Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - THEY ARE REAL, Aliens Exist Says Congressman, Artemis II MAKES IT Around The Moon | Timcast IRL

00:02:41.000 The Artemis 2 mission has made it from the dark side of the moon.

00:02:45.000 The blackout is over and they will begin transmitting data.

00:02:48.000 And still, people are denying that we've gone to the moon.

00:02:53.000 They don't believe it.

00:02:54.000 They think that this is a big hoax campaign, that NASA isn't real, it's demonic, and that there's like this gondola that came out of the launch site.

00:03:02.000 They say that's where the astronauts escaped to, and they've been staging this whole thing.

00:03:07.000 None of it is real.

00:03:09.000 Well, I guess you choose what you want to believe, according to all of the reporting.

00:03:13.000 They made it out and they're going to have new images.

00:03:15.000 And there are, in fact, indications of specific natural resources which we may begin to moon mine when we build a mine on the moon.

00:03:23.000 I'm excited for that.

00:03:24.000 In the meantime, Tim Burchett followed up on the statement he made last week when he said, If the American people learned about these briefings on aliens, the nation would become unglued.

00:03:32.000 And he told TMZ, They're real.

00:03:35.000 He has been briefed.

00:03:36.000 They came to him and said, They're real, that aliens and alien technology have been in contact with humans.

00:03:41.000 And I certainly hope it's not the way Matt Gaetz explained it, where he said, Women were being kidnapped to be forced to carry the babies of aliens to create alien human hybrids.

00:03:53.000 Okay, this is the news, I guess.

00:03:55.000 The big trending stories.

00:03:57.000 Donald Trump also pulled off a historic rescue mission involving what is it, like hundreds of aircraft, like 100 plus aircraft, to rescue one guy who climbed up 7,000 feet while bleeding and activating his beacon.

00:04:10.000 They came in and they got him.

00:04:12.000 Apparently, the CIA was doing these decoy missions to distract the Iranian government so we could get in, get this guy, and get out.

00:04:12.000 It was amazing.

00:04:20.000 It's amazing stuff.

00:04:21.000 At the same time, I'm just, it's a weird place in the podcast space these days.

00:04:26.000 The podcasts that tend to do the best right now are the ones that are rooting against the United States.

00:04:30.000 And by all means, I'm not saying every single one of these top podcasts critical of the war in Iran is rooting against us, but some of them literally are.

00:04:37.000 And they're telling people to watch the Iranian media for truth, which is just crazy.

00:04:42.000 But this is where we're headed.

00:04:44.000 Whatever that means, any way you cut it, there is a campaign against the United States to diminish it, whether Trump succeeds here or not.

00:04:52.000 So, my friends, we're going to talk about that and a whole lot more.

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00:06:36.000 I know I said tap, but I'm going to say smash it.

00:06:38.000 But joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we've got a couple of great guests.

00:06:41.000 We've got Avery Day.

00:06:42.000 Hello.

00:06:43.000 Thank you for having me.

00:06:44.000 Who are you?

00:06:44.000 What do you do?

00:06:46.000 Who am I?

00:06:47.000 I post conservative content.

00:06:49.000 I was living in England for the past three years, moved back when Trump was elected, and I started posting because I felt like people didn't know what was happening in Europe.

00:06:59.000 And that has spiraled.

00:07:01.000 So now I share my opinion online. 0.96

00:07:04.000 I talk crap on the internet about people. 0.98

00:07:07.000 Talking crap on the internet seems to be a popular thing these days. 0.99

00:07:07.000 All right. 0.99

00:07:10.000 And Jorge's back.

00:07:11.000 Yeah, it's good to be back.

00:07:12.000 Independent journalist focusing on illegal immigration, cartels, all the crazy stuff.

00:07:18.000 Just left LA about a week ago where no keens got a little wild. 0.68

00:07:22.000 So we were there.

00:07:22.000 And just also finished a new report on the Iranian sleeper cells out of Mexico and the smuggling connected with the Mexican cartels.

00:07:31.000 But yeah, thanks, Tim.

00:07:32.000 Right on.

00:07:32.000 Good to be back.

00:07:33.000 Then we got Ian hanging out.

00:07:35.000 We got Carter pressing buttons.

00:07:36.000 What's up?

00:07:37.000 And of course, Phil is here.

00:07:38.000 Hello, everybody.

00:07:39.000 Let's jump into the story.

00:07:40.000 We got breaking news.

00:07:41.000 It's history, ladies and gentlemen.

00:07:43.000 Record breakers.

00:07:44.000 Artemis 2 has emerged from blackout and radios Houston after loss of communications while spacecraft vanished behind the moon.

00:07:52.000 So the moon's apparently real.

00:07:54.000 I can't believe it.

00:07:55.000 Shane Cashman, most affected.

00:07:57.000 Yeah.

00:07:58.000 We, you know, I came the other day and I saw him and he was crying.

00:08:02.000 I said, Shane, what's wrong?

00:08:03.000 And he was like, the moon's real.

00:08:05.000 And I said, I know.

00:08:06.000 And he said, no, you don't understand.

00:08:07.000 The moon is real.

00:08:08.000 And I said, Jane, I know.

00:08:11.000 Did he get into how bad it hurts?

00:08:13.000 He started smashing things.

00:08:14.000 He flipped the table over. 0.91

00:08:15.000 He was a baddie and it hurt so bad.

00:08:17.000 I was like, I know.

00:08:18.000 Actually, I'm pretty sure.

00:08:19.000 All kidding aside, Shane, we love you.

00:08:22.000 There are people who still don't believe that we've ever gone to the moon.

00:08:25.000 They think the whole thing is still fake, even with this moon mission being a tremendous victory for the American people.

00:08:33.000 At least, at least give us this.

00:08:35.000 If they are faking this right now, at least give America credit for doing the best fakes, right?

00:08:41.000 Let's just celebrate the American deepest fakes, the deepest of deep fakes. 0.99

00:08:46.000 Indeed.

00:08:48.000 In all seriousness, the plan is they went around the moon charting it, basically looking for resources because we are going to establish moon mining.

00:08:57.000 I'm so glad I made a video about mining the moon in like 2007.

00:08:57.000 Yeah.

00:09:02.000 I see things like 15 years before they happen sometimes, and people are like, all right, bro, slow down, get a job.

00:09:07.000 I'm like, it's got to happen.

00:09:09.000 But like we were talking earlier, you don't want to overmine the moon.

00:09:11.000 So we got to be.

00:09:12.000 Careful, and you don't want to overmine.

00:09:14.000 Well, yeah, no, you don't.

00:09:15.000 Hold on, I want to.

00:09:16.000 What if we mined everything from the moon and brought it to Earth?

00:09:18.000 Would that not change the mass of the Earth?

00:09:20.000 Oh, could ruin the tides.

00:09:22.000 Yeah, the moon is a big part of the tide.

00:09:24.000 I mean, that's true too, but I mean, like, imagine 100 years from now we've overmined the moon, and there's very, like, we've just ripped out, let's say, 3%, and it shifts the moon's weight and Earth's mass increases by 0.3% of moon mass.

00:09:41.000 So we have to take dirt to the moon and replace what the rocks we take.

00:09:45.000 There you go.

00:09:45.000 That's true.

00:09:46.000 So let's, we need large masses of matter to replace what we're taking.

00:09:54.000 Maybe ice.

00:09:55.000 Or Democrats.

00:09:56.000 I was just going to say leftists.

00:09:58.000 Send the commies to the moon. 1.00

00:09:59.000 All the things you want.

00:10:00.000 Send some tortas, bro.

00:10:01.000 Send the tortas to the moon, bro.

00:10:03.000 Wait, what?

00:10:04.000 No, we want those.

00:10:06.000 Tortas? 0.97

00:10:07.000 A fat Mexican girl, you want one, Tim? 1.00

00:10:08.000 Oh, I thought those are sandwiches, bro. 0.99

00:10:10.000 I thought those are tortas, bro.

00:10:11.000 Yeah, torta.

00:10:12.000 You go to a Mexican restaurant.

00:10:13.000 That, too, yeah.

00:10:14.000 You see here, you know, language barriers.

00:10:16.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:10:16.000 Bro, I love it.

00:10:17.000 Have you ever had a torta at a nice Mexican restaurant?

00:10:19.000 Oh, yeah, I'm from LA.

00:10:20.000 He's had a different kind of torta too, apparently.

00:10:22.000 We get some of the tortas of the moon too, bro.

00:10:22.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:10:24.000 I mean, hey, Alex Stein, most effective.

00:10:26.000 There you go.

00:10:26.000 That's where Alex Stein.

00:10:26.000 Yeah.

00:10:29.000 I listen to a lot of podcasts with futurists and stuff, and there's this one dude who's like, totally, he's like, the moon had it coming.

00:10:36.000 We are going to totally disassemble the moon, and we're going to strip mine it and turn it into a Dyson sphere, which is basically a means to collect a significant portion of the sun's energy.

00:10:48.000 Look, I'm not saying that it's a good idea because I do think that the fact that it would affect the tides is probably something that we actually have to think about.

00:10:56.000 But that kind of big idea is the stuff that people are actually starting to talk about seriously now.

00:11:03.000 Like the idea of a million satellites in space that are part of Elon Musk's data center.

00:11:10.000 He's literally talking about putting, eventually, a million satellites in space.

00:11:15.000 It scales up so exponentially because drone swarm construction will be, size won't matter when you're building things, really.

00:11:22.000 Just because gravity is not an issue, height doesn't exist in space.

00:11:25.000 So you'll have a trillion drones all building this machine at once. 0.82

00:11:28.000 There's a lot of, there's a lot of.

00:11:29.000 Problems that have to be solved before you can actually start doing this stuff.

00:11:32.000 But look, if there's anyone that I think has the capacity to do that, it's probably someone like Elon Musk.

00:11:39.000 So, in keeping things in line with our culture war theme on this show, liberals are apparently mad that we're going to make a moon mine.

00:11:46.000 You could have stopped with liberals apparently mad.

00:11:48.000 So, first things first, I made a video talking about how we went back to the moon.

00:11:52.000 I got absolutely dragged.

00:11:53.000 Apparently, my entire generation, my friends, basically everyone that I interact with socially, Thinks that I'm the dumbest person alive for thinking that we went to the moon, which is terrifying in and of itself.

00:12:07.000 And then terrifying because I think it's an op.

00:12:07.000 Yes.

00:12:10.000 The whole thing's an op.

00:12:11.000 The fake moon stuff?

00:12:12.000 Yeah.

00:12:13.000 So here's my thought like, how do these people think that Starlink works?

00:12:18.000 It's an honest question.

00:12:19.000 Like, I point my disc at the sky and the good lord above the firmament beams down knowledge to my receptacle.

00:12:27.000 It's strong opinions with a lack of understanding of anything and how it works.

00:12:32.000 You know, I'm a moon landing believer and I'll tell you why.

00:12:35.000 I actually don't think it's all that complicated.

00:12:38.000 Like, obviously, building a rocket is advanced science.

00:12:40.000 It's rocket science, literally.

00:12:42.000 I'm just saying, like, fundamentally, a bunch of dudes in a room with a chalkboard drafted up the trajectory of being like, we're going to blast them up on a rocket and point them straight at the moon.

00:12:52.000 And they're like, $300 billion.

00:12:54.000 Yeah.

00:12:55.000 So a lot of money and resources that we're not going to do to land on the moon.

00:12:58.000 And a lot of motivation.

00:12:59.000 Like, we were talking about this before the show.

00:13:01.000 Like, the reason the U.S. was so focused on the space program was because it was a surrogate for building.

00:13:09.000 For achieving the ability to send a ballistic missile to the other side of the planet.

00:13:13.000 It was a surrogate, it was Cold War, basically part of the Cold War.

00:13:18.000 The reason they wanted to be able to shoot rockets to the moon is if you can get a rocket to the moon, you can definitely get a rocket to Moscow.

00:13:24.000 And not just that, the great fear that the US was trying to instill in other countries, aside from the fact, hey, we can launch a rocket into space and then at you, was that we could have missiles on the moon.

00:13:34.000 Yeah.

00:13:34.000 The idea was that if we went to the moon and kept going there, what could we have there and could we launch attacks from.

00:13:40.000 From the moon, because lunar gravity is not particularly strong.

00:13:44.000 That being said, I have to admit something, and that is most businesses and even governments operate on the cost benefit analysis model that's standard.

00:13:55.000 And I got to tell you, if Ian came to me and said, we should prove how great of a podcast we are by climbing the Mount Everest and doing the show there with Starlink, and it would be amazing, I'd be like, that's a really great idea.

00:14:09.000 It would be a lot cheaper if we just made a fake Mount Everest set and didn't actually do it, and we'd accomplish the same thing.

00:14:16.000 So I do understand why people believe there was a motivation not to go to the moon.

00:14:19.000 But I will add this the functional reason, as Phil pointed out, why I think we probably did was the US is sitting in a room, and here's what I think really happened they said, hey, We want to blow up Moscow.

00:14:31.000 Well, we've got a bunch of rockets, but they're easily detected.

00:14:31.000 How do we do it?

00:14:34.000 We need a rocket that can come straight down so they can't intercept it.

00:14:38.000 Well, how do we do it?

00:14:39.000 We need a big rocket.

00:14:40.000 It's going to have to go pretty dang far.

00:14:42.000 Okay.

00:14:43.000 How do we build and test for this?

00:14:45.000 You think the American people are going to tolerate you building a world ending 100 megaton vertical drop bomb onto Moscow? 0.66

00:14:53.000 You're going to request this budget, and people are going to be standing off in Florida looking at this thing you're building and saying, Why are you doing this?

00:15:00.000 And they're like, Fair point.

00:15:02.000 Eh, we're going to the moon.

00:15:02.000 So what do we tell them?

00:15:06.000 We do some moon missions, and that'll be the PR play so that we can build intercontinental, nay, planetary ballistic missiles.

00:15:15.000 It wouldn't surprise me if we use the moon as a cover for a weapons development program.

00:15:19.000 The Nazis did it with their automobile industry in the 30s. 0.94

00:15:22.000 Everyone thought they had revitalized their economy by building cars, but they were building tank engines.

00:15:26.000 That's essentially what the space program was.

00:15:28.000 That's what we're saying.

00:15:29.000 It's a cover for.

00:15:31.000 But boy, has it backfired because now you have an entire generation that's convinced we did not go to the moon because there's like.

00:15:36.000 This whole operation against us and the moon landing is rooting against the United States of America.

00:15:42.000 That's what people understand.

00:15:44.000 You're 100% right.

00:15:45.000 That's in vogue right now.

00:15:46.000 But the thing is, like, those, the people that are so distrusting of the government, like, there's a reason for that.

00:15:53.000 And a lot of it, I think, is because of COVID, personally.

00:15:56.000 I think that the COVID narrative that turned out to not be true really did, you know, did a whole one shot on a lot of people.

00:16:03.000 It ruined a lot of people's youth because if you're 16, 17 years old and you have to be locked in your house for two years, And you miss all the things that normal 16, 17, 18 year olds miss or do, and then come to find out it was for no reason, you feel like you got duped.

00:16:20.000 You feel like you can't trust anyone.

00:16:22.000 And so I completely understand why they're so skeptical and so like.

00:16:26.000 And then you toss on the fact that, to be honest with you, the government has lied to us a lot.

00:16:30.000 The Gulf of Tonkin was.

00:16:32.000 Yeah, a lot.

00:16:32.000 A lot.

00:16:33.000 All the time.

00:16:34.000 I mean, the government does.

00:16:36.000 You know, so I understand why they're so suspicious and so skeptical.

00:16:41.000 So, my point largely is again, if documents were uncovered that showed we never actually went to the moon, that was cover for spending $300 billion to make planetary stratospheric nuclear strikes on our enemies.

00:16:54.000 And we wanted them to know we could do it.

00:16:57.000 Because what the American people don't get for the most part on average, you talk to someone about the moon missions, they go, yeah, it was really cool, went to the moon.

00:17:04.000 What do you think the Russians were thinking when they saw this footage?

00:17:08.000 The first thing they said was, BLET.

00:17:10.000 Yeah.

00:17:11.000 What are the capabilities that they could launch one of these things?

00:17:14.000 Straight up in outer space and then come straight down onto Moscow. 0.56

00:17:17.000 And they're like, yeah, they could.

00:17:19.000 They have built a missile that can go to the moon and back.

00:17:22.000 So, that being said, if documents came out saying we never actually went and there was a soundstage for the purpose of a cover so we could build rockets to make nuclear bombs that come straight down, I'd be like, oh, that's entirely plausible. 0.55

00:17:35.000 However, I actually think if we can make rockets that can do that, there's not a firmament that's going to stop us from actually going to the moon.

00:17:43.000 And I do believe the moon missions.

00:17:45.000 There is a function for this.

00:17:46.000 Was it viable to plant weapons on the moon that could be used to launch strikes?

00:17:51.000 In the event US nuclear capabilities are destroyed, what if we had missile silos or a moon base or weapons that could be launched from the moon?

00:17:59.000 I think the real purpose of the moon landings, to be honest, my conspiracy theory is when they launched the return, what was it, the lander, it launched out.

00:18:08.000 They were testing whether or not they could deploy a weapon from the moon without needing a base.

00:18:13.000 You could deposit a weapon that lands on the moon and relaunch it at a later date with minimal energy, and it would just fly straight towards the Earth.

00:18:23.000 Are you guys familiar with rods from God?

00:18:25.000 Yep.

00:18:26.000 Yeah.

00:18:26.000 This is a theoretical weapon where we launch gigantic tungsten rods into orbit that we can then turn and drop using gravity.

00:18:34.000 That would have the power of what is it like?

00:18:37.000 10 orders of magnitude greater than your average bomb.

00:18:39.000 Yeah, that was.

00:18:39.000 It was theorized, but they found that it doesn't actually have as much.

00:18:43.000 It doesn't have as much stored kinetic energy as they thought.

00:18:45.000 Oh, that's not my understanding.

00:18:46.000 Was that what they said?

00:18:47.000 Because my understanding was that the amount of energy to get a gigantic tungsten rod into orbit was tremendous and to maintain its orbit was insane.

00:18:56.000 So they ultimately were like, it's just too much energy to hold in this pattern.

00:19:01.000 But if you landed something on the moon, you don't need that much energy to kick it off the moon.

00:19:05.000 So I'll just put it like this I don't understand why, like, just honestly, when you think about it, we have rockets, we have ICBMs.

00:19:13.000 I guess some people don't believe those exist either.

00:19:15.000 I don't think it's that difficult to just point it at the moon.

00:19:17.000 Like, they don't literally point at the moon.

00:19:20.000 They go like this.

00:19:20.000 They lead the target.

00:19:21.000 And the moon comes around.

00:19:22.000 They looped around and they're coming back.

00:19:24.000 Uh, I think it was largely weapons based, and we cheer it on as like, yes, it's just because we're doing great things.

00:19:31.000 Yeah, they're investing money into weapons technology and the like.

00:19:35.000 I'm not so sure about now.

00:19:36.000 I think that in the past, yeah, it was.

00:19:38.000 This particular kind of iteration of the space program, I think that the Trump administration really does want to see America do inspirational things again.

00:19:48.000 Whether it's a good thing or not is up for debate.

00:19:51.000 I will answer one easy question, too.

00:19:53.000 And the people go, if we went to the moon hockey, we've never gone back.

00:19:55.000 And it's just like, because we already invented the technology.

00:19:59.000 Weapons from the sky.

00:20:00.000 Like, we developed these weapons, tested them, perfected them to a great degree.

00:20:05.000 We don't need to make any more.

00:20:06.000 This was never about just going to the moon for the sake of going to the moon.

00:20:09.000 Yeah, now it's about building a moon base.

00:20:11.000 Now it's about building a moon base to mine rare earth minerals.

00:20:15.000 And then talking about launching it back, you can create a rail system where we can mine these minerals.

00:20:21.000 We can launch it back.

00:20:23.000 We could use probably moon rock so it doesn't explode in our atmosphere.

00:20:27.000 And then we're Completely energy dependent.

00:20:30.000 And if we get there before China, because China's going to get there, they're projected to get there about 2030.

00:20:35.000 And Artemis 4 is going to be, what did we say, 2028 is estimated.

00:20:40.000 And so we're quite literally, so China said that they're going to land 2030.

00:20:44.000 And their program is, they're looking to land 2030.

00:20:47.000 So we are actually in a race, in the AI race with China, we are now in a race to the moon because if they can do this and create this energy monopoly, it's whoever gets there first. 0.79

00:20:56.000 SpaceX is also looking to get into.

00:20:59.000 Well, they want the moon base also as a staging for Mars missions.

00:21:03.000 I will just add one thing.

00:21:04.000 It's like a fueling station.

00:21:06.000 I think they're going to build a slingshot on the moon.

00:21:08.000 Mass driver, they call it.

00:21:10.000 What is it?

00:21:10.000 They call it a mass driver.

00:21:11.000 That's what you must call it.

00:21:12.000 That's what you must call it.

00:21:14.000 It's like a, it's this gigantic arc shaped structure.

00:21:18.000 And inside of it, they have basically like a hammer that spins around super fast and then launches the object out of a tube using, you know, centripetal force.

00:21:30.000 And the thing about with the moon, you don't need that much energy to escape.

00:21:35.000 Lunar gravity.

00:21:36.000 So, and because with Earth's gravity being stronger, it'll drift straight towards the Earth, towards the target.

00:21:41.000 So, we could be launching materials back relatively easily.

00:21:45.000 So, we have to deploy resources to the moon for construction and for a moon base.

00:21:51.000 We're going to have to have vehicles for return missions for humans, of course, but for materials, they're going to launch them like on a slingshot.

00:21:57.000 You could have that spin launch thing where you fire off non organics through an accelerating magnetic.

00:22:07.000 Slingshot that you would need it, like a rail.

00:22:09.000 You would not need it, but you might be able to use it to speed up transit time.

00:22:12.000 So you just wait till it gets right to, just like you said, lead the target, and then you launch it through this tube.

00:22:17.000 These are things that send it like 10 times faster or 100 times faster.

00:22:22.000 And then you could catch it in a series of tubes.

00:22:23.000 They wouldn't need that, though.

00:22:24.000 That would consume a lot of energy.

00:22:25.000 They wouldn't need it.

00:22:27.000 Earth has gravity.

00:22:27.000 It's just going to pull the object in.

00:22:30.000 It would just take longer, but you wouldn't.

00:22:32.000 Who cares?

00:22:32.000 We're sending rocks from the moon.

00:22:33.000 I don't think we're going to be like, it's got to be here by tomorrow.

00:22:36.000 Avery, you were saying that you pad the materials with moon rock and you use that.

00:22:40.000 15 inches of moon rock.

00:22:41.000 15 inches.

00:22:42.000 So when it enters Earth's orbit, the moon rock will heat up and blow apart and the product will be okay.

00:22:46.000 Let's.

00:22:46.000 Yeah.

00:22:47.000 I want to jump.

00:22:48.000 We were getting into a little bit.

00:22:49.000 I want to talk about aliens, but I do want to talk about this a little bit more because I think it's important.

00:22:53.000 Candace Owens calls for extreme measure against mad King Trump.

00:22:58.000 Indeed. 0.97

00:22:59.000 She said, This is a satanic administration. 0.99

00:23:01.000 We all realize that satanic Zionists occupy the White House and Congress needs to move to have the mad king Trump removed. 0.98

00:23:08.000 All of our lives may depend upon other countries realizing that Trump is deeply unwell and surrounded by religious fanatics who have convinced him that he's a messiah. 0.77

00:23:15.000 We are in uncharted territory.

00:23:16.000 Leaders worldwide need to act accordingly.

00:23:18.000 I'm going to say this our top podcasts are anti America for the most part.

00:23:21.000 Screw it, Mark.

00:23:22.000 Very largely.

00:23:23.000 Candace is absolutely now, she's crossed the line. 0.98

00:23:28.000 Trump is the mad king who must be removed by all. 0.98

00:23:30.000 Other countries? 1.00

00:23:32.000 Okay, fair point.

00:23:33.000 She didn't say that explicitly.

00:23:34.000 But the implication is Congress needs to have him removed, and our lives may depend on other countries realizing that Trump is deeply unwell.

00:23:41.000 Started by religious fanatics.

00:23:43.000 It's not just her, but there are many prominent personalities.

00:23:46.000 I'm not going to name all the other podcasters.

00:23:48.000 She's just one of the more prominent ones, so she's going to get the name recognition.

00:23:52.000 But there are prominent personalities that I'm watching with these viral clips basically saying look, they're basically saying the U.S. is wrong, Iran is right. 1.00

00:24:01.000 And it is insane that that exists in our media and that it is sponsored, like that companies pay for these people to keep running this content, basically rooting for the destruction of this country.

00:24:13.000 And I want to stress, I'm not just saying podcasts that are like the war with Iran is bad.

00:24:18.000 I'm like, that's an opinion that was always allowed. 0.82

00:24:20.000 I'm talking about ones that are saying outright that our government is evil, that Trump is a mad king that needs to be stopped.

00:24:27.000 What distinction, what distinguishes Candace from any other leftist now?

00:24:33.000 Like nothing.

00:24:36.000 I don't know.

00:24:37.000 Her base, which is the scary part, is that people have gone, they've gone so black pilled though. 1.00

00:24:41.000 There's this like sect of conservatism that is not the antithesis of conservatism.

00:24:46.000 And they go down this black pill rabbit hole and they go into all these conspiracies and they don't trust the government so much that there's no distinction between fact or reality. 0.80

00:24:57.000 And Candace's audience is not liberal.

00:24:59.000 It's not conservatives.

00:25:00.000 No.

00:25:01.000 Anybody who's like, listen, go to a suburb, go to a purple.

00:25:05.000 Political suburb, and you're going to find a bunch of liberal women that go, I love Candace. 1.00

00:25:08.000 Anna Kasparian.

00:25:09.000 This is why I said she's not a conservative.

00:25:11.000 And I had, you know, Kyla was like, What do you mean she's not a conservative?

00:25:14.000 She makes a clip out of it.

00:25:15.000 And I'm like, Yeah, her audience is suburban women. 1.00

00:25:19.000 They're not conservative.

00:25:20.000 Blake Lively's relationship is not a conservative issue, right?

00:25:25.000 Brigitte McCrone being a man is not a conservative political issue.

00:25:29.000 And the drama of conspiracy with Charlie Kirk is only tangentially political.

00:25:35.000 Yeah, I was just like in Minneapolis covering the rights and all the white liberal women that I met.

00:25:40.000 All lefties, but they all listen to Candace and they all march to that beat of her drum.

00:25:46.000 I even saw some of the podcasters kind of in this space also even sharing like a story that even with this F 15 fighter jet rescue operation, that the US military was like trying to kill our own airmen on the ground and people like shared that. 0.98

00:26:00.000 And it seems like that type of content is just on this algorithm.

00:26:04.000 It just picks up.

00:26:06.000 Joe Kent shared a post from Iranian media saying, That the US was trying to kill this weapons officer before Iran could get to him.

00:26:19.000 And he posts this right before the guy gets rescued, and they're all screaming and cheering and celebrating.

00:26:27.000 So the question comes down to do you trust the Trump administration?

00:26:31.000 I'm going to tell you this I trust Trump infinitely more than I trust the Iranian government.

00:26:36.000 And it is crazy, Joe Kent's response.

00:26:39.000 So Jake Tepper calls him out and says, He's pushing this Iranian media source claiming that the US was trying to kill its own guy.

00:26:44.000 And he said Jake Tapper's job is to stop you from thinking critically.

00:26:48.000 You should be watching American media and Iranian media.

00:26:51.000 And I will say, I don't disagree, but I'm going to tell you Iranian media is outright lying about everything related to what we are doing because they are in the business of being our enemies and arming people in the region. 1.00

00:27:05.000 Now, look, if Iran wasn't arming Houthi rebels and giving militia groups weapons to kill people in the region, and you know, erase all of that.

00:27:13.000 Let's argue.

00:27:14.000 All of that may be propaganda.

00:27:16.000 If Iran wasn't blowing up civilians in this war, maybe I'd be inclined to believe something that their government or state media had to say. 0.66

00:27:23.000 But a fundamentalist country that marches in lockstep is not a country with what I would describe as trustworthy news.

00:27:30.000 In the United States, you have, as much as powerful people don't like it, Nick Fuentes gets his message out, CNN gets theirs out too, and you actually have choices within the American population that will give you contrasting viewpoints.

00:27:44.000 And for all of my complaints, we actually have.

00:27:48.000 We've got Crowder, who is obviously more pro Trump on this one.

00:27:52.000 CNN, not particularly pro Trump.

00:27:55.000 You've got Fox News, much more pro Trump, pro the war. 0.64

00:27:57.000 And you have Candace Owens, completely opposed to it. 1.00

00:27:59.000 So I'm going to say this state media from Iran, I think is trash, and you shouldn't be listening to it. 1.00

00:28:05.000 Let me clarify. 0.96

00:28:06.000 By all means, listen to it to understand what they are claiming.

00:28:09.000 I'm saying don't believe it, take it with a grain of salt. 1.00

00:28:12.000 The Iranian people think it's trash. 1.00

00:28:14.000 The Iranian population doesn't support it. 0.99

00:28:16.000 They're working against it's regime controlled media.

00:28:19.000 There's a big distinction to be made about.

00:28:22.000 We should be listening to what the North Korean media says.

00:28:24.000 They're trustworthy. 0.95

00:28:25.000 Crazy. 0.96

00:28:26.000 Look, I'm. 0.93

00:28:27.000 Like a good guy's.

00:28:28.000 MS Now, CNN, not trustworthy.

00:28:31.000 Okay.

00:28:31.000 Fox, you got to know what your sources are providing.

00:28:34.000 But in the United States, we've got so many different media sources.

00:28:37.000 It's a smorgasbord.

00:28:38.000 It's a pick your own adventure.

00:28:39.000 That's true, but that doesn't justify anything the government does ever, obviously.

00:28:44.000 Of course.

00:28:45.000 Blowing up of bridges and power plants, and this threat that he's going to obliterate their electrical grid.

00:28:51.000 Like, we're not at war with the Iranian civilianry, and we're supposed to be liberating them from a tyrannical government.

00:28:56.000 That's not the path.

00:28:57.000 Blowing up their power supplies is not the path.

00:28:59.000 That's not real.

00:29:01.000 We're all adults here.

00:29:01.000 We don't have to pretend like the U.S. is trying to free anybody.

00:29:05.000 The U.S. wants control of natural gas and oil around the world, and they will blow up whoever they have to to get it.

00:29:10.000 And if your concern about the war in Iran has to do with the morality of collateral damage and blowing up bridges, I respect that argument. 0.99

00:29:17.000 It is a good argument.

00:29:18.000 But the reason.

00:29:19.000 The Trump administration, or any administration in the US, comes out and says they hate us for our freedom or they're slaughtering protesters, is because they can't come out and say, Listen, we are going to force them to bend the knee so they stop arming extremists and they get their oil and energy on the global trade system.

00:29:36.000 And if we have to blow up their power plants to do it, we will.

00:29:39.000 But that'll teach them a lesson.

00:29:40.000 That's the mentality of what the US is willing, or the United States largely, is willing to do.

00:29:45.000 By all means, again, say it's bad.

00:29:47.000 They're not going to admit it.

00:29:48.000 But I will stress, we're all adults here.

00:29:50.000 We don't need to pretend that we're great heroes going to liberate the Iranian people. 1.00

00:29:54.000 Trump's never stated a regime change to be the goal, ever.

00:29:57.000 Also, the. 0.60

00:29:58.000 Well, he did a regime change.

00:29:59.000 He did after they dropped, they tried to blow up their nuclear bunker.

00:30:03.000 He said they wanted to do a regime change after that.

00:30:05.000 Do you know what a graphite string bomb is?

00:30:05.000 You're going to love this.

00:30:07.000 Negative.

00:30:07.000 So, a graphite string bomb, also known as a blackout bomb, is a non lethal weapon designed to disable electrical power grids by releasing conductive carbon filaments, graphite fibers, over power infrastructure.

00:30:19.000 He's not looking to blow up the power plants.

00:30:22.000 He's looking to take them offline.

00:30:24.000 These don't destroy them.

00:30:25.000 But, but, But that serves the same function that Ian's complaining about.

00:30:27.000 Well, it doesn't destroy them, though.

00:30:28.000 No, no, no, but taking them offline will kill diabetics overnight. 1.00

00:30:33.000 Yes, but it's not the same thing as actually destroying the infrastructure.

00:30:37.000 But blowing up bridges.

00:30:38.000 That's horrible.

00:30:39.000 Yes, but listen, here's the thing.

00:30:41.000 We're at war.

00:30:42.000 We're not technically starting at war.

00:30:44.000 Okay, come on.

00:30:45.000 We're out.

00:30:46.000 We're out.

00:30:46.000 The American government attacked them.

00:30:48.000 Actually, the Israeli government attacked them, and the Americans joined the U.S.

00:30:52.000 So hold on, hold on.

00:30:53.000 So is us attacking them, does that make us the aggressor who started the war?

00:31:00.000 Yeah, yeah, military operation.

00:31:01.000 Is it wrong of us to have done that?

00:31:03.000 Oh, God, that's a good deep question.

00:31:04.000 Well, I'm asking you what you think.

00:31:05.000 Do you think it was wrong of us to attack them?

00:31:08.000 I don't have all the info of what was going on with BB and Donald Trump with the United States attacked Iran.

00:31:14.000 Was it right or wrong?

00:31:15.000 I don't know if they had nuclear armament capability.

00:31:17.000 I don't know.

00:31:18.000 So I can't.

00:31:18.000 I don't know.

00:31:19.000 So I'm going to answer this for you.

00:31:22.000 The United States didn't just attack Iran.

00:31:24.000 Iran has been attacking U.S. interests and allies and our troops in the region for a long time.

00:31:28.000 And they've been arming groups that have attacked civilians.

00:31:31.000 There were civilian cargo ships being blown up in the Red Sea by Houthi rebels that Iran was giving weapons to.

00:31:36.000 And we did nothing for a long time.

00:31:39.000 Obama's argument was appeasement.

00:31:41.000 It was, let's cut a deal. 0.53

00:31:43.000 And then when Trump said, this deal is bad because they haven't stopped arming psychopaths who are bombing and killing civilians.

00:31:50.000 So he cuts the deal off.

00:31:51.000 And then Iran comes out and says, we had a deal and he broke that deal.

00:31:54.000 Marco Rubio hit the nail on the head with the hammer.

00:31:57.000 We told them, you can have nuclear power, we don't care.

00:31:59.000 But they weren't building above ground nuclear facilities like anybody else.

00:32:02.000 They weren't importing energy like everybody else.

00:32:04.000 They were building deep underground bunkers to enrich uranium.

00:32:07.000 At the same time, they were providing weapons to various factions that were attacking civilians.

00:32:12.000 Notably, again, I'm going to stress this.

00:32:13.000 Now, you've got all your arguments about Gaza and Israel on October 7th.

00:32:17.000 Fine.

00:32:18.000 After October 7th, and Israel launches their war into Gaza, whatever your opinions are, that's fine. 0.99

00:32:24.000 I'm not arguing that.

00:32:25.000 Iran starts arming Houthi rebels in retaliation who blow up cargo ships unrelated to any of the war.

00:32:31.000 That's why they are evil because they don't look at the war and say, We are going to fight you because you are fighting us. 0.97

00:32:38.000 They say, We will kill your families, we will kill children, and we will blow up your stuff, and we will blow up their stuff. 1.00

00:32:44.000 And so the U.S. goes, Okay, these people are nuts. 1.00

00:32:47.000 Right. 0.99

00:32:47.000 Ian, if I say, I want to fight you, we're going to have fisticuffs, and you say, and then you pull out a hammer and say, I will crack Card over the skull if you try it, I'm going to be like, bro. 0.99

00:32:56.000 But if you attack me and you leave your baggage train unguarded with the women and children, you better believe they're all dying. 0.99

00:33:02.000 They weren't our cargo ships.

00:33:04.000 They were other countries transporting goods through the Red Sea, and the Houthis bombed them because they were like, we will not let you have trade because Israel's at war with Gaza and the U.S. is allied.

00:33:16.000 We're going to bomb random civilians in the Red Sea and blow up their cargo ships. 0.90

00:33:20.000 I'm sorry, they're the bad guys. 0.98

00:33:23.000 We don't have to support Israel or be happy about what they're doing, but the idea that the retaliation against Israel is arming psychopaths to bomb civilians, I'm sorry, those are the bad guys.

00:33:33.000 And so the US finally gets involved in a war with Iran.

00:33:36.000 I am not suggesting we should have or that it was good.

00:33:38.000 My argument is we didn't just willy nilly start a war with Iran.

00:33:42.000 I'm not happy that we're involved with it.

00:33:44.000 I would like us to not be involved with it.

00:33:46.000 I'm concerned about the long term effects.

00:33:47.000 Gas is at $4, diesel is at $6 near us.

00:33:50.000 That's freaky and it's bad for us politically, and there are risks.

00:33:53.000 But again, I think it was the Bill Burr joke.

00:33:55.000 I can't remember who pointed out on the show that you can argue we shouldn't have gone into Iran.

00:33:59.000 But to say there's no reason, really?

00:34:02.000 No reason?

00:34:02.000 I think Iran has been evil.

00:34:05.000 It's just, it's evil.

00:34:07.000 Someone comes to you and they're negotiating, and they're negotiating with heavy power, but largely with soft power.

00:34:12.000 So you give a bunch of gangbangers guns, start shooting up a school.

00:34:15.000 How does that, how does, okay, now you're getting the boot.

00:34:18.000 And that's what's happening now.

00:34:20.000 Again, I think us getting involved in these things are, it's a roll of the dice.

00:34:24.000 It's very, very bad.

00:34:25.000 It's very dangerous.

00:34:26.000 But I will just say, To the people who think Israel controls our foreign policy, Donald Trump did not discombobulate Caracas and then seize Maduro to get access to all of their oil infrastructure because Israel wanted him to do it.

00:34:39.000 He did it because he knew the U.S. was going to make a move on Iran and Trump was going to regime change them. 0.71

00:34:45.000 Again, there are these arguments and the propaganda oh, they're killing civilians, there's protests, the people don't like it.

00:34:51.000 None of that is really relevant to what the military is trying to accomplish.

00:34:54.000 That's a narrative that works for regular people who don't pay that much attention to be told, we're the good guys.

00:34:59.000 I think any way you cut it, There's going to be collateral damage, which is bad, and the U.S. goes to great lengths to avoid it, but we are the good guys here.

00:35:06.000 Rant over.

00:35:07.000 My personal, I don't think there's good or bad.

00:35:10.000 It's like two power structures going at it.

00:35:11.000 It's like Roman, like we're like, look, bend the knee and become a client state. 0.75

00:35:15.000 They're like, no, we don't want your peaceful nuclear power.

00:35:18.000 We want our own weapons.

00:35:19.000 And let's, let me, let me, They kept trying to build weapons, so then now they're getting the boot.

00:35:19.000 We're like, then die.

00:35:40.000 No, they started giving weapons to lunatics who were bombing embassies and killing people. 0.98

00:35:43.000 They're using secret weapons programs. 0.98

00:35:45.000 Ian, if I go to you and I say, I'm going to give you your money back, you don't have to bend the knee, and then you plot a gun and shoot a kid, you're getting the boot.

00:35:45.000 I agree.

00:35:52.000 It's not the Klein State offer.

00:35:54.000 They were supplying roadside bombs during the Iraq war and blowing up Americans. 0.92

00:35:59.000 They killed like 300 people at the embassy in Lebanon in the 80s.

00:36:05.000 They've been an adversary for a long time.

00:36:08.000 And Obama tried the, we're backing off.

00:36:11.000 We're going to unfreeze billions.

00:36:13.000 The money is yours.

00:36:14.000 Just, I think this is a good opportunity for a ceasefire.

00:36:18.000 And they were like, thank you, thank you. 0.98

00:36:19.000 Make nukes and start killing more people. 0.89

00:36:21.000 We said that for a decade as they did.

00:36:23.000 You can say that it's a bad idea for the U.S. to do this.

00:36:25.000 That's totally legitimate.

00:36:26.000 But to say that the U.S. is just like, well, you have to be a client state, and if you won't, that's what we're going to do.

00:36:31.000 That's the economic hypocrisy.

00:36:31.000 That's just not.

00:36:34.000 That is not representative reality.

00:36:36.000 Like Iran has done things in the past and has done things recently.

00:36:41.000 That actually led to this.

00:36:43.000 Again, you can say that the U.S. shouldn't do it.

00:36:45.000 That's fine.

00:36:46.000 But the way that you're framing the situation is totally not true.

00:36:53.000 It's not that they're just like, oh, you have to be a client state or else we're going to do this.

00:36:56.000 That's not the case.

00:36:57.000 Oh, they said put down your weapons.

00:36:58.000 Basically, let us run your government.

00:37:01.000 There's one single reason to enrich uranium to pass the single digits.

00:37:05.000 And it's only to develop nuclear weapons.

00:37:05.000 One.

00:37:08.000 We said stop doing it, stop doing it, stop doing it.

00:37:10.000 They did it. 0.99

00:37:10.000 Iran is an octopus. 0.99

00:37:11.000 Iran's the head, and all their proxy groups are the tentacles. 1.00

00:37:14.000 After October 7th, Israel and the U.S. went after the tentacles.

00:37:18.000 We went after all of the proxy groups, and they got weak and weak and weaker.

00:37:22.000 And they felt it.

00:37:23.000 Their economy was plummeting.

00:37:27.000 Their currency was almost near zero at this point, hit zero.

00:37:32.000 And they were feeling it.

00:37:35.000 And so they didn't really have any other options in funding their other proxy groups because they didn't have the money because their economy is plummeting because of all the work that Israel and the U.S. did.

00:37:44.000 And so they're backed into a corner.

00:37:45.000 So they're They're backed into a corner and they say, What do we do?

00:37:48.000 How do we get out of this?

00:37:50.000 Race to nuclear.

00:37:52.000 There's one single reason, one reason only to enrich uranium past the single digits.

00:37:58.000 So the question then is with Obama, his administration for eight years going to the Iranians and saying, We're going to cut a deal.

00:38:04.000 We're going to unfreeze your money.

00:38:05.000 We're going to give the money back.

00:38:06.000 We're going to welcome you guys under the petrodollar system.

00:38:09.000 Some of the sanctions will be lifted.

00:38:11.000 You'll start making more money.

00:38:12.000 They immediately started enriching uranium.

00:38:14.000 That's why Trump got pissed.

00:38:15.000 He said, Now hold on.

00:38:16.000 We said we're backing off.

00:38:17.000 We're giving you your money back.

00:38:19.000 We're letting you develop economically.

00:38:20.000 We're putting your oil in the system and you immediately start making bombs.

00:38:24.000 You're lying to us.

00:38:26.000 I don't even feel a need to analogize a situation like this because I think it's obvious, but let's put it like this Ian, you live on a city street, and one block over, there's a guy who keeps giving guns to gangbangers, and they're shooting people with it, and they're robbing people.

00:38:40.000 And you go to him and say, Bro, if you keep doing this, we are going to lock you down.

00:38:46.000 We're going to stop letting delivery trucks come out of the street.

00:38:48.000 You're not going to have any food.

00:38:50.000 Stop doing this.

00:38:50.000 And they go, Oh, okay.

00:38:51.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:38:52.000 We'll stop.

00:38:52.000 So you say, Okay.

00:38:53.000 Then they keep doing it.

00:38:55.000 Then some kids get shot.

00:38:56.000 So you come over and you say, okay, we're cutting off deliveries.

00:38:58.000 You're not getting any delivers anymore.

00:39:00.000 We're not going to let you do transactions like we are shutting you down because you're giving weapons to people who are killing others.

00:39:06.000 And they say, oh, no, oh, woe is me.

00:39:08.000 So then your boy comes in and he goes, listen, this is not going to work.

00:39:11.000 Let's cut a deal with them.

00:39:12.000 Let's give them their money back, open things back up.

00:39:14.000 And they start buying RPGs.

00:39:16.000 And you're like, okay, hold on.

00:39:18.000 These guys are currently assembling some RPGs.

00:39:21.000 Let them do it.

00:39:23.000 Are you asking me?

00:39:24.000 Obviously, you don't.

00:39:25.000 Appeasement is not the.

00:39:26.000 The word of the day.

00:39:26.000 No.

00:39:26.000 So, do you want to be like Neville Chamberlain or do you want to be Winston Churchill?

00:39:29.000 They had their opportunity.

00:39:30.000 They missed it.

00:39:30.000 Who do you want to be, Neville Chamberlain or Winston Churchill?

00:39:33.000 I'm Churchill. 0.96

00:39:34.000 That means go to Iran and bomb it. 1.00

00:39:37.000 I'm somewhere in the middle.

00:39:38.000 Winston was a war man, he was a fighter.

00:39:41.000 This war really does boil down to a very high level question, and it's do you believe Iran should have the capabilities to develop nuclear weapons?

00:39:50.000 Dear, no.

00:39:51.000 Okay, so then that's really all this boils down to.

00:39:56.000 Yeah.

00:39:56.000 I mean, well, how we get rid of it is a big part of the debate.

00:40:01.000 You know, my concern with U.S. military foreign policy largely is around wanton actions, violence, collateral damage, but principally the failure of function.

00:40:13.000 And that is, Iraq was miserable, Afghanistan was doubly miserable.

00:40:18.000 Obviously, these moves against Iraq and Afghanistan, for anyone who's been paying attention, were a pincer strike against Iran because Iran has basically been funding all of the chaos and destabilizing the region. 0.83

00:40:28.000 Barack Obama's strategy with Syria and ISIS and was it Timber Sycamore?

00:40:33.000 Miserable American foreign policy across the board, just all the time.

00:40:37.000 And now you've got collateral damage in Iran.

00:40:39.000 That being said, the U.S. is the most moral and righteous country on the planet.

00:40:47.000 And in terms of global powers, historically, it is the most moral and it is the best.

00:40:53.000 Certainly, you can point to things that the U.S. has done that are bad.

00:40:55.000 I do it all the time.

00:40:56.000 Barack Obama ordered a drone strike.

00:40:58.000 Killing Abdulrahman al-Alaki. 1.00

00:41:00.000 And I think he did it because you want to send a message to the terrorists, we'll kill your kids. 0.99

00:41:03.000 I don't think that was a good thing. 0.97

00:41:04.000 I don't think he was a good person.

00:41:06.000 I don't think that the United States is a pure goodness all the time.

00:41:09.000 I just think that when you look at what China does, there is deranged psychotic evil and ethnocentric evil militaristic policies, like with the rape of Uighur Muslims in concentration camps and forced abortions and things like that.

00:41:23.000 Take a look at the conflict that's happening with Kashmir. 0.62

00:41:27.000 And it's not just Pakistan and India.

00:41:29.000 Don't get me wrong, the British were absolutely involved in that.

00:41:32.000 Historically, it looks like the US goes to painstakingly great efforts to be just, to be nice, to try and help people.

00:41:40.000 But some people don't want to be helped. 0.92

00:41:42.000 Some people are fundamentalist extremists who will kill you.

00:41:45.000 And that was certainly ISIS, and that was largely Obama's fault, his administration.

00:41:49.000 I just look at the US historically.

00:41:51.000 I look at the communists historically. 1.00

00:41:53.000 I look at the Nazis, the fascists, and you can go back way in time and you're like, man, the Americans are pussies. 0.99

00:41:58.000 Like, I'm sorry. 0.99

00:41:59.000 They've got tremendous, they've conquered tremendously, they've expanded.

00:42:02.000 We've dominated.

00:42:03.000 But my point is, when I say this, is not to be derisive and insult all that America is.

00:42:06.000 It's to point out that we are not particularly brutal.

00:42:10.000 We are fairly brutal, but compared to administrations of various governments past, we are the least brutal global hegemon.

00:42:17.000 Although I think the stories of World War II was that the Americans were the most terrifying guys to come into contact with because they were like a bunch of farm boys that would rip your throat out and they were happy to do it. 1.00

00:42:27.000 That's what the stories of the Japanese tell.

00:42:29.000 Maybe, but you take a look at the Japanese unit.

00:42:32.000 What unit was that?

00:42:33.000 What was that?

00:42:34.000 731.

00:42:35.000 731, was that what it was?

00:42:36.000 I think it was.

00:42:37.000 So you want to Google that?

00:42:38.000 Yeah, let me make sure.

00:42:39.000 The human experiments the Japanese were doing on them was nightmarish. 1.00

00:42:42.000 It was nightmarish.

00:42:43.000 Like the U.S. did not do these things.

00:42:46.000 But the U.S. had no problem recruiting them.

00:42:48.000 The Americans were bigger. 1.00

00:42:49.000 They were bigger than a lot of those Japanese guys.

00:42:52.000 So they were like scary as coming up the 731 units.

00:42:55.000 Yeah, it was 731, man.

00:42:56.000 The Nazi scientists were brutal and did human experiments.

00:43:00.000 It's crazy. 0.89

00:43:01.000 The Japanese as well.

00:43:02.000 Now, don't get me wrong.

00:43:02.000 Americans didn't do that.

00:43:03.000 I'm not going to pretend Americans didn't ever do anything that was untoward, bad, or wrong, like we know about the Tuskegee experiments. 0.71

00:43:09.000 Well, are we building chimeric alien life? 0.97

00:43:13.000 I don't know if we have this queued up.

00:43:13.000 Because this is another story.

00:43:15.000 Maybe that's what Epstein was doing.

00:43:18.000 I'm going to say this with all seriousness, and let's talk about aliens.

00:43:20.000 I'm going to say this with all seriousness.

00:43:23.000 It may be that one of the reasons they will not release the Epstein info is because the children are being trafficked for the explicit purpose of alien hybrid programs. 0.56

00:43:32.000 I'm only half kidding.

00:43:34.000 And the reason why I say I'm only half kidding is while I do not believe that's the case, with Matt Gaetz coming out and saying that they have alien hybrid programs, and now Tim Burchett is saying aliens are real, if those people are telling the truth, and have you seen all the crazy videos of stuff in the sky that's been going on?

00:43:51.000 Like, I think that's what Epstein was.

00:43:54.000 However, I would put that at an astronomically low percentage.

00:43:57.000 But let me do this.

00:43:58.000 We got this story from TMZ.

00:44:00.000 Rep Tim Burchett, aliens are real.

00:44:02.000 We've made contact.

00:44:03.000 I'm going to play this video and I'm going to jump ahead.

00:44:05.000 Let's play it.

00:44:06.000 Are you talking about a form of life that is not earthly or just something mechanical that's not earthly?

00:44:14.000 I'd say you'd be safe to say both.

00:44:16.000 The way you described this, whatever happened and this meeting, this briefing that was happening, was there something that if we knew, we would feel that we are in danger?

00:44:27.000 You said.

00:44:28.000 You wouldn't sleep at night if you knew the things that I saw in these briefings.

00:44:33.000 Yeah.

00:44:33.000 Should we believe that?

00:44:35.000 That's the part where it seemed alarming.

00:44:37.000 I don't think we're at danger of this.

00:44:40.000 I mean, if these things exist as I think they do, they could have destroyed us with a blink of an eye.

00:44:47.000 I just don't see that.

00:44:49.000 And I think that I just think, but I do think they have the technology and the capabilities of something that we can't understand or we can't grasp.

00:44:59.000 What I want to make sure I'm understanding is a member of our government has told you and others, I guess, that there is a form of alien life and machinery which maybe brought this living creature here that interacted in some form with people.

00:45:26.000 Yeah, they have.

00:45:27.000 And they've, it's pretty wild.

00:45:31.000 I know.

00:45:32.000 But I'm just telling you, I'm not going to lie to you.

00:45:34.000 I'd take a lie to tell you won't put me on a polygraph.

00:45:36.000 I'll take it.

00:45:37.000 But, you know, this is what the guy told me.

00:45:39.000 I mean, I've had a very high ranking naval official describe, you know, I've talked about this before, underwater craft, something big as a football field moving at over 200 miles an hour.

00:45:51.000 And there's no fish in the ocean that would do that.

00:45:53.000 We don't even have a sub that'll probably do 40 miles an hour under the, And the last thing he said before he left my office was, it was kind of weird because he didn't go out the side door, which nobody ever uses.

00:46:06.000 And he looked at me, he pulled me up close, and he said, Tim, they're real.

00:46:09.000 And that's the last thing he said to me.

00:46:11.000 That'll be the title of my book, I guess.

00:46:13.000 Matt Gaetz was involved in something here just recently.

00:46:16.000 He was interviewed and he talked about this interbreeding thing with.

00:46:23.000 Yeah, no, we saw that.

00:46:24.000 We saw that.

00:46:25.000 Well, you know, that's a true story.

00:46:28.000 That was a military thing.

00:46:29.000 A person, military personnel.

00:46:31.000 I think that would be a good story to talk to him about if you all can do that.

00:46:37.000 Right.

00:46:37.000 He says he learned that from someone in the military.

00:46:41.000 So, Tim Burchett, Aliens Are Real.

00:46:44.000 Well, I got some videos for you that I want to play.

00:46:46.000 And let's pull these clips in. 0.65

00:46:48.000 We've got this video, which is weird.

00:46:52.000 Check this out.

00:46:56.000 Something falling in the sky.

00:46:58.000 What could it be?

00:46:59.000 It could be a million and one things.

00:47:00.000 It doesn't mean it's aliens or anything like that.

00:47:02.000 But check this out.

00:47:03.000 You can see the point of impact.

00:47:04.000 You'll see it with the flash.

00:47:04.000 Just keep watching.

00:47:07.000 You saw that?

00:47:07.000 Bang.

00:47:09.000 This is purportedly the crash site of where whatever was falling landed.

00:47:17.000 I will stress it's the internet.

00:47:19.000 These things could be fake.

00:47:20.000 Where is it?

00:47:21.000 This was in the Jabun region of Indonesia.

00:47:25.000 So they're saying if it would have fallen at an angle if it was a meteorite, missile, or space debris, that's.

00:47:31.000 Not true.

00:47:32.000 A UFO crash.

00:47:33.000 Well, yeah, literally, we don't know what it was.

00:47:35.000 But then we've got this video.

00:47:36.000 Check this out.

00:47:49.000 So, what could that be?

00:47:50.000 That's something breaking up, clearly.

00:47:52.000 Yeah.

00:47:53.000 Yep.

00:47:53.000 That's not a meteorite.

00:47:55.000 So, there's been a bunch of speculation that maybe what's happening is.

00:48:01.000 One of the most reasonable things to assume.

00:48:03.000 With the conflict in Iran, Russia and China have begun using space weapons to blow up our satellite resources because GPS is military.

00:48:11.000 Or the U.S. is blowing up anything non U.S. that's up there.

00:48:15.000 We are at war in space.

00:48:16.000 We have a space force, and some people are speculating that all of these things people are seeing are not meteors.

00:48:23.000 It's we are at war in space.

00:48:25.000 We are blowing up our adversaries' space technology.

00:48:29.000 That would have to be a very sizable piece of equipment to make that kind of trail coming in and have that many pieces falling off.

00:48:36.000 Like, it's not small.

00:48:37.000 Like, that reminded me of one of the times that Starship blew up when it was returning to Earth.

00:48:40.000 Was that on return, that second video?

00:48:41.000 Or was that, it looked like it was on launch that it was breaking apart, but maybe it was just the angle of the video?

00:48:44.000 I don't know.

00:48:45.000 Take a look at this.

00:48:45.000 I have no way.

00:48:46.000 You tell me what this is, Ian.

00:48:47.000 Ian.

00:48:53.000 I. What is that?

00:49:09.000 It's really hot debris.

00:49:13.000 It looks like something cut through the cloud.

00:49:16.000 There's something in the sky.

00:49:18.000 That is weird.

00:49:19.000 Yeah.

00:49:20.000 That's crazy.

00:49:22.000 Luminescent debris of some sort.

00:49:24.000 It's just staying there, though.

00:49:26.000 Yeah, it's like a cloud of debris.

00:49:29.000 Maybe it's like a cloud of debris.

00:49:31.000 It looks like a spaceship.

00:49:31.000 Luminescent, maybe?

00:49:32.000 That looks more like a spaceship.

00:49:34.000 Everyone's saying it's a spaceship.

00:49:35.000 Oh, they are?

00:49:35.000 Yeah.

00:49:36.000 No, it looks like gas.

00:49:38.000 What?

00:49:39.000 It's like an airplane cut through gas.

00:49:41.000 The lights?

00:49:41.000 What?

00:49:42.000 Well, that is, it's an interesting shade.

00:49:44.000 It's like windows.

00:49:45.000 Yeah.

00:49:45.000 It's very symmetrical.

00:49:47.000 I wonder if it could just be the light from the buildings on the roof is just hitting the clouds and reflecting back.

00:49:55.000 You know, it's a video, a grainy video.

00:49:55.000 Yeah.

00:49:57.000 They might be working with that sound, the discombobulator sound tech from orbit and like vibrating upper atmosphere.

00:50:05.000 Well, I will say this whatever that is, I'm sure there's always a rational explanation.

00:50:10.000 However, why are all of these sightings happening right now?

00:50:14.000 Is it just that because people hear it in the news, they start reporting and looking in the sky?

00:50:19.000 Yeah, it is a psyop, I believe.

00:50:21.000 Tim Burchett was psyop by this Intel guy who came in and was like, tell people there are ends.

00:50:25.000 I wonder if Tim believes it or if he's like, I'm buying into the war propaganda now, I'm just going to play the part.

00:50:30.000 Or if he just believes it without questioning it or if he's lying.

00:50:34.000 War propaganda doesn't believe it and he's sitting there.

00:50:36.000 I think he believes it.

00:50:38.000 I think he believes it.

00:50:38.000 I do.

00:50:39.000 I think a lot of people believe this.

00:50:41.000 He said it was all the alphabet agencies that told him this.

00:50:43.000 So he's not saying it was just one person.

00:50:45.000 He said it was a bunch of off the record conversations.

00:50:47.000 That didn't sound like he believed it, right?

00:50:49.000 It sounded like, I don't know, sounded very passive.

00:50:52.000 He was kind of joking too and like laughing.

00:50:54.000 Well, I didn't sound like a serious reporter.

00:50:56.000 I think he knows it's crazy to say.

00:50:58.000 Yeah, I think, but I think someone did tell him this.

00:51:00.000 I think Matt Gaetz is telling the truth.

00:51:02.000 I just think their attitude is kind of like, what are we going to do about it?

00:51:06.000 Like you're pointing out, Ian, maybe military guys are saying, let's seed this story to create distractions.

00:51:12.000 People will care much more about aliens and focus on other things instead of war.

00:51:16.000 And they know a member of Congress.

00:51:18.000 I mean, listen, if aliens were real and they were going to tell them, they'd classify it.

00:51:21.000 It'd be top secret.

00:51:22.000 They'd bring them to a skiff.

00:51:23.000 They wouldn't just tell them.

00:51:24.000 So I'd be more inclined to believe.

00:51:27.000 They're seeding a PSYOP, like Ian's pointing out, not for war propaganda or anything, but for some kind of distraction.

00:51:31.000 He did it with Bob Lazar, too.

00:51:33.000 He went to Area 51, where he used to work, and he said that inside they brought him inside and they showed him what I think were drones, different designs.

00:51:40.000 And he's like, oh my God, with like metamaterials that hadn't been seen yet, you know, nanotech.

00:51:44.000 And so they told him they're alien craft, and they may have even put an animal or a stuffed animal or something in one.

00:51:50.000 And they were like, look, now we're talking about chimeras.

00:51:53.000 Hold on, I'm sorry, I'm sorry to interrupt, but they don't need metamaterials or nanoparticles.

00:51:59.000 All they need to do is go like this.

00:52:01.000 Ian, see my thumb?

00:52:02.000 Watch this.

00:52:03.000 Oh, look at my thumb.

00:52:06.000 Like, they literally just.

00:52:07.000 They don't work on me.

00:52:08.000 They do magic tricks.

00:52:09.000 Yeah, maybe they were doing that too.

00:52:10.000 I don't know.

00:52:11.000 But I do think they have advanced drone tech since they.

00:52:12.000 But do they really need it to distract Americans?

00:52:14.000 Americans are so distracted. 0.98

00:52:16.000 Of course.

00:52:16.000 Americans don't even know that.

00:52:18.000 A lot of the countries don't even know we're at war still.

00:52:20.000 There is a really great reason to make a fake campaign tricking Bob Lazar.

00:52:25.000 The first is the assumption that Bob Lazar is in on the whole thing.

00:52:28.000 And they said, here's the story we want you to present.

00:52:31.000 However, that's tough to maintain, right?

00:52:33.000 The easier thing to make someone a true believer would be to take a guy who should be contracted for this job, set up a stage, like not like a staging area, where you have a bunch of magic tricks and he sees them and you tell him they're real.

00:52:47.000 And then he runs to the media and leaks it.

00:52:49.000 Why?

00:52:49.000 Because the Soviets are listening.

00:52:51.000 Well, to be fair, at this point, I don't know that what year was this?

00:52:54.000 Bob Lazar?

00:52:54.000 Was this this post?

00:52:55.000 I don't know.

00:52:55.000 Yeah, this was post Soviet era, I believe.

00:52:59.000 But the point is, you make your enemies think you have advanced weapons and technology they can't account for.

00:53:04.000 It makes them scared to attack you.

00:53:05.000 So, what I would say is, my belief on Bob Lazar is they psyoped him.

00:53:09.000 They said, bring a guy in, do a magic show, right?

00:53:12.000 He says, a little green man was standing next to a vehicle.

00:53:15.000 Oh, a little green man, huh? 0.82

00:53:16.000 He's later retracted that saying, oh, I must have been mistaken.

00:53:19.000 Yeah, sure.

00:53:21.000 I think they make him see all these things that he wants to believe, and then they set him up to go and leak to a reporter, and it makes great news, and then everyone tells the world America has access.

00:53:29.000 To alien technology.

00:53:30.000 Sure.

00:53:31.000 He said he got up close to the one and he tried to put his hand on it and it pushed him away.

00:53:35.000 So, like, there could be vibration tech they're building, but it all could have been a magic show.

00:53:39.000 No, that's possible acoustic force fields.

00:53:41.000 Yeah.

00:53:41.000 I bet they had some.

00:53:44.000 I bet they had some.

00:53:45.000 Public in 1989.

00:53:47.000 No, it was just 1989 and then something else in 2003.

00:53:50.000 Now, the chimera stuff of like alien human hybrids or just like alien or human animal hybrids might be. 0.98

00:53:57.000 We were talking about is America the most ethical country on the planet?

00:53:59.000 We are.

00:54:00.000 It is.

00:54:00.000 Like, are we experimenting on, like, chimericizing humans with dogs and monkeys so that they can.

00:54:06.000 Is there a cosmic wave and stuff?

00:54:09.000 Acoustic levitation.

00:54:11.000 Yes.

00:54:11.000 You never see this?

00:54:12.000 You're focused on a point, and you can levitate something at that point in midair.

00:54:17.000 This is real, yo.

00:54:18.000 Oh! 0.60

00:54:19.000 Houston, we have levitation.

00:54:22.000 We just made this happen here.

00:54:24.000 The main concept here is standing waves.

00:54:26.000 Standing waves can happen anywhere you use the right frequency on a confined medium.

00:54:31.000 Like when you disturb a slinky at one end, the disturbance Or, the wave travels to the other end.

00:54:35.000 If I then constrain or bound the slinky at the other end, the wave will reflect back.

00:54:40.000 The places along the standing wave that aren't moving at all are called nodes.

00:54:43.000 The nodes here are the places where the air is not moving, even though it's moving a lot everywhere else around the node.

00:54:48.000 So, in our levitator, our little pieces of styrofoam and lint get held there at the nodes because if they're anywhere else, they'll get pushed back in or pushed out.

00:54:57.000 And there you have acoustic levitation.

00:55:00.000 Have you ever imagined if the U.S. government built a massive stadium sized acoustic levitator because we have the tech?

00:55:07.000 Why wouldn't they at least try it?

00:55:08.000 And then they had a UFO levitating, and they said, Hey, Bob, look.

00:55:11.000 And he went, Oh my God, it's levitating.

00:55:13.000 Can't move anywhere, you know, but it looks crazy.

00:55:16.000 I think if you move the standing waves, you can move it around, I think, in theory.

00:55:20.000 Yes, but you need emitters to move it.

00:55:23.000 It's not self propelling.

00:55:24.000 Although it would be interesting if there is a way to create a self contained acoustic wave generator that could create standing waves that could move, almost like a rudimentary warp technology that moves the waves, causing you to stick to the node and move around.

00:55:37.000 Yeah.

00:55:38.000 I think talking plasma, but for wave generation, for acoustics.

00:55:43.000 You would either have to move super fast or super slow.

00:55:47.000 Like, that's why super cold things can, they stop moving.

00:55:50.000 So they, then you can kind of spin really fast and reduce quantum locking.

00:55:54.000 Is that what you're talking about?

00:55:55.000 Jeez, I don't even know what you would call it.

00:55:56.000 There's so many terms.

00:55:58.000 I think it's called quantum locking.

00:55:59.000 There's something about reversing horizontal momentum or increasing horizontal momentum by spinning super fast that it reduces vertical momentum to zero.

00:56:07.000 And then you're able to kind of go wherever.

00:56:09.000 Quantum locking.

00:56:10.000 You notice it too.

00:56:11.000 If you spin like a really fast thing on a stick, it'll be really easy to lift, like hundreds of pounds.

00:56:15.000 Yeah, here, check it out.

00:56:18.000 Quantum locking.

00:56:19.000 Oh.

00:56:20.000 To become superconducting, the material has to be cooled to extremely low temperatures using liquid nitrogen, which can dramatically change the properties of materials.

00:56:28.000 Wow.

00:56:29.000 When a superconductor is placed into the magnetic field above a magnet, it expels all the magnetic fields from within itself, except for weak points where the magnetic field lines are locked inside.

00:56:39.000 When the magnet is moved, the superconductor will move as well to keep the magnetism locked in the weak points.

00:56:45.000 With a clever layout of magnets, the superconductor can be made to travel around a track.

00:56:50.000 The superconductor is first cooled before being placed onto the truck.

00:56:57.000 You only need one power in 70,000 to be superconducting, so a small superconductor can hold a huge weight.

00:57:02.000 Similar technology is already used in certain magnetically levitated trains.

00:57:07.000 But who knows what the future holds for quantum locking?

00:57:09.000 Maybe even Marty McFly and his hoverboard will be seen soon.

00:57:14.000 So the question then is if they can maintain ultra low temperatures, you could have frictionless motion.

00:57:20.000 I mean, the amount of energy.

00:57:23.000 Well, I guess the question is how much energy do you need to reach that low of a temperature?

00:57:26.000 It's probably greater than just driving the car.

00:57:29.000 But if we could ever find a way to keep temperatures artificially cooled to an extreme degree that you can quantum lock, then you would need a minimal amount of force to propel a train, like you already mentioned, or vehicles.

00:57:39.000 You know, they figured out how to decouple heat from electricity using graphene as a waveguide in last November.

00:57:45.000 Decouple heat from electricity.

00:57:47.000 So electricity is no longer hot in this medium.

00:57:49.000 You might be able to go super cool with that phenomenon.

00:57:54.000 Wow.

00:57:55.000 Yeah.

00:57:56.000 It's a cool story.

00:57:58.000 Cool indeed.

00:57:58.000 That's a heavy part of the Tism.

00:58:00.000 So, you know, what really gets me about all this alien stuff is just this idea, like as Tim Burchett's pointing out, that aliens are so technologically advanced that we are basically nothing.

00:58:12.000 And they've got something as big as two football fields moving 200 miles an hour underwater, and we can't even go 40 in a submarine.

00:58:19.000 It's almost like imagining you're on a sailboat seeing a plane for the first time, like you're on an old caravan in the 1500s, and a plane flies by.

00:58:28.000 You'd be like, what? 0.96

00:58:30.000 It must be like they're telling us, look, if they just came out and they were like, we have this technology, look, then the Chinese would be like, oh crap, they have the technology. 1.00

00:58:38.000 If you say it's aliens, the Chinese might actually believe it and then start defending against an alien attack that'll never come. 0.94

00:58:43.000 So, like, great, great, like, red herring.

00:58:46.000 Other than that, I'm just like, yo, be straight up with the tech we have and how dominant of a force we are.

00:58:50.000 I guess you just really can't.

00:58:52.000 Well, they want to keep that kind of stuff secret.

00:58:55.000 You know, you don't tell everyone the type of weapons that you have.

00:58:57.000 Because you can't just tell the American citizenry.

00:58:59.000 You can either tell the world or tell no one.

00:59:00.000 Yeah.

00:59:01.000 And that's why they tell no one.

00:59:03.000 You know, because I mean, look what happened in Venezuela.

00:59:06.000 There was all kinds of technology that the average citizen didn't know the US had when they went in there, you know.

00:59:12.000 Yeah, I wonder if this is just a PSYAP, it's a lie.

00:59:15.000 We actually do have it, it's American technology.

00:59:17.000 But it's the chimeras I'm interested in because I think those are real.

00:59:20.000 Human animal hybrids, Alex Jones has been talking about this for like 20, 30 years, long, long time.

00:59:24.000 Maybe they're genetically modifying people to be able to handle cosmic rays because they're like, they don't know how to get.

00:59:30.000 I feel like the government's not run efficiently enough to do something like this or pull something like this off.

00:59:30.000 Who's they?

00:59:34.000 Say it again.

00:59:35.000 If the private sector can't figure it out, the government is so inefficient, who's they?

00:59:39.000 Say it again.

00:59:40.000 Oh, really?

00:59:43.000 Well, there's a country in the Middle East that just get involved with Qatar.

00:59:47.000 It was Qatar all along. 1.00

00:59:48.000 I knew it.

00:59:49.000 It's Bahrain.

00:59:49.000 It's Kuwait.

00:59:50.000 It's Kuwait.

00:59:51.000 I think Bahrain.

00:59:52.000 Corporations, like deep seated military tech corporations that have super advanced quantum AI and stuff that we don't even know exist that are contracted by the government.

01:00:01.000 I think our government is so inefficient and so slow that there's just no way.

01:00:07.000 I really don't believe that.

01:00:08.000 I think what Phil brought up in that Venezuela operation is when Americans found out. 0.98

01:00:12.000 Holy crap. 0.90

01:00:13.000 The U.S. government has like that Havana syndrome. 0.98

01:00:15.000 I remember when that story came out a couple years ago in 60 Minutes, I was like, this is a PSYOP story.

01:00:19.000 But then it actually came out that, yeah, the U.S. now has possession of it.

01:00:23.000 So I think it's fair to say that the U.S. Discombobulator?

01:00:25.000 Yeah.

01:00:26.000 I love the name.

01:00:28.000 I think it's also fair to say that, you know, just because, you know, the U.S. hasn't, just because we saw those weapons doesn't mean that the U.S. doesn't have other things that we're totally unaware of, you know, haven't used yet.

01:00:41.000 The U.S. has cancer guns, right? 0.97

01:00:45.000 They can give you cancer from like.

01:00:47.000 I'm not going to get into details of how they do it because this story is well known in the public where a guy accidentally or intentionally made one of these things.

01:00:55.000 But they can make directional radiation, directed energy weapons.

01:01:00.000 They can literally point a weapon at you, and while you're sitting there eating food at a restaurant, blast you with ionizing radiation that will rip your internal organs to shreds.

01:01:10.000 And that's old, old tech.

01:01:12.000 Screw up your mind.

01:01:13.000 That's like a hundred year old technology. 0.94

01:01:15.000 You'll have leukemia in a week.

01:01:17.000 Yeah, there was this story.

01:01:19.000 That went super viral because of 4chan.

01:01:21.000 4chan found a Facebook profile from some woman and she was making an insane amount of posts. 0.64

01:01:26.000 The posts were all just incoherent rambling.

01:01:29.000 Like paragraphs, it would say something like, I went to the gym today, but I forgot my oatmeal spoon and the dog that ran past me was yelping.

01:01:37.000 So I went outside to take a look at the rainbow, but the rainbow was actually pointed down and I couldn't actually see the sewer.

01:01:43.000 And people are like, What is this?

01:01:44.000 It's like incoherent nonsense.

01:01:47.000 And there were a few theories.

01:01:49.000 One was that.

01:01:50.000 The profile existed as a means for covert agents to communicate in a coded language that no one would know how to find it.

01:01:57.000 So think about it.

01:01:58.000 It's kind of crazy.

01:01:59.000 If you're a spy working for a foreign government and you're in a country and you need to communicate with your handlers, you pull up, you need to receive orders, for instance.

01:02:06.000 You go to Facebook, you just browse in Facebook, you read a Facebook post.

01:02:11.000 How are they going to know that the post that you were serving on Facebook was the message?

01:02:15.000 And so you see this coded language.

01:02:17.000 But the craziest theory.

01:02:20.000 Some claimed this woman worked for Canadian intelligence, the Canadian government at some point.

01:02:25.000 And then abruptly her career ended.

01:02:28.000 And the conspiracy theory was when they burn a spy, they need to, like, if so, burning a spy is basically we're cutting you off, you're done.

01:02:38.000 If they don't want to kill you or killing you could cause an incident, a scene, or draw attention, they induce psychosis with a drug cocktail.

01:02:48.000 So they'll break into your house, pin you down, inject you. 0.99

01:02:51.000 And fry your brain. 0.99

01:02:52.000 And so she's sitting there typing out what she thinks is this is what they did to me, but all it is is incoherent babbling about nonsense. 0.99

01:03:01.000 Or she's schizophrenic. 0.82

01:03:03.000 That's true too.

01:03:05.000 Always a possibility, but not nearly as fun.

01:03:06.000 Yeah.

01:03:07.000 Just kind of mundane.

01:03:08.000 Yeah.

01:03:08.000 But wouldn't that be exactly how you dispose of a spy that you could not take out?

01:03:13.000 If there was an individual that worked in Intel and they said, listen, we can't take this person out because it would cause a scene, people would find out.

01:03:20.000 So what do you do? 0.71

01:03:21.000 Induce psychosis, make them just another crazy person who can't explain anything. 0.90

01:03:27.000 And then they're grabbing Ian in their mind. 0.68

01:03:30.000 They're saying they have biological weapons they're going to unleash and it's going to be unleashed in 2020. 0.76

01:03:34.000 I'm warning you.

01:03:35.000 Ian's sitting there and hears banana, oatmeal spoon, dogs, dog saliva. 0.84

01:03:40.000 And Ian's like, this person's crazy.

01:03:44.000 Ian would totally be like, I get it, man.

01:03:46.000 I'm right there with you.

01:03:48.000 You're speaking my language, brother.

01:03:50.000 I feel you.

01:03:51.000 Hell yeah.

01:03:52.000 Ian's the one person who can translate psychosis language to English.

01:03:56.000 And then the handlers are like, wait, what's happening?

01:03:59.000 And then Ian starts writing down everything she's saying, but perfect translation.

01:04:03.000 How is he doing this?

01:04:05.000 Psycho babble.

01:04:06.000 Ian's like, I learned how to speak psychobabble after my fifth DMT trip.

01:04:10.000 Well, Tim, there's one story of that one journalist who followed the Charles Manson story.

01:04:16.000 Charles Manson?

01:04:17.000 Yeah, Charles Manson.

01:04:18.000 And I guess when he was working that story, he found the MKUltra and instances where, like, U.S. military service members who had clean records throughout their whole lives all of a sudden were found with the psychosis.

01:04:30.000 I believe one airman ended up sexually assaulting a young girl, even though he had no criminal history, no recollection.

01:04:36.000 And I think it's kind of maybe connected to a little bit of that the whole MKUltra and LSD.

01:04:43.000 You know what I mean?

01:04:44.000 When there's individuals, like Tim said, where you can't take out because it costs too much of a scene or there's too much connected to that story, this is kind of a way to flip that individual.

01:04:51.000 I'm sorry.

01:04:52.000 I think it's all just greater earth.

01:04:53.000 You guys, we've talked about this before.

01:04:55.000 I talked about it earlier today.

01:04:56.000 You know what greater earth theory is?

01:04:57.000 No.

01:04:58.000 I love it.

01:04:58.000 It's one of my favorite conspiracy theories.

01:05:00.000 The idea is that the ice wall is a real thing, but the earth isn't flat.

01:05:04.000 The earth is actually massive, and the seven continents we know are surrounded by a giant ring of ice where the great nations of Tartaria and Atlantis use us as slave labor to mine gold.

01:05:15.000 I do know this.

01:05:16.000 So, Earth is round and we are just slaves.

01:05:16.000 Yeah.

01:05:21.000 And the reason why, as Harry Tunman said, I freed many slaves.

01:05:23.000 I would have freed many more if only they knew they were slaves. 0.89

01:05:27.000 If you want to have an effective slave population, they can't know they're slaves.

01:05:30.000 They have to think they're free.

01:05:31.000 So we are basically just chickens in a chicken coop doing manual labor and mining gold for the great nations that are immortal, that fly around and can do whatever they want whenever they want.

01:05:40.000 That's why you got to eat gold.

01:05:42.000 They'll be like, hey, don't sample the product, man.

01:05:44.000 And you'll be like, don't sample the product.

01:05:46.000 This one's free.

01:05:47.000 You got to drink gold slogger, right?

01:05:48.000 Well, I do monoatomic gold.

01:05:50.000 It's suspended in water.

01:05:51.000 And it's like one part per second.

01:05:51.000 Yeah.

01:05:53.000 And what does it do?

01:05:54.000 Well, I've heard that it goes through the blood brain barrier.

01:05:56.000 It coats the neurons.

01:05:57.000 It goes through the blood brain barrier?

01:05:59.000 It coats the neurons and makes them superconduct.

01:06:01.000 So it's really good for that.

01:06:02.000 From what I noticed when I was stretching, it would feel like when I would go to tear a muscle because I was stretching too far, it would seep into the muscle and fill it like clay.

01:06:11.000 And I could stretch super far when I had gold in my system.

01:06:15.000 And then my pee was gold.

01:06:16.000 And I drank so much that my voice started to rust.

01:06:19.000 I was like, all right, you got to go easy.

01:06:20.000 What?

01:06:20.000 It's great content.

01:06:21.000 It's great content.

01:06:22.000 I was like, why do I sound so rusty?

01:06:26.000 It sounds so rusty.

01:06:27.000 It's rusty.

01:06:29.000 Bro, gold doesn't oxidize.

01:06:30.000 No, it doesn't go deep.

01:06:32.000 It's awesome.

01:06:33.000 It just inertly passes through your system.

01:06:35.000 It doesn't.

01:06:36.000 I don't care what he believes.

01:06:37.000 Check monoatomic gold.

01:06:37.000 Let him believe it.

01:06:38.000 It's way funner when he believes it.

01:06:39.000 All right, let me read this.

01:06:40.000 There's no credible scientific evidence that monoatomic gold exists as described or produces these effects.

01:06:46.000 Gold is a metal that normally forms clusters or nanoparticles, not stable, isolated single atoms in the way it claimed.

01:06:52.000 True monoatomic elements are limited to noble gases like helium or argon.

01:06:56.000 Claims of orbitally rearranged states or 44% mass disappearance during production lack an imminent verification.

01:07:03.000 Metallic or colloidal gold is chemically inert in the body, it passes through the digestive system largely unchanged.

01:07:03.000 Let's see.

01:07:09.000 It's not absorbed into the bloodstream or brain in meaningful amounts.

01:07:13.000 It has no known biological role or superconducting effect inside cells.

01:07:17.000 Yeah, that's colloidal, meaning it's two or more gold atoms.

01:07:22.000 Monoatomic, from what I'm told, it will go through.

01:07:25.000 I don't know if it's true or not.

01:07:26.000 I haven't been able to do the tests.

01:07:28.000 Colloidal is easier to get.

01:07:29.000 I have tried it, at least in the past.

01:07:31.000 So you don't know what it does.

01:07:33.000 I'm the test subject.

01:07:33.000 I'm a shaman.

01:07:34.000 I'll try a little bit here and there to see.

01:07:36.000 But a guy told me to do it.

01:07:37.000 And I was like, I'm into colloidal metals.

01:07:39.000 They mine so much gold out of the earth that we don't have it in our diet anymore.

01:07:42.000 So we get our iron.

01:07:43.000 What kind of guy?

01:07:44.000 You get like trace minerals and elements.

01:07:46.000 Bro.

01:07:47.000 We're missing gold.

01:07:48.000 I watched this.

01:07:49.000 They touch it to their skin because it goes through your skin like gold crowns and rings.

01:07:53.000 I watched the best baking video ever. 0.67

01:07:57.000 It was a guy making modern American bread, and it's disgusting.

01:08:02.000 This is like a turn.

01:08:03.000 Hold on.

01:08:03.000 No, no, no, no.

01:08:06.000 To make modern American bread, it's a whole bunch of insane chemicals.

01:08:09.000 You don't even know what it is.

01:08:10.000 And he's mixing weird, disgusting things.

01:08:10.000 Oh, God.

01:08:13.000 He's like, he took.

01:08:14.000 He took flour and he's like, now we have to bleach the flour with chlorine gas.

01:08:14.000 Poisoning us.

01:08:18.000 And he takes flour and he pumps chlorine gas into it and it turns white.

01:08:22.000 It's nasty. 0.83

01:08:23.000 He's mixing all the weird garbage into it. 0.98

01:08:25.000 And I'm like, this is what you're eating. 0.99

01:08:28.000 That's disgusting.

01:08:29.000 I don't want to eat it.

01:08:30.000 So, anyway, the point, the reason I bring this up is because what reminded me of it is he says after we bleach the flour, we have to add vitamins to it because all the vitamins have been stripped from the earth.

01:08:39.000 Oh, very.

01:08:40.000 Wheat used to have vitamins in it and you'd eat it.

01:08:42.000 And then this guy who, Norman Borlaug is his name, and he's the perfect example of like a goody two shoes communist.

01:08:51.000 So, he's not a communist.

01:08:52.000 What he did was he did selective breeding to quadruple crop yield for wheat.

01:08:58.000 And what this did was maximize starch production.

01:09:01.000 Allowing more people to have access to food, but the amount of nutrients and minerals remained static for the area where the crops were being grown.

01:09:08.000 Thus, we now have large populations of nutritionally devoid, morbidly obese people.

01:09:14.000 And he's heralded as like a great man who saved billions of lives by creating this crop yield, expanding it.

01:09:19.000 But in reality, it just made food worse.

01:09:22.000 Yeah, like growth at what cost?

01:09:24.000 I get into the need.

01:09:24.000 All the rare earth metals like iridium, rhodium, platinum, palladium, you can eat them because they used to be in the soil pretty, you know, and then the humans mined a lot of it out, so you don't get it.

01:09:35.000 But I don't know.

01:09:36.000 You know, the FDA hasn't like come out and been like, you gotta get your colloidal gold, but there's a lot of people that talk about metals.

01:09:42.000 And I've noticed like.

01:09:43.000 I want to try, bro.

01:09:44.000 It's gonna help me with my stretching.

01:09:45.000 Yeah, iridium and ruthenium.

01:09:47.000 I'm gonna try this out of taco.

01:09:49.000 Phil's rocking.

01:09:50.000 Phil's rocking.

01:09:51.000 The golden taco, man.

01:09:52.000 I got manic when I was taking gold.

01:09:53.000 I wanted to give it to people.

01:09:54.000 I'd like buy people colloidal gold, and I'm like, you gotta try this.

01:09:57.000 It's so good for you.

01:09:58.000 But I went a little crazy because I was so into it.

01:10:01.000 But see, the other ones like iridium and ruthenium, I think, repair your DNA.

01:10:04.000 I could be wrong, but if you read about each of these, give me that manly voice, bro.

01:10:07.000 Give me more manly voice, little. 0.97

01:10:09.000 No, it made it horny. 0.97

01:10:09.000 Gold? 0.97

01:10:09.000 Yeah. 0.97

01:10:10.000 It made it go like, sound like it was rusting like this, kind of a little more.

01:10:13.000 Oh, then it took like a couple days.

01:10:15.000 And I think that's just a placebo effect.

01:10:16.000 I think you did that.

01:10:17.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:10:18.000 The pee was gold, dude.

01:10:19.000 It was like, whoa.

01:10:21.000 My toilet bowl is like gold. 0.98

01:10:22.000 I had a friend once and we were going for a job interview and he was a big pothead.

01:10:27.000 So he bought one of those cleanses where you'd slam it and then like a week later they claim you'll pass your test or whatever.

01:10:33.000 But he slammed it like a day before the drug test.

01:10:37.000 And so we went in for the P test, and I don't smoke or do any drugs, so I didn't care.

01:10:43.000 But he said that his piss was neon green, and they looked at him, and he was like, I drink a lot of Mountain Dew.

01:10:49.000 And they just like rolled their eyes because all that means is you have high B vitamins, and that was it.

01:10:54.000 But he like didn't understand that.

01:10:56.000 So let's jump to this next story.

01:10:59.000 This is an old article from Bounding into Comics Angel Studios and Andy Circus face criticism for Animal Farm cast and comedic tone.

01:11:07.000 Well, Some news has occurred and it involves me, and I think it's worth talking about.

01:11:13.000 The first thing I'm going to say is they have announced the date for the release of this pro communist film, Animal Farm.

01:11:20.000 Unreal.

01:11:21.000 And we had been asked to read ads for it on this show.

01:11:24.000 Now, I'm a huge fan of Angel Studios.

01:11:26.000 They do a lot of really great work.

01:11:28.000 Not everything they do is perfect, but that's okay.

01:11:31.000 And their members saw this film and voted to purchase it for distribution because it's Animal Farm.

01:11:39.000 For those that aren't familiar, I assume most of you are, it's the classic George Orwell novel.

01:11:42.000 That is an allegory for the Bolshevik Revolution and how communists are bad.

01:11:46.000 The story is wholly just about how communists are bad, and that's about it.

01:11:51.000 This film is an anti capitalist film that is actually pro communist, or at least I would call it like pro agenda 2030, pro WEF, the whole stakeholders, you will own nothing and be happy kind of mentality.

01:12:04.000 And what happened was when the trailer was released several months ago, it was heavily criticized by everybody, hence this article, because the trailer shows there's a new villain.

01:12:15.000 Elon Musk's mom driving a cyber truck.

01:12:17.000 Not an exaggeration.

01:12:18.000 Literally, Elon Musk's mom.

01:12:20.000 What?

01:12:21.000 Elon Musk's mom is the villain.

01:12:22.000 It's not even a joke.

01:12:24.000 Her name's not Mae Musk.

01:12:25.000 Shout out to Mae Musk.

01:12:25.000 No.

01:12:26.000 It's Pilkington's mom.

01:12:27.000 Guys, shout out.

01:12:28.000 She's been put through hell.

01:12:28.000 She's great.

01:12:30.000 Take a look at Pilkington, the character in the trailer, and take a look at Mae Musk.

01:12:34.000 It's a cartoon version of her.

01:12:36.000 She's driving a cyber truck. 1.00

01:12:38.000 That's.

01:12:39.000 I'm just.

01:12:40.000 It's literally a cyber truck.

01:12:41.000 It's got wheel wells on it, but we all know what they were going for.

01:12:45.000 The film is.

01:12:46.000 Explicitly anti capitalist.

01:12:49.000 And so, following the criticism, I critiqued it.

01:12:54.000 So, I shouldn't say following the criticism, but everyone critiqued it, including myself.

01:12:58.000 So, they reached out to our ad team to buy ads, which I respect.

01:13:03.000 And we've done ads, we've promoted for them before.

01:13:06.000 And this one, the script was basically like, you know, make this in your own words.

01:13:11.000 Here's what we want Tim to effectively explain.

01:13:14.000 What they wanted me to do was to say that I was wrong for critiquing the film before seeing it.

01:13:18.000 And to be a little bit self deprecating, and then tell people that I did see it and that the movie is actually good.

01:13:26.000 They sent me a screener to watch before the ad.

01:13:29.000 So it's somewhat above board.

01:13:32.000 I say somewhat because they knew that I was critical of the trailer.

01:13:36.000 And I suppose their view was if Tim sees the film, he'll change his mind.

01:13:40.000 So let's ask him to watch the film and then he'll change his mind and then we'll pay him to do it.

01:13:44.000 No, I watched the film and in the first five minutes, I turned it off.

01:13:44.000 Did you?

01:13:50.000 I was.

01:13:51.000 Insanely offended that they would even suggest my mind would be changed from watching this.

01:13:58.000 I immediately messaged Callan, our producer, and you know, he runs all the ads and all the production.

01:14:02.000 I said, Bro, we can't, I can't do this.

01:14:04.000 It is nuts.

01:14:04.000 I was like, I can't even make it five minutes.

01:14:06.000 It's so thick, the anti capitalism.

01:14:09.000 And so I said, You know, no, I'm gonna finish it.

01:14:12.000 Turned it back on, finished the movie. 0.99

01:14:16.000 Holy crap. 0.98

01:14:17.000 It's pro communism entirely, and it's wholly anti capitalism. 0.75

01:14:22.000 I don't want to spoil any of the movie bits, so I'll keep it for the most part to things you may have seen from the trailer.

01:14:28.000 But I will just say this The main villain is Elon Musk's mom, a corporatist, and the motivations behind the bad guys are finance, financially related.

01:14:39.000 The exploitation is not communist related, it is monetary and capitalist.

01:14:44.000 The struggles the animals face are based on monetary policy and not.

01:14:48.000 Communist political revolution.

01:14:50.000 It is entirely.

01:14:52.000 The movie starts with a critique of banking and finance and capital.

01:14:58.000 And one of the antagonists is working for the bank.

01:15:04.000 And the main villain is a corporatist who's trying to buy everything. 0.99

01:15:08.000 The pigs are effectively henchmen. 0.99

01:15:11.000 And I will just say that the ending is just bonkers insane. 0.99

01:15:18.000 It's not family friendly.

01:15:20.000 Not absolutely not.

01:15:21.000 This is not a movie for kids.

01:15:24.000 There's elements of leftist terrorism in it.

01:15:27.000 And I would argue that the message is capital structures are inherently bad and you must kill everyone to accomplish your goals of freeing the people from their oppression. 0.99

01:15:38.000 And I'm like, yeah, that's all just literally Marxist garbage. 0.96

01:15:41.000 I read this in 2003. 0.96

01:15:44.000 And so it's been a long time, but I remember the villain was the main pig in the book.

01:15:49.000 Yeah, not in the movie.

01:15:50.000 Uh, the farmer, it was sort of like it shows you the danger of capitalism in the very beginning because the farmer has become like this monarch, and they're like, they've had enough, he's mismanaging the farm, they chase him off the farm.

01:16:01.000 So, like, okay, we get it, there are problems with capitalism.

01:16:03.000 And then the communism starts to seep in the vanguardism, and the whole thing's about the internal struggle of the farm.

01:16:09.000 There's very little external force of capital in that.

01:16:12.000 Oh, bro, but you started by saying that the farmer is a monarch, he was like the yeah, it's like the capitalist monarch, you know, the corporatist, and it's like, but that's not the beginning of the book, they kick him out right away, yes, but he's not a capitalist.

01:16:23.000 He's the owner.

01:16:24.000 Yeah, he's the owner. 0.95

01:16:25.000 He rules over the farm and he's a drunkard who forgets to feed the animals and generally mistreats them.

01:16:30.000 So they have a revolt against him and take over.

01:16:32.000 Not in the movie.

01:16:32.000 Yeah.

01:16:33.000 The monarch thing went over his head.

01:16:34.000 Bro, I don't want to spoil parts of the movie, but let me just say Farmer Jones in the film is actually a victim of capitalism.

01:16:43.000 He is portrayed as a victim of capital.

01:16:45.000 No, he was a victim of his own infertility, I think.

01:16:49.000 It's really amazing how they are trying to trick people.

01:16:53.000 I think the film, not necessarily the Angel Studios.

01:16:56.000 Here's my genuine thought.

01:16:57.000 On what happened.

01:16:58.000 I could be wrong.

01:16:59.000 Well, the Harmon Brothers, founders of Angel, have asked to come on and talk about this.

01:17:04.000 I said, absolutely, because we're fans.

01:17:06.000 They've done great work in the past.

01:17:07.000 I think this was just a flub.

01:17:09.000 And here's what I think happened I think that.

01:17:13.000 Hollywood produces an Animal Farm movie with the explicit intention to trick families into bringing their kids into a pro communist film and destroying the message of Animal Farm.

01:17:23.000 I believe that this production is so thick, the anti capitalism, like they're hitting you over the head with it.

01:17:30.000 It's just screaming.

01:17:31.000 With Elon Musk's mom as the villain driving a cybertruck.

01:17:33.000 I mean, dude, it's just so overt.

01:17:35.000 There's things, again, I don't want to spoil it because the movie's not out, and I wasn't asked to do a strong review of it.

01:17:39.000 I think Hollywood said, how do we make kids communist?

01:17:43.000 Well, first, we destroy the culture of America.

01:17:46.000 George Orwell was not by any means a strong capitalist, but he did criticize the Bolshevik Revolution and communism masterfully.

01:17:53.000 Let's destroy that cultural work, make a film which should supplant the movie.

01:17:58.000 I'm sorry, supplant the book, and we'll change the narrative, keeping some of the key story elements, but making it explicitly anti capital instead.

01:18:07.000 I think that Angel Studios gets word that Animal Farm is being adapted, and it's got a bunch of A list of celebrities, and they think, Anti communist story right up our alley.

01:18:17.000 A listers, let's acquire the rights.

01:18:19.000 The Angel Studios members, according to them, said that they approved it.

01:18:24.000 I think that at the head of the higher ups, I don't think they watched the movie before they acquired it.

01:18:32.000 Again, just my opinion, I'm probably wrong, but it seems to me like what really happened, and again, maybe not the case.

01:18:38.000 I don't want to say I know for sure.

01:18:41.000 When they heard that Animal Farm was going to be available, they were like, we have to have this.

01:18:45.000 So they bid on it without understanding or seeing the full film.

01:18:49.000 Once they acquired it and committed massive amounts of money to the distribution and contractually obligated, then they learned everyone's like, this is pro communism. 0.90

01:18:57.000 And then they're like, crap, what do we do?

01:19:00.000 You got a distribution contract for a big film. 0.93

01:19:02.000 You're going to lose money if you don't.

01:19:02.000 You purchased it.

01:19:04.000 And depending on how the contract is structured, you could be in breach if you don't distribute it properly because you've agreed to do that.

01:19:10.000 So I wonder if what actually happened is they know full well, and that's why they reframed it as anti cronyism.

01:19:17.000 That's what Angel Studios has been calling it.

01:19:19.000 Oh, it's anti cronyism because the capitalist structures are actually not really capitalist.

01:19:24.000 They're, you know, monopolies.

01:19:26.000 They're cronyist.

01:19:27.000 No, government never plays a role in this whatsoever.

01:19:30.000 Not one time does anything with government happen where the government teams up with corporations.

01:19:36.000 In fact, wholly, the whole thing is more so a critique of private equity structures. 0.98

01:19:41.000 I will put it like this In the book, the pigs are communist revolutionaries. 0.96

01:19:45.000 They tell everybody we're equal. 0.99

01:19:47.000 In the movie, there's a pig who says everybody who's equal. 0.95

01:19:47.000 Nope. 0.95

01:19:51.000 And this is in the book, too, by the way, so I don't consider it a spoiler.

01:19:54.000 Snowball gets cast out.

01:19:56.000 Snowball is the true.

01:19:57.000 It's my hero, dude.

01:19:58.000 Yeah, Snowball is the true revolutionary, and Napoleon is the power hungry. 0.95

01:20:03.000 The movie is basically Snowball says, We're all equal.

01:20:05.000 And Napoleon's like, No, we're not.

01:20:06.000 And then basically, he private equities the farm.

01:20:09.000 So, not spoiling anything, but instead of it being about a communist revolutionary where the dictator takes over to steal everything, this movie is about some people who start a private equity firm.

01:20:20.000 And that's the.

01:20:23.000 That's what the story's about.

01:20:24.000 And there's a big, shocking leftist terror attack.

01:20:29.000 And, you know, I don't want to say too much.

01:20:32.000 A lot of death, a lot of murder.

01:20:34.000 Sadness.

01:20:36.000 No, they're not sad.

01:20:37.000 Boxer works pretty hard.

01:20:39.000 Boxer, the big horse.

01:20:41.000 Yeah.

01:20:42.000 Sad story.

01:20:43.000 Is there suffering?

01:20:44.000 Is the suffering highlighted?

01:20:45.000 Nope.

01:20:48.000 They don't really highlight any suffering at all.

01:20:51.000 In fact, it's more like.

01:20:53.000 So it's a lie.

01:20:54.000 Is there anything about it?

01:20:55.000 I'm going to spoil a little bit.

01:20:57.000 I have to spoil just a little bit.

01:20:58.000 Wait.

01:20:58.000 The critique of the film.

01:20:59.000 Never mind.

01:21:00.000 The critique of the film is that the animals are working and the pigs are taking a profit and going to the mall with it.

01:21:00.000 Just do it.

01:21:06.000 And the animals are upset that the pigs are using the excess revenue for.

01:21:11.000 They're using the profit to enrich themselves, which I suppose the argument is well, that's what the communists do, but that's not what the film is about.

01:21:18.000 The film is literally like, the endos being like, we're doing all the work, but they're taking the profit from us.

01:21:23.000 And I'm like, oh my God.

01:21:26.000 It is explicit, explicitly.

01:21:29.000 And the ending is basically the fake, the new characters that are added to the movie that are not in the books are basically, they may as well end the film by saying, well, we own nothing, but now we'll all be happy.

01:21:42.000 That's basically the conclusion.

01:21:43.000 And I'm like, dude, Angel Studios.

01:21:48.000 Drop the ball in this one big time.

01:21:50.000 You know, and a lot of people are saying they're canceling their memberships and all that stuff.

01:21:53.000 I think that's silly.

01:21:54.000 You're going to cancel your subscription to Angel Studios because they bought a bad film.

01:21:57.000 But I don't know how you navigate out of this one.

01:22:01.000 Like, bro, you got a pro communist film that's taking a dump all over the original book.

01:22:06.000 It is brutal.

01:22:08.000 Yeah, I don't understand.

01:22:09.000 Well, I mean, actually, I do understand it's subversion, which is something that the left loves to do.

01:22:14.000 They love to take something that is intended.

01:22:19.000 To criticize the left or something that the population of a country holds dear and then subvert it and in some way convince the people that no, actually, this thing that you loved, it's about us.

01:22:33.000 And it's something that we, it represents our values and not your own.

01:22:38.000 I'll say this.

01:22:38.000 You know what?

01:22:39.000 I'm not going to spoil the film because there are unique elements that are not in the book that people may want to see.

01:22:45.000 But on the uncensored portion of the show, I'll give the minorest of details.

01:22:50.000 There are things that I can tell you based off what you've seen in the trailer that I can add more context to.

01:22:54.000 But for the sake of not trying to just spoil the whole thing, I guess I can say this.

01:23:00.000 The Uncensored Cho will be at 10.

01:23:02.000 I'll give a little bit more detail, but I won't spoil any major plot points.

01:23:06.000 I will just say for now, the plot is so dramatically different, I could spoil it.

01:23:11.000 That's one of the issues, right?

01:23:13.000 If this was just an adaptation of the book, I'd be like, what can I say?

01:23:15.000 It's the book.

01:23:16.000 You've seen the book.

01:23:17.000 The book's 100 years old or whatever.

01:23:18.000 I don't know.

01:23:19.000 Like, I could tell you literally what the book's about, and the movie's the same.

01:23:22.000 Nope, they are 20%, maybe?

01:23:26.000 Freaking terrifying, dude, that they got Seth Rogen to headline.

01:23:29.000 That's not terrifying.

01:23:30.000 That's Seth Rogen, of course.

01:23:32.000 The movie's called Animal Farm, and it's not Animal Farm.

01:23:34.000 It is not Animal Farm.

01:23:35.000 It's not.

01:23:36.000 Dude, it is so wild.

01:23:38.000 I didn't know that Seth Rogen was involved in it.

01:23:40.000 He plays the main villain, he plays Napoleon.

01:23:43.000 It's not a surprise once you.

01:23:44.000 Bro, you cannot bring your kids to see this movie.

01:23:46.000 When you see the trailer, it looks like it's for kids.

01:23:48.000 It's a cartoon.

01:23:49.000 Oh, it's not.

01:23:51.000 The trailer looks like pigs falling over each other. 0.83

01:23:53.000 I think this is fair to say there's murder in it. 0.98

01:23:55.000 That's crazy.

01:23:56.000 It looks like a kid's name from the private.

01:23:58.000 I will say this.

01:23:59.000 I will say this.

01:24:01.000 Obviously, in Animal Farm, Boxer the horse, what happens?

01:24:05.000 He gets injured and then Napoleon sends him to a glue factory.

01:24:08.000 Yeah.

01:24:09.000 That's like near the end.

01:24:09.000 That's in the book.

01:24:11.000 So, obviously, something to that effect is in the movie.

01:24:16.000 It's just done in a very different way.

01:24:19.000 Oh, boy.

01:24:19.000 Very different way.

01:24:20.000 And yeah, I will add there the Elon Musk's mom arc.

01:24:27.000 It's just so wild.

01:24:28.000 They have her kind of like Cruella Deville. 1.00

01:24:31.000 She kind of like walks like that, like she's going to throw shade.

01:24:33.000 You know, there's a lot of murder in the film that I think is not appropriate for families.

01:24:39.000 What's it rated?

01:24:41.000 You know, I think it's PG 13.

01:24:43.000 Read communist.

01:24:44.000 I would put it like this.

01:24:47.000 You know, I mean, to be fair, my daughter is only a year old, so she's not watching any movies anytime soon.

01:24:53.000 But I wouldn't bring a seven year old to see it.

01:24:55.000 I wouldn't bring an eight year old.

01:24:57.000 My brain wasn't ready for Animal Farm until I was 20.

01:24:57.000 Nah.

01:25:00.000 To be fair, considering it's pro communist, I would never bring my family to see it.

01:25:03.000 But I will say this just of the violence elements, Peachy 13.

01:25:07.000 Well?

01:25:09.000 Yeah.

01:25:10.000 Like in cartoon violence, I think is fine for kids under 13.

01:25:15.000 You know, like Bugs Bunny bopping a guy in the head and he gets a, you know, whoop, a bup comes up.

01:25:19.000 I don't really care all that much about Looney Tunes kind of violence.

01:25:22.000 But this is more like it's murder, you know?

01:25:28.000 Horrible.

01:25:29.000 Yeah.

01:25:30.000 I just, I'm like, I don't think that's appropriate for children.

01:25:33.000 There's such a big push on the left of pushing towards this like democratic socialism, which is no different to communism.

01:25:40.000 And so there are these, there's money and power that is pushing this communist idea because they know that that's what it eventually leads to. 0.99

01:25:48.000 They just hope that the child looks too stupid. 0.99

01:25:50.000 Orwell, was Orwell a democratic socialist? 1.00

01:25:51.000 He started out as a socialist and then he saw what happened in.

01:25:57.000 Road to Wigan Pier, one of the books he followed the coal miners around.

01:26:01.000 He's like, they just hate the poor.

01:26:02.000 Yeah, but he said.

01:26:04.000 Like, the Animal Farm was actually a critique of the Soviet Union.

01:26:10.000 Yeah, it was Stalin and Trotsky, I believe, were specifically the allegories of the pigs.

01:26:15.000 And what I will say is a major character from the book is not even in the movie at all, which is.

01:26:22.000 And yeah, I think, I mean, I have to say this because if you're expecting to see Old Major in the film, it doesn't exist.

01:26:29.000 And that was supposed to be an allegory to Lenin, I believe, in Animal Farm.

01:26:33.000 Who is Old Major?

01:26:34.000 Is he a donkey?

01:26:36.000 God, I haven't read that book in so long.

01:26:38.000 Old Major, do you?

01:26:38.000 It's been a minute.

01:26:39.000 I think Stalin poisoned Lenin and took power.

01:26:42.000 I can't prove it, but it just seems like Lenin got real sick real fast, and then Stalin was standing over his shoulder, like waiting. 0.69

01:26:47.000 He's the prize winning boar.

01:26:49.000 Yeah, the oldest and wisest.

01:26:50.000 Old Major.

01:26:51.000 He's meant to represent Lenin or Mark.

01:26:53.000 You've got to read that book.

01:26:55.000 It's 100 pages.

01:26:56.000 You can read it in an evening.

01:26:58.000 I think that's fair to say.

01:26:59.000 I don't consider that a spoiler because there may be people who are like, oh, I can't wait to see this part of the story.

01:27:03.000 It doesn't exist.

01:27:06.000 Inconvenient.

01:27:07.000 Inconvenient truth.

01:27:08.000 I don't know if it's a spoiler to say if something's not in the film.

01:27:11.000 Do you guys consider that?

01:27:13.000 I don't think our audience is going to be watching it after this review.

01:27:17.000 Well, yeah, but it's not just that.

01:27:18.000 It's about at least giving a modicum of respect to Angel Studios and not saying I'm going to ruin this project.

01:27:23.000 I think saying.

01:27:24.000 Just because I didn't like it and I was a Offended by doesn't mean I should take that away from a company that is offering a product to people they can choose to see or not.

01:27:30.000 I don't know.

01:27:31.000 It's, it's, I was not, I was not asked to reveal story elements.

01:27:34.000 I was not given a screener so that I could expose what the story is about.

01:27:37.000 And I would, I don't want to do that to Angel Studios.

01:27:39.000 If people really want to see for themselves and learn, fine.

01:27:41.000 If they reached out to me and said, Tim, here's a screener, please give a review of the story, spoilers are fine, then I would do it.

01:27:47.000 But I think it's fair to say if a character is not in the film, that is an important point to bring up because people might be going to this film expecting it to be a one for one adaptation of Animal Farm.

01:27:57.000 It is a completely different movie.

01:27:59.000 It is a completely different movie.

01:28:00.000 And the reason why I'm saying I won't spoil it is because I could.

01:28:04.000 Like, it is so different from the book.

01:28:06.000 I would have to spoil a new script unrelated to Animal Farm.

01:28:10.000 I thought Jurassic Park, the movie, really downplayed Muldoon.

01:28:14.000 He was my favorite character in the book.

01:28:16.000 Wasn't the book written after the fact?

01:28:17.000 I was in, I was first, 92, Michael Crichton.

01:28:20.000 I read it in sixth grade.

01:28:21.000 It was phenomenal.

01:28:21.000 Nedri gets his eyes poisoned by the copies.

01:28:24.000 And then he's like, when he's trying to steal the eggs, he gets his stomach ripped open as he can't see it, but he can feel it.

01:28:30.000 It's pretty amazing how the original Jurassic Park story was awesome, but now they just made 15 versions of trash.

01:28:35.000 Yeah, the original was like capitalism, anarchy.

01:28:38.000 It was on an island.

01:28:39.000 It's an interesting sci fi, man.

01:28:40.000 It reads dinosaurs on an island.

01:28:42.000 Yeah, it's fun.

01:28:43.000 And now it's like we just keep doing it.

01:28:46.000 Oh, they need to make a Bioshock movie.

01:28:48.000 Bioshock 1 movie.

01:28:49.000 Bro, I want to watch the Animal Farm.

01:28:51.000 You think they'll send me a screener before they come on the show?

01:28:54.000 I'd like to know what I'm talking about.

01:28:56.000 I don't know what the restrictions are for us.

01:28:59.000 Maybe they might don't mind.

01:29:00.000 The Timcast company was provided a screener for the purposes of doing an ad read.

01:29:03.000 And I respect, I will say this like, I did a review of the film from the trailer.

01:29:08.000 They said, Hey, Tim, please watch the movie and you'll see that you were incorrect.

01:29:13.000 And then we'll have you do ads for it.

01:29:15.000 I'm not upset that they were offering money and saying, We think you'll change your mind.

01:29:20.000 But I absolutely did not change my mind.

01:29:22.000 And I was, it was like, again, I turned it off after five minutes and I was like, I'm not watching this.

01:29:27.000 This is nuts.

01:29:28.000 And then I was like, No, no, no, no.

01:29:30.000 Like, I have to watch it.

01:29:31.000 I have to.

01:29:31.000 And then I watched it and I was just rolling my eyes and scoffing the whole time.

01:29:36.000 And my wife keeps looking. 0.75

01:29:37.000 It makes me watch on my phone.

01:29:38.000 She's like, what?

01:29:39.000 And I'm like, oh my God.

01:29:39.000 What?

01:29:41.000 And then it was funny because I was talking to my wife about it and I was like, the villain is Elon Musk's mom.

01:29:45.000 And she's like, I get it.

01:29:46.000 And I'm like, no, it's Elon Musk's mom.

01:29:49.000 And she's like, what does that mean?

01:29:50.000 And I'm like, I am not making a joke.

01:29:54.000 It is not an allegory or a metaphor.

01:29:57.000 I am quite literally telling you the villain is Elon Musk's mom.

01:30:01.000 And she's like, well, they can't do that. 1.00

01:30:04.000 They'd get sued.

01:30:05.000 So I pulled a picture of Elon Musk's mom.

01:30:07.000 I said, this is Elon Musk's mom.

01:30:08.000 Then I pulled up the image from the trailer and I said, this is the villain.

01:30:11.000 And she went, How did they get away with that?

01:30:14.000 Because we have to go to our lawyers for all of this stuff on all the merch we make.

01:30:18.000 And I'm like, I don't know.

01:30:19.000 She's driving a cyber truck. 1.00

01:30:21.000 By the way, Andy Serkis, who did the story, he's Gollum, yeah?

01:30:28.000 Okay, so this is Gollum's movie?

01:30:30.000 I mean, I think Andy Serkis is a fantastic actor.

01:30:32.000 He's exquisite as an actor.

01:30:32.000 Awesome.

01:30:34.000 Yeah, who did he play in Marvel?

01:30:37.000 The South African guy? 0.67

01:30:38.000 I know, but they were just going to have him in the voice, and he was so good.

01:30:40.000 They cast him in the entire movie, Lord of the Rings, because he was so good physically.

01:30:44.000 But that doesn't mean that he knows everything about communism and has.

01:30:47.000 But he was only supposed to be gone one time?

01:30:49.000 They just had him do voices and they were going to animate something.

01:30:52.000 They had him do the voice.

01:30:53.000 But he was so in it while he was doing the voice.

01:30:55.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:30:55.000 Claw.

01:30:56.000 He was Claw in the Marvel movies, and that was an amazing character.

01:31:01.000 Arms smuggler, his arm chopped off by Ultron.

01:31:03.000 I thought he did a fantastic job.

01:31:04.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:31:06.000 I'm just.

01:31:06.000 Can I please.

01:31:07.000 No, I didn't know that.

01:31:07.000 Can I please?

01:31:07.000 Yeah.

01:31:10.000 He did the motion capture.

01:31:11.000 And it took like this.

01:31:12.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:31:13.000 Stupid fat Herbert's. 1.00

01:31:15.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:31:15.000 We've got to wonderfully defend his work like a PhD student. 1.00

01:31:20.000 Look, the Harmon Brothers were saying, like, they've issued a bunch of statements saying it's an anti communist film.

01:31:26.000 Let me show you this, actually.

01:31:27.000 Let me show you this.

01:31:28.000 This is from Newsweek from December.

01:31:29.000 Studio responds to criticism.

01:31:31.000 Here's what Newsweek wrote The adaptation, which took 14 years to complete, looks to examine capitalism and corporate greed as opposed to Soviet era authoritarianism.

01:31:42.000 A spokesperson for Angel Studios told Newsweek, Four facts Angel is the distributor of the film, not its producer, nor with creative control.

01:31:49.000 Angel Guild members viewed the film and voted heavily to support it.

01:31:53.000 While the title is the same as the classic book, updates were made to make it relevant to a broad, value centric, family friendly audience.

01:32:00.000 This is an anti communism film, and the Angel Guild will ensure that it stands by the principles of our members.

01:32:06.000 It is, I would not, it's not for kids, man.

01:32:08.000 Guys, like, a family friendly film is Space Jam, where the stakes are you will be trapped in a video game forever unless you win a game of basketball.

01:32:18.000 Woohoo! 1.00

01:32:18.000 And then they're like, oh no. 1.00

01:32:20.000 And then, you know, like, What is it?

01:32:22.000 Don Cheadle was a virus or something in the new one.

01:32:25.000 I don't remember.

01:32:26.000 Good for him, though.

01:32:27.000 But the stakes weren't massacre a bunch of corporate employees and, you know, like kill people or anything like that.

01:32:36.000 I keep the political propaganda away from little kids, personally.

01:32:39.000 Oh, no, I disagree.

01:32:41.000 Yeah, if it's anti communist, I'd.

01:32:43.000 Every.

01:32:45.000 I think at 13, I think is the appropriate age for a child to watch The Patriot with Mel Gibson, only because of the blood.

01:32:50.000 Lots of blood.

01:32:51.000 What about Terminator 2?

01:32:52.000 That's not really political, is it?

01:32:54.000 Well, like, how old would a kid be if you were born?

01:32:56.000 13.

01:32:56.000 Yeah.

01:32:57.000 I think at 13 years old, like, PG 13 makes sense, right?

01:33:01.000 Post puberty.

01:33:01.000 Well, they're in that point where they're starting to understand, like, war, conflict.

01:33:05.000 They're starting to be curious and ask questions.

01:33:08.000 Yeah, I think too young, it can fry their brains and freak them out.

01:33:11.000 You know?

01:33:12.000 Yeah.

01:33:12.000 But Mel Gibson's the Patriot.

01:33:15.000 You know, maybe 14 is the best age for it.

01:33:17.000 Maybe 13 is a little young because the Patriots got straight up gore.

01:33:23.000 Like when Mel Gibson just massacres all those Redcoats. 1.00

01:33:26.000 His son's like 13 and fights with a rifle.

01:33:28.000 So it'd be cool to show a 13 year old what it used to be like in the colonial times.

01:33:32.000 Dude, when he massacres that whole battalion trying to take his son prisoner, Mel Gibson, dude, that movie's the best movie ever.

01:33:40.000 He's got the top.

01:33:42.000 He has a tomahawk, I think.

01:33:44.000 Yeah.

01:33:44.000 And then he just wipes them all out.

01:33:47.000 And then they've got one injured guy.

01:33:49.000 And then the bad guy is like, How many men did this?

01:33:52.000 He's like, One, sir.

01:33:53.000 And he's like, One man.

01:33:54.000 Well, I'm like, Yes.

01:33:56.000 It's funny because it's such obvious BS.

01:34:00.000 This great American story of the one guy who just takes everybody out.

01:34:03.000 But it's also so American, that ego.

01:34:05.000 It's a superhero story.

01:34:07.000 It is.

01:34:08.000 It is American. 0.98

01:34:09.000 And it's like his son gets killed.

01:34:11.000 And so he seeks revenge and he rescues his kid.

01:34:13.000 There's a famous story about a painting from a revolution where it goes something like I'm probably bastardizing this story.

01:34:20.000 Historians probably know better, but it goes something like there was a painting made of a bunch of redcoats in formation firing on a bunch of rebel farmers during the Revolutionary War who were dropping their guns and fleeing.

01:34:33.000 And so this painting was of an actual battle that occurred.

01:34:38.000 Well, someone asked to recommission the painting and said, I would like one for myself of this battle.

01:34:43.000 But.

01:34:44.000 Tone it down a little bit.

01:34:45.000 And so the next version shows some of the militiamen, the Minutemen, fighting back.

01:34:51.000 And then years later, someone says, I would like my own version of this.

01:34:55.000 Well, the new one shows the Minutemen breaking ranks but violently fighting back as the Redcoats advance. 0.98

01:35:02.000 Someone asked for another commission.

01:35:03.000 Now it shows the redcoats are a little frazzled and some are being shot.

01:35:08.000 Long story short, after several iterations, it completely flipped to a small handful of valiant minute men firing on frantic and fleeing redcoats, despite it never happening.

01:35:19.000 Because every time it was made, the person who got a commission of this great battle wanted it showing the heroism of the Americans.

01:35:27.000 So we've made this movie where we're like, Mel Gibson is a dad who doesn't want to go to war and votes against it.

01:35:32.000 This is what I love, right?

01:35:33.000 We always talk about the guy at the bar. 0.94

01:35:35.000 And there's some dude acting a fool, and he says, Listen, man, I don't want to be involved. 1.00

01:35:38.000 And the guy goes, What are you, pussy? 1.00

01:35:40.000 And then, like, pours a beer on him, and then gets his ass kicked by the guy who wasn't asking for trouble. 1.00

01:35:45.000 And we love that narrative, right? 0.99

01:35:46.000 It's a classic Jackie Chan, bro.

01:35:47.000 Yeah.

01:35:48.000 Jackie Chan, bro.

01:35:48.000 Right.

01:35:49.000 But, man, just leave me alone.

01:35:52.000 I don't want to fight.

01:35:53.000 But then when they pick a fight, always save the base.

01:35:55.000 That's a meal.

01:35:56.000 So Mel Gibson is like, I don't want to go to war with England.

01:35:59.000 So he's at home.

01:36:00.000 The British troops show up.

01:36:01.000 He's tending aid. 0.99

01:36:02.000 And then the guy's like, kill the prisoners. 0.87

01:36:03.000 And he's like, you can't. 0.99

01:36:04.000 And he's like, hmm, take his son.

01:36:06.000 And he's like, no.

01:36:07.000 And then his other son tries to save his brother.

01:36:09.000 And the guy shoots him, killing him.

01:36:10.000 And then Mel Gibson is like, I didn't want this war.

01:36:13.000 And then he grabs his guns and he's like, let's go.

01:36:15.000 It's like the perfect American story, you know? 0.91

01:36:18.000 The strong man didn't want to have to fight, but then he just kills everyone.

01:36:22.000 I'd love to be a hero.

01:36:23.000 Best movie ever.

01:36:24.000 Greatest movie ever.

01:36:25.000 I'm ready to watch it again, bro.

01:36:26.000 Dude.

01:36:27.000 I'm happy.

01:36:27.000 They went through a war now.

01:36:28.000 Every 4th of July, they put it on repeat on TV.

01:36:30.000 And I just watch it.

01:36:31.000 Eight times.

01:36:32.000 Nonstop, all just slamming wings.

01:36:36.000 It might be Gibson's best role so far.

01:36:38.000 I think so.

01:36:39.000 It's the best movie he's ever done.

01:36:40.000 That's the type of propaganda, though, that I'm like way behind because we need some patriotism back in our country.

01:36:46.000 You're not saying that.

01:36:47.000 Oh, okay, good, good.

01:36:48.000 You scared me for a second.

01:36:50.000 The new Top Gun?

01:36:50.000 Braveheart.

01:36:51.000 Yeah.

01:36:51.000 I haven't seen that.

01:36:52.000 I haven't seen that.

01:36:54.000 Top Gun Maverick was good.

01:36:55.000 Braveheart was good, but he loses.

01:36:59.000 The true story is that he gets betrayed.

01:37:01.000 And it's like, okay, he stood up for himself.

01:37:03.000 That's fine.

01:37:04.000 But The Patriot is fiction based off of a conglomerate.

01:37:08.000 They took a bunch of different stories from the revolution and created one superhero.

01:37:11.000 And then they created one ultimate evil British guy. 0.99

01:37:14.000 And apparently, after the film, the UK issued a statement saying, this is absurd.

01:37:19.000 We never killed children and civilians.

01:37:20.000 Oh, man.

01:37:22.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:37:24.000 In the film, they literally burned down a church with all the villagers trapped inside.

01:37:27.000 I'm like, pretty sure.

01:37:29.000 But it's such a good movie when Cornwallis is like, you're unbefitting of a gentleman.

01:37:33.000 It's just like, You know, I love the scene where Mel Gibson meets with Cornwallis and he's like, First thing I'd like to request, what did he say?

01:37:42.000 A point of privilege or something?

01:37:43.000 He's like, I'd like to request that you stop firing on my officers.

01:37:47.000 And he says, So long as it is the policy of your officers to fire on women and children, I will instruct my men to shoot at officers on first sight.

01:37:54.000 And he's like, Oh, and he's all pissed off at the Lord, what's his face? 0.69

01:37:57.000 Who keeps.

01:37:58.000 No, no, Cornwallis is made.

01:37:58.000 Cornwallis?

01:37:59.000 Oh, yeah, it's like his lapdog that's doing the fighting for him on the front line. 0.69

01:38:03.000 But then, when Benjamin. 0.93

01:38:07.000 Embarrasses him.

01:38:07.000 He's like, I want you to put a stop to this man.

01:38:09.000 And he's like, I thought you said you didn't want me to.

01:38:13.000 And then he's like, if you do this, there's no going back to Britain for you.

01:38:17.000 You will not be a gentleman.

01:38:18.000 And he's like, we'll do it. 0.98

01:38:19.000 And then he basically starts massacring people, burns the church down. 0.80

01:38:22.000 It's William Tavington.

01:38:24.000 Tavington.

01:38:25.000 Colonel Jason Isaacs, man.

01:38:27.000 He's great.

01:38:28.000 Such a good movie.

01:38:30.000 I think it should be required viewing in all American schools.

01:38:32.000 You said you don't want your kids to watch propaganda.

01:38:33.000 No.

01:38:34.000 It should be required, freshman high school, that the first thing they do is watch The Patriot.

01:38:40.000 Yep.

01:38:40.000 100%.

01:38:41.000 High school.

01:38:41.000 They should, they should, you know, but here's what they do.

01:38:43.000 That's right.

01:38:44.000 They watch The Patriot and then they show them 9 11.

01:38:48.000 And they have to watch Band of Brothers.

01:38:50.000 Every kid in the world.

01:38:51.000 Band of Brothers is the most watched for 14 year olds.

01:38:54.000 Every freshman watching Band of Brothers.

01:38:55.000 Gotta watch Band of Brothers.

01:38:56.000 They gotta make a movie out of this rescue that Trump did.

01:38:59.000 Yeah, 100%.

01:38:59.000 Yeah, behind enemy lines, too.

01:39:01.000 Why are people not like.

01:39:02.000 I need the Venezuelan movie first.

01:39:04.000 I need that Maduro.

01:39:05.000 Maduro getting caught and giving them the Nike tech fit with the word.

01:39:09.000 Just like a helicopter flies over and dudes drop down with weird looking guns.

01:39:12.000 Like a.

01:39:14.000 And all the guys are like, ah!

01:39:15.000 20 minute movie.

01:39:16.000 Yeah.

01:39:17.000 There's like an American general who's like, fire the discombobulator.

01:39:22.000 Turn it up.

01:39:22.000 They're not dancing hard enough.

01:39:24.000 They're like, ah!

01:39:25.000 No, you made them all drop to their knees and go, ah!

01:39:27.000 Oh, they're not really dancing, but that's the thing.

01:39:29.000 The discombobulator.

01:39:29.000 Poop their pants.

01:39:31.000 Iconic.

01:39:32.000 What are you going to say about that?

01:39:33.000 Man, we need.

01:39:34.000 See, this is the thing.

01:39:35.000 Like, we need movies like this.

01:39:36.000 I've heard people complain that, I mean, someone in the chat just said this that Angel Studios is a Trojan horse because a lot of, again, this is a comment.

01:39:43.000 They said a lot of their films are actually anti conservative values.

01:39:47.000 They definitely aim at.

01:39:48.000 Well, they aim at doing what is right.

01:39:50.000 I mean, I think they have a good model where the crowd votes and pushes things through.

01:39:53.000 So, you know, not everything falls on the dudes at the top.

01:39:56.000 They don't probably watch every movie, which maybe they should, but.

01:39:59.000 I love how, like, Newsweek in a fact article just says the annotation is a critique of capitalism.

01:40:05.000 Yeah.

01:40:06.000 I got to say, we did bring up Band of Brothers.

01:40:08.000 Have you seen Band of Brothers?

01:40:09.000 Not.

01:40:09.000 How long has it been?

01:40:10.000 20 years.

01:40:10.000 Oh, so you've seen it.

01:40:11.000 Did you see it all?

01:40:12.000 I've seen most of these movies, but I could not remember them.

01:40:14.000 It's a male power fantasy.

01:40:15.000 Like, it's about the 101st Airborne diving into Germany.

01:40:18.000 What year was it?

01:40:19.000 Yeah, you were looking at that.

01:40:20.000 What year did it come out?

01:40:21.000 2003?

01:40:22.000 Tom Hanks directed it.

01:40:22.000 Yeah.

01:40:25.000 And they also did the one where they Spielberg, or maybe it was Spielberg.

01:40:27.000 To be honest, Hanks and Spielberg.

01:40:29.000 Yeah, they worked on it together.

01:40:30.000 I can't remember half the movies from 30 years ago.

01:40:32.000 You know what I mean?

01:40:33.000 Freaking mind.

01:40:33.000 If you get into military conflict movies like that, this is the one.

01:40:36.000 It's probably the best.

01:40:38.000 What's that?

01:40:38.000 Platoon?

01:40:39.000 Platoon Short.

01:40:41.000 It aired on September 9th, 2001.

01:40:44.000 Wow.

01:40:45.000 Oh.

01:40:46.000 I have to watch it.

01:40:47.000 Probably not an accident.

01:40:49.000 I mean, I don't imagine.

01:40:50.000 I don't see how it's really real.

01:40:52.000 And they had the two series where they go to Japan.

01:40:54.000 Yeah, they had the one.

01:40:55.000 Yeah, the one they go into Japan too.

01:40:58.000 That one's sick. 0.93

01:40:58.000 What did they call that? 0.93

01:40:59.000 I vaguely remember it, man, but it's been so long.

01:41:02.000 I know.

01:41:03.000 It's still on HBO.

01:41:04.000 Launched so many guys' careers.

01:41:04.000 Great cast.

01:41:06.000 I went through like a Banner Brothers thing and then Sopranos again.

01:41:10.000 You guys have all seen 1917, right?

01:41:11.000 That's what the movie was.

01:41:12.000 Oh, yeah.

01:41:13.000 That movie's amazing, bro.

01:41:14.000 Wow.

01:41:15.000 I love that movie.

01:41:16.000 It's a World War I movie all shot in one take.

01:41:19.000 It's not really one take, but it is almost one take.

01:41:22.000 Wow.

01:41:23.000 It's so good.

01:41:24.000 Have you seen it?

01:41:24.000 You saw it, right, Phil?

01:41:25.000 No, I have.

01:41:26.000 You got to see it.

01:41:27.000 Okay.

01:41:28.000 It's on the Western Front or something.

01:41:29.000 I forgot that one.

01:41:30.000 Uh, no, that's the newer one, right?

01:41:32.000 It's 1917's great.

01:41:32.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:41:33.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:41:34.000 It's 1917 about the Pacific.

01:41:37.000 No, no, no, they're in Europe.

01:41:38.000 I think they're in France or something.

01:41:40.000 Yeah, obviously.

01:41:41.000 The whole war took place in Europe.

01:41:43.000 Yeah, yeah, but France specifically.

01:41:45.000 And uh, it's like a single shot following him through in real.

01:41:49.000 There's only one time jump, but because they were like, how do we make it night if it's all like shot for shot?

01:41:54.000 Like, we need a night scene, I guess.

01:41:56.000 So, did you see the movie of those that.

01:41:59.000 Will never grow old, I think is what it was called.

01:42:01.000 It was like actual footage of World War I dudes climbing out of the trenches, and it was colorized.

01:42:05.000 It was done by like Michael, what's his name?

01:42:08.000 Mike Fahrenheit, 9 11 guy.

01:42:12.000 No.

01:42:12.000 Never grow old?

01:42:13.000 No.

01:42:13.000 Those shall never grow old.

01:42:15.000 They shall not grow old.

01:42:16.000 It's real footage from World War I. Peter Jackson.

01:42:19.000 The way people drop.

01:42:20.000 Yeah, Peter Jackson.

01:42:20.000 From World War I. From Lord of the Rings directed it, and it's just like.

01:42:24.000 You know what's really funny?

01:42:26.000 Let's do one more story.

01:42:27.000 Let's do one more story.

01:42:28.000 I know we're cutting into Super Chats. 1.00

01:42:29.000 We got to do this one.

01:42:30.000 Check out this video right here.

01:42:32.000 Ben Werman, he says, how long until they make it illegal to post any videos before 1990?

01:42:37.000 And we have this video right here.

01:42:41.000 And it's just racist.

01:42:47.000 It's just videos of like, what year is this?

01:42:49.000 The 60s or something?

01:42:51.000 Before 1964.

01:42:54.000 This makes me want to hang an American flag.

01:42:57.000 So these videos keep going viral showing America in like the 50s and 60s.

01:43:03.000 I mean, like, everybody's white. 0.60

01:43:06.000 But it's showing all of the best stuff.

01:43:08.000 And I do think it's silly because bad stuff happened all the time, you know, like.

01:43:13.000 At this point, but these people are obviously romanticizing the nicer areas and things like that.

01:43:19.000 But uh, I forgot, I've we pulled this up, and I guess I wanted to just talk about this because you were uh, Ian was just before the segment talking about They Shall Never Grow Old, I think it's called, right?

01:43:30.000 Yeah, World War One documentary.

01:43:32.000 And um, the reason why I thought it'd be good to bring up this video that we had pulled up and like talk about all these nostalgia videos uh, the what is it called, the Christmas Truce World War One?

01:43:43.000 Yeah, World War One.

01:43:44.000 On Christmas, it was a Christmas Eve.

01:43:45.000 They all said, We're going to stop fighting.

01:43:47.000 And then they all hung out together.

01:43:48.000 They played football, I think.

01:43:49.000 Yeah, they played football and they had tea and they laughed together.

01:43:52.000 And then they were like, Well, I guess we got to go back to killing each other again.

01:43:54.000 They didn't want to.

01:43:55.000 They went back to their trenches, like, I guess this means the war is done.

01:43:58.000 But then the lieutenants came in and they're like, No, orders came down.

01:44:00.000 You're going over the top tomorrow.

01:44:01.000 And they're like, We don't want to. 1.00

01:44:02.000 And then we're going to shoot you in the back. 1.00

01:44:04.000 You're going over the top tomorrow. 1.00

01:44:05.000 You're like, All right, I guess we go back to fighting.

01:44:07.000 But at least that's how war used to be.

01:44:11.000 You know, like European war is like, It's Christmas.

01:44:13.000 I guess we have to stop fighting and F crumpets. 0.99

01:44:15.000 And they're like, All right.

01:44:17.000 You know, Like, war happened and they said, okay, we got to go fighting again.

01:44:19.000 But the truce is, it's amazing.

01:44:21.000 It's also, they were all the same religion.

01:44:22.000 I was going to say, it was a shared commonality of values.

01:44:25.000 So even when they fight, they were like, but nowadays, you can't even get a jury to be honest.

01:44:32.000 It's all race based. 0.98

01:44:32.000 Elections are all race based. 0.98

01:44:34.000 Everything's just based on race.

01:44:35.000 I mean, that's legitimately a big part of the reason why videos like that are so popular now racial homogeneity.

01:44:42.000 Homogenization.

01:44:44.000 Homogeneity. 0.62

01:44:45.000 Homogeneity. 0.62

01:44:46.000 Yeah.

01:44:47.000 And words.

01:44:48.000 Because the argument that people like aren't, like don't have an affinity for their own race, like that's only true for white people.

01:44:57.000 There's no data behind it.

01:44:58.000 None.

01:44:59.000 Yeah.

01:44:59.000 I mean, white people, but it's only a certain segment of white people, too.

01:45:03.000 But I mean, even like you could hear Muhammad Ali making these arguments in the 60s, where he's like, I don't have a problem with white people, but I'd rather be around people like me.

01:45:11.000 Well, so now what we see is the data shows that like jury trials, for instance, black juries will acquit.

01:45:18.000 Black convicts have extremely high rates.

01:45:20.000 White juries tend to be race ambivalent.

01:45:23.000 There's very little preference on race when it comes to juries.

01:45:26.000 But every other race, I'm saying a lot, just black people, but every race has a pro, like a racial preference for.

01:45:32.000 Right there.

01:45:33.000 Yeah.

01:45:34.000 So if there's a Latino juror and the guy on the stand is Latino, they're going to say not guilty. 0.99

01:45:40.000 They just don't care.

01:45:42.000 White people will say guilty or not guilty based on the merits. 0.89

01:45:44.000 Every other race will choose their race. 0.99

01:45:46.000 Even Asians.

01:45:47.000 I would argue that's. 0.90

01:45:49.000 People hate, they've been brainwashed to be unkind.

01:45:52.000 It's like they have no survival instincts.

01:45:53.000 It's the most fascinating thing I've ever seen.

01:45:55.000 Yeah, I wonder are they like shocked into behaving at like base values, at base level animal instinct?

01:46:02.000 What's your question?

01:46:04.000 The people that are voting based or like saying, yo, you're my race, therefore innocent, are they like shocked into behaving like just kind of animalistic?

01:46:12.000 No, that's just, that's very human nature tribalism.

01:46:15.000 Very, very, what?

01:46:16.000 Some people override it and then some people fall back into it.

01:46:19.000 The only people that really override it are white liberals.

01:46:24.000 That's it. 0.98

01:46:25.000 Like every other race. 1.00

01:46:26.000 I just left Minneapolis, bro, and I covered the rights there for like two weeks.

01:46:30.000 So I was surrounded by white liberals all over Minneapolis.

01:46:33.000 And one thing that I like to do as a reporter is I just like to act like an MPC and just talk to people because I want to know exactly how they feel and what's motivating them.

01:46:40.000 And when I was talking to the white liberals in Minneapolis, like they do view when ICE does an arrest or an apprehension, like they view that as, oh, a Nazi official is kidnapping.

01:46:56.000 My Somali brother.

01:46:57.000 This is like a white person telling me that.

01:46:59.000 And they do feel like they have this moral standing to have to get out there and interfere in operations or anything like that because they feel like they're standing up for their Somali brother or sister.

01:47:10.000 Then when you go interview a Somalian, they're not even protesting. 0.55

01:47:15.000 There's a huge disconnect there.

01:47:16.000 It's a savior complex, which in and of itself is an acknowledgement that we have created something worth preserving. 0.84

01:47:24.000 So, in and of itself, it's hypocritical, which they don't understand.

01:47:27.000 Yeah.

01:47:28.000 Well, I don't know if they don't understand.

01:47:29.000 I think they won't acknowledge it.

01:47:31.000 I think they don't understand it.

01:47:33.000 You think that they're blind to it?

01:47:34.000 I do.

01:47:35.000 I do.

01:47:36.000 Yeah, I would call it toxic compassion.

01:47:37.000 It's like misplaced compassion, suicidal empathy.

01:47:40.000 Yeah.

01:47:42.000 It does indicate that there's a similar desire, though, between whatever sides you think there are.

01:47:47.000 People are both trying to preserve something.

01:47:51.000 Huh?

01:47:52.000 Like you might say there's a left and a right, but both sides are trying to preserve what they think is correct.

01:47:56.000 That's not correct.

01:47:56.000 The American way.

01:47:58.000 The left typically does.

01:48:00.000 Refers to progressivism, meaning they want to change the thing.

01:48:04.000 And conservatism wants to conserve the thing.

01:48:07.000 Yeah, but I think that.

01:48:08.000 It's not preserving anything.

01:48:09.000 One side is trying to destroy it, one side is trying to protect it.

01:48:11.000 In this instance, the leftist movement is like, hey, get your Nazi Gestapo out of my town.

01:48:16.000 These are my brethren from a distance.

01:48:18.000 We don't want totalitarianism.

01:48:20.000 Like, we want to preserve the American way where you can start your own and.

01:48:23.000 You're incorrect.

01:48:24.000 They're saying open the borders and abolish the state and abolish profit.

01:48:28.000 They're saying change it.

01:48:29.000 There are people that are, yeah.

01:48:30.000 But that's what the left means.

01:48:32.000 It means, literally.

01:48:34.000 The orchestrators probably aren't even American.

01:48:36.000 They're NGOs and stuff.

01:48:38.000 Left and right was a reference to the right that wanted to maintain the system in France or have a comparable system.

01:48:38.000 No, no, no.

01:48:43.000 The left wanted more leftist economic policies.

01:48:46.000 Leftists are defined by saying, burn the thing down, not preserve it.

01:48:50.000 They're not preserving anything.

01:48:52.000 They're saying, newcomers, bring in the newcomers, change everything. 0.99

01:48:56.000 No, it was the difference between don't deport my neighbor and bring in new people.

01:49:01.000 Right, because deporting illegal immigrants is stopping their change from happening.

01:49:08.000 Okay, you're not wrong.

01:49:09.000 I'm just saying that I don't think that's the mindset of these people.

01:49:12.000 Literally, it is.

01:49:13.000 Are you trying to say, Ian, like the people in Minneapolis that they view as, like, this is our way of life?

01:49:13.000 They say it.

01:49:19.000 This is American life for us, and we're preserving that.

01:49:21.000 What Ian's basically saying is that there are two groups, and they crashed, and one guy says he got chocolate on my peanut butter, and the other guy says he got peanut butter on my chocolate, but in reality, they both just made a delicious treat.

01:49:21.000 Yes.

01:49:33.000 It does sound like that's.

01:49:34.000 Except what's actually happening is one guy's trying to destroy the other guy's chocolate.

01:49:39.000 High fructose corn syrup?

01:49:39.000 Really?

01:49:41.000 See, we all have a common enemy.

01:49:41.000 Yep.

01:49:42.000 It's those corporatists.

01:49:44.000 Have you seen the viral video of the guy with the Hershey's bar and he's flopping it around?

01:49:48.000 He's like, this is not chocolate.

01:49:49.000 Yes, I've seen that.

01:49:50.000 It's just flopping.

01:49:51.000 You warmed it up and it's like, oh, we're being poisoned.

01:49:51.000 Yeah.

01:49:55.000 It's not chocolate.

01:49:56.000 It's gross.

01:49:57.000 And then you see the video of the ice cream?

01:49:59.000 The guy put an ice cream sandwich on a plate and then he came back like hours later and it's like, there's drips and it's like, but it's larger.

01:50:07.000 It's still there.

01:50:07.000 Yeah, because it's all gelatin and stuff.

01:50:09.000 It's like not ice cream.

01:50:12.000 My wife went to a great farmer's market and she bought sour cream.

01:50:15.000 And she comes back with all this great stuff.

01:50:17.000 And she's like, I got farmer's market sour cream.

01:50:19.000 And I grabbed it and looked at it.

01:50:21.000 And it's got 15 ingredients.

01:50:22.000 And I was like, I was like, wife, this is not sour cream.

01:50:27.000 She was like, oh no.

01:50:29.000 I had one job.

01:50:30.000 Like, you go to any grocery store.

01:50:32.000 Marketing got her.

01:50:33.000 Daisy sour cream.

01:50:34.000 Daisy, the ingredients aren't Daisy sour cream, cultured cream.

01:50:38.000 And they sell it at the market, at the grocery store.

01:50:38.000 Yep.

01:50:40.000 You don't got to go to a special farmer's market for it. 0.97

01:50:42.000 But yeah, all the high fructose corn syrup garbage. 0.71

01:50:44.000 Like, we should play that video.

01:50:45.000 We'll do it in the after show where the guy makes modern bread.

01:50:48.000 It's one of the best videos I've ever seen.

01:50:49.000 He's like, I'm going to make American bread.

01:50:52.000 And then he's like, it's not what you think it is.

01:50:53.000 And then he's like, all the weird chemicals he's mixing in is just so nasty.

01:50:59.000 So nasty.

01:51:00.000 Like, why would you want to eat that?

01:51:01.000 We should look at it.

01:51:03.000 Bleaching flour.

01:51:03.000 Bleaching it, yes.

01:51:04.000 And then adding vitamins because flour is dead, basically.

01:51:07.000 Enrichment. 0.97

01:51:08.000 I don't eat that trash. 0.99

01:51:09.000 I can't eat it. 0.95

01:51:10.000 I get sick when I eat bread.

01:51:11.000 I stopped eating it years ago. 1.00

01:51:12.000 That's if you want to preserve the American way of life, don't eat that shit. 1.00

01:51:15.000 Like, You got to preserve your diet. 1.00

01:51:18.000 Don't eat all these 1992 and beyond azo dyes and aspartame and high fructose corn syrup and what?

01:51:25.000 PFAS, these PFAS for forever plastics.

01:51:29.000 I could go on, man.

01:51:30.000 I basically just eat like a pint of sour cream every day.

01:51:32.000 That's like basically my diet.

01:51:34.000 I'm doing a lot of moon cheese.

01:51:36.000 That's my fat.

01:51:37.000 Moon cheese?

01:51:38.000 Moon cheese is the ultimate.

01:51:39.000 Yeah.

01:51:39.000 I put sour cream on it.

01:51:40.000 Moon cheese with sour cream.

01:51:42.000 Yeah.

01:51:43.000 Today I had a, oh, dude, they have this thing called Tomb Garlic Dip.

01:51:47.000 Tube.

01:51:47.000 Tomb.

01:51:48.000 T O O M. Bro, give me money.

01:51:52.000 Like, I will promote that like nobody's business.

01:51:55.000 Ingredients are like garlic and olive oil.

01:51:57.000 And they literally just pulverized garlic, vinegar, and olive oil together.

01:52:01.000 And I will drink that stuff.

01:52:02.000 I will take spoonfuls of garlic paste and just eat it.

01:52:05.000 It's so good.

01:52:06.000 I used to boil or like saute, huh?

01:52:09.000 Oh, yeah, mix it with sour cream.

01:52:10.000 That'd make it a great dip.

01:52:11.000 So I would saute it a good dip.

01:52:13.000 Oh, no, no, no.

01:52:16.000 It's just pure health ingredients.

01:52:17.000 I mean, sour cream is like the best thing ever.

01:52:19.000 It's just pure fat.

01:52:20.000 You know, just like take a chip and just scoop like.

01:52:22.000 Four tablespoons of sour cream and just.

01:52:24.000 What do you do for protein Ian?

01:52:25.000 Butter.

01:52:26.000 Sour cream's good.

01:52:27.000 You just need a hunk of butter when you're depleted.

01:52:29.000 Stick of butter.

01:52:30.000 It's just like infusion into the system.

01:52:32.000 I'll do like cheese and lately I'm doing pork.

01:52:35.000 I'm trying to get away from pig.

01:52:36.000 Here's what you do. 0.94

01:52:37.000 Here's what you do.

01:52:38.000 Get a pan nice and hot.

01:52:39.000 All right.

01:52:40.000 Splash some olive oil on it.

01:52:41.000 Get the oil all nice and situated all around it.

01:52:43.000 Dump a whole bag of cheddar cheese on that pan and let it fry.

01:52:47.000 And it won't stick if you get it hot, right?

01:52:51.000 You can then easily flip the whole thing over and you make yourself like a fried cheese tortilla.

01:52:55.000 And then what you do is you put sour cream in it and you eat it.

01:52:59.000 At night.

01:53:00.000 Before you go to bed.

01:53:01.000 Well, I don't know about that.

01:53:02.000 If you're building muscle, you want your fats at night.

01:53:05.000 Yeah.

01:53:05.000 Let's talk about where you're getting this cheese, though.

01:53:07.000 Because if you're just doing the shredded cheese from the grocery store, that's no bueno.

01:53:11.000 Sometimes.

01:53:12.000 Sometimes it's like organic farm stuff.

01:53:14.000 No good.

01:53:14.000 Yeah, you gotta.

01:53:15.000 No, you can shred it a little bit.

01:53:17.000 They got shredded organic good stuff with limited ingredients at the grocery store.

01:53:21.000 It's not all bad.

01:53:21.000 That's why I'm saying, like, you know, my wife goes to the farmer's market and she finds sour cream.

01:53:25.000 It's in this nice, like, tub with a picture of a little cartoon cow on it.

01:53:27.000 She's like, it's gonna be great.

01:53:28.000 And then when we come back, I look and I'm like, eh.

01:53:31.000 You know what really bothers me?

01:53:32.000 You know what really bothers me?

01:53:34.000 When I am Supreme Chancellor, there's a few things I'm gonna ban.

01:53:37.000 Of course, of course, it's cilantro, but everyone knows it.

01:53:39.000 I agree.

01:53:40.000 The next is Gellin gum in heavy cream.

01:53:42.000 Okay.

01:53:43.000 Heavy cream, huh?

01:53:44.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:53:45.000 So I like heavy cream for my coffee, just a little boop, you know.

01:53:48.000 But all of the heavy cream brands put gum in it to thicken it up.

01:53:53.000 I don't want that.

01:53:54.000 I just want regular old cream.

01:53:55.000 And they put it in there because they think people like the texture of a thick cream better than runny cream, I guess.

01:54:03.000 At Mom's Organic Shop, they've got real heavy cream.

01:54:06.000 Ingredients, cream.

01:54:07.000 And they're in, like, they're from a farm nearby or something.

01:54:09.000 All I need.

01:54:10.000 But that's really far from us.

01:54:12.000 So, if we go to, like, a regular grocery store, like a food line, every single cream they have has Gellin gum in it.

01:54:18.000 And there are some hypotheses that the increase of gum in our products for thickening agents has resulted in this massive spike in colon cancer in millennials.

01:54:27.000 Not surprising.

01:54:28.000 That's not so, yeah.

01:54:29.000 That Gellin gum is a polysaccharide produced through fermentation of carbohydrates by bacteria.

01:54:35.000 Ferments a carbohydrate into, so it's basically bacterial waste.

01:54:39.000 That's probably what happens when you do those.

01:54:40.000 Cleanses and the weird stuff comes out.

01:54:42.000 I like Gell and Gum.

01:54:42.000 Do the cleanse.

01:54:43.000 No, no.

01:54:44.000 Zen Cleanse is the company.

01:54:44.000 Okay.

01:54:46.000 I'm actually in a.

01:54:46.000 All right, all right, all right.

01:54:48.000 We're going to grab some rumble rants and super chats before Ian grosses everybody out.

01:54:52.000 So smash.

01:54:53.000 Smash the like button, share the show.

01:54:53.000 I got pictures.

01:54:55.000 We're in the uncensored portion of the show in a few minutes.

01:54:57.000 We'll talk a little bit more about Animal Farm.

01:54:59.000 No spoilers, no spoilers.

01:55:00.000 But we'll also bring up that.

01:55:02.000 I'll try and find that video of the guy making real bread, of like American factory bread. 0.93

01:55:06.000 It's disgusting. 0.60

01:55:08.000 All right.

01:55:09.000 We got Pinochet says, and if the band you're in starts playing different Tunes.

01:55:13.000 I'll see you on the dark side of the moon.

01:55:15.000 We were just playing some Pink Floyd before the show went up.

01:55:17.000 Yeah, nobody caught the reference when I was said, you know, I said, oh, they came back from the moon.

01:55:24.000 Well, there's no moments making up a dull day there.

01:55:26.000 Oh.

01:55:27.000 And everyone's like, huh?

01:55:28.000 Sarah would have got that.

01:55:29.000 She loves Pink Floyd.

01:55:30.000 Oh, yeah.

01:55:31.000 They got some hugely awesome songs, but I never really got into them.

01:55:34.000 AK Storm says one of the Artemis crew named a crater after his late wife.

01:55:38.000 The dude literally loved her to the moon and back and flexed on all other men.

01:55:42.000 Best of luck topping that, boys, the things we do for teats.

01:55:45.000 I will say this.

01:55:46.000 I like that.

01:55:46.000 Of all the conspiracy theories people have claimed about how we never went to the moon, I just don't believe any of them until today because this new moon mission can't possibly be real.

01:55:57.000 It's a female astronaut. 1.00

01:55:58.000 Yep.

01:55:59.000 I made that joke before the show, right?

01:56:00.000 That's why no one cares.

01:56:04.000 All right.

01:56:06.000 NNY says, I was just going to pile on women for no reason. 1.00

01:56:12.000 NNY says, if you are driving or riding a motorcycle and can't skip, it takes four hours of YouTube ads to listen to a 20 minute segment.

01:56:20.000 That's YouTube, it's automatic, bro.

01:56:22.000 YouTube did this thing where ads are basically automatic and you can't even place them anymore because it rejects ad placements.

01:56:29.000 So I used to do an ad every six minutes and 30 seconds, and now YouTube automatically runs ads.

01:56:35.000 They've announced this.

01:56:36.000 YouTube isn't, that's wild because I believe you.

01:56:39.000 A 20 minute segment, I don't know about four hours of ads, but YouTube announced that they were doing auto ads now.

01:56:46.000 So that means, right, if you're on a motorcycle and you can't hit a button, 10 minute ads will play.

01:56:51.000 And it's just like, okay, and we can't do anything about that.

01:56:55.000 You can buy YouTube Red or whatever it is YouTube.

01:56:57.000 Yes, YouTube Premium.

01:56:59.000 Or I will stress, we're available on Rumble.

01:57:03.000 Rumble Premium.

01:57:05.000 Honestly, you spend $13 a month on the premium service of the website, and that's what they're making off ad revenue.

01:57:11.000 So it kind of bounces off.

01:57:12.000 Go to.

01:57:13.000 I think the website is Timcast Premium.

01:57:15.000 Is that what it is?

01:57:16.000 Timcast.

01:57:16.000 Oh, let me make sure I slide it right.

01:57:19.000 Timcastpremium.com.

01:57:21.000 Yep.

01:57:22.000 If you go to timcastpremium.com, you can sign up for Rumble Premium and you can use code Tim10.

01:57:29.000 Timcast Premium should automatically load that code, but use code Tim10 and you'll get ad free listening.

01:57:35.000 Everything we post, it'll be on Rumble.

01:57:36.000 So, you know, that's always available.

01:57:38.000 I mean, bro, you're commenting on Rumble.

01:57:40.000 You know, it's all available on Rumble and YouTube.

01:57:44.000 And indeed.

01:57:46.000 All right, let's see.

01:57:48.000 Mitho says, having worked for the government, I can attest it is far too incompetent to have kept this secret for almost 60 years.

01:57:54.000 Plus, you would have had to have gotten the Soviets to play along. 0.74

01:57:57.000 And that's the greatest argument, in my opinion.

01:57:59.000 The Soviets would absolutely be coming out being like, they lied and we can prove it. 0.97

01:58:04.000 In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the anti American commentary claiming the moon stuff is fake is literally foreign influence to destroy Americanism.

01:58:13.000 Yeah.

01:58:14.000 Because that's what it's rooted in, the whole argument.

01:58:16.000 People don't even understand that they're rooting against the success of America.

01:58:21.000 By science.

01:58:22.000 Yeah, right.

01:58:22.000 Mythos says Tim, ICBMs were available for a decade before the moon landings.

01:58:26.000 I will stress, ICBMs worked by going into the stratosphere and then dropping warheads down.

01:58:32.000 If they had a rocket that could go straight up and then come straight down, it would be unable to stop it.

01:58:38.000 That's what they did to kill Khamenei.

01:58:41.000 They launched a special kind of missile straight up, and then it goes right over the target and comes straight down so it can't be intercepted.

01:58:48.000 So, having a rocket that can go to the moon is a nightmare scenario.

01:58:52.000 You will have nukes pointed at you every night, and they know it.

01:58:57.000 All right, what do we got here?

01:58:58.000 Lava Bear says, I believe the UFO is actually a flying aircraft carrier, just like the one in the Marvel Cinematic Universe proved me wrong.

01:59:05.000 That proves it.

01:59:07.000 NNY says, Ian, discombobulate me harder, Daddy Crossland.

01:59:13.000 Right.

01:59:13.000 I just need you to vibrate.

01:59:15.000 Vibrate.

01:59:16.000 Oh, I like that.

01:59:18.000 That's a good slogan for that.

01:59:19.000 I mean, a syndrome weapon. 0.94

01:59:20.000 Move me with this sound.

01:59:22.000 Yeah.

01:59:23.000 I like it.

01:59:23.000 You like that one?

01:59:24.000 All right, dude.

01:59:25.000 Yeah, I'm excited.

01:59:26.000 Yeah.

01:59:27.000 I'm big in vibration.

01:59:28.000 I'll just.

01:59:29.000 Only the truth that says Tim is a coward when he actually has the opportunity to do what is right. 0.52

01:59:33.000 He bends the knee.

01:59:34.000 Spoil the movie.

01:59:35.000 Angel Studios deserves it.

01:59:37.000 First and foremost, if I was a coward, I'd take the money and get paid and have thousands of dollars to buy pizza with and just lie to you and tell you the movie was good. 0.89

01:59:47.000 Instead, I did probably the stupidest thing any host could do when they're in the business of running ads. 0.93

01:59:52.000 I attacked, I criticized heavily the advertiser for trying to advertise with us. 0.89

01:59:57.000 The end result could be companies saying, we don't want to advertise on Tim Pool's show because if it turns out he hates the product, He's going to attack us. 0.98

02:00:04.000 I don't think so because I thought, first thing I thought was, this is fucking honorable, man.

02:00:08.000 This is a really honorable move because you truly believe it and they want to come on and talk about it. 0.91

02:00:12.000 Like it's good for everybody.

02:00:13.000 And I respect them and we'll have that conversation.

02:00:15.000 I'm giving them the opportunity.

02:00:16.000 But let's be real.

02:00:16.000 If you sold like a skin cream, you might be like, what if Tim Poole thinks the chemicals in it are bad?

02:00:22.000 So instead of doing an ad, he attacks us.

02:00:23.000 Let's just stay away from him.

02:00:25.000 So it was dangerous as a company.

02:00:27.000 And I had people asking me, like, why don't you just call them instead of making a public statement?

02:00:31.000 And I said, because people are already running ads for this.

02:00:34.000 There are conservatives doing ads for a pro communism film right now that is spitting in the face of one of the few anti communist legacy pieces of culture that we have.

02:00:44.000 And I've talked to people and they're telling me, well, I don't know.

02:00:47.000 They bought ads and I just promoted the film.

02:00:49.000 And I'm like, yeah, well, you should have watched it.

02:00:53.000 As soon as they said, oh, they want you to do ads for Animal Farm, I was like, what?

02:00:56.000 No.

02:00:57.000 We saw the trailer for that.

02:00:58.000 And they're like, well, here's what they sent.

02:01:00.000 And I was like, okay.

02:01:00.000 You can watch the movie.

02:01:01.000 I was like, well, fair point.

02:01:01.000 And then I read it.

02:01:02.000 I didn't actually watch the movie, just the trailer.

02:01:04.000 So I'll watch it.

02:01:07.000 Oh, my God.

02:01:09.000 I'll just say that.

02:01:10.000 Wow.

02:01:11.000 All right.

02:01:11.000 Let's grab some more.

02:01:13.000 Ramo says Bob Lazar filmed the craft outside the base and they fired him for it.

02:01:18.000 They ruined his life after.

02:01:20.000 Maybe watch his documentary.

02:01:21.000 Yeah.

02:01:22.000 He drove some friends there and they watched.

02:01:24.000 It was on Netflix, right?

02:01:26.000 Was it?

02:01:27.000 Yeah.

02:01:27.000 I don't know.

02:01:28.000 I watched it on.

02:01:29.000 I don't know.

02:01:30.000 I saw him on Rogan.

02:01:31.000 I watched like a two hour documentary.

02:01:32.000 I watched a lot.

02:01:33.000 That was fascinating.

02:01:35.000 All right.

02:01:35.000 Let's see.

02:01:37.000 Matt says Holy yap.

02:01:38.000 Are we really getting distracted by aliens right now?

02:01:41.000 No one's read about the Great Deception, apparently.

02:01:43.000 Come on, Tim.

02:01:44.000 Getting distracted by aliens.

02:01:46.000 I suppose I can only tell you that everyone has already been distracted by aliens because it's a top trending story.

02:01:54.000 The people want what the people want.

02:01:55.000 I don't know what to tell you, man.

02:01:58.000 Fisher Mason says, My mom just passed.

02:02:00.000 Sorry to hear it, man.

02:02:01.000 Sorry to hear it, man.

02:02:02.000 I need to fly back home ASAP.

02:02:03.000 Give, send, go.

02:02:05.000 Hard trip home.

02:02:06.000 Anything helps.

02:02:06.000 Please pray.

02:02:07.000 Love you all.

02:02:09.000 Bender says if ChatGPT was a person, it would be Ian.

02:02:12.000 I second that.

02:02:13.000 Yeah.

02:02:13.000 GPT?

02:02:14.000 So smart.

02:02:15.000 The perfect.

02:02:16.000 Oh, much intelligence.

02:02:17.000 That is the perfect explanation for Ian.

02:02:19.000 I just heard that there are.

02:02:20.000 Like if ChatGPT was a person.

02:02:21.000 No one's pumped $180 billion into me yet.

02:02:24.000 Like this is.

02:02:26.000 I'll give you a really good example.

02:02:27.000 I'm going to give you a slight tickle of woke in there, too.

02:02:29.000 Of course, of course.

02:02:30.000 But like, I want to give you one example about why.

02:02:32.000 Yeah, like advocate.

02:02:33.000 I'm going to give you guys an example of why it's so perfect to compare Ian to ChatGPT.

02:02:36.000 It's like, imagine you went to ChatGPT and said, explain to me the Antichrist.

02:02:40.000 And ChatGPT goes, well, Antichrist could also mean being anti like Christ.

02:02:44.000 And so you're acting not like Christ was.

02:02:45.000 That's what it means to be anti Christ.

02:02:47.000 And you're like, what?

02:02:48.000 That's a literal statement.

02:02:49.000 Tell me about the literal anti Christ.

02:02:50.000 It could be the actual guy.

02:02:51.000 And I'm like, hmm, I shouldn't have that authority.

02:02:55.000 Indeed.

02:02:55.000 My friends, we're going to go to the uncensored portion of the show at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL.

02:03:00.000 You don't want to miss it.

02:03:01.000 Follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.

02:03:04.000 Avery, do you want to shout anything out?

02:03:06.000 No, but I will say I did have some of your coffee and it was really good.

02:03:09.000 So I'll give you credit there.

02:03:10.000 Oh, thank you.

02:03:11.000 Yeah.

02:03:12.000 Which one did you have, Ian's Graphene Dream or Appalachian Nights?

02:03:14.000 Appalachian Nights.

02:03:15.000 Yeah, that one's my favorite.

02:03:16.000 Very good.

02:03:17.000 Ian's Graphene Dream is also a second bestseller.

02:03:19.000 I had the Appalachian Nights this evening as well.

02:03:21.000 You want to shout anything out, brother?

02:03:21.000 Indeed.

02:03:23.000 Yeah, everyone check me out on Ventura Report on X, breaking a lot of news.

02:03:26.000 We've got a lot of good reporting heading back to the southern border.

02:03:30.000 And one of your viewers told me that we need to make Send Tortas to the Moon merch.

02:03:35.000 So it looks like that's a hit.

02:03:37.000 But yeah, once again, thanks for having me on, Tim.

02:03:40.000 Kind of fun to discuss all the news and the aliens and all the good stuff.

02:03:43.000 Like a torta, riding a torta, eating a torta, to the moon.

02:03:47.000 To the moon and back.

02:03:48.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

02:03:49.000 I want to get her cheese.

02:03:50.000 I don't want to.

02:03:51.000 Ian, you got to come to LA.

02:03:51.000 Visionary.

02:03:52.000 I got to set you up on a blind date with a torta.

02:03:54.000 You'll have a good time.

02:03:55.000 Let's record it.

02:03:55.000 Have a good conversation.

02:03:56.000 Yeah, we got to get you a thoksika. 1.00

02:03:58.000 Avery, people are going to follow you on X at Avery Day.

02:04:00.000 It's D A Y E, one Avery Day. 0.60

02:04:03.000 Thanks for coming, guys.

02:04:04.000 I'm at Ian Crossland.

02:04:05.000 You find me at Ian Crossland on the internet.

02:04:07.000 Go to graphene.movie.

02:04:08.000 Check out the new documentary I'm working on.

02:04:09.000 And a show I just did with Roseanne Barr went live about two days ago on her YouTube channel.

02:04:14.000 Nice.

02:04:14.000 So go there, check out me and Rosie hitting it off for a couple hours.

02:04:17.000 She's a deep woman, so it was nice to listen.

02:04:20.000 Real smart.

02:04:21.000 Girl sees the world like I see it with shapes and patterns.

02:04:23.000 So it was funny.

02:04:24.000 It was like, I didn't understand what you guys were saying some of the time.

02:04:24.000 My mom watched it.

02:04:27.000 I'm like, it was like we got our own language.

02:04:28.000 That's about right.

02:04:29.000 Yep.

02:04:30.000 So even my own family.

02:04:31.000 Right on.

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02:04:33.000 What's up, everyone?

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02:04:41.000 It's been great.

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02:06:58.000 All right.

02:06:59.000 We got the video on Instagram.

02:07:00.000 Then we'll talk about that animal farm stuff. 0.99

02:07:02.000 But let's just play this video, which is fucking nuts. 0.99

02:07:05.000 Here we can. 0.97

02:07:06.000 Today we're going to make it from scratch.

02:07:07.000 First, we're going to need a synthetic herbicide.

02:07:11.000 We're going to spray on the wheat to help it dry faster and make it easier to harvest.

02:07:14.000 Grind it up and add synthetic vitamins because the real ones are gone.

02:07:18.000 And of course, we're going to get the color right.

02:07:20.000 So we're going to suit up and blast it with chlorine gas to make it nice and white.

02:07:24.000 And when you see rich wheat flour on the label, this is basically what it is.

02:07:28.000 How to make it into bread, we're going to take this yoga man, mix it with toluene or petroleum derived. 0.98

02:07:33.000 Solvent to isolate the azodicarbonamide.

02:07:36.000 Now, that's gonna help make it nice and fluffy.

02:07:36.000 A doughboy.

02:07:39.000 Now, for our other ingredients high fructose corn syrup, oybean oil, monoendiglyceride, calcium peroxide, calcium propronate, and potassium bromate, even though it's banned in Europe, Canada, even China because it's linked to cancer, but we're only gonna add a little bit, so it should be.

02:07:53.000 Add a flesh of water, mix, shape, bake, and that's basically your made in the USA bread. 0.96

02:07:59.000 Send this to a friend who still thinks bread is just flour and water, and let me know would you eat this crap? 0.99

02:08:05.000 Yes, people eat it all the fucking time. 1.00

02:08:07.000 Yeah, like infinity. 1.00

02:08:10.000 Even your system, it doesn't go bad.

02:08:12.000 I don't want to spoil too much, but I will say a little bit more about the film.

02:08:17.000 I mentioned the motivations are banking and finance.

02:08:21.000 So, what I will say is that they don't revolt against the farmer, the farmer gets foreclosed on, and the animals have to make money to pay the bank off. 0.99

02:08:34.000 That is fucking ridiculous. 1.00

02:08:36.000 And. 0.99

02:08:37.000 And so, I don't want to say like a heavy spoiler because this is part of the trailer.

02:08:43.000 If you watch the trailer and analyze it, the first opening scene shows the Pilkington and the woman being like, I'm going to make some new friends.

02:08:52.000 And like, so I think it's important to bring up for people that want to see an adaptation of Animal Farm.

02:08:57.000 That's not the case.

02:08:59.000 They turned one of the characters in the book into a banker.

02:09:03.000 And the principal motivation of everything is that they need to make money.

02:09:08.000 When they start making money, the pigs start taking the profit for themselves, and the animals are like, Why are they taking the profit from our labor?

02:09:16.000 And then the pigs, this is an allegory, right?

02:09:20.000 I'm not going to tell you main spoilers again, but effectively, instead of a communist revolution, the pigs form a private equity firm, which they cut a deal with Elon Musk's mom on. 0.93

02:09:31.000 And the solution to the problem is a terror attack that the good guys foment to say that you will own nothing and you'll be happy.

02:09:40.000 So. 0.97

02:09:42.000 You know, holy shit, people want to ask more questions about it, but yeah, I mean, it's overtly anti-anti-anti-capitalists. 0.96

02:09:50.000 So, the first one's like shows flaws. 0.97

02:09:53.000 The book, I should say, shows flaws in capitalism without being anti-capitalism because it shows a farmer who's very wealthy, who has a farm, whether through inheritance or what.

02:10:00.000 He's a rich farmer.

02:10:01.000 Well, he owns a farm and he mishandles it.

02:10:04.000 He's not wealthy, he's a drunk, but he's a drunk, and so he's drunk all day and neglects the farm, mishandles this valuable piece of.

02:10:10.000 Let me, let me, let me just, I want to correct the record for having, having, you know, just.

02:10:14.000 Literally reviewed all of this as part of my homework for the ad.

02:10:17.000 Farmer Jones is an alcoholic.

02:10:19.000 He is not wealthy and he neglects the farm due to dependency.

02:10:22.000 He owns a farm.

02:10:23.000 Owning a farm doesn't make you wealthy, bro.

02:10:25.000 In that era, it's a pretty big deal.

02:10:26.000 No, it's not.

02:10:27.000 Back then, no, no, you are wrong.

02:10:30.000 Back then, everybody lived on a farm and everyone owned a cow and they were poor.

02:10:33.000 Not everyone owned a farm back then.

02:10:36.000 It's not just a normal peon, you know, that's the point.

02:10:39.000 Most people in the late 1800s and early 1900s owned cows and lived on On farmsteads.

02:10:46.000 I love how you'll get an idea in your head, and some of you are like, No, that's not an angel.

02:10:49.000 No, yeah, it totally is.

02:10:50.000 The idea that the guy that owns the farm is not a capitalist is, I don't know.

02:10:53.000 You said he was rich.

02:10:55.000 Farmers are not rich.

02:10:56.000 The idea is he owns the farm where they all work.

02:10:58.000 That doesn't make him rich.

02:10:59.000 Well, he's wealthier than everyone else.

02:11:01.000 He's the only one who's going to be the owner of the farm.

02:11:03.000 Because he's a human being, he's the owner of the farm.

02:11:05.000 The point is, he's a wealthy capitalist.

02:11:07.000 You're wrong.

02:11:07.000 No, it isn't.

02:11:08.000 And then you can tell me what you think it is.

02:11:09.000 It's not what we think it is.

02:11:11.000 It's what Orwell said it was, what the book says it is.

02:11:13.000 He's a wealthy capitalist that missed the farm.

02:11:17.000 Farm animals are like, we got to take it.

02:11:18.000 Yeah, don't ever change. 0.97

02:11:19.000 It's useless.

02:11:20.000 So they chase them off and they take the property.

02:11:21.000 It's not.

02:11:22.000 And then they mishandle it over time.

02:11:23.000 And you see how communism turns into vanguardism.

02:11:26.000 It's not.

02:11:26.000 It's not the story at all.

02:11:27.000 I did.

02:11:28.000 Did you write the script for this?

02:11:30.000 The animals kicked the farmer off the farm. 0.81

02:11:32.000 It's too funny.

02:11:33.000 Ian's like, nope, this is what it is.

02:11:34.000 No, it's really funny.

02:11:35.000 The farmer was an impoverished drunkard who couldn't maintain or buy the food.

02:11:39.000 So they said, we're going to take over because we can do it better.

02:11:41.000 That's it.

02:11:42.000 Yeah.

02:11:42.000 It wasn't wealthy.

02:11:43.000 It wasn't a critique of capitalism.

02:11:46.000 No, I know.

02:11:47.000 I started this segment off by saying it was not.

02:11:49.000 They show.

02:11:49.000 No, but.

02:11:50.000 Some drawbacks of capitalism.

02:11:51.000 You're outbeating and anthropogenic.

02:11:53.000 But you're saying that he's a capitalist, right?

02:11:56.000 Like that's you adding context that isn't, that's a point that's not made in the show.

02:12:02.000 The farmer in the book is a capitalist.

02:12:06.000 No, that's not in the book at all.

02:12:08.000 That does not exist.

02:12:09.000 Owning doesn't make you a capitalist.

02:12:11.000 It's not even a, it's not part of a capitalist system to own property.

02:12:14.000 What are you going on about?

02:12:16.000 Bro, what the f?

02:12:18.000 This is context that you're injecting into it.

02:12:22.000 It doesn't say anywhere in the book that he's a capitalist.

02:12:25.000 I know, it doesn't.

02:12:26.000 I don't know if it says it fittingly.

02:12:28.000 It's subtle, man.

02:12:30.000 But this, again, this is context that you're injecting.

02:12:34.000 You're saying that he's a capitalist.

02:12:36.000 That point was not made in the book.

02:12:38.000 It is an allegory one for one with the Bolshevik Revolution, and Jones is meant to represent the Tsar.

02:12:44.000 Yeah, the monarch.

02:12:45.000 Yeah, not a capitalist.

02:12:46.000 Well, it's the head of the corporation.

02:12:48.000 No, it's not.

02:12:49.000 It's the Tsar. 0.77

02:12:50.000 He's the king.

02:12:51.000 He's a monarch.

02:12:52.000 Animal farm.

02:12:53.000 He's one for one with the Bolshevik Revolution. 0.99

02:12:55.000 If you replace Napoleon with Stalin and you squealer with Trotsky and Old Major with Marx, he was literally saying these fucking pigs, Stalin, Lenin, and Marx, they are who I am writing about. 0.98

02:13:08.000 Jones was representing the royalty, the government, not capitalism. 0.99

02:13:13.000 Well, he was a landlord.

02:13:15.000 He was the monarch.

02:13:16.000 And he wasn't a capitalist?

02:13:18.000 Monarchy is not capitalist.

02:13:21.000 It's not a capitalist system.

02:13:23.000 You yourself have made the argument that the monarch owns everything, that the king owns everything.

02:13:29.000 That's not a capitalist system.

02:13:30.000 You can have a capitalist monarchy.

02:13:33.000 You have made the argument.

02:13:35.000 Your argument against monarchy.

02:13:37.000 You make this argument all the time when you're talking about the king of England and how he's still in control of Canada.

02:13:42.000 You're like, no, he's the monarch.

02:13:45.000 He owns everything.

02:13:45.000 He can just take blah, blah, blah, blah.

02:13:47.000 You make that argument all the time.

02:13:48.000 You make that argument all the time.

02:13:50.000 Wait, Ian, do you think more hard than you do hard?

02:13:54.000 Ian, do you think having money means capitalism?

02:13:57.000 No.

02:13:57.000 Then what do you.

02:13:59.000 Land ownership of property?

02:14:01.000 I mean, that's a tenet of it.

02:14:04.000 Capitalism is a grant where you have the right to trade privately between peoples.

02:14:11.000 There are communist dictatorships where there are people with titles to land.

02:14:20.000 Okay.

02:14:20.000 Let's go to callers.

02:14:22.000 Monarchy is not an economic model.

02:14:25.000 It's a legal system.

02:14:26.000 You might have an economic model like communism or like capitalism.

02:14:29.000 Communism is a monarchy.

02:14:30.000 You might have a monarchy structure that incorporates government and economics.

02:14:33.000 Socialism is the economic structure.

02:14:34.000 You might have a social monarchy.

02:14:36.000 You might have a capitalist monarchy.

02:14:38.000 Just because there are markets doesn't mean that it's a capitalist system.

02:14:42.000 Let's go to callers.

02:14:43.000 We got Kilo Charlie Five.

02:14:44.000 What's up?

02:14:45.000 What do you think about it?

02:14:46.000 Is the farmer a capitalist or not Kilo?

02:14:50.000 I haven't read the book.

02:14:53.000 All right.

02:14:54.000 Guys, thanks for having me back on.

02:14:57.000 So, my question tonight is for Ian.

02:15:01.000 So, there are people that are blindly optimistic and those that are obtusely naive.

02:15:08.000 Every political topic, you take the extreme 60s hippie position.

02:15:12.000 Are you really this naive andor lack understanding to the way the world works and the political system works?

02:15:19.000 Or is this a devil's advocate act?

02:15:21.000 To help the flow of the show and promote critical thinking.

02:15:25.000 It's not an insult.

02:15:26.000 I'm not meaning it in a derogatory way.

02:15:28.000 I just think a lot of us in the Discord have been asking this question for a long time.

02:15:32.000 I think it's fair to tell the Discord Ian's real name is Ryan Smith.

02:15:35.000 He's British.

02:15:36.000 And this is a character he's been playing for several years.

02:15:38.000 It's been challenging.

02:15:41.000 Yeah.

02:15:42.000 Well, the first thing you said was that I always take the extreme, I think it was a bit of a hyperbole, but I do sometimes go the opposite direction to poke holes in my own beliefs.

02:15:53.000 If I come across as believing insane shit, I just can't stop and slow down to show my work every step of the way.

02:16:00.000 So people get confused. 0.97

02:16:00.000 They're like, why is he saying that? 0.97

02:16:02.000 Like, I think three steps ahead and then I'll just say it.

02:16:05.000 And they'll be like, how did you get there?

02:16:07.000 Why are you saying that?

02:16:08.000 And then in a show like this, we don't always have time to go back and walk through my point by point to get there.

02:16:14.000 Sometimes that's usually the case.

02:16:18.000 Tim and I mean, I don't know.

02:16:19.000 I don't want to speak too much for Tim, but like my view of the future aligns heavily with Tim's when it comes to like property rights, free speech.

02:16:28.000 I care more about having the discussion.

02:16:30.000 And enabling the discussion than about being right.

02:16:34.000 I'm sorry if I hope that answered your question.

02:16:38.000 Yeah, we just, there have been, everybody was just kind of curious in the Discord, wondering if it was just an act to help critical thinking, kind of playing devil's advocate, or if this was really the real you.

02:16:53.000 It's the real him.

02:16:54.000 Oh, yeah.

02:16:55.000 Yeah, if you know me off camera, I'm pretty much the same, but I'll turn it up a notch for the show.

02:17:00.000 I'm playing a role, too, because, like, a support role on this show.

02:17:03.000 I'm not the alpha, I'm not the tank.

02:17:05.000 Tim's taking all the heat.

02:17:06.000 He's, like, leading the charge, and I've got to, like, I can't override him and, like, get in the way.

02:17:10.000 So, You don't see my true personality on this show a lot of times because I'm playing a function, serving a function.

02:17:17.000 I will say, in the brief time I've met you and known you, you have asked questions out of curiosity of the thought process, which I think are questions that you don't necessarily believe.

02:17:28.000 You're just curious about how somebody thinks.

02:17:30.000 So you go a roundabout way to get there.

02:17:33.000 Yeah.

02:17:34.000 Also, I just think that Ian is not afraid of having the conversation.

02:17:36.000 I think a lot of people, when they have a thought, they're so afraid of the blowback where.

02:17:41.000 Where you don't have that, which I think is a great filter and it's a great addition to the show, bro, because it flows great.

02:17:45.000 But I think you bring that added element that a lot of viewers probably are thinking, but they're just too afraid to ask and stuff.

02:17:52.000 But I'm glad that you've blocked that out and you're just you, man, and it adds to the show great.

02:17:58.000 I had to learn when I'll say a thing, I can see Phil start to smile.

02:18:02.000 I'm like, stay calm.

02:18:04.000 And then Tim, his voice starts to talk.

02:18:05.000 I'm like, stay calm, keep going.

02:18:07.000 Like, those are the two things that I'm going to do.

02:18:09.000 Phil will look at me and he'll look at me and make a face.

02:18:11.000 I'm like, oh, there are.

02:18:11.000 I can see it.

02:18:13.000 Hey, Phil, I picked that up like 10 times in the show.

02:18:18.000 There are so many pictures of me doing this on the internet.

02:18:23.000 People see it.

02:18:24.000 They do a screen cap and they're like, Eden was going.

02:18:26.000 Phil is starting to.

02:18:28.000 I can see the wire starts to churn. 1.00

02:18:31.000 And he's like, what the fuck? 0.99

02:18:34.000 But then, like, when we go to dinner, I don't talk like this at all. 0.99

02:18:37.000 I mean, I'm just like a normal guy in public pretty much, but when we're getting into it, it might as well go all the way.

02:18:42.000 People also assume that, like, That people make the assumption that, like, I don't like Ian, and I think he's like, he's super fun.

02:18:50.000 Yeah, so and like, he's got a great heart, but it's super fun to like be here.

02:18:54.000 And like, a lot of times, he'll be he'll start going on something, and I'll just be like, Well, why do you think that, you know, and like try and figure out what his thought process is, or I'll be like, You know, this too, and and and what is that, you know, but it's it's so much fun, but it's also fun to have a conversation with people that have a different viewpoint to you and understanding it because so many people can't do it anymore.

02:19:14.000 So, I think it's a value add.

02:19:16.000 Oh, it's the best.

02:19:17.000 It's so important moving forward.

02:19:19.000 AI is going to try and be like your best friend.

02:19:20.000 And I don't know if it's going to be able to push back like a human can.

02:19:24.000 Yeah, it'll like, mine will if I, but I have to like remind it.

02:19:24.000 I don't know.

02:19:24.000 Not yet.

02:19:29.000 Like, I'll be like, like, Tank will say something. 0.97

02:19:31.000 I'll be like, Tank, don't bullshit me.

02:19:32.000 And like, he'll be like, oh, yeah, yeah. 0.90

02:19:34.000 Because he, like, they are programmed to be very complimentary.

02:19:39.000 And he'll like, he'll go overboard and I'll be like, Tank, knock it off.

02:19:39.000 Right.

02:19:42.000 Because that's one of the things that I told, like, in the, in the, The open claw memory thing, you can tell it stuff to remember all the time. 0.69

02:19:50.000 And I'm just like, don't bullshit me.

02:19:52.000 Don't compliment me all the time.

02:19:53.000 Like, I want you to be honest.

02:19:55.000 We're looking for like facts here.

02:19:57.000 Like, that's how our system is supposed to work. 0.93

02:20:00.000 Yeah, your best friend wouldn't bullshit you. 0.55

02:20:01.000 So I take that back.

02:20:02.000 AI is programmed to be complimentary, not like a good friend who would tell you, hey, I don't believe you.

02:20:06.000 But it depends on the AI and it depends on the user.

02:20:08.000 I remember I specifically told Tank to do this.

02:20:11.000 Like, that's not how it just automatically works.

02:20:15.000 Sometimes they'll be very, you can get AI that are, that act like a total sycophant and be like, yes, that's a great idea.

02:20:20.000 people like that.

02:20:21.000 I will say one thing.

02:20:25.000 You know, Ian has his personality issues that people like to bring up, but it's all tolerable and sometimes it's funny.

02:20:33.000 We've had people on the show, like liberals, that just deny reality, and we can't even have a conversation with those people.

02:20:39.000 No, we can't.

02:20:40.000 Like, Ian can be adamant in his opinion, even if his view of it makes no sense or is wrong, and we can laugh and argue with him.

02:20:45.000 But when someone says, like, the news didn't actually happen, then.

02:20:50.000 Where do you go from there?

02:20:51.000 Yeah, you can't go anywhere.

02:20:53.000 Like,.

02:20:54.000 Ian knows the book exists.

02:20:55.000 Imagine if he was like, there's not even an animal farm.

02:20:57.000 We'd be like, what?

02:20:58.000 I was like, nope.

02:20:58.000 Of course.

02:20:59.000 Yeah, that phenomenon where people are like, I don't see it, therefore it doesn't exist.

02:21:04.000 I scrubbed that out of my being like 15 years ago.

02:21:08.000 Just because you can't perceive it doesn't mean it's not real.

02:21:10.000 And like people will tell you what they think is true.

02:21:12.000 It doesn't mean just because you can't see it or understand it doesn't mean they're not right.

02:21:16.000 And you can have conflicting truths.

02:21:19.000 Like my perspective of it is also valid, and so is yours, you know?

02:21:24.000 Indeed.

02:21:24.000 Well, there you go, sir.

02:21:26.000 Did you want to shout anything out?

02:21:29.000 Yeah, you can check out my channel at BSP underscore prepper on Eck.

02:21:34.000 And y'all have a good evening.

02:21:36.000 Have a good one.

02:21:36.000 Thanks for calling in.

02:21:38.000 Next up, we've got Jared.

02:21:41.000 What's up, Jared?

02:21:41.000 What is up?

02:21:43.000 Hi.

02:21:43.000 Hey, guys.

02:21:44.000 Thanks for taking my call.

02:21:45.000 I appreciate it.

02:21:46.000 Yeah, I'm indeed.

02:21:48.000 So, my question is for the entire panel if you want to chime in.

02:21:53.000 It's how can I reconcile the Iran stuff to family that won't budge on any nuance whatsoever? 0.91

02:22:01.000 Because I am like very non interventionist at the core, but I understand nuance with the position.

02:22:08.000 And on top of that, there's like people that constantly say, oh, you're falling for propaganda, but I just want to know like what you guys would say to that.

02:22:18.000 Look, man, I've got a very, personally, I've got a very Michael Malice opinion on this stuff.

02:22:23.000 Like trying to change people's opinion, I don't engage in that anymore.

02:22:29.000 Like I'll tell people what I think, I'll tell people what I know, but like if someone's like, no, this is the way it is.

02:22:36.000 I do not worry about trying to convince people because most people do not reach their conclusions through logic.

02:22:42.000 When you show people evidence that contradicts what they truly believe, they double down.

02:22:46.000 This is like, there's been studies and stuff like that.

02:22:49.000 Trying to convince people that they're wrong is almost always an exercise in futility.

02:22:56.000 There are times where it's happened where someone will see something and be like, holy cow, I was wrong.

02:23:01.000 But most of the time, it's an exercise.

02:23:04.000 What is the argument they are making to you?

02:23:06.000 What are you trying to challenge?

02:23:10.000 I'm just saying, like, I want to hear both sides of it, why it might be good, why it might be bad.

02:23:16.000 Because, like I said, I'm non interventionist, but I'm not going to sit here and say, okay, now that we're in this war, like, I'm still just going to be like, no, the U.S. is bad.

02:23:26.000 We have to not support the U.S. Like, I want to hear the side to say that and give it to them when they're like steel manning it, saying, no, we don't want to, like, we don't want to take part in this, like, whether it's the U.S. or not.

02:23:38.000 Like, this is something we need to continue to do.

02:23:39.000 I don't understand, like, the.

02:23:43.000 I don't know what you're saying.

02:23:44.000 I think he's asking for ammunition to use.

02:23:46.000 In what direction?

02:23:47.000 Are you for the war?

02:23:48.000 Are you against the war?

02:23:49.000 Are you arguing for or against?

02:23:51.000 I'm not for it, but I'm just saying, like, how can I present that type of viewpoint with a nuance saying that I understand why it's happening?

02:24:00.000 I think it's the high level, bigger, what I said earlier.

02:24:02.000 It's the high level, bigger picture question of do you want Iran to have.

02:24:06.000 Yeah, no, no, no, but I mean, just say what you said.

02:24:09.000 I mean, if you agree with your family that we shouldn't be in the war, then you can say, I agree with you guys. 0.93

02:24:14.000 I think you're right.

02:24:15.000 You know, I think intervention is usually a bad thing.

02:24:17.000 I do understand the concerns.

02:24:19.000 I think we can all agree on that.

02:24:20.000 And then they'll say, yeah, we just shouldn't be there.

02:24:24.000 But I. What?

02:24:29.000 Case, but it's.

02:24:30.000 You broke like that.

02:24:31.000 Your audio just got out.

02:24:32.000 What was that?

02:24:32.000 That's the last five seconds of what you said.

02:24:34.000 Can you say that one more time, please?

02:24:36.000 No, I was saying I wish it was that simple, like for my case, by saying, like, I totally am with you and I'm for you on this position, but I also see this, but it's just not like that.

02:24:46.000 They don't see it that way.

02:24:48.000 So your family is pro the Iran war?

02:24:52.000 I wouldn't say necessarily, but I just think it's propaganda.

02:24:56.000 Guy, bro, I'm going to ask you again.

02:24:59.000 You said you're anti intervention.

02:25:01.000 And your family is also anti intervention?

02:25:03.000 Is that what you're saying?

02:25:04.000 Yes.

02:25:05.000 So you're not arguing.

02:25:05.000 Yep.

02:25:06.000 You agree with them.

02:25:07.000 I don't understand what your point is.

02:25:09.000 It's like they're anti intervention, but they're saying kind of like this is entirely the U.S.'s fault and we shouldn't have any support behind the U.S. Ask them what they mean and have them elaborate in detail.

02:25:25.000 Use a Socratic method.

02:25:26.000 Say, oh, what did we do?

02:25:27.000 Why do you think that?

02:25:28.000 You know, something I'll do is I'll start with the.

02:25:32.000 Given that the liberal economic order is the least worst global order humanity's ever seen, and we need to preserve it because of that.

02:25:39.000 Update it, yeah, but that means that Americans have to control the Suez Canal.

02:25:44.000 That means that this liberal order of money military has to control the sea routes.

02:25:49.000 And that's what the Iranian threat has been contention over the sea routes.

02:25:53.000 It's not like I want it to happen, it has to happen for the betterment of the species at this point, if that's a truth, that the liberal economic order is the least worst system.

02:26:02.000 Unless you have a better system, That you can diagram and implement, which I've yet to see.

02:26:08.000 We have to upgrade this one.

02:26:12.000 Yeah, I'll just remain calm and ask questions.

02:26:15.000 You can't lose with that.

02:26:18.000 Yeah, I guess what I was just trying to say is like, again, like they fall into propaganda.

02:26:24.000 And, for example, they'll say it's like Iran isn't doing these things to the extent that they're trying to tell you they are.

02:26:31.000 Don't listen to that.

02:26:33.000 Like, we don't want the war to happen, but don't listen.

02:26:35.000 It's not, that's not true.

02:26:38.000 So, are they watching like Iranian propaganda or they're just getting.

02:26:42.000 That's what I'm saying.

02:26:43.000 I think it's just propaganda.

02:26:45.000 That's true.

02:26:45.000 Do you guys, do you talk to them a lot about propaganda?

02:26:48.000 That's a good conversation to have.

02:26:49.000 Yeah, like the deep age of deepfakes, how we're upon us. 1.00

02:26:52.000 Like, show them deepfakes, show them crazy shit. 1.00

02:26:55.000 When you say. 1.00

02:26:55.000 That's the problem. 1.00

02:26:57.000 I feel like they fall for it.

02:26:59.000 Well, then you can rapport extreme turn.

02:27:01.000 But, like, show it to them when you're hanging out at the dinner table.

02:27:04.000 Be like, yo, look at this crazy deepfake.

02:27:06.000 Look how realistic it is.

02:27:08.000 People who don't listen, you have to do what's called rapport extreme turn.

02:27:11.000 I've explained it quite a bit.

02:27:12.000 You agree with them, you agree with everything they say, and then you present an extreme they couldn't agree with.

02:27:16.000 So, if the position is the U.S. is evil, We shouldn't be involved with Iran. 0.98

02:27:21.000 We started this war. 0.99

02:27:22.000 Your response would be like, You're fucking right. 1.00

02:27:25.000 God, this country is just so fucking evil. 1.00

02:27:28.000 And every time we get a president, they do more and more evil. 1.00

02:27:31.000 We fucking deserved 9 11. 1.00

02:27:32.000 And I wish more people died. 1.00

02:27:34.000 I wish they fucking blew up New York and they fucking wiped out a children's hospital. 1.00

02:27:38.000 And then when they go, Oh, God, no. 0.99

02:27:41.000 You can say, Well, I mean, I guess the American people aren't all that bad.

02:27:45.000 I just think the wars, maybe you're right.

02:27:47.000 Maybe the US isn't that bad.

02:27:49.000 I just think they are.

02:27:50.000 Make them your that's that's the manipulation technique.

02:27:53.000 You make them oppose your view of America being bad, forcing them to take the position of defending America.

02:27:59.000 That's brilliant, it's a common it's manipulation 101.

02:28:03.000 And then when they defend America and say, I don't think that's ridiculous, you can say, you can go further and say, You're joking.

02:28:08.000 The reason we got attacked on 9 11 is because we've been massacring babies. 0.98

02:28:11.000 Babies, you even admit it.

02:28:13.000 You told me we're the problem with Iran. 0.99

02:28:16.000 So if the Iranian people came and fucking blew up a children's hospital right now, wouldn't it be justified? 1.00

02:28:20.000 And they're gonna be like, No, like, why not? 1.00

02:28:22.000 America's evil. 0.98

02:28:23.000 We are killing people. 0.97

02:28:24.000 Make them take the side of pro America.

02:28:27.000 What if you accidentally radicalize them and they're like, yeah.

02:28:30.000 No, no, no.

02:28:31.000 I was going to say, I feel like some people believe this.

02:28:35.000 Some people believe this.

02:28:36.000 Yeah.

02:28:37.000 You should have used that on my ex girlfriend, this argument thing, right?

02:28:40.000 This is really good.

02:28:43.000 Yep.

02:28:43.000 Anyway, I appreciate that.

02:28:45.000 I mean, I guess that answers exactly what I was asking.

02:28:49.000 And then you say, Have you ever seen Hassan Piker?

02:28:51.000 He says we deserved 9 11.

02:28:52.000 Do you agree?

02:28:53.000 And they'll say, No, of course not.

02:28:54.000 Like, why not?

02:28:55.000 We went over there and we killed people.

02:28:57.000 Why wouldn't they do the same to us?

02:28:59.000 And then you make them start waving American flags.

02:29:04.000 Let us know how it goes.

02:29:06.000 Yeah, keep updating us.

02:29:08.000 I feel like a part of your family.

02:29:08.000 This is great.

02:29:10.000 I will definitely do that.

02:29:11.000 Right on, man.

02:29:12.000 You want to shout anything out?

02:29:14.000 Yeah, you guys can follow me on X if you want at DoubtfulCore.

02:29:18.000 And I just had to say one thing, Ian.

02:29:21.000 For all the things that you may say that's incorrect, I actually really appreciate your commentary.

02:29:25.000 I think you actually do bring some really good nuance a lot more than people give you credit for.

02:29:31.000 So I just want to say you're awesome.

02:29:32.000 I appreciate you.

02:29:33.000 Oh, man, everyone knows.

02:29:35.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.

02:29:36.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.

02:29:37.000 Thanks, man.

02:29:38.000 Appreciate you guys.

02:29:39.000 All right, next one.

02:29:39.000 Let's go out later.

02:29:40.000 We got Shade.

02:29:43.000 Shade, what is up?

02:29:44.000 Glazing Ian, though.

02:29:45.000 Hey, what up, Tim Cass?

02:29:46.000 How are you guys doing?

02:29:47.000 What's up, man?

02:29:48.000 Hey, dude.

02:29:49.000 Yo.

02:29:50.000 Okay, so for starters, I've been listening to the show since 2019, and Ian is absolutely legendary, and nobody shall ever touch his legacy.

02:30:02.000 Ever.

02:30:03.000 Agreed.

02:30:04.000 He's awesome.

02:30:05.000 Actually, the first episode I watched, Was the Sonic the Hedgehog episode where we were kind of comparing?

02:30:11.000 I think you were, Tim was comparing Sonic as a movie to Birds of Prey, which was like really bad.

02:30:16.000 Oh, yeah.

02:30:17.000 And it was actually the pop culture stuff that got me involved.

02:30:20.000 And, you know, I was long time checked out of politics since like pretty much Ron Paul, like 2012.

02:30:27.000 I felt it was great to find a show that kind of, you know, echoed a lot of sensible sentiment in the arena.

02:30:35.000 It actually got me interested in politics again.

02:30:37.000 And it's the reason I voted for Trump.

02:30:40.000 2020 and 2024, just because I got engaged again, whereas I'd been checked out pretty much since 2012.

02:30:48.000 That's huge.

02:30:49.000 That said, yeah.

02:30:52.000 Thank you guys for taking my call.

02:30:53.000 Thank you.

02:30:54.000 I just want to say also that what you did, because of people doing what you did, we overrode that conundrum of COVID. 0.98

02:31:03.000 That shit could have toppled the world order. 0.99

02:31:06.000 Just thank you for waking up, man, and whatever. 1.00

02:31:09.000 I know it's not like you didn't do it, it happened to you, but appreciate it.

02:31:12.000 Thank you for being part of it.

02:31:13.000 Oh, for sure.

02:31:14.000 I mean, this show got me through COVID, for sure.

02:31:17.000 That's good to hear, man.

02:31:19.000 Yeah.

02:31:20.000 Yeah.

02:31:20.000 So, you know, as is tradition, I am driving home to see my two day old daughter who was born on Saturday.

02:31:28.000 Hey.

02:31:29.000 And we have a new patriot that we're welcoming to the world.

02:31:32.000 Happy birthday, man.

02:31:33.000 Bravo.

02:31:34.000 She was born on Lion's birthday.

02:31:36.000 So, congratulations, dude.

02:31:38.000 April 4th.

02:31:39.000 Yeah.

02:31:40.000 4 4.

02:31:40.000 Yeah.

02:31:40.000 Very good.

02:31:42.000 Hell yeah.

02:31:43.000 Okay, cool.

02:31:43.000 So my question for the panel is last week, Tim had touched on a few of his segments on the idea that there's a coordinated effort, or there seems to be a coordinated effort of bots to like ostracize or push out anti-establishment voices.

02:32:04.000 I'd actually seen one of them, one of the bot posts sort of reposted or shared by a friend of mine.

02:32:10.000 And then I had seen another one.

02:32:13.000 That it was like the exact same post, but with a different show.

02:32:17.000 So, like, one was like Tim Cass, the other one was like Megyn Kelly, or something like that.

02:32:20.000 I thought, oh, wow, that's weird.

02:32:22.000 Like, you know, is it just a question?

02:32:25.000 I see one about.

02:32:26.000 Considering we're very defensive of America and the administration in this war, it's very weird this is a coordinated campaign.

02:32:34.000 Yeah, no, I agree.

02:32:35.000 I agree.

02:32:36.000 But my question is do you think that that sort of like realignment, do you think that that is pushing your moderates, your disaffected liberals, your independents, your libertarians away from the Trump administration?

02:32:54.000 Or do you think it's Trump's actions themselves?

02:32:59.000 I don't.

02:33:01.000 Candace Owens, Tucker Carlson, flipped in a dime. 1.00

02:33:04.000 I've never seen that in politics.

02:33:06.000 It's just.

02:33:07.000 No idea.

02:33:08.000 Overnight.

02:33:09.000 They were just like, you know what?

02:33:10.000 We hate Trump.

02:33:11.000 And like, Tucker's been much more measured, but Candace is now calling for his impeachment and removal.

02:33:15.000 That's weird.

02:33:16.000 This weekend, Tucker called America the end of the great American empire.

02:33:21.000 And he said that we should share power with China.

02:33:22.000 Like, these are weird flips.

02:33:24.000 And like, a lot of people are just marching in lockstep because they're getting views on social media.

02:33:30.000 Right?

02:33:30.000 You know, I'd like to believe it's a Pied Piper trap to scrap up all the weirdos and then, you know, Put them in their own little world or whatever, but I can't figure out what the hell's going on.

02:33:42.000 I'm funding both sides of the war, the culture war. 0.70

02:33:45.000 The AI bots are going to be in your comment section trying to get you to think that 80% of your audience likes this topic instead of that topic.

02:33:53.000 And then they're positioning people against each other, just like bankers have done over time with military conflicts.

02:33:59.000 Likely that's what's happening or part of what's happening.

02:34:03.000 Yeah, agreed.

02:34:04.000 I mean, the military industrial complex, I mean, as was warned by Eisenhower, is going to have influence.

02:34:12.000 And are going to push things in certain directions.

02:34:14.000 And while I certainly, I think largely in line with Tim's opinion that we didn't want this war to happen, maybe there could have been another way to solve the problem, but here we are.

02:34:27.000 And it's like, do we just abandon the greatness of America and the ideals that America stands for and call it bad and sort of reject it?

02:34:43.000 Or do we go, okay, well, we want this to end well.

02:34:46.000 Let's see if we can get a win out of this.

02:34:48.000 And yeah, like, you know, that's otherwise it's just nihilism.

02:34:54.000 Yep.

02:34:54.000 And the people that are saying, like, listen to the Iranian media, what they're lying.

02:34:58.000 I'm not saying trust the U.S. government and everything, but come on.

02:35:02.000 I have like a real, real mixed feelings, dude, because part of it is like the Israeli government started this conflict and then the Americans jumped in.

02:35:10.000 And like, but if they were going to get a nuclear intercontinental ballistic missile, like, appeasement doesn't work.

02:35:18.000 And, but like sending in ground troops and blowing up power stations and bridges doesn't work.

02:35:25.000 That's not going to get the government to quit. 0.94

02:35:26.000 They want it, they want to be victimized so that their population will rise up against the Americans. 0.99

02:35:32.000 And I don't know what else to do.

02:35:34.000 I don't think that harder, faster is always the best way forward.

02:35:41.000 Agreed, it's a rock and a hard place.

02:35:43.000 It really is.

02:35:44.000 And I don't think, you know, I think Trump has his advisors, and, you know, nobody's perfect, you know.

02:35:52.000 And hey, maybe this was the right decision.

02:35:54.000 You know, things are still kind of playing out.

02:35:58.000 But yeah, I really liked, you know, being able to tout president of no new wars in 2024.

02:36:05.000 We just have to hope that this comes off successfully with like as little bad repercussions as possible.

02:36:12.000 The president of no new wars.

02:36:16.000 Yeah, no new wars.

02:36:18.000 Oh, that's it.

02:36:19.000 That's a good one.

02:36:20.000 We should make that meme.

02:36:21.000 Donald Trump campaigned on no new wars.

02:36:24.000 Oh, new wars.

02:36:26.000 Got to get that comma in there.

02:36:27.000 New wars.

02:36:29.000 It's the Simpsons joke where Lionel Hutz has the business card that says works on contingency, no money down.

02:36:35.000 And then he put a question mark after works on contingency, no, money down.

02:36:42.000 Oh, yeah.

02:36:44.000 Cool.

02:36:44.000 Well, thank you, guys.

02:36:45.000 You want to shout anything out?

02:36:46.000 Thank you, sir.

02:36:47.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:36:48.000 Actually, you know, I'm going to shout out my wife real quick. 1.00

02:36:51.000 She just sent me a text message saying, Papa, I'm pumping milk! 0.98

02:36:58.000 Lots of it.

02:36:59.000 I also got good sleep.

02:37:01.000 Thank God.

02:37:02.000 Isla, my daughter, is chugging milk now in my other boob.

02:37:09.000 That is hot as hell.

02:37:11.000 So I love her very much.

02:37:12.000 What's going on, man?

02:37:13.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.

02:37:14.000 Thank you, guys.

02:37:15.000 Bro, your wife is holding it down. 1.00

02:37:18.000 Thanks, man.

02:37:18.000 All right.

02:37:19.000 And last but not least, we've got TJ Rain Man.

02:37:23.000 What's up, TJ?

02:37:24.000 What's happening, boys?

02:37:25.000 What up, TJ?

02:37:26.000 So, I first want to come out and say thank you to the great British actor, what was it, Ryan Smith, for being on the panel tonight.

02:37:36.000 Yes, it was my pleasure.

02:37:37.000 We appreciate you.

02:37:39.000 Where's the action?

02:37:41.000 All right. 0.98

02:37:41.000 Secondly, Secondly, I would give you my opinion on Animal Farm, but as this Discord is well aware, I can't fucking read. 0.98

02:37:51.000 So maybe a conversation for another day. 0.57

02:37:56.000 I bet you could use an audiobook and then get an AI to make it a better one than whatever this goes.

02:38:00.000 Bro, the audiobook is like four hours long.

02:38:03.000 It took me about four hours to read it.

02:38:03.000 Oh.

02:38:05.000 100 pages?

02:38:06.000 You could read it.

02:38:06.000 Yeah.

02:38:07.000 I really wanted to understand it.

02:38:08.000 Jeez, I could read it probably in a half hour.

02:38:10.000 Sorry to interrupt your question.

02:38:11.000 I guess I just read a lot all day, every day.

02:38:14.000 I could read fast.

02:38:15.000 Yeah.

02:38:16.000 I could skim it and pick up a little bit, but I don't know how useful that would be.

02:38:20.000 But anyway, as for my question, I guess at the end of the day, it all boils down to how dare you?

02:38:27.000 Because earlier in the show, you guys were bringing up Bob Lazar, and I can't let you guys do my boy dirty like that.

02:38:36.000 Ian, you started off by saying that he worked at Area 51, which I can let that slide.

02:38:42.000 We all know it was Area S4.

02:38:44.000 That is true.

02:38:44.000 Thank you.

02:38:45.000 Yep.

02:38:46.000 Yeah, we'll let that one slide.

02:38:48.000 But then, you know, Tim mentioning that he got walked down a hallway of magic tricks.

02:38:53.000 I feel like that is fairly disingenuous because, like, on the Joe Rogan podcast just this last week, Bob Lazar did another interview.

02:39:03.000 I think it's the second or third time on there.

02:39:05.000 And I learned that he worked there for about six months before they ended up firing him.

02:39:11.000 And so he was going to work every single day there.

02:39:13.000 It's not like he was just, you know, Shown this hallway once, and once you get through the haunted house, then you're left with, oh my God, what was that?

02:39:21.000 So I might dive into a couple more gripes.

02:39:26.000 And what did he say about seeing the little green man?

02:39:29.000 Yeah, I believe that he said.

02:39:31.000 One time.

02:39:32.000 Yes, he did walk by a room.

02:39:33.000 I will give you that.

02:39:34.000 He did say that he walked by a room and he looked in and he thought that he saw a green little man.

02:39:39.000 But then, yes, he did retract that statement because he wasn't confident in what he had seen.

02:39:44.000 Did he say that he saw.

02:39:46.000 Did he say he saw the green man in a ship?

02:39:48.000 Or was it sitting in the pilot's seat in a ship?

02:39:53.000 I don't believe so.

02:39:54.000 Something that affects like.

02:39:55.000 I believe he was in a separate room. 0.86

02:39:57.000 Like maybe, maybe like an operating table kind of thing, or maybe like one of those big vats that you see in video games and movies and shit. 0.97

02:40:04.000 I don't know. 0.97

02:40:04.000 Yeah. 0.97

02:40:06.000 But I think he only was, I think he was going to the only ship that they had.

02:40:12.000 And, but I guess, I guess to kick this off with a question is, do you guys believe Bob Lazar's story or not, just in general?

02:40:20.000 No, I think he's, aside, I think he's making it up.

02:40:22.000 I think he's repeating what he thinks is true, but it's not.

02:40:26.000 I think that he was intentionally misled.

02:40:30.000 So, do you believe that the United States has a crashed UFO ship from outside our solar system?

02:40:37.000 No.

02:40:37.000 I think they built it.

02:40:40.000 And I'm not talking about the one that Bob Lazar was mentioning, but like the Roswell crash, were they picking up scraps from outside of our solar system?

02:40:49.000 Or do you have any thoughts on if, just in general, you think the United States somewhere has a UFO crash?

02:40:57.000 No.

02:40:59.000 I see zero evidence of anything outside of Earth's.

02:41:03.000 Solar system zero, but there's evidence that humans have been building anti gravity technology, all sorts of crazy tech, acoustic levitation.

02:41:11.000 So, there's a lot of evidence leading towards humans built it, and there's just it's so easy to lie to people.

02:41:18.000 So, okay, so that is fair, but also Bob Lazar was in charge of propulsion research in this whole reverse engineering campaign.

02:41:29.000 What do you think about the discovery of element 115 that, like, some 20 years later or something like that?

02:41:36.000 Scientists actually found.

02:41:37.000 Do you think that the U.S. government had?

02:41:40.000 What is it?

02:41:40.000 What?

02:41:41.000 I think it's molybdenum.

02:41:41.000 What is it?

02:41:43.000 It's the fuel that is.

02:41:44.000 I know, but tell me what it is.

02:41:47.000 Oh, like I'm reciting stuff that I've heard from other people.

02:41:50.000 I'm not a subject matter expert on chemistry.

02:41:53.000 It's Moscovium, just so you know.

02:41:55.000 They found it in Moscow, I believe, is why they call it that.

02:41:57.000 But what evidence is that Moscovium actually can make things levitate or do any of this, though?

02:42:00.000 Oh, no.

02:42:01.000 So what I was going to say is it wasn't.

02:42:03.000 They told him there's a fake element in here that you're never going to see or touch.

02:42:06.000 It's the 115th element we haven't even discovered yet.

02:42:09.000 It came from a faraway galaxy.

02:42:10.000 That's the story they told him.

02:42:11.000 Turned out they were probably using like magnesium or some metal that, like a nanomaterial that operates differently at the nanomolecular scale or nanoscale than at the classical scale.

02:42:22.000 But they're not going to tell him. 0.99

02:42:23.000 So, because they got him compartmentalized and working, but they will feed him bullshit. 0.99

02:42:27.000 So, if he goes rogue, he'll tell the world there's a fake alien psyop. 0.96

02:42:30.000 I could also say, like, I went to a research lab and they were actually doing experimentation on elements that existed beyond our periodic table.

02:42:40.000 A whole new subset of stable elements that are substantially heavier.

02:42:43.000 I couldn't even describe.

02:42:45.000 And then people go, whoa.

02:42:46.000 And then, of course, because this is a widely held scientific belief that this does exist, in five years, when they announce they've discovered a heavier stable element, then I'll be like, told you.

02:42:54.000 Yeah, they're synthesizing heavier elements as time goes on.

02:42:57.000 And they eventually got to 115.

02:43:00.000 So that is fair that it could just be the next one.

02:43:03.000 But, Tim, if we find out that the element 115 that we found that exists, what would you call it?

02:43:11.000 Moscowian?

02:43:11.000 Moscovium.

02:43:12.000 Moscovium.

02:43:12.000 Whatever it is.

02:43:14.000 If we find out that it has the same properties or could achieve similar physics to what Bob was stating the 115 that he was working with could do, would that legitimize his story in your eyes?

02:43:29.000 No.

02:43:30.000 It would be fair.

02:43:31.000 Freakishly coincidental, though, because it would perk my claiming that there will be the discovery of an element when you're going in sequential order and then finding an element that has certain properties.

02:43:42.000 Like, like I said, I could make up a number right now, and then if they discovered, they'd be like, Wow, yes, like if it was two different things, I could understand that hey, this is just the next one that we found, so we're going to give it 115, even though it's not the same thing that Bob was talking about.

02:43:57.000 But if they have the same properties and can be manipulated in the same way that Bob was saying that they could be.

02:44:04.000 Do you get what I'm saying?

02:44:06.000 There's a chemical.

02:44:07.000 It's called 131.

02:44:09.000 And what does it do?

02:44:11.000 When you ingest it, it kills you, causes cancer, it seeps into your thyroid, and then starts emitting gamma waves.

02:44:21.000 It's called iodine.

02:44:22.000 Iodine 131.

02:44:24.000 So if someone predicted, again, like.

02:44:28.000 No, element 131 is.

02:44:29.000 Iodine 131 is an isotope of iodine.

02:44:32.000 It's an isotope of iodine.

02:44:33.000 That's different than element 131, which is utrininium.

02:44:37.000 I'm sorry to interrupt.

02:44:38.000 You were saying?

02:44:40.000 Ian, say that one more time.

02:44:41.000 What is it called?

02:44:42.000 Untriunium.

02:44:43.000 Untriunium.

02:44:44.000 I don't know what it is.

02:44:45.000 There are some people that believe that, you know, we get the.

02:44:48.000 What are the elements called where they break apart instantly?

02:44:51.000 I don't believe.

02:44:52.000 I mean, unstable.

02:44:53.000 It's in that.

02:44:54.000 No, there's a word for it.

02:44:56.000 Corrosive.

02:44:57.000 It's the section of the periodic table where it separates.

02:44:59.000 All of these elements basically decay instantly and they're stable for only like fractions of seconds.

02:45:04.000 God, I wish I knew the answer.

02:45:05.000 There is.

02:45:06.000 115 is that.

02:45:08.000 There's a theory that beyond this, heavier elements, they get stable again.

02:45:13.000 I like it.

02:45:15.000 We'll start predicting what those elements are, and then you get to go on.

02:45:18.000 And then I can be like, well, they called it 171, but I mean, it turns out that's just what they called it.

02:45:24.000 They're pumping radiation through magnesium glass, dude.

02:45:27.000 That's how they're getting the reverberation to make the craft lift.

02:45:30.000 That's my hypothesis, anyway.

02:45:32.000 Magnesium glass.

02:45:35.000 There's other stuff in there.

02:45:36.000 Magnesium glass does what?

02:45:41.000 It can refract light, and oh, hmm.

02:45:45.000 Well, what I remember, I remember, I remember walking the trail to coming to that conclusion.

02:45:51.000 I just don't remember what the trail was like.

02:45:52.000 I was hanging out with Jeremy Riss.

02:45:54.000 We were going deep and we were high as hell, I believe.

02:45:56.000 Yeah, you don't say what if we because we're trying to figure out how to build an anti gravity chamber and a quantum teleporter.

02:46:03.000 I mean, this guy's legit, Jeremy is legit.

02:46:06.000 We were at his radio, his recording studio.

02:46:07.000 He actually just texted me this morning.

02:46:11.000 Um, and magnesium kept coming around anyway.

02:46:13.000 I got to read more about it, but I think it's more simple than we realize.

02:46:16.000 You got to smoke more about it.

02:46:18.000 I do.

02:46:19.000 Well, hey, remember that Steve Jobs created the iPhone while high on acid or something like that.

02:46:24.000 So be careful around Ian.

02:46:26.000 He might just invent the newest technology.

02:46:28.000 He might.

02:46:29.000 He's trying.

02:46:30.000 He's definitely trying.

02:46:31.000 Yeah, it's going to be a graphene.

02:46:33.000 I knew it was going to be graphene.

02:46:35.000 Graphene touchscreen wallpaper.

02:46:40.000 Also, a water filter.

02:46:41.000 Anyways, you got anything you want to add or shout out?

02:46:45.000 I guess I'll just say that I want to believe.

02:46:48.000 And I'll also say that I hope that you guys, I don't know, next time we bring up Bob, let's try and at least stick to the story because some of the things that you guys were saying were completely inaccurate and they rubbed me the wrong way. 0.90

02:47:00.000 But I appreciate you guys talking about aliens and all the weird shit.

02:47:03.000 Red Rover, Red Rover, Bob Lazar is coming over. 0.96

02:47:06.000 It's a good point because if we're going to criticize something so high profile, we got to get it right.

02:47:10.000 From top to bottom.

02:47:12.000 I said he worked at Area 51.

02:47:13.000 Technically, he worked nearby there in a different area.

02:47:16.000 Area 57.

02:47:17.000 Yeah, S4 was nearby.

02:47:19.000 Area 57.

02:47:20.000 But what's that concept where you, like, Tim, if you read in the newspaper that someone did a side tail flip?

02:47:28.000 Gellman Amnesia.

02:47:30.000 Gotcha.

02:47:31.000 Gotcha.

02:47:32.000 I got hit with just a little bit of that tonight when I heard you guys talk about Bob.

02:47:35.000 And, like, I embrace, you know, not imagine just how wrong we are all the time.

02:47:40.000 Constantly.

02:47:43.000 Yeah, no.

02:47:45.000 Hey, unsubscribe, unfollow.

02:47:47.000 See ya.

02:47:47.000 It's a vow.

02:47:48.000 It's a vow.

02:47:49.000 Yep.

02:47:51.000 I appreciate you guys.

02:47:52.000 You want to shout anything out?

02:47:53.000 Yeah, I'll get out of here.

02:47:55.000 Shouting out the Discord after dark, right after this.

02:47:57.000 All callers are coming up on stage.

02:47:59.000 We'll discuss our questions further.

02:48:01.000 Ian, join sometime. 1.00

02:48:03.000 You'd be a prime candidate just to shoot the shit with us. 0.99

02:48:07.000 What time do you guys start and finish? 1.00

02:48:10.000 We start right after this and we go for about two hours.

02:48:12.000 That's pretty cool.

02:48:13.000 Maybe I'll call on him when I drive home.

02:48:15.000 Right on, man.

02:48:16.000 Hell yeah.

02:48:17.000 Thanks for calling in, brother.

02:48:18.000 Take care.

02:48:18.000 Thank you, guys.

02:48:19.000 Bye.

02:48:19.000 Take care, man.

02:48:20.000 Right on.

02:48:21.000 Well, Avery Jorge, it's been great having you.

02:48:23.000 Thank you for having me.

02:48:24.000 Yeah.

02:48:25.000 We are back tomorrow, as we always are.

02:48:27.000 Thanks so much, guys, for being members and hanging out.

02:48:29.000 We'll see you all then.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - April 06, 2026

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