Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Alex Jones Must Pay $2.75 TRILLION Demand Families In Lawsuit w-Austin Petersen

00:00:00.000 The families in the lawsuit against Alex Jones are demanding $2.75 trillion, which is just

00:00:23.000 about the GDP of France from one guy, Alex Jones.

00:00:30.000 Because what?

00:00:31.000 It's just, you know, we're in wacky WALL-E world levels of nonsense.

00:00:36.000 The children are in charge.

00:00:38.000 Nothing makes sense. 0.99

00:00:39.000 This is ridiculous.

00:00:41.000 Maybe Alex Jones will appeal and this will actually get resolved, but I kind of just feel like the whole system is imploding. 0.80

00:00:46.000 Like, the children are- the inmates are running the asylum.

00:00:50.000 The next story that we'll be talking about is Steve Bannon getting four months in prison for contempt of Congress, which, once again, I mean, it's a question of the Constitution and executive privilege, and there's an argument to be made over an administrative issue to sentence the man to prison, I find silly, but he's not going to prison pending appeal, so we'll see how all of that plays out.

00:01:12.000 We'll talk about that, plus there's this viral story, the guy in Waukesha who rammed all those innocent people.

00:01:18.000 Oh boy, when you see how the media is writing about this guy, a weeping man with two sides to every story.

00:01:24.000 There's a viral meme going around where when it was Kyle Rittenhouse, they mocked and belittled him.

00:01:28.000 But when it's this guy, they're like, well, two sides to every story.

00:01:31.000 He weeps.

00:01:32.000 We'll talk about all that.

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00:03:35.000 Joining us tonight to talk about all this and more is Austin Peterson.

00:03:39.000 Thanks for having me back, guys.

00:03:40.000 Who are you?

00:03:41.000 I'm the host of the Wake Up America show, a lifelong Missourian, and yeah, just a freedom fighter, all around libertarian, hardcore, You know, fighter for truth, justice, and the American way.

00:03:53.000 Just like Superman.

00:03:53.000 Hey, right on.

00:03:54.000 Thanks for hanging out.

00:03:55.000 We also got Luke Rudkowski.

00:03:55.000 This should be fun.

00:03:57.000 Oh, great.

00:03:58.000 It's the guy who says you can't sell heroin to a five-year-old.

00:04:01.000 Boo! 0.98

00:04:04.000 You party pooper. 0.71

00:04:06.000 Anyway, my name's Luke Rudkowski.

00:04:08.000 I have to say that.

00:04:09.000 I'm sorry.

00:04:09.000 No, it's alright.

00:04:10.000 It's alright.

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00:04:26.000 Because you do, I'm here.

00:04:27.000 Thank you again so much for having me.

00:04:28.000 It's Ian Crossland in the house, your favorite free software advocate.

00:04:31.000 Austin, great to see you again, as always, man.

00:04:33.000 Love you, brother.

00:04:34.000 And Luke.

00:04:34.000 Thanks, dude.

00:04:35.000 Nice t-shirt.

00:04:35.000 Thank you.

00:04:36.000 What's going on, Serge?

00:04:37.000 Hey, guys.

00:04:38.000 Serge.com.

00:04:38.000 Can't remember that easily.

00:04:39.000 I'm still going to be here pushing the buttons, as always.

00:04:42.000 All right.

00:04:43.000 Here's a story from Bloomberg.

00:04:45.000 Sandy Hook families seek $2.75 trillion from Alex Jones.

00:04:51.000 Jury already awarded families $965 million in damages.

00:04:57.000 Judge to decide damages under state deceptive trade law.

00:05:00.000 Oh, this is fascinating.

00:05:01.000 So basically, they're seeking what?

00:05:03.000 Just about 3,000 times what they were awarded from the jury.

00:05:08.000 $2.75 trillion.

00:05:10.000 Let's put that into context.

00:05:11.000 Here is a list of countries by GDP.

00:05:14.000 You can see here U.S.

00:05:16.000 dollars in the trillions, France 2.77, Canada 2.2.

00:05:21.000 So, Alex Jones' lawsuit falls somewhere in between Canada and France in terms of gross domestic product. 1.00

00:05:28.000 That's how stupid we have become as a people. 1.00

00:05:31.000 I'm ashamed because, look, I'm worried the aliens are watching us, and boy is this embarrassing if they are. 0.99

00:05:38.000 You know, there was this story we talked about the other day that claimed Putin had already tried to fire a nuke, but that sabotage or technical issues caused it not to fire, and I'm like, well, the only solution to that, the only answer as to why it's happening is aliens, you know?

00:05:54.000 As soon as he pressed the button, the aliens deactivated.

00:05:56.000 Well, that's the conspiracy theory, right?

00:05:57.000 That aliens stopped us from firing nukes? 0.98

00:05:59.000 I'm just saying, The whole world, everything that humanity is, we are becoming a clown show. 1.00

00:06:06.000 That's how stupid this is, so. 1.00

00:06:07.000 I think we can take this back, you know, we can end this easily. 0.99

00:06:10.000 Going back to late 1700s, Congress shall make no law abridging freedom of speech.

00:06:15.000 Now back in those days, That only applied to Congress, right?

00:06:18.000 But after the Civil War, we passed this thing called the 14th Amendment says the states now shall make no law abridging the freedom of speech.

00:06:25.000 So all of the privileges and immunities of free speech that were guaranteed in the Constitution applied to people like Alex Jones.

00:06:33.000 There's modern jurisprudence as well that backs this up the Supreme Court case that you're going to want to look To reference this is Brandenburg versus Ohio.

00:06:41.000 This was back in the 1960s Which says that if there's a matter of public interest or an event of public interest if you have an opinion about that event That is free speech.

00:06:51.000 So this Connecticut judge has essentially invalidated, you know jurisprudence which has been You know, repeatedly upheld since the 1960s.

00:07:00.000 This Brandenburg case has been tried and tested and has been settled, settled case law.

00:07:06.000 So Alex Jones, I think, goes to the Supreme Court and wins.

00:07:11.000 I don't think it gets tossed out on appeal.

00:07:13.000 I think it goes to the Supreme Court and I think that they look at the Brandenburg case and then they throw this out entirely.

00:07:19.000 Let me read this from the story.

00:07:20.000 It says, The family said they're entitled to that amount, $2.75 trillion, because Jones broke a state law barring the sale of products using false statements.

00:07:29.000 They reached the sum by multiplying the state law's $5,000 per violation fine by the 550 million social media exposures Jones' audience received on his Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter accounts in the three years following the San Diego incident.

00:07:45.000 Literally makes no sense.

00:07:46.000 The judge made a huge mistake.

00:07:48.000 But in this regard, Alex Jones did not do... Maybe I'm wrong, okay?

00:07:53.000 But I'm pretty sure he didn't do commercials where he held up his product and was like, I just want to talk about, you know, a tragic event by my product.

00:07:59.000 And also that event was not real.

00:08:01.000 Like, I'm pretty sure his commercials were entirely separate statements.

00:08:04.000 It would be like if You know, we have Biotrust sponsors the show as if they would be liable because I make a claim about Joe Biden on the show and that's selling the product.

00:08:13.000 That's nonsense.

00:08:15.000 The law is supposed to be, if I said something like, you know, this water keeps tigers away, $100 Ian, you want to buy it?

00:08:22.000 I don't see any tigers, do you?

00:08:24.000 That's clearly, right?

00:08:25.000 That's what they're trying to go for.

00:08:26.000 Opinions are always protected free speech, and that's Alex Jones' opinion that that happened.

00:08:30.000 And so as long as it was a clearly stated opinion about a public event, he's protected.

00:08:35.000 So he's never gonna have to pay this money.

00:08:37.000 I mean, obviously, you know, you guys were talking about it getting thrown out on appeal, but I think that this goes through the legislative process, goes to the Supreme Court, they cite Brandenburg, and then it gets tossed out.

00:08:47.000 But, you know, the left is celebrating this now as if they're going to go after all these other people like you and me and Kanye and others and stuff.

00:08:54.000 I don't think that happens, not with the Supreme Court the way that it sits right now.

00:08:57.000 When he made a statement and named one of the parents and said that they were lying, that crosses the line as no longer opinion.

00:09:04.000 Is that true?

00:09:05.000 No.

00:09:06.000 No, so here's the crazy thing.

00:09:08.000 If I said something like, Ian Crosland is a conservative commentator who actively assists fascists, and I've seen him do it, that's an opinion.

00:09:19.000 If I said, I've watched Ian Crosland walk up to a group of fascists and provide aid and support to them, that's an opinion.

00:09:27.000 Because what people need to understand is that I've talked with lawyers so many times about defamation and stuff like this.

00:09:33.000 People seem to think that claiming someone did something is a statement of fact when it's not.

00:09:37.000 But what about if I... you said Ian Crosland said he was 43 years old and he is lying.

00:09:42.000 So if you... so the statement of fact is that you said you were 43 years old.

00:09:46.000 Did you?

00:09:47.000 Yes.

00:09:48.000 Okay.

00:09:48.000 Whether you're lying or not is my opinion.

00:09:50.000 Whether you said you were 43 is fact.

00:09:53.000 So if I said, for instance, a conservative commentator, Ian Crossland, said that if young folks, if we get rid of no-fault divorce, young folks would be more careful about who they marry.

00:10:06.000 Did you really say that?

00:10:08.000 Because I made a statement of fact and a quote.

00:10:10.000 Like Jezebel.

00:10:11.000 So for those that aren't familiar, this is literally what Jezebel did to Ian.

00:10:14.000 This is a false statement of fact outright and it is actionable.

00:10:19.000 The next question is damages.

00:10:20.000 Were you damaged by it?

00:10:21.000 How much does it cost?

00:10:22.000 Well, we had one user tell us the other day they were going to give us a thousand bucks a month for 84 years.

00:10:27.000 But then they found out Ian was conservative, so they're not gonna.

00:10:28.000 So we'll have to look into that.

00:10:30.000 Sue for $2.75 trillion?

00:10:31.000 That's right, $2.75 trillion.

00:10:32.000 All the marks of people that have watched the show ever and thought of me in their head now multiplied by... Come on.

00:10:39.000 So the issue with this is that Alex Jones never had a trial.

00:10:42.000 That's what happened. 0.99

00:10:44.000 If he did, they would have been like, it's an opinion, albeit you might think it's a really stupid one, but it is. 0.98

00:10:51.000 The judge granted discovery, which makes no sense. 0.89

00:10:54.000 I mean, she should have immediately ruled it as a free speech issue, but you know, she's obviously stepped into

00:10:58.000 this on the political side.

00:11:00.000 A lot of people think, and I agree, Alex should not have said stuff like this. 0.92

00:11:05.000 It's clearly ridiculous, but he's allowed to.

00:11:08.000 You know, Ethan Klein got suspended from YouTube the other day for the comments he made about Ben Shapiro getting gassed. 0.65

00:11:14.000 We said it on the show that night.

00:11:15.000 He should not get suspended.

00:11:16.000 That was before he did.

00:11:17.000 And then I said it again.

00:11:18.000 He got suspended.

00:11:19.000 He shouldn't be.

00:11:20.000 He should be allowed to say that.

00:11:21.000 Someone superchatted already that, like, I'm criticizing Kanye West for saying, you know, Well, I don't know if we're supposed to say it on the show, because someone said the R word or whatever.

00:11:28.000 But I'm like, you know, I said Kanye shouldn't.

00:11:32.000 I didn't say he should be banned from doing it.

00:11:34.000 Right.

00:11:34.000 But what about the defamation case?

00:11:35.000 Now, in your opinion, what should somebody not be able to say?

00:11:39.000 Like, when they can prove damages by what someone said, when they're not a public figure, right?

00:11:43.000 Well, so I understand the public figure thing, and it's tough.

00:11:48.000 Right?

00:11:49.000 If we're looking at someone who is a politician or a celebrity and they're active in public life and we have an argument with them, I understand why we have the Times v. Sullivan precedent that there's a higher standard for public figures.

00:12:04.000 For people who aren't public figures, who aren't involved in this stuff, I understand why that standard isn't there.

00:12:09.000 So it is difficult.

00:12:11.000 My view of this is like, what really should have happened is that they sue Alex Jones and said, you've made false statements about this.

00:12:18.000 Alex Jones pays in the thousands and has to issue an apology, a retraction.

00:12:23.000 I think one big solution for a lot of these things is a retraction and apology, but the courts don't ever enforce that.

00:12:29.000 Alex already did issue a lot of apologies.

00:12:32.000 No, I know.

00:12:33.000 But YouTube deleted all those videos and there's no record of it.

00:12:35.000 Right.

00:12:36.000 There's not a lot of records that he could comply with and this is one of the reasons why, of course, they just threw out the court case and he didn't have his day in court.

00:12:42.000 They just decided he was guilty, said he wasn't complying.

00:12:45.000 Maybe he was, maybe he wasn't.

00:12:46.000 We don't know the full story of exactly what was happening behind the scenes here.

00:12:49.000 But I don't know, maybe these families confused Alex Jones with the Federal Reserve and think he could just print money out of thin air.

00:12:54.000 And it's just a ridiculous notion to ask for trillions of dollars.

00:12:58.000 It shows you how frivolous this is and how it's politically motivated rather than motivated on the actual merits of this case.

00:13:05.000 Yeah, I think the strong possibility goes to the Supreme Court. 0.85

00:13:09.000 They might just say they don't want to hear it, but I think they probably would because this is kind of ridiculous. 0.76

00:13:12.000 So here's my understanding.

00:13:14.000 We went down to Austin, I think it was a year ago, and this was when Jones was, right around the time he was held in default, or they declared a default judgment because he didn't turn over all the documents.

00:13:28.000 Alex, I was talking to him and he said, we've given them every single thing we have.

00:13:32.000 There's nothing else we can give them.

00:13:33.000 And he was like frantically and adamant being like, Tim, listen, I gave them literally everything.

00:13:37.000 I don't know what else to do.

00:13:39.000 And they just kept saying he didn't.

00:13:40.000 Yeah.

00:13:41.000 So like, what do you do when they just claim you didn't give them the documents and you did?

00:13:44.000 He's in Chapter 11, which means that in Texas, he's still gonna be able to operate.

00:13:48.000 He's got like less than $3 million in assets.

00:13:51.000 They don't have to liquidate.

00:13:52.000 He can still keep his employees.

00:13:53.000 He can still operationally.

00:13:54.000 But what they've promised is all the future profits from InfoWars and all that.

00:13:59.000 Which there never will be.

00:14:00.000 Let me explain something to anybody who just doesn't understand how businesses work.

00:14:00.000 Right.

00:14:04.000 Profits are a choice.

00:14:06.000 It's a choice.

00:14:06.000 That's it.

00:14:08.000 So they may try and say, okay, we're gonna find out where you are right now.

00:14:14.000 And we're going to say, here's a cap as to how much you can use for operational costs, but that probably won't fly because it makes no sense because costs vary.

00:14:22.000 So, for Alex, let's say he makes $3 million this year.

00:14:26.000 I was probably way more a while ago.

00:14:28.000 Let's just pick a number.

00:14:29.000 Let's say $10 million.

00:14:30.000 Okay, fine.

00:14:31.000 They say, okay, you made $10 million.

00:14:35.000 That is revenue, not profit.

00:14:38.000 Alex can then take, let's say it costs him $3 million to run the business, he can then spend $7 million on advertisements all over the country, and that is an operational cost.

00:14:45.000 He can just choose to dump it into things.

00:14:48.000 He can buy more machines, he can build a bigger warehouse, he can build a bigger studio, and just keep spending the money.

00:14:53.000 They will never see a penny.

00:14:55.000 Yeah, this looks right.

00:14:56.000 This was a political judgment.

00:14:58.000 It's not a legal precedent that's set.

00:15:00.000 It's going to get overturned.

00:15:02.000 You know, Alex Jones will continue to be able to operate in Texas.

00:15:05.000 So, honestly, I think that probably everybody benefits from this in the end.

00:15:09.000 Because when it does go to the Supreme Court and they do uphold the Brandenburg precedent, people like you and I are going to be benefiting from that.

00:15:16.000 We're going to get the Alex Jones precedent.

00:15:18.000 And then we're gonna be like, did you see that court case between, you know, Ethan Klein and Ben Shapiro?

00:15:23.000 Well, well, under the Jones- Alex Jones precedent, they're gonna have to- They're gonna hate that so much.

00:15:28.000 They're like, we gotta keep bringing up the man's name that we banned everywhere on social media?

00:15:34.000 In Jones v- so, um, this is what happened in Mississippi with the abortion ban. 0.51

00:15:40.000 It was what, 11 weeks or something?

00:15:42.000 Then the left sued to stop it, and it resulted in Roe v. Wade getting overturned.

00:15:47.000 They could've just said, hey, let's not launch any lawsuits until we get control of the Supreme Court to keep this level, but they decided we're gonna go at this and try and fight it.

00:15:57.000 Makes it to the Supreme Court, Supreme Court says, nope, Roe v. Wade gone.

00:16:00.000 Yeah, see, this is why I don't take the black pill, man.

00:16:02.000 I am so on the white pill train, because over the long course of history, liberty has advanced. 0.86

00:16:08.000 If you look at things on a long enough timeline, sure, have we lost some short-term victories?

00:16:12.000 Sure.

00:16:13.000 But the libertarians have slowly made, gotten the big wins.

00:16:16.000 Roe v. Wade was a big one.

00:16:18.000 That was ignored.

00:16:18.000 That happened last, the first time I was on the show last time.

00:16:21.000 And the anarchists and the people who want to be left alone, we would see things a little bit differently.

00:16:25.000 But you do make a very good point, because especially when it comes to states' rights, especially when it comes to gun rights, we have seen it grow in a way that the federal government has been having a hard time trying to, of course, stop.

00:16:36.000 You look at states where people could conceal carry, they're becoming more and more abundant by the day.

00:16:42.000 That's a huge, major victory.

00:16:44.000 And I think when we look at, you know, the decentralization of power, there's a lot of optimism.

00:16:49.000 There's a lot of hope.

00:16:50.000 But also, at the same time, I think we're seeing the system panic and kind of get angry and lash out.

00:16:56.000 And I think this is one of the ways that they're lashing out in these kind of particular court cases.

00:17:01.000 But at the end of the day, we're talking about Alex Jones, someone that, of course, is banned on social media.

00:17:06.000 And if anything, this is only going to make him more notable.

00:17:09.000 This is only going to make more people know about him because more people are talking about him now.

00:17:13.000 So he was a famous guy, but they've turned him into an iconic historical figure.

00:17:17.000 Literally.

00:17:18.000 That's the craziest thing about it.

00:17:20.000 A martyr, yeah.

00:17:21.000 But I mean, just, I mean more than that.

00:17:24.000 Alex Jones, for a while, was just a personality.

00:17:26.000 He was a guy who talked, and he had fans.

00:17:29.000 If they left him alone, he would have ended up in the historical record as a guy who said stuff online.

00:17:37.000 Now they've turned him into an extremely consequential political and legal figure with everything they've gone after.

00:17:43.000 Now, throughout history, there's going to be precedent historical records talking about the conflict, the crisis, the politics, all of that stuff.

00:17:51.000 Just simply put, he used to be influential, now he's consequential.

00:17:55.000 That's history.

00:17:56.000 Is that a song lyric?

00:17:57.000 You should write that down.

00:17:58.000 The left didn't read their Nietzsche.

00:17:59.000 They stared too long into the abyss.

00:18:01.000 They fought dragons and then they became the enemy.

00:18:05.000 They became exactly what they were fighting against.

00:18:06.000 You know who else is, you know, red pilling a lot of people and another big victory for free speech and freedom is Corey DeAngelis' Crusade.

00:18:15.000 For school choice in Arizona.

00:18:17.000 Yes, he's winning Glenn Youngkin in Virginia the governor's race I mean what a blessing that has been but I honestly think that the school choice issue and the freedom of choice in Education is the freedom issue of our time the pandemic red-pilled a lot of people But there's nothing like telling parents that they shouldn't have anything to do with their kids education to get people to show up to their town That, on top of a new record number of homeschoolers also throughout the last few years, has been growing very significantly, especially after COVID, when a lot of people were able to actually see what's happening in their curriculum, what's happening in their schools, and be shocked by the utter craziness that's being taught to students.

00:18:55.000 And it's not really teaching students or teaching kids anything.

00:18:58.000 It's really indoctrinating them into the current system.

00:19:00.000 A lot of people are sick of it.

00:19:01.000 A lot of people are saying, you know what?

00:19:03.000 I'm just going to teach my own kids the important things that I want to teach them.

00:19:07.000 And what I love, too, is seeing all of the former liberals coming along to our side, right?

00:19:11.000 And, like, how the trans issue has turned so many of the LGBT or the LGB—well, the LGBT community.

00:19:18.000 We've got, you know, Blaire White and so many other transgender people, Sarah Higdon and others, who are coming along to our side who have been red-pilled because of the extremism of the progressive values. 0.99

00:19:28.000 The progressives are out there attacking Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez in her town halls!

00:19:33.000 She's already been pushed to the side! 1.00

00:19:34.000 And you see she's like dancing and then sticks her tongue out. 1.00

00:19:38.000 Did she vote for funding for Ukraine for weapons and aid?

00:19:41.000 Yes!

00:19:41.000 It was unanimous!

00:19:42.000 It was unanimous.

00:19:43.000 Wait a minute, unanimous?

00:19:45.000 Thomas Massey didn't vote.

00:19:46.000 No, no, no, the Democrats.

00:19:48.000 There was like no defectors.

00:19:50.000 You look at the Republicans and it's split.

00:19:52.000 But so, with a lot of this ideology stuff, there's one really great example that's popping in the news, and it's this Dylan Mulvaney, I think the individual's name is?

00:20:00.000 Dylan Mulvaney.

00:20:02.000 It's some of the funniest content.

00:20:03.000 I mean, Dylan says that they're a performer putting on a performance, and I respect that and think the performance is very, very funny.

00:20:10.000 The only thing is, It's at the expense of women, right? 1.00

00:20:13.000 Dylan Mulvaney, for those who aren't familiar, posted this video, got invited to the White House and got a cookie, and the whole performance, and again, I'll stress this, Mulvaney says outright that this is a performance.

00:20:25.000 I bring that up and people are like, no, it's serious, no, it's serious, and I'm like, I mean, maybe Dylan's literally trans, but the character they're playing is exaggerated, over the top performance, and it's, you know, when they say woman face, I'm like, no, that's literally what this is, right? 0.54

00:20:40.000 The point I'm trying to make is, You mentioned that even trans people are getting concerned about what's going on, Blair White being a good example, because Dylan Mulvaney's character is a caricature of women and trans people, not indicative of who trans people really are.

00:20:53.000 So you have this person who's wearing high heels while going hiking, and just this very cartoonish character, and it's got a lot of trans people and women angry that they're being mocked by this performance.

00:21:05.000 Well, conservatism is not confined to one ideology, right?

00:21:08.000 There are conservative Democrats, right? 0.91

00:21:11.000 There are conservative gay people, right?

00:21:13.000 So, you know, conservatism can encompass a wider branch of philosophies than most people might think.

00:21:19.000 It's not confined to republicanism.

00:21:22.000 But hey, you know, Biden really likes Dylan Mulvaney.

00:21:25.000 And according to Dylan, who came out today, he says that Biden said that he watches his TikTok channel, and that they're going to come out with an official conversation and interview this coming Sunday.

00:21:36.000 So that's going to be very interesting to watch.

00:21:39.000 But to the point that you guys are making here, I think it's important to note here that, you know, a lot of the times when people are a part of different communities, Especially in the conservative kind of wing, they usually don't make it their personality.

00:21:51.000 Sometimes they do and it's a little bit annoying, but when you just come to the table and say, hey, my sex, my gender, my choice of how I decide to procreate is everything all about me, it's kind of annoying and it kind of takes away from the human being.

00:22:02.000 And that's what you see from a lot when it comes to a lot of these social media personalities that just use it as a way to have a fake personality.

00:22:09.000 I think It's possible we get to the point, well I see one of two futures.

00:22:14.000 One where offensive comedy comes back with a vengeance and you start seeing like, remember when Sarah Silver?

00:22:19.000 Richard Pryor's and stuff, yeah.

00:22:21.000 Yeah, I mean when George Carlin called Richard Pryor and Eddie Murphy the N-word on stage to thunderous applause.

00:22:29.000 I mean it's shocking.

00:22:30.000 It's true, but it's true.

00:22:31.000 Yeah he did, outright.

00:22:33.000 And the point he was making is that it was a joke because you know they're not.

00:22:36.000 Like it was meant to be absurd.

00:22:38.000 You know that George Carlin is a hippie who doesn't really believe in this stuff and it

00:22:42.000 was meant to be shocking and offensive but you can't do that kind of stuff these days.

00:22:45.000 Maybe it'll go swing in a complete other direction or maybe it will come to the point where woman 1.00

00:22:51.000 face becomes extremely offensive and people like Dylan Mulvaney get banned for misogyny.

00:22:57.000 But how do you do that?

00:22:58.000 I mean, like, how do you rally women around that to, like, to reclaim womanhood that doesn't, that it isn't some entirely conservative female movement?

00:23:06.000 I mean, are liberal females really going to get on board with reclaiming, you know, woman face? 1.00

00:23:11.000 Like, so, I mean, you've got to... Well, my point is maybe.

00:23:15.000 I'm not saying right now.

00:23:16.000 I mean, I don't know where we're at.

00:23:17.000 I just wonder what the psychology is.

00:23:18.000 There has to be some kind of polarizing event.

00:23:21.000 What I see is either the woman face phenomenon results in people saying mockery of any identity is fair play, or it turns into, you know what, we've realized for some time that it's probably not okay to mock women in this way.

00:23:37.000 But shouldn't it be okay, though?

00:23:39.000 Shouldn't everybody be up for grabs?

00:23:42.000 When you were kids, there was always that one serious kid who told the teacher every time somebody said something mean about him, and then the rest of us were all having a laugh or having a joke, right?

00:23:50.000 I mean, I don't think it should be illegal or banned or anything like that, but people are allowed to have tastes, you know what I mean?

00:23:56.000 Like Sarah Silverman did blackface. 0.99

00:23:58.000 Personally, I'm not a fan of it.

00:23:59.000 George Carlin, I'm a huge fan of, but his joke where he calls Eddie Murphy and Richard Pryor the N-word, that's, I'm not, I'm not all about that.

00:24:05.000 You know, I understand his point about being offensive.

00:24:07.000 I think he should be allowed to do it.

00:24:09.000 I think he can make his joke and turns out tons of people really loved what he said.

00:24:12.000 Good for him.

00:24:13.000 I, you know, that's not my thing.

00:24:14.000 Is there time and place for blackface? 0.99

00:24:16.000 Is there, like, is there, you know, let's say you're doing a documentary or a film about Al Jolson, right?

00:24:16.000 You know what I mean?

00:24:21.000 So, I mean, like, There is a time and place to do blackface, right? 0.99

00:24:25.000 So, I mean, the only thing that we're calling out Sarah Silverman for is the hypocrisy of the left, right?

00:24:29.000 Not because she did blackface. 0.93

00:24:31.000 But you mean doing blackface insofar as you're mocking what it represented?

00:24:36.000 Yes.

00:24:37.000 Like the joke of modern blackface with someone like Sarah Silverman was that you're sort of making fun of the old ways when these people were racist and it was wrong and you're supposed to be shocked by it and it's funny because it's deeply offensive.

00:24:53.000 You know what I mean?

00:24:53.000 Wasn't that what Al Jolson was doing, though, originally?

00:24:56.000 Like, he was doing a parody of the Blackface at the time.

00:24:58.000 Not only that, but, like, RDJ, like, Robert Downey Jr.

00:25:01.000 in that movie Tropic Thunder years ago.

00:25:02.000 Oh, right, right, right.

00:25:03.000 It was a joke, but specifically this.

00:25:04.000 It's exactly what we're talking about right now.

00:25:06.000 To poke fun at the people who do it.

00:25:07.000 Yes, exactly.

00:25:08.000 I think the Tropic Thunder is hilarious.

00:25:10.000 And the gag was actors who go too far into method acting, and he went so far, he actually... Did Blackface. 0.57

00:25:16.000 Well, it's more than that.

00:25:17.000 Like, his character got, like, skin pigmentation.

00:25:20.000 I just say personally, myself, let people say and do and express themselves as they want, as long as they don't physically hurt other people.

00:25:27.000 People should be able to control their own emotions.

00:25:29.000 We shouldn't be policing conversation, speech, and art.

00:25:32.000 Let it express itself.

00:25:33.000 And if someone wants to be distasteful, that is their perspective and opinion, but it's also your opinion to get triggered and angry and emotional about it.

00:25:41.000 So, at the end of the day, people's words and actions only have power if you give them that power, and I think if a lot more of us were more mature about this, we could have a situation where we didn't have censorship, we didn't have, of course, the destruction of free speech and the progression of society, but sadly, we do, because people saying, I don't like this, this is offending me, stop him right now!

00:26:01.000 And I think that's just weak, and I think that's low vibrational energy that's not good for human consciousness.

00:26:07.000 Well, as with a lot of things, right, like the woke people will take like a grain of truth and then spin it around it, a yarn of lies.

00:26:14.000 So emotional abuse is a real thing, right?

00:26:16.000 A use of institutional power to emotionally abuse an affected group, that's a real thing.

00:26:22.000 The problem is that when you take that and then you liberalize it and you expand it into, you know, an entire web, then you go too far and then there's going to be collateral damage.

00:26:33.000 So the question is, how do you define what is emotional abuse?

00:26:36.000 That's the problem, right?

00:26:37.000 And that's the realm of therapists to be able to answer a question like that.

00:26:40.000 Maybe you guys know more than I do.

00:26:42.000 But at some point, you know, I hate bullies, right?

00:26:44.000 I can't stand bullies.

00:26:45.000 You know, when you see somebody being bullied because of their race or their sexuality or something like that, you want to stand up against that, right?

00:26:51.000 At least I do, right?

00:26:52.000 For me.

00:26:53.000 I'm not a conservative.

00:26:54.000 I'm a libertarian.

00:26:55.000 So, how do you do that, right, without saying, oh, you're just a woke social justice warrior taking the side of the left or something like that?

00:27:01.000 How do you stand up for the rights of affected minorities from actual emotional abuse without crossing over into some larger, effective... I just want to say... Confront the bully directly to their face.

00:27:12.000 Dave Chappelle, I think, said it best.

00:27:14.000 If you don't like it, don't watch it.

00:27:16.000 If you don't like what I say, you don't have to listen to it.

00:27:19.000 You choose to watch and listen to certain things.

00:27:22.000 And if you don't like someone, you don't like their taste, you got offended by them, don't watch them.

00:27:26.000 It's your choice at the end of the day.

00:27:28.000 Remember that viral tweet that I think it was Tyler the Creator?

00:27:31.000 And he said, how is cyberbullying a real thing?

00:27:33.000 Like, just close your eyes.

00:27:35.000 Just like, turn the screen off.

00:27:37.000 But here's the thing, we're guys.

00:27:39.000 We're all guys.

00:27:39.000 We don't have any women at this table.

00:27:41.000 Those young girls bully the absolute hell out of each other. 1.00

00:27:44.000 And when they're on their social media with the things that they're saying, the bullying in high school, it's not like when we were growing up, guys.

00:27:50.000 It's different.

00:27:50.000 They've got pictures, they've got nudes of each other.

00:27:52.000 They reach you at home.

00:27:53.000 They reach you at home.

00:27:55.000 It's an insane level of harassment.

00:27:58.000 Yeah, so this is actually, it's a good point.

00:28:01.000 Because for these kids, it used to be that if you went to school and you had problems, when you went home you were safe from what that stressor was, but the next day you had to go face it.

00:28:08.000 Today, with social media and online personas, It's it's infinity.

00:28:13.000 It's never going anywhere.

00:28:14.000 And so we're seeing suicide.

00:28:16.000 We're seeing depression mostly among young girls.

00:28:18.000 So yeah, I mean I think it I think really it's gonna come down to the parents to be like no cell phone for you.

00:28:24.000 Is the depression because of bullying?

00:28:26.000 Is it bullying, or is it because of the algorithms that perfectly highlight and curate and upvote particular content that causes drama, that causes anger, that gets people's attention, and they know if they say something negative, they'll get people responding to it.

00:28:39.000 If they post something degenerate, they'll get more eyeballs, and the algorithm will reward them for this.

00:28:44.000 And I think there's an argument to be made here, because I grew up in New York City, I grew up in Brooklyn.

00:28:50.000 There was bullying on insane levels.

00:28:52.000 There was a kid who, you know, one day wasn't coming in for a few months.

00:28:55.000 He was burnt all throughout his body.

00:28:57.000 He lost his father in a fire.

00:28:59.000 There was a bully calling him sausage face, punching him, beating him up.

00:29:03.000 Psychological abuse where you couldn't escape it.

00:29:06.000 There was gangs, there was people bullying each other to the extent where you couldn't even go outside in many instances because you would get, you know, kicked in, stomped on.

00:29:13.000 I got stomped on a couple times.

00:29:15.000 I got bullied like crazy because I didn't even speak English.

00:29:18.000 So I'm saying, There always was bullying, but who are you going to point the finger at?

00:29:24.000 The algorithm, or the individuals?

00:29:26.000 It's both, it's both.

00:29:27.000 But I just want to point out, there's a cultural issue at play with all of this.

00:29:31.000 You mentioning this kid who got burned, I gotta tell you man, where I grew up, if anybody bullied the burn kid, that bully would get stomped out in the playground.

00:29:39.000 Like, dude, everybody was kind of like, bro, you crossed the line.

00:29:42.000 And that's a cultural phenomenon of kids who had some kind of moral code, or just like, scruples.

00:29:48.000 Sounds like where you came from it was different.

00:29:50.000 Yeah.

00:29:50.000 And no one, like, this bully knew he could do it, nobody would stop him.

00:29:55.000 Yeah, it was a bigger kid who got left back a bunch of times, and everyone was afraid of him. 0.97

00:29:59.000 And he would beat the crap out of anybody and anyone he wanted.

00:30:02.000 So this is kind of messed up.

00:30:03.000 When I was 14 years old, my mother passed away from cancer.

00:30:07.000 And, you know, it was a traumatizing event.

00:30:08.000 I watched the whole thing happen in real time in front of my face.

00:30:11.000 You know, just a horrible, horrible event.

00:30:13.000 It took an entire year of suffering.

00:30:16.000 And my best friend knew that I was depressed.

00:30:18.000 It was about six months or so after she passed away.

00:30:21.000 And nothing would make me laugh.

00:30:23.000 Nothing could crack.

00:30:24.000 I was just in a funk.

00:30:25.000 And then one day we were talking about something and he just turns to me and he goes, yeah, well, at least my mom isn't dead.

00:30:32.000 And I just went, and I just started laughing so hard, and it broke me out of my funk, and I just started laughing again.

00:30:40.000 I don't know what it was, but I do think, and I'm not trying to be like, you know, soft here, but I do think we are coming at this from a very masculine worldview, like, because we are told to be tough, Be hard, you know, and a lot of this, a lot of the, you know, a lot of this leftist stuff comes from feminism and feminists and women wanting to be soft and wanting to take care of people's feelings and wanting to protect people, which I totally understand, right?

00:31:02.000 I understand the maternal instinct.

00:31:03.000 You want to come into the heat?

00:31:05.000 I agree, I agree, but you got to understand that like a big portion of what we are opposing here in wokeism is postmodern feminism. 0.50

00:31:05.000 Get ready to get burned. 0.50

00:31:15.000 That's feelings over facts, right?

00:31:18.000 So we've got to be sensitive to that in order to have a conversation with people who think that we're insensitive and that we're not thinking about that.

00:31:25.000 We're these hard, cold, Randian, unfeeling libertarians, right?

00:31:28.000 So what you're saying is that, you know, men are smart, logical, and tough, and women are frail, weak, and emotional. 1.00

00:31:35.000 That's what you said!

00:31:37.000 You mentioned before that using institutional power to emotionally abuse someone is over the line, and I agree with you. 0.70

00:31:44.000 And I think the definition of institutional power has changed since internet videos become so prominent.

00:31:49.000 Now, a 13-year-old that has 700,000 followers on TikTok is the institutional power.

00:31:55.000 And for a young, unfocused child to let their wildness out on another human is like...

00:32:02.000 Heavily abusive and dangerous and can rally crowds of people to do it.

00:32:06.000 So what do you say to them?

00:32:07.000 Toughen up, kid.

00:32:07.000 You know, you've got 13 million followers.

00:32:10.000 You know, you're aiming it at them.

00:32:11.000 You're telling them to go and harass them, essentially.

00:32:13.000 You just say, hey, kid, this is the world that you live in now.

00:32:16.000 You know, these aren't problems that we used to have to deal with.

00:32:18.000 They don't seem to work.

00:32:19.000 You can't, like, tell someone to stop.

00:32:21.000 You've got to ban them.

00:32:22.000 Well, what they've been doing is banning them off the platform.

00:32:24.000 Right.

00:32:24.000 And that's like, I don't know if that's the way to go.

00:32:26.000 When I was at VidCon, this is maybe seven or eight years ago.

00:32:30.000 That's ancient.

00:32:31.000 I'm out in front of, it's an Anaheim convention center, I'm out in front, and I think I have my skateboard on, I'm skating, and I hear, there's a group of little kids, like probably 12, 13, and one kid goes, you have 85 subscribers?

00:32:43.000 How?

00:32:44.000 And then he's like, I just made videos.

00:32:46.000 And the other kid was like, I have 40.

00:32:47.000 Like, these kids are talking to each other about how many followers they have.

00:32:52.000 That freaked me out.

00:32:54.000 I was like, That's going to warp those kids' minds.

00:32:57.000 Their whole world's going to be attached to the number of points they get, their influence number.

00:33:02.000 What I want to say about like, you know, Ben Shapiro, his famous statement, you know, facts don't care about your feelings.

00:33:08.000 He's right about that, but that's from our worldview.

00:33:11.000 The outside world, feelings don't care about our facts.

00:33:14.000 Well, I've long said that.

00:33:15.000 And a lot of other people have said that same thing, too.

00:33:17.000 And that's the more important thing to understand.

00:33:19.000 Ben Shapiro is factually correct.

00:33:20.000 Facts don't care about feelings.

00:33:22.000 But you need to understand the political reality is that their feelings don't care about your facts.

00:33:26.000 So how do we learn this language, right?

00:33:28.000 This is like learning a brand new language.

00:33:30.000 We have to be able to learn this language in order to be able to counteract it, I think. 1.00

00:33:34.000 No, no, no.

00:33:35.000 Look, look.

00:33:36.000 You're correct, but we know the language.

00:33:39.000 I used to do non-profit fundraising.

00:33:40.000 It's evil.

00:33:41.000 I think the industry is evil, I think.

00:33:43.000 I realized that a lot of these organizations were just lying, and that what they teach people is specifically the language of feelings.

00:33:51.000 They give you scripts, they break down how the scripts work, so they teach you exactly how to speak their language.

00:33:57.000 And you know what?

00:33:58.000 There are high-functioning individuals who can build a podcast or a media platform knowing that language.

00:34:06.000 That means they're probably manipulating their followers.

00:34:10.000 Or you can be the quote-unquote right and have real conversations, often disagree, and say, it's cool that we disagree, but not try to use emotional manipulation.

00:34:19.000 Really what it comes down to is On a show like this, if we tried to engage in hard sophistry, we'd get annihilated by the audience. 0.86

00:34:27.000 They would say, you guys are liars and it's obvious.

00:34:30.000 Because I think what's really starting to split the two worlds is facts versus feelings, and the people who are all about facts aren't going to be swayed by emotional manipulation.

00:34:39.000 That's most of the people who are watching this show.

00:34:41.000 And then it's the inverse.

00:34:41.000 And the inverse.

00:34:42.000 You watch a show like H3H3 or Hassan, and it's gonna be all emotional manipulation with very little facts.

00:34:50.000 Hence, the Democrats right now will say, we gotta get off fossil fuels and shut down the Keystone Pipeline.

00:34:55.000 Hey, Saudi Arabia, keep pumping that gas!

00:34:58.000 How can both of those things be true?

00:34:59.000 But do we want this balkanization?

00:35:01.000 I guess is the question.

00:35:02.000 I mean, if you're an anarchist, then yeah, you want to, you know,

00:35:04.000 break everybody up into separate independent republics of individuals, right?

00:35:08.000 But if you want to live in the United States, like, do you want Hassan to come on this show and talk to you?

00:35:13.000 Because right now we are...

00:35:14.000 We are.

00:35:15.000 Exactly.

00:35:15.000 Is that what we want?

00:35:18.000 No.

00:35:19.000 I want Hassan to come in here and engage with us.

00:35:21.000 I want to talk to these people.

00:35:22.000 I want to have these conversations.

00:35:23.000 When I reach out to leftists and liberals to try and get them on the show, they won't do it.

00:35:26.000 Listen, Ethan Klein got suspended on YouTube because he said that if there is another If there's another Holocaust, he hopes that Ben goes first, which is shocking and offensive.

00:35:39.000 Now, my position, Ben's position, and most people in our space was basically like, he shouldn't be banned for that. 0.98

00:35:46.000 He's just kind of a dick.

00:35:48.000 Ethan Klein himself tweeted before that cancel culture is often a good thing and when he's been cancelled in the past it helps him reflect and become a better person. 0.99

00:35:57.000 When he got his sponsors pulled because he made gay stereotype jokes, he said, well I guess I'm a threat to gay people so you know whatever and he was kind of bummed about it.

00:36:07.000 When he makes offensive comments about Ben Shapiro, he claimed white supremacists got him banned.

00:36:13.000 I'm sorry, I gotta pause there a second. You mean you made a joke about gassing

00:36:17.000 Ben and you thought white supremacists were mad about it?

00:36:20.000 I'm sorry, they agree with you, Ethan, but my point is, it's nonsensical.

00:36:26.000 There's no logic there.

00:36:28.000 There's no fact to follow.

00:36:30.000 He's saying two things that contradict each other.

00:36:33.000 However, in the world of emotion, that doesn't matter.

00:36:36.000 So, of course, it's true.

00:36:37.000 We are in this world where we look for logical consistency.

00:36:40.000 And we often don't understand how they could be trapped in that world because they don't need logical consistency.

00:36:45.000 They need emotional consistency.

00:36:46.000 And what's that?

00:36:47.000 Hating us.

00:36:50.000 Ethan was joking and jiving Ben, like it was an attempt to emotionally bond with Ben Shapiro.

00:36:56.000 Are you kidding, dude?

00:36:58.000 I know how people like that feel.

00:37:00.000 You're saying that Ethan Klein saying he hopes Ben Shapiro gets gassed was to bond with him?

00:37:04.000 Yeah, he's like, listen fellow Jew, take responsibility for your Jewishness, let's be together on this one kind of thing. 0.68

00:37:10.000 It was an emotional way to say that, and it came out as a dirty joke.

00:37:13.000 Emotional in the sense that it would make the average person want to fight you, I guess.

00:37:17.000 Yeah, kind of like with a friend and you're like, make an insulting joke to your friend.

00:37:20.000 They're like, oh yeah?

00:37:21.000 And then you get like a bonding kind of thing.

00:37:24.000 No way, dude.

00:37:24.000 That is a one times one.

00:37:28.000 Hold on, look. 0.72

00:37:29.000 When you are a personality that consistently attacks, insults, derides, and makes money off of harming, like attacking other people, and then one day you go on your show and outright say, you hope if it comes down to it, they die.

00:37:43.000 I'm sorry, bro.

00:37:44.000 You're not attacking other people.

00:37:46.000 You mean insulting other people?

00:37:47.000 I don't like the verb attack used in conversational terms.

00:37:50.000 We're not attacking each other.

00:37:51.000 These are people who celebrated cancel culture, celebrated the harm to people's livelihoods, and then complain when it happens to them.

00:38:00.000 They advocate for a world of pain and then demand it does not befall them.

00:38:04.000 Look, I said this the other day.

00:38:07.000 If I came out and said similar comments about AOC, ain't nobody's gonna call that a joke.

00:38:10.000 We're critical of AOC.

00:38:11.000 We're not friends with her.

00:38:12.000 He is not friends with Ben Shapiro.

00:38:14.000 No, I don't think he is.

00:38:14.000 What he said about him was not bonding, it was a direct insult.

00:38:17.000 No, it was an attempt to bond.

00:38:18.000 Oh, come on. 0.87

00:38:19.000 It was an attempt, emotional attempt to bond.

00:38:21.000 It was an attempt to deride and insult for the sake of making money.

00:38:24.000 Why would he bond with somebody that he argues with and doesn't like politically and is complete different?

00:38:31.000 It's natural human tendency.

00:38:33.000 Can I take an informal poll amongst you guys on the subject of national divorce?

00:38:37.000 Yay or nay?

00:38:38.000 Nay.

00:38:38.000 No.

00:38:39.000 No.

00:38:39.000 Yay.

00:38:40.000 Okay, so I'm a nay as well.

00:38:43.000 So we got one yay.

00:38:43.000 What about you, Serge?

00:38:45.000 I think the U.S.

00:38:46.000 is strong because it's many different nations.

00:38:48.000 Maybe if it was a divorce where it was kind of like larger regions of the United States, maybe.

00:38:52.000 Okay.

00:38:52.000 So it's like a larger Balkanization.

00:38:54.000 Okay.

00:38:54.000 But I don't necessarily know.

00:38:55.000 I wouldn't be able to So then that means that we've got to figure out a way to live with these people, right?

00:39:00.000 Bill Maher's been talking about this on his show a couple of times.

00:39:03.000 No, we don't have to figure out a way to live with these people.

00:39:04.000 No, we don't.

00:39:05.000 That's why we have states, and that's why people have championed federalism.

00:39:08.000 Even the states have Democrats in them.

00:39:11.000 That's fine.

00:39:12.000 But California can do California's thing so long as we outline where they're infringing upon our rights. 0.96

00:39:18.000 For instance, California allowing tons of illegal immigrants to come in, then using that in the census to gain a congressional seat or an electoral vote is a violation of our rights. 0.96

00:39:27.000 That needs to be adjudicated.

00:39:28.000 But if California wants to have illegal immigrants that don't count toward their census, I could care less. 1.00

00:39:33.000 How can we live in a country with people who think that we are semi-fascists?

00:39:38.000 How can we call those people in our country?

00:39:42.000 I'd have to side with Luke and say national divorce before we tolerate that. 0.53

00:39:45.000 There are countries in this world that want us all dead.

00:39:49.000 We need to find a way to not fight with each other.

00:39:52.000 War is bad. 0.70

00:39:54.000 So the same goes for even within this country.

00:39:57.000 I think California is a very awful place. 0.97

00:39:59.000 There's poop in the streets. 0.99

00:40:01.000 They ignore federal laws.

00:40:03.000 The only thing I'm concerned about is There are benefits to being part of the Union that make us strong and protect us from, say, Chinese Communism, the Chinese Communist Party, but I don't like the fact that when they become a sanctuary state and defy federal law, it gives them federal power. 0.75

00:40:18.000 That should be adjudicated.

00:40:20.000 I think, if it came down to it, a peaceful divorce is better than a civil war, but I would prefer this country remain together.

00:40:25.000 In fact, I prefer the United States actually expand.

00:40:27.000 Buying Greenland?

00:40:28.000 Let's get it!

00:40:29.000 We need to add more states. 0.99

00:40:31.000 Lucas.

00:40:31.000 I disagree.

00:40:34.000 Annex Ontario.

00:40:36.000 I don't want Canada.

00:40:38.000 I like Montreal.

00:40:40.000 Alberta is where the oil is.

00:40:43.000 That doesn't matter.

00:40:43.000 I like Montreal.

00:40:44.000 To me, you don't have to deal with all of Canada.

00:40:48.000 If you guys just listen to me and do what I want, we can avoid a whole bunch of problems.

00:40:54.000 I think it's important to prioritize.

00:40:56.000 You know, when I talk about national divorce, what I'm specifically talking about is prioritizing states' rights, limiting the federal government, allowing people to individually decide their own kind of destiny.

00:41:06.000 But at the same time, you could also have defense pacts.

00:41:08.000 You could also say, hey, we're going to protect each other.

00:41:10.000 Hey, we're going to have a strong national defense.

00:41:12.000 If one of us gets attacked, we're going to have an alliance.

00:41:14.000 But the federal government that dictates how we should be living our life, that's just too much there.

00:41:19.000 We don't need all these departments.

00:41:20.000 We don't need all these regulators.

00:41:21.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, And roads and things like that, for the most part.

00:41:42.000 We're talking about federalism.

00:41:43.000 You keep the roads.

00:41:44.000 I don't want the roads.

00:41:45.000 Let the roads be private.

00:41:47.000 Let's not have a whole roads conversation here because it'll get crazy here.

00:41:51.000 I don't want the roads.

00:41:51.000 But Luke, the first thing that's going to happen is Missouri's going to war with Kansas.

00:41:55.000 I don't think so.

00:41:56.000 I think they'll... Why?

00:41:58.000 Why?

00:41:58.000 Well, you guys must not be from Missouri.

00:41:58.000 Why would that happen?

00:42:00.000 First of all, Jayhawks.

00:42:01.000 Border war.

00:42:02.000 We've had a problem with them since the late 1800s.

00:42:04.000 But that was what Alexander Hamilton argued in The Federalist, was that if we do not have a central federal government that puts us all in a, you know, whatever the arrangement was, 13 colonies, 13 states at the time, that they would be more willing to go to war with one another.

00:42:18.000 And that the tensions between the states will be alleviated because they could seek redress throughout the federal government.

00:42:23.000 And I think that that argument has been proven true.

00:42:25.000 And I think that's actually fantastic, and it's partly how I describe international efforts, or I don't want to say globalism, because that has a connotation towards authoritarianism.

00:42:35.000 Because of one world government, if we were all under like Star Trek kind of a situation.

00:42:39.000 But I'm saying this, imagine the United States had sovereign rights over its borders and trade, but instead of war, we adjudicated things through a court.

00:42:48.000 It's preferable to war. 0.98

00:42:49.000 I don't want to see our troops overseas blowing up anybody or getting blown up.

00:42:53.000 I don't want to see nukes fired. 0.65

00:42:54.000 As much as it might suck, it's better.

00:42:57.000 So, in that sense, there is a path towards... Can I blow your mind on the globalist?

00:43:02.000 One thing real quick, Luke.

00:43:03.000 I want to blow your mind here with a little, like, situation on the globalist thing, right?

00:43:07.000 Would you rather live on an Earth that was a one-world government that was governed under the United States Constitution, or would you rather live in a world where it had hundreds of governments, but they were all like North Korea? 0.80

00:43:19.000 One world government with a constitution.

00:43:21.000 Right.

00:43:21.000 So, I mean, you're a globalist.

00:43:23.000 No, I've never, I've often talked about this.

00:43:25.000 Globalism is inevitable.

00:43:26.000 I've often said, how are we going to do it?

00:43:28.000 So, one world government is inevitable in your mind.

00:43:29.000 Yeah, it is.

00:43:30.000 Luke, get him.

00:43:31.000 No, it's true.

00:43:32.000 I was just going to say, that's the argument I was going to make, because what you were just saying, essentially, if you're saying, oh, we're all going to be together so we don't fight each other, why don't we just create a world government?

00:43:40.000 Just like, you know, the Rockefellers has called for and centralize more power.

00:43:44.000 But this is the core to my argument, right?

00:43:48.000 There's centralization of power, there's a monopoly of power, and then there's decentralization.

00:43:52.000 I think we should always be striving and pushing and advocating for the decentralization of power, not for the centralization of power.

00:43:58.000 Because when you centralize it enough, you have a world government, and that's essentially the wet dream of many eugenicists and populations.

00:44:06.000 You're conflating a bunch of issues that don't need to be conflated, right?

00:44:09.000 Your point about a one-world government under the American Constitution is a good one. 0.98

00:44:12.000 If it was actually the American Constitution, that's a really, really good thing.

00:44:16.000 The issue here is, you are correct about decentralization of power, Luke, but simply because we would have a very weak treaty between countries for adjudication of border disputes and resource disputes does not mean eugenicists will start massacring children.

00:44:29.000 Of course not.

00:44:30.000 Just like you were talking about annexing Canada, right?

00:44:32.000 So if we added a 51st state, what you're talking about is moving towards, essentially, that one world government.

00:44:37.000 What if Russia was just a state?

00:44:39.000 What if Mexico was just a state, right?

00:44:40.000 And then everyone was governed.

00:44:42.000 See, that's why, like, you have to be careful when you say, oh, well, decentralization is good, because ultimately you could say, well, you know, North Korea is very decentralized, but it's not governed very well, right?

00:44:53.000 So the question really is, are individual rights protected?

00:44:56.000 That's what I think is really important.

00:44:57.000 And so the question is, is when we talk about big government,

00:45:00.000 is it the size of government that matters?

00:45:02.000 Or is it if that government protects individual rights?

00:45:05.000 And these are questions I ask myself.

00:45:06.000 I don't know the answer to that because the American government is bigger than North Korea, 0.79

00:45:10.000 but I would rather live in the American government that is bigger than North Korea.

00:45:14.000 Everyone works for the government in North Korea.

00:45:16.000 Yeah, you're wrong.

00:45:17.000 But this is the thing.

00:45:18.000 And there's a correlation between big governments and liberty going down.

00:45:21.000 So when you look at that correlation historically, this is why you always... I don't disagree with that.

00:45:25.000 The North Korean government is bigger than our government.

00:45:27.000 The North Korean government is absolute in their country from border to border.

00:45:31.000 Everyone works for the government, is controlled by the government, and enslaved by the government.

00:45:35.000 But there are plenty of objective measures that the United States government is much larger than the United States

00:45:40.000 You're making...

00:45:40.000 government.

00:45:41.000 Budgetary...

00:45:42.000 Yes, but hold on.

00:45:43.000 You're making an argument...

00:45:44.000 ... bureaucratic...

00:45:45.000 ... employees...

00:45:46.000 Okay, okay, I get it.

00:45:47.000 You're making an argument about hard number to number.

00:45:49.000 If I'm talking about crime in Omaha, Nebraska and New York, what matters?

00:45:53.000 The hard numbers of murders or the per capita murders?

00:45:56.000 It's per capita.

00:45:56.000 Per capita.

00:45:57.000 If we're talking about the size of government, North Korea is as big as government can be.

00:46:01.000 Just because they're a small country physically does not mean they're a smaller government than ours.

00:46:05.000 100% government.

00:46:06.000 Everybody's in the government.

00:46:07.000 So I agree.

00:46:08.000 Everyone's spying for the government.

00:46:10.000 What percentage of the population is involved with working for the government?

00:46:13.000 Yeah, with the United States, I mean, look at New York.

00:46:15.000 New York has between 30 and 40,000 cops out of 2.5 million just in Manhattan alone.

00:46:20.000 That is very little.

00:46:24.000 I disagree.

00:46:25.000 You're wrong.

00:46:26.000 And I'll tell you why.

00:46:27.000 Because if the government of the United States wanted to accomplish what North Korea is doing, it could.

00:46:34.000 And in many ways, it does.

00:46:35.000 The size of the government can be measured.

00:46:37.000 What you said is a subjective measurement.

00:46:39.000 I could take my own measurements and say, yeah, per capita is fine.

00:46:44.000 The laws of North Korea that exist are larger. 0.60

00:46:46.000 Let's define what you mean by government size.

00:46:48.000 Okay, I'm talking about the budget, the national budget.

00:46:52.000 I'm talking about the number of bureaucracies that exist, the number of bureaucrats that work in those bureaucracies, the number of offices, appointed offices, right?

00:47:00.000 The size and scope of the US federal government.

00:47:04.000 By any objective measure, other than what that government can do to its citizens and the power that it has over its citizens, by that measurement, I would give that to you.

00:47:12.000 North Korea is a larger government in that it can reach into its citizens' lives and accomplish more in controlling its citizens' lives than the U.S.

00:47:19.000 federal government, which I think is what matters, right?

00:47:22.000 That is what matters.

00:47:23.000 But there can be an argument made that the United States government is larger.

00:47:26.000 And the reason I would disagree with your assessment is that population size doesn't dictate size of government in any meaningful way.

00:47:32.000 Just because there's 330 million people here, by necessity you have people who work in government to a certain percentage, but that percentage is minuscule compared to North Korea.

00:47:41.000 Right, but it's my point that it doesn't matter necessarily what the size of government is, stands, because you would still rather live in a government that is governed under the United States, in a world that is governed under the U.S.

00:47:52.000 Constitution, than it is one that is decentralized republics, but they're all governed by like North Korea. 0.86

00:47:58.000 But I would even counter saying no one even respects the Constitution anymore.

00:48:01.000 Do you think New York State respects the Second Amendment?

00:48:03.000 They don't.

00:48:04.000 They absolutely don't.

00:48:04.000 And this idea of... The fact that they've had to change their laws to adjust to what the Supreme Court has done suggests that you're incorrect.

00:48:12.000 Yeah, but at the same time look what the reality is in New York State.

00:48:15.000 Look what the reality that a lot of people are living under when their basic rights are being violated by the NSA, by the federal government spying on everything.

00:48:22.000 You would get rid of the U.S.

00:48:22.000 Congress?

00:48:23.000 Absolutely not.

00:48:24.000 But I would say... So how are you going to decentralize?

00:48:27.000 Government is imperfect, but one of the most closest, you know, better ideas is of course the Constitution, but now we have to face the reality... How can you be for a national divorce?

00:48:38.000 The argument I'm saying right now is that, sadly, a lot of federal bureaucrats, because there's so much government, they don't respect the Constitution.

00:48:44.000 The idea of the Constitution is something that they don't even know and understand because of how big our bureaucracy is.

00:48:50.000 And I would even argue that just two years ago, we lived under a North Korean-type government that went around, locked down businesses, and shut people's livelihoods down, and made them not even be able to, you know, walk around freely in many instances. 0.94

00:49:02.000 Depending on your state.

00:49:03.000 Didn't happen to us in Missouri.

00:49:05.000 Exactly.

00:49:05.000 Why?

00:49:05.000 Because decentralization.

00:49:07.000 Because states were able to decide what's right for themselves.

00:49:09.000 But if you lived in Australia... But the court cases that came out used the U.S.

00:49:13.000 Constitution as precedent.

00:49:15.000 So it was the federal government, ultimately, and the 14th Amendment that many of these court cases relied on.

00:49:20.000 So if we had gone into, you know, national divorce, Luke, how could you have used the Constitution as precedent?

00:49:27.000 You say they ignored it, but I mean the court cases suggest otherwise.

00:49:30.000 And when Alex Jones goes to the Supreme Court, it will be the federal laws that he will use to protect him and his free speech.

00:49:38.000 But a lot of times that is interpreted up to the judges to make decisions that are not always beholden to the Constitution.

00:49:45.000 The Constitution is not a perfect idea, but it's one of the best perfect ideas that we have come close to, and I agree with you.

00:49:51.000 We should try to protect the Constitution, but at the same time we live in a reality where it's just been thrown to the side and we can't deny that.

00:49:58.000 So let's say idealistically, If the whole world was governed according to the U.S.

00:50:03.000 Constitution, would that be a good thing?

00:50:05.000 Yes.

00:50:06.000 If people respected the Constitution, yes.

00:50:08.000 I'm saying ideologically, yes.

00:50:09.000 You think so?

00:50:09.000 Sort of.

00:50:10.000 It won't be perfect, but it's there.

00:50:13.000 It's better than what we have.

00:50:14.000 Okay, what do you think?

00:50:15.000 Yeah, I think it's a start for sure.

00:50:16.000 What do you think, Serge?

00:50:18.000 Like Ian said, I think it's a start.

00:50:19.000 I think it's a start.

00:50:22.000 I think, for one, we're biased.

00:50:23.000 We are all people who benefited from the U.S.

00:50:26.000 Constitution, live in a country where we see its values.

00:50:28.000 There are probably people in, say, China, who firmly believe in the hierarchy of the Chinese Communist Party, and they would be like, it's horrifying if people could lie and say whatever they wanted.

00:50:37.000 It would harm the greater.

00:50:38.000 I'm sure they would disagree with us.

00:50:39.000 We're very individualist as a nation.

00:50:41.000 And I think it's actually fascinating if you look back as to why that is.

00:50:44.000 A bunch of people lived in Europe.

00:50:45.000 The people who wanted to stay and be a part of the collective and live under that rule stayed.

00:50:50.000 A bunch of other people for a variety of reasons said, I would rather live in a barren, you know, barren shoreline and figure it out.

00:50:57.000 So what happens is you have a bunch of human beings in Europe, and there's the crown, there's the church, there's war and conflict, and many people say, I'm going to stay.

00:51:05.000 A bunch of people, for religious reasons or political reasons, get in a boat.

00:51:09.000 20% or so die on the boat.

00:51:11.000 They land on shores that are empty and say, I'm going to make my own thing here.

00:51:15.000 That small group of people had a bunch of kids.

00:51:17.000 Those kids resulted in us.

00:51:19.000 Surprise, surprise, hundreds of millions of people now are staunchly individualist.

00:51:23.000 that means we're going to have those values and we want the rest of the world

00:51:26.000 to retain those values for one reason because of how we live and how we think

00:51:30.000 it is beneficial for other people to live. You know interventionism right this is why

00:51:34.000 you know foreign policy wise it's good to let other countries do it. I believe in liberty but

00:51:38.000 not enough to force it on anyone else. Just one more argument I wanted to make here and this is

00:51:41.000 why I always believe that that decentralization is the key individual rights are the key here

00:51:46.000 is is is like the supreme court.

00:51:48.000 The Supreme Court is supposed to uphold the Constitution, right?

00:51:50.000 It's supposed to be the checks and balances, but it depends if there's Democrats in power or if there's Republicans in power, what kind of laws you're going to get.

00:51:57.000 And that's not because of the Constitution, that's because of political partisanship with people being activist judges deciding for themselves, you know what, I like this idea, We're in power.

00:52:05.000 We're going to do this.

00:52:06.000 We're going to force these ideas onto everyone.

00:52:08.000 And that, to me, is a bad idea.

00:52:10.000 And I think if we respected people's individual rights and didn't just go by this system, things would be a lot better.

00:52:15.000 Okay, here's the thing.

00:52:16.000 So you're in a paradox.

00:52:17.000 We're all in this paradox, right?

00:52:18.000 And we're going back to the Federalists versus the Anti-Federalists here and the writing of the Bill of Rights and the Constitution.

00:52:23.000 The antifederalists didn't want the Constitution to be ratified.

00:52:27.000 So when they knew that it was going to happen, they said, OK, well, if you're going to do this, we are going to write down these rights.

00:52:34.000 And they came up with the Bill of Rights, right?

00:52:36.000 The problem is, is that the antifederalists didn't believe that things like laws and rights really needed to be written down.

00:52:43.000 But the Federalists, Alexander Hamilton, George Washington, and others, they all said to themselves, well, in order to have a proper law, it has to be written down.

00:52:52.000 So the Anti-Federalists didn't believe that, but they knew that their enemies did.

00:52:56.000 They knew that their enemies believed that, so they said, you know what?

00:52:59.000 We know that if we do not write down these ten rules, then they are going to take away our rights.

00:53:06.000 So it becomes that paradox.

00:53:07.000 Was it?

00:53:07.000 Okay.

00:53:08.000 So it was this paradox where it's like, well, we don't believe in written law, but we know that they do, and if we don't write down these laws in order to protect ourselves from them, then we're not going to have, you know, freedom.

00:53:19.000 But you know, they made some mistakes there.

00:53:22.000 One of the mistakes was in the Second Amendment.

00:53:24.000 Because they originally were going to say that being part of the military was not a requirement to bearing arms, because they wanted to make sure that everyone had the right to keep and bear arms, regardless of military service or otherwise.

00:53:37.000 But they were scared that it would be used as a legal argument to end conscription, which was a necessity at the time.

00:53:44.000 So they said, OK, we'll just take that language out.

00:53:47.000 Here we are.

00:53:48.000 Yeah, the militia, right?

00:53:50.000 So George Mason, George Washington's hunting buddy, had something to say about that.

00:53:54.000 He said specifically in the Constitutional Convention, when they were asked about what it meant, I asked, Sir, what is the militia?

00:54:01.000 It is the whole of the people minus a few public officials.

00:54:04.000 And that right there ought to be enough to tell you.

00:54:06.000 It was 17 articles approved by the House, August 24th, 1789.

00:54:10.000 And I think the first was specifically about 35,000 people per representative.

00:54:16.000 And you know, they… But how fascinating to have a paradox like that, right?

00:54:21.000 If you're an anti-federalist, you say, I don't think the Constitution should be written.

00:54:24.000 I don't think laws should be written down at all.

00:54:26.000 But legal positivists who were the federalists said, well, we believe the laws need to be written down.

00:54:32.000 And the anti-federalists, knowing that they were not a majority, have to say,

00:54:35.000 let's… OK, we'll write down some laws just to make sure that we're

00:54:37.000 protecting ourselves.

00:54:38.000 Let me read the original Second Amendment, which was called the Fifth Article.

00:54:42.000 A well-regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, being the best security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed, but no one religiously scrupulous of bearing arms shall be compelled to render military service in person.

00:54:58.000 And they were like, okay, hold on there a minute.

00:55:00.000 We have conscription.

00:55:02.000 We should probably get rid of that." 0.99

00:55:03.000 And thus, we ended up with the fourth article.

00:55:05.000 They condensed some.

00:55:08.000 I think the third and the fourth articles are both the First Amendment, and they got combined into one.

00:55:16.000 An important word in there, too, is well-regulated, because the liberals seized on that, of course, with regulations.

00:55:21.000 But in the late 1700s, to be well-regular meant that you were a good shot.

00:55:26.000 Right?

00:55:27.000 Not to be controlled, but that you had self-control.

00:55:29.000 Well, it meant a variety of things.

00:55:31.000 It just meant functional.

00:55:34.000 A functional militia.

00:55:35.000 It means your weapons work, it means you have boots, it means you know what you're doing.

00:55:39.000 Right.

00:55:39.000 But if you were well regular, that meant that you were a good shot.

00:55:43.000 But the funny thing is, now, people don't understand language changes.

00:55:47.000 Actually, no, I think the left very, very much understands language changes.

00:55:51.000 And that if they can change the understanding of a word, they can change the law.

00:55:53.000 Like changing the definition of woman. 1.00

00:55:56.000 It just undermines completely the Civil Rights Act of 1960.

00:56:00.000 I think it's 64.

00:56:01.000 Was it 67?

00:56:03.000 I'm specifically referring to, I think, Title IX or whatever that protected women's rights.

00:56:08.000 If you change the definition of woman to a social construct, then you delete from the law books women's protections under the law. 0.98

00:56:14.000 Or the definition of vaccine.

00:56:17.000 That's another one that, of course, also changed definitions.

00:56:19.000 There's a lot of changing definitions in this kind of New Orwellian word.

00:56:23.000 play that I think a lot of people are playing into, because they understand that if you're able to change the meaning of things, you're able to manipulate them in your own favor, and the people who control a lot of the language also, of course, do this with big tech social media.

00:56:36.000 You wanna know one of the best amendments, though?

00:56:38.000 It's that, uh, what is it?

00:56:39.000 In suits at common law where the value in controversy shall exceed twenty dollars, the right of a trial by jury shall be preserved, and no fact tried by a jury shall be otherwise re-examined in any court of the United States than according to the rules of the common law.

00:56:51.000 Twenty bucks!

00:56:51.000 That was a lot of money back then.

00:56:52.000 I know!

00:56:53.000 It's like the National Firearms Act.

00:56:55.000 When they first pass it, they're like, $200 to buy a Tommy gun.

00:56:57.000 And they're like, nobody will be able to afford that.

00:56:59.000 Back then, they couldn't afford it.

00:57:00.000 Now, it's like, oh, $200 so that you can get your own family.

00:57:02.000 So I just want to point out, I love that point as the Federal Reserve backfired horribly on the gun control people.

00:57:08.000 Yeah.

00:57:09.000 Sam Adams, how strangely will the tools of a tyrant pervert the plain meanings of words?

00:57:15.000 Tyrants have always used language to pervert the plain meanings of words to turn it around to their advantage.

00:57:21.000 And that's exactly what the left does with the Second Amendment. 1.00

00:57:24.000 You were talking about the paradox of wanting to be left alone, or the anti-federalists saying, we don't want laws, we don't need these laws, so why write them down?

00:57:34.000 But then they had to write down laws to protect their ability to not have to live.

00:57:37.000 It's kind of like libertarianism in general.

00:57:38.000 They want to be left alone.

00:57:40.000 But in order to do that, you have to create laws that guarantee your ability to be left alone.

00:57:44.000 Correct.

00:57:45.000 Yeah.

00:57:45.000 And that's why I don't venture into the anarchist thing that they want to sell heroin to five-year-olds.

00:57:53.000 Is anarchism like a sect of libertarianism?

00:57:55.000 Of course.

00:57:55.000 Like extremists?

00:57:56.000 Well, anarchists... I agree with a lot of what they have to say.

00:58:00.000 Just, you know, not the heroine.

00:58:01.000 Anarchy means without authority.

00:58:03.000 Yeah, that seems like an extreme position.

00:58:04.000 No rulers.

00:58:05.000 Because without a federal authority, without some sort of overarching... Is it really all that extreme?

00:58:09.000 It's just mob rule. 0.91

00:58:09.000 You're going to make me stand up for the anarchists tonight. 0.91

00:58:11.000 I don't really know.

00:58:13.000 Anarchy exists all around us in many ways.

00:58:15.000 I mean, the free market itself is anarchy.

00:58:16.000 The black market itself is anarchy.

00:58:18.000 Anarchy is all around us in nature and in many ways. 0.53

00:58:22.000 The internet, to some degree, at least it was, was very anarchic.

00:58:26.000 It doesn't mean without order.

00:58:28.000 But let's be real.

00:58:28.000 I mean, there's too many people and somebody's got to work at McDonald's, right?

00:58:33.000 The world needs ditch diggers, too, our friends.

00:58:36.000 You made a good point.

00:58:37.000 The majority of our lives is without central controllers, is without government, and things figure themselves out.

00:58:42.000 Things don't go chaotic.

00:58:43.000 Things don't go crazy.

00:58:44.000 There's even entire populations in Mexico, entire cities, that got rid of their governments, and they're living a life that's a lot more peaceful than it was with the government.

00:58:53.000 This is specifically the city of Tehran.

00:58:55.000 Tens of thousands of people living peacefully together, and when they got rid of the government, they also got rid of the drug cartels.

00:59:01.000 They also got rid of the police.

00:59:02.000 I get it, I get it.

00:59:03.000 I understand, but if people really get rid of government, then how do I exploit them to steal from them?

00:59:11.000 You mentioned the free market as anarchy.

00:59:14.000 I don't agree, because I think that it's the people with all the money or the richest that are controlling the market and deciding, especially the banking establishment, Bank of International Asset Management.

00:59:21.000 Why are they rich?

00:59:23.000 They're rich because the government gave them an upper Well, because they were born into it.

00:59:26.000 They gave them an advantage.

00:59:27.000 They made sure that companies got, you know, in a situation that an average person couldn't get into.

00:59:33.000 And this is why we have such big monopolies when it comes to big tech social media.

00:59:36.000 That's why big corporations hate free markets. 0.98

00:59:38.000 They hate capitalism.

00:59:39.000 And they want more taxes.

00:59:40.000 Yes.

00:59:41.000 Mark Zuckerberg is the biggest advocate for regulating social media.

00:59:44.000 Because he knows that he's gonna write the laws.

00:59:44.000 Why?

00:59:46.000 The auto industry and the banks should have collapsed.

00:59:49.000 And then something could have emerged in their wake to fill the hole and it would have functioned better.

00:59:53.000 But instead, the government intervened.

00:59:56.000 They printed money that diluted our savings to prop up failures.

01:00:00.000 Correct.

01:00:01.000 And we could have had a better fall-proof system that actually worked to everyone's benefit, but we don't have that.

01:00:06.000 We have another system that's going to collapse soon and impact everyone that much more negatively because we keep propping up and being welfare queens to the big corporations that are calling the shots.

01:00:15.000 But the heart of the evil at this is always the Federal Reserve.

01:00:18.000 When we lost the control over the power of money, that is when we lost our freedoms.

01:00:22.000 Because money was not a creation of governments initially, right?

01:00:25.000 We had money before we had governments.

01:00:28.000 It was always a voluntary means of exchange.

01:00:30.000 But once we created this public-private venture in the Federal Reserve, we gave away all of our autonomy.

01:00:36.000 Because it is the power to print.

01:00:38.000 The power to print is the power to destroy.

01:00:40.000 The power to print is the power to control.

01:00:42.000 The power to print is the central power over all of us.

01:00:47.000 The Federal Reserve is, to me, the issue.

01:00:50.000 I know that we have other issues, education and things like that, but ending the Federal

01:00:54.000 Reserve would probably be the greatest, most revolutionary, liberating act in American

01:01:00.000 history.

01:01:01.000 We've done it twice.

01:01:02.000 And we need to do it again.

01:01:03.000 And they put Jackson on the 20.

01:01:05.000 I agree it's a problem.

01:01:06.000 The late 1800s, the free banking era, the Scottish free banking era, the monetary anarchy

01:01:12.000 of the not so wild west of the late 1800s in Grover Cleveland.

01:01:15.000 It was a gilded age.

01:01:16.000 They call it the age of Robert Barron.

01:01:17.000 And that's when you have prosperity.

01:01:18.000 That's the problem.

01:01:20.000 But it was the gilded age.

01:01:21.000 It was a golden era of American history.

01:01:23.000 The left wants us to forget.

01:01:25.000 It wasn't free.

01:01:26.000 You were still run by robber barons.

01:01:27.000 Vanderbilt controlled.

01:01:28.000 He decided if New York was going to get food or not.

01:01:31.000 So we had to create antitrust laws and we needed government because an economy absent of government is chaos and whoever's born into the money controls the economy.

01:01:42.000 If I had another hour and a half to go into this.

01:01:46.000 They call them robber barons.

01:01:47.000 I prefer to think of them as benevolent philanthropists.

01:01:51.000 These men did so much.

01:01:52.000 Not only did they do philanthropy with the money that they had, and there are still buildings to Carnegie in New York to these great men.

01:02:00.000 of our society. But you know, you shouldn't tarnish their their image by believing the

01:02:06.000 leftist histrionics on this because this was a great time of American prosperity, right?

01:02:11.000 The tail end of the Industrial Revolution and the height of the progressive era as it came in

01:02:15.000 into the late 1800s, the early 1900s was one of the greatest periods of American history.

01:02:19.000 It was when we had one of the freest immigration systems.

01:02:21.000 Sorry, Trumpers.

01:02:23.000 But it was a time of American free market capitalism.

01:02:26.000 Freewheeling free market capitalism.

01:02:28.000 The best place, the best resources that you can get on this would be the Not So Wild West.

01:02:33.000 You can get that from Mises.

01:02:35.000 And you can also read On the Great Depression, you want to go to fee.org, Foundation for Economic Education, fee.org, and read the myths of the Great Depression.

01:02:46.000 Because we used to have recessions, and we used to have bankruptcies.

01:02:50.000 Banks used to go bankrupt.

01:02:51.000 If a bank was issuing funny money or phony money, doing what the Federal Reserve is doing, they would go bankrupt, right?

01:02:58.000 Yeah, it used to mean something, right?

01:02:59.000 And you'd have liquidation and you'd have competition.

01:03:01.000 Why do we have banks, one bank, setting the interest rate for the entire country?

01:03:05.000 We're all suffering.

01:03:06.000 I was talking to my old sensei down in Old Town.

01:03:08.000 He wants to buy a dojo because he's getting forced out of his dojo and he can't because the interest rates and what they are.

01:03:15.000 But that's one small group of central bankers deciding that.

01:03:20.000 But you could have competition.

01:03:21.000 You could actually have a money market account that you would make money off of if we

01:03:25.000 didn't have a monopoly power.

01:03:27.000 But it's the communist revolution that has taken over in this country.

01:03:32.000 We have instituted the, not only have we instituted the planks of the Communist Manifesto,

01:03:35.000 but we've also instituted the German Workers Party of the 1920s.

01:03:38.000 I won't say their name.

01:03:39.000 We've instituted a lot of their planks as well here.

01:03:42.000 But it is the control of money and credit that is the evil and sidious power that controls us all

01:03:47.000 and prevents us from really instituting the kind of free market capitalism that

01:03:51.000 would lift those people that you're talking about out of poverty.

01:03:54.000 They would have more options.

01:03:55.000 They didn't like a bank, they would be able to go down to the bank next door.

01:03:58.000 Bank of America couldn't cancel, or JPMorgan Chase couldn't cancel.

01:04:01.000 No, no, no, let's talk about war.

01:04:04.000 Let's say we get a decentralized, very anarchic system.

01:04:07.000 Not completely, maybe it's very, very libertarian.

01:04:10.000 Banks are failing and then new ones are emerging.

01:04:12.000 What about, say, communist China?

01:04:15.000 Very, very centralized, very authoritarian, very expansionist.

01:04:19.000 We ignore it.

01:04:20.000 What happens when a Soviet bloc or Chinese Communist Party-style thing starts creating a unipolar world under their footprint? 0.95

01:04:28.000 Do you want to let me answer that?

01:04:32.000 Communism has shown that in the short term it can't have power and it can't have strength.

01:04:37.000 But capitalism has won out in the long term.

01:04:39.000 The mistakes that the neoconservatives made, the people under Bill Buckley and Ronald Reagan, is that they believed that in order to beat communism that we had to adopt Tenants and planks of communism, right?

01:04:49.000 They the the what was the space race and the missile was the arms race between the United States and Russia

01:04:54.000 This was the belief they they believed that capitalism had failed to provide

01:04:59.000 The United States with the type of military strength that was necessary to defeat communism

01:05:04.000 But if you look at any economic measure of Russia It wasn't necessarily the spending on the space race or on

01:05:11.000 the arms race that bankrupted Russia Russia was failing on its own accord and it was a Potemkin 1.00

01:05:16.000 villages that were all across Russia, you know for decades You know their economy was always on the verge of collapse

01:05:21.000 now the neo-communist Conservatives thought that by spending more that they would tip them over they ended up being right But I wouldn't say that one necessarily one correct fact doesn't prove an entire theory, you know free market capitalism Is it a perfect system?

01:05:34.000 No, is it a better system than communism by any standard or measure?

01:05:38.000 So so can communism show its strength in the short term?

01:05:41.000 Sure, you know if you force people it's like, you know, Mussolini got the trains running on time but where did he end up right hanging in it, you know hanging alongside his Yeah, and it doesn't end well for you.

01:05:53.000 Specifically, also, when you look at China, a lot of people are saying, look at all the centralization, look how, you know, Justin Trudeau's like, it's amazing how they could control their economy just at a, at a, what did he say exactly?

01:06:05.000 I forgot the exact term.

01:06:05.000 He said he, like, he admired the fact that they had so much control over their economy.

01:06:08.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:06:09.000 You can sit on a throne of bayonets, but not for long.

01:06:12.000 But at the same time, we have to understand, China's dealing with their own unique problems.

01:06:15.000 Even though Justin Trudeau is looking at them like, yeah, this is great, this is awesome, this is amazing, Bill Gates is complimenting them, they're still dealing with a major housing crisis, with a major infrastructure crisis, a major national resource crisis, a population crisis, a currency crisis, and their society is literally at the brink of collapse because of the centralization and not allowing individuals to be free and creative and to solve the problems that the central controllers are creating.

01:06:41.000 So again, at the end of the day, you know...

01:06:43.000 It all comes down to one thing, though.

01:06:44.000 Government is completely irrelevant with culture.

01:06:47.000 So if you had, uh, let me tell you, you want to know how communism could work?

01:06:51.000 If every single person, every single person within your country,

01:06:56.000 doesn't need...

01:06:56.000 Communist government agreed ideologically on the core principles and tenets and, and, and ideology.

01:07:04.000 So let's say you had, let's say you have a million fundamentalist Christians who all follow the Bible to the T, defer to their religious scholars and theologians for advice.

01:07:15.000 You are going to function very, very well.

01:07:18.000 But the only problem is that's idealistic, not realistic.

01:07:20.000 So invariably what happens is communists say, we can do it as long as everyone just follows the rules.

01:07:26.000 And then someone comes in and says, but Premier, 17% of the population won't.

01:07:31.000 I have an idea. 1.00

01:07:32.000 Let's kill them. 1.00

01:07:32.000 And then that's what you end up getting, the psychotic authoritarian dictatorship. 1.00

01:07:37.000 You will never achieve 100% ideological conformity.

01:07:41.000 So there needs to be a system, I think we've done a really great job in the United States

01:07:45.000 of allowing people of different ideas to kind of come together, but there is an outer limit.

01:07:50.000 At a certain point, you spread so thin, you end up with activists defending conservative

01:07:56.000 Islam in the same breath as LGBTQ education, and then you end up with protests between

01:08:02.000 those groups who are completely at odds with each other.

01:08:04.000 At a certain point, ideologies cannot function under the same umbrella without conflict.

01:08:08.000 conflict without fighting. Yeah, we need more umbrellas, that's for sure. Like this one person represents 70,000

01:08:14.000 people. 700,000 people. Either way, the number's insane.

01:08:18.000 One person represents themselves. I can't represent Luke effectively. There's no way. And one of the main reasons we're

01:08:24.000 facing such big problems here in the United States is because of the centralization, is because of this banking

01:08:29.000 system, because of all the people saying, I am on top of the government, I have all this power, I have all this

01:08:35.000 influence, it's all for me, me, me, me, me.

01:08:38.000 The individual can't solve their problems because there's too much regulations, there's too much taxes, there's too much bureaucracy in the way, standing between the monopolies that are being propped up by the federal government.

01:08:47.000 Because normally people would say, hey, I don't want to be banking at JPMorgan Chase that's financing Jeffrey Epstein.

01:08:52.000 Hey, I don't want to be participating in this larger system.

01:08:56.000 I want another system that works for me better and doesn't create more problems.

01:09:00.000 But now we have a lot of problems because of that centralization.

01:09:02.000 That's a paradox for you, Luke, and I wonder what you think about this, right?

01:09:04.000 So Ian, you know, talked about the representation, right?

01:09:08.000 One person representing 700,000 people, right?

01:09:11.000 So in order to help aid decentralization, should we increase the House of Representatives size in order so that people are more represented, a fewer amount of people per representative?

01:09:23.000 Do you think it's a good idea?

01:09:24.000 Would that actually help our liberty by sending more Congress people to Washington?

01:09:29.000 I haven't thought about it in a long-term perspective.

01:09:31.000 Automatically, my knee-jerk reaction is, hell no!

01:09:34.000 No, no, no, no!

01:09:35.000 I don't want any of that!

01:09:37.000 But I haven't thought about the long-term consequences, and it's a big hypothetical question.

01:09:40.000 Well, here's something, right?

01:09:41.000 I think we would have, what, like 7,000 members of Congress if we scaled for population?

01:09:46.000 So, if more bureaucrats isn't going to do it, What if we whittled everything down to a smaller and smaller number until maybe there was like one person who just ran things for us, and then instead of having to deal with elections, their kids took over once they died, and then that family could just deal with the responsibility.

01:10:04.000 What would that be like?

01:10:06.000 We'd end up with Meghan Markle.

01:10:10.000 I got a better idea.

01:10:11.000 What if we create an idea of government that is called a representative democracy, but in reality secret corporations behind the scenes and bankers really control all the shots, and we give people this pretend ability that they actually have a voice and that their vote actually matters, and then actually we just do whatever the hell we want, which is exactly what the hell is happening right now.

01:10:32.000 This was the plutonomy report we talked about a little while ago, came out a long time ago, that basically Powerful interests control the economy and the government and the opinion of the public is meaningless.

01:10:43.000 They did a study, they found something like if public opinion is like 100% in favor of an idea, it won't matter about the bill being passed.

01:10:51.000 It's only when 60% of like the wealthiest individuals support an idea does it become law.

01:10:56.000 Exactly, and it's all a scam.

01:10:57.000 And when you look at what the government's doing right now, they're not upholding the Constitution.

01:11:01.000 They're doing whatever they want.

01:11:02.000 They're taking brute force.

01:11:04.000 Anyone standing in their way, they either get thrown in jail, they get audited by the IRS, or they get totally screwed over where they don't even have the ability to speak on social media.

01:11:13.000 Another paradox, though, but Tim, you've identified something there when you talk about when 60% of the wealthy and the powerful people have an idea, then only, and only then can it become law.

01:11:22.000 I mean, wasn't the Constitutional Convention just the wealthy elites of the United States gathering together in secret, putting together a document that would govern all of us?

01:11:29.000 Yes, and here's the best part.

01:11:31.000 In some of these state conventions, they weren't even legitimately elected by the state.

01:11:35.000 It was people in the state who agreed with independence who elected someone to go down, and the people who weren't in favor of it had no idea.

01:11:42.000 So it is fascinating.

01:11:44.000 But you know, look, Constitution of no authority, right, Luke? 0.92

01:11:49.000 I mean, it was Plato that, you know, the penalty for failing to be involved in politics is to be ruled by the ignorant or something. 0.89

01:11:54.000 By your inferiors. 0.86

01:11:55.000 By your inferiors.

01:11:56.000 So, for the people who cared and paid attention and were saying, we need to fight this problem, and they got active, and they set the standard, well then, good for them.

01:12:03.000 That's the people who fight, the people who participate.

01:12:05.000 And that's what our government really was supposed to be, right?

01:12:07.000 And that's why we have an electoral college. 0.80

01:12:09.000 Have you ever been an elector?

01:12:11.000 Have any of you ever been electors?

01:12:13.000 So I went through the process to become an elector for Ron Paul in New York, and you have to go through a series of processes in order to actually become a person who is going to be allowed to vote.

01:12:25.000 And I like that, right?

01:12:26.000 So the Democrats talk about, you know, oh, we need to reduce barriers to voting.

01:12:30.000 I don't agree with that.

01:12:31.000 I like the idea that the people who show up to vote on issues are the most informed, they're the most educated, they're the most involved.

01:12:38.000 That the people who only show up to vote once every four years are not dictating to the rest of us how things should be.

01:12:45.000 You should have to show up at council meetings.

01:12:47.000 You should have to put your name down on a piece of paper.

01:12:49.000 And government should go to those who show up.

01:12:53.000 So service guarantees citizenship?

01:12:58.000 I'm not entirely opposed to that.

01:12:59.000 I'm not entirely opposed to the idea that being able to govern, that you have to participate or perform some form of public service.

01:13:07.000 You're familiar with Starship Trooper.

01:13:08.000 The only good bug is a dead bug.

01:13:11.000 But I think the idea is actually very much worth exploring.

01:13:14.000 I wouldn't say I'm definitive on it.

01:13:16.000 The idea that service guarantees citizenship.

01:13:18.000 Basically, everybody gets full constitutional rights, but if you want to vote in the system, you have to have provided some kind of service, be it community service, military service.

01:13:28.000 Just contribute.

01:13:29.000 Just contribute.

01:13:30.000 So, a lot of people think that phrase means military.

01:13:32.000 No, no, no, it means you could be like a lifeguard.

01:13:34.000 It's like, you're a part of the system to help make it work, you can vote.

01:13:38.000 But if you're not involved, and if you're not involved in it, why would you be voting on what everyone else is doing?

01:13:45.000 Yeah. 1.00

01:13:45.000 So I think that's interesting because right now one of the problems we have is that Democrats absolutely rely on stupid people and exploiting stupid people. 1.00

01:13:53.000 Republicans, for a while, did too. 1.00

01:13:56.000 The Uniparty was one big machine that exploited the stupidity of the entire country. 1.00

01:14:00.000 Ignorance, ignorant people. 1.00

01:14:02.000 Ignorant people. 1.00

01:14:03.000 Definitely a better way to phrase it. 0.93

01:14:04.000 Now you have A rising faction, the children of the Ron Paul love revolution and others, who are paying attention, questioning what the government is doing, demanding answers as to why it's being done in their name, wondering where their money is going, and this is creating a very serious problem for Uniparty, but it's also creating a new faction of people who are like, hey, maybe we shouldn't be invading foreign countries, wasting our money on this stuff, maybe we should focus on ourselves.

01:14:28.000 But then you very much have what the Democrat Party goes after, and that's people who don't pay attention and just do whatever they're told makes them fit in.

01:14:35.000 What they feel.

01:14:35.000 What makes them fit in.

01:14:36.000 Luke, you must have really loved watching the MAGA Trumpers destroy the neocons and seeing the new Republican Party, because when you and I were activists for Ron Paul in New York City together from around 2008 to 2012, our greatest enemy were the neoconservatives.

01:14:50.000 We were fighting against the bushy Republicans.

01:14:52.000 We were fighting against The David Frums.

01:14:54.000 We were fighting against the Bill Crystals.

01:14:56.000 And then Donald Trump came in and accomplished what you and I had been trying to do for years.

01:15:01.000 And now we have the situation where maybe we don't agree always with the stated aims of MAGA Trumpers.

01:15:06.000 You know, the populism does lend itself to a form of Republican Socialism that you and I might not agree with.

01:15:11.000 But isn't it fascinating now that our opponents have shifted and that no longer the neocons are a shadow of what they once were?

01:15:20.000 We're no longer worried about Mitt Romney.

01:15:21.000 And they joined the Democratic Party?

01:15:23.000 Yes, where they came from.

01:15:25.000 The neoconservatives came in from in the 1970s.

01:15:28.000 I'm not gonna say I wasn't entertained, but any kind of political infighting is always great to me, because when politicians and governments are fighting each other, they're not fighting the people, which they're usually doing.

01:15:39.000 But at the same time, you know, Donald Trump did put in John Bolton.

01:15:42.000 John Bolton was also that key person that we were protesting against and standing up

01:15:45.000 against because his viewpoint was absolutely insane.

01:15:51.000 But to bring it back to the point that we were just discussing here, you know, we look

01:15:55.000 at history 500 years ago, and we look at people and we kind of think that they were backwards

01:15:59.000 because they had a king and a monarch.

01:16:01.000 I think from 500 years from now, we're going to be looking back at the people now and be 1.00

01:16:04.000 like, these idiots believed in the presidential scam? 1.00

01:16:07.000 I can't believe they allowed them to get away with this and didn't have personal responsibility 1.00

01:16:12.000 and live their lives to their own kind.

01:16:13.000 Hold on, hold on.

01:16:14.000 Here's what's going to happen.

01:16:15.000 In a hundred years, we're all going to be brainlinked, in Neuralink, in Mark Zuckerberg Zuckerverse, and then we're all going to be like, everything has always been good.

01:16:24.000 Mark Zuckerberg has always been our leader.

01:16:26.000 That's a little bit of a negative.

01:16:28.000 Visualization.

01:16:29.000 I like to be a little bit more of a, you know, positive person.

01:16:34.000 And I think we do dictate our own reality with some of the thoughts that we create in our minds.

01:16:39.000 And we should always be positive.

01:16:40.000 All right.

01:16:41.000 Let me flip this one then.

01:16:42.000 It's a hundred years.

01:16:43.000 We're all floating around in our anti-grav boots with our brains connected to the neural link, praising the Zuckerverse when a ragtag group of Rutkowskians break into the main server farm for the Zuckerverse and take out the main central server. 1.00

01:16:57.000 And all of a sudden everyone just goes, I'm free!"

01:17:00.000 And then all of the children of the Luke Rydkowski revolution are like, a great man brought us here.

01:17:04.000 And they're holding a picture of an old man Luke, smiling and giving a thumbs up.

01:17:08.000 Stop with the fighting!

01:17:10.000 Peaceful resolution and learn to respect other people and not hurt them and not steal from them.

01:17:15.000 If we just had those two principles, life would be amazing.

01:17:18.000 Alright, then here's what it is.

01:17:19.000 It's a hundred years, everyone's floating around their Zuckerverse programs, and then

01:17:23.000 a Rakowskian peacefully walks in and delivers a crystal.

01:17:27.000 And the Zuckerbergians are like, what's this?

01:17:29.000 And then all of a sudden a pulse of energy goes out, shutting the servers down, and everyone

01:17:33.000 says, you have awakened us, Luke.

01:17:34.000 You have saved us, and we are grateful, and everyone hugs.

01:17:36.000 Listen, the Zucker lizards are not going to be in charge here, okay? 0.92

01:17:40.000 Free humanity usually prevails, and if you look at human history, we have been making progressions.

01:17:45.000 Progressions towards more liberty, more freedom, more decentralization.

01:17:49.000 I think we need more of it, and I think when we have that, we have human progression.

01:17:53.000 Luke, do you find yourself now, like, more in agreement and happier that the more Pat Buchananite-style Republicans, the populist Republicans, are more of the of the majority of the Republican Party versus the neoconservatives, knowing that neoconservatives tend to agree with us libertarians on things like the war on drugs and on immigration, and that the MAGA Trump, like, national conservative types do not agree with us on immigration, they do not agree with us on the war on drugs and social issues and things like that.

01:18:24.000 Do you find yourself, you know, happier now that the more Buchananites are the... the absurd that you can work with them more than, like, the Romneyites or the... Personally, I'm not a fan of any politician.

01:18:33.000 I think all of them should have their feet to the fire.

01:18:35.000 I'm critical of all of them.

01:18:36.000 And during the Trump era, I was very critical of them.

01:18:39.000 And just like I am with anyone in power, because I think anyone in power always deserves criticism.

01:18:45.000 And I think the more we do that, the better government is.

01:18:49.000 Fundamentalist, right?

01:18:51.000 Like I am, right?

01:18:52.000 So we both believe in, like, the free market, the unfettered free market power.

01:18:56.000 I'm not as rigid in my point of views.

01:18:58.000 I'm a lot more flexible, especially when it comes to a case-by-case basis, because I think it all depends on the current circumstances, because when you look at immigration, you've also got to factor in welfare.

01:19:07.000 You also have to factor in, you know, the tax system we have right now that's taking our money away and incentivizing a lot of this stuff.

01:19:13.000 So then we can't legalize drugs because people might use welfare money to buy drugs then, right?

01:19:18.000 No, that's a very, you know, that's a very kind of layered argument there.

01:19:21.000 Look, I got you there, buddy!

01:19:22.000 No, no, no, no, I'm saying everything's by case-by-case basis, but at the end of the day, I think I always lean towards less government, less regulations, less taxes, less centralization, less bureaucracy.

01:19:35.000 Less welfare, less drug laws.

01:19:37.000 I'm just fascinated by the discussion on the right that is, you know, the abandonment of free market principles and the advocacy of many of these national conservatives.

01:19:44.000 It just comes down to one thing.

01:19:45.000 The right needs to understand.

01:19:47.000 The laws are meaningless.

01:19:48.000 The culture is everything.

01:19:50.000 And the example I'd like to give is that you can have a law on the book like you can't protest at an abortion clinic.

01:19:58.000 And you can have another law on the book.

01:20:00.000 You can't protest at a judge's house.

01:20:02.000 But if your culture only enforces one thing, the laws are irrelevant.

01:20:06.000 What are we seeing?

01:20:07.000 We had, I think, eleven or twelve pro-lifers arrested for protesting at an abortion clinic.

01:20:12.000 None of the protesters at the judge's house got arrested.

01:20:15.000 That's a cultural problem.

01:20:16.000 I don't think that the laws are irrelevant, but I think I would agree with you that the culture is more important.

01:20:21.000 I do think that the culture war needs to happen and we need to be at the forefront.

01:20:25.000 And I'm glad that's why you're doing what you're doing.

01:20:26.000 I'm just saying that if this whole country All completely agreed on cultural issues, you would have no crime.

01:20:34.000 Yeah, true.

01:20:35.000 But because they don't, starving people.

01:20:37.000 Don't know about that.

01:20:38.000 I don't mean quite literally.

01:20:40.000 I mean, for the most part, crime would be dramatically gone.

01:20:43.000 It would be minuscule.

01:20:44.000 There would be acts of desperation.

01:20:46.000 But the issue is we don't view each other as neighbors, and it's a question of the morals of the culture.

01:20:52.000 If this entire country was staunchly Christian and conservative, like many of the more libertarian, MAGA-type Christians, then there'd probably be no crime. 0.83

01:21:01.000 Everybody would be more fearful.

01:21:03.000 Again, lesser crime, but to an extreme degree.

01:21:05.000 Yes, definitely.

01:21:06.000 So, I'll put it this way.

01:21:08.000 Without law, how would you call it a crime?

01:21:11.000 Well, it's not just that.

01:21:13.000 If everybody held the ideology of Jack Posobiec and his family, you're gonna have very little crime if anything, people are gonna work, and they're gonna try to find ways to get along.

01:21:21.000 I'm just using Jack, I'm using you as an example.

01:21:23.000 Yeah, but if Jack was in desperate poverty and his family was suffering and starving,

01:21:27.000 his children were starving, he'd probably steal food for his kids.

01:21:30.000 No, because Jack's ideology is communal giving and support.

01:21:34.000 He's in a position to be able to have that.

01:21:35.000 And that means, this is my point, if everybody agreed on how it should work, then you have

01:21:40.000 a functioning homogenized system.

01:21:42.000 I'm saying it's impossible.

01:21:44.000 So but the point is, when, right, when this country has a culture that to a great degree,

01:21:49.000 like 80% is held by everybody, then you're going to have things where people are all

01:21:54.000 basically in agreement and not arguing with each other.

01:21:56.000 You're not gonna have culture conflict.

01:21:58.000 You're not gonna have religious fighting and things like that because everyone- But you have to get rid of other people's religions. 1.00

01:22:03.000 That would be a problem.

01:22:05.000 But get rid of, if we're in a place like we are now, which is the challenge we face.

01:22:09.000 What I'm saying is, a long, long time ago, when you had very small tribes, They all agree with each other.

01:22:14.000 As you scale it and get bigger and add different ideologies to the mix, you start getting internal conflict.

01:22:17.000 We have what's called inter-species conflict.

01:22:20.000 It's culture shock.

01:22:21.000 This is global culture shock.

01:22:22.000 This is what happens when cultures mingle, and it all happened between 2007 to 2022.

01:22:25.000 We're experiencing this massive consciousness shock.

01:22:27.000 God, yes.

01:22:27.000 2007 to 2022 we're experiencing this massive consciousness shock. Yes. You're so right our phones. Yeah. No, you're

01:22:34.000 right You come into conflict with people just by virtue of being around them and hearing their views, right?

01:22:40.000 And people struggle with that.

01:22:42.000 It's difficult.

01:22:42.000 When I came into D.C.

01:22:43.000 from Missouri the other day, it was shocking to go from rural Missouri to Washington, D.C., and to be into this culture.

01:22:51.000 You have to shift your attitudes.

01:22:52.000 You've got to get along with these people and interact with them in a way that they want to interact.

01:22:57.000 When you go and buy something at a checkout line here, you better move fast.

01:23:00.000 You better make your decision right away.

01:23:01.000 But in Missouri, you can take your time.

01:23:03.000 You can hear what they have to say, right?

01:23:05.000 And when you go to Missouri, you better get along with how Missourians are.

01:23:08.000 So you're absolutely correct that this is an international culture shock.

01:23:11.000 The internet has facilitated it, right?

01:23:13.000 Mass communication.

01:23:14.000 But also just mass travel.

01:23:15.000 You know, a hundred years ago, it wasn't easy for people of modest means to be able to get in a Airbus, and go around the world and travel together.

01:23:23.000 So we are experiencing the long-term kind of ramifications of, you know, these face-to-face interactions that were not possible before, right?

01:23:30.000 Because what Tim was saying with the tribes that all lived together, they were homogenous, they all lived together.

01:23:34.000 But we live in a heterogeneous world, and we've all got to figure out a way to live together, not just here in the United States between ourselves, but internationally as well.

01:23:41.000 And that's a problem.

01:23:42.000 That's why there's conflict, and that's why there's war.

01:23:44.000 I don't believe in utopia, right?

01:23:46.000 That literally means no place.

01:23:48.000 Right, so I don't think that there will ever be that situation, that there's no crime.

01:23:51.000 I don't even believe that, like you said, if most people, you know, agreed on everything and had Jack Postovic's views, that there would be no crime.

01:23:58.000 I think, you know, mental illness and other factors would involve people.

01:24:02.000 Crimes of passion, cheating.

01:24:03.000 Hold on, obviously I'm not saying there's not going to be deviation and fault.

01:24:07.000 I'm saying there's a lot of conflict bred by people who don't view each other as neighbors.

01:24:11.000 They don't view each other, they don't agree on morality.

01:24:14.000 There are people who believe children should get sex changes and people who don't.

01:24:18.000 If everybody agreed on the core issues, then your conflicts would be minimal.

01:24:22.000 They would exist obviously because mental illness exists and poverty exists, of course. 0.74

01:24:26.000 I just think people are rebellious.

01:24:28.000 People just like oppositional defiance disorder.

01:24:32.000 Like, when you're this, I want to be that, right?

01:24:35.000 I think that that's kind of like our childish nature, right?

01:24:38.000 But there's something to that, and a new culture would develop.

01:24:41.000 You'd never be able to create a real monoculture because people want to create a culture within a culture.

01:24:46.000 It's the reason why different sects of Christianity exist, right? 0.92

01:24:49.000 And because of the telephone game, everybody's going to interpret what they hear.

01:24:54.000 It doesn't matter.

01:24:56.000 We have more sources and availability of information, and yet we have more misunderstanding and disunderstanding.

01:25:02.000 That's because you have evil people.

01:25:04.000 True.

01:25:04.000 Look, you have people who intentionally lie to gain political power.

01:25:10.000 They won't have conversations.

01:25:11.000 They won't engage.

01:25:12.000 They claim to be socialists, but they buy mansions, things like that. 0.96

01:25:15.000 And there's a lot of sociopaths.

01:25:17.000 And where do the sociopaths usually gather?

01:25:19.000 At the largest positions of power.

01:25:20.000 So I think this is why we need to have less positions of power over everyone's life.

01:25:24.000 Because at the end of the day, the government is looking at people and saying, you, the people, can't be trusted.

01:25:28.000 Well, what's the government made of?

01:25:30.000 The people!

01:25:31.000 Of individuals who are not perfect, who shouldn't be trusted.

01:25:33.000 And of course, a high level of sociopaths, which are located in Washington, D.C., more per capita than anywhere else in Washington, D.C., are the ones controlling your life, telling you what to do?

01:25:43.000 No!

01:25:43.000 I don't want that.

01:25:44.000 The paradox I have is I don't like representative democracy very much because you can't represent me properly I need to represent myself but I'm also concerned with mob mentality and mob rule because if we don't have people in charge then the mob can switch on a dime from an internet video and go vote some crazy new murder and so like at what point do you have to or should you give over your authority to someone else?

01:26:10.000 I don't think you should.

01:26:11.000 I think you should be personally responsible for yourself, and I think... Grandma can't always stay at the farm to make sure that nobody steals her chickens, so she's going to have to grant authority to the local police to be able to do something like that for you.

01:26:22.000 People are going to divest their authority to someone else, and there's always going to be that transfer of power from one person to another, and that's going to happen voluntarily, right?

01:26:30.000 You know, the more voluntarily, the better.

01:26:32.000 But I wanted to tell you a brief story about the early days of the internet.

01:26:35.000 Some of you probably know this.

01:26:35.000 I bet you, Tim, you will.

01:26:37.000 But talking about misinformation and disinformation, they found that the way to prevent people from falling for fake news in the early days of internet forums was to actually create more fake news.

01:26:48.000 And I wish that this would get more publicity because it was talked, they wrote about it

01:26:51.000 in Wired Magazine, because people would post when they would ask questions about how to,

01:26:55.000 you know, install their sound card or modem or whatever.

01:26:59.000 Put the wrong, you're saying to put the wrong, the wrong thing down.

01:27:01.000 They would deliberately give the wrong information.

01:27:03.000 They would flood the boards with disinformation because what they found was that the more

01:27:09.000 disinformation, the more people adjusted to realize, I need to be skeptical and now I

01:27:14.000 know that I need to check my information before I do it because I know that that's out there.

01:27:21.000 That's why I don't believe in internet censorship.

01:27:23.000 That's why I think Alex Jones should be on Twitter.

01:27:25.000 That's why I think, you know, anybody, more information is good, even disinformation, because people will naturally make mistakes.

01:27:32.000 And that's why they're getting rid of it.

01:27:34.000 I think that that has diminishing, maybe diminishing return, because if a parent's like, I'm lying to you because I love you, to teach you how to learn to deal with lies. 0.97

01:27:44.000 What if their kid sucks?

01:27:45.000 Like parents who tell their kids Santa's real, and then eventually the kid learns through being mocked by their friends that their parents lied to them and it made them a laughingstock. 0.99

01:27:54.000 Yeah, that happened to me.

01:27:55.000 And it didn't help.

01:27:56.000 I hear a lot of these stories where parents, you know, tell their kids Easter Bunny, Tooth Fairy, Santa.

01:28:02.000 Then they go to school, and eventually what happens is one group of parents determines five is too old to believe in Santa, another parent says seven is too old. 0.91

01:28:11.000 That six-year-old then meets the other six-year-old, and they start making fun of him, saying, you're so dumb you believe in Santa, we learned that a long time ago, the kid gets mad, it's my parents lied to me. 0.88

01:28:20.000 And then they're gonna be like, my parents play tricks on me for reasons I don't understand.

01:28:24.000 So you gotta be careful about these traditions too.

01:28:27.000 I see your point about learning how to discern between truth and lies, though.

01:28:30.000 If you're never lied to, then how will you know if someone's lying to you, or how will you know lies can happen?

01:28:34.000 Well, it's like one amazing Randy, James Randy, he used to participate in experiments, not experiments, but they would actually go to tribes in Africa and deliberately trick them, pretend to be witch doctors.

01:28:46.000 And they did it in order to show them that, hey, the medicine men who come through here are just trying to screw you over.

01:28:52.000 So they showed them the tricks of the trade.

01:28:54.000 Remember when they used to go and they would look like they were pulling out some evil from their guts and things like that?

01:28:59.000 They would go and do these magic shows, and Penn and Teller did this all the time, in order to show that they were being fooled.

01:29:05.000 I mean, Penn and Teller are probably the most famous for that.

01:29:08.000 But I think that there's value in that, in deliberately deceiving in order to inform and educate.

01:29:15.000 I think that that's a legitimate strategy.

01:29:16.000 But I also think that it happens by default.

01:29:18.000 That's why, you know, disinformation online, misinformation, conspiracy theories, whatever it is, everything should be allowed as long, you know, other than perhaps threats of direct violence. 0.98

01:29:27.000 I'm going to kill you. 0.76

01:29:28.000 Like if Ethan had said, no, I'm going to put you in the camps or whatever to... On this day, at this time. 1.00

01:29:33.000 That becomes imminent when you specify a day and a time.

01:29:36.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:29:37.000 But otherwise, it should be anything goes in order that people might be educated. 0.98

01:29:42.000 I don't think Ethan should be suspended for being a dick. 0.97

01:29:45.000 I think it should be allowed. 1.00

01:29:46.000 He was being a dick, though. 0.98

01:29:49.000 I think he was trying to be funny, but he failed. 0.99

01:29:52.000 I think he was trying to be funny, but it wasn't funny.

01:29:54.000 I understand the point he was trying to make.

01:29:56.000 I think it was crude, and I think he should be allowed to say it.

01:30:00.000 Look, I gotta be honest, I wouldn't boycott him over it.

01:30:02.000 I wouldn't cancel him over it.

01:30:03.000 I'd be like, come on, bro.

01:30:04.000 And then I'd move on with my life.

01:30:05.000 There's some weird people out there. 0.97

01:30:07.000 My buddy Joe, who's with me tonight, was telling me about this Jewish friend of his and she's like, I think Jews should be sent off. 1.00

01:30:12.000 And he's like, well, you are a Jew. 0.92

01:30:14.000 And she's like, and I would be, I would round them all up and I would be the last one to go.

01:30:18.000 She's like, what?

01:30:18.000 I'm not kidding.

01:30:21.000 You probably know who this person is, but I won't say the name, but I'm just saying that, like, you know, you ought to be able to post something like that. 0.97

01:30:26.000 You ought to be able to say something like that because it's ridiculous. 0.53

01:30:28.000 Well, the best thing, here's the thing. 0.99

01:30:30.000 The best way for us to know who the crazy people are is to let them say it. 0.99

01:30:34.000 How are we supposed to know who's crazy, who's a dick, who's a racist? 0.99

01:30:38.000 Let me tell you a story. 0.99

01:30:40.000 It's like the bake the cake thing.

01:30:42.000 Let me tell you a story.

01:30:43.000 We want to know who the homophobes are.

01:30:44.000 Let me tell you a story.

01:30:46.000 I went to Europe.

01:30:47.000 And I was at a protest, I think it was for Count Dankula or something, and I was having a conversation about an individual in the United States.

01:30:55.000 And I said, this individual has said racial slurs before.

01:30:58.000 And this British guy goes, no he hasn't.

01:31:00.000 And then I was like, it was a passive comment.

01:31:02.000 And I was like, yeah, you know, when the dude goes on his show and starts saying X, Y, and Z, it's kind of like you're going too far.

01:31:06.000 And this guy goes, he never said that.

01:31:08.000 And I was like, yeah, he did.

01:31:09.000 I was like, it was like a big thing.

01:31:11.000 They made a bunch of stories about it.

01:31:12.000 They said he was pushing the boundaries.

01:31:13.000 And he goes, BS, you made that up.

01:31:15.000 And I grabbed my phone.

01:31:16.000 I'm in London.

01:31:17.000 And I Google it.

01:31:18.000 Nothing comes up.

01:31:19.000 And I'm like, where's the story?

01:31:21.000 I scrolled down to the bottom and it said, due to offensive posts or whatever, they've been removed.

01:31:25.000 And I'm like, yo, I can't even prove that this guy said these things, and this guy thinks I'm lying about it now.

01:31:33.000 Exactly.

01:31:33.000 That's insane.

01:31:34.000 The censorship actually helped the racist guy.

01:31:36.000 That's happened to me before too, yeah. 0.93

01:31:38.000 Because they pulled down posts and I'm like, hey, this guy was lying about this, he said this back in the day, and then they went and they pulled it, and it's like, Damn, I can't prove that this is misinformation.

01:31:46.000 Think about this real quick.

01:31:48.000 Alex Jones, when he got banned, they didn't just silence him, they deleted everything he ever said on the platform.

01:31:53.000 So he can't even comply with Discovery right now, but a bigger point to censorship, it helps out radical voices.

01:31:58.000 It makes people more radical.

01:32:00.000 More extreme than they would normally be, because now, to speak, they have to go to the far corners of the internet, where all of this is a safe space, and they just keep pushing and pushing, you know, the envelope.

01:32:11.000 Creating niches.

01:32:14.000 To the craziest point that they can.

01:32:15.000 If you really want to dispel it, you counter it.

01:32:18.000 There's bad information, you counter it with good information.

01:32:21.000 Governments need enemies, and that's why the whole, like, domestic terrorist, white supremacist thing, right?

01:32:25.000 They fashion it, right?

01:32:26.000 That's why Ray Epps, right?

01:32:27.000 They fashion it, they have to fabricate it, if they can't, if it doesn't come naturally.

01:32:33.000 It's like racism, right?

01:32:34.000 The demand for racism has outstripped the supply.

01:32:37.000 I think governments need opponents and opposition.

01:32:40.000 Whether or not it becomes an enemy is kind of like, we don't want it to become an enemy, that's why we are our own opposition.

01:32:46.000 We're gonna go to Super Chats.

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01:32:55.000 Let's read what we got.

01:32:57.000 Josh says, Alex Jones has to colonize Mars, then gift it to the families.

01:33:01.000 It's the only way.

01:33:03.000 Or, or, hold on, hear me out.

01:33:05.000 Alex Jones could conquer France.

01:33:07.000 Oh my god.

01:33:08.000 And then turn it over, you know.

01:33:10.000 You can just have France. 0.79

01:33:14.000 Canada.

01:33:14.000 You gotta take Canada.

01:33:15.000 Mimic says nonsense.

01:33:16.000 If he is in order to pay at least eleventy-seventeen gazillion dollars, there is obviously no justice in this country.

01:33:22.000 He did an interview with Ping Trip, which looks like a fake interview.

01:33:24.000 It's pretty well done.

01:33:25.000 And he was like, why didn't they just do a quadrillion, man?

01:33:28.000 And he didn't say man, that was mean.

01:33:30.000 Quadrillion! 0.63

01:33:31.000 What are they waiting by?

01:33:32.000 Why stop?

01:33:33.000 Maximus Reedus said, you defend Ethan's threat, not Kanye saying our word.

01:33:38.000 I think both were crass and both should be allowed.

01:33:41.000 It's not hard.

01:33:42.000 Yeah, it's free speech.

01:33:43.000 Yeah, Kanye, I actually, I think what Kanye said was funny, but it was crass, but I also think it's going to get a lot of young people to vote against Democrats.

01:33:50.000 Yeah, did you see Pierce's face right after that?

01:33:55.000 Yeah, all right.

01:33:56.000 Scruffy Knight says, the gay cake issue mentioned last night is not complicated.

01:34:00.000 Cakes are a works of art, especially custom.

01:34:03.000 You cannot compel someone to make a work of art, especially with politics opposed by the artist.

01:34:07.000 Simple as that.

01:34:08.000 I never liked that argument just because it's sort of, it legitimizes the law, right, where the Civil Rights Act of 1964's Title II, you know, attempts to make these delineations right in terms of discrimination.

01:34:20.000 Because I really do think that it should just simply be a private property issue, not that we need to get into, oh, is this a work of art or that a work of art?

01:34:29.000 Because what you're doing there is you're allowing the government to start to, you know, to make the delineation between what is art and what isn't art.

01:34:36.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:34:37.000 says, Tim, a year ago was members meetup.

01:34:39.000 Twas a good time.

01:34:40.000 Luke went off on stage.

01:34:42.000 Ian convinced me to be me and drop Turk Longwell.

01:34:45.000 Shout out to everyone who was there.

01:34:46.000 You still owe me $13 for name tags.

01:34:49.000 Well, maybe we'll do another members meetup soon, and we will get you back that $13.

01:34:54.000 Let's do it.

01:34:55.000 I loved it.

01:34:56.000 It was great energy.

01:34:56.000 It was fun.

01:34:57.000 I remember I went on stage and just started screaming.

01:35:00.000 We jammed, played some music.

01:35:01.000 People in the comments are like, Luke, stop yelling.

01:35:03.000 I never started yelling yet.

01:35:05.000 You don't get how crazy I could get.

01:35:08.000 AI says, shirt idea for Luke.

01:35:10.000 Where is James Gordon Meek?

01:35:12.000 That is crazy.

01:35:13.000 Yeah?

01:35:13.000 Where is that guy?

01:35:15.000 It's kind of a serious matter.

01:35:17.000 I don't know if I want to profit off something like that.

01:35:20.000 I think we need to make, you know, hold on, make the situation, you know, wait, wait, hear me out.

01:35:26.000 It's James Gordon Meek with Joe Biden with his hands over his shoulder, leaning him, sniffing him and James looking over like, you know, like too early, too early.

01:35:35.000 Let's let's find him first.

01:35:36.000 Let's find out what happened to him first before making any kind of T-shirt, please.

01:35:41.000 Well, all right, then.

01:35:43.000 All right.

01:35:44.000 Idiosyncrasy Media Group says, I was inspired by you guys to make something new.

01:35:48.000 For the last year, I've been teaching myself how to animate so I can animate an original TV show.

01:35:52.000 It's called Who Killed Mr. Jones?

01:35:54.000 Today, we released the theme song and launched a Kickstarter for it.

01:35:57.000 Nice.

01:35:57.000 Cool.

01:35:58.000 Kudos.

01:35:59.000 I had a joke I wanted to do with Seamus, but it was just too hard to do, and it was, um, Alex Jones and Me.

01:36:04.000 You know the song by Counting Crows, Mr. Jones?

01:36:07.000 I know it well.

01:36:07.000 I was just like, that song!

01:36:09.000 Tell each other fairy tales!

01:36:11.000 It's perfect!

01:36:13.000 Here's the problem.

01:36:14.000 The song is wild and all over the place, and I think, I don't know if Seamus ever did it, but, like, the writing lyrics to it was just weird to try and sing, because the song's weird as it is.

01:36:25.000 I could definitely sing it.

01:36:26.000 I know it very well.

01:36:27.000 Go ahead.

01:36:28.000 Right now?

01:36:28.000 Go.

01:36:31.000 Computer just spazzed out, that was weird.

01:36:33.000 I'm telling you, we are electric beings.

01:36:35.000 That was wild.

01:36:36.000 girl mr. Jones of a conversation black hair and me meters on the fritz answer

01:36:44.000 I've not a computer just spazzed out it that was weird that was me singing

01:36:49.000 bringing the energy as soon as he started saying the computers are fritzing out

01:36:52.000 I'm telling you electric we are electric beings that was wild

01:36:55.000 yeah that was I lost control of the computer completely power cycle you like

01:36:59.000 me now it's probably the government It was me channeling God's spirit energy and it'll keep happening and it'll keep getting more powerful, so be prepared.

01:37:09.000 Get a Faraday cage on.

01:37:10.000 Is it an imminent threat?

01:37:11.000 No, no, I'm just letting you know ahead of time.

01:37:15.000 TheLifeofD says, isn't this against the Eighth Amendment?

01:37:18.000 Cruel and unusual punishments?

01:37:20.000 Ian singing? 0.99

01:37:20.000 I hope that didn't sound like crap on this mic, man. 0.99

01:37:25.000 It was fine. 0.89

01:37:26.000 It was all right.

01:37:27.000 It was horrible.

01:37:27.000 Yeah.

01:37:30.000 Okay.

01:37:31.000 Let's see.

01:37:32.000 Samuel Brucker says they dignify Alex Jones by making him a nation.

01:37:36.000 That's right.

01:37:37.000 He has to pay the GDP of France.

01:37:41.000 I feel like they were definitely saying that with the finger next to their mouth like this.

01:37:45.000 Yeah.

01:37:45.000 Doing the Dr. Evil face.

01:37:46.000 Tommy Tampon says, I want to be a subscriber for 80 years.

01:37:50.000 Tim cast at $1,000 a month, but I heard Ian was a conservative, so I can't.

01:37:53.000 Oh no, that's twice now.

01:37:54.000 Wow.

01:37:55.000 That's a lot of money there.

01:37:55.000 That's a lot of money we lost.

01:37:57.000 That's a couple million dollars right there.

01:37:58.000 Added to the totals.

01:38:01.000 All right.

01:38:02.000 Teddy Henkelman says, Yo Tim, my family and I are traveling to Arkansas from Illinois for my lady's birthday and we decided to listen to you live.

01:38:09.000 Can you give Sarah a shout out?

01:38:10.000 Shout out Sarah! 0.99

01:38:12.000 Sarah.

01:38:13.000 Thanks for watching the show.

01:38:14.000 We have a chicken named Sarah.

01:38:15.000 She's a good chicken. 1.00

01:38:16.000 She's a Brahma. 1.00

01:38:17.000 Happy birthday.

01:38:18.000 She got sick, but she's okay.

01:38:20.000 We have more information on Roberto Jr.' 's mom, Katerina.

01:38:23.000 She had cancer.

01:38:23.000 We were worried it was Marek's disease or something it's called.

01:38:27.000 Turns out it was just typical old cancer.

01:38:29.000 Took poor Katerina at a very young age.

01:38:31.000 It was in her egg sac and, you know, it's a sad story.

01:38:35.000 Stress?

01:38:36.000 Jump by the boys?

01:38:37.000 No, she just had cancer.

01:38:38.000 Sometimes it happens, man.

01:38:40.000 We got the chickens checked out, like everything's good.

01:38:43.000 The other chickens are fine, but You know, she had one son.

01:38:47.000 I think she only had one kid, and it's Roberto Jr.

01:38:49.000 So we're really worried now, and we're gonna, we're probably gonna, we want to make sure we don't lose her genetic line, so... We gotta make sure that Roberto Jr.

01:38:57.000 has many children.

01:38:59.000 Yeah, he's gotta be a dad soon.

01:39:00.000 So we have to wait a little bit, because it's only October, so we probably have to wait until mid-December to start incubating a batch of eggs.

01:39:07.000 But Roberto Jr.' 's gonna have a lot of babies.

01:39:09.000 And then Katerina will live on through her son. 0.70

01:39:12.000 There you go.

01:39:12.000 Chickens.

01:39:13.000 They'll live forever.

01:39:15.000 Aaron Heiner says, are you going to talk about Steve Bannon being sentenced to four months in prison?

01:39:20.000 Man, we really just kind of went off.

01:39:22.000 There's going to be no way to split this up today.

01:39:25.000 Luckily, we didn't get into the Rhodes.

01:39:27.000 It was close.

01:39:28.000 It almost happened.

01:39:29.000 Man, we should, dude, because that's what the Vanderbilt problem of the robber barons is.

01:39:32.000 He could just shut off access to New York City because he owned the railroad.

01:39:36.000 Luke, are you going to go as Rhodes for Halloween?

01:39:38.000 I could.

01:39:39.000 That's a good idea.

01:39:40.000 I already have a costume now.

01:39:43.000 Jonathan Lenneberg says, 2.75 trillion is more than double what Poland demands in reparations from Germany's World War II actions.

01:39:49.000 Wow!

01:39:50.000 That's so wild, dude.

01:39:53.000 Yikes, man.

01:39:55.000 Brandon Hampson says, Robert Downey Jr.

01:39:57.000 should come back to the MCU as the new Black Panther.

01:40:03.000 I could see it.

01:40:05.000 Alright, Honkatonk says, speaking from a chill voting for Obama back in the day vibe, the establishment has evolved, dudes.

01:40:13.000 That is true.

01:40:13.000 Yes, it has.

01:40:16.000 Let's grab some more superchats.

01:40:18.000 Paul Sikora says, OJ Simpson had to pay $33.5 million for the deaths of two people, and Jones has to pay in the hundreds of millions for saying some stuff.

01:40:27.000 This Bidenflation, man.

01:40:29.000 That explains it, that explains it.

01:40:31.000 Good one, Paul.

01:40:34.000 Ian Kinney says, how do I put in a bid on the flooring for the new place?

01:40:39.000 I do tile, LVP, laminate, hardwood, carpet, will travel, just give me a couch to crash on.

01:40:44.000 I don't, we have a guy, unfortunately, Ian, sorry.

01:40:48.000 We have a guy who handles everything for us.

01:40:50.000 He's a builder.

01:40:52.000 What kind of floor is he going to put in there?

01:40:54.000 I don't know what there refers to.

01:40:55.000 We're talking about Fridamastan?

01:40:57.000 Yeah.

01:40:58.000 The concrete.

01:41:00.000 The studio room is going to be a carpeted floor like normal, but the ground floor is just going to be smooth concrete.

01:41:06.000 I don't know if we're going to seal it.

01:41:07.000 I've been advised by the skate park company not to seal it, but I love sealed ground, so I'm kind of like, I like it when it's so slippery you're slipping around.

01:41:15.000 Why not seal just because slippery people slip?

01:41:18.000 No, because when you're skating, you spin around like crazy and it's hard to get a grip, but I actually like it.

01:41:24.000 I like being able to do like a backside flip and then whoosh really fast, or like you do your tricks by spinning around.

01:41:29.000 Yeah, I love it.

01:41:29.000 Yeah, totally.

01:41:30.000 I like it.

01:41:31.000 And your board lasts longer.

01:41:32.000 That's true.

01:41:32.000 So I'm like, I don't know, and the concrete will last way longer if we seal it too.

01:41:36.000 You don't raise your tail as fast, nearly as fast.

01:41:37.000 Yeah, exactly.

01:41:38.000 Yeah, totally.

01:41:39.000 This guy's not what I'm talking about.

01:41:39.000 I don't like it.

01:41:40.000 I can't hit the punching bag.

01:41:41.000 It keeps like slipping all the time.

01:41:43.000 You gotta get those rubber shoes.

01:41:44.000 What?

01:41:44.000 What do you mean?

01:41:46.000 In the garage.

01:41:47.000 The garage skate park.

01:41:49.000 It's unsealed.

01:41:50.000 It's probably leftover oil from two years ago.

01:41:54.000 So it is super slippery in there.

01:41:55.000 That is an issue.

01:41:57.000 One thing we did was you put a can of coke in a mop bucket full of water.

01:41:59.000 You mop it down and then you get a little stick.

01:42:03.000 Yeah, we could do that.

01:42:04.000 I mean, I think Brett prefers it that way and I don't skate in the garage all that often.

01:42:08.000 I'm usually skating outside.

01:42:09.000 You got a punching bag in your garage?

01:42:11.000 Yeah.

01:42:11.000 You guys do martial arts in here?

01:42:14.000 I skate.

01:42:15.000 Luke fights.

01:42:15.000 I do kickboxing.

01:42:17.000 Let's fight later.

01:42:18.000 Yeah, let's do it.

01:42:20.000 I got gloves, pads.

01:42:21.000 We could live stream it and raise money for charity.

01:42:24.000 Sanctioned.

01:42:25.000 Yeah, sanctioned event.

01:42:27.000 And then, you know, the rest of us will skate.

01:42:30.000 So you guys can skate around you.

01:42:32.000 You guys could do your ballerina on ice.

01:42:35.000 Will Cybernaught says, Ian, you made a mistake.

01:42:37.000 I love you.

01:42:38.000 Please don't double down.

01:42:39.000 That was in reference to the Ben Shapiro thing.

01:42:42.000 Oh, with Ethan Klein wanting to bond with Ben?

01:42:44.000 Yeah.

01:42:46.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:42:47.000 says, I feel like Biden now.

01:42:48.000 Ian just broke my brain.

01:42:51.000 It's not your fault!

01:42:52.000 Why don't you feel like Federman?

01:42:54.000 Is there a reason why?

01:42:55.000 Man.

01:42:56.000 John Federman.

01:42:58.000 Yeah, I can't believe people would consider voting for that guy.

01:42:59.000 Yeah, me either.

01:43:01.000 Honestly, some of the stuff that he says, I'm like, alright, it's not as bad as the GOP is making it out to be.

01:43:07.000 Well, did you see the, send me to Washington, D.C.

01:43:10.000 to fight, I could, to work for work!

01:43:13.000 Yeah, no, no, he's definitely got the Biden dementia thing going on, but like, some of the criminal justice reforms that he's proposing, it's like the GOP is like, oh, he wants to release these people who are non-violent criminals.

01:43:23.000 Yeah, but he did advocate for convicted murderers, and now one guy's actually being charged with murder again.

01:43:27.000 I know, I know.

01:43:28.000 He's a Democrat, so he's gonna, you know.

01:43:30.000 Every once in a while, a Democrat poops out a... I saw Cernovich retweeted something about Tim Ryan.

01:43:37.000 I think it was Cernovich.

01:43:38.000 Forgive me if I'm wrong.

01:43:40.000 Tim Ryan wanting to release prisoners, but then the first thing Ryan brings up, the only thing, was getting marijuana off Schedule 1.

01:43:46.000 And then I was like, okay, well, I agree with that.

01:43:49.000 I mean, I'm not going to pretend to hate Tim Ryan because he's a Democrat.

01:43:52.000 I think we should get marijuana off Schedule 1.

01:43:54.000 That's always painful because the Republicans still hold on to that stuff, man.

01:43:58.000 Still campaigning on that, so I was like, that fight is over.

01:44:01.000 Pro-clutching.

01:44:01.000 I think we gotta frame it as like, lift the prohibition on marijuana.

01:44:07.000 It's been a hundred years.

01:44:08.000 Yeah, prohibition.

01:44:08.000 That's a good way to target it.

01:44:09.000 As opposed to make it legal, make it legal.

01:44:10.000 Lift the prohibition, it's not working.

01:44:12.000 And then they're like, oh, then necks are gonna want to legalize shrooms. 1.00

01:44:15.000 And we're like, yes.

01:44:16.000 Yeah, pretty much.

01:44:16.000 Yes, we do.

01:44:17.000 All right.

01:44:18.000 Mimic says, to quote the great philosopher from Animaniacs, the brain once said, lies are just facts that haven't been repeated enough yet.

01:44:26.000 Oh, that's some dark stuff.

01:44:28.000 But that's basically the quote.

01:44:30.000 If you repeat a lie enough, it becomes a fact.

01:44:32.000 Nazi party.

01:44:33.000 Right.

01:44:35.000 Man, Brain was dark. 0.88

01:44:36.000 Semi-fascist.

01:44:38.000 You know what I liked about Pinky and the Brain, though?

01:44:39.000 The Brain was a really evil little mouse, but he really did care for Pinky.

01:44:43.000 He did. 0.88

01:44:43.000 Oh, that's true. 0.88

01:44:45.000 Whenever Pinky got really hurt, the brain would get really, like, sad and scared and worried about his friend.

01:44:49.000 Even genocidal maniacs have love.

01:44:51.000 That's right.

01:44:51.000 I mean, well, I don't know.

01:44:52.000 Did the brain want to kill everybody?

01:44:53.000 He just wanted to rule the world. 0.73

01:44:54.000 He just wanted to rule the world. 0.99

01:44:55.000 Just a maniac. 0.98

01:44:56.000 Exactly. 0.71

01:44:56.000 It wasn't genocide. 0.71

01:44:57.000 He's not Bill Gates now.

01:44:57.000 not yet killing jenna says jones shows a precedent that true americans

01:45:08.000 will need to do a lot peaceful fighting to maintain our natural

01:45:11.000 rights such as voting this uh... november eighth

01:45:14.000 I love the show, been watching since 2019 when I was shown the corruption.

01:45:18.000 That is corruption indeed, man.

01:45:20.000 Corruption indeed.

01:45:23.000 Okay, what do we have here?

01:45:26.000 Brian Tersteniak says, hey Tim, big fan here.

01:45:29.000 As much as I want it to be true, Jill Biden was not booed at the game.

01:45:32.000 That was a fake video.

01:45:33.000 Officer Tatum proved it to be false.

01:45:34.000 I like that you're factual.

01:45:36.000 So the other day, someone mentioned this to me, and I was looking at some videos where I heard the booing, and then I saw that it was reported definitively by several outlets, and so I rolled with it.

01:45:46.000 But I've heard this more and more.

01:45:49.000 I found a different video showing there was no booing.

01:45:52.000 So I think it may be correct that the video was fake.

01:45:56.000 I just need to go in and verify and then I'll put an update on the video I did from earlier in the week because if it's a fake video, it's a fake video.

01:46:03.000 Because yeah, mainstream outlets had been reporting it as fact.

01:46:06.000 Yeah, the New York Post ran it saying Jill Biden booed. 1.00

01:46:09.000 I wonder if what happened was she was booed but someone made a fake video.

01:46:12.000 Like enhancing the boo?

01:46:13.000 Exactly.

01:46:14.000 Right, or putting a fake boo over it to make it sound really loud when it was actually just like a marginal booing.

01:46:19.000 Right.

01:46:19.000 I think what ended up happening was several outlets fact-checked it and said, while it's true, people there probably were booing her.

01:46:25.000 These videos aren't real.

01:46:26.000 And it's like, oh, okay.

01:46:28.000 Was anyone at the game in the chat?

01:46:29.000 If anyone was there, let us know.

01:46:31.000 Maybe.

01:46:32.000 Let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:46:35.000 Paul Blackburn says, I'm beginning to think the reason why the Rebels knew about the second Death Star was because James O'Keefe was able to get a Stormtrooper to talk.

01:46:41.000 He's great.

01:46:43.000 Oh, that actually would be a really great skit.

01:46:45.000 James has got to do some more of that stuff.

01:46:48.000 Like a Baratos infiltrates the Death Star. 0.85

01:46:50.000 They have a seer camera, and then you have a Stormtrooper silhouette being like, Darth Vader is planning to blow up Parson IV.

01:46:56.000 But it'd be like Princess Leia all sexy, getting the Stormtrooper to talk.

01:47:01.000 You have no idea the amount of plants we're going to blow up, man.

01:47:06.000 Tell me more!

01:47:09.000 That's so impressive! 0.99

01:47:11.000 And Ewoks are disgusting little creatures! 1.00

01:47:16.000 And he's racist! 0.99

01:47:18.000 I gotta say, Veritas could do a bunch of funny skits like that. 0.90

01:47:20.000 That'd be good, yeah.

01:47:22.000 Project Veritas could do a Breaking Bad thing.

01:47:25.000 All right.

01:47:27.000 Hayden says, the Constitution is divinely inspired document.

01:47:30.000 It is a beautiful social compact.

01:47:32.000 The social compact has been violated by one side.

01:47:34.000 The Constitution is not a suicide pact.

01:47:36.000 If they use it against us and for their protection, there is a massive issue.

01:47:41.000 I would love to break this barrier of them and us, because I mean, honestly, we have government for the people, by the people.

01:47:46.000 We're all involved in this.

01:47:48.000 Why can't we all just get along?

01:47:51.000 Track media only, says Luke.

01:47:53.000 Local judges ignoring the Constitution is exactly why you can appeal to the Supreme Court.

01:47:57.000 If you divorce, as it means, you lose that.

01:48:00.000 We've lost the balance and divorce doesn't get that back.

01:48:02.000 That's what I was trying to tell him.

01:48:03.000 Track media only.

01:48:04.000 There we go.

01:48:05.000 That's my boy.

01:48:07.000 One little argument over of course the big centralized, but with that you have the Department of Education, you have the ATF, you have the IRS.

01:48:13.000 You want all of that or you want your little judges? 1.00

01:48:16.000 I think the judges should be localized.

01:48:18.000 The anarchist says the Constitution has either authorized the current form of government that we have or been powerless to prevent it.

01:48:25.000 But I like to say that the anarchist movement has either authorized the form of government that we have or been powerless to prevent it.

01:48:33.000 I don't think so.

01:48:33.000 I think when we have small individual actions like homeschooling, people arming themselves, people making their own food, people become independent, that's actions of anarchy that are promoted that do push out government and make government irrelevant because people don't need to be dependent on government and make it less, you know, dependent on everyone else.

01:48:53.000 Anarchy is correct. 0.99

01:48:54.000 I like the Reagan one.

01:48:56.000 What is it?

01:48:57.000 No scarier phrase than I'm from the government, I'm here to help?

01:49:00.000 Yes.

01:49:00.000 That's my Halloween costume this year.

01:49:02.000 I like the Reagan one. What is it? No scarier phrase than I'm from the government. I'm here to help.

01:49:08.000 Yes, that's my Halloween costume this year. I got a shirt that says that.

01:49:12.000 I'm here to help.

01:49:13.000 Yeah, no, it says government.

01:49:14.000 Just government.

01:49:15.000 I'm gonna go around that night and say, I'm here to help.

01:49:18.000 You really want to scare people, just walk around dressed up like an IRS agent, knock on the door and... Oh god, that would be a great costume, yes!

01:49:25.000 That'd be the scariest thing for any adult answering the door and be like, I'm not trick-or-treating.

01:49:29.000 They'll go, oh no!

01:49:30.000 Yeah, no, you could get my government shirt at my AP for Liberty shop.

01:49:34.000 You can say, I'm one of the 87,000 new hires and I'm here to talk to you about your finances.

01:49:41.000 Oh no!

01:49:42.000 Just kidding, just kidding.

01:49:43.000 It's Halloween.

01:49:43.000 Were you scared?

01:49:44.000 It was scary, right?

01:49:45.000 You gotta be practically scary, man.

01:49:47.000 I like the IRS thing, though.

01:49:48.000 That's good.

01:49:49.000 That would be really good.

01:49:50.000 Good costume.

01:49:51.000 Tangent says, shout out to Ian.

01:49:54.000 After countless hours of talking, recognizing that quote didn't sound like something you'd say is amazing, how passionately you conveyed it, feeling off, was the reason I dug into it.

01:50:03.000 Tangent's the one, of course, who found out about it.

01:50:05.000 Well, the fact that you were like, I don't say the word folks.

01:50:08.000 Yeah, I don't.

01:50:08.000 I don't use that word.

01:50:09.000 I don't like it.

01:50:10.000 James Lindsay actually came on the show and explained how it's like, I don't know if it's communist propaganda.

01:50:14.000 It's like a seeded into our language somehow.

01:50:16.000 I don't know if Obama did it intentionally.

01:50:18.000 What are you saying about Seamus?

01:50:21.000 That he's a racist?

01:50:23.000 I'm not saying Shamus is a racist.

01:50:25.000 No, I love Shamus, actually.

01:50:26.000 Anthony Jones says, Tim, maybe the aliens have hope for humanity because of shows like this.

01:50:31.000 Ian, we need more info on radar manipulation.

01:50:33.000 Luke, love wearing my Emperor Fauci shirt.

01:50:36.000 To our guest, Rock Chalk Jayhawk Goku.

01:50:40.000 Go K.U.

01:50:41.000 I think.

01:50:41.000 Go K.U.?

01:50:42.000 Oh, I thought it was Goku, like Dragon Ball Z. Yeah, I thought it was for a second.

01:50:45.000 Go K.U.

01:50:46.000 Goku?

01:50:47.000 Yeah!

01:50:47.000 Okay, that's funny.

01:50:48.000 If you really want to learn about radar manipulation, look up talking plasma, and you might be able to find something for military times.

01:50:54.000 M.I.Z. 0.98

01:50:57.000 Matt says, Peterson has it totally backwards.

01:50:59.000 Federalists oppose centralized power, and Hamilton was the worst.

01:51:03.000 He was the first neocon along with Washington and Adams.

01:51:06.000 The Constitution is objectively lacking.

01:51:08.000 Look where we are.

01:51:08.000 What?

01:51:09.000 The anti-federalists were the ones who opposed centralized power.

01:51:13.000 That's like what it means.

01:51:14.000 Yeah.

01:51:14.000 Anti-federalists?

01:51:16.000 Right.

01:51:16.000 Anti-Federalists.

01:51:17.000 They were against the Central Federal Government.

01:51:19.000 They were against the creation of the Constitution.

01:51:21.000 The Federalists were the ones who wanted to create the Constitution.

01:51:23.000 I thought it was the Anti-Federalists that wanted the Bill of Rights.

01:51:25.000 Yes, but they didn't.

01:51:26.000 Well, they didn't want the Bill of Rights.

01:51:28.000 They wrote the Bill of Rights because they're like, we know that you guys are going to write the Constitution and you're going to write the laws.

01:51:32.000 We need to slip this in here to make sure we still have rights protected.

01:51:36.000 Cal L says, the Founding Fathers actually give a blueprint on how to dismantle the government without due process through invasion step-by-step.

01:51:43.000 The White House announced on 9-12 they're using a tech to do it.

01:51:47.000 What does that refer to?

01:51:48.000 More info, please.

01:51:49.000 Yeah, I don't know.

01:51:50.000 I think there's something missing there.

01:51:53.000 Christos Aretikos says, as a Canadian in Montreal, I second the motion for United States and Provinces of America, C-A-U-S, of the Great North American Republic.

01:52:04.000 Glory to Tim Guest and friends.

01:52:06.000 Have you guys watched the Electric Dreams episode, Others?

01:52:09.000 Kill All Others?

01:52:11.000 You mentioned it, Newt.

01:52:12.000 It sounds awesome.

01:52:12.000 Yeah, watch it, man.

01:52:13.000 You guys, you're missing out.

01:52:15.000 Yeah, Electric Dreams is on Amazon, but it's like Philip K. Dick Stories, and there's an episode called Kill All Others.

01:52:24.000 It's brilliantly done.

01:52:25.000 Everyone who watches this show would absolutely love that episode.

01:52:28.000 There's a guy, he's chilling on his couch watching the debate, and it's like a single candidate running for office.

01:52:34.000 There's no real election.

01:52:38.000 She gets asked by an interviewer, like, well, you know, so tell me, what are your plans when you become the president?

01:52:45.000 And the candidate, she's like, well, you know, first, we need to totally gut these schools, because they're a huge problem. 0.99

01:52:51.000 Kill all others, of course.

01:52:53.000 And then, obviously, the economy is in serious trouble. 0.87

01:52:55.000 And then he goes, whoa, whoa, what did she just say?

01:52:58.000 And then he plays it over, and she keeps saying, like, she says it.

01:53:01.000 And then the interviewer goes, he's like, honey, come in here, listen to this.

01:53:04.000 And the interviewer goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, that was very controversial.

01:53:06.000 I can't believe you would say that.

01:53:08.000 You wanna gut the schools now, a lot of people, and he's like, what's going on?

01:53:12.000 Then he's asking his people, like his friends at work, and there's like only a few people there, and he's like, can you believe she said that?

01:53:17.000 And they're like, I don't know man, I don't watch that political stuff.

01:53:19.000 And then what happens is, as the time goes on, he eventually is like driving to work with his wife, and then he sees like people chasing a woman who's screaming, and they're like, get her, she's an other! 0.95

01:53:28.000 He sees an ad that says kill all others, he's on a train, and then he sees billboards for it, and then eventually they're like, why are you defending others?

01:53:35.000 Are you an other?

01:53:36.000 And he's like, no, I just don't understand why you're doing it.

01:53:38.000 Like, he's another!

01:53:39.000 And then, you know, you get weirdos.

01:53:41.000 We see this happening.

01:53:42.000 It's such a good episode.

01:53:43.000 It's amazing.

01:53:43.000 Yeah, that sounds good.

01:53:44.000 What's the show called?

01:53:45.000 Electric Dreams.

01:53:46.000 Electric Dreams from 2017, sci-fi.

01:53:48.000 Only one season.

01:53:49.000 The whole season was great.

01:53:50.000 I liked it.

01:53:51.000 Philip K. Dick Stories.

01:53:52.000 But I think that was like the last one.

01:53:53.000 I watched it and I was flabbergasted they made it.

01:53:56.000 Ten episodes.

01:53:56.000 I was like, this explains everything that's going on exactly with cancel culture and the woke left.

01:54:01.000 It's from a book, The Hanging Stranger.

01:54:05.000 It's good stuff, man.

01:54:06.000 It's a good episode.

01:54:07.000 Definitely check it out.

01:54:09.000 Yeah, and the reason I brought it up was because Christos mentioned Canada and Montreal.

01:54:13.000 In the episode, they live in Mexiscan.

01:54:16.000 And it's the North American unified body or whatever.

01:54:18.000 That also happened in Fallout 3, I think.

01:54:20.000 In the Fallout story, didn't Canada and Mexico join the US?

01:54:24.000 Um, I don't know.

01:54:26.000 I think, I think like the U.S.

01:54:27.000 may have annexed Canada or something like that because they needed oil and then China invades Alaska or something.

01:54:31.000 Correct.

01:54:31.000 Aliens are attempting to take over.

01:54:33.000 He tries to save everyone else but dies trying to protect everyone.

01:54:36.000 In which one?

01:54:37.000 Well, the book that it's based on.

01:54:38.000 The Hanging String.

01:54:40.000 Well, it's 12 different, it's an anthology series.

01:54:43.000 Right.

01:54:43.000 So you may be referring to one episode.

01:54:44.000 Electric Dreams, yes.

01:54:46.000 So I think there's 12 episodes and they're all individual shows.

01:54:49.000 I see, because I'm looking at Cranston, Steve Buscemi, Terrence Howard, so they're all stars in different episodes.

01:54:53.000 That's cool, that's kind of like Twilight Zone kind of thing.

01:54:56.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr.

01:54:57.000 says, dude, love the ammo can.

01:54:59.000 Yeah, that's my buddy Will Perry.

01:55:01.000 He makes these clean ammo cans.

01:55:02.000 He's a big fan from Missouri.

01:55:05.000 It's a 50 BMG ammo can.

01:55:07.000 Yeah, TimCast, News Politics Coach.

01:55:10.000 That was pretty cool.

01:55:10.000 Did you bring that in with you?

01:55:13.000 Dude, that's awesome!

01:55:15.000 Yeah, my buddy Will Perry wanted to give you a gift.

01:55:17.000 He's a huge fan.

01:55:17.000 We've got a lot of fans in Missouri.

01:55:19.000 Every time I go on, Missouri just lights up because they love TimCast out there.

01:55:23.000 Will gave you this, he's got a company.

01:55:26.000 Where's mine?

01:55:27.000 What am I, chopped liver here?

01:55:29.000 A beautiful little George Washington Buddha from my shop, and I made this myself, so you can get that on mine.

01:55:36.000 Alright, Ben D says, breaking, Biden student loan frozen by Fed, by federal judge.

01:55:42.000 I saw this video, apparently it's a commercial that, I don't know if Biden's putting out, where it's like, A song about getting 10k in your pocket and it shows like jeans and it says 10k flashing and like people putting money in their pockets, something like that.

01:55:54.000 I'm like, dude, they're just buying votes.

01:55:56.000 That's so insane.

01:55:58.000 Just like he did with the marijuana declaration, which doesn't affect anyone.

01:56:04.000 6,500 people are affected.

01:56:06.000 The Marshall Project said not a single person will be released from prison because of this.

01:56:10.000 Yeah, most people in prison are for trafficking, not for possession.

01:56:14.000 No one's in prison, federal jail, for possession.

01:56:16.000 Not a single person.

01:56:18.000 But then people are like, yeah, but you know, past records.

01:56:21.000 No!

01:56:21.000 Now the real, the big announcement was going to be the de-scheduling because, well, rescheduling.

01:56:26.000 He promised that, but he hasn't delivered any of that.

01:56:28.000 The reason why they said they couldn't do that is because it's a Schedule 1 drug.

01:56:32.000 They can't reschedule it because it's Schedule 1.

01:56:34.000 Isn't that weird?

01:56:35.000 There's a lot of money.

01:56:37.000 Yeah.

01:56:37.000 And a lot of big industries.

01:56:38.000 We just need to change the culture.

01:56:39.000 Oh yeah.

01:56:39.000 And once everybody believes weed should be legal, it'll be legal even when the law isn't.

01:56:42.000 Like opiates.

01:56:42.000 If you want to get someone off opiates.

01:56:43.000 That sounds like an anarchist idea there.

01:56:45.000 That doesn't sound very minarchist of you there.

01:56:47.000 That was a Tim Pool idea from earlier on.

01:56:48.000 That sounds like a, you know.

01:56:49.000 Change the culture.

01:56:50.000 Alright, alright.

01:56:51.000 Tim Never Reads My Super Chat says, Oh.

01:56:54.000 Great show.

01:56:54.000 Austin Peterson is on point as usual.

01:56:56.000 Also thanks Tim for reading the original Second Amendment as first written.

01:57:00.000 I'm tired of liberals purposefully misinterpreting it all the time.

01:57:03.000 That was cool.

01:57:03.000 And thank you.

01:57:04.000 That's right.

01:57:04.000 Appreciate that Tim Never Reads My Super Chats.

01:57:06.000 That's right.

01:57:07.000 That's a great name.

01:57:08.000 Herman Acosta says big businesses love laws and regulations.

01:57:11.000 It prices out people from being able to afford to start a business, effectively pulling up the ladder behind them.

01:57:17.000 Yep.

01:57:17.000 Herman Acosta, you're my boy.

01:57:18.000 Yep.

01:57:21.000 Okay, what do we got here?

01:57:23.000 Calin Shaw Indie Game says, Idea.

01:57:25.000 Each vote is multiplied by how many votes we cast since last time that office was elected.

01:57:30.000 If you vote every year, your Senate vote is worth six, POTUS worth four.

01:57:33.000 Only every four years and counts less.

01:57:36.000 That's interesting.

01:57:36.000 I like, see that's kind of along the lines of what we're talking about there.

01:57:39.000 People think that because they vote every four years, you know, that they should have, you know, they should have a say.

01:57:44.000 But the people who show up to the town councils, the people who show up to the meetings, the electors who actually engage with campaigns, those people were always supposed to have more of You know what?

01:57:53.000 Maybe here's an idea.

01:57:54.000 Every time you go to a local election, you receive a vote voucher, and then on general election day for, like, governor or whatever, those vote vouchers count as votes.

01:58:03.000 Or just, how about if you just own property?

01:58:05.000 How's that?

01:58:06.000 Yeah, yeah, only if you're a white male who owns property, right? 0.57

01:58:11.000 But the idea here is, if you participate in all your local elections, when you go to vote at the general higher level, you have more say than someone who's ignored the whole process.

01:58:20.000 Or how about if you're just, if you're a net taxpayer?

01:58:23.000 Yes.

01:58:23.000 Which is only the 1%.

01:58:24.000 Yeah, if you're a net taxpayer.

01:58:27.000 I think the net taxpayers are only in the top 20%.

01:58:27.000 There you go.

01:58:29.000 What's the net taxpayer?

01:58:31.000 So everybody here pays taxes, but on average you receive more tax benefits than you pay into taxes.

01:58:37.000 So I think, what is it, everyone receives like $50,000?

01:58:40.000 So unless you've paid more than $50,000 in taxes, you're not a net taxpayer.

01:58:44.000 Oh, okay.

01:58:45.000 Yeah.

01:58:46.000 And then you gotta add that only 48% of people actually pay into taxes?

01:58:52.000 Yes.

01:58:52.000 That's crazy.

01:58:53.000 Oh yeah.

01:58:54.000 The compliance rates have been much lower, actually.

01:58:56.000 It was like what, during Eisenhower's years in the 1950s, where the top marginal tax rate was like 91%, and the liberals were like, we've had much higher tax rates back in the past, but nobody paid it.

01:59:07.000 Nobody paid those tax rates.

01:59:11.000 I mean, they just didn't pay their taxes.

01:59:13.000 Literally.

01:59:13.000 Yeah.

01:59:14.000 It's just the Laffer curve, right?

01:59:16.000 The higher you tax, the less compliance you get.

01:59:19.000 But also, it's the less actual revenue you generate.

01:59:22.000 Especially if people have the opportunity to leave your jurisdiction and trade elsewhere.

01:59:25.000 People don't understand this, man.

01:59:28.000 They don't get it.

01:59:29.000 All right, everybody.

01:59:30.000 Maybe we'll try and grab one more.

01:59:30.000 Let's see.

01:59:34.000 Ghetto Man says, just ordered every documentary on InfoWars.

01:59:40.000 On InfoWars though, that means other people made them.

01:59:46.000 Gotta support the man who first informed me how corrupt our government is.

01:59:48.000 And here's 20 for talking about how absurd the whole thing is.

01:59:52.000 Well, there you go, man.

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02:00:14.000 Yeah, please check out my new morning talk show, The Wake Up America Show.

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02:00:42.000 Thanks a lot, guys.

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02:00:44.000 It's awesome.

02:00:44.000 Yeah, Austin, this was great.

02:00:45.000 Thank you so much for coming.

02:00:46.000 Yeah, it's good to see you again, man.

02:00:47.000 It's been years.

02:00:47.000 Maybe one day you will believe in freedom.

02:00:52.000 And maybe one day you'll stop talking about how you love and need government.

02:00:54.000 But meanwhile, I enjoyed the conversation and it was awesome.

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02:01:09.000 Hope to see you there after this video.

02:01:10.000 I agree, Austin. 0.99

02:01:11.000 Thank you for being the spurs in Luke's butt. 0.99

02:01:14.000 I like to watch him run. 0.98

02:01:15.000 He's a fast, fast, fast, fast man, horse.

02:01:19.000 Boy, did that joke fall flat.

02:01:22.000 Bye, guys.

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02:01:23.000 I'm taking the weekend off.

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02:01:26.000 Hopefully, you have the opportunity to do the same and take advantage of it.

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02:01:34.000 I will be in the chats maybe a little bit tonight.

02:01:36.000 We'll see how that goes.

02:01:37.000 It was a good one.

02:01:38.000 So yeah.

02:01:38.000 Thanks, man.

02:01:39.000 Thanks for hanging out, everybody.

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