Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Tim Pool & Crew CRASH White House Press Briefing And Liberal Media IS PISSED | Timcast IRL

00:01:47.000 You know, today was a rather slow news day.

00:01:49.000 We do have some stories.

00:01:51.000 The Trump administration is canceling student loan forgiveness, and they're going to begin collections.

00:01:55.000 A bunch of really small stories and some independent research.

00:02:00.000 It looks like Elsagate has returned, and YouTube is promoting to hundreds of millions of viewers, probably babies, creepy AI videos, just like we saw almost 10 years ago.

00:02:11.000 Now, we do have a bunch of other smaller stories, but today...

00:02:14.000 We actually were going back and forth on this, and I want to stress, I wasn't so sure if we should lead with me and ourselves, but I guess we will because this actually is a top-trending story on X. It's the third largest-trending story or highest-trending story in the country that I sat in the new media seat,

00:02:32.000 I, Tim Pool, and asked a question about the media lying in what's called the Maryland man hoax.

00:02:38.000 And boy, is the media pissed about it.

00:02:40.000 We knew they would be, and I thought I was being rather professional.

00:02:42.000 So we can break down exactly how this went down and why I was at the White House and the reaction to it.

00:02:47.000 But this does strike at the core of the Abrego Garcia story in which the media has been lying.

00:02:53.000 And following the question I asked in the briefing room, which was intending to highlight that the media is lying about this story, they are continuing to lie and claim that a man from El Salvador, we got the court documents, is actually from Maryland.

00:03:08.000 Now, from means you originated from this place.

00:03:10.000 It's a lie.

00:03:11.000 So we'll go through that.

00:03:12.000 And I got a bunch of great interviews today at the White House.

00:03:17.000 It's a very interesting day.

00:03:18.000 We have a lot to talk about.

00:03:19.000 And we will be rolling out interviews in the next couple of days as well.

00:03:21.000 But we can discuss some of what was said.

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00:04:37.000 This one's going to get interesting, I suppose.

00:04:39.000 We have a couple of individuals here to join us today.

00:04:41.000 Why don't we just start with you, sir?

00:04:42.000 Would you introduce yourself?

00:04:43.000 Yeah, my name is Andrew Roth.

00:04:45.000 I am the president of the State Freedom Caucus Network.

00:04:48.000 The best way to explain it is most of your listeners know who the House Freedom Caucus is in Congress.

00:04:54.000 They're the most conservative lawmakers in D.C. But there are 50 state capitals out there.

00:04:59.000 There are 50 swamps in the 50 state capitals.

00:05:02.000 And I will strenuously argue that they are swampier than D.C. We can get into that if you want.

00:05:09.000 But the network that I run, we help create state freedom caucuses.

00:05:13.000 So we have a South Carolina Freedom Caucus, a Maryland Freedom Caucus, Illinois, Arizona, Pennsylvania, on and on.

00:05:21.000 We've got 13 of them.

00:05:22.000 The goal is to get into all 50. California, Vermont, going to take some time, but we'll get there eventually.

00:05:29.000 And the way to get back to this country is from the states. 0.83

00:05:32.000 Right on.

00:05:33.000 And sir, who are you?

00:05:34.000 I'm Jordan Pace.

00:05:35.000 I'm the chairman of the South Carolina Freedom Caucus.

00:05:38.000 I'm a state representative right outside of Charleston, South Carolina.

00:05:41.000 And I've been a long-time listener to the show.

00:05:44.000 Excited to be here and tell you all about what we're doing in the South.

00:05:48.000 Should be fun.

00:05:49.000 We've got Raymond hanging out.

00:05:50.000 Hey, guys.

00:05:50.000 It's Raymond.

00:05:51.000 I work here at TimCast.

00:05:52.000 And I look forward to talking to you gentlemen about the Freedom Caucus and what you've got going on, as well as Tim blowing up the news today.

00:05:57.000 That's going to be exciting.

00:05:58.000 Phil. Hello, everybody.

00:06:00.000 My name is Phil Labonte.

00:06:01.000 I'm the lead singer of the heavy metal band All That Remains.

00:06:03.000 I'm an anti-communist and a counter-revolutionary.

00:06:05.000 Let's get into it.

00:06:06.000 Here's the story.

00:06:07.000 I want to say this first.

00:06:09.000 The reason why we put up the – normally we have the waiting room up 20 minutes early.

00:06:14.000 It's because we were originally going to go with the student debt forgiveness from Trump.

00:06:18.000 But the crew here, I think, agreed.

00:06:21.000 I had asked him.

00:06:22.000 This actually was a top-trending story.

00:06:25.000 I hate to make myself the news, but that's what happened.

00:06:28.000 I love it.

00:06:36.000 I'll just read what my question was.

00:06:39.000 I said, We're an MS-13 gang member adjudicated by two different judges, I believe, is just simply being referred to as a Maryland man over and over.

00:06:56.000 Now in an effort from the White House to expand access to new companies, you've created this new media seat.

00:07:00.000 So I'm wondering if you can comment on this, on following this expansion.

00:07:03.000 You've had numerous outlets disparage the companies that you've had sit here, as well as the reporters.

00:07:09.000 I'm wondering if you would comment on that unprofessional behavior, as well as elaborate if there's any plans to expand access to new companies.

00:07:17.000 And Karen Levitt certainly did then point out the Maryland man story.

00:07:22.000 This is wrong from the get-go.

00:07:24.000 We have known that this man, Abrego Garcia, is not a quote-unquote Maryland man.

00:07:27.000 He is from El Salvador.

00:07:29.000 I'm not going to waste your time.

00:07:30.000 I'm going to show you the document literally right here.

00:07:33.000 This is the actual court document from 2019, which states, number one, he is not a citizen or national of the U.S., two, he's a native of El Salvador, three, he entered at an unknown place in an unknown date, and four, was not admitted or paroled by an immigration officer.

00:07:47.000 At a master calendar hearing, the respondent, through counsel, admitted the factual allegations contained in the NTA and conceded removability as charged.

00:07:55.000 I want to stress, admitted the factual allegations.

00:07:57.000 This is not a Maryland man.

00:07:59.000 These are lies that they are perpetuating.

00:08:02.000 So I was invited to come down to the White House, and I was asked if there was anyone we'd like to interview.

00:08:09.000 We did an interview with Secretary Kristi Noem, with, I believe the appropriate title is DAP.

00:08:15.000 Deputy Assistant to the President, I could be getting that wrong, Sebastian Gorka, as well as Secretary of Transportation Sean Duffy.

00:08:21.000 And we'll be rolling out those interviews.

00:08:24.000 There's a story to how we film it.

00:08:27.000 The computers are not simple like we do, where we have this straight, you record it live and you go.

00:08:32.000 They had to send us a link, so now we have the files and we're going to start putting them up tomorrow.

00:08:36.000 But I was asked at the last minute if I would like to take the new media seat, to which I said yes.

00:08:43.000 My question is not a softball.

00:08:45.000 Just because, let me explain this problem, okay?

00:08:50.000 To all the people right now, you know, I'm trending, they're all talking about it, some are happy, some are mad.

00:08:55.000 The corporate press lies, okay?

00:08:57.000 I just showed you this man admitted to being from El Salvador.

00:09:01.000 This is not in question.

00:09:02.000 He admitted to being removable.

00:09:03.000 He admitted to entering unlawfully.

00:09:05.000 He did get a withholding of deportation.

00:09:07.000 That's not being disputed.

00:09:09.000 Why is the media using the phrase Maryland man to refer to a guy from El Salvador who is only here illegally?

00:09:16.000 They are doing it because they are factual but not truthful.

00:09:19.000 It is a fact the man, for now, is illegally residing in Maryland.

00:09:24.000 But that does not make him a Maryland dad.

00:09:27.000 It makes him an illegal immigrant arrested in Maryland.

00:09:30.000 And if that's the narrative they went with, an illegal immigrant arrested in Maryland, Abrego Garcia, I wouldn't be having this conversation with all of you right now.

00:09:38.000 The point that I was bringing up to the press secretary was that the media in this room is largely composed of an incurious, uncurious group of people who do not investigate.

00:09:54.000 And they use each other as sources and say the same narrative.

00:09:58.000 Not a single one of them is concerned about the fact that they didn't actually pull the court documents and that they're falsely representing that this man is, quote, from Maryland.

00:10:06.000 And it is so egregious, in fact, that Hassan Piker, one of the biggest streamers on the left, did not know.

00:10:13.000 I'm not kidding.

00:10:14.000 I'll play the video for you.

00:10:15.000 He was absolutely unaware that Obrego Garcia was an illegal immigrant from El Salvador.

00:10:20.000 And if you wonder why liberals are shocked by the story, this is why people like Hassan Piker don't read the news.

00:10:26.000 He gets talking points from the corporate press who keep saying a Maryland man, Maryland man.

00:10:31.000 Hassan then genuinely believes this guy is just some American guy born and bred in Maryland who was deported.

00:10:37.000 Now, if I thought this guy was born and bred in America and deported to a seat to Seacott in El Salvador.

00:10:42.000 And so my question was, these news outlets are ragging on us.

00:10:52.000 And we are but one seat in this room.

00:10:54.000 When they said, Tim, would you like to take the new media seat?

00:10:57.000 I said, sure.

00:10:58.000 I'd spoken with Elad.

00:10:59.000 Elad said, I really think you should ask about these Chinese nationals that Riley Moore wants to remove from this country, ship their student visas. 1.00

00:11:08.000 Rep. Riley Moore has introduced this bill.

00:11:09.000 And I said, that's actually a really good question.

00:11:11.000 However, I have another question.

00:11:14.000 They've created this new media space.

00:11:16.000 We're just companies.

00:11:18.000 That's it.

00:11:18.000 Okay? The Daily Wire is a company.

00:11:20.000 Breitbart is a company.

00:11:22.000 War Room is a company.

00:11:23.000 We have large viewerships.

00:11:24.000 We reach a lot of people.

00:11:25.000 We have questions we want to ask.

00:11:28.000 Now, what offends me is that these journalists in the room, they march in lockstep on lies.

00:11:33.000 I could go through a big list for all of you, but I named only three for time.

00:11:37.000 The Very Fine People hoax, the Covington Smear, and the Maryland Man hoax.

00:11:41.000 But how about the Lab Leak hoax?

00:11:43.000 How about the Drinking Bleach hoax?

00:11:46.000 How many times are they going to all in unison lie about what's going on?

00:11:51.000 So, my frustration is, when they bring in but one chair, one chair for someone like me to sit in, the New York Times, Politico, numerous journalists from various outlets all begin disparaging us, as if what really matters to those people is that their sick club of lying sycophants pretend like they're speaking truth to power.

00:12:14.000 In which case, when I say these large, massive multimedia corporations are lying to the American people, it's a softball, which implies I'm supposed to be grilling Carolyn Levitt for some reason.

00:12:27.000 No, I'm seeking a comment from the press secretary on the fact that they have allowed all of this media in the room, who just lie all day every day, and there's one chair in this room for new media.

00:12:38.000 Who's doing something different?

00:12:40.000 Which is why I ended by asking if there was a plan or effort to expand access.

00:12:44.000 Now, she didn't answer it.

00:12:45.000 I don't fault her for that.

00:12:47.000 She did give her answer saying the media is pushing this Maryland man hoax.

00:12:52.000 That was the gist of that story.

00:12:53.000 And of course now, the media and the press are losing their mind.

00:12:57.000 And that's me speaking about, I don't know if...

00:13:00.000 If you guys, I guess, because I've essentially put myself in the news, have questions about what happened or what do you think?

00:13:05.000 I have one big question.

00:13:08.000 And it's the top of my mind.

00:13:11.000 After you said that, after the press conference was over, did you have any reporters come up to you and say, you're right, but I've got a job to do?

00:13:20.000 Or were they giving you side eyes and nasty looks?

00:13:23.000 So I'm sitting down and I can't really see much of the room.

00:13:28.000 They brought me in through the same – it's crazy.

00:13:32.000 The doors are these big, thick, like steel, and they slide open.

00:13:36.000 And I came through the same door as the press secretary, as Carolyn Levitt.

00:13:41.000 So when I walked in, the room was full.

00:13:42.000 I sat in a chair.

00:13:43.000 And when I walked out, I walked out to the same room.

00:13:46.000 So obviously their view is going to be the wife invites me in. 0.96

00:13:52.000 I come in with them.

00:13:53.000 I ask them this question that makes the press look bad, and then we all walk out.

00:13:57.000 No one told me what to say.

00:13:59.000 There was zero direction.

00:14:00.000 And I actually warned them I was seeking to disparage the press because I'm offended by their lies.

00:14:05.000 And they just chuckled and said, hey, look, just ask whatever you want, I suppose.

00:14:09.000 And I actually said, I'm considering asking just a very straightforward question, opening this professionally with this bill that Rep.

00:14:16.000 Bradley Moore has to strip the visas from Chinese nationals.

00:14:19.000 And they were like, we're not going to tell you what to do.

00:14:22.000 Just whatever matters.

00:14:23.000 And so I figured Elad's got this.

00:14:26.000 He's got the straightforward, serious questions.

00:14:28.000 I actually wanted to say a lot more, but I figured I'd stick to decorum.

00:14:31.000 Because what I was going to say is, to all the people in the room, I will never sit in this chair again if they just open up the seats in this room to other media companies that are at least trying to find the truth.

00:14:45.000 All of these journalists in there, all their outlets report the exact same things.

00:14:50.000 Now, they have brought, and I think around 20% have been from new media outlets, but they're all standing up.

00:14:56.000 Why is Mary Margaret from the Daily Wire standing off to the side when they're arguably getting more viewership on these issues than many of the people sitting in those chairs?

00:15:07.000 I keep thinking about the Michael Malice quote.

00:15:10.000 No matter how much you hate the corporate media, you don't hate them enough.

00:15:13.000 He's got so many good ones.

00:15:14.000 There's so many.

00:15:15.000 Because there's also factual but not truthful.

00:15:17.000 Correct. And that's exactly what they do.

00:15:19.000 And that's what they're doing now.

00:15:21.000 Yeah, so it was pretty wild.

00:15:24.000 The corridors you go through and the security you go through is obviously insane.

00:15:29.000 The rooms are very small.

00:15:31.000 And I gotta tell you, it's my first time actually having open access in the White House.

00:15:36.000 And it was...

00:15:37.000 It's a weird place.

00:15:38.000 There's a bowling alley.

00:15:40.000 A Truman bowling alley.

00:15:41.000 I played there.

00:15:42.000 Have you really?

00:15:43.000 Yeah, I actually broke it.

00:15:46.000 There was a group of us, like six of us, and we threw a couple of sets or frames.

00:15:54.000 Something happened and they had to shut it down.

00:15:56.000 So tell me what it's like when you're, because this is what I was experiencing, but I'd rather have you say it.

00:16:00.000 What is it like walking to that bowling alley?

00:16:02.000 Well, it's underneath the old executive office building right next door.

00:16:05.000 The White House is not just the building, the White House.

00:16:08.000 It's the eight acres that includes the old executive office building and then the South Lawn and everything.

00:16:14.000 And so to get there, you go down into the basement and it's underneath the old executive office building.

00:16:20.000 Describe the basement.

00:16:22.000 I can't even remember.

00:16:23.000 It just felt like a cave.

00:16:25.000 If you go into the tunnels underneath the Capitol office buildings, it's the same sort of thing.

00:16:32.000 It's where you want to go when a nuclear strike happens or something.

00:16:36.000 I'm 5'10".

00:16:37.000 If you're 5'11", you're not going to enjoy it.

00:16:39.000 There's pipes that are at my head.

00:16:42.000 The ground is like a floating grate.

00:16:45.000 And it was like this way to the vending machines.

00:16:47.000 And I felt like I was not supposed to be down there.

00:16:50.000 Because it's a weird, industrial, factory-looking tunnel.

00:16:53.000 And then there's this, like, step, and this door that looks like a closet, and it says, there's a little gold placard bowling alley.

00:17:00.000 And I was like, what the?

00:17:01.000 It was locked.

00:17:02.000 I couldn't get in.

00:17:02.000 I thought you were going to say it was powered by Vault-Tec.

00:17:05.000 Yeah, right.

00:17:06.000 Yeah, so I didn't have any...

00:17:09.000 The funny thing is, the only press that came up to me were actually fans.

00:17:13.000 I mean, there's a decent amount of people that are in there that are right-leading.

00:17:18.000 Or equally as concerned with the lies the media keeps pushing on these narratives.

00:17:22.000 And I got up and walked right out.

00:17:25.000 I didn't know what I was supposed to do.

00:17:26.000 So they were like, have a seat here.

00:17:28.000 And then I'm like, when they were leaving and they opened the side door again, I'm like, I guess I'd just go back the way I came.

00:17:33.000 Like walk out with them and everything.

00:17:35.000 But it was cool.

00:17:36.000 I mean, they'll let you know really quickly if you go the wrong way, I imagine.

00:17:38.000 Well, I'm actually pretty sure that if I didn't follow them, they would have just closed the door.

00:17:42.000 That makes sense as well.

00:17:44.000 Yeah. Well, I mean, the whole stick here, not stick, apologies, but IRL's calling it the media and calling it their lies for the last bunch of years, so I'm glad you went on the main stage in the freaking White House in front of all those scumbags, media folks, and called them out in front of their faces. 0.98

00:17:57.000 Yeah, I mean, look, the legacy media has been extremely critical of not just alternative media and podcasters, but of Tim personally. 0.79

00:18:09.000 There's nothing wrong with going into the...

00:18:11.000 Into the White House briefing room and rubbing their nose in it.

00:18:14.000 I mean, honestly, what's wrong with it?

00:18:16.000 They've written hit piece after hit piece after hit piece about, again, about Tim personally.

00:18:23.000 Timcast and the podcasting space and alternative media, they have lost badly, and there's nothing wrong with going in there and reminding them, you are not in control of this.

00:18:34.000 This is not your room.

00:18:36.000 This is a room paid for by the American people.

00:18:39.000 And so having access, people like Tim or whether it be The Daily Wire or whoever, having access for them is just as legitimate as ABC or NBC or MSNBC.

00:18:49.000 It's more legitimate.

00:18:50.000 And not just legitimate, but like necessary.

00:18:53.000 Yeah. Again, like the Daily Wire is getting substantially more traffic than many of the news outlets that are given seats.

00:19:02.000 And still very much this cabal, the White House, what is it, the press corps, the Correspondence Association or whatever, still has a lot of control in the space.

00:19:12.000 And I'll tell you what was really freaky, just as an aside, is, you know, I'm planning on asking this question.

00:19:19.000 And I had a variety of ways to frame it.

00:19:22.000 And the moment the briefing starts, Carolyn Levitt says, I'd like to give a round of applause to this photographer who's been here for 44 years.

00:19:29.000 And the whole room is clapping with smiles on their faces for this journalist.

00:19:32.000 And I was like, oh no.

00:19:35.000 I was like, it's this woman's retirement. 1.00

00:19:37.000 She's been here for 44 years.

00:19:39.000 I do respect that because it's the newer class of these woke millennial types that I'm much more provoked by, I would argue.

00:19:46.000 And then I'm like...

00:19:47.000 Well, time to rag on the media now after everyone just cheered for this woman. 1.00

00:19:51.000 And that actually got me pretty nervous.

00:19:54.000 At first, I was very arrogant.

00:19:56.000 Like, I sat down like, I am going to destroy.

00:19:57.000 And then they all started clapping and cheering this woman.

00:19:59.000 I was like, now I feel bad.

00:20:00.000 I was like, oh no.

00:20:02.000 Let me play this clip.

00:20:04.000 This is important.

00:20:05.000 This is Hassan Piker.

00:20:06.000 For those that are not familiar, this guy is one of the most prominent leftist streamers.

00:20:12.000 And he was shocked to see me in this chair.

00:20:15.000 But what this clip reveals is that he literally did not know that Abrego Garcia, the MS-13 gang member, a legal immigrant, was from El Salvador.

00:20:24.000 Listen to this.

00:20:25.000 Let me start from the beginning.

00:20:28.000 Is he not a Maryland man?

00:20:39.000 I'll have you believe, sir.

00:20:40.000 He's actually not from Maryland.

00:20:42.000 He's from D.C. He's not from Maryland.

00:20:44.000 He's from El Salvador.

00:20:46.000 And he thought the point I was making was nitpicking whether it was D.C. or Maryland as opposed to pointing out this guy illegally under the country as the court has already determined.

00:20:55.000 Is that what Beattie Boy is saying?

00:20:57.000 He is not a man!

00:20:58.000 He's not a man from Maryland! 0.97

00:20:59.000 Maryland is fake!

00:21:01.000 Russia Today correspondent Tim Pool.

00:21:03.000 I love the centrist liberal Tim Pool.

00:21:06.000 Hey guys, an upstress liberalism.

00:21:08.000 Wait, is he wearing a hoodie?

00:21:11.000 Under his, like, suit jacket?

00:21:13.000 Oh, gross.

00:21:14.000 It's literally just a single hoodie.

00:21:17.000 Look at this.

00:21:18.000 It's a true classic hoodie.

00:21:20.000 They're not very expensive. 0.92

00:21:22.000 Brother, suit jacket, hoodie, beanie combo is so gross, dude.

00:21:27.000 I thought this was a really good opportunity to break down a lot of the problems in the corporate press and alternative media.

00:21:35.000 Hassan doesn't even know what I'm wearing.

00:21:37.000 And he's speaking to millions.

00:21:41.000 Millions of people.

00:21:42.000 But the important thing is, I show you this once again, and I can't believe...

00:21:46.000 Okay, guys, I gotta tell you.

00:21:48.000 First there was a horse.

00:21:50.000 The horse died, and we started beating the dead horse.

00:21:53.000 This story is a dead horse being beaten over and over again.

00:21:55.000 We pulverized it into glue yesterday and cat food.

00:21:59.000 Now it is just probably ash and charcoal and maybe the teeth remaining, because if we keep...

00:22:04.000 I don't know how many times I can point this out.

00:22:06.000 He is not a citizen international of the U.S. He's a native of El Salvador.

00:22:09.000 This is the—can you pull this up?

00:22:11.000 This is the court document showing dude is from El Salvador.

00:22:15.000 But the reason I stress this again, the first thing I'll say is, for those that are watching the live show, you're like, Tim, you just told us this.

00:22:21.000 Yes, but this will be a segment specifically addressing Hassan.

00:22:25.000 When people like Hassan pull up these news stories and they march in lockdown, they genuinely believe, like, CNN's telling me the truth.

00:22:32.000 He goes, he's not from Maryland.

00:22:34.000 What's he from, D.C.?

00:22:35.000 It's like, no, my dude, he's from El Salvador.

00:22:38.000 But people like Hassan don't do any journalistic work.

00:22:42.000 They don't research.

00:22:42.000 They don't pull court documents.

00:22:44.000 So he actually thinks, and I feel bad for him because I understand his anger.

00:22:49.000 Hassan believes that Donald Trump accidentally arrested an American citizen from Maryland and deported him to El Salvador.

00:22:57.000 I mean, that would terrify me, too.

00:22:59.000 We've said on the show numerous times, American citizens should not be going to El Salvador.

00:23:02.000 But this is what the corporate press does.

00:23:05.000 The fascinating thing I believe about all this is that it reminds me of the defund the police thing, which is a portion of the left gets fixated on something and it takes over the entire left side of the aisle to the point where they look absolutely berserk and crazy.

00:23:26.000 And when you've got...

00:23:28.000 A senator and four congressmen going down to El Salvador to a prison to meet and shake hands and have margaritas with an MS-13 gang member.

00:23:40.000 You're not even crazy anymore. 1.00

00:23:42.000 You're like certifiably insane. 0.99

00:23:45.000 And so, like, if you want to pulverize the horse, kill it, turn it into glue, cat food, turn it into ash, I say we just keep doing it until they stop talking about it. 0.99

00:23:58.000 Because it's our issue.

00:24:00.000 We've won it.

00:24:00.000 And we're going to win tomorrow and the next day and the next day.

00:24:03.000 A little context about this guy.

00:24:04.000 He specifically said that there are baby settlers.

00:24:08.000 He takes the side of the mosque.

00:24:10.000 He specifically said that there are baby settlers.

00:24:13.000 And that he doesn't judge how people rise up.

00:24:18.000 He's literally had Houthi terrorists on his stream.

00:24:24.000 He's speaking to a translator who's translating to the Houthi terrorist.

00:24:29.000 Tell him that we believe that he's doing what Luffy would do.

00:24:34.000 Luffy's a character from One Piece, which is a manga.

00:24:37.000 And so he literally takes the side of terrorists.

00:24:42.000 He straight up has said that America deserved 9-11.

00:24:47.000 Came out and said it.

00:24:51.000 You better be careful.

00:24:52.000 Trump might deport him.

00:24:53.000 Yeah, I would love it.

00:24:54.000 He's an anchor baby.

00:24:55.000 He's an anchor baby.

00:24:57.000 But like he he actually kind of is emblematic of the left in that they can't help but take the side of the bad guys.

00:25:07.000 The left was on the side of the people that were firebombing cities across the country in 2020.

00:25:12.000 The vice president, the former vice president, Kamala Harris, was actually advertising a website to help pay for the legal fund for people that were arrested, not for protesting, but for actually rioting.

00:25:26.000 I forget the guy's name.

00:25:28.000 He was in...

00:25:30.000 He was the guy that was shot by the police because he was about to take off with a car full of kids.

00:25:36.000 He had a knife.

00:25:37.000 Jacob Blake.

00:25:39.000 He's the reason that Kenosha burned down.

00:25:42.000 The vice president went and took pictures with him.

00:25:45.000 The left continually sides with people that are not just...

00:25:51.000 On the left, but they literally side with criminals and the bad guys.

00:25:56.000 It's not a bug either.

00:25:58.000 Yes. It's a feature.

00:25:59.000 I mean, that's a feature of the system.

00:26:01.000 I agree.

00:26:02.000 But I also think there's a point to be made in that, you know, some of these guys just aren't smart enough to do the digging.

00:26:11.000 And, you know, obviously there's a lot of people who would rather just insult and rag on Hassan and take a low road.

00:26:19.000 Serge is raising his hand.

00:26:20.000 But I'm going to say this with sincerity.

00:26:23.000 I think the dude genuinely just believes too much fake stuff and doesn't know what's real.

00:26:28.000 And so, like, I'll say it again.

00:26:31.000 I mean, when the news initially broke about the administrative error...

00:26:35.000 My position was, okay, they deported an illegal immigrant. 0.65

00:26:38.000 There's an administrative error.

00:26:39.000 They shouldn't have done this.

00:26:40.000 And I get a bunch of people now taking that quote and sending it to me and saying, what's up, Tim?

00:26:45.000 Where are you at now?

00:26:45.000 I'm like, oh, well, they came out with the arrest documents showing it was MS-13.

00:26:49.000 They cited the Alien Enemies Act saying that he is part of a terrorist organization.

00:26:53.000 Here's the evidence.

00:26:54.000 Here's the image of his tattoos.

00:26:55.000 Here's the informant giving his rank.

00:26:57.000 Here's the arrest report showing him with known gang members.

00:27:01.000 Here's his wife trying to cover up his tattoos. 1.00

00:27:03.000 And he's a wife beater.

00:27:04.000 And I'm like, I see.

00:27:05.000 I see.

00:27:06.000 So what's the remedy then for the administrative error is a USCIS interview.

00:27:10.000 That's it.

00:27:11.000 Now, I did do an interview.

00:27:12.000 I had an interview with Secretary Noem, and we actually spoke for about half an hour.

00:27:17.000 But at least in this regard, she said, at this point, it's out of our jurisdiction.

00:27:22.000 He is not an American citizen.

00:27:23.000 There's no remedy for this.

00:27:25.000 He can have a USCIS interview if he finds his way back here somehow, but it's not going to happen.

00:27:30.000 There's no reality where that happens.

00:27:32.000 If he does come back, he will simply get his hearing and be deported immediately.

00:27:35.000 So they're arguing for this administrative tool.

00:27:39.000 We're at the point now where Senator Van Hollen is backed away saying, I don't care if he's deported.

00:27:43.000 If he came back, they'd say, okay, wait, before you enter the country, USCIS agent, how are things in El Salvador?

00:27:49.000 They've arrested all of the gang members.

00:27:51.000 Okay, bye.

00:27:51.000 Back in the plane.

00:27:52.000 Go home.

00:27:53.000 For Mr. Andy, your question of beating the—I have a question for you.

00:27:57.000 Yeah. The problem with the right, a lot of times, is we always follow the narratives of the left.

00:28:01.000 We let them tell us the stories, and Tim's been beating, we've been beating this dead horse for months, for weeks now.

00:28:08.000 Why can't we just stop and start talking about what we want to talk about and have them follow us instead of us follow them?

00:28:13.000 I think the chief reason is because the deck is stacked against us.

00:28:19.000 Because the corporate media is so large and funded so predominantly by corporate interests that it's tough to suffocate that noise and talk about what we want to.

00:28:32.000 I mean, gosh, Caroline Levitt would be happy to talk about what we want to talk about every day.

00:28:37.000 But when there's only one guy in the room who's...

00:28:40.000 Doesn't Donald Trump just tweet and set the narrative?

00:28:43.000 I feel like what you're saying is actually contrary to the reality.

00:28:46.000 It's a tug of war.

00:28:48.000 I would agree with you because we have talked about it before that I've said in the past we need to start telling them what the story is, and we've been increasingly doing it.

00:28:57.000 I think this election, the podcast presidency, was the inflection point where this is a tug-of-war.

00:29:02.000 So Signalgate versus Maryland Manhoax is a good example of this.

00:29:07.000 Well, actually, they ran face-first into that on accident.

00:29:11.000 But see how they're trying to shift back to Pete Hegseth?

00:29:15.000 It's a whole story.

00:29:16.000 Signalgate was a month ago.

00:29:17.000 Like, we're over this.

00:29:19.000 This news cycle has moved on.

00:29:20.000 But they initially tried to make us care about a circumstance not worth caring about.

00:29:27.000 Did you know that a journalist was accidentally given access to partial information related to strikes in Yemen?

00:29:33.000 No times, no targets, no locations, no weapons.

00:29:39.000 Vehicles, yes.

00:29:41.000 And I'm sorry, I should say partial times, but without location.

00:29:44.000 And by all means, you can criticize it.

00:29:46.000 But journalists get access to this information all the time.

00:29:49.000 So like, what's the story?

00:29:51.000 They desperately tried to make us care about that.

00:29:53.000 And we just walked away from it for the most part.

00:29:55.000 We did talk about it for sure.

00:29:57.000 So I would say this.

00:29:59.000 If you track the news cycle and look at the corporate press, they talked about it for about a week and a half longer than we did.

00:30:04.000 It was nuts how many panels they were doing on it.

00:30:07.000 It was kind of funny.

00:30:07.000 This has been...

00:30:09.000 Like I said, it's a feature, not a bug.

00:30:11.000 If you go all the way back to the French Revolution, you got Marat and the guys running the papers.

00:30:15.000 Once they realize, hey, we can turn on this outrage machine and rile up the Saint-Culot to go store in the Bastille or whatever, they've never turned it off.

00:30:23.000 And that's the lesson the left has learned that we're just starting to figure out, I think, on the right, where we can set the narrative if we have Trump in the White House tweeting about it, if we've got a few pointed media companies that

00:30:39.000 are...

00:30:39.000 Thoughtful about it.

00:30:41.000 And yeah, this was the inflection point in this election where I think we're starting to get the hang of it.

00:30:45.000 I think that's right.

00:30:46.000 I do want to just add a quick aside before we move on.

00:30:50.000 Harry Sisson tried coming after me.

00:30:53.000 He said, Tim Poole cried about President Zelensky not wearing a suit when he met with Trump.

00:30:57.000 But this is how Tim showed up to the White House today.

00:31:00.000 Zip up jacket and a beanie. 0.99

00:31:01.000 Maybe he shouldn't be such a hypocrite. 0.99

00:31:03.000 Did you meet Trump? 0.99

00:31:05.000 When I met Trump, I wore a suit.

00:31:06.000 Yeah. And I went to a very nice clothing store in West Palm Beach.

00:31:11.000 And they actually instructed me that the beanie was correct for the suit that I was wearing.

00:31:15.000 And I laughed and I said, let's go!

00:31:17.000 They explained to me that they actually do sell hats.

00:31:20.000 And I said, but this is not formal, right?

00:31:22.000 Would this be considered rude?

00:31:23.000 And they're like, no, no.

00:31:24.000 It's perfectly fine.

00:31:25.000 And I was like, really?

00:31:26.000 And they were like, yes, of course.

00:31:27.000 And they had similar hats, but I was like, I'm going to wear it.

00:31:32.000 Most of the talking points that you're hearing from the left, especially people like Hassan and like Harry Sisson, it's just a vehicle for the ad hominem.

00:31:39.000 Right? It's not about...

00:31:41.000 There's no substantive criticism.

00:31:42.000 It's just a vector of attack so that way they can insult Tim personally because they have no substance.

00:31:48.000 They can't say, oh, you're wrong about the media.

00:31:51.000 You're wrong about your question.

00:31:52.000 The premise of your question was wrong.

00:31:54.000 They can't do that. 1.00

00:31:55.000 So they just have to say, well, you know, look at how dumb his hat is. 1.00

00:31:58.000 Look at how dumb his clothes are. 1.00

00:31:59.000 Blah, blah, blah, blah. 1.00

00:32:00.000 It's literally got no substance.

00:32:02.000 That was my response.

00:32:03.000 Who wants to read it?

00:32:05.000 To be fair, it's a cool hoodie.

00:32:07.000 What I actually responded saying, I wasn't meeting with the president.

00:32:12.000 When I met with the president, I did wear a suit.

00:32:15.000 And this is, you know, I was asked before, it's like, hey, you're going, should I get a suit jacket or something?

00:32:21.000 I'm like, for the press briefing?

00:32:23.000 I was like, I'm not dressing up for these people.

00:32:25.000 And some were saying, yeah, but what about Carolyn Lever, disrespecting her?

00:32:27.000 And I'm like...

00:32:28.000 Calm down.

00:32:30.000 It's fake nonsense.

00:32:32.000 When Zelensky went to the World Economic Forum, he wore a suit.

00:32:35.000 That was before the war.

00:32:37.000 But regardless, now he shows up to Trump and he's dressed down.

00:32:40.000 And Trump didn't really care that much.

00:32:41.000 But he did get criticized for that.

00:32:43.000 But let's jump to this next story.

00:32:45.000 We have this tweet from Gunther Eagleman.

00:32:48.000 He says, watching David Hogg almost single-handedly fracture his party into two pieces is phenomenal.

00:32:54.000 He said that one of his main objectives is to unseat Democrats, but then refuses to name anyone.

00:32:58.000 Says he's willing to put up to $200 million to get it done.

00:33:01.000 James Carville and other Democrats are now calling for his removal as DNC vice chair.

00:33:06.000 Pure cinema right here.

00:33:08.000 They're imploding more than they already were.

00:33:10.000 I don't want to give this guy too much airtime.

00:33:13.000 I will play a little bit of this, but we have another clip of David Hogg getting absolutely annihilated because he has no idea what he's talking about, and he's destroying the Democratic Party.

00:33:23.000 So, right now, let me be clear.

00:33:25.000 This is not specifically when it comes to the candidates that we are targeting.

00:33:28.000 It's not just, oh, if you're over a certain age, you should not be doing this.

00:33:32.000 Unfortunately, there are people of all ages who are failing to meet this moment in different ways right now.

00:33:36.000 What we're looking at, it's not out with the old and in with the new.

00:33:39.000 It is out with the ineffective and in with the effective.

00:33:42.000 And part of what we're doing with this announcement is waiting to see who retires here and says, you know what?

00:33:47.000 It is time.

00:33:48.000 I'm not ready to meet this moment anymore.

00:33:50.000 And I know for a lot of our members that They will decide that, ultimately.

00:33:54.000 So the reason I wanted to highlight that is what he's basically saying is he wants all Democrats to self-deport.

00:33:59.000 He's basically saying, we're going to launch a massive campaign against you.

00:34:02.000 Why don't you retire?

00:34:04.000 I've got to be honest, that's actually the right thing to do.

00:34:07.000 What Donald Trump is doing, and this is something that Secretary Noem told me, is that getting the message out to illegal immigrants, leave now of your own volition, otherwise you will face penalties, it's going to increase self-deportation.

00:34:19.000 People are just going to leave, and that saves you money.

00:34:21.000 If David Hogg can convince incumbent Democrats to quit out of fear, retire now before it's too late, he's going to save himself a fat sack of cash.

00:34:29.000 But now we have this, where on ABC News, David Hogg, and he's one of four or three vice chairs of the DNC.

00:34:36.000 Is that his position?

00:34:36.000 Yeah. He gets absolutely obliterated in this clip.

00:34:40.000 Check this out.

00:34:41.000 Let me tee this up.

00:34:42.000 This is the future of the Democratic Party.

00:34:45.000 This is important.

00:34:45.000 They've got no message.

00:34:46.000 They've got no movement.

00:34:48.000 They've got no leader.

00:34:49.000 I mean, it doesn't get any worse than that.

00:34:51.000 I mean, you're defending Harvard.

00:34:52.000 You're traveling to El Salvador for MS-13 gang members.

00:34:56.000 But here's the point.

00:34:57.000 You're taking $20 million.

00:34:59.000 If I'm looking at someone, my vice chair at the RNC, taking $20 million for another effort, it's $20 million out of the DNC's pocket.

00:35:07.000 You can't be on the board of the Fishing and Forest Company and on Greenpeace at the same time.

00:35:13.000 There are places for the party accountable.

00:35:17.000 Let me push back against that.

00:35:20.000 This was not an MS-13 gang member, and you damn well know that.

00:35:23.000 He was not.

00:35:26.000 Please don't stop, David Hogg.

00:35:28.000 Please don't stop.

00:35:29.000 The administration admitted this was wrong.

00:35:32.000 In America, we have a process, we are a land of law and order.

00:35:37.000 We are a land of law and order.

00:35:38.000 And this administration is repeatedly showing time and time again, they do not care about what the Supreme Court says.

00:35:45.000 They do not care about the rule of law.

00:35:47.000 And you cannot defend sending people to another country.

00:35:50.000 So CNN just did a poll.

00:35:52.000 To another country where they don't have rights.

00:35:54.000 I'm going to pause real quick because David Hogg is yelling over this dude.

00:35:59.000 He said CNN released a poll that most Americans believe all illegal immigrants should be deported.

00:36:04.000 This is the issue with David Hogg as vice chair and why I would say He is burning down the DNC.

00:36:11.000 I have this.

00:36:12.000 This is the Prince George's County Police Department gang field interview sheet.

00:36:16.000 This is released by the DOJ.

00:36:18.000 This is the arrest report showing that Kilmar Armando Abrego Garcia was arrested with MS-13.

00:36:26.000 I just think it's fairly obvious that if you're wearing MS-13 gang clothes, that in and of itself doesn't really say much.

00:36:32.000 You're wearing a Bulls hat and a jersey.

00:36:34.000 However, if you're wearing their specific gang clothes and you're with them, Now we're going to start asking questions.

00:36:39.000 Because if you were not part of MS-13, you might get in trouble with these guys.

00:36:44.000 I genuinely wonder if people don't understand gang culture, but if you're in gang territory wearing the wrong colors, they will come up to you.

00:36:52.000 This is very, very common for people from Chicago.

00:36:55.000 I know I'm beating a dead horse on that one because I'm from there.

00:36:58.000 You'll be walking down the street, and if you're wearing black and gold, someone's going to stop and say, You Latin King?

00:37:04.000 Like, you're wearing the gang colors.

00:37:05.000 And it's like, bro, I'm just wearing gym shorts.

00:37:06.000 You don't even know.

00:37:07.000 And this is common.

00:37:09.000 So not only do we have evidence, okay?

00:37:12.000 Evidence. That when officers then interviewed Kilmar Armando Obrego Garcia during the interview, officers observed he was wearing a bulls hat and hoodie with rolls of money covering the eyes and ears and mouth, which is indicative of ver or, I don't know how to pronounce that, oy y calar, see no evil, hear no evil, say no evil, wearing the Chicago bulls hat,

00:37:28.000 represents their member in good standing with MS-13.

00:37:30.000 And then they interviewed an individual who said that he was a chequeo, right here, he had the rank of chequeo with the moniker of Chele.

00:37:39.000 And then, of course, here is the document I've shown 50 billion times already that asserts in the hearing for removal that he is a citizen of El Salvador.

00:37:51.000 So for David Hogg to then go on the show and say, you know damn well he was not...

00:37:55.000 I feel like these people can't save their own party for the life of him.

00:38:00.000 Well, I'll make a prediction.

00:38:02.000 I bet you're not going to see David Hogg on...

00:38:04.000 TV in the next couple of months.

00:38:07.000 As soon as that was over, I bet, you know, there's clearly a void at the top in the Democrat Party, but whether it's Gavin Newsom, who's trying so hard to not be a progressive anymore, even though he is, Rahm Emanuel,

00:38:23.000 who's going online or going on TV saying stop all the woke stuff, whether it's Obama, somebody's calling up David Hogg and saying you're not going to go on TV anymore.

00:38:34.000 Well, that's the question, right?

00:38:36.000 Yeah, I kind of—I don't agree.

00:38:39.000 We were talking about this yesterday.

00:38:41.000 When we're crafting the thumbnails for this show, we want to have—there's party leadership for prominent political stories.

00:38:49.000 If the story is about—you know, sometimes we won't use a political—if the story is really big, like it's Elon Musk.

00:38:55.000 You know, if Elon does a big thing and it's big in the news, the character in the thumbnail will be Elon.

00:39:01.000 There's no Democrat personality that represents the party at all.

00:39:03.000 If I'm wrong, it's because you're right that there is nobody at the top.

00:39:09.000 But what I can tell you is that there's a lot of money.

00:39:13.000 There's a lot of checks that will not be written to the DNC if that behavior continues.

00:39:19.000 And I think you are correct.

00:39:21.000 So I do believe there's a strong probability that you are correct in the entirety.

00:39:24.000 I think, however, you have split factions in the DNC right now.

00:39:29.000 Civil War, baby.

00:39:30.000 Internal Party Civil War.

00:39:32.000 With the Democrats, there's going to be the James Carville types.

00:39:35.000 He called them a little twerp.

00:39:36.000 Did you hear that?

00:39:37.000 And you think David Hogg's now going to listen to what he has to say?

00:39:41.000 Nope. And perhaps he was only called to tour because he wouldn't listen in the first place.

00:39:44.000 So there's going to be someone with a check for the Democratic Party and Hogg's going to say, you're not giving that check to me and you never were going to.

00:39:49.000 So I don't care what you think.

00:39:51.000 I'm going to say what I think.

00:39:52.000 This fracturing is going to...

00:39:54.000 I don't see how, at least in the near future, they emerge with a coherent party.

00:40:01.000 Well, right now, the Democrats don't know what they want to be.

00:40:03.000 They don't know if they want to be progressives or if they want to be closer to mainstream, roconic-style Democrats.

00:40:11.000 And also, if they decide to go with the progressives, the very progressives, which David Hogg is one of, they're not going to get any money.

00:40:17.000 They're not going to get donations.

00:40:18.000 They'll get small donations from the...

00:40:20.000 Average person that likes AOC, likes Bernie Sanders, and they might be able to get millions of dollars, but they're not going to get the big checks that go to PACs, which actually make a big difference.

00:40:31.000 Hillary Clinton spent a billion dollars to lose to Donald Trump.

00:40:34.000 Joe Biden and Kamala Harris spent a billion dollars to lose to Donald Trump.

00:40:39.000 Joe Biden spent a billion dollars when he beat Donald Trump.

00:40:43.000 That's the kind of money that it takes to win an election nowadays.

00:40:47.000 And they're just not...

00:40:48.000 And AOC and Bernie Sanders aren't going to get it because they will actually talk about things like taking away...

00:40:54.000 You're changing the corporate...

00:40:56.000 Or the tax rate on capital gains.

00:40:59.000 So your people that pay 15%, they're going to pay 25%.

00:41:03.000 They're not going to want to...

00:41:04.000 Give a donation to them.

00:41:06.000 If they're going to tax unrealized gains, you're going to have to sell your property, pay taxes.

00:41:10.000 These are the types of policies that AOC and Bernie like, and they're not going to get anyone to give them money.

00:41:15.000 But you guys are involved in this political landscape of fundraising and all that stuff.

00:41:20.000 Yeah. So I'm curious with your experience on this.

00:41:23.000 It's interesting because I don't see a reality in which the old guard Democrats begin to agree with the woke new upstarts.

00:41:31.000 So what happens to those?

00:41:32.000 Where do those donations go?

00:41:34.000 Do they just stop?

00:41:35.000 How does this play out?

00:41:39.000 Go ahead.

00:41:43.000 History doesn't repeat itself, but it rhymes, right?

00:41:45.000 So if you look back, we've gone through cycles of this in the past on the left and the right, but it's historically either somebody on the younger side on the left in that Rohana style picks up the mantle and runs with the money.

00:42:02.000 Or what's happened on the left more often is one of the older types sees an opportunity, adjust their politics, and try to take their money, their historic donors, and bring it with them and try to marry in the middle. 0.96

00:42:16.000 And that's kind of what Bernie Sanders shot for but missed.

00:42:20.000 And if Hillary Clinton probably would have knocked him off the edge, he might have been successful with that.

00:42:24.000 But that would be my suspicion.

00:42:27.000 I think political donors kind of fall in two camps.

00:42:30.000 And this works on both sides of the aisle.

00:42:33.000 There are the principal donors, and then there are the transactional donors.

00:42:38.000 And if the money is not moving where it needs to go in budgets, in federal budgets or state budgets, The transactional donors will stop.

00:42:50.000 And if you're talking about MS-13 illegal aliens or you're talking about transgender surgeries and stuff like that, and that prevents the money from moving in the budgets, the transactional money stops.

00:43:03.000 I know that's a little complicated, but that's how I see the donor community.

00:43:08.000 So are we optimistic then for the midterms, for the next four years?

00:43:14.000 Go ahead.

00:43:14.000 I'm thoroughly blackpilled on just the economic situation in our country.

00:43:21.000 I mean, we are going into a sovereign debt crisis.

00:43:24.000 And Trump is correctly trying to steer that titanic boat and turn it diametrically in the opposite direction.

00:43:32.000 But he's getting hammered by the reality of having 120% debt to GDP.

00:43:40.000 I do not know how we stop that train.

00:43:42.000 The biggest problem that the Republicans are going to face is the economy.

00:43:46.000 And the Republicans need to actually provide good results for the American people.

00:43:54.000 Because if they don't, the people that are going to come after them, the Democrats that will end up getting elected because the Americans don't like the Republicans because they didn't do...

00:44:03.000 Enough for them.

00:44:04.000 Didn't provide the results they wanted.

00:44:06.000 The people that come after the Republicans are very, very bad.

00:44:09.000 They're your AOCs.

00:44:10.000 They're your Bernies. 0.90

00:44:11.000 And those people will destroy the economy.

00:44:14.000 They will abs...

00:44:15.000 Because we have, like you said, 120% debt to GDP.

00:44:19.000 And if you...

00:44:20.000 Start implementing things like the Green New Deal and implementing things like Medicare for All with that kind of debt.

00:44:28.000 You will blow up the dollar, and that has ramifications that aren't just to the United States.

00:44:32.000 They're ramifications globally.

00:44:35.000 Those are the kind of things that start wars.

00:44:36.000 Well, but I would even go further and say we just need to stop the current spending.

00:44:42.000 And the people that are in the way that are literally blocking us from doing that are Senate Republicans.

00:44:48.000 Yeah, fair enough.

00:44:49.000 So the inflation rate in 1980 was 13%, and the Federal Reserve hiked interest rates to nearly 20%, and the economy officially entered into a recession.

00:45:00.000 The U.S. federal debt to GDP in 1980 was 34.56.

00:45:05.000 The current U.S. debt to GDP is 122.7.

00:45:12.000 So, we are not producing anything.

00:45:14.000 We're not going to be able to pay down the debt.

00:45:16.000 Probably why the Doge effort is so important, but I don't believe that Doge is moving quickly enough to get our spending down.

00:45:23.000 So you have the debt continuing to increase.

00:45:26.000 In fact, the deficit is still increasing.

00:45:29.000 So the difference, the deficit is how much more we're spending than we make, and the deficit is going up, meaning we're going to exponentially accrue debt faster and faster and faster.

00:45:39.000 And, you know, Ian, Likes to just say on this show, just default.

00:45:43.000 That's a war.

00:45:44.000 Just default.

00:45:45.000 That'll be a war. 0.90

00:45:46.000 I mean, it's World War III instantly overnight. 0.54

00:45:48.000 Well, I would argue that inflation is default.

00:45:51.000 Like, when you buy a $1,000 bond, you expect $1,000 back.

00:45:56.000 But because of inflation, you get less of it.

00:45:59.000 And so the crisis that we're having right now is that if the Fed cuts rates...

00:46:05.000 That means more money's in the system, which means higher inflation.

00:46:08.000 If they raise rates, that means interest expense that the government has to pay causes inflation.

00:46:14.000 There is no way out of this without inflation.

00:46:18.000 There's a way out of it.

00:46:19.000 We have to cut spending.

00:46:20.000 Right. I mean, that's the only way out.

00:46:22.000 But if you're as black-pilled as I am, there is no amount of spending that you can cut to get out of it. 0.64

00:46:28.000 And even if they cut spending on the things that actually do impact the deficit and the debt, Unfunded liabilities, your mandatory spending, which is, you know, your Medicare, Medicaid, those are the people that vote the most and that will not last because they're of the opinion that they paid in. 0.95

00:46:46.000 So even if you cut all the benefits to everybody 65 and over and said, we have to save the dollar, we have to save the country, they will vote your ass out the very next chance they get. 0.84

00:46:55.000 So it's really a situation where I'm very much in the same boat with you.

00:46:59.000 I don't know how to fix it.

00:47:00.000 I think Trump might have a solution.

00:47:02.000 We've got this story from the Post Millennial.

00:47:03.000 Trump admin reverses course on Biden's student debt relief.

00:47:07.000 Only 38 percent of borrowers are current on payments.

00:47:11.000 They have not collected on student loan debt for five years.

00:47:15.000 We've got a statement from the DOE.

00:47:17.000 This is amazing.

00:47:18.000 It says, quote, American taxpayers will no longer be forced to serve as collateral for irresponsible student loan policies, said U.S. Secretary of Education Linda McMahon.

00:47:28.000 The Biden administration misled borrowers.

00:47:30.000 The executive branch does not have the constitutional authority to wipe debt away, nor do the loan balances simply disappear.

00:47:37.000 That's the interesting one, because I've heard from people they logged into their accounts and the balance simply disappeared.

00:47:43.000 So what happens now?

00:47:45.000 Will it come back?

00:47:46.000 Hundreds of billions have already been transferred to taxpayers going forward.

00:47:49.000 The DOE, in conjunction with the Department of Treasury, will shepherd the student loan program responsibly and according to the law, which means helping borrowers return to repayment both for the sake of their own financial health and our nation's economic outlook.

00:48:02.000 They mention 42.7 million borrowers owe more than $1.6 trillion in student debt.

00:48:09.000 Only 38% of borrowers are in repayment and current on their student loans.

00:48:15.000 They say almost 1.9 million borrowers have been unable to even begin repayment because of a processing pause that was put in place by the previous administration.

00:48:22.000 Since August 2024, the department has not processed applications for enrollment in any repayment plan, such as income-based repayment, income-contingent repayment, or PAYE, P-A-Y-E.

00:48:32.000 The department is currently working with federal student loan servicers and anticipates processing to begin next month.

00:48:40.000 This is going to be interesting.

00:48:43.000 I'm curious what you guys think.

00:48:45.000 I'll tell you what I think.

00:48:48.000 Young people, younger millennials, or just millennials in general, with massive debt, who haven't had to pay them for five years, they didn't budget for this.

00:48:55.000 They are going to get a shock debt overnight that they thought is gone.

00:48:58.000 And if they do say, when they say, this debt doesn't disappear, if people log back in and all of a sudden the debt is there, or they get a collections bill in the mail saying, sorry, the Supreme Court said Biden could not do this, it is going to be people waking up with negative money.

00:49:15.000 They didn't budget for this.

00:49:17.000 The economy is going to get hurt.

00:49:18.000 Yeah, I work in, when I'm not in Statehouse, I work in real estate.

00:49:22.000 So primarily commercial real estate, but I do a little bit of residential.

00:49:25.000 And I can tell you, people our age, when they're waiting longer and longer to buy a house, in the last five years, we've seen a little bit of an uptick of millennials buying their first home because they weren't paying student loans.

00:49:40.000 And they were suspended, so the lenders could count on that.

00:49:44.000 Wow. Do you guys have any sense as to if, and this is totally hypothetical, and it's just...

00:49:50.000 Popped my head.

00:49:51.000 I have no idea if there's any substance to it.

00:49:53.000 But is it possible that banks have taken these loans and turned them into securities and have sold them like they did with the mortgage-backed securities in 2008?

00:50:08.000 I don't know.

00:50:09.000 But if they did, in the hopes that the government was going to pay these things off, because if they said, oh, Biden says that he's going to pay them off, and they say, well, we can securitize these.

00:50:18.000 In my experience, if anything can be securitized and financialized, they will.

00:50:23.000 I don't know if they can legally do that, but if they can, then they're going to try it.

00:50:27.000 Yeah, I mean, again, I have no sense as to if they did or not.

00:50:29.000 But if they did, if banks have done this, then this is a ticking time bomb.

00:50:35.000 Well, most of those same banks we're talking about, you know, the Big Five, they're already sitting on an insurmountable amount of commercial property debt.

00:50:45.000 They're just getting...

00:50:46.000 They're kicking the can down the road as long as possible.

00:50:49.000 If that's the case, then that might be the straw that breaks the appropriate back.

00:50:56.000 I mean, the telephone pole.

00:50:57.000 Or the telephone pole.

00:50:58.000 Yeah, I mean, more than a straw.

00:50:59.000 Yeah, I mean, I don't know.

00:51:01.000 Again, I don't know, but I just thought of that.

00:51:03.000 I was like, well, what if they securitized them?

00:51:05.000 What if they're like, oh, the government will take care of them, Joe Biden said.

00:51:08.000 So they're just like, hey.

00:51:09.000 Well, I know banks, private banks used to write student loans, and then Obama nationalized it.

00:51:17.000 And made it a strictly government enterprise.

00:51:21.000 And then there's Sally Mae, which may securitize the loans.

00:51:24.000 I'm not sure.

00:51:26.000 But they're kind of like Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

00:51:29.000 But all of this, when I read headlines like this, that Trump's going to reverse this, I think of two things.

00:51:36.000 One is, he's not going to lose any votes.

00:51:39.000 Not that he's running for re-election, but the Republican Party's not going to lose any votes on this because these are art history majors that are woke and liberal and protesting on campus.

00:51:50.000 And two is, hey, here's a great idea.

00:51:53.000 Let's learn about personal responsibility again.

00:51:56.000 Okay, so...

00:51:58.000 Brave AI says, yes, banks have securitized student loans.

00:52:01.000 The process involves bundling individual student loans into securities that can be sold to investors.

00:52:07.000 This allows banks to provide liquidity by offering more loans and diversifying their portfolios for investors.

00:52:13.000 The securitization process typically includes originating the loans, bundling them into a pool, transferring the pool to a trust, raiding the securities.

00:52:19.000 That's the exact same thing they did with mortgage-backed securities.

00:52:23.000 That's what mortgage-backed securities were.

00:52:24.000 They were backed by mortgages.

00:52:25.000 Now these securities are just backed by...

00:52:27.000 I mean...

00:52:44.000 Yeah, I mean, I was actually a stock trader before I got into the sleazy business of politics, but that was 20 years ago, so I don't remember.

00:52:52.000 But yeah, that begs the question, like Moody's and S&P, like how do they rate these securitized loans?

00:53:00.000 Do they rate them according to the degree?

00:53:03.000 Like art history is a minus C and a doctorate is...

00:53:08.000 You know they're all AAA.

00:53:10.000 Right. Because that's exactly what they did.

00:53:13.000 That's exactly what they did with the mortgage-backed securities and the aughts.

00:53:18.000 They were all AAA because they knew the government would step in.

00:53:21.000 And the credit rating companies, they were all in on it.

00:53:26.000 Because... Because George Bush had said we need to make sure that people can buy houses because the government literally had it backwards.

00:53:33.000 They said if you get a house that will make you a responsible person as opposed to have responsible people need houses.

00:53:40.000 It was buy a house that will make people pay their bills, that will make people be responsible.

00:53:46.000 There's a degree you can get from Harvard called folklore and mythology.

00:53:51.000 Can we just break this down in terms in business sense?

00:53:55.000 Okay. You go to a bank because you want to open a business.

00:53:58.000 And they say, what will your business do?

00:54:00.000 And you say, we're going to provide welding services to local construction companies and to B2C and B2B.

00:54:07.000 And they'll say, what's your projected revenue?

00:54:09.000 Well, there's X amount of people that require the services of a welder.

00:54:13.000 And they'll say, okay.

00:54:14.000 So, there's another way to look at it.

00:54:16.000 You go to a student loan service provider, whatever, servicers, and you say, I want to get a loan so I can learn to be a welder.

00:54:23.000 Why is that?

00:54:24.000 Well, there's...

00:54:25.000 X amount of openings for welders.

00:54:27.000 They generate X amount of revenue.

00:54:28.000 You give me this money, I will learn to be a welder, and then I will pay you back.

00:54:32.000 Makes sense.

00:54:33.000 Now take a look at folklore and mythology.

00:54:36.000 You're going to a bank and saying, I'm going to open a business.

00:54:38.000 What does your business do?

00:54:39.000 We learn about folklore and mythology.

00:54:41.000 Who wants that? 1.00

00:54:42.000 Literally nobody.

00:54:43.000 So how are you going to pay me back?

00:54:44.000 No idea.

00:54:45.000 We're going to give you $100,000 for this.

00:54:48.000 Deal. And they shake on it.

00:54:49.000 I know what a folklore and mythology degree will get you.

00:54:53.000 It qualifies you to be a professor.

00:54:55.000 A dungeon master?

00:54:56.000 No, a professor of folklore and mythology.

00:54:58.000 Indeed it does.

00:54:59.000 Maybe a journalist.

00:55:01.000 Yeah. Or maybe you can be a communist.

00:55:05.000 Well, I tell you, in South Carolina, which is a red state, one of the reasons that the Freedom Caucus Network exists is while the Democrats are trying to forgive student loans, in South Carolina we're subsidizing on the front end.

00:55:21.000 So they're getting student loans, yeah, that are Democrats are promising to forgive.

00:55:25.000 But we're spending $52 million or $57 million in this year's budget to subsidize all these same degrees on the state level.

00:55:35.000 No matter what it is, whether it's mythology or welding, the mythology ones actually probably get more subsidization.

00:55:42.000 That's ridiculous. 0.81

00:55:43.000 This is in a red state. 0.82

00:55:44.000 The education secretary said, Tim, that hundreds of billions have already been transferred to taxpayers.

00:55:49.000 Right. People got off.

00:55:50.000 So those lucky folks got off where the rest of the folks are going to have to pay it back.

00:55:53.000 I think Ian said that, right?

00:55:55.000 He said he woke up one day and he looked and his account was empty. 0.83

00:55:58.000 Son of a gun.

00:55:59.000 He didn't owe that much, but it was, you know, like 10 grand or something, I think.

00:56:02.000 I can't remember what he said.

00:56:03.000 But, gone.

00:56:05.000 I don't know.

00:56:06.000 I mean, the Supreme Court said you can't do that.

00:56:09.000 So, just because...

00:56:10.000 It's going to be interesting.

00:56:11.000 What if Trump just says, no, bring it back.

00:56:12.000 Reverse it?

00:56:13.000 Yeah, why not?

00:56:15.000 Your debt never went away.

00:56:16.000 They said that the debt can't be simply erased.

00:56:20.000 So what happens if he just says, we have the ledger, we'll just click yes.

00:56:23.000 And then it's back.

00:56:25.000 You can't zero it out.

00:56:26.000 Or as quickly as they zero it out, they just go to system restore on the computer.

00:56:31.000 Everybody's debt comes right back.

00:56:33.000 They can do whatever they want for the most part.

00:56:35.000 It's pretty wild when you see people like David Hogg screaming like, they don't care about the rule of law.

00:56:38.000 And it's like, bro, Joe Biden ignored the court like every day.

00:56:42.000 And then tried decreeing a constitutional amendment.

00:56:45.000 Literally on his way out, he's like, 20th Amendment is now confirmed!

00:56:49.000 It's like, yeah, Joe, you can't do that.

00:56:51.000 It's the same party of mostly peaceful protests.

00:56:53.000 I mean, that's the, say, in your law and order party while the buildings are on fire behind you.

00:56:58.000 We do love our very peaceful protests.

00:57:02.000 But we do have another story, which is, welcome to the Nightmare Scenario, my friends.

00:57:06.000 We've got this tweet from Andrew Falchuk on Axe.

00:57:11.000 And he points out the third most viewed video on all of YouTube this week is an AI-generated short of a pug that saves a baby from a plane crash, and then they try surviving on an island.

00:57:21.000 I will play some of this for you now.

00:57:25.000 There you go.

00:57:30.000 Make it bigger.

00:57:31.000 There we go.

00:57:32.000 The baby had a parachute, by the way, and the plane explodes.

00:57:35.000 If you've got parachutes, that's the right move.

00:57:41.000 Good dog.

00:57:42.000 The pug then saves the baby.

00:57:45.000 Yep. This is creepy.

00:57:52.000 The dog is now securing a coconut.

00:57:58.000 Make a bottle for the baby.

00:58:01.000 Oh, he's making fish in the coconut.

00:58:03.000 Look at that.

00:58:08.000 SOS. The baby's gotten bigger, and his hair color changed.

00:58:14.000 Black off.

00:58:16.000 Yeah, right?

00:58:19.000 Why do they have guns?

00:58:22.000 The baby's been saved!

00:58:24.000 So, this video I find to be creepy, but not nearly as creepy as it gets.

00:58:29.000 That's the number three video on all of YouTube.

00:58:31.000 Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Final Galaxy.

00:58:34.000 This is another one of these AI slop.

00:58:37.000 This is Elsagate.

00:58:39.000 If you don't know what Elsagate is...

00:58:41.000 Welcome to the nightmare.

00:58:43.000 About eight years ago, there were a series of videos on YouTube that were going massively viral.

00:58:48.000 It was Spider-Man, Joker, and Elsa running around with no speaking, and they were engaging in gags.

00:58:55.000 These gags became increasingly more and more deranged.

00:58:58.000 At first, it was just the Joker kidnapping Elsa and Spider-Man saving the day.

00:59:02.000 But these videos are getting hundreds of millions of views.

00:59:05.000 Eventually, they started turning into creepy things, like Elsa was pregnant.

00:59:09.000 And there would be a woman wearing a pregnant belly, and the Joker would have a syringe, and he'd be trying to stick her with it, a big plastic fake one.

00:59:15.000 Getting weirder and weirder.

00:59:17.000 Eventually, you ended up with the Finger Family songs, which is very much what we are seeing now with this story.

00:59:23.000 Take a look at this, the top two videos.

00:59:27.000 168 million views, and it's a child in a Spider-Man costume running from flying hot dogs.

00:59:33.000 The next one is Spider-Man, surrounded by hot dogs.

00:59:37.000 There's Spider-Man fighting a sumo wrestler.

00:59:39.000 There's Spider-Man with a gun pointed at the Joker.

00:59:43.000 Here's a creepy one of Spicy Pepper Spider-Man eating a bunch of spicy peppers. 0.87

00:59:48.000 Kicking a child.

00:59:49.000 Spider-Man with a child. 1.00

00:59:50.000 This is AI generic garbage garbled nonsense. 0.98

00:59:54.000 Now, you might look at this and say like, okay, well, you know, in this one it's Spider-Man fighting a sumo wrestler. 0.98

00:59:58.000 What's bad with that?

01:00:00.000 It is babies watching these videos.

01:00:02.000 It is likely babies.

01:00:04.000 And children.

01:00:05.000 And the reason why they have so many views, what we saw with Elsagate, this is exactly the same thing.

01:00:11.000 They use keywords like Joker, Spider-Man.

01:00:15.000 They've got Supergirl, apparently. 1.00

01:00:18.000 Haircut and styling.

01:00:20.000 It is literally just Iron Man.

01:00:22.000 They are targeting keywords that get a lot of traffic on YouTube so that the video will autoplay for your baby.

01:00:28.000 When you put your tablet in front of the baby and press play and walk away, this is what your baby starts seeing.

01:00:34.000 These deranged and unhinged videos, it is going to fry their brains and socially stunt them and make them mentally unwell in the future. 0.91

01:00:44.000 It is incoherent nonsense videos. 0.98

01:00:48.000 And they're getting hundreds of millions of views.

01:00:50.000 That video with the pug, that is a nightmare video.

01:00:54.000 To be fair, a pug wrestling a baby isn't nearly as bad as the Joker forcing a hot dog in Spider-Man's mouth.

01:01:00.000 But they're still strange.

01:01:04.000 Incoherent, asocial videos that are going to fry children's brains.

01:01:07.000 And it's back, baby.

01:01:08.000 There was a channel.

01:01:10.000 Let me see if I can find this story.

01:01:11.000 This is nuts.

01:01:13.000 A.I. Trump YouTube channel that got some coverage.

01:01:18.000 Yeah, here we go.

01:01:19.000 We'll pull this one up.

01:01:21.000 It's not just the garbled nonsense. 0.92

01:01:22.000 It's this. 0.93

01:01:22.000 Look at this. 0.93

01:01:23.000 A.I. Slop Farms are churning out fake, heartwarming videos about Trump figures.

01:01:27.000 And look at this.

01:01:28.000 It's Carolyn Leavitt.

01:01:29.000 And she's on a plane like, what is this?

01:01:32.000 They apparently deleted the channel.

01:01:34.000 But there were videos, one was described as, they used that AI voice, that sounds like this, if you've ever heard it.

01:01:42.000 And a little girl, it's like, a little girl approached Donald Trump and asked him, Mr. President, will you save the starving people?

01:01:49.000 And the president said, and then it shows like Trump and he's looking at the child.

01:01:53.000 Super creepy AI nightmare scenario. 0.93

01:01:55.000 Welcome to hell.

01:01:56.000 Is this Final Galaxy TV?

01:01:58.000 Because it says this channel is not made for kids.

01:02:00.000 I'm trying to look it up.

01:02:01.000 Final Galaxy?

01:02:02.000 Yeah, Dash TV.

01:02:03.000 And it's more.

01:02:04.000 It says it's not made for children.

01:02:05.000 So I don't know if it's marked off.

01:02:07.000 Yeah, and I'm pretty sure they do that.

01:02:09.000 Just to lie to us?

01:02:11.000 Or just so that they could...

01:02:12.000 They do that because they'll get banned for this.

01:02:14.000 Okay. And, I mean, look at the description.

01:02:16.000 All videos are made by, created by Final Galaxy.

01:02:18.000 All videos contain materials protected by fair use guidelines.

01:02:22.000 Ages 13 and up.

01:02:24.000 Indeed. So a 13-year-old can see that.

01:02:26.000 I've got a 12-year-old girl, and she will look at this stuff and ask me if it's real.

01:02:31.000 A 7-year-old still gets this.

01:02:33.000 Yeah. They're putting 13 and up only because they know it's bannable, because YouTube already nuked all this stuff during the first Elsagate.

01:02:39.000 Gotcha. Disney's pretty infamous for having pretty litigious...

01:02:44.000 Yep. Where's the DCMA attorney?

01:02:47.000 I don't see how this is fair use.

01:02:50.000 I mean, there's a certain degree where you can argue transformative or satirical or something, or commentary.

01:02:58.000 Maybe one or two of these might fall into the realm of, like, we're satirizing it, but they're literally just using the IP to generate hundreds of millions of views.

01:03:07.000 It is, and this is just one channel.

01:03:10.000 I think I've actually got this.

01:03:12.000 Here, take a look at this.

01:03:14.000 This is ViewStats.com and GTA V, where is my green bed?

01:03:22.000 In 21 hours, it has 19,614,546 views.

01:03:29.000 Enjoy the video.

01:03:35.000 That's it.

01:03:37.000 Good God.

01:03:41.000 And this channel's got 3.2 million subscribers?

01:03:44.000 What is this channel even?

01:03:46.000 Look at these shorts.

01:03:49.000 Look at this.

01:03:50.000 The latest one has 19...

01:03:52.000 Oh, that's 19 million views from yesterday.

01:03:54.000 Where is my shower towel squid game 53 million views?

01:03:58.000 Gross. Hey!

01:04:02.000 Aw, thank you!

01:04:04.000 That's all?

01:04:06.000 And it gets 53 million?

01:04:09.000 Look at the title of the video.

01:04:11.000 GTA 5, Where Is My Pillow, Squid Game, Girl, Doll, Part.

01:04:14.000 The goal is just to exploit the algorithm to get views, and it's working.

01:04:20.000 And this is...

01:04:21.000 Look at this.

01:04:22.000 No, it's Where Is My Shower, Towel, Squid Game.

01:04:24.000 This one is GTA, Where Is My Pillow, Squid Game, next to it.

01:04:27.000 Gotcha. Same one.

01:04:28.000 GTA 5, Who Owns This Bed, Squid Game.

01:04:31.000 So he's...

01:04:31.000 This is a...

01:04:32.000 This is really interesting.

01:04:34.000 And then YouTube cuts checks to these things because they get the views, right?

01:04:38.000 Hundreds of millions like that?

01:04:40.000 Well, I'll do some quick math.

01:04:42.000 For 53 million views in a short, it's probably going to be $500, $600.

01:04:49.000 For that one single?

01:04:51.000 For that one single.

01:04:52.000 Yeah, and you'd think they'd get way more with 53 million.

01:04:55.000 That's actually...

01:04:56.000 It's shorts.

01:04:57.000 They run one commercial.

01:04:59.000 Okay. What's his most popular?

01:05:01.000 See how he opens every video with GTA 5?

01:05:04.000 That's manipulating the algorithm.

01:05:05.000 That's a bannable offense.

01:05:07.000 And so what he's doing is, every video is titled GTA 5, title, followed by Squid Game.

01:05:12.000 Squid Game, girl, doll, part.

01:05:14.000 That's the algorithmic manipulation.

01:05:16.000 Isn't that crazy?

01:05:18.000 I mean, bravo to them for figuring out how to manipulate the algorithm like that, but it's messed up because this is going to fry the kids' brains.

01:05:25.000 But the return on investment, if you think about it, is creating that one five-second clip.

01:05:31.000 I don't know.

01:05:32.000 Ten bucks of your time to put that together?

01:05:34.000 Because it's the marginal cost of doing that.

01:05:37.000 Not even.

01:05:38.000 Yeah. He's probably got a program that...

01:05:39.000 He just types in AI.

01:05:41.000 Yeah. He just opens up an AI video generator and says, make this video.

01:05:44.000 Enter. One dollar.

01:05:45.000 Upload. 50 cents.

01:05:47.000 Yep. And then you get 500 in return.

01:05:49.000 There's a...

01:05:50.000 The top video might be...

01:05:52.000 They're all shorts, by the way.

01:05:54.000 Here's the top video for the past day.

01:05:56.000 Hello? Hello?

01:06:02.000 Geez. It's all brain rot.

01:06:05.000 It's brain rot.

01:06:06.000 And YouTube is intentionally...

01:06:08.000 Look at this.

01:06:09.000 All of the top YouTube videos are shorts.

01:06:11.000 They're all...

01:06:12.000 Except for this one.

01:06:12.000 Raid 2 Money.

01:06:13.000 9 million and 12 hours from T-Series.

01:06:15.000 But T-Series is massive.

01:06:16.000 They're like Indian, I think, right?

01:06:18.000 Yeah. YouTube is just...

01:06:20.000 You know, I'll be honest.

01:06:21.000 I'll tell you what I think.

01:06:23.000 I think that the push towards TikTok-style shorts on all these platforms is intending to end shows like this.

01:06:31.000 You can't have a Donald Trump presidency if you eliminate the ability for the people to speak.

01:06:36.000 And so they are siphoning revenue away from platforms like this and then moving everything over to dead formats like shorts.

01:06:44.000 It's a rebellion.

01:06:45.000 So instead of listening to this show, people are just doom-scrolling through.

01:06:50.000 And they're watching that.

01:06:52.000 Just weird giggle noises.

01:06:54.000 The worst thing is it's children that are doing it.

01:06:56.000 I can attest to that.

01:06:57.000 I taught high school for three years, and I would catch students watching this kind of stuff, and I just could not comprehend the interest.

01:07:04.000 Like, why?

01:07:05.000 They had no idea.

01:07:06.000 It's just...

01:07:07.000 It's that dopamine squirt that just...

01:07:10.000 Oh, that's interesting.

01:07:11.000 I want to see another one.

01:07:12.000 Oh, dopamine squirt.

01:07:14.000 It's interesting how we...

01:07:16.000 Kids used to do drugs and smoke.

01:07:18.000 They used to drink and it was like, whatever.

01:07:21.000 Children had cigarettes way a long time ago.

01:07:23.000 And then at some point we were like, you know, this is actually melting their brains and destroying their bodies.

01:07:26.000 Let's stop this.

01:07:27.000 We haven't yet figured out we need those restrictions.

01:07:31.000 I think YouTube should be, I think, it's never going to happen, to be honest.

01:07:35.000 Our Congress is too dysfunctional.

01:07:37.000 So perhaps the fall of Rome occurs when your lawmakers can't defend themselves from whatever this is.

01:07:46.000 Reasonably, I think Congress would say to YouTube, Banned.

01:07:49.000 AI slop and slop content in general are banned, even if it's human-made.

01:07:54.000 A four-second video of people giggling and eating carrots is like, nope!

01:07:57.000 Can't do it.

01:07:59.000 So we made a whole new division, a whole new department, or a transfer department?

01:08:02.000 I know I'm not trying to expand, Phil.

01:08:04.000 I'm just throwing this out there.

01:08:06.000 I guess you can't because it's a 1A violation.

01:08:08.000 Yeah, that's certainly unconstitutional, but I don't think that's something government can handle.

01:08:14.000 That's a societal problem. 0.94

01:08:16.000 Well... We, the government handled drugs.

01:08:19.000 Have they?

01:08:20.000 Yeah, they have.

01:08:22.000 We used to put cocaine in our Coca-Cola.

01:08:25.000 Now cocaine use, I mean, so this is a really good argument that Seamus Coughlin brings up when it comes to abortion. 0.98

01:08:30.000 The liberals always say that if you ban abortion, then it's a coat hanger in the alley, and Seamus responded with, okay, so you're saying 99% of abortions will be gone?

01:08:39.000 Deal. Yeah.

01:08:40.000 Like, your argument is overwhelmingly abortions are stopped.

01:08:44.000 Certainly there's problems with the war on drugs and how they've handled it in the past 20 years.

01:08:49.000 But societally, through laws, regulation, we got rid of cocaine and Coca-Cola.

01:08:55.000 And that was mostly on the state level rather than the federal.

01:08:57.000 Indeed. But I do believe you're largely correct.

01:09:00.000 That's a societal problem. 0.94

01:09:01.000 And I don't know how you solve for that.

01:09:04.000 Because, look, man, how many parents are aware that this is happening to their children and are going to be able to adapt quickly enough to stop it from frying their kids' brains?

01:09:13.000 Not to digress, but have you guys discussed the fourth turning on this show before?

01:09:19.000 Ad nauseum.

01:09:20.000 Yeah. Like, we're there.

01:09:21.000 And the fourth turning is all sorts of things, right?

01:09:24.000 Political instability, debasement of currency, civil unrest, and the breakdown of the family.

01:09:31.000 Indeed. And the only way to get through it is to go through the crisis, and then when we come out of it, we're going to be a lot better, but...

01:09:40.000 And I don't know that I truly believe the fourth turning, but it seems like we're heading there.

01:09:46.000 I don't see why this would be the one time it breaks.

01:09:50.000 Right. I mean, so they say, for those that are not familiar, Strauss have generational theory.

01:09:56.000 They call it four seasons, and the easiest way to explain it is, what happened 80 years ago?

01:10:03.000 World War II.

01:10:04.000 Eight years before that.

01:10:05.000 Civil War.

01:10:05.000 Eight years before that.

01:10:06.000 Revolution. Exactly.

01:10:07.000 And they say that actually there's more.

01:10:09.000 We tend to just not talk about what happened eight years before.

01:10:11.000 War of the Roses.

01:10:12.000 Right. And they explain it's basically that a generation goes through war and crisis.

01:10:19.000 They're hardened.

01:10:20.000 They struggle.

01:10:20.000 They survive.

01:10:21.000 They have healthy children.

01:10:23.000 Those children understand the lessons from their grandparents.

01:10:25.000 They have kids.

01:10:26.000 The grandkids grew up in a...

01:10:29.000 Flourishing society from the hard work of their grandparents, but their parents largely didn't understand.

01:10:33.000 And then the next generation is totally detached, angry, dejected, has no idea what's going on, and chaotic, and then it breaks again.

01:10:40.000 And that's where we are.

01:10:41.000 And I think it's true.

01:10:44.000 I do too.

01:10:45.000 Yeah. That's where the black pill comes from.

01:10:48.000 It is.

01:10:48.000 I take a black pill every day.

01:10:51.000 But, you know, this is what I don't like about the black pill.

01:10:55.000 Just because we can predict that a storm is going to happen...

01:10:58.000 Doesn't mean it's like, I guess it's done and we lay down.

01:11:01.000 Imagine if you're outside and they're like, uh-oh, a tornado's coming.

01:11:04.000 It's like, well, I guess I die.

01:11:05.000 It's like, what are you talking about?

01:11:06.000 Get in the cellar.

01:11:07.000 Do something to prepare for this.

01:11:09.000 And then when the storm passes, you get to work.

01:11:11.000 What I genuinely don't understand about the mentality of so many millennials, and it's a sliding scale, millennials have it bad.

01:11:20.000 They don't, the work makes them feel pain.

01:11:24.000 They hate work.

01:11:25.000 That I cannot understand.

01:11:27.000 And I feel like you'll see this tendency between liberals and conservatives, where conservatives, I believe, more likely enjoy work and liberals more likely hate work.

01:11:35.000 And that's why you get communists.

01:11:37.000 They don't want to do anything.

01:11:39.000 Conservatives, maybe it's because of, maybe there's a correlation between living in urban and rural environments and why conservatives tend to be in more rural areas.

01:11:45.000 Maybe you had to chop your own wood and tend to your own animals.

01:11:48.000 Be responsible for yourself.

01:11:50.000 You lived in a city and you had delivery service do it for you.

01:11:53.000 Or you had welfare checks or something.

01:11:54.000 I don't know.

01:11:56.000 I mean, look, it's not a good situation.

01:12:00.000 We were just talking about the interest rate and the bind that essentially the Federal Reserve and the government are in, trying to fix the problem, but we've allowed it to get so out of control.

01:12:12.000 That I'm not sure that there is a way out that isn't defaulting on the debt or something that destroys the dollar, trying to hyperinflate the dollar or something.

01:12:21.000 Okay, let's entertain defaulting on the dollar because I don't think people realize how apocalyptic that means.

01:12:25.000 It means the global financial system crashes worse than we've ever seen.

01:12:28.000 The first question I have for you guys is, if that does happen, your access to what is largely viewed as routine consumer goods is gone.

01:12:41.000 What is, and I love this question, the hardest to source, cheap, cheap, and most important consumer item you would want to have if the global economic chain collapsed?

01:12:55.000 I mean, look, it's going to be things like water or...

01:13:00.000 Disagree. What do you think?

01:13:01.000 Well, I got a well.

01:13:02.000 I can pump water.

01:13:03.000 Okay, so, well, I have a well.

01:13:05.000 I have a well as well.

01:13:06.000 Indeed. So that's not hard to source.

01:13:08.000 It's actually quite easy.

01:13:09.000 It depends on...

01:13:10.000 Okay, so not for...

01:13:11.000 If you're in a city...

01:13:12.000 Yes. But so...

01:13:15.000 What I mean is...

01:13:16.000 Who are you talking about then?

01:13:18.000 I mean, us.

01:13:19.000 Literally, these gentlemen in front of me.

01:13:22.000 It's... I have my answer, and I think a lot of people who have seen this show know what the answer that I think is.

01:13:26.000 But something that you can go to the store right now and buy without a thought, that once the economic chain collapses, you ain't getting.

01:13:33.000 And it's extremely useful.

01:13:35.000 Oh, yeah.

01:13:36.000 I know what this is.

01:13:37.000 Never mind.

01:13:37.000 I don't know.

01:13:38.000 I mean, I'm thinking of your question differently, which is if...

01:13:43.000 What do you want to buy five boxes of right now?

01:13:46.000 If you knew...

01:13:48.000 Protein. That is a good one.

01:13:51.000 I don't think it's...

01:13:52.000 Protein and water.

01:13:54.000 So, emergency food is a very, very good idea if you thought the collapse was coming.

01:14:02.000 But right.

01:14:03.000 But I don't.

01:14:04.000 But food's not, I would say for you guys, particularly hard to source.

01:14:08.000 I think on average, conservatives skew towards understanding how to grow their own food.

01:14:14.000 I'm not saying they're all farmers and they're all going to master it much more likely where they live because they tend to be in rural areas.

01:14:21.000 And so they're going to have more sparsely populated.

01:14:24.000 I I don't believe food is the hardest thing to source.

01:14:28.000 Ammo? Ammo is probably one of the best answers.

01:14:32.000 And that's probably up there at number one.

01:14:35.000 My second choice, or rivaling first, is antiseptics.

01:14:38.000 Yeah. Stub your toe on a rock, get sepsis, and die. 0.96

01:14:41.000 Or splash a little alcohol.

01:14:42.000 And it may be, it's not mouthwash.

01:14:44.000 It might just be whiskey.

01:14:45.000 My cousins are pretty good at banking that.

01:14:48.000 I'm those of South Carolina.

01:14:50.000 Themselves. Grow potatoes.

01:14:52.000 Yeah, potatoes, corn.

01:14:54.000 I'm not sure if Neosporin has an expiration date.

01:14:56.000 I mean, it's essentially some kind of antiseptic that's suspended in petroleum jelly.

01:15:01.000 You know, that's a good way to take care of minor injuries, the kind of stuff that Tim's talking about.

01:15:06.000 Ammo, obviously, is really good.

01:15:09.000 You should, especially if you're a regular viewer of this show, you should have firearms, ammo, food, access to water, if not actually having water on hand, stuff to put water in that isn't plastic bottles, etc.,

01:15:24.000 like that.

01:15:25.000 But I don't think they're going to default.

01:15:27.000 I think they're going to inflate their way out.

01:15:29.000 Oh, yeah.

01:15:30.000 They're literally just going to start printing money, and they're going to use that to buy bonds and put them in the Federal Reserve.

01:15:37.000 And interest rates are then...

01:15:39.000 So then the value of all your money goes away.

01:15:42.000 Correct. But the stock market will rally.

01:15:45.000 It's still going to send massive repercussions throughout the whole global financial system, and that still likely will turn into some kind of conflict.

01:15:55.000 The only thing that's saved us so far is the fact that...

01:15:59.000 The rest of the world is worse.

01:16:00.000 Correct. I mean, the fiat dollar is bad, but every other currency is worse.

01:16:06.000 Indeed. But I want to white pill you guys. 0.96

01:16:08.000 We have this story that I think it was actually Libby who pulled it up early in the morning. 0.59

01:16:12.000 Catholic Herald says Catholics set to exceed Anglicans for first time since Reformation due to younger churchgoers.

01:16:18.000 I've got to be honest.

01:16:19.000 I'm not super versed on this dispute or whatever from Catholics and Anglicans.

01:16:24.000 But we do have another story, and it's from the Wall Street Journal.

01:16:27.000 As Catholic Church enters a new era, conservative U.S. members push it right. 0.94

01:16:30.000 The conservative wing is reviving old practices and growing more assertive in the battle for the future of the church and the nation.

01:16:35.000 These stories are part of a growing trend of younger people becoming Christian.

01:16:40.000 And I think we had another story here, which is in line with this.

01:16:45.000 And it is, new research, belief in Jesus rises fueled by younger adults.

01:16:51.000 Something is happening.

01:16:52.000 And we can see this.

01:16:54.000 This graph is actually very interesting.

01:16:57.000 Percent of U.S. adults who say, quote, I've made a personal commitment to follow Jesus that is still important in my life today.

01:17:03.000 And in 2008, 77% said yes.

01:17:08.000 And it has gone down quite a bit.

01:17:11.000 However, since around the pandemic, it's gone from 54% to 66%.

01:17:15.000 And I'm even seeing in my own personal life, friends of mine are, people that I know, I should say, have converted.

01:17:22.000 There's some...

01:17:23.000 There's a prominent professional skateboarder who is largely viewed as kind of a degenerate, recently got baptized. 0.65

01:17:30.000 I mean, these guys are viewed as street, scummy, drunk, you know, guys.

01:17:35.000 Russell Brand, viewed as kind of a degenerate guy for a long time, and he's turning his life around.

01:17:41.000 I will stress with the context of this conversation that I'm calling this a white pill, despite the fact that I will fully admit I am not a Christian, but I think everyone can agree when your choice is degenerate, urban, You know, dopamine chaser and routine churchgo with a moral tradition,

01:17:58.000 there's one that's preferable.

01:18:00.000 Substantially more preferable.

01:18:01.000 Absolutely. Clean, functioning, traditional people who are living in a healthy life versus people who are living as if they're going to die tomorrow and then just doing drugs and wasting away. 0.76

01:18:12.000 This is a huge white pill.

01:18:14.000 We're not even post-fourth turning.

01:18:16.000 Fourth turning hasn't even happened and young people are starting to adhere to a moral tradition.

01:18:20.000 Yeah, this is a pattern that's been going on, just maybe not as dramatic, but for years as people have kids.

01:18:27.000 And I'd be curious to know if your acquaintances, if your friends, if they have young kids, if they've gotten to that point in their life where when they have children, they look back in their own past and think, man, I want some of the same stuff I had.

01:18:41.000 Well, what I'll tell you is, in my life, the people that are having kids were already Christian, and the people who are not having kids have either abandoned it or not.

01:18:51.000 But what I will say is, my wife and I actually had this conversation.

01:18:54.000 We're both lapsed Catholics.

01:18:56.000 We...

01:18:57.000 I'm not going to lie to people and pretend to be a Christian because this is like, you know, some people probably would do it.

01:19:04.000 However, we both agreed our daughter's life would be infinitely better if she grew up with a church because we know that we did too, even though we left.

01:19:14.000 And the concern we have now is it's kind of a challenge.

01:19:18.000 I don't want to go to a church and pretend to have faith in something I don't.

01:19:21.000 I kind of feel it's disrespectful, despite the fact that most Christians have said, no, no, no, come, come anyway.

01:19:25.000 We want you there.

01:19:26.000 But we also know that this upbringing helped me and my wife be good people.

01:19:31.000 It helped us grow and learn good morals.

01:19:36.000 If we don't give our daughter that, then she won't have what we had.

01:19:39.000 And so we want her to understand the things we understand and experience what we understand to a limited effect.

01:19:43.000 And so that is the challenge, I suppose.

01:19:46.000 So we have talked about...

01:19:47.000 How do we do that?

01:19:49.000 And, of course, the response from 100% of Christians is, please come. 0.86

01:19:53.000 And we were like, well, I don't know.

01:19:55.000 I just don't feel we could do that.

01:19:56.000 Sarah and I have been to church four or five times in the past two or three months.

01:20:01.000 We've gone to Mary a couple times.

01:20:03.000 Sarah's got a friend that we've gone to church with them.

01:20:05.000 Both of us are lapsed Catholics.

01:20:08.000 Everybody's coming back.

01:20:09.000 I mean, well, look, the fact of the matter is, like, it really is a preferable way to raise your family.

01:20:15.000 I went the opposite way.

01:20:17.000 I'm a converted Catholic.

01:20:18.000 There you go.

01:20:19.000 I was Episcopalian until I married my wife.

01:20:22.000 They went woke, though, didn't they?

01:20:24.000 Oh, yeah.

01:20:25.000 The Episcopalian, they've got a female pope. 1.00

01:20:27.000 Oh, God.

01:20:29.000 Heavens! Yeah.

01:20:31.000 And the point of that is just to get people in the...

01:20:33.000 They think that they need to be en vogue just to get people in the pews, and really what they need to do is...

01:20:39.000 Is actually be a holy church that, and allow, if they believe, allow God to work his magic, you know?

01:20:47.000 Well, I've got two daughters, nine and 12, and one of the single best decisions my wife and I made is sending our kids to a classical Christian school rather than the public schools.

01:21:00.000 I mean, it's not just that they get a Christian education, but that they're not exposed to the toxic, woke public schools.

01:21:07.000 And with school choice expanding across the country, I think what you're white-pilling today, it's only going to continue to go. 0.56

01:21:16.000 I've told the story quite a bit, but I think y'all will like it.

01:21:19.000 It's Seamus Coughlin of Freedom Tunes.

01:21:22.000 Shout out to Freedom Tunes.

01:21:23.000 It's amazing.

01:21:24.000 You should subscribe on YouTube.

01:21:26.000 Seamus said, hey, meet up with me after we do a Latin Mass.

01:21:29.000 And I said, okay.

01:21:30.000 And me and my brother showed up as he was getting out.

01:21:33.000 And here I see people wearing their Sunday's best.

01:21:36.000 Having conversations, laughing.

01:21:38.000 The children were playing.

01:21:39.000 The children were also dressed in their Sunday's best.

01:21:41.000 And I just thought to myself, isn't this infinitely preferable to what we see in the cities with kids doing drugs and running around and joining gangs?

01:21:47.000 And like, I'll take some of that!

01:21:49.000 One of the masses that I went to recently was a Latin mass, and I had never been to a Latin mass before.

01:21:53.000 And I tell you what, like, whatever you think of a Catholic...

01:21:58.000 Like, the Latin mass is like you get transported like 500 years into the past. 0.97

01:22:04.000 It's like, or maybe a thousand years ago.

01:22:06.000 It's like totally medieval, and it's kind of like, wow, this is kind of metal.

01:22:10.000 Sounds fun.

01:22:10.000 It's kind of metal.

01:22:12.000 You know?

01:22:12.000 It's all in Latin, too, right?

01:22:14.000 Yeah, all in Latin, yeah.

01:22:15.000 Wow. I don't even know what they're saying.

01:22:16.000 There's a, in the, I forget what it's called, the program, it's actually translated, you have one page as Latin, one page as Latin.

01:22:23.000 Do you sing?

01:22:24.000 No, I don't, because I don't know Latin.

01:22:27.000 Do they sing?

01:22:28.000 Yeah, they do, they do, yes.

01:22:30.000 Because I mean, like, if Phil Labonte was singing metal Latin.

01:22:36.000 It's actually really cool, it's a trip.

01:22:37.000 Well, the question is, can you get the benefits without the foundations?

01:22:41.000 So, like, if you, not as individuals, but like as a society, if...

01:22:46.000 If we recognize, whether it's the old-school Catholic Church or the Baptist Church, Reformed Baptists, not too dissimilar in morals, though, like, can you have one without the other? 0.92

01:22:59.000 And I think that's, I don't know, 20, 30 years ago, that was kind of tried of, yeah, we're just going to kind of play along with the functions, and that's maybe how we wound up here.

01:23:10.000 I don't think that you can...

01:23:12.000 I don't think that, especially in our society today, I don't think you can get to the road to Damascus experience unless you surround yourself with Christians, unless you go to church, unless you're walking that path. 0.84

01:23:24.000 And then, if it's going to happen, if God's going to move in your life, then he's going to do it then.

01:23:29.000 That's what makes the most sense to me.

01:23:30.000 I was watching Charlie Kirk on the Bill Maher Club Random, and Bill Maher made a comment about, he asked about, he is risen, the phrase referring to Easter.

01:23:40.000 And Charlie Kirk says, well, it's undying.

01:23:43.000 It's immortal.

01:23:44.000 It's all time.

01:23:44.000 It's not a past thing.

01:23:45.000 It's a current.

01:23:46.000 It's always.

01:23:47.000 And it's for everybody.

01:23:48.000 If it was just he was risen, it's a thing that happened a long time ago.

01:23:51.000 Bill Maher laughs and says, it's amazing. 1.00

01:23:53.000 I'm paraphrasing, but something about how someone could be intellectual but believe something so stupid. 1.00

01:23:57.000 And Charlie said, it's not stupid. 0.99

01:23:59.000 That's not what I mean. 0.96

01:24:00.000 What I mean is how they can make themselves come to believe these things.

01:24:03.000 And I thought to myself, while I don't identify as Christian, I do believe in God.

01:24:09.000 And I was thinking, You know, I feel like a lot of Christians either don't understand or don't know how to, maybe I shouldn't speak for other people, but the way I would explain it to Bill Maher is, in this moment I said, Bill, I'm thinking to myself,

01:24:25.000 I would ask him, can you see the color yellow over there?

01:24:28.000 And he'd look and he'd say, yes, I can see yellow.

01:24:31.000 Prove to me it's yellow.

01:24:32.000 He'll be like, what do you mean?

01:24:33.000 Like, I can see it.

01:24:34.000 It's there.

01:24:35.000 I know it.

01:24:36.000 I'm looking at it.

01:24:37.000 I'm experiencing it.

01:24:38.000 Okay, that's how I feel about God.

01:24:40.000 I don't know why you don't.

01:24:42.000 But for a lot of people, I think that's the way it is.

01:24:46.000 You experience God similarly to how I can look and I can see the color blue on a wall and say, I'm seeing blue.

01:24:55.000 And there's an old philosophical question of, what if blue to you is red to somebody else?

01:24:59.000 Like, well, I don't know, but I know that I am currently experiencing something, and I don't know why you can't. 1.00

01:25:04.000 Bill then says, you're being stupid. 1.00

01:25:07.000 You know, I don't think he was trying to be intentionally derogatory, but he says, how could you believe something so dumb? 1.00

01:25:11.000 And I'm like, could it just be that there's a perception you don't have? 0.94

01:25:15.000 Yeah, that reminds me of the C.S. Lewis quote.

01:25:19.000 Prolific author.

01:25:20.000 Genius. But he said something along the lines of, believing in God, Christianity is not looking at the sun, it's looking at everything because of the sun.

01:25:29.000 Like, he can see the world because the sun's there, but he's not staring at the sun.

01:25:34.000 I wonder if, you know, if that's what it is, though.

01:25:37.000 Is it that people who...

01:25:40.000 Here's what I think.

01:25:42.000 I think there's probably a lot of people who have faith in God, and even faith particularly in Jesus and specific religion and denominations, Who don't actually feel it but have faith.

01:25:52.000 They believe it.

01:25:53.000 But I do believe there's probably a lot of people who literally experience this.

01:25:56.000 I've met them.

01:25:57.000 They've told me these stories.

01:25:58.000 And so to them, it's like, as plain as day as I see the sky, I feel the presence of God.

01:26:03.000 And then I think that there are people like Bill Maher who lack the perception for something like this and also don't believe it.

01:26:11.000 So they say, you all must be crazy because however I see the world is the way you must see the world instead of realizing he just has a different...

01:26:20.000 There's a strong hint of arrogance and belittling in that comment, too. 0.88

01:26:27.000 You want to question somebody else's faith.

01:26:31.000 Like, you better come with receipts that you know the answer.

01:26:35.000 Yeah, one of the things that...

01:26:37.000 So, like I said earlier, I'm in a heavy metal band, and that's my gig outside of this.

01:26:42.000 And I spent the past 25 years touring with all kinds of people, and a significant portion of them are atheists, right?

01:26:49.000 Committed atheists, I don't believe.

01:26:51.000 And one of the things that they continually say is things like, oh, the spaghetti monster in the sky, and they belittle it.

01:26:58.000 And it's like... 0.86

01:27:00.000 I've always found that so arrogant and such a ridiculous take on religion, because something that I've said that's totally true, but something that I talk about a lot. 0.53

01:27:11.000 In every human society, forever, for all the times that there's been humans, and likely pre-humans, likely the... 0.85

01:27:20.000 You know, Neanderthal and other things that were before humans, they likely had religion.

01:27:26.000 In every society that humans have ever had, no matter how far they are separated in time or distance, there was religion.

01:27:33.000 So to think, oh, in the past 15 seconds, we figured out that we don't need that.

01:27:39.000 And now, all of the things that...

01:27:42.000 That came with religion, and they only focus on bad things, like times that there was excesses or times where you could cast religion as a negative.

01:27:52.000 All those things don't matter anymore, because now I'm so enlightened, and I don't need any of that stuff. 0.97

01:27:58.000 And it's just such a pompous and ridiculous, thoughtless position to hold. 0.93

01:28:05.000 And it drives me nuts hearing people say things like, oh, the spaghetti monster in the sky. 0.96

01:28:09.000 This betting monster thing I find funny because it's like, imagine you yelled that there is a giant grizzly bear behind you and they went, what?

01:28:16.000 And you were like, it is a gigantic beast.

01:28:18.000 It's covered in hair.

01:28:18.000 It's got big teeth.

01:28:19.000 And like, oh, you believe in the furry bear.

01:28:22.000 Oh, I don't believe you.

01:28:23.000 And you're like, I am warning you.

01:28:24.000 But let's jump to this.

01:28:26.000 This was big news today.

01:28:27.000 I want to jump to this story.

01:28:27.000 We'll get this one in from the Post Millennial.

01:28:29.000 RFK Jr. to eliminate artificial dyes in food and medicines by 2026.

01:28:36.000 So this is funny because West Virginia tried pushing it to 2028.

01:28:39.000 They passed a ban in the state saying by 2028, no more artificial dyes.

01:28:44.000 It's a three-year lead time.

01:28:46.000 RFK just steps up and goes, no, actually, just one year.

01:28:48.000 Get it done now, everyone.

01:28:50.000 And I am 100% for it.

01:28:53.000 So RFK Jr.

01:28:56.000 And FDA Commissioner Marty McCary announced Tuesday that petroleum-based synthetic dyes will be eliminated from medications and the nation's food supply by the end of 2026, about a year and a half.

01:29:05.000 This includes those found in candy soft drinks, desserts, breakfast cereals, and jams.

01:29:09.000 The agency said it would set a standard and deadline for the industry to transition to natural alternatives and take action to remove remaining colors from the market.

01:29:17.000 The FDA intends to revoke authorization for dyes that are not in production within the coming weeks.

01:29:22.000 Nice. Epic!

01:29:24.000 Sorry, Michael Malice.

01:29:26.000 You know, we were talking to Michael about it and he's like, why should they do this?

01:29:28.000 I want my petroleum dyes.

01:29:29.000 I'm like, well, our exertion of power has exceeded yours.

01:29:34.000 So now we get to ban artificial food dyes.

01:29:36.000 I noticed on the list of dyes that they're banning is Yellow Dye No.

01:29:41.000 5, which if you're a diehard fan, you remember the cop said that was one of the ingredients in the Twinkies that he was eating.

01:29:49.000 Great movie.

01:29:50.000 Absolutely great movie.

01:29:51.000 But I'm totally on board with this.

01:29:53.000 I've got a lot of libertarian tendencies, but this is one that's long overdue.

01:29:58.000 We've got so much garbage in our food supply.

01:30:02.000 And related...

01:30:05.000 The federal government is in charge of the nutritional dietary guidelines, and those guidelines dictate what our kids eat in schools.

01:30:15.000 And that is a political process.

01:30:18.000 That is not a scientific process where they decide what's good or bad.

01:30:24.000 Potatoes are okay because the Idaho senator said they're okay.

01:30:28.000 And they go through all the lists. 0.96

01:30:31.000 It's a corrupt... 0.99

01:30:34.000 And years and years and years and years of that corruption led to all this garbage in our food. 1.00

01:30:40.000 Yep. That's the libertarian challenge is they say people can buy what they want to buy.

01:30:44.000 And I'm like, look, man, if people if a guy walks up to someone and says, buy this smoothie, but it's turpentine and they die, what does our society do?

01:30:54.000 Well, libertarians would largely argue like, well, you killed him.

01:30:57.000 And it's like, OK, what if he puts only a little bit of turpentine in it?

01:31:00.000 Now they're not going to they're only going to slowly die.

01:31:03.000 No, no, you're still...

01:31:03.000 Okay, where's the line?

01:31:04.000 Right? These petroleum-based chemicals are reportedly connected to a whole bunch of chronic illnesses, and that's causing us serious problems.

01:31:14.000 In fact, RFKJ is putting us in the poorhouse.

01:31:17.000 It's costing us around $1.6 billion.

01:31:19.000 I think it's a billion per year, or was it more?

01:31:22.000 Yeah, something like that.

01:31:23.000 In medical costs.

01:31:25.000 Yeah, he says ADHD, obesity, diabetes, insulin resistance, cancer, genomic disruption.

01:31:31.000 Jeez. When we talked to RFK at the Libertarian National Convention,

01:31:47.000 the question that I had for him was about mandatory spending and about the unfunded liabilities.

01:31:52.000 And his answer was, well, you know, we're going to fix the food.

01:31:55.000 And at the time, I was like, I don't know if that's going to fix the problem.

01:32:00.000 There's a whole lot.

01:32:02.000 But at the same time, there is value to the idea that if our major food producers are making things that actually make us sick, and there's no question that there's a massive increase in early-onset diabetes,

01:32:18.000 there's a massive increase in obesity.

01:32:20.000 Now, it's not just the food that we eat, because people have a much more sedentary lifestyle now.

01:32:25.000 But if there are things in the food that we eat that are making us sick...

01:32:30.000 I think that it's okay if the government says, hey, get those things out.

01:32:33.000 And if it helps lower the cost of health care for people when they become older, then hey, that's a good thing.

01:32:42.000 And this is my conspiracy theorist hat on, but I also think it's realist, is that think of the turtles all the way down here, which is the FDA is contemplating whether...

01:32:58.000 And I'm talking years ago, is contemplating whether yellow dye number five makes sense.

01:33:02.000 Well, we cannot approve yellow dye number five without scientific evidence.

01:33:07.000 The food industry gets a bunch of scientists together, writes a paper, says yellow dye number five is just fine.

01:33:13.000 And then it gets approved.

01:33:15.000 And then do they get legal immunity?

01:33:19.000 Protection because the FDA, so then they're not even legally liable for it if you get sick.

01:33:25.000 There's no funding for scientific studies to question whether it's bad.

01:33:31.000 So the libertarian argument is almost on our side here, which is that the government's tentacles are so deep into this that getting them out of it is the correct move here.

01:33:45.000 You know, I realized something because...

01:33:47.000 I was scrolling through Instagram, as I often do, and there was a clip from The Founder, and it was where Michael Keaton, playing Ray Kroc, he orders food at the drive-thru, and then they bring it to him, and he's like, I ordered barbecue beef!

01:34:00.000 Then it shows him walking up to the very first McDonald's, and he says, I'll take a hamburger, and they hand it to him, and he goes, what's this?

01:34:07.000 And they're like, your food?

01:34:07.000 He says, no, no, I just ordered.

01:34:08.000 And they're like, and it's here.

01:34:09.000 And he was shocked.

01:34:10.000 What I realized is fast food doesn't exist anymore.

01:34:13.000 What we have now are chemically processed garbage factories.

01:34:17.000 The first McDonald's, they were grilling real burgers.

01:34:22.000 And when you walked up, it was actually a real restaurant quality burger, but they just made it very quickly because they were doing an assembly line.

01:34:29.000 Now McDonald's has turned into processed sludge that doesn't decay.

01:34:33.000 All of them are.

01:34:35.000 I don't even know what Taco Bell is.

01:34:38.000 It's delicious, by the way.

01:34:39.000 It is.

01:34:40.000 And so the idea that there are diners and there's fast food, when you're watching that movie, there were diners, like a drive-in or a diner, and it took 20 minutes, and then there was the fast food revolution,

01:34:55.000 which he discovers at McDonald's, where he was like, this is the best burger I've ever had.

01:34:59.000 I gotta tell you, McDonald's burgers and fries are disgusting, and...

01:35:04.000 You know, I know a lot of people might be like, I like them.

01:35:06.000 Yeah, but you'd know you'd like a smash burger from, like if you go to a higher-end casual dining place where they got a $15 smash burger with real ingredients, I know you like that more.

01:35:17.000 That's how it kind of used to be.

01:35:20.000 We just don't have fast food anymore?

01:35:21.000 I guess Chipotle, maybe?

01:35:23.000 We were talking about this on the way here.

01:35:23.000 Well, just think about McDonald's.

01:35:27.000 They used to fry their french fries in tallow, but then the federal government comes in with Title I subsidies for corn, which makes the seed oils.

01:35:42.000 And makes it ridiculously cheap.

01:35:45.000 So if you're McDonald's, why would you not swap out tallow for vegetable oil and save money on the bottom line?

01:35:53.000 So it's just the government inserting their tentacles again to make us sick.

01:35:57.000 With our own money.

01:35:58.000 But we were talking about on the way here.

01:35:59.000 You asked me what's the best barbecue restaurant in Charleston.

01:36:02.000 You know, Charleston, South Carolina is where I'm at and famous for good food.

01:36:06.000 And I mentioned Louis Barbecue, and it's so good that they fry their french fries in the drippings of the brisket.

01:36:12.000 Nice. And they collect that.

01:36:13.000 That's real food.

01:36:14.000 That's real food.

01:36:15.000 Exactly. Yeah.

01:36:16.000 That's extremely good.

01:36:17.000 Look, I mean, I personally am still a fan of McDonald's fries.

01:36:21.000 I think that's the only thing.

01:36:22.000 Like, after they stop serving breakfast, I think the only thing worth going to McDonald's for anymore is the fries.

01:36:29.000 And I won't go make a special trip to McDonald's for the fries.

01:36:34.000 But yeah, the idea that they should have the government tell them what they must, what actual food products they must use, I'm not so sure that that's actually the proper course of action.

01:36:48.000 We need to figure out a way to have a counter that tells you how long you're going to live.

01:36:54.000 And when you go run a mile...

01:36:57.000 It doesn't drop down.

01:36:59.000 And when you eat a french fry from McDonald's, does it drop a day?

01:37:04.000 Wait, wait, wait.

01:37:05.000 What does Taco Bell do?

01:37:07.000 I gotta tell you.

01:37:08.000 I bought this watch.

01:37:10.000 I bought this watch.

01:37:11.000 And when I go to sleep, it tracks my health metrics.

01:37:16.000 And I also have this bed, the Sleep 8 bed.

01:37:19.000 It's amazing, by the way.

01:37:20.000 They didn't sponsor us, but I would love it if they did.

01:37:22.000 It's a bed where you put water in this thing, and it can cool and heat your bed, but it also tracks your sleep.

01:37:28.000 Have a single beer.

01:37:30.000 One. Yeah.

01:37:32.000 Go to sleep.

01:37:33.000 Wake up in the morning and check your health stats.

01:37:35.000 And it says, you're dying.

01:37:37.000 And it's crazy.

01:37:39.000 No joke, I go out to eat with my wife, and I'm like, I'll get a single glass of red wine, because I say red wine's not bad.

01:37:44.000 I go to bed, I wake up, and it's like, recovery is 20%, sleep score is 37, your breath rate was bad, and it says, you may be getting sick.

01:37:53.000 Something is wrong or you're drinking alcohol.

01:37:55.000 And I'm like, wow.

01:37:56.000 I was like, none.

01:37:58.000 I've got the Oura Ring.

01:37:59.000 And the very first app I open up in the morning is to check my sleep score.

01:38:02.000 And the one thing that I care about most is how much time I spend in deep sleep.

01:38:07.000 Because when you're in deep sleep, that's when your body scrapes all the plaque in your brain and gets rid of it so you don't get Alzheimer's and dementia.

01:38:19.000 Diabetes and stuff like that.

01:38:21.000 And you're exactly right.

01:38:22.000 You have one drink and your deep sleep just crashes.

01:38:27.000 Just recovery and everything is just gone.

01:38:29.000 Yeah. It's like you're very sick.

01:38:30.000 And you are. 1.00

01:38:31.000 You drink poison.

01:38:32.000 So since then I've been like, I ain't touching any of that stuff.

01:38:34.000 The best sleep I ever had was last summer and I remember it clearly.

01:38:38.000 I didn't spend any time on my phone.

01:38:41.000 At night, I ate a normal meal.

01:38:43.000 I didn't stay inside.

01:38:44.000 I went outside by a fire pit, looked at the fire, talked with friends, went to bed.

01:38:50.000 I was dead for 10 hours.

01:38:53.000 It was the best sleep I ever had.

01:38:55.000 And it was all just normal human things that we did 10,000 years ago.

01:39:00.000 Man. I'd be curious, though, to see what the stats are between Europe, like Italy, where they drink wine with every meal, versus here.

01:39:08.000 Like their Alzheimer rates and dementia rates.

01:39:12.000 If it's the alcohol or if it's all the other... 0.99

01:39:14.000 Well, they don't have the crap in the food. 1.00

01:39:16.000 Maybe it's the garbage. 1.00

01:39:17.000 But they don't have the crap in the food like we do. 0.99

01:39:19.000 We have about 10,000 chemicals, chemical additives, and they only have about 400 to 410 over in the EU. 0.56

01:39:26.000 So we've got a lot more than them.

01:39:27.000 A lot more slop in our stuff.

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01:40:47.000 And I'm sure there are many questions.

01:40:49.000 Evan for us says any way we could communicate with Trump and his team about what we can do about Trump cutting funding to Alzheimer's and dementia research or is there more to it?

01:40:59.000 Well, I think there's always more to it.

01:41:01.000 I think the issue is largely that they're, and correct me if I'm wrong, just probably blanket cutting all these research grants, regardless of where they're going to.

01:41:10.000 Everybody's going to want their project to get funded.

01:41:12.000 But I got to tell you, as most of you probably know, when you're cutting budgets, you keep going over it.

01:41:17.000 You're like, I can't cut that.

01:41:17.000 I can't cut that.

01:41:18.000 And then you're like, Gotta cut something.

01:41:21.000 Maybe a little bit from everything.

01:41:23.000 Or else what do you do?

01:41:25.000 It's like hoarding or not hoarding.

01:41:27.000 Like I've moved recently.

01:41:29.000 Do I want to throw this out?

01:41:30.000 Do I want to throw that out?

01:41:31.000 You gotta throw everything out.

01:41:33.000 I don't think that the process of funding research like that is as pristine as people think.

01:41:39.000 It's more complicated than that.

01:41:40.000 You've got...

01:41:41.000 You know, Anthony Fauci type folks who are in charge of that funding.

01:41:45.000 And that funding goes to woke universities like Harvard who, you know, spend 30% of that on actual research and the rest on administrative expenses.

01:41:58.000 And so it's not only wasteful, but it's also political on what gets funded and what doesn't.

01:42:04.000 I mean, it's pure Soviet Politburo top-down central planning.

01:42:10.000 Like, the most worthy research doesn't necessarily get funded.

01:42:15.000 So the whole thing's corrupt.

01:42:16.000 I get rid of it tomorrow.

01:42:20.000 Indeed. Twas ever thus says, I was so proud of you today, Tim.

01:42:24.000 You and Elad, Timcast, ruled the day.

01:42:26.000 I really do appreciate it.

01:42:27.000 Elad got some pretty good questions in.

01:42:28.000 He went for the normal questions, just straightforward.

01:42:32.000 I think he got two for Carolyn Levitt, and he got one for Trump.

01:42:35.000 Yeah, he asked Trump if, and this is interesting.

01:42:38.000 Because Trump's got to be careful with his words.

01:42:40.000 Ilad asked him if the Trump administration would allow Hamas to control the Gaza Strip post-war, or he's essentially said, will Hamas need to be removed for a ceasefire to actually happen?

01:42:56.000 And Trump said something to, I think he said, we're not going to let Hamas do that, and we're looking in to see how it goes, which sort of insinuated he was saying Hamas will be removed from Gaza.

01:43:06.000 So it's interesting.

01:43:07.000 So I think Elad did a good job.

01:43:09.000 Whether you're for or against it, you know, the fact of the matter is Trump made that statement.

01:43:14.000 But I'm sure they'll say, no, no, no, he was saying we're going to wait and see.

01:43:16.000 So he didn't give a definitive answer.

01:43:18.000 Still, it's rad that we've got Elad in the White House in the press pool asking questions.

01:43:25.000 Boy, was the media really salty about that.

01:43:27.000 Numerous times now, they keep complaining.

01:43:29.000 You know what I said to these people?

01:43:32.000 Elad has been nothing but professional.

01:43:34.000 He's not gone in there and insulted and disparaged people.

01:43:37.000 He's just asked questions, and they keep deriding him.

01:43:41.000 I'm like, this guy didn't do anything.

01:43:43.000 He's just asking questions.

01:43:46.000 These people are threatened by their cabal being stripped from their authority.

01:43:52.000 Yeah, I mean, look, like the, like, what's her name last night, Tara was saying, it is true that a significant portion of the, you know, legacy media are actually there for access.

01:44:04.000 They're there because they want to be around the people that make the calls, that make policy, because it's better than money, because if you can have...

01:44:13.000 If you have the chief of staff's number and you can call the chief of staff and say, hey, can you help me get this guy on the phone?

01:44:19.000 Or, hey, can you help get this blah, blah, blah?

01:44:21.000 It's better than money.

01:44:22.000 The point of money is to be able to affect reality, right?

01:44:25.000 Affect the world around you.

01:44:26.000 Otherwise, the money has no value.

01:44:28.000 If you're not using it to do things, it's just paper.

01:44:31.000 So why have the money, which you have to worry about taxes, you have to worry about, you know...

01:44:36.000 Questions of legality, of illicit payments or whatever, why not just have the chief of staff's phone number and you can call and say, hey, do you know anyone over at this location?

01:44:46.000 Can you call them and get this done?

01:44:48.000 If you can do that, it's better than money.

01:44:52.000 Indeed. Jacob Bolley says, Jackson, the court's president, what is it?

01:44:57.000 Do it restore constitutional powers to the executive branch and the people.

01:45:00.000 We need FDR-style republicanism.

01:45:02.000 The GOP must use state power while they have it full speed.

01:45:06.000 Indeed. Pinochet says, Tim, I can't read that.

01:45:11.000 But he basically said I was very disrespectful to the media, and we agree.

01:45:16.000 Justifiably so.

01:45:18.000 Yeah, he said something much worse.

01:45:19.000 We'll read it in the uncensored portion of the show.

01:45:22.000 Three Star Perfect Deer says, still waiting on the Epstein list.

01:45:26.000 So I sat down with, as I mentioned earlier, Secretary of DHS, Chrissy Noem, Sebastian Gorka, as well as Secretary Duffy.

01:45:36.000 And we're probably going to roll out the interview with Kristi Noem tomorrow during the Our Rumble live show.

01:45:46.000 Gorka on Thursday.

01:45:47.000 And then with Secretary Duffy on Monday.

01:45:50.000 They all have a, you know, with all due respect to the individuals we interviewed, the cabinet members, I don't want this to sound in any way disrespectful, but we sort of weighed them in terms of newsworthiness.

01:46:01.000 So I'm not trying to be disrespectful in any way.

01:46:05.000 I think the conversation with Sean Duffy was the most fun, but it's kind of evergreen.

01:46:10.000 We discussed planes, DEI, drones, UAPs, and things like this.

01:46:15.000 He did make some interesting statements, which I think may get clipped, about seeing videos of UAPs going in and out of water and things like this, which I thought were fascinating.

01:46:25.000 But with Secretary Noem, we discussed the more pressing stuff, the border.

01:46:32.000 Gorka, however...

01:46:34.000 I mean, this guy knows how to talk.

01:46:35.000 He's a radio guy.

01:46:36.000 He's a podcaster himself.

01:46:37.000 And so we had a much longer conversation.

01:46:40.000 In terms of the Epstein list, Cash and Dan, and we will put this out.

01:46:44.000 He basically said, give us time.

01:46:46.000 It's been three months.

01:46:48.000 We just got here.

01:46:48.000 There's so much paperwork.

01:46:50.000 There's so much you've got to do to get these things to happen.

01:46:52.000 But he very much said, rest assured, we are doing what you're hoping we're going to do.

01:46:58.000 And I told him, I'm not going to be impatient.

01:47:01.000 I have faith in Cash and Dan.

01:47:03.000 I could not imagine a scenario where Dan Bongino walks away from the biggest live show in the country, tens of millions of dollars, for a low six-figure public service job, and then just doesn't get the job done.

01:47:14.000 That's not going to happen.

01:47:15.000 So I'm very optimistic.

01:47:18.000 I can understand the frustrations as well, though.

01:47:20.000 Me, I'm just...

01:47:21.000 Cash Dan and Pam, I give them all of my benefit of the doubt.

01:47:25.000 All of it.

01:47:26.000 We were kind of spoiled by the first...

01:47:29.000 Month or two of the presidency when all the Doge stuff was going on.

01:47:33.000 Going so hard.

01:47:33.000 But every day was just so awesome.

01:47:35.000 Yeah, it was.

01:47:36.000 And rightfully so, maybe needed to scale back just the brazenness of it.

01:47:42.000 But I hope they do just put the pedal to the metal and start doing that kind of stuff again.

01:47:49.000 The Real Hydro says narcissistic personality disorder is a mental health condition characterized by a persistent pattern of grandiosity and a need for admiration.

01:47:57.000 I mean, this explains the corporate press.

01:47:59.000 Exactly. All of those people sitting in that room, many of them are there specifically for the purpose of getting their viral clip just to yell at the press secretary and then say, see, I yelled at the president.

01:48:11.000 And in doing so, they will lie and misinform the public.

01:48:14.000 Is this why the press and establishment politicians get along so well?

01:48:18.000 Because they have the same goals.

01:48:21.000 Narcissistic, yeah.

01:48:22.000 There was that clip, I don't know if you guys saw it from Jordan Peterson on Rogan, where he said psychopaths are taking over the right.

01:48:29.000 And it's like, yeah, I'm just going to say it.

01:48:31.000 We all know that Jordan Peterson disparaged Candace Owens.

01:48:34.000 So it's kind of obvious he's referring to at least her.

01:48:37.000 But I tweeted this, who is he talking about?

01:48:39.000 Because taking over the right?

01:48:40.000 If he's got beef with Candace Owens, you should just...

01:48:43.000 Probably say that you're beefing with one other personality for her views or whatever your criticism is.

01:48:48.000 But she's just one person.

01:48:50.000 She's got a big show. 0.98

01:48:51.000 She's one person.

01:48:52.000 Like, who are these psychopaths on the right that are taking over?

01:48:55.000 I'm genuinely curious.

01:48:56.000 I wonder if he was also referring to Andrew Tate because of his daughter's association with him.

01:49:02.000 But I don't view Tate as taking over the right.

01:49:06.000 Tate occupies his own specific space.

01:49:08.000 Maybe not, but like I said, I think that's probably who he was referring to.

01:49:12.000 I got to be honest.

01:49:14.000 I think the effectiveness of what he was saying was completely wiped away by him not giving specifics of behaviors and individuals.

01:49:22.000 I understand why he doesn't want to come on Joe's show and specifically say, you know, Candace Owen is a Pharisee and blah, blah, blah.

01:49:27.000 Like, he tweeted that.

01:49:28.000 But I kind of feel like if you're trying to say, look at a specific behavior I'm criticizing, when you don't name the person, it just kind of sounds like you're sub...

01:49:39.000 Tweeting them, you know?

01:49:40.000 You're just trying to insult them without actually saying their name.

01:49:43.000 I don't understand what he's trying to say, to be honest.

01:49:47.000 He mentioned James Lindsay in the woke right idea, which is completely nonsensical.

01:49:51.000 So I don't know what he's talking about other than there are people on the right I personally don't like.

01:49:56.000 And I'm like, okay.

01:49:58.000 Me too, I guess.

01:49:59.000 Say that.

01:50:00.000 Right. So it seems like he's applying this to a grandiosity.

01:50:05.000 Like, oh, it's because psychopaths are taking over because they exist.

01:50:07.000 And I'm like...

01:50:08.000 I mean, if your point is that psychopaths exist in all facets, and the right has some too, I don't think anyone's disagreeing with that.

01:50:16.000 But I don't know who or what behaviors you're talking about.

01:50:19.000 I can't think of anyone that has blown up recently or gotten super bigger in the last couple months that has taken over the right.

01:50:25.000 That's not already been there.

01:50:26.000 I mean, Candace isn't taking over the right. 1.00

01:50:28.000 She's had a big show forever.

01:50:30.000 She's doing very well, right?

01:50:32.000 She's been growing.

01:50:34.000 But she's had skyrocketing growth forever.

01:50:37.000 She sat down with celebrities and she was interviewing Ye back in the day before Ye went on this arc.

01:50:43.000 You know what I mean?

01:50:45.000 I think she's been on a path of success for the past five years.

01:50:48.000 Arc is an interesting way to describe it.

01:50:51.000 You know what I think?

01:50:52.000 I think...

01:50:54.000 Here's what I think happened with Ye.

01:50:56.000 He was talking seriously about the 13th Amendment.

01:51:00.000 And he said, we've got to...

01:51:02.000 I'm paraphrasing, but something like, we've got to repeal the 13th Amendment.

01:51:06.000 His point in the greater context was they never banned slavery.

01:51:10.000 They codified it in the Constitution, which actually states in the 13th, it doesn't say slavery is banned.

01:51:15.000 It says slavery is allowed if you're convicted of a crime and any crime, meaning somebody who jaywalks can then be put forced into slavery. 0.91

01:51:22.000 He was saying we need to get rid of that.

01:51:25.000 The media then lied and flipped the narrative and said he wanted slavery back. 0.84

01:51:30.000 I think he saw that and he probably went, they're all liars. 0.98

01:51:36.000 And so when he dresses up in a black Klan outfit, the things he's done and things he said, I think he's trying to just basically say, you're all liars. 0.98

01:51:46.000 No matter what I do, you're going to make it up. 0.92

01:51:48.000 So I'm going to put on a show and I'm going to mess with the system.

01:51:52.000 I think that's largely what it is.

01:51:53.000 I can understand why people are upset with him, though, for sure.

01:51:56.000 He's definitely messing with the system.

01:51:58.000 Indeed. What do we got here?

01:52:00.000 The Dude Abide says, be watchful of Illinois' governor.

01:52:03.000 It's heavily speculated J.B. Pritzker is going to run for POTUS in 2028.

01:52:07.000 He's got billions to spend on an election.

01:52:09.000 He's got a scandal for exceeding the donation amount of two Illinois Supreme Court judges.

01:52:14.000 Interesting. First of all, J.B. Pritzker's not running anywhere.

01:52:20.000 Touche. We have an Illinois Freedom Caucus that routinely spars with him, and what's interesting about him is that he is not...

01:52:30.000 Trying to moderate to the center like Gavin Newsom is or Josh Shapiro or even Westmore in Maryland.

01:52:39.000 So he may have a lot of money, but like you said, Phil, they spent a lot of money the last election and it didn't do anything.

01:52:48.000 And we'll see.

01:52:51.000 I think it really depends on the economy.

01:52:53.000 Yeah. Grabber Strategy says they're called slabs, student loan asset-backed securities.

01:53:00.000 Yikes. Rough.

01:53:03.000 D. Scott says, Tim, if or when you meet with President Trump again, throw everyone off and wear a toupee with a suit.

01:53:11.000 Maybe. It actually would be hilarious.

01:53:15.000 It would be.

01:53:16.000 You pull off the beanie, full head of hair.

01:53:19.000 Just long flowing locks.

01:53:21.000 Yeah, it'd be great.

01:53:21.000 It'd be great.

01:53:23.000 Shane H. Wilder says, kids will eat it up, this AI slop, because it's a cartoon, all while destroying their brains.

01:53:29.000 It's an easy way to make mind-numb automatons at wholesale prices.

01:53:34.000 Creepy. I'm In Disguise says, you gotta remember, the people who are making these videos are almost certainly from poor countries. 0.96

01:53:40.000 500 to 600 USD is probably how much they would make in a year with a regular job.

01:53:44.000 Indeed. One of the videos we looked at that was not AI slop, it was regular slop, was an Indian family doing these four or five second slop videos. 0.80

01:53:52.000 And it's...

01:53:54.000 I'm so offended by this stuff because they're attacking Americans with this and they don't care because they make money.

01:54:00.000 And so it's a video. 0.98

01:54:01.000 There was one video where like a guy takes candy from a little girl and then she gets up her chair and then he sits down and starts eating the candy and then it's just stupid sound effects and it's over.

01:54:10.000 And it's got, you know, I don't know, millions of views or whatever.

01:54:13.000 So for these people, it's like, I mean, 500 bucks is the equivalent of probably 5,000 for you or more.

01:54:20.000 And they're like, I'm rich.

01:54:22.000 And all they have to do is trick American kids into melting and frying their brains.

01:54:26.000 But I largely blame YouTube.

01:54:28.000 YouTube's too busy censoring channels like mine and other personalities to deal with the actual manipulation from foreign governments and countries that are trying to fry the brains of our children. 0.85

01:54:40.000 And unless there's some enforcement action against them, they don't care.

01:54:44.000 You know, Alcigate went on for, I think, years. 0.98

01:54:46.000 It got so bad that it turned into AI-generated videos.

01:54:50.000 I shouldn't say AI, but it's old school, of children eating feces out of toilets.

01:54:55.000 You know, one of the things that people don't or people may not think about when it comes to, you know, getting the government to step in with something like YouTube or with Spotify.

01:55:05.000 Specifically, that's the context that I was thinking of or I thought of prior.

01:55:10.000 You can't get these companies to comply with the federal government when they can say, well, then we just won't.

01:55:18.000 We won't be available in your country because there's only 330 million Americans.

01:55:24.000 There's a billion Indians, and there's a billion Chinese.

01:55:27.000 So if we cater to India and China, we'll more than make up for anything that we can get from the United States.

01:55:33.000 So we don't need to comply with you, with these rules that you make, if they conflict with the rules that China wants us to have or that India wants us to have.

01:55:42.000 The market is just vastly bigger, and it's really tough to get.

01:55:48.000 Any kind of government sanction to stick to companies when they can do that kind of stuff.

01:55:55.000 KO777 says, The millions of views on these insane videos just proves dead internet theory.

01:56:01.000 That's why YouTube hates it.

01:56:02.000 It proves their views are bots.

01:56:03.000 I don't think they're bots.

01:56:05.000 What we saw in Elsagate is parents would give a tablet to a baby and press play on a video and then leave.

01:56:11.000 And it would start with a normal nursery rhyme video.

01:56:15.000 Then it would start cycling through autoplay.

01:56:18.000 And eventually turn into psychotic deranged content.

01:56:21.000 There were videos of children, like I mentioned, eating feces.

01:56:26.000 There was amputations.

01:56:27.000 There were injections.

01:56:30.000 Just really horrifying, brutal stuff.

01:56:32.000 And then because it started going viral, human beings in poorer countries started making videos of injecting children and stuff like this.

01:56:40.000 Gross. There was one video with like 10 million views and it was a guy giving a saline injection to his like...

01:56:45.000 10-year-old daughter while she screamed and cried.

01:56:47.000 It's insane.

01:56:49.000 But they were promoting it, and babies can't change the channel. 0.77

01:56:52.000 All the comments were gibberish.

01:56:55.000 So it was this weird conspiracy.

01:56:56.000 People were trying to figure out why all these gibberish comments, because the babies were just smacking the screen.

01:57:01.000 It was random.

01:57:02.000 That's creepy, man, right?

01:57:04.000 Yeah. All right, let's grab some more.

01:57:09.000 All right.

01:57:10.000 Andrew SA says, Phil, you effing nailed it, brother.

01:57:13.000 I pray you all have your road to Damascus moment.

01:57:16.000 Truly, Christ is risen.

01:57:18.000 Cheers, man.

01:57:18.000 Interesting. Yeah.

01:57:20.000 Forced danger says, nobody knows God exists.

01:57:23.000 People have faith.

01:57:23.000 Faith is the hope.

01:57:26.000 It is this way on purpose.

01:57:28.000 If God gave us proof, we wouldn't need faith.

01:57:30.000 Bible said your faith will be tested, not your knowledge.

01:57:35.000 I understand what you're saying, but that's why I said I believe there are some people that don't.

01:57:39.000 Have that perception.

01:57:41.000 Someone chatted that I was arrogant for saying that.

01:57:43.000 All I can say is that, in my head, I have a perception, much like I see things to be true, that God is true.

01:57:52.000 I don't know what other people have, and I'm not saying there's anything wrong with anybody.

01:57:56.000 I'm saying, me?

01:57:58.000 It's just kind of like, yes, there is a God.

01:58:03.000 Try to explain to somebody, I guess, I don't know.

01:58:05.000 Some people just don't have it.

01:58:10.000 Yeah. All right, Kate says, Tim, my student loans were transferred to another company.

01:58:14.000 They were zeroed out, then reappeared on my credit.

01:58:17.000 High probability, Phil's comment is true, that they repackaged these loans into securities.

01:58:21.000 Interesting. Scary stuff, man.

01:58:24.000 Scary stuff.

01:58:25.000 Yeah. Who owns those loans is what I'm interested in.

01:58:29.000 I mean, BlackRock.

01:58:31.000 Yeah. You know?

01:58:33.000 BlackRock, whatever, I forget the name.

01:58:35.000 Vanguard. Yeah.

01:58:37.000 TheTruthA says California is trying to ban Glocks with AB1127 because of the illegal use of Glock switches.

01:58:44.000 This is a direct violation of SCOTUS ruling. 0.98

01:58:46.000 When are the feds going to finally arrest these scumbags? 0.99

01:58:50.000 Never? You know, there's only so many people in the DOJ. 0.99

01:58:55.000 And there's only so many U-Hauls that are going to keep going out of California into the other states.

01:59:01.000 Keep it going.

01:59:03.000 Jimmy says, actually, they're talking about bringing back the gold standard.

01:59:06.000 You peg the dollar to gold and then reset gold price to 100,000 per troy ounce.

01:59:11.000 The U.S.'s 8,000 tons.

01:59:13.000 do the math.

01:59:13.000 Yeah, I brought that up to, well, it's actually passed the House and the Senate a few years ago, 2012 in South Carolina for gold and silver to be legal tender and take the taxes off.

01:59:24.000 And I brought this up a couple of years last year in the budget and the response I got from the House leadership was,

01:59:33.000 This guy puts a tinfoil hat on his head and comes up to the well and just mocks the whole idea that gold and silver...

01:59:40.000 This is on the floor of the House with a tinfoil hat on.

01:59:43.000 Now he's the chairman of the Rules Committee.

01:59:45.000 The idea that gold could be money.

01:59:47.000 How crazy we are.

01:59:49.000 He's a Republican, by the way. 0.88

01:59:51.000 Unreal. We're crazy nutcases. 0.98

01:59:54.000 Gold's $3,400 an ounce.

01:59:56.000 I think it was what it hit yesterday.

01:59:57.000 Yeah. Yeah, 3,500.

01:59:59.000 It hit 35 and then it actually...

02:00:02.000 It's at 33.91.

02:00:04.000 Yeah. Jeez.

02:00:05.000 Yesterday it hit 35 and then that was kind of the ceiling and now it's 33.80 or whatever, yeah.

02:00:11.000 Back to your question of what do you buy, antiseptics, the more comprehensive answer is buy hard assets.

02:00:18.000 Yeah. Buy gold, buy silver, buy Bitcoin, buy real estate, buy land.

02:00:24.000 Not in a total collapse.

02:00:26.000 In a depression?

02:00:28.000 And in an economic crisis, you want gold, silver, Bitcoin, and copper even.

02:00:33.000 In a total collapse, those things are just going to weigh you down.

02:00:36.000 They won't do you anything.

02:00:38.000 Land won't.

02:00:40.000 Gold and silver won't either.

02:00:42.000 If we have total collapse, and I had a big old pile of beef, and you came to me and tried to give me gold for it, I'd look to Raymond.

02:00:50.000 Raymond's got a bottle of water.

02:00:51.000 I said, I'll take the water.

02:00:52.000 Total collapse, that chart showing the increased Christianity, that's where that kicks in. 1.00

02:00:57.000 Oh, yeah.

02:00:58.000 Sincerely. I mean, we stop relying on the government and we start relying on communities more.

02:01:02.000 Yeah, you know, it'll be interesting.

02:01:05.000 If there was a total collapse, the first thing people are going to do, they're going to secure a bat cave so they can get their saltpeter or potassium nitrate or something. 1.00

02:01:19.000 You want the bat crap so you can make gunpowder. 0.99

02:01:22.000 So if you've got the bat cave, then you need sulfur, I guess. 1.00

02:01:27.000 Charcoal? Mm-hmm.

02:01:29.000 I mean, bullets are cheap and easy now.

02:01:35.000 I'm probably wrong on what's in it.

02:01:36.000 I don't know.

02:01:37.000 I don't think it's potassium nitrate.

02:01:38.000 I'm probably wrong about that.

02:01:39.000 Whatever. I've only seen the episode of Dr. Stone one time, so I forgot.

02:01:46.000 All right.

02:01:47.000 Pile of Kyle says, Christianity, whether you agree or not, is a great moral structure and foundation.

02:01:53.000 As are now non-existent youth programs as are now non-existent youth programs like the Boy Scouts, Girl Scouts, 4-H, etc.

02:02:02.000 I'm a proud Eagle Scout, but they lost their way.

02:02:04.000 Yep. They sure did.

02:02:08.000 Brian Rich asks me to describe the God that I believe in.

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02:03:56.000 You've never had any of them yet?

02:03:57.000 I have, absolutely.

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02:04:57.000 Oh, man.

02:04:58.000 Are we going to spend the first ten minutes for the Uncensored talking about God?

02:05:01.000 Because someone asked.

02:05:02.000 Let me start by reading the comment I couldn't read.

02:05:05.000 And let me see if I can find it.

02:05:07.000 Pinochet says, Tim literally called up the media to their faces, then dropped his testes into their lattes and made them sip.

02:05:16.000 Uncensored portion of the show, by the way.

02:05:20.000 I don't know how easy it is for me to describe the god that I believe in, but I believe it is very simple in, as Michael Knowles explained it, as the logos of the universe.

02:05:31.000 And that's probably easy.

02:05:34.000 Right? Like logos, the Greek concept of logos?

02:05:38.000 It is the grand logic of all things.

02:05:41.000 It is the...

02:05:43.000 I don't know.

02:05:45.000 It's... It's kind of difficult to describe.

02:05:49.000 It's like someone, like, describe yellow.

02:05:51.000 You know what I mean?

02:05:52.000 That's why I equate it to colors.

02:05:54.000 In my mind, in my experience, in the things that I've seen, there is kind of a, there's a perception of the existence of God.

02:06:03.000 Like a deistic?

02:06:04.000 Like a, like deism in the classroom?

02:06:05.000 The problem with deism is that they believe God does not intervene.

02:06:08.000 Right. So it is interesting that that's where people usually go, but I don't know if there's a word for, you know, I believe in God.

02:06:16.000 And I'm a fan of the Christian moral tradition.

02:06:20.000 But I do not believe in Jesus Christ.

02:06:22.000 I believe he's a real person.

02:06:23.000 I believe all of that stuff happened.

02:06:25.000 But Mary pointed this out.

02:06:27.000 She was like, I guess the question just is, do you believe in the resurrection?

02:06:30.000 And I said, no.

02:06:31.000 Why not?

02:06:33.000 I have no evidence to believe that it's true.

02:06:36.000 I believe there's a God.

02:06:37.000 I believe Jesus existed.

02:06:40.000 But I don't just believe that he resurrected, I guess.

02:06:45.000 Or that he was the Messiah or the Son of God.

02:06:47.000 I think he was preaching good things, and from all of that came a tremendous great moral tradition.

02:06:56.000 But I don't know, you know?

02:06:58.000 Are you familiar with C.S. Lewis' kind of three-part conundrum about Jesus either being a liar, a lunatic, or telling the truth?

02:07:07.000 I believe I've heard this a long time ago, but refresh my memory.

02:07:10.000 Basically, his premise is, you know...

02:07:13.000 Basically, the premise is, as C.S. Lewis said, if you take at face value the things that Jesus is quoted as saying in the Gospels, he describes himself as both God and the Son of God and references all these prophecies in the Old Testament.

02:07:30.000 And he does teach a lot of good things like love your neighbor and the Beatitudes in Matthew 5, 6, 7. But he also says things that...

02:07:39.000 Where he claims to be God. 0.91

02:07:41.000 So either he's lying about being God, or he was a lunatic, like he thought he was God, but he wasn't, or he was telling the truth, and he actually is. 0.52

02:07:50.000 And this is based on the premise that you actually believe the things in the Bible that he actually said these things.

02:07:57.000 So that's kind of the situation that C.S. Lewis confronted in the 1930s and 40s of...

02:08:06.000 It was a pretty common occurrence.

02:08:08.000 G.K. Chesterton kind of tackled this, too, of liking a lot of the ramifications of Christianity, but not dealing with, like, well, the guy who started it said he was God.

02:08:18.000 Indeed. But I don't see a correlation.

02:08:22.000 I tell the story that I grew up Catholic.

02:08:27.000 My family left the church.

02:08:29.000 I guess the church offended our family and called us non-parishioners, and we went to church all the time, and we fundraised for them.

02:08:34.000 So not that my mom ever—

02:08:37.000 I don't know my dad's current beliefs.

02:08:41.000 My mom is still very much church-going and stuff.

02:08:43.000 But for me, as soon as I left, it was like, you're in an urban liberal environment.

02:08:46.000 You're out.

02:08:47.000 You're out.

02:08:48.000 The private school I went to, Catholic school, did nothing to actually answer any questions I had.

02:08:54.000 I do feel that... 0.50

02:08:56.000 As a Catholic, I can say that Catholic schools are horrible. 0.98

02:08:59.000 Yeah, it's unfortunate. 0.85

02:09:01.000 It's basically a public school with a Bible class.

02:09:03.000 It was...

02:09:05.000 It was good, but bad at teaching religion.

02:09:09.000 So it was much, much better than the public schools in the area.

02:09:12.000 But they didn't answer any questions ever. 0.95

02:09:14.000 And so they just, they intentionally made the religion ridiculous. 0.77

02:09:18.000 They showed us a video where Adam was riding a brontosaurus. 0.96

02:09:21.000 I'm not exaggerating.

02:09:23.000 To explain the dinosaurs, they showed us a video where Adam was riding a brontosaurus.

02:09:30.000 And they explained that when Noah's Ark happened, the dinosaurs were simply too big.

02:09:34.000 And the unicorns were too rambunctious.

02:09:37.000 I'm not kidding.

02:09:38.000 The unicorns?

02:09:39.000 The unicorns were running around and playing and refused to get on the Ark.

02:09:42.000 And the dinosaurs were just too large. 0.99

02:09:44.000 This is the kind of garbage they gave us. 0.98

02:09:46.000 And then my parents were like, unicorns aren't real. 1.00

02:09:48.000 And I was like, so they're lying to me? 1.00

02:09:50.000 And then I'm like, this is bullshit. 0.99

02:09:53.000 But when I was older, I met a guy who had a picture of Jesus on his wall. 0.99

02:09:57.000 And so this is my angsty 18-year-old atheist phase.

02:10:01.000 And I scoffed and I was like, what are you, like a Christian or something?

02:10:04.000 He's like, nah.

02:10:05.000 And I was like, then why do you have Jesus on your wall?

02:10:07.000 And he was like, I don't know, I just thought it was cool.

02:10:09.000 It was a story about a guy who went around helping people.

02:10:10.000 And I was like, that's actually a really good point.

02:10:15.000 I was like, I had this, that was when I realized I had this kind of emotional disdain that didn't actually attach to the man himself, but to the community that I felt was...

02:10:27.000 Like, growing up, the people who told me these things, that's who I had a problem with.

02:10:31.000 The people I felt weren't answering my questions, not the man himself and the story and the tradition and the history.

02:10:37.000 You sound like Martin Luther.

02:10:38.000 Is that what happened earlier?

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - April 22, 2025

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