Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - 13 American Troops Lose Their Lives In Kabul Attack, Biden Vows Revenge w-Becket Adams

00:00:00.000 Peace.

00:00:13.000 It's been a very tumultuous past, I guess, couple of weeks, couple of months in Afghanistan.

00:00:19.000 And today, you know, mid-morning, we get some of the most horrifying news that there was an attack.

00:00:27.000 We're now getting confirmation up to, so far, 13 U.S.

00:00:31.000 service members have lost their lives.

00:00:32.000 And there's some crazy stuff I read.

00:00:34.000 Look, I want to say with the breaking news, it's hard to know what all the details are.

00:00:38.000 Different sources are giving different numbers.

00:00:40.000 The most up-to-date that I've been able to find says 13 U.S.

00:00:42.000 service members have lost their lives.

00:00:44.000 I read one story that said that the U.S.

00:00:47.000 had warned the American troops at the airport in Kabul that there was a strong possibility of a terror attack.

00:00:56.000 In the morning, the UK and the US advised all people, especially their citizens, to avoid the area.

00:01:02.000 And these brave men and women stayed doing their jobs, knowing, being told, that there is a very strong likelihood of a terror attack.

00:01:11.000 Now we're learning that they lost their lives.

00:01:14.000 Of course, there's a lot going around.

00:01:16.000 Republicans are absolutely coming after Biden on this one.

00:01:20.000 He botched the whole thing.

00:01:21.000 He abandoned Bagram Air Force Base before evacuating civilians.

00:01:24.000 And now we're learning that there's a wild, wild estimate of the Americans that are still in Kabul.

00:01:28.000 Some say it's only a few thousand.

00:01:30.000 Apparently, some reports say it could even be in the tens of thousands, maybe 30,000.

00:01:33.000 We don't know for sure.

00:01:34.000 And the U.S.

00:01:35.000 government, Biden administration, is not actually confirming these numbers.

00:01:38.000 But my friends, I hope you are ready to be angry Because it's not my intent to make you angry every day.

00:01:43.000 But we have reporting now from Politico that the U.S.

00:01:46.000 gave the names of American citizens and Afghan allies to the Taliban.

00:01:51.000 Telling them, like, here's the people that we want out.

00:01:54.000 One defense official said they just put those people on the kill list.

00:01:59.000 This is bad.

00:02:00.000 It's bad.

00:02:00.000 And I'm sure, I feel like we're gonna be in this conversation for quite a bit.

00:02:04.000 Apparently Glenn Beck has personally traveled down there.

00:02:07.000 This is crazy stuff.

00:02:09.000 You know, we'll talk all about it, but man, that is mad respect.

00:02:14.000 Absolutely, absolutely tremendous respect.

00:02:16.000 So we're gonna have to get into this and just...

00:02:18.000 We got other stories.

00:02:19.000 We do, but we definitely got to talk about this.

00:02:21.000 So joining us today is senior commentary for the Washington Examiner, Beckett Adams.

00:02:26.000 Do you want to just give a quick introduction for yourself?

00:02:26.000 Thanks for having me.

00:02:29.000 Yeah, I do senior commentary for the Washington Examiner.

00:02:31.000 I enjoy especially covering politics, but mostly keep an eye on what the media is up to.

00:02:35.000 Right on, right on.

00:02:36.000 Cool.

00:02:37.000 Dig it, man.

00:02:38.000 Hey.

00:02:38.000 Is that a captain's uniform?

00:02:40.000 Yes.

00:02:41.000 Reporting to the bridge, Tim.

00:02:42.000 I'm here and I'm ready for you.

00:02:43.000 Ian's wearing a Star Trek shirt.

00:02:44.000 This is the next generation Star Trek red shirt, so I'm not the first guy that gets sent down on my death.

00:02:48.000 I was worried, yeah.

00:02:48.000 Good, good.

00:02:49.000 I'm actually one of the commanders, so get ready.

00:02:52.000 Awesome.

00:02:53.000 I'm excited for tonight's conversation, but I am disturbed by what's been going on, so hopefully we can get all the way to the bottom of it.

00:02:53.000 Sup, dog?

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00:03:37.000 Let's just quickly go into the more serious nature of what's happening.

00:03:41.000 Here's a story.

00:03:43.000 This is one of the most recent stories we've been able to find.

00:03:46.000 ABC7 reporting at 7 p.m.

00:03:48.000 13 U.S.

00:03:49.000 service members killed in Kabul airport attacks.

00:03:52.000 Biden says attackers will pay.

00:03:54.000 We will not forgive.

00:03:55.000 We will not forget.

00:03:57.000 We will hunt you down and make you pay, Biden said.

00:04:01.000 Two suicide bombers and gunmen attacked crowds of Afghans flocking to Kabul's airport Thursday, transforming a scene of desperation into one of horror in the waning days of an airlift for those fleeing the Taliban takeover.

00:04:15.000 The attacks killed at least 60 Afghans and 13 U.S.

00:04:19.000 troops, Afghan and U.S.

00:04:20.000 officials.

00:04:21.000 I think one of the most harrowing things I heard was a man who was an interpreter for the Marine Corps. 1.00

00:04:28.000 Called into Fox News and said that after the blast there was a, you know, five-year-old little girl that he was trying to resuscitate and she died in his arms.

00:04:37.000 This didn't have to happen.

00:04:40.000 Why are we in this mess?

00:04:42.000 No, this had to happen.

00:04:44.000 So much of the criticism that has been directed at the Biden administration, which, by the way, they've tried to deflect by conflating criticism for how we are withdrawing with the very sort of non-existent criticism that we should have never left.

00:04:58.000 The main argument isn't we shouldn't leave Afghanistan.

00:05:01.000 I think most people actually do support that.

00:05:02.000 A lot of polling shows that, especially recent polling.

00:05:05.000 The criticism is for how we have done it.

00:05:09.000 In the week since this has happened, it has been clear that everything they have done has been made up as they go.

00:05:14.000 They claim they planned for all contingencies.

00:05:14.000 There was no plan.

00:05:16.000 Clearly, they did not.

00:05:17.000 They evacuated the military before they evacuated our allies and civilians.

00:05:21.000 In the dead of night, no less.

00:05:22.000 And they didn't inform the field commander at Bagramir base, by the way.

00:05:26.000 They didn't tell the Afghani commander.

00:05:27.000 They just, Irish goodbye overnight.

00:05:30.000 After 20 years, it's like a bad boyfriend.

00:05:33.000 So one thing that I hear repeatedly when I criticize or I talk about this on social media or write about it are these kind of, you know, the Twitter Biden stans respond with, oh, could you could you be doing it better?

00:05:45.000 Yes.

00:05:46.000 Yes, I could.

00:05:47.000 Number one, you evacuate your civilians first, leave your military there as a rear guard, then you take out your combat troops.

00:05:54.000 So don't close down Bagram.

00:05:56.000 It has two airstrips.

00:05:57.000 It's also secluded and strategically situated.

00:06:00.000 Instead, they've bottlenecked everyone in an international airport in Kabul that's surrounded by the Taliban.

00:06:05.000 And we're now completely dependent on whether or not the Taliban will pretty please let our people live.

00:06:09.000 How many people in Kabul?

00:06:10.000 Five million or something like that?

00:06:11.000 Roughly.

00:06:12.000 I'd have to double check.

00:06:13.000 But so it's a very dense urban populated area.

00:06:16.000 And now we're asking our soldiers and Marines and everyone else over there to essentially ferry these people to safety, despite the fact they're completely surrounded.

00:06:23.000 This needs to be stressed to all of the people who are desperate to say it's not Biden's fault.

00:06:30.000 First thing I'll give you is when they say it's George W. Bush fault, I go, all right, well, to a certain degree, I would agree with that. 0.50

00:06:36.000 But Donald Trump had a peace deal and a plan for, for, for the evacuation, for the pullout.

00:06:42.000 And yeah, I don't think Joe Biden had a plan. 0.99

00:06:45.000 No, that's the thing too, is like, look, we can say Trump's plan was garbage. 0.99

00:06:49.000 We can say it was ill-advised. 1.00

00:06:50.000 We can say it was stupid. 1.00

00:06:51.000 That doesn't matter. 1.00

00:06:52.000 Biden is not beholden to it. 1.00

00:06:54.000 He's a grown ass president. 0.98

00:06:56.000 He can make his own decisions. 0.96

00:06:57.000 And he has shown repeatedly, he has no problem overturning Trump executive actions, Trump policies, or anything else related to Trump.

00:07:03.000 He ran on the fact that he would overturn everything.

00:07:05.000 So the idea that, cause he's been striking this bizarre tone where it's paradoxical, where he says, no, yeah, I made the decision because I care about America also.

00:07:15.000 My hands are tied, what can I do?

00:07:17.000 Already, we gotta break this down and make sure everybody understands this.

00:07:21.000 The original deadline was May 1st.

00:07:23.000 You should not, in the middle of the night, skip out on your strategic air force base, which is, I believe, about 45 miles outside of Kabul.

00:07:31.000 It's got, what, two runways?

00:07:32.000 Two runways, yeah. 0.67

00:07:33.000 So, I mean, the first thing I started reading when I'm reading from the opinions of national security experts, military experts, in these various op-eds, Why did they, in the middle of the night, abandon the base, along with our resources, our weapons, just the Blackhawk helicopters, and then say, okay, now for everybody who's still there, if you want to leave, go to the airport.

00:07:59.000 I'm just, I'm confused.

00:08:00.000 I'm genuinely confused, because let me just stress this point. 0.99

00:08:05.000 Either they're really, really dumb, or they did it on purpose. 1.00

00:08:09.000 This is something we keep coming back to where you, you know, the old saying is never attribute malice to that which can be explained simply by stupidity. 1.00

00:08:15.000 Hand lens razor. 1.00

00:08:16.000 Thank you.

00:08:17.000 My favorite.

00:08:18.000 But you're looking at this is how we left military aircraft, which now the Taliban have and they're almost certainly going to sell that to the Chinese or Russians to disseminate and study and make their own versions. 0.84

00:08:28.000 We have hundreds of guns.

00:08:29.000 We left millions of dollars.

00:08:30.000 We left trucks.

00:08:32.000 And then again, taking military out first doesn't make any sense.

00:08:35.000 You look at this and you go, why and how?

00:08:37.000 I keep getting stuck on that.

00:08:38.000 And the sort of the nonsensical approach that Biden has taken to this every step of the way is we had to get out.

00:08:46.000 And then when the Taliban came and overran the country, nobody saw this would happen.

00:08:51.000 Then the bombs go off today.

00:08:52.000 And essentially it's, well, you know, this is why we have to leave.

00:08:54.000 And also we have to leave and also send in more troops because we now need to go get the people who did this.

00:08:59.000 What is their plan?

00:09:01.000 Where is the political commentary gone from?

00:09:03.000 What, a couple days ago it was, this is literally Trump's plan, it's Trump's fault.

00:09:06.000 Now they're saying, bombs go off all the time in Afghanistan, that's why we're leaving.

00:09:12.000 So it goes to the point, we're like, who cares if this is Trump's thing?

00:09:15.000 You are president now.

00:09:16.000 That's what he said.

00:09:17.000 He did say that.

00:09:17.000 his press conference, President Biden was, is if he takes full responsibility for the

00:09:22.000 dead Marines and the Navy medic, the corpsman.

00:09:25.000 And he answered, not even loosely paraphrasing, I take full responsibility.

00:09:29.000 But remember, this was Trump's plan.

00:09:31.000 That's what he said.

00:09:32.000 He did say that he was responding to Peter Doocy at Fox News.

00:09:34.000 Trump's plan was not to leave in August.

00:09:36.000 Right.

00:09:37.000 It was May 1st.

00:09:37.000 That's the other thing to point out is that he keeps saying, I am tied to what Trump did.

00:09:41.000 They already blew through the deadline established by the Trump administration.

00:09:44.000 And the point we keep coming back to is Trump's plan didn't involve shuttering Bagram, getting the military out first, and then abandoning U.S.

00:09:50.000 nationals and our allies.

00:09:51.000 That was never in the Trump plan. 0.98

00:09:56.000 It's hard for me to believe they're this dumb, to be completely honest, because you know that if you pull the military out before the civilians and you abandon an Air Force base, you know this is going to happen. 0.98

00:10:07.000 So, I mean, look, we keep coming back. 1.00

00:10:08.000 Is it stupidity? 1.00

00:10:09.000 Because they say we didn't have any intelligence. 1.00

00:10:11.000 General Miley said we didn't have anything indicating that the Taliban would essentially retake the entire country within seven days.

00:10:17.000 The intelligence community is saying otherwise.

00:10:19.000 Is this like the line from the old Dire Straits song?

00:10:22.000 Two men say they're Jesus, one of them's got to be wrong?

00:10:24.000 That's what this feels like.

00:10:25.000 Okay, somebody's not telling the truth right now.

00:10:27.000 There's got to be hearings on this.

00:10:28.000 I mean, they knew.

00:10:29.000 Of course they knew they were ready to take the country in seven days.

00:10:32.000 They'd known that we were evacuating for like eight months.

00:10:35.000 They've been ready for this moment.

00:10:37.000 No, but we weren't supposed to pull logistics and support for the Afghan security forces.

00:10:41.000 Yeah, they smelled blood and they seized the opportunity.

00:10:43.000 Well, there were videos going back a month or two ago where the Afghan commandos were fighting back.

00:10:50.000 And then when there's this video, it's horrifying.

00:10:52.000 They run out of ammo.

00:10:53.000 So they surrender. 0.84

00:10:54.000 And the Taliban comes in and executes them all.

00:10:56.000 Puts it on the internet.

00:10:56.000 Films it all.

00:10:58.000 So they didn't immediately just say, we give up.

00:11:00.000 No, the Biden administration abandoned them, as you mentioned, didn't even tell the, was it the commander, the Afghan?

00:11:06.000 Yeah, he was the airfield commander there.

00:11:09.000 Yeah, at Bagram.

00:11:10.000 He was the Bagram commander of the Afghan army.

00:11:13.000 I'm looking at a satellite image of Bagram and Kabul.

00:11:16.000 Who in their right mind would think that evacuating Bagram would make any sense?

00:11:21.000 If you look on the map, they're like in a valley together, Kabul and Bagram, surrounded by mountains, like defensible location.

00:11:28.000 Why would they abandon that airstrip?

00:11:30.000 The only way you can get to that airstrip is with trucks or with, what's the word I'm looking for, with an air force.

00:11:36.000 Neither of which, well, Taliban have trucks, but they have an air force.

00:11:39.000 Yeah, they do.

00:11:40.000 Because we abandoned Bagram!

00:11:42.000 This is the thing.

00:11:43.000 Biden also claimed today that he was advised by his top commanders and military advisors that Bagram could be left because it didn't provide much of a strategic output.

00:11:52.000 So like again, I don't want to jump on the impeach train or whatever too soon, but at this point there need to be hearings.

00:11:57.000 Especially now that American blood has been shed, which I just want to clarify. 0.89

00:12:01.000 One of the more really irritating and insidious narratives that has been kind of bubbling up in the press right now is Well, you know, not a lot of Americans have died.

00:12:09.000 What about our Afghan allies?

00:12:10.000 They're being hunted. 0.94

00:12:11.000 They're being executed.

00:12:12.000 Their homes are being, you know, door to door.

00:12:15.000 They're being dragged down the street.

00:12:16.000 They're being tortured.

00:12:17.000 That doesn't matter, just as long as American blood's not shed. 0.74

00:12:19.000 And now they're saying, well, you know, the bombs go off.

00:12:22.000 It happens all the time.

00:12:23.000 And of course, that's why we're getting out in the first place.

00:12:25.000 It's not Biden's fault.

00:12:27.000 No, I'll tell you what I said, what many people said, what almost every single person we've had on this show has said.

00:12:32.000 It is such common sense.

00:12:36.000 Abandoning American citizens in Kabul.

00:12:39.000 Abandoning Bagram Air Force Base.

00:12:42.000 You better prepare yourself for what's to come the next several days when we start seeing the blood of Americans and our allies. 0.92

00:12:48.000 Now, what we're seeing here Man, it's like it's got getting punched in the gut because we knew it was bad already.

00:12:55.000 I kind of feel like in the past few days I was thinking like, wow, Biden screwed this one up.

00:12:55.000 And we are.

00:13:00.000 But hearing that they were securing the airport and they were getting out, I was like, OK, he botched this.

00:13:05.000 Americans are going to be stranded.

00:13:07.000 But maybe this ends at the very least without reaching this level.

00:13:12.000 Like I didn't I didn't.

00:13:14.000 Part of me, I guess, wanted to hold out thinking like we're not going to see, you know, bombs going off at the airport.

00:13:19.000 I mean, I guess I'll just disagree.

00:13:20.000 I thought the moment that they bottlenecked themselves in Kabul, surrounded by the Taliban, we're completely at the mercy.

00:13:26.000 What I'm saying, emotionally.

00:13:28.000 I was sitting here thinking, like, it's gonna be okay.

00:13:31.000 Like, the Americans are in trouble, that I get.

00:13:34.000 Our allies, they're in there.

00:13:35.000 But I have a feeling, like, there's a chance that we're gonna at least just taper off here.

00:13:40.000 It's not gonna escalate to that point.

00:13:42.000 And I think it was me being naively hopeful, you know what I mean?

00:13:45.000 Well, but also, like I was saying before the show too, the Taliban, I think the Taliban wants to be recognized legitimately as the government of Afghanistan, so they're willing to play ball here and make sure these people get out safely, but there's lots of rogue elements with explosives that want to kill.

00:13:59.000 Well, ISIS-K has claimed responsibility for the bombing today, which apparently ISIS-K is the off-branch of the old ISIS, but to your point, I think a lot of us are going to have to prepare ourselves emotionally, mentally, spiritually, whatever, for if there are Americans left behind, which I guess I should add right now, the White House is very clearly signaling that they themselves believe Americans will be left behind.

00:14:20.000 They will be captured and we will see happen to them most likely what ISIS has done to their prisoners.

00:14:25.000 They line them up in their orange suits and they make propaganda out of them.

00:14:28.000 It's worse than that.

00:14:30.000 My friends, I hope you are prepared for the next story we have for you and I hope you're prepared to sit, I hope you're sitting down for this.

00:14:38.000 With the amount of people that are estimated to be trapped in Afghanistan, be it Afghan allies, even the citizens, but American citizens especially, who we have a responsibility to as our, as our, you know, Our brothers and sisters, you know, as well as our Afghan allies for sure, and to humanity in general, there's estimates between 1,000-2,000 at the low end, where they're like, oh there's about 1,000 or 2,000 left of American citizens we've got to evacuate.

00:15:01.000 Some are saying that it was, you know, NBC News reported 15,000, then they evacuated about 4,500, so it might be 10,000.

00:15:08.000 When we hear, and I want you to remember this, that there are American hostages, I want you to remember what the Biden administration did from Politico.

00:15:18.000 officials provided Taliban with names of Americans and Afghan allies to evacuate.

00:15:18.000 U.S.

00:15:24.000 Quote, basically, they just put all those Afghans on a kill list, said one, one official, one defense official.

00:15:31.000 I don't see why that would be untrue for the Americans.

00:15:34.000 Biden did this with Vladimir Putin.

00:15:36.000 Remember that?

00:15:36.000 He was like, hey, here's the list of things we don't want you to attack.

00:15:39.000 And they're like, thanks for the hit list of your most important infrastructure.

00:15:42.000 Now they're coming out and being like, here are the people we really care about.

00:15:45.000 Like, oh, so the ransom's doubled, eh?

00:15:48.000 Or not even the people we care about.

00:15:49.000 Hey, by the way, here are these people.

00:15:52.000 These people have been hiding, they've been begging for help.

00:15:54.000 It was actually my old buddy from Washington Examiner, Phil Wegman, he's now with RealClear.

00:15:58.000 He was the one who asked the President today at the press conference about this report.

00:16:02.000 He says, can you comment on it?

00:16:03.000 And the President essentially confirmed it, saying there may be such lists being given to the Taliban, but I'm not sure.

00:16:08.000 Which is, again, that doesn't inspire a lot of confidence in me that the Commander-in-Chief apparently doesn't know what's going on over there.

00:16:13.000 We've seen the Taliban beating people.

00:16:16.000 There's a video of an Australian man.

00:16:17.000 He's being beaten.

00:16:18.000 He's covered in blood.

00:16:19.000 The Taliban can claim whatever they want, but they... Look, the leadership, like you mentioned just previously, Ian, that they want to be seen as... They do want to be seen as a legitimate government.

00:16:28.000 They're calling themselves the Islamic Emirate of Afghanistan.

00:16:31.000 They don't want to be just this rogue element, the Taliban.

00:16:33.000 They want to be the government.

00:16:34.000 But they can't control their own people right stuff gets leaked look that that list is gonna get leaked look even if

00:16:39.000 they want To be a legitimate government. I think the fact that we're

00:16:42.000 losing sight of the fact that it's the fanatic death cult And we are now completely at their mercy. We are look I can

00:16:47.000 I can get down this road later We are the greatest country the biggest superpower

00:16:53.000 I love America, and we are completely beholden to the whims of a fanatic death cult in Afghanistan. 1.00

00:16:59.000 By choice!

00:17:00.000 By Biden's choice!

00:17:01.000 And the fact that there's a question about whether this administration won't move earth and heaven to save its own citizens.

00:17:09.000 Any country or a government that doesn't make every possible effort to rescue its own people is not a country that deserves to be one.

00:17:15.000 I got to read you this paragraph. US officials in Kabul gave the Taliban a list of names of

00:17:20.000 American citizens, green card holders and Afghan allies to grant entry into the militant controlled

00:17:26.000 outer perimeter of the city's airport, a choice that's prompted outrage behind the scenes from

00:17:31.000 lawmakers and military officials. It seems like the Biden administration is treating these people

00:17:38.000 like any other country or government when they literally just stormed in, killed a bunch of

00:17:43.000 Afghan security forces, started taking over cities and they're like, yeah, here, here's a list of

00:17:48.000 names for your checkpoints.

00:17:50.000 Do you think that the Taliban checkpoints are legitimate checkpoints where they're going to be like, oh, yes, an American passport, right this way, sir. 0.56

00:17:56.000 Or they're gonna be like, we got an American, okay, right that way, sir. 0.65

00:17:59.000 Maybe, to your point, they might for the Americans, because they don't want to start another match.

00:18:04.000 Who knows if Biden will actually make good on his threat, that ISIS-K will be met with swift retribution. 1.00

00:18:10.000 Those Afghan allies, those people are as good as dead. 1.00

00:18:12.000 The Taliban will make an example out of them. 1.00

00:18:14.000 Oh, yeah.

00:18:15.000 Those people don't have a chance.

00:18:16.000 Now they know where they are and they know they're coming.

00:18:18.000 This is the one thing that I think might naively be giving me hope.

00:18:22.000 That the Taliban is scared.

00:18:23.000 You start going after these American citizens, and you're gonna give them an excuse for re-entry. 0.99

00:18:29.000 And they want the Americans gone. 0.76

00:18:30.000 They want us out.

00:18:32.000 The Afghans who are staying behind? 1.00

00:18:34.000 Well, they're the apostates.

00:18:37.000 They're refugees.

00:18:38.000 They should be admitted status, refugee status to the United States.

00:18:41.000 Our allies?

00:18:42.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:18:43.000 The translators, the families of the translators.

00:18:45.000 The fact that we didn't get them out first.

00:18:48.000 We knew this was going to happen.

00:18:50.000 We knew the Taliban would come after these people.

00:18:52.000 We saw this in Iraq after ISIS came.

00:18:54.000 My brother served in Iraq as a U.S.

00:18:57.000 Marine, and one of the first things ISIS did when they came to power and started marauding through the Middle East is they killed anyone who worked with the United States Marines.

00:19:02.000 So a lot of guys my brother worked with are now dead.

00:19:05.000 There's precedent for this.

00:19:07.000 But where we're at right now is that U.S.

00:19:09.000 officials actually gave the names of these people to the Taliban.

00:19:13.000 That's a kill list.

00:19:14.000 I agree with a defense official.

00:19:16.000 Like we can say, we're crossing our fingers that the Taliban has enough control, they're going to say, get these Americans out of here before we cause more trouble.

00:19:23.000 But this list of Afghan citizens who worked with them?

00:19:27.000 Nah, they're done.

00:19:28.000 I mean, the Biden administration in this regard, I think is correct, is that we have shared interests with the Taliban. 0.78

00:19:33.000 We want to leave, they want us out.

00:19:34.000 So they may play ball to a degree, but the fact that here we are hoping and praying, please, fanatic death cult, play ball.

00:19:39.000 I mean, this, we put ourselves in this.

00:19:42.000 The biggest, most powerful country in the world, aside from maybe China, has put itself in this position.

00:19:47.000 And now we're just hoping and praying, but I'm telling you, those Afghan allies, they are as good as dead. 1.00

00:19:52.000 You know how we put ourselves in this position?

00:19:54.000 How?

00:19:54.000 Trump was anti-elected.

00:19:57.000 Can you just explain that?

00:19:58.000 There was no enthusiasm for Joe Biden in the election.

00:20:01.000 It was like 20% or something.

00:20:01.000 None.

00:20:04.000 Enthusiasm for Donald Trump was in the 90s.

00:20:06.000 Enthusiasm against Trump was also very, very high.

00:20:10.000 And so this is what happens when you say, we will literally vote for anything because the orange man is bad. 0.62

00:20:18.000 We had a man in Joe Biden who couldn't talk, so they made up that he had a stutter.

00:20:23.000 You go watch videos from Joe Biden when he was in the Senate.

00:20:26.000 He doesn't have a stutter.

00:20:27.000 He never had a stutter.

00:20:28.000 Maybe when he was a little kid, I guess.

00:20:29.000 Fine.

00:20:29.000 Now they're claiming that his inability to speak, his memory failings.

00:20:34.000 Oh, it's just he's got a stutter.

00:20:35.000 Stop being mean to him.

00:20:37.000 No, no, no. 0.95

00:20:38.000 People were willing to elect a man who was old and incapable simply because they hated Trump.

00:20:44.000 And I mentioned this the other day, I genuinely believe there would at least be adults in the room like, okay, well, you know, this happened, but there's gonna be some adults in the room who are at least gonna be like, you know, when Grandpa falls asleep, I'll take this over and we'll finish up these documents and get a plan ready and just, you know, wheelchair him into the sun with a little burlap blanket on his lap.

00:21:02.000 No, they didn't.

00:21:04.000 And now I kind of understand what's really going on with this administration.

00:21:07.000 That Biden's at the meeting, and he mutters and stumbles, and they all just kind of look at each other and go, whatever, because all I care about is me.

00:21:14.000 Where's Kamala Harris when all this goes down? 1.00

00:21:16.000 Don't look at me, she's gone.

00:21:18.000 So now I genuinely believe that in this administration with Joe Biden, Milley, Kamala Harris, they don't know, they don't care.

00:21:27.000 They're probably just thinking like, hey man, I'm not going to do anything that grants me the responsibility for this one.

00:21:34.000 So if Biden mutters and falls asleep, we're just going to say, fine.

00:21:37.000 Because then when it all goes belly up, his fault, not ours.

00:21:40.000 Right.

00:21:41.000 Instead of being the adults in the room and being like, Biden, abandoning an Air Force base for an embassy is a bad idea.

00:21:46.000 Mark Milley, what did he say?

00:21:48.000 He said, I was ordered to guard the embassy.

00:21:50.000 Did you maybe just think, um, Mr. President, we have to guard the Air Force base.

00:21:54.000 How are we going to, how are we going to evacuate people?

00:21:56.000 No, he was just like, you got it.

00:21:58.000 White rage. 0.79

00:21:59.000 Right.

00:22:00.000 I mean, these are career bureaucrats.

00:22:01.000 Someone like Kamala Harris isn't going to risk everything she's climbed her way to the top to get in order to tell Biden no. 0.72

00:22:08.000 In order to save 20,000 people.

00:22:10.000 Yeah, she's not going to risk her career.

00:22:12.000 Are they really that craven?

00:22:13.000 I mean, to me, this is one of those things.

00:22:16.000 I'm trying to think of like a parallel.

00:22:17.000 Now it's too dark. 0.97

00:22:19.000 Well, okay, Catholic sex abuse is such a clear-cut thing that the Church should be fighting. 0.97

00:22:26.000 I'm a Roman Catholic, by the way, so I'm not just dumping on the Catholic Church. 0.87

00:22:29.000 The fact that it is struggling to deal with what is clearly a vile and evil thing, and it's turned into a like, you know, it's difficult sometimes.

00:22:37.000 No, no, this is so easy.

00:22:39.000 How are you struggling with this?

00:22:41.000 Likewise, in a different thing.

00:22:42.000 That's dark.

00:22:43.000 It's very dark.

00:22:44.000 Let's get back to the administration.

00:22:45.000 No, but it's something like that.

00:22:46.000 It was like, how are you struggling with the question of getting every American out?

00:22:50.000 This is so easy.

00:22:51.000 This is so basic.

00:22:53.000 Every major great civilization has put a premium on its own people and the fact that they're actually using language.

00:22:58.000 The one thing, watch this.

00:23:00.000 Jen Psaki and all of them are saying, using that weird phrase, that terminology, Americans who wanted to leave.

00:23:05.000 Right.

00:23:06.000 They're already laying the groundwork for the Americans who are going to be left behind because they can claim they didn't want to leave.

00:23:10.000 Actually, the president said that today in his press conference.

00:23:12.000 He said there were a lot who didn't want to leave because they got family.

00:23:14.000 And the thing is, once America pulls out and Taliban takes over, who is going to double check that claim? 0.94

00:23:19.000 A bunch of American journalists are going to fly into Taliban controlled Afghanistan?

00:23:22.000 This is priorities.

00:23:24.000 What has the Biden administration prioritized?

00:23:27.000 Nation building.

00:23:29.000 That's it.

00:23:30.000 So when they decide they're going to be getting out, American citizens are not their priority at all. 0.50

00:23:37.000 It's just, this was our priority, we're leaving, fine.

00:23:41.000 Everything else we don't give a damn about.

00:23:42.000 But how can it not be?

00:23:43.000 Look, let's put the moral aspect, the way that it's morally decrepit.

00:23:47.000 that they are dancing around this issue and hemming and hawing on the issue of saving Americans and Afghan allies.

00:23:53.000 Let's look at the political issue.

00:23:55.000 This doesn't go away.

00:23:57.000 I know Reuters reported recently that the White House strategy is essentially to just wait this out.

00:24:03.000 They think people will forget about it after it comes and goes.

00:24:05.000 No, this is going to be so much worse.

00:24:07.000 First of all, it already is worse than Saigon.

00:24:10.000 And Saigon didn't have people with cameras in their pockets everywhere.

00:24:13.000 You had a couple of major news wires taking photos.

00:24:16.000 Everyone is going to see this.

00:24:17.000 And I'm telling you, if Americans are left and they're captured and they're made into propaganda tools and killed and executed, you don't weather that.

00:24:25.000 No, he's got to resign.

00:24:27.000 No.

00:24:27.000 And then you have President Kamala.

00:24:29.000 I know.

00:24:30.000 I said, with all the talk about impeaching Joe Biden, which would you prefer, President Biden or President Harris?

00:24:30.000 I tweeted that.

00:24:36.000 Most people said President Biden.

00:24:37.000 Can I just take the arsenic?

00:24:37.000 I know, right?

00:24:39.000 Somebody said, don't forget to include Pelosi, because if you get Kamala, I don't see grounds for impeaching Kamala.

00:24:48.000 Well, it turns into this whole weird thing where the Senate is already split, so I don't even think she gets the Vice President, because that's a lopsided vote.

00:24:54.000 That's a whole weird thing, that's a parliamentarian.

00:24:56.000 But we get into the issue, so what is the political angle?

00:24:59.000 I can't, look, the moral angle we can simply, maybe simplistically say, they're just bad people.

00:25:05.000 Which I think is fairly true at this point.

00:25:07.000 But the political angle is like, what are you doing?

00:25:09.000 So I keep coming back to this.

00:25:11.000 Why are we doing it this way? 0.99

00:25:12.000 You are going to get killed in the midterms. 1.00

00:25:15.000 You're going to get killed in the election. 0.99

00:25:16.000 If there are images of mass groups of Americans getting executed, God forbid, I'm not going to knock on wood like Joe Biden. 0.97

00:25:23.000 He did that in his interview with George Stephanopoulos.

00:25:25.000 Did you see that?

00:25:27.000 When Stephanopoulos was like, was this the best way to do it?

00:25:30.000 And he's like, look, you know, it's working out.

00:25:32.000 And Stephanopoulos said, there's a lot of pandemonium.

00:25:34.000 And the president, I'm not making this up, said, but look, nobody died.

00:25:38.000 And then he continued.

00:25:39.000 I was like, oh, God, you're actually knocking on wood.

00:25:41.000 Literally doing it!

00:25:43.000 You wanna know?

00:25:44.000 So politically, why are they doing this?

00:25:46.000 There's no upside to what they're doing.

00:25:48.000 There's no rhyme or reason unless chaos is the answer.

00:25:51.000 Because Biden is incompetent, he is well past his abilities to do this in his age, and the people around him are just sitting there waiting to scoop up the scraps.

00:26:04.000 It's almost like there's no one there to actually support administration. 0.53

00:26:07.000 That's why I say Trump got anti-elected.

00:26:10.000 Because this is not an administration.

00:26:12.000 They're not stepping up and saying, Biden, let me take care of this.

00:26:15.000 Let me try and fix some of this.

00:26:17.000 They're just sitting there.

00:26:17.000 I'd imagine Kamala Harris is sitting behind the curtain with a grin like, oh, it's almost my time.

00:26:23.000 This is exactly what I was hoping for.

00:26:25.000 You want to know, out of everybody, who's actually doing stuff for the people in Afghanistan?

00:26:30.000 It is a surprise the hell out of me.

00:26:32.000 Well, Glenn Beck, I hear.

00:26:33.000 Check out this story from The Blaze.

00:26:33.000 Glenn Beck.

00:26:34.000 Glenn Beck travels to the Middle East, shares updates from Afghanistan rescue efforts, and photos featuring scores of Afghan Christians boarding private planes.

00:26:44.000 Glenn Beck is an extremely wealthy man.

00:26:49.000 He has absolutely no reason.

00:26:52.000 He doesn't need to do this to prove anything to anybody.

00:26:54.000 He's not gonna bolster his... He's rich already and successful with a massive brand and a massive company.

00:27:01.000 And he's doing this because, in my opinion, he means it.

00:27:04.000 And he's doing something good because he can.

00:27:06.000 That, to me, is incredible.

00:27:08.000 Some other people, there's a lot of organizations that are fighting for this as well, that are trying to get people out.

00:27:13.000 We saw that one individual, I think his name was Matt Zeller, was that his name?

00:27:16.000 Yeah, Matt Zeller, yeah.

00:27:17.000 He appeared on MSNBC talking about how they've been warning the Biden administration for years.

00:27:20.000 He's a former Afghanistan veteran, by the way.

00:27:21.000 That's right.

00:27:22.000 About our allies who need our help.

00:27:23.000 I could not imagine, you know, being somebody who served over there, who met a lot of good people, who risked their necks to help you, Secure the city, you know, stop terror attacks, and then when you leave, our government says, oh, that guy you knew and worked with for a few years?

00:27:43.000 Your buddy?

00:27:43.000 We're gonna leave him to die.

00:27:45.000 But not to rehash all that, we got this story about Glenn Beck.

00:27:48.000 This is really incredible.

00:27:49.000 The Blaze reports, and The Blaze is Glenn Beck's outlet.

00:27:52.000 Conservative firebrand Glenn Beck and the Nazarene Fund's incredible efforts in rescuing Afghan Christian refugees are paying off, and Beck and the Nazarene Fund together have been able to free scores and scores of people from war-torn Afghanistan.

00:28:06.000 Absolutely amazing.

00:28:07.000 At the time of this reporting, the Nazarene Fund has raised more than $30 million to aid in the rescue of Afghan refugees.

00:28:13.000 In an early Wednesday morning Instagram update, Beck wrote, I cannot specify for international relations and security reasons exactly where I am today, but I am in the Middle East at the home base of operations for the Nazarene Fund.

00:28:25.000 I will try to join radio podcast right at the top of 9am on The Blaze.

00:28:29.000 So I'm not sure he's actually in Afghanistan himself.

00:28:33.000 He may be at the Ingestion Center, which could be only a few hundred miles away, just over a border or something.

00:28:39.000 Maybe Uzbekistan.

00:28:40.000 He hasn't said where.

00:28:41.000 But regardless, for him to go and do this, I think is absolutely incredible.

00:28:45.000 And the people who are able to do it is absolutely amazing.

00:28:48.000 They say, late Tuesday night, Beck shared a video of himself in what appeared to be a plane.

00:28:52.000 And what you said just got a briefing a few minutes ago on what's been happening today and what's been going on overseas.

00:28:56.000 We are still moving people at this point.

00:28:58.000 It's like you're a Christian, you're a female judge. 1.00

00:29:00.000 I don't care.

00:29:01.000 Get on the plane from Afghanistan.

00:29:02.000 It is horrible, horrible to hear what we are now.

00:29:05.000 We are now cutting our time short 72 hours.

00:29:08.000 Why is the US now making a bad situation much, much worse by having them cut our deadline?

00:29:13.000 Why am I sitting here praising Glenn Beck for flying in at his own dime to rescue people?

00:29:20.000 I don't get it.

00:29:21.000 I really, really don't get it.

00:29:22.000 Why is he doing the job at the State Department and the Department of Defense?

00:29:26.000 Why did they abandon their helicopters?

00:29:28.000 Why did the U.S.

00:29:29.000 abandon air equipment?

00:29:31.000 It seems like it was intentional, man.

00:29:31.000 I know.

00:29:33.000 I can't.

00:29:35.000 Look, look.

00:29:36.000 I always try to give the benefit of the doubt.

00:29:38.000 I always say I want to make the least amount of assumptions.

00:29:40.000 But how could it possibly be that they're, for one, screwing up the... They didn't evacuate Americans or allies.

00:29:46.000 They abandoned an air force base in the dead of night and didn't tell the Afghan security forces.

00:29:50.000 How is that an accident?

00:29:52.000 I don't know.

00:29:52.000 Again, I was saying, I don't want to jump on that.

00:29:54.000 I don't want to do the resistance thing, jump on impeachment every chance I get.

00:29:57.000 I know, I know, I know.

00:29:58.000 There have to be hearings on this.

00:29:59.000 I need to know.

00:30:00.000 We all need to know what happened.

00:30:01.000 And I just want to clarify real quick when I was saying Glenn Beck's doing the job of the State Department and the Department of Defense.

00:30:07.000 Actual soldiers, actual Marines, actual State Department officials and CIA have been doing everything they can.

00:30:12.000 I'm talking about leadership is what I'm dumping on right now.

00:30:15.000 I don't want to, I'm not speaking ill of the rank and file who are actually out there risking their lives clearly as we saw today.

00:30:22.000 You know what has always bothered me?

00:30:24.000 I remember during the Bush era, when I was like a teenager, we were always complaining about war.

00:30:30.000 Didn't understand what the point of being in these countries was, but we always agreed on one thing.

00:30:35.000 Not everybody.

00:30:36.000 We don't blame the troops.

00:30:38.000 No, we respect them because they're the ones who stood up and said, you know, we're here to serve the country in good faith.

00:30:43.000 We were angry with the establishment machine, the neocons, the big military-industrial complex, sending our brothers and sisters, men and women in uniform, our children into harm's way, and for what?

00:30:56.000 And so right now, it is the worst of the worst example of this.

00:31:01.000 13 U.S.

00:31:01.000 servicemen and women are dead because, for one, the nation building, and two, when they were exiting the country, they just did not care.

00:31:12.000 Or I'll tell you this, you know what?

00:31:15.000 The people who voted for Joe Biden, you chose this.

00:31:19.000 You chose to have an emperor with no clothes.

00:31:23.000 I'm gonna shout it out to Sam Harris.

00:31:26.000 You guys probably know Sam Harris.

00:31:27.000 He is a very prominent podcaster.

00:31:30.000 And of course, he was always very anti-Trump.

00:31:34.000 During the election, he was always ragging on Trump, very much so.

00:31:37.000 He quote-tweeted himself.

00:31:39.000 In an old tweet, he said, feeling overwhelming gratitude for the adults in the room on January 20th.

00:31:46.000 Today, he quoted that and said, publicly eating these words syllable by syllable.

00:31:50.000 Good.

00:31:51.000 How could he not have seen that?

00:31:54.000 Sam Harris, man.

00:31:55.000 To that point, you say Biden voters voted for this.

00:31:59.000 The thing that anyone could have seen this coming, Biden has been in Congress since 1973.

00:32:06.000 He has a track record.

00:32:07.000 He's known.

00:32:08.000 This is like when Donald Trump became president and people, especially the people like the liberals who boosted him

00:32:13.000 over Marco Rubio during the primaries, are like, oh my God, how could he be like this?

00:32:16.000 It's Donald Trump.

00:32:17.000 He has been like this since he's been in the public eye.

00:32:19.000 None of this is new.

00:32:20.000 This is who he has always been.

00:32:22.000 This is his whole persona.

00:32:24.000 Biden is a known entity.

00:32:26.000 If you did not know that he is one of the worst people on foreign policy, who's been wrong about every major foreign policy issue since the 1970s.

00:32:36.000 That's on you.

00:32:36.000 It was on you to do your research, to listen, but to your point about being unelected, Trumping anti-elected.

00:32:45.000 That's the thing.

00:32:46.000 Actually, I can't remember, it was a guest on your own show who was talking about this, but one of the things that the press did, and a quick sidebar, I will say one thing that's really impressed me, as much as anything about Afghanistan has impressed me, the press coverage has actually been really good.

00:32:58.000 It's been thorough, it's been damning, it's been Completely just straightforward.

00:33:02.000 They love war.

00:33:03.000 You know what I mean?

00:33:04.000 So the one time you're getting an honest approach is when Biden screws up the war they want.

00:33:08.000 I don't know if Clarissa Ward at CNN loves war. 0.90

00:33:11.000 No, no, no.

00:33:11.000 It's just the editors at CNN.

00:33:13.000 They choose what's going to get them money, what's going to get attention.

00:33:16.000 And so right now, this is ratings.

00:33:19.000 We heard with the Veritas leaks.

00:33:21.000 We know what CNN's all about.

00:33:22.000 But I agree.

00:33:23.000 I do.

00:33:23.000 To the point, I cannot remember his name.

00:33:25.000 He was a guest on your show.

00:33:26.000 He was talking about one of the things the media and the Democrats did is they terrified people every single day.

00:33:32.000 Everything Trump did was new.

00:33:34.000 It was unprecedented.

00:33:35.000 We've never seen anything like this before.

00:33:37.000 This is the worst thing.

00:33:38.000 Every single day, even normal stuff like dumping fish food in a koi pond in Japan.

00:33:43.000 And it was edited.

00:33:43.000 It was a fake video.

00:33:44.000 It was a fake video.

00:33:45.000 I know.

00:33:45.000 This is one of those moments you write about it.

00:33:47.000 I'm like, what am I writing about?

00:33:49.000 Because they made, oh my god, you know what happened in Japan? 1.00

00:33:52.000 Every single day, they terrified people into voting for anything that was Orange Man.

00:33:58.000 I like to use the plumber analogy, but I think at this point we should use the mechanic analogy.

00:34:03.000 I'd like you to imagine that your car breaks down, and you have two mechanics before you, and one guy is this tall, loud-mouthed orange guy going, it's a disgusting horse car, it's nasty, I hate it, but I'll fix it, I'll make it run, your car will be great.

00:34:17.000 And you're like, ugh.

00:34:18.000 Jeez, and then you look over there's another guy and he's asleep and when you're like yo, are you gonna fix my car?

00:34:22.000 He goes turn it on a shop at a pressure and you're like I'm gonna go with that guy who just said something random some random gibberish sentence I don't even know what he said and I'm gonna trust it and then you get in your car You're driving on the street and then you're coming to a red light and you press the brake down nothing happens and you're like what's happening?

00:34:36.000 I'm so surprised that I chose the guy who couldn't even speak and now my car crashes But that's the thing.

00:34:42.000 It's not even who he was in 2020.

00:34:44.000 There's 40 years of history to look at.

00:34:47.000 I know so many people who voted for him over Trump because they said, I voted for character, competence, and decency.

00:34:53.000 Biden is neither of those, and he's shown that repeatedly.

00:34:56.000 I would say, too, to the issue of people being terrified every single day because everything was unprecedented.

00:35:01.000 The irony of that now is the United States gearing up to abandon U.S.

00:35:05.000 citizens and Taliban-run country.

00:35:07.000 That actually is as terrifying as all the BS, most of the BS, they said about Donald Trump for all years he was president.

00:35:13.000 So we come to this area now and it's like, where are we supposed to go?

00:35:16.000 So you say Biden, oh yeah, the guy who's clearly not who he was in 2012.

00:35:20.000 That's what I can say about him.

00:35:21.000 I covered him in 2012.

00:35:23.000 I covered him in 2020.

00:35:24.000 And I can tell you right now, Biden is not the man he was in 2012 when he filleted Paul Ryan during the vice presidential debate.

00:35:30.000 But even beyond that, one of the greatest tricks in American politics is that Joe Biden rebranded as his kindly old ice cream eating uncle.

00:35:39.000 He's been one of the meanest knife fighters in the Senate.

00:35:42.000 He was famous for it.

00:35:43.000 And for some reason, people who've been covering Congress and the United States and U.S.

00:35:47.000 politics for much longer than I ever have, just went along with it.

00:35:50.000 Old Grandpa Joe loves his grandpa in his ponds.

00:35:53.000 And I was like, what?

00:35:55.000 We all know who he is.

00:35:56.000 We've seen this over and over again.

00:35:58.000 He is a ruthless, Cunning. 0.99

00:36:00.000 Self-serving. 0.99

00:36:01.000 Money-grubbing.

00:36:02.000 Plagiarist.

00:36:03.000 He's a plagiarist?

00:36:05.000 Oh yeah.

00:36:05.000 Over and over again.

00:36:06.000 He made up a story about his own wife and daughter dying.

00:36:10.000 Who does that? 0.98

00:36:11.000 Sociopath.

00:36:13.000 He claimed the man was a at fault and drunk.

00:36:16.000 None of that was true. 0.99

00:36:17.000 He's a sociopath. 1.00

00:36:18.000 He's a bad person. 0.97

00:36:19.000 And I know people in 2020, after 40 years, 40 years of facts and details in history, going, I voted for character.

00:36:26.000 Where?

00:36:27.000 What character?

00:36:29.000 Trump was a character.

00:36:31.000 Man has too much character.

00:36:32.000 Yeah, that's right.

00:36:33.000 And you know, all the things they would say about Trump, it's like, the big problem is, listen man, to all the Trump haters, I'm like, I hear you on a lot of it, but bro, when you come to me, like, I would sit down with someone and like, why do you dislike Trump?

00:36:46.000 Seven out of the 10 things they said were fake news.

00:36:49.000 Did you see what happened with Shinzo Abe when he's like just dumping he's making us look bad I'm like oh you mean when he did what Shinzo did first?

00:36:57.000 Like Shinzo dumped the food in so Trump said okay and then followed suit?

00:37:00.000 You're blaming him for that?

00:37:01.000 Well he's meeting with with with dictators and I'm like negotiating peace deals with dictators is a bad thing now?

00:37:07.000 Obama did it.

00:37:08.000 The very fine people hoax.

00:37:09.000 Joe Biden used to launch his campaign.

00:37:11.000 I didn't care for.

00:37:12.000 I'm not saying that's necessarily good, but the idea is that this is unprecedented.

00:37:15.000 We've never seen this before in their history.

00:37:17.000 Like, we always negotiate first.

00:37:19.000 I mean, you can always find people who betray your allies.

00:37:21.000 The worst case scenario, you know, the very fine people hoax Joe Biden used to launch

00:37:25.000 his campaign.

00:37:26.000 Yeah.

00:37:27.000 A lie.

00:37:28.000 I did for 2017.

00:37:30.000 I did a database of all the bogus and sloppy and just flat out false reporting of the Trump

00:37:35.000 administration.

00:37:37.000 And it ended up being about a 13 page document if you print it out.

00:37:40.000 And I stopped after 2017 because it was too much work.

00:37:43.000 There's so much nonsense to the point and even now people are continuing some of it.

00:37:48.000 Drawing a blank on his name, he's a presidential historian who works for NBC, is still railing against Melania Trump's renovation of the Rose Garden.

00:37:55.000 Talking about how she made into some weird sort of fascist icon and she's just returning to the 1962 Kennedy blueprint.

00:38:01.000 And he's like, she's destroyed with Jacqueline Kennedy.

00:38:04.000 Remember when CNN reported that Trump's salt and pepper shaker was larger than everyone else's?

00:38:09.000 How are these stories?

00:38:10.000 And it wasn't even necessarily Trump's pepper shaker.

00:38:12.000 It was like in front of him to the right was like two larger square shakers and then to 1.00

00:38:17.000 his left was like smaller ones and they're like, look, it's bigger.

00:38:19.000 It's like, I'm sure everyone's you.

00:38:21.000 Trump doesn't have like his own.

00:38:22.000 He pulls out of his coat.

00:38:23.000 He's like, it's mine.

00:38:24.000 I remember once looking up and CNN had a chyron and it said Trump gets two scoops of ice cream.

00:38:30.000 And I was like, go turn cartoons on and literally anything else.

00:38:33.000 What am I watching?

00:38:34.000 To be fair, though, that woman does these... Her whole gag is that she does goofy, funny reporting stories. 1.00

00:38:41.000 But the problem is that all of CNN started to look like all of her... No, no, no, no, no. 0.63

00:38:45.000 All of CNN picked up the story.

00:38:47.000 And then I ended up seeing, I don't know which show it was, but they were like, two scoops of ice cream.

00:38:51.000 And then they ran the story.

00:38:53.000 I'm willing to bet Jeff Zucker was like, hey, that actually plays well.

00:38:56.000 Can you re-roll it, like in the next show?

00:38:58.000 You know what, Jeff Zucker, is he out at CNN?

00:39:01.000 He's still there, right?

00:39:02.000 He's still there.

00:39:02.000 Do you know, so for those that aren't familiar, he's the president, I believe, right?

00:39:05.000 President of CNN?

00:39:06.000 Yes.

00:39:07.000 Oh, I'm getting hazy.

00:39:08.000 It's chief something or other of a... What was his job before CNN?

00:39:11.000 NBC.

00:39:12.000 And what did he produce at NBC?

00:39:13.000 The Apprentice.

00:39:15.000 Which is a Donald Trump reality TV show.

00:39:19.000 I've written about this.

00:39:20.000 Jeff Zucker's stewardship of CNN has turned CNN.

00:39:23.000 CNN has WWE-ified the news.

00:39:26.000 It's all about heels and faces. 0.99

00:39:28.000 You got the good guys and the bad guys and tonight Don Lemon's gonna take on parents who love their children and don't want them to be masked.

00:39:34.000 Like last night he was like, just because you have kids doesn't mean you should have them.

00:39:37.000 Yeah, I said it.

00:39:38.000 Like, this isn't new!

00:39:39.000 What?

00:39:39.000 Just because you have kids doesn't mean you should have.

00:39:40.000 Yeah, I'm not making this up, by the way.

00:39:42.000 He was railing against- Like, the state should take your kids from you?

00:39:43.000 He was railing against parents who are anti-having their kids masked for eight hours a day in school, and his big- the big line that people at Mediaite wrote about and stuff was, just because you have kids doesn't mean you should.

00:39:54.000 Period.

00:39:54.000 Yeah, I said it.

00:39:55.000 Wow.

00:39:56.000 This isn't even analysis.

00:39:58.000 I can't even say the word.

00:40:00.000 What is this?

00:40:02.000 WWE-ifying.

00:40:04.000 That's not fair, though, to WWE.

00:40:06.000 Because WWE is over-the-top fun. 0.65

00:40:09.000 Also, as I've written before, WWE also has the courage to admit what it is and doesn't pretend to be anything else.

00:40:15.000 But when I watched this clip recently, I don't know when it's from, I don't watch it, but it was John Cena's birthday or something.

00:40:22.000 And he, do you know this clip?

00:40:23.000 He like walks out and everyone's like pointing and he's like, he looks over and there's a present and he opens it and it's a folding chair.

00:40:28.000 Like it's funny.

00:40:30.000 It's funny.

00:40:31.000 It's also fake.

00:40:33.000 But that's the thing.

00:40:33.000 Right.

00:40:34.000 WWE is fake.

00:40:36.000 Hold on.

00:40:37.000 I don't, I don't like the word fake when talking about wrestling because it's entertainment.

00:40:40.000 It's fiction.

00:40:41.000 I'll put it that way.

00:40:42.000 It's fiction.

00:40:42.000 CNN is not supposed to be fiction.

00:40:44.000 Right, but that's the thing.

00:40:44.000 They have the same approach, which is heels and faces.

00:40:47.000 And since Donald Trump left office, their ratings have tanked.

00:40:50.000 It's been across the board.

00:40:51.000 People don't know what to talk about.

00:40:52.000 That's why you find the next thing.

00:40:54.000 They've been focusing on Tucker Carlson and Fox News.

00:40:57.000 Fox News has to be the new Trump because Trump's out of office.

00:40:59.000 Well, they've tried.

00:41:00.000 I love it.

00:41:01.000 Brian Stelter is like...

00:41:03.000 He keeps trying to pin it on someone else.

00:41:05.000 Is Tucker Carlson the new Trump?

00:41:07.000 And then who else did he accuse?

00:41:10.000 They went after Marjorie Taylor Greene.

00:41:11.000 It didn't stick.

00:41:12.000 They went for Tucker Carlson.

00:41:13.000 Yeah, they find a new person it seems like every week.

00:41:13.000 It doesn't stick.

00:41:15.000 They try to accuse someone else of being the new Trump because they are desperate to find a Trump.

00:41:20.000 Right.

00:41:20.000 There's only one Stone Cold Steve Austin, though.

00:41:22.000 I'm sorry.

00:41:23.000 You just can't replace him.

00:41:24.000 And you see this in the news.

00:41:26.000 You see this in MSNBC. 0.96

00:41:28.000 Honestly, If you told me in 2016 that MSNBC would be the slightly more reputable network than CNN during the Trump era, I would have said you're crazy.

00:41:37.000 But I have to say it, MSNBC actually was more reputable for all those years.

00:41:42.000 But all this kind of seems almost beside the point.

00:41:44.000 But this goes to, we have the president who we have now because people were told they need to be terrified of the other guy because the stuff he did was dangerous and going to get everyone killed.

00:41:53.000 And the irony now is we're looking at a situation where a lot of people God forbid, you know, just keep praying that doesn't happen in Afghanistan. 0.99

00:42:02.000 And this is what we're at.

00:42:03.000 And I find myself, look, I don't blame Biden voters.

00:42:07.000 There is a part of me, though, that is largely angry because Biden is such a known entity.

00:42:11.000 If you did not know this is who he is, that's on you.

00:42:14.000 You had 40 years of material to look over.

00:42:17.000 There's a few ways I approach this.

00:42:19.000 So for one, you know, I talked about the other day that when it comes to fascist policies, I blame those who uphold them.

00:42:25.000 So with like the New York City mandates, who's making the mandate and who's enforcing it?

00:42:30.000 It's the mom-and-pop shops that are enforcing it.

00:42:32.000 Because the cops can't go to every single restaurant.

00:42:34.000 No, it's only because the citizens of New York are willing to do it.

00:42:37.000 Who's the one who's confiscating people's weapons and their right to keep and bear arms?

00:42:40.000 It's the police who are doing it.

00:42:42.000 However, With the American voter, I don't necessarily blame every person who voted for Biden.

00:42:50.000 Now, it's true that if you voted for Biden, you voted for this.

00:42:54.000 But the media, who is manipulating and lying and ripping off the American people, deserve a massive amount of the blame for this.

00:43:02.000 At the end of the day, I think it's the responsibility of the individual to be informed.

00:43:05.000 And if you're just watching CNN and believing it without doing any fact-checking, yeah, you bear responsibility.

00:43:09.000 But how do you deal with CNN, MSNBC, and their outright lies over and over again?

00:43:16.000 Look, man, never been a big fan of Fox News, not a big fan of a lot of their hosts, but their news, like Brett Baier, is great.

00:43:23.000 I like Chris Wallace.

00:43:24.000 Yeah, what was that? New Day or no, that's CNN. That's CNN.

00:43:28.000 That's America's newsroom. Yeah, they do a great job. I like Chris Wallace

00:43:31.000 I know a lot of people don't care for Chris Wallace on the right after the last election

00:43:34.000 I like Chris Wallace. I think he's straight. He's straight with the news

00:43:36.000 And cnn is anything but it's hard to find, you know, I I I have this thing on my Instagram from a couple years ago.

00:43:43.000 I think I called it the CNN challenge.

00:43:46.000 And what you do is you turn on Fox News and then see what they're reporting and then switch to CNN and see if they're reporting on substantive world news.

00:44:00.000 And so the challenge is, when you put on CNN, or you put on Fox News, what would I get?

00:44:04.000 So I'm like, oh, there's protests in Iran.

00:44:07.000 A week later, it's a hurricane, a large storm is coming to the U.S.

00:44:10.000 You know, be prepared, get supplies.

00:44:13.000 And I'm like, okay, let's see what's on CNN.

00:44:14.000 And what was it?

00:44:15.000 A panel talking about Trump.

00:44:17.000 Every.

00:44:18.000 Time.

00:44:18.000 Single.

00:44:19.000 And Project Veritas had that expose where you had a guy who said, we don't report anymore.

00:44:24.000 CNN used to go out and go on the ground.

00:44:26.000 Now it's like we all just sit around because they're doing Trump panels all day.

00:44:30.000 I should say I should clarify that a lot of my criticism is for CNN's primetime U.S.

00:44:35.000 news reporting.

00:44:36.000 There are a lot of people on the digital side who do a lot of great reporting.

00:44:39.000 Especially international porn and CNN International itself is almost like its own entity. Yeah, completely devoid of

00:44:44.000 the Zuckers over oversight But you turn on like anything between noon to 10 p.m

00:44:49.000 And it's just it's again. It's like watching professional wrestling, but with suits and ties

00:44:54.000 You might as well just be watching like a video of chickens clucking. It's like you're gonna be an insult to chickens

00:44:59.000 At least they're doing good, honest work.

00:45:01.000 That's true.

00:45:02.000 They're feeding families.

00:45:04.000 That's true.

00:45:04.000 But I just mean to say that you're not going to get any information.

00:45:07.000 In fact, I'm sorry.

00:45:07.000 No.

00:45:08.000 That's wrong.

00:45:08.000 I'm sorry.

00:45:09.000 Because if you watch chickens clucking, you'll understand chicken clucks after a certain amount of time.

00:45:13.000 You'll be like, wow, the rooster did that call.

00:45:15.000 That must mean danger. 1.00

00:45:16.000 You turn on CNN, you get dumber. 1.00

00:45:18.000 You get less informed. 1.00

00:45:19.000 You get misinformed.

00:45:21.000 And then they blame everyone else for their problems.

00:45:24.000 Now you end up with people who live in this matrix dimension.

00:45:29.000 The problem, look, I don't mind a press that's opinionated.

00:45:32.000 I've long time said the idea of an impartial press is kind of a BS idea.

00:45:36.000 Really sort of popularized in like the early 19th century.

00:45:40.000 The idea that, you know, use minimal words and all that was a lot of it's about saving ink and paper.

00:45:45.000 I don't mind if you have an opinion or a slant. 0.99

00:45:48.000 Just be honest with me.

00:45:49.000 And if you have a slant or an opinion, just be fair in your coverage.

00:45:55.000 Look, if we had a press being as tough and as uncompromising on Joe Biden, things might have gone differently.

00:46:01.000 I'm not saying he would have lost.

00:46:02.000 No, we had collusion between Big Tech and the media to shut down news stories that made Hunter Biden and Joe Biden look bad.

00:46:09.000 And not just that, but you also had the president would disappear for days on end in his basement

00:46:13.000 and people would be like, oh well, he's probably having some ice cream.

00:46:15.000 Now what did Donald Trump say today?

00:46:17.000 And you're like, well, hold on.

00:46:18.000 As it turns out, apparently having a president whose entire campaign strategy was to hide

00:46:22.000 in his basement wasn't great because then they were seeing it now in real time.

00:46:25.000 That's why I say Trump was anti-elected.

00:46:27.000 People when they, when people hit that Biden button or box, they weren't saying Biden,

00:46:32.000 they were saying no Trump.

00:46:33.000 That's all they were saying.

00:46:34.000 Spite vote is such a powerful thing.

00:46:35.000 Look, President, former President Barack Obama was a very exciting, very likable, very charismatic candidate in his own right.

00:46:44.000 But also, a spite vote in 2008 was a direct answer to George W., who was so unpopular at the time.

00:46:50.000 People weren't necessarily voting against John McCain.

00:46:52.000 They were voting against George W. Bush, who they were very unhappy with.

00:46:55.000 And it helped that the Democratic candidate was extremely select and extremely easy to want to vote for.

00:47:00.000 Oh, I mean, I wasn't covering politics at the time, but even I just casually watching the news knew Obama was going to win.

00:47:06.000 You watch that guy and you're like, yeah, no, he's going to be the next president.

00:47:09.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

00:47:10.000 And then 2012, Mitt Romney.

00:47:14.000 Mitt Romney is such a difficult person because he's such, I think, he's a decent man, a good man, and a seasoned and successful executive, but he always carried himself like he was embarrassed to be a Republican.

00:47:27.000 Like he was always kind of apologizing.

00:47:28.000 He still is!

00:47:29.000 Why?

00:47:30.000 Just own it.

00:47:31.000 I mean, this is funny, because Donald Trump did, to the nth degree, what I was screaming during 2012, which was like, own it.

00:47:36.000 You're rich.

00:47:37.000 You're successful.

00:47:38.000 And then Donald Trump was like, OK, OK.

00:47:38.000 Own it.

00:47:40.000 Don't own it so hard.

00:47:41.000 Because Mitt Romney cares more about the opinion of The New York Times than he does about the American people.

00:47:45.000 There's so many Republicans like them.

00:47:47.000 They'll never like you.

00:47:48.000 Why do you do this?

00:47:50.000 They will never appreciate you.

00:47:52.000 You're always going to be that weird kid on the playground that amuses them.

00:47:56.000 But you're never going to be in the click.

00:47:57.000 They will be like, hey, bite this worm in half.

00:48:00.000 Eat this pine cone! 0.97

00:48:01.000 It's so gross! 0.81

00:48:02.000 No, get out of here. 1.00

00:48:03.000 Get out of here, weirdo.

00:48:04.000 You see this with cable news and even newspapers.

00:48:08.000 The hallowed former GOP strategist who hasn't been a Republican or done anything conservative for the last 30 years, but they're trotted out to say something bad about Republicans.

00:48:17.000 Because, you know, blue on red, that's expected.

00:48:20.000 But red on red violence?

00:48:21.000 Ooh, dramatic.

00:48:22.000 Bring out Nicole Wallace or Steve Schmidt.

00:48:22.000 This is great.

00:48:25.000 Oh, Adam Kinzinger, a Republican, said... Come on, does anybody really... What they're doing with Bill Kristol and these neocons who are now all of a sudden cheerleaders of the Democratic Party... Jennifer Rubin is one of the best, right?

00:48:25.000 Steve Schmidt!

00:48:39.000 She starts cheerle- she's the kind of conservative, quote unquote, who comes out and says like,

00:48:45.000 I'm a principled conservative and Trump is bad and the Democrats cheer for it.

00:48:48.000 And then when Trump, when it comes to like Stacey Abrams, she's cheering for Stacey Abrams.

00:48:54.000 Then you get the Lincoln Project.

00:48:55.000 They're like, we got to restore the party of Lincoln.

00:48:57.000 So we're anti-Trump.

00:48:58.000 Then Trump, you know, gets voted out and they go, well, Trumpism is still the Republican

00:49:02.000 party so we're with the Democrats, I guess.

00:49:04.000 Yeah, now you have them going on being like, well, we're gonna have to save Gavin Newsom in California.

00:49:08.000 I'm like, what part of this is conservative?

00:49:10.000 Steve Schmidt is marched out to this day on MSNBC regularly in the Chiron, it says, former GOP strategist, and he comes out and he's like, the Republican Party is now the party of fascism, blah, blah, blah.

00:49:21.000 Former GOP strategist, he hasn't done anything successful since Arnold Schwarzenegger was re-elected in 2006.

00:49:27.000 He's dining out on that credit for almost as long as we've been in Afghanistan.

00:49:32.000 And yet they just pump him out because this is, this is what they want.

00:49:35.000 These are the Republicans that who are Republicans.

00:49:39.000 I would not put Mitt Romney in the same category with Steve Schmidt.

00:49:41.000 But there's that weird strain of, like, embarrassed.

00:49:44.000 Like, oh, I know, my rank and file are loud and they wear red hats.

00:49:47.000 I'm so sorry.

00:49:48.000 People say RINO, Republican In Name Only.

00:49:50.000 Oh, I remember that one.

00:49:52.000 Yeah, absolutely, all the time.

00:49:52.000 Do they still say that?

00:49:54.000 But you know who the real RINOs are? 1.00

00:49:55.000 It's like Thomas Massey and Rand Paul.

00:49:57.000 Because they're the odd people out.

00:49:59.000 The entirety of the Republican Party's thrown doing nothing.

00:50:02.000 And then you get a small handful of people who actually stand up.

00:50:04.000 And if I'm gonna look at the majority of the Republican Party as, you know, on their best day, a speed bump for Democrats, and then I look at, you know, Marjorie Taylor Greene, Lauren Boebert, Rand Paul, Thomas Massey, who actually stand up for stuff, and Hawley, and a few others.

00:50:21.000 I'm like, they're not the same as the Republicans.

00:50:25.000 Arizona Democratic Senator Kristen Sinema is more reliable for what I want, and she's the Democrat. 1.00

00:50:31.000 Oh, and Joe Manchin!

00:50:32.000 I'm like, they're actually more aligned with me than a lot of these other supposed celebrity Republicans who get trotted out on cable news to go, Trump is bad.

00:50:40.000 Tucker called Lindsey Graham a leftist. 0.95

00:50:43.000 Oh, Lindsey Graham. 0.52

00:50:45.000 I mean, I don't think I have as harsh a criticism.

00:50:49.000 When you were saying Rand Paul was a rhino, I was like, I think he would not want to be called Republican.

00:50:53.000 I think he still prefers Libertarian, but... He's in the Republican Party, so it's... Right.

00:50:56.000 I mean, he's not... He's not his father.

00:50:58.000 I'll just leave it at that.

00:50:59.000 The Republican Party is the group of weirdos in high school who wish they were in with the popular kids.

00:51:07.000 And the Democrats are... Look, Obama is a celebrity, you know?

00:51:10.000 He's a rock star.

00:51:11.000 They've got the media.

00:51:12.000 They love it.

00:51:14.000 The Republicans are suit-wearing, stodgy, and unhip, and they're not with it.

00:51:18.000 So you get all these Republicans who are desperate to make the New York Times happy because they want to be cool, but they'll never be cool.

00:51:24.000 Nobody likes being hated, but it just kind of blows my mind that a lot of these Republicans forget you've got like 50% of the country, if not more, behind you.

00:51:32.000 You don't have to win over that other half that despises you.

00:51:34.000 Not for long.

00:51:36.000 Well, we'll see about that.

00:51:38.000 I always come back to this, the idea that it's always going to slip away and we just can't win and all that stuff.

00:51:44.000 Maybe it's too simplistic, but if you can't sell and package liberty to voters, then maybe you're just a bad salesman.

00:51:49.000 Maybe the problem is you.

00:51:50.000 We need better we.

00:51:51.000 I'm a conservative.

00:51:52.000 I'm not a Republican.

00:51:53.000 I haven't been a registered Republican for a long time.

00:51:56.000 Conservatives need better spokespeople.

00:51:59.000 Spokesmen and women, if we want to be exact about it.

00:52:02.000 And the idea that, no, it's just not going to work, we can't win, we can't sell liberty.

00:52:06.000 Why can't we sell liberty?

00:52:07.000 They can certainly sell big government. 0.92

00:52:09.000 How can we not package something that's far more attractive?

00:52:12.000 Let me pull up these polls and we'll break this down.

00:52:14.000 So we got this from Civics.

00:52:15.000 Democratic Party favorable rating.

00:52:17.000 53% unfavorable, 41% favorable for the Democratic Party.

00:52:24.000 Republican Party.

00:52:25.000 What do you think it's going to be?

00:52:26.000 Probably worse.

00:52:27.000 The Republican Party is 62% unfavorable and 26% favorable.

00:52:32.000 And you know why that is?

00:52:33.000 Let's go back to the Democrats real quick.

00:52:35.000 Okay.

00:52:35.000 How do Democratic voters feel about the Democratic Party?

00:52:39.000 86% favorable, 7% unfavorable.

00:52:41.000 How do Republicans feel about the Democratic Party?

00:52:45.000 95% unfavorable.

00:52:46.000 How about independent voters?

00:52:48.000 Independent voters say 63% unfavorable, 26% favorable.

00:52:52.000 Okay, so the Democrats overwhelmingly like the Democratic Party.

00:52:56.000 Republicans overwhelmingly dislike it.

00:52:58.000 And independent voters lean towards not liking it.

00:53:01.000 Let's take a look at Republican voters and how they feel about the Republican Party.

00:53:08.000 65% favorable.

00:53:10.000 A 20% drop from Democrats in their own party.

00:53:13.000 Republican voters don't like their own party.

00:53:16.000 It's a 30% drop, right?

00:53:18.000 No, no, no.

00:53:18.000 95% to 65%?

00:53:19.000 Democrats were 85% favorable.

00:53:21.000 Look, I'll give Democrats this.

00:53:23.000 They stick together.

00:53:24.000 They do.

00:53:25.000 They have great, what's the word I'm looking for, discipline when it comes to sticking together.

00:53:29.000 That's part of the reason why people like Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez stick out, because they don't march the party line, which is different. 1.00

00:53:36.000 But the fact that Republicans don't like their own party, I think that might be contributed to the fact that the Republican Party has been feckless for years, that it seems embarrassed of itself.

00:53:44.000 But I also suspect a large part of it might have to do with the fact that conservative voters tend to be highly individualistic and they're not beholden to a tribe or that sort of loyalty might see from the team that believes in sort of like the collective, like the Borg floating through space.

00:54:00.000 Not to say Democrats are the Borg.

00:54:02.000 I love Democrats.

00:54:02.000 They are.

00:54:03.000 Democrats are.

00:54:05.000 God bless them.

00:54:06.000 What's the old Reagan quote?

00:54:07.000 It's not that they're wrong.

00:54:08.000 It's just they know so much that isn't true.

00:54:10.000 But, you know, so I'm not surprised.

00:54:13.000 I think even in during good, well, yeah, even during good years, I think you would still find high unfavorability with Republicans, because I think part of being a conservative is not being a part of a tribe or beholden to it.

00:54:23.000 So if you got some qualms with it, you're going to say it.

00:54:26.000 And now I don't want to simplify it and be like, ah, Republican Party's fine.

00:54:28.000 Republicans are just like, no, Republican Party's clearly got, I think Kevin McCarthy's way in and over his head.

00:54:33.000 Way, the worst man for the moment right now.

00:54:35.000 I think 97% of the Republican Party is just, it's like, it's dead air.

00:54:42.000 It's radio silence.

00:54:44.000 They don't do anything.

00:54:45.000 Look, a really great example.

00:54:47.000 Ilhan Omar does what I've referred to as crop-dusting anti-Semitism.

00:54:52.000 What do the Democrats do?

00:54:53.000 They circle the wagons.

00:54:54.000 And they say, we're not going to condemn her.

00:54:56.000 We'll condemn hate.

00:54:59.000 What do they do to Marjorie Taylor Greene? 1.00

00:55:00.000 They stripped her of her committee assignment.

00:55:02.000 Because she said stuff before she got elected! 1.00

00:55:04.000 The Republicans are sitting there as the losers and the bully Democrats are like, you want to be with the cool kids? 1.00

00:55:12.000 Well, then you got to go pick on that weirdo. 1.00

00:55:14.000 And they go, whatever you say, Democrats. 0.88

00:55:16.000 And then they start, look, are we cool yet?

00:55:18.000 We're insulting our own friends.

00:55:21.000 Yeah, no, like, you even get into the area of... I'm not even trying to litigate what she said, whether it was right or wrong, but the fact that Republicans didn't say, look, I don't agree with it, but don't you dare, because we'll come for your anti-Semites. 0.78

00:55:33.000 And that's the thing, too, with what Marjorie Greene-Taylor said, you can make a very clear argument that it was offensive, but the stuff that comes out of Ilhan Omar's mouth and Rashida Tlaib is straight up anti-Semitic.

00:55:45.000 I mean, straight up.

00:55:46.000 The idea that American Jews are pro-Israel because of the money.

00:55:50.000 I'm sorry.

00:55:50.000 What did you just say?

00:55:52.000 The dual loyalties.

00:55:54.000 The dual loyalties. 0.97

00:55:55.000 You can't trust those Jews, you know? 1.00

00:55:56.000 And then what the Democrats do, they go, okay, we'll pass a resolution saying all lives matter.

00:56:00.000 That's what they did!

00:56:03.000 I'm not making that up!

00:56:05.000 And then the Democrats were like, that did the trick.

00:56:05.000 That's what they did.

00:56:07.000 Anyway, I'm back to work.

00:56:08.000 No.

00:56:09.000 And that's why Trump won.

00:56:12.000 Because people finally saw a fighter who was going to be like, I'll fight for you.

00:56:16.000 Oh, look, I'll out myself on this.

00:56:18.000 I did not vote for him in either election.

00:56:20.000 I did not like Trump.

00:56:21.000 He's not my, he's not my ideal president.

00:56:24.000 I want John, I want John Adams for president is what I want.

00:56:27.000 Uh, yeah, but he's been, he's, he's dead, isn't he?

00:56:29.000 He died.

00:56:30.000 Yeah.

00:56:30.000 Oh God.

00:56:31.000 No, are you serious?

00:56:33.000 I don't think Trump, I hate, I hate to use the word.

00:56:36.000 I hate to use the word.

00:56:38.000 I hate to use the word because it's so overused by the press, and I was concerned trolling Republicans, but Trump did not have the temperament for the most important job in the world, not the country.

00:56:49.000 I did not like his opponents, so I certainly didn't vote for them either.

00:56:52.000 Did you vote for Joe Jorgensen?

00:56:55.000 I voted for who I always vote for when I do a write-in, it's Mickey Mouse.

00:56:59.000 I almost wrote myself.

00:57:02.000 Um, but my point that I'm trying to get at after, you know, telling everyone my dirty secret is that actually my dirty secret, oh god, my dirty secret in 2016 is I vote for Evan McMullin.

00:57:12.000 Who's that?

00:57:13.000 I'm so sorry everyone.

00:57:15.000 He had one job which was, don't embarrass me, and he couldn't even manage that.

00:57:20.000 Guy couldn't even manage a cup of coffee, the most embarrassing, it was just a protest vote.

00:57:24.000 I knew he wasn't gonna win.

00:57:25.000 I didn't particularly care for the guy.

00:57:27.000 I was trying to register my protest that neither one of these candidates Deserves my vote because I don't think either one of them deserves the office.

00:57:33.000 Now what I can say is the Trump presidency was way better than I thought it was going to be.

00:57:37.000 I think we, we being conservatives, benefited from the fact that he did surround himself with a lot of good people.

00:57:43.000 He was actually great for pro-life issues.

00:57:46.000 He was great on foreign policy.

00:57:47.000 The fact that you get Bahrain, the UAE, and Israel sitting together, signing a treaty.

00:57:52.000 That's amazing!

00:57:53.000 Moving the embassy.

00:57:54.000 This is great.

00:57:54.000 Presidents have just been doing lip service for years.

00:57:57.000 He actually did it.

00:57:58.000 I'm deeply impressed.

00:57:59.000 Getting prisoners back from North Korea.

00:58:00.000 I'm like, all right, credit where it's due.

00:58:03.000 The thing though, is that even having him, you know, I think I would prefer him right now to the thing that's already in office.

00:58:12.000 I can't lie.

00:58:13.000 I didn't vote for the guy, but I think I would prefer that because what's happening now, I don't think would have happened under Trump's watch.

00:58:19.000 I don't think so.

00:58:19.000 It wouldn't have happened under Kamala Harris either.

00:58:21.000 Biden's gone, man.

00:58:22.000 He's got like two days.

00:58:23.000 He can see like two days ahead.

00:58:26.000 He slurs his words.

00:58:27.000 He misspeaks words in his national addresses.

00:58:30.000 He trails off.

00:58:31.000 He's not a military guy ever.

00:58:33.000 He never was. 0.98

00:58:33.000 And now he's like a deranged or like a demented. 0.98

00:58:36.000 It seems like he's like, you know, edging towards dementia or if it's not. 0.57

00:58:40.000 And he's in he's in military command.

00:58:43.000 Is that is that the answer to our question?

00:58:45.000 The why?

00:58:46.000 Which is that an incompetent man is in charge and he's completely surrounded by yes men.

00:58:50.000 Not a single person.

00:58:52.000 Mark Milley wouldn't wouldn't take the risk because he doesn't want his career to get trashed a month before he retires.

00:58:56.000 It's as simple as that.

00:58:57.000 That's why what's happening is happening.

00:58:59.000 One of the symptoms of dementia is outbursts of rage, because people who are losing their mind get frustrated because they're desperately trying to hold on.

00:59:08.000 And so, like, imagine you're having a conversation, and in your mind you're thinking, like, I would like to talk about, you know, my dog Fido, and then you're talking and all of a sudden your mind goes blank, and you get angry now.

00:59:20.000 So you look at some of these things where Biden has snapped on reporters, Remember when he went to that guy and he was, he started yelling at him over and over again?

00:59:27.000 Yeah.

00:59:28.000 And he's done things like that a lot.

00:59:29.000 It's because he gets asked a question and he, and he's like, it's like you mentioned, you know, back in 2012, how he, you know, he tore up, uh, Paul Ryan.

00:59:38.000 And now imagine being that guy who's, who's winning, winning these elections for decades.

00:59:44.000 And now you're sitting, you're unable to speak at the podium.

00:59:46.000 You're going to get, you're going to get frustrated and angry.

00:59:48.000 I only think I would say maybe slight pushback on that as it goes back to my earlier statement about we have a track record.

00:59:54.000 Biden has been snapping on reporters for decades.

00:59:56.000 That's actually how he usually interacts with an uncomfortable or unfriendly question.

01:00:01.000 He's always been an expletive that I won't say on the air.

01:00:04.000 He has always been mean.

01:00:06.000 That's not new. 1.00

01:00:06.000 A big jerk. 1.00

01:00:07.000 This goes back. 1.00

01:00:08.000 He's a big meanie.

01:00:09.000 This goes back to what I was saying earlier, the idea that he was able to rebrand himself as this kindly old man and everyone went along with him.

01:00:14.000 Like, no, he he was famously mean.

01:00:17.000 Famously short with people, famously curt, rude.

01:00:21.000 Didn't Mitt Romney like strap a dog to his car or something like that?

01:00:28.000 Oh my gosh.

01:00:29.000 Yeah.

01:00:29.000 They went for, do we want to litigate this?

01:00:32.000 They went for a long car ride.

01:00:33.000 The dog had diarrhea.

01:00:34.000 So they put it in the dog carrier on top of the car.

01:00:36.000 And her name is Gail Collins at the New York times.

01:00:39.000 I want to say she wrote about 30 articles, about 30 different columns talking about that dog on the roof.

01:00:44.000 I mean, I mean, look, I've never owned a dog.

01:00:48.000 Where do you put a dog that has diarrhea for a car ride? 0.99

01:00:50.000 In the carrier?

01:00:52.000 Do you put it on the car or in the back?

01:00:53.000 Put it in the car.

01:00:55.000 What do you do with a baby?

01:00:55.000 It's a dog.

01:00:58.000 Baby doesn't have fur. 1.00

01:00:59.000 It was in a carrier.

01:01:01.000 It was in the carrier, but apparently putting the carrier on top of the car is very bad.

01:01:05.000 I guess?

01:01:06.000 Wouldn't that put a dog on the wall? 0.87

01:01:06.000 I guess. 0.87

01:01:07.000 I don't know, I just thought of that.

01:01:08.000 I thought it was a funny story.

01:01:09.000 Oh no, we can litigate all of this stuff.

01:01:12.000 So right now we've got this story from the Hill.

01:01:15.000 Hawley, Blackburn call for Biden to resign.

01:01:18.000 There's been other insinuations that he should be impeached if he doesn't resign.

01:01:22.000 But then what do we do?

01:01:23.000 Do we do President Kamala Harris?

01:01:25.000 Yeah, yeah, please.

01:01:26.000 Anything is better than this guy right now.

01:01:27.000 It's military.

01:01:28.000 He left thousands of people behind.

01:01:31.000 That's right.

01:01:32.000 And they said they didn't want a Blackhawk down moment.

01:01:35.000 They didn't want to send in... This is like the Iranian hostage thing, which was the biggest, it was 52 people, 52, and already 13 people have been killed.

01:01:42.000 Times a hundred.

01:01:44.000 Like people didn't die.

01:01:46.000 No one died in that scandal, that hostage scandal that I know of.

01:01:49.000 They were rescued.

01:01:50.000 These people died already.

01:01:52.000 I saw Jimmy Dore, I'm evoking Jimmy, I love you.

01:01:55.000 These are US troops who were there, knowing the risks, Or they were affiliated with the troops.

01:02:01.000 They weren't all troops, right?

01:02:02.000 They were military.

01:02:02.000 No, there were 13 dead U.S.

01:02:04.000 servicemembers.

01:02:04.000 Servicemen.

01:02:05.000 On top, no, there were Marines and a Navy medic, a corpsman.

01:02:08.000 And then there are also civilian casualties, although I don't think we have the numbers on the civilian casualties yet.

01:02:12.000 So it's a bunch of Afghani.

01:02:15.000 Afghani, by the way, is the currency.

01:02:17.000 I know people keep saying that when they try to say the plural, it's Afghan.

01:02:19.000 Plenty of civilian Afghans, I believe, died in the event.

01:02:21.000 Imagine serving on a ship with a captain who's, you know, let's just call him sporadic.

01:02:28.000 And you're like, I'm here to do my duty. 0.88

01:02:30.000 And then the people who are on shore are like, Hey, we're going to put this crazy old man up in there.

01:02:34.000 I can't, I can't imagine what it must feel like for a lot of these guys who are like, I'm going to do my best, but they know deep down they're in trouble.

01:02:41.000 Because if Biden's can control your ship, he fires at the enemy ship and he misses.

01:02:45.000 And he does thinks about how to do it again.

01:02:47.000 He's got people and then your ship gets hit with the, with the.

01:02:51.000 They didn't think about any of this when, look, Joe Biden campaigned to be president.

01:02:55.000 He said, I want that job.

01:02:56.000 He knew Trump negotiated this deal to withdraw.

01:02:57.000 understand can happen in reality if you're lazy with military.

01:03:02.000 They didn't think about any of this when look, Joe Biden campaigned to be president.

01:03:07.000 He said, I want that job.

01:03:09.000 He knew Trump negotiated this deal to withdraw.

01:03:13.000 Biden said, I want to be in charge of the world's most powerful military.

01:03:17.000 And a bunch of people said, I would like that man to have control of the world's most powerful

01:03:21.000 military and to oversee our withdrawal from Afghanistan in the Middle East.

01:03:24.000 And this is what they voted for.

01:03:26.000 He's been running for president since the late 1980s.

01:03:28.000 He's been plagiarizing.

01:03:28.000 Yeah.

01:03:30.000 By the way, I mean, him being president the way he is, is like, you ever see that old Twilight Zone episode where the guy's finally alone to read all the books he wants, but he breaks his glasses?

01:03:39.000 You spend your entire life Most of your entire life.

01:03:42.000 You spent a lot of your life trying to be president, and you finally get it, and it turns out you were too incompetent to even execute the basic duties of your office.

01:03:49.000 It was time now!

01:03:50.000 It was my time!

01:03:51.000 It's not fair!

01:03:52.000 This is not fair!

01:03:53.000 Come on, man!

01:03:55.000 I'm president!

01:03:56.000 Here's the deal.

01:03:57.000 So, to your point, if it's just sheer incompetence, maybe Kamala could I was thinking that, man, but it's gotta be.

01:04:05.000 He's not gonna get impeached.

01:04:07.000 He's not gonna resign unless... He's not fit for command, though.

01:04:10.000 You've gotta relieve him of command.

01:04:11.000 I think you'll have to drag him from the Oval Office with his teeth marks still on him.

01:04:15.000 Yeah, yeah, he doesn't want to leave.

01:04:16.000 25th Amendment.

01:04:17.000 Kamala Harris, what if she comes out, because 25th Amendment requires the Vice President to come out and say the President is not competent, and then Pelosi set up that panel. 0.99

01:04:24.000 They were expecting this.

01:04:26.000 I don't know.

01:04:27.000 Look, you were saying earlier that, you know, behind the curtain Kamala's like, it's my time.

01:04:31.000 I don't know.

01:04:32.000 Have you seen her recently in some of her public appearances?

01:04:34.000 She's got a, I don't want to be here right now.

01:04:37.000 I mean, not just shaken, but like she sees what's happening and you think she wants to be in charge of this?

01:04:41.000 The cleanup after this?

01:04:43.000 I wouldn't want it.

01:04:43.000 Would you want it?

01:04:44.000 I would do it, but I mean, I would do it.

01:04:46.000 I would take it if it was there and I had to have it.

01:04:49.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:04:50.000 Is she going to, you know, work behind the scenes to take this? 0.99

01:04:53.000 And I want to clean this up.

01:04:54.000 Here's the difference.

01:04:56.000 Ian, you and Kamala both don't want it.

01:04:56.000 No.

01:04:59.000 You don't want it because you don't want to be in charge.

01:05:01.000 You don't want to have the power, but you're willing to accept responsibility to do the

01:05:04.000 right thing to fix the mess.

01:05:06.000 Kamala doesn't want it because she doesn't want to deal with the mess. 1.00

01:05:09.000 She just wants the power. 0.97

01:05:10.000 You see how that works?

01:05:12.000 She wants the title. 0.95

01:05:13.000 Kamala Harris doesn't want to deal with the crisis. 1.00

01:05:17.000 She just wants the power. 0.97

01:05:18.000 Well, then she's not fit for command either. 0.99

01:05:19.000 Exactly.

01:05:20.000 But we keep saying not fit for command.

01:05:21.000 It extends beyond Biden.

01:05:23.000 Maybe Biden is an F-up who doesn't understand foreign policy as he's shown for the last several decades.

01:05:28.000 But the generals, this is literally their job, is knowing this stuff.

01:05:32.000 Who signed off on all this?

01:05:33.000 Who okayed it?

01:05:34.000 Who didn't push back?

01:05:35.000 Millie didn't push back. 0.95

01:05:37.000 Millie can't be the only one.

01:05:38.000 Who else?

01:05:39.000 So many.

01:05:40.000 He's the head of the Joint Chiefs.

01:05:43.000 They were too busy dealing with White Rage, you know? 0.83

01:05:46.000 You want to hear about White Rage?

01:05:47.000 I got some White Rage right now over this.

01:05:49.000 Yeah.

01:05:50.000 Write General Millie about this.

01:05:52.000 I don't know where it goes from here.

01:05:54.000 It doesn't end well.

01:05:54.000 I don't know.

01:05:55.000 Who's responsible for this?

01:05:56.000 Who makes the call of where the money goes?

01:05:58.000 Ron Paul.

01:05:59.000 He's such a funny character.

01:06:05.000 He's one of those guys that, before, when I first started covering politics, I was like, this seems like a goofy little man.

01:06:13.000 And then, repeatedly, I was like, oh, he was right about that.

01:06:17.000 And be like, well, I didn't doubt him.

01:06:19.000 I'm like, oh, I did.

01:06:20.000 I mean, the one big one, I'm sorry, I know this is a total tangent, was out at the Fed. 0.54

01:06:24.000 And I was like, this is silly.

01:06:25.000 And then the Fed's like, you absolutely will not out at us.

01:06:28.000 Well, why not?

01:06:28.000 Okay.

01:06:30.000 You've seen Casino.

01:06:32.000 Remember when Sharon Stone asks her husband, Robert De Niro for money because he wants to go see her a pimp boyfriend.

01:06:37.000 And she doesn't want to tell her husband that, but she asked for like $15,000.

01:06:40.000 And he's like, what for?

01:06:42.000 She's like, I shouldn't have to tell you what he's like.

01:06:42.000 And then she makes a big stink.

01:06:44.000 And then the line, and I'm always reminded with this stuff.

01:06:47.000 He's like, well, I wasn't, I wasn't interested, but now I am.

01:06:49.000 That's how I feel with a lot of the stuff that Ron Paul has talked about.

01:06:52.000 I'm like, I didn't really have a strong opinion on this, but the fact that you guys are so reluctant to do this, now I'm very curious.

01:06:57.000 I gotta be honest, you know?

01:07:00.000 I'd take a President Ian right now.

01:07:02.000 I'd take a President Tim.

01:07:03.000 Oh, I wouldn't want to be President Tim.

01:07:04.000 I don't want to be President, but I need military strategy at the top of the game right now.

01:07:09.000 I just want to be Vice President, just travel the world, shake hands, try new food, be great.

01:07:12.000 We'd be better off with like, you know, Rick Smith from Dubuque, Iowa, who's like a local plumber.

01:07:20.000 It's the old Buckley saying, he's like, you'd be better off being ruled by three random names from the phone book than most of these eggheads.

01:07:25.000 And that's real.

01:07:26.000 People can know, you think you can do this better?

01:07:28.000 I'm like, yes, me and three completely random people could probably do what's happening in Afghanistan better.

01:07:33.000 I know enough that you'd get the civilians out first.

01:07:35.000 Like, this isn't hard.

01:07:37.000 Not only that, but some of the low-ranking guys in Afghanistan could have done a way better job.

01:07:41.000 And I imagine that's got to be really frustrating to be deployed on the ground knowing and sitting there being like, why are they doing this?

01:07:46.000 They're understaffed and they're under-resourced over there.

01:07:48.000 They are working with what they have, which is not great.

01:07:51.000 And the other thing too, I don't think a lot of people have been talking about this sort of psychological angle to this.

01:07:55.000 The guys who are there now know that they're working on the final chapter to a big foreign policy failure.

01:08:01.000 They know everything they're doing has been a buildup to failure, and they've been tasked now with trying to get the last Americans out while surrounded by the Taliban. 0.92

01:08:08.000 Can you imagine what that job is even like?

01:08:10.000 And then losing at least 13 of your colleagues all in the same day.

01:08:13.000 I mean, this is... None of this had to happen to me.

01:08:18.000 This was all done by a president and a White House that doesn't know what it's doing, or, as some people have suggested, is actually just malicious. 0.98

01:08:25.000 I've had those jobs, man, where you're like, my boss is dumb, and they don't know how this stuff works. 0.74

01:08:30.000 There's a lot of jobs you'll get where the manager is hired externally, and so they've never actually worked, say, the soda machine or the cash register. 0.69

01:08:37.000 And they're sitting there trying to tell you how it works, and you're like, dude, you have no idea what you're talking about, right?

01:08:41.000 It's frustrating.

01:08:42.000 I could not imagine what it must be like to be deployed in Afghanistan, and knowing what's going on in the country, knowing how the people react, knowing what the Taliban is, and then getting these orders where you're like, You want me to do what?

01:08:53.000 Because this is your life on the line.

01:08:55.000 This ain't a cheeseburger or a cash register.

01:08:57.000 I can't imagine what the U.S. 0.71

01:08:58.000 Marines feel like seeing Afghans, possible Afghan allies, UK nationals, people with their papers, and they can't take them or go out and defend them because they've been ordered to stay put.

01:09:09.000 The 82nd Airborne has been ordered not to go outside of Kabul to save Americans and other people, while the British paratroopers are going in and the French Special Forces have been going into these sort of daring night raids all over and the Americans just have to sit there.

01:09:23.000 I can't imagine how demoralizing, how much of a shock that must be.

01:09:28.000 As an American, like look, as civilians, we know the idea that Americans being left behind is such a... I never thought that this could happen.

01:09:37.000 I can't imagine what this is like for a guy who's dedicated his life to being in the armed services.

01:09:41.000 Would it be like, you can't go out and get those Americans? 0.98

01:09:44.000 I can't do that?

01:09:45.000 And we might leave some behind?

01:09:47.000 That's gotta... They talk a lot during the Trump year.

01:09:51.000 Sorry not to interrupt.

01:09:52.000 They talked a lot during the Trump years about unprecedented stuff.

01:09:55.000 The idea that we are uncoursed to abandon Americans in a foreign country to a terrorist death cult.

01:10:02.000 Nothing like that has happened in this country before.

01:10:05.000 You know what really tears at me?

01:10:07.000 I mean obviously the US troops and the loss of life is the biggest thing, but I'm just thinking like, if they didn't abandon the Afghan security forces the way they did, Afghanistan could have been successful.

01:10:19.000 It could have been.

01:10:21.000 They could, in fact, you know, we've talked with other vets on the show where they said something like, you draw down, you know, the overall majority, 90 plus percent of American forces and leave a few commanders or, you know, strategy, logistics, with some air support, some drones, and it's done.

01:10:36.000 We get out, that minimal support can help keep things secure.

01:10:39.000 And then I look at what happened with evacuating the Air Force bases in the middle of the night, not informing the Afghan security forces.

01:10:46.000 And I wonder if Biden did this properly, would there be a secure Afghanistan right now for their people?

01:10:54.000 I mean, maybe a big problem that the US military is also reported is that the Afghan government is extremely corrupt and susceptible to bribes and looking at their way.

01:11:04.000 Another problem that I know a lot of military have reported is that the Afghans that they've tried to train the training has been very difficult because there's a lot of lack of discipline. 1.00

01:11:13.000 I've seen the videos, man.

01:11:14.000 Can't do jumping jacks.

01:11:15.000 Stuff like that.

01:11:16.000 Sidesaddle.

01:11:16.000 What's it called?

01:11:17.000 People, jumping jacks, people straight up abandoning.

01:11:20.000 Just walking away.

01:11:21.000 Smoking hash.

01:11:23.000 Because they don't want to do it anymore.

01:11:24.000 So I don't know if Afghanistan would still be standing with just a few things differing.

01:11:29.000 I mean, it's not like there was a lack of spending or a lack of arms or a lack of training.

01:11:35.000 So maybe it would stay in, maybe it would fall.

01:11:38.000 But the White House keeps saying, we plan for all contingencies.

01:11:42.000 Apparently, Afghanistan falling to the Taliban was not one of those contingencies.

01:11:45.000 And how you overlooked that, despite everything you were being told by your guys on the ground about how difficult it is to train them and how corrupt the government is.

01:11:53.000 Well-known corrupt.

01:11:54.000 Everyone knew that.

01:11:56.000 We all know that.

01:11:57.000 We don't work in government.

01:11:58.000 We don't work in the United States military.

01:11:59.000 We know it's corrupt.

01:12:00.000 It's interesting, I always wondered, like, why is bribery so less common here, you know?

01:12:05.000 I don't think it is.

01:12:07.000 No, no, no.

01:12:08.000 It is.

01:12:09.000 Bribery is common, but it's much less common.

01:12:12.000 Like, I hear these stories.

01:12:14.000 Oh, look, when you get pulled over, would you say to the officer how much to make the ticket go away?

01:12:19.000 Of course not.

01:12:20.000 Never going to happen.

01:12:21.000 Not in the US.

01:12:21.000 But in Russia.

01:12:22.000 In Russia.

01:12:23.000 In Peru.

01:12:23.000 In South America, too.

01:12:24.000 I was going to say in Costa Rica.

01:12:26.000 I was in Costa Rica once and I was warned the cops will try to shake you down for a bribe.

01:12:31.000 So, OK, yeah, to that point, that's what you mean.

01:12:34.000 It's substantially more common in so many other countries.

01:12:35.000 And I wonder why that is.

01:12:38.000 More robust press?

01:12:39.000 Rule of law.

01:12:40.000 More robust, I do.

01:12:41.000 Scruples like rule of law here.

01:12:44.000 Like I can't do that.

01:12:45.000 That's just wrong.

01:12:46.000 Or I could get in trouble.

01:12:47.000 You know, we we we know the cops going to arrest you for it.

01:12:51.000 There's your most likely.

01:12:52.000 Yeah.

01:12:53.000 But in these other countries, the cops expect it.

01:12:53.000 Yeah.

01:12:56.000 I mean, I think maybe just a lack of robust law system, lack of respect for law.

01:12:56.000 I don't know.

01:13:01.000 I'm not trying to get all, you know, Blue Lives Matter or whatever, but like, this is a very sort of strong culture in America of, you know, you pull over, you respect, dot, dot, dot, and you have that interaction.

01:13:11.000 I have never once been tempted to slide a cop a $50 bill or anything.

01:13:15.000 I think that would end very poorly for me.

01:13:15.000 Yeah, that's weird.

01:13:17.000 Yeah, yeah, that would probably just be like a hatred.

01:13:19.000 It's a felony, I would imagine.

01:13:20.000 Yeah.

01:13:20.000 It's a felony, right?

01:13:21.000 Yeah, you can't bribe a cop.

01:13:23.000 I believe.

01:13:23.000 Rule of law, man.

01:13:24.000 That's a big part of the foundation of this whole project of the United States.

01:13:29.000 It's sad when people do things that, especially people in power, do things that are illegal and don't get reprimanded for it.

01:13:36.000 Like the President's son?

01:13:37.000 Yeah, and like Hillary Clinton with emails, like that was viciously illegal what she did. 1.00

01:13:41.000 She skirted all FOIA laws.

01:13:43.000 I'm not all into like punishing everyone for every crime all the time.

01:13:46.000 Like I definitely like leniency and like these people on January 6th should be released.

01:13:52.000 That should all be pardoned.

01:13:54.000 We need unity right now.

01:13:56.000 But I mean, at some point you got to respect law and order.

01:14:00.000 You know why you get January 6th?

01:14:01.000 Because of Hillary Clinton getting away with the servers. 1.00

01:14:03.000 I mean, I don't know if the two are generally connected, but I will say one thing that's really demoralizing and easy to give into anger is the expectation that people like Hunter and Hillary will never see justice.

01:14:15.000 They break laws that anyone else would go away for.

01:14:17.000 This is what I mean.

01:14:18.000 When people feel demoralized, like there's nothing they can do to actually get justice, we're living under anarcho-tyranny, they just...

01:14:27.000 What do you do when you back an animal into a corner?

01:14:29.000 It's gonna fight.

01:14:30.000 Rabbits like to run, right? 1.00

01:14:30.000 You get a rabbit. 1.00

01:14:32.000 But you put it into a one-dimensional burrow, for instance.

01:14:36.000 They have nowhere to go.

01:14:38.000 They fight.

01:14:39.000 And when people get desperate, they do desperate things.

01:14:41.000 Going back to our earlier conversation about desperation.

01:14:44.000 That's why I agree with you on the pardoning of these people.

01:14:48.000 Because as much as people might not want to do it, you need to be like, okay, we're gonna call a timeout on this one.

01:14:48.000 Outright.

01:14:55.000 We're gonna say, guys, please don't do this.

01:14:59.000 We're gonna let these guys go.

01:15:01.000 John Hancock did that after Shea's Rebellion.

01:15:03.000 We've talked a little bit about it.

01:15:04.000 Right after the Articles of Confederation were signed, big, you know, I don't know if you know much about the Farmers' Rebellion that caused them, basically they had to centralize command of taxes because the states were taxing the farmers.

01:15:14.000 The farmers didn't have the money to pay, so they revolted.

01:15:17.000 John Hancock pardoned those guys.

01:15:18.000 I think two people ended up getting put to death for the rebellion, but he pardoned, like, everybody that was involved.

01:15:24.000 And because of that, we have a country today.

01:15:26.000 If he'd persecuted those people, we probably wouldn't have.

01:15:28.000 I don't know.

01:15:29.000 I haven't actually thought about it.

01:15:30.000 I have been troubled by the fact that some people are still being kind of held indefinitely.

01:15:35.000 That is so pointless and terrifying right now.

01:15:35.000 It's terrifying.

01:15:38.000 I think maybe the word trouble is a little too much of an underreaction.

01:15:41.000 The fact that people are still being held is not right.

01:15:43.000 I mean, charge them.

01:15:44.000 Charge them.

01:15:44.000 Set them on a court date, at least.

01:15:46.000 This indefinite detention thing.

01:15:48.000 I don't think that's the right response.

01:15:50.000 I don't know about pardoning, though.

01:15:51.000 I haven't quite thought about that.

01:15:52.000 I mean, a lot of vandalism, at least, at the very least, is a crime.

01:15:56.000 Right.

01:15:56.000 You could say if you pardon them that they might do it again.

01:15:59.000 That argument could be like, hey, we're not going to.

01:16:00.000 But I mean, if you do it a second time, you're going away, buddy.

01:16:03.000 Don't don't trespass on on federal property.

01:16:06.000 Learn your lesson.

01:16:07.000 But they weren't there to hurt people.

01:16:10.000 Well, I mean, I think a lot of the security forces there that day would beg to differ.

01:16:15.000 It's contention.

01:16:15.000 I guess that's a good point.

01:16:16.000 Some people think they were there to hurt people.

01:16:17.000 Some people don't.

01:16:18.000 I mean, I see it as that they were there protesting out of rage, but I didn't see any like overt attacks.

01:16:23.000 I mean, but there was like the sticks and the beatings and all that stuff.

01:16:26.000 You can see the footage of that.

01:16:27.000 There's a lot to say.

01:16:28.000 It was a mindless crowd of a lot of different wants.

01:16:30.000 Eighteen men were convicted and sentenced to death in Shay's Rebellion.

01:16:32.000 Eighteen?

01:16:33.000 Eighteen.

01:16:34.000 And he pardoned the rest?

01:16:34.000 Out of four thousand.

01:16:36.000 Uh, most were granted amnesty for signing- they would say signed confessions, acknowledging participation.

01:16:42.000 Uh, several hundred were indented on charges, but most- most were pardoned, and 18 were convicted and sentenced to death.

01:16:48.000 I gotta read more about this whole process, because I know John Hancock actually stepped down before that rebellion.

01:16:54.000 He was like, I'm not getting involved.

01:16:55.000 And then the rebellion happened.

01:16:56.000 And the interesting thing is, it's not Shays, like apostrophe S. It's Shays, his name.

01:17:01.000 His name is S-H-A-Y-S. 1.00

01:17:04.000 It was the Shays Rebellion, not Shays Rebellion.

01:17:06.000 Interesting.

01:17:07.000 Yeah.

01:17:08.000 Yeah, he fought in the Revolutionary War, and then because of... He came back from the war.

01:17:13.000 They didn't pay the troops in the Revolutionary War, so all these farmers came back from the war with no money.

01:17:18.000 Then they found out that they owed all this money in taxes because their farm had been accruing all this debt while they were gone.

01:17:23.000 They didn't have the money to pay for it.

01:17:25.000 So they made them debtor slaves.

01:17:26.000 They put them in prison.

01:17:28.000 And the farmers had enough.

01:17:29.000 They would go to the courthouses.

01:17:30.000 And that famous letter from Thomas Jefferson about the Tree of Liberty comes from Shays' Rebellion. 0.99

01:17:34.000 But at the very least, for the Capitol rioters, I'm still stuck on the sort of preferred term, insurrectionist, because I'm not sure if that's explicitly accurate.

01:17:44.000 But at the very least, assaulting a police officer is a crime.

01:17:47.000 A lot of officers were assaulted that day.

01:17:49.000 I know the one was not beaten to death with a fire extinguisher.

01:17:52.000 I'm still kind of amazed at the amount of false information that came out.

01:17:56.000 Which, I mean, I guess I'm not amazed because when you have chaotic events, you get a lot of conflicting reports.

01:18:01.000 Officer Sicknick, according to the D.C.

01:18:03.000 Medical Examiner, did not succumb to any injuries, internal or external, suffered that day.

01:18:08.000 But there is ample footage of people beating police officers, shoving them, the guy getting crushed in the door.

01:18:15.000 Maybe you could pardon all the trespassing charges and then just, if people were violent, bust them for that.

01:18:20.000 If they broke windows, bust them for that.

01:18:23.000 You can see there was lots of damage done to the Capitol building.

01:18:26.000 The one thing, I mean, it's a tricky issue for me to discuss because a lot of the legal ramifications and legalese that's involved in it.

01:18:35.000 But one thing that has always struck me, I was watching it and I used to, when I was living in D.C.

01:18:40.000 when it happened, I wasn't at the Capitol.

01:18:42.000 I was a couple blocks away where I lived.

01:18:43.000 I live in Capital East.

01:18:48.000 Hillies, whatever it's called.

01:18:50.000 One thing that struck me, though, is I thought for sure watching that whole unfold, the crowds, the nervousness, the screaming, the breaking through doors, the shattering windows.

01:18:59.000 I was convinced that I was about to see live streamed Kent State 2.0.

01:19:04.000 Oh, wow.

01:19:05.000 I am amazed.

01:19:07.000 Now, Ashley Babbitt is dead.

01:19:09.000 Rest in peace.

01:19:10.000 Again, I'm not making any legal judgments on her participation or anything.

01:19:14.000 I don't like it when people get killed.

01:19:15.000 I don't like death.

01:19:18.000 I'm amazed that the one death that's directly connected to the violence that day, there's one death.

01:19:26.000 I'm amazed.

01:19:27.000 Whoever trained those police officers in, you know, violent response, I think should get an award.

01:19:32.000 Because I thought for sure there was going to be guns were going to be drawn, people were, you know, because they were getting... The cops were letting them in.

01:19:38.000 What do you mean?

01:19:38.000 Some cops were, not all of them though, but especially when you had like that one part, uh, where the speaker's chamber, it goes in where Babbitt jumped in.

01:19:45.000 I mean, they clearly were not letting him into that.

01:19:47.000 That's where they were, they were, they were pushing against each other.

01:19:49.000 Right.

01:19:49.000 And then you had the other doors where the cops actually opened them up.

01:19:51.000 Well, no, no, no, not the speaker's chamber.

01:19:53.000 You had two guards, uh, two cops guarding it.

01:19:55.000 And then they, you know what I mean?

01:19:56.000 The building, outside the building.

01:19:57.000 Some doors were open, not all of them.

01:19:58.000 Some of them were forcibly open.

01:19:59.000 You can see the inside.

01:20:00.000 What I'm saying is, There was this push into like one of the center doors, and then you get like the SWAT, the cops with special, they're shoving, people are getting smashed inside the, you know, rotunda or whatever.

01:20:11.000 And then you had doors off to the side.

01:20:13.000 There's video of it.

01:20:14.000 You just opened them right up.

01:20:15.000 Some of them, yeah.

01:20:16.000 And the cops were like, disagree with it, but you agree with your right to protest.

01:20:19.000 Yeah, I saw that.

01:20:20.000 Some cops are taking selfies with them.

01:20:21.000 Well, no, that's weird because I remember in the aftermath of that, there was a lot of talk about how the cops were in on it.

01:20:26.000 And I think that was ignoring that as a, as a riot mitigation efforts or Ryan mitigation tactics.

01:20:32.000 This is something you can do.

01:20:33.000 We can kind of ferry people, get it out of your system, get out of the building.

01:20:36.000 As opposed to, you know, you're not going to know Lord, the ring stand there with your shield and try to do a battle to the death, especially when you're grossly outnumbered.

01:20:43.000 I don't know if we need to litigate all of this, but I just keep thinking about the day and the sort of chaos and confusion and I'm still amazed that there were not more like itchy trigger fingers.

01:20:54.000 I think that's a huge blessing and I'm amazed.

01:20:56.000 Again, I'm not trying to mitigate Babbitt's death or anything or make any legal judgment on that, but I'm surprised that there was one death.

01:21:04.000 You were there.

01:21:05.000 I wasn't there.

01:21:05.000 I was not in the building.

01:21:07.000 I lived near there.

01:21:08.000 Close by helicopters.

01:21:08.000 You were close by though.

01:21:09.000 You watched.

01:21:10.000 Wow.

01:21:10.000 Yeah, and I'm just amazed that it wasn't more violent.

01:21:14.000 Now, I know whoever sees this will probably, You say the insurrection wasn't violent?

01:21:18.000 I'm not saying that.

01:21:19.000 Well, we now know it wasn't.

01:21:20.000 I'm surprised it didn't spiral more out of control, is what I'm saying.

01:21:22.000 It is now definitive it was not an insurrection, as much as we were always saying it wasn't.

01:21:27.000 The FBI came out and said that there's no evidence of coordination, not from the present or anybody else, and of the groups that actually planned on breaking in, they had no actual plans.

01:21:34.000 But does that, and see this is why I was saying earlier, it's difficult to discuss because does that, I don't know if that negates the legal term for insurrection just because... No one's been charged with insurrection.

01:21:45.000 Just because there's no insurrection.

01:21:46.000 Just because there's no coronation doesn't mean it's not an insurrection.

01:21:49.000 I mean storming Capitol Building during Congress's business to certify the election, doesn't that not technically count as insurrection?

01:21:55.000 Ask prosecutors why they're not charging anybody with insurrection then.

01:21:58.000 Because there's none.

01:22:00.000 Didn't happen.

01:22:01.000 I guess, but I was just saying, I don't know the fact that there was no coordination.

01:22:04.000 I don't think that means that it was an insurrection.

01:22:06.000 I actually think if there's no coordination, there's no insurrection.

01:22:09.000 So like if you, how are you going to, the insurrection is the idea is like a direct, it's intent.

01:22:09.000 Yeah.

01:22:17.000 It's a goal.

01:22:17.000 It's, it's, you're doing a thing for a reason.

01:22:19.000 It was a riot.

01:22:20.000 Yeah.

01:22:21.000 A lot of people who've been interviewed since then who participated in it, almost to a man, they're like, I have no idea why I did it.

01:22:26.000 I just got caught up.

01:22:27.000 You know, you, I don't know if any of you have been involved in sort of a, um, Spur of the moment, mass movement, activity with a group.

01:22:35.000 I've covered a bunch of riots.

01:22:37.000 I know, to avoid.

01:22:38.000 I was at Mardi Gras.

01:22:39.000 Occupy Wall Street, that's a good one.

01:22:40.000 Mardi Gras in St.

01:22:41.000 Louis.

01:22:41.000 Brazil, Turkey.

01:22:42.000 Yeah, but like, no, no, I was saying like, the Zuccotti Park stuff, like a lot of that is just, you get this mentality, let's do it and be legends!

01:22:50.000 You don't really think about it.

01:22:51.000 And we've seen this post-insurrection, and a lot of people have been like, I have no idea why I did it.

01:22:56.000 Mob mentality.

01:22:57.000 Mob mentality.

01:22:58.000 It's a strange, real thing.

01:22:59.000 Is that why people cheer at sports events?

01:23:01.000 No.

01:23:02.000 Why are you screaming?

01:23:04.000 You can't disturb the opponent's team if you yell really loud.

01:23:08.000 If someone scores, your team scores a point, you're gonna be like, yeah.

01:23:11.000 Also, on a microcosm, I was sitting at my friend's baseball game, and my friend hit the ball, and I went, yeah!

01:23:16.000 Really loud and the first baseman got stunned when I screamed and the ball went by.

01:23:21.000 I was like, I'm the fourth man.

01:23:23.000 So no, you can, you can, with the riot, you can break it down to, was it insurrection or was it just people got caught up and things got out of control?

01:23:31.000 I think more of the latter is what it seems to me.

01:23:34.000 The thing that I keep coming back to is I'm just surprised it didn't spiral more.

01:23:37.000 With the lack of communication, half the cops apparently walked out and just like walked home.

01:23:41.000 Some people walked out and some people were hospitalized.

01:23:44.000 It's like, there was no communication.

01:23:45.000 Half the cops didn't know what was happening.

01:23:47.000 A lot of, about 140 police officers suffered various injuries.

01:23:51.000 And yet, like, there wasn't shootings.

01:23:53.000 There weren't people, you know, don't you move.

01:23:56.000 I'm surprised.

01:23:57.000 That's all I'm saying.

01:23:57.000 I'm just surprised.

01:23:58.000 I really thought stuff was going to go sideways super fast, super hard.

01:24:01.000 Oh yeah.

01:24:02.000 And I'm extremely grateful it didn't.

01:24:04.000 When I heard there was tear gas in the rotunda, I was like, oh, Yeah.

01:24:07.000 Wow.

01:24:08.000 It's getting hot.

01:24:08.000 Facebook banned me for it.

01:24:09.000 That one video of the one Capitol, um, Capitol police officer who like redirected the protesters away from the main chamber.

01:24:15.000 I don't, I don't actually believe that.

01:24:17.000 Perhaps my point though, in that video, he has his hand on his gun the whole time.

01:24:20.000 Like, again, I'm just saying the, everything there seemed to me to be about one degree from going really bad, really fast.

01:24:26.000 And it did go really bad for one person.

01:24:28.000 I'm just surprised it wasn't more.

01:24:31.000 They pushed this narrative that he guided the group away or whatever.

01:24:35.000 And I'm like, I don't believe that was his intent.

01:24:37.000 I think he was just backing away from an angry mob.

01:24:41.000 I don't know if that was his intent.

01:24:43.000 It's what he did, though.

01:24:45.000 Even if you accident into something successful.

01:24:48.000 No, he didn't, though.

01:24:50.000 He went up the stairs and went a specific direction.

01:24:53.000 In fact, you could argue he actually led them to Pelosi's office.

01:24:56.000 Then they broke in and then they stole her laptop.

01:24:58.000 Why don't we say that?

01:25:00.000 I'm sorry, what?

01:25:01.000 it did what we say that actually led them to help you let them look the cops

01:25:05.000 open the doors we know that and this one cop all of a sudden is is guiding the

01:25:09.000 protesters next another and polos his office still in a laptop yeah I think

01:25:13.000 that the point is the cop was backing away from an angry mob you don't want to

01:25:16.000 confront them and he chose a direction to back away at the cops should also be

01:25:19.000 pardoned for any involvement in this The people didn't hurt people.

01:25:23.000 Like you said, there wasn't violence.

01:25:25.000 There was very, very, very little violence.

01:25:27.000 The Ashley Babbitt thing is terrifying, but she was, like, forcing her way, it looked like, into the inner chamber.

01:25:31.000 And, you know, they're defending the Capitol.

01:25:33.000 None of these, those people, basically, the cops and the people kept it pretty civil.

01:25:38.000 So I think we should move on from this.

01:25:40.000 My fear is that the Patriot Act, you know, terror investigators want to use this as an example to, like, use their state tools of spying on the American people.

01:25:52.000 They're putting, they put the list together.

01:25:54.000 They're going after the communications of Trump supporters.

01:25:56.000 But it's, that doesn't make, that's not the liberty angle right now.

01:25:56.000 Right.

01:25:59.000 The liberty angle is to pardon this mess and move on.

01:26:02.000 We have the Afghan, we have people like, On their last legs in Afghanistan right now, and we need a country, a unified nation. 0.96

01:26:08.000 Imagine this.

01:26:09.000 Imagine if Joe Biden came out and announced a formal pardon for all of those involved in January 6th, and then all of the Democrats would come out supporting him, being like, you know, we agree this is the right thing to do.

01:26:20.000 But how would that manifest in the culture?

01:26:21.000 Yeah, people would start shivering because they have so much energy and they don't have anywhere to direct it.

01:26:25.000 They'd have to start meditating, you know?

01:26:26.000 But I mean, think about it.

01:26:27.000 Like, if he did that, Democrats would immediately support the move saying this is this is leadership unifying this country.

01:26:33.000 And then Trump supporters would be like, that's a good thing that he's doing.

01:26:36.000 I agree.

01:26:37.000 I don't know if Democrats would get behind it.

01:26:39.000 They are committed to this to this investigation in this committee.

01:26:43.000 No, but it would be a hard sell.

01:26:45.000 I mean, you'd have to sell them on it first.

01:26:46.000 Obviously, he wouldn't blindside them.

01:26:48.000 No, I think if Biden blindsided them, they would immediately fall in line.

01:26:52.000 He better do something if he wants to save face right now.

01:26:55.000 He's got to do some epic diplomacy.

01:26:58.000 No, it's interesting, though, watching some again.

01:27:00.000 I think a lot of the international reporting on Afghanistan has been pretty sharp and very sort of like uncompromising.

01:27:06.000 But it's been predictably disgusting watching how a lot of commentators and cable news talking heads.

01:27:13.000 I mentioned this because of January 6th specifically, you have people like Joy Reid, who've been trying to redirect attention from Afghanistan to January 6th, being like, we should talk about the terrorists at home.

01:27:24.000 Yeah, our Taliban. 0.59

01:27:25.000 It's like, well, first of all, we can walk and chew gum at the same time.

01:27:28.000 Secondly, you seem a little too excited about this.

01:27:31.000 It almost feels like you're using this like a political chip, just a little bit.

01:27:35.000 It seems like you really enjoy this and don't want to talk about that clear cluster over in Afghanistan.

01:27:40.000 Yep.

01:27:42.000 So I don't, I would say don't let them distract.

01:27:44.000 You can do both things at the same time.

01:27:46.000 For me right now, my obvious interests lie in Afghanistan.

01:27:48.000 That, to me, seems to be the more pressing and horrifying and real, you know, real and clear and present danger.

01:27:56.000 The reality is that Afghanistan is a distraction for the fact that they should put out a list of Trump supporters and they're going after private communications and the Fascism is coming to the United States. 0.54

01:28:05.000 I'm half kidding, by the way.

01:28:06.000 That was like trying to pull focus away from Afghanistan, too.

01:28:09.000 Or the other way around.

01:28:11.000 There's such bad press, this Afghanistan thing.

01:28:11.000 Yeah.

01:28:14.000 All these other things that are popping up right now.

01:28:17.000 It's pro-wrestling.

01:28:18.000 It's just this.

01:28:19.000 It's just the Biden administration and the Democratic Party are just in a weird state of chaos.

01:28:25.000 And that's it.

01:28:26.000 I think the only thing keeping them together is that they have really good discipline when it comes to unity.

01:28:30.000 They're just sticking together.

01:28:32.000 And to the point about that list, that to me suggests more than anything that there's a large political angle.

01:28:38.000 It's not about restoring our norms or protecting our core democracy or whatever those cliches they're using.

01:28:44.000 It's a dragnet.

01:28:45.000 They're just splunking to see what they can catch.

01:28:47.000 I think they want to understand Trump's strategy.

01:28:51.000 That's why Scott Pressler's on the list, because he registers Republicans to vote. 0.63

01:28:56.000 That's what he does, and he cleans up garbage.

01:28:57.000 So they want to understand the strategy Republicans have for registering new voters.

01:29:01.000 They go after Trump's spokesperson for the campaign.

01:29:06.000 They're just trying to get communications so they can see how he was running his campaign.

01:29:10.000 They want to get sources.

01:29:13.000 It's a big phishing expedition.

01:29:14.000 Not because I think they want to arrest people, necessarily.

01:29:17.000 They might get to that point.

01:29:18.000 But they want free consulting.

01:29:21.000 Like, I mean, look, the stuff that they're going to dig up from these activists costs money for campaigns, and now they're just taking it all.

01:29:29.000 But why would they go through this trouble when they already have stuff like Facebook in their pocket helping them with all their get-out-the-room stuff?

01:29:33.000 They don't understand how Trump rallies people, and they want to understand his private metrics.

01:29:37.000 They want all of his data going back from April until after the election, on the election, meaning they want Trump, all communications between all these different government agencies and all the people who worked on the Trump campaign.

01:29:49.000 They want to know every detail of his campaign.

01:29:53.000 I know it's not the point, but I did laugh when I saw the list of people because it said all Trump children except for Tiffany.

01:30:00.000 It said that?

01:30:01.000 I was like, what is, poor Tiffany, what is going on there?

01:30:01.000 It said that.

01:30:05.000 She's always left out.

01:30:07.000 Doesn't make the list.

01:30:08.000 She didn't make the list.

01:30:09.000 They're going after all of them but Tiffany.

01:30:11.000 That's a scary thing, though, man, that list.

01:30:13.000 To me, it seems just like kind of a desperate fishing expedition.

01:30:15.000 They're looking for something damming, so they're just... But to your point about Pressler, like, what does he have to do with any of this?

01:30:20.000 Oh, but I mean, a bunch of people weren't even there on January 6th.

01:30:24.000 And what does their data going back from April have to do with the insurrection?

01:30:27.000 With the quote-unquote insurrection?

01:30:29.000 Nothing.

01:30:31.000 They're just grabbing a list of prominent and influential Trump supporters, and they're trying to intimidate.

01:30:37.000 They're trying to get access to private information.

01:30:40.000 They're going after their political rivals with the weight of government.

01:30:42.000 This spells the end of whatever you want to call it.

01:30:47.000 I mean, there will be an America in some fashion, but not as we've known it.

01:30:50.000 It can be.

01:30:51.000 It can be.

01:30:52.000 I have boundless faith in this country, just not its leaders.

01:30:52.000 We can take it back.

01:30:57.000 Yeah.

01:30:58.000 You know, we get to this point, I think, when we see 37.2% of the country want to secede, have their regional union secede from the greater country.

01:30:58.000 I don't know, though.

01:31:07.000 And then you see that the Democrats are willing to pull out, producing a list to actually spy on American communications and rival campaigns.

01:31:14.000 I'm like, man, we certainly crossed that Rubicon some time ago.

01:31:16.000 You know, it's always surprised me and not surprised me.

01:31:19.000 I found it so amusing during the Trump years, all that the mountain of news stories and commentary about how he he's him and the Russians stole the election with Facebook memes.

01:31:30.000 You know, Facebook was weaponized against us.

01:31:33.000 And I was like, do you all forget?

01:31:35.000 The glowing thousand plus word profiles you wrote after 2008 and 2012 about the Obama campaign's amazing Facebook strategy, how they work directly with Facebook to figure out where to find, I don't want to say not vulnerable, gettable voters and how the Obama people, they got this, they nailed it, but now using Facebook.

01:31:56.000 Oh my God.

01:31:57.000 You had memes about Jesus arm-wrestling Satan.

01:32:00.000 That's how he won.

01:32:01.000 That proves it!

01:32:02.000 I mean, when they talk about how Russia hacked our election, and you keep drilling down, you keep asking, how did they steal the election?

01:32:09.000 Well, they put out disinformation.

01:32:12.000 First of all, that's not new.

01:32:14.000 Secondly, what disinformation?

01:32:16.000 I was actually at the museum.

01:32:18.000 I'm sorry, no, the Spy Museum in Washington, D.C., and they had an exhibit on, like, foreign propaganda and stuff.

01:32:23.000 And they had actually the Facebook meme of Christ and Satan wrestling.

01:32:28.000 It says, like if you want Trump to win, dislike or whatever if you want Hillary to lose.

01:32:32.000 And I was like, you think this propaganda swayed?

01:32:36.000 And find me the American who was on the fence about Hillary until they saw Christ arm wrestling Satan.

01:32:42.000 And they're like, well, that's convinced me.

01:32:44.000 That convinced me.

01:32:45.000 I'm like, first of all, that person should not be allowed to vote.

01:32:47.000 That's the first thing. 1.00

01:32:48.000 That person's a crazy person. 0.97

01:32:50.000 Secondly, that didn't do it. 0.92

01:32:51.000 And then you drill down a little further and they go, well, they hacked Tony Podesta's emails and some other various Democratic officials.

01:32:56.000 I mean, you think that swayed the election?

01:32:58.000 I would argue the FBI and the Love Tower Comey thing hurt her more, which I think they believe, which is part of the reason they hate Comey.

01:33:06.000 Let's go to Super Chats!

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01:33:14.000 Leave us a good review on podcast platforms.

01:33:17.000 And I'll just mention something, too.

01:33:18.000 Spotify took down one of my other, my Tim Pool, the Tim Pool Daily Show.

01:33:21.000 They took out an episode.

01:33:22.000 I have no idea why.

01:33:22.000 Which episode?

01:33:24.000 It was... I can't remember.

01:33:26.000 It was from a couple weeks ago, actually.

01:33:29.000 Just got an email saying, you have violated the terms and conditions.

01:33:31.000 Your episode has been removed.

01:33:32.000 And I'm like, for what?

01:33:34.000 From, like, the TimCast channel?

01:33:36.000 Yeah.

01:33:37.000 Politics?

01:33:37.000 It's all politics, right?

01:33:39.000 Yeah, I have no idea what I could have said or anything.

01:33:42.000 I have no idea.

01:33:43.000 That's like if we're going to write a new constitution for the 21st century, part of it has to be that if someone's going to remove your content, they need to give you an explicit reason why.

01:33:51.000 Yeah, and there should be some kind of process for it.

01:33:54.000 And a copy of the content as well.

01:33:55.000 Let's read some of these Super Chats. 1.00

01:33:56.000 We got Make 1984 Fiction Again saying, Joe Biden is responsible for those deaths so he can only seek retaliation on himself.

01:34:04.000 Wow.

01:34:05.000 Yeah, that's how you were saying how he's how he freaks out on reporters.

01:34:09.000 That's like what he's doing about the Taliban. 0.52

01:34:11.000 We were going to we're going to go after with everything we can if they messed if they hurt us.

01:34:15.000 It's like, dude, you put us in this position.

01:34:16.000 Right.

01:34:17.000 And the different talking points, which is, well, this is why we're leaving.

01:34:20.000 Also, I need to put in more troops to go get them.

01:34:22.000 Or we might put in more troops to go get them.

01:34:24.000 Like, well, which one are we doing?

01:34:25.000 And I'm sorry, just to one of the things that I found particularly disgusting about all this is his first major press conference on the disaster over there.

01:34:32.000 He actually blamed the Afghans for the Taliban takeover. 0.99

01:34:35.000 He basically said those guys are too chicken, whatever word, a bunch of cowards. 1.00

01:34:39.000 They're weak. 1.00

01:34:40.000 I'm not going to sacrifice American sons and daughters to fight a civil war the Afghans won't fight for themselves. 1.00

01:34:45.000 I'm like, they have been 60,000, 60,000 Afghan police and national security members of the army have died since 2001 fighting the Taliban in their own backyard with every personal risk to their life and liberty in their own backyard.

01:34:59.000 They have nowhere to run if it fails.

01:35:02.000 And he blamed them for all of this.

01:35:04.000 I'll say this too. I initially praised him for pointing out when we learned that the Afghan security forces just

01:35:08.000 basically abandoned ship I was like, you know, he's right about that

01:35:10.000 Why are we gonna fight if they won't and then we learned about the stripping of logistics air support Bagram and I

01:35:15.000 was like, okay Well, he stripped air support. He basically whacked him in

01:35:19.000 the leg with a crowbar and then said look they won't even fight 0.78

01:35:22.000 All right, that's real bad That's my president.

01:35:25.000 We got Gerald Armstrong says Biden committed treason by sending the Taliban

01:35:29.000 a list of American citizens in Afghanistan.

01:35:31.000 I, I, wow, that's a hard point.

01:35:35.000 That one. Yeah.

01:35:36.000 Providing material support to an enemy.

01:35:37.000 Oh, that's right.

01:35:39.000 I mean, at the very least, we need hearings on this.

01:35:42.000 We need an investigation.

01:35:43.000 And just to know who's in control, who's signing off on all this.

01:35:47.000 Yeah, when are they an enemy and when are they an ally?

01:35:49.000 Like, when's the line drawn?

01:35:51.000 Because we never declared war on them.

01:35:52.000 And the other thing, too, is you have the military saying one thing and the intelligence community saying another.

01:35:57.000 So somebody is lying.

01:35:59.000 Or if the communication is that bad, then we still need an investigation to figure out how do we get these two groups to actually talk?

01:36:05.000 All right.

01:36:06.000 The one free man says the past few days have shown us that it is no longer about America and its enemies.

01:36:11.000 It's about the establishment and its enemies.

01:36:13.000 They have forsaken American hostages in Afghanistan in order to pursue their political enemies and secure their power.

01:36:20.000 Wow.

01:36:22.000 Brutal.

01:36:24.000 TheCurlyEfro says military politics is Leviathan.

01:36:28.000 May see Vax's political move by the high ups to get promoted, earn leadership positions by making troops get vaccinated.

01:36:35.000 A corpsman fell helping his Marines and treating the sick and injured in Afghanistan.

01:36:39.000 Til Valhalla.

01:36:44.000 Khinjin says, all of us keyboard warriors need to contact our rep and senators demanding this change.

01:36:51.000 Get involved in your local, state, and federal elections.

01:36:53.000 Stop being the silent majority and get involved.

01:36:56.000 Absolutely.

01:36:58.000 And we have some more treason comments.

01:37:01.000 Trash Panda says, how is this not high treason?

01:37:03.000 Forget impeachment, bring charges of high treason against Biden and his entire administration, including Harris.

01:37:09.000 My guess is because we never declared war on the Taliban, so it's like it's ambiguous if they're even considered enemies at this point.

01:37:14.000 We have a ceasefire with them and we're working with them to get our troops out. 0.75

01:37:20.000 I tell you what, one of the strangest things today, the, I can't remember his name, Army General and Biden, both of them today, We're talking how we've been in regular communication with the Taliban and cooperating with them to help, you know, deal with ISIS and all that.

01:37:35.000 And we sometimes share information with them, but also we can't trust them.

01:37:37.000 I was like, well, you've been how long you've been sharing information with the Taliban and why?

01:37:44.000 That's insane.

01:37:46.000 Even if it's for the effort of trying to root out ISIS, ISIS-K, whatever, why would you ever... What is this enemy of my enemy nonsense?

01:37:52.000 Is that what this is?

01:37:53.000 I think so.

01:37:54.000 I know, because it'll change from day to day who the enemy is.

01:37:57.000 We've been doing this for decades.

01:37:58.000 We arm one group to fight another, then both of them end up coming after us.

01:38:04.000 Same people, man.

01:38:06.000 Alright.

01:38:07.000 DrDoctor says the May 1st deadline might have something to do with being in the middle of Ramadan.

01:38:11.000 Throughout the years, there has been a couple of ceasefires coordinated with the Taliban because of Ramadan.

01:38:16.000 Interesting.

01:38:17.000 Is that when Ramadan is?

01:38:18.000 I have no idea.

01:38:19.000 Because then there's no... Or is that when... Does the Taliban strictly observe combat during Ramadan?

01:38:25.000 I have no idea.

01:38:26.000 I would be surprised if they did.

01:38:27.000 I mean, I wouldn't.

01:38:30.000 If that's what people expect of you.

01:38:31.000 Yeah, Monday the 12th of April is when it started this year.

01:38:34.000 Oh, yeah.

01:38:36.000 And it goes for 10 days, so it was just after Ramadan they were gonna... Alright, let's see. 0.95

01:38:44.000 Oh no, it ends May 12th, so yeah, it was during Ramadan they were gonna... 1.00

01:38:48.000 James Rogers says, comparing Kabul to Saigon is giving into willful ignorance.

01:38:52.000 Saigon fell two years after we pulled out. 1.00

01:38:55.000 Stop feeding stupid. 1.00

01:38:57.000 We lost the peace, not war. 1.00

01:39:00.000 Interesting.

01:39:01.000 No, I've been saying that for weeks.

01:39:02.000 People are like, this is not our Saigon.

01:39:03.000 I'm like, you're right.

01:39:04.000 This is far, far worse than Saigon.

01:39:07.000 Way worse.

01:39:08.000 I mean, not to downplay it, but in comparison, Saigon got off easy compared to what Afghanistan's seeing now. 0.79

01:39:14.000 That's again, not to minimize what happened in Saigon.

01:39:17.000 Here's an important one.

01:39:18.000 KF says Pelosi for president.

01:39:21.000 Oh, God.

01:39:23.000 Geez, I feel like I'm in the boxing ring with whoever just said that to me.

01:39:26.000 It's like, I mean, do I not have any options here?

01:39:30.000 I mean, it's like you can have a bag of broken glass or some starving wolverines.

01:39:35.000 Which one do you want to be locked in a room with?

01:39:36.000 A constitutional convention.

01:39:38.000 It's just a matter of whipping.

01:39:39.000 You need like two more seats.

01:39:40.000 51% of the country.

01:39:41.000 Sorry, Ron Paul.

01:39:43.000 Constitution?

01:39:44.000 Man, I haven't heard about that in a long time.

01:39:46.000 1-2 says, Tim, Glenn raised $20 million in 48 hours.

01:39:49.000 We all donated.

01:39:50.000 This is an absolutely amazing audience.

01:39:52.000 Yes, absolutely.

01:39:52.000 God bless.

01:39:53.000 Everybody working.

01:39:54.000 That's fantastic.

01:39:55.000 Dude, shout out to Glenn Beck, man.

01:39:56.000 He spoke truth to power when he was at Fox News, and I highly recommend go check out his last episode with Fox.

01:40:02.000 Because they fired him for calling out the Federal Reserve and all the people, the bureaucrats that were trading money between the revolving doors.

01:40:09.000 It's incredible.

01:40:10.000 They fired him for it.

01:40:11.000 The next day he got his release and he was no longer Fox.

01:40:14.000 And he started the blaze.

01:40:15.000 He knew he was on his way out.

01:40:16.000 I don't know.

01:40:17.000 I don't think he did.

01:40:18.000 He was like, what?

01:40:18.000 He got red-pilled and told everyone and they were like, no.

01:40:21.000 He'd been on his way out for a while.

01:40:22.000 He'd been wanting to launch his own sort of empire.

01:40:24.000 And then it got to a point where I think he just kind of Jerry Maguire-ed it.

01:40:27.000 Yeah, G. Edward Griffin on the show and then just blew it open.

01:40:31.000 It was awesome.

01:40:32.000 Full disclosure, I used to work for him.

01:40:34.000 So there's that.

01:40:35.000 I see so much respect for that dude.

01:40:37.000 Business editor at The Blaze for a while.

01:40:40.000 He's a true believer.

01:40:42.000 He genuinely believes in his faith and he acts out of it. 1.00

01:40:45.000 Sue Prove says the State Department is stonewalling Beck.

01:40:48.000 They won't give him access to runways.

01:40:50.000 Also, he was warned they had a meeting about him and are looking to destroy him.

01:40:54.000 I hadn't heard that, but I would not be surprised because I was, as we were saying before the show, there was a, I cannot remember her name.

01:40:59.000 I'm drawing a blank.

01:41:00.000 She works for the New York times.

01:41:01.000 She organized two private jets to land and evacuate as many as they could.

01:41:06.000 And they got sent back.

01:41:07.000 I think they were only able to take like a total of four people that could fit hundreds on both of those planes or jets.

01:41:12.000 And they got turned away and she is, she's just beside herself, heartbroken.

01:41:16.000 Yeah.

01:41:17.000 She also raised money to do this.

01:41:20.000 Private enterprise tried to help out and do his part.

01:41:23.000 And a bunch of paper pushers turned him back.

01:41:24.000 That'll be remembered.

01:41:26.000 We have a good question here.

01:41:28.000 Wicked Liss says, Tim, please help me understand why people did not leave months ago when they all knew about the withdrawal.

01:41:35.000 Uh, because unlike the United States Intelligence Service, they had no idea that the Taliban was poised to retake the entire country.

01:41:40.000 Probably.

01:41:41.000 That's my guess.

01:41:41.000 Interesting.

01:41:42.000 I think if there was a general idea that maybe you should get out, you got a family, you got a business, I don't know, maybe, you know, it's a recommendation versus, oh my God, the Taliban now owns the entire country.

01:41:51.000 They've just conquered every major city.

01:41:53.000 And now here we go.

01:41:54.000 And the United States is just Irish combined. 0.93

01:41:57.000 We got this from Arthur Madrigal.

01:42:00.000 He says, FDA approved the vaccine, but it is not available.

01:42:02.000 Is this true?

01:42:03.000 Only the emergency use vaccine available.

01:42:05.000 People have been sending me this.

01:42:07.000 It's not true.

01:42:07.000 Bannon said it.

01:42:09.000 They said there's a letter from the FDA that actually goes into detail about the Comirnaty vaccine and the Pfizer vaccine.

01:42:15.000 People are trying to claim that they're two distinct vaccines.

01:42:19.000 The FDA's website literally says, we are approving the vaccine that was formerly known as the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine, and will now be marketed as Comirnity.

01:42:27.000 And the FDA letter says, Comirnity and the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine are interchangeable and the same thing in the same formulation.

01:42:34.000 And for some reason, people are coming out and claiming it's not true, and I don't know why.

01:42:38.000 It's just, it's wrong.

01:42:39.000 People are emailing me and I'm like, did you guys even read the letter you sent me?

01:42:43.000 It literally says it's the exact same formulation, but under a different name.

01:42:47.000 It's the same thing!

01:42:49.000 Whatever.

01:42:51.000 All right.

01:42:53.000 Stephen Granger says, based on the information being shown, Biden should be forced to resign and be court-martialed.

01:42:58.000 I can also, I don't know if you can court-martial the president, do you?

01:43:00.000 I can also see an argument for having him charged with treason.

01:43:04.000 We'll just put it that way.

01:43:06.000 He is the commander of the U.S.

01:43:07.000 armed forces, but I don't think you can court-martial him.

01:43:09.000 I don't know.

01:43:10.000 That's a good question.

01:43:11.000 I have no idea.

01:43:12.000 Yeah, curious now.

01:43:13.000 I will have to look that up.

01:43:14.000 I think he has to look that up right now.

01:43:17.000 Now you're on a watch list.

01:43:18.000 Cannot be court-martialed, no.

01:43:19.000 According to Quora.com.

01:43:21.000 Yeah, even though you're the commander of the forces... He's considered a civilian, that's why.

01:43:26.000 Right, he's still a civilian.

01:43:27.000 A civilian is commanding the military.

01:43:29.000 What is wrong?

01:43:30.000 No, no, no, that's right.

01:43:30.000 That's great.

01:43:31.000 No, civilian oversight of our U.S.

01:43:32.000 Armed Forces.

01:43:33.000 That's by design.

01:43:33.000 I'm all for that.

01:43:34.000 Which is part of the reason I was so pissed off about General Milley wising off during the Congressional hearing about white rage.

01:43:34.000 Absolutely.

01:43:40.000 He answers to Congress and he was way out of line when he was like, let me, I'm sick of your stupid questions. 1.00

01:43:45.000 I want to understand. 1.00

01:43:46.000 It was like, oh, you, you sit down, you answer to them.

01:43:48.000 And that's very intentional.

01:43:50.000 I, the British seem to have a civilian leader and a military leader that co-run the country together.

01:43:58.000 I think they have the prime minister and then the something else.

01:44:00.000 And that's why we rebelled.

01:44:01.000 And, and like, what's his name?

01:44:04.000 Um, Winston Churchill was the, like the military head of the time, but he wasn't.

01:44:07.000 They have a house of Lords.

01:44:09.000 Yeah.

01:44:09.000 It's pretty messed up, but they have somebody running the domestic area and then someone that knows what they're doing running the military stuff.

01:44:15.000 We've got Biden running the military.

01:44:17.000 We're ideally supposed to have the generals who know what they're doing, but they are all answerable to Congress and the president.

01:44:22.000 They answer to the civilians.

01:44:24.000 And that's strictly by design, basically almost based on how it was done in Rome for a while before the generals took control.

01:44:32.000 But, uh, that's... I like that setup.

01:44:34.000 I want that setup.

01:44:35.000 I don't want the military kind of acting on its own.

01:44:37.000 Especially if you have people like Millie who is now, you know, off on his own doing critical race theories or whatever.

01:44:42.000 Like, no, no, no.

01:44:43.000 You answer to Congress.

01:44:44.000 And you keep your mouth shut unless asked a question.

01:44:46.000 Here's a good one.

01:44:47.000 Not you personally.

01:44:48.000 Well, hey.

01:44:48.000 Sorry.

01:44:49.000 I'm not getting rid of you.

01:44:50.000 John Marafa says, Dr. Steve Turley stopped using the term rhinos and now uses Diablos.

01:44:55.000 Democrats in all but label.

01:44:57.000 Huh.

01:44:58.000 That's good.

01:44:59.000 Well, it's not bad.

01:45:00.000 It just makes me think of the video game, though.

01:45:02.000 Diablo.

01:45:03.000 All right.

01:45:07.000 What is this?

01:45:08.000 The Blank Podcast?

01:45:10.000 The Null Space Podcast with Ian Slater says, Glenn Beck is now the GOAT.

01:45:14.000 Indeed.

01:45:15.000 It's great stuff.

01:45:16.000 Well, hopefully it's working out.

01:45:17.000 I don't know.

01:45:18.000 People are saying he's getting, you know, he's getting blocked or whatever.

01:45:20.000 I wouldn't be surprised.

01:45:21.000 I hope he's not.

01:45:22.000 But this has already happened once, so I wouldn't be surprised if it happened again.

01:45:27.000 The Wolf says, Millie and military are too busy dumping millions in a campaign to make memes and anything not in the SAW BLM agenda extremist in the military. 0.72

01:45:40.000 Crazy. 0.99

01:45:43.000 Joe Lynn Turk says the late Johnny Carson did an entire skit about the loser liar Joe Biden. 1.00

01:45:48.000 Carson straight up called him an idiot and he was absolutely correct. 1.00

01:45:52.000 Yeah, if you needed a reminder how long this guy's been in the game. 0.99

01:45:56.000 But you know, I voted for his character.

01:45:56.000 Right.

01:45:58.000 You've been warned, man.

01:46:00.000 Come on, man.

01:46:02.000 Nipple Sweat says Tim Kennedy brought 400 people onto the airfield.

01:46:06.000 The base commander kicked them out and told Tim this isn't the Tim Kennedy show.

01:46:11.000 What?

01:46:13.000 So you're not allowed to rescue people?

01:46:14.000 They'll just throw you out?

01:46:15.000 I don't have to look that up.

01:46:15.000 I hadn't heard that.

01:46:16.000 Interesting.

01:46:18.000 Crazy.

01:46:20.000 Alright, let's see.

01:46:23.000 Geoffrey Parra says, Beckett, I love your work.

01:46:26.000 Based on what you know, do you think the next conservative president should fire everyone on Mahogany Row at the Pentagon?

01:46:32.000 Also, Ian, is your hair Starfleet regulation length?

01:46:36.000 No, no, no it's not.

01:46:38.000 I think if there's anything that was proven by the Trump administration, I hate the term deep state because people automatically start conjuring up conspiracy theories and all that.

01:46:46.000 But it is absolutely true that there is a large contingent of deeply embedded career bureaucrats who have been there for years, who have a very specific idea of how they want things done, and they will work.

01:46:58.000 And they admit it.

01:46:59.000 They admitted this during the Trump administration.

01:47:01.000 They will work to thwart the president's agenda if they don't like it.

01:47:05.000 Simple as that.

01:47:06.000 That's actually what I think when I think deep state.

01:47:08.000 I don't think that, you know, it's sort of like meeting of the Bilderbergs are going to get together, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

01:47:13.000 Yeah, no, there are career bureaucrats who are like, I don't like this.

01:47:15.000 So we're going to leak to the press.

01:47:17.000 We're going to obscure this or that.

01:47:19.000 I mean, they light general straight up light to Donald, President Trump.

01:47:23.000 When he ordered twice, he ordered saying we're withdrawing from Syria.

01:47:26.000 They lied to him about the numbers to just simply get around not having to withdraw everyone from Syria.

01:47:31.000 That's deep state stuff.

01:47:32.000 And they lied to the American people.

01:47:33.000 They lied to the American people.

01:47:34.000 And then they come out and admit it.

01:47:36.000 And who was that?

01:47:36.000 The guy, anonymous from New York Times, Miles Taylor, straight up admitted, I work in the White House and I am actively thwarting the president's agenda.

01:47:45.000 That happens.

01:47:46.000 This has actually happened with several administrations.

01:47:48.000 So to the question, I think if anything was learned from the last president, yes, someone's going to have to start cleaning house.

01:47:53.000 I don't know how that goes about, what that looks like.

01:47:56.000 It's very hard to remove people once they're embedded.

01:47:58.000 It was what Trump was famous for.

01:48:00.000 Firing people?

01:48:01.000 Firing people.

01:48:02.000 He was terrible at firing people when he was the president though.

01:48:04.000 His tagline is, you're fired, and he couldn't fire anyone around him.

01:48:04.000 I know!

01:48:08.000 It was amazing.

01:48:09.000 In fact, some of the people he promoted were terrible.

01:48:09.000 Yep.

01:48:12.000 Yeah.

01:48:14.000 Elizabeth Carmella Comedian says, when I saw Glenn's stream late last night from the Middle East, I myself donated to the Nazarene Fund.

01:48:20.000 That man is a true patriot.

01:48:22.000 I have so much respect and admiration for him and what he is doing.

01:48:25.000 If you can donate, please do.

01:48:26.000 Yeah, man.

01:48:27.000 I remember I got invited to go on Glenn's show.

01:48:30.000 They flew me out to Texas and sat down and talked to him for quite a bit because we did like a couple different shows in one sitting.

01:48:37.000 Because he's got like the radio show, the podcast, whatever.

01:48:40.000 And I thought it was absolutely fantastic.

01:48:42.000 He's calm, rational, reasonable.

01:48:44.000 We had arguments.

01:48:45.000 We had disagreements.

01:48:46.000 And it ended with a handshake.

01:48:47.000 And he was like, you know, you did great work.

01:48:49.000 I was like, yeah, it was absolutely fantastic.

01:48:51.000 Big fan of Glenn.

01:48:52.000 He's a great guy.

01:48:54.000 He's a hell of a showman.

01:48:55.000 Oh yeah, definitely.

01:48:56.000 And they have this massive movie studio.

01:48:59.000 Yeah, it's crazy.

01:49:01.000 He considers himself, well he doesn't consider himself, he has very intentionally modeled himself after Orson Welles.

01:49:07.000 He wants to be a sort of auteur, renaissance man, bringing back various arts and stuff.

01:49:14.000 He loves Orson Welles, like adores Orson Welles, and he intentionally, he named it Mercury Radio Arts after Orson Welles' own production studio, which was Mercury.

01:49:23.000 Yeah, he just loves the man.

01:49:25.000 And he loves Walt Disney.

01:49:29.000 Sunny James says, the only reason America won the revolution was because the British public wasn't interested in funding it.

01:49:35.000 Despite what Hollywood narratives tell us, it wasn't because we fought the greatest revolution ever.

01:49:40.000 Scares me as this admin focused on us.

01:49:44.000 We won the revolution for a lot of reasons.

01:49:46.000 Yeah, there were several factors.

01:49:48.000 But I think the French was probably one of the biggest.

01:49:50.000 It was a huge one.

01:49:51.000 Because what actually happened is that the conflict in the colonies was essentially more war for the British when they were already at war in Europe.

01:49:58.000 They couldn't handle it.

01:49:59.000 Oh God. 0.99

01:50:00.000 It was also King George had lost his friggin' mind and was a horrible commander-in-chief at the time. 0.99

01:50:05.000 Yeah, he was going insane at the time. 0.99

01:50:05.000 Really? 0.99

01:50:07.000 That was actually a huge issue.

01:50:08.000 That was engulfing a lot of British politics at the time and was very distracting to the overall war effort.

01:50:15.000 The British had no stomach for a war in the Americas.

01:50:17.000 Turnabout is fair play.

01:50:18.000 Let them go.

01:50:19.000 Turnabout is fair play.

01:50:22.000 We're getting slapped in the face by karma.

01:50:25.000 I'm kidding.

01:50:25.000 I'm mostly kidding.

01:50:27.000 I can't speak to Biden's mental health.

01:50:29.000 I'm not a doctor.

01:50:30.000 He's not my patient.

01:50:31.000 But history rhymes.

01:50:32.000 And if there was a revolution today in the United States and we had Biden as the commander trying to preserve the union, preserve the union, your main job.

01:50:40.000 Oh, God.

01:50:41.000 Pardon those people.

01:50:41.000 Can you imagine an American Civil War with Biden?

01:50:44.000 It would be, it would be terrible.

01:50:46.000 May you live an interesting time.

01:50:48.000 At least Abe Lincoln, that's a curse, was obsessed with preserving the Union.

01:50:52.000 You just cursed me.

01:50:54.000 All right.

01:50:55.000 Jasper says, Tim, please look into the Ezekiel 38 prophecy.

01:50:59.000 We may be seeing it take shape in real time.

01:51:01.000 The stage is being set.

01:51:02.000 The players are moving into place.

01:51:04.000 We are really living in unprecedented, unprecedented times.

01:51:07.000 Interesting.

01:51:08.000 Unprecedented for America.

01:51:10.000 I wouldn't say it's unprecedented in world history.

01:51:13.000 I mean, far worse has happened to far greater, far larger civilizations.

01:51:19.000 Generally, though, in the longer span of time, it seems like we have very quickly learned how to Yeah, airplanes changes a lot because you literally get microchips.

01:51:27.000 Microchips.

01:51:28.000 That's the game changer.

01:51:29.000 Plastic.

01:51:30.000 A lot of it.

01:51:30.000 Invest in plastics.

01:51:33.000 LMV says, Tim, I live in New Zealand.

01:51:35.000 Our prime minister did a press conference on the attack in Kabul and was super cryptic saying that New Zealand will be part of an attack or invasion of Afghanistan.

01:51:43.000 Oh my god.

01:51:44.000 OK, so maybe it was intentional.

01:51:46.000 With what troops?

01:51:46.000 I thought they were all locked up in New Zealand.

01:51:48.000 New Zealand has troops?

01:51:50.000 They do.

01:51:51.000 No, no, they're great.

01:51:52.000 They work closely with us in a lot of the coalition efforts.

01:51:56.000 Keep me commandos.

01:51:57.000 I love New Zealanders.

01:51:58.000 Yeah.

01:51:59.000 Biden said, we will, you know, we will hunt you down.

01:52:02.000 And to me, I was just like, Oh, is that him saying like, we're going to be sending in troops to reinvade Afghanistan now?

01:52:08.000 We've already put in more than double the troops into Afghanistan now than we had earlier this year.

01:52:13.000 And then they're hoping everyone will forget about it.

01:52:15.000 The news will start talking about other things, and then they'll be quietly deploying more and more soldiers to Afghanistan.

01:52:21.000 Amazing, isn't it?

01:52:23.000 I mean, at some point, this is going to sap the will from the actual armed forces.

01:52:26.000 Like, what do you do?

01:52:26.000 You're going to actually have to talk about morale in the U.S.

01:52:29.000 military.

01:52:30.000 I can't imagine it's doing well.

01:52:33.000 I can imagine that this is going to have a long-term hit on it.

01:52:36.000 That'll take some years to recover.

01:52:39.000 I'm not saying it's all going to fall apart and people are going to abandon their posts or whatever, but we need to make sure we look at this before.

01:52:44.000 I don't know.

01:52:46.000 It's coming up on 800,000 military servicemen weren't vaccinated.

01:52:50.000 I think it was 1.4 million total.

01:52:52.000 800,000 of them have had yet to be vaccinated as of like yesterday or day before, and they're going to force it by, well, I don't know what the date is that they said the 31st, four days from now, five days from now.

01:53:01.000 So that's another, and if they don't want to do it, you know, talk about morale.

01:53:04.000 Rory Shively with eight clown face emojis.

01:53:09.000 That's about where I'm at.

01:53:10.000 He's a funny guy.

01:53:13.000 All right.

01:53:13.000 Brian Knowles says you said Bagram Air Base seemed intentional.

01:53:16.000 I've been thinking the same thing.

01:53:17.000 Every common sense thing to do done backwards.

01:53:20.000 Biden wrote the first Patriot Act, maybe arming terrorists.

01:53:24.000 Oh, I don't know.

01:53:26.000 I mean, to the conversation we were having about the riot and holding the rioters and all that.

01:53:31.000 I mean, we, we've been saying, Oh, what was it for the war on terror?

01:53:36.000 You know, what did we get out of it?

01:53:37.000 Well, we got one thing.

01:53:38.000 We got an explosion of the surveillance state on us.

01:53:41.000 So that's great.

01:53:42.000 Now the government, as we know, not just the American government, governments in general do like pretenses to get more control.

01:53:48.000 What does Afghanistan do?

01:53:49.000 Does that give people more control?

01:53:50.000 Does it give them less?

01:53:52.000 The media is going to go full gung-ho with like Biden is a true president once he starts sending in the troops and once all these other countries start bolstering troops.

01:54:01.000 He's going to rescue them from Trump's botched escape plan.

01:54:04.000 I don't know.

01:54:05.000 I think a lot of people are underestimating how sapped a lot of Americans feel after this of 20 years.

01:54:10.000 I don't think we talk about we're going to put more troops and they do it quietly like you were saying that's one thing but a big grand we got to do this America I don't there's not going to be support people don't want it.

01:54:20.000 I don't want it.

01:54:20.000 No, but the media will say they do.

01:54:22.000 And the polls will come out, and the polls will ask very, like, funny questions like, do you think it would be bad if babies are killed in Afghanistan? 0.97

01:54:30.000 And they say, yes, I do.

01:54:31.000 Like, they support the war.

01:54:32.000 Yeah, with a sampling size of like 130 people.

01:54:34.000 Right?

01:54:35.000 98% of Americans!

01:54:36.000 All from D.C.

01:54:37.000 on, like, K Street.

01:54:40.000 The average income, you look it up, it's like $486,000 a year.

01:54:45.000 Who are these people that are polling?

01:54:47.000 We surveyed 130 defense contractors.

01:54:49.000 The average job is Halliburton and Boeing.

01:54:51.000 Yeah, man.

01:54:52.000 There's so much money.

01:54:53.000 Do you want to deploy more Americans to go fight and nation-build? 0.89

01:54:56.000 I don't think so.

01:54:57.000 100% yes.

01:54:58.000 We polled one guy.

01:54:58.000 It's the CEO of Lockheed.

01:55:01.000 No, but it's like if there's no will for it, Americans are actually opposed to it.

01:55:04.000 That comes back to the voting booth.

01:55:06.000 You saw that in Syria, man.

01:55:08.000 It comes back to the voting booth.

01:55:09.000 People shut that down. 0.65

01:55:10.000 What is Biden?

01:55:11.000 You think Biden's going to get a second term?

01:55:13.000 I don't think he's going to last his first term.

01:55:14.000 So Biden can come in and be like, I deploy 100,000!

01:55:20.000 Troops!

01:55:21.000 You know, they didn't get the vaccine to go to Afghanistan!

01:55:24.000 And then Americans are gonna be like, get him out, get him out.

01:55:27.000 No one will have the will to do it.

01:55:28.000 Republicans will sit on their hands.

01:55:29.000 Come 2024, they'll vote for someone else and go, yay!

01:55:32.000 And then we'll have three years of troops in the Middle East.

01:55:33.000 But you're forgetting 2022, which Democrats are terrified of.

01:55:36.000 I don't know if they want to do anything.

01:55:40.000 I'm just saying, if there's one thing both parties love, it's holding power and gaining more power.

01:55:44.000 And if they know they're going to get wiped out on a landslide in 2022, I think they, they won't go.

01:55:48.000 What are the Republicans going to do?

01:55:50.000 Well, that's always, they're going to get in and go and then they're all going to get in and they're going to have the house.

01:55:55.000 And then Kevin McCarthy is going to be like, slow down there Democrats.

01:55:58.000 And then Mitch McConnell is going to be like, slow down there Democrats.

01:56:02.000 And that's all they're going to do.

01:56:03.000 Nah, I disagree.

01:56:06.000 McCarthy, yes.

01:56:07.000 I'm generally I'm generally supportive of McConnell.

01:56:10.000 I have been impressed with he's he's a master parliamentarian and he has made so many gains in the judiciary.

01:56:15.000 I think people always sell him a little short.

01:56:18.000 The problem with conservatives is that they're Imagine you're playing a game of football and you tell your team to run to the end zone and defend it from there.

01:56:31.000 And then the other team is like, okay, and they casually walk to the red zone.

01:56:35.000 It's like, why would you let them do that?

01:56:37.000 That's Republicans.

01:56:39.000 They don't fight on the cultural issues that shape our country.

01:56:43.000 They think, if we just get a judge, we're fine.

01:56:45.000 Okay, then, congratulations.

01:56:47.000 Because in ten years, all the judges are gonna be ultra-woke, and you're gonna be like, well, this one's only a little woke.

01:56:51.000 Because you're not actually doing anything to defend your values or fight back.

01:56:55.000 I mean, I don't know if I would blame McConnell for that explicitly.

01:56:59.000 I mean, you can only blame him so much if the people he gets through aren't very good.

01:57:02.000 He's still gotten through the best of the crop.

01:57:05.000 But the thing I will say that you're absolutely right on is that social issues have long been put in the back burner and stuff like the Republican Party has basically tolerated pro-lifers since Roe v. Wade as just a necessary part of the coalition.

01:57:18.000 They don't care what they think or what they believe.

01:57:20.000 Yep.

01:57:21.000 They haven't tried anything to like over... I remember this.

01:57:24.000 During the election.

01:57:26.000 Democrats are coming out demanding universal health care and a Green New Deal.

01:57:28.000 What are Republicans demanding?

01:57:30.000 Tax cuts.

01:57:32.000 Same thing.

01:57:32.000 I mean, look at what the infrastructure bill.

01:57:34.000 That's not even gonna get held up.

01:57:36.000 Geez, six trillion?

01:57:38.000 Four.

01:57:39.000 Four, I believe.

01:57:40.000 It was one separate two bills, two separate bills, 1.2 and 3.5.

01:57:43.000 So upwards of five trillion.

01:57:46.000 Because we have that money.

01:57:47.000 What was the 6 trillion number that got knocked around yesterday?

01:57:49.000 I mean, maybe it got revised upwards.

01:57:51.000 Did they add any writers to it?

01:57:52.000 I don't know, I don't know.

01:57:54.000 They just put anything.

01:57:55.000 Make it 10! 0.88

01:57:56.000 This is interesting right here.

01:57:57.000 Cryptic says the Supreme Court just overruled the eviction ban.

01:58:00.000 I had seen that actually Kavanaugh wrote the opinion on it.

01:58:03.000 I haven't had a chance to read it though.

01:58:05.000 Did he write, F you Biden, I already said this, why am I saying it twice?

01:58:10.000 Because Biden doesn't remember the first time.

01:58:12.000 And so if the Supreme Court can say, this is illegal, and Biden says, I'll do it again, what's to stop him from just doing it again?

01:58:18.000 Again and again.

01:58:21.000 You know, what enforcement mechanisms are there?

01:58:23.000 Supreme Court doesn't have any.

01:58:23.000 They just take him back to the court.

01:58:24.000 I mean, the president already said once, he's like, that'll get sorted out in the court in a couple of months.

01:58:29.000 But until then, people will be safe.

01:58:31.000 I'm like, so legislation by tangling things up in the judiciary, like that's not a way to legislate.

01:58:37.000 I think what it really means is that if you are a landlord in any capacity, you can now just disregard the illegal decrees from the president because they have no merit in the country.

01:58:46.000 And if you have to go to court, you'd win.

01:58:48.000 Because you're going to be like, here's the Supreme Court, your honor is going to go... Going to court?

01:58:52.000 How long is that going to take?

01:58:53.000 Yep.

01:58:54.000 A lot of people don't have that time.

01:58:56.000 I think it basically just means you can ignore Biden's fake eviction, illegal eviction, man.

01:59:00.000 Yeah, but what do you tell the squatters?

01:59:04.000 You'll kick him out, what do you mean?

01:59:05.000 I mean, what happens is he doesn't know.

01:59:06.000 The president's on my side, he says I can stay.

01:59:09.000 You call the police?

01:59:11.000 But what law are the police enforcing?

01:59:13.000 You're evicting them.

01:59:14.000 I know, but if the president has already put a moratorium on that.

01:59:16.000 Supreme Court has already said it doesn't exist.

01:59:18.000 But then the president does it again.

01:59:20.000 I mean, that's why I'm asking, like, what's the enforcement mechanism?

01:59:23.000 Well, it's an issue of whether or not the police are anarcho-tyrannists, and I'd imagine they are.

01:59:28.000 In which case, the cops are gonna go to you and go, sorry, I can't help you.

01:59:31.000 But then, rest assured, if you try to do anything to defend your property, they'll arrest you on the spot.

01:59:36.000 Probably.

01:59:37.000 Yep, abolish the police!

01:59:39.000 That's right.

01:59:40.000 All right, let's see.

01:59:43.000 Jessica Cora says, we left hundreds of portable biometric scanners with the fingerprint and eye scans of over 50,000 Afghanistan military officials.

01:59:51.000 Whoa.

01:59:51.000 That's true.

01:59:52.000 You've heard that, right?

01:59:52.000 Yeah.

01:59:53.000 We were documenting and recording everything about the Afghans we worked with and the Taliban got all that information.

01:59:59.000 Fingerprints, eye scans, everything.

02:00:01.000 Cool.

02:00:02.000 Yeah, a lot of people are mentioning that SCOTUS has lifted the eviction moratorium.

02:00:05.000 But like I said, like we were saying, I don't know if it matters because Biden illegally did it in the first place.

02:00:10.000 Why does the Supreme Court need to say it twice?

02:00:13.000 Right.

02:00:13.000 That's the thing that I didn't get.

02:00:14.000 The Supreme Court really didn't even say it the first time.

02:00:17.000 They said it twice.

02:00:19.000 But this is where I get into this weird area of like, wait a minute, the Supreme Court, there's usually this assumption that the Supreme Court ruled and that's that.

02:00:24.000 Now they've done it twice.

02:00:25.000 To your point, what happens if Biden comes back another time and says, well, no.

02:00:29.000 They tweak it a little bit.

02:00:30.000 That's what Cuomo was doing.

02:00:31.000 He'll tweak it a little bit.

02:00:33.000 He'll say, oh, now we're going to do an eviction suspension.

02:00:37.000 So you can file the eviction, but it can't be enforced for six months.

02:00:42.000 It's so funny how fast they turn from no rule, no law of the land to More like a guideline on the land.

02:00:48.000 More like guidelines.

02:00:49.000 Alright, let's see.

02:00:55.000 Christopher Bell says, will you have someone that's on the other side of your argument, like Dan Crenshaw?

02:00:59.000 We'd love to have Dan Crenshaw.

02:01:00.000 But you know the big challenges with getting politicians on the show?

02:01:03.000 Every time we hit up one of these politicians, they're like, oh, we're fans, we'd love to come on the show, or, oh, definitely, it'd be great.

02:01:09.000 Send an email to this person, and we'll set it up.

02:01:12.000 And then we do!

02:01:13.000 And then the person doesn't respond back, or responds back with like, yeah, we'll figure out the dates.

02:01:18.000 And then they never respond back.

02:01:19.000 Sounds like American politics.

02:01:20.000 The waste of time.

02:01:21.000 What do they mean on the other side?

02:01:22.000 Like someone who's pro-state in Afghanistan?

02:01:24.000 Yes.

02:01:25.000 Oh, is he necessarily pro-stay in Afghanistan?

02:01:27.000 I think he is.

02:01:28.000 I thought he just wanted a small residual force security.

02:01:31.000 Right, small residual force, I think.

02:01:32.000 Like Syria. 0.98

02:01:33.000 And, but I actually have said that myself, like, I think we should have never gone into Afghanistan, but if we have, because we've had people on the show who have said this, we need a small, we need commanders, intelligence, logistics, but a very small group with drone support, and we're done.

02:01:47.000 And I'm like, I'll take that.

02:01:49.000 If it prevents this, if it means we're getting all of our troops out, we're not going to waste time on this, but we'll have to keep a little bit.

02:01:54.000 I'll draw it down substantially.

02:01:55.000 I like the sound of that.

02:01:57.000 It's so crazy to remember or to think in terms of everything that's happening now, that at the height of the Iraq war and even to the lead up to Obama withdrawing from Iraq, Afghanistan was always the good war, the justified war. 0.94

02:02:09.000 And now here we are.

02:02:11.000 Man, I don't know, but I will tell you this.

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02:02:50.000 My mom?

02:02:50.000 I don't know.

02:02:52.000 You want to shout out your mom?

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02:03:00.000 Some nice self-promotion right there.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - August 26, 2021

Timcast IRL - 13 American Troops Lose Their Lives In Kabul Attack, Biden Vows Revenge w-Becket Adams

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