Tik Tok is suing the Biden administration over a bill that would ban them from selling their app in the United States. Israel invades Rafah, and Stormy Daniels makes a joke out of the Trump hush money trial. Meanwhile, AstraZeneca pulls their cancer vaccine from the market in the US, citing market reasons.
00:00:00.000TikTok is suing the Biden administration over the bill to ban TikTok in this country saying
00:00:23.000they'd rather shut it down than sell it, which some people suggest or say suggests that they're
00:00:29.000more interested in TikTok as a weapon than they are a platform that can make them money.
00:00:34.000But it's also the counterargument TikTok being forced to sell means they're not going to be able to get a real, true value for the product.
00:00:48.000Biden, of course, withholding military aid to Israel potentially over this.
00:00:52.000And he did that anyway, but nothing seeming to stop Israel.
00:00:55.000And then we have the Stormy Daniels testimony in Trump's hush money trial, where apparently she got She offended the court.
00:01:03.000She was making a joke out of the trial, some have suggested, talking about disgusting and lurid things, to the point where Trump's team actually called for a mistrial.
00:01:27.000AstraZeneca has pulled their COVID vaccine entirely from the European market.
00:01:31.000They never brought it here in the U.S., but shortly after a story broke that they admitted in a lawsuit there were rare side effects, they are now pulling it entirely, citing market reasons.
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00:02:34.000Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Jay Dyer.
00:03:15.000Here's the big news from the Daily Mail.
00:03:17.000TikTok is suing the Biden administration over the law forcing a ban or sale from ByteDance.
00:03:23.000They say the platform's parent company ByteDance has accused Biden's administration of violating First Amendment rights by allegedly trying to silence the 170 million Americans who use a social media application.
00:03:33.000The bill was overwhelmingly passed by Congress and signed by Biden on April 24th, giving ByteDance until January 19th to sell TikTok or face a ban.
00:03:42.000It was driven by concerns that China could use the app to access American users' data.
00:04:38.000Worst case scenario, TikTok will be a website you can go to, and if you want to use it, it won't be on Apple because Apple's a closed operating system.
00:04:45.000It'll be on Android if you download an APK, but for all intents and purposes, it is a ban if they do not divest from China.
00:04:53.000So I love this official mainstream narrative that the real reason is they don't want China getting your data.
00:06:18.000So every company is connected to the government in the same way that Twitter had a former FBI lawyer had a desk, was their head lawyer.
00:06:30.000But with China, it's a little more overt than the United States.
00:06:32.000The United States would use soft power, would try to influence and pressure people just by being present, right?
00:06:39.000So the fact that the FBI was kind of in the office with Twitter meant that people at the offices of Twitter behaved a certain way.
00:06:49.000With the CCP, with China, it's not I'm in favor of the bill.
00:06:56.000very overt. They're like, you're going to do this. And so it's pretty obvious as to why they decided
00:07:03.000to go ahead and take the U.S. on in court as opposed to, you know, China, you don't have
00:07:07.000courts where you can fight the government. It's just there isn't an option. It's this way or we
00:07:12.000literally send the guys with the guns to shut you down in the U.S. At least they can try and fight.
00:07:16.000I'm in favor of the bill. What do you think, Jay?
00:07:19.000It's just like the other issues we were bringing up before the show.
00:07:23.000There's no easy answers on this because on the one hand, I could see this being an attempt at a hostile takeover in a corporate sense, but also at the same time, obviously these things are used for espionage and spying purposes.
00:07:36.000I know that every time I've tried to put something on TikTok, I get bans and strikes immediately.
00:07:40.000I've been banned multiple times for not breaking the rules.
00:07:44.000I put up one minor clip that had like a few seconds of Lord Voldemort, you can probably figure out who I'm talking about.
00:08:52.000And what we're learning is, it's not just TikTok, it's also Instagram, but this is still a large component of, we should not allow a foreign entity to be influencing our young people to the point where they're destroying their lives, especially with weird behaviors like this.
00:09:05.000Yeah, it does seem like it gets in their heads and promotes very strange trends.
00:09:11.000I think one of the biggest challenges is that the TikTok algorithm is so sophisticated, it's setting the standard for what all social media companies are going to do, right?
00:09:26.000But they can't really, as far as I can tell, they can't really replicate the distribution aspect of the algorithm, getting people to certain content as quickly as TikTok has been able to.
00:09:38.000And again, if that's ultimately controlled by a foreign entity, that's extremely dangerous.
00:09:42.000Yeah, and also a lot of people critique it by pointing out that what's shown in China is not what's shown to Western audiences, and that's on purpose.
00:09:50.000So they'll have long-form content that's actually positive messages about, like, having family and, you know, wholesome things, whereas what's shown here is this really short-form content that actually promotes T-R-A-N-S type things.
00:10:03.000Should we get super-conspiratorial and just assume that Instagram, YouTube Shorts, and TikTok are the solution to the long-form podcast alternative media problem for the Deep State?
00:10:15.000I'm half-kidding, but there's no reason for these platforms to decide that minute-long content is better than two-hour-long content.
00:10:23.000You had, you know, Joe Rogan burst on the scene with these long-form podcasts something like, what, 14 years ago?
00:10:31.000And these very long conversations become extremely popular.
00:10:34.000And then with YouTube throughout like 2016 into even today, still slowly less so today in the past couple of years, the content that was popular and promoted in the algorithm was 10 minutes plus.
00:10:47.000Now, I see channels that, there's one guy, he's got a great channel by the way, but all his videos are a minute long, and he got a million subscribers in like six months from making shorts because the algorithm is promoting this.
00:10:59.000But then what do you get if the only media you consume is flash in the pan, flip, flip, flip?
00:11:05.000You get people who don't actually know what's going on, they won't actually explore the issues, and this is mighty fine!
00:11:11.000If you're concerned about the rabble having access to sharing information and deep dives.
00:11:17.000Yeah, it reminds me of when people are like, oh, I know a lot about the story.
00:11:20.000And it's like, well, I read the headline of the story.
00:11:32.000I think it's really easy to damage your attention span and get addicted to short-form content.
00:11:36.000I think, remember when the whistleblowers from the big tech companies came out a few years ago, that Jason, I think Renier guy, the dude with the dreads, right?
00:11:45.000And he was talking about how they did specifically design the non-stop scrolling feed for that purpose.
00:11:52.000Their main purpose was to keep you on the app, which makes sense, but the idea is that you don't ever actually fixate and you know, ruminate on what you're reading, you're actually
00:12:05.000And I think there's something to that. And from a psychological perspective,
00:12:07.000because there were studies a while back, I remember Alex talking about it years ago, that
00:12:10.000people that listen to radio or to podcasts, long form, they tend to have a better retention span,
00:12:17.000they tend to have a lot higher IQ even, because they're actually engaging different parts of the
00:12:21.000brain that just a nonstop visual like this, you're not even like half of your brain is not being
00:12:26.000It's static. It's just garbled noise and random nonsense.
00:12:31.000Especially when you're doing the thing where you just swipe to the next video and getting the algorithmic feed.
00:12:35.000You know, when I'm on Instagram, I'm sitting there on a toilet or whatever, I go to my recommendation tab and I get this big spattering of random garbage.
00:12:42.000And they're always trying to feed you something.
00:12:43.000But all I end up watching is just like, right now I think I'm watching a lot of like skiing and snowboarding videos and skateboarding videos.
00:12:51.000But you look at this big map of content and you choose to watch one thing at a time.
00:12:56.000And so there's still a sort of through line in that when you look at it that way.
00:13:00.000But a lot of people aren't even doing that now.
00:13:02.000What's happening is with Reels on Instagram is they'll watch a podcast clip and then swipe to the next one.
00:13:06.000My favorite phenomenon out of all this is the fake podcast.
00:13:11.000People will make an Instagram short where they'll buy a mic arm.
00:13:15.000Put it in front of them and then talk to the wall and they'll say something like, no, no, no, quite literally, they will turn the camera on and immediately go, well, you can't actually say that.
00:13:25.000I mean, if you look at the economy today, we know that Biden is responsible for the inflation.
00:13:35.000And then it gets like a million views.
00:13:37.000It's a fake podcast clip because it's probably born out of clips from like Joe Rogan because people would clip his show and then people realized.
00:14:17.000Just like the overlords want it, you know?
00:14:18.000I mean, this is what I find disheartening about all of this, which is, like, instead of encouraging people to pursue things they're really interested in, like, you know, my Instagram feed is a lot of, like, house, you know, DIY, whatever stuff.
00:14:33.000It's constantly bombarding you with this stuff, but it's not a lot of information.
00:14:36.000None of these things are designed to give you, well, this is the exact tool that you need.
00:14:41.000And so if you're a young person and your feed is being, is delivering you what you think is news, but it's actually just like fake podcasts and half a headline, you may feel as though you are informed, but actually you are barely on the surface of any issue you've now just devoted, created an emotional attachment to.
00:14:57.000Most people that surf the little bite-sized content things like your TikToks, like your shorts, like your reels, they have a similar knowledge of the topics that they're willing to engage on, as in they have just a wavetop basic understanding.
00:15:16.000And I think you see that Uh demonstrated with the the protesters pretty clearly most of the protesters don't know why they're protesting and the ones that do that can actually articulate a sentence or two about why it's very very um
00:15:34.000It sounds like they're repeating something from a textbook that they read.
00:15:37.000It doesn't sound like they're ideas that they have.
00:15:40.000And I think that that's emblematic of the type of content that those people are consuming.
00:15:47.000Because it's not saying that everyone does.
00:15:49.000I just think that it matches up with people that don't really know what they're talking about but have significant emotional attachment to a topic or whatever.
00:15:59.000But they don't have deep knowledge of it, whereas people that have deep knowledge of it that'll spend the time to learn about it, they might have significant emotional attachment to it, but it's not gonna be the kind of reactionary, emotional outburst kind of attachment.
00:16:10.000I think the scary thing is that a good portion of the videos on TikTok and Instagram are AI-generated, where people will load a clip.
00:16:20.000There's like a service you can get that will make these videos for you, and the robot voice, you choose what voice you want, and then it will just read a script, And so it's all these cookie-cutter prefab videos where they'll take a viral clip, add an AI voice narrator, and then re-upload it to the platform.
00:16:44.000I was doing a bunch of research on the Diddy thing, and I came across endless YouTube videos that were uploaded of AI voice commenting on this week, Diddy did this, did this.
00:16:56.000And it's like, not real content, not real information.
00:16:59.000It reminds me of a TED Talk that one of the tech guys, I don't remember who it was, but several years back,
00:17:04.000there was a TED Talk about gamification.
00:17:06.000Everybody should watch that because the guy was saying that the future will be based on video game studies
00:17:12.000that were done where the dopamine hit that everybody got from like when you're playing a game,
00:17:17.000you unlock an achievement, that dopamine hit becomes the model
00:17:20.000that the tech companies would use in their algorithm for social media.
00:17:25.000So that's the explanation for all of this is that they know that when you see that, you get that hit.
00:17:31.000And so now you're like addicted to the non-stop constant hit.
00:17:34.000But then the more you do it, it's a feedback loop that you're not getting the dopamine that you originally got.
00:17:41.000Like the people say because you can endlessly swipe and swipe and swipe and like you're just searching for the next match or whatever else which may or may not give you a sense of dopamine.
00:17:48.000Like we are designed to always be looking for the next thing but to be moving very quickly through it.
00:18:58.000His thing was like he would read the first sentence and then like the last sentence of the book and then that was like the speed reading way to master every book.
00:19:05.000But what was the service he was offering people?
00:19:32.000I don't remember what happened to that case.
00:19:35.000I think your idea with Arby's is kind of interesting because Democratic-leaning get-out-the-vote efforts will get on dating apps and be like, hey, have you registered to vote?
00:19:44.000And a lot of times guys are like, I don't know, I could.
00:19:47.000It's how long until influencer culture kind of collides with the dating app and they're like, hey, if you get five guys to buy you Arby's, we'll give you $1,000.
00:19:54.000And she's just on there being like, you want to go to Arby's?
00:19:58.000That's that's the voter registration thing now.
00:20:00.000You know, it's going to be like, Republicans are going to start going on dating apps, women, and they're going to be like, you want to meet up?
00:20:41.000They could make a lot of money, possibly, or just create a weird influencer network.
00:20:44.000We're going to live in the pod and we're going to eat the bugs, whether anyone wants to or not, because all of society is going to move into the pods and they're going to buy the bugs and the market's going to drift away from cheeseburgers and drift towards roach burgers.
00:20:54.000The thing is, there's a lot of people that are going to be like, oh, I'm going to go ahead and live in the pod.
00:21:02.000There's going to be a lot of people that'll be like, this is actually better, because For a lot of people on Earth, the pod is actually a better option than their real life.
00:21:29.000But if you're in like Rwanda or a war-torn place or whatever and you have the option of kind of hunkering down in a pod and not going out into places where you can, you know, be killed and you can stay in the pod and do some kind of menial task or whatever it is that produces you enough money to keep you in the pod.
00:21:45.000I don't know if that's possible or whatever but that option is a better option than rape, you know, or death, you know, or torture.
00:21:53.000If you were, like, seriously impoverished, if you have nothing around you, if they're like, we could just be in this pod, it's got air conditioning, and it's, you know, less risk of death, then maybe you would be like, okay.
00:22:03.000I gotta be honest, it might not even have air conditioning, but you'll have the neural implant, so you won't know the difference.
00:22:20.000You can get them at, like, Home Depot.
00:22:21.000But I do, I really legit think that, like, most people that are like, no, I won't go and, like, live in the pod, they're comparing it to, like, a generally good life.
00:22:31.000You get some depressed people that aren't having a great life here in the US and they're
00:22:35.000like, well, maybe the pod's not so bad.
00:22:37.000You talk to people that have miserable lives, that they can take the daily drudgery of essentially
00:22:43.000shoving rocks uphill all day long or live in the pod.
00:22:48.000How do you think they'll market the pods?
00:22:50.000Will the pods be sort of like a wellness, self-care thing?
00:23:17.000It'll be video game and community stuff.
00:23:19.000So they tried doing it with Metaverse, but you had no legs, and you were like this weird Muppet floating around, like a Wii figure, and people didn't like it.
00:23:26.000So they got to improve that, but... I mean, I'm not saying that, like, it's a preferable option, but, you know, that is something that I really do think a lot of people would select the pod over.
00:23:39.000you know, the struggles of life. Yeah, especially if you've got a crappy life,
00:23:43.000but that's, you know, you do if you're because a lot of life is suffering, man, a lot of your life
00:23:48.000is suffering. And a lot of people that are not in Western countries, a lot more of their life
00:23:53.000is suffering than people in the in Western countries. And that's a that's that's one way
00:23:57.000to write like a sci fi in the vein of the matrix, but in a different way.
00:24:01.000How about instead of The Matrix being some guy shows up in weird, you know, like techno clothes and offers you a pill, you and your friends are playing video games one day.
00:24:12.000You go to the store and then all of a sudden as you're walking you can't move and you're like, what's happening?
00:24:15.000And there's a flicker and then all of a sudden you're in a pod with a tube in your mouth and everyone wakes up from the VR they put themselves in.
00:24:22.000The system went down, and everyone's groaning in agony and pain, just moaning like, No!
00:24:31.000And then, what happens when all of these humans climb out of the pod?
00:24:36.000With no knowledge of how the system works, no idea how to farm, humans put themselves in the pod to give them this eternal happiness, and then the machine breaks, and everyone's forced out of it.
00:24:46.000There's a sci-fi movie kind of like that. I'm ruining every one of Tim's ideas. I'm like,
00:24:50.000I'm sorry. That's already a title. No, there's a movie called the Congress,
00:24:55.000which is a really good sci-fi story with Robin Wright from a princess bride where
00:25:00.000she gets the corporation scans her whole body as an actress, and then they own her image.
00:25:06.000And then it fast forwards into the future. Basically everyone lives in the pod like
00:25:09.000you're talking about, but they're walking around like in tattered rags
00:25:19.000Well, uh, let's shift away and we'll start talking about news again, I guess, because we've got funny news.
00:25:24.000Creepy, funny, and sad for this country.
00:25:26.000The Stormy Daniels testimony so lurid it almost derailed Trump's trial.
00:25:31.000How porn star's lively claims about spanking condoms, SCDs, and the missionary position sparked a slew of objections before the judge called her difficult to control.
00:25:44.000It was bad enough when it went from, there's a strife in this country and a conflict between political factions, into one political faction is trying to put the other political faction in prison, and now, in the effort to put the former president, who is currently the frontrunner, in prison, a porn star got on trial and started talking about spanking condoms, STDs, and the missionary position.
00:26:03.000This is the sad direction the United States has gone.
00:26:07.000And I assure you, if you went to the founding fathers and said, this is where we would be in 250 years, they'd probably throw up on the floor.
00:26:14.000I don't think they'd throw up on the floor because of the behavior of the, uh, uh, because of the president or the, the insults, um, at least, uh, but you know, they were calling each other hermaphrodites and stuff like that.
00:26:26.000The idea that, that, I just feel like they wouldn't have put Stormy Daniels on the stand.
00:26:30.000They're like, look, you're a woman of loose morals, like, you're not going to help anybody's case.
00:26:34.000I imagine there would have been a whole lot more hushing around that time, you know, with those kind of behaviors.
00:26:39.000That list of terms there that was supposed to be super lurid is pretty common for sexual coitus conversations.
00:26:46.000I don't think there's anything that lurid in that.
00:26:48.000I mean, maybe there's more in the testimony I haven't heard.
00:26:50.000Did that say spank Trump with a roll up newspaper?
00:29:17.000This is what I hate about this case, which is the prosecution can walk it all the way to Michael Cohen, but they cannot definitively link Trump.
00:29:25.000But they're still like, but election interference.
00:29:27.000But even if they do link him, there's still no crime.
00:29:30.000Yeah, it doesn't seem bad, especially since this, like, catch and kill, like, don't let the story out, it had been a rumor for a long time.
00:29:38.000You know, I don't think it's that big of a deal.
00:29:40.000What I heard today, I think it was on NBC, was like, well, the Trump campaign thought that his campaign could not withstand another sex scandal in the wake of the state.
00:29:53.000I don't think you understand the Trump campaign.
00:30:42.000Yeah, I don't think that Trump is necessarily a saint all the time, but because she has been so ridiculous with her story going back and forth, it does not make me believe this, you know?
00:30:52.000It doesn't make me think that they had an affair.
00:30:53.000I think always this was sort of a payday for her, especially because she came after a different model who had also been like, I also had an affair, and then Stormy Dunst was like, me too, as it turns out.
00:31:04.000I never thought of it as, like, an affair.
00:31:06.000I thought they were just, like, they just had sex.
00:31:08.000Like, I thought it was more like, you know, she was an adult performer, and he was like, you know, how much do you get for an adult performance?
00:31:15.000Would you do an adult performance with me?
00:31:18.000I don't know that it was a deeply romantic accusation that Stormy Daniel made, but the idea is that he didn't pay her for it.
00:31:25.000He just, she is saying they just had sex on multiple occasions.
00:31:27.000I think this, with Stormy Daniels, kind of exposes what's really going on.
00:31:31.000They're trying to use this opportunity to make up things that can't be disproven to embarrass and insult Trump.
00:31:37.000She's saying things like, it was brief, and I didn't even know it was happening, and here's how my leg was, just trying to attack the integrity of Trump.
00:31:45.000Also, by the way, I wasn't, I'm going from memory here, I might not be remembering perfectly, but wasn't she connected to the NXIVM cult?
00:31:51.000And the NXIVM cult had a very, they were getting money from the Dems, I'm pretty sure.
00:32:07.000I think, okay, so when I was driving over and PR was reporting on the estate, clips from the trial of Stormy Daniels, they're quoting her saying like, oh, you know, I was sober, but when we had this encounter, I blacked out and da da da.
00:32:18.000Like what I think they're trying to do is continue this narrative that he is like some terrible monster who abuses women, building off these like allegations that EJ and Carol brought forward.
00:32:30.000To continue this narrative of, like, he is a dangerous predator and you cannot have him anywhere near the White House because all of these cases are starting to fall apart.
00:32:40.000Again, like I said, it's very hard for me to get past the fact that she owes Trump money, she has confessed to it, and then recanted.
00:32:46.000Like, I just don't think she is a credible witness.
00:32:49.000So this is interesting to say the defense saw their moment after lunch asking the judge for a mistrial on the grounds that her testimony had raised all sorts of extra questions in the jurors' minds.
00:32:58.000Quote, this is the kind of testimony that makes it impossible to come back from, said defense lawyer Todd Blanche.
00:33:02.000How can we come back from this in a way that's fair to President Trump?
00:33:06.000There was no need for her to mention that Trump did not wear a condom, other than to inflame the jury.
00:33:11.000Merchant ruled there was no mistrial, but the defense did have a point, he added.
00:33:14.000There were several things that would have been better left unsaid, he said.
00:33:19.000In fact, he added that he had raised his own objection when the defense had failed to intervene.
00:33:23.000In fairness to the prosecution, I think the witness was a little difficult to control, he said.
00:33:27.000That might be the only thing that he and Trump, who has been a disgruntled defendant from day one, would ever agree on.
00:33:35.000I think, Stormy, they're saying it's going to take, what, like another two weeks to conclude the prosecution's case.
00:33:41.000And then we have to go through defense arguments.
00:33:43.000In which they have not once shown what the crime is or done anything other than waste Trump's time and try to embarrass him.
00:33:51.000Yeah, I'm not sure what the actual, like, this is for sexual assault?
00:33:55.000No, it's for falsifying business documents.
00:33:58.000In furtherance of a crime they've not outlined.
00:34:02.000They've claimed it's election interference, but a New York state election law has jurisdiction only over state elections, nothing federal.
00:34:10.000So they're contorting this in a way that makes literally no sense.
00:34:14.000I think the goal is they want Trump's – I think they may just think The longer Trump's name is in the news, in court for a crime related to sex, the more that makes him look bad.
00:34:37.000All Trump's gotta do is come out and just say, it was the best spanking ever, it was a great spanking, I'm gonna make spanking great again!
00:34:58.000And furthermore, Biden is so bad at being president that even if Trump did cheat on one of his wives with this tour of the Daniels or whatever, you know, I think people would forgive that for him.
00:35:10.000Biden is bad at existing, and he makes everyone's life difficult.
00:35:16.000And also, please don't put Biden back in the White House.
00:35:18.000I think everyone, even people who are on the fence, like, this isn't something that's going to converge him, which is why her testimony that, like, implying there was some sort of power issue is what they're trying to do to scare female voters, like, into supporting her.
00:35:30.000It would be cool if you were right, or if I agreed with you, but I really don't think that- Of course you agree with me, you always agree with me.
00:35:37.000And the reason I don't agree with you is because I don't agree with you that Biden is so vulnerable, I guess is the thing.
00:35:43.000Just because of the Democrats' ballot collection and organization and groundwork.
00:35:52.000I really think 2020 gave the Democrats, they set it up so that way the ballot harvesting Procedure was something that they, they capitalized on.
00:36:02.000And I think that they've really got the lock on that.
00:36:05.000And I think that the Republican, that's the thing that the Republicans have to worry about.
00:36:09.000It's not so much about whether or not people like Donald Trump or Joe Biden more, it's whether or not they're going to be able to collect the votes.
00:36:18.000I think at this point, or I should say, I think it's fair to say that you walk up to a random person and you ask them honestly, You know, if it came down to it, you have two presidents, one who's gonna get you paid but is a dick, and one who is a moron and won't get you paid, we know what they're gonna say.
00:36:40.000If you go to the average person and ask them, what do you care more about?
00:36:42.000A president with good demeanor and honor and integrity?
00:36:46.000Or a president who might be the worst human being who craps all over the floor, but he puts a hundred bucks in your pocket?
00:37:54.000Yeah, I think if, you know, I say greed, but there's varying degrees.
00:37:59.000I would say that, like, the extreme version of greed is someone, to the detriment of everyone around them, siphons away resources watching someone starve or something like that.
00:38:07.000But for the most part, rational self-interest is a good way to put it.
00:38:10.000So this is why Joe Biden is paying off student loan debt, illegally, in violation of basically every branch, the all other branch of government.
00:38:43.000If he doesn't win, they're not going to cancel your debt.
00:38:45.000You could get $40,000 today if you simply vote for Joe Biden, enter our sweepstakes called Vote Democrat, and maybe you could be a lucky winner.
00:38:55.000It's a version of a chicken in every pot.
00:38:57.000from like FDR period. Chicken in every pot. But Biden's student loan forgiveness has been held
00:39:03.000up in court for a long time. I mean, it's not like he's just like, no more loans, bye guys.
00:39:08.000It's a huge bureaucratic issue. A lot of people object, a lot of states object to how it's being
00:39:13.000rolled out. So he is getting the headlines. Oh, I forgave your student loans.
00:39:18.000But the reality is that it's not as widespread as the Biden administration would like it to be.
00:39:24.000And on top of that, you know, there's reports out that 18 to 24 year olds have higher credit card debt than generations or the same age group in years previously.
00:39:34.000The weight of the economic burden that I feel like the Biden administration has inflicted on the people is sort of inescapable.
00:39:41.000He's not gonna be able to forgive enough loans and actually see the loans forgiven before the election to make that compelling enough for everybody, I think.
00:39:48.000So now the big piece of this story, moving forward, Axios reports Trump's threat of being jailed suddenly gets real.
00:39:56.000The Secret Service has been having meetings about the high probability that Trump is going to be held in contempt and sent to jail.
00:40:05.000And this is a game of chicken that I think Trump is intentionally playing.
00:40:08.000He played the card I hoped he was going to play in that the Constitution is more important and I'd be willing to make that sacrifice.
00:40:16.000That's what he said when he was walking into the court.
00:40:18.000He'd be willing to make that sacrifice for the Constitution.
00:40:21.000And I'm like, I'm not so sure insulting a porn star constitutes defending the Constitution, but the point he's making is stronger than the reality of what's happening in that courtroom.
00:40:32.000And that is the judge is silencing his ability to speak during a campaign And he reserves the right to campaign and stand for his First Amendment rights, no matter how silly and absurd it may be, even if it means he goes to jail.
00:40:45.000But I think Trump's bet is they won't do it.
00:40:48.000And he makes the court look impotent by continuing to piss them off, knowing that if they put him in jail, it could actually bump him up in the polls quite a bit.
00:40:58.000How do you think Trump going to jail would react?
00:41:01.000I think it would be like the greatest, like, Publicity event of all time and that he would totally
00:41:11.000It would be total... But why doesn't he... He could have gone to the Supreme Court oral arguments.
00:41:18.000I understand the legal team's statements they've made.
00:41:22.000They didn't want Trump to go because it would have made the arguments about Trump, and they wanted it to remain about the broad presidency instead, which is better for Trump.
00:41:30.000But certainly Trump could take actions that would expedite his path towards imprisonment.
00:41:38.000I think he can't look like he's intentionally trying to aggravate the judge, right?
00:41:46.000Or intentionally trying to go to jail.
00:41:48.000He has to be the martyr, which he's already set himself up for.
00:41:53.000His typical conduct is being held against him while, again, Michael Cohen, Stormy Daniels are being allowed to talk about the case on social media in a way that hurts him.
00:42:05.000And I think that was what resonates with the American voters, this idea that the judicial system is not actually to protect anybody.
00:42:11.000It's actually to silence some people as they try to advocate for themselves.
00:42:14.000I think that message really resonates with a lot of Americans.
00:42:18.000And it's enough to say like, hey, this is not OK.
00:42:21.000I also think that, you know, Look, when he had to go down and get his mug shot, and they immediately released those t-shirts?
00:42:29.000The fundraising on this alone would be incredible.
00:42:31.000That's what the Democrats are really afraid of, because they saw the reaction for the mug shot, and you know if he goes to jail it's gonna be a similar thing, and it'll probably be significantly more intense.
00:42:46.000Do you think they regret bringing this criminal case against Trump?
00:42:54.000I think where we are right now, they're trapped in this position where they're thinking like, we really shouldn't have done this, but we have no path forward.
00:43:02.000I think that if it wasn't for the fact that everything has gone so badly for this administration, so the international stuff, the economy, things have not gone the way that the Biden administration would have liked, and I think that If it wasn't for that fact, if things had gone better for the Biden administration, they'd be much more comfortable about what's going on with Trump.
00:43:23.000But I think because of the significant failures of the Biden administration in the eyes of most Americans, I think that they're really not happy about the fact that where things are because of the administration's results.
00:43:42.000You know, I think it all again comes down to Alvin Bragg, because if I'm remembering correctly, and I'll fact check myself on this in a second, multiple offices have been like, no, don't bring this case.
00:43:54.000And, you know, occasionally this gets presented as like, oh, well, when Trump was presidency, they didn't want to bring this against him because they're protecting him.
00:44:00.000But if I'm remembering correctly, Alvin Bragg, when he was the head of the district attorney's office, also turned down the case initially.
00:44:06.000So the idea that like as the last minute when they're stacking all these cases against and they're like and we'll just throw this one on too.
00:44:12.000I almost wonder if they thought they would have Trump imprisoned by now and that this wouldn't matter as much.
00:44:18.000I feel like there's an overlooked element that a lot of this domain is a bunch of boomers and they don't understand the internet and they don't understand like people watching this stuff and the Streisand effect and that it doesn't work and they just keep doubling down.
00:44:31.000Whether it's Ukraine or whatever, people keep doubling down on these things from the establishment, from the system, and they just don't understand why it's not working.
00:44:39.000I don't want to change the subject, but there was a clip of a big graduating class at a university, and somebody in the speech mentioned Bitcoin.
00:44:48.000The entire graduating class, the whole university, basically booed the guy.
00:44:52.000And I'm like, so the university system is basically churning out these completely brainwashed people.
00:44:58.000They have no idea what's really going on.
00:44:59.000There's this whole other subset of people on the internet, on Twitter, on X, that know what's going on.
00:45:04.000It's anything that happens goes viral.
00:45:06.000Tucker does a show, you do a show, whatever, it goes massively viral.
00:45:09.000So people really know what's going on and it's like this totally, it's like you're either really awake or you're totally asleep.
00:45:14.000And this system represents all of these super asleep people who are basically boomers, have no idea what's going on.
00:45:20.000Do you think anyone who's asleep looks at this trial and says, like, yeah, Trump's not getting a fair shake?
00:45:25.000Like, is there a chance that non-politically engaged people are getting a negative impression of New York State as opposed to Trump right now?
00:45:32.000No, I think anybody who still is locked into that mode of thinking is pretty much there for the long haul.
00:46:34.000I have a job, I have a life to get back to.
00:46:36.000I wouldn't be surprised if behind the scenes the jurors are actually getting pissed.
00:46:39.000There were reports already that jurors are yawning and they're looking around the room, they're not paying attention, some are falling asleep.
00:46:46.000They're like, so did you sign this thing for accounts payable?
00:46:50.000It's like talking about, you know, your checkbook and accounts every day.
00:46:54.000Like, it's not a murder trial where it's like motivations and passions and this thing there.
00:46:58.000And by the way, there are murder trials that have taken less time than this month-long You know, this will probably go eight weeks at this rate.
00:47:05.000And I just can't imagine that it's compelling to the jury when it's always comes down to this thing of like, well, I knew Michael Cohen was getting a payment.
00:47:23.000It was all people that had a an emotional desire to get Trump.
00:47:29.000And I think that goes this goes Probably is accurate for all of the the the accusations against Trump.
00:47:38.000They're all like brought by people that have some kind of you know that have some kind something to some way to benefit even if it's just their own career because they got Trump and stuff and I think that they got out ahead of their skis because of that emotional, you know desire to be the person that got Trump and now they're in a position where Again, like the administration has not performed the way
00:49:10.000He grew up in Scranton, and he's from a big Catholic family.
00:49:13.000And Trump is this wealthy, you know, he was born wealthy, became even wealthier, always uses privilege against you.
00:49:18.000And I think in this case, the fact that you're having so many trials go against him, people start to be like, He's just this guy who government's going after, and that could really be any of us.
00:49:29.000I mean, the stories I hear about him, from what I've seen of him at rallies and seen of him at Mar-a-Lago just recently, first time meeting him, he is one of the nicest guys I've ever seen.
00:49:41.000I mean, here's a guy who, after almost every rally, walks down off the stage, up to the barricades where his fans are, and he sits there and talks for 15, 20 minutes to all these people shaking their hands, signing their hats.
00:49:53.000Here's a guy, I told this story when I was at Mar-a-Lago, he's late, he's walking out, there's guests at Mar-a-Lago, and the guy sitting next to me says, Mr. President, can I get a photo?
00:50:15.000And the way he handles his security around his rallies and his fans, he makes sure to let his
00:50:22.000fans have his time of his time. And he gives them the time of day. I can't, there's a lot of people
00:50:28.000who are very nice. And I can't say I have the time and energy that Trump does to deal with things
00:50:33.000You know, we wrap up a show, everybody comes up, I try to talk to as many people as possible, and then it's like, look, we gotta go, we're busy, and I'm like, sorry everybody, I gotta go.
00:50:54.000But that means, as a president, the only thing he really cares about is that you, the American population, the American citizen, love the guy.
00:51:03.000And we make fun of him back in 2015, 16, 17, 18, all the time, for he's the guy who puts his name in big gold letters on buildings.
00:52:30.000And I'm like, he acts like he's working for the people.
00:52:35.000That's how it seems when you watch him.
00:52:37.000But you go to any one of his businesses, and I challenge anyone who says a bad word of Trump and doesn't believe he's a good dude, go to any one of his businesses and ask his employees.
00:52:45.000You will not find a single employee who dislikes the guy.
00:52:49.000He shows up, he pats him on the back, he compliments him, and hands him a $100 bill.
00:52:54.000That's how Trump treats his employees.
00:52:56.000There's a lot of companies that they show up, they insult their employees, they complain about them, and then fire them the next day.
00:53:03.000But Trump famously lines up, he's like, everybody come together around, come over here, everybody get together, and then he pulls out a wad of cash and he starts handing out $100 bills to all of his staff.
00:53:15.000I feel like the, I mean, anybody who has criticisms of Trump, I mean, if you put this into perspective, Like Joe Biden's policies and everything that Biden, it's like an intentional destruction of the country.
00:53:56.000It's just basically a strategy that these two people, these weird communist boomers, they came up with this idea that you could stress the economy through all kinds of government policies, all kinds of basically socialist type policies, and then other means that I won't mention that that would then overwhelm the ability of the system to function and then it would collapse and then oh then we would get some sort of proletariat or some sort of uprising or whatever.
00:54:30.000Yeah it says the Cloward-Piven strategy is a political strategy outlined in 1966 by American sociologist and political activist Richard Clowar and Francis Fox Piven.
00:54:40.000The strategy aims to utilize militant anti-poverty groups to facilitate a political crisis by overloading the welfare system via an increase in welfare claims, forcing the creation of a system of guaranteed minimum incomes and redistributing income through the federal government.
00:54:58.000So essentially, it's looking to use the safety net that is intended to prevent people from falling into poverty, use that as a means to get people to rely on the government.
00:56:44.000So you end up creating this group of people that are, that are going to be dependent, not just on, you know, that just not, not for them, but for their, their generations and stuff.
00:56:55.000The difference here though, I think that makes it a little bit more intense is that this can be turned into something that's an actual weapon to destroy the existence, the existing system.
00:57:05.000So it's like blow it up from within using the means of the system.
00:57:08.000And that means if, if this is, The operating plan of what's really going on, then it's not just incompetency that's running the government.
00:57:15.000There's actually a more cunning strategy at work, I think, to maybe even destroy the country.
00:57:54.000And then they can come along later going back to the coon pod issue and say, well, look, uh, I mean, I think Klaus even said something like this.
00:58:41.000I mean, you go to a person, and as we talked about earlier in the show with rational self-interest, and you say, a vote for me is a vote for cash in your pocket.
00:59:36.000And it's like, In this particular instance, I will give you, you spent more than your loan was.
00:59:43.000But there are many people who did not pay back their loans, or a greater sum of their loans, and they were given free money.
00:59:51.000This means at the time, money was created upon the issuance of debt to fund these universities, and your rent, and your food, without labor going into the market, creating inflation.
01:00:01.000Driving prices up as you pull resources from the economy without putting anything back in.
01:00:07.000Then when they cancel those loans without you putting money back in, or labor back in, the inflation sticks.
01:00:14.000The point at which the Biden administration cancels the debt is when the money supply, and then all of a sudden we get hit by that because it's going to be a massive... Now, it's a massive increase of money supply without an increase of labor.
01:00:27.000That being said, I actually do agree with First, getting rid of the college loan system, and then forgiveness for people who've already paid beyond their principle, and a suspension of interest rates.
01:00:40.000But the idea that there are a lot of people posting like, I owe 20 grand, now it's all gone.
01:00:44.000And it's like, they're like, I graduated two years ago.
01:01:10.000I think that's makes a lot more sense as to what's going on.
01:01:13.000I think that even if it isn't on purpose, I think the lack of effort to actually fix it, uh, It makes whether it's intentional irrelevant, right?
01:01:27.000Because if they're not going to fix it, and they know it's happening, because anyone that looks at unfunded liabilities knows that that's our biggest problem, and that'll destroy the dollar.
01:01:39.000So if you don't do something to fix that, and continuously multiple Congresses have known about this and not done anything about it, then at some point you have to say, well, at least, even if they aren't intentional, they don't have the intention to do anything to fix it.
01:01:53.000I think it adds to this dependent class, right?
01:01:55.000So you can say, oh, I forgive your loans, but there's always going to be more people who have student loans that are impossible.
01:02:43.000Yeah, so just a little bit over ten years.
01:02:46.000Yeah, but they can kick the can down the road on that.
01:02:51.000They can do things that will kick the can down the road on Social Security.
01:02:55.000Well, I mean, I don't know what they can do because right now the amount of money that we're spending on the interest is getting to the point where it's eating up such a significant amount of the federal debt.
01:03:09.000We're spending more money on interest than we are on military.
01:03:13.000Again, we've talked about this, but people make a big stink about foreign aid and stuff like that.
01:03:17.000We're spending more money to pay for the interest on the debt than anything else.
01:03:24.000Yeah, then then the military, you know, we talked about how much money the the US spends more money on the military than any country in history any country on earth and it literally Spends enough money to defend not only America and the seas but most of be the actual muscle behind Europe and still we spend more money on the interest on our debt and than we do on the military.
01:03:49.000So I don't see how this isn't on everyone's mind and on every congressperson's mind and on the Senate's mind all the time.
01:03:57.000So we have this story from last year from CNBC.
01:03:59.000They say that a recent report found that starting in 2034, retirees will only receive part of their benefits.
01:04:06.000I guess the good news is I will not be retired then and I don't have to worry about it.
01:09:38.000For all the people who aren't crypto nerds and don't care, this one matters.
01:09:41.000I remember 10 years ago, 10 years ago, I remember 15 years ago, Alex Jones was talking about how they want a one-world currency.
01:09:48.000They're gonna make the Emero, everybody.
01:09:50.000And then these pictures of the Emero were going around and they were like, Canada, Mexico, and the United States would have a united currency.
01:10:08.000How do you get people to adopt a one-world currency when they're resistant and fighting and they don't want it?
01:10:14.000And as soon as you start talking about a shared currency between an economic bloc like North America, you get people like Alex Jones ranting about it, everyone's upset.
01:11:00.000And you will be cheering it on as you switch from hard to digital currency.
01:11:06.000It makes me wonder if we'll get this weird offset of people who go back to bartering.
01:11:10.000They're like, I will only give you actual goods for actual goods.
01:11:13.000There will always be gold and things like this, but I'll just put it this way.
01:11:17.000Assuming there really is some deep, you know, global, liberal economic order conspiracy that they want Bitcoin, then Bitcoin is going to be worth billions.
01:11:27.000Like a single Bitcoin is going to be worth an insane amount of money.
01:11:33.000Maybe Bitcoin really is the salvation of breaking the Federal Reserve and creating a universal standard or something.
01:11:39.000Yeah, I think to that point Bitcoin will outlast the existing fiat-based currencies.
01:11:46.000So basically it's like a black hole, like Max Keiser is always saying, that the fiat currencies are being sucked into it because they are already doomed via not being attached to anything and via the government's having, well, ultimately it's private, but the private entities that really, you know, print the money.
01:12:03.000They're basically printing themselves into oblivion.
01:12:05.000Every fiat currency goes to zero, and so with something that has such a strong logic and mathematics behind it, there's no way that it can lose.
01:12:14.000I think that certain entities probably want to have a share to try to sway it and control it, like the entities that have come in via the ETFs, but I don't think they're going to be able to control it.
01:12:23.000No, I don't think it could be controlled.
01:12:25.000That's the power of it and why it's valuable, but it can certainly be tracked.
01:12:33.000They've been able to associate, they took someone's address for Bitcoin, looked at the coins that went into it, and then were able to track every coin and where it went.
01:12:42.000They mapped out networks of political ideology from it.
01:12:52.000There's a semi-private with the public ledger, but at the same time, like, If this is an invention that's intended to store value and energy over the next hundred years, then it's going to outlive even the people alive today and probably the governments that exist today.
01:13:05.000I think that's an interesting point, though, that fiat always goes to zero.
01:14:33.000I also have a $500 bill that's worth like $3,500, which as a collector's item is worth, you can actually still go to a bank and exchange it for five single $100 bills.
01:15:52.000I think the dollar loses its value and we see significant attempts to try and print our way out of it because there's not a whole lot they can do.
01:16:28.000It will be interesting for the first like class of retirees who are like, sorry, we don't have anything.
01:16:34.000I mean, what is that going to look like?
01:16:35.000Like you said, maybe they'll just start being like, you get half your benefits.
01:16:38.000We're going to try and get it from somewhere else.
01:16:40.000But, uh, you know, this is something I remember always hearing all the time, which is that, you know, when I was entering the workforce, when I was going through high school and stuff, they're like, well, you'll never see social security.
01:16:52.000You have to join us all in paying for it, like a time-honored American tradition.
01:16:56.000And I think that level of sort of fallacy, you know, to go back to what we were talking about at the beginning of the show, like, no wonder we have a generation that's just looking for sort of dopamine hits through fast scrolling.
01:17:09.000Everything around them appears to be crumbling.
01:17:11.000I wouldn't want to look around either.
01:17:13.000I just imagine, you know, it's back in like 1913, and these people talking about the Federal Reserve, they're just like, I've got a great idea!
01:17:44.000It's not just the money's gonna run out, the people are gonna run out.
01:17:47.000Yeah, I was gonna say, we barred against the future, but then we stopped producing a future,
01:17:51.000and we're like, whoever's left, you guys pay for it.
01:17:53.000Maybe that's why they're desperately flooding the country with illegal immigrants,
01:17:58.000hoping they'll create a tax base that will fund Social Security
01:18:01.000before it implodes and blows up the global economy.
01:18:03.000They're not participating in taxes the same way a native one American would.
01:18:05.000I think that should be obvious to everyone.
01:18:07.000I mean, it's this crazy thing where instead of encouraging people to have families, finding ways to make it easier, encouraging strong family values, they're like, you guys are the worst and we're just going to replace you with other people who live in fear of us because they don't have legal status.
01:18:23.000Well, learn how to raise chickens, how to farm.
01:18:30.000We've got, there's a farm nearby where their property includes a creek, and it's the coolest thing ever when you're driving past, and the cows are just in the water, chilling, and I'm just so jealous of those cows.
01:18:41.000I mean, not the part where they get killed in two years, but the part where they get to walk around, eating whatever they want, rolling around in the water.
01:18:46.000In like an idyllic, beautiful area, you know?
01:19:15.000When we drive past and there's that creek and they're just standing in the water and they're drinking from it and they look up, I'm like, that's bliss.
01:19:21.000And it's only bliss because they don't know they're meat.
01:22:36.000Well, it's funny because the Republicans are always jumping in every possible hoop to stress that they're not racist, and then the Democrats are always the one making the faux pas, kind of admitting what they really think.
01:22:51.000But then everybody thinks, I don't know, if you're conservative you have to be racist.
01:22:54.000She said, of course black children in the Bronx know what computers are.
01:22:57.000The problem is that they too often lack access to the technology needed to get on track to high-paying jobs in emerging industries like AI.
01:23:05.000That's why I've been focused on increasing economic opportunity since day one of my administration and will continue that fight to ensure every New Yorker has a shot at a good paying job.
01:23:14.000She's still basically saying the same thing.
01:23:17.000When Ami Horowitz went out, in one of the greatest videos of all time, and he asked these Berkeley students if voter ID was racist, and they all said yes, and they were saying ridiculous things like, black people don't know where the DMV is, and they don't have the internet, and they don't have phones.
01:24:07.000But the best interaction of all was when he asks this older guy, he's like, do you know where the DMV is?
01:24:12.000He goes, yeah, you just make a left up here on 25th.
01:24:15.000Like he thought he was asking for directions because it's the stupidest thing in the world to ask somebody if they know how to get to the DMV.
01:24:20.000Of course, it's right over there, but they're like dozens of times for all of my needs.
01:24:25.000The world Democrats live in, it's like they isolate themselves, surround themselves by other affluent white liberals, and then tell each other how superior they are and how racist everyone else is.
01:25:34.000I think that one of the things that I have learned or noticed about the whole CRT thing and the woke people is racism is something that we can try to minimize, but that is something that's in most people, and it comes out when they say the dumbest stuff.
01:25:55.000And I don't know that you can actually get rid of it.
01:26:00.000And I think that the best options, try not to focus on it like the woke people do,
01:26:05.000because I think when you focus on it, it only manifests in bad ways.
01:26:08.000But I think that the idea that people aren't gonna have those kind of slips,
01:26:12.000is probably, you probably expect people to be inhuman if you think that they're not gonna slip
01:26:18.000Not that I'm making excuses, but it happens.
01:26:21.000No, but just ask the governor, it's like, do you understand
01:26:24.000what the breakdown of your community is.
01:26:25.000And being governor of New York is obviously slightly complicated because you have very urbanized New York City, but then you have a lot of the state that's different.
01:27:21.000She's only the governor of this state.
01:27:23.000Can we go back to what Democrats were saying 20 years ago where, like, Quentin Tarantino was always arguing that you should shout the N-word from the top of every building.
01:28:19.000But I think the important takeaway from all of this is, I'd be willing to bet Because I'm an egotistical dick that if you were to play a clip of the North Sentinel Island joke to Democrats, they'd go, I don't get it.
01:28:36.000And the average Republican, I would say, they'd probably go, Tim, that was a bad joke.
01:28:43.000But they understand what North Sentinel Island is.
01:28:45.000And it's like what you were saying about people who listen to talk radio of like, Longer attention spans.
01:28:51.000And I also think that there's a correlation between today being on the right and being smart and being on the left and being not smart.
01:29:00.000Of course, they're adamant that they are very smart because Stephen Colbert told them 20 years ago that reality has a liberal bias.
01:29:08.000I like your theory so much I don't care if it's true.
01:29:13.000Yeah, I think that You know, it's like, was it Johnny Rotten?
01:29:18.000You know, never did I think that the right would be the cool anti-establishment ones and the left would be the whiny twats trying to ban everything.
01:29:26.000And it's like, well, you know, there you are.
01:29:27.000I think that you watch someone like Bill Maher and Every episode, it's just like, my guy, do you read the news?
01:29:38.000And I think probably the most embarrassing thing ever for Bill Maher was when he read the quote from Jack Posobiec that was an obvious joke.
01:29:45.000And you could tell he realized the last minute as he's reading it, he's reading a joke!
01:29:51.000And then he's like, are they really saying this?
01:30:26.000But then you watch the Prager interview, you watch the Don Lemon interview, and he just shows over and over and over again, the dude has like, He has no understanding of modern goings on.
01:30:39.000So if I were to make a joke about North Sentinel Island, a lot of people are going to say, yeah, sure, like, it was a weak joke, Tim.
01:32:33.000I mean, I think about, so the people point this out, people who would be graduating from, let's say, Columbia or any of these universities, they also missed their high school graduation because of COVID, right?
01:32:41.000Like, there is a generation that was socialized in a way that was very limited and very internet dependent.
01:32:47.000And I think we are seeing the effects in rapid time because the internet makes everything evolve even more quickly.
01:32:55.000Slang evolves more quickly with the internet age.
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01:33:34.000Lincoln, with the first super chat says, have Nick on, make it rumble or members only.
01:33:56.000Everyone knows Nick's what you're talking about.
01:33:58.000This is the thing about like all of the Fuentes stuff is like we never even talked to him and he never even asked to come on the show.
01:34:05.000It was Jake Shields who wanted Nick to come on the show and then dragged Nick into it and then Nick gets mad and I'm like I don't even know why Nick is involved.
01:34:13.000But the most important thing is we never even said we wouldn't have him on the show.
01:34:17.000Jake got mad that I didn't respond to his text for a week, and then was, like, complaining about it.
01:34:23.000And the issue was, like, okay, well, if you want to do it, it has to be a debate.
01:34:27.000And then Nick was like, oh, it's because they're scared of getting censored, and if they should just say, I'm done with these games, they're playing games.
01:34:34.000Quite literally, the first thing I said to Jake was, if we just have you guys on the show to talk about Jews, we'll get banned.
01:34:39.000But if we do a debate, then we can do the show, so why don't we find someone to make it a good show and we'll make a big show?"
01:34:59.000When he came back to me and said he wanted to debate Shmuley, I said, sure, but like you realize people will just say you copped out of a real debate.
01:35:07.000Like you want to get like an actual academic or high prominent Jewish personality who's going to challenge you, then we can do that.
01:35:17.000And then he texted me and then like, I'm busy, and he's like, because Tim didn't give me all of his time, therefore I'm angry.
01:35:24.000And then ultimately it came down to, I think, Cassandra, I don't know exactly what you said, but it's like, look, if we just have you on the show without doing it debate style, then we just get banned, and nobody wants to take that risk.
01:35:33.000And then they all get out of Beneshape, and they're complaining and whining about it, because that's what they do.
01:35:37.000Get Nick Cage and Nick on here to debate.
01:35:50.000Kyle says, my name is pronounced Kyle, but my friends call me Kiel.
01:35:54.000Proud member since January of 2021 and recently upgraded to Elite.
01:35:58.000Thank you for providing a trustworthy source of news coverage.
01:36:01.000I am mildly perturbed because the goal of the Elite membership It was because, you know, the team came to me and said, Tim, you should do like a higher tier membership where it's like elite access, slightly more expensive and more involved.
01:36:18.000And I said, oh, that's a really cool idea.
01:36:19.000We can do things like pre-releases and like privy to information.
01:36:24.000And so the ultimate thing was the first thing we can do that really makes the elite membership worth it is key fob access at the new Casper location, which means you will have a key to the private club.
01:36:37.000And hanging out at Mar-a-Lago, which is very expensive, it's like, I don't know, I don't know exactly how it works,
01:36:43.000but you're spending hundreds of thousands of dollars being members of these places.
01:36:46.000We have our version of a club, which is a hundred bucks a month,
01:36:49.000and that covers a lot of basic costs, like maintaining the building, and there's drinks there.
01:36:54.000We might still have to charge a small, like at-cost rate or something,
01:36:57.000but then you get a key, you get a key fob access.
01:36:59.000And so I'm mildly perturbed because, uh, we're just stuck in permitting, waiting for, uh, the drawings to come in, and it just takes forever.
01:37:06.000And it's absolutely insane how long this takes, because we've been waiting two years, or I shouldn't say two, but like a year and a half, to get this thing going.
01:37:13.000And the first thing is, like, we got some, a contractor's no good, bring another contractor, it's no good.
01:37:18.000Now we got a contractor who's super good, but now we just have to go through permitting, so it's taking longer than we thought.
01:37:23.000But the Elite Club, the Elite Membership is a hundred bucks a month, and the point is, we want to create physical spaces where you will actually walk up to the door and go, beep, walk in and hang out, play video games, watch TV.
01:37:34.000It's a private thing, so there'll be like, you know, I'm assuming we can have beer and stuff like that, but then you're hanging out with other like-minded individuals in the area, and thus we create the third space, they call it.
01:37:43.000A place to hang out outside of work or home or restaurants or whatever, where you can network and build stuff with people.
01:37:50.000That's the ultimate plan, but Kyle, thank you so much.
01:39:06.000You know what I learned, an important lesson?
01:39:09.000When I was growing up in Chicago, I was like, we don't have good skateboarding, we don't have good music.
01:39:12.000Like, we had our music, we had skateboarding, but it was always just like, the real cultural stuff in these areas was happening in the west and east coast, and mostly the west coast.
01:39:20.000And then I learned, Chicago's the city of food.
01:39:23.000That's like they got the Culinary Institute or whatever, Taste of Chicago.
01:39:26.000And then when I left and traveled to other places and all the food sucked, I was like, wow, Chicago's got some of the most famous food in the country.
01:39:33.000That's how I felt about pizza growing up in New England.
01:39:36.000Apparently, there's a whole theory that New England is right at the center, or at least like coastal Connecticut is at the center of the Pizza Belt of America, which is based on where immigration settled.
01:39:46.000And it's one of the reasons that the Pizza Hut and And Domino's started in the Midwest and they conquered there, but it was really difficult for them to break into the Northeast market because the Northeast already had good pizza.
01:39:58.000Do you have a theory as to why the Northeast has good quality pizza?
01:40:03.000Because the argument goes that it is the water in New York and Southern Connecticut that makes, because that's where the focus is, Southern Connecticut, New Haven and New York and stuff.
01:40:15.000Um, do you think, do you have an opinion as to what it is?
01:40:18.000Is it the actual recipe or is it the water that's used?
01:40:23.000I think it could be something like either water or some type of ingredients.
01:40:26.000I think part of it is that from what I read – shout out to one of my favorite podcasts ever, which is The Food That Built America by The History Channel.
01:40:33.000They talked about the fact that people who started making pizza for these chains used like the recipe for French bread.
01:40:41.000So I think part of it is just the immigration and institutional knowledge on how to make the crust correctly and that changes the game.
01:40:48.000Well, there was a pizza place, I think it's in Tampa, and they import water and flour from New York.
01:40:59.000Part of the reason, one of the things that I have heard people talk about is because of the mineral content, because of like New Hampshire and New England and stuff, there's a lot.
01:41:08.000It's the old bones of New England, the mountains and stuff.
01:42:04.000Someone should take, like, all of the bad things that, like, Maxine Waters says and plug it into an AI that sounds like Trump and then just put it up on the internet and be like, listen to what Trump said.
01:42:13.000I do a really good Maxine Waters impression, but I'll save it.
01:43:49.000I'm gonna sell it for a thousand dollars.
01:43:50.000I want to believe that, like, someone who takes the time to do this is genuinely asking for help, but it is hard to tell with the internet.
01:43:56.000That's one thing that I hate right now about culture, which is, like, everything is so intense.
01:44:00.000Everyone has their own negative reason for doing something that you just, it just, we're breeding a society that doesn't have any optimist, that doesn't believe in anybody.
01:44:10.000For good reasons, on the other hand, that seems like a long-term poor investment.
01:44:13.000Congratulations, Kevin, I just sent you $1,000.
01:44:14.000I have no idea if you're telling the truth, but maybe you'll have fun either way.
01:44:19.000And then there was that other guy from last night actually super chatted too, so I imagine I'll pay his rent, but that'll be the last one.
01:44:47.000I think, and the other part is like with the Gifts and Go stuff or the GoFundMes, I wonder if seeing like a big donation come in helps other people sort of jump on board and be like, oh yeah, I'm going to give to this too.
01:47:02.000Maybe everyone else can vote on these chats.
01:47:04.000If someone says something like, I gotta pay my rent, and they really think the person's telling the truth, then people could give a thumbs up.
01:47:18.000We get a lot of people with superchats saying they have a GoFundMe and they're looking for help, so we could certainly help out some people.
01:49:25.000Our marketing budget is now, you know, I was talking about this with some friends a long time ago because Casey Neistat did this thing.
01:49:33.000He had a video where he's like, I was offered $25,000 to do a promo for the life of Walter Mitty or whatever that movie was with Ben Stiller.
01:49:41.000And he's like, so we decided to take the budget of $25,000 and just go do like go deliver supplies to people like it was like a hurricane or earthquake or something.
01:49:49.000And I was like, imagine if marketing was companies competing with doing the most good
01:49:54.000for maximum exposure, like Mr. Beast style or something.
01:49:57.000So Coca-Cola's like, we could spend $10 million on this commercial where, you know, or like Pepsi's
01:50:02.000like, we could have Kendall or whoever, Jenner, give a Pepsi to a cop and spend millions of dollars
01:50:07.000filming this. Or we film a video where it's literally just a guy in a Pepsi outfit being
01:50:11.000like, instead of spending millions of dollars on a commercial, that would probably just be a waste
01:50:14.000of your time. Pepsi is going to give the entire budget to, and then they go and they help like,
01:50:19.000people with cataracts like you know like Mr. Beast did.
01:50:22.000And then the goal of the advertising among companies would be, who could do the most good?
01:50:27.000It probably wouldn't last forever, but I feel like it'd be a good marketing stint for a couple months where all these companies are like, we're gonna allocate our marketing budget to some, like, You know, like, you know, charitable expansion or something like that.
01:50:39.000It makes me think of when, you know, your local dentist's office will sponsor the local baseball team.
01:50:45.000And so they get, like, the plaque in the office and maybe the kid's jersey has, like, the dentist's logo on it.
01:50:49.000But it's, you know, something directly to their community.
01:50:53.000Maybe they get a tax write-up or something, but they're not running commercials.
01:50:56.000They're just sponsoring, you know, youth sports.
01:51:07.000Yeah, we should do we get a lot Can we do an event where like we give everyone who attends a live chicken?
01:51:13.000Chicken in every pot you actually literally do it Let's go the real hydro PX says Trump is a germaphobe Why would you want to have sex with a woman who is a porn star?
01:51:24.000Alex, what is it? Phil has too much prejudice from stories about Trump. Oh,
01:51:30.000you see prejudice. Like, listen, just because I think that Trump might have
01:51:36.000actually had sex with the woman doesn't mean I condemn Trump for having sex with
01:51:39.000a woman. Okay. Like just because I'm not condemning it. I'm not.
01:51:43.000I'm not like, dude, you did the wrong thing and it's a bad... I'm like, man, look, if that's what you want to do, go get it, man.
01:52:16.000Nick is an instaband for the most part.
01:52:18.000You'll get censored, you'll get demonetized.
01:52:21.000Then his fans will start sending you emails, and I thought it wasn't really his fans, but, you know, like, Elijah and Mary were convinced his fans actually do this.
01:52:31.000Because, for whatever reason, I don't know.
01:52:33.000Whether you think it's... But people who claim to be fans of Nick Fuentes will then send death threats, threats to, you know... Well, yeah.
01:52:40.000Like, rape your children and do this stuff, and then when you try to do events, your insurance company is going to ask you about these things, then they're going to have requirements for security.
01:52:48.000So people just genuinely don't want to have him on.
01:52:51.000I think it's also fair to say that when, like, Jake Shields tweeted out, uh, he told me that I lied like a Jew, I think that instantly got a bunch of people to be like, nobody wants to book you when you do this stuff.
01:53:02.000It has nothing to do with whether you're insulting people for being Jewish or whatever.
01:53:06.000YouTube will ban you for any invective targeting a race based on their race, or ethnicity.
01:53:13.000So the issue for having Nick on our own website is also saying, why don't you cancel an episode of your show and do an exclusive on your website instead?
01:53:21.000It's like, because we do the show live on YouTube every night, we always have, and so we've not really thought about changing the structure of the show to accommodate one guest.
01:53:29.000When the reality was Jake Shields asked us to have him on and I said, yeah we'll get banned if we do that, but if we do it as a debate it'll work.
01:53:38.000And then we actually thought it would be the biggest show ever if Laura Loomer came on because she's Jewish and very pro-Israel.
01:53:44.000She was unable to do it, but we all agreed.
01:53:47.000And the sponsors we reached out to were super excited for it.
01:53:50.000There are companies that wanted to get on board with it.
01:53:52.000And we basically talked to a bunch of different platforms.
01:53:56.000Totally fine to host on YouTube with no issues.
01:53:59.000And then we were like, okay, we got to find somebody else.
01:54:01.000And then all the anybody else we could find were things that weren't really a big show.
01:54:06.000It would be like, to accommodate Nick and Jake, we would find someone with 15,000 followers who would do it, because the other people who challenged them to a debate, who we reached out to, were like, they backed out and they didn't want to do it.
01:54:17.000And then Jake texts me, or whatever, and I'm like, dealing with running a company with the 50 plus employees or whatever, and hosting two shows.
01:54:24.000I don't get back to him because I don't typically handle booking, and then he lost it because we didn't book him right away.
01:54:29.000So it's like, why don't we host Nick on the website?
01:54:31.000That's like saying, How about we host a special episode, members only, on the website that we could do?
01:54:37.000Because otherwise, it's like, we have to pay the bandwidth cost and all that stuff, and like, sure, I guess, but I don't do that for anybody.
01:54:44.000Just so he can be racist on the internet, too.
01:54:47.000I mean, he's allowed to be if he wants to have a debate or a conversation.
01:54:50.000It's fine, but it's like... But it's like, why don't you accommodate Nick more than you've accommodated any guest you've ever had on the show?
01:54:56.000And it's like, Well, I mean, we got Nick, Milo, and Ye, a private jet from L.A.
01:55:02.000Because last time you walked out on us, dude.
01:55:06.000I don't care that he walked out on us.
01:55:07.000I respect that, you know, he's in the position where Ye is going to walk out.
01:55:11.000But I'll just say this publicly, and nobody knows this, but it was $100,000 to bring him on in the first place with Ye and Milo.
01:55:18.000Because we cover all travel accommodations for all our guests.
01:55:22.000And when they're like, we're going to do this big show, we're running this campaign, it's one of the biggest things ever, I was like, Guys, you tell us what your travel costs are going to be from L.A.
01:56:04.000So it's like, why would you accommodate Nick Fuentes?
01:56:06.000Ask him about the $100,000 private jet we got him to fly here, and then he walked out on the show because he was working for Ye at the time.
01:56:11.000Like, dude, we bend over backwards to accommodate things that people don't normally want to accommodate.
01:56:18.000Like, when Jake said he wants to come on the show with Nick, I said, okay, we can't do it because we'll get banned, but here's how we can figure it out, if we can do it like a debate.
01:56:24.000And then he just, like, here's what happens.
01:56:27.000We bring Nick on with Ye, Ye storms off.
01:56:29.000I get it, Nick's not gonna stick around for that.
01:56:59.000So we're booking Ye, Milo, and Nick, and they're like, we will come on your show, and this is mostly like Ye, and it's like, yeah, but I'm busy, I gotta fly, if I'm gonna fly, I'm not gonna, like, here's how it works, I can't explain what their schedule is, I can explain what my schedule is.
01:57:16.000I work Monday morning to Friday evening, it's two different shows, the morning show and the nightly show.
01:57:22.000So I get hit up by like Valuetainment, PBD.
01:57:36.000And then if I go home and I go to bed, I can maybe catch a flight at 6 a.m.
01:57:40.000Be in Miami by like 3 or 4 if we're lucky and then maybe do a show in the evening and then catch a flight Sunday morning to fly back home and then have to work all over again.
01:57:52.000But if after the show on Friday I get a private jet, which from DC to Miami round trip is usually between $20,000 and $30,000, we can make something like that happen.
01:58:04.000So when it comes to someone like Ye, who's doing all of this ridiculous flying around and he's in LA, typically it's why, okay, well, the only way we can make it happen is if we have a plane waiting for us and we run into it, fly there, come on the show, wake up, get on the plane and fly back.
01:58:30.000It is impossible to deal with these guys.
01:58:34.000TheAuthenticHydroPX says, Tim, please get some Culture War episode set up related to the Groipers.
01:58:38.000Destiny is a good option since he likes going after Groipers like Nick.
01:58:42.000Yeah, we didn't want to do just Destiny because it's been done.
01:58:45.000What I really wanted was an actual, like, historian, pro-Israel, maybe even pro-Zionist, who was going to sit down and actually have real facts and have a real debate with Nick Fuentes.
01:59:03.000There are personalities and political commentators who are like, I'll do it.
01:59:07.000And I'm like, yeah, look, man, with all due respect, I don't mean to be mean to smaller personalities, but of course they will.
01:59:13.000Of course, somebody who doesn't have a big following will come on a show with a million plus subscribers to debate Nick Fuentes on this issue, which will get a million plus views.
01:59:22.000I even told Jake, I'm like, if we get this right and we get like a real Zionist and pro-Israel personality to like debate you, we're talking like five million hits.
01:59:30.000It'll be like the biggest podcast in a long time.
02:00:11.000I mean, the thing with Adam Green is that it's an individual who's done several sort of debates with lesser known figures that in those debates, I think he's demonstrated that there's not really much familiarity with basic philosophical concepts, fallacies, argumentation.
02:00:28.000So I don't think that would be a very fruitful debate.
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