Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Tim Pool Announces Legal Action Against Harris Campaign For Defamation w-Clay Travis| Timcast IRLTim Pool Announces Legal Action Against Harris Campaign For Defamation w-Clay Travis| Timcast IRL

00:00:00.000 I made the announcement this morning, but I am going to state it again at the beginning

00:00:21.000 of the show, and we'll get into detail as to why.

00:00:23.000 I have engaged my legal team to begin the process to sue Kamala Harris and her campaign for defamation that I believe is so shockingly egregious.

00:00:34.000 I'm not sure that there could be any... I'm not sure...

00:00:37.000 The statement they made about me could be any more extreme.

00:00:40.000 I believe it is the most egregious it could possibly be.

00:00:43.000 We'll get into that on the show, and I'll explain where we're currently at, and what they said.

00:00:47.000 It took a clip from the show out of context, and then just barreled on a bunch of insane fabrications, accusing me of calling for the, what is tantamount to genocide among those who refuse to support Trump if he wins.

00:01:01.000 And it is false, defamatory in the extreme, and again, we'll discuss that.

00:01:05.000 But I want to talk about a lot more than that.

00:01:06.000 Because the question around this is more than just about me personally, and that we will be... I'll stress this right now.

00:01:16.000 Lawyers are engaged.

00:01:17.000 They are doing the work.

00:01:19.000 We will file when we file, but it is our full intention to go the full route, file the lawsuit.

00:01:25.000 I'm very, very angry about this.

00:01:27.000 But there are a lot of stories around Kamala Harris right now, particularly with claims of deceit. 0.62

00:01:33.000 Lies. 0.99

00:01:34.000 We got a story out of Philadelphia where an ad campaign popped up all over the city claiming that Kamala was the official candidate of the Philadelphia Eagles.

00:01:42.000 The Eagles said this is a lie.

00:01:43.000 This is not true.

00:01:44.000 We don't know.

00:01:45.000 I'm not saying that Kamala Harris put those things up.

00:01:47.000 We don't know who did.

00:01:48.000 But she's also been accused of spreading the suckers hoax about Donald Trump and soldiers. 1.00

00:01:54.000 We'll talk about that.

00:01:55.000 And then in the news, Nate Silver is predicting Donald Trump to win right now at around 57%, which is huge.

00:02:00.000 Looking at the polling with some polls showing that Trump is going to win.

00:02:04.000 The blue wall states, they call it.

00:02:05.000 We'll talk about that.

00:02:06.000 We got a story about Chicago, Venezuelan migrants, migrants taking over an apartment building. 0.91

00:02:10.000 And then we got some really big news.

00:02:11.000 Turkey wants to join BRICS.

00:02:13.000 A video of naval U.S.

00:02:16.000 service members being attacked.

00:02:18.000 One man having a bag pulled over and said, in Turkey, things are getting absolutely crazy.

00:02:22.000 And a lot more.

00:02:23.000 Biden saying the Secret Service won't let him go outside anymore.

00:02:25.000 Won't let him go to big rallies.

00:02:27.000 Before we get started, my friends, head over to Casperoo.com, support our work with buying coffee, but more importantly, go to TimCast.com, click join us, become a member, because if you support the work that we're doing, and we are going to need your support now more than ever, we need you guys to go to TimCast.com and click join us and become a member.

00:02:27.000 We'll talk about that.

00:02:48.000 Lawsuits are expensive, and I do not make this decision lightly.

00:02:52.000 My family is distressed.

00:02:54.000 They're extremely angry.

00:02:56.000 We'll get into, again, the story in just a minute, but we're going to need help to be able to fight through this one, and we don't know what's going to happen.

00:03:05.000 We don't.

00:03:06.000 We just know one thing for sure, it's going to be extremely expensive and I made the decision to move forward on this without knowing whether or not you guys would be backing us in our endeavors at this company.

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00:03:27.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Clay Travis.

00:03:30.000 Appreciate you guys having me.

00:03:32.000 It's going to be a lot of fun.

00:03:34.000 Sounds like a wild time to be swinging by.

00:03:38.000 I'm on for three hours every day.

00:03:39.000 When I'm at it, three hours here with you guys tonight.

00:03:42.000 I'm excited to be here.

00:03:44.000 And we got, what, nine weeks in a day?

00:03:47.000 That's crazy.

00:03:48.000 Nine weeks in a day.

00:03:50.000 64 tomorrow by the time people wake up, we'll be officially nine weeks out.

00:03:54.000 So where do you primarily, I guess, where's your show and what do you primarily cover?

00:03:59.000 Yeah, so I do the Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show every day from noon to 3 Eastern on 500-some-odd AM FM stations.

00:04:08.000 We took over after Russian Limbaugh died, so I've been working with Buck for a little bit over three years now daily.

00:04:13.000 But I come out of the world of sports.

00:04:16.000 I love football.

00:04:17.000 We're football season here.

00:04:19.000 And I run, still, Outkick.com, which I would say is a sane version of sports if people have not checked it out before.

00:04:29.000 And I sold that company to Fox about three years ago.

00:04:33.000 And so I run Outkick.

00:04:35.000 I do three hours of daily radio with Buck.

00:04:37.000 I still do a lot of sports.

00:04:40.000 And I'm on Fox News fairly regularly as a part of them buying Outkick.

00:04:44.000 So I feel like I've got like 20 jobs.

00:04:47.000 And the best is I get to say exactly what I think.

00:04:50.000 And in this world, that to me is the ultimate privilege because there's so many people out there.

00:04:56.000 Probably number one thing I hear when I'm out and about is you say what I wish I could say.

00:05:00.000 And I'm sure for a huge percentage of your audience, people have to make a mortgage payments.

00:05:04.000 They got to take care of their kids.

00:05:06.000 They can't necessarily fight back against all the chaos they see every day.

00:05:10.000 So I feel incredibly fortunate to get to speak for a lot of people who don't feel like they have that luxury.

00:05:15.000 Right on.

00:05:16.000 Should be fun.

00:05:16.000 Thanks for hanging out.

00:05:17.000 I appreciate y'all having me.

00:05:18.000 We got Libby hanging out.

00:05:19.000 I'm Libby Emmons with Post Millennial.

00:05:21.000 I'm glad to be here hanging out.

00:05:22.000 I'm glad you're hanging out, too.

00:05:24.000 I think you sound exactly like a sports broadcaster.

00:05:27.000 Every time you talk, I just think, yes, of course this guy wrote about football.

00:05:30.000 Well, think about how crazy it is.

00:05:32.000 You used to be able to just say, hey, you know, I think so-and-so is going to win the game.

00:05:35.000 And then I would say COVID happened.

00:05:38.000 And in many ways, the fact that they, I'm still not over it, but the fact that they didn't let kids play high school sports, the fact that some blue states demanded that if you played basketball, you had to wear a mask while you're doing it.

00:05:50.000 And now they want to snap their fingers, you know, sort of mission men in black style and just pretend none of this ever happened.

00:05:57.000 They're over it.

00:05:57.000 They don't want to talk about it anymore.

00:05:58.000 They don't want to talk about the fact they were wrong on everything.

00:06:00.000 So that's where I came from.

00:06:02.000 I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.

00:06:03.000 I'm a writer for SCNR.com.

00:06:04.000 That's SCNR News.

00:06:05.000 Check out our work at Tim Kess News on the internet.

00:06:07.000 Let's get started.

00:06:08.000 Here's the story from the Post Millennial.

00:06:10.000 Tim Pool announces plan to sue Kamala Harris campaign for defamation.

00:06:14.000 Because even though I'm literally sitting here and I'm going to tell you all about it, we always source our stories.

00:06:18.000 Libby, do you know about this source?

00:06:19.000 Have you heard of it before?

00:06:21.000 Not only have I heard about this source, but I wrote this story.

00:06:24.000 Indeed.

00:06:24.000 Wow, that's incredible.

00:06:26.000 So we'll cut to the chase.

00:06:27.000 I tweeted I've engaged legal counsel.

00:06:29.000 We are preparing to take action.

00:06:30.000 More to come.

00:06:30.000 There's a lot that I cannot discuss for obvious reasons, and I will stress that in most circumstances, and basically in all of them, where you've heard me discuss our legal challenges, legal issues, our lawsuits, we never discuss details.

00:06:45.000 However, this story is largely political.

00:06:48.000 It is a massively viral video from Kamala HQ that has 11.5 million views.

00:06:54.000 So this wasn't one of their passive posts.

00:06:56.000 This is one of their... I should just say it's a very large post.

00:06:59.000 The Harris campaign posted, Trump operatives say their Project 2025 plan is to give Trump total unchecked legal power so they can jail and execute those who don't support Trump.

00:07:11.000 If he wins, they have since scrubbed this video from YouTube.

00:07:15.000 So I'm just going to come out right and say, I am not a Trump operative.

00:07:18.000 I have never received any money from Trump, Trump's associates, or anything to do with Donald Trump.

00:07:23.000 This company has received zero investment.

00:07:25.000 This company is built from the ground up from my personal savings at first, then sponsorship revenue, which came from various companies like, you know, gold companies and things like that.

00:07:35.000 But largely programmatic ads that I don't even know what they are.

00:07:38.000 So when these videos appear on YouTube, YouTube runs ads.

00:07:40.000 I don't know what they are.

00:07:42.000 Using that money to invest, I have received no money from anybody.

00:07:44.000 I have nothing to do with Project 2025.

00:07:46.000 I have zero association at all with anybody.

00:07:49.000 Anything to do with this in any... The closest thing is, they've appeared on the show at some point.

00:07:56.000 But in any way, having to do with Project 25 is absurd and not true.

00:07:59.000 I have never called for total unchecked legal power for anyone.

00:08:03.000 In fact, I've argued against it.

00:08:04.000 And I oppose the death penalty in all circumstances.

00:08:07.000 And I've routinely argued on this show the death penalty is wrong and I do not trust the government to decide who gets to live and die.

00:08:12.000 To make the claim that I am calling for that is shockingly insane.

00:08:16.000 I do not believe there is a more extreme thing you could say about a person other than to indicate they were calling for the genocide of political factions in a country that refuse to support a presidential candidate should he win.

00:08:28.000 And for this, we are pursuing this legal action.

00:08:34.000 There's a lot more we can talk about, I suppose, in this.

00:08:38.000 Laura Loomer was also in the show.

00:08:41.000 One interesting thing I can say.

00:08:43.000 Laura Loomer, at the end of this clip, it's a show I believe is from June 1st.

00:08:48.000 Let me play a little bit for you, and you can hear the context, and then I can explain what the full show actually was discussing.

00:08:54.000 Should Democrats be in jail?

00:08:55.000 No question.

00:08:56.000 When Donald Trump gets elected, should he start locking them up?

00:08:58.000 No question.

00:08:59.000 Should there be lists of Democrats that need to go to jail?

00:09:01.000 The reason for that is they've committed crimes.

00:09:04.000 We need to make sure that when Donald Trump wins, we've got An attorney general, a deputy attorney general, a head of the CIA and the FBI.

00:09:13.000 Kash Patel would be fantastic.

00:09:15.000 We can have attorney general, there's some names floating around.

00:09:17.000 And then they can start having their investigators and the feds issuing subpoenas, pulling up evidence, and with real evidence, bring them to judges for warrants.

00:09:27.000 Then these people can spend three years of their lives fighting tooth and nail for the crime against the government, for crimes they committed, and we can prove.

00:09:36.000 And the reason why we put them on trial is that we can show the whole world, we will uncover what you've done, we will make sure everyone knows, and you will be held accountable for it.

00:09:45.000 Not just jail, they should get the death penalty.

00:09:47.000 You know, we actually used to have the punishment for treason in this country.

00:09:51.000 And then the show ends, and I'll tell you why.

00:09:53.000 It's because we do not allow calls for violence on this show, allusions to violence.

00:09:57.000 We do not call for the death penalty on this show.

00:10:00.000 That is not allowed.

00:10:00.000 The show is in its full on Rumble, iTunes, Spotify, and all their podcast platforms.

00:10:06.000 It wasn't scrubbed because any of us were concerned about I don't know what they're trying to imply by saying we scrubbed it, but I'll give you the context.

00:10:15.000 This is about Sean Davis of The Federalist, who said he wants to see lists of Democrats that will be arrested when Trump wins.

00:10:22.000 The point I'm making, as you can hear, but they've excluded the context before this minute-long clip, is I said, make sure that there's evidence, real evidence.

00:10:33.000 The point was this.

00:10:34.000 Sean Davis said he wanted to see a list of Democrats who Trump was going to arrest.

00:10:38.000 Later on, we even had Steve Bannon say there need to be arrests of 10 high-ranking Democrats who have committed crimes.

00:10:44.000 My point is this.

00:10:46.000 If you are going to say that there are going to be arrests of Democrats, you need to have real evidence.

00:10:51.000 And warrants and investigations and prove those crimes.

00:10:56.000 That was the context of this.

00:10:58.000 I oppose the death penalty.

00:11:00.000 Later on in the show, as the show continues, which they could have chosen to show if they wanted to, I say there's not even treason here.

00:11:06.000 It's seditious conspiracy at worst.

00:11:09.000 These are people who are trying to subvert government for personal gain or benefit.

00:11:12.000 They're not aiding enemies of this country.

00:11:14.000 And that's the context of what we were talking about.

00:11:18.000 Now, as I stated, normally I don't talk about our legal issues, but this is Look, I'll just tell you, I'm hanging out with family over Labor Day weekend and all of a sudden my phone's blowing up with family members freaking out.

00:11:29.000 People are freaking out over this.

00:11:31.000 And I'm getting messages and all that stuff.

00:11:34.000 Because to argue that I, and this is an important distinction, I never said anything about death penalty or treason.

00:11:41.000 I oppose all of those things.

00:11:42.000 And Laura Loomer, again interesting, never actually called for anyone to arrest or jail anyone, which is interesting.

00:11:50.000 We're two totally different people.

00:11:51.000 We don't work together.

00:11:52.000 She's appeared on the show as a guest.

00:11:54.000 So this claim is that they are accusing me in this clip of saying that Trump should commit what is tantamount to genocide. 0.95

00:12:04.000 That should he win, people who won't support him should get executed. 0.98

00:12:07.000 And that is absolutely, absolutely insane. 0.98

00:12:10.000 And I don't think there's anything worse you could accuse a person of doing.

00:12:14.000 To me, this is actually a sign of Kamala Harris's campaign desperation. 1.00

00:12:22.000 Leaving aside, I understand why you would be outraged, I mean, for them to have shared this about you, for it to have been seen by eleven and a half million people.

00:12:30.000 And that's not including reposts and shares from their account, which we can't track.

00:12:35.000 But this is, to me, is a calculated attempt that they have clearly made to try and make Project 2025 their focal point of attack on Trump.

00:12:48.000 And so you said this occurred when?

00:12:50.000 I believe the show was from June 1st.

00:12:53.000 So June 1st.

00:12:54.000 So they have had this, I really believe, for months, and they decided, as the polls have started to slip, and as Kamala Harris's sugar high has begun to diminish, I just look at this purely from a strategy perspective.

00:13:09.000 This, to me, is an attempt to change the storyline from They're misguided attacks related to Abbey Gate and everything that happened at Arlington National Cemetery and try to put this into the Democrat media spin cycle and turn Project 2025 and Trump back into the Hitler of his era, right? 0.73

00:13:30.000 This is calculated language by them designed to send that message to all the followers.

00:13:34.000 That's what I take away, not on a particular basis.

00:13:38.000 I don't know about you guys, but that's what strikes me when I see that her official campaign account shared this.

00:13:45.000 I'm shocked by this.

00:13:46.000 They did the exact same thing to Charlie Kirk.

00:13:48.000 They said, MAGA operative endorses Trump's Project 2025 to give Trump total control over Americans' lives.

00:13:56.000 Put the president entirely in charge of the government.

00:13:58.000 And that's not what Charlie Kirk was saying at all.

00:14:01.000 He wasn't, you know, doing that.

00:14:02.000 And Trump also has said that he's not affiliated with Project 2025.

00:14:06.000 I was on the show one night with a Project 2025 person who's no longer with the project, with Heritage Foundation, who said unequivocally that it was not a Trump project, that it was not part of that.

00:14:17.000 They've been working on this for years.

00:14:19.000 It coincided with Trump's campaign, but it's not the same thing.

00:14:23.000 And it's an effort, too, to paint the entire conservative side and the Republican side as though there's just one voice.

00:14:30.000 And if you think about it, that's what they do with all groups of people.

00:14:33.000 They assume that every group of people is a monolith.

00:14:36.000 That doesn't have individuals that can speak for themselves or have their own ideas or ideals or values or thoughts, you know, or plans.

00:14:45.000 And I think that that's one of the most dangerous things about the Democratic left today, is that they assume people who have similarities that they identify, similar identifiers, you know, should all be shuffled into affinity groups and not be really permitted to have their own thoughts.

00:15:04.000 Right, I think so much of it is fear-mongering, right?

00:15:06.000 I mean, all of this is to make it look like this show is an extremist outlet, and that if you listen to anything from it, if anyone you know references this show, that they are actually supporting very extreme...

00:15:20.000 Calls for violence, which is inherently not true.

00:15:22.000 I mean, we've already talked about that.

00:15:23.000 And I think so much of the Democratic left in America relies on fear and compliance.

00:15:28.000 They don't want anyone to check where any clips are coming from.

00:15:32.000 They want people like Charlie Kirk or Tim to be these, you know, shadowy figures who, if you reference them, actually, that's a signal that you're, you know, deranged and no one should trust you.

00:15:42.000 And I think that is very, very Totalitarian, and people should be afraid of that.

00:15:47.000 But again, this fear of being associated with the wrong people is so inherently bred into American culture right now that it's difficult for the general public to walk away from it.

00:15:55.000 I don't know how this country survives like this.

00:15:58.000 We've got a bunch of stories, but you know, for the past 10 years, there has not been reality in this country.

00:16:05.000 And what I mean to say is that certainly I think there is objective reality.

00:16:09.000 I think things are true, and I think we can prove them beyond a reasonable doubt.

00:16:14.000 I would argue that the corporate press has been lying about the majority of political circumstances, as we can see here.

00:16:22.000 We'll see how the media reports on this one.

00:16:24.000 There's been some reporting on this.

00:16:27.000 But since Trump started running in the first place, there has not been real news.

00:16:32.000 It has been fractured.

00:16:33.000 There have been corporate news outlets that lie and manipulate, and we can definitively prove that they do.

00:16:42.000 Look, it's personal.

00:16:43.000 Okay?

00:16:45.000 The Kamala campaign said this about me.

00:16:46.000 Yeah.

00:16:47.000 And the lie, it's not Trump spilling food into a fishbowl.

00:16:50.000 It's not Donald Trump praising bad people.

00:16:53.000 I mean, those are shockingly egregious.

00:16:55.000 It's not Donald Trump saying, inject bleach, an insane thing to accuse someone of doing.

00:16:59.000 It's crazy, I have a family member say, the frontrunner for the largest, the candidate for the largest political party in this country, On their official campaign account, to 10 plus million people, has accused you of calling for the mass execution, the killing, extra-legally, of Democrat voters, if they won't back Trump should he win.

00:17:24.000 This is insane.

00:17:26.000 I mean, my family is so pissed off about this.

00:17:31.000 To see that, I'm like, I'm at a loss for words.

00:17:37.000 I can certainly speak, but...

00:17:39.000 It's crazy to think that we are at this point in this country where the Democratic campaign is doing this.

00:17:47.000 Now, real quick, there's some questions about how does it get so bad?

00:17:50.000 Well, I'll leave it to the lawyers, discovery, whatever ends up happening.

00:17:55.000 But how?

00:17:56.000 I can only assume it was intentional.

00:17:59.000 I will tell you, as a lawyer, there's no way that some 19-year-old intern got sent a clip and posted it from Kamala Harris' account without it being signed off on to the nth degree.

00:18:14.000 I bet eight people have to see every tweet before they send it out.

00:18:19.000 It has to be signed off on.

00:18:20.000 I guarantee you, again, To me, your point I think is a really good one.

00:18:29.000 We live in a world now where you can't trust the vast majority of the media that is shared on a day-to-day basis.

00:18:39.000 And we have a candidate.

00:18:42.000 Kamala Harris, who has been expressly clear that she doesn't believe that Twitter should be allowed basically to exist as it does, and a president and a vice president, she and Biden, who tried to restrict what we could say about COVID.

00:19:01.000 To me, this is a First Amendment election.

00:19:03.000 I understand there's lots of people out there with a lot of opinions on economy, border crime, abortion, you know, whatever you want to talk about.

00:19:10.000 If you don't have the ability to have real debates in this country, there is no freedom.

00:19:16.000 And I think they've recognized that, and I think they're trying to curtail discussions.

00:19:22.000 and attack people who have discussions to try to restrict the mass flow of information in this country.

00:19:28.000 And that's why, to me, ultimately, if you believe in the First Amendment, this is an easy decision.

00:19:33.000 So when it comes to presidential campaigns, you know, you just said you think eight people had to have signed off on it.

00:19:39.000 At least.

00:19:40.000 I think that, I think that that, yes, sorry.

00:19:42.000 So you're basically, what I'm wondering is, you're saying that as a large presidential campaign, that spend, they spend what a billion plus dollars in these

00:19:51.000 campaigns? They're having multiple levels of PR scrutiny on everything they're doing. So with

00:19:58.000 something like this, in your view, they signed off on that intentionally. Yes, and I think

00:20:04.000 they have 15 videos like this that they have prepared over the next two months on a

00:20:10.000 calculated basis to try to take control of the narrative news cycle.

00:20:14.000 and...

00:20:15.000 And I, again, to me, it's significant that you said it in June or whatever the date is now.

00:20:21.000 They, they have had this video for some time and I think they have, I bet they have 10 of them.

00:20:27.000 I don't know.

00:20:27.000 they had posted it once before. Maybe I'm totally off on that, but I remember, I mean, it was like

00:20:32.000 that night was kind of a big deal because we don't pull the show that often and, you know, whatever.

00:20:36.000 And I thought I had seen it on X before. Maybe it wasn't Kamala's official account.

00:20:40.000 No, Destiny had posted it.

00:20:41.000 Maybe it was Destiny. But like, it's not that this wasn't, you know, this is a clip they either saw

00:20:46.000 live, hi Kamala Harris's campaign, or, you know, they saw it on X previously and clipped it knowing

00:20:51.000 that they wanted to hold on to this because I think you're right.

00:20:53.000 I think especially after the DNC dip, you know, she didn't really gain any more momentum for that.

00:20:58.000 There is this honeymoon period that has really closed on her, and now instead of having to give policies they're trying to stick to.

00:21:06.000 Trump is the enemy at all costs.

00:21:07.000 Anyone who talks about Trump positively is actually promoting discord in America

00:21:10.000 and you must fear them and resist them at all costs.

00:21:13.000 It keeps her from having to be an actual candidate.

00:21:15.000 The other thing too that you have to remember about Kamala's campaign

00:21:18.000 is that they have over 175 digital staffers, right, who are online all the time,

00:21:24.000 specifically looking for ways to attack Trump.

00:21:27.000 So, you know, they've been doing this for a while.

00:21:29.000 This is part of their game plan.

00:21:31.000 It's probably their only game plan.

00:21:33.000 She can't sit for interviews effectively. 0.99

00:21:35.000 That interview last week was a disaster.

00:21:38.000 She spoke for, I think, 18 minutes and the airtime was what, like, over 40 minutes on CNN.

00:21:44.000 A lot of it was repeats. 0.92

00:21:45.000 I mean, it was ridiculous. 0.92

00:21:47.000 She won't take a press conference. 0.95

00:21:49.000 She will barely talk to reporters. 0.99

00:21:51.000 Every time she does, there's some kind of gaffe. 0.99

00:21:53.000 And when she releases any kind of policy proposal, it's either stolen directly from Trump or some kind of weird socialist economic plan that will lead to starvation and famine.

00:22:04.000 So they don't have any plans other than to attack not just Trump, but Trump's voters.

00:22:10.000 And I think what's really important about that, too, is it shows you just what she thinks and what her campaign thinks and what this democratic machine thinks of your average American who's just walking around living their lives, you know, looking for the right person to vote for who they think should leave the country.

00:22:27.000 And they don't have anything to say to those people.

00:22:29.000 They hate those people.

00:22:30.000 Let's jump to this next story from USA Today.

00:22:33.000 Philadelphia Eagles work to remove bogus political ads purporting to endorse Kamala Harris.

00:22:38.000 This is insane!

00:22:41.000 Okay, look, the previous segment is about the Kamala Harris accusations or false statements, false declarations about me.

00:22:50.000 But now we are looking at this extreme degree.

00:22:54.000 Eagles Nation posting a photo of a billboard found in Philly of the Eagles appearing to endorse Kamala Harris.

00:23:00.000 The team has not made any sort of official announcement, and their voting resource website listed on it hasn't been updated since the primary elections.

00:23:07.000 It's Kamala wearing Eagles gear, and it says, Kamala, official candidate of the Philadelphia Eagles.

00:23:12.000 Now, we don't know who posted these, but I gotta tell you, these are on bus stops in Philadelphia.

00:23:19.000 This is either Someone at an official capacity with lots of money reached out to a large brokerage firm.

00:23:26.000 We do ads here.

00:23:29.000 We started in 2022 with big billboard spends in Chicago and Times Square, and we've done Google ads since then.

00:23:35.000 It was when we first started doing marketing for the show, believe it or not.

00:23:38.000 And so I've worked with big advertising agencies and brokers.

00:23:42.000 They know exactly who did this.

00:23:45.000 There are speculation, so I'll say the Eagles have denied it, saying, this is not us, we do not endorse Kamala Harris.

00:23:51.000 Some people have suggested that the Eagles did endorse her, but following a major backlash, they're now acting like they didn't.

00:23:58.000 I don't know if I would believe that to be true, that's kind of insane.

00:24:01.000 But then the other argument would be, someone, look, I'll put it this way.

00:24:08.000 I have an agent.

00:24:09.000 I call this agent who represents a large firm that owns real estate all over the country.

00:24:15.000 They know who I am.

00:24:16.000 I have to sign a bunch of crazy paperwork.

00:24:19.000 I have to give them a lot of money.

00:24:21.000 So when we bought these ads in Times Square, the first ad was $60,000.

00:24:25.000 I have to give them the money first, and then, in two months, they'll put the ad up.

00:24:31.000 They know exactly who I am.

00:24:32.000 They have all of my personal details.

00:24:34.000 These are massive spends.

00:24:36.000 Now, I don't know how many of these were bought, but you usually don't spend a little bit of money when you're doing campaigns like this.

00:24:43.000 When I was discussing bus ads in New York City, not Philadelphia, but New York City, the minimum buy they sent to me was $250,000.

00:24:51.000 There is no way I can imagine this happening, but maybe I'm wrong.

00:24:56.000 I don't know what you think.

00:24:57.000 I think this is potentially, this is my theory, the greatest Dallas Cowboy fan troll job of all time.

00:25:05.000 So I'm thinking, so for people out there who are not diehard sports fans, I am.

00:25:09.000 The NFL kicks off on Thursday.

00:25:11.000 The Philadelphia Eagles are in the NFC East.

00:25:14.000 Their rivals are the New York Giants.

00:25:16.000 New York's a blue state.

00:25:18.000 The Washington Redskins, what do you want to call them now?

00:25:20.000 The Commanders.

00:25:22.000 You know, that is by and large, yeah.

00:25:25.000 That is the worst mascot of all time that they now have running around.

00:25:32.000 But that's a D.C.

00:25:33.000 area probably left.

00:25:35.000 And then you've got red state Dallas Cowboys.

00:25:39.000 If you were in advertising and you were drinking, let's just toss it out, in Dallas and you were like, man, screw Kamala Harris. 0.96

00:25:49.000 She's the worst.

00:25:51.000 Who's the worst team in our division? 0.88

00:25:53.000 It's the Eagles.

00:25:54.000 We should do Kamala endorses the Eagles or the Eagles endorse Kamala ads and I would put my money on this being some form of Dallas Cowboy, not the official team, but Dallas Cowboy fan pranks.

00:26:09.000 You actually think so?

00:26:10.000 That would be my theory because I don't think that you could get through this ad without Being intentionally trying to ridicule them.

00:26:20.000 You would get fired.

00:26:21.000 The issue is that ad companies, when they take advertisements, they check all the artwork.

00:26:27.000 They go through everything.

00:26:28.000 They make sure that it's not copyrighted.

00:26:30.000 They make sure that you have the rights to it.

00:26:32.000 I tried to get like a t-shirt made, me and my kid, at like, I don't know, Uniqlo or whatever.

00:26:38.000 And he wanted to put some video game logo on it, just hand-drawn.

00:26:41.000 He drew it.

00:26:42.000 And they were like, we can't put that on.

00:26:43.000 That's copyrighted.

00:26:44.000 It's not your art.

00:26:47.000 I used to work in advertising for like five minutes before I got fired.

00:26:54.000 You need to check all the art.

00:26:55.000 This has got the Eagles logo on it.

00:26:55.000 Correct.

00:26:57.000 It's got the logo on it.

00:26:58.000 You can't do that.

00:26:59.000 I cannot do that.

00:27:00.000 So we tried running an ad.

00:27:03.000 In a variety of fashions.

00:27:05.000 This is back when Twitter was refusing to take this back when Twitter was Twitter.

00:27:08.000 Before Elon bought it.

00:27:08.000 Yeah.

00:27:09.000 And when they were running child abuse material.

00:27:12.000 It was a big story.

00:27:14.000 And so I reached out and I said, can we get a billboard that reads about Twitter?

00:27:18.000 And they said, no.

00:27:20.000 And I said, why not?

00:27:22.000 You don't have the rights to that brand and we won't run an ad that says that word.

00:27:25.000 And I said, okay, well, hold on.

00:27:27.000 What if we rephrase it?

00:27:29.000 And then they were like, here's how you have to restructure it to avoid copyright issues.

00:27:32.000 And I was like, well, then we're not running the ad at all.

00:27:34.000 It was basically, it was going to be an activist protest billboard, but they were like copyright.

00:27:39.000 And I forgot what they said for the other thing was obscenity or something like that.

00:27:43.000 So the word was child abuser, you know, but they don't want that on their billboards.

00:27:50.000 Now, granted, this is just the Eagles logo.

00:27:52.000 Yeah.

00:27:53.000 But you're not, you are not submitting that.

00:27:55.000 So the argument could be that someone got a bunch of these printed up and then broke into those boxes to add, how, you'd have to know how to do that?

00:28:04.000 There's an artist that they were saying, and I can't remember his name, but who does similar styled art and he's done it with like Nike, but it's all pro-Joe Biden, right?

00:28:12.000 So the idea that this was made by someone who kind of uses commercial logos or whatever in their art isn't, you know, entirely unreasonable.

00:28:21.000 And I would go back to, I assume to get them all up so quickly and informally, you would have to have some kind of advertising connection.

00:28:27.000 You'd have to know how to get these things placed.

00:28:29.000 But you made me laugh before the show because you were saying that saying your team supports Kamala Harris is like a college football insult right now.

00:28:39.000 I'm a huge college football fan.

00:28:39.000 It is!

00:28:41.000 Notre Dame just played against Texas A&M down in Texas and a bunch of the frats had Notre Dame endorses Kamala Harris basically huge signs that they hung outside of the fraternity houses.

00:28:55.000 Sororities too.

00:28:56.000 So the idea that you would endorse Kamala Harris is an insult in many sections of college football right now.

00:29:04.000 And so that's why I'm thinking, again, Dallas Cowboys trolling.

00:29:09.000 Now you may be well right that the logos, maybe they didn't expect it to work.

00:29:14.000 You know, it's an error in judgment that somebody allowed it to be put up.

00:29:17.000 I'm fascinated by this story.

00:29:19.000 I've seen some statements that there's more than one.

00:29:22.000 This USA Today article says at least one.

00:29:25.000 Yeah.

00:29:25.000 If there's one, someone broke it in the machine and put it in there somehow.

00:29:29.000 Someone who knew how these things worked got in there.

00:29:32.000 I think this is one of those that rolls.

00:29:33.000 I don't know.

00:29:35.000 It's on the SEPTA, Southeastern Pennsylvania Transportation Authority.

00:29:39.000 It's the kind that flips to different ads on rollers.

00:29:41.000 Yeah, I think it has those.

00:29:42.000 Some of them have those.

00:29:44.000 But it would be hard to get in there.

00:29:46.000 If it's a roller, I don't know how you break into that.

00:29:49.000 I mean, that's sophisticated. 0.99

00:29:50.000 Remember they had that idiot would-be Josh Shapiro ad where he was going to be VP, and it leaked. 0.99

00:29:50.000 Here's the other thing. 0.99

00:30:01.000 And then they were like, oh, who did this?

00:30:02.000 Philadelphia Mayor Sherelle Harper. 0.95

00:30:05.000 So yeah, I wonder if it could be connected in some way, the same idiot That made that video and somehow got it released for Josh Shapiro, whether simultaneously they were doing eagle-related ads. 0.89

00:30:20.000 They didn't get the right approval, but they have the ability to upload things and this thing got out there. 0.94

00:30:26.000 I want to know the full story. 0.98

00:30:29.000 I really want to know if it's a prank or if somebody's an idiot and they thought, oh, we're in a battleground state. 1.00

00:30:35.000 Turnout in Philadelphia might well decide the presidential election. 1.00

00:30:38.000 Philadelphia is kind of an activist city.

00:30:40.000 I mean, we did see a lot of activists there, so I could totally see someone who had access being like, I gotta do this anyways, I really want to.

00:30:47.000 But it makes me laugh because this is coming the same day the New York Times is running this article, left-wing misinformation is having a moment.

00:30:53.000 Now, if you read the article at the end, they basically blame Trump.

00:30:55.000 They're like, he's responsible for everything.

00:30:57.000 They blame Trump for everything.

00:30:58.000 They blame Trump for their wanting to destroy the Constitution.

00:31:00.000 But it's interesting because they are acknowledging that there have been several major missteps by the Harris campaign that are misinformation, that they are presenting these false information.

00:31:08.000 Again, you know, what happened over the weekend to Tim.

00:31:11.000 Like, there is a mistrust in the Harris campaign where people don't believe.

00:31:16.000 I mean, the fact that people are immediately like, I don't think the Eagles endorsed her tells you that.

00:31:21.000 Between her and Walls, you know, his stolen valor and his fake IVF, people don't look at the two of them and think this is an honest ticket.

00:31:29.000 They will really tell us the truth.

00:31:31.000 By the way, the other people that could be involved here are Pittsburgh Steelers fans.

00:31:34.000 You're coming up with a whole new conspiracy.

00:31:36.000 Yeah, I mean, there is a huge Steeler versus Eagles element of Pennsylvania, and Pittsburgh is much more of a 50-50, you know, surrounding.

00:31:46.000 I would bet most Steelers fans are going to vote Trump, whereas I would bet maybe most Eagles fans are going to vote Kamala.

00:31:52.000 That's just a rough approximation.

00:31:55.000 And that might not even be accurate, by the way.

00:31:57.000 Now all these NFL teams have to issue a statement being like, we are not involved.

00:32:00.000 The thing too is, you know, how often does a sports team endorse a candidate?

00:32:06.000 Should never do it.

00:32:07.000 I've never heard of it.

00:32:08.000 Why do news organizations do it? 0.89

00:32:10.000 Well, the New York Times does it because they think they're the rulers of the universe.

00:32:13.000 Yeah, that's accurate.

00:32:14.000 And I think other editorial boards do it for the same reason.

00:32:17.000 They feel as though they are trying to be ahead of the news.

00:32:19.000 To Libby's point, I mean, it wasn't, the New York Times didn't just tell Joe Biden that he had to drop out once.

00:32:25.000 No, they did it and then they were like, hey, we really mean it.

00:32:28.000 Yeah.

00:32:28.000 And then we got George Clooney to write it.

00:32:30.000 Yeah.

00:32:30.000 But you're a sports guy.

00:32:31.000 Has this ever happened before where a sports team has been like, put your hat in the ring politically?

00:32:36.000 I like to think that OutKick is starting to kind of bring normalcy back to sports because the craziest thing that's ever happened in sports politically Do you remember the NBA put Black Lives Matter on the basketball court? 0.64

00:32:48.000 Yeah, that was ridiculous.

00:32:49.000 They took the players' names off the back and replaced them with almost exclusively left-wing political slogans. 0.98

00:32:57.000 Like, that freaking happened!

00:32:58.000 And the thing too was, I remember that, because the NBA players were allowed to pick their left-wing political slogan.

00:33:03.000 That's right.

00:33:04.000 But they weren't allowed to pick, like, All Lives Matter or Save Unborn Babies or anything like that.

00:33:11.000 Or Close the Border.

00:33:13.000 They weren't allowed to pick slogans that they might have actually believed in.

00:33:17.000 And anyone who didn't kneel down was shunned and called white supremacist.

00:33:23.000 All of the horrible things.

00:33:24.000 And remember, the craziest one of all was the WNBA players came out in Jacob Blake t-shirts.

00:33:31.000 Oh, that was crazy. 0.86

00:33:32.000 And he tried to murder a black woman and she called the police to protect him. 1.00

00:33:37.000 He was trying to rape her. 1.00

00:33:39.000 Yeah, she called. 0.99

00:33:41.000 They were restrained.

00:33:42.000 She had a restraining order.

00:33:43.000 That's right.

00:33:43.000 And he showed up.

00:33:44.000 He showed up at the house.

00:33:44.000 He had a football player with a name on his helmet.

00:33:46.000 Drew Brees.

00:33:47.000 Geez.

00:33:48.000 Yeah.

00:33:48.000 Drew Brees put, Afkus Drew Brees said, remember Drew Brees got ripped for saying that the reason he stood for the anthem was because his grandfathers fought Nazis.

00:33:57.000 In World War II, and then they started chanting, F. Drew Brees.

00:34:01.000 Wow.

00:34:01.000 And so he showed up with Jacob Blake's name on his helmet.

00:34:06.000 It's just a guy who ended up paralyzed when he was trying to kidnap his children.

00:34:10.000 Because he had a knife.

00:34:12.000 Yeah.

00:34:12.000 And refused to put it down and was trying to show up and attack the mother of his children.

00:34:18.000 Yeah, I think he had assaulted her before. 0.99

00:34:20.000 She got a restraining order.

00:34:20.000 That's right.

00:34:21.000 It was a long time ago.

00:34:22.000 And then he reaches and grabs a knife in his car and the cop shoots him.

00:34:25.000 After trying to tase him and stop him for some time before, he went and withdrew a weapon from his car.

00:34:31.000 Let's jump to this in the Telegraph.

00:34:33.000 Watch.

00:34:34.000 Kamala Harris feigns accent in speech to blue-collar workers.

00:34:38.000 Critics say vice president speaks with a different dialect as she vows to support union workers in battleground state of Michigan.

00:34:44.000 What I love about the telegraph.co.uk, for those that don't know, is it's a rather neutral headline.

00:34:50.000 Feigns accent is in quotes and they say critics say.

00:34:53.000 I can respect that.

00:34:54.000 Here you go.

00:34:55.000 We got sound.

00:34:55.000 You better thank a union member for sick leave.

00:34:58.000 You better thank a union...

00:35:00.000 What?

00:35:00.000 for paid leave? You better thank a union member for vacation time?

00:35:05.000 What is that?

00:35:07.000 Thank unions for sick leave. 0.97

00:35:11.000 Thank unions for paid family leave.

00:35:14.000 Thank unions for your vacation time.

00:35:18.000 What? What is that?

00:35:20.000 Wow.

00:35:21.000 When you look at how the media reports it here, Google just sends you this.

00:35:25.000 Obviously Fox News says Kamala Harris goes viral with new accent at Detroit Rally.

00:35:30.000 But Newsweek says MAGA accuses Harris of changing her accent.

00:35:34.000 Accuses?

00:35:35.000 She's doing it! 1.00

00:35:36.000 And then New Republic, MAGA melts down over Kamala Harris's accent for idiotic reasons. 1.00

00:35:45.000 Dude. 1.00

00:35:46.000 Come on.

00:35:48.000 What was that?

00:35:49.000 What is this?

00:35:49.000 Detroit and Pittsburgh, for those who don't know, five hours apart.

00:35:53.000 Yeah.

00:35:54.000 We're not even talking about days apart.

00:35:56.000 We're talking about literally the same day.

00:35:58.000 Look, I'm from Nashville, Tennessee.

00:36:01.000 And they're saying that's a Southern accent.

00:36:02.000 I mean, it's an awful Southern accent.

00:36:05.000 No one else... If I went to Massachusetts to try to appeal to people and started talking like a Kennedy, everybody would ridicule me.

00:36:14.000 And then I went to, you know, back home to Nashville and said the exact same speech in a totally different accent.

00:36:20.000 Southerners are used to this. 1.00

00:36:22.000 People think that we are stupid. 0.99

00:36:26.000 If we live in the South, and you guys are all nodding, you're like, yeah, we're borderline South right now, and they think that they will have more appeal to us if they pretend to be like us even when we know they aren't. 1.00

00:36:40.000 Hillary Clinton did this with the ridiculous aspects. 1.00

00:36:44.000 Kamala's the fakest person. 0.99

00:36:47.000 I think to ever run for president. She's in Michigan with this clip. I mean, that's why I

00:36:51.000 don't really understand it. Instead of trying to appear like whatever, I think she's faking a

00:36:56.000 Southern accent to seem welcoming, to seem more friendly, the way that people, you know, stereotype

00:37:00.000 Southern ladies by saying bless your heart, but actually that's not a thing. I think she wants to 1.00

00:37:03.000 seem more black. Well, let's apply what you said there, Hannah Clare, that, you know, Kamala Harris 0.50

00:37:09.000 tries to sound a way to, to what, like be a... Alter people's perception of her. 0.87

00:37:16.000 So that they feel like she's like them.

00:37:18.000 I think it's trying to be disarming or charming.

00:37:20.000 Yeah, here's a story from Yale Insights. 0.80

00:37:22.000 White liberals present themselves as less competent in interactions with African Americans.

00:37:27.000 So if the argument is that people like Kamala are going to meet a bunch of southerners and then try and put on a southern drawl, or they're gonna meet people in the city and they're gonna try and speak like a street dialect of sorts. 1.00

00:37:38.000 White liberals, according to Yale, act like they're stupid. 0.99

00:37:41.000 What does that mean about how they perceive black people? 1.00

00:37:44.000 They do think Black people are stupid, and we've seen this for years. 1.00

00:37:47.000 There was a study done that showed that white elitist liberals speak down to their Black counterparts, you know, whether they have the same level of degrees and obviously, you know, similar intelligence and all of that. 1.00

00:38:03.000 White liberals speak down to Black people, and that's very clear.

00:38:06.000 That's been Did you guys see the video?

00:38:07.000 Thatya Ankur Sargon talks about that and that that was really the beginning, that study

00:38:11.000 was really the beginning of her, you know, moving away from the organized left.

00:38:16.000 Did you guys see the video that went viral recently of liberal white people being asked

00:38:21.000 about requiring ID to vote?

00:38:23.000 Well, that's actually a really, the Ami Horowitz one, that's a classic video and it's actually

00:38:27.000 several years old, but it is always worth bringing up. 0.99

00:38:29.000 It keeps cycling back through and all the white people basically think black people are too dumb and not... Right, Kamala Harris even thinks that. 0.99

00:38:38.000 She said that there shouldn't be voter ID because you need to get forms photocopied and you might live in a place where you don't have access to photocopy machines.

00:38:47.000 Which is like, so clearly, she's never been to any real rural places, which, you know, me personally, neither had I, and then I moved to one, and it's like, it's not difficult to get something photocopied, or anything.

00:39:00.000 Like, it's not difficult to anything.

00:39:02.000 I think what it represents is that, again, Kamala's super inauthentic, but also, she's incredibly lacking in confidence. 0.99

00:39:11.000 That's a true thing.

00:39:12.000 And so everything that she does is desperately trying to get people to like her. 0.66

00:39:17.000 I agree.

00:39:18.000 And that is why I think these accents happen.

00:39:20.000 I think she's trying to make people like her and it comes across so fake that I think it actually blows up in her face and makes people less likely to like her.

00:39:29.000 I do too.

00:39:29.000 I mean, if you go back and play that clip where they're contrasting Pittsburgh where she's not using an accent and then Michigan.

00:39:37.000 Again, it's not the South.

00:39:38.000 It's not like she's going to Texas and trying to blend in there.

00:39:41.000 I think she's using the Southern accent to seem like she has more of a personality and to seem like she has some kind of charm, which she doesn't. 0.62

00:39:47.000 We know that she's not successful.

00:39:49.000 She's more animated when she's in Detroit.

00:39:52.000 When you go to the Pittsburgh one, she looks much more scared.

00:39:56.000 You better thank a union member for paid leave.

00:39:59.000 You better thank a union member for vacation time.

00:40:02.000 It's all hands.

00:40:02.000 She's leaning.

00:40:03.000 And some of this is a stereotype of like a southern gospel black woman. 0.99

00:40:08.000 For gestures are much smaller.

00:40:11.000 She looks more nervous.

00:40:13.000 She's not moving and looking around as much.

00:40:15.000 Like, her body language is different when she doesn't have this fake accent. 0.85

00:40:18.000 I think she really is trying to Astrotover personality.

00:40:20.000 Here's the other funny thing, guys.

00:40:22.000 The first clip went viral, and they might have been like, hey, people made fun of how you talked.

00:40:28.000 Maybe dial it back.

00:40:30.000 And then she dialed it back, and it actually made things worse. 0.91

00:40:33.000 Because then you put them side by side, and this is why so many of your advisors are worthless.

00:40:39.000 Because this is, if you allow people to get in your head, Eventually, and I'm sure this is what's happened to Kamala, you don't even know what's real.

00:40:49.000 You can't act normal anymore.

00:40:52.000 Could you imagine if she kept that dialect?

00:40:55.000 If the advisors went to her and said, Kamala, look, you used the dialect.

00:40:59.000 You can't drop it now.

00:41:00.000 You will get accused of being inauthentic from this point forward.

00:41:02.000 That's how you talk.

00:41:03.000 She's on the debate stage with Trump next week.

00:41:07.000 And she's talking like this to Donald Trump!

00:41:09.000 And he's going to be like, Kamala, why are you talking that way?

00:41:12.000 That's weird.

00:41:12.000 What are you doing?

00:41:13.000 If he calls her weird, that would be a very viral moment.

00:41:17.000 But the thing, too, it's like what you were saying about, you know, people telling her to dial it back or whatever.

00:41:21.000 She has so many handlers.

00:41:23.000 There are so many people telling her what to do and how to behave and what to think and what to say.

00:41:28.000 You know, I mean, the only thing she has control over are those sneakers. 0.98

00:41:33.000 And she's never been a genuine person in front of the American people.

00:41:39.000 Maybe she was genuine in 2020 when she touted all those left-wing positions that she's now backtracking on, even though she actually still believes in them.

00:41:47.000 But I don't know.

00:41:47.000 I don't know what they think.

00:41:49.000 I don't know what her handlers think people would be voting for other than her identity and the, you know, Democrat Party machine, you know, voting for the people who will be staffed These unelected bureaucrat types. 1.00

00:42:04.000 You've been writing online for a while, right?

00:42:06.000 Yeah.

00:42:06.000 Do you ever read the comments to what people say about your article?

00:42:10.000 No.

00:42:10.000 Why not?

00:42:11.000 Because I don't really have that kind of time.

00:42:13.000 Because they're not real.

00:42:14.000 I think it's because they're not real.

00:42:15.000 I also think if you allow people you don't know to critique your work and you take it seriously, sometimes it gets in your head.

00:42:27.000 And it will impact the way that you perform.

00:42:29.000 Yeah, I mean, this is why in theater people always say, don't read the reviews after opening night.

00:42:34.000 And you like, when I used to do theater and we'd get reviewed, you know, which didn't always happen, but sometimes happened.

00:42:40.000 I would just be like, and this was back, you know, when there were newspapers, I'd be like, no newspapers backstage.

00:42:45.000 Like, we're not looking at the, we're just going to do the show.

00:42:48.000 You just got to do your show.

00:42:49.000 My top advice for people who do live radio, because I came out of sports talk radio.

00:42:53.000 Don't ever pay attention now to what people say while you're live on the air.

00:42:58.000 Same thing now.

00:42:59.000 I mean, I'm sure there's comments rolling in on YouTube like all the time, but if you worry... This is a great line from... Oh, you don't want to know.

00:43:07.000 I'm sure they'll light me up right now.

00:43:09.000 They're posting eggplant emojis and then your name.

00:43:11.000 That seems positive.

00:43:14.000 Is that good or bad?

00:43:15.000 Is that good or bad?

00:43:16.000 Uh, Charles Barkley had a great line, um, and he said, and I give credit to him, if you worry about the opinions of people who don't like you, then eventually the people who do like you won't like you either.

00:43:28.000 Yeah.

00:43:29.000 And now everybody hates Kamala. 1.00

00:43:30.000 In a similar vein too, there was something interesting that, I think it was Zuby who brought this up, he said a lot of people, I'm paraphrasing because I don't know the exact quote, but a lot of people think that once you get rich, you're untethered, you can say whatever you want, it's actually the opposite.

00:43:42.000 There are people who make $60,000 a year who are scared to lose their jobs, so they fall in line, they refuse to speak out.

00:43:47.000 These big Hollywood celebrities who make millions of dollars are even more scared to speak out because a fall from grace is much more embarrassing than just getting fired.

00:43:56.000 And so the more money they make, the more likely they are to march with the machine.

00:43:59.000 Golden handcuffs.

00:44:01.000 Golden handcuffs are real.

00:44:02.000 That's like what Kanye West was saying at one point.

00:44:04.000 You know, the more fame he got, the more people were trying to tell him what to do all the time.

00:44:09.000 That's the people who piss me off.

00:44:11.000 It's not the people who make $60k a year.

00:44:12.000 I understand.

00:44:13.000 You gotta pay your mortgage, you gotta help your kids get through school, all those things.

00:44:17.000 If you have $20 million or more, you'll have the rest of your life an amazing life. 0.97

00:44:23.000 The people that really piss me off are the ones who are rich and are cowards. 0.76

00:44:27.000 Yeah, I think that makes a lot of sense, too, because it's true. 0.93

00:44:30.000 If you're working some job and there's human resources and they're going to fire you if you say men aren't women, then that's a lot harder.

00:44:38.000 Same thing with COVID shots, right?

00:44:40.000 I understand why people had to go.

00:44:41.000 Look what happened when J.K.

00:44:43.000 Rowling stood up for the gender-critical women and said, you know, men aren't women.

00:44:49.000 Put my money where my mouth is.

00:44:50.000 I'm just going to say it outright.

00:44:51.000 Well, the first time she said it, her publicist was like, no, she's just old.

00:44:55.000 She didn't really say it.

00:44:56.000 She's out of touch.

00:44:57.000 She was wrong.

00:44:58.000 And no, and then, you know, it took, that was in June of whatever year it was.

00:45:02.000 And then it took her until December when she put up the mega viral post and everyone got very mad.

00:45:07.000 But you know what else happened was thousands and thousands of women and parents took the opportunity to speak their mind as well.

00:45:15.000 Yeah.

00:45:15.000 And so when you have someone who is powerful and has a lot of money and has a big platform

00:45:20.000 and stands up and says, you know, like you do this, Tim, and then people have courage

00:45:26.000 to say what they believe to, you know, all it really takes is one person.

00:45:29.000 And J.K.

00:45:30.000 Rowling is a good example because she did then follow up with financial with with she

00:45:34.000 followed up financially.

00:45:35.000 She invested in that women's clinic for women who are victims of rape and assault to go specifically to only be with female staff members. 0.98

00:45:42.000 And then she doubled down and said, no, you can't allow trans-identifying people.

00:45:47.000 They have the National Health Service.

00:45:48.000 There are other research done.

00:45:49.000 This is specifically for women.

00:45:51.000 No fellas.

00:45:52.000 In a rape crisis.

00:45:52.000 It was almost as if, speaking out.

00:45:54.000 I know, it's a crazy concept, but it's almost as if speaking out really changed the way she was spending, because she was, you know, donating all kinds of super woke causes before.

00:46:03.000 But I think some of this is similar to why people like Donald Trump, right?

00:46:07.000 Like, he has the money to which he could say, I'm going to live my life however I want to, and he chooses to do something that's pro-America.

00:46:14.000 With Kamala Harris, I mean, she is, you know, fundamentally wealthier than most Americans, and she is still looking to everyone around her to say, What can I do for validation and to gain power? 0.95

00:46:24.000 There is weakness in that position.

00:46:26.000 I would also point out JK Rowling's really good at what she does and that talent ultimately allows you the freedom to do a lot.

00:46:34.000 They're making new Harry Potter shows all of a sudden at Warner Brothers.

00:46:37.000 They're expanding the theme park there because she's a kick-ass talent. 1.00

00:46:41.000 And I gotta address this meme that's been going around forever And it's this meme that claims, it says that in the Harry Potter universe, there's a spell that can, it's silent, it's secret, you can just kill anybody, and people aren't just killing each other all the time.

00:46:56.000 And for those that aren't familiar with Harry Potter, there is the Killing Curse, which is a component of the story where you can point your wand, say words, and the person dies.

00:47:04.000 Avada Kedavra.

00:47:05.000 Avada Kedavra.

00:47:07.000 And people- That is a super nerd.

00:47:09.000 I knew it too, I'm glad that you- But here's the interesting thing.

00:47:13.000 J.K.

00:47:13.000 Rowling, I actually think, did a really great job in writing this.

00:47:16.000 The one thing I think is interesting is that she's basically written books about children who have the equivalent of guns, or worse, and they're running around schools.

00:47:21.000 But anyway, I digress.

00:47:23.000 I'm seeing a lot of people attack J.K.

00:47:25.000 Rowling now because of the trans issue, acting like all of a sudden everything she did was wrong.

00:47:30.000 And in this meme, they're saying, oh, the reason this makes no sense is because she's a terrible writer. 0.99

00:47:35.000 She's never been good.

00:47:35.000 Nobody likes her.

00:47:36.000 And I'm like, whoa, whoa, whoa, hold on.

00:47:38.000 People have guns all over the place.

00:47:41.000 People in West Virginia are armed to the teeth.

00:47:43.000 Nobody's just walking around shooting each other.

00:47:45.000 Whether you can point a wand or a gun at somebody, people don't just kill each other!

00:47:49.000 But I believe the criticism and the memes largely come out of, she has turned on the woke left, and they have turned on her, and now Harry Potter must be bad.

00:47:58.000 Meanwhile, you also have trans advocates who say things like, you know, J.K.

00:48:04.000 Rowling gave us a place to feel like being freaky was normal, and we could just be ourselves, and now we hate her so much, so we're going to divorce J.K.

00:48:13.000 Rowling from the work she created.

00:48:15.000 And they've been trying to put out versions of her books that don't have her in it, trying to keep her out of properties in that franchise, even though it's 100% her.

00:48:25.000 Didn't they keep her out of the reunion?

00:48:28.000 There was an HBO reunion and they referenced old interviews with her but she was not in that.

00:48:35.000 That made me not watch it.

00:48:36.000 I don't give a rat's whatever.

00:48:39.000 I don't know.

00:48:40.000 I can't not curse properly.

00:48:43.000 I don't care what Daniel Radcliffe has to say or what's-her-name Hermione Granger.

00:48:48.000 Emma Watson who turned out to be such a little brat. 0.95

00:48:52.000 She's terrible.

00:48:54.000 I think that ultimately what's happening, though, is her talent is so substantial that Warner Brothers has now come back, paid her hundreds of millions of dollars more, and they're saying, please give us more of your content.

00:49:06.000 Talent is rare.

00:49:08.000 And so is bravery, sadly.

00:49:10.000 She does unbelievable world creation. 1.00

00:49:12.000 That was the one thing, when I started reading those books with my kid, and I started reading it, I was like, the most brilliant thing in those books is the world.

00:49:20.000 You read the books before your kids read them, or no?

00:49:23.000 Oh yeah, well he was little and we saw them at a book sale for a dollar each at the at the book sale at the library near my grandma's house and so we bought them all and I started reading them with him when he was like five or something and then I just stayed up all night reading.

00:49:35.000 I read them all when I was in law school.

00:49:37.000 Yeah.

00:49:38.000 Because I wanted something.

00:49:41.000 I was in grade school.

00:49:42.000 I wanted something that just took me away from the serious things in my life and so I would read them all.

00:49:48.000 The world creation is unbelievable.

00:49:50.000 It's phenomenal.

00:49:51.000 I love her.

00:49:51.000 I read it after grad school.

00:49:52.000 I read the books as they came out.

00:49:54.000 That's very cool.

00:49:55.000 I remember being a teenager and I think the seventh book came out when I turned 21, or like shortly after I was 21.

00:50:00.000 And I had friends who were like, wow, when the final book is written, we're going to be 20.

00:50:04.000 And I was like, I don't know, 14 or 15 or something.

00:50:07.000 It seemed like a long way away.

00:50:08.000 I didn't have kids yet.

00:50:09.000 I remember going to get the books when they came out, feeling a little weird.

00:50:12.000 You know, like, because it was a kid party and everything else.

00:50:16.000 Now I've got kids.

00:50:17.000 Let's jump back to the news.

00:50:18.000 We've got this story from Interactive Polls.

00:50:21.000 The latest from Nate Silver projecting Donald Trump with a 56.7% chance of winning with swing states swinging to Trump.

00:50:29.000 Pennsylvania, Georgia, Arizona, North Carolina, and Nevada, with only Michigan and Wisconsin going to Kamala Harris. 0.97

00:50:36.000 Polly Market now has Trump at 51%.

00:50:39.000 Could this be why we are seeing the Harris campaign now come out with more egregious and misleading statements?

00:50:47.000 Well, did you see at the rally that she had with Biden in Pennsylvania over the weekend, she said something to the effect of, you know, we know this race is going to be very competitive.

00:50:57.000 We can't pay attention to polls right now.

00:51:00.000 Her campaign at one point was bragging about all these headlines that were saying she was winning in these swing states and she was ahead.

00:51:05.000 And now she's telling her supporters like, oh, well, you know, we can't we don't know what the polls are going to say, like just sort of shifting away from them because it's not it's not the headlines that she wants anymore.

00:51:16.000 I think what's happening here is the voters in Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin are going to decide this race.

00:51:24.000 And a lot of those voters are old white guys.

00:51:27.000 And Joe Biden was able to convince those old white guys that he was unthreatening and that he would be a very normal president.

00:51:36.000 That wasn't true, but he was able to convince them.

00:51:39.000 Kamala's not doing that. 0.97

00:51:41.000 And I think what Nate Silver's prediction reflects is there's starting to be a little bit of panic setting in because those old white guys are looking at Kamala and they're like, this ain't Scranton Joe.

00:51:54.000 This is not 80 year old Joe Biden, who's just the same age as Trump, but maybe a little bit less active on Twitter.

00:52:00.000 Things will get back to normal.

00:52:02.000 This is Kamala Harris, who doesn't have kids of her own, who is 60 years old herself, kind of weird, not very normal, frankly.

00:52:11.000 And I think the data's starting, I think they're starting to panic.

00:52:14.000 I think that's why they put out the clip about you.

00:52:16.000 I think that's why they got 10 or 15 other clips already saved that they're gonna put out to try to build on this threat of Trump as Hitler.

00:52:26.000 You don't think Tim Walz is helping the white men in the Midwest believe in Kamala Harris?

00:52:31.000 You know what the problem is with Tim Walz?

00:52:32.000 I don't think that's working well.

00:52:34.000 I don't think so either.

00:52:35.000 He's so clearly milquetoast.

00:52:36.000 He's such a little puffy man that doesn't seem to have any spine at all.

00:52:43.000 I'm trying to imagine him being in the military at all. 0.59

00:52:46.000 It's just, like, laughable, you know what I mean?

00:52:49.000 Yeah, well, that's why they tried to play up this coach thing.

00:52:51.000 I mean, maybe you could talk about the impact on sports in American psychology, but they had to immediately shift away from the veteran perspective because it was just not working for obvious reasons.

00:53:02.000 And so they're saying Coach Walls, Coach, you know, the only person I know in government who uses that nickname is Tommy Tuberville out of Alabama, who actually is pretty principled and, you know, seems like he projects himself pretty masculine.

00:53:13.000 Tim Walz does not.

00:53:14.000 Tim Walz seems like just the annoying suburban president of the HOA who's policing your lawn and not being nice to anyone in the neighborhood.

00:53:22.000 Well, his brother doesn't like him.

00:53:23.000 I saw that.

00:53:24.000 When he came out and spoke, what you just hit on is so important.

00:53:28.000 He's the governor of Minnesota.

00:53:30.000 Did you see the placards that they were holding said, Coach Walls?

00:53:34.000 They didn't call him Governor Walls.

00:53:34.000 Yeah.

00:53:35.000 Well, they'd never refer to Kamala Harris as vice president.

00:53:39.000 Right.

00:53:39.000 You know, they only talked about her as vice president when they were dragging her.

00:53:42.000 They're trying to run as if she's new.

00:53:43.000 They're like, oh, she's this outsider.

00:53:45.000 She's a California prosecutor. 0.96

00:53:47.000 They don't even talk about her time in the Senate because she didn't get anything done.

00:53:51.000 She was completely ineffectual. 1.00

00:53:52.000 She was ultra liberal.

00:53:54.000 And she was, you know, a meaningless entity there.

00:53:57.000 He was 25 years ago an assistant coach.

00:54:01.000 He wasn't even the head coach.

00:54:02.000 They call him Coach Walsh.

00:54:03.000 He's not even currently coaching kids here.

00:54:05.000 It was a quarter century ago, and they're standing there with placards for Coach Walsh.

00:54:10.000 I think it's a clear attempt to try to appeal to what I call the Big Ten voters.

00:54:15.000 And I don't think that she's going to connect with them at all.

00:54:18.000 And I think that data's starting to reflect that she is not.

00:54:22.000 And the panic is going to get more intense.

00:54:26.000 And if Trump can just stay the course, I think that she's going to self-destruct. 0.88

00:54:30.000 I wonder if, you know, because people talk about the DNC bump didn't emerge or whatever, but also Donald Trump's been doing a lot of these podcasts.

00:54:38.000 I think that's so great.

00:54:39.000 I think that may be boosting him.

00:54:41.000 He's, you know, let me tell you guys a secret.

00:54:43.000 It's not really a secret, but, you know, we work with some advertisers periodically and they, we often hear shock at how well ads perform when they sponsor this show.

00:54:54.000 They say, like, you know, we spend twice as much advertising on other platforms or, you know, television, radio, billboard, but IRL, man, he's like, man, you're guys' fans.

00:55:03.000 Look at what Matt Gaetz says about the show, not even from an advertising perspective, just he meets people all the time who are big fans.

00:55:09.000 They run up to him, yeah.

00:55:10.000 But here's the reality.

00:55:11.000 It's because this is just a show, whereas the other shows are bots and fake numbers puffed up so they can sell ads.

00:55:18.000 We're membership-driven.

00:55:19.000 I'm not relying on selling ad spots, so I don't need to puff the numbers up and say, we get 10 million views.

00:55:25.000 I don't need to do that.

00:55:26.000 Because then if you do, you go to an advertiser and you say, 10 million views is what we're going to get you, and you're going to give us X amount of dollars, and then they sell 10 widgets or whatever.

00:55:36.000 They sponsor TimCast, and we're like, here's our viewership.

00:55:38.000 And they're like, wow, we sold way more than we normally do for this rate.

00:55:42.000 That's what I see with Kamala Harris. 1.00

00:55:44.000 That's what I see with Donald Trump doing these podcasts.

00:55:46.000 Trump starts going on these podcasts.

00:55:48.000 This is where the audience actually, it's where the key demo actually is.

00:55:52.000 And these television programs, these cable TV news shows have passive viewers who are either in hotel lobbies or airports, or they're at home and they're not really paying attention.

00:56:00.000 And you do not connect the same.

00:56:02.000 Trump starts doing these podcasts with all these different people.

00:56:05.000 People are starting to hear him.

00:56:07.000 And now they're going, oh, Yeah, he's going to where the people are, and I think that's so important.

00:56:12.000 It's also reflective of the campaign that he's really been trying to run, you know, repeatedly since 2016.

00:56:17.000 I can't believe that this is the third, maybe basically fourth, Don't Pick Trump campaign that the DNC has launched.

00:56:25.000 If they were smart, and really what I'm saying is, if Kamala Harris had any charisma or personality, she would go on the equivalent She would go on all these shows.

00:56:33.000 She would go and call her daddy, that feminist girl boss whatever podcast. 1.00

00:56:37.000 She would go to these places that are going to lob her 100 softball questions and people are going to say, but she's cool and trendy.

00:56:43.000 She'd go on all the little NPR shows.

00:56:45.000 But she can't do it.

00:56:46.000 She should come on TimCast IRL.

00:56:48.000 Yeah, she should come on TimCast IRL.

00:56:49.000 She should.

00:56:50.000 That would be pretty great.

00:56:51.000 But she won't, and it's because she can't.

00:56:52.000 I mean, unless she can bring her best buddy Tim Walls with her, right?

00:56:55.000 She doesn't do anything.

00:56:56.000 I think it also is reflective of if you spend 45 minutes or an hour with somebody, it's hard to caricature them.

00:57:05.000 Well, I'll tell you, for a show like this, the reason why it's so hard to get Democrats is because we don't let people just say it.

00:57:12.000 Like, let me give you an example, a better way to describe this.

00:57:15.000 When Dana Bash was like, you said you carried a weapon of war in war, he goes, well, my grammar's not so good.

00:57:20.000 My wife says that.

00:57:21.000 But you know, it's not that they're going to go after my kids.

00:57:23.000 And on this show, I'd be like, yeah, dude, but you said you were in war.

00:57:26.000 I mean, own it.

00:57:28.000 Just say you're sorry or whatever.

00:57:29.000 We can move on.

00:57:30.000 But you can't just gloss over it and not answer the question.

00:57:32.000 You come on a show like this, or any other podcast for that matter, they're not going to let you get away with that.

00:57:37.000 I think that's right.

00:57:37.000 That was a great trend.

00:57:38.000 I thought that Vivek Ramaswamy started when he was running during the primaries and stuff.

00:57:45.000 He would go on any show that asked him on.

00:57:48.000 Yeah, I think J.D.' 's doing that.

00:57:49.000 I thought that was so great.

00:57:50.000 Yeah, J.D.' 's doing that.

00:57:51.000 Oh, we gotta get J.D.

00:57:52.000 on the show!

00:57:52.000 You see Trump.

00:57:53.000 That's awesome.

00:57:54.000 But you see Trump going on so many podcasts.

00:57:57.000 And, you know, he's going out to where the voters are.

00:58:01.000 I saw the Fox News stat.

00:58:03.000 Trump and J.D.

00:58:04.000 did 34 national shows between the two of them in August.

00:58:09.000 I think Harris has done fewer interviews than Joe Biden has, and he is notoriously withdrawn from the media.

00:58:19.000 I mean, are you telling me that the guy who we think has dementia is better able to talk to the press than you are and you want to be the president?

00:58:27.000 You know this Vance Weird campaign they're doing?

00:58:31.000 Yeah.

00:58:32.000 I actually think it works to a certain degree because J.D.

00:58:35.000 Vance is so normal.

00:58:36.000 And I do mean that.

00:58:38.000 If he was wearing a cowboy hat and would go on shows and just bombastically yell and bang the table and bang a cowbell whenever he was making a point, you could call him all sorts of things and then he'd yell over you.

00:58:52.000 Donald Trump talks over people famously, excuse me, excuse me, and then he jumps in.

00:58:57.000 He doesn't let you get away with it.

00:58:58.000 J.D.

00:58:59.000 Vance is too mild-mannered and normal. 0.97

00:59:01.000 So when they make these things about him, he's just like, that's ridiculous. 0.91

00:59:05.000 And it's not a strong enough reaction. 0.97

00:59:07.000 I also think they are devious and diabolical.

00:59:09.000 And most people don't know J.D.

00:59:11.000 Vance.

00:59:12.000 So you can characterize him however you would like.

00:59:12.000 Exactly.

00:59:14.000 I mean, I'll give you an example.

00:59:15.000 I was looking at favorables today.

00:59:18.000 Tim Walz has, like, 20 points higher favorability right now than J.D.

00:59:23.000 Vance.

00:59:24.000 Tim Walz is weird.

00:59:26.000 I mean, you want to talk about weird?

00:59:27.000 I mean, the guy lied about his DUI.

00:59:30.000 The guy's claiming to be a coach 25 years after he did it.

00:59:33.000 Assistant coach.

00:59:34.000 I've been praying to be, yes, but still bragging about it.

00:59:38.000 You were saying before he was never actually a coach.

00:59:39.000 Never actually a head coach.

00:59:40.000 Yeah.

00:59:41.000 I mean, for most people who are in sports, the guy who is the assistant coach doesn't brag about winning the state championship, right?

00:59:48.000 I mean, Bill Belichick won six Super Bowls.

00:59:52.000 Nobody knows all the assistants and how many Super Bowls they won.

00:59:55.000 Like, you are the head coach.

00:59:56.000 You get credit for the wins or the losses.

00:59:59.000 The assistant coaches don't.

01:00:01.000 But they have been so good about characterizing Tim Walz as the normal football guy because they have so many more media assets.

01:00:10.000 Walz hasn't even done interviews. 0.99

01:00:12.000 But the other thing, too, is they really play up Walz being the stupid white guy, which I don't think really plays that well with voters who are, you know, so many young white men are flocking to Trump. 1.00

01:00:26.000 They don't want to be the stupid white guy. 1.00

01:00:27.000 They don't eat You know, tuna fish and mayonnaise tacos. 1.00

01:00:31.000 They don't do any of this stuff.

01:00:32.000 Who does that?

01:00:33.000 Yeah, I've never heard of anybody doing that.

01:00:34.000 Literally, no one does that.

01:00:35.000 You remember that little scripted episode they did?

01:00:37.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.

01:00:38.000 I mean, and also like- What is it?

01:00:38.000 You know?

01:00:40.000 Mayonnaise and tuna fish?

01:00:41.000 Yeah, like- What?

01:00:43.000 White man tacos.

01:00:44.000 That's called a wrap.

01:00:45.000 Yeah.

01:00:45.000 You take a tortilla and you put tuna on it.

01:00:47.000 You call it a tuna wrap.

01:00:48.000 Right.

01:00:49.000 It's like a little snack, maybe.

01:00:50.000 I don't know.

01:00:51.000 My kiddies do that. 1.00

01:00:52.000 But they also, to your point... But Tim Walz, several years ago, won a recipe contest with a spicy dish!

01:01:00.000 It was chock full of cayenne pepper! 1.00

01:01:02.000 So on top of everything else, they are clearly trying to play him up as the stupid white guy. 1.00

01:01:07.000 And that's probably also a lie. 1.00

01:01:10.000 He like, you know, eats cayenne pepper.

01:01:12.000 He's a master chef.

01:01:14.000 I think it had tater tots in it or whatever.

01:01:16.000 It was a taco hot dish.

01:01:18.000 With various spices, garlic, onion, peppers, cayenne, whatever. 0.97

01:01:22.000 But rather than being like, I am a proud Midwesterner and we love casseroles, he instead was like, I am your dumb white sidekick, which is essentially Obama-Biden 2.0. 0.91

01:01:32.000 That he was this cool guy from the city and, you know, he's going to be our first, you know, black president. 0.92

01:01:37.000 Except at least Biden had a career going back to the 70s.

01:01:39.000 Yeah, except in this case, she has no charm and at least Obama had some charisma and he is untrustworthy and people, even Democrats, know that. 1.00

01:01:48.000 And we're also all really tired of the stupid white guy trope. 1.00

01:01:52.000 The camo hat is a perfect example of that. 1.00

01:01:55.000 Yeah, that's for sure.

01:01:56.000 And Ella Emhoff wearing it?

01:01:58.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:02:00.000 It's when you go to Brooklyn and somebody in Brooklyn is like, I love Bud Light.

01:02:07.000 I drink Bud Light all the time.

01:02:08.000 They're ironically drinking a Bud Light.

01:02:11.000 Well, they ironically drink the PBR as well.

01:02:14.000 I'm going to wear camo and hide out on the subway.

01:02:16.000 The cow hat thing is stolen from Chapel Rowan, the pop singer.

01:02:20.000 Like, she tweeted, like, is this a joke?

01:02:21.000 Because that's her merch. 0.99

01:02:23.000 That's how uncreative and brainless this campaign is.

01:02:25.000 They're relying on pop culture figures to make these two irrelevant, not personable people seem like they are worth your time and energy.

01:02:34.000 And her wearing the hat actually is not endearing to Southerners, but to hipster Brooklynites. 0.99

01:02:40.000 Correct.

01:02:40.000 That is where they will.

01:02:41.000 So they don't need to endear themselves to her?

01:02:42.000 Southerners are used to seeing people in camo, so we don't think, oh my goodness, I like this person because they're wearing camo.

01:02:50.000 Of course not.

01:02:50.000 You either like them or not like them.

01:02:51.000 The trope would be, a guy in a flannel shirt with rolled up sleeves and a mullet, and like a trucker hat, and you'd be like, where do you think that person lives?

01:02:59.000 And everyone's gonna be like, the South. 0.69

01:03:01.000 No, that's Brooklyn.

01:03:02.000 In the South, they're probably wearing like, Jeans and a t-shirt.

01:03:05.000 I'll come back to this.

01:03:06.000 Bushwick.

01:03:07.000 It only goes one way.

01:03:10.000 No one in the South tries to pretend they're from New York.

01:03:13.000 Like, no politician, for instance, if you, I don't know who's a successful Southern politician right now, like, Ted Cruz doesn't go to New York City and try to pretend that he's from New York City because it would look ridiculous.

01:03:13.000 Right?

01:03:26.000 If anything, he doesn't wear a bolo tie.

01:03:27.000 Yet people from New York try to pretend that they're from Texas all the time and it's considered normal.

01:03:32.000 I gotta say, like, as someone who lived in New York for like 20-something years, I hate that.

01:03:37.000 Yeah, like whenever I would see New Yorkers walking around in cowboy boots, I'd just be like, just put on some proper shoes. 1.00

01:03:42.000 You look ridiculous. 0.97

01:03:44.000 You know, and now there's this whole trend in New York of like cowboy country stuff. 1.00

01:03:47.000 Oh, yeah, the Beyonce thing. 0.56

01:03:50.000 They tried to claim that Beyonce, the New York Times, I've never seen the headline.

01:03:54.000 And I couldn't believe I meant to take a picture of it's like, Beyonce makes cowboys popular.

01:03:58.000 And I'm like, cowboys have been pretty popular for a long time.

01:04:01.000 Beyonce wearing a cowboy hat.

01:04:02.000 He was already trendy and that's why she wrote a western album.

01:04:06.000 Her company looked around and was like, we gotta keep you relevant.

01:04:09.000 Write a western country album.

01:04:11.000 We saw this with OutKick because OutKick came out of the SEC and the Big Ten, the middle part of the country.

01:04:16.000 And then New York and LA became aware that we existed and it got popular there too.

01:04:21.000 But it's kind of like the television show Yellowstone.

01:04:23.000 Yellowstone took off in the middle part of the country, and then everybody suddenly in New York and L.A.

01:04:29.000 Everybody in New York and L.A.

01:04:31.000 suddenly realized it was popular, but I think part of that is the insecurity with New York and L.A.

01:04:39.000 not realizing that they're not the center of everything that's ever occurred, and not wanting to acknowledge that anything in the middle part of the country could actually be great.

01:04:47.000 I live in Nashville.

01:04:48.000 I don't want to live in New York or L.A.

01:04:51.000 And it is like that old New Yorker cover.

01:04:53.000 You remember that?

01:04:54.000 And it's like the New Yorker's view of the world.

01:04:57.000 Yes.

01:04:57.000 Like New York, Queens, New Jersey.

01:05:00.000 That perfect, perfect example of that.

01:05:02.000 Do you guys remember when the power went out in New York?

01:05:05.000 Which time?

01:05:05.000 Like 20 years ago?

01:05:06.000 You mean in 2002?

01:05:07.000 And the whole media was like, oh my goodness, the power's out.

01:05:11.000 I have, I remember.

01:05:11.000 I was there.

01:05:13.000 Of course you do because you're in New York at that time.

01:05:16.000 But the rest of us were sitting around in the country and it was, it was as if New York had, had fallen off the planet.

01:05:23.000 There's that.

01:05:23.000 Yes.

01:05:25.000 1976, New York view, and it's 10th Avenue, 9th Avenue, Hudson River, and then just barren desert, and then Pacific Ocean.

01:05:32.000 Yeah, that seems exactly right.

01:05:33.000 Jersey and beyond doesn't exist.

01:05:34.000 But I mean, New Yorkers are proud of this.

01:05:36.000 They're proud of who they are, and they're proud of their city, and like, God bless them.

01:05:40.000 But yeah, the 14th Street substation blew up.

01:05:42.000 I was a little excited.

01:05:43.000 Oh, I remember.

01:05:44.000 I think Detroit also got a little bit.

01:05:46.000 Detroit power went out.

01:05:47.000 But yeah, the world had come to a close.

01:05:51.000 Aliens had landed.

01:05:52.000 That was a great weekend, I gotta say.

01:05:54.000 I think there was a time in American media, though, where New York really did seem like this wonderful place.

01:05:54.000 Great weekend.

01:05:58.000 Like, so many movies are set in New York, people will flock there at Christmas for things, but that's, like, someplace Americans like to visit.

01:06:05.000 They don't want to be there.

01:06:06.000 And I think that's reflective of the politicians, right?

01:06:08.000 They all posture as if they have rural, small-town ties, because ultimately that's where most Americans live and want to stay.

01:06:14.000 This idea that New York would be the Mecca for all things is sort of delusional.

01:06:19.000 Yeah.

01:06:19.000 Well, it'll come back.

01:06:21.000 Okay, New Yorker.

01:06:22.000 Spoken like a New Yorker.

01:06:23.000 I had this one family friend, she's a generational, like, you know, grandparents, great-grandparents, everyone was in New York.

01:06:28.000 And she looked at me one time and she was like, well, New York is the center of the universe.

01:06:31.000 And she's not wrong. 0.60

01:06:33.000 Let's jump to the story from the New York Post.

01:06:35.000 Biden whines, secret service doesn't let me engage with crowds.

01:06:40.000 I saw this and I just, it's funny because I can't remember who tweeted it, but they were like, isn't it funny that as soon as Joe Biden drops out of the 2024 race, he just stopped pretending to be president?

01:06:50.000 Yeah, he's on vacation for like weeks and weeks.

01:06:53.000 And he's not doing anything.

01:06:54.000 No, and we even had Kamala Harris going out there being like, me and Joe working around the clock and trying to get these hostages freed. 1.00

01:07:02.000 Meanwhile, the hostages are getting murdered.

01:07:04.000 Joe Biden's on a beach and she's, you know, like, They had him speak before her at this rally in Pennsylvania.

01:07:11.000 That's how irrelevant he is now.

01:07:13.000 He is the sitting president and they don't give him any sort of dignity.

01:07:16.000 They're just like, please, please stay over there.

01:07:19.000 Occasionally come out with some sort of stern finger shaking at Netanyahu and then go back, leave, go away.

01:07:25.000 How about his approval ratings have gone up and he hasn't worked for a month?

01:07:30.000 I mean, do you see that?

01:07:30.000 His approval ratings have gone up like nine points.

01:07:33.000 These are like sympathy approval ratings.

01:07:35.000 I just, I can't believe it.

01:07:36.000 They're not real approval ratings.

01:07:38.000 No, I think that makes sense.

01:07:40.000 His approval rating goes up.

01:07:42.000 It has.

01:07:43.000 It's gone up because they're like, thank heavens Joe Biden is not doing his presidential run again.

01:07:49.000 He's not working anymore.

01:07:51.000 There haven't been the, I mean, Every time he spoke, even when he spoke at this most recent rally, he got all stumbly and everything else.

01:07:59.000 When he doesn't speak, people forget that he's incompetent at being able to be president and they like him more.

01:08:05.000 Infirm.

01:08:07.000 Well, he's just a kindly old man.

01:08:07.000 Yes.

01:08:09.000 That's why he couldn't be held accountable for absconding with classified documents that he wasn't entitled to at the end of his vice presidential term.

01:08:15.000 I mean, to have an actual independent counsel say the president of the United States' brain doesn't work well enough for him to be charged with a crime.

01:08:23.000 What do you think Joe Biden's legacy is going to be?

01:08:24.000 Because that's what I feel like his team is now pivoting into.

01:08:26.000 That's all they care about.

01:08:27.000 Records Act and he gets to decide what's classified and what's not at the end of his term and what

01:08:30.000 belongs to him and what doesn't. The whole time. What do you think Joe Biden's legacy is going to

01:08:34.000 be? Because that's what I feel like his team is now pivoting into. That's all they care about.

01:08:38.000 They're just trying to wrap it up so that at the end people are like, it wasn't that bad.

01:08:42.000 I think it's going to be that he was an accidental president like Jimmy Carter was,

01:08:47.000 and COVID, this is my theory, COVID got him into office like Watergate got Jimmy Carter into office.

01:08:54.000 And people will look back at it and say it because if COVID doesn't happen, I think Trump would have smoked him in 2020.

01:08:54.000 Interesting.

01:09:01.000 But let's just hope that's true and the legacy of Biden is more like Carter and not Buchanan.

01:09:07.000 Well, yeah, good lord.

01:09:10.000 I hope that's a good historical reference for a Civil War nerd like me, but I think, given where we are, the state, you know, breaking up West Virginia and Virginia and everything else, but I think you look at, I think for Biden, Kamala's win would change his legacy tremendously.

01:09:30.000 Because then it's he's, oh, he gave up power and passed to the next generation.

01:09:35.000 The strong black woman. 0.88

01:09:37.000 If she loses to Trump, then it's the Jimmy Carter, which is what I think is going to happen.

01:09:41.000 But if he wins, he's like the bridge to the next generation.

01:09:45.000 They're going to make him a civil rights icon.

01:09:46.000 And they're going to say he was the old white male who gave up power for a younger woman of color signifying, you know, all of these things.

01:09:55.000 I asked you guys, I'm curious, what happens if Kamala loses?

01:10:00.000 Trump's going to be 81.

01:10:01.000 Trump is elderly, right?

01:10:03.000 So, I mean, Trump's legacy is going to be substantial no matter what.

01:10:07.000 Where does Kamala go if she loses this race? 1.00

01:10:10.000 Oh, she could get, you know, university president position, something like that. 0.94

01:10:14.000 I mean, that's a tremendous drop-off, right?

01:10:16.000 Because I don't know that she has a skill set that would suggest that she could do anything 0.92

01:10:21.000 very well.

01:10:22.000 Well that's why she needs to do a figurehead position. 1.00

01:10:23.000 And there's a lot of these figurehead university presidents we see they're just swapping a

01:10:26.000 minute out at like Columbia and Harvard.

01:10:29.000 Like it clearly just doesn't matter.

01:10:30.000 And if she were more charismatic she'd be like, she would pivot to sort of what Hillary Clinton was doing 1.00

01:10:34.000 for a while there, you know, the, I was wronged and I deserve something and it was taken from

01:10:39.000 me, so I must rally and charge huge amounts of money for speaking fees, right? She would just 1.00

01:10:45.000 kind of make money off of being this woman who Trump stole her rightful place in the White House. 1.00

01:10:50.000 But she's not, she's not charming She's not a good speaker. 1.00

01:10:53.000 And so in some ways we have to, not me specifically, but someone has to shuffle her off into a position where we can like bring her out to wave at political rallies but not to give us any advice. 0.86

01:11:02.000 You know what she really could do though?

01:11:04.000 She could join up with Ella Emhoff and start attending those knitting clubs at bars on

01:11:09.000 the Lower East Side in the back garden.

01:11:11.000 And then she could do like little knit Kamala Harris dolls and then those dolls could be 1.00

01:11:16.000 featured in her niece's children's books. 1.00

01:11:18.000 And they could just do like a whole new family undertaking of little stupid things. 0.99

01:11:24.000 I do think her husband might get an intern pregnant if she were to win. 1.00

01:11:28.000 So that's something we could think about for a new scandal.

01:11:31.000 New scandal, right?

01:11:32.000 I said if I got to ask Kamala any questions, which I never will, I would love to say, you don't think Donald Trump has the character to be president.

01:11:41.000 You've said that quite a lot.

01:11:43.000 Yet, you waited until you were 49 to get married and married a man who got his nanny pregnant to break up his first marriage. 0.65

01:11:49.000 Why are you the judge of character?

01:11:51.000 And she never had any kids and I wonder about that actually because she clearly had plenty of relationships.

01:11:55.000 Why was this intent? Did she?

01:11:59.000 I think that goes to Kamala's insecurity. 0.77

01:12:03.000 You think so?

01:12:05.000 My theory, if I wanted to psychoanalyze her.

01:12:08.000 She didn't get married until she was 49.

01:12:10.000 She's an attractive woman. 1.00

01:12:12.000 She was a lawyer. 0.83

01:12:12.000 She passed the bar. 0.83

01:12:14.000 She lived in California and was, in theory, a catch. 1.00

01:12:19.000 Yet at 29 years old, she was sleeping with a married 60-year-old man.

01:12:25.000 That's not a normal 29-year-old thing to do.

01:12:28.000 That is an insecure 29-year-old thing to do.

01:12:31.000 Someone who doesn't have a father in her life.

01:12:33.000 Something's going on there.

01:12:35.000 She has no kids of her own.

01:12:36.000 There's Ella Emhoff and Ella Emhoff's brother who we don't see that much.

01:12:40.000 We don't even know what his name is.

01:12:41.000 Ella Emhoff has an Instagram and she does weird stuff on it. 0.94

01:12:44.000 Well, and after when Kamala became the VP, she got signed to some modeling agency.

01:12:49.000 Ella Hemhoff is like the poster child for like, do not send your kids to Brooklyn. 0.98

01:12:53.000 Look at what happens to them.

01:12:54.000 She got signed like that day.

01:12:56.000 The head of that agency, I forget who it was, showed up at the inauguration and then Ella Hemhoff got signed. 0.95

01:13:02.000 But I think it is why Kamala is so insecure. 0.98

01:13:07.000 Because I think if she were married for a long time and she had kids, That provides you a semblance of normalcy outside of an abnormal arena and so I think it keeps you from getting so wrapped up in your head and concerned about what other people think about you because you actually have someone else who relies on you.

01:13:28.000 Kamala's never had anyone in her entire life that has needed her for anything.

01:13:34.000 Should we make it a new constitutional amendment you can't run for office unless you have children?

01:13:39.000 That would have kept James Buchanan out of it.

01:13:41.000 My first one would be you have to be under the age of 65. 0.94

01:13:46.000 Because I do think that age factors, and if you can't fly in an airplane, 70 I'd be okay with.

01:13:51.000 If you can't fly in an airplane, I don't think you should be able to be President of the United States.

01:13:54.000 But I do think that having kids is like being religious.

01:13:58.000 It tells us something.

01:14:00.000 That there is something that matters more to you than power.

01:14:04.000 You can't be 71 at the time of inauguration would be the rule I think would be good.

01:14:10.000 If we gave 35 to 70, that's a 35 year window.

01:14:13.000 But I mean, I think religion and kids...

01:14:17.000 One or the other, ideally both in many ways, shows that you matter, that something other than you matters.

01:14:24.000 You have supreme power.

01:14:25.000 What do you mean religion?

01:14:26.000 Like in what way?

01:14:27.000 I mean that there is something larger.

01:14:30.000 Like believing in God?

01:14:30.000 Yeah, believing in God.

01:14:31.000 Of any type.

01:14:33.000 I'm not saying like you have to be a particular religion, but just believing that there are moral consequences beyond your own life.

01:14:40.000 And kids are that, right?

01:14:42.000 I care more about my kids than anything.

01:14:44.000 I think if you're pursuing the biggest power of all time, that has a balancing act.

01:14:50.000 I don't agree with that for a moral and philosophical reason.

01:14:55.000 People believe a bunch of things and I, you know, I don't know.

01:14:58.000 I just, I wouldn't want to, I don't agree with that.

01:15:00.000 I just, whatever.

01:15:01.000 But there's a better reason other than my personal feelings, which are irrelevant, and it's that they just lie.

01:15:08.000 Before someone who seems to have sacrificed everything for the pursuit of power and her professional career, Kamala does seem like a directionless person. 0.91

01:15:14.000 You started this by asking, where does she go from here?

01:15:16.000 You have to have a tie to the future.

01:15:17.000 But for someone who seems to have sacrificed everything for the pursuit of power and her

01:15:22.000 professional career, Kamala does seem like a directionless person. 1.00

01:15:25.000 You started this by asking where does she go from here?

01:15:28.000 If she loses, what's next for her?

01:15:30.000 And that's sort of fascinating because I think we all kind of agree or at least I definitely feel like she is almost surprised she's in the position she's in at all.

01:15:38.000 I mean, I think the fact that she was in a position to run for president was sort of surprising to her.

01:15:43.000 She didn't really run a cohesive, intense campaign in 2020.

01:15:47.000 It's sort of, you know, she would put out these really liberal policies, but she didn't

01:15:51.000 really gain the momentum as someone who's devoted their whole lives to rising to the

01:15:55.000 top political office in America.

01:15:57.000 And so to me, in addition to the, you know, family aspects, like, why didn't you prioritize

01:16:03.000 having children?

01:16:04.000 What happened there where marriage was sort of a last minute priority for you?

01:16:10.000 You know, what is she about?

01:16:12.000 What are her directions?

01:16:13.000 Because she's not even achieving a goal that seems to have been what her life would have been about.

01:16:17.000 Did she even want to be here?

01:16:19.000 What was Kamala Harris's purpose for all the things that she did up until now? 0.98

01:16:22.000 Because you can't say anything about that.

01:16:24.000 Let me give you an example of that, I think.

01:16:26.000 Kamala seems the most authentic version of herself when she talks about cooking.

01:16:32.000 There are all different sorts of passions.

01:16:35.000 I love history.

01:16:37.000 I love college football.

01:16:38.000 I love the NFL.

01:16:40.000 If you find someone's passion, we all seem to like Harry Potter.

01:16:45.000 Who doesn't?

01:16:46.000 You're not faking the way you react to something that you're passionate about.

01:16:51.000 And so when I've seen, to the extent that there is an authentic version of Kamala Harris, it's like, oh, I kind of buy in that she cares about spices, or that she cares about what her Thanksgiving dinner is going to be, or having people over and cooking, or breaking a freaking egg with one hand, which she seems really proud of.

01:17:09.000 None of that for politics seems like actually it connects with her, which goes to the question of, did she just kind of end up doing what she did and there wasn't some game plan to it?

01:17:23.000 It's just she took the next step every time.

01:17:25.000 She's the Mr. Magoo of politics.

01:17:27.000 She's bumbling around, she's politically blind, and she walks on the steel beam and then gets lifted up to the 10th floor and is walking in circles, has no idea what's going on, doesn't want to be there. 0.95

01:17:41.000 I mean, she's sleeping with the 60-year-old married guy. 0.99

01:17:44.000 He gets her, and evidently nobody can talk about this, he gets her two jobs that pay her $400,000. 0.93

01:17:50.000 That's a ton of money, right?

01:17:52.000 And that leads to this job, and then she's like, oh, I'm okay at this as a DA or whatever.

01:18:00.000 I'll continue to take the next step.

01:18:05.000 The reason why I think Kamala losing is so fascinating is because I don't know what she cares about enough to want to do if she didn't have the job. 0.99

01:18:13.000 Celebrity cooking show.

01:18:15.000 I mean, maybe so.

01:18:16.000 And by the way, what if she was incredibly likable on that?

01:18:18.000 You might watch it and be like, hey, she seems like a really good person on this.

01:18:22.000 I gotta be honest.

01:18:23.000 If Kamala was sitting there and she was like, well, the first thing you gotta do is you gotta take the red peppers. 1.00

01:18:29.000 I'd be okay with her laughing randomly for no reason.

01:18:32.000 I'd be like, she's having a good time cutting those peppers. 0.95

01:18:34.000 And then you watch her put the olive oil on it.

01:18:36.000 Yeah, maybe instead of doing like a feminist girl boss podcast, she should go on like Rachel Ray's cooking show. 1.00

01:18:41.000 She needs to do a show with Martha Stewart and whip something up. 1.00

01:18:43.000 And other bubbly wine moms. 1.00

01:18:45.000 Yeah, this will be her next act. 0.99

01:18:48.000 If she loses, you know, God willing, this will be her next act.

01:18:51.000 It will be Kamala's cooking show.

01:18:53.000 It will be on Netflix.

01:18:54.000 Kamala's Kitchen Cooking.

01:18:56.000 I love it.

01:18:56.000 You have a kitchen in here.

01:19:00.000 Every episode she would do a cuisine of a different nation and take on that accent.

01:19:03.000 By the way, this is going to be the next clip that they grab.

01:19:07.000 It's going to be Clay Travis tells Kamala Harris to go back to the kitchen. 1.00

01:19:10.000 I think that's an acceptable thing to say.

01:19:10.000 I'll do it.

01:19:13.000 But I actually think she would really enjoy that job and be honest when she's talking about what her favorite recipe is.

01:19:21.000 I don't think I've, I don't think she has a foundational core.

01:19:25.000 I think that's the biggest challenge.

01:19:26.000 What does she really desperately care about?

01:19:29.000 Do you think at night she goes to Doug and she's like, I just want to quit, but I know I can't.

01:19:32.000 He's like, you got to keep going.

01:19:34.000 We could be at the White House.

01:19:35.000 Like maybe she doesn't want to do this.

01:19:38.000 I, I think on some level, like Al Gore, I don't think ever really liked being a politician, but he just wanted to make his dad happy.

01:19:48.000 Oh, is that right?

01:19:49.000 And so he kept doing it.

01:19:50.000 Yeah.

01:19:50.000 That was a dad thing?

01:19:51.000 I think it came from his dad, who was a senator, and it's just kind of the direction that he went.

01:19:57.000 And then when he lost, he seemed so much happier not being involved in politics at all. 1.00

01:20:03.000 And he got to make his stupid movies about lies about climate change. 1.00

01:20:06.000 But that was his true passion. 1.00

01:20:09.000 But think about that.

01:20:10.000 That was his passion.

01:20:12.000 He's a Tennessee senator.

01:20:13.000 It's not like people in my state are sitting around like, hey, no, we really care about the polar ice caps melting.

01:20:18.000 But that desperately mattered to him.

01:20:20.000 And what would Kamala do?

01:20:23.000 I think cooking might be the answer.

01:20:25.000 I think it's great.

01:20:25.000 Let's jump to this story from NBC News.

01:20:27.000 This is crazy.

01:20:28.000 Two U.S.

01:20:29.000 Marines assaulted in Turkey by nationalist mob chanting, Yankee, go home.

01:20:34.000 A video of the incident showed someone placing a bag over the head of the Marine.

01:20:37.000 So this happened in, what city was this?

01:20:40.000 It was in Turkey and it was Izmir.

01:20:44.000 So these were, what were these?

01:20:46.000 Were these Marines?

01:20:47.000 Because I've heard it reported both that they were just Navy, but others saying that they were Marines.

01:20:51.000 I've always seen Marines.

01:20:52.000 I've seen Marines.

01:20:53.000 I thought it was Marines as well.

01:20:54.000 The group restrained one Marine before one of them places a bag over it.

01:20:57.000 Said moments later, another man can be seen charging the group.

01:21:01.000 None of the service members are in uniform.

01:21:02.000 I'll pull that video up in a second, but I want to jump to this too.

01:21:04.000 I want this to be a part of it.

01:21:05.000 Turkey is seeking to join BRICS.

01:21:08.000 This is massive on the global stage.

01:21:10.000 Turkey joins BRICS, putting Western control of the Bosphorus at risk.

01:21:14.000 Not that we're very happy with how Turkey operates as it is, but the Bosphorus connects the Black Sea to the Mediterranean.

01:21:20.000 So this is shifting global power from NATO in the West into BRICS, which means big bad things for the United States.

01:21:28.000 You combine these kinds of stories with Turkish nationalists attacking U.S.

01:21:32.000 personnel.

01:21:33.000 We have real problems.

01:21:34.000 It's almost as though the best thing for the United States would be to close the border, become energy independent, and bring American manufacturing back.

01:21:34.000 Oh, yeah.

01:21:42.000 Okay, Donald Trump.

01:21:44.000 Perhaps.

01:21:46.000 It is funny how we have solutions to these problems and we just apparently cannot implement them without, I don't know, being racist?

01:21:52.000 Questioner?

01:21:53.000 I think this goes to, we have an inability to acknowledge good and evil exist in the country.

01:21:59.000 We have an inability to acknowledge good and evil because we abandoned religion. 0.90

01:22:05.000 We replaced God with the false idol of self and replaced the soul with gender, and now we have completely and totally lost our way. 0.97

01:22:11.000 You know, gender and identity.

01:22:13.000 We do have the video, we can pull this up.

01:22:19.000 They just are screaming and they... Look at this.

01:22:25.000 Wow.

01:22:27.000 And they start punching him.

01:22:28.000 So apparently a bunch of these guys got arrested, but uh...

01:22:37.000 BRICS wants their own currency.

01:22:38.000 Saudi Arabia is off the petrodollar.

01:22:40.000 Oil is being traded internationally in yuan and rubles.

01:22:43.000 The American empire is done.

01:22:45.000 And we're cutting back on Gulf of Mexico drilling for some reason because the Biden and Harris administration doesn't want us to do that anymore.

01:22:52.000 So question, because we've talked about this a couple years ago, is this the intentional decline of the United States in order to avoid Thucydides' trap?

01:23:03.000 That was sort of the Obama thing, right?

01:23:05.000 That was sort of the rumor of Obama, that he thought that his job was to manage the decline of the United States.

01:23:11.000 The fear being that with China rising on the global scale, whenever there's a rising economic power that is on the verge of supplanting the dominant power, there is a very high tendency for large-scale war to break out.

01:23:26.000 The liberal economic order has believed since the 50s, this is Council on Foreign Relations people, high-level US and European politicians believe, that another world war would end humanity.

01:23:36.000 So is this them saying, okay, transfer our assets to China, China's taking over and the United States and move on?

01:23:42.000 I actually think China's decline is more dangerous than America's decline. 0.71

01:23:47.000 And this is where I come in with Where I think Elon Musk is correct.

01:23:52.000 You were mentioning like, you know, the climate change and all those things.

01:23:56.000 And you asked about kids and presidents and everything else, which I think is an interesting question.

01:24:01.000 China's population's peaked.

01:24:03.000 And if you look at the projections because of the one-child policy, in the next 50 or 60 years, China's population could be cut in half.

01:24:13.000 They got rid of that, though.

01:24:14.000 Now they have, but the problem is, it's so locked in, and they had so many more male children than female children, and all those things. 0.87

01:24:21.000 Yeah, they killed their babies.

01:24:24.000 One of the aspects of history, if you study it, is wars often happen not when countries are at their peak power, but when the peak power has passed and you can see a rapid decline coming.

01:24:37.000 Which is why I worry that China, in a decline, begins to act more aggressively than China on the ascent.

01:24:44.000 Because if China thought, hey, in 40 years we're going to be the superior economy to the United States, I think they could afford to wait.

01:24:52.000 My concern is in 40 years, China is going to be severely diminished.

01:24:57.000 And I think my concern on the United States side there is, in 1980, I was mentioning Jimmy Carter, he got defeated to a large, for many reasons, but one was because Iran had taken the hostages.

01:25:12.000 And he was so weak that he couldn't get them back.

01:25:16.000 Hirsch Goldberg, Poland's mother, spoke at the DNC and a few weeks later Hamas put a bullet in the back of that kid's head.

01:25:24.000 They trotted her out on stage to beg for her son's life. 0.90

01:25:27.000 Wow.

01:25:28.000 And then she just spoke at her son's funeral.

01:25:30.000 Yeah.

01:25:30.000 And Hamas disrespected American power to such an extent and did not fear our retaliation that they put a bullet in that kid's head right after his mom spoke at the DNC.

01:25:43.000 Wow.

01:25:46.000 Evil, and I do believe Hamas is evil, responds to fear and power.

01:25:53.000 They have no fear of us, and they do not believe that we have the power to act.

01:25:58.000 Well, and they're kind of right, because, you know, the United States instructed Israel on how to conduct their self-defense and said, you know, stay out of Rafah, and now an American's been killed, an American civilian's been killed. 0.81

01:26:10.000 Did you see the report that a Kremlin official had said Kamala Harris is more predictable than Trump?

01:26:16.000 I think on a lot of fronts internationally, everyone looks at the Biden-Harris administration and the potential Harris-Walz administration as a signal of the downturn of America.

01:26:26.000 It signals weakness.

01:26:27.000 They know that they can do- Of course it does signal weakness.

01:26:30.000 They know they'll be able to do things, and they have been able to do things under Biden, that Trump would just never allow.

01:26:36.000 And part of that is just inherent personality.

01:26:38.000 Trump is better on the international stage, and he brings more diplomatically to the White House than anyone the Democrats have currently offered up.

01:26:47.000 Who, Nancy, fear Trump because they're not sure of what he's going to do?

01:26:51.000 And that's one of the best things about Trump, is that he's unpredictable.

01:26:55.000 So, you know, if you come out there and do something terrible to the United States, Trump might just be like, ah, nuke him.

01:27:02.000 And that's perfectly plausible.

01:27:04.000 And I love that.

01:27:06.000 But he breaks game theory.

01:27:08.000 That's what it is.

01:27:09.000 Like, you know what Biden's going to do or what Kamala's going to do. 1.00

01:27:12.000 You're going to do, like, a proportionate response, and they're going to say, like, give a little and pull back.

01:27:16.000 You've got a poker table in here.

01:27:17.000 The toughest guy to play poker against is a guy you don't know whether he's bluffing or not.

01:27:23.000 And you can make different choices based on that.

01:27:26.000 Well, let's play that analogy, because I love it.

01:27:29.000 When you're playing against your average player in poker, you have a general idea of the kind of hands they're going to play, the moves they're going to make, and you try to predict them.

01:27:37.000 But when someone shows up who doesn't know what they're doing, this is actually fascinating.

01:27:41.000 I'll try to explain this in the least jargony way possible.

01:27:45.000 If... If...

01:27:48.000 If you're playing with a bunch of regular guys, and they're all of moderate skill, are you a big player?

01:27:53.000 I'm not great.

01:27:54.000 I'm not great at math, sadly, but I love poker, so yes.

01:27:57.000 So you might, uh... I might, if I'm playing at a game and I know that all the players are regulars...

01:28:03.000 They play all the time.

01:28:05.000 I might actually try to exploit that and play a weaker hand.

01:28:08.000 Maybe I could bluff.

01:28:10.000 Maybe I can try and come underneath.

01:28:11.000 What does that mean?

01:28:12.000 So, if two guys are making big bets, they might both have Ace-King.

01:28:16.000 And they're blocking each other, it's called.

01:28:17.000 So I might play 5-6 suited, which has a lower percentage chance to win, but because they're bumping into each other, I'm going to take them both out. 0.96

01:28:24.000 The problem arrives when a dude shows up who's dumb as a box of rocks, but loaded, and bets on anything and everything. 0.90

01:28:30.000 Can't read him. 0.97

01:28:31.000 It restricts you to only a very small range of hands to play, because the guy's gonna bet everything no matter what, and there's something called fold equity.

01:28:40.000 I mean, I'm getting to it jargony.

01:28:41.000 The point is this.

01:28:43.000 When you get a wild card like Trump, you have to play as tight and as close to the chest as possible, because there's no room for error.

01:28:49.000 There's no bluffing.

01:28:50.000 Trump's gonna call you down.

01:28:52.000 You say, I'm gonna invade. 0.99

01:28:53.000 I'll nuke you, and you go... 0.99

01:28:55.000 He might! 0.99

01:28:56.000 You know Biden won't do it.

01:28:57.000 Biden's scared of fallout.

01:28:59.000 Trump, you might be thinking, Trump's more scared of his base.

01:29:03.000 And his base wants action.

01:29:06.000 So Trump had that famous interview, the phone call, where he said, he told Xi and Putin, he told Xi, if you invade Taiwan, I'm going to nuke Beijing.

01:29:14.000 And Putin, if you invade Ukraine, I'm going to nuke Moscow.

01:29:16.000 He's like, I don't know if they believed me, maybe 5%, but it was enough.

01:29:19.000 Yeah, I think that's 100% right.

01:29:22.000 And that bothers The quote-unquote foreign relations experts, because they want to have their backchannel conversations and say, well, if you do X, then we're going to do Y. But those authoritarians don't respect the general rules.

01:29:39.000 And so you need people who are willing to upset the calculus.

01:29:44.000 And I think Trump was.

01:29:45.000 I don't think that Putin would have ever invaded Ukraine if Trump were president.

01:29:48.000 I don't think Hamas would have attacked on October 7th Israel like they did.

01:29:53.000 If Trump were president.

01:29:54.000 I really don't.

01:29:55.000 If you start looking, like, the Wall Street Journal had extensive reporting on the planning

01:29:59.000 of that attack, and it started after Biden came into office.

01:30:03.000 That's when it started, because they knew that there was a weakness.

01:30:05.000 They knew that Biden was vulnerable to his anti-Israel base, and they went for it.

01:30:10.000 And that was planned.

01:30:11.000 But more importantly, the Ukraine tensions were escalating under Obama intentionally,

01:30:17.000 and everything froze when Donald Trump got in for a variety of reasons.

01:30:20.000 One, the decimation of ISIS.

01:30:23.000 Under Obama, ISIS was growing and growing out of control.

01:30:26.000 Trump gets in, Ukraine escalation stops, ISIS obliterated.

01:30:29.000 Biden gets back in, everything kicks back off again.

01:30:33.000 I mean, this is also true, again, of Russia.

01:30:35.000 If you look at the prisoner swap that just happened recently, I think the only American prisoner who wasn't held captive in Russia or detained in Russia before Biden got into office was Paul Whelan, the U.S.

01:30:48.000 Everyone else was after Biden was in office.

01:30:48.000 Marine.

01:30:52.000 You know, you can say all kinds of things.

01:30:53.000 There's a lot to be skeptical of that prisoner swap, but I really do think that there's a strategic reason that Americans became more vulnerable to being wrongfully detained in Russia after Biden became president.

01:31:05.000 Russia knows Biden is not able to negotiate, and they're looking at Kamala Harris and saying, cool, round two.

01:31:10.000 How about the fact that we got Brittany Griner and they got the merchant of death?

01:31:15.000 Right?

01:31:16.000 They got the like, I mean, she and by the way, she actually violated Russian drug law. 0.91

01:31:21.000 So it's not as if she was just grabbed and did nothing wrong.

01:31:24.000 This wasn't their claiming, obviously, that Evan Gersovich was just a Wall Street Journal reporter and did nothing at all wrong.

01:31:31.000 Brittany Griner admitted she violated Russian drug law. 0.76

01:31:34.000 And they got the merchant of death back during a friggin war.

01:31:39.000 And we got a WNBA player, right? 0.97

01:31:42.000 It's the worst trade of all time.

01:31:43.000 But they left Mark Fogle, who in a similar position also violated Russian drug law, but is in much worse condition than Brittany Griner. 0.90

01:31:50.000 He's got all kinds of health problems.

01:31:51.000 He's older and he didn't come home.

01:31:54.000 He has the problem that can't be handled, which is he's a white guy. 0.53

01:31:57.000 Yeah. 0.86

01:31:58.000 I mean, Brittany Griner, if she wasn't a black lesbian basketball player, would still be, if that was a white guy who did what Brittany Griner did, wasn't an athlete, wasn't famous, that person would still be in prison. 0.99

01:32:09.000 Do you remember Biden released all the photo ops with her, I don't know, spouse, wife, whatever, from the Oval Office and being like, I was just there having this moment.

01:32:19.000 Like, they use that as a celebrity photo op.

01:32:22.000 And yet all of these Americans were detained in Russia because of the Biden administration, because he is a weak president.

01:32:29.000 Again, Harris is, I would say, probably worse.

01:32:32.000 Which is where Trump is right on negotiation.

01:32:34.000 The thing that Trump gets better than anybody is leverage.

01:32:38.000 You give him, I mean, that's all that real estate guys do, right?

01:32:41.000 They find a leverage point and then they exploit it.

01:32:44.000 And Trump rightly pointed out that every time we make a trade with a terrorist organization in this way, we just incentivize the arrest of more Americans to create more bargaining chips for Russia or other maladroit actors out there.

01:33:01.000 Well, indeed.

01:33:02.000 You guys feeling confident in the Harris-Walls presidency?

01:33:05.000 Because I'm not.

01:33:06.000 Yeah, I hope that the Joy does not propel them into the White House.

01:33:11.000 So I learned something interesting today.

01:33:13.000 Did you guys know that New Order was actually Joy Division?

01:33:17.000 Yes.

01:33:18.000 Yeah, Joy Division, the lead singer, committed suicide.

01:33:21.000 It's very sad.

01:33:22.000 And the band didn't want to carry on.

01:33:23.000 They had agreed with the rest of the band that they would never regroup under the same name if one member were to leave.

01:33:28.000 And because of this, they said, we need a new band.

01:33:30.000 It became New Order.

01:33:31.000 Of course, New Order has Bloom Monday, which is one of the highest selling songs of all time.

01:33:35.000 And Joy Division was the name of a Nazi unit.

01:33:37.000 And they had to come out and say, that is not the intention of the name.

01:33:41.000 That's not what we meant.

01:33:42.000 Well, but you know what the Joy Division was?

01:33:44.000 What was it?

01:33:45.000 The Joy Division were call girls.

01:33:49.000 What, really?

01:33:49.000 Yeah, that was the Joy Division.

01:33:50.000 The Joy Division were... The Nazis? 0.81

01:33:52.000 Yeah, well, they were call girls to serve the Nazis. 0.57

01:33:55.000 Wow.

01:33:56.000 So when Joy Division made that... Is that what Kamala Harris is talking about now?

01:33:59.000 Is that why they're calling her the Joy candidate?

01:34:01.000 When Joy Division made that name, they were not saying, like, we're pro-Nazi.

01:34:06.000 They were saying, like, Nazis were exploiting women in this way.

01:34:10.000 No, I think they said that Joy Division was unrelated.

01:34:12.000 I could be wrong.

01:34:13.000 I don't know.

01:34:14.000 Well, whatever it is, if they were using it for that, that's what that was.

01:34:17.000 That's what the Joy Division was.

01:34:18.000 But how good of a song is True Faith?

01:34:20.000 It's a great song.

01:34:22.000 That goes on like so many of my playlists.

01:34:24.000 Absolutely.

01:34:24.000 Yeah.

01:34:25.000 Great band.

01:34:26.000 Do you know there's a great, you know the podcast?

01:34:28.000 I'm like, I have no idea.

01:34:29.000 I don't know that I know this song.

01:34:30.000 You know the song.

01:34:33.000 Is there like quintessentially 80s songs?

01:34:35.000 Can we pull it up?

01:34:36.000 I'm the worst at song names and bands and everything else.

01:34:40.000 I know College Football.

01:34:40.000 We'll get it for you in the members show.

01:34:42.000 You know Blue Monday, right?

01:34:44.000 Yes, I know that song.

01:34:45.000 You know Song Exploder, that podcast?

01:34:45.000 Of course.

01:34:47.000 So they did a breakdown of, I think it was Blue Monday, and they were talking to the original band members of New Order, and I forget the name of the guy who sang it, but he was like not a singer.

01:35:01.000 Yeah.

01:35:02.000 None of them wanted to sing, and none of them wanted to take the place of the, you know, former, was it Ian Schrager?

01:35:09.000 I will say this.

01:35:11.000 I live in Nashville.

01:35:12.000 Hearing songwriters explain how their songs came to be is, to me, one of the great under-discussed aspects of all of music.

01:35:22.000 Well, that's what this podcast, Song Exploder, is great.

01:35:23.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:35:24.000 It's a great idea.

01:35:25.000 It's a really good podcast.

01:35:26.000 Oh, I love the Kurt Cobain stories.

01:35:28.000 You know how Kurt Cobain's songs came to be?

01:35:30.000 Ian Curtis.

01:35:31.000 Yeah, Serge has it.

01:35:32.000 He was high on drugs and groaning.

01:35:33.000 He sure is the New York hotelier.

01:35:36.000 So I met, I knew some people who knew Kurt when I lived in Seattle briefly.

01:35:40.000 Yeah.

01:35:41.000 Older guys had worked in the music industry and they were like, a lot of the stuff that he wrote, he was just high.

01:35:46.000 And just, that's why I like, if you look at Smells Like Teen Spirit, what is that even about?

01:35:51.000 Or even... So many of the best songs are about nothing.

01:35:54.000 To be fair, Nirvana songs actually, a lot of them do, they are about things for sure.

01:35:59.000 But some of them were just not.

01:36:01.000 I think that's okay.

01:36:02.000 I don't think you have to be about something every time.

01:36:05.000 Well, I think most music today is about nothing.

01:36:07.000 It's not about anything.

01:36:08.000 Today it's about self-aggrandizement, primarily, I think.

01:36:11.000 Except for Taylor Swift, who's amazing.

01:36:14.000 Yeah, you know, it's kind of crazy how... I wonder when we look back at the songs that have a big impact compared to where they were at the time.

01:36:25.000 I think the impact of Fortunate Son, for instance, is substantially larger after the fact than it was at the time.

01:36:31.000 It was a big song, of course, but these days it's like representative of an era of the protest of anti-war, you know?

01:36:39.000 I was reading It's the 25th anniversary of the Matrix, right?

01:36:44.000 Which came out, I believe, in 1999.

01:36:46.000 And if you remember, obviously, the reason why it's set in 1999 in the movie is because they say that America peaked in 1999.

01:36:52.000 It's technically 200 years later or whatever it is.

01:36:57.000 I kind of think we might have peaked in 1999.

01:36:58.000 in 1999. I mean, 25 years later, I think it seems like even more true.

01:37:03.000 The greatest generation.

01:37:04.000 The cultural reward for everything horrible we'd gone through, and that's what we got.

01:37:10.000 We got like Calvin Klein wearing black. We got, you know, Kate Moss and Greg Music.

01:37:15.000 Rap music was at its apex, I would argue.

01:37:18.000 Rock music was at its apex.

01:37:20.000 Now, you could have some fun debates if everybody else out there wants.

01:37:23.000 Like, I think you can argue 80s versus 90s, but in almost anything, and it's a great debate.

01:37:29.000 I agree with you.

01:37:29.000 90s.

01:37:30.000 I think the 90s.

01:37:31.000 Well, 80s is my favorite.

01:37:33.000 I love 80s music.

01:37:34.000 But everything was like, if you were to line up all the decades, it's like, they're all moving in this direction, and then the 80s happens, and then the 90s happens.

01:37:43.000 But the 90s was the last decade.

01:37:45.000 It was very chill.

01:37:46.000 Can I tell a really quick story?

01:37:48.000 So I had these friends who were visual artists in the 90s, and they were all in New York, and they got a a gig to make the mothership for P-Funk, you know?

01:37:56.000 And they got, like, thousands of dollars to make this mothership to come out on stage.

01:38:00.000 But they didn't make it.

01:38:01.000 They, like, didn't do anything.

01:38:02.000 Instead, they took us all out for, you know, massive sushi dinners.

01:38:06.000 We had fun with it.

01:38:07.000 And, like, we all got really messed up and did a lot of drugs and stuff.

01:38:11.000 And then it was two nights before they had to, like, turn in their thing and have their project, and they're all at the big warehouse.

01:38:17.000 And they made it out of, like, tinfoil PVC pipe.

01:38:20.000 Was the result good?

01:38:21.000 The result was awesome!

01:38:22.000 It was a killer review!

01:38:23.000 The 90s, of course it was!

01:38:24.000 We gotta go to Super Chits, but I wanna say, the 90s was the last decade.

01:38:28.000 And what I mean by that is that you look at the 20s, the 30s, the 40s, the 50s, the 60s, the 70s, they all have this cultural distinction.

01:38:33.000 The 80s...

01:38:37.000 The 80s, didn't they?

01:38:37.000 Woof!

01:38:38.000 I mean, leopard print hot pants?

01:38:41.000 It was nuts!

01:38:41.000 Come on!

01:38:42.000 And in the 90s you had the baggy jeans with the holes in the knees and alternative music, JNCOs.

01:38:48.000 The 2000s have something.

01:38:50.000 There's something there.

01:38:51.000 There's maybe like a little bit of like pop punky emo stuff.

01:38:54.000 It really seems like the internet kind of ended this.

01:38:57.000 Everything you're describing is basically pre-internet.

01:38:59.000 It was also the 9-11.

01:39:00.000 9-11 ended a lot of it.

01:39:01.000 I don't think 9-11 ended culture.

01:39:03.000 It's the internet.

01:39:03.000 Because I think the early 2000s, it was less so.

01:39:06.000 There was some internet.

01:39:07.000 It was on the rise.

01:39:08.000 But by 2010, we were an internet culture.

01:39:10.000 And now culture is just... Well, Morrissey is still doing it.

01:39:12.000 Morrissey is still out there being based.

01:39:14.000 It is so fascinating.

01:39:16.000 There's no unified culture anymore.

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01:40:01.000 Howdy people! 0.96

01:40:01.000 He says, this is for the impending lawsuit. 0.96

01:40:04.000 The lying with impunity of present day needs all the pushback we can muster.

01:40:08.000 Good sir, I appreciate it.

01:40:09.000 Welcome back.

01:40:10.000 And as always, when you decide to be, you're first.

01:40:15.000 Shane Wilder says, best of luck with the legal action.

01:40:17.000 They need to realize this cannot stand.

01:40:20.000 We need precedent.

01:40:21.000 We need new precedent.

01:40:22.000 It is insane to me that—let's say you, Clay, lie about Libby.

01:40:28.000 And you didn't know—well, I shouldn't say lie.

01:40:30.000 You were wrong.

01:40:31.000 You were wrong.

01:40:33.000 You said Libby kicked a dog.

01:40:34.000 Misinformation.

01:40:35.000 Misinformation.

01:40:36.000 Libby says, I never kicked a dog.

01:40:37.000 And you say, well, I'm reporting based on a photo of your foot out and the dog flying in the air.

01:40:42.000 Multiple sources say, so I think it's true, and I think that's fair.

01:40:45.000 So Libby sues for defamation. 1.00

01:40:47.000 Times v. Sullivan kicks in.

01:40:48.000 You got that first.

01:40:49.000 And it's, well, did he know?

01:40:51.000 First, a motion to dismiss.

01:40:54.000 The judge says, this is the news.

01:40:55.000 Get out of here.

01:40:57.000 Let's say, in the course of this, the conclusion is, actually, He was wrong.

01:41:03.000 Libby has the video showing that the dog actually jumped in the air and she tripped and fell backwards.

01:41:07.000 It was totally a matter of kicking a dog.

01:41:09.000 And there is nothing, no remedy for the news outlet that falsely published that you had to kick the dog so long as you said, at the time we didn't know, you were allowed to keep the article up and continue to make money and share it with no correction.

01:41:23.000 That's rude.

01:41:24.000 That's insane that we live in this society!

01:41:26.000 My argument is, the remedy should be simple.

01:41:29.000 We can keep anti-SLAPP.

01:41:30.000 We can keep Times v. Sullivan.

01:41:32.000 And then in the event, you go to court, and you say, the first thing is, when you sue, present to the judge your evidence of why what they're saying is false.

01:41:42.000 So, let me kick the dog. 1.00

01:41:43.000 She says, Your Honor, here's a video.

01:41:45.000 The dog was never kicked.

01:41:46.000 Here's their claim.

01:41:47.000 It is false.

01:41:48.000 The judge goes, did you know this was false?

01:41:50.000 No, I didn't.

01:41:51.000 Discovery, there's no evidence he knew it was false.

01:41:54.000 Okay, sir, you have to take it down and apologize.

01:41:56.000 That doesn't exist!

01:41:57.000 They just say he didn't know it was false, he's allowed to lie.

01:42:00.000 Times v. Sullivan is an outdated First Amendment case, and I've been arguing for a long time that it needs to be updated.

01:42:10.000 And, I mean, I worked in media, I still work in media, obviously, ran and still run to a large degree outkick, but I believe there should be consequences when you are beyond negligent.

01:42:25.000 In the same way, take it outside of this, if you drive a car, And you are behaving in a manner that is beyond just mere negligence.

01:42:36.000 You can be charged with a criminal offense if you hit somebody on a street, right?

01:42:42.000 So are you saying criminal charges for defamation?

01:42:45.000 No, but there are different standards of gradation beyond mere negligence.

01:42:50.000 There's criminal negligence.

01:42:52.000 There's manslaughter, right?

01:42:53.000 You can take different steps.

01:42:55.000 I think the standard of negligence can be applied to written articles.

01:43:00.000 But it is.

01:43:02.000 It's the malice or reckless disregard for the truth.

01:43:04.000 But that standard is virtually impossible to meet because they've created public and private figure distinctions.

01:43:11.000 There is no public and private distinction when you're driving a car and you hit somebody.

01:43:17.000 You're not like, oh, that person, well, that person was famous.

01:43:20.000 So they're more deserving of getting hit by a car, so we have a different standard.

01:43:25.000 I don't believe in the modern era that there should be a difference between a public and a private figure.

01:43:31.000 I think we have to go back and redefine it.

01:43:32.000 In the 1960s, most people's name never ended up in the newspaper.

01:43:36.000 Right so it would make sense in some way that you would say okay this newspaper which has scads of lawyers reviewing everything before it's published is only writing about public figures because most people's names only appeared with day you were born day you died right nowadays every single person is one viral post away from being the Hawktua girl and everybody in the whole planet knows your name.

01:44:02.000 They claimed the Covington Kid was an involuntary public figure, so the standard applied.

01:44:07.000 And so what happens on a lot of these cases, Covington Kid's a perfect example.

01:44:11.000 Nicholas Sandman, if I remember his name correctly, they settled that case.

01:44:15.000 Because CNN and the Washington Post and all those people.

01:44:18.000 Did he get millions?

01:44:19.000 We don't know that.

01:44:19.000 We don't know for sure.

01:44:20.000 We don't know if they ever came out.

01:44:21.000 He was awarded millions.

01:44:22.000 Well, the numbers are not public.

01:44:24.000 We know that he settled the cases.

01:44:26.000 I don't think that it's ever come out exactly what he got.

01:44:28.000 My point is most of the time people like that settle cases rather than roll the dice and try to set new precedents.

01:44:35.000 Right.

01:44:36.000 And so we need a new precedent that goes all the way.

01:44:38.000 I'll give you another example.

01:44:40.000 The Fox lawsuit that got settled.

01:44:42.000 I think Fox, in my opinion, Fox was 100% right and would have won that case if they had taken it all the way to the Supreme Court.

01:44:52.000 And they may well have come out with a new standard in our modern digital era for how we handle this.

01:44:58.000 And we will do it.

01:44:59.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:45:00.000 Somebody needs to take it all the way and allow, because there are several justices who have said, Times v. Sullivan is antiquated based on our modern media era.

01:45:09.000 We need an update.

01:45:10.000 Just for people who don't know, that means if you're a public figure and someone lies about you, you have to be able to prove that they knew they were lying or it was reckless disregard for the truth.

01:45:21.000 The problem is, and you also have anti-SLAPP, I don't completely disagree, but there has to be new precedent.

01:45:28.000 So the issue is, the corporate press, I'll tell you a story, lied about me.

01:45:33.000 One of these activist lefty journalists at a major corporation published fake news.

01:45:37.000 So activist writes blog. 0.75

01:45:39.000 Corporate journalist at major, big three, takes the source, publishes article.

01:45:45.000 It gets picked up by three different tabloids.

01:45:48.000 The corporate outlet then removes the portion of the story and cuts out the source.

01:45:54.000 So now it's no longer in the story.

01:45:56.000 The tabloids all then reference each other.

01:45:58.000 Yep.

01:45:59.000 When I sent an email to the first, I said, this is factually incorrect.

01:46:02.000 And they say, our reporting is based on this article right here.

01:46:04.000 We are only saying they reported it.

01:46:06.000 We are not saying it.

01:46:07.000 I contacted the next outlet and they said, no, no, we did not claim you did this.

01:46:11.000 We are only reporting what outlet C said.

01:46:13.000 See, we're referencing what they said.

01:46:15.000 I go to the next outlet and say, no, no, we're only referencing what outlet Let me give you a good example of this I had in my most recent book.

01:46:20.000 A, B, and C, and A cites B, B cites C, C cites A, and argues we are not responsible for this

01:46:26.000 information because we are not reporting it.

01:46:29.000 We are only referencing it, but it creates this infinite loop.

01:46:33.000 It's defamation genesis.

01:46:34.000 We're going to call it defamation genesis.

01:46:39.000 Let me give you a good example of this I had in my most recent book.

01:46:42.000 If it were just negligence, if they just screwed up every now and then.

01:46:47.000 No matter what you do, every now and then, people screw up.

01:46:50.000 I mean, that's life.

01:46:51.000 We're imperfect.

01:46:53.000 How many stricken, positive articles that were negligent have the Washington Post, the New York Times, NPR published about Donald Trump that were beneficial to him that were just negligent in his favor.

01:47:11.000 Politico has two articles up right now.

01:47:13.000 One saying Ukraine interfered in the 2016 election to help Hillary Clinton and another saying the story that Hillary Clinton was helped by Ukraine is Russian disinformation.

01:47:23.000 These people are evil.

01:47:24.000 But I mean, do you see the point? 0.81

01:47:25.000 Like, if they were just negligent, Trump would benefit.

01:47:29.000 There would be a story like, Donald Trump saved eight kittens from drowning in the Potomac River.

01:47:34.000 And you'd be like, oh, that was super nice of him.

01:47:36.000 I'm glad he likes kittens.

01:47:37.000 And then they would come out and say, actually, sorry, we got that one wrong.

01:47:41.000 Name me a pro-Trump story that they have gotten wrong.

01:47:45.000 It doesn't happen.

01:47:46.000 All right, let's read this one.

01:47:47.000 Cameron says, do you guys think Virginia is in play for Trump?

01:47:50.000 Yes.

01:47:51.000 Because Virginia is going paper ballot.

01:47:54.000 This is where I come back and I say, if Virginia ends up super close, and Glenn Youngkin could have added 50,000 votes to Trump, which I think he could have, That could have been the knockout blow.

01:48:07.000 I love J.D.

01:48:08.000 I think he was a good choice, but politically, I'm not sure that he changed the calculus in any substantial way.

01:48:15.000 You guys tell me, do you think Glenn Youngkin could have added 50,000 votes to Trump in Virginia?

01:48:20.000 I don't.

01:48:20.000 I think he maybe could have.

01:48:22.000 Maybe, but I don't think he is as big a name as J.D.

01:48:25.000 Vance is.

01:48:26.000 Vance brings more to the Trump campaign.

01:48:26.000 I think J.D.

01:48:30.000 And historically, you know, vice presidential candidates don't necessarily guarantee you an election.

01:48:35.000 They influence public opinion, but they don't necessarily guarantee electoral votes.

01:48:41.000 It's, what I find fascinating about the timing of choosing J.D.

01:48:44.000 Vance is, again, he's a fresh politician but he has experience in the Senate and I just, and I always go back to this, everyone who's listening will get so tired of me saying it, but I think Hillbilly Elegy has a profound impact on the American psyche because the people I knew who were referencing it were all, you know, intense liberal women.

01:49:03.000 And I think that is a long-term investment in the future of the MAGA movement.

01:49:07.000 Glenn Youngkin maybe would have done something, but I don't know that he could really go to bat for Trump the way J.D.

01:49:13.000 Vance has proven that he can.

01:49:14.000 I think J.D.

01:49:15.000 Vance makes sense in the Midwest.

01:49:16.000 I actually think coming off of the assassination attempt, Trump wanted somebody who would actually be super conservative behind him to try.

01:49:26.000 I mean, I think this factored in on some level if somebody tried to kill him.

01:49:30.000 If you know that you've got Nikki Haley in the background.

01:49:35.000 Do you sit around and worry that that's going to incentivize that from occurring again?

01:49:40.000 I wonder if that didn't factor in.

01:49:42.000 But if it comes down to 50,000 votes, I think, Junkin, I think you're right generally.

01:49:47.000 There aren't very many examples, though, of somebody making a choice to try to deliver a specific state because it's so rare.

01:49:55.000 So it's a hard hypothesis to test out because it would also require that it be close, right?

01:49:59.000 I think Kamala made the wrong decision when she didn't take Shapiro.

01:50:03.000 Oh, agreed.

01:50:03.000 I think she should have 100% taken him.

01:50:05.000 Well, I think that there was a concerted effort to get her to not take Shapiro because he's actually good at his job.

01:50:13.000 Also Jewish.

01:50:13.000 He's well-liked in Pennsylvania.

01:50:15.000 Yeah, there's the Jewish thing as well, too, because he's pro-Israel.

01:50:18.000 And he would have outshined her.

01:50:20.000 That's the thing, yeah.

01:50:21.000 We got this super chat from Hotel Lama saying, Trump said he wants to legalize weed on Lex interview, supports the initiative in Florida as an example of how to do it.

01:50:31.000 Good move.

01:50:31.000 I agree with him.

01:50:32.000 A lot of conservatives are mad they don't want weed legalized.

01:50:35.000 I have friends who think weed should not be legalized.

01:50:37.000 But I take a more libertarian stance on this.

01:50:41.000 I'm not a big fan of pot.

01:50:42.000 I don't smoke.

01:50:44.000 Not a fan of people who smoke all the time.

01:50:46.000 I don't mind if people are, you know, in their own homes doing whatever they want, but I'm not a big fan of it.

01:50:51.000 But I do believe it's the right move, and I believe Trump should have.

01:50:53.000 And I said this back in 2020.

01:50:56.000 Mass pardon non-violent offenders who did not accept plea deals on marijuana charges.

01:51:02.000 So it would require a large review.

01:51:05.000 We don't want somebody who is criminally charged for marijuana possession at the federal level a lot.

01:51:10.000 But it was actually that he was in a shootout and then he pled down.

01:51:13.000 So I said Trump should pardon all these guys.

01:51:16.000 I mean, look, I said Trump should bring on Tulsi Gabbard.

01:51:19.000 I said Trump should do the weed thing.

01:51:20.000 He's doing it now.

01:51:21.000 It's the right move.

01:51:22.000 I agree with Tulsi.

01:51:24.000 I don't have a strong opinion on the weed thing.

01:51:27.000 My concern is moving beyond weed.

01:51:31.000 But if I had to choose... Like Oregon.

01:51:33.000 Oregon did that. 0.94

01:51:34.000 Oregon.

01:51:34.000 Oregon did that.

01:51:35.000 And they pulled it back.

01:51:36.000 I think you look at a lot of those left coast cities that have legalized weed and It hasn't gone well because I think it's liberalized drug use laws.

01:51:46.000 And I used to be a guy who was like, you know, I think you should just legalize and tax most drugs.

01:51:52.000 I think that left-wing cities have tried that.

01:51:54.000 It's kind of a disaster.

01:51:57.000 But if I had to choose between, hey, do you want your kid using alcohol all the time or smoking weed occasionally?

01:52:04.000 I'd rather my kid smoke weed occasionally than drink every day, personally.

01:52:08.000 I think there's a big faction of the Republican Party that's sort of crunchy in a weird way.

01:52:13.000 And the challenge with marijuana is that the way it's classified right now, it's very difficult to study.

01:52:20.000 And so it's really one of these things where, like, Generally, I think that all substances can be harmful depending on your personality and your genetic makeup.

01:52:30.000 And I agree with you.

01:52:31.000 I think making them legalized in a lot of states has encouraged other abuse of drugs and caused a lot of other problems.

01:52:39.000 But with marijuana specifically, I think that, you know, if we don't study it, we don't really know how to interpret it.

01:52:47.000 And so there's a level of like, I don't know that it should be legal, but I definitely think that we should treat it like something we're studying, which we can't really Well, there's a weird thing, though, with legal weed, which is that since weed got legalized, it's become a hell of a lot stronger and way more intense and crazy.

01:53:05.000 And I remember back in the good old days, in the 90s, I'd buy a dime bag and it would have seeds and stems in it.

01:53:12.000 And you can't buy stuff like that anymore.

01:53:14.000 You can't buy mid-level weed at this point.

01:53:18.000 Yeah, yeah, you know, like what they were selling at the coffee shop, whatever.

01:53:22.000 But, um, you know, you can't, that doesn't exist.

01:53:25.000 So now when kids are getting into legal weed, it's insane.

01:53:29.000 It's like psychedelics.

01:53:31.000 They may as well be dropping LSD. 0.97

01:53:33.000 I also think it'd be funny if he had said, and I'm going to bomb the cartels.

01:53:38.000 Because then you just cover both sides like, yeah, I'm going to get into people who are like mad about the weed, but you're like, okay, we're really going to try to stop fentanyl from coming in and killing 100,000 people.

01:53:47.000 New York did this weird thing where they decriminalized weed, and then all the corner bodegas started selling weed with absolutely no regulation.

01:53:56.000 And then the state tried to do a thing where You know, the first weed licenses go to people who had been formerly incarcerated for weed charges.

01:54:04.000 And they tried to get all the bodegas to stop selling like loose joints and whatever else.

01:54:11.000 And there's no way to pull that back.

01:54:13.000 So now there's like an an illegal yet decriminalized trade in marijuana in every corner store in the city, and there's people who were formerly incarcerated getting prioritized for proper licenses who are actually paying the taxes, thereby getting penalized again.

01:54:31.000 You know what's fascinating to me about the weed thing is we basically have eliminated cigarette smoking among young people and replaced it with weed.

01:54:39.000 Like my kids... Well, vape for now.

01:54:41.000 My kids, when they see someone actually smoking a cigarette, it's like someone shooting up with heroin.

01:54:47.000 They're like, oh my god, dad!

01:54:49.000 It's terrible!

01:54:49.000 He's smoking a cigarette!

01:54:51.000 But now they're, you know... It is kind of amazing how we just shift what the morally acceptable... Meanwhile, when we were kids growing up, mom and grandma are just smoking like crazy and the windows are rolled up.

01:55:03.000 Alright, we got this from Sean.

01:55:04.000 He says, Tim, please convince Clay to come back for your Culture War show with Keith Olbermann.

01:55:10.000 Do you know about that?

01:55:12.000 Keith Olbermann used to... I know who he is.

01:55:14.000 He's nuts. 1.00

01:55:15.000 He's crazy! 1.00

01:55:16.000 But he was... When I was a kid...

01:55:19.000 I would wake up in the morning, I would put on ESPN SportsCenter, because I had to go to bed before the games ended, I would sit and eat my cereal, and I would watch Keith Olbermann on television with Dan Patrick.

01:55:30.000 And if you had told me when I was 13, Keith Olbermann will ever know your name, I would have thought that I was the baddest-ass person on the planet. 0.96

01:55:40.000 Keith Olbermann is an insane man. 0.99

01:55:42.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:55:43.000 And he comes after me all the time.

01:55:47.000 And I read it and I'm like, this is maybe a good example for your point about he's over 50, he's never gotten married, he doesn't have any kids, and I think at some point if you get to that age, maybe particularly if you're male, you just get so wrapped up in your own craziness that your world spirals out of control.

01:56:09.000 Well, I think the important thing to understand too is When you're young, you have friends by force.

01:56:15.000 You make friends because you're in school or... That's a great point.

01:56:18.000 Your parents are going someplace and there's other kids in the play area or whatever.

01:56:22.000 And so as you get older and you no longer are forced... This is why people after high school, they don't hang out anymore.

01:56:28.000 You go to different colleges.

01:56:30.000 While you're in college, you make different friends.

01:56:32.000 It's because you're just not in the same places and you don't really have a choice.

01:56:36.000 When you're older and you're out of college, now it's work.

01:56:38.000 You know your friends from work.

01:56:39.000 You talk to them.

01:56:40.000 Some of them you don't even like, but you're there because it's your job.

01:56:43.000 And then where are your friends from college?

01:56:44.000 Well, they moved for a job, and then you start having less and less friends, but this is how life goes.

01:56:49.000 You then have a wife or a husband.

01:56:51.000 You then have children.

01:56:53.000 Then you have a family.

01:56:54.000 You periodically go on vacation, see some of your old friends and their kids, and then your company is your family. 0.97

01:57:00.000 For someone like Keith Olbermann, and many people like him, especially what's-her-face, that lady who wakes up in the morning to masturbate, what's her name? 0.94

01:57:07.000 Chelsea Handler. 0.98

01:57:07.000 Yes, Chelsea Handler. 0.98

01:57:09.000 Self-indulgence.

01:57:10.000 They don't have friends.

01:57:12.000 And I don't mean to say that there's literally no hanging out with them.

01:57:14.000 Of course they have friends.

01:57:17.000 They're at a point in their lives where friendship is not the same as it used to be, and they attach themselves to social media because they need social interaction, whereas people with kids...

01:57:26.000 Spend time with their kids!

01:57:27.000 And they spend time with their families, and that's where their concern is.

01:57:30.000 It's very inward.

01:57:32.000 For people like Keith Olbermann, he has nothing but the external social interactions he gets from going online.

01:57:38.000 He doesn't have the buddies coming by to play video games.

01:57:41.000 He's older than that, so they don't come by to play ball or go for a ride anymore.

01:57:44.000 The only social interaction he's gonna get is going on social media.

01:57:47.000 I gotta tell you, Keith, the poker tables are good fun.

01:57:50.000 That's where the retirees go.

01:57:52.000 You cash your social security check, you sit down, you fold every hand until you get aces, and then you bet, and then you win, and you sit there all day.

01:57:59.000 That's what they do for their social interaction, and I approve of that.

01:58:02.000 There also is studies, you guys may be able to speak to this, women seem better at preserving relationships as they age than men are.

01:58:10.000 This is something I hear from my guy friends.

01:58:12.000 They'll be like, you're still friends with that person?

01:58:15.000 Yes.

01:58:16.000 There's a comedian.

01:58:17.000 I forgot his name.

01:58:18.000 He had this great bit where he said, so a friend of mine recently got divorced and hadn't seen him in a while and decided to go play a round of golf with him.

01:58:27.000 And so we went and when I came back, my wife said, so how's he doing?

01:58:31.000 And I went, I don't know.

01:58:34.000 And she was like, what?

01:58:34.000 Yeah.

01:58:35.000 She's like, well, is he, is he seeing someone?

01:58:37.000 He's like, didn't come up and she's like, what do you, are you friends

01:58:42.000 with this person? Yeah. She's like, did you talk to him? It's like, we played golf. Yeah.

01:58:47.000 That's it!

01:58:48.000 You have no idea!

01:58:49.000 That's funny because I talked to my son's best friend.

01:58:52.000 I've said this before, but he moved to Morocco with his family or whatever.

01:58:56.000 And they'll still play video games.

01:58:57.000 They'll play Xbox and they'll both be online.

01:59:01.000 And they'll be done and they will have been playing for like two hours or something.

01:59:04.000 And I'll be like, oh, how's he doing?

01:59:06.000 How's school?

01:59:07.000 How's his family?

01:59:08.000 How's everything going?

01:59:09.000 And my son will be like, I don't know.

01:59:10.000 I got it.

01:59:11.000 I figured it out.

01:59:12.000 So we're trying to set up this private club on the second floor of our coffee shop.

01:59:16.000 We're going to get a ratty old couch.

01:59:18.000 We're going to get an old 90s television or early 2000s box TV with an original Xbox.

01:59:27.000 And it's going to be for late 30s guys to come and hang out having pizza and Mountain Dew.

01:59:32.000 Sounds, by the way, amazing to me already.

01:59:34.000 And I'm a little bit too old.

01:59:36.000 Just once in a while to be like, that's what we used to do in college.

01:59:40.000 Because there's this meme where it was like, this guy's telling a story where he was like...

01:59:45.000 Me and my friends met up after class, we go to my buddy's house, we ordered a couple extra large pepperoni pizzas, brought a bunch of Mountain Dew, played Halo split-screen all night laughing, making jokes.

01:59:58.000 It got to about 1 or 2 in the morning, stood up, everybody was laughing and having a good time, went to the door and said, later guys, see ya, we'll play again next week.

02:00:06.000 We never played again for that.

02:00:08.000 I wonder where those guys went.

02:00:10.000 One day was the last day you hung out with your buddies and you didn't realize it.

02:00:13.000 I hate that.

02:00:16.000 You said that story ages ago, and now I think about it all the time, and I'll be like, oh, is this the last time I'm going to do this with my kid?

02:00:25.000 The thing is, men and women socialize differently.

02:00:28.000 If you've read the book Men Are From Mars and Women Are From Venus, John Gray talks about the fact that men go to lunch to solve a problem.

02:00:35.000 You go to talk about something.

02:00:37.000 Women go to lunch to just chat. 1.00

02:00:38.000 to gather information.

02:00:40.000 And it's important.

02:00:41.000 And everyone has to tell their story about the thing their husband did.

02:00:44.000 There's a reason that my college group of girlfriends, the first night of our weekend together

02:00:48.000 after a year or several months apart, we opened with a slideshow presentation

02:00:52.000 on the updates in everyone's life.

02:00:54.000 And I told this to a male friend and he was like, this is insane.

02:00:57.000 What are you doing?

02:00:58.000 But I genuinely wanna know.

02:01:00.000 Whereas the video game thing resembles the problem solving.

02:01:03.000 We have come to play the game and then to leave.

02:01:05.000 So on top of the hanging out with your buddies thing, one day you picked up your child for the last time

02:01:12.000 and you didn't know it.

02:01:16.000 Exactly.

02:01:16.000 I just, I mean, I've got my nine-year-old and I still walk around with him on my shoulders because I'm terrified.

02:01:22.000 No, you have a nine-year-old.

02:01:23.000 I can't pick up my child anymore.

02:01:24.000 He is now four inches taller than me.

02:01:27.000 He's got like, he's got like a lot of weight on me.

02:01:31.000 Hold on, let me tell you this.

02:01:32.000 I bought the Nintendo old school.

02:01:34.000 I'll tell this story on the member show.

02:01:36.000 But I will say the last thing is there's a funny meme where the dad, a guy says he saw that post.

02:01:42.000 So he walked over to his 20-something-year-old son and lifted him up.

02:01:45.000 And his son was like, Dad, what are you doing?

02:01:46.000 And he's like, I saw this thing that said you picked up your kid for the last time,

02:01:49.000 so I wanted to do it one more time.

02:01:50.000 Anyway, smash the like button, subscribe to this channel, share the show with your friends.

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02:02:17.000 Clay, do you want to shout anything out?

02:02:19.000 I had an awesome time.

02:02:20.000 I'm looking forward to hanging out for another hour.

02:02:22.000 Appreciate you guys having me.

02:02:23.000 My wife just texted me and said, Blue Monday was my first floor music in gymnastics. 0.98

02:02:30.000 So I told her to watch, so there you go.

02:02:32.000 She is a genius on music, by the way, unlike me.

02:02:35.000 I think Blue Monday is the highest-selling 12-inch single of all time or something like that.

02:02:40.000 Yeah, something like that.

02:02:42.000 And I've got an 8-bit Nintendo story on the flip side.

02:02:46.000 Let's get it.

02:02:46.000 Where can people follow you?

02:02:48.000 At Clay Travis, the one that I do myself is Twitter.

02:02:51.000 I know I'm on Instagram and TikTok too, but, uh, or whatever else they put me, but yeah, they put videos up, but I do every tweet is from me.

02:03:00.000 So if you, if you're interested in me, I'm at Clay Travis.

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02:03:10.000 I know that's shocking for everyone to believe.

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02:03:26.000 It's been so fun having you here, Olivia.

02:03:28.000 It's always fun to see you.

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02:03:39.000 That's why there haven't been any in a really long time.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - September 03, 2024

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