Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - June 24, 2025


THE WAR IS OVER, Trump Announces CEASEFIRE In Israel Iran War | Timcast IRL


Episode Stats

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2 hours and 23 minutes

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197.8444

Word Count

28,483

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2,701

Misogynist Sentences

50

Hate Speech Sentences

125


Summary

Donald Trump announces a ceasefire between the US, Israel, and Iran to take effect in a matter of hours. This coming just after Iran launched missiles at a U.S. base, nobody was injured. But should this prove to hold, if Donald Trump was able to pull this off, the man has a tremendous victory.


Transcript

00:02:10.000 Donald Trump has announced a ceasefire between the U.S., Israel, and Iran to take effect in a matter of hours.
00:02:16.000 Now, initially, when he posted this on truth, there was some conflicting information, but it does seem as the dust settles, numerous outlets are now reporting that Iranian officials have confirmed they have a ceasefire between the U.S. and Israel.
00:02:29.000 This coming just after Iran launched missiles at a U.S. base, nobody was injured.
00:02:36.000 But should this prove to hold, if Donald Trump was able to pull this off, I will just say the man has a tremendous victory right now.
00:02:46.000 So let us all just hope and pray the ceasefire sticks, the shooting stops, and this is the effective end of the war, to which Trump is calling the 12-day war.
00:02:57.000 If, however, one of these factions escalates conflict and begins shooting, it will be a disaster.
00:03:03.000 But I am not here to earn points.
00:03:07.000 I am not here to try and be proven right.
00:03:09.000 I am simply here to say, let us hope Trump is victorious in this.
00:03:14.000 I personally not a fan of the strikes in Iran.
00:03:17.000 But if the ceasefire is now and this does not escalate, we are in a good spot.
00:03:23.000 Let's all hope for that.
00:03:24.000 I know there are a lot of bad people out there hoping that Trump fails, but for the sake of the world, let's put that aside right now and say, let's hope this sticks.
00:03:31.000 So we're going to talk about that.
00:03:32.000 We've got a bunch of other news.
00:03:33.000 Trump just won a massive Supreme Court ruling, allowing him to pick back up on deportations.
00:03:38.000 And ladies and gentlemen, I predicted this.
00:03:40.000 MSNBC is now defending Donald Trump because war sells, baby.
00:03:44.000 And when you're a president and you engage in warfare, all the pundit class are going to clap and cheer.
00:03:49.000 You know why?
00:03:50.000 Well, partly because they're deep state cronies, but also because their ratings go up.
00:03:55.000 And they love to see their cost per view or their CPM skyrocketing.
00:04:00.000 So Trump's always doing a good job when you're blowing stuff up.
00:04:03.000 It looks like this may be working out pretty well.
00:04:06.000 And Trump is going to be receiving a lot of praise if this proves to be the end of the war, meaning he was able to take out Iran's nuclear program or at least seriously hinder it without a dramatic escalation.
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00:08:40.000 Let's get into it.
00:08:41.000 Here's the story from Politico.
00:08:43.000 Trump announces Israel-Iran ceasefire.
00:08:46.000 The announcement comes after the U.S. waited into the 12-day conflict over the weekend.
00:08:50.000 They say Trump in a post on Truth Social said the ceasefire will take effect just after midnight on the east coast of the United States, with the war slated to officially end 12 hours later.
00:08:59.000 Quote, this is a war that could have gone on for years and destroyed the entire Middle East, but it didn't and never will.
00:09:05.000 Neither Israel nor Iran immediately confirmed Trump's announcement that they had agreed to a ceasefire.
00:09:10.000 Both countries have been indirectly fighting since the October 7th attacks against Israel by Tehran-backed militant groups.
00:09:18.000 I'm sorry, Tehran-backed Palestinian militant groups in Hamas.
00:09:20.000 And they have traded direct fire intermittently since 2024.
00:09:25.000 But after Israel attacked Iranian nuclear facilities earlier this month, the two longtime Middle East adversaries have launched volleys of drones and missiles against each other.
00:09:33.000 Now, it is being confirmed by Reuters that a senior official said that they have agreed to a ceasefire.
00:09:41.000 We have this from Trey Yingst, a Fox News diplomat briefed on the ceasefire, talks to Fox News, saying President Trump spoke with Qatar's emir and informed him the U.S. got Israel to agree to a ceasefire with Iran.
00:09:52.000 The president asked Qatar to help persuade Iran to do the same.
00:09:55.000 Following that, Vice President Vance coordinated with Qatar's prime minister on the details.
00:09:59.000 This effort proved successful.
00:10:01.000 And following discussions with the Qatari PM, the Iranians agreed.
00:10:05.000 The deal was coordinated at the highest level by the president and vice president and the Qatari Emir and Prime Minister directly.
00:10:11.000 Despite having been attacked just hours earlier, the Qatari set aside their grievances and prioritized regional security to get the deal done.
00:10:18.000 So just before this announcement, actually a couple hours before, videos emerged of Iran launching ballistic missiles at Qatar targeting the U.S. base.
00:10:30.000 Should this prove to hold, I just got to say Trump, he's hit a grand slam with this one.
00:10:36.000 If the war officially ends, he can say that it's a war powers resolution.
00:10:42.000 He's allowed to take military action.
00:10:44.000 No further military action is needed.
00:10:46.000 We have a ceasefire.
00:10:47.000 If within the next 12 hours the fighting has stopped, Trump's got a tremendous historic victory.
00:10:54.000 Libertarians are going to be most affected, I think.
00:10:57.000 They're going to be very, very upset that this happened and that the sky didn't fall.
00:11:02.000 It didn't expand into a wider war.
00:11:05.000 It was just a strike.
00:11:06.000 And Iran was like, well, we're not really in a position to do anything about this, are we?
00:11:11.000 And took the actual self-preservation route.
00:11:15.000 Why are they mad?
00:11:16.000 Because they wanted to see this disintegrate?
00:11:19.000 Well, because they were all predicting that there was going to be a massive upheaval in the Middle East.
00:11:23.000 It'll turn into a broader war.
00:11:25.000 It'll turn into World War III, blah, blah, blah.
00:11:27.000 But you look around and it speaks to actually the realistic conditions of the international rivals the U.S. has.
00:11:35.000 Russia doesn't have the ability to take on the U.S. They can't take on the Ukraine, right?
00:11:41.000 Like they can't handle Ukraine.
00:11:43.000 They're not going to be able to take on the U.S. So they're not going to really step in to help Iran.
00:11:47.000 Same thing with China.
00:11:48.000 China has a significant incentive to keep the status quo, particularly in the straight ohms, because they get like, you know, half their oil or whatever.
00:11:57.000 They had to do tons of business there.
00:11:59.000 So China was just like, no, you're not shutting down the straight oh removes.
00:12:03.000 They had no friends at all and no one was there to support them.
00:12:07.000 So I think that that speaks to this.
00:12:08.000 Trump's joked for peace.
00:12:09.000 Yeah.
00:12:10.000 There's peace.
00:12:10.000 I do leave it to Trump to start already branding a war.
00:12:14.000 Like he's already named it.
00:12:15.000 He loves war.
00:12:17.000 There's a lot in this guy.
00:12:18.000 It wasn't a war.
00:12:19.000 And a ceasefire doesn't mean a peace agreement.
00:12:21.000 Sometimes when you're in a war, you'll call a ceasefire for a short period and then you'll go back to fighting.
00:12:25.000 So it doesn't mean, but there never was a war to call a peace agreement for anyway.
00:12:29.000 They fired, what, like 13 or 14 missiles into Qatar, and all but one of them were shot down.
00:12:34.000 One of the missiles was errant, so they just let it go.
00:12:37.000 Yeah.
00:12:38.000 Where's that going on?
00:12:38.000 I personally don't trust anything coming out of this administration at the moment.
00:12:42.000 They just sneak attacked Iran.
00:12:43.000 I imagine they're going to do it again.
00:12:45.000 But, you know, like you said, their face is on the ground.
00:12:48.000 They're being stomped on.
00:12:49.000 Their bones are breaking.
00:12:50.000 They have no choice but to.
00:12:51.000 How many people live in Iran, Ian?
00:12:52.000 What's that?
00:12:52.000 How many people live in Iran?
00:12:53.000 I think there's 92 million, but I haven't done the research.
00:12:56.000 I haven't done the research.
00:12:58.000 I respect what you are saying, Ian.
00:13:00.000 The Trump administration, this is where I'm cautious.
00:13:02.000 They have made a lot of comments about negotiating peace, negotiating good faith, while they were actually orchestrating a sneak attack on Iran.
00:13:09.000 Now, if it weren't for the subsequent reporting from numerous individuals involved that there was a ceasefire, initially I was skeptical.
00:13:15.000 It's like, I don't believe it.
00:13:16.000 Trump announces they got a ceasefire, and then if Iran keeps attacking, it's Iran that becomes the aggressor.
00:13:22.000 However, it does look like Trump is trying to avoid escalation in the region and just wanted to take out as much of their nuclear enrichment as possible.
00:13:32.000 I don't know that they did, like if you want to argue efficacy, there's a lot of people saying 900 pounds of uranium is missing.
00:13:40.000 What did they actually do?
00:13:41.000 It's like, well, you know, they did what they could in terms of that agenda item.
00:13:47.000 The argument here is that Trump has, under the War Powers Act, it's an old bill.
00:13:51.000 If there's an imminent threat, he can order a military strike.
00:13:54.000 Within 60 days, he must stop and ask Congress for approval to continue.
00:14:00.000 If this does end, I mean, Trump, he did it.
00:14:03.000 I will say this to everybody because they were like, Tim, you were saying it was going to escalate.
00:14:06.000 I have no problem being wrong.
00:14:07.000 I'm not going to sit here and be like, here's why Trump is actually going to screw up.
00:14:11.000 No, no, I'm stoked.
00:14:13.000 Holy crap, I'd love to be wrong.
00:14:15.000 I was worried AF that this was going to escalate.
00:14:18.000 If Trump really did just pull it off, I apologize for doubting the man.
00:14:22.000 I know that parents, mothers in particular, are thrilled that Iran will not have nuclear weapons.
00:14:28.000 So, you know, moms for the most part, I would say, probably don't understand Middle East policy and what's going on over there, but they have concerns as parents.
00:14:35.000 And one of those things is a nuclear Iran.
00:14:37.000 I mean, that's a very big possibility.
00:14:40.000 And so I didn't hear a lot of pushback from the mom community when we went in and took out those nuclear facilities.
00:14:47.000 What concerns me, though, is this idea here here, Lend-Lease, the Lend-Lease program.
00:14:52.000 the Americans were given the British weapons before World War II, but they couldn't sell them because they would have been violating, you know, some, some shit.
00:15:00.000 The Lend-Lease was a program between the Americans and the British where the Americans were giving the, they were giving it to a lot of people, but the British, particularly, they're giving them weapons.
00:15:07.000 And then they were like, you just pay us back later.
00:15:09.000 So someone could give the Iranians a nuclear weapon and be like, just pay us later.
00:15:13.000 Like, they don't have to make it.
00:15:14.000 They can get one.
00:15:15.000 They can receive one also.
00:15:16.000 So we need to strengthen our diplomatic ties with the Chinese, the Russians, and the Indians right now, particularly, because they don't want a nuclear Iran.
00:15:23.000 Nobody wants it, I don't think, except for these Moolahs.
00:15:25.000 If nobody wants a nuclear Iran, who's going to give them the nuclear bomb?
00:15:28.000 I know.
00:15:29.000 Maybe because Putin won't always be in power.
00:15:31.000 And if some crazy guy gets it after Putin.
00:15:33.000 The president of Russia, I think, said he was going to help them and that happened.
00:15:36.000 Or that other countries were rushing in.
00:15:39.000 North Korea, of course, but he's also on good terms with Trump.
00:15:41.000 So I think that I look, I want, I was going to say regime change.
00:15:46.000 How can I say this so that I find theocracy even more dangerous than monarchy?
00:15:51.000 I want regime change.
00:15:52.000 I do.
00:15:53.000 In Iran.
00:15:53.000 I just don't want to be involved in whatever that means.
00:15:55.000 And I want it to be peaceful.
00:15:56.000 I would love for it to be problematic.
00:15:58.000 They set it down.
00:15:59.000 Another organization picks it up if possible.
00:16:05.000 It looks like that's what they're about to do.
00:16:07.000 And they're just like install some sort of like go targeted assassinations on Iran.
00:16:14.000 That would mean the war is not over.
00:16:15.000 Where has there ever been a peaceful regime change except in a democratically elected in a somewhat democratic country, but in a place like Iran?
00:16:27.000 In Iran, in 79, it was relatively peaceful.
00:16:29.000 It only lasted about six months, the revolution, maybe four months on six months.
00:16:34.000 Didn't a tyrant take over?
00:16:35.000 I mean, isn't that what got us into this situation?
00:16:37.000 But it wasn't really bloody.
00:16:38.000 The king at the time didn't fight back, and everyone was like, why aren't you stopping the rebellion?
00:16:43.000 And he was just like sitting in his castle, not fighting it.
00:16:46.000 And so they deposed him.
00:16:47.000 And it was relatively peaceful as revolutions for his country that size.
00:16:52.000 And it could happen again.
00:16:53.000 And what I think you're saying is that, I mean, they can change, but I don't want to be involved in it.
00:16:57.000 Like all the coups we've done around, whether it's Guatemala or Iran again, you know, I don't want that to happen.
00:17:03.000 They can do whatever they want.
00:17:04.000 The thing is, the Shah's son, who's in America right now, is the most likely candidate to be installed as the king of Iran.
00:17:10.000 And we would definitely, because he's in America, we would somehow be involved with putting him up in the position.
00:17:17.000 The issue with regime change nowadays compared to even 20 or 30 years ago is the internet and the speed of communications.
00:17:23.000 So a couple hundred years ago, you wanted regime change?
00:17:25.000 You literally need only stand in a building.
00:17:28.000 You'd be standing in the building, sitting on the throne, being like, we're in charge now.
00:17:31.000 And if the king was in exile, then people didn't listen.
00:17:34.000 So you take a look at even 100 years ago, how these revolutions took place, and it was just like we've stormed the building and a thousand people surrounded it.
00:17:42.000 And now the entire country of millions of people has a new form of government.
00:17:46.000 These days, there's digital communications.
00:17:50.000 And you saw that in France in World War II, because the French, Paris was taken over.
00:17:55.000 500 years ago, entire country of France would have served the Germans, but half of France split off because Charles de Gaulle went into exile in England and was able to kind of lead this resistance via telephone.
00:18:05.000 And now we've got the internet.
00:18:06.000 Yeah.
00:18:07.000 So if, say, a group of people were to like storm the Capitol, like during the counting of the electoral vote, and they stood in that building, literally nothing would happen.
00:18:18.000 The president doesn't change.
00:18:19.000 Nobody loses or gains control.
00:18:21.000 Occupying the building and controlling the force there changes nothing.
00:18:24.000 That's why I always wondered about the term insurrection.
00:18:27.000 It never really made sense to me on what happened that day.
00:18:30.000 High stakes, king of the hill.
00:18:31.000 That's all it was.
00:18:32.000 That's why insurrection is the wrong term for what happened on January 6th.
00:18:35.000 I would say insurrection in Portland, as it is applied legally, in that local laws are not being followed, that is a legal insurrection for which the president can invoke the Insurrection Act and call on the National Guard to go shut down those riots.
00:18:51.000 Yeah, the police led the J-Sixers in.
00:18:54.000 I saw that video of them actually giving them a nice tour, unlike in Portland and other places where they took over streets and set up camp ceilings and some entrances had a different dynamic, right?
00:19:04.000 Those people were Antifa and red hats.
00:19:06.000 I want to say for the record, since there's 100 million people listening or whatever it is, I do want regime change in Iran in a peaceful manner in some sort.
00:19:15.000 And I'm very happy with this announcement of a ceasefire.
00:19:18.000 Although I said I don't believe anything coming out of their mouths, I'm very happy to hear it, regardless.
00:19:22.000 I think it's a very good diplomatic move.
00:19:25.000 I know that Putin at first was like, I think we're going to help Iran.
00:19:28.000 We might help them get a nuke.
00:19:29.000 At least this is what I was reading these reports.
00:19:30.000 And then later he's like, actually, we're just diplomatic.
00:19:33.000 It wasn't Medvedev.
00:19:34.000 Oh, yeah, it was.
00:19:34.000 Medvedev.
00:19:36.000 And then they kind of walked it back and they're like, we're going to help diplomatically.
00:19:39.000 They just wanted to solve the problem.
00:19:41.000 They don't want to blow stuff up.
00:19:43.000 And bringing it back to moms real quick, I don't really care all that much about the nukes, honestly.
00:19:47.000 I care more about sending our children to war.
00:19:52.000 The possibility of this when it was possibly escalating, and it still could, and sending kids to war.
00:19:59.000 Yeah, look, I have two sons, 24 and 17, so they're both ideal candidates.
00:20:04.000 Yeah, if there was some kind of draft, but I still, personally, I can't speak for my, you know, all 130,000 Moms for Liberty members at the moment, but personally, I still support what happened.
00:20:13.000 I, you know, that photo, it's not up right now, but the photo of President Trump walking out with Marco Rubio behind him, and you know what I'm talking about was really, well, that's part of it, but you see Pete Hugseth even behind that.
00:20:25.000 You see all four or five of them standing there.
00:20:27.000 I just, I kept going back to that photo and just looking at these men that I feel like we've gotten to know over the last few years.
00:20:34.000 These are good men that I know of.
00:20:36.000 You know, I've met their spouses.
00:20:37.000 I feel like I have some familiarity with them.
00:20:40.000 And to see the looks on their faces, they knew what decisions they were making.
00:20:44.000 They knew there was some risk, even if there was calculated and risk and they felt like it was in the right direction.
00:20:48.000 And I just am, you know, I'm thankful for them.
00:20:51.000 I'm thankful that they are making the hard choices and leading the way.
00:20:53.000 Well, it is the suburban mom that won Trump the election.
00:20:57.000 we can always point to a different demographic and say they're the ones.
00:21:01.000 But what we know is that Trump was trailing among suburban moms in 2020, and then they shifted rightwards in 2024.
00:21:08.000 I think the gender issue played a large role in that.
00:21:11.000 If you're going to give me a second to talk about it, I'd be glad to talk about what we did.
00:21:14.000 And we did it for swing states, Georgia, Arizona, North Carolina, and Wisconsin.
00:21:19.000 We focused in on about 200,000, 250,000 women that hadn't really voted in four years in those states, and we went and targeted them for six to seven months.
00:21:29.000 Hyper-local issues.
00:21:31.000 Mr. Jones, in your local school down the streets wearing a dress in the fifth grade class, did you know?
00:21:36.000 Make sure you vote up and down the ballot against people that are supporting this.
00:21:40.000 Make sure you know that the Biden administration rewrote Title IX to allow this in that school.
00:21:45.000 We sent them texts.
00:21:46.000 We handwrote postcards, thousands and thousands of handwritten postcards, knocking doors, all those things.
00:21:51.000 Long story short, in those four states, we turned out an average of 93% of those women, about 200,025,000 in each state.
00:21:59.000 That's over 800,000 women that wouldn't have traditionally voted in an election turned out to vote.
00:22:05.000 I think angry moms definitely helped win.
00:22:07.000 I mean, you saw everything that happened during lockdowns with kids.
00:22:10.000 Oh, they were married.
00:22:10.000 Foreclosures and all that stuff.
00:22:12.000 Where were you in the past few years?
00:22:14.000 Were you always a Trump supporter?
00:22:16.000 I have voted for Trump traditionally, but I'll admit in 2016, I walked into that voting booth not going to vote for him.
00:22:25.000 You have to leave the show now.
00:22:26.000 I'm sorry.
00:22:27.000 I'm sorry.
00:22:29.000 I didn't even vote that year.
00:22:30.000 Oh, then what do you got to say about me?
00:22:32.000 I stood there and I was going to go third party.
00:22:35.000 And this is a little bit of a crazy story.
00:22:37.000 The only other time I voted third party was the Bush Gore election.
00:22:41.000 And I sat up all night like, I'm the reason.
00:22:44.000 I'm the reason this is happening because I didn't vote for Bush.
00:22:46.000 It's my fault.
00:22:47.000 I personally felt like, oh, you know, we went through the hanging Chads because of me.
00:22:51.000 And so I told myself that night I would never do third party.
00:22:54.000 I kept thinking about that and I wasn't going to vote for Hillary Clinton.
00:22:56.000 And so I ended up voting for him.
00:22:58.000 But it's been an interesting road.
00:23:00.000 I wasn't always the loyalist that I am now.
00:23:03.000 Do you find that, I don't know, moms view him as icky?
00:23:08.000 Less and less.
00:23:10.000 Wow.
00:23:10.000 Yeah.
00:23:10.000 Because he's chilled out.
00:23:12.000 Why do you think that is?
00:23:14.000 Look, he campaigned on several things that had to do with Moms for Liberty issues, the overreach of government, what they, you know, they saw what the Biden administration did to parents that were just standing up trying to protect their children.
00:23:29.000 He stood on that issue.
00:23:30.000 He stood on the issue of keeping boys out of women's sports.
00:23:33.000 He understands what's going on in education, and he has listened to us on those.
00:23:36.000 And he came right out the gate as soon as he took office and executive order after executive order after executive.
00:23:42.000 I mean, going in.
00:23:44.000 Look, we are just women.
00:23:45.000 We're strong, independent women.
00:23:47.000 But to see someone stand up for the issues that has the power to do something about it and to see him stand there and do that on our behalf to protect our children, he's got our support hands down.
00:23:57.000 Women are coming over left and right because of that.
00:24:00.000 Do you think Melania is a huge influence on that?
00:24:02.000 Because I'm just starting to think maybe she's like really morally pushing, like helping him.
00:24:07.000 Of course.
00:24:08.000 Of course, behind every man, there is a good woman.
00:24:11.000 I wish she was more vocal in the world.
00:24:13.000 I've thought that since the beginning.
00:24:14.000 I mean, she's doing what she can.
00:24:15.000 I think she's a little self-conscious because English is her second language or not her first language.
00:24:20.000 At least I think she might have said stuff like that in her early days.
00:24:23.000 Her fourth language.
00:24:23.000 Yeah, she speaks like five languages.
00:24:25.000 Genius.
00:24:26.000 A genius woman.
00:24:27.000 I'm sure she's self-conscious that she speaks five languages fluently.
00:24:30.000 Oh, my gosh.
00:24:31.000 She's amazing is what I'm trying to say.
00:24:32.000 And I agree.
00:24:33.000 Tim, you were about to ask a question, too.
00:24:35.000 No, no.
00:24:35.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.
00:24:36.000 Melania is kind of an unsung hero over the last decade in a lot of ways.
00:24:40.000 She's very grounded.
00:24:42.000 What happened to Democrats?
00:24:45.000 Did you lost their freaking mind?
00:24:47.000 No, I've never been a Democrat, but I will say a good portion of our organization are former Democrats.
00:24:52.000 We even have some Democrats, which, you know, the left and the newspaper would never, or the news, mainstream media would never tell you that.
00:24:59.000 I think I was telling you the other day that we were in a, I was in a meeting in Ohio with my chapter leaders from the state.
00:25:05.000 Half of the room had voted for Obama.
00:25:06.000 And so they're coming over because they don't like what's happening to their team.
00:25:09.000 What do they tell you?
00:25:11.000 What do they tell you when they come in and they're like, oh, you know, I didn't, because you know they're apprehensive.
00:25:15.000 You know there's a lot of stigma that goes along with it.
00:25:17.000 What do they tell you when they come in?
00:25:19.000 Well, the first one said it.
00:25:20.000 I can't remember how the conversation started, but the first one said it when we were in a group setting and the other started poking fun at her.
00:25:25.000 And then one said to the other, like, you can't laugh at me.
00:25:27.000 You voted for Obama and then you voted for Obama.
00:25:29.000 And before you knew it, I was like, okay, raise your hands if you voted for Obama.
00:25:33.000 And it was half the room.
00:25:34.000 And, you know, a lot of them just said he seemed hopeful.
00:25:37.000 You know, they didn't follow politics.
00:25:39.000 They didn't vote in local elections, no idea who their local elected leaders are.
00:25:44.000 But they looked at Obama as someone who was offering hope and change, just like he said.
00:25:48.000 And so it was an easy cast for them.
00:25:50.000 And again, this is more of an anecdotal question or a question than just getting your personal opinion.
00:25:53.000 Do you think women are voting?
00:25:54.000 Because like you said, they felt hope when they saw Obama.
00:25:56.000 Do you think that the women are voting less with their emotions and more with their brain, their thinking?
00:26:01.000 Or is it that Trump is appealing more to their emotions?
00:26:05.000 Trump is appealing to their emotions.
00:26:06.000 He's standing up for their children.
00:26:08.000 They're seeing what's happening in education in America.
00:26:10.000 They know, and I will say on a good part of Moms for Liberty pushing the information out there that only a third of kids in America can read on grade level.
00:26:17.000 I think that's starting to become public knowledge.
00:26:19.000 A third.
00:26:20.000 That's terrible for national security.
00:26:22.000 That's terrible for the future of these children.
00:26:24.000 They're screwed.
00:26:25.000 Economically, it is terrible.
00:26:26.000 Yeah.
00:26:27.000 Not just that, but there's these viral posts where teachers are saying like their kids can't read.
00:26:31.000 Their kids can't type.
00:26:33.000 The kids are completely disinterested in whatever they're doing.
00:26:35.000 All they want to do is get on TikTok and just keep swiping.
00:26:38.000 Like attention span has gone to zero and they'll see two seconds of something and they're bored, bored, bored.
00:26:45.000 And so when it comes to writing, they just use Chat GPT, submit it, and then say inshrug.
00:26:51.000 I wonder if that takes into account the homeschooling spike.
00:26:54.000 Oh, of course.
00:26:55.000 Church recently, we celebrate all the kids who graduated high school.
00:26:58.000 30 kids, all of them homeschooled.
00:27:00.000 No one went to public school.
00:27:01.000 And these kids talk like better than me.
00:27:04.000 They're smarter than me.
00:27:05.000 And they had a great schooling.
00:27:06.000 So I wonder if we're watching the public schools totally fail, but the homeschooling is really taking off.
00:27:11.000 Especially since COVID, when the schools shut down and teachers union thought, I'm not going to open a school until you defund the police and all of their nonsense.
00:27:18.000 I mean, parents had no choice but to start homeschooling or their kids were going to fall behind dramatically.
00:27:22.000 Of course, you see those numbers growing.
00:27:25.000 And like, you think that I think the public school system is still working off the antiquated 20th century model, pretending like AI doesn't exist.
00:27:31.000 And then the kids go home and they use AI to finish their homework.
00:27:34.000 And the teachers are like, that's frying their brains.
00:27:37.000 But the moms of the kids are sitting there with them, like, what, did you use ChatGPT again?
00:27:42.000 Let me just tell you the scary thing about this is that we got the Switch 2, you know, the Nintendo Switch 2. And you can get Nintendo and GameCube and SSAS.
00:27:52.000 So I went online and I downloaded the app so you can play their library of Nintendo games.
00:27:58.000 They don't have that many, but there's a lot.
00:28:00.000 And I was playing the game Crystalis.
00:28:02.000 Love that game, dude.
00:28:03.000 Absolutely.
00:28:03.000 Love that game.
00:28:04.000 So good.
00:28:05.000 Now, let me tell you why this matters.
00:28:07.000 Because I used ChatGPT because I'm like stock in the beginning.
00:28:12.000 What do I do?
00:28:12.000 So I typed in ChatGPT.
00:28:14.000 How do I, you know, do this thing?
00:28:17.000 Total example.
00:28:18.000 What do I do with the charistal plant?
00:28:20.000 It fabricated this huge walkthrough for the game that included characters that didn't exist in the game.
00:28:28.000 And I knew, I've played the game 800 times when I was a kid and I was playing it again, but I can't remember what to do with this thing.
00:28:34.000 And I'm like, this is completely fabricated and made up.
00:28:39.000 Completely.
00:28:40.000 And it's only because I knew certain, it was like, go south of this one town.
00:28:45.000 I'm like, there's no south of that town.
00:28:47.000 So these kids are going to be in school and they're going to be like, write me, you know, an essay on Christopher Columbus discovering America and it's going to put fake names in.
00:28:56.000 Or there was that, as a total aside, that lawyer, I think this happened more than once, who had ChatGPT draft his whole legal argument and it created fake case citation precedent.
00:29:07.000 So a few things there.
00:29:08.000 One, the Christopher Columbus thing you just touched on as a passing story, but worse, it could even say what's actually in the textbooks right now, which say Christopher Columbus is a war criminal and worse.
00:29:18.000 And so I bet you ChatGPT is going to pull up all the anti-American rhetoric and feed it in, just as the textbooks are now.
00:29:25.000 And number two, it's not just the kids with this AI.
00:29:28.000 So my 17-year-old, they have a policy in my school district, the kids can't use AI for papers.
00:29:32.000 And at least my son says he doesn't use AI because he thinks the teachers put it in the AI checker and he'll get caught.
00:29:38.000 Not saying he doesn't ever do it, but he says he doesn't.
00:29:41.000 But he got really upset last year because his paper was graded with AI.
00:29:45.000 And he came home so mad and he said, I can't use AI to write it.
00:29:50.000 Why does she get to use AI to grade it?
00:29:52.000 And I was like, well, how do you really know?
00:29:54.000 He said, Mom, look at this.
00:29:55.000 There's no feedback on my writing.
00:29:56.000 It's literally these captioned things from AI.
00:29:59.000 I can tell.
00:29:59.000 And then I threw it in the AI checker and it told me it was AI.
00:30:02.000 And then what if the AI is wrong?
00:30:04.000 Yeah, it's teaching him wrong.
00:30:05.000 And the teacher has no idea if he's writing or if he's not, what he needs to help with or anything.
00:30:10.000 It's so messed up.
00:30:11.000 And you know where it gets worse?
00:30:14.000 When these kids use AI to write an essay and then post the essay somewhere online in some way the AI can use it, the AI writing gets re-ingested into its own training model.
00:30:25.000 It's like those pictures, they're like, reprint this picture a thousand times.
00:30:28.000 You ever see them and they slowly morph into this demon?
00:30:32.000 Same thing with you.
00:30:35.000 I was going to ask, oh, what's the AI checker that you mentioned?
00:30:38.000 I have no idea.
00:30:38.000 I can ask my 17-year-old and let you know.
00:30:42.000 Sounds like a good piece of technology for the coming days.
00:30:45.000 I think we're totally screwed.
00:30:46.000 I don't think I can trust the AI checker.
00:30:48.000 Protect itself.
00:30:50.000 I was talking to this guy, pro skateboarder.
00:30:53.000 You'd think he wouldn't be a prize to a lot of stuff, but he asked me if I'd ever read about the fourth turning.
00:30:58.000 And I was like, oh boy, how much time do you got?
00:31:01.000 And so we talked a bit about it.
00:31:03.000 And this is just a guy who skates.
00:31:05.000 He's not a big political guy or anything like that.
00:31:07.000 People are starting to learn.
00:31:09.000 Are you familiar with the fourth turning?
00:31:10.000 I am not.
00:31:11.000 Strawshow generational theory is that every four generations you have some kind of crisis period and there's a there's a bunch of ways you can break it down i'll over overly simplify it so 80 years ago we had the world wars 80 years before that the civil war 80 years before that the revolution there was conflict 80 years before that it keeps going the general idea is that after the world war the people who fought and survived are just brutalized and so they're carved out of stone they're not bothered they don't care for things like wokeness and they're just like sit down shut up and do the work you know being having
00:31:41.000 a job is not the worst thing you've ever done with so they raise kids we're 80 years after world war ii aren't right so they raise kids off the lessons of world war ii and those kids uh you know they start working and they have a general idea then they have kids and those kids yeah they heard stories from their grandparents but they don't really know and then finally the fourth generation is a bunch of lazy entitled wackaloons that are soft as cookie dough causing instability in politics which results in some kind of chaotic moment
00:32:11.000 well you know one of the things that has kept me sane is listening to my father talk about the horrors of vietnam growing up he would constantly he served in the navy during vietnam on a peacekeeping tour you know in germany but just to to and to watch just to see the horror to know because when you get generations detached from it it's very easy to treat like a video game and that's where we are now where kids need safe i mean we're talking about in the past 10 years colleges universities creating safe spaces for
00:32:41.000 lectures where if someone was triggered by something a professor was saying they could go into a fluffy room with stuffed animals and pastel colors playing nursery rhymes i'm not exaggerating this guy alex homel you guys know this guy he he bare climbs with his bare fingers honold alex honold he's done joe rogan show he he climbs mountains with his bare fingers like hangs free climbing yeah yeah and he's like the best skyscrapers no no he's like the best free climber on earth not that i know of and he said everyone should when was the last time you've been really afraid like really afraid
00:33:12.000 really afraid for your life because people should feel like that otherwise they're going to start to be afraid of stupid shit yeah that's what kind of aligns with what you're saying that's where we're currently at and it's not so much about being afraid of dumb things it's about entitlement that you know what a lot of these these young people were experiencing is the worst thing actually i'll put it this way my baby was crying today and we're trying to console her and she had a burp it's literally the worst thing she has ever experienced in her life she's four months yeah and so
00:33:41.000 her her distress is legitimate but needs to be tempered i mean if you've never felt pain before you're like what's happening so what happens to these these millennials largely is they've had zero hardship snow plow parents they've never the it's you get a trophy no matter what, even if you don't win.
00:33:59.000 No one's a bully.
00:33:59.000 No one, everyone's got to hold hands and sing.
00:34:01.000 And then you enter the real world and you walk down the street and someone screams at you, dumbass, and you go, and it's like literally the emotional pain of being insulted is the worst thing you've ever experienced.
00:34:12.000 It makes me think that we should treat these people like you're four-month-old going through a burp.
00:34:16.000 Like it is that painful.
00:34:17.000 At the very least, we shouldn't.
00:34:19.000 We're nice to them.
00:34:19.000 We shouldn't bend the knee to every demand they make.
00:34:21.000 And I don't mean treat them like a baby.
00:34:23.000 I mean, have the compassion for the human as if it really is genuine pain, even though to us or to you, it might seem like ridiculous.
00:34:30.000 No.
00:34:30.000 The point is to understand.
00:34:31.000 The baby was screaming like the apocalypse was happening, and then she went, and that was it.
00:34:37.000 And then she smiled.
00:34:37.000 And it's like that's so I understand for the baby who can't burp, there's this is not just a trivial problem.
00:34:44.000 But for a 40-year-old, for a millennial working in government who is crying over burping, we've got a problem.
00:34:51.000 The bigger problem is, I mean, that's an absolute problem, and I agree with you.
00:34:54.000 But what's happening in schools right now in the youngest grades all the way through high school is they're infusing social-emotional learning.
00:35:00.000 I'm not sure how familiar you are with it.
00:35:02.000 You're basically having security and safety circles where you sit around and talk about your feelings at the youngest age and make sure everybody's comfortable.
00:35:10.000 And you spend more time on that than learning how to read.
00:35:13.000 And so we're actually developing children to be this way, even as adults.
00:35:17.000 We will come back to this, but I do want to get back to the war because we do have some news here.
00:35:21.000 This is from, I believe this is from the Telegraph.
00:35:25.000 Fears over Iran's missing 400 kilograms of uranium.
00:35:29.000 And that's if we just believe the reports.
00:35:32.000 But we have this satellite image from Fordo showing what appears to be, I think, 16 trucks.
00:35:37.000 I could be wrong.
00:35:38.000 There may be another one I missed.
00:35:39.000 Now the reports are that two days before the strikes, they were able to get all of the fissile material out of these facilities and then spread them out to who knows where.
00:35:50.000 J.D. Vance is asked about this and he says, we are not so concerned about their 60% enriched uranium.
00:35:56.000 We were concerned if they were going to continue enriching upwards of 90%, and we have taken away their ability to do that.
00:36:03.000 That being said, there are many people who are deeply concerned.
00:36:05.000 This is not over.
00:36:07.000 Iran may agree to a ceasefire, but what happens if they start dispatching even 60% uranium to various rep, like the Houthis or other terrorist insurgent groups in the region, and then we see some random armed insurgent group making threats and making demands, but armed now with a dirty bomb?
00:36:24.000 Well, I mean, I imagine this is something that the administration has on their radar.
00:36:31.000 And I feel like it's the same result.
00:36:34.000 Like if you give, if Iran were to give nuclear material to someone like the Houthis or whatever, like the U.S. is going to find, is going to know where it came from.
00:36:46.000 There's not a whole lot of places where this could come from.
00:36:48.000 You don't think so?
00:36:49.000 Why not?
00:36:51.000 17, let's say 16 trucks.
00:36:53.000 We don't know which one was loaded with what.
00:36:55.000 Those 16 trucks drive off in different directions and go into a big facility where 16 more trucks drive out.
00:37:01.000 Those 16 trucks then drive across various borders into various countries through Pakistan, through India, through into Russia, into China.
00:37:10.000 And now whatever was there is mixed around with whatever was in the other regions before.
00:37:14.000 It just adds to the mix.
00:37:15.000 And we're not going to know where it came from, whose it was.
00:37:19.000 I mean, I'm sure that they'll, you know, I'm sure they'll claim this has all the signatures of Iranians.
00:37:25.000 Using that kind of stuff still is such high risk.
00:37:28.000 Like, what's the benefit?
00:37:30.000 Because you're not going to just, you're only, you're going to terrorize people, right?
00:37:33.000 But like, that's what policy are they trying to get the U.S. to change?
00:37:37.000 Why did the Houthis start bombing tanker vessels in the Red Sea?
00:37:40.000 Because of the war in Gaza, right?
00:37:44.000 Uh-huh.
00:37:44.000 And so if an ideologically driven group is screaming a genocide is occurring and they go from having short-range missiles and RPGs to dirty bombs and enriched uranium, then it's not going to be a short-range missile strike on a tanker.
00:37:58.000 I can't imagine them actually using dirty bombs in Israel just because the goal is like they want the Red Sea.
00:38:05.000 In the Red Sea.
00:38:06.000 So just out of tankers and stuff?
00:38:07.000 I mean, if they dropped only a couple dirty bombs, like we're talking small, low amounts of uranium, but enough to irradiate the passage, you can shut down a chunk of global trade.
00:38:24.000 And what happens if they come out and say, we are here by, we have strategically placed dirty bombs around the area, and we are demanding that Israel surrender and leave immediately.
00:38:37.000 Otherwise, we will detonate them and shut down the Red Sea.
00:38:40.000 Then what do you do?
00:38:41.000 Sure, you can start striking where you believe they are, but we're talking like weird mission impossible-esque missions to locate and shut down dirty bombs.
00:38:52.000 Are you guys, do you know what the types, like what are dirty bomb status right now?
00:38:55.000 I haven't researched it.
00:38:56.000 Dirty bomb is a general term for a, or they can call them suitcase nukes.
00:39:02.000 Basically, it's a hodgepodge of nuclear fissile material in a bomb of varying yield.
00:39:07.000 They're small, but when they go off, they can irradiate small, small portions, like areas of cities or city blocks.
00:39:13.000 It's like a conventional bomb that spreads out the nuclear waste, basically.
00:39:17.000 It could be.
00:39:18.000 It could be.
00:39:19.000 It could be a low-yield nuclear bomb, but likely with enriched uranium, conventional bomb that's going to irradiate.
00:39:24.000 And then what happens if that blows up in an urban area?
00:39:27.000 You could be dealing with decontamination efforts for years.
00:39:31.000 That's the fear of...
00:39:41.000 It's like, no, they won't.
00:39:43.000 They're going to use it as leverage.
00:39:44.000 And they're going to say, we can play ball.
00:39:46.000 The bigger fear is when they start passing it off to Hamas.
00:39:50.000 And then Hamas detonates a dirty bomb at the Rafah crossing or something.
00:39:55.000 I see where their fear is of the bomb because it's like North Korea.
00:39:59.000 Hey, man, whatever you think, they got a big bomb.
00:40:02.000 They got multiple bombs.
00:40:03.000 I don't know how they got them either from the Soviets, maybe?
00:40:05.000 But that country, you can't really tangle with that country militarily because they'll just launch, I would imagine.
00:40:10.000 They're just like, North Korea?
00:40:11.000 Yeah.
00:40:12.000 Yeah, but they have nukes, but they're just like real dumb.
00:40:17.000 The nukes themselves?
00:40:18.000 Like, their weaponry is particularly ineffective.
00:40:21.000 It's there.
00:40:21.000 It exists.
00:40:22.000 There's concerns.
00:40:24.000 The bigger problem with North Korea is the proximity of Seoul, South Korea, to North Korea.
00:40:32.000 They can wipe out Seoul with artillery.
00:40:34.000 Like, you don't need nuclear weapons.
00:40:36.000 Like, they just have enough just conventional artillery to kill 30% of the people that live in Seoul.
00:40:43.000 As an aside, I do need to point out, I think it was Tate who said this.
00:40:45.000 North Korea, with all of its problems, has a fertility rate of three, and South Korea is 0.6.
00:40:51.000 So they split the country in half, gave one struggle and torture, and they've, you know, the population is small, but they're growing.
00:40:58.000 They're trying.
00:40:59.000 And South Korea was given liberalism, and they're destroying themselves.
00:41:03.000 I bet they're lying about that number, though.
00:41:04.000 The North Koreans, I bet they're lying about that number.
00:41:07.000 I'd be shocked.
00:41:07.000 You're saying they have three kids per family is what they're.
00:41:10.000 Are they allowed to use birth control in North Korea?
00:41:12.000 Nope.
00:41:13.000 Pretty sure they're not.
00:41:13.000 Or they don't have access to it.
00:41:15.000 Because I mean, Young Mee Park, was that her name?
00:41:17.000 She's been on the show before.
00:41:18.000 She was a North Korean defector and came on and was like, people starve on the side of the road.
00:41:23.000 Oh, yeah.
00:41:23.000 You'll see them laying in.
00:41:24.000 They're smaller, starving, but there's more of them.
00:41:26.000 To then say that they're having three kids per family when they're small and starving makes it.
00:41:29.000 You think they would lie to us about that?
00:41:30.000 Just because they're.
00:41:31.000 They said they had a unicorn in a cave.
00:41:33.000 They're having three kids.
00:41:34.000 Yeah, but I believe they're becoming adults and making kids themselves.
00:41:38.000 You know what I mean?
00:41:39.000 Like, people die a lot in North Korea.
00:41:41.000 So, like, they hate.
00:41:43.000 I didn't want to derail the conversation.
00:41:44.000 I was just, I thought it was funny what Tate said.
00:41:46.000 But tell me I'm wrong.
00:41:48.000 I'd love to be wrong with the spreading of this near 900 pounds of enriched uranium now disappearing.
00:41:56.000 There's concerns that Iran is just saying, oh, yeah, ceasefire.
00:41:59.000 The war is over.
00:41:59.000 You've got a boss loaded up.
00:42:02.000 Oh, for sure.
00:42:02.000 That's what I would do.
00:42:03.000 If I was in charge, I'd be like, I don't trust anything coming out of these guys.
00:42:06.000 They just sneak attacked our facilities.
00:42:07.000 Let's prepare.
00:42:09.000 They overthrew our country in 53. I'd be crazy.
00:42:11.000 I don't like it at all.
00:42:12.000 I'd be crazy.
00:42:13.000 I don't know about you guys.
00:42:14.000 Why?
00:42:14.000 How?
00:42:15.000 Would you guys be crazy?
00:42:16.000 In what way?
00:42:18.000 Dude, if someone claimed they had it.
00:42:22.000 So I understand with law and war, that's totally different things.
00:42:25.000 But let's just say I'm on a frontier, minding my own business on my property.
00:42:29.000 I got walls.
00:42:30.000 And a dude rides up with his posse, and they all got guns, and they said, we are going to come here with artillery, and we are going to level your building because we don't like that you're growing that crop or whatever.
00:42:40.000 And I'm like, bro, get out of here.
00:42:41.000 Who are you?
00:42:42.000 That sounds like the South.
00:42:43.000 If they then came and started bombing my property, I would be like, the only thing you will get is blood and dirt from coming to my land.
00:42:52.000 So I'm saying my fear in this is that Iran is going to be, I wouldn't call it irrational.
00:42:59.000 I would call it ideological.
00:43:01.000 The idea of being a rational actor is if we bomb Iran and they think they'll die, will they back off?
00:43:06.000 Sure, but you can rationally say we will send, like you will.
00:43:10.000 Hey, Donald Trump, you can't play chicken with.
00:43:14.000 Iran, do you want to play chicken with Donald Trump?
00:43:15.000 You will lose.
00:43:16.000 Trump's going to be like, I'll press the button.
00:43:18.000 And if it was, don't press it.
00:43:19.000 If it was like just the Ayatollah, he might sacrifice himself and they'd come and take it.
00:43:23.000 But he's got 90 million people he's taken care of.
00:43:25.000 So I don't think he would, I don't think he would throw 90 million people away in some grand sacrifice.
00:43:31.000 I mean, dude, it's a theocracy.
00:43:33.000 To get all of Islam to attack the rest of the world.
00:43:36.000 Yes, 72 virgins await you in heaven to war.
00:43:38.000 He's like 80 or something to say.
00:43:39.000 That's a belief system, but why wouldn't he do that?
00:43:43.000 They think it's good to die for the cause.
00:43:45.000 And they may be saying like the great evil is taking over and they are destroying us.
00:43:51.000 We will not lay down.
00:43:52.000 I mean, they previously said Iran will never surrender.
00:43:55.000 Now they're saying there's a ceasefire.
00:43:57.000 So my fear in all this is that that uranium ain't going anywhere and they're going to continue working.
00:44:01.000 I worry about sleeper cells or people pretending to be sleeper cells.
00:44:06.000 People were talking about like if we do something in Iran, then they will activate sleeper cells without acknowledging the fact that having sleeper cells in the United States at all is unacceptable.
00:44:20.000 Just the fact that Iran would send sleeper cells is in and of itself an act of war.
00:44:27.000 I mean, a lot of them have done it before.
00:44:29.000 There's been sleeper cells here for decades.
00:44:31.000 Yeah, I mean, from like Russia and other places.
00:44:33.000 I mean, I imagine that's true, but it's the idea that you don't want to do anything to Iran because they've sent sleeper cells.
00:44:42.000 Well, that's already calling for retaliation.
00:44:45.000 Yeah.
00:44:45.000 You know, like.
00:44:46.000 Why are we allowing them to stay?
00:44:48.000 Yeah.
00:44:48.000 Like, you know, it's the same thing.
00:44:50.000 If we know where they are.
00:44:51.000 I mean, you know, our leaders were on the news saying they're in all 50 states now.
00:44:54.000 Okay.
00:44:55.000 Well, you know, then you must know where they are.
00:44:57.000 Why are they still here?
00:44:58.000 Yeah.
00:44:59.000 So that's why we need to deport everybody.
00:45:02.000 Everybody.
00:45:04.000 All of them.
00:45:05.000 All 20 million.
00:45:07.000 It's like a transfusion.
00:45:08.000 If you take too much too quick, it kills the body.
00:45:10.000 So you got to go.
00:45:11.000 I like this idea of taking the violent criminals first, but then they're going up on Joe Rogan.
00:45:16.000 It's like, this is getting crazy, dude.
00:45:17.000 They're driving up at Home Depots and tackling dudes.
00:45:20.000 No, they all got to go, Ian.
00:45:25.000 You honestly can't care about optics anymore right now with the way the country's been invaded.
00:45:29.000 Oh, I don't agree because I think that the Russian and the Chinese, if we don't have them on our side, if they think that we're truly ballistic and we're going to just start sneak attacking, wait, wait, wait, we're talking about immigration.
00:45:41.000 What are you talking about with the Russian and Chinese?
00:45:43.000 If they see us go authoritarian crackdown hard and sneak attack with bunker busters, other countries, they might be like, all right, it's too far gone now.
00:45:53.000 We can't, at least now we can be negotiated with because it's the United States of America.
00:45:58.000 We stand for liberty.
00:45:59.000 How does that fit into the mass deportations?
00:46:01.000 If you start just grabbing segments of your population, maybe they're a citizen, maybe they're not.
00:46:05.000 We'll find out later.
00:46:06.000 Putin might like that.
00:46:06.000 I give you like respect.
00:46:08.000 I just saw a video of a dude, a Russian dude that had a flag with Putin on it.
00:46:14.000 He pulled it down, crumpled it up, threw it away.
00:46:17.000 And then the next day, he just got picked up.
00:46:19.000 They grabbed him and blackbagged him just because he threw a picture of Putin away.
00:46:23.000 Like, we are far from that, my dude.
00:46:26.000 We are far from that.
00:46:27.000 People that are getting picked up now are actually criminal, illegal aliens.
00:46:32.000 And, you know, maybe some of them haven't committed a violent crime and they're getting picked up just for being illegal, but they're still here illegally.
00:46:41.000 Those borders are so wide open.
00:46:43.000 Ian, you got a lot of ones.
00:46:45.000 Yeah, I know.
00:46:45.000 That was an extreme thing of me to say to kind of like try to pull back on the deportation thing on this show.
00:46:50.000 I know.
00:46:51.000 A lot of people are very, very pro-deportation here.
00:46:53.000 Deportation, no break, all gas.
00:46:56.000 Well, we can, I got, we'll deport Ian.
00:46:58.000 Ian?
00:46:59.000 To where?
00:47:01.000 Take it a show.
00:47:01.000 Trump, Trump.
00:47:02.000 Paris.
00:47:02.000 I want to go to Paris.
00:47:04.000 That sounds like too much fun.
00:47:07.000 So we actually have this story.
00:47:09.000 From the Washington Post, Supreme Court now allows Trump to deport migrants to third countries.
00:47:14.000 The case is done on President Trump's attempt to deport migrants to countries where they are not citizens, including conflict-ridden South Sudan.
00:47:23.000 Some dude comes here from Guatemala and it's like, off you go to South Sudan.
00:47:27.000 I mean, that's a deterrent.
00:47:29.000 I'll say that.
00:47:30.000 Of course, that's the headline from the Washington Post.
00:47:35.000 The Supreme Court on Monday cleared the way for the Trump administration to deport immigrants to countries where they're not citizens, temporarily blocking a decision by a lower court judge that migrants must have a meaningful opportunity to contest their removal.
00:47:46.000 The court's order, which drew a sharp dissent from three liberal justices, was in response to an emergency request by the admin and will remain in place while legal challenges to such removals make their way through the lower courts.
00:47:57.000 As part of Trump's mass deportation efforts, the admin has attempted to send groups of migrants, some convicted of crimes in the U.S., to countries other than their own, including to conflict-ridden South Sudan.
00:48:07.000 I can't believe that.
00:48:07.000 That's ridiculous.
00:48:08.000 Four individuals initially filed a lawsuit in Boston on behalf of all migrants potentially subject to third country removals, saying they are entitled to notice and an opportunity to raise fear-based claims before deportation.
00:48:20.000 To be honest, if you're from like, I don't know, Colombia or Honduras, and Trump's like, we're going to send you to Sudan, I think you have grounds to be like, I have fear of death if you send me there.
00:48:34.000 How does Sudan?
00:48:35.000 How does Sudan feel about this?
00:48:36.000 Have they been consulted?
00:48:38.000 The reason they're going to places like Sudan is, or ostensibly, it's because their nation of origin won't take them back, right?
00:48:45.000 Yes.
00:48:45.000 But Sudan seems like a weird choice.
00:48:47.000 Like, El Salvador, I get.
00:48:49.000 Trump's just like, that sounds good.
00:48:51.000 To be fair, like, these people going to South Sudan, where are they from, though?
00:48:54.000 They may be from some neighboring country or something.
00:48:56.000 Or maybe there's no rhyme or reason at all.
00:48:58.000 It's just get them out of here.
00:48:59.000 We don't have to go.
00:49:00.000 It's a lottery.
00:49:01.000 Yeah.
00:49:01.000 It just doesn't even matter.
00:49:02.000 They just need to go.
00:49:03.000 One of the potential deportees is being held in a makeshift detention at the U.S. Naval Base in Djibouti.
00:49:09.000 Is that how you pronounce it?
00:49:10.000 Djibouti.
00:49:11.000 Yeah, it is.
00:49:11.000 Djibouti.
00:49:12.000 Under health hazards and threat of rocket attacks after the judge said a planned deportation flight to South Sudan violated his order.
00:49:18.000 I got to admit, it's kind of funny.
00:49:19.000 It's hilarious.
00:49:20.000 It is funny.
00:49:21.000 I have concerns about it, but at the same time, don't illegally violate our laws and break into our country.
00:49:27.000 And, you know, if you come here illegally, I'm not sure what degree of sympathies I'm supposed to have if we just tell you to go away.
00:49:32.000 I like that we went from sending them to Martha's Vineyard to sending them to South Sudan.
00:49:36.000 Look, DeSantis is the pilot.
00:49:38.000 Is that what that is?
00:49:39.000 Sending him to Martha's Vineyard was the pilot program.
00:49:43.000 Yeah, they did.
00:49:44.000 They did.
00:49:45.000 you know you want to lead with your best foot did you guys see what the group in Colorado did with the Yeah.
00:49:52.000 Oh, yeah.
00:49:53.000 So Colorado has lost its mind, and I could go into a million things about education that they're doing that are insane and attacking the worst cases of parental rights at their state legislature right now, dividing families.
00:50:03.000 But this just takes the cake.
00:50:04.000 They've got this group there that actually notified the child rapist, illegal immigrant, that ICE was on its way and let him get away.
00:50:14.000 It is.
00:50:15.000 That's like they're high from oxygen deprivation.
00:50:17.000 It's infuriating.
00:50:18.000 It's crazy because they're super terrible.
00:50:20.000 It's disgraceful.
00:50:21.000 Well, I pulled up South Sudan and their biggest city of Juba, which is pretty big.
00:50:26.000 It's pretty big.
00:50:27.000 There's a lot going on here.
00:50:28.000 Looks like the roads are largely made of dirt.
00:50:32.000 Largely dirt.
00:50:33.000 Make it our Australia.
00:50:34.000 Houses are all, they appear to be shanty houses.
00:50:36.000 I don't think they have...
00:50:40.000 Regular old houses.
00:50:41.000 I'm just curious about the standard of living in Juba.
00:50:44.000 They got a university.
00:50:45.000 So maybe there's opportunity for some of these people here.
00:50:48.000 Yeah, you're selling it.
00:50:49.000 Is it better than prison in the U.S. or worse?
00:50:51.000 That's the question.
00:50:53.000 Depends on the prison.
00:50:54.000 Yeah, I prefer exile anyway, so I think they're better off.
00:50:57.000 They got an international airport.
00:50:58.000 Just out.
00:50:59.000 Just out.
00:51:00.000 Yeah, you were saying, Tim, I think you said that I think it's okay that we just grab the illegals and get them out of here.
00:51:05.000 I think you just said that you're pretty sure that it is.
00:51:08.000 I think it depends on the validity of the law they're breaking.
00:51:11.000 And this law about immigration seems like a pretty legit law.
00:51:14.000 So in that instance, if you're being here illegally, it's breaking the law.
00:51:18.000 A legit law, too.
00:51:19.000 It's not like some crazy law where black people can't come to this country.
00:51:21.000 It's stupid shit.
00:51:25.000 Let me just say, I don't know which individuals were actually sent to South Sudan.
00:51:30.000 It may actually be that the people who were sent there are from the neighboring country or something, and that he's doing it because he's like, well, go back to where you're from.
00:51:38.000 However, under the assumption that potentially it could be someone from Guatemala that gets sent to South Sudan, I'd just like to point out that the per capita GDP of Guatemala is $6,682.
00:51:49.000 108th in the world.
00:51:51.000 Yikes.
00:51:51.000 What do y'all think is the per capita GDP of South Sudan?
00:51:55.000 Any guesses?
00:51:56.000 God.
00:51:56.000 Let's go.
00:51:57.000 Come on.
00:51:57.000 Three grand?
00:51:58.000 What do you say?
00:51:59.000 $1,200.
00:52:01.000 $1,200.
00:52:01.000 What say you?
00:52:02.000 $956.
00:52:03.000 All right.
00:52:04.000 Is it real?
00:52:04.000 Bob Barker?
00:52:05.000 I'm going to say $1.
00:52:06.000 $1.
00:52:07.000 Closest without going over is Shane.
00:52:09.000 There you go.
00:52:10.000 $326.
00:52:11.000 Of adults.
00:52:12.000 It's all 18 and over.
00:52:13.000 GDP per capita is $326.
00:52:16.000 That's per year.
00:52:18.000 I think that's like the bottom.
00:52:20.000 194th.
00:52:21.000 Is that the lowest in the world?
00:52:23.000 It is.
00:52:23.000 Aren't we paying?
00:52:24.000 I think people will leave too, so aren't they?
00:52:26.000 They could become kings.
00:52:27.000 Yo, for real, it's the lowest?
00:52:29.000 How unfair, though?
00:52:30.000 I'm going to be maybe the bleeding.
00:52:32.000 Mom.
00:52:34.000 It's fair to their country to send them the worst of the worst that have come into our country.
00:52:39.000 We're going to ship them off to a place that can't even probably afford law enforcement.
00:52:43.000 No, I don't know.
00:52:44.000 No, no, no, no, listen.
00:52:45.000 Listen, if you're from Guatemala and you're a farm worker or someone and you're making $6,000, $7,000 a year, you are going to South Sudan as like a major expert.
00:52:56.000 Like they might be actually able to help South Sudan.
00:53:00.000 They'll be white collar.
00:53:01.000 Yeah, they're going to go there with degrees of expertise in their hands on that.
00:53:04.000 They're just trying to make me feel better about it.
00:53:06.000 Yo, this is wild.
00:53:07.000 South Sudan is the lowest per capita GDP under Afghanistan, Yemen, Burundi.
00:53:12.000 And who do you think number one is?
00:53:14.000 Haiti.
00:53:16.000 The number one GDP?
00:53:17.000 Monaco.
00:53:18.000 Monaco.
00:53:19.000 Yeah.
00:53:19.000 Number one GDP is Monaco?
00:53:21.000 Lowest.
00:53:21.000 Yeah, Haiti is a lowest guest.
00:53:22.000 Actually, it looks like they don't have numbers for Monaco and Liechtenstein, but Luxembourg.
00:53:29.000 That's the number one GDP.
00:53:30.000 There's this one Western African country that has a massive GDP.
00:53:34.000 Ireland is number two?
00:53:35.000 Ghana?
00:53:36.000 Really?
00:53:36.000 Yeah.
00:53:36.000 It was like a trade country.
00:53:38.000 U.S. is sad.
00:53:38.000 That's the US.
00:53:40.000 Where's China?
00:53:42.000 Cheda.
00:53:43.000 That's fine.
00:53:44.000 Cheda.
00:53:46.000 Oh, man.
00:53:47.000 It's down there.
00:53:49.000 Really?
00:53:49.000 Oh, yeah.
00:53:50.000 Oh, they got a lot of people.
00:53:51.000 Can I pass it?
00:53:51.000 There's Taiwan right there.
00:53:53.000 There's what?
00:53:55.000 Taiwan.
00:53:56.000 Oh, okay.
00:53:57.000 We have 1.4 billion because they tell us they've got over a billion people, which could be.
00:54:00.000 Oh, wow.
00:54:01.000 China's 70. Wow.
00:54:02.000 That's surprising.
00:54:03.000 Very surprising.
00:54:04.000 Yeah, it is because I think they're lying about their population numbers.
00:54:07.000 What if they really got 600,000 people?
00:54:09.000 Now you're going to see their GDP at like number seven or six, you know?
00:54:12.000 Macau tied at number seven.
00:54:15.000 I don't know why they're doing that, though.
00:54:18.000 Like it says seven, United States and Macau, but they clearly have different numbers.
00:54:22.000 I don't know why they do that.
00:54:25.000 No idea.
00:54:26.000 Yeah.
00:54:27.000 Number one, it says Monaco, Liechtenstein, Luxembourg.
00:54:30.000 Monaco.
00:54:31.000 That's like the highest GDP per capita.
00:54:34.000 Yeah.
00:54:35.000 A lot of money.
00:54:35.000 Loudoun County is the highest median income in the country, which is just across the street.
00:54:40.000 Radical liberals.
00:54:42.000 Actually, they're not.
00:54:43.000 Those mobs helped win that governor election.
00:54:47.000 The field I'm in, they're terrible.
00:54:48.000 But this is why Loudoun was like the majority.
00:54:54.000 Yeah, yeah, because it's actually pretty middle of the road.
00:54:58.000 So you've got moderate liberal types, disaffected former liberals and some conservatives, and then you find out what's going on in your schools, people freak out.
00:55:09.000 Craziness.
00:55:10.000 If it was far left, nobody would care.
00:55:11.000 Like, look at L.A. We don't have protests in L.A. over this stuff.
00:55:15.000 They celebrate it.
00:55:16.000 So the fact that Loudoun was fairly moderate and they had this far-left stuff, it caused the uproar.
00:55:21.000 So then people, you know, they push back.
00:55:24.000 But I think we need to answer this question.
00:55:26.000 Do you guys, how concerned are you with Trump sending illegal immigrants to any random country?
00:55:32.000 I don't care where they go.
00:55:33.000 You don't care.
00:55:34.000 Yeah, just get them out.
00:55:36.000 Get them out.
00:55:37.000 He cares.
00:55:38.000 I don't care.
00:55:39.000 Sending them halfway across the world when they can never get back to where they're, I guess the countries won't take them.
00:55:44.000 Right.
00:55:44.000 They shouldn't have come here then.
00:55:45.000 Yeah.
00:55:46.000 I mean, I'm talking about the country that they're sending them to.
00:55:49.000 I feel bad for that country.
00:55:50.000 I feel bad for our country.
00:55:53.000 You know, it's like when, was it, Britain sent all the criminals to Australia and the U.S., but Australia, I guess we did okay.
00:56:00.000 Yeah, we got crocodile Dundee out of it.
00:56:02.000 Get them out of here.
00:56:03.000 Get them out of here.
00:56:04.000 I think I'm only concerned with contingencies of what could possibly happen.
00:56:08.000 Man, because if you sent a lot of people to a country that had a hostile attitude towards the U.S., they might use those people to do something to us.
00:56:14.000 They all hate us.
00:56:15.000 They all hate everybody.
00:56:17.000 Hey, check it out.
00:56:19.000 I was looking at South Sudan here.
00:56:20.000 Pull this up.
00:56:21.000 And I was trying to find, like, I like to look at cities and try to figure out where's their wealthy area.
00:56:26.000 And, you know, I noticed trees.
00:56:28.000 There are only some areas that have nice trees.
00:56:31.000 So I zoomed in on this nice little cluster of areas with trees.
00:56:34.000 And guess what I found?
00:56:35.000 Yeah.
00:56:36.000 USAID.
00:56:37.000 Oh, wow.
00:56:38.000 Oh, nice.
00:56:39.000 Good.
00:56:40.000 So obviously, when you see all the trees and there's grass and it's well maintained, there's relative to everybody else, you got some wealth there.
00:56:48.000 And it turns out USAID operating right there.
00:56:50.000 Why not no more?
00:56:51.000 Can we pull up Zillow?
00:56:53.000 Yeah, Zillow for South Sudan.
00:56:55.000 I mean, there's grass.
00:56:56.000 There's the most fun I've had in days.
00:56:58.000 There's grass, you know?
00:56:59.000 I'm like, someone's got money.
00:57:01.000 The nicest building in all of Sudan is the best.
00:57:03.000 It's got that USAID building.
00:57:05.000 Well, it's because it's like, who's got access to the trees?
00:57:08.000 You know what I mean?
00:57:08.000 You live in a nice area where there's grass, paved roads, and trees.
00:57:12.000 And I'm like, that's the wealthy.
00:57:14.000 You can afford irrigation.
00:57:15.000 Yep.
00:57:16.000 They have sprinklers.
00:57:17.000 That's wild, dude.
00:57:18.000 It cost an arm and a leg over there.
00:57:19.000 That's wild.
00:57:20.000 That curbs would be like the indicator of affluent lifestyle in urban areas.
00:57:27.000 If you got curbs, you know, you've got things like, you know, indoor plumbing and you're doing okay.
00:57:32.000 Wow.
00:57:33.000 Did you say Trump is floating the idea to do this?
00:57:37.000 Apparently, people are scheduled to go to South Sudan.
00:57:40.000 Now, the question is, are they going to the capital or might he send them to like Nagero?
00:57:46.000 Yeah, rural.
00:57:47.000 Yeah.
00:57:48.000 Go to rural South Sudan.
00:57:49.000 How far does this go?
00:57:50.000 I mean, he sends them on a plane.
00:57:51.000 They land at the major airport.
00:57:53.000 They take a parachute.
00:57:53.000 And then they have to jump out of the plane.
00:57:56.000 No, I mean, I'm assuming they go to the airport and then what?
00:57:58.000 They just open the plane.
00:58:00.000 And, I mean, do they put them on a bus?
00:58:01.000 Are we finding them in the New York?
00:58:03.000 They're no longer our problem.
00:58:05.000 Once you get them to the airport and off the plane, didn't Giuliani do that?
00:58:10.000 He put all the homeless people on buses.
00:58:12.000 To me, in my neck of the woods.
00:58:13.000 Yeah, Newburgh, New York.
00:58:15.000 Put them all on buses.
00:58:16.000 Newburgh became one of the worst cities in the country.
00:58:19.000 You know, that's like horrible, but kind of funny at the same time.
00:58:22.000 Yeah, it was a fun place to be as a teenager.
00:58:25.000 The current governor's not doing, I mean, she's a raging liberal Democrat.
00:58:28.000 Local?
00:58:29.000 Yeah, she's, I mean, she's kind of doing the same thing.
00:58:31.000 I have an aunt that lives outside of Utica and was in like a retirement community.
00:58:36.000 And they actually took three of their five buildings for homeless people from the city that they brought up there and paid for them.
00:58:41.000 And she just said it became drug infested.
00:58:44.000 They took away hotels that I have family members that were working at, like in bars and restaurants, and gave those to illegals with the debit card money, you know?
00:58:51.000 Entire hotels just given.
00:58:53.000 You know, you brought up the British sending all those illegal, all those criminals to Australia.
00:58:57.000 That happened.
00:58:58.000 That's real.
00:58:58.000 And like, we're kind of in a situation right now where we're about, are we going to do that now?
00:59:01.000 But they didn't have social media.
00:59:03.000 They're criminals.
00:59:04.000 They're just criminals.
00:59:05.000 Yeah, they're just criminals.
00:59:06.000 They're not even our citizen criminals.
00:59:07.000 They're just kind of funny.
00:59:09.000 Like, I have to imagine South Sudan saying yes.
00:59:13.000 I mean, I'll put it this way.
00:59:14.000 You're South Sudan, right?
00:59:15.000 Your average per capita GDP is 300 bucks.
00:59:18.000 You're the lowest in the world.
00:59:19.000 And Trump says, I can send you some guys from a country where they're on average making seven grand.
00:59:23.000 That are potentially child rapists.
00:59:25.000 That are potentially murderers.
00:59:26.000 Many of them.
00:59:27.000 That are drug dealers.
00:59:28.000 That may be a step up for South Sudan.
00:59:30.000 No.
00:59:31.000 No.
00:59:32.000 They may go right to jail in South Sudan if they're one of those people.
00:59:35.000 I'm going to get a letter from the South Sudanese government being like, that was inappropriate.
00:59:38.000 They're going to war with Timpool.
00:59:39.000 South Sudan versus Timpool.
00:59:43.000 I actually do feel bad about that.
00:59:44.000 The people of South Sudan are not bad people.
00:59:46.000 Yeah.
00:59:46.000 I don't need to rag on an entire nation of people who are just living their lives because they're poor.
00:59:50.000 It's not to make a judgment call without having them here on the show.
00:59:52.000 We should invite a South Sudanese person on the show.
00:59:56.000 They've never been in our country to start with.
00:59:58.000 And so now it's our problem.
00:59:59.000 I imagine our government's going to coordinate with South Sudan.
01:00:02.000 Yeah, that's what I'm doing.
01:00:03.000 I'm looking that up right now.
01:00:04.000 And if there's people who are evil, like you're mentioning, they go away, you know, like the El Salvador prison.
01:00:09.000 Is Sudan like a go away?
01:00:12.000 What do you mean they go away?
01:00:13.000 This is a kid-friendly show.
01:00:14.000 I don't want to say what I truly want to say.
01:00:17.000 They're 60% Christian.
01:00:19.000 I don't know if it matters.
01:00:20.000 30%.
01:00:21.000 60% Christian is a little bit more than the United States these days.
01:00:25.000 Are they like a puppet state of the U.S.?
01:00:27.000 No.
01:00:28.000 Sudan?
01:00:29.000 Yeah.
01:00:29.000 That's Haiti.
01:00:31.000 It's 60% Christ.
01:00:32.000 Not that it matters.
01:00:32.000 Okay, where are we now, Tim?
01:00:34.000 Is this GTA or something?
01:00:35.000 I think it's Malakal.
01:00:36.000 This is South Sudan, apparently.
01:00:38.000 I got no street view.
01:00:39.000 I'm trying to find...
01:00:43.000 It looked like an establishment.
01:00:44.000 I'm trying to find street viewpoints, but it's kind of...
01:00:51.000 I think the airport might have some.
01:00:52.000 Here we go.
01:00:53.000 Juba.
01:00:53.000 We'll click that button.
01:00:54.000 Let's go to South Sudan.
01:00:57.000 Okay.
01:00:58.000 Well, there you go.
01:00:59.000 Oh, look, they have fire extinguishers.
01:01:02.000 All right.
01:01:03.000 I don't think this is South Sudan.
01:01:06.000 It's just like a Glory Regency Hotel.
01:01:09.000 I don't know.
01:01:09.000 Maybe it is.
01:01:11.000 They were at a subject.
01:01:13.000 You can go in the room.
01:01:15.000 I wonder why that was.
01:01:16.000 I don't think there's a Glory Regency Hotel right there.
01:01:19.000 I think that's just a misplaced street view.
01:01:26.000 Okay, let's click that one.
01:01:29.000 There's nothing.
01:01:31.000 Hey, here you go.
01:01:32.000 People are under 18 years old in this country.
01:01:34.000 Oh, man.
01:01:35.000 This looks like South Sudan.
01:01:36.000 Oh, yeah.
01:01:36.000 Dirt roads.
01:01:37.000 Everything's a dirt road.
01:01:38.000 That's wild.
01:01:39.000 Like I said, man, curbs tell the story.
01:01:41.000 Yeah.
01:01:42.000 That's crazy.
01:01:43.000 Your town has curbs.
01:01:44.000 And look at this.
01:01:46.000 Nessico.
01:01:48.000 They got stuff going on down there.
01:01:49.000 Are they getting paid?
01:01:50.000 I bet they got great parties.
01:01:51.000 Do they get paid per immigrant?
01:01:54.000 What do you want to call?
01:01:55.000 How do you want to call these people?
01:01:56.000 Are they getting paid?
01:01:57.000 Are we like bribing them?
01:01:59.000 Actually, in all seriousness, what if Trump is saying, we're going to, the reason South Sudan's an option is he says, you hold these guys and we'll pay you a thousand bucks a year.
01:02:06.000 And they're like, ooh.
01:02:07.000 I mean, I don't know how the deal is structured or whatever, but if they're not here, it's worth the money.
01:02:17.000 I don't.
01:02:18.000 I think that's actually a great idea.
01:02:20.000 And then if they disappear, they just get the money.
01:02:22.000 And if they don't disappear, they sit in a jail cell and it costs them $300 a year to cover them and the country makes a profit.
01:02:29.000 That's what they're doing in El Salvador, basically.
01:02:31.000 It's a lot cheaper to put them in prison in Sudan than it would be in the United States.
01:02:35.000 So I, you know, okay.
01:02:37.000 I'm coming around.
01:02:38.000 I'm coming around.
01:02:38.000 Send them back.
01:02:39.000 Bombs for Liberty is the end of a Sudan chapter.
01:02:43.000 The biggest reason to send them back isn't just about sending them back and getting these people out.
01:02:49.000 It's trying to disincentivize other people that are here from staying here.
01:02:54.000 Personally, I want to see pressure on anyone that would hire illegals.
01:02:59.000 If you knowingly hire illegal immigrants, you should lose your property.
01:03:04.000 You should lose your business.
01:03:05.000 It should be really extreme because this is a massive problem for the United States, specifically when it comes to the way that the census is going to go and congressional districts and voting.
01:03:16.000 So anything that we can do to get people to leave is good, in my opinion.
01:03:22.000 Gotta go.
01:03:23.000 Gotta go.
01:03:24.000 It's Sudan.
01:03:25.000 When you're embedded in the communities with those people as your friends, it is so, that'd be so hard for, I'm just thinking about some of the people I worked with.
01:03:32.000 I mean, I wouldn't be so hard, but I've worked at restaurants in Los Angeles and like dudes from Honduras and wherever.
01:03:37.000 You got to divorce yourself from that compassion of yours to save the country.
01:03:41.000 You get rid of anyone who broke the law to get here.
01:03:45.000 You just walk in one day and they're just all gone.
01:03:48.000 It'll feel like the Soviet Union, but you know it's not.
01:03:51.000 It's a rapture.
01:03:51.000 If they sign up right now, I think I heard on the news this morning, if they register with the government right now and go back, there's a path for them to enter legally.
01:04:00.000 Oh, 100%.
01:04:01.000 So your friends, your fellow friends at your restaurant, I mean, they need to go home and do it right.
01:04:07.000 And I think there's nothing wrong with that.
01:04:10.000 Nope.
01:04:10.000 And most of America agrees.
01:04:13.000 Like, I mean, Trump is still, even after having the news covering fights over immigration and stuff, the American people didn't change their opinion about deportations.
01:04:27.000 Like, there are a few places where it got heated and there were some protests because, well, you know, it's protest season and they ain't got nothing else to do.
01:04:36.000 But for the most part, the American people are still on board.
01:04:39.000 It's still two-thirds of Americans want to see actual deportations.
01:04:42.000 It's not just want to fix the border.
01:04:44.000 It's fix the border and deport.
01:04:47.000 Why is it so different from 2017 and 2018 when, I mean, the media was just, you know, there was no support for any deportations or the wall, if you recall.
01:04:58.000 All of the news was about cages, kids in cages, separating families, and it was dominating in the mainstream media and everywhere.
01:05:05.000 And some of it was, I mean, they were down there filming, crying, all the things.
01:05:10.000 We're not seeing, you know what's happening, but we're not seeing it in the mainstream news.
01:05:14.000 Because the world was a totally different place before 2020.
01:05:20.000 2020 and COVID and the Summer of Love changed America in ways that I don't think we are ready.
01:05:28.000 We can even see yet.
01:05:29.000 And they also changed their tune in the media on deportations because they chose to not report on it, really, for Obama, who was the deporter-in-chief.
01:05:37.000 And then when Trump came down, he was like the bad guy who didn't even build the cages.
01:05:41.000 Those are the last guy's cages, right?
01:05:43.000 So they just chose not to make it a thing.
01:05:45.000 But they really hung it around him.
01:05:47.000 And I remember most of America did not support all that.
01:05:51.000 Now they are.
01:05:51.000 They had to attach him to being racist because of the whole Mexican thing and all that stuff.
01:05:55.000 So it was like their way of conflating those and turning him to an evil guy.
01:05:59.000 The Venezuelan gangs that took over that town and didn't help.
01:06:03.000 That was like a flashpoint that woke so many people up because it was huge world global news.
01:06:08.000 And then people in the news kind of pretend like it wasn't happening.
01:06:11.000 And other people are like, yo, I live here.
01:06:13.000 Not only that, but stuff like when J.D. Vance was talking about it, and it was the I Don't Really Care Margaret interview, I believe.
01:06:19.000 But when he said, look, the proper number of apartment buildings to be taken over by Trende Aragua is zero.
01:06:27.000 That's the acceptable number.
01:06:29.000 Any other number is unacceptable.
01:06:31.000 Let's jump to this story.
01:06:32.000 We've got some of the Daily Mail.
01:06:33.000 Joe Scarborough defends Donald Trump.
01:06:38.000 Biesel.
01:06:39.000 Biesel.
01:06:39.000 That's right, ladies and gentlemen.
01:06:40.000 They say MSNBC host and notorious Trump basher Joe Scarborough stunningly defended the president's bombing of Iran over the weekend, saying Hillary Clinton and several previous presidents have all done the same.
01:06:50.000 He's not wrong about that.
01:06:52.000 Morning Joe hosts surprising tape came as discourse swirled about Trump's strike on fortified uranium enrichment facilities and blah, blah, blah.
01:06:57.000 We get it.
01:06:59.000 Look, I have no problem saying I called it, but so did everyone else.
01:07:03.000 When Trump launched Tom Hawk missile strikes in Syria, the media called him presidential.
01:07:08.000 We knew if Trump launched a strike on Iran, the media is going to scream and clap and cheer.
01:07:14.000 And here they are, or at least here's Joe.
01:07:17.000 And you know what?
01:07:18.000 One of the big reasons is, one, they're all deep state warmongers, but their views go up.
01:07:24.000 They can see when there's war, they look at their metrics and they're like, war is good because war scares people.
01:07:30.000 And then people watch the news.
01:07:32.000 Yep.
01:07:32.000 It's a doom economy.
01:07:33.000 Oh, I've been to the news.
01:07:36.000 I've been attached for 48 hours since the bombs dropped.
01:07:38.000 I've been just news Ian's ever listened to.
01:07:41.000 Taking news and reading news.
01:07:43.000 Ian doesn't even, when we're talking about news, he plugs his ears.
01:07:45.000 I did a two-hour call with these Israelis.
01:07:47.000 It was like, they call, it was like Zionist freedom fighters kind of tongue-in-cheek, but I was like, let's just see.
01:07:52.000 Let's go hang out.
01:07:52.000 And they invited me up to talk.
01:07:53.000 And it's like, I've just been in the machine for 48 hours, man.
01:07:58.000 And they wrote you a check to support them?
01:08:01.000 It's in the mail.
01:08:02.000 They actually invited me to Israel.
01:08:03.000 It's in the mail.
01:08:03.000 I was invited to Israel.
01:08:05.000 I have a question, though, because his viewers don't like Trump, probably, on MSNBC.
01:08:10.000 So why wouldn't he just take the opposite and just bash Trump and pretend exposure on things that are made up?
01:08:16.000 Like they always do.
01:08:17.000 Why side with him?
01:08:19.000 It's still news for him to fight it and come out and bash Trump about it.
01:08:23.000 Because this is the one time for MSNBC their ratings are probably greater than just the people who hate Trump.
01:08:28.000 And so you've got people tuning in now just looking for news.
01:08:32.000 He wants to capture a new audience.
01:08:34.000 They want to get away from we are the evil Trump is, you know, we only hate Trump.
01:08:38.000 We offer no real news.
01:08:39.000 But more importantly, they want to encourage Trump to do more.
01:08:41.000 Trump is a sucker for people kissing his ass.
01:08:46.000 So when Trump turns on Scarborough and sees everybody cheering for him, he's going to be like, yeah.
01:08:50.000 And they're hoping he does more.
01:08:52.000 Because I tell you this, the MSNBC producers are sitting there.
01:08:56.000 I was very crass on X when I posted about it, so I won't do that here.
01:08:59.000 But let's just say they're excited, in a matter of speaking, when they see those numbers, when Trump announces a strike, they immediately are just flush red.
01:09:10.000 They're high fiving.
01:09:11.000 They're whipping out the blow.
01:09:13.000 They're having a good time.
01:09:14.000 And they tell Joe, this is a good thing.
01:09:16.000 Tell him to do more.
01:09:17.000 Why?
01:09:18.000 Because our ratings are 2X.
01:09:20.000 I think it's partly because he wants to impress Mika Brzezinski, whose father was Big Nev Brzezinski from the Council on Foreign Relations.
01:09:29.000 So he's just showing off his warmonger cred for Mika to get her warmed up.
01:09:33.000 Who did he fund?
01:09:35.000 Who did he fund?
01:09:35.000 Pol Pot for Carter.
01:09:38.000 Oh, did he really?
01:09:39.000 They funded Pol Pot.
01:09:41.000 These people love blood.
01:09:42.000 The whole Morning Joe lineup is all like CFR.
01:09:46.000 Yeah, dude.
01:09:46.000 Like all the international bureaucrats that you don't like.
01:09:49.000 Bad people.
01:09:50.000 Pol Pot.
01:09:51.000 Pol Pot.
01:09:52.000 Can you explain?
01:09:53.000 It was a genocidal maniac who shot a lot of people.
01:09:56.000 The Khmer Rouge was.
01:09:58.000 He killed 20% of the population of Cambodia.
01:10:02.000 And they marched people and had them die on the trail and stuff.
01:10:05.000 All kinds of millions.
01:10:06.000 I don't know if there's any particular trail of tears or anything, but there was 8 million people in the country and he killed 2 million of them.
01:10:14.000 You say Mika's father funded this guy?
01:10:16.000 He was like a Carter guy.
01:10:18.000 I forget what his title was, but they helped fund it to inflate it for some narrative they were spinning.
01:10:23.000 I forget exactly what that was.
01:10:25.000 It's been a while since I read about it, but yeah, he was the guy, her dad.
01:10:28.000 He did a lot of crazy things, but that's the one I remember.
01:10:31.000 Of course, you're not your father, but definitely a person if you grow up with them.
01:10:36.000 She's in that class, though.
01:10:38.000 If you're talking about the elite class that is tied into global politics and can't be removed, Mika Brzezinski's in that because it's people like Spignev Brzezinski from the Council on Foreign Relations, and it's people like Kissinger and stuff like that that had significant, and the Clintons and stuff have significant influence on global affairs.
01:11:01.000 Did you have something to say?
01:11:02.000 A random question.
01:11:04.000 I'm trying to understand your role in this group.
01:11:07.000 Are you regular here?
01:11:09.000 That's a hilarious question.
01:11:10.000 Yeah, it is because there's like this dynamic and then He's the wild card.
01:11:16.000 My role is the healer.
01:11:17.000 I'm the healer.
01:11:17.000 You ever play role-playing games?
01:11:19.000 You always have a different take than everyone else at the table.
01:11:22.000 Just a random, but we're still trying to figure it out.
01:11:27.000 I was always singing as a child.
01:11:31.000 He's very smart, but he hums all the time.
01:11:33.000 Well, his point is he wouldn't stop, so I kept hitting him, trying to get him to kill him.
01:11:36.000 He did get bullied as a kid.
01:11:37.000 I'm just trying to make up for it now without doing something I regret.
01:11:42.000 I think my role here is to heal the world with internet video, to provide an opportunity for people to speak and be heard.
01:11:49.000 And to think very highly of themselves.
01:11:50.000 And to subvert the narrative, because I'll say really extreme stuff in a real casual, quick way, and then we just laugh and move on.
01:11:56.000 But I seed it into the consciousness.
01:11:58.000 Like, I want to overthrow.
01:12:00.000 I would love to see the Iranian totalitarian theocracy.
01:12:05.000 He's somehow like a soft hippie, but also possibly a tyrant.
01:12:09.000 He's talked about how the U.S. should spread democracy to foreign countries.
01:12:12.000 He wanted Gaza to be the 51st state.
01:12:14.000 He wanted Gaza to be the 51st state.
01:12:16.000 I'm playing the global play in the middle.
01:12:19.000 Like the art of war.
01:12:22.000 I really take the art of war seriously.
01:12:23.000 I think that we need to subvert the narrative using mass media.
01:12:27.000 Okay.
01:12:28.000 And so, you know, act weak when you're strong.
01:12:30.000 That's why I act like a silly goof on this show so much.
01:12:33.000 Okay.
01:12:33.000 Yeah.
01:12:33.000 People give you a lot of problems online.
01:12:36.000 You know, and like they'll, they'll see me and be like, well, what's up with Ian?
01:12:38.000 I'm like, Ian's the man.
01:12:39.000 And he also pushes everyone to defend their point by saying something that might sound outlandish to someone, to people watching.
01:12:45.000 I like it, but that's very good.
01:12:46.000 It's just going to be no consistency.
01:12:47.000 Like he just pokes a hole, pokes a hole, pokes a hole.
01:12:50.000 And I'm like, in holes and ideas is no consistency.
01:12:55.000 I love doing that.
01:12:55.000 Yeah.
01:12:56.000 Even my own ideas.
01:12:56.000 He made just me nuts.
01:12:57.000 No consistency crossland.
01:12:59.000 That's what we call them around here.
01:13:01.000 They're getting a piggyback.
01:13:02.000 Sorry to derail the whole conversation.
01:13:03.000 I just, I think so much, so much.
01:13:06.000 And I'll be thinking about ideas.
01:13:07.000 And then I'll poke holes in my own ideas.
01:13:09.000 And I'll picture Tim telling me like, no, and I'm like, what would my friends say?
01:13:12.000 And I picture having conversations with my fan.
01:13:14.000 And I'm like, okay, criticize myself.
01:13:16.000 So I do that to him and you when we're talking, I poke holes in you.
01:13:19.000 So the joke is, are you familiar with Dungeons and Dragons?
01:13:25.000 A little bit.
01:13:26.000 So simple version.
01:13:27.000 When you're in the game, you will roll a 20-sided dice to determine whether you succeed or fail at certain tasks.
01:13:32.000 If you roll a 20, it's called a critical success, and whatever you're doing just works.
01:13:37.000 And if you roll a one, it's called a critical failure, and whatever you're doing just fails, no matter what your stats are.
01:13:42.000 The joke is that Ian can only either roll a one or a 20. You kept saying one.
01:13:46.000 That's a one.
01:13:47.000 Yeah, okay.
01:13:47.000 Got it.
01:13:48.000 That's why the audience will post, like, there's no middle ground.
01:13:51.000 Ian never says anything that's kind of like, oh, yeah, I guess.
01:13:53.000 It's either that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard or, wow, that's a really great point.
01:13:57.000 It's, you know.
01:13:58.000 And it's hyperbolic.
01:14:00.000 I can be very middle of the road, but it's boring.
01:14:02.000 I like to make big deals out of stuff.
01:14:04.000 I mean, fuck it, dude.
01:14:06.000 We're on one of the hottest shows on earth right now.
01:14:08.000 Make fun of it.
01:14:08.000 Like, enjoy life.
01:14:09.000 Do good, you know?
01:14:11.000 I just think it's crazy.
01:14:13.000 I'm the fool character.
01:14:14.000 That archetype.
01:14:15.000 Sure.
01:14:16.000 Like Benjamin Franklin style, like friend of the king.
01:14:21.000 He's no threat.
01:14:21.000 He's just a goof.
01:14:23.000 What do you think, though?
01:14:23.000 And the fool will tell him the truth.
01:14:25.000 Yeah, I don't know.
01:14:26.000 advocated for intervention and nation-building well Depends on.
01:14:33.000 These hippie Dick Cheney.
01:14:35.000 These nations don't build themselves.
01:14:36.000 I used to be just, no more war.
01:14:38.000 Yeah, look in here.
01:14:39.000 Look at South Sudan.
01:14:40.000 Right?
01:14:41.000 They're in need of some regime change.
01:14:42.000 That's right.
01:14:43.000 I used to scream, no more war.
01:14:44.000 I used to just plainly say, we got to end all the wars and stop, stop.
01:14:48.000 And now I realize the nuance of the global power structure.
01:14:51.000 And sometimes you need to attack.
01:14:53.000 Yeah, the liberal world order needs to maintain its hegemony.
01:14:59.000 It makes me very nervous because there's going to be a new world order, but it's going to be mostly liberal.
01:15:04.000 She pinpointed this dynamic.
01:15:07.000 I'm saying she pinpointed a very important part of this entire dynamic.
01:15:11.000 Yeah.
01:15:11.000 It felt good, but then I got like really overstimulated.
01:15:16.000 Sorry for D-Rell.
01:15:17.000 Too much sugar.
01:15:18.000 You know, it's funny because the chat is always ragging on him, but in real life, everyone I meet loves him.
01:15:22.000 Who gets the loudest applause?
01:15:25.000 Oh, yeah.
01:15:25.000 It's Ian.
01:15:27.000 So we were at Turning Point USA, and Ian walks out.
01:15:30.000 Everyone starts screaming as loud as they can.
01:15:32.000 And then as we're leaving the show, Ian turns around and falls off the stage five feet and smatters on the ground.
01:15:37.000 I was totally fine.
01:15:37.000 Is that on accident?
01:15:38.000 No, I didn't see the hole.
01:15:40.000 It was on accident.
01:15:40.000 He just bounced right there.
01:15:41.000 Oh, because the way the stage was, it was like a straight path and then split.
01:15:44.000 So Ian was walking backwards and turned to wave.
01:15:46.000 It just went straight off.
01:15:47.000 It was divine.
01:15:48.000 It was loud.
01:15:49.000 I was like in the moment.
01:15:50.000 I started making YouTube videos in 06 and I was like, what would Jesus do with this technology?
01:15:54.000 So I was able to clear my mind by being honest on the internet because once you're honest, you don't get distracted by your secrets and you don't have secrets anymore to get distracted by.
01:16:02.000 And then you're very aware of your surroundings.
01:16:03.000 So when I fell off the stage, I was like, it was in slow motion and I could move and land on my feet.
01:16:08.000 And you were okay.
01:16:09.000 Yeah.
01:16:09.000 Did people, everybody see you fall or just the backstage?
01:16:11.000 No, no, everybody see the fall.
01:16:12.000 The whole place, everyone's live streaming, everyone, like millions of people.
01:16:16.000 But when Ian comes out, the crowd goes nuts.
01:16:19.000 Absolutely.
01:16:20.000 And I think it's because people largely view him as like a wild card.
01:16:25.000 That his, whether intentionally or not, whatever it is he's claiming, like he's saying he's doing it on purpose, I don't know that he is, but it's okay because it's a curveball all the time.
01:16:34.000 And that's kind of the point.
01:16:36.000 Okay, well, I'm just going to make it, I'm going to make it loud and clear that I think you're fantastic.
01:16:40.000 If you have that big of a following, I do not want to cross you.
01:16:44.000 My last name's Crossland.
01:16:46.000 I like to listen.
01:16:47.000 Listening is such a powerful tool.
01:16:49.000 Let's talk about parents.
01:16:50.000 We got this from the postmillennial.
01:16:52.000 Parents' Rights Group files Title IX complaint against Smith College for allowing trans-identified males into women's only school.
01:17:00.000 Quote, ironically, in what appears to be yet another exercise in sex discrimination, Smith admits natal men who identify as women, but do not admit natal women who identify as men.
01:17:09.000 Wow, wait, really?
01:17:10.000 That's hilarious.
01:17:13.000 So there's a restaurant that I think is absolutely fantastic.
01:17:17.000 It's called Founding Farmers.
01:17:18.000 There's a bunch of them.
01:17:18.000 You guys ever been there?
01:17:20.000 It is, holy crap, there's one in Reston in Loudoun County.
01:17:24.000 So you know it's going to be putting on the writs, right?
01:17:27.000 When you're walking into this shopping district, they have like these gigantic LED screens of an aquarium.
01:17:33.000 It's nuts.
01:17:34.000 And then you walk into this place and there's Saturday, Sunday brunch.
01:17:37.000 It is amazing.
01:17:39.000 And they sell this bourbon barrel aged maple syrup.
01:17:43.000 I love this place.
01:17:44.000 And I went there this weekend and one of the servers walked up and said, I'm a huge fan, man.
01:17:47.000 And I was like, wow, thank you very much.
01:17:48.000 And then when I went to the bathroom, the bathroom door says M and W in mind, body, and spirit.
01:17:55.000 And I was like, okay, that's kind of weird and creepy.
01:17:57.000 And I wonder if they have to do it because of the district, because it's Virginia.
01:18:01.000 So they just put it up.
01:18:03.000 But these are shared bathrooms.
01:18:06.000 So I just think like, I shouldn't derail off of this story and what's going on.
01:18:11.000 I'm just saying, I just find that I took a picture of it.
01:18:14.000 It is very strange.
01:18:16.000 And as a dude, I don't really care if a woman walks into the bathroom when I'm like dropping a deuce.
01:18:20.000 It's like the problem's hers, not mine.
01:18:22.000 But if you're a woman, I can understand if like some dude walks in, you're going to be upset.
01:18:26.000 I'm not using that bathroom.
01:18:27.000 Like I will hold it for days before I'll walk into that bathroom unless I have somebody to guard it and make sure nobody else walks in while then some dude's going to walk and be like, excuse me, Bab.
01:18:36.000 And she's going to be like, someone's in there and be like, I'm going to, you know, they're going to push them out of the way and go in there.
01:18:40.000 It's going to cause a scene.
01:18:41.000 Okay, then I guess I just hold it for days.
01:18:43.000 That's crazy.
01:18:44.000 Look, man, all the options are on the table.
01:18:48.000 Is this your organization, Tia?
01:18:50.000 No, this is Defending Ed, good friends of ours, Nikki Neely, their president over there.
01:18:55.000 And she works very closely with Moms for Liberty, but the Smith College or university up there, Smith College is one of the largest women's universities in the country.
01:19:06.000 And this lawsuit is justified because the people at this school, the faculty at this school, have lost their minds, truly.
01:19:16.000 They're violating their admissions policy.
01:19:18.000 They're violating their equal opportunity employment policies by trying to walk this line of sex and gender ideology, conflating them, basically.
01:19:28.000 I mean, you can't follow Title IX and your admissions policy to say that you're not going to discriminate against sex and then say you're going to follow gender identity.
01:19:39.000 And so they just got a mess on their hands.
01:19:41.000 And this lawsuit goes after all of those prongs.
01:19:44.000 You know, I do see some benefit to all of this in that it shows how the Civil Rights Act is, it makes no sense on paper.
01:19:54.000 The issue with most laws that we interpret it as to what makes sense.
01:19:57.000 So for example, with the Civil Rights Act, they were like, okay, no more racial discrimination and segregation.
01:20:03.000 It makes no sense, right?
01:20:04.000 Why have a white bathroom and a black bathroom?
01:20:06.000 Right?
01:20:06.000 Okay, let's get rid of that.
01:20:07.000 Now it's just, you got a bathroom, okay?
01:20:09.000 Men's room and women's room.
01:20:10.000 Everyone agreed.
01:20:11.000 Now the gender activists are going, whoa.
01:20:14.000 The same law that got rid of racial segregation should get rid of sexual discrimination as well.
01:20:18.000 Meaning, no more men's and women's room.
01:20:20.000 You just have bathrooms.
01:20:21.000 You can't discriminate on the basis of sex.
01:20:23.000 So courts have ruled that you can discriminate so long as you offer up an alternative to that group.
01:20:31.000 That way, it's not real discrimination because everyone has access to the same thing, which this is what we saw in the UC system in California.
01:20:38.000 Makes no sense because that literally means you can have a white bathroom and a black bathroom because both groups are getting a bathroom.
01:20:43.000 So now that the gender activists are arguing that the Civil Rights Act is hypocritical because it should completely get rid of sex segregated spaces.
01:20:53.000 They need to specify then it's not just about things you can't change about yourself.
01:20:58.000 Sexuality and race are completely different things.
01:21:01.000 Immutable differences.
01:21:02.000 You can't change your skin color, but you can change if you're a man or a woman in your brain.
01:21:07.000 It's not equal at all.
01:21:09.000 Well, the argument that they've made is the prerequisite for a protected civil right or protected group is immutability, except in the instance of religion, I suppose.
01:21:22.000 However, the argument falls down to how do you determine race then?
01:21:27.000 Because there's going to be some dude who looks as white as they come, and he's going to be one eighth or a quarter black or something.
01:21:33.000 And then people are going to say, you don't qualify, but he's going to on paper.
01:21:37.000 And then who gets to decide whether someone looks enough like the race?
01:21:41.000 So I think ultimately what's exposed by this is it's actually not the law.
01:21:47.000 It's the spirit and the intent of what the law was supposed to be.
01:21:50.000 And the Civil Rights Act was specifically about ending racial segregation.
01:21:53.000 So they did.
01:21:55.000 But now, you know, I'll use an example.
01:21:57.000 I'll use a different example.
01:21:59.000 When New York City banned public drinking, there was a quote from a councilman who said something like, let it be said, this law will never be construed to stop a man from having a beer while he's on lunch, you know, at work.
01:22:11.000 They were concerned about public drunkenness.
01:22:14.000 Where are we now?
01:22:15.000 Okay, if you're sitting on your porch in New York and you drink a beer, they will give you a ticket.
01:22:19.000 That was never what was intended to happen.
01:22:21.000 What happens is a generation or two goes by.
01:22:24.000 They read what the law says and they say, the law says what it says.
01:22:28.000 We're going to do it.
01:22:29.000 And now gender activists have been arguing that under the same law, you can't segregate based on sex because it violates the law the same way racial segregation was violated.
01:22:40.000 I would say that that's all been done on purpose and intentional.
01:22:43.000 And I don't want to take you through a long history lesson here that you probably already know, but you can go back to the dear colleague letter from the Obama administration and where they started changing Title IX then.
01:22:52.000 And they purposely used statewide organizations, especially with school districts and such, to make sure that gender identity was placed in state civil rights codes, in school district policies.
01:23:03.000 And I was part of that debate when I was running for school board in 2015 because our school district was adding gender identity to our non-discrimination policy.
01:23:11.000 It was happening all across the country during these same couple of years.
01:23:14.000 And I remember the school board because I went back just a couple years ago and went and re-watched it and replayed it because we had a specific school board member who said, I'm voting for this tonight because I just want to make sure our LGBTQ community is safe.
01:23:26.000 This is not about bathrooms because we had hundreds of pastors and speakers that were saying, this is going to lead to boys and girls' bathrooms and locker rooms.
01:23:32.000 This is horrible.
01:23:33.000 And they laughed at them and made fun of them.
01:23:34.000 And the school board member said, just like the drinking story you just said, this has nothing to do with locker rooms or bathrooms.
01:23:40.000 I would never vote for this if I thought a boy would be in a girls' bathroom.
01:23:43.000 And here we are, just a few years later, and it's all about boys and girls' bathrooms.
01:23:48.000 Yep.
01:23:49.000 Yep.
01:23:51.000 The idea that you can limit the government once you empower the government, that you can limit where they're going to apply whatever power they have.
01:24:01.000 That just doesn't work.
01:24:03.000 You have to think through it.
01:24:04.000 You have to see it through the end, and people don't do that.
01:24:06.000 It's unfortunate.
01:24:08.000 Are you seeing schools getting crazier now after Trump second term?
01:24:12.000 Or are they trying to get better?
01:24:14.000 Are you watching the news?
01:24:15.000 They are pushing back.
01:24:17.000 Yeah.
01:24:18.000 Yeah.
01:24:18.000 He writes an executive order that says no more boys and girls sports.
01:24:21.000 And there's whole states pushing Maine.
01:24:23.000 I mean, the whole states are pushing back and saying, you know, given the middle finger and fighting it.
01:24:27.000 Why aren't women refusing to compete?
01:24:32.000 Mostly, in our case, it's K-12 girls.
01:24:34.000 And some are.
01:24:35.000 You've seen over the last few weeks.
01:24:36.000 They're stepping off the podium.
01:24:38.000 Where are the parents?
01:24:40.000 You watch your daughter get up at 5 a.m.
01:24:41.000 every morning and work her tail off year after year after year.
01:24:45.000 And she wants to compete.
01:24:46.000 As a mom, I'm not going to tell my daughter she can't compete.
01:24:49.000 I would.
01:24:50.000 I mean, with all due respect, my child is new.
01:24:53.000 Four month old.
01:24:53.000 Right.
01:24:53.000 Four month old.
01:24:54.000 So I don't have that same experience.
01:24:56.000 But I genuinely believe that part of the problem is that women support it.
01:25:02.000 They may not literally support it in their minds, but they will speak out in support of it and they will push deep.
01:25:09.000 They will push down.
01:25:10.000 So I'll put it this way.
01:25:11.000 They may be thinking in their mind, this is so dumb.
01:25:13.000 Why is it so loud?
01:25:13.000 And then they'll come on and say, this is so beautiful and amazing.
01:25:17.000 And that perpetuates it.
01:25:18.000 If, like with most issues, if every parent just said, my daughter will not compete, it would be over in 10 minutes.
01:25:28.000 But every parent won't because there are parents that don't want to be shamed, don't want to be bullied, don't want to be attacked, and their children are following in their footsteps.
01:25:35.000 But I think courage is bringing on more courage.
01:25:39.000 We're seeing more and more girls step up or step off the podium for the award ceremony.
01:25:43.000 And I think that's going to continue.
01:25:45.000 And Moms for Liberty is going to be in this fight the entire way.
01:25:49.000 We have filed numerous lawsuits.
01:25:51.000 We've started collecting.
01:25:52.000 So, one of the executive orders was that the, or the Department of Education put a portal on their website so some of these complaints could be filed there.
01:26:02.000 And then there was a federal injunction that they had to take it down.
01:26:04.000 And so, what we've started doing is collecting them on our own so that we can submit them as a whole without the portal that's got the injunction against it.
01:26:11.000 And we've collected over 150 claims so far to answer your question.
01:26:16.000 Is it still going on?
01:26:17.000 Yeah, and that's only been pushed out to our chapter leaders.
01:26:19.000 We haven't even opened it up nationwide yet.
01:26:20.000 I'm imagining we'll have thousands the minute we do.
01:26:23.000 Like, I imagine it's going to get worse because they're trying to rebel against Trump, right?
01:26:27.000 Like, I taught at a college for many, many years, and every semester they would get more deranged.
01:26:32.000 How much do you think to Sheen's point?
01:26:34.000 How much is it true belief in what they're talking about?
01:26:38.000 And how much of it is just, you know, I'm mad at Trump because Trump's my dad and I'm mad at dad.
01:26:45.000 Like, because there's got to be a significant portion of people that will just push back because it's the right, because it's Trump, without putting any thought into the actual issues at hand.
01:26:55.000 Do you well, we know from polling, all kinds of polling from all different organizations.
01:27:00.000 This is polling about 80%.
01:27:02.000 So 80% of America does not want boys and girls sports.
01:27:06.000 And yet you've got whole states that are pushing back against that, entire universities, entire school districts.
01:27:11.000 And so that would tell me that those in power are playing a political game.
01:27:17.000 Yeah, it's not like all the students at the college are deciding it.
01:27:20.000 It's the administration and who's running the administration making that decision.
01:27:24.000 Yeah, colleges, you know, I'm not as familiar with because we don't really dive into that a ton, but I see what I see on the news just like you guys too.
01:27:30.000 There's an awful lot of radical liberals on our campuses right now.
01:27:33.000 The reason I feel so hopeful, and I am in an echo chamber in a bubble, but is Riley Gaines.
01:27:37.000 It's people like Riley Gaines that are like, this girl is like a movie star, like a, like she appeared like a hero in a movie and just is like fitting this position inevitably.
01:27:48.000 Simone Biles deleted her X account.
01:27:50.000 She had like 2 million followers.
01:27:51.000 Isn't that fabulous?
01:27:52.000 I mean, not that she deleted her X account, who cares?
01:27:55.000 But that.
01:27:56.000 She backed down and ran away.
01:27:57.000 Yeah, truth spoken to her and once called out on it.
01:28:00.000 What's an 80-20 issue?
01:28:02.000 When you look at the Pew research on every metric, support for transits has declined.
01:28:09.000 And I would call it like opposition to these movement has been increasing, even among Democrats, every demographic.
01:28:18.000 And then it was very strange for Simone Biles to come out insulting wrongly Riley Gaines, accusing her of being 5'10, which was really weird.
01:28:26.000 Like, this is the problem with the cults, okay?
01:28:31.000 Dave Portnoy met up with, was it Steve Doocy, I think, on Fox and Friends?
01:28:36.000 And you know what they did?
01:28:37.000 He stood side by side with Doocy, and he was like, this is what they do.
01:28:41.000 They call me short.
01:28:41.000 Watch this.
01:28:42.000 Stand there.
01:28:43.000 How tall are you, Ducey?
01:28:43.000 He's like 5'10, 5'1.
01:28:44.000 Watch, they stand next to each other in the same height.
01:28:46.000 And he's like, they're all trying to claim that I'm short because that's what they do.
01:28:49.000 And he's right.
01:28:50.000 It's what they do.
01:28:51.000 Activists go online and they say Ben Shapiro is short.
01:28:54.000 Ben Shapiro is not short.
01:28:55.000 I think he's like 5'8.
01:28:56.000 So technically slightly below average or whatever.
01:28:59.000 But 5'9 is average.
01:29:02.000 So Ben being 5'8 is only technically short.
01:29:04.000 You'd meet him and you go, oh, he's actually like not short.
01:29:08.000 They claim that I'm short.
01:29:09.000 And then people are like, oh, I thought you were short.
01:29:11.000 I'm like, I'm like 5'10, 5'11-ish.
01:29:14.000 When they watch this video of me skating, they're like, Tim actually looks very big.
01:29:18.000 And they also claim in the inverse, Riley Gaines is massive and manly and masculine, and she should have won.
01:29:25.000 They do this because they want to create in the minds of cultists, in the case of Riley Gaines, she's just as big as Leah Thomas.
01:29:34.000 That's why they tied.
01:29:36.000 And then in reality, you're like, Riley Gaines is what, 5'5?
01:29:38.000 I'm like that, 5'5.
01:29:39.000 But that's why Simone genuinely believed that Riley was massive because they intentionally lied to confuse the issue.
01:29:45.000 And Simone is so little, like, Riley does seem gigantic to her because Simone Biles is like 4'10 or something like that.
01:29:52.000 4'11.
01:29:52.000 She's really small.
01:29:53.000 Not really?
01:29:53.000 Simone Biles is very small.
01:29:55.000 Did she delete her account because she was ashamed that she'd been spouting the misinformation?
01:30:00.000 4'8.
01:30:01.000 I doubt it.
01:30:01.000 Whoa.
01:30:02.000 4'8?
01:30:02.000 That little?
01:30:03.000 4'8.
01:30:04.000 So, you know, like, Riley's almost a foot taller than her.
01:30:08.000 5'8, 5'10, 6'.
01:30:09.000 It's all the same when you're 10. 4'8, right?
01:30:11.000 Seriously, man.
01:30:12.000 It'd be a cool culture where to get those two on.
01:30:14.000 Wow.
01:30:15.000 I haven't really been following the drama with them.
01:30:18.000 What exactly happened?
01:30:19.000 I didn't see it at all.
01:30:20.000 Twitter beef.
01:30:22.000 She told Riley to pick on someone her own size, which ironically would be a man.
01:30:26.000 Oh, okay.
01:30:27.000 And that's the point.
01:30:29.000 Riley Gaines is 5'5 ⁇ .
01:30:31.000 She's the average woman height.
01:30:33.000 But Simone is probably told by all these activists, she's this massive woman who's mad that she tied to a man who was the same size as her.
01:30:43.000 But then she doubled down and was supporting men and women's sports.
01:30:47.000 And so everybody started piling on and said, as a female athlete, how can you do this?
01:30:52.000 And so I don't know why she ultimately shut her account down.
01:30:55.000 Because it's an 80-20 issue and she was probably her Q rating was shattering.
01:31:01.000 Trump won the popular vote.
01:31:03.000 And the most effective thing, according to, I think like the New York Times and Wall Street Journal, they ran this.
01:31:07.000 Trump's gender advertising, when they said Kamala is for they, them, Trump is for you, was one of the most effective ad campaigns that Trump supporters ran.
01:31:16.000 Simone Biles comes out on the other side of an 80-20 issue.
01:31:19.000 Her phone was probably lit up with people saying, you're wrong, you're wrong, you're wrong.
01:31:25.000 And then the worst thing was she had an AI-generated apology.
01:31:28.000 At least I think it's reasonable to conclude it was AI.
01:31:31.000 It used the, what is it called?
01:31:34.000 The brackets?
01:31:35.000 Not the brackets, the dashes, M dashes.
01:31:37.000 Yeah, okay.
01:31:38.000 No one writing something online uses M dashes.
01:31:41.000 I do.
01:31:41.000 What's M dashes?
01:31:42.000 It's when you look at a long dash for me.
01:31:45.000 You never see it.
01:31:45.000 You never see it.
01:31:46.000 It's a dash.
01:31:47.000 A longer dash.
01:31:48.000 Instead of using a colon or a semicolon, you break up the subject or whatever with a long dash.
01:31:55.000 Nobody does that.
01:31:56.000 AI does that.
01:31:58.000 So when she published this, people were like, a PR firm used ChatGPT to generate an apology and posted it.
01:32:05.000 And then everyone attacked her like crazy.
01:32:07.000 Made things worse.
01:32:08.000 And you know what probably happened?
01:32:09.000 She probably then went to an actual PR firm and they said, stop pouring gas on the fire.
01:32:14.000 Delete your account.
01:32:15.000 I feel like that's more gas.
01:32:17.000 She could turn it back on.
01:32:18.000 no, no, instead of walking away and not doing anything.
01:32:20.000 Technically, you're right, but I think she probably got rid of it because her phone was just constantly going blowing up.
01:32:26.000 You got to deactivate.
01:32:26.000 You can't use it anymore.
01:32:27.000 With the sports thing with the men and women sports, I think there's two things that are happening at once.
01:32:34.000 There's the fairness of it, like having a six-foot dude that is taking chemicals and wearing a wig and just beating on a girl or blowing past her in the pool, obviously is bizarre in some ways to a lot of people.
01:32:46.000 That's happening.
01:32:47.000 But then there's the whole trans thing that happened over the last 10 years, like Chloe Cole.
01:32:52.000 When she was, I think, 14, she transitioned to a boy, had her breasts removed, and then she woke up and realized, what the fuck is going?
01:32:59.000 What have these people told me?
01:33:00.000 What have these doctors done to me?
01:33:02.000 And now she travels the world explaining what she's gone through.
01:33:04.000 And all these kids are waking up and realizing they're okay.
01:33:08.000 You are.
01:33:08.000 You are you.
01:33:09.000 As I was explaining earlier about my daughter who a burp was the worst experience she's ever had because she's a baby.
01:33:16.000 A 14 year old is also limited in their experiences and don't understand.
01:33:21.000 That's why we protect children.
01:33:22.000 I took it for granted, man.
01:33:23.000 I had Mr. Rogers and he who told me stuff that my parents had told me, you're okay just who you are.
01:33:28.000 That's okay.
01:33:30.000 And I just don't, I just took it for granted that everyone, I thought everyone was told that.
01:33:33.000 Yeah, but now, you know, I'm really, really freaked out and disgusted by Coco Melon and Miss Rachel and stuff like this.
01:33:41.000 It is nightmare dystopia level stuff.
01:33:44.000 I mean, I feel like if you went back 20 years and not maybe go to the 90s, go to the early 90s and make a film where in the future, when a baby cries, the parent takes a stone crying stone and puts it in front of the baby and presses play.
01:34:00.000 And a woman just stares at her and goes, oh, they'd be like, this is a nightmare.
01:34:05.000 What is going on?
01:34:06.000 And it's like, in the year 2025, parents no longer look at their kids.
01:34:11.000 The machine teaches your children.
01:34:14.000 And then it's not just Coco Melon and Miss Rachel.
01:34:17.000 A lot of this kids programming is deranged.
01:34:21.000 Like, now we can talk about El Segate and all the really weird stuff, but even the general kids stuff where it's like counting and it's some like fat, disgusting guy who's like barking and making strange sounds and then like hitting things with hammers.
01:34:33.000 I'm like, parents are putting this in front of their kids.
01:34:36.000 Their brains will be turned to jello.
01:34:38.000 It's crazy to me that there's popular channels for kids to watch other kids open up toys and play with them.
01:34:44.000 Yep.
01:34:44.000 That is so crazy.
01:34:45.000 And they're like millions and millions of views.
01:34:46.000 That's huge.
01:34:47.000 It's because parents don't want to watch their kids.
01:34:50.000 Yeah, they've outsourced it to everything, public schools to YouTube.
01:34:53.000 Well, this happened today as well.
01:34:56.000 My daughter started crying because she wanted to watch The Five.
01:35:00.000 She wanted to watch.
01:35:02.000 Jean Shapiro's not on anymore, right?
01:35:04.000 Jean Shapiro?
01:35:06.000 She's not on anymore.
01:35:07.000 And your daughter's not going to be able to do it.
01:35:08.000 No, she loves Gutfeld.
01:35:09.000 Oh, Gutfeld, okay.
01:35:10.000 And so she's crying.
01:35:12.000 And then, you know, my wife is like, you know, what's wrong?
01:35:15.000 And she burps her.
01:35:16.000 And then when she holds her down, she looks straight up at the TV and then stops crying.
01:35:21.000 And my wife's like, absolutely not.
01:35:22.000 Yeah, that happened to me when I was four with the Atari.
01:35:24.000 I remember my cats died and I was crying.
01:35:26.000 And I came in, I sat down and played Atari and immediately stopped crying.
01:35:29.000 I was like, I'm not sad.
01:35:30.000 And I remember as a four-year-old thinking, if I'm ever sad, I can play video games and it'll go away.
01:35:35.000 This is a true story, by the way.
01:35:36.000 When Jesse Waters is on the screen, my daughter cries.
01:35:40.000 It's not just Jesse, it's everybody.
01:35:42.000 When Greg is on, she stops and she just stares.
01:35:44.000 I was going to just interface.
01:35:45.000 I think we're hearing who you like and don't like through your daughter.
01:35:50.000 I think Jesse Waters is fantastic.
01:35:51.000 And I think the Cast of the Five is all fantastic, except for Tarlov.
01:35:55.000 She is the absolute worst.
01:35:58.000 She goes on the five and she's like, did you see, and her mouth shakes side.
01:36:02.000 Like, what is up, Jessica?
01:36:03.000 What is up with the, I hope you're listening.
01:36:05.000 Have you noticed liberals, when they talk, their mouth goes like this?
01:36:09.000 Destiny like that.
01:36:10.000 Talking like this.
01:36:11.000 And their mouth swings left and right when they're talking.
01:36:13.000 I'm like, why is their jaw doing that?
01:36:14.000 Adderall.
01:36:16.000 It's called meth mouth.
01:36:17.000 It's Adderall.
01:36:17.000 I don't know if she does that.
01:36:18.000 But anyway, I digress.
01:36:19.000 I'm not trying to rag on her for the way her mouth moves.
01:36:21.000 She says, Donald Trump's polling is now minus 16. It's so awful.
01:36:26.000 And I'm like, every single day, the first thing we do is I pull up the aggregate of polling ratings for Trump on all of the issues as well as Congress.
01:36:36.000 And I check those every day.
01:36:37.000 Trump's actually been doing fairly well, slightly down.
01:36:41.000 When you track across all polls, he's gone down a little bit across all the metrics, but he's chilling slightly below the margin of error, maybe around like minus four in aggregate.
01:36:49.000 It's hard to know.
01:36:50.000 She goes on TV and just says this, and I'm like, where's Jesse or anyone else to tell her she's wrong?
01:36:55.000 To be like, that is incorrect.
01:36:57.000 You've cherry-picked a random poll, which we call static.
01:37:01.000 These people, these liberals, will wait until one poll gives a swing result and then go, oh, look how bad Trump is doing.
01:37:08.000 And then if you actually track all the polls, you're like, Trump's down 0.3.
01:37:12.000 It's not even that big of a big deal.
01:37:14.000 An AI that is like an overlay on news that is constantly criticizing the newscaster and saying, this is right, this is wrong.
01:37:21.000 You can't trust the AI.
01:37:23.000 It's like asking fact checkers.
01:37:25.000 That's true too, but like an open source product that you could apply to your Roku or something.
01:37:29.000 You could definitely use it as a tool.
01:37:30.000 You get that by watching streamers like Twitch.
01:37:32.000 And as we just mentioned earlier, current versions of ChatGPT and Grok does this way worse.
01:37:38.000 They make things up.
01:37:39.000 100%.
01:37:40.000 The crazy thing is Grok makes fake URLs.
01:37:42.000 I haven't seen that.
01:37:43.000 Yeah.
01:37:44.000 I asked it for a news story and it said, here's a story about this thing.
01:37:47.000 It gave me a link and I clicked it and it said, cannot find this story.
01:37:50.000 So it looks like it's been deleted.
01:37:52.000 But Grok was telling me a story happened that never happened using a fake link to a real website.
01:37:57.000 That's crazy.
01:37:58.000 Did Elon say some mean things to Grok this weekend or something?
01:38:03.000 Grok said that the right is more violent than the left.
01:38:05.000 And he responded, that's objectively false.
01:38:07.000 We're going to fix it.
01:38:08.000 It is objectively false.
01:38:09.000 That's good.
01:38:10.000 So what happens is the right is not organized.
01:38:14.000 The right doesn't understand why protests are important.
01:38:17.000 Protests are important for one reason.
01:38:19.000 When a liberal opens their app and they see 500 people protesting and they're told the whole world has risen up, their brain sees a massive crowd and goes, wow, it's everyone.
01:38:32.000 And then it's this tiny little group.
01:38:34.000 They think they are the majority because they see a group of people on the screen.
01:38:39.000 So when the right doesn't protest and doesn't organize, people on the left don't see this and they just think, but nobody supports the right.
01:38:46.000 It's always the left.
01:38:48.000 I think you can take that further and elected officials will vote one way or another depending on the amount of people they see rise up or on social media.
01:38:56.000 How many postcards they get?
01:38:57.000 Yeah, well, I mean, I saw that.
01:38:58.000 I served on school board 2016 to 2020 after Parkland.
01:39:02.000 And we were just two districts north of that.
01:39:04.000 And we were voting on arming staff to protect schools.
01:39:08.000 And for weeks, Mom's Demand Action came in and Red for Ed came in in their red shirts, thousands of them.
01:39:13.000 All the things laying on the ground, tombstones, ketchup on them, or killing them because we wanted armed security in our schools.
01:39:19.000 But we stood as an entire board and superintendent, who he was a Democrat.
01:39:24.000 We had a, I think, a Democrat on the board, an independent, something like that.
01:39:27.000 A mix of people, mostly conservative, but others too.
01:39:30.000 And we stood in a press conference publicly and said we were going to support arming staff.
01:39:34.000 Period, end of story.
01:39:35.000 We're going to vote on this.
01:39:36.000 We're bringing it for debate in one meeting and we're going to vote on the next meeting.
01:39:39.000 After about six weeks of mom's demand action and Red Fred showing up in their red shirts, last man standing was me, the only one that voted for it on the night because of all the theatrics, because of all the protests.
01:39:52.000 I live in a 60% red community that absolutely supported it, but they didn't come out to speak or to show up.
01:39:58.000 Oh, because they were intimidated?
01:40:00.000 I don't think they were intimidated.
01:40:02.000 I think they were emotionally swayed.
01:40:04.000 I watched it happen one by one.
01:40:06.000 It just cave.
01:40:08.000 What's worse, actually?
01:40:10.000 I didn't know I never want to give anybody credit for starting Moms for Liberty, but I experienced that and I saw that.
01:40:18.000 And so when I wanted to create a group to represent conservative values, to be impactful in school and policies that affect children and families and parental rights, what am I going to do?
01:40:31.000 Well, we're going to have blue shirts.
01:40:32.000 We're not going to have red shirts.
01:40:33.000 We're going to do the same type of thing because there's no counter pushback.
01:40:36.000 There's nobody else protesting from our side because we don't.
01:40:39.000 David Hogg show up.
01:40:40.000 David Hogg went after me on Twitter at the time a ton during that time period.
01:40:45.000 Yeah.
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01:41:29.000 Sailor Motico says Dave Smith's career only casualty in the U.S. career only casualty in U.S.-Iran war.
01:41:37.000 Dave Smith's career is the only casualty in the war?
01:41:39.000 Oh, I see.
01:41:40.000 Dave Smith's career.
01:41:41.000 Dave Smith is a North Star.
01:41:43.000 I can't speak for him, but he's been principled and direct and honest and just essentially saying the same things for at least five years since I've ever known him.
01:41:53.000 I've never seen him oscillate.
01:41:55.000 He's probably learns new information and integrates it, but the guy's like, I mean, about as legit of a speaker as you can have.
01:42:01.000 So I'm not sure, I don't quite understand that.
01:42:03.000 All right.
01:42:04.000 Barry N. McGrowan says those 72 virgins must be getting old by now.
01:42:07.000 They all must be in nursing homes by now.
01:42:09.000 It's 72-year-old virgins.
01:42:13.000 Let's go.
01:42:14.000 I think Family Guy made the joke that they were all male nerds.
01:42:17.000 Yeah.
01:42:18.000 The guy goes to heaven and it's a bunch of dorky guys being like, we're playing Dungeons and Dragons.
01:42:21.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:42:22.000 D&D everywhere.
01:42:23.000 D&D everywhere.
01:42:24.000 Sheergal says, can you add a sneak attack counter for the entertainment to the chat?
01:42:30.000 attack.
01:42:31.000 Trump did launch.
01:42:33.000 I disagree in a sense.
01:42:37.000 I guess it's fair to say negotiations ended, and Trump said he may or may not do it.
01:42:41.000 So that's technically not a sneak attack.
01:42:43.000 If he had said, we're not going to strike, let's get back to the negotiating table, and then did it.
01:42:47.000 So it's half?
01:42:48.000 Oh, well, I think it was a full-on sneak attack.
01:42:51.000 They sent bombers out west to get them off the trail.
01:42:55.000 That's not a sneak, though.
01:42:55.000 That's a decoy.
01:42:57.000 Oh, not necessarily.
01:42:58.000 So sneak attack, it's a deceptive attack.
01:42:59.000 However you want to call it.
01:43:00.000 I mean, it's.
01:43:01.000 Sneak attack implying it was done in secret to deceive them.
01:43:04.000 You told them.
01:43:05.000 They don't see them.
01:43:05.000 He said, I may or may not do it.
01:43:07.000 I will make a decision within two weeks.
01:43:08.000 And then he did it.
01:43:09.000 He also gave them 60 days and started attacking after this on the 61st day.
01:43:14.000 And he'd also been saying that Iran can't have a nuclear weapon since like 2011.
01:43:19.000 So it's not really a shock.
01:43:21.000 There's warning.
01:43:22.000 There were signs.
01:43:23.000 All right.
01:43:23.000 Pinochet says, Tim, you asked what determines what sends someone to South Sudan.
01:43:26.000 You need to understand what someone did to have to be sent to South Sudan and then shown the door.
01:43:31.000 I imagine it's bad.
01:43:33.000 It's Flying says, Trump's greatest gift is to make people realize that they have to talk to one another.
01:43:39.000 I don't know.
01:43:40.000 I got friends who are liberals and they are going cult.
01:43:45.000 Dude, it's like a lot of my friends are soothing, and there's a few of my friends that are like, it's getting, I don't know.
01:43:52.000 I haven't seen them in so long.
01:43:54.000 Like, the conversation has become so, I don't want to manifest this horror.
01:43:57.000 You know, I don't want to make it worse than it could be because it could be great.
01:44:00.000 But I feel what you're saying.
01:44:02.000 Peter Shay says, the people sent to South Sudan are guilty of heinous crimes where they are from, as well as what they did here.
01:44:07.000 Most already serve time in our jails.
01:44:10.000 They can't stay here in Sudan.
01:44:12.000 They are released.
01:44:13.000 Interesting.
01:44:14.000 I'm going to head out, guys.
01:44:16.000 All right.
01:44:16.000 Shane Catchman.
01:44:17.000 Shane Catchman.
01:44:18.000 Good seeing you.
01:44:19.000 I love you.
01:44:19.000 Where can everybody find you?
01:44:20.000 You can find me at Shane Catchman everywhere online.
01:44:22.000 The show is Inverted World Live, YouTube, Rumble.
01:44:24.000 The phone lines will be open from 10 to 12 tonight, Monday through Thursday.
01:44:28.000 We'll see you guys there.
01:44:29.000 Thank you for having me.
01:44:29.000 Everyone can call.
01:44:30.000 Everyone can call.
01:44:31.000 How many callers do you get through per night?
01:44:33.000 Depends on how many questions we get through in a story.
01:44:35.000 On average, between.
01:44:36.000 Do you have a serial killer called in?
01:44:38.000 I mean, it's possible.
01:44:40.000 The guy in Austin?
01:44:42.000 No.
01:44:43.000 They're worried about one in New England.
01:44:44.000 Yeah.
01:44:44.000 Really?
01:44:45.000 I heard there's a serial killer in Austin who kills gay dudes.
01:44:47.000 Yeah, they find him in the river there, yeah.
01:44:51.000 They think someone's drugging.
01:44:52.000 There was a story where a guy said he went to a bar and he had someone get, he was not a gay guy.
01:44:56.000 He got drugged off his drink and someone tried pushing him over and then he was able to get away or someone stopped it.
01:45:03.000 Someone keeps saving him.
01:45:04.000 There's someone who was saved out of the river, right?
01:45:05.000 Whoa.
01:45:06.000 Yeah, I don't know.
01:45:07.000 Lindsay Graham, be careful in Austin.
01:45:09.000 What's the topic?
01:45:09.000 Do you have a topic for the show tonight?
01:45:11.000 I'm going to talk about a giant eyeball falling out of the sky and some UFOs.
01:45:16.000 That giant steel UFO they found?
01:45:18.000 Yeah.
01:45:18.000 Yeah.
01:45:19.000 It might be part of a weather antenna, but we'll find out later.
01:45:22.000 Really?
01:45:22.000 Spoiler alert.
01:45:23.000 Interdimensional SASQ.
01:45:24.000 See you guys.
01:45:24.000 All right.
01:45:25.000 See you later.
01:45:25.000 See you later, man.
01:45:26.000 Nice to meet you.
01:45:28.000 All right.
01:45:29.000 I was talking to Thomas Massey earlier and I said, you know, because he was like, he doesn't want to vote for the Big Beautiful Bill.
01:45:34.000 And I was like, yeah, but they got the Short Act and the Hearing Protection Act.
01:45:37.000 And then he was like, he jokingly said, you know, maybe if they repeal the NFA, I'd vote for it or something.
01:45:43.000 And I'm like, do it.
01:45:45.000 Massey, when Trump calls and says, I want you to vote on the bill, say, repeal the NFA and I'll do it.
01:45:53.000 Yeah.
01:45:53.000 Like the good outweighs the bad.
01:45:55.000 Come on, let's go.
01:45:56.000 Absolutely.
01:45:57.000 That was a good interview you guys did today.
01:45:59.000 30 minutes on your channel?
01:46:00.000 Yeah, I just talked about it.
01:46:01.000 Massey.
01:46:02.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
01:46:03.000 Very familiar.
01:46:04.000 You think he would?
01:46:04.000 You think he'd compromise on it if he could get the NFA repeat?
01:46:07.000 If repealing the NFA is so big, man.
01:46:11.000 I don't know if he actually would, but.
01:46:14.000 Do you know what the NFA is?
01:46:15.000 National Firearms Act.
01:46:16.000 Yeah.
01:46:17.000 Yeah.
01:46:18.000 Vaguely familiar.
01:46:19.000 Yeah, it should be repealed.
01:46:20.000 Makes no sense.
01:46:21.000 There was a photo of an ICE officer with a rifle and had a suppressor on it.
01:46:27.000 And all these liberals are like, why does an ICE agent need a silencer?
01:46:31.000 There's only one reason.
01:46:33.000 Because they literally don't know anything about guns.
01:46:36.000 It's like, guys, it's not going to go pew, pew, pew.
01:46:38.000 It's going to go bang, bang, bang, but it will be safer for everybody.
01:46:43.000 They don't get it.
01:46:43.000 They don't get it.
01:46:44.000 They watch too many movies.
01:46:47.000 I posted that picture and I was like, this is just safety equipment.
01:46:50.000 It got like a million reactions.
01:46:52.000 Disgruntled vet says, my two deployments in Iraq, it taught me an important thing.
01:46:56.000 Muslims respect power and see compassion as weakness.
01:46:59.000 P.S., please make a civil war board.
01:47:01.000 What is that?
01:47:02.000 A civil war board?
01:47:05.000 Board game?
01:47:06.000 What is that?
01:47:07.000 A board game?
01:47:07.000 Like an Advent calendar?
01:47:09.000 Advent.
01:47:10.000 Through the countdown to the Civil War.
01:47:12.000 And inside there's like, you know, like things to make homemade weapons.
01:47:17.000 Things that are happening that are moving us closer to the war, you would move them in place.
01:47:21.000 Oh, right.
01:47:22.000 Yeah, Tom Billie said when a nation's, what is it, debt to GDP ratio gets 130?
01:47:26.000 And we're at like 122 and it's rapidly.
01:47:31.000 128, is it?
01:47:31.000 I don't know.
01:47:32.000 He says that's when they collapse or what?
01:47:34.000 That's when Civil War usually breaks out in a country.
01:47:38.000 122.
01:47:39.000 He's talking about something that Ray Dalyu probably said.
01:47:41.000 We desperately need to resolve this economic system, but I think it's.
01:47:44.000 Well, there's the other concern that the Pentagon warned of an Iranian cyber attack.
01:47:48.000 Yeah.
01:47:48.000 So, of course, some people are genuinely like, I think Iran's going to hit our grid.
01:47:53.000 Then there are people saying the U.S. is going to intentionally sabotage the grid as a justification for going to war.
01:47:58.000 Oh, didn't they take out a bunch of Iranian Bitcoin?
01:48:01.000 Crypto in general.
01:48:02.000 So do you have your Bitcoin and cold storage off the web yet?
01:48:05.000 Because it might be a good idea.
01:48:06.000 Might be a good idea.
01:48:07.000 That's the crazy thing about crypto.
01:48:09.000 Get your keys.
01:48:10.000 Like someone robs a bank and steals all the gold, your money's gone.
01:48:13.000 I got something called a ledger where I can plug it in my computer and get my keys local so they're not on like Binance.
01:48:19.000 I hold a lot of my crypto local smart.
01:48:22.000 Technically, it's still online.
01:48:23.000 I just have the keys local.
01:48:25.000 Yeah.
01:48:25.000 Well, I mean, that's the way it works.
01:48:28.000 All right.
01:48:29.000 Ready to Rumble says, Tim is delusional thinking around can push a button that will cost the U.S. billions.
01:48:33.000 Why haven't they, Tim?
01:48:34.000 You are fake news.
01:48:36.000 You are fake news.
01:48:37.000 No, you're fake news.
01:48:38.000 You know, who are you, huh?
01:48:40.000 Just coming in here.
01:48:41.000 Call each other names.
01:48:42.000 Why haven't they?
01:48:43.000 Because for the same reason, people who have hostages tend not to shoot them.
01:48:48.000 Because once you get rid of your hostage, you have no leverage.
01:48:51.000 The U.S. actually has real concerns that Iran has infiltrated industrial control systems in the U.S. and we don't know where.
01:48:57.000 The likelihood that every adversarial nation has infiltrated every other nation's industrial control systems, I'd say is 100%.
01:49:05.000 Much of the industrial control systems that we have in the United States are operating off software from 1970.
01:49:10.000 And so it's a few lines of code that can be easily broken into.
01:49:15.000 They've been over the past 15 or so years updating, but we're talking about something like 70,000 facilities across the United States.
01:49:22.000 And so they can shut down water.
01:49:24.000 They can shut down electricity.
01:49:25.000 They can do all those things.
01:49:26.000 Why haven't they yet?
01:49:28.000 It's like asking, what, you really think the U.S. can press a button and fire 12 nuclear warheads?
01:49:35.000 Why haven't they?
01:49:36.000 Why hasn't the U.S. nuked Israel?
01:49:38.000 I mean, sorry, nuked Iran.
01:49:42.000 But so the argument then is that the U.S. doesn't have the capability to use nukes because the U.S. has never done it?
01:49:48.000 No.
01:49:48.000 It's because if Iran needs to, they could.
01:49:50.000 Russia could too.
01:49:52.000 And I'll reiterate the whole wiping your Bitcoin to zero tactic is not going after a government's money.
01:49:57.000 It's the American people's money.
01:49:58.000 So protect your assets, too.
01:50:00.000 Alex Delbus is Alex Jones, Luke Berdkowski, The Hodgkins, Candace Owens, Nick Fuentez, Elijah Schaefer, MTG, Dave Smith, Tucker, Bannon, and others owe Trump a huge apology.
01:50:09.000 Agreed.
01:50:10.000 I as well.
01:50:12.000 I have no issue with being wrong.
01:50:13.000 In fact, I beg, I hope, and I pray that I was completely wrong about everything because we all have trauma from the Iraq and Afghanistan wars.
01:50:21.000 So when we see the escalation of conflict with Iran and we see the statements of people like Bolton and other neocons who have been calling for regime change and then Trump truths out, regime change?
01:50:31.000 Maybe?
01:50:32.000 We're all kind of like, holy crap, is it happening?
01:50:35.000 If this ceasefire sticks and the war ends, then Trump will have hit a grand slam and I have no problem saying I was wrong and thank God I was.
01:50:43.000 Yeah, just the ability, just because people are predicting, hey, this is what I think is going to happen, doesn't mean that that's what you want to happen.
01:50:49.000 And a lot of people behave as if it is.
01:50:51.000 It's like, oh, you said this.
01:50:53.000 It's like, well, I was wrong and everybody's better for it.
01:50:58.000 Templar Brethren says, Teddy Roosevelt, speak softly, but carry a big stick.
01:51:02.000 You will go far.
01:51:03.000 Seems close to what Trump has been doing recently.
01:51:05.000 Indeed.
01:51:05.000 I think Trump's intention with the we're going to think about it and then bombing them very much is a Trump has no problem pressing the button.
01:51:15.000 If it were Biden as president, Iran would have been like, screw yourself.
01:51:19.000 They have no fear.
01:51:21.000 Not only do they think he wouldn't do it, but he'd be incapable of organizing and leading if that was the case.
01:51:26.000 Not Trump.
01:51:28.000 Trump probably called him up afterward and says, you want to play chicken?
01:51:31.000 We'll play chicken and I'll press the button every time.
01:51:33.000 Who the president is actually matters.
01:51:36.000 And that's something that the left doesn't seem to believe.
01:51:39.000 They think that they can, just so long as they, or they can put anyone in that seat and the results will be the same.
01:51:45.000 But that's just patently false.
01:51:47.000 That is not true at all.
01:51:49.000 Also, the Secretary of Defense, like Lloyd Austin, he's like 80 or something.
01:51:52.000 He went on vacation and didn't tell anybody went AWA.
01:51:55.000 Went on medical leave and didn't tell anyone.
01:51:57.000 That's an A wall.
01:51:57.000 He went AWOL.
01:51:58.000 And this old guy went A wall.
01:52:00.000 That was our defense commander.
01:52:02.000 So now we got a real warrior training with the troops in the morning, leading the department.
01:52:06.000 So that's another.
01:52:07.000 And it goes along with their entire ideology.
01:52:10.000 If you think about it, everyone is the same.
01:52:12.000 Everyone is equal.
01:52:13.000 There is no real strong leader.
01:52:14.000 There's no one smarter than anyone else.
01:52:16.000 So why does it matter who's president or the secretary of defense if we're all the same?
01:52:20.000 I wouldn't be surprised if Trump got on the phone with Iran right after the bombing and said, the next one's a nuke, and then just hung up.
01:52:26.000 And then they're probably like, ugh.
01:52:28.000 Because Trump famously said he called Putin and Xi and said, to Putin, if you invade Ukraine, I'll nuke Moscow.
01:52:35.000 And he's like, I don't know if he believed me, maybe 5%, but it's enough.
01:52:38.000 Same thing with Xi and Beijing.
01:52:40.000 You move into Taiwan, I will nuke Beijing.
01:52:44.000 They talk about back-channel communication, which I imagine means there's a whole other level of comms happening right now between nations that is not appearing on the news.
01:52:53.000 Well, yeah, there's like a lot of times you'll talk to like, so one country won't talk to another, like the U.S. and Iran.
01:53:00.000 Maybe they don't have a specific direct connection, but they'll both talk to Qatar.
01:53:05.000 So the U.S. can tell people.
01:53:06.000 That's what happened.
01:53:07.000 Yeah, exactly.
01:53:08.000 So like the U.S. talked to Qatar and Iran talked to Qatar and there's like, okay, the U.S. And then Iran fired missiles at Qatar.
01:53:15.000 Yeah.
01:53:15.000 They warned that they were about to do it.
01:53:17.000 They fired as a kind of.
01:53:18.000 Did they actually warn they were about to do it or was Trump just being cheeky?
01:53:21.000 Oh, maybe they're pretty sure.
01:53:22.000 Trump said because of the advanced notice, he might have just been saying, your missiles are shite.
01:53:28.000 You know what I mean?
01:53:28.000 I was under the impression that they actually did notify the Qataris, but.
01:53:32.000 Well, then they're a bunch of losers because Iran's like, oh, no, U.S. attacked us.
01:53:38.000 We're going to fire six missiles that will be easily intercepted.
01:53:40.000 And then we're done.
01:53:40.000 War's over.
01:53:41.000 The Iranians don't know that.
01:53:42.000 The people inside of Iran.
01:53:44.000 Right.
01:53:45.000 They think they retaliated.
01:53:46.000 Exactly.
01:53:46.000 So to them, they'll just be like, well, this is what happened.
01:53:48.000 And then they're going to come out of the news and say, we successfully dealt this amount of damage.
01:53:52.000 Absolutely.
01:53:52.000 Yeah.
01:53:53.000 Those damn Jews, and we fought off the Americans.
01:53:56.000 And yeah, you know, there were some casualties, but nothing that the Iranian regime.
01:54:02.000 The great Satan and the little Satan.
01:54:04.000 Don't worry.
01:54:05.000 The righteous Iranian regime will persevere.
01:54:11.000 Jordan Sturtevan says all the pundits attacking MAGA who disagreed with the Iran strikes are actively damaging the movement.
01:54:17.000 Many view this as a violation of America First and attacking them for its a losing strategy.
01:54:23.000 I agree.
01:54:24.000 Really?
01:54:24.000 Well, Trump went after Massey hard.
01:54:27.000 And Massey was saying he's doing that for the other reps, not necessarily for him, because he's tried priming him before.
01:54:32.000 But Massey's massively powerful.
01:54:34.000 He wants to make an example out of Thomas Massey that if anyone else steps out of line, that they're going to get the Massey treatment.
01:54:38.000 I think, though, him, I just still, I still haven't seen evidence that there was an imminent threat from Iran for him to launch a strike without going to Congress first.
01:54:45.000 And that's Massey's.
01:54:47.000 Didn't you see Trump yelled, they're coming right for us?
01:54:48.000 Oh, he said that?
01:54:49.000 Yeah.
01:54:50.000 Okay, then I guess we're going to.
01:54:50.000 And then he pressed the button, and the ships went.
01:54:53.000 They're coming right for us.
01:54:55.000 I love South Park.
01:54:56.000 Yeah, that's a good one.
01:54:57.000 We're not legally allowed to kill animals anymore unless they're an imminent threat.
01:55:00.000 So now we have to yell, it's coming right for us before we shoot it.
01:55:03.000 It worked.
01:55:04.000 Yeah.
01:55:05.000 America 76 says, I'd bet money that this wall, this was all agreed to prior to the nuclear strikes.
01:55:12.000 Site strikes for regimes staying in power.
01:55:14.000 It's why Iran appeared to be frozen out by Russia, Pakistan, etc.
01:55:18.000 Possibly.
01:55:19.000 The idea being that Trump went to Iran and said, we're going to bomb your sites, but we're not going to invade.
01:55:24.000 And then Iran caved and said, okay.
01:55:27.000 And then we blew them up, we left, and that was it.
01:55:30.000 It does kind of seem a little pre-planned.
01:55:33.000 I mean, I have, you know, I'm not an expert in this area, but the 12 Days War, as it's called now, which never was a war, actually.
01:55:41.000 It's just fascinating to watch it all unfold.
01:55:44.000 Maybe the reason that the U.S. did the strikes is because Iran in the negotiations said our people will never tolerate us dismantling our weapons.
01:55:51.000 And then Trump said, we'll blow them up.
01:55:53.000 So we'll target these sites.
01:55:56.000 We'll bomb them.
01:55:57.000 I don't know if I believe it considering they killed so many IRGC.
01:56:00.000 Yeah, and also like the Iranian people don't really back the Iranian regime.
01:56:05.000 So it's not like the Iranian people.
01:56:07.000 I don't know that I believe that.
01:56:08.000 No, no, no, no.
01:56:09.000 Why?
01:56:10.000 I mean, what's the source?
01:56:11.000 American propaganda?
01:56:12.000 The people of this country hate their government?
01:56:14.000 Yeah, well, you can show videos of leftists protesting and tell people in North Korea Americans hate their government too.
01:56:19.000 Fair enough.
01:56:20.000 Like when we had that debate on Friday and the woman who was debating said that people in Iran largely support Israel.
01:56:26.000 And I was like, no, they don't.
01:56:28.000 She was like, they do.
01:56:28.000 And I'm like, no one anywhere would support a foreign country bombing their nation.
01:56:33.000 Even if you don't like your government, you don't want your soldiers to be blown up.
01:56:37.000 That's ridiculous.
01:56:38.000 Only if you want to be liberated like the French in World War II and the Americans came in, but they were being gentle with the infrastructures.
01:56:44.000 And the Americans weren't attacking the French.
01:56:46.000 No, after D-Day, when they landed in France and started rolling through and they were blowing up bridges and towns were getting blown up, but the French were still glad to see them.
01:56:55.000 Because they were under occupation by a foreign government.
01:56:57.000 They were being freed from them.
01:56:58.000 So it's possible that these people in Iran feel like they're under occupation from this deocracy.
01:57:02.000 Well, some may.
01:57:03.000 I don't think they were blowing up villages either.
01:57:05.000 They weren't aiming for civilians, but they would definitely take out buildings if the Nazis were in.
01:57:11.000 If the Nazis in there shooting at them, yeah.
01:57:13.000 They would blow up people's hometowns and stuff.
01:57:14.000 Mountain Hope says, come on, man, I just bought Raytheon stocks.
01:57:18.000 Sadface.
01:57:19.000 Yeah, actually, the aftermarkets are not so good on some of these.
01:57:21.000 Oil prices went down today.
01:57:24.000 Right.
01:57:24.000 Like 7%.
01:57:25.000 Because speculation.
01:57:26.000 So when Iran was threatening to close the Strait of Hormuz, people started speculating.
01:57:30.000 So they were like, we're going to buy it up now before the price spikes.
01:57:33.000 Then when Trump announces a ceasefire, everyone's like, sell.
01:57:36.000 Ceasefire.
01:57:37.000 If it holds.
01:57:40.000 All right.
01:57:40.000 Shaquille Oatmeal says, Tim, huge thanks to you and your crew.
01:57:44.000 My wife and I have been listening almost daily since 2020, shouting out our newborn son, Luca Riker Grande.
01:57:50.000 Is that how you pronounce it?
01:57:51.000 And my amazing wife, congratulations.
01:57:53.000 Congrats, man.
01:57:54.000 I think his name is pronounced Shaquille Oatmeal.
01:57:56.000 Shaquille Oatmeal.
01:57:58.000 Yeah.
01:57:59.000 Oh, you said Shaquille Oatmeal, but I think it's oatmeal.
01:58:02.000 Oh.
01:58:03.000 You know, like Oatmeal.
01:58:04.000 Uh-huh.
01:58:04.000 Anyways.
01:58:05.000 Sorry to ruin the joke, guys.
01:58:06.000 Oh.
01:58:07.000 I just hear the same thing.
01:58:08.000 Oh, really?
01:58:09.000 Oatmeal and oatmeal?
01:58:10.000 The accent on the first syllable or the second syllable.
01:58:12.000 The wrong and fastest on the syllable.
01:58:14.000 Oatmeal is like Shaquille.
01:58:15.000 Syllable.
01:58:16.000 You put the wrong emphasis on the wrong syllable.
01:58:18.000 Poking holes again.
01:58:21.000 Yeah.
01:58:21.000 Some people say pajamas.
01:58:23.000 Some people say pajama.
01:58:24.000 I say pajama.
01:58:25.000 That's right.
01:58:26.000 Pajama.
01:58:27.000 Oh, my God.
01:58:30.000 I'd never heard pajama enough.
01:58:33.000 That was new to me.
01:58:35.000 That was actually when I was like 12. I was hungry with my friends, and they were arguing over pajama versus pajama.
01:58:40.000 And they were like half arguing, and they were like, which one is it, Tim?
01:58:44.000 And I didn't want to get in the middle of the argument.
01:58:45.000 So I may just went, Pajama.
01:58:47.000 And then everyone said, that was what I was saying.
01:58:49.000 I think you've made that up right now.
01:58:51.000 You really have to use a 40-year-old joke.
01:58:52.000 You've been in your pocket for decades.
01:58:54.000 Decades.
01:58:54.000 I'm sitting on that one.
01:58:56.000 Yep.
01:58:56.000 Pajama.
01:58:57.000 Pajama.
01:58:59.000 Pilgrim says, Trump fractured his base bigly.
01:59:01.000 Many have noticed the underlying problem.
01:59:02.000 Our government is all bought and paid for.
01:59:04.000 Midterm's gone.
01:59:05.000 2028 gone.
01:59:06.000 MAGA gone sad.
01:59:08.000 I don't disagree.
01:59:09.000 I don't know for sure, but I agree somewhat in that I think the probability that I'll put it this way.
01:59:15.000 I think there's a decent probability Trump just lost three or four points.
01:59:18.000 Libertarian vote's gone.
01:59:20.000 He's going to lose about a point and a half, two points from that.
01:59:23.000 Two days ago, I was like, impeach him.
01:59:24.000 Let's see what happens.
01:59:25.000 Do it.
01:59:26.000 If the impeachment's not good, then it won't go down.
01:59:28.000 Massey said no.
01:59:28.000 And Massey said, don't do it today.
01:59:30.000 And I was like, well, okay.
01:59:31.000 If he brings Massey back into the fold, will that help his libertarian numbers again?
01:59:35.000 Well, it's more so about what he does that gets Massey in the fold.
01:59:40.000 If Trump just came out and said, you know what, I'm sorry to Thomas Massey, he's a good dude, no.
01:59:43.000 But if he came out and said, okay, we're going to negotiate with Massey Massey, what do you?
01:59:47.000 And he says, repeal the NFA, and Trump said, we'll work on it, then the libertarians are going to start spanking themselves.
01:59:52.000 I'm still of the opinion that, especially considering the way this seems to be working out, the only thing that's going to derail Trump is going to be a bad economy.
01:59:59.000 Especially like, because a couple of days ago, we were talking about this, and I was hypothetically saying, if this were to go like this, right?
02:00:08.000 Like there's just the strikes, we don't invade, there's nothing else, Iran just does, you know, some kind of, some kind of like wave the white flag or whatever, and it doesn't turn into a big war, then the only thing that's going to be able to take Trump out would be something unforeseen, like a black swan event between now and the midterms or the economy.
02:00:29.000 That's it.
02:00:30.000 And I'm shocked at how well he's navigated this, to be honest with you.
02:00:36.000 I'm a little surprised that Iran has actually done what everyone kind of hoped they would do.
02:00:41.000 I kind of thought they were a little more crazy.
02:00:44.000 But I don't see this being a problem for MAGA because it doesn't get us into a long, drawn-out war.
02:00:51.000 If the conditions on the ground change, yes.
02:00:53.000 But if it doesn't get us into a war and this is done and over, this is not going to be any different to Soleimani.
02:00:58.000 If this ceasefire holds, Trump is going to be having a victory proof.
02:01:04.000 I'd be figuratively, but like, wow.
02:01:06.000 Yeah.
02:01:06.000 To pull off a surgical strike like this, and then that basically shuts the escalation down and then we don't get a furtherance of the war.
02:01:16.000 Wow.
02:01:17.000 So it'll be massive, my friends.
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02:04:15.000 YouTube, Axe is giving me the business.
02:04:17.000 Whoa, what the hell?
02:04:19.000 I think it deleted my tweet.
02:04:21.000 No.
02:04:22.000 Yeah.
02:04:23.000 Did it go to your tracks?
02:04:24.000 No, no, I posted.
02:04:25.000 It's on my phone.
02:04:26.000 I can see it.
02:04:27.000 Yo, it's not here.
02:04:28.000 Look.
02:04:29.000 If I go to my replies, look, it's not coming up.
02:04:34.000 Yo, I think they censored it.
02:04:36.000 Oh, no.
02:04:37.000 So check this out.
02:04:38.000 Ladies and gentlemen, we got a huge announcement for you guys.
02:04:40.000 Don't be gay.
02:04:42.000 Don't do it.
02:04:43.000 Don't be gay.
02:04:45.000 Go to boonieshq.com and don't be gay.
02:04:48.000 Or be gay.
02:04:49.000 I hear you could also be gay.
02:04:52.000 All right, here's what you do.
02:04:53.000 You go to boonieshq.com announcing our Pride Month collection.
02:04:57.000 We've got this skateboard, which is just a white skateboard with big black letters that says, don't be gay.
02:05:04.000 That's all it is for Pride Month.
02:05:06.000 No colors, no rainbows, nothing.
02:05:08.000 Just a scolding.
02:05:10.000 Now, here's the best part.
02:05:11.000 Scolding.
02:05:12.000 Somebody tweeted at me.
02:05:13.000 Why are you obsessed with gays?
02:05:15.000 Are you gay?
02:05:16.000 To which I responded, we got one for you too.
02:05:18.000 That's right.
02:05:19.000 Maybe you want to be gay.
02:05:21.000 I want to be gay.
02:05:22.000 Finally, equal rights for all, man.
02:05:24.000 That's right.
02:05:25.000 And somebody commented, what did they say?
02:05:28.000 So glad you saved this one for the comments.
02:05:30.000 Roasted him.
02:05:32.000 Indeed, that was the plan.
02:05:33.000 The idea was we knew we were going to get a ton of shit for Don't Be Gay, which is just meant to be a joke, making fun of all the bullshit.
02:05:40.000 And I was like, as soon as someone says something like, what's your problem, man?
02:05:44.000 I'm going to be like, oh, here's yours.
02:05:45.000 Be gay.
02:05:46.000 You know, just for you.
02:05:47.000 And the other issue is that, like, it's not an X. Or at least I think I could pull it up on my phone, but look at this.
02:05:57.000 There was a post here a second ago.
02:05:59.000 Where'd it go?
02:06:00.000 Let me see if I can pull it up on like a different browser or something.
02:06:03.000 You can see it?
02:06:05.000 Yeah, on our browser, it's gone.
02:06:06.000 It's just not there.
02:06:07.000 And it's my pinned...
02:06:10.000 It's not there.
02:06:11.000 That's weird.
02:06:12.000 Is that on your...
02:06:13.000 I can see it in my.
02:06:14.000 Okay, what browser?
02:06:15.000 There it is.
02:06:15.000 There it is.
02:06:16.000 It's gone.
02:06:17.000 You see that?
02:06:18.000 Yo, what's up with that?
02:06:19.000 Maybe an X-bog.
02:06:21.000 Yeah, it disappeared again.
02:06:22.000 Anyway, I just posted our Pride Month board, and the concern was, don't be gay.
02:06:26.000 They'd be like, that's hink.
02:06:28.000 So we were like, no, no, no, no.
02:06:29.000 We're equal opportunity here.
02:06:30.000 We have be gay and don't be gay.
02:06:32.000 Be gay, don't be gay.
02:06:33.000 Be gay, don't be gay.
02:06:35.000 And there's not that many.
02:06:37.000 They're going to sell out instantly.
02:06:38.000 I already got mine.
02:06:40.000 I already did.
02:06:41.000 As soon as you told me.
02:06:42.000 Yeah, there really are.
02:06:43.000 There's only a couple hundred, aren't there?
02:06:45.000 Not even right now.
02:06:46.000 There will be a total of 250 in the first run.
02:06:50.000 And right now, ready to go out the door, I think we might only have like 50 of each.
02:06:56.000 Okay.
02:06:56.000 So they're probably going to sell out in 20 minutes.
02:07:00.000 49. Yeah.
02:07:02.000 I think Serge might have got one.
02:07:03.000 I think Serge got one.
02:07:04.000 Some people tell me they were going to get as many as they can.
02:07:05.000 They're going to get like five.
02:07:06.000 And he got both.
02:07:07.000 Andy got two of them.
02:07:08.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:07:10.000 And so, but there will be a total of 250.
02:07:12.000 And then if they sell out, we'll probably, usually what we do is they sell out one run, and then we launch another one.
02:07:18.000 The reason why they're done in small batches like that is skateboards, they're 55 bucks.
02:07:22.000 They're not like, you know, a pad of paper.
02:07:25.000 And so if we, if after everybody's like, nah, nah, we bought the don't be good, we don't want anymore, we don't want to sit on, you know, 250 boards we can't sell.
02:07:33.000 I think mine was $77 with shipping.
02:07:37.000 Yeah.
02:07:38.000 Is it American All-American made?
02:07:40.000 All-American made.
02:07:41.000 And so all-American, everything including labor.
02:07:43.000 So we've got to, we're trying to figure out why the shipping costs are so high, but they are.
02:07:47.000 Because it's like a small shop that does all of the labor.
02:07:49.000 And that's why.
02:07:51.000 So you want to buy as much as you can at once.
02:07:53.000 Yeah.
02:07:53.000 Because there's like a flat rate for shipping, which is pretty heavy.
02:07:55.000 So go buy both of them.
02:07:56.000 Includes handling or something.
02:07:58.000 We have another one coming out that's not available due to an error, but I'll just announce that one now.
02:08:04.000 The skateboard behind me with the former independent logo and now the Timcast skate company logo.
02:08:11.000 We have a board coming out that says uncancelable and it has that symbol on it.
02:08:14.000 We claimed That years ago, after the story is independent skateboard company, one of the most iconic skateboard companies in the world, they make trucks.
02:08:20.000 They make the metal hanger part of the board.
02:08:23.000 They used that symbol for decades, 50 some odd years, and then were called racist because it looks like an iron cross.
02:08:29.000 So they abandoned it, removed it from all their products and their website.
02:08:33.000 The moment they did, I said, that's my logo.
02:08:35.000 It's an abandoned trademark.
02:08:37.000 And we took it and we sold these boards and we've had them for years.
02:08:40.000 And it sits behind me on hundreds of episodes of the show.
02:08:42.000 So it is officially ours now.
02:08:44.000 Year 19 or 2015 to 2020.
02:08:48.000 Those years were all a mistake.
02:08:51.000 I remember those years, those mistakes.
02:08:53.000 Hey, I want to ask you guys about a kind of a spiritual question.
02:08:56.000 Don't be gay.
02:08:57.000 I know we're talking about it.
02:08:58.000 I can't be gay anymore.
02:08:59.000 I've already gay.
02:08:59.000 I've been gay.
02:09:01.000 I used to dance around and throw my hands in the air.
02:09:04.000 It was the gayest of times.
02:09:06.000 Like you did not care?
02:09:07.000 I was in the theater.
02:09:09.000 So, okay, hear me out, guys.
02:09:11.000 I want to talk about this weird spiritual thing that happened to me.
02:09:13.000 I was walking out in my back porch and I kept a couple weeks ago, I started thinking, like, I live in the Garden of Eden.
02:09:18.000 I live in this like isolated little pocket of, um, in the forest, this like little clearing.
02:09:23.000 It's up a hill down from a road and between a river and a, and, um, like a freeway.
02:09:29.000 So there's no predators.
02:09:30.000 So it's all these prey animals and it's like deer grazing in the yard and rabbits walk.
02:09:35.000 Literally, I walk out and there'll be like three deer, deer laying down.
02:09:38.000 They just look at me and chill.
02:09:39.000 And I'm like, I live in the Garden of Eden.
02:09:41.000 And then a couple of days ago, I told Tim that like last week, last Friday.
02:09:44.000 And then all of a sudden on Saturday, a big black snake appeared.
02:09:47.000 Literally, this like five and a half foot long.
02:09:50.000 It's a black rat snake.
02:09:53.000 And I'm wondering, like, is this a simulation?
02:09:56.000 Am I man?
02:09:57.000 Did I manifest that snake?
02:09:59.000 No.
02:09:59.000 So is it inevitable?
02:10:00.000 Are we leaving?
02:10:01.000 Tempted the fates.
02:10:05.000 When you go outside, they're a snake sometimes.
02:10:08.000 It just sits there on top of my sauna, right above my shower.
02:10:11.000 Really?
02:10:11.000 A foot away from my face when I'm showering, and he looks at me.
02:10:14.000 Oh, and we look at each other.
02:10:16.000 Are you showering outside?
02:10:16.000 There's that shower next to the sauna.
02:10:18.000 Yeah, it's cold water.
02:10:19.000 Yeah, yeah.
02:10:19.000 I'll just go in the sauna, get hot, come out, hit myself with cold, go back in, fill up the button.
02:10:23.000 It's so nice.
02:10:23.000 Ian lives in a literal castle.
02:10:25.000 It is literally kind of, yeah.
02:10:28.000 A mansion.
02:10:29.000 It's a huge, 10-bedroom, one of the most amazing old studio.
02:10:32.000 Sometimes I'll be alone and I'll be like, I'm alone, but I'm living a life of luxury alone.
02:10:37.000 And it's like, what a fucking.
02:10:39.000 Were you going to say something?
02:10:43.000 I am just enjoying the conversation.
02:10:45.000 Do you think there is a God?
02:10:46.000 And you don't have to answer that question directly, but what do you think about the universe and what's happening with reality?
02:10:53.000 Okay, maybe I can ask a more direct question unless you want to take it from there.
02:10:56.000 A more direct question would be.
02:10:57.000 Do you think that we're in a simulation?
02:10:58.000 What do you think about God?
02:10:59.000 Do you think we're in like a simulation, a god-like simulation of creation that we're kind of co-creating?
02:11:05.000 Or do you think it's like hard matter that you break it, it's like your body dies and it's gone?
02:11:12.000 No, no, no, not at all.
02:11:13.000 So I have a very deep faith.
02:11:15.000 I believe God created man and woman, all of the biblical theology for sure.
02:11:22.000 But in a very spiritual sense, I do believe we're co-creators, especially as women.
02:11:27.000 I mean, we grow human beings in our body, but we don't create their spirits.
02:11:31.000 Their spirits are placed in.
02:11:32.000 So I'm happy to answer any religious or spiritual questions that you want to discuss or talk about.
02:11:38.000 I think the spirit of the snake heard me, heard me calling out this.
02:11:42.000 I wasn't thinking about snakes.
02:11:44.000 It didn't, but then a big black snake.
02:11:45.000 And then that night that I met the snake, I ate a big red pepper.
02:11:48.000 I didn't think about it.
02:11:49.000 I didn't have an apple, but it looked like an apple.
02:11:52.000 I don't know if that matters, but I was just refreshing after the sauna.
02:11:56.000 Are we having a serious conversation right now or not?
02:12:01.000 Is he pranking me?
02:12:02.000 Is that what's going on?
02:12:03.000 I like Ian.
02:12:04.000 Is he pranking me?
02:12:06.000 No.
02:12:06.000 He's a good friend.
02:12:07.000 These guys are awesome.
02:12:08.000 Serge is the man, by the way.
02:12:09.000 No, no, I'm not.
02:12:10.000 I feel like you guys brought me in here to prank me right now.
02:12:12.000 Just a weird thing to ask.
02:12:13.000 You are not on like.
02:12:16.000 Gotcha or something?
02:12:18.000 No.
02:12:18.000 So the pepper, I mean, I think you did that on purpose.
02:12:22.000 I don't know at this point.
02:12:24.000 I do think that there's a level of spirituality, and I do think that, you know, spirits can communicate in some kind of way if you really want to, you know, get into some thoughts there.
02:12:32.000 But I don't know about the red pepper.
02:12:34.000 Now you're just throwing me for a little bit.
02:12:35.000 My final question.
02:12:36.000 Should I communicate with the snake?
02:12:40.000 I know.
02:12:41.000 You should probably remove the snake from where you are and take the shower in peace so that you're not being harassed by a snake.
02:12:48.000 It's yelling wars code.
02:12:49.000 Snake's chilling.
02:12:50.000 What's the problem?
02:12:51.000 If I move towards the snake, the snake will move towards me.
02:12:54.000 See, here's the thing.
02:12:54.000 You joke with him, and I'm trying to answer him seriously, and I don't even know if it's a joke.
02:12:58.000 It's just because he's nuts.
02:12:59.000 No, it's all real.
02:13:00.000 I just, I talked to the snake.
02:13:02.000 I just haven't really commanded the snake to talk to me in that way.
02:13:06.000 What's wrong with Chicken City?
02:13:08.000 Is anybody still left?
02:13:09.000 No, it's empty.
02:13:10.000 It's like, it's beautiful.
02:13:12.000 It's a huge garden where all the deer eat.
02:13:14.000 And yeah.
02:13:14.000 The fencing was removed?
02:13:16.000 Is this fencing still there?
02:13:17.000 Wait, wait, wait, hold on.
02:13:19.000 There's a lot of chickens there.
02:13:20.000 They're going inside now.
02:13:21.000 Yeah, one of them will, maybe they jump over the fence.
02:13:22.000 So you see like one in the garden?
02:13:24.000 The fence is six feet tall.
02:13:25.000 But they're deer.
02:13:26.000 I don't know, but I saw one.
02:13:28.000 I saw one inside that over the last month.
02:13:30.000 I've only seen one inside.
02:13:32.000 The gate must be open.
02:13:32.000 Maybe.
02:13:33.000 But it's all regrown and all lush now.
02:13:35.000 Yeah, it's beautiful.
02:13:36.000 Because the chickens aren't walking around and pooping all the way.
02:13:38.000 And the grass is well maintained because someone will come by and mow the yard.
02:13:42.000 It's our old snow.
02:13:42.000 It's great.
02:13:43.000 So it's a big property with a massive building.
02:13:45.000 Yeah.
02:13:45.000 Okay.
02:13:46.000 It's one of Tim's houses.
02:13:47.000 Well, it's got a story, but it's a bunch of offices and like the old IRL studios there.
02:13:56.000 And then Ian's got a room there now.
02:13:57.000 And there's chickens.
02:13:58.000 There were.
02:13:59.000 They're all here.
02:13:59.000 Chickens were streamed in Times Square, someone told me this morning.
02:14:04.000 Roberto Jr. had a 95-foot tall billboard.
02:14:07.000 Two of them actually in Times Square.
02:14:09.000 Yeah, Roberto.
02:14:10.000 Yeah, the chickens were legit.
02:14:12.000 Roberto Jr. had a heart attack and died suddenly.
02:14:14.000 It's like 100 feet out of my window.
02:14:15.000 My condolences.
02:14:16.000 You ever live with me?
02:14:17.000 RB3 is the new king.
02:14:20.000 Roberto Beaks III.
02:14:21.000 This all sounds so fake, dude.
02:14:22.000 It's all real, though.
02:14:23.000 That's the craziest part.
02:14:25.000 Can you have some sympathy for me over here?
02:14:27.000 Because I have no idea how to hold my own.
02:14:30.000 That's exactly why he said it all sounds so fake.
02:14:33.000 Ian is crazy, but we do have a chicken coop that we live stream at chickencitylive.com.
02:14:39.000 And to promote it, I bought two Times Square billboards that are 95 feet tall and we put the rooster on it.
02:14:46.000 Okay.
02:14:47.000 And I'll respond.
02:14:47.000 that sounds very normal.
02:14:49.000 Okay.
02:14:50.000 Yeah.
02:14:51.000 That's the best part.
02:14:52.000 Why is it?
02:14:52.000 Honest question.
02:14:53.000 I go to Times Square and it's all the exact same dumb bullshit.
02:14:57.000 And I'm like, where the fuck is anyone doing anything weird?
02:15:01.000 How come no one's putting up a giant billboard of a fucking chicken?
02:15:04.000 I guess I have to do it.
02:15:05.000 So I did.
02:15:05.000 I'll respond to Tim's heinous criticism of me being crazy.
02:15:10.000 I don't think I'm crazy.
02:15:10.000 But when you see two people speaking a language you don't understand, you might accidentally be like, they're not making any sense.
02:15:16.000 Well, I think that I broke my brain in like 2006 and started to see God.
02:15:20.000 It was the drug.
02:15:21.000 Something changed me.
02:15:22.000 It was a lot of weed and a lot of internet video looking at my face, listening to myself, talking about the truth.
02:15:27.000 And all of a sudden, I mean, my reality shifted.
02:15:30.000 I stopped blinking.
02:15:31.000 Literally, I will go 20 minutes without blinking sometimes.
02:15:34.000 And I had to learn how to re-blink again because what the fuck is wrong with you?
02:15:37.000 Joe stares at the sun.
02:15:40.000 I gaze at the sun.
02:15:42.000 And he thinks he can change the weather, too.
02:15:45.000 Well, yeah, you got a magnetic field, your body, and so does the earth, and the clouds are magnetic.
02:15:49.000 So there must be common sense or logic would dictate that there's an interference between your magnetic field and the clouds and magnetic field.
02:15:57.000 Common sense would indicate because you have a magnetic field in your body that you can change the weather.
02:16:03.000 Mons we don't understand.
02:16:04.000 Monster Mangler.
02:16:05.000 Monster Mangler in the chat says, I too think you broke your brain.
02:16:08.000 Yeah, I broke it, but I fixed it again.
02:16:10.000 I almost killed myself in like 2010.
02:16:12.000 Legit.
02:16:13.000 I'd given up.
02:16:14.000 I thought the liberal economic order was going to, everything was fucked.
02:16:17.000 I didn't know I was going to be an actor.
02:16:19.000 And then I changed and I had to rebuild who I am.
02:16:24.000 And for a long time, I just hid in the, because I'm so weird.
02:16:26.000 So I would hide it away.
02:16:28.000 But now I'm aggressive with it because I feel like, what fuck, what do we have to lose at this point?
02:16:32.000 Well, and it sounds like you're loved for it.
02:16:34.000 So it's great.
02:16:35.000 And hated.
02:16:36.000 Yeah.
02:16:36.000 Let's go to callers.
02:16:37.000 We're going to bring in Angry Fat White Guy.
02:16:39.000 Oh, boy.
02:16:40.000 Angry Fat White Guy.
02:16:41.000 What's up, man?
02:16:43.000 Hey, everyone.
02:16:44.000 How you doing?
02:16:45.000 Doing well.
02:16:46.000 I'll just start out and say, Ian, I love you, man.
02:16:48.000 Don't ever change.
02:16:49.000 Oh, thanks.
02:16:51.000 We already got one of the boards sold out.
02:16:53.000 Oh, it did?
02:16:55.000 Eight fives are sold out.
02:16:56.000 Don't be gay just sold out.
02:16:56.000 We were just talking about.
02:16:57.000 No, no, no, no, no.
02:16:59.000 One of the sides of Don't Be Gay is now sold out.
02:17:01.000 There's still three sizes available.
02:17:02.000 Get it while you can.
02:17:03.000 Hey, thank you for saying that, man.
02:17:05.000 Firstly, what is your name?
02:17:06.000 But secondly, I keep changing.
02:17:08.000 Everything is in constant flux.
02:17:10.000 Well, I mean, stay you.
02:17:12.000 And the other guys bagging on them.
02:17:15.000 I just want to say, someday you're going to find out that you would write about everything.
02:17:19.000 And it's going to rock your world.
02:17:21.000 Moving on to my question.
02:17:23.000 So now that the whole Iran thing seems to be settling down, it looks like we might have, you know, quote, peace in the area.
02:17:30.000 The issue remains with the Palestinians.
02:17:33.000 And for decades, that's been the singular issue that all of the Arab states have pointed to and justified this as well.
02:17:40.000 We don't like Israel.
02:17:40.000 This is why we hate Israel.
02:17:41.000 They're the occupiers.
02:17:43.000 So we're not going to have peace.
02:17:45.000 There's not going to be a lasting peace unless we have a viable Palestinian state.
02:17:51.000 And it's got to be contiguous.
02:17:53.000 It's going to have to have access to the net.
02:17:55.000 And it's going to require, you know, some of those regional nations like Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, and Israel.
02:18:03.000 They're going to have to cede territory.
02:18:05.000 And, you know, the idea of just creating an artificial state, it isn't new in the region.
02:18:10.000 I mean, that's basically how it was all carved up before.
02:18:13.000 But without that, how do we get peace?
02:18:15.000 Like, what is the solution?
02:18:16.000 Let's solve this.
02:18:17.000 This is completely non-controversial and easy.
02:18:20.000 And I'll pick your answer.
02:18:22.000 There's different ways to get peace.
02:18:23.000 One way is you can level everything to the ground and then it's nice and quiet and peaceful.
02:18:27.000 That's not the way we want to accomplish it.
02:18:29.000 So it's really about how are we going to get there?
02:18:32.000 Dear God, it looks like the Israeli government wants to colonize, displace the entire population.
02:18:37.000 I can't tell.
02:18:37.000 I mean, maybe that's hyperbolic, but I don't know.
02:18:41.000 I don't know.
02:18:41.000 What do you?
02:18:42.000 Well, there's 2 million Arabs that are Israeli citizens.
02:18:46.000 So they're not trying to get rid of everybody.
02:18:48.000 I was just thinking about in Gaza.
02:18:50.000 Is it more general?
02:18:51.000 Just about the people living together in Israel is what we're talking about?
02:18:54.000 Not just the Gaza, Israel and Gaza that are Israeli citizens.
02:18:57.000 I'm asking about a two-state solution.
02:18:59.000 And I don't think Gaza can stick in the hand of the Palestinians.
02:19:04.000 It has to be a contiguous state.
02:19:05.000 I think we're a long, long, very long way away from a two-state solution.
02:19:15.000 From any solution, to be honest with you.
02:19:17.000 I think October 7th changed that calculation pretty significantly.
02:19:24.000 If you talk to Israel, they're going to say, hey, we've been out of the Gaza Strip since, whatever, 2005 or whatever it was in the aughts.
02:19:32.000 And what did we get for it?
02:19:34.000 We got October 7th for 20 years of not being in Gaza with no Jews in there at all.
02:19:39.000 We pulled people out of their homes that lived in the Gaza Strip.
02:19:42.000 And now 20 years later, we get October 7th and a war with Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthis and Iran.
02:19:53.000 So what kind of situation arises or manifests in Gaza as they possibly try to rebuild it?
02:20:04.000 I don't know what they're going to do with it.
02:20:06.000 I don't know.
02:20:07.000 But it's not going to be like, okay, we're going to have a two-state solution in the next six months or a year.
02:20:16.000 And the people of Gaza, the Palestinians in Gaza, are going to be able to link up with the Palestinian Authority and the West Bank.
02:20:23.000 And everyone's going to be able to go ahead and create a Palestinian state.
02:20:27.000 And there'll be two-state solution.
02:20:28.000 And blah, blah, blah.
02:20:29.000 That ain't happening for a long, long time.
02:20:31.000 The Israelis are going to actually occupy, the IDF is going to be in Gaza for a long time.
02:20:38.000 It's not going to be give it back to the Palestinians and let them do what they want there.
02:20:44.000 There's going to be an occupation.
02:20:46.000 I've heard from, I don't know, it's Dave Smith, somebody was telling me that Netanyahu was involved in setting up Hamas in 2003 or something in order to make sure they will never have a two-state solution because they needed a villain to attack.
02:20:57.000 I don't know if that's true, but this is what I've heard.
02:20:58.000 But then I spent, like I said over the weekend on the main show, like a two and a half hour conversation with Gal G on Twitter.
02:21:04.000 She graciously invited me up to talk.
02:21:06.000 And there's a lot of Israelis in the conversation.
02:21:08.000 I was like, well, what if, I just brought up, like, I don't trust the news.
02:21:12.000 What if October 7th was allowed?
02:21:14.000 Like they waited because it took them hours to respond.
02:21:17.000 And they acknowledged that.
02:21:18.000 But the people, like some of the Israelis that were talking to me, they said it's impossible that our government would have allowed it.
02:21:24.000 They used the word impossible.
02:21:26.000 And I remember the cognitive dissonance when I started thinking about 9-11 and the potential that maybe our government was involved in that breaking that cognitive dissonance, the pain of considering maybe the people you love are actually villains.
02:21:42.000 And I think a lot of people in Israel are still in that place.
02:21:45.000 So it would make it challenging to find peace if that's what they think.
02:21:53.000 You can gently educate people.
02:21:56.000 Often people have to want to learn in order to learn.
02:22:00.000 So you can subvert them with music and get them comfortable enough to listen to you, and then you can educate them.
02:22:06.000 Or comedy, movies, things like that.
02:22:09.000 I think that's the path towards diplomatic resolution is using the arts and entertainment to disarm the fear so that then you can educate.
02:22:20.000 That answer your question.
02:22:23.000 I'm glad you brought up October 7th because just prior to October 7th, Saudi Arabia was literally imminently going to officially normalize relations with Israel.
02:22:36.000 And I think October 7th was facilitated in part by Iran.
02:22:41.000 Because over there, you got the GCC, the Gulf Cooperation Council, which is six of the major Gulf states.
02:22:49.000 And they're basically set up against Iran.
02:22:51.000 They're their own NATO organization that is set up in opposition to Iran, just like NATO was against the Soviet Union.
02:22:59.000 And I think Saudi would have been the straw that broke the Tamil's back, so to speak, in terms of Iran's ability to tolerate it.
02:23:07.000 Because Iran is terrified of Israel, and Iran is terrified of a united GCC, you know, Saudi and the Emirates.
02:23:17.000 And if they had normalized relationships with Israel, that's just a bigger problem for them to have to deal with.
02:23:23.000 And then there's the other issue, the relationships between the governments, like the government of Saudi Arabia or the Emirates or Qatar, they might be warming towards Israel, but the populations of those countries are not.
02:23:36.000 And what October 7th did, you know, immediately the whole world was sympathetic towards Israel.
02:23:45.000 And then they went into Gaza, and it has really driven a wedge.
02:23:48.000 And the antipathy that was already there in those countries was just ramped up to 11. So they've got to deal with the Palestinian issue sooner or later.