Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Australia DEPORTS Katie Hopkins As COVID Lockdowns Make Comeback w-Travis Corcoran

00:00:00.000 Things are getting a bit spicy up in France.

00:00:15.000 Over 100,000 people were protesting in the streets.

00:00:18.000 Many of them were rioting.

00:00:20.000 A vaccination center was set on fire and several others were vandalized because Emmanuel Macron has introduced a law that if you cannot prove you are vaccinated, you will get up to six months in prison.

00:00:33.000 If you run an establishment open to the public and you do not have, if you are not checking people, if they're vaccinated, you will get up to a year in prison.

00:00:43.000 Well, naturally, people are not happy with this.

00:00:45.000 And I talked about this earlier on my other channel, but this is... Well, COVID cases are on the rise basically everywhere.

00:00:52.000 People are scared of the Delta variant, and now we're seeing draconian measures, like in France.

00:00:57.000 Over in Australia, we're getting mixed signals, I suppose.

00:01:01.000 Katie Hopkins has been deported, because apparently she broke quarantine or something like that.

00:01:05.000 And a bunch of other celebrities have come in and been given special leeway and special access, but I'm not super concerned necessarily about the double standard at this point, because we know that exists.

00:01:15.000 I suppose I'm more concerned about with whether or not the rise in COVID cases, the Delta variant, is going to result in more lockdowns, which Joe Biden says, well, it's not off the table.

00:01:23.000 So we'll talk about this, and we're going to talk a lot about, I guess, why we don't like cities.

00:01:28.000 And we're being joined by a homesteader and author, Travis Corcoran.

00:01:32.000 Do you want to introduce yourself real quick?

00:01:34.000 Thanks, Tim.

00:01:34.000 Sure.

00:01:35.000 So I am a homesteader and I am an author.

00:01:37.000 My day job is, you know, 50 hours a week as a software engineer.

00:01:42.000 And, you know, homesteading is something that, on the one hand, I do on the weekends.

00:01:45.000 That's when I'm out fixing the tractor and planting the pumpkins and butchering the pigs and all that sort of stuff.

00:01:49.000 But it also impacts one's entire life, sort of Monday through Friday, in that, you know, my wife and I talk a lot about how we really love the fact that, you know, 50% of our food comes right off the farm and every morning the bacon is from our pigs.

00:02:01.000 Can you pull your mic up a little bit?

00:02:01.000 Sorry.

00:02:02.000 Sorry.

00:02:02.000 Sure.

00:02:03.000 And, you know, the eggs are from there and, you know, when we make whatever, even tacos, that's, you know, coming from beef that I've processed.

00:02:11.000 And then there's also a lot of resiliency to living on a homestead, which ties into the whole COVID thing.

00:02:16.000 And, you know, this is, I'm here to some degree to talk about some books that I've written, Escape the City Volumes 1 and 2.

00:02:23.000 And the timing was perfect on this because when COVID hit, you know, a whole lot of people in the cities, their lifestyles just, you know, turned terrible.

00:02:31.000 And there's obviously the whole real estate realignment that's going on right now where real estate prices are absolutely crashing in every city core.

00:02:38.000 And you're seeing, you know, huge price run ups in other places as, you know, half the country redistributes where it wants to live.

00:02:43.000 They're fleeing the city.

00:02:44.000 Right.

00:02:44.000 Yeah.

00:02:45.000 And so it's good to hear that they're taking Jack Posobiec's advice and my advice.

00:02:50.000 Right.

00:02:50.000 And your advice.

00:02:51.000 Escape the city.

00:02:51.000 Hopefully.

00:02:53.000 The Kickstarter did well, and the book's now up on Amazon, so the advice is there for anyone who wants it.

00:02:57.000 We're gonna talk a lot about what's going on with this lockdown stuff.

00:02:59.000 I mean, this stuff in France is absolutely draconian, but then an optimistic solution.

00:03:04.000 Because I've been saying this a long time, like, I actually was saying this today.

00:03:07.000 It's so amazing.

00:03:08.000 I'm looking out my window when I'm recording these videos.

00:03:09.000 Forest.

00:03:10.000 There's, like, deer running around.

00:03:11.000 They're doing deer stuff.

00:03:12.000 And then I see him, like, going for the paw-paw and I'm, like, getting nervous, like, ooh, they're gonna take it.

00:03:16.000 But apparently, we don't have to worry because they're not ripe yet, so the deer won't go near them.

00:03:19.000 I just gotta make sure we get them before the deer take them.

00:03:21.000 But it's a lot of fun, so we'll talk about this stuff.

00:03:23.000 Ian's chillin'.

00:03:23.000 Yeah, I was out in the woods over the weekend, I think it was over the weekend, picking some wineberries, and man, I was getting scratched up by the brambles, getting my hair caught in the twigs, and it felt great!

00:03:31.000 I felt alive!

00:03:32.000 I felt connected with nature.

00:03:33.000 I felt like it was enhancing my immune system by giving me just a little bit of those cuts, you know?

00:03:38.000 A little bit of that dirt.

00:03:38.000 As long as you had washed it off.

00:03:40.000 Then I went and took a shower.

00:03:41.000 I feel like a million bucks.

00:03:42.000 Ian Crosland in the house.

00:03:43.000 What up, everybody?

00:03:44.000 And I am also here.

00:03:45.000 I did not go out and find wine berries, but I'm really excited to try this wine wine once it's done.

00:03:49.000 I'm really curious what it tastes like.

00:03:50.000 Wine wine.

00:03:51.000 So wine berries are a local, well actually they're not local, they're an invasive Asian variant of raspberries and they're everywhere in Appalachia.

00:03:59.000 So you drive down the road and you see red berries everywhere.

00:04:02.000 They're amazing.

00:04:02.000 You just pop them right off.

00:04:04.000 And so we're going to make a little bit of wine wine.

00:04:05.000 I'm super excited.

00:04:06.000 You have better invasive species here in the Maryland, D.C.

00:04:09.000 area than we have up in New Hampshire.

00:04:10.000 We've got Japanese knotweed and bittersweet, and I am out there, you know, every weekend with a pick and shovel, digging that stuff up.

00:04:19.000 You know, at first, we have stink bugs, too, and they're everywhere.

00:04:22.000 They're insane.

00:04:24.000 And at first, I was upset about it.

00:04:26.000 Then we got chickens.

00:04:27.000 Now it's like, ooh, a stink bug.

00:04:29.000 Food for the chickens.

00:04:30.000 And they love the little things, man.

00:04:32.000 So we'll get into all that stuff, but we're gonna start dark, and then move into the more optimistic.

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00:05:32.000 Now, let's read this first story and talk about what's going on.

00:05:34.000 We got this from TimCast.com.

00:05:37.000 Australia sends mixed signals on who is permitted to enter the country, deports Katie Hopkins.

00:05:44.000 They say despite permitting the arrival of celebrities... Come on, Tim Kast, get a copy editor.

00:05:49.000 The government has not brought home 40,000 Australians.

00:05:52.000 Now the article basically goes on to mention that there are many celebrities flying in like, you know, you've got to what they say Nicole Kidman flew in, you have Lachlan Murdoch and Keith Urban were among the elite group have been allowed to travel back to the country via private plane.

00:06:06.000 They were also permitted to quarantine at their private homes.

00:06:10.000 They go on to mention that British commentator Katie Hopkins, who was also in Australia to film Big Brother, was deported for comments she made online about breaking the country's quarantine regulations.

00:06:23.000 So we've seen a lot of this lockdown stuff going on, and now basically the story is Australia is prolonging its COVID-19 lockdown in Victoria amid the Delta outbreak.

00:06:32.000 So this is the excuse by which they're saying everyone's got to quarantine again if you're flying into the country.

00:06:37.000 And it kind of...

00:06:39.000 I gotta say, it is awfully convenient if you are a proponent of the Great Reset.

00:06:44.000 Oh, absolutely.

00:06:44.000 Are you familiar with the Great Reset?

00:06:46.000 It's awfully fortuitous, I suppose, for those who are fans of the Great Reset and those who have advocated for it, that we can't travel to places anymore.

00:06:55.000 That people are deported if they, you know, they break quarantine.

00:06:59.000 The country has laws.

00:06:59.000 I get it.

00:07:00.000 Australia is allowed to deport who they want, I suppose.

00:07:02.000 But now they're prolonging this.

00:07:03.000 Now there's fears of, you know, the Delta variant outbreak.

00:07:08.000 And I'm just, you know, I'm curious.

00:07:10.000 You mentioned In the intro, we're talking about people fleeing these cities.

00:07:15.000 What's your what's your I guess your prediction on where we go?

00:07:18.000 Sure.

00:07:20.000 You know, I've got some thoughts about the current month in the current year, but we were talking before the show rolled about, you know, I think the world is changing in a really fundamental and big way and the kind of thing that you don't see every year.

00:07:30.000 I mean, sure, things change, you know, one year and the next.

00:07:33.000 But, you know, I think that every 500 years or so, things really, really change.

00:07:37.000 And we saw that, you know, Around 500 years ago with the invention of the printing press, which led to the rise of Protestantism and religious wars, and then eventually the Westphalian nation-states coming up and replacing feudalism.

00:07:49.000 And, you know, I think the internet and the new modes of communication technology right now are, you know, and this isn't a story from like last year or two years, it's, you know, 30 years, 50 years, but the world is really changing fundamentally, and I think we're going to see changes at about the same scale.

00:08:02.000 So I think that people are escaping the cities right now, and that's going to accelerate over the coming years.

00:08:07.000 But that's just one component of a much bigger change in currency and lifestyles and economies and how states and people are organized on the planet.

00:08:16.000 Do you think it's intentional?

00:08:18.000 Like there are people who are actively trying to kill off cities?

00:08:22.000 Obviously.

00:08:22.000 Well, you know, there's intention out there and there's emergent stuff.

00:08:26.000 I don't think that the elites who are pushing the Great Reset and the whole, you know, live in the pod, eat the bugs, want people to escape the cities.

00:08:33.000 You know, they're saying, hey, you know, our system is already 80% along and we just need to tune it a little more.

00:08:38.000 We need, you know, more green energy, even though windmills are sort of a terrible technology and nuclear is much better.

00:08:43.000 And we need more sustainable foods.

00:08:45.000 And by sustainable, they're always talking about bugs.

00:08:47.000 And never about, you know, raising pigs and chickens and, you know, eating wine berries.

00:08:52.000 They're saying not to eat pigs and chickens.

00:08:54.000 Right, right.

00:08:54.000 Saying to eat the bugs.

00:08:55.000 Right, right.

00:08:56.000 Did you see that story out of Leesburg, Virginia, where the guy was serving cicadas?

00:09:00.000 He was like going into his side of his house and picking them off.

00:09:00.000 I did not.

00:09:04.000 And then I guess the health department was like, dude, you can't pick bugs off the side of your house and serve it to people.

00:09:09.000 So he ordered cicadas.

00:09:11.000 Right.

00:09:11.000 I guess they were from China.

00:09:14.000 So it clearly defeats the purpose of eating sustainable bugs from the floor.

00:09:18.000 Ship them in by air or something.

00:09:19.000 Yeah, right?

00:09:20.000 Just eat the centipedes.

00:09:21.000 Yeah.

00:09:22.000 So anyway, sorry, I don't know.

00:09:24.000 So I think your question was, was this intentional to get people to flee the cities?

00:09:28.000 And I think what's intentional is the Great Reset, the whole endless propaganda about how eating bugs and your lifestyle is going to be different, and you're not going to own anything, you're going to rent everything.

00:09:38.000 And, you know, I think that a lot of that is intentional, but I think that we're, to some degree, seeing the last gasp of the current system.

00:09:45.000 Sort of like, you know, the Soviets around 1985.

00:09:47.000 The current elites have run out of any energy.

00:09:52.000 I mean, the Soviets motivated their people, you know, it was a terrible system, but there was actual grassroots enthusiasm.

00:09:59.000 When you bring rural electrification to people, you know, they're going to like that even if you're doing other terrible things.

00:10:03.000 When you educate the sons of dirt farmers, they're going to like that.

00:10:07.000 And so the Soviets had some innate momentum for decades and then eventually they just played out everything they could do and then you know they're talking about the 18th five-year plan and you know 1986 or something and everyone knew it was a joke and the Soviets in the system said you know they pretend to pay us and we pretend to work And I think that, you know, the last bastion of centrally planned communism is, you know, here in the West. 0.64

00:10:32.000 What is that?

00:10:33.000 I mean... I'm joking a little bit, making a reference to sort of Mencius Moldbug, Curtis Yarvin stuff.

00:10:38.000 But no, but you mean to say, like, the current system we're under, everybody knows it's a joke, and I think... Exactly, and that's where I was going.

00:10:44.000 Right.

00:10:44.000 You're right.

00:10:45.000 You know, You know, we've got, and don't worry I know what one can say and not say, but we've got a Democratic Party.

00:10:54.000 The Republican Party ceased to be able to put forward any candidates of its own sort of ideology and the Democratic Party has sort of entirely run out of steam where they're putting forward these candidates who It's inevitable because it's their time and you get these, you know, sort of absolute laughingstocks.

00:11:08.000 Hillary Clinton.

00:11:09.000 Right, right.

00:11:10.000 So and, you know, Joe Biden, God help him, does not seem to have all of his marbles in one place.

00:11:16.000 He's got like two marbles left.

00:11:17.000 Right, right.

00:11:17.000 You know, it's a tragedy.

00:11:19.000 But this is the last gasp of the system, you know, and so they pretend to have a president and, you know, we pretend to respect the system.

00:11:27.000 And I think that things are changing.

00:11:30.000 I like that joke.

00:11:31.000 You know, they pretend to pay us, we pretend to work.

00:11:33.000 They pretend to have a president.

00:11:34.000 I think the sad thing is, yeah, it's paper thin.

00:11:37.000 Yeah.

00:11:37.000 You know, there is a presidential administration.

00:11:40.000 Joe Biden is fumbling, bumbling Joe, trying to not shop at a pressure, bad at cath care.

00:11:45.000 And, you know, one thing that I've brought up on the show frequently is that when he speaks, it's very obvious he's not talking to half the country.

00:11:51.000 Right.

00:11:52.000 When he makes references to COVID, when he makes references to law, They've basically cut off in terms of their, there was a point where they were like, you know, we want to try and make sure we're getting to the other side to win those votes.

00:12:04.000 Now they're like, we don't even care.

00:12:05.000 Yeah.

00:12:06.000 We don't, don't care about those.

00:12:07.000 We saw in the 1900s, 20th century, the, the, the fall of like centrally planned economies very clearly.

00:12:12.000 And now I think we're up against the centrally planned law lawyering system.

00:12:16.000 And I wonder how we can, I like how you said poly as opposed to decentralized polycentric law and how we would do that.

00:12:25.000 While maintaining a union.

00:12:26.000 How do you foresee that?

00:12:26.000 Right.

00:12:27.000 I'm not sure we maintain a union.

00:12:28.000 I mean, you know, every system lives for as long as it lives.

00:12:32.000 Back in college, I double majored.

00:12:33.000 I was computer science, but also Roman history.

00:12:35.000 And one of my professors, I think Barry Strauss, had a wonderful last lecture in the semester one year.

00:12:42.000 And, you know, he was talking about the parallels between the Roman system and the American system.

00:12:47.000 And, you know, he said a few things that, you know, every country ends eventually, but also its forms linger on after the reality of it has died.

00:12:56.000 And, you know, a lot of people, you know, sort of red-grey tribe will say, you know, you know, America's gone so far off the rails, but we'll get it back. 0.99

00:13:04.000 And I'm like, you know, dude, I think America ended somewhere between 10 and 50 years ago.

00:13:08.000 And right now, you know, we still have the form of it.

00:13:10.000 Some people argue it ended with the Federal Reserve.

00:13:12.000 I think that's, you know, I don't particularly have the Federal Reserve bug.

00:13:17.000 That explains everything.

00:13:19.000 But I can get along with those guys.

00:13:22.000 I think that there's good arguments that—oh, gosh.

00:13:28.000 Not Coolidge.

00:13:29.000 Anyway, I'm blanking in my early 20th century.

00:13:30.000 Woodrow Wilson?

00:13:31.000 Yes, thank you very much, sir.

00:13:33.000 And there's another argument to go further back than Abraham Lincoln.

00:13:36.000 And, you know, even if freeing the slaves was a wonderful ideal, it's interesting how every other country on the planet managed to free its slaves without having a war and killing 3% of its population.

00:13:46.000 Yeah, and many before us.

00:13:48.000 Yeah.

00:13:48.000 Like the British Empire.

00:13:49.000 Exactly.

00:13:50.000 Perfect example.

00:13:51.000 Great Britain proper, I think was in the 1700s.

00:13:52.000 Yep.

00:13:53.000 Was it like 73 or something or 75?

00:13:54.000 Uh, I would have thought it was later than that, but I'll trust your number.

00:13:58.000 I could be wrong.

00:13:59.000 I know that the, in, in the greater Commonwealth, it was 1833.

00:14:02.000 Right.

00:14:03.000 That's, that's the number I had in my head.

00:14:04.000 It's funny.

00:14:04.000 Cause they freed their slaves, but they still have like colonized India.

00:14:08.000 Right.

00:14:09.000 You know, and, and the United States is an example of that, but I'm, you know, We talk about, you know, we're this exemplar for all mankind of this wonderful free society where anybody can do anything, you know, as long as it's in the properly approved narrow set of things that are good and free, not, you know, terrible bad things like, you know, going to church and having old-fashioned ideas or owning firearms or anything.

00:14:29.000 And yet we have this crazy system where Members of both parties sort of support this imperial war mongering

00:14:36.000 system where we're fighting and you know 30 or 40 different countries

00:14:39.000 So we've got this representative government and all these freedoms at home to some degree while simultaneously we

00:14:44.000 have you know Absolute you know

00:14:48.000 On on what is the word I'm looking for with without fettered.

00:14:53.000 Yes unfettered. That'll do you know?

00:14:55.000 We have this effect of war on anyone we want to and there's no checks and balances and there's no civil rights

00:14:59.000 It's crazy to me how at a certain point the United States the the politicians stopped actually

00:15:05.000 and Implementing policy in this country, and it was actually an argument over what we should be doing overseas, right?

00:15:10.000 And we had a long period of that from my mind look I can't argue for about what happened before I was born But I thought most of my life was just a whole lot of arguing about we're gonna do to other people elsewhere And I long complained.

00:15:21.000 I'm like everybody's coming out talking about these pipes in Flint which which now I believe are fixed But I'm like how much money did we spend in Afghanistan building roads and building schools, right?

00:15:29.000 So it's weird to me that the answer to a lot of what the left was complaining about was simply that we focus on America first, which is controversial, I guess, for some strange reason.

00:15:38.000 But I want to go back to this point about, you know, Katie Hopkins and Australia, because you mentioned there might not be a union.

00:15:44.000 And so I'm wondering if these countries are effectively shutting their borders off, they're making it much, much more difficult for anyone to come in.

00:15:52.000 What is it going to look like if the United States Isn't even going to be a union, but then it's already hard

00:15:58.000 enough for people to travel. It feels like everybody is becoming more isolationist

00:16:01.000 You know, so there's an interesting thing where things are getting physically more isolated, you know in the physical

00:16:07.000 realm of where can you go?

00:16:08.000 At the same time that distance is becoming less important This is the whole sort of lexus and the olive tree thesis

00:16:13.000 that you know The world is getting flat and you know

00:16:16.000 You can source parts from wherever and you can you know, I work for a startup that doesn't have a physical location

00:16:22.000 We're decentralized and we've got people, you know, all the way from Italy over to Japan.

00:16:25.000 So we've just got this sort of weird rolling 20-hour clock.

00:16:30.000 But, you know, this gets to what I was saying earlier about, you know, every 500 years or so maybe there's a deep fundamental change in how society is structured.

00:16:37.000 Now, getting to COVID, I think that this is a short-term problem.

00:16:40.000 There's You know, we sequenced COVID-19 in very short order and we came up with an immunization for it in, you know, 48 hours.

00:16:48.000 And the only thing that stood in the way was the old, you know, nation states and the FDA and the CDC, you know, doing things like taking four-day weekends during the emergency where you can count the number of people dying per day.

00:17:01.000 But they're so entrenched in the sort of 1970s Soviet bureaucratic thing of, oh, we've all got to get out to our dachas.

00:17:06.000 You know, this is Soviet Pioneer Day.

00:17:08.000 You can't expect us to work and save lives.

00:17:11.000 So I think that's proof that the system is absolutely exhausted and it's just ready for people to stop believing it.

00:17:17.000 When you look at the sheer tribalism, you know, like I mentioned, and many people have mentioned, Joe Biden seems to only be talking to one side of the country at this point, because they've basically resigned themselves.

00:17:25.000 Okay, we can't win them over.

00:17:26.000 It's over.

00:17:27.000 We're done.

00:17:27.000 We're done talking.

00:17:28.000 I mean, the tribalism has reached absolutely absurd levels.

00:17:33.000 You know, it's like that right now that people are circulating these old tweets from 2020 of Kamala Harris and like Daily Kos writing about vaccine skepticism.

00:17:42.000 And they're saying like, who would take Trump's vaccine?

00:17:44.000 And now they're the ones screaming like, why won't Trump supporters take the bench?

00:17:47.000 Right, absolutely.

00:17:48.000 Yeah, people are absolutely aligned.

00:17:50.000 I gotta say, you know, perhaps I'm just biased, but I think it is fair to say that it is the rule for the establishment left, but the exception for the right in general.

00:18:02.000 So leftists kind of overlap with a lot of the establishment Democrats.

00:18:06.000 But you look at, you mentioned the Republican Party and their, you know, forever war kind of stuff too.

00:18:10.000 I want to make clear that I don't think that's just the Republicans.

00:18:12.000 I mean, both parties love them forever.

00:18:14.000 But I will say, like, I think as another sign of the collapse or the decay or the change, whatever you want to call it, is Donald Trump's storming into the Republican Party and forcing dramatic changes.

00:18:25.000 And he couldn't have done that in 1980 or 1984.

00:18:29.000 One man with a bunch of bombast can't knock over a healthy system.

00:18:33.000 But the Trump supporters... I don't know if you... Did you hear what Michael Moore said back in 2016?

00:18:38.000 I think I did.

00:18:39.000 I remember being shocked that he was sort of intellectually honest about it for the first time.

00:18:43.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:18:44.000 He basically said that Trump was one of the only people advocating for these factories.

00:18:44.000 It was brilliant.

00:18:49.000 He goes to these auto manufacturers and said, I will tariff you 30% if you try and move these cars out of America.

00:18:54.000 I know, yeah, it felt good for a lot of people for a while.

00:18:57.000 So I think that's one of the big changes to the Republican Party.

00:19:00.000 And they are going to send the biggest F you to the establishment the world has ever heard and they are going

00:19:04.000 to enjoy it The one thing he got wrong was he was like it'll feel good

00:19:07.000 for a week I know yeah, I felt good for a lot of people for a while

00:19:13.000 So I think that's one of the big changes the Republican Party

00:19:16.000 But I think you know, so just to address that point on the left. Do you have many people who are?

00:19:22.000 It's it's crazy how they can't remember what they said last year

00:19:27.000 You know, I started flipping back through 1984 recently, and everyone's read 1984, and there's a problem with reading things.

00:19:34.000 You tend to boil them down to an essence or a logo or something, and things in the world, books, novels, people, have a whole lot of complexity.

00:19:44.000 To actually go back and look at 1984, it's not just sort of a stand-in or a stereotype or a glyph that stands for repressive totalitarianism.

00:19:53.000 There's a lot of detail there.

00:19:56.000 And the detail about how the party just changes the line and everyone, you know, switches on a dime.

00:20:01.000 Oh, it's amazing.

00:20:02.000 And this is what we're seeing.

00:20:03.000 You know, last year, you know, I was one of these internet autists who was paying attention to China in very, very early January, and I think it was late January, When, you know, I started tweeting my 10,000, you know, I'm talking to Tim Pool about I've got 10,000 followers on Twitter.

00:20:18.000 But I said, you know, guys, now is the time to start packing, stockpiling stuff.

00:20:22.000 And people said, you know what?

00:20:23.000 And I said, you know, I don't know that, you know, if it surfaces, but start getting latex gloves in case it does turn out to be surfaces.

00:20:29.000 I don't know if it's airborne, but definitely start getting masks, you know, P90, P95.

00:20:33.000 Start laying in food.

00:20:34.000 I'm not saying there will be supply chain disruptions, but when you don't know.

00:20:37.000 And at that time, the left and oh, gosh, what was he?

00:20:42.000 Ezra Klein?

00:20:44.000 Yes, thank you.

00:20:44.000 I think it was either Ezra Klein, or if it wasn't Ezra Klein, it was one of the other Ezra Kleins, was absolutely poo-pooing this idea of, you know, masks do nothing, and even if they do anything, you should leave it for the professionals.

00:20:53.000 There's no reason to have a mask, and the fear that you'll generate, that's the real danger.

00:20:57.000 And then they all pivot on a dime when, you know, the new line comes down from the, you know, there used to be journo-list, if you're familiar with that, you know, 10 or whatever.

00:21:05.000 The journo-list.

00:21:06.000 The journo-list.

00:21:07.000 Oh yeah, there's more than people know, man.

00:21:08.000 Right, and so certainly there are dozens more journalists, and when you see... Well, let's break that down real quick.

00:21:13.000 Sure.

00:21:14.000 He's not saying journalist, he's saying journo-list.

00:21:18.000 I think Ezra Klein made this, right?

00:21:21.000 It was a Facebook group where all of these different journalists from different organizations were on one community group together.

00:21:29.000 So one person would come in and say, X happened, and then every single journalist in this group would see it.

00:21:35.000 So they were all wrapped up in the exact same bubble narrative.

00:21:39.000 Completely oblivious to the outside world.

00:21:40.000 There's a wonderful video on YouTube that shows some people on a cable channel reading out a prepared statement and like every five seconds it switches to a different cable channel and the statement continues seamlessly because this was literally a memo that came down from corporate and they wanted every local affiliate to do it.

00:21:57.000 Journalist was effectively the same thing but there wasn't a corporation at the top there was just this little plate or file or hive of journalists and they had Tamara's bullet points every day. 0.68

00:22:07.000 What people don't realize about that is there wasn't one journal list.

00:22:11.000 There was probably 10,000.

00:22:12.000 Right.

00:22:13.000 I was personally on several of them.

00:22:14.000 Yeah, I think I still am on one.

00:22:16.000 There were a bunch of different ones.

00:22:17.000 There was one that was about, it was like citizen journalist centric.

00:22:21.000 So it was basically 10 or 20,000 people with several who were very active and many who just followed.

00:22:28.000 And they would post things and they would all see it.

00:22:29.000 And then sure enough, these articles pop up everywhere.

00:22:32.000 But I do want to, with that being said, go back to the point you were making about, you know, it's time to prepare, it's time to buy supplies.

00:22:39.000 Because early on last year, you know, one of the sponsors we often do is for a food bucket, Safe and Ready Meals.

00:22:47.000 This is not, I'm not promoting them, I'm just mentioning that we have promoted them in the past.

00:22:51.000 And this is like a 25-year food bucket.

00:22:52.000 Now, I don't like doing promos.

00:22:55.000 Like, legit, I'll get sent, like, hey, Tim, would you want to advertise for this?

00:22:58.000 And I'm like, no, I can't do that company, you know?

00:23:00.000 Like, I have to actually think there's utility there.

00:23:02.000 And so this company, I thought, was actually fantastic.

00:23:05.000 Because the way I describe it to people is, you know, you've got a first aid kit, right?

00:23:08.000 Oh, I've got multiple first aid kits.

00:23:10.000 How many?

00:23:11.000 I don't know, four or five, including trauma bandages.

00:23:14.000 I go into that in my books in that, you know, I've got a small first aid kit in my workshop.

00:23:18.000 I've got a beefier first aid kit in my chainsaw supplies.

00:23:22.000 Now here's a question though.

00:23:23.000 How often do you use them?

00:23:25.000 You know, there's sort of the 80-20 rule or the power law in that, you know, I probably cut my fingertips or something every, you know, two weeks or so.

00:23:32.000 I think I actually did it.

00:23:34.000 Once every two weeks, you might need a bandage.

00:23:36.000 How often do you eat food?

00:23:38.000 I think you eat food three times a day.

00:23:41.000 And so it's crazy to me that there's this negative connotation, this negative perspective on having emergency food or whatever.

00:23:49.000 And I'm like, you should have a thing of water, food, and a first aid kit.

00:23:53.000 And you know, you look at what happened with those around the time.

00:23:55.000 Actually, I don't remember when this was.

00:23:56.000 It was flooding in Houston.

00:23:57.000 It was really, really bad.

00:23:58.000 And I'm like, some of these people are like trapped in their houses for a long period of time.

00:24:02.000 You're going to be happy.

00:24:02.000 You can crack open that freeze dried sealed bag and now you're gonna need some power to boil the water and stuff like that.

00:24:09.000 But I look at it like it was strange to me that the establishment doesn't prepare for anything.

00:24:15.000 You know, you mentioned they turn on a dime.

00:24:17.000 The party says so be it and they all just agree

00:24:21.000 and they're all in this mentality that no matter what happens,

00:24:23.000 they will always be safe.

00:24:25.000 And that to me is insane.

00:24:27.000 Look, you know, you know what I think?

00:24:27.000 Absolutely.

00:24:29.000 Here's what I always say about buying beans and rice

00:24:31.000 or these emergency food kits.

00:24:33.000 If you're in your absolute worst case scenario, OK.

00:24:37.000 Admittedly, your worst case, you have food, right?

00:24:38.000 You know, but in the absolute best case scenario, you literally, you just eat it.

00:24:43.000 Yeah.

00:24:44.000 Like I used to say, look, worst case scenario, just eat the food.

00:24:46.000 Right.

00:24:46.000 And then I realized, no, the worst case scenario would be the actual apocalypse and then you'll eat the food.

00:24:49.000 Right.

00:24:50.000 But if you buy these things and then nothing happens, I, the other day I just cracked an open and made some stroganoff.

00:24:55.000 It was delicious.

00:24:55.000 Put some chicken in there and some spices.

00:24:57.000 And I've absolutely done the same thing, not recently, but I've had a pile, one or two boxes of MREs sitting around the house forever since shortly after I got out of college.

00:25:06.000 And every now and then you'd be sort of working late and suddenly it's 10 o'clock and there's no food in the fridge and there's no takeout.

00:25:13.000 I've eaten an MRE at 10.30 in the evening more than once.

00:25:15.000 Yeah.

00:25:16.000 You know, it's not something you want to eat all the time, but they're not bad.

00:25:18.000 Yeah.

00:25:19.000 It's good self-limiting in that way.

00:25:20.000 You're never going to be tempted to eat up all of your MREs.

00:25:22.000 Well, let's talk about this, you know, right now.

00:25:25.000 You mentioned in the previous segment that we could be coming to this 500 year end cycle.

00:25:30.000 I mean, you've heard of the fourth turning.

00:25:32.000 Thucydides trap.

00:25:32.000 Yep.

00:25:33.000 And now we've got the MIT study that everyone's talking about.

00:25:36.000 2040, the collapse is coming or whatever.

00:25:38.000 There's yet another one.

00:25:39.000 I'm going to mispronounce the word, but it's like Korolev wave theory.

00:25:42.000 Oh, we should add it to the list.

00:25:43.000 We can talk about that one.

00:25:45.000 You know, I think I ended up picking this up from an interstitial essay in a book of John Barnes' short stories like 30 years ago.

00:25:54.000 And the idea is that there's a bunch of different ways, sort of sinusoids, and some have four-year cycles, another 12.

00:26:00.000 And, you know, at some point, if you've ever, you know, taken calculus or done a Fourier, you know, decomposition of something, You get a whole bunch of curves and they start to peak up at certain points.

00:26:09.000 And, you know, the theory is that all of these curves are going to peak, you know, sometime way off in the far future like 2025 or something.

00:26:18.000 And, you know, this theory was written down in the 70s or 80s.

00:26:21.000 And I think we're seeing a lot of it come true.

00:26:23.000 You know, stuff is getting crazy.

00:26:25.000 So do you think, you know, you mentioned last year you said people should buy stuff.

00:26:28.000 Yeah.

00:26:28.000 What would you say right now?

00:26:29.000 Do you think people should be stocking up or something like that?

00:26:31.000 Let me back up a little bit.

00:26:32.000 I always want to avoid panic, right?

00:26:33.000 Yeah, yeah.

00:26:35.000 Panic never helps anything.

00:26:36.000 I think that anti-fragility is a good thing instead of the nesting talent.

00:26:39.000 Love that idea.

00:26:41.000 And so, you know, people ask, are you a prepper?

00:26:43.000 I'm like, well, you know, I'm not prepared to survive the zombie apocalypse.

00:26:47.000 I don't want to survive a nuclear war.

00:26:49.000 You don't want to.

00:26:52.000 I'm saying maybe for humor, I'd rather not die if there is a nuclear war.

00:26:55.000 But the point is, all sorts of things happen and it's always better to be prepared for them.

00:26:59.000 One thing I talk about just, you know, this isn't a survivalist or a prepper book.

00:27:03.000 And I've got some sort of anti-prepping thoughts.

00:27:05.000 And that's Escape from the City.

00:27:06.000 Escape from the City.

00:27:06.000 Right.

00:27:08.000 This is a recent homesteading book that I wrote.

00:27:10.000 I've been on the homestead for eight years.

00:27:12.000 And there's two volumes, Volume 1 and Volume 2.

00:27:15.000 Wow.

00:27:15.000 And it's basically one long book, about 1,300 pages long.

00:27:19.000 Wow.

00:27:20.000 And it's sort of massive in the amount of detail inside.

00:27:24.000 The table of contents alone is 30 pages.

00:27:27.000 So if you've got any interest in homesteading or prepping, I'd recommend picking it up.

00:27:32.000 It's Escape the City.

00:27:33.000 It's on Amazon.

00:27:34.000 And you can just Google it.

00:27:35.000 They made prepping a dirty word.

00:27:37.000 Yeah.

00:27:38.000 You know, the problem with anything is that it gets an ideological stink.

00:27:42.000 And so there's always this constant recycling of language, whether it's the name for a minority

00:27:47.000 or an intellectually challenged person or a hobby.

00:27:52.000 And so prepping, there's always an impetus in the media to find someone and point at

00:27:58.000 them and laugh.

00:27:59.000 And then everyone laughs along with you.

00:28:00.000 And, you know, sort of the journalist goes out that we all agree as a society that, you

00:28:04.000 know, preppers or furries or whatever, you know, we can punch down at them because they're 0.92

00:28:07.000 a bunch of weirdos in the same way that we're punching down at people who are buying masks 0.98

00:28:11.000 last January.

00:28:13.000 So anyway, my thoughts about prepping are there's a power law in that absolute huge catastrophic things happen very, very rarely, but sort of very small annoyances happen more often.

00:28:24.000 So if someone says, you know, I want to be prepared, what should I do?

00:28:26.000 Should I get a zombie hunter extreme machete?

00:28:29.000 Should I get a long range sniper rifle?

00:28:31.000 I'm like, you know, maybe you should get $500 in the checking account because You know, people get laid off, like, once every five years.

00:28:37.000 So you're going to be laid off from your job, you know, in the next five years, certainly in the next ten years.

00:28:42.000 So lock down how you're going to survive that without, you know, losing your lifestyle.

00:28:47.000 You know, people lose their power once every ten or fifteen years.

00:28:49.000 Plan for that.

00:28:50.000 That's not expensive.

00:28:51.000 You get a $500 generator, a $300 transfer switch.

00:28:55.000 But then you keep going out on these things, and they're less and less frequent, but the chance, you know, hopefully we'll all live to be 70 or 80 or 90, and a thing that only happens once every 15 years, that's going to happen to you several times in your life.

00:29:07.000 And we in the West, we've been, you know, rich and protected by oceans, and so we've been very, you know, blessed, and we've not had a lot of the bad stuff that normal people have at the same rate that they have it.

00:29:16.000 But I wrote this book starting several years ago and one thing I said is,

00:29:19.000 hey, we get plagues about once every hundred years. We had the Spanish flu in 1918 and I

00:29:24.000 went back several other plagues. So you should be prepared because there's a decent chance

00:29:27.000 there'll be a plague in your lifetime. Do you hear about this? This story happened

00:29:32.000 There was an algal bloom in the Great Lakes.

00:29:34.000 And within 40- which- is Toledo on the lake?

00:29:37.000 I can't remember which city it was.

00:29:38.000 It's like Western Ohio.

00:29:39.000 But is it on one of the Great Lakes?

00:29:40.000 Cleveland's on the lake.

00:29:41.000 Sandusky's on the lake.

00:29:41.000 Cleveland.

00:29:43.000 There was, within 40 miles, I guess, of all these cities, no drinking water.

00:29:47.000 Wow.

00:29:47.000 Because what happened was as soon as the news broke, as soon as people found out, they immediately started raiding local stores for bottled water and moving further and further out to get more and more water.

00:29:58.000 And then within 40 miles, no water.

00:30:00.000 What do you drink?

00:30:01.000 My wife made a really interesting point that one of the reasons to prep is not because it's the only way to get the supplies.

00:30:07.000 The reason to prep is so that you don't have to make terrible trade-offs when you need the supplies.

00:30:11.000 And you know, the terrible trade-off could be as simple as paying $10 a gallon for gasoline to run your generator.

00:30:17.000 Or it could be a lot worse.

00:30:18.000 And I mean, you know, people, especially women in refugee camps all the time, have to make terrible trade-offs.

00:30:23.000 You know, I went crazy with vinegar and salt.

00:30:25.000 People are laughing at honey.

00:30:28.000 Like, 100 pounds of honey.

00:30:29.000 Because if it does go down, I want to provide it for the neighbors.

00:30:33.000 I want the entire community to be preserved as much as possible so we can barter.

00:30:37.000 So that if they have all the ammo, If they have, you know, whatever, we can all kind of come together, and those things become extremely valuable.

00:30:43.000 Ian bought an absurd amount of salt, vinegar, and honey.

00:30:46.000 Never go back.

00:30:47.000 And we laugh mostly at the vinegar.

00:30:49.000 Mostly the vinegar.

00:30:50.000 Because, like, I don't know what you do with it.

00:30:53.000 However, I do understand it can be used for a lot of chemical processes.

00:30:57.000 So it's a funny idea that you'd have so much vinegar, because how often do you really use it in some recipes?

00:31:02.000 But in actuality, It lasts forever, doesn't it?

00:31:04.000 As far as I know, yeah.

00:31:05.000 It does, and I'm going to jump in and defend Ian, because when you get vinegar, you can pickle anything.

00:31:09.000 So when your harvest comes in all over four weeks, but you want to store it for the winter, just pile that under vinegar.

00:31:15.000 Is that all you do?

00:31:15.000 You just put vinegar in?

00:31:16.000 I thought you needed brine?

00:31:18.000 Brine is salt.

00:31:19.000 Ian's cover. No, exactly.

00:31:20.000 That's so yeah, I mean, honey never goes bad, right?

00:31:23.000 Right. Salt is salt is you definitely need salt.

00:31:25.000 Like, you know, where where where would you get your salt in your

00:31:28.000 diet if you're, you know, in an area like this, you know, in

00:31:31.000 Appalachia?

00:31:31.000 Yeah. Is salt naturally occurring or, you know, you know,

00:31:35.000 if there was a disaster or something and you had to

00:31:37.000 improvise, I would go with road But other than that, you know, you're going to be trading people who are, you know, bringing in salt from the ocean.

00:31:44.000 Salt was the currency at one point, five, six thousand years ago.

00:31:49.000 I was thinking about this earlier because we bought some deer salt licks.

00:31:52.000 You just, you know, chuck them out and leave on them or something.

00:31:52.000 Oh, yeah.

00:31:54.000 And I see the deer is going nuts from because there's no salt.

00:31:57.000 And so the deer, when they find salt, there's a warning on it saying, make sure you put out several.

00:31:57.000 Right, right.

00:32:02.000 Otherwise, the deer will fight each other to get it.

00:32:04.000 Because there's no salt.

00:32:05.000 So imagine if you didn't have salt.

00:32:07.000 People don't realize.

00:32:07.000 See, this is the crazy thing.

00:32:08.000 And even, you know, we get out of the city.

00:32:11.000 We're in the middle of nowhere.

00:32:12.000 People still don't realize that we're dependent on so much.

00:32:15.000 Like vitamin C, for instance.

00:32:17.000 I don't know where we would source vitamin C out here.

00:32:20.000 We could probably try and grow some stuff.

00:32:22.000 Maybe because we're more modernized, we can grow stuff indoors and try and grow some citrus or something.

00:32:26.000 But where would we get vitamin C?

00:32:27.000 What's your recommendation on that?

00:32:29.000 For that, again, I'm not a super prepper, but rose hips have vitamin C and we've got roses in the yard.

00:32:36.000 Rose hips? 0.99

00:32:37.000 Eat a bunch of roses.

00:32:39.000 Boil it in tea.

00:32:41.000 Can you boil grass?

00:32:43.000 Can you work with grass for food?

00:32:44.000 I know you can't eat it directly because of the excess of cellulose.

00:32:47.000 Yeah, I don't think there's many calories in grass.

00:32:49.000 I would feed grass to my sheep and then eat the sheep.

00:32:54.000 Chickens eat grass.

00:32:54.000 That's the easiest way to do it.

00:32:55.000 Yes, they do.

00:32:56.000 But they can't subsist off of grass, right?

00:32:59.000 You know, chickens will get a lot of their calories from bugs and worms. 0.99

00:33:03.000 And so we've got our chickens in a pen, but there's a thing that a lot of people do, which is a chicken tractor.

00:33:08.000 And that has nothing to do with a diesel-powered tractor.

00:33:10.000 It's basically a mobile pen with wheels on it.

00:33:13.000 And the idea is that you put your chickens in this pen, and then you just go out, and either with your riding mower or your tractor, or just by hand, You move it 10 or 15 feet a day.

00:33:20.000 Chicken city on wheels! 0.62

00:33:22.000 Exactly!

00:33:22.000 People have recommended it, and I've heard that people will put it over where they want to farm, let the chickens tear it up, then move it, and then they can plant stuff in it, and they fertilize it.

00:33:31.000 So I've got a thought about this, and this is something I go into my book.

00:33:34.000 There's some utility in this.

00:33:36.000 Chickens are great, pigs are great.

00:33:38.000 I don't have pigs this year, but in general I have pigs like every other year.

00:33:41.000 But people sometimes want to say, oh man, you know, and this is sort of like after a deep bong hit, you know, the system, you know, nature gives you everything you need, man.

00:33:49.000 The pigs will furrow, you know, they'll turn up the soil for you so you don't need to till.

00:33:54.000 And there's a little bit of truth here, but there's a whole lot more wishful thinking.

00:33:57.000 And I've never seen anyone who says that pigs will till your soil who actually have their own pigs.

00:34:04.000 It's to some degree wishful thinking. 0.98

00:34:07.000 So the pigs are no good. 0.98

00:34:08.000 Pigs are great, but pigs do not replace tractors or rototillers or plows. 0.95

00:34:13.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:34:14.000 So if, you know, what should the average person be buying, like, in time, right?

00:34:19.000 Well, let me slow down.

00:34:20.000 We were previously talking about a dramatic change in the system.

00:34:24.000 Let's start from there.

00:34:25.000 What does this change look like?

00:34:26.000 Do you think... We've talked a lot about, like, Balkanization.

00:34:29.000 Yeah.

00:34:30.000 And I want to be clear on this.

00:34:31.000 It's like the political factions basically choose their specific region and they break apart and move.

00:34:37.000 Do you think it's something like that?

00:34:38.000 What do you think we're looking at?

00:34:39.000 So, you know, first of all, I don't want to really be certain about this.

00:34:42.000 I always find people who are absolutely certain to be a little, you know, I've got a head-scratching attitude about that, that, you know, I don't know, man, you haven't seen the future.

00:34:49.000 But I think the interesting thing about information technology, whether we're talking about the Gutenberg Press or whether we're talking about, you know, TCPIP or Twitter or whatever, is that it connects people who are further and further apart with lower and lower latency.

00:35:02.000 So if you want to look at, like, 1776, you know, people in different towns in Massachusetts had a lot more in common with each other than they had with people back in, you know, Wales or, you know, various parts of England, because they could only communicate with a few letters, you know, with a latency of six months or so.

00:35:17.000 And so that made it very easy for the regions to sort of grow apart and have their own political cultures.

00:35:23.000 And the weird thing about the high-speed connection we have is that we have, you know, two tribes, obviously red and blue, but then a lot more tribes, you know, if you go to, you know, some furry fandom thing.

00:35:33.000 Right, yellow.

00:35:33.000 Yellow.

00:35:34.000 You know, you pick anything, whether it's, you know, Mustang engine, you know, modification community, or whether it's Yeah, you'll find that these tribes are geographically distributed.

00:35:46.000 So I think that we might be headed to a world where the Westphalian nation state, where all of the nations have crisp little borders around them, is perhaps fading and we're going to a new world where the tribes are interleaved and distributed across and on top of each other.

00:35:59.000 I've been thinking a lot about that dissolution of the nation-state since about 2006.

00:36:02.000 Really, since Internet video, when I realized how powerful and connected we are now with video chat.

00:36:06.000 Like, how do you see it happening without a... Because the downside was I don't want a one-world government that's totalitarian.

00:36:13.000 Right.

00:36:13.000 Now I'm looking at more of a decentralized localization.

00:36:15.000 I mean, you obviously work with crypto.

00:36:17.000 Like, how do you see something like that working?

00:36:20.000 You know, again, you know, I'm going to say I can speculate since you're asking me to speculate.

00:36:20.000 Right.

00:36:25.000 You know, if you go back to the medieval period, there was this interesting thing where There was less of a crisp boundary in the Westphalian sense.

00:36:33.000 You might have somebody who was a, you know, the example I said before the show started, is you can imagine that there was someone, you know, peddling out on the street and the guards come up and say, hey, it's Sunday, you can't sell stuff.

00:36:44.000 And he, you know, holds up his warrant and he says, you know, actually I'm a Jew, so I'm, you know, bound by different... Doctrine?

00:36:53.000 Doctrine, right.

00:36:54.000 Religious code.

00:36:55.000 But I'm also tied in a little bit to your political system and I've got a warrant from the Duke who says, you know,

00:37:00.000 Yes, I'm a Jew with his permission. I'm doing things and the answer is oh, okay

00:37:03.000 So you're on the same territory as people who are under this other power, but you're under a different sort of

00:37:08.000 chain of command Whoa, and I can't imagine that being a good thing. Um

00:37:12.000 You know when the world changes good or bad doesn't really matter

00:37:16.000 You know, it comes out of incentives.

00:37:18.000 I think it might be a decent thing.

00:37:19.000 Um, I think we're going that way.

00:37:21.000 Yeah.

00:37:21.000 I mean, you, you look at the, the racial identitarianism from the establishment in this country and it really does look like that's where we're going.

00:37:27.000 Yeah.

00:37:28.000 I mean, you know, right now we're already in that, you know, one person at Harvard, uh, is under a different law than someone else, depending on, you know, his skin color, um, you know, his admission there, the behavioral norms that's expected and everything else.

00:37:38.000 Or, actually, you can't even get into Harvard if you're Asian, for the most part. 1.00

00:37:41.000 So, yeah, absolutely.

00:37:42.000 Different rules just based on what you look like.

00:37:45.000 And, you know, there's little hints of that, that, you know, if someone is from overseas and they've got diplomatic plates, we're here, you know, not too far from D.C., and I saw that.

00:37:53.000 So I think that polycentric law overlapping in the same geographic location is something that has happened before in the Middle Ages, and I think it could happen again.

00:38:02.000 I'm not making a strong prediction.

00:38:04.000 And this ties into, we were talking about anarcho-capitalism, and one of the sort of leading luminaries of anarcho-capitalism is David Friedman, the son of Milton Friedman.

00:38:13.000 And he's written a bunch of great books on the topic.

00:38:15.000 The seminal one is The Machinery of Freedom, which was one of the books that, along with Robert Heinlein's The Moon is a Harsh Mistress, really sort of created my worldview.

00:38:24.000 But he's written some other good ones.

00:38:26.000 Law's Order, and one I wrote a few months ago, was Legal Systems Very Different from Our Own.

00:38:31.000 So, I'm not sure.

00:38:32.000 We'll see what happens over the coming decades.

00:38:33.000 I could see like an augmented reality system where when you look around, people have like a different aura if they're under different jurisdiction law or something.

00:38:41.000 But my wonder is, what if the power goes out?

00:38:44.000 Would that system function?

00:38:45.000 Could it function?

00:38:46.000 Do you think it's something that... You know, what if the power goes out gets back to sort of robustness and anti-fragility?

00:38:53.000 You know, I expect that long term technology is going to stick around and that we will be living in a hyper-networked world.

00:39:00.000 So that sort of pulls in the opposite direction of the sort of localism and the anti-fragile homesteading that we're talking about.

00:39:06.000 So I don't know.

00:39:08.000 You know, in investing, some people talk about a barbell strategy where you want to have a lot of your money in sort of safe, reasonable things like index funds, but you also want to have a small amount and really potential high payoff bets.

00:39:20.000 You know, this is the venture capital model.

00:39:22.000 and politically looking towards the future on the one hand you know sort of

00:39:26.000 I hope for everyone has you know human rights and the power grid stays up and

00:39:30.000 the food supplies are good but I also have sheep that I can eat my own orchard

00:39:34.000 and I can make my own wine in case it goes bad. We got to get off the grid the

00:39:38.000 central so we're getting off a centralized economy centralized law

00:39:40.000 centralized electricity it's got to be. So let's let's you know a lot about Rome.

00:39:45.000 I know some yeah.

00:39:47.000 When Rome collapsed, as you mentioned before, latency, distance between communications was a very long time.

00:39:53.000 Absolutely.

00:39:54.000 And then you end up with their own political cultures.

00:39:56.000 And then you mentioned now we're in this new era of technology.

00:39:59.000 It's going to be really interesting, in my opinion, just to elaborate on that idea, when you have one faction of people, maybe it's a family, and they're anarcho-capitalists.

00:40:09.000 And they're online communicating with the anarcho-capitalist community.

00:40:12.000 But they're decentralized.

00:40:13.000 Their neighbor is a socialist.

00:40:16.000 Their other neighbor is a conservative.

00:40:18.000 You know, free enterprise, sort of, but still some government control.

00:40:22.000 How will there be cohesive law if people right next to each other are just at odds?

00:40:29.000 It's a great question, and I'll take a stab at answering it.

00:40:31.000 But again, I want to be clear that I'm not predicting that.

00:40:34.000 This is definitely the way it's going to happen.

00:40:36.000 David Friedman talked about this, and he's the one who came up with sort of polycentric legal order.

00:40:41.000 And what he said is, you know, you, Tim, you know, might subscribe to one legal system where you want to keep trespassers off your land.

00:40:46.000 That's pretty important to you.

00:40:48.000 Someone else might subscribe to a legal system that has a English right to roam. 0.95

00:40:53.000 And then we, in England, apparently, if you've got a certain amount of land, you can't keep people off it.

00:40:58.000 They're allowed to just walk right across as the sort of traditional right of the Englishman.

00:41:02.000 So what happens when these, you know, things come in conflict?

00:41:05.000 Like, one guy says, I've got an absolute right to walk across your backyard, and you say, I've got an absolute right to keep you out.

00:41:10.000 And, you know, theoretically, someone who wanted to diss on anarcho-capitalism would say, well, you know, then of course you'd get a gun battle, and that's why anarcho-capitalism is the worst possible political ideology in the world.

00:41:21.000 But, you know, in the real world when corporations run into things like, you know, you've stolen

00:41:25.000 my intellectual property because I think that my patent on, you know, how resistors work

00:41:29.000 is, you know, blah, blah, blah.

00:41:30.000 And you say, no, I'm using a different thing.

00:41:32.000 It looks similar, but it's not.

00:41:33.000 We don't get guns and duke this out.

00:41:36.000 We you know, we just hire lawyers and they settle it.

00:41:39.000 So I think that that would happen now.

00:41:42.000 Now, the next parody is, OK, Travis is arguing that any time two people have a disagreement about trespassing in a garden, like, is there an easement or is there not, then there's a $90,000 lawsuit that takes three years.

00:41:53.000 And I think there's game theory where when something is iterated, there is not a need

00:41:59.000 to hash it out time and time and time again.

00:42:01.000 Both sides see, you know, really a negotiated solution here and some rules of the road make

00:42:05.000 sense.

00:42:06.000 So if you look at any place where firms interact, they either come up with their own laws or

00:42:11.000 they come up with their own governance bodies to help them interact with each other.

00:42:14.000 Because, you know, if you look at evolution, animals don't battle to the death with each

00:42:19.000 other.

00:42:20.000 and they both want to dominate the herd of ewes.

00:42:24.000 It doesn't make sense if one ram is aiming to kill the other because he's likely to get severely damaged in that.

00:42:29.000 The utility maximizing compromise is some sort of dominance display and head bashing and then one of them sulks off.

00:42:36.000 Because he can live to try again another day. 1.00

00:42:38.000 And I think people are not idiots. 0.99

00:42:40.000 People do not get into gun battles. 0.99

00:42:42.000 I somewhat disagree.

00:42:45.000 We talked about the wacky laws recently, where you've got some places where it's like you can't take a shower on Tuesdays.

00:42:51.000 And it actually made sense because back in the day, the local aquifer was like, you know, we, like they said, we have to have one day where nobody uses water so it can replenish a little bit.

00:42:59.000 But now we have better water systems.

00:43:01.000 We have tons of water.

00:43:02.000 So we produce these laws based on the specifics that are happening in our areas.

00:43:06.000 So you have a community and they build a culture.

00:43:09.000 They build rules and laws with, for each other, by each other, and sometimes in disagreement with each other, but understanding the problem.

00:43:15.000 Hey, look, a bear keeps coming in.

00:43:17.000 So we're going to pass a law.

00:43:18.000 You can't have picnic baskets lying around wherever.

00:43:21.000 Well, now you've got somebody who's on the internet, and he does not subscribe to any of his immediate community.

00:43:27.000 When they go outside, they're clashing, and one guy's on nothing but socialist forums, and one guy's on nothing but, you know, ANCAP forums, and so they're completely at odds locally.

00:43:36.000 I don't necessarily think that they would just agree to resolve the solution because the resolution itself is part of the local community and culture and law.

00:43:44.000 That's a great argument, and I follow it, and it's convincing.

00:43:44.000 Sure.

00:43:48.000 So now, the great thing about pontificating while sitting on my butt is I can say, OK, if you didn't like that answer, I've got another one. 0.98

00:43:55.000 And the other one is that just as the cost of information transmission is falling, the cost of picking up and moving your butt is falling. 0.90

00:44:02.000 I moved from Massachusetts, where the local community and the norms and the politics were very much not to my liking, and I moved to New Hampshire eight years ago.

00:44:10.000 A lot of ANCAPs in New Hampshire.

00:44:12.000 There are.

00:44:13.000 There's a joke.

00:44:14.000 I don't know if I would necessarily say that I'm part of the Free State Project, but I'm certainly FSP adjacent, and I know a lot of FSP people.

00:44:21.000 And there's a joke, you know, what's the difference between a libertarian and an ANCAP?

00:44:24.000 And the answer is, you know, six months in New Hampshire.

00:44:26.000 So, you know, I think picking up and moving to be around people who are like you is a good thing.

00:44:32.000 And there's a phrase, the great sort, which is mostly talking about demographics and mating, but I think that to some degree it's also happening geographically.

00:44:40.000 I completely agree.

00:44:41.000 I mean, look at how many people moved to Texas recently.

00:44:42.000 Right.

00:44:43.000 Joe Rogan and Elon Musk announced it, but a ton of people, there's a lot of regular people that moved.

00:44:47.000 And one of the things I've warned, though, is that while, you know, Joe Rogan and Elon Musk are, they seem to be left-leaning individuals.

00:44:53.000 I mean, Elon Musk calls himself a socialist, whether he is or not, I don't know. 0.86

00:44:56.000 It's funny considering he's a master troll. 0.78

00:44:58.000 That's right, right, right.

00:44:59.000 But the people they bring with them when they move their companies and their jobs, they bring people with them in their periphery who are definitely not going to agree with exactly what happens there in Texas.

00:45:10.000 You know, that being said, I do think there's a great sort happening.

00:45:10.000 But I digress.

00:45:13.000 I mean, look, we moved.

00:45:14.000 We moved effectively to West Virginia.

00:45:17.000 I was living in New York City only a few years ago, moved to the Philly suburbs.

00:45:21.000 Now we're in the mountains, you know, essentially.

00:45:24.000 Essentially, I say that because we're in the tri-state.

00:45:26.000 It's a beautiful country, by the way.

00:45:27.000 I loved the drive out here.

00:45:28.000 Saw the deer.

00:45:29.000 Every day I look outside, there's a family of deer doing their thing.

00:45:31.000 And, uh, you know, I wanted to get away from the city.

00:45:33.000 So we move closer and closer to people who are more and more like-minded.

00:45:37.000 For me, I would say it's not necessarily that the people around here are like-minded, but we agree to leave each other alone.

00:45:44.000 Right.

00:45:45.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:45:45.000 Which is big.

00:45:46.000 Where I keep finding the problem, or a problem, regarding this whole concept of decentralized law is if a community wants to pollute the air, because that can affect the entire globe if it's done on a mass enough scale.

00:45:59.000 If they're pumping methane and carbon and, you know, radioactive materials up into the atmosphere to produce just pure industry, like hundreds of thousands of people, like for decades, could just destroy things like thousands of miles away.

00:46:10.000 China.

00:46:10.000 Or polluting the water, like the ocean, like dumping.

00:46:13.000 So a lot of the plastic waste is in the antenna.

00:46:16.000 I was going to go there next.

00:46:16.000 Yeah, India and China, plastic waste.

00:46:18.000 We've got all of these rules against having, you know, plastic straws in the U.S. and really

00:46:21.000 it's all coming from just one small place.

00:46:23.000 So are we ultimately, will we need a global, like an overseer?

00:46:28.000 So you know, my answer to this is that freedom can only exist on the frontier and you know,

00:46:35.000 America has got a really unique libertarian culture.

00:46:37.000 You find a few libertarians in other places, but it's endemic to, you know, the United States and that's because of our culture.

00:46:44.000 We ran into a, you know, quote-unquote empty, which is, you know, the Western Hemisphere was empty because of the tragedy of communicable diseases.

00:46:53.000 But we evolved this idea of a frontier because we had a frontier, and that's why you can sort of never really communicate about some of these topics with people in other parts of the country.

00:47:03.000 And so, if I may plug something else, Tim introduced me as an author, and the first things I wrote before the homesteading books were two anarcho-capitalistic novels which pretty much have the thesis that we can only achieve freedom out on the frontier.

00:47:17.000 So the first one is The Powers of the Earth, which won the Prometheus Award for Best Novel.

00:47:22.000 2018, and the sequel is Causes of Separation, which won the Prometheus Award in 2019.

00:47:27.000 I think you are correct about that with the freedom.

00:47:29.000 The way I've described it is, you know how gases, the molecules, you know, are bouncing around quite a bit, liquids a little bit, and then solids, they're rigid.

00:47:38.000 Yep.

00:47:39.000 When you look at big cities, I view it as a solid.

00:47:43.000 Yeah.

00:47:43.000 All of these individuals stacked on top of each other, and that room to bounce around erratically, that's your freedom.

00:47:49.000 Yep.

00:47:49.000 The more people surround you, the more you push, and it compresses your sphere of freedom.

00:47:54.000 So it's actually, it's a really, really easy way to explain it.

00:47:57.000 I love your analogy, and because I'm a nerd, I'm going to make it a little nerdier, which is the ideal gas law, which is PV equals NRT.

00:48:04.000 And, you know, it's a great analogy, because one thing that happens when you add more molecules that have this kinetic energy, or when you crush them in tighter space, is the temperature goes up.

00:48:14.000 Right.

00:48:16.000 Yeah, absolutely.

00:48:17.000 Oh yeah.

00:48:18.000 Expands right right you know so we can go to the sort of the Carnot cycle that it pushes out and you know the piston But we're talking about compression so that energy is getting released.

00:48:27.000 Yeah in these way to explain.

00:48:28.000 It is just playing the drums mm-hmm That in order to play the drums you need a massive sphere of freedom You can't do it in the suburbs.

00:48:38.000 You might be able to, but you have to get permission.

00:48:40.000 You have to ask, hey, you guys mind if we're playing the drums?

00:48:41.000 I know, you know, the zoning laws say that, the ordinance says, I can be noisy until 10 p.m., but then your neighbors get mad at you, and then you're fighting with your neighbors.

00:48:49.000 You talk to them, they'll say, okay, play the drums, but only between this hours.

00:48:51.000 Or you, okay, make noise, but only between this hours.

00:48:54.000 You can't play drums in the city.

00:48:55.000 Right.

00:48:55.000 You got one person above you, one to your left, to your right, and one behind you.

00:48:59.000 and you play the drums and they're going to be like, are you nuts? It's not about, I can sort

00:49:04.000 of hear it. It's you're literally banging next door to me.

00:49:07.000 Like turn your music. It's a movie trope. So people are stacked on top of each other. There's

00:49:12.000 no room for freedoms.

00:49:14.000 I absolutely agree.

00:49:15.000 great. One of.

00:49:17.000 There's a dozen or five dozen reasons that I don't want to live in a city and I can't stand the city, but one of them is that I'm an introvert.

00:49:26.000 I know people who often propose systems, like I've got one friend who is proposing a hackerspace, and my answer to a hackerspace is, I have a hackerspace, it's my garage.

00:49:33.000 I've got MIG welders and bandsaws and lathes and everything I want to do, and so anytime I want to do a project, the tools are there and I'm first in line and I don't have to wait for anyone else.

00:49:43.000 And I think that one of the reasons that he likes the idea of a hackerspace is because all of these things are up for negotiation.

00:49:49.000 We get to come together as a community and decide the rules for how we should do this.

00:49:53.000 We get to come together as a community.

00:49:54.000 So what I would see as a cost, which is the interactions and the negotiations, is for him a benefit.

00:49:59.000 And I think a lot of people who love cities actually love the fact that you have to negotiate everything.

00:50:06.000 They talk about a certain sense of community, and that's what makes New York City great.

00:50:10.000 The fact that when one person vomits on the subway, that everyone else helps everyone else walk around it.

00:50:17.000 I don't like interacting, so if I want to play the drums and get my Neil Peardon, I don't want to have to talk to ten other people about it.

00:50:23.000 Regarding PV-NRT, this is a little bit of an aside.

00:50:26.000 I'd like to hear what you think about this.

00:50:27.000 When you increase the pressure, it either is going to enhance the temperature or expand the system.

00:50:33.000 But it's just for tubular systems, the way that was written out, to get water.

00:50:33.000 Yep.

00:50:36.000 I think it's to get water out of wells or something.

00:50:38.000 So, you know, PV equals NRT, the ideal gas law, is what you would use to describe a piston in a cylinder, whether it's an internal combustion engine or a Stirling engine.

00:50:47.000 But it would also apply to say a balloon.

00:50:50.000 So is it possible that as the balloon expands, it causes the expansion causes friction, which

00:50:56.000 is energy from outside of the system to cause it to heat up faster, which causes it to expand

00:51:00.000 faster, which causes more friction, which causes more heat and a faster, so you get

00:51:04.000 acceleration or inflation.

00:51:09.000 And so what an inflated system, I think it hasn't been written yet.

00:51:12.000 I think what you're saying is that the more people live in close proximity, the faster

00:51:16.000 through the acceleration towards collapse.

00:51:18.000 Well, maybe.

00:51:20.000 What I'm getting at is I think that in order to explain free energy, this is totally off topic, I'm sorry, but I want to talk about PV and RT.

00:51:26.000 We got to move on from that.

00:51:27.000 OK, but in order to get free energy, to explain to the people scientifically, we need to explain inflation in PV and RT.

00:51:34.000 Well, I'm just, I was analogy for people smashed on top of each other and then fighting.

00:51:38.000 They have nowhere to go.

00:51:38.000 It's going to raise the temperature.

00:51:40.000 So I think it's going to happen sooner, this excitement, this collapse, this rage.

00:51:47.000 One thing people need to realize is that we're in a lull period.

00:51:50.000 The election for the president was last year.

00:51:53.000 There's no real cycle right now.

00:51:54.000 This year is where everyone is just exhausted.

00:51:56.000 2022 is the midterms.

00:51:58.000 2023 is the presidential primary cycle, followed by 2024, the presidential cycle.

00:52:02.000 And that is going to be ramping up worse, more extreme than we saw.

00:52:06.000 But I do want to show this story real quick, and the story itself I think is important.

00:52:10.000 I don't think it's the most excitable story, it's from NBC.

00:52:13.000 All children should wear masks in school this fall, even if vaccinated, according to Pediatrics Group.

00:52:19.000 The American Academy of Pediatrics is calling the new guidance a layered approach.

00:52:23.000 We had Steve Bannon on the show.

00:52:25.000 He said on August 15th, when mothers start learning about what their children are being taught, there is going to be a ruckus.

00:52:35.000 I don't know the exact word, but you get the point.

00:52:37.000 People are going to lose it.

00:52:39.000 And he's right.

00:52:41.000 I think a lot of the critical race theory stuff is going to result in moms being shocked and angered, but this mask... It's already happening, yeah. 1.00

00:52:47.000 Oh, absolutely, absolutely.

00:52:48.000 Now, consider when kids are back in school, summer ends.

00:52:51.000 I saw this story, and I saw it on Reddit, and I looked at the comments, because the first thing I thought when I saw that schools wanted to make kids wear masks, even if they're vaccinated, my immediate thought was, There is no way even the establishment leftists, the people who march on a dime for the establishment, are going to be okay with this.

00:53:10.000 Because even though we have seen to great lengths these people are willing to contort themselves, this will snap their brains like a rubber band.

00:53:17.000 And I was right.

00:53:19.000 Surprisingly, the top comments on Reddit, which is mostly leftists, were like, I can't do this anymore, I can't handle this.

00:53:25.000 One response was, I'm a high school teacher, this is insane, I will not be the masked police, I can't handle this.

00:53:30.000 And it was just inundated people saying, this is nuts, it's gone too far, we're losing control.

00:53:34.000 But the funny thing is, they were trying to adhere to the narrative.

00:53:38.000 Like, we have to do it!

00:53:39.000 But their brains were just at that point where the rubber band was gonna snap.

00:53:43.000 Seeing the person say, I'm a high school teacher and I just can't handle it anymore.

00:53:48.000 And I'm like, whether they want to support the narrative or not, the rubber band is going to snap back and then something's going to happen.

00:53:55.000 I don't know what, maybe it actually stabilizes things.

00:53:58.000 I see a lot of doom posting on Twitter from my tribe talking about, oh gosh, you know, the left is going further on this and this, and you know, the 1984 totalitarian, blah, blah, blah.

00:54:06.000 We're all doomed and it's all over.

00:54:08.000 And linear extrapolations I think are always naive and wrong because there are feedback loops.

00:54:13.000 And, you know, as stuff gets crazier, more and more people start saying, you know, I can't buy into this anymore.

00:54:19.000 And I think that we are rapidly approaching that point.

00:54:22.000 The cathedral or the, you know, political organization right now has this plan that has worked for them.

00:54:29.000 And it's worked for 20 or 30 or 40 years, which is you bang more and more about racism.

00:54:33.000 And it motivates the base and it gets people out to march and it motivates donations.

00:54:37.000 And, you know, they did this for all four years of Trump.

00:54:40.000 And, you know, there's a terrible thing.

00:54:42.000 I mean, it's hilarious, but it's also terrible, which is that the word racist and the word Nazi have lost all power.

00:54:48.000 Because, you know, racism is a terrible thing and no one wants to be, you know, called a racist if it's meaningful.

00:54:52.000 And Nazis are, you know, the second worst political thing after communism. 0.80

00:54:56.000 And, you know, that's terrible and no one wants to be called a Nazi. 0.90

00:54:59.000 And so at first they're saying, you know, okay, these literal Nazis marching down the streets

00:55:03.000 are Nazis. And you're like, yes, they are. They're saying terrible things about Jews.

00:55:06.000 You know, that's terrible. And then next they're saying, you know, this guy who's not a Nazi,

00:55:10.000 but he's got some, you know, really bad opinions as a Nazi.

00:55:12.000 You're like, yeah, okay, I guess that's pretty Nazi-like. And then pretty soon, you know, my half 0.53

00:55:16.000 Nigerian friend Fred is being called a Nazi.

00:55:19.000 I'm like, A, he's not a Nazi, and B, that word is now entirely meaningless.

00:55:25.000 Right, right.

00:55:25.000 It doesn't matter anymore.

00:55:26.000 It's not about the word being meaningless.

00:55:27.000 The word can mean whatever it wants.

00:55:29.000 I just don't care.

00:55:29.000 Right.

00:55:30.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:55:31.000 You've done something amazing when half the population doesn't care anymore.

00:55:35.000 It's not about half the population.

00:55:36.000 It's not half the population.

00:55:38.000 I don't care about what these leftist rage bait smear merchants care for the same reason I don't care about what people in Liberia are saying about me.

00:55:47.000 It's a different country and it has nothing to do with me. 0.86

00:55:49.000 So when I see these people who I know live in Wally world and and believe non-sickle garbage, I'm like, they can say whatever they want. 0.99

00:55:49.000 Right. 0.99

00:55:57.000 Yep.

00:55:57.000 I'm over it.

00:55:58.000 I don't view them as the, look, the divide in this country has, has grown so great.

00:56:03.000 Right.

00:56:04.000 There's two countries.

00:56:05.000 It's like a shatter and there's all these different fractals.

00:56:05.000 It's more than that.

00:56:09.000 It is beyond two countries.

00:56:11.000 It is beyond two countries.

00:56:12.000 When I heard, this is the example I use every time, Joe Biden talking about lockdowns, when red states were doing the opposite, I was like, that's it.

00:56:20.000 It is very clear that he does not view us as part of the conversation or as part of the country or as someone who needs to be talked to.

00:56:26.000 So when I see someone in the mainstream media, NBC or whatever, say something, I'm like, why do I care what they think?

00:56:32.000 It is not part of the world I live in.

00:56:34.000 And I didn't start it.

00:56:35.000 I'm just responding to it.

00:56:36.000 Absolutely.

00:56:37.000 My friend Adam said something really interesting a month or two back, which is, you know, I think his exact words were, I'm really realizing more and more that I'm a patriot of a country that never really existed.

00:56:49.000 And I think, you know, if you look at Twitter and other places, people on the right are saying, you know, effectively, I don't know what I believe in.

00:56:56.000 I, you know, believe in this 1950s world, but also that 1950s world was maybe more an artifact of marketing than reality.

00:57:04.000 And people on the left, you know, they march, but then the world isn't operating the way they think it's supposed to operate and their models are broken.

00:57:11.000 There's a huge cultural malaise or ennui or something going on because all of the old explanations and answers have broken down.

00:57:19.000 And, you know, Joe Biden isn't motivating anyone.

00:57:21.000 There's no narratives that are motivating anyone.

00:57:24.000 And we're discovering the new world right now.

00:57:27.000 We ended slavery, but China didn't. 1.00

00:57:27.000 It's true, man. 1.00

00:57:30.000 And we buy products from China that are getting made by slaves. 1.00

00:57:33.000 So we're basically still supporting slavery.

00:57:36.000 Yeah.

00:57:36.000 No, I mean, we have companies that have used sweatshop labor for a long time.

00:57:41.000 It's blatant.

00:57:42.000 It is blatant structurally in the economy.

00:57:44.000 And I'll tell you this, because at Occupy Wall Street, they had a memorial for Steve Jobs.

00:57:50.000 That, to me, was the funniest thing.

00:57:51.000 It's not like the people of Occupy all came together and voted.

00:57:55.000 Here, here, we all agree.

00:57:56.000 But many people there set up a memorial because he died in October of 2011.

00:58:01.000 And I was laughing at just like the absurdity of one of the most ruthless, cutthroat capitalist

00:58:01.000 Uh huh.

00:58:05.000 businessmen who exploited Chinese communist slave laborers being propped up by these people 0.80

00:58:11.000 at Occupy.

00:58:12.000 And I was there and I'm just like, and you know what?

00:58:15.000 I've, I've, I've, I've.

00:58:16.000 I've long known, because I worked in nonprofits, that it's all marketing.

00:58:20.000 It's all PR.

00:58:21.000 It's all an attempt to gain support.

00:58:23.000 But I think what happens is the internet allows for, you know, we used to have five TV channels or whatever.

00:58:29.000 Three if you're older.

00:58:30.000 Three, right.

00:58:31.000 And everyone just agreed with like the narrative coming from these channels.

00:58:34.000 The Overton window was an inch wide.

00:58:36.000 That's right.

00:58:37.000 Now, with the internet, the Overton window extends, for the most part, from, like, the center-right to the far-left.

00:58:43.000 It's kind of hilarious that that's true.

00:58:45.000 The mainstream will allow these conversations.

00:58:48.000 They'll wag their finger at the center-right, and they'll clap for the far-left.

00:58:53.000 But anyway, the main point is that it allows the entirety of the political compass to exist now in the space, even if we can say the Overton Window doesn't include the far-right, the authoritarian right, and even, and for some reason, ANCAPs get lumped in there sometimes.

00:59:06.000 I mean, I think the Overton Window includes just enough Republicans that they, the Cathedral, or they, the, you know, sort of central political organization, can say, oh, we're tolerant, we accept everyone up to John McCain.

00:59:19.000 And, you know, maybe Mitt Romney on a good day.

00:59:22.000 But regardless of what the cathedral thinks, there are online communities for literally every section.

00:59:27.000 Absolutely.

00:59:28.000 And it's glorious.

00:59:28.000 I love it.

00:59:29.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:59:30.000 I mean, it used to be much, much harder.

00:59:32.000 It was much more centralized.

00:59:34.000 Now it's evened out quite a bit.

00:59:36.000 But I do think this is causing a lot of our problems, especially when, you know, so we're seeing this shuffling, this great sorting algorithm is kind of happening.

00:59:45.000 West Virginia is losing residents.

00:59:48.000 And one of the stories I read was about a teacher and she gave an interview and she was like what they're doing to the unions and how they treat us is absurd and the state is racist so I'm leaving I'm going to Austin or something like that or you know some other city and I'm like isn't it fascinating that in the in one of the West Virginia I think is the second most Trump supporting state from 2020 Absolutely.

00:59:48.000 Right?

01:00:08.000 You have the people who are Democrats outraged and leaving.

01:00:11.000 Meanwhile, you have the more conservative types from cities outraged and leaving.

01:00:15.000 Everything's being sorted.

01:00:17.000 It's almost like we're in this big sieve or whatever, and it's being either shaking it,

01:00:22.000 and some are falling through, and some aren't.

01:00:24.000 So I wonder, the fascinating thing about this is, I've talked about Civil War quite a bit,

01:00:30.000 and right now we have this poll showing the potential balkanization.

01:00:33.000 I did the math.

01:00:35.000 37.2% of the population is in favor of their region balkanizing.

01:00:38.000 You know, my dad is a real centrist Republican, you know, sort of Mitt Romney Republican, and I had the pleasure of seeing my folks over this past weekend after a year and a half because of COVID.

01:00:48.000 And my dad, this sort of, you know, mainstream whatever media TV is telling me, you know, he's talking about, you know, we need to break into two countries.

01:00:55.000 And when you're looking at, you know, 75 year old boomers who came up in the system and they're saying, you know, they're sounding like some crazy new reactionary on Twitter.

01:01:03.000 Man, the world's gotten strange.

01:01:05.000 But it's not neoreactionary. It's 47% of Democrats on the West Coast.

01:01:08.000 So what we're seeing with this with separation is I'm not actually convinced it's going to just be,

01:01:14.000 you know, so one thing I've said recently is that I think we're more likely to break up than see

01:01:18.000 civil war. But I'll stress with this great sorting that's happening, it's entirely possible we do see

01:01:25.000 the country split along hard lines.

01:01:28.000 We're definitely not going to see civil war because wars happen when you've got a lot of young men and our population structure will not support a war.

01:01:36.000 There's just not enough cannon fodder.

01:01:38.000 Neil Stevenson, a great science fiction author, one of my favorites.

01:01:42.000 has had the sort of future history of loosely linked books.

01:01:46.000 And he has sort of, you know, crazy red tribe rural areas and crazy blue tribe rural areas 0.96

01:01:51.000 and somehow they coexist.

01:01:52.000 And I think that sometimes governments just get exhausted and don't have the political

01:01:56.000 will to enforce hegemony.

01:01:58.000 And you know, I think that we're to some degree stepping into that world right now where we

01:02:03.000 get soft secession.

01:02:05.000 That, you know, maybe the tax dollars keep filing back to Washington and, you know, maybe the bomber bases still sit here, but we're not going to listen to laws we don't want to. 0.55

01:02:12.000 And we've seen that with marijuana legalization at the state level.

01:02:18.000 What if we end up with multiple layers of governments going on at once?

01:02:22.000 One while the electricity is on and one if it goes off.

01:02:25.000 And it's like a contingency.

01:02:27.000 Well, let's be real for a second.

01:02:29.000 What do you think is going to happen to these blue areas when the collapse or the disarray happens or the, you know?

01:02:35.000 You know, it's a Red Tribe talking point that, you know, oh, you know, the blue areas, they're all fashion designers and accountants and there's a totally fake economy there and these people don't produce anything. 1.00

01:02:44.000 Whereas out here in steel and corn country, this is the real world.

01:02:48.000 And, you know, I understand the emotions behind that, that the blue tribe often doesn't see the red tribe virtues.

01:02:57.000 They don't appreciate hard work and diligence and, you know, breaking bones and getting sweaty and all these other things.

01:03:03.000 And so you want to believe that, you know, there are feat losers, bug men living in pods.

01:03:07.000 And my books, by the way, start out, I think there's, you know, on the dedication page that, you know, this is to Robert Heinlein who taught us not to be bug men living in pods.

01:03:16.000 But the blue areas do huge amounts of useful things and we're not going to, you know, if there were a civil war, we're not going to surround Boston for a second time and starve them out because they export intellectual property and they've got a port and all of the food they ever want to buy is going to come in from the world.

01:03:30.000 So I'm not predicting a collapse and I'm not predicting civil war.

01:03:35.000 I think a peaceful divorce would be great.

01:03:36.000 I think both sides would do okay afterwards.

01:03:38.000 In a peaceful divorce, it wouldn't be both sides.

01:03:42.000 There's no real way to split the country in two, but there could be five regions.

01:03:47.000 There could be a bunch of different regions.

01:03:53.000 California produces a massive amount of food for the country and for the world, but I'm not convinced that the farmers in Tulare, who are mostly Trump-supporting Republicans, are going to be like, sure, I'll give my food to these hippie lunatics in the cities.

01:04:05.000 Right, well, give or, you know, are subject to regulation by.

01:04:09.000 I mean, if... Conquered.

01:04:11.000 Yeah.

01:04:13.000 I don't know that either side really has the manpower to do that.

01:04:16.000 I think that we are going to see, if there is a Great Divorce, which I don't think is super likely, but I hope we do.

01:04:21.000 If there is a Great Divorce, I think it's going to happen.

01:04:22.000 Top of them, China comes in then. 0.98

01:04:24.000 Well, so that's the other thing.

01:04:25.000 If you look at the U.S.

01:04:26.000 Revolution, the U.S. 0.71

01:04:27.000 Revolution only succeeded because there was a Great Power War going on where England didn't have the ability to fight us because they were busy fighting France.

01:04:34.000 And if you look at how the US always plays divide and conquer, we're always backing one

01:04:38.000 faction overseas, you know, the Syrian rebel group versus the other one.

01:04:43.000 And so, you know, I think China is going to get old before it gets rich. 0.72

01:04:48.000 So they are most dangerous for the next 10 or 20 or 30 years.

01:04:52.000 But I don't think that the future of the world is Chinese. 1.00

01:04:54.000 But if the U.S.

01:04:56.000 got into severe problems, then absolutely China would be funneling money and weapons.

01:05:00.000 Yeah, and you would see one faction in the United States side with China to win.

01:05:04.000 That would be craved just like the revolution, man.

01:05:07.000 You know, I look at these regions in this poll, where it's like you have the Pacific region, the heartland, the south, the northeast.

01:05:14.000 There was a great book by Joel Guru like 30 years ago called The Nine Nations of North America that I read on this topic.

01:05:19.000 But I think the Northeast might be the most at risk.

01:05:22.000 You know, look, I can look at the heartland and there's a lot of corn there.

01:05:25.000 I can look at the Pacific and be like, California produces a ton of food.

01:05:28.000 I look at the South and I'm like, also, lots of farmland and fertile areas.

01:05:31.000 The mountains are impossible to take.

01:05:33.000 How could you invade the mountains?

01:05:34.000 What does the Northeast have?

01:05:36.000 Crabs?

01:05:36.000 The Northeast has ports. I mean if you go to Whole Foods in Cambridge, Massachusetts right now, you know, where is that

01:05:41.000 I'm sure some of it is coming from Vermont, but a lot of it coming from Chile or Brazil

01:05:41.000 food coming from?

01:05:45.000 Let's say the Northeast was just you know by itself. Okay.

01:05:49.000 What does it have to offer for its ports to function lumber crab? 1.00

01:05:52.000 Lumber lumber. Yeah, I mean, you know, I I think that was New Hampshire gonna get

01:05:56.000 Haha, what?

01:05:57.000 What do we export?

01:05:58.000 We've got a lot of rocks.

01:06:01.000 New Hampshire, I think its leading industries are things like health care administration.

01:06:06.000 Well, I don't want to work in that industry.

01:06:08.000 I'd rather do what I do.

01:06:10.000 But again, this gets to the Red Tribe belief that that's not real work.

01:06:13.000 It's all make work and there's no reason for it to exist.

01:06:16.000 I'm going to go with sort of a Chesterton fence that, you know, this exists and I assume there's a good reason for it.

01:06:21.000 They're presumably delivering value to someone.

01:06:23.000 There are many jobs that should not exist, but are forced to. 0.87

01:06:26.000 There's a great essay, bullshit, excuse me, but, but bold jobs. 0.62

01:06:30.000 And I don't know if you see it. 0.97

01:06:31.000 And I think I do agree with that.

01:06:33.000 So, so I'm not going to contradict myself.

01:06:35.000 I thought about this for a long time. Insurance salesman.

01:06:38.000 No offense if you sell insurance.

01:06:40.000 But you know, for the most part people just go online and automatically get their service.

01:06:44.000 McDonald's, fast food restaurants, they're just replacing people with kiosks. And so

01:06:48.000 what I think is happening is that one thing I've actually, I've talked about this for

01:06:53.000 since I was a teenager.

01:06:55.000 The struggle of capitalism in a technological revolution is, and this is really obvious for a lot of people, when you have an industrialization, a lot of jobs get washed away.

01:07:07.000 But in our current system, we don't just give people stuff.

01:07:10.000 The challenge there is if one person has to work to help the society survive, they will not tolerate, very likely, if other people are not working and getting equal access to resources.

01:07:21.000 Right.

01:07:23.000 So long as there are people who need to make food, giving free food to other people is going to make people angry.

01:07:30.000 In which case, that's one of the biggest challenges we have as we move forward technologically.

01:07:35.000 You'll get people saying, don't take my job away.

01:07:37.000 And then when someone gets their job taken away through no fault of their own, and then you get a government subsidy, then they're like, you're taking my tax dollars to pay them.

01:07:43.000 With this potential breakup or great reset, they will erase all of these jobs.

01:07:48.000 And they are.

01:07:49.000 We see fast food restaurants struggling to hire people.

01:07:52.000 How long until they all just upgrade to kiosks?

01:07:55.000 Many of them probably will.

01:07:57.000 And then how about this?

01:07:59.000 I went to, I was at a, I was at a, um, a rest station.

01:08:02.000 They had an ice cream, ice cream box.

01:08:05.000 And it was a little robot man.

01:08:06.000 And I put, I wanted a chocolate sundae with, with chocolate syrup and sprinkles.

01:08:10.000 And the little robot man just goes, meh, meh, meh, meh, and then hands me the little thing.

01:08:14.000 We don't need a human being to do it anymore.

01:08:16.000 So this great reset, I imagine, is going to purge a ton of jobs.

01:08:21.000 To go off on a tangent about this job loss, you know, the libertarian or free market answer is, you know, actually automation and steel mills is great because it used to take 100 blacksmiths to do something and you're sure you're upset that 99% of them are unemployed, but they're now going to get new jobs as machinists.

01:08:37.000 And, you know, as we get rid of the sort of... But that's not true.

01:08:42.000 Somebody who is mining coal can't learn to code.

01:08:44.000 And so I agree with you.

01:08:44.000 Right.

01:08:45.000 And that's where I'm going with this thesis.

01:08:46.000 It was true to some decent degree that as certain jobs went away, there were always more jobs that were brought in.

01:08:52.000 But we're getting to a point where we can automate any job that requires less than a 70 IQ and then an 80 IQ and a 90 IQ.

01:08:59.000 And, you know, someone who happens to be born with a 90 IQ, that's no deficit of character.

01:09:03.000 That's just how it is.

01:09:04.000 And he's equally a human being as anyone else.

01:09:06.000 But you start to get to a problem when we can automate anything under a 90 or 95 or 100 or 105 IQ, and I do worry that we're getting to that world.

01:09:16.000 Now, you were talking about the anger against welfare, and there is a fair bit of anger, but on the other hand, we have as a society a rhetorical device, or several rhetorical devices.

01:09:26.000 We have welfare for the old cold social security, and the polite fiction is you paid into that.

01:09:30.000 And you did, but you end up taking a lot more out of it than you put in.

01:09:33.000 And we have another polite fiction, which is disability.

01:09:36.000 And the fiction there is you can't work, so a decent society helps you.

01:09:40.000 And there are some people who are truly disabled.

01:09:42.000 There was a good article in the Atlantic, I don't know, like two or three years ago, talking about how disability is kind of a different form of welfare, where if you go to the right doctor and say the right things, where there are unfalsifiable statements like, my back hurts, then you get it.

01:09:56.000 And so, you know, all societies have white lies they tell themselves, and I wonder if disability is ours to deal with the fact that cognitive things are being priced out.

01:10:06.000 Let's think about that in the context of the Great Reset or a great divorce in this country.

01:10:12.000 How will people in cities get access to food from farmers?

01:10:18.000 Right now what we're seeing is they're doing this unemployment thing.

01:10:20.000 They've been doing it non-stop.

01:10:21.000 They're doing child tax credits now.

01:10:22.000 So a lot of people who aren't working are getting money.

01:10:25.000 That means for the farmer who's growing corn or wheat or whatever and they go to sell it, They do a lot of work.

01:10:30.000 You can't just snap your fingers and make that stuff.

01:10:30.000 They have to.

01:10:32.000 It's hard work.

01:10:33.000 You don't just poke a hole in the ground and drop a seed and it was a coma or something.

01:10:37.000 Right, but the people in the cities, they're handed money and they walk to you and they get your labor effectively for free.

01:10:45.000 I can't imagine that's sustainable.

01:10:46.000 The only way that actually keeps sustaining itself is that the people doing the work don't know that people who aren't doing work are, you know, as long as they don't know that's happening, but they do know it's happening.

01:10:57.000 So I can only imagine, you know, going back to that, as you mentioned, what did you call it, a red state belief?

01:11:01.000 Yeah, red state, red tribe. 0.87

01:11:03.000 Red tribe belief. 0.76

01:11:05.000 I'll tell you this, man.

01:11:07.000 I know a lot of people live in cities.

01:11:09.000 You put them in the middle of the woods, it's over.

01:11:11.000 So this ties into a prepping thing where, you know, I sometimes flip through prepping magazines when I'm at the bookstore having a coffee, which I do, you know, once a week or so.

01:11:19.000 Or, you know, someone will forward me something off of a prepping form.

01:11:22.000 And people like this idea that, oh, I'm going to buy a can of survival seeds.

01:11:26.000 Or my plan when the system collapses, I'm going to bug out and I'm going to find an

01:11:30.000 abandoned farm and I'll just start farming.

01:11:33.000 And you know, speaking of my own experience, my wife and I have been on the farm for about

01:11:36.000 eight years and we have been working, you know, hugely hard, you know, on the order

01:11:40.000 of, you know, all of Saturday, all of Sunday, weeding and chainsawing down trees and converting

01:11:45.000 pasture and stretching fences.

01:11:46.000 And we've also brought in pros to help us with some of this, like fencing and other

01:11:50.000 And there's so much equipment and there's so much specialized knowledge, which is why the books are so thick, where, you know, I learned that, you know, oh, in this pasture I want to grow hay so that I can feed sheep, so I can get food from that, but before I can grow hay I've got to kill off the poison ivy, which means that I need to put down 2,4-D and 3,6-D at a certain application rate.

01:12:08.000 We are.

01:12:09.000 And just to finish real quickly, the idea that you're going to wander out with a can of survival seeds as civilization is collapsing and, you know, feed yourself is absolutely insane.

01:12:17.000 Homesteading is a viable approach, but, you know, it's a 10-year plan.

01:12:21.000 What's the, for, let's, tomatoes.

01:12:26.000 How long out of the year do you get viable tomatoes?

01:12:29.000 Right, absolutely.

01:12:30.000 So, you know, if you plant all of your tomatoes at once, all of your tomato harvest is gonna come in

01:12:35.000 over a course of two weeks.

01:12:36.000 Now you can stagger that by planting tomatoes week one, week two, week three in different batches.

01:12:42.000 But even then, your tomatoes are gonna be very, you know, short interval,

01:12:45.000 and there's not a lot of calories in tomatoes.

01:12:47.000 So, you know, again, getting the survival scenario.

01:12:50.000 This is fine.

01:12:51.000 You know, homesteading is a hobby and a lifestyle.

01:12:53.000 I'll defend it as that.

01:12:54.000 But it's not, you know, a way to survive the apocalypse with no inputs.

01:12:58.000 There's a huge amount of inputs of diesel fuel and fertilizer and other stuff.

01:13:01.000 Oh, yeah, yeah.

01:13:02.000 We have our tomatoes.

01:13:04.000 I would say that we had four.

01:13:09.000 Standard tomato plants and one cherry tomato.

01:13:10.000 The cherry tomatoes?

01:13:12.000 Easy.

01:13:13.000 I walk outside, we pick them all, we walk in, they're good to go.

01:13:15.000 The regular tomatoes?

01:13:16.000 Extremely difficult.

01:13:17.000 The bugs get them, and they rot.

01:13:21.000 Some of them turn black.

01:13:22.000 And there's all sorts of details, like if you want to save the seeds from tomatoes.

01:13:25.000 Tomatoes are tricky because there is a sort of gel-like coating on the seeds and you have to let the seeds sit in the gel and rot for a week or two and then wash them off and then preserve the seeds.

01:13:36.000 And this is another thing that, uh, you know, if you don't know this stuff, you're just going to make an absolute, uh, hash of it.

01:13:42.000 Yeah.

01:13:42.000 So, um, we, you know, we have a garden and the funny thing is we get like baseball bat size zucchini.

01:13:42.000 Yeah.

01:13:48.000 And over the course of the past two weeks, it's like, we can't eat all this.

01:13:51.000 Like we just set, we set up a garden, but we grew a whole bunch.

01:13:54.000 All the, all the tomatoes come around the same time and then we're like, what are we going to do?

01:13:57.000 Make a sauce, I guess?

01:13:57.000 Right.

01:13:58.000 You know, preservation technology is huge and there's a whole lot of flavors that we as

01:14:02.000 humans like because we sort of evolved in a semi-civilized state.

01:14:06.000 We love smoked beef jerky because that's a preservation technology.

01:14:10.000 We like pickles because that's a preservation technology.

01:14:12.000 We like cheese because that's a preservation technology.

01:14:15.000 And my hint with the zucchini, by the way, I peel my zucchini, I shred them in a food processor, I vacuum seal them, I throw them in a chest freezer, and then I mix that with ground turkey and onions and make turkey fritters all year long.

01:14:28.000 Now, what's fascinating, though, is that a lot of what you're describing is we've got modern technology like freezers and refrigerators.

01:14:28.000 Amazing.

01:14:33.000 So I'll tell you this, man.

01:14:35.000 Where we are right now, this facility is going to be, for the most part, off the grid.

01:14:42.000 Meaning our water is well water, and we're getting solar and batteries installed.

01:14:42.000 Nice.

01:14:46.000 Nice.

01:14:47.000 We're still on the grid, but in the event of an absolute catastrophe, we're going to be able to be fine.

01:14:52.000 We'll have to reduce a lot of our energy consumption, but actually we'll have a decent amount of power.

01:14:57.000 These batteries are hefty, man.

01:14:58.000 I carried like 4,000 pounds of lead acid batteries down to my basement to build my system, so I know all about it.

01:14:58.000 Yep.

01:15:03.000 Yeah, they are hefty.

01:15:04.000 Well, I think we're gonna have lithium.

01:15:06.000 Nice.

01:15:07.000 I put mine in around seven or eight years ago, and I'm going to... I'm building out the solar right now, and the second battery bank is gonna be lithium, so it's great.

01:15:07.000 I'm not entirely sure.

01:15:14.000 But let's be real, man.

01:15:15.000 Like, people in cities stacked on top of each other?

01:15:18.000 They're not gonna have any of this.

01:15:20.000 The power's gonna go out, and the food's gonna be gone.

01:15:20.000 Absolutely not.

01:15:22.000 I was in New York when Sandy hit, and there were two guys standing outside of a bodega with 2x4s and a baseball bat, one person at a time, and the guy said, all the refrigerator stuff is spoiled, because the power was out for a couple weeks, I think.

01:15:35.000 They were like, the cans are good, everything else is spoiled, so take what you want.

01:15:40.000 Mountain Dew was fine, all the sodas were fine, but anything perishable, gone.

01:15:46.000 So your freezers, all that stuff, in the city?

01:15:48.000 Over.

01:15:48.000 Yeah.

01:15:48.000 Right.

01:15:50.000 What are those people gonna do? 1.00

01:15:51.000 Yeah, no, they are absolutely screwed. 0.99

01:15:53.000 You're gonna find them on your farm. 0.98

01:15:55.000 Well, you know, I do have a chapter on firearms.

01:16:00.000 Well, there you go!

01:16:01.000 Right.

01:16:03.000 You know, this ties back to the idea of prepping and the power law, which is the title of one of the essays, I think it's in volume two, where, you know, how often does New York City lose power?

01:16:13.000 You know, for a week or something.

01:16:15.000 It happened, I think, back in 76 or 78 or something.

01:16:17.000 Hurricane Sandy.

01:16:18.000 And Hurricane Sandy.

01:16:20.000 So this is the kind of thing, it seems inconceivable, but you pull back and zoom out and you're like, no, this crap happens every 30 or 40 years and you're going to live another 30 or 40 years.

01:16:28.000 You're going to see it happen again.

01:16:30.000 You're going to see all these things happen in your lifetime.

01:16:32.000 This is the craziest thing to me about when I was like, last year, I'm like, hey guys, pick up these, you know, food bins.

01:16:37.000 I gotta say, it was mostly these young people.

01:16:39.000 A lot of these lefties, these socialists, are young.

01:16:42.000 They don't have the worldly experience to have dealt with these things.

01:16:45.000 Having seen Hurricane Sandy, I was like, wow, it would be great if I had one of those food bins.

01:16:50.000 So I remember when I was living in New York, and I can't remember what was happening, there was some concern about another storm.

01:16:54.000 I went and bought two things of bottled water.

01:16:56.000 I was like, that's gonna be important.

01:16:58.000 They tell you in Chicago, Whenever they say there's a big storm coming, you fill up your bathtub.

01:17:03.000 Because if the water goes bad, if lines break, if some disaster happens, you've got a bunch of water in your bathtub.

01:17:08.000 That's the kind of thing people who are older, I guess, learn.

01:17:11.000 Younger people don't. 0.94

01:17:12.000 But still, there is this arrogance of many people who live in cities.

01:17:16.000 Like you said, they think they can grab a can of seeds and go find a farm somewhere.

01:17:20.000 I'll tell you, man, in the, uh, what did, uh, what did Noam Chomsky say?

01:17:23.000 In the arena of violence, the most brutal guy wins, and that ain't us.

01:17:26.000 And he was referring to leftists.

01:17:27.000 Right, right.

01:17:28.000 These people think that they're gonna go out to a farm, where they're gonna find a guy who's been using a gun, a firearm, or multiple ones, for practical purposes, be it hunting, or, you know, or, or, or, you know, dealing with, uh, rodents and stuff, and they're gonna be able to walk on and just lay claim to a already built up and secured and maintained farm?

01:17:47.000 Fertilizer.

01:17:48.000 Yeah, that's what they're gonna be is fertilizer, right?

01:17:50.000 You know, I don't know if humans can be fertilizer.

01:17:53.000 That's kind of I don't know.

01:17:54.000 I've got a chapter of composting Well, we hope it doesn't come to that right right a lot of hungry people though You know, so there's another thing that I hear in prepping circles, and it's a feel-good phrase, you know, it's not the equipment that you have that matters, it's what you know that matters.

01:18:09.000 Because, you know, equipment can be taken from you, but what you know is a resource.

01:18:13.000 Yeah.

01:18:13.000 And, you know, if there's some guy living in a basement, you know, in Brooklyn, and he's been reading survival forums for six years, and then the system collapsed, and he comes out to my farm and wants to share his knowledge with me for food, you know, I don't need any knowledge that this guy, you know, learned from endlessly recycled blog posts.

01:18:30.000 Um, you know, there's, oh gosh, uh, there's some ancient Greek words for different kinds of knowledge, uh, technion, metis or something.

01:18:38.000 Um, but to really, really know something, you've got to do it and you've got to do it ahead of time.

01:18:40.000 And you're absolutely doing this with your tomatoes and your chicken.

01:18:43.000 So if you lost power, you've already practiced it.

01:18:45.000 So that's real knowledge.

01:18:47.000 It's not something that you're just doing right now.

01:18:49.000 We got a, we got a couple of mulberry trees.

01:18:51.000 And so we made mulberry jam.

01:18:52.000 We made a, uh, we mixed wine berry and mulberry, like a wild berry.

01:18:55.000 That was actually really, I'm not a big fan of mulberries.

01:18:57.000 Oh, I love them, but okay.

01:18:58.000 But when you mix them, when I mix them with the wine berries, it's really good.

01:19:01.000 And the wine berries alone, I think the combination, but anyway, digress.

01:19:04.000 Do you know how many calories, you probably do, are in ten mulberries?

01:19:07.000 Uh, I'm guessing that it rounds to zero.

01:19:08.000 Like ten.

01:19:09.000 Six.

01:19:10.000 Six.

01:19:10.000 Okay, alright.

01:19:11.000 Yeah, Ian nailed it last time.

01:19:12.000 I'm like, how did you know that?

01:19:12.000 He was like, six.

01:19:13.000 But Josh, ten.

01:19:14.000 Uh-huh.

01:19:16.000 Wow, that's a small handful of berries you're gonna shove in your mouth.

01:19:19.000 Six calories.

01:19:20.000 Right.

01:19:21.000 You will not... There's no amount of mulberry you're gonna eat to sustain yourself for even a few hours.

01:19:25.000 Right.

01:19:26.000 And so, you know, naturally occurring fruits and stuff, people don't realize... I'll tell you this story.

01:19:32.000 And this plays into exactly what I'm saying.

01:19:35.000 I had friends during Occupy Wall Street got granted farmland.

01:19:39.000 How long do you think, let me ask you, how long do you think they made it?

01:19:42.000 So they went out there and tried to start farming from scratch?

01:19:45.000 They said, we don't want to be on the grid.

01:19:47.000 We're tired of contributing to this machine of pollution and climate change.

01:19:52.000 So we're going to the farm to live sustainably.

01:19:54.000 Three days?

01:19:55.000 A week?

01:19:55.000 Two weeks.

01:19:57.000 I'm impressed.

01:19:58.000 Most people say a couple months.

01:19:59.000 No, no.

01:20:03.000 Two weeks.

01:20:03.000 You know what they realized?

01:20:05.000 I asked my friend.

01:20:06.000 She was like, I was like, why'd you come back?

01:20:08.000 She was like, because I wake up at 6am to work, go to bed at midnight.

01:20:12.000 And I'm like, yeah?

01:20:12.000 Yep.

01:20:13.000 What did you think farming was?

01:20:15.000 When you are actually trying to sustain yourself, you never stop working.

01:20:19.000 Right, right.

01:20:20.000 And this gets into, you know, people have said to me, oh, you know, if we had a collapse, I bet you'd love it.

01:20:25.000 You know, like, no, man.

01:20:27.000 Right now, it's a very, very hard hobby that I do on the weekends with lots of diesel fuel coming in from outside.

01:20:34.000 If that diesel fuel went away and, you know, I tried to make a producer gas still using old FEMA plans and started logging trees to make producer gas to do stuff, you know, it's better than starving to death, but that's hard work.

01:20:47.000 But you know what I did this morning?

01:20:49.000 I went out and I grabbed some fresh jalapenos and a poblano and some some cherry tomatoes and then I went to the chicken coop and I got a couple eggs and so uh one of our chickens is I guess she's young so she's doing double eggs like they're twice as big they're Right. 0.77

01:21:05.000 And I would say, to be fair, 99% of my breakfast was completely homegrown.

01:21:11.000 But I threw in some garlic powder.

01:21:11.000 Yeah.

01:21:13.000 And people like to say, you know, and it's so much healthier.

01:21:15.000 I'm not sure it is healthier, but man, it's so much more satisfying, isn't it?

01:21:18.000 That's just amazing.

01:21:19.000 We're like, this all came from here.

01:21:20.000 You know, to be honest, I'm not a big fan of like throwing peppers.

01:21:24.000 Like if I went to a restaurant, I ordered, I'd be like, give me the bacon and the eggs with extra cheese on top.

01:21:28.000 But today, I had cherry tomatoes with fresh-cut jalapenos poblano on eggs, and it tasted so good.

01:21:34.000 Nice, nice.

01:21:35.000 You know, that is one of the most satisfying things, and we've done all sorts of stuff.

01:21:39.000 You know, we've made corn fritters, we've made maple syrup creme brulee from maple trees that we've tapped, and I boil down the sap and make my own maple syrup.

01:21:50.000 I push back on homesteaders who say everything tastes better.

01:21:53.000 Like, no, you know, some food at, you know, Whole Foods and the supermarkets tastes really good.

01:21:57.000 The one thing that comes from the farm that's just absolutely amazing is homemade bacon.

01:22:01.000 And, you know, I'm not gonna say it's 10% better, it's 20% better.

01:22:04.000 Homemade bacon is, like, literally 10 times better.

01:22:07.000 Like, you just don't want store-made stuff.

01:22:08.000 We've got farms around here, and so we have gotten fresh bacon, and it is indescribable.

01:22:16.000 I don't even want the store-bought stuff.

01:22:17.000 It's not the same.

01:22:18.000 Yeah, it's a pale imitation.

01:22:19.000 It's like turkey bacon or something.

01:22:21.000 It's like turkey bacon.

01:22:23.000 And if I can plug my own book again, I've got tons of details on how to make your own bacon from scratch, and you can do it even living in the suburbs.

01:22:28.000 Is it just Take pig cut.

01:22:32.000 Well, it does. Yeah.

01:22:33.000 I mean, the ingredients say, you know, you need, you know, salt, salt, man.

01:22:37.000 And you need and you need pig and, you know, for pig, see page four fifty eight.

01:22:42.000 But you can practice a bunch of the stuff living in the suburbs.

01:22:46.000 You can buy a whole pork belly from the butcher and do it.

01:22:48.000 Do you think people who live in cities should escape the cities right now?

01:22:51.000 You know, so one of the things I've got in the intro chapter is, you know,

01:22:56.000 here's a three year here's a one year plan.

01:22:58.000 You're ready to move, what do you need to do?

01:23:00.000 Here's a three-year plan, and one of the things I have is a ten-year plan for young adults, because I've had a lot of, you know, friends on Twitter who are 22 or 26 ask me.

01:23:08.000 And, you know, I've said on the 10-year plan, don't move right this second.

01:23:11.000 You know, the cities aren't about to collapse tomorrow.

01:23:13.000 What you need to do is learn a skill, you need to learn some stuff, and you need to find your mate.

01:23:20.000 It's a lot easier to meet people in the city than it is out in the middle of nowhere.

01:23:24.000 So you don't think, I think people should be getting away from cities immediately.

01:23:26.000 Well, that's going to help me sell the book.

01:23:26.000 Okay.

01:23:29.000 So I agree, Tim.

01:23:30.000 I've never heard an idea.

01:23:31.000 That's so right.

01:23:32.000 With, with, with, you know, you look at how the law's being enforced.

01:23:35.000 Um, it's, it's been referred to, uh, I know Mike Mike Cernovich tweeted about this.

01:23:39.000 I think, um, maybe Michael Malice may have mentioned it.

01:23:41.000 Anarcho-tyranny.

01:23:42.000 Absolutely, and those are two good followers.

01:23:43.000 I follow both those guys as well.

01:23:44.000 For those that aren't familiar, narco-tyranny is basically that the government doesn't enforce the crimes and petty things that are negatively impacting your life, you're being robbed, but they do enforce anything that goes against them in any way or the powerful elites.

01:23:58.000 Yeah, so absolutely.

01:23:59.000 Arson during riots?

01:24:00.000 Well, that's just a bit of vibrant democracy, you know, that went, you know, two percent too far.

01:24:04.000 Peaceful, peaceful.

01:24:04.000 But on the other hand, you know, some White-collar guy has a pistol that, you know, isn't known to the Attorney General to have all 17 of the checkpoints and, you know, he gets dragged through the system and he's lucky if he, you know, gets off without jail time after he spent $100,000 on legal fees.

01:24:18.000 I see this as being, you know, for the most part where we are.

01:24:21.000 I mentioned that, you know, Joe Biden clearly isn't speaking to half the country and that's a failure on his part.

01:24:26.000 I mean, you look at what Jen Psaki issued one of the most shocking statements when she said that they were working with Facebook to censor people. 0.98

01:24:32.000 Oh my God, that was horrifying.

01:24:33.000 When the Biden administration is now admitting that they're working with the DNC to go to phone carriers to censor private text messages, it is beyond, it is an anarcho-tyranny.

01:24:43.000 There are riots in the streets, the crime is skyrocketing, the police are being defunded, yet the government is coming after private citizens to an extreme degree.

01:24:51.000 There was a great quote, I think it was from P.J.

01:24:53.000 O'Rourke, I read it 10 or 20 years ago, which is that PETA goes after women wearing fur coats and not bikers wearing leather jackets.

01:25:03.000 Part of the explanation behind anarcho-tyranny, you know, I mentioned earlier that I studied Roman history and one thing in the later days of the empire, the Roman political elite wanted triumphs, which was a big parade through downtown Rome because it looked great, you'd have treasure.

01:25:17.000 And the problem is that to conquer a tough foreign tribe is hard and there's not many of them, they're far away. 1.00

01:25:24.000 So at some point the Roman political elites started waging war against allies and their own provinces Um, because it was a way to, you know, kill a bunch of people and take some treasure.

01:25:33.000 Yeah.

01:25:34.000 Um, and so this ties into a narco tyranny. 0.81

01:25:37.000 Who's easier to prosecute?

01:25:38.000 Sort of, you know, some, uh, you know, high ranking, uh, you know, corruption or just pick a random white collar guy.

01:25:45.000 You know, you know, I'm, I'm just, I'm at this point sick of people who are the frog in the pot boiling, who refuse to accept what is happening around them.

01:25:55.000 Because I've had so many conversations where I'm like, listen, You know, I'm not trying to be a doomsayer.

01:26:02.000 I am not absolutely predicting what will happen.

01:26:05.000 I'm only simply asking, if everything we've seen over the past 10 years has been escalating, do you think it is more likely that the escalation will continue or that right now the escalation will stop and things will improve?

01:26:16.000 That's a great way to frame it.

01:26:16.000 Right.

01:26:17.000 But that's I'm so I'm not saying I mean quite literally tomorrow Joe Biden could come out and say I want to issue a heartfelt sincere apology to all of Trump supporters for everything that's happened in this country and I want to know that I am here for you and I'm going to be sitting down and you know he could he could say something he won't right what does he say he says the Republicans voting bills is the greatest threat since the Civil War they no one no one is backing down And no one will stop.

01:26:40.000 This gets into the rhetoric where Nazi and racist are the ultimate trump cards.

01:26:44.000 Uh, you know, the civil war.

01:26:45.000 So this is implicitly putting anyone who doesn't agree with, you know, sort of every policy of the democratic party is obviously on the side of bringing back slavery.

01:26:53.000 Civil war.

01:26:54.000 He's saying it at a time when, when we have this, this poll coming out, whether the poll is accurate or not.

01:26:58.000 And the sentiment is rising for, for a breakup of this country.

01:27:01.000 I can only say that a president who would say that is encouraging and he's an accelerationist.

01:27:07.000 He wants it to happen.

01:27:08.000 I can say this over and over again.

01:27:09.000 I do not want anything bad to happen to this country, and I think the divide is horrifying because of what will happen with our enemies.

01:27:15.000 The last thing I want is for China to take Taiwan.

01:27:17.000 Now there's no chips for computers and cars, and China controls that. 0.99

01:27:21.000 They gain more control in all of these other regions as they are expanding with the Belt and Road Initiative.

01:27:25.000 We need a strong United America.

01:27:27.000 Joe Biden, I think, is doing everything to rip it apart.

01:27:29.000 You know, there was an essay I read once, I think it was by this guy, Clark Hatt, on Status 451 blog, talking about the machinery of state and state machines.

01:27:40.000 And the idea is that there are things that can roll forward, but that can't roll back the same way.

01:27:45.000 And you can see it in mechanical engineering with worm gears and everything.

01:27:48.000 And I'm not sure what the output of this is.

01:27:50.000 I mean, accelerationism and the collapse of the United States sounds terrible, but if we were in the kind of system where we could back up, we would have already backed up.

01:27:58.000 So I don't know how we get out of this.

01:27:59.000 I have talked to so many people, and I mention this frequently, particularly in the past week or so with this poll that came out, talk of Thucydides Trap, the MIT study that came, you saw that MIT thing?

01:28:09.000 1972, MIT said, was it MIT?

01:28:09.000 I did not.

01:28:11.000 It was MIT, right?

01:28:13.000 I don't know.

01:28:13.000 Oh, they just tied into the coral of waves and I think they said by 2040 society will collapse due to these factors and

01:28:18.000 everything I'm like I'm looking at all these things

01:28:20.000 I'm looking at a vice president who's saying this is the biggest threat since the Civil War and he said the Confederates

01:28:26.000 never made it To the Capitol and I'm like wow, dude, you're saying these

01:28:29.000 these Trump supporters There were hundreds of thousands of people who didn't go in

01:28:32.000 the Capitol. You're likening Trump's base to the Confederates

01:28:37.000 How could that not be accelerationism?

01:28:38.000 But I see this.

01:28:39.000 I've seen so many people over the past several years tell me I was wrong or crazy to think that we're headed towards some kind of civil conflict.

01:28:45.000 And I'm like, bro, we're in it.

01:28:46.000 Yeah, we are in it.

01:28:48.000 And you know.

01:28:49.000 How could we have come to this point?

01:28:50.000 I had a conversation recently with someone who was like, no, no, everything's going to be fine.

01:28:54.000 It's going to calm down.

01:28:54.000 We're all going to go back to normal.

01:28:55.000 And I'm like, why?

01:28:57.000 Because Trump's going to decide not to run?

01:28:58.000 Because Trump's going to just disappear overnight?

01:29:00.000 Or do you think 2022 Trump's going to be doing the circuit, promoting people in the midterms, the media is going to find their path towards making money again.

01:29:07.000 And so that doesn't matter what's true or not.

01:29:08.000 They're going to go, they're absolutely insane, rile people up to an extreme degree.

01:29:12.000 And then we're going to have three years of that.

01:29:14.000 And you think it's going to be all fine?

01:29:15.000 You know, I think, so I'm agreeing with your overall thesis, but I think even if Trump dropped dead from a heart attack tomorrow, the two tribes have been led to hate each other so much.

01:29:24.000 And this is, you know, fuel.

01:29:27.000 The media loves it.

01:29:28.000 The Democrats love it.

01:29:31.000 And because it gets excitement, it gets people out to the polls, it gets donations.

01:29:34.000 The New York Times loves it.

01:29:35.000 I mean, the New York Times has been hugely more profitable over the last few years than it ever was before.

01:29:42.000 The ACLU is the perfect example.

01:29:44.000 They used to be wonderful.

01:29:45.000 I mean, I lean more to the right than to the left, but I always loved the ACLU.

01:29:49.000 Man, they stick by their principles, and even I, who disagree with most of the members of it, on free speech, they rock.

01:29:54.000 But what happened was they made a bunch of money when they challenged Donald Trump's moratorium on travel from the seven countries, and then they got a bunch of flack over Charlottesville.

01:30:04.000 And so they immediately said, Money is more important than values.

01:30:08.000 And we've seen that with many different organizations.

01:30:10.000 The universities.

01:30:11.000 I mean, there used to be the concept of academic freedom where, okay, this one professor with his crazy ideas, you know, disagrees with all decent society, but we respect free speech and free inquiry so much that we will support him in this.

01:30:23.000 And, you know, that was a useful tool until the left could entirely finish their long march through the institutions.

01:30:28.000 But now that they've got it, there's no academic freedom at all.

01:30:30.000 If you want to say anything that departs from the party line by 2%, you can get fired.

01:30:34.000 I look at these nonprofits and I look at the media and I'm just like, I don't think there's a point at which the two different versions of reality ever meet.

01:30:44.000 So I love calling this organization FreePress.net.

01:30:47.000 You ever hear of them?

01:30:48.000 Yeah.

01:30:48.000 What do you think they're supposed to be representing?

01:30:48.000 Yeah.

01:30:52.000 Um, from the title, uh, I would think the free press.

01:30:54.000 Now, would you be surprised to find out they were advocating censorship?

01:30:57.000 I would not be surprised.

01:30:58.000 That's exactly what they've been doing.

01:30:59.000 It's 1984, man.

01:31:00.000 They, they came out heavily against Alex Jones saying he must be censored and banned and removed.

01:31:00.000 Yep.

01:31:05.000 And I knew people there and I hit them up and I was like, what are you doing?

01:31:08.000 And they were like, this is important.

01:31:10.000 You know, he spreads lies.

01:31:11.000 And I'm like, you're the free press.

01:31:13.000 Of course, you're going to defend people who will say bad things.

01:31:16.000 You have to.

01:31:16.000 There's this current push right now to get rid of misinformation, and I'm reading a book, I was reading it on the airplane, about the Soviets, how they almost invented the internet, and they had a couple of networking attempts in the 50s, 60s, 70s, and they had the whole concept of, you know, cybernetics, which came from the U.S., and then the Soviets were playing with it, and there was one part of cybernetics and information theory and Claude Shannon and everything that immediately had resonance with them, And that was static or noise in the system, because it fit into their ideology.

01:31:47.000 You could talk about information on the one hand and noise on the other.

01:31:50.000 And that was chilling to read this in the book about the Soviet internet attempts of the 1970s, because we're hearing it every day with, oh, of course we have free speech, but not for misinformation.

01:32:00.000 And like, oh man.

01:32:01.000 And do you see what NPR said?

01:32:04.000 That the truth, with not proper context, is misinformation.

01:32:07.000 Wonderful.

01:32:08.000 So, what's proper context?

01:32:11.000 Framing.

01:32:12.000 So when the Guardian comes out with an article that says the Kremlin seems to have compromise on Trump, or according to a document, And then all of these people in the establishment left just read the headline and don't actually read the story.

01:32:22.000 They believe that we have the proof that Trump is compromised.

01:32:25.000 Then you read the actual story.

01:32:26.000 What do they say?

01:32:27.000 It's highly unusual.

01:32:28.000 Suspect.

01:32:29.000 The Kremlin denies it.

01:32:31.000 Trump denies it.

01:32:32.000 And we haven't confirmed any of the documents, but experts think it may be real.

01:32:35.000 Right.

01:32:36.000 OK, so none of it's confirmed.

01:32:37.000 Why did you publish it?

01:32:38.000 But if you read nothing but the headline, there you go.

01:32:40.000 You know, Snopes.com is amazing these days because we'll have a politician say, you know, the sun rises in the east and you know, then Snopes will say, you know, this is

01:32:40.000 It's proof.

01:32:49.000 absolutely false without more context because actually the earth is rotating in the sun stand right. Oh,

01:32:55.000 man. Well, the way I always describe it to people is that what they'll do is that there'll be a

01:32:59.000 video of Donald Trump doing a backflip off of, you know, a balcony and landing perfectly

01:33:03.000 in a superhero pose.

01:33:04.000 Everyone will share the video and it'll go viral.

01:33:06.000 It'll get 10 million views and every conservative will say, wow, this Trump is spry, you know, for a 77 year old man.

01:33:12.000 And then Snopes will say, did Donald Trump do a perfect backflip off of a balcony and land in a superhero pose on Sunday?

01:33:20.000 And then it'll say, false. 0.99

01:33:22.000 Then it'll give you a bunch of exposition garbage, and like on Saturday, you know, the 15th, Donald Trump was giving a speech, and then finally— Trump, a known liar. 1.00

01:33:30.000 Exactly. 0.91

01:33:31.000 Without evidence, had made these claims, and finally at the bottom, after 500, 600 words, it'll say, while Trump did do a perfect backflip, and he did land in a superhero pose, it was on Sunday— it was on Monday at midnight, which is not Sunday.

01:33:44.000 Right, which in Eastern time zone is not Sunday, yeah.

01:33:46.000 Exactly.

01:33:47.000 I've been thinking about how we were talking earlier about how it's not a linear.

01:33:47.000 That's the game.

01:33:50.000 We're talking about the acceleration ism.

01:33:52.000 It's essentially, and it's not linear.

01:33:54.000 It's like, it's kind of like a J correct, which makes me think of that. 0.98

01:33:57.000 It's the beginning of an amplification wave that may come back down.

01:34:01.000 So maybe it's not going to keep going.

01:34:02.000 Maybe, you know, every exponential curve is an S curve.

01:34:05.000 Once you get to the end of it.

01:34:06.000 And so what causes it to amplify greater is coherent interference.

01:34:10.000 We've got all this fake news saying the same stuff, creating this amplification wave.

01:34:15.000 If we create some sort of decoherent interference, maybe we can reduce the amplification and slow the acceleration.

01:34:24.000 It seems plausible.

01:34:26.000 You know, I tend to, I've gotten sort of apolitical or post-political or something over the last couple of years, not because I don't think politics matters.

01:34:34.000 You know, this is fascinating stuff and I love to sit here and analyze it.

01:34:37.000 And I love to, you know, sort of go back and read old books and see what, you know, correlations we can get.

01:34:43.000 But I think these systems are huger.

01:34:45.000 And by systems, I mean sort of, you know, I'm pro free market, but capitalism at this point is this massive, you know, sort of headless monster with 7 billion people in it.

01:34:53.000 And, you know, capitalism is going to do what it's going to do.

01:34:56.000 It's like evolution.

01:34:57.000 You get perfect sharks.

01:34:59.000 You may or may not want a shark, but it doesn't matter.

01:35:01.000 And, you know, you get the perfect Facebook.

01:35:03.000 You get the perfect, you know, etc.

01:35:06.000 And you get the perfect Democratic Party.

01:35:07.000 And you get the perfect Republican Party.

01:35:09.000 It's only a matter of time.

01:35:10.000 You get the perfect movies.

01:35:11.000 Movies have whittled down to the lowest common denominator of giant robots blowing stuff up.

01:35:15.000 It used to be like Groundhog Day, you know?

01:35:17.000 It's going to be perfect.

01:35:18.000 And so my response to this is mostly to just pull back and disconnect.

01:35:22.000 And so, you know, I've got my friends, I've got, you know, good old books that I read.

01:35:28.000 I think this is the decoherent interference.

01:35:30.000 Talking about things that aren't in that narrative is creating a decoherence, which is reducing the amplification.

01:35:37.000 Yeah.

01:35:38.000 Well, let's take Super Chats and see what the audience has to say.

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01:35:49.000 every night.

01:35:50.000 And that's usually where we talk about the things that YouTube bans you for.

01:35:53.000 But we'll see.

01:35:53.000 Sometimes they're just chillin' fun.

01:35:55.000 Let's see what we got.

01:35:56.000 All right.

01:35:57.000 I don't think I can read your name, Anna.

01:36:00.000 We'll just say Anna.

01:36:01.000 No one cares about France or Australia.

01:36:03.000 American freedom is dying.

01:36:04.000 Everything else is irrelevant.

01:36:05.000 Well, you need to understand that France and Australia could serve as a canary in the coal mine.

01:36:09.000 France is a nation that is very rebellious, to say the least.

01:36:13.000 And they're also having extremely draconian laws.

01:36:15.000 Australia is, you know, a British Commonwealth.

01:36:19.000 Not too dissimilar from the United States in certain ways, but they don't have a Bill of Rights.

01:36:22.000 So, we can thank our lucky stars when we see these countries and the bad things that happen.

01:36:25.000 Ireland passed a vaccine passport stuff recently.

01:36:28.000 So, the Bill of Rights.

01:36:30.000 Thank your lucky stars, but I don't know how much longer it's gonna keep protecting us.

01:36:36.000 All right, let's see.

01:36:36.000 Oh, what's this?

01:36:38.000 David Quesada says, Tony Hawk came out of retirement and you're not a real skater if you don't talk about it.

01:36:43.000 Well, um, good for Tony.

01:36:45.000 He is one of the best skateboarders ever, simply by, well, vert skating for sure.

01:36:51.000 His skating street was always funny because he's like a, he's a vert skater guy.

01:36:54.000 But, uh, he's a legend.

01:36:55.000 I mean, he invented so much of skateboarding.

01:36:57.000 However, I think at his current age, I don't see him competing with, like, Guy Curry, who just did a 1080 for the first time in a competition.

01:37:03.000 12-year-old kid.

01:37:04.000 12.

01:37:05.000 Tony Hawk's Twitter game is pretty good.

01:37:07.000 I like him.

01:37:08.000 Tony Hawk's Twitter game consists of him not being recognized by people.

01:37:12.000 I wonder what Tony Hawk is doing right now.

01:37:14.000 This.

01:37:14.000 Right, right.

01:37:15.000 I do love it where they're like, hey, your name's Tony.

01:37:17.000 He's like, yep, like that skateboarder Tony Hawk.

01:37:19.000 He's like, that's right.

01:37:19.000 I love those tweets.

01:37:20.000 They're hilarious.

01:37:21.000 Absolutely.

01:37:22.000 He discovered that he's famous, but no one knows what he looks like.

01:37:26.000 No, some people do.

01:37:27.000 All right, Hayden says, Travis, great to have you.

01:37:30.000 I just bought 40 acres of mountain forest land and I'm realizing I will need to clear dozens of 40 foot trees to build and have a garden.

01:37:36.000 Awesome.

01:37:36.000 Do you have any, do you have advice for starting with totally raw land 20 miles from town?

01:37:40.000 Now, real quick, I also have about an acre with tons of trees on it and your advice on how to deal with it?

01:37:48.000 You know, I don't want to sound too much like a shill, but I've got an entire chapter on exactly that. 1.00

01:37:52.000 You start with a forest and you want pasture there.

01:37:54.000 What are the like 17 steps?

01:37:56.000 And the short version is you're going to log those trees, you're probably going to have an excavator come in to pull

01:38:01.000 out the stumps, then you're going to do a soil test, you're going to amend

01:38:04.000 the soil as necessary, and there's a lot more, but it's absolutely doable.

01:38:08.000 But that's not doable by, well, I mean, for the most part, we're talking about modern technology in a functioning

01:38:15.000 economy to make this happen.

01:38:17.000 So, you know, the way that this was classically done in colonial America is that you would debark the trees and then they would die and then you could farm in between them.

01:38:27.000 And you could even log as you got time.

01:38:28.000 You know, people tend to log in the winter.

01:38:30.000 That's when I do my logging because it's a lot easier to skid the logs out to my firewood pile using my tractor on top of snow because it sort of lubricates and it also protects the pasture.

01:38:38.000 And it's easier to see, right?

01:38:39.000 And you don't have to deal with all of the leaves on the trees.

01:38:39.000 Yeah, yeah.

01:38:43.000 So, you know, you can do this all at once by, you know, throwing a lot of money at it, or you can make it a 10-year project, and there's tons of good firewood there.

01:38:51.000 There's a rule of thumb that you can pull one quart of firewood out of one acre of forest per year sustainably forever.

01:38:58.000 And so there's that, but also if you want to log it all at once, there's a huge amount of firewood there.

01:39:02.000 You can also call in a logger.

01:39:04.000 He might do it for you, but he might want two-thirds or three-quarters of the wood.

01:39:08.000 Um, and that's all covered.

01:39:09.000 It's a huge topic and it's fascinating.

01:39:11.000 I love talking about forestry and logging and I love doing it.

01:39:13.000 Cool.

01:39:14.000 Cool.

01:39:14.000 JM says, Hey Ian, I was just thinking about the time I was in a drug-induced coma.

01:39:17.000 I'm pretty sure I saw interdimensional beings.

01:39:19.000 What do you think?

01:39:21.000 Totally possible.

01:39:22.000 You ever take psychedelics?

01:39:23.000 I have been fascinated.

01:39:24.000 I never have, but man, I'd like to meet the machine elves someday. 0.51

01:39:27.000 Yeah.

01:39:28.000 All right.

01:39:28.000 Yeah.

01:39:29.000 Rola Koala says, Down with communism.

01:39:32.000 We as a nation need less screen time and more community.

01:39:35.000 Service guarantees citizenship.

01:39:36.000 Oh, Ian, down with the Fed.

01:39:39.000 I, I, I, we need more community.

01:39:41.000 You know, Jon Stewart said it.

01:39:42.000 And I, and the reason I cite Jon Stewart is because that should be a message to the left.

01:39:45.000 He, come on, you like this guy, right?

01:39:47.000 Well, he was like, he actually said we needed a draft of some sort.

01:39:50.000 I, I've got a problem with that.

01:39:53.000 You know, I think that people confuse sort of good things that come from terrible things with an overall benefit from it. 0.90

01:40:00.000 So, you know, you get drafted for a very good cause, which is, you know, fascism is terrible and putting people in death camps is terrible, and then you make a lot of, you know, lifelong buddies and whatever, but right now most of the wars we're fighting are absolutely idiotic and it's always people who wouldn't be subject to the draft who think that other people need to be drafted. 0.89

01:40:19.000 I don't believe in slavery. 0.88

01:40:20.000 He wasn't saying military draft.

01:40:22.000 He was saying some kind of community-like... I don't want to be drafted to be a social worker and I wouldn't want anyone else to be drafted for it either.

01:40:30.000 I thought about this.

01:40:32.000 The challenge is that you end up with a bunch of entitled people and there's a balance.

01:40:36.000 It's not so simple, I guess.

01:40:39.000 The libertarian aspect of it is leave me alone, let me do my thing, which is where I usually land on when it comes to that dividing line.

01:40:45.000 But I also recognize that without a shared community space, that's what I was saying earlier.

01:40:49.000 I do agree with this, yeah.

01:40:50.000 If people are online and, like, you know, I'm talking only to, you know, more libertarian types, but then my neighbor is talking to socialists, conflicts are brewing because we live next to each other.

01:40:59.000 So there's got to be some kind of cohesion.

01:41:01.000 I do agree that shared culture is good.

01:41:03.000 I also think that shared experiences coming out of voluntary behavior are much better.

01:41:08.000 And one final thing on this idea of some sort of civil draft.

01:41:11.000 Think about all the programs and the way they're actually run.

01:41:13.000 No matter how great the theory is, the schools, the DMV, think about how it's actually implemented.

01:41:19.000 And so if we had some sort of social draft, you know that the children of the rich and wealthy would end up being drafted to work in policy think tanks in D.C.

01:41:29.000 with wonderful apartments, and you know that the children of coal miners would be picking up garbage on the side of the road. 1.00

01:41:36.000 Captain says, I have a cabin in Northern AZ and want to homestead there permanently, but I work in IT and need internet.

01:41:41.000 I have been on the Starlink waiting list for over a year now.

01:41:44.000 I believe the Starlink is moving from the East Coast towards the West Coast.

01:41:48.000 It's just because I know, I met somebody who has got New York Starlink, and they said that this area is going to get it near the late August, late 2021, they said.

01:41:48.000 I could be wrong.

01:42:00.000 So I think they're activating satellite groups, you know, moving in a direction, but I don't know for sure.

01:42:06.000 I will tell you, Starlink's amazing.

01:42:07.000 Absolutely.

01:42:08.000 When it activates, it works within a 500-mile radius, so my understanding is they want you to keep it in the same place, but as long as you're within that range, so we could drive like, you know, half an hour up the top of a mountain.

01:42:20.000 Yeah, and you know, that's all sort of policy, because the satellites are continuously orbiting past, so you're getting handed off, you know, time and again.

01:42:26.000 Right.

01:42:27.000 You know, I think that Starlink is accelerating in its deployment, so I think wait a little bit longer, but that's great.

01:42:35.000 Sat says, if you ever wondered why there's dumb failure politicians in office, it's because these people are highly sought after for government because they will say or do whatever they're told, no matter how absurd.

01:42:35.000 All right.

01:42:45.000 Yeah, this gets back to evolution.

01:42:48.000 We breed politicians according to selection criteria, and the selection criteria is electability. 0.99

01:42:53.000 And when everyone has the franchise, that means that the median voter is pretty dumb and pretty uninformed. 0.98

01:43:01.000 All right, let's see. 0.98

01:43:02.000 Hulk Mash says, hey guys.

01:43:04.000 Excuse me.

01:43:05.000 First of all, this is my favorite podcast out there.

01:43:07.000 Also, I use clips of the show for my TikTok, and one of the videos got over a million views.

01:43:07.000 Oh, thank you very much.

01:43:12.000 If you ever want to back up TikTok, it's all yours.

01:43:14.000 Oh wow, cool.

01:43:16.000 Our TikTok got briefly taken down.

01:43:18.000 No idea why.

01:43:19.000 They just deleted all the videos.

01:43:21.000 I'm like, whatever, man.

01:43:21.000 And I laughed.

01:43:23.000 And then, um, I tweeted about it, and then it popped right back up.

01:43:26.000 But I'm proud to say that, um, TimCast.com, we are officially self-sustainable.

01:43:31.000 There was a big fear for a while that, like, you know, we're beholden to all these different platforms.

01:43:36.000 And then if we got banned, oh no, it's like, we can't work, what do we do?

01:43:39.000 So I was like, we gotta start a website.

01:43:40.000 We started a website, and now the new website is up, we've got a news crew.

01:43:44.000 Everything that's currently happening with our news writers and our new show and our current level is sustainable just off of the website alone.

01:43:51.000 That's amazing.

01:43:52.000 So the YouTube, all of the stuff we're doing out is like our path towards rapid expansion.

01:43:57.000 So Daily Wire can sit there and get smear pieces from NPR because they're expanding so rapidly.

01:44:01.000 Don't worry, Daily Wire.

01:44:03.000 We're coming for you.

01:44:04.000 We're going to be expanding.

01:44:05.000 Much congratulations on the success of Daily Wire.

01:44:07.000 I can't wait for our NPR smear piece.

01:44:08.000 Yeah, I know.

01:44:08.000 It's going to be great.

01:44:10.000 You'll know you've made it.

01:44:11.000 We were just talking with a particular individual.

01:44:16.000 I'll refrain from saying who I guess, but people might already know.

01:44:20.000 I'm extremely excited for this.

01:44:21.000 different shows like cultural shows so I'm extremely excited for this. TikTok can ban

01:44:21.000 I don't even care anymore.

01:44:27.000 us? I don't even care anymore. I'm just like whatever dude.

01:44:29.000 Eric Cecil says Kyle Kashuv is David Hogg driving the speed limit. Okay I'm not.

01:44:36.000 I think there needs to be more context there to understand what Kyle did.

01:44:39.000 I've been saying this for a long time, the right needs to be advocating for guaranteed gun access.

01:44:48.000 I'm a big fan of the idea that universal gun ownership, like the government should have to pay for people to have a gun.

01:44:56.000 Everybody.

01:44:57.000 Yeah, and you know, the argument is so long as, you know, these left says that health care is a human right and that the government should provide everyone with health care.

01:45:05.000 I'm like, hey, hey, hey, hold on.

01:45:07.000 I got I'm down.

01:45:08.000 I'm down.

01:45:09.000 But I think then everybody should have to get a gun from the government.

01:45:12.000 You know, the right has been sort of overly libertarian in a certain way where the left uses the machinery of the state to indoctrinate and sort of set the playing field.

01:45:21.000 And I think that one thing that Trump has started and that other Republicans are seeing is, hey, If we manage to grab the reins of power for two or four or six years, we shouldn't just, you know, pause the expansion of the state and pause the success of the culture war from one side.

01:45:35.000 We can do something with it.

01:45:37.000 And it's going to be really interesting to see that play out.

01:45:39.000 You know, what's crazy is that there are reins of power at all.

01:45:42.000 I mean, maybe is that in the inevitable superstructure of the universe that there are reins of power?

01:45:46.000 Do they have to be?

01:45:47.000 Meritocracy exists.

01:45:49.000 Whether the communists want to believe it or not, it is a real thing.

01:45:53.000 So look, during Occupy Wall Street, they kept saying, we have no leaders.

01:45:56.000 And I was like, they're standing right there.

01:45:58.000 They're the ones talking to the camera.

01:45:58.000 I can see them.

01:46:00.000 Well, but they're not really leaders.

01:46:02.000 Yes, but whatever they say, you do.

01:46:04.000 You can say they're not formally leaders, but they're clearly the ones who control all the money, who determine when you march, who determine when the meetings happen, and shut down people they don't want to speak.

01:46:12.000 I guess the problem of meritocracy being real is who holds the reins of power isn't necessarily the one with the merit.

01:46:18.000 Well, no, no.

01:46:19.000 I disagree to a certain extent.

01:46:22.000 I mean, certainly we can argue that a great leader who's very smart and capable would be the one with the true merit, but in terms of wielding power is the person capable of wielding it.

01:46:31.000 So it's kind of like you said, there's a giant rock.

01:46:33.000 Who can lift the giant rock?

01:46:34.000 The person capable of picking it up and carrying it.

01:46:36.000 Or who gets there first.

01:46:38.000 Well, no, not really.

01:46:39.000 Who deceives all the others about where the rock is.

01:46:42.000 Look, look, look, could you, if you were, if there's a giant rock, you know, let's say, the Atlas stone we have, what does that weigh, 160?

01:46:51.000 You guys have, you have an Atlas stone, that's awesome.

01:46:53.000 We do, yeah, well someone brought it for us.

01:46:55.000 If, Ian, if the rock, Dwayne Johnson, gave you a 10 minute head start, do you think you'd be able to lift the Atlas stone before him?

01:47:03.000 No.

01:47:04.000 He'd show up, step aside, sir, and then he'd pick it up very easily.

01:47:07.000 There are some people that are built to carry rocks.

01:47:10.000 There are some people who are brutal.

01:47:11.000 Is that how leadership works, too?

01:47:13.000 When you look at, like, Occupy Wall Street, there was a power vacuum.

01:47:17.000 There was a bunch of people there, there was a bunch of interest in funding it, and there was a vacuum in who controlled it until someone said, I will.

01:47:24.000 And everyone went, OK.

01:47:27.000 And then that person took it by saying they wanted it.

01:47:29.000 There's an interesting thing here that whoever takes it, that's sort of the metric that is being tested for.

01:47:35.000 You know, whoever successfully pulls the sword out of the stone or whoever successfully rises to the front of the crowded Occupy.

01:47:41.000 And the mistake the founders make was thinking that whoever could win elections was the best leader or most appealed to the populace.

01:47:49.000 And in a sense, they're right.

01:47:51.000 It most appealed to the populace.

01:47:53.000 But it's a simple test.

01:47:54.000 There's some rule of thumb, and I forget what it is, but whenever you have a metric that's

01:47:58.000 being tested in an organization or in an industrial process, it works for a minute, and then pretty

01:48:05.000 soon it gets subverted because people start optimizing for the test and not for the true

01:48:09.000 underlying thing which you were approximating with the test.

01:48:12.000 And I think that's true of democracy.

01:48:13.000 All right.

01:48:14.000 Atari Kids says slavery in the British Empire ended in 1833, but slavery in England ceased

01:48:19.000 after the Norman Conquest.

01:48:21.000 The Somerset Case of 1772 ruled that slavery was so odious that nothing can be suffered to support it but positive law.

01:48:28.000 Interesting.

01:48:29.000 I've got one piece of tangential thing there, which is I touch on the Norman Conquest in my homesteading books in the context of how deeds work for tractors.

01:48:37.000 Huh.

01:48:38.000 Interesting.

01:48:39.000 JR says you can burn plant matter to make potassium chloride.

01:48:42.000 It's a salt substitute.

01:48:43.000 Can also harvest it from animal blood.

01:48:46.000 Whoa.

01:48:46.000 Oh, really?

01:48:47.000 Yeah, I guess they gotta have salt in them.

01:48:49.000 So I guess you can get salt from deer blood, huh?

01:48:51.000 Uh, true.

01:48:52.000 I make black pudding from pig blood, and it's salty.

01:48:56.000 Oh, blood pudding.

01:48:56.000 Is that blood pudding?

01:48:57.000 Yeah, it's good.

01:48:58.000 Yeah, I love blood pudding.

01:48:59.000 The first time I had it was in the UK, and you get like a black disc.

01:49:02.000 Yep, yep.

01:49:03.000 And they're like, blood pudding.

01:49:03.000 And then I'm like, what's that?

01:49:04.000 I'm like, cool!

01:49:05.000 I know a lot of people who hate it, but I'm like, food's food, man.

01:49:07.000 Nah, it's decent.

01:49:08.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:49:09.000 All right.

01:49:10.000 Seb says, hi from Sweden.

01:49:11.000 First time catching the show live for obvious reasons.

01:49:13.000 Been subbed since the van videos.

01:49:14.000 Wow, that was like the first video.

01:49:16.000 Excellent, man.

01:49:17.000 Wrong time.

01:49:18.000 What up, dude?

01:49:19.000 All right, let's see.

01:49:21.000 Scary Parody says, officially closed on our Florida home today.

01:49:24.000 Here's 10 bucks to celebrate.

01:49:25.000 I can't wait to be living there.

01:49:26.000 Goodbye, Seattle.

01:49:27.000 Oh, talk about an epic move.

01:49:30.000 Congrats.

01:49:31.000 From Seattle to Florida.

01:49:34.000 Now, my only issue with Florida is the weather.

01:49:36.000 But the governance, it's not bad.

01:49:38.000 That's my only reason, uh, issue with Texas.

01:49:40.000 I'd be there if it weren't for the heat.

01:49:42.000 Oh man.

01:49:43.000 Luke keeps trying to get us to go to New Hampshire.

01:49:45.000 It's good.

01:49:46.000 Even, even before we came out here, he was like, New Hampshire is way better.

01:49:49.000 And I was like, dude, I don't want to be in New Hampshire.

01:49:51.000 It's expensive.

01:49:52.000 There, you know, there's not as much land.

01:49:54.000 It's way more expensive.

01:49:55.000 I'm like, I'll be in the middle of nowhere in the middle of mountains.

01:49:57.000 Plus like, you know, New Hampshire is surrounded by all these blue areas.

01:50:01.000 There is that.

01:50:02.000 Very, very heavily, just every direction.

01:50:02.000 Yeah.

01:50:04.000 But you do got water access.

01:50:06.000 Yep.

01:50:07.000 If the country partitions and New Hampshire is taken over by Massachusetts, then I'll be a refugee.

01:50:07.000 We've got a river.

01:50:13.000 All right, we got a nice big super chat from TRDSCFJC about not liking Black Rifle Coffee Company.

01:50:22.000 YouTube's not going to allow me to read that super chat.

01:50:25.000 Suffice it to say, they are very upset with Black Rifle Coffee.

01:50:28.000 As am I. Saying that they don't support patriots who defend themselves against bad child abusers, felons, and domestic abusers.

01:50:36.000 They say, free Kyle, salty army is legion, the salt must flow and read.

01:50:40.000 Yeah, I saw a lot of bad stuff about Black Rifle.

01:50:42.000 Yeah.

01:50:43.000 Because they're basically lumping in, like, the majority of the right in with the most extreme elements.

01:50:47.000 Absolutely.

01:50:48.000 I was tweeting about, even earlier, a month or so ago, I saw that I think their CEO had donated to a pro-gun control politician who said, no one needs an AR-15.

01:50:56.000 So, uh, you know, Black Rifle is an interesting marketing scheme, but I'm not sending them my money.

01:51:01.000 Well, they were able to get a bunch of money from a lot of conservatives, so.

01:51:06.000 Alright, let's see.

01:51:07.000 Anime Freak says, You guys mentioned a few videos back, text censorship.

01:51:11.000 I work in one of the highest departments you can work in within one of the major carriers and I can say, if a law was made, we likely wouldn't bet an eye implementing it.

01:51:19.000 Interesting.

01:51:20.000 Well, the intention of the government is very scary.

01:51:23.000 John Clapperton says, no native of India or any natural-born subject of his majesty shall be, shall be disabled from holding any place, office, or employment for any reason, uh, employment by reason of his religion, place of birth, dissent, or color, charter of the East India Company.

01:51:39.000 Interesting.

01:51:40.000 Very interesting.

01:51:42.000 Uh, I see a nice little super chat defending Alex Jones.

01:51:42.000 All right.

01:51:42.000 Let's see.

01:51:45.000 Okay.

01:51:46.000 All right.

01:51:47.000 Let's see what we got.

01:51:48.000 People making fun of China.

01:51:49.000 Yeah, absolutely.

01:51:52.000 All right.

01:51:56.000 I've been doing research on helpful weeds.

01:51:58.000 For example, large leafed plantain draws out venom and can be used as a flower substitute.

01:52:03.000 Just to name two uses.

01:52:06.000 It'll leave you speechless, like the book by Michael Knowles.

01:52:08.000 That's out now.

01:52:09.000 That one got me.

01:52:10.000 That genuinely got me.

01:52:11.000 Yeah.

01:52:11.000 Normally I'm catching the speechless ones, but that one got me.

01:52:15.000 Yeah.

01:52:15.000 In terms of like, like wheat flour, right?

01:52:17.000 It's got gluten in it.

01:52:18.000 Is there anything else that you could use that's like comparable?

01:52:20.000 Um, you know, there are other flours.

01:52:23.000 I know that people use acorn flour.

01:52:24.000 I think that the gluten in wheat flour is hard to replace, and I know that rye, etc., just doesn't rise in the same way because you don't get the intermixed gluten.

01:52:34.000 Yeah.

01:52:35.000 All right, let's see.

01:52:36.000 Will Jones says, Timmy is controlled opposition.

01:52:39.000 Who else can guarantee a business success?

01:52:42.000 Well played, comrade.

01:52:43.000 Well played.

01:52:43.000 We like reading our criticism here at Timcast IRL, for sure.

01:52:48.000 Sandra Nadeau says, sorry, divorce will not work.

01:52:51.000 I'm not moving.

01:52:52.000 Nor will I give up my rights.

01:52:53.000 I will stand my ground.

01:52:56.000 Yeah, I hear that.

01:52:58.000 You know, we have, we have conversations about places like Syria where so many people refuse to stay and fight and they fled.

01:53:03.000 And I actually interviewed two young men who refused to fight and fled.

01:53:07.000 And so, I mean, can you blame them?

01:53:09.000 You know, be forced to fight for, for this, this national army and have your rights shipped away and just be cannon fodder or, and, or leave and watch your, your home country fall apart.

01:53:20.000 Not easy, man.

01:53:22.000 All right.

01:53:23.000 Garhent says, Travis, with you writing for Dragon 117, are you buying the new D&D Strixhaven book?

01:53:30.000 If so, are you excited to get your bestie Frenemy?

01:53:32.000 And who's your prom date for D&D prom?

01:53:35.000 I am Rolf Lamau at Hasbro.

01:53:41.000 They are so Kathleen Kennedy in D&D for Wokeness.

01:53:43.000 You play D&D?

01:53:45.000 I did play back D&D.

01:53:47.000 There's some backstory there, which is my, you know, I'm a writer and my first published thing was when I was 13 years old and sent an article into Dragon magazine and that was published in Dragon issue 117 and about 20 years later I saw in passing that TSR, which had been bought by Wizards of the Coast, which had been bought by Hasbro, was republishing all of the old articles.

01:54:10.000 And I happen to remember reading my contract from start to finish, and the contract said that I was selling first serial rights, which meant that if they ever wanted to republish it, they had to pay me.

01:54:20.000 So I sent a letter to Hasbro and said, I'm thrilled to hear about this CD-ROM, pay me.

01:54:25.000 And Hasbro never responded to the letter.

01:54:28.000 They republished the CD-ROM and I sued Hasbro in small claims court for $2,000 because that

01:54:34.000 was the most I could sue for.

01:54:35.000 And Hasbro didn't show and I got $2,000.

01:54:37.000 So that's how, as a 13-year-old, I earned $2,100.

01:54:41.000 I just had to wait 20 years to get most of it.

01:54:45.000 And with regards to TTRPGs, I live in the middle of nowhere.

01:54:49.000 I try to play occasionally online with some friends.

01:54:52.000 I hope to do more of that.

01:54:54.000 I do buy books.

01:54:56.000 It's fun to just see what's going on.

01:54:57.000 And the crazy Insanity SJW stuff in D&D.

01:55:02.000 There's a new...

01:55:06.000 There was some wheelchair thing, because when people do escapism, what they really want to think about is being disabled.

01:55:11.000 And then the new thing that was announced a day or so ago was some sort of new woke Harry Potter bisexual elves in college campaign setting for D&D.

01:55:20.000 And I'm just going to quote the meme of the Chinese guy, it's also tiresome.

01:55:25.000 All right.

01:55:26.000 Scott Mackinthon says, insurance sales is necessary.

01:55:29.000 Ensuring your home and auto is easy.

01:55:30.000 Mostly can be done through a computer and automated process.

01:55:33.000 Large complex commercial industries requiring insurance need a human to underwrite and risk assess.

01:55:38.000 100% agree.

01:55:39.000 And I accept that with the, and I will issue the correction.

01:55:42.000 What I meant to say is there are a lot of people that used to just do like auto.

01:55:46.000 You'd walk in and be like, I want to do auto.

01:55:47.000 And there are still places that do this.

01:55:49.000 There are storefronts and a guy sitting behind a desk waiting for you.

01:55:52.000 Yeah.

01:55:53.000 And to me, I see that.

01:55:54.000 I'm like, that's crazy.

01:55:54.000 Of course, I think they're mostly going away.

01:55:56.000 Yeah.

01:55:57.000 But like that, you know, there's still video stores.

01:56:00.000 Actually, they need them in places with with bad Internet.

01:56:03.000 Yeah.

01:56:03.000 Video stores still exist.

01:56:04.000 I hear that car salesmen are on their way out.

01:56:06.000 You know, Tesla will send the car to your house directly when you go online.

01:56:10.000 You order it online.

01:56:10.000 A lot of companies will do that.

01:56:12.000 Yeah.

01:56:12.000 There's a lot of stuff that is basically just rent seeking.

01:56:15.000 Like maybe at some point it started out.

01:56:17.000 But rent seeking is an economic term.

01:56:19.000 And not rent as any reasonable thing where you're trading money for use of land, but rent where someone just interjects themselves in a transaction and peels their slice off the top and there's no way to get around it.

01:56:29.000 Like a banker.

01:56:30.000 All right, Tim Decker says, March 9th for the win.

01:56:33.000 Why, that's my birthday.

01:56:33.000 Is it your birthday?

01:56:35.000 16 year, 3M mile trucker here.

01:56:38.000 The left has made trucking into cities a loss later with fuel costs and regulations.

01:56:42.000 Drivers already refuse loads to the coasts.

01:56:44.000 Consider that.

01:56:45.000 Yeah, man.

01:56:46.000 You know what I think's happening?

01:56:47.000 You know, we were at an ice cream stand the other day, and there was a huge line, and everyone's buying ice cream.

01:56:51.000 And I thought to myself, how many of these people got jobs?

01:56:53.000 You know, cause a lot of people are getting unemployment.

01:56:55.000 So what does that mean?

01:56:56.000 They're being given money and then they're extracting resources from the system without replacing it.

01:57:01.000 Basically, it's kind of like, I was thinking of, we have a slushie machine downstairs, you know, and, um, when it's full, it's full of slushie, but you got to keep putting slushie in.

01:57:09.000 Eventually the slushie runs out.

01:57:10.000 Well, they're printing slushie.

01:57:12.000 What happens?

01:57:13.000 No, no, they're not.

01:57:13.000 They're not.

01:57:14.000 What they're printing is access to pull the slushie lever.

01:57:17.000 And when you do, when we go to clean the slushie machine, we have to empty it.

01:57:21.000 So we hold the thing open and drain what's left of the slushy and let it all pour out.

01:57:24.000 And that's what feels like it's happening.

01:57:26.000 It's their emptying thing.

01:57:28.000 The great reset.

01:57:29.000 The economy and everything is being stripped of resources very slowly.

01:57:32.000 And then eventually it gets reset, filled with hot water and cleaning solution and scrubbed out.

01:57:37.000 And then something else is put inside.

01:57:39.000 You know, I'm going to go with inflation, or at least argue for it a bit.

01:57:42.000 And one interesting thing is I wrote the first draft of this book about three years ago, and I've been working on it very slowly.

01:57:47.000 And then with COVID, I thought now's the time.

01:57:49.000 Let me, you know, turbo through it and get it done.

01:57:50.000 And so I ended up going through the parts that I'd already written.

01:57:53.000 I ended up checking prices where I said, you know, this rototiller to mount on your tractor is $2,000.

01:57:56.000 And I went back to tractor supply and it's $2,500.

01:57:59.000 And, you know, this chicken fencing is $12.

01:58:02.000 And I, you know, go to Lowes.com and it's $19.

01:58:05.000 There has been a lot of inflation.

01:58:07.000 Oh, man.

01:58:07.000 And I used to laugh at these nut job conspiracists who were saying they're stealth inflation.

01:58:12.000 It's not showing up in the figures.

01:58:13.000 But, you know, I don't know, man, I stumbled into it myself.

01:58:16.000 I think it's real.

01:58:18.000 All right, let's do let's get a couple more in as many as we can. 0.64

01:58:23.000 Alright, let's see.

01:58:23.000 Oh, there was a fighting game that was made in the... I wonder if that would get you banned at this point.

01:58:28.000 video game on this channel.

01:58:30.000 Great guest tonight.

01:58:31.000 Love and enjoy the show nightly.

01:58:32.000 Oh, there was a fighting game that was made in the I wonder if that would get

01:58:36.000 you banned at this point.

01:58:37.000 It was it was a fighting game where it's called like Andrew Yang for president or

01:58:39.000 something. And it was it was actually really fun.

01:58:43.000 And really, I was surprised at how offensive it was because, uh, Elizabeth Warren was wearing Native American gear and she would make stereotypical, like an offensive, you know, sounds and stuff. 1.00

01:58:53.000 And she, and her super move was to like summon a giant bowl or something. 1.00

01:58:56.000 And so it was really just like, but I guess it was making fun of her for being racist.

01:58:59.000 So it's okay.

01:59:00.000 Whatever.

01:59:00.000 And then, you know, Donald Trump throws money as his, his special move or whatever.

01:59:04.000 It was, it was actually a really fun, fun game.

01:59:05.000 Yeah.

01:59:06.000 All right.

01:59:07.000 Let's see.

01:59:08.000 Oh, where are we at?

01:59:12.000 Chelsea Nelson says, My husband is a composer, arranger, and is interested in working with you.

01:59:16.000 He's emailed you a few times at jobs at TimCast.com.

01:59:19.000 DerekNelson.com.

01:59:20.000 Thanks.

01:59:20.000 I will take a look.

01:59:22.000 We may have someone, though.

01:59:23.000 We may, we may.

01:59:24.000 We'll see. 1.00

01:59:27.000 Jack of Blades says, play D&D with me, you cowards! 0.97

01:59:30.000 What's a good way to get in touch with you for your podcast so I can introduce you to the woke psychic brain rat collective imprisoned by vice a la Planescape? 0.95

01:59:38.000 I suppose pitches at timcast.com?

01:59:41.000 Yeah, so one of the shows we're going to do is a weekly D&D series, and we want to do a campaign that's based around modern political ideas, but implemented through D&D.

01:59:50.000 Very cool.

01:59:50.000 And then just see how people play and how they try and resolve some of these situations.

01:59:55.000 I was playing a bunch of Neverwinter Nights today to get re-familiarized with 3.5.

01:59:58.000 The ruleset.

02:00:00.000 3.5?

02:00:00.000 Yeah, the ruleset.

02:00:01.000 One writing project I want to do someday is write a RPG based on the Aristillus science fiction novels.

02:00:01.000 D&D 3.5.

02:00:07.000 So I've got infinite writing projects for the next 10 or 20 years.

02:00:10.000 What's the Aristillus?

02:00:11.000 The science fiction novels that I wrote that I was talking about earlier.

02:00:13.000 Oh yeah, dude.

02:00:16.000 Oh, what's this?

02:00:17.000 Firepower Fantasy says, hey Tim, I mainly wanted a super chat to support your content, but I also have to ask, do any of y'all have some recommended reading?

02:00:24.000 You know, I would recommend you check out Escape the City, and volumes one and two.

02:00:30.000 I was going to say, we should recommend these.

02:00:32.000 Yeah, Travis, literally his books.

02:00:34.000 Actually, I'm really excited that you have these.

02:00:36.000 You're going to give us those books, right?

02:00:38.000 Absolutely.

02:00:39.000 Because we definitely need them.

02:00:40.000 Tim, I will not only give you a set of these books, I will give you a set of wool socks from my sheep.

02:00:45.000 Let me see this.

02:00:46.000 These are literally from your sheep?

02:00:47.000 Like you sheared it and knitted the wool?

02:00:47.000 Yeah.

02:00:49.000 Literally.

02:00:50.000 I outsourced the knitting.

02:00:51.000 Oh, you outsourced the knitting.

02:00:53.000 Yeah.

02:00:53.000 You ever see that video of the, what do they call them, Shrek?

02:00:56.000 The sheep?

02:00:57.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

02:00:58.000 And it was just a massive mass, like, wow, they survive?

02:01:02.000 But you have to shear them, right? 0.63

02:01:03.000 Otherwise they go...

02:01:04.000 So, most sheep, yes.

02:01:06.000 We have a more primitive breed of sheep.

02:01:08.000 And actually, there's pictures of them.

02:01:10.000 These are Icelandic sheep.

02:01:12.000 These pictures are from my farm.

02:01:14.000 I forget the name of this sheep.

02:01:16.000 And again, this is 200 feet from my house in one of the pastures where I keep sheep.

02:01:22.000 I don't even understand, like, looking at this, like, how did this come from a sheep?

02:01:25.000 Right, right.

02:01:26.000 But I know it's where it comes from.

02:01:27.000 Yeah.

02:01:28.000 You know, it starts with my wife opening a stall door in the barn and me wrestling the sheep out, and it ends up a year and a half later, and I'm wearing a set of wool socks myself.

02:01:39.000 You gotta, like, grab their legs.

02:01:40.000 Like, I watch videos of people shearing sheep, and it's pretty intense.

02:01:43.000 Right, right.

02:01:44.000 Yeah, you don't have to tie them up.

02:01:47.000 You know, there's this wrestling thing that if somebody's feet are off the ground, there's not much they can do.

02:01:51.000 So you flip the sheep onto its butt.

02:01:55.000 And yeah, that's how we do the shearing. 0.99

02:01:57.000 And they also get a bunch of vitamins injected, sort of, you know, vitamin paste behind their teeth.

02:02:01.000 And they swallow it and they get a shot.

02:02:04.000 And there's a process we go through a couple times a year.

02:02:06.000 I saw that thing where there was like baby sheep on a conveyor belt.

02:02:08.000 You ever see that?

02:02:09.000 They're like sitting in a slide.

02:02:10.000 I did not.

02:02:11.000 Oh, it was like they were giving shots, like vaccinations.

02:02:13.000 And so it's like they're all just sitting there with their feet up and they slide forward and they fall on a thing and they get dropped on the ground and they run away.

02:02:13.000 Oh, neat, neat, neat.

02:02:19.000 Things were a bit more earthy on our farm.

02:02:21.000 I have a couple of times pulled a baby lamb out of its mother.

02:02:24.000 Whoa.

02:02:26.000 Exciting.

02:02:26.000 And once when there was a breech birth, I loaded a pregnant ewe with a lamb half coming out of her.

02:02:34.000 Into the car, because we don't have a truck right now, drove her next town over to a vet. 1.00

02:02:38.000 So, yeah, we need a conveyor belt.

02:02:40.000 That sounds better.

02:02:41.000 In terms of books, though, shout out to Michael Malice's book, The Anarchist Handbook, and Michael Malice's Speechless, which they're always tricking me into reading.

02:02:48.000 Michael Knowles.

02:02:48.000 Michael Knowles?

02:02:48.000 Yeah, the other Michael.

02:02:49.000 Michael Malice's Anarchist Handbook and Michael Knowles.

02:02:52.000 Too many Michaels.

02:02:53.000 And, uh, what are the books?

02:02:55.000 Carol Ross's The War on Small Business looks incredible.

02:02:57.000 I've still not read that, but The War on Small Business.

02:03:00.000 I still haven't read The Creature from Jekyll Island.

02:03:04.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh Andy knows Unmasked. And uh, does anybody else we need to shout out?

02:03:09.000 I, you know, I still haven't read The Creature from Jekyll Island. I hear it's phenomenal if you're interested in the

02:03:14.000 history of the Federal Reserve.

02:03:15.000 Oh, cool.

02:03:16.000 Alright.

02:03:17.000 We'll do a couple more here.

02:03:18.000 We got Taylor Ludkey says, third generation almond grower.

02:03:21.000 Tim, take it easy on the almonds are terrible for the environment tweets.

02:03:24.000 Almond prices don't need to be beaten down anymore.

02:03:27.000 Going to have to cancel my Timcast membership if this keeps up.

02:03:30.000 I don't think I tweeted that.

02:03:32.000 I think I said that almonds consume tons of water.

02:03:35.000 And so the risk is when California is in a big drought or if there's economic problems, almonds are on the chopping block.

02:03:42.000 Which is sad.

02:03:42.000 I love almonds.

02:03:43.000 I like almonds.

02:03:44.000 I like kind bars.

02:03:45.000 I got almonds all up in them.

02:03:46.000 So good.

02:03:47.000 Alright, here we go.

02:03:47.000 Yes, this is hilarious that there's actually a battle happening over this.

02:03:51.000 Maybe we'll get into this in the bonus segment.

02:03:53.000 kicked out of a TPUSA event by social conservatives.

02:03:56.000 Kyle not only approved, but went on to disavow libertarians and called small government a fantasy.

02:04:01.000 Yes, this is hilarious that there's actually a battle happening over this.

02:04:04.000 And maybe we'll, I think we'll maybe get it.

02:04:06.000 Maybe we'll get into this in the bonus segment.

02:04:08.000 I don't know if we need to, but I am much more libertarian.

02:04:11.000 I think the conservatives are losing tons of allies over this.

02:04:14.000 I certainly understand what the conservatives are saying.

02:04:17.000 I think adult films, generally bad for people, the way it's kind of gone out of control.

02:04:21.000 But at the same time, small government, man, you let people live and let live, and you gotta build that coalition and support people.

02:04:29.000 Like, find out where you agree with people, and you need those allies in that great battle.

02:04:32.000 Yeah, Chrissy Mayer just did a podcast, I believe, with Brandi Love today.

02:04:37.000 Right on.

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02:05:02.000 New shows on the horizon.

02:05:03.000 You guys gotta check out Shane Cashman's articles.

02:05:05.000 Because he's writing about, you know, mysteries and stuff.

02:05:08.000 But these are legit, like, investigations into real world phenomena.

02:05:11.000 We're not talking about, like, some story where a guy claims he went and, you know, his apple pie was actually an alien or something.

02:05:18.000 Like, he writes a story about what's happening with these birds that are going missing.

02:05:21.000 And so, there's a bunch of stories about crows falling from the sky.

02:05:24.000 These are legitimate stories.

02:05:26.000 And then he's, you know, asking the experts, talking to government officials to figure out what's going on.

02:05:31.000 And he did one that was really great, investigating a death.

02:05:35.000 And in West Point that he knew about and it looks like it might be a cover-up.

02:05:39.000 So it's fun stuff.

02:05:40.000 It's fun stuff.

02:05:41.000 It is more like spooky story-esque, but it is real stuff.

02:05:44.000 It's not fiction.

02:05:46.000 It's not speculative.

02:05:47.000 I am no fan of people being like, I swear there was a ghost and I'll prove it.

02:05:51.000 I care about people who are skeptical, but interested in those mysteries.

02:05:54.000 So check that stuff out.

02:05:55.000 There's a new show coming on that soon.

02:05:56.000 We're going to be working on it next couple of weeks to have a full podcast.

02:05:59.000 And you can follow me personally at Timcast.

02:06:02.000 Now, we just shouted out a bunch of your books, but you want to mention your sci-fi books as well.

02:06:06.000 And your social media, too.

02:06:08.000 Great.

02:06:09.000 First science fiction novel was The Powers of the Earth, and it won the Prometheus Award in 2018 for Best Libertarian Science Fiction Novel.

02:06:16.000 My second novel was Causes of Separation, the sequel to the first one, and it also won the Prometheus Award the next year, and I think this is the first time that an author won it two years in a row, and I think it's the first time that maybe self-published books won it.

02:06:30.000 And this is a saga set about 50 years from now about small government people and really kind of a great divorce thing that we've been talking about this whole time.

02:06:39.000 There's this concept of loyalty, voice, or exit, where you disagree with someone, you either act loyal to them and swallow your objections, or you speak up in sort of a democratic way, or you just leave.

02:06:51.000 My personal preference is just leaving.

02:06:53.000 So this is a novel about that.

02:06:54.000 That involves lunar colonization, it involves artificial intelligence, anti-gravity, genetically

02:07:01.000 uplifted dogs, and it's all fairly hard science fiction.

02:07:04.000 It's not, you know, The Force and lightsabers and stuff.

02:07:08.000 Fantasy stuff.

02:07:09.000 Yeah.

02:07:10.000 And, you know, they've got something on the order of 500, 4 1⁄2, or 5 star reviews,

02:07:14.000 so it's decent stuff.

02:07:15.000 And if you like science fiction, please give it a shot.

02:07:16.000 They're big, too.

02:07:17.000 Yeah.

02:07:18.000 I don't write small books.

02:07:20.000 I like big books and I cannot lie.

02:07:22.000 Well, if for some reason HBO licenses for a TV show, just make sure you finish the books before... Right.

02:07:29.000 I think my opinions are such that I would never have a major media deal.

02:07:34.000 I think TimCast is where I belong.

02:07:36.000 Maybe we'll have to do it.

02:07:37.000 You know what I was thinking of doing is taking a room and making the entire room a green screen.

02:07:41.000 Because then you can make movies about anything.

02:07:42.000 Or project green light on the walls all around.

02:07:44.000 That's harder.

02:07:45.000 We could just paint a room green and put lights on it.

02:07:47.000 I'm so into this.

02:07:49.000 Well, Ian, you have a website or something?

02:07:50.000 I do.

02:07:50.000 It's iancrossland.net.

02:07:51.000 And I'm Ian Crossland.

02:07:52.000 Travis, thanks for coming, man.

02:07:53.000 I love talking about the systemic transfer alterations that are potential.

02:07:58.000 Yeah, and PV equals NRT.

02:08:00.000 We'll talk about that more afterwards.

02:08:01.000 We're talking about inflation and free energy.

02:08:04.000 Sounds good.

02:08:05.000 And you guys are more than welcome to follow me on Twitter at Sour Patch Lens.

02:08:09.000 We will see you all over at TimCast.com in the members podcast coming up around 11 or so p.m.

02:08:15.000 Thanks for hanging out.

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