Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - Timcast IRL - Biden REJECTS Border Meeting As TERRORIST RELEASED By CBP w- Dave DeCamp

00:00:00.000 So, Joe Biden has rejected a meeting with Democrats who are concerned over what's happening

00:00:11.000 on the border.

00:00:12.000 At the same time, we've got news that CBP apprehended an actual terrorist suspect and released him.

00:00:20.000 And now we've got information that ICE has arrested the individual, but it's kind of insane that that could even happen.

00:00:26.000 How is it happening?

00:00:26.000 Well, we've got a viral video where it appears, it's been reported, the federal government has deployed a backloader to lift up razor wire to allow illegal immigrants to flood into the southern border.

00:00:39.000 And it's just insult to injury, so we'll talk a lot about that.

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00:01:44.000 Joining us tonight to talk about all of this and a whole lot more is Dave DeCamp.

00:01:48.000 Tim, thanks for having me.

00:01:49.000 My name is Dave DeCamp.

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00:03:18.000 Well, it's so fun.

00:03:19.000 Serge is here, are we just gonna jump into the news then?

00:03:21.000 Yeah!

00:03:22.000 Alright, here's the story, but it's not the story.

00:03:24.000 The story is this.

00:03:26.000 Biden declines meeting with Dem Mayors demanding action on border crisis.

00:03:30.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah, we get it.

00:03:31.000 Biden doesn't care.

00:03:32.000 Let me give you the actual story.

00:03:33.000 Here's a video.

00:03:35.000 Texas installed a border fence to keep illegal migrants out.

00:03:38.000 The federal government came in and lifted it to allow hundreds of illegal immigrants to pour in. 0.91

00:03:43.000 They say it's not a crisis, it's an invasion.

00:03:44.000 Can I get this video?

00:03:45.000 There you go.

00:03:47.000 I am... I am... This is like... This is crazy.

00:03:51.000 When did this happen?

00:03:52.000 Let me turn that down.

00:03:55.000 So... This is just... First, let me just say...

00:04:00.000 This is clearly a video that appears to be Eagle Pass.

00:04:03.000 I'm not entirely sure.

00:04:05.000 We don't have the exact location or whatever confirmed, but you clearly have CBP trucks there and a backloader lifting up the razor wire, allowing... This is hundreds of people.

00:04:14.000 What in the actual hell? 0.54

00:04:16.000 That's crazy, right?

00:04:18.000 It is mind-blowing that the federal government I just want to stress this once again, and we'll definitely tie in Aid to Israel with it all too.

00:04:24.000 Like, not only do they not enforce the law, but they're breaking the law, aiding and abetting

00:04:31.000 people that are breaking the law.

00:04:33.000 This is mind-blowing.

00:04:34.000 I just want to stress this once again, and you know, we'll definitely tie in Aid to Israel

00:04:37.000 with it all too.

00:04:38.000 The federal government hates you.

00:04:40.000 They are taking your money and your savings, they are spending it on money to blow up kids,

00:04:45.000 and they are spending it to facilitate criminal activities in this country.

00:04:51.000 When, okay, I just, what would you call it if members of your own, of individuals in your own government are giving resources and material aid to people who are not citizens in order for those people to break the laws of your country?

00:05:03.000 Yeah, I think that's treason.

00:05:05.000 It might be treason, but they're not, we're not at war with these people, so maybe not But, once again, to bundle all of it up together, just to make it, we'll make it anti-war too.

00:05:15.000 Yeah, they're not taking care of us.

00:05:18.000 If you're on the left, ask yourself why you don't have healthcare.

00:05:21.000 Okay?

00:05:22.000 If you're on the right, ask why it is your savings, your buying power, continually goes down.

00:05:28.000 It doesn't matter who you are or what you want.

00:05:30.000 We can all agree, the first step is, these people need to be stopped.

00:05:34.000 We need to get them out of government.

00:05:36.000 We need law enforcement to stop people who are committing crimes.

00:05:40.000 This is like, okay, treason, and I don't have the whole definition of the word treason, but it's the crime of attacking a state authority to which one owes allegiance.

00:05:46.000 The federal government owes its allegiance to the state of Texas.

00:05:48.000 It owes its allegiance to every state in the union, and if it's violating Texas law...

00:05:52.000 To incite criminals.

00:05:55.000 That's treasonous in my opinion.

00:05:56.000 That's just a sentence of it, I don't know.

00:05:58.000 Do we know anything more about this?

00:06:00.000 Like, when this happened or who exactly these people are?

00:06:03.000 So this has been ongoing.

00:06:04.000 There was actually, the bigger story was that CBP was snipping the razor wire.

00:06:08.000 Yeah, I remember that.

00:06:08.000 And this is a component of that.

00:06:10.000 Okay.

00:06:10.000 So I'm assuming this video is probably recent considering this whole Eagle Pass thing has been going on in the past several weeks.

00:06:17.000 And then is there ever any explanation?

00:06:18.000 Because I remember seeing the snipping.

00:06:20.000 Have they ever said anything about that?

00:06:22.000 Yeah, they claim that they're legally obligated to allow people into the country to apply for asylum or something like that.

00:06:27.000 Wow.

00:06:27.000 But here's the issue.

00:06:29.000 If they're here, allowing them... The argument is once they cross the middle of the river, now that they're in America, they can't be deported.

00:06:37.000 And I'm just like, yeah, I don't buy it because I think it was Texas that put the buoy barrier in the water and they came and said, you gotta get that out now.

00:06:46.000 It's like, well, hold on.

00:06:48.000 When you put it in the water, you say, nope, it has to go.

00:06:50.000 When you put it on land, you say, oh, well, they're already here.

00:06:52.000 Is this confirmed that this is actually, this is exactly what we think it is?

00:06:58.000 Because I see a lot of fake videos these days.

00:07:00.000 Fair point, but I mean, this is the CBB truck.

00:07:05.000 Okay, so this is Auden B. Cabello, citizen journalist documenting the migrant journey.

00:07:11.000 And he says, Eagle Pass, Texas.

00:07:13.000 Texas state versus federal battle continues, this time with forklifts.

00:07:16.000 This is November 2nd.

00:07:17.000 Last week, the federal government used a forklift to raise wire and let 300 migrants in. 1.00

00:07:21.000 So, I don't believe it's a forklift.

00:07:22.000 I believe it's a backloader.

00:07:24.000 I could be wrong.

00:07:25.000 I remember I saw a video recently of people, like, putting cardboard and stuff under the barbed wire, crawling, and then they actually made them turn around and go back.

00:07:35.000 Wow.

00:07:36.000 But that, again, that was just kind of a random video on Twitter.

00:07:38.000 There's another video where Border Patrol opens the gate at the bollard fencing and lets people in, and they're just like, and I'm just like, what?

00:07:47.000 This is why they got so mad when Trump said build a wall.

00:07:51.000 Before Trump said, we're going to go ham on the border, these people were just coming across. 1.00

00:07:58.000 And what was happening is really interesting.

00:08:00.000 They weren't reporting apprehensions because there weren't any.

00:08:04.000 So when they say there were only 50,000 apprehensions, immigration was low.

00:08:07.000 No, it was probably 550,000 illegal crossings and only 50,000 actually apprehended.

00:08:14.000 When Donald Trump started apprehending, apprehensions skyrocketed.

00:08:16.000 And they said, see, it's getting worse under Trump.

00:08:19.000 Now we can see what's going on.

00:08:20.000 You're right.

00:08:20.000 They're not being apprehended.

00:08:21.000 They're being welcomed in.

00:08:23.000 And we do know the Biden administration was trafficking children.

00:08:26.000 I want to stress this.

00:08:27.000 Statement of fact.

00:08:28.000 The Biden administration.

00:08:30.000 Statement of absolute fact.

00:08:33.000 Trafficked migrant children. 1.00

00:08:36.000 Have a nice day. 0.99

00:08:37.000 They're helping blow up children in Gaza right now, too. 0.94

00:08:41.000 That's fair, and they're also blowing up children in many other countries.

00:08:46.000 I'm not biased.

00:08:48.000 We can't be biased about one.

00:08:49.000 Yeah, I mean, Yemen.

00:08:52.000 Secret war in Yemen?

00:08:53.000 I mean, that's been ongoing for a really long time.

00:08:55.000 But I guess, who was just saying that the crisis has only just ended?

00:08:59.000 Probably because the U.S.

00:08:59.000 is shifting all of its resources to- Oh, in Yemen?

00:09:01.000 Yeah.

00:09:02.000 Well, there's been a ceasefire between the Houthis, who control most of North Yemen, and the Saudis, who the U.S.

00:09:06.000 was backing in that war, which was a very brutal war.

00:09:09.000 There's been a ceasefire that held since April 2022 relatively well.

00:09:13.000 There hasn't been any airstrikes.

00:09:14.000 There's been fighting at the border.

00:09:15.000 But now you have the Houthis fire missiles at Israel, and things could get, you know, it puts the Saudis in a- Dave?

00:09:22.000 Spot.

00:09:22.000 Uh-huh?

00:09:22.000 I don't care.

00:09:23.000 Okay.

00:09:24.000 We should not be funding it.

00:09:25.000 You're right.

00:09:25.000 We should not be involved in this stuff.

00:09:27.000 We shouldn't be, but we are.

00:09:27.000 I know.

00:09:28.000 That's the thing, that's why we do need to care.

00:09:30.000 Because to the Houthis, because you might not care, not many people are aware, but if you read Houthi media, every attack, every bombing, every shelling is not just the Saudis doing it, they call it U.S.-Saudi aggression. 0.84

00:09:42.000 So, but I'll clarify. 0.95

00:09:43.000 I'm kind of being a dick. 0.97

00:09:44.000 I, of course, care about war. 0.96

00:09:45.000 I don't want it to happen, but I think the U.S.

00:09:48.000 makes it worse.

00:09:49.000 You're right.

00:09:50.000 And then they're spending my money to make it worse.

00:09:52.000 And we had this, we had an excellent, amazing conversation this morning with Stephen Marsh on the culture war.

00:09:57.000 And we were basically just like, Stephen said something like, the U.S., if you're going to go up against the U.S.

00:10:02.000 military, you're in trouble.

00:10:03.000 And I'm like, why?

00:10:04.000 They lose every war.

00:10:05.000 But they win the engagements.

00:10:07.000 That's a horrifying thing to say.

00:10:09.000 The U.S.

00:10:09.000 can actually blow you up successfully, but they can't maintain control.

00:10:13.000 It just falls apart.

00:10:13.000 They don't have, like, war goals.

00:10:15.000 I haven't seen, like, a legitimate war goal from the United States government.

00:10:18.000 They just want to keep the wars going.

00:10:19.000 Since, like, World War II.

00:10:21.000 I mean, there hasn't been a war, legal war, in the United States since World War II.

00:10:24.000 I have none of them declare Vietnam.

00:10:26.000 I don't know what the purpose of that war was.

00:10:27.000 They never really...

00:10:28.000 What was that?

00:10:29.000 Vietnam?

00:10:30.000 Was it to get oil?

00:10:31.000 They never really say stop communism.

00:10:33.000 We said it was containment.

00:10:35.000 It was to contain communism because they were considered the domino theory, which was as countries fell to communism, more countries would fall to communism.

00:10:44.000 That's like a never-ending thing, so that's not really a war goal.

00:10:47.000 It was a proxy war with the Soviets.

00:10:50.000 I think they were trying to get Malaysian oil, and they just never wanted to tell anyone.

00:10:53.000 Well, they won't say that out loud.

00:10:55.000 There was a lot of Malaysian oil.

00:10:56.000 They tried to do it with the TPP.

00:10:57.000 World War I, World War II, and the Cold War were all basically the same thing.

00:11:00.000 I agree, it's one thing.

00:11:02.000 Right, so Vietnam is a component of the U.S.

00:11:05.000 was at war with the Soviets, but we were all scared if we engage in direct conflict, nuclear weapons will fly.

00:11:09.000 So we did these, we're in, war in Vietnam!

00:11:12.000 And it was really Soviet and Communist Chinese interests.

00:11:15.000 Well, you see what they're doing in Ukraine, they use the same justification.

00:11:19.000 The claim is that if Putin isn't stopped in Ukraine, he's gonna roll into Eastern Europe, but that's just complete nonsense. 0.91

00:11:25.000 Yeah, your nonsense doesn't even cut it.

00:11:27.000 You gotta do the narrator meme. 0.96

00:11:28.000 He would not.

00:11:29.000 Yeah, but you know John Mearsheimer?

00:11:31.000 He's the international relations professor, the realist guy.

00:11:35.000 His lectures, you know, really popular on YouTube.

00:11:38.000 He was always warning for years and years that the US and the West was going to provoke a war in Ukraine.

00:11:42.000 He always says that before 2014, the coup in Kiev and the Civil War in the Donbass and Russia annexing Crimea.

00:11:49.000 He said before that they never said Putin was, you know, trying to go into Europe.

00:11:53.000 That was never a talking point.

00:11:54.000 Then all of a sudden he became this guy who wanted to reinstate the Russian Empire and, you know, roll into Poland. 0.80

00:12:00.000 But it's just a nonsense talking point.

00:12:02.000 Putin, I think, three or four weeks ago, maybe a month and a half ago, was like, the collective West has lost its mind, or the West has lost its collective mind.

00:12:09.000 It was just a hilarious statement.

00:12:10.000 He's just looking at it like, what in the hell is he doing?

00:12:14.000 He's right.

00:12:14.000 I don't think he's a good guy, but he's right.

00:12:19.000 It's so weird.

00:12:21.000 How do we strip this apart?

00:12:24.000 The bifurcation in American politics is just so insane.

00:12:31.000 There's no unification on what this country should be doing.

00:12:35.000 There are people who are holding on to the last vestiges of the American Constitutional Republic.

00:12:40.000 There's a lot of them.

00:12:41.000 But then I think the average, run-of-the-mill person doesn't know or care, and then the left is actively seeking to subvert.

00:12:47.000 I think what we're seeing with the... We talked about this this morning again.

00:12:53.000 You know, Stephen mentioned that the United States was born of rebels and that rebel mentality exists within our documents.

00:12:59.000 Our documents were written by rebels and we maintain that even to the Civil War.

00:13:02.000 It all makes sense, right?

00:13:03.000 And then Phil brought up exactly what the government is doing.

00:13:07.000 I said they're trying to stamp out the rebel spirit.

00:13:10.000 Which is a component of why they're like, get as many non-rebellious people to come into the United States, and that will start to erode our ideals. 1.00

00:13:18.000 That's part of the thing, one of the things that I'm concerned about with, not just with CBDCs, like Central Bank Digital Currencies, but also with the idea of basic minimum, basic living... Universal Basic Income, UBI.

00:13:32.000 When people are on the government payroll, And everyone is on the government payroll.

00:13:39.000 That really is going to make people completely subservient.

00:13:45.000 Now there's still people that are like, I don't need the government.

00:13:48.000 I don't want to deal with the government.

00:13:49.000 All I want to do is live my life in a way that is as independent as possible.

00:13:55.000 If you have a CBDC, definitely.

00:13:57.000 If you have some kind of UBI, there's going to be so many people that are Just completely and totally dependent on the government, more so than now.

00:14:08.000 Now, most people in urban areas, most people in cities are on some level dependent on the government, even if it's dependent on the government to make sure that they can get out of their driveway if it snows or, you know, to make sure that they have water and sewage, plumbing and stuff like that.

00:14:25.000 But if you have people that are getting a UBI, everything is going to be dependent on the government.

00:14:31.000 Everything.

00:14:33.000 All of their income.

00:14:34.000 That means that you're dependent on the government to eat.

00:14:36.000 But, realistically, the moment a UBI goes into effect, the economy spirals out of control and within a month, there's no economy at all.

00:14:42.000 I strongly agree.

00:14:44.000 Yeah, I just saw that we print a trillion dollars in the last three months.

00:14:48.000 A trillion?

00:14:49.000 Yeah.

00:14:49.000 It's crazy.

00:14:50.000 I think it took 250 years to get to the first trillion.

00:14:52.000 And what was it?

00:14:54.000 80% is just specifically for Zelensky himself, personally.

00:14:57.000 Bottom of a big mansion in a big boat.

00:14:59.000 His fetus cat.

00:15:01.000 Biden's asking for $105 billion to fund the war in Ukraine, the war in Gaza, to give military aid to Taiwan so they could work on provoking another war in Southeast Asia.

00:15:11.000 And there is some for border security to entice the Republicans, but... Right.

00:15:15.000 It's just an insane amount of money.

00:15:17.000 $105 billion.

00:15:18.000 But I love this.

00:15:19.000 Biden's like, we need money for Ukraine and Israel and Taiwan!

00:15:23.000 And the border.

00:15:25.000 And the border.

00:15:25.000 And the Republicans are like, border?

00:15:27.000 Border?

00:15:28.000 Did you say omnibus?

00:15:30.000 I'm looking at the U.S.

00:15:31.000 national debt clock.

00:15:32.000 I was going to say, Taiwan's the crazy thing because I don't know how the U.S.

00:15:36.000 maintains a conflict with an island 90 miles off the coast of mainland China.

00:15:43.000 Yeah, I don't know.

00:15:43.000 What would you do, man?

00:15:45.000 I've heard rumors that the United States has special forces there.

00:15:51.000 Yeah, they recently sent a few hundred troops to Taiwan.

00:15:54.000 It's really the highest troop level since the U.S.

00:15:56.000 and China normalized relations because part of that deal was for the U.S.

00:16:00.000 to pull its troops out and its mutual defense treaty with Taiwan and eventually stop selling them weapons.

00:16:05.000 But the way they made that commitment was so vague that they'll tell you they can interpret it in 12 different ways.

00:16:11.000 A big part of it was pulling the troops out, and recently the U.S.

00:16:14.000 sent about one to two hundred troops, which doesn't sound like a lot, but if you're China, you know, it's very provocative to China.

00:16:20.000 And you mentioned sustaining a war.

00:16:22.000 Real quick, make a point.

00:16:23.000 Imagine if China stationed 100 troops in Cuba.

00:16:26.000 China has actual police forces inside the United States!

00:16:31.000 That's a good point!

00:16:33.000 They're not policing regular Americans, but they're policing Chinese Americans. 0.97

00:16:37.000 Yeah, what's the story with that?

00:16:38.000 Because I've heard about that.

00:16:41.000 I think them calling it police stations is a pretty dramatic way to describe it.

00:16:47.000 It's Chinese law enforcement operating out of the United States with offices to go to Chinese citizens living in the United States and arrest them for crimes against China.

00:16:55.000 From what I understand, that's not what it is.

00:16:57.000 Again, this is something I don't really know about.

00:16:58.000 The FBI said what it was.

00:17:00.000 Okay.

00:17:00.000 I'm not a big fan of the FBI.

00:17:01.000 The FBI says a lot of things.

00:17:02.000 Right, yeah.

00:17:03.000 From what I understand, they have these kind of like offices where they that are, you know, on paper, you know, they say that they're there to help Chinese Americans like with certain documents and stuff.

00:17:14.000 And then they might be going after dissidents through those offices.

00:17:17.000 Yeah.

00:17:18.000 Which a lot of countries do. 0.77

00:17:19.000 I mean, India might have killed a Sikh in Canada.

00:17:22.000 You know, if that was China that killed a Uyghur in Canada, we would be talking about that every day. 1.00

00:17:26.000 Yeah.

00:17:27.000 But India, kind of, you know, the U.S.

00:17:29.000 is looking at India as this new partner in containing China.

00:17:31.000 This is from New York.

00:17:32.000 New York Post says that they've opened four police stations, Chinese, in North America.

00:17:36.000 Three of them are in Toronto, one's in New York City.

00:17:38.000 But, you know, I know they do... What does that mean, a police station?

00:17:42.000 To target Chinese-Americans for infractions. 0.78

00:17:47.000 Who knows?

00:17:47.000 So maybe one thing on paper and another thing... But I want to stress this.

00:17:50.000 I think it's fair to say that there's definitely a very warped perspective on what China is like for Americans.

00:17:57.000 Yeah.

00:17:57.000 And I think we often get people saying like get on, you know, Laowai or Serpentza to come on and talk about China.

00:18:03.000 You go to a Chinese city and you're gonna go to Pizza Hut and you're gonna have a slice of pizza.

00:18:05.000 Like, these things exist.

00:18:07.000 There's competing interest and power at play and there's no saints.

00:18:11.000 There's no saints and there's no saviors.

00:18:12.000 I get the vibe.

00:18:13.000 I've been to Shanghai.

00:18:14.000 It was awesome.

00:18:15.000 Did you get the stuffed crust with the hot dog in it?

00:18:17.000 No.

00:18:18.000 See, that's what I'm talking about.

00:18:19.000 You go to China, and this is what concerns me. 0.67

00:18:21.000 You go to Pizza Hut, I think it's Pizza Hut, and they will stuff your crust with anything, including hot dogs.

00:18:26.000 I get the vibe that they're way more allied and aligned with the United States than, like, the Iranians. 0.99

00:18:33.000 Like, the Chinese are severely oligarchic businessmen. 1.00

00:18:37.000 They don't want conflict or war destruction.

00:18:38.000 They want to improve, improve, improve, and they want to buy us out, if anything.

00:18:43.000 You are correct.

00:18:44.000 The Chinese try to cut deals with American politicians to gain power. 0.98

00:18:47.000 They want to buy land.

00:18:48.000 They want to use soft power to expand.

00:18:50.000 Whereas Iran, very different. 0.97

00:18:52.000 And I'm using Iran as an example, but the people that have been heavily radicalized in the Middle East from all these bombings and things.

00:18:57.000 Well, the people that have been heavily radicalized in the Middle East are radicalized for multiple different reasons.

00:19:02.000 The Chinese, like Tim said, it's all soft power, but they still want to be able to influence, and they want to be, you know, they're using soft power, but it is to have the United States have policies that benefit China, whether they be indirectly or directly benefiting China, you know? 0.79

00:19:19.000 But China, I mean, China, the really scary thing about Taiwan, so you mentioned sustaining a war right off China's coast.

00:19:25.000 If you look at the think tanks have been putting out these war games and about what a battle would be like, the first battle over Taiwan, like the first few weeks, and they never consider nuclear escalation.

00:19:35.000 So this is the really scary part about China is that our Pentagon, our military leaders, you hear them say they're openly planning for a direct war with China.

00:19:44.000 They're saying they're trying to deter war, but if it happens, they're going to take them head on.

00:19:47.000 They have nukes.

00:19:48.000 But anyway, with the war games, again, they don't take into account nuclear escalation.

00:19:52.000 But besides that, in the first few weeks, a naval battle over Taiwan, thousands and thousands of American sailors will be killed.

00:19:59.000 Scott Horton recently just interviewed Lyle Goldstein.

00:20:02.000 He worked at the Naval War College for 20 years.

00:20:04.000 He speaks Chinese.

00:20:05.000 He's an expert on this.

00:20:06.000 He was saying he thinks tens of thousands of American sailors would be killed in the first few weeks.

00:20:12.000 Well, there was a... we talked about this, I think, the other day that China does a war game and in every single scenario a US carrier gets sunk.

00:20:19.000 Yeah, if you have boats on the surface... It's really the same result.

00:20:24.000 We gotta do like a war game, like a D&D style war game.

00:20:27.000 That'd be fun.

00:20:27.000 That'd be really cool.

00:20:28.000 Oh, we talked about doing this.

00:20:29.000 We should do two.

00:20:30.000 We should do World War III and Civil War and do like a two hour long D&D session style thing. 0.52

00:20:35.000 Yeah, those sound fun.

00:20:37.000 These boats!

00:20:38.000 We should bring you and Scott and you guys can be... We'll be like, no guys!

00:20:41.000 No, you'll be the neocons.

00:20:42.000 Everybody get along, man!

00:20:43.000 You know, you're gonna roleplay as the neocons.

00:20:45.000 Okay, yeah, that sounds fun.

00:20:46.000 I think you know them well enough and you're gonna be like, WAR! 0.98

00:20:48.000 Scott's gonna be like, I'm John Bolton.

00:20:50.000 There's like a World War III RPG, like 2020 or something, 2030, I don't know.

00:20:55.000 I used to play it in the 90s, or we had the book.

00:20:58.000 But see, boats!

00:20:59.000 Boats are so vulnerable to hypersonic missiles now, especially boats that are close to the Chinese land.

00:21:04.000 They're sitting targets.

00:21:05.000 And that's what China's been preparing for, is a war right there.

00:21:07.000 Someone just sent me an email or tweeted at me, there's an injunction.

00:21:14.000 The state of Texas got an injunction on the federal government for what they were doing.

00:21:18.000 It says the date on it is, one second, filed 10-27-23.

00:21:24.000 So this, they said, was from last week.

00:21:27.000 It's possible that this video is from before.

00:21:29.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:21:30.000 This is probably what caused the injunction, caused them to seek the injunction.

00:21:34.000 So that's to the state of Texas?

00:21:36.000 The state of Texas got an injunction on the federal government to get them to stop Basically knocking down the borders so that way illegal immigrants can come into the country. 1.00

00:21:45.000 Maybe not treason, but they're definitely attacking state authority by going into Texas and messing them up.

00:21:49.000 It's not that.

00:21:49.000 They're aiding and abetting people who are not citizens who are committing crimes against our nation.

00:21:55.000 Yeah.

00:21:55.000 Because technically the feds are supposed to take care of the border, right?

00:21:59.000 Like not the state of Texas.

00:22:01.000 Because it's an international border.

00:22:02.000 So the federal government has jurisdiction.

00:22:04.000 And they're totally abdicating their authority.

00:22:07.000 Not only abdicating it, but also violating it.

00:22:14.000 They're not doing their job.

00:22:15.000 And they're making it worse, too.

00:22:16.000 It's not that they're just not there, it's that they're in there cutting the barbed wires and letting people in.

00:22:20.000 It's crazy.

00:22:21.000 My apologies.

00:22:22.000 I pulled up the U.S.

00:22:23.000 National Debt Clock a little while ago.

00:22:24.000 If you haven't been to usdebtclock.org, pull it up in a different tab.

00:22:28.000 We're printing $100,000 every three seconds of debt.

00:22:29.000 $100,000 every three seconds.

00:22:34.000 That's a million dollars every 30 seconds.

00:22:35.000 Two million dollars a minute.

00:22:36.000 Probably going to be a quintillion dollars in our lifetime.

00:22:39.000 I love how Thomas Massey wears the pin.

00:22:42.000 Yeah, it actively calculates the national debt.

00:22:44.000 He just gave one to Ron Paul.

00:22:45.000 It made me very happy.

00:22:46.000 I love that guy, Thomas Massey.

00:22:48.000 But people don't understand what this means because they're like, what does that mean?

00:22:51.000 I don't know anything about that.

00:22:52.000 Like, I have my money.

00:22:53.000 It means that right now, you want to buy a house?

00:22:56.000 You're not going to be able to.

00:22:57.000 It means that your milk that you buy today is going to cost twice as much tomorrow.

00:23:01.000 That's if nothing changes, if we're on this, stay on this track forever.

00:23:04.000 We can alter our gross domestic production capacity by pivoting to hydrogen fuel.

00:23:10.000 I actually talked with James Tour today.

00:23:11.000 Look at this.

00:23:12.000 Currents, okay, so the current U.S.

00:23:14.000 money supply is $20.6 trillion.

00:23:17.000 U.S.

00:23:18.000 treasury dollars is $1.5 trillion, and the currency and credit derivatives is $634 trillion.

00:23:25.000 Wait, no, no, no.

00:23:26.000 Is that, yeah, trillion dollars. 1.00

00:23:28.000 Damn. 0.99

00:23:28.000 $600 trillion? 0.99

00:23:31.000 Uh, yeah, a trillion.

00:23:33.000 Well, when you hear numbers like that, it's just like, what it, you know, it's like, what does that even mean?

00:23:37.000 The only time that anyone has ever used those numbers outside of the national debt is in, like, physics.

00:23:44.000 When you're talking about the numbers of, like, particles in the universe, you know, it's like, it takes that kind of Like something that massive.

00:23:54.000 Otherwise, these numbers are completely and totally impractical.

00:23:58.000 The human mind can't even comprehend it.

00:24:00.000 And it's the rate of change that's also where it becomes highly impractical.

00:24:04.000 You guys ready for this?

00:24:06.000 The U.S.

00:24:06.000 federal debt-to-GDP ratio was 124.43%.

00:24:08.000 In 1980, it was 34.

00:24:09.000 Remember 1980?

00:24:09.000 I wasn't alive.

00:24:09.000 four point four three percent in nineteen eighty it was thirty four remember number

00:24:14.000 nineteen eighty i was alive around about the uh... jimmy carter era john lennon

00:24:19.000 John Lennon died in December of 1980.

00:24:20.000 What did you say it was in 1980?

00:24:25.000 The 34.7.

00:24:25.000 Oh, okay.

00:24:26.000 And I believe 80 was Carter, right?

00:24:29.000 Yeah.

00:24:30.000 Or was that when he was getting out?

00:24:32.000 Yeah, Reagan was elected in 80.

00:24:33.000 Right.

00:24:34.000 Or 79 and then was put into office in 80 or something like that.

00:24:37.000 Or it's 80-81, I think.

00:24:38.000 Maybe, yeah.

00:24:39.000 And you know, I can't verify that this website's actually legit either.

00:24:41.000 I never have been able to verify it.

00:24:43.000 The debt?

00:24:44.000 This is all public data, yeah.

00:24:46.000 And then I remember it was a big deal because one day it put, like, Jesus Christ is Lord on the front page and you had to, like, exit out to see.

00:24:53.000 And people were like, wow, like, conservatives were all like, whoa, holy crap, because this is, like, a big website.

00:24:59.000 Something like that happened.

00:25:00.000 It was recently, I think.

00:25:01.000 Look at this, the interest on the debt, $676 billion.

00:25:07.000 That's not even that much.

00:25:08.000 Is that a lot of money?

00:25:09.000 I thought it was going to be way more than that.

00:25:11.000 The interest on the debt is going up.

00:25:14.000 Debts I've always considered... No, I think this is specifically for, um, the interest on the debt is for Medicare, Social Security, and Defense.

00:25:21.000 Wow.

00:25:22.000 But the issue is that's not the debt.

00:25:23.000 That's the interest on top.

00:25:25.000 It's going up.

00:25:26.000 We're not paying that down.

00:25:27.000 As Ian often brings up, if the interest keeps going up, you can't pay back more interest by taking another loan.

00:25:33.000 To pay back, you get more interest.

00:25:34.000 Yep.

00:25:35.000 We need to increase the value of our dollar is what we need to do worldwide.

00:25:38.000 We need a gold standard.

00:25:39.000 Yeah, or, I'm big into hydrogen fuel, because if we can start producing things that are valuable, and graphene, because if we can start producing things that we can sell around the world, graphene's like $60,000 a ton, and they are just churning it out at Rice University right now.

00:25:53.000 Or, you know, what is that stuff, that like blue crab blood or whatever, you know what I'm talking about?

00:25:56.000 Blue crude.

00:25:58.000 Is that what they call it?

00:25:59.000 Horseshoe crab blood?

00:26:00.000 It's like the most expensive material in the world or something?

00:26:02.000 I'm from Long Island, and we just had... Every once in a while, some random horseshoe crab genocide would happen or something, and they'd just be all over the beach.

00:26:12.000 And I always hear that it's worth money, their blood, and I'm like, man, I should have been collecting their blood when I was a kid.

00:26:17.000 Those are like the blue horseshoe crabs or whatever, and they hook them all up to tubes and extract blood slowly, and it's like...

00:26:23.000 I don't know what the deal is, but I've seen that.

00:26:26.000 Antibacterial, it's valued in the medical industry.

00:26:28.000 But we need, like, when you talk about a dollar, like, I'm a libertarian, so we're always talking about the gold standard, but, you know, we could have a different commodity-based dollar.

00:26:36.000 There are different things that can back the dollar.

00:26:38.000 Hey, we can go to 2027, we can go to the future.

00:26:40.000 Based on all these projections, where we'll be.

00:26:42.000 Oh, give it to me.

00:26:44.000 Oh my god.

00:26:45.000 I love this.

00:26:46.000 Four years from now.

00:26:47.000 Four years from now, the average family is going to have $100,000 in their savings.

00:26:51.000 That is really bad.

00:26:53.000 That is not good.

00:26:55.000 It says today that the average family has $11,000.

00:26:56.000 Yep.

00:26:57.000 And it says it's going to be 10x in four years.

00:27:00.000 And if the debt to GDP ratio goes from 124, 124% to 150%, that means the buying, just a general correlation's not perfect, but that 10x increase in how much money you have correlates with like a 12 times decrease in your buying power.

00:27:16.000 Spend your dollars, get rid of them, buy even, like I know that like there's people that- That sounds like financial advice, Phil.

00:27:22.000 Oh yeah, well, I'm not giving you any financial advice.

00:27:26.000 I like to spend dollars and get things that are valuable.

00:27:30.000 I know that whether it be Bitcoin or gold or silver or ammo or whatever.

00:27:35.000 Property?

00:27:36.000 Land is great.

00:27:38.000 I think that I'm going to be buying things that are going to retain value or go up in value.

00:27:44.000 I'm probably not going to be hanging on to very much cash.

00:27:47.000 I like to invest in machines that I can use to increase my income, my profitability, things like that.

00:27:51.000 A really good camera, a really good microphone if you use it.

00:27:54.000 I mean, look, I'm not...

00:27:56.000 Assets per citizen 1.2 million.

00:27:59.000 I ain't telling you what to do, but electronics don't hold their value.

00:28:02.000 Yeah, but you use it in the short term to increase productivity.

00:28:05.000 Sure.

00:28:05.000 Fair enough.

00:28:06.000 I've turned into like a Civil War nerd since I moved to Virginia, because there's like a million battlefields where I live.

00:28:11.000 And there's signs everywhere, you notice them?

00:28:12.000 It's really cool.

00:28:13.000 You'll go to a dock to launch a fishing boat, and there's a sign like, this is where this general killed this general.

00:28:18.000 I live near Petersburg, and it was like almost a year's long siege around the city, so there's battles everywhere.

00:28:23.000 But it's got me kind of collecting like old antiques, and that's actually a really good investment, is like really old antiques.

00:28:30.000 Like a Charizard.

00:28:31.000 They really go up in value.

00:28:33.000 I used to have so many.

00:28:35.000 The crazy thing is, I think I had probably like five first edition Charizards when I was a kid.

00:28:40.000 And they were, like, worth a little bit.

00:28:41.000 I don't even know what happened to them.

00:28:42.000 They're all gone.

00:28:43.000 But now they're worth, like, $10,000 to $20,000.

00:28:46.000 Have you checked your attic?

00:28:47.000 Did Beanie Babies ever get... I have not.

00:28:49.000 I lost all of my older Magic cards.

00:28:51.000 That was brutal one day.

00:28:52.000 On a train.

00:28:53.000 I was... We were on a train and I was... Like, I fell asleep.

00:28:56.000 And then they're like, Oh, we're at our stop.

00:28:58.000 Get up.

00:28:58.000 And I get up and jump off the train and I go... I turn back and the door closes and I'm like, Oh, my card's gone.

00:29:03.000 And that's probably 100 grand worth of Magic Cards gone.

00:29:05.000 Now, yeah.

00:29:06.000 They're really worth that much now?

00:29:07.000 Yeah.

00:29:08.000 But because the cards back then were not that valuable, but we're talking 25, 24 years, now they're all extremely rare and out of print and more valuable.

00:29:21.000 I wonder what an Alpha Black Lotus is.

00:29:22.000 What?

00:29:24.000 1.2 million dollars for an Alpha Black Lotus?

00:29:27.000 Was it like rated 10?

00:29:28.000 Yeah, 9.5.

00:29:29.000 Is that a Magic Card?

00:29:30.000 Yeah.

00:29:30.000 It's the most valuable Magic Card.

00:29:34.000 1.2 million.

00:29:34.000 That thing was like $600,000.

00:29:35.000 Yeah, but you're probably looking at a special auction because a rated 8 is $140,000.

00:29:40.000 Okay.

00:29:41.000 That's crazy.

00:29:45.000 Wow. 0.99

00:29:46.000 $1,000,000 for a freaking piece of cardboard. 0.66

00:29:47.000 It was $700,000 when I was a kid and we were like, wow, $700,000. 0.88

00:29:51.000 That's crazy.

00:29:52.000 Man.

00:29:54.000 Wow.

00:29:54.000 Who knows what's going to be worth money, you know what I'm saying?

00:29:56.000 That's the thing.

00:29:57.000 Do you remember the Beanie Babies?

00:29:58.000 Everybody was like, oh, these are going to be worth something one day, but I don't think they ever were.

00:30:01.000 Nope.

00:30:02.000 That was a tulip thing.

00:30:03.000 That was a Dutch tulip fiasco.

00:30:05.000 But, Phil, I think a cool thing for you to, like, spend money on and collect, you could get antique, like, firearms from, like, the 1800s.

00:30:12.000 Yeah.

00:30:12.000 And they look awesome, and you can mount them on your wall, and they just grow in value.

00:30:18.000 Oh, wow.

00:30:18.000 That's an actual Union Civil War rifled musket.

00:30:21.000 Yeah, that's awesome.

00:30:22.000 I have a breechloader.

00:30:24.000 I forget the name of it.

00:30:25.000 That's what I need.

00:30:26.000 Breachloader, breechloading rifle from the Civil War.

00:30:29.000 I have a pinfire revolver, which is kind of a rare type.

00:30:33.000 Pinfire, like it had a little pin that stuck out of it and the hammer would hit the pin and that's what would fire the shell.

00:30:38.000 Oh, wow.

00:30:39.000 Yeah, they didn't really, they weren't around for long, but Calvary officers had them on the Union and Confederate side.

00:30:45.000 So it's pretty cool.

00:30:46.000 It's like, I got, I bought it for like 800 bucks a few years ago, and it's just... They used, uh... You know, the longer you hold on to it, the more valuable it gets.

00:30:51.000 I think the revolvers back then were, uh, the more ubiquitous was the percussion cap, and that's so, like, little metal primer goes in the back of, you know, each chamber, and then it hits the primer, which ignites the musket ball or whatever, whatever they were using.

00:31:06.000 The bullet at the time.

00:31:06.000 Yeah.

00:31:08.000 And then we've actually got some actual Civil War bullets because, uh, we have a Civil War bayonet somewhere.

00:31:13.000 Yeah, we found it on the property.

00:31:13.000 Oh, yeah?

00:31:14.000 Yeah.

00:31:15.000 And it's all rusted and, you know, and we're just like, Oh, whatever.

00:31:18.000 They're all over the place.

00:31:19.000 Yeah.

00:31:19.000 Super cool.

00:31:20.000 I've been metal detected on my property because there's a battle.

00:31:24.000 I'm wondering what relics people will find from the next civil war.

00:31:27.000 So they're going to find, you know, magic cards, iPhone 15.

00:31:30.000 And, uh, my, uh, my buddy back in New Hampshire, he does a lot of metal detecting and, He's trying to get into off-limit places because, you know, New England's been around a long time, so people have done a lot of hunting and stuff, so he's trying to find places where he's not allowed that he can sneak into.

00:31:49.000 I won't blow him up.

00:31:51.000 I'm kind of like, yeah, if we sit around and just kind of complain for the next six months, it could be the end of the world.

00:31:57.000 But if we really pioneer new tech, like hydrogen tech, and really push it, really push it, we could probably come out of this on top.

00:32:05.000 It depends.

00:32:06.000 So, if what we're facing right now is actually a legitimate threat of World War 3, the population decrease from war and from the fact that people don't have kids means what you're hoping for is less likely to occur.

00:32:18.000 Technological expansion typically requires population expansion.

00:32:23.000 Like, how many people does it take to make one monitor screen?

00:32:27.000 It's probably like 500 different specialties to make one computer monitor.

00:32:32.000 But because of the international economy and how everything operates, someone gets cobalt here, and someone gets, you know, quartz here, and someone mines the oil or drills for the oil over here, and then they all go on these different marketplaces.

00:32:46.000 I think a really good example is probably just like Pad Thai.

00:32:48.000 Or something, some like ridiculous dish that has a spice from Asia and a vegetable from Mexico, and you're like, this unnatural demonic food would never exist were it not for our big oil tankers.

00:33:01.000 You know, our big cargo ships around the oceans to bring all these ingredients together.

00:33:05.000 That's true.

00:33:05.000 If the population declines too much, you lose specialties, and then you're gonna have a guy who's gonna be like, look man, we need someone who can extract hydrogen, but we don't have that anymore.

00:33:16.000 So I can work on that, but then we don't have a guy who handles the plastics.

00:33:19.000 We don't have a guy who handles the electronics.

00:33:22.000 Ian, you're worried about, like, World War III bringing the world to an end, or is there something else you're worried about?

00:33:28.000 Is it World War that's got you nervous?

00:33:30.000 Yeah, because, you know, for what I do, I basically read, you know, all day every day I sort through, like, hundreds of news articles and read about this, uh...

00:33:30.000 Yeah.

00:33:38.000 You know, war in Ukraine, tensions with China, and all that.

00:33:40.000 And I don't like to be hyperbolic in my show and stuff, but I always say, like, if we wake up tomorrow and Russia bombed a NATO base in Poland and we're actually at war with Russia, or if a Chinese ship and an American ship shot at each other in the South China Sea and then it escalated and all of a sudden we're at war with China, You know, don't be surprised. 0.87

00:34:01.000 We shouldn't be surprised, because at the state of the world that we're in right now, they're just pushing everybody all over the planet.

00:34:07.000 It's really... It is very scary.

00:34:11.000 And again, I don't try to be over-hyperbolic, but what they're doing, they're leading us down a path of Global War, the likes of which, you know, we've never seen, especially with new technology.

00:34:21.000 And I, I, I always, I always want to stress too, because especially when we had, uh, you know, I'll shout it again, Culture War Podcast, you do become slash Timcast.

00:34:28.000 Uh, Steven Marsh and I were talking before the show started, because he was, I showed him the Civil War rifle.

00:34:32.000 And he was like, what was the first, the first battle?

00:34:34.000 And I was like, uh, Bull Run, Manassas.

00:34:37.000 And he was like, right, right.

00:34:38.000 And they didn't even think it was, it wasn't even a battle.

00:34:39.000 It was like a street fight.

00:34:40.000 Like nobody knew what was going on.

00:34:41.000 And I'm like, Yes.

00:34:43.000 What we consider to be the first battle.

00:34:45.000 I mean, obviously Fort Sumter is the start of it, but that wasn't even a battle.

00:34:48.000 It was like only one guy died and it was an accident.

00:34:51.000 I don't think anybody died.

00:34:52.000 One guy.

00:34:53.000 It was one death.

00:34:53.000 It was an accident?

00:34:54.000 It was accidental.

00:34:54.000 It was like, I can't remember exactly what happened.

00:34:56.000 But then you had the first battle of Bull Run and no one thought the fight was actually going to happen.

00:35:03.000 And at the time when it did happen, nobody called it the Civil War.

00:35:07.000 Nobody called it the war in the States.

00:35:09.000 It was not a war at all.

00:35:11.000 Now we look back and say, what?

00:35:12.000 Both sides thought it would be over so quick.

00:35:13.000 So it's possible.

00:35:15.000 That, in a hundred years, they say World War III started December of 2022.

00:35:19.000 Yeah.

00:35:20.000 It's possible they say it started with the Russian invasion of Ukraine.

00:35:24.000 I tend to think of it as 9-11, personally.

00:35:28.000 The US was just stomping on everyone's neck for the first 18 years of it. 0.98

00:35:31.000 Yeah, but bro, the US has been doing that for a lot longer than- But 9-11 changed, like, lockdown, police state crap, you know, Patriot Act, people were getting, you know, take your shoes off at the airport kind of crap, looking over your shoulder, afraid of Muslims, like all this dumb I'll tell you. 0.96

00:35:45.000 So just an anecdote about when I went to China, I remember getting in or I was getting on the plane to fly.

00:35:51.000 I forget where we were flying next, but I was all nervous going through their security.

00:35:55.000 I was like, I'm going to have to take my shoes off.

00:35:57.000 They're going to really go crazy and pat me down.

00:35:57.000 It's China.

00:35:59.000 And I started like taking my belt off and they're just like, come on, come on through.

00:36:02.000 And they just like hit me with the wand.

00:36:04.000 And I was like, Oh wow.

00:36:05.000 And then when we got back into the U S my wife bought like some hand cream in Australia and they put it in like a special bag and they were like, you can't, I mean, I don't know if it's the remnants of 9-11.

00:36:14.000 shook her down and like ripped apart all her stuff and said she couldn't bring it

00:36:17.000 in or if she wanted to she had to like mail it to it was crazy I'm like this is

00:36:21.000 just the remnants of 9-11 of what they did to us after that it hasn't gone away.

00:36:26.000 I mean I don't know if it's the remnants of 9-11 there the thing that we're

00:36:31.000 experiencing is not actually about stopping terrorism.

00:36:37.000 Yeah.

00:36:37.000 It's the it's the fact that once you start a government program, they never go away.

00:36:42.000 It's the infrastructure for the TSA that was designed for, you know, designed initially to stop terrorism.

00:36:50.000 Never stopped a thing.

00:36:51.000 It's an addiction.

00:36:52.000 Yeah.

00:36:53.000 So what happens is the U.S.

00:36:54.000 government says, we're going to spend $100 million on war.

00:36:56.000 They invest in all these companies.

00:36:58.000 The companies build up a big employee base.

00:36:59.000 They hire a bunch of people.

00:37:01.000 Next year comes around, and that company goes to Congress and says, are you going to give us that same deal again?

00:37:05.000 And they go, well, I don't think we need it.

00:37:06.000 There's no war.

00:37:07.000 And they go, listen, We employ 500 people in your district.

00:37:11.000 And if we don't have this contract, we're firing them.

00:37:14.000 And we're going to tell them it's because of you.

00:37:15.000 No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:37:16.000 You got my vote.

00:37:17.000 Yeah.

00:37:17.000 You got my vote.

00:37:18.000 So what we got to do is make hit music.

00:37:18.000 Yep.

00:37:23.000 I'm talking like Marvin Gaye.

00:37:26.000 We need to make babies and we need to inspire people to have sex and have children. 0.99

00:37:31.000 And that's music.

00:37:32.000 That's like, because if we have kids, it's not enough.

00:37:34.000 You need to, you need to mass produce love.

00:37:38.000 And we need to make hydrogen fuel and graphene to get out of this steel hellhole that we're in and start making lightweight superconductors locally really fast and cheaply.

00:37:49.000 I gotta stop right here.

00:37:50.000 Ian is completely correct on graphene.

00:37:54.000 Because steel was such a large component of our industry, of our jobs, of our economy.

00:38:00.000 The Steelers.

00:38:01.000 Pittsburgh.

00:38:02.000 How much steel is still being made in the U.S.?

00:38:04.000 I do not believe very much.

00:38:06.000 But either way, if we had an industrial revolution on par with what it was in the past, and we bring back a bunch of jobs, you could have manufacturing plants pop up all over the place.

00:38:17.000 It could revitalize dying towns.

00:38:19.000 It could create new cities.

00:38:21.000 And it's going to have to be You know, we often do joke about graphene and Ian's fervor, but the reality is it is a bold move to reconfigure an economy towards building a material that can be used to expand and create a bunch of new products.

00:38:40.000 My favorite example...

00:38:41.000 A lot of the stuff we use, plastics for instance, and I think paper towels, a bunch of stuff, were invented for space.

00:38:48.000 So, like, a lot of the things we use are invented by... Space race. 0.82

00:38:51.000 Yeah, the space race.

00:38:52.000 And then it's like, oh, this is convenient, people might want to use it.

00:38:56.000 We can't just sit here and be like, let's just keep doing the same thing we've always done.

00:39:00.000 We need to be like, guys, we should be, we're doing, we have the CHIPS Act, we're making silicon chips in Arizona now, or we're starting to, that's great.

00:39:08.000 We should have a, in some way, it's gonna require, I believe most of the private sector, which means a cultural shift, Where we get someone who goes, I want to bring together a bunch of financial institutions and invest a hundred billion dollars in manufacturing plants for graphene, we're going to employ five million people in the United States, and we're going to be exporting a building material and superconductor, which is going to be in major demand around the world, that will massively increase, benefit the U.S.

00:39:08.000 That's a great idea.

00:39:39.000 economy.

00:39:40.000 Yeah, the Department of Defense is working with scientists at Rice University to pump this stuff out, graphene.

00:39:45.000 I think for every $4.50 of graphene, you get a kilogram of hydrogen fuel.

00:39:49.000 And so they're actually getting, they're making money to produce.

00:39:52.000 Before it was like it cost a dollar, it cost $3 to make a kilogram of hydrogen.

00:39:55.000 Now, you're getting $4.50 to produce a kilogram of hydrogen.

00:39:58.000 It's right in front of us.

00:40:00.000 So I interviewed James Tour today, the leading chemist, one of the leading chemists on Earth that's producing this stuff.

00:40:05.000 It's an hour of us talking about it.

00:40:07.000 He gets really, we scratch the surface and do highly influential explanations.

00:40:13.000 Go to my YouTube channel and check it out.

00:40:14.000 It's the first video you'll see.

00:40:15.000 It's James Tour.

00:40:16.000 This guy's phenomenal.

00:40:18.000 We're right on the precipice, man.

00:40:19.000 Now we just got to hold it together and inspire people.

00:40:22.000 I'm kind of at a loss of what it is that you think graphene is going to do.

00:40:27.000 You can put it in cement.

00:40:29.000 That doesn't matter.

00:40:30.000 There's a lot of things.

00:40:31.000 Watch the video if you want to hear more.

00:40:33.000 What does steel do?

00:40:34.000 Well, steel is used for all kinds of stuff.

00:40:36.000 Like what?

00:40:36.000 It reinforces concrete.

00:40:38.000 And graphene does that?

00:40:39.000 You can put it in concrete.

00:40:40.000 It makes it lighter and three times more durable.

00:40:43.000 And it's, so we use lithium ion batteries for our phones.

00:40:48.000 They're actually starting to create a graphene polymer, or lithium graphene batteries.

00:40:54.000 Graphene layer in the battery creates a, what's the word?

00:40:58.000 A lattice?

00:41:00.000 A unilateral charge.

00:41:01.000 So it charges from every point all at once, which charges the battery much more quickly.

00:41:04.000 So graphene, it conducts electricity?

00:41:06.000 It's a superconductor!

00:41:08.000 So whereas a cell phone would take 15 minutes to charge in the past, it'll now take 5.

00:41:13.000 We actually bought a bunch of these a year ago.

00:41:16.000 Portable batteries.

00:41:17.000 When you plug your phone in, it'll charge your phone from 0 to full in 10 minutes.

00:41:22.000 I'm sorry, I'm sorry.

00:41:23.000 It can hold a full cell phone charge after only 10 or so minutes.

00:41:27.000 Your phone, whether or not you have the graphene polymer batteries or the graphene lithium, I don't remember what it's called.

00:41:34.000 But they're putting them in batteries.

00:41:36.000 They think that this technology in electric car batteries means you'll pull your car up to the pump at the gas station, plug in the supercharger, and you'll literally watch the charge go up like a gas tank.

00:41:45.000 Wow.

00:41:46.000 They used to, they were like, how do we make this stuff, Graphene, for the last 20 years?

00:41:49.000 How do we make a chemical vapor deposition?

00:41:50.000 They're trying to deposit carbon dioxide onto copper and get it, and you get these strips.

00:41:54.000 they figured out what's called flash jewel graphing production you put you hit it with electrical

00:41:59.000 current any carbon on earth you get all these different plastics they used to

00:42:03.000 have to recycle them and keep pull them apart as different plastics recycle

00:42:06.000 differently any carbon all the plastic together

00:42:08.000 the human feces plants matter any carbon and you hit it with electricity and turn

00:42:13.000 it into graphene and then this guy i'm actually gonna be uh...

00:42:17.000 uh... interviewing the inventor dewey long so So, but let's bring it back to the debt, this country.

00:42:23.000 My point is, I will go along with Ian on graphene for one reason.

00:42:27.000 We need a manufacturing base.

00:42:29.000 We need the American people working on raw materials that we can use to build infrastructure.

00:42:33.000 Steel, for a long time.

00:42:35.000 Not just steel, there's a lot of stuff we did in the United States.

00:42:37.000 We should drill baby drill. 1.00

00:42:38.000 We should invade Canada.

00:42:39.000 I'm sorry.

00:42:40.000 Well, we should invade.

00:42:41.000 I meant Alaska.

00:42:42.000 But Canada, yes too.

00:42:43.000 I mean, I'm only half kidding.

00:42:44.000 But no, we should invade and occupy Alaska.

00:42:47.000 We should not waste our- Here's what I think.

00:42:50.000 When we go and blow up people overseas, what we are doing is we are creating a global economy as hollow as a fiat dollar.

00:42:58.000 We provide you nothing other than, don't screw with us.

00:43:01.000 And as other countries say, your offers are hollow.

00:43:04.000 We only need protection from you! 0.59

00:43:06.000 If the U.S.

00:43:07.000 said, okay, we are going to bolster our manufacturing, develop new technologies, create a very strong, robust middle class that works in development of new technology and new infrastructure and new raw materials and metamaterials, we occupy Alaska, using our own land to rare earth minerals, for instance, stop doing dealings with China, we would then become that shining city on the hill, and other nations would say, we gotta be like them, we gotta do business with them.

00:43:34.000 Yeah, and if we're not, don't have a global empire.

00:43:36.000 We should be able to do those things without having this empire.

00:43:39.000 You mentioned the CHIPS Act.

00:43:42.000 So the problem with the CHIPS Act is that it's basically corporate subsidies, 50 billion dollars, which is adding to the debt.

00:43:48.000 You know, I think the answer isn't subsidizing this industry, which is something, you know, China does.

00:43:53.000 I think we should, you know, resort to more capitalism and deregulate and, you know, give people tax incentives and to start factories.

00:44:02.000 You know, they're actually getting a lot of the Taiwanese companies to build factories.

00:44:05.000 The things that you're going to have to do to get To get people to start businesses like that is, I don't know the first thing about making chips or anything, but I mean, between unions, minimum wages, the amount of things that you have to deregulate and pull back on, it's just astronomical.

00:44:25.000 Whereas I understand and agree with your point, I don't think that it's that bad to have the government try to do things to, tax breaks or whatever, to incentivize companies to start it.

00:44:36.000 But they're giving them billions of dollars.

00:44:38.000 Check out 50 Billion.

00:44:39.000 That's a lot of money.

00:44:40.000 I'd rather him give it to a company in the US than give it to Israel to drop bombs. 0.95

00:44:45.000 A lot of it's going to Taiwanese companies to bring them here.

00:44:49.000 Which I'm not sure the percentages, but I know some of it.

00:44:51.000 Because the big reason why we have companies that are doing things overseas and stuff is because of labor laws and because of regulations here.

00:44:59.000 Environmental regulations.

00:45:00.000 Yeah.

00:45:01.000 If you can roll those back, then there's an incentive for companies to start.

00:45:07.000 But as long as the federal government has the type of legislation or regulation that disincentivizes companies from starting, I mean, it's got to start it somehow.

00:45:17.000 And I want to correct you on one thing.

00:45:19.000 Not really correct, but I want to counter.

00:45:20.000 I want a strong, robust American empire that is achieved by being really cool, producing great products, being a great trade partner, not interfering in other countries' business and politics, but being so good at everything we do that they want to learn from us.

00:45:36.000 We want other countries to say, let us know what you need.

00:45:39.000 That new thing you guys are working on, your economy's really great, we all love America, we all want to be like America, your movies are awesome.

00:45:44.000 We want to win through cultural means, not bombing children.

00:45:48.000 Yeah, culture and science.

00:45:49.000 Those are my two favorites.

00:45:50.000 The U.S.

00:45:51.000 empire uses force in a lot of different ways.

00:45:54.000 You know, if countries elect a government that the U.S.

00:45:57.000 doesn't like, they start putting economic sanctions on them, you know, purposely to destroy their economy.

00:46:02.000 Yes, yes, but let's be fair.

00:46:04.000 The U.S.

00:46:04.000 also removes that government by force and then puts in a sock puppet government.

00:46:09.000 Sometimes, sometimes, but other times they just sanction the hell out of them.

00:46:13.000 And, you know, that's part of the reason why, you know, the U.S.

00:46:16.000 on the global stage right now, if you're like a developing country and you see the way the U.S.

00:46:20.000 operates, especially now, all for the past year and a half, you had Blinken, Biden talking about You know, lecturing Russia on the war in Ukraine, talking about this rules-based order, and now we see them fully backing Israel as they're just blowing up kids and everybody can see it for themselves. 0.62

00:46:35.000 It's just like the hypocrisy is very obvious to other countries.

00:46:38.000 But the funny thing about Russia and Ukraine is... 0.93

00:46:41.000 Russia is having a territorial dispute with a neighboring country.

00:46:45.000 The United States flew to the other side of the planet to invade Iraq and Afghanistan.

00:46:50.000 That's true.

00:46:51.000 And why was Iraq invaded?

00:46:52.000 Well, I guess it was WMDs, but 9-11 was kind of the pretext.

00:46:56.000 Why was Afghanistan invaded?

00:46:57.000 Well, because the Taliban were harboring Osama bin Laden, so we had to go and build a nation there, and then Russia invades a neighboring country over a border dispute, and we're like, whoa, whoa, hey, Hey there, wait a minute! 0.56

00:47:07.000 Condoleezza Rice, like a few days after, sorry if I got a little worked up there Ian, you looked a little startled.

00:47:12.000 I'm so into this.

00:47:13.000 Condoleezza Rice, a few days after Russia invaded, was on TV and was like, I forget exactly what she said, but Condoleezza Rice of the George W. Bush administration said, a country cannot invade another sovereign nation, or something like that.

00:47:27.000 And did you see, do you remember George W. Bush's little Freudian slip or whatever it was?

00:47:32.000 He was giving a speech and he was like, one man's decision to invade Iraq, I mean Ukraine, and then he kind of laughed and he was like, yeah, Iraq too.

00:47:42.000 That was a moment, man.

00:47:43.000 I watched that video like a hundred times. 1.00

00:47:46.000 This country is full of shit, unfortunately. 1.00

00:47:47.000 It's definitely somewhere in his brain, but... The founding fathers, I think if they saw what was going on, they'd be like, They'd be stacking bodies. 1.00

00:47:54.000 It's like your grandfather being like, son I gifted you this really nice car and you totaled it.

00:48:02.000 You know what I mean?

00:48:03.000 Yeah.

00:48:04.000 No, I want to stress this point, too.

00:48:06.000 The Founding Fathers notoriously just petitioned over and over again, and I think it's fair to say it was not the Americans who started the Revolutionary War.

00:48:17.000 It was the British imposing tyranny.

00:48:23.000 If we go straight to Lexington and Concord, They said, hand over your guns or else.

00:48:28.000 The Americans, the Founding Fathers were like, I'm gonna write a strongly worded letter to the King, and the King's like, screw off, I'll write another letter to the King.

00:48:34.000 And it was a year and a month after Lexington and Concord, they signed the Declaration of Independence.

00:48:40.000 So it's not like the Americans were like, it's time to stack bodies. 0.81

00:48:43.000 They were like, please, please, we're just trying to have some representation here.

00:48:49.000 Fair enough, but you know, Washington did cross the Delaware and kill everybody in their sleep.

00:48:54.000 But that's in the war.

00:48:56.000 My point is, America may be rebels, but when we started, we were not the dudes who decided to go and kill other people.

00:49:04.000 We were the dudes who honorably and reasonably said, listen, what you're doing is not working and we are telling you now, this has to change.

00:49:13.000 And if you don't listen to us, the change will come either way.

00:49:16.000 And then it was the Crown that was like, we're gonna come and put you down.

00:49:20.000 And then we said, we didn't start it, you did.

00:49:23.000 They came to Lexington and Concord and they said, we are going to come at you.

00:49:27.000 It was not Americans who went to England to fight, it was the Crown sending regulars to the colonies saying, we are going to impose our will from overseas on you and brought the guns and then demanded of the Americans.

00:49:39.000 I think The founders of this country were calm, rational, reasonable people who understood war was bad.

00:49:46.000 They did not want foreign entanglements. 1.00

00:49:48.000 I love reading about the Barbary Wars and Thomas Jefferson.

00:49:52.000 He's like, we don't want to be involved in any of this stuff.

00:49:54.000 Why are you attacking us?

00:49:56.000 What are the Barbary Wars?

00:49:57.000 Pirates, North Africa and Jefferson and other founding fathers, Adams, they're all basically just saying like, look man, we're just selling stuff.

00:49:57.000 This is cool.

00:50:05.000 We have no problem with any of you.

00:50:07.000 Why don't you leave us alone? 1.00

00:50:08.000 And they're like, screw you. 1.00

00:50:09.000 They said to the, it was, they said to the, to the, in England, they said to the, the United States representative, they said the Quran gives us the, the, Approval and authorization to kill you and take your stuff because you are infidels. 1.00

00:50:09.000 We do what we want. 1.00

00:50:23.000 And so Thomas Jefferson created the United States Marine Corps.

00:50:28.000 And that was the risk.

00:50:29.000 The response was send in the Marines.

00:50:30.000 So the Marines have been fighting for the country for as long as there has been a country.

00:50:35.000 This is the Barbary War, a series of two wars fought by the United States, Sweden, and the King of Sicily against the Barbary States, Tunis, Algiers, and Tripoli.

00:50:42.000 Yeah.

00:50:43.000 And Morocco.

00:50:43.000 So you made a point.

00:50:45.000 Oh, sorry.

00:50:46.000 The United States Marine Corps, the Marine Corps hymn, there's the line that says, to the shores of Tripoli, that's what it's referencing.

00:50:54.000 From the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli, the Marine Corps fought for the United States.

00:50:59.000 That's a good song.

00:51:00.000 All right.

00:51:01.000 I remember you made the point before we started recording that, like, you favor, you know, the U.S.

00:51:06.000 could have a strong Navy and kind of police the waters a bit and work with their trading partners to counter piracy.

00:51:12.000 And I think that is a completely legitimate, you know, foreign policy to have, just to have a Navy and fight piracy with your trading partners.

00:51:20.000 But we're just so far from that.

00:51:22.000 We're, you know, meddling in every country around the world.

00:51:26.000 We're not anything close to that.

00:51:27.000 A lot of people like to point to the Barbary Wars as an example of how all the Founding Fathers actually were not non-interventionists, but they were responding to their property being attacked.

00:51:37.000 So it is completely different.

00:51:38.000 They were protecting Americans, yeah.

00:51:40.000 Yeah, and so this is a completely different analogy from what you were talking about, about how the British brought the war here.

00:51:47.000 My point was, the Founding Fathers' attitude was like, hey, let's just mind our own business.

00:51:52.000 We're going to do our thing here, you leave us alone.

00:51:55.000 And now, the mentality of the United States is, we offer nothing but we take.

00:52:00.000 So, what I imagine the United States is doing with the current empire, it's like a piece of bubble gum.

00:52:06.000 It's being blown up and blown up and blown up, but we know what happens.

00:52:09.000 Eventually, it gets thinner and thinner and thinner, and then it pops.

00:52:13.000 There is nothing within this bubble.

00:52:14.000 It is hollow.

00:52:15.000 The United States cannot exist by simply going out with guns and saying, we get to do this.

00:52:21.000 We can invade Iraq and Afghanistan, but Russia better not invade anybody else. 0.82

00:52:24.000 To be fair, Russia shouldn't invade Ukraine.

00:52:27.000 But the U.S.

00:52:28.000 has no more leg to stand on.

00:52:30.000 What the U.S.

00:52:31.000 should do, the U.S.

00:52:32.000 should have some type of, whatever you want to call it, empire, in the sense that we are so good, our laws are just, our people are fat and happy, I mean it figuratively, our economy is great, and it's done through production, it's done through trade, it's done through technological development, and then what happens?

00:52:49.000 Nobody's People will be jealous because we're rich.

00:52:51.000 That always happens.

00:52:52.000 But we're not blowing up kids.

00:52:54.000 We're not amoral crackpots.

00:52:56.000 Our money isn't being siphoned away from us.

00:52:58.000 Our economy is expanding.

00:52:59.000 Our families are happy.

00:53:00.000 Our kids are happy.

00:53:01.000 Our roads are taken care of.

00:53:02.000 Our infrastructure is taken care of.

00:53:04.000 And other countries are like, we need to be like them.

00:53:07.000 Look how well they're doing.

00:53:08.000 You want to spread democracy or whatever it is you call it?

00:53:11.000 That's how you do it.

00:53:12.000 You show up in a country with guns and then kill the elderly and then try to raise a new generation and you get Afghanistan. 0.97

00:53:18.000 Doesn't work.

00:53:19.000 I love it.

00:53:20.000 I think that the United States, China, and Russia have a duty to protect the planet, especially the Arctic.

00:53:26.000 It's so important.

00:53:28.000 We're right on the brink of it.

00:53:29.000 One thing back to the British, like, bringing the war to America. 0.95

00:53:32.000 You know, when we talk about Ukraine, I mean, for so long, Putin and the Russians were telling, you know, the US, like, You know, stop doing what you're doing.

00:53:41.000 Stop it.

00:53:42.000 And, you know, in the weeks and months leading up to the invasion, you know, almost a year before, they were, you know, massing troops and they submitted these security proposals.

00:53:51.000 They wanted NATO to be rolled back.

00:53:53.000 They wanted a guarantee that Ukraine would never join NATO.

00:53:56.000 just said no, basically, to their main demand of Ukraine joining NATO.

00:53:56.000 And the U.S.

00:54:01.000 A State Department official admitted this in an interview shortly after the Russian invasion.

00:54:05.000 And so, you know, and I'm not, you know, justifying Russia's invasion, but it is very clear how the U.S.

00:54:11.000 and the West provoke this thing.

00:54:14.000 And, you know, that's the thing.

00:54:15.000 That's on Russia's border.

00:54:16.000 We're, you know, we can't even, we try to put our self in the other person's shoes.

00:54:20.000 Could you imagine if Russia was funding a war in Canada?

00:54:25.000 You know, like there was a civil war there and then we intervened and Russia started sending them missiles and intelligence.

00:54:30.000 There was just a report in the Washington Post that said the CIA in 2015 started building up Ukraine's intelligence services, the SBU and the GUR, which is their military intelligence, to the tune of tens of millions of dollars.

00:54:44.000 And they were basically saying that because of that support, Ukraine's able to kill people inside Russia.

00:54:50.000 They pointed to the car bombing of Daria Dugina.

00:54:52.000 Do you guys know who she is?

00:54:54.000 Of course, the daughter of Alexander Dugin, that the Ukrainian SEU did.

00:54:58.000 They basically pointed to that, saying they're able to do this because of the CIA.

00:55:03.000 And the statue that exploded.

00:55:04.000 Do we know what that was about?

00:55:05.000 Do you remember that?

00:55:06.000 There was an internet personality in Russia.

00:55:09.000 Someone brought in a small bust of his head and it exploded.

00:55:12.000 That was them too.

00:55:14.000 That report said it was them.

00:55:16.000 And, you know, it closed with a very ominous quote from like a former CIA official, basically saying like, what have we created here?

00:55:24.000 What if they start killing people in third countries? 0.98

00:55:26.000 You know, what if, you know, like the blowback from this Ukraine war could be very serious?

00:55:31.000 It's going to be like Afghanistan. 1.00

00:55:33.000 It is, it is going to be, uh, like, like the Mujahideen. 0.97

00:55:37.000 It is, it is, Ukraine is now, uh, what was it?

00:55:41.000 The Republicans passed a funding bill for Israel, but not Ukraine.

00:55:43.000 They're saying it's gonna be dead in the Senate.

00:55:45.000 Joe Biden, here, let me, let me pull the story up.

00:55:47.000 Post-millennial, Biden admin announces additional $425 million military package to Ukraine.

00:55:53.000 So we have weaponized and armed Ukraine, but Ukraine is losing.

00:55:58.000 The appetite for funding this is on the decline and we've got an election coming up.

00:56:03.000 What do you think happens to the extreme, I'm not saying extremists, I'm saying like very fervent national militia groups in Ukraine who are funded and trained by US forces when the US pulls out and says you're on your own?

00:56:17.000 You talk about the fear of bombings in third countries, outside of Russia and stuff?

00:56:23.000 And then what happens?

00:56:26.000 Give it 20 years, and you've got trained armed groups in Ukraine who hate the United States for some reason or another, and you get Al-Qaeda all over again.

00:56:35.000 In some form or another.

00:56:36.000 There's, you know, because you hear the Russians talk about the Nazis in Ukraine, but there is a real neo-Nazi element in Ukraine.

00:56:43.000 You know, it's not huge, but it is very influential, and there are certain groups.

00:56:47.000 So there was like these raids going on in Russia that were done by this group called the Russian Volunteer Corps.

00:56:52.000 They were Russians, Russian people, that were fighting, you know, went over to Ukraine in 2014 to fight for them, and they're like openly neo-Nazi.

00:57:00.000 Wow.

00:57:00.000 And they had American armored vehicles.

00:57:03.000 So you had a group of neo-Nazis basically invading Russia.

00:57:06.000 And I think this was Belgrade.

00:57:07.000 They tried this a few times.

00:57:08.000 They didn't get much done.

00:57:10.000 But you have a group, a band of Nazis invading Russia with American weapons.

00:57:15.000 Like again, fathom, try to put yourself You know, we can't even imagine something like that happening to the U.S.

00:57:21.000 The Russians are actually probably justifiably sensitive to Nazis. 0.65

00:57:27.000 I think that it's probably fair.

00:57:29.000 I mean, the optics of it, of Germany sending Ukraine leopard tanks with the Iron Cross on them.

00:57:35.000 How could this happen?

00:57:36.000 What makes them Nazis?

00:57:37.000 Is it like racial superiority mindset or something?

00:57:40.000 Yeah, you know, I don't focus too much on the Nazi element, but there is like the Azov Battalion that was basically a neo-Nazi militia during the 2014 Donbass War and the coup and everything that joined the Ukrainian forces.

00:57:55.000 And there's also, you know, the history of Bandera and the Ukrainian nationalists during the World War II.

00:58:00.000 that worked with the Nazis and there are people that wear, you know, Nazi iconography

00:58:05.000 on their uniforms and stuff and it is pretty prevalent, like you'll notice it

00:58:10.000 in pictures of Ukrainian soldiers with the certain Nazi icons. So it is definitely an element

00:58:17.000 of their, you know, what they call the far right.

00:58:20.000 I kind of hate using the term far right these days because people probably call me far right, but it is like there's certainly that element inside Ukraine.

00:58:27.000 I think it's worth breaking apart what Nazism is exactly. 0.67

00:58:29.000 Hitler just used that term National Socialist and he made some psychotic political movement out of it, but he called it National Socialist. 0.75

00:58:36.000 But just if you're a nationalist and you're a socialist, doesn't mean you're a Nazi like Hitler.

00:58:40.000 Kind of means you're a Nazi.

00:58:43.000 There's not a lot of light between... As much as the socialists and communists don't want to admit this, there's not a lot of light between...

00:58:52.000 Communists and Nazis, right? 0.91

00:58:54.000 The Nazis are nationalists and they have a lot of racism, and the communists tend to not be nationalists.

00:59:01.000 They want to see a global socialism, but they're racist too a lot of the times, and you can see that in the way that the socialists are behaving towards a lot of the Jewish people that you see a lot of the anti-Semitism that's going on now.

00:59:17.000 So, there's not a lot of difference.

00:59:20.000 There are nuanced differences, but the real significant ideological differences are between liberalism and socialism, which Nazism is a type of socialism, because liberalism is based on enlightenment principles, right?

00:59:39.000 The fundamental thing about liberalism is the individual should be free to live their life and that the government is there to maybe have a social safety net, maybe not, but there's different amounts of governments that are acceptable.

00:59:52.000 But with socialist ideologies, the collective comes first.

00:59:56.000 So the Nazis believe that the German people came first.

00:59:59.000 And communists believe that the workers come before anyone else.

01:00:02.000 But it's a collectivist versus an individual ideology.

01:00:08.000 So there's not a whole... The differences between Nazis and commies is only nuance. 0.91

01:00:14.000 It was basically like Nazis were traditional and commies were progressive. 0.70

01:00:18.000 Yeah. 0.99

01:00:18.000 But they were all super authoritarian and wanted to lock you up in a cage and kill your family. 0.99

01:00:21.000 Exactly.

01:00:22.000 But to get back to this, the 425 million dollars that they're announcing here.

01:00:27.000 So this is money that they do have left.

01:00:30.000 They're kind of running out of money to send over there.

01:00:33.000 So Biden, in that $105 billion package that he requested, it includes $61 billion to keep the Ukraine war going for another year.

01:00:42.000 They want to do it so they could get through the 2024 election.

01:00:46.000 And again, there was this Zelishny, the Ukrainian commander-in-chief, just did an interview with The Economist saying, it's a stalemate, there's not going to be a breakthrough, but that doesn't matter to Biden.

01:00:55.000 They want to keep this thing going.

01:00:56.000 They want people to be, you know, there's still, there's been fighting, territory hasn't changed hands much, but a lot of people are dying, and that's what they want to continue funding.

01:01:05.000 So it's really just sick stuff.

01:01:07.000 I think the dying part is just... I don't think that it's what they're after.

01:01:13.000 I think the money and stuff is what they're after, and then the people dying, well, that's what happens.

01:01:17.000 They don't care.

01:01:18.000 It's just slimy.

01:01:18.000 They don't care, yeah.

01:01:19.000 Well, if you actually see how some senators kind of pitch this now, I know this is... I know Mitt Romney was saying this recently, you know, their argument for continuing this war going is, oh, we're getting our money's worth, you know?

01:01:30.000 I got an idea.

01:01:33.000 What's the total number of members of Congress?

01:01:35.000 It's a little bit more than the 425, but here's a deal.

01:01:35.000 435.

01:01:35.000 435?

01:01:35.000 All right.

01:01:42.000 We, the American people, will give each member of Congress one million dollars to not fund war.

01:01:51.000 And so, you have... It's a good and a bad.

01:01:56.000 We gotta negotiate here.

01:01:57.000 We are gonna have to spend that money, which adds to the deficit, devalues your currency.

01:02:02.000 But at least it stays as currency in the United States for trade, and we aren't blowing up people or funding war in other countries.

01:02:09.000 Yeah, sounds like a win-win.

01:02:10.000 So, members of Congress, if you vote against this, I say we give you all a million dollars.

01:02:15.000 Tax-free.

01:02:15.000 Tax-free!

01:02:16.000 Yeah!

01:02:19.000 Pay members of Congress a million dollars, but only... Hey, wait, here's an idea.

01:02:23.000 Any year, with no active war, members of Congress receive a million dollar bonus.

01:02:29.000 Yeah, that sounds good.

01:02:30.000 Yeah?

01:02:30.000 I'm in.

01:02:31.000 And Senate included?

01:02:34.000 Deal?

01:02:34.000 Yeah.

01:02:34.000 They're never gonna get it, but maybe that would incentivize them.

01:02:38.000 No, because you got a member of Congress being like, million dollar bonus, huh?

01:02:42.000 Yeah, but Raytheon's gonna pay me two million after I get out of Congress and go take that job and lobby for him.

01:02:46.000 Well, that's another thing now, like the corruption is so obvious.

01:02:49.000 Like Lloyd Austin, Biden's defense secretary, he came straight off the board of Raytheon.

01:02:55.000 And he started funding this war in Ukraine that made all these weapons, Raytheon weapons, in very high demand, weapons that they stopped making.

01:03:03.000 Stocks started going up.

01:03:04.000 Yeah, you know the Stinger missiles, the anti-aircraft missiles that they gave to the Mujahideen in Afghanistan?

01:03:09.000 Those were basically obsolete, you know, I think they were selling some to Taiwan.

01:03:13.000 But they stopped making them a while ago, and now they're in hot demand.

01:03:15.000 They're calling in like 70-year-old Raytheon engineers to start making them.

01:03:19.000 But it is, you know, the point I made about industry, So you have a manufacturer who makes, um, he makes bullets.

01:03:28.000 And let's say he makes a thousand bullets per week.

01:03:31.000 The government comes to them and says, we really like the quality of your ammo.

01:03:34.000 Can you produce for us an additional thousand?

01:03:37.000 And the guy goes...

01:03:38.000 If I'm gonna do that, I gotta hire, like, five more people for, like, logistics and all this.

01:03:42.000 And they say, well, we can pay you a premium.

01:03:45.000 We'll pay you X amount.

01:03:46.000 And the guy goes, wow, I'm gonna, it's 2.2 times my revenue for only two times the M.O.

01:03:53.000 I got a good premium on this.

01:03:55.000 Deal.

01:03:56.000 Next month, he says, I've got these employees working here.

01:04:01.000 Are you going to rip my contract?

01:04:02.000 And they say, no.

01:04:03.000 And he goes, then what do I do with these employees?

01:04:05.000 So the problem is the war machine becomes an addiction where it's not just about the kind of bribery of, I'm going to tell your constituents you did this.

01:04:13.000 It's that, okay, look, if we lay off a hundred thousand people, economy is going to get hit by this.

01:04:19.000 You gotta keep building these things just to keep the economy going because these jobs will be lost otherwise.

01:04:23.000 That's how they make the argument.

01:04:24.000 That's what Blinken's been saying that recently.

01:04:27.000 Oh, it's good for American jobs to spend all this money on wars.

01:04:30.000 I loved it when Trump said it.

01:04:31.000 He said it with the Saudis. 0.97

01:04:32.000 Exactly.

01:04:33.000 He's like, we're gonna sell them a bunch of weapons.

01:04:34.000 It's great for the economy.

01:04:35.000 And it's like, oh, wow.

01:04:37.000 I hear that the government contracts are long term.

01:04:40.000 They'll do like, I don't know how many year contracts, but they don't do like one year contracts.

01:04:43.000 If you get a government contract, apparently it's very lucrative for your company.

01:04:47.000 You're set.

01:04:48.000 I remember a long time ago, there was a story where... And you don't even have to do a good job.

01:04:52.000 One of the armed forces, like the army or whatever, said, we do not need any more tanks.

01:04:57.000 And then Congress says, nope!

01:04:59.000 And then passed legislation to build more, saying, we don't care what you think.

01:05:02.000 Ah, slow targets.

01:05:03.000 Wonderful.

01:05:04.000 Hypersonic missiles.

01:05:05.000 And the reason that they do that is because, or the reason they can do that is because they break up the production of them throughout multiple congressional districts.

01:05:14.000 So you'll have The pieces that go into tanks made throughout the whole country.

01:05:19.000 So no one person can say, we're going to stop this.

01:05:23.000 Because everybody's like, well, if we stop making the tanks, there's going to be job loss nationwide or in these 50 congressional districts.

01:05:32.000 And the Congress people are like, no, you're not going to do anything that's going to affect our job market.

01:05:37.000 So the incentive is not just from the government.

01:05:40.000 It's or it's not just the government wants these things.

01:05:43.000 It's the way that the government has set up intentionally set up the production of these of weapons and stuff like that.

01:05:49.000 It's it's throughout the whole economy.

01:05:52.000 And so you've got you've got the incentive from multiple people in Congress to say no to vote against it.

01:05:58.000 Did you want to add anything to that before we jump in?

01:06:00.000 I was just going to say, I remember Matt Gaetz voted for, you know, he's been very good on the wars, some wars in the Middle East.

01:06:05.000 He introduced resolutions to leave Syria and stuff.

01:06:08.000 Unfortunately, he just voted to give Israel $14 billion to fund that war.

01:06:12.000 But I remember he voted for the NDAA.

01:06:14.000 Oh, yeah.

01:06:15.000 Which one?

01:06:15.000 And he just said, I think it was recent.

01:06:17.000 Oh, okay, a recent one.

01:06:19.000 I don't remember exactly when, but I just remember he went on Twitter and he's like, I voted for the NDAA because- Real quick, National Defense Authorization Act.

01:06:24.000 Yeah, sorry.

01:06:25.000 So it's the annual, basically, Pentagon spending bill that they pass every year.

01:06:29.000 And Gates just said, I voted for the NDAA because it brings jobs to the district that I represent in Florida and that's that.

01:06:36.000 And it's like, okay, at least he's honest about what he's doing.

01:06:39.000 I would hope to see him vote against it because it's just such a behemoth.

01:06:43.000 Did he vote for this $14 billion package?

01:06:45.000 Was it just that, or was it part of an omnibus?

01:06:48.000 It was $14.3 billion for military aid for Israel.

01:06:51.000 The way that Johnson, the new House Speaker, and his people wrote it up was that it cuts the $14 billion from the IRS.

01:06:57.000 right right right and sends it to which is such a Republican move it's like oh

01:07:01.000 yeah we're gonna make some cuts and send it to fund a war in Gaza so well to be 0.99

01:07:06.000 fair it is better than just adding to the debt but it's still not good I think

01:07:09.000 NDA's count as omnibus bills because they they have all kinds of stuff so I

01:07:14.000 do want to jump to this very very big story but the first thing I'll announce

01:07:16.000 is Mark Zuckerberg tore his ACL He was training for an MMA fight. 0.99

01:07:21.000 Damn. 0.99

01:07:22.000 And I just want to say shout out. 1.00

01:07:23.000 Sorry to hear it, buddy.

01:07:24.000 I hope you get better.

01:07:25.000 ACL tears are no joke.

01:07:26.000 PRP, dude.

01:07:27.000 You got this.

01:07:28.000 He's got a picture of him in the hospital.

01:07:30.000 No, I sincerely mean it.

01:07:31.000 Not a fan of a lot of things that Facebook has done.

01:07:33.000 But man, ACL tear is brutal.

01:07:36.000 Elon, you should reach out.

01:07:37.000 Send your well wishes.

01:07:38.000 Elon was joking with Joe Rogan about how he was going to dominate Mark in an MMA match.

01:07:42.000 And it was fun laughing and laughing.

01:07:44.000 So hopefully, Elon, you'll Yeah, your ACL is like a strong, strong component in your knee, and this can end careers for pro athletes and stuff.

01:07:52.000 Well, Mark has access to the best medicine on earth.

01:07:54.000 I'm excited to watch his recovery.

01:07:55.000 He like really trains, right?

01:07:57.000 Elon Musk probably couldn't take it.

01:07:59.000 Yeah, Elon was like, I'm a walrus.

01:08:00.000 If I lay on him, he won't be able to get up.

01:08:01.000 Joe's like, that's not how it works, dude.

01:08:03.000 He'll get put in a submission.

01:08:04.000 If you get choked, you're done.

01:08:05.000 Yup, yup, he'll tap out.

01:08:06.000 Okay, we got a big story.

01:08:08.000 This is a story from the Daily Mail about vaccines.

01:08:11.000 And vaccines are on the ballot.

01:08:13.000 The first thing I want to say is, ladies and gentlemen, don't take medical advice from podcasters, and talk to your doctor about what's right for you.

01:08:19.000 But this story is very interesting as per the sentiment held by people in this country and how it relates to R.F.K.

01:08:26.000 Jr.

01:08:27.000 versus Trump and Biden.

01:08:28.000 Check out this headline.

01:08:30.000 According to the Daily Mail, a quarter of Americans say COVID-19 shots are unsafe and that they know someone who died from one.

01:08:38.000 As 2024 wannabes, DeSantis and R.F.K.

01:08:41.000 Jr.

01:08:41.000 take skepticism on the campaign trail.

01:08:44.000 I think this number is highly questionable.

01:08:48.000 That one in four Americans know someone who died, that is a strong, like, I think we'd hear in the news about that many people having died.

01:08:57.000 That being said, I want to clarify.

01:09:00.000 If there are 10 people, and they all know Bill, and Bill dies, and then you ask these 10 people, do you know someone who died?

01:09:07.000 They'll all say yes.

01:09:07.000 Oh, that's a great point.

01:09:08.000 Yes.

01:09:09.000 It's still just one person.

01:09:10.000 And even people that know them, who know Bill, might also say yes.

01:09:14.000 Right.

01:09:14.000 Friend of my friend, and they're like, oh, yeah.

01:09:15.000 It's like, oh, I know someone who died.

01:09:16.000 Yeah, my friend's friend, Bill.

01:09:18.000 You know what I mean?

01:09:18.000 So we don't know exactly what this means.

01:09:20.000 Also, I didn't get asked, so they didn't do a holistic approach.

01:09:22.000 It actually does say, despite several attempts, Ian Crossland did not respond to our question.

01:09:27.000 And I never will.

01:09:28.000 Into your emails, Ian.

01:09:29.000 I want to stress, YouTube calm down.

01:09:32.000 I am not talking about this because I care to talk about the efficacy or issues around vaccines.

01:09:36.000 That's for you guys and your doctors or whatever.

01:09:38.000 I do think it is politically important that people feel this way because there's a question of We're talking with Luke Rutkowski about RFK Jr., and Luke was saying there's a good possibility that RFK could take votes from Trump because Trump was bad on vaccine mandates and lockdowns, and RFK Jr.

01:09:55.000 is good.

01:09:55.000 And I say, yeah, but the core ideologies of RFK Jr.

01:09:58.000 and Trump are so different.

01:10:01.000 I think you're going to find somebody who says, I'm willing to forgive Trump on a lot of things because he's anti-woke, he's challenging his government contracts, no new wars, etc.

01:10:10.000 And RFK Jr.

01:10:10.000 called Columbus Day Indigenous People's Day, and that's like a red flag for a lot of people.

01:10:14.000 Yeah.

01:10:14.000 So that being said, let me read a little bit.

01:10:17.000 They say, Americans are growing more skeptical about the safety and effectiveness of vaccines, and politicians from left and right are echoing these fears in their campaigns to win the White House.

01:10:27.000 Polling this week shows that while most voters trust shots for COVID-19, MMR, and other bugs, millions more have changed their minds in recent months and no longer see them as safe.

01:10:38.000 The surveys come as health chiefs warn of rampant online misinformation linking injections with death and autism, and that ivermectin, an anti-parasitic drug typically used in animals, can treat COVID-19.

01:10:47.000 Again, don't take medical advice from a news organization either.

01:10:50.000 Despite these warnings and their implications for public health, two politicians are building vaccine skepticism into their 2024 campaign.

01:10:57.000 It's DeSantis and it's RFK, but here's the image.

01:11:00.000 Look at RFK's face!

01:11:02.000 It's the most hideous, angry... So here's some questions.

01:11:07.000 They asked, is the COVID-19 vaccine safe?

01:11:10.000 In August of 2022, 73% said yes and 18% said no.

01:11:15.000 As of October 2023, 66% say yes and 24% say no.

01:11:20.000 That's really interesting.

01:11:21.000 They asked, do you know someone personally who died from side effects of the COVID-19 vaccine?

01:11:25.000 24% said yes, 69% said no.

01:11:30.000 They ask, is increased vaccine use linked to kids getting autism?

01:11:34.000 10% said yes in April of 2021.

01:11:37.000 As of October this year, 16% say yes.

01:11:40.000 And then here's a big one.

01:11:42.000 If there was a major class action lawsuit against pharmaceutical companies for vaccine side effects, how likely would you be to join the lawsuit?

01:11:50.000 24%, very likely.

01:11:52.000 18%, somewhat likely.

01:11:53.000 Not very likely, 22.

01:11:55.000 And not likely at all, 25, with 11 not sure.

01:11:57.000 The plurality is not likely.

01:12:00.000 And they ask, is Ivermectin an effective treatment?

01:12:03.000 In September of 21, 10% said yes.

01:12:05.000 As of this month, 26% said yes.

01:12:08.000 And I want to stress for the 800th time, I am just reading polls.

01:12:11.000 Calm down, YouTube.

01:12:12.000 Yeah, not all vaccines are the same, and it's not fair to classify them as such.

01:12:17.000 Well-tested medicine is very different than untested medicine.

01:12:20.000 I like not having polio.

01:12:22.000 Sure.

01:12:22.000 And the main point here is, What is shifting the American perspective on this issue?

01:12:28.000 Well, let's first find out how many people got polled here.

01:12:32.000 This is an important aspect of this one, because if it's just a thousand people, then I'm going to stop reading Daily Mail.

01:12:37.000 Like, that is a gross miscategorization of one in four Americans.

01:12:42.000 That's a good point.

01:12:43.000 It could be a highly biased poll.

01:12:46.000 I think it's Rasmussen Reports and the Annenberg Public Policy Center of the University of Pennsylvania.

01:12:54.000 Wow!

01:12:55.000 Rasmussen's usually pretty good.

01:12:56.000 But Rasmussen and University of Pennsylvania.

01:12:59.000 If it was just Rasmussen, I'd say Rasmussen gets a lot right.

01:13:02.000 You know, we'll see.

01:13:03.000 The both of them together, I say, OK, that's really interesting.

01:13:05.000 Again, this is not a poll about whether or not they vaccines actually cause issues.

01:13:09.000 It's something is shifting the perspective of the American population.

01:13:12.000 This is going to play a big role.

01:13:14.000 I'm wondering, however, you know, when Luke said Trump was bad on vaccines and lockdowns, so RFK Jr.

01:13:19.000 may pull from him.

01:13:20.000 Yeah, but Biden was worse.

01:13:22.000 Biden and Democrats were 10 times more into lockdowns and vaccine stuff than Trump.

01:13:28.000 Yeah, but Trump was in when all the worst stuff happened.

01:13:30.000 When it came to the lockdowns, at least.

01:13:32.000 I guess he was the first guy who said, we're going to shut down for a couple weeks.

01:13:36.000 Yeah.

01:13:36.000 So, and I think, you know, because you mentioned how RFK Jr.

01:13:39.000 and Trump are very different ideologically, but I mean, so many people who vote, I mean, this is just people I know who voted for Trump.

01:13:46.000 They're not like ideological, really.

01:13:49.000 They just go in and vote Trump because they don't like the other person.

01:13:52.000 Like a lot of people voted like that.

01:13:53.000 So if they see RFK Jr., And he's really good on this issue.

01:13:56.000 And this is a big thing.

01:13:57.000 Just COVID in general really affected so many people, you know, so if he's good on it, that might just be enough for people.

01:14:04.000 I think that that's an issue that could flip a lot of Trump voters.

01:14:08.000 I'm just really curious.

01:14:11.000 What do you think is causing this shift in the American public's perception?

01:14:14.000 I mean, the corporate press has been insistent on vaccines.

01:14:18.000 And you know, we here, as good stewards of information, we don't break any of these YouTube rules.

01:14:25.000 How could these people possibly hold these views?

01:14:28.000 I think that it's the fact that people mistrust authority.

01:14:31.000 You know, trust in the media and trust in the government had been going down for a long time prior to COVID, and COVID just annihilated a lot of people's trust.

01:14:45.000 There's a lot of people that are Horribly embarrassed by the the way that they supported the government that they believe things that the news said and I think that that this is the the the result of that if you have a society that

01:15:03.000 generally has a declining in trust and a, and honestly, we are more cynical than we've ever been. You know,

01:15:11.000 it's like being earnest is now looked at as something to be mocked.

01:15:16.000 And so believing that what the news tells you is, is something that will get you mocked nowadays.

01:15:23.000 If you say, Oh, I believe if you have enough followers on Twitter, you can say, I believe anyone, anything.

01:15:30.000 It could be anything at all.

01:15:32.000 And someone's going to say, you're wrong. 1.00

01:15:34.000 And you're dumb for believing it. 0.99

01:15:36.000 There is this impulse that people have to be the one person that has the inside track. 0.99

01:15:47.000 And so people are afraid to believe things.

01:15:49.000 They're afraid to admit that they believe things because they're going to get mocked.

01:15:52.000 They're going to get called out. 1.00

01:15:53.000 They're going to be people that say, You're dumb for believing that. 1.00

01:15:57.000 Didn't you know? 1.00

01:15:58.000 How could you believe that?

01:15:59.000 I mean, I see it all the time in my Twitter feed.

01:16:02.000 Oh, how could you believe that?

01:16:04.000 You know this, and how could you not?

01:16:05.000 So I think that that disincentivizes people to believe anything.

01:16:09.000 They're afraid to say that they believe anything.

01:16:10.000 They're afraid to say, oh, I think this is actually true.

01:16:14.000 And they don't know where to go to get information that they feel like that should be trusted.

01:16:19.000 Well, let me let me piggyback off of that.

01:16:21.000 Did this article even link to the study, to the poll?

01:16:24.000 Or are they just like, a poll said one performer... I don't even trust this story.

01:16:30.000 I think they're lying.

01:16:31.000 I don't even think it's one of the four.

01:16:32.000 They cited Rasmussen and University of Pennsylvania.

01:16:34.000 But did they link to it?

01:16:35.000 But what do you mean, like to the crosstabs?

01:16:37.000 Yeah, like, show me how many people they polled.

01:16:38.000 If they polled a thousand people, and they're saying that that extrapolates to 350 million, I'm gonna be like, get out of my face.

01:16:43.000 I think I'm gonna have to go directly to Rasmussen for that.

01:16:45.000 When you say that there's like a shift here, like, has people, has there really been polls asking this question before?

01:16:51.000 You know, we don't really know if this reflects like a shift.

01:16:55.000 It looks like they had previous polls asking the same question.

01:16:57.000 Oh, yeah, you're right.

01:16:58.000 Now, that aside... Let me see if I can pull up the crosstabs.

01:17:02.000 That aside, I think that rushing the COVID vaccine, the warp speed thing, tweaked a lot of people.

01:17:08.000 That was like, I'm afraid for my life because of COVID, and I'll do anything you say mentality.

01:17:14.000 And then when we saw rises in myocarditis, that's terrifying.

01:17:20.000 Yeah, and Trump still brags about warp speed, right?

01:17:23.000 When they ask him about it, he says how proud he was.

01:17:25.000 He literally brags about anything that he possibly could.

01:17:28.000 That's what I kind of wanted to ask you guys about, because I know, Tim, I don't know if you consider yourself a MAGA guy, but... No.

01:17:35.000 I'm voting for Trump.

01:17:37.000 He's far from perfect, but he's the best we've got.

01:17:38.000 It just seems like there's a pretty big distinct difference between the MAGA movement and the things that Trump actually says now.

01:17:45.000 Uh, but I know he represents something more so.

01:17:47.000 Yeah, definitely.

01:17:48.000 RFK Jr., I gotta say, he was a big disappointment, um, because, you know, I'm kind of a single-issue type of guy, and he came out really strong on Ukraine, you know, very well.

01:17:56.000 And then, uh, people started calling him... Sorry, 1500 Adults.

01:18:00.000 Yeah, it's just such a disingenuous title of the article.

01:18:03.000 1,500?

01:18:03.000 I mean, that's a typical polling.

01:18:04.000 It says poll finds.

01:18:04.000 But what do you mean?

01:18:05.000 Mm-hmm, poll finds.

01:18:06.000 Oh, it's a fair point.

01:18:07.000 You should have said one in four of 1,500 polled.

01:18:09.000 Like, that's not 350 million.

01:18:11.000 Polls are typically like 1,000 to 1,500.

01:18:12.000 1,500 is actually above average.

01:18:14.000 So you have to kind of consider that.

01:18:16.000 Yeah, you're right.

01:18:16.000 I consider that it's highly manipulative.

01:18:19.000 It's just an absolute waste of a time.

01:18:21.000 It is the most disingenuous, misleading title to say that one in four Americans think it when they polled 1,500 people.

01:18:27.000 Ian, I don't think you understand how polls work.

01:18:28.000 I understand completely how they work, and they're massively manipulative.

01:18:31.000 They are manipulative.

01:18:32.000 Most people understand that they're not trying to... They're not supposed to be, but the way the article phrased it, it makes it extremely manipulative.

01:18:39.000 But the point that I'm making is most people understand that if you are talking about polls,

01:18:43.000 you're not talking about a poll of a hundred thousand people like the most actually.

01:18:50.000 What was that civics.com?

01:18:51.000 They have polls that because they're so expansive, there's 300,000 really?

01:18:54.000 Yeah, it's good on them.

01:18:56.000 But still most most polls like they're not hitting, you know, but this was a shock title

01:19:03.000 to get clicks.

01:19:05.000 It's Daily Mail.

01:19:06.000 Sure, but it's a Rasmussen and, what is it, the, I want to get the name right, the Annenberg Public Policy Center.

01:19:15.000 So, the way polls are done is through, there's a scientific polling method where they take a wide range of individuals, they whittle down their networks.

01:19:27.000 There's bad things and huge margins of errors when it's done improperly, but you basically try and create a cross-section of America, Isolate it down to the key demographic areas where you notice these ideological shifts, and then poll a thousand people, and then figure out what the percentages are, and then try and, like, that's, it's normal.

01:19:46.000 And you can argue there's a margin of error in these things, but right, polls, no one can see the future.

01:19:53.000 What were you gonna say, David?

01:19:55.000 I interrupted you on accident.

01:19:56.000 Oh no, I was just wondering, it wasn't really related, I was just wondering what you guys think of RFK Jr.

01:20:01.000 I mean, have you had him on here?

01:20:03.000 I like the fact that he's countered to the narrative that the government puts out.

01:20:12.000 I think that he's terrible on literally everything except for vaccines.

01:20:16.000 Yeah I would say so again with the foreign policy like he was he's very good on Ukraine and he explains it well he interviews people you know he had his own podcast he was interviewing people I know this guy named Ben Abloh who wrote a book called how the West brought war to Ukraine it's like a very short book that came out right after the invasion explaining how the US provoked it so we interviewed him and he really understands the issue but when it comes to Israel people smear him you know they they called him an anti-semite and he just went all in on Israel and when this thing happened it's just like He says that the U.S.

01:20:47.000 needs to support an Israeli sustained military campaign.

01:20:51.000 I need to issue a clarification.

01:20:52.000 The data comes from two different polls.

01:20:55.000 Rasmussen and Enberg did different polls.

01:20:57.000 They're just being mentioned in the same article.

01:20:59.000 You got the Rasmussen was 1,500, the other one... No, no, no.

01:21:02.000 1,110 was Rasmussen.

01:21:06.000 Okay.

01:21:07.000 Rasmussen was actually one of the most accurate polls in I think 2016 and 2018.

01:21:12.000 I think I consistently actually.

01:21:15.000 When the polling data comes out showing how many people voted, Rasmussen almost always nails it.

01:21:19.000 For the record, I really, really like accurate polling.

01:21:22.000 Like, if you can get 10,000 people and you get an accurate readout of what those 10,000 people think, maybe you can be like, The issue is if Rasmussen does five polls and then they say, here's what people are saying, 51%, 49%.

01:21:36.000 Then the election happens and they go, yeah, it was, they were right, 51, 49.

01:21:39.000 How about that?

01:21:40.000 And they do it five times, then they come up with another poll.

01:21:42.000 I'm like, okay, I'll lean towards believing them.

01:21:45.000 Ian, I just want to push back a little bit on what you said.

01:21:48.000 If you're dealing with a country with 330 million people, Why is 10,000 acceptable and 1,500 not?

01:21:57.000 No, I'm saying in a small town of 10,000 and you pull 10,000 people.

01:22:00.000 I like those kind of pulls.

01:22:02.000 Or even if there's like maybe 15,000 people and you pull 10,000 of them.

01:22:05.000 You need like 70 or 80.

01:22:05.000 The one that's accurate.

01:22:07.000 If you want to come out and make a statement that one in four Americans believe something, you better poll at least 90% of them.

01:22:14.000 Ian, you're not asking for a poll, you're asking for an election.

01:22:16.000 I'm asking for a real poll, not these junk polls that they do.

01:22:19.000 Polls are kind of the best you have when it comes to the things you're looking to find out, when it comes to election polling.

01:22:25.000 They're better than I think that's lazy thinking, just because that's how it's always been done, just deal with it kind of mentality.

01:22:33.000 Well, you're saying that's just, like, the best we can do?

01:22:35.000 He didn't say we shouldn't improve it.

01:22:36.000 I'm saying it's just, when it comes to, you know, especially elections, when you, like, it is kind of your best indication of where people are at, is polling.

01:22:45.000 And the question is, has the polling organization been accurate in the past?

01:22:49.000 And then, if we look at Rasmussen and find that they typically are very accurate, you discrediting them because you don't like polling methodology makes no sense.

01:22:57.000 I just credit them because they pulled 1,100 people and then they claimed to speak for 330 million.

01:23:02.000 No, the article did.

01:23:03.000 I think, you know, if you're saying that they should just pull more people, I think that's a reasonable thing to say. 1.00

01:23:08.000 100%.

01:23:08.000 And most polls actually say 47 people of those polled said.

01:23:12.000 Yeah, or that's what they should say, not the shock statement of... You're complaining about a news organization, not the polling institutions.

01:23:17.000 No, I think, you know... Speaking of polls, there was just a poll conducted by... I forget the name of the place, but it was about Israel and Gaza, and it said the majority of Americans support a ceasefire.

01:23:26.000 It said the majority of Republicans do, which, like, I almost didn't believe it.

01:23:31.000 You know, I think that a lot of Americans do want a ceasefire, but it was like 80% of Democrats and 56% of Republicans.

01:23:38.000 You know, they polled like 1,500 people.

01:23:41.000 Trump people don't want war.

01:23:42.000 Yeah, you're right.

01:23:43.000 I think a lot of the ordinary Trump people don't want war, even if it is Israel, but unfortunately the MAGA politicians seem to favor it.

01:23:50.000 I think one issue... Hold on, derail.

01:23:53.000 Another issue I have with polling is, and this is a little bit off base, is that I feel like it is a self-fulfilling prophecy sometimes.

01:24:00.000 If they poll people and they're like, 80% want this, then people will see that and be like, yeah, me too.

01:24:05.000 That can kind of That's why their political polls will often try and skew it in favor of their politician, to convince people that our guy's the winner.

01:24:14.000 Because people want to vote for the winner.

01:24:16.000 It's so weird.

01:24:16.000 If you see the polls, the election polls right now, I mean, Trump is leading the pack still by so much.

01:24:23.000 So that indication, like, we don't know the exact, what the exact vote would actually be, but from constant polls showing him so far ahead, it gives you an idea.

01:24:32.000 I got a question for you.

01:24:33.000 We've been looking at these polls.

01:24:34.000 RFK entering the race as an independent.

01:24:36.000 Do you think that he pulls more votes away from Trump or from Biden?

01:24:39.000 I think Trump.

01:24:40.000 I actually do think Trump.

01:24:41.000 Again, because just, you know, the average Trump voter might not be so ideologically drawn to Trump.

01:24:49.000 I know so many people have voted for Trump in 2016.

01:24:51.000 It was just a vote against the establishment.

01:24:54.000 Same thing in 2020, just a lot of people that didn't like Biden.

01:24:56.000 I also knew a lot of people that didn't vote for him that did it because they were kind of sick of it.

01:24:59.000 But I think this COVID issue, again, when it comes to Americans, issues that really affect them, I mean, this is something that really affected Americans.

01:25:08.000 Me, personally, I, you know, my wife's business closed down, we moved out of the city, we, you know, changed our whole life.

01:25:14.000 And it's something that people are going to remember.

01:25:17.000 You know, this is, this was a very, Serious time in in America, you know, it's kind of like if you think back on it, you know, I was living in Brooklyn at the time with the lockdowns and it was just looking back like it was so insane and everybody went along with it and I saw Andrew Cuomo and when I would go get a coffee on the TV with his nipples sticking out telling us to stay in our houses and it was crazy and I was so angry about it.

01:25:40.000 Angry enough that we left.

01:25:42.000 And, you know, I'm fortunate enough that I was okay.

01:25:45.000 You know, my wife's business closing down. 1.00

01:25:46.000 We were fine.

01:25:47.000 We were able to get out, move out to the country.

01:25:49.000 But a lot of people didn't have that option.

01:25:51.000 So, you know, I think he could definitely pull some Trump voters that still feel that anger about what happened in 2020.

01:25:59.000 Yeah, man.

01:26:00.000 Now, what I would love to talk about is the vaccine, the COVID vaccine, or the series of COVID vaccines.

01:26:05.000 I don't want to start going too hard on it on YouTube.

01:26:08.000 I know that YouTube has requested that we don't, you know, splatter our opinions about it.

01:26:13.000 I would love to, because I think this is just, so many people were traumatized by this experience of the COVID vaccine, or the COVID virus, and then the vaccinations.

01:26:21.000 I mean, the thing about, you know, I left New York before this happened, You had to show them your vaccination papers to go into a restaurant.

01:26:28.000 I mean, that is insane.

01:26:30.000 That is stuff that the anti-vaxxers were saying a few decades ago that people were like, not even a few decades ago, not long before that, people were like, that's crazy.

01:26:38.000 That'll never happen.

01:26:39.000 In 2020, they were like, they're going to start doing these passports. 0.96

01:26:40.000 I was like, shut up. 0.96

01:26:41.000 No, they're not. 1.00

01:26:41.000 And they did. 1.00

01:26:42.000 In New York, where I used to live.

01:26:43.000 They tried the app.

01:26:44.000 I can't imagine it.

01:26:45.000 They tried doing the app and nobody would do it.

01:26:47.000 They wanted a social credit score.

01:26:49.000 So you know what's interesting?

01:26:52.000 So RFK Jr., Israel, so that model, what New York City did, and I think other cities did it, I think DC might have did it for a little while, you know, the vaccine passport was modeled on Israel's Green Pass.

01:27:03.000 Israel, like, was very, you know, vaccine mandate and lockdowns and stuff, and I believe it was called the Green Pass.

01:27:09.000 So kind of one of the most intrusive things that they did to us was based on Israel's model. 1.00

01:27:14.000 China, on the other hand, they had their lockdowns that were really insane, but they actually, they tried to implement some sort of vaccine mandate in Beijing and people were like, no, we're not doing that.

01:27:23.000 And then they gave up.

01:27:24.000 So it's kind of interesting, just the differences in the countries.

01:27:27.000 Like it's not something you would really expect that you would just assume China had like a vaccine mandate, but they didn't.

01:27:32.000 Like in that sense of you have to walk in and show them your card or scan something.

01:27:37.000 But yeah, it's based off Israel's model.

01:27:39.000 Wow.

01:27:40.000 I was thinking the other day how funny it was, and maybe it's funny strange, not funny haha, that it was COVID.

01:27:45.000 They were like, it's so dangerous that you have to get tested to find out if you even have it.

01:27:49.000 And I'm like, okay, really?

01:27:52.000 One thing I'm proud of is that I've never taken a COVID test.

01:27:56.000 And that wasn't really, like, intentional, but I just never did.

01:27:59.000 I took one, and I tickled the back of my nose, and I was just sneezing and blowing all the snot out.

01:28:03.000 Dude, it felt so good.

01:28:04.000 I was outside doing it, I was like, oh yeah, rolling it around.

01:28:07.000 Maybe I should take one, that sounds fun.

01:28:08.000 It felt really nice.

01:28:09.000 Okay, that's awful.

01:28:10.000 Yeah, so now everyone knows.

01:28:12.000 But, back to politics.

01:28:13.000 That was a rough week.

01:28:15.000 I don't see... I think RFK Jr.

01:28:18.000 pulls from both Trump and Biden, but 2-1 Biden from Trump.

01:28:22.000 Do you think so?

01:28:23.000 Yeah, because RFK Jr.

01:28:23.000 Okay.

01:28:25.000 is a liberal.

01:28:27.000 His core is liberal.

01:28:27.000 Yeah.

01:28:28.000 It's true.

01:28:29.000 He's Kennedy.

01:28:29.000 He's got the Kennedy name.

01:28:30.000 Exactly.

01:28:31.000 And he's running on that.

01:28:32.000 Ian's pointed out when he talks about his family that his family would not vote for Trump.

01:28:37.000 They would vote for Biden.

01:28:38.000 They might vote for RFK.

01:28:39.000 I think that's just like a really simple way of breaking down what this might be.

01:28:43.000 They did vote for Biden.

01:28:44.000 I don't know what they're up to these days.

01:28:45.000 I should talk to him about it.

01:28:46.000 I mean, Biden's mental degradation has become very apparent.

01:28:49.000 If the poll is for Democrats, five points towards RFK, meaning your average person has a 95% chance of voting for Joe Biden, that still means 5% vote for RFK Jr., whereas the poll for Trump supporters is like one.

01:28:49.000 It's crazy.

01:29:03.000 What are your feelings on Vivek Ramaswamy?

01:29:07.000 Uh, he says, you know, a lot of good things, but I think his foreign policy, he's pretty off base, uh, on some things with, you know, Taiwan.

01:29:15.000 For instance, he, he wants to commit to defending Taiwan, but he also says things like, oh, once we get semiconductor independence, then we're not gonna, uh, you know, worry about Taiwan anymore.

01:29:24.000 But he's still saying that, you know, to deter war, we should, you know, commit to war with Taiwan and also his plan to end the Ukraine war.

01:29:32.000 He's like, I'm going to get Putin to sever his military alliance with China.

01:29:36.000 And that's how we're going to end it.

01:29:38.000 It's not really a realistic plan.

01:29:40.000 You know, they don't really have a formal military alliance.

01:29:42.000 They've been building one up and doing drills and stuff.

01:29:45.000 But also just they're not going to go for that.

01:29:47.000 I mean, trust has been destroyed between the West and Russia.

01:29:51.000 You know, there's going to have to be some real good faith negotiations and, you know, trying to just get something like that.

01:29:57.000 Like China and Russia have really built up their trade relationship in recent years and they're Very reliant on each other now.

01:30:03.000 They're not just going to give that up for the U.S.

01:30:04.000 That could change in eight, four, eight years.

01:30:07.000 Somebody will come in and say, you know what?

01:30:08.000 Forget that.

01:30:08.000 We're going to move, you know, move NATO into Ukraine.

01:30:10.000 Forget that guarantee we gave you.

01:30:12.000 We need to rebuild trust before you could do something like that.

01:30:14.000 Yeah, a new administration is definitely a big thing. 0.91

01:30:18.000 Putin's not a dumb guy.

01:30:19.000 And he also tries to play it off of Richard Nixon going to China and shaking hands with Mao. 0.85

01:30:23.000 But Nixon had the Sino-Soviet split to capitalize.

01:30:28.000 They were already enemies, the Soviet Union and Communist China, at that point.

01:30:32.000 That's not the situation right now with Putin and Xi Jinping.

01:30:35.000 They're best buddies right now.

01:30:36.000 So it's a very different time.

01:30:39.000 And I actually spoke with Chas Freeman about this.

01:30:43.000 He was in the US government in various positions, but he was actually Nixon's interpreter when he went to Mao.

01:30:48.000 And he agreed that the idea that it's anything similar to that is just off base.

01:30:55.000 So I think there's other ways to argue for ending the Ukraine war, just the fact that it's not in American interest.

01:31:01.000 That it's every day that we continue it.

01:31:03.000 It's very dangerous.

01:31:04.000 We're spending all this money.

01:31:05.000 We're going bankrupt.

01:31:06.000 I think that should really be the argument.

01:31:08.000 And we see that argument from other Republicans.

01:31:10.000 Do you think it's just to declare like a white peace and cede the eastern Donbass to Russia? 0.67

01:31:16.000 Um, what I think should happen?

01:31:18.000 Yeah.

01:31:19.000 Uh, it's tough to say.

01:31:20.000 I mean, um, you know, right now I think really the U.S.

01:31:24.000 just has to end it and make Ukraine negotiate something and whatever that is.

01:31:29.000 And, you know, realistically, at this point, Russia's not going to give that territory up.

01:31:35.000 And, you know, it's the Donbass and Zaporozhye and Kherson, you know, we're not, we shouldn't be risking nuclear war for those territories.

01:31:42.000 You know, it shouldn't have gotten to this point.

01:31:43.000 It didn't have to get to this point.

01:31:45.000 But now that it's at this point, we need to end this thing.

01:31:47.000 We need to end this thing tomorrow.

01:31:49.000 Because again, we could wake up and be at war with Russia. 0.65

01:31:52.000 Again, assassinations in Russia with, you know, CIA trained groups killing people.

01:31:57.000 It's, you know, the fact that we're at this point is really unbelievable.

01:32:00.000 Well, I would love to just drill down into the philosophy of what's going on in the Middle East, in Israel, and Palestine.

01:32:06.000 It is, however, 9.31.

01:32:08.000 I think we're about to take some Super Chats.

01:32:09.000 We are going to Super Chats!

01:32:11.000 YouTube's been giving us the business, though.

01:32:13.000 The Super Chats aren't loading properly.

01:32:14.000 Load me.

01:32:15.000 But it's fine, it's fine.

01:32:16.000 We'll figure it out, because this is what we do here.

01:32:20.000 We do it.

01:32:20.000 We're gonna pull up these Super Chats, and they're there.

01:32:22.000 They're back.

01:32:23.000 Alright, let's go!

01:32:26.000 Shaky Owns says, is Steven Marsh's next book titled Canadian Delicacies, 1001 excuses for eating boot leather?

01:32:34.000 That's brutal.

01:32:36.000 Here's my assessment of Steven.

01:32:37.000 I think he's a good dude.

01:32:39.000 The first time we had him on, it was an excellent conversation.

01:32:41.000 I think he and I...

01:32:43.000 Can see the same thing.

01:32:45.000 However, he's coming from the establishment perspective and we're coming from a moderate perspective.

01:32:51.000 And so this is one thing to try bringing up on the show.

01:32:54.000 The Culture War podcast is that.

01:32:57.000 He said something like, there are more seditionists on the right than the left.

01:32:59.000 I said, what's your metric for that?

01:33:00.000 He goes, court cases.

01:33:01.000 And then I said, okay, where are the court cases around 529?

01:33:03.000 He goes, what's that?

01:33:04.000 I'm like, okay, that's my point.

01:33:07.000 If his argument is, it is not that bad that far left extremists were throwing firebombs at the White House, set fire to a church, and they rushed Trump into an emergency bunker, and that doesn't warrant investigations and arrests, it's not insurrection, it's not sedition.

01:33:23.000 Well then, you're coming from a very biased perspective.

01:33:26.000 And I'm not asserting either.

01:33:28.000 I didn't say there was more on the left or the right.

01:33:30.000 I think it may be fair to say there's more on the left, but they're less extreme.

01:33:34.000 And there are very, very few on the right, but they're very extreme.

01:33:37.000 And so, uh...

01:33:38.000 But, so that means his view of what's going on, when he sees, you know, something happening that leads us to civil war, his perspective is skewed by an establishment perspective, whereas I think ours is certainly skewed by an anti-establishment perspective, but, as Phil pointed out with Jonathan Haidt's research, the right knows what the left is thinking, the left does not know what the right is thinking.

01:34:00.000 So, we are a more moderate, probably in many ways right-leaning, For a variety of reasons, basically because the left doesn't come on the show, I think the people on this show are fairly moderate.

01:34:10.000 But that means we have a more holistic view of what's going on and why, and Steven's more biased in that regard.

01:34:15.000 He thinks he's not.

01:34:16.000 I think he is.

01:34:17.000 And then he says we're biased, but it's actually really simple.

01:34:19.000 If he's coming from a left-liberal perspective, we are to the right of him because we're in the middle.

01:34:24.000 And so he doesn't know, you know, that's what I think.

01:34:27.000 But I think he's a good dude.

01:34:28.000 We had a lot of fun.

01:34:28.000 He played poker.

01:34:29.000 He's really good as well.

01:34:30.000 I really like him.

01:34:31.000 At poker.

01:34:31.000 You guys have leftists on here once in a while, right?

01:34:33.000 But they don't come on.

01:34:34.000 Well, you had Max Blumenthal.

01:34:35.000 They do!

01:34:36.000 Yeah, but Max is a good dude.

01:34:37.000 Yeah.

01:34:37.000 Like, many of these leftists... He's a leftist that I like a lot.

01:34:42.000 So, he was honest, and he was, like, impressively honest with his views and his pro-Palestine bias, he said.

01:34:50.000 But he's telling us the truth.

01:34:52.000 He said, like, it's... I get it.

01:34:54.000 I'm like, you're allowed to be in favor of Palestine. 0.95

01:34:57.000 You're allowed to even be in favor of Hamas. 0.52

01:34:59.000 I just don't like that.

01:35:00.000 So be honest about it.

01:35:01.000 So I appreciate these leftists in New York cheering for Hamas. 0.88

01:35:05.000 I appreciate that they're telling me they feel that way.

01:35:07.000 I mean, how many of them are they really cheering for Hamas?

01:35:10.000 In New York, literally.

01:35:12.000 Almost every rally they're cheering for Hamas.

01:35:14.000 I know that there's, again, you know, we talked about this before the show, I know people involved in these rallies and stuff.

01:35:19.000 Explicitly cheering for Hamas.

01:35:20.000 Yeah, but I know there's a lot, I think that might just be being amplified because I know, again, a lot of Jewish anti-war activists.

01:35:27.000 Absolutely, and this means... Organizing these things, leading these things.

01:35:30.000 And that means the people you know organizing things are handing microphones to people to cheer on Hamas.

01:35:35.000 What do you think, like, when you see, like, the leader of Hamas talking about, like, killing all the Jews?

01:35:42.000 What leader of Hamas?

01:35:44.000 The spokesman that was on recently saying that they're going to keep fighting?

01:35:47.000 But that's not even the point.

01:35:48.000 I mean, yeah, that's not the point because... The point I'm making is this.

01:35:51.000 At almost all of these rallies in New York, like Times Square specifically.

01:35:54.000 I'm not talking about like Grand Central, where it's people sitting down.

01:35:57.000 You have a woman get up and say, our freedom fighters paraglided into Israel and fired five thousand... Okay, that's Hamas. 0.64

01:36:07.000 And then you had one guy said, our freedom fighters kidnapped a whole bunch of hipsters.

01:36:11.000 I'm sure they're doing great.

01:36:14.000 But there's so many of these.

01:36:15.000 I don't think there's as many as you think.

01:36:17.000 Again, I think this is being amplified because there's like an internet propaganda war going on.

01:36:22.000 I think that's... I mean, you see the big marches that the people... What does from the river to the sea mean?

01:36:27.000 That means that from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea, Palestinians will have equal rights.

01:36:34.000 That's where that chant came from.

01:36:37.000 I don't believe that.

01:36:38.000 That is like, defund the police doesn't really mean defund the police.

01:36:41.000 It absolutely meant defund the police.

01:36:45.000 So from the River of the Sea, you're saying does not mean the abolition of the Jewish state?

01:36:48.000 It could mean it to some people.

01:36:50.000 If they want one state that's not a Jewish state, that could mean that. 0.98

01:36:54.000 It means different things to different people.

01:36:55.000 I know the Likud founding document says basically from Jordan to the sea, it will be Israeli sovereign territory.

01:37:04.000 But there are Arabs in the Knesset, right?

01:37:08.000 There are Arabs that are in the parliament in Israel.

01:37:13.000 If the Palestinians had control over Israel and it was Palestine, there wouldn't be Jews. 0.99

01:37:20.000 I mean, that's what I don't buy.

01:37:22.000 I and I don't I mean, I understand there's people that are going to say, oh, they wouldn't blah, blah.

01:37:26.000 I don't buy it for a second.

01:37:27.000 And the reason I don't is because there are an if Hamas, right, if the attack on the seventh, if Hamas were like super soldiers, they would have killed everybody. 0.65

01:37:36.000 But they're not.

01:37:37.000 They're not. 1.00

01:37:38.000 But there are enough people that hate all the Jews in in the Middle East to kill all the Jews. 0.99

01:37:45.000 Well, there's like 16 million. 0.99

01:37:47.000 Let's let's slow down.

01:37:48.000 Max brought this up.

01:37:49.000 He said they want to return to their ancestral homeland, right?

01:37:52.000 Okay, so what does that mean?

01:37:54.000 If Israel removes the barriers of Gaza and says everyone is now free to move out the country, what happens?

01:38:00.000 What do I think would happen?

01:38:01.000 If Israel took down all of the fencing around Gaza and said, everyone in Gaza, you are now free to move out the country.

01:38:06.000 Yeah, I mean, I'm not sure what would happen.

01:38:08.000 Would the people that Max said want their ancestral land back try to get it back?

01:38:11.000 I think some people might.

01:38:13.000 Some people?

01:38:14.000 It's a realistic thing.

01:38:15.000 Like, I agree that the kind of the right of return that the people, the Children of refugees in Gaza that want to go back to, you know, their homes that their parents or grandparents were kicked out of is not really a realistic thing.

01:38:27.000 But, I mean, we're talking about a peace deal essentially that wouldn't happen if them just opening the fence and letting them go.

01:38:33.000 I'm not saying that's going to happen.

01:38:34.000 They need to negotiate, you know, a real peace.

01:38:35.000 I get that, but that's not the point.

01:38:36.000 The point is... But the more that this keeps going on and they keep killing children, I mean... But now you're shifting away from what My point is, when protesters say, from the river to the sea, you are giving them the benefit of the doubt when what you're giving them makes literally no sense as to their own arguments.

01:38:49.000 If their argument is a right to return to land, which currently has houses and families living in it, then you would argue that the nicest way to view it is that they will come enter those homes and say, we live here now too.

01:39:02.000 That absolutely will result in violence.

01:39:04.000 Yeah, I mean, the thing is, like, when it comes to a one-state solution, with the things that Israel's doing in the West Bank, right now they're still kicking people out of their homes, especially since things popped off on October 7th.

01:39:16.000 You know, a thousand Palestinians have been kicked out of their houses by settlers.

01:39:20.000 I'm not here- No, I know you're not saying that, but you're talking- I'm talking about leftists- Right now, if they just open it- but leftists, but we're- I'm talking about protests in the United States.

01:39:27.000 Yeah.

01:39:28.000 Where they're either explicitly defending Hamas, because this is what we're talking about.

01:39:31.000 I said, you've got people protesting in support of Hamas.

01:39:34.000 I think that's a very small minority.

01:39:35.000 And then I said, what does River to the Sea mean?

01:39:37.000 Because you have high school students chanting it.

01:39:39.000 And if the argument is, Palestinians will have equal rights, that would mean people in Gaza can freely move about the country, correct?

01:39:46.000 And the right of return is explicitly, they want the land back.

01:39:49.000 Which means, from the River to the Sea, in the nicest interpretation means, mass violence in Israel. 0.53

01:39:56.000 No, it doesn't.

01:39:57.000 How do you get your land back?

01:39:58.000 Are they going to go and file... Well, that's assuming that that's the deal, that, okay, you guys can have your houses back.

01:40:04.000 That's not going to be the deal.

01:40:05.000 They're not just going to let people, okay, you could go now, go, run, you know.

01:40:08.000 So the argument would be that from the river to the sea just literally means they want to try and go to Tel Aviv.

01:40:14.000 It means equal rights.

01:40:15.000 Yeah, they want to go to the beach.

01:40:16.000 That's something kids in the West Bank always say, that they want to go see the beach.

01:40:19.000 They can't go see the beach.

01:40:20.000 They live under military occupation.

01:40:22.000 Their entire life is under control of the Israeli military.

01:40:25.000 And, you know, we talk about what happened on October 7th.

01:40:28.000 You know, there was an attempt at nonviolent protests in 2018 and 2019 called the Great March of Return, where they just walked to the border fence.

01:40:37.000 And some people were throwing rocks and lighting stuff on fire, but mostly... Max didn't mention that.

01:40:41.000 It was an unarmed protest.

01:40:42.000 Max said they started shooting protesters.

01:40:44.000 Yeah, of course.

01:40:45.000 No, but they were shooting protesters.

01:40:47.000 They were shooting unarmed people.

01:40:49.000 They shot somebody in a wheelchair.

01:40:51.000 They shot women, medics, very clearly medics, journalists.

01:40:55.000 They killed hundreds of people.

01:40:57.000 My simple thing for all of this is I literally, as it pertains to American policy, don't care about the moral arguments of war in foreign lands because the argument is we can't adjudicate this for them.

01:41:09.000 We are not the world police.

01:41:10.000 I agree, yeah.

01:41:13.000 Whenever it devolves into like, yeah, but Israel or Gaza, I'm just like, you know what?

01:41:16.000 America's not supposed to be involved. 0.87

01:41:17.000 But you were asking those questions.

01:41:18.000 But I'm not asking the questions about what Israel is doing in the West Bank versus Palestine.

01:41:23.000 I'm asking about Americans here at rallies are protesting in support of Hamas.

01:41:28.000 And you said, I think it's a small group. 0.92

01:41:30.000 My argument is Our government is helping Israel blow up apartment buildings and kill children. 0.97

01:41:39.000 Our government's doing this.

01:41:40.000 You guys are worried about, you know, the war on terror being turned in on the right wing.

01:41:44.000 I mean, this is what the war on terror looks like.

01:41:47.000 Why are you focusing on these college kids chanting this stuff when our government is doing a mass slaughter right now?

01:41:54.000 See, this is my point.

01:41:56.000 This is what it devolves into.

01:41:58.000 My argument is, there are people in the United States who are advocating for extreme... Look, if a pro-Palestine activist comes to me and says, from the river to the sea, and then they're like, we will return to our land, and we will have this back, I go, okay, and they go, help, help, they're killing our kids!

01:42:15.000 I'll be like, Bro, there's a war going on where Hamas just killed a bunch of kids and now Israel's killing more civilians because they're bombing things.

01:42:24.000 But you came out and cheered for it!

01:42:26.000 You can't come to me and cheer for the murder of civilians and then be angry that Israel's killing civilians because I'm like, you guys are in a war and one side has power.

01:42:34.000 It has nothing to do with me.

01:42:36.000 Don't cheer for civilian death and then cry about civilian death later.

01:42:39.000 I don't believe you.

01:42:40.000 I agree with that.

01:42:40.000 I don't think they should cheer civilian death.

01:42:42.000 Again, I do think that's a small minority.

01:42:44.000 And the problem is, the same argument is made by people in support of Israel, where they're like, Israel's not trying to kill civilians, they were attacked and they're retaliating, take out commanders and leaders, and now you're highlighting these civilians?

01:42:56.000 No, no, all civilian deaths are bad.

01:42:58.000 Yeah.

01:42:58.000 So here's where Israel wins the PR war.

01:43:01.000 Oh, one thing I want to mention.

01:43:02.000 So you had Recktenwald on the other day, and he mentioned that there was some evidence that on October 7th and the fighting that happened a few days after IDF killed some Israelis, and he didn't have a citation for that.

01:43:13.000 So that's actually something that Max Blumenthal covered at the Gray Zone, but he cited Israeli media.

01:43:19.000 And again, this is just evidence that some of the civilians might have been killed by the Israeli military.

01:43:24.000 So here's the issue I have with that.

01:43:25.000 Not that he was wrong, it's that if he said, there's been reports, it's possible when the IDF came in, fog of war, they didn't know who was shooting who, and there was friendly fire.

01:43:35.000 I'd say, well, that happens all the time.

01:43:37.000 Of course.

01:43:38.000 He said they were bombing houses and shooting people, but to come out and be like, the IDF was killing their own people and bombing houses!

01:43:46.000 I don't think he said- I mean, I just didn't get that vibe from the way Recktenwald said it, but maybe I'm just biased because I- So here's my view.

01:43:54.000 I am the United States.

01:43:55.000 I don't mean like I am literally there.

01:43:57.000 I mean like me here, I am a U.S.

01:43:59.000 citizen, and I see the Israeli side, the Palestinian side, and I'm like, man, I see civilians dying.

01:44:05.000 This is bad.

01:44:06.000 Two things.

01:44:06.000 First, the left and the pro-Palestinian side has lied about too much.

01:44:11.000 I'm not a historian on Israel-Gaza.

01:44:14.000 They said a hospital was bombed.

01:44:15.000 Lie.

01:44:16.000 They said that a refugee camp was bombed.

01:44:17.000 It wasn't a lie.

01:44:17.000 The hospital wasn't bombed.

01:44:18.000 They said it was decimated.

01:44:22.000 Who said what when that report happened that night?

01:44:25.000 A lot of people said a lot of things.

01:44:25.000 Rashida Tlaib.

01:44:28.000 500 people died and a hospital was decimated.

01:44:30.000 And then the whole conversation was, what could have blown up a hospital?

01:44:33.000 And they were like, oh, it was a parking lot.

01:44:34.000 Yeah.

01:44:35.000 So then the refugee camp.

01:44:37.000 Oh, actually it's not a refugee camp.

01:44:39.000 They are refugees, technically.

01:44:40.000 Oh, right!

01:44:41.000 Technically, but it was actually a city.

01:44:42.000 And there was a lot of civilians there and the IDF admitted it.

01:44:45.000 There's a reason why they... But you're talking about lying.

01:44:47.000 Like, if you're not going to trust them because they lie all the time, the Israeli government also lies all the time.

01:44:51.000 You are correct.

01:44:52.000 And here's the problem.

01:44:53.000 As me, in the United States, I was not a historian.

01:44:56.000 The people on the left in support of Palestine lie about these things.

01:44:59.000 And then I asked the question, is Israel being honest? 0.69

01:45:02.000 You just said Israel admitted to bombing a refugee village.

01:45:05.000 So what Israel is winning in the PR war is they're saying, I'm sorry that this is happening.

01:45:09.000 It's war.

01:45:10.000 It's terrible.

01:45:11.000 Yes.

01:45:11.000 We did this.

01:45:12.000 And I'm like, wow, they admitted it.

01:45:13.000 Then, Israel says, we are desperately trying not to kill civilians.

01:45:16.000 And I say, okay, I hear that.

01:45:17.000 Then, you get people on the pro-Palestine side in New York cheering for the killing of civilians, and then coming out and being like, help, help, they're killing civilians.

01:45:25.000 Hamas is also saying that they didn't mean to kill civilians.

01:45:28.000 So, if you're going to argue that Israel— Hamas is saying that they didn't mean to kill civilians.

01:45:34.000 That's what Israel's saying, and they're slaughtering civilians right now.

01:45:37.000 Look at what's happening there.

01:45:38.000 You did say, Hamas is saying that they did not mean to kill civilians.

01:45:41.000 I'm comparing it to what he said, yeah.

01:45:43.000 Right, but they said it was in the crossbar.

01:45:45.000 Nasrallah, the Hezbollah guy, you know, he's not Hamas, obviously.

01:45:48.000 I don't believe Hamas.

01:45:49.000 Okay, that's fine.

01:45:50.000 But no, no, no, because... You don't have to believe Hamas.

01:45:52.000 I don't believe them either, Phil.

01:45:53.000 Phil, settlers are not civilians.

01:45:55.000 I don't believe them either.

01:45:56.000 That's what they said, right?

01:45:57.000 No, they admitted that civilians were killed.

01:46:00.000 No, no, no, but settlers are not civilians.

01:46:02.000 This is an argument made by a Yale professor to justify the attacks Hamas committed.

01:46:05.000 My point is simply this.

01:46:07.000 I'm not here to tell you who is right or who is wrong.

01:46:09.000 I'm telling you the PR war is being won by Israel because Israel is... I think right now they're losing. 0.73

01:46:14.000 That's only on the internet.

01:46:15.000 I mean, I don't think so.

01:46:17.000 I mean we had, when we were talking to Stephen Marsh earlier, he said you realize the left died this month.

01:46:23.000 Because of what because of Palestine because of because of the activists tearing down the flyers because Or I believe that was the larger insinuation is because of what we're seeing with Like Amy Schumer for instance reposting campus reform like a conservative campus publication We are seeing mainstream celebrities now posting right-wing things and actually saying wow we were wrong about the left I can't believe we were so wrong because of how many people have she like BLM posting the paraglider Yeah, it's stupid. 0.99

01:46:52.000 We definitely gotta go to Super Chat. 0.99

01:46:53.000 Okay, but I would just say, you know, with this we see the same tactics that the left deploys when it comes to Israel.

01:46:58.000 Criticism of Israel is always called anti-semitic.

01:47:00.000 I agree.

01:47:01.000 And, you know, it's their deployment.

01:47:03.000 We haven't called anyone anti-semitic.

01:47:03.000 It's annoying.

01:47:05.000 No, no, but he's right.

01:47:06.000 It's really annoying when they're like, if you're criticizing Israel, you're anti-semitic.

01:47:09.000 No, no, no, no, no, no.

01:47:11.000 If there's a war going on and someone's doing bad things in war, criticize the F out of them.

01:47:15.000 I don't care who they are.

01:47:18.000 I roast the United States all day today about the horrible things the U.S. 0.71

01:47:21.000 It's just that I ain't Israel.

01:47:21.000 does.

01:47:23.000 And that's another thing, if you're hanging with people that say gas the Jews, you probably 0.89

01:47:27.000 should go somewhere else.

01:47:28.000 The reason why I focus on Israel...

01:47:29.000 And I gotta be honest, if you're hanging with people who are saying glass Gaza, you got

01:47:32.000 a problem as well.

01:47:33.000 Yeah.

01:47:34.000 The reason why I focus my criticism on Israel, same thing with Ukraine, is because my government

01:47:37.000 is enabling this, funding this, backing this.

01:47:40.000 Israel probably wouldn't be able to go as hard as they are without the U.S.

01:47:43.000 didn't send all these aircraft carriers to the Middle East.

01:47:45.000 We're completely enabling this, and again, to the people that are being killed, they're being killed by Israel and the United States. 0.89

01:47:52.000 And the U.S.

01:47:53.000 is sending troops on the ground, and we probably already have special forces in Gaza.

01:47:56.000 But let's read more Super Chats, otherwise we're just gonna...

01:47:59.000 All right, David Ray says, you must have J.P.

01:48:01.000 Sears on your show ASAP.

01:48:03.000 Sears is a standing invitation to come on any one of our shows or even just to come here and hang out and have a slice of pizza because we're big fans.

01:48:03.000 J.P.

01:48:09.000 He's awesome.

01:48:11.000 But as I always say, it's you know, like we tried getting Cenk Uygur on the show for a long time and he wouldn't do it.

01:48:17.000 And I'm like, well, he hosts his own show.

01:48:19.000 Come on.

01:48:19.000 He's not going to cancel his show to come here, but he's running for president.

01:48:21.000 So he did.

01:48:22.000 We're happy he did.

01:48:23.000 If J.P.

01:48:24.000 Sears ever has time, Or he's on the East Coast, we'd love to have him.

01:48:27.000 But I'm not surprised people who host shows are too busy to come and be on my show.

01:48:32.000 Typically, people who come to the show do different, are not hosts, and they have day jobs where it's like, oh, I can swing by that night and do the show.

01:48:40.000 But, uh, you know, we'd love to have him.

01:48:41.000 We'd love to have him.

01:48:43.000 Alright.

01:48:44.000 Let's, uh, here we go.

01:48:46.000 Dalamar says, Forkliftgate is real.

01:48:48.000 Texas sued and got a temporary injunction against the US government to stop messing with the wire.

01:48:52.000 The forklift was part of the case.

01:48:54.000 Wow.

01:48:55.000 Was it a forklift?

01:48:56.000 I think it was a backloader, though.

01:48:57.000 It wasn't a forklift, right?

01:48:58.000 It looked like a back-end loader.

01:48:59.000 Yeah.

01:49:00.000 Yeah, no, a forklift.

01:49:02.000 It's funny because nobody knows what they're called, and I googled it like a week ago.

01:49:06.000 Because I'm like, what do we call those things?

01:49:09.000 They're not cranes.

01:49:10.000 Yeah, well, back-end loader.

01:49:12.000 It's a backhoe.

01:49:12.000 Right, exactly.

01:49:14.000 Yeah, backhoe, back-end loader.

01:49:15.000 A backhoe, right.

01:49:15.000 My kid's learning.

01:49:16.000 My two-year-old knows all the construction vehicles, like all the kid shows on YouTube.

01:49:21.000 It's like all tractors and stuff.

01:49:22.000 Check out Open Source Ecology.

01:49:22.000 It's kind of cool.

01:49:24.000 Build your own.

01:49:25.000 Yeah, shout out to Marcin Jakubowski.

01:49:25.000 Yeah.

01:49:27.000 All right, let's go.

01:49:29.000 Frag Null says, TimCast2024, and yeah, my payday is your payday, woo woo.

01:49:34.000 I want good silicon, so Taiwan, Silicon Forges is good to protect. 1.00

01:49:38.000 Talk amongst yourself.

01:49:39.000 No, no Bolton, the mustache.

01:49:44.000 We have an eclectic bunch of Timcats, I'm very proud of that.

01:49:46.000 I'm particularly proud of the fact that Ilad and Cassandra are friends, and boy are they on the other sides of the political spectrum.

01:49:56.000 Ilad is our resident Bolton bro, neocon, he calls himself this.

01:49:59.000 Bolton bro.

01:50:01.000 Yeah, but when he interviews the protesters, he's very fair, he just asks them a question, lets them answer, he doesn't insert anything, he does a good job.

01:50:07.000 And then Cassandra is as anti-war and as isolationist as you can be, and hates Israel.

01:50:13.000 Yeah.

01:50:13.000 She's hardcore.

01:50:15.000 I mean, it's great.

01:50:16.000 I think the diversity of thought is really good to have.

01:50:19.000 Yeah, this company is not made upon the ideological goals of, like, a military operation or a single news event.

01:50:31.000 It is simply... I mean, I gotta be honest.

01:50:34.000 What Cassandra and Elad represent is quite literally the ideological goal of one of the

01:50:38.000 ideological goals of me and this company is that people are allowed to have different opinions

01:50:43.000 and discuss those opinions and be mad at each other, but we all live together and we get along.

01:50:46.000 So actually they're exemplifying what I think is important in this country that we

01:50:51.000 maintain the ability for dissent.

01:50:54.000 It used to be a lot more common.

01:50:55.000 I know. So I disagree with Cassandra on a lot of things.

01:50:59.000 And, uh, you know, I've talked to her about it, but I'm like, dude, I'm not gonna stop being friends with someone because of our opinions on a foreign war. 0.66

01:51:05.000 I mean, that's the craziest thing ever.

01:51:06.000 It's funny, people were, like, in the tweets of people who'd be like, like, you know, don't go on TimCast anymore because Cassandra's opinions, and I'm like, oh, okay, dude.

01:51:13.000 Like...

01:51:15.000 People are tagging you in her tweets.

01:51:18.000 I know, I know, I love it.

01:51:19.000 Bro, I just want to stress, I've known Cassandra for a decade, she's one of my best friends.

01:51:25.000 Her opinion on war in a foreign land is not going to affect our friendship, and I'm not going to fire her over that.

01:51:31.000 It's like one thing.

01:51:34.000 It's a big thing, it's foreign policy.

01:51:37.000 And people are allowed to have opinions.

01:51:38.000 Same thing with Ilad.

01:51:40.000 I yelled at him.

01:51:42.000 We got into a yelling match because we were arguing about war and he was for war, saying he wasn't for war.

01:51:48.000 He's like, I don't want war, but we must win it.

01:51:50.000 And I'm like, we got into it heavy on one of the members only segments.

01:51:54.000 And I'm like, I apologize after I'm like, I'm sorry I got so heated, but I'm glad we can have that.

01:51:58.000 That's what it's all about.

01:52:00.000 All right, let's read some more.

01:52:03.000 All right.

01:52:03.000 Paul Fongham says, Tim, to have the people better understand China, please have people from the YouTube channel China Uncensored on.

01:52:09.000 You see, I was mentioning we get these messages all the time.

01:52:11.000 Yeah.

01:52:12.000 Oh, absolutely.

01:52:12.000 Absolutely.

01:52:13.000 I'll just say, you know, Cassandra, let's let's have China Uncensored on.

01:52:16.000 David Zhang, Laowai86, and also SerpentZA.

01:52:22.000 Speaking of China, my friend Joseph Solis Mullen, he writes at the Libertarian Institute, he just put out a book about China called The Fake China Threat, kind of trying to go against some of the war propaganda, so go check that out.

01:52:33.000 Are you familiar with Thucydides Trap?

01:52:35.000 Yes.

01:52:36.000 So that's the general, I wouldn't call it the layman's understanding because it's a little bit more esoteric, but the simple idea is the minutiae doesn't matter, what matters is we are facing a rising economic threat to the United States, the United States is not going to tolerate that.

01:52:50.000 Yeah.

01:52:50.000 And, you know, but we do have a choice.

01:52:54.000 I mean, I prefer the Trumpian... But another thing about this book, sorry, that Solis Mullen gets into, you know, he's a libertarian, it's from kind of a more right-wing perspective, is about the trouble that China has economically.

01:53:07.000 And one of the best arguments in the book is if you look at China's backyard, they have a big border with India, Japan.

01:53:14.000 I mean, these are big countries that don't want China to expand in the region.

01:53:19.000 Um, so they have a lot to deal with in their own neighborhood, so there's a lot of reasons just not to be so afraid of China, and that's what he lays out in the book pretty well.

01:53:26.000 The Lion says, a culture war episode with Laue86 and SerpentZA would be pretty dope.

01:53:32.000 Yes!

01:53:32.000 Uh, you wanna, you wanna, you wanna message Lisa?

01:53:35.000 Uh, yes!

01:53:36.000 I got it sorted out.

01:53:37.000 That'd be sweet, I'd like to see them as well.

01:53:38.000 That'd be really cool.

01:53:39.000 I think, I think next week, we might be doing a debate on Israel.

01:53:42.000 Yes, Scott.

01:53:43.000 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

01:53:44.000 I'm excited.

01:53:45.000 And I believe it's Scott and Will Chamberlain.

01:53:48.000 We normally don't announce, but it's like these are friends of the show.

01:53:51.000 Scott Horton and Will Chamberlain, they were going at it on Twitter on X.

01:53:55.000 But it's funny because like, you know, I talk about how people have Israel derangement syndrome.

01:54:00.000 And I don't mean just against, I mean for or against it.

01:54:05.000 It's hyper-polarized, it's always one super-extreme or the other.

01:54:09.000 And people are like, stop talking about it.

01:54:11.000 I'm like, right now, the big news and the threat in the Middle Eastern region is over Israel. 0.89

01:54:15.000 We're going to talk about it.

01:54:16.000 And it's just a conversation you don't rush, which is part of why the last 15 minutes where you guys were talking seemed so frenetic.

01:54:23.000 Really, it's a long, observant conversation.

01:54:25.000 I would recommend to people, you guys know Daryl Cooper?

01:54:28.000 Negative.

01:54:29.000 Martyr Maid podcast?

01:54:30.000 Yeah.

01:54:31.000 He has like a 26-hour series, it's called Fear and Loathing in New Jerusalem, and it is excellent.

01:54:35.000 not East Jerusalem, New Jerusalem and it is excellent.

01:54:39.000 You should get him on to talk about Israel.

01:54:43.000 I mean, he's really good.

01:54:44.000 Very serious.

01:54:45.000 When I was in Tel Aviv, whenever I would walk out of my hotel,

01:54:48.000 there was a like four foot tall tree stump, like I guess you'd call it a stump, the tree was cut down.

01:54:53.000 And there was this cat just sitting on it every time just staring at me as I walked out.

01:54:57.000 And I'm like, what is this cat?

01:54:59.000 This strange omen.

01:55:00.000 When I was in Jordan, I stayed in Amman for a few weeks.

01:55:03.000 Cat was cool.

01:55:03.000 There was a little red cat that stayed outside my door, and I fed, like, everybody that stayed in the place, like, fed him.

01:55:08.000 There's turds everywhere, they love turds. 0.98

01:55:10.000 During the elections in Turkey, this was back in, I think, like, 2014, I was in Istanbul, We were going around different precincts because there was concern over election fraud and crazy stuff was going on.

01:55:21.000 And this street dog decided to become friends with us and come with us everywhere we went.

01:55:26.000 I called him Herman because Herman is the name I give to any animal at any point because it's just like a generic name.

01:55:30.000 Like, you're Herman now!

01:55:31.000 And I got a picture of him.

01:55:34.000 I love Turkey, man.

01:55:34.000 Istanbul is so fun.

01:55:36.000 But like, the dog basically adopted us.

01:55:39.000 And we were like, we got a dog now.

01:55:40.000 And he just walked with us everywhere we went.

01:55:42.000 And we would leave and he would run and walk with us.

01:55:44.000 We didn't give him anything.

01:55:45.000 He just hung out.

01:55:46.000 It was pretty cool.

01:55:47.000 All right, here we go.

01:55:48.000 J.D.

01:55:48.000 says, the horseshoe crab's blood is drawn while alive and on board the vessel that caught it.

01:55:53.000 The crab is then released alive back into the ocean.

01:55:56.000 The blood is studied by universities and they pay pretty good to utilize U.S.

01:56:00.000 commercial lobstermen to get it. 0.99

01:56:02.000 I just want to stress, imagine you and your buddies are hanging out like outside the bar when a UFO appears over you and beams you up.

01:56:10.000 And then you're, like, strapped to the thing going, like, what's happening?

01:56:12.000 And they plug a thing and suck your blood out. 0.80

01:56:14.000 You're like, help me!

01:56:15.000 And then they drop you back down and you're like, I swear, I swear. 0.99

01:56:17.000 And they're like, shut up. 0.55

01:56:19.000 That didn't happen. 0.98

01:56:20.000 We're literally abducting crabs and stealing their blood.

01:56:22.000 That is exactly what's happening.

01:56:24.000 Abducting crabs.

01:56:25.000 The crabs, like, a big silver thing above us came and it pulled me in and they're like, get out of here, crab dude. 0.97

01:56:31.000 You're crazy.

01:56:32.000 I wonder what would cause that because I would go down to like this little harbor that was by my house on Long Island and sometimes there would just be like, there's the whole beach covered in dead horseshoe crabs. 0.94

01:56:41.000 Jeez.

01:56:43.000 All right, all right.

01:56:44.000 David Molinarolo says, Tim, quote, supporting Ukraine is pro-war.

01:56:50.000 Also, Tim, we should invade Canada.

01:56:52.000 Brilliant.

01:56:53.000 I am joking about the Canada invasion thing.

01:56:56.000 I'm not.

01:56:56.000 It's the cultural invasion, like the British invasion of the Beatles and all that.

01:57:00.000 I am serious about invading Alaska because it's ours already.

01:57:03.000 And we have a lot of resources there that we could stop worrying about China, rare earths, and these things if we just go to Alaska.

01:57:12.000 And they won't do it.

01:57:13.000 They won't do it.

01:57:14.000 That's the truth.

01:57:16.000 And we could, developing Alaska would be fantastic.

01:57:18.000 Alaskans, we had a bunch of people, messages saying they'd love it because it would help expand industry and, you know, build things and boost the economy.

01:57:25.000 It's good stuff.

01:57:26.000 They got good stuff.

01:57:27.000 Alaska's very big.

01:57:29.000 Is Alaska the biggest state?

01:57:30.000 Yes.

01:57:30.000 Yeah, it is, right?

01:57:31.000 It's like half the size of the country or something like that?

01:57:33.000 I think it's a third of the mass of the lower 48.

01:57:36.000 That's crazy.

01:57:38.000 That's crazy, man.

01:57:40.000 Alaska is based AF.

01:57:42.000 Deus Flex says, reminded that the Barbary Wars was the only reason Thomas Jefferson purchased a Quran and Ilhan Omar used it to swear herself into office.

01:57:51.000 Yep.

01:57:52.000 Oh, jeez!

01:57:53.000 That's what I'm talking about.

01:57:54.000 Know thine enemy, man.

01:57:55.000 If you're afraid of something, investigate it.

01:57:58.000 She used his Quran?

01:58:00.000 Is that what it was?

01:58:01.000 Wow!

01:58:02.000 If you're gonna use a Quran, that's a good one to use. 1.00

01:58:04.000 But, like, the reason it exists is not for the reason it is presumed when she puts her hand on it, you know what I mean?

01:58:10.000 Like, it's like, oh wow, he had a Quran, he was studying, like, I will swear it was more so, like, he was studying because they were enemies. 0.99

01:58:18.000 Yep.

01:58:19.000 Like, yeah, the guy's like, hey, you're an infidel, my book says I can do this, and he goes, for real? 1.00

01:58:22.000 Let me see that!

01:58:23.000 Like, I'm gonna look at this!

01:58:25.000 For real, for real, no cap?

01:58:27.000 No cap!

01:58:28.000 That's exactly what Thomas Jefferson said!

01:58:32.000 Okay, let's grab another one.

01:58:34.000 Gwadlook says there's a $6,000 Holo Charizard at the card shop near me.

01:58:38.000 $6,000?

01:58:39.000 Wow.

01:58:40.000 Yeah, there's a viral video right now of a guy opening a Charizard, and it's $250,000 or something.

01:58:45.000 I don't know exactly.

01:58:46.000 $250,000?

01:58:46.000 Yeah.

01:58:47.000 I mean, a Black Lotus is worth more.

01:58:49.000 Some of those new Pokemon cards are going for a lot of money, man.

01:58:52.000 New ones?

01:58:53.000 Well, not new ones, but... Here's a trick.

01:58:55.000 With Magic the Gathering, When a new set comes out, there's usually some cards that are worth 50 bucks right away.

01:59:02.000 Instantly.

01:59:03.000 Because you'll need them for the top, they're called net decks.

01:59:08.000 And so, when you're playing competitively in the standard format, where it's like, I don't know how they're doing it these days, five, the last five sets or something.

01:59:18.000 So, a card will come out, it'll be called like Ian the Great.

01:59:23.000 And it just came out, They're all over the place, but everybody who wants to

01:59:28.000 build the top tier deck for competition needs it, so the demand is ridiculously high right away.

01:59:34.000 Usually what ends up happening is, or I should say in certain circumstances, this happened

01:59:38.000 at least once to me, you can buy a box of boosters for $150 and you're almost gonna

01:59:46.000 get one or two, and so the combined value of all the cards you pull will be greater

01:59:50.000 than the cost of the box itself.

01:59:52.000 It's because the average person does not want to spend a hundred bucks on a bunch of random cards.

01:59:56.000 They want the one single card, so they pay a premium just to get it, and that means you can buy a bunch of boxes, crack them all open, and turn a profit.

02:00:04.000 And card shops do that.

02:00:05.000 That's what they do.

02:00:06.000 They open boxes and put them on display.

02:00:07.000 When I was a kid, my friend's parents did that.

02:00:09.000 They just bought all the Pokemon cards and would sell the expensive ones and then give us the... Ha!

02:00:13.000 The scraps.

02:00:14.000 Yeah.

02:00:16.000 Alright, let's grab one last one.

02:00:17.000 KCB says, The right wing has become tolerant and weak.

02:00:21.000 We are being socially engineered to revert back to being patriotic though, through ever increasing oppression.

02:00:26.000 Recruiting is way down and the military needs patriots.

02:00:30.000 The interesting thing is when we were talking with Stephen Marsh earlier, he mentioned, you know, in his book, The Last Election, like, that it always comes down to what the military decides to do.

02:00:40.000 And I think that's a really interesting point.

02:00:42.000 If people are resigning their commissions because of wokeness, and the military is overly woke, I think it's fair to say we know what direction the military would go in the event of civil conflict.

02:00:50.000 There's part of me that thinks that the reason the upper echelon, the brass, if you will, in the military are woke is because when you get to the higher ranks, definitely generals, it becomes political.

02:01:03.000 So I don't know that I believe that they actually believe in the woke stuff so much as know that You know, know the things that they have to say and the positions that they have to hold if they're going to achieve another, you know, another, if you're going to get another star.

02:01:19.000 If you got one star and you want a second one, you want to get another, you know, another, uh, you want to get another commission or get a command or whatever, you have to be able to, you have to say the right things and have the right opinions.

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Timcast IRL - Tim Pool - November 03, 2023

Timcast IRL - Biden REJECTS Border Meeting As TERRORIST RELEASED By CBP w- Dave DeCamp

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