Dave Landau joins us in studio to talk about the possibility that the show might be coming to an end, and why he thinks it s time to say goodbye. Timestamps: 6:00 - What's next for the show? 11:35 - Why it might be over 13:30 - What the heck is going on with the show 16:40 - Is this the end of the road for The Office?
00:01:08.000And Raymond was also here too, and I figured for what the conversation is going to be, because this is not going to be a news show, I figured it'd be good if you hung out because you started as just like a fan of the show, and you super chatted every day, and then you came to work here.
00:01:22.000And there's a handful of people here who are like that.
00:01:31.000And then no disrespect to Hannah Clare, who was here, but I really didn't want to do a show, so I just said it probably would be better if you weren't on the show tonight, and so apologies to Hannah Clare, because she does a good job.
00:01:40.000But yeah, I think this might be the end.
00:02:28.000That builds up over time, which adds more and more workload to, you know, me and Allison to get to the point where we're just like, can't do it.
00:03:14.000Like, we're not worried that if we have a bad month, people are going to get fired or anything's going to shut down like that.
00:03:19.000And that's why I'm always like, we need members so that we can try and make new things and grow and do bookings and make things good and better and all that stuff.
00:03:29.000And, you know, just the problem is, even with all of that, Without a proper CEO who isn't hosting the show, it's not possible.
00:03:42.000Yeah, you have to have somebody to go to that's not you.
00:04:09.000We can get rid of the external projects...
00:04:14.000And that's a lot of people that are part of the crew and everybody loves.
00:04:18.000And the challenge thing is when we go through this and we're like, maybe we need to, you know, we want to increase the buffer, we want to increase marketing.
00:04:51.000And so, you know, the conversations I've had with family is like, I am under no illusions that I have the capability to make this company what it could be.
00:05:32.000And, you know, my attitude with that is kind of just like...
00:05:39.000If we can't make cameras and a computer work, and despite all the previous failures we've had, there's not a single person here who can make sure that either the studio is operating or secondary studio is operating.
00:05:54.000We've gotten to a point in the company where everyone's kind of just kicked their feet up and said, I'm doing what I need to be doing.
00:05:59.000And then that just means I'm Sisyphus pushing the rock up.
00:06:03.000The problem is people are sitting on the rock.
00:06:27.000So you've got to give yourself credit for that, so why get rid of it?
00:06:30.000I mean, you wanted to complain on the internet, you did it.
00:06:32.000I mean, you started by going out to protest, right?
00:06:35.000Yeah, well, I mean, depends on where you say it all begins.
00:06:38.000Like, I was making skate videos on YouTube, and then that turned into, after like five skate videos, filming by Wall Street, which turned into live streaming, which turned into working for Vice, working for Fusion, and then starting my own company, and then transforming that slowly into a podcast.
00:07:08.000So for four years, we've been trying to do a show that is built around, we have this awesome property, we have skate parks, we have Willy Wonka's Candy Factory or whatever, Chocolate Factory.
00:07:20.000Why can't we get people to just do something?
00:07:25.000Because if you haven't earned it, you're not as thirsty for it.
00:07:36.000So it's like, it's not anything that I didn't make obvious.
00:07:39.000But at the same time, you do have to be hungry for your own thing, because then I hire friends, and then those friends don't do anything for a year.
00:07:47.000And you're like, oh, that's why this person didn't like you.
00:07:54.000You know what I think, too, is I've been hearing this a lot from a lot of different people who are working small to large companies, and I'm not going to drag their personal business into the public or anything.
00:08:04.000No, and I've regretted doing that in the past.
00:08:06.000I'm hearing a lot about how there's a talent and management crisis right now.
00:08:10.000And the example that I've given, because I have no connection to it whatsoever, is Charlestown Races, where they used to have this awesome restaurant that overlooks the horse track and the horses.
00:08:20.000Every Thursday, Friday, Saturday, you just watch the horses run and order food and hang out.
00:08:24.000And they don't have the restaurant anymore, only on special occasions, rarely.
00:08:28.000I don't know how often they do it, but almost never.
00:08:30.000And they told me, I asked them why the restaurant shut down.
00:08:33.000It's because after COVID hit, everybody who worked there retired or quit.
00:09:56.000But it's more about like the, wow, what if I finished work at a normal time like everybody else and just, I don't know, hopped in the car and went down to the river and looked at frogs?
00:10:06.000Yeah, it's the things you miss out on, really, because I can experience that.
00:10:09.000But I'm willing to work my fingers to the bone to make something happen.
00:10:37.000If I show up in the morning and I do my morning show, I get to give a portion of the work that I do to them so that they can try and make something work.
00:10:46.000And I know they're trying as hard as they can and some more successful than others, but it just becomes too burdensome to the point where unless they get off the ground and are able to maintain and manage themselves and make money, we can't do it anymore.
00:11:01.000So that isn't necessarily the bearing on this show.
00:11:05.000The bearing on this show is there's a degree of staff required to run a show like this and it's, yeah, it's, I don't know.
00:11:16.000You can't lose power and then lose your show.
00:11:35.000Am I going to work 16 hours every single day to the bone and figuratively say I get no weekday sunsets so that someone else can be like, I ain't going to fix it.
00:11:45.000Well, if you want to die of a heart attack very young, it's a good way to do it.
00:11:49.000I'd be bored if I wasn't doing something.
00:14:36.000So I can eat breakfast, get ready, come in, and then try and figure out how to get the show done.
00:14:41.000As of recent, because we want to do culture war, that means if I'm going to balance family and these shows and have the show be effective without dwindling into obscurity, I can't do four shows a week.
00:14:57.000Everybody's got content every single day of the week, so that means I need to do at least five days and then record extra content for the weekends so that I can have a persistent presence on the platform.
00:16:40.000Yeah, but so there is something I can do.
00:16:42.000If I set up my own studio for my morning show and I can make sure it works and I can have, you know, youtube.com slash Timcast News, there will never be a failure ever again.
00:20:11.000And then I saw a bunch of people being like, he pre-screened all the people who were getting food, and I'm like, yeah, because there's someone who gets shot.
00:20:50.000I feel like you want to do it, but you don't want to do it.
00:20:52.000No, I want to come in, in the morning, and complain.
00:20:55.000And I mean complain in a somewhat self-deprecating way.
00:20:58.000What I mean is, there are things that I think people should be aware of, and I also want to express how I feel about the current goings-on.
00:21:06.000And it's, a lot of people like watching it.
00:21:09.000So, I think, you know, the only reason, the reason I say this may be the last episode, is that I have a bit of guilt of like, The people who really are accustomed to and feel they need and that the world benefits from us doing the show?
00:21:44.000The reason why it's called In Real Life is because I do my morning show, and then I was like, I can do my morning show from the road.
00:21:49.000So I went on Joe Rogan's show, and I told them all, you're nuts, I'm going to build a van and go live down by the river, and I was only half kidding.
00:22:35.000And someone told me, like, they're going to explode.
00:22:36.000And I was like, okay, I better upgrade them.
00:22:38.000But the original idea for In Real Life was after I finished the morning show, if I just go drive somewhere, I can set up and say, morning show done.
00:24:12.000There is some reality that I think I've talked about before, though, but I used to get on youtube.com slash timcast the 4pm video, a single half an hour video, would get anywhere from 300,000 to 500,000 views.
00:24:26.000Your 4pm's my favorite back in the day.
00:25:25.000It's like, if the people are going to watch the show every night anyway, then they don't need a notification.
00:25:29.000Yeah, ours is both where, yeah, you follow that algorithm, but then it doesn't know if you want to be a long show or a short show, and you can't figure out any of it.
00:26:47.000But, you know, so anyway, it's like, it comes to a point where it's like, now I'm working 16 hours a day for a diminishing return.
00:26:54.000Whereas before, I could have been getting 60, 70 million just up doing a morning show, being done with work by 4 p.m., being able to do family stuff, plan investments, maybe work on skateboard videos.
00:27:07.000And so IRL is basically a diminishing return where now there's just 15 Tim Pool videos going up every single day and only so many Tim Pool fans.
00:27:15.000So it's like if I consolidated it down, would we get 40% of the IRL viewership to just watch the morning show again and is IRL just cannibalizing?
00:27:51.000And I'll tell you, like, the problem I have with it is I think...
00:27:59.000I don't want to throw anyone under the bus, but I just don't think anybody cares.
00:28:02.000When I say that I had to write a check for 30 grand because someone here fucked up, and then it's just like, keep calm and carry on, not my fault.
00:28:11.000And I'm like, yo, I'm paying myself less than my morning show makes.
00:28:19.000If I just did my morning show, I'm putting more money in my pocket.
00:28:41.000So the reason I say it may be the last is we had a conversation today, Allison and I, about what's the most effective means of managing the issue.
00:28:51.000And it's, okay, maybe what we do is we end 70%.
00:28:55.000We would keep Tim Kest IRL, a skeleton crew to have it operate, the morning show, and the boonies.
00:29:05.000We'd have one single secondary investment outside of the shows, and that would allow me more time to be hands-on to make sure that it operates properly.
00:29:14.000But that's more so just like, yeah, but...
00:29:18.000Doing that is still trying to justify why we have to keep working as hard as possible.
00:29:22.000Is your property more for your crew or because it's something you wanted?
00:29:27.000Like doing the Freedamistan boonies show?
00:33:09.000I'm like, I'm telling you, when China says we want to win and we don't give a crap what you're wearing, they're going to force their team to put on onesies because it's beneficial.
00:33:18.000Yeah, people jam hot dogs down their throat for competition.
00:33:21.000Skateboarding still has a fighting chance.
00:35:43.000So to bring us all the way back, because we're on a tangent, that's why I wanted to do Cast Castle, Free Damestan, the boonies, is to build culture, and it's like, damn, I'm just kind of like, after four years, maybe we just can't do it.
00:35:56.000No amount of money is going to make it possible.
00:35:58.000If you don't have the people who want to do it and nobody wants to do it, I feel like the reality is just skateboarding is dead.
00:36:04.000You need that person who every day wakes up and says, I just want to go film a video.
00:36:32.000For the shows that we've launched, obviously before we launched them, we reached out to other people who are already doing shows and said, hey, we could invest in this and help you grow it.
00:36:40.000And then the deal we would work is kind of like a record label deal.
00:36:42.000Like we'll get a small percentage, but you control everything and we'll advertise it for you.
00:37:08.000And I mean, I was talking about this a long time ago when I was talking, two years ago, I was talking, the Daily Wire made a pitch like, hey, and I'm like, I got a company with 20 employees and we make eight figures.
00:37:33.000But in terms of, like, the people that I negotiated with, I'm like, maybe it's just they have scruples and they believe in something else beyond them.
00:38:43.000I was surprised how many people liked it, because that was my own nerves, but still...
00:38:46.000Like, I don't think we're putting out stuff that's necessarily relatable on the right, and we're putting out stuff that people are dying to see.
00:38:56.000If we actually want to rival with something like Disney, I mean, I think you have to put forward actual stories people want to watch without agenda.
00:39:03.000And I think the problem is there's always an agenda.
00:39:06.000The opportunity, that's why I think M.I. Racist, I think M.I. Racist did well, and my praise for it is because.
00:39:29.000There's a scene where Matt is serving these anti-racists and he's trying to put butter on their plate and she's pushing him away to not do it and he just reaches over and does it anyway.
00:39:57.000I think if you're just being yourself and you're putting that out there, that's a lot more quality because everything else operating out of that side is agenda-driven.
00:40:03.000It's ridiculous how bad stuff has become.
00:41:01.000So anyway, you know, my mentality right now is like, if I were to do my morning show, and then either for like the members that want to stick around, do like a 1pm to 2pm members hangout where we do like the members only show Q&A. Not only that, but if I did the morning show, and then depending on how I want to run it, setting a time...
00:41:25.000So if I recorded a handful of segments early in the morning, and then from like 1 to 2 did some kind of interview show like IRL, which was much simpler, and then record a couple more segments, I could be done by 4 and not going to bed at 11.
00:41:38.000So the schedule for IRL also makes it very difficult.
00:41:41.000The other challenges that we have is travel, booking, like the morning show doesn't have any of these requirements, and we don't do Zoom, and Zoom is not good.
00:41:56.000Yeah, it's going to suck when that takes over, but it will because this is a component of automation where it's like, it's not literal automation, but if you go to a business and you say, we're going to do a show with these really great in-person conversations, it's going to cost us X amount per year.
00:42:12.000Then someone else says, ah, I'll do the same show with the same guests, but zero travel and accommodation costs, no ancillary staff for accommodating guests because we'll do it digitally.
00:42:22.000I tell you every time what the business is going to choose.
00:42:27.000But the problem is when you put two businesses to compete with each other and one tries to be in person and one is digital, digital will win every time.
00:43:10.000I'll just, we'll have the cameras give out and then I'll do all the voices and I'll be like, Trump and Jordan Peterson are here right now with me.
00:45:49.000But hearing you as myself, who's, you know, I used to super chat in like, Tim, you want to put a fucking TV? I already swore, it's whatever.
00:45:57.000You want to put up a TV? I'll come down because I'm only two hours away.
00:47:52.000I don't know how the structure here works exactly.
00:47:54.000That's, you know, the issue then becomes the...
00:47:58.000So usually what happens for most companies like this is they'll take on strategic investment and then a guy in a suit shows up and that's exactly what we're talking about and then everyone says, wow, this company used to be fun.
00:48:09.000And it's like, welcome to the real world.
00:48:12.000We could go that route, I suppose, but...
00:48:46.000Well, especially if you're trying to be a nice guy, you're trying to run a company, then you can get walked on, and then you let one thing slide, you might let another thing slide.
00:48:54.000That's not on you, I do the same thing, and then eventually it snowballs, and then I'm like, okay, this is bad, you know...
00:49:46.000So it's like, at a certain level, there's a person who's your boss...
00:49:52.000But they know that there's a difference between an employee who says, we're going to fire you, and a talent who says, we need you to stop sticking gun under the table during the show.
00:50:07.000So if I sold the show to somebody, it's, hey, I want you guys to run this, and we'll make this the best show and the biggest show ever, and we'll keep it going.
00:50:38.000Yeah, I don't want to work at a company, or maybe it's just not possible to have a company where people are motivated by fear and don't want to be there.
00:53:32.000So what happened, and the story that I was told is that Shane has a State of the Union meeting, and he orders pizzas for everybody, and there's this big room where everyone's hanging out, and it's fun, because I had been in one, and he grabs the mic and he says, we did it.
00:54:32.000And they had a bunch of interns that effectively worked there for free.
00:54:35.000And then the Supreme Court issued the ruling you can't have interns work for free.
00:54:39.000They have to pay at least minimum wage.
00:54:42.000And then that changed everything for them.
00:54:44.000lot so the thing about New York media is that the people who work in these news organizations you might be wondering why they're all elitist snooty liberals it's because in order to get a job the New York Times you have to be able to work for free you want to get a job New York Times you intern Interning now is going to be like...
00:55:22.000And then you end up with a lot of well-to-do liberals whose parents pay so they get a job at the New York Times.
00:55:28.000Yeah, they've never experienced pain or anything in their life, and then they just are able to, you know, kiss up and continue the very, very exciting New York times.
00:56:23.000You've registered to vote in Pennsylvania?
00:56:25.000Michigan, I'm wondering if you do, because that's a swing state.
00:56:28.000I don't know what the deal is other than he said that if you're a registered voter who signed his petition and you're in Pennsylvania, you could be selected to receive a million dollars.
00:56:39.000What Elon is doing is hiring people as contract spokespersons for the PAC. The reason to sign a petition is he wants to know you believe in free speech and you'll stand for this.
00:57:04.000But that's the question I have is like, there's a lot of people I know who, especially they do big shows, like, what are they doing with their money?
00:58:25.000You had this issue like a year ago, I think, because we, the whole, I remember I super chatted like, yo, you're not the only one pushing up the hill because I was just a fan at the time.
00:58:34.000You know, and that I'm here in person.
00:58:35.000But yeah, I guess it's been an overlaying concept in your brain for a minute now?
00:58:40.000I think that we, as a company, lack the talent and managerial capabilities to maintain this show.
01:00:04.000We built a new studio, and the computer's been failing consistently over the past few weeks, and we lack the capability to have anybody with...
01:00:10.000There's no initiative, nor interest, nor talent to complete the job to make sure the studio operates.
01:00:15.000If that's where we're currently at, I've gotta just shut it all down.
01:00:22.000If I can't film myself, I don't have a company.
01:00:25.000If I rely on other people to run these things and I wake up in the morning and I can't complain about the Democrats insulting Donald Trump working at McDonald's, I'm sitting here being like, I'm looking at all of these posts and people are saying things and I'm like, no, you got that wrong because this article says this.
01:01:16.000Like, we've got a big, we've got a decent company here with a lot of employees, and we've consistently been in, like, the studio's failing.
01:02:06.000It's like neon gas or something over, like, they take a tiny piece of diamond and then they blast it with the gas and it bonds and starts forming diamond.
01:04:12.000Like, money's good, but it kind of feels like we're spending money to spin our wheels if we've got this much equipment, all these really great cameras.
01:04:53.000It looks like every house I've ever been in in Dearborn, Michigan.
01:04:56.000I think, you know, look, we wanted to launch other shows and make other properties, and some of them do decently well and some don't, but I think the issue is just like, This is probably pushing the limit of what I as a CEO and host can accomplish on my own.
01:05:18.000And so that means we bring in external management, which would be a strategic investment, partial buyout, and then you'll end up with another company running everything.
01:06:17.000Like I said, like a year ago, you had like a whole week of where you were like in the down and dumps and everyone was like, don't give up to me.
01:06:22.000That's when you're talking about picking up the rock up the hill.
01:06:37.000And they're like, well, it's because you're very focused.
01:06:40.000Well, yeah, it's not like, hey, you're eating crams.
01:06:42.000No, but I'm like, is the implication that your average person who is not on the spectrum is incapable of being a CEO? You have to be autistic in order to be a successful business.
01:06:52.000I think you have to be kind of a sociopath at times.
01:06:55.000But I'm just saying a lot of people that are in leadership positions, there is a...
01:07:00.000I'm a sociopath kind of narcissism, like a little bit.
01:07:03.000Otherwise, I don't think that anybody can be successful.
01:07:06.000I'm a comic, you're a YouTuber, let's be honest, there's some narcissism in the room, whether you want to admit it or not.
01:07:10.000Oh, this whole show is like, I think people should hear what I have to say.
01:09:08.000You know, I've met a lot of people in my day who say things like, if only I had money, I could do X. And I'm like, that is not true for literally any successful person.
01:09:17.000Successful people got hired or got their jobs because they were doing something already.
01:09:21.000So, like, my first YouTube video, for the first three months of me making YouTube, I was losing money.
01:11:19.000As long as I don't spend 50 bucks a day, I'm making money.
01:11:22.000And I just did it because I wanted to do it.
01:11:25.000And then what happened was a lot of people were creating secondary channels in case they got the first one banned, which is stupid because it still breaks the rules.
01:13:42.000Holy crap, by the beginning of maybe like 2019 or whatever was when I not became a millionaire, but when the amount of money I made for the month officially hit, if I keep doing this, I'm a millionaire.
01:14:09.000Was your first video the one you talked about the Twitter people, or was it the first video when you talked about war and you covering war all the time?
01:17:37.000I mean, for the people, more for the viewers, you have more obligation to the viewers than you do have anyone working here, in my own opinion.
01:18:36.000It's a lot harder to see the evil when you're closer to the ground.
01:18:40.000And I don't mean that disrespectfully to the average person who just lives their life.
01:18:43.000But wow, the higher you climb, the more evil.
01:18:46.000So when you're close to Earth and you're on the ground, evil overlooks you because you don't matter at all.
01:18:53.000Sometimes evil will target an innocent person and just kill them in the street, things like that, right?
01:18:56.000But for the most part, there are a lot of people who you may encounter a demon, I mean figuratively, on the street and they'll say nice things to you and they'll pass you by.
01:19:03.000But once you're climbing atop the tower and the demons all start seeing you and screaming like banshees throwing knives at you and tearing you down...
01:19:13.000Well, that's, you know, I mean, and I've heard that too.
01:19:16.000I think it's a Denzel Washington AI, but I mean, it is true that it's like once you hit to a certain point, there's a reason why somebody's going after you.
01:20:07.000I... Yeah, so the question then is, like, if we are here just in service to others, then, well, then I need to find a way to keep doing some form of Timcast show that people think is important and want to keep watching.
01:20:21.000And I can't have my head explode doing it, so likely that means this show, which is an accident, has reached its culmination.
01:20:31.000And it's odd, though, because the way you explain it is everything is quality over quantity, but we're not dealing with an algorithm, like you said, where a lot of it is just quantity.
01:20:43.000You were just doing, like, the other day you said you were trying to do, like, what, 12 shows, 15 shows a week or something crazy like that?
01:20:50.000And so I'll let everybody end the secret.
01:20:53.000I remember when I first started the morning shows and my views were skyrocketing and the money was skyrocketing and there were other people being like, how is Tim Pool doing this?
01:23:09.000So, like, there are videos where person A and person B, left and right, and it's a clip from three years ago and a clip from a year ago, and they're edited together to make it look like they're arguing.
01:23:22.000I went on the front page of YouTube and I saw two different ones.
01:23:25.000And it was like, someone made a video about me using a clip of me from three years ago.
01:23:30.000Someone made a clip of me claiming that Cenk Uygur and I were fighting.
01:23:33.000And I was like, we're not fighting, what?
01:23:35.000Like, we're talking with Jank about coming on the show, but, like, how is there this video from yesterday where it's, like, Tim Pool fighting Janky?
01:23:39.000I'm like, I haven't talked to the guy in, like, two years since he was here.
01:23:42.000Well, if you look at, like, you, Rogan, the cottage industry that has come of hate for Segura, stuff like that, there's a whole thing now that just exists to hate the people that are actually successful.
01:23:54.000Well, Sam Seder's a great example of that.
01:24:44.000Because the whole, like, and YouTube's promoting this heavily.
01:24:48.000Like, if you go to the podcast section, there's, I mean, look, and it's not just me, it's like, I see people making fake videos about David Pakman, fake videos, like, and I'm just like, damn, dude, a guy with 150,000 subs has built his subs off being like, if I can't find the rage, make the rage.
01:25:51.000Then Huffington Post walks in and says, you give me $350,000, I'm going to write a bunch of stories about how cops are racist, and I'm going to make a million bucks in a month.
01:26:43.000No, no, it's fine that it's like, it's funny that it tricks some people.
01:26:46.000I mean, clearly they didn't watch the end, and if they did, they're the dumbest people.
01:26:49.000Yeah, it shouldn't trick you, I'm sorry.
01:26:51.000But, I mean, the first one did seem like a troll when the guy's, you know, sitting cross-legged at the end of a truck and just being like, yeah, just going...
01:27:25.000You know, maybe it's, maybe like, you know, Raymond was saying earlier, good times make weak men, and so we have a whole bunch of gullible fools who grew up believing everything they were told, and, you know, gullible's written on the ceiling right there above Raymond.
01:29:26.000I better knock on wood because I know people who have.
01:29:29.000He was saying, knock on wood, because if you're calling for this challenge, it may come to you.
01:29:33.000But those good times led to the millennial generation being a particularly weak and fractured generation, which is resulting in failed policy, crime waves.
01:29:48.000When the Bud Light thing happened, it happened and we all saw it.
01:29:51.000I predicted that it was going to turn out to be some millennial woman who had recently gotten promoted to the position and then decided to turn the company gay.
01:29:59.000When the Gen Xer or the Boomer, who had been running marketing and all the frat bros and everybody loved Bud Light, as soon as they walked out and they brought in the Millennial Man, she was like, we want Dylan Mulvaney and then nuked the brand.
01:32:32.000We've done no promotion for it, so we've recently brought on someone to do audio and start getting promotion because we're like, if we're the biggest on YouTube, we should certainly, but we haven't promoted anything so nobody knows we're there.
01:32:41.000But I'm like, if I did one show and got 150k and we're like, what is this?
01:33:43.000And my point is, if I do one show and it consolidates viewership, gets more reach, and allows me to focus better, then maybe that's a better way to go about doing it.
01:33:54.000I would think we got such a good opportunity with just 8 p.m.
01:34:48.000It's been a cascade failure on the studio, and it's not just about that, it's that for any project, unless I am in charge of it, to the T, it doesn't happen.
01:40:27.000I'm like, yo, if we hosted a video game judgment thing where developers were just constantly creating games, passing them in, and then there was a $1,500 prize that went to the winner.
01:40:39.000You might get like 2,000 people watching.
01:40:54.000It's like another way to garner fans and give back to the community that's subscribing and also to make money and to pay people that are up and coming developers.
01:43:47.000So you're in a reassessment timeframe then?
01:43:51.000I'm so happy you wrote May, like I said before.
01:43:54.000I wasn't going to do the show at all, but Dave was here and I was like, it's kind of a dick move.
01:43:58.000To be like, we're not going to do anything.
01:44:01.000Because you've always been open and honest with your audience, so it's good that you're doing this opening, honest with your audience right now.
01:44:07.000Did you already talk about what you've been working on lately?
01:45:21.000Like, honestly, I think when it's coming into, like, comedy, sketch, movies, all that stuff, I think there's a way to really do this right, and it's not necessarily being done.
01:45:48.000I don't know if they know what the show was.
01:45:50.000Well, like a PR company would be like, we want to get this person on your show and then think we're going to interview them about their book and then we don't.
01:45:55.000But yeah, IRL is a topical news show, daily news show.
01:45:57.000Well, do they think that you read the book?
01:48:28.000And so I'm just, there's a lot of other things too, but I'm not going to throw anybody specifically under the bus.
01:48:31.000I'm not going to bring up other things, but it's just like, like I said, 90% of the job getting done means 10% across every person that I have to handle and I can't do it all.
01:50:51.000And it's going up to Thunderbolt version five, where you can get one USB plug, can power your device with a hundred watts, and it can send 80 gigabits a second, which is like, What would that be?
01:51:06.00016 gigabytes per second of transfer data speed?
01:51:51.000He's called the Volta, I think it was a Volta pile where he just put zinc and copper on top of itself over and over and over again with like these pieces of cardboard in between them with salt water and then they just made an electrical charge and they were like, what the fuck?
01:52:05.000So they just started destroying stuff.
01:52:41.000And I was like, I got to go down there and interview her.
01:52:43.000So I've been looking at, like, difference of wattage and voltage and amperage, because I've been trying to get different devices and make sure everything's compatible.
01:52:50.000Oh, like how you're going to power it and everything?
01:53:02.000Yeah, I think we'll do a little members only for all of our members who want to have more direct conversation with some call-ins and want to ask some questions.
01:54:06.000You need to hire a COO and an IT professional.
01:54:08.000People who have no interest in making videos that day want the system to produce the videos work.
01:54:13.000The solution, I don't think the solution is try hiring more people again.
01:54:18.000Remember how you had a problem, so you hired people, and that didn't work, so you fired them, and then you hired more people, and you fired them, and you hired more people?
01:54:22.000Like, at a certain point, I'm kind of just like, I don't think that's the issue.
01:54:47.000Yeah, so you can only do so much, I guess.
01:54:51.000I think the other thing, too, is the reason why a lot of businesses are as corporate as they are is because there's no world where, like, I believe that the actual mentality of the average employee, I say average employee, I'm not speaking about anyone individual, is I gotta get mine and I'll burn this down if I have to.
01:55:15.000I think like, you know, I was talking to a friend and he said that he was at a job once and every time he'd look over, the guy's just scrolling Facebook and Amazon and not working.
01:57:11.000And I mean, that's a huge thing about working at a place like this.
01:57:14.000There's not a lot of gratitude until you go out there into the real world and realize that comedy feels like more of a safety net to me than it would working for any Fortune 500 company.
01:57:28.000So many overseas people that are doing the manufacturing.
01:57:32.000I just don't feel that people are looked at as much more than numbers.
01:57:35.000So if you're looked at by the person who owns the company as somebody who actually cares about the employer, but then you don't reciprocate that, that's kind of shitty.
01:57:45.000You know, I've been watching a lot of videos of dudes tapping trees to get rubber out or factory workers working with vinyl, just poison, chemicals, brutal, boring-ass shit, and I'm like, What an opportunity this is to work on TV and entertain for a living.
01:58:02.000We get six figures at Zug Island in Detroit where you just work with poisons all day and you're going to be reeled with tumors and die at 40, but you get six figures.
02:00:13.000Anybody who is passionate and wants to do it, who doesn't need a Whipcracker, is not going to work at a company because they can do it on their own.
02:00:36.000Well, someone's got to execute and make sure that shit's getting done and is like, look, I'm talking to the head of this department, this department, this department, this department, this department.
02:01:29.000HR doesn't exist to help you with your problems.
02:01:31.000If you work at a company, and you're having a problem employee harassing you, and they say, well, based on the current law, we're actually getting more trouble from the harassing employee than the person being harassed, so we should fire the victim and then protect the harasser.
02:01:43.000Man, there are companies where, without naming any of them, I've heard stories where a woman got pregnant and then immediately threatened them that if they ever reprimanded her, she would sue them for sexism, and she'd get a high-powered lawyer, and then they'd just let her do whatever she wanted.
02:01:55.000There's an article I read the other day.
02:01:57.000Someone, he quit his job like eight months ago, and every day he's just going in there and doing the least amount of possible, and he's still working there and he's still doing his thing.
02:02:08.000Okay, we're going to go to the members section so I can answer direct to the members because the members are the ones who make it all possible.
02:02:14.000And I'm sure they have questions and we'll answer them.
02:02:16.000So head over to TimCast.com if you want to hang out at the members show.
02:02:22.000If we don't do IRL, maybe Ian's got a point about we can just get rid of guests, we can get rid of travel, we can get rid of all the extraneous elements of the show and it's like, you know, I don't know, like four of us just do the show and hang out every day and we don't need a guest.
02:02:37.000And we can have guests periodically if someone wants to join the show and they can take care of it themselves.
02:02:41.000But otherwise we just typically don't do guests, we just do news.
02:02:45.000I think if that's not the case, what I would do for existing members, we obviously want to maintain the Discord for the people who value it as a community.
02:02:52.000And then I would do a members-only, probably like Monday through Friday at like 2pm, where I would just do something.
02:02:59.000So that way, there's still the members going on, there's still members-only content, and the people still have access to a community, and then we'll keep some staff to maintain it, and we'll figure that out.
02:03:07.000But what we're going to do now is, that's why, because I don't want to be like, hey, go subscribe to a thing where we don't know what we're going to be doing, but if you want to watch the members only, and we're going to answer questions from the members, timcast.com, you can follow me on X on Instagram.
02:03:18.000I'm probably, I don't even know if I'm going to be using X much longer, because removing the block feature is the most psychotic thing imaginable.
02:05:35.000Maybe I just do five morning shows and weekend bonus shows, and then there are seven shows a week once again, and more clips on YouTube and all that stuff.
02:05:45.000So we're here with the members of the show.