On this episode of Pop Culture Crisis: Crisis, host Brett and co-host Phil are joined by Teresa Payton, CEO of Fortalezza Solutions and author of the book, "Manipulated Inside the Cyber War" to talk about all things election related. They also discuss the latest in Cracker Barrel and the Homeland Security Department's plans to red decorate the border wall.
00:01:38.000The Texas House has approved redistricting, so it proves that all of that hub from the Democrats was absolutely pointless for no reason at all.
00:01:47.000Bed Bath and Beyond is going to be back, but they're not coming back to California, so we'll talk about that.
00:01:52.000Cracker Barrel has decided that they're going to.
00:01:55.000do a whole bunch of red-decorating, excuse me.
00:01:58.000And the internet has said, thanks, I hate it.
00:02:01.000And the DHS has decided they're going to red-decorate the border wall, so that way it's hot to touch.
00:02:10.000So we're going to go ahead and get into all that.
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00:02:58.000That's where the things get a little spicy.
00:03:01.000We get into topics that maybe we aren't supposed to talk about or you don't think that you're supposed to talk about or what or YouTube won't let us talk about.
00:03:59.000It's all the manipulation campaigns that happen around the world, globally, including in the United States, that impact us on social issues, how we talk to each other, how we treat each other, and by the way, also elections, deepfakes, AI play a role in that as well.
00:04:27.000We have some blue lights, we have some red lights.
00:04:29.000So today I got to spend the day up in the air in the lift in a boom lift connecting up for the skate jam session on august 30 that we're going to have.
00:04:56.000So we're going to jump right into this from Axios.
00:04:59.000The Texas House approves redistricting map favoring Republicans.
00:05:03.000The Texas House gave initial approval to a new congressional map Wednesday that will probably give Republicans five more seats in a closely divided US House.
00:05:11.000The redistricting would go a long way to ensuring the US House remains in Republican control even as it sets in motion a wave of gerrymandering in other states.
00:05:20.000Heavily outnumbered, Texas Democrats briefly held up the redistricting plan as they left for other states, depriving the chamber of a quorum necessary for a vote, but they returned Monday for a new special session, saying they would now challenge the redistricting in the courts.
00:05:34.000The thirty eight member Texas Congressional Delegation is currently composed of twelve Democrats and twenty five Republicans.
00:05:40.000One seat is vacant following the death earlier this year of Democrat Rep Sylvester Turner of Houston.
00:05:46.000Under the new map prompted by a demand from President Trump, Texas would likely send thirty Republicans and eight Democrats to Washington.
00:05:54.000The underlying goal of this redistricting is to improve Republican political performance, Bill Author State Rep Todd Hunter, Republican from Corpus Christi said on Wednesday.
00:06:04.000The proposal amounts to an illegal and racially discriminatory map that surgically strips away minority representation in the U. S. Congress, said Rep Chris Turner from Grand Prairie.
00:06:17.000The impulse of outside politicians and their billionaire backers shouldn't dictate what we do in the House.
00:06:23.000It is not the way that the Democrats are actually framing it.
00:06:29.000If I understand correctly, two of the five new seats would actually be majority black, or I'm sorry, two of the five new districts would be majority black.
00:06:39.000So this has nothing to do with race, but it does have to do with the fact that there has been such a massive demographic shift and population shift, people leaving California, moving to Texas, and all of the illegal immigration, considering that the census doesn't count citizens.
00:07:02.000It's something that actually has precedent.
00:07:04.000There have been times where there have been, you know, mid-censuses that were not just every ten years and redistricting is something that I think is important.
00:07:14.000Do you have a sense as to what this actually is going to mean for Republicans or Democrats in DC?
00:07:20.000I think it's going to be interesting to see as somebody who lived in Florida through redistricting and North Carolina through redistricting.
00:07:27.000It is going to be interesting to see how it plays out.
00:07:30.000The one thing I always say about redistricting is be careful because one man or woman's favorite redistricting, the next party, if they're becoming If they become in charge, they can change it back.
00:07:43.000Just make sure it's something that will stand the test of time, but it will be interesting to see how it plays out.
00:07:48.000This is something we've been talking about for a couple of days because this has kind of been what's leading the news.
00:07:53.000Nick Sorder had some stuff to say about it on Twitter.
00:08:10.000The bill aims to provide five additional congressional seats for the GOP correspondent Garrett Tenney shows us what's happening from Austin, Texas tonight.
00:08:24.000So five seats is really going to be a big deal.
00:08:27.000And I think if the Democrats are going to escalate, which is what they've kind of indicated that they're going to do, you'll see some redistricting in, I think it was California, Illinois.
00:08:38.000But again, this is something we talked about a couple of times.
00:08:41.000There's not a whole lot more the Democrats can do.
00:08:43.000While the Republicans actually have a lot of room to squeeze more seats out of multiple states.
00:08:49.000Well, yeah, that's because, uh, as we've talked about endlessly on this show, at least in the times I've been on, is that Republicans historically in the past have been very weak on actually making inroads and progress.
00:08:58.000They tend to be playing defense all the time.
00:09:01.000And now for the first time, at least in my, it feels like in my living memory that they're actually going on the offensive and the Democrats can't really do that because they've been on the offensive for so long that they've pushed that can as far down the road as they can.
00:09:26.000She said, or I'm just looking at it, that it's racist and it's anti demographic warning that they're going to drastically drastically reduce minority voting power.
00:09:35.000While, like Phil said, they're going to get at least two., possibly two with minority voting power.
00:09:41.000So actually, speaking of representatives, I get it.
00:09:45.000Get as many of you as possible to flood our state.
00:09:49.000Like when it's election time, I want them to be so mad that they did all of this because we have people coming from the entire country to Texas to make sure that this little scheme that they tried to pull where they were just going to steal and diminish the voices of black and brown people.
00:10:07.000I want us to be so loud that they actually go running and try to figure out what's that little racist town they all hiding in and some what is it in Arkansas, Arkansas, I think they all ran to Arkansas.
00:11:02.000I think that it's probably just kind of boilerplate Democrat complaining about whatever the policy is.
00:11:08.000That's just the go-to line that they've had for the better part of at least a decade, possibly fifteen years.
00:11:12.000part of at least a decade, possibly 15 years, they just call everything racist.
00:11:17.000And that has has worked to frighten people and say, well, because people are really people don't want to consider them, you know, think of themselves as a bad person.
00:11:26.000And generally racism is thought of as a bad thing.
00:11:30.000So, you know, you tell a white person, they're like, oh, you're racist.
00:11:38.000Especially if you're talking about someone that's a Democrat.
00:11:40.000Republicans have kind of got a thicker skin now because they've been hearing it for so long and they've gotten to the point where they're just like, I know I'm not, so I don't care what you say.
00:11:50.000I know this is only a rhetorical tool.
00:11:52.000This is only you trying to attack me to shut me up.
00:11:55.000So I don't worry about those kind of accusations, but there's still people that it actually works for.
00:12:01.000Yeah, but that's like when you're having an argument with somebody about social issues.
00:12:04.000We're talking about political redistricting.
00:12:07.000It's as boring as it could possibly get.
00:12:10.000And that seems so outside of the construct of what they're discussing that it doesn't even seem relevant.
00:12:15.000Like that makes more sense if they're talking about the actual racial demographics of their politicians saying, you didn't vote for this person, therefore your racists.
00:12:23.000We know that's still BS as well, but that seems more logical than whatever it is that they're trying to, it feels very square peg round hole, but if anyone's going to tell you to be loud and obnoxious, it would be Jasmine Crockett.
00:13:06.000So, like, you know, this post from Muse says that Jasmine Crockett was calling for white people to leave Texas, suggesting they move to Arkansas.
00:13:17.000You're not supposed to do that either.
00:13:19.000And they're building a town of the white people.
00:13:21.000Is that what she and they're mad about that.
00:13:22.000And now she wants them to go join this other white community.
00:13:24.000Well, I mean, that's the that's again, again, that kind of speaks to my point about using racism as a rhetorical tool or using the accusation of racism as a wedge to get people to respond because white people have been like, you know, I don't want to be thought of as racists.
00:13:43.000Again, that works when you're talking about regular social issues.
00:13:46.000If we're talking about this, nobody's moving just to Yeah, but I do think that the accusation of racism is less compelling nowadays.
00:13:56.000Just like when, you know, when you hear Nazi about Donald Trump for 35,000 times in a month or whatever, like you people start to think, okay, wait a minute.
00:14:08.000Maybe they're just saying the most terrible thing they can think of.
00:14:13.000And this is actually something that comes from the postmodern philosophy.
00:14:19.000They don't actually believe, their postmodernists don't actually believe that there is a truth.
00:14:24.000They believe that it's all perspective and they don't believe that words actually have any more meaning than we give them.
00:14:31.000So because words have the meaning that we give them, words don't actually have any meaning.
00:14:36.000So they can use words that function to get a reaction or to produce a result, as opposed to using words that mean something.
00:14:47.000And it's generally has worked, but people on the right are kind of on that kind of rhetoric and are just sick and tired of it.
00:14:56.000If you got, please, if you got something you can add to that, please.
00:14:58.000Well, no, I mean, as far as manipulation campaigns and that, that's what people have to realize is we all consciously or subconsciously have manipulation campaigns.
00:15:08.000And so on one hand, it may be something good where, I don't know, I'm looking for light blue pumps and the internet, I now that I talked about it in front of all of you, the internet is going to send me marketing campaigns, manipulation campaigns to show me the blue pumps.
00:15:24.000I couldn't find and now I have to buy.
00:15:27.000So on the one hand, there's marketing, but then it can also be things like the rhetoric and the language that people use that can be very divisive.
00:15:37.000It's happening in sort of the language choices we use.
00:15:39.000And we have to be very mindful of it and not do it ourselves, but also be able to help other people spot and stop when these manipulation campaigns are happening.
00:15:48.000So now like you're going to turn on your computer, it's going to be ads like move to sunny Texas.
00:16:02.000Is that something that you actually get into in your book?
00:16:04.000Not about the kind of that part of the politics, but the fact that you can see where a social media campaign using certain hashtags, using certain language, can manipulate people to think, Okay, this is what's actually happening.
00:16:19.000And they don't have time to dig deeper.
00:16:56.000What's the best way to reset, like, if we're talking purely on social media platforms, what is the best way to like reset your algorithm if it's going off the rails?
00:17:08.000I mean, so if you think about rolling pandas?
00:17:11.000How can you have a bad day when you see pandas rolling down a hill?
00:17:14.000And so if you want, I mean, whenever I feel like my algorithm needs a reset, I'll look at funny animal videos or rolling pandas or maybe I'll look at something I love Pope Leo, so I'll look at something that Pope Leo recently said and it just resets your algorithm.
00:17:29.000Because like X is particularly pernicious and like last week we covered the stupid story about the Mormon dating show.
00:18:05.000What they want is for you to spend more time.
00:18:09.000So the more eyes they have, the more money they make.
00:18:11.000And it's one of the things I found in doing the research for the book was, you know, I thought a lot of times manipulation campaigns as they related to political elections around the world was about trying to pick winners and losers.
00:18:23.000But what I realized in the research for my book is people actually make a lot of money in the process.
00:18:31.000And then I came across through HackerX, there was a Macedonian group and HackerX asked them, why are you guys doing pro Bernie, pro Trump, and anti Hillary?
00:18:42.000And this was back in that time frame when all three of them were running.
00:18:48.000That's the combo that makes us the most money.
00:18:51.000So you click on their news, you click on the ads, you spend time there, and they figured out when they were pro Hillary, they didn't make as much money.
00:19:00.000But when they were pro Bernie, pro Trump, anti Hillary, that for them, capitalism wise, they just said, We're pro capitalism, these Macedonians.
00:19:25.000So, I mean, look, at the end of the day, the, you know, whether you're talking about this kind of manipulation or whatever, or you're talking about redistricting, the goal is to get the, as much political power as you can.
00:19:37.000And I think that the Democrats have made it pretty clear, even though they'll swear up and down that this is some kind of, I guess, a nefarious attempt by the Republicans.
00:19:48.000This is something that's pretty mundane, to be honest with you.
00:19:50.000Now, granted, like I said, it is odd that.
00:19:55.000they're doing a redistricting and they want to do it halfway through the census time.
00:20:00.000Normally, it's every 10 years that they'll do a census and then they'll redistrict.
00:20:08.000They could do a whole other census and that might even change more of the congressional representation.
00:20:13.000It's likely to change more of the congressional representation.
00:20:18.000I just want to know, what do you guys think is going to be the overall outcome of this?
00:20:23.000The attempts at redistricting, do you think it's going to turn into a big old fight between Republicans and Democrats?
00:20:28.000Do you think California is going to go and then the Republicans are going to actually have to go?
00:20:31.000Or do you think that it' will just be something that happens in Texas?
00:20:34.000Because California, they actually have to have a referendum to do this.
00:20:40.000Do you think that they have the actual, do you think there's the fire in California's belly to actually pass the referendum and continue this?
00:20:49.000And if that doesn't happen, do the Republicans still respond in other states and say, let's just go whole hog and go for as many seats as we can?
00:20:56.000What would be another state that they would want to do this in?
00:21:11.000My, I mean, my old home state, Massachusetts, they have zero Republican representation.
00:21:18.000And, you know, 35, 35, 40 percent of the people in Massachusetts are Republicans.
00:21:22.000It's not, it's not 100 percent, you know, Democrat.
00:21:27.000But the same thing kind of goes for California, right?
00:21:31.000Like they have a lot of, a lot of people that are Republicans in California because there's just a lot of people in California and there are very few Republican representatives.
00:21:42.000So I mean, that's the problem though, right?
00:21:44.000You can't show those seven states to a Jasmine Crockett or whoever is making their argument to the contrary because they probably know anyway, well, she might not know, but the others who are talking about this might already likely know about this.
00:22:02.000So it looks like, I mean, there's one, two, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen, fourteen, fifteen states that Republicans could redraw the maps in.
00:22:17.000So it's not, it doesn't look good for the Republic for the Democrats in California.
00:22:21.000Again, California isn't even a guarantee.
00:22:24.000They're just talking about it and they're going to, they'd have to have a refer referendum and the people would have to actually have to vote for it.
00:22:29.000So Do you guys have the sense that this is something that the Republicans will push for?
00:22:34.000Because as far as I'm concerned, like I want to see the Republicans do everything they can to shove it down the Democrats' throats because this is something again we talk about regularly.
00:22:44.000Democrats are going to do everything they can if and when they get back in power because eventually they will when they do, they are going to do everything they can to expand the court, the Supreme Court.
00:22:55.000They're going to try to get rid of the Electoral College.
00:22:57.000Now, those things may not happen, but they're going to try because Democrats aren't afraid to exercise power.
00:23:04.000Whereas Republicans really do avoid exercising power.
00:23:07.000I think with this, with the success of Texas, hopefully folks, Missouri, there's a couple other, you know, North Carolina, South Carolina, will see this, or other states that we're talking about that need to be restricted.
00:23:22.000Ohio, definitely Ohio, you kidding me?
00:23:24.000Kentucky, Tennessee, hopefully they'll take the lead of Texas and be like, you know what?
00:23:47.000to see what happens from a leadership perspective on the Republican side.
00:23:51.000The other thing I would say is if you're going to do it, do it, but think through the opportunity cost.
00:23:55.000So if you're spending time on this, is there something else that's not going to get done?
00:24:01.000And so if you're going to do it, do it knowing you're going to win, like be in it to win it, or focus on the thing you're not doing.
00:24:08.000So that would be my biggest thing because I think a frustration, a lot of times is sometimes, you know, they like being number two versus number one because then you have to lead.
00:24:20.000So I would just say for the Republicans, make sure if you're in it and you're going to do this this, be in it to win it and focus on.
00:24:27.000So what's not going to get done if we're focused on this?
00:24:29.000Do you think that there's something that they could be better spent using their time for?
00:25:02.000It's, I think you've, you just have to look at the long list of things that need to get done that might not get done if you're focused on this.
00:25:10.000So we're going to jump to this story now.
00:25:12.000We're, we're going to talk a little bit about Bed Bath and Beyond.
00:25:15.000They went away for a couple of years, but they're coming back.
00:25:19.000Major retailers from Fox News, Fox Business, major retailers say no to California, pulls zero punches outlining economic reality.
00:25:27.000Bed Bath and Beyond executive chairman Marcus Lemones, I think that's right, announced on Wednesday that the company won't operate, open or operate retail stores in California, saying the decision isn't about politics.
00:25:38.000Lemones said in a statement posted on.
00:25:41.000X that the decision was driven by the fact that the company wouldn't be able to sustain operations in the state due to higher taxes, higher fees, and higher wages coupled with endless regulations that strangle growth.
00:25:52.000California has created one of the most over regulated, expensive, and risky environments for businesses in America, Lamone said, noting that the state's policies created a system that makes it harder to employ people, harder to keep doors open, and harder to deliver value to customers.
00:26:06.000Lamone said that the state's budget surpluses come at the expense of ordinary citizens who are paying too much and businesses who are squeezed until they break.
00:26:15.000Lamone said the company won't participate in a system that he says undermines both its customers and shareholders.
00:26:21.000But the company is not alienating its California customers.
00:26:23.000Instead, Lamone said the company is investing in a strategy that will enable Californians to get products from bedbath and beyond dot com that will be delivered between 24 and 48 hours.
00:26:32.000In many cases, same day services will be offered.
00:26:35.000Lamone said nothing that it will, excuse me, Lamone said noting that it will help the company avoid the inflated costs created by an unstable business model.
00:26:44.000This comes as the alien company fights its way back to relevance after it collapsed in 2023 from mounting debt and several failed turnaround strategies under its mother company renamed from Beyond Inc.
00:26:57.000The retailer is returning to brick and mortar shops with its first, first Bed Bath and Beyond opening in Nashville earlier this month.
00:27:05.000So theoretically they should have like brick and mortar stores, right?
00:27:09.000Like products like that seem like something that you would want to go and actually buy in person.
00:27:14.000Well, not only that, like, you know, a lot of people like to be able to go and, you know, hold things like towels or sheets.
00:27:20.000It's one thing to be like, oh, you know, I want to order things that are not tactile from from from Amazon, but was one of the things listed, did it have to do with crime?
00:27:31.000Was it like the lack of prosecution for stuff getting stolen?
00:27:34.000Are they worried about having to like lock up individual towels?
00:27:37.000I think this I think this case not in the this case, not so much because they'd been out of business.
00:27:53.000Opening actual brick and mortar stores is not cheap in California.
00:27:56.000These things add up and they disincentivize business.
00:28:00.000California loves to talk about how they're the ninth biggest economy in the world.
00:28:04.000And this is what one of the guys was saying earlier.
00:28:08.000The piece is a bit long, so we're not going to listen to it, but California loves to talk about how they're one of the or they're the ninth biggest economy in the world.
00:28:15.000And it's tru because California's got beautiful weather and it's got beautiful land and stuff.
00:28:22.000Those kinds of things only retain people for a certain time.
00:28:26.000You have Teslas left and that was a big deal because literally one of the politicians was vocally criticizing Musk on the internet and Musk was like, Okay, message received and just moved out.
00:28:53.000Yeah, and that's like, I don't know how many people Rogan employs, but it's not that many, but even still, like, when you're that wealthy, you know, as well as wealthy as Rogan is, look man, you have a lot of leverage with getting around laws that you don't want to deal with or paying fees and stuff, it doesn't really matter, but Rogan, you know, apparently it was too much for Rogan to take.
00:29:18.000And again, they've lost, I think they net lost like 500,000 people over the past few years, which is incredible because if you've anyone, you know, you've been to California, it's gorgeous.
00:29:29.000It's absolutely beautiful on the coast.
00:29:33.000desert like the rest of the southwest, or sorry, southwest, but still, it's really, it's really beautiful where the people are, the population centers.
00:29:42.000So it takes significantly bad governance to get people to say, I can't deal with you.
00:29:51.000When you're going to lose a staple like In and Out Burger, the headquarters of In and Out Burger, that's known for being in California, they're going to move to Nashville or Tennessee.
00:31:18.000Everything's closed in North Carolina.
00:31:20.000And so I picked up the phone and called a bowling alley in South Carolina about ten miles from my house, and they picked up on the first ring.
00:31:58.000Abilene is going to have the big data center going in.
00:32:02.000I don't think a lot of people realize the energy consumption that AI, cryptocurrency, and eventually quantum, is going to be asking for, but we've got some big decisions to make.
00:32:14.000So as these huge data centers go in, they're bigger than anything we have today.
00:32:19.000We have to ask ourselves when it's in your neighborhood, when there's a rolling brown out, who gets the energy?
00:32:26.000Is it going to be the data center that's now powering really important things?
00:32:44.000You can't overemphasize how important.
00:32:47.000the generating electricity is going to be for the future.
00:32:50.000And if you look at how much China's done, because you're right about the data centers, AI is incredibly electricity intensive and China has, I think, I don't know how much they've increased, but they have, they're just eating our lunch and you can't get permits in the US to turn on a nuclear power plant.
00:33:13.000that will actually be functional before 2032.
00:33:17.000Do you know an American nuclear engineer?
00:34:08.000They're building a dam now that's going to make the Three Gorges Dam look like child's play.
00:34:12.000The new dam is alleged to be able, is planned to be able to produce enough power to power all of a population the size of Germany, like the whole country from one dam.
00:34:25.000If the United States doesn't get their S together when it comes to power generation, they're going to lose.
00:34:32.000Never mind all the stuff you said, because you're totally right about Brown.
00:34:34.000It's like, does the AI center get the power?
00:34:37.000Does the hospital that's keeping people on life support get the power?
00:34:41.000or does your air conditioner get the power?
00:34:43.000Like when the brown outs are happening, they're going to have to triage.
00:34:48.000But not only that, if the United States is not making enough power, the United States will lose the AI race.
00:34:55.000And that is the most important thing going right now.
00:34:59.000I can't, I know there are people that are AI skeptic and that say, Oh, AI is not that impressive or it won't be.
00:35:05.000I truly believe that they are dead wrong that this technology is going to not just revolutionize one industry, it's going to revolutionize the world.
00:35:15.000It's going to be bigger than the internet.
00:35:17.000It's going to be bigger than the printing press., the change that's going to happen because of AI.
00:35:22.000It is, it is, it's the next industrial revolution and what people have to realize.
00:35:26.000So today's data centers don't match what we need for AI, cryptocurrency.
00:35:33.000So the data centers that are being built, including in Abilene, Texas as part of the Stargate rollout, they're going to need to be a five gigawatt campus.
00:35:42.000This is the equivalent to the power coming out of three nuclear plants.
00:35:49.000Tucson, Arizona, recently said they rejected unanimously their Project Blue data center, massive data center.
00:35:57.000So if we're going to if they're going to keep saying no to the data centers, I mean, it was going to take all their water and kill the whole economy and it's going to be terrible for them.
00:36:03.000But where can they where can they put the data centers where they don't kill all the water and make people in the surrounding area, you know, not have water and just live terrible lives?
00:36:12.000Look, in 2024, China generated, what is it, 10,073 terawatt hours while the United States generated 4,387 terawatt hours.
00:36:25.000And granted, China has a lot more people, right?
00:36:28.000But that doesn't change the fact that they have the capacity and the United States does not have the capacity and China is generating, China is building and investing in ways that the United States just isn't.
00:36:42.000This is something that is going to AI and power generation, like the number of electrons that you can, that you can generate is a massive, massive problem for the United States right now.
00:38:00.000California's system makes it nearly impossible for businesses to succeed, and I won't put our company, our employees or our customers in that position.
00:38:09.000What's annoying about it is it's actually a triumph of capitalism that they can reopen stores and still get products to people in California and find a way around that.
00:38:19.000But because the left is so anti business and anti capitalist by nature that they won't see this as the win that it is, what they'll say is you should open a business here, lose money on it and pay us 35,000 dollars an hour and instead they're not seeing it for what it is which is a win for everybody involved because they're working with the you know with what they've been given which is crappy regulation no ability to operate within the state but still get products to people there look california's minimum wage is 1650 an hour okay not
00:38:49.00035 000 you're close enough but that's look the fact of the matter is like the amount of people that actually make minimum wage and the length of time that they stay at minimum wage is like it's very few people and it's very very short i'm actually gonna let me google that's a good question because 1650 is not a liv living wage in California if you're living by yourself.
00:39:12.000That's, I mean, in California in general, you can't live by yourself even if you're making like 80k.
00:39:18.000Well, that's why they should be happy that they don't get taxed on tips now.
00:39:23.000And then we can talk about it later when Trump's out of office and we can have another wedge issue to fight about.
00:39:28.00010% of workers Yeah, so they they don't have an actual number for us, but 10% of workers in the state make no more than the current minimum wage.
00:39:49.000Yeah, people that are working in the service industry or possibly they might be talking about people that are illegal, that are, you know, being paid under the table and they might be throwing them into the estimate, but I don't really know.
00:40:26.000So there's only, there's about 869,000 hourly workers in the United States that make the federal minimum wage.
00:40:33.000So that's, I mean, that's an, that's 1.1% of hourly workers.
00:40:39.000That is an exceedingly small amount of people that actually make minimum wage.
00:40:44.000Most people, you know, make way, make considerably more than minimum wage.
00:40:47.000Even if they're not making a lot of money, most people are making more than minimum wage.
00:40:52.000So it's the idea that raising the minimum wage is important to a considerable number of the electorate is just wrong.
00:41:01.000Well, it's another wedge issue that they focus on during election season because it wouldn't matter anyways with inflation at the rate that it's at now.
00:41:08.000It's like we've been so past, like, like, wages have failed to rise with the rate of inflation for so long that it's almost a moot point.
00:41:18.000Because the cost of everything is going up anyway.
00:41:21.000That's why Walgreens and all those guys went on business in California because they started doing twenty dollars an hour and they couldn't afford to pay the people.
00:41:27.000That and then the fact that people regulations stealing and Oh sure, sure.
00:41:32.000You go in and buy deodorant and it's all locked individually in a case or you have to go to the reception desk and say or the cashier and say, I'd like a deodorant.
00:42:00.000You know, what's going to stop you if the police won't actually enforce the law?
00:42:05.000It's all like it's all cloud pivot stuff.
00:42:07.000Like they just destabilize and knock it all down.
00:42:09.000And then when they're greeted as liberators, when they, when they come to inevitably, oh, we'll insist on our laws and our order and everything like that, but it doesn't really work because we're the ones insisting on law and order.
00:42:18.000So it kind of backfiring for them, I think.
00:42:21.000Okay, we're going to jump to this story here from the post millennial.
00:42:24.000Cracker Barrel fans slam new redesign, woke CEO insists feedback is overwhelmingly positive.
00:42:32.000Cracker Barrel is facing a wave of backlash after unveiling its first major logo design since nineteen seventy seven, with longtime customers and fans furious that the company quietly dropped its signature cowboy from the image that defined the chain for nearly five decades, says Gray News.
00:42:49.000The company's CEO is now under attack from Cracker Barrel traditionalists who believe the brand is being mismanaged.
00:42:55.000The country style restaurant chain rolled out the new look keeping its golden brown palette but removed the iconic figure of a man leaning against a barrel.
00:43:03.000with a minimalist design focused solely on the barrel itself.
00:43:06.000In a statement, the company said the refreshed logo is rooted even more closely to the iconic barrel shape and word mark that started it all.
00:43:17.000The controversy comes on the heels of other missteps by CEO Julie Flesmassino, who took the helm less than a year ago.
00:43:24.000Last year she sparked outrage during an investor call by declaring We're just not as relevant as we once were while admitting that some of our recipes and processes haven't evolved in decades.
00:43:34.000Those remarks, combined with sluggish post pandemic business, rattled investors.
00:43:39.000The company's stock plunged nearlyly twenty percent in the weeks following her comments, whoa, following her comments, sinking to a 52 week low of 45.35, its weakest trading level in more than ten years, according to Daily Mail.
00:43:52.000She shouldn't she have been focused on the we are a mainstay, we're something that doesn't need to change, we represent a steady hand for America that is resistant to change because it's good the way it is.
00:44:05.000Isn't the CEO's job to frame things in a positive light?
00:44:08.000If you go by the stock price, I would say that's probably Yeah, but they're saying that that stock drop also came on the heels of her making those comments, right?
00:44:26.000What were people saying, I really don't like Barrel and Cracker Barrel?
00:44:32.000Are they looking for young people to come in and come to Cracker Barrel?
00:44:36.000Because that's not your audience, like part of running a business is knowing who your target market is.
00:44:40.000Now I understand that with most businesses you're always looking to expand and you never just want to settle into one demographic and stick with it, but for a company like this you have to at the very least you have to settle into what you know works and then perhaps branch out from there.
00:44:56.000I mean, it's normal to see a backlash from people on the internet when it comes to significant changes.
00:45:04.000But there was another picture that I saw going around, and I don't know if it's actually in this, in this piece from the Postmillennial, but they had changed the inside too, all of the knickknacks that were, you know, frequently or in all of the cracker bales, because the walls are just packed with stuff.
00:45:19.000They're just consistently full of things.
00:45:22.000Those are all going to be changed too.
00:45:24.000And it looks very, it looks sparse in comparison to the way that it used to be.
00:45:29.000And it's almost like I couldn't help but think of like the it's in my imagination.
00:45:33.000It's like if Brooklyn was designing a cracker barrel because it reminded me of the picture of that sparse little barbecue when people were saying, Oh, this is what barbecue in Brooklyn's like.
00:45:45.000And it's like, you think of barbecue, you think of a big plate of stuff, and like, it was these tiny little portions.
00:45:52.000And it just made me think, this is, this is not what people think of when they think of Cracker Barrel, and it doesn't seem to stay true to the spirit of the company.
00:46:02.000Homogeneity is the name of the game of fast food now though.
00:46:05.000I mean, McDonald's looks like a corporate office when you go inside there.
00:46:09.000Like, whenever we're back visiting in Michigan, there's like a Shake Shack there, and it looks like a CPA office.
00:46:16.000It doesn't have any personality whatsoever.
00:46:18.000So most of these places, I don't know if it's most of it has a lot to do with the fact that a lot of the business comes from delivery now anyways from DoorDash that they just don't try as hard inside.
00:46:28.000But he said this lady's only been in charge for like a year.
00:46:50.000What if all the customers are coming at you hard enough about the look the look of the restaurants and they want to go back to the old way.
00:48:22.000Yeah, I think that this is, I mean, this is worse because Cracker Barrel actually, like, I like Cracker Barrel, or I do like Cracker Barrel, and I don't care what MSNBC or what MSNow does.
00:48:48.000What I would say to her is, you know, when I worked in banking, we used to do Mystery Shopper.
00:48:52.000So we would go in as if we were a customer, not present ourselves as someone from corporate, and just mingle with the other customers, see how we were treated, and see what the experience felt like.
00:49:05.000I would highly recommend she do like an undercover boss and be like a Mystery Shopper, and just go visit the Cracker Barrels and even come, like, try to engage with other customers to get some real customer focused feedback.
00:49:21.000That would be my biggest recommendation to her.
00:49:23.000If she were asking my opinion, if she's watching the show, that's what I would say..
00:49:26.000The cracker barrel crowd aren't like hippie, dippy, drinking paps blue ribbon beer.
00:49:35.000Hippies, you know, like cool kids anymore.
00:49:40.000They want to have breakfast in the morning with the steak and eggs.
00:49:43.000They love the old, like you said, Gen Z. They might like the walls full of like memorabilia and all the stuff of like the history of America.
00:49:55.000But when you make it all bland and also...
00:50:00.000Do you think women, this is off topic, they come in and they ruin Bud Light, not they, but certain people come in and the room, but like, Wait, are you blaming women?
00:50:12.000The more I'm learning about these CEOs and these HR reps, like, what's going on with the whole, you know, can women be in charge of a company?
00:51:20.000Like, when I googled it, they brought up pictures of just the, the changes, some of the changes they've made.
00:51:26.000But this one is the one that I wanted to see, or this particular redesign, because getting rid of those round back, the round top chairs that really looked, had that rustic look, in favor of this, it's like, this might as well be an IHOP, right?
00:51:41.000This might as well be I thought it looked like a hospital cafeteria.
00:52:54.000Like the stores that are attached to Cracker Barrel, they have a bunch of cool knicks, it's a great place to get little gifts or whatever, you know?
00:53:02.000And I mean, this doesn't look like, and again, I don't know, because this is just the one pick, and I couldn't find anything else to actually give us a better idea, but, well, this one's another.
00:54:00.000And I do think that this is, you know, again, you're going to get backlash when you make changes to brands that have been around for a while, but I don't know that, and I don't know that this is something that people are going to be able to get over.
00:54:15.000Do you guys think that this is going to be something that will affect their attendance, or do you think that if the food is the same, people will be like, whatever?
00:54:21.000I think we're just being fuddy duddies.
00:54:23.000I think we might be fuddy duddies, but I feel like older folks who are older than us, like my dad's age, they will be like, what is this?
00:55:11.000It sounds like she's getting ready to change the menu.
00:55:13.000Yeah, then I'm going to change where I'm going to get pancakes then, huh?
00:55:16.000That would probably do even more damage, honestly.
00:55:19.000If you change the look, but if you keep the food delicious as it always has been, then maybe, maybe they can, you know, bring in new crowds.
00:55:29.000We're going to move on to this next story from the post-millennial.
00:55:33.000The DHS paints U.S.-Mexico border wall black, so it's too hot to climb.
00:55:40.000Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noam revealed Tuesday that the southern border wall between the United States and Mexico would be painted black as part of an effort to increase deterrence against illegal crossing.
00:55:51.000Speaking from Santa Teresa, New Mexico, Noam said the decision was more made.
00:55:55.000to make the wall hotter under the sun, which would make it more difficult to climb.
00:56:00.000She also noted that painting the wall black will increase the lifespan of the metal.
00:56:03.000Noam emphasized that the request came directly from President Trump.
00:56:07.000If you look at the structure that's behind me, it's high, which makes it very, very difficult to climb, almost impossible.
00:56:12.000It also goes deep into the ground, which would make it very difficult, if not impossible, to dig under.
00:56:16.000And today we are also going to be painting it black.
00:56:19.000We get a little video from Secretary Noam here.
00:56:22.000Remember that a nation without borders is no nation at all.
00:56:26.000And we're so thankful that we have a president that understands that.
00:56:28.000It understands that a secure border is important to our country's future.
00:56:32.000Now, if you look at the structure that's behind me, it's high, which makes it very, very difficult to climb, almost impossible.
00:56:39.000It also goes deep into the ground, which would make it very difficult, if not impossible, to dig under.
00:56:44.000And today, we are also going to be painting it black.
00:56:49.000That is specifically at the request of the president, who understands that in the hot temperatures down here, when something is painted black, it gets even warmer.
00:56:58.000And it will make it even harder for people to climb.
00:57:01.000So we are going to be painting the entire Southern Border Wall black to make sure that we encourage individuals to not come into our country illegally.
00:57:10.000Legally, to not break our federal laws, but that they will obey and come to our country the right way so that they can stay and have the opportunity to become United States citizens and pursue the American dream.
00:57:55.000I don't get the sense that climbing the wall was a big problem.
00:57:58.000It seems far more common that you hear about people digging under the wall and tunnels, cartels moving drugs that way as opposed to— Yeah, the tunnels, absolutely.
00:58:18.000I mean, I'm not sure how much of the wall has actually been built.
00:58:21.000I know that there are sections, but it's certainly not from the Gulf to the Pacific, that's not at all the case.
00:58:29.000So, You know, they build it, but there's still a lot.
00:58:32.000I think that it's my sense that the effect of people not coming into the country anymore, like the amount of or the fewer numbers of people that are coming in are because of policy and less because of physical barriers or what have you.
00:58:49.000Because they know they're going to get sent away right away.
00:58:51.000I mean, the more you make it difficult for people to actually come in and if you have policies that are like, hey, you have if you get caught, we're just going to send you out as opposed to you get caught and you get a hearing date when people know they can just disappear into the interior.
00:59:19.000People want to be in this country and they want to be here, most of them legally.
00:59:24.000And I don't know why we can't and why can't the Republicans figure out a way to give people an easier way to get work visas.
00:59:33.000And I mean, we did it in the past with Ellis Island and that's how my family got here.
00:59:39.000I don't know why we can't fix this issue because nobody wants the idea of the coyotes taking people because all the coyotesotes are going to do, like in the people that are coyotes.
00:59:50.000They're going to see where the wall is built and they're just going to find a way around the wall and go in a different direction.
00:59:56.000And you have people being human trafficked because they want a better life and they're desperate.
01:00:02.000We should do a better job of making it easier for people who are desperate to have a better life to have an appointment, to do the paperwork and to be here.
01:00:13.000I have a different view on immigration personally, but you were going to go ahead.
01:00:17.000Back in the day, Ellis Island, you know, what they had like five thousand a month or something great, you know, not a lot.
01:00:34.000So that's a challenge when you're trying to have people come in legally and then you have this enormous amount of legal, illegal, illegal people coming in.
01:00:42.000It's tough to, you know, make it work together.
01:00:49.000I always thought that the difficulty to get here was a feature and not a bug because they wanted the people that could afford it and the people they wanted people to bring the best and the brightest here.
01:00:59.000If it's super easy for everyone to get in, then it becomes a ch detriment to the country because the people who come in become a net negative for society rather than if you make it more difficult, more expensive, the people that come in are going to add to the economy rather than detract from it.
01:01:14.000And it's, and that's kind of interesting because, like you said, you worked under the Bush administration and it's in my lifetime seeing the way that politics has changed on the topic of immigration with both Republicans and Democrats at least paying lip service to the idea of fixing the border back.
01:01:30.000I mean, even Obama did in the early days of his first term, talked about strengthening the border, border security and things like that.
01:01:38.000And then 2016 rolls around and it's changed.
01:01:41.000completely, but it's a much more polarizing issue because it's now downstream from the race issue.
01:01:46.000And it's how different was it back then?
01:01:50.000Was that even something that was really talked about a lot during the not really as much when I was I was there, second half of the second term, so other things were kind of going on, but but I mean, I remember growing up like Regan deciding to do Amnesty because we were then going to fix it and then we didn't fix it.
01:02:08.000And we've we have to come up with the right way.
01:02:12.000And I think you're right to to be able to say, look, we have room for X number of all these different skill sets, all these different backgrounds., and we have to come up with a way to if people want to be here legally to figure out how to make that work.
01:02:26.000And you see other countries, it's very hard to immigrate there.
01:02:30.000So, for example, Italy, you have to pass an Italian fluency test.
01:02:35.000You have to show that you're going to have work to do.
01:02:37.000You have to show that you're buying property.
01:02:40.000So to your point, there's different policies that are applied.
01:02:44.000We have to figure out in the United States what do we want to be and how do we welcome different walks of life and how do we do that in a way where they can be legal and not be in the shadows.
01:02:56.000We can't fix this issue from a policy perspective.
01:02:58.000As you said, there's a deterrent right now Because we say if we catch you here illegally, you won't be allowed to apply for legal immigration.
01:03:06.000But we have to find out who we want to be as a nation and then figure out how we're going to, from a policy, allow people to be here legally or deter them from trying to be here illegally.
01:03:18.000Because there is human trafficking and suffering that goes on because we haven't we haven't made up our mind what we want to be.
01:03:25.000Well, I mean, so to that point, I do think that the American people generally have an opinion that is fairly clear, or at least the majority of them do.
01:03:33.000You know, when it comes to illegal immigration, people don't like want to have illegal immigration.
01:03:41.000They want to make sure that the border's secure.
01:03:44.000They understand the risks associated with illegal immigration, whether it be human trafficking, drug smuggling, possibly smuggling terrorists in the United States.
01:03:54.000And when you're dealing with probably 15 million or so in four years, you're talking about the possibility that a foreign country could have smuggled a literal army into the United States.
01:04:09.000And America's the only country because of the way politics are here, mostly from the left, that is, they're not every other country's allowed.
01:04:17.000to act in their own self interest when it comes to immigration policy.
01:04:20.000America is the only country where you're supposed to be allowed to be here just by virtue of America existing and other countries not being as good as America, which is also being propagated by the people that are saying that America is awful.
01:04:32.000The people that are saying America is awful are telling you that these people coming from these other countries should be able to come to our supposedly awful country because it's better than the country they live in.
01:04:43.000But whoa, you can't call their country awful because it's racist to do so.
01:04:47.000And I think that there's a lot of people that are just fed up with the double standard for a lot of that stuff.
01:04:52.000And with the way that I mean, this whole thing came up last year.
01:04:55.000with the H1B visa discussion with Elon Musk and Americans being fed up with how they feel that work is being outsourced in many ways on top of all that.
01:05:03.000And it has been very, very long time since Americans have been allowed to put their own interests first.
01:05:08.000And it's like, look, we've got ten thousand issues we need to figure out in this country, we'll worry about, you know, legal immigration being more, you know, we're going to focus on the illegal immigration now, put a stop to that.
01:05:21.000We'll focus on getting other people the opportunity to come here once we secure everyone else in this country.
01:05:26.000And I don't think that there's anything inherently wrong with that.
01:05:28.000I get the perspective of people that want it.
01:05:32.000I think one of the most important things about legal immigration is that it encourages people to come here that actually have a strong desire to be here and they want to hold American values and all that represents.
01:05:42.000But right now, we've got a lot bigger fish to fry, or at least that feels like that to me.
01:05:48.000And I will say for people who came here the right way, filled out the paperwork, paid the money, did everything, became citizens, they have said they don't like the idea that people are here illegally and that they can jump in front of the line.
01:06:02.000Peggy Noonan wrote an opinion on this many years ago where she said the reason why illegal immigration, one of the things that's really really bad about it is the first thing the person has done is they broke our nation's laws.
01:06:16.000Yeah, I mean, that again, that's something that the American people are generally on board with.
01:06:20.000They want to see the immigration situation fixed.
01:06:23.000And to be fair, like Donald Trump has really done a lot to fix it.
01:06:28.000Like if the, if the, if the Trump administration standard were the standard for the past five, six years, we wouldn't be in the situation that we are now.
01:06:38.000We wouldn't have probably 15 million illegals.
01:06:41.000There wouldn't have been almost half a million people trafficked here every year for the past, for the four years that the Biden administration was in power.
01:06:50.000There was a gas station down by the castle that was owned by this family from Tibet, and they would show me videos of people getting caught immigrating here illegally, and they were pissed.
01:07:03.000They didn't support it because they spent, you know, a good amount of all their family's capital to get them here so they could start a business and be, you know, standing members of society.
01:07:14.000So that's also, again, there was a did you see the post the other day on X from PBS that was like, X amount of support immigration?
01:07:23.000And everyone knew that it was weasel words, BS.
01:07:26.000Yes, that, you know, did you actually ask them, did they mean illegal or legal?
01:07:31.000But that's just more of the same garbage that we're getting from the media.
01:07:38.000The left loves using we're a nation of immigrants.
01:07:41.000You know, nothing against Ellis Island, but that's very false.
01:07:44.000A lot of folks moved here from European lands to get away from religious persecution, but also to colonize, to expand themselves, to expand their future, not to be some multiculturalism state land.
01:07:56.000They came here because they want to spread themselves and their family.
01:07:59.000So they're not here being an immigrant, they're colonizing.
01:08:01.000We're a nation of colonizers, just like Europe and England.
01:08:05.000So the lie of that we're a nation of immigrants, sure.
01:08:11.000You can say that, but it's very false because people came here because they wanted to be something, they wanted to venture and be forth and, you know, love life.
01:08:17.000Yeah, I mean, look, if you're coming to the United States because you want to do something and you're in a place where you don't have the economic freedom or you don't have the ability to do it, that's one thing, but if you're just looking to come to the United States so that way you can make an economic, you can get onto some kind of support.
01:08:36.000plan that the federal government offers or whatever, that's not the kind of person that you want in the country at all.
01:08:42.000And it's not racist to say we don't want to take people into the country just so they can get benefits from the United States.
01:08:50.000You look at what's going on in the UK right now, and there are a lot of people that are they're not going there because they want to be like the people in Great Britain.
01:08:58.000They don't look at themselves as anything other than economic migrants.
01:09:03.000They're going there because they can get on to the benefit roles and they can get something from the country.
01:09:13.000They don't go there because they think Britain is this great place.
01:09:16.000They don't go there because they have they believe in the history of the British Empire or because they have some kind of affinity for the royal family or anything like that.
01:09:26.000They go there because of the benefits.
01:09:28.000It may be actually anti royal family from some of the YouTube videos that I see.
01:09:34.000And that is something that is abhorrent to a country that is a free country or ostensibly a free country, right?
01:09:42.000You don't want to have people that are coming to the United States just because they're looking for an economic benefit.
01:09:48.000And that era of immigration, the Ellis Island era of immigration, it's from a time when there was America was seen as something to aspire to and there was a lot of values that we all coalesced around that's largely been dissolved as this country.'s kind of become more fractured,
01:10:05.000whether it's on demographic change, political change, different ideologies, people don't have that same, you know, melting pot view of what America is to coalesce around as a place where everyone can come together under the banner of the United States of America.
01:10:21.000We're largely fractured now, so all this stuff becomes infinitely more complicated when you don't even have a shared value system.
01:10:27.000Yeah, so we're going to jump to some breaking news right now.
01:10:30.000Nick Sorter's reporting and we've got a clip from Fox News.
01:10:34.000The Trump administration is revoking license of the employer of the foreigner who killed three people while you turning a semi truck in in Florida.
01:10:41.000Good hold employers accountable and they'll stop working with illegals.
01:10:44.000This is something that, well, let's go ahead and love this, but yeah, this is, this speaks right to my baby.
01:10:49.000Where you had an illegal alien truck driver that got a commercial driver's license in the state of California employed by a California company killed three people in Florida.
01:11:06.000And I can announce, Jesse, that I said initially the company needs to be held accountable and we've been working with the federal government and they are pulling that company's license to do business because you can't employ someone who cannot read the road signs for you.
01:11:22.000We have a problem where I've said this a couple of times on the show.
01:11:25.000My personal policy preferences when it comes to illegal immigration, right?
01:11:29.000You obviously you shut down the border.
01:11:31.000If you pick up an illegal, you send them back.
01:11:34.000But there's something that needs to be done about the companies that are actually hiring illegals because they're the draw, right?
01:11:42.000If you, you've got, and this is, it's good to see this happening that the Trump administration is going to revoke the license.
01:12:07.000I'm going to search that, but I don't think in California they have that rule and regulation as far as like because they have it and this company's hiring people to travel, you know, across state lines.
01:12:17.000So obviously the the commerce clause is involved.
01:12:20.000So the federal government does have jurisdiction.
01:12:22.000But if you hire people that are illegal, you should lose your pro, your business like totally in totality because that's the only way that you're going to make it not worth hiring illegals.
01:12:58.000Like, he probably wasn't tested properly or he did, or someone just said, well, you know, here you go because we feel bad for immigrants or I don't want to get called a racist or this is just the policy of California.
01:13:08.000I don't know the details about how he actually got it, but on the site they gave him a test.
01:13:16.000He can't speak English, which is something that I've been railing about that the, and I've, it was before the Trump administration said that they were going to make, Donald Trump said that he was going to, he made that executive order that said that English is the official language of the United States.
01:13:31.000That needs to be done by Congress, and there should be no paperwork produced by the federal government in any other language except for English.
01:13:41.000This is exactly why he couldn't read the signs.
01:13:44.000He didn't, I mean, whether or not he knew he was supposed to get, you know, whether or not he knew it was illegal for a U-turn doesn't matter, but he's he was here illegally.
01:13:53.000He couldn't read, couldn't speak English, couldn't read the signs.
01:14:14.000Like, he didn't, he got most of the questions wrong on his tests for the CDL itself.
01:14:19.000So, like, he, he wasn't supposed to drive at all.
01:14:22.000This guy and people have lost their lives because of it.
01:14:26.000The guy should get the guy should go to jail for the rest of his life, the driver and the company that hired him., they should lose their business, not just their license, but all his property, like all the business property.
01:14:38.000They have no problem, and I don't have a problem with this either.
01:14:42.000They have no problem taking all kinds of property away from people that are dealing with drugs.
01:14:46.000They have no problem taking all kinds of property away from people that have acquired their wealth through fraud.
01:14:55.000Why not from people that hired illegals?
01:14:58.000If you hire illegals, you should lose your property because that's the only way to make sure that companies don't think it's worth hiring illegals.
01:15:15.000Like, we don't want to roll over the fact that we have families who have people that are not coming home and they don't get to hug them again, and that is horrible.
01:15:27.000So it will be interesting to see from a court perspective because this happened, so there's the federal piece, then there's the Florida court piece.
01:15:35.000It will be interesting to see, can you try the owner of the company for vehicular manslaughter?
01:16:05.000Like the other thing about most of this issue with a lot of maybe not with this one specifically is like because of a mixture of like far left, we don't believe in borders policy and bleeding heart liberalism, which tells you that, you know, we have to let everyone in because they have been oppressed, you know, they are oppressed elsewhere.
01:16:24.000We need to let them in and invite them here., not even encourage them to come here legally.
01:16:30.000You're creating a slave class of people who do not have to be paid at the regular rates.
01:16:36.000But like Phil said, if these companies can bring them in illegally and pay them under the table, they will.
01:16:40.000They'll always try to get away with it.
01:16:42.000And it's been nefariously pushed forward in a way now where it's shown as a good thing to create an entire class of people who are ostensibly slaves.
01:16:50.000Yeah, Democrats love the caste system.
01:17:38.000the whole point is you need to disincentivize people from coming here.
01:17:42.000And this is actually the more compassionate way because now we've got so many people that are seeing videos of ICE going and raiding apartments and picking people up and you have people freaking out because ICE is hurting people and they're tearing families apart and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
01:18:01.000If you don't want that to happen, the next best thing is deterring people from coming here, making the people that are here illegally, right, instead of going to pick them up and having ICE have to put hands on and fighting with people or grabbing them after they come out of court for their hearing or whatever which is something that the left is freaking out about now make it so that way they people are like, you're not, if you can't prove to me that you're here legally,
01:18:30.000I'm not renting to you because I don't want to lose my whole apartment building.
01:18:48.000But the point being, the more and the more you do this, if you, if people that are here illegally can't find places to live, can't find places to work, and then people that are outside of the US that are looking to come here, if they know they can't find a place to get a job.
01:19:03.000or if they know they won't be able to get a place to live, they won't come.
01:19:08.000The people that are here will be like, I can't work here.
01:19:46.000If the government can do that, there shouldn't be any problem with taxing remittances at 95%.
01:19:51.000If the government can take your property because they think it's ill gotten gains from whatever reason, drugs from any kind of illegal, illicit activity, take their property for hiring, for employing or hiring illegals as well.
01:20:07.000I did a little bit digging and I found this article from June 20 or it's updated on the 25th of June in 2025.
01:20:13.000And this guy, Raman Dylan, I guess a Punjabi guy, was talking to Joe Biden said that when they rolled this Biden here's trucking action plan out with his administration, it was a coming crisis.
01:20:23.000So this is in June 25 when this is written and this happened in 2019.
01:20:26.000I highlighted this thing right here where he basically this is the guy, I think this is him right here, who's also Sikh, like the guy who was driver, but he points out that they repeatedly tried to tell the Biden administration that the bigger problem is you're just issuing these licenses when they don't know English enough to pass the exam.
01:20:41.000He's like, give me a reason why you wanted to test in Punjabi.
01:20:44.000Most of the schools in California have opened schools in Utah because in Utah there's third party testing.
01:20:48.000Like he literally pointed out that this was going to happen a month or so before, if not like a while before, and like here we are, it's happening.
01:20:55.000All the stuff that they've been saying for so so long.
01:20:57.000It's all literally coming to fruition.
01:20:59.000All the stuff we said is this is going to be bad.
01:21:03.000And whether it's an illegal committing murder, rapes and murders, which you see, you hear stories frequently about, or whether it's an illegal here that gets into a car accident, or any number of other terrible things that happen that wouldn't have happened if that person wasn't here.
01:21:21.000Forget about any of the other stuff, not whether it's intentional or a crime or whatever, just the fact that because that person was inside the United States, these things happened, whether they're crimes or accidents, those are things that do not have to happen.
01:21:38.000If the government had done what it's supposed to do, which is enforce the border, enforce the restriction on people coming into the United States and actually follow the law, and Democrats love to say no one's above the law, but they will let foreign immigrants, criminal aliens, they will let them skirt the law so that way they can have more people.
01:22:03.000The reason they want to have more people in the United States is for the census so that way they can get more representation for Democrats in the Congress.
01:22:16.000The Bureau of Health and Human Services had a program called the Refugee Resettlement Program where they would ship people in.
01:22:24.000They would literally put them on planes, ship them all over the country, ship them to purple states and ship them to blue states again because they want those census numbers.
01:22:32.000It wasn't about as much as I do think that there were probably people that are voting illegally, I don't think that they were illegally voting in numbers great enough to actually affect the outcome of the elections, but I don't think that that was the plan.
01:22:45.000The plan was to get the kind of representation in Congress because of the census and through the census.
01:22:51.000You know, if you increase the number of people in blue states, you increase the.
01:22:57.000You can get better representation on the Democrat side in Congress, you know, when the census comes through, because the way that the census is done or the way that the representation in Congress is counted is not by citizens.
01:23:15.000So I think that the repercussions for hiring or...
01:23:31.000I love the fact that the Trump administration is going to revoke the license of this company that hired this guy, but I don't think it's enough.
01:24:16.000You know, so all right, we're going to jump to this next story from the post millennial breaking.
01:24:21.000Woke Target CEO resigns amid boycotts, declining sales.
01:24:26.000Target announced Wednesday that longtime chief executive Brian Cornell will step down next year as the retailer deals with sales declines and stacking controversies from both sides of the political aisle.
01:24:36.000Chief operating officer Michael Fittical has been named as his successor reports CNN.
01:24:42.000Cornell took over in 2014 and was credited with bringing life to the brand a decade ago, but has struggled in recent years as Target faced drops in revenues in the post pandemic economy.
01:24:53.000In the first quarter of twenty twenty five, sales fell more sharply and executives have warned that the downward trend is likely to continue throughout the end of the year.
01:25:01.000The retailer, which operates nearly two thousand stores nationwide, has blamed consumer spending amid economic uncertainty and tariffs.
01:25:09.000The company has been hit by boycotts that have taken its toll.
01:25:13.000Customers objected to its diversity and inclusion initiatives, which the company paired back in January after criticism from conservatives and the White House.
01:25:22.000At the same time, Target has faced backlash from progressives.
01:25:26.000The Pride Reporter reported in July that many black Americans were boycotting large retailers including Target and Amazon, while a petition drive earlier in the year gathered more than 250,000 signatures from customers, promising to stop shopping at Target.
01:25:39.000The cultural battles intensified with the release of Pride merchandise in 2023, including children's items and tuck friendly swimsuits, which triggered a conservative lead boycott.
01:25:49.000That campaign, combined with a resurface 2015 advertisement featuring children in a Pride Month promotion, fueled further outrage.
01:25:57.000The video, which ends with the line We're not born with pride, we take pride in celebrating who we were born to be, has circulated widely online in recent weeks, renewing criticism from opponents.
01:26:08.000It is never a good idea to have children involved with LGBT stuff because children are not sexual beings.
01:26:20.000That should be something that is as obvious as any other obvious thing, as plain as the nose on my face, right?
01:27:15.000So like you're going to go outside a Target right now and there's going to be people celebrating.
01:27:19.000There's going to be like a conservative person and like a blue haired person.
01:27:24.000They're both going to be be cheering for the demise of Target.
01:27:27.000It's the first time they've had something in common in a long time.
01:27:29.000But it's not blue hair, it's apparently black Americans.
01:27:33.000I mean, I saw a lot of different progressive people for a long time have been talking about boycotting Target because of their rolling back of DEI policies.
01:29:35.000But the, so the, the stuff about Target, right, like they're getting hit from both sides because there were, first there were the people that were, in my opinion, legitimately, yeah, legitimately outraged about the LGBT stuff that they were putting up.
01:29:49.000A lot of the, the artists that they had designing some of the LGBT stuff for, again, for that were for children, right?
01:29:57.000I don't think the tux stuff was actually the tux swimsuits that they were talking about.
01:30:00.000I don't think that was actually for children, but they were on sale near the children's stuff.
01:30:06.000But like the the designs, there was some really questionable designs that the artist had done in other contexts as well.
01:30:14.000And of course, people went and they found it.
01:30:16.000A lot of it was a lot of Satanist stuff and a lot of a lot of some really, really things that like, look, I'm a 50-year-old guy that's like, I'm from, I'm in a metal band and my background is in some of the most offensive death metal from the 90s.
01:30:50.000Because I mean, when you do go into a Target for school supplies, because you get the list, this is back to school time, right?
01:30:56.000And so, and I don't know when this display was happening, but typically when you walk in the front door, to the left is where the children's section usually is, is towards the front.
01:31:06.000And you have to walk past the children's section to get to the school supplies, usually, at least the stores in North Carolina.
01:31:12.000I just feel like, look, post pandemic, people were, people were kind of.
01:31:19.000Amazon has taken over a huge amount of the marketplace.
01:31:23.000I just feel like that more than these boycotts, which I bet you if you went on the street tomorrow and you asked a bunch of normies like what they think of Target, they're not going to bring up tucking swimsuits and they're not going to bring up DEI policies, they're going to say, I go to Amazon.
01:31:36.000No, well, I tell you, it is true, but I do think like Target's delivery service, like it is every bit as fast and as quality as Amazon.
01:31:45.000Amazon's easier because of the app, I think.
01:31:48.000But the service from Target is very good.
01:31:52.000So from the post millennium, they were saying at the same time, Target has has faced backlash from the progressives.
01:31:56.000The Guardian reported in July that many black Americans were booking, boycotting large retailers including Target and Amazon.
01:32:01.000While a petition drive earlier in the year gathered more than 250,000 signatures to stop to 250,000 signatures from consumers pledging to stop shopping at Target.
01:32:09.000Look, that's a lot of the boycott against the ending of DEI stuff.
01:32:14.000So progressives are saying, look, if you're not going to basically, you know, use unfair hiring practices, we're not going to shop at your store.
01:32:24.000I don't imagine just because of numbers, right?
01:32:28.000The number of people that would be shopping at Target, like the number of black Americicans that there are in comparison to the number of white and Hispanic and Asian Americans.
01:32:38.000I don't think that this is actually a compelling boycott.
01:32:41.000This is probably something that they're going to make a bunch of noise about, but I can't imagine that this actually has an effect on the sales that Target has.
01:32:49.000It does better for your internet engagement if you want to talk about this stuff than it does actually affect their bottom line for the most part.
01:32:57.000At least I would imagine that that's true.
01:32:59.000And knowing just black people in general, they are not LGBTQ AI plus friendly.
01:33:35.000Well, and isn't the American consumer pulling back a little?
01:33:38.000Have there been some discussions around buy now pay later plans and also, you know, pulling back a little on spending.
01:33:47.000So I wonder if we compared Target in store sales to Walmart in store sales and other kinds of similar retail, if that's down.
01:33:57.000And I think you're right, the online shopping, it's a thing.
01:34:01.000So there are certain things that people are just going to buy online now because they got used to it during the pandemic.
01:34:06.000Well, yeah, and like a big part of the selling point point for women, like for women, was like, we go for one thing and I leave with two hundred dollars worth of stuff, right?
01:34:13.000But if they're not going to the store at all anymore because they're staying home and they're buying their stuff there, I mean, certainly, you'll still get the ones that go do that, but just not in the numbers that you were getting before.
01:34:41.000From the New York Post, ex Space Force Sergeant Oris Shure sentenced to fifty four years in prison for fatally shooting suspected teen car thief.
01:34:50.000A former U.S. Space Force sergeant who fired multiple rounds at two suspected car jackers outside his home killing a fourteen year old has been sentenced to over half a century in jail.
01:35:00.000Oris Shure, twenty nine, became emotional as he apologized for murdering fourteen year old Xavier Kirk before he was sentenced to fifty four years in prison for the twenty twenty three fatal shooting, the Adams Broomfield County's District Attorney's Office announced.
01:35:14.000I'm sorry for the events that occurred that night, for the pain, for the grief, and trauma that have followed, and for the impact that my case had on so many lives, a tearful Shurr told Aurora, Colorado courtroom on August 15.
01:35:26.000The deadly shooting also left a thirteen year old hospitalized.
01:35:30.000Shurr, a technical sergeant with the U.S. Space Force based in Aurora, was awakened by a car alarm outside his apartment at eleven PM, july fifth, twenty twenty three.
01:35:39.000The then twenty seven year old grabbed a pistol, ran outside to his Hyundai Elantro where he spotted two people dressed in all black attempting to break into the car.
01:35:46.000Shur confronted the individuals, but the would be carjackers fled in another car.
01:35:51.000The sergeant gave chase in his car and fired multiple rounds at the teens.
01:35:55.000The fleeing car crashed into the backyard fence of a home four blocks south of Shur's residence.
01:36:00.000Kirk and his teen accomplices hopped out of the damaged car and began running away as Shur continued to fire.
01:36:06.000Kirk was found suffering from a gunshot wounds to the head and back.
01:36:09.000He was transported to a local hospital and pronounced dead.
01:36:12.000The thirteen year old who was driving the getaway car was shot in the back and managed to get to a relative's house before being brought to the hospital and survived.
01:36:19.000Shur was arrested after the shooting and charged with first degree murder and first degree attempted murder.
01:36:24.000A juror found the discharged Space Force sergeant guilty of the lesser crimes of second degree murder and second degree attempted murder on june sixteenth.
01:36:32.000During the trial, Shur claimed the two potential carjackers had shot first and he was acting in self defense.
01:36:37.000Investigators found eleven shell casings were fired all by Shur included there was no evidence that either teen was armed during the robbery.
01:36:45.000Adams County District Court Judge Karen Datz argued the trained military sergeant should have known not to take lethal action.
01:36:53.000CBS News, Colorado reported the former sergeant faced up to eighty years in jail.
01:36:58.000This was a vigilante violence at its worst and now a young man is dead, said Adams and Broomfield County District Attorney Brian Mason.
01:37:07.000The defendant took the law into his own hands, chased down a fleeing vehicle, and opened fire on its occupants.
01:37:12.000A fourteen year old boy will now never grow up because of the defendant's actions.
01:37:16.000Kirk's family called out Shur during the hearing, questioning why he shot at unarmed boys.
01:37:21.000What mister Shur did to my son and his friend to chase them down and execute him over a car that they didn't even take is ludicrous, Kirk's father told the courtroom.
01:37:29.000Other relatives deflected from the teen's brazen attempt attempted car jacking to focus on Shur's shooting.
01:37:35.000You know, kids make mistakes, and so I always teach my kids in my family like my nephews and nieces about consequences and repercussions, said another relative.
01:37:42.000The outlet reported, We're not trying to excuse any wrongdoing of Xavier or wrong they were involved in.
01:37:47.000The part that's messed up is Ori Sure's car was never stolen.
01:37:51.000Look, obviously this guy had done, you know, it was a terrible idea to chase them down, shooting at them, driving down the road is a like that is begging for a problem.
01:38:07.000It's begging for innocent people to get hurt.
01:38:11.000I'm not sure if fifty four years is the right sentence, but you know, look, he killed a kid.
01:38:20.000I will say that I think that if there were more or more significant consequences to people that were, you know, to young kids that were breaking the law, this might not have happened because look, there are a lot of kids out there that actually break the law because they say, look man, nothing's going to happen to me.
01:38:43.000And there are people that are, and not that this is one of those cases.
01:38:45.000I don't, I don't, I don't think that this is, this is indicative of this, but there are people out there that will have kids go do things because they're young.
01:38:54.000Because if they get caughtht, the, uh, it will be wiped from their record when they turn eighteen.
01:39:02.000So it's really using children to violate the law, uh, you know, and it's using them, manipulating them into doing things that they shouldn't be doing that will only make them into or only make them more likely to commit crime in the future.
01:39:18.000Do you guys have a sense that this is that this is something that that do you think that he he got the sentence he deserved or I mean, I think long prison terms for the kids is going to put them into the criminal industrial complex forever anyways.
01:39:31.000So, I mean, as we know, like once once once you're once you're once you have a felony on your record, it's very, very hard to get out from under that if you try to go back to being a standing member of society.
01:39:52.000Like he shouldn't have, like he shouldn't have chased them down.
01:39:54.000And I'm sure that there's going to be some people saying along the lines of what you're saying, but once they're off your property and this isn't something like castle doctrine, this is not something that most people are going to be able to find defensible in any way.
01:40:07.000And then a lot of folks will like say, hey, this white guy shot these kids.
01:40:49.000And that would be all, you know what I mean?
01:40:50.000Look, it like just moving and shooting isoting and getting accurate hits on a target that's, you know, even if you're only 10 yards, 15 yards away, if you're walking like that, that's not super easy.
01:41:04.000Like it's actually fairly difficult to be accurate with a handgun, which is a 3.5, 4 inch barrel, you know, and to be able to hit your target consistently.
01:41:20.000You know, the idea that you're going to sit there and have a handgun out the window and drive with the other hand and make accurate shots, like that's just not happening.
01:41:30.000I looked up to see if he was drinking.
01:41:31.000Like, why would you chase these people people down the street?
01:41:33.000I mean, they went to steal, and the family says they didn't steal a car, which is a stupid argument.
01:41:38.000They were going to steal the car, so don't use that argument, family.
01:41:41.000Well, they shouldn't be dead, by the way.
01:42:18.000And again, like the casual, we have a life lost.
01:42:23.000He's going to spend all this time in jail.
01:42:25.000We have a family who had to bury their child, and so, arguably, they were doing something wrong and he, you know, his kids need rehabilitation.
01:42:35.000You know, the the kid that lived, people need to watch out for him and help him along so that he can not have a life of crime.
01:42:43.000But he could have, like, the devastation could have been much worse.
01:42:48.000He could have hit all kinds of bystanders doing this.
01:42:51.000And so for, I mean, I think they had to say he's going to spend basically the rest of his life in jail because you can't have people taking matters into their own hands like that.
01:43:00.000And those are like two, like what Phil brought up before about like if the punishments were more severe for the kids.
01:43:05.000So like, those are, they're vastly separate discussions.
01:43:08.000And just the fact that he went after them is where most people are going to draw their line.
01:43:12.000You know, you could have a whole discussion about people who get shot when they break into your home.
01:43:18.000And everyone here and most rational people are going to say, well, you broke into another person's home.
01:43:23.000What the hell did you expect to happen, right?
01:43:25.000But the second, and again, this is a different nuanced discussion where the second you leave the property, the immediate threat to your own life is gone, is no longer there, and it becomes a completely different situation in the eyes of the law.
01:43:37.000So, like, to me, the discussion about the deterrence about their, you know, if they were charged at a higher rate or maybe charged as adults, that seems kind of small in comparison to what this guy actually did, which was something vastly different than most people are going to accept.
01:44:52.000We're not going to, your car didn't get taken.
01:44:56.000The fact that people feel like they're just waiting to be victimized.
01:45:00.000Now again, this guy totally broke the law, he went way, way beyond anything reasonable.
01:45:08.000But I do think that it's probably because that's kind of the feeling of all we're doing is waiting to be victimized and the police don't do anything.
01:45:54.000The kids that do get picked up, they don't actually, and nothing happens to them because they're just kids or because they're soft on crime DAs.
01:46:02.000Because, you know, I think that's likely what this guy was thinking and it doesn't, doesn't make anything better.
01:46:08.000But do you guys think that there's any policy that can fix this aside from people trying to get better DAs?
01:46:16.000And if that is the case, how do you get better DAs?
01:46:19.000This happened under Joe Biden in 2023, the great unifier, and Joe Biden would have told him to shoot him in the legs.
01:46:28.000That's exactly what you should have done.
01:46:58.000If they had been arrested, if he had called the police, done everything as he was supposed to be, the police magically appear in ten seconds just as they're pulling out of his garageway.
01:47:28.000The best thing you can hope for is that they end up in jail for a couple of years rather than just not being prosecuted at all.
01:47:34.000Theoretically then supposedly they learn the error of their ways while in jail and that's like the best you can hope for because they're minors.
01:47:43.000Yeah, I mean, if you don't have proper law enforcement and that includes prosecution and jail, then you're going to have a population that feels like they're not going to be protectedcted by the state and they'll want to take the law into their own hands.
01:48:00.000And I mean, there is an argument that can be made that's like, look, if people don't do feel like they can defend their own property.
01:48:15.000But if, if, if a society says, look, if you try to steal people's stuff, you know, then you're going, you're risking some kind of self-defense situation, right?
01:48:28.000If you're, what everyone knows that if you go into someone's house, that, you know, like you said, it's generally thought of.
01:48:36.000But even that, there are some states where you're not, you can't New Jersey,sey, Massachusetts, I don't know about California, but if you go into someone's home in certain states, you have to retreat, leave the house if you can leave and get out.
01:48:47.000And that happens a lot with people when you get your concealing carrier, right?
01:48:50.000Because they have to talk about it in many states.
01:48:52.000Like, even if you have a justifiable threat against your life, if you get a DA that wants to, they'll prosecute anyway.
01:48:59.000People don't feel like they can defend themselves.
01:49:00.000Yeah, no matter what happens, you're probably going, if you have to use your handgun or your gun in a self defense situation, even if it's in your own house, you're probably going to have to get arrested.
01:49:12.000They're probably going to take that weapon from you.
01:49:15.000They might take all your guns while you are while the process is ongoing, right?
01:49:20.000So nobody really wants to use a gun in their in their house because the government will is going to do government things.
01:49:27.000Now you can defend yourself and be found not guilty of murder or maybe they'll find that it was justifiable, but you're still going to have to pay a boatload of money, right?
01:49:38.000Like you're still going to have to pay a quarter of a million dollars in legal fees and and lawyer fees.
01:50:09.000And that's, I think, that this is emblematic of that, whereas even though he did the wrong thing, broke, broke plenty of laws, and it's probably justified that he goes to jail, that doesn't change the fact that he probably felt like this was justified because the government wasn't going to do anything for him.
01:50:29.000And if the AG and everyone keeps going on this path, I think I said a couple of years ago, vigilantes, vigilantes are going to be on the rise.
01:50:36.000It was like the couple outside of their house with the guns with the horrible sugar discipline.
01:50:41.000Yeah, I mean, one of them was a real gun.
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01:52:25.000Is he having trouble yester yesterday on the show.
01:52:28.000There was all sorts of funny business going on.
01:52:42.000From, uh, from Conrad Marcinic, is that it, Marc Marcinic anyways you can say my name why are we not talking about arming and mandating it that all schools should have proper security we have the votes seems like reps want to moan rather than get the real thing done Republicans do want to moan that is generally the truth I think that the Democrats generally say things like oh we don't wantt want guns around our kids and
01:53:12.000play up the idea that kids are going to be scarred.
01:53:16.000One of the things that they like to say is things like, oh, look, if kids see guns, they're not going to be able to learn.
01:53:22.000The part of the way that they got no guns in school zones, one of the, and I don't know that it was, it may not have been actually, it may not have been successful, but they were trying this argument.
01:53:35.000They said, look, the government's lawyers said, look, we don't think that people should be allowed to exercise their Second Amendment if you're in a school zone because if kids are in a in a school and there are people that have guns around this will affect their ability to learn and their ability learn means that that will directly affect interstate commerce.
01:54:01.000They use the commerce clause as justification to prohibit guns from from school zones.
01:54:10.000So now again, I don't recall if they were successful, but that's what the government likes to do.
01:54:17.000They like to say, look, the commerce clause, that's the thing.
01:54:20.000And the argument of, you know, kids are so sensitive and if they see guns, that's an argument.
01:54:24.000they've used before, and it's the argument that Democrats make as to why you don't want armed guards around schools.
01:56:24.000I mean, the thing is, all Americans are going to be impacted if we don't have the right energy policy.
01:56:30.000So that really is what it comes down to.
01:56:32.000So if we don't have the right energy policy, we're not going to be an economic power as it relates to technology.
01:56:38.000That's and if we aren't going to open up our energy policy and we pursue our ambitions around being a technology powerhouse in the world, then small business, hospitals, residential areas could potentially suffer because our power sources can't handle it all.
01:56:59.000So I think that's the impact that it has.
01:57:04.000Yeah, I mean, it's like we were saying earlier, like power generation is probably the most important thing that the United States, the federal government should be doing when it comes to infrastructure because without being able to generate enough power, we're not going to be able to compete against China when it comes to AI.
01:57:24.000And AI is the actual, it's going to be the biggest thing definitely in all of our lives.
01:57:34.000Shane H. Wilder says Texas redistricting bill passed 88 to 52.
01:57:39.000Texas Dems are already preparing for lawsuits on the basis of race, which will go nowhere since the lawsuit for the 2021 redistricting still hasn't been heard.
01:57:49.000Look, I mean, if they vote for it, right, if the legislature votes for it, I don't understand how they think that they'd be able to undo it considering there's no basis for this being a race issue.
01:58:04.000Is that why they left in the first place back a couple of years ago?
01:58:06.000Well, I keep bringing up that Chet was telling me that, you know, 50 people left.
01:58:10.000Was that because of the 2021 redistricting or something?
01:58:45.000of the things that that conservatives or one of the arguments conservatives always make when it comes to raising taxes when people are like oh you should tax billionaires.
01:58:54.000There shouldn't be billionaires, et cetera.
01:58:58.000And the idea that they're not going to leave is ridiculous.
01:59:02.000You want, I mean, if you're, if you're going to tell Elon Musk that, that you're going to tax his, you're tax his business, what you're really telling him is we're going to nationalize your businesses.
01:59:13.000We're going to take your business from you, right?
01:59:16.000And he's done nothing wrong other than be successful.
01:59:20.000Do you think that the federal government is going to be able to run Tesla?
01:59:24.000Do you think the federal government could run SpaceX?
01:59:30.000You know, they're not going to be able to run.
01:59:32.000I don't want them running X. I don't want them, I don't, I mean, actually, to be honest with you, I don't really care if they run the boring company because as of right now, I'm not sure the utility of the boring company.
01:59:44.000But look, Elon Musk is way smarter than me and I'm sure he's got a great plan for the boring company.
01:59:49.000So maybe it's just something I'm not seeing and I don't want the federal government running the boring company either.
01:59:54.000I don't want the federal government running PCC.
02:00:39.000Can we just kick out the older people and keep the young ones and then put them in the schools for learning for immigrants and or illegal education?
02:01:34.000There's also like, there's like 60 years of propaganda from Hollywood telling you that if you complain about someone not speaking English in America, you're a bad person.
02:01:45.000Making you seem uncultured and stupid because someone is in your country speaking a language you don't speak.
02:01:51.000And that's kind of burrowed its way into the mainstream average liberals' brains so that they don't look at policies like this having actual consequences for American citizens.
02:02:08.000your fruits and vegetables and whatnot to people in cities or whatever around the world, then you're valuable to the world, to the United States of America.
02:03:00.000It's all different types of social issues, how AI algorithms, deepfakes, and other things kind of permeate their way around the world and impact how we talk to each other.
02:03:12.000That book sounds very interesting, to be honest.
02:03:16.000The manipulation campaign around what's going on today, it's very prevalent.
02:03:19.000Yeah, it's interesting because, you know, propaganda has been around the world since there were two people walking on Earth, but it's been interesting to see how it evolves at speed and scale.
02:03:30.000You know, back in the day, like Russia, for example, used to have to try to embed people in America and see over a long period of time whether or not things worked, and now anyone, not just Russia, but anyone can post things on social media and see through clicks and likes and mentions whether or not a propaganda campaign is actually working.