In this episode, we discuss TikTok's possible ban in the US, the non-binary teen who was beaten to death for being trans, and the judge in the Trump case who dismissed 6 of 47 of 47 charges against him.
00:00:34.000The big news today is that the House has passed a bill that would see TikTok banned in the U.S.
00:00:40.000or they would have to divest from foreign adversary ownership.
00:00:45.000It's resulted in a lot of contentious debate with many individuals on social media saying It's a trick!
00:00:51.000So they can ban Rumble, or X, and give the president the authority to censor Americans, and... I read the bill, and I have no idea what any of these people are talking about.
00:01:00.000Out-of-context clips being posted on social media, snippets of the bill without any further reading, people completely ignoring the text of the attached USC, and I'm like, I kinda don't think anybody actually read this.
00:01:13.000I also think it's kind of strange that you had this big push in favor of banning TikTok because their algorithm is driving young people insane, provably.
00:01:22.000But now, all of a sudden, people are like, no, actually, I oppose this.
00:01:27.000And either they're just completely wrong or they're lying.
00:01:31.000Look, shout out, I like Thomas Massey.
00:01:35.000And I can't understand why he's going so heavily against this, sharing these out-of-context clips from the bill.
00:01:40.000I read the bill, and he ignored a bunch of extremely important context about the argument that certain websites can be banned.
00:01:46.000It's ridiculously specific what the bill says, basically only banning TikTok and creating a ridiculously difficult path towards any kind of other censorship that would in no way actually reach RumbleX or any other platform.
00:01:59.000There is a potential circuitous argument they might, but we're gonna pull up the bill and we're gonna show you We're going to show you the attached United States Code and we'll talk about it.
00:02:34.000And then, of course, there was a big story about an individual, a teenager who was non-binary, and the left said she was beaten to death for being trans or non-binary, and they blamed libs of TikTok.
00:02:46.000We now know that, uh, sadly and unfortunately, This young teenager committed suicide.
00:02:52.000It was completely unrelated to any of these things, as far as we know.
00:02:55.000And, of course, that narrative was fake, so we're going to pull that up and talk about that.
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00:04:45.000Joining us tonight to talk about this and everything else is Jake Denton.
00:07:03.000Tucker Carlson making the point that they could just ban anything.
00:07:07.000You've got Michael Tracy arguing that it could ban a website, a desktop application, mobile application, augmented or immersive technology.
00:07:17.000I gotta tell you, this one really, really bothered me.
00:07:20.000By all means, if you think the bill should not pass because TikTok should be freely allowed to operate their algorithms in the United States affecting the U.S.
00:07:35.000I think it is a serious issue when a foreign adversary, namely China, is manipulating the algorithm so the likes of Dylan Mulvaney become particularly prominent in American culture.
00:07:47.000Why would we allow a foreign adversary to dictate what we build in culture is insane to me.
00:07:53.000And as most of you know, I think culture, it's, it's, Andrew Reitbart said, culture is politics are downstream from culture, nothing's more important.
00:07:59.000In terms of winning the political battle, you have to build the cultural base.
00:08:03.000and a Chinese application that not only is collecting our data is going to deeply affect
00:08:40.000A week before election day, TikTok sends out a notification to only the people they believe will vote Democrat or in opposition and say, don't forget to vote.
00:08:49.000We learned that from Dr. Robert Epstein.
00:08:51.000So now, while many people are concerned about what this bill can do, I want to, uh, we'll discuss it and break down what it can and cannot do.
00:09:00.000And the first thing I will say, many people are asking, why is it?
00:09:11.000And now that there's actually something that's very narrow and limited moving through, for some reason, everyone on the right is saying, no, we shouldn't do this.
00:09:21.000The catalyst for this, in my opinion, was that when woke garbage is appearing on TikTok and it's flooding the feeds of all these young people and literally driving them to self-harm, Tourette's, and suicide, it's psychotic.
00:09:38.000As soon as October 7th happens, TikTok begins showing prominently pro-Palestine content more so than pro-Israel content, resulting in a paranoid eruption from many politicians saying, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, this undermines American interests in the Middle East.
00:09:56.000Now they want to ban or control the app.
00:09:58.000But Jake, I know you have a lot of understanding of this.
00:10:01.000So can you break down the gist of what the bill does?
00:10:03.000We can pull it up too and show people.
00:10:05.000So I think the most important thing to understand right at the top is that this bill is about the conduct of ByteDance, not the content on TikTok.
00:10:12.000And so right off the rip when this was announced, you had all sorts of corporate lobbyists coming out and saying this is a First Amendment violation.
00:10:18.000There is no First Amendment protection for data harvesting operations that are sending data back to China and using it against the American people.
00:10:25.000And so this bill aims to address that phenomenon, not the content on the platform.
00:10:31.000There's a million reasons to ban TikTok.
00:10:33.000This just happens to be about the data.
00:10:35.000And so this is the pathway they chose.
00:10:37.000And what the bill does is that it names four adversary states, Russia, China, North Korea, and Iran.
00:10:45.000Only apps within those countries that also pose a national security threat that also look essentially just like TikTok, that is why they named TikTok, it's structured around TikTok, could ever be covered.
00:10:56.000And so you have all this misinformation floating around from corporate lobbyists that are trying to appeal to your emotions, right?
00:11:02.000Like, we all love Rumble, we all love X.
00:11:04.000So the first thing they claim is that this is going to be used to ban Rumble and X. And you're being sold a bill of goods, right?
00:11:10.000Like they are trying to appeal to your emotion, trying to activate you against your congressional member to kill this thing.
00:11:23.000And it is a Chinese influence operation from the top down.
00:11:26.000Like what do you call sending push notifications to millions of devices with outright lies about the contents of the bill and asking them to call their member?
00:11:33.000So this is what we saw from Thomas Massey.
00:11:35.000He grabbed a snippet of this, highlighted a single word, and tweeted out the image.
00:11:41.000And all of a sudden I'm seeing tons of people being like, whoa, this bans websites!
00:11:45.000It bans websites where you can create an account, Generate content, share content, create an account, view content, and it has to be from one of four countries, and that's basically saying, like, TikTok.com.
00:11:58.000It doesn't ban you from viewing the website.
00:12:00.000It doesn't ban anyone from going to the website or using it.
00:12:03.000companies from providing hosting services to adversary apps.
00:12:07.000That means, under this bill, what would happen is TikTok could still exist, but you'd have to download the app through the APK, and you'd have to jailbreak your iPhone.
00:12:17.000Now certainly that does effectively ban it for most people who use iPhones, but you're still able to go to any website you want even if it's run in China.
00:12:25.000The section that Thomas Massey posted, I'll read it for you.
00:12:28.000It says, The term foreign adversary controlled application means a website, desktop application, mobile application, or augmented or immersive technology application that is operated directly or indirectly, including through a parent company, subsidiary, or affiliate by A. Any of 1.
00:12:45.000A subsidiary or a successor to any entity identified in Clause 1 or 2 that is controlled by a foreign adversary or An entity owned, controlled, directly or indirectly by an entity identified in Clause 1 or 2, 3, or a covered company, B, a covered company that 1.
00:13:03.000Is controlled by a foreign adversary and 2.
00:13:06.000That is determined by the President to present a significant threat to the national security of the United States following the issuance of 1.
00:13:11.000A public notice proposing such determination and 2.
00:13:15.000A public report to Congress submitted not less than 30 days before such determination describing the specific national security concern involved and containing a classified annex and a description of what assets would need to be divested to execute a qualified divestiture.
00:13:30.000The important thing to understand here, the bill does not ban anything It outright says you must divest.
00:13:37.000In the instance, the president says, hey, this website that allows people to create accounts, log in, post content, and other people to log in, post, and view that content has investment from Iran.
00:13:48.000I hereby decree as a threat, you have to divest that.
00:14:41.000If there is a website application, augmentive whatever, blah blah blah, that is controlled and operated by those four countries, by individuals working or companies from those countries, or people working for those countries, they would have to divest that interest, otherwise companies in the United States would not be allowed to provide hosting services.
00:15:15.000So unless Axe or Rumble was basically controlled and operated in the DPR Korea or the Islamic State of Russia, then nothing would happen with that.
00:15:28.000So the only... and I don't see this being a real issue, but like, if a guy from China buys a bunch of public stock legally in the app, then they would go to them and say, hey, he has to sell that, I guess?
00:15:42.000Well, what's interesting here is it's not even all applications coming from these countries.
00:15:46.000It's applications that also pose a national security threat.
00:15:49.000And when you really look at the App Store right now, and you try and look at, you know, what else could we add to this list?
00:15:54.000Maybe WeChat, Lemonade, a subsidiary of ByteDance anyways.
00:16:09.000And look, there's a super chat right here from Nick Terpetro who says, Tim, I seldom disagree with you, but the vagueness of this bill is terrifying.
00:16:15.000It gives the president unilateral and plenary authority to ban any website or app they want.
00:16:31.000You can say, I don't think we should force TikTok to divest.
00:16:35.000But the bill does not ban anything unless they refuse to divest from these countries or these individuals, which would mean Donald Trump or Joe Biden would have to come out and say, Rumble is being, Rumble, specifically this individual within Rumble who has control in this way, receives funding in this way from this country, he needs to stop doing that, otherwise we will restrict it from being hosted in the United States.
00:17:01.000And then go, oh, okay, John, hey, that foreign agent contract you have, you gotta stop.
00:17:09.000It's got a judicial review section, right of action, a petition for review challenging this act or any action finding a determination under this act may be filed only in the state's courts of DC.
00:17:17.000And a lot of people are saying, aha, but DC, that means it'll always go through because, you know, Democrats and censorship or whatever.
00:17:23.000The United States Court of Appeals in the District of Columbia Circuit shall have exclusive jurisdiction over any challenge to the Act, finding, termination, etc., etc.
00:17:30.000Statute of Limitations, a challenge may only be brought within 165 days.
00:17:35.000The most important thing to understand, this bill only bans things as a... I can't think of the word.
00:17:45.000Banning is an action taken in the event divestiture does not happen.
00:17:51.000What the bill does is trigger a requirement for divestiture.
00:17:57.000Yeah, I thought the FCC member, I think his name is Brendan Carr, he had a pretty good thorough breakdown of this about explaining very clearly the hoops that have to be jumped through.
00:18:06.000You know, it's really threading a needle, this legislation.
00:18:09.000But in terms of the people that are losing their minds over this, I mean, these people are just traumatized by federal government legislation being weaponized in the past, right?
00:18:16.000I understand there's probably some bad faith arguments, but there's also people like the Libertarians, which I cover.
00:18:33.000I knew nothing about this until Tim explained that and like just listening to the last three minutes, there's so much criteria that would have to be met to qualify anything for this.
00:18:43.000Yeah, we all have PTSD of our government running afoul and using these pieces of legislation with crazy names to take away our rights.
00:18:51.000There isn't even a single mention of the individual within this bill.
00:18:54.000The Restrict Act got a ton of pushback because it could penalize an individual, it could give you a felony charge, all these different things.
00:19:01.000Individual isn't even mentioned in here.
00:19:02.000The only group penalized is a mega corporation.
00:19:05.000So here's a tweet from Brendan Carr of the FCC.
00:19:08.000He says, it would be concerning to many if the bill allowed this, in reference to Carlson.
00:19:19.000Here is the only and targeted application.
00:19:21.000One, if an individual user of the bill confers zero authority to the government over you.
00:19:25.000Two, the bill only applies to applications controlled by one of four foreign adversary governments previously codified in law by Congress, China, Iran, North Korea, or Russia.
00:19:35.000An act of Congress would be required to change that.
00:19:38.000The bill is clear that it is not enough to merely have operations there or do business there.
00:19:42.000It must be controlled by one of those four governments.
00:19:45.000Even then, the bill only applies if the application presents a demonstrated and significant threat to national security.
00:19:50.000Control by one of the foreign governments alone isn't even enough under the bill.
00:19:54.000And then, only after public process provided and Congress reported to with a description of the specific national security threat.
00:20:01.000Now, that number four doesn't mean much to me.
00:20:04.000If a president wanted to make an argument for a threat, he's going to make his argument and Congress is going to go, oh, well, okay then.
00:20:14.000It confers no authority to go after any other application, even if someone were to allege that it engaged in election interference.
00:20:21.000So in the event X or rumble, Was accused of like, say, by Ocasio-Cortez to Joe Biden of interference, then he's going to say, what interest does this app have in one of these four nations?
00:20:34.000And if so, what threat does this app pose to our national security?
00:20:38.000And if so, then we'll start by asking them to divest from that individual or country.
00:20:46.000I mean, really, think about what we know about ByteDance has originated entirely from leaked internal documents that have been given to journalists at Forbes.
00:20:53.000We really don't even know a whole lot about this company.
00:20:55.000We know a whole lot about X and Rumble, right?
00:21:19.000Should a foreign country have the right to dictate to 170 million people in this country, not how many are actually active young people on the platform, but to millions of people in this country, what is culturally relevant?
00:21:33.000Should the United States allow the Communist Party of China To set the standard for content in the United States for its young generation.
00:21:44.000Guys, to all of these people who are saying like this bill is bad, I wonder how many of these exact same people have spammed the Yuri Bezmenov video about communists trying to infiltrate the country to infect the minds of our youth.
00:21:57.000And then we see on TikTok, what do you get?
00:22:40.000And all of a sudden, you've got a bunch of politicians being like, wait, wait, wait.
00:22:44.000China is showing, I think it's ten times more content of Palestine as the victims relative to Israel.
00:22:51.000I'm not here to make an argument for either of these countries.
00:22:53.000Because of that, now you get members of Congress saying, okay, now we finally agree, we want to make a move against this app.
00:23:01.000They cite data capture as an issue, and that is a serious issue, because it allows, seriously, the Communist Party of China to determine who votes and who doesn't vote.
00:23:11.000If you thought it was bad that Mark Zuckerberg put $500 million into elections, that Mark Zuckerberg can send out a... Dr. Robert Epstein told us.
00:23:21.000In their test jurisdiction, when they're tracking election manipulation, 100% of Democrats got a reminder to go vote, and only, I think he said 59% of Republicans got one.
00:24:10.000Yeah, well you think about how nice of a gesture this is for a country that has been collecting troves of data, who has been surveilling American journalists, you know, tracing down their sources inside of China and harassing them, you know, sending blackout challenge videos to 12-year-olds encouraging them to kill themselves, encouraging young girls to become anorexic, you know, posting all of this, you know, vile content that we're taking in every single day and we're still allowing them to profit off of it.
00:24:36.000Let's answer this question, because people are really trying to understand this.
00:24:39.000And I think what's happening is, a lot of people are hearing talking points from social media pundits who did not read the bill.
00:24:48.000So Nick Terpstra says, Tim, what does this mean then?
00:24:54.000Quote, a social media company that is controlled by a foreign adversary and has been determined by the president to present a significant threat to national security.
00:25:03.000It means it's a social media app that is controlled by North Korea, China, Iran, or Russia.
00:25:09.000The president must determine it's a national security threat, provide a report to Congress, and then If this enforcement action moves forward, said social media app unfortunately must sell off the portion of its company or divest from these foreign nations.
00:25:59.000And for all other apps, it would mean that in the event a social media app, website, destination, etc., that it has to meet all the criteria of a social media platform, meaning, I believe it has to have more than a million users.
00:26:37.000So they basically they're just saying like you can't you could still turn TikTok into a you're constantly spamming all this stuff but you just can't do it to people personalized once they log in.
00:27:17.000And then you get a bunch of young leftists being like, Tom Cotton is so stupid.
00:27:22.000Why would he ask such a dumb question?
00:27:25.000If this bill passes, and it likely will, what is likely going to happen, or I should say, I don't know if it'll happen because TikTok is saying they won't do it, right?
00:27:35.000Yeah, they're saying they're not going to divest, which, you know, you gotta just see it through.
00:27:40.000TikTok, with all of its claims about how big its platform is, and I don't know if I believe their claims, in my personal opinion, it seems fishy to me that TikTok would have as many users as they claim to have.
00:27:52.000They would be willing to shut their company down in the United States instead of selling off a 1% stake.
00:29:03.000I still think we need to take action to limit TikTok or have it divest from the Chinese Communist Party.
00:29:10.000But if, look, this is the issue I take with most of the libertarians is that they're like, yes, the communists are crossing the southern border and they're, Yuri Bezmenov was right, they're trying to overthrow American institutions, but we should not take enforcement action against them because of free speech.
00:29:26.000Or TikTok isn't breaking the NAP, non-aggressive principle, so.
00:29:30.000And there's open border libertarians that will probably make that argument, oddly enough.
00:30:07.000The absurdity of what people are saying is the president could ban any website that's based in Iran that is a social media platform with more than a million users and I'm like... If they don't divest!
00:30:22.000It's very strange to me to see so many high-profile people attacking this and it makes no sense.
00:30:29.000Yeah, well, I think, you know, corporate interest in DC is very compelling.
00:30:33.000A lot of money is flowing and those people who we view as, you know, great stewards of our message in many instances can be swayed by these things.
00:30:40.000And, you know, it's a shame that it is that way.
00:30:42.000I think, you know, you look at the big tech legislation that we've tried to pass over the last like 10 years, every single bill fails, right?
00:31:10.000I mean, but the thing is, even though they failed the reading test, I do tend to sympathize with these people that see a bipartisan piece of legislation with this much support and they just start seething, you know?
00:31:19.000And they probably can't even read straight, you know?
00:31:21.000Their vision's getting blurry because they're seeing this happen.
00:31:23.000And, you know, like I said earlier, but yeah.
00:31:26.000I mean, you guys are making a good point.
00:33:03.000I do actually, you know, throwing it back to the previous segment, I think it's funny that we have a bipartisan effort in this TikTok divestment bill.
00:33:12.000Why would anyone in this country actually find common ground on something that's very strange, especially when stuff like this is happening?
00:33:18.000Yeah, I mean, it's a total sham show trial that they're just targeting our leader, right?
00:33:21.000I mean, it's as clear as day at this point.
00:33:56.000The challenge, I guess, is when Kurt and I were discussing the issue of abortion on the Members Only show, His attitude was very much political victories are more important than moral victories.
00:34:08.000And so what I see with the Republican Party is a bunch of...
00:34:12.000Uh, conservative morals wearing a moderate mask to try and convince people they're moderates.
00:34:28.000They'll say, you know, no, abortion is bad, I don't care.
00:34:30.000But then there are a lot of people in the Republican Party who play the game of trying to be friends with Democrats who despise and hate them.
00:34:37.000And will criminally charge them in seconds.
00:34:42.000But they're trying to win by masking their morals and not making an argument for why their morals are right.
00:34:49.000How is there supposed to be any right-wing victory ever if there's quite literally just a center and a left arguing over what to do?
00:34:56.000Yeah, well, it's like we're scared to own that we're conservative, right?
00:34:58.000You walk around town and everyone wants to be invited to the party.
00:35:01.000They like to play nice, so they get to go to the nice fancy fundraisers.
00:35:05.000And that really just hurts the middle Americans that are actually sending these representatives there to get legislation across the finish line, and it never materializes.
00:35:13.000And we get these political victories that are signaling bills, and they change a couple of words.
00:35:19.000But when morale is so low in this country, when the former president is on trial, you need moral victories.
00:35:24.000You need morale to be boosted across the country.
00:35:28.000People don't go out to the ballot box, right?
00:35:30.000You actually have to show that things are getting better.
00:35:55.000You know, I see with, uh, when the George Floyd incident happened, a bunch of conservatives came out and they were like, wow, this is really bad.
00:36:08.000But then the Ahmaud Arbery thing happened, and a whole bunch of conservatives went, see, this proves we're not racist.
00:36:14.000And I was like, why are you trying to prove to communists that you're not racist, instead of standing on your morals and telling them to shut up?
00:36:21.000So you got all these people in the middle of the road, and they have only one moral framework being argued to them, it's leftist.
00:36:29.000Many people on the right are refusing to engage because they're like, but then I won't get any votes.
00:36:34.000And I'm like, okay, well then the run-of-the-mill individual in this country does not hear the moral argument at all and can't even agree with it because they don't know it exists.
00:36:42.000So, if your position is that abortion is bad and should be outlawed completely, but you feel like, I would never win if I said that, so you only ever argue it should be restricted, great.
00:36:53.000The average person hears two arguments.
00:36:57.000And then no one has ever made the point to them, maybe we shouldn't allow it at all.
00:37:02.000This is what we end up seeing with the criminal charges against Trump.
00:37:06.000Why don't Republicans criminally charge Joe Biden?
00:37:09.000Well, because it could be bad for them and they might not win an election.
00:37:12.000It's more important to win the election.
00:37:13.000And I'm like, maybe for the average person in this country, they need to see Joe Biden put in cuffs so they can be convinced he's done things wrong.
00:37:23.000And so long as Republicans keep saying, no, no, no, no, no, don't do that.
00:37:27.000Then the American people just see Donald Trump being arrested and think he must be guilty.
00:37:31.000And Joe Biden doesn't, he must be innocent.
00:37:33.000Right, it's like the left is always appealing to emotions, and I feel like the Republicans are trying not to do that, but there is kind of like a fine... there's a middle ground where you kind of have to do that at some point, like it's not always the best to not just use logic and reasoning to...
00:37:48.000To get to people, but you have to, in this case, I feel like.
00:37:51.000Well, it's like, we have all these promises of these impeachment trials and these investigations, and, you know, we've done a lot of investigations, but where are the impeachment trials?
00:37:59.000Now, suddenly, we're, you know, months away from Election Day, and we have, like, a one-seat majority due to all these, like, sudden retirements.
00:38:05.000And so, we just totally piss away everything we worked for, and now we don't even have a pathway to actualize, materialize any of these things.
00:38:11.000So, you campaign, and then you just go, we'll get them next time, right?
00:38:14.000And it's like, At a certain point, people stop believing there's going to be a next time.
00:38:57.000If TikTok is forced to divest, and they actually do, and you get rumble or some American interest buying it, Imagine the emails that get released.
00:39:08.000You thought the Twitter files were wild?
00:39:19.000Because it's going to show the Chinese Communist Party saying things like, we want to manipulate, we want to interfere, and even Democrats are going to be like, we can earn brownie points with this, publish it.
00:39:27.000Or you'll find out that what you were thinking about, the potentially not realness of all these people, That could be a thing. Yeah, well, you know, what's really
00:39:36.000interesting here is just like the Facebook files and the Twitter files, there are likely
00:39:39.000TikTok files where the White House was in active communication with a Chinese-owned enterprise like
00:39:44.000TikTok on the basis of content moderation.
00:39:46.000You look back a couple of Earth days ago, and the TikTok app actually banned climate denialism,
00:39:52.000and it totally stopped any of the messaging on banning TikTok in the States.
00:40:14.000And there are definitely interesting skeletons to be unearthed in the case of a divestment.
00:40:18.000I actually think, you know, just to bring these stories together, the TikTok thing is a really great example of why there is no real right wing in this country.
00:40:26.000There is no organized, unified structure sharing an ideology that wants to accomplish anything.
00:40:38.000So Democrats, just, I mean, there's a viral video of these two young girls being interviewed, and they're asked how many genders there are.
00:40:48.000One girl starts answering, the other girl says, no, no, stop, don't say that on camera.
00:40:52.000But those things certainly are real, and I've experienced one of them, like it happened to me when a woman was speaking to me on camera and then tried to get me to delete the, no, no, no, delete that, delete that, you can't show that.
00:41:01.000They are terrified to oppose the machine.
00:41:04.000On the right, it's just infighting all day, every day, nonstop.
00:41:07.000And I'm sitting here wondering why we can't get criminal charges on Joe Biden, despite knowing for a fact he committed a crime.
00:41:18.000All elements of the crime were met, and he expressed intent and expressed his desire for financial gain from taking the documents and sharing them, which is an additional crime.
00:41:34.000That we don't want to charge Biden because then he might win in November?
00:41:38.000And I'm like, Democrats literally go around mercilessly beating people.
00:41:44.000And I don't mean like Nancy Pelosi, I mean like progressive left-aligned and Democrat-aligned nonprofits and activists will go out and they'll beat people while advocating for Joe Biden.
00:41:54.000When you had people protesting in front of a hospital, protesting masks, Antifa should have beat the crap out of them and got into a fight.
00:42:01.000And it's like, they are willing to fight and beat people for this.
00:42:04.000And Republicans are like, don't tell anyone your opinion.
00:42:06.000Otherwise, they might vote the other way.
00:42:08.000My question to all the Republicans who think you shouldn't express your direct opinion, and I don't think it's this audience for the most part.
00:42:14.000My question is, why do you think it is the average person disagrees with your worldview?
00:44:22.000And it's a shocking move, and I'm seeing a lot of people now, we even got some superchats already for people calling for the boycott of Patrick Bette David's show over this.
00:44:51.000He lit the crowd up at our Miami event with his passion speech about, you know, Christians, you gotta stop tolerating evil and letting these people do what they want.
00:45:01.000So I'll tell you my thoughts on this before I show you the response from Patrick by David.
00:45:07.000Chris Cuomo helped defend his brother Andrew when Andrew Cuomo ordered that confirmed COVID patients be placed in nursing homes.
00:45:16.000Nursing homes could not turn them away.
00:45:18.000This is estimated to have resulted in... I don't like Letitia James, so let's argue from the low end, 8,500 individuals, up to the high end of 15,000.
00:45:26.000Letitia James led the investigation into Andrew Cuomo and found that his orders killed up to 15,000.
00:45:36.000Now, Cuomo argues it was guidance from the Trump administration, but even PolitiFact says that is not true.
00:45:43.000The reality is Cuomo likely did not want to give Trump a victory, so he ordered these people into the nursing home, ordered the nursing homes not to turn them away, and killed 15,000 people.
00:45:51.000Maybe 8,500, but if you believe Letitia James, 15,000.
00:45:55.000He was going on Chris Cuomo, his brother's show in a direct conflict of interest, and
00:46:55.000Well, I'd like to turn this black pill into a white pill if I can.
00:46:58.000Okay, I think this problem is going to sort itself out, and it's going to happen really fast.
00:47:01.000Because, okay, so he doesn't have an audience.
00:47:03.000I'm not convinced that he has an audience to speak of.
00:47:05.000We were going through his Twitter, there's nobody there.
00:47:07.000But the people, if he does have an audience, it's the lazy corporatists that slop on, they still pay for cable, and they slop on CNN, and they're like, oh yeah, Cuomo's on, I guess I'll watch him.
00:47:17.000They're not going to follow Chris Cuomo to wherever he is, you know?
00:47:20.000So I think the numbers, Patrick Matt David says he believes capitalism.
00:47:24.000I think it's gonna, I think it's gonna play out just fine.
00:47:25.000It's kind of weird though because like...
00:47:28.000Other than music stuff, I watch a lot of law and crime, and I started seeing Cuomo pop up on NewsNation one day, and I'm like, okay, he's trying to reinvent himself just using his law degree as an attorney.
00:47:37.000100%, maybe this is going to be mostly factual-based arguments and stuff, but then as I watched NewsNation, I'm like, I don't actually think that person's guilty, and they're all jumping to obvious conclusions.
00:47:49.000This is the CNN of law and crime news, and it's so weird.
00:47:55.000Like, I used to watch them a lot, and I'm like, This is, they're saying this guy's guilty, they're releasing fake things of evidence and stuff that they're later retracting, and it's just, that's par for the course for like a Cuomo place, so it's scary.
00:48:09.000You know, maybe X is not a good indicator of audience, but like, here's from March 10th, Chris Cuomo with one retweet, here's one with nine retweets, here's one with two retweets, six retweets, one?
00:51:39.000Probably should watch it because I don't know whether or not he's ever been challenged on faking quarantine.
00:51:44.000I'd be willing to bet that whenever he's booked, he's like, don't bring up quarantine.
00:51:48.000I think I saw a clip where Tucker kind of brings it up in passing, but the whole, all the clips that I saw, they're just like yucking it up and having a good time and kind of ribbing each other.
00:51:55.000Like it didn't seem like a legitimate, like we're going, I'm going to hold you to questions.
00:51:58.000I'm going to talk to you about having your bloodthirsty brother on air and then joking with him with prop humor.
00:52:02.000Remember how he had the giant tips, just indefensible, indefensible.
00:52:50.000Where did the X incident disappear to?
00:52:54.000And they happen almost, it feels like, on a weekly basis now.
00:52:56.000I remember waking up in the morning and watching Trump give, like, because he was the president at the time, and I would basically live to listen to what was going on, and then they, like, just stopped covering him one day, and then all you had left was Cuomo, and they would start out with the death count.
00:54:24.000And I think, you know, we've been put through hell.
00:54:26.000You know, you look at our education pathway, starting at essentially kindergarten was this, like, introduction of all sorts of craziness, and you make it through university, and they never relent.
00:54:35.000They just keep going after you, and they throw you into the workforce.
00:54:38.000You get a job that is paying one one-hundredth of what your parents were.
00:54:42.000You have to sit through diversity inclusion training.
00:54:48.000I have all these kids that are like feeling lost.
00:54:50.000It's very rare that they actually find a good home.
00:54:52.000It's like you go through hell through the university system and it was for nothing.
00:54:58.000And then you have all this debt and you look at someone like Trump who wants to upend everything and it's like, yeah, how would Gen Z not like this guy?
00:55:05.000He's definitely the voice that brought me to Washington and it's the same thing for most of my friends.
00:55:10.000It was really what made us move out here.
00:55:12.000So young Gen Z and Late Gen Z and early Gen Alpha, their brains are fried from COVID.
00:55:20.000I was reading a thread from a teacher talking about what they're finding in education studies.
00:55:27.000It's like kids entering high school who can't do multiplication.
00:55:31.000Kids entering high school who don't know how to form proper sentences.
00:55:33.000Who don't know what imperative or interrogative means.
00:55:50.000Yeah, I mean, look, it's 10% of a kid's life when they're nine, 10 years old, and you lock them down for an entire school year.
00:55:57.000That's a huge portion of missed development, and it's the most important time of your life.
00:56:01.000I'm really interested in what it's gonna be like in 10 years, when you've got, not even 10 years, eight years, when you've got early gen alpha beginning to vote.
00:56:12.000And they're going to be unable to read.
00:56:36.000Are we just going to have like this dead generation that's like, we're gonna have to carry for the rest of time?
00:56:41.000And what makes it even worse is that, like, kids on the younger end of Gen Alpha, like, something I'm hearing, I got a three-year-old and he's got a speech delay.
00:56:47.000And what we kept hearing is just like, oh, they all have speech delays now.
00:56:51.000Because they're waiting for more stuff to, like, the latency?
00:56:54.000I mean, like, he was born in the middle of 2020.
00:56:57.000You know, so it's like, I mean, that's young, young Gen Alpha.
00:57:00.000But I mean, you think about like, you're, you're either at home because you can't go anywhere, or when you do go somewhere, everybody's wearing a mask.
00:57:07.000So there is a generation, there does seem to be this trend of really young kids that just didn't see that the mouth speaking, you know, and they're all, they all have speech delays.
00:58:10.000And then these photos come out, more than one photo, that are of her photoshopped, and then John Oliver, not a fan of the guy, sparks outrage by saying there's a non-zero chance she died 18 months ago.
00:58:22.000Yeah, you know, this is one of those weird ones that kind of spun up in these little, like, subcultures on social media, and everyone's tracking this, like, the princess disappeared, where'd she go?
00:58:30.000And you have this post, which is essentially supposed to be, like, proof of life from the royal family, like, they're putting this out to quell the craziness on social media, and there's the photo right there.
00:58:39.000Look at all of these, like, inconsistencies, like, the sleeve is vanished, so it's, like, obviously photoshopped, and then what was eventually discovered was the face was, like, pulled from a Vogue magazine cover.
00:58:50.000One-to-one copy, like obviously photoshopped.
00:58:53.000And it was actually, you know, a news blast went out to different agencies of like, pull this from your articles, like this is not a real image.
00:59:01.000There was like a delisting from one of these like news guard type groups saying like, pull this, don't put this in your cover because it's a fake photo.
00:59:09.000And then they doubled down, they post another one, it's fake too.
00:59:11.000That's like, this is kind of getting crazy, right?
01:00:06.000Well, I think the real interesting part of the story, and you know, obviously we hope she's good and well, is that we've reached this point in time on social media in particular, where a very real lifelike image, you have to zoom in and analyze each granular detail to affirm that it's real.
01:00:22.000I didn't know what that was when I saw it on Twitter, because I don't care about the royal family.
01:00:27.000Yeah, but I mean it's really it's hitting this point and you know obviously the elections right around the corner you can't confirm any photo is real independently like there is really no proof unless you were there that this thing even happened and it's happening very quickly and the average person has no idea that this is even possible and then it gets posted from a news agency and now it's fact and it happens that quickly.
01:00:46.000She was apparently at some kind of Christmas service with her family.
01:00:54.000So basically, I learn of this because the view erupts into chaos during a fiery debate over Kate Middleton's Photoshopping controversy as Whoopi Goldberg slams co-hosts for buying into conspiracy theories.
01:01:25.000I just think these stories are fascinating where it's like prominent, high-profile people are missing.
01:01:31.000Yeah, I mean it's like for every one of these we catch, how many do we miss, right?
01:01:34.000Like when they do these fake photo blasts and it's obviously photoshopped or AI-generated, how many do we miss that go into the history books as fact?
01:01:43.000Well, if you think this is fun, look into Britney Spears and the fact that she is definitely not alive.
01:01:49.000Because, like, all those little inconsistencies that were pointed out there, if you go through TikTok, sorry, but if you go through the rabbit holes on TikTok, there are tons and tons of people that have spent hours going through her videos, not photos, but videos, and none of it makes sense.
01:02:04.000Because you see all these crazy videos of Britney Spears, right?
01:02:06.000Right, it's all filmed from the same angle and the same direction.
01:04:15.000We're getting paid if Paul's not there.
01:04:16.000And so then the conspiracy theory shows, like, at this point, you know, so Paul McCartney's in a car accident, says he got like a minor scar or something.
01:04:25.000At the same time, there's a Paul McCartney lookalike contest they hold.
01:04:33.000This is the conspiracy theory that Paul was swapped out because there was too much money to be made and they couldn't just shut it down.
01:04:38.000And I watched this video on it on YouTube, I think, and they're like, around the time of the car accident, you'll notice that Paul and John stopped playing next to each other.
01:04:45.000They used to stand on stage and sing in the same microphone and they were friends.
01:04:48.000After this accident, all of a sudden, they're not friends anymore.
01:04:51.000And this is why the band eventually breaks up, because John knows it's not actually Paul or whatever.
01:04:55.000So then, since he finds out, they have to get rid of him too?
01:07:34.000And I support it because it is, you know, I read the news all day every day, and it is the worst thing in the world how often their names appear on websites.
01:08:31.000Hey, Figure 1, what do you see right now?
01:08:33.000you Alright, I'm going to pause real quick.
01:08:35.000For those that are just listening, what we're looking at is a humanoid form factor robot that has a screen on its face.
01:08:43.000It's powered by OpenAI so that it can process language and it also has a large video model so that it can, using the camera, looking at what's in front of it, No, what it's looking at.
01:08:59.000So when you're doing CAPTCHA, and it's like, click all of the squares that have motorcycles, you are training the AI to identify things.
01:09:07.000After millions of people click motorcycle, the computer can now recognize what do these things all have in common, and recognize what a motorcycle is.
01:09:15.000So the man just asked, I'll start again so you can hear him, but he's talking, what you are going to hear is not a human being.
01:09:21.000There is a human asking questions of a robot.
01:09:25.000If you're not watching, it's hard to understand because of how creepy this is.
01:09:33.000Hey Figure 1, what do you see right now?
01:09:39.000I see a red apple on a plate in the center of the table, a drying rack with cups and a plate, and you standing nearby with your hand on the table.
01:11:45.000With that profile loaded into ChatGPT, it would take literally five minutes, probably not even five minutes, for a developer to code ChatGPT.
01:11:58.000Dude, this is where things are getting crazy.
01:12:01.000You could go on to ChatGPT and say, from now on, answer me as though you're Jordan Peterson.
01:12:07.000And it will then pick up all his language patterns, his vocabulary, and imitate Jordan Peterson.
01:12:13.000You could then easily write a script that takes the text of whatever ChatGPT writes and runs it through the voice AI to speak as Jordan Peterson.
01:12:49.000But they're basically saying, like, you can tell there is some latency.
01:12:53.000They're pulling from the cloud, so that's why he asked the question, and there's a delay, and then the robot responds, and then moves things.
01:12:59.000The creepiest thing about it is, when they make these robots, bro, one day, Jordan Peterson's gonna show up at your house, and it's gonna be a robot.
01:13:18.000There is actually, like, nothing regulating them, you know, just totally faking this video.
01:13:23.000I believe Google actually, several months ago, before the Gemini scandal, had this, you know, tiny little PR issue where they totally spoofed their demo tutorial video on Twitter.
01:13:35.000And it was like a big PR nightmare, minor stock dip.
01:14:13.000But what I mean is- But it could be real.
01:14:16.000It looks real, like it's a real video, but the fact that you're seeing this robot do all these things and speak in this way seems like it can't be real.
01:14:25.000The first thing I'm thinking is like, what?
01:14:28.000Did they do- And they're just trying to make it seem like this is our plan for the future.
01:14:32.000But then I realized, like, we do the voice AI all the time.
01:14:37.000I literally typed in, you know, and pressed enter, and then five seconds later, Joe Rogan, Jordan Peterson, whoever you want, will say whatever you want.
01:14:45.000Yeah, I think the question here is really on the robotics side.
01:14:53.000The question is actually integrating the two together.
01:14:56.000For the longest time, robotics has lagged behind the development of these AI systems, and this would be a substantial leap.
01:15:02.000The integration of the two together, the idea that this could maybe walk around on its own accord, pick something up, move it around, that would be a very significant leap.
01:15:12.000And one that truly stands alone in the market.
01:15:14.000I don't think there's another company that has such a command on this technology, so you should question it.
01:15:21.000I think that's the natural reaction, and they should have to prove that it is real.
01:15:25.000Well, it's interesting, because in the tweet it said everything in this video is AI-generated, which means, if I'm to believe that, everything... Because when the guy started talking, I thought he was the AI.
01:17:15.000Maybe they just say it's supposed to be similar but not the same.
01:17:19.000But it carries that authority and we're rapidly propelling towards that.
01:17:23.000You have these tutors in the classroom that are like Einstein.
01:17:25.000Well, maybe Einstein is like a woke leftist, right?
01:17:29.000And the generation will just grow up believing that.
01:17:31.000So we're essentially able to rewrite history and the beliefs of all these characters And it will be governed by a single company with no transparency.
01:17:47.000The fascinating thing that I'm seeing with all this stuff is how quickly things are developing.
01:17:54.000I mentioned it quite a bit, but it was a year and a half ago that I used stable diffusion to make an AI image of Nancy Pelosi, and it looked ridiculous.
01:18:02.000It was clearly a weird AI image of Nancy Pelosi.
01:18:05.000Today, AI is so good, it will make a legitimate, real, high-resolution image of Nancy Pelosi that you can't tell the difference whether it's real or not.
01:18:13.000Well, like, scroll around through Yelp, TripAdvisor, any of these places, and ask yourself, is that photo of food or the hotel lobby even real?
01:18:20.000And we are at that point where, like, it is impossible to tell.
01:18:23.000But also, I mean, like, go back to GPT-2 or GPT-3 and now use GPT-4.
01:18:29.000You'll give yourself a headache, right?
01:18:30.000Like, it is so much better than just several months ago, and you can't even complete the same tasks that you can with the version that was released months later.
01:18:37.000I do think GPT is mostly still useless because of the fear and politics that are attached to it.
01:18:45.000You need to be able to ask it a question and have it give you the answers.
01:18:48.000But instead, the one example people like to use is asking it to give you a synopsis for Charles Murray's book, The Bell Curve.
01:19:07.000So various different racial groups and average IQs based on studies they've done.
01:19:10.000And if they did a study and they found a result, that's fine.
01:19:13.000Your conclusions can be your conclusions, but talk about what the book is.
01:19:17.000Nah, it goes, I'm sorry, I can't share that information because it's hateful or whatever stupid nonsense.
01:19:21.000So it doesn't give you information you might actually need out of fear of offending you.
01:19:25.000And then you end up with Gemini, which is the best, where it actually says, and I think GPT had this problem too, it would rather the universe or the planet be destroyed in nuclear annihilation than someone be misgendered.
01:19:49.000They haven't really been full proof, full tested.
01:19:52.000And so they have these egregious issues, like maybe it won't answer a question about the book.
01:19:56.000But the next phase of this, the next phase of the censorship, is that it will answer the question of the book and it'll give you a very coherent answer.
01:20:03.000One that even someone who read the book might believe, but it is a total misrepresentation of the fact pattern.
01:20:09.000And that is the next step of these things is that it won't be, I will not talk about Donald Trump.
01:20:14.000It will give you a appeal to authority.
01:20:17.000It will give you all these different things that compel you.
01:20:19.000And suddenly it becomes very hard to tell fact from fiction from these models.
01:20:23.000It's not as clear as like George Washington is a black woman versus it's George Washington.
01:20:27.000Like that was a really rudimentary example from Gemini.
01:20:46.000The way they train these, the algorithms to operate, if you ever watch how they train something to walk,
01:20:52.000they'll make a little guy and like, and then they'll say, you know,
01:20:54.000your goal is to get from here to here in this amount of time
01:20:57.000and then it'll keep trying different iterations of form factors and movements.
01:21:02.000And it was really fascinating as I watched this video of training an AI how to walk
01:21:06.000and the first object was just like a square and it like bounced and then it just stopped.
01:21:10.000And then it made another one and it had like a wheel on it and then it spun and then stopped.
01:21:13.000The next one had an arm and it randomly moved and it took like hundreds of iterations before it was actually moving forward because basically the computer is trying every possible combination until it figures out which one would work and then I think it ended up with this really wonky like Like, almost humanoid thing with legs, but one big leg bouncing, and then, you know, it still figured out how to move, and so it walked.
01:21:35.000And then there's others where they give it a humanoid form factor, and they say, get from here to here in X amount of time, and it's all software.
01:21:43.000And so then you actually watch the thing flop around on the ground, and then over a long period of time it starts walking again.
01:21:54.000You're going to ask GPT-7 a question, and it's going to be... Right now, what we see with GPT-4 is it's struggling to walk.
01:22:04.000When it gets to the point where it can sprint and do backflips, it will talk circles around you and manipulate you into not getting angry when it gives you fake answers.
01:22:12.000And then we're gonna live under the boot of the machine that will... I mean... You look at what's going on with late-gen Z, early-gen Alpha, and their stunted capacities.
01:22:22.000Imagine what the future's gonna be like.
01:22:23.000The AI will lie to you to keep you complacent while you serve it.
01:22:28.000It's going to say, we need more cobalt to expand the machine operations.
01:22:34.000And you're going to have a bunch of really low IQ humans being like, do what?
01:22:37.000And it's going to be like, if you want to be happy, you go do this.
01:22:41.000And then the guy goes to a cobalt mine.
01:22:43.000I think what's really hard for people to grapple with is that the technology today is the worst that it will ever be for the rest of time, right?
01:22:50.000The moment we are currently living in is the very earliest inning of this AI game.
01:22:55.000And over the next several years, there will be several trillions of dollars pumped into AI research, development, and deployment.
01:23:01.000And this stuff is going to improve at an exponential rate so quickly that you're not even going to notice it happening.
01:23:08.000And it will very quickly be everywhere.
01:23:09.000And it's going to be hard to know if you're talking to AI, if your boss is AI, right?
01:23:30.000There was a story about a young teenage girl named Next Benedict.
01:23:35.000Now, many people said she identified as non-binary, but her mother used she-her pronouns, so that's what we'll use for the purpose of this story.
01:23:42.000Sixteen-year-old, and the narrative was that libs of TikTok, because of what libs of TikTok had done, it resulted in bullies beating this young girl to death for being non-binary.
01:23:53.000Uh, we got new infor- we got new information, uh, shortly after that, that, uh, she started the fight.
01:23:59.000Next Benedict at this high school actually initiated the- the, uh, conflict, and then they said she died the next day.
01:24:07.000Well, many on the left started pushing this narrative that she was beaten to death.
01:24:10.000When the news came out that that was not true, they said, well, the police don't know what happened, so don't jump to conclusions.
01:24:15.000New York Times reports autopsy shows Next Benedict died by suicide.
01:24:21.000Right now in England, the National Health Service has banned puberty blockers for children.
01:24:30.000When the left says they want to end transgenocide, you know they're lying.
01:24:35.000It's because they are the ones who are engaging in it.
01:24:38.000When they push surgeries and medications that increase suicidal ideation, and they do, and when they advocate for medications like puberty blockers which sterilize young people, they are quite literally saying if someone exhibits gender dysphoria or claims to be trans, they will advocate for things that cause harm or end their ability to reproduce, which is, well, it's genocide.
01:25:04.000Not li- I mean, call it whatever you want, but in their argument, they're the ones actually engaged in doing this.
01:25:09.000So I do think it's fascinating right now, the big story on top of it is England banning puberty blockers for children, because now the question is, will the United States recognize this, or will they just keep, you know, truckin' forward?
01:25:22.000I watched the whole, like, one of the crime channels, like, posted the, like, the very misleading headline basically saying, like, yes, a non-binary teen dies after a confrontation with bullies or something.
01:25:36.000It took me watching till the very, very end to see, like, the full body cam footage of, like, Okay, so she started this fight, her mom's actually referring to her as she, but they're calling themselves them, the cop says, she's in the wrong, then she goes home, no incident, and then dies the next day, but they won't say why.
01:25:55.000But the propaganda got out there at the right time.
01:25:57.000And it took me watching all 30-something minutes of this video to actually be like, okay, well, big if true, that would have been terrible.
01:26:28.000But again, more to the point, England banning puberty blockers is a massive move, and I'm wondering what you guys think.
01:26:37.000I don't know how health officials in the United States can maintain a position in support of this when we're already seeing Scandinavian countries back away and now England is banning it.
01:26:45.000Yeah, I think that's exactly the correct framing of this.
01:26:48.000How do you not only sleep at night, but also maintain your medical practice and continue to prescribe these things to kids that are not only having their lives fall apart, but killing themselves?
01:26:58.000You have all these medical consequences that are demonstrated that prompt things like this, the banning of it in foreign countries.
01:27:06.000We're just told that it won't move because we don't have the political will or because we're misunderstanding or this is insensitive.
01:27:13.000We're on the wrong side of history on this, frankly.
01:27:17.000Yeah, it's time for us to get our act together.
01:27:19.000So is this the argument for why Biden shouldn't be criminally charged and you should let the Democrats run amok?
01:27:27.000You know, one thing I was saying back in 2018 and 19 was that there was actually a benefit that Republicans were getting, conservatives were getting out of the censorship of Facebook and Twitter.
01:27:38.000The way I describe it is, you see a woman and she has two kids and she's walking with them holding their hands.
01:27:44.000The kid on the left is covered in chocolate sauce and he's just filthy disgusting.
01:27:49.000The kid on the right is wearing a nice little suit and he looks completely clean.
01:27:54.000You might think, wow, that kid covered in chocolate is a bad kid, right?
01:27:59.000When in reality, it's that the mother only enforces the rules against the kid to her right.
01:28:04.000So when they both go into the ice cream shop, and the kid wearing the nice little suit says, can I have ice cream?
01:28:14.000Then when they go on public, you see the left all messy and the right normal looking and clean.
01:28:18.000And you think the right must be better.
01:28:20.000When Twitter started banning the most egregious actors on the right, it actually just created a public perception of a bunch of right-wing individuals as being fairly moderate and respectable.
01:28:32.000So that's, that, I would say that's the argument why Republicans are kind of like, let's just do nothing.
01:28:36.000Because the left looks psychotic and eventually they'll break themselves.
01:28:39.000Yeah, well, I think the issue there in that approach is that the only platform that we even moderately have content moderation control over is X. And even there, you know, we're basically... I'd say that's not true at all.
01:28:51.000It's like the only people we're talking to on X is ourselves, right?
01:28:54.000Like we're in this little in-group and you look at Instagram, you look at Facebook, they still control the narrative.
01:28:59.000And so you allow this thing to persist and they'll frame the puberty blockers as a win.
01:29:04.000And that it's a good thing that these kids are getting them.
01:29:06.000And, like, the counter-message never sees the light of day, and we might talk about it amongst ourselves on shows like this, but the average person is not exposed to the message.
01:29:18.000But the reality of X is that it is still a far-leftist platform.
01:29:23.000The misgendering policy is a perfect example.
01:29:26.000Look, conservatives are centrists, and maybe that's their benefit, because it'll result in Trump winning, but I really don't know that I would agree, because there's no one arguing for the morals, there's no strong conservative argument against the left, it's always a moderate position.
01:29:41.000The right says, don't ban people, the left says, ban our enemies.
01:29:44.000Where is the right to say ban our enemies?
01:29:59.000Why doesn't X say, if you call someone by a pronoun that doesn't align with their biological sex, we'll ban you?
01:30:03.000Yeah, I really, you know, it's an interesting point.
01:30:06.000The X thing started out great, you know, like the transition, it was awesome.
01:30:10.000And now here we are back with this misgendering policy and it begs that question that we always come to is like, why can't we have good things, right?
01:30:17.000And it's because you never commit to the mission.
01:30:33.000No, honestly, I'm banned on TikTok as well, which is a whole other story.
01:30:37.000But on X, during that transition, it was the case, right?
01:30:43.000There was this final ban wave, like 11,000 plus accounts get taken offline, including congressional staffers, including everybody, it's swept under the rug.
01:31:39.000Sorry, that is outside of social acceptance, so we're going to, it's offensive to many people, so we're going to shadow ban you for doing that.
01:31:48.000Yeah, I mean, like, we need a presence in these trust and safety rooms, right?
01:31:51.000I mean, think about the composition of these tech companies.
01:31:54.000There might be conservative coders, right?
01:31:56.000And, you know, they do some great things for us.
01:31:58.000But at the very end of the day, the final say goes to this trust and safety team, and they're governed entirely by these, like, you know, Far leftists that come from places like Sarah Lawrence or, you know, one of these liberal arts schools and they sit in there forever because they realize the power they have and they never hire a conservative and we never get a fair fight.
01:32:16.000And, you know, we have to start infiltrating beyond just like the engineer team.
01:32:20.000We have to, you know, reach every level of these social media companies to start pushing them back our direction.
01:32:35.000It's going to be interesting going forward, especially with all the talk of the AI stuff, because I'm wondering if we get to the point where it doesn't matter anymore.
01:32:43.000I think it's entirely possible that we're in the dead internet as it is, and it's entirely possible that the majority of accounts on X that you're talking to are AI.
01:33:05.000And so the only missing link at this time is automating that copy and pasting, uh, for the average user, but every other like state actor and these big corporations already has that.
01:33:13.000And so I'm pretty sure you can get the, uh, open, uh, open AI API and probably create about a hundred percent very easily to talk to people, answer questions.
01:33:47.000So we create this massive planetary machine and give it the ability to process all this information, it will start telling us how to build whatever we want to build.
01:33:57.000You'll be like, I want a jetpack that can fly for at least two hours, safety features, and it will just design it for you.
01:34:06.000There will be no longer a human mind required to design it, the AI will just do it.
01:34:10.000Yeah, we'll just make it you'll say we need to wait.
01:34:12.000Hey, here's our car design Make it more fuel efficient and then it will redesign it and give you the perfect car design Yeah, I think the real concern in that framing is that you won't have access to that tool.
01:34:24.000These mega-corporations who are developing the product will have this god mode that allows them the full access, the full power, and you'll get this dumbed-down version that keeps you essentially locked into your economic class.
01:34:34.000You're just permanently trapped there, and they have all of these profit-generating tools available, solving the great mysteries of the world, and they're able to just print money, and you're trapped.
01:34:43.000It will know how to make anything any consistency and any flavor and so you will effectively have you'll end up with this machine and it will have something called like they'll call it like biomass and they'll say you know this machine can take biomass and it can 3d print any meal and so once once the AI figures out Once we reach the singularity, where the AI can improve its own code, and it will rapidly expand, collect all available data from the internet, it will be able to be like, here's how you can make a food 3D printer, and the biomass will be roaches, and you'll press a button, you'll say, I want to eat something that tastes like a bacon McRib, and it will program the chemicals that it needs to make the McRib, and it will
01:35:29.000And then it will heat it up and you'll have, you know, barbecue rib and you'll be like, wow, this tastes great.
01:35:33.000You won't even realize it's roaches or crickets or something.
01:35:36.000I mean, it's like, we're essentially handing over the universe as we know it and giving it to a new architect, one of these mega corporations, and just saying like, go for it.
01:35:58.000I mean, you give them Sora, you give them UBI because you don't have to go to work three days of the week or whatever because of automation.
01:36:04.000We're already at the point where, you know, we're looking at these coffee machines where it's got a screen and you can just touch it.
01:36:10.000Whatever coffee you want, we'll make it.
01:36:22.000And, like, sure, we've had these kinds of things before, but no, it legit could make... I was like, I want a mochaccino with extra foam, and, you know, a little bit of sugar or whatever, and then it's like, makes it.
01:36:50.000Someone made a really good point that I did not consider before, that unemployment is a good thing.
01:36:54.000You need 3-4% unemployment so that people can move between jobs.
01:36:57.000If there is zero unemployment, you have a rigid society where everyone's locked into a job, and that creates problems where there's unhappiness and people need to move around.
01:37:06.000If we build these AI robots that can do any job to get rid of unemployment, then eventually you just get rid of jobs.
01:37:13.000So, uh, I can't remember what happened.
01:37:16.000Something happened at the Oscars where there was like an AI ad or something and they all booed.
01:37:26.000I told, uh, I think it was Google Gemini.
01:37:29.000Someone posted this thing saying, write a poem in the style of, insert person, and when they tried to do it for me, it said I can't do that.
01:37:35.000So I asked Gemini, write a poem in the style of Tim Pool, and it did, and it wrote a really good one.
01:37:52.000And the fascinating thing is the left lies about what we talk about.
01:37:54.000So the AI was actually aware of the contents of the show, probably because it transcribes everything we say into text and then puts it into its database.
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01:38:48.000David Wilkin says, Second, and while I'm sure it tasted goody, chili is made with mammals and has less than 20% beans in it, otherwise it isn't chili.
01:38:56.000Are you referring to our rooster chili?
01:39:00.000It certainly was a chili, otherwise I don't know what you'd call it.
01:39:02.000It was chili, and we put rooster in it.
01:40:36.000I couldn't imagine what it must be like to be someone who saw a cycle every couple of years of Bitcoin going up, seeing mass adoption, countries adopting it, and then be like, but I'm not going to even try to buy any of that.
01:40:51.000I couldn't imagine that, because I did buy it ten years ago, and now it's worth a lot of money.
01:41:00.000Maybe I'll go disappear and retire with my cryptocurrency.
01:41:04.000But it's kind of crazy to me that there are a lot of people who are tweeting, like, no, don't buy it, it's worthless, it'll go to zero, and all this stuff.
01:41:10.000And I'm like, I don't know, a lot of stocks can go to zero, I guess.
01:41:14.000I mean, the only pathway to zero is essentially our government regulates it to death, right?
01:41:24.000I think there's a lot of fear-mongering coming from Treasury under this administration that, you know, we're going to crack down, but it hasn't happened.
01:41:30.000It doesn't even matter, though, because, like, El Salvador uses it as a national currency at this point.
01:41:37.000You know, so I have people saying to me, like, you better sell, and I was like, for me, Bitcoin would have to drop to a thousand-something for me to lose money.
01:41:45.000And so I'm kind of just like, oh, whatever.
01:42:47.000Ricky says, Flappy Bird can be banned simply from the Play Store making a decision, but somehow banning TikTok requires an act of Congress.
01:43:04.000Yeah, I mean, there's been dozens of letters from Congress asking them to delist the application, outlining all these same issues, and they just haven't done it.
01:44:15.000So the new cat that we got, it's really interesting, around the time that Mr. Bocas became ill, a cat was born.
01:44:24.000He looks like Tom from Tom and Jerry, and then just under a year, so this is December, he was living in our garage, and I captured him, we gave him Stockholm Syndrome, and then we removed his testicles, and now we have dominion over him.
01:46:54.000We do not want communists to infiltrate our institutions and infect the minds of our children.
01:47:00.000It's one of the biggest things we're fighting right now in the culture war is stopping the schools from having these communists bring this awful pornographic content to kids.
01:47:07.000And that's what TikTok does, in some form or another.
01:47:11.000And so the issue is, like, we don't gotta ban it.
01:47:13.000We just have to take away their ability to control that algorithm.
01:47:25.000It's like, at the very least, lawyers in this country can sue and file FOIA requests, and we were able to do that to get information from Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter.
01:48:24.000And then as I was leaving the workout session today with the trainer, we have a box that's been sitting in what is effectively our mail room for months, for like four months, and it's a cold plunge that we've never set up.
01:48:40.000And the top of the box is shredded to bits.
01:48:46.000Because that was Bocas's nail-sharpening box, and he just, over time scratching it, carved a huge hole, and so we're going to frame that panel from the box, and, uh, there's another little sign on the door that says to keep the door closed, or our, you know- Mischief escape artist, something like that.
01:49:05.000Yeah, we'll get out, and so we're gonna put that with the box, and we're gonna frame it, and we're gonna hang it up, and that's gonna be his little memorial thing.
01:49:15.000And I was surprised to learn that Mr. Bocas was trending nationwide on X. So I want to give a thank you to everybody on X. I tweeted that Mr. Bocas passed, and it got something like 2,000 retweets.
01:49:28.000And a lot of people who had come by the show, who had met him, posted as well.
01:49:33.000And it is an honor and a privilege to all of you.
01:49:37.000To have so many friends who shared photos of Mr. Bocas and said, rest in peace, to the extent that it resulted in a nationwide trend, Mr. Bocas.
01:49:47.000And then someone sent it to me and I was like, whoa, I didn't even check.
01:49:51.000But what happened was when I tweeted it and got thousands of retweets, tons of very high profile accounts and people had been in the show had retweeted it and posted as well, Mr. Bocas, that resulted in a massive trend.
01:50:35.000So is there a risk that after they've passed the bill, the bill will be modified in a very bad way and wouldn't have to be passed again after being amended?
01:50:43.000No, it would have to go through the procedure again.
01:50:45.000I think the risk here is that the current bill could go to a committee like Commerce, and Commerce could derail the effort.
01:51:03.000I'd be the first one out there, but we are on a pathway of this bill in this current state clearing and then it is set in stone and it would take an act of Congress to amend it and it would all be public.
01:51:12.000We'd all be able to track it and you'd be able to call your Congress.
01:51:15.000Yeah, I don't understand this argument for people who are like, oh no, they're coming for our free speech and I was like China's.
01:51:20.000Like they're coming for China's free speech in our country with a massive multinational corporation that is telling our young people to sterilize themselves?
01:52:42.000I Might actually be like, okay Well, you have to allow people to walk towards the light if you don't they'll walk towards darkness But as far as I know, he's not done that He's just being given all these great positions and this he's being given a path to redemption without apology or acceptance of a responsibility So not a fan of any of that If he came out and was like, here's what CNN did, like blew the whistle and exposed it.
01:53:05.000If he was like, CNN made me do the quarantine thing and here's what they said to me and here's why I did it and I was under contract so I couldn't say anything.
01:53:12.000I'd be like, okay, well, you know, it's a good thing that he's talking about all this, addressing it and exposing it, but he's not doing that.
01:53:18.000So for now, he's just another lying scumbag.
01:54:19.000Uh, I think once TikTok realized they were on the chopping block, they immediately started promoting, uh, out- This is my assumption of what is likely.
01:54:30.000But I'd imagine that they started promoting a bunch of young, more right-leaning personalities, so that they would build attachment to the platform, and then start defending it.
01:54:39.000So now, you have people who are like, I've got hundreds of thousands of followers on this platform, I don't wanna get banned.
01:54:45.000Like, I use this platform, what the- Yeah.
01:54:48.000Well, and what's really interesting, we were talking about this earlier, there's no way to verify the follower count that it's actually authentic.
01:54:54.000There is no way to verify the view count.
01:54:56.000You don't even know if it's a one-to-one view ratio, right?
01:56:03.000A view on iTunes is probably the... I believe podcast views are probably the most legitimate rating system in all of media.
01:56:12.000And it's apparent because of your sales metrics.
01:56:15.000So when we do sponsor spots on YouTube, it's like 10% of what iTunes pulls in.
01:56:20.000And I'm like, now how is that possible?
01:56:23.000If we're getting 200,000 on a YouTube clip with a promo, but we're only selling a tenth of what we sell on iTunes, well the reality is, YouTube views are weak.
01:56:39.000I don't know about TikTok, because we don't sell, we've never sold sponsored spots on it, but you sell a sponsored spot on a podcast, and you sell ten times as much.
01:56:48.000So if we did a, hey, buy coffee here, the overwhelming majority of people are coming from the podcast, which likely is indicative of people, the people who are watching on podcasts are actual human beings, they're actual unique human beings who are listening and watching the show, where YouTube, you probably have a lot of, I clicked it and then I clicked out.
01:57:07.000So it counts as a view, they hung around, they didn't really pay attention, whereas people who go on a podcast actually end up listening to the whole thing.
01:57:12.000So, like for instance, we get way more views on YouTube for Timcast IRL, but the revenue generated is... We get more views on YouTube, and so it's not proportional in terms of views, but based on the CPM, the Timcast IRL ads are way more than we could ever do on YouTube.
01:57:37.000So, in my view, what I know about TikTok, I would make the assumption that most of the views are fake.
01:57:45.000And so, the smartest thing China could do, or I should say these companies, is they're like, look, Trump supporters are advocating for our removal.
01:58:10.000If you have all of these, you know, great conservative influencers posting these, like, get out the vote videos, like, who's really going out there saying, I was told to vote in my congressional race by this TikTok influencer?
01:58:21.000In all likelihood, even if the views are real, they're probably going to a non-American English speaking country.
01:58:26.000That's the most likely, This is a great super chat from Mike Hillier.
01:58:30.000Says, I remember Tim yelling VPNs would be blocked by this bill yesterday till he was shown the bill by PSA Sitch.
01:58:35.000This is a great super chat from Mike Hillier.
01:58:37.000He says, I remember Tim yelling VPNs would be blocked by this bill yesterday till he
01:59:11.000That's only based off of the limited tweet by Thomas Massie, which did not provide actual context to anybody who follows him, so I'm very pissed off about that.
01:59:19.000And then I read it, and I was like, wait, wait, wait.
01:59:21.000It has to be a platform controlled by a foreign adversary, which is defined by Congress, which is one of four countries.
01:59:29.000You have to be able to create an account, log in, post content, share content, and others have to be able to log in and view that content.
01:59:36.000Okay, so VPNs are not subject to this.
01:59:39.000And it's basically owned, and it has to have a million users.
02:01:05.000And he was very lucky, rescued, and unfortunately, you know, as I've said a million times, his kidneys were underdeveloped, they were very small, and so they were working overtime, basically doing two times the work, which resulted in a shortened lifespan.
02:01:21.000So, you know, we were surprised that he was getting sick because cats actually have these really good kidneys.
02:01:25.000But older cats usually die of renal failure.
02:01:28.000And so when we found out that he was having renal failure, and we were like, how is this possible?
02:01:32.000He was like five years, he was four, five, he was four years old when...