Tim Pool Announces Legal Action Against Harris Campaign For Defamation w-Clay Travis| Timcast IRLTim Pool Announces Legal Action Against Harris Campaign For Defamation w-Clay Travis| Timcast IRL
Kamala Harris and her campaign have been accused of defamatory remarks about Donald Trump and his supporters. On today's show, host Clay Travis talks about why he's taking legal action against them and why he thinks they're lying.
00:00:00.000I made the announcement this morning, but I am going to state it again at the beginning
00:00:21.000of the show, and we'll get into detail as to why.
00:00:23.000I have engaged my legal team to begin the process to sue Kamala Harris and her campaign for defamation that I believe is so shockingly egregious.
00:00:34.000I'm not sure that there could be any... I'm not sure...
00:00:37.000The statement they made about me could be any more extreme.
00:00:40.000I believe it is the most egregious it could possibly be.
00:00:43.000We'll get into that on the show, and I'll explain where we're currently at, and what they said.
00:00:47.000It took a clip from the show out of context, and then just barreled on a bunch of insane fabrications, accusing me of calling for the, what is tantamount to genocide among those who refuse to support Trump if he wins.
00:01:01.000And it is false, defamatory in the extreme, and again, we'll discuss that.
00:01:05.000But I want to talk about a lot more than that.
00:01:06.000Because the question around this is more than just about me personally, and that we will be... I'll stress this right now.
00:01:34.000We got a story out of Philadelphia where an ad campaign popped up all over the city claiming that Kamala was the official candidate of the Philadelphia Eagles.
00:02:27.000Before we get started, my friends, head over to Casperoo.com, support our work with buying coffee, but more importantly, go to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member, because if you support the work that we're doing, and we are going to need your support now more than ever, we need you guys to go to TimCast.com and click join us and become a member.
00:02:56.000We'll get into, again, the story in just a minute, but we're going to need help to be able to fight through this one, and we don't know what's going to happen.
00:03:06.000We just know one thing for sure, it's going to be extremely expensive and I made the decision to move forward on this without knowing whether or not you guys would be backing us in our endeavors at this company.
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00:05:38.000And in many ways, the fact that they, I'm still not over it, but the fact that they didn't let kids play high school sports, the fact that some blue states demanded that if you played basketball, you had to wear a mask while you're doing it.
00:05:50.000And now they want to snap their fingers, you know, sort of mission men in black style and just pretend none of this ever happened.
00:06:30.000There's a lot that I cannot discuss for obvious reasons, and I will stress that in most circumstances, and basically in all of them, where you've heard me discuss our legal challenges, legal issues, our lawsuits, we never discuss details.
00:06:45.000However, this story is largely political.
00:06:48.000It is a massively viral video from Kamala HQ that has 11.5 million views.
00:06:54.000So this wasn't one of their passive posts.
00:06:56.000This is one of their... I should just say it's a very large post.
00:06:59.000The Harris campaign posted, Trump operatives say their Project 2025 plan is to give Trump total unchecked legal power so they can jail and execute those who don't support Trump.
00:07:11.000If he wins, they have since scrubbed this video from YouTube.
00:07:15.000So I'm just going to come out right and say, I am not a Trump operative.
00:07:18.000I have never received any money from Trump, Trump's associates, or anything to do with Donald Trump.
00:07:23.000This company has received zero investment.
00:07:25.000This company is built from the ground up from my personal savings at first, then sponsorship revenue, which came from various companies like, you know, gold companies and things like that.
00:07:35.000But largely programmatic ads that I don't even know what they are.
00:07:38.000So when these videos appear on YouTube, YouTube runs ads.
00:08:04.000And I oppose the death penalty in all circumstances.
00:08:07.000And I've routinely argued on this show the death penalty is wrong and I do not trust the government to decide who gets to live and die.
00:08:12.000To make the claim that I am calling for that is shockingly insane.
00:08:16.000I do not believe there is a more extreme thing you could say about a person other than to indicate they were calling for the genocide of political factions in a country that refuse to support a presidential candidate should he win.
00:08:28.000And for this, we are pursuing this legal action.
00:08:34.000There's a lot more we can talk about, I suppose, in this.
00:09:15.000We can have attorney general, there's some names floating around.
00:09:17.000And then they can start having their investigators and the feds issuing subpoenas, pulling up evidence, and with real evidence, bring them to judges for warrants.
00:09:27.000Then these people can spend three years of their lives fighting tooth and nail for the crime against the government, for crimes they committed, and we can prove.
00:09:36.000And the reason why we put them on trial is that we can show the whole world, we will uncover what you've done, we will make sure everyone knows, and you will be held accountable for it.
00:09:45.000Not just jail, they should get the death penalty.
00:09:47.000You know, we actually used to have the punishment for treason in this country.
00:09:51.000And then the show ends, and I'll tell you why.
00:09:53.000It's because we do not allow calls for violence on this show, allusions to violence.
00:09:57.000We do not call for the death penalty on this show.
00:10:00.000The show is in its full on Rumble, iTunes, Spotify, and all their podcast platforms.
00:10:06.000It wasn't scrubbed because any of us were concerned about I don't know what they're trying to imply by saying we scrubbed it, but I'll give you the context.
00:10:15.000This is about Sean Davis of The Federalist, who said he wants to see lists of Democrats that will be arrested when Trump wins.
00:10:22.000The point I'm making, as you can hear, but they've excluded the context before this minute-long clip, is I said, make sure that there's evidence, real evidence.
00:11:09.000These are people who are trying to subvert government for personal gain or benefit.
00:11:12.000They're not aiding enemies of this country.
00:11:14.000And that's the context of what we were talking about.
00:11:18.000Now, as I stated, normally I don't talk about our legal issues, but this is Look, I'll just tell you, I'm hanging out with family over Labor Day weekend and all of a sudden my phone's blowing up with family members freaking out.
00:11:52.000She's appeared on the show as a guest.
00:11:54.000So this claim is that they are accusing me in this clip of saying that Trump should commit what is tantamount to genocide.
00:12:04.000That should he win, people who won't support him should get executed.
00:12:07.000And that is absolutely, absolutely insane.
00:12:10.000And I don't think there's anything worse you could accuse a person of doing.
00:12:14.000To me, this is actually a sign of Kamala Harris's campaign desperation.
00:12:22.000Leaving aside, I understand why you would be outraged, I mean, for them to have shared this about you, for it to have been seen by eleven and a half million people.
00:12:30.000And that's not including reposts and shares from their account, which we can't track.
00:12:35.000But this is, to me, is a calculated attempt that they have clearly made to try and make Project 2025 their focal point of attack on Trump.
00:12:54.000So they have had this, I really believe, for months, and they decided, as the polls have started to slip, and as Kamala Harris's sugar high has begun to diminish, I just look at this purely from a strategy perspective.
00:13:09.000This, to me, is an attempt to change the storyline from They're misguided attacks related to Abbey Gate and everything that happened at Arlington National Cemetery and try to put this into the Democrat media spin cycle and turn Project 2025 and Trump back into the Hitler of his era, right?
00:13:30.000This is calculated language by them designed to send that message to all the followers.
00:13:34.000That's what I take away, not on a particular basis.
00:13:38.000I don't know about you guys, but that's what strikes me when I see that her official campaign account shared this.
00:14:02.000And Trump also has said that he's not affiliated with Project 2025.
00:14:06.000I was on the show one night with a Project 2025 person who's no longer with the project, with Heritage Foundation, who said unequivocally that it was not a Trump project, that it was not part of that.
00:14:17.000They've been working on this for years.
00:14:19.000It coincided with Trump's campaign, but it's not the same thing.
00:14:23.000And it's an effort, too, to paint the entire conservative side and the Republican side as though there's just one voice.
00:14:30.000And if you think about it, that's what they do with all groups of people.
00:14:33.000They assume that every group of people is a monolith.
00:14:36.000That doesn't have individuals that can speak for themselves or have their own ideas or ideals or values or thoughts, you know, or plans.
00:14:45.000And I think that that's one of the most dangerous things about the Democratic left today, is that they assume people who have similarities that they identify, similar identifiers, you know, should all be shuffled into affinity groups and not be really permitted to have their own thoughts.
00:15:04.000Right, I think so much of it is fear-mongering, right?
00:15:06.000I mean, all of this is to make it look like this show is an extremist outlet, and that if you listen to anything from it, if anyone you know references this show, that they are actually supporting very extreme...
00:15:20.000Calls for violence, which is inherently not true.
00:15:22.000I mean, we've already talked about that.
00:15:23.000And I think so much of the Democratic left in America relies on fear and compliance.
00:15:28.000They don't want anyone to check where any clips are coming from.
00:15:32.000They want people like Charlie Kirk or Tim to be these, you know, shadowy figures who, if you reference them, actually, that's a signal that you're, you know, deranged and no one should trust you.
00:15:42.000And I think that is very, very Totalitarian, and people should be afraid of that.
00:15:47.000But again, this fear of being associated with the wrong people is so inherently bred into American culture right now that it's difficult for the general public to walk away from it.
00:15:55.000I don't know how this country survives like this.
00:15:58.000We've got a bunch of stories, but you know, for the past 10 years, there has not been reality in this country.
00:16:05.000And what I mean to say is that certainly I think there is objective reality.
00:16:09.000I think things are true, and I think we can prove them beyond a reasonable doubt.
00:16:14.000I would argue that the corporate press has been lying about the majority of political circumstances, as we can see here.
00:16:22.000We'll see how the media reports on this one.
00:16:47.000And the lie, it's not Trump spilling food into a fishbowl.
00:16:50.000It's not Donald Trump praising bad people.
00:16:53.000I mean, those are shockingly egregious.
00:16:55.000It's not Donald Trump saying, inject bleach, an insane thing to accuse someone of doing.
00:16:59.000It's crazy, I have a family member say, the frontrunner for the largest, the candidate for the largest political party in this country, On their official campaign account, to 10 plus million people, has accused you of calling for the mass execution, the killing, extra-legally, of Democrat voters, if they won't back Trump should he win.
00:17:59.000I will tell you, as a lawyer, there's no way that some 19-year-old intern got sent a clip and posted it from Kamala Harris' account without it being signed off on to the nth degree.
00:18:14.000I bet eight people have to see every tweet before they send it out.
00:18:42.000Kamala Harris, who has been expressly clear that she doesn't believe that Twitter should be allowed basically to exist as it does, and a president and a vice president, she and Biden, who tried to restrict what we could say about COVID.
00:19:01.000To me, this is a First Amendment election.
00:19:03.000I understand there's lots of people out there with a lot of opinions on economy, border crime, abortion, you know, whatever you want to talk about.
00:19:10.000If you don't have the ability to have real debates in this country, there is no freedom.
00:19:16.000And I think they've recognized that, and I think they're trying to curtail discussions.
00:19:22.000and attack people who have discussions to try to restrict the mass flow of information in this country.
00:19:28.000And that's why, to me, ultimately, if you believe in the First Amendment, this is an easy decision.
00:19:33.000So when it comes to presidential campaigns, you know, you just said you think eight people had to have signed off on it.
00:19:40.000I think that, I think that that, yes, sorry.
00:19:42.000So you're basically, what I'm wondering is, you're saying that as a large presidential campaign, that spend, they spend what a billion plus dollars in these
00:19:51.000campaigns? They're having multiple levels of PR scrutiny on everything they're doing. So with
00:19:58.000something like this, in your view, they signed off on that intentionally. Yes, and I think
00:20:04.000they have 15 videos like this that they have prepared over the next two months on a
00:20:10.000calculated basis to try to take control of the narrative news cycle.
00:21:51.000Every time she does, there's some kind of gaffe.
00:21:53.000And when she releases any kind of policy proposal, it's either stolen directly from Trump or some kind of weird socialist economic plan that will lead to starvation and famine.
00:22:04.000So they don't have any plans other than to attack not just Trump, but Trump's voters.
00:22:10.000And I think what's really important about that, too, is it shows you just what she thinks and what her campaign thinks and what this democratic machine thinks of your average American who's just walking around living their lives, you know, looking for the right person to vote for who they think should leave the country.
00:22:27.000And they don't have anything to say to those people.
00:22:41.000Okay, look, the previous segment is about the Kamala Harris accusations or false statements, false declarations about me.
00:22:50.000But now we are looking at this extreme degree.
00:22:54.000Eagles Nation posting a photo of a billboard found in Philly of the Eagles appearing to endorse Kamala Harris.
00:23:00.000The team has not made any sort of official announcement, and their voting resource website listed on it hasn't been updated since the primary elections.
00:23:07.000It's Kamala wearing Eagles gear, and it says, Kamala, official candidate of the Philadelphia Eagles.
00:23:12.000Now, we don't know who posted these, but I gotta tell you, these are on bus stops in Philadelphia.
00:23:19.000This is either Someone at an official capacity with lots of money reached out to a large brokerage firm.
00:25:54.000We should do Kamala endorses the Eagles or the Eagles endorse Kamala ads and I would put my money on this being some form of Dallas Cowboy, not the official team, but Dallas Cowboy fan pranks.
00:27:53.000But you're not, you are not submitting that.
00:27:55.000So the argument could be that someone got a bunch of these printed up and then broke into those boxes to add, how, you'd have to know how to do that?
00:28:04.000There's an artist that they were saying, and I can't remember his name, but who does similar styled art and he's done it with like Nike, but it's all pro-Joe Biden, right?
00:28:12.000So the idea that this was made by someone who kind of uses commercial logos or whatever in their art isn't, you know, entirely unreasonable.
00:28:21.000And I would go back to, I assume to get them all up so quickly and informally, you would have to have some kind of advertising connection.
00:28:27.000You'd have to know how to get these things placed.
00:28:29.000But you made me laugh before the show because you were saying that saying your team supports Kamala Harris is like a college football insult right now.
00:28:41.000Notre Dame just played against Texas A&M down in Texas and a bunch of the frats had Notre Dame endorses Kamala Harris basically huge signs that they hung outside of the fraternity houses.
00:30:05.000So yeah, I wonder if it could be connected in some way, the same idiot That made that video and somehow got it released for Josh Shapiro, whether simultaneously they were doing eagle-related ads.
00:30:20.000They didn't get the right approval, but they have the ability to upload things and this thing got out there.
00:30:29.000I really want to know if it's a prank or if somebody's an idiot and they thought, oh, we're in a battleground state.
00:30:35.000Turnout in Philadelphia might well decide the presidential election.
00:30:38.000Philadelphia is kind of an activist city.
00:30:40.000I mean, we did see a lot of activists there, so I could totally see someone who had access being like, I gotta do this anyways, I really want to.
00:30:47.000But it makes me laugh because this is coming the same day the New York Times is running this article, left-wing misinformation is having a moment.
00:30:53.000Now, if you read the article at the end, they basically blame Trump.
00:30:55.000They're like, he's responsible for everything.
00:30:58.000They blame Trump for their wanting to destroy the Constitution.
00:31:00.000But it's interesting because they are acknowledging that there have been several major missteps by the Harris campaign that are misinformation, that they are presenting these false information.
00:31:08.000Again, you know, what happened over the weekend to Tim.
00:31:11.000Like, there is a mistrust in the Harris campaign where people don't believe.
00:31:16.000I mean, the fact that people are immediately like, I don't think the Eagles endorsed her tells you that.
00:31:21.000Between her and Walls, you know, his stolen valor and his fake IVF, people don't look at the two of them and think this is an honest ticket.
00:31:31.000By the way, the other people that could be involved here are Pittsburgh Steelers fans.
00:31:34.000You're coming up with a whole new conspiracy.
00:31:36.000Yeah, I mean, there is a huge Steeler versus Eagles element of Pennsylvania, and Pittsburgh is much more of a 50-50, you know, surrounding.
00:31:46.000I would bet most Steelers fans are going to vote Trump, whereas I would bet maybe most Eagles fans are going to vote Kamala.
00:32:31.000Has this ever happened before where a sports team has been like, put your hat in the ring politically?
00:32:36.000I like to think that OutKick is starting to kind of bring normalcy back to sports because the craziest thing that's ever happened in sports politically Do you remember the NBA put Black Lives Matter on the basketball court?
00:33:48.000Drew Brees put, Afkus Drew Brees said, remember Drew Brees got ripped for saying that the reason he stood for the anthem was because his grandfathers fought Nazis.
00:33:57.000In World War II, and then they started chanting, F. Drew Brees.
00:36:26.000If we live in the South, and you guys are all nodding, you're like, yeah, we're borderline South right now, and they think that they will have more appeal to us if they pretend to be like us even when we know they aren't.
00:36:40.000Hillary Clinton did this with the ridiculous aspects.
00:36:47.000I think to ever run for president. She's in Michigan with this clip. I mean, that's why I
00:36:51.000don't really understand it. Instead of trying to appear like whatever, I think she's faking a
00:36:56.000Southern accent to seem welcoming, to seem more friendly, the way that people, you know, stereotype
00:37:00.000Southern ladies by saying bless your heart, but actually that's not a thing. I think she wants to
00:37:03.000seem more black. Well, let's apply what you said there, Hannah Clare, that, you know, Kamala Harris
00:37:09.000tries to sound a way to, to what, like be a... Alter people's perception of her.
00:37:16.000So that they feel like she's like them.
00:37:18.000I think it's trying to be disarming or charming.
00:37:20.000Yeah, here's a story from Yale Insights.
00:37:22.000White liberals present themselves as less competent in interactions with African Americans.
00:37:27.000So if the argument is that people like Kamala are going to meet a bunch of southerners and then try and put on a southern drawl, or they're gonna meet people in the city and they're gonna try and speak like a street dialect of sorts.
00:37:38.000White liberals, according to Yale, act like they're stupid.
00:37:41.000What does that mean about how they perceive black people?
00:37:44.000They do think Black people are stupid, and we've seen this for years.
00:37:47.000There was a study done that showed that white elitist liberals speak down to their Black counterparts, you know, whether they have the same level of degrees and obviously, you know, similar intelligence and all of that.
00:38:03.000White liberals speak down to Black people, and that's very clear.
00:38:06.000That's been Did you guys see the video?
00:38:07.000Thatya Ankur Sargon talks about that and that that was really the beginning, that study
00:38:11.000was really the beginning of her, you know, moving away from the organized left.
00:38:16.000Did you guys see the video that went viral recently of liberal white people being asked
00:38:23.000Well, that's actually a really, the Ami Horowitz one, that's a classic video and it's actually
00:38:27.000several years old, but it is always worth bringing up.
00:38:29.000It keeps cycling back through and all the white people basically think black people are too dumb and not... Right, Kamala Harris even thinks that.
00:38:38.000She said that there shouldn't be voter ID because you need to get forms photocopied and you might live in a place where you don't have access to photocopy machines.
00:38:47.000Which is like, so clearly, she's never been to any real rural places, which, you know, me personally, neither had I, and then I moved to one, and it's like, it's not difficult to get something photocopied, or anything.
00:39:18.000And that is why I think these accents happen.
00:39:20.000I think she's trying to make people like her and it comes across so fake that I think it actually blows up in her face and makes people less likely to like her.
00:39:38.000It's not like she's going to Texas and trying to blend in there.
00:39:41.000I think she's using the Southern accent to seem like she has more of a personality and to seem like she has some kind of charm, which she doesn't.
00:40:30.000And then she dialed it back, and it actually made things worse.
00:40:33.000Because then you put them side by side, and this is why so many of your advisors are worthless.
00:40:39.000Because this is, if you allow people to get in your head, Eventually, and I'm sure this is what's happened to Kamala, you don't even know what's real.
00:41:23.000There are so many people telling her what to do and how to behave and what to think and what to say.
00:41:28.000You know, I mean, the only thing she has control over are those sneakers.
00:41:33.000And she's never been a genuine person in front of the American people.
00:41:39.000Maybe she was genuine in 2020 when she touted all those left-wing positions that she's now backtracking on, even though she actually still believes in them.
00:41:49.000I don't know what her handlers think people would be voting for other than her identity and the, you know, Democrat Party machine, you know, voting for the people who will be staffed These unelected bureaucrat types.
00:42:04.000You've been writing online for a while, right?
00:42:59.000I mean, I'm sure there's comments rolling in on YouTube like all the time, but if you worry... This is a great line from... Oh, you don't want to know.
00:43:07.000I'm sure they'll light me up right now.
00:43:09.000They're posting eggplant emojis and then your name.
00:43:16.000Uh, Charles Barkley had a great line, um, and he said, and I give credit to him, if you worry about the opinions of people who don't like you, then eventually the people who do like you won't like you either.
00:43:30.000In a similar vein too, there was something interesting that, I think it was Zuby who brought this up, he said a lot of people, I'm paraphrasing because I don't know the exact quote, but a lot of people think that once you get rich, you're untethered, you can say whatever you want, it's actually the opposite.
00:43:42.000There are people who make $60,000 a year who are scared to lose their jobs, so they fall in line, they refuse to speak out.
00:43:47.000These big Hollywood celebrities who make millions of dollars are even more scared to speak out because a fall from grace is much more embarrassing than just getting fired.
00:43:56.000And so the more money they make, the more likely they are to march with the machine.
00:44:13.000You gotta pay your mortgage, you gotta help your kids get through school, all those things.
00:44:17.000If you have $20 million or more, you'll have the rest of your life an amazing life.
00:44:23.000The people that really piss me off are the ones who are rich and are cowards.
00:44:27.000Yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense, too, because it's true.
00:44:30.000If you're working some job and there's human resources and they're going to fire you if you say men aren't women, then that's a lot harder.
00:45:54.000I know, it's a crazy concept, but it's almost as if speaking out really changed the way she was spending, because she was, you know, donating all kinds of super woke causes before.
00:46:03.000But I think some of this is similar to why people like Donald Trump, right?
00:46:07.000Like, he has the money to which he could say, I'm going to live my life however I want to, and he chooses to do something that's pro-America.
00:46:14.000With Kamala Harris, I mean, she is, you know, fundamentally wealthier than most Americans, and she is still looking to everyone around her to say, What can I do for validation and to gain power?
00:46:26.000I would also point out JK Rowling's really good at what she does and that talent ultimately allows you the freedom to do a lot.
00:46:34.000They're making new Harry Potter shows all of a sudden at Warner Brothers.
00:46:37.000They're expanding the theme park there because she's a kick-ass talent.
00:46:41.000And I gotta address this meme that's been going around forever And it's this meme that claims, it says that in the Harry Potter universe, there's a spell that can, it's silent, it's secret, you can just kill anybody, and people aren't just killing each other all the time.
00:46:56.000And for those that aren't familiar with Harry Potter, there is the Killing Curse, which is a component of the story where you can point your wand, say words, and the person dies.
00:47:13.000Rowling, I actually think, did a really great job in writing this.
00:47:16.000The one thing I think is interesting is that she's basically written books about children who have the equivalent of guns, or worse, and they're running around schools.
00:47:41.000People in West Virginia are armed to the teeth.
00:47:43.000Nobody's just walking around shooting each other.
00:47:45.000Whether you can point a wand or a gun at somebody, people don't just kill each other!
00:47:49.000But I believe the criticism and the memes largely come out of, she has turned on the woke left, and they have turned on her, and now Harry Potter must be bad.
00:47:58.000Meanwhile, you also have trans advocates who say things like, you know, J.K.
00:48:04.000Rowling gave us a place to feel like being freaky was normal, and we could just be ourselves, and now we hate her so much, so we're going to divorce J.K.
00:48:15.000And they've been trying to put out versions of her books that don't have her in it, trying to keep her out of properties in that franchise, even though it's 100% her.
00:48:25.000Didn't they keep her out of the reunion?
00:48:28.000There was an HBO reunion and they referenced old interviews with her but she was not in that.
00:48:54.000I think that ultimately what's happening, though, is her talent is so substantial that Warner Brothers has now come back, paid her hundreds of millions of dollars more, and they're saying, please give us more of your content.
00:49:12.000That was the one thing, when I started reading those books with my kid, and I started reading it, I was like, the most brilliant thing in those books is the world.
00:49:20.000You read the books before your kids read them, or no?
00:49:23.000Oh yeah, well he was little and we saw them at a book sale for a dollar each at the at the book sale at the library near my grandma's house and so we bought them all and I started reading them with him when he was like five or something and then I just stayed up all night reading.
00:49:35.000I read them all when I was in law school.
00:50:39.000Could this be why we are seeing the Harris campaign now come out with more egregious and misleading statements?
00:50:47.000Well, did you see at the rally that she had with Biden in Pennsylvania over the weekend, she said something to the effect of, you know, we know this race is going to be very competitive.
00:50:57.000We can't pay attention to polls right now.
00:51:00.000Her campaign at one point was bragging about all these headlines that were saying she was winning in these swing states and she was ahead.
00:51:05.000And now she's telling her supporters like, oh, well, you know, we can't we don't know what the polls are going to say, like just sort of shifting away from them because it's not it's not the headlines that she wants anymore.
00:51:16.000I think what's happening here is the voters in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin are going to decide this race.
00:51:24.000And a lot of those voters are old white guys.
00:51:27.000And Joe Biden was able to convince those old white guys that he was unthreatening and that he would be a very normal president.
00:51:36.000That wasn't true, but he was able to convince them.
00:51:41.000And I think what Nate Silver's prediction reflects is there's starting to be a little bit of panic setting in because those old white guys are looking at Kamala and they're like, this ain't Scranton Joe.
00:51:54.000This is not 80 year old Joe Biden, who's just the same age as Trump, but maybe a little bit less active on Twitter.
00:52:02.000This is Kamala Harris, who doesn't have kids of her own, who is 60 years old herself, kind of weird, not very normal, frankly.
00:52:11.000And I think the data's starting, I think they're starting to panic.
00:52:14.000I think that's why they put out the clip about you.
00:52:16.000I think that's why they got 10 or 15 other clips already saved that they're gonna put out to try to build on this threat of Trump as Hitler.
00:52:26.000You don't think Tim Walz is helping the white men in the Midwest believe in Kamala Harris?
00:52:31.000You know what the problem is with Tim Walz?
00:52:36.000He's such a little puffy man that doesn't seem to have any spine at all.
00:52:43.000I'm trying to imagine him being in the military at all.
00:52:46.000It's just, like, laughable, you know what I mean?
00:52:49.000Yeah, well, that's why they tried to play up this coach thing.
00:52:51.000I mean, maybe you could talk about the impact on sports in American psychology, but they had to immediately shift away from the veteran perspective because it was just not working for obvious reasons.
00:53:02.000And so they're saying Coach Walls, Coach, you know, the only person I know in government who uses that nickname is Tommy Tuberville out of Alabama, who actually is pretty principled and, you know, seems like he projects himself pretty masculine.
00:53:14.000Tim Walz seems like just the annoying suburban president of the HOA who's policing your lawn and not being nice to anyone in the neighborhood.
00:54:03.000He's not even currently coaching kids here.
00:54:05.000It was a quarter century ago, and they're standing there with placards for Coach Walsh.
00:54:10.000I think it's a clear attempt to try to appeal to what I call the Big Ten voters.
00:54:15.000And I don't think that she's going to connect with them at all.
00:54:18.000And I think that data's starting to reflect that she is not.
00:54:22.000And the panic is going to get more intense.
00:54:26.000And if Trump can just stay the course, I think that she's going to self-destruct.
00:54:30.000I wonder if, you know, because people talk about the DNC bump didn't emerge or whatever, but also Donald Trump's been doing a lot of these podcasts.
00:54:41.000He's, you know, let me tell you guys a secret.
00:54:43.000It's not really a secret, but, you know, we work with some advertisers periodically and they, we often hear shock at how well ads perform when they sponsor this show.
00:54:54.000They say, like, you know, we spend twice as much advertising on other platforms or, you know, television, radio, billboard, but IRL, man, he's like, man, you're guys' fans.
00:55:03.000Look at what Matt Gaetz says about the show, not even from an advertising perspective, just he meets people all the time who are big fans.
00:55:26.000Because then if you do, you go to an advertiser and you say, 10 million views is what we're going to get you, and you're going to give us X amount of dollars, and then they sell 10 widgets or whatever.
00:55:36.000They sponsor TimCast, and we're like, here's our viewership.
00:55:38.000And they're like, wow, we sold way more than we normally do for this rate.
00:55:48.000This is where the audience actually, it's where the key demo actually is.
00:55:52.000And these television programs, these cable TV news shows have passive viewers who are either in hotel lobbies or airports, or they're at home and they're not really paying attention.
00:56:07.000And now they're going, oh, Yeah, he's going to where the people are, and I think that's so important.
00:56:12.000It's also reflective of the campaign that he's really been trying to run, you know, repeatedly since 2016.
00:56:17.000I can't believe that this is the third, maybe basically fourth, Don't Pick Trump campaign that the DNC has launched.
00:56:25.000If they were smart, and really what I'm saying is, if Kamala Harris had any charisma or personality, she would go on the equivalent She would go on all these shows.
00:56:33.000She would go and call her daddy, that feminist girl boss whatever podcast.
00:56:37.000She would go to these places that are going to lob her 100 softball questions and people are going to say, but she's cool and trendy.
00:58:04.000did 34 national shows between the two of them in August.
00:58:09.000I think Harris has done fewer interviews than Joe Biden has, and he is notoriously withdrawn from the media.
00:58:19.000I mean, are you telling me that the guy who we think has dementia is better able to talk to the press than you are and you want to be the president?
00:58:27.000You know this Vance Weird campaign they're doing?
00:58:38.000If he was wearing a cowboy hat and would go on shows and just bombastically yell and bang the table and bang a cowbell whenever he was making a point, you could call him all sorts of things and then he'd yell over you.
00:58:52.000Donald Trump talks over people famously, excuse me, excuse me, and then he jumps in.
01:00:12.000But the other thing, too, is they really play up Walz being the stupid white guy, which I don't think really plays that well with voters who are, you know, so many young white men are flocking to Trump.
01:00:26.000They don't want to be the stupid white guy.
01:00:27.000They don't eat You know, tuna fish and mayonnaise tacos.
01:01:18.000With various spices, garlic, onion, peppers, cayenne, whatever.
01:01:22.000But rather than being like, I am a proud Midwesterner and we love casseroles, he instead was like, I am your dumb white sidekick, which is essentially Obama-Biden 2.0.
01:01:32.000That he was this cool guy from the city and, you know, he's going to be our first, you know, black president.
01:01:37.000Except at least Biden had a career going back to the 70s.
01:01:39.000Yeah, except in this case, she has no charm and at least Obama had some charisma and he is untrustworthy and people, even Democrats, know that.
01:01:48.000And we're also all really tired of the stupid white guy trope.
01:01:52.000The camo hat is a perfect example of that.
01:02:50.000You either like them or not like them.
01:02:51.000The trope would be, a guy in a flannel shirt with rolled up sleeves and a mullet, and like a trucker hat, and you'd be like, where do you think that person lives?
01:02:59.000And everyone's gonna be like, the South.
01:03:10.000No one in the South tries to pretend they're from New York.
01:03:13.000Like, no politician, for instance, if you, I don't know who's a successful Southern politician right now, like, Ted Cruz doesn't go to New York City and try to pretend that he's from New York City because it would look ridiculous.
01:04:31.000suddenly realized it was popular, but I think part of that is the insecurity with New York and L.A.
01:04:39.000not realizing that they're not the center of everything that's ever occurred, and not wanting to acknowledge that anything in the middle part of the country could actually be great.
01:05:58.000Like, so many movies are set in New York, people will flock there at Christmas for things, but that's, like, someplace Americans like to visit.
01:06:33.000Let's jump to the story from the New York Post.
01:06:35.000Biden whines, secret service doesn't let me engage with crowds.
01:06:40.000I saw this and I just, it's funny because I can't remember who tweeted it, but they were like, isn't it funny that as soon as Joe Biden drops out of the 2024 race, he just stopped pretending to be president?
01:06:50.000Yeah, he's on vacation for like weeks and weeks.
01:08:09.000That's why he couldn't be held accountable for absconding with classified documents that he wasn't entitled to at the end of his vice presidential term.
01:08:15.000I mean, to have an actual independent counsel say the president of the United States' brain doesn't work well enough for him to be charged with a crime.
01:08:23.000What do you think Joe Biden's legacy is going to be?
01:08:24.000Because that's what I feel like his team is now pivoting into.
01:09:10.000I hope that's a good historical reference for a Civil War nerd like me, but I think, given where we are, the state, you know, breaking up West Virginia and Virginia and everything else, but I think you look at, I think for Biden, Kamala's win would change his legacy tremendously.
01:09:30.000Because then it's he's, oh, he gave up power and passed to the next generation.
01:09:37.000If she loses to Trump, then it's the Jimmy Carter, which is what I think is going to happen.
01:09:41.000But if he wins, he's like the bridge to the next generation.
01:09:45.000They're going to make him a civil rights icon.
01:09:46.000And they're going to say he was the old white male who gave up power for a younger woman of color signifying, you know, all of these things.
01:09:55.000I asked you guys, I'm curious, what happens if Kamala loses?
01:10:30.000And if she were more charismatic she'd be like, she would pivot to sort of what Hillary Clinton was doing
01:10:34.000for a while there, you know, the, I was wronged and I deserve something and it was taken from
01:10:39.000me, so I must rally and charge huge amounts of money for speaking fees, right? She would just
01:10:45.000kind of make money off of being this woman who Trump stole her rightful place in the White House.
01:10:50.000But she's not, she's not charming She's not a good speaker.
01:10:53.000And so in some ways we have to, not me specifically, but someone has to shuffle her off into a position where we can like bring her out to wave at political rallies but not to give us any advice.
01:11:02.000You know what she really could do though?
01:11:04.000She could join up with Ella Emhoff and start attending those knitting clubs at bars on
01:11:09.000the Lower East Side in the back garden.
01:11:11.000And then she could do like little knit Kamala Harris dolls and then those dolls could be
01:11:16.000featured in her niece's children's books.
01:11:18.000And they could just do like a whole new family undertaking of little stupid things.
01:11:24.000I do think her husband might get an intern pregnant if she were to win.
01:11:28.000So that's something we could think about for a new scandal.
01:11:32.000I said if I got to ask Kamala any questions, which I never will, I would love to say, you don't think Donald Trump has the character to be president.
01:12:56.000The head of that agency, I forget who it was, showed up at the inauguration and then Ella Hemhoff got signed.
01:13:02.000But I think it is why Kamala is so insecure.
01:13:07.000Because I think if she were married for a long time and she had kids, That provides you a semblance of normalcy outside of an abnormal arena and so I think it keeps you from getting so wrapped up in your head and concerned about what other people think about you because you actually have someone else who relies on you.
01:13:28.000Kamala's never had anyone in her entire life that has needed her for anything.
01:13:34.000Should we make it a new constitutional amendment you can't run for office unless you have children?
01:13:39.000That would have kept James Buchanan out of it.
01:13:41.000My first one would be you have to be under the age of 65.
01:13:46.000Because I do think that age factors, and if you can't fly in an airplane, 70 I'd be okay with.
01:13:51.000If you can't fly in an airplane, I don't think you should be able to be President of the United States.
01:13:54.000But I do think that having kids is like being religious.
01:15:01.000But there's a better reason other than my personal feelings, which are irrelevant, and it's that they just lie.
01:15:08.000Before someone who seems to have sacrificed everything for the pursuit of power and her professional career, Kamala does seem like a directionless person.
01:15:14.000You started this by asking, where does she go from here?
01:15:30.000And that's sort of fascinating because I think we all kind of agree or at least I definitely feel like she is almost surprised she's in the position she's in at all.
01:15:38.000I mean, I think the fact that she was in a position to run for president was sort of surprising to her.
01:15:43.000She didn't really run a cohesive, intense campaign in 2020.
01:15:47.000It's sort of, you know, she would put out these really liberal policies, but she didn't
01:15:51.000really gain the momentum as someone who's devoted their whole lives to rising to the
01:16:46.000You're not faking the way you react to something that you're passionate about.
01:16:51.000And so when I've seen, to the extent that there is an authentic version of Kamala Harris, it's like, oh, I kind of buy in that she cares about spices, or that she cares about what her Thanksgiving dinner is going to be, or having people over and cooking, or breaking a freaking egg with one hand, which she seems really proud of.
01:17:09.000None of that for politics seems like actually it connects with her, which goes to the question of, did she just kind of end up doing what she did and there wasn't some game plan to it?
01:17:23.000It's just she took the next step every time.
01:17:27.000She's bumbling around, she's politically blind, and she walks on the steel beam and then gets lifted up to the 10th floor and is walking in circles, has no idea what's going on, doesn't want to be there.
01:17:41.000I mean, she's sleeping with the 60-year-old married guy.
01:17:44.000He gets her, and evidently nobody can talk about this, he gets her two jobs that pay her $400,000.
01:18:05.000The reason why I think Kamala losing is so fascinating is because I don't know what she cares about enough to want to do if she didn't have the job.
01:21:34.000It's almost as though the best thing for the United States would be to close the border, become energy independent, and bring American manufacturing back.
01:22:45.000And we're cutting back on Gulf of Mexico drilling for some reason because the Biden and Harris administration doesn't want us to do that anymore.
01:22:52.000So question, because we've talked about this a couple years ago, is this the intentional decline of the United States in order to avoid Thucydides' trap?
01:23:03.000That was sort of the Obama thing, right?
01:23:05.000That was sort of the rumor of Obama, that he thought that his job was to manage the decline of the United States.
01:23:11.000The fear being that with China rising on the global scale, whenever there's a rising economic power that is on the verge of supplanting the dominant power, there is a very high tendency for large-scale war to break out.
01:23:26.000The liberal economic order has believed since the 50s, this is Council on Foreign Relations people, high-level US and European politicians believe, that another world war would end humanity.
01:23:36.000So is this them saying, okay, transfer our assets to China, China's taking over and the United States and move on?
01:23:42.000I actually think China's decline is more dangerous than America's decline.
01:23:47.000And this is where I come in with Where I think Elon Musk is correct.
01:23:52.000You were mentioning like, you know, the climate change and all those things.
01:23:56.000And you asked about kids and presidents and everything else, which I think is an interesting question.
01:24:24.000One of the aspects of history, if you study it, is wars often happen not when countries are at their peak power, but when the peak power has passed and you can see a rapid decline coming.
01:24:37.000Which is why I worry that China, in a decline, begins to act more aggressively than China on the ascent.
01:24:44.000Because if China thought, hey, in 40 years we're going to be the superior economy to the United States, I think they could afford to wait.
01:24:52.000My concern is in 40 years, China is going to be severely diminished.
01:24:57.000And I think my concern on the United States side there is, in 1980, I was mentioning Jimmy Carter, he got defeated to a large, for many reasons, but one was because Iran had taken the hostages.
01:25:12.000And he was so weak that he couldn't get them back.
01:25:16.000Hirsch Goldberg, Poland's mother, spoke at the DNC and a few weeks later Hamas put a bullet in the back of that kid's head.
01:25:24.000They trotted her out on stage to beg for her son's life.
01:25:30.000And Hamas disrespected American power to such an extent and did not fear our retaliation that they put a bullet in that kid's head right after his mom spoke at the DNC.
01:25:46.000Evil, and I do believe Hamas is evil, responds to fear and power.
01:25:53.000They have no fear of us, and they do not believe that we have the power to act.
01:25:58.000Well, and they're kind of right, because, you know, the United States instructed Israel on how to conduct their self-defense and said, you know, stay out of Rafah, and now an American's been killed, an American civilian's been killed.
01:26:10.000Did you see the report that a Kremlin official had said Kamala Harris is more predictable than Trump?
01:26:16.000I think on a lot of fronts internationally, everyone looks at the Biden-Harris administration and the potential Harris-Walz administration as a signal of the downturn of America.
01:26:27.000They know that they can do- Of course it does signal weakness.
01:26:30.000They know they'll be able to do things, and they have been able to do things under Biden, that Trump would just never allow.
01:26:36.000And part of that is just inherent personality.
01:26:38.000Trump is better on the international stage, and he brings more diplomatically to the White House than anyone the Democrats have currently offered up.
01:26:47.000Who, Nancy, fear Trump because they're not sure of what he's going to do?
01:26:51.000And that's one of the best things about Trump, is that he's unpredictable.
01:26:55.000So, you know, if you come out there and do something terrible to the United States, Trump might just be like, ah, nuke him.
01:27:17.000The toughest guy to play poker against is a guy you don't know whether he's bluffing or not.
01:27:23.000And you can make different choices based on that.
01:27:26.000Well, let's play that analogy, because I love it.
01:27:29.000When you're playing against your average player in poker, you have a general idea of the kind of hands they're going to play, the moves they're going to make, and you try to predict them.
01:27:37.000But when someone shows up who doesn't know what they're doing, this is actually fascinating.
01:27:41.000I'll try to explain this in the least jargony way possible.
01:28:12.000So, if two guys are making big bets, they might both have Ace-King.
01:28:16.000And they're blocking each other, it's called.
01:28:17.000So I might play 5-6 suited, which has a lower percentage chance to win, but because they're bumping into each other, I'm going to take them both out.
01:28:24.000The problem arrives when a dude shows up who's dumb as a box of rocks, but loaded, and bets on anything and everything.
01:28:31.000It restricts you to only a very small range of hands to play, because the guy's gonna bet everything no matter what, and there's something called fold equity.
01:29:06.000So Trump had that famous interview, the phone call, where he said, he told Xi and Putin, he told Xi, if you invade Taiwan, I'm going to nuke Beijing.
01:29:14.000And Putin, if you invade Ukraine, I'm going to nuke Moscow.
01:29:16.000He's like, I don't know if they believed me, maybe 5%, but it was enough.
01:29:22.000And that bothers The quote-unquote foreign relations experts, because they want to have their backchannel conversations and say, well, if you do X, then we're going to do Y. But those authoritarians don't respect the general rules.
01:29:39.000And so you need people who are willing to upset the calculus.
01:30:23.000Under Obama, ISIS was growing and growing out of control.
01:30:26.000Trump gets in, Ukraine escalation stops, ISIS obliterated.
01:30:29.000Biden gets back in, everything kicks back off again.
01:30:33.000I mean, this is also true, again, of Russia.
01:30:35.000If you look at the prisoner swap that just happened recently, I think the only American prisoner who wasn't held captive in Russia or detained in Russia before Biden got into office was Paul Whelan, the U.S.
01:30:48.000Everyone else was after Biden was in office.
01:30:52.000You know, you can say all kinds of things.
01:30:53.000There's a lot to be skeptical of that prisoner swap, but I really do think that there's a strategic reason that Americans became more vulnerable to being wrongfully detained in Russia after Biden became president.
01:31:05.000Russia knows Biden is not able to negotiate, and they're looking at Kamala Harris and saying, cool, round two.
01:31:10.000How about the fact that we got Brittany Griner and they got the merchant of death?
01:31:58.000I mean, Brittany Griner, if she wasn't a black lesbian basketball player, would still be, if that was a white guy who did what Brittany Griner did, wasn't an athlete, wasn't famous, that person would still be in prison.
01:32:09.000Do you remember Biden released all the photo ops with her, I don't know, spouse, wife, whatever, from the Oval Office and being like, I was just there having this moment.
01:32:19.000Like, they use that as a celebrity photo op.
01:32:22.000And yet all of these Americans were detained in Russia because of the Biden administration, because he is a weak president.
01:32:29.000Again, Harris is, I would say, probably worse.
01:32:32.000Which is where Trump is right on negotiation.
01:32:34.000The thing that Trump gets better than anybody is leverage.
01:32:38.000You give him, I mean, that's all that real estate guys do, right?
01:32:41.000They find a leverage point and then they exploit it.
01:32:44.000And Trump rightly pointed out that every time we make a trade with a terrorist organization in this way, we just incentivize the arrest of more Americans to create more bargaining chips for Russia or other maladroit actors out there.
01:34:47.000So they did a breakdown of, I think it was Blue Monday, and they were talking to the original band members of New Order, and I forget the name of the guy who sang it, but he was like not a singer.
01:36:08.000Today it's about self-aggrandizement, primarily, I think.
01:36:11.000Except for Taylor Swift, who's amazing.
01:36:14.000Yeah, you know, it's kind of crazy how... I wonder when we look back at the songs that have a big impact compared to where they were at the time.
01:36:25.000I think the impact of Fortunate Son, for instance, is substantially larger after the fact than it was at the time.
01:36:31.000It was a big song, of course, but these days it's like representative of an era of the protest of anti-war, you know?
01:36:39.000I was reading It's the 25th anniversary of the Matrix, right?
01:37:34.000But everything was like, if you were to line up all the decades, it's like, they're all moving in this direction, and then the 80s happens, and then the 90s happens.
01:37:48.000So I had these friends who were visual artists in the 90s, and they were all in New York, and they got a a gig to make the mothership for P-Funk, you know?
01:37:56.000And they got, like, thousands of dollars to make this mothership to come out on stage.
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01:40:57.000Let's say, in the course of this, the conclusion is, actually, He was wrong.
01:41:03.000Libby has the video showing that the dog actually jumped in the air and she tripped and fell backwards.
01:41:07.000It was totally a matter of kicking a dog.
01:41:09.000And there is nothing, no remedy for the news outlet that falsely published that you had to kick the dog so long as you said, at the time we didn't know, you were allowed to keep the article up and continue to make money and share it with no correction.
01:41:32.000And then in the event, you go to court, and you say, the first thing is, when you sue, present to the judge your evidence of why what they're saying is false.
01:41:57.000They just say he didn't know it was false, he's allowed to lie.
01:42:00.000Times v. Sullivan is an outdated First Amendment case, and I've been arguing for a long time that it needs to be updated.
01:42:10.000And, I mean, I worked in media, I still work in media, obviously, ran and still run to a large degree outkick, but I believe there should be consequences when you are beyond negligent.
01:42:25.000In the same way, take it outside of this, if you drive a car, And you are behaving in a manner that is beyond just mere negligence.
01:42:36.000You can be charged with a criminal offense if you hit somebody on a street, right?
01:42:42.000So are you saying criminal charges for defamation?
01:42:45.000No, but there are different standards of gradation beyond mere negligence.
01:43:02.000It's the malice or reckless disregard for the truth.
01:43:04.000But that standard is virtually impossible to meet because they've created public and private figure distinctions.
01:43:11.000There is no public and private distinction when you're driving a car and you hit somebody.
01:43:17.000You're not like, oh, that person, well, that person was famous.
01:43:20.000So they're more deserving of getting hit by a car, so we have a different standard.
01:43:25.000I don't believe in the modern era that there should be a difference between a public and a private figure.
01:43:31.000I think we have to go back and redefine it.
01:43:32.000In the 1960s, most people's name never ended up in the newspaper.
01:43:36.000Right so it would make sense in some way that you would say okay this newspaper which has scads of lawyers reviewing everything before it's published is only writing about public figures because most people's names only appeared with day you were born day you died right nowadays every single person is one viral post away from being the Hawktua girl and everybody in the whole planet knows your name.
01:44:02.000They claimed the Covington Kid was an involuntary public figure, so the standard applied.
01:44:07.000And so what happens on a lot of these cases, Covington Kid's a perfect example.
01:44:11.000Nicholas Sandman, if I remember his name correctly, they settled that case.
01:44:15.000Because CNN and the Washington Post and all those people.
01:45:00.000Somebody needs to take it all the way and allow, because there are several justices who have said, Times v. Sullivan is antiquated based on our modern media era.
01:45:10.000Just for people who don't know, that means if you're a public figure and someone lies about you, you have to be able to prove that they knew they were lying or it was reckless disregard for the truth.
01:45:21.000The problem is, and you also have anti-SLAPP, I don't completely disagree, but there has to be new precedent.
01:45:28.000So the issue is, the corporate press, I'll tell you a story, lied about me.
01:45:33.000One of these activist lefty journalists at a major corporation published fake news.
01:46:07.000I contacted the next outlet and they said, no, no, we did not claim you did this.
01:46:11.000We are only reporting what outlet C said.
01:46:13.000See, we're referencing what they said.
01:46:15.000I go to the next outlet and say, no, no, we're only referencing what outlet Let me give you a good example of this I had in my most recent book.
01:46:20.000A, B, and C, and A cites B, B cites C, C cites A, and argues we are not responsible for this
01:46:26.000information because we are not reporting it.
01:46:29.000We are only referencing it, but it creates this infinite loop.
01:46:53.000How many stricken, positive articles that were negligent have the Washington Post, the New York Times, NPR published about Donald Trump that were beneficial to him that were just negligent in his favor.
01:47:11.000Politico has two articles up right now.
01:47:13.000One saying Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election to help Hillary Clinton and another saying the story that Hillary Clinton was helped by Ukraine is Russian disinformation.
01:47:51.000Because Virginia is going paper ballot.
01:47:54.000This is where I come back and I say, if Virginia ends up super close, and Glenn Youngkin could have added 50,000 votes to Trump, which I think he could have, That could have been the knockout blow.
01:48:30.000And historically, you know, vice presidential candidates don't necessarily guarantee you an election.
01:48:35.000They influence public opinion, but they don't necessarily guarantee electoral votes.
01:48:41.000It's, what I find fascinating about the timing of choosing J.D.
01:48:44.000Vance is, again, he's a fresh politician but he has experience in the Senate and I just, and I always go back to this, everyone who's listening will get so tired of me saying it, but I think Hillbilly Elegy has a profound impact on the American psyche because the people I knew who were referencing it were all, you know, intense liberal women.
01:49:03.000And I think that is a long-term investment in the future of the MAGA movement.
01:49:07.000Glenn Youngkin maybe would have done something, but I don't know that he could really go to bat for Trump the way J.D.
01:49:16.000I actually think coming off of the assassination attempt, Trump wanted somebody who would actually be super conservative behind him to try.
01:49:26.000I mean, I think this factored in on some level if somebody tried to kill him.
01:49:30.000If you know that you've got Nikki Haley in the background.
01:49:35.000Do you sit around and worry that that's going to incentivize that from occurring again?
01:50:21.000We got this super chat from Hotel Lama saying, Trump said he wants to legalize weed on Lex interview, supports the initiative in Florida as an example of how to do it.
01:51:36.000I think you look at a lot of those left coast cities that have legalized weed and It hasn't gone well because I think it's liberalized drug use laws.
01:51:46.000And I used to be a guy who was like, you know, I think you should just legalize and tax most drugs.
01:51:52.000I think that left-wing cities have tried that.
01:51:57.000But if I had to choose between, hey, do you want your kid using alcohol all the time or smoking weed occasionally?
01:52:04.000I'd rather my kid smoke weed occasionally than drink every day, personally.
01:52:08.000I think there's a big faction of the Republican Party that's sort of crunchy in a weird way.
01:52:13.000And the challenge with marijuana is that the way it's classified right now, it's very difficult to study.
01:52:20.000And so it's really one of these things where, like, Generally, I think that all substances can be harmful depending on your personality and your genetic makeup.
01:52:31.000I think making them legalized in a lot of states has encouraged other abuse of drugs and caused a lot of other problems.
01:52:39.000But with marijuana specifically, I think that, you know, if we don't study it, we don't really know how to interpret it.
01:52:47.000And so there's a level of like, I don't know that it should be legal, but I definitely think that we should treat it like something we're studying, which we can't really Well, there's a weird thing, though, with legal weed, which is that since weed got legalized, it's become a hell of a lot stronger and way more intense and crazy.
01:53:05.000And I remember back in the good old days, in the 90s, I'd buy a dime bag and it would have seeds and stems in it.
01:53:12.000And you can't buy stuff like that anymore.
01:53:14.000You can't buy mid-level weed at this point.
01:53:18.000Yeah, yeah, you know, like what they were selling at the coffee shop, whatever.
01:53:22.000But, um, you know, you can't, that doesn't exist.
01:53:25.000So now when kids are getting into legal weed, it's insane.
01:53:33.000I also think it'd be funny if he had said, and I'm going to bomb the cartels.
01:53:38.000Because then you just cover both sides like, yeah, I'm going to get into people who are like mad about the weed, but you're like, okay, we're really going to try to stop fentanyl from coming in and killing 100,000 people.
01:53:47.000New York did this weird thing where they decriminalized weed, and then all the corner bodegas started selling weed with absolutely no regulation.
01:53:56.000And then the state tried to do a thing where You know, the first weed licenses go to people who had been formerly incarcerated for weed charges.
01:54:04.000And they tried to get all the bodegas to stop selling like loose joints and whatever else.
01:54:13.000So now there's like an an illegal yet decriminalized trade in marijuana in every corner store in the city, and there's people who were formerly incarcerated getting prioritized for proper licenses who are actually paying the taxes, thereby getting penalized again.
01:54:31.000You know what's fascinating to me about the weed thing is we basically have eliminated cigarette smoking among young people and replaced it with weed.
01:54:51.000But now they're, you know... It is kind of amazing how we just shift what the morally acceptable... Meanwhile, when we were kids growing up, mom and grandma are just smoking like crazy and the windows are rolled up.
01:55:19.000I would wake up in the morning, I would put on ESPN SportsCenter, because I had to go to bed before the games ended, I would sit and eat my cereal, and I would watch Keith Olbermann on television with Dan Patrick.
01:55:30.000And if you had told me when I was 13, Keith Olbermann will ever know your name, I would have thought that I was the baddest-ass person on the planet.
01:55:47.000And I read it and I'm like, this is maybe a good example for your point about he's over 50, he's never gotten married, he doesn't have any kids, and I think at some point if you get to that age, maybe particularly if you're male, you just get so wrapped up in your own craziness that your world spirals out of control.
01:56:09.000Well, I think the important thing to understand too is When you're young, you have friends by force.
01:56:15.000You make friends because you're in school or... That's a great point.
01:56:18.000Your parents are going someplace and there's other kids in the play area or whatever.
01:56:22.000And so as you get older and you no longer are forced... This is why people after high school, they don't hang out anymore.
01:56:54.000You periodically go on vacation, see some of your old friends and their kids, and then your company is your family.
01:57:00.000For someone like Keith Olbermann, and many people like him, especially what's-her-face, that lady who wakes up in the morning to masturbate, what's her name?
01:57:17.000They're at a point in their lives where friendship is not the same as it used to be, and they attach themselves to social media because they need social interaction, whereas people with kids...
01:57:52.000You cash your social security check, you sit down, you fold every hand until you get aces, and then you bet, and then you win, and you sit there all day.
01:57:59.000That's what they do for their social interaction, and I approve of that.
01:58:02.000There also is studies, you guys may be able to speak to this, women seem better at preserving relationships as they age than men are.
01:58:10.000This is something I hear from my guy friends.
01:58:12.000They'll be like, you're still friends with that person?
01:58:18.000He had this great bit where he said, so a friend of mine recently got divorced and hadn't seen him in a while and decided to go play a round of golf with him.
01:58:27.000And so we went and when I came back, my wife said, so how's he doing?
01:59:36.000Just once in a while to be like, that's what we used to do in college.
01:59:40.000Because there's this meme where it was like, this guy's telling a story where he was like...
01:59:45.000Me and my friends met up after class, we go to my buddy's house, we ordered a couple extra large pepperoni pizzas, brought a bunch of Mountain Dew, played Halo split-screen all night laughing, making jokes.
01:59:58.000It got to about 1 or 2 in the morning, stood up, everybody was laughing and having a good time, went to the door and said, later guys, see ya, we'll play again next week.
02:00:16.000You said that story ages ago, and now I think about it all the time, and I'll be like, oh, is this the last time I'm going to do this with my kid?
02:00:25.000The thing is, men and women socialize differently.
02:00:28.000If you've read the book Men Are From Mars and Women Are From Venus, John Gray talks about the fact that men go to lunch to solve a problem.
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02:03:26.000It's been so fun having you here, Olivia.