Tim Pool Sues Kamala Harris For President, Defamation Lawsuit Filed w-Andrew Wilson | Timcast IRLTim Pool Sues Kamala Harris For President, Defamation Lawsuit Filed w-Andrew Wilson | Timcast IRL
Kamala Harris' campaign accused me of calling for extrajudicial execution of Donald Trump's political opponents, an egregious and psychotic lie. I have filed a defamation lawsuit against her campaign for defamation and defamation of my views on the matter. We discuss the filing and why I believe they know they are lying. Plus, Israel is accused of planting explosives in thousands of pagers, which all detonated at the same time, injuring thousands of Hezbollah fighters in Lebanon. David Muir's ratings are down massively, double digits, after the ABC News debate debacle. The indictment for Diddy is apparently very revealing.
00:00:40.000And we're going to break it down for you and then provide some commentary as to the arguments.
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00:03:57.000Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Andrew Wilson.
00:04:12.000You also probably see me a lot on the Whatever podcast.
00:04:15.000I argue with feminists on that platform quite a bit, sex workers, OnlyFans crazies, and lunatics of all stripes and degenerates from all abound.
00:04:23.000You will usually see me in opposition to them on some show somewhere on any given day.
00:04:28.000Before the show started, we had a great conversation about how Palpatine did nothing wrong.
00:04:47.000I'm just saying that Alderaan, okay, I'm so sick of hearing about how Alderaan, you know, was just, you know, just filled with people who were, you know, holding hands and this and that.
00:04:57.000It was clearly a planet which was harboring fugitives of justice, let's say.
00:06:01.000I'll give you the brief summary as it pertains to this lawsuit we have filed.
00:06:05.000For those that are just tuning in, I will give you the quick update once again, as this will also be a standalone segment.
00:06:10.000I am suing the Harris campaign for defaming me, for claiming that I had called for the extrajudicial execution of Donald Trump's political opponents and all of his voters who refused to support him.
00:06:27.000That I was a Trump operative with a Project 2025 plan calling for legal authorities beyond the scope of legal authorities that would allow Trump to jail and execute anyone who refuses to support him if he wins.
00:06:52.000With what's been going on with the attempted assassinations on Donald Trump, now multiple assassinations we're moving into, I have a feeling that there's going to be multiple more.
00:07:02.000It seems like once this kind of happens, you just can't quite put it back in.
00:07:07.000How does things like this, like the Harris campaign saying this about Tim Kast and you, not actually put your life in danger?
00:07:14.000I suppose I should probably read for you from here, which outlines some of these incidents.
00:07:19.000I will mention an individual showed up at one of our properties and the report that I was given, because I'm not there, because we're not there, was that an employee was physically attacked.
00:07:31.000So, the insanity that emerges when a presidential campaign claims that you as a podcast host want them to be executed, I think people really need to understand how shockingly insane that is, and the damage that comes with it.
00:07:45.000So, I do think it's important to point out as well, for me, I'm personally impacted by this, my business is impacted by this, my friends, my family, my security, and many, many other things.
00:07:56.000We have been sitting here Watching a corporate media apparatus as well as prominent politicians lie over and over about everything.
00:08:05.000I think they've crossed the line many, many times.
00:08:09.000Here's the filing, which I'll try to make it quick so we can talk more about the issues, but you get an understanding of where we're coming from.
00:08:14.000They mention that I'm a social media creator, independent journalist, interviewing many people such as Marianne Williamson, former Democratic presidential candidates.
00:08:22.000I cast my ballot for Barack Obama in 2008.
00:08:24.000I had endorsed Bernie Sanders in 2016, though I was not nearly as prominent, mind you.
00:08:28.000My views defy easy categorization on the left-right spectrum.
00:08:42.000They mention, I'm a critic of bailouts, financial interests, corporate power, I'm a civil libertarian.
00:08:47.000But let me go on to get to the meat and potatoes here.
00:08:51.000The filing says, in a post to the social media platform Axe, which has now been viewed more than 12 million times, the Harris campaign stated Mr. Poole is promoting a, quote, plan to give former President Trump total unchecked legal power so they can jail and execute those who don't support Trump if he wins.
00:09:08.000The Harris campaign did not hedge this statement or couch it as opinion, to the contrary.
00:09:12.000To any reasonable reader, the Harris campaign was saying that Mr. Poole wants to suspend the Constitution, make Trump a dictator, and use state power to imprison and kill Mr. Poole and President Trump's political opponents.
00:09:23.000According to the Harris campaign, then-Mr. Poole's plan is to imitate one of the hallmarks of the most abhorrent, murderous regimes of past and present.
00:09:30.000What the Harris campaign published was and is a lie.
00:09:33.000Mr. Poole has never advocated for the lawless extrajudicial killing of his or anyone else's political opponents.
00:09:39.000To include in the video clip, the Harris campaign incorporated to its ex-post.
00:09:43.000Both the clip and its context demonstrate Mr. Poole's commitment to civil liberties, which is consistent with his past criticism of drone strikes involving American citizens in the war on terrorism.
00:09:53.000Shocked by the Harris campaign's malicious disregard for the truth, Mr. Poole almost immediately threatened legal action, but the post and the deception it creates remains to this day.
00:10:02.000Mr. Poole welcomes debate and discussion from all sides of the political spectrum, including from Vice President Harris, Governor Walz, the Harris campaign.
00:10:09.000As part of his commitment to open discussion, Mr. Poole has even taken out advertisements above the very New York City streets he once walked to engage people who disagree with him, putting millions of dollars where his mouth is on the issue.
00:10:18.000But with the Harris campaign's lie still hovering over our democracy, Mr. Poole finds it more difficult to book guests with contrary views, including Democratic politicians and members of Congress.
00:10:28.000The reputational harm the Harris campaign inflicted on Mr. Poole will take millions of dollars to undo.
00:10:33.000At the same time, Mr. Poole is ramping up his security efforts as a shield against those who bought the Harris campaign's lie and might seek to do him and those he cares about harm.
00:10:42.000A recent incident suggests one man might have already been set off by the Harris campaign's false statement.
00:10:47.000As I mentioned, some crazy guy showed up to one of our properties.
00:11:04.000They'll attack people adjacent to you.
00:11:07.000There are neighbors next to this property, and I've gotten reports that these individuals are going on their properties, trying to sneak around.
00:11:33.000I have never, never advocated for the death penalty.
00:11:36.000I strongly oppose it and passionately argue against it, even in our members-only show, debating with people.
00:11:44.000Now, they go on to mention parties, jurisdiction, venue, etc.
00:11:47.000They go on to explain that the Kamala Harris campaign actually posts what they call fact checks on their ex-account.
00:11:54.000They actually state, you know, that they're correcting the record and things of this nature.
00:11:58.000They go on to mention several posts from me.
00:12:00.000Writing in thousands of hours of video and audio content, Mr. Poole detailed his views on the issues.
00:12:04.000I am anti-violence, anti-censorship, anti-corporatist, against mass centralization of power of any form, against illegal spying in the security state, against racism, fascism, war, Consistent with these views, Mr. Poole criticized Obama for his administration's use of drone strikes, such as those that led to the death of Abdulrahman Awlaki.
00:12:21.000And don't get me going, I rant on that one a lot.
00:12:24.000They go on to mention the Harris campaign operates an ex-account under the handle KamalaHQ.
00:12:29.000They mention that it displays fact checks, telling people that they're presenting them with the truth.
00:12:35.000They go on to mention the post in question, which includes, they have since scrubbed this video from YouTube.
00:12:41.000In the Body of the Post, which has been viewed more than 12 million times, the Harris campaign asserted that Poole is a Trump operative with a Project 2025 plan, with a plan to give Trump total unchecked legal power so they can jail and execute those who don't support Trump if he wins.
00:12:54.000Nothing short of lawless extrajudicial killings.
00:12:57.000The Harris campaign further asserted that Mr. Poole and his guests since scrubbed this video from YouTube falsely suggesting that Mr. Poole was or is trying to hide the video the Harris campaign incorporated while also revealing the in-depth research it did into Mr. Poole and his views.
00:13:16.000That in the filing, we present from the actual show, where it says, quote, at the 1 hour 26 minute mark, quote, Tim Pool, I oppose the death penalty.
00:13:30.000Quote, you're saying that when they are arrested, or when they are indicted, arrested, tried, and convicted, should they have been found guilty of treason by a jury of their peers, you say death penalty, which is the legal codification in this country.
00:13:41.000Media reporting immediately after the May 31st broadcast did not make such salacious false
00:13:45.000accusations against Mr. Poole. The website Mediite ran a story on the clip but focused on Ms. Loomer,
00:13:50.000who reported called for Democrats to be executed. They go on to mention, I believe that there's
00:13:55.000other timestamps that I want to make sure I can highlight.
00:13:58.000You were just clarifying her take? Like that's all that was going on?
00:14:02.000Was you were just clarifying her take?
00:14:04.000The core of this is that I believe it was Sean Davis of the Federalist who said I want to see a list of the Democrats that are going to be arrested when Trump wins.
00:14:13.000My point was I'm going to say it in the most correct and easy to understand context possible because You know, they're trying to spin what I'm saying.
00:14:22.000If you want to arrest anyone, be it Democrat or otherwise, there has to be real evidence, there has to be an actual indictment, there must be jury trials, there must be an opportunity, years in fact, for them to go through the evidence and fight this legal case, and should they be found guilty, and there should be trials, we will show the whole world what they did.
00:14:41.000They have clipped this out of context to remove everything I was saying as if I'm advocating for people to be arrested.
00:14:47.000To which I even say in the show, I do not think anyone's committed treason.
00:16:19.000The first time we get shut down, the police say we're coming in, what do they call it, exigent circumstance or something, and I said, I do not want the police coming on my property, this is a false, you know, the swatting, blah blah blah, and they refused to listen.
00:16:32.000So I'm, let's just say, perturbed over this.
00:16:45.000There's a different way it's handled that doesn't disrupt the show.
00:16:49.000There was an instance where one of the bomb hoaxes was deemed credible and we had to evacuate the studio for three hours with the live stream running.
00:16:58.000We had 40,000 people watching an empty room for three hours as the police kept us off our own property because of these things.
00:17:05.000So when someone shows up And the reports that I've gotten, I want to be very clear because I'm not there.
00:17:16.000What I've gotten reports from security and other individuals is that a crazy person was on the neighbor's property lurking around, spying on our old property, which is now effectively a private residence, unaffiliated with anything we're doing here.
00:17:31.000And then one day came with a camera And there's a big sign saying, no trespassing, walking right past it, walking up onto the property, filming things.
00:17:38.000And then the next day, something happened that resulted in, all I can say is, I don't know, I wasn't there, but I was told a police report was filed after this man assaulted one of our employees, leaving him injured, very lightly, but injured, like black eyes, is what I was told.
00:17:53.000And the police came and removed the man and told him he can't come back.
00:17:58.000And this is the kind of stuff that we deal with.
00:18:04.000I mean, the stuff that we see because the Harris campaign, I mean, look, I don't understand how How they could just publish this, this statement.
00:18:58.000And with the pace at which social media moves, they think they'll do the damage they need, but kind of be able to escape into the wilderness before anyone catches them.
00:19:46.000Defamation libel per se under West Virginia law.
00:19:49.000Mr. Poole re-alleges the foregoing paragraphs.
00:19:51.000The Harris campaign published a false statement that Mr. Poole is a Trump operative, that he has a Project 2025 plan, that he wants to give Trump total unchecked legal power to jail and execute those who don't support Trump if he wins.
00:20:02.000Those statements were and are false, because Mr. Poole never said such a thing in the incorporated video, and has never said such a thing previously.
00:20:09.000The content the Harris campaign clipped cannot be reasonably construed to support the claims made in the post at issue or from Mr. Poole's prior statements and conduct.
00:20:17.000The Harris campaign cast its statement as fact, not opinion.
00:20:21.000Accusations that Mr. Poole endorses lawlessness, executions, and extrajudicial killings harm his reputation and standing in his chosen career and profession.
00:20:30.000The Harris campaign published its statement on X to tens of thousands of third parties.
00:20:34.000The Harris campaign's statement damaged Mr. Poole.
00:20:37.000The Harris campaign exhibited actual malice by claiming that Mr. Poole supported lawlessness and extrajudicial killings when he made no such claim and despite the campaign's apparent research into Mr. Poole and his views.
00:20:50.000Re-alleging the Harris campaign misconduct described previously herein was at all times carried out in bad faith, vexatiously, wantonly, and for oppressive reasons.
00:21:00.000Mr. Poole is damaged by the Harris campaign's bad faith misconduct, as previously described
00:21:03.000herein in addition to his expenditures for the prosecution of this cause of action, which
00:21:07.000is necessary to clear Mr. Poole's name and restore his reputation.
00:21:11.000Harris campaign's bad faith misconduct triggers the state's exception to the American rule
00:21:15.000for payment of attorney's fees as described in I'm not going to read the case law.
00:21:19.000There's campaigns pre litigation misconduct likewise triggers the exception to the American
00:21:22.000rule for payment of attorney's fees described in and once again, case law.
00:21:27.000Therefore Mr. Poole respectively praises court awards Mr. Poole all cognizable damages, awards
00:21:32.000Mr. Poole his attorney's fees and costs, orders the Harris campaign to retract the original
00:21:37.000defamatory publication in the same forums and broadcast media and in the same prominence
00:21:41.000originally published and any other relief against the Harris campaign the court deems
00:21:46.000Mr. Poole requests a jury trial on all issues so triable, respectively submitted this 17th day.
00:21:52.000September 2024. And shout out to James Lawrence, who is representing me in this matter.
00:21:57.000Well, what does that mean, though, the damages? Like, how much do you think you're going to ask
00:22:01.000for here? I don't know if I'm allowed to talk about that.
00:22:03.000Okay. Yeah, I don't know. All that's in the filing is what I can say is it mentions in the
00:22:09.000filing. I want to make sure I get this right.
00:22:12.000So I'm going to search it because I don't want it to be for me.
00:22:14.000It says, let's see, millions of dollars were spent in ads.
00:22:21.000It will take millions of dollars to undo.
00:22:24.000I want to clarify too, as much as I can, you know, for anybody who's listening, we There are a lot of people who file lawsuits where they're like, I want a million, hundred million dollars or whatever.
00:22:43.000And we are going to be completely reasonable and approach this in every legitimate and reasonable way possible as to what our costs are for a business with 40 employees and, you know, with what happened at external locations, security costs, et cetera, as well as I forgot what it's called, but there's a specific term for marketing you have to undertake to try and counter certain messages.
00:23:06.000There's obviously a lot more if you were to go through the whole thing.
00:23:09.000I didn't read everything, but I assume those who cover the story later on, assuming they do, I don't know, will probably be able to pull up.
00:23:15.000What's the principle behind the jury trial?
00:23:17.000Is that just what your lawyers recommended that you do?
00:23:32.000And we're going to have to wait to see what ends up with this and all that stuff.
00:23:35.000But I want to make sure that for the sake of respect for the courts and the process,
00:23:40.000obviously I will talk about this as I have an absolute need to defend my reputation.
00:23:45.000Many prominent leftist personalities are using these clips the Harris campaign posted out of context to defame me and lie about my views.
00:23:53.000We every day are reaching out to personalities across the board and it becomes increasingly difficult to bring people on when they receive Look, we try to book a liberal to come on the show and they're getting threats and intimidation from other liberals.
00:24:08.000There was a YouTuber who reviewed Am I Racist by Matt Walsh.
00:24:53.000They launched lawsuits against states for erecting border walls because the Kamala campaign refused to do it.
00:25:00.000They claim they're opposed to sex changes for minors while they sue the state of Tennessee for banning sex changes for minors.
00:25:07.000I mean, this is the most litigious administration.
00:25:09.000In this regard, I will just say, This filing is about an egregious lie that has damaged me, my business, has put us at security risk as we've already experienced.
00:25:22.000It was only a couple days after this post came out that this guy shows up and is lurking around one of my properties, putting my staff at risk.
00:25:31.000I will say, I have long told people you have to stand up and fight back, and it's very, very difficult.
00:25:37.000I have long been a huge fan of James O'Keefe, who says, be brave.
00:25:40.000And so when I am personally faced with something so shockingly damning, insane, and damaging, I absolutely will do whatever it takes to defend my name, my honor, my reputation, and seek every legal remedy to resolve Well, strategically, are you worried about backlash from the Kamala and Democrat campaigns?
00:26:02.000So, for instance, there is a chance, and it's a very good chance, in fact, that Kamala Harris is the next president.
00:26:09.000And, you know, the Democrats have not been known Uh, throughout the Trump years and then the Biden years of not taking revenge on basically anybody who's around, Tim.
00:26:19.000I just wanted to point this out, right?
00:26:20.000Anybody who has been a thorn in their side in any degree, uh, they kind of, you know, throw them in prison and lock away the key.
00:26:26.000And in many cases, crawl up their ass with a microscope.
00:26:29.000I'm just asking like, are you a little worried about any kind of backlash from this?
00:26:46.000And this matter, we – I can comment on other extraneous political matters as we wrap up this segment, which we will wrap up now and move on to the next story.
00:26:56.000And perhaps there will be some other issue that is perhaps involving similar questions.
00:27:02.000I don't want to comment in any way that construes the purpose of this lawsuit is simply to seek remedy for the defamation.
00:28:09.000The idea that people will use restraint against their political opponents, that's a thing of the past.
00:28:16.000Well, if there is any concern or if you'd like to support our work and you think we should be standing up for ourselves and pushing back against lies and manipulations, become a member at TimCast.com.
00:28:28.000This one's going to be going to be difficult.
00:28:32.000Many people don't have the resources to defend themselves.
00:28:36.000And even those who do, it is draining and puts great risk in terms of the great cost.
00:28:42.000To stand up for yourself when something as powerful as a billion dollar political machine says something so shockingly egregious.
00:28:49.000So I hope that there is a quick and speedy resolution and I'll leave it there.
00:28:54.000Let's jump to the next story, ladies and gentlemen.
00:28:56.000From the post-millennial, David Muir's World News Tonight viewership drops 12% following ABC presidential debate bias scandal.
00:29:06.000The show averaged 6.7 million viewers Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday, which were the three episodes immediately following the debate.
00:29:11.000Before the debate, his show was averaging 7.6 million viewers.
00:29:16.000He dropped over 900,000 average viewers following the scandal.
00:29:21.000According to Fox News, those are the numbers, that was the decline we saw.
00:29:26.000Muir and co-moderator Lindsay Davis were criticized for fact-checking Trump on stage numerous times while not issuing any for Harris.
00:29:33.000Namely, I think the most offensive is that she said there's no U.S.
00:29:37.000troops in any active combat zone, and they didn't fact-check her.
00:29:39.000Yeah, did you see Jim Banks today fact-checked that, and he put out a video that he got from U.S.
00:29:45.000servicemen in active combat, and I thought that was pretty wild, because that was an insane lie.
00:29:52.000And she should know that, and if she wants to be the commander-in-chief of the military, she should know where our guys are.
00:29:56.000Right, and if she doesn't know it, then she shouldn't be in charge of the military, because she's clueless.
00:30:01.000Well, that whole thing was biased, but I mean, I just read, I think this was on the Drudge Report earlier, that there was a document which came out that said that ABC behind the scenes was talking about this.
00:30:13.000They were discussing ways that they were going to be fact-checking Yeah, that was in an LA Times interview with Lindsay Davis, and she said specifically that after the June 27th debate with Biden, they decided specifically to fact-check Trump as much as they could because they didn't appreciate what he'd said, you know, pushing Biden out of the race, apparently.
00:30:32.000I'd like to welcome this 12% of viewers to come watch TimCast IRL, where we break down the news.
00:31:29.000Do you think, like, from the practical perspective, though, that we shouldn't jump to the conclusion that this is something which is going to stay steady, that this could just be some immediate backlash, and, you know, these numbers could rebound fairly easily?
00:31:43.000This is pretty, like, this is pretty close after this debacle, so there's a good chance, you know, people have very limited memories, this type of thing.
00:31:51.000I would argue if it does rebound, then what we're seeing is just political fatigue.
00:31:55.000People are like, I am so tired of this, put on something else.
00:31:58.000However, if this is because that debate was very poorly run, these 12% are probably turning on some other channel.
00:32:08.000And the habit's not going to just change back.
00:32:10.000They're not going to go, I don't know, I kind of watch Muir again.
00:32:13.000I think once you're in the downward spiral, it's much harder to climb out.
00:35:01.000And the difference between the way Bash treats Vance and the way Bash kowtowed to Kamala Harris and Tim Walz is actually pretty shocking to the point where J.D.
00:35:10.000Vance points it out and says, you know, when you were interviewing Kamala Harris, You gave her multiple choice policy questions, and I'd appreciate it if you let me answer a question.
00:35:46.000When he was like, we need to talk about fatherlessness in the black community.
00:35:49.000Something that I think is deeply personal to me.
00:35:51.000And I, you know, I think people have, I was, it's just like, there's this famous video where he talks about how he wants to help the black community, but it's these very practical way, things that like talking about, you know, helping homes, helping education.
00:36:03.000And now he's this guy who was like, it's all about racism and white supremacy.
00:36:07.000Like his worldview inverted overnight.
00:36:11.000You know, it's sad to see, but I also have a question in this.
00:36:15.000How does an individual's worldview change on a dime like that?
00:36:20.000Well, it's really, the answer is fear.
00:36:23.000So the thousands of Democrats that I've talked to and progressives, They are legitimately terrified of Donald Trump.
00:36:31.000I mean, they're actually terrified of him and his supporters.
00:36:35.000They honestly do believe that you're a fascist.
00:36:37.000They honestly do believe that you're a criminal if you support Trump, that you support a criminal, that Trump tried to coup against the United States.
00:36:53.000You try to put yourself in their position.
00:36:55.000If you thought the President of the United States had tried to coup, and was trying to bring in a government which was against every value that you had, and if he was elected again, that was it for you.
00:37:04.000You were gonna, you know, off to the gulags with you.
00:37:26.000They look in the mirror and they see a funhouse image of reality.
00:37:29.000Take for instance, I'm absolutely loving the cat in Ohio story because Chris Rufo found a video from one year ago, before there was a controversy or scandal, of cats on a grill.
00:37:41.000And a man saying, holy crap, they barbecuing cats.
00:37:45.000And you hear a woman go, they got a cat on the grill?
00:37:47.000And then it's an amazing video because there's a cat walking around and he gets like, man, look at that cat.
00:37:51.000You better get missin' your homies at the grill!
00:39:00.000You guys weren't even talking about any of this before we brought it up.
00:39:03.000And now, actually, these problems are getting some attention.
00:39:06.000And one thing that he said that I thought was particularly compelling, you know, which is probably sort of obvious, but was actually compelling, is he said, I'm listening to my constituents.
00:40:01.000But yeah, but this is not common inside of major metropolitan areas or inside of towns and inside of cities, for people to go to the local pond, kill the geese, and grill them up.
00:40:14.000And the fact that you would try to kind of convince me that that's normal, because guys out in the country, sometimes they'll poach, is insane.
00:41:23.000And so that is not a good enough debunking of the claim.
00:41:29.000There are a lot of domestic political stories that I want to get into too, especially this OhioCat story is crazy, but we gotta jump to this one from the New York Times.
00:41:37.000Israel planted explosives in pagers sold to Hezbollah, officials say.
00:41:44.000I am so far beyond, like, this is so far beyond belief.
00:41:48.000The first thing I want to say is when I was live this morning when the first reports came in, someone super chatted my morning show saying, Israel just hacked and detonated pagers of thousands of Hezbollah soldiers.
00:42:09.000Now, at the time, we did not know if it was Israel.
00:42:12.000They'd remained silent, but the speculation was.
00:42:14.000The New York Times has a headline now that officials say Israel did, in fact, do this.
00:42:20.000They say small amounts of explosive were implanted in beepers that Hezbollah had ordered from a Taiwanese company, according to American and other officials briefed on the operation.
00:42:31.000I can only just say, holy crap, the videos are insane.
00:43:10.000How did Israel intercept this order before it was shipped to Hezbollah?
00:43:16.000Why was Hezbollah ordering pagers from Taiwan, a US ally?
00:43:20.000I mean, this whole story is absolutely crazy.
00:43:22.000I mean, what I think is crazy, and we're talking about this a little bit before the show, it's almost like Israel is trolling them because they specifically use pagers.
00:43:31.000Now, I can't say why they chose Taiwan, but they use pagers because it's lo-fi, because they don't they don't they know
00:43:36.000that Israel will hack their cell phones.
00:43:38.000And it's a way of trying to avoid detection.
00:43:40.000But obviously, Israel is clearly saying you can't escape us.
00:43:46.000And I just don't I don't think it's going to deescalate from
00:43:50.000this. Not sure. I mean, trolling, I guess, to a degree.
00:43:53.000To me, it just looks like good psychological warfare.
00:43:56.000So the idea is to create panic in the enemy, you're never safe, anywhere, under any circumstances, even your own pager we can make kill you.
00:44:06.000Now I have to tell you, from a strategic viewpoint, if I was, you know, taking a bird's eye view to this, that's a really good play!
00:44:13.000Making a person's pager blow up their friend is a really, really good way to instill in the enemy, you are never safe from us.
00:44:41.000This was a tremendously brilliant strategy on Israel's part for how to have effectively a mass simultaneous decentralized attack grid on Hezbollah soldiers.
00:44:52.000I am not a big fan of the tactic however.
00:44:55.000The idea, I would say this, I don't, I'm not a big fan of collateral damage.
00:45:00.000And so I can respect the brilliance of the strategy, the operation.
00:45:31.000But understand that our enemies, the enemies of Israel, whatever, I'm not saying they're the same enemies, I'm saying Israel's enemies, we have enemies, they don't care about what we think the rules are.
00:45:41.000And so the only thing I can say is, I don't want to be involved in Israel's war and conflicts, Lebanon, Iran, or otherwise.
00:45:48.000I don't know that we have an exit because our establishment leaders have already entangled us in this for generations.
00:45:55.000In which case, man... And the Israeli lobby is extremely powerful.
00:46:12.000So the only thing I can say on the surface is, while I obviously condemn war and violence, the strategy was of such an intelligent and extremely capable caliber, I am shocked and impressed by it.
00:46:30.000But I gotta stress, like, Israel, man, they are not to be trifled with.
00:46:33.000Well, not only that, but, I mean, my pushback would be kind of the same, I know we were discussing this earlier, but my pushback here is kind of the same, that I do legitimately think, inside of warfare, that the civilian population is the population which feeds the soldiers, it is the population which makes the bullets, it is the population which makes the bombs, etc., etc.
00:46:53.000I have never been of mind, from a strategic standpoint, that civilian population centers would be off the table inside of warfare.
00:47:01.000Well, that was sort of Castro's idea, is that his revolution could not succeed without the help of the civilian population.
00:49:03.000And, uh, I remember reading a very funny, uh, opinion piece, movie review.
00:49:08.000And it's like, aha, how funny, the aliens come and attack Earth, and then they succumb to illness, they end up dying or whatever.
00:49:15.000And it said, the reality is that if any alien force had the capability to come to Earth, they would immediately target our oil fields and the entire world would shut down within two or three days.
00:49:46.000Real war is going to be like what we see in the Middle East with ISIS, when a suicide bomber runs into a daycare or something and just knows they're going to hit us, they're going to hit our allies where it hurts.
00:49:58.000Barack Obama, here we go, you ready for this one?
00:50:00.000Killed Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, a 16-year-old American citizen, in a drone strike in Yemen.
00:50:06.000The drone targeted a civilian restaurant.
00:50:09.000It killed more, my understanding is more than just Abdulrahman Al-Awlaki, who is a 16-year-old from, I believe he was born in Boulder, Colorado, lived in San Diego.
00:50:16.000The official response was, they had been targeting an al-Qaeda leader, and they had bad intel.
00:50:26.000Anwar al-Awlaki, his dad, was also killed in a drone strike, and this man was an American citizen.
00:50:31.000The argument that was made by the Uniparty establishment was that Anwar was an enemy of this country, was a jihadi rallying people to fight against us, and therefore he was an enemy combatant.
00:50:45.000The Constitution still protects that someone who is an American citizen will get charged, will get a trial, and not just be blown up in war.
00:50:50.000If, however, someone is actively in a combat zone and they're attacking you, I don't think such a premise is reasonable.
00:50:58.000That being said, I don't believe for a second the killing of a son was an accident.
00:51:02.000I believe, in my opinion, purely my opinion, the Obama administration said, we're going to send a message to Al-Qaeda, we're going to send a message to Iran, kill his kid.
00:51:13.000I believe that the Obama administration intentionally targeted a civilian restaurant in a country we're not at war with to kill the child of a jihadi so that all of these people would know the United States is not above killing your children if you fight against us.
00:55:05.000If you're born and you live in the middle of the woods, there are things you can do.
00:55:08.000You can hunt for food, you can defend yourself, you can speak freely.
00:55:10.000Now, what we've done in the United States... Unless you're born blind and you can't talk, right?
00:55:15.000Then where does your right to speak come from?
00:55:17.000You lack the ability to speak, but you still have the means by which you are allowed to do it.
00:55:22.000Yeah, but what makes it an intrinsic right to be able to do?
00:55:25.000Like, where does this idea come from other than you axiomatically kind of just say, you say, because I can do something, I have the right to do something?
00:55:34.000It's part of an evolutionary biological structure that resulted in the survival So if I, like, grab a spear and I can stab somebody with it, I have a right to?
00:57:25.000Self-defense can result in expansion of humanity if you're using destruction for the purpose of ending something that is destructive.
00:57:30.000But if you are wantonly going around murdering people, you're actively reducing and harming humanity.
00:57:35.000Well, okay, but that doesn't mean that you couldn't expand humanity by harming people.
00:57:39.000There's nations that do this all the time.
00:57:41.000So the argument of self-defense is, there are things that we believe we must be able to do for the betterment and survival of humanity.
00:57:47.000Yeah, but when I'm asking you this question, right, I'm asking the foundation from which you say, I have the right to speak or write or things like this.
00:57:57.000We need to be able to in order to survive.
00:58:22.000Again, again, I don't think you understand.
00:58:23.000We're talking about intrinsic behaviors that are required for survival versus the government and humans deciding what we shouldn't have in our lives.
00:58:29.000I don't think we're speaking past each other.
00:59:44.000I'm saying that the reason we have protections of rights is because we've determined certain things are required for the reasonable survival and expansion of humanity.
00:59:55.000I agree we agree to those things, and we act as though they're rights, but I don't think rights themselves exist.
01:00:02.000The Bill of Rights is a recognition of certain things that we do for the betterment of survival that must be protected from government.
01:00:09.000Now if you want to argue the amendments in the Bill of Rights are nonsensical, fine.
01:00:12.000If you want to have a moral argument or philosophical argument about what is required or intrinsic to the survival of humanity, by all means have that argument.
01:00:19.000But rights do exist, it just means some you might not agree with and some you might think aren't.
01:00:24.000Yeah, but when you say exist, right, do you mean outside of your brain they exist, or do they only exist as a construction of your mind where you say, I have a right to do X?
01:00:35.000If we observe creatures in the wild, we will see them required to do things to survive.
01:00:40.000Yeah, okay, so... If you inhibit those things, they will die.
01:00:42.000So if just rights to you... We protect those things.
01:00:45.000So rights to you just mean things which are a requirement for your existence?
01:00:50.000And typically we define them as such because they transcend the basic obvious things like breathing and drinking water.
01:00:56.000Owning a gun isn't a requirement to your existence.
01:01:00.000If a bear comes in the middle of the woods and you don't have the ability to defend yourself, you cease to exist and humans cease to exist.
01:01:05.000So humans do defend themselves, then as human society we've decided this should be protected otherwise humans will cease to exist.
01:01:14.000So if all right is to you, Tim, is Thing X, which is necessary for the survival of a man.
01:01:21.000In this case, blinking and breathing and eating and, you know, pooping and whatever.
01:01:25.000The right to poop should not be under, you know, because you have a right to do that, because it's like something you need to do to be alive.
01:01:31.000Right, but you can't poop on someone's floor.
01:01:32.000Why couldn't you extend that to literally everything?
01:01:36.000You need guns to survive, you need a house to survive, you need everything to survive.
01:01:42.000I think we should move on, but I think the challenge is, I don't know if you're unwilling to understand or what, you have no right to take other things from other people, to take their labor, you have no right to force a doctor to perform surgery on you, but you certainly have a right to ask him for it.
01:01:55.000Those are just assertions, like you just assert these things as No, they have a grounding epistemic foundation from which you can make the assertion.
01:02:03.000Based on where do you make the assertion that you're not allowed to do X other than because Tim Pool's preference is that you don't?
01:02:12.000And I'm literally saying you're talking about laws and social order right now, not human behaviors for survival.
01:02:16.000I think human behaviors are laws and social orders.
01:03:00.000I think that you can say that everyone has these rights, and it's a function of whether or not their government allows the rights to be recognized.
01:03:26.000In the big picture of what are the list of fundamental rights that exist to humans, cultures debate these things wildly, but there are a small handful which are true and correct.
01:03:37.000But what I'm saying, I guess my overarching point, and I can just kind of tie it off with this.
01:03:42.000Is that when I say rights are force, what I'm saying is the thing that you say is necessary, breathing, eating, these types of things.
01:03:48.000I think that those things, which you call rights, really are just force.
01:03:53.000You're saying I will use force in order to do this thing that I want to do to necessarily exist.
01:03:58.000And that another person can use force to stop those things from existing.
01:04:03.000And then you can use force to stop them.
01:04:04.000Right, and then you can use force, etc., etc., but all we're really doing is just moving the goalposts of force around, right?
01:04:10.000So if this group says, this group does not have the right to breathe, they do not have the right to eat, they do not have the right to do any of this shit, and they go and put a stop to it, what are we appealing to for why it is that you can't do that?
01:04:21.000That group doesn't have the right to do that.
01:04:25.000Why wouldn't they have the right to do that?
01:04:27.000You're saying might makes right, which is what it makes.
01:04:30.000Beyond that, I think you're making a post-modernist argument for why you should be allowed to do things that other people don't want you to do.
01:04:35.000I think you—well, no, I think the opposite is true.
01:04:37.000I'm making— I would use the justification of God And I would appeal to something which is unchanging, and an unchanging standard for moral justifications for oughts.
01:04:47.000But what you're doing, when you say a right, and you're appealing to, like, the Constitution, that's postmodernist, subjective standards of nonsense, right?
01:04:56.000It's just like— No, it's moral foundations.
01:04:57.000We all decided that we have these rights, so we do.
01:05:00.000There's no justification for any of them.
01:05:02.000So you don't believe any intrinsic moral foundations?
01:06:57.000Hang on, this is divine command justification.
01:07:00.000Divine command has nothing to do with libertarian nonsense of constitutional egalitarianism.
01:07:06.000Having a discussion on the merits of what rights might mean, you're instead upset over what libertarians think rights might mean as opposed to what I'm actually trying to say.
01:07:13.000Okay, well, do you justify rights as coming from God?
01:07:24.000So then if that is the case, if whatever you think rights are come from God, then whatever else we're appealing to external to God for where a right comes from isn't really a right, right?
01:07:54.000If there's a mass murderer who's murdering children, we unfortunately, we don't want to, but we stop that person to defend ourselves and others' lives.
01:08:01.000I think that there is divine mandate, that we must be fruitful, multiply.
01:08:08.000There's a secular way of looking at it.
01:08:09.000It's evolution that developed us to this point where we have internalized these things that we must do, or that result in a more efficient way of life.
01:08:16.000Or, more simply, there is a God, there is a divine structure and mandate, which results in certain things that are beneficial to mankind, that I would describe as good and just, and there are things that are evil and unjust.
01:08:27.000So as we get to the heart of it then, right here, where we come to this agreement, Where I reject this is that I think all the things you just stated are duties.
01:08:38.000I just think we're having a semantic argument.
01:08:40.000But semantics are super important so we don't speak past each other.
01:08:43.000So when I say a duty, it's an obligation to do a thing based on the fact that you're commanded to, in this case by God.
01:08:49.000A right, I would say, is an entitlement absent duty.
01:08:52.000So if that's the case, What you're listing out is like, God is giving us these duties to do.
01:08:58.000I'm not sure what rights he's giving you.
01:09:00.000I'm saying there are certain behaviors that God...
01:09:06.000That there are certain behaviors, there are certain functions of life that are a component of God's divine plan mandate.
01:09:15.000I could argue it in a secular way for people who don't believe in God or whatever.
01:09:18.000There's a natural structure of the universe that says to humans, be fruitful and multiply, and these things are important for the efficient structure of such.
01:09:26.000That being said, we definitely should talk about Diddy, but I do appreciate it.
01:09:37.000Sean Diddy Combs to be held without bail in sex trafficking case, says the judge.
01:09:43.000Combs, 54, did not visibly react as a Manhattan Federal Magistrate Judge Robin Tarnovsky remanded him into custody following a nearly two-hour long hearing where he sat without handcuffs at the defense table wearing a black shirt and dark gray sweatpants, blah blah blah.
01:09:57.000Okay, so here's what everyone wants to know.
01:09:59.000They found like a thousand bottles of lube or something?
01:10:06.000Did you listen to the press conference on this?
01:10:09.000I caught a clip of it and it's one of these things that's just the more he talked the more ridiculous it got like one of the accusations is that he's involved with basically sex trafficking and there are like professionals from males and females who were forced to like perform in hours long Freak offs where he was like them with ketamine and all
01:10:29.000this stuff and he flew them across state lines, huh?
01:10:32.000It's like Elliot Spitzer which makes it, you know trap like a transportation for the purpose of prostitution and he had
01:10:38.000them do all of These crazy things. Yeah, I think it's every time the guy
01:10:41.000would just be like so these freak offs Freak offs what I kept thinking too was like
01:10:48.000You know all of the songs about like I'm a pimp or whatever and it's like oh like for real
01:10:54.000It wasn't you like posturing you were like, no, I have really your jam. Yeah crazy
01:10:59.000It's also one of these things here. It's like I I don't, you know, you see those pages in like tabloids where they're like, celebrities are just like us.
01:11:30.000I mean, it was like going back to 2003 or something.
01:11:33.000There were videos, but I mean, it all started, I think, when he settled with his ex-girlfriend and then a whole bunch of other women were like, me too.
01:11:43.000And his attorneys will argue that the law in New York changed so that it expanded the time frame which these complaints could be brought against him.
01:11:50.000So his ex-girlfriend Cassidy brought a complaint against him.
01:12:15.000Yeah, he has like another house or something.
01:12:16.000Well, I was in the Fresh and Fit studio when that originally broke with the kind of idea That, okay, now the girlfriend is working with the feds, and they're collecting evidence, and it was kind of expected even then, this was months ago, that this was going to happen, right?
01:12:31.000The prediction was, okay, this guy's likely going to get arrested and tried for this, and it looks like there is actually some there there.
01:12:36.000That's why he moved back to New York, in order to be on hand.
01:12:40.000In order to be on hand, and he figured, like, if I'm in New York, and they arrest me, they'll let me out on bail, and it'll be fine, and instead he was remanded without bail.
01:12:49.000They're saying, people are all tweeting that he's going to get Epstein'd.
01:12:52.000Well, I don't know why they'd want to do that, because then they would lose the guy that they're trying to, you know, yell at and convict.
01:12:58.000And I assume they're going to name other people.
01:12:59.000Maybe it's because, like with Epstein, he has a big client list that might involve some powerful people, and they don't want that list to be revealed.
01:13:06.000And so Diddy's music, just to have some powerful friends on it.
01:13:56.000He did, but he also was like, well, we have to be cautious, though, because there's some names which may be on the list that, you know, it could be a fraud or it could be this, so we have to be cautious.
01:14:14.000Well, I remember when we were at the old studio, do you remember this?
01:14:16.000A huge trove of documents had been released.
01:14:18.000Not like a list, but just documents related.
01:14:20.000And we're reading through it, and it mentions what we assume is Prince Andrew, and then another unnamed prince.
01:14:26.000And we were all sort of like, who is this person?
01:14:29.000So I totally believe that there are people on that list that the US government is like, Bringing this person to light will have serious diplomatic consequences.
01:14:36.000I could understand that level of caution.
01:14:38.000On the other hand, at what point are you actually just covering up for people you're not actually being cautious for national security?
01:14:45.000If, let's say you're an investigator, you're a prosecutor, and you're looking at Dainty and he's staring at you, he's got this grim look on his face, and then he pulls up his phone and he slides you a video of Seven powerful world leaders from various countries and they're all engaging in some extremely, let's just say, human rights violations that could remove them from power, shock the country and result in destabilization of regions, potentially cause conflicts and wars.
01:15:14.000Maybe it's like I don't know, like a religious leader from one country with a religious leader from another country of opposing religions having a homosexual relationship or something.
01:15:24.000And you're like, okay, what they're doing is a crime in the United States.
01:15:28.000If we bring this evidence to court, and it somehow gets released, these countries may start, they go to war.
01:15:36.000Do you then say, you know, do you take the moral absolutist position of we don't compromise, the criminal must be brought to justice, or, you know, it's kind of like... I would do, so I would look at it... Rorschach or Dr. Manhattan?
01:15:50.000I absolutely think this happens often, where powerful people, perhaps not in Diddy's case, but people who engage in this type of trafficking, things like this, do end up with powerful people from other nations on video.
01:16:15.000Of course, I would say, okay, well, wait, if I have seven world leaders, like you said in your scenario, there's seven world leaders over here, and I have sex tapes on all of you.
01:16:52.000There's a great book, I think we talked about last time I was on, One Nation Under Blackmail.
01:16:58.000It's not only a fantastic book, but the idea is here that politics runs off of blackmail and it runs off of bribes, it runs off of all this.
01:17:08.000But blackmail specifically, we found something on you.
01:17:13.000Don't worry though, this all goes away if you do blank.
01:17:17.000This happens, I think, daily, all over the world in all sorts of politics.
01:17:21.000And it definitely happens here in the United States as well.
01:17:24.000And if I was the government and I got a hold of these Epstein files and tapes and things like this, and I could go to the enemies of my nation and say, or even just kind of allies who aren't doing what I want and say, Hey, look, you want this released?
01:18:03.000You know, I love this story, by the way, because y'all who watch the show quite frequently for me say, but at Occupy Wall Street, they have the General Assembly.
01:18:09.000They're all trying to decide what their demands are going to be.
01:18:29.000But the reason I bring this up is that If you're a world leader and you're like, we need to reduce energy costs so we're going to have to frack, then you get a guy screaming at you, you're destroying the world.
01:18:38.000If you stop fracking, then you get everyone else screaming, our prices are going up, what are you doing to us?
01:18:41.000There's no simple solution to appeasing the people.
01:18:53.000So if everything in politics is a trade-off, and I think it probably is, then we're just trying to make the best trades that we possibly can, the best day trades, right?
01:19:01.000We're gonna take from this and give to this, or we're gonna take away from this to give to that, or, you know, in this case, like you said, Mother Earth's gonna suffer if we frack, but on the other hand, if we don't frack, Grandma might die because she can't get heat.
01:19:15.000So the question becomes, what is the least bad choice that I can make which affects the least amount of people?
01:19:21.000I don't really even know if there's a better way to govern than that.
01:19:47.000And duties do take consequences into account.
01:19:50.000I think what you're talking about, instead of utilitarianism or consequentialism, it would be more like threshold deontology.
01:19:56.000So the idea would just be, okay, we do the dutiful thing until, you know, there's some threshold, and then we switch over to this thing, right?
01:20:05.000So we have a duty to uphold your rights.
01:20:09.000Unless upholding them would cause so much problem for so many people that we can't... Exactly.
01:20:16.000So the argument is, you know, deontological morals, you cannot take a single immoral action against an individual, regardless of the greater consequences, versus utilitarianism, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, dramatically oversimplifying.
01:20:28.000But the issue then is, at a federal level, if there is a single individual—and there's difficult scenarios, too, involved in, would you harm the rights of an individual to protect the greater of society?
01:20:41.000Most civilizations will do it, because— But that's deontological, too.
01:20:47.000So if you're looking at duty, you could say that you have a duty to protect lives, you know, if it's going to save more lives, right?
01:20:55.000It just depends on perspective and how you're crafting it.
01:20:58.000It's this question of, you know, there's probably, if you gave me time, I could craft a very nuanced scenario that would boggle the philosophical minds of how to handle... You could just use the trolley problem, right?
01:21:14.000If you're at a government level and you're talking about killing one person and saving, like, the Charlie problem of one person versus five, most people are like, I don't want to touch anything.
01:21:31.000And so I think, you know, most people are probably going to be like the end of the world or one person.
01:21:36.000But this means that you're willing to sacrifice an innocent person for the needs of the many outweighing the needs of the few.
01:21:41.000The real question is just how many is too many and how many is too few?
01:21:46.000I think there are a lot of circumstances in government Where there are ethically and morally gray areas that result in harm and good at the same time, and there is no yes or no, right or wrong.
01:21:59.000It's just, what's the best, least damaging thing we can do?
01:22:03.000But it does result in a mass negative to a person who didn't deserve it.
01:22:06.000And so that's what I mean, like, at a large scale, a large enough scale, there's no real way to try and protect the rights of every single person.
01:22:41.000If you're in government and you're the king, you're either the unilateral dictator or you're like a part of a body.
01:22:48.000Really, the only thing you can do is do trade-offs.
01:22:52.000I read that academic story a long time ago, and it said, on average, any society or country, regardless of its state, sees an average of 17% dissent, no matter what the state is, because it's impossible for everybody to agree on the form and function of government.
01:23:09.000Plus, there's a lot of people who just really like to be contrary.
01:23:12.000They want to fight the machine or whatever.
01:23:47.000She says in every single restaurant, the people willing to talk to us, we could only find one Harris supporter in every restaurant.
01:23:55.000So they went to a bunch, and they could find only a single person in Nevada.
01:24:01.000I gotta say, I think this sends a good message to Nate Silver.
01:24:05.000Nate Silver has Trump favored to win the election, winning Nevada, and you look at all these polls and they're like, no, Kamala Harris is going to win in these states or that state or whatever.
01:24:13.000I think this shows us that I think Nate Silver may be more likely to be correct.
01:24:20.000We will see, but I also want to just add, for everybody at home watching this, I want you to, you know, get real cozy on your couch with a blanket or whatever and just feel that smug within you that CBS desperately tried to find Kamala Spores and could not.
01:24:36.000Well it's interesting, I wonder if I can get your take on two things here.
01:24:40.000So the first one is, With Kamala Harris, are the Democrats once again putting way too much stock in Zoomers and younger... They're doing it again, right?
01:24:51.000It only worked with Obama, and it didn't work ever before, and I don't think it's really working... Because all the trends, TikTok, this and that, you know, everything is blowing up for Kamala.
01:24:59.000But are you putting too much faith again that the young people are going to come out and vote?
01:25:02.000They're not going to come out and vote.
01:27:06.000So once these lunatics understand that the media is going to make demi-heroes out of them, and they do, even though they pretend that they don't, they make demi-heroes out of these potential Trump assassins, they're never going to stop because for the same reason some of these... But they do that with all shooters.
01:27:26.000A lot of them want notoriety when they go into, and I'm not even going to get into it because of YouTube, but when they go into those places and do that thing, oftentimes it's because they want the notoriety.
01:28:12.000This is true, but I don't think it would happen because Congress is split.
01:28:14.000Yeah, I don't think Congress would get that.
01:28:15.000The Republicans would say, contingent election delegations.
01:28:18.000The Democrats would say, no, Vance is your candidate.
01:28:20.000And then the next thing you know, any slates of electors that were sent to the Electoral College with Vance on them would be prosecuted and put in jail.
01:28:49.000Biden's gone and his ticket's still there.
01:28:54.000They'd make the same argument that Kamala made.
01:28:56.000They'd be like, you can put in whoever we want, which is the same thing that they were doing before.
01:29:01.000It's a private organization, etc, etc.
01:29:03.000We can assume that if anything happens to Trump, the election will be chaos, be it a postponement, be it a contingent election, be it the election goes forward, but then the Democrats challenge Vance, citing he wasn't actually nominated or whatever, he was chosen by Trump.
01:29:18.000I don't think... He was then nominated.
01:29:22.000Vance is chosen by Trump and then selected at the RNC, but he wasn't voted in a primary.
01:29:51.000And then it was interesting, Biden called Trump to check in on him and see if he was okay, and they talked about potentially additional Secret Service protection, although I don't know if that has happened yet.
01:30:07.000I mean, he was speaking at the Texas Tribune Festival saying, That he didn't even believe deportations were a good policy at all, and he brought up the example of a single person saying that it would, you know, how would we deport a single person?
01:30:19.000I mean, the House voted to impeach him because he's derelict and duty, and the Senate wouldn't take it up.
01:30:23.000I suspect we could do it again because if you can't keep the president safe, I mean, what are we doing here?
01:30:28.000Trump might want to bunker up and just get back on Twitter.
01:30:31.000I think that's what they want, though.
01:31:26.000I mean, we know a lot about how she was a middle-class kid.
01:31:29.000We know a lot about how the people in her neighborhood liked their lawns, but we don't really know anything about, we don't really know anything about what she would like to do for the American people that's worthwhile.
01:31:40.000We know she wants to tax us on our unrealized capital gains.
01:32:10.000I mean, also because she's obsessed with Trump and everyone on her campaign is obsessed with Trump.
01:32:14.000She could have spent the whole night appealing to voters who say, we don't really know who you are, tell us what you want to accomplish.
01:32:19.000Instead, the fixation was getting on an emotional reaction from Trump, which at times she did.
01:32:24.000On the other hand, complete missed opportunity for her because undecided voters still don't know who she is or what she's trying to promise them.
01:32:30.000They know the buzzwords, opportunity, economy, I'm from the middle class, but it doesn't make her any more relatable.
01:32:36.000Did you see that Billie Eilish came out today and endorsed her?
01:32:39.000How many pop stars are we gonna bring out to give her personality?
01:32:43.000You know what's funny is in the 90s you had like a lot of pop stars coming out and getting involved in politics but mostly they were just saying rock the vote like that's it they went on MTV and said rock the vote.
01:32:53.000But it's because it's because they knew that younger voters lean Democrat and so the game they've employed is hey just go vote because they know it's it's their they got their EV plus.
01:33:02.000I still prefer the But right now, unregistered voters lean towards Trump.
01:33:07.000So Democrats actually, this was a funny story a few months ago, stopped their voter registration initiatives because it was actually helping Donald Trump.
01:33:12.000And Motor Voter in Pennsylvania was veering Republican as well.
01:33:17.000I saw on your X, the Trump plan, you were like, do it!
01:33:56.000So we have to invest our own money in order to fund our retirement, and then you want to tax us on it after you've been taxing us with Social Security this whole time that you're going to keep?
01:36:12.000Remember when they had basically like the middle-aged workers were practically rioting in France because they wanted to raise their retirement age.
01:36:20.000They were like, you would never do that to us.
01:36:22.000I love how Trump's policies are increasingly just abolished taxes.
01:36:25.000Well, you know, that is kind of great.
01:36:50.000Which is a good thing a tax cut for retirees because there's I mean, it's a double edged sword too with the college forgiveness because there's tons of people who paid off their loans who that that pisses them off like you can't believe.
01:37:01.000Or like the $25,000 down payment assistance.
01:37:28.000And so you're taking the money from the taxpayers and you're giving it to the companies selling the houses.
01:37:33.000Yeah, I'm not sure that that would have a mass impact, but fair enough, right?
01:37:36.000The thing is, though, is when I'm looking at the college student loan debt forgiveness, some of these people have hundreds of thousands of dollars in student debt, been going to school for 12 years.
01:37:46.000Well, also, though, I mean, the other thing, too, with the student debt is it is true that when you have a student loan that compounds on interest once you graduate, like, that's deadly.
01:37:56.000And the reason that tuition is so high is because student loans are so readily available.
01:38:14.000And the other thing, too, is tuition is like $60,000 a year at some of the schools that I went to.
01:38:18.000And it's like, there should absolutely not be loans facilitating a college degree that costs more than a house.
01:38:25.000And the colleges have no incentive not to continue to raise prices because they know ultimately they can demand students get government-backed loans that they cannot go bankrupt on.
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01:39:38.000Eric Shaver says, Do you think Google should have to disclose all of the information it has collected about us so we can conduct social experiments?
01:39:49.000I think Google should be legally required to give you any and all information with your name on it, that they have of yours, but like the idea to disclose all of the information in general, I certainly would not like that.
01:40:05.000They're gonna be posting where I go to eat lunch.
01:40:07.000What was he even getting at with that?
01:41:38.000The reason was, it was apparent that our long-standing thumbnail is not particularly good marketing in that it's only effective for people who already know what the show is.
01:41:48.000You see a thumbnail, it says TimCastIRL live now with a guest, and you're like, I like TimCastIRL, I'll watch.
01:41:53.000For anybody who didn't know, they might just be like, don't know what that is, next.
01:41:57.000So I thought, well, we're a news-driven show.
01:41:59.000We need to have the main story be prominent in the thumbnail.
01:42:03.000So today, I and the guest, Andrew Wilson, as well as Tim Castellaw live, and then the story, which is that we have filed a lawsuit against Kamala Harris.
01:42:11.000I think this is more accessible to the average viewer who might be browsing YouTube and then see a show they've never heard of, but a story that's important to them, and then they'll come watch and realize it's the best show, everyone agrees, at least that's what I've been told.
01:42:55.000You can tweet it, I suppose, if you have it.
01:42:58.000Dragon Lady says, Carl Benjamin did a couple of videos on his channel, The Symposium, four years ago saying exactly what you are about Palpatine and the Rebels.
01:43:06.000Search for the title Star Wars is pro-Jedi propaganda.
01:43:10.000I want to stress, honest question, where in the movies, at any point, does Palpatine do something wrong?
01:44:28.000As the guy's drawn his weapon against him, and he reflects it back, and Palpatine is trying to hold him back, but in no way did Palpatine ever aggress against Mace Windu.
01:44:36.000Mace Windu went to his office, intent on killing an elected official, and Anakin pleads for him not to do it.
01:44:41.000Anakin strikes Mace Windu down in self-defense, in defense of others, and with his weapon now dismantled, it is completely reasonable for Palpatine to say, this is a Jedi master who just tried to kill me, and so he defends himself.
01:45:31.000You're saying Emperor Palpatine's at fault for that?
01:45:33.000Okay, well, if you're going to blame Vader, then the hole in your argument here is that Palpatine said, do what must be done.
01:45:41.000Oh, but we know, but no, no, no, no, I take issue with that.
01:45:44.000Did Palpatine say, Anakin, go to the school and go murder a bunch of children?
01:45:49.000He wasn't exactly punishing him afterwards.
01:45:51.000I'm saying that, like police, they often do bad things and then they're like, oh man, what do we do?
01:45:56.000My point is that Palpatine I'm not saying he's, like, look, I get it, you watch the movies, he's an evil guy, like, he orders Anakin and Anakin goes kill kids, but my point is this.
01:46:04.000If you watch the movies, there's no scene where Palpatine's like, now I want you to go murder children.
01:46:56.000We got Bradley Macalow says, Tim, you've quite literally used Kamala as the prime example to demonstrate why you'll never support capital punishment.
01:47:05.000Andrew, I've followed you since the PWF days.
01:47:08.000Everyone needs to donate to the vacation fund.
01:47:11.000Well, my point was, when people say like, you don't, like a guy who committed a crime and like, you know, abused kids or murdered kids, you don't think he should get the death penalty?
01:47:19.000And my response is always, no I don't think that if Kamala Harris came up to me and said, give me the authority to kill that man, that I would agree with that.
01:47:27.000So I had a debate on the Members Only show with one of our members that I thought was actually very good.
01:47:32.000And we talked about, there's a guy who admitted to committing these crimes.
01:47:38.000Shouldn't he get the death penalty for serious abuse and harm to children and things like this?
01:47:43.000And my response is, I don't believe that knowing a single person is bad justifies an institutionalized apparatus that just kills people.
01:47:53.000Because while we as individuals who are discerning and moral, and we know we all are because we trust ourselves, and I mean that, like, we think, you know, we do our best.
01:48:04.000So if I was in a circumstance where I had to defend a child from great bodily harm or death, I know that I would make the right decision watching that happen with my own eyes and making the judgment.
01:48:14.000It's something we hope never happens, but we have to defend ourselves and the lives of others.
01:48:19.000But if, well after the fact, there is a state that then comes and says, just trust me, I saw it happen, I'm gonna be like, I can't just trust you, you're gonna kill a guy!
01:48:30.000That's an action that I will not be involved in.
01:48:32.000So the problem is, ultimately, the creation of an institution that kills people has a margin of error.
01:48:38.000It is not so simple as you, the arbiter of morality, and I'm not saying that to be mean, I'm saying quite literally, You as an individual watching an egregious immoral action and a violation of every human atrocity before your eyes, you can make the determination.
01:49:41.000In this case, it's one of the kind of few You could say middle-of-the-road or somewhat libertarian views that I have, but I tend to agree with you that Christians should err on the side of caution when it comes to taking anybody's life, especially if we have the means not to, because our goal is supposed to be to reform them, right?
01:50:03.000I would much rather see a murderer, 25 years on the taxpayer's dime, reform and have his soul saved than, wow, we're gonna put him out of his misery.
01:50:18.000We get an island that's like, you know, 20 miles around, waterfront area, and we say,
01:50:24.000you have been found guilty by a jury of your peers of egregious crimes that warrant the death penalty.
01:50:30.000However... I feel like I've seen this movie.
01:50:31.000I don't know, I'm saying because we don't want to be the executioners, because there is a margin of error, instead, you are now excised from society.
01:50:41.000We will not take your life, but you will no longer be a threat to anybody else.
01:50:52.000I say, my view is, if you've committed crimes against society and the people, we say, we don't want to kill innocent people, but there's a greater than probabilities chance, you know, we've determined that beyond a reasonable doubt you've committed this crime, so to remove any possibility of killing innocent people, island.
01:51:12.000And if you're innocent, you go to the island, hey man, you have no right to what we build and share within this society.
01:51:23.000Because you're like, okay, we're going to outcast you from a place you don't want to be outcast from, and where you potentially have family that will assist you, right?
01:51:34.000Yeah, I know, but it just seems like you're kind of doing the exact same thing, which is taking the idea of, well, we could be wrong about this, There is a big difference between strapping someone down and injecting them, electrocuting them, or shooting them, and saying, here is an island where you can farm and live your life for the rest of your days away from the rest of us.
01:52:18.000If the option is kill the person who's been convicted of the crime, or they can sort it out themselves, I think it's fair to say sort it out yourself.
01:53:46.000The front part of the building is not even connected, and it's like, well, you can seal off the door and then make another door or something.
01:53:51.000You can't, like, just give it vanity here?
01:53:54.000Meaning, like, you just cosmetically make it look exactly the same, but behind the scenes... It's elevator code.
01:54:00.000No, but behind the scenes, it's all modern machinery, right?
01:54:03.000That would basically destroy an antique elevator.
01:54:06.000Yeah, well... So the antique elevator can't operate on new parts.
01:54:09.000It's basically a wooden platform in a box, and when you're riding in it, you can see the brick walls all around you.
01:55:16.000Lurch says, I saw a comment online where someone went to the same gym as David Muir, and he loves to check himself out in the mirror and flex and pose.
01:55:46.000Chris says the Kamala Harris campaign touts Tim as a dangerous radical that needs to be stopped but has no issue running targeted ads on his YouTube channels.
01:55:53.000The Harris hypocrisy is out of this world.
01:56:27.000And also- I think that's true in a lot of cases with the campaign.
01:56:30.000I mean, it sort of goes to show that they probably think there's free thinkers who watch the show and are able to make up their own minds about things once they have all the information.
01:57:31.000And so that's not going to change any time soon because, you know, we have a lot of fun.
01:57:37.000You could maybe perhaps call me like a co-host pro-tem or something like this.
01:57:41.000But anyway, no, many of the various girls that I debate with are quite intelligent and we have good discussions and good debates back and forth.
01:57:51.000Now, and some of them are really, really stupid.
01:58:11.000Alright, Clever Username says, I think the foundation of Tim's argument about rights can be summed up this way.
01:58:16.000We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights.
01:58:56.000My view is, call it duty, call it whatever you want, God says, here are pathways for you to fulfill my desires for you.
01:59:03.000You have free will, and other people will try to violate that, and you are faced with difficult challenges and evil, and then you've got Demons, or whatever people want to call it, whispering in the ears of people to corrupt them, and then they seek to violate the divine path.
01:59:20.000Well, I agree that—I agree morality comes from God, 100%, and that you have to use God as the basis for morality.
01:59:28.000That's where I would move, is towards some form of—it wouldn't exactly be divine command, but a simplified, easy version is divine command.
01:59:37.000I think we would just kind of agree to that.
01:59:38.000The idea, though, is that it's a command.