Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Andrew Tate Victims Issue Statement, Lawsuit Getting Prepared w-Eliza Bleu

00:00:00.000 So, at about 10 o'clock today, there's going to be a House vote again for Kevin McCarthy.

00:00:22.000 He's lost 12 times. 0.98

00:00:24.000 It's quite pathetic. 0.98

00:00:25.000 He's arguing he is going to win when they come back. 0.98

00:00:29.000 We will see, because apparently there's at least five people, not including Boebert, who are, like, never gonna vote for him.

00:00:34.000 Sorry, it's not gonna happen.

00:00:35.000 But if some Democrats don't show up, then the vote threshold goes down.

00:00:39.000 He might actually be able to win, even if they don't get the Freedom Caucus individuals who are holding out.

00:00:43.000 But 14 other Republicans already flipped.

00:00:45.000 But that's not the biggest news.

00:00:46.000 We're gonna have some breaking news, to a certain degree, pertaining to Andrew Tate.

00:00:50.000 There's a bunch of news coming out now.

00:00:52.000 They're seizing more of his property.

00:00:53.000 And we're hearing There will be, we have a potential statement from victims.

00:00:58.000 I don't want to say too much, so just bear with me on this one.

00:01:01.000 And then we've got some other really crazy stories in cultural spaces that I want to talk about.

00:01:05.000 One, this story I saw the other day, I think it was James Lindsay who posted it, incels are Becoming trans, not because they're gender dysphoric, but because they hold this ideology.

00:01:18.000 And I don't know to what degree all of them feel this way, but apparently there are some guys that think women have it so much better, and they're small effeminate men, that they're better off transitioning for social benefits, even though they're not really gender dysphoric or anything like that.

00:01:36.000 It's a really interesting story.

00:01:37.000 And then we'll talk about, was it Ashley Babbitt's mom got arrested?

00:01:40.000 Is that what happened?

00:01:41.000 Marjorie Taylor Greene's yelling about it.

00:01:43.000 So we'll get into all that stuff, plus more.

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00:02:21.000 I don't know if the live format in the mornings is going to persist.

00:02:24.000 What may actually happen is just Working in the morning and doing more shorter segments or something.

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00:02:42.000 Joining us today to talk about this and more is Eliza Blue.

00:02:46.000 Hi.

00:02:47.000 Who are you?

00:02:48.000 My name is Eliza.

00:02:48.000 I'm a survivor advocate for those affected by human trafficking, and I am also a survivor of human trafficking.

00:02:53.000 Right on.

00:02:54.000 Thank you for having me back, by the way.

00:02:55.000 Absolutely.

00:02:56.000 Excited to be here.

00:02:57.000 You've been on before.

00:02:58.000 Yes.

00:02:58.000 Two years ago this month, actually.

00:03:00.000 Well, we have a lot to talk about.

00:03:00.000 Oh, cool.

00:03:01.000 Yes.

00:03:02.000 And I want to save it because we got some big news.

00:03:04.000 So thanks for hanging out.

00:03:06.000 We also got Luke chilling.

00:03:07.000 Hey guys, my name's Zukerdowski of WeAreChange.org, and I just wanted to remind everyone that if you need violence to enforce your ideas, your ideas are worthless.

00:03:15.000 That's exactly what it says on my shirt, and I think the last two to three years definitely proved that.

00:03:20.000 If you agree with this larger message, get the shirt on TheBestPoliticalShirts.com.

00:03:26.000 That's the way you could support me for being here, because you do.

00:03:28.000 That's why I'm here.

00:03:29.000 Thank you again so much for having me.

00:03:31.000 And Ian is not here today.

00:03:33.000 Sorry.

00:03:33.000 Sorry, guys.

00:03:34.000 I love Ian.

00:03:35.000 Thank you for letting me keep the seat warm.

00:03:36.000 But I'm Shane Cashman and happy to be here.

00:03:38.000 I write for TimCast.com.

00:03:40.000 I'm the author of Tales from the Inverted World.

00:03:42.000 I've done a few profiles recently on Kanye West and Carrie Lake's election trial.

00:03:48.000 And thank you guys for supporting me and saying some nice words.

00:03:51.000 And we got that Brunson trial that everyone's really excited about where people think the Supreme Court will kick Joe Biden out of office, which is just, it's not gonna happen, but we'll definitely talk about that, too, and we can talk about the Carrier Lake stuff, because that article you wrote, the profile, was actually really, really great.

00:04:04.000 Thank you.

00:04:05.000 Thanks for being here.

00:04:05.000 And then Serge is here, of course.

00:04:07.000 Serge.com, pushing buttons as always.

00:04:07.000 Yo, what's up?

00:04:09.000 Let's get rolling.

00:04:10.000 Let's jump into this first story.

00:04:12.000 And for this first story, we're not throwing it to a website.

00:04:15.000 I'm gonna throw it to Eliza. 1.00

00:04:17.000 Apparently, you've got something to say.

00:04:19.000 Yes, I do.

00:04:21.000 So before I say what I'm about to say, I just want to let everyone know that I serve these survivors speaking here as their survivor advocate.

00:04:29.000 And to anyone that needs more information, I will be giving information at the end of this.

00:04:33.000 So if survivors need to step forward, and as always, anytime I'm on a show, just know that you can reach out to the Human Trafficking Hotline at any time.

00:04:41.000 I can also give that number throughout this stream as well.

00:04:45.000 So let's get it going.

00:04:46.000 So tonight I might use the word allegedly at certain points.

00:04:50.000 This has been advised by legal.

00:04:53.000 Not because I don't believe the survivors that I serve, but it's the legal way to do it.

00:04:57.000 So let's get it going.

00:04:58.000 This is an official press release.

00:05:01.000 These are not my words.

00:05:02.000 This is a survivor.

00:05:04.000 As a survivor of the Tate brothers, I understand how difficult it can be to come forward and speak out about what happened to you.

00:05:13.000 But when social media gives us a glimpse into the extreme harm that others cause, I feel obligated to step forward and speak out against it.

00:05:24.000 If these words can prevent one woman from being an alleged victim of Andrew and Tristan Tate, it justifies the risk that I'm taking.

00:05:34.000 It can be scary, overwhelming, and you may feel like you don't have anyone to turn to.

00:05:41.000 If you or someone you know is a survivor, know that you are not alone and that there is help available.

00:05:48.000 By coming forward together, we may be able to find justice for ourselves and prevent these perpetrators from hurting anyone else.

00:05:57.000 It is a brave and important step towards healing and finding closure.

00:06:04.000 I know it can be hard to take this first step, but I promise you that there are resources and people ready and available to help you through this process.

00:06:13.000 Don't let fear or shame keep you from speaking out.

00:06:16.000 Let this be a reminder that you deserve to be heard, to feel safe and supported.

00:06:21.000 You have You have the absolute right to seek justice.

00:06:25.000 This is a moment and an opportunity for any victim of these alleged perpetrators to stand up and together we can recognize vulnerability as power, see the strength in numbers, and shine light on strength of every single survivor.

00:06:38.000 Signed, an anonymous survivor.

00:06:41.000 The second statement.

00:06:45.000 This will be survivor two.

00:06:47.000 For women who have been victimized, we didn't know the game.

00:06:51.000 That was being played to hurt us.

00:06:55.000 We know a game we know we didn't know a game was being played at all.

00:07:01.000 It's only after it happens and you lose that and you lose that you know whether the lover boy method or some other way.

00:07:10.000 Victims know that this game of deception is used in the court of public opinion today.

00:07:17.000 To the people who've made assumptions about the victims before trial, I forgive you.

00:07:22.000 I'm sorry.

00:07:26.000 I won't ask... I won't ask... I won't ask those people to change their opinion for our sake.

00:07:38.000 I would just ask them to consider one thing.

00:07:40.000 What if you're wrong?

00:07:43.000 Is it possible?

00:07:44.000 And if it is, you can wait for the court to do its job before attacking those who have gone about the correct legal process for justice.

00:08:00.000 To all the victims out there, I know how wounded you feel.

00:08:04.000 I have felt that way too.

00:08:07.000 I love each and every one of you for being brave enough to move forward despite those feelings.

00:08:12.000 You are loved and many know how strong you have been, signed Anonymous Survivor.

00:08:21.000 So if you are a survivor of Andrew Tate, Tristan Tate or any co-conspirators in this case, I need you to visit the website ncose.com.

00:08:35.000 ncose.com.

00:08:37.000 You'll see a click-through.

00:08:38.000 It'll go straight to the legal team that's representing these two survivors.

00:08:42.000 And I have a message of support from a survivor of Epstein, survivor of Epstein-Maxwell, Teresa J. Helm.

00:08:54.000 My support, empathy, and immense respect to these courageous survivors brave enough, braving through the storm and coming forward.

00:09:02.000 Each of these women have the soul of a warrior and the heart of a lioness. 1.00

00:09:08.000 To the women coming forward and speaking to you, you are changing the world and halting the vile systems of exploitation. 0.96

00:09:16.000 Make no mistake, you are a hero.

00:09:19.000 You speak for so many that have yet to breathe life into their words.

00:09:24.000 You are taking your power back.

00:09:26.000 You are returning it to where it has always belonged, within you.

00:09:32.000 Justice is a journey and I encourage you to use each footstep to imprint your fierce will.

00:09:38.000 Fight back, demand accountability, drain the shame that was never yours.

00:09:43.000 Whoo, that's cold.

00:09:45.000 To the survivors that are currently developing your strength to take that first step of coming forward, we are suited up, and you have an army of warriors ready to lock arms with you, and that's true.

00:09:59.000 Take the step, reach out.

00:10:01.000 We are here to help you and build a foundation of your pathway to justice.

00:10:07.000 They thought they'd bury you.

00:10:13.000 Break free through the barrier of silence.

00:10:15.000 Take your power back with love.

00:10:17.000 Respect to each of you.

00:10:18.000 God bless you, Teresa J. Helm.

00:10:20.000 Teresa J. Helm is now working full-time at NACOZI, and NACOZI Law will be representing the survivors, the American survivors and Western survivors, in the Andrew Tate case.

00:10:31.000 What do we know about what Andrew Tate was doing?

00:10:35.000 What do we have in terms of hard facts?

00:10:38.000 So, just based off my relationship, I'm not going to speak too, too much about, you know, the case, but I will be posting those statements onto my Twitter account, at Eliza Blue.

00:10:53.000 Sorry, I cried too.

00:10:55.000 I'll be putting them there.

00:10:59.000 And then survivors, if you missed the website to reach out, you can reach out there.

00:11:04.000 What we know is that there are some folks that want to get some justice.

00:11:13.000 That's what we know.

00:11:14.000 That's what I know.

00:11:15.000 So just to clarify that these are two victims that are coming forward but they're choosing to remain anonymous.

00:11:21.000 And I'll tell you why.

00:11:22.000 And I heard kind of two words here, trafficking and lover boy.

00:11:26.000 Are those the main accusations and are they suing for damages or are they suing to get them arrested?

00:11:34.000 So really quickly, the survivors are remaining anonymous and this was like a last minute decision a day because of fear.

00:11:43.000 Fear as a result that the legal team is afraid for their safety.

00:11:48.000 And that's where we're at.

00:11:49.000 I'm afraid for my own safety.

00:11:51.000 I'm afraid for my own safety even sitting here speaking about this.

00:11:56.000 So that's where we're at with it.

00:11:58.000 So we need to make sure before those survivors step forward, if and when they choose, because it's always up to the survivor, you can be a part of a lawsuit and be a Jane or John Doe, right?

00:12:08.000 But if and when these survivors decide to step forward, we need to make sure that they are safe.

00:12:14.000 And this goes to any survivor out there that's listening, if you decide to step forward in this case, either as a Jane Doe or whatever.

00:12:20.000 So this is a monetary lawsuit then?

00:12:25.000 If they're remaining anonymous, it's not going to be a criminal proceeding.

00:12:28.000 In the United States, at least.

00:12:29.000 We'll see where it goes.

00:12:30.000 I mean, it depends on whom ever steps forward.

00:12:34.000 You get what I'm saying?

00:12:35.000 But I mean, if this goes to a lawsuit, then it's a civil case where they can remain anonymous.

00:12:40.000 If they can't remain anonymous, and if it's a choice between life or death, then we will not have them step forward.

00:12:45.000 It's always up to the survivor.

00:12:47.000 No, you said you're not comfortable speaking about the evidence here.

00:12:51.000 Can you say that you did see, did you see any evidence yourself?

00:12:56.000 I'm not going to speak about that.

00:12:56.000 If you can't tell us about that.

00:12:57.000 I'm not going to speak about that.

00:12:58.000 And are you confident, like, from what your information that you're getting, is this a solid case from your experience working in this kind of particular field?

00:13:10.000 Because I know there's still a lot of things up in the air.

00:13:12.000 We still don't know a lot.

00:13:13.000 But from your kind of understanding of how all this works, how do you see this case?

00:13:18.000 I believe the survivors that I serve and I'll leave that there.

00:13:21.000 Do you trust the justice system if it goes forward?

00:13:25.000 Um, it's the system that we have, so it doesn't really matter whether or not I trust it.

00:13:29.000 It's the system that we have.

00:13:31.000 Of course, I have my own opinion on everything, but I do everything legally and lawfully, and that's how we'll do it.

00:13:39.000 I wish that there was a different system, but I can't live constantly in utopia.

00:13:42.000 I have to take action today.

00:13:44.000 The main challenge I have, first I want to stress, there's a lot of people defending Andrew Tate, and by all means, I have not watched everything he's ever put out.

00:13:54.000 But I have seen a portion of many different podcasts people have sent me.

00:14:00.000 I don't take those with a lot of weight because out-of-context statements don't sway me.

00:14:05.000 Seeing a 30-second or even a 4-minute clip of Andrew Tate talking about something, I'll be like, okay, I'll consider that he said that.

00:14:11.000 I'll have heard that he said that.

00:14:13.000 But without listening to the full hour, I don't like people being like... Actually, I'll give you an example.

00:14:19.000 I bet people come to me and they're like, did you hear what Dave Rubin said?

00:14:22.000 And I'll be like, what did Dave Rubin say?

00:14:23.000 And they'll be like, he said this thing.

00:14:25.000 And then I'll be like, how do you know he said that?

00:14:27.000 Someone posted a clip on Twitter.

00:14:29.000 And I'll be like, come on, bro.

00:14:31.000 They post clips of me out of context all the time.

00:14:33.000 I don't know if I believe it.

00:14:34.000 That being said, Andrew Tate tells this story frequently about how he had a bunch of women who loved him.

00:14:40.000 And he said, I'm broke.

00:14:41.000 Come here.

00:14:41.000 We're going to make money.

00:14:42.000 And then he started a cam business.

00:14:44.000 So, there's a few questions.

00:14:47.000 The first thing I'll say is, I understand why people are skeptical.

00:14:51.000 We've not actually seen any evidence from Romania other than accusations, and to be honest, even the statements that you have so far didn't actually assert anything.

00:15:02.000 It's just people saying they were survivors and they're looking for more people to come forward.

00:15:05.000 Sure.

00:15:07.000 So, I mean, that's the first step, I suppose, but for the time being, that's why the lawyers probably said, say, allegedly, because we've not heard anything other than he convinced women to go and work for him and that it was exploitation and illegitimate, that he was a lover boy, that he was telling them how much he loved them, come out, and then actually was just putting them into these situations.

00:15:28.000 So those accusations are there.

00:15:30.000 I guess people are saying outside of, I will say this, These anonymous statements but also Vice put out a video that allegedly comes from witnesses.

00:15:38.000 We have circumstantial evidence.

00:15:40.000 The other thing I'll add to it is I can also understand why people are skeptical on this because We've not gotten any accountability from Epstein, despite the fact that that guy got arrested, Maxwell was convicted.

00:15:52.000 We know there were people flying on his plane.

00:15:53.000 We know some of the people who were on his island, some of these names have been released, and there's been literally nothing done on it.

00:15:59.000 But then Andrew Tate gets raided, so people are asking questions.

00:16:02.000 Is it that Andrew Tate gained power in a way that was outside of the Epstein, you know, group, and thus he's not protected?

00:16:10.000 I'm releasing my own statement later tonight.

00:16:12.000 Might clear a little bit of that up.

00:16:14.000 Yeah.

00:16:14.000 My statement's a little different.

00:16:16.000 My statement comes straight at the throat, but it's a little long to read on your show, to be honest.

00:16:20.000 But like, Andrew Tate didn't donate to Democrats, is that why he gets arrested?

00:16:24.000 So I think there's a lot of people who are just like, we don't believe it, because if they really cared about trafficking, they'd have gone after this wholist— I mean, like, Luke named off a ton of people already who were implicated that they never went after. 0.88

00:16:36.000 So this is why people are just like, I don't buy it.

00:16:38.000 Andrew, like, I'm not, I'm not saying I know, look, I don't know anything about Andrew Tate.

00:16:42.000 Only a little, only a little bit.

00:16:43.000 Right.

00:16:43.000 But I can certainly understand why people are skeptical if you get a guy who comes out and tells people to break free from the machine, get away from the Matrix, be masculine, and then they're like, they ban him from every platform, then arrest him.

00:16:54.000 He's never said any- he doesn't say anything that, like, Luke doesn't say, like, I mean, seriously, like, literally, it's not like he's, like, reinventing the wheel, and I don't want to get too much into his- I- I have no opinion on him, and I- I- I'm gonna let the court decide, I really will, um, and I'll- I'll go with that, whatever, but, I mean, literally, it's not like he's coming out and, like, saying anything that's super groundbreaking, or, you know, it's- he's not Julian Assange.

00:17:18.000 You know what I mean?

00:17:19.000 He's not Edward Snowden.

00:17:20.000 You know what I mean?

00:17:22.000 People act like Tate's saying something new or unique.

00:17:26.000 It's stuff that people like Luke and I say on a daily basis, like any day that ends in Y.

00:17:31.000 If he did what he's accused of doing, him and his brother, then he needs to be brought to justice.

00:17:36.000 But honestly, I understand why people find it hard to believe when there's zero accountability for the entire list of Epstein's clients.

00:17:42.000 Like, the one that we haven't seen.

00:17:44.000 But I'm talking about, you know, Bill Gates flying on his plane, Bill Clinton flying on his plane, things like that.

00:17:48.000 And there's just no question, don't talk about it, get the F out.

00:17:52.000 And then not to mention, you've got FTX.

00:17:54.000 where they're trying, they're going as light as possible on this guy, and obviously this

00:17:57.000 guy's a financial related thing, but these people in the club, they get away with everything.

00:18:01.000 So it very well may be that Andrew Tate did bad stuff, but he ain't in the club, and he's

00:18:05.000 been speaking out against the club, so he's not protected.

00:18:09.000 As we know, for many decades now, the federal government has been aiding and protecting

00:18:14.000 some of the worst atrocious, horrible behaviors.

00:18:17.000 They've been working with big tech social media that also has been aiding and abetting

00:18:21.000 it to the point where there's even victims coming forward and saying, hey, there's these

00:18:25.000 photos, there's these videos of me being an underage child being hurt and abused here.

00:18:30.000 Twitter looking at that, listening to the victims, still deciding, you know what?

00:18:34.000 This doesn't violate our terms and policies.

00:18:36.000 This is what happened here in the United States.

00:18:39.000 Your tax dollars as an American went to aiding and protecting an international trafficking operation.

00:18:44.000 We're off off of the coast.

00:18:46.000 In the Virgin Islands, in the United States, they literally had an island that they flew in powerful people and they procured small children to them.

00:18:52.000 So obviously this is a very important issue here.

00:18:55.000 This is an issue that we can't forget.

00:18:57.000 This is an issue that we need to fight for since everything that usually happens in our mainline political system is protecting these individuals and very rarely do we get any justice here.

00:19:08.000 Now, when it comes to this particular case, I know you don't feel comfortable talking about some of the accusations or some of the evidence here, so I'm just trying to frame some questions so we get a kind of bigger understanding here.

00:19:20.000 If I could ask, did you know these victims beforehand?

00:19:24.000 Did they come to the law firm?

00:19:25.000 Can you tell us a little bit about your background with them, and did you talk to them?

00:19:30.000 And from like zero to a hundred, how much do you trust them?

00:19:33.000 Um, so it's, I don't want to give away, it's really hard for me right now, Luke.

00:19:38.000 This is a little different than the Janda 1, Janda 2 Twitter lawsuit.

00:19:41.000 I mean, once things are filed, then I have green light to go.

00:19:44.000 Right now, I'm in limbo as a survivor advocate.

00:19:46.000 I've been serving one of the survivors since summer, since this past summer.

00:19:51.000 So I've been serving this individual on a frequent basis as their survivor advocate

00:19:56.000 giving direct service.

00:19:58.000 Anyone that knows what a victim's advocate is or is a survivor advocate.

00:20:01.000 So I've been working with this individual for quite some time.

00:20:03.000 The other survivor is more recent.

00:20:06.000 The...

00:20:07.000 And that's all I'm going to say about that right now.

00:20:12.000 I don't want to break any of their... I have to be very mindful of what I say because I don't want to give away any of their identities.

00:20:17.000 But from your experience, you 100% believe them?

00:20:20.000 I believe every survivor that I serve.

00:20:23.000 But I also do my part in explaining due diligence.

00:20:26.000 Sorry, explaining, I do my due diligence in explaining due process.

00:20:31.000 Yeah, because some people are gonna, you know, take that question and are saying, well, if you believe everyone, how do we know if someone's not, you know, using this situation for their own personal benefit?

00:20:39.000 And I could see that.

00:20:41.000 Well, number one, they don't get any money from me.

00:20:44.000 And they don't get, I mean, as you can see, they're not even coming out their full name yet.

00:20:47.000 By the way, these two survivors probably will.

00:20:51.000 We just need to make sure that they're safe.

00:20:53.000 You have to understand, we didn't necessarily know that the Romanian law enforcement was going to move ahead with what they did right then.

00:21:00.000 So it's putting the other survivors that have been building their case globally for a while, we're all in like hyper mode, trying to not catch up, but sort of catch up.

00:21:14.000 Sorry, go ahead.

00:21:16.000 Why do you call them survivors?

00:21:18.000 Why is that the terminology?

00:21:20.000 Because I'm a survivor advocate.

00:21:21.000 No, but like, what does survivor mean?

00:21:23.000 Or like, is there- Survivor of abuse or trauma. 0.97

00:21:25.000 Does that mean that there's a hyperpens- like the end result of the trauma or abuse is to kill them? 0.91

00:21:32.000 That's a really good point, Tim.

00:21:34.000 I believe that anytime someone faces trauma in this way, sexual assault, domestic violence, human trafficking, that there is a high potential, especially in children, of their life to end right then and there.

00:21:46.000 You never know how violent it's going to get.

00:21:50.000 And that's, it's funny, I think sometimes people think I'm like, Kind of a nut job, because I'm so grateful to be alive all the time.

00:21:56.000 I don't think they understand what I've fully been through.

00:22:00.000 Anyone that survived that type of trauma is very grateful to be alive, because sometimes I think about the times I could have died, and I'm shocked that I didn't.

00:22:08.000 So yes, they have survived the trauma.

00:22:12.000 In legal terms, you say victim.

00:22:14.000 Right.

00:22:16.000 I think a lot of people take issue with the term survivor because... Okay.

00:22:19.000 Survivor is like, you know, you survived a building collapse, you survived a murder attempt.

00:22:24.000 War.

00:22:24.000 Or you survived war.

00:22:25.000 Yeah.

00:22:26.000 And, you know, survive means to live.

00:22:29.000 I suppose I would define it as living through something which may have taken your life.

00:22:36.000 You survived.

00:22:38.000 You're a survivor of a shipwreck.

00:22:40.000 So I guess the question is, and I'm not saying it's not true, you know, for a lot of these women, I could imagine that they do end up dead, especially when it comes to the more serious international trafficking.

00:22:50.000 They get forced onto drugs, onto opiates, because it'll make them more manageable, and then many of them do die from this.

00:22:57.000 My concern is, I wouldn't say based on the accusations, on the Andrew Tate thing it's probably iffy.

00:23:03.000 I think the issue is a lot of leftists, a lot of woke people will call themselves survivors when it's like someone said nasty things to them or like they got into a fight in the street.

00:23:11.000 You know what I mean?

00:23:12.000 I don't like the word victim per se though because victim means you're staying there.

00:23:19.000 I see what you're saying.

00:23:20.000 You don't want to be a victim.

00:23:21.000 I hate it when people call me a victim.

00:23:24.000 That's one of my main complaints.

00:23:25.000 Sometimes corporate press or other people on Twitter will say, oh she's a victim, she's a victim.

00:23:30.000 I'm not a victim.

00:23:31.000 I'm a survivor.

00:23:33.000 So I survived.

00:23:35.000 And I don't want to stay in victim mentality and I don't want to live there.

00:23:38.000 And I've chosen not to.

00:23:39.000 So what other word would I say?

00:23:41.000 I'm someone who has experienced You know, survivor's a shorthand for an individual who has experienced that specific trauma.

00:23:48.000 This is interesting.

00:23:49.000 We don't want to be victims.

00:23:51.000 We don't want to live in victimhood.

00:23:53.000 That's part of the problem with wokeness. 0.78

00:23:55.000 Everything makes them a victim.

00:23:57.000 So I can certainly understand someone saying, no, I'm not a victim.

00:23:59.000 I'm a survivor.

00:24:01.000 Then you get people on the right who are like, you didn't survive.

00:24:03.000 You weren't going to die.

00:24:04.000 You know what I mean?

00:24:04.000 So it's like, I agree.

00:24:06.000 I wouldn't want to say victim either because you don't want to put yourself in a weakened state.

00:24:09.000 You want to rise above and move forward with it, right?

00:24:11.000 Yeah, I guess people are just asking, you know, what is the nuance here?

00:24:14.000 Is this related to kind of... because abuse takes many forms.

00:24:18.000 Is this psychological abuse?

00:24:20.000 Is this being a lover boy?

00:24:22.000 Or is this, you know, running a human trafficking operation where you're procuring children to small people?

00:24:27.000 What kind of degrees are we talking about here?

00:24:29.000 I think that's what a lot of people are asking.

00:24:31.000 Sure, let's break something down really quickly.

00:24:33.000 I don't hate the term lover boy, But I kind of do.

00:24:37.000 Lover boy is almost like a slang for the coercive.

00:24:42.000 Human trafficking is force, fraud, or coercion for the sale of labor or sex.

00:24:47.000 Lover boy would fall under the coercive aspect.

00:24:50.000 If you are coerced into sex or labor trafficking, that would be sort of with the lover boy.

00:24:57.000 The reason why I don't prefer lover boy is because women can be traffickers. 1.00

00:25:01.000 So that to me, that's not a good, I like to say coerced.

00:25:04.000 If individuals were coerced into sexual exploitation, that's what, and I am a survivor of a coercive relationship too, unfortunately.

00:25:13.000 I ran a poll and we have about 7,400, 7,300 votes and climbing.

00:25:16.000 Do you think Andrew Tate is guilty?

00:25:16.000 7,300 votes and climbing.

00:25:18.000 Do you think Andrew Tate is guilty?

00:25:20.000 84% said no.

00:25:24.000 I mean, that's fine.

00:25:24.000 I mean, even the survivor said, just let it, you know, let the courts do their thing.

00:25:29.000 Even one of the survivors said that in their statement.

00:25:32.000 But, you know, I will say this.

00:25:35.000 To those who want to support survivors, please do during this time, whether it be myself, the survivors of Epstein-Maxwell, or the alleged survivors of Tate.

00:25:47.000 Please do, because their supporters are very loud.

00:25:53.000 The bots are very loud.

00:25:55.000 And I think it would be very helpful if you're a supporter of survivors, if you speak out.

00:26:03.000 Skepticism like this, though, is maybe a consequence of the oversaturation of false allegations from a lot of the last few years.

00:26:10.000 And I was telling people when those were happening, the consequence of this is going to be when people do step forward, no one's going to believe it anymore.

00:26:16.000 This is a tale as old as time.

00:26:17.000 People haven't believed survivors since they started stepping forward and they've only recently said... Let me just say real quick, when Alex Jones was talking about Epstein, he was called crazy and a conspiracy theorist and now 10, 12, 13, however long it's been, all of a sudden it's like...

00:26:32.000 Well of course!

00:26:34.000 Whip out the Alex Jones was right jars.

00:26:36.000 Look man, I'll put it this way.

00:26:37.000 I understand a lot of people like Andrew Tate, and they probably do because he's telling them to step up, push back against the machine, and he's had several videos that we've praised.

00:26:46.000 Notably where he said, I really love it, he says, whether I'm happy or unhappy is irrelevant.

00:26:52.000 If I wake up unhappy, I gotta do the exact same thing I would do if I was happy.

00:26:55.000 And I'm like, that's a really good point.

00:26:57.000 He had another video where he said, you gotta keep working, you can't stop.

00:27:01.000 Rocket ship going to the moon doesn't stop halfway to chill out.

00:27:04.000 No, it loses momentum and it falls.

00:27:05.000 You gotta keep going.

00:27:07.000 People hear those messages, they're positive messages.

00:27:09.000 He says, don't abide by the machine, break free from the matrix, take the red pill, get away from this.

00:27:14.000 He hasn't said anything that we haven't all been saying for literally ever.

00:27:18.000 This is not new or groundbreaking information.

00:27:21.000 He's charismatic, he's not bad looking, and he built a platform.

00:27:25.000 And that works for a lot of people.

00:27:27.000 I mean, yeah, sure, it's great.

00:27:29.000 And I'm not even mad that there's somebody out there saying it.

00:27:32.000 That's the vibe.

00:27:33.000 I like that information as well.

00:27:35.000 I like that information.

00:27:37.000 But what we said earlier this week is, look, I will care about this when they actually go after Epstein and Maxwell's client list.

00:27:46.000 No. 0.87

00:27:47.000 Tim, that's ridiculous. 0.99

00:27:49.000 You don't care? 1.00

00:27:49.000 No. 1.00

00:27:51.000 You can do more than one thing at once and you could care about more than one set of survivors or potential crimes at once.

00:27:59.000 I agree, but what we're seeing here is this massive international and corporate press effort going after this guy and his brother while they have protected, along with the government protected, one of the most egregious trafficking rings we have ever seen in the history of this planet.

00:28:14.000 And I believe that the survivors of Epstein deserve justice as well, and I believe that all co-conspirators in the Epstein case should be held accountable as well.

00:28:21.000 They're skipping over him.

00:28:25.000 I'm sorry, I'm not going to give them an inch because they're skipping over Epstein and Maxwell.

00:28:28.000 What you're not understanding is that sometimes there is a trickle effect.

00:28:32.000 There are still things happening with the Epstein case, and I want to remind everyone out there watching, every time you think that the Epstein case is done, more happens.

00:28:40.000 There's only so much that the survivors can do, but they are still fighting.

00:28:47.000 Trust me.

00:28:49.000 That is nowhere near done.

00:28:50.000 You can't equate one case for another case.

00:28:53.000 They're two totally different cases.

00:28:55.000 So let's hopefully push for justice with the Epstein-Maxwell case, and that all co-conspirators are held accountable.

00:29:03.000 But also, you can care about another case and hope that if justice needs to be received, If we could get a little bit of clarification here.

00:29:11.000 I also want to talk about the Vice piece a little bit here, but we know what was happening with Epstein to a certain level, which was really, really bad.

00:29:19.000 Outside of the legal perspective, what do you think was happening here with the Tate brothers?

00:29:23.000 What do you think they were doing?

00:29:26.000 How were they running their operation?

00:29:28.000 What was really going on here from your perspective?

00:29:30.000 I'm not going to speak about that.

00:29:31.000 Okay.

00:29:31.000 I'm sorry, I'm very... No, no, no.

00:29:32.000 I know, I know.

00:29:34.000 Just so people understand the level of like, hey, what Epstein was doing was extremely horrible and bad, right?

00:29:40.000 I will say this.

00:29:41.000 Taking small children that were like nine years old and then bringing them out to islands to, you know, have other powerful people fly in, do whatever they want.

00:29:49.000 That's really bad.

00:29:50.000 So how bad, from your perspective, I know you don't have to answer it, but how bad is that related to Tate?

00:29:56.000 Sure.

00:29:56.000 Abuse isn't like a...

00:30:00.000 Because every human's different, abuse can affect an individual differently.

00:30:05.000 So it's not like, there's a word I want to use right now, but I just want to keep the show clean.

00:30:10.000 It's not a tit-for-tat game when it comes to abuse.

00:30:14.000 It's not like one abuse is worse than one abuse.

00:30:16.000 I've met survivors who were sexually assaulted one time, and it's harder on them, that one abuse is harder on them than survivors who have been sexually abused, locked up, chained, For a very long time.

00:30:28.000 We don't play a tit-for-tat game when it comes to abuse.

00:30:30.000 If you're abused, you're abused.

00:30:32.000 We'll let everything happen the way it's supposed to, legally and lawfully.

00:30:37.000 All I'm asking, and I get what you're saying, Tim, but there's a reason I'm not part of the machine.

00:30:43.000 I'm not part of the machine.

00:30:44.000 I don't even work for Nicosi who's representing the case.

00:30:49.000 I'm not part of the machine.

00:30:51.000 So if I'm sitting here saying I'm serving two of the survivors, in fact, I've broken bread with some of the people that are really super cool with Tate.

00:31:00.000 So I'm not part of the machine.

00:31:02.000 So I guess the real question is, are folks gonna believe like, okay, Liza's part of this big conspiracy also?

00:31:10.000 I'm not part of the corporate press.

00:31:11.000 In fact, quick reminder to everyone at home, I just went through my dregs where I've been getting dragged by the corporate press left and right.

00:31:19.000 Before we move on to the next story, I wanted to talk about this vice report that just also recently came out, because they detailed how seven years ago, he was also accused of sexual assault and physical abuse in the United Kingdom.

00:31:31.000 But from that case, the UK authorities actually declined to prosecute him, and Tate released the statement about this, specifically through his lawyer, while in Romanian custody, saying specifically that the individuals accusing him were trying to go after money, saying quote the police understood after the investigation that i am innocent and the police found messages from the girls phones where they were talking between themselves and planning to lie about me end quote that's what andrew tate said according to the response of this vice uh report that specifically detailed how he uh punched one girl in the arm and allegedly forced himself on another girl in in a shower from one of the girls who was who's seeing it

00:32:12.000 The woman also decided to remain anonymous here. 0.98

00:32:15.000 But this vice report is, of course, something that everyone is talking about and saying this is not the first time he's being accused of something like this as well.

00:32:22.000 Did you see that vice report?

00:32:24.000 I did.

00:32:24.000 And actually, if the survivors out there are listening, step forward in that.

00:32:29.000 I appreciate your bravery and hopefully, you know, I hope you get some justice as well.

00:32:34.000 I really appreciate your bravery.

00:32:37.000 And actually, I want to say something else.

00:32:39.000 I'm sorry for the way that the internet dragged you.

00:32:41.000 Um, and I've been there and it sucks and keep going.

00:32:47.000 Keep going and actually reach out to Nikosi Law as well because we can connect you with some of the survivors.

00:32:52.000 I want to jump to this story here, which is in line with this.

00:32:56.000 It's from NBC News.

00:32:57.000 They wrote, on Musk's Twitter, users looking to sell and trade child abuse material are still easily found.

00:33:05.000 A review conducted by NBC News found dozens of accounts and hundreds of tweets claiming to sell child sexual abuse material.

00:33:11.000 I gotta stop right there and just say this.

00:33:13.000 Elon Musk takes over Twitter and immediately goes to task of cleaning this stuff up.

00:33:18.000 For years, Twitter allowed and protected not only groomers, but active abusers of children.

00:33:27.000 I'd like to point out that James Lindsay and I... James Lindsay got a permanent suspension.

00:33:33.000 For calling out actual grooming.

00:33:34.000 I had two tweets removed because there was an image of an adult human male showing children graphic images.

00:33:43.000 And I said, they are grooming your kids.

00:33:45.000 And Twitter locked my account.

00:33:47.000 And actually, it's right here.

00:33:48.000 Look at this.

00:33:49.000 The prop we have from the Jack Posobiec gag says, Twitter suspends Tim Pool for calling out groomers.

00:33:55.000 Tim goes off.

00:33:56.000 Now, Elon Musk comes in and almost immediately cleans up a good majority of this.

00:34:00.000 All of a sudden, now the corporate press is like, on Elon Musk's Twitter, where was any of this reporting when this was going on under the nose of Jack Dorsey and Vijay Gadde?

00:34:11.000 Conspiracy theory.

00:34:13.000 They didn't like this stuff back then.

00:34:14.000 And this is why I think.

00:34:17.000 I do want to stay focused on now as we get into the Twitter story, but I am not surprised that people hear the Tate story and they say, I don't trust it.

00:34:26.000 And then because you have the active protection from the press, from the legal department, from international authorities defending this stuff on Twitter, protecting the Epstein client list and things like that.

00:34:38.000 This is why people are just like, I don't believe it.

00:34:40.000 When they know what you don't like, the corporate press, they go after you with the same things that you don't like.

00:34:46.000 Like when they went after Matt Walsh saying he was a groomer.

00:34:50.000 And James Lindsay.

00:34:50.000 And Lindsay too, yeah.

00:34:51.000 James Lindsay went to a conference where he spoke, and I think he spoke at the same conference as Nikki Klein.

00:34:59.000 Nikki Klein, I'm pretty sure she was a member of Nixxiom, right?

00:35:02.000 I believe so, yeah.

00:35:04.000 And so they are now trying, they've been running this smear campaign where they say, James Lindsay, a known associate of the Nixxiom sex cult.

00:35:11.000 They met at a conference, like it would be like you guys being associated with me.

00:35:17.000 Because you're here talking to us about ideas.

00:35:18.000 Correct.

00:35:19.000 That's why it's just, it's really hard when the corporate press comes out and these authorities come out and they're like, well, you know, Andrew Tait did these things.

00:35:28.000 People's immediate reaction is BS.

00:35:30.000 If he was actually doing this and you cared, you'd have gone after that client list.

00:35:34.000 And if you actually cared, you would have gone after the people on Twitter.

00:35:36.000 So the difference there is that James Lindsay's not saying that he does these things where Tait does.

00:35:43.000 Well, so there's videos of Tate saying he had women who loved him working for him producing these videos.

00:35:49.000 It was on his website.

00:35:51.000 So, I mean, that's the difference.

00:35:53.000 James Lindsay's like, oh, let's talk about cultural Marxism.

00:35:58.000 And so that's not his brand.

00:36:01.000 Right, I'm just saying that NBC News right now is trying to accuse Musk of what Jack Dorsey's Twitter was doing.

00:36:11.000 Oh, 100%.

00:36:12.000 Not even a question.

00:36:13.000 And Elon Musk is trying to shut it down.

00:36:15.000 Yeah.

00:36:15.000 Well, number one, Musk inherited a crime scene.

00:36:18.000 He inherited a decades Old problem and I used decade as a sort of a benchmark.

00:36:24.000 I'm sure I could go back further.

00:36:26.000 But that was when the first piece in the Guardian that I've been able to find there could be others out there talking about the child sexual abuse material problem on Twitter was a decade ago.

00:36:37.000 So Elon Musk purchased a platform that had a decades-old problem and now the corporate press once again.

00:36:46.000 First and foremost, I'd like to pull up every article that the corporate media wrote about this issue on Twitter specifically prior to Elon Musk purchasing this platform.

00:36:56.000 How about every article from like, what was it, Salon and the New York Times that have been actively defending pedophilia, or like the TED Talk from that woman where she actively defended it.

00:37:06.000 There was recently, what was it, New Zealand?

00:37:09.000 Is it New Zealand now?

00:37:10.000 That's not, they're using the word maps.

00:37:11.000 They're using the phrase maps.

00:37:13.000 Like, yo.

00:37:13.000 Scotland.

00:37:16.000 These people are groomers.

00:37:18.000 It is obvious what they're doing and why they're doing it.

00:37:20.000 And they're using this now against Elon Musk because accuse your enemy of what you do.

00:37:26.000 They're projecting.

00:37:27.000 Yeah, we saw the cultural landscape.

00:37:29.000 We saw the groundwork being laid for this larger kind of grooming activity for a very long time.

00:37:35.000 And it's so insidious.

00:37:37.000 It's so dishonest.

00:37:38.000 It's so insane that there's corporate media outlets literally calling for Excusing a lot of this behavior by calling it minor attracted persons.

00:37:50.000 A police department in Scotland used that against a known pedophile.

00:37:56.000 So seeing this, and also seeing, you know, individuals like Yoel Roth, the former head of trust and safety at Twitter, who literally wrote a thesis supporting children using Grindr.

00:38:10.000 And now finally the corporate media has a problem with this kind of behavior because Elon Musk is in charge of Twitter. 0.95

00:38:15.000 That's bullcrap.

00:38:17.000 They were aiding and abetting it for such a long time and this goes along with, I don't know, let me know what you think, but this goes along towards a larger agenda trying to normalize a lot of this sick behavior. 0.98

00:38:29.000 I fully agree.

00:38:30.000 That's exactly what I think it is.

00:38:32.000 I wish I had better news for everyone.

00:38:34.000 That's exactly what it is.

00:38:36.000 No, I'm serious.

00:38:37.000 Because if they can make the world so sick and depraved, what have we become as a society?

00:38:43.000 We won't fight back.

00:38:44.000 If we won't fight for children, we definitely won't fight for our own freedom under tyranny.

00:38:49.000 I was talking to James Lindsay at Turning Point USA and then we went up on stage and James brought this up.

00:38:55.000 It starts with Drag Queen Story Hour.

00:38:57.000 And then when you come out and say, drag is an adult inherently sexualized performance, they go, no, no, no, no.

00:39:04.000 These are just people in costumes reading books.

00:39:06.000 It's like if they were just like a fairy princess.

00:39:08.000 And you're like, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:39:10.000 Drag is effectively stripping and burlesque. 1.00

00:39:13.000 Okay, it's like burlesque and not appropriate for kids.

00:39:15.000 But they're only reading books.

00:39:17.000 Then they graduate to drag queen all ages, all ages drag show.

00:39:23.000 Now they're actually doing the burlesque, but it's a dance show with a costume change.

00:39:28.000 Then you get San Antonio.

00:39:30.000 And in Florida they did it too.

00:39:32.000 Bringing kids out, talking openly and overtly about sex, simulating sexual activities, because the whole process from start to finish was grooming.

00:39:40.000 Yeah.

00:39:41.000 Then you have social media promoting degenerate behavior, showing a lot of outrageous content, especially in people's users, user feeds, especially on Instagram of some of the most borderline pornographic content that you could even imagine.

00:39:54.000 And then you have, of course, porn that's readily available.

00:39:56.000 Free for everyone, as long as you have an internet connection, you could get to it, and a lot of children are getting it to it, and it's rewiring their brains in very negative ways, over-sexualizing them, making sure that they can never have a strong family unit, and when you break down the family unit, you have more people being victims, you have more people being picked off, you have more people being on their own, and left in a more vulnerable situation.

00:40:20.000 And I think, you know, there's many layers to this, and we could keep compounding it, and we could keep connecting the dots, but there's a lot of freaking dots.

00:40:26.000 I know people with kids in elementary school who saw some text messages about these young kids talking about being like in polyamorous relationships.

00:40:34.000 I mean, I guess my question actually, I'm in a room with men.

00:40:40.000 How do men feel about the world headed in this direction?

00:40:45.000 It's anti-human.

00:40:47.000 But what, I guess at a certain point, I do kind of wonder when the men are gonna do a thing, and I know that makes me not a feminist or whatever, and I'm not.

00:41:00.000 I only am out here doing what I do because there's... Let me not get myself fully... If there were... I don't wanna be doing this job.

00:41:11.000 I don't want to be protecting women that are being abused.

00:41:15.000 I want good men of the world to be protecting these women.

00:41:20.000 But because there aren't enough out here, I have to be out here.

00:41:22.000 I agree.

00:41:24.000 But what are men going to do?

00:41:28.000 Or maybe I'm wrong.

00:41:29.000 I don't know.

00:41:30.000 This is like a question that I haven't fully thought through.

00:41:32.000 It's a good question.

00:41:33.000 The men in this room are the men who call out Epstein.

00:41:38.000 And Luke, of course, longer than I think the rest of us.

00:41:41.000 Shout out to Luke.

00:41:42.000 I didn't know about all your hard work before I came last time.

00:41:45.000 I remember I didn't know.

00:41:47.000 And now I know and I appreciate that.

00:41:48.000 It was furious seeing VH1 promote Epstein and everyone in the alternative media screaming about it.

00:41:54.000 And it wasn't just Jones.

00:41:55.000 It was a lot of other people.

00:41:57.000 A lot of independent journalists, including also the Miami Herald.

00:41:59.000 Shouts out to them.

00:42:00.000 They were one of the few organizations out there.

00:42:03.000 Mike Cernovich and the Daily Mail, surprisingly, one of the few organizations that first started to actually talk about this in a very serious way.

00:42:10.000 But first, it was independent media before anyone else.

00:42:13.000 I just want to say, I was ragging on the Daily Mail earlier because they're obsessed with Meghan Markle and Prince Harry or whatever, but equally they would not shut up about Prince Andrew during the Epstein stuff, and I'm like, that I like.

00:42:24.000 So here's my point about the men.

00:42:27.000 If you look at the polls, the polling, Vox found that like 45% of millennial men vote Democrat.

00:42:34.000 and then like 55% just shy 55 vote Republican. Whereas for women it's about 70% Democrat 1.00

00:42:41.000 and like 28% Republican because there's like some you know like Green Party stuff in there.

00:42:46.000 I think you have half of these guys who are weakened, effeminate, bottom of the bell curve

00:42:53.000 guys who will not stand up, defend the people they love and care about.

00:42:59.000 They will not be masculine. 0.57

00:43:01.000 But I must admit, as much as I have disdain for these guys, I have more disdain for the system that tells them masculinity is bad.

00:43:09.000 And to be ashamed of being masculine.

00:43:12.000 And that's one of the things we see here.

00:43:14.000 So, it's interesting.

00:43:15.000 Phil Labonte just hit me with a good Twitter comment.

00:43:18.000 He said, legal and local.

00:43:21.000 Legal and local.

00:43:22.000 What is it?

00:43:23.000 Elaborate.

00:43:23.000 In terms of dating?

00:43:24.000 Yeah.

00:43:25.000 That's the solution.

00:43:26.000 Legal and local.

00:43:27.000 I hope that's what he was referencing to.

00:43:29.000 Otherwise I'm putting words in his mouth.

00:43:31.000 I think one of the reasons Yeah.

00:43:33.000 that people don't want to believe.

00:43:36.000 And you think about Andrew Tate?

00:43:38.000 It's because this message of opposing the machine plays into a larger picture of,

00:43:42.000 the machine is telling men not to be masculine, which in turn is resulting in men

00:43:46.000 not protecting women and children.

00:43:48.000 And the machine is telling, is advocating for hardcore degeneracy.

00:43:53.000 And so I think for a lot of people, I'm not here to accuse or defend Andrew Tate, but I think what I see from a lot of people in the chat when they're split on this is, if this guy at the very least is saying, exercise, workout, be strong, be tough, and break from the machine, the end result of that puts a stop to a lot of this, whatever it is he's accused of doing.

00:44:12.000 You know what I mean?

00:44:14.000 Sure.

00:44:16.000 So Ghislaine did a lot of nice things too.

00:44:19.000 She was at a, I mean, so abusers, like a serial killer isn't a serial killer, like 24 hours a day, seven days a week.

00:44:27.000 So I'm not saying that some of the things, yeah, yeah, you should work out and eat right.

00:44:30.000 No, no, no.

00:44:31.000 You should break free from the machine.

00:44:33.000 And you should, you know, I'm not saying every man has to be a masculine man, because that's not a thing that I believe, but I mean, yes, you should work out and eat right.

00:44:42.000 You should break free from the machine.

00:44:44.000 You should break free from the Matrix or whatever.

00:44:46.000 You should be red-pilled, white-pilled, past all that, you know, but you should also not abuse people.

00:44:52.000 I think a lot of the problem is a consequence of what Luke was saying about the family structure being destroyed.

00:44:56.000 And a lot of people today, a lot of men today, don't have father figures.

00:44:59.000 And they're raised with the government being their parent, the colleges being their parents.

00:45:04.000 If they have a say at home, mom or dad, that parent is out all the time.

00:45:08.000 So they're kind of being raised by, I think, mostly bad people.

00:45:12.000 But also, when you're not strong, when you don't have a family unit, you're vulnerable.

00:45:16.000 And the predator class, which is made up of a lot of psychopathic politicians and billionaires out there, preys on a lot of individuals who can't defend themselves, who are not strong enough to do so.

00:45:26.000 Or if they are victimized, they're not going to be able to go to anybody because they have no family member in order to protect them or even report that they're missing.

00:45:33.000 I do get what you're saying though, Tim.

00:45:36.000 Okay, sorry.

00:45:36.000 Oh no, I want to pull up this story.

00:45:38.000 This is from the New York Times.

00:45:40.000 This is from about a year and a half ago.

00:45:42.000 As a woman was raped, train riders failed to intervene, police say.

00:45:46.000 And this was just the first story I was able to pull up.

00:45:50.000 About five years ago now, I think it was five years ago, I did a video on my main channel.

00:45:56.000 Men are refusing to help women and children. 0.52

00:45:58.000 It got millions of views.

00:45:59.000 And it was just like this 15 minute thing of me talking about it.

00:46:01.000 There were a handful of stories.

00:46:02.000 One, A woman was on a train and some guy started getting in her face, schmoozing on her and being really aggressive and no man would intervene.

00:46:11.000 And then she was really angry and she was like, why wouldn't any man stand up for me?

00:46:15.000 Well, there's a lot of reasons why they won't do it.

00:46:17.000 Another story I read years ago, this may be like 10 years ago, not this point.

00:46:20.000 A guy was in a store and there was a journalist who was in a store, saw a child crying with no parents, seemingly lost.

00:46:29.000 And she said, I saw a man walk up, walk towards this kid, looking at the kid, concerned, then stopped, looked around, turned around and walked away.

00:46:37.000 They ran up to the child, like this person, and got a security guard to help the person.

00:46:42.000 And then the reporter said, she then ran to the man and asked him why he turned around and didn't help the kid.

00:46:47.000 And the man said, because I would be accused of having kidnapped that kid and I don't want to be involved.

00:46:52.000 That is a crazy prospect that we have this story from Philadelphia where a woman was being raped on the train in front of people and what did they do?

00:47:02.000 Most of them just said, leave me alone.

00:47:04.000 Some of them started filming.

00:47:05.000 No one did anything.

00:47:07.000 There's a lot of reasons.

00:47:09.000 Why men are outright refusing to help women.

00:47:11.000 One, I think some men have disdain for modernity.

00:47:15.000 That we're in this era of toxic... Masculinity is toxic.

00:47:20.000 Women can do whatever they want and, you know, without consequence. 1.00

00:47:23.000 That's how they feel.

00:47:24.000 I'm not saying it's true. 0.79

00:47:25.000 And so you'll get a guy who's probably watching him and be like, screw him, I don't care.

00:47:30.000 Not my problem.

00:47:31.000 Whereas there is an inverted, I was just watching the imitation game about Alan Turing.

00:47:38.000 And it's such BS because he didn't crack Enigma.

00:47:41.000 I was reading up on it.

00:47:42.000 It was like some Polish guy actually who did, but he built the machine.

00:47:44.000 But anyway, he's trying to recruit this woman.

00:47:47.000 And she's like, it would be indecorous of me to come and work for his majesty because it would be around men.

00:47:53.000 And so then he's like, you can work and be in the women's dorms. 0.95

00:47:56.000 And then he can't go to her place because he's a man.

00:47:59.000 That's the alternative, right?

00:48:00.000 A society where the men and women are separated. 0.53

00:48:03.000 When the men are overprotective, you get that.

00:48:05.000 When the men feel like they're not allowed to protect women and children, they'll be punished, imprisoned, or insulted for being masculine, you get the inverse.

00:48:13.000 Is there a happy medium?

00:48:14.000 Or, what do you guys feel about this?

00:48:16.000 I'll just say, like, Someone super chatted, we're not allowed to protect women and children anymore, so why would we?

00:48:22.000 And I'm like, what can I say to that?

00:48:24.000 And your cops don't even protect you, like a Duvalde. 0.98

00:48:27.000 I'll tell you this, if this woman's being raped. 1.00

00:48:30.000 Maybe women have given off an impression that we don't want to be protected or loved or looked after. 1.00

00:48:40.000 Maybe that's the problem.

00:48:42.000 And maybe it should be up to each woman what is the best For her, I think that's important.

00:48:49.000 But, like, I've come out and said it, like, I want to be protected.

00:48:52.000 I want to be loved.

00:48:52.000 I don't want to be out here doing this alone.

00:48:54.000 I don't want to be fighting these demons and ghouls alone. 0.99

00:48:57.000 Like, it sucks. 0.98

00:48:58.000 I'm scared. 0.98

00:49:00.000 I actually am scared.

00:49:01.000 I'm scared I'm gonna get killed.

00:49:03.000 I think a lot of people have a problem facing that darkness, and they choose to just turn away.

00:49:07.000 I think a lot of our society has promoted widespread nihilism as well.

00:49:10.000 I've had a lot of fathers, yeah, tell me they can't look.

00:49:13.000 They can't look at what I'm thinking about, what I'm talking about, what I'm posting.

00:49:16.000 But I don't want to – you struck something in me, Tim, and I don't want to forget it.

00:49:21.000 I do understand why people are very skeptical of these stories.

00:49:24.000 You should be a little, but not to the point where you harass survivors.

00:49:29.000 What can I do as a survivor, as a public survivor, and as an advocate to at least Maybe convey the story better.

00:49:38.000 I don't know what I can do to make people believe people don't believe my story.

00:49:42.000 Evidence.

00:49:45.000 But what evidence are survivors supposed to bring because it's like we bring evidence and it's always not enough.

00:49:53.000 It's never enough.

00:49:54.000 It's like always something.

00:49:56.000 Well, look at Amber Heard.

00:49:58.000 Okay.

00:49:59.000 She writes this op-ed where it's vague and she has this narrative that Johnny Depp is the bad guy.

00:50:07.000 And then the full story kind of comes out and it's like, well, they're both kind of ish heads to each other, but she was definitely being abusive towards him.

00:50:15.000 And so what happens is you have this longstanding, it's been a decade or longer, the, you know, believe all women. 0.83

00:50:22.000 And are our legal systems built upon innocent until proven guilty and the right to confront your accusers?

00:50:27.000 Yes.

00:50:28.000 So immediately people take issue with anonymous accusations without evidence.

00:50:31.000 I mean that's, especially with Julian Assange being falsely accused, that pissed off a lot of people, especially the anti-war movement, because then they dropped it and it was fake to begin with and they used it as an excuse to lock this guy up for a decade and prevent him from doing his work.

00:50:44.000 Yeah, Assange was accused of rape.

00:50:45.000 A lot of people don't know this.

00:50:46.000 No, no, no!

00:50:47.000 He wasn't even accused of rape!

00:50:49.000 But that's what the corporate media ran with. 0.99

00:50:52.000 The corporate media ran with Julian Assange, rapist. 0.69

00:50:56.000 That was a huge story that, of course, allowed the general public to be like, yeah, he's guilty. 0.84

00:51:01.000 Yeah, maybe he should be in jail.

00:51:03.000 And then they put him up in solitary.

00:51:05.000 And then he had to run away.

00:51:06.000 If this story about the train in the New York Times, here's the problem.

00:51:13.000 If a guy on that train grabbed the man who was raping that woman and stopped him, then he would probably get arrested and charged.

00:51:21.000 Yeah, he would.

00:51:22.000 Yeah.

00:51:22.000 He would.

00:51:23.000 But I think what's important is that we're having this conversation, right?

00:51:27.000 And I actually, I have a question for the audience.

00:51:31.000 It's at the start.

00:51:32.000 I got a question.

00:51:33.000 Let's try and figure out how I can phrase this for you guys.

00:51:39.000 Put a one in the chat.

00:51:41.000 If you would attack the rapist to stop him knowing you would get locked up in jail and put a two in chat if you would not want to risk your freedom in life for a random woman.

00:51:54.000 Did that make sense?

00:51:54.000 Did that work?

00:51:56.000 Yeah, I think that's a good question actually.

00:51:57.000 I think the truly masculine, the real masculine is a man saying, let them come.

00:52:04.000 I'm not letting this man hurt this woman.

00:52:06.000 That's in line with the come and take it. 0.80

00:52:09.000 You will try to aggress upon me, you will try to infringe upon my rights, but I will stand firm on what I know to be true.

00:52:15.000 But there's going to be a lot of people who are maybe more cynical, and I don't mean this in a disrespectful way, because I can understand it, where they're like, dude, if they want to keep advocating for this and voting for it, if 70% of millennial women keep wanting to be voting for these policies, why would I go to jail for them when they asked for it?

00:52:31.000 And I mean like ask for the policies, not obviously to be attacked.

00:52:34.000 So one of my rules is that I'm not... Yo, it's split in the chat.

00:52:38.000 It's ones and twos.

00:52:39.000 Sometimes I want to... So it's difficult as a human to hear so many stories, especially about children, and not want to seek vigilante justice.

00:52:48.000 So I understand those who do, but I am of no use if I'm in prison or jail because I decided to go out on a freaking LARP and do things the, you know, whatever way. 0.73

00:52:58.000 But so, it's like you're on a train, and a guy grabs a woman and throws her down, and he's on the train raping her.

00:53:07.000 And there is people saying like, if I intervene, not only will I get hurt, but I'll get arrested. 0.63

00:53:11.000 I'm not doing it.

00:53:12.000 That's crazy to me.

00:53:14.000 Maybe I'm wrong.

00:53:15.000 I've never seen a sexual, I mean, I don't, well, let me make sure I'm not, I don't think I've ever, I've never been in that situation, so it's really difficult.

00:53:23.000 To know what you would do.

00:53:24.000 I mean, does this gentleman have a knife?

00:53:27.000 Does he have a gun?

00:53:28.000 Like, is he... I mean, what are we talking?

00:53:30.000 You know... This is why I'm an anarchist.

00:53:32.000 Because, number one... You see how big he smiled when he said that?

00:53:36.000 Look, look, I'm serious.

00:53:37.000 I'm serious.

00:53:38.000 This is an argument to be made here.

00:53:39.000 It's not a perfect argument, but the police are slow to respond.

00:53:42.000 This happened in Philadelphia where people can't defend themselves.

00:53:45.000 If a woman was able to have a gun and be able to defend herself, these larger sexual assault crimes, these larger rapes, wouldn't be happening as much as they are happening, mainly because a lot of women are left defenseless. 1.00

00:53:56.000 And the one way to have this equalizer is to allow people to be able to defend themselves, which is illegal in places like Pennsylvania, which is absolutely crazy.

00:54:05.000 Again, there's been so many instances of police officers watching people getting stabbed, getting hurt, and just not doing anything, not responding.

00:54:13.000 I just want to add too, in terms of the chat and the super chats, the debate, the people who disagree with you, but other people who are making other points, I'm really digging this.

00:54:25.000 Everybody who's commenting saying, you're wrong, I disagree.

00:54:28.000 Everybody who's commenting saying, I can't believe people wouldn't help her.

00:54:31.000 Everybody who's saying, how could you if the machine is gonna come against you and this is what they're voting on.

00:54:37.000 I think the discussion absolutely is just fantastic, so shout out to the chat.

00:54:41.000 But it's good that we're having these conversations.

00:54:43.000 Talking about it is better than, and also one of the things that I love is when you think through these situations before you're actually in one.

00:54:50.000 Because these are all things that could happen.

00:54:53.000 To you.

00:54:54.000 I know.

00:54:54.000 In real life.

00:54:55.000 This is not a movie, this is not a test, so you should be thinking through in advance what you would do.

00:55:01.000 And much to what Luke was just saying, I am a fully armed survivor of human trafficking.

00:55:07.000 No two ways about it.

00:55:08.000 That's the best way to be.

00:55:09.000 Yep.

00:55:10.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:55:10.000 No discussion.

00:55:11.000 So, more guns.

00:55:12.000 And I encourage... No, we're not going to talk about all that.

00:55:16.000 More personal liberty and more ability for human beings to be able to defend themselves equally against criminals who will always have firearms and weapons.

00:55:23.000 It took me a while to get there.

00:55:24.000 I had a conversation with Maaz Shourey because I was always very scared of guns.

00:55:27.000 Maaz is great.

00:55:29.000 Oh yeah, he's great isn't he?

00:55:31.000 And I had a conversation with Maaz Shourey and my mom and I went and we got geared up for her 60th birthday so it was really fun.

00:55:40.000 And now I feel very empowered and I feel ready.

00:55:44.000 I just don't want to be abused again or have anything happen and I feel like that's the only great equalizer.

00:55:51.000 And training.

00:55:51.000 Don't forget to train.

00:55:52.000 You have to train a lot.

00:55:54.000 Yeah, that's part of it too.

00:55:55.000 You know what the terrifying reality I think is? 0.75

00:55:59.000 The people in these cities like Philadelphia would prefer more rape victims and less dead rapists. 1.00

00:56:06.000 And there's an interesting idea there. 0.69

00:56:08.000 I don't want anyone dead.

00:56:09.000 But think about... I was thinking about this in terms of guns.

00:56:12.000 If this woman on the train had a gun, even like a Derringer with like a, you know, .22 in it or something, this guy would have gotten off it real fast and he'd probably survive. 0.93

00:56:23.000 But there's a reality that one, a woman should be able to protect herself if a man is trying to take her.

00:56:31.000 I believe she should be allowed to use whatever force necessary to protect herself from that man.

00:56:35.000 But this would mean that man dies.

00:56:38.000 Now the left's argument, you see it all the time.

00:56:41.000 There was like, I can't remember the story, but there's been a bunch of them where a guy was like breaking into someone's house and he got shot and killed and they go, you didn't have to kill him!

00:56:49.000 You know, you could have let him victimize you! 0.95

00:56:52.000 And then it's just like, why is it incumbent upon the victim to assume they're going to survive the attack instead of using whatever force they can to try and survive the attack? 0.97

00:57:00.000 So the logic of the left on this tends to be they would rather the rape victim get raped and survive because it means both people live than the woman not get raped but then kill somebody. 0.83

00:57:12.000 You see what I mean? 0.99

00:57:14.000 Like that's their logic.

00:57:16.000 Okay.

00:57:17.000 There was a guy like robbed a liquor store and then he got shot and killed.

00:57:21.000 And they were like, but you didn't have to kill him.

00:57:22.000 You didn't have to kill him.

00:57:23.000 And the guy's like, he came in with a gun to my liquor store.

00:57:27.000 I thought I was going to die.

00:57:28.000 No, he was just robbing.

00:57:29.000 He was just robbing you.

00:57:30.000 This is the sad reality.

00:57:31.000 I don't want anybody to die.

00:57:32.000 Yeah, you don't know until you're in that situation, and if it's a life or death situation.

00:57:37.000 And it could be.

00:57:37.000 And it very well could be.

00:57:38.000 You don't know what level of insanity you're dealing with.

00:57:41.000 I don't want to live in a world where it's the victim's fault or responsibility for having been attacked.

00:57:46.000 I think if you are being victimized, you have a right to defend yourself with whatever force you have available to you, and I think you have a right to keep and bear arms.

00:57:52.000 That means, in this circumstance, that rapist would have died.

00:57:56.000 And that, I gotta be honest, I don't like this guy. 1.00

00:57:59.000 Or had his nuts shut off. 0.89

00:58:00.000 For sure, or seriously injured.

00:58:02.000 I don't want him injured.

00:58:03.000 Look, I want him stopped. 0.89

00:58:06.000 And if the only way to stop him, because women have less muscle mass, less bone density, is to be armed, and that means this guy gets shot, I would rather the woman not be raped, and this guy gets stopped. 0.91

00:58:16.000 But it is horrifying to be like, there's an end result where someone gets hurt.

00:58:20.000 Well, you know what?

00:58:21.000 Don't attack people, because it is your fault. 0.58

00:58:24.000 My view is, if you're a rapist who attacks a woman, And then you get shot, you should be criminally responsible for that bullet to yourself, because you initiated the aggression.

00:58:34.000 And with how incompetent police officers are, or lazy when it comes to prosecuting and actually getting actual justice here, that's going to be maybe one of the sure ways to actually get some kind of redemption here.

00:58:47.000 If you are committing a crime, And then someone dies in the process of that crime.

00:58:54.000 You, the criminal, are responsible.

00:58:55.000 So for example, you and a friend, let's say guy A and guy B rob a liquor store.

00:59:01.000 Liquor store clerk shoots and kills guy B. Guy A, in many states, will get charged for that.

00:59:08.000 There's other circumstances too.

00:59:11.000 Probably a better way to describe it is, if you're in the act of committing a crime and a bystander has a heart attack and dies, they will charge you in many states.

00:59:18.000 Interesting.

00:59:19.000 My view of this, If you are a, so I don't care who the person is, if you are a criminal and you're attacking a woman or anybody, and then you get shot, you should get charged with aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, even though someone else shot you.

00:59:35.000 You started it, it's your fault.

00:59:37.000 Maybe that's a little aggressive, but I don't know if the law has actually stopped the crimes.

00:59:42.000 I actually just kind of feel like if these cities allowed people to keep in bare arms, I actually, I think Philadelphia is not good, Pennsylvania tends to be, Ain't nobody's going to attack a woman if they know she's strapped.

00:59:53.000 But they're promoting lawlessness with this.

00:59:54.000 It would be nice to not have to be strapped.

00:59:58.000 That would be nice.

00:59:59.000 I agree.

01:00:00.000 But I know it's not utopia and I can't live in like, yeah, I get it.

01:00:04.000 I mean, there are evil people in the world regardless of what happens or whatever laws put in place.

01:00:09.000 You have to be prepared to defend yourself.

01:00:11.000 And even 200 years ago, it was bears, wolves, coyotes.

01:00:13.000 Yeah.

01:00:14.000 There was always danger.

01:00:15.000 But in Ancapistan, Ancapistan.

01:00:17.000 There always is danger.

01:00:18.000 Things will be a little different.

01:00:19.000 I mean, there's nothing getting rid of danger.

01:00:20.000 I mean, bad people will always find a way to have guns.

01:00:22.000 Bad people and not danger, I'm saying, will deal with things differently.

01:00:24.000 Did you ever see that video, Luke?

01:00:26.000 We probably talked about it, where the guys playing the game City States.

01:00:28.000 Have you ever heard this show?

01:00:29.000 Yes, we talked about this many times, and it proves what I've been talking about for a very long time.

01:00:35.000 It's real life, okay?

01:00:35.000 It's a video game where you build a city-state, buildings, factories, apartments, housing, etc., and you set policies.

01:00:42.000 More taxes, lower taxes, more authoritarian, with police, less.

01:00:46.000 And so this guy, I think you guys already know who he is because it's such a good video, he's like, I'm gonna get rid of all government, no taxes, just let everything go crazy, it's gonna be a crime-ridden hellhole, So eventually he's like, wait, what's happening?

01:01:01.000 There were ski resorts everywhere.

01:01:02.000 There was zero poverty.

01:01:04.000 Everything was a skyscraper.

01:01:05.000 Every citizen was super wealthy.

01:01:07.000 And he's like, what's going on?

01:01:09.000 How is this happening?

01:01:09.000 There's like no government.

01:01:12.000 Thank you.

01:01:14.000 Can we try this experiment once?

01:01:16.000 And even when it was practiced somewhat, like in Singapore or in Hong Kong, especially with the larger financial ramifications of a laissez-faire kind of government, we had that.

01:01:26.000 We had prosperity.

01:01:27.000 We had so much people progressing and getting wealthy and getting rich and helping each other, and so much less poverty.

01:01:33.000 Whenever the government doesn't intervene, and when they do, they're just acting like thugs.

01:01:37.000 They're just acting like gangsters, getting a cut of their money, screwing everyone else over.

01:01:41.000 And this is why I think the biggest enemy towards humanity is big government, and we should always try to be pushing against it as much as we can.

01:01:47.000 Do you think that's still possible with the population we have now, who is so subservient?

01:01:51.000 There's going to be a messy period where there's going to be a lot of people winning Darwin Awards, but maybe they deserve to win Darwin Awards, right?

01:01:59.000 No, no, let's be real.

01:02:02.000 Would you rather have people win Darwin Awards or would you rather have the federal government use your tax dollars in order to send small children to private islands so people could go there and do something else?

01:02:12.000 What's the lesser of two evils?

01:02:14.000 You know, waging war, nuclear holocaust, we could get into it. 0.97

01:02:17.000 Bioweapons, we could get into it. 0.80

01:02:19.000 What's the lesser of two evils?

01:02:20.000 What's going to lead to less harm?

01:02:23.000 In my personal opinion, what I'm describing.

01:02:25.000 I just want to stress this again, like, the people who are chatting, super chatting, arguing, and very defensive of Tate, the people who are, there's less, critical of them.

01:02:35.000 I just gotta say, like, I feel like this discussion is one of the best discussions we've had on a variety of issues, to be completely honest.

01:02:41.000 Like, Again, agreed with all of the people who are disagreeing and arguing in defense of or against.

01:02:47.000 Like, this feels substantive.

01:02:49.000 No, and I love the conversation.

01:02:52.000 This is the thing that people don't realize about me.

01:02:55.000 Regardless if it's good or bad or if people are talking trash on me or talking about my story or whatever, I'm just happy we are having these conversations.

01:03:04.000 We used to live in a time where a survivor, if they wanted to release a statement, would have to wait for the corporate press to care and then green light it for it to maybe be in the back of the New York Times.

01:03:15.000 Now, I'm a survivor of human trafficking who serves survivors, came up here on independent media, Told you folks and now it's out to many people and we can all talk about it, but we're still talking about, you know, human trafficking, domestic violence, sex abuse, child abuse, child sexual abuse material.

01:03:33.000 We are talking about these things and let me tell you, it makes predators big mad.

01:03:37.000 Predators down bad and abusers down bad and that's the way it should be.

01:03:42.000 You know, I think that before I was searching for this answer like well, where are the men?

01:03:46.000 Well, maybe it's you gentlemen here giving me the platform to have the conversation so that we can keep the conversation going and other survivors don't feel alone.

01:03:55.000 Maybe that is what men are doing and maybe I wasn't seeing the full vision.

01:04:00.000 Well, men should also be protecting women in public as well.

01:04:02.000 That's obviously not happening, but these train stories.

01:04:05.000 But this too, the conversations are important.

01:04:07.000 I love it.

01:04:07.000 Thank you.

01:04:08.000 Let me pull up the story.

01:04:09.000 This is a tweet from NPR highlighted by Libs of TikTok, who said that NPR is big mad that genderqueer is being banned.

01:04:16.000 NPR wrote, in 2020, the book Genderqueer received multiple honors and was headed for a fourth printing.

01:04:22.000 By spring of 2022, it topped the ALA's list of most challenged books.

01:04:27.000 And you know why?

01:04:27.000 I can't show it on YouTube.

01:04:31.000 The NPR article doesn't show it.

01:04:34.000 There are graphic sexual images in that book.

01:04:37.000 And Amazon lists it as 18+.

01:04:40.000 Everybody knows we have it right here.

01:04:41.000 Yeah, check it out.

01:04:42.000 It's right there.

01:04:43.000 Ian got it.

01:04:44.000 And I can pull up the image.

01:04:46.000 There's a few in here.

01:04:49.000 Oh, wow.

01:04:49.000 You know this one, right?

01:04:50.000 Yes, of course, I know this one.

01:04:52.000 I can't even... I know.

01:04:54.000 That proves that we're in dystopian world.

01:04:56.000 I am looking right now at, I can't even show it, but you guys mostly know.

01:05:01.000 And this is the crazy thing because people need to see.

01:05:03.000 They need to see this book was being given to kids.

01:05:06.000 And so this whole thing, this book, not only do I believe its intent is to groom children by exposing, look, they say it's 18 plus on Amazon, but they are giving it to grade schools.

01:05:17.000 And that's why it's being challenged.

01:05:19.000 Introducing kids To kink.

01:05:21.000 It is not reproduction.

01:05:23.000 It is not sex ed. 0.76

01:05:24.000 It is kink. 0.83

01:05:25.000 It is kink advocacy. 0.96

01:05:27.000 Because they're showing toys and prosthesis and things like that to children.

01:05:32.000 This is part of grooming and radical gender theory, which is resulting in, as we were just talking about, men not protecting women.

01:05:40.000 One, the attack on masculinity.

01:05:41.000 You know, masculinity is a fantastic thing.

01:05:43.000 And so is femininity. 0.99

01:05:45.000 It's yin-yang. 0.95

01:05:46.000 They are two pieces of this great puzzle of the world.

01:05:49.000 They complement each other.

01:05:50.000 But for some reason now, I mean, I know many people can just assume the reason, the narrative is that one side is extremely awful and bad no matter what.

01:06:01.000 And so what you end up with is men who don't want to be masculine.

01:06:05.000 They're being told to wear dresses. 0.80

01:06:07.000 They're being told to be effeminate.

01:06:09.000 And this results in men not standing up and protecting women.

01:06:12.000 It results in women then being victimized. 1.00

01:06:14.000 It results in women then advocating for a world and policy and law in which they have no protection from males. 0.99

01:06:21.000 And so it's akin to gun law in this way.

01:06:25.000 In the city of Chicago, you can't have guns.

01:06:27.000 Like, you sort of can.

01:06:28.000 It's very, very difficult.

01:06:29.000 What happens?

01:06:30.000 Rampant gun crime.

01:06:32.000 People being shot left and right.

01:06:34.000 But good, innocent, law-abiding people can't have guns.

01:06:37.000 In terms of radical gender theory, it results in good, humbly masculine men being unable to stand up for what they believe in, to protect women and children, and even other men.

01:06:48.000 And it results in the most toxic and evil men exploiting and taking advantage of women with no hindrance.

01:06:55.000 It's anti-future.

01:06:57.000 I think I've heard Luke say this before, and I agree with him when he says, like, we're more in, like, a cultural revolution in terms of, like, Mao in the 60s with China.

01:07:04.000 And when I see this stuff, what they're doing to children, I see it as, like, a way for them to destroy the future.

01:07:10.000 Like, Mao destroyed the past and a lot of Chinese culture, language, art, statues, stuff like that, to then recreate the future.

01:07:17.000 And then by destroying the innocence of children, they are literally destroying the humans of the future.

01:07:24.000 And that's so scary to me, because I'm watching kids, young kids, who are inheriting nihilism from their parents who refuse to stand up to do anything against the bad stuff. 0.98

01:07:32.000 And it's just like, well, you're screwed. 0.75

01:07:34.000 Because how do you fix that? 0.98

01:07:35.000 How do you fix nihilism in a nine-year-old?

01:07:37.000 You know what?

01:07:38.000 I view myself as a positive nihilist.

01:07:41.000 And there's negative nihilist.

01:07:42.000 Let me explain.

01:07:43.000 So I can give you a very rudimentary understanding of nihilism.

01:07:47.000 Basically, how would you describe it?

01:07:48.000 Nothing matters.

01:07:49.000 Total meaninglessness.

01:07:50.000 Total meaninglessness.

01:07:51.000 But hold on.

01:07:52.000 Hold on.

01:07:53.000 I don't disagree with that.

01:07:55.000 I take it to a positive place.

01:07:57.000 Meaning is what you decide it is.

01:07:59.000 Life has the value that you ascribe to it.

01:08:02.000 If you... So I had this phase when I was younger where I was like, what's the point of anything?

01:08:06.000 Where does this all go?

01:08:07.000 And then I thought to myself, if this doesn't go anywhere, then there's nothing holding me back

01:08:12.000 from trying to do the best things I can in terms of what this world considers to be good,

01:08:17.000 like positive and constructive.

01:08:20.000 And then I meet a lot of people, a lot of left activists especially,

01:08:23.000 who are negative nihilists.

01:08:24.000 Nothing matters, so why don't we just burn it down for fun?

01:08:28.000 You can think nothing matters.

01:08:30.000 I have no problem with that.

01:08:31.000 It's what do you do next?

01:08:33.000 For me, it was like, if there is no inherent mattering to anything,

01:08:37.000 that means we assign that value.

01:08:39.000 We decide.

01:08:40.000 And if I decide, I'm going to decide on good things.

01:08:43.000 Making people feel better.

01:08:44.000 Giving them good long-term solutions.

01:08:47.000 Longevity.

01:08:48.000 Family.

01:08:49.000 Life.

01:08:49.000 Creation.

01:08:50.000 Exploration.

01:08:51.000 Those are all good things.

01:08:51.000 I'm with you on the positive nihilist thing.

01:08:54.000 Because I'm the same way.

01:08:54.000 Because I see a lot of meaninglessness in the world.

01:08:57.000 And I'm finding meaning in my family.

01:08:59.000 And in my own religion that I'm working on, but like, I think what we can agree on is we see a hope in people, whereas the negative nihilists want to destroy people and themselves.

01:09:09.000 And that's where the anti-human, anti-future comes in.

01:09:12.000 And I think the positive nihilists, as more rare as it might be, I'd imagine, like my view of the world is, I wouldn't call it absolute nihilism.

01:09:23.000 I would say I do see a lot of things as being meaningless, but I do think there is meaning to us, why we are here, why humans exist.

01:09:31.000 And so I would find myself more in agreement with a staunch conservative.

01:09:36.000 A Christian or religious person who genuinely believes in larger purpose and something bigger than themselves.

01:09:43.000 I'm like halfway there.

01:09:44.000 That's why I say I believe in God, but I'm not like religiously theistic or anything.

01:09:48.000 If you are someone who believes there's no meaning, but that if that's the case, we should be the best people we can be because we made the meaning.

01:09:56.000 Like if you don't think there's a God or morality and you think nothing matters, And then you decide from that, I want to make sure everybody lives the best they can because it's up to us to decide.

01:10:07.000 I think that kind of person is going to be more aligned with people of faith and religion who are of a similar... Not saying every religious person is a good person.

01:10:14.000 Oh yeah, of course not.

01:10:15.000 Nope!

01:10:15.000 I'm saying the good people of faith and the good people of positive impact will work together with smiles on their faces.

01:10:21.000 Despite my nihilism, even it might be mostly positive, I believe in free will.

01:10:26.000 And I think a lot of people who are negative nihilists are determinists who believe that there's no, everything's set out for them.

01:10:32.000 So there's no point to their life.

01:10:35.000 And I know those people personally, and I argue with them on the ideas of free will and determinism.

01:10:39.000 I think determinism is another anti-human idea.

01:10:42.000 That means you're stuck in whatever path you're in and there's no point, these people have no fight out of their negativity.

01:10:49.000 It bums me out.

01:10:50.000 Oh yeah, it's super sad.

01:10:51.000 Like I've told this story, you know, at Occupy Wall Street there was this prominent writer and we had a converse, like they were nasty to me and they were smack talking and then when we talked in private is this woman and she was very much just like, oh I don't care about anything, I'm a nihilist, it's just fun.

01:11:05.000 And I was like, well look, I agree with you that for a lot of people, you look through life, you look at everything and you ask yourself, to what end?

01:11:13.000 If I do this, then what?

01:11:14.000 If I have kids, then what?

01:11:15.000 If I build this, then what?

01:11:16.000 What's the point?

01:11:17.000 Why not do something else?

01:11:18.000 And I was like, so I take from that, The desire to build something positive that has a good result that grows.

01:11:25.000 And she goes, yeah, but if it doesn't matter, then isn't it just fun to burn it all down?

01:11:30.000 And I'm like, not really.

01:11:32.000 People suffer from that.

01:11:34.000 And if there are people who do have meaning in life and you're causing them pain, pain is bad.

01:11:38.000 But this was the mentality of these like antifa types.

01:11:41.000 Oh yeah.

01:11:42.000 That's why they don't care to throw a brick through a window. 0.99

01:11:43.000 It feels good, and who cares?

01:11:45.000 It doesn't matter anyway, right?

01:11:46.000 I'm into seeing the establishment burn.

01:11:48.000 Like, that's fine, to return a type of power to the people.

01:11:51.000 Careful with what you say!

01:11:53.000 No, I mean that wholeheartedly.

01:11:54.000 What do you say, burn the simulation down?

01:11:57.000 Well, yeah, because I don't believe the simulation like how Elon believes it, like zeros and ones.

01:12:02.000 I mean that they've put an organic organism simulation on top of our base reality.

01:12:07.000 And that should go because it's stripping us of our free will.

01:12:10.000 You say in a video game, but I just want to point out like if maybe we are in a

01:12:13.000 video, if it was possible, if it was OK, look, if it was possible to set a fire to

01:12:19.000 the code that is the universe, you know, we'd be in very serious trouble if someone

01:12:24.000 could like I'm going like burning on the simulation is a figurative statement that

01:12:28.000 just means like, you know, it depends how you view the simulation.

01:12:31.000 Yeah.

01:12:32.000 You know, maybe the Large Hadron Collider is a way to burn down a type of simulation.

01:12:36.000 It'd be funny if the Large Hadron Collider is like, there's a bunch of global elites who genuinely believe we're in a simulation and they're trying to like, manipulate code.

01:12:45.000 They're trying to like, like, I mean, that may be a way to view it.

01:12:48.000 It's like the code of the universe.

01:12:50.000 They're trying to manipulate it.

01:12:51.000 Talk to people who've opened up portal, who said they've been with portals who bring in beasts through other dimensions.

01:12:56.000 So I don't know.

01:12:57.000 I've heard some crazy ayahuasca stories.

01:13:00.000 Yeah, right.

01:13:00.000 And how much of that is in their minds and how much is like, is that really beyond the veil or whatever?

01:13:06.000 Do you think there's a layer to a lot of this, a bigger kind of abuse stuff when it comes to the spiritual war that's happening out there?

01:13:13.000 Because We know there's people like Brina Brovomitch that do spirit cooking.

01:13:17.000 We know that there's a lot of rituals.

01:13:19.000 We know that there's a lot of also individuals that believe in kind of a satanic order.

01:13:23.000 Have you seen anything like this from your line of work or have anything to kind of add to that?

01:13:31.000 I have not, so I don't really, just by happenstance, it's not that I don't, haven't tried or actively tried or not tried.

01:13:38.000 I know individuals who have experienced abuse with some of that, but I haven't served any survivors specifically that have faced that type of abuse.

01:13:49.000 The survivor that actually had the organization that saved my life, Eve's Angels, kind of delves into some of that.

01:13:55.000 There's some survivors that I know, like Rose McGowan kind of comes from a darker childhood.

01:14:00.000 We're friends.

01:14:04.000 Do I think it's evil?

01:14:06.000 Yes.

01:14:06.000 Do I think there's something dark?

01:14:08.000 Like a deeper, energetic, spiritual war to all of this.

01:14:11.000 Of course.

01:14:12.000 I think there is.

01:14:13.000 I think there's a plethora of a lot of evidence.

01:14:16.000 As I get older, things start to feel more demonic and holy or light.

01:14:23.000 When I was younger, I genuinely was like, there's no such thing as good or evil.

01:14:27.000 There's just people of different perspectives and views.

01:14:30.000 And then I get older, I learn more, I travel more, I've been to other countries,

01:14:33.000 and then I'm just like reading these stories, and I was like, these people are evil.

01:14:37.000 And it may be hard to understand because it oversimplifies, but I think you get old enough,

01:14:45.000 and you look at the behaviors of certain individuals, and you realize there is nothing pure.

01:14:49.000 There is just malintent.

01:14:51.000 It is a darkness within them.

01:14:52.000 This is why individuals like, you know, Jeffrey Epstein and Bill Gates were connected together because they believed that there was too many people on this earth and that they were all both eugenicists.

01:15:02.000 They all believed in, of course, having A class of individuals.

01:15:07.000 Epstein was doing a lot of human experimentation and a lot of scientific projects, especially when it came to him cloning a large portion of the earth.

01:15:15.000 A lot of weird stuff was going on.

01:15:17.000 Yes, he had one of his scientific experiments that we actually know about, was that he was trying to get as many women as he could so he could impregnate them at the same time in order to spread his genes everywhere.

01:15:29.000 So that's literally what these people are up to.

01:15:32.000 That's literally some of the thinking that goes into it.

01:15:34.000 Some people say it's because they just have too much money, too much power, too much control and they just do things in order to get some kind of feeling and effect from it because everything is meaningless to them.

01:15:43.000 Or some people say that they've been overcome and taken over by larger spiritual demonic forces that they're acting on behets of and they've been kind of hijacked by them and they're kind of doing their bidding.

01:15:53.000 Whatever you may believe on this particular topic, I think there's a reason that they do have a lot of these kind of ceremonies, a lot of these kind of larger actions, a lot of the times bragging about a lot of the stuff they do in plain sight.

01:16:08.000 I think there's, you know, I could go further down the rabbit hole, but I don't want to do that on this show.

01:16:13.000 But it gets, the rabbit hole gets a lot deeper than it goes here.

01:16:16.000 There's a few things that Brought me back to believing in God years ago.

01:16:21.000 But one of those things was when the Epstein news broke, I was like, this is the most evil thing that I could imagine, like in my time with the kids and stuff.

01:16:31.000 That if there's something that evil, there must be a counter, a good, you know, a balance to that.

01:16:35.000 Because in nature, I see balance.

01:16:37.000 I see, you know, in the seasons alone.

01:16:39.000 So that was like a big moment for me when I remember it was like a beautiful day too.

01:16:43.000 And I was just like, It was so it became so dark when I really went down that rabbit hole and investigating that story So I think for a lot of people I think it really I think that story broke a lot of people and I think that's why we sort of saw And I understand why I mean, it's devastating.

01:17:01.000 It's horrific on a scale unimaginable But I think that's that sort of breaking of the mind is sort of why a lot of folks Went down a role of following I don't want to get you in trouble.

01:17:17.000 QAnon.

01:17:19.000 They like went down that because they're brainbroken.

01:17:21.000 They're like, if that isn't true, you know, if that happened, then what else is happening?

01:17:25.000 You know, one of the things, and I know Luke will understand this, like Epstein was really bad.

01:17:30.000 The United States government will bomb millions of children and keep wars going.

01:17:38.000 You know, kill millions for a paycheck. 0.88

01:17:42.000 So, I mean, this Epstein, absolutely horrible.

01:17:45.000 Many, many survivors globally.

01:17:48.000 Many that we will never know their names.

01:17:50.000 Think about what our own government does as far as... I consider our government like a serial killer.

01:17:54.000 Well, worse.

01:17:55.000 Yeah, I mean, on a massive scale.

01:17:57.000 And we fund it.

01:17:58.000 Because I always think of Tuskegee, you know, stuff like that.

01:18:00.000 We fund it.

01:18:02.000 The thousands of survivors of the UN globally, at the hands of the UN, you know, child exploitation, sexual exploitation, and we fund them 22%.

01:18:14.000 27%, sorry.

01:18:15.000 It seems like humans at scale become sociopathic.

01:18:18.000 Yeah.

01:18:19.000 I mean, look, the U.S.

01:18:20.000 certainly is better than basically everything else we've seen throughout history.

01:18:25.000 Yes.

01:18:25.000 We've done tremendous in this country for advancing civil rights.

01:18:29.000 Yes.

01:18:29.000 You know, different groups.

01:18:30.000 And we have a great degree of freedom that many countries have never had, but that's thanks to the initial seed planted of this country.

01:18:36.000 And you look at all the, you mentioned Tuskegee, MKUltra, I mean, there's a lot!

01:18:42.000 We're really messy, aren't we?

01:18:44.000 Oh, yeah.

01:18:45.000 It's bad.

01:18:45.000 Aren't humans messy?

01:18:46.000 But you look at Stalin, you look at the communists, you know, I wonder if it's powerful sociopaths' rise to power and just, like, I shouldn't say sociopaths, people of no empathy in general.

01:18:59.000 People who just don't care about you, who view themselves as God, rise to power, and then cause mass harm?

01:19:05.000 Or is it just that when the machine of humans collectivizes and becomes too big, they just have tremendous power that causes harm in various ways?

01:19:12.000 I think it's both.

01:19:13.000 Without accountability and without care.

01:19:15.000 Right, it's probably both.

01:19:15.000 Like, I think I mentioned this when Bryson was on, but we talked about Unit 731 with Japan, what they did to people, which is atrocious.

01:19:21.000 I'll give you an example.

01:19:22.000 They would take someone and stick their arm through a hole into sub-zero weather, so their arm would freeze while they were still alive inside, then they would pull their frozen arm in and shatter it with a hammer.

01:19:33.000 Yes, I believe vivisection is something else that they would open up someone, watch the organs work, and then make them eat themselves.

01:19:40.000 But what I was gonna say is, There are people in there who are probably just part of the system who get chewed up on both sides, obviously.

01:19:45.000 But then there are people in charge, like I forget his name, but he ended up becoming like a giant CEO of a big pharmaceutical company.

01:19:53.000 I forget what it was at this point, but it became a huge one in Japan.

01:19:56.000 So I think there's a mixture of greed with those people, the power, and then they just have a lot of people that they can control.

01:20:03.000 It's crazy stuff, man.

01:20:04.000 Oh, it's evil.

01:20:05.000 Angela Mcgirdle from the Libertarian Party put up a super chat.

01:20:10.000 Yeah, she gave you a shout-out. 0.98

01:20:11.000 Did she?

01:20:11.000 Yeah, yeah, she gave you a shout-out.

01:20:12.000 That's one of my besties.

01:20:13.000 Oh, that's awesome.

01:20:14.000 Yeah, shout-out to you, Angela.

01:20:15.000 And actually, shout-out to my cousin Nathan.

01:20:17.000 He's a big fan of yours, Tim. 0.75

01:20:19.000 Sick.

01:20:19.000 Oh, right on.

01:20:20.000 He saw me on the last, I should tell you guys this story.

01:20:23.000 He saw me on the last episode, and he didn't know anything about any of this whole thing.

01:20:28.000 And we were at his mother's funeral, and he's rather shy, and we haven't talked a lot.

01:20:35.000 But we don't have any beef.

01:20:37.000 We just don't talk a lot.

01:20:38.000 He's a pretty shy person.

01:20:40.000 And it was at his mother's funeral, unfortunately, she passed away.

01:20:45.000 And the first thing I think he's ever really said to me that was like, he was like, saw you on Tubecast.

01:20:52.000 That was weird.

01:20:53.000 I was like, yeah, that was weird.

01:20:55.000 But it was kind of cute because we had a bonding moment on such a rough day.

01:20:58.000 Yeah.

01:20:59.000 And so yeah, that's been one thing that's kind of been weird about stepping forward is like now my family Knows everything.

01:21:06.000 And, uh, but... Let's... I'm sorry, you should finish the thought.

01:21:11.000 Sorry.

01:21:12.000 No, you're good.

01:21:12.000 I was about to ramble and you probably saved me.

01:21:16.000 But let's talk about Elon and Twitter before we go, because folks might not know that story.

01:21:21.000 And it's pretty awesome.

01:21:22.000 Which one?

01:21:22.000 What happened?

01:21:23.000 The fact that I worked my butt off for two years to get Twitter to make changes and begged and begged.

01:21:29.000 And I did it all by myself with no government help and no money and no support from any organization.

01:21:34.000 I did it all on my own and got the attention of Elon Musk, who purchased the platform and then made the issue priority number one.

01:21:41.000 I think it's a good story.

01:21:42.000 Did you have silence from the previous Twitter administration?

01:21:45.000 Jack Dorsey did help me out a little bit, but it wasn't enough.

01:21:49.000 Elon Musk has been absolutely incredible.

01:21:53.000 He's been gracious.

01:21:54.000 He's been kind.

01:21:55.000 He's gone above and beyond to support me and to implement new suggestions.

01:22:01.000 I don't know what this new hit piece is about, but I can just assume it's in the least favorable Light and I don't remember them doing such deep investigative journalism while I was out here screaming.

01:22:13.000 Oh exactly two years Two plus years actually but it was really learning about the story of John no one in John Doe to that Sort of set me on that crusade and I'm so grateful to Elon Musk for even listening to me And starting to implement some changes.

01:22:29.000 Yeah, so Yeah, right on.

01:22:32.000 You mentioned, Q, I wanted to pull up this story from the Salt Lake Tribune.

01:22:36.000 These Utah brothers want the Supreme Court to remove Joe Biden from the White House and reinstate Donald Trump.

01:22:42.000 The U.S.

01:22:43.000 Supreme Court could decide on Friday whether or not to hear a long-shot lawsuit that alleges members of Congress broke their oath of office by certifying the 2020 presidential election.

01:22:54.000 Now, I'm sorry if this comes off as dismissive, But long shot is an understatement.

01:23:01.000 Not because, I'm not making an argument on the merits.

01:23:03.000 I always think that merits should be heard out.

01:23:06.000 And sometimes that means summary dismissal, sometimes it means discovery, sometimes it means summary judgment, whatever.

01:23:13.000 But the idea that, what are we looking at?

01:23:16.000 The idea that 387 members of Congress, the President and Vice President, would be removed by the Supreme Court is just So far-fetched, I do not believe there is a reality in which that could happen.

01:23:34.000 Okay, obviously, if there's infinite realities, it happens infinite number of times, but I'm just like, as much as it, I mean, I wish.

01:23:43.000 How amazing would it be if, like, come Monday, the Supreme Court's like, we're gonna hear the lawsuit, and then they bang the gavel, and they're like, you're right, Congress dismissed, President gone, and then we have no Congress, and we have no executive branch.

01:23:53.000 Luke?

01:23:53.000 Sounds pretty good.

01:23:54.000 One could only dream.

01:23:56.000 Right, right, right.

01:23:57.000 I think anything's possible.

01:23:58.000 I don't know anymore.

01:23:59.000 The last five years have proven to me that literally anything's possible.

01:24:03.000 But this does seem like an evolution of a lot of the Q stuff, where people I had friends, I would go over their house and be like, all these people have died. 1.00

01:24:09.000 And I think they're in Guantanamo.

01:24:11.000 And I'm like, I don't know about that, dude, but maybe.

01:24:14.000 Well, I don't trust these news outlets.

01:24:16.000 Like, the Salt Lake Tribune says it's making accusations of fraud and all that stuff.

01:24:19.000 Maybe.

01:24:20.000 I just don't believe them.

01:24:20.000 Yeah.

01:24:21.000 Because I think there is actual grounds for a lawsuit based on procedural elements of the 2020 election.

01:24:26.000 That is to say, is universal mail-in voting constitutional?

01:24:29.000 Some of these questions never got resolved in many states.

01:24:32.000 Texas v. Pennsylvania never even got heard.

01:24:34.000 I think it was Texas v. Pennsylvania was the major lawsuit.

01:24:36.000 And the Supreme Court refused to hear it.

01:24:38.000 So, there never even was an argument about whether or not anything that was going on was constitutional.

01:24:43.000 I think the court should hear that.

01:24:45.000 If that is the basis for this, I certainly don't see a reality in which nearly the entirety of Congress is removed.

01:24:53.000 I think 75% of this country would be in favor of that.

01:24:56.000 Isn't that kind of crazy?

01:24:58.000 Approval for Congress is so low that if they held a convention of states and a referendum on just removing and restarting Congress, I bet it would pass.

01:25:08.000 Probably.

01:25:09.000 I'm seeing a lot of people cheer the last few days, which is exciting in terms of not voting on a speaker, right?

01:25:15.000 I see people I'm friends with who disagree with me on certain things politically, but we can all enjoy that because it's just stalling a place that I think seeks to harm us anyway.

01:25:25.000 Well, at 10 o'clock, they are going to reconvene in the House, and then Kevin McCarthy's claiming he's gonna win, so we'll see.

01:25:31.000 But I can say this.

01:25:33.000 Whatever ends up happening with the Brunson thing, I'm gonna go ahead and bet probably nothing.

01:25:37.000 I think the Supreme Court will not hear it.

01:25:38.000 If they do, I will be very surprised.

01:25:41.000 But regardless of what you think about this case, I think it's fair to say that there is something deeply wrong with this country.

01:25:48.000 And that we all recognize it, whether the left recognizes it or the right does.

01:25:53.000 The establishment There is something deeply wrong.

01:25:56.000 And what that solution is, you'd think would be a rages of grievances through a lawsuit, but it seems like none of these things ever have an impact.

01:26:04.000 And the argument from the machine is always, they're meritless.

01:26:07.000 And it's just like, come on, man.

01:26:10.000 You know, as you wrote about with the Carrie Lake stuff, the judge ruled against Carrie Lake, she's appealing, but there was evidence presented that needs to be accounted for.

01:26:20.000 That is to say, why were the tabulators rejecting ballots?

01:26:23.000 Because they were 19-inch images on 20-inch paper, so they couldn't go through.

01:26:27.000 That creates a problem, and you can't just be like, oh, don't worry, they dropped it in a ballot box and it got counted later, and it's like, okay, so let's have a conversation about how at, what was it, 72 locations, someone changed the images on these printers.

01:26:40.000 That they just started talking about on the second day of trial.

01:26:44.000 Exactly.

01:26:44.000 And they denied it happened in the first day.

01:26:46.000 So if the end result is that there was one guy who went around going and pressing the buttons, lock him up.

01:26:54.000 But they just ignore it.

01:26:55.000 That's the problem.

01:26:56.000 Even the courtroom couldn't run things technically, like proficiently.

01:26:59.000 It's like if a small closed system like a courtroom couldn't even get like HDMI cables right.

01:27:04.000 What makes you think all these elections are going on safely?

01:27:06.000 Wait, you guys still have faith in government?

01:27:09.000 You think they're gonna do something good for you?

01:27:14.000 It's like I'm trying to, I know I don't have faith in the government, but it's like I'm trying to keep faith in people.

01:27:18.000 But I'm having, I'm losing faith in people because I even think if we remove the government, like I was saying to you about moving on to an anarchist, I know No, but how?

01:27:26.000 Because I'm surrounded by people who truly worship the establishment.

01:27:31.000 The argument I would make is because psychopaths usually flee to the biggest positions of power, this is why government is a vector for them and we should always push back against them.

01:27:41.000 Sorry, I thought you were raising your hand trying to say something.

01:27:43.000 No, I got a tic-tac.

01:27:45.000 Yeah, practicing with I usually take with my left.

01:27:48.000 So I'm using my right.

01:27:48.000 I agree.

01:27:49.000 But but yeah, the other thing about that trial that was upsetting is like, I was also kind of having flashbacks to the summer of the riots.

01:27:56.000 Because even if you have evidence, even if they show it in court, A whole country could look at it together and half of them could just not believe the evidence.

01:28:05.000 Even if it's a video showing these things not working, people would be like, nah, don't believe it.

01:28:09.000 And it's like, the problem isn't about the evidence, it's not about the system really, because now it's really about just how we view ourselves and the world.

01:28:18.000 And that's where my pessimist nihilism is starting to creep in, because we're not in a good place there.

01:28:24.000 Totally.

01:28:25.000 I'm so white-pilled about the future.

01:28:27.000 I'm so white-pilled.

01:28:28.000 That's good, because I was going to ask you, like, you talk to a lot of survivors.

01:28:32.000 Yeah.

01:28:32.000 How do you keep hope when you hear all these, like, dark stories?

01:28:38.000 So there's evil and there's darkness in the world, but there's also a lot of good in the world.

01:28:43.000 And good and light and love will win in the end.

01:28:46.000 And unfortunately, not everybody will make it there with us.

01:28:51.000 Not everybody gonna make it, but it will win in the end.

01:28:54.000 History has shown us this repeatedly over and over again, no matter how dark things are.

01:29:00.000 Some will make it, and good and light love will win in the end, and it doesn't stay bad forever.

01:29:04.000 I love that.

01:29:05.000 I wanna ask one quick question before we go to Super Chats.

01:29:07.000 I was just thinking about this, because I'm seeing people chat.

01:29:09.000 My question is, and it's not just for you, but for anyone.

01:29:12.000 Can a woman choose to be a sex worker at the request of a man? 1.00

01:29:21.000 Can you say that again?

01:29:23.000 If a man asks a woman to be a sex worker working for him, and she says yes, is that a legitimate choice she made?

01:29:33.000 So the woman is over 18, and the man's over 18, and is there coercion?

01:29:38.000 Is there coercion, like when you say ask?

01:29:40.000 Just, we'll put plain and simple.

01:29:43.000 A man goes to a woman and says, I'm gonna create a cam business, how would you like to be one of my cam girls? 1.00

01:29:48.000 And she says yes.

01:29:49.000 Is that a legitimate choice on her part?

01:29:53.000 It just depends on the entire breakdown of it.

01:29:57.000 And by the way, everyone's going to have an opinion on this, and many people won't agree with me.

01:30:03.000 I believe that an individual can be a willing adult entertainer, but that would have to come from inside the individual that wants to be a willing adult entertainer.

01:30:12.000 Um, as far as someone asking, like, if you said to me, hey, Eliza, I, um, need an extra host on the show.

01:30:20.000 Will you come be a host on the show?

01:30:22.000 I could then choose, but I, if, even if I didn't ask you to be a host on the show, then I would still be choosing to be a host on the show.

01:30:30.000 Does that make, I don't know.

01:30:33.000 Each situation is going to be different.

01:30:34.000 So if coercion, if forced fraud or coercion is involved, it's human trafficking.

01:30:39.000 If it's not involved, then it's not human trafficking.

01:30:41.000 Even if it's just having you host a show?

01:30:43.000 No, no, no, no, no.

01:30:44.000 No, I'm sorry.

01:30:45.000 I wasn't trying to mix the two with the camming.

01:30:47.000 No.

01:30:48.000 That would only be labor trafficking if you used forced fraud or coercion to get me to work for you for free and you kept the money.

01:30:54.000 So for free?

01:30:55.000 Free or a little bit of a pay?

01:30:57.000 So this is what I was getting to because someone said in the chat, regret is not rape or something like that.

01:31:04.000 And others made the point that if women chose to do a job for someone, the reasons they chose to do the job aren't material. 0.98

01:31:10.000 And so here's what I was thinking.

01:31:11.000 I made a tweet that got a lot of attention and I thought it was hilarious.

01:31:14.000 I said, if sex work is work, then can an employer require his staff to service him?

01:31:21.000 I remember that tweet, Tim.

01:31:24.000 But here's the problem.

01:31:25.000 I remember that tweet.

01:31:26.000 It's a real question.

01:31:27.000 It's a real question that they can't answer, and that's why they got mad.

01:31:31.000 Because clearly, sex work is not work. 0.64

01:31:33.000 Sex work is sex work. 1.00

01:31:34.000 So no means no.

01:31:36.000 And if an individual at any time expresses that they're not comfortable, they should be allowed to go or allowed to stop without... I'm going back to the original question, just to be clear.

01:31:48.000 But as far as coercion goes, it would depend, and some folks identify, so do I think someone can willingly do that work?

01:31:56.000 Yes.

01:31:56.000 Do I think folks can be coerced into doing the work?

01:31:59.000 Yes.

01:32:00.000 And that would be up to the individual doing it, and in the case of a survivor stepping forward or victim stepping forward, we would let the court decide if it was coerced.

01:32:11.000 Was that person able to leave at any time?

01:32:13.000 Right, so- Anytime?

01:32:14.000 Yes.

01:32:14.000 So would it be coercion if I said, Shane, move from California to West Virginia, where you will have this job hosting this show, and don't worry, we'll make sure you have a place to live, and if Shane was like, man, it's gonna be really hard for me to move, don't worry, man, we'll take care of you.

01:32:34.000 Then he gets here and I say, I want you to take the garbage out now, otherwise I'm firing you.

01:32:39.000 Is that coercion?

01:32:41.000 It would depend on the nature, I mean, there's a lot of variables there.

01:32:45.000 I don't know.

01:32:45.000 Was that part of his job that you agreed on?

01:32:47.000 Was there written agreement?

01:32:48.000 If I could have false pretenses, that would probably be coercion.

01:32:51.000 This is my point.

01:32:52.000 If you go to a person who lives in Canada and say, move to the United States, you'll be on a work visa, we'll pay you X amount of dollars, we'll give you a place to live, and you will do job A. Yes.

01:33:02.000 Then they arrive, and you say, you know what?

01:33:04.000 We also want you to take the garbage out from now on.

01:33:06.000 And they say, hey man, I didn't agree to do the garbage. 0.82

01:33:08.000 Well, if you don't do it, I'm firing you. 0.94

01:33:10.000 You can't, but if you fire me, how am I going to get back to my home country?

01:33:13.000 Well, it's too bad.

01:33:14.000 You should have thought of that.

01:33:15.000 Like, is that coercion?

01:33:16.000 Are they holding the papers?

01:33:17.000 Are they restricting them from walking out the door?

01:33:20.000 No, you can leave.

01:33:21.000 Good luck getting a plane back to Canada, though, and finding a place to live once you go back to your country. 0.99

01:33:24.000 Is that coercion?

01:33:26.000 Maybe you lured them there under false pretenses, but I would let the courts decide coercion.

01:33:32.000 To me, that doesn't sound coercive.

01:33:36.000 It is coercion in a way, but not in a way of human trafficking.

01:33:38.000 So what if a guy said to a woman, come work for me and be the host of a show, we'll pay you. 1.00

01:33:44.000 Then she gets here and they say, as part of your job, you'll be performing sex acts. 0.68

01:33:47.000 And she goes, no.

01:33:48.000 Well, then you can get out, you're fired.

01:33:50.000 Is that coercion?

01:33:52.000 Yes.

01:33:53.000 So, this is my point.

01:33:55.000 The only difference is the action.

01:33:57.000 If the action is something like physical labor, you say, well, maybe it's for the court to decide.

01:34:02.000 If it's sexual, hands down it is.

01:34:04.000 That's my point.

01:34:05.000 Sex work is not work. 0.99

01:34:06.000 Sex work is clearly distinct.

01:34:07.000 Sex work is clearly its own category.

01:34:09.000 Well, that would also possibly fall under sexual harassment.

01:34:12.000 That would be a couple different crimes, but I'm not gonna... Well, this is the point I was making to the left.

01:34:18.000 When they come out and say sex work is work, they are basically saying that whether you are performing a sex act or taking out the garbage, you're doing work.

01:34:26.000 And then that's why I asked that question.

01:34:28.000 No, that's not true.

01:34:30.000 Because sex is clearly in a specific protected category.

01:34:33.000 I mean, like, acts of a sexual nature. 0.62

01:34:36.000 Taking out the garbage is not. 0.97

01:34:37.000 You go to a lawyer and you say, I want you to take out your garbage.

01:34:40.000 If they say no, you can fire them. 0.69

01:34:42.000 You cannot go to a lawyer and say, I want you to start performing gratification on another person.

01:34:47.000 That's illegal.

01:34:49.000 So as much as many of these leftists try to make that argument, it's just not the case.

01:34:52.000 And that's why I agree with you.

01:34:54.000 Telling someone to come out for a job that's like juggling bowling pins.

01:34:58.000 Then when they get there, you say, you also got to clean the floors.

01:35:00.000 And they say, no, well, then you're fired.

01:35:01.000 Yeah, well, too bad you got fired. 0.98

01:35:03.000 But if they say, come out here to juggle bowling pins, once they get there, they say, now you've got to perform sex acts. 1.00

01:35:08.000 Okay, now you're into that trafficking, like you're in that coercion territory.

01:35:11.000 Happens a lot more than you think, actually.

01:35:15.000 Yeah.

01:35:17.000 The switch up happens pretty quickly too.

01:35:19.000 In the blink of an eye, and especially when you're scared, it's hard to just walk away.

01:35:23.000 It's interesting that that view is more conservative.

01:35:28.000 The leftist progressive view tends to be that sex work is just work, and who cares? 0.98

01:35:33.000 Unless and until you advocate for that to be applied to the labor market, and then all of a sudden the 50-year-old fat slob has the right to incorporate in his smoothie-making position sexual gratification. 0.98

01:35:46.000 Well, it's just work! 0.80

01:35:47.000 That was kind of my point, like, if you think it is just work, and I don't, then why couldn't an employer say, job description for store clerk? 0.99

01:35:54.000 Ringing up the cheeseburgers, handing out the bags, and giving blowjobs. 0.96

01:35:59.000 Speaking of conservative, folks should go to my Twitter account and check out my statement. 0.94

01:36:05.000 My statement's probably the most savage thing you'll read this year, directed at the right.

01:36:10.000 Well, all right.

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01:36:43.000 Long story short, protect the family, individual responsibility, freedoms, molan labe, things like that.

01:36:49.000 Let's read.

01:36:50.000 The Great Treasure says, if you want to be traditional men, women need to be traditional also.

01:36:57.000 I think that there's a...

01:37:01.000 I saw that gender bell curve where they saw it's bimodal, like there's some overlap in the middle.

01:37:04.000 And that's how I feel.

01:37:06.000 I am totally fine with women having jobs. 1.00

01:37:08.000 I'm totally fine with men being stay-home dads.

01:37:11.000 But I think that it's like, we don't want the absolutes.

01:37:14.000 We don't want a complete inversion where men stop working and become effeminate and women become overly masculine because that destabilizes.

01:37:20.000 We want people to be free.

01:37:22.000 So not as rigid as things were a hundred years ago, but we still do want to recognize, in my opinion, the differences between males and females, masculinity and femininity.

01:37:30.000 To a great degree.

01:37:32.000 Do I still get to keep my hair short?

01:37:34.000 That's the question.

01:37:35.000 Do I get to keep my hair short?

01:37:37.000 Of course.

01:37:37.000 All right, here we go.

01:37:38.000 We're going to get into the contentious nature of those who... Some love tape, some hate tape.

01:37:44.000 David Robinson says, Tim defending Andrew Tate just because Tate sounds like Luke on certain topics is very tribal.

01:37:50.000 Just because the system doesn't like you doesn't mean you're good.

01:37:52.000 Eliza, you are stronger than most alphas like Tate.

01:37:55.000 I am not here to defend or condemn Andrew Tate.

01:37:59.000 I've not seen evidence other than accusations.

01:38:02.000 That, there you go, right?

01:38:05.000 So I don't know what else I'm supposed to say.

01:38:07.000 It's possible that they smeared him like they smeared Julian Assange.

01:38:11.000 It's also possible that when he talked on podcasts about having women fly out to perform on cams, there was something darker there.

01:38:16.000 You should read my statement, Tim.

01:38:17.000 You should read my statement because you haven't had that same energy about the Epstein.

01:38:22.000 Epstein is like, oh, all co-conspirators, all co-conspirators should be held accountable.

01:38:27.000 But now it's like, oh, let's pause, let's wait.

01:38:30.000 But what do you mean?

01:38:31.000 Like with Epstein, we had transcripts released.

01:38:34.000 There's more stuff being released.

01:38:36.000 Why don't you look into it and then you make a decision.

01:38:40.000 I've seen videos of Andrew Tate.

01:38:41.000 Yeah.

01:38:42.000 It's been a month.

01:38:44.000 It's been three weeks.

01:38:46.000 The Epstein stuff's been a few years.

01:38:49.000 11, 13?

01:38:49.000 30 years.

01:38:55.000 And look, the circumstantial evidence, along with the hard evidence when it comes to Epstein, when it comes to the outright admissions of some of the people associated with him, is very, very different from it's been three weeks and Andrew Tate just got arrested.

01:39:09.000 You know what I mean?

01:39:10.000 OK, so we'll see.

01:39:11.000 We'll see if the energy stays the same.

01:39:13.000 Yeah, I mean, I've outright said there's videos of Andrew Tate saying he had women working for him just because they loved him, then he had women working for him because they wanted money, and then she threw up in his apartment, he said, I'm not gonna pay you, so she goes to the cops claiming he hit her.

01:39:26.000 Like, there's a lot to the things he said if you've seen these videos.

01:39:29.000 And the way the left has described it is, there's like an hour's worth of him admitting to committing crimes. 0.97

01:39:36.000 And it's like, yeah, there's an hour's worth of him admitting to being kind of like a dick in a lot of ways. 0.98

01:39:42.000 But it's been three weeks. 0.97

01:39:44.000 So I'm not from the left.

01:39:46.000 Oh, I know.

01:39:47.000 I'm saying that's what they were posting.

01:39:49.000 And I've also advocated for Julian Assange.

01:39:50.000 I stood in front of the DOJ for the Assange rally in October and spoke.

01:39:55.000 I was a speaker at the Assange rally.

01:39:57.000 So it's not like I'm just go down every rabbit hole that somebody's been accused and do that deal.

01:40:03.000 But I think this is worth looking at.

01:40:08.000 AceBlackstar says, unlike Epstein, Andrew doesn't have his fingers in the government of many countries to cover up for Epstein, so I will not believe or even support you until he's proven guilty.

01:40:17.000 Stop calling him an abuser.

01:40:19.000 It goes both ways.

01:40:20.000 We're actually getting a decent debate here.

01:40:22.000 I appreciate it, you guys.

01:40:23.000 Like, you don't gotta agree with me, but I appreciate you guys chatting.

01:40:28.000 Yeah, look at that.

01:40:28.000 22,055.

01:40:28.000 Smash the like button right there.

01:40:29.000 It's 53 and 47 for 22,000 votes.

01:40:30.000 It's a lot.

01:40:34.000 I mean, it's usually like two-thirds, so it's skewing slightly towards, I have not smashed the like button.

01:40:39.000 But 84% said they did not believe Andrew Tate was guilty.

01:40:44.000 And that's not just saying they think he's innocent, it's that many people are saying,

01:40:48.000 show me the evidence.

01:40:49.000 Right?

01:40:50.000 There's, there's, there's, there's, there's,

01:40:52.000 there's a lot with Epstein.

01:40:54.000 There's a lot with Epstein.

01:40:55.000 We'll give it a little time.

01:40:56.000 Absolutely.

01:40:57.000 And like I said earlier, if he's, if he actually did these things,

01:41:00.000 then he needs to be locked up.

01:41:01.000 Yeah.

01:41:02.000 I hope I'm wrong every single time.

01:41:04.000 Like we were saying before, I hope I'm wrong every single time.

01:41:06.000 Sorry, Luke, go ahead.

01:41:07.000 No, no, and I think the media narrative also matters here because a lot of the times the media was running protection for Epstein.

01:41:13.000 They were.

01:41:14.000 Here, they're like running about pizza box stories, they're running fake news, they're discrediting themselves based on stuff.

01:41:21.000 So this is why automatically people jump to this.

01:41:22.000 Okay, but I'm not from the media.

01:41:24.000 I've also been smeared by the media in the last month.

01:41:27.000 They hate me, the left doesn't like I'm just explaining some of the thinking of what's going on.

01:41:31.000 And I understand that's why I'm here as a peaceful, maybe middle person to be like, hey, folks, I'm from your, I don't want to say side, but you folks rock with me, you know, I'm the real deal.

01:41:42.000 So if I'm saying, let's take a deeper look, hopefully that carries a little bit more weight with people that might have normally been a little bit more skeptical.

01:41:52.000 The general idea, I think, Luke, it's a real good example, the pizza box story.

01:41:56.000 Was completely false.

01:41:56.000 Yes.

01:41:57.000 False.

01:41:58.000 And insane.

01:42:00.000 And so right away, the whole narrative has launched off of a false premise.

01:42:04.000 It's just, let me read this right here.

01:42:05.000 Yeah.

01:42:06.000 Reese Mendocino says, I'm in no way with Andrew Tate, but we need to recognize that most of the boys who flock to him are a result of boys and men who are hurting from a collapsing culture and awful dating market.

01:42:16.000 We need to do better for them.

01:42:17.000 Well put.

01:42:18.000 Yeah.

01:42:20.000 Well put.

01:42:20.000 Well said.

01:42:22.000 Yep, yep.

01:42:23.000 All right.

01:42:24.000 Charlie Harris says, what crimes has Tate been formally charged with?

01:42:27.000 It's a matter of public record, so there's no reason not to say it over the air.

01:42:30.000 I don't think he's been publicly charged with anything.

01:42:32.000 He's being investigated for being a lover boy, rape, and money laundering.

01:42:39.000 That's what we know.

01:42:40.000 He's being investigated.

01:42:41.000 The whole false narrative around the pizza box thing was so annoying because he has a compound in Romania. 0.60

01:42:46.000 They don't need to know he's there.

01:42:47.000 They know he's there and he has a massive compound.

01:42:49.000 But the fake news also discredits the legitimacy of this story.

01:42:53.000 So the corporate media, just by running fake news, does so much injustice to all of this.

01:42:59.000 Well, yeah, they've done the same thing to me.

01:43:02.000 They did the same thing to me with Elon Musk.

01:43:04.000 They did the same thing to Tim.

01:43:05.000 They've done it to you.

01:43:07.000 They've done it to all of us. 1.00

01:43:09.000 And it sucks. 0.97

01:43:11.000 And they did it to Brett Kavanaugh, if you remember what happened to him. 0.98

01:43:13.000 I don't know if you remember that story or your response to how that was going down.

01:43:18.000 I mean, I believe in due process.

01:43:18.000 Sure.

01:43:21.000 I've said that since the beginning.

01:43:24.000 If folks want to put in due process into my Twitter search bar, I say, I believe the survivors that I serve, and I explain to every survivor that I serve, due process.

01:43:33.000 You can't just believe every single story.

01:43:35.000 So I understand folks being skeptical.

01:43:37.000 Sorry, go ahead.

01:43:37.000 That's cool.

01:43:39.000 Raymond G. Stanley Jr., in reference to the Philadelphia train story, says, dropkick him, Tim, dropkick him. 0.92

01:43:45.000 I said I would dropkick the dude. 0.95

01:43:48.000 If I saw a guy jumping on a woman, I would, I'd jump on him. 1.00

01:43:52.000 Like, if he was standing up, I would run up and dropkick.

01:43:54.000 And I, like, I can't, I don't know, man.

01:43:57.000 I've had a lot of people Everybody seems to be of this mindset that everyone else is gonna be like them, and so they'll say things like, you wouldn't do that, you wouldn't do that, don't project your views onto me.

01:44:11.000 There's a video, I went on Tucker because of this, because Antifa got in my face and started swinging at me, and I clenched my teeth tight in my abs and I leaned forward.

01:44:19.000 You can watch me do it.

01:44:21.000 I get angry, especially when these people get in my face.

01:44:25.000 And I just, I don't know, that's the kind of person I am.

01:44:27.000 And I think too, I don't know. 0.94

01:44:29.000 You get screwed with enough in places like the south side of Chicago or traveling around the world where, trust me when I say, I would drop kick the guy. 0.91

01:44:36.000 I don't even want to say probably. 0.96

01:44:38.000 I'd probably just lose it.

01:44:39.000 I'd probably black out and be like, I don't even remember what happened.

01:44:42.000 I just went on the guy.

01:44:44.000 I know this is totally unrelated, but I just want to say something.

01:44:46.000 I just want to let everybody know I'm working on this case for free.

01:44:49.000 I serve all the survivors that I serve, the public survivors, for free.

01:44:52.000 I get no money from this.

01:44:54.000 Nobody's paying me to be here.

01:44:55.000 Nobody's paying me to say anything.

01:44:56.000 I got no money from the Twitter.

01:44:58.000 Advocating for the survivors of Twitter, I did all that work for free.

01:45:02.000 Everything I do, I do for free and usually lose money.

01:45:05.000 So I just want to say that because I know people are going to say a thing like I'm in this for money.

01:45:09.000 I'm literally not in this for money and I actually lose money doing this work.

01:45:13.000 Giovanni Licea says, can you elaborate on what the machine is?

01:45:17.000 The establishment.

01:45:18.000 It's a reference to the, like, you know, rage against the machine.

01:45:21.000 Of course, they rage on behalf of the machine these days.

01:45:23.000 But the machine is the establishment, the control.

01:45:27.000 It is... You want to talk about the cathedral?

01:45:29.000 The cathedral.

01:45:31.000 The cathedral, yeah, but a lot of people don't.

01:45:33.000 Yes, of course, the cathedral, darling.

01:45:35.000 Yes, of course.

01:45:36.000 No, the cathedral is going to be like your school system.

01:45:40.000 Starts at the school by, what would you call it, Luke?

01:45:44.000 Like, not brainwashing, but sort of indoctrinating the young children.

01:45:48.000 Then it goes up through the government schools to the universities.

01:45:52.000 Then it goes to corporate journalism and then to the government.

01:45:55.000 Good?

01:45:56.000 Cathedral?

01:45:57.000 Yeah.

01:45:57.000 Sort of, but not well.

01:46:00.000 Basically the machine is just like, imagine this giant factory where it- Hollywood and big tech in there too.

01:46:05.000 Controls production, it controls what you're allowed to say, it's where all the establishment people are, it's robotic, it's duplicitous, it's unempathetic.

01:46:15.000 And the opposite of that is freedom.

01:46:17.000 Yes.

01:46:18.000 So imagine there's a big factory.

01:46:21.000 Inside, you wear a jumpsuit.

01:46:22.000 You do as you're told, but there's food.

01:46:24.000 And you keep your mouth shut.

01:46:27.000 You're not allowed to talk about certain ideas.

01:46:29.000 You do your job.

01:46:30.000 And then outside in the wilderness is freedom where, figure it out.

01:46:35.000 That's it.

01:46:36.000 I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery.

01:46:40.000 Every time.

01:46:41.000 The backlash sets.

01:46:42.000 Every time.

01:46:43.000 Obsessed.

01:46:44.000 I'm actually obsessed with that.

01:46:46.000 Hey, I think it's the best way forward.

01:46:48.000 It gives me life.

01:46:49.000 Let's read this one.

01:46:50.000 The backlight says, In 1993, I very publicly opposed

01:46:52.000 a progressive assault on men, masculinity, marriage, and family.

01:46:55.000 The Seattle Times almost destroyed me.

01:46:57.000 Men turned to MGTOW to strike.

01:46:59.000 Atlas Shrugged Style.

01:47:00.000 MGTOW is men going their own way.

01:47:03.000 But I'm not going to pretend to know everything about what MGTOW is,

01:47:07.000 but correct me if I'm wrong.

01:47:09.000 My understanding is it's like men just living solitary lives 0.98

01:47:11.000 and just going their own way and either like being alone

01:47:14.000 or just avoiding relationships and stuff.

01:47:16.000 I don't know about MGTOW.

01:47:18.000 I think one of the problems is society, it's created this very hard imbalance in the relationship between men and women, and I feel like a lot of it's on purpose, Malthusianism or whatever.

01:47:30.000 This idea that You know what, I'll put it this way.

01:47:34.000 Abortion, child castration, you know, hormones in the water, all of these things result in lower population.

01:47:43.000 Is that on purpose?

01:47:44.000 Up for you to decide.

01:47:45.000 I think it's just very interesting that there's powerful, prominent elites that are going around saying we gotta reduce population, and then all of these ails of society which are doing just that.

01:47:56.000 Let's grab some more Super Chats.

01:48:01.000 What do we got here?

01:48:02.000 Mundo Mars says, I used to be pro-abort because I thought people have common sense.

01:48:07.000 But when I heard a girl say that her birth control is abortion, I lost all hopes in humanity.

01:48:11.000 By the way, may I ask support for my YouTube channel, Mundo Mars.

01:48:14.000 Keep up the good work.

01:48:15.000 Appreciate the super chat.

01:48:18.000 All right.

01:48:20.000 What was that?

01:48:23.000 Super chat.

01:48:24.000 Derpington says, the comment that I think Ian said, even the cops don't protect you.

01:48:29.000 Yeah, they're literally not required to.

01:48:30.000 Anarcho-tyranny in action, maybe.

01:48:32.000 That was Luke who said the cops don't protect you, right?

01:48:34.000 Yeah.

01:48:35.000 There's many documented cases, including the Joe Lizito story, which is absolutely crazy.

01:48:39.000 He's a friend of mine.

01:48:40.000 Look up We Are Change Joe Lizito.

01:48:42.000 Be prepared to be mind blown.

01:48:44.000 I was thinking Uvalde.

01:48:46.000 Oh, yeah.

01:48:46.000 Parkland.

01:48:47.000 Yeah.

01:48:51.000 All right.

01:48:52.000 Part-time Doge says, guys, John Bolton thinks he would be a viable 24 candidate.

01:48:57.000 He also may have announced on a British show, a little confused if he did or didn't.

01:49:01.000 He did.

01:49:02.000 He's going to get negative votes, like somehow.

01:49:05.000 It's just like, negative three.

01:49:07.000 Or all the suicidal people who want World War Three are going to vote for him.

01:49:11.000 And then he's probably going to become president of the United States.

01:49:13.000 So the long term game plan is to make everyone depressed so they're suicidal.

01:49:17.000 Then they're all gonna vote for John Bolton.

01:49:19.000 John Bolton's gonna kill us by starting World War 3. 0.72

01:49:21.000 So. 0.90

01:49:21.000 Wow. 0.90

01:49:22.000 Yeah.

01:49:23.000 It's like, debunk.

01:49:23.000 You know what we should do?

01:49:24.000 That sounds horrible.

01:49:25.000 I got it.

01:49:25.000 I got an idea.

01:49:26.000 That sounds horrible.

01:49:27.000 Guys.

01:49:27.000 Yo.

01:49:28.000 Okay.

01:49:28.000 Hear me out.

01:49:29.000 You guys have seen Twilight Zone, right?

01:49:31.000 Yes.

01:49:31.000 Remember the one with the guy with the glasses and the books?

01:49:36.000 Okay, here's what happens.

01:49:37.000 John Bolton becomes president, declares war.

01:49:41.000 He's riding in the bomber, flying over Iran, and they just bomb everything, and then there's just explosions all over the planet. 0.99

01:49:47.000 Then he's walking through the rubble of Tehran, and then he smiles, and he goes, well.

01:49:53.000 And then he leans down to pick up, you know, a welcome to Tehran sign, and his glasses fall up and shatter.

01:49:59.000 And then he goes, no!

01:50:00.000 It was time now.

01:50:01.000 You guys know that one, right?

01:50:03.000 You've never seen that one?

01:50:05.000 Oh, come on. 0.87

01:50:06.000 The world ends and this guy just wants to read books.

01:50:09.000 And then when he reaches down to pick up a book, his glasses fall off and break and now he can't read books.

01:50:12.000 And it's like the apocalypse.

01:50:14.000 So like John Bolton in the rubble of Iran and the world is destroyed.

01:50:17.000 It was time now.

01:50:19.000 Sorry.

01:50:20.000 Who would John Bolton run with?

01:50:21.000 Who runs on that ticket?

01:50:22.000 Satan.

01:50:26.000 So like Jeffrey Dahmer.

01:50:27.000 Okay.

01:50:28.000 Jeffrey Dahmer.

01:50:29.000 No, no, no.

01:50:29.000 But in all seriousness, like who would run a Bolton ticket?

01:50:33.000 Is it a Bush?

01:50:33.000 Ghislaine Maxwell.

01:50:36.000 Crenshaw.

01:50:37.000 I think that's what he said.

01:50:39.000 Yeah.

01:50:40.000 Crenshaw.

01:50:40.000 Bolton Crenshaw.

01:50:41.000 Liz Cheney.

01:50:45.000 Bolton-less Cheney.

01:50:45.000 Yeah, I think you're right.

01:50:46.000 I think Cheney, actually.

01:50:47.000 Yeah, Bolton-less Cheney 24.

01:50:49.000 They lose votes.

01:50:50.000 What a bumper sticker. 0.99

01:50:52.000 Let's bomb the Middle East again. 1.00

01:50:53.000 Like, we looked in the ballot box, and not only were there no ballots in there, but it was a void, a rip in the time-space continuum.

01:51:00.000 It's spitting out ballots for us.

01:51:01.000 I don't know how that's happening.

01:51:03.000 Ballots are coming out of the box.

01:51:06.000 Where are we at?

01:51:07.000 Christian Wolf says, one, I'd make Frank Castle look like a Boy Scout.

01:51:10.000 Woo! 0.99

01:51:11.000 That's in reference to the one, if you would sacrifice yourself to save the woman.

01:51:17.000 Frank Castle, if you don't know, is the Punisher.

01:51:19.000 Yeah.

01:51:19.000 I think the Punisher, I love the Punisher stories.

01:51:22.000 I mean, it's a fantasy, but let's be real.

01:51:25.000 But man, there's something satisfying about justice.

01:51:29.000 Have you guys ever seen Law Abiding Citizen?

01:51:32.000 Nope. 0.99

01:51:34.000 Gerard Butler, he's at home when some burglars break into his house, crack him over the head, rape his wife, kill, I think they kill his wife and daughter, and then he lives. 0.99

01:51:47.000 And then, let's just say he gets revenge on everyone. 0.88

01:51:51.000 Unfortunately, they spiked the ending.

01:51:56.000 I'll spoil the movie because it's old, but apparently the ending was supposed to be like, So years later, he tracks down the guy and he vivisects him and films it and slowly, slowly ends this man.

01:52:08.000 It's insane.

01:52:09.000 He intentionally gets arrested because he planned this whole thing and then he murders his cellmate to get put into the special cell that he already tunneled through so he can freely move about committing crimes and going after the prosecutors, going after the system that refused to get justice.

01:52:24.000 They cut a deal with these guys and then he gets mad.

01:52:27.000 And apparently the ending was supposed to be him destroying the city and getting revenge, but the other guy, what was his name?

01:52:35.000 Jamie Foxx, I guess, didn't want- that's a bad ending, it's a bad guy winning, so he ultimately loses in the end and it's not as satisfying.

01:52:41.000 Because there's something just very Punisher-esque about him being like, my family was killed and the system let these guys go free.

01:52:48.000 So I- it's a good movie.

01:52:50.000 You know, it's good.

01:52:51.000 Darius Harvey says, I think the believe all women narrative really hurt true abused victims.

01:52:56.000 No one wants to stick their neck out anymore.

01:52:59.000 I agree.

01:52:59.000 I mean, Christine Blasey Ford, right?

01:53:02.000 But how do we... She lied about everything.

01:53:05.000 Okay.

01:53:05.000 I believe.

01:53:06.000 So how do we listen to some folks that maybe aren't, I don't know, credible, but, and then like, you can't, Discredit all survivors just because or individuals that step forward are accusers.

01:53:21.000 You can't discredit everyone because of a few bad experiences.

01:53:25.000 I mean, we've been saying the same raggedy... There's no discredit.

01:53:29.000 I agree, but you can't be extreme.

01:53:30.000 You can't also believe everyone at the same time.

01:53:32.000 And I agree, but I believe the survivors I serve and I believe in due process.

01:53:37.000 But you folks aren't advocates.

01:53:40.000 If you folks were advocates, you would also believe the survivors you serve.

01:53:44.000 Do you go into any of these situations with skepticism first?

01:53:47.000 Do you have to say no to certain people when they come to you?

01:53:50.000 I don't have room to be everyone's advocate, especially everyone that asks.

01:53:56.000 There are some cases that I'm probably better suited to serve.

01:54:01.000 For instance, this case, because I understand now what it's like to have my life destroyed by the corporate press, by the public, by the bot farm that's attacking.

01:54:12.000 I understand the left-right dynamic.

01:54:14.000 That's why I'm well suited to be an advocate in this way.

01:54:17.000 Yeah.

01:54:18.000 Here in this case.

01:54:19.000 I'm worried because I find myself doing it all the time, too.

01:54:21.000 I lead with skepticism now.

01:54:22.000 With almost everything.

01:54:23.000 But how do we fix that?

01:54:23.000 Which is an unhealthy place.

01:54:25.000 I think transparency.

01:54:26.000 Okay, transparency.

01:54:27.000 But how much does a survivor have to give for people to think?

01:54:30.000 To gain trust of people, I would say as much as possible, unfortunately.

01:54:33.000 Because people have so much skepticism.

01:54:35.000 If a dude came to me and said that some guy robbed him, help me, I'd say, okay.

01:54:40.000 I'd call the police and say, I got a guy here who's been robbed.

01:54:43.000 Am I going to believe 100% that he's telling the truth?

01:54:46.000 It's like, no, but we'll pursue the allegations because that's fighting justice.

01:54:51.000 But why is the first gut instinct for people to go online and talk trash?

01:54:56.000 What do you mean? 0.95

01:54:57.000 It probably depends on the way they're talking trash, because there's trolls who just talk trash, and there's other people who are also... But they troll everything. 0.96

01:55:05.000 They troll everything.

01:55:05.000 That's true.

01:55:06.000 That's true.

01:55:07.000 It makes it really difficult for survivors to step forward, and I'm always trying to think of how we can make that a little bit easier.

01:55:12.000 I don't know if you can.

01:55:15.000 Okay.

01:55:16.000 Yeah, without infringing on free speech.

01:55:17.000 Yeah, you're right.

01:55:21.000 We protect the innocent.

01:55:23.000 And protecting the innocent means... Let's talk about Mattress Girl. 0.99

01:55:27.000 Remember Mattress Girl?

01:55:29.000 She was the abuser. 0.99

01:55:32.000 And she got everything handed to her. 0.94

01:55:35.000 Society abused the guy that she abused. 0.99

01:55:38.000 The victim was beaten down by the machine.

01:55:41.000 I don't know that case.

01:55:43.000 I can't speak on it.

01:55:44.000 Woman walks around with a mattress around Columbia, was it Columbia I think? 1.00

01:55:48.000 Claiming that she was raped.

01:55:49.000 It turns out she was begging the guy to be with her and the guy didn't want to be with her.

01:55:54.000 Based on messages that got released in a lawsuit.

01:55:57.000 The school threw him under the bus.

01:55:59.000 His life was, I don't know if it was destroyed, but severely.

01:56:02.000 He got kicked out of school, I think.

01:56:03.000 Yeah, expelled.

01:56:04.000 And then she got the cover of magazines.

01:56:07.000 The machine propped her up and protected her, and she was the abuser.

01:56:11.000 Christine Blasey Ford.

01:56:13.000 She claimed that she was too scared to fly, and then they asked her in the hearing, like, didn't you fly at this point?

01:56:17.000 And did you fly here?

01:56:17.000 She goes, yes.

01:56:18.000 Yes.

01:56:19.000 And she goes, I'm so scared because 35 years ago I was told that I have two doors on my house.

01:56:23.000 And then it was like, that's because she's Airbnb-ing another portion of her house.

01:56:27.000 Like this woman went in front of the country and then you had, what was her name, Swetnick?

01:56:31.000 Where she claimed that Brett Kavanaugh was part of gang-rape college parties where they would line up outside the door and with kidnapped women who were drugged.

01:56:41.000 And so the issue is...

01:56:44.000 You come out and you make an accusation, I say, we do our preliminary investigation, but we're not here.

01:56:49.000 If Luke came to me and said Shane punched him in the face, it's like, well, why would I instantly believe something bad about Shane?

01:56:54.000 But Tim, people don't- I wouldn't snitch.

01:56:57.000 People don't believe I'm a survivor and I've never said anything about whom, because I'm not legally able to.

01:57:08.000 Michael Tracy recently did a thread about this.

01:57:11.000 Well, that was, of course I saw.

01:57:14.000 And I know why that was.

01:57:16.000 I was really embarrassed for him because it wasn't factual.

01:57:19.000 I wish he'd done a better job for him.

01:57:21.000 Well, here's the thing I would say for you in that regard is, you've come out, talked about your experiences, advocated to help people, and you've not actually targeted another person.

01:57:33.000 I think you've actually kept that private.

01:57:35.000 Because I'm not legally able to speak about it, that's why.

01:57:38.000 And there's a detriment there.

01:57:39.000 That's a multiple journalist, but it's kind of like, okay, but well, what I have done is I had the organization

01:57:47.000 that saved my life on Twitter Spaces, speaking about what that process was like saving my life,

01:57:55.000 going through a play-by-play, but the organization now has come out and said that.

01:57:58.000 I've given a really decent timeline of everything that I did with that.

01:58:03.000 The safe house that I went to, I talked about the safe, gave the name of the safe house that I went to.

01:58:07.000 So the organization that saved my life was Eve's Angels in Chicago.

01:58:11.000 They had multiple locations at the time.

01:58:14.000 Annie D is on Twitter.

01:58:15.000 And I went to, you know, Refuge for Women in Kentucky.

01:58:20.000 You don't go, you know, that was the safe house that I went to, that was where they sent me.

01:58:23.000 So why would you come out and say all that?

01:58:26.000 And I understand skepticism, that's fine, but what, what, you have to look at incentive.

01:58:30.000 What would the incentive be for me to come out and say that I'm a survivor, take no money for any of it, I'm not selling anything, but there's no incentive.

01:58:40.000 Okay, sure.

01:58:41.000 So let's say, hypothetically, it is made up.

01:58:43.000 What's my biggest win so far in public?

01:58:45.000 Getting Twitter to address child sexual abuse material and make it a top priority?

01:58:49.000 Well, that's why I'm saying, we'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

01:58:52.000 Where's the win there?

01:58:53.000 What's the big win or what would the big gain be?

01:58:57.000 I'm not asking an abuser for money.

01:58:59.000 I'm not asking people for money.

01:59:00.000 This is why, when it comes to your story, it's like, oh, the only thing you're doing is getting Twitter to fix the problem, and so there's no conflict.

01:59:07.000 I'm advocating for survivors.

01:59:08.000 When it comes to Andrew Tate, it's people know his show and have seen things they like from him, and then there's people they never heard of accusing him of doing something wrong.

01:59:16.000 So when it comes to choosing to believe or not believe, person A, I don't care if it's a man or woman, person A comes to me, person B comes to me, person A says person B does bad thing.

01:59:24.000 I say, well, I don't know that, I've not seen it.

01:59:26.000 You want me to immediately join in your accusation against person B. Now that's not easy to do.

01:59:32.000 What we do for the legal system is we say, we heard you, let's do our preliminary inquiry to see if there's a preponderance of evidence.

01:59:39.000 Upon discovery of one, we will then move for an investigation.

01:59:42.000 Upon discovery of evidence, we will file for an indictment, and then we'll try to prove to a jury of our peers this person did the things they were accused of doing.

01:59:48.000 Sure, no one really said that about Maxwell.

01:59:50.000 No one said that about the Epstein co-conspirators.

01:59:52.000 I get what you're saying, because I agree with you.

01:59:53.000 But what do you mean?

01:59:55.000 Like, with the Epstein stuff, we've gotten to the hard evidence over a decade phase, and people demanded accountability, and it went to indictment, and then Epstein died, and then it went to indictment.

02:00:04.000 What evidence have you seen in the Epstein case that you felt, in your mind... Photos of Andrew Tate with Ghislaine Maxwell and Virginia Giuffre, and then her saying yes because he did these things.

02:00:14.000 Not Andrew Tate.

02:00:14.000 No, no, no, not Tate.

02:00:16.000 Prince Andrew.

02:00:17.000 I was like, my brain just fried!

02:00:19.000 It's too late and we're getting the Andrews mixed up.

02:00:21.000 I apologize.

02:00:23.000 Prince Andrew.

02:00:23.000 Sorry.

02:00:24.000 There's a lot of testimony, especially how endowed Epstein was.

02:00:28.000 I gotta eat that one.

02:00:29.000 Oof.

02:00:30.000 My brain was in the process of... I was about to not stop you.

02:00:33.000 I was about to be like, let me play this out.

02:00:35.000 A picture of Prince Andrew with Virginia Giuffre and Maxwell.

02:00:41.000 as well as flight logs with all these people and it's been it's been ten years and there's been look yeah the evidence was overwhelming.

02:00:49.000 If you feel like some evidence comes out we'll do another conversation and then we'll chop it up then.

02:00:55.000 Witness testimony is evidence but not proof.

02:00:58.000 And so, that's why I said if Andrew Tate did these things, he should be held accountable.

02:01:03.000 When it comes to Epstein, we're at the point where we wanted a legitimate investigation, but we knew the FBI was covering it up.

02:01:09.000 We knew that, what was it, Luke, they had documents, they had folders and binders and video information and things like that, that were labeled, and they never released.

02:01:15.000 Photos, videos, all of that.

02:01:17.000 Cassette tapes, surveillance tapes, all of that.

02:01:18.000 It's a big story.

02:01:19.000 One of the survivors, Sarah, is still trying to get the videos, like, This is still in the process.

02:01:23.000 Epstein isn't done yet, folks.

02:01:25.000 I said that once already tonight.

02:01:26.000 The Epstein-Maxwell case is never done until it's done.

02:01:30.000 All right, we should grab some more Super Chats because I gotta grab at least a few more and we're gonna go a little bit late.

02:01:30.000 It's not done.

02:01:37.000 Tav Nazian says, armed women make fewer rapists. 1.00

02:01:40.000 Fewer rapists reduce the need for armed women. 0.51

02:01:43.000 Unarmed women create more rapists. 1.00

02:01:44.000 More rapists create armed women. 0.99

02:01:46.000 There you go. 0.97

02:01:50.000 Richard L says clearly the machine attacked Tate.

02:01:55.000 For what?

02:01:58.000 For what would they be attacking him for?

02:02:00.000 He's not saying anything that new.

02:02:02.000 Why was he banned from all these platforms?

02:02:04.000 I'm not at liberty to discuss that now, but further you will understand later.

02:02:08.000 I mean, that's not good enough for me.

02:02:10.000 Okay, well, let's put it this way.

02:02:11.000 Go read every platform's terms of service.

02:02:14.000 You are not allowed to use Instagram or any other platform for human trafficking, child sexual abuse material,

02:02:23.000 child sexual exploitation, or to facilitate any crime around those things.

02:02:27.000 It's FOSTA, SESTA, signed in 2018.

02:02:30.000 All the platforms know this.

02:02:31.000 And he was doing that.

02:02:32.000 I'm not saying he did that.

02:02:33.000 I'm saying, do you think maybe there was another reason?

02:02:37.000 That he was doing it?

02:02:39.000 Has an ex-playmate come out and talked about her experience?

02:02:42.000 Yes, she has.

02:02:43.000 You can pull up the article of being contacted.

02:02:45.000 So I'm just saying, there might be more here that meets the eye, so why don't we chill on the attacked by the... The only people that truly get attacked by the machine are going to be like Julian Assange and Edward Snowden and folks like that that are actually doing the thing.

02:02:59.000 They went after Jordan Peterson.

02:03:01.000 The machine?

02:03:02.000 Yeah, they called him a Nazi.

02:03:03.000 They tried getting him fired.

02:03:04.000 Now they're trying to put him through... The corporate press?

02:03:06.000 Yes, yes, yes.

02:03:07.000 Of course they did.

02:03:08.000 And now his university is forcing him to go through re-education.

02:03:10.000 I understand, but there's a difference between like... Take away his medical license.

02:03:12.000 Maybe I'm not understanding the machine because this isn't language that I use.

02:03:15.000 Are you talking... So yes, people are attacked by the corporate press.

02:03:18.000 I have also, this month, been attacked by the corporate press.

02:03:21.000 And now they're trying to take his medical license away from him.

02:03:24.000 Yes, they are.

02:03:25.000 And I said something about that.

02:03:26.000 And why?

02:03:28.000 For what reason are they doing these things?

02:03:30.000 Wrong think.

02:03:30.000 Orwellian stuff.

02:03:31.000 Is it not possible it's the same thing with Andrew Tate?

02:03:33.000 Sure.

02:03:34.000 It could be.

02:03:35.000 So I'm not going to defend the machine until we can see clear evidence.

02:03:39.000 So when we say, well, maybe he got banned because he was doing these awful things, I'm like, no, no, no, no, no, no.

02:03:44.000 Okay.

02:03:44.000 Until you come out and say like, look at this message from Instagram, that's what got him banned.

02:03:48.000 I'm going to be like, I could also come out and be like, he was facilitating illegal recipes.

02:03:53.000 He was advocating for smuggling.

02:03:55.000 I could make up a million reasons as to why he may have gotten banned.

02:03:58.000 And I understand that.

02:03:59.000 And I don't mind skepticism.

02:04:00.000 That's fine.

02:04:02.000 It's not even necessarily about skepticism.

02:04:03.000 It's about like, yo, if this guy did it, please prove it to me so we can get him locked up.

02:04:06.000 Yes.

02:04:07.000 And if it's not the case, then... That's the right stance.

02:04:10.000 I think that that's a correct stance.

02:04:11.000 I think that that's good.

02:04:14.000 It's funny because I thought I would come here and talk about Elon Musk and Twitter the entire time and literally we did not talk about it.

02:04:19.000 We did a little bit.

02:04:20.000 We did.

02:04:20.000 Yeah, we did for like 26 minutes, I think.

02:04:22.000 No, you're good.

02:04:23.000 I have a timer.

02:04:24.000 In my mind, I was like preparing the whole day for that.

02:04:26.000 Now it's like TateFest.

02:04:29.000 Well, I mean, you had big news.

02:04:30.000 It's all good.

02:04:32.000 You know, I never have this type of stuff planned fully and I just go with the flow.

02:04:32.000 It's all good.

02:04:36.000 Yeah, like, the Epstein stuff, everybody thought was nonsense for a long time.

02:04:41.000 Yeah, forever. 0.79

02:04:43.000 And then you had the Miami Herald, you had Mike Cernovich, and you had Project Veritas basically do this triple hit, and then all of a sudden it just damn broke. 0.67

02:04:51.000 Yes.

02:04:52.000 So, my concern is, when we've seen things like Blasey Ford, I should say Kavanaugh, and Mattress Girl, and a bunch of other stories, I mean, even Lena Dunham, didn't she accuse the DJ?

02:05:04.000 Yep.

02:05:05.000 She falsely accused the DJ.

02:05:06.000 And to individuals out there that have been falsely accused, I want you to know I love you too.

02:05:11.000 I think that that's heinous.

02:05:12.000 I think it's horrible.

02:05:14.000 I have men in my life that are close, dear friends that have been falsely accused.

02:05:18.000 They have explained to me in great detail how it ruined their life.

02:05:22.000 And I don't take that lightly either.

02:05:25.000 Don't like either.

02:05:26.000 This one's critical.

02:05:27.000 TheRozRodriguez says, as much as I want to agree with, quote, awful guest, I am grateful TimCast brings in people that I don't 100% agree with, or us watching.

02:05:36.000 Good job.

02:05:37.000 More please.

02:05:38.000 I'm off, I guess.

02:05:39.000 Could be.

02:05:40.000 Let's talk about shade, clearly.

02:05:43.000 It's all shade.

02:05:44.000 There's big tape fans who are, they're very critical.

02:05:48.000 But then there's also people who are mad at me, and they're very defensive and supportive of you.

02:05:52.000 So it's split.

02:05:54.000 But I think it's a good conversation, whether it's for or against.

02:05:57.000 And Tim and I are cool, so everybody knows we're gonna be cool.

02:06:00.000 I've wanted to hug him ten times throughout this episode.

02:06:04.000 Well, this is what I'm saying, like, we gotta have, like, for the people who disagree and are angry about it, like, we need to have that conversation, you know what I mean?

02:06:10.000 Yes, let's talk.

02:06:11.000 And we've got your Super Chats, too, and like, we're having that conversation.

02:06:15.000 So, Angela McArdle says, Eliza, thank you for your advocacy work.

02:06:19.000 It takes courage to come forward and we desperately need more courageous people in today's culture.

02:06:23.000 I love Angela so much.

02:06:24.000 She's brave.

02:06:25.000 I need to stop watching.

02:06:26.000 YouTube says, I don't believe Eliza.

02:06:29.000 That's OK.

02:06:31.000 You and many people.

02:06:35.000 Let's see.

02:06:36.000 Captain Creativity says, Tim, I think you described absurdism, not nihilism.

02:06:40.000 I don't think I described absurdism.

02:06:42.000 Yeah, I think absurdism is a little different.

02:06:44.000 Yeah.

02:06:46.000 Where are we?

02:06:47.000 They probably overlap a little bit.

02:06:47.000 Let's grab one.

02:06:50.000 They're talking about Camus.

02:06:51.000 Philip R says, I'm a little behind, but the reason men cannot help abuse survivors is plain and simple. 0.94

02:06:56.000 Women victimized by men hate men after that and then usually go lesbian. 0.99

02:07:00.000 No joke. 0.94

02:07:01.000 I don't think that's true.

02:07:03.000 That's definitely not always true.

02:07:05.000 That's definitely not always true.

02:07:06.000 No.

02:07:07.000 I don't know.

02:07:09.000 It feels like a internet trope.

02:07:10.000 That's not real.

02:07:11.000 Yeah, there's something pushing an incel line.

02:07:14.000 I feel like that's not a... I'm not going to accuse you of being an incel or anything, but that's a little bit aggressive, a little bit ridiculous. 0.93

02:07:22.000 Daniel Domasik says, after what they did to Kavanaugh, I'm skeptical. 0.73

02:07:26.000 I mean, with Kevin, I was very skeptical.

02:07:26.000 Yeah.

02:07:29.000 I mean, he's a family guy.

02:07:30.000 He's religious.

02:07:30.000 They had investigated him before.

02:07:32.000 These accusations made no sense.

02:07:34.000 With Andrew Tate, he's got video clips of him talking about bringing out women to do cam work, and you're like, okay, well, let's take a look at this.

02:07:40.000 Let's see what this is all about.

02:07:41.000 I don't know about detaining him for 30 days.

02:07:43.000 It's like, they need to publicly release some evidence, because this is a high-profile case, you know what I mean?

02:07:49.000 My only ask is not that you have to believe 100%.

02:07:54.000 You don't have to believe 100%.

02:07:54.000 Just don't tear down survivors until we can figure out what's going on.

02:08:00.000 Maybe that's where I'm not communicating well.

02:08:03.000 I'm not asking you to believe me, believe everything everyone says, but can we just not tear down survivors and make it more difficult for other survivors, you know, minors, survivors of Epstein, like just imagine how needed it was to get those people off the street and committing those crimes.

02:08:19.000 Let's just not tear down survivors in the process or accusers if we don't like the word survivor Victim let's just not tear them down until we figure out what's going on if our goal is to protect the innocent then we want to approach any accusation with like balance between the individuals involved.

02:08:38.000 We don't want to insult the person making the accusation.

02:08:40.000 We don't want to insult the person accused.

02:08:41.000 We want to say, okay, I hear you.

02:08:43.000 Let's figure this out and figure out who's actually at fault.

02:08:45.000 Like who, or I should say not who's actually at fault, but is there a crime here?

02:08:49.000 Is there a slight?

02:08:50.000 And that's what the courts are for. 0.97

02:08:52.000 Yep.

02:08:53.000 All right.

02:08:53.000 Let's grab one more here.

02:08:55.000 What is this?

02:08:56.000 Chris says, Tim, I used to ascribe to your views of positive nihilism, but recently I became more fundamentally theistic because now I believe that man is not capable of creating meaning in a substantial way.

02:09:05.000 Get Jay Dyer on this subject.

02:09:08.000 He could represent the position well.

02:09:10.000 Very cool.

02:09:11.000 Ace Blackstar, we'll read one more.

02:09:13.000 Will you call for the arrest of the accusers if they are found to be lying and also pay every cent you stole due to your actions?

02:09:22.000 I think he's referring to the people who did.

02:09:24.000 I don't know about you, because you said you don't make money from it.

02:09:26.000 No.

02:09:26.000 But the people who, if they're found to be lying, should they pay restitution and should they be arrested?

02:09:31.000 Like accusers.

02:09:35.000 I believe that if someone makes a false accusation of domestic violence, sexual assault, trafficking, anything like that, I do believe that then it falls on the, then it falls on the, yes.

02:09:48.000 Arrested, charged, all that stuff.

02:09:50.000 Yes.

02:09:51.000 Agreed.

02:09:51.000 And paid restitution as well.

02:09:54.000 Yeah, absolutely.

02:09:54.000 Because I've talked to people whose lives have also been destroyed.

02:09:58.000 So I don't take false accusations lightly.

02:10:00.000 Right on.

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02:10:14.000 We've got a bunch of really awesome stuff on the way, so thank you all so much for hanging out on this Friday night.

02:10:18.000 And the debate was fantastic, so I do appreciate I appreciate when people come in and disagree.

02:10:23.000 We need it, you know, so I do like it.

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02:10:40.000 And coming soon, you, myself, Ian, and some other folks are going to be making an announcement about an event in April.

02:10:50.000 Oh, yeah.

02:10:52.000 Right on.

02:10:53.000 It's not official to launch it yet, but there is something cool coming up in Austin in April.

02:10:58.000 Yeah, it's gonna be fun.

02:10:59.000 Hopefully I'm invited.

02:11:00.000 Oh, do you want to be invited?

02:11:01.000 I'd love to see you there.

02:11:03.000 Sure, yeah.

02:11:04.000 Anyway, my website is LukeUncensored.com.

02:11:07.000 We have a lot of members on our members area.

02:11:10.000 We talk about a lot of different stuff, usually surrounding solutions, projects.

02:11:13.000 We're doing an AMA right now.

02:11:14.000 Make sure to get your questions in before I get overwhelmed that I can't answer all of them.

02:11:18.000 LukeUncensored.com is where the conversation is going to be.

02:11:21.000 Thank you again so much for having me and being on my website.

02:11:24.000 So, thanks.

02:11:25.000 Awesome.

02:11:26.000 Yep.

02:11:26.000 Shane Cashman.

02:11:27.000 I'm at Shane Cashman everywhere.

02:11:28.000 You can go on TimCast.com and check out the Inverted World stories and the recent stories I've been doing and working on some new ones right now.

02:11:35.000 And Eliza, grateful for your work and awesome to be here with you.

02:11:38.000 I love you so much, Shane.

02:11:40.000 I'm like your biggest fan.

02:11:41.000 Thank you for supporting me so much online.

02:11:43.000 I love you so much.

02:11:44.000 I think you have a creative mind.

02:11:46.000 And I told Shane, One time I said, I firmly believe that... I had this feeling in my gut.

02:11:51.000 I said, I need to ask Shane to take my picture and write an article because I have a feeling his work will end up being Warhol-esque in a way where it's... That's crazy, but thank you.

02:12:01.000 I'm serious.

02:12:02.000 Thank you.

02:12:02.000 I don't know how else to articulate it, but I think you're really gifted and very talented, and I'm grateful.

02:12:07.000 Yeah, we've been talking about it.

02:12:08.000 Right on.

02:12:09.000 Yeah, we got something in the works.

02:12:10.000 Yeah, we're gonna do a thing.

02:12:11.000 You know what I think would be really cool, and I know you're trying to end the show, but I've had this vision a little bit of you coming out to the farm and really seeing what my day-to-day life is like.

02:12:18.000 That's the goal.

02:12:19.000 And it's totally different than this slam version.

02:12:21.000 Yeah.

02:12:22.000 Yeah, that's the goal.

02:12:23.000 I love doing stories like that where I can just kind of be a phone girl.

02:12:25.000 Do you have any overalls?

02:12:25.000 Do you have any boots?

02:12:26.000 Do you have any slash boots?

02:12:27.000 Put my past life on a form where I grew up.

02:12:29.000 Word.

02:12:30.000 Do you like cats?

02:12:32.000 I've got two.

02:12:32.000 Okay.

02:12:33.000 I'm excited.

02:12:34.000 And you can bring your wife. 0.57

02:12:35.000 Perfect.

02:12:36.000 Yeah, that'd be great.

02:12:37.000 I was excited to hear from... Just FYI.

02:12:39.000 Like, that wasn't...

02:12:40.000 There were a few prominent people who shouted out Shane's story on Ye and Carrie Lake.

02:12:46.000 And I was excited to hear it because Shane emailed me a while ago and was like, hey, I'm a writer, check this out.

02:12:52.000 And I clicked one of the articles and I couldn't stop reading it.

02:12:55.000 And I can't remember exactly which one it was, but I was like, wow, I'm going to ask this guy to come out here.

02:12:59.000 And then you came out and you started working on the Inverted World stuff.

02:13:02.000 Then you ended up profiling, among a bunch of other things, like the stuff from Tales from the Inverted World and The South was amazing.

02:13:08.000 And then profiling Ye was amazing.

02:13:10.000 And then the Carey Lake story, I think, in my opinion, is the best thing I've read from you yet.

02:13:13.000 It was really awesome to read.

02:13:15.000 Thanks.

02:13:15.000 So my attitude is...

02:13:18.000 We need you to write more stuff like that, and then we need to figure out how to just get everybody to read it so they can understand why everybody likes it so much.

02:13:24.000 Yeah.

02:13:25.000 The best response, and you guys sharing it is the best, is like hearing from people who don't read ever and enjoy reading.

02:13:32.000 Like, I couldn't stop reading.

02:13:33.000 It's amazing.

02:13:34.000 I just feel like you're so needed right now.

02:13:36.000 I don't know.

02:13:36.000 I look at what comes out of conservative ink and it's okay.

02:13:41.000 I know people do their thing, but it's so dry.

02:13:43.000 And I feel like you just have a vibe.

02:13:46.000 I appreciate it.

02:13:47.000 Does that make sense?

02:13:48.000 It's young, it's fresh, it's artistic, but it's a vibe.

02:13:51.000 And I'm not saying that you're intentionally trying to be in conservative ink, but I'm saying Just anything that doesn't fit in one side happens to just be thrown.

02:14:01.000 It gives me life.

02:14:06.000 Tim Cass is like one of the only places where you could write stuff like that these days.

02:14:08.000 So I'm grateful.

02:14:09.000 I mean, the yay stuff's funny because like everyone in the world is writing one specific thing about yay.

02:14:17.000 And then Shane's like, I want to go profile him, just like talk to him and get a better, like a more full perspective.

02:14:22.000 And we're like, okay, all right.

02:14:23.000 It's up to you, man.

02:14:23.000 You don't do it.

02:14:24.000 That's why I want to be on the farm.

02:14:25.000 That's, that's the place to be find the real you, you know?

02:14:28.000 I mean, are you sure you like it?

02:14:30.000 That's not a threat.

02:14:32.000 No, I think I'm really chill on the phone.

02:14:34.000 Yeah, I think seeing people outside, and I love doing stuff like this, but seeing people outside of the cameras is just a different angle.

02:14:39.000 Right on.

02:14:40.000 All right, man.

02:14:41.000 We also got Serge.

02:14:42.000 Hey, yeah, been a pleasure.

02:14:44.000 I love the work too, Shane.

02:14:45.000 Thank you, Liza, for everything you've been doing, especially in this whole, I don't want to call it like a situation in the world, but I appreciate it as well.

02:14:53.000 It's been a good one.

02:14:54.000 I'm at Serge.com.

02:14:55.000 Follow me on Twitter.

02:14:56.000 I guess I'm on there.

02:14:56.000 Yeah, it was a good one.

02:14:58.000 Right on.

02:14:59.000 Thanks for hanging out, everybody.

02:15:01.000 We will see you all Monday or check out any of our stuff over the weekend.

02:15:05.000 We're gonna have clips that are gonna be live.

02:15:06.000 So thanks for being members at TimCast.com.

02:15:09.000 Thanks for hanging out and we'll see you all next time.

Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - January 07, 2023

Timcast IRL - Andrew Tate Victims Issue Statement, Lawsuit Getting Prepared w-Eliza Bleu

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