Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Tim Pool Sues Kamala Harris For President, Defamation Lawsuit Filed w-Andrew Wilson | Timcast IRLTim Pool Sues Kamala Harris For President, Defamation Lawsuit Filed w-Andrew Wilson | Timcast IRL

00:00:00.000 Tonight, I can announce that I have formally filed lawsuit against Kamala Harris for president,

00:00:18.000 Harris for president as the defendant for defamation, defamation per se, over a clip

00:00:23.000 that they posted where they accused me of calling for extrajudicial execution of Donald

00:00:29.000 political opponents, which is an egregious and psychotic lie.

00:00:33.000 We have the filing available right now, which we will be going through.

00:00:36.000 It is officially filed.

00:00:40.000 And we're going to break it down for you and then provide some commentary as to the arguments.

00:00:44.000 I know there are many big stories breaking right now, but considering many of you have requested that we cover this as soon as possible and give you the updates as soon as we can, because I announced it over a week ago, we do have this update, and as it involves me, it involves the presidential campaign, as well as my views regarding their lies, not just about me, but others.

00:01:03.000 We'll be covering this, but there is also very big news Israel is accused of planting explosives in thousands of pagers, which all detonated at the same time, injuring thousands of Hezbollah fighters in Lebanon.

00:01:19.000 This is unprecedented.

00:01:20.000 The story is beyond belief.

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00:02:53.000 I'm going to be showing you our formal filing for our lawsuit against Harris for president.

00:02:59.000 Her campaign has been posting lies.

00:03:01.000 They are shockingly egregious.

00:03:03.000 There's a lot to bring up about, you know, what they know.

00:03:07.000 I believe that they know they are lying.

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00:03:57.000 Joining us tonight to talk about this and so much more is Andrew Wilson.

00:04:01.000 Hey, Tim, how you doing?

00:04:01.000 Thanks for having me on tonight.

00:04:02.000 Appreciate it.

00:04:03.000 Appreciate you coming.

00:04:04.000 Who are you?

00:04:05.000 Yeah, my name is Andrew Wilson.

00:04:06.000 I'm the host of The Crucible.

00:04:07.000 I'm a political analyst, political satirist.

00:04:10.000 I'm also a bloodsport debater.

00:04:12.000 You also probably see me a lot on the Whatever podcast. 0.98

00:04:15.000 I argue with feminists on that platform quite a bit, sex workers, OnlyFans crazies, and lunatics of all stripes and degenerates from all abound. 1.00

00:04:23.000 You will usually see me in opposition to them on some show somewhere on any given day. 0.84

00:04:28.000 Before the show started, we had a great conversation about how Palpatine did nothing wrong.

00:04:28.000 And I do appreciate it.

00:04:32.000 Palpatine did nothing wrong.

00:04:34.000 He did nothing wrong.

00:04:39.000 In the movies, they don't actually show him abusing anybody.

00:04:43.000 He's just a savvy politician.

00:04:44.000 But we won't.

00:04:45.000 It's a fun conversation.

00:04:47.000 I'm just saying that Alderaan, okay, I'm so sick of hearing about how Alderaan, you know, was just, you know, just filled with people who were, you know, holding hands and this and that.

00:04:57.000 It was clearly a planet which was harboring fugitives of justice, let's say.

00:05:02.000 Rebels.

00:05:02.000 All right.

00:05:03.000 Well, maybe that'll come up at some point.

00:05:03.000 All right.

00:05:05.000 We got Libby hanging out.

00:05:06.000 I'm here.

00:05:07.000 I'm Libby Emmons with the Postmillennial.

00:05:07.000 I'm hanging out.

00:05:09.000 Glad to be here.

00:05:10.000 I'm glad you're both here, and I don't know what you're talking about, but I feel like I'm going to learn so much tonight.

00:05:14.000 Palpatine's the emperor in Star Wars.

00:05:17.000 Ah, okay.

00:05:18.000 Do it.

00:05:18.000 I think I grew up Amish.

00:05:19.000 I don't really know anything about Star Wars, but again, it's the best part of the show.

00:05:23.000 I learn things every day.

00:05:24.000 I didn't bring up, though, that he was so benevolent that he didn't even want to kill Luke Skywalker.

00:05:31.000 He just wanted to turn him to the good side.

00:05:35.000 Didn't even bring that up.

00:05:36.000 The good side.

00:05:37.000 So much to learn tonight.

00:05:39.000 It's rebel propaganda.

00:05:39.000 It is.

00:05:40.000 It's rebel propaganda.

00:05:41.000 I'm Hannah Kluver.

00:05:42.000 I'm a writer for SCNR.com and I co-host this show.

00:05:45.000 Thanks guys for tuning in.

00:05:46.000 Let's get started.

00:05:47.000 Here's the big story, ladies and gentlemen.

00:05:48.000 This is the formal filing in the complaint.

00:05:51.000 Tim Pool, as Plaintiff vs. Harris for President, jury trial demanded.

00:05:56.000 You can see we have the official filing here.

00:05:59.000 I need not read the introduction.

00:06:01.000 I'll give you the brief summary as it pertains to this lawsuit we have filed.

00:06:05.000 For those that are just tuning in, I will give you the quick update once again, as this will also be a standalone segment.

00:06:10.000 I am suing the Harris campaign for defaming me, for claiming that I had called for the extrajudicial execution of Donald Trump's political opponents and all of his voters who refused to support him.

00:06:27.000 That I was a Trump operative with a Project 2025 plan calling for legal authorities beyond the scope of legal authorities that would allow Trump to jail and execute anyone who refuses to support him if he wins.

00:06:39.000 It is so antithetical to my views.

00:06:41.000 It is the exact opposite of what was actually being said in the video.

00:06:45.000 And so I will show you guys this filing and we'll provide some commentary and understanding on what is going on.

00:06:50.000 Tim, I gotta ask you a quick question on this.

00:06:52.000 Yeah.

00:06:52.000 With what's been going on with the attempted assassinations on Donald Trump, now multiple assassinations we're moving into, I have a feeling that there's going to be multiple more.

00:07:02.000 It seems like once this kind of happens, you just can't quite put it back in.

00:07:07.000 How does things like this, like the Harris campaign saying this about Tim Kast and you, not actually put your life in danger?

00:07:14.000 I suppose I should probably read for you from here, which outlines some of these incidents.

00:07:19.000 I will mention an individual showed up at one of our properties and the report that I was given, because I'm not there, because we're not there, was that an employee was physically attacked.

00:07:31.000 So, the insanity that emerges when a presidential campaign claims that you as a podcast host want them to be executed, I think people really need to understand how shockingly insane that is, and the damage that comes with it.

00:07:45.000 So, I do think it's important to point out as well, for me, I'm personally impacted by this, my business is impacted by this, my friends, my family, my security, and many, many other things.

00:07:56.000 We have been sitting here Watching a corporate media apparatus as well as prominent politicians lie over and over about everything.

00:08:05.000 I think they've crossed the line many, many times.

00:08:07.000 This is just one example.

00:08:09.000 Here's the filing, which I'll try to make it quick so we can talk more about the issues, but you get an understanding of where we're coming from.

00:08:14.000 They mention that I'm a social media creator, independent journalist, interviewing many people such as Marianne Williamson, former Democratic presidential candidates.

00:08:22.000 I cast my ballot for Barack Obama in 2008.

00:08:24.000 I had endorsed Bernie Sanders in 2016, though I was not nearly as prominent, mind you.

00:08:28.000 My views defy easy categorization on the left-right spectrum.

00:08:32.000 I'm fairly moderate.

00:08:34.000 It goes on to mention that I was skeptical of the global war on terror, joining protesters in New York City during Occupy.

00:08:39.000 I was critical of George W. Bush.

00:08:41.000 It goes on.

00:08:42.000 They mention, I'm a critic of bailouts, financial interests, corporate power, I'm a civil libertarian.

00:08:47.000 But let me go on to get to the meat and potatoes here.

00:08:51.000 The filing says, in a post to the social media platform Axe, which has now been viewed more than 12 million times, the Harris campaign stated Mr. Poole is promoting a, quote, plan to give former President Trump total unchecked legal power so they can jail and execute those who don't support Trump if he wins.

00:09:08.000 The Harris campaign did not hedge this statement or couch it as opinion, to the contrary.

00:09:12.000 To any reasonable reader, the Harris campaign was saying that Mr. Poole wants to suspend the Constitution, make Trump a dictator, and use state power to imprison and kill Mr. Poole and President Trump's political opponents.

00:09:23.000 According to the Harris campaign, then-Mr. Poole's plan is to imitate one of the hallmarks of the most abhorrent, murderous regimes of past and present.

00:09:30.000 What the Harris campaign published was and is a lie.

00:09:33.000 Mr. Poole has never advocated for the lawless extrajudicial killing of his or anyone else's political opponents.

00:09:39.000 To include in the video clip, the Harris campaign incorporated to its ex-post.

00:09:43.000 Both the clip and its context demonstrate Mr. Poole's commitment to civil liberties, which is consistent with his past criticism of drone strikes involving American citizens in the war on terrorism.

00:09:53.000 Shocked by the Harris campaign's malicious disregard for the truth, Mr. Poole almost immediately threatened legal action, but the post and the deception it creates remains to this day.

00:10:02.000 Mr. Poole welcomes debate and discussion from all sides of the political spectrum, including from Vice President Harris, Governor Walz, the Harris campaign.

00:10:09.000 As part of his commitment to open discussion, Mr. Poole has even taken out advertisements above the very New York City streets he once walked to engage people who disagree with him, putting millions of dollars where his mouth is on the issue.

00:10:18.000 But with the Harris campaign's lie still hovering over our democracy, Mr. Poole finds it more difficult to book guests with contrary views, including Democratic politicians and members of Congress.

00:10:28.000 The reputational harm the Harris campaign inflicted on Mr. Poole will take millions of dollars to undo.

00:10:33.000 At the same time, Mr. Poole is ramping up his security efforts as a shield against those who bought the Harris campaign's lie and might seek to do him and those he cares about harm.

00:10:42.000 A recent incident suggests one man might have already been set off by the Harris campaign's false statement.

00:10:47.000 As I mentioned, some crazy guy showed up to one of our properties.

00:10:51.000 I was not there.

00:10:52.000 The report I was given is that police were called, an employee was attacked physically and left injured.

00:10:57.000 I mean, this stuff is absolutely insane.

00:11:00.000 And they'll attack people adjacent.

00:11:03.000 What if it's Tim Foole's family?

00:11:04.000 They'll attack people adjacent to you.

00:11:07.000 There are neighbors next to this property, and I've gotten reports that these individuals are going on their properties, trying to sneak around.

00:11:14.000 I mean, this stuff is nuts.

00:11:15.000 I can't stress, I think people need to realize this.

00:11:18.000 Kamala Harris is the Democratic candidate for the presidency.

00:11:23.000 Who posted on our official campaign social media platform that I have advocated for this.

00:11:29.000 They are pushing this lie.

00:11:30.000 One, I am not a Trump operative.

00:11:32.000 I am not part of Project 2025.

00:11:33.000 I have never, never advocated for the death penalty.

00:11:36.000 I strongly oppose it and passionately argue against it, even in our members-only show, debating with people.

00:11:44.000 Now, they go on to mention parties, jurisdiction, venue, etc.

00:11:47.000 They go on to explain that the Kamala Harris campaign actually posts what they call fact checks on their ex-account.

00:11:54.000 They actually state, you know, that they're correcting the record and things of this nature.

00:11:58.000 They go on to mention several posts from me.

00:12:00.000 Writing in thousands of hours of video and audio content, Mr. Poole detailed his views on the issues.

00:12:04.000 I am anti-violence, anti-censorship, anti-corporatist, against mass centralization of power of any form, against illegal spying in the security state, against racism, fascism, war, Consistent with these views, Mr. Poole criticized Obama for his administration's use of drone strikes, such as those that led to the death of Abdulrahman Awlaki.

00:12:21.000 And don't get me going, I rant on that one a lot.

00:12:24.000 They go on to mention the Harris campaign operates an ex-account under the handle KamalaHQ.

00:12:29.000 They mention that it displays fact checks, telling people that they're presenting them with the truth.

00:12:35.000 They go on to mention the post in question, which includes, they have since scrubbed this video from YouTube.

00:12:41.000 In the Body of the Post, which has been viewed more than 12 million times, the Harris campaign asserted that Poole is a Trump operative with a Project 2025 plan, with a plan to give Trump total unchecked legal power so they can jail and execute those who don't support Trump if he wins.

00:12:54.000 Nothing short of lawless extrajudicial killings.

00:12:57.000 The Harris campaign further asserted that Mr. Poole and his guests since scrubbed this video from YouTube falsely suggesting that Mr. Poole was or is trying to hide the video the Harris campaign incorporated while also revealing the in-depth research it did into Mr. Poole and his views.

00:13:14.000 I want to go on to mention...

00:13:16.000 That in the filing, we present from the actual show, where it says, quote, at the 1 hour 26 minute mark, quote, Tim Pool, I oppose the death penalty.

00:13:30.000 Quote, you're saying that when they are arrested, or when they are indicted, arrested, tried, and convicted, should they have been found guilty of treason by a jury of their peers, you say death penalty, which is the legal codification in this country.

00:13:41.000 Media reporting immediately after the May 31st broadcast did not make such salacious false

00:13:45.000 accusations against Mr. Poole. The website Mediite ran a story on the clip but focused on Ms. Loomer,

00:13:50.000 who reported called for Democrats to be executed. They go on to mention, I believe that there's

00:13:55.000 other timestamps that I want to make sure I can highlight.

00:13:57.000 Maybe I passed them already.

00:13:58.000 You were just clarifying her take? Like that's all that was going on?

00:14:02.000 Was you were just clarifying her take?

00:14:04.000 The core of this is that I believe it was Sean Davis of the Federalist who said I want to see a list of the Democrats that are going to be arrested when Trump wins.

00:14:13.000 My point was I'm going to say it in the most correct and easy to understand context possible because You know, they're trying to spin what I'm saying.

00:14:22.000 If you want to arrest anyone, be it Democrat or otherwise, there has to be real evidence, there has to be an actual indictment, there must be jury trials, there must be an opportunity, years in fact, for them to go through the evidence and fight this legal case, and should they be found guilty, and there should be trials, we will show the whole world what they did.

00:14:41.000 They have clipped this out of context to remove everything I was saying as if I'm advocating for people to be arrested.

00:14:47.000 To which I even say in the show, I do not think anyone's committed treason.

00:14:51.000 Sedition at worst.

00:14:53.000 People have like, you know, the lawyer who fabricated an email to try and, you know, get a Trump aide arrested or whatever.

00:14:58.000 Seditious conspiracy at worst.

00:15:01.000 In it I said, Are there Democrats who should be arrested?

00:15:04.000 Of course.

00:15:04.000 No question.

00:15:05.000 My point is not we should go around arresting Democrat voters.

00:15:07.000 My point is, are some of the people who align as Democrats in government people who have committed crimes?

00:15:13.000 Yes!

00:15:13.000 Look at Jabal Bowman.

00:15:16.000 He walks up and he pulls the emergency signs off the doors and then pulls the fire alarm.

00:15:19.000 He got charged for that.

00:15:21.000 It was an accident.

00:15:22.000 It was an accident, Tim.

00:15:22.000 Sure.

00:15:24.000 He was in the wrong place.

00:15:25.000 He thought of that over and over again.

00:15:26.000 That was the exit.

00:15:27.000 And then there's the video of him taking the sign off.

00:15:29.000 Take off your tinfoil hat, okay?

00:15:32.000 It was an accident.

00:15:33.000 He'd never seen one before.

00:15:33.000 He didn't mean to.

00:15:34.000 He was only a school principal.

00:15:36.000 How could he know?

00:15:37.000 He didn't know what was going on.

00:15:40.000 So let me see if there's anything more I can add to this.

00:15:44.000 You know, I think the document may be up and visible.

00:15:47.000 Can you elaborate a little bit more on this thing, this altercation which happened?

00:15:51.000 So they showed up at this property, they're going on the neighbor's property, they're doing all these things.

00:15:58.000 It seems like it's safe to assume that, again, if you're experiencing harassment like that, that it will likely continue.

00:16:06.000 We were swatted.

00:16:07.000 Um, I think this was starting in 2022 into 23 over a dozen times.

00:16:14.000 And, you know, a lot of people think that means that police kick the door down, there's guns everywhere.

00:16:18.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:16:19.000 The first time we get shut down, the police say we're coming in, what do they call it, exigent circumstance or something, and I said, I do not want the police coming on my property, this is a false, you know, the swatting, blah blah blah, and they refused to listen.

00:16:32.000 So I'm, let's just say, perturbed over this.

00:16:36.000 It persisted.

00:16:38.000 At this point, I'm not going to explain our security apparatus, but we get swatted.

00:16:44.000 They don't come and kick the door in.

00:16:45.000 There's a different way it's handled that doesn't disrupt the show.

00:16:49.000 There was an instance where one of the bomb hoaxes was deemed credible and we had to evacuate the studio for three hours with the live stream running.

00:16:58.000 We had 40,000 people watching an empty room for three hours as the police kept us off our own property because of these things.

00:17:05.000 So when someone shows up And the reports that I've gotten, I want to be very clear because I'm not there.

00:17:10.000 We aren't at this property anymore.

00:17:12.000 People don't know where we are.

00:17:13.000 They don't know what's going on.

00:17:14.000 They show up. 1.00

00:17:14.000 They're crazy. 1.00

00:17:16.000 What I've gotten reports from security and other individuals is that a crazy person was on the neighbor's property lurking around, spying on our old property, which is now effectively a private residence, unaffiliated with anything we're doing here.

00:17:29.000 We're not there anymore.

00:17:31.000 And then one day came with a camera And there's a big sign saying, no trespassing, walking right past it, walking up onto the property, filming things.

00:17:38.000 And then the next day, something happened that resulted in, all I can say is, I don't know, I wasn't there, but I was told a police report was filed after this man assaulted one of our employees, leaving him injured, very lightly, but injured, like black eyes, is what I was told.

00:17:53.000 And the police came and removed the man and told him he can't come back.

00:17:58.000 And this is the kind of stuff that we deal with.

00:18:00.000 And I don't think people understand.

00:18:01.000 But that's already too much.

00:18:02.000 Absolutely.

00:18:03.000 That's already too much.

00:18:04.000 I mean, the stuff that we see because the Harris campaign, I mean, look, I don't understand how How they could just publish this, this statement.

00:18:16.000 It's insane.

00:18:18.000 Because they get away with it, right?

00:18:21.000 And we have to stand up for ourselves.

00:18:22.000 We have to say enough of the insane lies.

00:18:26.000 I have friends and family who are Democrats who live in other parts of the country.

00:18:29.000 And I already had, I immediately after this happened, had people calling me being like, my brother's asking me like, what is going on? 0.96

00:18:37.000 And I'm like, holy crap.

00:18:37.000 What did you say?

00:18:39.000 Anyway, sorry.

00:18:40.000 So yeah, Daniel Dale with CNN finally did some fact checking of Kamala HQ and only found eight errors.

00:18:48.000 And he did not even include this one. 0.57

00:18:51.000 No, it was actually sort of ridiculous. 0.71

00:18:53.000 So I think you're right, though.

00:18:54.000 I think they don't expect anyone to do anything.

00:18:56.000 And also, who has the resources?

00:18:58.000 And with the pace at which social media moves, they think they'll do the damage they need, but kind of be able to escape into the wilderness before anyone catches them.

00:19:06.000 Yeah, well, that's the thing, right?

00:19:07.000 It's like how many of the 12 million people who saw that are going to follow up on it, right?

00:19:11.000 Once it's in your mind, Tim Pool bad guy, Tim Pool bad guy, or whoever bad guy.

00:19:17.000 The damage is done, and then you can just move on to the next thing, right?

00:19:21.000 Meanwhile, you have to go in and sometimes maybe take years to salvage whatever the reputational damage was based on the slander. 0.99

00:19:28.000 So yeah, sue the shit out of them. 0.99

00:19:29.000 Well, we have filed. 0.99

00:19:30.000 It's there.

00:19:32.000 I don't know if it's, uh, it is filed.

00:19:34.000 I think, uh, should any, you know, outlets begin to pick this up, the filings... Well, what are you asking for, exactly, in the filing?

00:19:42.000 Let me just read, because I think it's better that I read from the official statement.

00:19:45.000 So, count one.

00:19:46.000 Defamation libel per se under West Virginia law.

00:19:49.000 Mr. Poole re-alleges the foregoing paragraphs.

00:19:51.000 The Harris campaign published a false statement that Mr. Poole is a Trump operative, that he has a Project 2025 plan, that he wants to give Trump total unchecked legal power to jail and execute those who don't support Trump if he wins.

00:20:02.000 Those statements were and are false, because Mr. Poole never said such a thing in the incorporated video, and has never said such a thing previously.

00:20:09.000 The content the Harris campaign clipped cannot be reasonably construed to support the claims made in the post at issue or from Mr. Poole's prior statements and conduct.

00:20:17.000 The Harris campaign cast its statement as fact, not opinion.

00:20:21.000 Accusations that Mr. Poole endorses lawlessness, executions, and extrajudicial killings harm his reputation and standing in his chosen career and profession.

00:20:30.000 The Harris campaign published its statement on X to tens of thousands of third parties.

00:20:34.000 The Harris campaign's statement damaged Mr. Poole.

00:20:37.000 The Harris campaign exhibited actual malice by claiming that Mr. Poole supported lawlessness and extrajudicial killings when he made no such claim and despite the campaign's apparent research into Mr. Poole and his views.

00:20:48.000 Count two is bad faith misconduct.

00:20:50.000 Re-alleging the Harris campaign misconduct described previously herein was at all times carried out in bad faith, vexatiously, wantonly, and for oppressive reasons.

00:21:00.000 Mr. Poole is damaged by the Harris campaign's bad faith misconduct, as previously described

00:21:03.000 herein in addition to his expenditures for the prosecution of this cause of action, which

00:21:07.000 is necessary to clear Mr. Poole's name and restore his reputation.

00:21:11.000 Harris campaign's bad faith misconduct triggers the state's exception to the American rule

00:21:15.000 for payment of attorney's fees as described in I'm not going to read the case law.

00:21:19.000 There's campaigns pre litigation misconduct likewise triggers the exception to the American

00:21:22.000 rule for payment of attorney's fees described in and once again, case law.

00:21:27.000 Therefore Mr. Poole respectively praises court awards Mr. Poole all cognizable damages, awards

00:21:32.000 Mr. Poole his attorney's fees and costs, orders the Harris campaign to retract the original

00:21:37.000 defamatory publication in the same forums and broadcast media and in the same prominence

00:21:41.000 originally published and any other relief against the Harris campaign the court deems

00:21:46.000 Mr. Poole requests a jury trial on all issues so triable, respectively submitted this 17th day.

00:21:52.000 September 2024. And shout out to James Lawrence, who is representing me in this matter.

00:21:57.000 Well, what does that mean, though, the damages? Like, how much do you think you're going to ask

00:22:01.000 for here? I don't know if I'm allowed to talk about that.

00:22:03.000 Okay. Yeah, I don't know. All that's in the filing is what I can say is it mentions in the

00:22:09.000 filing. I want to make sure I get this right.

00:22:12.000 So I'm going to search it because I don't want it to be for me.

00:22:14.000 It says, let's see, millions of dollars were spent in ads.

00:22:21.000 It will take millions of dollars to undo.

00:22:23.000 Gotcha.

00:22:24.000 I want to clarify too, as much as I can, you know, for anybody who's listening, we There are a lot of people who file lawsuits where they're like, I want a million, hundred million dollars or whatever.

00:22:36.000 No, no, no, no, no.

00:22:37.000 We went over this and I said, here's what we're currently doing because of what they did.

00:22:41.000 And that is the case.

00:22:43.000 And we are going to be completely reasonable and approach this in every legitimate and reasonable way possible as to what our costs are for a business with 40 employees and, you know, with what happened at external locations, security costs, et cetera, as well as I forgot what it's called, but there's a specific term for marketing you have to undertake to try and counter certain messages.

00:23:04.000 So that's the gist of it.

00:23:06.000 There's obviously a lot more if you were to go through the whole thing.

00:23:09.000 I didn't read everything, but I assume those who cover the story later on, assuming they do, I don't know, will probably be able to pull up.

00:23:15.000 What's the principle behind the jury trial?

00:23:17.000 Is that just what your lawyers recommended that you do?

00:23:21.000 It's in the filing.

00:23:22.000 Okay.

00:23:23.000 Yeah.

00:23:24.000 Anything pertaining to my lawyers and all this stuff is just, I can't talk about.

00:23:27.000 I understand.

00:23:28.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:23:29.000 But I mean, everyone's going to be curious, right?

00:23:31.000 Yep.

00:23:32.000 And we're going to have to wait to see what ends up with this and all that stuff.

00:23:35.000 But I want to make sure that for the sake of respect for the courts and the process,

00:23:40.000 obviously I will talk about this as I have an absolute need to defend my reputation.

00:23:45.000 Many prominent leftist personalities are using these clips the Harris campaign posted out of context to defame me and lie about my views.

00:23:53.000 We every day are reaching out to personalities across the board and it becomes increasingly difficult to bring people on when they receive Look, we try to book a liberal to come on the show and they're getting threats and intimidation from other liberals.

00:24:08.000 There was a YouTuber who reviewed Am I Racist by Matt Walsh.

00:24:08.000 I'll give you an example.

00:24:12.000 What's his name?

00:24:13.000 I don't know.

00:24:13.000 Something Johns?

00:24:14.000 And he's getting attacks on the internet from the left for daring to talk about a movie.

00:24:19.000 They want to make sure he cannot do that.

00:24:21.000 That's what happened to Winston Marshall.

00:24:23.000 He was cancelled from Mumford & Sons for reading and liking Andy Ngo's book.

00:24:28.000 He read the book.

00:24:29.000 He said it was good.

00:24:29.000 That's right.

00:24:31.000 And he lost his band.

00:24:32.000 They can't risk his thoughts straying into uncharted, terrible territory.

00:24:37.000 Do you know how long, does the Kamala campaign have a certain amount of time in which to respond?

00:24:42.000 Do we have an expected response time?

00:24:44.000 No idea.

00:24:46.000 I like going after the Kamala campaign because the Democrats have been going after RFK mercilessly in every state.

00:24:46.000 It's interesting.

00:24:53.000 They launched lawsuits against states for erecting border walls because the Kamala campaign refused to do it.

00:25:00.000 They claim they're opposed to sex changes for minors while they sue the state of Tennessee for banning sex changes for minors.

00:25:07.000 I mean, this is the most litigious administration.

00:25:09.000 In this regard, I will just say, This filing is about an egregious lie that has damaged me, my business, has put us at security risk as we've already experienced.

00:25:22.000 It was only a couple days after this post came out that this guy shows up and is lurking around one of my properties, putting my staff at risk.

00:25:31.000 I will say, I have long told people you have to stand up and fight back, and it's very, very difficult.

00:25:37.000 I have long been a huge fan of James O'Keefe, who says, be brave.

00:25:40.000 And so when I am personally faced with something so shockingly damning, insane, and damaging, I absolutely will do whatever it takes to defend my name, my honor, my reputation, and seek every legal remedy to resolve Well, strategically, are you worried about backlash from the Kamala and Democrat campaigns?

00:26:02.000 So, for instance, there is a chance, and it's a very good chance, in fact, that Kamala Harris is the next president.

00:26:09.000 And, you know, the Democrats have not been known Uh, throughout the Trump years and then the Biden years of not taking revenge on basically anybody who's around, Tim.

00:26:19.000 I just wanted to point this out, right?

00:26:20.000 Anybody who has been a thorn in their side in any degree, uh, they kind of, you know, throw them in prison and lock away the key. 0.99

00:26:26.000 And in many cases, crawl up their ass with a microscope. 0.97

00:26:29.000 I'm just asking like, are you a little worried about any kind of backlash from this? 0.99

00:26:36.000 I will – I don't think about that.

00:26:39.000 In this regard, I was defamed.

00:26:41.000 We are seeking legal remedy with respect to the courts.

00:26:44.000 We have made our arguments.

00:26:46.000 And this matter, we – I can comment on other extraneous political matters as we wrap up this segment, which we will wrap up now and move on to the next story.

00:26:56.000 And perhaps there will be some other issue that is perhaps involving similar questions.

00:27:02.000 I don't want to comment in any way that construes the purpose of this lawsuit is simply to seek remedy for the defamation.

00:27:08.000 And that's very important to me.

00:27:10.000 I think it's important to the people of this country to know that our courts are willing to, you know, look, we've got Times v. Sullivan.

00:27:17.000 We've got, you know, these anti-SLAPP laws and things like this. There are remedies, 0.99

00:27:23.000 there are rules.

00:27:24.000 We abide by them because we respect the courts and we try to navigate a system to the best of

00:27:28.000 our abilities. And when someone acts in such a way that is bad faith and defamatory, then we

00:27:34.000 seek the appropriate legal remedies. So I'm going to wrap this segment up there.

00:27:38.000 I'm glad you're doing it. But just my opinion, right?

00:27:43.000 It is going to put a target on your back the size of the Death Star, right?

00:27:46.000 I mean, it really is.

00:27:47.000 Do you think that that's one of the ways Democratic lawmakers and Democratic activists try to keep conservative voices compliant, though?

00:27:56.000 Well, yeah.

00:27:57.000 Well, it's not just that.

00:27:59.000 They'll mobilize tech industry against you.

00:28:01.000 They'll mobilize law enforcement against you.

00:28:03.000 They'll mobilize the Department of Justice against you. 0.99

00:28:06.000 They don't give a shit anymore. 0.99

00:28:08.000 They don't care anymore. 0.99

00:28:09.000 The idea that people will use restraint against their political opponents, that's a thing of the past.

00:28:16.000 Well, if there is any concern or if you'd like to support our work and you think we should be standing up for ourselves and pushing back against lies and manipulations, become a member at TimCast.com.

00:28:28.000 This one's going to be going to be difficult.

00:28:31.000 It is very obvious to everybody.

00:28:32.000 Many people don't have the resources to defend themselves.

00:28:36.000 And even those who do, it is draining and puts great risk in terms of the great cost.

00:28:42.000 To stand up for yourself when something as powerful as a billion dollar political machine says something so shockingly egregious.

00:28:49.000 So I hope that there is a quick and speedy resolution and I'll leave it there.

00:28:54.000 Let's jump to the next story, ladies and gentlemen.

00:28:56.000 From the post-millennial, David Muir's World News Tonight viewership drops 12% following ABC presidential debate bias scandal.

00:29:06.000 The show averaged 6.7 million viewers Wednesday, Thursday, and Friday, which were the three episodes immediately following the debate.

00:29:11.000 Before the debate, his show was averaging 7.6 million viewers.

00:29:16.000 He dropped over 900,000 average viewers following the scandal.

00:29:21.000 According to Fox News, those are the numbers, that was the decline we saw.

00:29:26.000 Muir and co-moderator Lindsay Davis were criticized for fact-checking Trump on stage numerous times while not issuing any for Harris.

00:29:33.000 Namely, I think the most offensive is that she said there's no U.S.

00:29:37.000 troops in any active combat zone, and they didn't fact-check her.

00:29:39.000 Yeah, did you see Jim Banks today fact-checked that, and he put out a video that he got from U.S.

00:29:45.000 servicemen in active combat, and I thought that was pretty wild, because that was an insane lie.

00:29:52.000 And she should know that, and if she wants to be the commander-in-chief of the military, she should know where our guys are.

00:29:56.000 Right, and if she doesn't know it, then she shouldn't be in charge of the military, because she's clueless. 0.99

00:30:01.000 Well, that whole thing was biased, but I mean, I just read, I think this was on the Drudge Report earlier, that there was a document which came out that said that ABC behind the scenes was talking about this.

00:30:13.000 They were discussing ways that they were going to be fact-checking Yeah, that was in an LA Times interview with Lindsay Davis, and she said specifically that after the June 27th debate with Biden, they decided specifically to fact-check Trump as much as they could because they didn't appreciate what he'd said, you know, pushing Biden out of the race, apparently.

00:30:32.000 I'd like to welcome this 12% of viewers to come watch TimCast IRL, where we break down the news.

00:30:37.000 Or The Crucible.

00:30:38.000 And The Crucible.

00:30:39.000 Both.

00:30:40.000 What time is your show on?

00:30:40.000 You can watch them both.

00:30:42.000 Usually I run about 9 o'clock at night.

00:30:44.000 Oh, well there you go, there's a little overlap.

00:30:45.000 They can watch us for the first hour and then afterwards they can move over to the Crucible.

00:30:49.000 But, uh, I'm really optimistic with this story.

00:30:52.000 For one, doesn't it feel good?

00:30:54.000 A little payback?

00:30:55.000 I mean, I wouldn't call it payback.

00:30:56.000 It's just, you reap what you sow.

00:30:59.000 But that's what it is, right?

00:31:00.000 It's viewers saying, no.

00:31:02.000 I think it's an undeniable litmus test for mainstream media, right?

00:31:05.000 They put up this guy thinking, you know, he's going to represent our network well, and he's going to do whatever he needs to do.

00:31:11.000 And the reaction to him was dislike.

00:31:15.000 And it doesn't bode well for ABC, which I think is kind of an untrustworthy source, especially with the current administration.

00:31:21.000 It's very untrustworthy, and they're like the only people that Kamala Harris will talk to, ABC and CNN.

00:31:27.000 Biden gave them a ton of exclusivity.

00:31:27.000 And Biden!

00:31:29.000 Do you think, like, from the practical perspective, though, that we shouldn't jump to the conclusion that this is something which is going to stay steady, that this could just be some immediate backlash, and, you know, these numbers could rebound fairly easily?

00:31:43.000 This is pretty, like, this is pretty close after this debacle, so there's a good chance, you know, people have very limited memories, this type of thing.

00:31:51.000 I would argue if it does rebound, then what we're seeing is just political fatigue.

00:31:55.000 People are like, I am so tired of this, put on something else.

00:31:58.000 However, if this is because that debate was very poorly run, these 12% are probably turning on some other channel.

00:32:08.000 And the habit's not going to just change back.

00:32:10.000 They're not going to go, I don't know, I kind of watch Muir again.

00:32:13.000 I think once you're in the downward spiral, it's much harder to climb out.

00:32:16.000 I totally agree.

00:32:17.000 But I mean, well, first of all, 12% is insane.

00:32:18.000 I get what you're saying.

00:32:19.000 It's very close together.

00:32:19.000 I agree.

00:32:21.000 It's such a sudden drop.

00:32:22.000 Maybe it's just like, oh, I hate that guy and they'll forget in two months.

00:32:25.000 But on the other hand, it's actually on your to rebuild the reputation.

00:32:28.000 Otherwise, you'll be in, like, you will be in the habit of not going to him.

00:32:32.000 And that's, again, it's a much more difficult problem for him than it is for the viewer.

00:32:35.000 I agree, and the other thing is, 12% is huge.

00:32:39.000 That's a massive viewership drop.

00:32:43.000 Like, you know, career ending.

00:32:45.000 That would be, oh, I have a network, I just lost 12% of the viewers because of something you did, get out, right?

00:32:52.000 I mean, that's the kind of drop that that is.

00:32:55.000 However, however, the people who run ABC were like, David, we're sorry you lost these viewers because of what we told you to do.

00:33:03.000 They're not going to fire him.

00:33:05.000 No, they don't do that.

00:33:06.000 They're probably not going to fire him.

00:33:07.000 I don't see a scenario where the executives at ABC told him to fact check Trump, saw negative repercussion, and said, it's your fault.

00:33:15.000 They're going to say, this is what we have to deal with because we did the right thing.

00:33:18.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:33:19.000 Maybe.

00:33:19.000 I don't see these guys taking much personal responsibility.

00:33:22.000 They usually look for scapegoats.

00:33:24.000 And oftentimes, personalities will become the scapegoat.

00:33:27.000 I mean, we saw this with Tucker Carlson, for instance, at Fox News.

00:33:30.000 I think that he became a scapegoat for Dominion and for all of that.

00:33:35.000 I think he was totally a scapegoat.

00:33:37.000 Didn't Dominion request his termination?

00:33:39.000 Was that a part of it?

00:33:40.000 I think that that's what was understood, was that that was part of the lawsuit.

00:33:43.000 But it wasn't official or something.

00:33:45.000 Yeah, but that wasn't exactly accepted.

00:33:47.000 So I'm not, you know, like they will, if there's a scapegoat, they'll get rid of him.

00:33:50.000 If they're gonna scapegoat him, they're gonna say that his viewership decline was due to something else.

00:33:54.000 Oh yeah, I'm sure that's true.

00:33:56.000 Because, like you guys were already saying, they had this meeting where they were talking about how they were gonna fact-check Trump.

00:34:00.000 So this is official capacity ABC deciding to take an action, which was heavy bias.

00:34:05.000 And when, you know what they might say?

00:34:07.000 You know what it was?

00:34:08.000 It was when you told Trump that you didn't take his statement that way.

00:34:12.000 When he said we lost by a whisker and you argued with him and then gave your opinion, you beclowned yourself.

00:34:19.000 Well, you moved out of the position you were supposed to be in for the debate.

00:34:24.000 And so once you do that, once you move out of kind of that moderator hat, it's over, right?

00:34:24.000 Yep.

00:34:24.000 Right.

00:34:30.000 The bias is out.

00:34:32.000 There's not much you can do about it.

00:34:33.000 By the way, in the original debates with Clinton and Trump, there was a lot of bias that came out of the moderators there as well.

00:34:39.000 Didn't Donna Brazile feed Clinton the question? 1.00

00:34:43.000 I think Sanders was the one.

00:34:43.000 Yes.

00:34:45.000 Yeah, they were trying to get rid of Sanders.

00:34:46.000 They were trying to push him out.

00:34:48.000 Trying to get him to get rid of him.

00:34:48.000 Yeah, I mean, I've seen, I mean, some of the bias has been absolutely insane.

00:34:51.000 I don't know if you caught this interview over the weekend with CNN's Dana Bash and J.D.

00:34:55.000 Vance on Sunday morning.

00:34:57.000 It absolutely is completely worth watching.

00:35:00.000 It's 16 minutes.

00:35:01.000 And the difference between the way Bash treats Vance and the way Bash kowtowed to Kamala Harris and Tim Walz is actually pretty shocking to the point where J.D.

00:35:10.000 Vance points it out and says, you know, when you were interviewing Kamala Harris, You gave her multiple choice policy questions, and I'd appreciate it if you let me answer a question.

00:35:20.000 And it was a terrific interview.

00:35:22.000 I watched it twice.

00:35:23.000 If you have guys like Don Lemon, Don Lemon saying, hey, the media, the media needs to stop Trump.

00:35:31.000 I mean, that's what he's saying, right?

00:35:32.000 The media has to stop him.

00:35:34.000 The media is going out of their way to, you know, spread his fascist messaging.

00:35:39.000 That's what Lemon was just saying.

00:35:40.000 It's our professional obligation.

00:35:42.000 Yeah.

00:35:42.000 Do you remember Don Lemon from like 2012?

00:35:44.000 Yeah.

00:35:46.000 When he was like, we need to talk about fatherlessness in the black community. 1.00

00:35:49.000 Something that I think is deeply personal to me.

00:35:51.000 And I, you know, I think people have, I was, it's just like, there's this famous video where he talks about how he wants to help the black community, but it's these very practical way, things that like talking about, you know, helping homes, helping education.

00:36:03.000 And now he's this guy who was like, it's all about racism and white supremacy.

00:36:07.000 Like his worldview inverted overnight.

00:36:11.000 You know, it's sad to see, but I also have a question in this.

00:36:15.000 How does an individual's worldview change on a dime like that?

00:36:19.000 Fear.

00:36:20.000 Well, it's really, the answer is fear.

00:36:23.000 So the thousands of Democrats that I've talked to and progressives, They are legitimately terrified of Donald Trump.

00:36:31.000 I mean, they're actually terrified of him and his supporters. 0.93

00:36:35.000 They honestly do believe that you're a fascist.

00:36:37.000 They honestly do believe that you're a criminal if you support Trump, that you support a criminal, that Trump tried to coup against the United States.

00:36:46.000 They honestly believe this.

00:36:48.000 Now, take yourself and put yourself in their shoes, right?

00:36:51.000 As insane as that is.

00:36:53.000 You try to put yourself in their position.

00:36:55.000 If you thought the President of the United States had tried to coup, and was trying to bring in a government which was against every value that you had, and if he was elected again, that was it for you.

00:37:04.000 You were gonna, you know, off to the gulags with you. 0.68

00:37:06.000 You're talking about Harris?

00:37:07.000 Yeah, well, yeah, sure, right.

00:37:09.000 But I'm saying, from their perspective, right?

00:37:13.000 Them changing their worldview from that kind of fear actually makes sense to me.

00:37:16.000 It's like, okay, what else would you do?

00:37:19.000 I agree, I agree.

00:37:20.000 And it's fascinating because I would just describe it as them living in the upside down.

00:37:24.000 Totally.

00:37:26.000 They look in the mirror and they see a funhouse image of reality.

00:37:29.000 Take for instance, I'm absolutely loving the cat in Ohio story because Chris Rufo found a video from one year ago, before there was a controversy or scandal, of cats on a grill. 0.96

00:37:41.000 And a man saying, holy crap, they barbecuing cats. 0.92

00:37:45.000 And you hear a woman go, they got a cat on the grill? 0.98

00:37:47.000 And then it's an amazing video because there's a cat walking around and he gets like, man, look at that cat.

00:37:51.000 You better get missin' your homies at the grill! 1.00

00:37:54.000 He went and interviewed these people.

00:37:56.000 He interviewed the neighbors.

00:37:57.000 They all corroborated the story.

00:37:59.000 They found the grill.

00:38:00.000 Now, I will say this.

00:38:02.000 I have not seen any extra pictures of the grill.

00:38:05.000 I'm just saying, I trust Chris Ruvo.

00:38:06.000 He reported on this, saying he did these things.

00:38:08.000 But I tell ya, maybe it's not correct, but I did see a video that showed cats on a grill.

00:38:13.000 They come out and they say, nope, still not true.

00:38:15.000 Those are chickens. 1.00

00:38:16.000 Chickens' feet don't go down like that. 0.53

00:38:18.000 These look like cats on a grill.

00:38:20.000 Either way, we've got multiple videos from people from the town saying this is happening.

00:38:25.000 One guy's like, I've seen a guy with a whole truck full of cats.

00:38:27.000 And they're like, no, he's lying.

00:38:28.000 That's a lie.

00:38:29.000 They're all lying.

00:38:30.000 The city manager said there's no credible reports, so they're all lying.

00:38:32.000 Every single one.

00:38:33.000 Everyone is lying. The government is right.

00:38:35.000 Yeah, but they also above all else.

00:38:37.000 I mean, that's really what they're saying.

00:38:38.000 Chris Rufo is not from our institution and therefore there's no way he's credible.

00:38:42.000 We say what the.

00:38:43.000 Well, they're also they're also trying to gaslight you.

00:38:45.000 Right. Trying to actually gaslight you.

00:38:46.000 I think Chris Rufo is credible.

00:38:47.000 I just think mainstream media doesn't believe him.

00:38:49.000 And that was interesting, too, because you had Dana Bash bringing up Chris Rufo to J.D.

00:38:53.000 Vance, saying that he's a conservative political activist, basically with an axe to grind.

00:38:58.000 And Vance is like, you know what?

00:39:00.000 You guys weren't even talking about any of this before we brought it up.

00:39:03.000 And now, actually, these problems are getting some attention.

00:39:06.000 And one thing that he said that I thought was particularly compelling, you know, which is probably sort of obvious, but was actually compelling, is he said, I'm listening to my constituents.

00:39:15.000 They're telling me what's going on.

00:39:15.000 People are calling me.

00:39:17.000 I represent Ohio.

00:39:18.000 These are my people.

00:39:19.000 I wanted to bring their concerns to light.

00:39:21.000 It's important to them, so it's important to me.

00:39:24.000 And she's all, have you been to Springfield?

00:39:25.000 And he's like, not in the past four days, but about at least a hundred times in my life.

00:39:29.000 And he starts listing off places he takes his kids in Springfield.

00:39:32.000 There's also, I believe, the oversight committee or someone shared police reports of alleged cats being taken and things like this.

00:39:42.000 And so I don't know.

00:39:43.000 Those aren't the only animals, though.

00:39:44.000 For sure.

00:39:45.000 And so this is what cracks me up with this type of gaslighting.

00:39:48.000 So I've heard this before.

00:39:50.000 Yeah, maybe they're killing the local geese in the pond, right?

00:39:53.000 Maybe they're killing the local geese.

00:39:55.000 But you know what?

00:39:56.000 Rednecks out in the country do that all the time, right? 1.00

00:39:58.000 They go out and they hunt geese.

00:39:59.000 Which, true, they do.

00:40:01.000 When you're allowed to.

00:40:01.000 But yeah, but this is not common inside of major metropolitan areas or inside of towns and inside of cities, for people to go to the local pond, kill the geese, and grill them up.

00:40:14.000 And the fact that you would try to kind of convince me that that's normal, because guys out in the country, sometimes they'll poach, is insane.

00:40:22.000 That's insane. 0.95

00:40:23.000 Andrew, not eating cats is white supremacy. 0.94

00:40:25.000 That's totally, for sure.

00:40:26.000 The other thing too about it is that when they Everyone who's tried to discredit it, from Dana Bash to, what's his name, David Muir?

00:40:34.000 Muir.

00:40:36.000 DeMuir.

00:40:37.000 DeMuir, right.

00:40:38.000 He's mindful, that's right.

00:40:39.000 He's very mindful.

00:40:40.000 One thing that they keep doing is they keep talking to city officials, right?

00:40:44.000 And so one thing that the city officials did was they said, We tracked back through 911 calls, and then we tried to

00:40:50.000 contact some of the people who made these calls, and we couldn't get in touch with them

00:40:54.000 again.

00:40:54.000 And so we couldn't verify it.

00:40:56.000 And it's like, if you're some, you know, if you're some broke person in your town, and

00:41:02.000 you're like seeing, I mean, if you're in a position where you're seeing people like eat

00:41:06.000 cats and geese, like, you don't want to talk to the cops anyway.

00:41:09.000 So making a 911 call already is kind of a big deal.

00:41:12.000 You're not going to answer the phone.

00:41:13.000 I don't answer the phone when... I don't want to say anything about myself, but you know what I mean?

00:41:18.000 You don't want to answer the phone when authorities are calling.

00:41:22.000 They might not be there anymore.

00:41:23.000 And so that is not a good enough debunking of the claim.

00:41:29.000 There are a lot of domestic political stories that I want to get into too, especially this OhioCat story is crazy, but we gotta jump to this one from the New York Times.

00:41:37.000 Israel planted explosives in pagers sold to Hezbollah, officials say.

00:41:44.000 I am so far beyond, like, this is so far beyond belief.

00:41:48.000 The first thing I want to say is when I was live this morning when the first reports came in, someone super chatted my morning show saying, Israel just hacked and detonated pagers of thousands of Hezbollah soldiers.

00:41:59.000 And I was like, no way, dude.

00:42:01.000 That's a movie plot.

00:42:03.000 I immediately Googled it.

00:42:04.000 Jerusalem Post, Reuters.

00:42:07.000 Wall Street Journal. 0.99

00:42:08.000 And I went, holy crap. 0.96

00:42:09.000 Now, at the time, we did not know if it was Israel. 0.97

00:42:12.000 They'd remained silent, but the speculation was.

00:42:14.000 The New York Times has a headline now that officials say Israel did, in fact, do this.

00:42:20.000 They say small amounts of explosive were implanted in beepers that Hezbollah had ordered from a Taiwanese company, according to American and other officials briefed on the operation. 0.96

00:42:31.000 I can only just say, holy crap, the videos are insane. 0.91

00:42:35.000 This is Let me just stress. 0.98

00:42:38.000 Thousands.

00:42:38.000 What are they saying?

00:42:39.000 Is it around 2,000 now, or what's the number?

00:42:41.000 I think it was like 2,700, and at least eight people were killed.

00:42:45.000 They went off, and there's photos.

00:42:46.000 Many wounded, right?

00:42:47.000 Many wounded.

00:42:48.000 There's a photo of a guy who was riding his motorcycle with a pager on his hip.

00:42:52.000 It blew up, knocking him to the side, and he's got this smoldering gash on his side, and he's just slumped over.

00:43:01.000 There's one of the most prominent videos of a guy wearing a bag in a market with oranges or whatever.

00:43:05.000 His bag explodes and he falls down.

00:43:08.000 Think about what this means.

00:43:10.000 How did Israel intercept this order before it was shipped to Hezbollah?

00:43:16.000 Why was Hezbollah ordering pagers from Taiwan, a US ally?

00:43:20.000 I mean, this whole story is absolutely crazy.

00:43:22.000 I mean, what I think is crazy, and we're talking about this a little bit before the show, it's almost like Israel is trolling them because they specifically use pagers.

00:43:31.000 Now, I can't say why they chose Taiwan, but they use pagers because it's lo-fi, because they don't they don't they know

00:43:36.000 that Israel will hack their cell phones. 0.64

00:43:38.000 And it's a way of trying to avoid detection.

00:43:40.000 But obviously, Israel is clearly saying you can't escape us.

00:43:44.000 We are in control here.

00:43:46.000 And I just don't I don't think it's going to deescalate from

00:43:50.000 this. Not sure. I mean, trolling, I guess, to a degree.

00:43:53.000 To me, it just looks like good psychological warfare. 0.92

00:43:56.000 So the idea is to create panic in the enemy, you're never safe, anywhere, under any circumstances, even your own pager we can make kill you.

00:44:06.000 Now I have to tell you, from a strategic viewpoint, if I was, you know, taking a bird's eye view to this, that's a really good play!

00:44:13.000 Making a person's pager blow up their friend is a really, really good way to instill in the enemy, you are never safe from us.

00:44:24.000 It's an ultimate troll.

00:44:25.000 I mean, Hezbollah attacked Israel the other day. 0.99

00:44:27.000 I don't think anyone was killed, but blowing up somebody's pager is a crazy troll.

00:44:31.000 I want to say a few things because I think let's remove emotion from the matter and talk mathematically as it pertains to war.

00:44:40.000 You are correct.

00:44:41.000 This was a tremendously brilliant strategy on Israel's part for how to have effectively a mass simultaneous decentralized attack grid on Hezbollah soldiers. 0.76

00:44:52.000 I am not a big fan of the tactic however.

00:44:55.000 The idea, I would say this, I don't, I'm not a big fan of collateral damage.

00:45:00.000 And so I can respect the brilliance of the strategy, the operation.

00:45:04.000 I get that.

00:45:06.000 I mean, there's a guy in a marketplace with oranges.

00:45:08.000 They're innocent people who are getting caught in this.

00:45:10.000 And I'm not a fan of collateral damage, but I want to stress this too.

00:45:13.000 I want to make sure people understand that...

00:45:16.000 There's no rules in war.

00:45:17.000 There's none. 0.96

00:45:18.000 It's a silly argument.

00:45:19.000 We talk about war crimes. 0.98

00:45:21.000 I always thought that was silly.

00:45:22.000 I'm like... That's weird, yeah.

00:45:23.000 I understand the idea.

00:45:24.000 It's like, we're going to, if we win, and you did these things, you are going to regret it.

00:45:29.000 And that I understand.

00:45:31.000 But understand that our enemies, the enemies of Israel, whatever, I'm not saying they're the same enemies, I'm saying Israel's enemies, we have enemies, they don't care about what we think the rules are. 0.95

00:45:41.000 And so the only thing I can say is, I don't want to be involved in Israel's war and conflicts, Lebanon, Iran, or otherwise.

00:45:48.000 I don't know that we have an exit because our establishment leaders have already entangled us in this for generations.

00:45:55.000 In which case, man... And the Israeli lobby is extremely powerful. 0.74

00:46:01.000 Agreed.

00:46:01.000 So the challenge for me is...

00:46:04.000 Yeah, I don't know enough about what has been going on, why they did this, how it impacted the strategy.

00:46:09.000 Will it end the war?

00:46:10.000 Will it escalate things?

00:46:11.000 I don't know.

00:46:12.000 So the only thing I can say on the surface is, while I obviously condemn war and violence, the strategy was of such an intelligent and extremely capable caliber, I am shocked and impressed by it.

00:46:26.000 I can't believe they pulled this off.

00:46:28.000 I wish war wasn't happening.

00:46:30.000 But I gotta stress, like, Israel, man, they are not to be trifled with.

00:46:33.000 Well, not only that, but, I mean, my pushback would be kind of the same, I know we were discussing this earlier, but my pushback here is kind of the same, that I do legitimately think, inside of warfare, that the civilian population is the population which feeds the soldiers, it is the population which makes the bullets, it is the population which makes the bombs, etc., etc.

00:46:53.000 I have never been of mind, from a strategic standpoint, that civilian population centers would be off the table inside of warfare.

00:47:01.000 Well, that was sort of Castro's idea, is that his revolution could not succeed without the help of the civilian population.

00:47:08.000 I mean, that's just all warfare.

00:47:10.000 Right, sure, but that was sort of his theory, that he would never be taken down so long as he had the support of the people.

00:47:16.000 But the idea here, inside of warfare, is everything. Well, that was warfare too, yeah. Just like

00:47:23.000 everything that is supporting your army and your military force is given to you from the civilian

00:47:29.000 population, all of it. So when people...

00:47:33.000 That's the argument for the attack on Dresden. Well, I mean...

00:47:36.000 Was it Easter Sunday?

00:47:38.000 Yeah, or the attack from Nagasaki or Hiroshima or any of these things.

00:47:42.000 But the point is, is like, we did it.

00:47:44.000 And we did it because these population mechas, if they're gone, you can't support the army. 0.95

00:47:50.000 So I'm not sure that I would take the idea of like, collateral damage, or things like this.

00:47:55.000 If you're in open warfare, legitimately, civilian targets are going to be on the table.

00:48:02.000 They just legitimately are.

00:48:04.000 Yeah, I think that is something that the Western community is sort of tiptoeing around here.

00:48:10.000 We hear reports about civilian casualties on both sides pretty repeatedly.

00:48:14.000 And at the same time, no one is willing to say, like, OK, we must now stop this.

00:48:19.000 And I think in some ways it's an acknowledgment.

00:48:20.000 Well, it's because both sides cry foul, too.

00:48:22.000 Right.

00:48:22.000 And you also realize that, like, you can't.

00:48:24.000 You can't hold either side accountable to stopping being this outside influence, not being directly involved in the conflict.

00:48:30.000 Well, the first thing the Israelis do if there's civilian casualties is they run out in front of the cameras and say, hey, look, okay?

00:48:37.000 You know, Hezbollah came in and look at all these civilians that they killed, okay? 0.99

00:48:41.000 That is the first thing that they're going to look to.

00:48:43.000 That's off the table.

00:48:44.000 But this is done the other way, too.

00:48:45.000 Oh, look at all the civilians that the Israelis killed if you're Hezbollah. 0.99

00:48:49.000 They both use the same tactic because in the public's mind, that is an off-the-table target.

00:48:54.000 But in reality, from a strategic bird's-eye view, of course that's not off the table.

00:49:00.000 You ever see, uh, War of the Worlds?

00:49:02.000 Yeah.

00:49:02.000 The original and the remake.

00:49:03.000 And, uh, I remember reading a very funny, uh, opinion piece, movie review.

00:49:08.000 And it's like, aha, how funny, the aliens come and attack Earth, and then they succumb to illness, they end up dying or whatever.

00:49:15.000 And it said, the reality is that if any alien force had the capability to come to Earth, they would immediately target our oil fields and the entire world would shut down within two or three days.

00:49:25.000 End of story.

00:49:26.000 Our energy sources are ripped from us, power plants shut down, and then the planet's over.

00:49:32.000 So when we're talking about war, what people need to understand is, for the most part, We are trying to be gentlemen.

00:49:39.000 When you hear these stories and it's like, well, we only engage military targets, this is gentlemanly, but it's not real war.

00:49:45.000 No.

00:49:46.000 Real war is going to be like what we see in the Middle East with ISIS, when a suicide bomber runs into a daycare or something and just knows they're going to hit us, they're going to hit our allies where it hurts.

00:49:58.000 Barack Obama, here we go, you ready for this one?

00:50:00.000 Killed Abdulrahman al-Awlaki, a 16-year-old American citizen, in a drone strike in Yemen.

00:50:04.000 We are not at war with Yemen.

00:50:06.000 The drone targeted a civilian restaurant.

00:50:09.000 It killed more, my understanding is more than just Abdulrahman Al-Awlaki, who is a 16-year-old from, I believe he was born in Boulder, Colorado, lived in San Diego.

00:50:16.000 The official response was, they had been targeting an al-Qaeda leader, and they had bad intel.

00:50:22.000 It was an accident.

00:50:23.000 I don't believe that for a second.

00:50:26.000 Anwar al-Awlaki, his dad, was also killed in a drone strike, and this man was an American citizen.

00:50:31.000 The argument that was made by the Uniparty establishment was that Anwar was an enemy of this country, was a jihadi rallying people to fight against us, and therefore he was an enemy combatant.

00:50:41.000 There's an argument there.

00:50:42.000 I say that's a tough one.

00:50:43.000 There's an argument there.

00:50:45.000 The Constitution still protects that someone who is an American citizen will get charged, will get a trial, and not just be blown up in war.

00:50:50.000 If, however, someone is actively in a combat zone and they're attacking you, I don't think such a premise is reasonable.

00:50:58.000 That being said, I don't believe for a second the killing of a son was an accident. 0.66

00:51:02.000 I believe, in my opinion, purely my opinion, the Obama administration said, we're going to send a message to Al-Qaeda, we're going to send a message to Iran, kill his kid.

00:51:13.000 I believe that the Obama administration intentionally targeted a civilian restaurant in a country we're not at war with to kill the child of a jihadi so that all of these people would know the United States is not above killing your children if you fight against us. 0.94

00:51:25.000 Sending terror to all of them.

00:51:27.000 There's another famous story that we were listening to recently where Donald Trump sent some guy a picture of his house.

00:51:33.000 Have you guys been familiar with this one?

00:51:34.000 Do you guys remember this?

00:51:35.000 I don't know what it was.

00:51:36.000 I think it was the Taliban.

00:51:38.000 And Trump's negotiating and Trump says, send a picture of his house.

00:51:42.000 And the guy says, why do you send a picture of my house?

00:51:43.000 He's like, you have to figure that one out.

00:51:45.000 But there's a, there's, there's a point that we know where you are, we know who you are, and we have the power to get you.

00:51:50.000 There's a lot of questions about the killing of Abdul Rahman al-Awlaki.

00:51:53.000 Why did we bomb a country we're not at war with? 0.54

00:51:56.000 Why were we targeting civilians?

00:51:57.000 And how did we accidentally kill this guy?

00:51:59.000 I think it's unreasonable to assume those are all accidents.

00:52:02.000 I think it's actually simple.

00:52:04.000 Barack Obama said, make sure they all know the price you will pay if you raise arms against the United States.

00:52:09.000 Sure.

00:52:10.000 But here, but let's, I mean, let's look at this objectively too.

00:52:13.000 This idea of rights as a United States citizen.

00:52:17.000 These are really just constructions of the mind.

00:52:19.000 There's no such thing as an actual right.

00:52:22.000 It doesn't exist outside of some axiomatic kind of philosophical principled belief, right?

00:52:27.000 I have the axiom that I have inalienable rights and so therefore I have them.

00:52:30.000 I disagree.

00:52:31.000 Okay, we can get into that in a second, but to finish my point, okay?

00:52:35.000 Based on this, we kind of suspend them all the time and then kind of pretend like we don't.

00:52:41.000 We let cops be judge, jury, and executioner in many moments and kind of excuse them from it.

00:52:46.000 If there's something which is going on that's in such a state of emergency, we'll suspend the constitutional rights of people.

00:52:53.000 In a moment's notice, we'll send the Japanese to internment camps. 1.00

00:52:56.000 We will do all of those things because we've done it.

00:52:58.000 We'll suspend your constitutional rights in a second, if we think we need to.

00:53:02.000 Which, by the way, that would be my argument for how I know rights aren't real anyway.

00:53:06.000 But we will, and we just kind of excuse it.

00:53:08.000 But there's a correction here.

00:53:09.000 Government-enshrined protections are not real.

00:53:12.000 Rights, as we know them, are just things that we recognize as things of value to us.

00:53:19.000 So for instance, I usually define it as simply, you have a right to speak freely.

00:53:24.000 If you're in the middle of the woods and you're buck naked, you can say whatever you want.

00:53:26.000 You have a right to keep and bear arms.

00:53:28.000 Pick up a stick, sharpen it, pointy stick, you can defend yourself.

00:53:30.000 Ain't no one gonna stop you.

00:53:31.000 The question is, when you get into conflict with someone else, where is that line drawn?

00:53:34.000 So the reality is, Rights are recognized as things that we can and must do to survive and maximize potential.

00:53:42.000 I think rights are force.

00:53:43.000 And I think that... You think rights are force?

00:53:45.000 Government protections are force.

00:53:46.000 What do you mean rights are force?

00:53:47.000 You're talking about government protections.

00:53:49.000 No, I'm talking about period.

00:53:50.000 I'll explain what I mean.

00:53:51.000 A right to me is an entitlement absent duty.

00:53:54.000 That's a right.

00:53:55.000 Okay, you're entitled to it, but you have no duty.

00:53:57.000 What does that mean?

00:53:59.000 Entitlement to speak.

00:54:00.000 Yeah, so if you have a right to own a gun.

00:54:02.000 To speak.

00:54:03.000 No, hang on, let me finish.

00:54:04.000 If you have a right to own a gun, do you have a duty to own a gun?

00:54:08.000 Do you have a duty to speak?

00:54:10.000 No, you don't have a duty to speak.

00:54:12.000 If you have a right to vote, do you have a duty to vote?

00:54:14.000 Yeah, it's an entitlement absent a duty.

00:54:14.000 That's your argument.

00:54:15.000 But you can speak.

00:54:21.000 Yeah, you can.

00:54:21.000 Until you can't.

00:54:23.000 Until somebody stops you with force.

00:54:25.000 So you're talking about government restrictions are made up by us as a people?

00:54:29.000 No, just people can adhere to your rights without any form of government.

00:54:33.000 If you're walking down the street and you speak and a guy turns around and smacks you in the mouth and breaks your jaw, right?

00:54:39.000 He has now used force against whatever this right you think you have to speak. 0.99

00:54:43.000 You have no right to do shit except whatever you can enforce. 0.94

00:54:48.000 Your mechanism is force, and the mechanism against you is force. 0.99

00:54:52.000 All rights are is force.

00:54:53.000 You're talking about government protections, not rights.

00:54:55.000 No, I'm talking about rights.

00:54:56.000 What is a right?

00:54:57.000 So, it is an intrinsic moral function.

00:55:01.000 Intrinsic meaning what?

00:55:03.000 Again, I'll try to explain.

00:55:05.000 If you're born and you live in the middle of the woods, there are things you can do.

00:55:08.000 You can hunt for food, you can defend yourself, you can speak freely.

00:55:10.000 Now, what we've done in the United States... Unless you're born blind and you can't talk, right?

00:55:15.000 Then where does your right to speak come from?

00:55:17.000 You lack the ability to speak, but you still have the means by which you are allowed to do it.

00:55:22.000 Yeah, but what makes it an intrinsic right to be able to do?

00:55:25.000 Like, where does this idea come from other than you axiomatically kind of just say, you say, because I can do something, I have the right to do something?

00:55:34.000 It's part of an evolutionary biological structure that resulted in the survival So if I, like, grab a spear and I can stab somebody with it, I have a right to?

00:55:42.000 No, that's attacking somebody.

00:55:44.000 That's violating.

00:55:45.000 But other than an axiom of you shouldn't do that because I just don't feel like you should, what makes it intrinsic that I don't do that?

00:55:53.000 That you don't go and kill another person?

00:55:54.000 Yeah.

00:55:55.000 So the way I view rights would be things that, and again, there's a debate over what rights are.

00:56:02.000 Yeah, let's start with that.

00:56:03.000 No, no, so it's honestly difficult to define, but it is certain moral structures or... I would say axioms.

00:56:03.000 What are they?

00:56:12.000 Would you agree with that?

00:56:13.000 Just an axiom.

00:56:14.000 So, like, you have inalienable rights from God according to the Constitution.

00:56:18.000 This is an axiomatic principle.

00:56:20.000 It means this is our, like, philosophical starting point is that we have these.

00:56:23.000 I would put it as things that were required or greatly beneficial to the survival of an individual that we...

00:56:34.000 I agree.

00:56:35.000 I agree we benefit.

00:56:36.000 I just don't know what makes them intrinsic or like you're born with them or something like this other than we just kind of agree to it.

00:56:43.000 So I think the restrictions we kind of agree to.

00:56:45.000 And some people might view some things as rights and other things not as rights.

00:56:48.000 Like the left thinks healthcare is a human right which makes literally no sense.

00:56:51.000 No sense.

00:56:52.000 But in terms of your ability to speak, you can walk around, you can speak to defend yourself,

00:56:55.000 you can pick up a stick, you can defend yourself.

00:56:56.000 But this goes back to the same argument of, I can grab a spear and murder somebody, I

00:57:00.000 can do that, why don't I have a right to do that?

00:57:04.000 Because you are now causing harm to another person, which is a detriment to you.

00:57:06.000 But why is that valuable?

00:57:07.000 Why are other people valuable?

00:57:10.000 Yeah, well why would that be an intrinsic value?

00:57:12.000 So like I think the vision of a planet, for instance...

00:57:13.000 One would result in the end of humanity and one results in the expansion of humanity.

00:57:16.000 Well, no, both can result in the expansion of humanity.

00:57:20.000 Right, but absolutely not.

00:57:22.000 You're completely wrong.

00:57:23.000 No, I'm completely right.

00:57:24.000 You are wrong.

00:57:25.000 Self-defense can result in expansion of humanity if you're using destruction for the purpose of ending something that is destructive.

00:57:30.000 But if you are wantonly going around murdering people, you're actively reducing and harming humanity.

00:57:35.000 Well, okay, but that doesn't mean that you couldn't expand humanity by harming people.

00:57:39.000 There's nations that do this all the time.

00:57:41.000 So the argument of self-defense is, there are things that we believe we must be able to do for the betterment and survival of humanity.

00:57:47.000 Yeah, but when I'm asking you this question, right, I'm asking the foundation from which you say, I have the right to speak or write or things like this.

00:57:57.000 We need to be able to in order to survive.

00:58:01.000 Because you need to do something.

00:58:03.000 I'm not sure how that means you have a right to it, though.

00:58:05.000 Okay, so speech is not just saying words.

00:58:08.000 You have a right to eat?

00:58:09.000 Yes, 100%.

00:58:11.000 Really?

00:58:12.000 You have a right to do that?

00:58:13.000 Why would you not have a right to do that?

00:58:14.000 Yes, you don't have a right to own food, but you have a right to eat, otherwise you'll die!

00:58:17.000 Yeah.

00:58:17.000 I don't understand.

00:58:18.000 Do you have a right to breathe?

00:58:19.000 What about breathing?

00:58:20.000 These are good questions, right?

00:58:22.000 Again, again, I don't think you understand.

00:58:23.000 We're talking about intrinsic behaviors that are required for survival versus the government and humans deciding what we shouldn't have in our lives.

00:58:29.000 I don't think we're speaking past each other.

00:58:30.000 I'm asking what makes them intrinsic.

00:58:31.000 When you say, I have a right to eat, okay?

00:58:33.000 If you don't, you'll die.

00:58:34.000 If that guy has all the food over there, You no longer have a right to eat. 0.71

00:58:38.000 We're not talking about your right to steal from others.

00:58:41.000 If you're standing in the woods by yourself, eat that mushroom.

00:58:46.000 Okay, got it.

00:58:48.000 You can eat the mushroom.

00:58:50.000 But what makes it a right to eat that mushroom?

00:58:52.000 And what makes it not a right for a guy standing next to the mushroom to say, I have a gun and I don't want you to eat that mushroom?

00:58:59.000 You're now once again talking about laws and restrictions.

00:59:03.000 Yeah, okay, but my whole theory is that rights themselves are force, and that's all they ever are.

00:59:10.000 It's just your ability to use force to do things you want to do.

00:59:13.000 I think you're just making it up.

00:59:14.000 You call that a right?

00:59:16.000 I call rights things that are essential to the survival of humanity.

00:59:19.000 So you have a right to your heart beating, and your blood flowing, and to blink, and to... Yes.

00:59:24.000 Okay, so if you just... So now you misunderstand because once again you're talking about government again.

00:59:29.000 How is this government?

00:59:30.000 Okay, if you are standing in the middle of the woods and your heart is beating, your heart has a right to beat.

00:59:30.000 It doesn't need to be government.

00:59:35.000 If your heart fails and you die, you died.

00:59:36.000 What you're making an argument that someone should or should not be allowed to do something is an entirely human social construct.

00:59:43.000 I agree.

00:59:44.000 Right.

00:59:44.000 I'm saying that the reason we have protections of rights is because we've determined certain things are required for the reasonable survival and expansion of humanity.

00:59:55.000 I agree we agree to those things, and we act as though they're rights, but I don't think rights themselves exist.

01:00:02.000 The Bill of Rights is a recognition of certain things that we do for the betterment of survival that must be protected from government.

01:00:09.000 Now if you want to argue the amendments in the Bill of Rights are nonsensical, fine.

01:00:12.000 If you want to have a moral argument or philosophical argument about what is required or intrinsic to the survival of humanity, by all means have that argument.

01:00:19.000 But rights do exist, it just means some you might not agree with and some you might think aren't.

01:00:23.000 Those are philosophical debates.

01:00:24.000 Yeah, but when you say exist, right, do you mean outside of your brain they exist, or do they only exist as a construction of your mind where you say, I have a right to do X?

01:00:35.000 If we observe creatures in the wild, we will see them required to do things to survive.

01:00:40.000 Yeah, okay, so... If you inhibit those things, they will die.

01:00:42.000 So if just rights to you... We protect those things.

01:00:45.000 So rights to you just mean things which are a requirement for your existence?

01:00:50.000 And typically we define them as such because they transcend the basic obvious things like breathing and drinking water.

01:00:56.000 Owning a gun isn't a requirement to your existence.

01:00:58.000 No, defending yourself is.

01:01:00.000 If a bear comes in the middle of the woods and you don't have the ability to defend yourself, you cease to exist and humans cease to exist.

01:01:05.000 So humans do defend themselves, then as human society we've decided this should be protected otherwise humans will cease to exist.

01:01:11.000 Yeah, but why?

01:01:12.000 Okay, but this makes no sense, right?

01:01:14.000 So if all right is to you, Tim, is Thing X, which is necessary for the survival of a man.

01:01:21.000 In this case, blinking and breathing and eating and, you know, pooping and whatever.

01:01:25.000 The right to poop should not be under, you know, because you have a right to do that, because it's like something you need to do to be alive.

01:01:31.000 Right, but you can't poop on someone's floor.

01:01:32.000 Why couldn't you extend that to literally everything?

01:01:34.000 You need healthcare to survive.

01:01:36.000 You need guns to survive, you need a house to survive, you need everything to survive.

01:01:42.000 I think we should move on, but I think the challenge is, I don't know if you're unwilling to understand or what, you have no right to take other things from other people, to take their labor, you have no right to force a doctor to perform surgery on you, but you certainly have a right to ask him for it.

01:01:55.000 Those are just assertions, like you just assert these things as No, they have a grounding epistemic foundation from which you can make the assertion.

01:02:03.000 Based on where do you make the assertion that you're not allowed to do X other than because Tim Pool's preference is that you don't?

01:02:12.000 And I'm literally saying you're talking about laws and social order right now, not human behaviors for survival.

01:02:16.000 I think human behaviors are laws and social orders.

01:02:19.000 I think you're saying the same thing.

01:02:22.000 No, if a person was in the middle of the woods, they'd be foraging and looking for food.

01:02:25.000 Yeah, what does that have to do with what I just said?

01:02:28.000 You're talking about what the government can and can't do.

01:02:30.000 I'm talking about what humans need to do to survive.

01:02:31.000 Yeah, okay.

01:02:32.000 Well, humans also have to have other humans around to survive.

01:02:34.000 And so this is, communication is essential, the right to defend yourself is essential, the right to secure your possessions is essential.

01:02:40.000 These things, without them, humans cease to function properly, and then you get the Soviet bloc, you get starvation, you get genocides. 0.96

01:02:46.000 It's a function of our belief system in the United States that we have natural rights.

01:02:51.000 I mean, that's a huge part.

01:02:53.000 I agree with that.

01:02:54.000 I agree with that, that in the United States, we agree that we have them.

01:02:59.000 Not sure that we do.

01:03:00.000 I think that you can say that everyone has these rights, and it's a function of whether or not their government allows the rights to be recognized.

01:03:07.000 That's the contention.

01:03:08.000 When you say, I think everybody has these rights.

01:03:11.000 Yeah, that is my belief.

01:03:12.000 Yeah, it's a belief based on Based on existence, I mean.

01:03:18.000 Yeah, based on just your preferences.

01:03:21.000 I don't think it's a preference.

01:03:22.000 I think everyone has a right to breathe.

01:03:25.000 And you do.

01:03:26.000 In the big picture of what are the list of fundamental rights that exist to humans, cultures debate these things wildly, but there are a small handful which are true and correct.

01:03:34.000 If inhibited, a person dies.

01:03:36.000 Agreed.

01:03:37.000 But what I'm saying, I guess my overarching point, and I can just kind of tie it off with this.

01:03:42.000 Is that when I say rights are force, what I'm saying is the thing that you say is necessary, breathing, eating, these types of things.

01:03:48.000 I think that those things, which you call rights, really are just force.

01:03:53.000 You're saying I will use force in order to do this thing that I want to do to necessarily exist.

01:03:58.000 And that another person can use force to stop those things from existing.

01:04:03.000 And then you can use force to stop them.

01:04:04.000 Right, and then you can use force, etc., etc., but all we're really doing is just moving the goalposts of force around, right? 0.62

01:04:10.000 So if this group says, this group does not have the right to breathe, they do not have the right to eat, they do not have the right to do any of this shit, and they go and put a stop to it, what are we appealing to for why it is that you can't do that? 0.77

01:04:21.000 That group doesn't have the right to do that. 0.97

01:04:23.000 Yeah, but that makes no sense.

01:04:25.000 Why wouldn't they have the right to do that?

01:04:27.000 You're saying might makes right, which is what it makes.

01:04:30.000 Beyond that, I think you're making a post-modernist argument for why you should be allowed to do things that other people don't want you to do.

01:04:35.000 I think you—well, no, I think the opposite is true.

01:04:37.000 I'm making— I would use the justification of God And I would appeal to something which is unchanging, and an unchanging standard for moral justifications for oughts.

01:04:47.000 But what you're doing, when you say a right, and you're appealing to, like, the Constitution, that's postmodernist, subjective standards of nonsense, right?

01:04:56.000 It's just like— No, it's moral foundations.

01:04:57.000 We all decided that we have these rights, so we do.

01:05:00.000 There's no justification for any of them.

01:05:02.000 So you don't believe any intrinsic moral foundations?

01:05:02.000 Zero.

01:05:06.000 No, I do believe in intrinsic moral foundations and epistemic justifications and ontological justifications which would come from God.

01:05:13.000 I think you're doing deconstructivist reasoning to argue why— This is just basic philosophy.

01:05:17.000 It has nothing to do with deconstruction or postmodernism.

01:05:20.000 Basic philosophy, you have to have a justification for a position.

01:05:23.000 And when I've given you one, you just reject it every time.

01:05:25.000 Because they're axiomatic.

01:05:27.000 So you haven't demonstrated why the axiom or the starting point, we start with rights, Andrew.

01:05:32.000 You haven't demonstrated why we do other than because I observe that if we don't act in this way, you expire.

01:05:39.000 But it's like, okay, but why is that even bad?

01:05:41.000 Like, why is that even a bad thing?

01:05:43.000 Why is it bad that humans cease to exist?

01:05:44.000 Yeah, why would that even be a bad thing from the worldview of rights?

01:05:47.000 Like, oh, okay, if you don't have this right, you die.

01:05:49.000 But you haven't justified why that's even a bad thing.

01:05:52.000 Because humans exist through a pattern of evolution towards—or creation, whichever

01:05:55.000 you decide—to be fruitful, to bear fruit, and etc.

01:06:00.000 These things are components of creation and life.

01:06:03.000 I think this aligns perfectly with, like, a Christian, Judo-Christian moral worldview, 0.95

01:06:07.000 and I think these things are requirements for the efficient expansion and fruitfulness

01:06:12.000 of humans.

01:06:13.000 So they are natural, either from an evolutionary standpoint—humans developed to inherit certain

01:06:21.000 requirements to function efficiently—and when these things are curtailed, we see inefficiency

01:06:26.000 and collapse, disease and chaos.

01:06:28.000 This is circular.

01:06:29.000 So you go, okay, we need to bear fruit and multiply.

01:06:34.000 Why?

01:06:34.000 Well, because then we can exist.

01:06:36.000 Why do we need to exist?

01:06:37.000 Because then we can bear fruit and multiply.

01:06:39.000 Okay, but why?

01:06:40.000 Because then we can exist.

01:06:42.000 You're just being contrarian for now.

01:06:43.000 It's not contrarian.

01:06:44.000 I'm giving you a real principle.

01:06:46.000 Do you believe in God?

01:06:47.000 Yeah, I'm a Christian.

01:06:48.000 So when God says there's a mandate to be fruitful and multiply, do you say yes or no?

01:06:51.000 Yeah, of course.

01:06:51.000 Are there certain characteristics and behaviors that result in more efficient, fruitful multiplying?

01:06:56.000 Of course.

01:06:57.000 Hang on, this is divine command justification.

01:07:00.000 Divine command has nothing to do with libertarian nonsense of constitutional egalitarianism.

01:07:06.000 Having a discussion on the merits of what rights might mean, you're instead upset over what libertarians think rights might mean as opposed to what I'm actually trying to say.

01:07:13.000 Okay, well, do you justify rights as coming from God?

01:07:19.000 Okay, great.

01:07:19.000 Yes.

01:07:20.000 Well then we're fine there.

01:07:22.000 So I think we actually agree.

01:07:24.000 So then if that is the case, if whatever you think rights are come from God, then whatever else we're appealing to external to God for where a right comes from isn't really a right, right?

01:07:36.000 It's not really a right?

01:07:38.000 I think that Life, goodness, creation, there is deep overlap.

01:07:45.000 I think a simple way to look at it is, you know, yin-yang, within good there is some evil, within evil there is some good.

01:07:50.000 And a way to explain that is, sometimes we have to destroy to create.

01:07:53.000 What does that mean?

01:07:54.000 If there's a mass murderer who's murdering children, we unfortunately, we don't want to, but we stop that person to defend ourselves and others' lives.

01:08:01.000 I think that there is divine mandate, that we must be fruitful, multiply.

01:08:06.000 We are here to organize, to create.

01:08:08.000 There's a secular way of looking at it.

01:08:09.000 It's evolution that developed us to this point where we have internalized these things that we must do, or that result in a more efficient way of life.

01:08:16.000 Or, more simply, there is a God, there is a divine structure and mandate, which results in certain things that are beneficial to mankind, that I would describe as good and just, and there are things that are evil and unjust.

01:08:27.000 So as we get to the heart of it then, right here, where we come to this agreement, Where I reject this is that I think all the things you just stated are duties.

01:08:35.000 They're duties.

01:08:36.000 They're the opposite of rights.

01:08:37.000 You have a duty.

01:08:38.000 I just think we're having a semantic argument.

01:08:40.000 But semantics are super important so we don't speak past each other.

01:08:43.000 So when I say a duty, it's an obligation to do a thing based on the fact that you're commanded to, in this case by God.

01:08:49.000 A right, I would say, is an entitlement absent duty.

01:08:52.000 So if that's the case, What you're listing out is like, God is giving us these duties to do.

01:08:58.000 I'm not sure what rights he's giving you.

01:09:00.000 I'm saying there are certain behaviors that God...

01:09:06.000 That there are certain behaviors, there are certain functions of life that are a component of God's divine plan mandate.

01:09:15.000 I could argue it in a secular way for people who don't believe in God or whatever.

01:09:18.000 There's a natural structure of the universe that says to humans, be fruitful and multiply, and these things are important for the efficient structure of such.

01:09:26.000 That being said, we definitely should talk about Diddy, but I do appreciate it.

01:09:29.000 I thought that was fun.

01:09:30.000 It was fun.

01:09:31.000 I love the philosophical discussions, but I think the audience is like, I want to hear about Diddy!

01:09:36.000 Here we go from the New York Post.

01:09:37.000 Sean Diddy Combs to be held without bail in sex trafficking case, says the judge.

01:09:43.000 Combs, 54, did not visibly react as a Manhattan Federal Magistrate Judge Robin Tarnovsky remanded him into custody following a nearly two-hour long hearing where he sat without handcuffs at the defense table wearing a black shirt and dark gray sweatpants, blah blah blah.

01:09:57.000 Okay, so here's what everyone wants to know.

01:09:59.000 They found like a thousand bottles of lube or something?

01:10:02.000 It was total craziness, yeah.

01:10:05.000 99 bottles of lube on the wall.

01:10:06.000 Did you listen to the press conference on this?

01:10:09.000 I caught a clip of it and it's one of these things that's just the more he talked the more ridiculous it got like one of the accusations is that he's involved with basically sex trafficking and there are like professionals from males and females who were forced to like perform in hours long Freak offs where he was like them with ketamine and all

01:10:29.000 this stuff and he flew them across state lines, huh?

01:10:32.000 It's like Elliot Spitzer which makes it, you know trap like a transportation for the purpose of prostitution and he had

01:10:38.000 them do all of These crazy things. Yeah, I think it's every time the guy

01:10:41.000 would just be like so these freak offs Freak offs what I kept thinking too was like

01:10:48.000 You know all of the songs about like I'm a pimp or whatever and it's like oh like for real

01:10:54.000 It wasn't you like posturing you were like, no, I have really your jam. Yeah crazy

01:10:59.000 It's also one of these things here. It's like I I don't, you know, you see those pages in like tabloids where they're like, celebrities are just like us.

01:11:07.000 No, they're not.

01:11:08.000 No, celebrities are not just like us.

01:11:10.000 They're hooked on their own ego and fame, and they'll do anything for just a little bit more.

01:11:15.000 Some of them are alright, right?

01:11:16.000 Not all of them are.

01:11:17.000 I mean, you can't talk absolutes.

01:11:19.000 On the other hand, like, look, I feel like nobody is safe right now.

01:11:22.000 This was a real weird one.

01:11:23.000 Yeah.

01:11:24.000 Well, so in this one, if I remember correctly, there was a run up here, right?

01:11:28.000 Like this was expected.

01:11:29.000 Nobody didn't think.

01:11:30.000 I mean, it was like going back to 2003 or something.

01:11:33.000 There were videos, but I mean, it all started, I think, when he settled with his ex-girlfriend and then a whole bunch of other women were like, me too.

01:11:43.000 And his attorneys will argue that the law in New York changed so that it expanded the time frame which these complaints could be brought against him.

01:11:50.000 So his ex-girlfriend Cassidy brought a complaint against him.

01:11:53.000 A couple other women did. 1.00

01:11:54.000 Cassidy, the video... Cassie?

01:11:56.000 Cassie, sorry.

01:11:58.000 But she's been working with the feds for a while on this.

01:12:01.000 And there's that video that leaked online where it's like him beating her up in a gym or something.

01:12:04.000 It was pretty brutal.

01:12:05.000 They're chasing each other.

01:12:06.000 But then afterwards, there was like that raid on his house.

01:12:09.000 His cell phone was seized in Miami at the airport.

01:12:12.000 What he was going to, was it Bermuda?

01:12:15.000 Yeah, he has like another house or something.

01:12:16.000 Well, I was in the Fresh and Fit studio when that originally broke with the kind of idea That, okay, now the girlfriend is working with the feds, and they're collecting evidence, and it was kind of expected even then, this was months ago, that this was going to happen, right?

01:12:31.000 The prediction was, okay, this guy's likely going to get arrested and tried for this, and it looks like there is actually some there there.

01:12:36.000 That's why he moved back to New York, in order to be on hand.

01:12:40.000 In order to be on hand, and he figured, like, if I'm in New York, and they arrest me, they'll let me out on bail, and it'll be fine, and instead he was remanded without bail.

01:12:49.000 They're saying, people are all tweeting that he's going to get Epstein'd.

01:12:52.000 Well, I don't know why they'd want to do that, because then they would lose the guy that they're trying to, you know, yell at and convict.

01:12:58.000 And I assume they're going to name other people.

01:12:59.000 Maybe it's because, like with Epstein, he has a big client list that might involve some powerful people, and they don't want that list to be revealed.

01:13:06.000 And so Diddy's music, just to have some powerful friends on it.

01:13:10.000 He's Black Epstein. 0.97

01:13:12.000 That's hilarious.

01:13:12.000 I didn't say that.

01:13:13.000 That's actually what's been reported in the press.

01:13:14.000 I mean, I think what's interesting is that we get this name.

01:13:14.000 No, I know.

01:13:17.000 It draws attention back to a story that's, to your point, been simmering on the back burner for a little bit.

01:13:22.000 But who else?

01:13:23.000 I mean, none of Epstein's clients ever got named as far as I can tell.

01:13:26.000 They didn't really face any consequences.

01:13:29.000 So in this case, you know, he might go down for it.

01:13:32.000 On the other hand, This seems like somebody who doesn't want to and also has a large ego.

01:13:38.000 And so I assume he'll give people up to save himself.

01:13:43.000 You remember, where was this video?

01:13:44.000 This was like just a week ago.

01:13:47.000 I saw this where Trump was asked if he's going to release more of the names for Epstein and this type of thing.

01:13:55.000 He said he would.

01:13:55.000 Oh, yeah.

01:13:56.000 He did, but he also was like, well, we have to be cautious, though, because there's some names which may be on the list that, you know, it could be a fraud or it could be this, so we have to be cautious.

01:14:08.000 He said he wasn't on it for sure.

01:14:09.000 He said he wasn't, but you know, there might be some people here, so we don't want to release everything, maybe.

01:14:09.000 He did.

01:14:14.000 Well, I remember when we were at the old studio, do you remember this?

01:14:16.000 A huge trove of documents had been released.

01:14:18.000 Not like a list, but just documents related.

01:14:20.000 And we're reading through it, and it mentions what we assume is Prince Andrew, and then another unnamed prince.

01:14:26.000 And we were all sort of like, who is this person?

01:14:29.000 So I totally believe that there are people on that list that the US government is like, Bringing this person to light will have serious diplomatic consequences.

01:14:36.000 I could understand that level of caution.

01:14:38.000 On the other hand, at what point are you actually just covering up for people you're not actually being cautious for national security?

01:14:44.000 Here's a question for you guys.

01:14:45.000 If, let's say you're an investigator, you're a prosecutor, and you're looking at Dainty and he's staring at you, he's got this grim look on his face, and then he pulls up his phone and he slides you a video of Seven powerful world leaders from various countries and they're all engaging in some extremely, let's just say, human rights violations that could remove them from power, shock the country and result in destabilization of regions, potentially cause conflicts and wars.

01:15:14.000 Maybe it's like I don't know, like a religious leader from one country with a religious leader from another country of opposing religions having a homosexual relationship or something. 0.62

01:15:22.000 That would be wild. 0.65

01:15:24.000 And you're like, okay, what they're doing is a crime in the United States.

01:15:28.000 If we bring this evidence to court, and it somehow gets released, these countries may start, they go to war.

01:15:36.000 Do you then say, you know, do you take the moral absolutist position of we don't compromise, the criminal must be brought to justice, or, you know, it's kind of like... I would do, so I would look at it... Rorschach or Dr. Manhattan?

01:15:47.000 Sure, sure.

01:15:48.000 Well, I would look at it this way.

01:15:50.000 I absolutely think this happens often, where powerful people, perhaps not in Diddy's case, but people who engage in this type of trafficking, things like this, do end up with powerful people from other nations on video.

01:16:03.000 Now, if I was in charge of the U.S.

01:16:05.000 government, or any government for that matter, and that came across my desk and it was asked, do you want to prosecute?

01:16:11.000 I wouldn't prosecute, I would blackmail.

01:16:13.000 I'm the head of the government, right?

01:16:14.000 Who would blackmail? 0.96

01:16:15.000 Of course, I would say, okay, well, wait, if I have seven world leaders, like you said in your scenario, there's seven world leaders over here, and I have sex tapes on all of you. 0.95

01:16:22.000 Guess what? 0.76

01:16:23.000 We're going to get the oil at this price.

01:16:25.000 We're going to get the food at this price.

01:16:27.000 We're going to get this at this price.

01:16:29.000 It'd be a very short period of time until you were then eliminated.

01:16:34.000 A lot of people did point out that this international conflict and destabilization started popping up after Epstein died.

01:16:41.000 It's true.

01:16:44.000 I think your point is good.

01:16:44.000 There's a lot of people who say that the purpose of what Epstein's operation was was to force world leaders to basically bend the knee.

01:16:51.000 Of course it was.

01:16:52.000 There's a great book, I think we talked about last time I was on, One Nation Under Blackmail.

01:16:58.000 It's not only a fantastic book, but the idea is here that politics runs off of blackmail and it runs off of bribes, it runs off of all this.

01:17:08.000 But blackmail specifically, we found something on you.

01:17:08.000 That's true.

01:17:12.000 Nobody else has it but us.

01:17:13.000 Don't worry though, this all goes away if you do blank.

01:17:17.000 This happens, I think, daily, all over the world in all sorts of politics.

01:17:21.000 And it definitely happens here in the United States as well.

01:17:24.000 And if I was the government and I got a hold of these Epstein files and tapes and things like this, and I could go to the enemies of my nation and say, or even just kind of allies who aren't doing what I want and say, Hey, look, you want this released?

01:17:38.000 Or you want to do this?

01:17:39.000 Of course, as the leader of the nation, you're going to blackmail them, right?

01:17:42.000 I mean, what else are you going to do?

01:17:44.000 I suppose it's a practical reality, as we were talking about war and what is justifiable in war or not. 0.86

01:17:51.000 The idea of war crimes is silly.

01:17:52.000 If you're the leader of a country, there is no good decision.

01:17:56.000 I've talked about this for quite a bit.

01:17:58.000 There really isn't, right?

01:18:00.000 Activists all seem to think that...

01:18:03.000 You know, I love this story, by the way, because y'all who watch the show quite frequently for me say, but at Occupy Wall Street, they have the General Assembly.

01:18:09.000 They're all trying to decide what their demands are going to be.

01:18:11.000 What's the big problem?

01:18:12.000 And it was generally big bailouts and revolving door government policies and administration.

01:18:17.000 And one guy just stands up frustrated and goes, what is wrong with you people?

01:18:22.000 It's fracking!

01:18:23.000 Fracking is everything!

01:18:25.000 And I was just like, fracking is so low down the list.

01:18:27.000 Yeah, it's pretty low.

01:18:29.000 But the reason I bring this up is that If you're a world leader and you're like, we need to reduce energy costs so we're going to have to frack, then you get a guy screaming at you, you're destroying the world.

01:18:38.000 If you stop fracking, then you get everyone else screaming, our prices are going up, what are you doing to us?

01:18:41.000 There's no simple solution to appeasing the people.

01:18:44.000 Heavy is the crown, right?

01:18:46.000 And the idea here is, I think you hit it on the head, right?

01:18:51.000 Everything's a trade-off.

01:18:53.000 So if everything in politics is a trade-off, and I think it probably is, then we're just trying to make the best trades that we possibly can, the best day trades, right?

01:19:01.000 We're gonna take from this and give to this, or we're gonna take away from this to give to that, or, you know, in this case, like you said, Mother Earth's gonna suffer if we frack, but on the other hand, if we don't frack, Grandma might die because she can't get heat. 0.99

01:19:15.000 So the question becomes, what is the least bad choice that I can make which affects the least amount of people?

01:19:21.000 I don't really even know if there's a better way to govern than that.

01:19:24.000 Than utilitarianism.

01:19:25.000 Well, it wouldn't be even utilitarianism.

01:19:27.000 That's pretty much what that is.

01:19:29.000 Well, utilitarianism uses utils as a unit of measurement for a consequence.

01:19:34.000 Oh, you're saying what brings the most good to the most people.

01:19:38.000 There is absolutely no deontological world leadership.

01:19:41.000 It is impossible.

01:19:42.000 Literally, it's impossible.

01:19:43.000 Well, I think Christian ethics...

01:19:47.000 And duties do take consequences into account.

01:19:50.000 I think what you're talking about, instead of utilitarianism or consequentialism, it would be more like threshold deontology.

01:19:56.000 So the idea would just be, okay, we do the dutiful thing until, you know, there's some threshold, and then we switch over to this thing, right?

01:20:05.000 So we have a duty to uphold your rights.

01:20:07.000 We have a duty to do that.

01:20:09.000 Unless upholding them would cause so much problem for so many people that we can't... Exactly.

01:20:16.000 So the argument is, you know, deontological morals, you cannot take a single immoral action against an individual, regardless of the greater consequences, versus utilitarianism, the needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few, dramatically oversimplifying.

01:20:28.000 But the issue then is, at a federal level, if there is a single individual—and there's difficult scenarios, too, involved in, would you harm the rights of an individual to protect the greater of society?

01:20:41.000 Most civilizations will do it, because— But that's deontological, too.

01:20:46.000 That's not purely utilitarian.

01:20:47.000 So if you're looking at duty, you could say that you have a duty to protect lives, you know, if it's going to save more lives, right?

01:20:55.000 It just depends on perspective and how you're crafting it.

01:20:58.000 It's this question of, you know, there's probably, if you gave me time, I could craft a very nuanced scenario that would boggle the philosophical minds of how to handle... You could just use the trolley problem, right?

01:21:09.000 That's an easy one.

01:21:10.000 Yeah, but I think that's actually...

01:21:12.000 That's actually an easy solution.

01:21:14.000 If you're at a government level and you're talking about killing one person and saving, like, the Charlie problem of one person versus five, most people are like, I don't want to touch anything.

01:21:22.000 I'm going to not be involved.

01:21:23.000 But if you're looking at one person versus 300 million, most people are going to be like, You count three million people die?

01:21:30.000 Of course.

01:21:31.000 And so I think, you know, most people are probably going to be like the end of the world or one person.

01:21:36.000 But this means that you're willing to sacrifice an innocent person for the needs of the many outweighing the needs of the few.

01:21:41.000 The real question is just how many is too many and how many is too few?

01:21:46.000 I think there are a lot of circumstances in government Where there are ethically and morally gray areas that result in harm and good at the same time, and there is no yes or no, right or wrong.

01:21:59.000 It's just, what's the best, least damaging thing we can do?

01:22:03.000 But it does result in a mass negative to a person who didn't deserve it.

01:22:06.000 And so that's what I mean, like, at a large scale, a large enough scale, there's no real way to try and protect the rights of every single person.

01:22:12.000 Here's an example.

01:22:13.000 It's when in Bruce Almighty, When he's getting all the prayers and he's like, yes to everyone!

01:22:18.000 And then everyone wins a lottery and they win 30 bucks.

01:22:24.000 It's a damn near impossibility.

01:22:27.000 You're always just trying to do the least amount of damage, the least amount of good.

01:22:30.000 I just think that that could be construed as a duty, not just as like we're just looking at consequences, right?

01:22:30.000 So I agree.

01:22:37.000 So I think it depends on perspective.

01:22:39.000 So I agree with you 100%, though.

01:22:41.000 If you're in government and you're the king, you're either the unilateral dictator or you're like a part of a body.

01:22:48.000 Really, the only thing you can do is do trade-offs.

01:22:52.000 I read that academic story a long time ago, and it said, on average, any society or country, regardless of its state, sees an average of 17% dissent, no matter what the state is, because it's impossible for everybody to agree on the form and function of government.

01:23:09.000 Plus, there's a lot of people who just really like to be contrary.

01:23:12.000 They want to fight the machine or whatever.

01:23:12.000 Yep.

01:23:14.000 Let's jump to this next story!

01:23:15.000 I wonder if you have a big family.

01:23:17.000 I bet you a big family would be 17%.

01:23:19.000 Don't... I can't tell you, you know what I mean?

01:23:22.000 That's how you end up with black sheeps. 1.00

01:23:24.000 Yeah, mom, dad, three kids, and the teenage daughter is angsty and doesn't want to, you know... And she moves out, she runs away. 1.00

01:23:29.000 On the micro, it's probably just as true as the macro.

01:23:31.000 She's living on the streets of New York.

01:23:33.000 Suddenly he's friends with Diddy.

01:23:33.000 Let's jump to this story.

01:23:35.000 Freak off, freak off.

01:23:37.000 Alright, alright.

01:23:38.000 We got this story from the post-millennial.

01:23:40.000 CBS only finds one Harris supporter in Nevada restaurant.

01:23:44.000 The rest were for Trump.

01:23:45.000 No, no, no.

01:23:46.000 It's restaurants.

01:23:47.000 She says in every single restaurant, the people willing to talk to us, we could only find one Harris supporter in every restaurant.

01:23:55.000 So they went to a bunch, and they could find only a single person in Nevada.

01:24:01.000 I gotta say, I think this sends a good message to Nate Silver.

01:24:05.000 Nate Silver has Trump favored to win the election, winning Nevada, and you look at all these polls and they're like, no, Kamala Harris is going to win in these states or that state or whatever.

01:24:13.000 I think this shows us that I think Nate Silver may be more likely to be correct.

01:24:20.000 We will see, but I also want to just add, for everybody at home watching this, I want you to, you know, get real cozy on your couch with a blanket or whatever and just feel that smug within you that CBS desperately tried to find Kamala Spores and could not.

01:24:34.000 Couldn't find him.

01:24:35.000 Couldn't find him.

01:24:36.000 Well it's interesting, I wonder if I can get your take on two things here.

01:24:40.000 So the first one is, With Kamala Harris, are the Democrats once again putting way too much stock in Zoomers and younger... They're doing it again, right? 0.99

01:24:50.000 That only really worked one time.

01:24:51.000 It only worked with Obama, and it didn't work ever before, and I don't think it's really working... Because all the trends, TikTok, this and that, you know, everything is blowing up for Kamala.

01:24:59.000 But are you putting too much faith again that the young people are going to come out and vote?

01:25:02.000 They're not going to come out and vote.

01:25:02.000 That's the question.

01:25:03.000 They're going to go ballot harvest.

01:25:05.000 They're gonna go knock on college dorm rooms and be like, what up?

01:25:05.000 Yeah, that's true.

01:25:08.000 Did you guys fill out your mail-in ballots?

01:25:10.000 And they're gonna go, oh yeah, sure, here you go.

01:25:12.000 And then they got them.

01:25:13.000 And they want it to look like there is this wave of youth voters coming because, hypothetically, if there were any sort of... Shenanigans?

01:25:21.000 Shenanigans, they would be able to say like, no, no, but...

01:25:24.000 You guys don't understand.

01:25:25.000 We just understand them better than you guys do.

01:25:27.000 I mean, I think this is always the myth of, like, different voter blocks, right?

01:25:30.000 That they're going to turn out and this is the year.

01:25:32.000 And that's why you see the Harris campaign posturing as, like, this pop culture icon when it's really not.

01:25:38.000 I think Nevada is funny because I...

01:25:42.000 I know it often gets kind of written off as a blue state, but I don't think that's fair.

01:25:46.000 There are prominent Republicans in a lot of positions in Nevada.

01:25:50.000 So Nevada, sorry team. 0.95

01:25:51.000 I don't know which it is.

01:25:52.000 But I think there is a level of, like, the media trying to steer the story.

01:25:58.000 If you put out enough polls saying, oh, no, don't worry about that state, that swing state's definitely for the

01:26:02.000 Harris walls.

01:26:03.000 There's no—don't even go there, Trump.

01:26:05.000 There's no point in spending money.

01:26:06.000 Then it's sort of to undermine any other political analysis there.

01:26:10.000 It's not based on real people.

01:26:12.000 Because they could have gone to, like, the Harris walls headquarters.

01:26:16.000 It's right around the corner, but there's still a long way to go until we get there.

01:26:20.000 Especially given our news cycle!

01:26:21.000 How many more assassination attempts?

01:26:22.000 And so I'm just wondering, right?

01:26:23.000 Well the election is right around the corner but there's still a long time if that makes

01:26:28.000 any sense right?

01:26:29.000 It's right around the corner but there's still a long way to go until we get there.

01:26:32.000 Especially given our news cycle, how many more assassination attempts?

01:26:35.000 And so I'm just wondering right?

01:26:37.000 Do you think they'll stop?

01:26:38.000 I don't know.

01:26:38.000 It's just, like, this whole year since, I mean, before July, but let's say since the debate in May, it's just non-stop.

01:26:47.000 June 27th?

01:26:48.000 Was Biden, yeah.

01:26:50.000 It just seems like there's always something coming down the pike. 0.99

01:26:52.000 So I agree to you, like, we're 49 days away.

01:26:55.000 On the other hand, there's so much plot left in this crazy sitcom.

01:26:59.000 And to your point, you said, you asked a question, right?

01:27:02.000 Is this going to stop with the assassinations, right, for instance?

01:27:05.000 No.

01:27:06.000 So once these lunatics understand that the media is going to make demi-heroes out of them, and they do, even though they pretend that they don't, they make demi-heroes out of these potential Trump assassins, they're never going to stop because for the same reason some of these... But they do that with all shooters. 0.65

01:27:23.000 That's my point though, right?

01:27:24.000 That's what they did.

01:27:26.000 That's what happens.

01:27:26.000 A lot of them want notoriety when they go into, and I'm not even going to get into it because of YouTube, but when they go into those places and do that thing, oftentimes it's because they want the notoriety.

01:27:35.000 These assassins, same thing.

01:27:36.000 What do you think happens if Donald Trump does not make it to election day?

01:27:40.000 Like J.D.

01:27:41.000 Vance is the nominee?

01:27:43.000 Well, do you think people could still vote?

01:27:45.000 Do you think people, if people vote for the ticket, are they then voting for Vance?

01:27:49.000 I don't know about the legal precedent.

01:27:51.000 I mean, it was already weird enough when Kamala took over Biden's ticket.

01:27:54.000 Yeah, and is Kamala Harris printed on all the ballots at this point?

01:27:57.000 I think they made exceptions to do it.

01:27:59.000 Honestly, I think that they could potentially postpone the election.

01:28:03.000 I don't know what's the mechanism for doing that.

01:28:04.000 There is precedent for postponing.

01:28:06.000 What's the mechanism for postponing the election?

01:28:08.000 I think that Congress just sets when, right?

01:28:11.000 Congress?

01:28:11.000 Who would do it?

01:28:12.000 This is true, but I don't think it would happen because Congress is split.

01:28:14.000 Yeah, I don't think Congress would get that.

01:28:15.000 The Republicans would say, contingent election delegations.

01:28:18.000 The Democrats would say, no, Vance is your candidate.

01:28:20.000 And then the next thing you know, any slates of electors that were sent to the Electoral College with Vance on them would be prosecuted and put in jail.

01:28:29.000 Very grim, Libby, very grim.

01:28:33.000 The Republicans could also go to the next runner-up nominee, whoever that was.

01:28:39.000 They could say, OK, we're going to put up Haley or something like this.

01:28:42.000 That's what you have.

01:28:43.000 Well, Vance is the ticket.

01:28:45.000 So with Biden, he would advance.

01:28:47.000 But if Trump is gone, his ticket's gone.

01:28:48.000 I don't know.

01:28:49.000 Biden's gone and his ticket's still there.

01:28:54.000 They'd make the same argument that Kamala made. 0.86

01:28:56.000 They'd be like, you can put in whoever we want, which is the same thing that they were doing before.

01:29:01.000 It's a private organization, etc, etc.

01:29:03.000 We can assume that if anything happens to Trump, the election will be chaos, be it a postponement, be it a contingent election, be it the election goes forward, but then the Democrats challenge Vance, citing he wasn't actually nominated or whatever, he was chosen by Trump.

01:29:18.000 I don't think... He was then nominated.

01:29:22.000 Vance is chosen by Trump and then selected at the RNC, but he wasn't voted in a primary.

01:29:22.000 J.D.

01:29:26.000 Right, for sure.

01:29:26.000 But neither was Harris.

01:29:28.000 But Harris was selected at the DNC.

01:29:30.000 So the Democrats would argue Trump was chosen at the RNC and Kamala was chosen by the DNC for president.

01:29:37.000 Vance was not chosen for president.

01:29:38.000 The point is this.

01:29:39.000 All of these scenarios say only one thing.

01:29:41.000 We literally cannot even fathom what would happen to this country.

01:29:44.000 It would be total chaos.

01:29:45.000 I think you're dead right about that.

01:29:46.000 We have no idea.

01:29:47.000 Mm-hmm.

01:29:48.000 Literally none.

01:29:49.000 There's no prediction.

01:29:49.000 There's no guessing.

01:29:51.000 And then it was interesting, Biden called Trump to check in on him and see if he was okay, and they talked about potentially additional Secret Service protection, although I don't know if that has happened yet.

01:30:01.000 And isn't that under the DHS?

01:30:02.000 Isn't that Mayorkas' call? 1.00

01:30:04.000 That's Mayorkas. 1.00

01:30:05.000 And he is the biggest, awful person.

01:30:07.000 I mean, he was speaking at the Texas Tribune Festival saying, That he didn't even believe deportations were a good policy at all, and he brought up the example of a single person saying that it would, you know, how would we deport a single person? 0.87

01:30:19.000 I mean, the House voted to impeach him because he's derelict and duty, and the Senate wouldn't take it up.

01:30:23.000 I suspect we could do it again because if you can't keep the president safe, I mean, what are we doing here?

01:30:28.000 Trump might want to bunker up and just get back on Twitter.

01:30:31.000 I think that's what they want, though.

01:30:32.000 They don't want him at any rallies.

01:30:33.000 He might just want to bunker up and get back on Twitter for his campaign rallies.

01:30:36.000 I think he wants to go golfing and do some campaign rallies.

01:30:39.000 He's got a rally in Long Island tomorrow.

01:30:41.000 Trump famously does not like heavy security.

01:30:44.000 So this is a well-known thing where Trump likes to be accessible.

01:30:48.000 And I think this is another big challenge.

01:30:50.000 Because he loves the people.

01:30:51.000 Yep.

01:30:52.000 It's a big thing about him.

01:30:53.000 He also loves McDonald's.

01:30:54.000 Yeah, well, you know, it's a big difference between him and Kamala Harris.

01:30:58.000 Kamala Harris does not love the people.

01:30:59.000 She busses people in.

01:31:01.000 She is invite only.

01:31:02.000 No public speaking engagements, really.

01:31:05.000 Also, when it comes to media, she is very inaccessible to the media.

01:31:10.000 Very inaccessible.

01:31:11.000 Not a lot going on there.

01:31:12.000 Not much of a plan.

01:31:13.000 I think the media gets frustrated, too.

01:31:15.000 During the debate, I really didn't see a single standout plan from Kamala that made me go, that's a Democrat that stands out.

01:31:24.000 There weren't any standout plans at all.

01:31:25.000 There weren't anything.

01:31:26.000 I mean, we know a lot about how she was a middle-class kid.

01:31:29.000 We know a lot about how the people in her neighborhood liked their lawns, but we don't really know anything about, we don't really know anything about what she would like to do for the American people that's worthwhile.

01:31:40.000 We know she wants to tax us on our unrealized capital gains.

01:31:42.000 And build houses.

01:31:44.000 And build three million houses.

01:31:45.000 Well, she has her opportunity economy. 1.00

01:31:47.000 And then give them away.

01:31:48.000 And she won't give any specifics while we pay for it.

01:31:51.000 Also devalue the neighborhoods they get put in, probably.

01:31:55.000 But the thing is, none of it was a popping standout policy, right?

01:31:59.000 You would think, I have this great policy for the reinvigoration of America. 0.78

01:32:04.000 Here's the plan.

01:32:05.000 And here's this kind of really standout thing.

01:32:08.000 It really wasn't there.

01:32:09.000 For Kamala Harris.

01:32:09.000 Because she doesn't have one.

01:32:10.000 I mean, also because she's obsessed with Trump and everyone on her campaign is obsessed with Trump.

01:32:14.000 She could have spent the whole night appealing to voters who say, we don't really know who you are, tell us what you want to accomplish.

01:32:19.000 Instead, the fixation was getting on an emotional reaction from Trump, which at times she did.

01:32:24.000 On the other hand, complete missed opportunity for her because undecided voters still don't know who she is or what she's trying to promise them. 0.97

01:32:30.000 They know the buzzwords, opportunity, economy, I'm from the middle class, but it doesn't make her any more relatable. 0.79

01:32:36.000 Did you see that Billie Eilish came out today and endorsed her?

01:32:39.000 How many pop stars are we gonna bring out to give her personality? 1.00

01:32:43.000 You know what's funny is in the 90s you had like a lot of pop stars coming out and getting involved in politics but mostly they were just saying rock the vote like that's it they went on MTV and said rock the vote.

01:32:53.000 But it's because it's because they knew that younger voters lean Democrat and so the game they've employed is hey just go vote because they know it's it's their they got their EV plus.

01:33:02.000 I still prefer the But right now, unregistered voters lean towards Trump.

01:33:07.000 So Democrats actually, this was a funny story a few months ago, stopped their voter registration initiatives because it was actually helping Donald Trump.

01:33:12.000 And Motor Voter in Pennsylvania was veering Republican as well.

01:33:17.000 I saw on your X, the Trump plan, you were like, do it!

01:33:23.000 Oh, no taxes on 401Ks!

01:33:24.000 Let's go!

01:33:25.000 Let's go!

01:33:26.000 Come on! 0.61

01:33:27.000 Do it!

01:33:28.000 Do it!

01:33:29.000 Real quick, Donald Trump, hear me roar right now, go on X, go on a rally and say, new campaign

01:33:36.000 proposal, all withdrawals from your 401k after the age of 62 will be tax free and you will

01:33:43.000 win a 49th state nationality.

01:33:45.000 No taxes.

01:33:46.000 No taxes on the retirement.

01:33:46.000 No taxes.

01:33:48.000 That's it.

01:33:48.000 That guy has it back.

01:33:50.000 I agree with that, too, because we can't depend on Social Security.

01:33:54.000 They are your taxes!

01:33:56.000 So we have to invest our own money in order to fund our retirement, and then you want to tax us on it after you've been taxing us with Social Security this whole time that you're going to keep?

01:34:03.000 Yeah.

01:34:04.000 Let us keep our money that we've been saving this whole time.

01:34:04.000 I mean, come on.

01:34:07.000 I mean, we don't buy stuff.

01:34:08.000 We save our money.

01:34:09.000 We put it aside.

01:34:09.000 And the rent that it's taxed at, too.

01:34:11.000 Ridiculous. 0.94

01:34:12.000 It's like bonuses. 0.86

01:34:13.000 As soon as you turn 62, you can withdraw from your retirement funds tax-free.

01:34:18.000 You can take them out.

01:34:19.000 You owe no taxes on.

01:34:20.000 Your retirement's become just tax-free.

01:34:22.000 Retire with it.

01:34:22.000 It's yours.

01:34:23.000 That solves a lot of the social security problem.

01:34:26.000 And every senior's gonna be like, Trump wins.

01:34:28.000 Well, you know what else it would do?

01:34:30.000 It would help age out the workforce.

01:34:34.000 Because we would be like, oh, I will retire because now it turns out I do have enough money to retire.

01:34:39.000 And all those bigger, higher level positions would open up to the lower generations.

01:34:43.000 And then they'll be able to get those jobs and do things like buy houses and save for their retirement.

01:34:49.000 And retirees will have more to spend.

01:34:51.000 Their budgets won't be as strained.

01:34:52.000 So they'll go out to eat.

01:34:54.000 They can go on road trips they want to do.

01:34:56.000 They can go buy that different condo and give up their house to a younger family who might need the space.

01:35:01.000 The mobility of both the corner offices and the house and suburb becomes viable.

01:35:04.000 Becomes huge.

01:35:04.000 That would be amazing.

01:35:05.000 I think it's a brilliant idea.

01:35:06.000 I would be so happy.

01:35:07.000 I would perhaps cry if that were the case.

01:35:10.000 If he said at 62, you're tax-free.

01:35:12.000 I mean, I just... No, 55.

01:35:13.000 Dude, 55.

01:35:14.000 She's 55 years old.

01:35:16.000 I'm going to be working until I'm dead anyway.

01:35:19.000 But why not 55 for the taxes on the 401k?

01:35:23.000 Some of these guys 55, 56 years old, got $3 million in their retirement account and they're

01:35:29.000 going to have to work another 8, 9 years so that they can pay for the taxes when they

01:35:33.000 pull it all out.

01:35:34.000 Well, and then they're going to get taxed on the unrealized capital gains in their houses.

01:35:37.000 And then they're going to get estate taxes so they can't even leave anything to their kids. 1.00

01:35:39.000 Just let them pull out right now.

01:35:40.000 Let them retire.

01:35:41.000 You're right.

01:35:42.000 It's going to create a whole lot of jobs, which are far past entry level.

01:35:47.000 When guys were already established, it would open up real estate.

01:35:50.000 This is sort of the joke all the time, that it's like, you know why you're not getting promoted to the corner office?

01:35:54.000 Because the guy who has been sitting there for three decades won't leave.

01:35:57.000 But, you know, to that guy's defense, he can't leave.

01:36:00.000 He can't leave.

01:36:00.000 And I think that this is the reality, which is like, We are supposed to have an economy that allows you to retire.

01:36:06.000 And in fact, I think it would boost national morale if we treated it like something that we wanted you to do.

01:36:11.000 Like in France.

01:36:12.000 Remember when they had basically like the middle-aged workers were practically rioting in France because they wanted to raise their retirement age.

01:36:20.000 They were like, you would never do that to us.

01:36:22.000 I love how Trump's policies are increasingly just abolished taxes.

01:36:25.000 Well, you know, that is kind of great.

01:36:27.000 That is kind of great.

01:36:28.000 Kamala's policies are raise taxes for some and give free money to people who haven't earned it. 0.98

01:36:34.000 Kamala's policy is we're going to forgive your student debt.

01:36:37.000 You got free money and now you don't got to pay it back.

01:36:39.000 Trump is saying the money that you earned you keep.

01:36:43.000 I like that.

01:36:43.000 Yep, I agree.

01:36:44.000 I work hard.

01:36:45.000 And I have my whole life.

01:36:47.000 I also think that's a double tax cut for retirees.

01:36:49.000 Yes.

01:36:49.000 Not the billionaires.

01:36:50.000 Which is a good thing a tax cut for retirees because there's I mean, it's a double edged sword too with the college forgiveness because there's tons of people who paid off their loans who that that pisses them off like you can't believe.

01:37:01.000 Or like the $25,000 down payment assistance.

01:37:04.000 I bought my house a couple years ago.

01:37:05.000 I didn't get any down payment assistance.

01:37:07.000 Yeah.

01:37:08.000 Like I just, I just paid for my house.

01:37:10.000 Well, there are programs.

01:37:11.000 There have been programs like that forever for FHAs and things like this.

01:37:14.000 Rural housing loans, where they'll assist with that type of thing.

01:37:17.000 Those things already exist.

01:37:19.000 They're not really doing anything major by doing the $25,000.

01:37:22.000 But student loan forgiveness... Well, you're jacking up real estate prices by putting $25,000 right on top of it.

01:37:27.000 I agree.

01:37:28.000 And so you're taking the money from the taxpayers and you're giving it to the companies selling the houses.

01:37:33.000 Yeah, I'm not sure that that would have a mass impact, but fair enough, right?

01:37:36.000 The thing is, though, is when I'm looking at the college student loan debt forgiveness, some of these people have hundreds of thousands of dollars in student debt, been going to school for 12 years.

01:37:46.000 Yeah.

01:37:46.000 Well, also, though, I mean, the other thing, too, with the student debt is it is true that when you have a student loan that compounds on interest once you graduate, like, that's deadly.

01:37:56.000 And the reason that tuition is so high is because student loans are so readily available.

01:38:01.000 Well, it's a scam.

01:38:02.000 You can't say we're going to forgive student loans and then also continue to issue them.

01:38:07.000 And you can't say you've been saddled with debt with no way out, so we're going to forgive you.

01:38:11.000 But everyone else coming out of the pipe, same problem in a couple years.

01:38:14.000 Right.

01:38:14.000 And the other thing, too, is tuition is like $60,000 a year at some of the schools that I went to.

01:38:18.000 And it's like, there should absolutely not be loans facilitating a college degree that costs more than a house.

01:38:25.000 And the colleges have no incentive not to continue to raise prices because they know ultimately they can demand students get government-backed loans that they cannot go bankrupt on.

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01:39:08.000 It's going to be fun, but for now, we'll grab your Super Chats.

01:39:11.000 All right, T-Bomb says, please limit the tree farming to 10 trees per person on the Members Only 7 Days to Die server.

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01:39:19.000 Ian's very excited about 7 Days to Die, members only.

01:39:22.000 So if you're looking for a group of people to play 7 Days to Die with, it's a zombie game.

01:39:26.000 He also says, Howdy Clint and all the other very fine people.

01:39:29.000 Indeed, TimCast viewers are all very fine people.

01:39:33.000 Alright, we'll grab some Super Chats.

01:39:35.000 What have we here?

01:39:36.000 We'll scroll down.

01:39:38.000 Eric Shaver says, Do you think Google should have to disclose all of the information it has collected about us so we can conduct social experiments?

01:39:46.000 No?

01:39:47.000 What?

01:39:48.000 No, heavens no.

01:39:49.000 I think Google should be legally required to give you any and all information with your name on it, that they have of yours, but like the idea to disclose all of the information in general, I certainly would not like that.

01:40:05.000 They're gonna be posting where I go to eat lunch.

01:40:07.000 What was he even getting at with that?

01:40:10.000 Where was he going with that?

01:40:12.000 Eric, I must tell you, they're giving it to AI and AI is learning freaky things.

01:40:15.000 But I don't want people to figure out where I go for lunch every day.

01:40:18.000 They're gonna be like, hey look, every day at 3pm Tim's phone is in this area.

01:40:21.000 No way, dude!

01:40:23.000 Not to mention your browser history, Eric.

01:40:26.000 Me, I don't have a computer.

01:40:28.000 Because this is a studio computer.

01:40:29.000 Alright?

01:40:30.000 That's you.

01:40:32.000 Is that the new conspiracy?

01:40:33.000 It was a fake attempt so that Secret Service could be like, look!

01:40:36.000 and to help gain the trust of the people.

01:40:38.000 Is that the new conspiracy?

01:40:39.000 It was a it was a fake attempt so that they could see what service could be like, look, we did our job.

01:40:43.000 We're good at it.

01:40:44.000 We are good at this.

01:40:45.000 Stop saying we're not.

01:40:47.000 But the thing is, again, and maybe they did it like they did do exactly what I think they're supposed to do, which

01:40:53.000 is to keep a shooter from taking a shot.

01:40:55.000 On the other hand, I still think it's crazy that there's no one patrolling the exterior perimeter.

01:40:59.000 Wait, didn't the shooter take a shot?

01:41:00.000 No, but not from what I understand.

01:41:01.000 They shot at him.

01:41:02.000 Oh, yeah, yeah, they shot at him, sorry.

01:41:03.000 Yeah.

01:41:04.000 Yeah.

01:41:06.000 Arrow says, shout out to my new son, Fallon, for his release from the hospital.

01:41:10.000 Can't wait for a, how do you, for Pulev?

01:41:12.000 How do you pronounce that?

01:41:14.000 The Canadian guy?

01:41:16.000 Poliev.

01:41:16.000 Poliev?

01:41:17.000 Poliev.

01:41:18.000 Trump U.S.

01:41:19.000 so I can more than barely afford to live.

01:41:23.000 Right on.

01:41:23.000 Yeah, like everybody else, man.

01:41:25.000 Like you're in good company with that.

01:41:27.000 Congrats on your kid.

01:41:29.000 Chad Davis says, Tim, YouTube making me work on finding the live show.

01:41:33.000 Freaking commies.

01:41:34.000 We debuted the new thumbnail today!

01:41:36.000 You may have noticed.

01:41:38.000 The reason was, it was apparent that our long-standing thumbnail is not particularly good marketing in that it's only effective for people who already know what the show is.

01:41:48.000 You see a thumbnail, it says TimCastIRL live now with a guest, and you're like, I like TimCastIRL, I'll watch.

01:41:53.000 For anybody who didn't know, they might just be like, don't know what that is, next.

01:41:57.000 So I thought, well, we're a news-driven show.

01:41:59.000 We need to have the main story be prominent in the thumbnail.

01:42:03.000 So today, I and the guest, Andrew Wilson, as well as Tim Castellaw live, and then the story, which is that we have filed a lawsuit against Kamala Harris.

01:42:11.000 I think this is more accessible to the average viewer who might be browsing YouTube and then see a show they've never heard of, but a story that's important to them, and then they'll come watch and realize it's the best show, everyone agrees, at least that's what I've been told.

01:42:24.000 All right.

01:42:25.000 Jacob Pauly says, Tim and crew, urgent.

01:42:27.000 I have pictures of the Trump assassin social media.

01:42:29.000 It shows a big trend and it's disturbing.

01:42:31.000 Who should I tweet or email them to?

01:42:33.000 I took the pics as soon as his name dropped.

01:42:35.000 Can't say a word.

01:42:36.000 Can't say the A word above fully as it gets blocked.

01:42:40.000 Oh, like at or whatever?

01:42:42.000 Oh, I see what you're saying.

01:42:43.000 Assassination.

01:42:45.000 I think everyone's already archived all of his social media.

01:42:48.000 So if you go to archive.is, you can see the full pages are available and they've been saved in full.

01:42:53.000 So, uh, I don't know.

01:42:54.000 I don't know.

01:42:55.000 You can tweet it, I suppose, if you have it.

01:42:58.000 Dragon Lady says, Carl Benjamin did a couple of videos on his channel, The Symposium, four years ago saying exactly what you are about Palpatine and the Rebels.

01:43:06.000 Search for the title Star Wars is pro-Jedi propaganda.

01:43:10.000 I want to stress, honest question, where in the movies, at any point, does Palpatine do something wrong?

01:43:17.000 Honest question.

01:43:19.000 Well, I think the fact that there's a lot of bias against him, because he's not a very good-looking guy.

01:43:24.000 He was involved in a lightning accident when he was young.

01:43:27.000 He was kind of old when that happened.

01:43:29.000 Well, I mean, young for a Sith Lord.

01:43:30.000 That's true.

01:43:31.000 Young for a Sith Lord.

01:43:32.000 He was involved in a terrible lightning accident.

01:43:35.000 Some guy was mugging him at the time.

01:43:37.000 Lightning hits him, and from there he's disfigured, and I think it's pure ableism.

01:43:43.000 Let's be completely real about this.

01:43:45.000 Mace Windu shows up and says he can't have a trial.

01:43:48.000 He's too dangerous.

01:43:49.000 Yeah.

01:43:50.000 That's insane. 1.00

01:43:51.000 What a psychopath. 0.99

01:43:51.000 Even Anakin. 0.99

01:43:52.000 So Anakin, being the only good guy, Anakin says, no, you got to take him to trial.

01:43:58.000 So hold on, hold on.

01:43:59.000 Mace Windu says he can't.

01:44:01.000 Draws a weapon against a sitting elected official.

01:44:05.000 No, the top elected official.

01:44:06.000 He had been voted emergency powers.

01:44:08.000 He was now, for all intents and purposes, the emperor.

01:44:11.000 Mace Windu draws his weapon.

01:44:13.000 We all know in American jurisprudence, you have a right to defend yourself when your life is in danger.

01:44:20.000 If someone points a weapon at you, you have a right to defend yourself.

01:44:23.000 So what happens?

01:44:25.000 Palpatine uses force lightning.

01:44:28.000 As the guy's drawn his weapon against him, and he reflects it back, and Palpatine is trying to hold him back, but in no way did Palpatine ever aggress against Mace Windu.

01:44:36.000 Mace Windu went to his office, intent on killing an elected official, and Anakin pleads for him not to do it.

01:44:41.000 Anakin strikes Mace Windu down in self-defense, in defense of others, and with his weapon now dismantled, it is completely reasonable for Palpatine to say, this is a Jedi master who just tried to kill me, and so he defends himself.

01:44:54.000 They came in and threatened him.

01:44:56.000 And they had no, they had absolutely no- And he said it's treason then.

01:44:56.000 Yep.

01:44:59.000 They said it's treason then.

01:45:00.000 And so he takes two of them out quickly.

01:45:03.000 He ends up in this battle with the other one.

01:45:05.000 Um, and Anakin saves his life like the do-gooder that he is.

01:45:09.000 He's, he was, I mean, he was a do-gooder to his own kid.

01:45:09.000 Okay.

01:45:12.000 He did, he literally would have given his own kid a pardon if he would have just reformed.

01:45:16.000 That's all he was asking for.

01:45:17.000 Just reform to the side that doesn't do this lunatic stuff these people are doing.

01:45:22.000 So I can tell you all the things that Vader did that was evil?

01:45:24.000 Vader does a lot of bad things.

01:45:25.000 What? 0.66

01:45:25.000 He killed a bunch of kids. 0.66

01:45:27.000 No, that, no, no, no, no, no.

01:45:29.000 Upon whose orders?

01:45:31.000 You're saying Emperor Palpatine's at fault for that?

01:45:33.000 Okay, well, if you're going to blame Vader, then the hole in your argument here is that Palpatine said, do what must be done.

01:45:41.000 Oh, but we know, but no, no, no, no, I take issue with that.

01:45:44.000 Did Palpatine say, Anakin, go to the school and go murder a bunch of children?

01:45:49.000 He wasn't exactly punishing him afterwards.

01:45:51.000 I'm saying that, like police, they often do bad things and then they're like, oh man, what do we do?

01:45:56.000 My point is that Palpatine I'm not saying he's, like, look, I get it, you watch the movies, he's an evil guy, like, he orders Anakin and Anakin goes kill kids, but my point is this.

01:46:04.000 If you watch the movies, there's no scene where Palpatine's like, now I want you to go murder children.

01:46:09.000 That's true.

01:46:10.000 There's no scene where Palpatine's like, oppress them and arrest them for their speech or- They do have the rule of two.

01:46:15.000 My only point is not that we can't infer he's evil or whatever.

01:46:21.000 My point is literally they never show you him doing anything oppressive or tyrannical.

01:46:24.000 I literally don't think it was evil.

01:46:25.000 I think even Vader going and doing that act was completely justified.

01:46:29.000 So the idea here was that, look, this is terrible that you have to do this, right?

01:46:33.000 It's awful.

01:46:34.000 It haunted Vader his entire life.

01:46:36.000 He thought about it nonstop.

01:46:37.000 He was never thrilled about the fact that he had to do it. 0.97

01:46:40.000 But he knew that even one of these lunatic Jedi could come back Right? 0.99

01:46:45.000 And start this entire vicious cycle again where they were going to take over the galaxy, begin kidnapping children, the whole nine yards. 0.97

01:46:51.000 He had to put an end to it there.

01:46:52.000 He had to put an end to it there.

01:46:54.000 Let's grab some more.

01:46:55.000 Here we go.

01:46:56.000 We got Bradley Macalow says, Tim, you've quite literally used Kamala as the prime example to demonstrate why you'll never support capital punishment.

01:47:05.000 Andrew, I've followed you since the PWF days.

01:47:08.000 Everyone needs to donate to the vacation fund.

01:47:11.000 Well, my point was, when people say like, you don't, like a guy who committed a crime and like, you know, abused kids or murdered kids, you don't think he should get the death penalty?

01:47:19.000 And my response is always, no I don't think that if Kamala Harris came up to me and said, give me the authority to kill that man, that I would agree with that.

01:47:27.000 So I had a debate on the Members Only show with one of our members that I thought was actually very good.

01:47:32.000 And we talked about, there's a guy who admitted to committing these crimes.

01:47:36.000 He says he did it.

01:47:37.000 There's evidence he did it. 0.61

01:47:38.000 Shouldn't he get the death penalty for serious abuse and harm to children and things like this?

01:47:43.000 And my response is, I don't believe that knowing a single person is bad justifies an institutionalized apparatus that just kills people.

01:47:53.000 Because while we as individuals who are discerning and moral, and we know we all are because we trust ourselves, and I mean that, like, we think, you know, we do our best.

01:48:03.000 The machine doesn't.

01:48:04.000 So if I was in a circumstance where I had to defend a child from great bodily harm or death, I know that I would make the right decision watching that happen with my own eyes and making the judgment.

01:48:14.000 It's something we hope never happens, but we have to defend ourselves and the lives of others.

01:48:19.000 But if, well after the fact, there is a state that then comes and says, just trust me, I saw it happen, I'm gonna be like, I can't just trust you, you're gonna kill a guy!

01:48:29.000 Right?

01:48:30.000 That's an action that I will not be involved in.

01:48:32.000 So the problem is, ultimately, the creation of an institution that kills people has a margin of error.

01:48:38.000 It is not so simple as you, the arbiter of morality, and I'm not saying that to be mean, I'm saying quite literally, You as an individual watching an egregious immoral action and a violation of every human atrocity before your eyes, you can make the determination.

01:48:53.000 We respect that in law.

01:48:54.000 You will defend your life or someone else's.

01:48:56.000 But I can't trust a guy in a suit, namely Kamala Harris, coming to me and being like, just trust me.

01:49:03.000 We should do it.

01:49:04.000 Well, there's also the idea baked in there of Christian ethics and reform.

01:49:09.000 The idea that we're not trying to actually punish people, we're trying to reform people so that they're not doing these bad actions again.

01:49:16.000 The idea of forgiveness and reformation and a person turning their lives around.

01:49:21.000 How many people have come out of prison after serving 20-25 years, come out Christians, lived the rest of their lives as model citizens?

01:49:28.000 We're not—the goal of the criminal justice system is supposed to be just.

01:49:32.000 And what is just?

01:49:32.000 Right.

01:49:34.000 Part of what is just is trying your hardest to reform people, even at your own personal expense.

01:49:39.000 It's part of Christian ethics.

01:49:41.000 In this case, it's one of the kind of few You could say middle-of-the-road or somewhat libertarian views that I have, but I tend to agree with you that Christians should err on the side of caution when it comes to taking anybody's life, especially if we have the means not to, because our goal is supposed to be to reform them, right? 0.93

01:50:03.000 I would much rather see a murderer, 25 years on the taxpayer's dime, reform and have his soul saved than, wow, we're gonna put him out of his misery.

01:50:11.000 I got a solution for you, though.

01:50:12.000 A halfway point.

01:50:13.000 It's called the island.

01:50:14.000 You send them all to an island like Australia?

01:50:16.000 Or what about...

01:50:18.000 We get an island that's like, you know, 20 miles around, waterfront area, and we say,

01:50:24.000 you have been found guilty by a jury of your peers of egregious crimes that warrant the death penalty.

01:50:30.000 However... I feel like I've seen this movie.

01:50:31.000 I don't know, I'm saying because we don't want to be the executioners, because there is a margin of error, instead, you are now excised from society.

01:50:41.000 We will not take your life, but you will no longer be a threat to anybody else.

01:50:44.000 You are free to go to the island.

01:50:45.000 What about the penal colony?

01:50:47.000 Like in Kafka, where they basically put you on a spit and tattoo your crime on your body?

01:50:51.000 No, I don't agree with that.

01:50:52.000 I say, my view is, if you've committed crimes against society and the people, we say, we don't want to kill innocent people, but there's a greater than probabilities chance, you know, we've determined that beyond a reasonable doubt you've committed this crime, so to remove any possibility of killing innocent people, island.

01:51:12.000 And if you're innocent, you go to the island, hey man, you have no right to what we build and share within this society.

01:51:17.000 Okay, so, but...

01:51:19.000 Isn't that kind of still giving people the death sentence at a turn?

01:51:22.000 Nope.

01:51:23.000 Because you're like, okay, we're going to outcast you from a place you don't want to be outcast from, and where you potentially have family that will assist you, right?

01:51:32.000 It's called a compromise.

01:51:34.000 Yeah, I know, but it just seems like you're kind of doing the exact same thing, which is taking the idea of, well, we could be wrong about this, There is a big difference between strapping someone down and injecting them, electrocuting them, or shooting them, and saying, here is an island where you can farm and live your life for the rest of your days away from the rest of us.

01:51:52.000 Big, big difference.

01:51:53.000 Wait, but the island's gonna have other prisoners on it, right?

01:51:55.000 Absolutely.

01:51:56.000 Yeah, so I mean, that's just like a Lord of the Flies island?

01:52:00.000 So, actually, research finds that... Or would it be like Australia?

01:52:04.000 When they took violent criminals and put them on islands, I think the Nordic countries did this? 0.94

01:52:08.000 Yeah, this was in the Norwegian countries, but listen... Crime reduced.

01:52:11.000 These were very controlled, and there's already very few violent criminals.

01:52:17.000 Literally don't care.

01:52:18.000 If the option is kill the person who's been convicted of the crime, or they can sort it out themselves, I think it's fair to say sort it out yourself.

01:52:24.000 You know what?

01:52:25.000 How about we give them the option? 0.92

01:52:27.000 You can go on the electric chair right now, or the lethal injection, or the island. 0.59

01:52:30.000 Pick one.

01:52:31.000 I mean, they're all gonna go to the island, right?

01:52:32.000 Exactly.

01:52:33.000 And so that way we know for... And they can say, I'm innocent, I'm innocent.

01:52:35.000 Well, then you get a choice.

01:52:36.000 We're not going to kill you, but you go to the island.

01:52:38.000 And they'll say, I'll go to the island, I guess.

01:52:39.000 And it's like, you're going to have to fend for yourself.

01:52:42.000 You don't have a right to anyone else's labor.

01:52:44.000 And that's just the way it's going to be.

01:52:45.000 I think it's a good compromise.

01:52:47.000 But let's, uh, we'll grab some more Super Chats.

01:52:49.000 Daniel Bennett says, have you tried to donate that antique elevator to a local museum and maybe you can use it as a tax write-off?

01:52:55.000 That's actually a really great idea.

01:52:56.000 I don't really care for the tax write-off.

01:52:58.000 I mean, maybe we'd get one, but donating the elevator to a museum actually sounds like a really great way, a really great idea.

01:53:06.000 And a nice way to get it out of there.

01:53:08.000 We have a historic building with an antique elevator, one of the first elevators ever in the country.

01:53:12.000 Really?

01:53:13.000 And so to repair it costs hundreds of thousands of dollars to customize 130-year-old machine parts that they don't manufacture anymore.

01:53:13.000 Yep.

01:53:21.000 And until we do, we can't have anyone in the building on the site.

01:53:24.000 We actually... This is insane.

01:53:27.000 There's a wall dividing the first floor to the stairs that go up to the second stairs.

01:53:31.000 But the law is that because of the way it's shaped, I guess, the door makes it one single unit.

01:53:36.000 And that means the stairs have to be accessible for people with disabilities.

01:53:39.000 And so the elevator has to be repaired and up to code, but it's a historic elevator.

01:53:43.000 So I'm just like, this is ridiculous.

01:53:46.000 The front part of the building is not even connected, and it's like, well, you can seal off the door and then make another door or something.

01:53:51.000 You can't, like, just give it vanity here?

01:53:54.000 Meaning, like, you just cosmetically make it look exactly the same, but behind the scenes... It's elevator code.

01:54:00.000 No, but behind the scenes, it's all modern machinery, right?

01:54:03.000 That would basically destroy an antique elevator.

01:54:06.000 Yeah, well... So the antique elevator can't operate on new parts.

01:54:09.000 It's basically a wooden platform in a box, and when you're riding in it, you can see the brick walls all around you.

01:54:17.000 It is not... There's no door.

01:54:19.000 Yeah, you gotta have a custom machinist come in and do it all.

01:54:21.000 There's a barn door you open and walk into a wooden platform that gets pulled up by a cable.

01:54:26.000 It's fun.

01:54:27.000 And I got no problem using it.

01:54:27.000 They say it's fine, but it's not up to code for the public.

01:54:30.000 Okay.

01:54:30.000 So they're like, here's what you gotta build to repair to make it work.

01:54:33.000 There's a guy who can do it.

01:54:34.000 And it's like the guy who does it is just like a hobbyist who knows how to do it, because it's so old.

01:54:40.000 And so we just... The real issue is not so much the elevator, to be honest.

01:54:44.000 It's permitting.

01:54:45.000 Yeah.

01:54:47.000 The city just does not want this to happen again.

01:54:50.000 They don't want to get sued.

01:54:51.000 No, I don't know.

01:54:52.000 Have fun.

01:54:52.000 It's just a historic building.

01:54:53.000 So what we're doing is we actually found a ready-to-go location and I said, I don't care.

01:54:57.000 Just open the coffee shop because we've been waiting two years. 0.85

01:54:59.000 This is ridiculous.

01:55:00.000 And if they're jamming us up, they're jamming us up.

01:55:02.000 How about we just find a place that's already got everything set up and we can open it in a month.

01:55:06.000 And so we're going to do that.

01:55:07.000 So that way there will be a separate location while we're still trying to get them to sort through the main location.

01:55:12.000 That makes sense.

01:55:13.000 Yep.

01:55:14.000 Alright, we'll grab some more.

01:55:16.000 Lurch says, I saw a comment online where someone went to the same gym as David Muir, and he loves to check himself out in the mirror and flex and pose.

01:55:16.000 What have we here?

01:55:23.000 What a loser. 0.99

01:55:25.000 To be fair- He does look like the type who would do that, though, Tim, to be honest. 0.99

01:55:28.000 I agree, but I don't believe it.

01:55:29.000 Like, I mean, it's a maybe, but that seems- that's like a really clever insult to someone who bothered you.

01:55:35.000 I think a lot of gym guys are like that, you know?

01:55:38.000 I don't know if it's Muir-specific.

01:55:41.000 I don't know.

01:55:42.000 He looks like the type.

01:55:44.000 I'm just saying.

01:55:45.000 He does.

01:55:46.000 Chris says the Kamala Harris campaign touts Tim as a dangerous radical that needs to be stopped but has no issue running targeted ads on his YouTube channels.

01:55:53.000 The Harris hypocrisy is out of this world.

01:55:55.000 That's actually a really good point. 0.60

01:55:57.000 Wow.

01:55:58.000 It's actually a really good point. 0.94

01:55:59.000 How can you be this lunatic terrorist when the person who called you that is advertising on your YouTube channel? 0.54

01:56:08.000 Well, when you're doing YouTube ads, you can go in and say, do not show my ads on these channels. 0.92

01:56:11.000 There's an exclusion list.

01:56:12.000 Yeah, I've seen it.

01:56:13.000 They could have chosen that.

01:56:14.000 That's interesting.

01:56:14.000 Yeah.

01:56:14.000 Very interesting.

01:56:15.000 Well, maybe she's here to save the audience, you know?

01:56:17.000 If she just appears and gives them another option, they'll turn the cheek and head the right way.

01:56:21.000 I mean, it seems like that's just kind of more evidence that they didn't actually believe what they were saying, right?

01:56:26.000 Yeah, I think it is.

01:56:27.000 And also- I think that's true in a lot of cases with the campaign.

01:56:30.000 I mean, it sort of goes to show that they probably think there's free thinkers who watch the show and are able to make up their own minds about things once they have all the information.

01:56:40.000 There's like 200 haters.

01:56:43.000 Who love Kamala Harris and hate Tim Pool, who I'm sure are always in the chat.

01:56:48.000 But I've seen the Tim Pool chat.

01:56:49.000 I've seen you guys.

01:56:51.000 And none of these guys are going to vote for Kamala Harris.

01:56:53.000 None of these guys are going to vote for Kamala Harris.

01:56:57.000 I like that there is always someone from the Harris Walls campaign watching.

01:57:00.000 I mean, that's the reality.

01:57:01.000 That's why they have the clips.

01:57:03.000 All right.

01:57:05.000 Mitchell Pate says, Andrew, are you still part of the Whatever podcast?

01:57:09.000 I've wondered if those OF ladies you debated were really as simple as the clips make them out to be.

01:57:14.000 If they are, is there hope for them breaking out of that mindset?

01:57:17.000 Well, I was never part of the Whatever podcast, standalone podcast.

01:57:21.000 I am the most recurring guest to the podcast.

01:57:26.000 I go on usually twice a week.

01:57:28.000 Is that in LA?

01:57:30.000 It's in Santa Barbara.

01:57:31.000 And so that's not going to change any time soon because, you know, we have a lot of fun.

01:57:37.000 You could maybe perhaps call me like a co-host pro-tem or something like this.

01:57:41.000 But anyway, no, many of the various girls that I debate with are quite intelligent and we have good discussions and good debates back and forth. 1.00

01:57:51.000 Now, and some of them are really, really stupid. 1.00

01:57:54.000 So I mean, it just depends, right? 1.00

01:57:56.000 But some of them are pretty smart.

01:57:59.000 So yeah, I'm not, not throwing shade at all of them.

01:58:01.000 But if you're asking, the last part of his question, Tim was, is there hope?

01:58:07.000 Right?

01:58:07.000 Is there?

01:58:08.000 Yeah, there's tons of hope.

01:58:08.000 There's always hope.

01:58:09.000 Don't be blackpilled, dude. 0.94

01:58:10.000 Don't don't take the black pill.

01:58:11.000 Alright, Clever Username says, I think the foundation of Tim's argument about rights can be summed up this way.

01:58:16.000 We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their creator with certain unalienable rights.

01:58:23.000 That's an axiom.

01:58:26.000 That's axiomatic.

01:58:27.000 I believe that, uh, I personally believe it is true that we are endowed with rights by God.

01:58:33.000 And the purpose of those are to better allow us to be fruitful and multiply.

01:58:37.000 I believe that we're imbued with duties, which God commands us to do, and then gives us the free will to ignore them.

01:58:43.000 But I have not ever seen a right.

01:58:47.000 I've only ever seen what I can ascertain as being force.

01:58:51.000 You do exist, but people can use force to take away your existence.

01:58:55.000 Rights can be violated.

01:58:56.000 My view is, call it duty, call it whatever you want, God says, here are pathways for you to fulfill my desires for you.

01:59:03.000 You have free will, and other people will try to violate that, and you are faced with difficult challenges and evil, and then you've got Demons, or whatever people want to call it, whispering in the ears of people to corrupt them, and then they seek to violate the divine path.

01:59:20.000 Well, I agree that—I agree morality comes from God, 100%, and that you have to use God as the basis for morality.

01:59:28.000 That's where I would move, is towards some form of—it wouldn't exactly be divine command, but a simplified, easy version is divine command.

01:59:37.000 I think we would just kind of agree to that.

01:59:38.000 The idea, though, is that it's a command.

01:59:42.000 The Ten Commandments were just that.

01:59:44.000 Commandments.

01:59:45.000 You must do this.

01:59:47.000 Your job is to obey, right?

01:59:49.000 There's nothing I've ever seen which is a command from God which infers a right, and it's the same thing with Jesus Christ.

01:59:56.000 I've never seen a right inferred, only here's your duty and what you should do.

02:00:01.000 Here's a good one.

02:00:01.000 Son of Chad says, would you banish the Hulk like the Illuminati did?

02:00:05.000 It led to World War Hulk, plus it didn't work with Napoleon.

02:00:08.000 What I would say is... It did work with Napoleon. 0.73

02:00:11.000 What I would say is, banishing Hulk not working is the construct of someone's imagination.

02:00:15.000 So, claiming it didn't work with Hulk is not a historical reference.

02:00:20.000 Banishing the Hulk is actually a very interesting question.

02:00:23.000 I know it's maybe silly, but the Hulk is a guy who, when he gets angry, he becomes an uncontrollable rage monster that kills and destroys.

02:00:31.000 How do you deal with that?

02:00:32.000 He's not intentionally doing these things, but I'm still dangerous.

02:00:37.000 Yeah.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - September 17, 2024

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