Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - THEY CAN'T HIDE ANYMORE | Timcast IRL #1440

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00:05:08.000 Let's get into it.

00:05:10.000 All right, guys, coming from NBC News.

00:05:12.000 It looks like Bill and Hillary Clinton agreed to testify in the House Epstein probe ahead of a contempt vote.

00:05:19.000 The Clintons have previously refused to appear before the Republican-led House Oversight Committee.

00:05:24.000 We all know that this is something that Steve Bannon ended up running into.

00:05:28.000 He was held in contempt of Congress for not going along with testifying.

00:05:31.000 The Clintons have been flouting this for a long time.

00:05:33.000 Many people were asking, are they going to live by the same rules?

00:05:36.000 Are they going to face the same consequences?

00:05:38.000 It looks like they are going to blink and testify.

00:05:42.000 Guys, what do we think?

00:05:43.000 I think that they're going to risk perjury over contempt.

00:05:48.000 Because if you look at James Clapper, perjury said they didn't wittingly spy on the American people with the prison program, they did.

00:05:55.000 Nothing's happened to James, or what's his name?

00:05:58.000 What did I say?

00:05:58.000 Not Colin.

00:05:59.000 Clappery.

00:06:00.000 James.

00:06:00.000 Nothing's happened to him yet.

00:06:01.000 So I think they're going to go on the stand and may very well telecrafted lie.

00:06:05.000 I don't know, but I don't know.

00:06:06.000 I think that they're willing to commit perjury at this point, the way that the legal system has been treating.

00:06:10.000 Well, they have a good track record with dodging perjury charges.

00:06:15.000 There's no consequences for the Clintons when they perjure themselves.

00:06:18.000 So, you know, if I was Bill Clinton, I'd be like, perjury, it is.

00:06:22.000 I'm not going to go ahead and try to be in condemnation.

00:06:24.000 You said multiple times.

00:06:25.000 Wait, Adam, let me ask you this.

00:06:26.000 You said the first time you got engaged in politics is when you saw Clinton perjured and then didn't get busted for it.

00:06:32.000 Yep.

00:06:32.000 I was, you know, I was a young guy, like 23 or something like that.

00:06:37.000 And I figured, you know, he perjured himself.

00:06:40.000 I was like, okay, he lied under oath.

00:06:43.000 If anyone else does that, you know, they go to jail.

00:06:46.000 So he's probably going to be removed from office, being young and naive as I was.

00:06:50.000 And then when he wasn't, I was like, what the hell's going on around here?

00:06:54.000 I was like, what, what, what?

00:06:56.000 You know, I couldn't believe it because, again, I was young and naive.

00:06:59.000 And I thought that if he broke the, you know, it was, it was arguably worse than what Nixon did.

00:07:04.000 And now, granted, Nixon wasn't removed from office.

00:07:06.000 He stepped down.

00:07:08.000 But still, I was like, okay, well, this seems cut and dry, you know.

00:07:11.000 Well, Clinton got away with it, I think, largely because the religious right or the Republicans at the time made the mistake of making it about the blowjob and not about the procedure.

00:07:21.000 Like, they made it a moral majority argument, and that actually, I think, fell down as opposed to a legal procedure argument of, hey, committed perjury needs to go to jail.

00:07:30.000 That was the frustrating thing for me is that people were constantly saying, oh, you know, of course he got a blowjob.

00:07:35.000 Oh, you know, powerful guys and Kennedy and blah, blah, blah.

00:07:38.000 And I was like, I was like, why are people even talking about that?

00:07:41.000 That's not what this is about.

00:07:42.000 Like, nobody goes to jail because they got a blowjob.

00:07:45.000 You go to jail because you broke law.

00:07:47.000 And it blew my mind that it was being cast that way.

00:07:50.000 I was like, I can't believe this.

00:07:51.000 You know, again, young and naive.

00:07:52.000 I'm like, what are you talking about?

00:07:53.000 This isn't about a blowjob.

00:07:54.000 He lied.

00:07:55.000 I go to jail if I lied under oath.

00:07:58.000 First, I speak for Hillary when I say, at this point, what difference does it make now?

00:07:58.000 Well, two things.

00:08:03.000 And secondly, I mean, he purged himself because who's going to admit to having, you know, relations with the fat chick? 0.88

00:08:08.000 Right.

00:08:09.000 What was his lie?

00:08:10.000 What was his actual lie on the stand?

00:08:12.000 He lied about whether or not he had relations with that relationship.

00:08:14.000 I did not have sex with that woman. 1.00

00:08:17.000 I will not have sexual relations with that woman, Ms. Lewinsky. 0.99

00:08:21.000 Point it at the American people, point it at the camera. 0.93

00:08:21.000 What is exactly? 0.93

00:08:24.000 What's the house supposed to ask them that they would like?

00:08:27.000 They have very limited information.

00:08:28.000 They'll be like, did you go to, or were you on the Epstein list?

00:08:32.000 Like, yeah.

00:08:33.000 Okay, that's like, what exactly are we just like hoping to get out of this?

00:08:37.000 Well, the process is the key, right?

00:08:39.000 Because obviously we know the photos are out there.

00:08:41.000 We know his name is mentioned.

00:08:43.000 The question is, how bad can you make him look?

00:08:45.000 How much can you drag him through that?

00:08:47.000 How many places can you lead him where he might further indict himself or create some kind of problem?

00:08:53.000 I don't think there's probably going to be a lot of there there.

00:08:55.000 I think most of the revelations are already in the Epstein files, but putting him through that, making him go through that process is itself a punishment.

00:09:04.000 We learned this from the Trump administration, right?

00:09:07.000 It's not always what you're going to get.

00:09:08.000 Once you put people under oath and you put them up in front of Congress, they might come out and say things that are going to just bury them politically.

00:09:15.000 And that's ultimately what a lot of people are looking for.

00:09:18.000 Maybe not the most, I guess, upstanding way to conduct yourself, but it is ultimately the way American politics works.

00:09:24.000 This is going to be bread and circuses at the end of it.

00:09:26.000 I mean, nothing will come of this.

00:09:28.000 It's not going to come of it, but it is the bread and circuses we're asking for.

00:09:31.000 We've been asking for high-profile people to be brought into court and have to testify for the things they may or may not have done.

00:09:36.000 So I think at the end of it, I think people will look at this and say, we are doing something.

00:09:40.000 And I think that's good going into the midterms.

00:09:42.000 It's a great way to call it a bread and circus because as I'm scrolling, like with the economy, what's happened with silver went up four times and then got 30% dropped.

00:09:51.000 All these people, they took people for a run.

00:09:52.000 Crypto dropped by 10, 15%.

00:09:55.000 Like this is the bread and circus is the Clinton, is the Epstein stuff. 0.80

00:09:59.000 That's what they want people to focus on and fight about when in the background they're like changing our economy into a crypto control state, it feels like behind us.

00:10:08.000 It's another conversation completely, but I do sense that.

00:10:12.000 There's some truth where like the entire Epstein thing, it hit a point, kind of like Pizzagate, where like when it first happened, you're kind of following it and you're like, yeah, yeah, that actually does make there might be something here.

00:10:21.000 And then there was, I remember it just hit a certain point where it was like just all the insane people flooded in and then it just became like completely untouchable.

00:10:28.000 This is kind of what's happening with the Epstein stuff now is it's gotten to the point where it's gotten so mainstream, it's turned into something that it never was, where now it's starting to become a toxic thing.

00:10:37.000 And it's going to make it more difficult to actually get any justice out of this because it's just been flooded with the retard right, for lack of better word. 1.00

00:10:44.000 And in addition, it's just, people are expecting different things as a result of like this entire investigation.

00:10:50.000 Well, it's just going to clog everything up.

00:10:51.000 And there's tons of confirmation bias, right?

00:10:54.000 Whether or not there's anything that's actually actionable in there, people see a name, they're like, see, this name's in the Epstein file.

00:11:00.000 So of course that means that they were doing this thing.

00:11:03.000 And it's just turned into just a slop vest of people pointing fingers.

00:11:07.000 Of course, there are things that people should be prosecuted for.

00:11:10.000 I'm not making the argument that there aren't, but whether or not people have broken the law is irrelevant to most of the people that want to use this as a club on X to be like, this person was in the Epstein files.

00:11:23.000 So of course, blah, blah, blah.

00:11:25.000 There are people, again, like I said, there are people that broken the law.

00:11:28.000 They should be investigated.

00:11:29.000 They should be arrested.

00:11:31.000 If they're alleged to have broken the law, they should see the full extent of justice.

00:11:36.000 But there's a online phenomenon of saying, look, they're in the Epstein file.

00:11:41.000 And I found this and blah, blah, blah.

00:11:42.000 And it's just a slew of just an orgy of confirmation bias where people are pointing fingers and saying, your guy's bad.

00:11:49.000 Your guy's bad.

00:11:50.000 Your guy's bad.

00:11:50.000 Or you know this guy or whatever.

00:11:52.000 You know, any kind of tenuous connection they're going to use to say this person did this.

00:11:56.000 And it's just turned into something where you can't really find any clarity.

00:12:00.000 I'm glad you changed your description from a slew to an orgy.

00:12:04.000 You're saying, Orange.

00:12:05.000 Well, I was just going to say, this is the nature of news cycles.

00:12:08.000 You know, when you had the Epstein files as a story out there that was unclear, you could build the conspiracy.

00:12:16.000 And there was a real conspiracy.

00:12:18.000 Like, obviously, these files were bad.

00:12:20.000 Our elites did not want us to have access to them.

00:12:22.000 They were embarrassed about what went on there and they didn't want those out.

00:12:25.000 But it was really what you could project onto this, what I think is built a lot of hype and interest into it.

00:12:31.000 Once it's out there in the open, once we actually have the files, that's actually less exciting because you can no longer just speculate about what's being hidden and what forces are working against you and who's hiding documents.

00:12:43.000 Now you have to actually sift through everything.

00:12:45.000 You need to verify.

00:12:46.000 You need to fact check.

00:12:47.000 A lot of this is going to fall away because it's unprovable or it was just salacious, but ultimately didn't go anywhere.

00:12:53.000 We are, I think, ultimately going to get facts that are important.

00:12:56.000 I think this really still matters, but I think the hype cycle with this is done.

00:13:00.000 Now it's more the drudgery of investigation.

00:13:03.000 Maybe something more will come out.

00:13:04.000 But I think Adam's ultimately right that what really matters is we're putting bad people in front of Congress, in front of questioning.

00:13:13.000 That's what people wanted.

00:13:14.000 That's what people especially want to see from the Trump administration.

00:13:17.000 He's supposed to be this guy from outside the swamp.

00:13:19.000 He's crushing the elites.

00:13:20.000 He's breaking through the institutional barriers that exist in Washington.

00:13:24.000 They wanted to see him make the elites pay.

00:13:27.000 And the fact that he did not do that initially with the Epstein files, I think, was a lot of what people felt betrayal about.

00:13:34.000 So getting this done, getting elites in front of cameras, in front of questions, I think that's what matters to people more than the actual content.

00:13:42.000 And I'm not saying the content doesn't matter, but I think that's ultimately what's going to be cathartic for people through this process.

00:13:47.000 Well, we need this.

00:13:48.000 In 16, one of the great takeaways from the debates was Trump telling Hillary Clinton, because you'd be in prison.

00:13:54.000 You remember this, right?

00:13:55.000 And we all got riled up and said, man, that was the moment when I knew I was voting for Trump.

00:13:59.000 And then we had the 16 through 20 administration.

00:14:01.000 Hillary didn't go to prison. 1.00

00:14:02.000 And I think a lot of people were hesitant to vote for him again because they saw the first administration not actually carry the water and carry the weight of the things that they said they were going to do.

00:14:12.000 I think this administration has the ability and the time to get it done.

00:14:16.000 We're less that he airway from midterms.

00:14:17.000 And I've always held the belief that the reason we haven't seen sweeping arrests yet is because, one, when you go to start arresting people, it's all hell is going to break loose.

00:14:26.000 And to organize that without leaks, because people will flee the country.

00:14:28.000 They have dual citizenship.

00:14:30.000 They will go.

00:14:30.000 You need to be very precise.

00:14:32.000 And for optics' sake, if you arrest someone at a high-profile level, you have to find juries that will indict judges that will take the case, not throw them out.

00:14:32.000 You can't have leaks.

00:14:40.000 A lot of these things that we saw two people indicted, right?

00:14:42.000 It was Comey and Comey and someone else that charges got Letitia James. 1.00

00:14:47.000 Yeah.

00:14:47.000 So it's gone, right?

00:14:49.000 I think for midterms, you have to have good optics.

00:14:50.000 You have to have energized people.

00:14:52.000 I think you wait to prosecute these people closer to midterms because you need to energize your party movement.

00:14:56.000 I think it's also very clear at this point that the Clintons aren't going to jail.

00:15:00.000 Like they're just not going to put an old man in jail at this point, no matter how much he deserves it. 1.00

00:15:05.000 So really, it is about the truth and reconciliation.

00:15:09.000 It is getting him up there, getting to the bottom of this.

00:15:12.000 Is there anyone else connected?

00:15:13.000 Is there a wider conspiracy we need to understand, a wider network?

00:15:17.000 I think that's the kind of stuff that you're going to be driving at with the Clintons.

00:15:20.000 I don't think they're actually going to be looking to pursue a particular criminal case against them or try to drive deeper into getting these guys in jail.

00:15:29.000 Those optics aren't great for you at this point.

00:15:32.000 There was a time when putting Hillary Clinton in the jail was dynamic. 1.00

00:15:35.000 Like you're saying, the locker up chance mattered.

00:15:38.000 I think at this point, people have kind of moved on.

00:15:40.000 And you can't, you know, this is the upside and the downside of Biden stepping in there.

00:15:44.000 Biden is just simply not as nefarious a creature as Hillary Clinton, right?

00:15:49.000 Like he's just too, like I'm sure he's a bad person, but he's just too checked out.

00:15:55.000 He's completely unable to function mentally.

00:15:58.000 You can only really feel like you can hold him accountable for his actions for so long because of how senile he is.

00:16:05.000 And so people aren't there chanting, put Joe in jail.

00:16:07.000 It's like, you know, put Joe in the nursing home, right?

00:16:09.000 Like at this point.

00:16:11.000 And so he's not the person that their ire is really directed at.

00:16:14.000 You don't have that easy target to put away.

00:16:16.000 I mean, someone like Anthony Fauci would be far more relevant at this point.

00:16:20.000 So I just don't think the Clintons create that target that satiates the desire for people to have a nefarious character put behind bars, but they could lead us towards someone that is worthy of that.

00:16:32.000 I do think, yeah, I think this is going to turn into, you're saying, Brett and Circus, maybe adding just a circus.

00:16:38.000 Because I mean, one thing you have to consider is, I mean, the House Judiciary Committee on the Republican side, it's Jim Jordan's on there.

00:16:45.000 Thomas Massey's on there.

00:16:46.000 Like you're going to get some like insane soundbites coming out of this.

00:16:49.000 It's going to get chippy.

00:16:50.000 All these, especially these new congressmen, they're going to be looking for their moment, so to speak.

00:16:55.000 And so they're going to be unleashing just some craziness on Bill.

00:16:57.000 And that's going to be actually a problem.

00:16:58.000 I think Bill's going to be ready for that sort of thing.

00:17:00.000 He's going to be able to counter it.

00:17:02.000 I'm not.

00:17:03.000 I'm not terribly optimistic about this whatsoever.

00:17:06.000 I don't think we're going to get the slam dunk that we think we're going to get.

00:17:08.000 No, but I mean, even if they put the Clintons, even if they put the Clintons in jail, that's not going to move the needle for actual policy in the United States.

00:17:17.000 It's not going to change, you know, the nature of government because they're out of the, you know, they're out of government.

00:17:24.000 They're just, you know, old people that have been put out the pasture. 1.00

00:17:27.000 So I'd be perfectly fine with them going to jail because I'm sure that, you know, Clinton and they both have broke plenty of laws, but it wouldn't change the forecast for the midterms.

00:17:40.000 It wouldn't change the forecast for the next presidential election.

00:17:44.000 And so at the end of the day, it doesn't change the circumstances for the right in the United States.

00:17:49.000 And the important thing is the right winning because that's how we save the country from what the left is doing.

00:17:56.000 I'd be much happier to see Tim Walz and Ilan Omar in prison.

00:17:59.000 That's right.

00:18:01.000 That's actually where we're at.

00:18:02.000 They're robbing the coffers from my grandchildren.

00:18:04.000 Like as we speak, and a lot of people are calling for Insurrection Act, these things like this.

00:18:09.000 I think stay focused.

00:18:10.000 Keep doing audits.

00:18:10.000 Go to California next.

00:18:11.000 Go to Ohio.

00:18:12.000 You start tearing open the books and you show where these people are actually robbing our country and bringing in these migrants who are ruining our culture. 1.00

00:18:19.000 I think you focus on that.

00:18:20.000 You stay the course.

00:18:21.000 You stay the mission.

00:18:22.000 That's where like an actual probe would be quite interesting.

00:18:24.000 Drag some people in and be asking like, what did you think, Tim Waltz, how did Somalis actually benefit Minneapolis?

00:18:30.000 Do you have any data to present us?

00:18:31.000 Do you have anything to back this up whatsoever?

00:18:33.000 Just those simple questions would completely, I think, pay long-term dividends for the right.

00:18:38.000 Yes.

00:18:39.000 Putting it all on display.

00:18:40.000 I think you're both correct because ultimately we're in this scenario where we only have so much political capital.

00:18:45.000 You have to choose your targets carefully.

00:18:47.000 And ultimately, again, I think people do care about the Epstein files.

00:18:50.000 But as you say, moving into midterms, looking at the situation in the country would much rather see Democratic criminals currently being held accountable rather than trying to reach back 8, 12, 15 years to try to figure out and re-litigate how these people conducted themselves.

00:19:06.000 Even though the justice is critical, it really is about optics.

00:19:10.000 It really is about expending political capital.

00:19:12.000 And when you're in that scenario, you have to have a laser focus.

00:19:15.000 And again, as you guys were saying, someone like Tim Walz going to jail would just be far more important, far more critical.

00:19:21.000 And it would actually show that the Trump administration isn't just looking back, hoping to pull some skeletons out of closets, but is actively looking at Democrats today as political enemies who are hurting the country and is willing to step in and stop them and hold them accountable.

00:19:35.000 Yeah, you settle scores after you win, but it's like you've got to be in a position where you can actually settle scores.

00:19:39.000 We're not there yet.

00:19:40.000 I know it's been a few years, but they rounded up 1,600 of us and put most of us in prison for walking through a building peacefully.

00:19:46.000 They are our enemy.

00:19:47.000 They mean to kill us and imprison us, and we need to stay focused.

00:19:51.000 They're willing to shoot a president.

00:19:53.000 They're willing to shoot, you know, Charlie Kirk.

00:19:56.000 They're not playing nice.

00:19:57.000 And we really need to stay focused and not get so distracted by things.

00:20:00.000 And I mean, the Epstein files, they matter.

00:20:02.000 They absolutely do.

00:20:03.000 I'll get hate for this, but our focus should be we don't have a lot of time left.

00:20:07.000 We have maybe a year before they win midterms and they kneecap the rest of the administration and make us lame duck. 0.94

00:20:13.000 We can't pass things in Congress, can't pass things in the Senate.

00:20:15.000 We need to stay focused.

00:20:16.000 And to your point, like the, I've said this before, like they're not going to just go after people that are big names.

00:20:22.000 They're not going to just go after Donald Trump.

00:20:23.000 They're not going to just go after, you know, people that are, you know, influential on the right because those people are the people that normal people expect to get wrapped up.

00:20:33.000 When the guy down the street that did a little bit of canvassing for the Republicans goes to jail, then everybody that knows him is like, oh, I could be on the chopping block.

00:20:42.000 And that cools people's desire to be politically active in the future.

00:20:46.000 So they'll go after the big fish.

00:20:47.000 Sure.

00:20:48.000 They'll go after Donald Trump.

00:20:49.000 That's definitely going to happen.

00:20:50.000 But they'll also go after the small fish because if they get enough small fish and they're easier to get too, if you get some dude that's just in the GOP or whatever, that's like, you know, at a state level or even a town level, if those people go to jail, it doesn't cost them a lot of money.

00:21:04.000 They don't have a lot of money to defend themselves the way that, you know, bigger names do.

00:21:09.000 If you go after people that are, you know, average Joes, they're easier to put in jail and it does a whole lot more to cool off people's interest in being politically active. 1.00

00:21:17.000 You have more of your average people that are just like, I want to keep my head down.

00:21:20.000 I don't want to get in trouble.

00:21:22.000 I don't want them to, you know, I don't want the eye of Sauron to be put on me.

00:21:25.000 You know, so it's really important that we win in November and it's really important that we win in 2028 because it's not just the big names.

00:21:34.000 It's not just the people that you see on podcasts.

00:21:36.000 It's going to be people that you know, just like Adam said, you know, 1,600 people that were just at the Capitol and they didn't do anything particularly bad.

00:21:46.000 They were walking through.

00:21:47.000 They put a lot of people in jail.

00:21:49.000 And the reason they did that was to intimidate the right.

00:21:52.000 They're going to go even harder should the left win again.

00:21:55.000 They freaking intimidated everybody, like people on the left who are like, I better bow down to my servant master even harder because I see they're serious now.

00:22:03.000 It's crazy.

00:22:04.000 No, the left cheered them on.

00:22:05.000 The left cheered them on when they did this.

00:22:06.000 They actually formed groups.

00:22:07.000 The FBI paid, I think it was the Zishners, $100,000 to source out and find anyone who was there that day. 1.00

00:22:13.000 Like they cheered it on.

00:22:14.000 So I don't think the left necessarily were afraid.

00:22:17.000 I think they were like, oh, we're in power.

00:22:18.000 We're now taking power.

00:22:19.000 And we really need to have that type of mentality.

00:22:21.000 We're in power now.

00:22:22.000 We need to wield that power and make sure we crush the communists for the foreseeable future and never let them rise again.

00:22:28.000 That's our energy.

00:22:29.000 That's where we need to be.

00:22:30.000 Knowing what you know now, having been arrested for being at the Capitol, served three months in prison, basically, literally.

00:22:35.000 And I assume that had some sort of radicalization effect on your brain.

00:22:39.000 Like I'm never like you've changed, you're running for office now.

00:22:41.000 Like you've changed, you're like outspoken now on the on the internet, on TV.

00:22:45.000 But like knowing what you know about innocent people getting targeted or people that did very little and getting big sentences, how would you go forward against, like you said, the communist attempted communist revolution?

00:22:55.000 Like how would you deal with that in an attempt to not radicalize those people the way that some of these people of J6 were? 1.00

00:23:01.000 Well, I don't think some of these people are people are salvageable or savable.

00:23:06.000 I think that these, look, we're at war, whether you want to admit it, whether you want to accept it.

00:23:11.000 We are at war with these people.

00:23:12.000 These people have no desire to live in the country as it exists.

00:23:15.000 They don't want to be here.

00:23:16.000 They don't want to live next to us.

00:23:17.000 They don't want to be our neighbors.

00:23:18.000 There was a survey that was done.

00:23:20.000 I think it was by, was he there?

00:23:22.000 I think it was Ras Musin, where they asked people during COVID, you know, what should we do with people who are refusing to take the vaccine?

00:23:28.000 I think it was 29% of them said that my children should be removed from my custody for not vaccinating them.

00:23:34.000 We're talking about almost 30% of our neighbors who said, I want to take their children from them.

00:23:40.000 That's who they are.

00:23:41.000 They're not hiding from it.

00:23:42.000 They're not shying away from it.

00:23:43.000 So we need to wake up and realize who these people are.

00:23:45.000 Will stop at nothing to crush and kill us.

00:23:48.000 Adam, I feel like I've said this a thousand times, but I just get more and more manic every time I say it because it seems like people are not listening.

00:23:56.000 How am I still having to explain to people at this point that that's where we are?

00:24:01.000 Every time it's oh, Trump might take some kind of action, we might use some kind of power.

00:24:05.000 It's well, what if the Democrats get back in charge?

00:24:07.000 Like, how are we still doing that argument?

00:24:10.000 They've already done it.

00:24:11.000 It's absolutely nuts.

00:24:13.000 It's like you guys understand that you can just never let the left come back into power again.

00:24:17.000 That is the only answer.

00:24:18.000 The minute they are back in power, they will arrest everybody.

00:24:22.000 And they don't have your morals, they don't have your scruples, they don't have your principles.

00:24:25.000 None of this will stop them because they also don't have activist judges sitting there waiting to sabotage them.

00:24:30.000 They will have the full power of the government, they will run through you entirely.

00:24:33.000 It's ridiculous to me that we still have to make this argument.

00:24:36.000 I don't understand how people don't grasp it.

00:24:38.000 On Friday, we talked to we had Cam Higbee on, and Lisa was here, and we were talking about Don Lemon being arrested.

00:24:44.000 And they both were kind of squishy on it because they're like, Well, you know, I don't want them to arrest, you know, me or you know, Cam was saying that.

00:24:52.000 It's like, guys, like you're not going to be able to say, Oh, we don't want to set the precedent because the precedent has already been set.

00:25:00.000 Like, the left will do this, they've already done this.

00:25:03.000 When they get back into power, they're going to do it again.

00:25:06.000 So, I understand that you know, you care about the First Amendment and you have, you know, you care about the freedom of press and you have principles and stuff.

00:25:13.000 They don't.

00:25:14.000 So, to behave as if they do, or to say that any exercise of power that the right does is going to give permission to the left.

00:25:23.000 That's just wrong.

00:25:24.000 They're going to do it regardless.

00:25:26.000 Yeah, like it's going to be like 2030 and we're all facing the wall.

00:25:28.000 And I look up at Orr and I was like, Man, we should have left Don Lemon alone.

00:25:33.000 It truly is just incredible.

00:25:35.000 Like, the things that divide us are now greater than the things that unite us.

00:25:39.000 And I know that's not comfortable.

00:25:41.000 I know that's like a really difficult thing to acknowledge, but it's deadly to ignore it.

00:25:46.000 Like, you don't get any bonus brownie points for denying reality right before the guillotine drops.

00:25:51.000 It's coming for you either way.

00:25:52.000 And again, I just think it's insane.

00:25:54.000 And we can see that in our next story here from Alpha News.

00:25:58.000 It looks like anti-ICE agitators set up blockades on the Minneapolis streets.

00:26:03.000 They're checking people's driver's licenses and their plates to put them through a database.

00:26:07.000 They want to see if you're somebody who's related to ICE, if they're someone that they can ultimately attack.

00:26:12.000 You've got to see the checkpoints here, the little autonomous zones.

00:26:16.000 I appreciate the recliner being used.

00:26:18.000 They should do the same thing at polling locations. 0.80

00:26:21.000 Well, they were just trying to block ICE to get anywhere near polling locations.

00:26:25.000 I wonder what that means, right?

00:26:27.000 Like, I wonder what that implies.

00:26:28.000 They should send an MRAP through that thing. 0.99

00:26:30.000 Just knock it down.

00:26:31.000 The idea that this is acceptable is ridiculous.

00:26:35.000 You mean the feds or the local state police force?

00:26:39.000 I think the feds should.

00:26:40.000 Like, if these people are setting up checkpoints and making people stop, that's completely and totally outside of the realm of acceptable.

00:26:49.000 Like, the feds should go in there and take this down and throw the. 1.00

00:26:53.000 They're doing essentially this is piracy, right?

00:26:55.000 They're saying you can't come in here.

00:26:57.000 They're charging tolls or what have you.

00:26:59.000 Like, they should all be arrested and tossed into.

00:27:03.000 We're going to roll some of this footage.

00:27:04.000 Yeah, it looks like we got some footage here.

00:27:08.000 Give it to me, Search.

00:27:09.000 You're kidding or sorry, dude?

00:27:10.000 You're in your fucking car.

00:27:12.000 You're in the fucking car, man.

00:27:21.000 Is that Tim Walton?

00:27:22.000 So they're assaulting me and my photojournalist.

00:27:22.000 I see a limp.

00:27:26.000 Got it all on video.

00:27:28.000 They actually tried to steal my phone, but unsuccessful.

00:27:32.000 And you're gonna get blasted all over the internet, buddy.

00:27:34.000 You're kidding us all.

00:27:37.000 But yeah, I mean, look, these guys are intimidating people.

00:27:42.000 They're telling you you can't go this way.

00:27:44.000 You can't get out and film.

00:27:45.000 Like, these people should all be arrested.

00:27:47.000 That is notoriously like the edited video where what happened right before he was like, can't assault me, bro.

00:27:53.000 Like, very intentionally edited right to the point where he got grabbed.

00:27:56.000 Like, what did he do before for that guy to grab him in his car?

00:27:59.000 I want to know.

00:28:00.000 Tried to get out of the car.

00:28:01.000 I don't know what happened.

00:28:02.000 It was edited.

00:28:03.000 But that's the beauty of it, right?

00:28:04.000 Is we have had to hear about how unprofessional ICE is, how it's a bunch of thugs, and the Trump administration is just turning them loose, and how important it is that we have accountability for law enforcement.

00:28:14.000 But here we see that actually, nope, just completely unaccountable, untrained, you know, guys with no authority are getting out there and doing this.

00:28:21.000 Of course, it's going to create an incident.

00:28:23.000 We all remember the last autonomous zone, right?

00:28:25.000 Multiple kids ended up dead.

00:28:27.000 We had a warlord within a few hours.

00:28:29.000 Like, that's what happens when you actually suspend the rule of law.

00:28:32.000 Why is the left so obsessed with turning every place they control into a lawless, violent warlord war zone?

00:28:39.000 Like, it's absolutely insane.

00:28:41.000 What happened with Chaz Chop anyway?

00:28:43.000 Like, how did that come apart?

00:28:44.000 A bunch of people got killed.

00:28:45.000 And then did the local cops break it up?

00:28:47.000 I'm not 100% sure.

00:28:49.000 I think they dismantled it because they ran out of food because in a communist society, someone has to work.

00:28:54.000 Well, they kept trying to plant it on top of the plastic bags.

00:28:56.000 You remember them like just dumping piles of bags of joy from Home Depot and then being like, yeah, yeah, I'll just grow some crops here.

00:29:04.000 Yeah, literally, yeah, they literally sat cardboard out and poured soil and like seeds from Home Depot.

00:29:08.000 Yeah, and then like three days went by and they're like, guys, this is, we didn't pick this out.

00:29:12.000 Some dude on LSD was like dancing on it the day after he was, it was yeah, there was like a like a local SoundCloud rapper that became like a warlord.

00:29:20.000 He was just like executing people.

00:29:21.000 I was like, what is going on?

00:29:22.000 You think at the very least they went and inserted like a gardening manual in the communist manifesto?

00:29:27.000 Like chapter two, like just saying what you're in there.

00:29:29.000 How to make food, a guide for communists. 0.66

00:29:32.000 You know, I kind of like that.

00:29:33.000 I kind of like the idea of maybe every town does have like a small chop just in the middle.

00:29:37.000 So it's like if you really are like a communist or something, you know, you can kind of just hang out there and then the warlord will sort things out after a while.

00:29:44.000 It's kind of a beautiful thing when you really think about it.

00:29:46.000 I read the communist manifesto.

00:29:48.000 The first four chapters were about lowering the age of consent.

00:29:51.000 So like libertarians, but with the ability, without the ability to grow food.

00:29:56.000 Yes.

00:29:57.000 Fantastic.

00:29:58.000 Well, it also looks like the Minnesota activists have put up a flag here.

00:30:04.000 They're trying to recreate the famous U.S. Marines at Iwo Jima scene.

00:30:09.000 And of course, we all know that the Minnesota flag has a striking resemblance to the Somali flag because the Somalis conquered Minnesota and made them change their flag. 0.65

00:30:17.000 So what we're seeing here is basically a declaration that they have conquered Minnesota, that the leftists now not only own the streets, but they own the entire state.

00:30:25.000 You know, a lot of people will say, oh, it's just a flag.

00:30:27.000 It's just a piece of cloth.

00:30:29.000 It's just, you know, a recreation, a ritual.

00:30:31.000 But I hope by now we understand that flags matter, that cloth matters, that ritual actually matters more than rhetoric.

00:30:38.000 And when we allow something like this to happen, when we allow people to take these actions, it's making a clear declaration that we are giving up sovereignty, that we are handing control up to foreign powers.

00:30:48.000 And this simply should not be allowed in the United States.

00:30:51.000 It's amazing that we continue to really allow any of this.

00:30:54.000 Yeah, flags do matter.

00:30:55.000 I know it's not Pride Month, but wait, what did you say?

00:31:00.000 I think about that, like wearing shirts with words on them.

00:31:03.000 I'm like, dude, I don't even like, what does this read?

00:31:06.000 What am I, like, what am I promoting right now?

00:31:09.000 That's a good way to put it, that it's more powerful than rhetoric, like imagery, promoting imagery, especially with the internet and the ability to splash that visual all over the place.

00:31:18.000 That's why you wear blanks.

00:31:19.000 You got to get paid for promotion.

00:31:21.000 You know, like you see these, but you see, like, was it Ronaldo came up and there was like cokes on the, on the, on the table, and he took them off because he's like, oh, I'll kill you.

00:31:29.000 I'm not getting paid to advertise this.

00:31:30.000 So it's like, same thing.

00:31:31.000 We should be getting paid.

00:31:32.000 If you're going to wear a brand on your name, you're going to get paid.

00:31:34.000 This was Somalia.

00:31:35.000 Yeah, this is terrible news.

00:31:37.000 It's mocking Marines.

00:31:37.000 This is terrible.

00:31:39.000 And it's the most Reddit thing ever to think you could emulate the Iwo Jima by what?

00:31:43.000 You just like sat on the streets long enough and the police didn't bother cracking down like that's conquering somehow.

00:31:48.000 And they tend to represent, they tend to do this a lot.

00:31:50.000 They do the whole like, you know, we're the same guys that were storming Normandy, you know, fighting the Nazis.

00:31:55.000 And now we're the guys that are, you know, that beat the Japanese at Iwo Jima.

00:32:00.000 It's like brilliant.

00:32:01.000 Yeah, dude, explain bisexuality to a 90-year-old and see what happens.

00:32:03.000 Dude, that battle for Iwo Jima was horrific.

00:32:06.000 I don't know if you guys are much studied on the flame.

00:32:09.000 They used flamethrowers on the beach, just melting people.

00:32:11.000 Like it was horrible.

00:32:13.000 Trying to climb up that sandy mountain.

00:32:14.000 Flamethrowers were for the pillboxes. 0.73

00:32:16.000 Yeah, they'd get up there and like the dude, and then they'd get hit, the flamethrower get hit, and they'd explode in flame.

00:32:21.000 They're like, God!

00:32:21.000 It was just to mock it like that is really desensitized.

00:32:25.000 Well, and the UK just got done with this big showdown over flags.

00:32:28.000 I don't know if you guys were paying attention, but they were battling over whether or not the St. George's Cross or the Union Jack should be displayed.

00:32:34.000 And it was being swapped out with Pakistani flags and everything.

00:32:38.000 And, you know, again, people will say, oh, this is tiny stuff.

00:32:40.000 It doesn't matter.

00:32:41.000 It's just some guy taking down a flag or raising it somewhere.

00:32:44.000 No, again, this is a symbol of conquest, especially in the UK context where these people are literally raping the daughters of the English.

00:32:51.000 Like, what does a conquering army do?

00:32:53.000 It sends military young men into your area.

00:32:57.000 They take control of the streets.

00:32:59.000 They rape your daughters and they raise their flag in conquest. 0.99

00:33:02.000 We should see this as the step down this road.

00:33:05.000 We should recognize that we are in no way immune to the things that happened in the UK.

00:33:09.000 When you let this kind of stuff happen, when you let this be permitted, the leftists are only going to exercise more and more power.

00:33:15.000 I think we've got another clip of somebody here stopping plates as they come in.

00:33:23.000 yeah he's just our uh somalian uber driver man let's scrub it a little bit All right, how's it going?

00:33:39.000 You said his license plates are ice?

00:33:41.000 Doing good, yeah.

00:33:42.000 I was just saying, it looks like in our system, your place came up as an ice plate.

00:33:48.000 That doesn't seem like it's the case, but I just wanted to come through and see what was up and talk to you, see how you're doing.

00:33:57.000 Okay, I figure, yeah.

00:34:00.000 I mean, he's clearly Somali.

00:34:02.000 Yeah, totally, totally.

00:34:03.000 Like, masks for them, but not us, right?

00:34:05.000 He's clearly Somali.

00:34:06.000 Let him go.

00:34:09.000 What's your name?

00:34:11.000 Ali.

00:34:12.000 Ellie.

00:34:13.000 How long have you guys been out here today?

00:34:17.000 He doesn't have to speak.

00:34:18.000 Look at that mask.

00:34:18.000 Look at that.

00:34:19.000 Oh, he is, bro.

00:34:21.000 And do you want to ask, what's the system you guys are using?

00:34:23.000 We just measure the size of the forehead.

00:34:25.000 Obviously, that was wrong, right?

00:34:26.000 I mean, the guy was just a Somalian Uber driver.

00:34:29.000 You know, they're renting a lot of cars.

00:34:31.000 But yeah, you know, we'll take this off the list.

00:34:34.000 Yeah.

00:34:35.000 You'll totally take it off the list.

00:34:37.000 We're honestly just from California.

00:34:38.000 Just independent photojournalists.

00:34:42.000 Jorge Ventura.

00:34:43.000 This one Jorge Ventura.

00:34:44.000 All right.

00:34:45.000 All right.

00:34:45.000 Cool.

00:34:45.000 Thank you.

00:34:46.000 How long has it been set up?

00:34:47.000 And like, you know, the images of this are going viral online.

00:34:50.000 That's how we came.

00:34:51.000 I don't know if you know if they're going viral.

00:34:52.000 Yeah, no, I heard that.

00:34:54.000 You know, people are people saying that.

00:34:57.000 And, you know, a lot of the neighbors support what we're doing.

00:34:59.000 So happy to be here.

00:35:01.000 Has local law enforcement said anything?

00:35:03.000 Not that we know of.

00:35:04.000 No.

00:35:05.000 But look, I got to get back to this.

00:35:07.000 I'm not trying to do no interview.

00:35:08.000 All right.

00:35:10.000 They're going to be detaining people illegally.

00:35:12.000 Yeah, literally.

00:35:13.000 What's the set of man if he like uncovers an ice agent, like an actual ice agent?

00:35:17.000 It's like, hey, no, you can't drive that way.

00:35:18.000 I mean, they've already run them out of restaurants.

00:35:20.000 They've already intimidated them in several scenarios.

00:35:22.000 They're in a car and it's one guy.

00:35:24.000 Again, you think, but I mean, look at everything that's happening here.

00:35:28.000 We got guys running plates through security checks.

00:35:31.000 They're wearing masks.

00:35:33.000 They're talking to people, pushing them into cars or pulling them out of cars.

00:35:36.000 This is literally everything that the left complains that ICE is doing.

00:35:40.000 They look exactly like ICE agents, but just, you know, gayer and more communist.

00:35:45.000 And ultimately, they have no real moral pushback.

00:35:49.000 They just want to be the people in charge.

00:35:51.000 They just want to be the authoritarians they claim ICE are, right?

00:35:56.000 That's ultimately their goal.

00:35:57.000 They don't want to get rid of ICE.

00:35:58.000 They don't have a problem with that level of control or the government treating people that way.

00:36:02.000 They just want to treat their enemies that way.

00:36:04.000 They just don't want to be the people under the thumb.

00:36:05.000 They're totally fine with the process.

00:36:08.000 If they could have ICE, but for like white South African refugees, they'd be knocking doors down like every single hour. 1.00

00:36:14.000 They would get all of them out within like 24 hours.

00:36:14.000 It would be insane.

00:36:18.000 The solution for this is a TOS violation.

00:36:22.000 I can't say what to do to fix this, but it would fix it fast.

00:36:26.000 All the solutions are Fed posts.

00:36:28.000 All solutions are Fed posts.

00:36:30.000 They're actually for everything we're for.

00:36:31.000 They just want their side to win.

00:36:34.000 That's what I'm seeing here.

00:36:35.000 They're checking IDs.

00:36:36.000 If you don't belong here, we're going to get rid of you. 0.78

00:36:39.000 I mean, they're literally doing the thing that we're trying to do.

00:36:41.000 Only we're actually following the law.

00:36:44.000 Well, and it blew up their whole narrative recently because didn't it just get leaked that both of the agents that were involved in the Paretti shooting were Hispanic?

00:36:53.000 So now best news.

00:36:55.000 So now, like, just absolutely nothing about this holds.

00:36:58.000 Oh, it's racist.

00:36:59.000 Oh, it's xenophobic.

00:37:00.000 Oh, it's no, actually, like, our based Mexican context removed.

00:37:07.000 You see a story about like two ethnic minorities like brutally murdering a white guy. 0.84

00:37:10.000 And you're like, whoa, what is going on in Minnesota?

00:37:13.000 Like, this is good.

00:37:13.000 So with no context, you're like, this sounds pretty bad.

00:37:16.000 And then it turns out, who would have thought 2026, all the roles are reversed?

00:37:20.000 Things are getting wacky and wild out there.

00:37:22.000 There are nobody more motivated in ICE than the Hispanic men. 0.99

00:37:26.000 Yeah, dude, they're patriots, those guys.

00:37:27.000 Well, it's like the late Roman Empire.

00:37:30.000 You know, it's just filled with the Gauls and all the foreigners that you were trying to keep up before. 1.00

00:37:34.000 Now they're the only people that staff it up.

00:37:37.000 My favorite meme has been the Spider-Man all pointing at each other.

00:37:40.000 Hernandez, ICE agent, Hernandez, illegal, Hernandez, supporter, Hernandez, Congress, dragons.

00:37:47.000 It's just all the Secretary of State.

00:37:50.000 There's something to first and second generation migrants that come here legally.

00:37:53.000 They actually believe the American dream.

00:37:55.000 They were given something they came here to actually have, and they worked hard for it, and they want to keep it.

00:37:59.000 So when they see everyone coming in, pouring it illegally and taking benefits, taking things, they're working hard to provide assistance for the family.

00:38:05.000 I mean, they have every right to be pissed off, and they should be.

00:38:08.000 Every native Floridian knows that the most racist anti-immigrant people in Florida are first generation and second generation Hispanic immigrants.

00:38:16.000 They're like, I got in.

00:38:17.000 I know what those places are like.

00:38:19.000 Pull the ladder up behind me.

00:38:20.000 Light everyone who tries to get in here on fire.

00:38:22.000 I am here to be American.

00:38:24.000 Like, that really is a real phenomenon.

00:38:24.000 We're done.

00:38:26.000 They are aggressive, aggressively anti-immigrant.

00:38:29.000 To your earlier point, though, like, this is all like the laws that ICE are enforcing are all passed in a bipartisan way.

00:38:36.000 They were passed two decades ago or whatever, Democrats and Republicans.

00:38:41.000 Donald Trump was elected with a majority in the Electoral College and a popular majority.

00:38:47.000 The popularity of deporting illegals is something like 85%, or at least criminals is like 90% or 85%, and deporting all illegal immigrants is like 60%.

00:38:59.000 So these people are literally doing everything they can to go against the will of the people and against the law.

00:39:05.000 And then because of the media helping to characterize this as Donald Trump as being a fascist and stuff, there are people that are getting squishy.

00:39:13.000 But if you look at this just on the facts, like this is an extremely popular thing, getting rid of illegal aliens. 0.98

00:39:19.000 This is what Donald Trump was elected for, and we need to see more of it.

00:39:22.000 Well, it's popular with the people, but of course, Hollywood absolutely hates it.

00:39:26.000 And as you might imagine, there was yet another very irrelevant awards ceremony.

00:39:31.000 I'm sure both people who watched it really enjoyed it.

00:39:34.000 I think it's called the Grammys.

00:39:37.000 Yes.

00:39:37.000 So, this obscure Grammys, there's a bunch of guys.

00:39:41.000 I'm old and I like metal music, so I don't know any of the people we're talking about here.

00:39:46.000 There's a Billy Eyelash, some kind of bunny involved.

00:39:51.000 I think we'll eventually get to a very short man giving a speech.

00:39:54.000 But ultimately, it looks like a lot of these people who showed up to the awards ceremony were trying to virtue signal.

00:40:01.000 Oh, Donald Trump, I can't believe ultimately that he was out there going after illegal aliens.

00:40:07.000 We see Bad Bunny here saying, Before I say thanks to God, I'm going to say Ice Out, Bad Bunny said while accepting a Grammy Award for Best Musical Urbana album.

00:40:18.000 Music Uybana.

00:40:19.000 Yeah, sure.

00:40:20.000 Yeah, why not?

00:40:20.000 What's it titled?

00:40:22.000 Please don't attempt to make me.

00:40:24.000 What's it titled?

00:40:25.000 What's it titled?

00:40:26.000 I can't see that.

00:40:26.000 Can you read it out for us?

00:40:27.000 I believe it's a click-clack cloak.

00:40:30.000 But yeah, no, it's a little difficult to make out.

00:40:33.000 But yeah, we're seeing a lot of this.

00:40:35.000 We kind of expected these events the entire.

00:40:38.000 No one cares about the music.

00:40:39.000 No one cares about the speeches, the awards.

00:40:41.000 No one can just say thanks, God, and I really love my country.

00:40:44.000 It's got to be about, you know, hating the current thing.

00:40:47.000 So I guess not surprising that this is the way they're conducting themselves.

00:40:51.000 But let's hear Peter Dinklage here, amazing star of screen and stage telling us about this beautiful poem.

00:40:59.000 He is a program by Amanda Gorman of Vernet firm.

00:41:03.000 Renee Holdgood, killed by ice on January 7th, 2026.

00:41:10.000 They say she is no more.

00:41:12.000 That there her absence roars.

00:41:15.000 Blood blown like a rose.

00:41:18.000 Ice wheels flinched and froze.

00:41:21.000 Now, bare riot of candles, dark fury of flowers, pure howling of hymns.

00:41:29.000 If for us she arose somewhere in the pitch deep of our grief, crouches our power, the howl where we begin straining upon the edge of the crooked crater of the worst of what we've been.

00:41:44.000 Change is only possible and all the greater when the labor and bitter anger of our neighbors is moved by the love and better angels of our nature.

00:41:56.000 What they call death and void, we know his breath and voice.

00:42:03.000 In the end, gorgeously endures our enormity.

00:42:08.000 You could believe departed to be the dawn when the blank night has so long stood.

00:42:17.000 But our bright led angels will never be fully gone when they forever are so fiercely good.

00:42:29.000 It's like short temper from OGs.

00:42:31.000 Yeah, look, guys, I know Peter Dinklage hasn't had to act.

00:42:33.000 We all saw the last season of Game of Thrones in a while, but how did he not bother to even memorize like a couple lines in a poem?

00:42:41.000 Like he's just sitting there reading off his phone like he's some high schooler giving a presentation in like an inner city school.

00:42:49.000 That was his big opportunity.

00:42:50.000 I mean, this is probably the biggest platform he's had since Game of Thrones right now, us showing this video.

00:42:56.000 So he's a cheating show in poetry, but it's like a light tap reading.

00:43:00.000 I'd still like to work with you, Pete.

00:43:01.000 Hit me up.

00:43:02.000 Look better.

00:43:03.000 As far as the Grammys go, I haven't been a fan of the Grammys.

00:43:06.000 I've had problems with the Grammys since 1989 when Metallica lost to Jethro Tull.

00:43:11.000 That's a mean flu.

00:43:12.000 Okay, we should minimize Peter here.

00:43:15.000 I mean, this is a tiny part of a big story.

00:43:17.000 They've done nothing since to redeem themselves.

00:43:20.000 They didn't talk about Vinnie Paul the year that he died in Memoriam.

00:43:24.000 They didn't talk about Ollie Herbert, our guitar player that died in the immemorium.

00:43:28.000 They didn't talk about Brett Hines in Memoriam this year.

00:43:31.000 The Grammys have always treated metal like, you know, basically like the red-headed stepchild.

00:43:37.000 Sorry, Tate.

00:43:38.000 But like they've always been like that.

00:43:41.000 And it's so for me as a guy, you know, and you understand this, as a guy that's into metal and stuff, they've never been good.

00:43:48.000 It's always just a contest of who has the best connections behind the scenes.

00:43:53.000 Tom Morello's on the voting, what is it, the voting panel or whatever.

00:43:58.000 So I don't have anything good to say about the Grammys.

00:44:01.000 They've been terrible, like I said, for me since 1989 when they decided that Jethro Tull should win over Metallica.

00:44:08.000 I found these award ceremonies to be more political, like popularity contests.

00:44:15.000 If they like you, it's like, oh, it's your year to win now, Ian.

00:44:18.000 You've been so patient.

00:44:19.000 You've said your lines and not talked out of turn for 30 years.

00:44:22.000 Here's your lifetime achievement award, and we'll give you an Oscar.

00:44:25.000 But because of that, I'm not surprised when they go hive mind and start repeating all the garbage that you see on MSNBC.

00:44:31.000 It doesn't surprise me.

00:44:32.000 There was, they did have a shockingly pro-white move a few.

00:44:35.000 It was like a decade ago.

00:44:36.000 I was like 2015, 2016.

00:44:38.000 It was like for rap fans, like five of the greatest rap albums ever released came out that year.

00:44:43.000 It's like Kendrick Lamar, some of these other artists.

00:44:45.000 But McElmore won Album of the Year.

00:44:47.000 And if you know McLemore, iconically white rapper.

00:44:50.000 And so that was like kind of the last pro-white move, I think, from the Academy Awards.

00:44:54.000 Was that his song about how great gay marriage is?

00:44:57.000 Yeah, didn't he have a gay uncle who killed himself or something, though?

00:45:00.000 I think it was, I think it was Condor.

00:45:01.000 It was something like that.

00:45:02.000 He's just from Seattle.

00:45:02.000 That stuff happens a lot there.

00:45:04.000 But since then, it's just been really a lot of slow.

00:45:06.000 What gay marriage or suicide? 0.58

00:45:09.000 One leading to the other.

00:45:10.000 They're connected.

00:45:11.000 It's redundant.

00:45:12.000 You know, I wrote a book called The Total State, and one of the big topics in that book is ultimately why we need to see politics just penetrate every cultural sphere.

00:45:21.000 A lot of people are asking, you know, the basic question: you know, why do I need politics in my video games?

00:45:27.000 Why does it have to be in my movies?

00:45:28.000 Why does it have to be in my music?

00:45:30.000 You know, there used to be, there was always some injection.

00:45:33.000 There was always one guy firing off his opinion and acceptance speech.

00:45:36.000 But for the most part, they at least put on the air of, okay, no, this is an event about the music, about the topic we're discussing.

00:45:43.000 But once you get to this kind of late stage of your culture where everything is a political battle, where the rift is just so large and the state needs more and more control over the population, what they're thinking, the only thing you can really do is just have that total state, have the politics penetrate into.

00:46:02.000 And I'm having a hard time with the people who want an audio recording of it.

00:46:05.000 And I don't want to read it myself.

00:46:07.000 I don't have the voice for audio.

00:46:09.000 I want to get AI to do it, though.

00:46:10.000 Maybe something with Tourette's.

00:46:12.000 No, I mean, you're like right now, we're on Rumble.

00:46:15.000 It's showing Ian look at his phone.

00:46:18.000 So they're saying we're back on Rumble.

00:46:20.000 We're back on YouTube.

00:46:21.000 There we go.

00:46:24.000 Yeah.

00:46:24.000 Dude, you guys missed Adam Johnson whipping it out.

00:46:26.000 Yeah, it was kind of stage.

00:46:28.000 There was a hog reveal, and you guys missed it.

00:46:29.000 Adam, what did you say?

00:46:30.000 You said something cool.

00:46:31.000 Oh, I said I was born as crooked.

00:46:34.000 I blame my father, whoever he is.

00:46:36.000 I'm sorry, you were born one. 0.98

00:46:37.000 What?

00:46:38.000 So what you were saying before the show locked up, or what I was saying is I agree with you about inserting politics into culture and all these things because you have to.

00:46:47.000 You know, the world is politicizing, but to do it subtly, because some artists are so hit you over the head with it.

00:46:52.000 It's like, if I don't wear my MAGA hat, you're not going to get it.

00:46:54.000 And it's like, well, you know, you can be subtle.

00:46:57.000 I don't want people on the left to understand that I'm propagandizing them.

00:47:01.000 I don't want people on the right to know that I'm propagandizing them.

00:47:03.000 So one of the things that allows art to be subtle is a shared cultural tapestry, right?

00:47:08.000 And one of the problems, the reason that we're seeing everything become so obvious is we're losing that shared fabric that allows us to provide nuance.

00:47:16.000 They have to make sure that they kind of state outright what they mean.

00:47:20.000 Because maybe you're a red stater and you don't know all the blue code, or maybe you're a blue stater and you don't know all the red code.

00:47:25.000 Now, the conservatives have been bad at art for a while, but the fact that the left is getting like obviously very bad at it very quickly is actually a win for us overall because it means that the implicit left coding that allowed them to kind of suddenly massage their messages into our culture no longer works.

00:47:41.000 Not with you.

00:47:42.000 I'd rather have my art convey shared cultural messages.

00:47:46.000 But if the only shared culture messages are like chopping kids' genitals off, then it's okay. 0.90

00:47:52.000 You can pretty obvious.

00:47:54.000 Well, I mean, I've got some experience in this writing stuff that's like subtly political.

00:48:00.000 And if you write things that are subtle, people are going to understand them in their own way.

00:48:07.000 I've gotten a lot of people that they tweet at me or they'll post and they're mad when they find out that the songs that they thought meant something because it was subtle, they thought that it meant one thing, come to find out that I don't hold those beliefs or I didn't hold those beliefs and they are upset.

00:48:25.000 So yes, it is true. 0.53

00:48:26.000 It is better when you can be subtle, but if you want to send a message, you do have to be fairly clear.

00:48:34.000 And if you're not, you know, for a lot of people, if you're not specifically overtly saying something, they're going to internalize it as something that they relate to.

00:48:44.000 And honestly, that's kind of what you want.

00:48:46.000 Listen, when you write a song, you want people to listen to the song and you want them to think of it as their own, right?

00:48:54.000 When you listen to music that you love, you think about like, where did you hear the song first?

00:48:59.000 Like, what were the circumstances in your life?

00:49:01.000 There are songs that I love, and every time I hear them, you know, when I haven't heard it for a long time, I remember what it smelled like when I was listening to that song for the first time a lot.

00:49:10.000 And so those kind of memories are something that's attached to music, and you don't want to take that away from people.

00:49:15.000 But at the same time, if people find out or when people realize that you weren't saying what they thought you were saying, they get very upset and they feel like you've taken something from them, even though it was never something that was offered to them in the first place.

00:49:28.000 I think it comes down to is this, the connotation of words, right?

00:49:30.000 I mean, progressives will always progress their ideology, right?

00:49:33.000 Conservatives supposed to conserve.

00:49:34.000 What we usually do is actually concede.

00:49:36.000 And it starts with starts with connotations of vernacular, right?

00:49:39.000 It's the, it's, when we're like abortion, it's, you know, it's safe, rare, and legal.

00:49:43.000 And conservatives say, well, that's, that's fair.

00:49:45.000 You know, we don't want someone who was, you know, raped or incest to be forced to have a child.

00:49:49.000 And then they move that word, right?

00:49:51.000 It's no longer, you know, you know, now it's women's health care, right? 0.93

00:49:55.000 When initially it was just murder.

00:49:57.000 That's, that's where we all agreed as human beings.

00:50:00.000 When you take away the life of something, that's what it is.

00:50:02.000 We concede these words to the left.

00:50:04.000 And eventually we no longer have common ground because as they progress, they get further and further away from that common ground, that, you know, that soft working of words of, wouldn't it be cool if XYZ? 0.89

00:50:14.000 Well, and this is the nature of the conservative liberal dynamic, right?

00:50:17.000 Conservatives or the right really creates in that moment of founding the civilization.

00:50:24.000 The right are the people who are going to cut civilization out of the wilderness.

00:50:29.000 They're going to fight back the barbarians.

00:50:31.000 They're the people who are going to establish the norms and the rules, the strong culture, the strong religion, the strong understanding.

00:50:37.000 They are the ones that initially build.

00:50:39.000 And then the left are the ones that start iterating.

00:50:42.000 They start looking for different ways to combine.

00:50:44.000 They look for different processes that they can manipulate.

00:50:47.000 In some ways, this is ultimately positive.

00:50:49.000 You need your institutions to grow and change over time, be able to overcome new problems.

00:50:55.000 But they do that by unspooling the nature of the society that exists in the first place.

00:51:01.000 The left is largely entropic, right?

00:51:03.000 It is breaking down order constantly, and that's where it generates its energy.

00:51:08.000 So whenever it runs out of things to deconstruct, to destroy, to break apart, that's when it peters out.

00:51:14.000 And that's when the right tends to rush back in and reconstitute that order.

00:51:18.000 But that is the cycle of not just civilization, but even things like art and culture.

00:51:22.000 So like the right now, as far as I can tell, the internet is allowing cultures around the world to obliterate the American conservative nature, the nature, conservative nature of the United States, because it's just getting hit from every angle by so many things and then immigration. 0.92

00:51:36.000 And so there's like a rapid iteration redux, it feels like, going on right now.

00:51:42.000 So funny enough, Karl Marx was actually used to say that he was pro-free trade.

00:51:42.000 Yeah.

00:51:48.000 And the joke of why he was pro-free trade is he thought it brought down cultural barriers faster.

00:51:54.000 And the faster you dissolved cultures and traditions, the faster you could get rid of nations and create the communist utopia, the global order.

00:52:02.000 And in a way, what we're seeing with the internet is the vast increased democratization and velocity of exchanges of information in the way that we saw with capital previously.

00:52:13.000 And so all these things that used to give you shared culture are now like immediately dissolved by like this constant churn of information and everything.

00:52:22.000 And so I think what you're going to continue to see is like this destruction of existing cultures.

00:52:27.000 And it's the people who are ultimately able to control that process.

00:52:31.000 And again, I think we had this conversation last time we were on here, but this is why China and others are working so hard and so quickly trying to control internet and information as radically as possible. 0.92

00:52:41.000 Because if they don't, ultimately they will dissolve too.

00:52:44.000 Even these communist authoritarian structures will break down under the constant wave and increase the velocity of information.

00:52:52.000 So I think we've gotten pretty far away from the Grammys.

00:52:56.000 But the point being is like, I think that's why ultimately we're seeing the internet interact with kind of national identities and why the left is continue to break down who they think we are.

00:53:07.000 But in the same instance, they're breaking their own ideas and culture down just as quickly.

00:53:11.000 And the grand irony before we go to the next story that the Grammys was the kind of the epicenter of cultural cohesion for a long time.

00:53:11.000 Yeah.

00:53:19.000 Everybody getting together on Thursday night to watch the Grammys and then the next day at work, you'd talk about what song won.

00:53:24.000 I heard that on the radio last week.

00:53:26.000 But now that's very same institution that was supposed to kind of centralize us to remember something together is sporadic.

00:53:34.000 It feels like I don't even know what song.

00:53:35.000 I don't even know if I knew any song at the Grammys.

00:53:37.000 I don't even know if I've heard it because I don't listen to the radio.

00:53:39.000 Spiritbox performance was great.

00:53:41.000 I'll say that much.

00:53:43.000 I didn't know they were there.

00:53:44.000 Yeah.

00:53:44.000 Okay, well, that might have been worth talking.

00:53:46.000 They're a heavy metal band.

00:53:47.000 But I will say, it's likely that the only reason that that particular heavy metal band was performing is because they have a female singer.

00:53:53.000 That's correct.

00:53:55.000 Yeah.

00:53:55.000 They should have gone with Seven Kingdoms.

00:53:57.000 Better female lead singer.

00:53:58.000 Yeah.

00:53:59.000 All right, guys.

00:54:00.000 Well, we also want to talk a little bit about some more happenings in Minneapolis.

00:54:05.000 The left, of course, was talking for years and years about the need for body cams.

00:54:09.000 And all of a sudden, after finally getting what they wanted most, they've recognized that that's a huge mistake coming from CBS News.

00:54:16.000 All federal immigration agents in Minneapolis will begin by wearing body cameras.

00:54:21.000 Secretary of Homeland Security, Christine Noam, said on Monday, as the department faces intense scrutiny over a pair of fatal shootings by federal agents in the Twin Cities, effective immediately, we are deploying body cams to every officer in the field in Minneapolis.

00:54:36.000 Noam said on X, writing that she had discussed the move with the heads of immigration, customs, enforcement, and border protection.

00:54:44.000 So obviously, you know, we've been making this joke for a long time, but the call for body cameras has been the largest cell phone the left has ever had in history.

00:54:54.000 All the cops were racist.

00:54:55.000 All of them were brutal.

00:54:57.000 And of course, we do see that.

00:54:58.000 And I'm glad that ultimately we do have footage for when the police are stepping out of line.

00:55:03.000 But the majority of what we're seeing is actually the police are largely justified.

00:55:07.000 The body cams are vindicating most of the actions.

00:55:09.000 And so the fact that the left has seen what a disaster this is and now they're trying to actively fight against those body cams really is one of the just most beautiful things you've seen along the way.

00:55:18.000 Worth noting the fact that there are so many leftists that are saying, no, these are actually bad and they're contributing to stereotypes and we should stop this now.

00:55:26.000 It's really important.

00:55:28.000 Oh, it's an invasion of privacy because they're going to record these guys when they shouldn't even be interacting with them in the first place.

00:55:33.000 Trump said it perfectly. 0.98

00:55:34.000 It's just like, this is the best thing that ever happened to law enforcement was the body cameras because it just showed that they were justified every single time in paraphrasing what he said.

00:55:41.000 So it'd be the same thing with ICE.

00:55:43.000 It's like, okay, maybe these fatal shootings, who really knows what happens?

00:55:47.000 Because it's really the ICE agent's word versus the person that's not there anymore.

00:55:50.000 So with the police, or sorry, with the body camera, I think it's going to put away a lot of these high-profile deaths or whatever.

00:55:58.000 So I just love that they're saying, oh, the body cams are enforcing stereotypes.

00:56:03.000 Like, huh?

00:56:04.000 Yeah.

00:56:04.000 Maybe the perpetrators should stop enforcing stereotypes.

00:56:09.000 No, it's the camera.

00:56:09.000 The camera made the game, Adam.

00:56:11.000 It's the camera.

00:56:11.000 Yeah.

00:56:12.000 I'm sure you experienced that.

00:56:13.000 The camera just compelled you.

00:56:14.000 It's a big magnet.

00:56:17.000 I mean, it is.

00:56:18.000 I do think that this is going to be a good thing overall because, like, you said, you know, when it does show that the officers or agents have stepped out of line, you know, we can do something about it because you do want police to behave in appropriate ways.

00:56:33.000 But I think that in the long run, it's going to show that the police largely behave in appropriate ways.

00:56:38.000 And the people that are, you know, people that are being arrested are the problem.

00:56:42.000 Look, the people that are going to say that the police are the problem are going to say that the police are the problem no matter what.

00:56:48.000 You had the shooting of what's Predi?

00:56:51.000 I forget what his first name is.

00:56:52.000 Junior Pretty.

00:56:54.000 They were like, I will not.

00:56:54.000 his name.

00:56:56.000 There were like six or seven different angles of that shooting.

00:57:01.000 And people are just like, no, you see, this is, this is, of course, this is police brutality, blah, blah, blah.

00:57:06.000 It's so wrong, et cetera, et cetera.

00:57:08.000 And it doesn't matter what you show them.

00:57:11.000 They're going to do, I mean, just like you say all the time, it's friend-enemy distinction.

00:57:15.000 That's the way that the left operates.

00:57:17.000 And so if you're on the left, you're going to say, well, this.

00:57:20.000 And then, and if you have an answer for that particular argument, well, they'll change the argument.

00:57:24.000 Just move the goalpost.

00:57:25.000 And that's the way that you're going to be.

00:57:26.000 They champion Luigi shooting the United Healthcare CEO.

00:57:30.000 So they would champion Alex shooting an ICE officer.

00:57:33.000 That's who they are.

00:57:34.000 So funny enough, you saying they, you know, say, say his name, say her name.

00:57:37.000 Have you seen the left struggle sessioning all the white leftists saying, oh, no, say her name.

00:57:42.000 That's only for that's only for black women. 1.00

00:57:44.000 We only say the name of black women. 0.99

00:57:45.000 So even if you martyr yourself, like even if you literally die for the cause as a white person, you are still such scum to these people that they're like, no, we're not going to say, we're not going to honor you.

00:57:57.000 All white martyrs will be named Robert Polson. 0.63

00:58:00.000 There was literally that guy, the guy that lit himself on fire for Palestine and in uniform.

00:58:04.000 And literally there was a viral tweet with like 60, 70k likes that was like, yeah, but this guy had no problem taking a paycheck from the institution that was like harming, you know, people in the valley.

00:58:13.000 So I was like, you literally could light yourself on fire and they would still dunk on you.

00:58:16.000 I also love that I forget that that happened until someone brings up every time they're like, we will remember you for the cause.

00:58:22.000 No, they won't.

00:58:23.000 I don't care.

00:58:24.000 I'm legitimate.

00:58:24.000 Not even being positive.

00:58:25.000 I do not remember his name.

00:58:26.000 No, no.

00:58:26.000 Don't write anything about him.

00:58:28.000 I do, but I won't say it.

00:58:30.000 Part of the reason why I.

00:58:30.000 Well, because it's for black women, Paul.

00:58:33.000 It's for black women. 1.00

00:58:34.000 Part of the reason why I remember it is I have a great little clip about it where it's just totally demolishes his performance, and I'll send it to you guys later.

00:58:44.000 I just feel bad for all those virgins waiting for him. 0.97

00:58:48.000 Well, it's 72 trans women.

00:58:51.000 So it's quite the letdown.

00:58:51.000 Yeah.

00:58:53.000 I want to get body cameras that are 360 on these cops. 0.87

00:58:56.000 So you could go on YouTube 360 and spin around and see, but would that give away too much information?

00:59:02.000 Like now you know who's approaching the cop from behind, like how to get closer to a cop when he's not looking.

00:59:08.000 Or would that just be good, good analytics?

00:59:10.000 Can they live stream?

00:59:11.000 I would pay for that badass kind of.

00:59:14.000 So that is actually an interesting question.

00:59:16.000 Like, does the body cam, regularity of body cams create a scenario where you're giving away techniques, giving away information intelligence, right?

00:59:25.000 Like, that's something that you worry about constantly in a warfare scenario.

00:59:29.000 You don't want to think about our urban environments like that.

00:59:31.000 But that is a real concern to think about ultimately because we see that these guys are operating their autonomous zones.

00:59:37.000 We're running your plates through the system.

00:59:39.000 They're already mimicking all the things they think ICE is doing.

00:59:42.000 What if they're just using that body cam footage as some kind of game film to figure out how they should behaving or how they could trap, you know, trick an ICE agent, lure them in to a bad situation because they've watched how that film is played out before?

00:59:55.000 I think that's a possibility that a lot of people haven't considered when it comes to the body cam.

01:00:00.000 It's another example of liberalism getting taken advantage of by authoritarianism.

01:00:04.000 Like we're making, it's a very good act of faith to have your police officers linked up to a camera.

01:00:09.000 Like you're putting some, you know, some responsibility on these guys, some accountability.

01:00:16.000 And the downside of that is if some autocrat wants to come and ruin the system, they've got a better information about how to do it.

01:00:22.000 We've got Trump here talking about the body cams.

01:00:24.000 Let's check on that real quick.

01:00:27.000 Enforcement because people can't lie about what's happening.

01:00:30.000 So it's generally speaking, I think 80% good for law enforcement.

01:00:34.000 But if he wants to do that, I'm okay with it.

01:00:39.000 That was it.

01:00:40.000 That was it.

01:00:41.000 And we're taking deep fakes.

01:00:43.000 So how long until they get a deep fake body camp?

01:00:47.000 Or has it already happened?

01:00:48.000 Well, there is a real info hazard of just AI body cams wrecking people, right?

01:00:53.000 Like they, oh, well, it looks like body cam footage.

01:00:55.000 I would immediately accept it because of the graininess or the way that it, you know, it plays out.

01:00:59.000 And then all of a sudden that goes viral, completely changes the story.

01:01:02.000 You assume that it's legitimate because it looks like it's from a body cam.

01:01:06.000 It doesn't look like just an average cell phone or something else that's easily manipulated.

01:01:09.000 That's a real problem.

01:01:10.000 Bro, we just saw the picture of that guy's face get AI manipulated.

01:01:13.000 Preddy.

01:01:14.000 Pretty.

01:01:15.000 And next phase will be a completely made-up human gets assaulted by a police officer.

01:01:20.000 There are riots in a street somewhere.

01:01:21.000 MSNBC picks up the story, runs the image of this completely doctored, fictitious event in a fake person.

01:01:28.000 So this is a really thing, like, this is a very Baudrillardian moment.

01:01:32.000 Like, what happens when you have your first riot for a fake victim?

01:01:37.000 Not in the civil rights, you know, yeah, sure, I'm sure that guy got knocked down in the 1980s, but like an actual completely computer-generated human being from the ground up.

01:01:46.000 Yes, that is absolutely the simulacrum.

01:01:48.000 Yeah.

01:01:49.000 Well, they had an AI video come out where it was Renee Good complying. 0.91

01:01:51.000 She was like, yes, officer, yes.

01:01:52.000 And then steps out of the car.

01:01:53.000 So it's like, we could have the first AI exoneration where it stops a riot.

01:01:57.000 I don't know.

01:01:57.000 I'm just bitballing here.

01:01:58.000 I've never seen that video.

01:01:59.000 I wanted to bring it up.

01:01:59.000 It was really quick.

01:02:00.000 That's an amazing video.

01:02:01.000 You could teach your kids be like, I don't think that's a good idea.

01:02:03.000 No, those videos ever stopped a riot.

01:02:06.000 What we do is we blackbag the commies and then we put their admissions of their loyalty to Trump out like Winston from 1984, except it's just their AI representation, right?

01:02:18.000 Like they disappear.

01:02:18.000 But, oh, look, before he went off to that island in Tahiti, he definitely endorsed President Trump's name.

01:02:24.000 That's what we can do for any events we don't have holdouts left is we could have Maduro singing the I Will Vote for Donald Trump song, which the Cubans sang, and then just plastered on a Goodyear blimp and fly it over Caracas. 0.54

01:02:35.000 And any loyalists will come out and be like, oh, well, clearly I'm being bamboozled here.

01:02:38.000 I should be supporting President.

01:02:40.000 What's the Baudrian?

01:02:40.000 Beautiful thing.

01:02:42.000 You said Baudrian?

01:02:44.000 So Jean Baudillard was a French philosopher who wrote Simulation and Simi Lacrum, which is the book that the Wachowskis read before The Matrix, before they did that.

01:02:54.000 But it's also like a much deeper study on the nature of creating false realities and hyper-reality is a term you might have heard that came out of Baudrillard.

01:03:03.000 Basically, I think he made the argument that the Iraq war never happened.

01:03:08.000 That's one of those famous adversaries.

01:03:09.000 So it's not that war things happened, right?

01:03:13.000 There was actually combat.

01:03:15.000 But because in war, you don't know who's going to win, right?

01:03:20.000 In a real war, you don't know who's going to win.

01:03:22.000 There's a chance that one side will outsmart the other.

01:03:26.000 But there was no chance that Iraq was going to win the first Gulf War. 0.72

01:03:31.000 Like everyone knew it.

01:03:32.000 The United States was going to go in and do what they wanted.

01:03:34.000 So it wasn't really a war.

01:03:36.000 So the argument was it was a simulation of a war.

01:03:39.000 The Iraq war never actually happened because there was no war because it looked like war and there were more things, but real wars are not predetermined.

01:03:51.000 There's the possibility of someone else winning.

01:03:54.000 Well, and it's also not experienced by the wider population.

01:03:56.000 They only see it on the television screen.

01:03:58.000 It's all abstract.

01:03:59.000 And in a way, you could say the protests in Minnesota never happened, right?

01:04:03.000 Because how many people really are experiencing them?

01:04:06.000 How many people really understand what's going on?

01:04:07.000 All of your reality is being absorbed through social media, through clips, through out-of-context understandings.

01:04:13.000 You don't know anybody who's been there.

01:04:15.000 You know people who, if you were alive in the 1950s, you knew people who went through World War II.

01:04:20.000 You could talk to people.

01:04:21.000 You probably experienced it.

01:04:22.000 Everyone you knew experienced it.

01:04:23.000 It was a real war in the sense that people you knew had direct experience.

01:04:27.000 When it came to different civil rights struggles or nationwide protests, they were real in the sense that everyone saw them happen.

01:04:35.000 But when you have these small, focused, hyper-media-concentrated scenarios, it's all abstract.

01:04:41.000 It's all removed.

01:04:42.000 Nobody has direct understandings of what's going on.

01:04:45.000 So what do we end up doing?

01:04:46.000 We all end up debating the hyper-realities we're experiencing rather than actually discussing the facts on the ground and what we have experienced as people.

01:04:54.000 And that's kind of what society has become.

01:04:54.000 Yeah.

01:04:57.000 Like everything is a simulation of reality to some degree nowadays.

01:05:01.000 Or for the most, the vast majority of people's lives now are a simulation of reality because we experience it through screens as opposed to going out and doing things and experiencing it firsthand.

01:05:11.000 Literally everything we're talking about tonight is through simulation.

01:05:15.000 Yes.

01:05:15.000 Yeah.

01:05:16.000 We are debating the simulacrum in a very real sense.

01:05:19.000 We're part of the problem.

01:05:19.000 Yes.

01:05:20.000 Yeah.

01:05:21.000 And the solution, I think.

01:05:23.000 We should all be wearing body cameras while we're live.

01:05:25.000 I think that would help.

01:05:26.000 I heard this conspiracy theory that Charlemagne, you guys probably heard he was the first Holy Roman Emperor.

01:05:31.000 Was that he was a radio host.

01:05:34.000 Charlemagne the God.

01:05:34.000 Yeah.

01:05:35.000 Yeah.

01:05:35.000 But in the year, all of a sudden the Catholic Church was like, it's the year 1000 and there was a guy named Charlemagne that was your first Holy Roman Emperor and we've always controlled this land for 400 years.

01:05:44.000 I don't know if it's real.

01:05:45.000 But it's like considering the simulacrum and just like foisted history.

01:05:49.000 Was it Gregory that took 18 days out of the calendar?

01:05:52.000 Well, to be fair, he really did kill the Saxons until they converted to Christianity. 0.59

01:05:55.000 That was not a simulation.

01:05:56.000 So that was a very realistic.

01:05:59.000 I'm still not over the Norman conquest, dude.

01:06:00.000 It makes me so mad.

01:06:02.000 Conditional.

01:06:03.000 Everyone's like hung up on Jews.

01:06:04.000 I'm like, okay, can we handle the Normans?

01:06:06.000 Do you want to do the Norman question?

01:06:07.000 Something was taken from you?

01:06:09.000 Yes.

01:06:10.000 Anglo-Saxon society.

01:06:11.000 They just went in there and they were.

01:06:12.000 They were the Norman yoke.

01:06:13.000 It just weighs on my shoulders.

01:06:14.000 So now I'm thinking about we're settling.

01:06:17.000 Just really want to bring back that pre-ma nocturn.

01:06:19.000 Oh, no.

01:06:19.000 Things are.

01:06:21.000 We'll probably go there.

01:06:23.000 I don't know if we talked about the Grammys.

01:06:24.000 Billie Eilish said, you know, you can't, you can't take stolen.

01:06:29.000 No one can claim stolen land and there are no borders.

01:06:31.000 So like it was a contradiction, I think, in what she said.

01:06:33.000 You know, there's no borders, but the land has been stolen.

01:06:36.000 But like, if there's no borders, then there's nothing to steal.

01:06:39.000 We're all about to colonize Mars and the moon.

01:06:41.000 So like, what do we do?

01:06:42.000 How do we do this?

01:06:43.000 Is it whoever gets there first gets to have it?

01:06:45.000 Yes.

01:06:46.000 And then they'll just kill anyone that tries to take it.

01:06:46.000 Yes.

01:06:48.000 And that's just how it's always going to be.

01:06:49.000 Yeah, we own the moon.

01:06:50.000 We own the moon.

01:06:50.000 Yeah.

01:06:50.000 Right.

01:06:51.000 Our flag was there first.

01:06:52.000 That's how it works.

01:06:53.000 Yeah.

01:06:53.000 100%.

01:06:54.000 We're in a race to come.

01:06:56.000 I mean, there's not really a race.

01:06:57.000 Like the United States is going to send up the Artemis rocket and the end of the week or something like that.

01:07:02.000 And then a few months later, I guess the Artemis is going to actually go up and land and we'll start building the first moon base up there.

01:07:09.000 Maybe we can talk about it on the after show.

01:07:10.000 This is a whole other conversation, moon settlement.

01:07:12.000 Because I also have an idea of how to defend the moon, but it's not YouTube friendly.

01:07:15.000 Lasers?

01:07:17.000 I wish.

01:07:18.000 Much hotter.

01:07:18.000 A swimming contest?

01:07:19.000 Are you going to talk about the Golden Dome?

01:07:25.000 The Golden Dome is not just land-based, I learned.

01:07:28.000 We're literally looking at having satellites that are involved in that.

01:07:32.000 Well, Reagan called that Star Wars.

01:07:35.000 The moon project's been around for a while.

01:07:36.000 35 years ago, it was less realistic than it is now.

01:07:39.000 That's true.

01:07:40.000 So anyhow.

01:07:41.000 Oh, that took a left-hand turn.

01:07:43.000 Yeah, Reagan was a left drop. 1.00

01:07:46.000 Well, we also want to talk about other deportation efforts.

01:07:46.000 All right, guys.

01:07:49.000 There's been rumors that the Trump administration is going to ramp up its efforts, not just towards the Somali population in Minnesota, but also looking at the Haitian population.

01:08:01.000 Over 300 groups are asking Donald Trump and his administration to reverse course on ending the Haitian temporary protected status.

01:08:09.000 Hundreds of organizations, including civil rights groups, labor unions, immigrants' rights advocates, and faith leaders nationwide are urging President Trump and leaders of the Department of State and Homeland Security to preserve temporary immigration status for Haitians.

01:08:24.000 The calls come amid a growing fear and anxiety over the fate of more than 300,000 Haitians who could lose temporary protected status benefits as of 1259 Tuesday if a federal judge does not intervene.

01:08:37.000 Now, the most impressive part of this has been the hilarious Democrats who have been going out there and warning, giving press conferences.

01:08:44.000 They've been saying insane stuff like, please, whatever you do, don't send them back.

01:08:48.000 Haiti is a dangerous place. 1.00

01:08:50.000 You can't send Haitians to Haiti. 1.00

01:08:51.000 What?

01:08:53.000 Sending these people back to Haiti is basically a death sentence.

01:08:58.000 And that's why we are asking the administration to open up their hearts and to extend this TPS.

01:09:03.000 And to extend the power of the pressure.

01:09:05.000 Now, Tate, still looks great for 70.

01:09:08.000 I have a theoretical question for you.

01:09:11.000 If a country is dangerous because it's full of people from that country, if you bring the people of that country to our country, what happens? 1.00

01:09:20.000 Does the magical soil make them not dangerous?

01:09:23.000 No pets go missing.

01:09:25.000 Magic soil.

01:09:26.000 If you just ask the Dominicans about Haiti.

01:09:27.000 I mean, talk about Israel-Palestine.

01:09:28.000 We have it in our hemisphere.

01:09:30.000 The Haitians and Dominicans, they go, well, it's really the Dominicans. 0.98

01:09:33.000 They're just like, don't touch the wall.

01:09:33.000 They don't go Haiti.

01:09:35.000 Yeah, literally.

01:09:36.000 So you want to see, you know, Israel-Palestine looks like a freaking kid's birthday party compared to what the Dominicans do. 1.00

01:09:36.000 Like, yeah. 1.00

01:09:41.000 They can't stand the Haitians and probably because they keep eating their cats and stuff. 1.00

01:09:44.000 I'm pretty sure that's the thing.

01:09:46.000 For people that don't know, the Dominican Republic and Haiti are on the same island, right?

01:09:50.000 And there is a gigantic wall.

01:09:52.000 The Dominicans are just like, don't come near the wall, Haitians. 1.00

01:09:56.000 And if you come near the wall, we will shoot you.

01:09:58.000 And they do.

01:09:59.000 Yeah, so how does the Dominican Republic have a better policy on Haitians in the United States?

01:10:04.000 What is going on?

01:10:06.000 They've got experience.

01:10:06.000 Have you met a Dominican there?

01:10:08.000 They've been dealing with it since the beginning.

01:10:10.000 That's true.

01:10:10.000 What's the deal with Haiti?

01:10:12.000 And this isn't a Seinfeld thing.

01:10:13.000 I'm serious.

01:10:14.000 It's what's the deal with Haiti. 1.00

01:10:16.000 You can't have a dog, man.

01:10:18.000 Go this way.

01:10:20.000 It was founded on a satanic blood ritual.

01:10:22.000 And I'm not sure.

01:10:22.000 That's true of a joke.

01:10:23.000 Like they just murdered all the white people there and sacrificed them. 0.88

01:10:27.000 And yeah, that's it's it's cursed.

01:10:29.000 Was it like a revolution?

01:10:30.000 Like it was the revolution because it was a French colony, right?

01:10:35.000 And the Haitians were working as slaves at the time.

01:10:37.000 So you can understand why they were a little angry at the French given everything that was going on.

01:10:41.000 But the reaction was, let's say, John Brown-esque in its disproportionality, except they did it to the entire white population of the island at the time.

01:10:50.000 What year?

01:10:51.000 Whatever got better.

01:10:53.000 I don't have the people now, right?

01:10:55.000 1805, it looks like.

01:10:56.000 And then they've just been living off the industrial refuse since or something.

01:11:01.000 And it's changed.

01:11:01.000 Not much has improved since then.

01:11:03.000 Well, they're usually run by cannibal warlords. 0.65

01:11:05.000 I believe Barbecue is the current leadership.

01:11:08.000 He's a respectable member of the international community.

01:11:10.000 Yeah.

01:11:10.000 But God is merciful and sends a hurricane once a year to clean up the problems.

01:11:14.000 There was the family guy bit where Godzilla rolled up to Port-au-Prince and he was like, oh, oh, and like slowly treated back in the water.

01:11:22.000 I've made a terrible mistake.

01:11:24.000 I see I'm not needed here.

01:11:26.000 They've already destroyed everything.

01:11:28.000 Yeah, I know.

01:11:29.000 It's really something that they're just like, this country is so unbelievably violent that even the people that flopped out of the country while accounts. wouldn't be able to go back.

01:11:40.000 I mean, it's absolutely, that's the whole thing.

01:11:41.000 I think it was Matt Walsh.

01:11:43.000 He made the point where he's like, usually people coming from the third world are the ones that actually flopped out of the country.

01:11:48.000 Like they're not like the top performers.

01:11:49.000 These people that couldn't cut it in Guatemala.

01:11:51.000 So now they're coming to the U.S. 0.99

01:11:52.000 And it's the same thing with the Haitians. 0.99

01:11:53.000 It's like, these aren't like the top performers making it over here.

01:11:56.000 Those guys are running things in Haiti.

01:11:58.000 These are the people that are literally at the bottom of the barrel and they're like out of desperation to try and sneak into the U.S.

01:12:01.000 Well, we tried to help them several times.

01:12:03.000 There were earthquakes back in, God, was it 06?

01:12:06.000 06, something like that.

01:12:08.000 And 2010, the Clinton Foundation came in and was supposed to take care of all of these people.

01:12:13.000 And all their children disappeared.

01:12:14.000 Something like that.

01:12:16.000 Something like that.

01:12:17.000 We have tried to help billions in Haiti.

01:12:21.000 It says after Haiti had the independence in 1804, they had to pay $25 billion back to France and it destroyed their economy.

01:12:29.000 And then the U.S. took control of the country from 1915 to 34, entrenching foreign control.

01:12:35.000 That's all.

01:12:36.000 And then it goes on.

01:12:37.000 The whole idea, because this is what these third worldist activists, they always blame France for Haiti's despair.

01:12:45.000 And they'll be like, oh, it's this massive debt they hold over them.

01:12:48.000 But it's Haitians, A. 1.00

01:12:50.000 And then B, they missed the payments all the time.

01:12:53.000 It wasn't like they actually made these payments at all.

01:12:56.000 It's like France is not a good idea.

01:12:57.000 That's a dangerous stereotype to say they don't have to do it.

01:12:59.000 Their credit is terrible.

01:13:00.000 It's not anyone's fault.

01:13:02.000 The worst part about Haiti is their credit score. 1.00

01:13:02.000 It's worth it. 1.00

01:13:06.000 It's worth noting that there is a 365-day growing season in that country, right?

01:13:11.000 Yeah, literally.

01:13:12.000 Even if you were just an agricultural country and based on just that, they should be able to produce enough not only to trade with other countries, but to feed everybody in Haiti.

01:13:22.000 They don't.

01:13:23.000 They eat each other sometimes.

01:13:26.000 Have you had vegetables?

01:13:30.000 So you had Haitians? 0.50

01:13:31.000 I mean, I was in prison.

01:13:35.000 So we do have some breaking news here.

01:13:37.000 It looks like a federal judge temporarily blocked the end of protections for Haitians in the U.S.

01:13:42.000 The ruling pauses the Trump administration's plan to end a program that allowed more than 350,000 people from Haiti to remain in the United States.

01:13:55.000 A federal judge on Monday temporarily blocked the Trump administration from ending a humanitarian protection for more than 350,000 Haitians who have been able to live and work in the United States under what is known as temporary protected status.

01:14:10.000 So no surprise there.

01:14:11.000 Another activist judge says, of course, you can't deport people who shouldn't be here.

01:14:15.000 That would mean you have some kind of, I don't know, executive power.

01:14:18.000 It's like you were elected to do something.

01:14:20.000 It's my job, of course, to stop you immediately.

01:14:23.000 Now, you'll never guess what she looks like. 0.99

01:14:28.000 If I was in the most Icelandic Cantina, would that help me guess your name?

01:14:33.000 It helps.

01:14:33.000 No surprise.

01:14:34.000 Oh, no.

01:14:35.000 All right, the other direction.

01:14:36.000 Yeah.

01:14:36.000 On the left?

01:14:38.000 Exactly.

01:14:39.000 She looks like a good boy.

01:14:41.000 So the temporary protected status here we see in the article is a designation that's created by the U.S. government and can give to countries grappling with natural disasters, armed conflicts, or other acute crisis, make conditions in their country particularly dangerous.

01:14:53.000 There's only one problem.

01:14:54.000 That's just Haiti all the time. 1.00

01:14:56.000 That's just an excuse to move all of Haiti here all the time. 1.00

01:15:00.000 And guys, we were talking about this a little bit in the behind the scenes, the green room beforehand.

01:15:04.000 But I think this is a big shift because previously when we talked about immigration, conservatives, Republicans, they were always terrified even to talk about immigration restriction.

01:15:14.000 But one of the things they were very careful about was to always make it about the individual.

01:15:18.000 It's about the individual person.

01:15:19.000 We can't judge groups.

01:15:21.000 We can't talk about groups.

01:15:22.000 We can't prefer groups.

01:15:23.000 We have to judge each individual on their own.

01:15:26.000 And instead, what we're seeing is increasingly conservatives are comfortable saying, no, there are countries.

01:15:31.000 peoples, religions, traditions that are not compatible with us, that are not ultimately going to help the U.S. is not going to contribute to the overall well-being of the American people.

01:15:42.000 So whether it's Somalia or Haiti or whatever country we're looking at, if ultimately we deem that country to not be worth our time to not be contributing, it's okay to just say blanket, no, we are not interested in having people from that country here. 1.00

01:15:56.000 And I think that's actually a monumental shift in the rhetoric and framing when it comes to the immigration issue.

01:16:01.000 Implicit bias saves lives.

01:16:04.000 That's it.

01:16:05.000 I think if you live your life in whatever bubble you live in, you'd have a pretty good idea of who you surround yourself with and the actions of those around you.

01:16:05.000 That's it.

01:16:12.000 And if you formulate opinions based on your own bubble, and those opinions happen to be what some people call racist, I would say, well, you go live in those places and live around the same people.

01:16:21.000 But there is a reason why people do self-select and self-sort throughout the entire country.

01:16:25.000 There is.

01:16:26.000 There is.

01:16:26.000 People like to be safe and like to be around like-minded people.

01:16:29.000 And that's not terrible.

01:16:30.000 That's not a terrible thing.

01:16:31.000 I like people that I have things in common with.

01:16:33.000 Yeah, literally.

01:16:34.000 This is like the whole thing is because it's great that we're able to address Haitians and Somalians and stuff.

01:16:38.000 But it's downstream from the real, like, you know, I guess the real conclusion that we should be coming to, which is like the demographic composition of your country is like a very valid, like the very valid discussion to have.

01:16:49.000 And for whatever reason, like people in the West aren't allowed to have that, but pretty much every other country is allowed to have a conversation.

01:16:55.000 Like, what do I want my culture to look like?

01:16:56.000 What do I want my country to look like?

01:16:57.000 Like the actual composition of the country.

01:16:59.000 You always in the United States have to predicate it with like, you know, some economic argument or perhaps that they're just extremely violent, which is true.

01:17:05.000 And those are arguments that I use myself.

01:17:07.000 But even if like they were just top performers, I should still be able to say, like, for example, like the Chinese, maybe, I'd be like, well, yeah, but that still changes my country. 1.00

01:17:13.000 And I would like my country, my kids, my grandkids, the country to look like my country.

01:17:17.000 We're not honest people.

01:17:17.000 That's how I grow up.

01:17:18.000 Like, school choice exists because if I had a choice, you send my kids to a school that's on MLK versus a school that's not on MLK.

01:17:24.000 I mean, I'm definitely choosing the school not on MLK.

01:17:27.000 Yeah, I mean, look, I think the Chinese argument or the China argument is a little different.

01:17:31.000 I think it's a bad example because China's an adversary and every single Chinese person that has family in China, every single Chinese person here that also has family in China is a could be compromised because they will apply pressure to their family, throw them in jail to get the people that are here. 0.94

01:17:47.000 So I understand the point you're making, but when it comes to China, they're absolutely an adversary. 0.97

01:17:52.000 And the idea that they're in any way should be partnered with or anything, it is a terrible idea.

01:17:57.000 Every single Chinese person with family back home is compromised currently.

01:18:02.000 And it should be completely obvious to any serious government that that's the case.

01:18:07.000 So we should do everything we can to make sure that we send Chinese people back to China because they will absolutely be used against us by their own government. 1.00

01:18:16.000 We got to stop apologizing.

01:18:17.000 Like that's the end of this conversation.

01:18:19.000 We have to stop apologizing.

01:18:21.000 We have to understand where we are, how we got here, and do the exact opposite.

01:18:24.000 And we can't be apologetic about it.

01:18:26.000 I know it's going to get messy.

01:18:27.000 People's lives will be lost at the end of this, but what is the alternative?

01:18:31.000 That's the real question is everything has been half measures up to this point.

01:18:34.000 As Phil is even saying, how can we even treat our government as serious if they're not going to expel Chinese students, Chinese nationals who are here? 1.00

01:18:42.000 We know for a fact we just busted a few Chinese nationals smuggling things in and out of the United States, scientific secrets, bringing diseases. 1.00

01:18:51.000 Yeah, yeah, bringing biological weapons or biological material that's dangerous in the United States.

01:18:56.000 This is not some isolated incident.

01:18:57.000 This is a common occurrence, and yet we never address it because we want the money.

01:19:02.000 That's what Trump said, right?

01:19:03.000 Straight up.

01:19:04.000 We need them to fund our universities, which is garbage because obviously we want Americans to go to our universities. 0.99

01:19:10.000 And it's fine if a few of those collapse because ultimately they're just teaching children to hate their parents and to hate America anyway.

01:19:17.000 So ultimately, that wouldn't be some travesty if we lost it.

01:19:20.000 But we can look to a different example.

01:19:22.000 We could look to someone like Japan, who is a true ally, who I think most people would feel very comfortable saying is an advanced and honorable culture.

01:19:30.000 I would say that's a culture worth admiring, but it's still not my culture.

01:19:34.000 I want Japan to be Japanese in 50 years. 1.00

01:19:37.000 And I want America to be American.

01:19:39.000 And that doesn't mean I don't love Japanese culture.

01:19:41.000 I don't think they're awesome.

01:19:42.000 I don't respect it.

01:19:43.000 It just means I respect it so much, I want it to exist.

01:19:46.000 And the same thing's true of the United States.

01:19:48.000 And as you're saying, we should be able to say that.

01:19:50.000 That's okay.

01:19:51.000 We are a people in a place living in a certain way.

01:19:55.000 And there is no reason to pretend that we're the only civilization in history that's entirely abstract, entirely ideological.

01:20:04.000 You can just change out the people and nothing matters.

01:20:06.000 No, I'm sorry.

01:20:07.000 Our culture is great.

01:20:08.000 Our principles are great.

01:20:09.000 Our way of life is great, but it comes from the people.

01:20:13.000 It comes from the tradition we have grown up in.

01:20:17.000 And you cannot simply bring someone from Haiti or Somalia in and just slap them into some American university, give them a social security number, and call it a day.

01:20:26.000 That does not make them an American.

01:20:27.000 We're called the melting pot, right?

01:20:28.000 That's fine.

01:20:29.000 Like, not all immigration is terrible.

01:20:31.000 I think we have some great immigrants here who actually love our country, who escaped communism.

01:20:34.000 I want those.

01:20:35.000 I want those people.

01:20:37.000 I want those people.

01:20:37.000 These people are great, right?

01:20:38.000 But if we are, if we're a melting pot, then we're a solution, right?

01:20:42.000 Our solution, and if there's a faucet of migrants coming in, illegals coming in, you're going to super saturate that solution. 0.90

01:20:48.000 The whole thing has to be titrated, distilled, and then fixed.

01:20:51.000 We're at super saturation.

01:20:52.000 It's time to distill, figure out what makes America, the good parts of America, keep that and get rid of the rest.

01:20:58.000 You got to let it melt.

01:20:59.000 Like, you bring these pieces and parts into the pot, but if it's too many too fast, you got a chunky mess.

01:21:04.000 So you have to spend, people need to homogenize.

01:21:06.000 That's why we say about the individual, you bring one person in, surround them with Americans that are indoctrinating them, 10 years, 15 years, they're probably going to be pretty American.

01:21:06.000 They come in.

01:21:15.000 But if you bring 500 Haitians in and they're surrounding one American, it's a completely inverted scenario where this one guy potentially develops sympathies or become Haitian-minded, you know?

01:21:25.000 Yeah, you get ethnic on eclipse.

01:21:27.000 And like we even had this problem with Ellis Island immigration, like when the Ellis Island wave of immigrants came in, these are coming from countries that were like very close to the United States, culturally speaking, as far as like, I mean, you had Irish, Italians, the only like big, massive difference they had from other Western European countries that they're Catholic, not Protestant.

01:21:40.000 And even they had like a lot of issues assimilating.

01:21:43.000 Like they would create these massive ethnic enclaves, these gangs. 0.69

01:21:45.000 They would have, they basically took over the Democrat Party in a lot of ways.

01:21:48.000 And so we have these massive problems with Ellis Island and we make it out on the other side.

01:21:52.000 And instead of like rubbing our brown and be like, wow, we made it out of that one piece, we're like, no, make it worse and just like expand the definition of who should come here.

01:21:58.000 Well, the problem is every time we bring that up, the left treats that as like, oh, oh, we can assimilate people.

01:22:03.000 Like, that's proof we can assimilate people.

01:22:04.000 No, that's proof that you could just barely assimilate people close to you.

01:22:09.000 We forget the fact that the Germans had to be forced to break up many of their ethnic neighborhoods.

01:22:14.000 They often had to, their kids had to be sent to schools to learn English because they did not want to assimilate.

01:22:19.000 There was an active, like just Germans who we think of as pretty American at this point in the United States were put in internment camps along with the Japanese during World War II for the fear that some of them might be traitors.

01:22:30.000 That's how it wasn't that long ago where these were very foreign people. 0.78

01:22:34.000 And we shut down immigration for like 40 years too, didn't we? 0.98

01:22:36.000 Yeah, previously.

01:22:38.000 It took two wars for them to finally buy their ticket.

01:22:40.000 Like, okay, you have steak here.

01:22:41.000 Like, okay, we got it.

01:22:42.000 These people now literally just rock up.

01:22:44.000 There's like no back, like there's, there's no way for them to actually buy steak in the country in any tangible way.

01:22:48.000 They're just really here to benefit.

01:22:50.000 When you look at it, they have outsized welfare participation.

01:22:53.000 I mean, it's just unbelievable.

01:22:54.000 Everywhere you look, it's just every single argument you could possibly make for mass migration.

01:22:57.000 It just falls flat.

01:22:58.000 I was in like that liberal mind spiral in like 2006, 70, 8.

01:23:02.000 And I was very much, I like culture bonding.

01:23:06.000 I like going to a neighborhood that is not my culture and becoming the culture of that neighborhood and then meeting all the locals and they look up to me and they want to be more like the American.

01:23:15.000 And I love doing that.

01:23:16.000 But now I'm realizing like, so do other people.

01:23:18.000 They love coming here and they love just changing Americans the way I like to change whoever in little Italy or whatever. 1.00

01:23:24.000 Now you're American.

01:23:26.000 So it's a double-edged blade, that desire to change people's culture.

01:23:30.000 Yeah, I was reading online about a Japanese tourist who came to Los Angeles and was really disappointed to find that there was like virtually no Americans at the places he was visiting.

01:23:37.000 And that made me pretty sad because I'm like, I'm so proud of the United States and so proud of my culture and et cetera, that I do want tourists to come here and be like amazed by what we are, what we have and sort of our people and that sort of thing.

01:23:48.000 And I found that story really heartbreaking.

01:23:50.000 Like, you know, black people laughed at this.

01:23:51.000 They're like, wow, that really shows the state Los Angeles is in.

01:23:53.000 I'm like, yeah, because they're not going to, I mean, no offense, but they're not going to visit Nebraska.

01:23:56.000 Like, they're going to visit Los Angeles.

01:23:57.000 They're going to visit New York City.

01:23:58.000 They're going to visit Chicago.

01:23:59.000 These places should be dripping in American culture to where a Japanese person, you know, whoever arrives to visit for a week and they're like blown away by how rich and deep our culture is. 0.99

01:24:09.000 And it's just not happening anymore.

01:24:10.000 I've noticed in tourist spots, though, I travel quite a bit.

01:24:12.000 And like, even when I go to these places that are very tourist type, like, there is not a lot of me there.

01:24:16.000 Right.

01:24:17.000 There's not a lot of me there.

01:24:18.000 And it worries me because, like, is it just because we're working to pay for everyone to be here?

01:24:23.000 Because where are people like me?

01:24:25.000 They're running away, right?

01:24:26.000 Like, this is the key.

01:24:27.000 You got to remember that even the phrase the melting pot is accepting leftist propaganda.

01:24:32.000 Like this was a phrase that was worked out by a Jewish playwright and was adopted by a lot of culturally influenced people.

01:24:38.000 But ultimately, even though Teddy Roosevelt took a look at it, he decided to reject it.

01:24:42.000 He said he wanted something that understood that America was more of a consistent culture.

01:24:47.000 You could still add people to it.

01:24:48.000 It was never the idea that no one could join, but understanding that these people are assimilating to your culture.

01:24:54.000 You're not bringing their culture in. 1.00

01:24:56.000 They have to completely immerse themselves.

01:24:58.000 They have to be completely willing to become part of your group.

01:25:02.000 That's what matters.

01:25:03.000 And so that's the thing that you need to keep in mind.

01:25:05.000 This is why classic immigration, classic assimilation was always considered to be multi-generational.

01:25:11.000 Aristotle and I think Aquanas eventually talked about three-generation immigration and how that allows you to ultimately vet whether or not someone is absorbing the culture.

01:25:21.000 They're going to contribute.

01:25:22.000 They're interested actually assimilating and not just creating some kind of ethnic beachhead.

01:25:26.000 And that's what allows you.

01:25:27.000 It's the time.

01:25:28.000 It's the investment.

01:25:29.000 It's the multi-generational effort.

01:25:31.000 That's what shows that you're somebody who wants to be part of a culture who wants to be an American.

01:25:35.000 Was the formations of little Italy, little whatever, little Korea, all these little homogenized sub-communities?

01:25:43.000 Was that a newer than adaptation?

01:25:46.000 Because it sounds like if Teddy Roosevelt was since the 1800s.

01:25:50.000 Was it just like we have no choice?

01:25:52.000 It actually used to be on a bigger scale.

01:25:54.000 There would be entire regions that were like German speaking, French-speaking.

01:25:58.000 This was on a larger scale.

01:25:59.000 But yeah, you had like Chinatown pockets. 0.98

01:26:01.000 It's always been that way, at least since like the foundation of a lot of these cities.

01:26:04.000 Like San Francisco has always had a Chinatown, these sorts of things.

01:26:06.000 Just because, again, someone arrives here from another country, they're going to want to be, it's a very natural thing.

01:26:10.000 I bet if a bunch of Americans moved to China, we'd probably pack into a little spot. 0.73

01:26:14.000 So you're saying it used to be.

01:26:15.000 Norwegians is still like that. 1.00

01:26:16.000 Yeah.

01:26:17.000 It used to be just like a huge section of foreigners, Germans here, Norwegians here.

01:26:23.000 And this is why you still see the Dutch in certain parts.

01:26:26.000 This is why you still see, you know, these different cultures still manifest themselves in the, you know, the, the, the, the Midwest or, you know, the, the, the Northeast.

01:26:34.000 You can continually see the kind of the ethnic imprint.

01:26:36.000 But the difference is, you know, America was forming at that time and we had to fill a lot of land.

01:26:41.000 We had to conquer.

01:26:42.000 We had an entire nate or entire continent basically that we needed to take over because if we didn't, some other European power was going to do it, right?

01:26:51.000 And so we had to fill that land.

01:26:53.000 That's why you saw so many large waves of immigration, especially as we pushed west, because if we just simply didn't put physical bodies in those areas, I mean, think about what's still happening near the Mexican border, right?

01:27:03.000 We never truly populated those areas.

01:27:06.000 And so in a way, kind of just whether we draw these kind of artificial lines or not, the natural barrier of the people who live there actually dictates who owns what area of any given nation.

01:27:18.000 So we were that way when we were forming, but we're beyond that now.

01:27:21.000 And it's okay to say, this was the way we had to be when we were becoming a nation.

01:27:25.000 But now that we've done that, we're something else.

01:27:27.000 You know, Rome started as a collection of thieves and criminals who came together originally. 0.98

01:27:34.000 I don't think that's how they ultimately define themselves a thousand years later saying, well, we were founded by thieves and criminals.

01:27:39.000 So that's just who we are.

01:27:40.000 They understood that there were different moments in their history.

01:27:44.000 They went from being a kingdom to a republic to an empire.

01:27:47.000 And it's okay as Americans to realize, okay, there was a moment where large-scale immigration and kind of these ethnic enclaves were a part of who we are.

01:27:55.000 But now we have to unify and we have to become something else.

01:27:57.000 And we no longer need to bring in, you know, 20, 30, 40 million people to conquer the frontier.

01:28:03.000 There is no frontier anymore.

01:28:05.000 So we don't have to act that way.

01:28:07.000 So having like a half million Germans on the frontier is just like not the same as like Bengali neighborhoods in the biggest city in our country. 0.92

01:28:13.000 Once we need to populate Mars and we're in a rush to lay bodies down on the surface, we'll just be like, look, we'll send the Haitians. 1.00

01:28:18.000 There we go.

01:28:19.000 We'll send the Haitians. 1.00

01:28:19.000 What's that? 1.00

01:28:20.000 You come to America, we launch you as an American when you land and you're going to pioneer the danger. 1.00

01:28:20.000 That's what I'm saying. 1.00

01:28:25.000 And if you survive, you can have the plot.

01:28:27.000 I want to be in charge of checking the fuel lines.

01:28:29.000 But dude, the Chinese are building robots, a robot that can run around in 44, negative, 44 degrees. 1.00

01:28:34.000 Maybe we could talk about this on the after show, too, to populate Mars.

01:28:36.000 I think they're going full robot population.

01:28:38.000 That could be interesting.

01:28:39.000 They're just going to drop hundreds of thousands of robots and be like, try and take it from us.

01:28:44.000 The Chinese just developed some robot that can walk in negative 44 degree winter for like hundreds of miles at a time.

01:28:50.000 That would be kind of exciting if like the moon just turned into like the Battle Bots TV show and it was just like all the countries dropping in robots.

01:28:56.000 I was like, seeing who can be like, like, who does like the Czech Republic defends like a rock star robot?

01:29:00.000 They're just like cleaning out house up there.

01:29:02.000 That'd be freaking woodwatch.

01:29:04.000 It'll be televised via drone.

01:29:06.000 Oh, dude, people are going to be watching that shit.

01:29:08.000 Yeah, dude.

01:29:09.000 Like, it'll be like cool runnings.

01:29:12.000 Like, Jamaica develops just like an insane robot, has like a week where it's just cleaning house and then it like runs out of fuel. 0.86

01:29:17.000 They build the carpet bot that can like take out a bunch of bots and like next week. 0.96

01:29:21.000 Yeah, like yeah, like Afghanistan develops like the goat bot and this like just blows up. 0.99

01:29:25.000 So the only other thing I'll say about mass immigrant, because I think we might be going to super chats pretty soon.

01:29:29.000 The last thing about the immigration, one thing that we could, we could do with these people as if they're slave servants to be used is replace the birth rate decline. 0.68

01:29:37.000 If we're suffering actually a birth rate decline that some of these people that come here could be used for menial labor or just earn your citizenship through work or something. 1.00

01:29:46.000 So the problem is that that fails every time because the immigrant population's birth rate drops immediately after a generation or two.

01:29:54.000 So bringing those people in makes them low birth rate faster than they replace your lack of birth rate. 0.96

01:30:00.000 So this is always like a temptation, an understandable logical temptation to solve this problem, but it reliably produces the opposite results because not only do these people become less and less likely to replace themselves, even though they had a higher fertility rate when they came in, they also depress the fertility rate of the native population.

01:30:18.000 Studies show repeatedly that higher immigration reduces the native fertility.

01:30:23.000 So not only are you making a devil's bargain in the fact that these people are going to tank their own fertility rate, they're also going to tank yours in the process.

01:30:29.000 Do they generally tank their fertility rate just because they assimilate to a culture that has a low fertility rate?

01:30:34.000 Well, there's a couple things.

01:30:35.000 First, it's modernity.

01:30:36.000 The number one thing that stops fertility, that tanks fertility rates is women's liberation and birth control. 1.00

01:30:41.000 So the minute they have access to those, the fertility rate immediately drops.

01:30:46.000 You also have the problem that immigrants tend to be strivers. 1.00

01:30:50.000 They want to increase their socioeconomic situation.

01:30:54.000 And the classic way to do that is to have fewer children.

01:30:57.000 It's always poor people and rich people who have kids.

01:30:59.000 It's the middle class that usually reduces its fertility rate in order to attempt to climb. 1.00

01:31:04.000 So it's just a nexus of factors that are going to basically destroy your attempts to raise the fertility rate through immigration.

01:31:12.000 Would it cover just the general loss of workforce for like a generation?

01:31:16.000 Sure, but it also creates the problem of we're phasing these jobs out as quickly as we can with AI, right?

01:31:21.000 So like, yes, in theory, you're replacing your workers, but will they have a job long enough for AI not to put them out of business?

01:31:28.000 And when they do, you just brought a bunch of military aged men who are unemployed into your country. 0.95

01:31:33.000 What do they do next?

01:31:33.000 Oh, yeah.

01:31:34.000 Yep.

01:31:34.000 That's where my mind was going to that maybe don't even speak English.

01:31:37.000 Who knows?

01:31:38.000 Deportion.

01:31:39.000 Deporting is the solution.

01:31:42.000 Deportion.

01:31:42.000 Yes.

01:31:43.000 And fixed birth rates, ban porn.

01:31:45.000 And good on the list.

01:31:46.000 Yeah.

01:31:47.000 I was going to say good border security and good optics.

01:31:52.000 Like, you know, don't come.

01:31:54.000 Don't come.

01:31:55.000 That's what Kamala Harris told the world.

01:31:57.000 We don't come, but then we want to fix the burden.

01:31:59.000 Don't Ukraine yet.

01:32:01.000 Okay, yeah.

01:32:03.000 Can you flush this out?

01:32:04.000 Don't come.

01:32:04.000 Right.

01:32:05.000 If you're coming the wrong way.

01:32:08.000 Come the right way.

01:32:09.000 No, that makes sense.

01:32:09.000 Yeah.

01:32:09.000 Okay.

01:32:10.000 That's the message.

01:32:11.000 Trump administration officials watching.

01:32:13.000 You just said ban porn, and you guys are just over here.

01:32:18.000 No, porn should be just stimulating.

01:32:19.000 Listen, I'm going to pull out.

01:32:20.000 It's time to get back to the bottom.

01:32:23.000 Don't go enough either.

01:32:24.000 Like a short temper, a little, you know, there's some more jokes there, too.

01:32:27.000 I'm really disappointed.

01:32:28.000 You guys just skim past that really quickly.

01:32:30.000 Additional medical turnovers.

01:32:33.000 Is this the dwarf lobby coming after you guys? 1.00

01:32:35.000 Big.

01:32:36.000 Big dwarf.

01:32:37.000 Little dwarf, actually.

01:32:38.000 They can't afford the big company quite yet.

01:32:43.000 But no, seriously.

01:32:44.000 Shout out to Peter Danny.

01:32:46.000 We need deporting people. 1.00

01:32:48.000 We need more people deported. 0.99

01:32:49.000 Yeah, we shouldn't be like, this kind of counters like a lot of things we say here at Temkist, but like, as Americans, we shouldn't be forced to have 10 kids apiece just to compete with foreign invaders.

01:33:00.000 We should be able to deport them. 0.99

01:33:01.000 And so if someone has two kids, it's not like the end of the world.

01:33:03.000 I'm just saying, it's kind of crazy.

01:33:05.000 Some of the messaging online is like, let's have a ton of kids to compete with them.

01:33:07.000 And it's like, if you're having kids for political reasons, it's not a good reason to have a kid.

01:33:11.000 Have kids for different reasons.

01:33:12.000 Like, have kids because kids are good.

01:33:14.000 Tax incentives.

01:33:15.000 There you go.

01:33:16.000 But like, to actually, like, to, to, like, the deporting of illegals should be a totally separate issue.

01:33:23.000 We shouldn't say, oh, well, you know, we should have kids, you know, to replace the people that we deported.

01:33:29.000 No, whether or not we have kids, we should deport the people that are here illegally. 1.00

01:33:33.000 It is the solution to all of the problems.

01:33:35.000 Like you said, the mass importation is one of the things that drives down fertility rates. 1.00

01:33:40.000 It increases the cost of health care.

01:33:41.000 It increases the cost of housing.

01:33:43.000 It reduces the ability to properly educate.

01:33:47.000 The school systems get worse.

01:33:48.000 The neighborhoods get more dangerous.

01:33:50.000 Fewer and fewer people are willing to pay the additional cost to move their children out of a suburban area or to educate them in a good school in those areas.

01:33:59.000 It's just everything.

01:34:00.000 It is the fix everything button.

01:34:03.000 Deporting the illegals just fixes everything.

01:34:06.000 All we have to do is have the will to make it happen.

01:34:10.000 Are we moving to questions here?

01:34:12.000 Looks like we're going to have super chats.

01:34:13.000 Yeah, we can if you want.

01:34:14.000 Let's do it.

01:34:16.000 All right here.

01:34:17.000 So it looks like Lolither Red.

01:34:22.000 It's pretty entertaining seeing people spurk out about Tim's It's My Boot I Voted For It comment from the other night.

01:34:29.000 Yeah, what did you guys think about the reaction to that?

01:34:32.000 Some people were supporting it.

01:34:33.000 A lot of people are saying, oh, look, Tim's the authoritarian now, loves it.

01:34:37.000 The people that were critical of it were mostly, you know, kind of Lalbert style people or the left.

01:34:44.000 And I mean, essentially he's right.

01:34:47.000 You know, the people that voted for Donald Trump voted for deportations.

01:34:51.000 They want to see this.

01:34:53.000 So the idea that it's like, oh, you know, you're going to get the boot.

01:34:57.000 Like, no, we're not going to get the boot.

01:34:59.000 All we're asking for is, again, laws that were passed about immigration in a bipartisan manner to be enforced.

01:35:08.000 That's it.

01:35:09.000 It's not like there's some new laws that have been passed.

01:35:12.000 It's not some crazy, weird policy.

01:35:15.000 This is mundane stuff that countries do.

01:35:18.000 There are other countries where if you go into the country illegally, you go to jail for 10 years.

01:35:22.000 There are some places where you get killed.

01:35:24.000 Like if you go to North Korea and they catch you and you're there illegally, they will kill you.

01:35:28.000 Like deporting people, offering to pay people to leave the country is one of the most magnanimous things that any country has ever done. 0.90

01:35:36.000 So the idea that this is somehow beyond the pale because we say we want to actually have border enforcement and make sure that people that are here are only here legally, it's totally ridiculous.

01:35:47.000 The idea that the Trump administration is the boot is actually clown world.

01:35:54.000 So I actually just did a show on this with Jerry Kaufman, who is a he's a libertarian, but he's like one of the few sane libertarians.

01:36:01.000 He's part of the Free State Project.

01:36:02.000 He's great.

01:36:03.000 And he's just like, look, libertarians are bad on this because they see any action by the state as a violation because it's just all ideological abstraction.

01:36:12.000 His point was we are doing real libertarianism by ensuring that we have borders that keep out people who won't want to be libertarian.

01:36:20.000 We have our own policies that drive people away, that disincentivize them to be part of this.

01:36:25.000 He recognizes the importance.

01:36:27.000 You could have a libertarian structure inside as long as you kind of have a nice little authoritarian structure on the outside, keeping the libertarians safe to do their thing.

01:36:35.000 I hope you guys have takes by Jeremy Coffin is he says that he's like, I want people to be able to use heroin.

01:36:42.000 And then if they use heroin in the park, I want Judge Dredd to come and kill them.

01:36:49.000 One of the things that libertarians consistently ignore is the responsibility that comes with liberty.

01:36:54.000 They think that because you want to be free, that there's no responsibilities.

01:36:59.000 And that's not the way liberty works.

01:37:02.000 We're going to let you do what you want, but you do it in public and we're going Singapore on you.

01:37:05.000 Yeah, you know?

01:37:06.000 The rules of engagement have changed.

01:37:07.000 Like, it's not the same game.

01:37:09.000 Like, I'm glad you're enjoying your debates and going back and forth of whose boot is whose, but they're killing us and throwing us in prison.

01:37:15.000 So I'm sorry.

01:37:16.000 We can work it out in post.

01:37:17.000 You know, I really appreciate you saying that because I'm so tired of this.

01:37:20.000 I hear from people, oh, well, it's not a big deal.

01:37:22.000 And you guys are making all these threats up.

01:37:24.000 And you're, you know, you want conflict.

01:37:27.000 You want civil war. 0.73

01:37:28.000 You want, it's like, no, man, I just, you know, you've experienced this.

01:37:32.000 You know that the law is not fair.

01:37:34.000 You know what the two-tier system looks like.

01:37:35.000 You know what it is to be an enemy of the state.

01:37:37.000 And when people don't take that seriously, when they just brush it off, like, oh, the next election will fix that problem.

01:37:42.000 No, you need to be an adult.

01:37:43.000 Like, you're in an existential political struggle.

01:37:46.000 So I don't know.

01:37:46.000 Maybe, you know, put a cup on, get out there, some cleats, make things happen.

01:37:50.000 Don't give me all these excuses to why it's okay for you to sit on the couch and sit this one out yet again.

01:37:56.000 You gave away the entire country this way.

01:37:58.000 Man up and stop lying to yourself.

01:38:00.000 I consider them cowards who would watch their family be executed because they want to keep their convictions.

01:38:05.000 It really, it really is absolutely insane.

01:38:07.000 And I don't have time for it anymore.

01:38:08.000 And I'm so tired of these people pretending that that somehow makes you authoritarian or fascist or whatever.

01:38:13.000 I don't know, man.

01:38:14.000 Is the authoritarian the one who's not dead?

01:38:16.000 Is he not the one whose blood is not like dripping off the wall?

01:38:19.000 Okay, well, then I guess I'm that guy.

01:38:21.000 But, you know, moving on.

01:38:22.000 Yeah, what else you got?

01:38:23.000 Like, you have to know where you are.

01:38:23.000 Right.

01:38:25.000 That's all there is to it.

01:38:26.000 I'm trying to walk this line between, because like I voted for Trump because I wasn't going to vote for the imperialist suggested candidate without any election, you know, Kamal Harris.

01:38:35.000 I'm not voting for that system.

01:38:36.000 I didn't vote.

01:38:36.000 True.

01:38:37.000 I knew Trump's agenda was to do deportations, but that doesn't mean I was giving him a blank check to do whatever you want to those people.

01:38:37.000 I voted.

01:38:43.000 I wasn't like that.

01:38:44.000 I'm like, I want to see what you're going to do.

01:38:45.000 And if you step out of what I think is the line, I'm going to say something about it.

01:38:48.000 But to your point, Orin, about, am I going too authoritarian?

01:38:51.000 Because stuff I want to say, but then I'm like, I feel like as part of a media apparatus, I have an obligation to de-escalate at every turn.

01:39:01.000 I don't know how you guys feel about that.

01:39:03.000 If you aim at that.

01:39:05.000 I'm not accelerating things.

01:39:06.000 I'm showing up to a fire.

01:39:08.000 I mean, that's how I consider it.

01:39:09.000 I'm not throwing accelerant.

01:39:10.000 Things are already on fire.

01:39:12.000 I don't think that what people call accelerationism is a good political strategy.

01:39:19.000 There's confusion between that and actual philosophical understandings of technological accelerations.

01:39:25.000 But what people mean by we'll just make things worse and we'll just stoke the rhetoric until like the real moment comes.

01:39:31.000 Like I said, we don't need to do that.

01:39:32.000 Nobody needs to be an accelerationist, guys.

01:39:34.000 You're there.

01:39:35.000 Like things are already on fire.

01:39:37.000 The fire is already lit.

01:39:38.000 Nobody needs to push us towards that moment.

01:39:41.000 The problem is that people are standing in the middle of fire and saying, this is fine, right?

01:39:45.000 They're just doing the meme.

01:39:46.000 Like that's the problem.

01:39:48.000 I'm not here to tell anyone to make things worse.

01:39:50.000 I'm just asking people to realize where they are and act like an adult instead of hiding their head in the sand.

01:39:55.000 And when I look back, you know, maybe 10 years now, let's say we actually do win.

01:39:58.000 We actually wield power like we should if we want to win this, look back and say, yeah, we probably could have done things a little bit differently.

01:40:04.000 Yes, but I'll be alive to say that and not in prison.

01:40:07.000 So I will take that route.

01:40:08.000 The thing about Franco is he gets to decide whether or not he went too far in getting rid of the communists because he's still around to think about what would have happened if he hadn't gotten rid of the communists.

01:40:18.000 I think about like winning because he said winning.

01:40:20.000 I don't even know what would that look like to you first is my question.

01:40:23.000 And then I'll tell you what I was thinking.

01:40:24.000 Oh, God.

01:40:25.000 Deceit.

01:40:28.000 I get to say whatever I want on Twitter.

01:40:29.000 We'll start there.

01:40:30.000 No, I think strong family values bring back morals, bring back a good economy, good trade deals, secure borders.

01:40:38.000 I think I love open carry, more guns for people. 0.83

01:40:41.000 Yeah, I do think that a significant number, and I'm talking in the tens of millions of people deported, it would look something like victory.

01:40:51.000 I'm like, if I win, what am I winning?

01:40:53.000 Am I sitting on the top of a heap of rubble that I created?

01:40:57.000 I don't want to be that.

01:40:58.000 All of those things will stem down from deportations, right?

01:41:00.000 If you want to talk about having good gun laws in the country, I don't want to arm my enemy. 0.92

01:41:05.000 And maybe that's unconstitutional and I get a lot of crap for that, but I don't want to give my enemy a gun.

01:41:10.000 I don't want to get my enemy gun.

01:41:11.000 He'll shoot me with it.

01:41:12.000 I've seen him.

01:41:13.000 Nice suit, by the way.

01:41:14.000 I mean, like I'm saying, if you deport people, you see now that prices for housing are going down in places across the country because there are fewer people competing for those resources.

01:41:28.000 Everything in basically everything in the United States is a finite resource.

01:41:34.000 There is scarcity.

01:41:35.000 And so the more people that you have competing to buy things, the higher prices go.

01:41:39.000 The more people you have competing to occupy space, the higher prices go.

01:41:44.000 Part of the reason why health care is so expensive is because there are more people that are trying to get the health care from the hospitals.

01:41:52.000 You wait longer in the emergency room.

01:41:55.000 There are people that need services that can't get it because there are more people here trying to compete for them.

01:42:01.000 For instance, there's another one.

01:42:02.000 Yeah.

01:42:02.000 All right, guys, let's hit up a few more of these super chats before we get out of here.

01:42:07.000 We've got Thespius saying, as per Tim Cass's tradition, I'm in the hospital welcoming baby three.

01:42:13.000 That's getting more conservatives to the future of 51st State.

01:42:18.000 Amen.

01:42:18.000 And congratulations.

01:42:20.000 Congratulations.

01:42:20.000 Well done.

01:42:21.000 Continue.

01:42:22.000 Get to work.

01:42:23.000 Now you got to get number four in there.

01:42:24.000 It's all very, you know, very exhausting.

01:42:27.000 Little dude, we got a lot of work to do.

01:42:30.000 As soon as you can start walking or talking or something, like I said, I tell every baby this that's watching the show, get on Twitter, just start letting some tweets fly.

01:42:37.000 VoiceThere text.

01:42:39.000 Yeah, voice text.

01:42:40.000 Get some stats.

01:42:41.000 Kids two years apart.

01:42:43.000 What was that?

01:42:44.000 Kids two years apart is the best way to do it. 0.99

01:42:46.000 What happens is he makes you forget about not sleeping for six months.

01:42:46.000 God is good.

01:42:50.000 And then they're walking around.

01:42:51.000 They say things like, I love you.

01:42:53.000 And it's like, I should do that again.

01:42:54.000 I should just, it was all worth it.

01:42:56.000 I was up at 3:30 this morning.

01:42:59.000 All right, a chat from Trevor saying, as per Tim Kras tradition, my second son, Levi, was just born this morning.

01:43:06.000 I searched the last feature of the show.

01:43:09.000 And all the listeners again, man.

01:43:10.000 Congratulations.

01:43:11.000 Dan, absolutely.

01:43:13.000 Well done.

01:43:14.000 Same piece of advice.

01:43:15.000 Just get grinding, dude. 0.66

01:43:17.000 You don't have to walk, honestly.

01:43:18.000 I think you can sign up for Twitter, but Neural Man.

01:43:20.000 Yeah, you can start his Twitter account now.

01:43:22.000 You know, his name is.

01:43:23.000 You can tell what he means with each baby.

01:43:25.000 Make that baby's first investment and start the Twitter account.

01:43:29.000 You can start creeping that Elon money.

01:43:30.000 Yeah.

01:43:31.000 You just put it directly into the college fund there.

01:43:34.000 Like someone just throws up a banger about it.

01:43:34.000 You can reply to people.

01:43:38.000 I think we need a Patriot fund to replace any given college fund.

01:43:41.000 And they just immediately learn to be Giga Chads and everything. 0.81

01:43:45.000 That's the tried to feed me carrots. 1.00

01:43:50.000 Let's go.

01:43:51.000 I would retweet that.

01:43:52.000 That's really great.

01:43:52.000 Jay Hamblins says, should they release body cam footage each week under the reason of transparency, so the normies get a taste of what ICE goes through on a daily basis, not just when they're being scrutinized?

01:44:05.000 So i'll say this, I have heard I cannot confirm but i've heard there might be an ice version of cops in production somewhere.

01:44:12.000 Uh, so we might get that regular body cam footage.

01:44:14.000 You know some, some of the best of the best out there.

01:44:17.000 I think that would be very entertaining.

01:44:19.000 Yes, we get transparency but, more important, just like a bunch of meth heads in Florida, we get to laugh at them being arrested and that's really what it's all about in the United States.

01:44:26.000 No, we need like a like a Sports Center top 10, like arrests of the week.

01:44:30.000 So like if someone really pulls off like an insane tackle, you have like John Madden doing circles on it like look at the sport by your wall.

01:44:30.000 That would be sick.

01:44:36.000 There he goes.

01:44:37.000 I want him diagramming ice arrests.

01:44:38.000 Yeah look, he takes him out at the knees.

01:44:40.000 That's a beautiful double leg.

01:44:42.000 He follows through.

01:44:43.000 Look at that zip tie right around the arms. 0.58

01:44:45.000 There's no break there.

01:44:46.000 He doesn't hesitate.

01:44:47.000 This guy knows how to execute.

01:44:49.000 That's why he's been the mvp for ICE for three months running.

01:44:52.000 Yeah, like that's what i'm looking at, Super Ice Hall Of Fame.

01:44:55.000 I want the whole thing.

01:44:56.000 That's like someone will make that shooting.

01:44:59.000 They're going to the box and they're looking in there.

01:45:00.000 They're like looking, the wheels are moving, the wheels are.

01:45:03.000 It's gonna be close.

01:45:04.000 To call on the field is a clean shoot.

01:45:06.000 So I think that's gonna stand, but it looks like a tough one here.

01:45:08.000 You see the wheels spin and she's been.

01:45:11.000 Can someone work?

01:45:11.000 Can we get that?

01:45:12.000 Yeah, there's a guy that does that with with crime, like Steve Ammo taking out criminals, do you?

01:45:16.000 But it's got to be like a like a high level.

01:45:19.000 He thinks he's coming in hard.

01:45:20.000 Oh, he laid him out.

01:45:22.000 It's like UFC style, but this would be more Steve A Mom right?

01:45:25.000 Yeah, ICE has lost 15 yards last few.

01:45:27.000 You know it's been struggling.

01:45:29.000 You know they lost a few in the offseason.

01:45:31.000 Officer got run over his toes.

01:45:33.000 Uh, you know we're hoping we get him back in that crucial position.

01:45:36.000 Till then, we're gonna play clean ball, though we're gonna make sure, you know, like that's great Movino's out of Minnesota coaching Carousel, this one lost a fingertip.

01:45:44.000 He's got to learn how to shoot left-handed now.

01:45:46.000 Yeah, we got to move him to left tackle.

01:45:48.000 He can't move right.

01:45:49.000 Yeah like yeah, this is a job training ice agents for picks.

01:45:53.000 All right, we've got uh, Awesome Rufflo, uh 1804.

01:45:56.000 Here he says, can we deport the activist judges that went to block the end of the Haitian uh protected status to Haiti and keep the uh I don't know how to pronounce that of a woman here uh, pretty please.

01:46:09.000 Uh yeah, I mean obviously uh, activist judges can just head on out with the rest of them. 0.99

01:46:13.000 I think that uh ultimately the the, the Trump administration is probably going to come to that moment where they have to make a decision to break with the courts.

01:46:21.000 Uh, and that will be a very difficult moment.

01:46:24.000 Obviously, they want to stay within those bounds as long as possible.

01:46:27.000 They need a very egregious action by a judge to make any of that in any way justifiable, and that's something that they're going to have to choose, probably at some point, but I think they're going to play it inside the lines.

01:46:39.000 As long as they can yep, All right, let's see what else we got here.

01:46:47.000 We've got Wolf saying all the solutions are TOS violations and yet our supposed base patriots won't even risk those TOS violations, let alone actually enact said solution.

01:46:58.000 Why exactly should we bother voting again?

01:47:01.000 Yes, it is very smart to do things that get your YouTube channel taken off of YouTube.

01:47:06.000 That's very smart.

01:47:07.000 So funny thing about the last election, guess what?

01:47:09.000 The border is closed.

01:47:12.000 You have basically zero immigration happening right now.

01:47:15.000 You have deportations that would never be happening under Kamala Harris.

01:47:19.000 The J6ers are free. 1.00

01:47:21.000 I hear some people in this room might care a little bit about the election.

01:47:24.000 So I don't know.

01:47:25.000 Like, I hear you.

01:47:26.000 Like, I'm an anti-democracy guy.

01:47:27.000 I think democracy is stupid.

01:47:29.000 I can't wait till it goes away.

01:47:31.000 But while it is still our legitimating, like, you know, the way that we ultimately decide who's going to be in charge of the government, at least theoretically, then we do have to care about elections.

01:47:41.000 It doesn't change everything.

01:47:42.000 It's not a fix-all solution, but it still matters.

01:47:45.000 And it's a relatively low effort way to like use your political power.

01:47:50.000 So at the very least, get out there and vote for the guy who's going to give you deportations, a closed border, and freed political prisoners.

01:47:56.000 Maybe he doesn't give you everything you want.

01:47:57.000 Maybe he does some things you don't like.

01:47:59.000 Maybe you go around saying those things and telling people why those are bad.

01:48:03.000 But I just don't understand why you'd say, no, those things just don't matter at all.

01:48:06.000 I'd ask what it is you think he's not doing yet.

01:48:08.000 I mean, we did just raid Fulton County.

01:48:10.000 That's very exciting to me.

01:48:11.000 That's very true.

01:48:12.000 That is very exciting to me.

01:48:13.000 The thing is, there are not people in shackles right now.

01:48:17.000 That's really the thing.

01:48:18.000 Like they look at the situation with J6 and they're like, well, they had a bunch of people in chains right away.

01:48:24.000 Why hasn't Donald Trump done that?

01:48:26.000 And whereas I understand that frustration, if you just arrest people without having all of the evidence put together, especially if you're talking about RICO charges or something, some big stuff, if you just arrest people and you don't put, you know, they get found not guilty, you can't arrest them again.

01:48:44.000 We have a law that says in the Constitution, it says you can't be tried for the same crime twice.

01:48:50.000 So if they fail, if they arrest people and fail, they lose the opportunity.

01:48:55.000 And I understand there are people like, oh, they're not going to do anything.

01:48:58.000 But just like Oren was saying, this is like things are night and day better than they were under Joe Biden.

01:48:58.000 Like, I get it.

01:49:05.000 Things would be incredibly terrible if we had Kamala Harris. 1.00

01:49:09.000 It would be everything that Joe Biden did on 10.

01:49:12.000 So I understand people being frustrated, but there have been victories.

01:49:17.000 And to blackpill when we've had a lot of victories kind of seems silly to me.

01:49:23.000 Arresting these people is a lot more difficult than arresting a couple of, you know, just regular nine to five or two.

01:49:28.000 I mean, it's going to take a lot more court pressure.

01:49:30.000 It's going to take a lot better investigation.

01:49:31.000 Like, again, like when you arrest these 1,600 people, most of them don't have the $100,000 to buy an attorney to help them fight charges.

01:49:38.000 They'll just take whatever plea deal they get while they're rotting in prison.

01:49:41.000 That was the point that I made earlier.

01:49:42.000 When you go after the small fish, you get way more out of it by arresting the average Joe that isn't a wealthy guy that isn't politically connected.

01:49:50.000 It's much harder to go after people that are politically connected.

01:49:52.000 Not saying they don't deserve it.

01:49:54.000 Not saying that I don't want to see it, but to blackpill over it and say, they're not going to do anything.

01:49:59.000 He's terrible.

01:50:00.000 It's so bad.

01:50:01.000 When honestly, there have been significant advances for the right.

01:50:05.000 I think that's a bad attitude to have.

01:50:07.000 And I don't want the fodder either.

01:50:08.000 Like, I don't want the low-hanging fruit as well either, right?

01:50:10.000 Because they can just say, oh, we did arrest people in connection to January 6th, in connection to the election.

01:50:15.000 I don't want that.

01:50:16.000 I'd rather be patient and wait.

01:50:16.000 That's not a win to me.

01:50:18.000 Kyle Doris here says, Oren, I have a question for you.

01:50:21.000 I go to church and I like Christians, but I'm not a man of faith.

01:50:27.000 Why do you have faith?

01:50:28.000 I feel too angry to believe.

01:50:30.000 Well, let me tell you this, man.

01:50:32.000 I'm very lucky.

01:50:33.000 I grew up in the church.

01:50:34.000 My parents had us there every time the door was open.

01:50:38.000 The faith is the faith of my fathers.

01:50:41.000 I've believed since I was young, and I can't imagine anything else.

01:50:44.000 The world has always been enchanted for me in a way that I know it isn't for a lot of people in modernity.

01:50:49.000 And that's not something I did or I achieved.

01:50:51.000 That's just a blessing that God gave me.

01:50:53.000 That said, if you're wondering how can you believe, you know, C.S. Lewis was a brilliant man who ran from God for a very long time.

01:51:00.000 And it wasn't until JRO Tolkien and several other very intelligent guys at Oxford came together and told him about how important it was that he pursued a relationship with Christ, that he believed in Christianity, that he ultimately found that it wasn't just the idea of some kind of, you know, academic problem, that actually those solutions came very quickly.

01:51:20.000 It was ultimately his resistance to faith, his wanting to fight against God, that was keeping him apart.

01:51:26.000 And I just think that, if you know, Tolkien and C.S. Lewis ultimately can believe in God, you can too.

01:51:31.000 They're pretty smart guys.

01:51:33.000 So it's it's both an intellectual journey and a philosophical journey, but most importantly, it is a journey of real faith.

01:51:39.000 It sounds like you're in a church.

01:51:41.000 It sounds like you want to learn and you want to believe.

01:51:43.000 Those are the first steps man you, you know you you, you walk, and then you run, you ask god for you know that faith and eventually, I believe, it will be delivered to you.

01:51:52.000 You have to knock, but the door gets open.

01:51:54.000 So I think you're doing a great job.

01:51:55.000 Keep doing what you're doing.

01:51:57.000 God will continue to chase you no matter, no matter where you are.

01:52:00.000 Yeah, if you're looking for him, he will find you.

01:52:02.000 He's been looking for you.

01:52:03.000 I can tell you only through my stuff.

01:52:04.000 Um, I was a pastor for a couple years and not a single church reached out to me and my family in our very difficult time.

01:52:11.000 And you know, who didn't abandon me was God.

01:52:13.000 Uh, through all of my process I had go, I had my faith and that was enough.

01:52:17.000 So you know, if you're, if you're looking for him, he will find you if you want, if you want to be found, and he'll never let you go.

01:52:22.000 So keep looking.

01:52:23.000 Yeah man, i'm not a Christian, I don't adhere to earth religions, but God seems to be real.

01:52:28.000 I don't know what it is, but it's like the spiraling vortex at the center of every proton and galaxy and universe, like it's this fractal re, you know resonation reverberation refractation, whatever.

01:52:37.000 It's just repetitive cycle that's reversing entropy, as far as I can tell, I don't know, seems to be real.

01:52:43.000 I'm just depressed.

01:52:44.000 Here we just call him Jesus Sign.

01:52:45.000 Yeah, it's yeah, Jesus Sign.

01:52:47.000 I grew up southern Baptist, it's kind of the same thing.

01:52:51.000 Uh, Delaware Huskier here says thanks, Ian.

01:52:54.000 Uh Lang uh, language.

01:52:56.000 Electric cars are not electric.

01:52:58.000 The batteries are only a fuel tank.

01:53:00.000 They are coal and gas powered cars.

01:53:02.000 I think it depends on where you are.

01:53:05.000 You have a Tesla, is there you're talking about?

01:53:06.000 You said electric cars are not electric.

01:53:08.000 Most of the electricity in the United States is generated by coal or or whatever, but there are places that that have nuclear and and.

01:53:16.000 Uh, if you have like solar panels on your house and a battery in your house, or actually just solar panels on your house and you plug your car in, then that'll be getting it directly from the sun.

01:53:25.000 Most excited for when they can make graphene bodies that are solar panels and the car itself will charge fast enough to power it.

01:53:32.000 That should be within the next 10 years, should be?

01:53:36.000 I don't know.

01:53:37.000 I've just made that up.

01:53:39.000 I'm an optimist 50 years later.

01:53:42.000 Source, who do we envy you in a dream strategy graphene.movie.

01:53:47.000 Check it out, I love it source.

01:53:49.000 I just made it up.

01:53:50.000 Yeah uh, handy man here says, uh tax, Tax incentives in Hungary, let's see, tax incentive is what Hungary did to increase birth rates.

01:54:00.000 Yeah, and there's mixed results on that.

01:54:01.000 Some show that you see a bump, but it doesn't create long-term benefits.

01:54:08.000 I think that we should economically orient ourselves to having families and having children.

01:54:13.000 We should stop treating Americans as the individual being the most important unit, instead recognize that families are what create the future of the country and we should make our investments there.

01:54:22.000 That said, all the tax code fixes, all the financial fixes, they're great, but nothing replaces a people who sees a future for themselves, who understands themselves as a collective entity working towards something.

01:54:35.000 They want to see themselves reflected in the future.

01:54:37.000 That's what ultimately gets people to have children.

01:54:41.000 Oswald Spangler said that once a civilization has to ask the question, should we have children?

01:54:47.000 Civilization is basically over.

01:54:48.000 Because once children stop being a natural rhythm, a natural outcome, the telos of your civilization, it starts to find reasons not to have them and ultimately dies off.

01:54:58.000 So I agree with you that the tax incentives are a good move, but they're not a final way to fix this issue.

01:55:04.000 They're ultimately something that is only a stepping stone to understanding that you should be working to further your nation and your understanding of the future as a people who want to see their way of life continue.

01:55:14.000 Yeah.

01:55:15.000 And I mean, Hungary might have been an exception because, I mean, South Korea, Japan have been trying similar strategies and their birth rates are continuing to decline.

01:55:23.000 Netherlands also did this.

01:55:25.000 The Netherlands.

01:55:25.000 So it's like, yeah, to Oron's point, I mean, it's a civilizational question.

01:55:29.000 And also, like, what exactly caused the birth rate to decline in the first place?

01:55:33.000 Those are tougher conversations to have because they revolve around things like feminism and these sorts of things. 0.99

01:55:38.000 So it's, again, it's just you're kind of putting a bandit on a bullhole.

01:55:41.000 Like what I'm saying, it's still worth it.

01:55:42.000 I mean, it's still absolutely worth reorienting, again, government incentive structures for procreation.

01:55:47.000 But at the end of the day, like these are going to be more philosophical questions that need to be answered.

01:55:52.000 How should women sort of fit into society and these sorts of things? 1.00

01:55:55.000 Convincing women that the ultimate form of woman is to emulate a man has been a disaster for Western society.

01:56:03.000 Yeah, literally.

01:56:04.000 Women are watching Monday Night Football now. 1.00

01:56:06.000 Yeah.

01:56:07.000 That is crazy.

01:56:08.000 They're drinking beer.

01:56:09.000 They've got high-waisted jeans.

01:56:11.000 I know.

01:56:11.000 I've gone too far.

01:56:12.000 What's going on?

01:56:13.000 Dude, I saw a woman talking on NASCAR the other day. 1.00

01:56:15.000 Oh, God.

01:56:17.000 I know.

01:56:17.000 We're circling the drain.

01:56:18.000 She was sitting in her Subaru.

01:56:22.000 Wolf374171 says Trump was too boomer to lock her up last time.

01:56:27.000 I doubt he'll do it this time either.

01:56:29.000 Wake me up when something happens.

01:56:32.000 Well, we did see them arrest Don Lemon and several other people who entered a church.

01:56:37.000 We are seeing that they're trying to crack down on this more.

01:56:39.000 You're right.

01:56:39.000 I think ultimately they should go after more high-profile, corrupt elites.

01:56:44.000 But as we pointed out earlier, I just don't think Hillary Clinton is worth it at this point. 0.69

01:56:49.000 Does she deserve it? 0.82

01:56:50.000 But it's, again, a question of political capital, as I think many different gentlemen on this panel pointed out simultaneously, bagging somebody like Tim Walz, but I think send a far stronger message.

01:56:50.000 Absolutely.

01:57:01.000 Someone who's in the zeitgeist, who's obviously guilty of being involved, very likely, allegedly, in fraud and all of these things, facilitating that behavior.

01:57:12.000 I think that ultimately that's what we should be aiming for.

01:57:15.000 I get the frustration, but the Trump administration is taking action.

01:57:18.000 We encourage them to take more action, just sitting there and go, nothing ever happens.

01:57:22.000 I think that's just a way to blackpill.

01:57:24.000 I think that's a way to try to be right all the time instead of invest in things that should actually be happening.

01:57:29.000 Yeah, perma bears are right once in a while, but they're just still just perma bears, right?

01:57:34.000 You know, if you're constantly saying that the sky is falling, then eventually, you know, when something bad happens, you can just be like, oh, see, I was right, I was right.

01:57:42.000 And you never have to deal with the fact that you're wrong all the time until you're right, you know.

01:57:48.000 Guys, have you ever realized that you spent all your time learning how to take off in the plane, but you never discussed how to land it?

01:57:54.000 Well, we're going to end up here.

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01:58:45.000 Oh, yeah.

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02:03:46.000 We're going to talk about the Artemis II project, which is happening the end of this week, I believe.

02:03:52.000 It's the first manned mission to the moon.

02:03:55.000 Now we're not landing on the moon, but it's the first manned mission to the moon by the U.S. in 50 years.

02:04:01.000 And Adam has ideas about whether or not we went to the moon in the first place.

02:04:04.000 So we'll get into that a little bit.

02:04:06.000 But to start off, Artemis 2 SLS wet dress rehearsal.

02:04:10.000 The latest news: NASA fuels a giant moon rocket in a test.

02:04:14.000 Wet chess rehearsal.

02:04:15.000 You know, NASA is just days away from its first chance to launch Artemis 2, the first astronaut mission to the moon since 1972, and will attempt a critical test for the lunar flight on Monday, February 2nd.

02:04:26.000 So that was today.

02:04:28.000 Ahead of the first launch window for Artemis 2, which runs from February 8th to February 11th, NASA will complete a mission countdown simulation to power on and fuel the Space Launch System rocket.

02:04:37.000 Operators were called the station Saturday evening, about 49 hours ahead of simulated T-Zero, currently scheduled for Monday at 9 p.m.

02:04:45.000 See our complete coverage for critical test here.

02:04:47.000 So it's been a long time since we've been to the moon.

02:04:51.000 If you believe in that sort of thing, I do.

02:04:53.000 Don't get any weird ideas.

02:04:56.000 But do you guys think that the United States building a base on the moon?

02:05:01.000 Because that's what this is in preparation for.

02:05:04.000 They're going to go travel around the moon, and they're going to land again.

02:05:07.000 They're going to start building a base on the moon in order to be a launch point to get to Mars, right?

02:05:11.000 That's the idea.

02:05:13.000 We get a base on the moon.

02:05:15.000 It's easier to launch from the moon to go to Mars than to launch from the Earth.

02:05:19.000 Do you guys think that this is a worthwhile endeavor?

02:05:22.000 Do you think that this is a new frontier that people should, that the United States should be pushing, or do you think that this is a waste of time?

02:05:29.000 I think it's very America of us.

02:05:31.000 You know, we like to go into a place and kick out the inhabitants.

02:05:33.000 We came to America, cooked out the Native Americans. 1.00

02:05:35.000 We're going to go to the moon and kick out the Anunnaki. 1.00

02:05:38.000 Yeah, I know.

02:05:39.000 This scares the shit out of me.

02:05:40.000 Going to the moon.

02:05:41.000 No, this whole flight, because I think you're old enough, right?

02:05:45.000 Where you watch the astronauts literally explode in space.

02:05:48.000 Do you know that that wasn't the only time?

02:05:50.000 I know.

02:05:50.000 Look, it's scary.

02:05:51.000 That was televised.

02:05:52.000 I pictured that.

02:05:53.000 There was a black dude on board.

02:05:54.000 Sorry to interrupt, Sean.

02:05:55.000 I got to say this part because this has been messing with me since third grade.

02:05:58.000 I pictured his skin, and it was like black man's skin.

02:06:01.000 It was darker skin floating through space after the rocket exploded. 0.99

02:06:04.000 It's pictured like body pieces.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - February 03, 2026

THEY CAN'T HIDE ANYMORE | Timcast IRL #1440

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