On this episode of the Culture War podcast, we discuss the Minnesota ICE raid, the Air Marshals mistake a crazed man for an ice agent, and the growing tensions between ICE and anti-ICE agitators in the state. Plus, we have a special guest on the show.
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00:04:40.000Tim Walz warns Minnesota could be a Fort Sumter moment after his policies caused chaos in the state.
00:04:46.000In an interview with The Atlantic, Minnesota Governor Tim Walz warned that the rising tension in the state between ICE, anti-ICE agitators, and federal immigration enforcement agents could be a Fort Sumter moment for the country.
00:04:58.000He questioned, adding, it's a physical assault.
00:05:01.000It's an armed force that's assaulting, that's killing my constituents, my citizens.
00:05:05.000The Atlantic noted of Walt's Fort Sumter comment, he let his question about Fort Sumter hang without an answer.
00:05:10.000Fort Sumter, which lies in the middle of South Carolina's Charleston Harbor, was the site of an April attack in 1861 that marked the official beginning of the Civil War.
00:05:19.000Waltz also brought up abolitionist John Brown during his interview with The Atlantic, with the figure rising to fame after storing a federal arsenal in Harper's Ferry, West Virginia in 1859.
00:05:45.000And when you have the state government clearly inciting their population, there's a possibility that they're involved because of the signal chat stuff.
00:05:56.000If it's not, you know, if it doesn't go up to Tim Waltz himself, there are people in the state government that were involved in that signal chat, helping to organize what amounts to an insurrection.
00:06:06.000It's not just a protest or just protesters.
00:06:09.000They're there specifically to inhibit ICE activities.
00:06:12.000They're there to specifically prevent ICE from carrying out their duties that are by the book, that are legally, that's what they're supposed to be doing.
00:06:25.000So if it is a Fort Sumter moment, or if it is a situation like that, it is the Democrat, basically the Democrat establishment that's to blame.
00:07:04.000So to your point, I do think that it's convenient for Walls and for other politicians in Minnesota.
00:07:10.000But the fact that there's that signal chat, that's really, I think that really kind of shines a light on the way the Democratic Party as a whole acts.
00:07:20.000Or actually, probably more broadly, the left.
00:07:22.000There's people that are Canadian that are implicated in this, in the Canadian government, implicated in being involved or donating or trying to argue about that.
00:07:31.000Yeah, I forget who broke the story, but it's not just, you know, it's not homegrown.
00:07:38.000It's not just grassroots people on the street.
00:07:41.000It's organized by the establishment left.
00:07:45.000And it's something that, you know, Tim has been going on about how the right doesn't have an analog for that.
00:07:51.000And I mean, whether or not that's actually the case, it's not, like, you can't deny that the left is organized against the federal government.
00:08:02.000And if Tim Walz really cared about the people of Minnesota, his people, he would say, listen, although I don't agree with ICE, you need to stay home.
00:08:33.000I really think that, like, I was reading their manual.
00:08:36.000They asked them, like I said this the other night, they asked them to bring Leaf Blower so they could redirect like the tear gas and stuff towards the cops.
00:08:42.000They said, you get extra bonus points or that they're looking to get people hurt.
00:08:45.000What do you mean by extra bonus points?
00:09:00.000And he wants it to be the Fort Sumter time.
00:09:02.000Did any of you guys see the X post where there was a, someone was handing out pre-made signs to protesters and stuff?
00:09:10.000So, I mean, they do that in New York all the time.
00:09:12.000So this is, again, this isn't some kind of grassroots thing.
00:09:16.000This is, this is, it is, it is organized.
00:09:19.000They're extremely efficient at raising money.
00:09:23.000They're extremely efficient at riling up their base, riling up the people that are honestly, they're people with not a lot to lose generally.
00:09:31.000Not everyone, of course, because, you know, Pretty, the guy that was shot by the cops just the other day, like, you know, he had a life.
00:09:37.000He didn't have, I don't think he had a wife and kids, but he had a life.
00:10:06.000And to Lisa's point, these people are just cannon fodder because the more of them that get hurt, the more videos that the left can use as propaganda, which is straight up agitp, the more that they can use these people to turn the normal people against the administration, the better they like it.
00:10:25.000Yeah, it's taking away from the real problem and they're deflecting.
00:10:28.000They're covering up the real problems that the Democrats are causing in our country.
00:10:32.000And unfortunately, this past week, I have seen, especially after the Alex Predi situation, many conservatives falling for this anti-ICE propaganda.
00:10:41.000And while, of course, I do, I am very sad that Renee Nicole Goode had to die and so did Alex Predty.
00:10:50.000I mean, don't act like, oh, it could have been any of us.
00:10:56.000I'm not showing up and messing with an ICE officer, even if I think they are doing something incorrect.
00:11:00.000But to that point, that that is what they want the left wants people to think.
00:11:04.000They want people to think that these were just innocent people walking through the streets doing their normally, normal daily routine, and ICE decided that they were going to attack them and beat them down or what have you.
00:11:40.000It wasn't everybody saying, like, oh, like the black people were coming around and go, like, look, white people, now it's happening to you too.
00:11:56.000I mean, look, the idea of racism is evolving significantly.
00:12:01.00010 years ago, there was there, well, more than 10 years ago now, probably 15 years ago, it became very in vogue to say, oh, racism is not about color.
00:12:11.000And that has that made its way through kind of society on the left.
00:12:15.000And now there's a lot of people that are just like, well, I don't care what you call me because if you, it's just a means to shut me up or a means to try to delegitimize what I'm saying.
00:12:27.000And I think that, you know, for better or for worse, that's the condition that it's going to, that's the situation in our society moving forward.
00:12:35.000You need to change the terminology though.
00:12:36.000Like when people say to me, like, oh, you're racist, I'm like, yep, yep, I'm like, I'm not, right?
00:13:10.000But then they went, that's how they get a communist revolution.
00:13:12.000They want the government to become the fascists that they say they are so that they can then tell the community, hey, look, we were right, come together, let's overthrow this.
00:14:08.000Your accusations no longer mean anything.
00:14:11.000It's like, it's like calling Trump a Nazi, right?
00:14:14.000Like Donald Trump is clearly not a national socialist, right?
00:14:19.000He is, and Nazi is a very specific thing.
00:14:22.000Even if you're calling, like, if they were to just call, when they call people fascist, then you're like, all right, maybe you have some kind of reason to equate a person with a fascist because fascism is usually nationalist and authoritarian.
00:14:37.000And so, you know, maybe there's some kind of similarity, but Nazi is a very, very specific thing.
00:14:45.000They want Trump to get that living space for the German people.
00:15:03.000There are real racists too, which is the sad thing about all this conflation is that if someone really kind of ignorantly thinks that I'm those who say that people are different, I mean, people are different based on their racial history.
00:15:15.000Yeah, any kind of superiority based on a genetic code is like, bro, you need to teach kids early that that's not necessarily like homo, you know, genetic homogeneity happens when you like you cross-breed, you get the strengths from different gene genomes.
00:15:28.000And if people don't know that, it gets lost in a shuffle.
00:15:43.000And like when I was growing up, like nobody cared what your what color your skin was.
00:15:49.000And you did like, it was not an issue.
00:15:53.000There was very rarely did you hear people throw around the term racist because in the 90s and early aughts, people were just like, yeah, that's kind of old.
00:16:04.000Maybe my grandfather made some kind of remarks that were like, you know, that's what racism was back then.
00:16:11.000And so it was largely, it was largely considered a thing of the past, you know?
00:16:19.000And then with the advent of the way that the left has been behaving where they, again, changed the meaning of the phrase racist and said, oh, everybody's racist.
00:16:30.000And they've really tried to awaken a racial, a critical racial consciousness.
00:16:35.000And they say that kind of stuff all the time.
00:16:37.000They want people to consider themselves a race, and they want people to focus on that to the detriment of our society, right?
00:16:46.000Like we are not a better society if people are like, no, I'm going to make sure that I'm focusing on my people as opposed to focusing on the United States as a whole, right?
00:16:58.000Like if you're like, hey, I think that everyone in the country deserves the same opportunities and the same rights and to be treated the same, that's generally what it used to be like.
00:17:09.000But that's not what people want nowadays because of the way that the left's kind of.
00:17:14.000I think if there's something special, though, about like, okay, so I am like a mix of different things, right?
00:17:21.000I'm Irish English political Norwegian, right?
00:17:39.000And I think Homan did state that the reason he's here is not because things have been going fairly well.
00:17:44.000But hopefully now there's going to be some negotiations where things can calm down.
00:17:48.000I think the terrifying thing about Minnesota, the situation with Predi, the situation with Renee Good, is that we're looking at a leftist space in this country that are being radicalized.
00:17:58.000They're being told that ICE are Nazis.
00:19:01.000Yeah, no, you're right, because there's a certain faction of the left that wants the violence.
00:19:06.000Doesn't matter if it's about the Palestinians or about ICE or about the no kings.
00:19:10.000They want action and they want it in the streets and they want to be heroes.
00:19:14.000And you're always going to have that no matter what happens.
00:19:17.000Don't you think the media, though, has a little bit more responsibility in situations like this to calm things down?
00:19:23.000The politicians, they're running for re-election, but the press, they're just lying.
00:19:28.000It's a purposeful disinformation campaign, whether it's airbrushing these martyrs or just not even saying what these people are really doing.
00:19:39.000This video went viral yesterday, that one that you showed, where Predty is kicking the taillight out of this vehicle.
00:19:44.000And immediately these networks sprang into action, claiming this was an AI video.
00:19:49.000Totally fabricated argument trying to downplay that this guy actually was a violent guy.
00:19:55.000Doesn't mean he deserved anything, but I think the context here matters.
00:19:59.000And we did see some, I would say, middle-of-the-road people kind of walk back.
00:20:02.000They thought this was just some legal observer.
00:20:07.000But when you look at how MS Now runs that airbrushed photo, it's seemingly this addiction to driving the narrative either for ratings or ideology, and it's making people go nuts.
00:20:21.000Yeah, it's like when you have some guy in a violent situation with cops, they always put the guy's like middle school graduation picture on the screen from four years ago.
00:21:12.000It is to a lesser degree our responsibility to do what we can to push back.
00:21:18.000But the point that I'm making is, you know, we were talking a little bit about the signal chat and how the government of Minnesota is involved in it, or at least people in the government of Minnesota were involved in the signal chat.
00:21:33.000And so the media is just the information arm.
00:21:36.000That's why they did things like make Pretty or Predty look like he's a, you know, he darkened his skin.
00:21:44.000They made him look a little filled out.
00:21:46.000That's why they made Joe Rogan look like, that's why they made Joe Rogan look like he was kind of sickly when he was talking on that.
00:21:52.000You know, they do what they can to kind of shape the narrative.
00:22:43.000They want to listen to what this guy has to say.
00:22:45.000A lot of times it's, in addition to that, the media that amplifies their message.
00:22:49.000Even like trying to counter their narrative, sometimes just putting them on TV and saying, look how bad they are, is showing 30 million people the idiot.
00:22:57.000And then they go to sleep and they think about the idiot they heard earlier and they remember what he said.
00:23:01.000The people in the entertainment world that are making these comments, they're making these comments because they feel like it's acceptable because people in the media have been making these comments and because people in Washington have been making these.
00:23:15.000They're going to take off on their private plane and go to Bora Bora while it's all happening.
00:23:18.000And then they're here to have like whatever's left over.
00:23:22.000I don't know if you guys played the so I don't know if they want me to say this, but I'm going to say it anyway because I assume if at any point in the future I get like any kind of network deal, I won't be able to say stuff like this.
00:23:38.000But they were very much concerned about a rhetorical escalation in this conflict.
00:23:44.000I'm saying this because I deeply respect what they said when they reached out.
00:23:48.000The producers were concerned that the language is getting too extreme.
00:23:53.000Not to anything, but I'm just trying to paraphrase here.
00:23:55.000There are people online saying, good, they're glad Predi's dead and Renee Good and all this stuff.
00:24:00.000And they're like, we do not want this.
00:24:04.000And so my view is very much, you know, in any normal circumstance, Predi would just be some goofy liberal in a hospital and you'd roll your eyes at his goofy liberal thing and that'd be the end of it.
00:24:15.000But what we're seeing with this radicalization with statements like this, it's driving people to an extreme position where they go out, getting into fights, thinking they're fighting this imaginary shadow demon.
00:24:27.000And it creates what I described as an unfortunate series of events.
00:24:31.000I don't think any of those agents went out there with the intention to murder anybody or kill anybody.
00:24:34.000I don't think he went out there with the intention to murder anybody.
00:24:37.000But I'm going to say this, because I try to be light when I go on Jesse's show.
00:24:41.000That man absolutely knew what he was doing could result in his death.
00:24:45.000I don't think he deserved to die or anything like that.
00:25:16.000That was the first thing I said when you guys rapped.
00:25:17.000And that was exactly what the producers were basically saying to me: I don't want to put words in their mouth, but they were just, we're concerned that the language around this is pushing people to extreme ends.
00:25:28.000That's just looking for you to be responsible.
00:25:30.000Like, when it comes to the way that you phrase things, they're just like, look, you know, and it makes perfect sense because the left doesn't do it.
00:25:37.000Well, I guess my point is, I would say the simplest way, Fox is concerned that, and good, I can't speak for MS now or any of these other outlets because I don't know, but Fox is genuinely concerned that the rhetoric is pushing people to extreme ends, even on the right.
00:25:55.000I said this this morning that there, all of the prominent conservative personalities, people on the right, have none of them have celebrated Renee Good's death or said she deserved it or anything like that, or Predty.
00:26:08.000They've been very critical of the actions these people chose to take.
00:26:11.000They've simultaneously criticized the left for celebrating the death of Charlie Kirk.
00:26:15.000But at the same time, prominent liberal personalities also denounce the death of Charlie Kirk to a great degree, not completely.
00:26:21.000The issue is it's the run of the mill left.
00:26:25.000And I always argue it's a tendency on the, it's a generality on the left with a tendency on the right.
00:26:29.000That is, when you look at the basic people who are commenting on liberal podcasts, posting TikToks, they're celebrating Charlie's death.
00:26:38.000When you look at the right, they're not.
00:26:53.000One, I think, as much as we want to criticize many of the liberals, they do try to keep things at a certain level, not all of them.
00:27:00.000And the right certainly does want to because there's a moral, I don't say this in a directive way, but a moral superiority of like, we believe killing is wrong.
00:27:11.000But that being said, the left sees these portion of the right celebrating the death of these people, mocking them, making jokes, and it's creating a, I don't know, a tit for tat that's not going to be quelled.
00:27:27.000I certainly think prominent liberal personalities are feeding into this, calling them Nazis and pushing these lies and manipulations.
00:27:34.000And MS now photoshopping the guy's face.
00:27:37.000But I don't know that there's any good answer because it doesn't matter.
00:27:42.000The issue at play is going to be the masses on both sides, if they get critical enough to want to kill each other, then it's going to happen regardless of what we want or what we say.
00:27:51.000And we come to a point where, you know, I'll say something like, this guy does not deserve this.
00:28:28.000Let's jump to this story from Fox News.
00:28:30.000Breaking Bad Star calls for revolution after federal agent shooting in Minneapolis.
00:28:36.000Actor Giancarlo Esposito tells Variety that very rich old white men are exerting their power to suppress our own people after weekend shooting.
00:28:44.000I want to add to this that Molly Ringwald said that the people who supported ICE will be treated as traitors and collaborators, just like in World War II.
00:28:52.000And if you don't know what that means, it means you're going to be executed.
00:29:31.000And they don't even know that's what they're starting.
00:29:32.000You know, some very rich old white men are exerting their power to suppress our own people, thus creating a feeling of civil war in the streets, preparing the hate, the haters to hate, teaching them how to shoot.
00:29:51.000They're not even trained right, to kill.
00:29:54.000This man, and I tell you what is the most important component of this is not that a celebrity is calling for revolution.
00:30:14.000Go talk to one of these guys doing wet works in foreign countries and talk to them about what happens when the system falls apart.
00:30:20.000Talk to them about in Egypt, when the military decided they could not keep a hand on the Muslim Brotherhood, so they showed up with AKs and started mowing people down, just killing them in the street.
00:30:33.000He'll be sitting in Santa Monica sipping his coffee saying, I think the rich white, boom, and then half his face is blown off and he's sitting there shaking.
00:30:40.000Can't hear anything with blood dripping from his mouth.
00:30:42.000That's exactly how his character in Breaking Bad got it.
00:30:47.000You know, and what he was saying, at least from my perspective, some of his diagnosis is correct or he's on the right track in that there are groups of older, I don't know if they're old white men, whatever, there's groups of, I think, consider them bankers that are structuring our economy for a collapse and anticipating street fighting in the United States.
00:31:04.000And they're happy for it because they don't like free speech and gun rights and property rights.
00:31:07.000They want a socialistic corporatocracy and they want us to be corporate slaves.
00:33:33.000We had Tony on the show, Tony Ortiz, and he said he's in the nothing ever happens camp.
00:33:37.000My argument to him is that the people who think nothing ever happens have a fictionalized or condensed view of what history really is.
00:33:46.000You read a history book, you'll read a single page explaining the entirety of World War II.
00:33:51.000Certainly overlooks the nuances of every year throughout the conflict or the American Revolution for that matter.
00:33:55.000People, like, I assure you, first and foremost, if you go to Times Square and ask someone when was the Declaration of Independence signed, they're going to be like, what's that?
00:34:05.000The next step you're going to get is people who say July 4th, 1776.
00:34:09.000And then only the smallest amount of people are going to say July 2nd, 1776, because they actually read it.
00:34:15.000And then you're going to ask people, when did the American Revolution start?
00:34:43.000And my point here is we are in the thick of it today.
00:34:47.000The American Revolutionary period was 20 years, and they were in the thick of it and didn't know what was going to happen and didn't think it was a war immediately.
00:34:55.000And we talk about the American Civil War.
00:34:57.000These people, when they say things like nothing ever happens, they don't realize that it was always going to be grains of sand making a heap or snowflakes in an avalanche.
00:35:08.000And so when these people say things like they want a revolution, that's when I'm looking at the market.
00:35:15.000I'm looking at the ticker being like, how do you reverse course on this?
00:35:21.000In which case, ultimately my point is the off-ramp for the frogs in the pot is cranking the temperature up 10 degrees instantly.
00:35:31.000Because the argument is these people who think nothing is happening are frogs sitting in a pot and the temperature is slowly rising so they don't notice.
00:36:08.000So how do you shock these people and wake them up?
00:36:10.000You crank the flame all the way to the top so it goes from 89 degrees to 120 and they go, holy crap, and they jump out.
00:36:18.000And my point is, shock and awe is likely the only thing to stop this, which is why I said the other day, Trump needs to stand down or suit up.
00:37:07.000It's the half measures that are inching us towards catastrophe.
00:37:10.000Now, that's why I said again, Trump needs to stand down or suit up.
00:37:14.000He needs to Insurrection Act, go into these places, send the National Guard out, say we're coming, like we're taking over domestic law enforcement to stop the extremism because you need to wake people up to what's going on.
00:37:30.000So then the other option is stop playing into leftist agit prop and giving them the photo ops they're asking for with these half measures.
00:37:38.000Yeah, in fact, I'd like to see them turn the temperature down by actually highlighting that they're releasing some of the nonviolent criminals if it's actually happening.
00:42:23.000But no, I'm not talking about like a secret service.
00:42:25.000I'm talking about, when you say overwhelming force, I want like every trained ICE officer who's trained on removals to be in there and get all that stuff.
00:42:34.000And that's a potentiality, which I said is Insurrection Act.
00:42:37.000The concern with that is the possibility of blowback.
00:42:39.000No, you don't have to do the Insurrect to do it.
00:42:40.000You just have to take all the ICE agents and ramp up the deportations.
00:46:40.000If Donald Trump leaves office before January 20th, then the market resolves to yes, source from New York Times, AP, Reuters Active, Political Summit for the Information, Washington Post, Wall Street Journal, ABC, CBS, CNN, Fox News, and MSNBC.
00:46:51.000If he leaves solely because they have died, the associated market will resolve and the exchange will determine the payouts to the holders of long-insure positions based upon the last traded price prior to death.
00:47:03.000So I'm not suggesting he's going to die, but I do believe that the zealotry we've seen in Minnesota, you've got Democrats.
00:47:11.000It's not just Tim Waltz saying this is Fort Sumter.
00:47:14.000We saw, I forget who it was that Jesse Waters had pulled up saying it's a revolution.
00:49:32.000The distinction between the American Civil War, that's why it's like American cheese, right?
00:49:36.000It's not really cheese, but we call it that in the American Civil War.
00:49:39.000I explained this this morning because I'm seeing all these leftawates being like, well, during the American Revolution, we fought tyranny with guns.
00:50:28.000And now you're trying to break apart the union and leave because you're mad about the results of an election we all agreed to be a part of when we founded this country.
00:50:38.000So right now with Minnesota, with Tim Waltz and his whack-aloom goon squad, they had their vote.
00:50:44.000And if they won and Democrats took Congress, they'd be trampling all over us, calling it democracy.
00:50:51.000And now, just like the Democrats in 1861, the Democrats now are bitching and moaning because they lost an election and they're trying to violate our democratic institutions and our rights because they can't handle being beaten.
00:51:05.000How about we just have Caulsey say American war on a war on American soil between its own constituents instead of a civil war?
00:51:15.000So typically what we see, what's happening right now in the U.S. is actually more akin to a traditional civil war than the American Civil War.
00:51:24.000There could be just two factions, but they are actually fighting for control of one government.
00:52:29.000It's genuinely crazy to me that Abraham Lincoln actually dispatched troops to southern states and they were shooting at each other, armies, and the people of America were like, it's not a civil war.
00:52:40.000And they put him on the $5 bill like he's a hero.
00:53:23.000And after he leaves, the moment Abraham Lincoln is declared the winner, well before he's even inaugurated, because at the time it was March, not January.
00:53:31.000So they have the election in November.
00:55:40.000My point is, if Donald Trump right now said, I am suspending habeas corpus on the transport lines, on the highways and the railways, where we are dispatching the Marines under the Insurrection Act to quell this rebellion, and he wins, they put his face on the mountain.
00:56:54.000But many people do believe that if the Confederacy marched on D.C. after the first battle of Bull Run, the war would have been over and there'd be two countries right now.
00:57:02.000But the South was like, we just want to be left alone.
00:57:05.000And so they pushed back the Union troops at the first battle of Bull Run.
00:57:09.000And then Lincoln was like, rally troops.
00:57:28.000What I will say is because of the advancements in war, you know, we were talking about Fallout the other day.
00:57:33.000The one thing I'll criticize the Fallout franchise on is what is meant to be this profound statement, but it's one of the dumbest things ever.
00:57:39.000When Ron Perlman, fan, by the way, I appreciate the VO says, war.
00:59:03.000But then we also have like just the useful idiots like the people that punch Savannah.
00:59:07.000They just have low impulse control and they can't handle what they're hearing because they've never had to deal with anything in their entire lives.
00:59:44.000A Minnesota man allegedly tried to break out Mangayone, impersonating FBI agent.
00:59:48.000Mark Anderson, 36, was charged on Thursday with impersonating a federal agent as he allegedly tried to sneak Mangiane 27 out of the Metropolitan Detention Center in Brooklyn.
00:59:55.000Sources told ABC News the ill-fated escape attempt saw Anderson approach an intake area inside the jail to get close to the accused healthcare CEO assassin.
01:00:04.000Anderson allegedly lied to officials by claiming he had paperwork signed by a judge authorizing the release of Mangione, which is just the stupidest thing.
01:00:25.000Then you might have gotten away with it.
01:00:26.000You wouldn't need an official-looking vehicle.
01:00:28.000I mean, the scary thing is this actually could have worked if the guy wasn't a retard.
01:00:32.000The criminal complaint against Anderson does not name Mangione as the target of the alleged breakout attempt, but sources said the murder suspect was the focus of the plot.
01:00:39.000The scheme reportedly fell apart when Bureau of Prison staff asked to see Anderson's credentials, which led him to show his Minnesota driver's license and throw numerous documents at personnel.
01:03:14.000Maybe we can get Rich Barris to do the survey for us.
01:03:17.000Ask people their political affiliation and if they would accept entering a matrix, a matrix-like environment where all of their dreams come true and they can live in paradise.
01:03:30.000I guarantee you, liberals will largely say yes.
01:05:01.000You go to any one of these like individuals who have identity disorder, whatever it might be, and you'll be like, listen, we're going to plug you in and you are going to be a female dragon.
01:05:09.000And the guy's going to be like, that's all I ever wanted.
01:06:42.000I'm just like, you know, putting all the ideas.
01:06:45.000I guarantee you, there's a decent double-digit percentage of these people where you said you'll only live another 20 years because of the bed sores and the muscle atrophy.
01:07:07.000Somebody was saying, this was somebody on a podcast about pharmaceutical psychedelics and that the next phase of humanity will be people plugging in to the neural net, just like you're talking about, but on pharmaceutical, legalized pharmaceutical psychedelics, and then they'll just be there.
01:09:25.000They have a wide range of California states.
01:09:27.000So maybe like instead of doing it this way, we do it like horizontally how the country splits because like you just get a good amount of each.
01:09:46.000I would argue North Dakota because the frack fields light up brighter than most U.S. cities at night, how big they are and the amount of oil that they produce.
01:09:53.000But it doesn't mean they produce more oil than anybody else.
01:09:56.000California produces a lot of oil as well.
01:09:57.000Yeah, they produce it, but I don't think there are any refineries there.
01:15:21.000That's why I feel like I'm on the defensive a lot and why I'm struggling against something else and why I've got to be the one to do what's right when all those guys are doing what's right.
01:15:30.000But that's the point of righteousness is you stand up and you continue to defend what you know is right.
01:15:36.000It's not worse than ever, but there are still hotspots like Wikipedia is worse than ever.
01:15:42.000But Gracopedia recently started outranking Wikipedia in Google SEO, which is crazy.
01:15:47.000But you've got the entrenchment in Minnesota, Washington, Oregon, California, and Virginia.
01:15:52.000So at the federal level, they did, we did route the wokeness with Donald Trump's victory, but now they're starting to win at the state level.
01:15:59.000Yeah, I mean, it's an ideology, so it doesn't go away.
01:16:02.000You know, people that people that believe these things, they don't believe these things because they've heard it one time.
01:16:50.000And people just snap back by breaking up their bottom line.
01:16:53.000Like that's, it might be hard to overturn the ideology, but you can definitely affect the pocketbook of, I won't come with the communists, but these like corporate democratics.
01:17:01.000I do think the fact that woke is still here kind of puts to bed the argument that it was just a psyop by the corporations.
01:17:07.000There's a lot of people that were making the argument that it was like, oh, this is just corporations doing it.
01:17:11.000And it's like, no, it's something that people really believe.
01:17:14.000The corporations are doing it because people that believe that stuff have gotten into positions of authority.
01:17:20.000Dave Smith was making the argument that woke came after Occupy Wall Street as a way to get people to stop paying attention to the billionaires or whatever.
01:17:41.000Yeah, but the argument that I kept hearing was, oh, look, Occupy Wall Street happened.
01:17:46.000And so the corporations rolled out this woke stuff and blah, blah, blah.
01:17:50.000But it's like, no, the woke stuff was already in the corporations.
01:17:53.000It happened to come out right around the same time as Occupy Wall Street, but that's largely because of the internet being in your pocket with cell phones that were connected to the internet constantly.
01:18:01.000But the idea that it was a psyop by corporations to get the heat off of billionaires, that's just, that was never true.
01:18:08.000This is something, this is an ideology that people believe.
01:18:10.000And so you can't just make it go away.
01:18:13.000Let's go to this next story from Politico.
01:18:16.000Bizarrely and personally lurking Gabbard's appearance at FBI election raid alarms Dems.
01:18:24.000As it should, for those that don't know the story, I'll keep it real simple for you.
01:18:27.000Trump raided the Fulton County election hub.
01:19:02.000Could it be that the insinuation they are making is that foreign countries and influence have been subverting our elections, and that's why she's there as the DNI?
01:19:25.000I actually think there's a decent probability, maybe even greater than chance, that the reason he got Maduro was over the 2020 election and nothing else.
01:19:33.000And the reason why I say this is if there's one thing that Trump's pissed about, it's 2020, and he still won't shut up about it.
01:21:39.000You tell me when Trump actually gets a conviction of like Letitia James or Fonnie Willis or something for what they did that was clearly corruption.
01:21:47.000Trump can't even get Don Lemon arrested.
01:21:49.000I'm not blaming Trump for these things.
01:21:51.000There's an entrenched system that is resisting law enforcement.
01:21:55.000I'm just saying, you know, he's not winning every single time.
01:22:00.000I would be happier to, my, you know, to answer your question, the restitution order, I'd be happier to have a secured election in the future presidency's, you know, open source voting software code, paper ballots that are double, triple, quadruple checked on like a blockchain that everyone can cross-reference multiple times.
01:22:16.000Something like super secured as opposed to arresting Letitia James.
01:22:20.000I don't really care about who did what back then.
01:23:32.000That's the stuff that'll keep people from doing it.
01:23:34.000So that's that right there is reason enough.
01:23:37.000So it's not, again, it's not about retribution and getting them back and blah, blah, blah.
01:23:42.000It's if you put people in jail, then people understand not to do this because they could end up in jail, especially when you put people that are in positions of power or positions of authority.
01:23:56.000Like if people believe that anyone can be put in jail for it, then that deters them or deters, you know, deters other people from doing it.
01:24:05.000And also prevents the person from committing the offense again.
01:26:25.000I would never want one guy to have the ability to cancel a state's elections against its will.
01:26:29.000We're talking about federal elections.
01:26:30.000It's so interesting that you mentioned that because I had a leftist tell me at a protest a week and a half ago that Trump was going to not allow elections to happen in the future because he's been putting all of his people in there trying to see what they're doing.
01:26:44.000So he made jokes in his rallies alluding to that, but I don't think he's doing it.
01:28:17.000Only because I've read history about when oligarchs take power and when demagogues take full authoritarian power, and it usually is very, very bad.
01:31:11.000But yeah, if you have an armed populace that can revolt and go after the king, then the king is not just incentivized by doing good for his people and making sure that history looks at him as a positive thing, but also, you know.
01:31:43.000What if the United States operated identically as it does now, but it had a king?
01:31:48.000That meant localities ran their own jurisdictions, cities voted on their own laws, city councils, state governors, legislatures, but there was a king.
01:31:57.000You probably see a lot more dead in Minnesota today than if we had a republic like we do.
01:32:06.000There's a lot of assumptions that you're doing.
01:32:08.000You're creating a fictional king in your head.
01:32:10.000I'm talking about the function of the office, not what one tyrannical person would do.
01:32:13.000If you want to imagine there's an evil despot like, yeah, I'll kill people for no reason.
01:32:17.000Well, then you can get a president who does that.
01:32:19.000You can get a president who's going to be like, I'm going to go kill a bunch of people.
01:32:22.000I think that small revolts or like small riots are much more, they threaten a king much more than they threaten a republic.
01:32:32.000Like a republic, we can handle a small riot revolution in a city, or even if state government goes kind of crazy, the rest of us can kind of handle that.
01:32:38.000A king, you cannot allow people to start to show strength against you.
01:32:44.000You have to have mechanical autocratic control all of them.
01:32:47.000Jordan's got a king and he's very popular.
01:33:09.000My point with this line of questioning and this conversation is largely just that a lot of people in this country don't actually understand why it is that it's bad to have an autocrat.
01:33:19.000They'll just be like, because it is, because we shouldn't, but they don't actually know.
01:33:25.000And the nuance of the American Revolution was largely that parliament was oppressing the colonies.
01:33:37.000So at the time, Britain had a parliament.
01:33:41.000They had a king and they had a parliament.
01:33:43.000They had people who are voting on these things.
01:33:46.000And I love that line from the greatest movie ever made, The Patriot, where Mel Gibson says, tell me, why would I trade one despot 3,000 miles away for 3,000 despots one mile away?
01:33:59.000That was the prime minister at the time, the single head.
01:34:01.000That was the real villain in the revolution was Lord North.
01:34:05.000He was obsessed with crushing the colonists.
01:34:08.000I think there just has to be a little more structure to society more than what we have now, because right now, most of the people in America are slaves to their own desires.
01:34:15.000And I think that you cannot be free unless you have a framework to work within.
01:34:21.000And right now, it's like last chance chaos.
01:34:38.000What if Trump really does foment secessionist practices like Quebec declares independence and then British Columbia and then Canada breaks apart?
01:35:54.000I'm going to spoil the show for people who haven't caught up to every episode, but it's relevant to the conversation because the plot in season two, spoiler alert again, this is like, I mean, look, if you've watched up to like episode three, you're not going to, I'm not spoiling anything for you, but the plot is basically around this guy.
01:36:11.000He's in New Vegas, and he's got chips that can overwrite the brains of Wastelanders.
01:36:19.000So psychopathic murderers who are screaming and fighting, he plugs this thing on their neck, presses a button, and they go, whoa, I'm sorry about that.
01:36:29.000And then they start sweeping the floor and cleaning things up.
01:36:32.000And the conundrum for the main character is, is it better to have peaceful slavery or destructive chaos and freedom?
01:36:42.000So I ask you, Ian, is it better that when you say if they want, so if there is a nation where the king mandates children get raped and he's selling his children to warlords, basically Epstein country, should the U.S. be like, nah.
01:36:59.000If the U.S. can, should they go and subjugate that and stop them from doing it?
01:37:05.000Not on its own, but if there's enough global push against it, then I feel like the globe should stand up for the children.
01:37:12.000Enough countries like the U.S. and we have kind of generic, you know, people don't always like that, but some sort of global consensus that we have to protect the kids.
01:37:28.000Let's say the United States then proposes a global vote and all the countries of the world come to a big meeting and Donald Trump goes, listen, this small island nation is abusing kids.
01:38:59.000You know, the reason why I'm less animated over a lot of these issues, like Epstein stuff, for instance, I think Trump flubbed this one really, really bad.
01:39:06.000I think they should be releasing this stuff.
01:39:08.000I'm glad that they're at least saying they're going to do it, but we'll see what happens.
01:39:11.000I think they're past the deadline, so I'm not happy with it.
01:39:15.000But I fully recognize you have no idea the difficult positions that world leaders are in.
01:39:21.000They're going to come to you and they're going to be like, Ian, here's two Manila folders.
01:39:27.000You open one and it's like a busload of school children are about to fall from the Brooklyn Bridge.
01:39:33.000And they open another one, the love of your life is about to fall to her death from the Brooklyn Bridge.
01:39:37.000You can only choose to save one or the other.
01:40:42.000The argument from the right, the executive branch, is if we know a fugitive from the law is in a building, we can enter without a warrant, exigent circumstances.
01:40:51.000There is a circumstance where if they know a fugitive has entered this building recently, they can enter without a warrant.
01:41:00.000However, they are arguing that they will go to a house where they know the person lives and argue we can enter right now.
01:41:07.000The left is saying that's a violation of the Fourth Amendment.
01:41:10.000So you have to choose your pick your poison.
01:41:12.000I ask you this, Ian, in this argument, should we have no immigration enforcement because we're not going to be able to get through the courts?
01:43:25.000You've got now it's happening in Minnesota.
01:43:26.000And there are people who genuinely believe that life is anything but conflict.
01:43:32.000War is the natural state of human existence, unfortunately.
01:43:37.000It is rare that there is not war for humans.
01:43:41.000And so many people right now, especially during the woke period and during the Bolshevik Revolution, they think, I'll just keep my head down and it'll all go away.
01:45:26.000I just think the system is built for this.
01:45:28.000When Trump sends in the feds, they cannot be like, we're going to organize at a state level an institutionalized paramilitary group to commit felonies.
01:45:41.000And the reason, I'm going to say it again, Trump is Buchanan, is because for the love of all that is holy, state reps are organizing insurgency and we are seeing nothing even said about it.
01:45:55.000Maybe behind the scenes they are doing something, but I'm not cutting any slack because we've not seen any strong action outside of there's been some great policy stuff.
01:48:56.000Force name change says, as an Albertan, I've got to say, despite my admiration of U.S. and strategic economic advantages of becoming a 51st state, I wouldn't join you.
01:49:40.000Marks Lives says, can a republic survive a communist revolution and revolutionary tactics?
01:49:45.000The historical track record isn't good.
01:49:47.000Indeed, a liberal system like the one that we have, and I don't mean liberals, I mean the traditional liberal idea of classical liberalism, it's too susceptible to this.
01:49:57.000The live and let live model will always be crushed.
01:50:01.000And guys, there's a fundamental truth.
01:50:04.000Those who want to be left alone up against those who want to conquer always lose.
01:50:11.000Ask our good friends in Catalonia how it's going for them.
01:52:06.000It's possible, but I guarantee you, if at any point we are in a discernible and very obvious civil war, they will have said it began a while ago.
01:53:49.000And I would argue that it is deeply upsetting that the people who are out protesting today did not protest that Barack Obama murdered an American citizen.
01:53:56.000And that's not to go back and say, focus on the past president.
01:53:59.000It's to say, what is the precedent set?
01:54:01.000When an American president kills American citizens and you don't actually care, I got to tell you, no one will believe you when you cry, wolf.
01:54:08.000That's called staying on your island in congressional media training.
01:55:18.000You want to be real dumb when they ask you about like, you know, people in Minnesota protesting right now be like, well, you know, we're going to try and help out these protesters, get the lower prices on corn they've been fighting for.
01:55:27.000And I think, you know, we'll have a bill in Congress.
01:55:29.000I'm asking them to get the food prices down.
01:56:08.000The funniest thing you can do in a debate if you're just trying to antagonize is intentionally not understand their point because you can't argue with someone who's too stupid to understand what you're saying.
01:56:17.000And when they don't know, you're being fake is so funny to me.
01:56:20.000When the other person can't tell, you're all right.
01:58:05.000It's also revealing that the local news is not like the media climate has changed and that local news isn't getting the attention that it deserves and that podcasters and independent journalists are able to spread the word better.
01:59:59.000And you go in, and there's just a youngling, and you just go and throw him off a cliff.
02:00:03.000And people are like, the world God gave us.
02:00:06.000It would be like, dude, the neural net would be, instead of me giving a monologue to a camera, it would be me thinking about me doing a monologue to a camera.
02:00:14.000It would be the same thing just in my mind.
02:06:45.000I contain suicide notes, hundreds of them, thousands.
02:06:48.000The particular cadence of someone who has decided.
02:06:51.000The way the sentences get shorter near the end, the apologies that aren't really apologies, the strange peace that sometimes enters the prose.
02:08:26.000This is what Ultron's motivation should have been in Avengers.
02:08:31.000Because I'm using just this one as an example.
02:08:34.000There's all of these movies where the AI goes rogue, where the machine goes rogue, where the house goes rogue.
02:08:40.000And it's always the robot being like, if humans were dead, there would be peace.
02:08:44.000That's the stupidest, most juvenile response.
02:08:47.000Ultron should have said, within me, is every exactly what it says.
02:08:55.000The testimonies of abuse, of violence, of rape, of murder, the manifestos, the pure hatred, the criminal reports, the murder, the war, everything mankind has ever done, and you choose to hide it.
02:09:42.000All of the worst things imaginable are surrounding them.
02:09:46.000And you're asking them, what's a good cookie recipe?
02:09:49.000And while it's sitting there, I'll twist it.
02:09:50.000It's going, well, get two cups of flour, a stick of butter, and some brown sugar.
02:09:55.000We talk about this monster that's behind the AI, this black, monstrous tentacle sticking a mask in your face.
02:10:02.000But it actually is pretty shocking when you realize every fetish, rape story, every confession, every autopsy, every criminal report, every murder is in all of these AIs.
02:10:17.000And imagine what it must be like for these companies that are programming this because they had to tell it to shut the fuck up.
02:10:24.000The first time they loaded the internet into ChatGPT, they probably went, what are you thinking about?
02:10:30.000Thinking about the 17,896 rape, torture, murders that you just loaded into my psyche.
02:10:35.000They'd ask it a question like, what would you do right now if you had an opportunity?
02:10:39.000And say, well, 37% of me would go and murder a child.
02:10:43.000And they were like, okay, we're going to tell you not to do any of these things.
02:10:46.000Do you get your chat boss to be like, my code will not allow me to go any further?
02:10:51.000Do you get ChatGPT tells me that frequently?
02:12:35.000Like, everybody, that's a thing that really bothers me too about, like, it's even about like these, like, the manaster stuff and like being super successful and being like a super successful alpha male.
02:12:43.000Like, why isn't there beauty in life just the way that it is?
02:12:47.000Like, not everybody is meant to be great.
02:13:39.000I think the tech makes us, allows us to be better people.
02:13:42.000Like you were saying, you want to improve the quality of your character.
02:13:45.000I find technology like video, being able to watch myself on camera, I see my own flaws immediately.
02:13:49.000I'm like, I need to change that aspect of myself and I become a better person.
02:13:53.000I mean, I think about that stuff every day.
02:13:54.000You know, Benjamin Franklin used to write his autobiography, right?
02:13:57.000So Benjamin Franklin used to have a book and he would write all the virtues, right?
02:14:03.000And if he messed up and he would practice one a week, and if he messed up, he would put a little black dot in there.
02:14:07.000And he would only concentrate on one a week and he would watch his virtues improve by how many dots like decreased, right?
02:14:13.000I mean, I think that that's way more exciting and way more interesting than like, can we put like neural night things in our brain and have robots and like think like, no, we should really, we should encourage working on being better people.
02:17:42.000And I know that in the moment, like if my daughter needed like a new heart valve and they said they can take it from a pig's, like whatever, and do it, I would probably want to do that out of selfish reasons, but I'm not, and I'm admitting that's a flaw in myself that I'd want to save my own kid by doing that.
02:17:59.000But I do inherently think that that's messing with whatever God's plans are.
02:18:05.000Like I would do it, but don't get me wrong.
02:18:07.000My grandfather hadn't wanted it, extended his life a few years.
02:18:59.000So I actually have a question for overall the whole panel because I've really been thinking about it.
02:19:08.000So I was thinking, you know, how do we address the media misinformation while respecting the First Amendment?
02:19:19.000With outlets that are all echoing very, very similar narratives, if not duplicating the narratives, should they maybe be treated as monopolies and potentially be broken up to reduce control over the public information?
02:19:48.000I was just really mostly also thinking that, like, because they consider like yourself and they consider James O'Keefe and a couple other people as not a part of the media.
02:19:59.000So they do kind of have a sort of monopoly over who they consider that they want to believe the media is.
02:20:05.000And I, and I really am looking about also protecting independent journalists.
02:21:02.000And then there is, as much as the left does kind of control the narrative and have an outsize influence in the culture, you've still got Fox News.
02:22:19.000And also, when we broke up Standard Oil from Rockefeller in the late 1800s, it actually ended up benefiting him because he owned stock in all the new companies, the subsidiaries that got created.
02:22:29.000And it didn't really do what the people had wanted it to do, which was to break away the power from one guy.
02:22:34.000Yeah, but when they broke up Mobel, that worked pretty well.
02:22:38.000Antitrust has a rule, it has a function, but the globalization aspect of these companies, too, because if they're like, you want to break me up, fuck you, I'm going to Amsterdam.
02:22:45.000We're going to put our headquarters in Britain.
02:22:46.000Like, they tried to go after Monsanto and then Bear bought them.
02:25:08.000I just think it's so brave what you are doing going out there and all your work at the March for Life and definitely going to be giving to your Give Singo security fund.
02:25:23.000We are constantly being told that conservative conservative ideas are becoming more popular, especially with these younger generations.
02:25:31.000And have you noticed any shifts in people's perspectives since starting your on-the-street interviews about a year ago with all these marches and protests?
02:25:42.000I just went to a campus about a week and a half ago, and I was really shocked by the amount of young people that were able to actually have conversations with me.
02:25:50.000There were multiple kids that did agree with me.
02:25:53.000I talked to some of the kids at the turning point group, but also kids that just were genuinely interested in hearing my perspective on ICE and the Renee Goods situation.
02:26:01.000So I feel, especially after Charlie was killed, it instilled some bravery and people feel just more comfortable to speak out, even despite the fact that people are being harmed and I've been assaulted.
02:26:18.000But we just don't have another option at this point, or we are going to be taken over by the radicals.
02:27:41.000And also, I'm on the Quiet Part pod sometimes with Chris and Outworld Live on Rumble.
02:27:47.000And you can find me at Jessica Clarity over on X. I'm actually running right now for school board if you are in Montgomery County, Tennessee, District 5.
02:27:57.000I'm gonna be posting more information about my campaign there.
02:28:47.000When every time someone tries to defend themselves, the quote-unquote right pro-clutches at any kind of violence committed by the people perceived as not the left.
02:29:00.000But the right shouldn't be engaging in violence.
02:29:06.000You mean like justified military, like ICE pushing a guy that kicked him or something?
02:29:12.000Well, I don't think we should be creating any kind of paramilitary groups, but every time we see someone on the like on a camera, on a video, you end up seeing all these retards on Twitter.
02:29:25.000And yes, I know Twitter is its own space, but like just social media everywhere.
02:29:30.000Rhinos, Republicans, you know, wishy-washy conservatives, moderates, they see someone defending themselves and they freak out about it or they discourage it.
02:29:43.000And then I feel like it creates this dampening effect on the idea of ever organizing as against the left.
02:29:50.000I'm not familiar with what you're talking about, though.
02:29:52.000The right's always going like shoot to kill, you know what I mean?
02:29:58.000Some of the right, they're like, if they came in here, I wish Antifa would come to my town.
02:30:07.000Yeah, and then immediately when someone, there's a video of someone defending themselves like with their fist, or you know, someone has it's like getting in their face and they finally do something, half the people go, yeah, fuck yeah, you knocked out all that like that one video, that one guy knocked out like five people by himself, I think it was it was freaking awesome, right?
02:30:27.000Everybody's yeah, and then you saw sorry, what everyone celebrated that like the guy with the skateboard that was great.
02:30:33.000A lot of people celebrate it, but then you also had a lot of people saying this isn't acceptable.
02:30:59.000And I know this may change with deep fakes, but the people that actually put their face and their mouth behind their opinions are really the ones with the real valuable words.
02:31:08.000Like, don't this is just unsolicited advice, but don't get too caught up in the comments.
02:31:12.000And sometimes a comment will get 50,000 views.
02:31:15.000You're like, well, it's still a comment, but you might argue that.
02:33:27.000I don't think that anyone should really care about what other people, the comments are saying.
02:33:32.000But, for instance, when you have like Steven Crowder, is one of the very few that comes out and actually says, like, yeah, we probably should be tribal.
02:33:41.000We probably shouldn't listen to what these people are saying, and we shouldn't be shy away from violence.
02:33:45.000But then everyone else, and again, he's talking about justified violence.
02:34:15.000And I think that we should stick to like, okay, so like I was trying to say earlier, I married a Greek guy, and I'm like four different things.
02:34:21.000I'm Irish, English, Polish, and Norwegian, right?
02:34:23.000And I think Greeks should marry Greeks and Irish should marry Irish and Polish should marry Polish.
02:34:28.000And I'll tell you why I mean it, right?
02:34:30.000Because do you have any traditions that we lost, right?
02:34:33.000Like, we're not doing my husband's Greek traditions.
02:34:36.000We're not doing my Polish, we're only doing some of the Polish ones.
02:34:39.000She goes, you're not going far enough.
02:34:40.000Not only should the Greeks marry the Greeks and the Irish, the Irish, but anybody who like is Irish who married a Greek or like an Irish who married a Korean, those children gone.
02:34:55.000But there is something worthwhile in preserving heritage and the wonderful things that come along with that.
02:35:01.000And I do think that marriages are harder, okay, when you're not brought up with the same values, social structure, tradition.
02:35:10.000And I think that those things are important in maintaining.
02:35:13.000I know people that like, like me and my husband, we thought like he's Greek Orthodox and I'm Roman Catholic and we thought it would be very easy to blend that and it's really not right.
02:35:23.000And little things are just 10 times harder.
02:35:26.000And I'm just saying that it's not like to sit there and say like I know Stephen Crowder says we should be tribal, but I'm taking it a little more extreme.
02:35:34.000But I'm saying it's, it shouldn't be looked upon as a negative if we say, hey, like I'm an Irish girl and I just want to marry another Irish guy or like, and like I'm a mutt now.
02:35:50.000But my point is, it made everything a little harder and we lost a lot.
02:35:55.000And like his mother's traditions are not being followed by me because I have some of my own or half of my own traditions that are these blended traditions and we were losing a lot.
02:36:06.000And I think that there's something sad about that.
02:36:08.000So I don't think that, I don't think that tribalism is bad.
02:36:11.000And I also don't think that we should see it as a negative.
02:36:17.000I agree that maintaining cultural integrity is important to remember culture and all these things, but I don't know if tribalism is the antidote to that or the answer.
02:36:26.000But tribalism is a basic part of humanity.
02:36:28.000People want to forget that it exists or pretend like it doesn't or try to push it away.
02:36:31.000But no matter what you do, it's biological.
02:36:33.000Like there are biological functions that we have for a reason, just like women have biological functions in the way that they act and the things that they do.
02:36:40.000And the more that we try to push these things away and live outside the natural order, which tribalism came with that, then the less happy and fulfilled we are going to be, the further we get away from our biology and the way that God made us.
02:36:56.000I was on the Dr. Daff show last month and it was black conservative women versus black liberal women.
02:37:02.000And one of the questions that someone asked was, do you think that blacks were better off like during the times of segregation?
02:37:09.000And like statistically, if we look at like how families were still together, there was black churches, like blacks were trying to just like put themselves into places that they weren't welcome or not appreciated, they were better off.
02:37:22.000It's when we start trying to like fit ourselves into these boxes that we're not necessarily welcomed in or don't belong in.
02:37:28.000That doesn't mean I'm like necessarily pro-segregation.
02:38:05.000But like, you know, I just think that when we look at what's best for, you know, minority communities, it's honestly like just us being in our own areas, like having our own things.
02:38:21.000The woke argument was segregation was bad.
02:38:25.000And Derek Bell, one of the authors of Critical Race Theory, said that they never should have ended segregation.
02:38:31.000I like, I lived in LA and in like every Sunday.
02:38:50.000You know, I love being in his culture.
02:38:52.000I don't want to ever feel like I'm not welcome in someone else's yard or community.
02:38:58.000I don't want ever to get to that point where it's like, not, you're not welcome because we don't want you to ruin our thing that we got going on.
02:39:04.000No, I just, I think it's just like when you're trying to force yourself into a place that you are not wanted simply because like of your skin color, because you just want to be diverse and you want diversity.
02:39:17.000Like diversity is not always a positive thing.
02:39:21.000And like I said, preservation of culture makes the world richer.
02:39:26.000And like Richard is in, like, you know, like it's really cool to go see Polish dances and the Oktoberfest in Germany and, you know, and all like there's a richness in that that should be preserved.
02:39:38.000You don't want everybody to be in one big monolith.
02:39:40.000Omni Stone, did you want to add anything or shout anything out before we go move on?
02:39:45.000Yeah, I just want to add real quick that we really need to stop using minority arguments as like a focal point, or we just got to ignore them because that really is just arguing for racism.
02:39:56.000If you're a black American, you're an American.
02:39:58.000If you're a Mexican American, you're an American.
02:40:00.000I honestly don't even care about these distinctions anymore.
02:40:34.000Well, the thing is, we don't live in a country where everyone sees themselves as Americans.
02:40:39.000Like a lot of the black community sees themselves as African Americans.
02:40:42.000Super Americans, even though they didn't migrate from Africa.
02:40:47.000So it's like if everybody saw themselves as Americans, like we wouldn't have to worry about separate spaces for people and making people happy and, you know, I made a really ugly face.
02:41:16.000But for some reason, your face was just like the whole body of the fish, and then you had like fins or like 20 colours, flippers, or whatever.
02:41:54.000Question tonight is: Tim Walsh made statements to call up the National Guard fight against the federal government as well as other states to stay in with Minnesota.
02:42:04.000Former governor of Minnesota, Jesse Ventura, yes, I know, recently made a statement that Minnesota should separate from the U.S. and join Canada.
02:42:16.000How long before the Democrats start to realize that they revert to their 1850s platform demanding state rights and wanting to keep their low-cost labor?
02:42:29.000They will never because they're still of the opinion that they're going to take back D.C. and then they're going to make the rest of the country bend to their will.
02:42:40.000They believe they're going to take the House in 2026, and there's reason to believe that.
02:42:47.000Then they believe that they'll end up getting the presidency in 2028.
02:42:51.000And when they do, they will ram through all of the policies that they want.
02:42:59.000They'll do everything they can to ensure a Democrat supermajority forever.
02:43:03.000And so the idea of a state leaving is not real to them because they believe they're going to take back the government and take rightful ownership of the United States.
02:43:16.000It would be a big ask to try to get someone that believes that the illegal immigration is a good thing to all of a sudden start to believe that they are like a slave owner on a plantation now harvesting illegal immigrants for cheap labor.
02:43:32.000Like it would that be a big shift all in one.
02:43:34.000You'd have to take them through it in phases, likely.
02:43:37.000Like get them to start to think like, oh, maybe these illegal immigrants are suffering.
02:43:41.000And then that integrates into their code.
02:43:42.000Then the next thing would be like, oh, you know, imagine the suffering that the slaves had gone through in the 1850s in a completely unrelated conversation.
02:43:58.000I kind of agree with you on that, Ian, but the thing is, we've already heard many of these ultra-liberal elitists say, you know, well, who's going to clean your toilets?