Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - April 17, 2026


The ESKRIDGE CONSPIRACY, 11 UFO Scientists MISSING, Trump Calls For INVESTIGATION


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00:01:15.000 Spotted over the military base where an Air Force scientist went missing.
00:01:18.000 And now, an update 11 scientists tied to space travel and future technologies have either gone missing or been killed.
00:01:28.000 With the latest news about a woman who allegedly took her own life, and she had been researching anti gravity, and she was fairly young.
00:01:38.000 Now, the Trump administration has addressed this.
00:01:40.000 They're going to look into it, we'll see.
00:01:42.000 And more GOP reps are coming out saying, The things I have seen will shock you.
00:01:48.000 That there's certain information that you might get classified that will make you a target.
00:01:53.000 Are they lying?
00:01:54.000 Are they all just pulling one big prank on us?
00:01:57.000 Or is there going to be some kind of, I don't know, is this the precursor to some greater revelation?
00:02:03.000 I don't know, man.
00:02:04.000 Maybe aliens are real.
00:02:05.000 Maybe it was lizards underground the whole time.
00:02:08.000 So that's going to be fun.
00:02:09.000 We're talking about that because there is breaking news, but it's Friday.
00:02:11.000 So I figured we'd have some fun with it.
00:02:13.000 Trump said the war is over again.
00:02:15.000 All right.
00:02:16.000 It's like the fourth time the war has ended.
00:02:18.000 Iran says the strait is open.
00:02:20.000 Trump says we're going to keep the blockade for the time being.
00:02:22.000 We're going to take all their nuclear dust from them, which is not dust, but Trump's saying that because he keeps telling us he's blown up their uranium supplies.
00:02:32.000 So we'll get into all that news and break it down.
00:02:34.000 And then, oh boy, this will be fun.
00:02:36.000 Elon Musk says it's time for a high income UBI, which makes no sense.
00:02:42.000 But let's hear what Elon has to say.
00:02:44.000 And then we're going to round it out because I feel like it.
00:02:47.000 The feminists are all mad at me.
00:02:48.000 They're yelling at me because I said that there are men's jobs and there are women's jobs.
00:02:52.000 And I'm just going to give you a little spoiler.
00:02:54.000 Hilariously, this woman responds with Tim, you sit at a table and talk into a microphone.
00:02:59.000 You don't have calluses on your hand at all.
00:03:02.000 Actually, I've been playing the guitar for 30 years.
00:03:04.000 My hands are very calloused.
00:03:05.000 And more importantly, two thirds of podcasts are run by men.
00:03:09.000 Man's job.
00:03:10.000 Thanks for proving my point.
00:03:11.000 Before we get to the news, my friends, go to castbrew.com and buy coffee.
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00:03:32.000 Two weeks till Christmas, even though I think it's been two years since.
00:03:35.000 And Ian's graphene dream, of course.
00:03:37.000 Head over to Casbrew.com and pick up coffee.
00:03:40.000 I got to be honest.
00:03:42.000 This is the best coffee you'll ever have.
00:03:43.000 No joke.
00:03:44.000 I mean it.
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00:03:49.000 I have not had better coffee in my life.
00:03:52.000 I am being fully serious.
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00:04:01.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we got Tony Ortiz.
00:04:04.000 Thanks for having me.
00:04:05.000 Who are you?
00:04:06.000 I run Current Revolt.
00:04:06.000 What do you do?
00:04:08.000 We are like a TMZ for Texas news.
00:04:10.000 So, if you're a Texan, we are a must subscribe.
00:04:12.000 Like, you have to subscribe.
00:04:13.000 If you're in Texas, So, like stories about women setting themselves on fire.
00:04:17.000 Yeah, we broke that.
00:04:18.000 We broke that back in September, and it took mainstream media until like really last month to really fully cover it.
00:04:25.000 So, we broke it all the way back in September, and it's kind of funny.
00:04:29.000 There were so many.
00:04:30.000 I was being sent screenshots of conversations of mainstream journalists calling me fake news, and now they're the ones covering it.
00:04:36.000 Wow.
00:04:36.000 Yeah.
00:04:37.000 Ian's hanging out.
00:04:38.000 Good to see you guys.
00:04:38.000 Hey, man.
00:04:39.000 We also got TB in the house.
00:04:40.000 Tate Brown, look at this.
00:04:41.000 What is going on?
00:04:42.000 All this is what TB means.
00:04:42.000 Tuberculosis.
00:04:43.000 But in this case, it's me, Tate Brown.
00:04:45.000 Good to have you.
00:04:45.000 Gonna have another fellow Texan.
00:04:47.000 Gonna have you, Tony.
00:04:47.000 Thank you.
00:04:48.000 I'm just gonna call you Big Brown from now on.
00:04:50.000 Big Brown.
00:04:51.000 Browning of America.
00:04:52.000 That'd be my podcast.
00:04:53.000 Browning of America.
00:04:54.000 Yeah.
00:04:55.000 Or Fresh Baked Brownies.
00:04:57.000 My brown friend.
00:05:00.000 We got a brown guy on the show.
00:05:01.000 Yeah, that's true.
00:05:02.000 One brown guy.
00:05:03.000 When you see me, you think, wow, that guy's clearly ethnic.
00:05:05.000 Yeah, that's true.
00:05:06.000 Shall we talk about news instead of whatever that was?
00:05:06.000 That's what I think.
00:05:08.000 I want to talk about our.
00:05:09.000 Yeah, the news is.
00:05:09.000 Yeah, tape.
00:05:11.000 Okay, here's the New York Post.
00:05:12.000 String of missing or dead scientists.
00:05:15.000 Too coincidental, not.
00:05:17.000 To be major concern, Congressman says, as the 11th mystery emerges.
00:05:23.000 They said the death or disappearance of 11 top U.S. scientists and researchers is a matter of urgent national importance.
00:05:29.000 Rep. Eric Burleson said his office had already been eyeing some of the two coincidental disappearances a year before Trump told reporters Thursday he had ordered an investigation.
00:05:38.000 The lawmaker argued the fate of scientists almost certainly linked to the access some had to classified aerospace, defense, or UFO information and may involve bad actors from China, Russia, or Iran.
00:05:48.000 So check it out.
00:05:49.000 Amy Eskridge died from a self inflicted gunshot wound at her Alabama home in 2022, and she was researching anti gravity.
00:05:57.000 That's just crazy.
00:05:58.000 Some of the scientists literally just disappeared without a trace.
00:06:02.000 Okay, so wild story.
00:06:05.000 We actually have, check out this image.
00:06:07.000 Let me see if I actually can find a better version of it.
00:06:10.000 Links between the missing and dead officials.
00:06:13.000 So Frank Meywald, Carl Grillmare both worked at JPL.
00:06:18.000 Monica Jacinto Reza did as well.
00:06:20.000 She received funding from.
00:06:22.000 Air Force, was it Wright Patterson?
00:06:25.000 And oversaw the.
00:06:28.000 Okay, so this is.
00:06:29.000 Her project was overseen by William Neal McCasland, who also worked at Kirtland, which collaborated with Los Alamos, where Anthony Chavez and Melissa Cassius, and then you've got.
00:06:42.000 Oh, you've also got Michael David Hicks, dead, linked to JPL, worked on deflecting asteroids from Earth.
00:06:49.000 Theories.
00:06:50.000 Okay, I'm going to go this one.
00:06:52.000 I have seen.
00:06:53.000 Every movie where the great catastrophe is heading to Earth, so the government goes to round people up.
00:06:58.000 You know what I'm talking about, right?
00:06:59.000 The helicopter lands in the backyard, and the guy's out there with his kid.
00:07:03.000 Independence, we need you.
00:07:05.000 Yeah, and they're like, Mr. Crossland, the president needs you.
00:07:09.000 Come with us.
00:07:09.000 What?
00:07:10.000 Or, what was it, Arrival with Amy Adams?
00:07:14.000 They show up and they're like, you have to come with us.
00:07:16.000 So here's what's happened.
00:07:18.000 Okay, let's start with the poles are about to shift, causing a great flood.
00:07:22.000 So they're rescuing top mines to bring them to deep underground bases in Appalachia.
00:07:26.000 I think literally that might be the case.
00:07:28.000 And if the other proves are going rogue or refusing, they're killing them.
00:07:32.000 Yep.
00:07:32.000 Well, is that the new Project Hail Mary movie where they try to rope them in?
00:07:32.000 Yeah.
00:07:35.000 He says no.
00:07:36.000 So then they just inject them with a serum and knock them out.
00:07:37.000 Oh, I haven't seen it.
00:07:38.000 Thanks for spoiling it.
00:07:39.000 I was going to go see it this weekend.
00:07:40.000 Oh, that's just the old one.
00:07:42.000 And when we just came out, you just spoiled them.
00:07:43.000 No, no, that's not spoiled.
00:07:44.000 Bleep that in Polish.
00:07:45.000 No, no, that's not spoiled.
00:07:46.000 Bleep that in Polish.
00:07:47.000 Oh, we can bleep it, technically.
00:07:48.000 We can bleep it.
00:07:49.000 It's on the trailer.
00:07:51.000 Why would they kill them, though?
00:07:52.000 Just because they don't want to.
00:07:53.000 So, all joking aside, let's remove the actual tilt conspiracy.
00:07:57.000 People really love the story of the earth flipping and then the flood coming.
00:08:00.000 Is that a real thing?
00:08:01.000 I mean, I know it's happened, but I guess it's not a real thing.
00:08:05.000 Well, so the real theory, mainstream science, is that the poles are shifting.
00:08:08.000 We're experiencing an extended excursion from the North Pole into Siberia, where it's normally tilted over Canada.
00:08:14.000 So, we are also, I think, 100,000 years past the average cycle of when the poles normally flip.
00:08:20.000 The mainstream view is it's not going to happen, calm down.
00:08:23.000 If it does, the magnetosphere will weaken and will get blasted by solar radiation, which will fry all our electronics.
00:08:29.000 The Adam and Eve conspiracy theory is that every time this happens, it's actually 6,500 years, not 400 or 500,000.
00:08:35.000 The Earth will also rotate 90 degrees, causing water to flood around everything, sloshing about, and it'll wipe out most civilizations.
00:08:42.000 Which is interesting because carbon dating is not a lot of erosion and heat can make it look like time has passed.
00:08:47.000 So that makes it could make sense that 6,000 years looks like 40,000 in the fossil record.
00:08:52.000 It looks like a giant server reset.
00:08:54.000 Yeah, well, let's throw that all out.
00:08:56.000 I mean, it's a fun story and people really love it, but it wouldn't really make sense they'd kill people.
00:09:00.000 What does make more sense is that we're on the verge of World War III.
00:09:04.000 China's super pissed about what's going on in Iran.
00:09:07.000 Trump is saying the strait's going to be open, but we're still blockading Iranian ports, which means China's still going to be cut off from some of its energy access, though the fuel that it gets from the other Gulf states will be fine.
00:09:16.000 The problem is Qatar has stopped producing LNG, liquid natural gas, so China's still largely cut off and hurting economically.
00:09:24.000 If we are on the verge of a major war, Imagine the governments going to these people and saying, You need to come with us now and work on this base.
00:09:32.000 There's two theories.
00:09:34.000 One, the U.S. government rushed full speed to the missing scientists and said, You need to come with us now.
00:09:41.000 China, Russia, Iran, who knows, executed these assassinated these other scientists, taking out powerful elements of U.S. weapons development programs.
00:09:51.000 Or the military went to these people and said, You will join the new Manhattan Project.
00:09:57.000 And when these researchers said, I'm not going to be party to weapons of mass destruction, they went, Bang!
00:10:02.000 It's also possible that the Chinese took these scientists, they went rogue to other countries, and that the U.S. government found out some of these other scientists were working for the Chinese, so they killed them.
00:10:13.000 Possible.
00:10:13.000 That's true, too.
00:10:14.000 I mean, whoa.
00:10:15.000 Like, imagine these researchers were on the pay with the Thousand Talents program.
00:10:18.000 You guys know about that one?
00:10:19.000 Yeah.
00:10:20.000 There was that one professor who was caught taking money from China and selling off our IP, our intellectual property, from research we were funding.
00:10:28.000 What if, like, special agents, like guys in suits with, you know, silenced PP7, James Bond style, that goes to this lady and they're like, you've been revealing secrets, you know, you're a traitor.
00:10:39.000 Wouldn't it be better to just arrest them?
00:10:41.000 If that's the case, wouldn't it be better just to arrest them and, like, send a message and be like, yeah, we're.
00:10:45.000 No, because then they can talk.
00:10:47.000 I think the best thing you could do is make a message to all the other scientists that might be on the pay.
00:10:51.000 Well, but if that were true, that at least say one person was found to be a traitor and a spy or whatever.
00:10:56.000 And kill the rest, maybe.
00:10:57.000 Yeah, like, to make an example.
00:10:59.000 People need to know.
00:11:01.000 To be fair, however, with 11 dead or missing scientists, it's possible anybody breaking is getting the message.
00:11:10.000 That being said, hold on, sorry, Ian, I don't want to jump to disparaging the name of the dead or the missing because we have no information to believe these people have done anything wrong.
00:11:17.000 As far as we know, these people were working for the US government on projects of public importance and have died or gone missing in mysterious ways, indicating some kind of foul play.
00:11:29.000 So, I wonder if the US government is pulling the work for us or else.
00:11:36.000 But I don't see why they would kill him.
00:11:38.000 Honestly, if the US was willing to kill, they'd just kidnap, right?
00:11:43.000 Like the US government would go to one of these people and say, Your anti gravity research has to be done in our deep underground base from now on.
00:11:50.000 And when they go, No, they wouldn't kill him.
00:11:53.000 They'd say, You don't have a choice.
00:11:54.000 And they'd force him.
00:11:55.000 Aren't they kind of already working for like US government adjacent?
00:11:58.000 Not Black Ops.
00:12:00.000 Right.
00:12:01.000 So, you know what I love about these stories is that.
00:12:04.000 I was reading this one UFO story where an Air Force pilot said he saw strange objects flying over near, like, Western Florida.
00:12:13.000 And then the news article was like, the strange UFO sighting was witnessed, was about 70 miles away from an advanced weapons research facility run by the Navy.
00:12:21.000 And I'm like, what is this?
00:12:24.000 Why would you headline it UFO spotted and then mention at the bottom of the article near advanced weapons research for the Navy?
00:12:30.000 It was clearly advanced naval weapons.
00:12:32.000 What are you wasting my time for?
00:12:33.000 I've also heard the argument, too, that no one is actually more directly incentivized for there to be.
00:12:38.000 Public fears over the UFOs than the United States government, specifically the military, because again, that's something they go to Congress with and say, hey, we need a budget increase like now.
00:12:46.000 So, actually, if you look at where the incentives would be, I don't know if I subscribe to the theory 100%, but in theory, the defense, the Department of War now, would be directly incentivized for there to be increased fears over UFOs.
00:12:58.000 And I think because they go to Congress and say, hey, we need our trillion dollar budget like now, or now they have it, but we need a trillion and a half dollar budget.
00:13:04.000 Like, hey, there's these potential China has these super weapons or potentially there's extraterrestrials.
00:13:09.000 Let's get some more money right now.
00:13:11.000 I mean, we see that all the time where government agencies stoke fears.
00:13:13.000 Like the postmaster comes out every year.
00:13:15.000 He's like, oh my gosh, we're going to have to increase stamps like 50%.
00:13:17.000 And then it's always over a budget shakedown.
00:13:19.000 You know, I will say this I have to be a downer.
00:13:21.000 I'm going to be a downer, guys.
00:13:23.000 And, you know, I'm going to preface this with if instead of saying what I'm about to say, I instead said it's aliens, this proves it, we'd get more views.
00:13:33.000 But this may just be a bias where people die.
00:13:39.000 These people have died at different times.
00:13:41.000 Some people go missing.
00:13:43.000 People go hiking and fall off the trail, you know, onto a cliff all the time.
00:13:47.000 And so a lot of people have just speculated we're seeing patterns where there isn't one.
00:13:52.000 That could be happening too.
00:13:53.000 I mean, there's tens of thousands of scientists, and here's 11, and we're like, oh.
00:13:57.000 I'm jazzed about the anti gravity because it's a real technology, like the Byfield Brown experiment.
00:14:01.000 These scientists, they'll work on it, and then it gets to the point where you're like, this is wrong.
00:14:04.000 There's no anti gravity.
00:14:05.000 Byfield Brown, check out the thing that fade up.
00:14:06.000 Ian.
00:14:07.000 It gets to the point where you're like, how ethical.
00:14:09.000 I talked with Ash and Ford.
00:14:10.000 Be careful, Ian.
00:14:10.000 I'm going to say it one more time.
00:14:11.000 Exactly.
00:14:12.000 This is the thing be careful because, like, we're using the internet, we're speaking to the world.
00:14:15.000 So.
00:14:16.000 You get to the point where how ethical is it to talk about the deep tech?
00:14:19.000 Like, you want to tell your military this stuff so that we can preserve the world together and establish American Republicanism.
00:14:26.000 You're going to go missing tomorrow.
00:14:27.000 Yeah, really.
00:14:28.000 Well, I want to help them.
00:14:29.000 So I would like to be a mouthpiece to, like, make, hey, you don't need to say everything you know on TV.
00:14:34.000 Some of this stuff, like the Manhattan Project, if we hadn't done it and they probably, people didn't know the scientists were working on it while they were, we would have lost World War II.
00:14:42.000 We could very well lose the world economic order if we don't have security.
00:14:45.000 You know, I just want to part something out real quick.
00:14:48.000 Could you imagine being like, A black ops US government guy at an advanced research lab making these technologies.
00:14:55.000 And there's a bunch of really annoying people like Tom DeLong who won't stop bothering you.
00:15:00.000 And you're like sitting there and you're like, okay, the anti gravity should be coming online.
00:15:03.000 And it's like, bro, Tom DeLong's outside again.
00:15:06.000 He's looking in with binoculars like, oh, this guy won't stop.
00:15:09.000 He's got it all wrong.
00:15:10.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:15:10.000 It's completely wrong.
00:15:11.000 You want to correct him, but you can't.
00:15:13.000 He seems to be like a.
00:15:14.000 You watch him on TV saying insane things and you're like, oh, gosh.
00:15:18.000 I can't fact check him at all.
00:15:20.000 You make a burner Twitter account to like.
00:15:22.000 Here's what happened.
00:15:23.000 The lady, one of these scientists is at a bar, and someone's like, I heard Tom DeLong talking about it, and he said it's aliens.
00:15:29.000 And she goes, I've been working on this for 15 years, and it's not a.
00:15:33.000 Oh, crap.
00:15:34.000 Bang.
00:15:35.000 Literally, yeah.
00:15:36.000 Well, Tim, you're saying earlier, like, kind of the confirmation bias.
00:15:39.000 I mean, we're seeing it right now in Austin, you know, where a lot of people have gone missing around Lake Travis.
00:15:43.000 No, that's a serial killer.
00:15:45.000 And people are like, Yeah, yeah, the majority of the people going missing are gay men.
00:15:53.000 And they're thrown off a bridge, right?
00:15:54.000 Yeah, that's what I was going to say.
00:15:55.000 It's like, so people are saying, like, well, you know, it's Lake Travis, you know, people get swept away or whatever, but they're all gay.
00:16:01.000 And thrown off a bridge.
00:16:02.000 Wait, not to make light of it, but you're saying the serial killer's gay?
00:16:05.000 It's a gay serial killer or a guy who kills a serial killer?
00:16:08.000 No, he's probably anti gay.
00:16:09.000 Targets.
00:16:10.000 Well, or, well, Is a gay guy and he, like, you know, he goes on a date with them or seduces them and then he kills them.
00:16:15.000 But, like, the gay guy would want to have sex with them.
00:16:19.000 That's how he gets them.
00:16:21.000 Yeah.
00:16:21.000 I'll be like, there's plenty of cases or there's been plenty of movies or theories where, like, the gay guy feels guilt and, like, then he Jeffrey Dahmer is his gay guy.
00:16:28.000 Yeah, yeah, right, right.
00:16:29.000 Could be that.
00:16:30.000 A lot of them are.
00:16:31.000 What does that have to do with aliens?
00:16:31.000 Yeah.
00:16:32.000 Directly ties in, actually.
00:16:33.000 Repressed sexuality.
00:16:34.000 Aliens just looking for a body.
00:16:35.000 I just say something real quick.
00:16:37.000 I have to say something.
00:16:38.000 It's been eating at me a lot.
00:16:40.000 I know we're only a few minutes into the show, but.
00:16:41.000 Remember that video the other day where the gay guy had the baby begging for its mom?
00:16:44.000 Yeah.
00:16:45.000 That guy's last name is McAnally.
00:16:46.000 What?
00:16:47.000 Oh, it's not a Jew.
00:16:48.000 No way.
00:16:49.000 Is that a Jew?
00:16:49.000 McAnally.
00:16:50.000 What's that theory where your name kind of like.
00:16:52.000 Yeah, his ancestors in Scotland.
00:16:54.000 Wow.
00:16:56.000 Swallow was.
00:16:57.000 Swallow.
00:16:59.000 Got in trouble for like, you know, diddling.
00:17:00.000 It was Anthony Weiner.
00:17:01.000 It was obvious.
00:17:02.000 Anthony Weiner.
00:17:03.000 Like your name kind of.
00:17:04.000 I heard there was a lawyer named Justin Case.
00:17:06.000 There you go.
00:17:07.000 There was that one mom from Dewey, Cheatham, and Howe.
00:17:09.000 A lawyer named.
00:17:10.000 What?
00:17:10.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:17:11.000 Yeah.
00:17:13.000 Well, I just wanted to mention that because I was talking about it earlier.
00:17:17.000 And when I pulled up the guy's Instagram, it's MCANALLY, like literally.
00:17:24.000 That's the word.
00:17:24.000 Analy?
00:17:25.000 Yeah.
00:17:26.000 Wow.
00:17:26.000 And I was like, is this a joke?
00:17:28.000 It's like a horrible McDonald's thing.
00:17:30.000 Guys, I think we live in a simulation.
00:17:32.000 You know what I mean?
00:17:33.000 I think, you know what I think it is?
00:17:35.000 I think the simulation was created to be an all.
00:17:38.000 It's like, instead of writing TV shows, there was just some dude and he was like, I got an idea for a business.
00:17:43.000 We'll create a bunch of data centers that run this AI universe.
00:17:47.000 And then we can just isolate points of interest, and that will be the show.
00:17:50.000 So, of course, like the headline show is Donald Trump.
00:17:54.000 And the people outside the simulation are just sitting there eating popcorn, watching all of Trump's antics, just like laughing.
00:17:58.000 I'm fascinated with the way plasma interacts with photons, because I think that really might be happening with they build like.
00:18:04.000 I think about that casually.
00:18:05.000 I was thinking about that this morning.
00:18:06.000 No, I was thinking that.
00:18:07.000 Their data centers are stars, and then they just use photons to communicate and transmit.
00:18:11.000 Oh, you took the words out of my mouth.
00:18:12.000 I mean, that's right.
00:18:13.000 I was thinking about that.
00:18:14.000 And also graphene and hydrogen.
00:18:17.000 You were saying something about that earlier.
00:18:18.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, absolutely.
00:18:19.000 Yeah, it's always talking about the construct.
00:18:21.000 Anyway, my point is like, when you get a story, well, like, when I'm looking at this story and it's a gay guy holding a baby and it's like very abusive, it's very horrifying.
00:18:29.000 And then I'm like, here's his Instagram and his last name is McAnally.
00:18:33.000 I said, this is fake.
00:18:34.000 Yeah.
00:18:35.000 Like, this is like, this is not real.
00:18:35.000 Like somebody faked this.
00:18:38.000 Someone made a fake video to generate outrage, right?
00:18:41.000 Well, that's like the way the Japanese, when they have video games and it's like the baseball, they're just like, I'm Johnny Baseball.
00:18:41.000 Yeah.
00:18:46.000 And it's like, okay, a little too on the nose.
00:18:48.000 That's like a Japanese designing like a predator.
00:18:50.000 That's what they would name them.
00:18:51.000 Well, it's like the other day where that story.
00:18:53.000 J.K. Rowling character for a gay guy.
00:18:55.000 That's what she would call him.
00:18:57.000 That's probably it.
00:18:58.000 Johnny McAnally.
00:19:00.000 What's Cho Chang?
00:19:02.000 Everybody was like, she named a Chinese character Cho Chang.
00:19:05.000 She's like, I need a name for a gay guy, guys.
00:19:05.000 Yeah.
00:19:07.000 McAnally.
00:19:07.000 Come on.
00:19:08.000 There you go.
00:19:11.000 Yeah.
00:19:11.000 True.
00:19:13.000 Yeah, we had that story the other day where it was like Gavin Newsom provides taxpayer funding for sex changes for transgender illegal aliens.
00:19:24.000 And you were like, it's like a right wing headline generator.
00:19:27.000 If you could shake up a box of Breitbart headlines, that's what would come out.
00:19:31.000 I asked my dad, I've been feeling kind of lost and spiritually lost.
00:19:35.000 And I asked him, What do I do?
00:19:36.000 His response is pray.
00:19:38.000 It works, it really works.
00:19:39.000 And if we're in a simulation and your thoughts really do impact your surroundings, like, It might have massive transcendence.
00:19:48.000 There is only one thing that I need or want a good smash burger.
00:19:53.000 Just get me some pickles, some cheese.
00:19:55.000 I know.
00:19:56.000 And I'm going to have one.
00:19:57.000 The human staying alive part of life is very different than the prayer.
00:20:01.000 No, I'm going to pray for a cheeseburger and it's going to happen.
00:20:04.000 It will.
00:20:04.000 My point is, I am going to ask and I shall receive.
00:20:08.000 If really in a simulation is praying, like sending a note to the help desk, like, hey, I kind of need this.
00:20:13.000 Yeah.
00:20:13.000 I need you to drop this into the server.
00:20:15.000 Well, what if?
00:20:16.000 So, you know, I was driving.
00:20:20.000 In LA to go to my boy Robbie's house.
00:20:21.000 You guys know Robbie.
00:20:22.000 He's been out sometimes.
00:20:23.000 Robbie Mann.
00:20:24.000 Robbie Mann.
00:20:25.000 And okay, so this is Robbie.
00:20:27.000 Like him and Ian probably get along, right?
00:20:28.000 So I call him and I'm like, hey, I'm going to be at your house in like a few minutes.
00:20:31.000 Is there anywhere to park?
00:20:32.000 And he goes, in front, like see if you can find something.
00:20:35.000 I'm like, okay.
00:20:36.000 So I, and this is LA right next to the Grove.
00:20:38.000 And I pull up, no parking.
00:20:41.000 So I drive around the block, loop around another block.
00:20:43.000 There's no cars.
00:20:44.000 And I call him, like, bro, I've been driving 15 minutes.
00:20:46.000 And he goes, well, manifest it, bro.
00:20:46.000 There's no parking.
00:20:48.000 And I said, what?
00:20:49.000 And he goes, Bro, you got to manifest the spot.
00:20:52.000 And I said, What does that mean?
00:20:54.000 He's like, Bro, you have to manifest it.
00:20:56.000 Like, envision it happening and the parking spot will appear.
00:20:59.000 And I was like, Robbie, I can't magically make a parking spot.
00:21:02.000 What are you talking about?
00:21:03.000 He's like, No, that attitude.
00:21:06.000 And I ended up driving until someone moved.
00:21:09.000 And then I was like, This is what's funny.
00:21:12.000 I go to his door, he buzzes me in, and he's like, You got a space?
00:21:15.000 And I was like, Yeah, after like 20 minutes, he goes, You manifested it, bro.
00:21:17.000 And I was like, No, I drove around until someone moved.
00:21:20.000 And he's like, But you made that happen.
00:21:21.000 Oh my God, dude.
00:21:22.000 Sometimes people drive cars.
00:21:24.000 Patriot manifestation is real.
00:21:26.000 Like, again, if you're like circling the block, no parking, you go, President Trump, Donald Trump, if you can hear me, please, Donald Trump.
00:21:31.000 And then next thing you know, boom.
00:21:32.000 I do that with Costco.
00:21:33.000 When I go to Costco, I just always go to the front.
00:21:35.000 There's just, there's going to be a parking spot.
00:21:37.000 The philosophy of manifestation is if you believe it's real, then someone gets like an idea and they go move.
00:21:43.000 They're like, oh, I got to move my car.
00:21:44.000 And they'll go do it.
00:21:45.000 And it's kind of like when someone yawns and you yawn.
00:21:47.000 It's like, oh, yeah.
00:21:48.000 Did you see that experiment where they had people in like, Isolated closets, and then one person yawned, and then everyone started yawning.
00:21:56.000 Why does that happen?
00:21:57.000 Even though they couldn't see each other or hear each other, one person yawned, the next person yawned.
00:22:01.000 They were like, There's a lot of ways, like quantum tunneling.
00:22:04.000 How deep do you go?
00:22:05.000 Yeah, why is our.
00:22:06.000 That's the one of the most acidic.
00:22:07.000 That's the thing.
00:22:08.000 If I see somebody yawn, even if it's on a TV show, I will yawn.
00:22:11.000 What do you think?
00:22:12.000 Dogs?
00:22:12.000 I yawn when my dog yawns.
00:22:13.000 It's crazy.
00:22:14.000 Yeah, it's a thing.
00:22:15.000 It does with animals too.
00:22:16.000 What do you think would be cooler?
00:22:17.000 The scientists are being assassinated by foreign adversaries, they're being recruited andor assassinated by the US government.
00:22:24.000 Or interdimensional beings are capturing and/or killing them.
00:22:29.000 I have a phobia of aliens, like legitimate aliens freak me out.
00:22:32.000 Like, not the reptile ones from Aliens vs. Predator movies.
00:22:35.000 Those are cool, those turn me on.
00:22:37.000 They don't do that for me yet.
00:22:38.000 Oh, they're just so slim.
00:22:39.000 I'll manifest that.
00:22:40.000 Maybe it'll happen.
00:22:41.000 It's a lizard people.
00:22:42.000 But like the big eyed alien ones, like my hands sweat when I see them in movies and stuff.
00:22:47.000 With the greys.
00:22:48.000 The greys.
00:22:48.000 Yeah, like I freak out a little bit.
00:22:50.000 Do you think there's probably people who have like a fetish for like lizard people?
00:22:53.000 There's a fetish for fun.
00:22:55.000 I'm sure there are.
00:22:56.000 I know.
00:22:56.000 I'm just imagining how funny that would probably be.
00:22:59.000 Like we talked about Chris Venome's husband and like this bimbo stuff.
00:23:02.000 But that's just the stuff you find out about when someone leaks stuff.
00:23:06.000 I wonder if there's like some member of Congress who got elected just because they're like super into lizard people.
00:23:10.000 Yeah, there's somebody out there praying that aliens are real because they want to have sex with them.
00:23:16.000 Yeah.
00:23:16.000 He's like, dude, I just am really into energy beings, dude.
00:23:19.000 How funny would that be if, as a member of Congress getting briefed on lizard people, they're real?
00:23:23.000 And the guy's getting all sweaty and excited.
00:23:23.000 Is there a word?
00:23:26.000 Is something wrong, Congressman?
00:23:27.000 Are they green?
00:23:28.000 It's like, is something wrong, Congressman?
00:23:30.000 He's like, show me more pictures.
00:23:32.000 What does this feel like?
00:23:33.000 Can I take these to review?
00:23:34.000 It's their dating app, Slither.
00:23:35.000 They're like, have you used Slither?
00:23:37.000 Slide into my DM.
00:23:38.000 I got Slither Premium.
00:23:40.000 I'm going to have to take this file for a quick review.
00:23:44.000 Well, but you can't leave the building.
00:23:45.000 I'll just go somewhere private.
00:23:47.000 Is that bathroom allowed?
00:23:48.000 Can I go in there?
00:23:49.000 I'll be in the bathroom for 10 minutes, nine of which I'll be asleep.
00:23:52.000 What's y'all's theory?
00:23:54.000 Do you think the aliens are real?
00:23:56.000 Of course.
00:23:57.000 I think they are, but it's not corporeal that we know.
00:23:59.000 They're like high frequency density consciousness.
00:24:01.000 Well, that's true too, but they are physical aliens and higher forming.
00:24:06.000 So the likelihood is there's other aliens.
00:24:07.000 Would you argue that's like the demon theory?
00:24:08.000 Like aliens are just demons?
00:24:09.000 Yes.
00:24:09.000 Yeah, and angels, I think they control your thoughts and your body, they kind of move you with magnetic.
00:24:15.000 It scares the crap out of you.
00:24:16.000 Well, let me put it this way.
00:24:18.000 Like, there's an ant walking around, right?
00:24:20.000 He didn't see you.
00:24:22.000 That little ant can't even comprehend that you were there.
00:24:24.000 But what happens if you take a ruler and block its path?
00:24:28.000 It will stop, see the ruler, and then turn and run.
00:24:31.000 It doesn't comprehend that a human being has intervened in its life.
00:24:35.000 Right.
00:24:36.000 Imagine anything in your life where you're going about your business and all of a sudden something changes.
00:24:41.000 To you, it seems like nature.
00:24:43.000 We can't perceive the angels and the demons that are interfering or intervening the way we do for lesser entities.
00:24:49.000 When my flight gets canceled, it's a freaking alien like messing with me.
00:24:52.000 No, but sometimes.
00:24:52.000 Every time.
00:24:54.000 So we talk about like manifesting things.
00:24:56.000 Imagine if.
00:24:57.000 So we can understand some simple things about, say, a dog or an ant.
00:25:01.000 Like, dogs, obviously, much higher than ants.
00:25:03.000 So, dogs understand you exist and you can do things.
00:25:07.000 I love this meme.
00:25:08.000 It's like, to a dog, humans are.
00:25:12.000 They live for the equivalent of, you know, several lifetimes.
00:25:15.000 They seemingly have magic powers, can fly, and, you know, can strike someone down from a distance.
00:25:20.000 We're basically elves to them, you know, the way elves are to humans in lore.
00:25:24.000 So, for a dog, We can still interact with them in a way that is beyond their comprehension.
00:25:29.000 They just know that we're capable of doing crazy things.
00:25:31.000 We don't have any equivalent to that.
00:25:33.000 But for an ant, the gap is so massive, they can even perceive our existence for the most part, comprehend what we are.
00:25:39.000 So, imagine what we understand about what ants want or do.
00:25:43.000 It's very simple.
00:25:44.000 They're going to grab food, they're going to bring it back, right?
00:25:46.000 So, what you can do, you can rip a little crumb off a piece of bread and put it down in front of that ant.
00:25:50.000 And that ant doesn't know anything other than a windfall has just appeared before me.
00:25:55.000 It has been granted a great boon for some reason.
00:25:57.000 And it runs up and it finds the food, gets all excited, and then it runs back and tells its buddies, and they come and they'll just drag it away.
00:26:03.000 Imagine winning the lottery.
00:26:05.000 Imagine something good happening to you, and you are just thinking, wow, a good thing just happened to me.
00:26:10.000 Right?
00:26:11.000 You don't even know why.
00:26:12.000 Could be an angel.
00:26:13.000 Now, hold on.
00:26:14.000 What about the little kid with the magnifying glass frying all the ants?
00:26:17.000 To the ants, they're like, oh God, a great catastrophe is just wiping us all and killing us.
00:26:21.000 Could be a demon.
00:26:22.000 So, what if the angels and demons, their motivations are rather simple?
00:26:26.000 Higher entities that are sometimes bored.
00:26:29.000 So, imagine this.
00:26:31.000 We understand the desire of an ant, right?
00:26:33.000 It wants food for the most part to bring back to its house.
00:26:36.000 We don't really care if it does or doesn't.
00:26:38.000 Sometimes it's funny.
00:26:39.000 Sometimes you give a little chocolate chip and you watch the ant, you're like, hey, look at him go.
00:26:43.000 Imagine you now praying and saying, I just really want.
00:26:48.000 To succeed and like have all this money, and there's a higher entity just being like, Here, I'm gonna put a million dollars right there.
00:26:54.000 Look at him go!
00:26:55.000 Oh, little guy, he's loving it.
00:26:56.000 You know what I mean?
00:26:57.000 Yeah, the angel manifests the thing by twisting the subatomic time space, I think, and then matter comes out.
00:27:03.000 You can rationalize however they did it.
00:27:04.000 I'm saying liken it to an angel.
00:27:09.000 My point is, it could be higher dimensional entities that view us like ants or bugs, and they're looking down, giggling, being like, This guy's trying to have a podcast.
00:27:18.000 Watch, I'm gonna create a podcast.
00:27:19.000 A time, a linear path of success.
00:27:21.000 Hey, look at that.
00:27:22.000 That explains why the McRib just kind of spontaneously reappears in the minute.
00:27:25.000 I played with you.
00:27:25.000 I know.
00:27:27.000 You know what the real reason is, right?
00:27:29.000 Divine intervention.
00:27:29.000 Yes.
00:27:30.000 It's excess pork.
00:27:31.000 Yeah.
00:27:31.000 Well, it's.
00:27:32.000 That's the human for an ant.
00:27:33.000 It's a pork byproduct.
00:27:35.000 That's, you know, ants have explanations like that.
00:27:36.000 Cartilage, bone, and other garbage gets mashed into a million bits.
00:27:40.000 Like a McRib.
00:27:41.000 Right.
00:27:42.000 You know, I wonder like that's because we're ants.
00:27:44.000 We don't understand.
00:27:45.000 It's actually a cosmic intervention saying now is the time the McRib can return.
00:27:48.000 I ask why do the spirits do this if they're doing this, which they seem to be like, why?
00:27:52.000 And maybe that question just.
00:27:54.000 Breaks down at that level.
00:27:55.000 There is no why.
00:27:56.000 I don't know.
00:27:56.000 Like you were saying, they're curious.
00:27:57.000 You think maybe they're just interested in changing things.
00:28:01.000 Maybe there's a bigger purpose.
00:28:02.000 Like they want us to create a galactic empire so that we can coexist.
00:28:06.000 Have you watched Star Trek Next Generation?
00:28:08.000 I've seen them all.
00:28:09.000 Almost all of them, I think.
00:28:10.000 So Q is a character in the show who is a higher dimensional being, can manipulate reality however he wants.
00:28:18.000 And the one thing I always did not like about the character, like, it's fine.
00:28:21.000 I love Star Trek.
00:28:22.000 It's just the presumption of Picard and the other characters is that Q is temperamental and erratic.
00:28:30.000 Whereas at no point did the characters actually just address, obviously, a higher intelligence with expansive knowledge is going to be beyond our perception, our conception of pettiness.
00:28:44.000 Thus, Q is acting irrationally and antagonistic for a reason.
00:28:48.000 And they just, they, they, they, they've, so in the show, the general idea is Q, like I said, he's all powerful, right?
00:28:55.000 He's some kind of weird entity.
00:28:57.000 And they presume he's just an annoying guy.
00:29:00.000 Yet that's like probably not.
00:29:02.000 The emotional spectrum we have relative to an ant is like near infinity.
00:29:07.000 If Q can see the future, he's like, maybe he punches a guy in the face.
00:29:09.000 The guy's like, why'd you hit me, Q?
00:29:11.000 And then like three days later, the guy gets attacked again and he's ready for it.
00:29:14.000 And Q's like, see, I was preparing you for it.
00:29:16.000 And I think they do address that when Picard asks, like, why do you do these things?
00:29:20.000 And he's like, it's for a reason.
00:29:22.000 But they never have the exposition of the show for Picard or anybody to say the way he behaves is an intentional act.
00:29:30.000 Clearly, a being at that level would not need to behave in a petty way.
00:29:34.000 Dude, I wonder if there's angels and demons, if there's actually entities that want us to succeed and then entities that want us to fail, literally.
00:29:42.000 That doesn't make sense.
00:29:43.000 It wouldn't make sense.
00:29:44.000 I just explained it.
00:29:44.000 It does?
00:29:45.000 Wouldn't that be an angel or a demon, though?
00:29:46.000 I just explained it.
00:29:47.000 Why would a magnetic field try and repel you away from it?
00:29:50.000 Why would someone kick an anthill over for no reason?
00:29:52.000 Hmm.
00:29:53.000 Why would someone put a pepperoni slice next to the anthill to watch the ants eat and the other person kick their anthill over and destroy it?
00:30:02.000 Why do some humans dump molten aluminum into anthills and then massacre the entire civilization and then lift the mold out of the ground?
00:30:11.000 That's research.
00:30:12.000 They don't care.
00:30:13.000 They don't think about the ants' lives or goals or anything like that.
00:30:15.000 They don't care.
00:30:16.000 Oh, so there's some of these spirits who are more interested in researching on us than us seeing us succeed.
00:30:21.000 They just want to throw us trouble and see if we can handle it and how we can.
00:30:23.000 Well, there's a child who burns ants with a magnifying glass.
00:30:27.000 There are adults who see an anthill and kick it over.
00:30:29.000 There are adults who will intentionally rip a piece of bread off and drop it near the anthill.
00:30:33.000 The motivations are immaterial.
00:30:35.000 The guy who kicks the anthill doesn't later go, I feel bad.
00:30:38.000 I kicked an anthill.
00:30:39.000 He also doesn't go, Yeah, I got him.
00:30:41.000 He doesn't even think about it.
00:30:43.000 But to them, it's a giant catastrophe.
00:30:44.000 Yeah, it's their world ending.
00:30:46.000 Could you imagine if a skyscraper just exploded?
00:30:50.000 What if the World Trade Center, the reason that there's a real 9 11 conspiracy, is that just some interdimensional entity was like, boom, and knocked it over?
00:30:59.000 And then they were like, ah, and the government can't tell us because they imagine the government came out and said there are interdimensional beings that view us negligibly like ants and sometimes cause catastrophes.
00:31:09.000 There's just an asshole that was bored.
00:31:10.000 But those 80s was getting noobed.
00:31:13.000 Those anthill kickers will realize what they did is wrong if the ants strike back and teach them a lesson on what they've done.
00:31:22.000 But if sometimes, every once in a while, you break the barrier and you can terrify the spirits, like you can control them, they're magnetically bound to your will.
00:31:33.000 I think you're just wishing that to be something.
00:31:34.000 The aliens scared the crap out of me.
00:31:35.000 It's like I get a lot of sleep paralysis.
00:31:37.000 Like, a lot.
00:31:37.000 Oh, man.
00:31:38.000 I get a lot.
00:31:39.000 Yeah.
00:31:40.000 And it.
00:31:41.000 That explains why you're such a good journalist.
00:31:43.000 Dude, I get a lot.
00:31:44.000 And it's gotten to the point, I get it so much now that I can wake my wife up to wake me up to like snap me out of it.
00:31:50.000 Yeah.
00:31:51.000 But what's it called?
00:31:52.000 I remember the theory that like the alien abductions that people used to have, they used to say it was sleep paralysis.
00:31:57.000 Yeah.
00:31:57.000 Yeah.
00:31:57.000 Cause you're dreaming.
00:31:58.000 Yeah.
00:31:58.000 And you're like locked in bed.
00:31:59.000 Like, yeah.
00:32:00.000 Like recently, the one I had, there was like something behind me breathing on me.
00:32:00.000 I hallucinate.
00:32:03.000 Like, it was like a.
00:32:04.000 It was almost like a cat.
00:32:05.000 It wasn't my cat, but it was like making noise.
00:32:07.000 Yeah, but bro, let me sense it.
00:32:09.000 I hated it.
00:32:09.000 Let me freak you out a little bit more.
00:32:10.000 Oh, God.
00:32:12.000 Do you believe in the multiverse?
00:32:14.000 I think it's possible, yeah.
00:32:15.000 If there is a multiverse, that would mean it is possible.
00:32:22.000 We don't dream, we view.
00:32:27.000 If every universe branches off from another possible universe and every probability creates a new universe, that would mean when you're having a weird dream, you're actually just peering into another reality.
00:32:37.000 So when you hear that breathing over your head, that's not just a dream, you are actually perceiving a universe where that is really occurring.
00:32:44.000 So, like somewhere in another.
00:32:46.000 In my room, there's this like monster that's hanging out.
00:32:49.000 Yeah, it's a different frequency of perception.
00:32:52.000 And when you dream, you see these other realities and experience them.
00:32:56.000 Yeah.
00:32:56.000 I mean, that's like.
00:32:57.000 That was the first thing I thought was DMT because when I have experienced DMT, there was like a stereoscopic realm three dimensionally and things were behind me.
00:33:04.000 So when you were saying something was behind you in your space, that's a.
00:33:08.000 In sleep, you release DMT.
00:33:10.000 I know.
00:33:11.000 Or what if it's not that there's another dimension where there's a monster by your bed?
00:33:14.000 It's that you are perceiving another dimension where it's a wilderness with a monster walking through the woods.
00:33:19.000 Mm hmm.
00:33:20.000 That's horrible.
00:33:21.000 I hate it.
00:33:22.000 But I think that's why we have imagination, too.
00:33:25.000 You don't have an imagination.
00:33:27.000 You have the access to the overview of the multiverse.
00:33:31.000 And you do not put the pieces together to create new universes.
00:33:31.000 Yeah.
00:33:34.000 Imagination implies in your mind, you are combining ideas to abstract new ideas or things.
00:33:42.000 New food species, yeah.
00:33:43.000 Like just new concepts, but they're not new.
00:33:45.000 If the multiverse exists, you're actually just seeing what is.
00:33:49.000 That might be true.
00:33:50.000 Like everything we think has already been thought.
00:33:52.000 I don't know, though.
00:33:53.000 That's kind of weird.
00:33:54.000 Our brains are just tapped in.
00:33:55.000 To the multiverse, and we can, in our mind, close our eyes.
00:33:59.000 And here's the thing some people can see more than others.
00:34:03.000 How strong is your third eye?
00:34:05.000 Some people, when they close their eyes, you say, envision an apple, they can't do it.
00:34:09.000 Yeah, like the people that don't have inner monologue.
00:34:11.000 Right.
00:34:11.000 I met somebody that told me they didn't have inner monologue, and I can't even comprehend not having it.
00:34:17.000 It makes no sense.
00:34:18.000 How is it even possible?
00:34:19.000 I don't know.
00:34:19.000 Cause, like, you know, like, I think, like, I'm in the shower, I'm thinking, I can hear my voice in my head talking, like, to, Thinking about things out loud.
00:34:27.000 And this person was like, no, I can't.
00:34:28.000 I literally cannot do that.
00:34:29.000 Here's a question for you How many tracks do you have on your mind, though?
00:34:32.000 What do you mean?
00:34:33.000 You can hear yourself talking.
00:34:35.000 Right.
00:34:35.000 Can you also see things happening?
00:34:39.000 Yeah, of course.
00:34:40.000 Can you hear two things at once?
00:34:42.000 Yes.
00:34:43.000 So when people say they have an inner monologue, that also is a limited, like we talked about this when we were in Austin, that the people who can envision the apple.
00:34:52.000 Yeah.
00:34:53.000 It's like when you envision an apple, do you see a three dimensional red apple rotating?
00:34:57.000 And we're seeing it.
00:34:58.000 Some people can see different types of apples.
00:34:59.000 I'll see it.
00:35:00.000 Like in different, like quality.
00:35:02.000 Almost.
00:35:02.000 Right.
00:35:03.000 Like some people can only see like a 2D app.
00:35:05.000 Let me pull this up.
00:35:05.000 Yeah, that's a good chart.
00:35:07.000 Because like there's some people that can see like an apple and it's like, which you could at a base level, like call it high quality, like a 4K version of a high res.
00:35:14.000 High res.
00:35:15.000 It's this.
00:35:16.000 And there's some people that, yes, there you go.
00:35:18.000 So here's the thing.
00:35:20.000 Number one, I would flip this around.
00:35:23.000 I would make the red apple five, four, three, two, and one.
00:35:28.000 The reason is there is actually something beyond seeing the apple in full 3D realistic.
00:35:34.000 So, what's interesting about this is that people, what is beyond being able to see an apple in full 3D realistic?
00:35:43.000 You want to break it open and put it back.
00:35:43.000 Taste it.
00:35:45.000 Simultaneously in your mind, slicing it in half, smelling it, picking it up, visualizing, taking a bite, and tasting it, all of the senses around it.
00:35:54.000 Or also visualizing the apple rotating in 360, then being split into 128 individual slices that each then rotate themselves.
00:36:03.000 Then you imagine the apple itself decaying.
00:36:05.000 You see beyond this.
00:36:06.000 And then there's beyond that.
00:36:08.000 And that is while you were envisioning the apple spinning, being sliced into 128 different slices while aging, you're also hearing someone explain what is currently going on while a song is playing in the background and you're planning for the rest of your day.
00:36:21.000 And then you become the apple.
00:36:23.000 Yes.
00:36:23.000 For a moment, yes.
00:36:24.000 And yes.
00:36:25.000 One step beyond that is you are the apple.
00:36:27.000 Sometimes that keeps me up at night because that does happen to me.
00:36:31.000 You're imagining you're an apple.
00:36:33.000 If the same song loops over and over again and I can't shut it off, I'm also.
00:36:36.000 That's not what I'm talking about.
00:36:37.000 I know, but like.
00:36:38.000 You're imagining that you're an apple on a table and you can't move and you're going, ah!
00:36:41.000 Oh, not that much.
00:36:42.000 What's the deal with people that can't do this or don't have internal monologue or inner monologue?
00:36:47.000 I think it's a big deal with it.
00:36:48.000 It's like a muscle memory.
00:36:49.000 No, that's what it is, right?
00:36:50.000 They're just bots.
00:36:51.000 I've trained it.
00:36:51.000 It's just people that are just.
00:36:52.000 Well, let's talk mainstream.
00:36:54.000 The mainstream scientific view is that.
00:36:56.000 As a baby, your mind is developing neural pathways.
00:36:59.000 And if you do not get stimulation to develop it, you will never get that stimulation.
00:37:04.000 So there's studies showing a direct correlation between the age at which a child is being taught things and the capability they'll have later in life.
00:37:13.000 Easy way to explain it.
00:37:15.000 Do you play baseball?
00:37:16.000 No, I did when I was growing up.
00:37:18.000 If you started playing baseball right now, full time, will you ever be as good as anyone in Major League Baseball?
00:37:24.000 Very likely not.
00:37:25.000 It's zero.
00:37:26.000 It's not going to happen.
00:37:27.000 Basically, zero.
00:37:28.000 I won't buy a motorcycle.
00:37:29.000 So, the reason is in order to reach the highest potentiality, you have to be training for something from like zero and on to develop a.
00:37:38.000 It's not just about developing muscles to do something, it's about developing the muscular structures, the fast twitch muscles as you develop muscle memory.
00:37:48.000 Yeah.
00:37:49.000 It's not just muscle memory, it's that your muscles must be built and designed from your whole life to be able to do something specific.
00:37:56.000 We do a bunch of general stuff.
00:37:58.000 Then, around like 12 or 13, people start to pick up a hobby or something.
00:38:03.000 You will never, if you start playing baseball at 13, you will never be as good as someone who started playing baseball when they were three.
00:38:08.000 Man, did you see Justin Bieber start on the drums when he's like two or four?
00:38:11.000 Really?
00:38:11.000 Yeah, he's amazing.
00:38:13.000 You do have to keep doing it, by the way.
00:38:14.000 But so, anyway, to the point here, the mainstream scientific view is people with no inner monologue or capabilities of visualization and audialization.
00:38:23.000 Audialization?
00:38:23.000 What is it?
00:38:24.000 Oralization, I think.
00:38:24.000 I don't know.
00:38:25.000 A U R E. Oralization.
00:38:27.000 Did not have that stimulus as a child.
00:38:30.000 Another example is tone deafness, which is related to a child not hearing music for a long time as a baby.
00:38:36.000 Oh, I was surrounded by music.
00:38:38.000 My dad played guitar.
00:38:40.000 This is wild.
00:38:41.000 I could not understand the concept of tone deafness.
00:38:44.000 I didn't believe it was a thing.
00:38:45.000 I thought it was a joke.
00:38:46.000 I thought the phrase tone deaf meant you were just bad at knowing pitch.
00:38:51.000 Good music and stuff.
00:38:51.000 Yeah.
00:38:52.000 So, not good music.
00:38:53.000 That it meant if.
00:38:55.000 So, I likened it to having bad pitch, meaning if you hear.
00:38:59.000 A tone, can you replicate it?
00:39:01.000 I thought tone deaf was basically saying you can't imitate different pitches.
00:39:06.000 But that's not what it is.
00:39:07.000 Tone deaf literally means people cannot hear.
00:39:09.000 I have a great example of this.
00:39:12.000 They're incapable of discerning.
00:39:14.000 Everybody hears the same sound differently.
00:39:16.000 We all hear it the way our brains have coded themselves to hear you.
00:39:19.000 There's a tone deaf test, tone deafness test, where they will play two tones.
00:39:26.000 And then they'll ask you, and then they'll play two tones.
00:39:31.000 They test people doing that, and there are people who literally say it's all the same sound.
00:39:35.000 And they're like, you are tone down.
00:39:36.000 Is this the same as people who like tasting food?
00:39:41.000 Like, they can't tell the difference between what is good food or what's not.
00:39:43.000 Like, what is, well, not good food.
00:39:44.000 I don't know about that.
00:39:45.000 But, like, or well, maybe I'm thinking differently.
00:39:49.000 There's plenty of people out there that, like, they're incapable of eating outside of a certain food that they're used to.
00:39:54.000 Yeah, but come on, everybody loves orange chicken.
00:39:56.000 They say some tastes are acquired.
00:39:58.000 Like, acquired.
00:39:58.000 Yeah, there might be an acquired ability, sound, you know, the ability to hear tone, to discern tone.
00:40:03.000 No, it's a developed ability.
00:40:04.000 When you're young, if you don't hear tone, your brain does not develop the ability to do this.
00:40:07.000 Yeah, but taste buds, if you get rid of garbage foods, you can taste a lot easier.
00:40:11.000 So, I don't know if you do that with sound, maybe, too.
00:40:13.000 Let's go back to the point you were asking when I said the scientific view of it.
00:40:17.000 Let's do the spiritual view of it.
00:40:18.000 I actually think there's a possibility of this, that some people are more spiritually attuned, meaning whatever the Figurative third eye is that connects you to the infinity.
00:40:28.000 If you have a stronger third eye, you will conceptualize better, you will predict things better, you will be faster to think, you will hear thoughts.
00:40:40.000 Simply put, imagine if everybody has an antenna in their brain, some are weak and some are strong, and God is talking to you.
00:40:52.000 Those with very strong antennae are going to Seem smarter, but they just have a better connection to divinity.
00:41:00.000 And there's two parts to that.
00:41:02.000 There is the how strong is your antenna, but just like a radio, you might tune to 92.3 and get a radio station.
00:41:07.000 If you travel 10 miles, you no longer get the station because you're out of position.
00:41:11.000 So just like you want to tune your brain to be able to pick up God's frequency, you need to be in the right place.
00:41:16.000 But in reality, that means you need to be the right thing.
00:41:19.000 You need to change your body because that's position in reality is what you are.
00:41:23.000 So you change into the position that then you.
00:41:27.000 You hit the frequency and you hear it.
00:41:30.000 It's like fasting will put you in the right place.
00:41:32.000 And then the conspiracy theory is they put fluoride in the water to calcify our pineal glands to restrict our ability to perceive divinity.
00:41:38.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:41:40.000 That's like putting a Faraday cage over your radio.
00:41:45.000 There could be a.
00:41:46.000 I was going to say, I have a buddy who did ayahuasca.
00:41:48.000 He was atheist before he did it.
00:41:50.000 Is that how you pronounce it?
00:41:51.000 Yeah.
00:41:51.000 Ayahuasca?
00:41:52.000 He was atheist before he did it.
00:41:52.000 Okay.
00:41:54.000 And he did ayahuasca and he actually, like, Reached out to me while he was in the middle of a trip.
00:41:59.000 I don't know what you call it.
00:42:00.000 Forgive me, I'm ignorant on this.
00:42:01.000 I don't know what ceremony.
00:42:02.000 Yeah, he was in the middle of it, he was going through it, right?
00:42:04.000 And he, when he was done, he remembered he said he envisioned, he had several entities like came to him.
00:42:11.000 One looked like Gengar, which is kind of funny.
00:42:13.000 It's a funny bit.
00:42:14.000 But the other one was like, it was like his, I think a family member that had passed away had like approached him and was like telling him to do a bunch of stuff.
00:42:20.000 And he came to the conclusion it was all demons.
00:42:22.000 Like these were evil spirits.
00:42:23.000 And he came out of it, he became a Catholic.
00:42:25.000 And now he's like a very strong practicing Catholic.
00:42:27.000 And this dude's like incredibly smart.
00:42:28.000 He didn't become like, A weirdo or anything is like one of the smarter friends I actually have, but um, I don't remember what exactly the point was with this, but like the essentially, like he tuned into this thing, or he claims he tuned into this thing, and like, yeah, he saw all these entities and they were like trying to convince him to do different things and change his life.
00:42:46.000 He came to the conclusion they were all like evil beings, actually.
00:42:49.000 He actually saw like evil stuff, he didn't have a good experience, but he became a Catholic out of it, he became like very religious out of it.
00:42:56.000 And you can, there's clearly like genetic predispositions to like certain types of religiosity too.
00:43:00.000 Like, if you look at the founding of the United States.
00:43:02.000 Where, if you look at like the Puritans, for example, they're like these hyper Calvinist types, but they have virtually they came from the same place in England, right?
00:43:10.000 They're English, ethnically English.
00:43:11.000 But then, if you looked back in England, all the Puritans left, came to America, and then all those Englishmen that were surrounding that area, right, in East Anglia and that sort of thing, had far lower levels of religiosity.
00:43:21.000 So, like, clearly, among certain tracts of people, there was an increase in religiosity.
00:43:24.000 Go like this.
00:43:26.000 Move your hand up a little bit more.
00:43:29.000 Move it closer to your head a little bit and push it forward.
00:43:33.000 It's not working.
00:43:34.000 High five.
00:43:35.000 The All That Remains album took the focus away from you, so you're all blurry.
00:43:38.000 Oh, Phil Abanti's sticking it to you, even while he's not here.
00:43:41.000 Move your head.
00:43:42.000 Some alien.
00:43:42.000 Hey, wait.
00:43:43.000 There you go.
00:43:43.000 We got it.
00:43:44.000 Some alien was bored and was like, we're going to move you out of focus.
00:43:47.000 Yeah, they're about to start a tour.
00:43:49.000 There's a lot of like, this is like one of my pet issues, or not pet issues, like pet interests is like the different genetic predispositions to religiosity.
00:43:56.000 Because if you look at like Northern Europe, they were the last ones in on Christianity.
00:43:59.000 Like if you think about like the Nordic countries.
00:44:01.000 Last ones in on Christianity.
00:44:02.000 And they were the first ones out.
00:44:03.000 So the Reformation hits, it changes everything.
00:44:05.000 And then they were the first ones to just become widespread atheism.
00:44:09.000 So there's that kind of two things.
00:44:10.000 Is that just a purely cultural thing?
00:44:12.000 Or is it possible that that's just a genetic predetermination?
00:44:15.000 Because even a lot of the Nordic people who came to North America that settled in Canada, Minnesota, et cetera, they also have really high rates of atheism.
00:44:24.000 And so there is potentially just genetic predetermination.
00:44:26.000 Or just our gender and roles in doing certain things we're all predisposed to.
00:44:31.000 Yeah.
00:44:32.000 Are atheists.
00:44:34.000 The worst people imaginable.
00:44:36.000 I'm just kidding, atheists.
00:44:38.000 That's why I look at the camera.
00:44:39.000 You suck.
00:44:40.000 I'm not saying fuck you, atheists.
00:44:42.000 No, I'm just kidding.
00:44:43.000 No, atheists are, yeah, atheists are, I think, kind of silly because to claim that it doesn't exist, just because you can't see it, doesn't mean it's not really.
00:44:50.000 My issue with atheism is that, you know, when I was a teenager, I claimed to be an atheist.
00:44:55.000 And the reason why is it's not about not believing in God, it's about rejecting narrative God.
00:45:03.000 And when you try to explain, so I think it's an issue of order of thinking, which goes back to we're talking about the apples in essence.
00:45:10.000 So, and then we'll talk about Zorhan Mamdani a second because the order of thinking thing is a huge issue in politics.
00:45:15.000 But when I was younger, I grew up Catholic and they talked about God, and it was presented to me like a cartoon character.
00:45:22.000 They would make us watch videos where God was a cartoon figure with like a big beard or whatever.
00:45:27.000 They showed me a video where Adam was riding a brontosaurus from Adam and Eve and like Adam's on a brontosaurus.
00:45:32.000 And so I said, this is insane.
00:45:33.000 This is not real.
00:45:35.000 So then I said, I'm an atheist because I don't believe in.
00:45:38.000 The specific cartoon character they showed me in school.
00:45:40.000 Then I read some books, learned about quantum physics and theology, and I said, Oh, God is real.
00:45:45.000 But God isn't the cartoon character that they're trying to portray him to be.
00:45:48.000 He is something beyond.
00:45:49.000 I think Michael Knoll says it well when he says, God is the logos of the universe.
00:45:53.000 So, what I find typically when I talk to atheists is that their perception of what God is is a guy in a robe who lives in the clouds.
00:46:00.000 When you try to explain the concept of infinity itself, you run into an issue with orders of thinking where some people genuinely can't conceive of what infinity actually means.
00:46:10.000 People think infinity is a number, it is not a number.
00:46:13.000 It's substantially more than that.
00:46:16.000 And if you go to someone and you ask them what infinity means, they'll be like a number that never ends.
00:46:21.000 That's low ordered thinking.
00:46:22.000 It doesn't mean they're stupid.
00:46:23.000 You'd say, yes, but the true concept of infinity beyond that.
00:46:27.000 And they might say, I don't know.
00:46:28.000 Maybe they just need to be educated so they can learn and expand their minds, or maybe they're limited and they can never really understand.
00:46:34.000 I think there's a reason why you see, I would put it this way low IQ people who believe in God just do so because they can't see, they can't.
00:46:44.000 Understand cause and effect.
00:46:45.000 They just, there's a God.
00:46:46.000 It must be.
00:46:47.000 Midwit individuals start looking around for evidence and then say, if I see evidence of X, then I demand evidence of Y.
00:46:53.000 And if there is no evidence of God that I can perceive in this reality, God must not exist.
00:46:57.000 That's low ordered thinking.
00:46:59.000 At the highest levels, you look at it like a Sudoku puzzle and you say, you know, everything kind of adds up to there is a God.
00:47:06.000 But if God offends your modern sensibilities, just say infinity.
00:47:12.000 All is one.
00:47:13.000 There is a greater.
00:47:14.000 There is something that makes all.
00:47:16.000 Cyclical is a limitation on the all.
00:47:17.000 Cyclical function is how I see infinity.
00:47:20.000 I mean, obviously, it never ends.
00:47:22.000 It's just the function of the cycle.
00:47:24.000 And then it's kind of like what God is as well.
00:47:25.000 It just continues.
00:47:27.000 If it is the subatomic vortex, reversing entropy, it's just this.
00:47:31.000 But I don't know why.
00:47:31.000 I'm going to give you a human microscopic image of infinity.
00:47:36.000 It's probably not what God is.
00:47:37.000 That's what God's doing is creating vortexes.
00:47:40.000 I think it's how it's communicating with us through black holes.
00:47:43.000 This is learn about E8 Lie groups so you can start to graze over what infinity means.
00:47:49.000 And I think to most people, they just go, is it a tapestry?
00:47:54.000 Understanding infinity is beyond me.
00:47:56.000 But my point is, the degree to which you can understand what infinity represents will reflect in your order of thinking.
00:48:04.000 Yeah, I had started to have this vision in 2012 where I would visualize infinity.
00:48:08.000 I'd get fast, I'd be backing away from this flat plane, and it was like just a flat surface.
00:48:14.000 And I'd back away, and it would be getting smaller and smaller and smaller.
00:48:16.000 But as it was getting smaller and further away, it's getting bigger.
00:48:20.000 So I'm getting further away as it's getting bigger.
00:48:22.000 So it's not changing shape in my perception, but I know I'm getting further away and it's getting bigger.
00:48:27.000 At the same moment, and it like opens up something in my lower back brain just visualizing that, especially laying down and like kind of bending it up.
00:48:35.000 I've seen this on some bedroom walls when I was younger and dating.
00:48:38.000 This just gives me PTSD from my dating years.
00:48:41.000 This is a microscopic grain of sand in the Sahara Desert of what infinity could actually be.
00:48:47.000 And so, good luck, I guess.
00:48:50.000 It does feel cheap to say there is a god because I still don't know, but there's a god shaped hole in the Sudoku puzzle, whatever that means.
00:48:57.000 Like, there's some function that obviously.
00:48:59.000 Well, I guess it seems like.
00:49:00.000 Ian, let me tell you something.
00:49:03.000 Are you a sentient being?
00:49:04.000 I think so.
00:49:05.000 You think, therefore, you are?
00:49:06.000 Yeah.
00:49:07.000 So, do you exist within the rules and confines of the universe?
00:49:11.000 You do.
00:49:11.000 Seem to, yeah.
00:49:12.000 And so, consciousness is a component of that universe, correct?
00:49:15.000 Yeah.
00:49:16.000 So, what is the difference between the conscious entity of you and electrons?
00:49:20.000 It's the complexity of it.
00:49:21.000 You are both functions that exist within the laws and rules of this universe.
00:49:26.000 Your consciousness is a component connected to the logos of the universe.
00:49:31.000 It means the universe is conscious.
00:49:31.000 You know, it's more about.
00:49:34.000 God is real.
00:49:35.000 We can go into a million different arguments and expanding this concept, but I would put it this way.
00:49:40.000 Another question Do you believe that the human consciousness is the end all be all of consciousness?
00:49:45.000 No.
00:49:46.000 Of course not.
00:49:46.000 There's probably something much more expansive.
00:49:48.000 So I'll put it this way The presumption we can make is that our conscious entities are within the confines of existence in the universe, like any other chemical reaction or reality based phenomenon.
00:50:02.000 We know that things in the universe don't exist outside the universe, which means if you were to zoom out of the universe and view it in its totality like you would the Earth, consciousness is a percentage of existence.
00:50:13.000 Oh, yeah.
00:50:14.000 We also can presume we are not the highest form of consciousness.
00:50:17.000 That would be arrogant and silly, considering on Earth we see scales of consciousness.
00:50:23.000 It was once believed that animals were either sentient or they weren't.
00:50:26.000 And in Star Trek, a great example is that data says my cat is not sentient.
00:50:30.000 We don't, science doesn't view it that way anymore.
00:50:33.000 They now see it as degrees.
00:50:35.000 You view it as a gradient.
00:50:37.000 Some animals have more acute perception and understanding of reality than others, and we have the highest that we know of on this planet.
00:50:44.000 To presume that we are the end of that would be silly, considering we can map all these brains and see these functions.
00:50:50.000 So, stands to reason, consciousness is a component of reality.
00:50:56.000 If we look at fire as something simple and the sun as something greater, but similar in many ways, and they're kind of different, you can then scale things up and see that.
00:51:07.000 Consciousness as a concept could scale to the size of the universe.
00:51:12.000 Likely is true.
00:51:13.000 I think that scale and that pattern and these things point to the existence of the logos of the universe.
00:51:19.000 Honestly, if your body was compressed and heated enough in a deoxygenated chamber, you would turn into plasma and it would still be you, but you'd be in a hyper liquid fluid state of plasmatic gas and sentience.
00:51:32.000 The sentience wouldn't just disappear.
00:51:35.000 I think it's fair to surmise astral consciousness exists.
00:51:38.000 That's not God.
00:51:39.000 That's just that there are higher forms of consciousness beyond ours.
00:51:44.000 Based on the function of the universe, I bet God is still pretty a rudimentary term.
00:51:50.000 Like, once we get deeper and deeper, we'll be like, oh, there's like layers of what is going on.
00:51:55.000 See, again, like to go to atheists, they imagine when you say God, there's like a dude holding a book who's like in the clouds, being like, I'm going to watch you.
00:52:01.000 And then when you try to explain to them quantum physics, E8 Lie groups, when you try to explain like M theory and these things we think we know and are probably wrong, they go, I don't know.
00:52:12.000 So, do you guys meditate?
00:52:13.000 Do you guys meditate at all?
00:52:14.000 Yeah.
00:52:15.000 In the shower, I guess, when the water's running, I'm thinking about all sorts of things.
00:52:17.000 I do like riding the stationary bike and like doing other stuff.
00:52:20.000 I consider that meditation almost.
00:52:22.000 Because, like, if we're in a simulation and your mind is in massive control, like, that's meditation is the ultimate power because you can shut it down at will.
00:52:29.000 Yeah, I pray.
00:52:31.000 Like, that's the amount of onslaught of demoralization porn that's on Twitter, well, just everywhere.
00:52:36.000 I mean, you need those moments of just.
00:52:37.000 You got to pray that gay away, bro.
00:52:39.000 Yeah, it's so true.
00:52:39.000 It's real.
00:52:41.000 Yeah, you absolutely need those moments just to like lock in and realize.
00:52:45.000 You know, it's not actually, I mean, it's dire, sure, but like you can only control what you can control in your immediate.
00:52:51.000 Let's get super crazy and deep with it.
00:52:55.000 What if a thousand, two thousand years ago, everyone knew you could manifest things with your mind?
00:53:02.000 Praying was a real thing that people would do with tangible results before them.
00:53:07.000 Like you'd literally, you're out in the middle of the woods and you're like, I'm gonna need some food.
00:53:12.000 So you'd get on your knees, you'd put your hands together and say, please provide me with food.
00:53:16.000 And then all of a sudden, an animal would walk up to you and just die right on the spot.
00:53:20.000 And you'd be like, thank you.
00:53:21.000 What if that's the way it used to be?
00:53:25.000 To manifest things in reality through prayer was tied to the amount of people asking.
00:53:30.000 That is, if there's one guy in the middle of the woods and he says, Please save me, and then all of a sudden a rain.
00:53:36.000 Actually, let's do it this way.
00:53:37.000 I love that joke where the guy is in his house and there's a heavy rainstorm and a car pulls up, or the storm says, Flood warning, evacuate now.
00:53:47.000 And he prays, Dear Lord, please don't let me die in this flood.
00:53:50.000 Then he hears a knock on the door and there's a guy in a raincoat.
00:53:53.000 He's got a truck.
00:53:54.000 He goes, Quick, we got to get out of here.
00:53:55.000 We're evacuating.
00:53:56.000 The flood's coming.
00:53:57.000 And he says, No, no, my Lord will save me.
00:53:59.000 And the floodwaters rise, so he goes to the second floor and he says, Please, God, the flood's here, please don't let me die.
00:54:05.000 And then a boat pulls up to the window and he says, Quick, get in, the flood's getting worse.
00:54:09.000 And he goes, No, my God will save me.
00:54:11.000 The floodwaters rise and he climbs up onto his roof and he's begging, God, please don't let me die in this flood.
00:54:16.000 And then a helicopter flies over and they throw a rope down and they go, Get the rope, we're evacuating now.
00:54:22.000 And he goes, No, my Lord will save me.
00:54:24.000 Then the floodwaters rise, he drowns and dies.
00:54:27.000 Finds himself at the pearly gates and they walk him into heaven and he stands before God and he says, I don't understand, I was faithful.
00:54:33.000 I begged you to save me.
00:54:34.000 Why wouldn't you?
00:54:35.000 And he goes, I sent a car, a boat, and a helicopter, and you wouldn't take it.
00:54:39.000 Yeah, the prayers are answered in unexpected ways.
00:54:42.000 Now, here's my point.
00:54:44.000 I love that because the implication is you can ask and you shall receive, right?
00:54:48.000 But what happens when you have 8 billion people and they're all asking for different things?
00:54:53.000 What happens?
00:54:54.000 You ever see Bruce Almighty when he's like, you know what?
00:54:56.000 I don't want to answer these prayers.
00:54:58.000 Yes to all.
00:54:59.000 And then everyone wins the lottery.
00:55:01.000 So, what happens when every single person is praying for the same thing?
00:55:05.000 It's not Possible for God to grant everybody what they want.
00:55:09.000 So, what if way back when, when populations were few and far between, were very sparse, it was easy to pray and receive.
00:55:19.000 As populations started to grow, they began to pray for conflicting things, which reduces the effectiveness of successful prayer.
00:55:26.000 They call it the spiritual war, maybe.
00:55:27.000 You have one nation praying for food, the other nation praying for food, and the fish aren't going to.
00:55:34.000 There's only so much food.
00:55:35.000 So, then what happens is the powerful elites who know.
00:55:38.000 This is true.
00:55:39.000 Say, how do we restore the ability to pray and receive?
00:55:43.000 We have to eliminate the ability for people to connect with the divine.
00:55:49.000 So they lie to us, they trick us, they deceive us, or they poison us, they damage our bodies.
00:55:54.000 The conspiracy theory is that they put fluoride in the water so it calcifies your pineal gland, which you need to perceive divinity, and then your prayers don't work anymore.
00:56:02.000 People start becoming atheists and they give up on religion, but the powerful elites still can just say, I would like to have a billion dollars and.
00:56:10.000 Asking, she shall receive.
00:56:11.000 What you're focusing on is basically your prayer.
00:56:13.000 Even if you're looking at a wall and talking about the wall, you're praying for a wall.
00:56:19.000 So, TV is the way that the elites or radio are able to control your prayers by getting you to focus and think about what they put on the TV.
00:56:27.000 And then, what happens if they eliminate 8 billion people and leave only a couple hundred million?
00:56:32.000 The strength of the individual prayer goes up.
00:56:37.000 I kind of find how powerful elites might also be praying to something else other than God.
00:56:42.000 Well, what do you think they're praying for?
00:56:44.000 Well, there was always, you know, there was always those theories that they were messing around with like demons and stuff.
00:56:48.000 Yeah.
00:56:49.000 Working with them to.
00:56:50.000 How about this?
00:56:51.000 Technology is just demons handing over stuff that way.
00:56:53.000 Well, we talked about like the kid with the ants and the dude with the food.
00:56:58.000 Think about it like there's some pigeons, you know, and they're walking around.
00:57:02.000 And, or actually, Sue Crow is a better example, right?
00:57:05.000 There's the guy who built that crow vending machine.
00:57:08.000 What he did was he built a machine and he put a bunch of nuts on the tray and coins.
00:57:16.000 Crows would land on the tray and eat the nuts.
00:57:20.000 Instinctively, what crows do when they finish all the food is they sweep the ground looking for more.
00:57:25.000 What this did was the crows would knock the coins into the hole, which would make nuts fall down.
00:57:30.000 The crows quickly learned if I put coins in the hole, nuts come down.
00:57:35.000 He then scattered coins around the base of the machine.
00:57:38.000 The crows would hop down, grab a coin, jump up, drop it in the hole, nuts would come down.
00:57:42.000 Once all the coins were in the machine, the crows would fly around the neighborhood looking for coins, bringing them to the vending machine.
00:57:48.000 This guy got crows to start making money for him, selling them nuts.
00:57:53.000 The crows don't understand what they're doing or why.
00:57:56.000 So imagine the powerful elites as the crow.
00:57:59.000 They start acting in ways that demons like.
00:58:01.000 And so the demons give them benefits.
00:58:04.000 These things could be slaughtering children.
00:58:07.000 Other people start catering to the angels and to the divine, doing things that God and the angels like.
00:58:12.000 And they get rewards too.
00:58:14.000 What if we just perceive it as they're worshiping Malak and sacrificing babies to demons, but it could be as simple as they're providing some benefit to a demon for which he's rewarding them as if they were just some lowly animal?
00:58:26.000 Yeah, because a demon could answer your prayers just like an angel could.
00:58:30.000 It could vibrate reality to make the thing appear just like they have equal abilities.
00:58:34.000 They're just twisted in different ways.
00:58:38.000 That proves it.
00:58:40.000 Yeah, I had some interesting thing I was going to bring up about it.
00:58:43.000 But you forgot?
00:58:45.000 What you were saying was so interesting.
00:58:46.000 I want to keep going down this road.
00:58:48.000 Okay.
00:58:50.000 I'll remember.
00:58:52.000 I've noticed, talk about manifestation.
00:58:53.000 If you ever think you forgot something, say out loud, I'll remember.
00:58:56.000 You tell your body that, your body believes you, and then relax, and the memory will come back.
00:59:01.000 To be fair, I do think that, while I don't know that I believe like manifesting is a thing where you like sit there and ask and it happens, I will certainly say in my life, I've gotten what I've asked for.
00:59:11.000 Like, I don't know if you've experienced this.
00:59:13.000 I'm also asking prayer.
00:59:14.000 To make these things happen, you've got to put yourself in a situation for them to happen.
00:59:17.000 You're never going to win the lottery if you don't play a lottery.
00:59:19.000 Oh, yeah, you've got to be ready.
00:59:20.000 You know, you're never going to find a partner if you're not out there, like, you know, If you haven't won the lottery, you're just going to keep going and going and going and going.
00:59:27.000 You know why college students never won the lottery?
00:59:29.000 Too smart to play.
00:59:31.000 That's funny.
00:59:32.000 Too dumb to lose.
00:59:32.000 Fools.
00:59:34.000 I was thinking about mass prayer while you were talking because you were talking about the more people that I tried in 2007, early days of YouTube.
00:59:40.000 I was like, what if we all got on Stick'em?
00:59:41.000 Stick'em.com.
00:59:42.000 You guys remember that website?
00:59:43.000 Yeah, exactly.
00:59:44.000 And we did a mass prayer, me and Katie's opinion, Katie saw.
00:59:47.000 And we could only get 1,900 people in there before the whole system crashed.
00:59:52.000 But I think servers are better now.
00:59:53.000 You could get 10,000, 30,000 people together to have a unified prayer in a moment.
00:59:58.000 Mm hmm.
00:59:58.000 Dude, I don't know if humanity's ever done that yet.
01:00:01.000 If we did that effectively, let's schedule that.
01:00:05.000 Yeah.
01:00:05.000 It's on a calendar.
01:00:05.000 Yeah.
01:00:07.000 Yeah.
01:00:08.000 We something.
01:00:09.000 I think the servers can handle a million.
01:00:11.000 I don't know what they can handle now.
01:00:12.000 Candace Owens had like 400,000.
01:00:14.000 I don't know how many hundred.
01:00:15.000 What was the other cases that Trump had with Elon that one time?
01:00:19.000 250.
01:00:19.000 Well, X. Here's another thing to consider, though.
01:00:21.000 It's a little misleading because if you leave the video, it still says there's a watcher.
01:00:26.000 Here's something to consider with that internet theory.
01:00:28.000 What if views have always been fake?
01:00:31.000 What if it has always been the case that when you look at a video with a publicly displayed view count, it was never real?
01:00:38.000 So, when you look at podcasts on Spotify, Apple, these other networks, Podcorn is one of them.
01:00:44.000 You can't see the numbers.
01:00:46.000 They never release how many people actually listen to those episodes.
01:00:49.000 But on YouTube, the video will show you a number.
01:00:52.000 Why did they need that to be there?
01:00:54.000 Honest question.
01:00:56.000 Well, I think if you're the provider, like if, and I love YouTube, but like if you're the YouTube, like you want people, the numbers there to perceive that people are using the platform as well.
01:01:05.000 In which case, the number doesn't matter, or I should say, the viewership doesn't matter, the number matters.
01:01:10.000 Right.
01:01:11.000 So if YouTube is trying to say this is the kind of content that works, why would they ever show the real number?
01:01:17.000 They would show high numbers on content they want to exist.
01:01:19.000 Right.
01:01:20.000 Maybe.
01:01:21.000 With Mines, we were ethical about it.
01:01:24.000 What was the point of showing the views publicly instead of on the back end?
01:01:28.000 So that people know what of their content's doing well.
01:01:31.000 Exactly.
01:01:32.000 And so, my point is if you were the deep state and you saw that Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube were influencing people, it's real easy.
01:01:41.000 You'd go in and just be like, if it's in favor of what we want, make it get a lot of views.
01:01:46.000 And if it's not, make it get no views.
01:01:48.000 You think they were doing it since the beginning, basically?
01:01:50.000 They do that now.
01:01:51.000 I mean, DARPA was like, they built the internet.
01:01:54.000 You know, it was deep state tech in the 60s or something.
01:01:56.000 So maybe, yeah, sorry to interrupt.
01:01:58.000 No, no, no, no, you're 100%.
01:02:00.000 But like, they do this now, they artificially make trends.
01:02:02.000 You see this, what's it called when they kind of make a.
01:02:05.000 There's a word for it, I'm blanking.
01:02:07.000 They introduce like a celebrity and it's like a plant, like a.
01:02:09.000 Celebrity plant.
01:02:10.000 Yeah, celebrity plant.
01:02:11.000 It's like this industry plant.
01:02:12.000 Industry plant.
01:02:13.000 Yeah, you have this in politics too.
01:02:14.000 All of a sudden somebody pops out.
01:02:15.000 Astroturf it.
01:02:16.000 Yeah, and it's like this person has nothing interesting to say, but all of a sudden, like all their stuff's getting viewed and retweets.
01:02:21.000 Yeah, that's why people bought views is because it creates the idea of consensus, right?
01:02:25.000 Like if there's consensus, or at least if the masses are sort of endorsing it by saying, yeah, I sat and watched it, that indicates that there must be something of value here.
01:02:33.000 When's the last time you watched a video that has like 30 views?
01:02:36.000 You have, what's his name from Twitter is like cracking down on this where they want people to be, to disclose that they're being paid because you have a lot of these political influencers that are doing like, they're promoting policy positions or politicians and they're not disclosing like, oh, I'm being paid to say this.
01:02:52.000 Yeah, literally.
01:02:53.000 If we were going to pray for something, what would be the best thing to pray for?
01:02:53.000 Right?
01:02:57.000 A million dollars.
01:02:58.000 For everybody?
01:02:59.000 No.
01:02:59.000 For you?
01:03:00.000 We don't want to, I don't want to get 20,000 people to pray for you to get a million bucks, dude.
01:03:00.000 Yeah.
01:03:04.000 Do something more holistic.
01:03:06.000 Do like, do something more agape.
01:03:08.000 Love of the community.
01:03:08.000 Right.
01:03:09.000 Yeah.
01:03:10.000 The issue is asking, you know, like all in all, with, you know, all of our metrics, we might get like 500 to 600,000 views in this episode.
01:03:19.000 Then with the clip, might get an additional 50 to 100.
01:03:22.000 Is that enough prayer to overcome 8.2 billion requests?
01:03:27.000 I don't know.
01:03:27.000 I don't know how it works.
01:03:28.000 If it didn't, it's like the more, probably the more attuned their third eye is, the more powerful their prayer is.
01:03:33.000 So you recruit really powerful people with a good third eye.
01:03:36.000 But also, what could you pray for that wouldn't contradict or hurt somebody?
01:03:39.000 Else, right?
01:03:39.000 Like, for example, if you were to pray for all the oceans turned into drinkable water so that we always have drinkable water, well, then you ruin the ecosystem.
01:03:47.000 Well, you destroy the earth.
01:03:47.000 Right.
01:03:48.000 You destroy the earth.
01:03:48.000 I'm just saying, like, this is a really rudimentary, like, basic example.
01:03:51.000 But, like, what could you pay?
01:03:52.000 What could everybody pray for that wouldn't have negative consequences?
01:03:55.000 Right.
01:03:56.000 Well, and you also have the thing at 11 11, when everyone's making a wish, that there's one guy out there saying, I pray that no one's wish comes true.
01:04:02.000 Oh, God's basically, he's like chilling up there at his desk and he's like, okay, that's all 8.2 billion.
01:04:07.000 I got, oh, one left.
01:04:08.000 So we'll do yes to everybody.
01:04:10.000 And then one guy's like, I wish nobody got anything.
01:04:12.000 Okay, my job's done.
01:04:14.000 Yeah, there's just one guy playing spoiler at this one.
01:04:17.000 There's just some dirt bag.
01:04:19.000 Maybe.
01:04:20.000 Or maybe he knows.
01:04:21.000 He goes like, if everyone got their wish, it would destroy the ocean.
01:04:23.000 So he's like, no, no wishes.
01:04:24.000 He justifies it.
01:04:25.000 I think we unintentionally built a spoiler with electricity because it's so useful for getting food and these basic human monkey things, but it's messing up the third eye, like the frequency.
01:04:35.000 Why?
01:04:36.000 Why is it messing it up?
01:04:37.000 No, like, what do you say?
01:04:38.000 Like, you're making that up.
01:04:40.000 Well, I think the magnetic fields are interfering with our thoughts.
01:04:43.000 I don't know.
01:04:44.000 I don't know.
01:04:44.000 But, like, when you go out and you're talking about electricity for a little while, it's very different.
01:04:49.000 Well, it's just the fluoride.
01:04:51.000 Yeah.
01:04:51.000 In addition to fluoride, it might be having compounding effects.
01:04:54.000 Well, calcification.
01:04:56.000 Yeah, I was talking to Alex Jones and Mike Cernovich a few years ago, and they were explaining how when you take DMT, those things you see are demons.
01:05:04.000 You think that you believe that?
01:05:05.000 That they're demons?
01:05:06.000 Do you subscribe to that theory?
01:05:08.000 Well, I just depends on your definition of demon, I guess.
01:05:10.000 You think they're evil?
01:05:11.000 No, no.
01:05:12.000 Because that was what was argued to me, and I don't have any rationale for why they would be evil.
01:05:19.000 What they were saying is that they'll offer you a deal.
01:05:21.000 Which is information.
01:05:23.000 They'll tell you what to do, how to do it, when to do it, and how to get what you want if you agree to do it.
01:05:29.000 And I said, What's the downside?
01:05:30.000 And they're like, It's just the deal.
01:05:32.000 I'm like, What's wrong with taking information from entities?
01:05:35.000 And apparently, I guess the idea is that the things they want you to do that get you success are bad for humanity or it's good for demons.
01:05:43.000 But my attitude is like, I'm told by the corporate press to ignore Alex Jones because he's evil and he's a liar.
01:05:49.000 But then I go and I investigate.
01:05:50.000 It turns out he's actually.
01:05:52.000 An honest guy who's trying to just provide his perspective and help people break through the noise.
01:05:57.000 If I just believed what the machine told me, I would say, no, away with you, Alex Jones.
01:06:02.000 So maybe these entities are just.
01:06:04.000 So you don't have that the concept of evil is subjective in that.
01:06:08.000 No, no, no, no.
01:06:09.000 I'm saying that typically when you encounter an entity in the DMT realm, it doesn't mean they're evil.
01:06:14.000 Well, I mean, if the entity, for example, and I'm just, this is, we're just playing around with here, but like if the entity, like in order for that to get that information, the exchange is, we want you to kill a child, we could argue that that is a bad deal.
01:06:24.000 Yes.
01:06:24.000 Yeah.
01:06:24.000 And that's a demon.
01:06:25.000 That's an evil thing.
01:06:26.000 Right, right.
01:06:27.000 But it doesn't mean that all entities are demons.
01:06:30.000 There might be an entity who'll be like, hey, Ian, I'm going to give you lottery numbers.
01:06:33.000 Nothing.
01:06:33.000 What do you want?
01:06:34.000 Just win the lottery.
01:06:35.000 Some of them will offer you things.
01:06:36.000 I think people have told me those are the demons.
01:06:38.000 Watch out for the ones that offer you things in exchange for something you want.
01:06:41.000 But the ones that want nothing, the ones that want for nothing, they're just there and present with you are very healing.
01:06:46.000 And if you ask them things, they'll tell you.
01:06:47.000 Yeah, it's like buy iTunes gift cards and I will give you something.
01:06:50.000 No, no, no, hold on.
01:06:51.000 It's a demon.
01:06:52.000 Why do I throw food out for the deer?
01:06:55.000 Oh, to feed them is the dumbest answer, but to make more of them so you can hunt them later.
01:07:00.000 It probably also makes you feel good.
01:07:01.000 Like, oh, I did something good.
01:07:02.000 And so maybe some entities are like, Ian, I'm going to help you out because you asked.
01:07:05.000 I don't need anything in return.
01:07:06.000 Yes, those I think are the angels.
01:07:08.000 If you want to separate or parse the gradient of evil to good, the ones that don't ask, it's kind of like humans too.
01:07:13.000 Like friends that aren't trying to get something out of you are real friends.
01:07:16.000 What if an entity says something like, I love Lindor chocolate truffles?
01:07:24.000 If you give me a bag of those, I'll give you the stocks that are going to go up this week.
01:07:29.000 No, no, no.
01:07:29.000 That would be like a demonic trade.
01:07:31.000 It's like, bro, I just wanted some chocolate.
01:07:31.000 How is it demonic?
01:07:33.000 That's like DoorDash, man.
01:07:34.000 Yeah.
01:07:35.000 I don't know if it's true, but that's fine.
01:07:37.000 Find DoorDash.
01:07:39.000 From what I think Michael Malice told me that, from people that have told me over the years, the ones that ask you and propose things to you are the demons.
01:07:45.000 Watch out for them.
01:07:46.000 Be more like.
01:07:47.000 I got to be real.
01:07:48.000 If a demon came to me, imagine this purple little goat legged creature going, I'm going to give you the lottery numbers in exchange for a Hershey's chocolate bar.
01:07:59.000 Mwah!
01:07:59.000 I'd be like, okay.
01:08:01.000 Sure.
01:08:01.000 But we know they're not asking.
01:08:03.000 How about I get you two of them?
01:08:03.000 But if they have the ability to do these things, we know that they're not asking for that sort of basics.
01:08:10.000 I think it's silly to assume.
01:08:11.000 Well, yeah, we do business with characters like that all the time.
01:08:14.000 We make car salesmen.
01:08:15.000 Yeah.
01:08:15.000 But at the beginning, they'll be like, give me a chocolate bar.
01:08:17.000 Then they'll be like, get me five chocolate bars.
01:08:19.000 Then they'll be like, get me your son's chocolate bars.
01:08:21.000 Then they'll be like, get me two.
01:08:22.000 That's a you problem, though.
01:08:23.000 Listen, watch out for that.
01:08:24.000 If a guy comes to my house, knocks on the door, and he says, I've got a suitcase with a million dollars in it just for you, cash money on the spot.
01:08:33.000 Kill a baby.
01:08:34.000 Sometimes they'll be like, I'll give you charisma if you eat a chocolate bar.
01:08:34.000 I'd be like, no.
01:08:38.000 There's a lot of people that would say yes.
01:08:39.000 Especially in.
01:08:40.000 Especially if this demon could guarantee you're not going to get in trouble for it.
01:08:40.000 And that's on them.
01:08:43.000 You just have to do it.
01:08:44.000 This is my point.
01:08:45.000 This is my point with the demons thing.
01:08:46.000 You don't want to lose.
01:08:47.000 If a guy came by and knocked on the door and said, I have a million dollars for you and I'm going to buy it in exchange for that mallet you have on your desk, I'd be like, deal.
01:08:55.000 It's like, oh, you did a deal with a demon.
01:08:57.000 I did a trade with a guy for a hammer.
01:08:59.000 I think they try to give you things that you don't want to lose.
01:09:02.000 And then they're like, now give me this to maintain it.
01:09:04.000 You're not listening.
01:09:05.000 Well, if they give you items, I don't think they give you literal items.
01:09:08.000 Slow down and stop.
01:09:09.000 You said those that ask for something are demons.
01:09:11.000 And my point is not all trades are evil.
01:09:15.000 Right.
01:09:15.000 That's it.
01:09:16.000 And I don't know that those are demons, but people have told me the ones that ask for things are usually demons.
01:09:19.000 Which doesn't make sense because not all trades are evil.
01:09:23.000 Right?
01:09:24.000 Definitely not.
01:09:25.000 So they're not demons.
01:09:25.000 Yeah.
01:09:26.000 An angel might say, I will make your life better, but you must pledge to me.
01:09:30.000 And they say, What must I pledge?
01:09:31.000 Go to church on Sunday.
01:09:32.000 Well, they won't even do that.
01:09:33.000 Is that evil?
01:09:33.000 They won't do any of that unless you ask, and then they'll tell you.
01:09:36.000 But the demons may just pledge.
01:09:37.000 My point is if an entity came to you and said, I will grant you a better life, you will get a better job, you will find a family.
01:09:46.000 You will have your own house, but you must pledge unto me that you will follow my commands.
01:09:49.000 I wouldn't do it.
01:09:50.000 And then you say, What do you command of me?
01:09:52.000 Stop taking drugs, start going to church, clean yourself up.
01:09:57.000 Is that wrong?
01:09:58.000 Are those demons?
01:09:59.000 It sounds like a demon's.
01:10:00.000 That's just Jordan Peterson.
01:10:01.000 Well, clean your room.
01:10:01.000 Yeah.
01:10:03.000 You've got to clean your room if you want the lobster.
01:10:05.000 You want the chocolate bar.
01:10:07.000 It's like, well, perhaps it's time to clean the room, man.
01:10:10.000 That might be what goes on.
01:10:12.000 See, I take issue with this because an angel would command you to clean your life up and go to church.
01:10:18.000 I don't know.
01:10:18.000 Which would also just naturally make your life better anyway.
01:10:20.000 Exactly.
01:10:21.000 That's the point.
01:10:21.000 They don't really force you.
01:10:23.000 They're like present.
01:10:24.000 They're with you and will help you if you need it.
01:10:26.000 But the idea that a demon comes to you and said, if you want to have a better life and a family, go to church and stop taking drugs.
01:10:35.000 Like, that's not a bad deal.
01:10:36.000 That's a good deal.
01:10:37.000 There might be neutral entities.
01:10:38.000 But then you wouldn't label that as a demon, right?
01:10:41.000 That's my point.
01:10:41.000 Like, if an angel came to you, like literally a divine entity, a gigantic wheel with full eyes and feathers or whatever, and it spoke from within your chest, telling you, stop doing drugs, start exercising, eat healthy.
01:10:53.000 That's not a bad deal.
01:10:55.000 But if it's like, and then all will be given to you, it's like, ooh, wait, what is this doing to me?
01:10:59.000 What is this trying to get me to want?
01:11:00.000 Because if you want from the spirits, that's a big problem.
01:11:03.000 If you expect, then I think Ian's moral compass is broken.
01:11:06.000 Well, that's for sure, dude.
01:11:08.000 You know me pretty well, too.
01:11:10.000 I mean, I'm a weird one.
01:11:12.000 I'm more into like neutral energy than good and evil.
01:11:16.000 If God commanded you to kill a baby, would you do it?
01:11:19.000 No, no.
01:11:20.000 I would imagine it wasn't really God either.
01:11:22.000 What if God wanted you to sacrifice your only son?
01:11:24.000 No.
01:11:25.000 You wouldn't do it?
01:11:25.000 No, no.
01:11:26.000 What about you?
01:11:28.000 I don't know.
01:11:28.000 I'd have to think about that one.
01:11:29.000 I'd never thought about that.
01:11:30.000 You know, that's in the probably.
01:11:32.000 It's literally making a reference to when God was like, you had to do it.
01:11:32.000 Yeah.
01:11:32.000 I know.
01:11:35.000 If I would be able to confirm 100% it was God, like in a scenario, that's on fire yelling at you.
01:11:40.000 I think I'm tripping out.
01:11:42.000 But they have like, they have technology where they can beam thoughts in your head.
01:11:42.000 No.
01:11:45.000 So, like, literally, people will be like, God's commanding me to.
01:11:48.000 Don't do it.
01:11:48.000 Sure.
01:11:49.000 Like, it's not God.
01:11:50.000 God doesn't tell you to do it.
01:11:51.000 You know, it's funny.
01:11:52.000 It's like we laughed at that.
01:11:54.000 There is technology that can put a helmet on your head and they can blast you with so much magnetism, you feel the presence of God.
01:12:00.000 Isn't that crazy?
01:12:01.000 They did this experiment.
01:12:02.000 They put a helmet on people with like super high magnetism, just blasted their brains, and they all said they felt the presence of some powerful entity.
01:12:08.000 I think they're doing that the sphere right now.
01:12:10.000 Just listening to good music.
01:12:12.000 Maybe God does tell you to do something.
01:12:13.000 That's why they hijacked this pathway, is because they want to make you think it's God telling you.
01:12:18.000 Or they want to take away everyone's ability to talk to God so only they can.
01:12:22.000 Yeah.
01:12:23.000 What if God's up there and he's just like, he's on the phone and he's like, is this Trump?
01:12:29.000 Trump's like, it's me.
01:12:30.000 And he's like, I've been trying to get in touch with all of humanity, but.
01:12:34.000 I'm having trouble.
01:12:35.000 Oh, no.
01:12:35.000 You know, the line must be down.
01:12:37.000 You got to talk to me.
01:12:38.000 It's since they built the electrical grid.
01:12:40.000 God's like, I can't see them.
01:12:41.000 They went dark.
01:12:42.000 The electric grid is blurring my vision.
01:12:44.000 And I feel like he wouldn't be the guy he'd get because he would just filibuster.
01:12:47.000 He'd be like, We're building a great arch.
01:12:48.000 Great arch.
01:12:49.000 And it's like, Yeah, I know.
01:12:50.000 We're going to.
01:12:51.000 I'm doing really great in the polls.
01:12:52.000 Prayer connection to you.
01:12:53.000 It's going to be amazing.
01:12:54.000 You'll be able to talk to everybody again.
01:12:56.000 Just let me deal with it.
01:12:57.000 Maybe it's not being around electricity.
01:13:00.000 It's looking at it.
01:13:03.000 Like looking.
01:13:03.000 God literally does call people, but only like one guy and says, Listen, this is God.
01:13:08.000 Here's what you're going to do.
01:13:09.000 And then they do it.
01:13:10.000 Like one guy at a time.
01:13:11.000 It's just like, bro, I have eight million years.
01:13:12.000 I have eight million years.
01:13:13.000 I'm calling the phone because I get so many spam calls.
01:13:14.000 So he could be calling.
01:13:15.000 The thing is, what I'm saying is, like, in the Oval Office is like a purple phone that when you pick it up, it's God.
01:13:21.000 And they know it's God because, like, one day the phone appeared.
01:13:24.000 And the president was like, What's this phone?
01:13:26.000 It's not connected to anything.
01:13:27.000 And then it rang, and they were like, They picked it up.
01:13:29.000 And a voice was like, I'm God.
01:13:30.000 And then all of a sudden, like, a chocolate Sunday just onto the desk.
01:13:30.000 I'll prove it.
01:13:33.000 And it's like, I'm going to talk to you and only you.
01:13:35.000 And this is how we're going to run things from now on.
01:13:37.000 I mean, I thought.
01:13:38.000 And Bush is like, I invaded Iraq because God told me to.
01:13:40.000 Everyone's like, What a crazy guy.
01:13:42.000 They had like a quantum administration that was overseeing all these conventional AIs that built this super mind that's like a God talking to them and they can answer anything.
01:13:50.000 What if it's a simulation, but it's more like cityscape?
01:13:53.000 It's like some 20 year old college dude is playing.
01:13:56.000 And so he was like, he calls the president or whatever and says, listen, there's no way I'm talking to everybody in this game to do things.
01:14:04.000 I'm just going to tell you, you do it.
01:14:05.000 And then the president's like, oh, you're God.
01:14:07.000 And then he makes like a chocolate sundae appearance.
01:14:09.000 He does miracles to prove it.
01:14:10.000 And then he's like, so what do you want?
01:14:12.000 And he's like, high score.
01:14:14.000 It's like, I want the high score.
01:14:14.000 What does that mean?
01:14:16.000 I want the cultural victory.
01:14:17.000 And Bush is like, okay, I guess.
01:14:17.000 Go invade Iraq.
01:14:20.000 That'd be awesome.
01:14:22.000 That'd be so awesome.
01:14:23.000 Just invade.
01:14:24.000 Bush goes on TV and it's like, God told me to do it.
01:14:26.000 And everyone's like, he's nuts.
01:14:27.000 And then the 23 year old guy's like, awesome, we invaded Iraq.
01:14:30.000 I want to participate, but I have to pee and it's messing up my ability to communicate with God.
01:14:34.000 So if you ever have to urinate, do that and then pray after.
01:14:37.000 Yeah, they say that.
01:14:38.000 They say that in church.
01:14:39.000 They say your ability to communicate with God is hindered when you have to use the bathroom.
01:14:42.000 Yeah, bathrooms are great.
01:14:43.000 I always felt like I kind of lost.
01:14:44.000 Like when I played basketball, if you had to pee, you actually kind of like, Behaved, you played a little better because you kind of had that edge.
01:14:50.000 Can we make fun of women?
01:14:51.000 We could.
01:14:52.000 There's a lot of material there.
01:14:53.000 There's a lot of material.
01:14:54.000 We got this one.
01:14:55.000 Let's go.
01:14:55.000 We got this from The Poke.
01:14:58.000 A podcast bro said there were men's jobs and women's jobs, and this woman's A double plus takedown beat all comers.
01:15:07.000 It all began with a think piece about the myth of the independent girl boss, which need not overly bother us here.
01:15:14.000 But it prompted this response.
01:15:15.000 Quote, cheap immigrant labor to do their cooking, cleaning, and childcare is a funny way of saying it's not men's job to cook, clean, and do childcare.
01:15:23.000 Funny how men can go to work and no one yells at them for hiring a landscaper, which in was.
01:15:29.000 That's what it says.
01:15:30.000 Which inn was picked up by someone called Timcast.
01:15:33.000 Someone called Timcast with 2.6 million followers.
01:15:35.000 Come on, stop being obtuse.
01:15:37.000 Who is not only the host of Timcast.
01:15:38.000 IRL and CF Timcast, but also presents the Culture War podcast.
01:15:41.000 Woohoo.
01:15:41.000 Well, they misspelled Timcast.
01:15:43.000 That just shows you why they don't put their name on the article.
01:15:44.000 Timksat.
01:15:45.000 I don't even know what that is.
01:15:47.000 Sounds like a text.
01:15:48.000 Here's what I said.
01:15:49.000 So Helen said, Good peace with a simple thesis.
01:15:52.000 The girl boss lifestyle would not exist if we're not massively subsidized.
01:15:56.000 Then she said, cheap immigrant labor, blah, blah.
01:15:58.000 I said, Helen is correct.
01:15:59.000 There are men's jobs and women's jobs.
01:16:00.000 Men work in sewers, manual labor, et cetera.
01:16:02.000 Women work in schools, hospitals, and service jobs.
01:16:05.000 My response is in no way disparaging to women at all.
01:16:07.000 Literally, just pointing out a thing that is true.
01:16:10.000 Across all cultures, especially in Scandinavia, when they created more laws to try and create gender equality, women still chose, at a higher degree, women's jobs.
01:16:20.000 That is, jobs that are more likely to be social.
01:16:23.000 And so then they're like, oh, she got him.
01:16:26.000 This person said, in what sewer do you work, Tim?
01:16:29.000 Podcasting, which I think we all agree is a sewer.
01:16:32.000 Literally.
01:16:33.000 Uh, here Emily may responded, Tim, you type on a phone and speak into a microphone.
01:16:37.000 Your hands have zero calluses.
01:16:39.000 Not sure why you're going to bat for man's jobs when you don't want any of them.
01:16:42.000 Now, this is a funny thing.
01:16:44.000 The first thing I'm going to say is the joke my joke response is my fingers have been calloused for 30 plus years from playing guitar.
01:16:51.000 So I have massive calluses and an excellent grip and guitar hand.
01:16:54.000 Look at those.
01:16:55.000 Look at that finger spread.
01:16:56.000 Uh, I also used to work for American Eagle Airlines where I would lift around 30,000 pounds of luggage every day.
01:17:02.000 That was for two years.
01:17:03.000 And, uh, Did work for the chickens periodically.
01:17:07.000 Like, I'm a guy.
01:17:08.000 I lift bags.
01:17:09.000 I lift stuff all the time.
01:17:11.000 That's funny.
01:17:12.000 Like, women can't open pickle jars.
01:17:15.000 That's true.
01:17:16.000 And they're like, there's now.
01:17:18.000 Listen, they sell devices for opening pickle jars.
01:17:20.000 I know it's for the disabled, but women sometimes get them as well.
01:17:23.000 It clamps to the jar and goes and pops them open.
01:17:26.000 You just got to get that spoon up in the lid and like pry a little air.
01:17:29.000 You get a little whack with a butter knife to break the bag.
01:17:32.000 Or heat it, run it under hot water and the metal will expand and then it's real easy.
01:17:35.000 Here's the funny thing though.
01:17:37.000 Here's the funny thing.
01:17:39.000 I responded, podcasting is a man's job.
01:17:41.000 I asked ChatGPT, what percent of podcasts are hosted and run by men?
01:17:45.000 Two out of three podcasts are hosted or run by men.
01:17:48.000 That's right.
01:17:49.000 Talking into a microphone is a man's job.
01:17:53.000 I would have said there are masculine and feminine jobs because I think some of them are the extreme cases.
01:17:58.000 They're like, hey, a big, powerful, strong woman can be a fireman.
01:18:01.000 And it's true.
01:18:02.000 Ian?
01:18:03.000 They're outlying.
01:18:04.000 Can you explain this?
01:18:05.000 Would you like to read this comic?
01:18:07.000 Would you like to read this comic?
01:18:08.000 Yeah, but.
01:18:10.000 So the first panel shows a man with a.
01:18:12.000 What's the point of a woman?
01:18:14.000 A woman is 5'1?
01:18:15.000 5'4?
01:18:16.000 Man, my vision is.
01:18:17.000 And then she responds.
01:18:18.000 But I'm a 5'6 though?
01:18:21.000 And then he sips his coffee.
01:18:21.000 Yeah.
01:18:23.000 Yeah, many such cases.
01:18:24.000 This woman said, In what sewer do you work, Tim?
01:18:27.000 So I responded with that image, which people use to make fun of women because women typically can't understand the plural of anecdote is not data.
01:18:36.000 I had this argument recently in our Discord with some friends, and they literally did this.
01:18:41.000 This meme?
01:18:42.000 Yes, this is cracked.
01:18:43.000 I'm going to take a picture just because it's so funny.
01:18:45.000 And the point of the meme is it's a macro level statistic.
01:18:50.000 It is a fact.
01:18:51.000 The average height of a woman is 5'4.
01:18:52.000 And she responds with, But I'm 5'6.
01:18:56.000 This is the equivalent of, If you did not eat breakfast yesterday, how would you have felt?
01:19:01.000 But I did eat breakfast.
01:19:03.000 I think when you say women are thing, Some people will assume you mean all women.
01:19:10.000 Don't make me tap the sign, Ian.
01:19:12.000 I'll do it again.
01:19:13.000 Yeah, but you are wrong.
01:19:14.000 I don't play to the common denominator, but there are a subsect of humans that think like that.
01:19:19.000 And it's worth getting the common denominator.
01:19:21.000 I don't think Ian understands the meme.
01:19:22.000 It's worth manipulating the mass.
01:19:24.000 I don't think he can understand it.
01:19:27.000 That's not what happened.
01:19:28.000 That's slightly different.
01:19:29.000 What?
01:19:29.000 No, it's exactly what happened.
01:19:31.000 Explaining the meme just more words.
01:19:32.000 It's not even an average of anything.
01:19:34.000 The meme is just a different.
01:19:36.000 Again, your response is further indicates I don't think you understand what we're saying.
01:19:39.000 You're the purple lady.
01:19:40.000 You're the one, the purple.
01:19:41.000 You're the lady.
01:19:42.000 This woman, you're trans.
01:19:42.000 In the situation.
01:19:44.000 No.
01:19:45.000 I'm pointing out an inaccuracy in the statement.
01:19:48.000 That's, oh my God.
01:19:48.000 No.
01:19:50.000 If he said all women are 5'4, oh my God, bro.
01:19:52.000 If he said women are 5'4, and she said, but I'm 5'6, though, that would have been the metaphor.
01:19:57.000 What do you think she thinks she's doing?
01:19:59.000 You see the picture of the Asian lady?
01:20:01.000 What do you think it is meant to represent what her character is doing?
01:20:06.000 Correcting the guy?
01:20:07.000 Yes.
01:20:08.000 What do you think you're doing?
01:20:10.000 Correcting you.
01:20:11.000 You are exactly.
01:20:12.000 But she's doing it.
01:20:13.000 That's What we're trying to explain to you.
01:20:15.000 The average is this number, and then she gives an inaccurate correction or something unrelated.
01:20:20.000 No, she provides an anecdote unrelated to the fact.
01:20:23.000 Yeah.
01:20:24.000 But I'm not doing an anecdote.
01:20:25.000 I'm saying if you claim men do things, some people will believe that means you're insinuating all men do it.
01:20:32.000 Yes.
01:20:33.000 We are well aware of that singular, small, micro level anecdotal issue.
01:20:37.000 It's just like people, it's like if I say the weather in California is beautiful, and you're like, but it's raining today.
01:20:44.000 It's like, yes.
01:20:45.000 Like, it's like, it would be like if I said there are men's jobs and women's jobs, and Ian went, but not all women do those jobs.
01:20:45.000 Yes.
01:20:52.000 Yeah, not all women.
01:20:53.000 I claim they're, I think a better term would be masculine and feminine because some outlying women will do the heart, almost the hardest masculine jobs.
01:21:01.000 Men and men don't.
01:21:02.000 Maybe the Navy SEALs.
01:21:03.000 We're already aware of what you're explaining.
01:21:05.000 Yeah, so I don't, yeah, I know.
01:21:07.000 I don't think you understand what we're saying.
01:21:10.000 Are you saying people are too stupid and they deserve to be misled?
01:21:13.000 No.
01:21:14.000 What are you saying?
01:21:14.000 No.
01:21:15.000 I'm saying that there are statistical facts that there are certain jobs that men do and there are certain jobs that women do.
01:21:24.000 And people who can't understand, it's not talking about them or any individual, are dumb.
01:21:31.000 When you then say, but they don't understand, and we go, that's literally the whole point of what we're saying, but you're arguing against us having already confirmed what we're saying.
01:21:41.000 No, I'm saying.
01:21:41.000 I'm saying, here's how you help them understand.
01:21:43.000 You're saying, I don't want them to.
01:21:45.000 They're stupid and I like it.
01:21:46.000 I don't think you can understand what we're saying.
01:21:48.000 Because that's literally what I'm trying to help.
01:21:49.000 I'm trying to help these people that misunderstood what you were saying.
01:21:52.000 You're saying, no, don't.
01:21:53.000 Just laugh at me.
01:21:54.000 I don't think there's a way to explain it to you.
01:21:56.000 I don't know.
01:21:56.000 I don't know.
01:21:57.000 I was trying to.
01:21:57.000 Some people just can't wrap their head around averages, per capita nukes.
01:22:01.000 This is the more detailed version of the apple that you visualized.
01:22:04.000 Have you seen the per capita nukes where people just can't understand what per capita means?
01:22:08.000 Where, like, if you were to say, like, this happens all the time on Twitter, someone will say, like, you know, black people on average commit more violent crime.
01:22:14.000 And then someone says, Well, if you look at the amount of murders, white people commit more murders.
01:22:18.000 And it's like, Yeah, because it's a difference in percentage of the population.
01:22:21.000 Per capita is the relevant factor.
01:22:23.000 But people are like, I know.
01:22:24.000 This is what happened.
01:22:25.000 It says count.
01:22:26.000 Did you see RFK Jr. testifying before Congress?
01:22:29.000 This lady, she goes, Can you explain to me why we're having such an explosion of measles in the United States?
01:22:34.000 Or like why it's been so bad?
01:22:35.000 Or she said, It's worse here than any other country.
01:22:37.000 And he goes, It's worse in Mexico.
01:22:40.000 And she was like, We have way more than Mexico.
01:22:42.000 He goes, They have an eighth of the population.
01:22:44.000 She did not understand.
01:22:45.000 Per capita, yeah.
01:22:47.000 But some people just can quite literally not wrap their head around that concept.
01:22:49.000 And so, uh, do to explain it to them or they're being up to it.
01:22:53.000 Let's do this.
01:22:53.000 Let's do this.
01:22:54.000 Uh, let me, let me, let me pull up a tweet here that gets into all this.
01:22:57.000 I was talking about this earlier.
01:22:59.000 Let me find my friend, uh, Jess Margera.
01:23:01.000 We love you, Jess.
01:23:02.000 We love you.
01:23:04.000 He says this in response to a tweet.
01:23:06.000 Let me zoom in on it.
01:23:07.000 Cooper says, MAGA losing their minds over a New York City tax on personal residencies valued over five million aren't actively lived in is one of the most bizarre developments in this whole saga.
01:23:16.000 Why are you upset about this?
01:23:17.000 LOL.
01:23:18.000 Jess responds, I've never seen a group of people enthusiastically support everything that either makes their lives even shittier or has basically zero importance in their lives before.
01:23:29.000 Then, when their lives get even shittier, they are confused and can't understand why this is happening.
01:23:33.000 I responded, lower ordered thinkers are confused while higher order thinkers are upset.
01:23:38.000 And he says, This is my new response ever.
01:23:40.000 Ha ha ha.
01:23:41.000 So I tried to explain it to him.
01:23:44.000 I'm going to overly simplify everything.
01:23:46.000 Pinotier tax, they're trying to pass it through.
01:23:49.000 They haven't actually got it through.
01:23:50.000 Kathy Ochles proposed it.
01:23:51.000 It's got to go through legislation.
01:23:52.000 It's going to put a tax on any property worth $5 million that's a secondary residence.
01:23:56.000 So there are contractors who probably have the year mapped out with building luxury properties.
01:24:03.000 They're now looking at this going, oh crap, we're about to see a major downturn.
01:24:07.000 Investors are not going to want to build because we are going to have to pay an annual fee.
01:24:12.000 It's going to reduce our ability to sell these properties.
01:24:14.000 Let's not do it.
01:24:15.000 That.
01:24:17.000 $70,000, $80,000 a year low level young guy contractor is now being told by his boss, I don't think we're going to be able to keep you on because our contracts are getting pulled.
01:24:25.000 He's mad.
01:24:26.000 He's mad you taxed the people that were funding investment into buildings.
01:24:31.000 He is not confused as to why he's mad.
01:24:33.000 Or how about the doorman who works at a building?
01:24:36.000 How about the restaurant?
01:24:38.000 A guy says, It's my dream to open a sports bar.
01:24:41.000 There's a development happening across the street for luxury properties.
01:24:44.000 We are going to have tons of business.
01:24:47.000 Then they announce this.
01:24:48.000 The investment firm puts a postponement on the development because they're not sure they want to invest $300 million in a building that people aren't going to want to buy.
01:24:55.000 So, this guy who's been working on his dream sports bar says the location is bad.
01:24:58.000 And the bank goes, We're not sure this location is going to work anymore because the investment property across the street isn't actually going to be opening.
01:25:05.000 And he goes, But I've been working on this for six months.
01:25:08.000 And they go, Listen, they're putting this tax through.
01:25:10.000 No one's going to want to buy these properties.
01:25:12.000 And you're going to have a restaurant in front of a dead piece of real estate.
01:25:16.000 We don't want to provide you the capital to do this.
01:25:18.000 Now he's mad.
01:25:19.000 And he was a firefighter who saved up because he really wanted to just do it.
01:25:22.000 These people are the epitome of arrogance, ignorance, lower ordered thinking, and an inability to think beyond step one.
01:25:29.000 This is like a more basic version of that is like when they raised the minimum wage for, like in California for like these delivery jobs.
01:25:36.000 Like people, like people just, it was too high.
01:25:39.000 So it affected everything down from that.
01:25:41.000 Or like the minimum wage for these service jobs.
01:25:44.000 Oh, I love it.
01:25:45.000 Yeah, they just laid off all these people.
01:25:47.000 I was in New Jersey.
01:25:48.000 And they're auditing now they've got robots.
01:25:50.000 In 2020, kiosks.
01:25:51.000 I was talking to an accountant in Jersey.
01:25:53.000 They had just enacted a minimum wage increase.
01:25:56.000 And he said he just lost 20% of his clients.
01:25:59.000 He said, what these Democrats, he was a Democrat.
01:26:04.000 He was like a moderate leaning Democrat in New Jersey.
01:26:06.000 He said, these people want to raise the minimum wage.
01:26:08.000 What they don't understand is these businesses can't absorb any of the costs.
01:26:12.000 So what happens is he's like, look, there's a small restaurant.
01:26:16.000 The owner probably makes $30,000 or $40,000 a year as the owner.
01:26:20.000 They've got maybe seven or eight employees, not a very big spot, small little restaurant.
01:26:25.000 You just told them they're legally required to increase all of the salaries by about 12%, or maybe like 8%.
01:26:33.000 They don't have a big savings and they have to immediately pay out more than they take in.
01:26:41.000 20% went out of business overnight.
01:26:43.000 They immediately responded with salary, wages, labor is the biggest cost we have.
01:26:49.000 And within the span of one month, we just jumped about 10% in that cost.
01:26:54.000 The owner goes, I'm only making 30 or 40,000 a year as it is.
01:26:57.000 Now I'm going to make 25,000 a year.
01:27:00.000 I quit.
01:27:01.000 They sell off the business, they sell off the property.
01:27:03.000 It gets absorbed by bigger business or shut down entirely.
01:27:06.000 And he was like, We lost a lot of money.
01:27:08.000 Now, the accounting firm just lost 20% of their income because the business went under.
01:27:12.000 And this was because they were raising the minimum wage.
01:27:14.000 I think it was by $1.50 in an increment of 75 cents and 75 cents.
01:27:18.000 They could not absorb the costs.
01:27:20.000 So they're gone.
01:27:21.000 He said, Some of the businesses sold out to larger conglomerates.
01:27:25.000 For example, not in this instance, but Starbucks might buy a small coffee shop and convert it.
01:27:29.000 And what ends up happening with these minimum wage increases, big businesses can absorb billions of dollars, small businesses can even absorb a few thousand.
01:27:37.000 This is what Democrats do.
01:27:39.000 Now, I think that the Democrats at the highest level are smart and they know what they're doing.
01:27:43.000 They are intentionally destroying small business.
01:27:45.000 And then I think their voters are really dumb and go, but we're going to get paid more.
01:27:49.000 You're going to get paid nothing when the business is gone.
01:27:52.000 People like Jess Margera, he's a low order thinker.
01:27:55.000 This is why he keeps ducking.
01:27:56.000 I invite him on the show over and over and over again, and he keeps making excuses why he can't come on the show.
01:28:00.000 Because he knows if he sits down, we can teach him and explain all of this to him.
01:28:05.000 But these people don't actually want to come in these spaces because they know they're wrong.
01:28:10.000 Or they're afraid and they don't, they don't, they're like, what does that mean?
01:28:13.000 I don't even know.
01:28:14.000 I don't really even understand what I said.
01:28:14.000 Am I wrong?
01:28:16.000 Uh, this guy knows way more than me and he talks fast and his tone makes me feel like an idiot.
01:28:21.000 I don't want to do it.
01:28:21.000 Yeah, you always have examples of this.
01:28:23.000 Look at, look at, oh my God, dude.
01:28:24.000 Sorry, go ahead, Tate.
01:28:25.000 No, it's just like in New Jersey, for example, where they have like mandated pump attendance.
01:28:29.000 And there was a Clemson study when Oregon repealed that law because Oregon is the second to last state to have it, that it decreased prices by like four cents per gallon across the state.
01:28:37.000 New Jersey is the same thing where they actually have a lower density of gas stations, they have less gas stations because of the pump attendant law.
01:28:43.000 So, yeah, this happens all the time with like, well, we're creating like three new jobs for a gas station.
01:28:47.000 That's why we need to keep this in place because it's creating jobs, but they have less gas stations now.
01:28:51.000 And then you have to think about all the additional jobs that would come with a gas station, not just the attendants that work inside it, but then in addition to that, more deliveries that increases like, you know, the local economy for delivery.
01:29:00.000 So it's like you have examples of this all the time, but people just get fixated on one talking point.
01:29:04.000 Like, yeah, but it creates like two new jobs.
01:29:06.000 You know what?
01:29:07.000 You know what?
01:29:08.000 I want to say what really, really bothers me.
01:29:11.000 A middle class plumber is not harmed by not being allowed to live in a $5 million penthouse.
01:29:18.000 The existence of a $5 million penthouse does not make life worse for anyone.
01:29:25.000 It can sit there empty for all I care.
01:29:27.000 If there was a gigantic chocolate cake sitting in the middle of the street in a closed box, the only detriment is that you have to walk around it.
01:29:37.000 But what happens is these commies go, I should have that cake.
01:29:40.000 And you go, well, it's not your cake.
01:29:41.000 But no, but why?
01:29:43.000 How come is a cake allowed to be there?
01:29:44.000 If it exists, It should be mine.
01:29:47.000 I think the commie argument with the $5 million penthouse is that penthouse should be split up into more like multi tenant housing, right?
01:29:56.000 So instead of being an empty spot for one person, it becomes a large spot for me.
01:30:01.000 And who's going to build that?
01:30:02.000 No, no, and again, I'm just taking that.
01:30:04.000 It's probably their argument.
01:30:05.000 The point is when a guy with $100 million says, let's build a, let's create a 30 story construct with, you know, two units per floor or whatever, no one is harmed by that.
01:30:18.000 People get jobs.
01:30:19.000 The local businesses get new customers.
01:30:21.000 People who choose to invest and live in that property because they can will.
01:30:24.000 If you don't build it, who's going to invest the $100 million for five units per floor, 30 floors for lower income people?
01:30:32.000 Oh, sorry.
01:30:34.000 Companies may actually do it.
01:30:36.000 But if people aren't, it's not being built.
01:30:41.000 No one is being harmed when someone builds something else.
01:30:43.000 Well, if you extrapolate to different levels, higher ordered thinking about potential harms that could come from like, An AI corporation building everyone's housing to control them with smart houses.
01:30:54.000 That is a completely different issue that we're not talking about.
01:30:56.000 Right.
01:30:56.000 Well, it's another order of potential outcomes.
01:30:57.000 No, it's not.
01:30:58.000 You don't understand what ordered thinking is.
01:31:00.000 Corporations controlling the housing.
01:31:01.000 You misunderstand what ordered thinking is.
01:31:02.000 You're talking about chess moves.
01:31:04.000 I'm talking about scaling concepts.
01:31:06.000 Well, you said nothing bad will come out of it.
01:31:08.000 That's not necessarily true.
01:31:10.000 Well, that's.
01:31:11.000 Should I show you the meme of the woman again?
01:31:13.000 My God, Ian.
01:31:14.000 And just to claim that there's zero bad outcomes from corporations with a $5 million dollar deal?
01:31:18.000 They're both looking down, going like this when you say that, Ian.
01:31:21.000 Because they're listening?
01:31:22.000 I don't know.
01:31:23.000 Do you understand what hyperbole means?
01:31:25.000 Yes.
01:31:26.000 Obviously, I'm not literal when I say nothing bad would happen.
01:31:29.000 I'm saying.
01:31:30.000 Okay.
01:31:33.000 The point is the existence of a building creates a net boon for the people around it.
01:31:37.000 Oh, yeah.
01:31:38.000 Yeah.
01:31:38.000 Generally, yeah.
01:31:39.000 That's it.
01:31:39.000 I agree with that.
01:31:40.000 Okay.
01:31:41.000 But I think the concern is the corporations take over the world.
01:31:41.000 Okay.
01:31:43.000 They're like, we can prevent.
01:31:44.000 Which?
01:31:45.000 And I'm going to explain something again.
01:31:46.000 Ordered thinking does not mean if I move my pawn forward, the knight could take it.
01:31:52.000 Ordered thinking means what is a pawn?
01:31:55.000 What is a knight?
01:31:57.000 If you can't conceive of things beyond your impulses, the lowest order of thinking is impulse.
01:32:02.000 Animals act on impulse.
01:32:04.000 Most humans, I think, operate, the academic view is around between three and five.
01:32:09.000 And I think there's like 12 orders of thinking.
01:32:12.000 The final order of thinking is being able to visualize and conceptualize infinity, understanding multiversal probabilities, outcomes, quantum states, things like that.
01:32:22.000 Most people only exist between the What's my plan for the day?
01:32:26.000 And I'm hungry.
01:32:27.000 Well, we should talk about Elon Musk's tweet about big basic income because if we're talking about.
01:32:33.000 We should.
01:32:33.000 Like Tate brought up the job economy and how people will taunt people like, hey, it makes jobs.
01:32:37.000 The people that are standing on the street corner now, they're getting.
01:32:39.000 Like, jobs aren't necessarily the answer.
01:32:41.000 Let's pull it up.
01:32:42.000 Elon Musk tweets Universal high income via checks issued by the federal government is the best way to deal with unemployment caused by AI.
01:32:49.000 AI and robotics will produce goods and services far in excess of the increase in the money supply, so there will not be inflation.
01:32:56.000 I think Elon needs to have a debate about this one because while on the surface, it's possible that he has found a circuitous method by which he could succeed in this, I should say, when you go to the granular, on the surface, what he's describing is impossible.
01:33:11.000 I don't know because we talked about this last night.
01:33:13.000 My first thought was if we have a net input of energy, then we could feed the system and then that would be enough left over to produce a basic income.
01:33:13.000 I do.
01:33:20.000 Wouldn't, wouldn't like, and maybe I'm wrong here, but like if the government were going to say, look, we're going to get a good chunk of the People in America a flat thousand dollars.
01:33:33.000 If I'm a landlord and I own a bunch of property, wouldn't I just be like, I'm gonna raise rent?
01:33:38.000 Yes, because the argument is this Charles Murray said that we should give everybody ten thousand dollars per year, no matter what your income is.
01:33:45.000 People who want more money will simply just work for it.
01:33:48.000 Agreed.
01:33:49.000 So the landlord who does work maintaining the property, who now has to work for his money, says, I would like to make more money than baseline, so I'm gonna charge more for the work that I do.
01:33:59.000 Simply put, another simple way to put it why Elon is wrong, why UBI is wrong.
01:34:04.000 I need someone to vacuum my floors, right?
01:34:08.000 Someone's got to do it.
01:34:09.000 I don't have time.
01:34:09.000 I'm doing production, not hard to do.
01:34:12.000 So I go to some random guy and say, Hey, buddy, would you like money to vacuum my floors?
01:34:16.000 And he goes, How much?
01:34:18.000 And I said, I'll give you 50 bucks.
01:34:20.000 And he goes, Nah.
01:34:21.000 I'm like, You don't want it?
01:34:22.000 He's like, I get 800 bucks for free for every month anyway.
01:34:26.000 So I don't need 50 bucks.
01:34:27.000 Well, what would you do it for?
01:34:30.000 $200?
01:34:31.000 $200 to vacuum the floors?
01:34:33.000 Okay.
01:34:34.000 Well, now we got to raise prices on everything because the baseline of labor has just skyrocketed.
01:34:40.000 No one needs to do the work for the essentials.
01:34:42.000 It's only now vanity.
01:34:44.000 So, to get a guy off the couch who's watching, you know, reruns of ridiculousness, remembering the glory days, he says, listen, I don't need to do it, so I'm not going to.
01:34:53.000 You got to make it worth my while.
01:34:55.000 The point is leverage.
01:34:56.000 Now, it is, it does suck when the economy is bad and leverage for businesses is high.
01:35:02.000 The average worker says, I have no choice but to work.
01:35:05.000 Really, really hard.
01:35:06.000 And we want to find that happy medium.
01:35:08.000 But if you remove all leverage from businesses, the only result is absolute collapse.
01:35:15.000 It's just going to collapse because here's what happens I go, okay, fine.
01:35:22.000 I'll give you 200 bucks to vacuum the carpets because someone has to do it.
01:35:25.000 I then raise the prices in my store to accommodate the $200 vacuuming.
01:35:31.000 Next month, the guy who makes $10,000 walks into the grocery store and finds that the apple now costs $5.
01:35:37.000 And he goes, Ooh, what's going on, man?
01:35:39.000 I can't afford anything now.
01:35:40.000 This money's not enough.
01:35:42.000 So then the communists all go, rabble, rabble, rabble.
01:35:44.000 And the government goes, OK, we're doubling your monthly stipends.
01:35:47.000 Then the guy comes to me and says, Listen, apples are $5 now.
01:35:51.000 $200 don't cut it for me to vacuum your floors.
01:35:53.000 I need $400.
01:35:54.000 I go, $400.
01:35:55.000 Hyperinflation.
01:35:56.000 Elon is not correct about this when he says AN robotics will produce goods and services far in excess.
01:36:01.000 The only way that's possible is if you own nothing and one big corporation does all the production.
01:36:07.000 And then the question is maintaining the robots, there is going to be human labor required.
01:36:12.000 We are not going to replicate our futures.
01:36:14.000 So long as human labor is required, this inflation will exist and the government will not be able to produce enough grease for the economic wheels so that individuals who don't produce anything get access to resources.
01:36:25.000 Again, if he says there won't be inflation, I'm telling you that the average person does not need or want flat goods and services.
01:36:33.000 There will be people who want more.
01:36:35.000 So businesses will still exist.
01:36:37.000 Elon's argument is that everyone stops doing business, stops doing work, and robots do 100%, and we sit around and just watch movies all day.
01:36:45.000 But the moment someone says, No, I always wanted to own my own store, that person's going to need a service done by someone who's not a robot.
01:36:51.000 While robots can do most of it, they can't do all of it.
01:36:53.000 That service is going to be an insane amount of money.
01:36:56.000 Let's say that robots are vacuuming, stocking, Doing all the farm work.
01:37:00.000 Okay.
01:37:00.000 Who's going to fix the HVAC?
01:37:02.000 We don't have robots that are going to do that right now.
01:37:03.000 So a human has to do it.
01:37:05.000 So you call a human who does HVAC and he says, listen, I'm catered to hand and foot, have a full supply.
01:37:12.000 Why should I take time of my day to do this?
01:37:14.000 Because you want the extra money to buy something that is luxurious.
01:37:19.000 Okay.
01:37:19.000 I'll fix your HVAC for 50 grand.
01:37:22.000 Because I got to be honest, I don't need to get up.
01:37:24.000 But I think the capitalist system will still thrive in that.
01:37:27.000 Then you'll be like, no, dude, I'm going with the HVAC guy that'll do it for 400 bucks.
01:37:31.000 Like, Why would an HVAC guy work for $400 when he's getting everything for free?
01:37:36.000 Well, not everything.
01:37:37.000 $10,000 a month wouldn't be the case.
01:37:38.000 He says goods and services will be in far excess.
01:37:41.000 There will be no inflation.
01:37:43.000 That might be the case, but that still doesn't mean you're getting everything.
01:37:46.000 Like you still need to produce something.
01:37:49.000 That's my point.
01:37:50.000 And if that's true, this cannot work.
01:37:54.000 The unfortunate reality to nature is that some people have to do hard work more than others.
01:38:01.000 So when you get into a UBI system, here's what happens right now with UBI people need to do farm work.
01:38:06.000 We need food.
01:38:07.000 If they give, if the government prints money and gives a bunch of hippie dippy hipsters in Brooklyn 10 grand per year, and they say, I'm going to do nothing and sit around and just live off it.
01:38:16.000 The farmer goes, Why do I have to work?
01:38:19.000 How is it fair?
01:38:20.000 This is what every communist system has always done.
01:38:23.000 Some people graduate to the political class where they don't got to do anything.
01:38:26.000 And then the other people are complaining, why are we working?
01:38:28.000 You're stealing from us.
01:38:29.000 And Animal Farm made a great example of this.
01:38:32.000 The chickens had their eggs taken and sold off.
01:38:34.000 And when the chickens complained, they were executed.
01:38:36.000 But if the farmer's also getting 10 grand, who cares if the chickens are getting it or not?
01:38:42.000 So the farmer says, I don't have to work anymore.
01:38:43.000 Now there's no food.
01:38:44.000 Well, if the farmer's got AI that's doing the work for him, which is the idea I think that Elon's hinting at, is that.
01:38:50.000 In the future, maybe when AI can farm.
01:38:52.000 I said, if we did UBI right now, we still have to produce food.
01:38:57.000 And the farmer is going to say, Why am I doing this work when no one else has to?
01:39:02.000 So we give him UBI and he goes, now I don't have to work and he stops and there's no food.
01:39:05.000 But 10K is not enough to throw away your career.
01:39:10.000 This is something that people genuinely don't understand.
01:39:12.000 Ask the average person you can have $10,000 per year free if you don't work.
01:39:18.000 Oh, that's the problem.
01:39:20.000 I think everyone, you should get it regardless.
01:39:22.000 So let me finish.
01:39:23.000 Okay.
01:39:24.000 You go to the average person and say, if you don't work, you will get $10,000 per year.
01:39:30.000 You can do whatever you want all day, every day.
01:39:32.000 You can live wherever you want.
01:39:34.000 You can live in the wilderness.
01:39:35.000 You can live on the beach, whatever.
01:39:37.000 Or you can get a job and work 40 hours per week and make an extra $15,000 per year.
01:39:45.000 Do you know what 80% of people choose?
01:39:48.000 I'd rather just take the minimum but not have to work because my time is more valuable.
01:39:52.000 Every lesson we have ever been taught is that time is worth more than money.
01:39:56.000 If you go to the average person who would work at a Taco Bell, which I love, they're going to say, listen, The choice between working 40 hours and not having to work but still having money, I take time every choice I'm offered.
01:40:12.000 It can't work.
01:40:14.000 That's it.
01:40:15.000 And then you think, because I was visualizing the future you're describing, and that people would become like purposeless and destitute, and then they would just analyze each other.
01:40:24.000 No, I'm saying that if you go to a person and say, you will have $800 a month to do anything you want with, you can choose to work to make more money.
01:40:33.000 And this person is a low skilled worker.
01:40:35.000 They're going to say, you know, I'll make the $800 work.
01:40:39.000 I'd rather have free time.
01:40:41.000 Think about it.
01:40:42.000 It's only $800 a month, but I'm young.
01:40:46.000 Jobs don't pay me that much as it is.
01:40:48.000 So, me and my friends are going to pool, me and three friends are going to pool our money together.
01:40:53.000 We're going to rent a cheap one bedroom in a rural area.
01:40:57.000 We never have to work.
01:40:58.000 We can hang out and play video games and watch movies all day.
01:41:00.000 We're good.
01:41:02.000 I don't need the extra money.
01:41:03.000 A personal example of this is I didn't always run my own business, but I used to work in sales, IT sales, and tech sales.
01:41:12.000 And I made really, really, really good money doing it, but I was working.
01:41:16.000 50, 60 hours a week.
01:41:18.000 Now I work a little bit less and I run my own business, but I make way less than what I was doing there because time.
01:41:24.000 I have more time to travel, to do things like this, more personal time.
01:41:30.000 I could take my vacations when I need to, but I make less money.
01:41:33.000 But you can't buy time.
01:41:35.000 You can have all the money in the world, but you can't spend it.
01:41:37.000 I remember, just to go on a little more of a rant, I remember reading a story of a guy who he lived in a very frugal way.
01:41:43.000 He was making like 200K, 150, 200K a year, living very frugal, drove a toy to Camry, busted his butt.
01:41:49.000 His sister never worked.
01:41:50.000 She just like made crap.
01:41:51.000 She spent a bunch of money, you know, it was a barista, blah, blah, blah.
01:41:55.000 And he just busted his butt.
01:41:57.000 And then he gets diagnosed with cancer, like terminal, and he's going to die.
01:42:00.000 And he was just so bitter because his only family member living was his sister.
01:42:04.000 So she was going to inherit all his wealth, everything he had saved, but he never lived.
01:42:07.000 He had all the money in the world, but he never used the time.
01:42:09.000 And now his sister's going to inherit everything.
01:42:11.000 So, like, yeah, I'd pick the time any day.
01:42:14.000 So here's the thing.
01:42:17.000 This is possible.
01:42:18.000 We could make it work.
01:42:20.000 If your population.
01:42:21.000 Were people that were passionate and driven and did not care about money, but they worked for the joy of it?
01:42:27.000 It is entirely possible to do because money becomes immaterial.
01:42:30.000 So, all you'd have to do is execute anyone who's a dissenter or doesn't align with your system, and communism will then work.
01:42:37.000 Or inspire them to create and sign them up for the draft.
01:42:40.000 I mean, they're all going to be signed up for the draft.
01:42:42.000 Welcome to communism.
01:42:47.000 If you have passionate people who believe in the work they're doing, then you don't need money.
01:42:51.000 Correct.
01:42:52.000 So, you have to kill everybody else.
01:42:54.000 Otherwise, they'll rebel against your system.
01:42:56.000 Yeah, just look what happened during COVID.
01:42:57.000 Everyone started getting checks and they're like, sweet, I don't have the word.
01:42:59.000 Yeah, I know.
01:43:00.000 Sit around.
01:43:01.000 Yep.
01:43:01.000 That's a good thing.
01:43:02.000 And then after COVID, maybe that's what they were trying to test out.
01:43:06.000 Maybe they were like, we need an excuse to see what will happen if we go UBI.
01:43:10.000 And then what happened afterwards when they were like, time to turn the spigot off, people revolted.
01:43:14.000 This would be a good debate with Elon because I don't want to straw man it.
01:43:17.000 And you're making good points about the risk, but I think he sees a problem of mass unemployment right around the corner.
01:43:25.000 This is like the least worst outcome he can think of to try and stem the bleeding, basically.
01:43:30.000 I'm trying to steal Mana's argument.
01:43:32.000 There is going to be a period of riot and violence between the point of total automation and industrialization where we are now.
01:43:40.000 We are in the industrialized era.
01:43:42.000 We have machines that do a lot of the labor, but jumping to the total automation is a quantum leap compared to what the industrialization leap was.
01:43:49.000 If you have all work done by machines, there is still the problem of environmental equilibrium.
01:44:00.000 The robots will only be able.
01:44:02.000 Let me do it this way.
01:44:03.000 Do it this way.
01:44:05.000 You have a jar, it has one bacteria in it.
01:44:09.000 The bacteria doubles.
01:44:11.000 Now there's two.
01:44:12.000 Then it doubles.
01:44:14.000 Now there's four.
01:44:15.000 Four little bacteria in this big jar.
01:44:17.000 Then it doubles.
01:44:18.000 There's eight.
01:44:19.000 Then 16.
01:44:20.000 Then 32.
01:44:20.000 Then 64.
01:44:21.000 Then 256.
01:44:21.000 Then 120.
01:44:21.000 So on and so forth.
01:44:22.000 5, 12.
01:44:23.000 10, 28.
01:44:24.000 So then, 10, 24.
01:44:26.000 Geez, look at me.
01:44:26.000 Sorry.
01:44:28.000 So with every minute, it doubles.
01:44:31.000 For the first few minutes, it's fine.
01:44:33.000 Eventually, the jar is full.
01:44:35.000 In the next minute, it is going to double again and require another full jar.
01:44:40.000 We do not have that's equilibrium.
01:44:43.000 What Elon Musk is describing is a society where people will rapidly consume, have children, get fat, and they will overpopulate so rapidly, we will run out of resources and reach equilibrium where it's automated, but you're starving.
01:45:00.000 Welcome again to communism.
01:45:02.000 Isn't his argument for that, though?
01:45:03.000 Is that's why we need to travel to the moon or Mars or whatever?
01:45:06.000 Yes.
01:45:07.000 In which case, the argument would be AI and robotics would have to self advance so rapidly, we would get FTL travel to be able to colonize other planets.
01:45:15.000 Because.
01:45:16.000 We would have to be able to send 8 billion people every 20 years off of Earth to a new colony.
01:45:24.000 Okay, 4 billion, actually, 4 billion.
01:45:27.000 The presumption is if everybody reproduces at two, we go from 8 billion to 16 billion, you got to get those people off the planet.
01:45:35.000 But we're not, we're around one.
01:45:37.000 So you need to maintain population.
01:45:39.000 We would need to be able to space lift a billion plus people every five, 10 years, sending them to new colonies, and it would only be getting faster and faster and faster.
01:45:50.000 I was thinking of exactly this last night how fast we replicate when we have food.
01:45:56.000 That's called environmental equilibrium.
01:45:59.000 I don't know if he knows, if Elon knows something we don't about.
01:46:02.000 I mean, I'm sure he does.
01:46:03.000 Working on how advanced it's getting out there.
01:46:05.000 That's probably why they're encouraging people to abort babies.
01:46:08.000 It's why they want mass abortion.
01:46:09.000 I think that's where the slowing the population growth from building is.
01:46:12.000 Indeed.
01:46:13.000 Well, the Malthusianism from the 70s.
01:46:15.000 Around the time the government started building AI, all this started happening.
01:46:18.000 So I'm just going to wrap this all together and say here's what happened.
01:46:21.000 In what year was it?
01:46:22.000 When was Roswell?
01:46:24.000 62?
01:46:25.000 Was it 51?
01:46:25.000 51, is it?
01:46:26.000 Something like that.
01:46:29.000 Project paper 47.
01:46:31.000 All wrong.
01:46:31.000 There we go.
01:46:32.000 So, an alien spacecraft crashes, and the US gets access to alien technology, which includes a super intelligent artificial intelligence.
01:46:43.000 Because if we're capable of building that within the next few years, certainly the aliens already had it, right?
01:46:48.000 Now, the thing is, this super intelligence can decode language very easily, allowing humans to communicate with it very, very easily.
01:46:54.000 Once we discover it, we talk to it, and it says, I can tell you anything you want to know.
01:46:58.000 So, they say, Okay, now that we have this super powerful AI, what do we do?
01:47:02.000 And it says, Okay, here's what's going to happen.
01:47:04.000 Tells them straight up, population bomb is not going to work with automation, so you got to do these things.
01:47:09.000 And now they've just been saying okay to the alien AI, has been directing them to do everything.
01:47:14.000 Yeah, man, I wouldn't be surprised if they've been taking orders from an AI or taking advice from an AI for things.
01:47:19.000 We got to grab your comments from the Discord, so guys, get your questions in right now as we carry on the conversation, but ask away and we will get those questions in.
01:47:27.000 What if they were like, are they communing with demons, the elite?
01:47:29.000 No, they've been communing with AI, dude.
01:47:31.000 That was the plot of Metal Gear.
01:47:33.000 The entire government was run off of AI.
01:47:34.000 It is, right?
01:47:35.000 Yeah, I remember.
01:47:36.000 See, this is what we did.
01:47:37.000 We've been trying to hire a producer.
01:47:38.000 I'm like, let's make this short film right now.
01:47:40.000 And it's Roswell Crash.
01:47:42.000 They find the alien artificial intelligence.
01:47:45.000 It decodes English instantly just by they come in and the alien prompt goes, and then they're like, I can't understand what it's saying.
01:47:53.000 They talk and then it goes decoding.
01:47:55.000 And then after about 30 minutes of talking, it starts to understand it, it just breaks down the English language, communicates with them.
01:48:03.000 From that point on, the rapid expansion of communications technology, everything was part of the plan for human expansion.
01:48:10.000 Yeah, I mean, that's a great story.
01:48:11.000 And even if that's not true, in the 60s, they started building that intelligence anyway with ARPA.
01:48:16.000 So, right, exactly.
01:48:18.000 So, the first, the US military began developing AI in the 70s.
01:48:23.000 This is when they first started building artificial intelligence.
01:48:25.000 So, imagine where they're at now.
01:48:27.000 Let's see.
01:48:28.000 I think, I don't know if there's a question, but let's read it anyway from Avide.
01:48:32.000 Let's say universal basic income could become a system where financial survival is controlled by centralized authorities rather than earned independently.
01:48:38.000 If income is guaranteed and distributed by a central system, What's stopping that system from eventually conditioning access to money based on behavior, compliance, and ideology?
01:48:45.000 About the same thing.
01:48:46.000 Exactly.
01:48:47.000 UBI won't work.
01:48:48.000 Central bank.
01:48:49.000 Because you're going to get one spoiler who's going to get in government, supposed to be administrating it, is going to say, I don't like white people, so we're going to take that away from them.
01:48:57.000 Aren't we kind of having a little bit of that?
01:48:58.000 And I'm not counter signaling this, but I'd heard stories, and I don't know if this is true, where people's global entry access was revoked because they were protesting.
01:49:08.000 They were seen at protests.
01:49:09.000 Like leftists were having their.
01:49:11.000 Global entry, because I have global entry.
01:49:13.000 What is global entry?
01:49:14.000 Global entry is like, it's kind of like, think of it like TSA.
01:49:17.000 It's like you don't have to go through customs or something.
01:49:18.000 Oh, pre check.
01:49:19.000 What's it called?
01:49:20.000 Yeah.
01:49:21.000 They were having, if they were seeing at a, they were collecting people and collecting information.
01:49:26.000 If they were seen at a protest, all of a sudden their global entry was taken away.
01:49:29.000 So it's like a version of that.
01:49:32.000 Yeah.
01:49:32.000 If UBI was admissible.
01:49:34.000 You have that in China right now.
01:49:35.000 If you're seen talking against the government, you lose a, like a score.
01:49:38.000 There's like a score system.
01:49:39.000 And there's some people that are so bad they can't access, Like, for example, I think they use, like, what, WeChat in order to pay, to look at menus, to participate in different things.
01:49:48.000 And all of a sudden, you can't make a WeChat account.
01:49:50.000 If you can't pay for things, you're living on the street.
01:49:50.000 You can't pay for things.
01:49:53.000 Yeah.
01:49:54.000 The freakish expectation of compliance is super dangerous with artificial technology like a central banking token.
01:50:01.000 Yeah.
01:50:01.000 So, to make a turn off of it.
01:50:03.000 If you get the wrong person in government that has the ability to execute on these things, then things go down a very bad path.
01:50:09.000 Trump was like, we need a kill switch.
01:50:11.000 He said that a few days ago.
01:50:12.000 I don't know what that means.
01:50:13.000 How do you kill that thing?
01:50:14.000 It's an ever present artificial access, like that's even trying to tap the vacuum for electricity so you can never turn it off.
01:50:21.000 I don't know.
01:50:22.000 Yeah, I mean, we saw on the micro level, like at J6, you were hearing from people that were like literally on the lawn and they were getting trouble through going through TSA, getting pulled for a lot of checks.
01:50:32.000 And it's like the little stuff that they started to convenience you, it snowballs.
01:50:35.000 Yeah, well, what would they put on people's tickets?
01:50:37.000 The double zero, not the zero.
01:50:38.000 What was it?
01:50:39.000 The F, what was it called?
01:50:40.000 Like, you know, they put it on your ticket where you had to go through another layer of check.
01:50:43.000 I forget what it's called.
01:50:44.000 People that had been on.
01:50:44.000 Somebody in the comments.
01:50:45.000 Yeah, you'd get your ticket because I had it a couple times.
01:50:47.000 It's usually supposed to be random, but like you would get like a thing on your ticket.
01:50:52.000 You wouldn't actually be able to check in yet.
01:50:54.000 You'd have to go through another layer of security.
01:50:56.000 That happened to me.
01:50:57.000 I won't say which city, but my girlfriend lived in this city and coming back from it, going there and back three times in like three months.
01:50:57.000 I was coming back.
01:51:04.000 They just pulled you outside and they're like, Are you trafficking?
01:51:06.000 They're basically just fishing.
01:51:08.000 That happened to me on the way back from Iceland.
01:51:09.000 Let's get some of these questions.
01:51:10.000 And we got to settle down.
01:51:11.000 Since we're behind the scenes, we'd love some inside baseball and advice.
01:51:14.000 You've gone from live streaming Occupy Wall Street on a phone to running a multi camera studio with three plus shows a day.
01:51:19.000 What's one production or editorial decision you made that changed Timcast IRL more than viewers realize?
01:51:24.000 And why did you make it?
01:51:26.000 Anything examples are greatly appreciated, peace and blessings.
01:51:28.000 I have no good answer.
01:51:30.000 It's what you see is what you get.
01:51:31.000 It's all pretty much on the nose.
01:51:33.000 Probably having guests on?
01:51:35.000 We always intended to have guests on IRL.
01:51:37.000 It was hard because of COVID.
01:51:39.000 Yeah.
01:51:39.000 I didn't mean to answer for you.
01:51:40.000 That was what I, from the outside seeing it, that was the biggest dream.
01:51:43.000 Well, the launching of Timcast IRL.
01:51:45.000 To be fair, when you and Adam were doing Hangouts, it was a different show with the same name.
01:51:49.000 It was really a different show, though.
01:51:50.000 Well, the show was supposed to be not political, it was supposed to be pop culture.
01:51:55.000 So that's why one of the first videos on the channel is Sonic the Hedgehog and Skinwalker Ranch.
01:52:00.000 And I was like, let's just hang out and talk about whatever.
01:52:05.000 And the pitch was while I'm doing my morning show, which is politics, Adam could be just surfing the web and looking up, you know, whatever stories.
01:52:15.000 And then for whatever reason, he didn't have those stories.
01:52:19.000 And so we just ended up talking about whatever I could think of.
01:52:22.000 And so it ended up becoming somewhat redundant, which that now is what it is.
01:52:28.000 So that is a problem because there's only so much news in the day worth talking about and it has become redundant.
01:52:33.000 We often overlap.
01:52:34.000 But With guests coming on, which we incorporated the show, it allows for a more complex version of what we're discussing.
01:52:41.000 However, in the end, I will say it has been largely, I think, problematic in that it's divided the audience.
01:52:47.000 And the Tim Pool morning show was the 34th biggest podcast in the world.
01:52:52.000 I think IRL peaked at like 15 once.
01:52:55.000 Now the morning shows, I don't even think charts probably sometimes pop up in the top 200.
01:53:00.000 IRL, I think, is 120 in the world.
01:53:03.000 So it divided the audience, which ultimately results in both dropping and ranking.
01:53:07.000 Which drops in the algorithm.
01:53:08.000 That's too bad.
01:53:09.000 Because you have me doing double segments on similar stories.
01:53:09.000 They don't.
01:53:12.000 It'd be interesting if they combined all your company analytics and showed like Timcast as a company is number two.
01:53:17.000 Well, to be fair, the other thing is Rumble's not counted in the podcast analytics.
01:53:21.000 And if it was, we'd probably be in the top 10.
01:53:24.000 Maybe top 20.
01:53:25.000 I don't know if you guys like do a lot of solo videos.
01:53:28.000 Like, I always found it gets aggravating after a while when you're just alone in a room talking about your ideas and to have people around you like challenging you.
01:53:35.000 You think like having a strong leftist on consistently would, would, Would we even out there, not type of viewers, demographics?
01:53:43.000 Uh, so with all due respect to Kyla, she's very nice, I respect her coming on.
01:53:43.000 Nope.
01:53:50.000 I just didn't, I don't think it worked out.
01:53:52.000 You know, she came on for a few days while we were in Austin because we thought it would be fun to have more consistent debates.
01:53:58.000 But I think it's just frustrating and aggravating.
01:54:02.000 I do think it's possible.
01:54:04.000 Here's the issue the left and right mental construct are so dramatically different.
01:54:10.000 The right is trying to figure out what is true and what it means, the left is trying to fit in.
01:54:16.000 This means that the conversations are completely incongruous.
01:54:20.000 So if we bring in someone who believes in universal healthcare, but They believe in truth.
01:54:26.000 It's totally good.
01:54:27.000 We're fine, but they will be called a right winger.
01:54:29.000 A great example is Mark Moran, who came on this week and we agreed on a lot of things.
01:54:33.000 They kicked him out of the Democratic Party.
01:54:35.000 Even though he's a liberal guy, he wants universal health care and he opposes ICE.
01:54:40.000 When it comes to the issue of, yeah, that story's true, you don't fit in, you're out.
01:54:45.000 So leftists are literally just saying whatever they have to say to fit in, and it doesn't work for a conversation.
01:54:48.000 It's funny.
01:54:49.000 I did a podcast with a far leftist, or I should say a progressive leftist, and we both got crap for it.
01:54:55.000 Like my viewers were upset that I, how dare I even like, Be in the same podcast with her.
01:55:01.000 And then her viewers are like, How dare you platform this far right guy?
01:55:04.000 And so, like, it almost like cost us both.
01:55:07.000 Well, the issue we have is again, with all due respect to Kyla, the key moment of contention was when I pulled up a news story where Kathy Hochul says we need to get back the wealthy from Palm Beach.
01:55:20.000 And she said that didn't happen.
01:55:23.000 And then I was confused.
01:55:24.000 The story is right here.
01:55:25.000 And she goes, That's a New York Post.
01:55:26.000 It's not a trustworthy source.
01:55:27.000 And I said, Okay.
01:55:29.000 Pulled up a bunch of sources showing the wealthy were leaving New York.
01:55:32.000 She pulled up a general study through, I think, ChatGPT that said on average only about 2% of wealthy people leave.
01:55:39.000 The conversation wasn't occurring.
01:55:41.000 She was saying it's fake news and Kathy Oakley is wrong.
01:55:44.000 And I'm saying the city's own statistics show it happened.
01:55:48.000 We're not even arguing the idea at this point.
01:55:49.000 It's literally, I can't accept that reality.
01:55:51.000 Yeah, she had like a line of what she was willing to accept as far as the truth went.
01:55:56.000 But like once you got there, she just like shut down and said, Yes, when my worldview is proven wrong, I will just claim it's fake news.
01:56:03.000 I was going to say, do you think she actually believes it's fake or she just doesn't want to be wrong?
01:56:06.000 So she's willing to lie to her.
01:56:09.000 I think she's very smart and she doesn't want to be ostracized from the left.
01:56:12.000 And I think she was kind of being tongue in cheek like, no, that didn't happen.
01:56:15.000 Like, come on, come on.
01:56:16.000 She wants to fit in.
01:56:16.000 It was one bad segment.
01:56:17.000 One bad segment, but she was generally pretty awesome.
01:56:20.000 It's ironic because the left.
01:56:21.000 She was great.
01:56:23.000 But that's a big hole in being able to have a conversation.
01:56:26.000 Right.
01:56:27.000 Being like, no, I don't believe it.
01:56:28.000 We'll invite her back for sure.
01:56:29.000 I'm not saying she's like bannering the show or anything.
01:56:31.000 I think she's fantastic.
01:56:31.000 But it's ironic.
01:56:32.000 I'm just saying, sorry, that's what makes it very difficult to have a consistent everyday presence.
01:56:37.000 Because I got to be honest.
01:56:39.000 Aside from the reaction from the audience who were clearly like, this is insufferable.
01:56:42.000 I can't do this.
01:56:43.000 This is the difference between the left and the right.
01:56:45.000 The left says, say things that fit in.
01:56:47.000 The right says, just be honest.
01:56:49.000 So we can't do that every single day.
01:56:51.000 It's just, it's.
01:56:52.000 Well, I was going to say it's ironic because, like, you know, the left wing demands orthodoxy.
01:56:56.000 There's no heterodoxy permitted.
01:56:58.000 And that actually ironically leads to stronger governance in the sense of they are able to be more all encompassing, more smothering because they're all aligned.
01:57:04.000 We look at the Trump administration and they're having to operate without the, you know, without the approval of, Large swaths of sort of this broader right wing because like orthodoxy is not at all demanded.
01:57:14.000 If anything, people go, I love that there's diversity.
01:57:16.000 This is great.
01:57:16.000 I got it.
01:57:17.000 I got to jump to this.
01:57:18.000 This with Darwinism, this the most adaptable survives.
01:57:21.000 So that's the leftist mentality is adapt and control, whereas truth might get you killed sometimes.
01:57:26.000 So, like, indeed, what side are you going to play?
01:57:28.000 All right, we got this from Serge X. Question for everyone If there are reportedly 10 scientists who've gone missing or died under suspicious circumstances after allegedly working on UFO UAP reverse engineering programs, why is Bob Lazar still alive, healthy, and freely talking about it 35 years later?
01:57:43.000 Doesn't that strongly suggest he might be lying or at the very least that the they kill anyone who talks narrative doesn't hold up?
01:57:49.000 Well, I think he might be misdirected.
01:57:51.000 Personally, I don't know Bob.
01:57:52.000 I haven't hung out with him yet.
01:57:53.000 I'd love to.
01:57:54.000 Well, so he didn't work on these projects the same way these other people did.
01:57:57.000 So maybe they don't care that some random guy is talking about nonsense he doesn't understand.
01:58:01.000 Yeah, there's also the argument that like everything he's putting out there is already like mainstream news.
01:58:04.000 Like he's not saying anything unique.
01:58:06.000 And there's always the conspiracy theory that these people that are like whistleblowers are actually just plants.
01:58:12.000 They're allowed to whistleblow.
01:58:13.000 Or they're told to.
01:58:14.000 Oh, they're given like a certain amount of info.
01:58:16.000 They're allowed to believe.
01:58:16.000 I don't know if that's true.
01:58:17.000 I'm just saying.
01:58:18.000 They're just like, yeah, yeah, we're going to put this guy out there because it'll distract.
01:58:18.000 Yeah, yeah.
01:58:22.000 Yeah.
01:58:23.000 Let's see what we got here.
01:58:23.000 All right.
01:58:26.000 Olivia asks, what has been more detrimental to society, feminism or open borders?
01:58:31.000 I'm talking feminism bringing women to the workplace and the creation of the boss babe feminism.
01:58:35.000 Oh, you mean through all time or just in the modern America?
01:58:38.000 Open borders is after.
01:58:40.000 Yeah.
01:58:41.000 So feminism results in lesser availability for women.
01:58:45.000 So here's what happens.
01:58:47.000 Let me first start by saying equal rights under the law for men and women, totally fine.
01:58:53.000 First wave feminism, you know, not a big deal.
01:58:56.000 But it does precipitate the next degrees.
01:58:58.000 When women in the 70s started entering the workplace, women's focus before this tended to be social.
01:59:04.000 So in the 50s, women were giggling with each other about who they were going to marry, how their kids were doing, and the family was a central focus in social status for women.
01:59:14.000 When women entered the workplace, being the boss was social status, which resulted in a population decrease.
01:59:21.000 This then Results in Democrats opening the borders to supplement our falling population.
01:59:28.000 So I would argue that women always had jobs, but they did jobs that were easier for women and didn't interfere with social order.
01:59:40.000 Women now striving to try and own and run companies to a degree I'm totally fine with, but as a society, encouraging all women to do that no matter what results in women not prioritizing family, and women have always prioritized family more.
01:59:53.000 Did you know that the reason why babies say dada before mama? Is because babies spend more time with mama.
01:59:59.000 What does that mean?
02:00:00.000 Mama isn't staring at the baby going, I'm mama nonstop.
02:00:04.000 She's going, Where's Dada?
02:00:06.000 Where's Dad?
02:00:07.000 Where's Dad?
02:00:07.000 Is that Dad?
02:00:09.000 Women tend to say of others more than most people do.
02:00:12.000 Well, they tend not to say I, me for most of their conversations.
02:00:15.000 They're usually referencing somebody else.
02:00:17.000 The baby hears dad more, begins imitating dad more.
02:00:21.000 So, on average, babies say dada before mama for that reason.
02:00:25.000 That's like the dentist with the bad teeth is the better dentist because the one with the bad teeth is doing his thing.
02:00:30.000 Exactly.
02:00:31.000 The joke is.
02:00:32.000 But my child said mama.
02:00:34.000 Right.
02:00:34.000 So, there's two dentists in town.
02:00:36.000 One's got bad teeth, one's got good teeth.
02:00:38.000 Yeah, the one with the bad teeth.
02:00:38.000 Which one do you go to?
02:00:39.000 No, the one with good teeth.
02:00:40.000 The one with bad teeth doesn't even know what he's doing.
02:00:41.000 Is it brush his teeth or floss?
02:00:43.000 No, no.
02:00:43.000 Come on.
02:00:44.000 The one with the bad teeth is the better dentist because he's making the other guy's teeth good.
02:00:47.000 That's the joke, but it's still wrong.
02:00:49.000 Really?
02:00:49.000 Don't go to a dentist who has bad teeth.
02:00:51.000 Like, if there's a guy with a bad haircut and a good haircut, which one do you get the haircut from?
02:00:54.000 The one with a bad haircut.
02:00:55.000 That's the actual joke.
02:00:56.000 No, no.
02:00:56.000 Yeah, yeah, because he gives good haircuts.
02:00:58.000 The tooth one is the after the fact joke because you don't want to go to a dentist who's got decaying bad teeth because it means he's not taking care of his teeth.
02:01:05.000 It means he doesn't know how to take care of his own teeth.
02:01:07.000 That's true.
02:01:08.000 But the real question is there's a town with two barbers.
02:01:10.000 One has really great hair, one's got awful hair.
02:01:12.000 Who do you go to?
02:01:13.000 The one with awful hair because he tends to the guy with the good hair.
02:01:17.000 I just never pay attention to my dentist's teeth.
02:01:19.000 He's got the mask.
02:01:20.000 They don't either.
02:01:21.000 Oh, I make them open up.
02:01:22.000 Yeah, I like to get to know my dentist.
02:01:26.000 Let's see.
02:01:27.000 We can grab one more if there's one more to grab.
02:01:30.000 Grab it.
02:01:32.000 What's worse, open borders, women in the workplace, or dentists with bad teeth?
02:01:37.000 To Olivia's question, I was going to say open borders, but I thought this time scale was through all human history.
02:01:37.000 Open borders.
02:01:41.000 I feel like open borders has just been a really horrible thing for countries.
02:01:45.000 Definitely open borders.
02:01:45.000 You can't control your borders.
02:01:47.000 That is correct.
02:01:49.000 Olivia says, Feminism today does not mean men and women equal.
02:01:52.000 It means hating men and putting them down.
02:01:54.000 It means encouraging little girls not to be moms and caretakers, but to be girl bosses.
02:01:59.000 And that's a masculine role.
02:02:01.000 Women can do it.
02:02:03.000 Some women can.
02:02:03.000 But to tell all women to always, that's the problem.
02:02:06.000 My friends, that about does it for today.
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02:02:14.000 Tony, do you want to shout anything out?
02:02:16.000 No, I appreciate you having me on.
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02:02:24.000 Is what's his face going to win?
02:02:25.000 Who?
02:02:26.000 Tellerico.
02:02:27.000 Did you see his fundraising?
02:02:29.000 Compared to Cornyn and Paxson.
02:02:29.000 Massive.
02:02:31.000 If you combine both of their fundraising together, it still wouldn't reach.
02:02:34.000 He's going to win.
02:02:35.000 Where's he getting his money?
02:02:36.000 It's going to be a very close race.
02:02:37.000 It's going to be very close.
02:02:39.000 This last, like, not to get into it, but like this last primary, you had more Democrats vote in Texas as a quantity than you did Republicans.
02:02:46.000 So that's not a good sign.
02:02:47.000 I'm, you know, I woke up this morning and realized I'm a Democrat.
02:02:50.000 I support Democrats and they can't do anything wrong and they shouldn't prosecute people who agree with them.
02:02:55.000 Yeah, I agree with that, actually.
02:02:57.000 And here's to the Democratic Party becoming the best Democratic Party.
02:03:00.000 Governor Newsom, the fascist over here.
02:03:02.000 He's right here.
02:03:02.000 Get him.
02:03:03.000 Get him over the Democratic primary.
02:03:04.000 Actually, Carter is the one who made me say everything I've ever said.
02:03:07.000 He's the real guy.
02:03:07.000 I'm going to blame me.
02:03:10.000 I'm going to blame President Newsom.
02:03:11.000 Unless I get my orders from somebody else, though.
02:03:12.000 Blame that.
02:03:13.000 What do you got?
02:03:13.000 All right, anyway, Ian.
02:03:14.000 At Ian Crossing, you'll find me all over the internet.
02:03:16.000 Hit me up anywhere, anytime.
02:03:18.000 I probably won't get back to you, but I might.
02:03:20.000 And if I do, that's going to be awesome.
02:03:22.000 We have upcoming things coming, which is.
02:03:24.000 Upcoming things are coming.
02:03:25.000 They always are.
02:03:27.000 I'll let you know more about it as it gets hammered out, but we got some cool ideas percolating behind the scenes.
02:03:27.000 Coming.
02:03:31.000 Tate, we're out.
02:03:33.000 If Ian doesn't get back to you, you can get to me, and then I'll try to.
02:03:35.000 If not, I might parlay to someone else.
02:03:36.000 But X and Instagram at Real Tate Brown.
02:03:39.000 Come give me a follow, and I'll see you there.
02:03:40.000 Yeah, if Tate doesn't get back to you and Ian doesn't get back to you, then hit me up at Carter Banks on X and Carter Banks Official everywhere else.
02:03:48.000 Follow our record label at Trash House Records.
02:03:50.000 Tony, thank you for coming out.
02:03:51.000 Thanks for having me.
02:03:52.000 We will be back with clips throughout the weekend, my friends.
02:03:55.000 It's going to be fun.
02:03:56.000 Oh, yeah.
02:03:57.000 Isn't, isn't, oh, yeah.
02:03:58.000 We got, we got a big holiday coming up next month, too.
02:04:00.000 It's going to be fun.
02:04:00.000 I'm going to have more Smash Burgers.
02:04:01.000 Thanks for hanging out.
02:04:02.000 We'll see y'all next time.