Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - THEY KILLED THEM | Timcast IRL #1457 w-Jay Dyer & Jake Botch

00:02:23.000 Four Americans shot dead.

00:02:26.000 A U.S.-flagged speedboat near was entering Cuban waters when the National Guard killed them all.

00:02:32.000 Now, the Cuban guard's saying that these Americans opened fire on them.

00:02:38.000 I don't believe it.

00:02:40.000 The latest reporting is since Venezuela's oil's been cut off and U.S. has taken back control of their oil assets, Cuba's been cut off.

00:02:49.000 No tourists, no fuel.

00:02:50.000 Their country is grinding to a halt.

00:02:52.000 They've become desperate.

00:02:53.000 So there's a lot of questions we have over this breaking story right now about a U.S. speedboat getting shot up by Cuba and what that could mean for the United States.

00:03:03.000 People need to understand.

00:03:05.000 Well, Cuba is decently far away from Florida.

00:03:07.000 It's actually not that far away from Florida.

00:03:10.000 And there are a lot of people, a lot of Americans who are in Florida, and they do like going and partying in Cuba.

00:03:16.000 It's not that uncommon.

00:03:18.000 Perhaps this could be Cuba is at its wit's end and is overreacting or angry or retaliating.

00:03:25.000 We'll talk about that.

00:03:26.000 Plus, more information on the cartel violence.

00:03:30.000 Mexico's considering suing Elon Musk because he said that the president works for the cartels.

00:03:35.000 He said she has cartel bosses and thought, how dare you say something that most people think is true.

00:03:40.000 And then, of course, my friends, the results from Trump's State of the Union.

00:03:44.000 The polls are smashing good for the president.

00:03:47.000 It's two to one.

00:03:48.000 And the funny thing is, CNN can't just say viewers liked speech.

00:03:54.000 I kid you not, despite the fact the CNN poll says 70% of people liked what Trump said, they headline the article.

00:04:01.000 Trump's speech leaves some viewers questioning blah, blah, blah.

00:04:05.000 Yes, because the minority exists.

00:04:05.000 Some.

00:04:08.000 Absolutely incredible.

00:04:10.000 So we're going to talk about the aftermath of that.

00:04:12.000 And then, guys, we got to talk about the Bears.

00:04:14.000 The Bears, we got to talk about them.

00:04:15.000 They're leaving Chicago.

00:04:16.000 And this may be the most catastrophic thing I've ever heard.

00:04:19.000 I have talked to you about statues being torn down.

00:04:22.000 I have talked to you about the changing of the name of the Redskins.

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00:04:26.000 A little bit.

00:04:26.000 I was kind of pissed off about it.

00:04:28.000 But the Chicago Bears, I am from Chicago.

00:04:30.000 And so this, this is like a nuclear bomb dropped on my childhood.

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00:04:35.000 I will not stand for the failures of the Democratic Party if Chicago is to lose the Bears.

00:04:40.000 And apparently they're going to, no matter what.

00:04:41.000 Pritzker said that we're basically resigned to the Chicago Bears being the Indiana Bears or the Hammond Bears.

00:04:49.000 Is it a joke?

00:04:50.000 Do you spit in our faces?

00:04:52.000 I'm pissed.

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00:07:08.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more, we got Jake Botch.

00:07:12.000 What's going on?

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00:07:14.000 I'm a union guy.

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00:08:10.000 My name is Elad Eliyahu.

00:08:11.000 I'm the White House correspondent here at Timcast.

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00:08:15.000 Phil, what's going on?

00:08:16.000 Hello, everybody.

00:08:17.000 My name is Phil Abante.

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00:08:23.000 What's up, everyone?

00:08:24.000 Carter Banks here.

00:08:25.000 Welcome back, Jay, and welcome, Jake.

00:08:27.000 Let's get into it.

00:08:29.000 Here's a story from the BBC.

00:08:30.000 Yo, this is absolutely insane.

00:08:32.000 Four shot dead on U.S. registered speedboat by border guards.

00:08:37.000 Cuba says.

00:08:38.000 They say in a statement, Cuba's interior ministry said the speedboat's passengers opened fire on a Coast Guard vessel that approached them, which I don't believe.

00:08:46.000 That makes no sense.

00:08:47.000 Six additional passengers were wounded in the incident, which took place near an island on Cuba's northern coast.

00:08:53.000 Marco Rubio said the nationalities of those on board is unclear.

00:08:56.000 The U.S. will make, okay, so correction.

00:08:58.000 We don't know if they're Americans.

00:08:59.000 U.S. will make determinations based on the facts.

00:09:01.000 Right now, we're still gathering facts.

00:09:04.000 He said the boat was not carrying U.S. government personnel.

00:09:07.000 Cuba's government said it did not know the identities of those on board the vessel, nor what it was doing in the area, and that an investigation has been launched to clarify the event.

00:09:14.000 In a statement posted X, the ministry said the Florida registered vessel with the registration number FL7726SH was detected near Keo Falconez in the country's central villa, Clara Province, on Wednesday morning.

00:09:28.000 When a Cuban boat carrying five members of the ministry's border guard approached the vessel for identification, the crew of the violating speedboat opened fire and wounded the Cuban commander.

00:09:37.000 As a consequence of the confrontation, as of the time of this report, four aggressors on the foreign vessel were killed and six injured.

00:09:43.000 Those who were injured were evacuated.

00:09:45.000 Now, the important context here is also this: CNN reporting last week: no food, no fuel, no tourists under U.S. pressure.

00:09:53.000 Life in Cuba grinds to a halt.

00:09:56.000 Since we seized back, that's an important thing to understand.

00:10:00.000 Since we seized back our oil assets from Venezuela that were stolen from us, even though we had a treaty in 2009, okay, this is an important, I'm going to say it again.

00:10:10.000 We had a bunch of oil investments in Venezuela.

00:10:12.000 We had a treaty.

00:10:13.000 We were doing peaceful trade, and the commie government came in and stole all our stuff, and we didn't do anything about it.

00:10:18.000 That pisses me off.

00:10:19.000 Since we took it back, Cuba's not getting the free energy from Venezuela they were before.

00:10:24.000 Now they're in trouble.

00:10:25.000 So when you hear a story like this, you have to wonder what really happened.

00:10:28.000 That being said, I will stand corrected.

00:10:30.000 I thought it was Americans. 0.93

00:10:31.000 I would say there's a decent probability, surprise, surprise, these could be drug runners operating in a U.S. boat.

00:10:31.000 We don't know.

00:10:37.000 And when the Cubans approach them, they think, oh, crap, what do we do? 0.99

00:10:40.000 Maybe.

00:10:41.000 We're not entirely sure.

00:10:42.000 But the big concern, I think, here is the animosity between Cuba and the United States since the Venezuela operation is bubbling up.

00:10:52.000 It's getting pretty intense.

00:10:54.000 So that's why my immediate assumption was a U.S. speedboat was driving around and the Cuban National Guard just killed them.

00:11:00.000 But we don't know for sure.

00:11:01.000 This guy, to be honest, if they came back and said, actually, it was a bunch of Venezuelan narco-drug guys on a speedboat selling drugs, I'd be like, well, you know, that's been happening too.

00:11:12.000 But I'm curious if you guys think this means, let's just, I'll just crank the knob all the way to 11 and rip it off.

00:11:18.000 U.S. is going to war with Cuba.

00:11:19.000 I think that Marco Rubio is going to invade him personally.

00:11:23.000 He's going to be down there on the first boat.

00:11:25.000 I mean, he's got every other job in the federal government essentially lately.

00:11:28.000 So I don't see any reason why he wouldn't be leading the charge into Cuba.

00:11:32.000 Everyone just resigns and Rubio just does all of it.

00:11:35.000 Yeah, he's the only guy.

00:11:36.000 They're gearing up to make him king.

00:11:39.000 That would be so based.

00:11:40.000 Imagine they're going to fire off from Havana next year.

00:11:42.000 The king of Cuba or the king of the United States?

00:11:45.000 King of Cuba.

00:11:46.000 King of Cuba.

00:11:46.000 You know what I like about Cuba is that it's frozen in time.

00:11:48.000 You know what I feel like?

00:11:49.000 If you ever want to go to the 1950s, you go to Cuba.

00:11:51.000 Is this guy still alive?

00:11:52.000 Do they even know for sure if he's alive?

00:11:54.000 Which guy?

00:11:55.000 What's his name?

00:11:56.000 The guy who runs the joint.

00:11:57.000 Oh, no.

00:11:58.000 Castro.

00:11:59.000 Castro, the first Castro, died a while ago.

00:12:01.000 So it's his brother now?

00:12:02.000 Yes, Raul, right?

00:12:04.000 Raul.

00:12:04.000 Raul, yeah.

00:12:05.000 For sure.

00:12:06.000 They know for sure that's what's going on.

00:12:07.000 Pretty sure it's still Raul Castro.

00:12:10.000 Yeah, the younger brother of Fidel.

00:12:12.000 He's old, man.

00:12:14.000 Oh, no, no, no, wait, wait, wait.

00:12:15.000 Hold on.

00:12:16.000 Is he still doing it?

00:12:17.000 He is a president.

00:12:21.000 No, no, he left a while ago.

00:12:23.000 So who's the current president of Cuba?

00:12:25.000 See, I don't pay attention to Cuban politics.

00:12:26.000 It's Miguel Diaz-Carrel.

00:12:29.000 Oh, wow.

00:12:30.000 Miguel.

00:12:32.000 Yeah, I didn't know that.

00:12:32.000 Yeah.

00:12:33.000 I could have sworn it wasn't.

00:12:34.000 Mike.

00:12:35.000 You go, Mike.

00:12:37.000 Mike Diaz.

00:12:38.000 Now, we had assets in Venezuela.

00:12:40.000 I didn't know that.

00:12:41.000 Yeah, so pretty like an average American that doesn't have all this information. 0.57

00:12:45.000 This is fantastic.

00:12:47.000 Let me learn you some something here.

00:12:48.000 We have a military base on Cuba or a gym rather in Cuba.

00:12:52.000 But he's talking about Venezuela.

00:12:52.000 He's talking about Venezuela.

00:12:53.000 I'm definitely not liberal, but what all these people were fighting for, that we just went in there and took their shit and just, you know.

00:13:00.000 So we had assets there.

00:13:03.000 Originally ours?

00:13:04.000 Yeah.

00:13:05.000 Indeed.

00:13:05.000 So here's the story.

00:13:06.000 Venezuela is like the most oil-dense.

00:13:09.000 Actually, it's in the world, right?

00:13:10.000 Major over there.

00:13:12.000 It might be, I think it's gotten more than Saudi Arabia.

00:13:14.000 Don't they own Sitco?

00:13:16.000 I don't know.

00:13:16.000 No, they don't own it.

00:13:17.000 I thought it was American.

00:13:18.000 Oh, I thought Sitco was Venezuelan.

00:13:20.000 Well, I'm pretty sure it's not.

00:13:22.000 I don't know.

00:13:23.000 But here's the story.

00:13:24.000 U.S. oil companies.

00:13:28.000 So the U.S. had a treaty with Venezuela for a long time.

00:13:30.000 Venezuela was one of the most prosperous, it was the most prosperous nation in South America.

00:13:35.000 And our oil companies went there under our normal trade agreement and said, we're going to invest billions of dollars building oil refineries, bringing in oil tankers.

00:13:45.000 And then the country voted for socialism.

00:13:48.000 And again, I'm not being cute or insulting.

00:13:49.000 It literally they voted for the socialist candidate, Chavez, who then, I think it was 2009, announced the nationalization of all oil assets that were built, paid for, and owned by U.S. interests.

00:14:02.000 The U.S. government said, I guess they just stole $20 billion worth of our oil infrastructure and did nothing about it.

00:14:09.000 Then Venezuela started pumping that oil, burning down their economy with weird commie practices like mandating jobs that don't need to exist, and then using that oil to give to our enemies, largely to Cuba, but also they've been trading with China, Russia, Iran, et cetera. 0.72

00:14:26.000 And that's just not public knowledge.

00:14:28.000 It absolutely is.

00:14:29.000 It's public knowledge if you want to look for it.

00:14:32.000 Guy like me who's working a union job ain't looking for that.

00:14:32.000 Yeah.

00:14:35.000 So I just see Instagram, oh, oh, the blueheads, they're really pissed about this Venezuela thing. 0.99

00:14:40.000 You know, like you don't, you don't, you don't get that knowledge unless you come, and that sucks. 0.53

00:14:45.000 And then what happens is when you talk to a conservative, they're like, yes, of course, I knew this.

00:14:51.000 When you talk to a liberal, they're like, Trump's an evil dictator who's stealing stuff.

00:14:54.000 Media doesn't inform people.

00:14:55.000 No, you know, media stop.

00:14:57.000 Like, there's no backstory.

00:14:58.000 Even with, like, if you watch long form shows like this, you might get it, right?

00:15:02.000 But if you're just watching, if you're an average person that gets, you know, maybe an hour of news a week when you're making breakfast or throwing.

00:15:08.000 I don't even get that any drink.

00:15:09.000 TikTok swipes.

00:15:11.000 You're just 30 seconds of an hour show.

00:15:14.000 And so to your point, it is, you know, most people don't realize the history with most of the things that are going on internationally.

00:15:23.000 And believe me, most of the stuff the U.S. is doing when it comes to foreign policy and stuff, it's not been created in the past six months.

00:15:30.000 I mean, the whole change of focus from Europe to South America, which I mean, I'm not even sure if you know that's going on.

00:15:36.000 I have no idea.

00:15:37.000 So the U.S. used to really be close with or close with Europe.

00:15:40.000 There's been significant changes in Europe and not only the policies that Europe has, but also the makeup of Europe because of all the immigration from like the Middle East and from North Africa.

00:15:49.000 And so the U.S. is looking at Europe and they're saying, well, they kind of don't really share our values.

00:15:53.000 We're going to refocus our interest.

00:15:56.000 We're going to refocus onto South America and we're going to really kind of enforce the Monroe Doctrine.

00:16:01.000 I mean, most people don't even know what the Monroe Doctrine is.

00:16:04.000 I'm looking at a guy who don't know what the Monroe Doctrine is.

00:16:06.000 James Monroe said that we don't want Europe meddling in the affairs of our hemisphere.

00:16:12.000 So basically the Western hemisphere, North, South America, the U.S. is like saying, hey, Europe, keep your business in Europe and in Asia and stuff, and we'll keep our business here.

00:16:20.000 We don't want you influencing countries here.

00:16:23.000 And so that had kind of gone away for a long time.

00:16:25.000 But now the U.S. has decided that South American countries actually have more in common with the United States than Europe will likely have in, say, 25, 30 years.

00:16:35.000 I did kind of hear about that with the hemisphere thing.

00:16:37.000 Here's a crazy history of the communist stuff down there that a lot of people don't know.

00:16:42.000 When Che and Fidel were working together, they were actually guarding the oil fields for Standard Oil.

00:16:51.000 They had a huge battle between them.

00:16:53.000 They ended up falling out.

00:16:55.000 And Fidel basically ran Che away because Che seemed to be a committed communist.

00:17:00.000 But there's a good book by Servando Gonzalez on this.

00:17:04.000 He argues that the Council on Foreign Relations, because they always favored a synthesis of communism with capitalism, that they actually wanted Fidel to take Cuba, even though there was interest with certain elements of the organized crime that took over, or that opposed Batista when they took over.

00:17:24.000 So basically, organized crime, the CIA, they wanted resorts in Cuba.

00:17:28.000 And that's what Godfather 2 is about, if you watch Godfather 2.

00:17:31.000 Oh, really?

00:17:31.000 They overthrow Batista and Fidel comes to power.

00:17:36.000 But the question is, well, if we have a base there, why did that ever happen?

00:17:40.000 And Gonzalez has a thesis that the Council on Foreign Relations had a bunch of communists amongst their members that actually wanted Cuba to be communist to have an excuse to promote the dialectic down in South America.

00:17:54.000 Standard Oil is American?

00:17:55.000 Yeah, it's extremely important.

00:17:56.000 That's Rockefeller, right?

00:17:57.000 Oh, really?

00:17:58.000 Yeah.

00:17:58.000 So they guarded the Rockefeller oil even as communist revolutionaries, right?

00:18:02.000 Wow.

00:18:03.000 A lot of information on this temple.

00:18:05.000 Yeah, you know, today's political debates are largely, I would describe it as the people who actually know what's going on and the people who have no idea what's going on.

00:18:15.000 So the Democrats are composed largely of an ignorant voter bloc that believes what they're being told by the Democrat politicians and Democrat politicians that are intentionally lying.

00:18:25.000 The Trump voter bloc is a mixture of different political ideologies that often disagree quite a bit, but know what's going on in the world.

00:18:34.000 So you'll get, you know, we call them disaffected liberals, people who used to be Democrats who are now like, y'all have gone crazy.

00:18:40.000 My favorite part of last night with Donald Trump's State of the Union is when he pointed to the Democrats and said, these people are crazy because they're trying to give children sex changes. 0.87

00:18:50.000 You'd think, you'd think going to somebody and being like, don't you think we can draw the line at giving a child a sex change? 0.56

00:18:58.000 And the response from most of the Democrat voters is, that's not happening because they listen to their politicians who are lying.

00:19:06.000 One of my favorite things, actually, I fact-checked this this morning.

00:19:09.000 I'll pull it up for you guys when we get into the CNN, Trump State of the Union address.

00:19:13.000 But Trump says, like, they want to kidnap your kids.

00:19:17.000 He said, they want to take your kids from your parents and then transition their genders without the parents' consent. 1.00

00:19:24.000 There's a big piece of news right now where like 16 states are filing a suit saying we can't allow that to happen.

00:19:29.000 And all of these fact checks get written where they're like, no, Washington did not pass a law saying they can kidnap your kids to give them sex change.

00:19:37.000 The law basically just says if a child is a runaway, they can provide shelter and they have to inform the parents of the runaway's whereabouts unless they're seeking gender-affirming care.

00:19:37.000 Right.

00:19:52.000 So they put one headline saying, no, it's not happening, and then literally three paragraphs down say, yeah, absolutely it is happening.

00:19:58.000 And so I just got to say, bro, I don't care if you're a communist where you're literally like, we should seize all of the means of production.

00:20:05.000 We call this the dirtbag left.

00:20:06.000 They just go, yeah, but the weird thing the Democrats are doing with child sex changes like and the woke stuff, nah, none of that.

00:20:11.000 If you're like economically far left, socialist, communist, or whatever, but you're not violent and all you do is have, have cordial debates that we're friends.

00:20:20.000 Totally friends.

00:20:20.000 Yeah.

00:20:21.000 If you're going around saying you want to give kids sex changes or whatever, then I'm going to be like, you're just a lying psychopath.

00:20:26.000 Evil.

00:20:26.000 Yeah, it's just, it's lunacy.

00:20:29.000 Absolutely insane.

00:20:30.000 But I know a lot wants to invade Cuba.

00:20:33.000 I was going to say, let's get conspiratorial for a second and have some reckless speculation.

00:20:38.000 I think one could argue that this may have been an operation to try to do something in Cuba.

00:20:45.000 I don't see people trying to smuggle drugs from the United States into Cuba.

00:20:48.000 It wouldn't be very lucrative for the drug dealers.

00:20:51.000 You're saying, to clarify, a U.S. intelligence or some kind of U.S. operation.

00:20:57.000 Or like maybe take out Miguel.

00:20:59.000 Maybe do something similar to what they did in Venezuela while we have a lot of our military assets in Iran and everybody's distracted right now.

00:21:06.000 Everybody's pitching and moaning about Iran, Iran, this, Iran, that.

00:21:09.000 No, no, no.

00:21:09.000 Marco Rubio is pulling the distraction.

00:21:12.000 You can't go for the wheel.

00:21:14.000 You're saying, okay, hold on.

00:21:16.000 Just to clarify, you're saying that with Venezuela, we do this pulse blast that knocks out their power and causes their skulls to vibrate. 0.77

00:21:24.000 Discombobulator.

00:21:25.000 Is that what it was?

00:21:25.000 I think so, allegedly.

00:21:27.000 Discombobulators.

00:21:29.000 And then they go in the middle of the night, drop down in Maduro's compound and kidnap him.

00:21:34.000 And then phase two is we get a single speedbutt with 10 people on it and charge the shores of Cuba.

00:21:40.000 Well, I'm sure they were trying to be inconspicuous and maybe got found out.

00:21:45.000 And now Orange trying to claim responsibility because there are four dead.

00:21:48.000 Famously, the Maduro raid had zero dead, so they were very impressed.

00:21:52.000 And maybe the president was feeling emboldened.

00:21:55.000 It's regular speculation.

00:21:56.000 They'd go in the middle of the night.

00:21:57.000 They'd land on Miguel's rooftop and take him.

00:22:00.000 What do we get from them, though?

00:22:01.000 Venezuela, you get oil.

00:22:03.000 Oil?

00:22:04.000 Well, Cuba, we have.

00:22:05.000 1950 Chevy?

00:22:06.000 What do you get from Cuba?

00:22:08.000 Let me tell you about Cuba.

00:22:09.000 Are you familiar with the Cuban Missile Crisis, Bay of Pigs?

00:22:11.000 I am.

00:22:11.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:22:12.000 Right, so the deep concern the U.S. has is 90 miles off the coast of Florida, we've got an adversary.

00:22:18.000 It's not so much just Russia, but the BRICS nations, Venezuela.

00:22:21.000 There's an adversarial nation.

00:22:23.000 It used to be largely Cuba, which was favorable towards us.

00:22:26.000 We actually have a military base, Guantanamo Bay, on the Cuban island.

00:22:31.000 Then they became communist and opposed us.

00:22:34.000 And so you had Russians wanting to put missiles 90 miles off the coast.

00:22:38.000 Yeah, so we very much want, again, like Monroe Doctrine, stay out of our hemisphere.

00:22:43.000 Yes, yes.

00:22:44.000 Well, I think also geopolitically, Cuba is particularly important because if you look at the map in the Gulf of Mexico, the main exit is having to go north or south of Cuba.

00:22:54.000 Cuba is a sort of Taiwan equivalent, if you will, of a way of blocking trade and shipments from large parts of the United States.

00:23:02.000 So part of the reason why China wants to take back Taiwan is to get those critical shipping lanes.

00:23:06.000 If you look to go through the Gulf of Mexico, you have to pass Cuba. 0.73

00:23:10.000 And it's sort of, you know, an island just directly a threat to the United States.

00:23:14.000 And then I think the leftovers from the Cuban missile crisis and then also so many refugees, Cuban refugees that left Cuba, came to America, continue to influence our politics right now.

00:23:23.000 Marco Rubio is famously a descendant of Cuban immigrants.

00:23:28.000 So yeah, that plays into a lot of this.

00:23:31.000 He's been famously a hawkish senator from Florida prior to this, where there is a large Cuban population.

00:23:37.000 That largely influences this thing.

00:23:38.000 I have a question real quick before we go to the next segment a lot.

00:23:40.000 You know how, like, when we're talking about the Middle East, some people say just turn it to glass.

00:23:45.000 You know how they say that?

00:23:46.000 Like, the implication is if you drop a series of nuclear bombs, it will melt and then fuse all of the sand.

00:23:46.000 Yeah.

00:23:54.000 What would the equivalent for Cuba be?

00:23:57.000 Turn it to.

00:24:01.000 I think a nuclear bomb would probably do the same thing.

00:24:01.000 I don't know.

00:24:04.000 But there's not sand.

00:24:05.000 Turn their beaches to glass.

00:24:07.000 I mean, turn them back into the ocean.

00:24:08.000 Turn them back to the glass.

00:24:09.000 See, because like turning it to glass is like, you might not get it.

00:24:12.000 You go, oh, now I get it.

00:24:13.000 But if we talk, if we said we're going to turn to a smoldering crater, you'd be like, is the only reason, given the Monero doctrine, though, the only reason that the U.S. never took Cuba from the communists, because like we have Guantanamo Bay there, is it just because of the ramifications of what it would do in other countries?

00:24:31.000 It's because the neocons are weak.

00:24:33.000 They talk a big game.

00:24:34.000 They talk.

00:24:35.000 I mean, seriously.

00:24:36.000 The neocons have consistently talked a big game and failed every step of the way.

00:24:36.000 Right.

00:24:40.000 Or was it allowed to be?

00:24:41.000 It's the neocons vengeance right now.

00:24:43.000 Marco Rubio.

00:24:44.000 They took down Venezuela.

00:24:45.000 Don't tease them.

00:24:46.000 Right now is a bad time to tease the neocons with what's going on in Iran right now.

00:24:50.000 Regular humans.

00:24:51.000 What is a neocon?

00:24:52.000 It's neoconservative as a reference to like Bush.

00:24:54.000 Okay.

00:24:55.000 Bush aeropolitics.

00:24:55.000 No, but here's what neocon really is.

00:24:57.000 If you are willing to go to war for anything, then you are a neocon.

00:25:00.000 In effect, in politics, when you support any conflict anywhere for any reason, you are a neocon.

00:25:06.000 Let me give you the...

00:25:07.000 That's how it works in actual politics.

00:25:08.000 Neocon is a tribal reference to a group of people, but there are ideologies that people would then associate with what we would call neoliberal and neoconservative.

00:25:16.000 It's actually quite simple.

00:25:17.000 Hillary Clinton is neoliberal.

00:25:19.000 What does that mean?

00:25:20.000 She's on the liberal side of American politics, but she wants to, well, no, now. 0.79

00:25:25.000 Well, I feel like if you support that, like my family, my other side of the family is liberal, but not bluehead liberal.

00:25:30.000 They're like Bill Clinton liberal, like Bill Clinton Democrat.

00:25:33.000 You know what I mean?

00:25:34.000 Like, like could have a conversation.

00:25:36.000 Hillary Clinton is in favor.

00:25:37.000 Well, she actually recently came out against illegal immigration.

00:25:40.000 But yeah, even if you get votes, though, is she leaning towards this psychotic way? 1.00

00:25:46.000 So neoliberal and neoconservative refers to the uniparty establishment force in the United States.

00:25:52.000 They're very much in favor of invading foreign countries to maintain the liberal economic order, things like that.

00:25:57.000 So we call Hillary Clinton a crotchety, a crotchety old neoliberal lady. 1.00

00:26:01.000 And neo, it's like, it's a stupid way to describe it because neo, of course, references like a new generation.

00:26:08.000 And so they were calling Bush neoconservative because they're conservatives, but they want to go and invade.

00:26:15.000 And so it defined this tribal group.

00:26:17.000 But then based off of their worldview, we now have this general idea of what these words mean.

00:26:21.000 So you vote for the Mitt Romneys, the McCains, you get invasion of Iran.

00:26:26.000 Hey, surprise, surprise, Trump might get us that anyway.

00:26:29.000 Neoconservative is out of the UK, Bernard Lewis, who is the father of Samuel Huntington, who wrote books that influenced the Bush administration.

00:26:41.000 So the Bush, Cheney, those are like sort of the arch neocons, but it's actually out of the UK from Bernard Lewis.

00:26:47.000 And then they are also influenced by Leo Strauss, who was influenced by Hitler.

00:26:51.000 But they also have an influence.

00:26:53.000 The guy that made jeans?

00:26:55.000 Strauss.

00:26:56.000 No.

00:26:57.000 Levi Strauss.

00:26:58.000 Leo Strauss.

00:26:59.000 It's a joke.

00:27:00.000 It was an hungry joke.

00:27:01.000 Jeans were made actually, I think, originally for communist purposes.

00:27:04.000 No, no, no.

00:27:06.000 Blue jeans was like American. 0.83

00:27:06.000 The suits were actually. 0.83

00:27:08.000 It was like mining.

00:27:10.000 Well, they wanted to have a standard for like in a company town, like everybody had the same outfit.

00:27:16.000 So I'm not saying they make profits.

00:27:18.000 I'm just saying like a company town, you could say it's Levi Strauss invented blue jeans, and it was in the United States.

00:27:27.000 Denim work pants.

00:27:28.000 But it was made by San Francisco.

00:27:30.000 Company town.

00:27:31.000 You made everything.

00:27:32.000 What are you kidding me?

00:27:33.000 You mean in the U.S., it was like company towns?

00:27:35.000 Like a company town is not really a capitalist institution.

00:27:39.000 Like they make money, but like you have to buy everything from the company town.

00:27:43.000 Well, I disagree with that.

00:27:44.000 I mean, if there's a barren wasteland and a company is like, we need to import a bunch of people and there's no industry here, then they have to create means by which people can choose to buy food.

00:27:54.000 But it's not classical libertarian free market if everybody has to shop at the company town.

00:27:59.000 It might be the.

00:28:00.000 But again, the point is, if no town exists and they build it, they're sure it's like a commissary.

00:28:07.000 There's other options, right?

00:28:08.000 So I wouldn't call it communist.

00:28:09.000 Well, it's called monopolistic.

00:28:12.000 Okay, but I mean, if you're a libertarian, monopolistic capitalism isn't classical libertarianism.

00:28:17.000 Also.

00:28:18.000 Again, so like if I personally have a private piece of land and I hire a bunch of people and they're like, hey, there's no restaurants anywhere.

00:28:25.000 What do we eat?

00:28:26.000 And I go, all right, I guess I'll have the crew come and open up a restaurant, but you got to pay for the food.

00:28:29.000 Is that communism?

00:28:30.000 It's, I mean, again, monopoly capitalism isn't really.

00:28:34.000 Hold on, this is not, this is, this is not an issue of there's no competition.

00:28:38.000 Like, it's an issue.

00:28:39.000 It is.

00:28:39.000 No, no, no.

00:28:39.000 There is no competition.

00:28:40.000 I mean, it's an issue of there's no competition, not forcing people to do anything.

00:28:43.000 So is the alternative I just go, you know what, guys?

00:28:45.000 I'm going to open a restaurant where only I get to eat.

00:28:47.000 You're actually not allowed to eat it because I don't want to be a communist.

00:28:49.000 Right.

00:28:49.000 But this is the same argument as to why people would own an entire water supply.

00:28:55.000 Right.

00:28:55.000 So if you privatize water, then no one has a right to the water.

00:28:58.000 But I'm not talking about that.

00:28:59.000 I'm saying there's a company town could own the water.

00:29:02.000 Indeed.

00:29:03.000 What right do you have to take it?

00:29:04.000 That's communist.

00:29:05.000 It's not communist to have public municipalities.

00:29:10.000 Wait, what?

00:29:11.000 It's not.

00:29:12.000 I own a swath of land and I invite you to come work on it.

00:29:16.000 I have to now relinquish my right to the water body and my property.

00:29:19.000 No, I'm saying if you're going to create a society or civilization and you have, if you own the entirety of company towns.

00:29:25.000 We're talking about a company town.

00:29:26.000 Well, that's the beginning of a civilization, right?

00:29:28.000 Right.

00:29:28.000 It's no different.

00:29:29.000 So the point you bring up is that if I own, let's say, 100 acres and I have a grain mill on it, and then I can't produce that much.

00:29:41.000 So a handful of people are like, howdy good, sir.

00:29:44.000 We could increase the output of the grain if you give us, if you let us come.

00:29:48.000 And I say, all right, you know what?

00:29:49.000 I'm going to actually, I'll pay you guys a share of the grain that you mill.

00:29:53.000 Thank you for voluntarily coming and offering this service.

00:29:56.000 They then say, there's nowhere to eat for miles.

00:29:58.000 And I go, well, unfortunately, if I were to create something by which you could purchase food, that would be communism.

00:30:03.000 So no.

00:30:04.000 It's not communism.

00:30:06.000 So then if I, as the landowner and the company owner, then say, I will open a restaurant on the property from which you can purchase goods, that's the beginning of communism.

00:30:14.000 So, but you're describing a situation of a small microcosm where there's no competition.

00:30:18.000 Like a company town.

00:30:19.000 Right, where there's no competition.

00:30:21.000 Doesn't capitalism require competition?

00:30:24.000 And who's stopping people from opening a restaurant across the street?

00:30:27.000 Well, you would if you have a company town.

00:30:29.000 No, If I own property and- You said monopoly capitalism, you would be then stopping the competition in a monopoly capitalist situation.

00:30:36.000 No, no, no, no.

00:30:37.000 We're talking about a company town, right?

00:30:39.000 Privately owned property.

00:30:40.000 So do they have to relinquish their water rights?

00:30:44.000 If the city, if it grows to a certain size where you begin to have competition, that's literally communism.

00:30:49.000 No, it's not.

00:30:50.000 Seizing the assets from the private landowners.

00:30:52.000 No, literally going to a guy who owned land and says, there's too many people here now, so your water is ours.

00:30:58.000 That's competition.

00:31:01.000 No, no.

00:31:02.000 If you grow to where you have a society that requires competition, then the people can seize your assets.

00:31:07.000 Agreed.

00:31:08.000 We're communists.

00:31:10.000 If there's competition.

00:31:11.000 But first of all, by the way, Marx was a libertarian.

00:31:15.000 So it begets really.

00:31:16.000 What I'm talking about.

00:31:17.000 I don't care about Marx.

00:31:18.000 Marx was a liberal.

00:31:18.000 Well, you're accusing me of communism.

00:31:20.000 Then that's not accusing you.

00:31:22.000 I'm arguing if your argument is private land ownership is void upon excess population.

00:31:29.000 That's literally a function of communism.

00:31:32.000 That's what the Venezuelans did. 0.58

00:31:33.000 What you're describing is literally just communism itself.

00:31:37.000 A company town is essentially the same as a communist setup.

00:31:40.000 It is not.

00:31:41.000 It is identical.

00:31:42.000 Absolutely.

00:31:42.000 It's completely.

00:31:43.000 I don't know.

00:31:43.000 So the people own the land in a company town?

00:31:46.000 In a company town.

00:31:48.000 The people have in it.

00:31:52.000 If we're talking about the structures of communism by which there is a private committee, and there's two ways we can look at it, your argument seems to fuse together both the authoritarian dictatorship components and the economic – That's monopoly capitalism.

00:32:07.000 That's where you're arguing.

00:32:08.000 If the argument is people can voluntarily choose to come and work for a company, but there is no competition because there's no market reason for it.

00:32:15.000 It's not communism.

00:32:16.000 It's just a monopoly, but there's no oppression and it doesn't matter because you can always choose to leave.

00:32:22.000 You can always choose to leave if you're out in the middle of nowhere.

00:32:25.000 In the West.

00:32:25.000 Why did you go there?

00:32:27.000 Again, bro, I got to tell you, if the argument is I have no choice in my circumstances, therefore I should get public rights, it's literally this guy's a communist.

00:32:37.000 So then leave, right?

00:32:38.000 Why can't you leave?

00:32:39.000 Well, you can say that, but in a company town, especially like in situations when in the 1800s company towns were being set up, you didn't have the ability to just leave, right?

00:32:46.000 Why not?

00:32:47.000 Well, but they're holding you at gunpoint.

00:32:50.000 I mean, well, if you're under a contract, you might have to be there.

00:32:52.000 Why did you sign the contract?

00:32:53.000 Well, again.

00:32:54.000 Is it communism to voluntarily enter into an agreement with a company?

00:32:57.000 Yeah, but you can call it voluntary.

00:32:59.000 Even there's situations where something can be voluntary that you're actually locked into, right?

00:33:03.000 I mean, I can.

00:33:03.000 You chose to enter into a contract.

00:33:05.000 If Amazon owns an entire area and it's the only place to work, then to say, well, you can move and you can.

00:33:13.000 But it's, yeah, but it's still a form of wage slavery, right?

00:33:16.000 You don't think there's such a thing as I think that's commie talk.

00:33:19.000 Well, I think this is quite literally the arguments of Chavez and the arguments of Bernie Sanders.

00:33:25.000 And my point that I often bring up to these leftists is, what's stopping you from just being a vagrant on federal land?

00:33:34.000 There's no difference.

00:33:35.000 You want from my system without input.

00:33:39.000 And that is the component of the left that I disagree with.

00:33:42.000 No, your argument is a leftist argument, actually.

00:33:44.000 That people should have to work.

00:33:46.000 Classical liberalism is a leftist position.

00:33:48.000 You argue classical liberalism.

00:33:50.000 What I'm arguing.

00:33:50.000 That's a classical position.

00:33:52.000 What I'm arguing for merit-based capitalism is leftist.

00:33:56.000 Yes.

00:33:56.000 Classical liberalism out of the Enlightenment.

00:33:58.000 That is incorrect.

00:33:59.000 No.

00:33:59.000 Out of the Enlightenment.

00:34:02.000 The origin of the left is the left aisle in the French Revolution referring to those who wanted a socialist, anti-monarchist, and the right wanted a top-down monarchist system.

00:34:14.000 Okay.

00:34:15.000 So your argument.

00:34:16.000 Not in the French Revolution.

00:34:17.000 No.

00:34:17.000 It was the French Revolution.

00:34:18.000 It was the left and the right.

00:34:19.000 The French Revolution wanted a constitutional monarchy on the right, and they wanted private property on the right.

00:34:26.000 The leftist wanted communism.

00:34:28.000 Indeed.

00:34:29.000 So when we say left and right in an economic sense, it refers to left meaning communal, right, meaning closer to laissez-faire.

00:34:35.000 That's classical liberalism, which is against the traditional position of church and state.

00:34:39.000 And this is the state.

00:34:41.000 This is the argument that Carl makes about liberalism now.

00:34:45.000 What's the argument?

00:34:49.000 I'm only saying that they're similar.

00:34:52.000 That liberalism is actually a creation of the left and that the ultimate form.

00:35:00.000 I am not advocating for, in this circumstance, classical liberalism.

00:35:04.000 I'm advocating for private rights.

00:35:06.000 But the point that I'm making is his perspective is similar to Carl's perspective, you make it.

00:35:06.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:35:11.000 Sure, but that's immaterial to the argument being made.

00:35:14.000 It's not because you're saying that you're a socialist, you're a Marxist, but what I'm arguing would be the same as any medieval village philosophy.

00:35:21.000 And they weren't Marxists or socialists back in the Middle Ages.

00:35:23.000 Like you went to the French village.

00:35:25.000 Okay, again, the core of your argument is there's a private landowner.

00:35:31.000 20 years later, there's now 300 people working in this land.

00:35:36.000 We now transfer the private rights from the landowner to a communal function.

00:35:41.000 Again, it's complex when you have something like the total ownership of something like a water supply, right?

00:35:47.000 So when you have people that need that, that's different than a situation where Nestle's trying to buy an entire country's private water supply.

00:35:55.000 So again, the issue was company towns.

00:35:57.000 I have 100 acres.

00:35:59.000 I own the body of water on that land.

00:36:01.000 I invite a bunch of people to work.

00:36:02.000 They say, I'll work here.

00:36:03.000 I need a place to stay.

00:36:04.000 I say, I'll bid you a house.

00:36:05.000 They say, where do I get food?

00:36:06.000 I'll build a store.

00:36:07.000 And they say, we need water.

00:36:08.000 I say, I'll set up a water pump for you.

00:36:10.000 That's communism.

00:36:11.000 Well, let's go to the rights then because you're arguing that you have this right as a company owner.

00:36:16.000 And I would agree, but on what basis do you have those rights?

00:36:19.000 Because classical liberalism lost this whole argument, but it came out.

00:36:22.000 I don't know why you're bringing up classical liberalism.

00:36:23.000 It's not a problem.

00:36:24.000 That's your position.

00:36:25.000 No, it isn't your ethical.

00:36:27.000 You're not aware of that, but it is your position.

00:36:28.000 No, you're throwing a blanket to encompass one point and combine it with a bunch of other points you're going to be doing.

00:36:33.000 Because your arguments come out of that ethos, whether you know it or not, they're classical liberalism.

00:36:37.000 And you can have varying ideologies mix and match.

00:36:39.000 Let's make an argument on what I actually think.

00:36:40.000 That's the basis for the rights.

00:36:42.000 The basis for the right to own private property.

00:36:45.000 Well, now your ethos.

00:36:48.000 So I argue that the rights of man are derived from the will or the duties God bestows upon man.

00:36:53.000 The requirements that we have from God, which is be fruitful and multiply, require a handful of things for which we recognize in the United States that we allow other people to do.

00:37:03.000 Fully recognizing that other groups have different ideas of what rights are.

00:37:07.000 So I would argue rights are we need to be able to communicate, we need to be able to protect ourselves, and we need to be secure in our possessions.

00:37:13.000 These are principal rights that we struggle to survive without.

00:37:18.000 As the basis of this is look at communism in general in the Soviet Union.

00:37:23.000 And when you don't have property rights, congratulations, look what happens.

00:37:26.000 When you have mass monopolization and oligopoly, you get something similar.

00:37:30.000 So in a simple sense, certainly it is my moral worldview and faith-based structures that define what I think someone has an inherent claim to.

00:37:40.000 Progressives think you have an inherent claim to someone else's labor, which would just, I would describe as slavery.

00:37:45.000 So when it comes to the idea of private land ownership, the argument is fully understanding population expansion can come to a point where some people will never own land.

00:37:54.000 But the idea is I need to be secure in my possessions to know and prepare for harsh winters, for instability, so that I can survive, so that I can be fruitful, and that I can multiply.

00:38:06.000 So you appeal to Genesis and God.

00:38:09.000 What God?

00:38:10.000 What principles of Genesis tell you that?

00:38:12.000 What are you talking about?

00:38:13.000 I'm not a Christian.

00:38:15.000 Then how are you going to base this argument for rights in God?

00:38:19.000 What do you mean?

00:38:20.000 What God?

00:38:21.000 My God, my moral worldview.

00:38:23.000 So it's not a universal principle.

00:38:24.000 It's just subjective.

00:38:26.000 Well, I think to a lot of people, they have a moral worldview and a philosophical understanding of some things and not others.

00:38:31.000 And I base mine largely on, first, I would argue that perhaps there are greater moral philosophies than the Christian moral structures.

00:38:39.000 We just don't know them yet.

00:38:40.000 I would say historically, based upon what we have seen throughout the world and what we think we know, the Christian moral worldview has been dramatically superior to other moral structures. 0.51

00:38:50.000 That being said, I am not a Christian and I don't believe in the faith structures they have. 0.61

00:38:56.000 However, I have recognized that the moral structures of a Christian society tend to make life more successful for individuals, which is ultimately beneficial to the standard function of life, which is organizing complex, organizing free energy into complex systems.

00:39:11.000 So just utilitarianism, because it works well.

00:39:14.000 That was utilitarian.

00:39:16.000 You're wrong.

00:39:17.000 That's utilitarianism.

00:39:18.000 No.

00:39:19.000 Jay, if you don't have an argument for what I said, stop trying to blanket it with something else as a straw man.

00:39:24.000 Argument was utilitarianism.

00:39:26.000 You didn't make it.

00:39:27.000 It's literally not.

00:39:28.000 I did.

00:39:29.000 We can talk about.

00:39:30.000 Why is it not utilitarian?

00:39:31.000 Well, we can talk about deontological ethos.

00:39:32.000 We can talk about.

00:39:33.000 It has nothing to do with.

00:39:34.000 No, indeed.

00:39:35.000 My point is.

00:39:36.000 Enlightenment.

00:39:36.000 Instead of arguing what I said, you're going, you're arguing thing.

00:39:40.000 I'm like, well, I gave you a specific outline.

00:39:42.000 So I'm giving you the problem with utilitarianism.

00:39:44.000 I'm sorry that you're not aware of the problems with that.

00:39:46.000 I'm sorry that you can't actually address what I told you.

00:39:48.000 I'm addressing it now, which is that utilitarian arguments are pragmatic and it's not a justification.

00:39:53.000 Great.

00:39:53.000 I'm not a utilitarian.

00:39:55.000 But you made a utilitarian argument.

00:39:57.000 A component of some, perhaps.

00:39:59.000 So I don't believe in utilitarianism because that would sacrifice individuals.

00:40:03.000 Again, do you know what deontological moral ethos is?

00:40:06.000 Okay, great.

00:40:06.000 Yeah, it's complex.

00:40:07.000 So when you say something like you're utilitarian, and then I bring up, we do not take immoral actions against an individual for the betterment of the.

00:40:16.000 I know.

00:40:17.000 So why are you bringing up Kant?

00:40:19.000 You are making an argument.

00:40:21.000 The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, which I did not say.

00:40:25.000 You can have different types of utilitarianism.

00:40:27.000 You have to have that.

00:40:29.000 Instead of arguing the point that I made.

00:40:30.000 You have a pragmatic point.

00:40:31.000 You argued a pragmatic point.

00:40:33.000 Argue the point I made.

00:40:34.000 Stop trying to blanket into other.

00:40:36.000 How does pragmatism justify the rights?

00:40:39.000 That's what you argued.

00:40:40.000 Okay.

00:40:40.000 I made an argument about private land ownership as a benefit to human survival.

00:40:45.000 Pragmatic.

00:40:45.000 Right.

00:40:46.000 So address what I said.

00:40:46.000 Okay.

00:40:48.000 How does appealing to the power of the system?

00:40:49.000 I made a point.

00:40:50.000 You make yours addressing what I said.

00:40:52.000 Yeah, that's not a justification.

00:40:53.000 It's a bad argument.

00:40:54.000 Explain why.

00:40:55.000 Because appealing to things that work or pragmatism isn't a justification.

00:41:00.000 Explain why I'm wrong about the requirement of private land ownership for survival.

00:41:04.000 You grounded the right in utilitarianism and pragmatism, and I'm saying that's not a good justification.

00:41:08.000 It's a bad argument.

00:41:10.000 So explain it.

00:41:11.000 Because anything that works could be all over the place.

00:41:14.000 That could be subjective.

00:41:15.000 Indeed.

00:41:16.000 That was my point in which I said there are probable moral structures that work better we have not discovered yet.

00:41:23.000 Then it's not a justification.

00:41:24.000 So you don't know.

00:41:25.000 So if it's a future thing that you haven't figured out yet, then you don't know right now that it would be a justification.

00:41:30.000 I understand certain principles of gravity and the speed at which things fall, but we don't know for sure how the structures work.

00:41:37.000 And it wouldn't.

00:41:38.000 We operate based on probabilities.

00:41:40.000 But then that would not work to justify the rights as grounded in an unknown.

00:41:40.000 Right.

00:41:45.000 Then go jump off a building and see how it works for you.

00:41:47.000 You told me I have to, so I have to.

00:41:48.000 Go jump off a building and see how it works because you don't know gravity.

00:41:50.000 It's a future thing you haven't figured out yet.

00:41:52.000 We operate on probabilities based on what we think we know because we actually don't know.

00:41:56.000 But that doesn't ground a right.

00:41:58.000 That's the point.

00:41:59.000 In future probabilities?

00:42:01.000 I asked you for the grounding for the right to private property.

00:42:04.000 So far, human history has proven private land ownership is beneficial to human existence.

00:42:10.000 That's a circular argument.

00:42:12.000 I'm asking how you know that it benefits and what does it mean to benefit?

00:42:14.000 And you're saying because it was good.

00:42:15.000 It makes more of it.

00:42:17.000 That's a circular argument.

00:42:18.000 Why?

00:42:19.000 Well, why maybe making more of it's bad?

00:42:21.000 It's certainly not.

00:42:22.000 Okay, but why not?

00:42:24.000 That's the point.

00:42:25.000 That's why it's a circle.

00:42:26.000 Well, let's go back to the origin of what we think we know.

00:42:30.000 Again, because everything we think, everything is rooted in what we think we know, right?

00:42:34.000 Some people think the earth is flat.

00:42:35.000 They're probably wrong.

00:42:36.000 But honestly, I've not done the experiments myself to a great degree.

00:42:40.000 I've just been in a plane.

00:42:42.000 So if we go back to, again, the roots of science, we can take a look at a few things.

00:42:46.000 Free energy tends to coalesce into complex systems, starting with the baser elements, or we can say quirks, I'm sorry, quarks into particles, into atoms, into elements, into compounds.

00:43:00.000 At some point, for some reason, you get gravity, likely because if you're familiar with our current understanding of gravity, mass creates attraction, et cetera.

00:43:10.000 And this results in certain masses coming together.

00:43:13.000 Eventually, you'll get something like a gas giant.

00:43:14.000 You'll get something that compresses, then ignites fusion, and you get a sun.

00:43:17.000 We get all this stuff.

00:43:18.000 Then you get an earth.

00:43:19.000 Earth is the result of certain things slamming together, creating a bunch of complex elements through process of fusion, et cetera.

00:43:25.000 And then at some point on Earth, for some reason, again, we don't really know for sure, these molecules and compounds start forming self-replicating proteins.

00:43:34.000 Again, in modern science, the one thing we recognize is that there is greater entropy and limited entropy, negative entropy, can only exist in a slightly greater entropic system.

00:43:44.000 But we do see free energy organizing into complex systems throughout the earth and in the universe.

00:43:49.000 That's what we monitor.

00:43:50.000 Eventually, these complex systems ultimately become multi-the-cellular organisms, single cells, and multicellular organisms, by which they then create complex organism systems.

00:44:00.000 They create ecosystems.

00:44:02.000 Now you've got a squirrel planting a nut growing a tree.

00:44:04.000 The tree then drops the food for the squirrel.

00:44:05.000 And now you've got two distinct life forms that form a complex system within its own free energy.

00:44:11.000 And then we get to the craziest part with humanity in the creation of abstract complex systems.

00:44:15.000 That is, humans give names to things that don't exist anywhere in reality except in the energy transference between the mind and the vibrations between their mouths.

00:44:24.000 So what we then see is the function of life is negative entropy within a larger entropic system.

00:44:31.000 If we, as life, which are driven to reproduce and are, and we typically associate all of those things with being good and enjoyable, like having kids, having Christmas morning, then we track, based on what we have seen throughout the earth, what is the most beneficial to that?

00:44:46.000 There are a few answers for this.

00:44:48.000 Islam could be one of them. 0.81

00:44:49.000 They've certainly been massively successful, have lots of kids.

00:44:52.000 We can take a look at Africa and say, certainly, that is beneficial.

00:44:55.000 However, I would make the argument that the European cultures that developed science, space travel, cures for diseases, and then effectively colonized the whole planet, as well as the Asian cultures, have proven greatly that these moral worldviews lend themselves greater to the ectropic system within the entropy.

00:45:13.000 And then we would say, well, it's maybe a toss-up, but I do think that the American Judeo-Christian or just Christian moral values, which include things like private property, have lended itself to the formation of complex systems.

00:45:28.000 That is, life expansion and all the things that we cherish in the world.

00:45:33.000 And thus, those are the things we aim for.

00:45:36.000 Certainly, these things are very subjective, and some people believe other things.

00:45:39.000 Some people might think it's better to watch the whole world burn because humans are a virus that spread like a plague.

00:45:44.000 I don't believe that, but I do recognize I can't convince other people, nor do I know everything.

00:45:49.000 So, in the end, I ultimately conclude: if we want people to have families and have kids, private land ownership is probably the best thing we can do.

00:45:57.000 That's a good story, but it doesn't get to grounding or justification for why the right is actually something that is grounded in God.

00:46:04.000 So, storytelling is one thing.

00:46:06.000 It's grounded in God because God commands us to be fruitful and multiply.

00:46:06.000 Yeah, right.

00:46:10.000 And the but you don't accept that revelation, so it's just a dispute.

00:46:14.000 I do appeal to.

00:46:15.000 Well, you said you're not a Christian.

00:46:16.000 Indeed, just because you're not a Christian, you can't believe some things Christians believe. 0.94

00:46:20.000 Well, but I mean, you could do that, but it's not a consistent position, is all I'm saying.

00:46:25.000 It's a consistent position to believe that humans should be fruitful and multiply.

00:46:28.000 I didn't argue that I believe Jesus died on the cross.

00:46:31.000 But to pick and choose elements of the worldview as a grounding for rights and private property is what you're saying.

00:46:36.000 Is something that everyone will do?

00:46:39.000 But that's another fallacy.

00:46:41.000 The fact that people do it, I don't have to confine myself to one of someone else's books.

00:46:46.000 These are fallacies.

00:46:48.000 The fact that people do things doesn't have anything to do with whether that's correct or whether that's right.

00:46:52.000 I agree.

00:46:53.000 Then you're admitting it's a fallacy.

00:46:55.000 No, you're arguing that if I believe one thing from Christianity, I have to believe everything.

00:47:00.000 No, again, it was an argument about grounding the idea of private property.

00:47:04.000 So maybe you're not familiar with what grounding is.

00:47:06.000 That just means giving an epistemic justification for why that's the case.

00:47:09.000 Good reasons.

00:47:10.000 And so, what's yours?

00:47:12.000 Well, I believe the Christian worldview, and I would defend that.

00:47:14.000 And now explain it.

00:47:15.000 But it's coherent.

00:47:16.000 It's consistent.

00:47:17.000 How?

00:47:17.000 Right.

00:47:18.000 Well, if you don't have that worldview, you are immediately caught in a bunch of contradictions.

00:47:22.000 Like picking and choosing.

00:47:22.000 Like what?

00:47:24.000 Like what?

00:47:25.000 Like picking and choosing.

00:47:26.000 Well, I'll believe this thing and then I won't believe this thing.

00:47:28.000 That wouldn't be consistent.

00:47:29.000 What things are contradictory?

00:47:30.000 What are you talking about?

00:47:32.000 Well, to say that we do it because it works is a contradiction.

00:47:36.000 Why?

00:47:37.000 Because it's a fallacy.

00:47:38.000 Works to do what?

00:47:40.000 Explain your idea.

00:47:42.000 I explained the fallacy right there.

00:47:44.000 That's a fallacy.

00:47:46.000 Explaining it?

00:47:47.000 I don't have to.

00:47:48.000 It is.

00:47:49.000 You've contradicted yourself.

00:47:50.000 How?

00:47:51.000 Because that was a contradiction.

00:47:52.000 It's paradoxical.

00:47:55.000 Well, you said one thing was and one thing wasn't, so you're wrong.

00:47:59.000 I'm not going to elaborate.

00:48:02.000 I mean, I have been elaborating.

00:48:03.000 So if you're characterizing my position as not elaborating, I've been very explicit.

00:48:07.000 So what makes the Christian moral worldview on private land ownership?

00:48:12.000 Well, we're made in God's image, so we have the Ten Commandments.

00:48:15.000 It has a position where you can't steal.

00:48:18.000 So that's a basis for private property right there.

00:48:20.000 But I can't just pick and choose.

00:48:22.000 You can't explain it.

00:48:23.000 What do you mean by explaining?

00:48:24.000 Like, is your answer just God said?

00:48:26.000 No, the answer is that your worldview is inconsistent and contradicts.

00:48:30.000 That's a transcendental argument.

00:48:31.000 That's the argument.

00:48:32.000 What is inconsistent about my worldview?

00:48:33.000 You gave no justification for why rights are a thing.

00:48:36.000 You just said because you literally did.

00:48:38.000 That's not a justification.

00:48:39.000 It's a fallacy.

00:48:40.000 That I explain the function of existence.

00:48:43.000 That's not a good argument.

00:48:45.000 Explaining functions.

00:48:46.000 That's not an argument at all.

00:48:47.000 Explaining functions.

00:48:49.000 That's a good idea to justification.

00:48:50.000 That's a bad argument.

00:48:51.000 So you're just saying things.

00:48:52.000 Well, you're just saying things to me.

00:48:54.000 I'm explaining to you how it would work in a college class if you took an epistemology class.

00:48:58.000 You would be getting the same critique.

00:49:00.000 Is your argument God wills it?

00:49:03.000 No.

00:49:04.000 The argument is that the worldview as a whole is coherent and gives a justification and a grounding for the ethics for these things.

00:49:04.000 Then what is.

00:49:12.000 And why explain the coherence of it?

00:49:15.000 Well, if the world is made by God, if we have ethics being made in the image of God based on the Ten Commandments, these kinds of things, then it makes sense why things are wrong and right.

00:49:24.000 Are there other religions?

00:49:26.000 Of course.

00:49:26.000 Do they think you are wrong?

00:49:28.000 That's a fallacy.

00:49:29.000 It doesn't matter.

00:49:30.000 So why wouldn't you?

00:49:32.000 Are there people that don't believe 202 is four?

00:49:34.000 Yeah, sure, sure.

00:49:34.000 My point is.

00:49:35.000 Because it doesn't have anything to do with any.

00:49:36.000 Does that have anything to do with it?

00:49:37.000 Let's try this before we actually go to the next segment.

00:49:40.000 If your argument is I am right and other worldviews are just wrong and don't matter.

00:49:46.000 That's not what I argue.

00:49:47.000 I argue they're contradictory.

00:49:48.000 Okay.

00:49:49.000 I argue yours is contradictory and you're.

00:49:51.000 It is.

00:49:51.000 Well, that's not an argument.

00:49:52.000 I gave you arguments.

00:49:53.000 The argument you gave to me.

00:49:54.000 I showed your contradiction because you said you said that it's true because it works.

00:49:59.000 I didn't say it was true.

00:50:00.000 You said that that's why you believe it.

00:50:02.000 That was the fact that based on what we think we know right now, and there may be better structures we discover in the future, this seems to be the best course of action for promoting human existence.

00:50:12.000 It works.

00:50:13.000 That's an it works argument.

00:50:16.000 I think that's an oversimplification of we act upon probabilities to do the best we can.

00:50:20.000 But again, none of those things work to ground why private property should be something that everybody should accept.

00:50:26.000 I think my argument is it helps people survive better than any system we have.

00:50:32.000 So it works.

00:50:33.000 That's a pragmatic argument, and that doesn't work to justify or ground the position.

00:50:37.000 It certainly does.

00:50:38.000 No.

00:50:38.000 Not in episode 10.

00:50:40.000 Why should we use a fire hose to put out fires? 0.94

00:50:43.000 You keep thinking that working means that it's a justification.

00:50:46.000 That's not what grounding is even asking for.

00:50:48.000 It's a different type of question.

00:50:49.000 I understand, but you are not actually making any point at all other than God wills it.

00:50:53.000 That was not the argument.

00:50:54.000 The argument was that the whole worldview.

00:50:56.000 Your argument is I have a Christian worldview that is.

00:50:58.000 It's a transcendental argument for the whole worldview.

00:51:00.000 And I have that same exact thing.

00:51:02.000 No, you didn't argue that at all.

00:51:04.000 I do.

00:51:04.000 You argued utilitarianism and pragmatism.

00:51:07.000 I argued that the structure of life is organizing free energy into complex systems.

00:51:11.000 But that doesn't tell me what I ought to do.

00:51:13.000 That just says what is.

00:51:14.000 It indeed tells you what you ought to do.

00:51:16.000 Why?

00:51:17.000 How is that universal?

00:51:18.000 You are to be fruitful and multiply.

00:51:19.000 Is that universal?

00:51:20.000 Indeed.

00:51:21.000 How?

00:51:22.000 That life procreates and creates more life?

00:51:24.000 Well, that's a universal claim, but you said that it's subjective to you.

00:51:28.000 Well, no, I recognize that other people believe other things.

00:51:32.000 That's not what universal means.

00:51:33.000 just means is it binding everywhere at all times you said it was subjective to me and i said you said that I said, no, I recognize other people believe other things.

00:51:41.000 That's not what universal means.

00:51:42.000 Other people could perceive that as subjective.

00:51:45.000 Universal means it applies at all times, at all places, to all people.

00:51:49.000 They ought to do this.

00:51:50.000 They should ought to do this.

00:51:51.000 Okay, what is the basis for the ought in your position?

00:51:54.000 The basis for why people should have children. 0.88

00:51:57.000 And have private property or whatever.

00:51:59.000 God wills it.

00:52:00.000 But you don't believe in God in any specific way.

00:52:03.000 So how does that have anything?

00:52:04.000 I literally do believe in God.

00:52:06.000 But you said it's not the Christian God.

00:52:07.000 It's just parts of Genesis.

00:52:08.000 Correct.

00:52:08.000 I don't believe in Christian God.

00:52:10.000 So what's the principle of this God?

00:52:12.000 The principle of God is largely a Christian God.

00:52:16.000 So you do, but don't.

00:52:17.000 I don't get it.

00:52:18.000 Do you have the ability to understand that there are different faith structures?

00:52:23.000 Yeah.

00:52:23.000 By all means, you're allowed to say my religion is wrong.

00:52:25.000 But it has to be coherent.

00:52:26.000 To argue that I don't have a religion, certainly my religion is consistent.

00:52:32.000 Okay.

00:52:33.000 What is the basis for when you know when to pick from what text and which ones to reject?

00:52:38.000 I'd ask the same question of you.

00:52:40.000 Well, that's a two-quote.

00:52:41.000 That's a fallacy.

00:52:42.000 To ask you to define so you can explain.

00:52:44.000 Ask me the question I just asked you is a fallacy in the bay.

00:52:47.000 Yeah.

00:52:48.000 Can you do it or no?

00:52:50.000 Yeah.

00:52:51.000 I don't pick and choose, so I don't have that problem.

00:52:53.000 I accept the totality of the Christian paradigm.

00:52:56.000 So for me, it's not a problem to pick and choose.

00:52:59.000 Orthodox.

00:53:00.000 So are there things in the Bible that you do not adhere to?

00:53:05.000 No.

00:53:06.000 Explain to me, like, there's modernization, correct?

00:53:10.000 Of what?

00:53:12.000 Of the Christian, I don't know.

00:53:14.000 I guess moral structure is what you're supposed to do, what you're not supposed to do.

00:53:17.000 Like, talk to me about Leviticus.

00:53:21.000 What about it?

00:53:22.000 It's a typology.

00:53:23.000 Do you follow it?

00:53:24.000 Are there things to be followed?

00:53:26.000 Yeah, there's principles in Leviticus, sure.

00:53:28.000 Jesus references those.

00:53:30.000 Is it okay to not follow some of them?

00:53:31.000 Is it okay to follow some of them?

00:53:32.000 Well, Jesus, being the one that gave Leviticus as the law would have the ability to decide how it's interpreted.

00:53:38.000 So, yes.

00:53:39.000 Are there things in the Bible that you are supposed to do that you don't?

00:53:42.000 There are temporary ceremonial commands that are fulfilled.

00:53:45.000 So you're talking about like sacrificing animals, sure.

00:53:47.000 Sometimes you do, sometimes you don't.

00:53:49.000 If the principle is that Jesus gave the law and he says how it's exercised and fulfilled, that's not inconsistent.

00:53:56.000 What I don't understand is there are Christians that don't eat meat on Fridays.

00:54:00.000 That's just a fasting position that Catholics do. 0.91

00:54:03.000 Yeah.

00:54:04.000 Is that right or wrong?

00:54:05.000 But what does it have to do with Leviticus?

00:54:07.000 I'm now moving forward and asking you about a specific thing I don't understand, that there are Catholics.

00:54:15.000 They don't eat meat on Fridays.

00:54:18.000 Is that not cool?

00:54:19.000 So again, I think you don't view Catholics as coherent.

00:54:22.000 Right.

00:54:23.000 That is, we'll end the argument there.

00:54:26.000 You view your religious structure as the coherent structure and other structures are incoherent.

00:54:30.000 Okay.

00:54:31.000 I disagree, and we are allowed to disagree that we have two different moral religious worldviews, and that is the inherent disagreement.

00:54:39.000 So in my moral worldview, I believe there is a basis in private ownership because if you are to fulfill God's will of having children, having families, you need a way to control your resources so that you can do that without it being taken from you.

00:54:53.000 I actually think we agree on that point.

00:54:55.000 I do.

00:54:56.000 Yeah.

00:54:56.000 So I don't know why you were arguing when we had completely agreed on that other than to say I'm not a Christian.

00:55:00.000 Because it's not just a question of having the right position, but what are the good reasons for no, it's not.

00:55:07.000 That's what epistemology is.

00:55:08.000 Let's go talk about Trump State of the Union and CNN.

00:55:11.000 And it was fun debating, though.

00:55:12.000 I appreciate it.

00:55:13.000 Did you know what started at all?

00:55:15.000 What?

00:55:15.000 Yuba.

00:55:16.000 Believe by Strauss' comments.

00:55:18.000 Believe by Strauss' comment.

00:55:20.000 Company towns, communism, and I'm sure it'll be an entertaining clip for so many people.

00:55:24.000 But let's talk about Trump's State of the Union because there was one really great point from it.

00:55:28.000 And check out this headline from CNN.

00:55:31.000 Boy, oh boy, Trump's State of the Union left some viewers unconvinced that'll lower the cost of living CNN poll fines.

00:55:38.000 Wow.

00:55:38.000 I saw that headline and I was like, geez, it must have been a pretty awful State of the Union address, guys.

00:55:44.000 As it turns out, instead of headlining the article with Trump's State of the Union viewed positively by masses, which is actually what they concluded, they tried to still make it negative.

00:55:57.000 Some viewers are unconvinced.

00:55:59.000 How many are some viewers?

00:56:00.000 38%.

00:56:01.000 Indeed, my friends, the polls show 63% of people polled by CNN viewed Trump's State of the Union positively.

00:56:11.000 Yet, of course, and this is for you, Jake, when you're talking about how regular people don't know this stuff, when you read a headline that says some people are unconvinced by Trump, according to our poll, the immediate assumption most people make is, wow, Trump must not have done a good job.

00:56:27.000 When in actuality, the poll is Trump won two to one.

00:56:32.000 This is the world that we live in.

00:56:33.000 I thought it was a tremendous State of the Union address.

00:56:37.000 And I think it's more than that.

00:56:39.000 We actually have this.

00:56:40.000 Check this out from CNN themselves.

00:56:43.000 The polling universe here is about 13 points more Republican than the overall population usually is.

00:56:50.000 So just keep all that in mind as we go to the results of our instant poll.

00:56:55.000 Get this reaction from those that watched the speech tonight.

00:56:58.000 38% said they had a very positive reaction to the speech.

00:57:02.000 25% somewhat positive.

00:57:04.000 36% negative.

00:57:06.000 So roughly two-thirds in the positive territory.

00:57:09.000 One-third negative among speech watchers.

00:57:12.000 The poll.

00:57:13.000 Indeed, my friends.

00:57:14.000 So what are we going to do, you guys?

00:57:17.000 I mean, look, it's worth noting that CNN did the poll, and CNN viewers came back two to one saying that it was positive.

00:57:27.000 I imagine if you get a broader, a more broad.

00:57:33.000 I don't know.

00:57:34.000 I think the argument CNN's making is that their viewers are heavily Republican audience.

00:57:38.000 I don't buy that.

00:57:40.000 I think he said of the people who watched two, 13-some odd percent leaned Republicans.

00:57:45.000 So the people viewing would be skewed.

00:57:48.000 Yeah, but it does make sense that pollsters wait for these things.

00:57:52.000 The pollster would intentionally say, well, you want 10 Democrats, 10 independents, and 10 Republicans.

00:57:56.000 They wouldn't just be like, literally anybody, tell me what you thought.

00:57:59.000 That's not doing a poll.

00:58:01.000 I guess if the argument is Democrats don't care about the State of the Union address and tuned out, that would be a great point for them to make.

00:58:09.000 Totally.

00:58:10.000 Look, I do think it was, he did put on a good performance.

00:58:13.000 Trump, always the showman, did a really good job, I think, creating a lot of images for Republicans in the midterm with the constant like applaud and then the Democrats not applauding and the contrast between the two, especially when they're bringing up things for like obviously bringing in the Olympians too.

00:58:29.000 But when they referenced Ina, the woman who got stabbed to death on public transit in Charlotte, and then the Democrats didn't stand up, I think that made for a poll image.

00:58:38.000 So stuff like that.

00:58:39.000 But otherwise, I mean, the State of the Union, I don't think most people tune in.

00:58:44.000 I think after the first 10 minutes, 50% of the people who are watching generally tune out.

00:58:48.000 I think you really know what the president's going to say.

00:58:50.000 Nonetheless, it was a good speech.

00:58:52.000 I was unimpressed.

00:58:53.000 I think Republicans are obviously going to cheer this on because it's the president.

00:58:55.000 And if it was Joe Biden or whatnot, they would say.

00:58:58.000 Why is that?

00:58:59.000 This.

00:58:59.000 This photo.

00:59:00.000 You see that photo?

00:59:01.000 Yes.

00:59:02.000 What do you think about that photo?

00:59:03.000 I see gold medals, baby.

00:59:04.000 That's all I see.

00:59:06.000 You don't see anything else?

00:59:07.000 A guy with a mask on.

00:59:08.000 A guy with a mask on who's all pissed off.

00:59:10.000 Yeah.

00:59:11.000 And this is why, you know, after this speech, you know, Donald Trump says at the speech, he goes, stand up if you agree that the duty of, what do you say, of government is to protect the American citizens, not illegal immigrants.

00:59:24.000 And the Democrats did.

00:59:25.000 They didn't stand up.

00:59:26.000 No.

00:59:27.000 That's wild.

00:59:28.000 Yeah.

00:59:28.000 I mean, but is it a spiteful thing?

00:59:31.000 Is it, well, screw you, Trump.

00:59:32.000 I don't want to stand with you.

00:59:34.000 Or do you really not believe that?

00:59:35.000 I think they don't believe it.

00:59:36.000 And I think there's an easy way to put it.

00:59:38.000 Like, let's say you live in a house and you got two roommates.

00:59:42.000 Okay.

00:59:43.000 And you guys are buddies since grade school.

00:59:46.000 You all love going bowling together.

00:59:47.000 You all completely agree on everything.

00:59:49.000 And then one day a guy comes into your house and he's like, I got nowhere to sleep.

00:59:53.000 I'm sleeping on your couch.

00:59:54.000 And you guys go, well, I don't know.

00:59:56.000 I guess it's okay.

00:59:57.000 Now all of a sudden, this guy votes too.

00:59:59.000 So when you guys are like, what's for dinner?

01:00:00.000 This guy in the capital.

01:00:02.000 You guys are like, pizza night.

01:00:03.000 He goes, no, no, no, I want to do chicken.

01:00:04.000 And you guys go, sorry, bro, it's pizza night.

01:00:07.000 And so then a week later, his buddy comes in and you guys are like, well, I guess it's fine.

01:00:14.000 Now there's two guys on the couch.

01:00:15.000 And one day you go, all right, pizza night.

01:00:18.000 And one of your friends goes, I actually don't mind chicken.

01:00:21.000 And now pizza night's gone.

01:00:23.000 And then third guy shows up and the two guys say, I vote we let him stay.

01:00:28.000 And one of your buddies goes, I think it's fine.

01:00:29.000 Now it's three versus three.

01:00:30.000 And one guy's leaning towards them.

01:00:32.000 Now everything you built, everything you paid for is being voted away.

01:00:36.000 And that's what this is.

01:00:38.000 So when you take a look at like Zorhan Mamdani, when you take a look at Chicago, Chicago's losing the Bears, okay?

01:00:44.000 And I'll tell you why it's losing the Bears, because Chicago is a city of people who never cared for what the Bears were or are.

01:00:51.000 And I left because of the corruption.

01:00:53.000 But let me put it like this.

01:00:54.000 If 100% of the people are like, the Bears, the Bears are going to get all the funding in the world.

01:00:58.000 Everyone's going to do it.

01:00:59.000 So when they say won a new stadium, everyone screams and cheers and says, we're getting a new stadium for the Bears.

01:01:04.000 Over 30 or 40 years, you bring in a bunch of migrants from other countries who don't watch football. 1.00

01:01:09.000 And then what happens?

01:01:10.000 Now it's 60-40.

01:01:11.000 You say, we want to vote to give a billion dollars to the Bears for a stadium.

01:01:14.000 And 40% says no.

01:01:16.000 And only 30% show up in the pro-Bear side to even vote.

01:01:20.000 And now all of a sudden, the Bears are going to Indiana.

01:01:22.000 You can tell I'm pissed off about it.

01:01:24.000 The Indiana Bears.

01:01:26.000 The Indiana Bears.

01:01:27.000 You really think they're going to leave?

01:01:28.000 Yeah.

01:01:29.000 It's a fact.

01:01:30.000 It's confirmed.

01:01:31.000 It's confirmed.

01:01:32.000 That's crazy.

01:01:33.000 They're at Chicago's pride.

01:01:36.000 Chicago's.

01:01:37.000 They got guaranteed rate field with the White Sox.

01:01:41.000 They got Mike Ditka and the Bears.

01:01:43.000 And they're going to just lose that.

01:01:43.000 I know.

01:01:44.000 Indeed.

01:01:45.000 Because of immigrants. 0.99

01:01:45.000 It's over. 0.99

01:01:46.000 Are you telling us?

01:01:47.000 Well, I wouldn't say only immigrants.

01:01:49.000 They have a big part of it, though.

01:01:51.000 It is, but it's cultural degradation.

01:01:53.000 Like, again, this photo.

01:01:54.000 You got these guys wearing USA sweaters and gold medals who just beat Canada.

01:01:58.000 Why is he miserable this way?

01:02:00.000 And, you know, I don't know who this guy is.

01:02:01.000 Maybe his dog died, right?

01:02:03.000 But it really does exemplify the liberals, the left, wearing masks, pissed off, hating America.

01:02:10.000 They won't stand up when Trump is like, are you for the American citizens?

01:02:14.000 And the reality is this.

01:02:16.000 There are two countries.

01:02:18.000 There are two nations.

01:02:19.000 A nation is its people.

01:02:20.000 A country is its borders.

01:02:21.000 And there are two nations within the borders of the United States, a multicultural democracy and a constitutional republic.

01:02:27.000 The constitutional republic are the traditional Americans.

01:02:29.000 You might be liberal.

01:02:30.000 You might be conservative.

01:02:31.000 You might be libertarian.

01:02:32.000 The Democrats represent a multicultural democracy largely of leftist ideologues, Marxists, and immigrants.

01:02:39.000 They don't care about American history.

01:02:42.000 They don't care about the founding fathers.

01:02:43.000 They don't care about the 4th of July.

01:02:45.000 You want to know what else?

01:02:46.000 Chicago don't have the 4th of July anymore.

01:02:48.000 What?

01:02:49.000 It's been gone for years.

01:02:50.000 Yep.

01:02:50.000 Really?

01:02:51.000 What do you mean?

01:02:52.000 Chicago ain't got no 4th of July.

01:02:54.000 They don't deserve the Bears, man.

01:02:55.000 If they don't have 4th of July, they don't do fireworks.

01:02:58.000 They just do gunshots?

01:02:58.000 What do they do?

01:02:59.000 Nope.

01:03:00.000 Yeah.

01:03:03.000 Still in some parts of the city.

01:03:04.000 People will be letting off fireworks.

01:03:06.000 You'll see it all over the place because people do this.

01:03:08.000 And Navy Pier does a private firework ceremony every weekend, but they ended the 4th of July celebration for the city because it is being run by communists who hate America.

01:03:17.000 You guys turned into Detroit over there.

01:03:19.000 So this whole time you've been talking about sports.

01:03:21.000 I thought you were talking about big gay dudes that are hairy. 1.00

01:03:23.000 Bears?

01:03:24.000 Well, Chicago has.

01:03:26.000 Chicago's going to keep their bears.

01:03:28.000 They're all on North Hallstead near Wrigley Field.

01:03:30.000 You're too well versed in the gay lingo. 1.00

01:03:31.000 That's a red flag.

01:03:32.000 That's a huge red flag.

01:03:34.000 I don't know sports hole.

01:03:35.000 Do you know about the handkerchiefs?

01:03:38.000 I don't know.

01:03:40.000 That's what you want to say.

01:03:40.000 That's right.

01:03:41.000 I figured that's what I'm saying.

01:03:42.000 He really does.

01:03:43.000 I don't know.

01:03:45.000 So, you know, and again, we'll say this to, we'll go to the Bears thing in a second because I'm going to go nuts.

01:03:50.000 But the leftists, they say, like, oh, it's all about love.

01:03:55.000 You know, like, you know, two guys they want to get married.

01:03:57.000 It's no big deal.

01:03:58.000 And that was the trick people like me fell for in 2008, 2010, where it's like, yeah, man, I don't care.

01:04:05.000 And then the reality was, and I, and I did kind of know this because my family owned a coffee shop on North Halston, on Halston and Waveland.

01:04:12.000 And what do you find?

01:04:14.000 It's just always been about sex.

01:04:16.000 It's fetishism.

01:04:17.000 It's always fetishism.

01:04:20.000 There was almost never a circumstance where I saw like a guy just hug another guy and say, I love you.

01:04:25.000 It was a bar themed with people being raped in prison.

01:04:30.000 And on the window, it's a guy grabbing the bars.

01:04:33.000 And they are very, yeah, it's not a bad thing.

01:04:35.000 They're not deliberate.

01:04:35.000 And they put handkerchiefs.

01:04:36.000 They're very sexual.

01:04:38.000 So we'll explain this.

01:04:39.000 The handkerchiefs in the pocket.

01:04:41.000 On the left side, it means you take.

01:04:43.000 On the right side, it means you give.

01:04:45.000 Different colored handkerchiefs symbolize different fetishes.

01:04:48.000 And so you walk down the street with the handkerchief in the back.

01:04:52.000 That's why they used to say having your left ear pierced was gay. 0.98

01:04:55.000 No, no, right ear pierced.

01:04:56.000 It was the right ear piercing.

01:04:57.000 They make me gay now. 0.99

01:04:58.000 A right ear?

01:04:59.000 Yeah.

01:05:00.000 Yeah, that's what I thought.

01:05:00.000 If you only had your right.

01:05:02.000 Dude, I thought it was the national earring that made you gay. 0.94

01:05:04.000 That's extremely gay. 1.00

01:05:05.000 And they had it backwards.

01:05:06.000 Well, that's the one you have.

01:05:07.000 Because when I was a kid, I only had my left because I was straight.

01:05:10.000 And then I got earrings and they got another.

01:05:12.000 I'm like, if it's in the left, it means you give, and the right means you take or something.

01:05:12.000 And maybe it's the other way.

01:05:15.000 I don't know.

01:05:15.000 Either way, it's gay.

01:05:16.000 All these codes.

01:05:17.000 Like, I was walking with, I had a handkerchief, and now I'm thinking, like, half of the city was seeing my handkerchief coming out of my pocket.

01:05:24.000 I'm like, now there is.

01:05:25.000 I thought that made you a gang member, but now it just makes you gay. 1.00

01:05:28.000 Gang. 0.66

01:05:29.000 Gang. 0.66

01:05:30.000 Gay gang. 0.99

01:05:31.000 When the gangs don't do that, they don't wear handkerchiefs.

01:05:34.000 What?

01:05:35.000 Cripple bloods? 1.00

01:05:37.000 I'm talking about in Chicago.

01:05:37.000 Of course.

01:05:39.000 You put a handkerchief in your pocket.

01:05:41.000 You're asking for some dude to come up on you.

01:05:43.000 Gang, get up in there. 1.00

01:05:44.000 And the gangs know that.

01:05:45.000 Rough.

01:05:47.000 So there's a bunch of different gang colors.

01:05:50.000 And if you walk around anywhere in gang colors, you're getting stopped.

01:05:54.000 So like my friends, I had a friend who made a mistake of wearing a black shirt with gold basketball shorts.

01:06:00.000 Not good.

01:06:00.000 And a car pulls up and they said, y'all, homie, what you is?

01:06:03.000 What set you banging?

01:06:04.000 And he was, yeah, and he was just like, nothing, bro.

01:06:07.000 And they were like, yo, I said, what you is?

01:06:07.000 What?

01:06:09.000 And he's like, skateboarder?

01:06:10.000 And they started laughing and they drove off.

01:06:13.000 Even if I'm white?

01:06:14.000 If you're a white dude, yeah.

01:06:15.000 Yeah, of course.

01:06:16.000 This isn't just the black thing.

01:06:16.000 No, you could be white, dude.

01:06:18.000 But the Latin kings are black. 0.91

01:06:19.000 They might as well be.

01:06:20.000 Bro.

01:06:21.000 Black-coated.

01:06:22.000 Latin king.

01:06:23.000 Black-coated.

01:06:23.000 Can you be a Latin king?

01:06:24.000 Well, that ain't a white dude.

01:06:25.000 Yes, of course.

01:06:26.000 Can you?

01:06:27.000 Of course.

01:06:28.000 Latin guys.

01:06:28.000 The whites still have gangs, too.

01:06:30.000 I guess white power. 0.79

01:06:31.000 Yeah, man.

01:06:32.000 We have the sharks in the drain.

01:06:33.000 They got the biggest gang in the world.

01:06:35.000 Westside story, and we dance.

01:06:37.000 When you are red, Jay.

01:06:38.000 No, and you guys used to be Italians.

01:06:39.000 You guys used to act up.

01:06:41.000 We're going for it, guys.

01:06:42.000 The most important story ever.

01:06:44.000 We have this in the Chicago Tribune.

01:06:46.000 Governor J.B. Pritzker suggests no matter how Indiana v. Illinois fight goes, the new Bears home won't be in Chicago.

01:06:54.000 And I knew this because Chicago bought, I'm sorry, the Chicago Bears bought land in Arlington Heights, Illinois.

01:06:59.000 And they're looking at a swath of land in Hammond, Indiana, which, to be fair, is basically, it's still a Chicago.

01:07:06.000 Like it's still the metro, but you cross the border.

01:07:08.000 It doesn't matter because Arlington Heights is not Chicago and Hammond is not Chicago.

01:07:12.000 So Pritzker said, let me read this.

01:07:15.000 He was like, I think now there's a common understanding for most of the General Assembly, they're not going to be able to build in the city of Chicago.

01:07:24.000 For at least a year and a half, there's been a significant effort by the Bears as well as Chicago lawmakers and others to try and figure out if the Bears could build what they need to build in the city of Chicago.

01:07:32.000 They looked and they, I think, gave the old college try, so to speak, to try and find a place where within the city of Chicago and they couldn't.

01:07:40.000 So that's why I think we're down to the question of whether they're going to build in Arlington Heights or they're going to build something in the state of Indiana.

01:07:46.000 He said it's very hard to find in a dense city, a dense city like the city of Chicago, he said.

01:07:53.000 This is, I remember when the Redskins lost their name.

01:07:57.000 They lost their mascot and they lost their logo.

01:08:00.000 And we mocked it.

01:08:01.000 But you know, I didn't feel for it.

01:08:03.000 I did.

01:08:04.000 But I did immediately buy Redskins Ziploc bags.

01:08:07.000 I went on Amazon, and I said...

01:08:09.000 They're probably worth a fortune now.

01:08:11.000 Yeah, now $2,000 Ziploc bags.

01:08:13.000 And they're currently locked away in a vault.

01:08:16.000 I'm not joking.

01:08:17.000 They are protected.

01:08:18.000 And I still see people wearing the Redskins, but it's the Commanders.

01:08:22.000 And they have a war pig for their mascot.

01:08:24.000 I like the Washington football team.

01:08:26.000 I thought that was American.

01:08:29.000 I think it's better than the Commanders.

01:08:31.000 I'll trade you three Aunt Jemima's for one Redskin. 1.00

01:08:34.000 I miss Aunt Jemima too.

01:08:35.000 You know, the Aunt Jemima thing really pissed me off as well.

01:08:37.000 You know why?

01:08:38.000 When I saw that box with Aunt Jemima on it, it gave me a warm, fuzzy feeling inside from when I was a kid.

01:08:45.000 We always had a box of Aunt Jemima.

01:08:48.000 We sometimes had Mrs. Butterworth's, but I would make the pancakes.

01:08:51.000 I'd mix it with the milk or whatever.

01:08:53.000 And my view of Aunt Jemima was not that she was.

01:08:56.000 It was not racial and slave.

01:08:59.000 They tell us we're supposed to feel like she was our slave making our breakfast. 0.99

01:09:03.000 I was like, I kind of just viewed it as a nice old lady.

01:09:07.000 Mom was the slave making the breakfast. 0.99

01:09:08.000 Exactly.

01:09:09.000 My white mother.

01:09:10.000 Guys, they have tore down our statues.

01:09:13.000 No, it's so sad about the bears, bro.

01:09:15.000 You guys have sucked for so long.

01:09:18.000 And you finally get this kid, right?

01:09:21.000 You finally get this kid, this team, this tight end, and you finally got a good team.

01:09:26.000 And they're like, yeah, let's get out of here.

01:09:28.000 She's just like, yeah, it's fine.

01:09:29.000 Let's blow this popsicle stand.

01:09:30.000 He had the 80s.

01:09:32.000 And this is when I'm growing up with SNL and Ditka and Dub Bears. 0.89

01:09:36.000 And so the Patriots in the 80s.

01:09:37.000 Hey, look at that.

01:09:39.000 And so let me tell you guys, let me, because I'm going to, I'm going to, I'm ready to just, I'm going nuclear.

01:09:44.000 I remember when they tore down the statue of Jefferson.

01:09:47.000 I remember when they tore down the statue of Columbus.

01:09:50.000 I remember when they tore down the statue of Frederick Douglass.

01:09:54.000 He was a slave.

01:09:55.000 I was going to say, wasn't he black?

01:09:56.000 He got his freedom.

01:09:57.000 He fought slavery.

01:09:58.000 And they tore it down because every argument the radical left makes is not actually the argument.

01:10:04.000 They hate this country.

01:10:05.000 They want to destroy our history and burn it to the ground.

01:10:08.000 And what I see with Illinois and Chicago is, admittedly, okay, I'm going to be logical for you guys.

01:10:15.000 Not the most egregious thing you can do.

01:10:17.000 Like literally tearing down Jefferson is.

01:10:20.000 But in my heart, taking Chicago out of the Bears is like igniting, it's like ripping the souls out of a generation and smashing it with the hammer.

01:10:30.000 It's like taking New York out of the Yankees.

01:10:31.000 It makes no sense.

01:10:33.000 And this is what the Democrats do.

01:10:35.000 They invite people into our cities who are not from here under the guise of multiculturalism.

01:10:41.000 And then one day we find ourselves up for a vote.

01:10:44.000 Do we want to cut a tax break for the Chicago Bears and grant them money so they can have a stadium and be our team?

01:10:53.000 And what happens?

01:10:53.000 The city and the state say no.

01:10:56.000 And they're finally good, too.

01:10:57.000 Finally good for real.

01:10:57.000 I can understand.

01:10:59.000 If they suck, screw it.

01:11:00.000 Get them out of here.

01:11:01.000 But they're good, man.

01:11:02.000 Even if they suck.

01:11:03.000 What do the Cubs truly want?

01:11:04.000 Like you just said, you know, they hate America and everything.

01:11:06.000 Okay, so well, if you have it your way, if you have everything your way and everything you want, what is America if they get what they want?

01:11:14.000 I don't think it's that the Democrats, I wouldn't necessarily say the Democrats liberals.

01:11:19.000 Right.

01:11:19.000 The argument is there is a faction, a political faction in this country that hates this country, views it as evil, and wants to destroy it.

01:11:26.000 Many, many of much of this is guided by manipulations and propaganda from overt communists and socialists who literally want to destroy our economic system and create a communist system.

01:11:36.000 They use these arguments like racism as a vehicle to trick people into voting against their interests.

01:11:42.000 So Democrats as politicians, they're just, you know, like the Democratic Party I would describe as basically just like if you took 200 Candace Owens and told them to go campaign.

01:11:54.000 They're going to just spread around like nasty little NPC and go into each campaign district and just say whatever needs to be said to get the votes.

01:12:03.000 Conservatives, unfortunately, keep fighting.

01:12:05.000 Like Thomas Massey is fighting with the Republicans and the Epstein stuff and they're always going at each other.

01:12:10.000 The Democrats, to a certain degree, sometimes do this with circular firing squads, but they largely march in lockstep.

01:12:16.000 But is there any precedent for communism working?

01:12:19.000 So why do you want the why?

01:12:21.000 At first, you don't succeed.

01:12:22.000 Try again.

01:12:23.000 Yeah.

01:12:25.000 Why?

01:12:25.000 Because America is irredeemably bad because of our history, is what roughly they would say.

01:12:29.000 They would say that we were founded by white supremacist slave owners, and there's no way to reform a broken system like this.

01:12:34.000 Our police department is irredeemably racist.

01:12:37.000 Therefore, we need to completely abolish.

01:12:38.000 There is no reforming.

01:12:39.000 Same with our DHS and ICE and Border Patrol and stuff like that.

01:12:43.000 That's what they would argue.

01:12:44.000 So it's complete abolishment.

01:12:45.000 And then what would replace it?

01:12:46.000 Probably some People's Republic of retards and some socialists think that they could scramble together. 0.99

01:12:51.000 That is the ideology, though.

01:12:53.000 It truly is that we are irredeemably white supremacists and founded.

01:12:58.000 Not only that, the Bill of Rights is not humanistic or maybe you'd want to call them Christian principles, but like beyond that, that they are fundamentally white supremacists.

01:13:07.000 But look, they don't actually believe that.

01:13:09.000 That's what the left argues.

01:13:12.000 If you actually talk to any prominent organizer on the left, I don't mean prominent, they're famous, they will outright tell you they don't think it's white supremacy, but it's a vehicle by which stupid people react.

01:13:26.000 Yeah, and that's because postmodernism has taken over the left and it's all about power.

01:13:31.000 So, you know, ever since the 60s and with like Foucault and stuff, like they, the fall of the Soviet Union was a big deal, right?

01:13:38.000 So it used to be that vulgar Marxism was going to be, which is like economic Marxism, the classes, money class, the property owners versus the bourgeoisie, the working people.

01:13:48.000 I'm sorry, yeah, work versus the working people.

01:13:51.000 And then when the Soviet Union proved that it didn't, you know, that it didn't work and capitalism kind of made it clear that even the workers could have a good life.

01:14:02.000 Then you had people like Herbert Marcuse saying, oh, hey, look, this is all false consciousness.

01:14:06.000 You believe that you're free.

01:14:07.000 You believe that you have a good life, but you don't really.

01:14:10.000 And so what they did is they said, well, we have to find a new place to find the revolutionary energy.

01:14:15.000 And that's when they went into the race communism. 0.54

01:14:16.000 So they said, basically, it turned into racial stuff.

01:14:19.000 I mean, but what I've learned about race from slavery and everything was that, first of all, blacks were not the only slaves.

01:14:26.000 First slave owner was black. 0.88

01:14:27.000 Well, exactly.

01:14:28.000 And they sold themselves.

01:14:29.000 In our country, to be fair, they were disproportionately black.

01:14:33.000 They were.

01:14:34.000 But only when you had a massive amount of property did you have true slaves.

01:14:39.000 I heard that it was a lot like regular people that they kind of were part of the family.

01:14:43.000 Like, you know, you had a slave for real.

01:14:46.000 You had a slave.

01:14:47.000 There was a word for that, but we don't say that.

01:14:48.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:14:50.000 So, so there, hold on, hold on.

01:14:52.000 But there's a lot that liberals don't know about slavery.

01:14:57.000 They think, like, when you ask a liberal to describe slavery, what are they going to tell you?

01:15:02.000 Black men in the field being beaten with a whip.

01:15:04.000 It's like, okay, how about a man in a suit in a store making shoes?

01:15:09.000 That was also slavery. 0.93

01:15:11.000 Even in my liberal college classes when we did American history, they made us watch this video of an interview from probably the 60s or 70s with one of the last living slaves who was still, you know, around.

01:15:22.000 And he said, well, you know, I remember it.

01:15:26.000 It wasn't that bad.

01:15:28.000 And I'm like, oh, man.

01:15:31.000 Wait, what?

01:15:32.000 Oh, God.

01:15:33.000 Well, the thing is, the North was as racist as racist could be.

01:15:39.000 I mean, come on, we had the civil rights era 100 years later.

01:15:41.000 They were wage workers.

01:15:42.000 Right.

01:15:44.000 And the South, it was around 3% of people who owned slaves.

01:15:48.000 So the Civil War, yeah, 3%, because it was wealthy.

01:15:52.000 It was like big companies.

01:15:53.000 You know what I mean?

01:15:54.000 Like, how many people own an Amazon warehouse or like a distribution warehouse?

01:15:59.000 It's like not that many relatively.

01:16:01.000 So how many people need 100 workers working for cheap?

01:16:04.000 The other thing is they never really asked themselves these questions of like, how did slaves buy their own freedom?

01:16:11.000 Because the origin of slavery was that there was an indentured servant to a black man who could not pay off the debt no matter how much like a lifetime of work would not pay off the money owed.

01:16:21.000 So a court ruled he would remain indentured for life, which created de facto slavery.

01:16:26.000 And then, of course, certainly people were bought and sold.

01:16:28.000 All of that was miserably bad, but it was much more complex than you'll get from the average left.

01:16:34.000 So there were circumstances.

01:16:35.000 So then the question is, question I asked a long time ago: hey, how did people buy their own slavery?

01:16:40.000 It doesn't make sense.

01:16:41.000 You're a slave.

01:16:42.000 Oh, well, they were allowed to make money.

01:16:44.000 Okay, so how did it work?

01:16:46.000 Slaves answered to the slave owner, and the slave owner just defined the parameters by which the slave could do things. 0.57

01:16:52.000 That is, there were many slaves where the slave owner would be like, I need you to be a shoemaker, right?

01:16:57.000 We're going to make 10 pairs of shoes.

01:16:59.000 And then the slave would be like, well, what if I do 12?

01:17:02.000 And he goes, if you do 12, I'll give you some money.

01:17:05.000 After the work you are supposed to do, if you're going to do more, we'll pay you.

01:17:09.000 That happened in some circumstances.

01:17:10.000 Some incentives.

01:17:11.000 They saved up.

01:17:12.000 And then eventually one day said, all of that money you gave me, I saved.

01:17:15.000 I want to be a free man.

01:17:16.000 And they'd say, okay.

01:17:18.000 And to be fair, often they go buy more slaves.

01:17:20.000 But it was possible.

01:17:21.000 I think slavery was wrong.

01:17:23.000 It's stupid.

01:17:24.000 It's bad.

01:17:24.000 All that stuff, obviously.

01:17:26.000 But very few people actually own slaves.

01:17:28.000 And slavery was not all just people being beaten.

01:17:30.000 Not that any of it was good.

01:17:32.000 I will say this also isn't unique to the United States.

01:17:35.000 Many other countries have slaves.

01:17:37.000 And some countries around the world still have literal slavery.

01:17:41.000 A lot of Middle Eastern countries and North African countries are heavily involved in slavery.

01:17:45.000 And then there's the de facto slavery and things like happening in the country of like Qatar, where it's like literally slave labor where these people have their passports and whatnot taken away from them.

01:17:55.000 So to go back to your original question, though, is what was the left or liberals' goal in the United States?

01:18:02.000 And for the left, I do think it genuinely is to weaken the United States from inside because they believe that many of our enemies are righteous.

01:18:09.000 So I do think leftists and communists in our country do believe that, you know, the CCP is righteous, that they do think China is good.

01:18:17.000 And they look to them as a model of something that is good and just in the world.

01:18:21.000 And then they look at us as evil and such.

01:18:23.000 And a lot of their rhetoric actually comes from the CCP.

01:18:26.000 These are people born in America.

01:18:28.000 You remember uploating Americans?

01:18:28.000 Yep.

01:18:31.000 You remember when suicidal empathy?

01:18:33.000 You know the BLM fist, right? 0.89

01:18:34.000 Yeah, of course.

01:18:35.000 That's the communist red salute.

01:18:36.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:18:37.000 It's like, imagine if people were walking around with swastikas, identical. 0.97

01:18:40.000 And now we change it to like, you know, Green Lives Matters, but it's a swastika logo.

01:18:45.000 Yeah.

01:18:46.000 So the guy who killed Aaron Danielson had a, it's the communist fist.

01:18:51.000 And you'll see people walking down the street and they'll raise their fist and the fingers face out.

01:18:56.000 That's the communist fist.

01:18:57.000 Black Panther, did they stand for communism?

01:18:59.000 Yes, they were communist.

01:19:00.000 They were communist and that's the communist fist.

01:19:02.000 So the reason why you make a fist and you point the fingers forward is the ethos is the same as the fascists.

01:19:09.000 The fascists had the fascists, which is a bundle of sticks bound together with a blade.

01:19:13.000 It's a weapon.

01:19:14.000 I could have swore that was another word for that.

01:19:16.000 It's the same word.

01:19:17.000 Oh, F-A-G-S? 1.00

01:19:19.000 Yes.

01:19:20.000 Fascists and faggot are the exact same word. 1.00

01:19:23.000 They're just different languages.

01:19:25.000 Literally, bundles of sticks wrapped together.

01:19:28.000 They put a blade on it.

01:19:29.000 And the argument was.

01:19:31.000 We did this with the Simpsons joke where Martin, was it Martin?

01:19:34.000 He was like, alone we are like the weak twig, but together we form the mighty faggot. 1.00

01:19:40.000 And it puts the sticks together.

01:19:42.000 And so that's literally what fascists meant.

01:19:44.000 The communists argued the exact same thing.

01:19:46.000 The fingers thing they would say.

01:19:48.000 A finger alone is weak.

01:19:49.000 The fingers together make a fist.

01:19:51.000 So that's why you're supposed to show your fist facing forward to show all the fingers together.

01:19:56.000 Ape strong together.

01:19:57.000 Indeed.

01:19:58.000 So what you end up with is economic instability in Europe.

01:20:04.000 And then you get authoritarian traditionalists, fascists and Nazis.

01:20:08.000 they're distinct from each other but similar and the communists which are internationalist uh uh progressives that want to erase the the difference you know people like you're a fascist you're a communist They're both authoritarian governmental structures where an authority tells you what you can or cannot do.

01:20:25.000 You have no freedom.

01:20:26.000 What's the distinct differences?

01:20:27.000 So when it comes to the Nazis and the fascists, functionally, economically, I'd argue we're splitting hairs.

01:20:36.000 They're both authoritarian, but the communists want to erase your history and they believe everyone's a blank slate who should be wearing a great jumpsuit.

01:20:45.000 The Nazis are my nation and my people are the best and we should preserve our history and traditions.

01:20:50.000 What makes my grandmother call Trump a fascist?

01:20:52.000 That makes me so angry.

01:20:55.000 Derangement syndrome.

01:20:56.000 ignorance like if if you watch your grandma well she's jewish so you're allowed to offend her And you are too? 0.98

01:21:04.000 I noticed the cross on your hand.

01:21:05.000 Well, my mother's Christian.

01:21:05.000 It was a little bit...

01:21:07.000 My father's side was not like practicing Jew, but Hungaria, Austria-Hungary.

01:21:07.000 My...

01:21:13.000 Like we had people that got killed, so I rip it.

01:21:16.000 The saying we have is, I wish Trump was 10% of the fascist they claimed he was.

01:21:21.000 Maybe he would actually send in the police to stop all the rioting.

01:21:25.000 Yeah, like it makes me so angry.

01:21:26.000 I literally want to punch her on the head.

01:21:28.000 Your grandmother.

01:21:29.000 I love her with all my heart.

01:21:30.000 I'm your grandma.

01:21:30.000 I love her with all my heart, but she's like, what?

01:21:32.000 Trump's a fascist.

01:21:33.000 I don't know.

01:21:34.000 Part of me thinks your grandma would kick your ass.

01:21:36.000 No, no, no.

01:21:37.000 She'd take off the slipper and she'd be hit.

01:21:39.000 You self couldn't handle me anymore.

01:21:41.000 But yeah, it makes me so angry.

01:21:43.000 But she really does have TTDS, bro, and it's sick.

01:21:46.000 It's crazy.

01:21:47.000 It's like nowadays fascism is just a it's a catch all word for someone that's authoritarian or they believe is authoritarian.

01:21:53.000 They don't understand what, they don't understand any of the tenets of fascism.

01:21:57.000 They don't understand that there's a difference between Nazis and fascists, even though Nazis are fascists.

01:22:02.000 Not all fascists are Nazis.

01:22:04.000 Any of the nuance is all gone.

01:22:05.000 It's just bad person that I don't like, you know, that is pro-conservatives.

01:22:10.000 Fascism is the melding of the private and the public sector into one.

01:22:15.000 Like a company, like a company town.

01:22:17.000 One of the principal arguments was it's the lucrative merger of corporation and state.

01:22:21.000 And one of the reasons people conflate the Italian fascists with the German Nazis was that while you'll hear a lot of people say that the Nazis were socialists, it's the National Socialist Party, the left will argue they weren't actually socialists because it wasn't a command economy the way they want communists to be.

01:22:35.000 But the structure of the German economy when the Nazis took over was, I would describe it the way our economy functioned from 2018 until like 2022, which is if you don't adhere to the cultural mandates, we will end your company. 0.75

01:22:51.000 So that's why you end up with people bending the knee.

01:22:53.000 Everybody's scared to speak up.

01:22:55.000 They fired an executive from Netflix for explaining racial slurs.

01:22:59.000 So you had this, the culture was, but aren't you against racism?

01:23:05.000 During Nazi Germany was, you're not going to produce steel for the war effort?

01:23:10.000 What are you doing?

01:23:11.000 And you'd be canceled.

01:23:12.000 So the difference with the communists, they would be like, here's your book.

01:23:15.000 Here's what you're entitled to.

01:23:17.000 And then it's like, the state's doing it.

01:23:20.000 The fascists were like, why won't you do what we demand of you?

01:23:24.000 And then you'd have all these social pressures, which I think is to a degree scarier in some ways.

01:23:28.000 So the cancellation thing is more fascism.

01:23:31.000 Nazis.

01:23:32.000 Communism is more kick your door in and kind of kill you if you don't do it.

01:23:35.000 Like the fascists and the Nazis are very, very similar in the general description, the fascists being the merger of corporation and state, where the state would basically go to the corporation and be like, you're going to do what we want you to do.

01:23:46.000 The Nazis basically did the same thing. 0.88

01:23:49.000 The argument, however, was that it was cultural enforcement.

01:23:52.000 You don't want to be.

01:23:53.000 There's that famous picture where everyone's doing the Nazi salute and the one guy's like this. 0.69

01:23:57.000 And it was like, you don't want to be that guy.

01:23:59.000 You are going to march with everybody in lockstep or else you will not work in this place.

01:24:04.000 So it was more de facto.

01:24:06.000 And that's pretty worrying.

01:24:07.000 The thing about the communists is that everyone was just scared and would do right.

01:24:13.000 So there's similarities.

01:24:14.000 The principal differences I see was in both systems, the authoritarian state is going to make you do what they want you to do.

01:24:20.000 You're only allowed to buy what they let you buy.

01:24:22.000 There's limited degrees of freedom in certain areas.

01:24:26.000 But the communists' argument is your history is bad, should be destroyed.

01:24:30.000 And the fascist of the Nazis are like, our history is good and should be preserved.

01:24:33.000 Does North Korea entice you?

01:24:34.000 It makes me, I am so interested in what goes on there and like how my great-grandfather is from where is now North Korea.

01:24:42.000 What do they have that they're making money?

01:24:44.000 Like what are they exporting that finances are still going into that country?

01:24:48.000 How have they not just ran out of they're subsidized by China?

01:24:52.000 And they are starving.

01:24:53.000 Yeah.

01:24:53.000 Right.

01:24:55.000 Their people are starving.

01:24:56.000 Their economy is stagnant.

01:24:58.000 They like they don't they have that skyscraper in Pyongyang that never finished because they don't have the what goes on there?

01:25:05.000 Is there any jobs?

01:25:06.000 Is there like what?

01:25:07.000 Yeah, I think you'd be surprised that, you know, one of the challenges we have in North Korea is they potempkin village everything. 1.00

01:25:14.000 The argument the North Koreans make is that it's not that they're tricking us. 0.98

01:25:18.000 It's that when a guest comes over, you dress in your finest and you present your best meal.

01:25:22.000 You don't have him show up at the house a mess.

01:25:24.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:25:25.000 However, that means that for the most part, when we go now, we can't actually see how people are living.

01:25:28.000 But largely farmers living farm lives.

01:25:31.000 And the challenge is there was one story I was told where a cow died and you're not allowed to take the meat.

01:25:38.000 The meat has to be taken by the state and distributed evenly.

01:25:40.000 So if you have an animal on your property and you're a farmer and it dies, you can't have the whole thing.

01:25:44.000 And it'll just spoil.

01:25:46.000 And so what happens is everyone joins the military.

01:25:49.000 So there will be a young man from the area who will just come over and then he'll be like, uh-oh, it's tainted.

01:25:55.000 I have no choice.

01:25:57.000 And then the people come and take it and eat it.

01:25:59.000 And then he reports that it was diseased meat and they couldn't take it.

01:26:03.000 So they lie.

01:26:04.000 So you'll breed a lot of corruption because people are starving and they don't like it.

01:26:07.000 His life entire, like, it makes me so baffled of like how.

01:26:12.000 Part of it sounds awesome.

01:26:13.000 It really, he's a god and he believes he's not.

01:26:15.000 I don't think he.

01:26:16.000 Are you saying he's not?

01:26:17.000 How do you know he's not?

01:26:18.000 Yeah, he doesn't poop according to Seth Rogen.

01:26:20.000 He went to school in Sweden.

01:26:22.000 Here's what I would say about North Korea. 0.73

01:26:23.000 You got to admit, as bad as it is, some of it, like the cultural cohesion may be a little too extreme, but I'll take a little bit of that.

01:26:32.000 He likes Dennis Rodman.

01:26:33.000 He likes Dennis Roddy.

01:26:34.000 That's true.

01:26:35.000 And it's the only place on the planet that's still like that, right?

01:26:37.000 You know, they're...

01:26:38.000 Were they like Dennis Rodman?

01:26:39.000 Yeah.

01:26:40.000 Yeah, here's, here's, I'll tell you this.

01:26:41.000 You'll find a lot of these progressives in the United States love North Korea.

01:26:46.000 And the reason why is when we, you ever see that map of North and South Korea?

01:26:49.000 Yeah.

01:26:50.000 Where the lights are all off?

01:26:51.000 Oh, yes, yes, where there's no electricity and yes.

01:26:54.000 Nighttime North.

01:26:55.000 South Korea is thriving, right?

01:26:57.000 I mean, they got K-pop.

01:26:59.000 Sure.

01:27:00.000 I think that's taking the world.

01:27:02.000 I'm going to pull up this image for you guys.

01:27:03.000 Cool haircuts.

01:27:04.000 Check this out.

01:27:05.000 People go, how's communism doing?

01:27:08.000 And then here's South Korea and here's North Korea.

01:27:09.000 But you know what?

01:27:10.000 What is that?

01:27:11.000 How is that possible?

01:27:12.000 But here's the thing.

01:27:14.000 When communists look at this, they say, I wish.

01:27:19.000 Because do you know what that argument is?

01:27:21.000 Nature.

01:27:22.000 Return to nature.

01:27:23.000 Return to nature.

01:27:25.000 Exactly.

01:27:26.000 The communist view is like.

01:27:28.000 When we all look at this and say, wow, look how amazing China and South Korea is.

01:27:33.000 The communists to go, wow, look how amazing North Korea is. 0.91

01:27:35.000 You're not alienated.

01:27:36.000 They have real nature.

01:27:38.000 They have real wilds.

01:27:40.000 There's not light pollution and noise pollution and smog everywhere.

01:27:44.000 And they're closer to nature.

01:27:46.000 Many of these communists, that's why you see the climate change stuff.

01:27:49.000 They're like, y'all should be living in the woods like monkeys.

01:27:52.000 Now tell me this.

01:27:53.000 How is South Korea not able to go take over North Korea?

01:27:56.000 Why is China?

01:27:57.000 But why does China want that? 0.88

01:28:00.000 There's a lot of arguments.

01:28:01.000 China wants a buffer against U.S. colonial force.

01:28:04.000 Which is South Korea?

01:28:06.000 So basically, what happens with the Korean War is China was with the North and the U.S. with the South, and they went back and forth and then formed this line, the DMZ.

01:28:13.000 And China's attitude is like, we do not want the United States on our doorstep. 0.81

01:28:16.000 Even close to us.

01:28:17.000 Yeah, because they're going to be, I mean, it's like having Cuba, you know. 1.00

01:28:20.000 Exactly.

01:28:21.000 And for the United States, we want to stop the spread of communism.

01:28:25.000 Which, you know, it really is interesting.

01:28:26.000 And I know a lot agrees with this.

01:28:28.000 When I grew up hearing about the Vietnam War and all this stuff, it's painted in modern history as like this terrible unjust thing that never should have happened.

01:28:36.000 And while I do largely agree it was a mismanaged, botched thing, we used a false flag to enter it.

01:28:41.000 I then go back and think, but isn't it good to stop the spread of communism if the United States was facing a imagine what would have happened if the U.S. did not win the Cold War?

01:28:51.000 We'd be surrounded on all fronts by a unipolar communist Soviet force of people that are half-starved and they're trying to steal our stuff like a zombified planet. 0.97

01:29:01.000 Think it would have gotten that far?

01:29:01.000 That's terrifying.

01:29:03.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:29:04.000 And but fortunately, the U.S., well, to be honest, maybe not because communism struggles.

01:29:12.000 You know what I mean?

01:29:13.000 Full circle, Tim is now sounding like a neocon because he's starting to defend the Korean War.

01:29:18.000 And even though it was a very just cause to fight against the expansion of communism, you know.

01:29:24.000 Yeah, but my point is that I, of course, think which I do support too.

01:29:28.000 I think my point is that Vietnam was wrong. 0.96

01:29:31.000 It was a failure of an operation.

01:29:33.000 Well, it was wrong or a failure.

01:29:34.000 And we were fighting communism.

01:29:36.000 The false flag, the Gulf of Tonkin incident to get us involved in Vietnam is evil.

01:29:40.000 Like, if the American people say we are not interested in this fight, you can't force them to do it.

01:29:44.000 That is wrong.

01:29:45.000 Sending by draft young men to go fight in a war they didn't understand under false pretexts is wrong.

01:29:52.000 And it was a failed operation, flubbed miserably by terrible military leaders.

01:29:57.000 So I think we get to benefit from the hindsight.

01:29:59.000 If shit hit the wall in Korea and North Korea just managed to completely take over, then all of that would also be true for Korea. 0.99

01:30:06.000 So it's hard to like, you know, you're kind of judging with Korea.

01:30:10.000 I don't believe we staked a false flag to justify our occupation invasion.

01:30:14.000 No, it was because the North reinvaded.

01:30:17.000 But even then, some people would say it would be unjust to use a draft to defend a foreign nation when we weren't being attacked ourselves in Korea.

01:30:25.000 But I think still that the Korean war was justified. 1.00

01:30:27.000 If we had completely lost and South Korea never had been a thing, I think people would be saying the same thing about South Korea. 0.59

01:30:32.000 Well, you know, fair point hindsight is 2020.

01:30:34.000 I don't think, I think Vietnam certainly has its problems today, but things have cooled off quite a bit.

01:30:40.000 I certainly think communism with the Vietnam War. 0.84

01:30:42.000 That's the attempt.

01:30:43.000 That's what it was.

01:30:44.000 Yeah.

01:30:45.000 Yeah.

01:30:46.000 Stop working.

01:30:47.000 Well, not only so.

01:30:48.000 Well, I mean, to be honest, communism still exists in some form, but what China is is some kind of like I don't think it's fair to call China communism.

01:30:57.000 It's there's a third way.

01:30:59.000 The third way.

01:31:00.000 Yeah, it's like fascist.

01:31:02.000 Oh, they definitely think of themselves as the idea is that the Chinese Communist Party said we need to allow certain forms of economics, but we need to maintain absolute authority.

01:31:02.000 Right.

01:31:12.000 So they'll let people file to open a business and try it out.

01:31:16.000 But if you get to a certain size, the Chinese Communist Party gets an office in your building to make sure you're operating under their purview.

01:31:21.000 Well, there's no free speech laws.

01:31:22.000 There's no property rights.

01:31:24.000 There's no freedom of religion. 0.95

01:31:26.000 In my eyes, no freedom of religion.

01:31:27.000 No freedom of religion. 0.93

01:31:28.000 And in my eyes, that is scribes, that's communism.

01:31:31.000 And they're actually abusing Muslims with genocide in Xinjiang in the West because they want to assimilate all of the Chinese. 0.98

01:31:38.000 The issue that I think many people on the right in this country have with China is the function of their ideology.

01:31:45.000 Let me clarify that.

01:31:46.000 The ideology they have, not the function of their governance.

01:31:49.000 Meaning, if you had a United States that operated similarly under a Christian nationalist structure, many Americans on the right would completely agree with it.

01:31:58.000 If the argument was run your business, do what you want.

01:32:01.000 When you get to a certain size, you're going to have an ideological minder, but it's to the betterment of the Christian ideals.

01:32:09.000 Many people on the right would be like, yeah, I'm okay with it.

01:32:11.000 Yeah, and that sounds exactly like China, but the point is, if you replace the ideology of China with Christianity, a lot of Christians would be in favor of it.

01:32:20.000 I think I would as a Christian.

01:32:22.000 Honestly, I would.

01:32:25.000 What say you, sir?

01:32:28.000 How do you mean that?

01:32:29.000 So like, let's say you had a country and the government was Christian. 0.62

01:32:36.000 They allowed people to live and work.

01:32:38.000 You can open a business, but everything is going to be under Christian doctrine administered by the state, a Christian state.

01:32:45.000 And they did things like Muslims were heavily restricted and not allowed.

01:32:50.000 Things like that.

01:32:51.000 Yeah, I agree with that.

01:32:52.000 Right.

01:32:53.000 My point was China's doing a lot of things that, again, I'll be specific.

01:32:57.000 Like with Muslims being what's the difference? 1.00

01:33:01.000 them as proxy forces from the west right i'm not for this but i'm saying like china does yeah Yeah.

01:33:07.000 So Islam, the what's the weird sect? 1.00

01:33:12.000 The Falun Gong.

01:33:12.000 Falun Gong, the project, the Tibet project with the Dalai Lama.

01:33:17.000 That's all CIA stuff.

01:33:18.000 That's declassified too, by the way.

01:33:20.000 Wait, you don't actually believe that?

01:33:21.000 You think that's just what the CCP calls them?

01:33:24.000 Or do you think it's legitimately?

01:33:26.000 No, I think those are all Western projects.

01:33:28.000 So anything that is threatening to the CCP is what, therefore, a CIA-backed project?

01:33:33.000 These are all just separatists who are going to want to be assimilated.

01:33:37.000 Well, in the case of the Fallen Gong, they may not be directly run by the CIA, but they would be supported by the West as something aggressive. 0.81

01:33:45.000 In the case of Free Tibet, that actually was a CIA project, and the Dalai Lama has worked with the CIA.

01:33:50.000 Let me put it like this.

01:33:51.000 So they've got these, they've got the Uyghur Muslim camps, right?

01:33:54.000 Yeah.

01:33:55.000 And they say, well, no, these are just prisoners.

01:33:58.000 And the West argues they're people being oppressed.

01:34:01.000 The stories that we get are horrifying.

01:34:04.000 If you were, my point is, if the ideology of China was purely Christian and it was like a Christian nationalist country and the perspective of the people was we have arrested Muslim criminals. 0.97

01:34:19.000 Like, again, I'm clarifying from what the West is saying about what they're doing versus what they say they're doing.

01:34:24.000 My point is, if in the United States we had a Christian nationalist government and many extremist Muslims were arrested and put into prisons, people on the right would be like, yes, absolutely. 0.77

01:34:34.000 Sure.

01:34:34.000 Sure, there are other things in the government that I think are what some Christians would argue is antithetical to their values.

01:34:41.000 The one-child policy for a while, at the very least. 0.78

01:34:44.000 Yeah, I think so.

01:34:46.000 You're just about religious dissidents. 0.52

01:34:48.000 Is that what you're saying?

01:34:49.000 Just putting them in?

01:34:50.000 No, no, I mean like Muslims specifically.

01:34:52.000 I believe there are many Christians that would have no problem if the government said, look, this is a criminal who committed a crime.

01:35:00.000 We are putting them in prison.

01:35:01.000 We call them terrorists as well.

01:35:02.000 Yeah.

01:35:03.000 So we look at what they're doing as a Chinese Communist Party with these camps with Muslims, and we're like, that's horrifying and wrong. 0.96

01:35:03.000 That's my point. 0.96

01:35:09.000 If it was our government, they would be justifying it in a way that people would be like, well, I trust my government.

01:35:15.000 This is the same reason they have a state-controlled Catholic church because they don't want the normal. 0.71

01:35:20.000 Yeah, they have a state-run Catholic church.

01:35:22.000 So they don't want the normal Catholic church because they believe that it would be a tool for espionage.

01:35:26.000 And aren't they forced to actually believe certain like Confucius or Buddhists?

01:35:31.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:35:32.000 Right, right.

01:35:33.000 I want to follow up on something you said, Jay.

01:35:35.000 It's not that I think I'm trying to understand.

01:35:38.000 You legitimately think that all Tibetans that believe in separatism are all okay.

01:35:43.000 All right.

01:35:43.000 It's just because I believe.

01:35:44.000 And he's right.

01:35:45.000 No, I'm saying the Free Tibet movement, all the way back in the 1970s, LA Times first reported on this, that it was supported by CIA money.

01:35:52.000 And then it was just recently declassified that the CIA was involved in the Free Tibet Project.

01:35:57.000 Sure.

01:35:57.000 Just as a buffer against the CCP.

01:36:00.000 And this is the U.S. soft power where USAID, largely what they were doing, was providing aid to NGOs, but it was for the goal of destabilizing.

01:36:10.000 I think we have common interests.

01:36:11.000 I'm not pro-CCP.

01:36:12.000 I think we have common interests with these groups.

01:36:14.000 I don't think that inherently makes them CIA, though.

01:36:17.000 And I feel like some people on the left would just use that blanket term.

01:36:21.000 Well, anybody who is who has similar end goals as us.

01:36:25.000 So again, we might want to see parts of Tibet break off because we don't believe that's a legitimate part.

01:36:29.000 Or we would like to see Taiwan remain independent.

01:36:32.000 Some people would imply that they are CIA just because they have similar interests.

01:36:36.000 No, in the case of the Dalai Lama, this is declassified, but also this was a relationship going all the way back to the Nazis, right?

01:36:42.000 He was actually, when it looked like the Nazis might win, there were those famous meetings with the Dalai Lama and the SS because they were trying to curry favor with him, establish a relationship because the Nazis also were concerned with that geostrategic location.

01:36:57.000 Like you're talking about earlier with Cuba, Cuba relationship to the United States, Taiwan with China.

01:37:02.000 Well, Tibet as well, right?

01:37:04.000 Because it's kind of like Ukraine.

01:37:05.000 If you can break Ukraine off, that's a, which Hitler wanted to do that too. 0.97

01:37:09.000 He wanted Ukraine. 0.88

01:37:10.000 That's a buffer against Russia. 0.92

01:37:12.000 So a lot of it's just geostrategy.

01:37:14.000 I'm not pro-CCP.

01:37:15.000 I'm just saying that I think that's the geopolitics.

01:37:19.000 Before we go to the chat, let me ask you: would you be in favor of a U.S. government that its basis for its laws was Christianity?

01:37:29.000 You would have to have the majority of the population accepting something like Orthodox Christianity before anything like that would even be sensible. 0.99

01:37:38.000 The last time there was something like this was like 1800s Russia, where you had a symphony, a relationship of the Byzantine two-headed eagle is the model.

01:37:38.000 Sure, sure, sure.

01:37:47.000 So you have church and state.

01:37:48.000 They worked in symphony.

01:37:50.000 But you don't try to.

01:37:51.000 I just more so mean, like, is it a desirable outcome that the people of the United States all agree an Orthodox Christian?

01:37:57.000 Ultimately, but I mean, if that happened, I'd be like 200 years away.

01:37:59.000 Sure, sure, sure.

01:38:00.000 I'm just curious on if the end result was you had government that would go in, they'd say prayer, they would have discussions with religious leaders on does it make sense to implement a certain law?

01:38:12.000 There would be a close relationship.

01:38:13.000 There'd be two spheres, but there'd be a close relationship.

01:38:16.000 But just it is desirable.

01:38:18.000 I ask this in all sincerity.

01:38:19.000 I would argue that.

01:38:20.000 I think most people would argue that their religion is the way in which their country should be.

01:38:25.000 Sure.

01:38:26.000 I think so too.

01:38:28.000 I would argue that as Tim Cast or Tim Colt.

01:38:32.000 No cult.

01:38:34.000 My argument is the function of Christianity is superior to everything else we have seen throughout history, and that the United States would benefit from actually having Christianity in its government as it did historically until we started to pull it out. 0.96

01:38:48.000 Liberals don't know history.

01:38:50.000 And, You know, so one thing that I've talked about quite a bit, you know, I grew up Catholic and ultimately just left the church and then became like an angsty teenage atheist, but then kind of realized I was wrong.

01:39:05.000 And I remember reading about Blackstone's formulation, which is it is better that 10 guilty persons escape than one innocent person suffer.

01:39:14.000 And I thought, man, what a beautiful thing, right?

01:39:17.000 And then Benjamin Franklin said it's actually better that 100 guilty persons escape than one innocent person suffer.

01:39:21.000 And I said, yeah, but why?

01:39:23.000 I mean, like, if you've got a rapist running around and you're like, we're going to have 10 rapists running around just so that one, don't aren't there sacrifices.

01:39:32.000 So I decided to read into it and like, why did Blackstone say this?

01:39:35.000 The Bible.

01:39:36.000 It's rooted in the story of Sodom and Gomorrah.

01:39:38.000 If there's but one righteous man, I will not destroy this city.

01:39:41.000 And the legal framework by which the U.S. operates for its innocent until proven guilty is quite literally from the Bible.

01:39:50.000 That's true.

01:39:51.000 And I believe it is logically and mathematically correct.

01:39:56.000 And this is my argument about my worldview on private rights: that we can actually mathematically map out why Christianity is correct. 0.97

01:40:06.000 And that is the founding fathers argued: if you take the religion out of it, you can go very simple and say, this is what God wills of us.

01:40:15.000 It is better that, you know, if there's but one righteous man, we do not condemn, right?

01:40:19.000 However, how does that translate to a functioning society?

01:40:22.000 The founding fathers said, if you tell a man, regardless of his innocence, we will punish you just in case, you have created an incentive for a man to be derelict.

01:40:33.000 You will tell the person, why bother being righteous and moral if we're going to harm you no matter what you do.

01:40:40.000 In fact, the incentive then is if I'm going to be imprisoned unjustly, I might as well try and get what I can while I'm at it.

01:40:46.000 So they ultimately logically came together and said, then in fact, it quite does make sense that we should tell the people, even if a guilty person escapes, we are going to make sure the innocent, the burden will be on the government.

01:41:01.000 And I believe that is the righteous thing and the just thing.

01:41:04.000 It also completely adheres to the Bible and the perspective on, you know, it was Sodom and Gomorrah, but it also makes complete sense when we watch how humans are.

01:41:16.000 And when you take a look at what the left is doing, releasing criminals intentionally, it is, I believe, anarcho-tyranny.

01:41:25.000 They want to create violence and instability.

01:41:26.000 But it also, I believe, is an attempt.

01:41:29.000 I believe largely what the left is doing is trying to destroy Christianity.

01:41:32.000 It is what these communists have argued for quite a bit.

01:41:35.000 And I think a lot of what they do, and maybe not as directly, but it's a way to say, see, your ethos doesn't work.

01:41:42.000 We let these guilty people escape and crime has been miserable and everyone's upset.

01:41:46.000 Maybe we shouldn't adhere to this.

01:41:48.000 And you'll end up with an Otto von Bismarck where he said, it is better that 10 innocent people suffer than one guilty person escape.

01:41:56.000 And what do you get with that?

01:41:57.000 You get oppression, authoritarianism, command economies that ultimately collapse and everyone's pissed off.

01:42:02.000 In the French Revolution, they let the prisoners out to engage and to be the front, the front, you know, the tip of the spear for the revolution.

01:42:11.000 The revolutionaries were like antifa, right?

01:42:13.000 The revolutionary exactly.

01:42:16.000 We're going to go to your chats and Rumble Rant.

01:42:17.000 So smash the like button, share the show with every person you've ever met.

01:42:20.000 Go through your phone book.

01:42:21.000 I bet if you open your phone book right now, there's like 30 phone numbers.

01:42:25.000 You can't even remember who they are.

01:42:26.000 Just text them like, hey, here's the link to Tim Castillo.

01:42:30.000 I'm kidding, man.

01:42:30.000 That's a bad idea, but who knows?

01:42:33.000 Don't text your.

01:42:34.000 You guys remember number neighbors?

01:42:36.000 Yes.

01:42:37.000 People would text a phone number, one number up or down from their phone number.

01:42:41.000 So if like the last four of your number was like 9331, they would text 9330 and they'd be like, I'm your number neighbor.

01:42:48.000 Who are you?

01:42:52.000 Sounds like some boomer shit right here.

01:42:53.000 Uh-huh.

01:42:54.000 Uh-huh.

01:42:54.000 Oh, look, this guy's putting it.

01:42:56.000 Anyway, anyway, we're going to have that uncensored portion of the show over at rumble.com slash Timcast IRL, where we have a special treat for you that certainly can only be played on the uncensored show, and you will laugh.

01:43:06.000 But you got to go to rumble.com slash Timcast IRL at 10 p.m. to watch it.

01:43:09.000 In the meantime, we're going to see what y'all have to say.

01:43:13.000 All right, Jacob Hawley says, from what I understand until the investigation is over, is that they were potentially drug traffickers trying to smuggle drugs in Caribbean.

01:43:21.000 That is still unverified, but that's from the Cuban embassy.

01:43:24.000 Agreed.

01:43:25.000 And maybe that is the case.

01:43:26.000 Maybe that is.

01:43:26.000 Cubans are so poor.

01:43:28.000 I don't know how it would be so lucrative to smuggle drugs into Cuba, but St. Miles says it's Gulf of America, a lot.

01:43:36.000 Oops.

01:43:37.000 It is.

01:43:37.000 It actually is.

01:43:38.000 That's a genuine mistake.

01:43:38.000 Yes.

01:43:39.000 It's funny that Trump just declared it, right?

01:43:42.000 That's what it is, right?

01:43:42.000 Gulf of America.

01:43:43.000 Like Trump was like, that's it from now on.

01:43:45.000 And then they're like, okay.

01:43:45.000 Yeah.

01:43:46.000 And everybody had a voice.

01:43:47.000 He looked really good.

01:43:48.000 Oh, I don't know.

01:43:48.000 You do really good as voice.

01:43:51.000 I could probably do it better if I try.

01:43:53.000 We're just moving off.

01:43:54.000 All right, what do we got this?

01:43:55.000 Alex says, hello, Tim and Crew, continuing with the tradition.

01:43:58.000 I'm in the hospital with my beautiful wife, and we are welcoming our third and fourth children, Ellen and Twin, into the world.

01:44:06.000 Stay salty, Patriots.

01:44:08.000 All right.

01:44:08.000 Awesome to hear.

01:44:09.000 Congratulations.

01:44:09.000 Like Timcast fans are the only one that queens.

01:44:13.000 Omega Rosetsu says, classical liberalism is not left.

01:44:16.000 Also, Tim, economics are not attached to the XY axis.

01:44:19.000 There is a third axis that is ignored.

01:44:21.000 X equals morality, Y equals authority, Z equals econ.

01:44:25.000 I think we're both going to agree he's wrong.

01:44:28.000 That's fine.

01:44:30.000 There's a bunch of, so left and right is the challenge with a lot of these ideologies, how you define them in different contexts.

01:44:39.000 For a while in the 2000s, many people defined left as lacking authority and right as more authority.

01:44:47.000 But that doesn't necessarily, because that goes more to like the French Revolution vision of it.

01:44:52.000 But it didn't make sense because then people started to define capitalistic economics as right-wing and socialist as left-wing, which created two distinct and then a third left-right acts emerged of culture where the right is traditionalist and the left is progressive.

01:45:06.000 So you actually have a bunch of different left-right paradigms that that's why we have to try and figure out what that means.

01:45:12.000 The funny thing is, actually, there's one leftist paradigm and then three different right-wing branches.

01:45:18.000 Because like, you know, I always point this out.

01:45:20.000 Dave Smith and Nick Fuentes have wildly different political ideologies, but they are both called right-wing by the media.

01:45:28.000 And I'm like, that is not a good descriptor of what these views are.

01:45:33.000 Whereas the left, you pretty much can nail it.

01:45:37.000 Someone's a liberal, they're going to believe the same thing as everybody else.

01:45:40.000 And we actually, the data bores this out.

01:45:42.000 There was a graph that we showed on the show a while ago where they had a social access and an economic access.

01:45:50.000 So it was the further down you were, the more socialist economics.

01:45:56.000 And the further left you were, the more, oh, no, no, no, I'm sorry.

01:45:58.000 The further left you are was socialist economies and the further down was progressive culturalism.

01:46:04.000 And you found the Trump voter base was spread out evenly across the top, meaning you had the dirtbag left.

01:46:09.000 They're more socialist, but they voted for Trump.

01:46:12.000 On the bottom, everything was in a tight pocket of leftist ideology for culture and economics.

01:46:17.000 So when you call the leftist a leftist, you can pretty much agree they're going to be for trans and the kids.

01:46:22.000 They're going to be communist.

01:46:23.000 They're going to be pro-war with Ukraine.

01:46:24.000 Whatever that stuff is.

01:46:27.000 All right.

01:46:28.000 What do we got here?

01:46:29.000 Let's see.

01:46:33.000 A lot of people weren't fans of the debate.

01:46:36.000 Zet says, uncertainty principle says nothing can be known with absolute certainty.

01:46:39.000 Certainty equals forbidden.

01:46:42.000 Nothing equals forbidden.

01:46:43.000 Therefore, nothing equals certain.

01:46:44.000 Give it up, y'all.

01:46:45.000 Well, is that certain?

01:46:47.000 Indeed, it's not.

01:46:48.000 Get into a debate without it.

01:46:50.000 On a Sith deals in absolutes.

01:46:52.000 Is that absolute?

01:46:53.000 Kishim says, UPS is trash.

01:46:55.000 Got updated on a cast brew cold brew as delivered, but the notes say it was damaged and discarded this morning.

01:47:00.000 Oh, that is highly unrealistic.

01:47:02.000 Unreal.

01:47:03.000 We also have big news.

01:47:05.000 New shipments of pool water are on the way.

01:47:08.000 We are introducing pool water cans.

01:47:11.000 I was going to say, can people actually get this?

01:47:13.000 Because we sold out.

01:47:14.000 It's a phenomenal idea.

01:47:16.000 And I was like, shout out to Andy.

01:47:18.000 Sells this.

01:47:18.000 And that's what I'm saying.

01:47:20.000 Where's the endorsement?

01:47:20.000 It tastes exactly like chlorine water.

01:47:22.000 No, it does.

01:47:24.000 No, it tastes like 100% Audison water.

01:47:27.000 Yeah, it's a TJ in Virginia water.

01:47:29.000 It's effectively an aquifer in Virginia.

01:47:32.000 It's basically the same water that we get, we drink out here.

01:47:35.000 And it's pure, filtered, delicious with all the good stuff in it.

01:47:39.000 And we made it as a gag because I was beefing with Liquid Death over the plastic contents of their cans, for which Liquid Death has plastic in their cans.

01:47:46.000 I don't like Liquid Death.

01:47:47.000 It's plastic in their cans.

01:47:49.000 And so they say, death, the plastic, but I'm like, hey, yo, there's plastic in your cans.

01:47:53.000 And the argument was, yeah, well, there's more plastic in a bottle because the cap has plastic in it.

01:47:57.000 I'm like, yeah, that's fine.

01:47:58.000 Just say that.

01:48:00.000 And then we got this whole beef.

01:48:01.000 So then I was like, why don't we launch our own water company?

01:48:03.000 And then Andy goes, pool water.

01:48:07.000 And we were like, that's great.

01:48:07.000 And we all laughed.

01:48:08.000 That's a great idea.

01:48:09.000 And so we did it.

01:48:11.000 And we've got pool water is going to be available soon at cashbrew.com.

01:48:15.000 We're going to do cans as well.

01:48:17.000 And there's actually one simple reason we do it.

01:48:19.000 We actually buy a bunch of water bottles for guests.

01:48:23.000 And so we were like, why the hell are we giving them?

01:48:26.000 We'll just do our own.

01:48:28.000 The left made fun of Trump for having Trump water.

01:48:30.000 This is what the left never understood.

01:48:32.000 It's so annoying.

01:48:32.000 They'd be like, Donald Trump's Trump steaks failed and Trump magazine failed and Trump water failed.

01:48:37.000 And then you go to a resort and what do they have?

01:48:39.000 Trump steaks, Trump Water and Trump Magazine.

01:48:41.000 And I'm like, these people don't get it.

01:48:44.000 Trump-branded products are internally manufactured products for his facilities.

01:48:49.000 Like McDonald's makes their own mayonnaise.

01:48:50.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:48:51.000 Trump, so Trump has resorts.

01:48:54.000 He doesn't need you to buy them.

01:48:56.000 So here's the thing.

01:48:57.000 Trump probably went, how much does it cost us to get a steak to serve it one of our, you know, to a customer?

01:49:03.000 And they're like, ah, it's going to cost you $10.

01:49:05.000 Okay.

01:49:06.000 And why?

01:49:07.000 And they're like, well, we order it from Steak Co.

01:49:10.000 He was like, oh, okay.

01:49:11.000 What if we make it ourselves?

01:49:12.000 Seven bucks.

01:49:13.000 So we can save $3 a steak if we do it ourselves.

01:49:15.000 Do it ourselves.

01:49:16.000 And so that's why he has Trump Water.

01:49:17.000 That's why he's got Trump Magazine and all that stuff.

01:49:19.000 I was when Trump was running, I worked for Fusion, this leftist rag, and they were talking about how Trump water was gone.

01:49:28.000 And then I go to Trump Dora, which is literally down the street from Fusion's office, and there's bottles of Trump water.

01:49:33.000 And right next to it is Trump magazine.

01:49:35.000 And I was like, I'm so confused.

01:49:37.000 Why are they lying?

01:49:38.000 It's the stupidest thing ever.

01:49:40.000 It's what they do.

01:49:41.000 Because they don't like Donald Trump.

01:49:42.000 That's it.

01:49:44.000 All right.

01:49:45.000 Shador says, Tim, you got to have a tiki history on culture war to explain the proper differences of socialism, communism, capitalism, fascism.

01:49:53.000 Sure, but I would also say everybody argues even academics.

01:49:58.000 I think I've read like four different academic papers on the definition of fascism, for which one of the most common is the lucrative merger of corporation and state.

01:50:06.000 Then you'll get others that argue, well, you know, technically, you'll get some people saying the Nazis were socialist, as self-described.

01:50:12.000 And then you'll get other academics being like, well, actually.

01:50:15.000 And then you've got people saying the USSR, no, they weren't real communism.

01:50:18.000 And the CCP, they call themselves communists, are communists in every way, but occasionally have some free market aspects.

01:50:24.000 So no, they're not really communist either.

01:50:26.000 It is possible to have socialism that's not Marxist socialism.

01:50:29.000 I mean, socialism kind of started in the French Revolution.

01:50:32.000 Like Marx, Marxism and Marxist-Leninism is like what people think of as socialism, but it is possible to have socialism.

01:50:39.000 It's not.

01:50:40.000 To me, it's a distinction without a difference.

01:50:43.000 Okay.

01:50:44.000 Well, they are different.

01:50:46.000 I think socialism is ultimately trying to lead to communism.

01:50:49.000 So, I mean, that's well, that's the communists said the ultimate goal of socialism is communism.

01:50:54.000 But I would say that if you're trying to make a distinction between the two, a simple way is that socialism defines the economic system and communism is the political infrastructure of it.

01:51:07.000 So I do agree it's splitting hairs.

01:51:11.000 I understand Leninism wanted to use vanguardism and they had different ways that they hoped to achieve communism.

01:51:17.000 And then Maoism had a little bit differently.

01:51:20.000 And then North Korea has their own strain of leftism, Marxism, and it's all the same.

01:51:24.000 BS to me.

01:51:25.000 Here's how I can explain communism very easily to people, right?

01:51:27.000 Because they're always like, you know, how come we've never seen a real communist country?

01:51:30.000 It's like, we have because there is reality and there is fiction.

01:51:38.000 Fiction is the idea that you can strip possessions from everybody and then they'll all hold hands and sing songs under the sun.

01:51:44.000 Reality is you do this and then someone has to enforce it because everyone's pissed off and killing each other.

01:51:52.000 If Timtown was a company town, would we be allowed to leave or would we?

01:51:57.000 You would be allowed to leave.

01:51:59.000 In fact, you'd be encouraged.

01:52:00.000 Like, it's the opposite.

01:52:02.000 It's like, guys, I'm going to do whatever I can to make you get out.

01:52:04.000 You want everyone out or just?

01:52:06.000 Well, no, I want only the people who really want to be here to be here.

01:52:08.000 Okay.

01:52:09.000 And so it should actually be kind of annoying to be here, but you're going to fight really hard to make it work.

01:52:13.000 And that's how you know it's.

01:52:14.000 The real question is, are you going to let everybody in?

01:52:17.000 There are borders to Timtown.

01:52:18.000 There are going to be borders.

01:52:19.000 Okay.

01:52:20.000 Yes.

01:52:22.000 Sounds like how I want America to be.

01:52:25.000 But my plan is, the borders aren't so much you can't come in.

01:52:29.000 It's it when you come in, 20 bucks.

01:52:32.000 Leaving's free.

01:52:33.000 That sounds pretty mafia to me.

01:52:35.000 This is how New York does it.

01:52:36.000 This is how San Francisco does it. 0.53

01:52:38.000 When you try to enter New York to the tunnels, you got to pay, was it 15 bucks these days?

01:52:42.000 17.

01:52:43.000 17.

01:52:44.000 And when you leave, it's free.

01:52:45.000 And you know why they do that?

01:52:46.000 No, not anymore.

01:52:48.000 What?

01:52:48.000 It's free now?

01:52:49.000 They only charge you one way.

01:52:50.000 Maybe through Jersey.

01:52:51.000 Maybe through Jersey.

01:52:52.000 But in New York, like from Brooklyn to Staten Island, they split the toll.

01:52:56.000 Well, yeah, that's because it's still New York.

01:52:58.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:52:59.000 If you're leaving.

01:53:00.000 Yes, yes, into Jersey.

01:53:01.000 I mean, coming into New York, you only pay when you're in the business.

01:53:03.000 The reason they do it is it creates net poverty outflow, meaning it's harder for poor people to enter the city and easy for them to leave.

01:53:10.000 Now, but what about Jersey, though?

01:53:12.000 Jersey doesn't get any cut of that.

01:53:14.000 They probably do.

01:53:15.000 It's a poor authority.

01:53:16.000 So it's like, it's split.

01:53:17.000 But again, the idea, like San Francisco does the same thing.

01:53:20.000 When you enter San Fran, you got to pay.

01:53:22.000 But when you leave, it's freaking because the city's basically like, let's make it easy for the poor to leave.

01:53:28.000 Make it hard for them to get in.

01:53:29.000 Yeah.

01:53:30.000 It's pretty smart.

01:53:31.000 Unfortunately.

01:53:34.000 What do we got here?

01:53:34.000 All right.

01:53:35.000 Tyron says, just got VIP tickets for me, my wife, and friends to see all that remains in Charleston.

01:53:40.000 Superstokes.

01:53:41.000 Yeah.

01:53:42.000 And Amon Amarth and Death Clock.

01:53:44.000 Nice.

01:53:45.000 Ooh, Death Clock.

01:53:45.000 Then Creator.

01:53:46.000 Yeah, they're great.

01:53:48.000 It's going to be good shows, man.

01:53:49.000 That's Charlestown or Charleston?

01:53:51.000 Charleston, South Carolina.

01:53:51.000 Charleston.

01:53:54.000 At the music farm.

01:53:55.000 Jason says the glass made from a nuclear explosion is called Trinitite.

01:54:00.000 Is that it's called?

01:54:01.000 Trinitite?

01:54:02.000 Sweet.

01:54:03.000 Do they have a lot of that in Japan?

01:54:04.000 I was about to say, do we actually know this is a real thing?

01:54:07.000 Yeah, Google it.

01:54:07.000 Yes.

01:54:08.000 Yeah, but I think in glass since when they nuclear tested in Nevada or whatever, that's what they produced.

01:54:16.000 Randy says Levi Struss's original label said made by white men.

01:54:20.000 Aha, classic.

01:54:23.000 I need a vintage pair of those jeans.

01:54:25.000 And now his great-grandson is a representative from New York City who impeached the president the first time around, was the lead lawyer impeaching Dan Goldman, Representative Dan Goldman.

01:54:34.000 Yeah.

01:54:36.000 Okay.

01:54:40.000 Raymond G. Sandler Jews says, arguments based on 200 years ago is deaf nonsensical.

01:54:45.000 I'm not sure.

01:54:46.000 Sure, you want to say that about the Constitution?

01:54:49.000 Oh, I will in two seconds.

01:54:50.000 I say it all the time.

01:54:52.000 It doesn't matter.

01:54:53.000 That what we think of when the left and the right both say, like the right says the left is trampling the Constitution, the left says the right's trampling the Constitution.

01:55:01.000 What they're literally describing is a Constitution is shout out to Wait Stotz.

01:55:07.000 What constitutes the people and the right view their constituency, what constitutes the Constitutional Republicanists, and the left views what constitutes the multicultural Democrats, both are completely meaningless to what the Founding Fathers intended.

01:55:23.000 The Founding Fathers, blasphemy was illegal.

01:55:26.000 You could not go out and besmirch the good name of Jesus Christ.

01:55:29.000 Today, the argument from both sides is that it's allowed.

01:55:32.000 Burn the flag if you want.

01:55:34.000 You couldn't do that back in the day.

01:55:35.000 No, you couldn't.

01:55:36.000 Back in the day, if you burned the flag, like, here's the thing: back in the day, gun rights. 0.84

01:55:41.000 The argument was the federal government could not take your guns away, but the states can do what the states can do.

01:55:46.000 We've changed it now to, no, no, the states can't take your guns because the federal government protects that right for all.

01:55:52.000 I'm actually fine with that distinction.

01:55:54.000 You just appealed to Black's law dictionary, right?

01:55:57.000 To what?

01:55:58.000 Earlier.

01:55:59.000 So that would mean that's old, right?

01:56:01.000 So we can't not care about what was written 200 years ago.

01:56:06.000 That's what he was saying.

01:56:07.000 You're saying his argument.

01:56:08.000 Yeah.

01:56:10.000 I'm not sure the context of whether he's trying to agree or disagree that as well.

01:56:15.000 Yeah.

01:56:16.000 Like he, I'm not, that's why I was like, Raymond, I'm not entirely sure.

01:56:18.000 Are you saying that like arguing against what they had laid down is nonsensical or arguing for what they laid down?

01:56:24.000 I would argue that if we want to adhere to the Constitution, blasphemy is illegal.

01:56:29.000 Christian blasphemy would be illegal.

01:56:32.000 Do you agree with that, though?

01:56:33.000 I'm saying if no, but the founding fathers, the last blasphemy case was what, like 1830-something.

01:56:40.000 Like, which was a guy, a guy was espousing.

01:56:44.000 I can't remember exactly the details.

01:56:46.000 He was like, he was espousing something that Jesus was not the Son of God or something like that.

01:56:50.000 And then he argued that it was not insulting or demeaning to question as other religions did. 0.89

01:56:55.000 Therefore, it was not true blasphemy.

01:56:57.000 He got convicted.

01:56:58.000 So that's that's that's bro.

01:57:00.000 If in 1706, 1790, if you walked into the heart of New York and started holding up a sign saying Jesus, well, that's a little vague, but literally saying like, like insults, insulting Jesus, they would arrest you under obscenity and blasphemy law.

01:57:17.000 Now, where does that change throughout the process?

01:57:20.000 In the 1830s, I think it was, maybe like 1829, there was the final case where a guy, he was like a, what was he?

01:57:27.000 He was like a universal Unitarian or some function, some weird religion, and he was challenging Christianity. 0.51

01:57:33.000 So they arrested him.

01:57:34.000 And then arguments were made that don't we have religious freedom and freedom of speech?

01:57:38.000 He got convicted.

01:57:39.000 The Supreme Court said no, but then ultimately, like, that was the last time anyone ever went for it.

01:57:43.000 Were blasphemy laws state laws?

01:57:45.000 So I'm going to say, I think it was held under, I believe it was state.

01:57:52.000 I actually think it was federal as well.

01:57:53.000 I think this, where the Supreme Court was specifically, let me let me know.

01:57:57.000 Does the law change because the Supreme Court rules on like it's actually written or just the case?

01:58:05.000 Nope, that's not it.

01:58:06.000 That was 1976 in the UK.

01:58:09.000 No, no, no, no.

01:58:12.000 Although that one's interesting, too.

01:58:14.000 The Commonwealth v. Nealand in 1838.

01:58:18.000 This is the last case that you were talking about.

01:58:19.000 Yeah, that was the last conviction under blasphemy.

01:58:23.000 When was the last?

01:58:24.000 No, no, it says 1928.

01:58:25.000 Why are they changing it on me?

01:58:26.000 Beyond the actual law, I remember a decade ago, South Park refused to blaspheme Muhammad because they were scared of the First Bank.

01:58:33.000 Yeah, it was both legal thing.

01:58:35.000 And I love that.

01:58:36.000 What's fascinating to me is the Christian response to people blaspheming Jesus, which is to say almost none at all of the Christians who I'm around who see Jesus being blasphemed, they don't seem to care much or are just very tolerant of people doing it as opposed to it.

01:58:54.000 Let me tell you this over blaspheming.

01:58:56.000 Did you know that this is a Christian nation founded on the requirement to profess a faith in a Christian God?

01:59:01.000 I know it was a Christian nation.

01:59:03.000 And in order to run for office, you had to swear a faith in a Christian God.

01:59:08.000 And it started to change around the time of the revolution.

01:59:12.000 Maryland was one of the only states, it was like, I think Maryland, Connecticut, where you didn't have to say Protestant, but many of the states required you to be a Protestant.

01:59:20.000 Maryland, because of a high density of Catholics, said just Christian.

01:59:23.000 And because of Thomas Jefferson, largely, Virginia said, just say God.

01:59:27.000 But now today, you'll hear these liberals say, we have a separation of church and state.

01:59:31.000 We never required a belief in God.

01:59:32.000 And it's like, no, actually, all of the colonial charters required it.

01:59:35.000 That comes from Roger Williams, the Baptist, who was a strong proponent of the separation of church and religion and state.

01:59:42.000 So it goes from, like you said, there even used to be church taxes in some of the colonies.

01:59:48.000 How do you feel about the separation of church and state?

01:59:50.000 Me, honestly, I don't like it because I like my ideologies and everything like that.

01:59:57.000 The problem with it is that the mistake made by the, it's not necessarily even the founding fathers, because separation of church and state is not the constitution.

02:00:06.000 It was largely born of like the First Amendment, the right to practice religion, your own religion.

02:00:13.000 The problem is the assumption of 5 million people who are 99% Christian was our moral worldview is already absolute.

02:00:23.000 We don't need to make the government start telling Christians and Protestants because we don't need to deal with that. 0.85

02:00:29.000 What ends up happening then is the moral worldview erodes and starts incorporating degeneracy and very bad things that are detrimental to our country.

02:00:37.000 And we have this enshrined now that you cannot have your ideology in your law, which to be honest, look, there's a lot of bad laws that we got rid of, but there's a lot of really bad things we've adopted.

02:00:49.000 And I do believe that even like if you go back to the 50s, largely we were still like a 90-some-odd percent Christian nation.

02:00:55.000 People were still going to church.

02:00:57.000 And the moral worldview was still culturally enforced.

02:01:01.000 Since we've had an expansion of multiculturalism, immigration, and what we would describe as heritage Americans, I guess, like long-standing American families have stopped reproducing.

02:01:11.000 You have an erosion of your moral worldview.

02:01:14.000 So now you are getting rampant degeneracy across the country.

02:01:18.000 I have no problem with Christianity in government so long as constitutional rights are protected.

02:01:26.000 That would be, you can't give a blowjob in the streets of San Francisco. 1.00

02:01:30.000 That's not a joke.

02:01:31.000 Well, you need to have a blowjob at all. 1.00

02:01:31.000 They're doing it. 1.00

02:01:33.000 In San Francisco, they have men in the streets engaging in sex acts with children all around them.

02:01:41.000 And the police refuse to do anything about it.

02:01:43.000 And this has been going on everywhere.

02:01:45.000 And they won't enforce it because everyone's like, well, you know, they're free.

02:01:50.000 What do you bother them?

02:01:51.000 When you say Christian nation, what do you mean specifically?

02:01:54.000 Me?

02:01:54.000 Yeah.

02:01:55.000 Like the moral framework of our laws and structures are under a Judeo-Christian framework.

02:02:01.000 I agree on that.

02:02:02.000 I think there's a lot of connotation comes along with Christian nation that I am not suggesting mandated churches or that people will be forced to buy Bibles.

02:02:11.000 I'm saying that Blackstone's formulation, the foundation of like the fourth, fifth, and sixth amendments is understood and taught to our children.

02:02:20.000 They understand their heritage.

02:02:21.000 They're explained to, here's why we do it.

02:02:24.000 The founding fathers didn't simply say, you know what?

02:02:26.000 Christianity is absolute.

02:02:28.000 Therefore, we don't got to think about it.

02:02:29.000 No, they actually debated it and said, you know, I thought about it.

02:02:33.000 I don't think divine mandate describes in and of itself.

02:02:38.000 Like, there is a logic to why it actually is true.

02:02:41.000 It's not just that we have to bow down to this idea.

02:02:44.000 We can actually understand it and provide to the people: here's why it works.

02:02:50.000 And they did.

02:02:51.000 They wrote that, again, the point was: a society that tells an innocent man, regardless of your virtue, you will be punished, incentivizes a man to do whatever they can, regardless of honor, because they will be punished.

02:03:02.000 But a society that says even the guilty will get their chance tells a man of virtue, do your best, and we will protect you.

02:03:10.000 It creates an incentive for people to try and be good, trustworthy, and honorable, which, of course, a high trust society is a successful society.

02:03:17.000 So the Founding Fathers are literally basically like, Hey, you know, I know it says it, but when you think about it, it's true. 0.99

02:03:24.000 And so that's the basis by which I think if we were more informed of the roots of our ideology and laws and why they work, we would be much better off today.

02:03:32.000 And you could still have, like, we don't torture people, like, we do away with these things.

02:03:38.000 We have civil rights for people of different race.

02:03:39.000 You can have interracial marriage and all of that stuff.

02:03:41.000 These things are not restricted under a Christian worldview.

02:03:47.000 Do you think we torture people in Guantanamo Bay?

02:03:50.000 Well, I mean, waterboarding is torture.

02:03:53.000 Only people that deserve it.

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02:07:06.000 Hey, there we go.

02:07:08.000 Ladies and gentlemen, I give you the Hiles.

02:07:12.000 The Hiles?

02:07:13.000 Oh, man.

02:07:13.000 Wait, wait, hold on, hold on, hold on.

02:07:15.000 I screwed it up.

02:07:16.000 Hate to say it.

02:07:17.000 Rike and roll.

02:07:18.000 Ah!

02:07:53.000 King, yeah, I want him.

02:07:57.000 Blitz and the cream stand in London Crease Marine Blake has surrendered.

02:08:03.000 Shannon free to head with the fear of a sitting, not bloody lenders.

02:08:10.000 They just say, I sold you so.

02:08:12.000 See, I'll soil.

02:08:20.000 You believe I'm sold you so long for salute if you can't keep the pace without the text that the tweet says, We've crossed over into something, but I don't know what it is.

02:08:41.000 Followed.

02:08:43.000 He misses Dr. Foxotic.

02:08:48.000 What else has he got?

02:08:51.000 Bro, it's kind of wild that you could be like, you go to an AI thing and be just like make Hitler sing the vines and change the lyrics.

02:08:59.000 Oh, did it get banned on YouTube?

02:09:01.000 Of course it did.

02:09:03.000 No, it got reinstated.

02:09:04.000 It's removed.

02:09:07.000 It's so dumb, it's a joke.

02:09:09.000 Yeah.

02:09:09.000 You know, oh, yeah, did you guys see this one?

02:09:11.000 No.

02:09:12.000 It's Prince Andy.

02:09:16.000 Save yourself from Prince Andy.

02:09:21.000 Oh, you clear the way to the old chamber.

02:09:23.000 Oh, you let us through.

02:09:24.000 It's the Prince of Windsor.

02:09:25.000 Lock up all your sons and your daughters, too. 0.94

02:09:30.000 Run away, here he comes, so to speak.

02:09:32.000 That's a pun tell.

02:09:33.000 Every gel to run, then hide, Prince Andy.

02:09:36.000 He always did a little bit of a children.

02:09:40.000 Later, Jeffrey is on the iron with Mrs. Gisley Maxwell.

02:09:46.000 Blue Clinton as well.

02:09:48.000 And the gates in Trump and Eel on the stand of steam.

02:09:52.000 Prince Andy, and says he, did he likes them on the younger side, there's no doubt.

02:10:02.000 Now try to ask yourself why.

02:10:04.000 Minos, private chefs and the like would email each other 50,000 times about Jesus, All paid for with taxpayer funds.

02:10:19.000 The sweatiest hands in all England.

02:10:24.000 One handshake and then you will be drenched from your head down until your toes exceed.

02:10:29.000 So it is headlined.

02:10:33.000 and kids to me scream but the royals can do what they want for the rest of you are we blunt come just not lucky as long as we're not getting here he's got 72 stops teddy bears seriously just he's got lawyers and sir the man up to him surely will end up like virginia

02:11:10.000 he's actually a good tool daughter's a sight to be known, And the devil is why he's decided to stop by.

02:11:23.000 He'll take her off your hand straight to the island. 0.69

02:11:25.000 They'll be her to amend and bury her in the sand, never to be seen or heard again.

02:11:30.000 Commentary on, it's all the parts of the band, All right, We get it?

02:11:36.000 Uh, he actually does have 72 teddy bears.

02:11:40.000 Question for you now, with this whole entire thing, children, Epstein Island and everything do you think it's an actual fetish?

02:11:48.000 Do you think it's trying to hold things over other powerful people's head?

02:11:52.000 Do you think it's a adrenochrome that gives them special powers, like well, do you think they just really like being weird with children?

02:11:59.000 Uh, there's a couple conspiracies.

02:12:00.000 The leading conspiracy theory right now is that uh, Les Wexner hired Epstein to be his criminal fixer and uh, I don't know if that's true, but uh, is Lex Wesler Mossad?

02:12:10.000 Or uh, he's a billionaire.

02:12:12.000 What, what did?

02:12:12.000 What did he do?

02:12:13.000 He was the ceo Victorious Secret.

02:12:13.000 What company was?

02:12:16.000 Yeah, there was a lot of things about Epstein being Mossad too.

02:12:19.000 No uh, maybe that's because Ghilain Maxwell's dad was like uh Very, he wasn't overtly known to be like an agent, but he was treated like one when he died.

02:12:29.000 And so uh I I, I think it's fair to say uh, one of the theories, the first theories, was that he was, he would get dirt on powerful people to leverage against them for intelligence agencies.

02:12:41.000 However, right now many people are arguing, powerful people want to do illegal things and Jeffrey Epster was their guy.

02:12:47.000 So they, they basically bring this high school teacher Epstein, and say, you're gonna live like a king of an island and when we want something done, you you're the guy who gets it done and then all the bad stuff falls on you.

02:12:58.000 If it happens and Epstein's like wow, I get to be worth 500 million dollars, all I gotta do is evil shit.

02:13:02.000 And they go that way.

02:13:03.000 If you're the fall guy, the fall guy.

02:13:05.000 So why was Epstein acquiring these young girls?

02:13:08.000 Powerful men wanted wanted to bang young girls in a place where they're not gonna get caught. 0.99

02:13:11.000 Young Epstein was the 19 like, or 15, I know, but do you really think they like that, Those guys?

02:13:17.000 Yeah.

02:13:17.000 Fuck yeah, they did.

02:13:18.000 They're creepos.

02:13:19.000 They're fucking.

02:13:20.000 Then Ian's going to be like, well, they're actually hippophobiles.

02:13:23.000 Yeah, except for Epstein has been accused of procuring some kids who are as young as 10 years old.

02:13:28.000 And there are videos of 10-year-olds in these videos.

02:13:30.000 Like kids in bathtubs.

02:13:31.000 He's 70 years old.

02:13:32.000 Fucking a 22-year-old ain't enough for you.

02:13:34.000 Even that's creepy.

02:13:36.000 I think that's like we all go like, okay, fine.

02:13:38.000 That's legal.

02:13:38.000 An adult can make their own decision.

02:13:40.000 No, that is creepy.

02:13:41.000 That's 70.

02:13:41.000 That is.

02:13:42.000 That is creepy.

02:13:42.000 Yeah.

02:13:43.000 So when we learned that, you know, Bill Gates, he admitted that he had that affair with those two Russian women.

02:13:49.000 So that corroborates what Epstein was saying in that email.

02:13:52.000 Epstein was like, Bill Gates got an STD and accidentally gave it to his wife.

02:13:56.000 Then he needed antibiotics to secretly give to his wife to cure her of the disease he gave her.

02:14:00.000 Holy shit.

02:14:02.000 So this is part of the theory that Epstein's existence was Bill Gates would go to him and say, I need antibiotics that no one can know about and a way to secretly give it to my wife.

02:14:12.000 And Epstein would be like, I'll do it.

02:14:13.000 And the billionaire.

02:14:15.000 Was it like the clap?

02:14:15.000 You know what I mean?

02:14:17.000 It's probably the clap.

02:14:18.000 I mean, like, if he's going to slip antibiotics to her, it's going to be either gonorrhea or chlamydia.

02:14:23.000 The clap.

02:14:24.000 The clap.

02:14:25.000 Classic.

02:14:26.000 Syphilis, maybe.

02:14:28.000 Yeah, but they got divorced.

02:14:31.000 So she figured something out.

02:14:33.000 And she became a really rich woman.

02:14:36.000 Well, she was the whole time.

02:14:37.000 I mean, like, she's married to Bill Gates.

02:14:39.000 She's got a credit card.

02:14:40.000 You know what I mean?

02:14:41.000 Melinda Gates walks into a bank.

02:14:42.000 They'll give whatever the fuck she wants.

02:14:43.000 Yeah.

02:14:44.000 Same thing with what's her name?

02:14:45.000 That broad Amazon Jeffrey.

02:14:47.000 McKenzie Bezos.

02:14:48.000 What's wrong with him?

02:14:49.000 Why would he get married again?

02:14:50.000 One.

02:14:51.000 I mean, I'm sure there's a lot of stipulations in that marriage, one.

02:14:54.000 But two, like, this guy always says, like, he's got so much money.

02:14:57.000 Why wouldn't he put a lot of money towards reshifting the laws towards men and marriages and getting just completely like you can't fix that?

02:15:08.000 Bro, these guys get killed.

02:15:10.000 Well, I do think one of the biggest problems we have culturally is no-fault divorce.

02:15:14.000 That nobody's at fault?

02:15:16.000 Basically, women win, is the way the law works. 1.00

02:15:19.000 So if a woman gets married to a guy and then decides she doesn't like it, she can get half his stuff and just leave. 0.63

02:15:23.000 That's crazy.

02:15:24.000 So like the issue with the way divorce used to work was you can't just leave and a court could order you to therapy and like because it was like, hey, you can't, you know.

02:15:24.000 Yeah.

02:15:34.000 And the idea was the reason why the wife would get half your stuff in alimony is because she's not working to generate revenue. 1.00

02:15:41.000 The man is income.

02:15:43.000 But now if they, if they're divorced for a legitimate reason, the man is responsible.

02:15:47.000 Divorce requires something. 0.76

02:15:49.000 It required fault.

02:15:50.000 So the woman would be like, my husband is abusive. 0.72

02:15:52.000 Here's proof.

02:15:52.000 They'd say, okay, well, then you're free to go.

02:15:54.000 Like, this is wrong.

02:15:55.000 And now you got to pay your shit.

02:15:57.000 Or she'd be like, he cheated on me. 0.55

02:15:59.000 He's unfaithful.

02:16:00.000 Now it's just literally like a woman can be like irreconcilable. 1.00

02:16:03.000 Yeah, I don't like this anymore.

02:16:04.000 Yep.

02:16:05.000 And then she's like, so I get his stuff.

02:16:07.000 Yo, you got to be a dumb guy, unfortunately, to marry a broad that you don't know and trust, that provides nothing. 1.00

02:16:17.000 Because then this is why, especially right now.

02:16:19.000 So I don't blame all the red pill guys who are like, don't get married.

02:16:22.000 People who you know and trust do you the same way?

02:16:26.000 It happens quite often when you feel you know and trust somebody and you get done.

02:16:32.000 I think the issue is marriage used to be for all of humanity, you married someone you knew since you were a child.

02:16:41.000 So we have some cultures with arranged marriage where you're like 10 and you meet and they're like, you're going to get married to my family already.

02:16:41.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:16:48.000 And so it used to be you lived in a town of 300 people, you went to school, and then as you got older, like even in the 50s, you were dating the girl from your school, your high school square, you got married.

02:16:48.000 Yeah.

02:17:00.000 Today, the problem is, yeah, some dude from New York met this wacky from California who loves surfing, and he's a finance bro, but she's really hot and he has fun with her and he's like, this is amazing.

02:17:11.000 And they click after three months.

02:17:13.000 And then they get married.

02:17:14.000 And then she goes, My plan for the future is to get a van and drive around the coast of California with our babies.

02:17:20.000 And he goes, He's like, Whoa.

02:17:21.000 Yeah, I'm not doing that.

02:17:22.000 I'm going to get a penthouse.

02:17:23.000 We're going to live in New York.

02:17:24.000 And she goes, Whoa, hold on a minute.

02:17:27.000 F.

02:17:28.000 So I look at it like this: you got, throughout human history, here's a guy, here's a chick, and here's their lives, and they're going like this.

02:17:35.000 And then they get married and they stay exactly where they are.

02:17:38.000 Today, you got a guy over here going like this, and then they go like that, and they get married.

02:17:42.000 Exactly.

02:17:43.000 So, I will say this for me and my wife.

02:17:47.000 We're both from Chicago.

02:17:48.000 We grew up listening to the same music.

02:17:50.000 We like the same restaurants.

02:17:51.000 We enjoy much of the same activities.

02:17:55.000 We are both lapsed Catholics.

02:17:56.000 It's like we've known each other for decades.

02:18:00.000 I have no concerns at all.

02:18:03.000 That she's going to wrench you in the end.

02:18:05.000 Never going to happen.

02:18:06.000 She is the best person I know, and I can say that with ease.

02:18:10.000 I know that if I put on Alkaline Trio, she and I are going to sing the exact same song, that we know all the words to the same music.

02:18:17.000 I got to be honest.

02:18:19.000 You got lucky, though.

02:18:21.000 I agree and disagree.

02:18:24.000 I got lucky in that I'm doing what humans have always done: marrying someone who grew up the same way as you with similar goals and desires.

02:18:33.000 Like we don't even argue about stuff because we're like the exact same way.

02:18:42.000 And so the arguments we have are usually just like, well, you know, if we do that, I mean, I'm not sure that will work.

02:18:48.000 Well, I think we have to because we'll do this.

02:18:50.000 And I go, well, okay, well, I see what you're saying.

02:18:52.000 It does make sense.

02:18:53.000 I think you have to work for that, but in a sense of luck, because it's so easy to fall for not that.

02:18:59.000 It's so easy to get into a situation where you guys aren't perfect for each other, but like you said, for this 30 minutes, whoa, this is really fun.

02:19:07.000 And you don't realize that 40 years is not the same as this 30 minutes.

02:19:12.000 I think it is beautiful and in a way lucky, but you do have to work for that.

02:19:16.000 And it is a people, bro, because it's such a beautiful thing to have.

02:19:21.000 People also need to have these conversations before they get married.

02:19:23.000 Like, hey, my ultimate vision is I'm going to go A, B, C, D, and then what do you want to do?

02:19:28.000 Well, I want to do ABCF.

02:19:30.000 And it's like, you know, I compromise a little bit.

02:19:33.000 I could work with that.

02:19:34.000 I mean, I think we're, you know, like my wife very much wants to go skiing all the time.

02:19:39.000 And I said, then we'll figure out how we find a good opportunity for doing winter sports and doing skiing stuff.

02:19:45.000 I'm not a big skier.

02:19:46.000 I skateboard.

02:19:46.000 Yeah.

02:19:47.000 She doesn't skateboard.

02:19:48.000 Did you snowboard at all?

02:19:49.000 Actually, I'm better at snowboarding than skiing.

02:19:51.000 Yeah, yeah, me too.

02:19:52.000 So I like skiing, and I have fun.

02:19:55.000 I have a lot.

02:19:55.000 I love skiing.

02:19:56.000 It's fun.

02:19:56.000 She won't let you snowboard in her ski?

02:19:57.000 Like, that's not the same thing.

02:19:58.000 Well, no, I can do whatever I want.

02:20:00.000 I'm saying she's like, if someone said, do you plan on going skiing this year?

02:20:05.000 I go, I don't know.

02:20:06.000 If you go to her, she's like, yes, here are the times I'm going skiing.

02:20:09.000 And so I'm like, yeah, absolutely.

02:20:10.000 Have fun.

02:20:10.000 That'd be great.

02:20:12.000 And for our anniversary, she was planning on doing the ski trip.

02:20:17.000 And I said, no, no, like, why don't I go with you?

02:20:19.000 And then we'll do our anniversary dinner and everything.

02:20:21.000 And I'll go skiing.

02:20:23.000 And I was miserable at first because I'm not, I'm good enough at snowboarding, but we went to Jackson Hole, which is, are you familiar?

02:20:32.000 I'm pretty sure it's a hard place to ski.

02:20:34.000 Exactly.

02:20:35.000 It's notorious for having limited beginner slopes.

02:20:39.000 And even the beginner slopes are a little like advanced.

02:20:42.000 So when I show up, I'm like, I ski maybe like three times.

02:20:46.000 I've skied maybe like three times in the past 10 years.

02:20:48.000 She's good.

02:20:49.000 She's super good. 0.68

02:20:49.000 She's double black diamond jumping off mountains. 0.68

02:20:51.000 Oh, really?

02:20:52.000 Yeah.

02:20:52.000 Wow.

02:20:53.000 And so it's really funny when I'm like, are you going to come skiing with me on the greens?

02:20:56.000 And it's hysterical that you're not as good as her.

02:20:58.000 And, you know, I'm good at skateboarding, but she's like, she's like flying. 0.90

02:21:02.000 She's jumping, cutting corners. 0.57

02:21:04.000 She's like, I'm going to go on the double black diamonds, but I'll come ski with you.

02:21:07.000 Bro, that's ridiculous.

02:21:08.000 So I told her, I was like, I got really pissed because I'm like, I'm going down the green just like people.

02:21:13.000 Snowboarding or skiing.

02:21:15.000 Why do you choose to ski if you could snowboard?

02:21:18.000 So I'm better.

02:21:19.000 What I'm saying, like, is it the skiing way you guys?

02:21:20.000 Oh, it is.

02:21:21.000 Skiing is way easier and more relaxing.

02:21:23.000 It is 100%.

02:21:24.000 It is work to snowboard, but aren't you good at it?

02:21:27.000 Aren't you like?

02:21:27.000 I am good enough at snowboarding.

02:21:29.000 I can actually do some tricks.

02:21:30.000 Yeah.

02:21:31.000 But if you could do tricks, bro, you could get down a mountain.

02:21:33.000 I just am bored.

02:21:35.000 Oh, I can easily get down a mountain.

02:21:36.000 I've gone on double black diamonds on a snowboard.

02:21:38.000 Oh, all right.

02:21:39.000 Yeah, yeah.

02:21:39.000 I can, I can rip on a snowboard.

02:21:41.000 I can do all sorts of crazy shit on a snowboard.

02:21:43.000 So you want to ski for it's it's so much easier, dude.

02:21:47.000 It is way more legal.

02:21:48.000 You just put them on and you just stand there.

02:21:50.000 And so I'm like, if I put on the snowboard, I do, I snowboard once a year, and I'm going to have to get warmed up.

02:21:58.000 Yo, your legs can't take it.

02:22:00.000 Well, I mean, I skate all the time.

02:22:01.000 So I don't really have a big yeah, but skating is bro.

02:22:04.000 Snowboarding is so much leaning and legs do it and then I go to get a drink and eat at the at the top.

02:22:11.000 I do it and then get back to the hill and I go, whoa, my legs aren't there anymore.

02:22:15.000 They're gone from underneath me.

02:22:17.000 If someone said, we're like, if I don't know, so when we got there, I was like, I think I'd rather just snowboard because I want to just strap on and just go.

02:22:26.000 And I was like, yeah, but the problem is if I'm snowboarding, it's going to be a task.

02:22:31.000 Like, it's intense.

02:22:32.000 I'm going to be actually trying to do things.

02:22:34.000 And I probably like jumping, maybe some grabs, some spins.

02:22:38.000 I just want to chill.

02:22:39.000 And I can put on the skis because I'm also pretty good at rollerblading.

02:22:42.000 And I can just stand.

02:22:43.000 I just go.

02:22:44.000 And then just be like.

02:22:45.000 You said you were pizza in the whole time?

02:22:47.000 When I first got there, I was like, I need to get warmed up.

02:22:50.000 Where's the magic carpet?

02:22:52.000 And Alison's like, there isn't one.

02:22:54.000 And then I'm like, what?

02:22:56.000 And then we ask Guy, where's the beginner?

02:22:58.000 And he's like, right there.

02:22:59.000 And it's like.

02:23:00.000 It's blue.

02:23:01.000 No, well, it's next to a blue and notoriously difficult. 0.78

02:23:04.000 And there was no powder.

02:23:05.000 It was a lot of ice.

02:23:06.000 And I'm like, oh, I got to get warmed up on this.

02:23:09.000 So I was stressed the whole time.

02:23:10.000 I just, I'm skiing for the first time in a year.

02:23:12.000 And so I was not happy.

02:23:13.000 And I said, I'm going to go to snowboard.

02:23:16.000 And then I was like, like, snowboarding's fine.

02:23:20.000 It's just with skis.

02:23:22.000 You go to the lift and you just sit.

02:23:24.000 Yeah.

02:23:24.000 Oh, the snowboarding getting over, bro.

02:23:25.000 It hurts your knee.

02:23:26.000 You're bending your leg and you're pushing.

02:23:28.000 And I'm like, you're going to tear your ACL at any moment.

02:23:31.000 Yeah.

02:23:31.000 It is such a pain in the ass snowboarding.

02:23:33.000 And so I was like, I don't feel like snowboarding.

02:23:36.000 I just don't feel like it.

02:23:37.000 And there's, and there's traverses and there's flats, and I like having the poles. 1.00

02:23:41.000 And then I was like, you know what?

02:23:44.000 I'm just going to go chill.

02:23:45.000 And I said, all right, screw it.

02:23:47.000 I'll go skiing.

02:23:48.000 Let's just go to the top.

02:23:49.000 And then we went back to the top.

02:23:50.000 And then we literally, I was like, wait, what's that?

02:23:53.000 There were a bunch of little kids and they were going to the magic carpet.

02:23:56.000 Three runs in the magic carpet and I was warmed up and ready to go.

02:23:59.000 And then I skied the whole time with no problem.

02:24:01.000 You just like, I can't just go on a green without having skied in a year.

02:24:01.000 Yeah.

02:24:06.000 Yeah.

02:24:06.000 Because it's just locking my muscles and I'm not, I can't do it.

02:24:09.000 Have you ever seen the little ski blades?

02:24:10.000 Like the oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:24:11.000 Those are cool.

02:24:12.000 And now I've seen also the little bikes.

02:24:14.000 Yep.

02:24:14.000 The tripod three wheels, not wheels, but three blades.

02:24:17.000 Those little blades and they ride the bike. 1.00

02:24:19.000 Yeah, you know, to be honest, I might, we're actually going skiing soon.

02:24:24.000 And I might go snowboarding because I like doing tricks.

02:24:28.000 The problem is a lot of these places have traverses, which is like, it's a long flat.

02:24:32.000 And that is, woof, you get a lot of stuff.

02:24:32.000 Yeah.

02:24:33.000 And then you just pull out measurable.

02:24:35.000 Yeah, but I got a snowboard and it's the step-in.

02:24:39.000 It's great.

02:24:40.000 You just stick your foot in and snap your foot down.

02:24:40.000 What is that?

02:24:43.000 Yeah, it's not like the old school buckles and stuff.

02:24:45.000 Yes, yeah.

02:24:46.000 But the skis are so much easier.

02:24:48.000 You just snap, snap, and you go.

02:24:49.000 So if I'm trying to just chill, skis are so easy.

02:24:52.000 The ski boots are horribly not comfortable, though, right?

02:24:56.000 I think they're fine.

02:24:57.000 I heard snow boots, snowboarding boots are way better.

02:24:59.000 Yeah, they're way more comfy.

02:25:01.000 Let's go to callers.

02:25:02.000 I'll start with Kelnan.

02:25:03.000 What's going on?

02:25:05.000 Hey, thanks for taking my call tonight.

02:25:07.000 Indeed.

02:25:09.000 So my modest proposal for tonight to deal with the growing communism problem is to give them exactly what they want, but a twisted way.

02:25:16.000 Bring back McCarthyism on steroids, proceed to put them into labor camps consistently, and if they do not work, have escalating punishment that ultimately results in capital punishment.

02:25:26.000 Now, there will likely be many who do not wish to work, and therefore we will likely need an area such as a wall to deal with that.

02:25:33.000 Sold.

02:25:36.000 And a re-education.

02:25:37.000 Hey, I say, like, let's take a big, like 10,000-acre swath and call it Commutown and tell all the communists, this is yours to be a communist nation, special economic zone. 0.71

02:25:50.000 There.

02:25:50.000 And you know what will happen?

02:25:52.000 Nothing.

02:25:54.000 You listen to communists now talking about why Cuba is failing as always.

02:25:58.000 Well, the embargo, the embargo.

02:26:00.000 Why is it always that communists always need to trade with capitalist countries?

02:26:04.000 You guys know that famous commune we've talked about, right?

02:26:07.000 Where it's like there's 100 people.

02:26:09.000 They only allow someone in.

02:26:10.000 If someone leaves, it can never be more than 100 people.

02:26:13.000 The funny thing is, it's a commune with an authority structure for admittance.

02:26:18.000 So it's not communism.

02:26:19.000 Nope.

02:26:21.000 It's impossible.

02:26:22.000 They don't accept anybody. 0.77

02:26:23.000 They don't accept everybody.

02:26:24.000 We got border walls.

02:26:25.000 The company town.

02:26:27.000 The problem is you keep mentioning they don't work.

02:26:29.000 That's why my proposal requires the work.

02:26:31.000 Look, you already sold me.

02:26:33.000 I'm already on your team.

02:26:34.000 What if, hear me out, we promised all of the communists at, let's make a city. 0.88

02:26:40.000 Let's call it Chicago.

02:26:43.000 No, no, no, no.

02:26:44.000 Chicago's too big.

02:26:45.000 Let's say something like, hold on, hold on.

02:26:48.000 Give me a second.

02:26:49.000 I'm going to go to Google Maps real quick.

02:26:51.000 Small town.

02:26:51.000 My is my proposal.

02:26:53.000 We are going to go to, let's find.

02:26:56.000 Canada, please.

02:26:57.000 Oh, yeah.

02:26:58.000 If it's in Canada, make it Regina. 0.97

02:27:00.000 No, it's a nation like we need to do.

02:27:02.000 Regina.

02:27:03.000 Regina.

02:27:04.000 Let's go with. 0.80

02:27:04.000 All right. 0.80

02:27:07.000 Let's go with Yakuts, Oregon.

02:27:09.000 Canada is a giant vagina. 1.00

02:27:12.000 It is.

02:27:12.000 So let's go to Newport, Oregon.

02:27:14.000 All right.

02:27:15.000 And what we'll do is we'll eminent domain all the people who live there. 0.66

02:27:18.000 It's not a very big place, but it's big enough.

02:27:21.000 Everyone who lives there.

02:27:22.000 Let me pull this up.

02:27:23.000 This is going to be great.

02:27:23.000 You guys are going to love it.

02:27:24.000 Newport, Oregon.

02:27:26.000 Let's see how many people live there.

02:27:27.000 I'm hoping it's like 30,000.

02:27:30.000 10,000.

02:27:31.000 Okay.

02:27:31.000 We're going to eminent domain it.

02:27:33.000 Everybody's going to get a beautiful, beautiful compensation package.

02:27:36.000 The best sub-say, better than anyone's seen.

02:27:39.000 And I think maybe a million dollars on top.

02:27:43.000 And they can move out.

02:27:45.000 We give the communists Newport, Oregon, move them all in, and then shell it. 1.00

02:27:51.000 Let's see how it works.

02:27:57.000 Get by with a little help from Artie.

02:28:01.000 The king of battle.

02:28:02.000 Indeed.

02:28:04.000 Yeah.

02:28:04.000 Like a helicopter ride.

02:28:07.000 Here's what we can do.

02:28:09.000 We can have a big, free theme park with helicopter rides, only self-proclaimed communists.

02:28:15.000 The helicopters go up and they bring you to the communist paradise. 0.76

02:28:19.000 And when it comes back, it's empty because we dropped you off.

02:28:25.000 I'm loving all of this.

02:28:27.000 If there's one thing I have to praise Stalin and Mao for doing, it's killing communists.

02:28:35.000 Communists killed a lot of commies.

02:28:37.000 They did.

02:28:37.000 What was that?

02:28:38.000 No one killed more communists than Mao, right?

02:28:40.000 How did he kill communists if he was like kind of what?

02:28:44.000 I don't get that.

02:28:46.000 First, he ruled with an iron fist, and that killed a lot of people, and he had to persecute a lot of people to secure his place as the leader and the dictator.

02:28:54.000 But then unfortunately, communism leads to a lot of famine and ends up killing a ton of people.

02:29:00.000 And then he also famously used this as a weapon of war against the Ukrainians.

02:29:05.000 Really, Stalin did in the Holden War by not giving them food, right?

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - February 26, 2026

THEY KILLED THEM | Timcast IRL #1457 w-Jay Dyer & Jake Botch

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