In this episode of TeamCastRL, we are joined by political YouTuber, Kim Iverson. We talk about the Chavin trial, AOC and Matt Gaetz, gun control, and much, much more!
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00:01:09.000And we've got a bunch of stories, a lot having to do with Antifa riots, this autonomous zone in Minneapolis, the Chavin trial, and what's going on with some of the jurors.
00:01:18.000Apparently today in the good old Pacific Northwest, Antifa was out and about trying to smash their way into banks.
00:01:23.000There's like a photo of like a cop coming out, he's got a gun.
00:01:25.000And so we're talking about a lot of this stuff and we'll get into what's going on.
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00:04:59.000This is actually the system that this was built on, was when playing cards are actually sort of like a bible to a certain group of people, and they think that it may be stemmed from people Somewhere in the Middle East, this system.
00:05:15.000So, you know, you've got Chinese astrology, right, with what year you're born, and then you have Western astrology with, like, you're a Pisces, I'm an Aries, we're Aries, right, Leo here.
00:05:24.000So, this one is some sort of Middle Eastern astrology, and they based it on a deck of cards, and basically each day has a different card.
00:05:34.000And of course there's 52 cards and there's more than 52 days.
00:05:36.000So some cards get reused, some cards don't.
00:05:39.000So some cards, I believe there's as many as 13 days associated with one single card.
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00:08:32.000But let's talk about the first big story here.
00:08:35.000We have this from the post-millennial.
00:08:36.000Antifa storm into banks in Portland, try to break inside federal courthouse.
00:08:42.000Just another day in Portland, the right capital of the United States.
00:08:45.000And there's this photo of like an armed cop and there's a bunch of people in front.
00:08:49.000They say a dramatic scene unfolded in Portland this afternoon as Antifa and other left-wing activists tried to break into a Chase bank.
00:08:57.000A lone security guard managed to hold off the mob with his pistol.
00:09:00.000The post-millennial editor-at-large, Andy Ngo, posted footage from a left-wing mob and a bank security guard.
00:09:06.000The source of Ngo's videos is an account titled 45th Parallel Absurdist Brigade, who documented the day's activities.
00:09:12.000They seem to be sympathetic to the protest's cause, seeing as they got nostalgic when passing by the federal courthouse, where last summer Antifa hosted nightly sieges against authorities.
00:09:20.000Today's demonstration was a gathering meant to protest against something called Line 3, which according to a piece last month from The Guardian, is an upcoming pipeline proposal to transfer nearly 1 million barrels of tar sands a day from Alberta, Canada to Superior, Wisconsin, a move that is facing pushback from activists over it being constructed through Native American lands, as well as concerns about the health of the water supply as a result.
00:09:43.000The protesters went to Chase Bank because they're reportedly one of the funders of the Line 3 pipeline project.
00:09:47.000The demonstrators made their way inside after a standoff.
00:09:50.000After tagging the chase in a nearby Apple store with graffiti, the protest made its way to Wells Fargo for an encore performance.
00:09:56.000It all came back around to the Hatfield Courthouse, where DHS and the Antifa crowd are in a standoff at the time of writing.
00:10:03.000Federal officers are currently responding to protect the courthouse as the Antifa crowd starts up their routine property damage to the area.
00:10:25.000It's like a fruit punch medley of all of the things that they're upset about.
00:10:31.000And I got to be honest, it kind of just doesn't make sense, you know?
00:10:35.000So we've been kind of following these stories about what's been going on with Antifa over the past year or so.
00:10:39.000And I'm interested, actually, to get your take, Kim, considering, you know, you view yourself as a progressive, you focus heavily on foreign policy, but also lockdown stuff, just like what you think about what's been going on and how you feel about these individuals.
00:10:50.000Like, what do I think about how Antifa and everything that's been going on with the, like, Chaz Chop areas and all these other things going on?
00:10:58.000I mean, I personally, the way I view it, in just kind of like an overview, kind of looking from the top down, sort of, you know, if I were an alien coming to Earth, it just looks like Everybody's becoming a little bit radicalized in the United States.
00:11:12.000And I think it's a normal thing to become radicalized.
00:11:14.000So as somebody who studies a lot of foreign policy, looking at groups like ISIS, Al Qaeda, right, terrorist organizations, how do people get recruited into those organizations, right?
00:11:25.000They get recruited in because Their life isn't where they want their life to be.
00:11:30.000They're not getting the resources that they need to live a good life.
00:11:33.000They don't feel like they can have a life with a good family and have all the things and opportunity.
00:11:43.000So they join these extremist organizations.
00:11:45.000And I think what we're seeing happen here in the United States is that same lack of opportunity that is happening on both sides of the aisle because it's just people in general not getting that opportunity are now looking for a place to kind of get their anger out.
00:12:01.000And so we're seeing it manifest in a variety of ways.
00:12:03.000And I think that some of the youth are really going after like the they're kind of going and creating these zones like the, you know, Chazz Chop or they're just I think they're just holding up finding some ideology to hold on to.
00:12:17.000To be like, yeah, this is... Are they really mad about any of this stuff?
00:12:21.000No, no, it's not that, and that's kind of my point.
00:12:24.000My point is they're not mad about... They're just exerting their anger somewhere, anywhere, and they just find a group that they think kind of aligns with them on something, and they say, okay, this sounds good, and you're gonna help me get my opportunity back, because we're gonna take the country back, and it's that same exact mentality.
00:12:41.000What are these Antifa people who are protesting in Minneapolis, right, setting up this new autonomous zone?
00:12:48.000I understand you could argue they're mad about the George Floyd thing.
00:12:51.000But when you see them actually go out, they went to a Chase Bank, because it's some way related.
00:12:56.000That one Chase Bank has nothing to do with it.
00:12:58.000I understand, I guess the brand is a symbol of what they oppose.
00:13:01.000But I wonder, it seems like they just went out and said, we're going to get violent.
00:13:06.000You know, we're going to, we're going to smash.
00:13:07.000So they go to the courthouse, they go to different banks.
00:13:09.000They went to Wells Fargo, I guess, because banks are bad.
00:13:29.000Like, they've not seen how bad it really is in other countries, so they just assume they have it bad, and it's really just... I just don't think we can live the American Dream anymore.
00:13:54.000I'm for student loan forgiveness, for sure.
00:13:58.000But I think it should be based on the principle of what you borrowed and you pay back.
00:14:02.000Sure I mean there's a lot of nuances to it right but it's the overall you know and there's many ways we can go about doing things like student loan forgiveness because obviously we have to fix the system and not just hey we're gonna give everybody a check that's you know there's a lot but my point really is that there we're in a society right now that we were all told when we were children that we could have the two-car house Fence, minivan, stay-at-home spouse, potentially, to raise the kids.
00:14:28.000Go on a vacation once a year to Grand Canyon, or Times Square, or Disney World, and that we could go, and then you have your starter home, and then you upgrade your house, and then you, you know, all of these basic things that are grandparents, the greatest generation, the great generation, what are they called?
00:15:45.000And then it's like first year of college and her head's shaved and it's like her hair is just like straggly and pink and she's like screaming and shrieking at the camera like, whoa, what happened to you?
00:15:56.000They go to college and they enter these weird environments and it's like this person was angry and they didn't even graduate.
00:16:03.000What happened where she's in high school and she's like your typical high school, uh, you know, girl, and then she joined, she goes to college and in her first year, she becomes this.
00:16:13.000So like, I definitely see what you're saying.
00:16:14.000I think we can, we can expand upon like angst and the denial of, of what we were promised and things like that.
00:16:22.000Like you go to college one year and then all of a sudden they're Antifa and they're, they're dressing like crazy people.
00:16:26.000I don't think that's most college experience.
00:16:28.000I think that's very specific to like certain universities that take on that vibe like Berkeley is one or you know I don't know maybe Yale I guess I don't know I don't really pay much attention to that but you know when I went to college it was I went to UC I went to seven different schools to be honest with you and then I finally ended up at UC Davis was my final school And they're, you know, everybody's nose to the grindstone just working.
00:16:51.000And everybody's, you know, that's all they're doing.
00:17:34.000Because there are certainly a lot of people like, look, you have student loan debt, you're upset about it, you're not going around smashing windows.
00:18:03.000I think it's fair to criticize to the extent that it was like the Capitol building during the joint session of Congress to count the electoral votes.
00:18:11.000So that holds a lot of weight with why it was particularly egregious.
00:18:16.000But I'm like, they've stormed, you know, the far left has stormed local state buildings, like Capitol buildings, local courthouses.
00:18:22.000They've literally stormed the congressional buildings on more than one occasion.
00:18:25.000They were trying, they're banging on the door and smashing it during the Kavanaugh hearing.
00:18:29.000So it's like, I think it's worse to go after the average person.
00:18:33.000Take your angst out on the right people.
00:18:34.000At least these Antifa people, I'll give them credit, they didn't go after the mom-and-pop shops, they went after the actual institutions they're angry at.
00:18:40.000No, they went after mom-and-pop shops.
00:18:41.000On this one, this occasion that you're talking about?
00:18:43.000Oh, this one, this one, this one, right, right, right.
00:19:07.000So people went into your complex or whatever?
00:19:09.000Yeah, what happened was there was like a group of armed rioters, looters, or whatever, and they had looted a place, a business, and then they got in their getaway car and drove off, and the cops were chasing after them, and they drove into my complex, of all places, and they got out of their car, and they got into our building, and they were hiding in our building with guns.
00:19:29.000It's a good thing you guys are armed and you have excellent gun laws.
00:19:33.000So I'm from Idaho and I've always been, even though I've always identified as a liberal and more of a Democrat, even though now not, but the one thing that I never really agreed with others on my side of the aisle were about guns.
00:19:44.000I'm a big pro-Second Amendment person.
00:19:46.000I'm from Idaho, you know, I don't know, maybe, I'm sure there's anti-Second Amendment people in Idaho, so I shouldn't generalize.
00:19:52.000But after that, I will say everybody in my complex, I live in a very liberal area of LA as well, and everybody was very, always been anti-gun.
00:20:01.000And after that, at the dog park, I'd go to the dog park with my dog and I'd overhear the conversations.
00:20:06.000And people would say, you know, I never thought about owning a gun.
00:20:17.000Yeah, I mean, look at what's happened in the cities.
00:20:19.000I mean, we were locking down, people were coming to our house.
00:20:21.000We had, my neighborhood was totally destroyed by the looters.
00:20:25.000And they were, my uncle's businesses, I mean, my aunt's business got totally, she had to board it up, you know, and to, and immigrant, and by the way, refugee, You know, immigrants with businesses that have been able to work hard and have the American dream in a way and had to board up their businesses.
00:20:46.000There is a cultural practice among my people when these riots happen.
00:20:51.000They get on top of the roofs of their stores.
00:20:54.000And it's a weird thing to bring up, because I know there's like, you know, Count Dankula was like talking about roof Koreans for a long time.
00:21:01.000And I'm like, I wonder if the woke people like are going to feign outrage over that, because like I think the LA riots had a lot of problems, and we can be critical of it, but like, am I allowed to joke about roof Koreans, you know, taking their guns and getting on the rooftops to defend their families and their businesses?
00:21:45.000I remember when everything started getting crazy during COVID and the lines were out the door and it was like all of a sudden like run-of-the-mill liberals were trying to buy guns and the funniest thing about it was how many of them realized it wasn't easy.
00:22:06.000I hadn't tried, because I knew I wasn't going to be able to do it, but I know that, for one, the stores, many of them were closed, or if they, I think you have to apply, but what many of us do is just, we consider going to, like, my home state of Idaho, or Nevada, and the process is a lot easier.
00:22:23.000And then you're able to bring it back to California?
00:22:25.000Oh sure, you just have to register the weapon once you get to California.
00:22:28.000A lot of states do operate that like that. You know, if you already have it or if you bought it somewhere else legally,
00:23:35.000Yeah, but I and I would think that bearing arms I guess we'd have to look back at what did they mean by the word bearing, you know, bear arms back then.
00:23:44.000It meant bear arms, like you can kill a bear.
00:23:46.000It's like if you're bare naked that means you're it's obvious everyone can see it.
00:23:52.000If you're bearing your teeth that means you're showing your teeth.
00:23:55.000So bearing arms would be like open carry.
00:23:58.000Well that's what we think today in 2021 with that word but I'd be curious to think what to know what their definition of it was in 17 You can look at a lot of the quotes from the Founding Fathers and like the Federalist Papers and things like that, and they're pretty much like, everybody should have guns all the time.
00:24:15.000You know, they had private artillery at their homes.
00:24:17.000There's like a funny meme about some, you know, a lot of people on the left like to say that the Founding Fathers didn't expect someone to have a semi-automatic, you know, whatever, AR-15 assault weapon or something, which assault weapon is meaningless, by the way.
00:24:29.000But, uh, and then there's this funny meme where it's like, someone breaks into a guy's house and he pulls out his musket and fires.
00:24:35.000It goes across the street and hits a dog, ripping a hole in it because it's smoothbore.
00:24:39.000He runs upstairs and screams, Tally-ho, lads, and then fires two massive artillery cannons.
00:26:39.000Yeah, they're not necessarily pirates, but they were responsible for a lot of the piracy because what would happen is with the English crown, for instance, they would issue letters of mark to a private warship.
00:26:51.000Or a private ship that had military capabilities.
00:26:54.000And then the letter of Mark was basically like, if you screw with our enemies, then you're all good.
00:27:00.000And then what would happen is France would be like, they would go to Britain and be like, your citizens are pirates and you're signing letters of Mark.
00:27:09.000And then the Crown would be like, oh, heavens, they're criminals.
00:28:24.000So while people were using like flintlock pistols and muskets and stuff there were there I think there was one like he showed where it's got like 16 barrels and they were each loaded and you could like fire them all rapid succession and those were legal and allowed It's just people it was easier and cheaper to have the standard, you know single shot or whatever so I guess I guess it is an interesting argument about what they actually thought but As far as I can tell, you know, maybe by today's standards the Founding Fathers would look and be like, oh heavens!
00:29:03.000Because, like, the idea that you aren't allowed to have your First Amendment rights, your right to worship, because technology changed, you know, well beyond what they expected to happen.
00:29:11.000Communications over the internet is not guaranteed.
00:29:14.000And I guess they're arguing that, to a certain extent.
00:29:17.000But no, like, technology changes, but our rights change with them.
00:29:20.000So a better example is probably the Fourth Amendment.
00:29:23.000If you have private information you do not expect people to see, then it is a violation of your rights to illegally search or seize your private information.
00:29:34.000There was no such thing as metadata back then.
00:29:36.000But we still, I think, for the most part, agree the NSA is bad.
00:29:40.000You know, spying on us and stealing our data is a violation of our right to be free from this intrusion.
00:29:46.000And so when it comes down to the Constitution, I actually think there are some things that we don't want even the state to use against its people or the people to have because weapons are becoming extremely powerful, particularly directed energy weapons.
00:30:09.000I have the right to express my opinion like I'm doing now, but I don't believe that these politicians who are passing these laws have a right to do that unless they amend the Constitution.
00:30:18.000So by all means, we can have a conversation, but if you don't get that two-thirds majority, then it should not be done.
00:30:56.000What if someone's four-year-old reached over and tried to grab your gun?
00:30:59.000Then take better care of your gun and make sure your holster just reached over and grabbed your holster. Yeah, make sure
00:31:04.000What would you do? Would you shoot kid? Like what do you know? Wait, wait, wait, wait
00:31:07.000What would some crazy person you would get away from my gun arm?
00:31:10.000It's a four-year-old and you just like an 11 year old that you grab
00:31:14.000Are you can't overpower to 11 year old Ian?
00:31:16.000Let me get to the point. I'm just saying Why you don't dangle listen candy
00:31:22.000I'm not saying I like the idea, I'm saying so long as the Constitution says you have the right to keep and bear arms, I can't tell someone they can't do it.
00:31:30.000I know, but should we change the Constitution is my question.
00:31:33.000Like, do you think there should be training for guns?
00:31:35.000You know, this is like one maybe a lot of saying, OK, you can.
00:31:51.000I guess the challenge is, so long as the Constitution has it verbatim in there, I feel like it would be an authoritarian violation of other people's rights to supersede the supreme law of this land.
00:32:02.000That includes all of the amendments as well.
00:32:46.000That's not, in my opinion, a restriction on the First Amendment, which says speech and reason and peaceably assemble if you are committing a crime.
00:32:53.000There is a challenge because crimes can, laws can be changed and other things can become crimes.
00:32:58.000They can say, okay, if you, one of the arguments we have to be careful of, and this is why I'm still very much more absolute on free speech issues, not completely though, is they'll say, alright, if committing a crime is the
00:33:09.000threshold by which you don't have the right to say something, like telling someone to go commit
00:33:14.000harm or murder somebody, then what if they pass a law saying hate speech is a crime, and
00:33:19.000now they can say, okay, well now that offending someone is a crime, you can't cross the
00:33:22.000threshold of committing a So it's very difficult.
00:33:26.000And that's why the Constitution exists for an important reason.
00:33:29.000The Founding Fathers were very concerned about tyranny.
00:33:31.000More so, the Bill of Rights was the anti-federalists who were concerned that centralization of federal authority would cause another situation like they had with the Crown.
00:33:41.000If you want them to change, we have an amendment process for this.
00:33:44.000So as much as I might be like, in Chicago, we got gun problems.
00:33:48.000In New York, You know, when we were talking with Luke about this, it was interesting because I said, bro, if you're in a cubicle apartment stacked on top of a bunch of concrete shoe boxes smelling like sour milk, and someone breaks in, and you've got, you know, like a .308 rifle, you're gonna go through the walls.
00:34:23.000People don't realize, even people who are good at shooting might be in an intense situation, they panic, they miss, they hit something, they hit somebody else.
00:34:30.000So naturally, people in big cities say, we want gun control laws.
00:34:33.000My problem is, okay, but you need to amend the Constitution.
00:34:37.000We can't just say the Constitution is meaningless because either it matters or it doesn't and I do not believe that I have the authority or any politician does to be like Constitution doesn't matter.
00:34:47.000I guess that's why we don't why the Constitution says anyone can do it and then it's like a state by state or locality by locality thing because you don't want to ban the open right to carry in, you know, rural Idaho when, just because the New York City is too close, people are too close together.
00:35:02.000Yeah, but we don't do that with free speech.
00:35:04.000We don't say, well, it's based on which city you live in.
00:35:06.000So, you know, you should have the right to say what you want to say if you're in rural Idaho, but not if you're in New York City.
00:35:12.000I mean, we, you know, so on that point, we don't have it municipality by municipality.
00:35:17.000We do it, you know, it's a blanket free speech.
00:35:20.000Maybe the issue is just, listen, you're responsible for whatever comes at the end of that barrel.
00:35:24.000And if you live in New York, and you own a gun, and you have it on you, and you use it, and whatever it hits, you're responsible for.
00:35:29.000The same is true for anywhere you live.
00:35:30.000Yeah, but if I'm dead, I'm not gonna care how responsible you were held to whatever it was, right?
00:35:36.000Like, at that point, I'm already... I've already been victimized, or I've already had to...
00:36:16.000I'm going to be listening every day, and if I don't hear my name at least three times a show... My rights are not up to a vote.
00:36:24.000And I'm like, man, he's got... But they are, aren't they?
00:36:26.000You can vote to amend the Constitution and change people's rights.
00:36:29.000So the issue is, yes, but I think the simple way to look at it is, so long as the Constitution guarantees your right to bear arms, to keep them, then it needs to be all the states coming together and changing that, and not some Rep Kinzinger in Illinois being like, I think we should have expanded background checks banning the private sale of firearms.
00:36:49.000So do you agree with banning Absolutely not.
00:37:14.000I don't know, I haven't thought about that.
00:37:16.000vote. I agree. I agree that they should get all of their rights reinstated upon completion.
00:37:21.000All of them, including, wow. The right to bear arms. I don't know, I hadn't thought about that.
00:37:24.000I mean, I definitely think felons who've paid their price and have come out should have the
00:37:28.000right restored to vote and bear arms. And travel, everything. Yeah, everything, except I don't know
00:37:34.000about whether or not, you know, domestic violence, you know, especially guys that have committed
00:37:38.000acts of domestic violence, they go in, they come out, and they serve very little time.
00:37:43.000And then, you know, so not everybody does pay what I would consider a reasonable debt to society.
00:37:49.000It is better that ten guilty persons escape than one innocent person suffer.
00:37:53.000I will take the liberty-based view that we must protect the rights of the individual and those who have done right by our system and our rules over fear that there may be a risk.
00:38:05.000Like, uh, we mentioned this the other day, I think it was Otto von Bismarck or whatever who said it is better that ten innocent people suffer than one guilty person escape.
00:39:01.000The reason I bring that up is like, if somebody is determined to cause themselves harm and end their life, what they need is help.
00:39:09.000And one of the reasons I'm in favor of assisted suicide is not because I'm like, yes, someone should just help them die.
00:39:13.000It's because they'll talk to somebody first.
00:39:15.000They'll go through a process to make sure it's actually something that should happen.
00:39:19.000And oftentimes a lot of people might have a chronic disease or like cluster headaches where their life is just pure psychotic misery and agony and they're desperate and nothing will relieve their pain.
00:39:28.000Oftentimes they're going through a period of depression and it'll help them go through therapy as opposed to taking action on their own.
00:39:35.000The gun argument for suicide overlooks the fact that people will get drunk and then sink into a bathtub, or they'll take pills and then sink into a bathtub, drop a toaster in the bathtub, and a bunch of other really awful things.
00:39:48.000I think, you know, for a lot of people, they maybe want to end their life, but they want to do it quick and easy and they can't fathom doing it in some, you know, drawn out way that's going to cause a lot more pain or harm.
00:40:03.000And it is the number one, you know, when people talk about all the gun violence, right, whenever they're mentioning all the gun violence, all these things, it's mostly suicide.
00:40:36.000So a violent gun offender goes in there, comes out, there's a good chance that he or she is crazier than they were when they went in.
00:40:42.000The main issue with the suicide thing is, I'll put it this way, I would absolutely love it if there was a way to reasonably have someone who was suicidal not have access to a gun or something they could use to end their life.
00:40:53.000One of the reasons I'm in favor of assisted suicide is that we want to encourage as many people to go to a doctor and for therapy to talk about why they feel this way and determine if it actually is something they need.
00:41:04.000Oh, so you mean you're for physician-assisted suicide even if the person's healthy and they want to end their life?
00:41:16.000I don't know if, I mean, if they, unless they were led to believe that that was an option, like if I can go to my doctor and I could tell him I'm suicidal and I don't want to do this anymore, help me.
00:41:26.000Yeah, but that's different than like... Well, so there would be criteria, but I do believe there are a lot of people who would be like, my life sucks, I'm miserable, and I think I might qualify, they'll go to a doctor.
00:41:35.000Whatever we can do... They'd have to be crazy and suicidal, I think.
00:41:38.000I think it may not be a perfect solution, but whatever we can do to encourage people who are suffering to go to a doctor in any capacity.
00:41:46.000So I would love it if we could be like, okay, let's take... But they can't if they're dead, because they've shot themselves, because we let them have a gun.
00:41:52.000Then how do you take away their gun before they were suicidal?
00:42:27.000Where there was a guy, he was in his 60s, and I could be getting some of the details wrong, but the gist of it was someone in his life, an ex or a family member, was feuding with him, told the police that he was unstable and unwell and armed, and so they served a red flag warrant.
00:42:42.000The police showed up to his house and he had no idea why they were there.
00:42:45.000They knock on the door, and he answers the door and he's got his gun.
00:42:56.000And he fought with them and they shot and killed him.
00:42:59.000The problem with trying to seize someone's weapons because we think they might be suicidal is that we create conflicts where someone with a gun is now going to be engaging with police.
00:43:11.000I'm not saying, like, you know, if there's someone who's, like, deranged and mentally unwell and they've got a gun, like, we definitely want to prevent them from going on, you know, a killing spree or doing something really atrocious with that weapon.
00:43:24.000And figuring out the right way to go about doing that is difficult because red flag laws end up creating very dangerous circumstances and may actually end up backfiring like they did in this circumstance and there's apparently a bunch of other stories that are similar to it.
00:43:44.000They served a red flag on him and it ended in his death because he barricaded himself in there and there was no getting him out without I mean, you gotta think about this too, if like, these people really are unstable.
00:43:57.000Then you're going to send in police to be like, now give us your guns when they're already unstable?
00:44:00.000Right, then that's going to be a great way for them to commit suicide right then and there.
00:45:13.000I doubt that anyone could ever have total control.
00:45:16.000Every time a new iPhone update comes out, some 17-year-old kid figures out how to break Apple security, and then you can install whatever you want.
00:45:24.000So I think, more importantly, my ideal version of a world is people have a reasonable armament.
00:45:32.000People who are mentally ill or suicidal aren't armed.
00:45:36.000We have restrictions to make sure that the people who have weapons are intelligent, well-trained, well-informed.
00:45:42.000The first problem I encounter is the Constitution.
00:45:45.000It doesn't say what the qualifications are, it just says that people have a right to do it, and we need to have an amendment if we want that to be considered.
00:45:51.000And then beyond that is, how do you actually implement any of these controls without actually just infringing on the rights of those who are intelligent, well-meaning, lawful citizens?
00:46:00.000Because I grew up in Chicago where guns were, like, they're basically illegal.
00:46:15.000And so all that really ends up happening is that no one anywhere nearby had any means of protecting themselves from this person who had a gun.
00:46:21.000And so you get a lot of murders on the South Side, and there's nothing anyone can do because they're not legally allowed to defend themselves when they see it.
00:46:27.000Maybe it wouldn't be a perfect world having a very dense population and everyone being armed because people might panic and you get a lot more shootings.
00:46:34.000I don't know what that world would look like.
00:46:36.000I do know the world we have now is in Chicago.
00:46:39.000There was a friend of a friend of mine.
00:46:42.000He wasn't someone I knew, but it was someone my friends were friends with.
00:46:45.000Took two in the chest because he was sitting in front of the wrong house in his car and that was it.
00:46:49.000Someone walked out and had a gun and they couldn't do anything and he went pop pop.
00:46:55.000Well, I definitely think and kind of back to one of my original points is that we can curb gun violence by creating a happy population.
00:47:03.000And when people feel like they're happy, and they have opportunity, and they've got a good life in front of them, they don't turn to violence and crime.
00:47:39.000I don't think any of us are better than anybody.
00:47:41.000We all can revert to that animalistic side of us.
00:47:44.000And so I think that if we want to curb gun violence, probably one of the better measures because you look at a country like Switzerland, where everybody's got a gun.
00:47:54.000And they have very little gun violence.
00:48:34.000Well, I mean, that seems to be, I guess, kind of circular logic or paradoxical.
00:48:40.000I don't think, well, you know, in my world, there isn't an American culture that's like, I think what maybe others would think of as American culture.
00:48:49.000Like, I think they think of, you know, I think they think of like my dad's life where my dad grew up in Idaho, you know, on a farm with, um, blonde hair, blue eyes, you know, went to church, had pigs or something.
00:49:07.000Yeah, but so that's why to me, American culture is different, right?
00:49:10.000Because I'm an American and I was raised here, but my mom is Vietnamese, and my mom's side of the family is Vietnamese, and they're very American.
00:49:17.000I mean, my mom is a big Trump supporter.
00:49:20.000Ironically, you know, my dad's side of the family, Idahoans, farmers, Not they were Bernie total progress very similar experience strange Like yeah, the Korean side of my family is it's not entirely Trump, but you know, it's more so stingly Yeah, and my mom's side of the family These are the refugees that by the way went through some of those camps that you have to go through in order to process they went through the processing centers and
00:49:47.000People of color, you know, living in California, and they're the big Trump supporters.
00:49:53.000The idea of multiculturalism has two meanings.
00:49:56.000To the progressives, it means that under this big shared human experience, we all have different ways of living, different clothes, and different ways of speaking, but all of these cultures can exist side by side.
00:50:55.000And I think that's actually what he did.
00:50:56.000He saw her and how popular she was and becoming, and I think he adopted a lot of her rhetoric and it was a mistake.
00:51:04.000Same with Trump, had he just stuck with his 2016 campaign message and had Bernie stuck with his 2016 campaign message, both of them would have been a very different outcome.
00:51:13.000I love this fact check from PolitiFact.
00:51:15.000Bernie Sanders, when you're white, you don't know what it's like to be poor.
00:51:59.000So he said quote when you're white you don't know what it's like to be living in a ghetto
00:52:02.000You don't know what it's like to be poor You don't know what it's like to be hassled when you walk
00:52:06.000down the street or you get dragged out of a car Sander said when you're white you don't know what it's like
00:52:10.000to be poor PolitiFact rates this statement as a false statement.
00:52:14.000I think it's funny because you can't read the minds of white people and assume they know what it's like to be poor.
00:52:19.000But considering the fact that white poor people are the, there are more white poor people than any other, you know, demographic, then it's fairly obvious.
00:52:26.000So Bernie would like, he got arrested for sitting on civil rights in his early days, but he was co-opted by this progressive mind bug.
00:52:50.000They said, you can track the moment when Bernie Sanders became a millionaire by when he stopped saying millionaires and billionaires and began only saying billionaires.
00:52:57.000And then you can actually look at the chart and see it.
00:52:59.000In a way, he's right, because it's the billionaire class that's choosing global policy at Davos.
00:53:50.000But I think they're living a similar lifestyle.
00:53:51.000How many yachts can you have, you know?
00:53:53.000I would say not necessarily, but there's a certain amount of money where you can completely influence politics to an insane degree.
00:54:02.000But let's go back a little bit, you know, because we're talking a little bit about Bernie, but I do want to mention the multiculturalism thing because we're talking about Switzerland and gun crime and stuff.
00:54:09.000And the issue is they're extremely culturally homogenous.
00:54:13.000I don't know if that... I hate that argument.
00:54:16.000I went to Sweden, and I was told by all of these people on the right that there was a serious crime wave from refugees and migrants.
00:54:24.000I was told on the left it was not true, that crime was worse among native Swedes, and things like that.
00:54:29.000It turns out the right-wing narrative was particularly exaggerated.
00:54:32.000I don't think, from many of the conservatives, it was intentional.
00:54:36.000I think what happened was, there was a crime wave happening in some cities, notably Malmo, And they saw their murder rate spike by, like, 1,300%.
00:55:01.000It went from one murder to 13 murders.
00:55:03.000It was the children of refugees and migrants from 20-something years ago, and even maybe the grandchildren, and the crime was gang-related, not refugees from the Middle East, and it was one murder to 13 murders.
00:55:17.000So while it was a massive percentage increase, when you realize like, okay, that is bad, but their crime is still ridiculously low relative to anybody else.
00:55:25.000We definitely don't want crime on the rise.
00:55:27.000But a lot of people in the United States and the UK hear that and they imagine the cities are burning down and it's like this massive increase in crime.
00:55:33.000And then many on the left just like outright denied that it was happening.
00:55:36.000What I ended up finding out when I went to Sweden was that When they brought in a lot of Somali refugees in the 90s, they put them in enclaves where they had almost no opportunity to integrate with the Swedish economy.
00:55:51.000And if you can't get a job, you become poor.
00:55:53.000And if you're poor, poverty breeds crime.
00:55:56.000What ended up happening was I was told by many people in Sweden that these young men in some of these places, Rosengard or whatever, that they're called immigrants by people in Sweden, even though they were born in the country.
00:56:10.000If they go and visit their relatives in Somalia, they're called Swedes.
00:56:14.000Because they have accents and they're not from Somalia.
00:56:16.000So here they are, people who struggle to find work, who can't find work, and are basically isolated from Swedish culture because of the racism of Sweden.
00:56:24.000Sweden is one of the most racist places I've ever been to, mind you, absolutely.
00:56:29.000They turn to lives of crime out of desperation and disdain.
00:56:33.000They don't view the police as having any authority over them because they don't feel like they're a part of that community because they were raised as being told they were immigrants when they were born in the country.
00:56:42.000That lack of integration and that separation of their two cultures means they didn't care about the Swedish people and the Swedish people certainly didn't care about them.
00:56:52.000This is years ago, mind you, but they changed the policy when I was there so that when new migrants and refugees were coming in, they were strategically placed so that they were absolutely placed into the economy with an opportunity to work and go to school and have jobs.
00:57:05.000And that seemed to have been helping a lot of the issues.
00:57:08.000What ended up happening was there's a couple of different ways we can experience multiculturalism.
00:57:13.000But the idea that's being pushed by the left, as you noted, the segregation idea, is going to result in serious crime and violence.
00:57:20.000And so you'll have people who own guns and they'll use them against those who are not a part of their community.
00:57:25.000I think the easiest way to understand it, there's a saying that many activists have, snitches get stitches.
00:57:33.000And you're also not supposed to cross the thin blue line or whatever that saying is.
00:57:37.000There are many instances where we have seen police officers commit crimes and then the other cops will lie to protect them.
00:57:43.000I know this firsthand because there was a guy in New York who was falsely accused of a crime.
00:57:48.000I happen to have been live-streaming and filmed it.
00:57:50.000And the officer who grabbed the- the supervisor who grabbed the guy instructed a different cop to lie on her arrest documents about what he did, and she did it no problem.
00:57:59.000And she went to court and lied under oath, no problem.
00:58:02.000And then the defense said, here's the footage proving you lied.
00:58:05.000And they said, officer, you're free to go have a nice day, case dismissed.
00:58:08.000And they asked, no one seemed to care that these cops just did this.
00:58:11.000At the same time, Antifa will go around throwing explosives at people and left-wing activists in Portland will lie and shield them to protect them.
00:58:20.000People in certain communities do not rat on their own.
00:59:57.000just to go back home and live in their community.
00:59:59.000So they actually sort of self-segregate.
01:00:01.000But because they had opportunity and the ability to go and start businesses and the ability to thrive, there's very little crime now.
01:00:08.000But when I was a kid growing up, how many times did I see, was I victim of home burglarizing, home invasion?
01:00:16.000My grandmother was a home invasion victim where they tied her up and beat her up for like four hours.
01:00:20.000That was going on in my community, in the Vietnamese community, when there was a lack of opportunity.
01:00:25.000Or I would say not lack of opportunity because the opportunity was there, it's just that they were still poor.
01:00:31.000I think you're right, and I'll amend my statement.
01:00:33.000I think there are issues where communities don't hold their own accountable, but I do think poverty was the driving force.
01:00:40.000Looking at what was happening in Sweden, it was specifically because the children of these migrants couldn't get work.
01:00:46.000And so you had a poor community that was desperate and also kind of shunned And that breeds crime, and then the community factor kind of plays a role in this as well.
01:00:55.000How do you feel about universal basic income?
01:00:59.000You know, I don't know how I feel about it yet.
01:01:16.000Because, or a landlord says, I know now you've gotten a thousand extra dollars a month, so now I'm going to raise the rent.
01:01:23.000I mean, so that's kind of my, when, especially in a society that we are in, which is capitalist society, right?
01:01:30.000If the people know that you have the means and the ability to pay, they will raise the price.
01:01:34.000This is what the problem we actually, the fundamental problem we have with banks.
01:01:38.000Is that banks will say, well, like, this is why student education, I think, has gone through the roof, is because when the government said, especially we'll do federally backed student loans, then the banks were like, well, then we'll go ahead and give you a bunch of loans.
01:01:54.000And And, you know, and then the institutions were like, well, wow, okay, then we'll go ahead and raise the price of tuition because we know you're going to get the loans.
01:02:05.000They were able to just continue raising and raising and raising.
01:02:08.000And so that's my, that's my one concern with the universal basic income is that it would create that same sort of, well, you have federal guaranteed money.
01:02:17.000And so therefore I know what I can do in response is raise prices.
01:02:22.000Yeah, that's actually a good point a lot of people don't bring up.
01:02:26.000You know, if the average working person, if their labor is valued less, or it's more expensive now because they already have access to resources and revenue, then all the prices of everything is going to go up.
01:02:39.000It's a weird thing that I think a lot of progressives don't seem to understand when it comes to the arguments about minimum wage.
01:02:45.000I used to be a pretty big proponent of increasing it to a certain extent.
01:04:23.000And so then when you find out somebody's making a certain amount of money, because it's extremely transparent, you don't have any questions of why, you know, you know why they're making the money that they're making.
01:04:32.000But I think that there's a way to tie, and you know, you know, who else does that?
01:04:37.000Who does transparent wages is Whole Foods.
01:04:41.000I believe everybody at Whole Foods knows what everybody makes, and there's a couple of other companies that do it, but I think if you tie the wage to a percentage of whatever the top person is making... I'm gonna have to shatter that beautiful dream of yours.
01:05:25.000And then I'm gonna use that money to give everybody a raise.
01:05:28.000And then you give your employees a raise and everyone's like, look at this guy who's a bastion of good, left libertarianism is really helping.
01:05:34.000And then you look at your bottom line and you're like, okay, so I took off about $920,000 of my salary, which was taxed at the employment rate, which is 7.5 on my end and 7.5 on the business end.
01:05:45.000Now that it's passive income, I save 7.5% and make way more money.
01:05:48.000Congratulations, you found a way to make 70 plus grand while pretending to lower your wage.
01:05:54.000You could also be tied to the revenue of the company.
01:05:59.000So there could be a system where it's like, OK, you know, the well, like in Japan and in Germany, for example, it's really immoral for CEOs to get paid a certain amount of money.
01:06:09.000It's a cultural enforcement, a social enforcement.
01:06:13.000So here's the here's the here's the issue with tying it to revenue.
01:06:16.000One of the difficult things, too, about running a business is when you have to... It's a really, really weird thing at the end of the year.
01:06:23.000When, depending on what kind of business you have, you have to pay taxes on the money, but you need that money to operate.
01:06:28.000And so it's kind of frustrating where it's like, you might have a good month, and you're like, this is wonderful.
01:06:32.000I have enough that's like a safety net to make sure my company can function, and now I have to give a chunk of that to the government.
01:06:38.000But it's like all that happened was a day passed, you know, so if one of the hardest things is when if you try tying revenue to the highest paid person, what happens if you bring in a good amount of revenue and you want to expand and invest and grow the company and hire more people?
01:06:54.000Well, you can't now because you made too much.
01:06:56.000You got to pay everyone a lot more money.
01:06:58.000Could you then defer it by saying, wait, I'm not going to pay them more money, more money, because I'm going to actually going to hire 10 more people and create 10 more jobs, which lowers our, well, it doesn't lower your revenue.
01:07:07.000It lowers your, it increases your expensive and lowers your profits.
01:07:11.000So do you have it be tied to the profit?
01:07:13.000Well then someone can just... I'm giving myself a bonus.
01:07:18.000I'm gonna be giving myself a CD as an executive bonus, which is not income that can be taken today.
01:07:24.000There's a million and one ways to get around this stuff.
01:07:27.000I actually don't think you can get around it with the passive income thing, now that I'm thinking more about it, if they would make a rule that the owner could not, so you couldn't be the owner.
01:07:39.000So it would be the highest paid employee versus the lowest paid employee?
01:07:44.000So the owner is not, and they already do this with the corporations as it is, you know, there's so many, and you know, I know all this sounds really complicated, but as it is, come on, our taxes are so complicated.
01:07:53.000We could just, you know, make some extra complications to this.
01:07:57.000But I think that they could say exempt from owner, you know, there's like, just like right now with pass through corporations, they've got certain things where they say, okay, but if you're an owner, then you don't get this tax break.
01:08:08.000But if you are, you know, That might work.
01:08:10.000The highest paid employee versus the lowest paid employee and shareholders are exempt.
01:08:18.000If you have somebody who's like an executive, you know, executive vice president or something, and they're like, I'll only do this job for a million dollars a year.
01:08:32.000And that's actually really good for the business owner because you can then say, Sorry, I can't give you a million dollars because then I'd have to pay the mailroom guy 50k a year and we can't afford that.
01:08:41.000We've got a thousand low-level employees that would have to go up substantially if we gave you that much money.
01:08:47.000So it actually is a great bargaining chip for the business owners to essentially be like, we can keep down.
01:08:53.000I think that actually could theoretically result in a dramatic split between the wealth of the classes because the owners would then have In effect, a legal coordination to stop paying people more money.
01:09:07.000I think that's a bad thing, by the way.
01:10:00.000I'd imagine if somebody was paying a CEO $50 million, we're talking about like an Amazon tier company, where Bezos, he actually only gets $83,000 a year, because, you know, he's a billionaire from stock.
01:10:09.000But if someone brought on a CEO at $50 million, we're talking like probably 50K employees or something, or a decent amount of them probably at the lowest level.
01:10:16.000So that would mean that you're going to say $50 million a year plus all of these costs, let's say 25,000 people, and we're going to increase, you know, per employee $10,000.
01:10:27.000Now is it really feasible to pay all that money?
01:10:30.000You know, that's why you'd have to really decide if that person was really truly worth it.
01:10:34.000And, and you'd have to, it couldn't just be your buddy you're trying to give a good job to.
01:10:38.000It would have to be that person is actually going to bring value to your company.
01:10:41.000You believe they're going to bring value to your company.
01:10:43.000And so you think they're worth worth that entire investment.
01:10:46.000Otherwise you tone it down a bit on who you can hire.
01:11:02.000I mean, so you'd set it in a way that it makes sense and some smart accountants would sit down and actually, hopefully... Maybe it just gives every hourly employee another $0.50.
01:11:18.000But if we said, this is the way we're going to do it from now on, and the highest paid employee cannot make all of the money at the company.
01:11:25.000I certainly think we have a wealth inequality problem.
01:11:27.000And I talk about it, you know, every so often.
01:11:29.000The issue is you end up with the George Soros's and the Bezos's and the Mercer's and just really, really wealthy people.
01:11:53.000What I mean is, relative to the power of a billionaire who can fund, you know, just dump money in the pockets via Super PAC or by just, you know, direct donation to every single candidate they want.
01:12:05.000And, you know, we know that the studies have shown that The public opinion has no impact on policy.
01:12:12.000It is the donor class, the wealthy individuals who control everything.
01:12:15.000We should not be a country that does that.
01:12:17.000And I think it's one of the reasons you end up with a Bernie Sanders on the left and a Trump on the right.
01:12:21.000So I certainly think we need to figure this out.
01:12:22.000And one of the reasons I've talked about why I support very, very high tax brackets for the ultra wealthy.
01:12:29.000Let me explain, though, because there's some caveats here.
01:12:31.000The general idea is, if you make $100,000 a year, it's pretty good, man.
01:12:37.000I mean, COVID has really messed everything up, so you probably need more than that at this point.
01:12:41.000But if you're spending 37% of that in taxes, how much money do you have left over to live?
01:12:46.000Not enough to live a middle-class life, according to that Harvard Business Study.
01:12:50.000So you'd have to make maybe like $150K to clear $80K spending so you can have vacation, a family, and food.
01:12:58.000But what if you make a million dollars a year?
01:13:00.000Now your tax bracket's higher, but you still have hundreds of thousands of dollars left over after your base expenses.
01:13:07.000Eventually, people using this money can invest, can grow more, and power attracts power, and it's a snowball rolling down a hill where they gain more and more and more wealth.
01:13:15.000Then at a certain point, you have people who really, what I call breaking the barrier, reach that point of independent wealth where they no longer have to work, they have so much money.
01:13:24.000And I don't mean, like, you can live off the money and retire.
01:13:27.000I mean, quite literally, they can put it in the bank and generate so much interest, they just don't have to work.
01:13:33.000Because then, that massive amount of wealth and power means they can just control whatever they want.
01:13:39.000They can shut down the opinions of a good working-class American.
01:13:42.000Some, you know, middle-class family in the middle of the country, a mom and a dad who are working to make ends meet, And they see something on the news and they say, I think I should be allowed to defend my family if a burglar comes and I want the right to bear arms.
01:13:54.000And then some random dude worth a couple billion dollars just laughs and says, too bad!
01:13:59.000I, as a single individual, am going to pour so much money into all of the candidates who want to ban guns that your opinion is meaningless.
01:14:06.000And I'm like, why should that one person supersede those two people simply based on how much money he has?
01:14:11.000There are certainly issues about free speech and your right to buy commercials and stuff.
01:14:14.000I like the idea of a progressive tax because the more power you have, the more power you can gain, and a progressive tax slowly starts to chip away at how much you're really gaining.
01:14:24.000There's a limit, though, to figure that limit out, so I'm not entirely sure.
01:14:26.000I don't think it's 90%, like some people have suggested.
01:14:28.000Maybe 55, 60% for the highest income earners.
01:14:31.000I'm talking, like, over $5 million a year.
01:14:33.000The main issue as to why Milktoast Spencer here, I don't think it can be implemented, is it makes no sense to just give that money to the government to go blow up kids in Syria, so...
01:14:42.000We want to curtail the ultra-elites from shutting down our rights and shutting down our free speech.
01:14:48.000Zuckerberg dumped, what, $300 million into the election?
01:14:50.000Meanwhile, he's censoring our speech on Facebook and Twitter.
01:14:53.000I don't like these billionaires having all of that power.
01:14:55.000But I don't think giving it to the government solves the problem.
01:14:57.000Right, I mean, libertarians will tell you why even have taxes.
01:15:22.000Yeah, I'm a big fan of, I really like this idea of voucher programs and choice in public services, like schools, maybe even police departments.
01:15:30.000So we have public school, but everybody pays taxes.
01:15:34.000The rich will pay obviously more simply by virtue of having more money.
01:15:38.000So like 10% from someone making 10 grand is only a thousand, but 10% from someone making a hundred is 10,000.
01:15:43.000So that means the rich people pay more, but everybody gets back one voucher.
01:15:47.000Then they choose the school they want to go to and they use the voucher as a equalized currency for specific services.
01:17:03.000So, it sounds great, this idea that we can give this service to someone, but there's so much in between that, like, if we just right now flipped, snapped our fingers and said, okay, it's all universal healthcare, then I think there's like four million jobs that get wiped out overnight.
01:17:19.000And even Bernie has talked about this.
01:17:35.000So I think it's a different system from, you know, I think that the the jobs are equivalent in a lot of ways or similar so that people would then move from the private insurance companies and then they would switch over to working those many jobs that would be created by that system to be a similar job.
01:17:52.000So the issue I have there is just, you know, telling Clarence, who's been working this job for, you know, private tech health for 20 years, you're fired.
01:18:02.000Don't worry, at some point a new job will emerge and then you'll figure it out.
01:18:06.000Well, that's why I think Bernie said it would be two years of pay for them because they believe it would take two years to get them retrained and moved into those new jobs.
01:18:15.000I just, I think that that ignores the human experience.
01:18:37.000That's different though, because those jobs are very different.
01:18:40.000So I think, well, no, I mean, well, to an extent, Yeah, absolutely.
01:18:44.000I think in the private health care industry, there's an overlap, but I still think they're going to be different jobs.
01:18:49.000You're not going to do the same kind of paperwork for the government you would do for a private corporation.
01:18:55.000And then we're also telling, you know, 4 million people or whatever that, sorry, your jobs are gone.
01:19:00.000You could tell them like in advance, like, hey, hey, Clarence, if you're working private insurance, your job is going to be gone within the next 10 years.
01:19:08.000I can't make you drink, but I'm leading you to the water.
01:19:11.000I think ultimately though, we should go back and say, I think Bernie's plan of abolishing private healthcare is nuts.
01:19:17.000We should absolutely have, if we do a universal system, private as well.
01:19:21.000And that's what every single other country has.
01:19:23.000So the way I envision it is there's like a base level care.
01:19:27.000You get the flu, you break a bone, certain ailments that doctors can save you, ready and available.
01:19:32.000And then you need private supplemental for the much more difficult-to-treat ailments that are too expensive and might overwhelm the system.
01:19:45.000So if you break your arm, you go to the doctor, they patch you up, have a nice day.
01:19:49.000I know a lot of them on the left don't like this idea because it means if you get an extremely rare type of cancer... Yeah, or just cancer.
01:20:02.000So everybody gets public insurance, like a Medicare for All system, but then if you want extra luxuries, like you want a private room at the hospital you don't want to share, you want four days of maternity rather than two, getting kicked out of the hospital after having a baby, things like that.
01:20:18.000And I think they even have a system where there are some fully private hospitals and doctors.
01:20:23.000Then maybe the private hospitals is the right way to go.
01:20:26.000It still creates a challenge though because you'll end up with still extreme envy and demands.
01:20:33.000Don't you think it'd be similar to just school?
01:20:35.000So right now you've got public school.
01:20:37.000All of us can put our kids into public school, but we also have the option to enrolling them in a perfectly, in a fully private school that we have to pay for.
01:20:44.000Because the cost of treating chronic health care can get, I think a lot of it's diet related.
01:20:49.000We have 60% obesity in the United States, I think, and that's by people, by their choice to continue to eat crap.
01:20:54.000So I don't want to fund or saddle people with debt of lazy, ignorant people that want to live in ignorance and poison themselves with food.
01:22:02.000Like, they don't have an incentive to go put out fires, or I would see firemen starting their own fires to get paid more.
01:22:07.000The doctors get paid a lot of money for selling things and giving the antibiotics companies want to force that, hey, we'll pay you to sell our products.
01:22:27.000You can just, I think we can enlighten people as private citizens too.
01:22:30.000But they're not going to make money unless the government gets involved and says, we incentivize you to have a healthy population of people.
01:22:37.000And that the healthier they are, we give you bonuses.
01:22:38.000What if there was some similar type of voucher system?
01:22:41.000I don't know how that would work with hospitals, but the general idea is everybody gets equal access to certain services, but there's still a kind of market exchange.
01:23:03.000I was going to say, I used to work at a hospital, literally in a hospital.
01:23:06.000And one of the things they did was they would incentivize you to Eat right, and to weigh the right amount, and to have the right cholesterol level.
01:23:16.000And they would give you a reduction in your health insurance costs.
01:23:39.000Ron Paul has this quote where he said something like, there's nothing stopping anyone from starting a socialist community or city or town.
01:23:46.000It's just that socialists want to take from you.
01:23:49.000And to step back a little bit, I saw that and I'm like, I understand he's going to talk about the socialists and say they're trying to take your stuff.
01:24:33.000And they're within the confines of a well-protected country.
01:24:37.000So I often say that I'm not personally a right libertarian, but I would prefer if we had to create a government out of anything, it would be more right libertarian because it means I can start my left libertarian society on my own and be left alone because no one's going to mess with me.
01:25:30.000So his idea was that if he offered enough money, he could get someone to make a deck.
01:25:35.000It's a game for those that aren't familiar.
01:25:36.000He could get a professional player to play in a certain way that was completely unheard of because he was like, I'll just pay you to do it.
01:26:38.000And then there was this really crazy punk rock anarchist looking guy who said that he was like, I'm a billionaire because I knew I could buy drugs on the internet with it.
01:26:46.000And it was pointing out how like early on, a lot of people who were buying Bitcoin were not like investors or like people running businesses.
01:26:53.000It was the people who were like, Ooh, I could use this.
01:28:00.000So the system that is destroying people with debt, unnecessary, I think at this point, the knowledge is on YouTube, for the most part, the knowledge is on the internet, and can be learned very quickly.
01:28:10.000Or at least just a medical school that's inexpensive.
01:28:17.000And the ones that we have are expensive.
01:28:19.000So we have to ask ourselves why school costs so much.
01:28:22.000I'm going to push the right button this time.
01:28:24.000And it is because the government subsidizes it.
01:28:26.000I firmly believe that if the government didn't give so much money to schools, because you're right, they will charge what the market will bear.
01:28:32.000And if the market bears this kind of government subsidy, I don't know.
01:28:50.000If you could do like a two year medical program and then take a bunch of tests and show like in person, like, yes, I can do the surgery on the thing.
01:29:59.000Yeah, but all I'm saying is that what you're, so you don't like the institution of university, fine, but you still have to have higher education somehow.
01:30:07.000Sure, but I mean, we have the internet.
01:30:10.000Yeah, but, you know, you've got to filter the quality of the information the person's going to get, right?
01:30:15.000I guess through taking the test, but then you're going to get a bunch of, like, Trump universities.
01:30:18.000Things that require a certification and tests, like being a doctor, you have to have college.
01:30:23.000There's got to be some regulation to that because you're literally working on people.
01:30:27.000As for engineering... You're building buildings and bridges and roads, you have to have... there's got to be some regulation on that, too.
01:30:33.000Yeah, but the filter there is government regulation and the corporations that are doing that work.
01:30:42.000So when I hire a carpenter to build something, I have no idea what their qualifications are.
01:30:55.000Yeah, but part of the education experience is the peer groups and learning from those peer groups and being able to bounce things off of and the competition within those peer groups.
01:31:05.000And those exist outside of universities.
01:31:06.000They don't exist as well, I don't think.
01:31:08.000And I think the competition... You're right, I think they're better.
01:31:10.000You're kind of paying for a mentorship.
01:31:12.000And they call it teachers now, and they stick 30 of you in a room.
01:31:15.000Back in the day, it was you and the mentor.
01:31:16.000And the mentor would give you, this is how you do it.
01:31:43.000And I was like, okay, I'm a high school dropout and I've already organized some massive shows that made that brought in tens of thousands of people.
01:31:49.000How do I have more experience in music business than you do?
01:31:51.000And you've been going for three years and dumping 30 something thousand dollars a year into this.
01:32:14.000And then I did an internship at a at a terrestrial radio station.
01:32:18.000through college, and that's how I got into the industry.
01:32:22.000From that point, no one has ever asked me about my college degree since I've had my career, but at least it got me in there.
01:32:28.000But I also think that for other fields in particular, is that the competition inside of the universities, when you are competing, like my last university, we were graded on a curve.
01:32:41.000So you're graded against, you know, you can't get an A unless you are the best student in that class.
01:32:46.000It's not about you just passed the test and got the information right.
01:32:49.000You got to show some level of like genius.
01:33:47.000And he said, his boss told him explicitly, like, we would have loved to have hired any, hired any of these college grads, but we just needed someone who knew how to do it.
01:33:53.000And the problem was their salary demands were too high because of their student loan debt.
01:33:56.000So that's what I think we have to correct.
01:33:58.000I don't think it has to be like, oh, we have to just get rid of college, because then I think we run the risk of reeling ourselves into a third world country with uneducated people.
01:34:06.000I think colleges are uneducating people.
01:35:26.000It's only the older guys that know it.
01:35:27.000We need these guys to come out of retirement, but the, all of those guys learn that same language.
01:35:31.000I mean, you could maybe create your own.
01:35:33.000And I know even when my dad was doing it, he created his own things here and there, but to create us something.
01:35:38.000That is cohesive across large corporations or large companies that could be utilized together, integrated.
01:35:45.000Everybody needed to have that same knowledge.
01:35:47.000And even now, they're struggling because they can't find people with that knowledge.
01:35:50.000I'm proficient in the Adobe suite, and I didn't go to school for it.
01:35:53.000And it's cross-company and cross-computer and cross-program, you know?
01:35:58.000But somebody created Adobe suite, and my guess is they went to college.
01:36:02.000It was technically, it was a bunch of different people who were creating a bunch of different programs that eventually got bought out by the Adobe Corporation, I guess.
01:36:09.000But there's also open source versions where communities just develop things by sharing free and open information.
01:36:24.000I'm thinking about like science and a lot of science you need you don't maybe don't need but like uniform like you're talking about uniform of uniformity of information so that they can like learn the language of science like all the equations that have led to the next equation up to the equations of all so they memorize this this language basically language you don't necessarily need a college but having an organized place where people can all go or to learn it all all the same thing so they can communicate But I still online hacker spaces physical act but you need
01:36:51.000people from all around the world to be able to I mean it could
01:36:54.000Be physical too. I think we need to bring people back to like apprenticeships and like I don't have a community and
01:36:59.000learning Yeah, I mean I do think we need to change the way higher
01:37:02.000education Is implemented and how it's viewed, you know change the the
01:37:07.000idea that oh it has to be through university But I still think we need higher education
01:37:11.000The age of automation on the way, the COVID lockdown causing all this unemployment, maybe it's the time for people to become mentors and to offer what they know to the younger generation.
01:37:21.000But see, and also, hey, look, the pandemic was a great, this is sort of my point, I don't think people learn as well.
01:37:28.000Unless they're with the group and they've got the competition, they've got the collaboration, they have people to talk to, they have peers groups.
01:37:34.000And now what we've seen online is people are not able to do it as well.
01:37:38.000But there's nothing saying universities need to be that.
01:37:42.000But I don't think you could just get rid... I mean, you're wanting to get rid of universities like some people want to get rid of private health insurance.
01:37:48.000I think that universities have become predatory systems that exploit young people.
01:37:52.000They send these 18-year-olds into a system with no idea what their major should be.
01:37:56.000I think around half of people change their major.
01:37:59.000And then they get settled with massive debt they can never pay off, which is a permanent indentured servitude which has nothing to benefit them.
01:38:23.000But I'm not saying abolish the idea of higher education.
01:38:26.000We can have universities, we just have to kind of purge and refresh them.
01:38:30.000And then I'm all for, like, everyone shows up to a university and you hang out and you have fun and you build things and you explore things.
01:38:37.000You're just trying to take away the fun.
01:40:16.000Well, it's a privilege of intelligence that others don't have.
01:40:20.000And you have the privilege of maybe certain sort of self, you know, the ability to just get something done because you put your mind to it or something.
01:40:27.000And others need the encouragement from others.
01:40:30.000Sorry, I don't know if you were telling me.
01:40:32.000Yeah, here I was like, you know, giving you compliments about being a genius and you're trying to stop me.
01:40:38.000You know, so I think that that is what you have to, not everybody can learn in the same environment.
01:40:57.000And not take, so if I didn't get this, yeah, I would.
01:40:59.000I feel like when I, when I'm telling young people don't go to school, what I'm really saying is I often say this, if your parents are paying for it, if you're rich, by all means, do what you want.
01:41:09.000It's the student loan system that's created.
01:41:11.000It is a predatory indentured servitude factory.
01:41:14.000I would say I would take him out again.
01:41:17.000I couldn't have gone to school without him.
01:41:18.000What did you need to go to school for?
01:42:24.000Rocky Tao says, I know someone in the Minneapolis PD who told me that the Chaz here has been around since the riot days, but more of a simple no-go zone for police.
01:42:33.000It's only getting media coverage now since we're nearing the Chauvin trial.
01:43:21.000I think the opposite a little bit, actually.
01:43:23.000Because a lot of these kids grew up after the 2008 crash, and suddenly their parents lost their homes, and they were told they couldn't have things, couldn't afford, you know, this, that, or the other.
01:44:12.000I was just going to say, that's how I learned as I watched my family have businesses.
01:44:16.000And I think that generational knowledge, we hear this talked about a lot on the left.
01:44:20.000And there is something to that, which is not just generational wealth, but the generational wealth is actually generational knowledge.
01:44:27.000What you learn from watching your parents, when they start a business, the heart, you know, I watched my dad have to, you know, we went through a lot of hardship in order to have him build that business, and we had to make a lot of sacrifices, and I watched it happen in order for it to grow, and I think that knowledge It's really important, but you don't get that except through that kind of apprenticeship sort of thing.
01:45:13.000And some people say, well, you should have read the contract.
01:45:15.000And I'm like, dude, an 18-year-old who has some 40-year-old predatory loan officer or whatever be like, trust me, kid, I'm here looking out for you.
01:46:14.000And I think it's absurd to think we're gonna take some kid, tell them they have to do this, because that's what they've been telling, they were screaming in my ears, you have to go to college, you have no choice.
01:46:22.000And I was like, nah, I ain't doing it.
01:46:23.000But they were like, here's all the loan money I'm taking out.
01:46:25.000And I'm like, I'm not gonna pay that back, are you nuts?
01:46:28.000Don't worry, we're gonna give you the money.
01:46:29.000I was like, wait, wait, you're gonna give me money?
01:46:32.000You know, my favorite thing ever was, I was like 16.
01:46:33.000I read an article from, I was a Clinton-era economist.
01:46:37.000And he said, if you go to any investor and tell them, I will give you, you know, you're going to invest $40,000 into a four-year investment.
01:46:49.000And after four years, you will owe $40,000 plus interest.
01:47:00.000If you had $40,000 in you, you know, what he basically said was, they did this chart where he said, if you are 18 and you go work at McDonald's, And after, you know, the average amount of time where a person sees a promotion to assistant manager is like X amount of months, your average hourly wage will go up to the average number, which is this for McDonald's.
01:47:16.000He was like, by the time you're 22 and your peers are graduating college, they'll have negative $40,000 plus interest and you will be a manager making $40,000 a year.
01:47:27.000By the time you're both 28, they will still be paying off their debt and the interest, and trying to find work experience, and you will now be making, you know, X amount of dollars with a savings of, you know, X. And he basically showed that a person who doesn't go to college without the debt has more net worth while they're younger.
01:47:46.000So the issue for me when I saw that was like, would I rather be a 24-year-old with a good salary enjoying my youth, or a 24-year-old settled with massive debt struggling to find a job and then hoping I could pay it off eventually?
01:47:56.000I'm going to enjoy being young and go skateboarding and play music.
01:47:58.000I was kind of like, what do I want to do with my life?
01:48:01.000My parents were like, you know, the money is not the important thing.
01:48:04.000I think the question should be when you're 50, what do you want your life to be like?
01:48:11.000Cabin made of twigs and fishing down by the river.
01:48:13.000Well, it's just that, you know, the math works out up until you're only a certain point, but then suddenly all the people in their 40s and 50s start to surpass.
01:48:21.000Well, they surpass those who didn't go to college, and they're the ones now living a good life with a retirement, and you're still hustling and bustling in a blue-collar job.
01:48:37.000What ends up happening is there's an assumption that people who go to college make more money and people who don't go to college make less money when the reality is people who are willing to do the work make more money.
01:48:50.000And so there's a tendency among, say, high school dropouts, for instance.
01:48:54.000They say, if you drop out of high school, you're not going to make any money.
01:48:56.000It's like, well, it's because people who drop out of high school are typically not doing it for work ethic related
01:49:32.000So what happens is you'll look at somebody who doesn't go to college and someone who does, and then see an average, where the reality is people who are willing to say, I'm gonna do four years of this work because I hope I can accomplish something, whereas the average person who's not gonna do it is not doing it because they're driven, they're doing it because they're not driven.
01:49:49.000So it's a drive factor versus a lack of drive factor.
01:49:51.000Now, if you're smart enough to avoid the system and find a way to gain experience outside of that, then you will absolutely make substantially more money.
01:49:59.000And in fact, college dropout billionaires make three times as much money as college graduate billionaires.
01:51:20.000I will also just give a quick shout out to, um, if you go to Tim cast.com and click
01:51:23.000shop, we have a shirt that says it's a diamond hands, gorilla shirt.
01:51:27.000It's a gorilla wearing sunglasses, smoking, holding wads of cash, and wearing a suit, because I guess there's a meme among the GameStop people about, you know, gorillas are stronger together or whatever, and I guess, so I decided, we had the gorilla shirt, I was like, let's put him in a suit and give him money, and like, make a, you know, thing, so check it out.
01:52:20.000Troy Dingman says, one of the biggest things the Founding Fathers screwed up on was not implementing a congressional dictionary to define what words mean in the content of the laws, so we would be able to refer back to it.
01:53:26.000The 13th Amendment needs to be reformed, in my opinion, because it allows slavery in the event that you're convicted of a crime, and I think that's wrong.
01:53:31.000I think slavery is wrong and just should not be in any capacity.
01:53:35.000I think our prison system is supposed to be rehabilitative, not retribution or punishment.
01:54:42.000If someone has like a, a gun tucked in their belt, like at a loaded pistol with the safety off and they're on the train and they're standing there with their hand up like, it's just asking for disaster.
01:56:14.000Tree of Liberty says, in 2005, we shot Skeet on the football field in high school.
01:56:19.000Also, my published philosophy professor called Tom McDonald an astute philosopher, then commented he was doing very valuable philosophical work.
01:56:55.000I never had found the help I desperately needed.
01:56:58.000Just got a little news on Johnson & Johnson.
01:57:00.000The majority shareholders, two of the top three, are the Vanguard Group and BlackRock, two of the largest investment firms in the world, along with State Street.
01:57:08.000They basically own 8% of every Apple, Microsoft, Pfizer, Johnson & Johnson.
01:57:32.000NOS says that they've been suicidal in the past, and they went for treatment for it.
01:57:37.000They did the equivalent of paying their debt to society.
01:57:39.000Treatment centers are abusive, by the way, but now they say they're mentally healthy, they want a gun, and they can't because of California.
01:58:04.000I knew someone that took a bunch of pills to die, but then it didn't kill them and they were glad it didn't kill them.
01:58:09.000But I think a shotgun probably would have got the job done and maybe they would have regretted it.
01:58:13.000Kim, they're enjoying that you're from California and pointing out the problems of California.
01:58:18.000WillYouTeachMe says, I love to see Californians complain.
01:58:21.000But I don't think it's fair because I think you're a smart and reasonable person, so pointing out the problems of what's going on and being critical of it is exactly what we need from California.
01:58:29.000LockDie says, you can make an AR-15 with a drill press from Amazon.
01:58:33.000The instructions exist online and has been for a very long time.
01:59:17.000But I think if they disagree with a guest or you, the answer is like, Hey Kim, I thought you were great.
01:59:20.000Thanks for coming on Tim's show and being willing to have an open dialogue.
01:59:23.000I'd like to discuss with you these ideas.
01:59:24.000I found this weird phenomenon where if you are saying something that is complex and other people don't understand it, they'll look at you and say, they're not making any sense.
01:59:35.000They're an idiot because they don't understand it.
01:59:38.000And so to not take as much of that stuff personally, usually.
01:59:41.000Well, I mean, I at this point can't take anything personal.
01:59:44.000But this one person in particular is getting mad saying that they didn't like my, this is what I'm confused about.
01:59:49.000Because he says he doesn't like my viewpoint on Second Amendment saying that I don't know anything, you know, here I am trying to take everybody's rights away.
01:59:55.000But I thought I made it really clear that I was as pro Second Amendment almost at one point an extremist on it.
02:00:02.000Where I was like, I want to have a nuke if the government can have a nuke.
02:00:05.000And so I'm not one who is for taking away weapons of any kind.
02:00:09.000So it's kind of a funny, like, to get mad.
02:00:11.000What was it exactly that made them believe I want to take rights away?
02:00:15.000And I'll clarify, too, if, like, I don't want everyone in New York to be having a gun.
02:00:45.000If we buy a plot of land and make our own, like, Timsville or whatever, everybody needs to be armed because a well-regulated militia is required for the survival of our free state.
02:00:54.000Is it gonna be like Hunger Games or something?
02:00:56.000No, it's gonna be like, you know, if a bear shows up.
02:01:31.000We're just paying America for security, defense, access, roads.
02:01:35.000And so it's just our nation is supplying, you know, a payment, a percentage of our GDP, like all these other countries are supposed to be doing for NATO.
02:02:56.000Riley Luan says, Tim, huge problem with even a progressive tax.
02:02:59.000When rich get taxed, they offset by increasing price of their product, making us pay the tax.
02:03:05.000True to a certain extent, it's not so simple to say that because there's a limit to what people are willing to pay for certain products.
02:03:11.000It may drive inflation for sure for that reason, but it's tough.
02:03:16.000I like the idea of the progressive tax for the reasons stated, but ultimately I think it won't work because giving the government money doesn't solve the problem.
02:03:29.000You see, Evil Black Cat says, it's amazing listening to this.
02:03:33.000While all of you seem to recognize the core problem is the government having all the power, you keep mentally evading it while advocating for more government power.
02:04:11.000We just have a government that's not representative of the people right now, but if it were representative of the people, then it wouldn't be such a problem of them having power, because it would be the people having power, right?
02:04:20.000Zanzibar says, statists that complain about morodes are anti-capitalist.
02:04:25.000We were supposed to have flying cars by now, and it's those people keeping us grounded.
02:04:29.000Follow Zanzibar underscore Daleks and happy belated birthday, Tim. Thank you very much.
02:04:33.000Anthony Hamilton says, Tim, thank you for being real.
02:04:36.000Can you please look into Massachusetts?
02:04:38.000We are just playing follow the leader and nothing is wrong.
02:06:15.000Especially for government-backed student loans, that's exactly how it should be.
02:06:18.000Now, private loan, maybe they can get away with something, but... Superman, if he wasn't scared of green rocks, says, Tim, can you wish Stacey Herbert happy birthday and give a shout-out to the Orange Pill YouTube channel?
02:06:28.000You talking about Max Keiser is the reason why I got into Bitcoin.
02:06:32.000Stacey, happy birthday, and shout-out to Stacey and Max and the Orange Pill podcast.
02:06:37.000If you guys want to learn about Bitcoin, And you want to stop being poor, then you should definitely check out Max's podcast, the Orange Pill podcast.
02:07:01.000There was a point where I guess there's like a story about how Max gave Alex Jones like 10,000 Bitcoin or something and then Alex lost it because people didn't listen.
02:07:08.000They didn't believe him and he was right the whole time.
02:07:20.000I wish back then when Max was yelling about buying Bitcoin, I just did it and I didn't and I didn't and I've known the guy for a long time and it's like, Man, if I had a time machine, if I could send a message back in time, send it to the man, buy a thousand Bitcoin, just do it.
02:07:33.000Maybe you're just talking to yourself in modern day.
02:07:35.000Maybe you're receiving the message right now, buy Bitcoin.
02:07:47.000You should know it's not what you know, it's who you know.
02:07:49.000Oh yeah, in Chicago, in many of these blue places, these states, you can get a gun if you got the right connections.
02:07:57.000The connection to Gary, Indiana, right?
02:08:00.000No, like if you want to legally own a gun and walk around Chicago, then just if you know the right people, they can get you through that process.
02:08:07.000So what ends up happening is wealthy individuals and celebrities in like these certain states, these blue states like New Jersey, like, you know, Illinois or Maryland or California, if you have access, Yeah, you can easily get a gun.
02:08:19.000They just shuffle your request to the front of the paperwork.
02:08:35.000Your constitutional rights are meaningless, pleb.
02:08:39.000Turtleburger says, I don't think you should be able to take out a student loan amount for more than one year's average starting pay of that degree.
02:08:44.000I think that would make people choose more carefully and bring down tuition.
02:08:49.000Or maybe, I don't know, people have to get jobs while they're in school and they can't take out the loans for the full cost of tuition, or we need to stop guaranteeing it so that the price of schools go down.
02:08:59.000Some degrees, they don't let you get a job.
02:09:39.000Yeah, I was, and I also had, you know, I was very establishment, I think, in my viewpoints in the beginning, like a while ago before I really started researching.
02:09:47.000No, like, I would say when, in 2016 even, you know, I was more progressive.
02:09:53.000I liked Bernie Sanders, but I think I just kind of fell into the establishment narrative.
02:09:58.000But then the more research I did, I was like, oh my gosh, the establishment is such a problem.
02:10:01.000And with Trump, I think I started with Trump derangement syndrome.
02:10:04.000But then through time, I found myself having to defend him over and over again, which really upset a lot of my viewers.
02:10:12.000But it was because the left had gone so deranged on him.
02:10:16.000And then I think as I started to defend him, I almost had sympathy for him, right?
02:10:20.000Because I'd be like, they're just making stuff up.
02:10:24.000And so really, I just saw a guy that You know, I don't hate him and I don't love him, but I did think that he would have been better than Biden getting in office.
02:11:50.000All right, my friends, we are going to have a crazy spacey conversation about like tarot or like astrology and like the secrets of my, I want to learn the secrets of how I'm an ace of spades and how that gives me psychic powers.
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