Voter ID has passed the House of Representatives, but every Democrat is against it. Plus, a Mexican cartel drone incursion near El Paso, Joe Rogan's reaction to the Epstein e-mail files, and more!
00:03:52.000Mexican cartel drone incursion near El Paso shutting down the airport.
00:03:57.000Some conflicting reporting where CBS is, I think it was CBS reporting, that it was actually a balloon, but we've got still more reporting from credible sources that, no, this is a Mexican cartel drone incursion shutting things down.
00:08:20.000I was like, no, that can't be like that.
00:08:22.000There's an M that should be like a K. Yo, but let me tell you, like, there was an old Asian lady next to me when Bad Bunny came out and she was like, what is this?
00:09:33.000Here's a story from CNBC: The Save Act House advances Trump-backed voter ID bill.
00:09:39.000The Save America Act, supported by President Donald Trump, would require proof of citizenship to register to vote and a photo ID at the ballot box.
00:09:47.000The legislation would make it harder to vote.
00:09:49.000Democrats and voting rights groups warn and has been the subject of a pressure campaign from the White House congressional GOP hardliners and right-wing influencers.
00:09:58.000Now that the bill has advanced out of the House, it has slim odds of passing in the Senate where 60 votes are needed to overcome a filibuster.
00:11:39.000If you want to fly in this country, if you want to have right of mobility to be able to fly on an airplane, you need either a passport, which requires all sorts of identification to get, or one of the real IDs, which is also requiring birth certificates.
00:11:53.000And by the way, if you got married, you have to show your marriage certificate, which this is crazy, by the way, because my wife, you know, I tested this out.
00:13:41.000I look, I don't like the idea of like cops stopping everybody in like papers, please, but it's not that big a deal for a cop to be like, you know, we're just, we're looking for somebody of an ID.
00:13:57.000Like, it is the most normal thing in the developed world to say, we've got to see an ID to make sure that you are who you are and that you're eligible to vote.
00:14:06.000The only reason to not, and everybody's been saying this, you know, ubiquitously on X, but the only reason to not is because you're looking for ways to cheat.
00:15:38.000My point is, could you imagine if it's like, hey, guys, for lunch day at the office, I'm ordering a whole bunch of Buffalo Wild Wings, but not for the black employees because that would be racist.
00:15:57.000Someone making a meme video where there's a bunch of Democrats on the faces of animals does not mean that Trump intentionally depicted the Obamas only as apes and then insulted them as if they were.
00:16:47.000If the argument from Democrats is that women don't know how to change their names, which is like a standard thing every woman does when they get married, then every good woman.
00:17:20.000You know, we should just make sure that we're near the voting booth.
00:17:23.000The funniest thing about this, too, though, is that when you look at, when you look at actual demographics in just any post-election poll, any exit poll, you're going to see married women typically tend to vote more Republican to begin with.
00:17:38.000Yes, that's correlation, not causation.
00:17:40.000Perhaps, but conservative women are more likely to get married.
00:17:43.000Well, because they're more likely, of course, of course.
00:17:45.000But my point being is, so if married women were to the, it was to the detriment for voter ID, then conservatives actually thought that was a problem.
00:17:54.000Then wouldn't we be the ones shooting ourselves in the foot if we're for voter ID?
00:17:58.000Like, wouldn't it benefit the liberals to have voter ID then?
00:18:01.000Because it would disproportionately affect conservative women.
00:18:33.000And then he's going to be like, well, of course they can figure it out.
00:18:34.000Oh, so there's no problem with voter ID then.
00:18:36.000So Scott Adams used to talk about this.
00:18:38.000And, you know, I don't know if you've seen the whole controversy with AI, Scott Adams.
00:18:42.000It's like this whole, it's huge back and forth thing.
00:18:46.000Well, let me say the first part for that where he used to say that the way the way you can defeat bad arguments is through like aggressive agreement with them.
00:18:53.000Just aggressively agree with everything and then push it as far as possible.
00:19:39.000And the Republicans, they're trying to take away women's right to vote because they know women are just generally not that intelligent relative to men, of course.
00:19:48.000So now you've entered their arguments on their side and then made a point in their argument they cannot agree with, creating an extreme.
00:19:56.000Then when they say, well, I don't know about all of that, you give them what's called the turn, which is a solution in your direction where you say, okay, well, I guess you're right.
00:20:06.000I mean, women are smart enough to figure out how to vote even with an ID.
00:20:15.000That was, we, we had this back in, I want to say it was 2020 or 2021 when, you know, like peak woke era, my church at one point, for whatever crazy reason, had put out this email and they were saying, oh, we're going to be setting up like a racism council at the church.
00:21:12.000And I was like, this is going to be great.
00:21:13.000I'm going to create all these rules and like strictly enforce them that if you're, if you're like a white family and you're not sitting close enough to a family of color, like there's going to be a problem.
00:21:23.000And I come out with like a like a yardstick and be like, oh, this is not close enough.
00:23:12.000Well, to throw it out, because I did mention it, so this, the controversy right now over AI Scott Adams and the estate is totally against it.
00:23:21.000However, we don't know exactly who it is.
00:23:25.000There's this AI Scott Adams show, which has been running.
00:23:30.000And people were, you know, I shared it once because.
00:23:33.000Oh, they're like making videos of him or something?
00:23:35.000Well, it's like they're keeping the show going.
00:23:37.000And he had said a number of times that he had wanted his, you know, his likeness to be used publicly.
00:23:46.000And he said, and he said a couple of times, like many times over the years, that I want to be the first AI entity that goes on in perpetuity.
00:23:54.000And so someone actually took him up on it.
00:23:56.000However, towards the end, when he knew his health was fading, he did also come out and say, I'm not sure if I want to do this anymore because I don't know if AI is ready for it.
00:24:05.000And so he said, you know, maybe we just do something where it's like a Scott Jr., a son of Scott, but it's not actually me.
00:24:13.000And so there's this huge controversy over it because the estate has asked him to stop, but the guy is going to those other, you know, permissions when he gave them on air and saying, well, look, he said this so many times.
00:24:25.000And so what's crazy, though, is it on X or something?
00:24:28.000It's yeah, if you just AI Scott Adams on X and no spaces or anything.
00:24:33.000And what's crazy, though, is the guy has the AI Scott Adams debating whether or not he should exist.
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00:25:51.000Well, I remember that on this show, there was an AI voice minute, a voice replicator of Joe Rogan.
00:25:59.000The first time this was ever done, it was a university that released this model where you could type something in and make Joe Rogan say it.
00:26:04.000And then I think they disabled it right away because they were like, okay, this is bad.
00:26:07.000And then a bunch of companies came out using that model.
00:26:09.000And now you can literally clone anybody.
00:27:59.000That it can't replicate my speech patterns, cadence, or sound of my voice, because if it could, I could just have Tate do everything for me forever and I could just leave with my chickens and he could literally just go on Grok and be like, write a Tim Pool script.
00:28:16.000Then he can upload it to 11 labs and click send.
00:28:18.000And then it would just be a video of me every morning.
00:28:20.000We should be doing a Korean language model.
00:29:01.000So we were actually looking at AI services because we were like, hey, if we do, you know, Timcast Spanish, Timcast French or whatever, it might not be a ton of viewership, but viewers are viewers.
00:29:11.000And then we actually got some samples because they're automated services.
00:29:14.000You just upload it and press go and it's done.
00:29:30.000Yeah, apparently now YouTube has integrated language stuff.
00:29:33.000Well, the one other one, and of course he said no, but when Bannon went to jail in 2024, we pointed out that we could create an AI Bannon to do War Room while he was adamantly opposed.
00:30:16.000And then what you do is you use a video generator and you just say, I got to be honest, you could get one of these agents like Phil's talking about and say, I need a 20-minute long video based on this script, show examples and articles.
00:31:44.000I mean exponential shifts in capability.
00:31:46.000Systems that once struggled to complete basic sentences are now writing code, generating realistic video, analyzing legal documents, diagnosing medical images and operating autonomous systems in real time.
00:31:55.000In the early 2020s, AI models were mostly reactive tools.
00:31:58.000You give them a prompt, they produce text, that was it.
00:32:01.000Now we're seeing multimodal systems, models that can understand, this is crazy.
00:32:05.000I don't need, I could, you know what I'm gonna do?
00:32:07.000I'm just gonna go in the 11 labs and I'm gonna be like, I'm Tim Poole, here's my voice, hit me, and then I'm gonna take this and I'm gonna be like, write a 20-minute long script.
00:32:14.000And then I'm gonna, here's, here's the issue.
00:32:16.000There are channels already doing this.
00:32:19.000They'll generate 40-minute long news reports.
00:32:22.000They'll take like 10 news articles, load them into an AI and say, convert these stories into a single news podcast.
00:32:29.000Then they'll do one of these fake person generators and they'll get like a young looking woman and she'll just be sitting there and it looks like she's in a bedroom and she'll be saying like, hey guys, so recently Mexico announced that they were going to resist any effort from the Trump administration and then they uploaded these videos get like 800 views.
00:32:47.000That's nothing, but they're uploading tens of thousands of them per week and they're getting an estimated like I there was one video announce I saw someone posted the back end on their channel is 150k and they did because they were trying to market their service saying I can teach you how to make this money off YouTube.
00:33:03.000The problem is just like with X, it means all of the YouTubers revenue is dropping dramatically.
00:33:09.000This is going to result in a world where only Ubiquiti sponsors are going to make money.
00:34:46.000And the replies are what generates revenue.
00:34:48.000All of a sudden, people noticed their payments were dropping dramatically.
00:34:51.000People then found this network, complained to X, and said, these are fake accounts, not making real content or engagement, and they're pulling money out of the pool for actual creators.
00:35:00.000X said, okay, we're going to fix this.
00:35:02.000The problem we have right now, YouTube needs to ban AI generated content like this.
00:35:30.000And one of the other things that I've thought of as well, and I've tweeted this a few times, is, look, X is a global site, of course, but not all companies are global.
00:35:42.000And obviously, consumers are not global, right?
00:35:46.000Customers are a physical person who lives in a physical place.
00:35:50.000So wouldn't it make sense then that if you're an advertiser, if you're trying to target a certain market, you're not trying and you don't want your ad going to different countries.
00:36:00.000You could choose, obviously, where you want your ad to run.
00:36:03.000But then also, also, that if your traffic is from another country, then shouldn't the advertisers, advertising go out at the rate of the market rate in that country versus your own country?
00:37:02.000The Russia up, like, like, why would that be?
00:37:05.000You could write a little better than this.
00:37:06.000I noticed Tom Cruise's height is oscillating.
00:37:08.000Sometimes he's like, how did they make it?
00:37:11.000But that's also accurate because it does the same thing in real movies.
00:37:13.000Bro, have you seen the video of the old Indian guy, the old bald Indian guy saying, my wife thinks I'm a successful businessman, but I actually use AI to make an OnlyFan with 1.3 million?
00:37:22.000And he's in a suit and he's going like this.
00:37:25.000And then it shows the AI rendered video of a young girl in a skirt dancing.
00:37:44.000So did you see the video of the guy in his car screaming, so I took that and then I took a picture of Adam Johnson, the lectern guy, and I made him doing it.
00:39:45.000Tim, what if they're not rendering things from AI?
00:39:51.000What if they're actually just going into different versions of the past alternate pasts and bringing the videos forward?
00:39:58.000Well, what I said was, how would you know?
00:40:00.000If energy cannot be created or destroyed, only changed, then when we imagine in our minds a story, we are not imagining, we're actually seeing into an alternate reality.
00:41:25.000But thinking that you think about it, though, think about the amount of people and time it would take just a couple of years ago to make something like this.
00:43:00.000They could, if they wanted to, give us the ability to add fighting and a whole bunch of other mechanisms.
00:43:07.000The reason I know is because not only can you make a game where you're Robocop, you can also make driving games, you can make flying games, and I rendered Planet Namek with the character Goku.
00:43:19.000And I had Goku running around and he jumped.
00:43:21.000I then accidentally pressed spacebar again, and Goku did a like, yeah, not his face.
00:43:27.000He almost started flying, and it showed a burst of energy come out of Goku as if it could have done it, but then it stopped him, froze, and then aired.
00:46:30.000It's about in the future, a group of black people are angry that white people stole their artifacts, so they go on a heist to steal it all from museums.
00:46:40.000It had 57 players at peak on today's launch.
00:46:44.000So my point is, everyone's been complaining about how bad video games are.
00:47:29.000I don't think Gemini has the emotional intelligence to understand why it should not render this, but it's going to be like, I don't see anything wrong with it.
00:48:26.000My prediction is that video games and movies are going to be like following someone on X. You're going to be like, oh, bro, Tate makes the best games.
00:51:55.000You, you know what you still need the individual for is for that creative spark at the beginning.
00:52:01.000Because I don't, I, I, it doesn't know why a Templar in Dearborn is interesting and going to be, but it doesn't know that why there would there be a market for that.
00:53:43.000You fused 880,000 gallons of fake blood, making the biggest, the bloodiest movie ever filmed.
00:53:51.000And, you know, when we put out a bunch of songs, and every time we do, for some reason, they gave us a fake reason why they weren't going to track it.
00:54:00.000They weren't going to put it on Billboard.
00:54:03.000When we did a press release for one of our song releases, we got back emails from these major newspapers, like the press release saying, you know, Tim Poole released a song with Pete Parada.
00:54:14.000They replied back with Go F Yourself, stuff like that.
00:54:18.000That is what is wrong with these people.
00:54:20.000I'll tell you that in putting together the halftime show, we ran up against this as well.
00:54:26.000And there were times where we went up for venues or certain times.
00:54:31.000And, oh, we're not going to work with you because you're turning point or, you know, you have to imagine people are, you know, don't want to go up against the NFL, don't want to go.
00:54:40.000Did you see the fake story they ran right before the halftime show?
00:54:52.000And I'm looking at it going, well, I don't want to respond to this, but he's obviously not dropped out because he's the star of this story went up just before the Super Bowl.
00:55:05.000Kid Rock Festival cancels several tour dates after artists drop out.
00:55:08.000One band says it wants to unite, not divide.
00:55:11.000And so I'm at MGM on the day before the Super Bowl.
00:55:17.000And I said, someone brought up Bad Bunny, and I sit at a poker table.
00:55:22.000And then I asked everybody, I was like, you guys excited for this?
00:55:53.000It's a separate thing, which, and by the way, again, though, this is how the industry was working to chop block us at every turn, working to, you know, oh, we're not going to give you these rights.
00:56:07.000We're not going to give you those rights.
00:56:08.000You can't broadcast on this song on X. You can't do this.
00:56:46.000So, okay, there's a bunch of videos where people during the show filmed the crowd and the crowd's not dancing.
00:56:52.000That is not the most interesting video.
00:56:54.000Someone filmed the actual set of the halftime show and you can't see anything because the whole center of the field is stalks of sugarcane.
00:59:18.000Well, keep in mind, though and this is something where, like so, when people are comparing the numbers, that and Tim, I know you understand this that they're actually comparing apples to oranges, because our views on youtube and our views from our cable partners and over the top and fast networks, etc.
00:59:38.000Those are devices, whereas Nielsen is completely different right, Nielsen uses a formula where they assume, and and and I I kind of agree with this they say, well, nobody really watches the Super Bowl by themselves.
00:59:53.000It's typically at a party or something, and so what they do is they take the household number and they times it by three, yep where.
01:00:01.000So, when you're reading Nielsen ratings, it says that whereas what?
01:00:04.000And then they'll say, and turning point got 20 million views on their youtube channel.
01:00:07.000It's like well, first of all, we had more than one stream up and, second of all, and there are parties and there are bars.
01:00:12.000Yeah, those were parties, those were bars, that were anyone with the youtube tv set, I mean the one I was at, we had like 30.
01:00:19.000This has been a long-standing challenge for us on Timcast IRL, because right now we have let's see, between Youtube and Rumble, we have about 45 uh.
01:00:28.000We have 43 44 000 concurrent stream uh viewers, the.
01:00:32.000The issue is when we sell against this and we say like oh, you know, the show is going to get 600, 700 000 uh views.
01:00:40.000There's a difference between a show like ours, which is live 8 to 11 p.m every day, and a vod which is watched on mobile.
01:00:48.000About half our viewers watch on tvs, and so one thing I noticed very early on was that it seemed disproportionate the amount of people who knew about the show and talked to me, and I didn't understand.
01:01:00.000Until we actually figured out, talking with some industry execs who said oh, it's because you're a tv show.
01:01:05.000Timcast Irl is watched on a large lot of televisions right yeah, there's four or five people in that room and I went, oh, we had advertisers right, so we had advertisers say to us we heard this for like two years, you, you overperform.
01:01:38.000Here's a challenge for you Jack, and here's what you guys should say.
01:01:40.000You guys should say you had 90 million views.
01:01:42.000I'm gonna, i'm gonna say right now, 30 million.
01:01:44.000Then you would times it by three because the halftime show was played on bars, on televisions.
01:01:49.000It was not, and it's a silly thing to assume.
01:01:51.000In fact, here's what you really should do, go into your, go into the channel's metrics and look how many mobile devices and how many tvs and for every tv, do the Nielsen analysis.
01:02:03.000So if you guys have 40 tvs, call that you got 45 million.
01:02:10.000That puts you at 85 million views for the Tp Usa halftime show.
01:02:14.000Uh people yeah right right viewers, this is my point.
01:02:18.000So whenever you read these articles and they're comparing the numbers, you're comparing apples to oranges because Nielsen uses the times three.
01:02:25.000Let me, let me just throw this to you, because we mentioned this on the show When it happened or the day after, which advertiser out there, which would you prefer?
01:02:33.000I can hold up a sign that someone will walk past, or I can hold up a sign to a group of people who are looking to come and stare at the sign.
01:03:08.000Well, those are the most pathetic people, like broken by a lot of people.
01:03:11.000Well, here's something interesting as well, because I didn't really watch a lot of the commercials, but one of the ones that I did catch was, and I guess there's been a series of these, Duncan with like Ben Affleck.
01:03:22.000And this is like the third year that he's done an iteration of this.
01:03:25.000So did you notice that they brought back a lot of the 90s sitcom characters for this one?
01:04:11.000Bad Bunny's demo was, because that was globalist, right?
01:04:14.000But the reason they had, so just to finish my point, we had Kid Rock.
01:04:17.000So we were not only did we get the views that we got, but we were also cutting into that key demo that they were looking for, which it wasn't something that we really intended to do.
01:04:26.000But, you know, thinking about it now, because we're talking ratings, we're talking numbers, we're talking all this stuff, you know, you get the number two YouTube live stream of all time.
01:04:34.000And suddenly we're realizing that, wait a minute, I bet you if we broke that out by age, we probably got that key key advertising demo that they wanted, the disposable income, the elder millennials, centennials, Gen Y. That's who they were going for.
01:06:37.000But before I went on my app, I actually just went over to the machine, and you know, whose face was right there staring at me was Bad Bunny.
01:07:06.000Even if you cut through all like the politics surrounding Bad Bunny, like it's just very nefarious because the NFL, Rock Nation, when they're choosing Bad Bunny to be the half-season Jay-Z, who runs Rock Nation.
01:07:17.000So he controls what makes it so nefarious is the halftime show is meant to just be an entertaining product for the audience at home.
01:07:23.000The reason they select Bad Bunny is because the NFL has been actively trying to expand into Latin America.
01:07:28.000That's why they play games in Mexico City.
01:08:55.000But to your point, Jack, it is about the globalism, but more than that, it was about subverting, I think, something that is truly American, right?
01:09:04.000Most of your football fans don't speak Spanish.
01:09:08.000I mean, I understand that there's a lot of people that do speak Spanish in the U.S., but most of the guys that are watching football, they don't speak Spanish.
01:10:36.000But there have been issues of like government overreach that they've been on the right side of the world.
01:10:40.000Famously, they endorsed a policy that's actually very right-wing, which is when New York City passed a bill that every establishment has to take cash, no questions asked.
01:10:47.000It's a really right-wing policy because that was at the same time when Beto O'Rourke was like, Chase should deny purchases for AR-15s.
01:10:54.000And they're saying, well, we don't want banking controlling your purchases.
01:10:57.000New York City, they pass a bill tending for it to help homeless people buy stuff or whatever, but it's actually just a really right-wing policy.
01:11:03.000Well, look, when I came up there, and I, you know, I had no notes.
01:11:09.000You know, we were, again, we just, we threw this thing together in three months and really less than that because we had AmFest and then Christmas and New Year's, really more like two months.
01:11:19.000And we had cast a wide net early on, you know, and then you have to drill down on venues and artists.
01:11:26.000And then we had so many artists who said they would do it.
01:11:29.000But then when it came to those rights, didn't work out.
01:11:32.000And, you know, I'm not going to say, I'm not going to point fingers, but, you know, I think we all know who didn't want a competitive halftime show.
01:12:15.000It's just that the fact that it's people that are that are comfortable playing what is perceived as a right-wing event, then it's automatically, it's political and it's blah, blah, blah.
01:12:26.000Even though the Bad Bunny one is the one that actually had all the subversion in it, right?
01:12:30.000All of the states last year with Kendrick Lamar.
01:12:33.000But ultimately, I will say it's already been done.
01:12:35.000In another sense, though, in like a higher sense, it is political, right?
01:12:39.000It's political because the left in this country has separated from the traditional idea of American patriotism.
01:12:48.000And so patriotism didn't used to be political.
01:13:01.000We're going to have Kid Rock, who's a super famous artist that really, that's what made this break containment.
01:13:08.000We broke containment where normies, people at bars, Uber drivers, whatever you call it, they're all saying, oh, the Kid Rock halftime show, the American halftime show.
01:13:37.000Just as long as you don't have front row boxers, throw it on stage.
01:13:40.000No, again, though, I got a picture for you.
01:13:42.000But what I'm saying, though, is here's the thing is like when it comes to any one artist, and this is what it was a huge learning curve for me on so much of this.
01:13:50.000I should feel like I should have called you to explain how all the rights work to everybody.
01:14:42.000And I can announce the venue tonight, actually, because, and I'll explain why, because we were looking at YouTube live streams over the years and the record.
01:14:51.000Tim, do you know what the number one YouTube live stream of all time was?
01:15:54.000You want to do two stages so that way you can have one stage being set up while the other one's going, whether they be end-to-end or next, both of them will be able to do it.
01:16:01.000Actually, actually, that might work better because this was the reason.
01:16:06.000And, you know, cats out of the bag because Kid Rock and there was this whole controversy.
01:17:09.000Whereas we were able to do more show in the same amount of time because we were able to eliminate that setup, shut, you know, set up breakdown time because we could just show act to act to act to act.
01:17:22.000And Phil, obviously, because you put on shows, I'm sure you noticed that right away.
01:18:15.000I mean, look, the proof of concept, it's clearly there.
01:18:20.000And what we showed, what we showed, and look, and this is where, you know, this is where, you know, I talked about how the gatekeeping definitely affected us early on, but it ended up in a much better spot because now when you see the numbers like that, 40, 50 million all in on a wing and a prayer, and we're slapping this thing together like literally as we go along, that there's a lot of people that want to be associated with that amount of eyeballs.
01:18:49.000And when it comes down to it, Tim, it's your point.
01:19:07.000If you guys launch, if this was to be a for-profit venture based off the views that you got, and next you did a festival based off those views, it's a $100 million operation overnight.
01:19:32.000So I'm picturing that if you started selling advertisements, first you need to plan how many stages, where's it going to be, what's it going to look like, which includes the live stream with an estimated 40 to 50 million, probably more next year.
01:19:46.000You do it exactly on the site of Woodstock 99.
01:19:49.000In February, or you're going to do that.
01:19:53.000You're going to bring in like $20 or $30 million in paid sponsorships in advance.
01:19:58.000And so festivals like this, based off the conventions and stuff that I've seen and the sales that they've pulled in based on their numbers, this is like a $100 million business.
01:20:08.000At the end of the day, it's as amazing as all that is.
01:20:12.000Look, we have to make sure that whatever we do, we stay true to the mission, right?
01:20:18.000Because Charlie, this is one of the things that people don't realize, like this wasn't, like, yeah, I had the tweet and all, but like, it was Charlie's, he always talked about the Super Bowl halftime show.
01:20:28.000And he would say, he would say, this isn't family friendly.
01:20:37.000And his whole point was you've got to have something that showcases the type of, we have a clip of him that where he's saying, showcase the type of virtues that you want to see throughout the country.
01:20:50.000We had rock music, we had country, we had Kid Rock preaching the gospel, by the way.
01:20:56.000You know, I think anybody saw that coming, which, man, it was so hard for me to not talk about that because I was sitting backstage balling my eyes out.
01:21:05.000No, I'm just going to tell you the truth.
01:21:06.000When he hit that song, when he starts singing, when he showed the picture of Charlie, you know, he starts singing about, hey, you know, when your dad asked you to go fishing, why don't you say yes?
01:21:37.000Well, because like the halftime show you.
01:21:38.000It's the wrong date if you're going to do the Super Bowl next year.
01:21:42.000And on the note of like the virtues we want to see from the halftime show, like this doesn't necessarily have to be like we get around and like show like, let's get married and have kids.
01:21:49.000Like it should celebrate like American vitality, the essence of America.
01:21:53.000Real quick, this is a parody of Bonaru.
01:22:05.000Yeah, but that's what it is through art, through music.
01:22:09.000The last like well, and you, you got what, and I think a lot of people got what Kid Rock was doing with the way that he did the transition of where people were saying, okay, he first, he comes out with ball at the ball.
01:24:08.000Gun person in a dress behind Canada's deadliest shooting in decades.
01:24:12.000Horrified Tumblr Ridge students reveal.
01:24:14.000There's a mass shooting the other day.
01:24:16.000A transgender individual killed several people, including himself.
01:24:21.000And when the story broke, the media was calling the shooter a woman in a dress, which immediately people said, that's a weird way to describe a woman.
01:24:29.000The New York Post then said female in a dress because they changed it because people don't know what the left is trying to convey, or they do, they're lying, whatever.
01:24:36.000Then news broke that, in fact, it was a biological male who identified as transgender.
01:24:42.000And the story here is, I mean, the tragedy is a tragedy.
01:25:04.000That's what was so crazy because we were trying to stitch together the story this morning, like, okay, what's confirmed, what's not confirmed.
01:25:08.000Yeah, and I was, I was kind of like not, but I was traveling.
01:25:11.000The whole like British Columbia papers were like talking to the guy's family.
01:25:14.000They were like, they're talking to classmates and they're like, yes, this is him.
01:25:17.000But the police just refused to actually admit it.
01:25:20.000So you had, again, you had like the Western standard.
01:25:22.000They're a large paper in British Columbia.
01:25:24.000Like, yeah, we talked to the classmates 100% this guy, no doubt about it.
01:25:27.000But like, if you're in the media and you're commentating on this, you still can't go all in because you still need like the permission from the local police, but they were just all out on defense.
01:25:35.000And even afterwards, where the local police was like, well, we still want to honor this person's like gender identity.
01:25:41.000Why do you need to respect a mass shooter?
01:25:46.000Well, because keep in mind that you're in Canada.
01:25:48.000This is not a place where you have like the same kind of freedom of speech, the same protections.
01:25:53.000You know, we've seen people in the UK go to jail for inciting hatred, inciting discrimination.
01:26:02.000And so it could easily be something where they're actually worried about, you know, the media in Canada getting fines for not referring to them by the proper pronouns.
01:26:12.000Oh, this is the exact reason why we can't take any part of Canada as a 51st day.
01:28:08.000And he's demanding a court process, which was denied.
01:28:12.000The court actually said because he entered on a visa waiver, he explicitly includes a waiver of your rights to due process in the event deportation is sought.
01:28:22.000So it's just, it pisses me off to know when that they're like, this poor man, he's been here and he's Irish.
01:28:27.000And I'm like, bro, he committed a crime.
01:29:56.000Was that, and I'm sure you've seen this discourse about how he just showcased so many facets of his culture that are totally unaware by white people that we have no idea what it's like seeing someone sleep across a kid, sleep across two to three chairs at a wedding, that we have no idea what it's like.
01:30:31.000Yeah, literally they they take, like they take traits that are very common among like, the lower middle class or lower class, and then they attribute it to like some sort of like unique ethnic identity.
01:30:41.000Yeah, Tim, I don't know if you saw this tweet that was going viral where I guess it was some girl and she was like, this is the most Latin thing ever where it's a little kid sleeping across two to three chairs at a wedding.
01:30:54.000And it's like, isn't that just being a kid at a family event that goes like that?
01:30:59.000Well, again, this is the point that these people are.
01:31:02.000The problem I see with a lot of these liberals is that they come from these insular environments.
01:31:08.000Like when they had that whole campaign about the talk, and the white liberals were like, black people have to tell their kids to obey the police.
01:31:17.000And I'm just like, that's true for literally every single person.
01:31:31.000But like what Jack's saying is they'll, they'll do this thing where it'll be like, you know, in the Lebanese culture, we have this really unique thing.
01:31:44.000They were like from some, it was like some East Asian country and they were saying, and there was a foreign student.
01:31:50.000It was in the U.S. and he had just lost his grandfather.
01:31:53.000And then the father was explaining to the American, you see, he's really sad because in our culture, we really value our grandparents.
01:32:02.000So it's, you know, it's just so you understand that.
01:32:05.000Well, I'll be honest, like the way Americans shove their parents and grandparents in homes and sort of leave.
01:32:10.000Yeah, there was the, there was a comedian, um, um, Stavros, I don't know how to say his last name, Hikos or whatever.
01:32:15.000And he did make a good point where he's like, there's WASP culture and then there's everything else is kind of the same.
01:32:20.000And it's kind of true where it's like to a degree when you do see these sorts of behaviors, if you're like a WASP, like a very like old school American, that is kind of foreign, but it's like everybody else combined.
01:32:32.000But I mean, I'll say, I'll even point out, and I'll play Devil's Advocate on the senior homes, is that that is something that is WASP culture because of them wanting to be more independent.
01:32:47.000They don't want to be like the burden on the children.
01:32:52.000Whereas in most other cultures, like I'm Polish, obviously, and in Polish culture, it's in Eastern European culture.
01:32:58.000It's very much the traditional, you know, multi-generational family household.
01:33:03.000Your grandparents take care of the little kids.
01:33:25.000Yeah, there is some truth that like the United States, because of like our founding, founding culture being like super like hyper-Calvinist is that we have this like very uniquely individualistic culture.
01:33:35.000And so to like to Jack's point, I remember a few years ago, this discourse started on the right where they were like, you know, the nuclear family is actually bad and we should like embrace multi-generational living.
01:33:50.000That's why every American, like I love this description of Americans that we're all temporarily embarrassed millionaires.
01:33:56.000It's like that is that is the reason why we like are like, let's just go to the moon.
01:34:00.000Like these sorts of things, that actually is like a very intrinsic to America.
01:34:03.000And by extension, I guess, like the UK and Australia, they're kind of losing it.
01:34:07.000So you do see some of these things introduced and they're like passed off as conservative or right-wing, but it's like, it's just foreign to the United States.
01:34:13.000And like the way it's being implemented, it's like once you see it, you're like, well, that's not quite us.
01:34:17.000There's a reason why America is so unique.
01:34:41.000But people were pointing out, I guess, the first night, like the last night which she was seen, they said she took an Uber to the son and daughter's house for dinner.
01:34:52.000And I heard a lot of people saying, well, wait a minute, the son and daughter only live a couple of minutes a day.
01:34:57.000But it goes back to the same culture that we're talking about.
01:35:00.000Don't want to be seen as a burden, want to demonstrate independence, and that this is, it's just part of that culture.
01:35:09.000And it's not something that you can change.
01:35:12.000And also when you, again, when you bring in people who are from different cultures, yes, they can assimilate to that, you know, to an extent.
01:35:20.000But when you bring so many people in who don't have that culture, that don't have any history of that, they don't assimilate because it is totally foreign way of thinking and way of believing.
01:35:30.000So to answer the question, it's like, why would you take that Uber?
01:36:18.000It's like, if that were a halftime show, it actually had the We Accept EBT right there.
01:36:24.000And then people were saying, and then like Nina Turner on Twitter and a bunch of people were saying, you need to put that because that's our culture because that's there.
01:36:32.000It's like, so wait, you're called deficit culture.
01:36:39.000Whereas, as I'm sure Tate knows, that in like white American culture, typically it's seen, and I think a lot of people, or at least traditionally, it used to be seen that that was shameful.
01:36:52.000People would say, like, I don't care if we don't have money, like, we're not getting on food stamps.
01:36:57.000Like, it's like embarrassing, it's shameful.
01:37:08.000The easiest way to explain it is that the phrase the phrase from each according to their ability to each according to their need posits that people who can produce by working extra hard should, and people who can't produce enough to survive should not.
01:37:21.000And so the reason why communism always fails is because the people who can produce in excess have no reason to, and the people who cannot are given food from everybody else.
01:37:33.000So you have an expansion of a deficit population, a population that consumes while not producing enough.
01:38:46.000Well, that's why you see like every time in the UN, they have these like, they don't have any implication, but they're like, should food be a human right?
01:38:52.000The United States always votes no because we're just saying like, no, you're not entitled to someone else's labor.
01:38:59.000And a positive right means you're entitled to someone's labor.
01:39:01.000Because again, someone has to produce that food.
01:39:03.000And so if that's a human right, if food is a human right, that means that if your human rights being infringed on, then you could put the gun to someone and say, give me some food.
01:39:11.000So it's like at every level, it's just this is why these systems, again, you know, were created for certain people in certain places at certain times.
01:39:24.000And we're now learning that they can't just be applied across the board to everyone.
01:40:57.000These leftists got these big networks.
01:40:59.000We don't need to create any weird police-infringing crime networks like they have, but community is still powerful because when a disaster strikes, an emergency strikes, you need to know who your friends are, where they are, and there's a support network.
01:41:33.000At the same time, I mean this kind of in a weird way as a promo, but it is our security issues have not been abated and it's massively stressful.
01:41:42.000And we are admittedly hanging by a thread, but we're doing everything we can to keep things going.
01:41:47.000So if you support that work that we do and you want to help us to continue doing it, Timcast.com, join our Discord community.
01:41:53.000I'm going to tell you guys right now the cost of security.
01:42:06.000One 24-hour rotation is $700,000 a year.
01:42:10.000Which, and, you know, not to get into it too much, but at Turning Point's main headquarters, you know, when Charlie was murdered, we were actually in the process of putting up finally a full security gate and fencing and perimeter with like a motorized gate and all the rest of it.
01:42:53.000And it's because you need to understand one security guy.
01:42:57.000It's not that you have one security guy for 24 hours.
01:42:59.000No, you have four people per day because of shift overlap, because you can't have gaps in your security.
01:43:05.000Now imagine you've got a multi-building media company with several shows and you need four or five people per day 24 hours for maximum security after someone shot your property.
01:43:16.000That's why we went to Florida and we were trying to work something out and figure out if there was a way to do a bigger deal with Rumble and do something.
01:43:23.000We don't know what's going on with that.
01:46:36.000If you go to Osaka, my favorite thing, one of my favorite places I've ever been, I would say this is actually kind of a religious pilgrimage in a way.
01:46:41.000If you go to Osaka, they have the drunken clam from Family Guy.
01:46:46.000Some guy just got really into Family Guy and he opened a bar on like the fifth floor of a building called Drunken Clam.
01:49:05.000You know, I look at it from the geostrategic perspective that, you know, Puerto Rico gives you that access to the Caribbean, gives you those basing rights.
01:49:12.000You don't have to worry about, you know, treaties or anything.
01:50:59.000I did certainly did not call him on his personal private cell phone number and ask him.
01:51:05.000No, I was trying to see if we could get him to tweet about, you know, to like comment on our show.
01:51:12.000But of course, you know, which hasn't come up yet, I'm told that I was told that they were going to play it on the plane at one point when he was flying up.
01:51:20.000I don't know if that ever actually happened.
01:52:07.000Even though it's not a Trump thing, it's sort of got the DNA, the fingerprints, if you will, of MAGA, Americanism, globalism, all of these things tied together.
01:52:19.000Obviously, he's close with Kid Rock, their friend.
01:54:29.000The cost of keeping an account with I think it's Chet GPT or whoever, whoever it is, the cost of having an account is like 200 bucks a month.
01:54:37.000And the people that use these generally use them for their work.
01:54:40.000And they're like, it makes me so efficient that it's totally worth it.
01:55:36.000If you're going to buy, just turn a stream off, just turn it on.
01:55:38.000But I do think it's interesting, too, because I will just say this.
01:55:40.000It's funny that we're addressing it in the fact that Jack is literally saying he hopes Trump comments on the TPUSA halftime show.
01:55:46.000I mean, it just, it's something that, you know, I think that he would do.
01:55:53.000And, you know, put it this way: you know, when he sees something put on big numbers like that, and it's associated with, you know, quote-unquote people he views as like his guys, his side.
01:56:04.000Not only that, the type of thing he talks about all the time.
01:56:07.000I did very well with Hispanics, by the way.
01:56:09.000But we're talking also about a year from now, Trump has an opportunity.
01:56:15.000Does he want to be involved in something that got such massive play?
01:58:25.000He says, fellas, using my first ever super chat to announce the wife and I just came home with our first baby deal yesterday, Little Liliana.
01:59:16.000Well, if you're 18 years old and you got 50 grand or 100 grand or whatever it ends up turning into, then you're going to care about capital because you actually have a stake in it.
01:59:25.000It's like if you can get a whole generation of young people that have some kind of buy-in, that's going to be a very good thing for the United States of America.
01:59:34.000Bro, the bad bunny odds have jumped to from, what was it at when we started?
02:00:24.000Joshua P. Flowers says, my friend in the area says the cartel does that all the time, but this is the first time they issued a no-fly zone.
02:00:31.000Something is different or something is seriously wrong.
02:01:07.000And we didn't want any planes to be in the vicinity just in case something went wrong.
02:01:12.000So one theory, and we were told this is not true, is that the DOD wanted to test DOW wanted to test a high-powered directed energy weapon on Mexican cartel drones.
02:03:11.000You're getting a 13% margin, 13% interest rate effectively.
02:03:18.000So my attitude is, like, why should I put my money in the bank when I can put it in shares of, no, the U.S. will not confirm the existence of aliens and get back a higher percentage?
02:03:28.000Can't you just bet on, like, civilization-ending instances and just make – because it's like if this were it, yes.
02:05:22.000You can follow me on X and Instagram at Timcast.
02:05:24.000Jack, do you want to shut anything out?
02:05:26.000Look, I just say, you know, because I haven't really said this, incredible success of the show.
02:05:31.000That's thanks to the people of this audience, the people on YouTube, the Patriots out there.
02:05:37.000But ultimately, this is God's grace, and we're all incredibly humbled by it.
02:05:43.000This wasn't, you know, it's just a stupid tweet by me.
02:05:46.000And then coming on when you were out in Phoenix and we all chatted about it, you know, a couple of months ago, and it just took on a life of its own.
02:05:54.000And that's how I know that that's not me that's doing that.
02:12:22.000If it is, it's gonna be like one of those limited ones.
02:12:24.000Yeah, but here's the thing: guys, there's not gonna be a shutdown, and it's because the save act included a rule that they could introduce budget bills.
02:12:48.000This is the kind of stuff that makes people rich.
02:12:50.000Do not buy based on what I'm telling you because I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about.
02:12:54.000But I'm going to pull this up from Thomas Massey and then give you my perspective.
02:12:58.000Thomas Massey said, There's a false rumor I voted against the Save Act today.
02:13:02.000I'll vote for it when it comes to the floor.
02:13:04.000I voted against a rule that allows it to get to a vote, but the rule also suspends house rules and allows spending bills to come to the floor with no 24-hour notice, which means they can introduce tomorrow and keep the government open.
02:15:04.000I understand it's against the rules if I were to buy it, but what if I just privately told Tate and then Tate told his girlfriend and then she bought it?
02:21:01.000If Tim Poole attends any White House press briefing, which takes place in the James S. Brady press briefing room after issuance and before 2027, the market resolves to yes.
02:21:11.000I literally just need to be sitting there.
02:22:51.000This is the weirdest fucking shit because let me be completely honest.
02:22:55.000What's to stop me from literally just letting people here know, hey, guys, I'm actually going to go to the press briefing tomorrow and ask Carolyn Levitt about the bad bunny in the halftime show.
02:23:05.000I'm not going to buy any stock on it or anything like that or any trades, even though it's not illegal.
02:26:37.000Like, guys, just for the people listening, imagine if you're going to work and someone was making a bet publicly online as to whether or not you'd get lunch at Chipotle or Chick-fil-A.
02:26:49.000And you were like, I guess I'll go to Chick-fil-A.
02:26:53.000And then everyone's like, yo, we're going to get money.
02:26:55.000Why are you making money off whether or not I go somewhere?
02:29:09.000I mean, who's Jack knows for sure how big LA politics is because he was at the protest when we were protesting against those drag coins at the Under Stadium?
02:29:19.000The nuns, the scissors of perpetual indulgence.
02:31:52.000I thought about even myself running as a Democrat over here, just saying, hey, I'm only doing it because you guys are too stupid to not vote for me with the R next to my name.
02:33:52.000This has created an undue restriction on my life.
02:33:55.000Seriously, if I'm trying to be honorable, the fact that people are wagering as to whether or not I will go to a press briefing has created complications I didn't ask for nor contract into.
02:34:07.000I'm just thinking about what happens if my brother is like, I know Tim's not going.
02:34:11.000Am I supposed to be like, no, I have to consider now whether or not I should go or not based on whether someone I know is wagering against whether I will or won't?
02:36:56.000Well, yeah, I see that we should put a contract in whether you'll join local politics again, you know, because like I think there's a higher chance you might do that considering that you got a daughter.
02:37:09.000I mean, a lot of times like people, they don't want to be involved over here, but we're the only people that are like standing in the gap.
02:37:15.000And like I said, you don't have to do anything crazy.
02:37:17.000Just like, I'm on my committee, for example, my local precinct committee.
02:37:22.000I mean, that's an easy way to make sure that you have a say in whatever the state party is doing.
02:37:30.000I can, for your registered volume, I'm assuming it's West Virginia.
02:37:33.000But yeah, like I have a very, very powerful role and it's really being underutilized actually in LA County.
02:37:41.000We barely got out of bankruptcy for our county party.
02:37:45.000And we used to actually be bankrupt in Orange County next door.
02:37:49.000They got a real beautiful political machine over there.
02:37:52.000You just have to ask yourself, why is the county with the most Republicans have zero dollars in its bank account?
02:38:01.000And the Rhino is making money off us losing, probably, you know, colluding with Democrats.
02:38:06.000Because I myself, I'm a brand new Republican, found all this out once I started joining politics after the lockdowns, the illegal lockdowns, mind you.
02:39:14.000You could always assign one of the importance to be on the committee.
02:39:18.000It is not possible for me to quit the job.
02:39:21.000You know, I've talked about what happens if we can't maintain security costs, Timcast IRL, but I've always maintained like the morning show will still exist.
02:39:29.000If I were to stop working completely, I'd end up probably in jail.
02:39:53.000And then the, let me put it like this.
02:39:57.000If you own property and it falls in disrepair, you could be criminally charged.
02:40:02.000And maintaining the properties, the buildings, and stuff that we have, if it fell into disrepair, you can be criminally charged as the owner.
02:40:09.000Then, what would likely happen is they would seize it and, you know, I'd get arrested.
02:40:35.000So, I mean, I know I hear you're like the leader of us, basically, us, you know, brand new Republicans and whatnot, or even if you still independent, I don't even know what it says on your form.
02:40:48.000But yeah, dude, I really just appreciate you, you know, taking the call.
02:40:53.000And like I said, I do have a pack and I'm not going to shout it out or anything that I can do that later.
02:40:58.000But there is one dude that is like the leader on election integrity.
02:42:25.000So, the shooting in Canada comes amid other stories of trans violence, like the high school girl who was sexually assaulted during a wrestling match by a biological male, which she did not know she was wrestling at the time.
02:42:37.000And of course, the assassination of Charlie.
02:42:41.000How can we do something outside of just sharing these stories that'll actually change the minds of people that are promoting transgenderism, specifically for youth?
02:42:54.000Like, more than just sharing the stories.
02:42:55.000Yeah, like what can we actually do to change the minds of people who are promoting transgenderism, especially transgenderism in kids?
02:43:06.000I don't know that there's anything we can do aside from, you know, continue to like, because I mean, look, you can't change people's minds for them.
02:43:19.000It's like you can sit there and you can put information out.
02:43:21.000You can do your best to talk to detransitioners and make their stories public and stuff.
02:43:31.000But as for like changing the minds of the people that have kind of committed to this ideology, I mean, I kind of feel like that's kind of a lost cause.
02:43:38.000And nowadays, even though there's so many people that are actually starting to have a more sane view of transgenderism and specifically children That have been told that they're transgender or whatever, even though there's more of those people.
02:43:56.000The people that have historically, you know, they've already transitioned, they've been living their life as the opposite sex, they have a lot of incentive to stay that way and to never admit that they think that they were wrong, right?
02:44:11.000Because they've surrounded themselves by people that believe that transgenderism is a real thing and that it's legitimate and they believe that men can become women and vice versa.
02:44:22.000And so convincing them, like that's almost, that's almost impossible because it's asking for more than just changing your mind.
02:44:35.000If you have a mother that's fully committed to that ideology and her child transitioned, right?
02:44:42.000She's not going to say, oh, well, you know, I was wrong.
02:44:45.000That was a terrible thing for me to allow to happen to my child.
02:44:48.000You know, she's going to be like, no, no, no, it was the right thing to do because my child would have killed themselves if I didn't or what have you.
02:44:56.000No parent wants to think that they empowered their child to ruin their lives.
02:45:01.000So the idea of getting people to change their minds is really, really hard.
02:45:07.000It's better to continue to share these stories and try to reach people that haven't made up their mind and show them the reality of it so they can make an informed decision.
02:45:17.000I would, just to add on that, you know, one thing that I've pushed for just in terms of a positive, like not on the conversion side, but one thing that people can do, but specifically on the violence side, is we need the announcement of a federal task force on studying trans violence, profiling trans violence, understanding what the, you know, the off-ramps are to this.
02:45:43.000And certainly, you know, so look at it the way that we looked at serial killers in the past.
02:45:47.000And when you would see these repeat offenders who would continue to, you know, or repeat instances, I should say, of this type of violence, where, you know, the profile seems to be very similar again and again.
02:46:00.000And look, you know, we also have to have, I think, in this country, a serious conversation about whether or not, and, you know, Tim, I'd love to get your sense on this.
02:46:09.000If people are taking HRT, if people are taking these hormones, you know, 5150.
02:46:16.000Is this something where they could be, where they should be allowed to have full access to gun rights?
02:46:25.000Well, the test is like, how do you process?
02:46:28.000How do you deal with the tension there?
02:46:30.000So if society codifies a law that states you can be stripped of your rights under certain circumstances.
02:46:49.000The founding fathers believed that everyone would have guns equipped and capable of being carried around, but the states would have the right to enforce the laws as they see fit.
02:46:57.000But the federal government could not take their guns away.
02:47:00.000The founding fathers envisioned that most people would have some kind of gun, but it's up to the states to decide.
02:47:05.000In fact, it was very common that in many states, your guns were taken from you all the time.
02:47:10.000In fact, in the 80s, almost every single state was a May-issue state, meaning you could barely get a permit for guns.
02:47:59.000The challenge is the typical liberal view, which many conservatives held, the classically liberal view, is if we allow the government to take away our guns due to 5150, they'll make up reasons to 5150.
02:49:25.000So I've been researching, and I do have a clarification.
02:49:27.000Insider trading is illegal on Caul She.
02:49:29.000It is a federal crime because Caul She is a regulated entity under, what is it, the Commodities and Exchange Act or something like that.
02:49:36.000Polymarket is in a different space right now because the contracts aren't regulated under the same thing just yet.
02:49:43.000But Caul She is wholly regulated and controlled.
02:49:45.000Now, this presents a very, very interesting problem because this creates a regulated financial market without the control of the parties listed in the markets.
02:49:54.000Whereas it used to be the financial markets where you're a company, you listed your public stock.
02:49:59.000There are laws saying you can't make materially false statements that could influence the price of a financial market.
02:50:06.000Now, hold on there, gosh darn fucking minute.
02:50:08.000I never asked anybody to make a market about me, and I can say whatever the fuck I want.
02:50:12.000If I want to say I am going or I'm not going to that event, I'll be damned if you're going to argue that my market manipulation and materially false statements are now regulated.
02:50:20.000That means if I want to lie to people and say I am going, I was always allowed to do that.
02:50:25.000If I want to lie and say I'm not going, I was allowed to do that.
02:50:27.000But now that now that a market is involved, they can argue that's a crime.
02:50:30.000And they can make up a reason saying you're trying to manipulate a market.
02:51:54.000Anyway, so the new trans shooter is from Tumblr Ridge, living in a simulation confirmed.
02:51:59.000Okay, but my call is actually not about the trans shooter.
02:52:02.000For the panel, what are our thoughts on the new Discord policy changes coming up next month requiring a face scan to not have a restricted teen account?
02:52:11.000We've built quite the impressive Timcast IRL expanded universe ecosystem here.
02:52:16.000Will we be seeking safe harbor elsewhere?
02:52:19.000Perhaps TeamSpeak, who seems to care about user privacy.
02:52:23.000Does the panel feel this is a trend that will likely be adopted by all other social media platforms soon?
02:52:41.000I have no idea what's going to happen, but this is crazy.
02:52:44.000Yeah, I mean, it's basically the companies are looking for cover because there's so much illicit activity that's going on on Discord in so many different channels.
02:52:58.000They're just looking for the ability to say, well, we've gone and done all of the things that we can do to prevent this.
02:53:05.000We ban people when we see that they're saying things or doing things that are illegal.
02:53:10.000We do our best to make sure that there's a limited version for teens.
02:53:16.000For adults, we have all kinds of verifications, KYC stuff.
02:53:24.000So I think that that's going to be a lot of the internet in the future.
02:53:29.000And I think that the reason that Discord's doing it is because there's been some high-profile cases where people have used Discord to communicate about criminal activity.
02:53:41.000So as for what it's going to do for the Timcast Discord, I mean, I think most of the people in there are over 18, but whether or not they'll be comfortable with the face scan thing, that's going to be a personal decision as to whether or not.
02:53:54.000Well, yeah, that's the thing because I definitely don't want my face attached to the Discords I'm in and the handles I run becoming public knowledge when inevitably they get hacked again.
02:54:05.000Yeah, I mean, that's a big part of the question.
02:54:08.000It's like they're demanding, you know, personal information, but they have no actual way to guarantee that it's not going to be hacked and made public or what have you.
02:54:21.000So it's a really, it's a shit situation, to be honest with you.
02:55:48.000And it's based on the timeline I've been looking at in the past couple of days.
02:55:53.000Why are so many influencers in our sphere just absolutely torching their credibility over the Epstein document dumps?
02:56:01.000I mean, essentially, like half of my Twitter feed is, hey, this guy got name-dropped once in 40,000 pages as someone worth being looked at.
02:56:10.000Prosecutors later found out they didn't have enough to charge him without a guaranteed loss in court, which would attach double jeopardy.
02:56:17.000So that clearly means that Trump, Cash, and Pam Bondi are all protecting criminals.
02:56:22.000Now, quick, like and retweet, get your pitchforks and torches, use promo code POSO.
02:56:28.000Is it pure grift for the ex-payday, or are they just allergic to basic reality?
02:56:34.000Yeah, so it's just that people are using, and we talked about this a little bit, it's just that people are using the Epstein files as a way to slime people they don't like.
02:57:08.000Yeah, I think at this point, I think if you really want to go down the Epstein rabbit hole, I think Mike Benz is the best person to go down the hole with.
02:58:37.000The Bannon stuff is like, what do you mean on Bannon?
02:58:40.000Well, I mean, so there's a document early in an investigation that says these 12 people we think may be involved and we should look into them.
02:58:50.000And a few of those people end up getting charged later.
02:58:56.000But then we've got Bannon who ends up on the outs with Trump when he gets fired and he's working with Epstein to make a documentary to kind of clean up his image.
02:59:05.000And those people know both of these things.
02:59:08.000And like I said, I don't want to throw anybody in the bus to put you guys on the spot.
02:59:11.000And it's nobody that's on the panel tonight.
02:59:14.000But you definitely interact with these people every day.
02:59:16.000And I don't see anybody pushing back and saying, well, how is that different?
02:59:22.000Just to clarify, I'm not understanding who you're criticizing or what you're criticizing.
02:59:29.000Okay, so Some of our libertarian friends with a certain color hair, the entire feed is how Kash Patel and Pam Bondi are protecting these criminals because they're not because they're not charging this individual when we don't have evidence.
03:01:23.000Because that helps make it a lot of fun.
03:01:25.000There are way too many names, and all the circumstances are very, very different.
03:01:27.000Can you like, if my stance on the Lex Wexner thing was that Pam Bondi said within 40 minutes, they unredacted the name and they took care of it.
03:01:38.000I criticized Massey for going so hard and saying he caught you red-handed.
03:01:41.000I'm like, or like you just say thank you for doing that.
03:03:23.000I'm not understanding why somebody might not have.
03:03:25.000Can't tell you why Josie is mad about one guy, but not insert random unnamed other person because unnamed other person circumstances have not been defined.
03:03:35.000Josie is mad about thing, but not unnamed other thing.
03:03:48.000Steve Bennon was not listed as a co-conspirator to crimes with Epstein.
03:03:51.000The worst thing Bennon's accused of doing is a documentary with Epstein, being friendly with him.
03:03:57.000There's no evidence that Bennon went to an island or raped children or did anything of that sort.
03:04:01.000Lex Wexner was listed as a co-conspirator.
03:04:03.000So if you're asking me why Josie is more active, he wasn't listed as a co-conspirator.
03:04:07.000He was listed as a potential co-conspirator early in the investigation.
03:04:12.000And if you're asking me why, and it's a very, very limited question, you're asking me why Josie is more concerned about a potential co-conspirator and not, the answer is Bennon is not.
03:04:25.000Again, okay, I'll boil it down to one sentence.
03:04:27.000Is the majority of the people that we follow, the people here in here in the Discord, are they in it for the payday or are they trying, are they just unable to understand why somebody might be considered a potential co-conspirator early in an investigation?
03:04:48.000They don't find the evidence, so they don't take it to court because then that attaches double jeopardy and it's a guaranteed loss.
03:04:56.000And that would be what's actually what we're seeing in the document.
03:05:00.000Okay, so the issue with what you're saying is you're accusing someone of financial impropriety or unscrupulous behavior for having a wrong opinion.
03:05:11.000Well, which do you think is more likely?
03:05:14.000And that's why I didn't want to name anybody individually.
03:05:16.000I think it's more likely that Josie just needs to have the discussion.
03:05:20.000Is the grift that that appeals to you?
03:05:23.000See, again, you're poisoning the well by calling.
03:05:26.000You're poisoned the well by calling it a grift.
03:05:28.000And also, you have to take into account that Josie's political leanings are going to make her fairly sympathetic to Thomas Massey and not so sympathetic to other people.
03:06:44.000I think largely what's going on is you feel like someone should be saying things or you think they should be more critical of people and they're not.
03:06:57.000No, it seems to me like everything that we were warned about in this document dump, that if we dumped millions of documents on the American populace, it would be used to create these massive mountains out of molehills because there's going to be documents of, hey, we heard this guy may have been at this place, but then when we went to investigate, we found he was on the other side of the globe at this other event.
03:07:28.000But that document, that memo where they said, I heard this, let's look into it, now is being shown that one paragraph cut out of it out of any context that would never be allowed in a courtroom is being used to try and crucify random people.
03:07:45.000And it seems like a big part of the conservative movement is glomming onto that because it's getting them views and clicks.
03:08:02.000I think that the long and short of, at least as far as what we can say here, is if you're not talking about us, we can't speak for other people.
03:08:11.000Maybe there are some people that are that have, you know, that are a little un have less scruples than the people sitting around the table here.
03:08:20.000But I think asking us to speak for someone else, especially when it's something that's fairly obvious, that yes, there are different levels of commitment to integrity among different people because people are people.
03:09:35.000But Bondi didn't need to be antagonistic and she had an opportunity because Massey was being antagonistic to actually win that and she fucked it up.
03:09:43.000I think the Trump admins fucked up the Epstein stuff every step of the way.
03:10:14.000He should know the ethical violation he's making to make this claim that because there's a memo early in an investigation, that's the same as having enough to charge somebody.
03:10:25.000His point was that they didn't redact the names of victims who requested it, and they did redact the names of Lex Wexner, who was listed as a potential co-conspirator.
03:10:40.000If your complaint is about this one circumstance I can comment on, I will.
03:10:44.000His complaint is that a list of names was given of victims that was not redacted, but the lawyer was, meaning they saw the email from the lawyer saying, please don't release these names.
03:10:53.000And they chose to actually release the names in the same email, redact the lawyer's name, which is really weird.
03:10:59.000At the same time, a document was released of Lex Wexner as a potential co-conspirator.
03:11:03.000They chose to redact despite them not being not supposed to be doing that.