Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Texas Republicans Win, House Passes Redistricting Map, GOP Looks To Gain 5 Seats | Timcast IRL

00:01:38.000 The Texas House has approved redistricting, so it proves that all of that hub from the Democrats was absolutely pointless for no reason at all.

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00:03:20.000 But to talk about all these things, joining us tonight is.

00:03:23.000 Hi, everybody, Teresa Payton.

00:03:25.000 Nice to be here.

00:03:26.000 Who are you and what do you do?

00:03:28.000 I'm Teresa Payton.

00:03:29.000 I'm CEO of Fortalezza Solutions.

00:03:31.000 I was the Chief Information Officer for President George W. Bush, 2006 to 2008, the first female to hold that job.

00:03:40.000 But before that, I worked in financial services for sixteen years, and now I help companies and individuals with security.

00:03:46.000 And you have a book that you're reading?

00:03:48.000 I do have a book, yes.

00:03:49.000 So I have a paperback, second edition, Manipulated Inside the Cyber War to hijack elections and distort the truth.

00:03:56.000 It's not really just about elections.

00:03:59.000 It's all the manipulation campaigns that happen around the world, globally, including in the United States, that impact us on social issues, how we talk to each other, how we treat each other, and by the way, also elections, deepfakes, AI play a role in that as well.

00:04:13.000 Awesome.

00:04:14.000 Well, thank you for joining us.

00:04:15.000 We appreciate it.

00:04:15.000 Raymond is here.

00:04:16.000 What's up, friends?

00:04:17.000 It's your boy, Raymond Stanley junior.

00:04:19.000 Excited to meet you, Miss Theresa.

00:04:20.000 Nice to meet you.

00:04:21.000 Friends, if you're looking, if you look behind Brett, I'll introduce him today.

00:04:25.000 And Phil, it's darkk outside.

00:04:27.000 We have some blue lights, we have some red lights.

00:04:29.000 So today I got to spend the day up in the air in the lift in a boom lift connecting up for the skate jam session on august 30 that we're going to have.

00:04:36.000 So we got red, white and blue.

00:04:37.000 You know how Tim Cass rolled for America.

00:04:40.000 There you go.

00:04:40.000 I see a purple light there.

00:04:42.000 It does look a little bit.

00:04:43.000 Colors might have been changed.

00:04:44.000 I think Tim might have said go purpose, go pink for a second there.

00:04:48.000 Okay guys, my name is Brett.

00:04:49.000 I'm normally the host of Pop Culture Crisis Monday to Friday at 3 p.m. Eastern Standard Time.

00:04:54.000 Let's talk politics.

00:04:55.000 Okay.

00:04:56.000 So we're going to jump right into this from Axios.

00:04:59.000 The Texas House approves redistricting map favoring Republicans.

00:05:03.000 The Texas House gave initial approval to a new congressional map Wednesday that will probably give Republicans five more seats in a closely divided US House.

00:05:11.000 The redistricting would go a long way to ensuring the US House remains in Republican control even as it sets in motion a wave of gerrymandering in other states.

00:05:20.000 Heavily outnumbered, Texas Democrats briefly held up the redistricting plan as they left for other states, depriving the chamber of a quorum necessary for a vote, but they returned Monday for a new special session, saying they would now challenge the redistricting in the courts.

00:05:34.000 The thirty eight member Texas Congressional Delegation is currently composed of twelve Democrats and twenty five Republicans.

00:05:40.000 One seat is vacant following the death earlier this year of Democrat Rep Sylvester Turner of Houston.

00:05:46.000 Under the new map prompted by a demand from President Trump, Texas would likely send thirty Republicans and eight Democrats to Washington.

00:05:52.000 You want transparency?

00:05:54.000 The underlying goal of this redistricting is to improve Republican political performance, Bill Author State Rep Todd Hunter, Republican from Corpus Christi said on Wednesday.

00:06:04.000 The proposal amounts to an illegal and racially discriminatory map that surgically strips away minority representation in the U. S. Congress, said Rep Chris Turner from Grand Prairie.

00:06:15.000 This is Texas, not Washington, DC.

00:06:17.000 The impulse of outside politicians and their billionaire backers shouldn't dictate what we do in the House.

00:06:23.000 It is not the way that the Democrats are actually framing it.

00:06:29.000 If I understand correctly, two of the five new seats would actually be majority black, or I'm sorry, two of the five new districts would be majority black.

00:06:39.000 So this has nothing to do with race, but it does have to do with the fact that there has been such a massive demographic shift and population shift, people leaving California, moving to Texas, and all of the illegal immigration, considering that the census doesn't count citizens.

00:06:59.000 It counts people.

00:07:00.000 It counts bodies.

00:07:02.000 It's something that actually has precedent.

00:07:04.000 There have been times where there have been, you know, mid-censuses that were not just every ten years and redistricting is something that I think is important.

00:07:14.000 Do you have a sense as to what this actually is going to mean for Republicans or Democrats in DC?

00:07:20.000 I think it's going to be interesting to see as somebody who lived in Florida through redistricting and North Carolina through redistricting.

00:07:27.000 It is going to be interesting to see how it plays out.

00:07:30.000 The one thing I always say about redistricting is be careful because one man or woman's favorite redistricting, the next party, if they're becoming If they become in charge, they can change it back.

00:07:43.000 Just make sure it's something that will stand the test of time, but it will be interesting to see how it plays out.

00:07:48.000 This is something we've been talking about for a couple of days because this has kind of been what's leading the news.

00:07:53.000 Nick Sorder had some stuff to say about it on Twitter.

00:07:57.000 We're going to go to this real quick.

00:08:01.000 Breaking tonight, Texas Republican legislators have just won their fight over redistricting just moments ago.

00:08:07.000 The state house vote is now final.

00:08:10.000 The bill aims to provide five additional congressional seats for the GOP correspondent Garrett Tenney shows us what's happening from Austin, Texas tonight.

00:08:18.000 Good evening, Garrett.

00:08:20.000 No, that was very short.

00:08:23.000 But yeah.

00:08:24.000 So five seats is really going to be a big deal.

00:08:27.000 And I think if the Democrats are going to escalate, which is what they've kind of indicated that they're going to do, you'll see some redistricting in, I think it was California, Illinois.

00:08:38.000 But again, this is something we talked about a couple of times.

00:08:41.000 There's not a whole lot more the Democrats can do.

00:08:43.000 While the Republicans actually have a lot of room to squeeze more seats out of multiple states.

00:08:49.000 Well, yeah, that's because, uh, as we've talked about endlessly on this show, at least in the times I've been on, is that Republicans historically in the past have been very weak on actually making inroads and progress.

00:08:58.000 They tend to be playing defense all the time.

00:09:01.000 And now for the first time, at least in my, it feels like in my living memory that they're actually going on the offensive and the Democrats can't really do that because they've been on the offensive for so long that they've pushed that can as far down the road as they can.

00:09:12.000 And so things are happening.

00:09:13.000 It's not that, it's not that nothing ever happens.

00:09:15.000 This is nothing ever changes.

00:09:17.000 Nothing ever changes.

00:09:18.000 It's not nothing ever happens, it's that nothing ever changes.

00:09:20.000 And I'm excited to see God bless America if Jasmine Crockets loses her seat. 1.00

00:09:24.000 That would be fantastic and amazing.

00:09:26.000 She said, or I'm just looking at it, that it's racist and it's anti demographic warning that they're going to drastically drastically reduce minority voting power.

00:09:35.000 While, like Phil said, they're going to get at least two., possibly two with minority voting power.

00:09:41.000 So actually, speaking of representatives, I get it.

00:09:41.000 Yeah.

00:09:44.000 Speaking of the state.

00:09:45.000 Get as many of you as possible to flood our state.

00:09:49.000 Like when it's election time, I want them to be so mad that they did all of this because we have people coming from the entire country to Texas to make sure that this little scheme that they tried to pull where they were just going to steal and diminish the voices of black and brown people. 0.99

00:10:07.000 I want us to be so loud that they actually go running and try to figure out what's that little racist town they all hiding in and some what is it in Arkansas, Arkansas, I think they all ran to Arkansas.

00:10:20.000 That's where they need to run off to.

00:10:21.000 That's how I want them to feel after this election.

00:10:24.000 So no matter what happens, I need you all to stay in this fight because literally the war is just starting.

00:10:32.000 It is What the hell is she talking about?

00:10:34.000 I have no idea. 0.63

00:10:36.000 That is a very good question.

00:10:38.000 I didn't understand any of that other than I was assuming you did and I just didn't get any sense.

00:10:42.000 I mean, I wondered if she asked ChatGBT what was going on and maybe that was the answer it gave.

00:10:47.000 I mean, yeah.

00:10:48.000 So I don't know.

00:10:50.000 What is the press, so it's not just her saying that it's racist. 0.58

00:10:53.000 It was the Democrat from therat from the article referenced it and called it racist.

00:10:56.000 Is there some kind of precedent for why they're saying that?

00:10:59.000 It's not a research study, maybe?

00:11:01.000 Okay.

00:11:02.000 I think that it's probably just kind of boilerplate Democrat complaining about whatever the policy is.

00:11:08.000 That's just the go-to line that they've had for the better part of at least a decade, possibly fifteen years.

00:11:12.000 part of at least a decade, possibly 15 years, they just call everything racist.

00:11:17.000 And that has has worked to frighten people and say, well, because people are really people don't want to consider them, you know, think of themselves as a bad person.

00:11:26.000 And generally racism is thought of as a bad thing.

00:11:30.000 So, you know, you tell a white person, they're like, oh, you're racist.

00:11:38.000 Especially if you're talking about someone that's a Democrat.

00:11:40.000 Republicans have kind of got a thicker skin now because they've been hearing it for so long and they've gotten to the point where they're just like, I know I'm not, so I don't care what you say.

00:11:50.000 I know this is only a rhetorical tool.

00:11:52.000 This is only you trying to attack me to shut me up.

00:11:55.000 So I don't worry about those kind of accusations, but there's still people that it actually works for.

00:12:01.000 Yeah, but that's like when you're having an argument with somebody about social issues.

00:12:04.000 We're talking about political redistricting.

00:12:07.000 It's as boring as it could possibly get.

00:12:10.000 And that seems so outside of the construct of what they're discussing that it doesn't even seem relevant.

00:12:15.000 Like that makes more sense if they're talking about the actual racial demographics of their politicians saying, you didn't vote for this person, therefore your racists.

00:12:23.000 We know that's still BS as well, but that seems more logical than whatever it is that they're trying to, it feels very square peg round hole, but if anyone's going to tell you to be loud and obnoxious, it would be Jasmine Crockett. 0.63

00:12:35.000 Shea, that was on Andrew Yang.

00:12:37.000 Remember he tried to move to, was it Georgia when Georgia was having their special elections back in 2022, something like that?

00:12:44.000 He was trying to move down there, help people move down there, move a residence for three months so he can vote in that election.

00:12:49.000 And Jasmine, nobody cares about you.

00:12:51.000 No one's going to move from Missouri to Texas.

00:12:54.000 No one's going to move from Maine to Texas. 1.00

00:12:56.000 Just to save your ass. 1.00

00:12:57.000 Nobody gives F. I'm sorry, miss. 0.99

00:12:58.000 I mean, especially if you have a job that requires you to come into the office.

00:13:02.000 You think everybody works remote?

00:13:04.000 Yeah.

00:13:06.000 So, like, you know, this post from Muse says that Jasmine Crockett was calling for white people to leave Texas, suggesting they move to Arkansas.

00:13:16.000 That's white flight.

00:13:17.000 You're not supposed to do that either. 0.84

00:13:19.000 And they're building a town of the white people. 0.77

00:13:21.000 Is that what she and they're mad about that.

00:13:22.000 And now she wants them to go join this other white community. 0.68

00:13:24.000 Well, I mean, that's the that's again, again, that kind of speaks to my point about using racism as a rhetorical tool or using the accusation of racism as a wedge to get people to respond because white people have been like, you know, I don't want to be thought of as racists.

00:13:43.000 Again, that works when you're talking about regular social issues.

00:13:46.000 If we're talking about this, nobody's moving just to Yeah, but I do think that the accusation of racism is less compelling nowadays.

00:13:56.000 Just like when, you know, when you hear Nazi about Donald Trump for 35,000 times in a month or whatever, like you people start to think, okay, wait a minute.

00:14:08.000 Maybe they're just saying the most terrible thing they can think of.

00:14:13.000 And this is actually something that comes from the postmodern philosophy.

00:14:19.000 They don't actually believe, their postmodernists don't actually believe that there is a truth.

00:14:24.000 They believe that it's all perspective and they don't believe that words actually have any more meaning than we give them.

00:14:31.000 So because words have the meaning that we give them, words don't actually have any meaning.

00:14:36.000 So they can use words that function to get a reaction or to produce a result, as opposed to using words that mean something.

00:14:47.000 And it's generally has worked, but people on the right are kind of on that kind of rhetoric and are just sick and tired of it.

00:14:55.000 You point to your book.

00:14:56.000 If you got, please, if you got something you can add to that, please.

00:14:58.000 Well, no, I mean, as far as manipulation campaigns and that, that's what people have to realize is we all consciously or subconsciously have manipulation campaigns.

00:15:08.000 And so on one hand, it may be something good where, I don't know, I'm looking for light blue pumps and the internet, I now that I talked about it in front of all of you, the internet is going to send me marketing campaigns, manipulation campaigns to show me the blue pumps.

00:15:24.000 I couldn't find and now I have to buy.

00:15:27.000 So on the one hand, there's marketing, but then it can also be things like the rhetoric and the language that people use that can be very divisive.

00:15:34.000 And it's happening on the internet.

00:15:37.000 It's happening in sort of the language choices we use.

00:15:39.000 And we have to be very mindful of it and not do it ourselves, but also be able to help other people spot and stop when these manipulation campaigns are happening.

00:15:48.000 So now like you're going to turn on your computer, it's going to be ads like move to sunny Texas.

00:15:52.000 I thought it was Arkansas.

00:15:54.000 Well, is she talking about?

00:15:56.000 She wants people to move to argument. 0.88

00:15:57.000 If you're white, she wants white people. 1.00

00:15:58.000 So you got to move out of state, Miss. 0.76

00:16:00.000 Sorry about that.

00:16:02.000 Is that something that you actually get into in your book?

00:16:04.000 Not about the kind of that part of the politics, but the fact that you can see where a social media campaign using certain hashtags, using certain language, can manipulate people to think, Okay, this is what's actually happening.

00:16:19.000 And they don't have time to dig deeper.

00:16:23.000 And it ends up starting.

00:16:25.000 And the internet gives you more of what you came for, especially with algorithms today on social media platforms and AI.

00:16:31.000 And so if you ask or you linger, the internet will keep giving you more and more of what you came for.

00:16:37.000 The SIS shows also, like, they remember they did it again.

00:16:40.000 They did it before, like it was 2022 or something like that.

00:16:42.000 They all like, fifty some left the state, Democrats.

00:16:45.000 And they did it again this year.

00:16:47.000 And they both times they came back and they, and they didn't win anything.

00:16:50.000 Nothing.

00:16:50.000 They gained nothing.

00:16:51.000 So hopefully folks will realize that it's all just performative.

00:16:55.000 It's all just fake.

00:16:56.000 What's the best way to reset, like, if we're talking purely on social media platforms, what is the best way to like reset your algorithm if it's going off the rails?

00:16:56.000 I have a question for you.

00:17:06.000 I mean, look at rolling pandas.

00:17:08.000 I mean, so if you think about rolling pandas?

00:17:11.000 How can you have a bad day when you see pandas rolling down a hill?

00:17:14.000 And so if you want, I mean, whenever I feel like my algorithm needs a reset, I'll look at funny animal videos or rolling pandas or maybe I'll look at something I love Pope Leo, so I'll look at something that Pope Leo recently said and it just resets your algorithm. 0.91

00:17:29.000 Because like X is particularly pernicious and like last week we covered the stupid story about the Mormon dating show. 0.99

00:17:37.000 Oh yeah, that was funny. 0.94

00:17:38.000 And I did myself the service of bookmarking like two people talking about it.

00:17:43.000 And then I closed X, I opened it back up and it took nine posts before I saw something that wasn't quoting that single thing.

00:17:52.000 So I had to unbookmark.

00:17:55.000 I had to send it to myself through Slack so that it wouldn't be bookmarked on my page because it completely destroyed my feed.

00:18:03.000 It does that.

00:18:04.000 And that's the thing.

00:18:05.000 What they want is for you to spend more time.

00:18:09.000 So the more eyes they have, the more money they make.

00:18:11.000 And it's one of the things I found in doing the research for the book was, you know, I thought a lot of times manipulation campaigns as they related to political elections around the world was about trying to pick winners and losers.

00:18:23.000 But what I realized in the research for my book is people actually make a lot of money in the process.

00:18:28.000 So Meta makes a lot of money. 1.00

00:18:31.000 And then I came across through HackerX, there was a Macedonian group and HackerX asked them, why are you guys doing pro Bernie, pro Trump, and anti Hillary?

00:18:42.000 And this was back in that time frame when all three of them were running.

00:18:47.000 And they said, Oh, we're not.

00:18:48.000 That's the combo that makes us the most money.

00:18:51.000 So you click on their news, you click on the ads, you spend time there, and they figured out when they were pro Hillary, they didn't make as much money.

00:19:00.000 But when they were pro Bernie, pro Trump, anti Hillary, that for them, capitalism wise, they just said, We're pro capitalism, these Macedonians. 0.66

00:19:08.000 Bernie would hate that.

00:19:09.000 He would.

00:19:10.000 I don't know, he'sll, he'll, maybe he loves it for himself, but he's right.

00:19:19.000 He's in talking.

00:19:19.000 He wrote a book about it.

00:19:20.000 He's got like, he's not even, he's not even the private sector.

00:19:25.000 Yeah.

00:19:25.000 So, I mean, look, at the end of the day, the, you know, whether you're talking about this kind of manipulation or whatever, or you're talking about redistricting, the goal is to get the, as much political power as you can.

00:19:37.000 And I think that the Democrats have made it pretty clear, even though they'll swear up and down that this is some kind of, I guess, a nefarious attempt by the Republicans.

00:19:48.000 This is something that's pretty mundane, to be honest with you.

00:19:50.000 Now, granted, like I said, it is odd that.

00:19:55.000 they're doing a redistricting and they want to do it halfway through the census time.

00:20:00.000 Normally, it's every 10 years that they'll do a census and then they'll redistrict.

00:20:04.000 But it's not unprecedented.

00:20:06.000 It's happened before.

00:20:08.000 They could do a whole other census and that might even change more of the congressional representation.

00:20:13.000 It's likely to change more of the congressional representation.

00:20:18.000 I just want to know, what do you guys think is going to be the overall outcome of this?

00:20:23.000 The attempts at redistricting, do you think it's going to turn into a big old fight between Republicans and Democrats?

00:20:28.000 Do you think California is going to go and then the Republicans are going to actually have to go?

00:20:31.000 Or do you think that it' will just be something that happens in Texas?

00:20:34.000 Because California, they actually have to have a referendum to do this.

00:20:40.000 Do you think that they have the actual, do you think there's the fire in California's belly to actually pass the referendum and continue this?

00:20:49.000 And if that doesn't happen, do the Republicans still respond in other states and say, let's just go whole hog and go for as many seats as we can?

00:20:56.000 What would be another state that they would want to do this in?

00:20:58.000 Republicans or Democrats?

00:20:59.000 Republicans.

00:21:00.000 Oh, I mean, we had the, let me see if I can find it.

00:21:03.000 Because it was like, what, there's like seven states that have a strong percentage Republican with no Republican representation?

00:21:09.000 Yeah, I mean, yeah, a lot of them.

00:21:10.000 Yeah.

00:21:11.000 My, I mean, my old home state, Massachusetts, they have zero Republican representation.

00:21:18.000 And, you know, 35, 35, 40 percent of the people in Massachusetts are Republicans.

00:21:22.000 It's not, it's not 100 percent, you know, Democrat.

00:21:27.000 But the same thing kind of goes for California, right?

00:21:31.000 Like they have a lot of, a lot of people that are Republicans in California because there's just a lot of people in California and there are very few Republican representatives.

00:21:42.000 So I mean, that's the problem though, right?

00:21:44.000 You can't show those seven states to a Jasmine Crockett or whoever is making their argument to the contrary because they probably know anyway, well, she might not know, but the others who are talking about this might already likely know about this.

00:21:55.000 They understand that it's not racial.

00:21:57.000 They understand that it's absolutely about political power.

00:22:00.000 They don't care and they never have.

00:22:02.000 Yeah.

00:22:02.000 So it looks like, I mean, there's one, two, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen states that Republicans could redraw the maps in.

00:22:14.000 Whereas the Democrats have four.

00:22:17.000 So it's not, it doesn't look good for the Republic for the Democrats in California.

00:22:21.000 Again, California isn't even a guarantee.

00:22:24.000 They're just talking about it and they're going to, they'd have to have a refer referendum and the people would have to actually have to vote for it.

00:22:29.000 So Do you guys have the sense that this is something that the Republicans will push for?

00:22:34.000 Because as far as I'm concerned, like I want to see the Republicans do everything they can to shove it down the Democrats' throats because this is something again we talk about regularly.

00:22:42.000 Democrats are going to do that. 1.00

00:22:44.000 Democrats are going to do everything they can if and when they get back in power because eventually they will when they do, they are going to do everything they can to expand the court, the Supreme Court.

00:22:54.000 They're going to try to add states. 0.94

00:22:55.000 They're going to try to get rid of the Electoral College. 1.00

00:22:57.000 Now, those things may not happen, but they're going to try because Democrats aren't afraid to exercise power.

00:23:04.000 Whereas Republicans really do avoid exercising power.

00:23:07.000 I think with this, with the success of Texas, hopefully folks, Missouri, there's a couple other, you know, North Carolina, South Carolina, will see this, or other states that we're talking about that need to be restricted.

00:23:22.000 Ohio, definitely Ohio, you kidding me?

00:23:24.000 Kentucky, Tennessee, hopefully they'll take the lead of Texas and be like, you know what? 0.98

00:23:28.000 And we've been shitting... 0.98

00:23:34.000 They've just been sitting by the strongly worded letters aren't going to cut it, bro. 0.78

00:23:38.000 So hopefully I'm hoping, like Phil, and like we were saying as well, too, Brett, that they should take the power and just do it.

00:23:44.000 Just do it.

00:23:44.000 I mean, I think it'll be interesting.

00:23:47.000 to see what happens from a leadership perspective on the Republican side.

00:23:51.000 The other thing I would say is if you're going to do it, do it, but think through the opportunity cost.

00:23:55.000 So if you're spending time on this, is there something else that's not going to get done?

00:24:01.000 And so if you're going to do it, do it knowing you're going to win, like be in it to win it, or focus on the thing you're not doing.

00:24:08.000 So that would be my biggest thing because I think a frustration, a lot of times is sometimes, you know, they like being number two versus number one because then you have to lead.

00:24:20.000 So I would just say for the Republicans, make sure if you're in it and you're going to do this this, be in it to win it and focus on.

00:24:27.000 So what's not going to get done if we're focused on this?

00:24:29.000 Do you think that there's something that they could be better spent using their time for?

00:24:34.000 I mean, it depends.

00:24:37.000 It depends on what's going state by state, what they should be focused on.

00:24:40.000 So, like, for example, with Texas, they've had a lot of issues with having to deal with crime, immigration.

00:24:49.000 They have a lot going on in that economy, and it's a very big state and very diverse economy.

00:24:54.000 And so for them, this is probably where they want to spend their time.

00:24:58.000 And the opportunity cost is worth it.

00:25:01.000 Some of the other states.

00:25:02.000 It's, I think you've, you just have to look at the long list of things that need to get done that might not get done if you're focused on this.

00:25:10.000 So we're going to jump to this story now.

00:25:10.000 Yeah.

00:25:10.000 All right.

00:25:12.000 We're, we're going to talk a little bit about Bed Bath and Beyond.

00:25:15.000 They went away for a couple of years, but they're coming back.

00:25:19.000 Major retailers from Fox News, Fox Business, major retailers say no to California, pulls zero punches outlining economic reality.

00:25:27.000 Bed Bath and Beyond executive chairman Marcus Lemones, I think that's right, announced on Wednesday that the company won't operate, open or operate retail stores in California, saying the decision isn't about politics.

00:25:37.000 It's about reality.

00:25:38.000 Lemones said in a statement posted on.

00:25:41.000 X that the decision was driven by the fact that the company wouldn't be able to sustain operations in the state due to higher taxes, higher fees, and higher wages coupled with endless regulations that strangle growth.

00:25:52.000 California has created one of the most over regulated, expensive, and risky environments for businesses in America, Lamone said, noting that the state's policies created a system that makes it harder to employ people, harder to keep doors open, and harder to deliver value to customers.

00:26:06.000 Lamone said that the state's budget surpluses come at the expense of ordinary citizens who are paying too much and businesses who are squeezed until they break.

00:26:15.000 Lamone said the company won't participate in a system that he says undermines both its customers and shareholders.

00:26:21.000 But the company is not alienating its California customers.

00:26:23.000 Instead, Lamone said the company is investing in a strategy that will enable Californians to get products from bedbath and beyond dot com that will be delivered between 24 and 48 hours.

00:26:32.000 In many cases, same day services will be offered.

00:26:35.000 Lamone said nothing that it will, excuse me, Lamone said noting that it will help the company avoid the inflated costs created by an unstable business model.

00:26:44.000 This comes as the alien company fights its way back to relevance after it collapsed in 2023 from mounting debt and several failed turnaround strategies under its mother company renamed from Beyond Inc.

00:26:55.000 to bedbath and beyond dot com.

00:26:56.000 to Bed Bath and Beyond this week.

00:26:57.000 The retailer is returning to brick and mortar shops with its first, first Bed Bath and Beyond opening in Nashville earlier this month.

00:27:05.000 So theoretically they should have like brick and mortar stores, right?

00:27:09.000 Like products like that seem like something that you would want to go and actually buy in person.

00:27:14.000 Well, not only that, like, you know, a lot of people like to be able to go and, you know, hold things like towels or sheets.

00:27:20.000 It's one thing to be like, oh, you know, I want to order things that are not tactile from from from Amazon, but was one of the things listed, did it have to do with crime?

00:27:31.000 Was it like the lack of prosecution for stuff getting stolen?

00:27:34.000 Are they worried about having to like lock up individual towels?

00:27:37.000 I think this I think this case not in the this case, not so much because they'd been out of business.

00:27:41.000 It's the taxes.

00:27:42.000 Yeah, it's well, it's not just the taxes.

00:27:44.000 It's the cost of hiring people because the minimum wage is extremely high in California.

00:27:50.000 It's probably the cost of regulation.

00:27:53.000 Opening actual brick and mortar stores is not cheap in California.

00:27:56.000 These things add up and they disincentivize business.

00:28:00.000 California loves to talk about how they're the ninth biggest economy in the world.

00:28:04.000 And this is what one of the guys was saying earlier.

00:28:08.000 The piece is a bit long, so we're not going to listen to it, but California loves to talk about how they're one of the or they're the ninth biggest economy in the world.

00:28:15.000 And it's tru because California's got beautiful weather and it's got beautiful land and stuff.

00:28:22.000 Those kinds of things only retain people for a certain time.

00:28:26.000 You have Teslas left and that was a big deal because literally one of the politicians was vocally criticizing Musk on the internet and Musk was like, Okay, message received and just moved out.

00:28:37.000 That's a big business that they lost.

00:28:40.000 That's a lot of people that worked there that had to either move with Tesla or lost their jobs.

00:28:46.000 And I don't know how many other companies have left California in the past five years.

00:28:51.000 Couldn't even keep Joe Rogan.

00:28:52.000 Yeah, Joe Rogan.

00:28:53.000 Yeah, and that's like, I don't know how many people Rogan employs, but it's not that many, but even still, like, when you're that wealthy, you know, as well as wealthy as Rogan is, look man, you have a lot of leverage with getting around laws that you don't want to deal with or paying fees and stuff, it doesn't really matter, but Rogan, you know, apparently it was too much for Rogan to take.

00:29:18.000 And again, they've lost, I think they net lost like 500,000 people over the past few years, which is incredible because if you've anyone, you know, you've been to California, it's gorgeous.

00:29:29.000 It's absolutely beautiful on the coast.

00:29:31.000 You know, some of California is.

00:29:33.000 desert like the rest of the southwest, or sorry, southwest, but still, it's really, it's really beautiful where the people are, the population centers.

00:29:42.000 So it takes significantly bad governance to get people to say, I can't deal with you.

00:29:51.000 When you're going to lose a staple like In and Out Burger, the headquarters of In and Out Burger, that's known for being in California, they're going to move to Nashville or Tennessee.

00:30:00.000 That's a big deal.

00:30:00.000 Also, Phil, answer your question.

00:30:02.000 Two other companies within last since 2020 have moved out of California.

00:30:07.000 Chevron, Hewlett Packard, Enterprise, Oracle, Charles Schwab, McKenzen, they all moved to Texas.

00:30:13.000 Yeah.

00:30:13.000 Like I was saying the other day in 2018 when I was doing recruiting.

00:30:16.000 Yeah, over two hundred.

00:30:17.000 Putting in any data centers?

00:30:18.000 Most, when I was recruiting, everyone was moving to Texas even like five years ago before 2020.

00:30:23.000 So can we go back just for a second?

00:30:25.000 But yes, on data centers, Stargate will be in Abilene, Texas, but let's talk about that because they're Oh, the Stargate, the AI center.

00:30:34.000 But let's go back to the fact we are building brick and mortar.

00:30:39.000 Everything old is new again.

00:30:41.000 Old school is finally cool.

00:30:43.000 And what's interesting, I'm raising three Gen Z's.

00:30:46.000 Gen Z's love going to the mall. 0.84

00:30:50.000 Gen Z's want in person, Gen Z's want tactile, they want to be places in real life. 0.88

00:30:57.000 Don't get me wrong, they love convenience.

00:30:58.000 So if they can get something delivered to them when it's convenient, great.

00:31:03.000 But they remember, we locked them up for like ten to twenty percent of their life during COVID.

00:31:08.000 Some places did, depending on where you lived.

00:31:11.000 I mean, so just a quick story.

00:31:13.000 So I live in North Carolina, but very close to South Carolina border, and we were going crazy.

00:31:17.000 It's middle of COVID.

00:31:18.000 Everything's closed in North Carolina.

00:31:20.000 And so I picked up the phone and called a bowling alley in South Carolina about ten miles from my house, and they picked up on the first ring.

00:31:26.000 And I said, Oh my gosh, are you open?

00:31:28.000 She said, Honey, it's South Carolina.

00:31:29.000 We never closed.

00:31:31.000 And so we packed up the kids and we went bowling.

00:31:33.000 But anyway, Gen Z loves brick and mortar, loves shopping in person. 0.71

00:31:39.000 So it's going to be interesting to see, like, look at Starbucks.

00:31:42.000 In store sales are down.

00:31:44.000 Gen Z says, says this place is soless.

00:31:47.000 They're adding people to work in Starbucks.

00:31:51.000 So while we're talking about AI on the one hand, Gen Z is speaking with their wallets and their pocket books. 0.66

00:31:56.000 Let's go back to Texas though.

00:31:58.000 Abilene is going to have the big data center going in.

00:32:02.000 I don't think a lot of people realize the energy consumption that AI, cryptocurrency, and eventually quantum, is going to be asking for, but we've got some big decisions to make.

00:32:14.000 So as these huge data centers go in, they're bigger than anything we have today.

00:32:19.000 We have to ask ourselves when it's in your neighborhood, when there's a rolling brown out, who gets the energy?

00:32:26.000 Is it going to be the data center that's now powering really important things?

00:32:29.000 Is it going to be your house?

00:32:31.000 Is it going to be the hospital?

00:32:33.000 Is it going to be the schools?

00:32:34.000 Who's going to get it?

00:32:35.000 So we've got some big questions that have to be answered.

00:32:38.000 It'll be like one of the most centered hospital, maybe your house third.

00:32:42.000 We can't.

00:32:42.000 Data center before hospital.

00:32:44.000 You can't overemphasize how important.

00:32:47.000 the generating electricity is going to be for the future.

00:32:50.000 And if you look at how much China's done, because you're right about the data centers, AI is incredibly electricity intensive and China has, I think, I don't know how much they've increased, but they have, they're just eating our lunch and you can't get permits in the US to turn on a nuclear power plant.

00:33:13.000 that will actually be functional before 2032.

00:33:17.000 Do you know an American nuclear engineer?

00:33:19.000 No.

00:33:20.000 You know, solar, like I like the idea of solar and Musk seems to believe.

00:33:24.000 in solar.

00:33:25.000 He thinks that it's the, he's like, this is the future.

00:33:27.000 That's where it's going to be.

00:33:28.000 But look, your nuclear generation nowadays, nuclear power generation is safe.

00:33:36.000 Coal keeps the AI on.

00:33:38.000 Well, I mean, right now it does in China, but they're looking, they're making massive, massive gains in everything.

00:33:45.000 China doesn't have the same kind of restrictions that the United States does.

00:33:48.000 They don't.

00:33:49.000 If the United States, if China wants to do something, they just do it. 0.93

00:33:53.000 It doesn't matter if they have to tear an entire village up and displace ten thousand people or twenty thousand people.

00:34:00.000 They just do it.

00:34:00.000 They don't care.

00:34:01.000 This is what the state needs now, and so that's what's going to happen.

00:34:05.000 They've been building nuclear.

00:34:07.000 They're building dams.

00:34:08.000 They're building a dam now that's going to make the Three Gorges Dam look like child's play.

00:34:12.000 The new dam is alleged to be able, is planned to be able to produce enough power to power all of a population the size of Germany, like the whole country from one dam.

00:34:25.000 If the United States doesn't get their S together when it comes to power generation, they're going to lose.

00:34:32.000 Never mind all the stuff you said, because you're totally right about Brown. 1.00

00:34:34.000 It's like, does the AI center get the power?

00:34:37.000 Does the hospital that's keeping people on life support get the power?

00:34:41.000 or does your air conditioner get the power?

00:34:43.000 Like when the brown outs are happening, they're going to have to triage. 0.99

00:34:46.000 That's going to happen.

00:34:47.000 That's totally true.

00:34:48.000 But not only that, if the United States is not making enough power, the United States will lose the AI race. 0.74

00:34:55.000 And that is the most important thing going right now.

00:34:59.000 I can't, I know there are people that are AI skeptic and that say, Oh, AI is not that impressive or it won't be.

00:35:05.000 I truly believe that they are dead wrong that this technology is going to not just revolutionize one industry, it's going to revolutionize the world.

00:35:15.000 It's going to be bigger than the internet.

00:35:17.000 It's going to be bigger than the printing press., the change that's going to happen because of AI.

00:35:22.000 It is, it is, it's the next industrial revolution and what people have to realize.

00:35:26.000 So today's data centers don't match what we need for AI, cryptocurrency.

00:35:33.000 So the data centers that are being built, including in Abilene, Texas as part of the Stargate rollout, they're going to need to be a five gigawatt campus.

00:35:42.000 This is the equivalent to the power coming out of three nuclear plants.

00:35:48.000 Real quick question.

00:35:49.000 Tucson, Arizona, recently said they rejected unanimously their Project Blue data center, massive data center.

00:35:57.000 So if we're going to if they're going to keep saying no to the data centers, I mean, it was going to take all their water and kill the whole economy and it's going to be terrible for them.

00:36:03.000 But where can they where can they put the data centers where they don't kill all the water and make people in the surrounding area, you know, not have water and just live terrible lives?

00:36:12.000 Look, in 2024, China generated, what is it, 10,073 terawatt hours while the United States generated 4,387 terawatt hours.

00:36:23.000 Now, it's twice as much as the US.

00:36:25.000 And granted, China has a lot more people, right?

00:36:28.000 But that doesn't change the fact that they have the capacity and the United States does not have the capacity and China is generating, China is building and investing in ways that the United States just isn't.

00:36:40.000 And this is a massive problem.

00:36:42.000 This is something that is going to AI and power generation, like the number of electrons that you can, that you can generate is a massive, massive problem for the United States right now.

00:36:53.000 But they build cities that are dead.

00:36:55.000 They spend a lot of money.

00:36:56.000 Oh yeah, they're empty.

00:36:57.000 You know what I mean?

00:36:58.000 They spend all this money.

00:37:00.000 I guess it's different when you get a data center compared to a construction site and a construction program.

00:37:04.000 They build this huge city that nobody lives in, where data center is online and it's actual, you don't need a structural foundation.

00:37:12.000 It's just the cloud.

00:37:15.000 What was that?

00:37:17.000 The data center is a actual physical No, I understand, but you're not building a huge city for people that won't live in it.

00:37:23.000 You're building a data center for people to use the cloud.

00:37:28.000 You know what I mean?

00:37:29.000 Okay.

00:37:30.000 There's actually used data center that has a use, whereas the city of emptiness is there.

00:37:35.000 Okay, okay, I see what you're saying.

00:37:37.000 The city of emptiness.

00:37:38.000 I was born and raised in the city of emptiness.

00:37:38.000 Yes.

00:37:41.000 What city was that?

00:37:42.000 Hamlin, Pennsylvania.

00:37:44.000 Anyway.

00:37:44.000 Are they going to put a data center?

00:37:46.000 No, there's no data center.

00:37:48.000 No.

00:37:49.000 Okay, well, back to the situation with Bed, Bath and Beyond.

00:37:54.000 from Marcus Lemon said, We will not open retail stores in California.

00:37:58.000 This is not about politics.

00:37:59.000 It's about reality.

00:38:00.000 California's system makes it nearly impossible for businesses to succeed, and I won't put our company, our employees or our customers in that position.

00:38:08.000 See attachment.

00:38:09.000 What's annoying about it is it's actually a triumph of capitalism that they can reopen stores and still get products to people in California and find a way around that.

00:38:19.000 But because the left is so anti business and anti capitalist by nature that they won't see this as the win that it is, what they'll say is you should open a business here, lose money on it and pay us 35,000 dollars an hour and instead they're not seeing it for what it is which is a win for everybody involved because they're working with the you know with what they've been given which is crappy regulation no ability to operate within the state but still get products to people there look california's minimum wage is 1650 an hour okay not

00:38:49.000 35 000 you're close enough but that's look the fact of the matter is like the amount of people that actually make minimum wage and the length of time that they stay at minimum wage is like it's very few people and it's very very short i'm actually gonna let me google that's a good question because 1650 is not a liv living wage in California if you're living by yourself.

00:39:12.000 That's, I mean, in California in general, you can't live by yourself even if you're making like 80k.

00:39:18.000 Well, that's why they should be happy that they don't get taxed on tips now.

00:39:21.000 Yeah.

00:39:22.000 Only for four years.

00:39:23.000 And then we can talk about it later when Trump's out of office and we can have another wedge issue to fight about.

00:39:28.000 10% of workers Yeah, so they they don't have an actual number for us, but 10% of workers in the state make no more than the current minimum wage.

00:39:35.000 That's a lot.

00:39:37.000 Yeah, that for it that actually is, let's see California 60, approximately 10%.

00:39:42.000 So it says people make below that.

00:39:44.000 Is that because they're working like commission?

00:39:47.000 Well, it would be waiting tables.

00:39:49.000 Yeah, people that are working in the service industry or possibly they might be talking about people that are illegal, that are, you know, being paid under the table and they might be throwing them into the estimate, but I don't really know.

00:40:00.000 But even still, like, I'm not sure.

00:40:02.000 Let me see what they say about total.

00:40:05.000 Just real quick, I know someone recently who went to the service industry and they're like, what, 2,35 an hour?

00:40:12.000 They had, they had no idea because it's all tips.

00:40:15.000 Your income is tips, you get 2,35 an hour and it blew their mind.

00:40:19.000 But I think you have to pay babysitters at least 20 dollars an hour if you want a decent babysitter.

00:40:23.000 So I'm trying to make sense.

00:40:25.000 Yeah.

00:40:26.000 So there's only, there's about 869,000 hourly workers in the United States that make the federal minimum wage.

00:40:33.000 So that's, I mean, that's an, that's 1.1% of hourly workers.

00:40:39.000 That is an exceedingly small amount of people that actually make minimum wage.

00:40:44.000 Most people, you know, make way, make considerably more than minimum wage.

00:40:47.000 Even if they're not making a lot of money, most people are making more than minimum wage.

00:40:52.000 So it's the idea that raising the minimum wage is important to a considerable number of the electorate is just wrong.

00:41:01.000 Well, it's another wedge issue that they focus on during election season because it wouldn't matter anyways with inflation at the rate that it's at now.

00:41:08.000 It's like we've been so past, like, like, wages have failed to rise with the rate of inflation for so long that it's almost a moot point.

00:41:18.000 Because the cost of everything is going up anyway.

00:41:18.000 Yeah.

00:41:21.000 That's why Walgreens and all those guys went on business in California because they started doing twenty dollars an hour and they couldn't afford to pay the people.

00:41:27.000 That and then the fact that people regulations stealing and Oh sure, sure.

00:41:31.000 Oh yeah.

00:41:32.000 You go in and buy deodorant and it's all locked individually in a case or you have to go to the reception desk and say or the cashier and say, I'd like a deodorant.

00:41:40.000 Here's the.

00:41:41.000 I just want to smell clean.

00:41:42.000 That's all I want to do, smell clean.

00:41:43.000 But like, no, I have to go through the whole process.

00:41:45.000 Yeah.

00:41:45.000 So, I mean, California.

00:41:47.000 and not only that, but when the police won't enforce laws against shop lifting, that's what happens.

00:41:56.000 It's essentially telling people it's okay.

00:41:59.000 Why wouldn't you?

00:42:00.000 You know, what's going to stop you if the police won't actually enforce the law?

00:42:05.000 It's all like it's all cloud pivot stuff.

00:42:07.000 Like they just destabilize and knock it all down.

00:42:09.000 And then when they're greeted as liberators, when they, when they come to inevitably, oh, we'll insist on our laws and our order and everything like that, but it doesn't really work because we're the ones insisting on law and order.

00:42:18.000 So it kind of backfiring for them, I think.

00:42:20.000 Yes, sir.

00:42:21.000 Okay, we're going to jump to this story here from the post millennial.

00:42:24.000 Cracker Barrel fans slam new redesign, woke CEO insists feedback is overwhelmingly positive.

00:42:32.000 Cracker Barrel is facing a wave of backlash after unveiling its first major logo design since nineteen seventy seven, with longtime customers and fans furious that the company quietly dropped its signature cowboy from the image that defined the chain for nearly five decades, says Gray News.

00:42:49.000 The company's CEO is now under attack from Cracker Barrel traditionalists who believe the brand is being mismanaged.

00:42:55.000 The country style restaurant chain rolled out the new look keeping its golden brown palette but removed the iconic figure of a man leaning against a barrel.

00:43:03.000 with a minimalist design focused solely on the barrel itself.

00:43:06.000 In a statement, the company said the refreshed logo is rooted even more closely to the iconic barrel shape and word mark that started it all.

00:43:17.000 The controversy comes on the heels of other missteps by CEO Julie Flesmassino, who took the helm less than a year ago.

00:43:24.000 Last year she sparked outrage during an investor call by declaring We're just not as relevant as we once were while admitting that some of our recipes and processes haven't evolved in decades.

00:43:34.000 Those remarks, combined with sluggish post pandemic business, rattled investors.

00:43:39.000 The company's stock plunged nearlyly twenty percent in the weeks following her comments, whoa, following her comments, sinking to a 52 week low of 45.35, its weakest trading level in more than ten years, according to Daily Mail.

00:43:52.000 She shouldn't she have been focused on the we are a mainstay, we're something that doesn't need to change, we represent a steady hand for America that is resistant to change because it's good the way it is.

00:44:05.000 Isn't the CEO's job to frame things in a positive light?

00:44:08.000 If you go by the stock price, I would say that's probably Yeah, but they're saying that that stock drop also came on the heels of her making those comments, right?

00:44:15.000 I mean, it was a bad idea, clearly.

00:44:15.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:44:17.000 Yeah.

00:44:18.000 I have to say, they waited 47 years to change the logo, so why now?

00:44:24.000 Yeah, why change that?

00:44:26.000 What were people saying, I really don't like Barrel and Cracker Barrel?

00:44:32.000 Are they looking for young people to come in and come to Cracker Barrel?

00:44:36.000 Because that's not your audience, like part of running a business is knowing who your target market is.

00:44:40.000 Now I understand that with most businesses you're always looking to expand and you never just want to settle into one demographic and stick with it, but for a company like this you have to at the very least you have to settle into what you know works and then perhaps branch out from there.

00:44:55.000 Yeah.

00:44:56.000 I mean, it's normal to see a backlash from people on the internet when it comes to significant changes.

00:45:04.000 But there was another picture that I saw going around, and I don't know if it's actually in this, in this piece from the Postmillennial, but they had changed the inside too, all of the knickknacks that were, you know, frequently or in all of the cracker bales, because the walls are just packed with stuff.

00:45:19.000 They're just consistently full of things.

00:45:22.000 Those are all going to be changed too.

00:45:24.000 And it looks very, it looks sparse in comparison to the way that it used to be.

00:45:29.000 And it's almost like I couldn't help but think of like the it's in my imagination.

00:45:33.000 It's like if Brooklyn was designing a cracker barrel because it reminded me of the picture of that sparse little barbecue when people were saying, Oh, this is what barbecue in Brooklyn's like.

00:45:45.000 And it's like, you think of barbecue, you think of a big plate of stuff, and like, it was these tiny little portions.

00:45:52.000 And it just made me think, this is, this is not what people think of when they think of Cracker Barrel, and it doesn't seem to stay true to the spirit of the company.

00:46:02.000 Homogeneity is the name of the game of fast food now though.

00:46:05.000 I mean, McDonald's looks like a corporate office when you go inside there.

00:46:08.000 And the same is true. 0.93

00:46:09.000 Like, whenever we're back visiting in Michigan, there's like a Shake Shack there, and it looks like a CPA office.

00:46:16.000 It doesn't have any personality whatsoever.

00:46:18.000 So most of these places, I don't know if it's most of it has a lot to do with the fact that a lot of the business comes from delivery now anyways from DoorDash that they just don't try as hard inside.

00:46:28.000 But he said this lady's only been in charge for like a year. 1.00

00:46:30.000 She's taking it down in record time.

00:46:32.000 We are going to see a ton of think pieces on X2 about how this is another sign about the death of the American culture. 0.79

00:46:39.000 There's going to be very long articles written by people about how this is actually a sign of the end times.

00:46:45.000 Let's see what she had to say about this here.

00:46:46.000 All right, I got to ask this question.

00:46:48.000 I think I probably know the answer.

00:46:50.000 What if all the customers are coming at you hard enough about the look the look of the restaurants and they want to go back to the old way.

00:46:57.000 Would you do it?

00:46:58.000 Honestly, the feedback has been overwhelmingly positive that people like what we're doing.

00:47:02.000 I'll give you another soundbite.

00:47:04.000 I actually happened to be in Orlando last week with all of our managers.

00:47:06.000 We bring them together once every two years.

00:47:10.000 And the number one question that I got asked, Michael, was, how can I get a remodel?

00:47:14.000 When can I get a remodel?

00:47:15.000 How do I get on the list?

00:47:16.000 Oh really?

00:47:17.000 So because the feedback and the buzz is so good, not only from our customers but from our team members.

00:47:22.000 They want to work in a wonderful restaurant.

00:47:24.000 So we're doing everything for our guests and our team members.

00:47:27.000 We're doing the Messino.

00:47:28.000 It's wonderful to have you here.

00:47:29.000 Pleasure to be here.

00:47:30.000 Thank you for asking those questions for all the Crackerberry Barrel.

00:48:12.000 Yeah.

00:48:13.000 This is horrible.

00:48:14.000 What's worse, this or the MSNBC rebrand?

00:48:17.000 This.

00:48:18.000 Yeah, who cares about MSNBC, MSNow?

00:48:20.000 Yeah, like this.

00:48:21.000 Who cares about that?

00:48:22.000 Yeah, I think that this is, I mean, this is worse because Cracker Barrel actually, like, I like Cracker Barrel, or I do like Cracker Barrel, and I don't care what MSNBC or what MSNow does.

00:48:33.000 I don't pay for it.

00:48:34.000 I think it would be interesting to see how the same store sales start to look a quarter from now.

00:48:40.000 But if I were advising the new CEO, which I'm not, I mean, but if she's listening, she might be, you never know.

00:48:47.000 If she were listening.

00:48:48.000 What I would say to her is, you know, when I worked in banking, we used to do Mystery Shopper.

00:48:52.000 So we would go in as if we were a customer, not present ourselves as someone from corporate, and just mingle with the other customers, see how we were treated, and see what the experience felt like.

00:49:05.000 I would highly recommend she do like an undercover boss and be like a Mystery Shopper, and just go visit the Cracker Barrels and even come, like, try to engage with other customers to get some real customer focused feedback. 1.00

00:49:21.000 That would be my biggest recommendation to her.

00:49:23.000 If she were asking my opinion, if she's watching the show, that's what I would say..

00:49:26.000 The cracker barrel crowd aren't like hippie, dippy, drinking paps blue ribbon beer. 0.91

00:49:35.000 Hippies, you know, like cool kids anymore.

00:49:38.000 They're just older generations.

00:49:39.000 They want to relax.

00:49:40.000 They want to have breakfast in the morning with the steak and eggs.

00:49:43.000 They love the old, like you said, Gen Z. They might like the walls full of like memorabilia and all the stuff of like the history of America.

00:49:54.000 That would be nice.

00:49:55.000 But when you make it all bland and also...

00:50:00.000 Do you think women, this is off topic, they come in and they ruin Bud Light, not they, but certain people come in and the room, but like, Wait, are you blaming women?

00:50:00.000 Yeah.

00:50:10.000 Yeah, you're right.

00:50:10.000 You did.

00:50:12.000 The more I'm learning about these CEOs and these HR reps, like, what's going on with the whole, you know, can women be in charge of a company? 1.00

00:50:21.000 I'm in charge of my company.

00:50:23.000 Are you successful?

00:50:25.000 Yeah, we're very successful.

00:50:26.000 I'm here.

00:50:27.000 I mean, come on.

00:50:28.000 I know, I'm just having fun.

00:50:33.000 Oh, that was I was thinking.

00:50:34.000 Except that's gone.

00:50:36.000 We need to leave now.

00:50:37.000 We ride tonight.

00:50:38.000 Or the checkers outside.

00:50:41.000 Right.

00:50:41.000 And the rocking chairs.

00:50:42.000 They get rid of that stuff.

00:50:43.000 I'm never going back.

00:50:44.000 No, we ride.

00:50:45.000 That gaming stuff.

00:50:46.000 You had to go to a Cracker Barrel.

00:50:47.000 Have you ever won that game at Cracker Barrel?

00:50:49.000 You bet.

00:50:50.000 Tim, like, asked ChatGBT how to win it one night when we were.

00:50:54.000 Yeah.

00:50:55.000 So this picture.

00:50:56.000 Yeah.

00:50:56.000 It takes me a while.

00:50:57.000 I got to warm up a little bit, you know, to get back into the groove of it.

00:51:01.000 See, this is a terrible picture.

00:51:02.000 It doesn't actually Oh yeah.

00:51:04.000 There were videos on X of it.

00:51:05.000 There were videos of people.

00:51:08.000 You can probably find them on X. But it's just like, there were no, like, actual booths when you went there before.

00:51:14.000 It was like, oh, back chairs.

00:51:15.000 You look, exactly.

00:51:16.000 That was one of the things that I wanted to point out.

00:51:18.000 These chairs.

00:51:19.000 Yeah.

00:51:20.000 Like, when I googled it, they brought up pictures of just the, the changes, some of the changes they've made.

00:51:26.000 But this one is the one that I wanted to see, or this particular redesign, because getting rid of those round back, the round top chairs that really looked, had that rustic look, in favor of this, it's like, this might as well be an IHOP, right?

00:51:41.000 This might as well be I thought it looked like a hospital cafeteria.

00:51:44.000 The local, the local.

00:51:46.000 This one had the older one.

00:51:47.000 The older one?

00:51:48.000 This looks like a hospital cafeteria.

00:51:50.000 The Applebee's By My House has more memorabilia than this does.

00:51:55.000 So Modernia is basically doing terrible things for culture, I believe.

00:52:00.000 Yeah.

00:52:02.000 It all looks the same now.

00:52:03.000 Yeah, there is a...

00:52:06.000 Like last night, you guys talked about that shitbox house.

00:52:08.000 That's the African American History Museum that looks like the Chewbacca's. 0.96

00:52:13.000 looks like the jaw was.

00:52:14.000 Yeah, it's all like ever since what, World War II, we went to this weird and I heard Yeah, brutalism.

00:52:22.000 Instead of because the Nazis and those folks were like, they liked things looking pretty and stuff.

00:52:26.000 And we're like, you know, we're going to fight against that.

00:52:28.000 We're going to make everything look like square boxes and trash.

00:52:30.000 Yeah.

00:52:31.000 And now it looks like square boxes and trash.

00:52:33.000 Yeah, true.

00:52:34.000 Yeah, I mean, I think that I do agree with you guys, like the sameness of all of the, or at least of this particular look, right?

00:52:42.000 Like the fact that it looks like an iHopper, it looks like a friendly's, there's no rustic charm.

00:52:48.000 I mean, I imagine that if I look at this place, I can't imagine what the store would hold.

00:52:53.000 Oh yeah.

00:52:54.000 Like the stores that are attached to Cracker Barrel, they have a bunch of cool knicks, it's a great place to get little gifts or whatever, you know?

00:53:02.000 And I mean, this doesn't look like, and again, I don't know, because this is just the one pick, and I couldn't find anything else to actually give us a better idea, but, well, this one's another.

00:53:14.000 Like, you can't really look at that.

00:53:18.000 See, you got clothing.

00:53:18.000 There it is.

00:53:20.000 You got that's what I'm talking about.

00:53:23.000 That's what America wants.

00:53:24.000 Give America what they want.

00:53:26.000 Yeah.

00:53:26.000 Let's see, where is that?

00:53:27.000 It's that easy.

00:53:28.000 You know, that should mean everyone's line.

00:53:30.000 Give America what they want.

00:53:31.000 Yeah.

00:53:32.000 I mean, but here's a video.

00:53:34.000 My kids had Halloween costumes from Cracker Barrel, and they're adorable costumes.

00:53:38.000 I mean, it's a little reminiscent of the old stuff, but it's not particularly.

00:53:44.000 You know, it could almost be like a lobby and a loft hotel.

00:53:48.000 You feel the lighting should be that good.

00:53:48.000 Yeah.

00:53:51.000 The lighting should be bad.

00:53:51.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:53:55.000 You know, I mean, it's it's much cleaner than most people are used to.

00:53:58.000 Yeah.

00:54:00.000 And I do think that this is, you know, again, you're going to get backlash when you make changes to brands that have been around for a while, but I don't know that, and I don't know that this is something that people are going to be able to get over.

00:54:15.000 Do you guys think that this is going to be something that will affect their attendance, or do you think that if the food is the same, people will be like, whatever?

00:54:21.000 I think we're just being fuddy duddies.

00:54:23.000 I think we might be fuddy duddies, but I feel like older folks who are older than us, like my dad's age, they will be like, what is this?

00:54:30.000 Why is this?

00:54:30.000 I'm not, I don't like this.

00:54:32.000 So I think they might lose the older folks.

00:54:32.000 That's not what I like.

00:54:35.000 And I don't know if the younger hippies, you know, a Gen Z, younger Gen X. are going to come into that.

00:54:40.000 Like nobody, Cracker Barrel's an old person place. 1.00

00:54:43.000 Is it an old person place? 0.99

00:54:44.000 That's from what I mean, that's what I'm saying.

00:54:46.000 Her branding, she's working against like a, like a, like a preconception people have of the restaurant. 0.81

00:54:51.000 Like how many people in their twenty and thirty are like, Let's go to Cracker Barrel tonight.

00:54:55.000 I mean, I'd do that, but that's that's the brand.

00:54:58.000 It's one of the few places around here that I actually like their pancakes.

00:55:01.000 I mean, like Sarah, we brought home a box of the pancake mix because I like the pancakes there.

00:55:07.000 So I'll still go even if it looks bad or it doesn't look like Cracker Barrel.

00:55:11.000 What if they change the food?

00:55:11.000 It sounds like she's getting ready to change the menu.

00:55:13.000 Yeah, then I'm going to change where I'm going to get pancakes then, huh?

00:55:16.000 That would probably do even more damage, honestly.

00:55:19.000 If you change the look, but if you keep the food delicious as it always has been, then maybe, maybe they can, you know, bring in new crowds.

00:55:26.000 Maybe.

00:55:27.000 Yeah.

00:55:28.000 All right.

00:55:29.000 We're going to move on to this next story from the post-millennial.

00:55:33.000 The DHS paints U.S.-Mexico border wall black, so it's too hot to climb.

00:55:40.000 Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noam revealed Tuesday that the southern border wall between the United States and Mexico would be painted black as part of an effort to increase deterrence against illegal crossing.

00:55:51.000 Speaking from Santa Teresa, New Mexico, Noam said the decision was more made.

00:55:55.000 to make the wall hotter under the sun, which would make it more difficult to climb.

00:56:00.000 She also noted that painting the wall black will increase the lifespan of the metal.

00:56:03.000 Noam emphasized that the request came directly from President Trump.

00:56:07.000 If you look at the structure that's behind me, it's high, which makes it very, very difficult to climb, almost impossible.

00:56:12.000 It also goes deep into the ground, which would make it very difficult, if not impossible, to dig under.

00:56:16.000 And today we are also going to be painting it black.

00:56:19.000 We get a little video from Secretary Noam here.

00:56:22.000 Remember that a nation without borders is no nation at all.

00:56:26.000 And we're so thankful that we have a president that understands that.

00:56:28.000 It understands that a secure border is important to our country's future.

00:56:32.000 Now, if you look at the structure that's behind me, it's high, which makes it very, very difficult to climb, almost impossible.

00:56:39.000 It also goes deep into the ground, which would make it very difficult, if not impossible, to dig under.

00:56:44.000 And today, we are also going to be painting it black.

00:56:49.000 That is specifically at the request of the president, who understands that in the hot temperatures down here, when something is painted black, it gets even warmer.

00:56:58.000 And it will make it even harder for people to climb.

00:57:01.000 So we are going to be painting the entire Southern Border Wall black to make sure that we encourage individuals to not come into our country illegally. 1.00

00:57:10.000 Legally, to not break our federal laws, but that they will obey and come to our country the right way so that they can stay and have the opportunity to become United States citizens and pursue the American dream.

00:57:21.000 This is hilarious.

00:57:22.000 I'm surprised she's not wearing painter's overalls.

00:57:26.000 Right?

00:57:26.000 It's like paint splattered on her.

00:57:28.000 She just did it herself. 0.98

00:57:29.000 I don't know why, yeah, she shouldn't be wearing this outfit. 0.99

00:57:31.000 She should have been wearing those overalls. 0.95

00:57:33.000 Who's going to paint it?

00:57:34.000 Illegal aliens? 0.98

00:57:34.000 No. 0.98

00:57:35.000 Sorry.

00:57:35.000 Criminal aliens?

00:57:36.000 You know, what kind of people are they?

00:57:36.000 I don't imagine.

00:57:38.000 It might be robots.

00:57:40.000 Painting robots.

00:57:41.000 I mean, look, how they're such a huge.

00:57:42.000 She's going to paint it herself, I'm telling you.

00:57:44.000 She's going to paint it herself.

00:57:45.000 Exactly right.

00:57:46.000 Look, is this, is, I mean, is this going to actually deter people from climbing the wall, though?

00:57:53.000 Do you think?

00:57:55.000 I don't get the sense that climbing the wall was a big problem.

00:57:58.000 It seems far more common that you hear about people digging under the wall and tunnels, cartels moving drugs that way as opposed to— Yeah, the tunnels, absolutely.

00:58:12.000 An angle grinder. 1.00

00:58:14.000 You could just get that bitch down. 1.00

00:58:15.000 Yeah, I mean. 1.00

00:58:16.000 You write a hole in it and you're fine.

00:58:17.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:58:18.000 I mean, I'm not sure how much of the wall has actually been built.

00:58:21.000 I know that there are sections, but it's certainly not from the Gulf to the Pacific, that's not at all the case.

00:58:29.000 So, You know, they build it, but there's still a lot.

00:58:32.000 I think that it's my sense that the effect of people not coming into the country anymore, like the amount of or the fewer numbers of people that are coming in are because of policy and less because of physical barriers or what have you.

00:58:49.000 Because they know they're going to get sent away right away.

00:58:51.000 I mean, the more you make it difficult for people to actually come in and if you have policies that are like, hey, you have if you get caught, we're just going to send you out as opposed to you get caught and you get a hearing date when people know they can just disappear into the interior.

00:58:51.000 Yeah.

00:59:07.000 That's the kind of thing that actually deters people, right?

00:59:09.000 I mean, well, and I mean, to me, this has been a problem like my whole life.

00:59:17.000 We've never fixed this problem.

00:59:19.000 People want to be in this country and they want to be here, most of them legally.

00:59:24.000 And I don't know why we can't and why can't the Republicans figure out a way to give people an easier way to get work visas.

00:59:33.000 And I mean, we did it in the past with Ellis Island and that's how my family got here.

00:59:39.000 I don't know why we can't fix this issue because nobody wants the idea of the coyotes taking people because all the coyotesotes are going to do, like in the people that are coyotes.

00:59:49.000 They're going to throw up drones. 1.00

00:59:50.000 They're going to see where the wall is built and they're just going to find a way around the wall and go in a different direction.

00:59:56.000 And you have people being human trafficked because they want a better life and they're desperate.

01:00:02.000 We should do a better job of making it easier for people who are desperate to have a better life to have an appointment, to do the paperwork and to be here.

01:00:13.000 I have a different view on immigration personally, but you were going to go ahead. 0.86

01:00:17.000 Back in the day, Ellis Island, you know, what they had like five thousand a month or something great, you know, not a lot.

01:00:17.000 Just, yes.

01:00:24.000 Joe Biden's 10 million in the last couple of years.

01:00:26.000 So it's a lot harder, a lot more people, a lot more, you need a lot more infrastructure.

01:00:29.000 I agree with you.

01:00:29.000 I'm okay.

01:00:30.000 A lot of mismanagement over decades.

01:00:32.000 Yes.

01:00:34.000 So that's a challenge when you're trying to have people come in legally and then you have this enormous amount of legal, illegal, illegal people coming in.

01:00:42.000 It's tough to, you know, make it work together.

01:00:45.000 We're just, you know, it's hard.

01:00:46.000 They can, they can make it work.

01:00:48.000 No, they can't make it work.

01:00:49.000 I always thought that the difficulty to get here was a feature and not a bug because they wanted the people that could afford it and the people they wanted people to bring the best and the brightest here.

01:00:59.000 If it's super easy for everyone to get in, then it becomes a ch detriment to the country because the people who come in become a net negative for society rather than if you make it more difficult, more expensive, the people that come in are going to add to the economy rather than detract from it. 0.99

01:01:13.000 Like brain drain.

01:01:14.000 And it's, and that's kind of interesting because, like you said, you worked under the Bush administration and it's in my lifetime seeing the way that politics has changed on the topic of immigration with both Republicans and Democrats at least paying lip service to the idea of fixing the border back.

01:01:30.000 I mean, even Obama did in the early days of his first term, talked about strengthening the border, border security and things like that.

01:01:38.000 And then 2016 rolls around and it's changed.

01:01:41.000 completely, but it's a much more polarizing issue because it's now downstream from the race issue.

01:01:46.000 And it's how different was it back then?

01:01:50.000 Was that even something that was really talked about a lot during the not really as much when I was I was there, second half of the second term, so other things were kind of going on, but but I mean, I remember growing up like Regan deciding to do Amnesty because we were then going to fix it and then we didn't fix it.

01:02:08.000 And we've we have to come up with the right way.

01:02:12.000 And I think you're right to to be able to say, look, we have room for X number of all these different skill sets, all these different backgrounds., and we have to come up with a way to if people want to be here legally to figure out how to make that work.

01:02:26.000 And you see other countries, it's very hard to immigrate there.

01:02:30.000 So, for example, Italy, you have to pass an Italian fluency test.

01:02:35.000 You have to show that you're going to have work to do.

01:02:37.000 You have to show that you're buying property.

01:02:40.000 So to your point, there's different policies that are applied.

01:02:44.000 We have to figure out in the United States what do we want to be and how do we welcome different walks of life and how do we do that in a way where they can be legal and not be in the shadows.

01:02:56.000 We can't fix this issue from a policy perspective.

01:02:58.000 As you said, there's a deterrent right now Because we say if we catch you here illegally, you won't be allowed to apply for legal immigration.

01:03:06.000 But we have to find out who we want to be as a nation and then figure out how we're going to, from a policy, allow people to be here legally or deter them from trying to be here illegally.

01:03:18.000 Because there is human trafficking and suffering that goes on because we haven't we haven't made up our mind what we want to be.

01:03:25.000 Well, I mean, so to that point, I do think that the American people generally have an opinion that is fairly clear, or at least the majority of them do.

01:03:33.000 You know, when it comes to illegal immigration, people don't like want to have illegal immigration.

01:03:41.000 They want to make sure that the border's secure.

01:03:44.000 They understand the risks associated with illegal immigration, whether it be human trafficking, drug smuggling, possibly smuggling terrorists in the United States.

01:03:54.000 And when you're dealing with probably 15 million or so in four years, you're talking about the possibility that a foreign country could have smuggled a literal army into the United States.

01:04:07.000 And that's a problem.

01:04:08.000 Yeah.

01:04:09.000 And America's the only country because of the way politics are here, mostly from the left, that is, they're not every other country's allowed.

01:04:17.000 to act in their own self interest when it comes to immigration policy.

01:04:20.000 America is the only country where you're supposed to be allowed to be here just by virtue of America existing and other countries not being as good as America, which is also being propagated by the people that are saying that America is awful.

01:04:32.000 The people that are saying America is awful are telling you that these people coming from these other countries should be able to come to our supposedly awful country because it's better than the country they live in. 0.89

01:04:43.000 But whoa, you can't call their country awful because it's racist to do so.

01:04:47.000 And I think that there's a lot of people that are just fed up with the double standard for a lot of that stuff.

01:04:52.000 And with the way that I mean, this whole thing came up last year.

01:04:55.000 with the H1B visa discussion with Elon Musk and Americans being fed up with how they feel that work is being outsourced in many ways on top of all that.

01:05:03.000 And it has been very, very long time since Americans have been allowed to put their own interests first.

01:05:08.000 And it's like, look, we've got ten thousand issues we need to figure out in this country, we'll worry about, you know, legal immigration being more, you know, we're going to focus on the illegal immigration now, put a stop to that. 0.76

01:05:21.000 We'll focus on getting other people the opportunity to come here once we secure everyone else in this country.

01:05:26.000 And I don't think that there's anything inherently wrong with that.

01:05:28.000 I get the perspective of people that want it.

01:05:30.000 And I do believe that.

01:05:32.000 I think one of the most important things about legal immigration is that it encourages people to come here that actually have a strong desire to be here and they want to hold American values and all that represents.

01:05:42.000 But right now, we've got a lot bigger fish to fry, or at least that feels like that to me.

01:05:47.000 We do.

01:05:48.000 And I will say for people who came here the right way, filled out the paperwork, paid the money, did everything, became citizens, they have said they don't like the idea that people are here illegally and that they can jump in front of the line.

01:06:02.000 Peggy Noonan wrote an opinion on this many years ago where she said the reason why illegal immigration, one of the things that's really really bad about it is the first thing the person has done is they broke our nation's laws.

01:06:16.000 Yeah, I mean, that again, that's something that the American people are generally on board with.

01:06:20.000 They want to see the immigration situation fixed.

01:06:23.000 And to be fair, like Donald Trump has really done a lot to fix it.

01:06:28.000 Like if the, if the, if the Trump administration standard were the standard for the past five, six years, we wouldn't be in the situation that we are now.

01:06:38.000 We wouldn't have probably 15 million illegals.

01:06:41.000 There wouldn't have been almost half a million people trafficked here every year for the past, for the four years that the Biden administration was in power.

01:06:50.000 There was a gas station down by the castle that was owned by this family from Tibet, and they would show me videos of people getting caught immigrating here illegally, and they were pissed.

01:07:01.000 Like they didn't like it.

01:07:03.000 They didn't support it because they spent, you know, a good amount of all their family's capital to get them here so they could start a business and be, you know, standing members of society.

01:07:14.000 So that's also, again, there was a did you see the post the other day on X from PBS that was like, X amount of support immigration?

01:07:23.000 And everyone knew that it was weasel words, BS.

01:07:26.000 Yes, that, you know, did you actually ask them, did they mean illegal or legal? 0.99

01:07:31.000 But that's just more of the same garbage that we're getting from the media. 0.94

01:07:35.000 That's why people don't trust them. 0.99

01:07:38.000 The left loves using we're a nation of immigrants.

01:07:41.000 You know, nothing against Ellis Island, but that's very false.

01:07:44.000 A lot of folks moved here from European lands to get away from religious persecution, but also to colonize, to expand themselves, to expand their future, not to be some multiculturalism state land.

01:07:56.000 They came here because they want to spread themselves and their family.

01:07:59.000 So they're not here being an immigrant, they're colonizing. 1.00

01:08:01.000 We're a nation of colonizers, just like Europe and England. 0.93

01:08:05.000 So the lie of that we're a nation of immigrants, sure. 0.94

01:08:08.000 Sure, whatever, but that's not true.

01:08:11.000 You can say that, but it's very false because people came here because they wanted to be something, they wanted to venture and be forth and, you know, love life.

01:08:17.000 Yeah, I mean, look, if you're coming to the United States because you want to do something and you're in a place where you don't have the economic freedom or you don't have the ability to do it, that's one thing, but if you're just looking to come to the United States so that way you can make an economic, you can get onto some kind of support.

01:08:36.000 plan that the federal government offers or whatever, that's not the kind of person that you want in the country at all.

01:08:42.000 And it's not racist to say we don't want to take people into the country just so they can get benefits from the United States. 0.90

01:08:50.000 You look at what's going on in the UK right now, and there are a lot of people that are they're not going there because they want to be like the people in Great Britain.

01:08:58.000 They don't look at themselves as anything other than economic migrants. 0.98

01:09:03.000 They're going there because they can get on to the benefit roles and they can get something from the country.

01:09:10.000 That's it.

01:09:11.000 And they will they tell you that.

01:09:13.000 They don't go there because they think Britain is this great place.

01:09:16.000 They don't go there because they have they believe in the history of the British Empire or because they have some kind of affinity for the royal family or anything like that.

01:09:26.000 They go there because of the benefits.

01:09:28.000 It may be actually anti royal family from some of the YouTube videos that I see.

01:09:33.000 It seems so.

01:09:34.000 And that is something that is abhorrent to a country that is a free country or ostensibly a free country, right?

01:09:42.000 You don't want to have people that are coming to the United States just because they're looking for an economic benefit. 1.00

01:09:48.000 And that era of immigration, the Ellis Island era of immigration, it's from a time when there was America was seen as something to aspire to and there was a lot of values that we all coalesced around that's largely been dissolved as this country.'s kind of become more fractured,

01:10:05.000 whether it's on demographic change, political change, different ideologies, people don't have that same, you know, melting pot view of what America is to coalesce around as a place where everyone can come together under the banner of the United States of America.

01:10:21.000 We're largely fractured now, so all this stuff becomes infinitely more complicated when you don't even have a shared value system.

01:10:27.000 Yeah, so we're going to jump to some breaking news right now.

01:10:30.000 Nick Sorter's reporting and we've got a clip from Fox News.

01:10:34.000 The Trump administration is revoking license of the employer of the foreigner who killed three people while you turning a semi truck in in Florida.

01:10:41.000 Good hold employers accountable and they'll stop working with illegals. 1.00

01:10:44.000 This is something that, well, let's go ahead and love this, but yeah, this is, this speaks right to my baby.

01:10:49.000 Where you had an illegal alien truck driver that got a commercial driver's license in the state of California employed by a California company killed three people in Florida.

01:11:01.000 This guy didn't even speak English.

01:11:03.000 We're bringing him up on charges.

01:11:05.000 He's going to face a lot.

01:11:06.000 And I can announce, Jesse, that I said initially the company needs to be held accountable and we've been working with the federal government and they are pulling that company's license to do business because you can't employ someone who cannot read the road signs for you.

01:11:22.000 We have a problem where I've said this a couple of times on the show.

01:11:25.000 My personal policy preferences when it comes to illegal immigration, right?

01:11:29.000 You obviously you shut down the border.

01:11:31.000 If you pick up an illegal, you send them back.

01:11:34.000 But there's something that needs to be done about the companies that are actually hiring illegals because they're the draw, right? 1.00

01:11:42.000 If you, you've got, and this is, it's good to see this happening that the Trump administration is going to revoke the license.

01:11:49.000 I personally would go further.

01:11:50.000 I want to see the people that are actually owners of the company.

01:11:54.000 I want to see them put in jail and I want to see their company taken from them.

01:11:58.000 So I have a question, like, are they not doing the i nine process? 0.82

01:12:01.000 Like, I'm an employer.

01:12:03.000 I have to do an i nine for everyone that I hire. 0.72

01:12:06.000 Apparently not.

01:12:07.000 I'm going to search that, but I don't think in California they have that rule and regulation as far as like because they have it and this company's hiring people to travel, you know, across state lines.

01:12:17.000 So obviously the the commerce clause is involved.

01:12:20.000 So the federal government does have jurisdiction.

01:12:22.000 But if you hire people that are illegal, you should lose your pro, your business like totally in totality because that's the only way that you're going to make it not worth hiring illegals. 1.00

01:12:36.000 This guy couldn't read the signs.

01:12:37.000 They did a test on you.

01:12:39.000 He only identified two of ten different signs that they showed him.

01:12:43.000 How does he have a driver's license?

01:12:45.000 That's something, well, California gives driver's license out.

01:12:48.000 He can't speak English, which I think the United States should have.

01:12:52.000 He literally passed a sign test in California.

01:12:54.000 No, he didn't.

01:12:56.000 He probably didn't pass it.

01:12:57.000 That's the point.

01:12:58.000 Like, he probably wasn't tested properly or he did, or someone just said, well, you know, here you go because we feel bad for immigrants or I don't want to get called a racist or this is just the policy of California.

01:13:08.000 I don't know the details about how he actually got it, but on the site they gave him a test.

01:13:15.000 He couldn't read signs.

01:13:16.000 He can't speak English, which is something that I've been railing about that the, and I've, it was before the Trump administration said that they were going to make, Donald Trump said that he was going to, he made that executive order that said that English is the official language of the United States.

01:13:31.000 That needs to be done by Congress, and there should be no paperwork produced by the federal government in any other language except for English.

01:13:41.000 This is exactly why he couldn't read the signs.

01:13:44.000 He didn't, I mean, whether or not he knew he was supposed to get, you know, whether or not he knew it was illegal for a U-turn doesn't matter, but he's he was here illegally.

01:13:53.000 He couldn't read, couldn't speak English, couldn't read the signs.

01:13:57.000 The company Oh, sorry, sorry.

01:13:59.000 I was going to say, like, I brought this stuff up.

01:14:00.000 He crossed here illegally.

01:14:02.000 He was fast tracked for deportation in 2018.

01:14:04.000 Like, the stuff about this guy goes on and on.

01:14:06.000 Like, I read somewhere else just recently.

01:14:08.000 I was trying to get information about some of the stuff he did.

01:14:10.000 Release on five thousand dollar immigration.

01:14:12.000 He actually had to know what they were hiring.

01:14:14.000 It's crazy.

01:14:14.000 Like, he didn't, he got most of the questions wrong on his tests for the CDL itself.

01:14:19.000 So, like, he, he wasn't supposed to drive at all.

01:14:22.000 This guy and people have lost their lives because of it.

01:14:26.000 The guy should get the guy should go to jail for the rest of his life, the driver and the company that hired him., they should lose their business, not just their license, but all his property, like all the business property.

01:14:38.000 They have no problem, and I don't have a problem with this either.

01:14:42.000 They have no problem taking all kinds of property away from people that are dealing with drugs.

01:14:46.000 They have no problem taking all kinds of property away from people that have acquired their wealth through fraud.

01:14:54.000 They take all that away.

01:14:55.000 Why not from people that hired illegals? 0.99

01:14:58.000 If you hire illegals, you should lose your property because that's the only way to make sure that companies don't think it's worth hiring illegals. 1.00

01:15:08.000 What state did he do those?

01:15:10.000 Those, first of all, the poor families.

01:15:13.000 Yeah.

01:15:13.000 That lost three loved ones.

01:15:15.000 Like, we don't want to roll over the fact that we have families who have people that are not coming home and they don't get to hug them again, and that is horrible.

01:15:25.000 So did this happen in Florida?

01:15:26.000 It happened in Florida, yeah.

01:15:27.000 So it will be interesting to see from a court perspective because this happened, so there's the federal piece, then there's the Florida court piece.

01:15:35.000 It will be interesting to see, can you try the owner of the company for vehicular manslaughter?

01:15:42.000 Of three.

01:15:42.000 I love to see.

01:15:43.000 Basically, it's vehicular manslaughter of three individuals.

01:15:46.000 And so it will be interesting to see.

01:15:48.000 Because basically he put this person behind the wheel and shouldn't have.

01:15:53.000 And I'm guessing he's making a lot less money than people who are here legally, this employee.

01:16:00.000 Pardon me?

01:16:00.000 Like I'm guessing this employee was making a lot less money because he was here.

01:16:04.000 I don't know.

01:16:05.000 Like the other thing about most of this issue with a lot of maybe not with this one specifically is like because of a mixture of like far left, we don't believe in borders policy and bleeding heart liberalism, which tells you that, you know, we have to let everyone in because they have been oppressed, you know, they are oppressed elsewhere.

01:16:24.000 We need to let them in and invite them here., not even encourage them to come here legally. 1.00

01:16:30.000 You're creating a slave class of people who do not have to be paid at the regular rates.

01:16:36.000 But like Phil said, if these companies can bring them in illegally and pay them under the table, they will.

01:16:40.000 They'll always try to get away with it.

01:16:42.000 And it's been nefariously pushed forward in a way now where it's shown as a good thing to create an entire class of people who are ostensibly slaves.

01:16:50.000 Yeah, Democrats love the caste system. 0.99

01:16:52.000 Like they love the caste system. 0.90

01:16:54.000 But answer the question, yes.

01:16:56.000 And nine is required in California to answer the question.

01:17:01.000 Just so we're one hundred percent on that chat.

01:17:03.000 So they're just illegal.

01:17:04.000 Then this whole process.

01:17:06.000 And that's, if I understand correctly., that's fairly typical.

01:17:06.000 Yes.

01:17:10.000 And if, again, if the fine is so minimal, they'll just risk it.

01:17:13.000 Absolutely.

01:17:13.000 That's, and that's, again, that's why I think that there should be the most harsh punishments imaginable.

01:17:19.000 You should lose your entire business.

01:17:22.000 And the same goes for people that rent to illegals. 0.82

01:17:25.000 If you were found to have rented an apartment to an illegal, you lose your property.

01:17:29.000 You lose that rental location.

01:17:32.000 I thought that was harsh at first the other day, but I'm like, I'm totally a board brother.

01:17:35.000 The whole, you know what I mean?

01:17:36.000 That's Go America, F these people.

01:17:38.000 the whole point is you need to disincentivize people from coming here.

01:17:42.000 And this is actually the more compassionate way because now we've got so many people that are seeing videos of ICE going and raiding apartments and picking people up and you have people freaking out because ICE is hurting people and they're tearing families apart and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:18:01.000 If you don't want that to happen, the next best thing is deterring people from coming here, making the people that are here illegally, right, instead of going to pick them up and having ICE have to put hands on and fighting with people or grabbing them after they come out of court for their hearing or whatever which is something that the left is freaking out about now make it so that way they people are like, you're not, if you can't prove to me that you're here legally,

01:18:30.000 I'm not renting to you because I don't want to lose my whole apartment building.

01:18:34.000 Take it from them.

01:18:35.000 Shipping them all to Minnesota because I've seen videos of people living in Minnesota and it's freezing out and they're like from Africa. 1.00

01:18:40.000 They're like, I can't live in this hot and cold weather.

01:18:41.000 You're kidding me?

01:18:42.000 I don't know.

01:18:43.000 Look man, if you're putting hands on them, don't, don't send them to Minnesota, send them to home. 0.99

01:18:47.000 The point, you know what I mean?

01:18:47.000 Why?

01:18:48.000 But the point being, the more and the more you do this, if you, if people that are here illegally can't find places to live, can't find places to work, and then people that are outside of the US that are looking to come here, if they know they can't find a place to get a job.

01:19:03.000 or if they know they won't be able to get a place to live, they won't come.

01:19:08.000 The people that are here will be like, I can't work here.

01:19:10.000 I need to go home.

01:19:11.000 Another thing is tax remittances at 95%.

01:19:13.000 If you want to send, come here, work and then send money back to your home, your country of origin, why should we allow that? 0.95

01:19:21.000 We've got $37 trillion in debt.

01:19:25.000 Take that money from them.

01:19:26.000 The government has no problem doing any of this stuff.

01:19:31.000 They do it to people all the time.

01:19:32.000 Civil asset forfeiture.

01:19:34.000 If you've got cash in your car and you get pulled over because you're going to buy a car or for whatever reason, the government will.

01:19:41.000 just, you know, the police station will just take your cash.

01:19:43.000 They'll say, that's ours now.

01:19:46.000 If the government can do that, there shouldn't be any problem with taxing remittances at 95%.

01:19:51.000 If the government can take your property because they think it's ill gotten gains from whatever reason, drugs from any kind of illegal, illicit activity, take their property for hiring, for employing or hiring illegals as well.

01:20:06.000 This is crazy.

01:20:07.000 I did a little bit digging and I found this article from June 20 or it's updated on the 25th of June in 2025.

01:20:13.000 And this guy, Raman Dylan, I guess a Punjabi guy, was talking to Joe Biden said that when they rolled this Biden here's trucking action plan out with his administration, it was a coming crisis.

01:20:23.000 So this is in June 25 when this is written and this happened in 2019.

01:20:26.000 I highlighted this thing right here where he basically this is the guy, I think this is him right here, who's also Sikh, like the guy who was driver, but he points out that they repeatedly tried to tell the Biden administration that the bigger problem is you're just issuing these licenses when they don't know English enough to pass the exam.

01:20:41.000 He's like, give me a reason why you wanted to test in Punjabi.

01:20:44.000 Most of the schools in California have opened schools in Utah because in Utah there's third party testing.

01:20:48.000 Like he literally pointed out that this was going to happen a month or so before, if not like a while before, and like here we are, it's happening.

01:20:55.000 All the stuff that they've been saying for so so long.

01:20:57.000 It's all literally coming to fruition.

01:20:59.000 All the stuff we said is this is going to be bad.

01:21:00.000 This is going to be bad, it's all.

01:21:03.000 And whether it's an illegal committing murder, rapes and murders, which you see, you hear stories frequently about, or whether it's an illegal here that gets into a car accident, or any number of other terrible things that happen that wouldn't have happened if that person wasn't here.

01:21:21.000 Forget about any of the other stuff, not whether it's intentional or a crime or whatever, just the fact that because that person was inside the United States, these things happened, whether they're crimes or accidents, those are things that do not have to happen.

01:21:37.000 They did not have to happen.

01:21:38.000 If the government had done what it's supposed to do, which is enforce the border, enforce the restriction on people coming into the United States and actually follow the law, and Democrats love to say no one's above the law, but they will let foreign immigrants, criminal aliens, they will let them skirt the law so that way they can have more people. 0.98

01:22:01.000 And I truly believe this is the case.

01:22:03.000 The reason they want to have more people in the United States is for the census so that way they can get more representation for Democrats in the Congress.

01:22:12.000 That was the whole point of it.

01:22:16.000 The Bureau of Health and Human Services had a program called the Refugee Resettlement Program where they would ship people in.

01:22:24.000 They would literally put them on planes, ship them all over the country, ship them to purple states and ship them to blue states again because they want those census numbers.

01:22:32.000 It wasn't about as much as I do think that there were probably people that are voting illegally, I don't think that they were illegally voting in numbers great enough to actually affect the outcome of the elections, but I don't think that that was the plan.

01:22:45.000 The plan was to get the kind of representation in Congress because of the census and through the census.

01:22:51.000 You know, if you increase the number of people in blue states, you increase the.

01:22:55.000 number of people in purple states.

01:22:57.000 You can get better representation on the Democrat side in Congress, you know, when the census comes through, because the way that the census is done or the way that the representation in Congress is counted is not by citizens.

01:23:10.000 It's, they just count the people.

01:23:12.000 So it doesn't matter if you're citizens.

01:23:14.000 It's unimportant.

01:23:15.000 So I think that the repercussions for hiring or...

01:23:31.000 I love the fact that the Trump administration is going to revoke the license of this company that hired this guy, but I don't think it's enough.

01:23:38.000 They should take their property.

01:23:39.000 They should take all their trucks.

01:23:40.000 That's why you're going to be working for Christy Noam, my friend.

01:23:43.000 That's why she's going to show up in a trucker hat. 1.00

01:23:46.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:23:46.000 Look at how little she's started on.

01:23:49.000 Absolutely.

01:23:50.000 Before I move on, to get some facts right.

01:23:53.000 Out of basically 2,000 miles of the Mexican US border, we have about 100 miles of border done.

01:23:59.000 It's not a lot.

01:24:00.000 So what about we get the rest of the border built?

01:24:02.000 Then we'll worry about what color it is.

01:24:05.000 I could I rock with that.

01:24:07.000 And then in the words of a beautiful woman.

01:24:11.000 who has my heart and soul, Kamala Harris, don't come.

01:24:14.000 Don't come.

01:24:16.000 You know, so all right, we're going to jump to this next story from the post millennial breaking.

01:24:21.000 Woke Target CEO resigns amid boycotts, declining sales.

01:24:26.000 Target announced Wednesday that longtime chief executive Brian Cornell will step down next year as the retailer deals with sales declines and stacking controversies from both sides of the political aisle.

01:24:36.000 Chief operating officer Michael Fittical has been named as his successor reports CNN.

01:24:42.000 Cornell took over in 2014 and was credited with bringing life to the brand a decade ago, but has struggled in recent years as Target faced drops in revenues in the post pandemic economy.

01:24:53.000 In the first quarter of twenty twenty five, sales fell more sharply and executives have warned that the downward trend is likely to continue throughout the end of the year.

01:25:01.000 The retailer, which operates nearly two thousand stores nationwide, has blamed consumer spending amid economic uncertainty and tariffs.

01:25:09.000 The company has been hit by boycotts that have taken its toll.

01:25:13.000 Customers objected to its diversity and inclusion initiatives, which the company paired back in January after criticism from conservatives and the White House.

01:25:22.000 At the same time, Target has faced backlash from progressives.

01:25:26.000 The Pride Reporter reported in July that many black Americans were boycotting large retailers including Target and Amazon, while a petition drive earlier in the year gathered more than 250,000 signatures from customers, promising to stop shopping at Target.

01:25:39.000 The cultural battles intensified with the release of Pride merchandise in 2023, including children's items and tuck friendly swimsuits, which triggered a conservative lead boycott.

01:25:49.000 That campaign, combined with a resurface 2015 advertisement featuring children in a Pride Month promotion, fueled further outrage.

01:25:57.000 The video, which ends with the line We're not born with pride, we take pride in celebrating who we were born to be, has circulated widely online in recent weeks, renewing criticism from opponents.

01:26:08.000 It is never a good idea to have children involved with LGBT stuff because children are not sexual beings. 1.00

01:26:20.000 That should be something that is as obvious as any other obvious thing, as plain as the nose on my face, right?

01:26:28.000 Like it is super simple.

01:26:30.000 You do not, a business, nobody should be sexualizing children.

01:26:36.000 And the LGBT lobby, the LGBT groups, that is their whole existence is based on sexualization. 1.00

01:26:43.000 That's why people had such a legitimate and negative reaction to things like LGBT story or drag queen storytime.

01:26:53.000 Why does a drag queen want to read stories to children? 1.00

01:26:57.000 Like the children don't need a drag queen to read stories to them. 1.00

01:27:00.000 Why are drag queens demanding access to children? 1.00

01:27:05.000 The response from the parents was correct. 0.73

01:27:08.000 This is insane.

01:27:09.000 They look like fairies. 1.00

01:27:10.000 I mean, answer your question. 0.95

01:27:12.000 They look like weird, crazy beings in this world. 0.97

01:27:14.000 They look like monsters to me. 0.82

01:27:15.000 So like you're going to go outside a Target right now and there's going to be people celebrating.

01:27:19.000 There's going to be like a conservative person and like a blue haired person.

01:27:24.000 They're both going to be be cheering for the demise of Target.

01:27:27.000 It's the first time they've had something in common in a long time.

01:27:29.000 But it's not blue hair, it's apparently black Americans.

01:27:33.000 I mean, I saw a lot of different progressive people for a long time have been talking about boycotting Target because of their rolling back of DEI policies.

01:27:42.000 She was painting.

01:27:46.000 I got this, just got this from Kellen, sorry.

01:27:48.000 She had the paint roll.

01:27:48.000 Of course she was.

01:27:49.000 Wait, wait.

01:27:50.000 She was, she knows?

01:27:51.000 Yeah, she was actually, she was actually painting.

01:27:54.000 You know, hopefully.

01:27:55.000 Wait, seriously, or was that AI?

01:27:57.000 Kellen sent it?

01:27:58.000 Yeah.

01:27:59.000 Okay, if it's real, then she did like three, she did this three times and then the day photo.

01:28:03.000 I think it's real.

01:28:04.000 Hold on, I'll send it to Surge.

01:28:08.000 But Target's not a big, it's always suburban white women I've ever seen there. 1.00

01:28:14.000 That's what Target is, and that's what it's always been.

01:28:16.000 I don't know if you have any opinions on Target.

01:28:18.000 Do you shop at Target for yourself and your young kids?

01:28:20.000 It's not my, it's not my go-to place.

01:28:24.000 I mean, I go there if I have to, but typically I Shop at Surge.

01:28:29.000 Like if I need school supplies, we typically pick Walmart first over Target.

01:28:33.000 You have good decor.

01:28:34.000 You have ever gone to the core section?

01:28:36.000 Of Target?

01:28:37.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:28:37.000 That's the best thing.

01:28:38.000 I have been in there.

01:28:39.000 They have the Chip and Joanna Gaines stuff is in the home decor section, right?

01:28:44.000 I think there's a little controversy with that.

01:28:44.000 I don't know.

01:28:46.000 I'm not a bit like, yeah.

01:28:48.000 Yeah, like it's, I mean, Target's been rolling, like, has had problems.

01:28:53.000 I'm guessing Amazon played a huge role in Target's seeming to have a business too more than anything.

01:28:58.000 Like, do you think it's more than the boycotts and stuff?

01:29:00.000 Yeah, oh yeah.

01:29:01.000 I mean, I I tend to feel like, like, outside of Bud Light, it feels like every boycott falls very, very flat most of the time.

01:29:08.000 It's, it's real man.

01:29:09.000 Oh really?

01:29:11.000 You know, like, she did that twice, and then she's like, get this thing off me. 0.99

01:29:14.000 Maybe she's got an extension, bro.

01:29:15.000 She's like, did you get the photo?

01:29:17.000 I got the photo.

01:29:18.000 She is the best, she's my favorite cosplayer.

01:29:20.000 Yeah.

01:29:20.000 She is.

01:29:21.000 She is.

01:29:22.000 She really is.

01:29:23.000 She wears a skin suit of ten thousand different jobs. 0.98

01:29:27.000 I love it.

01:29:28.000 I love her.

01:29:29.000 In full makeup, every time.

01:29:30.000 Yes, yes.

01:29:31.000 The South Park nailed it for her.

01:29:33.000 Well, there you go.

01:29:33.000 Yeah.

01:29:35.000 But the, so the, the stuff about Target, right, like they're getting hit from both sides because there were, first there were the people that were, in my opinion, legitimately, yeah, legitimately outraged about the LGBT stuff that they were putting up. 0.50

01:29:49.000 A lot of the, the artists that they had designing some of the LGBT stuff for, again, for that were for children, right?

01:29:57.000 I don't think the tux stuff was actually the tux swimsuits that they were talking about.

01:30:00.000 I don't think that was actually for children, but they were on sale near the children's stuff.

01:30:06.000 But like the the designs, there was some really questionable designs that the artist had done in other contexts as well.

01:30:14.000 And of course, people went and they found it.

01:30:16.000 A lot of it was a lot of Satanist stuff and a lot of a lot of some really, really things that like, look, I'm a 50-year-old guy that's like, I'm from, I'm in a metal band and my background is in some of the most offensive death metal from the 90s.

01:30:33.000 So it doesn't shock me.

01:30:34.000 But, you know, when you're dealing with parents that have children at Target and they're bu going to buy stuff.

01:30:42.000 They're going to be selective about what kind of things they want to see their kids on.

01:30:46.000 And it makes sense.

01:30:48.000 Where is that thing you had, Serge?

01:30:49.000 That was No, you're right.

01:30:50.000 Because I mean, when you do go into a Target for school supplies, because you get the list, this is back to school time, right?

01:30:56.000 And so, and I don't know when this display was happening, but typically when you walk in the front door, to the left is where the children's section usually is, is towards the front.

01:31:06.000 And you have to walk past the children's section to get to the school supplies, usually, at least the stores in North Carolina.

01:31:12.000 I just feel like, look, post pandemic, people were, people were kind of.

01:31:17.000 programmed out of shopping in stores.

01:31:19.000 Amazon has taken over a huge amount of the marketplace.

01:31:23.000 I just feel like that more than these boycotts, which I bet you if you went on the street tomorrow and you asked a bunch of normies like what they think of Target, they're not going to bring up tucking swimsuits and they're not going to bring up DEI policies, they're going to say, I go to Amazon.

01:31:36.000 No, well, I tell you, it is true, but I do think like Target's delivery service, like it is every bit as fast and as quality as Amazon.

01:31:45.000 Amazon's easier because of the app, I think.

01:31:48.000 But the service from Target is very good.

01:31:52.000 So from the post millennium, they were saying at the same time, Target has has faced backlash from the progressives.

01:31:56.000 The Guardian reported in July that many black Americans were booking, boycotting large retailers including Target and Amazon.

01:32:01.000 While a petition drive earlier in the year gathered more than 250,000 signatures to stop to 250,000 signatures from consumers pledging to stop shopping at Target.

01:32:09.000 Look, that's a lot of the boycott against the ending of DEI stuff.

01:32:14.000 Yes, right.

01:32:14.000 So progressives are saying, look, if you're not going to basically, you know, use unfair hiring practices, we're not going to shop at your store.

01:32:24.000 I don't imagine just because of numbers, right?

01:32:28.000 The number of people that would be shopping at Target, like the number of black Americicans that there are in comparison to the number of white and Hispanic and Asian Americans. 0.97

01:32:38.000 I don't think that this is actually a compelling boycott.

01:32:41.000 This is probably something that they're going to make a bunch of noise about, but I can't imagine that this actually has an effect on the sales that Target has.

01:32:49.000 It does better for your internet engagement if you want to talk about this stuff than it does actually affect their bottom line for the most part.

01:32:57.000 At least I would imagine that that's true.

01:32:59.000 And knowing just black people in general, they are not LGBTQ AI plus friendly. 0.96

01:33:05.000 Yeah.

01:33:06.000 They are, you know, they are that is not their cup of tea.

01:33:10.000 So if they're going to boycott Target, it would be more for the Tuck friendly, for them walking into the stores.

01:33:15.000 If they go into the stores ever, it says Trans people exists, we are here now, today.

01:33:19.000 And it's like, it's a petition.

01:33:21.000 It's like a change.org petition has changed exactly zero things in the history of the world.

01:33:26.000 So I don't think people are buying that.

01:33:28.000 I think that the internet becoming a more prominent place to shop has taken more of that.

01:33:33.000 Yeah.

01:33:33.000 Well, we've got to.

01:33:34.000 Thank you, right?

01:33:35.000 Well, and isn't the American consumer pulling back a little?

01:33:38.000 Have there been some discussions around buy now pay later plans and also, you know, pulling back a little on spending.

01:33:47.000 So I wonder if we compared Target in store sales to Walmart in store sales and other kinds of similar retail, if that's down.

01:33:57.000 And I think you're right, the online shopping, it's a thing.

01:34:01.000 So there are certain things that people are just going to buy online now because they got used to it during the pandemic.

01:34:06.000 Well, yeah, and like a big part of the selling point point for women, like for women, was like, we go for one thing and I leave with two hundred dollars worth of stuff, right?

01:34:13.000 But if they're not going to the store at all anymore because they're staying home and they're buying their stuff there, I mean, certainly, you'll still get the ones that go do that, but just not in the numbers that you were getting before. 0.93

01:34:24.000 Yeah, freaking broads.

01:34:28.000 Thank you for that, I think that would help out. 0.96

01:34:31.000 Yeah, I think we've got time for one more.

01:34:33.000 Do we have time for one more story here?

01:34:36.000 I'm not sure that I don't know.

01:34:39.000 Well, let's dive into it real quick.

01:34:41.000 From the New York Post, ex Space Force Sergeant Oris Shure sentenced to fifty four years in prison for fatally shooting suspected teen car thief.

01:34:50.000 A former U.S. Space Force sergeant who fired multiple rounds at two suspected car jackers outside his home killing a fourteen year old has been sentenced to over half a century in jail.

01:35:00.000 Oris Shure, twenty nine, became emotional as he apologized for murdering fourteen year old Xavier Kirk before he was sentenced to fifty four years in prison for the twenty twenty three fatal shooting, the Adams Broomfield County's District Attorney's Office announced.

01:35:14.000 I'm sorry for the events that occurred that night, for the pain, for the grief, and trauma that have followed, and for the impact that my case had on so many lives, a tearful Shurr told Aurora, Colorado courtroom on August 15.

01:35:26.000 The deadly shooting also left a thirteen year old hospitalized.

01:35:30.000 Shurr, a technical sergeant with the U.S. Space Force based in Aurora, was awakened by a car alarm outside his apartment at eleven PM, july fifth, twenty twenty three.

01:35:39.000 The then twenty seven year old grabbed a pistol, ran outside to his Hyundai Elantro where he spotted two people dressed in all black attempting to break into the car.

01:35:46.000 Shur confronted the individuals, but the would be carjackers fled in another car.

01:35:51.000 The sergeant gave chase in his car and fired multiple rounds at the teens.

01:35:55.000 The fleeing car crashed into the backyard fence of a home four blocks south of Shur's residence.

01:36:00.000 Kirk and his teen accomplices hopped out of the damaged car and began running away as Shur continued to fire.

01:36:06.000 Kirk was found suffering from a gunshot wounds to the head and back.

01:36:09.000 He was transported to a local hospital and pronounced dead.

01:36:12.000 The thirteen year old who was driving the getaway car was shot in the back and managed to get to a relative's house before being brought to the hospital and survived.

01:36:19.000 Shur was arrested after the shooting and charged with first degree murder and first degree attempted murder.

01:36:24.000 A juror found the discharged Space Force sergeant guilty of the lesser crimes of second degree murder and second degree attempted murder on june sixteenth.

01:36:32.000 During the trial, Shur claimed the two potential carjackers had shot first and he was acting in self defense.

01:36:37.000 Investigators found eleven shell casings were fired all by Shur included there was no evidence that either teen was armed during the robbery.

01:36:45.000 Adams County District Court Judge Karen Datz argued the trained military sergeant should have known not to take lethal action.

01:36:53.000 CBS News, Colorado reported the former sergeant faced up to eighty years in jail.

01:36:58.000 This was a vigilante violence at its worst and now a young man is dead, said Adams and Broomfield County District Attorney Brian Mason.

01:37:07.000 The defendant took the law into his own hands, chased down a fleeing vehicle, and opened fire on its occupants.

01:37:12.000 A fourteen year old boy will now never grow up because of the defendant's actions.

01:37:16.000 Kirk's family called out Shur during the hearing, questioning why he shot at unarmed boys.

01:37:21.000 What mister Shur did to my son and his friend to chase them down and execute him over a car that they didn't even take is ludicrous, Kirk's father told the courtroom.

01:37:29.000 Other relatives deflected from the teen's brazen attempt attempted car jacking to focus on Shur's shooting.

01:37:35.000 You know, kids make mistakes, and so I always teach my kids in my family like my nephews and nieces about consequences and repercussions, said another relative.

01:37:42.000 The outlet reported, We're not trying to excuse any wrongdoing of Xavier or wrong they were involved in.

01:37:47.000 The part that's messed up is Ori Sure's car was never stolen.

01:37:51.000 Look, obviously this guy had done, you know, it was a terrible idea to chase them down, shooting at them, driving down the road is a like that is begging for a problem.

01:38:07.000 It's begging for innocent people to get hurt.

01:38:09.000 It was terribly dangerous.

01:38:11.000 I'm not sure if fifty four years is the right sentence, but you know, look, he killed a kid.

01:38:20.000 I will say that I think that if there were more or more significant consequences to people that were, you know, to young kids that were breaking the law, this might not have happened because look, there are a lot of kids out there that actually break the law because they say, look man, nothing's going to happen to me.

01:38:41.000 I'm a kid.

01:38:42.000 I'm a teen.

01:38:43.000 And there are people that are, and not that this is one of those cases.

01:38:45.000 I don't, I don't, I don't think that this is, this is indicative of this, but there are people out there that will have kids go do things because they're young.

01:38:54.000 Because if they get caughtht, the, uh, it will be wiped from their record when they turn eighteen. 0.99

01:39:02.000 So it's really using children to violate the law, uh, you know, and it's using them, manipulating them into doing things that they shouldn't be doing that will only make them into or only make them more likely to commit crime in the future.

01:39:18.000 Do you guys have a sense that this is that this is something that that do you think that he he got the sentence he deserved or I mean, I think long prison terms for the kids is going to put them into the criminal industrial complex forever anyways.

01:39:31.000 So, I mean, as we know, like once once once you're once you're once you have a felony on your record, it's very, very hard to get out from under that if you try to go back to being a standing member of society.

01:39:41.000 54 years was for what?

01:39:42.000 It was for the it was for the second degree murder.

01:39:45.000 So for second degree murder with and the one kid died but the other one didn't.

01:39:48.000 One kid died, one kid did not, did not, yes.

01:39:50.000 That's I mean, that's awful.

01:39:52.000 Like he shouldn't have, like he shouldn't have chased them down.

01:39:54.000 And I'm sure that there's going to be some people saying along the lines of what you're saying, but once they're off your property and this isn't something like castle doctrine, this is not something that most people are going to be able to find defensible in any way.

01:40:07.000 And then a lot of folks will like say, hey, this white guy shot these kids.

01:40:11.000 So he's getting more prison time.

01:40:11.000 Yeah.

01:40:12.000 But like you're saying, like we're all like we're all thinking like the dude chase to the kids.

01:40:16.000 He's also responsible for his own actions. 0.97

01:40:17.000 Yeah, he chased the freaking guy. 1.00

01:40:19.000 Yeah, they were stupid. 1.00

01:40:20.000 They shouldn't have been doing that. 1.00

01:40:22.000 But the second you leave your property and you go after this, you're begging the consequences.

01:40:26.000 Bro, relax.

01:40:27.000 And anyone who owns firearms will tell you that that's a great responsibility to carry.

01:40:31.000 And if you're going out and doing this, like, what was his sight line?

01:40:34.000 Could he even see what was in front of him?

01:40:36.000 What if his bullet had passed?

01:40:37.000 Yeah, I mean, look, I don't know.

01:40:39.000 Look, I don't know exactly how trained this guy is, but it's not like Space Force.

01:40:44.000 It said Space Force.

01:40:45.000 I was like, did they steal a spaceship?

01:40:46.000 Is that relevant to this story?

01:40:48.000 I mean, that's a big deal, though.

01:40:49.000 And that would be all, you know what I mean?

01:40:50.000 Look, it like just moving and shooting isoting and getting accurate hits on a target that's, you know, even if you're only 10 yards, 15 yards away, if you're walking like that, that's not super easy.

01:41:04.000 Like it's actually fairly difficult to be accurate with a handgun, which is a 3.5, 4 inch barrel, you know, and to be able to hit your target consistently.

01:41:17.000 So driving, it's not the movies.

01:41:20.000 You know, the idea that you're going to sit there and have a handgun out the window and drive with the other hand and make accurate shots, like that's just not happening.

01:41:30.000 I looked up to see if he was drinking.

01:41:31.000 Like, why would you chase these people people down the street? 1.00

01:41:33.000 I mean, they went to steal, and the family says they didn't steal a car, which is a stupid argument. 0.99

01:41:38.000 They were going to steal the car, so don't use that argument, family. 0.99

01:41:41.000 Well, they shouldn't be dead, by the way.

01:41:43.000 But yeah, that's a terrible argument.

01:41:44.000 But what, why is he chasing these people down the street, shooting at them?

01:41:48.000 I don't get, you know, bro.

01:41:50.000 It's awful.

01:41:51.000 I mean, he should have called 911.

01:41:53.000 Yeah.

01:41:54.000 He could have, if he wanted to, take matters into his own hands, he should have taken photographs, video, you know, whatever.

01:42:02.000 But getting in a car with a weapon and shooting while driving.

01:42:07.000 Wait, he was in a car?

01:42:08.000 I missed that part.

01:42:09.000 He was driving after them.

01:42:11.000 So he hopped in his own car and drove, and I'm like, what do you think they, what do you think you're doing?

01:42:17.000 Who do you think you are?

01:42:18.000 And again, like the casual, we have a life lost.

01:42:23.000 He's going to spend all this time in jail.

01:42:25.000 We have a family who had to bury their child, and so, arguably, they were doing something wrong and he, you know, his kids need rehabilitation.

01:42:35.000 You know, the the kid that lived, people need to watch out for him and help him along so that he can not have a life of crime.

01:42:43.000 But he could have, like, the devastation could have been much worse.

01:42:47.000 Yeah.

01:42:48.000 He could have hit all kinds of bystanders doing this.

01:42:51.000 And so for, I mean, I think they had to say he's going to spend basically the rest of his life in jail because you can't have people taking matters into their own hands like that.

01:43:00.000 And those are like two, like what Phil brought up before about like if the punishments were more severe for the kids.

01:43:05.000 So like, those are, they're vastly separate discussions.

01:43:08.000 And just the fact that he went after them is where most people are going to draw their line.

01:43:12.000 You know, you could have a whole discussion about people who get shot when they break into your home.

01:43:18.000 And everyone here and most rational people are going to say, well, you broke into another person's home.

01:43:23.000 What the hell did you expect to happen, right?

01:43:25.000 But the second, and again, this is a different nuanced discussion where the second you leave the property, the immediate threat to your own life is gone, is no longer there, and it becomes a completely different situation in the eyes of the law.

01:43:37.000 So, like, to me, the discussion about the deterrence about their, you know, if they were charged at a higher rate or maybe charged as adults, that seems kind of small in comparison to what this guy actually did, which was something vastly different than most people are going to accept.

01:43:55.000 You mentioned call 911.

01:43:58.000 I do wonder if the fact that police, you know, they don't solve crimes anymore, and I do wonder if police actually put any effort into.

01:44:08.000 into trying to figure out who does this stuff.

01:44:11.000 It's my sense that if most people don't expect the police to do anything.

01:44:17.000 Yeah.

01:44:18.000 Generally, right?

01:44:19.000 Like if you ask people, what do you think the cops are going to do?

01:44:21.000 They're just like, I'm not going to do anything.

01:44:23.000 And a lot of cops will tell you that, especially the, especially the larger the city or the, the municipality that you're in.

01:44:23.000 Yeah.

01:44:31.000 If you're dealing with a big, big town, like, I mean, if this is actually in Boulder, they're not doing anything.

01:44:38.000 The cops would be like, you called and two kids tried to steal my car.

01:44:43.000 Did they take your car?

01:44:44.000 Why are you calling us?

01:44:44.000 No.

01:44:46.000 And that's part of the problem.

01:44:47.000 Yeah, that's the problem too.

01:44:49.000 The dismissiveness of the police department.

01:44:51.000 Why are you calling us?

01:44:52.000 We're not going to, your car didn't get taken.

01:44:56.000 The fact that people feel like they're just waiting to be victimized.

01:45:00.000 Now again, this guy totally broke the law, he went way, way beyond anything reasonable.

01:45:08.000 But I do think that it's probably because that's kind of the feeling of all we're doing is waiting to be victimized and the police don't do anything.

01:45:19.000 The police don't prevent crime.

01:45:21.000 They don't try to solve crimes.

01:45:23.000 They don't try to go after the people.

01:45:25.000 and it probably boils down to more the district attorneys and the judicial branch than the actual law enforcement because not prosecuting.

01:45:34.000 Yeah, not prosecuting, letting kids go, letting people go because I'm sure he didn't know exactly how old this kid was.

01:45:40.000 He wasn't sure that he was a young person, but they're going to look at this and say, look, the cops don't do anything.

01:45:47.000 That's just the fact of the matter.

01:45:48.000 The cops aren't going to do anything.

01:45:50.000 They're not stopping the crime.

01:45:52.000 They're not picking up kids.

01:45:54.000 The kids that do get picked up, they don't actually, and nothing happens to them because they're just kids or because they're soft on crime DAs.

01:46:02.000 Because, you know, I think that's likely what this guy was thinking and it doesn't, doesn't make anything better.

01:46:08.000 But do you guys think that there's any policy that can fix this aside from people trying to get better DAs?

01:46:16.000 And if that is the case, how do you get better DAs? 0.95

01:46:19.000 This happened under Joe Biden in 2023, the great unifier, and Joe Biden would have told him to shoot him in the legs. 0.97

01:46:28.000 That's exactly what you should have done. 1.00

01:46:29.000 Shoot him in the air. 0.76

01:46:31.000 Yeah, I mean, like, so, yeah, I don't, I don't see how, how there's, how this is going to change unless you get proper law enforcement. 0.97

01:46:41.000 and that includes, you know, the judicial side.

01:46:44.000 I know it's super tech, Tom, real quick, but yeah, you need consequences and you need consequences for people's actions.

01:46:49.000 Well, so if these, how old were they again?

01:46:52.000 One was 14 and 13 or something?

01:46:54.000 15 and 13, so they would have been prosecuted for worse.

01:46:58.000 13, sorry.

01:46:58.000 If they had been arrested, if he had called the police, done everything as he was supposed to be, the police magically appear in ten seconds just as they're pulling out of his garageway.

01:47:06.000 They're getting arrested for what?

01:47:08.000 Grand Theft Auto?

01:47:09.000 No, is that even?

01:47:10.000 Like, it's just auto theft?

01:47:12.000 I did.

01:47:13.000 No, I'm saying, like, if it actually had, if it had gone that way, they stole the car, they're backing out of his garageway.

01:47:18.000 The police pull up, you're under arrest.

01:47:20.000 They're in jail for what, two, three years?

01:47:23.000 I think they might be let off because they're young.

01:47:26.000 Because is it bullying?

01:47:28.000 The best thing you can hope for is that they end up in jail for a couple of years rather than just not being prosecuted at all.

01:47:34.000 Theoretically then supposedly they learn the error of their ways while in jail and that's like the best you can hope for because they're minors.

01:47:43.000 Yeah, I mean, if you don't have proper law enforcement and that includes prosecution and jail, then you're going to have a population that feels like they're not going to be protectedcted by the state and they'll want to take the law into their own hands.

01:48:00.000 And I mean, there is an argument that can be made that's like, look, if people don't do feel like they can defend their own property.

01:48:08.000 And again, not in this context.

01:48:10.000 This context is, it's clear you do just chasing people down the street.

01:48:10.000 Yeah.

01:48:15.000 But if, if, if a society says, look, if you try to steal people's stuff, you know, then you're going, you're risking some kind of self-defense situation, right?

01:48:28.000 If you're, what everyone knows that if you go into someone's house, that, you know, like you said, it's generally thought of.

01:48:36.000 But even that, there are some states where you're not, you can't New Jersey,sey, Massachusetts, I don't know about California, but if you go into someone's home in certain states, you have to retreat, leave the house if you can leave and get out.

01:48:47.000 And that happens a lot with people when you get your concealing carrier, right?

01:48:50.000 Because they have to talk about it in many states.

01:48:52.000 Like, even if you have a justifiable threat against your life, if you get a DA that wants to, they'll prosecute anyway.

01:48:58.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:48:59.000 People don't feel like they can defend themselves.

01:49:00.000 Yeah, no matter what happens, you're probably going, if you have to use your handgun or your gun in a self defense situation, even if it's in your own house, you're probably going to have to get arrested.

01:49:12.000 They're probably going to take that weapon from you.

01:49:15.000 They might take all your guns while you are while the process is ongoing, right?

01:49:20.000 So nobody really wants to use a gun in their in their house because the government will is going to do government things.

01:49:27.000 Now you can defend yourself and be found not guilty of murder or maybe they'll find that it was justifiable, but you're still going to have to pay a boatload of money, right?

01:49:38.000 Like you're still going to have to pay a quarter of a million dollars in legal fees and and lawyer fees.

01:49:44.000 Yeah.

01:49:44.000 Reputation.

01:49:45.000 You know, I mean, it's it's it's not good to have to defend yourself in court ever.

01:49:52.000 It's not good to ever have to defend yourself from a viol violent attacker, but it is better than ending up dead.

01:49:57.000 In the context in that story specifically, that kind of hypothetical has really demoralized a lot of people.

01:50:04.000 Yeah.

01:50:04.000 They feel like the criminals are better protected than your average, everyday working class citizen.

01:50:09.000 Yeah.

01:50:09.000 And that's, I think, that this is emblematic of that, whereas even though he did the wrong thing, broke, broke plenty of laws, and it's probably justified that he goes to jail, that doesn't change the fact that he probably felt like this was justified because the government wasn't going to do anything for him.

01:50:28.000 Yeah.

01:50:29.000 And if the AG and everyone keeps going on this path, I think I said a couple of years ago, vigilantes, vigilantes are going to be on the rise.

01:50:36.000 It was like the couple outside of their house with the guns with the horrible sugar discipline.

01:50:41.000 Yeah, I mean, one of them was a real gun.

01:50:44.000 No, that was a fake.

01:50:44.000 Wait, what?

01:50:46.000 Was like a letter?

01:50:47.000 No, his AR was real, but her whatever handgun she had wasn't a real gun.

01:50:51.000 If it was, if it was a real gun, it was a disabled gun.

01:50:55.000 Like there was something that, like it was a plugged barrel or something.

01:50:58.000 I didn't know that.

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01:52:09.000 But right now we're going to head on.

01:52:10.000 We're going to go to Super Chats.

01:52:12.000 There is one guy that sent us a boatload of Super Chats.

01:52:15.000 Thank you, Eric Shaver.

01:52:16.000 We're not reading them because there's so many of them, but you sent like six or something like that, or you sent them on both YouTube and Rumble.

01:52:23.000 So we saw them and we appreciate your.

01:52:25.000 Is he having trouble yester yesterday on the show.

01:52:28.000 There was all sorts of funny business going on.

01:52:30.000 No, no, no.

01:52:31.000 I think he just passed through.

01:52:33.000 I think that he just had money that he wanted to part with or something.

01:52:36.000 So, uh, my Venmo, it, no, I'm just joking.

01:52:38.000 Yeah, there you go.

01:52:39.000 It reminds you of myself back in 2023.

01:52:39.000 Perfect.

01:52:42.000 From, uh, from Conrad Marcinic, is that it, Marc Marcinic anyways you can say my name why are we not talking about arming and mandating it that all schools should have proper security we have the votes seems like reps want to moan rather than get the real thing done Republicans do want to moan that is generally the truth I think that the Democrats generally say things like oh we don't wantt want guns around our kids and

01:53:12.000 play up the idea that kids are going to be scarred.

01:53:16.000 One of the things that they like to say is things like, oh, look, if kids see guns, they're not going to be able to learn.

01:53:22.000 The part of the way that they got no guns in school zones, one of the, and I don't know that it was, it may not have been actually, it may not have been successful, but they were trying this argument.

01:53:35.000 They said, look, the government's lawyers said, look, we don't think that people should be allowed to exercise their Second Amendment if you're in a school zone because if kids are in a in a school and there are people that have guns around this will affect their ability to learn and their ability learn means that that will directly affect interstate commerce.

01:54:01.000 They use the commerce clause as justification to prohibit guns from from school zones.

01:54:10.000 So now again, I don't recall if they were successful, but that's what the government likes to do.

01:54:17.000 They like to say, look, the commerce clause, that's the thing.

01:54:20.000 And the argument of, you know, kids are so sensitive and if they see guns, that's an argument.

01:54:24.000 they've used before, and it's the argument that Democrats make as to why you don't want armed guards around schools.

01:54:31.000 So let's see.

01:54:33.000 CVA Buck says, I'm a computer engineer at a nuclear plant.

01:54:37.000 It's worse than you think.

01:54:38.000 Big data is building next to rural nuclear plants and poaching employees for significant raises and mortgage level sign-on bonuses.

01:54:47.000 Oh, wow.

01:54:48.000 I would like to know more what you're talking about.

01:54:53.000 Hold on a second.

01:54:54.000 He said big data is building next to rural nuclear plants and poaching.

01:55:00.000 What kind of employees would a big data center be poaching from a nuclear plant.

01:55:06.000 I mean, maintenance or maybe to build their own small nuclear that could be.

01:55:14.000 plant to power just the data center so they have their own source.

01:55:18.000 And I'm not talking janitors, I mean like real maintenance, no offense.

01:55:21.000 But even well, I mean just when you said maintenance, I'm thinking like, are you going to give a maintenance person a house?

01:55:27.000 Oh, yeah.

01:55:28.000 A bonus that's a bonus.

01:55:29.000 Hey, you got those $80,000 sign on bonuses for DC police.

01:55:33.000 $250,000 sign on bonus.

01:55:35.000 You can buy a house.

01:55:36.000 Yeah, with the trades going down the ish, bro, I can tell you from first hand, maintenance is a.

01:55:40.000 It's a good paying job if you know what you're doing in the industrial world.

01:55:43.000 Yeah, so straight up.

01:55:44.000 So read this one right here, this one right directly underneath that.

01:55:49.000 Sovereign Fish says, everyone on the show is literally just talking to each other in headphones right now.

01:55:54.000 Headlines.

01:55:54.000 Headlines right now.

01:55:55.000 They're putting on Dunning Kruger Clinic.

01:55:57.000 They're laughably off base on the data center power consumption.

01:56:02.000 Okay.

01:56:02.000 Yeah, like, I'm just pointing out, like, yeah, we don't, we don't, we're asking questions and like trying to learn more about it.

01:56:08.000 We don't know about it.

01:56:09.000 That's the point.

01:56:09.000 Yeah, of course we're off base.

01:56:11.000 Like, we're not experts in that field.

01:56:12.000 Thank you for the $10.

01:56:13.000 Yeah.

01:56:14.000 Yeah, my, my background is data center analysis.

01:56:14.000 Thank you.

01:56:18.000 Yeah, I'm not sure what I'm not sure what he's expecting.

01:56:18.000 Yeah.

01:56:24.000 I mean, the thing is, all Americans are going to be impacted if we don't have the right energy policy.

01:56:30.000 So that really is what it comes down to.

01:56:32.000 So if we don't have the right energy policy, we're not going to be an economic power as it relates to technology.

01:56:38.000 That's and if we aren't going to open up our energy policy and we pursue our ambitions around being a technology powerhouse in the world, then small business, hospitals, residential areas could potentially suffer because our power sources can't handle it all.

01:56:59.000 So I think that's the impact that it has.

01:57:03.000 Boom, Theresa got it.

01:57:04.000 Yeah, I mean, it's like we were saying earlier, like power generation is probably the most important thing that the United States, the federal government should be doing when it comes to infrastructure because without being able to generate enough power, we're not going to be able to compete against China when it comes to AI.

01:57:24.000 And AI is the actual, it's going to be the biggest thing definitely in all of our lives.

01:57:31.000 So, let's see here.

01:57:34.000 Shane H. Wilder says Texas redistricting bill passed 88 to 52.

01:57:39.000 Texas Dems are already preparing for lawsuits on the basis of race, which will go nowhere since the lawsuit for the 2021 redistricting still hasn't been heard.

01:57:49.000 Look, I mean, if they vote for it, right, if the legislature votes for it, I don't understand how they think that they'd be able to undo it considering there's no basis for this being a race issue.

01:58:04.000 Is that why they left in the first place back a couple of years ago?

01:58:06.000 Well, I keep bringing up that Chet was telling me that, you know, 50 people left.

01:58:10.000 Was that because of the 2021 redistricting or something?

01:58:13.000 Well, they were, they were, yeah.

01:58:14.000 Well, I don't know if it was redistricting, to be honest with you.

01:58:17.000 I'm not sure.

01:58:18.000 I'm looking it up.

01:58:19.000 But yeah, he's got a good point.

01:58:21.000 The shame now is Texas.

01:58:22.000 So they got to get, basically like with the Congress and Trump, he could do all the EOs he wants to do.

01:58:28.000 But if Congress doesn't do it, then the next guy, Gavin Newsom, F his face, will change it.

01:58:35.000 I identify as tax exempt, says, More importantly than the number of people that left California is the wealth that left with them.

01:58:42.000 Absolutely.

01:58:45.000 of the things that that conservatives or one of the arguments conservatives always make when it comes to raising taxes when people are like oh you should tax billionaires.

01:58:54.000 There shouldn't be billionaires, et cetera.

01:58:57.000 They'll just leave. 0.97

01:58:58.000 And the idea that they're not going to leave is ridiculous.

01:59:02.000 You want, I mean, if you're, if you're going to tell Elon Musk that, that you're going to tax his, you're tax his business, what you're really telling him is we're going to nationalize your businesses.

01:59:13.000 We're going to take your business from you, right?

01:59:16.000 And he's done nothing wrong other than be successful.

01:59:20.000 Do you think that the federal government is going to be able to run Tesla?

01:59:24.000 Do you think the federal government could run SpaceX?

01:59:26.000 Obviously not.

01:59:27.000 They'll fail in like five, ten years, bro.

01:59:27.000 They had NASA.

01:59:29.000 Yeah.

01:59:30.000 You know, they're not going to be able to run.

01:59:32.000 I don't want them running X. I don't want them, I don't, I mean, actually, to be honest with you, I don't really care if they run the boring company because as of right now, I'm not sure the utility of the boring company.

01:59:44.000 But look, Elon Musk is way smarter than me and I'm sure he's got a great plan for the boring company.

01:59:49.000 So maybe it's just something I'm not seeing and I don't want the federal government running the boring company either.

01:59:54.000 I don't want the federal government running PCC.

01:59:57.000 Yeah, that's valid.

01:59:57.000 What?

01:59:58.000 You do?

01:59:59.000 Yeah.

02:00:00.000 I don't know why.

02:00:02.000 But anyways, trucker 2019 says we don't need any more foreign immigrants in our country.

02:00:07.000 We need to kick out the ones we already have here and encourage our own people to have kids, not import them from the third world. 1.00

02:00:14.000 I agree.

02:00:16.000 I'm not sure that we need to kick out all foreign immigrants, but definitely illegal immigrants. 1.00

02:00:22.000 Those all of the illegal, the criminal aliens, they all need to go. 1.00

02:00:26.000 Do you check out his emoticon or whatever, the little, little, what do you call that? 0.98

02:00:31.000 Oh, he wants a little more than just kicking them out.

02:00:35.000 More than that.

02:00:36.000 It's a deep profile go.

02:00:37.000 Easy, Tiger, easy.

02:00:38.000 Dude.

02:00:39.000 Can we just kick out the older people and keep the young ones and then put them in the schools for learning for immigrants and or illegal education? 1.00

02:00:46.000 Kick them all the elderly. 1.00

02:00:47.000 Do you want to put them in reeducation camps? 1.00

02:00:49.000 Yes, yes, yes.

02:00:51.000 Thank you.

02:00:51.000 That's a great way to say it.

02:00:52.000 That's very politically correct.

02:00:54.000 Now they all need to go.

02:00:57.000 Let's see.

02:00:59.000 The truth A says in California, the state pays for the school and the instructor to give non-English speakers the answers to the CDL test.

02:01:07.000 Great news.

02:01:08.000 Yet people like me who know how to drive a semi have to pay 10k for school and take a legitimate class. 0.92

02:01:13.000 Isn't that absolutely disgusting?

02:01:15.000 They will actually...

02:01:33.000 right?

02:01:34.000 There's also like, there's like 60 years of propaganda from Hollywood telling you that if you complain about someone not speaking English in America, you're a bad person. 0.99

02:01:45.000 Making you seem uncultured and stupid because someone is in your country speaking a language you don't speak. 0.85

02:01:51.000 And that's kind of burrowed its way into the mainstream average liberals' brains so that they don't look at policies like this having actual consequences for American citizens. 0.99

02:02:01.000 And truckers are based.

02:02:01.000 Yeah.

02:02:02.000 They are, um, don't, don't listen to what Allah said last night. 0.94

02:02:06.000 If if you are driving.

02:02:08.000 your fruits and vegetables and whatnot to people in cities or whatever around the world, then you're valuable to the world, to the United States of America.

02:02:15.000 What did Alad say?

02:02:17.000 He's like he thinks we put truck drivers on a pedestal.

02:02:20.000 We put anyone who helps the American economy on a pedestal.

02:02:23.000 And they're one of them.

02:02:25.000 Yeah, all right, smash the like button.

02:02:27.000 I actually want to add that in there for my buddy.

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02:02:38.000 Theresa, do you have anything that you want to shout out?

02:02:41.000 No, it's just been a great conversation being here.

02:02:44.000 Your book?

02:02:45.000 Oh, sure.

02:02:46.000 Do you have a Twitter account?

02:02:47.000 I do.

02:02:48.000 TrackerPayton is my Twitter account.

02:02:50.000 Talk about your book a little bit?

02:02:51.000 Oh, sure.

02:02:52.000 So, Manipulated Inside the Cyber War to hijack elections and distort the truth.

02:02:57.000 It's about manipulation campaigns. 0.61

02:02:58.000 It's not just about elections.

02:03:00.000 It's all different types of social issues, how AI algorithms, deepfakes, and other things kind of permeate their way around the world and impact how we talk to each other.

02:03:12.000 That book sounds very interesting, to be honest.

02:03:16.000 The manipulation campaign around what's going on today, it's very prevalent.

02:03:19.000 Yeah, it's interesting because, you know, propaganda has been around the world since there were two people walking on Earth, but it's been interesting to see how it evolves at speed and scale.

02:03:30.000 You know, back in the day, like Russia, for example, used to have to try to embed people in America and see over a long period of time whether or not things worked, and now anyone, not just Russia, but anyone can post things on social media and see through clicks and likes and mentions whether or not a propaganda campaign is actually working.

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