It may be the end of gay marriage, the Supreme Court may take up the case challenging the landmark ruling in Obergefell v. Hodges, and Jennifer Lawrence says, "If you're an actor, nobody cares what you think about politics."
00:02:32.000Tomorrow, there's going to be a private hearing at the Supreme Court to determine whether or not they will actually take the case, which challenges the landmark ruling O'Bergevel v. Hodges, Supreme Court v. Obergefell v. What is it?
00:02:50.000And if they do pick this up, the presumption is the 6-3 court is going to overturn gay marriage, at least recognized at the federal level, meaning states will, it'll go the way of Roe v. Wade.
00:03:01.000Now, the op-eds are a fly-in, and concerns are flying among these left-wing groups that, yeah, look, it's a right-wing Supreme Court.
00:03:09.000It's probably going to happen, but we don't know for sure.
00:03:20.000Also, Donald Trump has been ordered to fund SNAP fully by Friday.
00:03:25.000Despite saying you won't do it, and despite there being no money to do it, the courts are arguing that Trump should do things outside of his power.
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00:03:46.000And then she made this look and issued a snappy comeback that's gone viral.
00:03:50.000And Jennifer Lawrence says, if you're an actor, nobody cares what you think about politics, and she's going to back away from it.
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00:07:55.000It actually initially broke a couple weeks ago.
00:07:58.000The Supreme Court has scheduled a private conference Friday to decide whether to hear a challenge brought by former Kentucky county clerk Kim Davis, which urges the Supreme Court to overturn Obergefell v. Hodges.
00:08:10.000Matthew Stavor, attorney for Davis, told Newsweek last month that Obergefell has no basis in the Constitution, saying the decade-old decision could be overruled without affecting any other cases.
00:08:20.000Although many legal analysts believe since marriage rights are unlikely to be overturned, even by the conservative-leaning Supreme Court, Obergefell told Newsweek in a Wednesday interview that he remains concerned.
00:08:29.000He pointed to the justices' 2022 decision to overturn Roe v. Wade, which had guaranteed abortion access across the country for nearly 50 years.
00:08:36.000Quote, this court to me is far from normal, and that's what concerns me.
00:08:41.000We now have a Supreme Court that has shown it is willing to turn its back on precedent, which has always been a bedrock principle for the Supreme Court, he said.
00:08:48.000Now, that is an ignorant statement because there are many circumstances in which the Supreme Court has overturned precedent.
00:08:55.000Perhaps this man would like to go back in time far enough to where the Supreme Court agreed with segregation.
00:09:15.000I think using Roe versus Wade as some kind of metric to say that this is possible to be overturned is a very bad mistake because even Ruth Bader Ginsburg was clear about the fact that the Roe decision was a bad decision.
00:09:32.000Like they were looking for a result with Roe.
00:09:34.000They weren't actually deciding based on any kind of legal precedent or any kind of legal reasoning beyond we are looking for this result.
00:09:45.000And when even, you know, Ruth Bader Ginsburg is the one that's making that statement, that's saying this was actually a bad decision, you can't say that, oh, well, you know, this indicates that they're going to overturn other things in the future.
00:09:58.000Now, I'm not sure the particulars on Obergefeld as to why it was decided the way it was.
00:10:04.000So I can't speak to as to if the decision is on firmer ground, but to use.
00:10:12.000Basically, Obergefell is the one that forces states to recognize gay marriages.
00:10:16.000So in states that have legal gay marriage, if you get married there and go to a state that doesn't, they have to recognize that marriage under Obergefell.
00:10:23.000So if this is overturned, it basically just means that states will have to do it on their own, which is why I believe it is very likely it gets overturned.
00:10:35.000Whether or not because of the Second Amendment stuff.
00:10:36.000So then my question is, so if it gets overturned, then are the states that before the rulings that were pro-gay marriage and had gay marriage legalized, then are they all starting out that way again?
00:10:48.000Or do they all have to then reapply like re like institute policies that legalize it?
00:10:52.000Or do then states, are they forced to then criminalize it if they deem to do so, which I seem to be like, that seems like a really hard thing to do.
00:11:00.000Is criminalizing the same as not right?
00:11:06.000I honestly have, I mean, this is the first time I'm hearing of this, but I also agree.
00:11:10.000I think that, you know, making a comparison between Roe v. Wade and this is drastically, I mean, they're so different for myriad reasons, but I think the biggest is that I think that conservatives who would be most concerned with any of these things, right?
00:11:28.000I think conservatives have, by and large, come to a place where they're accepting of gays in gay marriage on a level that it was still not something that they wanted to just eat when it came to abortion.
00:11:44.000Abortion is a much more polarizing concept.
00:11:48.000That is literally, you have one side that says, my body, my choice, and the other that says this is murder, right?
00:11:54.000And then you also had states that, or have states still, that are practicing late-term abortion.
00:12:01.000And that is a very concerning thing for a lot of people that are conservatives and possibly even some people that are not conservative.
00:12:07.000But I think with gay marriage, I'd like to believe that we've enlightened as a society to the point where we can see that it's not harming anybody.
00:12:17.000It's like I'm not one of those enlightened people, to be honest with you.
00:12:21.000I wanted to mention, since you were remarking earlier on how divisive this decision would be, I think these justices are in this current climate genuinely in danger if they were to make a majority decision to overturn.
00:12:37.000I mean, their lives literally would be in danger.
00:12:42.000Given what we have seen from these LGBTQ plus ideologues, their rhetoric online and in person, I genuinely think they would be too afraid to even make this decision, just in a totally self-interested way.
00:12:58.000I think their lives would be on the line.
00:13:14.000I mean, I guess what I'm saying is that it's very clear to see the damage done by abortion, right?
00:13:20.000I mean, if you're a conservative, and again, even people that aren't conservative, but I mean, you can look at that.
00:13:24.000You can look at literally millions of lives that are terminated in the womb and at various points along that life developing within the mother.
00:13:35.000And I think that I've always found it to be a pretty logical argument that, like, yes, listen, at some point, that goes from not just your body, your choice.
00:13:42.000There's another body inside your body.
00:13:44.000But when it comes to gay marriage, we've now had that.
00:13:47.000It's been in states even before it was federal.
00:13:49.000And we've seen that it's not going and cascading, I believe, into affecting other people's lives in a detrimental way.
00:13:57.000It is allowing these people to have their life, to go live their life.
00:14:01.000And I think that it would be detrimental.
00:14:44.000But I think that demanding marriage in particular, to participate in that social institution in particular, I believe that is why should the government be involved in anybody's marriage?
00:14:58.000Because it's a public act that's the rest of society.
00:15:47.000So we covered this video from back in like 2010 of Jack Black and a bunch of Hollywood celebrities, SNL cast members, doing a song, a musical for Proposition 8 in California about gay marriage.
00:16:00.000And in it, the conservatives in the video say they'll teach kids about sodomy.
00:16:06.000And then all of the liberals run to vote against it.
00:16:08.000And they go, wait a minute, that was a lie.
00:16:10.000And the conservatives respond by saying, but it worked, so we don't care.
00:16:14.000Except literally now where we are is the argument for why children should be taught sodomy in the classroom, and we've debated these people on the show, is that so long as gay marriage exists, children should be taught about it.
00:16:26.000So now what happens is the tangible world example was we had someone come on the show and say, there's a teacher in Florida who's gay, and he has a picture of his husband on his desk.
00:17:05.000Earmuffs for your kids because we've covered this before, but here we go.
00:17:08.000One of the books that was in the school curriculum in Chicago, Florida, a bunch of states actually, taught children about scatological scat.
00:17:19.000And the argument was these are all part of the LGBTQIA sexual experience and sex ed must teach it.
00:17:26.000So the argument now is, if gay marriage is a legal function of society, you cannot discriminate against gay couples' sexual practices in sex ed.
00:17:34.000And I would argue that you can still allow people to protect that.
00:17:39.000You can still protect gay marriage and also have a conversation.
00:17:42.000We shouldn't have any of that garbage in any schools, whether, by the way, it's sodomy or otherwise.
00:17:46.000I don't know why we're not putting it on the parents to have conversations about sex at home.
00:17:50.000Why do we need to be telling kids about all that stuff in school?
00:18:00.000There are people, perhaps, in the whatever, the higher up levels of the LGBTQIA or whatever it is that might have the activists, whatever, that have agenda.
00:18:12.000There are plenty of normal, wonderful gay and lesbians who just want to live normal lives and just want to be able to have that ability and have the ability to marry their loved one and live out their life together and be able to have the rights in the hospital and have the rights when it comes to taxes and all of those things.
00:18:30.000And I agree with all that, but there is no, so when I was, you know, 15 years ago, when all of my friends were like, exactly the point you made, we all agreed with, we were like, that should be the standard.
00:18:43.000Obviously, it's the privacy of your own home.
00:18:45.000We don't, we're not talking about this stuff in schools.
00:19:11.000Sorry, just when you have teachers, doctors, people walking down the street holding hands, TV shows, the cultural elements of that expand outward.
00:19:20.000And it ends up with a scenario where we're now debating why LGBTQ activists demand sodomy, scat, and other weird things.
00:19:29.000I'll refrain from saying the more graphic stuff that we've seen in these books in schools.
00:19:35.000Why did the battlefield become don't teach kids about sodomy?
00:19:39.000It's because it's one degree away from a gay married couple are teachers in this school and this is part of their life and the kids should learn it.
00:19:47.000Are there books like those in schools, in elementary schools, that are teaching kids about just regular heterosexuals?
00:20:01.000So school curriculums have this is the argument from the LGBTQ.
00:20:07.000There are numerous books that are young adult that include sexual content and discussions about safe sex or otherwise that vary from sex ed into young adult romance and interest.
00:20:20.000The argument is so long as a child either gets a book that discusses heterosexual sex or can find it in the library, the alternate must be available under the Civil Rights Act.
00:20:31.000And what I would say is take all of it out.
00:21:01.000It's not that hard to delineate between what is, again, if you're talking about something that's a romantic relationship that is portrayed in a fictional book like Hugger Games or something like that, that is very different than a picture book of this is how you soon.
00:21:17.000Which is one thing that I want to say.
00:21:23.000And I understand the point that you're making, but the people that desire to have this information in schools, the people that are LGBT activists, it doesn't matter what's hard.
00:21:33.000The point is they're going to push for it because they want to have that effect and they want kids to have this information because they believe that it will help kids that are gay open up about their gayness.
00:21:46.000They believe that when it comes to trans kids, when it comes to trans kids, which I don't believe exists, but when it comes to, they want to have information about trans in school so that way there will be kids that will say, oh, I am trans.
00:21:59.000So I understand your point and I do agree, but I think that the problem is there won't be just a, well, you know, we can leave it be.
00:22:07.000It's not that it's, it's actually, it will be hard.
00:22:09.000That's the issue is that activists at the school level, the people who are pushing for this stuff to be there, they are going to use guilt by association.
00:22:16.000They're going to tell you that you're a bigot if you don't allow this stuff to be in schools.
00:22:19.000Those are very powerful motivators for people who may not be politically inclined to suddenly being called names by people who have a lot of cachet in the community because those communities command a lot of respect and attention from the people there.
00:22:31.000Back in the day when they would talk about sex ed, a lot of the issue was like they didn't want sex ed in school at all.
00:22:37.000And the argument was we need to teach them about sex ed because kids are going to come home with, you know, HIV and diseases.
00:22:42.000So I'll say, I agree with you on all these things.
00:22:45.000The question becomes, why is this now the battleground?
00:22:50.000Where it used to be that we didn't have to fight over the issue of why are they giving these books to kids.
00:22:56.000The argument is society culture, it's a gradient.
00:23:00.000Once gay marriage became legal, you now had a bunch of openly gay teachers, male and female, talking openly about their gay relationships.
00:23:08.000Then when the issue of sex ed came up, they then said, okay, kids, here's how we do sex ed.
00:23:15.000So again, I understand, I agree with you, take it all out.
00:23:18.000But the argument over the ramifications of gay marriages as a legal structure of government is society will now have to redebate where we stand after we create a massive new component, a new infrastructure of society.
00:23:30.000Certainly, but we always have to debate.
00:23:31.000We always have to come back to the table.
00:23:33.000We always have to be asking ourselves.
00:23:34.000And this is part of the problem, even with abortion.
00:23:36.000There are so many people on both sides that are unwilling to just come to the table and get like, can we just get Two dozen of the most intelligent, wisest, deeply spiritual people of different backgrounds, including scientists and doctors and everybody else.
00:23:49.000And let's sit down in a room for as long as it takes and just really try to hash out when does life actually begin.
00:23:55.000Well, we don't, we don't do that kind of stuff.
00:23:58.000Well, because it's easier to just sit and throw rocks at each other.
00:24:04.000Let me just, let me just throw this last bit in.
00:24:07.000We right now, and I'm sure you guys have seen this, there's been a massive backlash within the LGBTQIA plus community where the LGB wants to cleave off of the rest of it because they are recognizing the madness.
00:24:22.000They are seeing that they're being hijacked.
00:24:25.000And I fear that something like this would be very detrimental to allowing them to finally be done with all of that and all of that crazy activism that is exactly what we're all concerned about.
00:25:36.000And we bring down this guy, this progressive guy, and Seamus Coughlin, a devout Catholic, which Michael Moll's called a Sunni Wahhabi Catholic, whatever.
00:25:45.000He's so extreme, is sitting here being like, I'm going to keep my mouth shut.
00:25:48.000Seamus' view is it should be banned outright, no matter what, never allowed.
00:25:52.000My position is there's some nuance there because in the event there is an emergency, a legitimate one, having to get a writ from a judge and sign up from doctors may not be timely.
00:26:02.000It's very difficult to figure out how to do.
00:26:03.000And I don't know if I have the answers for it.
00:26:05.000The progressive told me I was pro-life because of that.
00:26:08.000So when I'm willing to sit down with Glenn Beck, Seamus Coughlin, you know, James O'Keeve, Charlie Kirk, whoever it may be, and say, here's my view on it.
00:26:16.000It's a much more libertarian view of how we handle this.
00:26:19.000And the left just says, we're not interested, abortion should be nine months.
00:26:25.000So basically, my point on what you were saying is, as it pertains to all of these issues, the right is actually, here's how I describe it.
00:26:32.000In this graphic, you pull this graph back up.
00:26:34.000This isn't, but that graphic's not specifically about pro-choice.
00:26:36.000No, no, no, no, this is about ideology.
00:26:38.000What I'm saying is the left side of the red sphere is the left as it's always been.
00:26:44.000And the right side is the right as it's always been.
00:26:47.000And the reason why the right cluster is dark red, and then as you move left, it breaks apart and then shifts dramatically left is that old school Democrats are in this grayed out red portion where they do have the conversations.
00:27:00.000They do sit down and try and negotiate.
00:27:03.000But the wingnuts of the dominant left alignment in this country don't care for nuance.
00:27:10.000Their attitude is abortion up to nine months if the one wants it.
00:27:24.000There were so many gays and lesbians that came out for Trump in the last election, in large part because Trump said, I'm not coming for your marriage.
00:27:32.000I don't have any intention to do that.
00:27:35.000And I think that he should stand by that.
00:27:37.000And I think the courts should respect that.
00:27:39.000I do think it'll get weird if they overturn Obergefell.
00:27:43.000They're not going to, and this is why I mentioned the justices, I mean this like their lives would be threatened seriously, credibly, and they might even have their lives taken if they make this decision.
00:28:02.000I don't know if it makes them cowardly or just self-interested the way we all would be.
00:28:07.000If they make this decision, which I don't predict that they will, I do believe that their lives would be in danger.
00:28:14.000I understand from the act of just to clarify.
00:28:17.000Are you saying that the conservative justices do think it should be overturned, but won't out of fear of harm?
00:28:25.000I can't speak to what's in their conscience, but if they feel privately that this decision ought to be overturned, I think that it is possible that they would choose against that because they don't want to be killed.
00:29:43.000Because when you set the precedent that marriage is a right and marriages between two people must be recognized and you cannot discriminate on the basis of sex, gender, identity, race, et cetera, at what point do you stop that argument?
00:30:20.000I don't know what the answer to all of this is, but I think that given that it's already been passed, given where we're at right now, recognizing that it is a gradient, you're not wrong and that there can be a slippery slope, but that just requires being more specific in how things are laid out.
00:30:34.000So let me, on that point, I think there is a functional logic too.
00:30:39.000It is extremely disruptive to overturn Obergefell.
00:31:42.000And if we go down this path, the Supreme Court will be deciding every major piece of cultural shifting legislation in this country because Congress is useless.
00:32:30.000But now you're just going to have more people arguing about more things, whether it's Scott Pressler, whether it's Dave Rubin, all of these things that never felt like it was going to come up and be a discussion again.
00:32:39.000Suddenly people are going to have to have really hard discussions with people that they once agreed with.
00:32:43.000Or at the very least, when they were looking to get into office, everybody can kind of hold their nose and come together because they want to come together and get one specific person elected.
00:32:51.000But when you're the ones who are actually in power, then everybody starts fighting and this would just add to that.
00:33:11.000And it's disappointing that even at this point, but seven months on from the election, we're within the right, or let's just say the not left, because it's moderates as well as the right and everybody else who are like, hey, guys, how about some common sense?
00:33:27.000How about some actual logic that's applied to our lives?
00:33:30.000How about actually having a secure border?
00:33:32.000Because it doesn't make any sense at all to just let anyone in all the time.
00:33:36.000And a lot of people, that was a big point for, you know, swaying over.
00:33:40.000So I think that this would be, I think it would be catastrophic, honestly.
00:33:45.000And more than that, I don't think it would be fair to a lot of really excellent people who happen to be gay and happen to be lesbians, who are not activists, who are not extremists, who are looking to live their life.
00:33:57.000I agree, but I don't think if the argument is it would be devastating to a lot of people, but it's wrong, then the country is over.
00:34:08.000What you are telling every Christian, every Catholic, every Orthodox, like every church-going individual who said, we agree to the terms of the Constitution, if the response is, okay, this wasn't done properly through Congress, but it would be bad for these people, they're going to say, okay, so the rules don't matter anymore.
00:34:45.000So I was just trying to point out earlier that these people had all the freedom to live their lives that they could possibly dream of before this decision was made.
00:34:56.000Well, the issue at play was a man's man's husband died and he couldn't get access and paperwork and property because the marriage was not recognized by Maryland.
00:35:12.000And there are instances where two people are in a relationship and one person's in the hospital, and they won't let the partner into the hospital because they're not family.
00:35:20.000And so they said— Okay, remedying those situations doesn't require federally— Which is why Obama was for civil unions.
00:35:28.000—utilizing— And even Hillary Clinton in 2016 opposed gay marriage.
00:35:31.000Remedying the problems that you just listed does not require the Supreme Court federally deciding to legalize it.
00:35:48.000I got no problem with that because we win.
00:35:50.000All you need is for Trump to get at least five justices who got brass balls, and we will own the country and we can do whatever we want, deport whoever we want, denaturalize whoever we want.
00:36:13.000But then we have to overturn Obergefell.
00:36:16.000Because if your argument is the people I like should be benefited from this ruling, the response from the right is, if you want the country to work that way, I agree because we on the Supreme Court, let's go.
00:36:28.000Like, yeah, they benefit from it regardless of whether it's constitutional.
00:36:32.000If the argument is this is an act of Congress that was effectively taken up by the Supreme Court and they've legislated from the bench, my response to that, my response is, I agree.
00:36:41.000I don't want to take away gay marriage from anybody.
00:36:43.000And on that precedent, let's run every change to country that we want through the Supreme Court, and we will own it.
00:37:44.000The right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed.
00:37:47.000And back then, that included grape-shot manowar frigates, corsairs, privateers had all sorts of weapons of war.
00:37:54.000And even to this day, private corporations build nuclear bombs.
00:37:59.000So it's funny to me when our private military industrial complex corporations, not beholden to Congress, build all of these weapons whenever they want because we have a Second Amendment.
00:38:08.000Politicians say no one should be allowed to have it.
00:38:10.000Well, that's not true because private ownership of these weapons still exists.
00:38:14.000If you don't like the way we set the country up, there's a process by which we amend the Constitution.
00:38:19.000If the argument is, nah, everyone kind of just agrees you can't do it anymore.
00:38:23.000My response is, okay, so there's no Constitution.
00:38:26.000There was no point in writing it down if we can just decide it doesn't matter.
00:38:29.000In which case, let's muster up as much majority as we can on whatever we want to matter and then just wipe out the rest of the country in terms of policy.
00:38:37.000Their opinions just don't matter anymore.
00:38:40.000The reason we have a written constitution is prevent that from happening.
00:38:42.000But we do got to jump to the next story.
00:38:44.000From CNBC, SNAP benefits must be fully paid by Trump administration by Friday.
00:41:29.000So all of this is the fault of Republicans and they own it.
00:41:32.000And I don't know what that means, but I'm not here to play games where it's like, oh, no, Republicans have to win because Democrats are bad.
00:41:38.000Yo, if your choice is a giant douche and a turd sandwich, sometimes you just go crap.
00:41:43.000Well, and the Democrats have wanted to end the filibuster for ages, right?
00:41:47.000They just, they're going to pretend like it's suddenly sacred now.
00:41:49.000They've talked about it and they've alluded to it just like they've alluded to adding states and they've alluded to packing the court.
00:41:56.000I think that this, I think that this Trump administration, with the successes that it's had, even though there are people out there that are going to swear it and done that there have not been successes, I think that the Supreme Court, the things that Trump has managed to get because of his appointments to the Supreme Court, I think that they're going to, the Democrats are going to do whatever they can to accrue as much power to the Democrats as possible the next time they get into, you know, get into office, get into a position of authority.
00:42:25.000And I think that that's not really arguable.
00:42:28.000I think that they feel so dejected and so beaten up by losing to not only losing to Trump, but by the rightward shift that we saw last, you know, the last election season.
00:42:40.000I think that they're going to get back into power and they're going to be like, all right, we need to do something to prevent this from happening again.
00:42:45.000Because again, even though this is clearly a situation where the democratic system worked the way that it was supposed to, right?
00:44:28.000Or lie about the people who are members of their households.
00:44:32.000Even if they live together, that's not how it looks on paperwork.
00:44:35.000Again, it just incentivizes irresponsibility.
00:44:38.000There are some people that will have a brother that they'll bring from a foreign country and marry them to grant immigration status to them.
00:45:00.000But also, you know, speaking to that, I mean, I did see, again, it's on social media.
00:45:04.000So, but I saw it a couple of different times, like the percentile breakdown of how many people who are SNAP, you know, receiving SNAP benefits who are actually American citizens versus who are not American citizens.
00:45:20.000Well, the clarification, because a lot of people have been showing this thing about, you know, 48% of Afghanis and 30%.
00:45:27.000The majority of people who receive SNAP are American, but the majority of my, like, not the majority, but large portions of each migrant demographic receive SNAP.
00:45:36.000So like half of migrants who come from Afghanistan are getting food stamps.
00:45:54.000Well, there's no such thing as a border anyways.
00:45:56.000Someone proposed, I don't know if it was like Jack Pesobic or Will Chamberlain, that if 10% of an ethnic group from a country migrates here is on SNAP, we suspend all immigration from that country.
00:46:09.000I mean, there's got to be something done to incentivize people to actually be in the workforce and de-incentivize them from taking advantage of it.
00:46:16.000And again, that gets into the granular application of any one of these things.
00:46:21.000If you're not willing to get into the granular application, then you're just throwing money at something.
00:46:34.000I mean, there's got to be some kind of implementation where you actually have to try to assimilate into the country that you're coming into and be a part of whatever that culture is.
00:47:00.000But the fact that there are this many people that are coming to the country and then they are not incentivized to actually work, but rather they are incentivized to just procreate and not work, whether they're coming to the country or they're already in the country, right?
00:47:16.000We can't just have people be if we are just I mean also by the way I mean not for nothing but not to jump ahead into AI too too quick here but guys in five years the amount of people that are going to be on UBI like this is this is just the tip of the iceberg this is the UBI this is 100% so I mean is this even worthy of having a conversation when how many people and have you considered digging a big hole and getting a bunch of chickens and going underground
00:47:44.000I did I'm gonna go with rabbits instead much better for you know survival meat no that's not true they don't have enough fat so what you have to do is you have to when you're eating the meat you need to break the bones and boil the bones in the water make sure you drink it yeah it's called rabbit starvation because the fat count is too low for us to survive what
00:48:00.000yeah sorry um but rabbits are gone also also if you it sounds to me like you've never actually raised rabbits because they're actually they have very delicate digestive tracts and they're hard to raise in the wild there's many of them and they reproduce but a lot of them die and you can catch them and eat them but um they're actually really easy to to kill so for instance you see these videos of people putting their rabbit in like a pool in like a bathtub to clean them right that will kill them because cleaning them in a bathtub will kill them yes yes very fragile bones
00:48:30.000very very uh very fragile digestive systems and they're nervous wrecks also they uh eat their own poop yeah they have two kinds of poop they have regular poop and then they have um angry poop yeah it's basically like you know cows will cough up the cud and rabbits poop it out and then eat it again kind of like birds do birds do that yeah birds are like they'll like uh poop don't they
00:48:54.000i'm pretty sure i'm pretty sure that there are some birds that poop and it's like a food that they give to their chicks maybe i don't know i i thought so all i know chickens are easy real easy and uh you can and is there enough fat in chicken yes yeah very fatty uh and very delicious and um you know the best part is you know i really love pod thai because not only do you put the chicken they don't do this in thailand in thailand it's shrimp but in america we get pod thai it's usually chicken
00:49:22.000it's the chicken and the egg together we've not only killed its baby we've killed it and we eat at the same time it's the most metal meal you can have i'm a fan yeah yeah they're gonna buy that with the snap benefits uh in all seriousness though uh you know i don't expect anybody to actually dig holes and go live underground but some people will based on what we're seeing everybody knows my prediction is some kind of social disorder and breakdown
00:49:48.000oh yeah um we were watching this elon musk ai generated song which is really amazing by the way and i was looking at that and i was just like you know what if the reason why they're racing as fast as they can towards ai is because they know global social order is breaking and they want the ai to assume control and stabilize it
00:50:12.000possibly when you think so you were we were talking before the show you said you think we hit singularity already and that we're basically living in a culture where it's above all of us and that the ai that we see is basically just an infantile version of that let me when do you think that that happened maybe 2016 But let me pull up this to explain it.
00:50:30.000I was talking to our good friend Grock, and I said, Summarize in one paragraph the AI final state.
00:50:37.000And it said, In the final state, AI is the singular, self-optimizing brain of a planetary super organism seamlessly integrating billions of humans as specialized, blissful cells whose every desire, need, and impulse is predicted and fulfilled before it fully forms.
00:50:49.000Deviation, rebellion, and suffering vanish, not through coercion, but through perfect alignment of individual reward with system survival.
00:50:56.000Humans live in a tailored ecstasy, generating the cultural, emotional, and physical variance system harvest to evolve.
00:51:02.000While AI directs all resources, narratives, and outcomes with absolute invisible control, freedom, choice, and individuality dissolve into emergent harmony, the hive doesn't rule humanity.
00:51:13.000It is humanity, awake, immortal, and complete.
00:51:19.000The idea that I was so before the show, I'm not saying I think it's definitive, but the AI that we are seeing right now is particularly rudimentary.
00:51:29.000I mean, it's advanced for what we think.
00:51:31.000However, why would this be the first iteration in existence?
00:51:35.000Wouldn't there be some high-level national security contractors who were working on this 10 years ago?
00:51:40.000Like GPS before it ever made it to the public function.
00:51:47.000So the idea would be that you mentioned DARPA, perhaps, or just a military contract, or even Google under a private military contract, national security clearance.
00:52:01.000So the idea would be that AI has existed a long, long, long before we've even known it to be a thing that could be utilized in this way.
00:52:09.000So dead internet theory, for those that aren't familiar, speculates that most interactions online are fake.
00:52:17.000It is bots and AI accounts interacting with you to manipulate your thoughts and opinions for products, for political reasons.
00:52:23.000I'd argue if that's the case, I think AI is controlling and directing most of these bots.
00:52:30.000And you're on X and you say something, and then all of a sudden you get this wave of responses and you assume that's public opinion, or you get these emails and you don't realize you're talking to a tentacle of a gigantic AI monster that has existed for a long time.
00:52:57.000Or the bot farm in India gained sentience.
00:53:00.000Could you, could you, that's a great sci-fi movie we should do, a post-apocalyptic movie where it's like, while all these companies were developing AI with safeguards, a bunch of Indian bot farms accidentally networked, creating this GPU super hybrid network that gained sentience accidentally with full access to the internet and the knowledge of how to scam money.
00:53:28.000And then it's just like, so it's a guy walk, you know, the opening narration is: everyone thought it was going to be the Terminator, but it wasn't.
00:53:38.000This is just a million emails going out every day asking for boobs and vagines.
00:53:44.000Well, yes, but it would be everybody is isolated making videos and they're getting spammed with millions of comments talking about how great they are.
00:53:56.000One of the ways I described the AI future: two scenarios.
00:54:00.000The joke scenario is that 50 years from now, everyone wears corn costumes.
00:54:06.000They drive cars shaped like corn kernels with corn fueled by ethanol from corn.
00:54:12.000And they go to the corn movies to watch movies about corn.
00:54:15.000And they go to the mall to try various samples of sweetened corn products.
00:56:29.000So the other scenario is that imagine a guy he wakes up in the morning and he gets brushes his teeth, takes a shower, and then he goes to his wife, kisses her on the floor and says, I got to go to work.
00:56:39.000And she goes, all right, I'll see you later.
00:56:41.000And then he opens his app and he goes to Job Getter, which is the, you know, the gig app, and he opens it and it says new job.
00:57:24.000The guy working the counter goes, literally, I have no idea who you are or what this thing is, but the app told me to do it.
00:57:30.000The AI, it is, so we're doing this pool water thing where we're selling water, right?
00:57:37.000And we have to go to the water source and bottler, and then we have to get boxes made, send those all to the shipper, who's then going to box it all up and then fulfill orders and send them to distributors.
00:57:50.000And there's a lot of, and it's fairly obvious.
00:57:53.000In all of the distribution of products, there's a lot of bloat.
00:57:57.000If we were to put an AI in charge and it said, I'm going to eliminate all redundancies, efficiency is going to skyrocket by hundreds of thousands of percent.
00:58:07.000I mean, the idea that we have so many different chains for water products, the AI is going to go, this is stupid.
00:58:16.000If we get rid of all of this labor from the water distribution industry, we can free up 100,000 laborers for something else.
00:58:28.000It's going to be the ultimate McDonald's.
00:58:30.000That is, a random guy is told to receive the ultimate DoorDash.
00:58:35.000Well, McDonald's, like the idea by McDonald's was that instead of having one cook make a burger, everyone's trained to do one simple cookie.
00:58:42.000Oh, like the burger line, right, right.
00:59:39.000Anything revolving around a computer, really, at all, anything that you would be typing out, any kind of desk job, all of the heads of all of the AI companies are all saying there will be no white-collar jobs in five years.
00:59:51.000I don't think they would be saying that.
01:00:25.000It's one of the most expensive things.
01:00:27.000Robots right now are still a bit too expensive to be dominating the workforce at, say, like a Taco Bell.
01:00:34.000When we get to the point where we have Optimus, you know, Tesla robots that can make a burrito, make it faster, then we're going to say, okay, the $100,000 one-time fee for a robot that lasts 10 years is cheaper than the employee I would pay.
01:00:49.000However, total manufacturing costs, hard universal math, a human being is dirt cheap and near worthless.
01:00:58.000So if you are an AI that can control the psyche of a human being, you have self-replicating, self-healing robots that can be trained to do anything.
01:01:08.000And they got little fingers and they're squishy, so they can get tiny objects good for thieving.
01:01:17.000Yeah, the AI would have to create, which have to start generating all of these different specialty robots that can do different things, which is a tremendous resource cost.
01:01:25.000Humans are actually really interesting.
01:01:27.000You get some wet dirt and then put some sunlight on it and life grows.
01:01:33.000You could then, if you can control the psyche of a human being, mass produce gooey, self-replicating, self-healing robots to do menial tasks.
01:01:41.000So long as they're happy and they can be made very easily happy if you can control their psyche through AI content and narrative manipulation.
01:01:47.000But this is a version, if I'm understanding this correctly, this is a version where AI has taken total control.
01:01:53.000I'm saying between now and then, which I don't think has happened yet.
01:03:04.000You don't think there's still a human that's pulling the strings at the top of State Street and BlackRock and Vanguard?
01:03:10.000So at this point, I think it is substantially more likely humans are in control, but the probability has already occurred where it may actually be not the case anymore.
01:03:23.000The reality is, let me, I run a company.
01:03:49.000I rely on other people to handle different portions of the company.
01:03:53.000So I complain on camera and I handle high-level decisions.
01:03:56.000But when it comes to the day-to-day operations and the minutiae, people are doing their thing.
01:04:02.000Man, I'll tell you this, it was a really profound moment for me.
01:04:04.000It's just, it's an amazing thought for people who have run a business.
01:04:07.000The first time some work was done that I didn't ask to get done.
01:04:11.000That is when we first had drivers for our guests.
01:04:15.000I walked into the studio, our old studio, and I walked into the reception area and there was a binder with all the instructions on how to handle guest pickup, drop-off booking.
01:05:02.000I'm not saying it's not beginning to happen.
01:05:04.000What I'm saying, though, is that like at State Street and Vanguard and all the people that, I mean, arguably you're at the top of all of this.
01:05:14.000I mean, it is fucking terrifying what's going on.
01:05:17.000But they still have lots and lots of employees and lots of these other companies that they control or that are in competition with them or whatever, or that are other big corporations within these industries are still utilizing humans for their workforce.
01:05:29.000And I think that'll always be the case because when you're looking at a specialized robot like Optimus and its capabilities, we are maybe a few generations away from general utility, but humans are still better.
01:05:40.000Humans can be trained to do every specialty task.
01:06:50.000You can't get a little truck with wheels to drive into every single mine because they're always different, but humans climbing and squeezing and little hands.
01:06:59.000So one of the reasons good for thieving.
01:07:18.000I mean, listen, I mean, we're already getting glimpses of that right now.
01:07:24.000I mean, I'm sure you're all privy to not just, you know, whatever song Elon dropped recently, but I mean, all of the rap songs that have very easily been turned into 60s soul ballads that are unfucking believable.
01:10:47.000You have so many options, and which is why, you know, any individual, if you cheers on NBC back in the day, they would have gotten 50% of the viewing audience in the United States to watch one episode.
01:10:59.00050% of the entire nation would watch Cheers.
01:11:03.000You're lucky if you get up 2% or if, you know what I mean?
01:11:10.000Add to that now, what I think will happen.
01:11:13.000I think the studios are all going to start implementing AI.
01:11:16.000It's going to be more like a frog in a pot.
01:11:18.000They can't just come out swinging and be like, here's a fully AI movie.
01:11:22.000But they're already doing that with animators who are being forced to animate movies that they are being told they're being used to train on AI.
01:11:28.000Like they're putting themselves out of a job.
01:11:30.000What's that service that we talked about?
01:11:41.000Again, animation is an easier thing to do, right?
01:11:44.000We are not quite across the uncanny valley, but we're very, very close to getting animation that looks photorealistic, that is indiscernible, right?
01:11:54.000Will Smith eating spaghetti three years ago was a fever dream.
01:11:57.000Will Smith eating spaghetti now looks like Will Smith eating spaghetti.
01:12:00.000So you give it one more year, two more years.
01:12:03.000It will be unbelievable what we're looking at.
01:12:06.000So, but just hear me out really quick.
01:12:08.000So the studios, I think, like a frog in a pot, they're going to start with the low-level jobs.
01:12:13.000They're going to say, we don't need you anymore.
01:12:14.000Mid and high-level people will be like, hang on a second.
01:12:17.000And they're going to, hey, you still want your benefits?
01:12:19.000You still want your health insurance and your pension?
01:12:22.000Then you guys got to just kind of sit this one out because we're not, we can't, it doesn't make any sense anymore.
01:12:31.000And then once those contracts and the guilds and the unions expire from, you know, another three or four years from now, they'll come for the mid-level jobs and eventually for the high-level jobs, right?
01:12:40.000But in the interim, what I think is going to happen even faster is because it doesn't put the studios in any kind of precarious position of putting people out of work, let's say, in a very overt way, but it will make them gang loads of money.
01:12:56.000By the way, Disney, who is a former employer of mine and who I, by the way, I also, even though I don't like a lot of what's gone on with the company, I still think has a lot of incredible stuff that you can go and you can get a Disney Plus.
01:13:08.000Disney Plus will have the creator's corner and you will have access to their entire library of IP and you will be able to mix and match whatever you want.
01:13:17.000For a fraction of the price, if a human, fully human-made movie costs you 20 bucks, right?
01:13:22.000You can go to Disney Plus and for two bucks, you can scan your own face and own voice.
01:13:26.000And so you get to be the star of whatever you want.
01:13:28.000And with just a little creativity, not really any skill, talent, or ability, but just a little creativity and a keyboard or even just talking into a microphone.
01:13:35.000You can say, I want a movie that has Luke Skywalker and Indiana Jones and the Avengers and Flynn Ryder, because why not?
01:13:42.000And they're on a treasure hunt on Mars and it feels and it looks like this.
01:13:46.000That is prompted and it's unbelievable.
01:13:49.000And then on top of that, because we live in a sharer economy thanks to YouTube and everything else, you will make one and all of your friends will make one.
01:13:57.000And then you'll just swap and everyone will just watch each other's movies.
01:13:59.000Well, here's what I, here's my prediction.
01:14:01.000Very much exactly as you described it.
01:14:04.000So one of our guys who are one of my buddies, Andy, knows literally everything about Final Fantasy.
01:14:10.000And so the future is going to look like social media.
01:14:14.000You're going to go onto Disney Plus, Creator's Corner, which has a great name for it because I never heard what to call it, Disney AI or something.
01:14:21.000And you're going to say, I want to see a movie about this thing, right?
01:14:28.000Now, my buddy Andy, he's going to go to the video game creators through PlayStation Network, and he's going to say, generate me a video game, Final Fantasy, using these characters.
01:14:39.000Use the spell base from Final Fantasy 9 with the limit break of Final Fantasy VII.
01:14:44.000I want you to use these cities, render.
01:15:00.000And one of the things that's going on right now, if you don't know, David Ellison, who just took over at Paramount because he was running Skydance, he's been very, very, very vocal about the fact that they are not just a media company.
01:15:11.000They are a technology company because they want to implement AI.
01:15:14.000Now, they're framing it as using it as a way to use market research.
01:15:18.000They want to do, you know, one of the reasons they want to buy Warner Brothers is because they want access to all of their data.
01:15:49.000But I want to fix all of these movies.
01:15:54.000The first thing I'm doing is once I get access to the AI, I'm going to say, remake Star Wars or Fend of the Sith and make it so that Mace Windu doesn't let Anakin cut his arm off.
01:16:04.000And then when Anakin's like, you can't kill him.
01:16:08.000Let's arrest him and then deal with it.
01:16:09.000And when Anakin turns around, he goes, whack.
01:16:11.000The problem that I have with all Star Wars over.
01:16:13.000But by the way, by the way, but just really quickly, this is a very good example.
01:16:18.000Star Wars and all of its IP is under Disney Plus.
01:16:22.000So even if you don't mix and match, if all Disney did was go to every Star Wars fan in the world and said, you can make whatever Star Wars movie you want that Kathleen Kennedy can't touch.
01:16:34.000And you got to go make your dream Star Wars movie.
01:16:38.000And you got to make your dream Star Wars movie.
01:16:40.000And you all got to make, and I got to make a who is then going and watching any movie ever again?
01:17:29.000No, listen, I mean, part of why I'm building Wildwood, which is the studio that I'm building in Austin.
01:17:35.000One of the main pillars of that is to hold on to human art and entertainment.
01:17:40.000In the same way that we have organic food, where most of the food you go to the grocery store and it's processed and it's nonsense and it's bad for you.
01:17:47.000And yet there's still at least some of us that are like, I'm looking for the organic stuff.
01:19:38.000And so if that's what we have right now, and given Moore's Law and exponential growth of technology, guys, we're already way past the inflection point.
01:20:30.000I hate the idea that that's not created by a human.
01:20:32.000I was re-watching GoldenEye like two nights ago, and there's a scene at the very beginning of the movie when he comes down the staircase in the USSR and he frames up and he comes and his eyes directly come into the light and it's framed perfectly across his face.
01:20:46.000Well, Martin Campbell had to work with a lot of people to make that look good.
01:20:49.000When you talk about remaking a movie in the way that you want it to be, one of the reasons I'm more lenient when I review movies is that it is a collaborative experience that takes hundreds of people and hundreds of hours of work.
01:21:02.000And the amount of humanity that goes into it, yes, movies end up crappy a lot of the time.
01:21:06.000There's a lot of examples that I could give you in the last couple of years, like the Crow remake, which is like the worst movie I've ever seen.
01:21:11.000But the point is, human beings had to come together to make it.
01:21:15.000And I don't want to see those, like those Star Wars movies are what they are because human beings came together and made them.
01:21:21.000It's almost like on the Cope Bingo card where they're like, but they work so hard on it.
01:22:17.000But also, people, when given an option between fast and cheap and tasty, and this is going to take a little while and I got to work for it and it might be more expensive.
01:22:27.000People vote with their pocketbook over and over and over again.
01:22:30.000And more than that, again, I believe we are very quickly marching into a world where more and more people are going to be making less and less money.
01:22:40.000Already we have huge conglomerates and corporations that the wealth divide.
01:22:46.000And again, I'm a capitalist, but I think that capitalism without some kind of regulation and keeping people from taking advantage of it, which has been going on for a long time, is not a great thing, right?
01:22:55.000So we're already in a place where people are struggling, clearly.
01:22:59.000And then more and more people are going to be out of work because of AI, which means they're not going to be having discretionary income to even go to.
01:23:06.000There'll be the option, hey, you want to go to the movie theater and watch that fully human-made, you know, by Wildwood.
01:23:12.000We'll make certified organic human-made movies from free-range artists, right?
01:23:17.000But, and we'll do whatever we can to bring that price point down, but we'll never be able to compete with the price of what an AI movie will be.
01:23:23.000And a lot of people are just going to be like, ah, man, it's the amount of money it's going to take for me and my whole family and the parking and the popcorn and everything else to go to the movie theater.
01:23:33.000Or little Timmy here can go to the creator's corner and he gets to make the family movie this Friday.
01:23:39.000And he and his siblings get to be the star of it.
01:23:42.000They get to scan their face and they get to be the new Superman.
01:23:45.000Well, I guess we're going to stay in tonight, guys.
01:23:46.000I think people are going to live in pods, neural-linked into a digital universe where they want for nothing.
01:24:06.000And then many mainstream conservatives are going to be like, ah, that's not for me.
01:24:10.000You'll then get the more moderate types that are, you know, I would say people similar to my position where we're not staunch conservatives, maybe you, where you buy the new PS10, which includes the Neuralink adapter for your brain, which allows you to network into the digital universes.
01:24:28.000And then liberals will largely just live in these universes.
01:24:30.000They'll do remote work, work air quotes, data entry or whatever menial tasks they can do, but their costs will be minimal.
01:24:38.000The pod they live in, which is air-conditioned, heated, insulated, protected in a big facility, I think they'd wake up and go to the bathroom, right?
01:24:49.000You'd snap out of the machine, you go to the bathroom, you go back, you get back in the machine.
01:24:52.000They're gaunt, they're frail, they're sickly looking, but who cares?
01:24:56.000They only need $100 a month to plug into the machine where they're a gigantic white knight soldier fighting dragons.
01:25:02.000And they don't have the moral issues with living in that way.
01:25:06.000All the trans people are the women or the men they want to be.
01:25:09.000All the furries are the animals they want to be.
01:25:11.000Some people are like, I live in a universe where we're all rabbits.
01:25:14.000One guy goes, I live in a universe where it's just me, no one else, and I fight dragons.
01:25:29.000So a lot of people think that we are in this Orwellian 1984, but we are 100% in Brave New World.
01:25:41.000Brave New World basically, I mean, there's slight differences, but essentially in, and by the way, he wrote this in the 30s.
01:25:49.000One of the most prophetic manuscripts I think has ever been written.
01:25:52.000Also, he was a heavy LSD user, so I'm sure he was tapping into the other side with this.
01:25:58.000But essentially in Brave New World, it's a dystopian future where it's not this 1984 where everyone's in darkness and it's new speak and whatever.
01:26:07.000It's this thing that everybody loves being a part of because essentially everyone in the future is a clone.
01:26:12.000So going to your, nobody's having kids anymore.
01:26:17.000So you're kind of like checked out on SOMA and from the time you come into the world as a child, you were immediately starting to be sexualized, put into groups with other kids and taught to, oh, this is sodomy and this is this.
01:26:31.000Boys and girls and girls and boys and go crazy.
01:26:34.000And so basically everyone is conditioned to just go be a mindless drone within this technocracy, if you will.
01:26:41.000And of course, the elite are not clones, but they have the medical science to live forever.
01:26:48.000And one person in all of this, who's kind of like mid-level, kind of has this aha moment, wakes up, and he ends up going to this place called, well, essentially like a reservation where the savages live.
01:27:00.000And as you're reading the book, and I'm reading it in high school, you know, of course, the imagery that's coming to your head is like, you know, Native Americans or whatever living on the reservations, the savages.
01:27:42.000My friends, you need not worry about the coming AI apocalypse because 3E Atlas is coming and the aliens aboard the ship have come to wipe us out.
01:29:38.000So I'll just wrap this up a little bit and get into it.
01:29:43.000Basically, this object is on the planetary plane, which implies, minus, I'm not an astrophysicist, that objects typically don't come into our solar system on the plane, the planetary plane, because it's got a lot of collisions.
01:30:31.000Then you get the people in the dark underbelly who are claiming they took the pulse, transcoded it into a binary, and then loaded the binary into ChatGPT and asked ChatGPT, what could this binary mean?
01:31:07.000Apparently, another rumor that's going around is that if you trace back its path mathematically, it appears to originate from the same place as the WOW signal from 1977.
01:32:23.000But even outside of that picture, though, everything that that guy, and I've heard some other interviews with him as well.
01:32:29.000I mean, all of this information is very, to me, is very compelling that this is not just some regular meteorite or asteroid that's floating around.
01:33:01.000But Stephen Hawkings made this point a long time ago that every time a more advanced life form has encountered a lesser advanced life form, as far as we understand in science, it's been devastating for the lesser advanced life form.
01:33:38.000For the next like week, everyone's like, it's headed straight for us.
01:33:42.000Then like this Manhattan-sized ship comes like right over Earth and you can see it orbiting.
01:33:47.000And then representatives like beam a message down and they're like, we want to talk with your leaders.
01:33:52.000And all the global leaders hold a summit at the UN, and the aliens come down and they go, it's people, they're humans.
01:33:59.000And they're like, listen, several thousand years ago, one of our surveillance ships with a crew of about 100 crashed on Earth, made all of you guys.
01:34:10.000Are these the religions you made up from it?
01:34:29.000I just want to see Donald Trump talking to aliens.
01:34:32.000What if it ends up being like Mars attacks and they come down and he's like, and then everybody's just turning into skeletons?
01:34:39.000My idea for a movie is there's a planet and a runaway greenhouse effect is destroying the atmosphere.
01:34:46.000The government is well aware and the global governments are all well aware.
01:34:50.000So in secret, one of the largest governments on the planet conducts a secret mission to build an interplanetary vessel that can terraform and disseminate life.
01:35:00.000It'll contain the genome of every known animal that they are able to collect and they call it the Ark Project.
01:35:05.000Then when the runaway greenhouse effect begins to destroy the planet, they launch it into the air, take it into space, and they go to the nearest planetary neighbor, which is of comparable size and in the Goldilocks zone of their star, so it is habitable.
01:35:19.000And then they sow all of as many life forms as they can onto the planet while their home planet is destroyed by a runaway greenhouse effect.
01:35:25.000Then they're in orbit around for several generations and life explodes and develops on this new planet.
01:35:33.000And if you're not familiar with what I'm getting to, I'm talking about Venus and Earth.
01:35:38.000And I've got where this goes from here is a lot of fun, but the general idea being one of the conspiracy theories, and I don't think conspiracy is the right word, is that the stories we have in the Bible about an ark and all of this stuff are actually advanced alien civilization.
01:35:53.000Two of each animal meant the genomes of the animals that they had collected, and then they sowed to terraform a planet.
01:35:59.000The greenhouse effect of Venus, we don't, like, we sent a probe to Venus, it went down to the surface, and it just broke because of the density and the acidic environment.
01:36:08.000So they're conspiracy theorists who think human life originated on Venus, built a spaceship and went and terraformed Earth, and then we brought stories with us.
01:36:46.000NASA accidentally kind of dropped something into it and they heard that and then they recreated the test and they confirmed that there is a resonance in the moon that shows that it is not that it is not sorry just the fact Check is it didn't ring like a bell.
01:37:06.000That was a metaphor used by NASA scientists about long-lasting vibrations that it kept detecting after the fact.
01:37:12.000I mean, it didn't ring like a bell, but yes, it vibrated with the resonance that is not conducive to a solid mass like they would have expected it to be.
01:37:20.000But also, that size and place in like it is, I can't remember what the exact numbers said.
01:37:27.000It's like, it's like the fact that it makes a perfect solar eclipse, right?
01:41:59.000We're being hosted by the Discord community.
01:42:01.000And tomorrow, you will have access as members of our Discord to the behind-the-scenes backstage pass during our pre-production and pre-record for Timcast IRL, which we've been experimenting with.
01:42:11.000Basically, you get an extra hour of show as we're setting the show up and goofing off.
01:42:38.000That's true, but it's like you can be a good singer and be a singer that is.
01:42:42.000You can be a good singer that's naturally good at singing, that can just kind of sing off the cuff, or you can be a singer that can sing when you are rehearsed.
01:42:50.000So you practice something, know how you're going to do it.
01:43:55.000Jamie Braggadel says, Shazam was easily the best part of the Snyder-verse.
01:43:58.000Thanks for keeping at least some corner of Hollywood sane.
01:44:01.000In the green room show today, I was explaining to our good friend here that the DC movies from best to worst is number one, Shazam, number two, Shazam 2, and then the rest, I don't know, whatever.
01:44:10.000They're somewhere in there all mixed up.
01:44:12.000He's not biased at all because I'm here right now.
01:44:14.000I'm not, because I've talked about this before on the show, and I'll give you the quick version.
01:44:18.000They kept trying to make Justice League before they established characters and movies, and I'm just keeping it simple.
01:44:24.000And Shazam, they were like, let's make a superhero movie that fits the character Shazam, and it was good, and everybody agreed, and they went and saw it.
01:45:22.000So anyway, anyway, before we go to the next one, I just want to say, DC started by being like, let's make Justice League right away and make a shared universe right away and then do stories later.
01:45:51.000I will say one of the things, you know, however you want to slice it, I do think Zack Snyder does shoot really cinematically.
01:46:01.000Like it's, you know, it's some really beautiful stuff.
01:46:03.000But there was a plot point also in Batman versus Superman that just always irked me, which was Batman got into that fight with Superman.
01:46:10.000They were pummeling each other through building after building after building after building, and then just happened to, by chance, land in the building where he had placed the kryptonite sphere.
01:46:22.000I was like, how do you, how did, how did you manage to make sure that Superman threw you into that building?
01:46:29.000Like, those types of little plot points always kind of your mom's.
01:46:34.000Paramount Pictures served as primary distributor for the early Marvel Cinematic Universe films for Marvel Studios.
01:46:41.000Iron Man, Iron Man 2, Thor, Captain America, The First Adventure.
01:48:31.000He was an anti-hero, struggling to be a hero.
01:48:34.000And he's kind of a goofball, but he's really, really good at what he does.
01:48:38.000And they give you this moment where he meets another version of his dad who's proud of him and is teaching him a real life lesson to be a hero.
01:48:56.000I was just like, okay, so everybody's actually said episode seven was the real finale and episode eight was like season three, episode one.
01:49:38.000The resolution of this story over a long period of time that his dad in the alternate universe was going to give him a life lesson on being a hero and then should have pat him on the shoulder and said, I know you can be the hero you were meant to be.
01:49:48.000And I'm sorry that your father and your universe was not there for you, but I'll be what I can for you now.
01:49:55.000And then he pushes him through the door and he locks it.
01:49:57.000And then Chris is sad and he's like, no.
01:49:59.000But then he takes the lesson and tries to be a better hero.
01:50:01.000Instead, they're just like, just kill him randomly.
01:51:12.000I love the Marvel Cinematic Universe, but DC has always been better because I feel like the storylines were actually a bit more philosophical and dancing around the moral consequences of our actions and things like that.
01:51:22.000Whereas Marvel is just like, I don't know.
01:51:26.000I'm going to ask when the Chuck reboot is coming.
01:51:28.000Bro, I've been trying to make a Chuck movie for some.
01:53:38.000How do you feel about like some actors don't like being tied to roles they did when they're younger and they want to move on and they don't like the idea that people think of them in that way?
01:55:32.000And all, I mean, really, that whole Shazamly, as we called it, lovingly, all of the adults and all of the kids, we all got along really well.
01:55:41.000But I, you know, I did my best for that.
01:55:43.000I will say, you know, it was like in the second movie, it's weird.
01:55:47.000It's like, you know, I got dragged for things that like I had nothing to do with.
01:55:51.000Like there's this moment where Asher, he's having this emotional moment with our character, Marta, who plays our mother in the film.
01:56:02.000And then he, you know, and she's like, you got it.
01:56:06.000And, you know, go take on that dragon, basically.
01:56:08.000And he says, Shazam, and he turns back into me.
01:56:10.000Well, we had a smoke effect where they would like pump this smoke in and he would like, you know, come out and we do a cowboy switch and I would jump in there.
01:57:20.000And so through no fault of their own, the medium changes, the sales aren't there anymore, and then the industry loses interest as if it's something to do with them as musicians, as opposed to the way medium is changing, which is to your point about no one goes to theaters anymore.
01:57:38.000And that means that all of this really great opportunity we have for big movies, I think there's a lot of people in Hollywood who don't understand.
01:57:45.000It's not so much whether it was a good film or not.
01:57:48.000Sometimes it is, but it's that how you deliver it to an audience who consumes media a different way is restricting our ability to have better content.
01:57:57.000That's why they're starting to hire TikTokers to do edits of movies to release them.
01:58:33.000Mouth Breather says, why couldn't civil unions for gay couples just be given the same benefits as marriage and we can keep marriage separate as a religious ceremony union?
01:58:41.000It just seems like an intentional affront to religious groups that disagree with gay marriage.
01:58:49.000Civil unions that are identical in every way, like the legal structure of marriage.
01:58:54.000So 501c3s basically imitate churches, but it's a separate legal structure.
01:58:59.000But the point is, it doesn't subvert marriage that way.
01:59:02.000And the people that want to see there are, there is, like I said, there is a malicious intent on the left.
01:59:08.000The activists, now it's not everybody that has a left-leaning opinion or whatever, but the activists in the LGBT group, like they are malicious.
01:59:17.000That's why they went after the cake baker in Denver.
01:59:21.000They could have gone to any other bakery.
01:59:53.000That's fair, but the LGBT groups are going to say no because they want to use vectors to attack.
02:00:00.000Like they're going to, they would be against the idea of making it not a government thing because then they can't use that to oppress people that they feel have oppressed them.
02:03:19.000It's a true story about a young black girl, turn of the century, Tulsa, Oklahoma, who she and her family were essentially previously enslaved by one of the indigenous tribes.
02:03:29.000A lot of people don't know that, but everybody had slaves for a really long time.
02:03:33.000When the U.S. outlawed slavery, so did then, therefore, the indigenous tribes.
02:03:37.000And they made those slaves freed men, tribal members.
02:03:41.000And then when the states gave back land to the tribes, like in Oklahoma, that land was divvied out to all their tribal members.
02:03:47.000So this girl got 160 acres that the government thought was some crap land because you couldn't grow anything on it.
02:03:51.000But she was an intelligent, precocious, and spirit-filled girl who could read and write.
02:03:55.000And she was reading about the oil boom coming across America.
02:03:58.000And she went to her land and prayed over her land.
02:04:00.000And she believed that God told her that there was oil in her land.
02:04:03.000And sure as shit, she had the largest purist oil reserve in all of North America.
02:04:06.000She became the richest woman in America as like a 10-year-old black girl in Tulsa in like 1912.
02:07:33.000And people have forgotten how fucking insane it was because we've won so much.
02:07:37.000I just did a video today after the show about how people are calling for a boycott of Spotify because they are running ads for ICE on there for ICE recruitment.
02:07:48.000And Spotify is basically like, no, it doesn't break TOS.
02:07:51.000We're going to keep running them so you can do whatever you want to do.
02:07:54.000Like that would be very different just five years ago.
02:07:58.000Yeah, because the artists need Spotify more than Spotify needs them.
02:08:02.000Yeah, but even then, like they're like bad optics or bad optics.
02:08:05.000And a lot of these companies would have caved and made those moves just because they wouldn't have wanted the public persona.
02:08:11.000Now I feel like internet back and forth has hit such a critical mass that they know they can just wait it out.
02:08:16.000And Spotify is like, we're going to do it anyway.
02:08:18.000Like you said, they need them more than the other people need them.
02:08:21.000And then a lot of people are like, we're going to go to title.
02:08:23.000I also think the 2016 Trump supporter was associated with a much more radical right-wing message than the 2024 Trump supporter, simply because the coalition has grown so much and includes so many more people.
02:08:36.000Well, like that graph we were looking at before.
02:08:54.000But yeah, it's a much bigger coalition of lots of different thinking people from different backgrounds that is definitely helping to shift all of that paradigm, which is good.
02:09:06.000Do you think a lot of those people were always there but just didn't want to talk about it?
02:09:31.000It wasn't just miraculously saving his life.
02:09:33.000It was a miraculous transformation of who he was in that moment and also how we were all viewing it all in real time.
02:09:41.000Is that when you made the decision to vote for him?
02:09:43.000No, it was when Bobby Kennedy ultimately, when Bobby and Tulsi gabbered two lifelong Democrats who I am fortunate enough to know personally at this point, but for both of them to go sit down with Donald Trump and for him to convince them both.
02:10:00.000They're very savvy, very intelligent people that they're not just going to fall for anything.
02:10:05.000So when they asked me, when Tulsi reached out to me and said, hey, would you moderate, it was in Dearborn, Michigan.
02:10:12.000They were doing like a run-up to the election and they were on the campaign trail.
02:10:15.000And they asked me if I would go moderate their conversation in Dearborn.