 No new wars.

01:46:18.000 Whole bunch of the old ones, though.

01:46:20.000 Sure.

01:46:21.000 And timelines for getting out of them.

01:46:22.000 I mean... One.

01:46:24.000 But yes, yes, Abraham Accords. 0.65

01:46:28.000 Come on Tim, we've argued about this already.

01:46:29.000 The Abraham Accords are a huge part of why there's the war in Israel and Gaza right now.

01:46:35.000 Yeah, but you guys are wrong.

01:46:37.000 Everyone who's listening, I know what's going to happen.

01:46:41.000 When's election day?

01:46:42.000 It's November 3rd or what is it?

01:46:44.000 Is it the 5th?

01:46:45.000 I don't know.

01:46:45.000 Something like that.

01:46:46.000 I know what's going to happen.

01:46:48.000 Dave Smith is going to be wearing a trench coat, glasses with a fake nose and fake mustache, as he sneaks into the polling place, looks around, and then when he thinks no one's looking, he's going to press Trump, and then he's going to slink back into the shadows and disappear.

01:47:02.000 It's all that, except I just write in Ron Paul, and then I leave.

01:47:05.000 If it's all an illusion, why have a political party?

01:47:08.000 Why run for office?

01:47:09.000 Why run for office?

01:47:10.000 Okay, so there's several purposes.

01:47:12.000 Like number one is to, entering the political process helps you spread a message and helps

01:47:18.000 you like alert people to things.

01:47:20.000 But why show your consent to a system that you don't think is worthwhile?

01:47:24.000 Well I'm not saying I'm showing my consent to a system I don't think is worthwhile.

01:47:28.000 I'm saying I'm entering an arena to point out that I think the system isn't worthwhile.

01:47:33.000 By the way, I do think that local elections can be- You're using the electoral system to do that.

01:47:38.000 We get it, we get it.

01:47:38.000 Right.

01:47:39.000 So what point does that make?

01:47:41.000 Like, why be involved in it if you don't think it's, if it's, if you think it's fake?

01:47:45.000 Why be involved in it?

01:47:45.000 Because I just said, I think it's fake and I want people to understand that it's fake.

01:47:49.000 Getting up on stage while everyone's debating and saying this is a waste of time.

01:47:52.000 But we'll read more Super Chats.

01:47:52.000 I get it.

01:47:53.000 Sure.

01:47:54.000 Uh, we got, uh, I'll give a shout out to Troy Rubert.

01:47:56.000 He says, check out the program Khan's Cults and Kidnapping. 0.99

01:47:59.000 Interesting.

01:48:00.000 Uh, let's see what else we have.

01:48:01.000 The Authentic Hydro PX.

01:48:02.000 Oh, he's the real one.

01:48:03.000 He says, Tim, I can't believe you would insult sixth graders by comparing them to Bill Maher's intelligence on your 4pm segment.

01:48:11.000 Agreed.

01:48:12.000 Moving on.

01:48:13.000 Yeah, I basically said, uh, I've had people ask me if I would go on, like, real time.

01:48:17.000 Not from them, they've never reached out to me and said, we'd love to have you on the show, but I've had people who are, like, in their circle and have worked with them saying, like, we'd love to get you on that show and we'll reach out to them and make the connection, and I said, no.

01:48:26.000 I will not go on that show.

01:48:28.000 Because it's, it's like, for the same reason, Dave, like, if someone asked you to go debate a, the president of the sixth grade class at the local public school, would you do it?

01:48:38.000 you'd be like, what's the point?

01:48:41.000 Look, I probably would still do it if they asked me because I'd still be like...

01:48:47.000 He hates sixth graders. He wants them to be mad about themselves.

01:48:50.000 I want to wreck these sixth graders.

01:48:51.000 No, I assume you see it as a chance to evangelize about libertarianism.

01:48:54.000 Well, like maybe, because like, okay, let me see if I could beat this

01:48:58.000 game and get some good points out and maybe make some people think. But the thing that makes me

01:49:03.000 not want to is that there are these things where sometimes on Bill Maher's show,

01:49:07.000 there'll just be these moments where someone's like making a point. And then Bill Maher will

01:49:13.000 just like, he'll almost just like say a slogan. And then the audience goes,

01:49:17.000 right. And then you're just like, oh, dude, come on.

01:49:21.000 He even gets annoyed at his audience sometimes. 1.00

01:49:23.000 The crazy thing about Bill Maher is that it drives him nuts that his audience is so stupid. 1.00

01:49:28.000 This is the point I'm making. 1.00

01:49:30.000 If you go into a sixth grade classroom, and you're arguing taxes, and you're saying, let's talk about what a flat tax could look like, let's do a sales tax only system, and the other sixth grade kid is sitting there with a smirk on his face, and he goes, hey, you're stupid, and you smell like farts. 0.99

01:49:46.000 Then the whole class erupts and they're all laughing, and you're like, guys, listen. 0.99

01:49:49.000 Yeah, this is not a good system format.

01:49:52.000 So when Dennis Prager goes on the show and says that the official position of the left today is that men menstruate, they all bust out laughing and hooting like seals, clapping. 0.75

01:50:05.000 Without even fact-checking, without looking into it, they all laugh and say, haha, he's so dumb, and I'm like, what is the point of going in there?

01:50:12.000 And I'll tell you this, many people make the argument, yeah, but you're on this big show and everyone can see and you can prove them wrong. 0.94

01:50:17.000 No, you can't. 0.99

01:50:18.000 Because when Bill Maher, as the leader of the show, says something insanely stupid, like he did with, fortunately, Badia was there, but when the audience all laughs, and when everyone laughed at Dennis Prager, The reinforcement in the mind of the audience is, wow, this conservative guy Dennis Prager is really, really stupid. 0.99

01:50:37.000 And the first impression that anybody would have with Prager is, that guy's insane and everyone was laughing at him. 0.99

01:50:43.000 Don't put yourself in that position.

01:50:44.000 Now, Club Random I would go on.

01:50:46.000 I would sit down in a chair with just Bill Maher, and I would be like, Bill, can I go through a list of all the things you're wrong about?

01:50:52.000 And it's funny, because I used to watch Bill Maher all the time when I was a kid.

01:50:54.000 Yeah, me too.

01:50:55.000 And now it's just like, he's retired.

01:50:57.000 He doesn't pay attention, he doesn't read the news.

01:50:59.000 Well, I get your point, and it's especially from your perspective, where you're somebody who's built up an audience that's... I mean, I don't remember what Bill Maher's ratings were last I checked, but... A million.

01:51:11.000 about a million. So you're certainly comparable, maybe bigger than what, what his audience is,

01:51:16.000 but whatever. Let's just say he's a snake of argument. He's well, he's once a week and we're

01:51:20.000 five times a week. So, okay. So yes, raw numbers, your orders of magnitude above him, but just for

01:51:27.000 whatever the audience, cause I, you know, I assume a lot of people listen to every episode of your

01:51:31.000 show. So whatever, but the point is just for the sake of argument saying you have comparable

01:51:35.000 numbers, but you're sitting here and having a conversation for hours where ideas can actually

01:51:40.000 be flushed out where it's not just like, Oh, here's a quick segment. I'll do a 10 minute

01:51:44.000 interview with audience, you know, reactions in the middle.

01:51:48.000 It's just a different thing.

01:51:49.000 Here's the big difference.

01:51:51.000 If someone were to claim Jack Posobiec said he wants to overthrow democracy, we'd play the clip.

01:51:55.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, right.

01:51:56.000 Here's the clip from Let's See What They Said.

01:51:57.000 He just goes on a show, reads a card, and says, I can't believe that happened.

01:52:00.000 So it's just, it's, it's, it's archaic, I guess.

01:52:03.000 It's an old system.

01:52:04.000 Yeah, that's right.

01:52:05.000 That's exactly right.

01:52:06.000 And Club Random is the new system, so that would be cool.

01:52:09.000 Right.

01:52:10.000 And we, we've, we've invited him in many, many ways and offered to compromise, and his

01:52:14.000 people always say no.

01:52:15.000 Yeah.

01:52:15.000 So he was coming to D.C.

01:52:16.000 and we were like, we'd love to have him on the show.

01:52:17.000 He said, he's unavailable.

01:52:18.000 I said, I totally get it.

01:52:20.000 You don't want to do a podcast when you're about to do a comedy show.

01:52:23.000 And then they were like, yeah, maybe another time.

01:52:24.000 I said, well, let us know your future availability.

01:52:26.000 We'd love to have Bill on the Culture War podcast.

01:52:28.000 Sit down.

01:52:28.000 And they said, unfortunately, he's not going to be on the East Coast.

01:52:31.000 And we said, we'll come to the West Coast.

01:52:33.000 And they were like, uh, and then stopped responding.

01:52:37.000 That was it.

01:52:39.000 So shout out to Dan Crenshaw as well, who also bailed on us twice and then stopped responding to our emails.

01:52:44.000 And we were nice, we were like... Dan Crenshaw, by the way, he hangs out in my YouTube, uh, like, I thought this was just a fake guy, being, uh, pretending he's Dan Crenshaw, and then my producer was like, no, this is the real Dan Crenshaw, and he just hangs out in my YouTube comments, like, arguing with people sometimes.

01:52:59.000 So, hey, Dan Crenshaw, I'll have you on, too, anytime.

01:53:02.000 He won't do it.

01:53:03.000 And, uh... Debate me, Dan Crenshaw.

01:53:05.000 I think the issue with someone like Dan Crenshaw is, anybody who truly believes what they're saying would love to debate you.

01:53:11.000 Yeah.

01:53:11.000 Because they're like, I know what I'm talking about.

01:53:12.000 I will sit down and I will, I will, I will tell you.

01:53:15.000 Anybody who knows what they're saying is bunk will run from the camera and run from the microphone because they know they can't defend incorrect ideas.

01:53:22.000 Well, and also I'm not like inviting you on like a Bill Maher type situation where the whole audience is on my side and you get 20 minutes to talk.

01:53:29.000 I'm saying like no time limit.

01:53:31.000 I will debate you for as long as you want on whatever platform you want.

01:53:35.000 So yeah, I'd be happy to do it.

01:53:36.000 Have you been a Bill Maher before?

01:53:38.000 Bill Maher?

01:53:38.000 Have you been on real time?

01:53:39.000 No, no, no, never.

01:53:40.000 Could you imagine?

01:53:41.000 I'm just thinking about what it would be like if you and Bill Maher sat down.

01:53:44.000 It'd be great.

01:53:45.000 It would be humiliating for him.

01:53:46.000 Well, listen, the first thing I'll tell you this, here's the first thing I'd have to start with, okay?

01:53:51.000 When I was 16, either 16 or 17 years old, so this is back in the 90s, I got a TV VCR in my room, which doesn't say, but in the nineties, that was going to get you laid.

01:54:06.000 You know what I mean?

01:54:07.000 It was like a big deal at the time.

01:54:09.000 And I got it and I didn't have cable, but I had an antenna TV and that just got the networks.

01:54:16.000 And I found on ABC channel seven in New York city, politically incorrect at night and politically incorrect to me.

01:54:27.000 I watched it at 17, and I was like, this is the coolest thing I've ever seen in my life.

01:54:32.000 That there was this political comedian who was being funny and also making good points, and it had a huge impact on me.

01:54:40.000 It's what I ended up becoming in my life.

01:54:44.000 So I give Bill Maher this credit.

01:54:46.000 There's something about him that I kind of respect.

01:54:50.000 Yeah, I'd debate him in a second, because he's wrong about so many things.

01:54:53.000 I don't even know how he would handle a debate with you.

01:54:56.000 He'd be like, I don't know about that.

01:54:58.000 I don't know about that. 0.95

01:54:59.000 There'd be a lot of stuff he just doesn't know about, and then he'd do a lot of like, oh, come on, that's ridiculous. 0.93

01:55:05.000 Ah, you're one of those guys. 0.88

01:55:07.000 Like, that's kind of what he does.

01:55:09.000 But I think we could have an interesting conversation.

01:55:13.000 I'd be down to do it even if it wasn't a debate.

01:55:14.000 I would just sit down and talk to him, you know?

01:55:16.000 But like, he's a... I don't think it's going to happen.

01:55:19.000 Don't hold your breath.

01:55:20.000 Alright, let's read some more Super Chats.

01:55:21.000 We got... A Siri Design saying, Nikki Haley and whoever is backing her knows something we don't.

01:55:27.000 She might be inept, but there's something else going on.

01:55:29.000 Yeah, feels like that. 0.99

01:55:30.000 Agreed.

01:55:31.000 I completely agree.

01:55:31.000 It's just too nonsensical to be happening without that.

01:55:34.000 Right, there was a shadow campaign in 2020.

01:55:36.000 I don't know what the shadow campaign is in 2024, but I believe there is one.

01:55:42.000 Look, Nikki Haley very obviously is not running a campaign in the way you think a campaign is run. 0.99

01:55:50.000 She's not speaking to the voters.

01:55:53.000 She's speaking to a donor class.

01:55:55.000 She's speaking to the CIA.

01:55:56.000 Do you think she's going to drop out tomorrow? 0.87

01:55:58.000 What are the odds right now?

01:56:00.000 Because we have like 11 states reporting.

01:56:02.000 I think there's a good chance.

01:56:03.000 It'd be very hard for her.

01:56:05.000 I think her bet was that... It's up to the donors.

01:56:08.000 Her bet was that something would happen with Trump by now.

01:56:11.000 Yes, I agree.

01:56:11.000 It's up to the donors.

01:56:12.000 Look, Nikki Haley very clearly is taking marching orders. 0.98

01:56:15.000 She's not making these decisions herself.

01:56:18.000 She's doing what her handlers are telling her to do, and that is going to guarantee, mark my words, she will end up in a very cushy position one way or another in the next year. 0.99

01:56:30.000 MSNBC host or CNN host?

01:56:33.000 It might be that.

01:56:34.000 It might be the board of a financial company.

01:56:36.000 It might just be giving speeches to banks for $500,000 a speech, but she will be in a cushy position. 1.00

01:56:42.000 We got another one.

01:56:43.000 This is breaking news, actually, from Justin G. Breaking.

01:56:45.000 Texas just called for Jeb Bush in surprise upset promises guac for all.

01:56:50.000 Wow, that's surprising.

01:56:51.000 I didn't see that coming.

01:56:52.000 Yeah, wow, surprising.

01:56:53.000 The guac and queso vote in Texas is a really big deal.

01:56:56.000 Isn't it funny that it's been almost 10 years and Jeb will still be the meme?

01:57:00.000 Dude, you know what's crazy?

01:57:01.000 Is that before, before, I know people can't, you know, things move so fast.

01:57:06.000 No one remembers.

01:57:06.000 Before he ran against Trump, number one, he was the front runner for a little while before Trump came in.

01:57:12.000 And before that he was the respected member of the Bush family who was like supposed to be the smart one, who was a really good governor and all of this.

01:57:22.000 And then Trump just took his soul.

01:57:25.000 My favorite thing about Donald Trump is just what he does to all the worst people in the country.

01:57:31.000 Oh, when he said your brother lied?

01:57:34.000 It was so much fun.

01:57:36.000 I was laughing.

01:57:37.000 It was amazing.

01:57:38.000 And look what he's doing to Nikki Haley right now.

01:57:41.000 Think about how strong DeSantis seemed as a candidate when he first jumped in.

01:57:45.000 And it's just like, yeah, okay, but really?

01:57:48.000 You want to wrestle with a pitbull? 1.00

01:57:49.000 Okay, let's see how you come out.

01:57:51.000 Let's grab this one.

01:57:52.000 Dr. Tran says, Operation Mockingbird has become infested with so many leftists that we can't take it seriously anymore.

01:57:58.000 The Overton window has gone too far left.

01:58:01.000 I do want to give a shout out.

01:58:02.000 Referring to the corporate press as Operation Mockingbird is a good way to do it. 0.86

01:58:06.000 It's not bad.

01:58:07.000 Instead of saying the corporate press, we'll just call them all Operation Mockingbird from now on.

01:58:11.000 Yeah.

01:58:12.000 That's a good name for them.

01:58:14.000 I agree.

01:58:15.000 Let's grab some more super chats.

01:58:18.000 What do we have here?

01:58:21.000 Uh, let's see.

01:58:21.000 I don't know what that one's about.

01:58:22.000 Uh, some people are pointing out Trump is winning in Texas.

01:58:25.000 That's fantastic.

01:58:26.000 Glad to hear it.

01:58:27.000 We will move on a little bit.

01:58:30.000 Mad Max says, Nikki Haley is the Deep State's neocon warrior princess.

01:58:33.000 Wet dream candidate.

01:58:34.000 She's the political succubus. 1.00

01:58:37.000 Wow.

01:58:38.000 Yeah.

01:58:39.000 There you go.

01:58:40.000 Uh, Ron Bayo, shout it again, says, John Dalmayan, Dalmayan, the drummer for System of a Down is a Trump supporter, took a lot of flack over it. 0.99

01:58:49.000 Shut up. 0.95

01:58:49.000 Yeah, that's what I said. 0.95

01:58:50.000 I don't, I don't know that System of a Down is bad at all.

01:58:51.000 I'm just saying it's funny that there were so many, uh, you know, anti-establishment bands in the late 90s, 2000s that were supported by the establishment.

01:58:58.000 But I like System of a Down.

01:59:00.000 I don't know.

01:59:00.000 I, I like them a bit more.

01:59:02.000 They had a bunch of good songs.

01:59:03.000 It was just, I think there was like during the COVID thing, I saw a thing where they were like supporting the thing.

01:59:07.000 So it was just kind of like, Oh, well, what the hell?

01:59:09.000 Oh no, maybe that was Rage Against the Machine.

01:59:10.000 I'm sorry.

01:59:10.000 The Offspring is the worst.

01:59:11.000 Yeah.

01:59:12.000 Absolute worst.

01:59:16.000 Yeah.

01:59:17.000 They fired their drummer because his doctor said, you can't get the vaccine.

01:59:21.000 And they were like, don't care!

01:59:23.000 And there were other bands that were getting medical exemption and the venues were allowing them to play, so.

01:59:28.000 Went from being my favorite band since I was a kid to my least favorite band and some of the most despicable people you can think of.

01:59:34.000 But it is a great honor, in my life, that the first song I ever learned how to play on the guitar is The Kids Aren't Alright by The Offspring, written by Noodles, of The Offspring, who has me blocked on Twitter now.

01:59:45.000 Wow.

01:59:46.000 That's an arc I never saw, I never expected.

01:59:48.000 If you came to me when you came, like, that song you're learning, one day that man will hate you.

01:59:50.000 Yeah.

01:59:51.000 I'd be like, really?

01:59:52.000 Wow!

01:59:53.000 Marina Navratilova blocked me on Twitter the other day, and I was like, what the hell?

01:59:57.000 What's that about? 0.65

01:59:57.000 Isn't that crazy? 0.65

01:59:58.000 Just like, you go, he's gonna block you on Twitter, and you'd be like, what does that mean?

02:00:02.000 What does that mean?

02:00:02.000 What is Twitter?

02:00:03.000 Alright, well let me start, let me try to explain this to you.

02:00:05.000 Alright, first off, you know how phones work?

02:00:07.000 Alright, well at some point that's gonna be like an internet, and then they don't need the wires anymore, and then... I don't know, dude.

02:00:13.000 It's just that your computer connects to other computers.

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02:00:51.000 Dave, do you want to shout anything out?

02:00:53.000 Part of The Problem is my podcast.

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02:01:02.000 At ComicDaveSmith on Twitter.

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02:01:07.000 And just thanks to all you guys.

02:01:09.000 Thanks to you, Tim, for having me on so many times.

02:01:11.000 Dude, I love this show.

02:01:12.000 It's incredible what you've built up.

02:01:13.000 Always good episodes.

02:01:14.000 Well, thank you.

02:01:15.000 I appreciate that.

02:01:16.000 And I appreciate you guys boosting my signal and all that.

02:01:19.000 So great work, what you guys are doing.

02:01:20.000 And thanks to all you guys for coming out tonight.

02:01:22.000 You're the best.

02:01:23.000 Live studio audience.

02:01:24.000 I like it.

02:01:25.000 It doesn't...

02:01:26.000 They cheer for you.

02:01:27.000 It feels good.

02:01:28.000 Dude, I'll tell you, because there's such a big ceiling in here, it does almost sound

02:01:32.000 like it was like I was like Carl Winslow, like, listen, Eddie, you can always tell me

02:01:37.000 whatever you want.

02:01:38.000 And then we're like, yeah.

02:01:39.000 There you go.

02:01:40.000 Yep.

02:01:41.000 Remember Family Matters?

02:01:42.000 No, we don't do that.

02:01:44.000 The 90s were great.

02:01:45.000 Whatever happened to... We'll get an applause and laughter signs next time, so whenever you make a joke, we'll light it up.

02:01:51.000 That's what Bill Maher has.

02:01:53.000 We won't tell you they're there, so you feel really good about yourself.

02:01:55.000 Wow, I'm crushing.

02:01:56.000 That wasn't even a joke and they laughed.

02:01:58.000 I'm crushing tonight.

02:02:00.000 The Full House theme is what you started to sing.

02:02:02.000 Ah, you're right.

02:02:02.000 That's right.

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02:02:08.000 Libby, do you have anything to shout out?

02:02:11.000 Yeah, I'm Libby Emmons.

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02:02:20.000 Hannah Clare.

02:02:21.000 Oh yeah.

02:02:22.000 Guys, it's been awesome having you all here.

02:02:23.000 It's definitely a cool change of pace.

02:02:25.000 I'm glad Dave is here too.

02:02:27.000 I'm Hannah Clare Brimelow.

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02:02:33.000 And I'm on social medias, you know, htbrimelow on Twitter.

02:02:36.000 Yeah.

02:02:37.000 Happy Super Tuesday.

02:02:38.000 Sorry it wasn't that eventful.

02:02:39.000 It was just Tuesday.

02:02:40.000 Just Tuesday.

02:02:41.000 Turned out just another Tuesday.

02:02:43.000 Ian Crosland.

02:02:44.000 Yo, check me out on the internet.

02:02:45.000 Everywhere and anywhere.

02:02:46.000 I love you.

02:02:47.000 Great.

02:02:47.000 Good to see you guys.

02:02:48.000 Let's do this again.

02:02:49.000 Maybe next month.

02:02:51.000 I don't know if we have a camera for Serge.

02:02:52.000 Oh, no.

02:02:53.000 Do we have a Serge cam?

02:02:55.000 Nope.

02:02:55.000 No Serge cam.

02:02:56.000 Serge says to follow him.

02:02:57.000 He's Serge.com and whatever.

02:03:00.000 We'll see you all over at TimCast.com in a few minutes.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - March 06, 2024

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