On this episode of the podcast, we're joined by author and homesteader, Travis Corcoran, to talk about why we don't like cities and why we should live in the country. We also talk about the recent anti-vaccination protests in France and Australia, and why you should live on the farm.
00:00:20.000A vaccination center was set on fire and several others were vandalized because Emmanuel Macron has introduced a law that if you cannot prove you are vaccinated, you will get up to six months in prison.
00:00:33.000If you run an establishment open to the public and you do not have, if you are not checking people, if they're vaccinated, you will get up to a year in prison.
00:00:43.000Well, naturally, people are not happy with this.
00:00:45.000And I talked about this earlier on my other channel, but this is... Well, COVID cases are on the rise basically everywhere.
00:00:52.000People are scared of the Delta variant, and now we're seeing draconian measures, like in France.
00:00:57.000Over in Australia, we're getting mixed signals, I suppose.
00:01:01.000Katie Hopkins has been deported, because apparently she broke quarantine or something like that.
00:01:05.000And a bunch of other celebrities have come in and been given special leeway and special access, but I'm not super concerned necessarily about the double standard at this point, because we know that exists.
00:01:15.000I suppose I'm more concerned about with whether or not the rise in COVID cases, the Delta variant, is going to result in more lockdowns, which Joe Biden says, well, it's not off the table.
00:01:23.000So we'll talk about this, and we're going to talk a lot about, I guess, why we don't like cities.
00:01:28.000And we're being joined by a homesteader and author, Travis Corcoran.
00:01:32.000Do you want to introduce yourself real quick?
00:01:35.000So I am a homesteader and I am an author.
00:01:37.000My day job is, you know, 50 hours a week as a software engineer.
00:01:42.000And, you know, homesteading is something that, on the one hand, I do on the weekends.
00:01:45.000That's when I'm out fixing the tractor and planting the pumpkins and butchering the pigs and all that sort of stuff.
00:01:49.000But it also impacts one's entire life, sort of Monday through Friday, in that, you know, my wife and I talk a lot about how we really love the fact that, you know, 50% of our food comes right off the farm and every morning the bacon is from our pigs.
00:02:01.000Can you pull your mic up a little bit?
00:02:03.000And, you know, the eggs are from there and, you know, when we make whatever, even tacos, that's, you know, coming from beef that I've processed.
00:02:11.000And then there's also a lot of resiliency to living on a homestead, which ties into the whole COVID thing.
00:02:16.000And, you know, this is, I'm here to some degree to talk about some books that I've written, Escape the City Volumes 1 and 2.
00:02:23.000And the timing was perfect on this because when COVID hit, you know, a whole lot of people in the cities, their lifestyles just, you know, turned terrible.
00:02:31.000And there's obviously the whole real estate realignment that's going on right now where real estate prices are absolutely crashing in every city core.
00:02:38.000And you're seeing, you know, huge price run ups in other places as, you know, half the country redistributes where it wants to live.
00:03:23.000Yeah, I was out in the woods over the weekend, I think it was over the weekend, picking some wineberries, and man, I was getting scratched up by the brambles, getting my hair caught in the twigs, and it felt great!
00:03:51.000So wine berries are a local, well actually they're not local, they're an invasive Asian variant of raspberries and they're everywhere in Appalachia.
00:03:59.000So you drive down the road and you see red berries everywhere.
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00:05:32.000Now, let's read this first story and talk about what's going on.
00:05:37.000Australia sends mixed signals on who is permitted to enter the country, deports Katie Hopkins.
00:05:44.000They say despite permitting the arrival of celebrities... Come on, Tim Kast, get a copy editor.
00:05:49.000The government has not brought home 40,000 Australians.
00:05:52.000Now the article basically goes on to mention that there are many celebrities flying in like, you know, you've got to what they say Nicole Kidman flew in, you have Lachlan Murdoch and Keith Urban were among the elite group have been allowed to travel back to the country via private plane.
00:06:06.000They were also permitted to quarantine at their private homes.
00:06:10.000They go on to mention that British commentator Katie Hopkins, who was also in Australia to film Big Brother, was deported for comments she made online about breaking the country's quarantine regulations.
00:06:23.000So we've seen a lot of this lockdown stuff going on, and now basically the story is Australia is prolonging its COVID-19 lockdown in Victoria amid the Delta outbreak.
00:06:32.000So this is the excuse by which they're saying everyone's got to quarantine again if you're flying into the country.
00:06:44.000Are you familiar with the Great Reset?
00:06:46.000It's awfully fortuitous, I suppose, for those who are fans of the Great Reset and those who have advocated for it, that we can't travel to places anymore.
00:06:55.000That people are deported if they, you know, they break quarantine.
00:07:20.000You know, I've got some thoughts about the current month in the current year, but we were talking before the show rolled about, you know, I think the world is changing in a really fundamental and big way and the kind of thing that you don't see every year.
00:07:30.000I mean, sure, things change, you know, one year and the next.
00:07:33.000But, you know, I think that every 500 years or so, things really, really change.
00:07:37.000And we saw that, you know, Around 500 years ago with the invention of the printing press, which led to the rise of Protestantism and religious wars, and then eventually the Westphalian nation-states coming up and replacing feudalism.
00:07:49.000And, you know, I think the internet and the new modes of communication technology right now are, you know, and this isn't a story from like last year or two years, it's, you know, 30 years, 50 years, but the world is really changing fundamentally, and I think we're going to see changes at about the same scale.
00:08:02.000So I think that people are escaping the cities right now, and that's going to accelerate over the coming years.
00:08:07.000But that's just one component of a much bigger change in currency and lifestyles and economies and how states and people are organized on the planet.
00:08:22.000Well, you know, there's intention out there and there's emergent stuff.
00:08:26.000I don't think that the elites who are pushing the Great Reset and the whole, you know, live in the pod, eat the bugs, want people to escape the cities.
00:08:33.000You know, they're saying, hey, you know, our system is already 80% along and we just need to tune it a little more.
00:08:38.000We need, you know, more green energy, even though windmills are sort of a terrible technology and nuclear is much better.
00:09:24.000So I think your question was, was this intentional to get people to flee the cities?
00:09:28.000And I think what's intentional is the Great Reset, the whole endless propaganda about how eating bugs and your lifestyle is going to be different, and you're not going to own anything, you're going to rent everything.
00:09:38.000And, you know, I think that a lot of that is intentional, but I think that we're, to some degree, seeing the last gasp of the current system.
00:09:45.000Sort of like, you know, the Soviets around 1985.
00:09:47.000The current elites have run out of any energy.
00:09:52.000I mean, the Soviets motivated their people, you know, it was a terrible system, but there was actual grassroots enthusiasm.
00:09:59.000When you bring rural electrification to people, you know, they're going to like that even if you're doing other terrible things.
00:10:03.000When you educate the sons of dirt farmers, they're going to like that.
00:10:07.000And so the Soviets had some innate momentum for decades and then eventually they just played out everything they could do and then you know they're talking about the 18th five-year plan and you know 1986 or something and everyone knew it was a joke and the Soviets in the system said you know they pretend to pay us and we pretend to work And I think that, you know, the last bastion of centrally planned communism is, you know, here in the West.
00:10:33.000I mean... I'm joking a little bit, making a reference to sort of Mencius Moldbug, Curtis Yarvin stuff.
00:10:38.000But no, but you mean to say, like, the current system we're under, everybody knows it's a joke, and I think... Exactly, and that's where I was going.
00:10:45.000You know, You know, we've got, and don't worry I know what one can say and not say, but we've got a Democratic Party.
00:10:54.000The Republican Party ceased to be able to put forward any candidates of its own sort of ideology and the Democratic Party has sort of entirely run out of steam where they're putting forward these candidates who It's inevitable because it's their time and you get these, you know, sort of absolute laughingstocks.
00:11:19.000But this is the last gasp of the system, you know, and so they pretend to have a president and, you know, we pretend to respect the system.
00:11:37.000You know, there is a presidential administration.
00:11:40.000Joe Biden is fumbling, bumbling Joe, trying to not shop at a pressure, bad at cath care.
00:11:45.000And, you know, one thing that I've brought up on the show frequently is that when he speaks, it's very obvious he's not talking to half the country.
00:11:52.000When he makes references to COVID, when he makes references to law, They've basically cut off in terms of their, there was a point where they were like, you know, we want to try and make sure we're getting to the other side to win those votes.
00:12:33.000I was computer science, but also Roman history.
00:12:35.000And one of my professors, I think Barry Strauss, had a wonderful last lecture in the semester one year.
00:12:42.000And, you know, he was talking about the parallels between the Roman system and the American system.
00:12:47.000And, you know, he said a few things that, you know, every country ends eventually, but also its forms linger on after the reality of it has died.
00:12:56.000And, you know, a lot of people, you know, sort of red-grey tribe will say, you know, you know, America's gone so far off the rails, but we'll get it back.
00:13:04.000And I'm like, you know, dude, I think America ended somewhere between 10 and 50 years ago.
00:13:08.000And right now, you know, we still have the form of it.
00:13:10.000Some people argue it ended with the Federal Reserve.
00:13:12.000I think that's, you know, I don't particularly have the Federal Reserve bug.
00:13:33.000And there's another argument to go further back than Abraham Lincoln.
00:13:36.000And, you know, even if freeing the slaves was a wonderful ideal, it's interesting how every other country on the planet managed to free its slaves without having a war and killing 3% of its population.
00:14:09.000You know, and, and the United States is an example of that, but I'm, you know, We talk about, you know, we're this exemplar for all mankind of this wonderful free society where anybody can do anything, you know, as long as it's in the properly approved narrow set of things that are good and free, not, you know, terrible bad things like, you know, going to church and having old-fashioned ideas or owning firearms or anything.
00:14:29.000And yet we have this crazy system where Members of both parties sort of support this imperial war mongering
00:14:36.000system where we're fighting and you know 30 or 40 different countries
00:14:39.000So we've got this representative government and all these freedoms at home to some degree while simultaneously we
00:14:55.000We have this effect of war on anyone we want to and there's no checks and balances and there's no civil rights
00:14:59.000It's crazy to me how at a certain point the United States the the politicians stopped actually
00:15:05.000and Implementing policy in this country, and it was actually an argument over what we should be doing overseas, right?
00:15:10.000And we had a long period of that from my mind look I can't argue for about what happened before I was born But I thought most of my life was just a whole lot of arguing about we're gonna do to other people elsewhere And I long complained.
00:15:21.000I'm like everybody's coming out talking about these pipes in Flint which which now I believe are fixed But I'm like how much money did we spend in Afghanistan building roads and building schools, right?
00:15:29.000So it's weird to me that the answer to a lot of what the left was complaining about was simply that we focus on America first, which is controversial, I guess, for some strange reason.
00:15:38.000But I want to go back to this point about, you know, Katie Hopkins and Australia, because you mentioned there might not be a union.
00:15:44.000And so I'm wondering if these countries are effectively shutting their borders off, they're making it much, much more difficult for anyone to come in.
00:15:52.000What is it going to look like if the United States Isn't even going to be a union, but then it's already hard
00:15:58.000enough for people to travel. It feels like everybody is becoming more isolationist
00:16:01.000You know, so there's an interesting thing where things are getting physically more isolated, you know in the physical
00:16:08.000At the same time that distance is becoming less important This is the whole sort of lexus and the olive tree thesis
00:16:13.000that you know The world is getting flat and you know
00:16:16.000You can source parts from wherever and you can you know, I work for a startup that doesn't have a physical location
00:16:22.000We're decentralized and we've got people, you know, all the way from Italy over to Japan.
00:16:25.000So we've just got this sort of weird rolling 20-hour clock.
00:16:30.000But, you know, this gets to what I was saying earlier about, you know, every 500 years or so maybe there's a deep fundamental change in how society is structured.
00:16:37.000Now, getting to COVID, I think that this is a short-term problem.
00:16:40.000There's You know, we sequenced COVID-19 in very short order and we came up with an immunization for it in, you know, 48 hours.
00:16:48.000And the only thing that stood in the way was the old, you know, nation states and the FDA and the CDC, you know, doing things like taking four-day weekends during the emergency where you can count the number of people dying per day.
00:17:01.000But they're so entrenched in the sort of 1970s Soviet bureaucratic thing of, oh, we've all got to get out to our dachas.
00:17:08.000You can't expect us to work and save lives.
00:17:11.000So I think that's proof that the system is absolutely exhausted and it's just ready for people to stop believing it.
00:17:17.000When you look at the sheer tribalism, you know, like I mentioned, and many people have mentioned, Joe Biden seems to only be talking to one side of the country at this point, because they've basically resigned themselves.
00:17:28.000I mean, the tribalism has reached absolutely absurd levels.
00:17:33.000You know, it's like that right now that people are circulating these old tweets from 2020 of Kamala Harris and like Daily Kos writing about vaccine skepticism.
00:17:42.000And they're saying like, who would take Trump's vaccine?
00:17:44.000And now they're the ones screaming like, why won't Trump supporters take the bench?
00:17:50.000I gotta say, you know, perhaps I'm just biased, but I think it is fair to say that it is the rule for the establishment left, but the exception for the right in general.
00:18:02.000So leftists kind of overlap with a lot of the establishment Democrats.
00:18:06.000But you look at, you mentioned the Republican Party and their, you know, forever war kind of stuff too.
00:18:10.000I want to make clear that I don't think that's just the Republicans.
00:18:12.000I mean, both parties love them forever.
00:18:14.000But I will say, like, I think as another sign of the collapse or the decay or the change, whatever you want to call it, is Donald Trump's storming into the Republican Party and forcing dramatic changes.
00:18:25.000And he couldn't have done that in 1980 or 1984.
00:18:29.000One man with a bunch of bombast can't knock over a healthy system.
00:18:33.000But the Trump supporters... I don't know if you... Did you hear what Michael Moore said back in 2016?
00:18:49.000He goes to these auto manufacturers and said, I will tariff you 30% if you try and move these cars out of America.
00:18:54.000I know, yeah, it felt good for a lot of people for a while.
00:18:57.000So I think that's one of the big changes to the Republican Party.
00:19:00.000And they are going to send the biggest F you to the establishment the world has ever heard and they are going
00:19:04.000to enjoy it The one thing he got wrong was he was like it'll feel good
00:19:07.000for a week I know yeah, I felt good for a lot of people for a while
00:19:13.000So I think that's one of the big changes the Republican Party
00:19:16.000But I think you know, so just to address that point on the left. Do you have many people who are?
00:19:22.000It's it's crazy how they can't remember what they said last year
00:19:27.000You know, I started flipping back through 1984 recently, and everyone's read 1984, and there's a problem with reading things.
00:19:34.000You tend to boil them down to an essence or a logo or something, and things in the world, books, novels, people, have a whole lot of complexity.
00:19:44.000To actually go back and look at 1984, it's not just sort of a stand-in or a stereotype or a glyph that stands for repressive totalitarianism.
00:20:03.000You know, last year, you know, I was one of these internet autists who was paying attention to China in very, very early January, and I think it was late January, When, you know, I started tweeting my 10,000, you know, I'm talking to Tim Pool about I've got 10,000 followers on Twitter.
00:20:18.000But I said, you know, guys, now is the time to start packing, stockpiling stuff.
00:20:44.000I think it was either Ezra Klein, or if it wasn't Ezra Klein, it was one of the other Ezra Kleins, was absolutely poo-pooing this idea of, you know, masks do nothing, and even if they do anything, you should leave it for the professionals.
00:20:53.000There's no reason to have a mask, and the fear that you'll generate, that's the real danger.
00:20:57.000And then they all pivot on a dime when, you know, the new line comes down from the, you know, there used to be journo-list, if you're familiar with that, you know, 10 or whatever.
00:21:21.000It was a Facebook group where all of these different journalists from different organizations were on one community group together.
00:21:29.000So one person would come in and say, X happened, and then every single journalist in this group would see it.
00:21:35.000So they were all wrapped up in the exact same bubble narrative.
00:21:39.000Completely oblivious to the outside world.
00:21:40.000There's a wonderful video on YouTube that shows some people on a cable channel reading out a prepared statement and like every five seconds it switches to a different cable channel and the statement continues seamlessly because this was literally a memo that came down from corporate and they wanted every local affiliate to do it.
00:21:57.000Journalist was effectively the same thing but there wasn't a corporation at the top there was just this little plate or file or hive of journalists and they had Tamara's bullet points every day.
00:22:07.000What people don't realize about that is there wasn't one journal list.
00:22:17.000There was one that was about, it was like citizen journalist centric.
00:22:21.000So it was basically 10 or 20,000 people with several who were very active and many who just followed.
00:22:28.000And they would post things and they would all see it.
00:22:29.000And then sure enough, these articles pop up everywhere.
00:22:32.000But I do want to, with that being said, go back to the point you were making about, you know, it's time to prepare, it's time to buy supplies.
00:22:39.000Because early on last year, you know, one of the sponsors we often do is for a food bucket, Safe and Ready Meals.
00:22:47.000This is not, I'm not promoting them, I'm just mentioning that we have promoted them in the past.
00:22:51.000And this is like a 25-year food bucket.
00:23:25.000You know, there's sort of the 80-20 rule or the power law in that, you know, I probably cut my fingertips or something every, you know, two weeks or so.
00:24:55.000Put some chicken in there and some spices.
00:24:57.000And I've absolutely done the same thing, not recently, but I've had a pile, one or two boxes of MREs sitting around the house forever since shortly after I got out of college.
00:25:06.000And every now and then you'd be sort of working late and suddenly it's 10 o'clock and there's no food in the fridge and there's no takeout.
00:25:13.000I've eaten an MRE at 10.30 in the evening more than once.
00:25:45.000You know, I think I ended up picking this up from an interstitial essay in a book of John Barnes' short stories like 30 years ago.
00:25:54.000And the idea is that there's a bunch of different ways, sort of sinusoids, and some have four-year cycles, another 12.
00:26:00.000And, you know, at some point, if you've ever, you know, taken calculus or done a Fourier, you know, decomposition of something, You get a whole bunch of curves and they start to peak up at certain points.
00:26:09.000And, you know, the theory is that all of these curves are going to peak, you know, sometime way off in the far future like 2025 or something.
00:26:18.000And, you know, this theory was written down in the 70s or 80s.
00:26:21.000And I think we're seeing a lot of it come true.
00:28:13.000So anyway, my thoughts about prepping are there's a power law in that absolute huge catastrophic things happen very, very rarely, but sort of very small annoyances happen more often.
00:28:24.000So if someone says, you know, I want to be prepared, what should I do?
00:28:26.000Should I get a zombie hunter extreme machete?
00:28:29.000Should I get a long range sniper rifle?
00:28:31.000I'm like, you know, maybe you should get $500 in the checking account because You know, people get laid off, like, once every five years.
00:28:37.000So you're going to be laid off from your job, you know, in the next five years, certainly in the next ten years.
00:28:42.000So lock down how you're going to survive that without, you know, losing your lifestyle.
00:28:47.000You know, people lose their power once every ten or fifteen years.
00:28:51.000You get a $500 generator, a $300 transfer switch.
00:28:55.000But then you keep going out on these things, and they're less and less frequent, but the chance, you know, hopefully we'll all live to be 70 or 80 or 90, and a thing that only happens once every 15 years, that's going to happen to you several times in your life.
00:29:07.000And we in the West, we've been, you know, rich and protected by oceans, and so we've been very, you know, blessed, and we've not had a lot of the bad stuff that normal people have at the same rate that they have it.
00:29:16.000But I wrote this book starting several years ago and one thing I said is,
00:29:19.000hey, we get plagues about once every hundred years. We had the Spanish flu in 1918 and I
00:29:24.000went back several other plagues. So you should be prepared because there's a decent chance
00:29:27.000there'll be a plague in your lifetime. Do you hear about this? This story happened
00:29:32.000There was an algal bloom in the Great Lakes.
00:29:34.000And within 40- which- is Toledo on the lake?
00:29:47.000Because what happened was as soon as the news broke, as soon as people found out, they immediately started raiding local stores for bottled water and moving further and further out to get more and more water.
00:30:29.000Because if it does go down, I want to provide it for the neighbors.
00:30:33.000I want the entire community to be preserved as much as possible so we can barter.
00:30:37.000So that if they have all the ammo, If they have, you know, whatever, we can all kind of come together, and those things become extremely valuable.
00:30:43.000Ian bought an absurd amount of salt, vinegar, and honey.
00:31:31.000Yeah. Is salt naturally occurring or, you know, you know,
00:31:35.000if there was a disaster or something and you had to
00:31:37.000improvise, I would go with road But other than that, you know, you're going to be trading people who are, you know, bringing in salt from the ocean.
00:31:44.000Salt was the currency at one point, five, six thousand years ago.
00:31:49.000I was thinking about this earlier because we bought some deer salt licks.
00:31:52.000You just, you know, chuck them out and leave on them or something.
00:32:56.000But they can't subsist off of grass, right?
00:32:59.000You know, chickens will get a lot of their calories from bugs and worms.
00:33:03.000And so we've got our chickens in a pen, but there's a thing that a lot of people do, which is a chicken tractor.
00:33:08.000And that has nothing to do with a diesel-powered tractor.
00:33:10.000It's basically a mobile pen with wheels on it.
00:33:13.000And the idea is that you put your chickens in this pen, and then you just go out, and either with your riding mower or your tractor, or just by hand, You move it 10 or 15 feet a day.
00:33:22.000People have recommended it, and I've heard that people will put it over where they want to farm, let the chickens tear it up, then move it, and then they can plant stuff in it, and they fertilize it.
00:33:31.000So I've got a thought about this, and this is something I go into my book.
00:33:38.000I don't have pigs this year, but in general I have pigs like every other year.
00:33:41.000But people sometimes want to say, oh man, you know, and this is sort of like after a deep bong hit, you know, the system, you know, nature gives you everything you need, man.
00:33:49.000The pigs will furrow, you know, they'll turn up the soil for you so you don't need to till.
00:33:54.000And there's a little bit of truth here, but there's a whole lot more wishful thinking.
00:33:57.000And I've never seen anyone who says that pigs will till your soil who actually have their own pigs.
00:34:39.000So, you know, first of all, I don't want to really be certain about this.
00:34:42.000I always find people who are absolutely certain to be a little, you know, I've got a head-scratching attitude about that, that, you know, I don't know, man, you haven't seen the future.
00:34:49.000But I think the interesting thing about information technology, whether we're talking about the Gutenberg Press or whether we're talking about, you know, TCPIP or Twitter or whatever, is that it connects people who are further and further apart with lower and lower latency.
00:35:02.000So if you want to look at, like, 1776, you know, people in different towns in Massachusetts had a lot more in common with each other than they had with people back in, you know, Wales or, you know, various parts of England, because they could only communicate with a few letters, you know, with a latency of six months or so.
00:35:17.000And so that made it very easy for the regions to sort of grow apart and have their own political cultures.
00:35:23.000And the weird thing about the high-speed connection we have is that we have, you know, two tribes, obviously red and blue, but then a lot more tribes, you know, if you go to, you know, some furry fandom thing.
00:35:34.000You know, you pick anything, whether it's, you know, Mustang engine, you know, modification community, or whether it's Yeah, you'll find that these tribes are geographically distributed.
00:35:46.000So I think that we might be headed to a world where the Westphalian nation state, where all of the nations have crisp little borders around them, is perhaps fading and we're going to a new world where the tribes are interleaved and distributed across and on top of each other.
00:35:59.000I've been thinking a lot about that dissolution of the nation-state since about 2006.
00:36:02.000Really, since Internet video, when I realized how powerful and connected we are now with video chat.
00:36:06.000Like, how do you see it happening without a... Because the downside was I don't want a one-world government that's totalitarian.
00:36:25.000You know, if you go back to the medieval period, there was this interesting thing where There was less of a crisp boundary in the Westphalian sense.
00:36:33.000You might have somebody who was a, you know, the example I said before the show started, is you can imagine that there was someone, you know, peddling out on the street and the guards come up and say, hey, it's Sunday, you can't sell stuff.
00:36:44.000And he, you know, holds up his warrant and he says, you know, actually I'm a Jew, so I'm, you know, bound by different... Doctrine?
00:37:21.000I mean, you, you look at the, the racial identitarianism from the establishment in this country and it really does look like that's where we're going.
00:37:28.000I mean, you know, right now we're already in that, you know, one person at Harvard, uh, is under a different law than someone else, depending on, you know, his skin color, um, you know, his admission there, the behavioral norms that's expected and everything else.
00:37:38.000Or, actually, you can't even get into Harvard if you're Asian, for the most part.
00:37:42.000Different rules just based on what you look like.
00:37:45.000And, you know, there's little hints of that, that, you know, if someone is from overseas and they've got diplomatic plates, we're here, you know, not too far from D.C., and I saw that.
00:37:53.000So I think that polycentric law overlapping in the same geographic location is something that has happened before in the Middle Ages, and I think it could happen again.
00:38:04.000And this ties into, we were talking about anarcho-capitalism, and one of the sort of leading luminaries of anarcho-capitalism is David Friedman, the son of Milton Friedman.
00:38:13.000And he's written a bunch of great books on the topic.
00:38:15.000The seminal one is The Machinery of Freedom, which was one of the books that, along with Robert Heinlein's The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, really sort of created my worldview.
00:38:24.000But he's written some other good ones.
00:38:26.000Law's Order, and one I wrote a few months ago, was Legal Systems Very Different from Our Own.
00:38:32.000We'll see what happens over the coming decades.
00:38:33.000I could see like an augmented reality system where when you look around, people have like a different aura if they're under different jurisdiction law or something.
00:38:41.000But my wonder is, what if the power goes out?
00:39:08.000You know, in investing, some people talk about a barbell strategy where you want to have a lot of your money in sort of safe, reasonable things like index funds, but you also want to have a small amount and really potential high payoff bets.
00:39:20.000You know, this is the venture capital model.
00:39:22.000and politically looking towards the future on the one hand you know sort of
00:39:26.000I hope for everyone has you know human rights and the power grid stays up and
00:39:30.000the food supplies are good but I also have sheep that I can eat my own orchard
00:39:34.000and I can make my own wine in case it goes bad. We got to get off the grid the
00:39:38.000central so we're getting off a centralized economy centralized law
00:39:40.000centralized electricity it's got to be. So let's let's you know a lot about Rome.
00:39:54.000And then you end up with their own political cultures.
00:39:56.000And then you mentioned now we're in this new era of technology.
00:39:59.000It's going to be really interesting, in my opinion, just to elaborate on that idea, when you have one faction of people, maybe it's a family, and they're anarcho-capitalists.
00:40:09.000And they're online communicating with the anarcho-capitalist community.
00:40:48.000Someone else might subscribe to a legal system that has a English right to roam.
00:40:53.000And then we, in England, apparently, if you've got a certain amount of land, you can't keep people off it.
00:40:58.000They're allowed to just walk right across as the sort of traditional right of the Englishman.
00:41:02.000So what happens when these, you know, things come in conflict?
00:41:05.000Like, one guy says, I've got an absolute right to walk across your backyard, and you say, I've got an absolute right to keep you out.
00:41:10.000And, you know, theoretically, someone who wanted to diss on anarcho-capitalism would say, well, you know, then of course you'd get a gun battle, and that's why anarcho-capitalism is the worst possible political ideology in the world.
00:41:21.000But, you know, in the real world when corporations run into things like, you know, you've stolen
00:41:25.000my intellectual property because I think that my patent on, you know, how resistors work
00:41:36.000We you know, we just hire lawyers and they settle it.
00:41:39.000So I think that that would happen now.
00:41:42.000Now, the next parody is, OK, Travis is arguing that any time two people have a disagreement about trespassing in a garden, like, is there an easement or is there not, then there's a $90,000 lawsuit that takes three years.
00:41:53.000And I think there's game theory where when something is iterated, there is not a need
00:41:59.000to hash it out time and time and time again.
00:42:01.000Both sides see, you know, really a negotiated solution here and some rules of the road make
00:42:45.000We talked about the wacky laws recently, where you've got some places where it's like you can't take a shower on Tuesdays.
00:42:51.000And it actually made sense because back in the day, the local aquifer was like, you know, we, like they said, we have to have one day where nobody uses water so it can replenish a little bit.
00:43:02.000So we produce these laws based on the specifics that are happening in our areas.
00:43:06.000So you have a community and they build a culture.
00:43:09.000They build rules and laws with, for each other, by each other, and sometimes in disagreement with each other, but understanding the problem.
00:43:18.000You can't have picnic baskets lying around wherever.
00:43:21.000Well, now you've got somebody who's on the internet, and he does not subscribe to any of his immediate community.
00:43:27.000When they go outside, they're clashing, and one guy's on nothing but socialist forums, and one guy's on nothing but, you know, ANCAP forums, and so they're completely at odds locally.
00:43:36.000I don't necessarily think that they would just agree to resolve the solution because the resolution itself is part of the local community and culture and law.
00:43:44.000That's a great argument, and I follow it, and it's convincing.
00:43:48.000So now, the great thing about pontificating while sitting on my butt is I can say, OK, if you didn't like that answer, I've got another one.
00:43:55.000And the other one is that just as the cost of information transmission is falling, the cost of picking up and moving your butt is falling.
00:44:02.000I moved from Massachusetts, where the local community and the norms and the politics were very much not to my liking, and I moved to New Hampshire eight years ago.
00:44:14.000I don't know if I would necessarily say that I'm part of the Free State Project, but I'm certainly FSP adjacent, and I know a lot of FSP people.
00:44:21.000And there's a joke, you know, what's the difference between a libertarian and an ANCAP?
00:44:24.000And the answer is, you know, six months in New Hampshire.
00:44:26.000So, you know, I think picking up and moving to be around people who are like you is a good thing.
00:44:32.000And there's a phrase, the great sort, which is mostly talking about demographics and mating, but I think that to some degree it's also happening geographically.
00:44:59.000But the people they bring with them when they move their companies and their jobs, they bring people with them in their periphery who are definitely not going to agree with exactly what happens there in Texas.
00:45:10.000You know, that being said, I do think there's a great sort happening.
00:45:46.000Where I keep finding the problem, or a problem, regarding this whole concept of decentralized law is if a community wants to pollute the air, because that can affect the entire globe if it's done on a mass enough scale.
00:45:59.000If they're pumping methane and carbon and, you know, radioactive materials up into the atmosphere to produce just pure industry, like hundreds of thousands of people, like for decades, could just destroy things like thousands of miles away.
00:46:18.000We've got all of these rules against having, you know, plastic straws in the U.S. and really
00:46:21.000it's all coming from just one small place.
00:46:23.000So are we ultimately, will we need a global, like an overseer?
00:46:28.000So you know, my answer to this is that freedom can only exist on the frontier and you know,
00:46:35.000America has got a really unique libertarian culture.
00:46:37.000You find a few libertarians in other places, but it's endemic to, you know, the United States and that's because of our culture.
00:46:44.000We ran into a, you know, quote-unquote empty, which is, you know, the Western Hemisphere was empty because of the tragedy of communicable diseases.
00:46:53.000But we evolved this idea of a frontier because we had a frontier, and that's why you can sort of never really communicate about some of these topics with people in other parts of the country.
00:47:03.000And so, if I may plug something else, Tim introduced me as an author, and the first things I wrote before the homesteading books were two anarcho-capitalistic novels which pretty much have the thesis that we can only achieve freedom out on the frontier.
00:47:17.000So the first one is The Powers of the Earth, which won the Prometheus Award for Best Novel.
00:47:22.0002018, and the sequel is Causes of Separation, which won the Prometheus Award in 2019.
00:47:27.000I think you are correct about that with the freedom.
00:47:29.000The way I've described it is, you know how gases, the molecules, you know, are bouncing around quite a bit, liquids a little bit, and then solids, they're rigid.
00:47:49.000The more people surround you, the more you push, and it compresses your sphere of freedom.
00:47:54.000So it's actually, it's a really, really easy way to explain it.
00:47:57.000I love your analogy, and because I'm a nerd, I'm going to make it a little nerdier, which is the ideal gas law, which is PV equals NRT.
00:48:04.000And, you know, it's a great analogy, because one thing that happens when you add more molecules that have this kinetic energy, or when you crush them in tighter space, is the temperature goes up.
00:48:18.000Expands right right you know so we can go to the sort of the Carnot cycle that it pushes out and you know the piston But we're talking about compression so that energy is getting released.
00:48:28.000It is just playing the drums mm-hmm That in order to play the drums you need a massive sphere of freedom You can't do it in the suburbs.
00:48:38.000You might be able to, but you have to get permission.
00:48:40.000You have to ask, hey, you guys mind if we're playing the drums?
00:48:41.000I know, you know, the zoning laws say that, the ordinance says, I can be noisy until 10 p.m., but then your neighbors get mad at you, and then you're fighting with your neighbors.
00:48:49.000You talk to them, they'll say, okay, play the drums, but only between this hours.
00:48:51.000Or you, okay, make noise, but only between this hours.
00:49:17.000There's a dozen or five dozen reasons that I don't want to live in a city and I can't stand the city, but one of them is that I'm an introvert.
00:49:26.000I know people who often propose systems, like I've got one friend who is proposing a hackerspace, and my answer to a hackerspace is, I have a hackerspace, it's my garage.
00:49:33.000I've got MIG welders and bandsaws and lathes and everything I want to do, and so anytime I want to do a project, the tools are there and I'm first in line and I don't have to wait for anyone else.
00:49:43.000And I think that one of the reasons that he likes the idea of a hackerspace is because all of these things are up for negotiation.
00:49:49.000We get to come together as a community and decide the rules for how we should do this.
00:49:53.000We get to come together as a community.
00:49:54.000So what I would see as a cost, which is the interactions and the negotiations, is for him a benefit.
00:49:59.000And I think a lot of people who love cities actually love the fact that you have to negotiate everything.
00:50:06.000They talk about a certain sense of community, and that's what makes New York City great.
00:50:10.000The fact that when one person vomits on the subway, that everyone else helps everyone else walk around it.
00:50:17.000I don't like interacting, so if I want to play the drums and get my Neil Peardon, I don't want to have to talk to ten other people about it.
00:50:23.000Regarding PV-NRT, this is a little bit of an aside.
00:50:26.000I'd like to hear what you think about this.
00:50:27.000When you increase the pressure, it either is going to enhance the temperature or expand the system.
00:50:33.000But it's just for tubular systems, the way that was written out, to get water.
00:50:36.000I think it's to get water out of wells or something.
00:50:38.000So, you know, PV equals NRT, the ideal gas law, is what you would use to describe a piston in a cylinder, whether it's an internal combustion engine or a Stirling engine.
00:50:47.000But it would also apply to say a balloon.
00:50:50.000So is it possible that as the balloon expands, it causes the expansion causes friction, which
00:50:56.000is energy from outside of the system to cause it to heat up faster, which causes it to expand
00:51:00.000faster, which causes more friction, which causes more heat and a faster, so you get
00:51:20.000What I'm getting at is I think that in order to explain free energy, this is totally off topic, I'm sorry, but I want to talk about PV and RT.
00:52:41.000I think a lot of the critical race theory stuff is going to result in moms being shocked and angered, but this mask... It's already happening, yeah.
00:52:48.000Now, consider when kids are back in school, summer ends.
00:52:51.000I saw this story, and I saw it on Reddit, and I looked at the comments, because the first thing I thought when I saw that schools wanted to make kids wear masks, even if they're vaccinated, my immediate thought was, There is no way even the establishment leftists, the people who march on a dime for the establishment, are going to be okay with this.
00:53:10.000Because even though we have seen to great lengths these people are willing to contort themselves, this will snap their brains like a rubber band.
00:53:39.000But their brains were just at that point where the rubber band was gonna snap.
00:53:43.000Seeing the person say, I'm a high school teacher and I just can't handle it anymore.
00:53:48.000And I'm like, whether they want to support the narrative or not, the rubber band is going to snap back and then something's going to happen.
00:53:55.000I don't know what, maybe it actually stabilizes things.
00:53:58.000I see a lot of doom posting on Twitter from my tribe talking about, oh gosh, you know, the left is going further on this and this, and you know, the 1984 totalitarian, blah, blah, blah.
00:55:38.000I don't care about what these leftist rage bait smear merchants care for the same reason I don't care about what people in Liberia are saying about me.
00:55:47.000It's a different country and it has nothing to do with me.
00:55:49.000So when I see these people who I know live in Wally world and and believe non-sickle garbage, I'm like, they can say whatever they want.
00:56:12.000When I heard, this is the example I use every time, Joe Biden talking about lockdowns, when red states were doing the opposite, I was like, that's it.
00:56:20.000It is very clear that he does not view us as part of the conversation or as part of the country or as someone who needs to be talked to.
00:56:26.000So when I see someone in the mainstream media, NBC or whatever, say something, I'm like, why do I care what they think?
00:56:32.000It is not part of the world I live in.
00:56:37.000My friend Adam said something really interesting a month or two back, which is, you know, I think his exact words were, I'm really realizing more and more that I'm a patriot of a country that never really existed.
00:56:49.000And I think, you know, if you look at Twitter and other places, people on the right are saying, you know, effectively, I don't know what I believe in.
00:56:56.000I, you know, believe in this 1950s world, but also that 1950s world was maybe more an artifact of marketing than reality.
00:57:04.000And people on the left, you know, they march, but then the world isn't operating the way they think it's supposed to operate and their models are broken.
00:57:11.000There's a huge cultural malaise or ennui or something going on because all of the old explanations and answers have broken down.
00:57:19.000And, you know, Joe Biden isn't motivating anyone.
00:57:21.000There's no narratives that are motivating anyone.
00:57:24.000And we're discovering the new world right now.
00:58:37.000Now, with the internet, the Overton window extends, for the most part, from, like, the center-right to the far-left.
00:58:43.000It's kind of hilarious that that's true.
00:58:45.000The mainstream will allow these conversations.
00:58:48.000They'll wag their finger at the center-right, and they'll clap for the far-left.
00:58:53.000But anyway, the main point is that it allows the entirety of the political compass to exist now in the space, even if we can say the Overton Window doesn't include the far-right, the authoritarian right, and even, and for some reason, ANCAPs get lumped in there sometimes.
00:59:06.000I mean, I think the Overton Window includes just enough Republicans that they, the Cathedral, or they, the, you know, sort of central political organization, can say, oh, we're tolerant, we accept everyone up to John McCain.
00:59:19.000And, you know, maybe Mitt Romney on a good day.
00:59:22.000But regardless of what the cathedral thinks, there are online communities for literally every section.
00:59:36.000But I do think this is causing a lot of our problems, especially when, you know, so we're seeing this shuffling, this great sorting algorithm is kind of happening.
00:59:48.000And one of the stories I read was about a teacher and she gave an interview and she was like what they're doing to the unions and how they treat us is absurd and the state is racist so I'm leaving I'm going to Austin or something like that or you know some other city and I'm like isn't it fascinating that in the in one of the West Virginia I think is the second most Trump supporting state from 2020 Absolutely.
01:00:35.00037.2% of the population is in favor of their region balkanizing.
01:00:38.000You know, my dad is a real centrist Republican, you know, sort of Mitt Romney Republican, and I had the pleasure of seeing my folks over this past weekend after a year and a half because of COVID.
01:00:48.000And my dad, this sort of, you know, mainstream whatever media TV is telling me, you know, he's talking about, you know, we need to break into two countries.
01:00:55.000And when you're looking at, you know, 75 year old boomers who came up in the system and they're saying, you know, they're sounding like some crazy new reactionary on Twitter.
01:01:28.000We're definitely not going to see civil war because wars happen when you've got a lot of young men and our population structure will not support a war.
01:01:36.000There's just not enough cannon fodder.
01:01:38.000Neil Stevenson, a great science fiction author, one of my favorites.
01:01:42.000has had the sort of future history of loosely linked books.
01:01:46.000And he has sort of, you know, crazy red tribe rural areas and crazy blue tribe rural areas
01:02:05.000That, you know, maybe the tax dollars keep filing back to Washington and, you know, maybe the bomber bases still sit here, but we're not going to listen to laws we don't want to.
01:02:12.000And we've seen that with marijuana legalization at the state level.
01:02:18.000What if we end up with multiple layers of governments going on at once?
01:02:22.000One while the electricity is on and one if it goes off.
01:02:29.000What do you think is going to happen to these blue areas when the collapse or the disarray happens or the, you know?
01:02:35.000You know, it's a Red Tribe talking point that, you know, oh, you know, the blue areas, they're all fashion designers and accountants and there's a totally fake economy there and these people don't produce anything.
01:02:44.000Whereas out here in steel and corn country, this is the real world.
01:02:48.000And, you know, I understand the emotions behind that, that the blue tribe often doesn't see the red tribe virtues.
01:02:57.000They don't appreciate hard work and diligence and, you know, breaking bones and getting sweaty and all these other things.
01:03:03.000And so you want to believe that, you know, there are feat losers, bug men living in pods.
01:03:07.000And my books, by the way, start out, I think there's, you know, on the dedication page that, you know, this is to Robert Heinlein who taught us not to be bug men living in pods.
01:03:16.000But the blue areas do huge amounts of useful things and we're not going to, you know, if there were a civil war, we're not going to surround Boston for a second time and starve them out because they export intellectual property and they've got a port and all of the food they ever want to buy is going to come in from the world.
01:03:30.000So I'm not predicting a collapse and I'm not predicting civil war.
01:03:35.000I think a peaceful divorce would be great.
01:03:36.000I think both sides would do okay afterwards.
01:03:38.000In a peaceful divorce, it wouldn't be both sides.
01:03:42.000There's no real way to split the country in two, but there could be five regions.
01:03:47.000There could be a bunch of different regions.
01:03:53.000California produces a massive amount of food for the country and for the world, but I'm not convinced that the farmers in Tulare, who are mostly Trump-supporting Republicans, are going to be like, sure, I'll give my food to these hippie lunatics in the cities.
01:04:05.000Right, well, give or, you know, are subject to regulation by.
01:04:27.000Revolution only succeeded because there was a Great Power War going on where England didn't have the ability to fight us because they were busy fighting France.
01:04:34.000And if you look at how the US always plays divide and conquer, we're always backing one
01:04:38.000faction overseas, you know, the Syrian rebel group versus the other one.
01:04:43.000And so, you know, I think China is going to get old before it gets rich.
01:04:48.000So they are most dangerous for the next 10 or 20 or 30 years.
01:04:52.000But I don't think that the future of the world is Chinese.
01:06:55.000The struggle of capitalism in a technological revolution is, and this is really obvious for a lot of people, when you have an industrialization, a lot of jobs get washed away.
01:07:07.000But in our current system, we don't just give people stuff.
01:07:10.000The challenge there is if one person has to work to help the society survive, they will not tolerate, very likely, if other people are not working and getting equal access to resources.
01:07:23.000So long as there are people who need to make food, giving free food to other people is going to make people angry.
01:07:30.000In which case, that's one of the biggest challenges we have as we move forward technologically.
01:07:35.000You'll get people saying, don't take my job away.
01:07:37.000And then when someone gets their job taken away through no fault of their own, and then you get a government subsidy, then they're like, you're taking my tax dollars to pay them.
01:07:43.000With this potential breakup or great reset, they will erase all of these jobs.
01:08:06.000And I put, I wanted a chocolate sundae with, with chocolate syrup and sprinkles.
01:08:10.000And the little robot man just goes, meh, meh, meh, meh, and then hands me the little thing.
01:08:14.000We don't need a human being to do it anymore.
01:08:16.000So this great reset, I imagine, is going to purge a ton of jobs.
01:08:21.000To go off on a tangent about this job loss, you know, the libertarian or free market answer is, you know, actually automation and steel mills is great because it used to take 100 blacksmiths to do something and you're sure you're upset that 99% of them are unemployed, but they're now going to get new jobs as machinists.
01:08:37.000And, you know, as we get rid of the sort of... But that's not true.
01:08:42.000Somebody who is mining coal can't learn to code.
01:09:04.000And he's equally a human being as anyone else.
01:09:06.000But you start to get to a problem when we can automate anything under a 90 or 95 or 100 or 105 IQ, and I do worry that we're getting to that world.
01:09:16.000Now, you were talking about the anger against welfare, and there is a fair bit of anger, but on the other hand, we have as a society a rhetorical device, or several rhetorical devices.
01:09:26.000We have welfare for the old cold social security, and the polite fiction is you paid into that.
01:09:30.000And you did, but you end up taking a lot more out of it than you put in.
01:09:33.000And we have another polite fiction, which is disability.
01:09:36.000And the fiction there is you can't work, so a decent society helps you.
01:09:40.000And there are some people who are truly disabled.
01:09:42.000There was a good article in the Atlantic, I don't know, like two or three years ago, talking about how disability is kind of a different form of welfare, where if you go to the right doctor and say the right things, where there are unfalsifiable statements like, my back hurts, then you get it.
01:09:56.000And so, you know, all societies have white lies they tell themselves, and I wonder if disability is ours to deal with the fact that cognitive things are being priced out.
01:10:06.000Let's think about that in the context of the Great Reset or a great divorce in this country.
01:10:12.000How will people in cities get access to food from farmers?
01:10:18.000Right now what we're seeing is they're doing this unemployment thing.
01:10:46.000The only way that actually keeps sustaining itself is that the people doing the work don't know that people who aren't doing work are, you know, as long as they don't know that's happening, but they do know it's happening.
01:10:57.000So I can only imagine, you know, going back to that, as you mentioned, what did you call it, a red state belief?
01:11:07.000I know a lot of people live in cities.
01:11:09.000You put them in the middle of the woods, it's over.
01:11:11.000So this ties into a prepping thing where, you know, I sometimes flip through prepping magazines when I'm at the bookstore having a coffee, which I do, you know, once a week or so.
01:11:19.000Or, you know, someone will forward me something off of a prepping form.
01:11:22.000And people like this idea that, oh, I'm going to buy a can of survival seeds.
01:11:26.000Or my plan when the system collapses, I'm going to bug out and I'm going to find an
01:11:30.000abandoned farm and I'll just start farming.
01:11:33.000And you know, speaking of my own experience, my wife and I have been on the farm for about
01:11:36.000eight years and we have been working, you know, hugely hard, you know, on the order
01:11:40.000of, you know, all of Saturday, all of Sunday, weeding and chainsawing down trees and converting
01:11:46.000And we've also brought in pros to help us with some of this, like fencing and other
01:11:50.000And there's so much equipment and there's so much specialized knowledge, which is why the books are so thick, where, you know, I learned that, you know, oh, in this pasture I want to grow hay so that I can feed sheep, so I can get food from that, but before I can grow hay I've got to kill off the poison ivy, which means that I need to put down 2,4-D and 3,6-D at a certain application rate.
01:12:09.000And just to finish real quickly, the idea that you're going to wander out with a can of survival seeds as civilization is collapsing and, you know, feed yourself is absolutely insane.
01:12:17.000Homesteading is a viable approach, but, you know, it's a 10-year plan.
01:13:22.000And there's all sorts of details, like if you want to save the seeds from tomatoes.
01:13:25.000Tomatoes are tricky because there is a sort of gel-like coating on the seeds and you have to let the seeds sit in the gel and rot for a week or two and then wash them off and then preserve the seeds.
01:13:36.000And this is another thing that, uh, you know, if you don't know this stuff, you're just going to make an absolute, uh, hash of it.
01:13:58.000You know, preservation technology is huge and there's a whole lot of flavors that we as
01:14:02.000humans like because we sort of evolved in a semi-civilized state.
01:14:06.000We love smoked beef jerky because that's a preservation technology.
01:14:10.000We like pickles because that's a preservation technology.
01:14:12.000We like cheese because that's a preservation technology.
01:14:15.000And my hint with the zucchini, by the way, I peel my zucchini, I shred them in a food processor, I vacuum seal them, I throw them in a chest freezer, and then I mix that with ground turkey and onions and make turkey fritters all year long.
01:14:28.000Now, what's fascinating, though, is that a lot of what you're describing is we've got modern technology like freezers and refrigerators.
01:15:07.000I put mine in around seven or eight years ago, and I'm going to... I'm building out the solar right now, and the second battery bank is gonna be lithium, so it's great.
01:15:22.000I was in New York when Sandy hit, and there were two guys standing outside of a bodega with 2x4s and a baseball bat, one person at a time, and the guy said, all the refrigerator stuff is spoiled, because the power was out for a couple weeks, I think.
01:15:35.000They were like, the cans are good, everything else is spoiled, so take what you want.
01:15:40.000Mountain Dew was fine, all the sodas were fine, but anything perishable, gone.
01:15:46.000So your freezers, all that stuff, in the city?
01:16:03.000You know, this ties back to the idea of prepping and the power law, which is the title of one of the essays, I think it's in volume two, where, you know, how often does New York City lose power?
01:16:20.000So this is the kind of thing, it seems inconceivable, but you pull back and zoom out and you're like, no, this crap happens every 30 or 40 years and you're going to live another 30 or 40 years.
01:17:28.000These people think that they're gonna go out to a farm, where they're gonna find a guy who's been using a gun, a firearm, or multiple ones, for practical purposes, be it hunting, or, you know, or, or, or, you know, dealing with, uh, rodents and stuff, and they're gonna be able to walk on and just lay claim to a already built up and secured and maintained farm?
01:17:54.000I've got a chapter of composting Well, we hope it doesn't come to that right right a lot of hungry people though You know, so there's another thing that I hear in prepping circles, and it's a feel-good phrase, you know, it's not the equipment that you have that matters, it's what you know that matters.
01:18:09.000Because, you know, equipment can be taken from you, but what you know is a resource.
01:18:13.000And, you know, if there's some guy living in a basement, you know, in Brooklyn, and he's been reading survival forums for six years, and then the system collapsed, and he comes out to my farm and wants to share his knowledge with me for food, you know, I don't need any knowledge that this guy, you know, learned from endlessly recycled blog posts.
01:18:30.000Um, you know, there's, oh gosh, uh, there's some ancient Greek words for different kinds of knowledge, uh, technion, metis or something.
01:18:38.000Um, but to really, really know something, you've got to do it and you've got to do it ahead of time.
01:18:40.000And you're absolutely doing this with your tomatoes and your chicken.
01:18:43.000So if you lost power, you've already practiced it.
01:20:27.000Right now, it's a very, very hard hobby that I do on the weekends with lots of diesel fuel coming in from outside.
01:20:34.000If that diesel fuel went away and, you know, I tried to make a producer gas still using old FEMA plans and started logging trees to make producer gas to do stuff, you know, it's better than starving to death, but that's hard work.
01:20:49.000I went out and I grabbed some fresh jalapenos and a poblano and some some cherry tomatoes and then I went to the chicken coop and I got a couple eggs and so uh one of our chickens is I guess she's young so she's doing double eggs like they're twice as big they're Right.
01:21:05.000And I would say, to be fair, 99% of my breakfast was completely homegrown.
01:21:35.000You know, that is one of the most satisfying things, and we've done all sorts of stuff.
01:21:39.000You know, we've made corn fritters, we've made maple syrup creme brulee from maple trees that we've tapped, and I boil down the sap and make my own maple syrup.
01:21:50.000I push back on homesteaders who say everything tastes better.
01:21:53.000Like, no, you know, some food at, you know, Whole Foods and the supermarkets tastes really good.
01:21:57.000The one thing that comes from the farm that's just absolutely amazing is homemade bacon.
01:22:01.000And, you know, I'm not gonna say it's 10% better, it's 20% better.
01:22:04.000Homemade bacon is, like, literally 10 times better.
01:22:07.000Like, you just don't want store-made stuff.
01:22:08.000We've got farms around here, and so we have gotten fresh bacon, and it is indescribable.
01:22:16.000I don't even want the store-bought stuff.
01:22:23.000And if I can plug my own book again, I've got tons of details on how to make your own bacon from scratch, and you can do it even living in the suburbs.
01:22:33.000I mean, the ingredients say, you know, you need, you know, salt, salt, man.
01:22:37.000And you need and you need pig and, you know, for pig, see page four fifty eight.
01:22:42.000But you can practice a bunch of the stuff living in the suburbs.
01:22:46.000You can buy a whole pork belly from the butcher and do it.
01:22:48.000Do you think people who live in cities should escape the cities right now?
01:22:51.000You know, so one of the things I've got in the intro chapter is, you know,
01:22:56.000here's a three year here's a one year plan.
01:22:58.000You're ready to move, what do you need to do?
01:23:00.000Here's a three-year plan, and one of the things I have is a ten-year plan for young adults, because I've had a lot of, you know, friends on Twitter who are 22 or 26 ask me.
01:23:08.000And, you know, I've said on the 10-year plan, don't move right this second.
01:23:11.000You know, the cities aren't about to collapse tomorrow.
01:23:13.000What you need to do is learn a skill, you need to learn some stuff, and you need to find your mate.
01:23:20.000It's a lot easier to meet people in the city than it is out in the middle of nowhere.
01:23:24.000So you don't think, I think people should be getting away from cities immediately.
01:23:26.000Well, that's going to help me sell the book.
01:23:44.000For those that aren't familiar, narco-tyranny is basically that the government doesn't enforce the crimes and petty things that are negatively impacting your life, you're being robbed, but they do enforce anything that goes against them in any way or the powerful elites.
01:24:04.000But on the other hand, you know, some White-collar guy has a pistol that, you know, isn't known to the Attorney General to have all 17 of the checkpoints and, you know, he gets dragged through the system and he's lucky if he, you know, gets off without jail time after he spent $100,000 on legal fees.
01:24:18.000I see this as being, you know, for the most part where we are.
01:24:21.000I mentioned that, you know, Joe Biden clearly isn't speaking to half the country and that's a failure on his part.
01:24:26.000I mean, you look at what Jen Psaki issued one of the most shocking statements when she said that they were working with Facebook to censor people.
01:24:33.000When the Biden administration is now admitting that they're working with the DNC to go to phone carriers to censor private text messages, it is beyond, it is an anarcho-tyranny.
01:24:43.000There are riots in the streets, the crime is skyrocketing, the police are being defunded, yet the government is coming after private citizens to an extreme degree.
01:24:51.000There was a great quote, I think it was from P.J.
01:24:53.000O'Rourke, I read it 10 or 20 years ago, which is that PETA goes after women wearing fur coats and not bikers wearing leather jackets.
01:25:03.000Part of the explanation behind anarcho-tyranny, you know, I mentioned earlier that I studied Roman history and one thing in the later days of the empire, the Roman political elite wanted triumphs, which was a big parade through downtown Rome because it looked great, you'd have treasure.
01:25:17.000And the problem is that to conquer a tough foreign tribe is hard and there's not many of them, they're far away.
01:25:24.000So at some point the Roman political elites started waging war against allies and their own provinces Um, because it was a way to, you know, kill a bunch of people and take some treasure.
01:25:38.000Sort of, you know, some, uh, you know, high ranking, uh, you know, corruption or just pick a random white collar guy.
01:25:45.000You know, you know, I'm, I'm just, I'm at this point sick of people who are the frog in the pot boiling, who refuse to accept what is happening around them.
01:25:55.000Because I've had so many conversations where I'm like, listen, You know, I'm not trying to be a doomsayer.
01:26:02.000I am not absolutely predicting what will happen.
01:26:05.000I'm only simply asking, if everything we've seen over the past 10 years has been escalating, do you think it is more likely that the escalation will continue or that right now the escalation will stop and things will improve?
01:26:17.000But that's I'm so I'm not saying I mean quite literally tomorrow Joe Biden could come out and say I want to issue a heartfelt sincere apology to all of Trump supporters for everything that's happened in this country and I want to know that I am here for you and I'm going to be sitting down and you know he could he could say something he won't right what does he say he says the Republicans voting bills is the greatest threat since the Civil War they no one no one is backing down And no one will stop.
01:26:40.000This gets into the rhetoric where Nazi and racist are the ultimate trump cards.
01:26:45.000So this is implicitly putting anyone who doesn't agree with, you know, sort of every policy of the democratic party is obviously on the side of bringing back slavery.
01:27:27.000Joe Biden, I think, is doing everything to rip it apart.
01:27:29.000You know, there was an essay I read once, I think it was by this guy, Clark Hatt, on Status 451 blog, talking about the machinery of state and state machines.
01:27:40.000And the idea is that there are things that can roll forward, but that can't roll back the same way.
01:27:45.000And you can see it in mechanical engineering with worm gears and everything.
01:27:48.000And I'm not sure what the output of this is.
01:27:50.000I mean, accelerationism and the collapse of the United States sounds terrible, but if we were in the kind of system where we could back up, we would have already backed up.
01:27:58.000So I don't know how we get out of this.
01:27:59.000I have talked to so many people, and I mention this frequently, particularly in the past week or so with this poll that came out, talk of Thucydides Trap, the MIT study that came, you saw that MIT thing?
01:28:39.000I've seen so many people over the past several years tell me I was wrong or crazy to think that we're headed towards some kind of civil conflict.
01:28:57.000Because Trump's going to decide not to run?
01:28:58.000Because Trump's going to just disappear overnight?
01:29:00.000Or do you think 2022 Trump's going to be doing the circuit, promoting people in the midterms, the media is going to find their path towards making money again.
01:29:07.000And so that doesn't matter what's true or not.
01:29:08.000They're going to go, they're absolutely insane, rile people up to an extreme degree.
01:29:12.000And then we're going to have three years of that.
01:29:14.000And you think it's going to be all fine?
01:29:15.000You know, I think, so I'm agreeing with your overall thesis, but I think even if Trump dropped dead from a heart attack tomorrow, the two tribes have been led to hate each other so much.
01:29:45.000I mean, I lean more to the right than to the left, but I always loved the ACLU.
01:29:49.000Man, they stick by their principles, and even I, who disagree with most of the members of it, on free speech, they rock.
01:29:54.000But what happened was they made a bunch of money when they challenged Donald Trump's moratorium on travel from the seven countries, and then they got a bunch of flack over Charlottesville.
01:30:04.000And so they immediately said, Money is more important than values.
01:30:08.000And we've seen that with many different organizations.
01:30:11.000I mean, there used to be the concept of academic freedom where, okay, this one professor with his crazy ideas, you know, disagrees with all decent society, but we respect free speech and free inquiry so much that we will support him in this.
01:30:23.000And, you know, that was a useful tool until the left could entirely finish their long march through the institutions.
01:30:28.000But now that they've got it, there's no academic freedom at all.
01:30:30.000If you want to say anything that departs from the party line by 2%, you can get fired.
01:30:34.000I look at these nonprofits and I look at the media and I'm just like, I don't think there's a point at which the two different versions of reality ever meet.
01:30:44.000So I love calling this organization FreePress.net.
01:31:16.000There's this current push right now to get rid of misinformation, and I'm reading a book, I was reading it on the airplane, about the Soviets, how they almost invented the internet, and they had a couple of networking attempts in the 50s, 60s, 70s, and they had the whole concept of, you know, cybernetics, which came from the U.S., and then the Soviets were playing with it, and there was one part of cybernetics and information theory and Claude Shannon and everything that immediately had resonance with them, And that was static or noise in the system, because it fit into their ideology.
01:31:47.000You could talk about information on the one hand and noise on the other.
01:31:50.000And that was chilling to read this in the book about the Soviet internet attempts of the 1970s, because we're hearing it every day with, oh, of course we have free speech, but not for misinformation.
01:32:12.000So when the Guardian comes out with an article that says the Kremlin seems to have compromise on Trump, or according to a document, And then all of these people in the establishment left just read the headline and don't actually read the story.
01:32:22.000They believe that we have the proof that Trump is compromised.
01:32:38.000But if you read nothing but the headline, there you go.
01:32:40.000You know, Snopes.com is amazing these days because we'll have a politician say, you know, the sun rises in the east and you know, then Snopes will say, you know, this is
01:33:22.000Then it'll give you a bunch of exposition garbage, and like on Saturday, you know, the 15th, Donald Trump was giving a speech, and then finally— Trump, a known liar.
01:33:31.000Without evidence, had made these claims, and finally at the bottom, after 500, 600 words, it'll say, while Trump did do a perfect backflip, and he did land in a superhero pose, it was on Sunday— it was on Monday at midnight, which is not Sunday.
01:33:44.000Right, which in Eastern time zone is not Sunday, yeah.
01:34:26.000You know, I tend to, I've gotten sort of apolitical or post-political or something over the last couple of years, not because I don't think politics matters.
01:34:34.000You know, this is fascinating stuff and I love to sit here and analyze it.
01:34:37.000And I love to, you know, sort of go back and read old books and see what, you know, correlations we can get.
01:34:45.000And by systems, I mean sort of, you know, I'm pro free market, but capitalism at this point is this massive, you know, sort of headless monster with 7 billion people in it.
01:34:53.000And, you know, capitalism is going to do what it's going to do.
01:36:55.000I mean, he invented so much of skateboarding.
01:36:57.000However, I think at his current age, I don't see him competing with, like, Guy Curry, who just did a 1080 for the first time in a competition.
01:38:17.000So, you know, the way that this was classically done in colonial America is that you would debark the trees and then they would die and then you could farm in between them.
01:38:27.000And you could even log as you got time.
01:38:28.000You know, people tend to log in the winter.
01:38:30.000That's when I do my logging because it's a lot easier to skid the logs out to my firewood pile using my tractor on top of snow because it sort of lubricates and it also protects the pasture.
01:38:43.000So, you know, you can do this all at once by, you know, throwing a lot of money at it, or you can make it a 10-year project, and there's tons of good firewood there.
01:38:51.000There's a rule of thumb that you can pull one quart of firewood out of one acre of forest per year sustainably forever.
01:38:58.000And so there's that, but also if you want to log it all at once, there's a huge amount of firewood there.
01:39:53.000You know, I think that people confuse sort of good things that come from terrible things with an overall benefit from it.
01:40:00.000So, you know, you get drafted for a very good cause, which is, you know, fascism is terrible and putting people in death camps is terrible, and then you make a lot of, you know, lifelong buddies and whatever, but right now most of the wars we're fighting are absolutely idiotic and it's always people who wouldn't be subject to the draft who think that other people need to be drafted.
01:40:22.000He was saying some kind of community-like... I don't want to be drafted to be a social worker and I wouldn't want anyone else to be drafted for it either.
01:40:50.000If people are online and, like, you know, I'm talking only to, you know, more libertarian types, but then my neighbor is talking to socialists, conflicts are brewing because we live next to each other.
01:40:59.000So there's got to be some kind of cohesion.
01:41:01.000I do agree that shared culture is good.
01:41:03.000I also think that shared experiences coming out of voluntary behavior are much better.
01:41:08.000And one final thing on this idea of some sort of civil draft.
01:41:11.000Think about all the programs and the way they're actually run.
01:41:13.000No matter how great the theory is, the schools, the DMV, think about how it's actually implemented.
01:41:19.000And so if we had some sort of social draft, you know that the children of the rich and wealthy would end up being drafted to work in policy think tanks in D.C.
01:41:29.000with wonderful apartments, and you know that the children of coal miners would be picking up garbage on the side of the road.
01:41:36.000Captain says, I have a cabin in Northern AZ and want to homestead there permanently, but I work in IT and need internet.
01:41:41.000I have been on the Starlink waiting list for over a year now.
01:41:44.000I believe the Starlink is moving from the East Coast towards the West Coast.
01:41:48.000It's just because I know, I met somebody who has got New York Starlink, and they said that this area is going to get it near the late August, late 2021, they said.
01:42:08.000When it activates, it works within a 500-mile radius, so my understanding is they want you to keep it in the same place, but as long as you're within that range, so we could drive like, you know, half an hour up the top of a mountain.
01:42:20.000Yeah, and you know, that's all sort of policy, because the satellites are continuously orbiting past, so you're getting handed off, you know, time and again.
01:42:27.000You know, I think that Starlink is accelerating in its deployment, so I think wait a little bit longer, but that's great.
01:42:35.000Sat says, if you ever wondered why there's dumb failure politicians in office, it's because these people are highly sought after for government because they will say or do whatever they're told, no matter how absurd.
01:43:23.000And then, um, I tweeted about it, and then it popped right back up.
01:43:26.000But I'm proud to say that, um, TimCast.com, we are officially self-sustainable.
01:43:31.000There was a big fear for a while that, like, you know, we're beholden to all these different platforms.
01:43:36.000And then if we got banned, oh no, it's like, we can't work, what do we do?
01:43:39.000So I was like, we gotta start a website.
01:43:40.000We started a website, and now the new website is up, we've got a news crew.
01:43:44.000Everything that's currently happening with our news writers and our new show and our current level is sustainable just off of the website alone.
01:44:57.000Yeah, and you know, the argument is so long as, you know, these left says that health care is a human right and that the government should provide everyone with health care.
01:45:09.000But I think then everybody should have to get a gun from the government.
01:45:12.000You know, the right has been sort of overly libertarian in a certain way where the left uses the machinery of the state to indoctrinate and sort of set the playing field.
01:45:21.000And I think that one thing that Trump has started and that other Republicans are seeing is, hey, If we manage to grab the reins of power for two or four or six years, we shouldn't just, you know, pause the expansion of the state and pause the success of the culture war from one side.
01:46:04.000You can say they're not formally leaders, but they're clearly the ones who control all the money, who determine when you march, who determine when the meetings happen, and shut down people they don't want to speak.
01:46:12.000I guess the problem of meritocracy being real is who holds the reins of power isn't necessarily the one with the merit.
01:46:22.000I mean, certainly we can argue that a great leader who's very smart and capable would be the one with the true merit, but in terms of wielding power is the person capable of wielding it.
01:46:31.000So it's kind of like you said, there's a giant rock.
01:46:39.000Who deceives all the others about where the rock is.
01:46:42.000Look, look, look, could you, if you were, if there's a giant rock, you know, let's say, the Atlas stone we have, what does that weigh, 160?
01:46:51.000You guys have, you have an Atlas stone, that's awesome.
01:46:53.000We do, yeah, well someone brought it for us.
01:46:55.000If, Ian, if the rock, Dwayne Johnson, gave you a 10 minute head start, do you think you'd be able to lift the Atlas stone before him?
01:47:13.000When you look at, like, Occupy Wall Street, there was a power vacuum.
01:47:17.000There was a bunch of people there, there was a bunch of interest in funding it, and there was a vacuum in who controlled it until someone said, I will.
01:48:29.000I've got one piece of tangential thing there, which is I touch on the Norman Conquest in my homesteading books in the context of how deeds work for tractors.
01:50:48.000I was tweeting about, even earlier, a month or so ago, I saw that I think their CEO had donated to a pro-gun control politician who said, no one needs an AR-15.
01:50:56.000So, uh, you know, Black Rifle is an interesting marketing scheme, but I'm not sending them my money.
01:51:01.000Well, they were able to get a bunch of money from a lot of conservatives, so.
01:51:07.000Anime Freak says, You guys mentioned a few videos back, text censorship.
01:51:11.000I work in one of the highest departments you can work in within one of the major carriers and I can say, if a law was made, we likely wouldn't bet an eye implementing it.
01:51:20.000Well, the intention of the government is very scary.
01:51:23.000John Clapperton says, no native of India or any natural-born subject of his majesty shall be, shall be disabled from holding any place, office, or employment for any reason, uh, employment by reason of his religion, place of birth, dissent, or color, charter of the East India Company.
01:52:24.000I think that the gluten in wheat flour is hard to replace, and I know that rye, etc., just doesn't rise in the same way because you don't get the intermixed gluten.
01:53:09.000You know, be forced to fight for, for this, this national army and have your rights shipped away and just be cannon fodder or, and, or leave and watch your, your home country fall apart.
01:53:47.000There's some backstory there, which is my, you know, I'm a writer and my first published thing was when I was 13 years old and sent an article into Dragon magazine and that was published in Dragon issue 117 and about 20 years later I saw in passing that TSR, which had been bought by Wizards of the Coast, which had been bought by Hasbro, was republishing all of the old articles.
01:54:10.000And I happen to remember reading my contract from start to finish, and the contract said that I was selling first serial rights, which meant that if they ever wanted to republish it, they had to pay me.
01:54:20.000So I sent a letter to Hasbro and said, I'm thrilled to hear about this CD-ROM, pay me.
01:54:25.000And Hasbro never responded to the letter.
01:54:28.000They republished the CD-ROM and I sued Hasbro in small claims court for $2,000 because that
01:55:06.000There was some wheelchair thing, because when people do escapism, what they really want to think about is being disabled.
01:55:11.000And then the new thing that was announced a day or so ago was some sort of new woke Harry Potter bisexual elves in college campaign setting for D&D.
01:55:20.000And I'm just going to quote the meme of the Chinese guy, it's also tiresome.
01:56:19.000And not rent as any reasonable thing where you're trading money for use of land, but rent where someone just interjects themselves in a transaction and peels their slice off the top and there's no way to get around it.
01:56:56.000They're being given money and then they're extracting resources from the system without replacing it.
01:57:01.000Basically, it's kind of like, I was thinking of, we have a slushie machine downstairs, you know, and, um, when it's full, it's full of slushie, but you got to keep putting slushie in.
01:58:37.000It was it was a fighting game where it's called like Andrew Yang for president or
01:58:39.000something. And it was it was actually really fun.
01:58:43.000And really, I was surprised at how offensive it was because, uh, Elizabeth Warren was wearing Native American gear and she would make stereotypical, like an offensive, you know, sounds and stuff.
01:58:53.000And she, and her super move was to like summon a giant bowl or something.
01:58:56.000And so it was really just like, but I guess it was making fun of her for being racist.
01:59:27.000Jack of Blades says, play D&D with me, you cowards!
01:59:30.000What's a good way to get in touch with you for your podcast so I can introduce you to the woke psychic brain rat collective imprisoned by vice a la Planescape?
01:59:41.000Yeah, so one of the shows we're going to do is a weekly D&D series, and we want to do a campaign that's based around modern political ideas, but implemented through D&D.
02:00:17.000Firepower Fantasy says, hey Tim, I mainly wanted a super chat to support your content, but I also have to ask, do any of y'all have some recommended reading?
02:00:24.000You know, I would recommend you check out Escape the City, and volumes one and two.
02:00:30.000I was going to say, we should recommend these.
02:01:28.000You know, it starts with my wife opening a stall door in the barn and me wrestling the sheep out, and it ends up a year and a half later, and I'm wearing a set of wool socks myself.
02:02:11.000Oh, it was like they were giving shots, like vaccinations.
02:02:13.000And so it's like they're all just sitting there with their feet up and they slide forward and they fall on a thing and they get dropped on the ground and they run away.
02:02:41.000In terms of books, though, shout out to Michael Malice's book, The Anarchist Handbook, and Michael Malice's Speechless, which they're always tricking me into reading.
02:06:09.000First science fiction novel was The Powers of the Earth, and it won the Prometheus Award in 2018 for Best Libertarian Science Fiction Novel.
02:06:16.000My second novel was Causes of Separation, the sequel to the first one, and it also won the Prometheus Award the next year, and I think this is the first time that an author won it two years in a row, and I think it's the first time that maybe self-published books won it.
02:06:30.000And this is a saga set about 50 years from now about small government people and really kind of a great divorce thing that we've been talking about this whole time.
02:06:39.000There's this concept of loyalty, voice, or exit, where you disagree with someone, you either act loyal to them and swallow your objections, or you speak up in sort of a democratic way, or you just leave.
02:06:51.000My personal preference is just leaving.