Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Bannon Found GUILTY Of Contempt Of Congress w-Konstantin Kisin

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00:01:01.000 very quickly Steve Bannon was found guilty of contempt of Congress and well I

00:01:18.000 It was kind of to be expected.

00:01:20.000 Steve Bannon was arguing executive privilege, but when he was on trial, his defense team actually didn't bring up any witnesses.

00:01:27.000 So many people are thinking this is some kind of bigger play here, that this may be a strategy to go to a higher court.

00:01:33.000 We'll see.

00:01:33.000 We'll talk about that, of course.

00:01:35.000 But this whole political circumstance around the Biden administration and Democrats targeting former administration officials with arrests and investigation, well, it brings us to a dangerous territory with this other story last night.

00:01:49.000 Lee Zeldin, he's a Republican congressman.

00:01:51.000 He's running for governor.

00:01:52.000 Someone tried to kill him.

00:01:53.000 Now I'm seeing all these news outlets saying allegedly tried to stab but there's a photo of the guy holding a blade in his hand it's got like two-pronged blade and Zelda is grabbing his arm to hold him back I'm like you can see the guy on camera like try to go at his neck so I'm like attempted or alleged well attempted yes but like alleged I was like you watch you watch the guy do it Crazy, crazy stories, man.

00:02:14.000 I did some cursory digging into this guy's background and I think he might be, I could be wrong about this, but just like a default liberal kind of guy, like a regular guy doesn't pay attention to politics all that much but votes Democrat, radicalized by the January 6th committee and Democrat rhetoric around extremist MAGA stuff.

00:02:32.000 Because we know that Democrats have been funding GOP candidates while simultaneously claiming it's an existential threat.

00:02:38.000 So we'll get into that.

00:02:39.000 We'll talk about that.

00:02:39.000 We also got probably the best story ever.

00:02:42.000 It has been leaked, or apparently it's being reported, that Donald Trump, should he win in 2024, he will purge up to 50,000 government employees.

00:02:52.000 And it's funny because the media and the Democrats are like, oh no, he's going to dismantle our government.

00:02:56.000 And I'm like, yeah, all right.

00:03:00.000 So we'll get into all that.

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00:04:28.000 Joining us today to talk about all those stories, as well as a bunch of other stories, is Konstantin Kissin.

00:04:35.000 Hey.

00:04:36.000 Who are you?

00:04:36.000 What do you do, man?

00:04:37.000 I'm a former stand-up comedian turned YouTuber and just written a book called An Immigrant's Love Letter to the West, which is a Sunday Times bestseller as of today, which I'm pleased about.

00:04:47.000 Wow, congratulations.

00:04:47.000 But I co-host a YouTube show called Trigonometry, And it's two things.

00:04:52.000 We interview people, so it's serious interviews, and also we do something called the Raw Show, which is me and my co-host Francis, both comics, just joking around the events of the day.

00:05:01.000 We do every ridiculous accident under the sun, just to make fun of everything and don't take anything too seriously.

00:05:07.000 Right on.

00:05:07.000 We also have another story.

00:05:08.000 Twitter banned the word groomer.

00:05:10.000 They were like, it's a slur against LGBTQ people, so you can't use it.

00:05:14.000 It's like, OK, it's getting a little weird.

00:05:16.000 But we'll talk about that, too, for sure.

00:05:18.000 We also have Hannah Clare.

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00:05:19.000 Hi.

00:05:19.000 Yeah, I'm Hannah Clare Brimelow.

00:05:20.000 I'm a writer for TimCast.com.

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00:05:41.000 If I get fired live on air.

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00:05:58.000 I'm Ian Crossland, by the way.

00:06:00.000 Constantine, I'm looking forward to talking about your book.

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00:06:02.000 Really quick before we get going.

00:06:04.000 Very, very quickly.

00:06:06.000 I am worried that in the West we're moving in the direction of the society that I grew up in, which was the late Soviet Union, in terms of many of the things that I'm seeing.

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00:06:18.000 Thanks for writing that.

00:06:19.000 We'll talk more about it soon.

00:06:21.000 I feel like I'm interrupting everyone this evening.

00:06:23.000 I interrupted Hannah Clare to bring her on the show, which is great.

00:06:25.000 I keep trying to keep her from being nervous.

00:06:27.000 And then Ian, I'm casting it over to him and he's trying to gnaw on this honey thing.

00:06:31.000 I'm sorry, everyone.

00:06:32.000 I'm just here in the corner pushing buttons like I always do.

00:06:35.000 Let's get going.

00:06:35.000 I'm excited to have All right, the first story on a Friday, of course.

00:06:39.000 It's actually kind of big news.

00:06:41.000 Steve Bannon's been found guilty of two charges in contempt of Congress trial.

00:06:46.000 It's a minimum of two years for each count, but would they really give him that long?

00:06:50.000 Some are saying it's gonna be two months.

00:06:52.000 He's gonna get the bare minimum.

00:06:54.000 They're gonna say two months to run concurrently for both counts, but we'll see the story.

00:07:00.000 Steve Bannon said, we may have lost a battle here today, but we are not going to lose this war.

00:07:05.000 Bannon is the former executive chairman of Breitbart News, as well as a former advisor to President Trump.

00:07:10.000 The conviction comes after a four-day trial during which the Justice Department argued Bannon believes he's above the law, and showed he chose to show his contempt for Congress's authority and its processes by refusing to comply with the January 6th Committee's subpoenas.

00:07:24.000 Well, instead of just reading this, let me just ask Hannah Clare, what's going on with this story?

00:07:28.000 Are there any other developments, or, you know, what's your reporting on it?

00:07:31.000 Yeah, well, the major thing is that he has been following this line that he was exercising executive privilege from President Trump, that Trump's lawyers had encouraged him not to testify before the committee, not to submit any documents.

00:07:45.000 And they're saying this is within, you know, Official protocol, it's acceptable.

00:07:49.000 The January 6th committee says no.

00:07:51.000 He knew he was supposed to comply with the subpoenas.

00:07:54.000 He has to turn over the documents.

00:07:55.000 He needed to testify.

00:07:57.000 You have to remember that the January 6th committee has subpoenaed a hundred people.

00:08:00.000 The only other person to be indicted is Peter Navarro.

00:08:05.000 Thank you.

00:08:06.000 And throughout the trial, it was a four-day trial, and we had Basically, the Justice Department saying, this is ridiculous.

00:08:13.000 It's simple.

00:08:13.000 He was supposed to be there.

00:08:14.000 And we had Bannon's attorneys arguing that, no, there's precedent in the way.

00:08:19.000 And also he was in the middle of negotiating terms.

00:08:23.000 We've seen a couple other people.

00:08:24.000 I think Mo Brooks said, yeah, I'll testify before January 6th, but I want it to be televised.

00:08:29.000 I want it to be recorded.

00:08:29.000 There are people who are uncomfortable with the way this investigation is being carried out.

00:08:35.000 So a lot of the story or a lot of the feeling is that they're trying to make an example of Bannon.

00:08:39.000 Right here, the first that comes to mind is Konstantin, is this becoming Soviet-esque?

00:08:45.000 Yeah, I don't know too much about it.

00:08:46.000 I think it's scary in a different way to me as a complete outsider who maybe doesn't follow the legal details

00:08:51.000 But just seeing how divided this country is and I love America

00:08:56.000 I think it's a brilliant place But seeing how angry and people both sides are trying to

00:09:00.000 destroy each other right down burn everything down to the ground is 0.63

00:09:03.000 Very worrying because it's not just about America like we everywhere in the world in the UK where I live

00:09:09.000 We import all of this stuff and then we start doing the same thing to each other

00:09:13.000 So it's really really worrying the way things are going man I think

00:09:18.000 When you have the previous administration and the rival political party

00:09:22.000 arresting the We have the current administration sorry and rival

00:09:27.000 Democratic Party arresting their rivals and the previous administration. Yeah, we're there man

00:09:32.000 So Steve Bannon is... Let me put it this way.

00:09:35.000 The January 6th committee is a sham.

00:09:37.000 It's fake. 0.64

00:09:39.000 It's lies.

00:09:40.000 They included me in their evidence.

00:09:42.000 So right away, I'm already like, everybody, I know most people listening know this, but... Were you the shaman guy?

00:09:47.000 No, no.

00:09:48.000 They claimed that Trump supporters were encouraging people to go down and get violent.

00:09:53.000 And they put me in their montage of people because I commented on a comment Trump made as I was reading a news article.

00:10:01.000 I said, Donald Trump says this will happen and has called for his supporters.

00:10:04.000 So they put me in this montage because their goal is just to lie and drive escalation.

00:10:09.000 What we've been seeing the Democrats do is they've been putting money into Trump-supported candidates, like Trump-endorsed candidates, so that they win, because they believe come November, they will then beat the Trump candidate, right?

00:10:22.000 They're coming out on January 6th and saying, it's an existential threat to our country, but then funding the message and propping it up. 0.96

00:10:29.000 So Steve Bannon gets a subpoena, and first and foremost, he didn't just say, screw you.

00:10:33.000 He said, the president has executive privilege, meaning, you know, we don't have to comply with Congress.

00:10:39.000 There's got to be some negotiation, right?

00:10:42.000 Their argument that Trump's not the president therefore doesn't count, but I'm like, but he was.

00:10:49.000 You lose your executive privilege the moment you're out of office, then we'd be going after every single president ever.

00:10:54.000 Why aren't they going after Bush over the Middle Eastern war stuff?

00:10:58.000 This is purely, I think, we're getting into authoritarian, fascistic, communistic, whatever you want to call it, where there's the Uniparty, neocons and neolibs.

00:11:10.000 And if you oppose them, they will destroy you.

00:11:13.000 And the people who work in government are just going to, you know, turn along with it.

00:11:17.000 Well, let's remember that the two Republicans on this committee are Adam Kinzinger and Liz Cheney, who are notoriously unpopular in the Republican Party.

00:11:24.000 I mean, they'll say it's bipartisan, but you have to question why they didn't appoint someone who had a more opposing perspective from the Democrats that are leaving this committee.

00:11:36.000 It's clearly not something that they were interested in doing.

00:11:39.000 I think with Bannon, ultimately, he has just become a man with a target on his back. They

00:11:46.000 know that if they can make this advisor to Trump who is outside of he represents to a lot of normal

00:11:52.000 Americans a lot of normal liberal Americans sort of the fear of who Trump is cultivating or who Trump

00:11:58.000 works with and I think by fine I mean I think if he goes to jail for let's say 60 days they also

00:12:04.000 can fine him between 100 and 100,000.

00:12:06.000 So if they hit him with a $200,000 fine, they put him in jail for 60 days, they have sort of landed an arrow on Bannon.

00:12:13.000 And that's really all this is.

00:12:14.000 Tim, can I steelman?

00:12:15.000 Like, I'm just curious, because I always like playing devil's advocate, is what I do on our show.

00:12:18.000 So if you take the steelman version of the Democrat argument, right?

00:12:23.000 Wouldn't they say what happened on January the 6th was an attempt to overthrow democracy?

00:12:28.000 And we have to make sure this never happens again, which is why we're doing this.

00:12:31.000 Is that what they would say?

00:12:33.000 One more time.

00:12:33.000 The Democrats are arguing that?

00:12:35.000 January 6th, it's an attempt to overthrow democracy, and they have to follow the legal process to make sure that never happens again.

00:12:41.000 That's essentially their argument.

00:12:43.000 And what's wrong with that argument, in your opinion?

00:12:45.000 It's not real.

00:12:46.000 So they're trying to... So I'll give you an example using me.

00:12:50.000 They're trying to argue there was an organized effort, a conspiracy, to overthrow the U.S.

00:12:55.000 government, even though the FBI says that's not true.

00:12:58.000 Initially they did.

00:12:59.000 Now you've got seditious conspiracy charges, and I think it's all fake for a variety of reasons.

00:13:05.000 One, you've got They had this unnamed co-conspirator and the guy actually like revealed himself saying like here's the chat messages we were saying no violence it was like it was like criticizing people who are arguing for violence you've got Ray Epps for instance this guy who's out in the street on camera telling people to go in no charges the media defends him the reality is

00:13:27.000 There were no cops protecting the perimeter.

00:13:30.000 Like, there was no substantial police force.

00:13:31.000 There were some cops.

00:13:32.000 Police opened the door to the Capitol.

00:13:34.000 Did you know that?

00:13:34.000 Yeah.

00:13:35.000 Police opened the door.

00:13:36.000 They fanned people in.

00:13:37.000 There was a riot at one side, and there were people shoving their way in some areas, and maybe half of the people who walked in were invited in by the police.

00:13:45.000 The cops opened the doors, waved them in.

00:13:47.000 Oh no, all of this I agree with and I totally accept.

00:13:50.000 I guess what I'm saying is, I think from their perspective, a more plausible explanation is, they thought Donald Trump was Hitler, right?

00:13:58.000 Yeah.

00:13:58.000 And then his supporters stormed the Capitol.

00:14:01.000 Storm, inverted commas.

00:14:02.000 Well, I mean, if their perspective is based on the fact that they're wrong... Oh, no, I'm not disagreeing with you.

00:14:08.000 I'm just saying I think the reason they're behaving in this way is they decided evil Hitler and his supporters did this. 0.50

00:14:14.000 No, they're funding these people.

00:14:17.000 You think it's deliberate?

00:14:18.000 I mean, I don't think.

00:14:19.000 It's reported, fact, that the Democrats' Governor's Association put $1.16 million dollars into... Who's Dan Cox?

00:14:27.000 Yeah, Dan Cox of Maryland, he's running as the Republican candidate for governor.

00:14:30.000 They're literally funding the people they claim are threatening democracy, so there's no way they believe that's true.

00:14:35.000 It's not monolithic, though.

00:14:36.000 The Democrats—it gets kind of vague, because when Marjorie Taylor Greene was here last night, I listened to you guys talking.

00:14:40.000 She was saying the Democrats want to—she's talking about the Democrat congressmen and women, but when you say the Democrats, you're talking about, like, the Governor's Association. 0.97

00:14:48.000 Yeah, the Democratic National Committee and the voters are a bunch of naive, ignorant people who are marching in lockstep with fake news. 0.82

00:14:55.000 Because the people that assign themselves Democrat when they vote are considered Democrats, but they're not the Democratic Congress people. 0.92

00:15:02.000 So it's a lot of disparate beliefs.

00:15:04.000 We're talking about the political party.

00:15:06.000 It's just such a large, disparate faction of people.

00:15:08.000 It's all of them.

00:15:09.000 It is.

00:15:09.000 Like some want this, some want that, some think it was... No, no, no.

00:15:13.000 This is not the point.

00:15:14.000 The point is there's democratic leadership and infrastructure, and the infrastructure and leadership and money has an agenda and a goal.

00:15:21.000 True, but to say that because the Democratic Governors Association is funding Trump candidates doesn't mean that all Democrats are funding Trump candidates.

00:15:29.000 No, it means the Democratic establishment is applying resources in that direction in many ways, while simultaneously the same establishment is screaming that this is the end of democracy.

00:15:38.000 So who controls the Democratic establishment?

00:15:41.000 I mean, you can point to a handful of people.

00:15:42.000 For a while it was Hillary Clinton.

00:15:45.000 You can say Barack Obama was the leader of the party.

00:15:47.000 There's a bunch of people involved.

00:15:48.000 There's John Podesta.

00:15:49.000 But I don't know, you know, at this point it seems like it's fractured and falling apart.

00:15:54.000 And so that could be why it seems chaotic and it seems so insane.

00:15:59.000 It used to very much be that there were prominent individuals that you knew were running the show.

00:16:04.000 If you take a look at back in 2020, when the Boston Globe reported on the war games they were doing, you can see who it was.

00:16:10.000 It was Hillary Clinton's campaign staff, former campaign staff.

00:16:13.000 It's Joe Biden.

00:16:15.000 But you look at the Biden administration, it feels like the Democratic Party is a chicken with its head cut off, running around randomly, spraying things around.

00:16:22.000 The body is still there.

00:16:24.000 You know, it's still moving around, but it's lost purpose.

00:16:28.000 So that's why I think it's so dejected and insane.

00:16:31.000 But yeah, simply put, the Democratic voter base is the voter of believing Jussie Smollett.

00:16:38.000 Sorry, these are the people who believe Jussie Smollett.

00:16:41.000 Right, but this is exactly what my point was going to be, because what I see on the left

00:16:45.000 is a bunch of overreactions, sort of like AOC, every time something happens, it was

00:16:50.000 like a terrorist attack in her head when someone just made some offensive comments.

00:16:54.000 I got to stop you.

00:16:55.000 Well, I mean, yes, but she fabricated the story from January 6th.

00:16:58.000 Oh, of course.

00:16:58.000 That's what I'm saying.

00:16:59.000 It's not an overreaction.

00:17:00.000 It's deliberate fabrication.

00:17:02.000 Could be both.

00:17:03.000 Could be both, right?

00:17:04.000 That's kind of what I'm... Like, a big problem on the left that I see is people exaggerating the nature of everything that happens.

00:17:10.000 They're so obsessed with being a victim, everything makes them extra victim.

00:17:14.000 And that's why I was just asking the question, right?

00:17:16.000 Because I don't know that much about this.

00:17:18.000 I was just sort of posing it as a question, which is, is it not their perspective that this thing that nearly happened would have been absolutely awful, and they really, really, really, really, really want to prevent it from No.

00:17:28.000 But you don't agree. 0.99

00:17:28.000 Oh, it's bullshit. 0.99

00:17:29.000 I agree. 1.00

00:17:30.000 the more reasonable argument.

00:17:31.000 But just, it's just not the case.

00:17:34.000 Well, no, I mean, it's when you look at AOC's story from January 6th. 0.99

00:17:38.000 Oh, it's bullshit. 0.98

00:17:39.000 But, but I mean, totally fabricated. 1.00

00:17:40.000 I agree.

00:17:41.000 Not just BS.

00:17:42.000 She altered the timeline of what happened.

00:17:43.000 Right.

00:17:44.000 She literally fabricated the circumstances.

00:17:46.000 There's- Which people who've been through trauma do, right?

00:17:49.000 Fabricate stories?

00:17:52.000 A day later?

00:17:52.000 She faked having handcuffs the other day.

00:17:53.000 That's what people do, man.

00:17:54.000 That's what happens. That's why you can't get witnesses.

00:17:57.000 She faked having handcuffs the other day. Yeah, that's what that's what people do man 1.00

00:18:00.000 But that's not trauma. That's malicious evil. It could be both

00:18:04.000 It could be laziness.

00:18:05.000 I agree.

00:18:05.000 How do you know that?

00:18:06.000 None of us know.

00:18:06.000 You're staring at a politician who has overtly and repeatedly fabricated things and been

00:18:10.000 caught doing it.

00:18:11.000 I agree.

00:18:12.000 And you're like, well, maybe it's, you know, it's not trauma.

00:18:15.000 She's doing it on purpose because it gives her power. 0.99

00:18:16.000 It gives her followers.

00:18:17.000 It gets attention from it.

00:18:18.000 I mean, the big example here is that she is got there's a couple of video clips of her 0.99

00:18:22.000 changing her accent based on who she's speaking to.

00:18:24.000 Seriously.

00:18:25.000 Right. 0.98

00:18:27.000 They talk down to black people when they're talking to them.

00:18:29.000 So the fact that, I mean, if you would make the assumption that the numerous times AOC's fabricated stories, and I can give you like five at the top of my head, that it's all accidental or the result of trauma, that is a conspiracy theory.

00:18:43.000 Like, that is on par with like, you might as well go buy a lottery ticket because if all those things are coincidences, you've won the lottery by now.

00:18:49.000 No, the simple solution is, if it walks like a duck, if it quacks like a duck, you've got a duck.

00:18:55.000 AOC, she lies.

00:18:56.000 She lied when she led the protest in the financial district to get Amazon booted from New York, and then when Amazon jumped out of New York, dropping, I think, what was it, like $30 billion in revenue over 10 years, she goes, I had nothing to do with that.

00:19:08.000 It's not even my district.

00:19:09.000 You look at January 6th, you look at changing her accent, you look at faking her handcuffs, the woman literally just fabricates things with a smile on her face.

00:19:17.000 Oh, I agree with you.

00:19:18.000 So to say that's the result of trauma, though... No, I'm not saying it's all the result of trauma.

00:19:22.000 One of it is.

00:19:23.000 What I'm saying is sometimes people exaggerate their experience.

00:19:27.000 Sometimes deliberately, sometimes not.

00:19:29.000 Do you see what I'm saying?

00:19:30.000 Oh, sure, sure.

00:19:31.000 So I think with her it's both.

00:19:32.000 But there's a difference between... She's a politician, of course she lies. 1.00

00:19:34.000 There's a difference between exaggerating and fabrication.

00:19:37.000 Right.

00:19:38.000 Exaggerating would be like, if AOC said that when the cop knocked on her door and said, where is she?

00:19:45.000 She got scared because she didn't know who this person was and felt threatened by it.

00:19:49.000 I would have been like, that's an exaggeration probably.

00:19:51.000 Instead, she claimed she thought that the rioters got to her a full hour before the rioters breached the building and no one had any idea they would have done that.

00:19:59.000 That's a fabrication, not an exaggeration.

00:20:01.000 Like, no one even came in the building.

00:20:03.000 She turned one circumstance into a different circumstance because she had hindsight.

00:20:08.000 She knew the circumstances of the day, and she knew most people did not know the timeline.

00:20:12.000 So when I saw that story, I said, this doesn't make sense.

00:20:15.000 She thought they got in her building?

00:20:17.000 And what do we hear from conservatives?

00:20:18.000 They were like, AOC wasn't even in the Capitol!

00:20:21.000 The fact checkers come out and say, the Capitol is connected to those buildings by underground tunnels.

00:20:25.000 And then I said, and her story took place an hour before anyone breached the Capitol in the first place.

00:20:30.000 Did she, was she psychic?

00:20:32.000 Did she know it was going to happen?

00:20:34.000 The reason the cops went to her door was because they were evacuating over a bomb scare.

00:20:38.000 She did not know.

00:20:39.000 In fact, she had just gone out for lunch or something.

00:20:42.000 Why was she hiding in the bathroom? 0.78

00:20:44.000 She fabricated the story.

00:20:45.000 When someone came and knocked on her door, she claimed she went and hid in the bathroom.

00:20:48.000 Why?

00:20:49.000 There was no breaching of the Capitol.

00:20:51.000 She's just sitting in her office one day and someone knocks on the door and she's like, oh, you better go hide in the bathroom because she fabricated the story. 0.96

00:20:57.000 I agree with you that witnesses to crimes can, under stress, misremember things and things become confusing or hyperbolic.

00:21:05.000 But with AOC, she has a track record.

00:21:08.000 I mean, I still think about her photos at the southern border where she's crying and it turns out there's nothing there.

00:21:13.000 She is a master of political theater.

00:21:16.000 And I think in certain points that served her well.

00:21:19.000 And she knows that, to a certain extent, her voter base isn't going to question her anyways.

00:21:22.000 Like, she could say anything and they'd be like, you go, girl, let me see what your skincare routine is. 1.00

00:21:26.000 My desire to play devil's advocate has got me defending AOC, which I had no intention of doing whatsoever.

00:21:32.000 Well, let's jump to the next story, the escalation in this.

00:21:35.000 Check this out.

00:21:36.000 This was huge breaking news yesterday.

00:21:38.000 Lee Zeldin, a Republican from New York, someone tried to stab him.

00:21:41.000 And they're saying it was an alleged stabbing.

00:21:43.000 And I'm like, there's a picture of the guy holding I don't know what it's called, but it's got two blades on it in his hand as he's, like, going, and then Zeldin's holding his arm back.

00:21:51.000 You watch the video.

00:21:52.000 First, the guy didn't run full speed and jump up.

00:21:55.000 He casually gets up, walks up to him and goes like this, and then gets his arm grabbed.

00:21:59.000 Almost like he didn't really want to do it, but I'm not gonna say that.

00:22:02.000 He went for it and got taken, you know, pulled down, thrown down.

00:22:07.000 This dude got released immediately.

00:22:09.000 Which Lee Zeldin predicted that night.

00:22:11.000 But we're talking about a man who attempted to assassinate, at minimum, attempted to stab in the neck a Republican running for governor and they just cut him loose right away.

00:22:26.000 That only happens in the UK.

00:22:27.000 That's New York state law.

00:22:28.000 It's interesting because Lee Zeldin, one of his major platforms running, he's challenging Kathy Hogle, is that the crime laws in New York are terrible and that they don't keep people safe who need to be kept safe.

00:22:41.000 So it's just irony of irony that he was like, I can tell you, he said this at 1.30 in the morning, like, under New York state law, this man will be released.

00:22:49.000 And he was completely right because he knows the law.

00:22:51.000 They charged him with attempted second degree assault.

00:22:54.000 You jump on stage to a sitting member of Congress, when a sitting member of Congress is there, with a blade in your hand and go for his neck and that's it?

00:23:05.000 I've heard some arguments that he was actually reaching for the microphone and that the blade, it's not a knife.

00:23:12.000 Because the governor, Zeldin, said that he said you're done to him before he came at him.

00:23:17.000 Maybe he was going to try and grab the microphone.

00:23:18.000 Well, why does he have a weapon in his hand?

00:23:20.000 See, if you're approaching a guy with a weapon, that's attempted murder.

00:23:23.000 I've heard other people say, well, those are like self-defense keychains.

00:23:26.000 They're not that serious.

00:23:27.000 But it's like, why would we sell them to women for self-defense? 0.97

00:23:29.000 That's what they are.

00:23:31.000 If you're attacked at night, they want you to be able to hit your attacker and have more force.

00:23:34.000 I mean, it's a very strange thing to do.

00:23:36.000 And it is even stranger to me that he's just on the street.

00:23:40.000 Do you have a picture of the blade?

00:23:41.000 Yep.

00:23:41.000 Yeah, let me see if I can pull it up on Twitter.

00:23:42.000 This is wild.

00:23:43.000 I'm not, uh, I'm not gonna provide a defense for a guy who jumped on stage holding a blade and going after a sitting member of Congress.

00:23:51.000 And telling him he's done.

00:23:52.000 Allegedly.

00:23:53.000 I don't know.

00:23:54.000 Yeah, so it's like... Who knows what that is?

00:23:57.000 I don't know what it's called.

00:23:59.000 People probably know what it's called.

00:24:00.000 It's got two spikes on it.

00:24:01.000 You hold it between your fingers.

00:24:02.000 They're self-defense keychains.

00:24:03.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:24:05.000 And in the video, you can see his arm go up and around towards the neck.

00:24:08.000 And that's what a lot of people reported, that he took a swing at his neck, at Zeldin's neck, and then they grabbed his arm, and then someone bear-hugged him and pinned him down.

00:24:16.000 You jump on stage wielding a weapon saying, you're done, and then move your arm around with the blade in it.

00:24:22.000 Like, dude, come on.

00:24:24.000 Is there a video of it, of the attack?

00:24:25.000 I guess we'll call it an attack.

00:24:26.000 There is.

00:24:26.000 There are some flowing along.

00:24:28.000 Yeah, you can't see that much, but you can look it up.

00:24:31.000 It's a little far away, but you can see him, reach for it.

00:24:33.000 I just think, regardless, this is, here's what I think of this guy.

00:24:36.000 I did some digging into his background and his family and stuff, trying to find out what I could about him.

00:24:41.000 I don't know a whole lot. 0.99

00:24:43.000 And this is based on some of his family, but it seems like they're default Democrat types, like naive, ignorant, not really paying attention. 0.97

00:24:50.000 My personal assumption is that this guy is probably a dude who watches MSNBC and CNN. 0.98

00:24:55.000 Here's the rhetoric.

00:24:56.000 Here's what Hochul says about Zeldin being a big lie Trump insurrectionist type.

00:25:01.000 And so he's like, I better do something about this.

00:25:04.000 So he goes out there thinking he's going to stop this guy.

00:25:06.000 Radicalization.

00:25:08.000 This is what I wrote about in the Newsweek article about January 6.

00:25:12.000 The reason Raskin included me Out of context, in his video, is to drive escalation.

00:25:18.000 So already, we've had people who work for me and people I know say they saw, like, the reason that the Newsweek article came to be is because I got hit up by Newsweek and they said, the moment we saw you in that clip, we knew something's not right here.

00:25:33.000 Well, this is the point I made earlier.

00:25:34.000 this and there were a bunch of people who hit me up and said like my family saw that and they were

00:25:37.000 like whoa that's the guy you watch and they had to explain to them that it was fake that they're

00:25:42.000 lying about this but it's radicalizing people. Well this is the point I made earlier if you

00:25:46.000 remember when we started with Bannon it's like this worries me because your country is being

00:25:51.000 radicalized against itself it's and the two sides are being encouraged to see each other as enemies.

00:25:57.000 You talk about it in war-like terms.

00:25:59.000 It's a war. 0.98

00:26:00.000 We have to destroy them. 0.99

00:26:01.000 And this is what you end up with, people going on stage trying to stab politicians. 0.88

00:26:05.000 I tell you, there are people on the right who are certainly saying stuff about the Tree of Liberty and things like that.

00:26:11.000 The people on the left are You have the establishment left, which is the Democratic.

00:26:18.000 They're the ones calling for conflict.

00:26:21.000 They're the ones saying, like, arrest them, shut them down, take away their votes.

00:26:25.000 And then you have the leftists, the socialists, who just, they've always wanted revolution anyway.

00:26:29.000 So they're like, bring it on.

00:26:30.000 Then you have the more fringe elements of the right side that are saying tree of liberty

00:26:35.000 and crazy stuff like that.

00:26:37.000 But then when you look at the prominent right and middle, which is unified, it's totally

00:26:42.000 opposed to all the conflict and violence.

00:26:44.000 So I think the main issue is what do we talk about when we talk about the Civil War or

00:26:50.000 It's usually like a national divorce.

00:26:52.000 Can it be peaceful?

00:26:53.000 And how do we prepare for it to protect ourselves against attacks, not to attack?

00:26:57.000 You look at the left and they're talking about how to go and arrest people and shut them, and they're mocking Bannon.

00:27:02.000 They're wielding the power of the federal government against the previous administration.

00:27:06.000 They are wielding law enforcement power to destroy their enemies.

00:27:09.000 My worry is, though, Tim, is if you think about this story, right, if that politician who's a Republican, right, if he gets stabbed, that will radicalize people on the right as well.

00:27:17.000 And this is the process.

00:27:18.000 You go from one to another to another, and before you know it, everyone wants to kill each other.

00:27:22.000 But maybe radicalize isn't the right word.

00:27:24.000 I mean, we literally just saw someone try to assassinate Brett Kavanaugh.

00:27:29.000 These leftist groups broke the law, and the AG did nothing about it.

00:27:34.000 And everybody asked them, like, hey, you know, This was illegal, and he's like, don't care.

00:27:40.000 I said this.

00:27:41.000 If you do not uphold the law when it comes to protesting at this home, they will escalate.

00:27:46.000 Of course.

00:27:46.000 And the next step was the guy showed up with the crowbar and the rope and the taser or whatever he had, pepper spray.

00:27:51.000 It really is like a fire.

00:27:52.000 If you don't put it out, it just keeps growing.

00:27:54.000 Well, if you don't enforce the law equally for both sides, you have no law.

00:27:59.000 It's not radicalization when we just had two assassination attempts in the span of like a month or so.

00:28:05.000 For someone on the right to be like, I better bring a gun with me.

00:28:08.000 It's not a radicalization.

00:28:10.000 It's not them saying they want to kill someone.

00:28:11.000 It's them saying, I don't want to be killed.

00:28:13.000 I watched the video.

00:28:14.000 I don't think he's trying to kill him.

00:28:15.000 He walked up to him and then he started talking to him and actually backed away like a half a foot and then started to grab at him.

00:28:22.000 So it wasn't assault.

00:28:24.000 But he would have walked up- With a blade in his hand?

00:28:26.000 Yeah, he, like, walked up and started talking to him.

00:28:28.000 But why does he need to become- go armed?

00:28:30.000 And the other thing, to Tim's point, is that- Does his arm go around for the neck?

00:28:33.000 Uh, they struggled, yeah.

00:28:34.000 He lifted his arm up with the blade. 0.99

00:28:36.000 If he wanted to kill him, he would have walked up and killed him really fast. 0.92

00:28:38.000 That's not true. 0.99

00:28:38.000 You don't walk up and start talking to someone if you want to kill them. 0.99

00:28:40.000 You are wrong.

00:28:40.000 In fact, the most effective way to do it is to do it slowly.

00:28:44.000 Uh, not on stage and with security.

00:28:45.000 Running at someone immediately gets you tackled.

00:28:48.000 Oh, yeah, his approach, for sure.

00:28:49.000 But once he stood, got up to him, he just stood there and started talking to him.

00:28:52.000 And then they struggled.

00:28:54.000 I'm not gonna say I know what he was thinking, but he had a blade in his hand and he motioned for his neck.

00:28:59.000 And people often make these mistakes because they base their views on movies.

00:29:02.000 In a movie, you see the guy jump up and, ah, I'm gonna get you!

00:29:05.000 When you look in real life, assassinations could be very, very simple.

00:29:09.000 And I'll tell you, I'll tell you about, uh, I was, you ever see those theaters, those theater events where they have the ninja and, uh, or actually as a better example, I'll start this way.

00:29:19.000 You ever see those, those comedy routines where there's a black, a black background on a stage and then the guy will get fake slashed and then his body splits cause it's actually two people wearing, you know, a white, white pants and a white shirt, but then they're wearing all black.

00:29:32.000 The idea of why ninja wear all black was because they would do plays.

00:29:36.000 And to make the ninja not be able to be seen on stage, she would wear all black against a black backdrop. 0.95

00:29:42.000 Then when they popped out and did something, you'd go, oh, it was a ninja!

00:29:44.000 In reality, ninja would dress like a farmer.

00:29:47.000 If you want to infiltrate to assassinate someone, you have to blend in, not wear all black. 0.88

00:29:52.000 And they would do other tricks too.

00:29:53.000 And they would calmly approach, not psychotically run up full speed and scream, ah!

00:29:58.000 They'd walk up very calmly and smile and wave.

00:30:01.000 So what you're saying is this guy's a ninja.

00:30:02.000 What I'm saying is that, that right there, you cannot determine whether it was an assassination attempt because he walked slowly or not.

00:30:09.000 It's true.

00:30:10.000 In fact, I think walking slowly is, is more.

00:30:12.000 Yeah, but Ian, if a guy like walks up to you with that thing on his hand in the street, you'd be worried, right?

00:30:18.000 For sure.

00:30:18.000 If someone approaches me on the street, I'm worried.

00:30:21.000 Right, right.

00:30:22.000 But it's but it's but it's ready to run. This is you're on stage and when the sky gets up and walks over

00:30:27.000 He's wearing like a veteran hat. They're thinking like what's happening. I'll tell you another story famous story

00:30:31.000 Or I should say it may be apocryphal urban legend a security guard was in a bank three guys walk in with with

00:30:37.000 ski masks on and rifles and And they just walk right up to him and say drop your gun

00:30:41.000 and he goes oh, he drops it and then they robbed the bank and

00:30:44.000 And after, they asked the security guard, why didn't you do anything?

00:30:46.000 And he was like, I couldn't believe it was actually happening.

00:30:49.000 Like, I don't know.

00:30:50.000 They walked up to me and just took my gun.

00:30:52.000 You want to play this clip?

00:30:54.000 No.

00:30:54.000 Oh, we can't?

00:30:55.000 We can't play an assassination attempt on YouTube, dude.

00:30:57.000 Okay, I see what you're saying.

00:30:58.000 Zeldin addressed it, and he said, like, I could see this guy coming out of the corner of my eye.

00:31:02.000 Like, I could see he had a hat on that maybe had a veteran's thing.

00:31:04.000 But like, when this is happening, you can't really Stop to be like, oh, I'm gonna reason with him.

00:31:09.000 Like, you just have to deal with what's going on.

00:31:11.000 Like, grabbed his wrist, things like that.

00:31:13.000 I will also note that the HOKL campaign specifically called out this event in an email saying, like, it's a MAGA Republican bus tour.

00:31:22.000 That big line lead is like, like, they drew attention to this event.

00:31:26.000 They're radicalized people and then pointed them in this direction.

00:31:28.000 Yeah, because that's the big I mean, we are very divided country and especially in New York.

00:31:33.000 You see it as HOKO lining up behind a lot of the more liberal policies that New York has carried through the pandemic and then.

00:31:41.000 Zeldin is a vocal Trump supporter, so they are a perfect contrast.

00:31:46.000 And to have this become something that's happening in their state, and then for him to correctly call out that the guy who attacked him is going to be released, it doesn't look great.

00:31:54.000 They're not really looking for a mediation between these two sides.

00:31:57.000 Who got Hochul put there? 0.59

00:32:00.000 She was a lieutenant governor under Cuomo, and then Cuomo resigned.

00:32:03.000 She took over.

00:32:03.000 So she's running to be elected.

00:32:06.000 She assumes the spot afterwards.

00:32:08.000 Didn't Cuomo want to run again or something?

00:32:10.000 I think so.

00:32:11.000 Yeah, he's like, I'm going to come back.

00:32:12.000 He's never going to leave.

00:32:12.000 I'm going to run into the ground this time.

00:32:14.000 Yeah, but I think this is the stuff I've been talking about.

00:32:18.000 And it's funny because, you know, I'll say something like, I think we're headed towards a civil war. 0.99

00:32:23.000 And four years ago, people said that was stupid. 1.00

00:32:25.000 And then I was a moron. 1.00

00:32:27.000 And then I was like, bro, I don't know. 0.99

00:32:28.000 I just read The Atlantic.

00:32:29.000 And they were like, we talked to security experts who said the United States is headed for civil war.

00:32:32.000 We're in a fifth generational world war right now. 0.71

00:32:34.000 World war? 0.57

00:32:35.000 Yes.

00:32:35.000 See, the other day you were arguing that it wasn't.

00:32:37.000 Now you're saying it's a world war.

00:32:38.000 No, I'm very convinced we're in a fifth-generational war, meaning it's a cyber war, a war of the mind and the spirit, and it is global.

00:32:45.000 It's corporations in all countries making you think it's from another country.

00:32:49.000 It's 14-year-olds in their parents' bedroom in the middle of wherever they live.

00:32:54.000 And it's everybody.

00:32:56.000 It's not everybody, but it is a lot of people vying for power digitally in the cyberspace.

00:33:03.000 How do you combat that?

00:33:04.000 A lot of people would.

00:33:05.000 But, you know, a lot of people would better spirit, better, better thoughts, ideas, communication

00:33:12.000 skills, better emotions, staying calm.

00:33:15.000 I don't know if there is a there is a way to solve it.

00:33:17.000 I think it may end up being some kind of natural selection phenomenon where those that have the perspicacity to see what's happening start preparing for the winter and those that don't will starve in the winter.

00:33:32.000 You know what I mean?

00:33:33.000 I think it's more of a common threat issue. 0.98

00:33:35.000 If you guys felt that you, like if an alien invasion happened, suddenly we'd stop all this bitch fighting, wouldn't we? 1.00

00:33:40.000 Right? 0.98

00:33:41.000 No, I don't think so either.

00:33:42.000 I think we'd give some people to the aliens.

00:33:43.000 We had a pandemic.

00:33:45.000 Yeah.

00:33:46.000 And that did not stop.

00:33:48.000 It did for about three weeks.

00:33:51.000 And then when we went back to the culture war, but it did.

00:33:54.000 I think a genuine— Yeah, if aliens came, you'd have the left being like, we need to accept diversity, and the right being like, they're literally invading, and they'd be like, you don't know that, they're bringing us technology.

00:34:04.000 What if the aliens are transphobic?

00:34:06.000 Maybe not.

00:34:07.000 Well, then it would be the right being like, hey, these guys aren't so bad.

00:34:09.000 They'd wait to see what CNN told them to feel about the aliens, and then that would be the cult mindset, and everyone else would be like, what are you doing?

00:34:16.000 The aliens would come down and go to the uniparty establishment elites, and they'd say, we're gonna give you immortality, cures for all your diseases, we're gonna give you levitation boots, tell your people to serve us, and they're gonna go, done!

00:34:29.000 Real talk though, what would you guys do if aliens came?

00:34:31.000 And were peaceful, and were like, we're here to coexist.

00:34:34.000 I don't think aliens that would come would be peaceful, ever.

00:34:37.000 Yeah, that doesn't seem like their vibe.

00:34:39.000 And in a situation that they were, and they came and they're like, we're here to help.

00:34:42.000 What could you do?

00:34:43.000 You do what you're doing and live your life and try.

00:34:45.000 Just coexist with them?

00:34:46.000 You wouldn't want to destroy them?

00:34:47.000 Just deport them?

00:34:48.000 What do you mean coexist with them?

00:34:49.000 Well, the aliens are like their motherships in the sky.

00:34:51.000 They're like, we're here.

00:34:52.000 We're going to stay here with you.

00:34:53.000 We want to stay here with you and help you and live amongst you.

00:34:55.000 And they're super peaceful.

00:34:56.000 They're beautiful.

00:34:57.000 Would you accept it?

00:34:58.000 And would you like, okay, now we're working together.

00:35:00.000 Do you think you could trust them?

00:35:01.000 If they were like, we're here to help you.

00:35:02.000 It's good.

00:35:03.000 If they're legitimately just peaceful and, and I, okay.

00:35:06.000 I don't care.

00:35:06.000 Same.

00:35:08.000 You'd be down to just live and coexist?

00:35:09.000 I mean, it's a mind, you know, it's a thought experiment.

00:35:13.000 If they're living peacefully and, like, bringing technology and, you know, whatever, it's just like, oh, wow.

00:35:17.000 Because, like, the American colonists, when they came in, the Native Americans, they were totally peaceful.

00:35:20.000 I mean, I don't know if they were totally peaceful, but they were very peaceful to a lot of them.

00:35:22.000 No, they weren't.

00:35:23.000 Thanks for helping us live throughout the winter, learning how to grow corn.

00:35:26.000 Bro, bro, stop.

00:35:27.000 Not all of them.

00:35:28.000 I'm not saying all of them.

00:35:29.000 No, the story you're talking about also does not end well.

00:35:31.000 Well, there were, like, Cortez in Mexico was very peaceful at first with the Aztecs.

00:35:36.000 Instead of the Aztecs, it was Cortez.

00:35:38.000 There's so much there, bro.

00:35:39.000 At first, and in the Incans, Pizarro, I think, went down with the Incans.

00:35:44.000 They loved him.

00:35:44.000 They accepted him.

00:35:45.000 He befriended the emperor, and then they captured him and executed him.

00:35:49.000 Basically, they took him prisoner.

00:35:50.000 Yeah, everybody just fights.

00:35:51.000 So the aliens came, and they were like, yeah, we can help you.

00:35:53.000 Put us in the White House, would you?

00:35:57.000 Here's the issue I have with that.

00:35:58.000 Like, you think they're going to be people.

00:36:01.000 Let's just say aliens show up, and there's a gigantic ship, and it's filled with water, and the aliens are gigantic fleshy sacks with no eyes or ears or mouths, and they consume by sucking water in like filters, but they also have big brains.

00:36:18.000 There's no communication with them!

00:36:20.000 Also, we need water, so if they suck up all the water, we're dead.

00:36:23.000 They don't care about this. 0.97

00:36:25.000 Humans are pretty xenophobic. 0.99

00:36:27.000 I think the humans would eradicate them on arrival. 1.00

00:36:29.000 Every species is xenophobic.

00:36:31.000 Well, this is why I said to you it would never happen that they'd be peaceful, because if they made the effort to come here, there'd be a reason for it, I think.

00:36:37.000 They'd start taking stuff.

00:36:38.000 Right.

00:36:38.000 My idea, I want to do a short film where an alien ship comes down over New York, and then everyone's like, wow, aliens!

00:36:44.000 And then, you know, they go up onto the skyscraper, and they look, and they're like, You know, come make contact!

00:36:51.000 And then all of a sudden, a gigantic laser beam just slices a building in half.

00:36:54.000 And then a tractor- and then it just falls, and a tractor beam grabs it and strips- rips all the copper and metal wiring out, and the rest just crumbles and falls to the ground, crushing people.

00:37:02.000 Then a bunch of ships come down and start mowing down buildings and ripping out the metals.

00:37:06.000 And then people are like, oh no, they're attacking us!

00:37:09.000 And then it switches to the perspective of the aliens, and it's just some fat lumberjack alien going, We got a big crop here, get the critters out of there, and then we'll just strip the copper out, bring it back to the ship.

00:37:19.000 Like, we don't go there and negotiate with squirrels.

00:37:22.000 You know, we don't go into the fields of wheat and negotiate with the field mice and the bunnies.

00:37:27.000 We don't care.

00:37:27.000 We just wipe them all out.

00:37:29.000 Look at the history of human beings, man.

00:37:30.000 Anytime a group of people has moved from one area to another, it always ends the same way.

00:37:35.000 Yeah, it's whoever has the power to sustain their group, their tribe.

00:37:39.000 100%.

00:37:40.000 So, you know, if that's life as we see it on Earth, and it's indicative of most life, like invasive life, invasive organisms take the opportunity to invade when they can, but natural predators curtail them, why would any alien race coming to Earth be any different?

00:37:55.000 It's possible they could be, we just have no reason to believe that based on life on Earth.

00:37:59.000 Yes, you hear that, aliens? 1.00

00:37:59.000 You would be fools to come here. 1.00

00:38:01.000 First, send us a message so that we can chat. 1.00

00:38:04.000 Consider the differences.

00:38:06.000 There's no intelligent life.

00:38:07.000 We've been able to, uh, technologically advanced intelligent species that we've been able to, to work with, but take a look at how we deal with whales. 0.99

00:38:15.000 Like whales are intelligent, very intelligent, and we just shoot them and kill them.

00:38:18.000 I just, you know, I read a story about whales that they're actually land mammals that went back into the ocean.

00:38:23.000 They evolved on land.

00:38:23.000 And then at some point called back in.

00:38:25.000 Uh-huh.

00:38:26.000 Freaking wild.

00:38:26.000 Yeah.

00:38:27.000 That's why they're mammals underwater. 0.94

00:38:28.000 That's my derail for the day.

00:38:29.000 All right, let's talk about where this could potentially go then.

00:38:32.000 Instead of the world falling apart, it could be gutted.

00:38:34.000 Trump reportedly plans to purge the deep state if he wins next election.

00:38:38.000 Will use executive order to strip employment protections.

00:38:41.000 That's about it.

00:38:42.000 They're saying up to 50,000 employees could be fired.

00:38:46.000 I'm voting for Trump.

00:38:46.000 That's it.

00:38:46.000 That's all.

00:38:48.000 You say that to me, good sir, and I'm like, okay, I'll vote for you.

00:38:51.000 There's a lot Trump could do wrong at this point.

00:38:53.000 I'd still vote for him.

00:38:53.000 Come on, baby.

00:38:54.000 Take me back.

00:38:55.000 I won't hit you again.

00:38:56.000 Come on.

00:38:56.000 No way.

00:38:57.000 He said he was going to do it the first time.

00:38:58.000 Not like this.

00:38:59.000 Trump actually did implement Executive Order Schedule F and then Biden reversed it.

00:39:04.000 So Trump began the process of trying to fire these guys.

00:39:07.000 These bureaucrat administrative state people have protections. 0.94

00:39:11.000 But I'll tell you this.

00:39:12.000 It doesn't matter.

00:39:13.000 Joe Biden is spitting on us and beating us over the head.

00:39:16.000 And my worst case scenario is like, this guy's promising to do better.

00:39:19.000 It's already bad.

00:39:20.000 Plus, under Trump, the economy was good.

00:39:22.000 I'll take it.

00:39:24.000 What else?

00:39:24.000 What about your DeSantis push?

00:39:26.000 See, that's what I was saying.

00:39:27.000 I said, I don't think DeSantis would fire everybody like Trump would.

00:39:30.000 And then all of a sudden we get a report that Trump wants to fire everybody.

00:39:32.000 There we go.

00:39:33.000 Do you think Trump's listening to you?

00:39:35.000 That's what happened.

00:39:36.000 I said, Trump, fire everybody!

00:39:37.000 And then Trump was like, I think I'm going to fire everybody.

00:39:39.000 What if DeSantis said he's going to fire everybody as well?

00:39:41.000 Would you vote for him over Trump?

00:39:43.000 Well, maybe.

00:39:44.000 The thing is, that is big.

00:39:47.000 And if DeSantis said he was going to go in and fire everybody the exact same way, that's a huge advantage.

00:39:54.000 I don't know, though.

00:39:55.000 I think Trump's got a bone to pick, right?

00:39:57.000 I think what really makes me believe Trump would do it is he wants revenge.

00:40:02.000 That's it.

00:40:02.000 DeSantis would probably try to negotiate and simmer things down and then get taken advantage of, because that's what Trump tried doing.

00:40:08.000 He's like, I'm going to drain the swamp.

00:40:09.000 He gets in and says, OK, OK, we'll bring Bolton in.

00:40:11.000 Fine. 0.68

00:40:12.000 Got knifed in the back for that one. 0.93

00:40:14.000 Now, I think Trump, they really, really went after him.

00:40:19.000 I think he wants revenge for Russiagate.

00:40:21.000 So it's that.

00:40:23.000 It is his anger over Russiagate and being impeached for Ukrainegate, where I think he's going to go and just be like, you're fired, you're fired, you're fired.

00:40:31.000 Ron DeSantis doesn't need revenge.

00:40:31.000 But then what after?

00:40:33.000 Like, if he fires everyone, is he going to be trusted?

00:40:36.000 Like, can we believe that he's going to install... Well, it kind of matters after that.

00:40:40.000 Well, that's what I was going to say.

00:40:41.000 Do you really want a guy who's angry and wants revenge as President of the United States?

00:40:45.000 I don't mind the anger, but like, if he cleans house in the first year, what happens after that?

00:40:49.000 How do we know that he's not like... We have less government.

00:40:50.000 Yeah, but like, how do we know he's not going to be advised, well, just let this guy come in and then it's kind of all going to go back.

00:40:56.000 Like, how do we know that he's going to be able to reinstall something?

00:40:59.000 Because I think rock bottom exists.

00:41:02.000 And I think what we've looked at with the Uniparty over the past several decades is so far down, we've hit mantle.

00:41:09.000 No, rock bottom would be, like, Fallout.

00:41:11.000 We don't, that's not... Fallout?

00:41:13.000 Like, the Fallout universe, the video game, we have this, like, post-nuclear apocalypse.

00:41:16.000 No, I'm talking about, with the corruption of our government, when Marjorie Taylor Greene told us that there's, like, two people sitting in the House, and then they're just like, yay, passed.

00:41:26.000 Next bill.

00:41:28.000 What was that?

00:41:29.000 Is that a yes?

00:41:30.000 Whatever, passed.

00:41:31.000 You know, that's what they do.

00:41:34.000 Congress doesn't even go in to vote!

00:41:36.000 It is so broken at this point.

00:41:38.000 Okay, you're fired.

00:41:39.000 Get rid of all of it.

00:41:40.000 And then it's like, but, but, but, but then we'll have no government.

00:41:43.000 I'm like, okay.

00:41:45.000 You have not, you've not made a negative point yet.

00:41:47.000 That's a net positive in my opinion, considering how bad it's been. 0.94

00:41:51.000 Now there's, there's the potential that Donald Trump appoints a bunch of authoritarian fascists. 0.75

00:41:57.000 It's not going to happen either.

00:41:58.000 Donald Trump was going to bring in people like Peter Navarro and Kash Patel, who we've already seen, who are actually pretty good.

00:42:03.000 And so it's like, okay, he guts—they're saying that they don't have to gut 50,000 people, just enough to where people stop being corrupt, because they know they'll get purged, it'll straighten things out.

00:42:14.000 Alright, well, I'll take whatever I can get.

00:42:15.000 The system's already broken, right?

00:42:17.000 Someone already stole my TV.

00:42:18.000 I don't got a TV anymore.

00:42:21.000 Donald Trump says we're gonna go in and we're gonna arrest all these people and get them out of there and we're gonna deal with the police department.

00:42:27.000 I'm like, oh, whatever.

00:42:28.000 My stuff's all gone.

00:42:29.000 Do it.

00:42:29.000 Do something.

00:42:30.000 I think the system's always been kind of janky, like put together by duct tape and string.

00:42:35.000 And then the American constitution was pretty cool.

00:42:38.000 And it makes it run like the engine is turning.

00:42:41.000 Everything's okay.

00:42:42.000 It's pumping out a lot of carbon, but you know, it's functioning, even though it's held together by duct tape.

00:42:47.000 And if you don't constantly like keep patching it up, it's just going to break and let it fall on the ground.

00:42:51.000 So we're in that stage of like, why is it shaking so fast?

00:42:53.000 I don't know.

00:42:54.000 I don't want to touch it.

00:42:54.000 I'm going to get killed if I get near it.

00:42:56.000 No, it's we got to do something about this.

00:42:58.000 You know, maybe the transmission is a little bit old on this old rickety country, and you gotta take it apart, clean it out, and reconstruct it, you know what I mean?

00:43:04.000 Just put it back together.

00:43:05.000 In order to do that, you gotta stop the machine for a little while, and that's not possible.

00:43:08.000 And Trump firing everybody would be fantastic, sir.

00:43:10.000 Isn't that what the woke think?

00:43:11.000 That this country needs to just be broken apart and start again?

00:43:14.000 No, they think you need to take the transmission out, shatter it to a million pieces, and then try and put some- And build a new one.

00:43:18.000 Right.

00:43:18.000 Or put nothing in place.

00:43:19.000 They think, this machine is producing carbon, it needs to be pulled out, and then we'll be great, and you're like, you need the machine.

00:43:26.000 So we have a machine that works.

00:43:28.000 Works really, really well.

00:43:28.000 It's a brilliant system of government.

00:43:30.000 We just need to get rid of the gunk that's stuck in it.

00:43:32.000 You know what I mean?

00:43:33.000 Just pull it out and throw it in the trash.

00:43:35.000 They want to just shatter the machine.

00:43:36.000 They have no replacement.

00:43:40.000 What I see is another Trump term brings this whole thing that we've been talking about today 10 levels further.

00:43:50.000 You're getting closer to civil war.

00:43:52.000 Much, much closer.

00:43:54.000 They've already written articles saying Ron DeSantis is worse than Trump.

00:43:58.000 Numerous- They will, of course they will.

00:43:59.000 So, if the argument is that Trump winning escalates it, well, they're claiming Ron DeSantis is worse than Trump, so wouldn't that escalate it more?

00:44:07.000 One article doesn't mean they all believe that.

00:44:08.000 It's not one article, it's numerous articles from numerous personalities all coming out in lockstep, knowing, over the past several months, they're saying Ron DeSantis is even worse than Trump, Ron DeSantis is, he's got the sly, slick tongue which makes him even more dangerous.

00:44:22.000 Like, they said Trump was worse than Hitler how many times?

00:44:26.000 If that's the escalation they have, Trump is bad.

00:44:28.000 They're trying to claim DeSantis is worse and they've been doing it for months.

00:44:32.000 If DeSantis wins, it's the same thing.

00:44:34.000 It's not changing.

00:44:36.000 We need to just have someone get in and fire these people and shut it down.

00:44:40.000 That's not good.

00:44:43.000 So what's the alternative?

00:44:44.000 Let the corrupt gut the machine and sink the ship.

00:44:47.000 How do you get there?

00:44:52.000 But perhaps, yes.

00:44:54.000 That's what they're trying to do.

00:44:54.000 Convention of states.

00:44:55.000 Amendment for term limits on the deep state.

00:44:58.000 I don't see how any of these things stop the escalation.

00:45:02.000 A convention of states would be the same thing as Trump getting elected.

00:45:05.000 If we could get the governors together and actually be able to convene on a regular basis, enough of us governance, we could take control and solve a lot of issues, I think.

00:45:14.000 I think it's mostly a cultural thing anyway.

00:45:16.000 It's like we all know, politics is downstream of culture.

00:45:18.000 It won't change until the culture changes.

00:45:20.000 The culture, it can't be changed because there's two distinct, fortified cultures.

00:45:25.000 Sure.

00:45:26.000 But it's not the first time in history that's been the case.

00:45:29.000 Well, I mean, typically throughout history, when you have two distinct worldviews, they don't just come together and shake hands.

00:45:35.000 Sure.

00:45:36.000 They wipe the other side out. 0.54

00:45:38.000 So right now we have one culture that thinks children should get sex change surgery, and one side that thinks they shouldn't.

00:45:43.000 I don't think there's a rectifying that.

00:45:45.000 There's not really a compromise there?

00:45:47.000 You have one side that thinks there should be abortion post-viability, elective abortion post-viability, and one side that doesn't.

00:45:54.000 And there's no compromise.

00:45:56.000 That's it.

00:45:57.000 There's none.

00:45:58.000 I don't see how you convince when right now you've got Twitter and Reddit saying you can't call people groomers and you've actually got people grooming children.

00:46:09.000 You've got a government administration official saying we should give sex change surgery to children.

00:46:14.000 Dude, but they call it affirmation.

00:46:15.000 Guys, you know I agree with you on all of this, right?

00:46:17.000 You know that.

00:46:19.000 My concern is, again, just speaking as an outsider, I don't comment on American politics in the sense that I don't live here, I don't pay taxes here, it's your country, you do with it what you want.

00:46:28.000 But the conversation I'm hearing here and with a lot of other people that I meet is like this conversation takes you to a point of no return.

00:46:37.000 But there's no alternative?

00:46:38.000 This is what I'm hearing, right?

00:46:40.000 This is why I've been saying I think civil war is inevitable because there is no circumstance. 0.94

00:46:44.000 Do you like the NHS?

00:46:45.000 You're from the UK, right?

00:46:47.000 Yeah.

00:46:47.000 It's called the NHS, right?

00:46:49.000 It is.

00:46:49.000 Do you like it?

00:46:51.000 It's a hard question to answer.

00:46:53.000 Some of it is good, some of it is terrible.

00:46:55.000 Do you prefer it?

00:46:57.000 To what?

00:46:57.000 To a private system like we have in the United States.

00:47:00.000 Well, I've never experienced the American system, so I don't really know.

00:47:02.000 Would you give it up?

00:47:04.000 The NHS?

00:47:05.000 Like, if someone came in and said, we want to abolish it outright, would you agree to that?

00:47:08.000 Depends what they put in place.

00:47:10.000 We don't have a plan, we just want to get rid of it.

00:47:12.000 No.

00:47:13.000 You wouldn't do that?

00:47:13.000 No, because I want to get rid of the plan.

00:47:14.000 Well, come on, compromise with me, though.

00:47:16.000 Like, right?

00:47:16.000 How about we get rid of it, and then we'll negotiate on what the...

00:47:20.000 No.

00:47:21.000 Let's talk about what you're proposing instead.

00:47:23.000 My proposal is to gut that system because it's evil and wrong.

00:47:26.000 And replace it with?

00:47:27.000 Well, we'll figure that out when it comes to it.

00:47:28.000 Not interested.

00:47:29.000 So, it doesn't matter what you're interested in because we're going to take it anyway, and if you don't listen, we're going to throw a brick through your window.

00:47:33.000 That's the point being made right now in the United States.

00:47:36.000 So, when someone comes out and says, we should be able to terminate a viable baby at eight months, if we want to or not, There's literally no compromise.

00:47:47.000 But that isn't the law, right?

00:47:48.000 So there is a compromise.

00:47:49.000 It is in, I think, seven states and D.C.

00:47:51.000 Yes.

00:47:52.000 And then you have, I think, was it, how many states have totally banned abortion?

00:47:55.000 Six?

00:47:56.000 Well, there's a lot of block to it because of the judicial challenges, but I think it's six in total.

00:48:01.000 So we're getting to that point.

00:48:03.000 There is, it's... No, but they're not trying to mandate that at the federal level.

00:48:07.000 You can live in a state where that isn't the case, right?

00:48:09.000 The Democrats are trying to mandate at the federal level that you can abort a baby post-viability up to nine months.

00:48:14.000 Yes.

00:48:14.000 That's what Roe v. Wade did for us.

00:48:16.000 It made it a federal issue.

00:48:17.000 But Roe v. Wade made it so you couldn't ban abortion pre-viability. 0.87

00:48:21.000 So it was initially a trimester standard changed to a viability standard.

00:48:26.000 Democrats tried codifying a bill that would allow for—I shouldn't say elective—abortion in the instance of health of the mother up to nine months.

00:48:34.000 But there's a trick there.

00:48:36.000 Abortion would mean—it said post—it would allow for abortion of a viable fetus in the instance of health of the mother. 0.69

00:48:44.000 And so the issue there is, if the fetus is viable, it can survive outside the mother, why kill it?

00:48:50.000 Why legalize the killing of it?

00:48:52.000 So they're like, ma'am, if you keep this baby for another week, you'll die. 1.00

00:48:56.000 So we're gonna kill the baby. 1.00

00:48:58.000 We could deliver it. 1.00

00:49:00.000 We could do a c-section. 1.00

00:49:01.000 Nah, we're gonna kill it. 0.97

00:49:02.000 So the question is, okay, maybe there's a moral argument to why they wanted to do that. 0.97

00:49:07.000 They don't have one.

00:49:07.000 They don't give me one.

00:49:08.000 I've asked numerous progressives.

00:49:10.000 They don't post it online why they want to do it. 0.98

00:49:11.000 And so the only thing I can say is they're trying to find a workaround to abort viable, like to kill viable babies.

00:49:18.000 But you have a system in place that prevents that from being the federal law, right?

00:49:24.000 The Democrats tried to make it federal law.

00:49:26.000 Of course, but you've got to be able to coexist with people with whom you disagree in the same society.

00:49:30.000 So the issue is, that I'm saying, the disagreements are untenable.

00:49:34.000 There's no compromise.

00:49:35.000 There's no circumstance where... Well, so the compromise was the overturning of Roe v. Wade.

00:49:41.000 Conservatives saying, how about your state can do what you want, our state can do what we want.

00:49:45.000 The problem there is that's one more domino being knocked over towards a civil war.

00:49:49.000 Because the scenario I've presented is what happens when a man and a woman hook up, woman gets pregnant, and then eight months later, she says, you know what?

00:49:56.000 This guy is not right for me.

00:49:57.000 I'm going to go terminate the baby.

00:49:59.000 In Texas, it would be illegal for her to do so. 0.93

00:50:02.000 And I think it may be Oklahoma where they have, or it might be like Idaho or something.

00:50:05.000 I'm not sure which one.

00:50:06.000 They have an abortion trafficking law, meaning that if you aid or traffic in abortion abortificiants or tools or helping someone get an abortion, it's a crime.

00:50:15.000 How will Texas deal with the fact that there's a man saying, she kidnapped my baby at eight months gestation who's viable and could survive?

00:50:22.000 If we just deliver instead of killing it, I'll take it.

00:50:24.000 She can leave.

00:50:25.000 And she goes, no, that would tie me to you. 1.00

00:50:26.000 I'm going to go kill it instead.

00:50:28.000 What happens when she flees to Colorado for an eight-month elective abortion, which she can get, and the father in Texas says, Texas government, please help. 0.99

00:50:36.000 She's kidnapped my son. 0.86

00:50:39.000 I don't see a solution there.

00:50:41.000 I mean, the way I see it is, trying to explain it to pro-choice people would be, imagine a woman kidnapped a baby the day it was born and then went to a state where they were going to let her chop its head off.

00:50:53.000 They'd be like, but it's a baby.

00:50:54.000 And it's like, right, right.

00:50:55.000 The conservative pro-life people view it the exact same way when it's in the womb at eight months versus when it's out of the womb at eight months.

00:51:02.000 So what do you do when there's no federal intervention and the states are forced to decide how do we save that child from execution?

00:51:10.000 Does Texas invade Colorado?

00:51:12.000 Or do they tell the guy, sorry, she escaped the state?

00:51:15.000 No, I think what might happen is Texas would demand Colorado extradite.

00:51:19.000 Colorado would refuse.

00:51:21.000 Then Texas would say, we're not going to allow people to cross. 0.88

00:51:25.000 We're setting up a checkpoint now to make sure that people can't do this ever again.

00:51:28.000 And then you'd see state borders popping up.

00:51:30.000 And then you'd probably see vigilantism.

00:51:32.000 The dad who doesn't want his son killed would probably get a posse together.

00:51:35.000 Who knows?

00:51:35.000 That's the escalation without federal intervention.

00:51:37.000 And there isn't any anymore.

00:51:39.000 So the compromise was, we don't like abortion, but we'll let you do it. 1.00

00:51:42.000 But now you have people fleeing to go do it, and it's going to create more tension.

00:51:46.000 That makes sense.

00:51:47.000 My point is, you're going to have to work this out, man.

00:51:50.000 You just are.

00:51:51.000 That's the situation you're in.

00:51:52.000 Or, you see, a lot of people talk about civil war who've never lived through civil war.

00:51:57.000 You don't want it.

00:51:57.000 Trust me.

00:51:58.000 And that's why the veterans are the ones who are like, please stop.

00:52:01.000 Right.

00:52:01.000 We've seen conflict.

00:52:03.000 And so that's what my take on, certainly in the UK, is like, yes, the woke have gone crazy.

00:52:09.000 The progressives have gone crazy.

00:52:11.000 And some of the response on the right bothers me too.

00:52:14.000 There's got to be a way through.

00:52:15.000 Okay.

00:52:17.000 Compromise.

00:52:19.000 What level of child sex change are you okay with?

00:52:25.000 I mean, you're picking on a very specific issue.

00:52:28.000 We can talk about it for half an hour.

00:52:29.000 There's probably some kind of compromise.

00:52:32.000 For example, I employ several people who have gender dysphoria, right?

00:52:35.000 If they want to transition at the age of 16 with parental consent, Do I? 0.84

00:52:43.000 I don't even know.

00:52:44.000 16, 17, 18, where should that line be?

00:52:46.000 Right?

00:52:46.000 Well, we're talking about, you know, seven-year-olds.

00:52:49.000 No.

00:52:50.000 Well, children can't consent. 0.82

00:52:52.000 Well, then you're transphobic because this is what they're doing. 0.96

00:52:54.000 This is what they're doing in the United States.

00:52:55.000 I know.

00:52:55.000 And the government came out and told parents to do it, and Biden did the same thing.

00:52:59.000 Well, see, here's the thing, right?

00:53:00.000 We had a guy on from the Tavistock Clinic in the UK on my show on trigonometry, who was basically a whistleblower saying what was happening in this clinic.

00:53:07.000 Well, guess what?

00:53:09.000 The arguments that people were making about that, exposing what was happening, now the situation is being wrote back.

00:53:15.000 Laws are being changed.

00:53:16.000 People are actually getting to a healthier position on that issue.

00:53:19.000 And I think we're making progress, right?

00:53:21.000 So I do think shining a light on some of this stuff will help over time.

00:53:26.000 But if you want an instant solution, yeah, you're not going to get it.

00:53:29.000 So, I'm not saying there's an instant solution, I'm saying you go to someone and tell them something very simple like, hey, I don't think children can consent to this stuff, I don't think they know, and they call you a transphobic and try to get you banned.

00:53:41.000 I've been there, trust me.

00:53:42.000 It was Mario Lopez who said three-year-olds don't know if they're transgender and he was forced to issue an apology.

00:53:49.000 On this front, it has only been expanding in the direction towards child sex changes.

00:53:54.000 Not only.

00:53:54.000 Not in the UK.

00:53:56.000 Not in the UK.

00:53:57.000 We're making progress, right?

00:53:58.000 But this is what I'm saying.

00:54:00.000 You're not going to get straight to where you want to go right away.

00:54:03.000 But we're seeing people winning cases in court, saying that, for example, the belief, I don't know if you followed in my four starter case, It was a case in the UK where basically she was, I think, fired or denied a promotion because she said that trans women aren't women or something like that.

00:54:20.000 And the court actually found in favor of her and it's now a protected philosophical belief or whatever.

00:54:24.000 So you can make progress by what we're doing here, which is having a conversation, exposing certain things to the light.

00:54:31.000 And that is the way you do it.

00:54:33.000 Unless you want civil war.

00:54:34.000 Unless you want people to die in the hundreds of thousands.

00:54:37.000 No, of course not.

00:54:38.000 I don't think you do.

00:54:39.000 That's why I'm saying the focus should be on how do you get to a better place.

00:54:42.000 I was gonna ask, with Boris Johnson resigning, how are the other political parties in the UK reacting to that?

00:54:50.000 It's very hard for me to imagine, you know, We don't, if a president resigned in the U.S.

00:54:55.000 and then whatever party was in power got to just pick a new one.

00:54:57.000 It's hard for me to imagine Americans going through that system.

00:55:01.000 Well wouldn't the vice president become?

00:55:02.000 Vice president would become.

00:55:03.000 But for you, Boris Johnson stepped down.

00:55:05.000 Yeah.

00:55:06.000 And you guys just get to pick.

00:55:07.000 Well we're a parliamentary system.

00:55:09.000 We don't elect a prime minister.

00:55:10.000 We elect the president.

00:55:11.000 But it's interesting.

00:55:12.000 We have a problem in the UK now because what happened was Boris Johnson resigns.

00:55:16.000 The way that the elections happen is the MPs, the members of Parliament, pick the two top nominees and then members of the party pick from out of those two.

00:55:26.000 And what they did of course is they had a great candidate who was super popular with the membership.

00:55:30.000 Penny Moorda?

00:55:31.000 No, no, no.

00:55:32.000 She's very unpopular with the membership.

00:55:34.000 Kemi Badenoch.

00:55:36.000 She is incredible on all this stuff that we're talking about.

00:55:39.000 The trans stuff, the cultural stuff, brilliant.

00:55:41.000 And so, of course, they made sure that she didn't... Yeah, she never pulled even in the top four. 0.99

00:55:44.000 She never got into the final, even though with the membership, she would have been 100% the winner and she would have been prime minister.

00:55:50.000 They forced her not.

00:55:52.000 So we've got big problems, Tim.

00:55:53.000 I'm not disagreeing with you.

00:55:54.000 To go back to your point about, you know, having a discussion and compromising.

00:55:59.000 We've, since the start of the show, politely invited people on the left to come and hang out.

00:56:03.000 That's the vibe.

00:56:04.000 We've all been through this.

00:56:04.000 I get it.

00:56:05.000 Right.

00:56:05.000 They don't.

00:56:06.000 And the other issue is we've also sat back and let them literally murder people without accountability.

00:56:13.000 Figuratively murdered people.

00:56:15.000 It's not legal murder.

00:56:16.000 No.

00:56:16.000 Literally murder people.

00:56:18.000 What are you talking about?

00:56:18.000 Like when Aaron Danielson was shot twice in the chest.

00:56:21.000 Oh, I thought you were talking about abortion.

00:56:22.000 Or when... Don't make assumptions.

00:56:24.000 Well, they didn't... When... That wasn't legal.

00:56:25.000 They just got released.

00:56:27.000 What do you mean?

00:56:27.000 What?

00:56:28.000 Like, they would catch and release these people.

00:56:30.000 Right, I'm saying there's been murders of that accountability.

00:56:32.000 There's been violence of that accountability.

00:56:34.000 There was $2 billion in capped damage in the Summer of Love, the riots.

00:56:38.000 There was the 529 insurrection.

00:56:40.000 And then, you know, with all due respect, you're here saying, well, we need to have a conversation and compromise.

00:56:45.000 I'm like, bro.

00:56:45.000 I never used the word compromise, by the way.

00:56:47.000 Okay, sorry.

00:56:48.000 No, it's fine.

00:56:48.000 But we gotta have a conversation, right?

00:56:49.000 100%.

00:56:50.000 It's like, okay, well, dude.

00:56:52.000 I'm sitting here minding my own business.

00:56:54.000 I get out of the cities.

00:56:55.000 I say, please just leave me alone over and over and over again.

00:56:58.000 And then I'm told, well, if you don't talk to these people and what's to talk about at this point, I retreated and they're still burning down, throwing bricks through windows and trying to assassinate people.

00:57:09.000 I agree.

00:57:09.000 That's completely wrong.

00:57:10.000 But there's no conversation with people who are defending.

00:57:13.000 You don't have to have the conversation with them.

00:57:15.000 Here's what I'm saying.

00:57:16.000 Right.

00:57:17.000 The society is made up of about 7% of people who are progressive, crazy, blah blah blah, right? 0.93

00:57:22.000 And there's a small bunch of people on the other side, on the other extreme, who are crazy equally. 0.77

00:57:27.000 Everybody else, actually, is in the middle.

00:57:30.000 Now, it depends country by country what that middle looks like.

00:57:32.000 I don't know, you tell me what that, how big that is in the US.

00:57:35.000 In the UK, I'd reckon that's 80, 85%?

00:57:39.000 Those people are the vast, overwhelming, silent majority, right? 0.88

00:57:43.000 And I think they're coming over to our side with every single one of these instances that you're talking about.

00:57:49.000 And to me, I don't want to talk to the crazies on either side.

00:57:53.000 I'm interested how do we get the sensible people in the middle to see sense, to stop legislating for all this crap that we've got going on, and actually have policies that make sense for the majority of the people in this country. 0.61

00:58:05.000 Because the majority of people in any country are not crazy.

00:58:09.000 And this is why we may be seeing a red tsunami in November that Latinos, for instance, in the Rio Grande Valley, they're all, but this is the election of Trump. 0.71

00:58:19.000 This is the election of Trump supporters and Trump Republicans, his endorsements.

00:58:24.000 Do you know what his ratio is on endorsements?

00:58:26.000 Trump's like 110 or something.

00:58:28.000 Yeah, it's some crazy number.

00:58:30.000 I don't know off the top of my head.

00:58:31.000 So what's happened is Donald Trump is a moderate.

00:58:34.000 He's just bombastic.

00:58:36.000 His policies were that of like a late 90s, 2000s New York Democrat.

00:58:41.000 Now it's considered conservative.

00:58:43.000 He unfurled a rainbow flag at the, I think it was the RNC or something.

00:58:47.000 He's the first president in U.S.

00:58:48.000 history to support gay marriage before being president.

00:58:50.000 Even Hillary Clinton didn't support it in 2016.

00:58:53.000 So you get this moderate to be president, and he woke up a bunch of regular people.

00:58:58.000 The neocons hated it.

00:58:59.000 He was moderate in his policies in most of them.

00:59:01.000 He wasn't moderate in his behavior.

00:59:03.000 And that's what triggers them.

00:59:04.000 You know that, right?

00:59:05.000 Exactly.

00:59:06.000 No.

00:59:06.000 And so people who are based on, whose decisions are making is based on emotion,

00:59:09.000 they couldn't stand what Trump was.

00:59:11.000 But the people who are flocking to him, they're flocking to him because he's saying

00:59:14.000 he's gonna nuke the government, he's gonna fire all these people,

00:59:16.000 he's gonna purge the system and people are sick of the broken system.

00:59:19.000 And what's fascinating is the Democratic Party is becoming wealthier and more white. 0.68

00:59:24.000 And they are, the second most pressing issue for Democrats is political extremism.

00:59:29.000 That's why Democrats are screaming abortion and January 6th. 1.00

00:59:33.000 But regular people don't care about that stuff. 0.94

00:59:35.000 So this is why I think the Democrats providing funding to Trump endorsed candidates is a ridiculous mistake.

00:59:43.000 And what's gonna end up happening is.

00:59:45.000 When Donald Trump invariably wins.

00:59:48.000 You think he's gonna win?

00:59:50.000 Well, we're an eternity away, but I don't see how the Democrats could beat Trump at this point.

00:59:55.000 So look, we got two years.

00:59:58.000 Joe Biden's aggregate approval record low has gone lower than Trump's lowest.

01:00:04.000 So right now, objectively, Biden is hated more by America than Trump ever was.

01:00:10.000 You put Trump up against that and he's gonna be like, hey, I got mean tweets.

01:00:14.000 Best numbers of our lives.

01:00:15.000 That's what Jim Cramer said, remember that?

01:00:16.000 $1.84 for gasoline, remember that?

01:00:19.000 It was like $2.13 national average, but we saw it go down to like $1.50 in some areas.

01:00:23.000 Yeah, people at this point are going to be like, don't take a ham sandwich over the Democrats.

01:00:26.000 But what do you think happens with the wealthy elites in the Democratic Party who know they're facing probably criminal investigation and prosecution like Hunter Biden?

01:00:34.000 He currently is.

01:00:34.000 Well, this was my point.

01:00:36.000 I'm worried, first of all, that if Trump does get elected, he's not going to get a lot done because they just won't let him, right?

01:00:41.000 That's what happened with the first term.

01:00:43.000 Well, that's my point.

01:00:44.000 So why would it be easier with the second term, post-January 6th, where they think this was... Unleashed.

01:00:48.000 Right.

01:00:49.000 So that's the thing.

01:00:50.000 But look, come back to my point, which I think is actually... You tell me how true it is, because I don't know that much about the United States.

01:00:56.000 I don't live here, right?

01:00:57.000 But I do believe there's a sensible majority of people in the middle who are there to be won over by either side, either side, as long as they start talking sense on a lot of these issues.

01:01:08.000 I think.

01:01:08.000 And in the UK, that's what happened.

01:01:10.000 That's what happened.

01:01:11.000 It depends on the data that you look at.

01:01:13.000 Right now, I think the latest data I saw in factioning, it's a bell curve.

01:01:18.000 So it's actually not 80% are in the middle.

01:01:21.000 It's 30, you know, 20 to 30 percent are in the actual middle, and then you have left-leaning, right-leaning, then you have left-right, then you have hard-left, hard-right.

01:01:31.000 What we saw with Pew was that the sideliners, the regular people, are actually, you know, I think it was like 15 to 20 percent, and they're center-right. 0.89

01:01:40.000 So like, it's obvious when you look at what the left is, that regular people would be center-right relative to them, because you need a baseline for what the left is, and clearly the regular people aren't there.

01:01:53.000 But I think these people for the most part still aren't wanting to vote outside of the Democrats or vote for anything.

01:02:00.000 We saw this in 2018 when I think it was 31 moderate Democrats got elected in Trump districts because they promised to actually entertain real issues and then they just went for impeachment and they just became culture warriors and it was like abandoning regular people.

01:02:14.000 But I don't know if these people... I'll put it this way.

01:02:20.000 I don't know.

01:02:21.000 I don't know how big the middle is, if there even is one.

01:02:23.000 What we saw from Twitter trends was the middle was flattened out and spread far left.

01:02:28.000 What we saw from Pew Research was that the middle has been flattened and now spread.

01:02:33.000 The middle of the left is far left and the middle of the right is a little bit more right than it used to be, but it's a valley.

01:02:40.000 In the middle now.

01:02:41.000 Well, I mean on Twitter.

01:02:42.000 No, no, I'm talking about Pew Research.

01:02:43.000 Yeah, yeah, I hear you.

01:02:44.000 It's a valley, not a belcher.

01:02:45.000 Yeah, I hear you.

01:02:46.000 Maybe this is the way in which our countries are different, but I do think that one of the reasons people on the center-left would never vote Republican in the conception of it as it has been is because of the way that Trump was.

01:02:59.000 They may well vote for someone who's a little bit more, not sensible necessarily in terms of policy, but sensible in terms of the way that they comport themselves.

01:03:07.000 Because you know that triggers the hell out of them.

01:03:08.000 Well, this is why maybe DeSantis.

01:03:10.000 That's my point.

01:03:12.000 We need to fire the administrative state.

01:03:15.000 It is the biggest threat to this country, in my opinion.

01:03:19.000 The swamp does not convey the slime and putrescence of the corruption in this country.

01:03:25.000 I don't think you can fire them, though.

01:03:27.000 I agree that it's a problem, for sure, but if you go up and you're like, I want all 10,000 of you to be fired tomorrow, they're like, well, we control all the spy networks and all the sub-military machines Like, you really want us to, you're really going to try and get us, dude?

01:03:43.000 You?

01:03:43.000 One guy?

01:03:43.000 We're not talking about that.

01:03:44.000 We're talking about civil servants.

01:03:46.000 We're talking about people who work in administrative offices.

01:03:48.000 They run the CIA.

01:03:49.000 Those are the people that run the shadow government, basically.

01:03:52.000 Trump wants to appoint a new head of the CIA and FBI that's different from the general civil servants, the two million of which operate in all facets of government.

01:04:02.000 And yes, Trump's attempt was to schedule F them so they would be fired.

01:04:05.000 So my point is, rather than be like, you're all done tomorrow, be like, you've got term limits now.

01:04:10.000 You've got two more years to finish out your term.

01:04:12.000 Well, the idea would be to fire the people who are redundant and replace them.

01:04:17.000 Wait, if they're redundant, you wouldn't replace them?

01:04:19.000 Oh, right.

01:04:19.000 Fire the people who are unnecessary.

01:04:22.000 I'm open to that, but we should cycle them out in two years, rather than come in and be like, tomorrow's... I don't think he would really, all in one day, be like, everyone go, but I think it would be in quick succession.

01:04:32.000 That's why I gave, like I was saying, if he can do it in one, his first year, let's say Trump gets reelected, all of 2024, he's cleaning house, you know?

01:04:39.000 It's not like...

01:04:41.000 It's all over.

01:04:41.000 One day, it's not like when they replace the White House, but over the course of 12 months, he cleans out everyone who needs to be gone.

01:04:48.000 My question is, who is filling in the ranks?

01:04:51.000 Even if he downsizes the government, who is coming in to replace them?

01:04:54.000 You might not need to replace them, as Ian pointed out, if they're redundant or unnecessary.

01:04:58.000 And then would we pay, as taxpayers, just pay their retirement packages?

01:05:03.000 Just basically give them a bailout and send them on their way?

01:05:06.000 No, I think they should get unemployment and go find another job.

01:05:08.000 Unemployment?

01:05:09.000 Yeah, like anybody else in this country.

01:05:10.000 I am concerned with what you're saying, Hannah-Claire, about who's coming in next because, and I don't want to be too hard on Trump, but one of the things that really bothered me about Trump was the way he handled COVID and how he just handed power to Fauci and was like, this unelected body can now control the whims of the people and make decisions.

01:05:26.000 I'm like, I didn't elect Fauci.

01:05:27.000 I don't want Fauci in this medical industry deciding what I have to do with my daily life.

01:05:33.000 Medical tyranny is as dangerous as banking tyranny or as martial tyranny in a lot of ways. 0.60

01:05:37.000 What bothers me more about it is who is attracted to that kind of bureaucratic federal position.

01:05:42.000 I mean in some ways you're not running for office, you're getting appointed and maybe you lead a department and you oversee the budget and you get to sign the paperwork that can really make a tremendous difference in people's lives.

01:05:53.000 I mean I just...

01:05:55.000 I have such skepticism for the way government works.

01:05:58.000 It's not that I don't think we should continue to fight to make the system work or fix it where it's wrong.

01:06:03.000 But like, I just don't know who is applying for these jobs, even if Trump is in office.

01:06:09.000 That kind of person or historically those people are, I don't know.

01:06:14.000 Do you know about the war game they did, the Boston Globe reported on in 2020?

01:06:19.000 It was like John Podesta, Hillary Clinton campaign, some neocons.

01:06:22.000 Wow.

01:06:22.000 They effectively played what was D&D. This is really funny.

01:06:25.000 We should totally do this, by the way.

01:06:26.000 They did a Dungeons and Dragons on the 2020 election. And so they were like,

01:06:33.000 okay, John Podesta, you're going to play Trump's campaign and so and so, you're this campaign.

01:06:37.000 And then they took turns deciding what they would do, rolling die to see what would happen.

01:06:41.000 Yeah, it was crazy. I think that's what they did with, yeah, like it was like D&D.

01:06:44.000 Wow.

01:06:44.000 Yeah, we should totally do it and film it. It'd be so fun.

01:06:46.000 Awesome.

01:06:47.000 And I believe it was, in this war game, I can't remember who it was, it might have been Podesta.

01:06:52.000 They said that the West Coast should secede from the Union if Donald Trump wins another term.

01:06:58.000 Should or would?

01:06:59.000 Should.

01:07:00.000 They were trying to encourage Washington, Oregon and California to secede.

01:07:04.000 So I think about stuff like that and I'm like, why even literally entertain that?

01:07:09.000 They thought that would happen?

01:07:10.000 Is that what they thought would happen?

01:07:11.000 So it was like, I don't know exactly who was the one who suggested it.

01:07:14.000 I don't think it was Podesta, but someone in the game suggested secession.

01:07:18.000 So, you know, what I'm looking at is, I've been reading a lot about the First Civil War.

01:07:25.000 For instance, Texas apparently joined the Confederacy out of geographic necessity.

01:07:31.000 They needed a trade partner and they were blocked off from the rest of the unions.

01:07:33.000 They're like, we don't know what else we would do, I guess.

01:07:36.000 Maryland wanted to join.

01:07:38.000 The sentiment in Maryland was to join the South, but They just couldn't do it for a lot of reasons.

01:07:45.000 One was that the union went in and arrested 31 reps in the state who supported secession, and the rest were like, well, do whatever you say, man.

01:07:53.000 And then Lincoln suspended Hapia's corpus in the corridor from D.C. 0.79

01:07:56.000 through Maryland up to Pennsylvania so they could arrest whoever they wanted without charge or trial.

01:08:00.000 Really crazy stuff.

01:08:02.000 People don't understand the depth of what happened with the Civil War.

01:08:05.000 They assume it was like all these states got together, high-fived each other, and said, we're not the Confederacy.

01:08:09.000 When what actually happened was a small handful seceded, and that was the end of it.

01:08:13.000 Then Lincoln gets elected.

01:08:14.000 Then Lincoln gets inaugurated.

01:08:15.000 He was elected.

01:08:15.000 His election resulted in this.

01:08:17.000 He immediately says, session is illegitimate, and we're coming for you.

01:08:21.000 The battle at Fort Sumter starts.

01:08:23.000 Then several other states were like, yo, this is getting crazy.

01:08:26.000 We're with the other guys on this one. 0.99

01:08:28.000 You're a tyrant. 0.98

01:08:30.000 So, it could be that Texas bans abortion and everyone says, well, this is crazy. 0.98

01:08:35.000 Colorado has unrestricted.

01:08:37.000 That scenario I pointed out earlier occurs.

01:08:39.000 And everyone's like, it's just two states.

01:08:40.000 It's just two states.

01:08:42.000 And then another state says we're cutting off all trade line supplies and contracting.

01:08:47.000 Imagine this.

01:08:48.000 In Texas, they say, any business that operates in Texas is no longer allowed to operate out of Colorado.

01:08:53.000 We will not allow transactions to the state, to any banking institution in the state, because they kidnapped children and murdered them. 0.63

01:08:59.000 Things like that might start happening.

01:09:01.000 Then you might get, you know, the federal government coming in and pressuring Texas and Texas saying, you're pressing up on our laws.

01:09:08.000 Then all of a sudden, Oklahoma is like, yo, this is crazy.

01:09:10.000 What are you doing in Texas?

01:09:11.000 And then goes to provide aid to Texas.

01:09:14.000 One by one, you'll see dominoes falling down.

01:09:15.000 No, I hear what you're saying and this is why we're having this conversation because what I'm saying is people in positions like yours and mine who are having conversations about these issues, I think the way we've got to look at it is what is the outcome that we're trying to achieve or the outcome that we're at least trying to prevent, right?

01:09:29.000 Now, if we accept that civil war is bad, do we accept that?

01:09:32.000 It's terrible.

01:09:33.000 Worse than that.

01:09:34.000 You don't understand.

01:09:34.000 One of the bloodiest wars in history.

01:09:36.000 Of course.

01:09:36.000 And it would be way worse now than it has been at any time in history before.

01:09:42.000 I'll just stress this, man.

01:09:44.000 It is, especially with Antifa, these people have never seen grievous injury. 0.52

01:09:49.000 I will say trigger warning for people listening, because I know there are people who have dealt with real trauma, and I mean like a real trigger, not some stupid, you know, oh, it's offensive word, no.

01:10:00.000 I've seen people whose legs have been turned into ground shuck, and the feeling you get when you see that kind of stuff, or the feeling you get when I saw, the first time I saw a dead person being carted away from me in a conflict, It's a feeling that I'd never felt before.

01:10:15.000 And I was, what was I, 27 years old.

01:10:17.000 And it was weird.

01:10:19.000 27 years old, and I was like, this is an emotion I've never experienced.

01:10:22.000 Now, I imagine back in the day, it's an emotion people experienced quite a bit, because people died, you know, in front of them, and there was war, and we grew up in this safety bubble.

01:10:31.000 So I tell you, when these Antifa people actually see it in front of them, when they start to see that, it's going to change, it's going to twist their brains in ways they did not expect, the feeling they get.

01:10:40.000 But it may make many of them more radical.

01:10:42.000 A hundred percent.

01:10:42.000 So that's what I'm saying is we've got to work back from that.

01:10:46.000 Civil War, bad.

01:10:47.000 Very, very bad.

01:10:48.000 Right?

01:10:48.000 So how do you avoid it?

01:10:49.000 Well, the way you avoid it is you find a democratic solution by targeting the people in the middle who are actually quite fed up. 0.94

01:10:56.000 They're quite fed up of all this crap that's going on. 0.94

01:10:59.000 They're quite afraid. 0.99

01:11:00.000 They're worried about speaking their mind.

01:11:01.000 And we give them permission to do that.

01:11:03.000 We make it okay.

01:11:04.000 We challenge some of the legal changes that are being made.

01:11:07.000 This is the process we're starting very slowly.

01:11:10.000 Some people would disagree with me, even in the UK where I come from, right?

01:11:13.000 But we are making some slow progress and I think that's the way you do it.

01:11:18.000 You target that middle, you bring them on board, and then you avoid the terrible thing that we'd all like to avoid.

01:11:24.000 I do agree.

01:11:25.000 I agree with the strategy and it, you know, some people say it's pessimistic when I'm like, I think it may be inevitable or the dominoes are falling over and that seems to be the outcome or We're in some kind of civil war, as it is.

01:11:36.000 Fifth generational warfare.

01:11:38.000 But, it may be pessimistic, but at TimCast.com we're certainly trying to do that, right?

01:11:43.000 Yeah.

01:11:43.000 So, when we were starting, when we were expanding the company, I took a look at a bunch of what other companies had done.

01:11:49.000 And you look at every single commentary and podcasting network, and what do they do?

01:11:54.000 They load up on commentators and get a big roster of commentators who all have similar opinions.

01:11:59.000 That's not what we did, because my goal isn't just to make money, my goal is to affect change.

01:12:02.000 So the first thing we did, I think the first show we launched was Tales from the Inverted World, which is paranormal true crime mystery with Shane Cashman.

01:12:08.000 Because I said, what we want to do is we want to create a space where people who are hearing nothing but this stuff can kind of chill out with fun entertainment.

01:12:18.000 So we're not just creating a hyper-polarized commentary space.

01:12:21.000 We launched Cask Castle, comedy and silliness.

01:12:25.000 We launched Pop Culture Crisis, conversations about celebrities and gossip, so that it's an eclectic space.

01:12:31.000 So people who are worried about this stuff that we're talking about, They'll have a space to actually talk about normal things.

01:12:36.000 And the culture we want to build excludes the woke insanity in Antifa.

01:12:40.000 They won't be a part of the world that we're trying to create.

01:12:43.000 So what I'm hoping to do is... We're running ads right now.

01:12:46.000 We just launched one simple ad so far as a trial run for Tales from the Inverted World.

01:12:51.000 We saw tremendous, tremendous results among 18 to 24 year old men and 65 and up women.

01:12:59.000 So 18 to 24 year old men, we get 18 to 54 year old men on this show really, really well with the spike being I think 25 to 34.

01:13:09.000 18 to 24 is low, so getting a big response on Tales from the Inverted World is huge on 65 year old women.

01:13:14.000 Not to mention, women across the board really responded well in the ads. 1.00

01:13:18.000 The reason this is good is, I want people to come to Timcast.

01:13:22.000 I want them to see these stories and be pulled away from Disney and Netflix and Hulu and the weird woke stuff.

01:13:27.000 And then just watch Pop Culture Crisis and Cast Castle and the other shows we're going to launch, comedy specials.

01:13:32.000 I don't want to bring them into a space that is dominated by conservatives or even libertarians screaming the end is nigh.

01:13:40.000 It is bad enough that that's what we're essentially doing, so we want to create a space that slowly starts carving out Something that's more relaxing.

01:13:47.000 I love it, man.

01:13:48.000 I think that's great and we're doing that the same thing with Trigonometry.

01:13:51.000 We've got big plans because culture is at the core of this, right?

01:13:54.000 Comedy, humor, music, entertainment.

01:13:57.000 That's the way you do it.

01:13:58.000 You can scream about politics all day long and you can change some things but culture, that's where you get masses of people who are not political but who do, you know, they feel like they can't say what they think at work or they've got some kind of other issue going on and they don't want to be a sort of culture warrior or in this space.

01:14:15.000 I think comedy is a big part of it.

01:14:16.000 That's why we do our raw shows and we make fun of everybody left and right because that's how I think you get people to that from that middle to that middle.

01:14:24.000 And I think it's really great that you're doing that.

01:14:26.000 We're going to try that.

01:14:27.000 I mean, you look at, you know, Daily Wire, obviously very different to what we do, but, you know, they're making movies.

01:14:33.000 Yep.

01:14:33.000 And they get it.

01:14:35.000 This is how you do it, man.

01:14:36.000 The Daily Wire is not making conservative movies.

01:14:38.000 Right.

01:14:39.000 Exactly.

01:14:39.000 I don't want to watch a conservative movie.

01:14:42.000 I just want to watch a movie and relax and have a good time.

01:14:45.000 That's what I want.

01:14:46.000 And I don't want to hear about 72 genders while I'm at it. 1.00

01:14:48.000 Just leave that out.

01:14:49.000 Show me the movie.

01:14:50.000 I'll enjoy it.

01:14:51.000 And I think that's the way, man.

01:14:52.000 So I'm really glad we had this conversation, actually, because I think this is the way we get to a healthier place.

01:14:58.000 By trying to get to a healthier place.

01:14:59.000 Because I hear you. 0.99

01:15:00.000 I wake up sometimes and I'm like, holy shit, this is going down the toilet fast. 0.99

01:15:04.000 Yeah. 0.98

01:15:05.000 But the only thing you and I can do, all of us in this room can do, is try to make it a little bit better one step at a time.

01:15:10.000 The way I see it is, build it an arc.

01:15:13.000 And maybe there won't be a great flood, but we'll have this big, really cool community space that people can come hang out in.

01:15:19.000 If the end result is the world falls apart and everyone's fighting, well, TimCast.com will still be producing a plethora of content from a variety of subjects.

01:15:28.000 We are going to be launching more political shows of slightly different political persuasions, but still similarly in the libertarian kind of space.

01:15:36.000 But I don't want to just do a bunch of shows about politics.

01:15:40.000 Like, we have a show we talk about politics.

01:15:42.000 We want to do other stuff.

01:15:43.000 We want people to be able to just get a... I want people to say, Disney+, get woke, go broke, I don't like this, I'm gonna give my money to TimCast.com instead.

01:15:52.000 100% man.

01:15:53.000 Now, The Daily Wire is light years ahead of us, for sure.

01:15:57.000 They have like nearly a million subs, we're nowhere near that.

01:16:00.000 And they've got multiple commentators.

01:16:02.000 They've got, I think, five movies now.

01:16:05.000 Some shows are coming out.

01:16:06.000 They announced Chip Chilla, their kids' show.

01:16:08.000 I'm deeply jealous of everything that they're doing, but, you know, we're working on ours and we focus on what we're doing.

01:16:15.000 Daily Wire is going to get their way before us, for sure.

01:16:17.000 But I'm just saying this.

01:16:19.000 There are people who become members because they believe in the mission, but that's not enough.

01:16:24.000 What we need to do is just have the better show.

01:16:26.000 We need to get a show, we need to get to the point where we have a comedy special, and then people are like, they go into work one day, and they're like, oh, did you watch that new show?

01:16:35.000 Have you seen that show, Cast Castle?

01:16:36.000 I've been watching this hilarious show on TimCast.com.

01:16:39.000 I'm like, no, what is that?

01:16:39.000 It's like, oh, it's like a show, you know, it's comedy, it's funny.

01:16:43.000 That's what we want to get to.

01:16:44.000 So then people are like, eh, Disney Plus is boring.

01:16:47.000 That's the way.

01:16:47.000 That is 100% the way.

01:16:49.000 And you know what happened to the mainstream of the comedy industry in the UK, right?

01:16:53.000 What happened was they had these great shows that everybody watched 15 years ago, Mock the Week, Live at the Apollo.

01:16:58.000 These were shows that everybody watched, everybody wanted to be on as a comic.

01:17:02.000 And within about 10-15 years, they've really ruined them.

01:17:06.000 I think from what I hear down the grapevine, they're gonna be not renewed.

01:17:10.000 And it's happened to other shows as well.

01:17:12.000 And here's how you do it.

01:17:14.000 It's very simple, right?

01:17:15.000 You stop employing people based on merit.

01:17:17.000 You start employing people based on their... 0.53

01:17:19.000 Various characteristics.

01:17:20.000 And then you make bad stuff.

01:17:21.000 And then you make bad content.

01:17:22.000 And then people come along and go, hey, well, we've got the internet.

01:17:25.000 We've got the technology.

01:17:26.000 We've got the talent, the skills, the comedic experience, whatever.

01:17:30.000 We'll write our own thing.

01:17:30.000 We'll make our own thing.

01:17:31.000 That's the solution here, man.

01:17:32.000 What happened with Doctor Who?

01:17:34.000 I remember when they brought in the woman to be the first female doctor.

01:17:39.000 And then what I had heard was that the show basically became Magic School Bus.

01:17:42.000 So, like, instead of an episode where they go to a... The one episode I really remember fondly was when the robots had killed everybody, and they had the smiles.

01:17:50.000 Do you watch Doctor Who?

01:17:50.000 No, I don't.

01:17:51.000 There's an episode where they go to a planet, and then it was... Peter Capaldi, I think, was the doctor at the time, the older guy.

01:17:57.000 Is that his name?

01:17:58.000 I don't know.

01:17:58.000 But the robots all had smiley faces, and the robots killed anybody who was sad to stop sadness from spreading.

01:18:05.000 And that was like an interesting plot.

01:18:07.000 And then what I heard when they brought in the woman, the plot lines were like going to India to talk about partition and like colonialism.

01:18:16.000 And it was like, okay, you know, I want to see a dragon fight a time wizard, not learn a history lesson.

01:18:22.000 Right.

01:18:22.000 If you want to make magic school.

01:18:24.000 And so I don't know exactly what happened with it, but I heard like it wasn't doing well.

01:18:27.000 People didn't want to watch it.

01:18:28.000 Well, I'll tell you how bad it got.

01:18:29.000 So I used to write on the equivalent of like Jimmy Kimmel or whatever.

01:18:33.000 It was called the Mash Report in the UK.

01:18:36.000 And I would watch the program only when I was involved in it.

01:18:41.000 And I would only tend to watch like five minutes because the rest of it was just this like preaching.

01:18:47.000 No jokes, just preaching.

01:18:49.000 There were some good bits.

01:18:50.000 There were a few comics that were good.

01:18:53.000 So to me, when I see that, I think that's great.

01:18:56.000 Let them destroy this thing that they spent decades building and let us come in and build something better.

01:19:02.000 That's the way, man.

01:19:03.000 That's what I do.

01:19:04.000 I only listen when Tim reads my articles.

01:19:06.000 Exactly.

01:19:07.000 No, I'm just kidding.

01:19:08.000 But the youngest generation of, I think, Americans, I don't know if the poll was done globally, they said if they could only have one social media platform, they'd have YouTube.

01:19:17.000 Of course.

01:19:17.000 And YouTube, I mean, you are probably a great example of this, has so many different creators.

01:19:24.000 You know, if you are interested in something, any niche thing out there, you can find it.

01:19:28.000 I mean, TikTok has really evolved into this too, but this poll was done, I think, in 2017, and they all pick YouTube.

01:19:35.000 They watch YouTube more than they watch television.

01:19:38.000 And again, that is specific power to creators to be able to reach an audience that is really interested in what they have.

01:19:44.000 Real quick, there's something interesting too that I want to mention that we talked about earlier today, because we've heavily focused on treating Timcast like a subscription service.

01:19:53.000 The goal is just to make content that's sustainable, and some people have pointed out we could put our episodes on other platforms.

01:20:02.000 Instead of requiring a membership, you could just buy the episode for a couple bucks or something, and I was like, that's actually a really good idea.

01:20:07.000 So there's still a way for some of our content to be on these big platforms in a way that they're supported.

01:20:13.000 But I will I will add to that idea too because people mentioned it like hey, can you make the Tim cast uncensored segments?

01:20:19.000 You know available for one-off purchase and it's like we don't know we don't have the tech on down the website We could build that and we can't do it on YouTube because YouTube would ban us So what we're trying to do with YouTube is effectively a be a pipeline where?

01:20:33.000 Someone on YouTube will see us they can come to the website and get unfiltered uncensored content Bingo.

01:20:38.000 And this is what I think is happening in the media online space.

01:20:42.000 It's kind of like when the printing press was invented.

01:20:44.000 Before that, the church had complete control over literature, which was the Bible basically, right?

01:20:49.000 Then the printing press comes along, and suddenly you've got the ability to make a newspaper.

01:20:53.000 And a lot of the people who now own a newspaper are not people who had any control over that space before, right?

01:20:59.000 So you've got essentially the same thing happening now, where people like us are creating new platforms now.

01:21:06.000 You're going to get your own platform where you've got the entertainment, you've got the comedy, you've got the movies, you've got the political analysis.

01:21:12.000 And I think a lot of the companies that are going to get built in the next five years, they're going to be the next big things that actually end up being some of the biggest contributors to the space.

01:21:22.000 And you're part of it.

01:21:23.000 What's fascinating is the amount of money that Netflix spends on making a show makes me just laugh.

01:21:30.000 I know.

01:21:30.000 Because you can make good shows really, really cheaply.

01:21:34.000 Right.

01:21:34.000 And so I'm not going to claim that the shows we have on TimCats.com are the greatest shows of all time.

01:21:40.000 No, they're better than that, and everybody should sign up.

01:21:44.000 I think we start, it's a little rough, and we're trying to just earn our place into doing better and better and better and figuring out what works.

01:21:53.000 And, um, it's, it's, it's relatively cheap.

01:21:56.000 It's expensive.

01:21:57.000 Don't get me wrong.

01:21:58.000 But compared to what Amazon and Netflix and Hulu pay for shows, I'm just like, we can sustain a full show with only a few thousand paying members.

01:22:08.000 Whereas Netflix has like, what, a ridiculous, like tens of millions or something like that.

01:22:12.000 And then their shows, they're like, it costs us millions to make.

01:22:14.000 And then we canceled it.

01:22:15.000 I'm like, we could make a show.

01:22:18.000 And we could make some show, some podcasts.

01:22:21.000 We could make a podcast that only has 1,000 paying members for the podcast, and the podcast can exist forever.

01:22:27.000 Because that 1,000 members, I mean, that's $10,000 a month.

01:22:31.000 Then we pay the podcast hosts, and they're good.

01:22:33.000 There you go.

01:22:34.000 We made the investment.

01:22:35.000 Your show's forever.

01:22:36.000 So if there are people who like the show, and there are people who like the job, and that's the best the show can do, why cancel it?

01:22:41.000 And then I look at these other networks and they cancel it, and I'm like, I don't know.

01:22:44.000 If the fans sustain the show, the show can be forever.

01:22:47.000 This is what's interesting about the way the model used to be that TV shows on cable needed a certain number of viewers, otherwise they were canceled.

01:22:54.000 And the fans would be like, no, don't cancel.

01:22:56.000 They'd say, sorry, 300,000 fans isn't enough because the ad dollars doesn't pay for this show.

01:23:01.000 If those 300,000 fans paid $10 a month for the show, the show would be making a massive profit.

01:23:07.000 And then they'd be able to make the show even better.

01:23:09.000 I think this is why The Daily Wire made the big shift, and they're focusing on VOD content, because they were like, you don't need that many people to support you to make a massive platform and be successful.

01:23:20.000 So that's what I saw too.

01:23:21.000 And I said, the ad model is less effective than the passion model.

01:23:26.000 So let's just make content that works.

01:23:28.000 I thought of it like this.

01:23:29.000 I was like, you know, we've been treating it like a bakery trying to give away a million free cakes and then telling a business, but we'll put your name on the cake and pay for us instead of just being like, hey, the cake costs five bucks.

01:23:40.000 You know, if you want it, buy it.

01:23:42.000 So we're doing a two-pronged approach for sure.

01:23:45.000 We want to make free content.

01:23:46.000 Pop Culture Crisis.

01:23:47.000 You can watch it.

01:23:47.000 There's Super Chats.

01:23:48.000 TimCast IRL.

01:23:49.000 It's free.

01:23:49.000 You can watch it.

01:23:49.000 There's Super Chats.

01:23:50.000 And then we direct you to the premium model, you know, stuff where it's like, hey, if you like it, buy it.

01:23:55.000 Yeah, it's awesome.

01:23:55.000 And this is how you change the culture.

01:23:57.000 And that's why I'm going to make you an optimist by the end of this conversation.

01:24:00.000 This is how you change the culture and then things will change.

01:24:03.000 Well, so, I guess my point is, I'm not entirely convinced that what's to come is going to be, when I say civil war, I don't know if it's going to be the way people, the way it used to be.

01:24:15.000 Like, a fifth generational civil war is people posting memes online.

01:24:19.000 This could be it, right?

01:24:21.000 The fact that we do shows, we argue our points, and other people go on TV and lie and try to manipulate, that could be the extent to which war exists internally in the modern era.

01:24:31.000 Because violence actually turns people off.

01:24:33.000 When Black Lives Matter, after George Floyd was killed, Black Lives Matter net support hit like 50-something percent.

01:24:39.000 It was crazy!

01:24:41.000 Like, that's nuts!

01:24:42.000 And then they rioted, and it tanked to like 9% net support.

01:24:45.000 They lost all of their PR gains.

01:24:47.000 Violence did not work.

01:24:48.000 And so I'm like, you know what does work is false flags, like framing your enemy, or you just make something more fun, more entertaining, and something people want to be a part of.

01:24:58.000 So it could be that the conflict we're in, this is the peak culmination of it, and it doesn't get to the point where it's, you know, people shooting each other or something.

01:25:05.000 Yeah, even I'm not that optimistic, but I hear what you're saying, yeah.

01:25:09.000 Well, I'm saying maybe, I don't know.

01:25:10.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:25:10.000 What I do know is that we're in a conflict, and you can call it whatever you want.

01:25:14.000 Well, and there are huge shifts.

01:25:15.000 I mean, Netflix, it lost like 1.3 million US and Canadian subscribers recently.

01:25:21.000 People don't like whatever system is out there.

01:25:23.000 And the Daily Wire is at a million.

01:25:25.000 Yeah, well, this is what I've been thinking a lot about, right, is what has the internet enabled?

01:25:31.000 And I think what it has done is it's, you know how TV is by definition fake?

01:25:36.000 Do you know what I mean?

01:25:37.000 Like people are sitting in a fake place where they don't hang out and it's fake in every way, right?

01:25:42.000 And what happens with podcasting and things like that is we kind of weaponized authenticity.

01:25:47.000 Like people watching the show know that I'm saying what I'm saying because that's what I believe and you're saying what you're saying because that's what you believe.

01:25:52.000 And they may dislike what I'm saying or they may dislike what you're saying but they at least know it's authentic.

01:25:57.000 So the internet has enabled that authenticity in a way that wasn't possible before and that's what's making the difference and that's why people will happily pay a subscription fee for something otherwise they would never pay for.

01:26:06.000 It's like reality TV was just literally not reality?

01:26:09.000 A hundred percent, right?

01:26:11.000 And this is reality TV because if the cameras were off we'd still be having this conversation.

01:26:15.000 I mean we were having part of this conversation before the cameras turned on.

01:26:17.000 That's my point.

01:26:18.000 And then usually it's really funny because when we're getting ready we're doing pre-production for the show We have conversations that I'm like, we probably could have recorded and just used because it was really good.

01:26:27.000 We never let our guests talk about anything before we do the interview because that's where the interesting stuff always gets said if we're not recording.

01:26:34.000 Do you know what I mean?

01:26:34.000 Well for us, it's mostly current events.

01:26:38.000 So we just have the news stories lined up and then we're like, we can talk about whatever.

01:26:42.000 For depending on the guests, one thing we try to do is like, if the guest has a specialty or a certain thing they really want to hit on, then we'll do news.

01:26:50.000 And then at nine, we'll get half an hour in of just like, which reminds me, you have a book you do.

01:26:54.000 I want to know about this.

01:26:55.000 What, what's the premise?

01:26:57.000 Well, I talk about growing up in the Soviet Union, I talk about my grandmother being born in the Gulag, I talk about my grandfather being a slave during those times and I'm trying to, well not trying to, I'm contrasting many of the things that I see in modern society in the West now with the things that my family went through and I'm saying Like I've been saying to you, and you agree with me, this is not a good path to go down.

01:27:20.000 Right?

01:27:20.000 And most people don't understand that the path we're going down has... You know, all Eastern Europeans I talk to in the West, they all say the same thing.

01:27:27.000 Like, we've seen this before.

01:27:29.000 So I'll give you one example.

01:27:30.000 Do you guys know where political correctness comes from?

01:27:32.000 Where does it come from?

01:27:33.000 The Soviet Union.

01:27:34.000 So, in the Soviet Union, they would say to you, Comrade, what you're saying is factually correct, but it's politically incorrect.

01:27:41.000 Right?

01:27:41.000 And what that meant was, you were not following the party line.

01:27:46.000 Does that sound unfamiliar?

01:27:47.000 That's exactly what's happening.

01:27:48.000 Well, that's exactly what's happening.

01:27:49.000 AOC said that, remember?

01:27:51.000 Exactly.

01:27:52.000 Morally correct.

01:27:53.000 Right.

01:27:53.000 And what it meant was you were factually incorrect, but you were morally correct or vice versa.

01:27:59.000 And so political correctness is simply a way of getting people to do what you want.

01:28:03.000 That's what it is.

01:28:04.000 And so when I see the shutting down of freedom of conversation, the shutting down of freedom of research, the inability of scientists to say their opinion about a medical treatment or whatever, That worries me not because I'm just like I am in favor of that treatment or against that treatment.

01:28:18.000 I'm just worried because to me that's like an alarm bell.

01:28:22.000 It's an alarm bell.

01:28:23.000 And the same thing, you know, my grandfather, I talk about this in the book, he was a Soviet dissident, you could say.

01:28:29.000 He said in the 1980s that the Soviet Union was wrong to invade Afghanistan.

01:28:34.000 Immediately lost his job, ostracized by his friends, many of whom, Tim, you'll like this, by the way, said, no, no, we agree with you, we just can't do it in public.

01:28:42.000 Did you see the cartoon where the guy's burning the woman at the stake?

01:28:45.000 Yeah.

01:28:46.000 And he says, by the way, I agree with everything you said.

01:28:48.000 Exactly.

01:28:49.000 How did your grandfather speak out publicly in the 80s about that?

01:28:51.000 He didn't speak out publicly.

01:28:52.000 He said in a private conversation, someone reported him, familiar too, right?

01:28:57.000 And then that's what happened to him.

01:28:58.000 Well, I'll tell you a story.

01:29:00.000 When I was staying in Ukraine, I was staying at my friend's house.

01:29:03.000 And it was old communist block housing, right?

01:29:05.000 It's like reappropriated as like apartments.

01:29:06.000 And she said, during the Soviet Union, the neighbors next door were feuding with the people who lived here.

01:29:14.000 They were arguing over something nonsense.

01:29:16.000 So the people who lived here called the party and said, my neighbor has disparaged the party.

01:29:20.000 The next day, their apartment was empty and they were gone.

01:29:22.000 Right.

01:29:22.000 But that's what people used to do.

01:29:23.000 That's what people used to do, man.

01:29:25.000 And this is one, you know, the last part of the book, my warning to people, and this is why I'm trying to hit that middleman, because you're not going to get the crazies on either side.

01:29:33.000 You're not going to get to them.

01:29:34.000 You're not going to persuade them. 1.00

01:29:35.000 They're crazy. 0.99

01:29:35.000 That's the point, right? 0.99

01:29:37.000 But the vast majority of people you can persuade, and that's what, you know, I'm trying to tell them the story.

01:29:42.000 So my grandmother, born in a gulag, and I don't know if you know this, but once you were released from the gulag, You wouldn't be allowed to live in any major city in the country.

01:29:52.000 You had to live in a small town in the countryside.

01:29:56.000 And the only people that lived in these Siberian towns or the miles out of the way of anything were former guards from the gulags and former prisoners.

01:30:04.000 Wow!

01:30:05.000 Right next to each other.

01:30:06.000 Yeah.

01:30:06.000 Right next to each other.

01:30:08.000 In 1953, I think, Stalin dies.

01:30:11.000 And Nikita Khrushchev comes in and he denounces everything that had happened.

01:30:15.000 He says Stalin was wrong, the purges were wrong, this was not communism, blah blah blah blah blah.

01:30:20.000 And he reveals many of the crimes that Stalin and his people did. 0.90

01:30:24.000 And you know what happened in that small town where my grandma lived?

01:30:28.000 Dozens of those former Gulag guards shot themselves.

01:30:33.000 Whoa.

01:30:34.000 Because they were like, holy, what was I part of?

01:30:37.000 Yeah.

01:30:38.000 Right.

01:30:38.000 And that's all I'm saying to people in the West.

01:30:40.000 Don't be a useful idiot. 1.00

01:30:41.000 Do not go along with things that you do not believe because you're afraid. 1.00

01:30:45.000 Do not go along with things that you do not believe because you're going to lose your job.

01:30:49.000 Do not go along with things and don't demonize people.

01:30:52.000 You're not a good... I don't care if you put hashtag be kind before you said kill yourself. 0.98

01:30:56.000 It doesn't make you a good person.

01:30:57.000 I'm sure some of those guards shot themselves because they were scared of what other people would do to them when they found out what they were doing.

01:31:02.000 I don't think they were, man, because nothing happened to them.

01:31:04.000 They just realized what they'd been a part of.

01:31:06.000 They had a wake-up call.

01:31:07.000 And this is what I'm saying to people who are going along with, whether it's cancel culture or demonizing people or attacking people online.

01:31:13.000 Like, we have a friend in London, we had him on the show, James Caverini.

01:31:17.000 He runs the oldest family-run Italian restaurant in London.

01:31:20.000 He did a fundraiser for Ukrainian orphans with J.K.

01:31:22.000 Rowling.

01:31:24.000 Next day, bunch of one-star reviews on TripAdvisor.

01:31:27.000 The day after, I'm not saying it's connected, but this is what happened.

01:31:30.000 Next day, someone smashes in the windows of his restaurant.

01:31:32.000 Wow.

01:31:33.000 You're not a good person.

01:31:35.000 You're not standing up for anyone. 0.85

01:31:36.000 If that's what you're doing, you're a bad person, and you're going along with an ideology that is making you a terrible person.

01:31:43.000 Don't do it.

01:31:44.000 That's what I'm trying to say to people.

01:31:47.000 I've had so many conversations with these Antiva types, A lot of them just don't care. 1.00

01:31:51.000 They're not trying to be good people.

01:31:52.000 They think it's funny.

01:31:53.000 That's why I'm saying, I don't care about them.

01:31:55.000 You're never going to reach those people.

01:31:57.000 But there's people... When they break the law, they need to go to prison.

01:32:00.000 They need to serve their time.

01:32:01.000 And that's one of the problems we have in our society.

01:32:03.000 The law is not uniformly enforced.

01:32:04.000 But this also means that we need to be less naive when it comes to the people who seek to exploit our kindness.

01:32:12.000 Agreed.

01:32:12.000 There was a woman that I knew who worked for a major publication, and she was an activist.

01:32:18.000 We were hanging out at another, you know, prominent activist place, and she told me that she just likes watching the world burn.

01:32:25.000 That she doesn't really care.

01:32:26.000 She said she's a total nihilist, and she was like, but don't you just want to see it shaken up and burn?

01:32:31.000 And I was like, no!

01:32:32.000 Because I was saying, like, I understand the nihilism.

01:32:35.000 I feel a bit nihilistic myself.

01:32:37.000 But, you know, the idea that nothing matters means that you need to make things matter.

01:32:41.000 You need to make things good and better and important.

01:32:44.000 And her attitude was, no, if it doesn't matter, just burn it and watch.

01:32:47.000 It's fun.

01:32:47.000 Yeah, there are people like that.

01:32:49.000 And that's why I'm saying you're not going to reach a person like that because by virtue of the psychology, trauma, experience, whatever you want to call it.

01:32:55.000 I understand.

01:32:56.000 My point is you are competing against them.

01:32:59.000 No, you're not.

01:33:00.000 Because we're competing for the middle.

01:33:02.000 That's what I'm saying.

01:33:02.000 They're going to the middle.

01:33:03.000 Yeah, and who do you think they're going to choose?

01:33:05.000 A sensible person who says, actually, maybe just because your three-year-old said the other gender.

01:33:10.000 Yeah, but you misunderstand.

01:33:13.000 What they're doing is, they're taking a clip of you, Quoting Stalin and claiming you said it.

01:33:19.000 And then the person in the middle goes, I heard that guy Konstantin say he wanted to lock people up who disagreed with him.

01:33:24.000 Like that was freaky.

01:33:25.000 And then you're like, I didn't say that.

01:33:26.000 That's a fake clip.

01:33:27.000 And they go, bro, I watched the video.

01:33:29.000 You're lying.

01:33:30.000 They told me you were going to lie to me.

01:33:31.000 But the secret weapon in the culture war, this fifth generational world war, is the authenticity.

01:33:37.000 Because like, the news media will shove Antifa's message, or whatever this message is, this cult message, down people's throat.

01:33:43.000 But it's like, look at this cardboard box that looks like a house.

01:33:46.000 It's a house.

01:33:46.000 Look how beautiful this house is.

01:33:47.000 And people are like, I know it's not, but they're telling me it is.

01:33:51.000 Looks cool.

01:33:52.000 I'll go along with it.

01:33:53.000 I'm not gonna say anything.

01:33:54.000 But then they hear us, and they're like, oh, these people are real.

01:33:57.000 And then it's in dispute.

01:33:58.000 You cannot dispute, in disputation.

01:34:01.000 Look at Rogan.

01:34:03.000 CNN went after him.

01:34:05.000 Do you think most people believe Rogan, or do you think they believe CNN?

01:34:09.000 CNN's viewers are in the gutter, but their viewers believed him.

01:34:12.000 Sure.

01:34:12.000 CNN viewers believed him.

01:34:13.000 Right.

01:34:14.000 But who does the sensible middle believe?

01:34:17.000 That's what we're talking about.

01:34:18.000 Well, this is fascinating, too.

01:34:19.000 I have friends who are relatively woke.

01:34:22.000 These are people I knew from a long time ago in Chicago.

01:34:25.000 And then the last time I went on Rogan, You look at their profiles, and it's BLM, it's the Black Square, it's Pride Flags, and they're hitting me up saying, like, that was awesome, you're so great, like, it's good to hear from you.

01:34:35.000 And then I'm just like, it's weird to me because, like, all of the stuff you believe in, but you heard me and you understand that, like, I wonder if that's gonna change your mind.

01:34:43.000 But at the very least, they listen to Rogan, they trust Rogan, they believe.

01:34:47.000 That's why I'm optimistic somewhat, because do you know how many people I get that I used to gig with on the comedy circuit?

01:34:53.000 Who hated me, who complained about me, who criticized me when I turned down this contract, blah blah blah.

01:34:59.000 Do you know how many of them hit me up now going, oh, I love your show?

01:35:03.000 All of them.

01:35:03.000 That's what's happening, man.

01:35:05.000 Not all of them, but a lot of them, right?

01:35:08.000 So I think that there is a sensible majority to be won over.

01:35:11.000 That's what I believe, and that's what I'm trying to do.

01:35:13.000 We're gonna go to superchats and I really I want to give a quick shout out to Adrienne Curry because we're big fans and she said reality TV was reality until 2003 then it died.

01:35:22.000 Reality wasn't good enough for them.

01:35:25.000 Well, I think the reality was they tried reality TV.

01:35:28.000 They had a positive response and then said hey.

01:35:30.000 It's just cheaper to fake this stuff.

01:35:32.000 So I explain this to people about YouTube.

01:35:34.000 You'd see these videos on YouTube where like a guy saves a homeless person and it's like he brings them food and they hug and it's like, oh, and he gets 10 million views.

01:35:42.000 Now you have the story of that woman.

01:35:44.000 She's got a year in jail, a year in prison because she faked, the homeless man gave me $20, his last 20 so I could eat and it was a scam and they raised money.

01:35:52.000 What happens is these YouTubers were like, somebody made a real video where they're like, I'm gonna go help homeless people.

01:35:58.000 And then they filmed it and put it up and it was okay.

01:36:00.000 And then someone else said, why bother trying to find a homeless person when I can pay a guy 20 bucks to pretend to be homeless and get it done in an hour.

01:36:06.000 So they just started faking it because it was faster and easier.

01:36:09.000 But let's read some super chats, everybody!

01:36:12.000 All right.

01:36:12.000 If you haven't already, would you kindly smash that like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends, and head over to TimCast.com, become a member to support us for everything I explained a moment ago.

01:36:23.000 We've got Tales from the Inverted World.

01:36:26.000 It's a fascinating show to put on on like a Sunday night with the lights turned low, and you're getting ready for bed, and you just let it play, and it's a spooky story, and it's fun stuff.

01:36:33.000 And then we got Pop Culture Crisis.

01:36:35.000 We got Cast Castle and more to come.

01:36:36.000 Chicken City.

01:36:38.000 I'm really excited we're going to have our rooster, Roberto Jr., on a Times Square billboard.

01:36:42.000 Yeah, he deserves it.

01:36:43.000 He definitely does.

01:36:44.000 He's a superstar.

01:36:45.000 He's Employee of the Month every month.

01:36:47.000 Great father.

01:36:48.000 Employee of the Month, absolutely.

01:36:49.000 All right, here we go. 0.98

01:36:51.000 The Chronicles of Chris says, LOL, the thumbnail looks like Kissin told a stupid joke that Tim disliked.

01:36:57.000 Also, did you read the capitalism article I told you about in the HOTEP episode?

01:37:00.000 I did not.

01:37:01.000 I did not.

01:37:02.000 I'll have to look into it.

01:37:04.000 And remind me of which capitalism article that was.

01:37:08.000 Raymond G. Maga Stanley Jr.

01:37:10.000 says, Tim, so today I directly sent handcuffs and heat-resistant gloves to AOC's DC headquarters with a nice gift note for each.

01:37:17.000 I wonder if the feds will visit me.

01:37:19.000 Oh, that'll be interesting, I suppose.

01:37:22.000 AOC advocated for using heat-resistant gloves in protests, so, you know.

01:37:26.000 Grofty says love you all buck buck buck in the ad we have with Roberto jr.

01:37:29.000 on it it just very quickly says buck buck buck down like the side like in really small and then it's two ads actually so the one on the right side is the cartoon version of Roberto and Roberto jr.

01:37:39.000 and the anime fighting it's really funny I'm really excited for that all right Were you always a big chicken fan?

01:37:46.000 Sorry.

01:37:46.000 Oh, yeah.

01:37:46.000 Chickens are awesome.

01:37:47.000 When I lived in Miami, I had chickens.

01:37:49.000 And then the neighbor dog kept killing them.

01:37:52.000 And I was getting really angry because it was like digging in.

01:37:54.000 And I'm like, what the... Like, we had this closed off area with chickens in it.

01:37:57.000 And they were... I was pissed.

01:37:59.000 I was really mad.

01:37:59.000 And we confronted the neighbor, and then he bought us new chickens.

01:38:01.000 And the dog kept trying to break in.

01:38:03.000 So then, you know, we didn't know it was a dog at first.

01:38:05.000 We put up a trap, caught the dog, and then returned the dog to people.

01:38:07.000 I was like, look at your dog!

01:38:09.000 Yeah.

01:38:10.000 Anyway, we got like... I just remember my first couple days working here, the chickens were at the front of the house at the time.

01:38:14.000 They didn't have their like sweet estate that they have now.

01:38:18.000 And you would be like, and this is Sarah.

01:38:20.000 And this is like, you knew all of their names.

01:38:22.000 And I'm like, I don't know.

01:38:23.000 Okay, they all sort of look brown.

01:38:25.000 And that one's got... Oh, I know their name.

01:38:27.000 So the originals all have good names.

01:38:29.000 And then some of their kids have names like Roberto Jr.

01:38:32.000 is like the best.

01:38:33.000 And there's like Maggie and Bernie and Isaac.

01:38:36.000 But most of the new chickens we haven't named because there's just too many.

01:38:39.000 There's so many of them!

01:38:40.000 Yeah, there's like 30 or 40.

01:38:41.000 My family used to have turkeys on a farm.

01:38:44.000 Oh, turkeys! 0.78

01:38:44.000 And they'd give them names. 0.78

01:38:45.000 And we had two really big ones that were very aggressive and would always fight each other.

01:38:49.000 And my family, having the F-type sense of humor that they do, they named one Adolph and the other one Joseph.

01:38:55.000 Brilliant.

01:38:56.000 All right, Dalen Smythe says, Thank you for restoring a bit of my faith in some form.

01:39:00.000 I don't believe in a god as a person, but as a construct, the system, everything.

01:39:04.000 Think multiverse, different types of infinity and dimensions beyond perception.

01:39:08.000 And that's in line with what people refer to as Einsteinian god.

01:39:11.000 The idea that there is a greater power of some sort, but it's not a person.

01:39:16.000 And that's more so where I fall into thinking.

01:39:19.000 I don't know what you, Ian, or you, Konstantin, think.

01:39:21.000 Well, we were having this exact conversation before we started, right?

01:39:24.000 Yeah.

01:39:24.000 And I think Lydia asked me if I believe in God, and I said, like, no.

01:39:27.000 And then I was like, hold on, no, no, no, that's not what I mean.

01:39:29.000 Like, I don't believe in a dude in the sky, but I do believe in something above us all that connects us as human beings, for sure.

01:39:36.000 Yeah.

01:39:37.000 Ghost Crusader says, Ian, I missed you yesterday and I love your shirt.

01:39:40.000 That is Stolas.

01:39:41.000 He teaches astronomy and the knowledge of poisonous plants, herbs, and precious stones.

01:39:45.000 Is this Stolas?

01:39:47.000 It's an owl.

01:39:49.000 Let me see if you guys can see that.

01:39:50.000 Is that in the shot right there?

01:39:51.000 Beautiful.

01:39:52.000 Seems like a rad dude.

01:39:53.000 Somebody sent this to me.

01:39:54.000 Whoever that is, thank you so much.

01:39:56.000 And there's gems on it as well.

01:39:57.000 Is that why you like it?

01:39:58.000 The gems?

01:39:59.000 That's the main reason.

01:40:02.000 All right.

01:40:03.000 Friedrich Borman says Konstantin has two good videos with Michael Svetov on SV TV channel.

01:40:08.000 I recommend them for Russian speakers.

01:40:10.000 And if you can translate them, read subtitles for English speakers as well.

01:40:14.000 What is that about?

01:40:15.000 So Michael Svetov is a Russian YouTuber and I think politician and he interviewed me a couple of times about how I see what's happening in Russia, Ukraine.

01:40:22.000 Wow.

01:40:22.000 Yeah.

01:40:23.000 And he's in Russia.

01:40:24.000 He's not in Russia.

01:40:25.000 I was going to say like, not anymore.

01:40:28.000 No, no, no, no.

01:40:28.000 But he's a cool guy.

01:40:30.000 And we had a couple of great conversations for sure.

01:40:32.000 Yeah.

01:40:32.000 Like, so just really quickly on that.

01:40:34.000 I mean, what's the risk if you were in Russia and you were critical of what they're doing?

01:40:38.000 Are they going to come after you?

01:40:39.000 Are they gonna try and shut you down?

01:40:40.000 So, do you know what happens to protesters in Russia?

01:40:43.000 Gulag?

01:40:44.000 No gulag anymore.

01:40:46.000 So, when Russia first invaded Ukraine, people went out in groups to protest.

01:40:50.000 That was illegal.

01:40:51.000 They got arrested, locked up, etc.

01:40:53.000 Then they went out in what they call single pickets.

01:40:55.000 You go out on your own with a sign saying, no war.

01:40:58.000 Arrested.

01:40:59.000 Arrested.

01:41:00.000 Then, people started going out with no sign, just holding hands up in the air, pretending to have a sign.

01:41:07.000 They get arrested.

01:41:08.000 And the best one was there was a dude whose name is Zamir, which you might know in Russian means for peace, right?

01:41:15.000 And he was in an airport standing with his name on a plaque, on like a little piece of cardboard or whatever.

01:41:21.000 His name means for peace.

01:41:23.000 And if you stand with a thing that says for peace, you're in favor of peace.

01:41:27.000 That means you're against the war in Ukraine.

01:41:30.000 Arrested.

01:41:30.000 But he was like waiting for someone to get picked up.

01:41:32.000 Yeah, he was just, that was his name.

01:41:33.000 Did you, did you see the, uh, there was a woman who was pro-invasion.

01:41:37.000 Yeah.

01:41:37.000 She walks up to the camera to argue in favor and the cops just grab her and arrest her.

01:41:40.000 And she's like, no, no, I'm supporting it.

01:41:42.000 I'm like, we don't care.

01:41:44.000 Russia in this moment is a totalitarian state when it comes to this.

01:41:47.000 There's no question about it.

01:41:48.000 Yeah.

01:41:48.000 Putin's been in power.

01:41:49.000 How long?

01:41:50.000 Uh, since 1999.

01:41:52.000 So you think about this.

01:41:53.000 When he first came to power, we were worried about the millennium bug.

01:41:58.000 Y2K. 0.97

01:42:00.000 What was he?

01:42:03.000 He wasn't KGB.

01:42:04.000 Do you know how he came to power?

01:42:05.000 It's a very interesting story.

01:42:06.000 Do you have a quick version?

01:42:07.000 Yeah, I do have a quick version.

01:42:08.000 So basically Boris Yeltsin, who was the president before him, needed someone to replace him that had no power.

01:42:15.000 That had no power because anyone who came in who already had power, the first thing they do is they put Yeltsin in prison, confiscate all his ill-gotten gains, etc.

01:42:23.000 So he found this guy that nobody had heard of.

01:42:25.000 Like Vladimir Putin in Russia before he became president had less profile than anyone in this room has in America right now.

01:42:31.000 Wow.

01:42:31.000 Right?

01:42:32.000 No one knew who he was.

01:42:33.000 And he came along and Boris Yeltsin made him acting prime minister.

01:42:37.000 Wow.

01:42:38.000 And if you're the incumbent in Russia, you know what that means, right?

01:42:40.000 You're going to win the election.

01:42:41.000 And then right before the election, Yeltsin said, actually, I'm a bit ill.

01:42:46.000 Why doesn't this nice guy take over and see what we can do?

01:42:49.000 And that's what he then did with Medvedev as well, remember that?

01:42:52.000 So Putin serves a couple of terms, that's when he's supposed to leave, he puts Medvedev in place, Medvedev comes in, changes all the laws so Putin can serve more longer terms, and then they do the switcheroo back.

01:43:02.000 Man.

01:43:04.000 Alright, let's see.

01:43:08.000 Philip Reid says, I don't know about Tim and the crew, but I'm getting sick and tired of waking up to major historical events.

01:43:13.000 You're in it.

01:43:14.000 Yeah, but you know what?

01:43:15.000 That was reality.

01:43:16.000 It was like, bro, you were in a golden age and that's why you weren't in historical events.

01:43:22.000 Now you are the major historical event.

01:43:24.000 Well, no, no.

01:43:24.000 Life was always, you know, in this country and everywhere else, it was always this historical moment.

01:43:28.000 Something big was happening.

01:43:30.000 But things got so soft and so protected in the United States that we had a period where nothing was happening and we were like, this is great.

01:43:36.000 No.

01:43:37.000 The natural state of the world is historical.

01:43:40.000 Yeah.

01:43:41.000 When you wake up, are you looking to be told what's going on in the world?

01:43:43.000 Or are you looking to tell the world what's going on?

01:43:45.000 I don't know.

01:43:49.000 Pick one.

01:43:50.000 Or do both.

01:43:51.000 All right.

01:43:53.000 Let's see, Jeff House says, your intent is wrong, Tim.

01:43:55.000 He was open-handed going for the mic near his face with a non-bladed cat ears less lethal weapon.

01:44:00.000 NBC News YouTube channel 134 zoomed in clip, love the show too much to let you get sued for libel over small details.

01:44:07.000 Well, we can't be sued for libel over reading a news article that said he tried, he went for his neck.

01:44:13.000 And it's also opinion statements.

01:44:15.000 Yeah, I also don't think he has said what his intent was, right?

01:44:18.000 Right.

01:44:19.000 We're not sure.

01:44:19.000 But I don't think that matters.

01:44:20.000 If a guy goes up on stage holding cat ears, if that's what they're called, and reaches around for someone's neck or whatever, you're allowed to interpret that.

01:44:29.000 That being said, if it turns out I'm wrong, outright okay.

01:44:34.000 But this is not a Covington Catholic situation where we got a small snippet.

01:44:39.000 I watched the video of the guy walk up on stage and go around and reach around and I saw the thing in his hands and then I read the reports and I'm like, I don't know what he was trying to do.

01:44:48.000 So I understand maybe why it was second degree attempted assault and that does explain it.

01:44:51.000 So, you know, I will accept that for sure.

01:44:53.000 I still think we got to be careful with this stuff, right?

01:44:58.000 I don't know if I want to argue.

01:44:59.000 I just don't think I really want this scenario playing out all the time.

01:45:02.000 Like this is wild that he just like strolled onto stage and was like, I'm going to carry a weapon and that's, that's okay.

01:45:08.000 And if his intent really was to try and do a slow roll, you know, neck shot or something, but masquerade as, I'm just going for the microphone.

01:45:14.000 That's all I'm doing.

01:45:15.000 You know what I mean?

01:45:16.000 So don't go up on stage with a, with a weapon of any kind and then reach around at the guy.

01:45:23.000 I don't want to apologize for what we, what we saw happen considering how dangerous things are getting, but you know, fair point.

01:45:30.000 Fair point, Jeff House.

01:45:31.000 Appreciate it.

01:45:33.000 All right, Michael.

01:45:35.000 Tim Sisko says, Tim, you have to get Colleen Noir or Mark Smith from the Four Boxes Diner on the show.

01:45:42.000 I mean, we'd love to get Colleen Noir on the show whenever he can.

01:45:44.000 That'd be fantastic.

01:45:47.000 C Recipe says, I had almost 300,000 subs and 60 million views on YouTube, and they deleted my channel, Just Informed Talk, two weeks before 2020 election in YouTube purge.

01:45:57.000 I've started over with a cooking show, Sea Recipes.

01:45:59.000 Any help for us?

01:46:01.000 Well, follow Sea Recipes, I suppose.

01:46:03.000 I know a couple other channels that YouTube deleted without cause.

01:46:06.000 It's insane.

01:46:08.000 Oh, Sea Recipes?

01:46:09.000 Is it the letter C?

01:46:09.000 Yeah, the letter C. All one word?

01:46:12.000 Yeah, Sea Recipes.

01:46:13.000 Do they like, what do they send you?

01:46:15.000 Do they send you like an email being like, bye?

01:46:17.000 Well, the people I saw, no.

01:46:18.000 Their accounts are just gone.

01:46:19.000 And they were like, no one talked to them.

01:46:22.000 Alan Smith says, one thing to remember about with the possibility of an alien invasion is the cross-contamination of viruses.

01:46:28.000 Yes, but why wouldn't a virus of an alien build a jump species?

01:46:32.000 Like, dogs get sick, we don't... As far as I know, correct me if I'm wrong, do humans get parvo?

01:46:36.000 They don't, right?

01:46:37.000 Hey, there's a lab in Wuhan that can help.

01:46:39.000 Oh, yeah.

01:46:40.000 You know, my theory is that COVID's here to protect us from the next alien invasion.

01:46:43.000 It's gonna kill all the aliens, because they don't have a resistance to it, but we've already built up one.

01:46:47.000 Are you gonna give them COVID blankets? 0.99

01:46:49.000 Is that what you're saying?

01:46:51.000 I don't think the aliens will have the appropriate receptors to take on human viruses, or vice versa.

01:46:56.000 We'll find out.

01:46:57.000 I just think, like, even if an alien life form comes down and they seem peaceful, like, they are so fundamentally different from us, like, do we really think it would be a sustainable pairing forever?

01:47:06.000 Like, what if they eat their young and they're like, but we just eat our own. 0.81

01:47:09.000 Well, you have a spare human child.

01:47:11.000 Could I just, like, have it?

01:47:12.000 Yeah, it didn't go well for the Neanderthals.

01:47:13.000 It just doesn't make sense.

01:47:15.000 Alright, Tyler Price says the Aztecs and them believed the Spanish were the return of Quetzalcoatl, one of their gods that was prophesied to come back, then were slaughtered.

01:47:23.000 That's it.

01:47:24.000 Yes, and the Aztecs also did ritualistic human sacrifice too, so it's like just a couple of bad groups of people.

01:47:30.000 It's kind of why you also want to shake out of like fantasy mode of any kind, whether it's like, whatever you believe, guy in the sky floating down.

01:47:37.000 Like if aliens do come, don't mistake it for like God.

01:47:40.000 Cause that's like, we got to take it very seriously.

01:47:42.000 It could be an invading force, but also don't be flipped out by the, when CNN tells you there's an invading force.

01:47:48.000 Cause there may not be one.

01:47:50.000 Mike S says, Tim, could you please ask your EU guest, what is a woman?

01:47:55.000 I don't think I'm a female.

01:47:58.000 It's fairly simple actually.

01:47:59.000 Yeah.

01:48:01.000 All right.

01:48:03.000 Araftis of Stet says, my dog Roxy just died today and I just wanted everyone to know she was the best little dog in the world and I'll miss her.

01:48:10.000 Sorry to hear, man.

01:48:11.000 Sorry to hear.

01:48:12.000 Shout out to Roxy. 0.99

01:48:14.000 Bad Penny says, I hate when people talk about aliens and compare them to what happened to the Indians, but they are alien. 0.63

01:48:20.000 They could just like studying new life forms.

01:48:22.000 Spin the UFO, unrelated.

01:48:23.000 Would love to see Jimmy from Bright Insight on sometime.

01:48:26.000 I would love to see, Jimmy, how we talk about Atlantis.

01:48:28.000 Spinning that Atlantis.

01:48:31.000 What is YouTube doing here?

01:48:34.000 All right.

01:48:35.000 Michael says, howdy Tim and crew.

01:48:36.000 Constine doesn't seem to understand how divided the United States really is.

01:48:40.000 How will we find any compromise with the far-left extremists when they're not even willing to engage in civil discourse?

01:48:46.000 Well, we've sort of covered it.

01:48:47.000 First of all, I think I'm well aware of how divided.

01:48:49.000 That was kind of my point, right?

01:48:51.000 But that's why I never used, when we were having that conversation, I never used the word compromise, because I don't think it's about compromising with the woke extremists.

01:48:58.000 I think it's about hitting that sensible middle that I was talking about, right?

01:49:02.000 You're never gonna compromise with the extremists on either side, because it's not possible.

01:49:05.000 They're extremists.

01:49:06.000 Yeah.

01:49:08.000 I think the solution is get people away from these big woke corporations and let the woke corporations suffer under their wokeness. 0.83

01:49:16.000 Get woke, go broke.

01:49:18.000 Do your thing.

01:49:18.000 Look at Jeremy's Razors.

01:49:21.000 Man, Harry's was like, we're canceling.

01:49:23.000 And they're like, we're gonna make our own razor company.

01:49:24.000 And then they did.

01:49:25.000 And now they're rivaling and competing with these companies is absolutely brilliant.

01:49:31.000 Hugh Jennings says, David Dorn's killer was convicted.

01:49:35.000 That's right.

01:49:36.000 Glad to see it.

01:49:37.000 Some accountability.

01:49:39.000 Not across the board, but enough.

01:49:40.000 So, you know, or I should say enough there, at least.

01:49:44.000 All right.

01:49:45.000 Dano says, Ian, please bring some actual meaningful conversation.

01:49:49.000 We are tired of hearing you correct everyone's grammar.

01:49:52.000 Okay, let's talk about poly... Let's talk about micro-fragmentation, coral micro-fragmentation.

01:49:57.000 Right now they say the coral reefs are dying off.

01:50:00.000 If you shatter coral into hundreds, thousands of pieces, call it micro-fragmentation of coral.

01:50:04.000 It all grows together and you can reform the coral reefs fast.

01:50:08.000 You get this polycultural microfragmentation because coral reefs are lots of different animal species living together.

01:50:14.000 Coral's an animal.

01:50:15.000 So you need a lot of different cultures of coral when we regrow the coral reefs.

01:50:19.000 That's what I was about to say.

01:50:20.000 That's right.

01:50:20.000 You want to give people hope.

01:50:21.000 That's why I'm here.

01:50:22.000 Science is cool.

01:50:23.000 Yeah.

01:50:24.000 It's what, yeah, yes.

01:50:25.000 All right, John Desi says 4,000 fired.

01:50:28.000 Replacements in place before he takes office.

01:50:30.000 Do your research.

01:50:32.000 Oh, okay.

01:50:34.000 Brian Page says, please buy billboards along I-95 and Rhode Island.

01:50:37.000 We need more people listening to Timcast in this tiny Democrat wasteland.

01:50:42.000 Oh, Rhode Island.

01:50:43.000 You know, the thing about billboards is they're like extremely regionally, you know, targeting and it's like, is Rhode Island really gonna, you know, is that really a market we should be buying ads in?

01:50:54.000 Yes.

01:50:54.000 You know why?

01:50:55.000 Because we got to plant the seeds whose shade we know we may never sit beneath.

01:50:59.000 And it's the summer right now.

01:51:00.000 So if you're in New England, you go to Rhode Island to go to the beach.

01:51:03.000 So you're getting a lot of regional traffic.

01:51:04.000 Rhode Island is like three miles wide.

01:51:06.000 It's like more than that, but I'm exaggerating.

01:51:09.000 It's microscopic.

01:51:10.000 So like a nice $3,000 billboard for a month all over the country.

01:51:13.000 Just tons of $3,000 billboards and like semi-rural.

01:51:17.000 No, those would cost like $300.

01:51:18.000 That would be epic.

01:51:20.000 Let's do like $10,300 billboards.

01:51:22.000 Suburban and rural billboards are really cheap.

01:51:26.000 That might be what it's at next.

01:51:28.000 There was a billboard bought out here and I think it was 300 bucks.

01:51:31.000 Like West Virginia billboard was like 300 bucks.

01:51:34.000 I think it was for like a month.

01:51:35.000 That'd be cool.

01:51:36.000 Yeah.

01:51:36.000 So Times Square, I'll let you guys in on some secrets, ridiculously cheap.

01:51:40.000 Really?

01:51:41.000 Ridiculously cheap.

01:51:42.000 You can get like $10 per play.

01:51:46.000 So they're digital billboards.

01:51:48.000 So there are some agencies where you can get, you know, a 25 foot screen and it's $10 per run with a 10 run minimum.

01:51:55.000 So it's like $100 and then you go stand in front of it, your ad plays, you get a picture of it.

01:51:59.000 And there you go.

01:52:01.000 Now, if you want like a month is when you're going to start getting into the tens of thousands of dollars.

01:52:06.000 So some of those bigger billboards can be, you know, like the bigger ones that are up high, 30 grand for a month.

01:52:14.000 Then the big, the most expensive one I think is that it's like the tower or something.

01:52:19.000 It's 625,000 per week.

01:52:20.000 Massive, super huge, like what is it like a hundred, 200 feet or something like that?

01:52:26.000 It's so iconic.

01:52:27.000 Right.

01:52:28.000 And so the thing is, someone pointed out that there's a Resident Evil TikTok for their ad in Times Square, and you can see the edge of the Timcast one in it.

01:52:36.000 That's why you buy Times Square.

01:52:37.000 Dang, those 3D billboards.

01:52:39.000 Have you guys been seeing those?

01:52:40.000 Those are cool, right?

01:52:40.000 I don't know what they look like in person.

01:52:42.000 I still haven't seen one in person.

01:52:43.000 We saw one when we were in New York.

01:52:45.000 It was right there?

01:52:45.000 Yeah, actually, you're right.

01:52:47.000 Man, those things are stunning.

01:52:48.000 Yeah, it's super cool.

01:52:49.000 It wraps around, and then it was like a robot.

01:52:51.000 Yeah, it looks like it's coming out at you.

01:52:53.000 It's crazy.

01:52:53.000 Yeah, it's super cool.

01:52:55.000 Those are fun.

01:52:56.000 All right.

01:52:57.000 Mr. Dad Folk says, no unemployment. 0.96

01:53:00.000 These bloodsuckers have sapped enough from the American people. 1.00

01:53:02.000 They need to find a job ASAP if they want to keep a million dollar roof over their heads. 0.90

01:53:05.000 Woof! 0.98

01:53:07.000 Spicy.

01:53:07.000 I know the desire.

01:53:09.000 I keep thinking about, you actually brought up Shay's Rebellion last night.

01:53:11.000 Thank you.

01:53:11.000 I did.

01:53:12.000 Because in that instance, it was John Hancock that pardoned all those farmers.

01:53:16.000 And I think it's, we're in the age of maybe another round of pardons against whoever you think your enemies might be right now.

01:53:21.000 Kind of, we got to move forward together.

01:53:23.000 We don't gotta, but I'd like to.

01:53:26.000 All right.

01:53:26.000 Milo Hoffman says you don't replace a cancer tumor when you remove it.

01:53:30.000 Fire them all.

01:53:31.000 If something needs done, the states can do it.

01:53:35.000 Yeah, you know, people are saying things like, like, oh, no, well, who's going to Trump?

01:53:40.000 Trump's going to replace these people with and I'm like, I kind of feel like less government is a good thing.

01:53:43.000 You know, I don't inherently think less like it's less government across the board.

01:53:47.000 Let's we'll figure it out.

01:53:49.000 Storm Viking says Chris Hayes on MSNBC just was lying through his whole segment, saying the Capitol officer was killed by rioters and saying Donald Trump didn't condemn the rioting.

01:53:58.000 Throw some more Jan 6 BS in.

01:54:00.000 Wow.

01:54:02.000 How many new outlets lied about cops dying on January 6?

01:54:05.000 Crazy.

01:54:07.000 Apparently the New York Times, they ran a story about the cop having the stroke or whatever.

01:54:11.000 The narrative was that he was hitting that with a fire extinguisher and then you find out later it's just like, it wasn't true.

01:54:16.000 He had like a stroke the next day and they're like, oh!

01:54:18.000 Well then for a while they were saying like, the stress of the day's events triggered these things that wouldn't have happened without them.

01:54:26.000 Yeah.

01:54:26.000 The Federal Reserve.

01:54:27.000 That was how I got my first weed card.

01:54:29.000 I was like, tension, stress.

01:54:30.000 They're like, what's stressing you out?

01:54:31.000 Federal Reserve.

01:54:32.000 You need a weed card.

01:54:34.000 You got it, buddy.

01:54:36.000 James Nelson says, once he declares, start naming appointees he would put in place and have them start lining up staff so day one they can swap out the corrupt lifers, then move agencies to cities across America.

01:54:47.000 Hmm.

01:54:47.000 All right.

01:54:49.000 I dig it.

01:54:50.000 Didn't they move the Department of the Interior to Colorado and then they're like, we're going to move back to D.C.

01:54:55.000 though.

01:54:55.000 This isn't working.

01:54:56.000 That's crazy.

01:54:58.000 All right.

01:55:00.000 KatothSwiss says this guy speaks as if the left is rational and open to conversation.

01:55:04.000 I suppose ignorance is bliss.

01:55:06.000 Where is the U.K.

01:55:06.000 in regards to the groomer gangs?

01:55:09.000 Well, it's an issue we've covered on our show extensively.

01:55:11.000 We just had a report come out which confirmed what happened.

01:55:14.000 But yeah, this is the problem, right?

01:55:16.000 We had... Do you know what they are?

01:55:17.000 The grooming gangs?

01:55:18.000 No.

01:55:18.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:55:19.000 What's that?

01:55:19.000 Especially with when Tommy Robinson was covering it.

01:55:22.000 Yeah, a lot of people... He got arrested.

01:55:23.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:55:24.000 So what happened was basically for decades, gangs of men predominantly of South Asian background.

01:55:30.000 So I think Pakistani and Bangladeshi, I think.

01:55:34.000 were basically finding vulnerable predominantly white and Sikh girls who were not adults usually and raping them for years.

01:55:47.000 There were a few that were actually killed during this process and what compounded that problem is the police, the local councils, the authorities, they didn't do anything about it because of quote-unquote sensitivities about race.

01:56:04.000 Wow.

01:56:04.000 Right.

01:56:05.000 We interviewed a woman, a brave woman called Dr. Ella Hill, who was one of the victims of these.

01:56:11.000 So the video is on our channel about it.

01:56:14.000 Yeah, well, it's a terrible thing and it happened.

01:56:17.000 I think it's still happening to some extent.

01:56:20.000 But again, It takes time and it's awful that it happened, but we are, even on that issue, slowly making a bit of progress because now it's being talked about.

01:56:29.000 But I remember Tommy Robinson, what was he there for?

01:56:32.000 He was there when they were sentencing or something like that?

01:56:35.000 In one of these cases, yeah.

01:56:36.000 They arrested him for it, right?

01:56:38.000 They arrested him for breaking the law around reporting on criminal cases, yeah.

01:56:42.000 And you can't, that's insane to me.

01:56:44.000 What law did they say you broke?

01:56:45.000 I don't remember the details right now.

01:56:47.000 I think it's something to do with the way that you cover cases which haven't been finalized.

01:56:52.000 But so, you know, it's been a while.

01:56:54.000 I could be totally wrong.

01:56:55.000 My understanding was that the case was, the trial was done and it was like sentencing or something like that.

01:57:01.000 And they're like, we don't care.

01:57:02.000 You can't do this.

01:57:03.000 And apparently he asked for permission.

01:57:05.000 He was like, is it okay if I come in for him?

01:57:06.000 Like, yeah.

01:57:06.000 And then he walks over and they're like, okay, you're under arrest.

01:57:08.000 He was like, what?

01:57:10.000 It was a long time ago.

01:57:11.000 I don't remember the exact details.

01:57:13.000 I don't remember it quite that way.

01:57:15.000 I'm pretty sure he asked.

01:57:16.000 I'm pretty sure he was like, is it okay if I film?

01:57:17.000 They're like, yeah, he's like, all right.

01:57:18.000 And then they came late, like maybe a supervisor was like, no, no, no, arrest him.

01:57:23.000 I don't know, man.

01:57:23.000 The stuff I've seen with Tommy Robinson, the government really was screwing around, to put it simply.

01:57:30.000 But to me, like, the idea that you couldn't report on a trial is crazy.

01:57:33.000 You know, like, as an American, like, standing outside of a court and, like, reporting... Oh, bro, I mean, you weren't crazy.

01:57:38.000 I'll give you an example.

01:57:39.000 We had a comedian called Joe Leiser who was investigated by the police for a joke he did because an audience member... You weren't crazy?

01:57:45.000 We got crazy.

01:57:46.000 Man... In the UK, we got crazy, but... This is why we declared independence.

01:57:50.000 You know that, right?

01:57:51.000 Well done, you.

01:57:53.000 Right.

01:57:54.000 We don't have a First Amendment.

01:57:55.000 Yeah, I know.

01:57:56.000 It's a big problem.

01:57:58.000 Yeah, man, I remember following a lot of these stories with, um, what is it, Speaker's Corner?

01:58:01.000 What is it called?

01:58:02.000 Yeah, Speaker's Corner.

01:58:03.000 People were getting, like, arrested or carted away and stuff.

01:58:06.000 Well, we've got police officers calling people up and saying, you posted this thing on Twitter, we need to check your thinking.

01:58:11.000 Wow. 1.00

01:58:12.000 Check your thinking, what a terrible brain. 1.00

01:58:15.000 Yeah, a guy called Harry Miller. 1.00

01:58:17.000 All right.

01:58:18.000 Scouty says, Tim and team, you're my favorite podcast, but please have on some actual atheists to explain their positions.

01:58:24.000 There's been a lot of straw manning, albeit incidental.

01:58:27.000 I can email some suggestions.

01:58:28.000 Thanks for all you do.

01:58:30.000 I would love to get, I mean, we've had atheists on the show.

01:58:32.000 We've literally, the quotes I've made about the atheists we've had, I'm sorry, the quotes I've said about atheists have been the ones who are on the show and said things.

01:58:41.000 But, none of these people I think were like, atheists, theologians, or, you know, religious scholars.

01:58:50.000 So, that would be interesting.

01:58:51.000 Like a Gnostic. 1.00

01:58:52.000 I want a Gnostic on the show. 1.00

01:58:54.000 Wuzzo says, in your 4pm segment you said swamp monsters.

01:58:57.000 My wife and I immediately jumped into the chorus of swamp monsters to the tune of Rock Lobster.

01:59:02.000 So a monster!

01:59:03.000 We should write that song.

01:59:09.000 Okay, we'll grab some musubi chits. 0.96

01:59:13.000 All right.

01:59:14.000 Bobcat says, why does Tim keep preaching generational warfare as if that theory has any relation to reality?

01:59:19.000 It's been debunked in Iraq, Afghanistan, and the 2020 insurrection.

01:59:23.000 Seriously, get an actual shooter on.

01:59:24.000 What are you talking about?

01:59:26.000 Like, generational warfare describes things that are literally happening.

01:59:30.000 Get a shooter on.

01:59:31.000 What does that mean?

01:59:33.000 I don't know, like an actual combat vet or something?

01:59:36.000 Generational warfare refers to advancements and tactics in warfare, and they're real.

01:59:41.000 So, like, just because fifth-generational warfare is happening doesn't mean third-generational warfare doesn't

01:59:45.000 exist anymore.

01:59:46.000 It still does.

01:59:47.000 I think the military actually claimed there used to be three theaters of war, land, sea, and air, and then there

01:59:51.000 were four, which was land, sea, air, and cyber.

01:59:53.000 Now there's five.

01:59:54.000 Space.

01:59:55.000 Well, cyber and space were one.

01:59:56.000 What?

01:59:57.000 It was land, sea, air.

01:59:57.000 Well, actually, it's airspace.

01:59:59.000 Land, sea, air, and space, and cyber.

02:00:00.000 And then now, spirituality is a fifth theater of war.

02:00:04.000 I saw a four-star general talking about it.

02:00:06.000 Let's see if I can pull that up for a later show.

02:00:08.000 Huh.

02:00:09.000 Yeah.

02:00:09.000 The spiritual theater.

02:00:11.000 Spiritual.

02:00:11.000 This is actual military doctrine, as far as I was told.

02:00:15.000 Mitch says Tim would love for Timcast to have apps for Roku, etc.

02:00:18.000 Is there any plan?

02:00:18.000 Yes!

02:00:19.000 Okay, so we are like a tiny fraction of the size of the Daily Wire, but we have to get more members and get bigger.

02:00:29.000 We've got like one dev and it's expensive.

02:00:32.000 So we've been slowly rolling out technological advancements to the site to improve things.

02:00:38.000 It's a particularly rudimentary system that we've built.

02:00:41.000 We're doing well.

02:00:42.000 We're hiring more people.

02:00:43.000 We just like literally hired I think like two or three more people with more people on the way.

02:00:47.000 It is difficult.

02:00:49.000 You know, I think we're approaching like 35 employees, and so we need managerial power, but then managerial power costs a lot of money, and so it's like we can only grow as fast as we can grow, and I'll put it this way, if we had the Roku apps, we'd probably get way more members.

02:01:03.000 To make the Roku app, we need to grow to a point where we can hire a couple devs to build it out, and so we're bursting at the seams.

02:01:12.000 We can only go as fast as humans can go, and budget constraints allow.

02:01:16.000 And as you expand, you grow in every direction.

02:01:18.000 So it's like we get a dev, we get Roku, all of a sudden now we need content to fill it, so we, you know, we just start expanding.

02:01:23.000 Long story short, we want Roku, we want Chromecast, we want Apple, we want LGTV, Samsung TV, all those apps take a long time to do, and we need a mobile app.

02:01:34.000 We were working on the mobile app.

02:01:35.000 That fell through because we were a relatively small operation, and we are... I imagine it like we have a 10-ton boulder with a chain, and we are pulling that boulder uphill.

02:01:47.000 We can only go so fast.

02:01:48.000 But the more people who line up behind it and start pushing on that boulder, the faster we move up that mountain.

02:01:53.000 Hopefully in five years, we're gonna be bigger than Disney+.

02:01:57.000 And people are gonna be like, I canceled Disney Plus.

02:02:00.000 I'm just, you know, it's just Tim Cass and Daily Wire for me.

02:02:03.000 That's what we're hoping for.

02:02:04.000 So I will say this, smash that like button, subscribe to the channel, share the show with your friends, and become a member at TimCast.com.

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02:02:18.000 Constantine, do you want to shout anything out?

02:02:20.000 I'm on at Constantine Kissin, and of course the show is Trigonometry, and buy my book, An Immigrant's Love Letter to the West.

02:02:25.000 Where would they buy that?

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02:02:26.000 Okay.

02:02:28.000 I'm Hannah-Claire Brimlow.

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02:02:38.000 Hit me up on social media.

02:02:39.000 And if you want to follow up on what I was talking about by the general, the four-star general talking about the theaters of war and the advancement, it's called The Future of War.

02:02:46.000 This is the video.

02:02:47.000 The Future of War and How It Affects You.

02:02:48.000 It's by Smarter Every Day.

02:02:50.000 Destin, brilliant man.

02:02:52.000 And I found it.

02:02:52.000 You can search YouTube for The Future of War, Smarter Every Day.

02:02:56.000 It's a 25-minute, 28-minute documentary that he did with his general.

02:03:00.000 It's fantastic.

02:03:01.000 See you later.

02:03:02.000 Very cool.

02:03:03.000 Thanks you guys so much for tuning in this evening.

02:03:04.000 You guys can follow me on Twitter and Minds.com at SourPatchLids as well as SourPatchLids.me We will see all of you on any one of our shows.

02:03:12.000 Check out YouTube.com slash CastCastle, though it is becoming a much bigger show and we're moving to YouTube.

02:03:18.000 I want to clarify something for everybody.

02:03:20.000 What we want to do... So, hold on.

02:03:22.000 I go on Chicken City, right?

02:03:24.000 ChickenCityLive.com.

02:03:25.000 And we have these funny cartoons.

02:03:27.000 The latest one we did was we asked an AI to write a story and it wrote a story about Ian being a chicken.

02:03:32.000 It gets like 60,000 views and I'm like, man, that's huge.

02:03:36.000 We have cast a castle with funny jokes.

02:03:37.000 Here's what we want to do.

02:03:38.000 On the YouTube channel, we want to put up like a minute gag video or like a two minute video short or something, you know, special from the space.

02:03:45.000 And then the website, we're going to have the full show.

02:03:48.000 So that's the plan.

02:03:48.000 You can also check out chickencitylive.com and you can check out timcast.com for tales from the inverted world.

02:03:52.000 It's been a blast hanging out with all of you this week.

02:03:54.000 We'll be back live on Monday.

02:03:56.000 Thanks for hanging out.

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