00:02:54.000They think that this is a big hoax campaign, that NASA isn't real, it's demonic, and that there's like this gondola that came out of the launch site.
00:03:02.000They say that's where the astronauts escaped to, and they've been staging this whole thing.
00:03:24.000In the meantime, Tim Burchett followed up on the statement he made last week when he said, If the American people learned about these briefings on aliens, the nation would become unglued.
00:03:36.000They came to him and said, They're real, that aliens and alien technology have been in contact with humans.
00:03:41.000And I certainly hope it's not the way Matt Gaetz explained it, where he said, Women were being kidnapped to be forced to carry the babies of aliens to create alien human hybrids.
00:03:57.000Donald Trump also pulled off a historic rescue mission involving what is it, like hundreds of aircraft, like 100 plus aircraft, to rescue one guy who climbed up 7,000 feet while bleeding and activating his beacon.
00:04:21.000At the same time, I'm just, it's a weird place in the podcast space these days.
00:04:26.000The podcasts that tend to do the best right now are the ones that are rooting against the United States.
00:04:30.000And by all means, I'm not saying every single one of these top podcasts critical of the war in Iran is rooting against us, but some of them literally are.
00:04:37.000And they're telling people to watch the Iranian media for truth, which is just crazy.
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00:06:49.000I was living in England for the past three years, moved back when Trump was elected, and I started posting because I felt like people didn't know what was happening in Europe.
00:08:48.000In all seriousness, the plan is they went around the moon charting it, basically looking for resources because we are going to establish moon mining.
00:08:57.000I'm so glad I made a video about mining the moon in like 2007.
00:09:22.000Yeah, the moon is a big part of the tide.
00:09:24.000I mean, that's true too, but I mean, like, imagine 100 years from now we've overmined the moon, and there's very, like, we've just ripped out, let's say, 3%, and it shifts the moon's weight and Earth's mass increases by 0.3% of moon mass.
00:09:41.000So we have to take dirt to the moon and replace what the rocks we take.
00:10:29.000I listen to a lot of podcasts with futurists and stuff, and there's this one dude who's like, totally, he's like, the moon had it coming.
00:10:36.000We are going to totally disassemble the moon, and we're going to strip mine it and turn it into a Dyson sphere, which is basically a means to collect a significant portion of the sun's energy.
00:10:48.000Look, I'm not saying that it's a good idea because I do think that the fact that it would affect the tides is probably something that we actually have to think about.
00:10:56.000But that kind of big idea is the stuff that people are actually starting to talk about seriously now.
00:11:03.000Like the idea of a million satellites in space that are part of Elon Musk's data center.
00:11:10.000He's literally talking about putting, eventually, a million satellites in space.
00:11:15.000It scales up so exponentially because drone swarm construction will be, size won't matter when you're building things, really.
00:11:22.000Just because gravity is not an issue, height doesn't exist in space.
00:11:25.000So you'll have a trillion drones all building this machine at once.
00:11:53.000Apparently, my entire generation, my friends, basically everyone that I interact with socially, Thinks that I'm the dumbest person alive for thinking that we went to the moon, which is terrifying in and of itself.
00:12:07.000And then terrifying because I think it's an op.
00:12:42.000I'm just saying, like, fundamentally, a bunch of dudes in a room with a chalkboard drafted up the trajectory of being like, we're going to blast them up on a rocket and point them straight at the moon.
00:12:59.000Like, we were talking about this before the show.
00:13:01.000Like, the reason the U.S. was so focused on the space program was because it was a surrogate for building.
00:13:09.000For achieving the ability to send a ballistic missile to the other side of the planet.
00:13:13.000It was a surrogate, it was Cold War, basically part of the Cold War.
00:13:18.000The reason they wanted to be able to shoot rockets to the moon is if you can get a rocket to the moon, you can definitely get a rocket to Moscow.
00:13:24.000And not just that, the great fear that the US was trying to instill in other countries, aside from the fact, hey, we can launch a rocket into space and then at you, was that we could have missiles on the moon.
00:13:34.000The idea was that if we went to the moon and kept going there, what could we have there and could we launch attacks from.
00:13:40.000From the moon, because lunar gravity is not particularly strong.
00:13:44.000That being said, I have to admit something, and that is most businesses and even governments operate on the cost benefit analysis model that's standard.
00:13:55.000And I got to tell you, if Ian came to me and said, we should prove how great of a podcast we are by climbing the Mount Everest and doing the show there with Starlink, and it would be amazing, I'd be like, that's a really great idea.
00:14:09.000It would be a lot cheaper if we just made a fake Mount Everest set and didn't actually do it, and we'd accomplish the same thing.
00:14:16.000So I do understand why people believe there was a motivation not to go to the moon.
00:14:19.000But I will add this the functional reason, as Phil pointed out, why I think we probably did was the US is sitting in a room, and here's what I think really happened they said, hey, We want to blow up Moscow.
00:14:31.000Well, we've got a bunch of rockets, but they're easily detected.
00:14:45.000You think the American people are going to tolerate you building a world ending 100 megaton vertical drop bomb onto Moscow?
00:14:53.000You're going to request this budget, and people are going to be standing off in Florida looking at this thing you're building and saying, Why are you doing this?
00:15:46.000But the thing is, like, those, the people that are so distrusting of the government, like, there's a reason for that.
00:15:53.000And a lot of it, I think, is because of COVID, personally.
00:15:56.000I think that the COVID narrative that turned out to not be true really did, you know, did a whole one shot on a lot of people.
00:16:03.000It ruined a lot of people's youth because if you're 16, 17 years old and you have to be locked in your house for two years, And you miss all the things that normal 16, 17, 18 year olds miss or do, and then come to find out it was for no reason, you feel like you got duped.
00:16:36.000You know, so I understand why they're so suspicious and so skeptical.
00:16:41.000So, my point largely is again, if documents were uncovered that showed we never actually went to the moon, that was cover for spending $300 billion to make planetary stratospheric nuclear strikes on our enemies.
00:16:54.000And we wanted them to know we could do it.
00:16:57.000Because what the American people don't get for the most part on average, you talk to someone about the moon missions, they go, yeah, it was really cool, went to the moon.
00:17:04.000What do you think the Russians were thinking when they saw this footage?
00:17:19.000They have built a missile that can go to the moon and back.
00:17:22.000So, that being said, if documents came out saying we never actually went and there was a soundstage for the purpose of a cover so we could build rockets to make nuclear bombs that come straight down, I'd be like, oh, that's entirely plausible.
00:17:35.000However, I actually think if we can make rockets that can do that, there's not a firmament that's going to stop us from actually going to the moon.
00:17:46.000Was it viable to plant weapons on the moon that could be used to launch strikes?
00:17:51.000In the event US nuclear capabilities are destroyed, what if we had missile silos or a moon base or weapons that could be launched from the moon?
00:17:59.000I think the real purpose of the moon landings, to be honest, my conspiracy theory is when they launched the return, what was it, the lander, it launched out.
00:18:08.000They were testing whether or not they could deploy a weapon from the moon without needing a base.
00:18:13.000You could deposit a weapon that lands on the moon and relaunch it at a later date with minimal energy, and it would just fly straight towards the Earth.
00:18:23.000Are you guys familiar with rods from God?
00:18:47.000Because my understanding was that the amount of energy to get a gigantic tungsten rod into orbit was tremendous and to maintain its orbit was insane.
00:18:56.000So they ultimately were like, it's just too much energy to hold in this pattern.
00:19:01.000But if you landed something on the moon, you don't need that much energy to kick it off the moon.
00:19:05.000So I'll just put it like this I don't understand why, like, just honestly, when you think about it, we have rockets, we have ICBMs.
00:19:13.000I guess some people don't believe those exist either.
00:19:15.000I don't think it's that difficult to just point it at the moon.
00:19:17.000Like, they don't literally point at the moon.
00:19:36.000I think that in the past, yeah, it was.
00:19:38.000This particular kind of iteration of the space program, I think that the Trump administration really does want to see America do inspirational things again.
00:19:48.000Whether it's a good thing or not is up for debate.
00:20:23.000We could use probably moon rock so it doesn't explode in our atmosphere.
00:20:27.000And then we're Completely energy dependent.
00:20:30.000And if we get there before China, because China's going to get there, they're projected to get there about 2030.
00:20:35.000And Artemis 4 is going to be, what did we say, 2028 is estimated.
00:20:40.000And so we're quite literally, so China said that they're going to land 2030.
00:20:44.000And their program is, they're looking to land 2030.
00:20:47.000So we are actually in a race, in the AI race with China, we are now in a race to the moon because if they can do this and create this energy monopoly, it's whoever gets there first.
00:21:14.000It's like a, it's this gigantic arc shaped structure.
00:21:18.000And inside of it, they have basically like a hammer that spins around super fast and then launches the object out of a tube using, you know, centripetal force.
00:21:30.000And the thing about with the moon, you don't need that much energy to escape.
00:21:36.000So, and because with Earth's gravity being stronger, it'll drift straight towards the Earth, towards the target.
00:21:41.000So, we could be launching materials back relatively easily.
00:21:45.000So, we have to deploy resources to the moon for construction and for a moon base.
00:21:51.000We're going to have to have vehicles for return missions for humans, of course, but for materials, they're going to launch them like on a slingshot.
00:21:57.000You could have that spin launch thing where you fire off non organics through an accelerating magnetic.
00:22:07.000Slingshot that you would need it, like a rail.
00:22:09.000You would not need it, but you might be able to use it to speed up transit time.
00:22:12.000So you just wait till it gets right to, just like you said, lead the target, and then you launch it through this tube.
00:22:17.000These are things that send it like 10 times faster or 100 times faster.
00:22:22.000And then you could catch it in a series of tubes.
00:22:59.000She said, This is a satanic administration.
00:23:01.000We all realize that satanic Zionists occupy the White House and Congress needs to move to have the mad king Trump removed.
00:23:08.000All of our lives may depend upon other countries realizing that Trump is deeply unwell and surrounded by religious fanatics who have convinced him that he's a messiah.
00:23:34.000But the implication is Congress needs to have him removed, and our lives may depend on other countries realizing that Trump is deeply unwell.
00:23:43.000It's not just her, but there are many prominent personalities.
00:23:46.000I'm not going to name all the other podcasters.
00:23:48.000She's just one of the more prominent ones, so she's going to get the name recognition.
00:23:52.000But there are prominent personalities that I'm watching with these viral clips basically saying look, they're basically saying the U.S. is wrong, Iran is right.
00:24:01.000And it is insane that that exists in our media and that it is sponsored, like that companies pay for these people to keep running this content, basically rooting for the destruction of this country.
00:24:13.000And I want to stress, I'm not just saying podcasts that are like the war with Iran is bad.
00:24:18.000I'm like, that's an opinion that was always allowed.
00:24:20.000I'm talking about ones that are saying outright that our government is evil, that Trump is a mad king that needs to be stopped.
00:24:27.000What distinction, what distinguishes Candace from any other leftist now?
00:24:37.000Her base, which is the scary part, is that people have gone, they've gone so black pilled though.
00:24:41.000There's this like sect of conservatism that is not the antithesis of conservatism.
00:24:46.000And they go down this black pill rabbit hole and they go into all these conspiracies and they don't trust the government so much that there's no distinction between fact or reality.
00:24:57.000And Candace's audience is not liberal.
00:25:20.000Blake Lively's relationship is not a conservative issue, right?
00:25:25.000Brigitte McCrone being a man is not a conservative political issue.
00:25:29.000And the drama of conspiracy with Charlie Kirk is only tangentially political.
00:25:35.000Yeah, I was just like in Minneapolis covering the rights and all the white liberal women that I met.
00:25:40.000All lefties, but they all listen to Candace and they all march to that beat of her drum.
00:25:46.000I even saw some of the podcasters kind of in this space also even sharing like a story that even with this F 15 fighter jet rescue operation, that the US military was like trying to kill our own airmen on the ground and people like shared that.
00:26:00.000And it seems like that type of content is just on this algorithm.
00:26:39.000So Jake Tepper calls him out and says, He's pushing this Iranian media source claiming that the US was trying to kill its own guy.
00:26:44.000And he said Jake Tapper's job is to stop you from thinking critically.
00:26:48.000You should be watching American media and Iranian media.
00:26:51.000And I will say, I don't disagree, but I'm going to tell you Iranian media is outright lying about everything related to what we are doing because they are in the business of being our enemies and arming people in the region.
00:27:05.000Now, look, if Iran wasn't arming Houthi rebels and giving militia groups weapons to kill people in the region, and you know, erase all of that.
00:27:16.000If Iran wasn't blowing up civilians in this war, maybe I'd be inclined to believe something that their government or state media had to say.
00:27:23.000But a fundamentalist country that marches in lockstep is not a country with what I would describe as trustworthy news.
00:27:30.000In the United States, you have, as much as powerful people don't like it, Nick Fuentes gets his message out, CNN gets theirs out too, and you actually have choices within the American population that will give you contrasting viewpoints.
00:27:44.000And for all of my complaints, we actually have.
00:27:48.000We've got Crowder, who is obviously more pro Trump on this one.
00:29:01.000We don't have to pretend like the U.S. is trying to free anybody.
00:29:05.000The U.S. wants control of natural gas and oil around the world, and they will blow up whoever they have to to get it.
00:29:10.000And if your concern about the war in Iran has to do with the morality of collateral damage and blowing up bridges, I respect that argument.
00:29:19.000The Trump administration, or any administration in the US, comes out and says they hate us for our freedom or they're slaughtering protesters, is because they can't come out and say, Listen, we are going to force them to bend the knee so they stop arming extremists and they get their oil and energy on the global trade system.
00:29:36.000And if we have to blow up their power plants to do it, we will.
00:30:07.000So, a graphite string bomb, also known as a blackout bomb, is a non lethal weapon designed to disable electrical power grids by releasing conductive carbon filaments, graphite fibers, over power infrastructure.
00:30:19.000He's not looking to blow up the power plants.
00:32:47.000Ian, if I say, I want to fight you, we're going to have fisticuffs, and you say, and then you pull out a hammer and say, I will crack Card over the skull if you try it, I'm going to be like, bro.
00:32:56.000But if you attack me and you leave your baggage train unguarded with the women and children, you better believe they're all dying.
00:33:04.000They were other countries transporting goods through the Red Sea, and the Houthis bombed them because they were like, we will not let you have trade because Israel's at war with Gaza and the U.S. is allied.
00:33:16.000We're going to bomb random civilians in the Red Sea and blow up their cargo ships.
00:33:23.000We don't have to support Israel or be happy about what they're doing, but the idea that the retaliation against Israel is arming psychopaths to bomb civilians, I'm sorry, those are the bad guys.
00:33:33.000And so the US finally gets involved in a war with Iran.
00:33:36.000I am not suggesting we should have or that it was good.
00:33:38.000My argument is we didn't just willy nilly start a war with Iran.
00:33:42.000I'm not happy that we're involved with it.
00:33:44.000I would like us to not be involved with it.
00:33:46.000I'm concerned about the long term effects.
00:33:47.000Gas is at $4, diesel is at $6 near us.
00:33:50.000That's freaky and it's bad for us politically, and there are risks.
00:33:53.000But again, I think it was the Bill Burr joke.
00:33:55.000I can't remember who pointed out on the show that you can argue we shouldn't have gone into Iran.
00:34:26.000But I will just say, To the people who think Israel controls our foreign policy, Donald Trump did not discombobulate Caracas and then seize Maduro to get access to all of their oil infrastructure because Israel wanted him to do it.
00:34:39.000He did it because he knew the U.S. was going to make a move on Iran and Trump was going to regime change them.
00:34:45.000Again, there are these arguments and the propaganda oh, they're killing civilians, there's protests, the people don't like it.
00:34:51.000None of that is really relevant to what the military is trying to accomplish.
00:34:54.000That's a narrative that works for regular people who don't pay that much attention to be told, we're the good guys.
00:34:59.000I think any way you cut it, There's going to be collateral damage, which is bad, and the U.S. goes to great lengths to avoid it, but we are the good guys here.
00:35:40.000No, they started giving weapons to lunatics who were bombing embassies and killing people.
00:35:43.000They're using secret weapons programs.
00:35:45.000Ian, if I go to you and I say, I'm going to give you your money back, you don't have to bend the knee, and then you plot a gun and shoot a kid, you're getting the boot.
00:37:35.000And so they didn't really have any other options in funding their other proxy groups because they didn't have the money because their economy is plummeting because of all the work that Israel and the U.S. did.
00:38:26.000I don't even feel a need to analogize a situation like this because I think it's obvious, but let's put it like this Ian, you live on a city street, and one block over, there's a guy who keeps giving guns to gangbangers, and they're shooting people with it, and they're robbing people.
00:38:40.000And you go to him and say, Bro, if you keep doing this, we are going to lock you down.
00:38:46.000We're going to stop letting delivery trucks come out of the street.
00:39:38.000Winston was a war man, he was a fighter.
00:39:41.000This war really does boil down to a very high level question, and it's do you believe Iran should have the capabilities to develop nuclear weapons?
00:39:56.000I mean, well, how we get rid of it is a big part of the debate.
00:40:01.000You know, my concern with U.S. military foreign policy largely is around wanton actions, violence, collateral damage, but principally the failure of function.
00:40:13.000And that is, Iraq was miserable, Afghanistan was doubly miserable.
00:40:18.000Obviously, these moves against Iraq and Afghanistan, for anyone who's been paying attention, were a pincer strike against Iran because Iran has basically been funding all of the chaos and destabilizing the region.
00:40:28.000Barack Obama's strategy with Syria and ISIS and was it Timber Sycamore?
00:40:33.000Miserable American foreign policy across the board, just all the time.
00:40:37.000And now you've got collateral damage in Iran.
00:40:39.000That being said, the U.S. is the most moral and righteous country on the planet.
00:40:47.000And in terms of global powers, historically, it is the most moral and it is the best.
00:40:53.000Certainly, you can point to things that the U.S. has done that are bad.
00:41:06.000I don't think that the United States is a pure goodness all the time.
00:41:09.000I just think that when you look at what China does, there is deranged psychotic evil and ethnocentric evil militaristic policies, like with the rape of Uighur Muslims in concentration camps and forced abortions and things like that.
00:41:23.000Take a look at the conflict that's happening with Kashmir.
00:42:03.000But my point is, when I say this, is not to be derisive and insult all that America is.
00:42:06.000It's to point out that we are not particularly brutal.
00:42:10.000We are fairly brutal, but compared to administrations of various governments past, we are the least brutal global hegemon.
00:42:17.000Although I think the stories of World War II was that the Americans were the most terrifying guys to come into contact with because they were like a bunch of farm boys that would rip your throat out and they were happy to do it.
00:42:27.000That's what the stories of the Japanese tell.
00:42:29.000Maybe, but you take a look at the Japanese unit.
00:43:18.000I'm going to say this with all seriousness, and let's talk about aliens.
00:43:20.000I'm going to say this with all seriousness.
00:43:23.000It may be that one of the reasons they will not release the Epstein info is because the children are being trafficked for the explicit purpose of alien hybrid programs.
00:43:34.000And the reason why I say I'm only half kidding is while I do not believe that's the case, with Matt Gaetz coming out and saying that they have alien hybrid programs, and now Tim Burchett is saying aliens are real, if those people are telling the truth, and have you seen all the crazy videos of stuff in the sky that's been going on?
00:43:51.000Like, I think that's what Epstein was.
00:43:54.000However, I would put that at an astronomically low percentage.
00:44:16.000The way you described this, whatever happened and this meeting, this briefing that was happening, was there something that if we knew, we would feel that we are in danger?
00:44:49.000And I think that I just think, but I do think they have the technology and the capabilities of something that we can't understand or we can't grasp.
00:44:59.000What I want to make sure I'm understanding is a member of our government has told you and others, I guess, that there is a form of alien life and machinery which maybe brought this living creature here that interacted in some form with people.
00:45:37.000But, you know, this is what the guy told me.
00:45:39.000I mean, I've had a very high ranking naval official describe, you know, I've talked about this before, underwater craft, something big as a football field moving at over 200 miles an hour.
00:45:51.000And there's no fish in the ocean that would do that.
00:45:53.000We don't even have a sub that'll probably do 40 miles an hour under the, And the last thing he said before he left my office was, it was kind of weird because he didn't go out the side door, which nobody ever uses.
00:46:06.000And he looked at me, he pulled me up close, and he said, Tim, they're real.
00:46:09.000And that's the last thing he said to me.
00:46:11.000That'll be the title of my book, I guess.
00:46:13.000Matt Gaetz was involved in something here just recently.
00:46:16.000He was interviewed and he talked about this interbreeding thing with.
00:51:33.000He went to Area 51, where he used to work, and he said that inside they brought him inside and they showed him what I think were drones, different designs.
00:51:40.000And he's like, oh my God, with like metamaterials that hadn't been seen yet, you know, nanotech.
00:51:44.000And so they told him they're alien craft, and they may have even put an animal or a stuffed animal or something in one.
00:51:50.000And they were like, look, now we're talking about chimeras.
00:51:53.000Hold on, I'm sorry, I'm sorry to interrupt, but they don't need metamaterials or nanoparticles.
00:52:18.000A lot of the countries don't even know we're at war still.
00:52:20.000There is a really great reason to make a fake campaign tricking Bob Lazar.
00:52:25.000The first is the assumption that Bob Lazar is in on the whole thing.
00:52:28.000And they said, here's the story we want you to present.
00:52:31.000However, that's tough to maintain, right?
00:52:33.000The easier thing to make someone a true believer would be to take a guy who should be contracted for this job, set up a stage, like not like a staging area, where you have a bunch of magic tricks and he sees them and you tell him they're real.
00:52:47.000And then he runs to the media and leaks it.
00:53:21.000I think they make him see all these things that he wants to believe, and then they set him up to go and leak to a reporter, and it makes great news, and then everyone tells the world America has access.
00:54:24.000The main concept here is standing waves.
00:54:26.000Standing waves can happen anywhere you use the right frequency on a confined medium.
00:54:31.000Like when you disturb a slinky at one end, the disturbance Or, the wave travels to the other end.
00:54:35.000If I then constrain or bound the slinky at the other end, the wave will reflect back.
00:54:40.000The places along the standing wave that aren't moving at all are called nodes.
00:54:43.000The nodes here are the places where the air is not moving, even though it's moving a lot everywhere else around the node.
00:54:48.000So, in our levitator, our little pieces of styrofoam and lint get held there at the nodes because if they're anywhere else, they'll get pushed back in or pushed out.
00:54:57.000And there you have acoustic levitation.
00:55:00.000Have you ever imagined if the U.S. government built a massive stadium sized acoustic levitator because we have the tech?
00:55:24.000Although it would be interesting if there is a way to create a self contained acoustic wave generator that could create standing waves that could move, almost like a rudimentary warp technology that moves the waves, causing you to stick to the node and move around.
00:55:59.000There's something about reversing horizontal momentum or increasing horizontal momentum by spinning super fast that it reduces vertical momentum to zero.
00:56:07.000And then you're able to kind of go wherever.
00:56:20.000To become superconducting, the material has to be cooled to extremely low temperatures using liquid nitrogen, which can dramatically change the properties of materials.
00:56:29.000When a superconductor is placed into the magnetic field above a magnet, it expels all the magnetic fields from within itself, except for weak points where the magnetic field lines are locked inside.
00:56:39.000When the magnet is moved, the superconductor will move as well to keep the magnetism locked in the weak points.
00:56:45.000With a clever layout of magnets, the superconductor can be made to travel around a track.
00:56:50.000The superconductor is first cooled before being placed onto the truck.
00:56:57.000You only need one power in 70,000 to be superconducting, so a small superconductor can hold a huge weight.
00:57:02.000Similar technology is already used in certain magnetically levitated trains.
00:57:07.000But who knows what the future holds for quantum locking?
00:57:09.000Maybe even Marty McFly and his hoverboard will be seen soon.
00:57:14.000So the question then is if they can maintain ultra low temperatures, you could have frictionless motion.
00:57:23.000Well, I guess the question is how much energy do you need to reach that low of a temperature?
00:57:26.000It's probably greater than just driving the car.
00:57:29.000But if we could ever find a way to keep temperatures artificially cooled to an extreme degree that you can quantum lock, then you would need a minimal amount of force to propel a train, like you already mentioned, or vehicles.
00:57:39.000You know, they figured out how to decouple heat from electricity using graphene as a waveguide in last November.
00:58:00.000So, you know, what really gets me about all this alien stuff is just this idea, like as Tim Burchett's pointing out, that aliens are so technologically advanced that we are basically nothing.
00:58:12.000And they've got something as big as two football fields moving 200 miles an hour underwater, and we can't even go 40 in a submarine.
00:58:19.000It's almost like imagining you're on a sailboat seeing a plane for the first time, like you're on an old caravan in the 1500s, and a plane flies by.
00:58:30.000It must be like they're telling us, look, if they just came out and they were like, we have this technology, look, then the Chinese would be like, oh crap, they have the technology.
00:58:38.000If you say it's aliens, the Chinese might actually believe it and then start defending against an alien attack that'll never come.
00:58:43.000So, like, great, great, like, red herring.
00:58:46.000Other than that, I'm just like, yo, be straight up with the tech we have and how dominant of a force we are.
00:59:52.000Corporations, like deep seated military tech corporations that have super advanced quantum AI and stuff that we don't even know exist that are contracted by the government.
01:00:01.000I think our government is so inefficient and so slow that there's just no way.
01:00:28.000I think it's also fair to say that, you know, just because, you know, the U.S. hasn't, just because we saw those weapons doesn't mean that the U.S. doesn't have other things that we're totally unaware of, you know, haven't used yet.
01:00:47.000I'm not going to get into details of how they do it because this story is well known in the public where a guy accidentally or intentionally made one of these things.
01:00:55.000But they can make directional radiation, directed energy weapons.
01:01:00.000They can literally point a weapon at you, and while you're sitting there eating food at a restaurant, blast you with ionizing radiation that will rip your internal organs to shreds.
01:01:19.000That went super viral because of 4chan.
01:01:21.0004chan found a Facebook profile from some woman and she was making an insane amount of posts.
01:01:26.000The posts were all just incoherent rambling.
01:01:29.000Like paragraphs, it would say something like, I went to the gym today, but I forgot my oatmeal spoon and the dog that ran past me was yelping.
01:01:37.000So I went outside to take a look at the rainbow, but the rainbow was actually pointed down and I couldn't actually see the sewer.
01:01:59.000If you're a spy working for a foreign government and you're in a country and you need to communicate with your handlers, you pull up, you need to receive orders, for instance.
01:02:06.000You go to Facebook, you just browse in Facebook, you read a Facebook post.
01:02:11.000How are they going to know that the post that you were serving on Facebook was the message?
01:02:28.000And the conspiracy theory was when they burn a spy, they need to, like, if so, burning a spy is basically we're cutting you off, you're done.
01:02:38.000If they don't want to kill you or killing you could cause an incident, a scene, or draw attention, they induce psychosis with a drug cocktail.
01:02:48.000So they'll break into your house, pin you down, inject you.
01:03:08.000But wouldn't that be exactly how you dispose of a spy that you could not take out?
01:03:13.000If there was an individual that worked in Intel and they said, listen, we can't take this person out because it would cause a scene, people would find out.
01:04:18.000And I guess when he was working that story, he found the MKUltra and instances where, like, U.S. military service members who had clean records throughout their whole lives all of a sudden were found with the psychosis.
01:04:30.000I believe one airman ended up sexually assaulting a young girl, even though he had no criminal history, no recollection.
01:04:36.000And I think it's kind of maybe connected to a little bit of that the whole MKUltra and LSD.
01:04:44.000When there's individuals, like Tim said, where you can't take out because it costs too much of a scene or there's too much connected to that story, this is kind of a way to flip that individual.
01:04:58.000It's one of my favorite conspiracy theories.
01:05:00.000The idea is that the ice wall is a real thing, but the earth isn't flat.
01:05:04.000The earth is actually massive, and the seven continents we know are surrounded by a giant ring of ice where the great nations of Tartaria and Atlantis use us as slave labor to mine gold.
01:05:31.000So we are basically just chickens in a chicken coop doing manual labor and mining gold for the great nations that are immortal, that fly around and can do whatever they want whenever they want.
01:06:02.000From what I noticed when I was stretching, it would feel like when I would go to tear a muscle because I was stretching too far, it would seep into the muscle and fill it like clay.
01:06:11.000And I could stretch super far when I had gold in my system.
01:08:30.000So, anyway, the point, the reason I bring this up is because what reminded me of it is he says after we bleach the flour, we have to add vitamins to it because all the vitamins have been stripped from the earth.
01:08:52.000What he did was he did selective breeding to quadruple crop yield for wheat.
01:08:58.000And what this did was maximize starch production.
01:09:01.000Allowing more people to have access to food, but the amount of nutrients and minerals remained static for the area where the crops were being grown.
01:09:08.000Thus, we now have large populations of nutritionally devoid, morbidly obese people.
01:09:14.000And he's heralded as like a great man who saved billions of lives by creating this crop yield, expanding it.
01:09:19.000But in reality, it just made food worse.
01:09:24.000All the rare earth metals like iridium, rhodium, platinum, palladium, you can eat them because they used to be in the soil pretty, you know, and then the humans mined a lot of it out, so you don't get it.
01:09:36.000You know, the FDA hasn't like come out and been like, you gotta get your colloidal gold, but there's a lot of people that talk about metals.
01:11:28.000Not everything they do is perfect, but that's okay.
01:11:31.000And their members saw this film and voted to purchase it for distribution because it's Animal Farm.
01:11:39.000For those that aren't familiar, I assume most of you are, it's the classic George Orwell novel.
01:11:42.000That is an allegory for the Bolshevik Revolution and how communists are bad.
01:11:46.000The story is wholly just about how communists are bad, and that's about it.
01:11:51.000This film is an anti capitalist film that is actually pro communist, or at least I would call it like pro agenda 2030, pro WEF, the whole stakeholders, you will own nothing and be happy kind of mentality.
01:12:04.000And what happened was when the trailer was released several months ago, it was heavily criticized by everybody, hence this article, because the trailer shows there's a new villain.
01:12:15.000Elon Musk's mom driving a cyber truck.
01:14:17.000It's pro communism entirely, and it's wholly anti capitalism.
01:14:22.000I don't want to spoil any of the movie bits, so I'll keep it for the most part to things you may have seen from the trailer.
01:14:28.000But I will just say this The main villain is Elon Musk's mom, a corporatist, and the motivations behind the bad guys are finance, financially related.
01:14:39.000The exploitation is not communist related, it is monetary and capitalist.
01:14:44.000The struggles the animals face are based on monetary policy and not.
01:15:24.000There's elements of leftist terrorism in it.
01:15:27.000And I would argue that the message is capital structures are inherently bad and you must kill everyone to accomplish your goals of freeing the people from their oppression.
01:15:38.000And I'm like, yeah, that's all just literally Marxist garbage.
01:15:50.000Uh, the farmer, it was sort of like it shows you the danger of capitalism in the very beginning because the farmer has become like this monarch, and they're like, they've had enough, he's mismanaging the farm, they chase him off the farm.
01:16:01.000So, like, okay, we get it, there are problems with capitalism.
01:16:03.000And then the communism starts to seep in the vanguardism, and the whole thing's about the internal struggle of the farm.
01:16:09.000There's very little external force of capital in that.
01:16:12.000Oh, bro, but you started by saying that the farmer is a monarch, he was like the yeah, it's like the capitalist monarch, you know, the corporatist, and it's like, but that's not the beginning of the book, they kick him out right away, yes, but he's not a capitalist.
01:17:09.000And here's what I think happened I think that.
01:17:13.000Hollywood produces an Animal Farm movie with the explicit intention to trick families into bringing their kids into a pro communist film and destroying the message of Animal Farm.
01:17:23.000I believe that this production is so thick, the anti capitalism, like they're hitting you over the head with it.
01:17:35.000There's things, again, I don't want to spoil it because the movie's not out, and I wasn't asked to do a strong review of it.
01:17:39.000I think Hollywood said, how do we make kids communist?
01:17:43.000Well, first, we destroy the culture of America.
01:17:46.000George Orwell was not by any means a strong capitalist, but he did criticize the Bolshevik Revolution and communism masterfully.
01:17:53.000Let's destroy that cultural work, make a film which should supplant the movie.
01:17:58.000I'm sorry, supplant the book, and we'll change the narrative, keeping some of the key story elements, but making it explicitly anti capital instead.
01:18:07.000I think that Angel Studios gets word that Animal Farm is being adapted, and it's got a bunch of A list of celebrities, and they think, Anti communist story right up our alley.
01:18:41.000When they heard that Animal Farm was going to be available, they were like, we have to have this.
01:18:45.000So they bid on it without understanding or seeing the full film.
01:18:49.000Once they acquired it and committed massive amounts of money to the distribution and contractually obligated, then they learned everyone's like, this is pro communism.
01:18:57.000And then they're like, crap, what do we do?
01:19:00.000You got a distribution contract for a big film.
01:19:02.000You're going to lose money if you don't.
01:19:04.000And depending on how the contract is structured, you could be in breach if you don't distribute it properly because you've agreed to do that.
01:19:10.000So I wonder if what actually happened is they know full well, and that's why they reframed it as anti cronyism.
01:19:17.000That's what Angel Studios has been calling it.
01:19:19.000Oh, it's anti cronyism because the capitalist structures are actually not really capitalist.
01:20:06.000And then basically, he private equities the farm.
01:20:09.000So, not spoiling anything, but instead of it being about a communist revolutionary where the dictator takes over to steal everything, this movie is about some people who start a private equity firm.
01:21:06.000And the animals are upset that the pigs are using the excess revenue for.
01:21:11.000They're using the profit to enrich themselves, which I suppose the argument is well, that's what the communists do, but that's not what the film is about.
01:21:18.000The film is literally like, the endos being like, we're doing all the work, but they're taking the profit from us.
01:21:29.000And the ending is basically the fake, the new characters that are added to the movie that are not in the books are basically, they may as well end the film by saying, well, we own nothing, but now we'll all be happy.
01:22:09.000Well, I mean, actually, I do understand it's subversion, which is something that the left loves to do.
01:22:14.000They love to take something that is intended.
01:22:19.000To criticize the left or something that the population of a country holds dear and then subvert it and in some way convince the people that no, actually, this thing that you loved, it's about us.
01:22:33.000And it's something that we, it represents our values and not your own.
01:25:30.000I just, I'm like, I don't think that's appropriate for children.
01:25:33.000There's such a big push on the left of pushing towards this like democratic socialism, which is no different to communism.
01:25:40.000And so there are these, there's money and power that is pushing this communist idea because they know that that's what it eventually leads to.
01:25:48.000They just hope that the child looks too stupid.
01:25:50.000Orwell, was Orwell a democratic socialist?
01:25:51.000He started out as a socialist and then he saw what happened in.
01:25:57.000Road to Wigan Pier, one of the books he followed the coal miners around.
01:27:24.000Just because I didn't like it and I was a Offended by doesn't mean I should take that away from a company that is offering a product to people they can choose to see or not.
01:27:31.000It's, it's, I was not, I was not asked to reveal story elements.
01:27:34.000I was not given a screener so that I could expose what the story is about.
01:27:37.000And I would, I don't want to do that to Angel Studios.
01:27:39.000If people really want to see for themselves and learn, fine.
01:27:41.000If they reached out to me and said, Tim, here's a screener, please give a review of the story, spoilers are fine, then I would do it.
01:27:47.000But I think it's fair to say if a character is not in the film, that is an important point to bring up because people might be going to this film expecting it to be a one for one adaptation of Animal Farm.
01:31:31.000Here's what Newsweek wrote The adaptation, which took 14 years to complete, looks to examine capitalism and corporate greed as opposed to Soviet era authoritarianism.
01:31:42.000A spokesperson for Angel Studios told Newsweek, Four facts Angel is the distributor of the film, not its producer, nor with creative control.
01:31:49.000Angel Guild members viewed the film and voted heavily to support it.
01:31:53.000While the title is the same as the classic book, updates were made to make it relevant to a broad, value centric, family friendly audience.
01:32:00.000This is an anti communism film, and the Angel Guild will ensure that it stands by the principles of our members.
01:32:06.000It is, I would not, it's not for kids, man.
01:32:08.000Guys, like, a family friendly film is Space Jam, where the stakes are you will be trapped in a video game forever unless you win a game of basketball.
01:34:11.000And so he seeks revenge and he rescues his kid.
01:34:13.000There's a famous story about a painting from a revolution where it goes something like I'm probably bastardizing this story.
01:34:20.000Historians probably know better, but it goes something like there was a painting made of a bunch of redcoats in formation firing on a bunch of rebel farmers during the Revolutionary War who were dropping their guns and fleeing.
01:34:33.000And so this painting was of an actual battle that occurred.
01:34:38.000Well, someone asked to recommission the painting and said, I would like one for myself of this battle.
01:35:03.000Now it shows the redcoats are a little frazzled and some are being shot.
01:35:08.000Long story short, after several iterations, it completely flipped to a small handful of valiant minute men firing on frantic and fleeing redcoats, despite it never happening.
01:35:19.000Because every time it was made, the person who got a commission of this great battle wanted it showing the heroism of the Americans.
01:35:27.000So we've made this movie where we're like, Mel Gibson is a dad who doesn't want to go to war and votes against it.
01:37:29.000But it's such a good movie when Cornwallis is like, you're unbefitting of a gentleman.
01:37:33.000It's just like, You know, I love the scene where Mel Gibson meets with Cornwallis and he's like, First thing I'd like to request, what did he say?
01:37:43.000He's like, I'd like to request that you stop firing on my officers.
01:37:47.000And he says, So long as it is the policy of your officers to fire on women and children, I will instruct my men to shoot at officers on first sight.
01:37:54.000And he's like, Oh, and he's all pissed off at the Lord, what's his face?
01:39:36.000I've heard people complain that, I mean, someone in the chat just said this that Angel Studios is a Trojan horse because a lot of, again, this is a comment.
01:39:43.000They said a lot of their films are actually anti conservative values.
01:43:06.000But it's showing all of the best stuff.
01:43:08.000And I do think it's silly because bad stuff happened all the time, you know, like.
01:43:13.000At this point, but these people are obviously romanticizing the nicer areas and things like that.
01:43:19.000But uh, I forgot, I've we pulled this up, and I guess I wanted to just talk about this because you were uh, Ian was just before the segment talking about They Shall Never Grow Old, I think it's called, right?
01:43:32.000And um, the reason why I thought it'd be good to bring up this video that we had pulled up and like talk about all these nostalgia videos uh, the what is it called, the Christmas Truce World War One?
01:44:59.000I mean, white people, but it's only a certain segment of white people, too.
01:45:03.000But I mean, even like you could hear Muhammad Ali making these arguments in the 60s, where he's like, I don't have a problem with white people, but I'd rather be around people like me.
01:45:11.000Well, so now what we see is the data shows that like jury trials, for instance, black juries will acquit.
01:45:18.000Black convicts have extremely high rates.
01:45:20.000White juries tend to be race ambivalent.
01:45:23.000There's very little preference on race when it comes to juries.
01:45:26.000But every other race, I'm saying a lot, just black people, but every race has a pro, like a racial preference for.
01:46:04.000The people that are voting based or like saying, yo, you're my race, therefore innocent, are they like shocked into behaving like just kind of animalistic?
01:46:12.000No, that's just, that's very human nature tribalism.
01:46:26.000I just left Minneapolis, bro, and I covered the rights there for like two weeks.
01:46:30.000So I was surrounded by white liberals all over Minneapolis.
01:46:33.000And one thing that I like to do as a reporter is I just like to act like an MPC and just talk to people because I want to know exactly how they feel and what's motivating them.
01:46:40.000And when I was talking to the white liberals in Minneapolis, like they do view when ICE does an arrest or an apprehension, like they view that as, oh, a Nazi official is kidnapping.
01:46:57.000This is like a white person telling me that.
01:46:59.000And they do feel like they have this moral standing to have to get out there and interfere in operations or anything like that because they feel like they're standing up for their Somali brother or sister.
01:47:10.000Then when you go interview a Somalian, they're not even protesting.
01:49:19.000This is American life for us, and we're preserving that.
01:49:21.000What Ian's basically saying is that there are two groups, and they crashed, and one guy says he got chocolate on my peanut butter, and the other guy says he got peanut butter on my chocolate, but in reality, they both just made a delicious treat.
01:49:57.000And then you see the video of the ice cream?
01:49:59.000The guy put an ice cream sandwich on a plate and then he came back like hours later and it's like, there's drips and it's like, but it's larger.
01:54:12.000So, if we go to, like, a regular grocery store, like a food line, every single cream they have has Gellin gum in it.
01:54:18.000And there are some hypotheses that the increase of gum in our products for thickening agents has resulted in this massive spike in colon cancer in millennials.
01:55:46.000Of all the conspiracy theories people have claimed about how we never went to the moon, I just don't believe any of them until today because this new moon mission can't possibly be real.
01:57:48.000Mitho says, having worked for the government, I can attest it is far too incompetent to have kept this secret for almost 60 years.
01:57:54.000Plus, you would have had to have gotten the Soviets to play along.
01:57:57.000And that's the greatest argument, in my opinion.
01:57:59.000The Soviets would absolutely be coming out being like, they lied and we can prove it.
01:58:04.000In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the anti American commentary claiming the moon stuff is fake is literally foreign influence to destroy Americanism.
01:58:22.000Mythos says Tim, ICBMs were available for a decade before the moon landings.
01:58:26.000I will stress, ICBMs worked by going into the stratosphere and then dropping warheads down.
01:58:32.000If they had a rocket that could go straight up and then come straight down, it would be unable to stop it.
01:58:38.000That's what they did to kill Khamenei.
01:58:41.000They launched a special kind of missile straight up, and then it goes right over the target and comes straight down so it can't be intercepted.
01:58:48.000So, having a rocket that can go to the moon is a nightmare scenario.
01:58:52.000You will have nukes pointed at you every night, and they know it.
01:58:58.000Lava Bear says, I believe the UFO is actually a flying aircraft carrier, just like the one in the Marvel Cinematic Universe proved me wrong.
01:59:37.000First and foremost, if I was a coward, I'd take the money and get paid and have thousands of dollars to buy pizza with and just lie to you and tell you the movie was good.
01:59:47.000Instead, I did probably the stupidest thing any host could do when they're in the business of running ads.
01:59:52.000I attacked, I criticized heavily the advertiser for trying to advertise with us.
01:59:57.000The end result could be companies saying, we don't want to advertise on Tim Pool's show because if it turns out he hates the product, He's going to attack us.
02:00:04.000I don't think so because I thought, first thing I thought was, this is fucking honorable, man.
02:00:08.000This is a really honorable move because you truly believe it and they want to come on and talk about it.
02:00:27.000And I had people asking me, like, why don't you just call them instead of making a public statement?
02:00:31.000And I said, because people are already running ads for this.
02:00:34.000There are conservatives doing ads for a pro communism film right now that is spitting in the face of one of the few anti communist legacy pieces of culture that we have.
02:00:44.000And I've talked to people and they're telling me, well, I don't know.
02:00:47.000They bought ads and I just promoted the film.
02:00:49.000And I'm like, yeah, well, you should have watched it.
02:00:53.000As soon as they said, oh, they want you to do ads for Animal Farm, I was like, what?
02:07:39.000Now, for our other ingredients high fructose corn syrup, oybean oil, monoendiglyceride, calcium peroxide, calcium propronate, and potassium bromate, even though it's banned in Europe, Canada, even China because it's linked to cancer, but we're only gonna add a little bit, so it should be.
02:07:53.000Add a flesh of water, mix, shape, bake, and that's basically your made in the USA bread.
02:07:59.000Send this to a friend who still thinks bread is just flour and water, and let me know would you eat this crap?
02:08:05.000Yes, people eat it all the fucking time.
02:08:12.000I don't want to spoil too much, but I will say a little bit more about the film.
02:08:17.000I mentioned the motivations are banking and finance.
02:08:21.000So, what I will say is that they don't revolt against the farmer, the farmer gets foreclosed on, and the animals have to make money to pay the bank off.
02:08:37.000And so, I don't want to say like a heavy spoiler because this is part of the trailer.
02:08:43.000If you watch the trailer and analyze it, the first opening scene shows the Pilkington and the woman being like, I'm going to make some new friends.
02:08:52.000And like, so I think it's important to bring up for people that want to see an adaptation of Animal Farm.
02:08:59.000They turned one of the characters in the book into a banker.
02:09:03.000And the principal motivation of everything is that they need to make money.
02:09:08.000When they start making money, the pigs start taking the profit for themselves, and the animals are like, Why are they taking the profit from our labor?
02:09:16.000And then the pigs, this is an allegory, right?
02:09:20.000I'm not going to tell you main spoilers again, but effectively, instead of a communist revolution, the pigs form a private equity firm, which they cut a deal with Elon Musk's mom on.
02:09:31.000And the solution to the problem is a terror attack that the good guys foment to say that you will own nothing and you'll be happy.
02:09:53.000The book, I should say, shows flaws in capitalism without being anti-capitalism because it shows a farmer who's very wealthy, who has a farm, whether through inheritance or what.
02:12:53.000He's one for one with the Bolshevik Revolution.
02:12:55.000If you replace Napoleon with Stalin and you squealer with Trotsky and Old Major with Marx, he was literally saying these fucking pigs, Stalin, Lenin, and Marx, they are who I am writing about.
02:13:08.000Jones was representing the royalty, the government, not capitalism.
02:15:42.000Well, the first thing you said was that I always take the extreme, I think it was a bit of a hyperbole, but I do sometimes go the opposite direction to poke holes in my own beliefs.
02:15:53.000If I come across as believing insane shit, I just can't stop and slow down to show my work every step of the way.
02:16:19.000I don't want to speak too much for Tim, but like my view of the future aligns heavily with Tim's when it comes to like property rights, free speech.
02:16:28.000I care more about having the discussion.
02:16:30.000And enabling the discussion than about being right.
02:16:34.000I'm sorry if I hope that answered your question.
02:16:38.000Yeah, we just, there have been, everybody was just kind of curious in the Discord, wondering if it was just an act to help critical thinking, kind of playing devil's advocate, or if this was really the real you.
02:17:06.000He's, like, leading the charge, and I've got to, like, I can't override him and, like, get in the way.
02:17:10.000So, You don't see my true personality on this show a lot of times because I'm playing a function, serving a function.
02:17:17.000I will say, in the brief time I've met you and known you, you have asked questions out of curiosity of the thought process, which I think are questions that you don't necessarily believe.
02:17:28.000You're just curious about how somebody thinks.
02:17:30.000So you go a roundabout way to get there.
02:18:34.000But then, like, when we go to dinner, I don't talk like this at all.
02:18:37.000I mean, I'm just like a normal guy in public pretty much, but when we're getting into it, it might as well go all the way.
02:18:42.000People also assume that, like, That people make the assumption that, like, I don't like Ian, and I think he's like, he's super fun.
02:18:50.000Yeah, so and like, he's got a great heart, but it's super fun to like be here.
02:18:54.000And like, a lot of times, he'll be he'll start going on something, and I'll just be like, Well, why do you think that, you know, and like try and figure out what his thought process is, or I'll be like, You know, this too, and and and what is that, you know, but it's it's so much fun, but it's also fun to have a conversation with people that have a different viewpoint to you and understanding it because so many people can't do it anymore.
02:19:42.000Because that's one of the things that I told, like, in the, in the, The open claw memory thing, you can tell it stuff to remember all the time.
02:21:48.000So, my question is for the entire panel if you want to chime in.
02:21:53.000It's how can I reconcile the Iran stuff to family that won't budge on any nuance whatsoever?
02:22:01.000Because I am like very non interventionist at the core, but I understand nuance with the position.
02:22:08.000And on top of that, there's like people that constantly say, oh, you're falling for propaganda, but I just want to know like what you guys would say to that.
02:22:18.000Look, man, I've got a very, personally, I've got a very Michael Malice opinion on this stuff.
02:22:23.000Like trying to change people's opinion, I don't engage in that anymore.
02:22:29.000Like I'll tell people what I think, I'll tell people what I know, but like if someone's like, no, this is the way it is.
02:22:36.000I do not worry about trying to convince people because most people do not reach their conclusions through logic.
02:22:42.000When you show people evidence that contradicts what they truly believe, they double down.
02:22:46.000This is like, there's been studies and stuff like that.
02:22:49.000Trying to convince people that they're wrong is almost always an exercise in futility.
02:22:56.000There are times where it's happened where someone will see something and be like, holy cow, I was wrong.
02:23:01.000But most of the time, it's an exercise.
02:23:04.000What is the argument they are making to you?
02:23:10.000I'm just saying, like, I want to hear both sides of it, why it might be good, why it might be bad.
02:23:16.000Because, like I said, I'm non interventionist, but I'm not going to sit here and say, okay, now that we're in this war, like, I'm still just going to be like, no, the U.S. is bad.
02:23:26.000We have to not support the U.S. Like, I want to hear the side to say that and give it to them when they're like steel manning it, saying, no, we don't want to, like, we don't want to take part in this, like, whether it's the U.S. or not.
02:23:38.000Like, this is something we need to continue to do.
02:23:51.000I'm not for it, but I'm just saying, like, how can I present that type of viewpoint with a nuance saying that I understand why it's happening?
02:24:00.000I think it's the high level, bigger, what I said earlier.
02:24:02.000It's the high level, bigger picture question of do you want Iran to have.
02:24:06.000Yeah, no, no, no, but I mean, just say what you said.
02:24:09.000I mean, if you agree with your family that we shouldn't be in the war, then you can say, I agree with you guys.
02:24:32.000That's the last five seconds of what you said.
02:24:34.000Can you say that one more time, please?
02:24:36.000No, I was saying I wish it was that simple, like for my case, by saying, like, I totally am with you and I'm for you on this position, but I also see this, but it's just not like that.
02:25:07.000I don't understand what your point is.
02:25:09.000It's like they're anti intervention, but they're saying kind of like this is entirely the U.S.'s fault and we shouldn't have any support behind the U.S. Ask them what they mean and have them elaborate in detail.
02:25:28.000You know, something I'll do is I'll start with the.
02:25:32.000Given that the liberal economic order is the least worst global order humanity's ever seen, and we need to preserve it because of that.
02:25:39.000Update it, yeah, but that means that Americans have to control the Suez Canal.
02:25:44.000That means that this liberal order of money military has to control the sea routes.
02:25:49.000And that's what the Iranian threat has been contention over the sea routes.
02:25:53.000It's not like I want it to happen, it has to happen for the betterment of the species at this point, if that's a truth, that the liberal economic order is the least worst system.
02:26:02.000Unless you have a better system, That you can diagram and implement, which I've yet to see.
02:29:50.000Okay, so for starters, I've been listening to the show since 2019, and Ian is absolutely legendary, and nobody shall ever touch his legacy.
02:31:43.000So my question for the panel is last week, Tim had touched on a few of his segments on the idea that there's a coordinated effort, or there seems to be a coordinated effort of bots to like ostracize or push out anti-establishment voices.
02:32:04.000I'd actually seen one of them, one of the bot posts sort of reposted or shared by a friend of mine.
02:32:36.000But my question is do you think that that sort of like realignment, do you think that that is pushing your moderates, your disaffected liberals, your independents, your libertarians away from the Trump administration?
02:32:54.000Or do you think it's Trump's actions themselves?
02:33:30.000You know, I'd like to believe it's a Pied Piper trap to scrap up all the weirdos and then, you know, Put them in their own little world or whatever, but I can't figure out what the hell's going on.
02:33:42.000I'm funding both sides of the war, the culture war.
02:33:45.000The AI bots are going to be in your comment section trying to get you to think that 80% of your audience likes this topic instead of that topic.
02:33:53.000And then they're positioning people against each other, just like bankers have done over time with military conflicts.
02:33:59.000Likely that's what's happening or part of what's happening.
02:34:04.000I mean, the military industrial complex, I mean, as was warned by Eisenhower, is going to have influence.
02:34:12.000And are going to push things in certain directions.
02:34:14.000And while I certainly, I think largely in line with Tim's opinion that we didn't want this war to happen, maybe there could have been another way to solve the problem, but here we are.
02:34:27.000And it's like, do we just abandon the greatness of America and the ideals that America stands for and call it bad and sort of reject it?
02:34:43.000Or do we go, okay, well, we want this to end well.
02:34:46.000Let's see if we can get a win out of this.
02:34:48.000And yeah, like, you know, that's otherwise it's just nihilism.
02:34:54.000And the people that are saying, like, listen to the Iranian media, what they're lying.
02:34:58.000I'm not saying trust the U.S. government and everything, but come on.
02:35:02.000I have like a real, real mixed feelings, dude, because part of it is like the Israeli government started this conflict and then the Americans jumped in.
02:35:10.000And like, but if they were going to get a nuclear intercontinental ballistic missile, like, appeasement doesn't work.
02:35:18.000And, but like sending in ground troops and blowing up power stations and bridges doesn't work.
02:35:25.000That's not going to get the government to quit.
02:35:26.000They want it, they want to be victimized so that their population will rise up against the Americans.
02:38:48.000But then, you know, Tim mentioning that he got walked down a hallway of magic tricks.
02:38:53.000I feel like that is fairly disingenuous because, like, on the Joe Rogan podcast just this last week, Bob Lazar did another interview.
02:39:03.000I think it's the second or third time on there.
02:39:05.000And I learned that he worked there for about six months before they ended up firing him.
02:39:11.000And so he was going to work every single day there.
02:39:13.000It's not like he was just, you know, Shown this hallway once, and once you get through the haunted house, then you're left with, oh my God, what was that?
02:39:21.000So I might dive into a couple more gripes.
02:39:26.000And what did he say about seeing the little green man?
02:39:57.000Like maybe, maybe like an operating table kind of thing, or maybe like one of those big vats that you see in video games and movies and shit.
02:40:40.000And I'm not talking about the one that Bob Lazar was mentioning, but like the Roswell crash, were they picking up scraps from outside of our solar system?
02:40:49.000Or do you have any thoughts on if, just in general, you think the United States somewhere has a UFO crash?
02:40:59.000I see zero evidence of anything outside of Earth's.
02:41:03.000Solar system zero, but there's evidence that humans have been building anti gravity technology, all sorts of crazy tech, acoustic levitation.
02:41:11.000So, there's a lot of evidence leading towards humans built it, and there's just it's so easy to lie to people.
02:41:18.000So, okay, so that is fair, but also Bob Lazar was in charge of propulsion research in this whole reverse engineering campaign.
02:41:29.000What do you think about the discovery of element 115 that, like, some 20 years later or something like that?
02:42:11.000Turned out they were probably using like magnesium or some metal that, like a nanomaterial that operates differently at the nanomolecular scale or nanoscale than at the classical scale.
02:42:23.000So, because they got him compartmentalized and working, but they will feed him bullshit.
02:42:27.000So, if he goes rogue, he'll tell the world there's a fake alien psyop.
02:42:30.000I could also say, like, I went to a research lab and they were actually doing experimentation on elements that existed beyond our periodic table.
02:42:40.000A whole new subset of stable elements that are substantially heavier.
02:42:46.000And then, of course, because this is a widely held scientific belief that this does exist, in five years, when they announce they've discovered a heavier stable element, then I'll be like, told you.
02:42:54.000Yeah, they're synthesizing heavier elements as time goes on.
02:43:14.000If we find out that it has the same properties or could achieve similar physics to what Bob was stating the 115 that he was working with could do, would that legitimize his story in your eyes?
02:43:31.000Freakishly coincidental, though, because it would perk my claiming that there will be the discovery of an element when you're going in sequential order and then finding an element that has certain properties.
02:43:42.000Like, like I said, I could make up a number right now, and then if they discovered, they'd be like, Wow, yes, like if it was two different things, I could understand that hey, this is just the next one that we found, so we're going to give it 115, even though it's not the same thing that Bob was talking about.
02:43:57.000But if they have the same properties and can be manipulated in the same way that Bob was saying that they could be.
02:46:41.000Anyways, you got anything you want to add or shout out?
02:46:45.000I guess I'll just say that I want to believe.
02:46:48.000And I'll also say that I hope that you guys, I don't know, next time we bring up Bob, let's try and at least stick to the story because some of the things that you guys were saying were completely inaccurate and they rubbed me the wrong way.
02:47:00.000But I appreciate you guys talking about aliens and all the weird shit.
02:47:03.000Red Rover, Red Rover, Bob Lazar is coming over.
02:47:06.000It's a good point because if we're going to criticize something so high profile, we got to get it right.